Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I just read about this. Apparently some kind of streaming iTunes looking service with rights to all the majors cleared. Could be interesting? If nothing else just to see it fail miserably...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

trying this now. blatant rip of itunes design-wise but looks better in many ways. all i really want to do with it is listen to whole albums easily and it seems to let you do that very well (i haven't heard the ads yet tho).

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

20 second xbox ad came in after 5 songs. not bad really.

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

needs last.fm support asap

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 13:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

for Windows maybe!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

i am so in love with this thing <3

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

wtf 2 adverts in a row (the 2nd was for that White Lies album)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

See what I mean about them? The Killers meet Editors big wowz!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

can i get a spotify invite

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

― kaiser, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

can i get a spotify invite

― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

Have any of you actually tried the link posted? Quite a few of my friends in the UK have used the link and joined today. Maybe it doesn't work in other countries...

\o.0/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm in the US and that link asks for one of two things:

1)an invite code

or

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I wonder what their excuse is. Don't they want more people to hear their stupid ads?

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

is it UK only?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

mr bimble check your email

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm in the US and unless something changed in the last few days, we can't use spotify and all the workarounds have been blocked

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I selected this a couple of weeks ago, and got an invite from them within the same day. May not be the case now, of course.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/ gets you straight in without an invite.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 07:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I went in on that link above, no trouble at all. I'm in the UK tho - maybe there's a problem with the US, I dunno.

It's awesome, btw. Nearest thing to the "universal jukebox" I've seen for a long time.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 08:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think it's staggering. At least 95% of my track/artist searches to date have returned results. And I like the concept of shared playlists.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify Premium is available in Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Spain and the UK. The Free version is only available in Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France and Spain.

It amuses me to see the adverts briefly appear in last.fm (and permanently in your Spotify history).

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is impressive. There's a lot more weird, small stuff on than I thought there would be, thopugh also mystifying gaps too.

Someone should set up a shared ILX playlist for Jan (then we can move to Feb etc to stop it getting unwieldy). I'll do it tonight if no-one else does.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. I was thinking of doing one for the Pazz & Jop Top 50 singles, and maybe the Rocktimists poll tracks as well. But it'll have to wait until tonight.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gaps spotted so far: no King Crimson, very little UK Funky, no Aeroplane mix of Grace Jones "Williams Blood" (although their mix of Friendly Fires "Paris" is on there). Remixes are generally well represented, though.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Remixes are generally well represented, though.

But not always listed as remixes, I've found. And they don't scrobble as remixes (sorry, I'll take that to the last.fm thread)

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

I also like the non-bloatiness: the software was running at around 14,000k on my home PC last night - so I could close iTunes for once, and benefit from the faster performance.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope this thing a) goes global so the US can use it b) they make a mobile/iphone app c) ushers in a new era of music use.

I confidently predict big 4 will put a stop to it.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

All the majors have signed up in europe, though. I suppose it's whether the US ones are far-sighted enough.

It's also notable that most of the big digital music holdout bands aren't represented- no Beatles, Metallica, AC/DC.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Every Stones album is there though, yay!

Another thing I've noticed is that the service avoids any queueing problems, as you occasionally get on, say, last.fm.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Last.fm is screwed unless they can come up with something as wide ranging as this.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 10:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

The DJ Khaled selection is spotty and Denim aren't on there either.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on. If you pick someone like The Sweet it takes about 5 mins to scroll through them all.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

How on earth are they going to make any money out of this model? I can only imagine that once they've got a critical mass of people using it, they're going to radically increase the amount of advertising.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

That and premium subs I guess.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

At the moment, the advertising is pretty unobtrusive so I can't see why anyone would want to be a paying subscriber. Which is why I'm guessing they'll up the advertising once they get enough people hooked.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Indeed, at the moment the advertising is infrequent enough not to annoy but I'm sur it'll increase in frequency. Service is good but not quite thorough enough, some bizarre gaps in artist's discographies e.g most of Sparks 70's output and their most recent work but little from the 80s/90s. Once they can plug those gaps, get on board the digital refuseniks and most importantly provide a mobile service then £10 a month would be very tempting.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Getting enough people hooked should mean they don't have to up the advertising - advertisers will simply pay more for a bigger audience.

Maybe if they get enough people hooked they'll be able to offer ad-free for £4.99 instead of £9.99.

I wonder how much artists are paid through this. We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on

So true - the other night I found myself marvelling at how many "a tribute to" albums Sigue Sigue Sputnik have appeared on (from memory: NiN, Soft Cell, Smashing Pumpkins, Madonna, KMFDM, Prince...) - who keeps asking them?

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

Or those bands could just set up a computer with their songs on repeat!

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 13:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how much artists are paid through this

Maybe, John D could answer. Hopefully I made him a few cents when I listened to 'Palmcorder Yajna' earlier this week.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well last.fm's royalty rate is $0.0005 per play, and presumably something similar in Europe too.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

So a million plays required for a measly $500? I don't think mobilising the ILM masses will be enough to get J0hn D that rockstar mansion.

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think that the artist would get much from each play but $0.0005 is shockingly low.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

My guess is that record company gets half a cent and the artist get 10%.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's a collaborative ILX playlist. just click on the link to get it going. I've called it ILX Feb 09 coz January is nearly over. Have at it.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's the Pazz & Jop Top 100 singles list. Only 10 tracks are missing.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

both those links give me "playlist not found" ;_;

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

Me too any chance of a re-up?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've just re-checked, and both links are valid; indeed, I picked up Patrick's ILX playlist earlier today and added to it, and someone else has added to it since.

You have already got Spotify installed, yes?

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

no King Crimson

Eh? The first album I listened to on it was In The Court of the Crimson King!

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

x-post yeah all that's fine, it says "playlist not found" when the link prompts the software. Ah well.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeh, I tried the Pazz and Job playlist just there and got "Playlist not found", too. (And, er, yes: I think most of us posting on the Spotify thread about how we use Spotify etc have got Spotify installed ;)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Er, Jop. Obviously.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost Just re-checked, and there's still no King Crimson. The nearest you get is "The Court of the Crimson King" by 21st Century Schizoid Band.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Whit? Hang on ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Try this in the Spotify search window?

spotify:user:miketd:playlist:2zYHbXxldh3YIti4SM3doz

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

And also this:

spotify:user:raw_patrick:playlist:5QqAXZcbQtPFL0w1ShUiem

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

... fuck me, yes. It's all gone. But there is still a ghost page for them -- put in King Crimson and you'll see their name comes up in the little cluster of artists at the top left. Click and you get a pic and a biog but absolutely no tracks.

That's a fucker, because there was a tonne of their stuff up the other week. I thought I'd seen some other stuff disappear, too -- can't remember what, but I just put it down to not having paid attention. But no, some bands are obviously being taken down. Wow.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ah bollox, that wasn't the P&J playlist - try this one instead:

spotify:user:miketd:playlist:2tpQvA2ojTVgOLr6fozpFh

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hang on: Mike, are you a subscriber?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

... 'cos I can't get any of these shared playlists going. It's either a subscriber thing or a Mac thing, I reckon ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

can you (mike or grimly) see
http://open.spotify.com/user/ledge/playlist/1KqRMynsECGZ0Q4JTJ0sHJ

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes: I can, Ledge. You Mac or PC?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

pc.

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes, I can see that one, Ledge.
I'm not a subscriber - I'm on the free version.
And I'm PC.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

Works on my PC too.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

can't see yours, grimly.

itsamystery.gif

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can someone try mine again now? I've just thought of something ...

xpost ... ah! Got it. Two seconds, Ledge ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Right. Ledge: can you try again now?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Grimly, I get "playlist not found" on yours. Weird.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Try again now, Mike ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

nope. i mean, nope still can't see it

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

what did you try?

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

Oh, OK. That's fucking weird, and puts paid to my incredibly simplistic theory, which was: it works when the sharer has Spotify running, and not when they don't.

Hmm.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

Still get "playlist not found".

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've just changed the Pazz & Jop list to "collaborative". Does that make a difference?

http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/2tpQvA2ojTVgOLr6fozpFh

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify removing good stuff? Oh well fuck spotify then.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

Nope: I get "playlist not found" for that link too, Mike.

Curiouser and curiouser: having deleted my own shared playlist, if I click the link, it recreates the fucking thing! This is absolutely fucked-up.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

nope. i thought about that but i managed to get the freakytrigger/popular 1950s playlist which ain't collaborative. xxp.

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well, it IS beta. Can everybody get the FT playlist?

http://open.spotify.com/user/freakytrigger/playlist/2u5G9BcsC34s65XnksFnea

Grimly: nope, not found.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

ditto.

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can everybody get the FT playlist?

Nope. Hmmm! I wonder how this actually works (or, er, doesn't) at the Spotify end?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ledge: I just tried yours again, which worked before, and it now says "not found". Have you deleted it, or is this further evidence for the fact it's all a bit buggered?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

A friend in Amsterdam picked this one up fine yesterday:

http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/2zYHbXxldh3YIti4SM3doz

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

my test one is still there. there are a couple of questions about this on the support forums, unanswered; if we 'vote' for the questions they might get some attention.

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/playlist_not_found_when_loading_someone_elses_playlist?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_spotify

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/why_dont_friends_playlist_links_work?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_spotify

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

no joy with amsterdam one. it's fucked, is my diagnosis.

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeh, that's barking: the only one I've ever got working was your test one, Ledge, but now that doesn't work either.

Had a further Google and there seems to be a lot of this about. There's also an entire site devoted to Spotify lists (go on, have a guess at the URL), none of which I can get to work. Aye, I'll have a look at the support forums.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

Right. I've done my bit to raise awareness of this terrible scourge. I'm off to do something more useful instead :)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

suckify

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

ok waiting three hours and/or restarting got me the playlists.

talk me down off the (ledge), Saturday, 24 January 2009 23:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

hurrah!

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 23:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

I have been able to get all of the linked playlists

on free spotify, on a mac

cozwn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Me too.

Stevie T, Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

I can get them all to work too.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

yes me too but ima homegrown so that s probably it

and ive listened to tons of king crimson on spotify?

sonderangerbot, Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

I can open the playlists ok in IE7 but when I try to open them in Firefox I get 'Invalid option:spotify:user:.....', any ideas, google isn't my friend when it comes to this.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

I find the most reliable method is to copy the links and paste them in the spotify search box and hit return.

onimo, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

can someone please send me an invite?

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

Are you UK? If so go here, no invite needed:

http://www.spotify.com/en/get-started

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

nope. Greece.

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/invitation/cJFKjAsTazyHdXWG

cozwn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

curses! spotify free is not available in your country. oh well. thanks anyway, guys.

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

spotify videogames playlist

cozwn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

awesome

cozwn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

no saria's song, no credibility

cozwn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

20 (of the 25) country #1's of 2008

Joris Stereo, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Loving the ILX collaborative playlist...

mike t-diva, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

This works perfectly for me now. Wonderful! Am too busy weeping (once again) at the eternal fucking shitness of Microsoft Excel to explore it much further, mind. Hurrah, though.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

I added that ghost cauldron track : D

who put up the letta mbulu? was really feeling that earlier

cozwn, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Letta Mbulu was one of mine.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.

this is starting to piss me off too. on the pazz & jop playlist above for instance the gaslight anthem track is an acoustic version and pink's so what is some hi-nrg dance remix. don't think the compiler intended it that way. i keep coming across stuff in live versions (biz markie's just a friend) or sixties tracks that sound that they were rerecorded by one or more of their original members somewhere in the eighties (the bobby fuller four's i fought the law).

Joris Stereo, Sunday, 25 January 2009 21:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

How can you add to it?

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

spotify videogames playlist

omfg

talk me down off the (ledge), Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've corrected the Pink. There's no other version of the Gaslight Anthem track, though...

mike t-diva, Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is amazing. AMAZING. Although I will now only be buying records that aren't on it, so business-model-wise maybe not the best idea.

I can see the playlists - how would one add to one if one wanted too?

Jamie T Smith, Monday, 26 January 2009 12:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

If it's a collaborative playlist (like the ILX one above) just drag and drop the track onto it.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Monday, 26 January 2009 12:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

loving this. wishing it included videos and more better data tho.

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 13:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

would be cool if you could see who added what to playlists too, and maybe a SUGGEST BAN system...

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 13:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Top of my wishlist: a recommendation engine; social networking features.

I quite like being able to add stuff anonymously to the ILX playlist. It removes the pressure to impress.

mike t-diva, Monday, 26 January 2009 13:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Two adverts in one album so far, and both for something called the Energy Saving Trust, so can't complain, really. I like that there is a little graphic showing you how much of the ad is left, so you could mute the ads quite easily.

Jamie T Smith, Monday, 26 January 2009 13:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Some sort of friends list where you can access all their playlists (or ones they choose to share) seems like a no-brainer for them to add. And that's just for starters.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Monday, 26 January 2009 13:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

If, like me, you tend to hop around tracks before they've finished you never hear an advert.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Monday, 26 January 2009 13:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Love the Sir John Betjeman track someone added. Didn't even realise he recorded an album, will check out the rest later.

Billy Dods, Monday, 26 January 2009 14:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Looks like King Crimson were removed on request: http://www.dgmlive.com/forum.htm?entry=13308

Same goes for KC on YouTube: http://www.dgmlive.com/forum.htm

mike t-diva, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

I suspect that Spotify didn't just randomly upload KC material without permission. I would guess they asked Universal or Warner's or whowever can we upload your companies back catalogue and they said sure, then individual artists got wind of it and complained.

Billy Dods, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Luddites.

talk me down off the (ledge), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Top of my wishlist: a recommendation engine; social networking features.

I quite like the fact that there aren't social networking features, but I'm sure they'll appear soon.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wish I knew how vinyl only straight-up unauthorised re-edit stuff like this ended up on there.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

The-Dream is listed as D:Ream *roll eyes*

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

Things can only get better.

Charles Bronson (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, def needs better data, an equalizer and a suggest ban system

cozwn, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

suggest ban any song you hear and dislike

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

def. finding this is perfect music you want to listen to but don't want to clutter up a harddrive w/. whole bob dylan back catalogue, all the wu-tang my ears can eat? yes pls

cozwn, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

i like this.
however, on villalobos : fizheuer zieheuer (part 2), there is vinyl noise.
i've never heard the cd version so could it be that the original has crackles etc ?

mark e, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 15:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

See link posted above - some of this stuff is being sourced from vinyl rips.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 16:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

i saw that after i posted, sorry mike.
tis a great application though.
i really hope this is legit, makes people money, and doesn't get shut down.
the catalogue is bursting with stuff i enjoy.

mark e, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 16:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Pitchfork 500: #1 - 1977-1979.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

am I missing something here?

catalouge seems very bitty to me so far or maybe it's just what I'm searching for...

Is this the kind of thing where I'm better searching for other peoples playlists? or it's meant to be like last.fm with full tracks?

fandango, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

hmm, it's probably because I used a UK invite isn't it? No Kompakt, no Melt-Banana.. not much of anything so far to be honest so not really much use

fandango, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

(anyone got a US invite? :( )

fandango, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh wait shi-

I searched for kompakt the other day and it returned loads of results... today I get 2?!

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

five hits for superpitcher now, when there were tons (30?) the other day

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

All the Gescom's disappeared.

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

And all the Autechre! ffs.

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

But the one I put on a playlist still plays...

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thomas Brinkmann is gone, too.

no-nonsense, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh well

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah the development here isn't very promising.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Fucking hell, you're not wrong. This is moving in completely the wrong direction.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

I suspect they're probably taking down loads of stuff, possibly because the original sources were private collections and now they're having to clean up their act and get proper permissions. A year ago, when the site was a tiny Sweden-only start-up, they even had Beatles stuff on there.

However, it's inconsistent. I noticed yesterday that if you follow the "Home" link and view the "most popular" lists, Coldplay's "Viva La Vida" (both the track and the album) were displayed in red, meaning "no longer available" - and if you clicked the link, a message came up saying "not available in the UK". However, you could still search for "coldplay viva la vida" and play the results just fine. (Can't check this out now, as the s/w isn't installed on this machine.)

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also, d'you suppose that they've negotiated reprint rights with AMG for the biog blurbs?

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

On the evidence so far, I very much doubt it.

Still, this answers the question lots of people have been asking me when I've been bunging them invites: "How does the business/rights model work?" Answer: badly.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

my gut instinct is that they've taken them off the search, as a preliminary measure, before taking the tracks out of the database entirely

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Judging by the recent developments I imagine open source, P2P alternative in 5…4…3…2…

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Availability certainly varies by country; my friend in Amsterdam found that about 50% of my "best of 2008" playlist was unavailable in the NL.

Perhaps they've signed agreements with the majors, but haven't sorted things out with a lot of the independents?

NB - some of the Spotify service already relies on P2P protocols, and I recall reading that one of the lead developers was previously working on Torrent services.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/why_do_songs_disapear

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

No Kompakt

kompakt total 6 is still there. you just can't find it with their search engine...

Joris Stereo, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

That response is from three months ago. I assume the songs disappearing this week are for different reasons.

onimo, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Eh? No, I assume it's all part of the process of them updating their catalogue with "more" music and "adding" songs. Now, to me it looks suspiciously like that should be "less" and "removing", but hey! I'm not a thrusting young web 2.2b chancer, so what the fuck do I know?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Smiths have vanished... ah, I knew it was all too good to be true!

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 13:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

muxtape mk. viii

mark e, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 13:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Muxtape is relaunching as some kinda minimal MySpace.

Architect of the Geocities (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes, and Spotify is relaunching as some kinda minimal Spotify.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

I retract my AMAZING, although it's still pretty good.

It also can't play albums as a continuous mix, which is terrible. I suppose it took itunes till version 7 or something to do that, but my CD player from 1991 has no trouble.

Aghrr Lady Gaga advert! Bring back the Energy Savings Trust.

Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Energy Savings Trust ad, featuring the dulcet tones of Hugh Dennis.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

the whole villalobos archive has now gone :(
was my easiest/best/quickest/cheapest way to catch up on the mans history.
oh well, i'm going to listen to sinatra at the sands instead.

mark e, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is pretty cool - runs perfectly in Wine on Linux!

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

RIP

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

One page article on Spotify ion the NME today.

Architect of the Geocities (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

in

Architect of the Geocities (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify has managed to go downhill in the space of a week.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

What's with all the cupcake icons on that (mostly) Metallica thread?

Glow In The Dark (Bimble), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Real shame about the paring down of the catalogue.

Here's a source of more playlists, if you're hungry:

http://www.spotyshare.com/

Alba, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

In hindsight it would have been better to remove this in October when we launched publicly

Er, yes.

, we realize this now and apologize to you for not doing it sooner

<Non-committal, graceless noise>

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

There's actually adverts for Spotify on Spotify now!

Architect of the Geocities (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

energy saving trust issued a takedown notice

cozwn, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Energy Savings Trust ad, featuring the dulcet tones of Hugh Dennis.

I thought it was posh, blonde fop Julian Rhind-Tutt doing the voiceover. Ironic, bearing in mind how badly he did on 'It's Not Easy Being Green'.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Guardian Tech article about Spotify today unluckily uses King Crimson tracks as a demonstration of what's on it.

Architect of the Geocities (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

TS: "unluckily" vs "a bit stupidly"

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

"we understand you are an American, and we can't service you"

first thing I see when I go to the website.

good luck spotify

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

"we understand you are an American, and we can't service you"

It's good they're so understanding.

onimo, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

is this open to uk folks without an invite still?

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Friday, 30 January 2009 15:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

nope. invite needed. or payment.

mark e, Friday, 30 January 2009 15:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Alba, Friday, 30 January 2009 15:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

(worked last time I looked)

Alba, Friday, 30 January 2009 15:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

ooooh.
i just got an invite and thought that was the only way in.
excellent news, and apologies for the mistake.

mark e, Friday, 30 January 2009 15:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Heh, that's the FOURTH time that link has been posted on this thread!

mike t-diva, Friday, 30 January 2009 16:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Skipping 136 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all."

so much gold hidden within i guess

mark e, Friday, 30 January 2009 16:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Things looking up, 10,000 new albums added today according to the blog. Qucik scan through the list, good lot of stuff from ACT, ECM, Touch and Mego. New albums from M Ward, Little Joy, Anthony & the Johnsons and just for Lex, Animal Collective. My pick though is Human League's 'Golden Hour of the Future'

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Monday, 2 February 2009 21:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Doubt Beat

http://open.spotify.com/user/smarmy/playlist/33bRsp1Qk7kVL6Umf3vj82

This was a muxtape I was going to do just before it went down. There are a few things I couldn't find on Spotify, but I got most of it. All early 80s UK stuff.

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

That looks awesome, Jamie. Out of interest: which version of Temptation is that? Alternate 12" ... yew wot?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

(I guess that might become clearer when I listen to it, but still.)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I hadn't heard it before either. I think it was on http://www.discogs.com/New-Order-1981-1982/release/61596, which I've been trying to track down a copy of for ages.

But now we have it in all its glory!

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Although that whole EP is on the bonus disc of the CD reissue of Movement, apparently.

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hang on, I've just skipped through it now. Umm: isn't it just the original 12"? (Which, yes, is the one on what I'd call Factus 8, ie the thing you linked to above.)

I think the problem with Temptation is everyone thinks the re-recorded 1987/Substance version is the original, which it just ain't. That's yet another of my problems with those remasters/collector's versions: they're pathetically short on descriptive detail. Which, when you're dealing with anally retentive Factory fucks like myself, is a bad thing.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think the problem with Temptation is everyone thinks the re-recorded 1987/Substance version is the original, which it just ain't.

(I was one of those ignorant people till a couple of years ago.)

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

I did a snow-themed playlist: http://tinyurl.com/spotifysnow

(Fully road-tested, hand-sequenced and quality-controlled. I didn't JUST type "snow" into the search box, honest...)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

I'm going to spend the next two hours listening to all the New Order bonus discs on Spotify.

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

I was one of those ignorant people till a couple of years ago

Oh, man, I was confused to fuck about that back in the day. I got Substance for Christmas when I was 13 (1988, I guess) and I think it was buying the 7" at a record fair a couple of years later that a) made me think fuck, WHAT? This is a totally different song! and b) turned me into a not-very-good Factory completist.

I probably have more versions of Temptation, scattered across vinyl/CD/compilations/bootlegs/etc than any other song, which is why I was -- for a glorious second -- incredibly excited by the notion of an as-yet-unheard one!

Listening to your mix now. It's superb. Thanks for sharing.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 11:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost again

That looks great, too, Mike. Should we start a separate thread for sharing and talking about playlists?

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

that woud be a great idea. and keep this one for bashing and other updates

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

please guys, send me an invite!

thanks.

kaiser, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Fifth time this link has been posted ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

(I can't see why you'd need an invitation code when everyone else using that link is getting in fine!)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Any luck, then?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

I have an invite if you have no luck with that link, kaiser

MARK HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET ABOUT BRAVE FENCER MUSASHI? (cozwn), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

What's the deal then - is everything on Spotify clean-versions?
I'm trying to listen to Juvenile and probably only 1/10 of the words are getting through

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh, yeh: it's run by a fundamentalist Christian sect who don't believe in swearing, premarital relations or cheese. Sorry, thought everyone knew that.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

fuck that noise!

(a mess0 (Ioannis), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Now playing: Straight Outta Communion

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 15:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone else found the wrong songs playing yet? I've had one or two, the most recent being Alien Sex Fiend turning out to be the Mission
http://open.spotify.com/track/1XflNRUaUHrfYDkwMG0tIT

This album goes screwy about halfway through meaning you have to click on track 8 to hear track 7, track 9 to hear track 8, etc. and all your last.fm scrobbling is fucked up.

I can't find a feedback mechanism to correct tags.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

This album, even

http://open.spotify.com/album/0LjK4Y0vtEUOKnbIzQlmi7

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wanted to listen to Wire's 154 the other day (yes despite having it on cd) but it only came up as the 3cd set, and then it would only play the songs in order - even clicking play on the first track on 154 would play Practice makes perfect, but the tags were showing correctly. Weird.

of course instead of getting the cd out I listened to something else altogether.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/reporting_bad_meta_data

For now, the best way to get metadata changes into Spotify is to look up the album on Musicbrainz and fix the problem or add the album if it doesn't already exist. Eventually, the fixes will end up in Spotify.

Musicbrainz has that album with 15 tracks while Spotify lists 13 with tracks 7 and 15 missing.

I can't see any way to "fix" this as the Musicbrainz listing is correct - meaning the only way to get Spotify to play the correct tracks is to delete track 7 from Musicbrainz or wait until Spotify add the missing tracks.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly I am on this now, and it is playing GO SAILOR indiepop with good sound quality, and I think it might even be scrobbling to lastfm. ... yes it is !!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 13:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

idjut boys most recent 'death before distemper' mix is up there as a 67min long (advert free so far) track, impressive

vain_bowers, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 19:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

on a bright morning it's playing DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

aargh fuck the energy saving trust, makes me want to put my heating on at full blast with all my windows open!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 10:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

1) Energy Saving Trust
2) Spotify
3) Arlington Road

Any others?

NotEnough, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 10:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

directgov.org possibly the least annoying.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

DEC gaza appeal

cat anatomy expert (ledge), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

- which confused me 'cause DEC sounds a bit like BBC.

cat anatomy expert (ledge), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

White Lies had an advert when their rec was new.

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

And Lady Gaga too for a second.

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

U2 have a banner ad up just now, slightly ominously.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

There was a while near the beginning where the only advert they were running was for Madagascar. 'I Like To Move It Move It', though great, is particularly obtrusive popping up two thirds of the way through a Sibelius symphony.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Arlington Road

Revolutionary Road?

If so: nope, I've heard nothing else. This business model worries me enormously.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

There was that tax returns advert, but that's over now. They could start warning people about next year's maybe.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

i hate the advert with the whistling guy so much

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

the only way they could do worse is if they got tiny from tile it all to do one(Grimly and Onimo might understand that one)

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

^ Think that's before my time north of the Border?

But FUCK YES, I hate whistling Direct Gov guy. He's just been on, actually. And I winced.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

grimly its been around for 10 years at least but still on. I guess you dont have parents who listen to clyde 2 and you will avoid clyde1 on a saturday as you hate football.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Got it in one. Er, two :)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

i dont mind whistling, its just that whistling with the teeth thing of that advert i hate. ugh. still not getting a tenner a month tho from me. i'll just not use it if it continues haha

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

This site seems useful.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

For now, the co-founders are putting their own money into the company.

Can't accuse The Grauniad of being first with news here, but that's an interesting little line.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

The guys behind it still seem to be basing the business model on the pay-for side of things, when it seems to me the free thing is what makes it.

stet, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

link doesnt work

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

1. Key point not made clear by that article: Spotify allows me to listen to full-length albums with one click. Last.fm doesn't have anything remotely like as many full-length albums; also (and this might be a browser thing, but hey) it often gets pissy when a track finishes and require me to pop back to the requisite window before it starts playing the next one. Also: browser-based anything can suck dick for a whole heap of reasons.

2. Key point totally misunderstood by that article: mobile Spotify would rule so fucking hard that I'd shell out a goodly whack of cash for it.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, if it's not a killer app already, mobile functionality would definitively make it so.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Make it so!"

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

I have to say, despite my moans and gripes above, it really has been a revelation, both for old music and new. I sincerely, sincerely hope it doesn't fuck up :)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Me too. Almost seems to good to be true TBH, despite some reservations.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

If I could get some of my shared playlists on the move I'd shell out too, aye. Though I'd need a 3g phone too, I guess.

stet, Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh dear. Thought I'd have a listen to the last Spiritualized album -- which I never got round to at the time -- while I toiled over some books this evening. But Spotify ain't playing ball: it's stuttering and stopping as if ... well, as if it had just been hit up by thousands and thousands of new users and couldn't cope.

So I'm, er, using Last.fm to listen to it instead. This seems to mean pressing "play" again after every track, which sucks (perhaps I should try it in Firefox! Hmm) but at least it actually plays the songs.

I've seen this once before with Spotify ... think it was at the weekend. Again: if they're going to throw it wide open, they need the fucking bandwidth. Or do premium-account holders get streaming priority?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

I bet they do. One song int the Hole "pretty on the inside "album and whistling fucker advert is on. Adverts every 4 songs now approx. bloody annoying.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

it isnt worth £10 a month tho. £2 a month maybe.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

xx-post That happened to me the other day, but assumed it was a problem at my end as my computer's pretty flaky at times.

(Although at other times I'll get time-outs off some website and think 'huh is my internet broken? has my router died' and spend ages desperately hoping nothing's actually broken and all the time I'll have Spotify running perfectly, signifying there is clearly nothing wrong with 'my internet' as such.)

I've not had that many adverts recently.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thought I'd have a listen to the last Spiritualized album

This might have been a mistake, too.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Its a good album

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm unconvinced so far.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

It needs a month to sink in I found.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hang on, why the FUCK is it not scrobbling properly? I'm listening to it FROM THE FUCKING LAST.FM PLAYER!

It's obviously one of those nights.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

I had loads of Spotify time-outs last week, particularly around 6pm to 7pm. Late evenings were always OK. This week has been pretty much back to normal, though.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

About the removal of tracks mentioned in the Grauniad article linked above: it should be unbelievable that the dinosaurs are still acting like dinosaurs, but it's sadly predictable. Even with meteorites hurtling towards them they will not change their ways.

The majors should have learned from Napster a decade ago and everything that's happened to them since and adapt to the new world. Instead they try to un-invent the wheel in a pitiful, Canute-like attempt to cling to their rusting old world.

The 1950s retail approach is dead and buried.

They all deserve to go bust.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 13 February 2009 09:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Indeed. They're intent on protecting something that's past protection.

They don't seem to get that the Spotify guy (gonna take you high!) is OTM when he says their competition isn't the retailers but the pirates.

I still think the Spotify model is flawed as there isn't enough incentive to subscribe beyond avoiding the annoying whistling advert - but if it was portable I could see it being a huge success.

ducking kiosk monkey (onimo), Friday, 13 February 2009 10:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Marcello, the majors are all fully on board with Spotify. Interestingly, it's the artists themselves who have requested specific exclusion (the usual handful of suspects, basically), which suggests a more complex balance of power than I would have imagined. The rest of the deletions concern independent label releases where permissions hadn't been verified in the first place - the Spotify people were quite trigger-happy with their uploads when the service was still in private beta, and they see the situation as of their own making, and have apologised for it.

In the Guardian piece - or rather the headlines that accompany it -undue stress has been placed on the removals. Finger in the air estimate: the service has gone from 90% to 80% track availability at most, although this depends on how mainstream one's tastes are - last time I checked, all but two or three of the current UK Top 40 singles were available, for instance.

mike t-diva, Friday, 13 February 2009 10:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

They're adding quite a bit of stuff at the moment too, just after the cull the track count was just over 2 million and a quick look shows they've added another 40,000 or so this week alone.

I'm on the free plan at the moment but I'd be tempted to subscribe just to make sure it doesn't go belly up. Tenner a month doesn't seem much really for unlimited music, cost of a cd I'd listen to a handful of times then stick on a shelf and forget.

I wonder if last.fm will respond in some way soon. It's got a much higher profile than Spotify but other than scrobbling, which I guess Spotify will implement sometime, there's little reason for using it now.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 February 2009 10:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify already scrobbles to last.fm - you can switch it on in the settings. It works perfectly - you even get a little Spotify logo on your last.fm profile page to tell you where the music's coming from.

last.fm is still your best place for recommendations and unexpected surprises - whereas Spotify has replaced most of my iTunes listening (and it's much less bloaty, of course).

mike t-diva, Friday, 13 February 2009 10:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Now all we need is someone to crack it and remove the thing that triggers the ads in the free version...

(shame)

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 13 February 2009 10:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

I knew that Spotify scrobbles to last.fm, my point was that now I'm only using last.fm to check my listening stats (sad bastard that I am). The social networking aspects of last.fm haven't really mattered to me (antisocial bastard that I am), so I don't spend much time on there now. I'm happy to find stuff via playlists and random searches, I enjoyed a lot of your best of 2008 for example and can now find stuff in a much easier way than before, the Paarvoharju album for example.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 February 2009 10:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not sure if this has already been mentioned -

http://www.gustavsoderstrom.com/?p=45

^ former Yahoo Director of Business Development now heading up Spotify Mobile.

ducking kiosk monkey (onimo), Friday, 13 February 2009 11:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

fucks sake an advert every 3 songs now

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

argh whistling bastard advert

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

going to get board of spotify quickly unless they get some less mainstream label stuff up. its good for mainstream music but if they need obscurer stuff.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

-if

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

still atm I'm listening to CCR albums and all is well.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 20:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

findanyfilm.comadvert fuck off every 3songs

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 21:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

And now 2 ads in succession. Anyone else getting this or is it just an anomaly?

In better news, some Spotify sites:
http://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/02/19/spotified-cd-collection-and-some-other-community-sites/

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

From the spotify updates alert thing. I thought my playing artists I already own cds by was pointless enough, but no:

This morning a user posted his Spotified CD Collection on the blog which I thought was amazing and really creative. What he’s done is he’s taken a digital picture of his CD shelf and then linked each jewel case to that artists in Spotify. So now he can sit and look at his CD collection online and decide what to listed to but instead of sticking the actual CD into a player you launched the album on Spotify, so cool.

Also:

Some other fun sites that have appeared recently include: Spotinews, which highlights new additions to our catalogue, Spotify Search which is an addon for Firefox to lets you find music from any web page in Spotify and a web page that finds new albums recently added to Spotify that match the top 50 artists from your Last.fm profile.

We love stuff like this so if you’ve done something creative with Spotify please let us know, we’d like to see it and share it with everyone.

The last.fm thing seems to work quite well. It's told me that a load of old Animal Collective and Disco Inferno are up.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, what Neil said.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ooh DI Go Pop is on there, I've been wanting to hear that for ages!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's great! I've been wanting to hear it without fetching the cd for ages too, so everyone's happy.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/TheWordMagazine/status/1230055579

There is fun to be had here.

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Morning, Spotifiers. In what we believe is a first in rock and roll media, we're handing over the virtual decks on the WORD office to you, the reader. All day today (Friday 20th Feb) we're going to play the music you choose.

There's a collaborative Spotify playlist linked below, which you can add to and help build up. We'll play it all day and listen to whatever you select (and we'll choose our favourites for another, Best Of You Are The DJ list). And we'll be playing it on shuffle, so no need to worry if you get started late. Your track has just as much chance of being played as an early addition.

The Spotify list is here – click and it'll launch (as long as you've got Spotify). If you need to download Spotify, it's available here.

And of course, you can play the list via your own computer and assess the musical taste of the WORD Hive Mind yourself.

THE RULES
1] Post one track at a time. No complete albums or huge runs of a single artist – we'll delete them.
2] There are no other rules.

We'll be tweeting our reactions here so you can see what we think of the tracks as they play. And you can monitor exactly what we're playing right now via the miracle of our Last.fm page, which will be scrobbling the tracks live.

Comments welcomed below, of course, or sign up to Twitter and stick your oar in live and direct. The Spotify list is live NOW so let the uploading of Blackout Crew and New Riders of the Purple Sage rareities commence!"

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just added "Come With Me" by Special D.

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hope they have Metal Machine Music!

Leon Brambles (G00blar), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sadly the full 60 minute version of Dopesmoker by Sleep is unavailable.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think when Word Magazine's Spotify playlist be all up in your face you gotta be like YAHHH TRICK YAHHH

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Word's last.fm profile: possibly the indie-schmindiest of all time: http://www.last.fm/user/TheWordMagazine

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

They're about to get injected with a poison...

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

TheWordMagazine

Recently Listened Tracks

Listening now using Spotify
Praga Khan – Injected With a Poison full track

I am using your worlds, Friday, 20 February 2009 15:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with TheWordMagazine is Very High

Music you have in common includes New Order, The Shortwave Set, The Orb, John Martyn and Vangelis.

;_;

I am using your worlds, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

They appear to have stopped Twittering.

David Bentley: Rhythm Ace (Matt DC), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with TheWordMagazine is VERY HIGH
Music you have in common includes The Fall, New Order, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Magazine and Kraftwerk

It's hardly a schmindie profile: just a very predictable one. You'd have to be a bit of an iconoclast to go "lol Bowie and Kraftwerk", no?

Anyway. Hamburger Lady by Throbbing Gristle is on Spotify, and thus should be an essential feature of any collaborative playlist.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 21 February 2009 11:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah fair enough, predictable rather than lol indie I guess.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 21 February 2009 12:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is fun, but Spotify can't cope with mixes very well.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 16:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

Have just noticed that when I mute ads, they pause--this wasn't always like that, right?

f f murray abraham (G00blar), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

1. Spotify iPhone application in action. Allegedly:

2. Anyone else finding Spotify won't scrobble to Last.fm today? It just tells me "can't connect to Last.fm server". Other Last.fm-related shit working absolutely fine.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 26 February 2009 12:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

That's cool. I might even go buy an iPhone for this.

(actually, I won't but it is cool.)

NotEnough, Thursday, 26 February 2009 12:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Reasons it might not be cool:

1. Apple won't allow the app in its store.
2. They will allow it but it will be a bit rubbish because it will drain the battery really fast
3. It won't drain the battery too fast but it will be annoying because it won't let you listen to music while doing other things on your iPhone because background processes aren't allowed.

Alba, Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeh, assuming the thing ever sees the light of day on non-jailbroken devices, #3 there is the real clincher :(

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

Battery's going to be bad, aye, though mine is already shot to ribbons by Google Sync. Background processes are a-coming, it seems, so that's alright.

stet, Thursday, 26 February 2009 13:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Except then your battery life will get worse again, and it will all start crashing more.

I don't know why I am being so negative today.

Alba, Thursday, 26 February 2009 14:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

the last FM app works plenty lovely, and can't see apple objecting to spotify app if last FM is ok

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

They have all the Helmet stuff inc the born annoying single. And I listened to Quicksand albums yesterday. Was pleased to find this stuff. Next I'm gonna search for Unsane, Butthole Surfers, GVSB and Prong. (even though I have all these on my ipod I do like the idea of these guys getting paid.

How much do you think a fair price to pay for a subscription is? £10 a month is too much for me. If it was £3 id definitely pay. How about £15 for 6 months access? £15 every 6 months is more than they would be getting now from most people.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 27 February 2009 20:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

£15 for 4 months even would be ok. £45 a year compared to zero as well.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 27 February 2009 20:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

I really do rather like this app... they've got everything right - the ads are infrequent enough to let you enjoy a few albums without interruption, but annoying enough to have you momentarily reach for your wallet. A great selection of stuff too and brilliant for satisfying idle curiosity.

However, looking at the page for interested artists and labels it's quite obvious that by using Spotify you are providing lots of valuable marketing information to the labels involved and indicates the future directions that the service will take: "Your own artist area allows you to build a direct relationship with fans, old and new, across the world. Develop revenue streams through the sale of downloads, merchandising, concert tickets and more, as well as earning a share of the revenues we create through our advertising and premium businesses. Powerful, granular, in-depth reporting is available to participating labels and artists."

I guess most people have implicitly accepted that signing up for Spotify means their listening habits will be open to the scrutiny of major labels. However, this might not actually be a bad thing... if your tasts are as varied as most here then hopefully they'll just throw their hands up at the notion of targetted marketing and the like and just concentrate on putting out QUALITY music that consumers might actually want. Alternatively they'll manufacture some kind of crazy Kraftwerk-meets-Porter Waggoner-and-Sugar Hill Gang combo.

p.s. everyone in the UK should listen to the Leon Rosselson and Roy Bailey album on there. In the absence of anything by Crass it's a good alternative... I think this recession business is 80s nostalgia gone too far.

Rombald, Friday, 27 February 2009 21:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

OMG, it's Roberta-from-Spotify!

mike t-diva, Saturday, 28 February 2009 11:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ooh, she's lovely. I always thought that was an actress reading the lines.

Creedence Clearwater Couto (Billy Dods), Saturday, 28 February 2009 12:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hmm. This thing is becoming a bugger for not connecting to Last.fm (although I'm sure that's Last.fm fault rather than Spotify's). At the moment it's got tracks queued, apparently. Be interesting to see if/when/how it connects ...

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 28 February 2009 13:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

The anti-music industry opinions expressed in this thread are... disheartening. Three years ago it might've been fun to laugh at Metallica and fuck the man. But instead we've got distros closing, indie labels cutting back their release schedule.

Anyway, I'm curious as to how Spotify is gonna pay the artists who's music they're exploiting for their own advert sales and subscriptions. (Not implying they don't, but there's nothing written online about it).

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Saturday, 28 February 2009 14:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm with you, worried about the overfishing of the entire industry just because their product is now so easily copied and distributed. (is odd here in the uk because we all grew up with listenable radio stations and are used to tuning in and hearing good stuff. is easy to forget it's paid for by tv license.)

but spotify do seem to have major label support and i doubt they'd have that if the labels weren't being paid.

koogs, Saturday, 28 February 2009 15:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Don't you think the recession might have something to do with labels cutting back? afaik it's never been conclusively shown that pirating has significantly harmed the industry.

ledge, Saturday, 28 February 2009 15:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

but shops were closing well before last year.

koogs, Saturday, 28 February 2009 16:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

When I've chatted with managers and artists and labels about album sales, the numbers in 2009 are far less than they were for similar releases five years ago, including digital sales. (On the bright side: t-shirt sales are way up.)

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Saturday, 28 February 2009 16:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Maybe people are more interested in watching dvds than listening to music nowadays? In my experience with people in general that is the case. Diehard music fans are a minority.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 February 2009 16:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

And yes, Spotify does make payments to labels and artists. What the scale is, I don't know. If Youtube is any indication, it means that Cake guy from the Portal game will (rightly?) make more dough from Spotify than any bands making albums-as-statements.

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Saturday, 28 February 2009 16:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Someone speculated earlier it would be the same as last.fm pays: $0.0005 per play - meaning a million plays are required to get the artist $500.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Sunday, 1 March 2009 12:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

@ Tourtiere (Owen Pallett) - I personally don't see many anti-music industry opinions here, and hope you didn't mean my post which was a little tongue in cheek.

It's pretty much taken as read by all consumers that (SLSK users & blog cruisers excepted) you don't get something for nothing. For majors to offer their catalogues in this way there has to be some idea that it makes financial sense. In context of a global financial crisis in which "£50 man" might the same way as Zavvi et al, so Spotify brings us the first step toward the rebranding of music not as an art, but as a utility like gas or electricity.

As an artist one can't help feel a more than little affronted by the notion that notion of music as an 'art' will finally disappear from the mainstream. Not that this is actually anything new. Obviously music has always been "product" to many labels, and indeed even up to the 19th century and its "heroic" composers much music served a utilitarian role (soundtrack to a coronation, mass, birthday celebration of a prince etc.). IMO the idea of music as an unquestionable high art is a 19th century pretension that probably deserves to die no matter how much my conditioned personality rails against this "debasement" of the art; it after all only in the late medieval times that composers even began to put attributions on their work, and they still kick the arse of most modern stuff!

The wheel is once again coming full circle.

Rombald, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

online listening is killing piracy

tuomasters at work (blueski), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

gunships are killing pirates

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

@ Rombald. No, no, it's not an affront... I'm 100% "for" music as a utility.

The issue is strictly economical. Recording, mastering, rehearsing... all these things cost money. I mean, I love MPC-based records, Garageband-based records, Panasonic RX-FT500 records, records entirely made in-the-box for next-to-nothing.

But these new economic models will eventually render recording-with-a-budget impossible. You can tell me that "a budget don't make a good record" and I'd agree. But the bestest records of the last few months (Portishead, Animal Collective, Lindstrom, those Aeroplane remixes y'all love) all took gear and compressors and microphones and mixing consoles and nice mastering jobs. Erykah Badu, dude. That record was expensive.

One of the reasons why I think Bradford Cox is gonna be around far longer than any of us other bozos is that he's developed a method of record-making that is time-efficient and cost-efficient. Atlas Sound is the gorgeous sound of a record that cost nothing to make.

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Monday, 2 March 2009 18:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

(I'm still waiting to hear about Spotify's business model.)

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Monday, 2 March 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

Entirety of Domino catalogue added today!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Monday, 2 March 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

@ Owen:
Completely agree - it's just my own and others gut reactions to "utilification" are gonna die hard! ;o) I'd already resolved myself to and the idea that working from home studios is indeed going to be the future for most musicians whether they like it or not. I certainly do, and have recorded with a setup that cost no more than, oohh, £400 for the last 10 years (- that includes all instruments too!).

Shame that more conventional lavish recording sessions with orchestras/session pros/cocaine might be doomed under the new financial model, but on the plus side I think Spotify could well save the "album experience", which is definitely a great thing!

Rombald, Monday, 2 March 2009 19:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Please stop using the "@" symbol to show you're addressing someone, thanks.

Captain Save-Ahlo (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Monday, 2 March 2009 19:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes. I'm looking forward to trawling Spotify for Julian's Treatment or whatever.

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Monday, 2 March 2009 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

@ Captain:

@.

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Monday, 2 March 2009 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Check out all the jazz on spotify. Plenty of Blue Note RVG editions

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 16:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Did anyone else get the "oops someone stole all our password hashes" email?

I can't get into the Spotify website to change my password - there's probably a rush on.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 18:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes got it too.

Snowballing, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 18:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Dear Spotify user,

Last week we were alerted to a group that managed to compromise
our protocols. After investigating we concluded that this group
had gained access to information that could allow testing of a
very large number of passwords, possibly finding the right one.
The information was exposed due to a bug that we discovered and
fixed on December 19th, 2008. Until last week we were unaware
that anyone had had access to our protocols to exploit it.

Along with passwords, registration information such as your email
address,birth date, gender, postal code and billing receipt
details were potentially exposed. Credit card numbers are not
stored by us and were not at risk. All payment data is handled
by a secure 3rd party provider.

If you have an account that was created on or before December 19th 2008,
we strongly suggest that you change your password and strongly
encourage you to change your passwords for any other services
where you use the same password.

When choosing your password we provide you with an indicator of
the password strength to help you choose a good one. To change
your password please visit your profile page on our website.

https://www.spotify.com/en/account/profile/

For the technically minded amongst you, the information that may
have been exposed when our protocols were compromised is the
password hashes. As stated, we never store passwords, and they
have never been sent over the Internet unencrypted, but the
combination of the bug and the group's reverse-engineering of
our encrypted streaming protocol may have given outsiders access
to individual hashes.

The hashes are salted, making attacks using rainbow tables unfeasible.
Short or otherwise bad passwords could still be vulnerable to
offline targeted brute-force or dictionary attacks on individual
users, but you could not run attacks in parallel. Also, there
has been no known breach of our internal systems. A complete user
database has not been leaked, but until December 19th, 2008 it was
possible to access the password hashes of individual users had
you reverse-engineered the Spotify protocol and knew the
username.

We are really sorry about this and hope you accept our apologies.
We're doubling our efforts to keep the systems secure in order
to prevent anything like this from happening again.

Regards,
The Spotify Team

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 19:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

I went in and changed my password anyway

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 19:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sometimes there are benefits to being a slightly late adopter, I guess.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 19:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

I would hereby like to register a hearty "fuck you" to The Script, and their corporate shill Jo Wiley.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Until they fix the Mac-client-not-scrobbling bug -- which has been discussed at length on the Get Satisfaction forums; apparently it'll be sorted in the next upgrade, whenever that'll be -- I'm not using Spotify. Missing out on the adverts cheers me slightly, at least.

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh are there no ads on the mac version? I haven't encountered any yet although I keep thinking after every song I listen to that I'm going to be hit with an ad for the new Kings of Leon album or something totally unrelated to whatever I'm listening to.

salsa shark, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think Grimly means he's not using it as a result of scrobbling probs, so he's not subjected to the ads.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

^ Er, yes, exactly.

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm refusing to listen to music played in shops or on builder's radios until they sort out the scrobbling problems.

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

A principled stand.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

sorry, yeah, I just got my first ever ad (kings of leon as predicted), but it took about 20 songs for it to happen.

salsa shark, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

xxpost

Well, in fairness: "Oh, yeh, this is fixed now ... er, sorry, we can't be arsed rolling the thing out yet, though" (which is effectively what they're saying) is a bit of a cunty attitude -- especially from a company who force updates on their users whether they want them or not.

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Aye they should say "Oh, yeh, this is fixed now ... er, sorry, we can't be arsed rolling the thing out yet, though, to be fair, free fucking music all day every day grimly wtf do you want for nothing eh eh?"

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

Pretty good bargaining tho: Give us some money or we'll keep hitting you with Script, Glasvegas and KoL adverts.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Oh, yeh, this is fixed now ... er, sorry, we can't be arsed rolling the thing out yet, though, to be fair, free fucking music all day every day grimly wtf do you want for nothing eh eh?"

Umm. Sorry, but "it's free" != "excuse for shit customer service". Many, many services work on a similar "free" model these days (which probably won't last); when you've got 100-odd people saying, politely: "This isn't working properly, can you fix it?" and you're basically told: "Aye, it's fixed, but fuck off, you're not important enough for us to bother rolling it out" ... well, you might think that's reasonable, but I'm not so sure.

Also: if I was paying for it, I'd be in the same boat. <- Shittest argument ever, but hey :)

Atoms are "balls" (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

boycott spotify!

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Do you not use it then?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

i do but im getting bored of it. It's fine for well known music on major labels but if they dont expand to get more obscure stuff im gonna end up never using it.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I can see that. At the moment there's more than enough major label stuff to keep me happy though!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 13:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

The huge selection of Blue Note Jazz is what's keeping me on it. Hopefully they will license stuff from some of the independent labels i like (southern lord,hydrahead etc)

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Recommend some of said jazz. As you say, the dearth of alternative labels is bad, although recent additions of Domino and Warp are a step in the right direction.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 17:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

wel the usual suspects of miles davis, john coltrane, sun ra, charles mingus are all up there along with Archie Shepp, Albert Ayler, Pharaoh Sanders,sonny rollins, alice coltrane, lonnie liston smith etc

plus pretty much all the Blue Note roster. Grant green, lee morgan, lou donaldson,wayne shorter , donald byrd, joe henderson, hank mobley, babyface willete to name a few.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 17:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify really needs a browse by genre and artists by alphabetical order list

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 17:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

also browse by labels

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 17:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nice one, thanks Herman, will start digging!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 18:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

i expect you to keep us up-to-date with your jazz listening on the last fm thread!

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 19:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

hehe neil jumps to it

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Root Down and Get It" is great, and familiar from the Beastie Boys track of the similar name.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 12 March 2009 10:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

i knew someone would say that

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

So predictable!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

can i ask somebody to mailme an invite? ta.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2009 13:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Do they not play adverts during the weekend then? I played three full albums and some assorted tracks on Spotify this w/end and never once had an ad inturrupting.

DavidM, Monday, 16 March 2009 13:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost. I didn't think you needed an invite anymore. If you need one, I'll mail one to you.

Dave Gahan, lead singer of Depeche Mode (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 March 2009 13:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

tried quickly to get on last night, seemed to need one. appreciate it.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2009 13:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Mail me your address and I'll get it sorted then.

Dave Gahan, lead singer of Depeche Mode (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 March 2009 13:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Done!

Dave Gahan, lead singer of Depeche Mode (Billy Dods), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

cheers.

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost - Yes, VERY few ads over the weekend. 'Twas bliss.

mike t-diva, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

New ILM Spring collabo playlist.

Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

wtf is this zarif pish?

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 11:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

I saw Zarif supporting Chris Brown in January. Perhaps the least effective arena support I've ever seen. Cheered to the rafters when she announced "And this is my last number"...

Good to see the 2020 label on Spotify, especially the superb Greg Wilson label comp from last year - highly recommended:

http://open.spotify.com/album/70IMqk0XAaeYWnyHcrhB63

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

26 Klaus Schulze and 16 Popol Vuh albums added today, any recommendations on which ones to try first?

Dave Gahan, lead singer of Depeche Mode (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

i've been waiting for Popol Vuh. great news!

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

lol i just d/l some schulze tonight, wish you had told me an hour ago

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

serive is currently down ;_;

ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh well it was early albums i got and theyre not there

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

Moondawn id say to start with that for Klaus Schulze

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

Popul Vuh > In Den Garten Pharaos, Hosianna Mantra,Aguirre, Affenstunde.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Is it broken for everyone else?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh, it's working again!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

great, looking forward to all that Krautrock. The Fever Ray record which is getting some discussion elsewhere is also on there.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

y'all, please keep the playlists coming, i love the ILX feb collab one especially, a bunch of great tunes on there.

neustile, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

top 5 most wanted features:

1. TAGS (so as to find similar material more easily)
2. more meta data displayed and searchable esp. original year of release, label, nation, genres
3. thumbs up/down tracks (maybe only interesting for low-audience playlists), or maybe 1-10 rating system
4. better home page - itunes-style portal (inc. more 'new this month' type listings), customisable
5. videos (ok maybe next year)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh and playlists to be searchable (if public) too definitely

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

M.I.A. seems to be getting paid (if anyone is) for MIA.'s music.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 19 March 2009 01:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Still no Melt-Banana or Boredoms :(

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 19 March 2009 01:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hopefully they will license stuff from some of the independent labels i like (southern lord,hydrahead etc)

There's a list of the labels they have deals with here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=psnjFY3R2itudXATC9GQVUg

http://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/02/27/spotify-missing-your-favorite-artists-you-can-help/

have a look at the labels we have signed, if the artist is covered by one of the deals then it’s likely they’ll get added to our catalogue in the near future. We’re currently adding about 10,000 tracks a day from our current deals.

If they’re not a part of one of our current deals then the way you can help us is to contact the label or artists and let them know you want to hear their music on Spotify. We’re ready and willing to sign any label and they can contact our content team by emailing cont✧✧✧@spot✧✧✧.c✧✧.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 19 March 2009 01:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

well i posted on the comments thread a list of labels i'd like added. So maybe if some people second it and ask for other stuff you like they might take notice.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 19 March 2009 10:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

can't access this service from ireland? can that be right?

Anthony, I am not an Alcoholic & Drunk (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2009 11:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

At last, Velvet Underground Loaded fully loaded edition is on spotify. I have the banana box set but i cant be arsed ripping it.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 19 March 2009 12:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

rofl Sweet Jane is unavailable
"the artist/label has chosen to make this track unavailable"

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 19 March 2009 12:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Couple of weeks ago I brought my laptop with me when I was going to the Netherlands and even though in the Netherlands only the paid-for version is available I could play my in England installed (free) version of Spotify without any problem and, that's the best bit, without any ads either.

Joris Stereo, Thursday, 19 March 2009 12:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

They let you use it for two weeks when travelling. After that, you have to register in whatever country you're in.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 19 March 2009 13:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

rofl Sweet Jane is unavailable
"the artist/label has chosen to make this track unavailable"

And yet they let you listen to the long version on the same album!

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 19 March 2009 13:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

Popul Vuh > In Den Garten Pharaos, Hosianna Mantra,Aguirre, Affenstunde.

"Sei Still, wisse ich bin"; "Bruders des Schattens"; "Herz aus Glas"; "Letzte Tage"

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 14:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Still no Melt-Banana or Boredoms :(

― the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 19 March 2009

Just added!

Melt-Banana

"Mxbx 1998 - 13,000 Miles At Light Velocity" (album)
http://open.spotify.com/album/1xTRltVBoDXKYj1WBUYD4S

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 20 March 2009 14:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

I could live with the BBC Gaza appeal and Robertafromspotify... but everytime I hear that Zarif ad I momentarily reach for my wallet!

Curse you, Spotify! Zarif is the ace up your sleeve!

Rombald, Friday, 20 March 2009 19:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

but everytime I hear that Zarif ad I momentarily reach for my wallet revolver!

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Loads of Skinny Puppy added this week, if that floats yer boat.

Is there anywhere that has the full catalogue for viewing? I look at the updates blog and I get artist notifications from http://freshspotify.com/ but I get the feeling there's loads of stuff I'll never see or know about because of the limitations of the search. Say you want to hear some old blues stuff but don't know the exact names of albums. Searching "blues" gets you 1329 albums, of which 12 are listed then it says "and 1317 more.." but the 1317 more bit isn't a link so there's no way to find out what "more" might include.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 20 March 2009 20:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

they really need a list of their catalogue and also have a browse by genre/labels feature

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 20:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

you can get alerts based on your last fm top artists. quite handy http://www.freshspotify.com/alerts/importlastfm

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Type "year:0-2100" in the spotify search bar and it gives you a total of what's available in your area. I have just under a quarter of a million albums available. Better get listening :)

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 20 March 2009 20:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the tip.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

shame it doesnt have a list of them all :(

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

hahaha you can listen to Krokus albums on it

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

lots of Saxon to make you feel like a teenager again onimo

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

someone should start a playlist for this thread and just add every album on it ;)

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Saxon is a band that has been around forever and has completely passed me by so I don't think they'll bring the teenage nostalgia.

I am currently rediscovering dodgy 80s industrialists The Cassandra Complex.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think I'll undiscover them again if this Frankie Teardrop cover is anything to go by. Bloody awful.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 20 March 2009 21:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

Utterly weird set of most popular tracks by year, obtained by searching on year:yyyy

2009: Crack A Bottle - Eminem
2008: Human - The Killers
2007: Kids - MGMT
2006: In The End - Linkin Park
2005: Fix You - Coldplay
2004: Numb/Encore - Jay-Z/Linkin Park
2003: Basket Case - Green Day
2002: Clocks - Coldplay
2001: Chop Suey! - System Of A Down
2000: Yellow - Coldplay
1999: Fear of the Dark - Iron Maiden
1998: The Kids Aren't Alright - The Offspring
1997: Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life) - Green Day
1996: Fire Water Burn - Bloodhound Gang
1995: 1979 - Smashing Pumpkins
1994: The Middle - Jimmy Eat World
1993: What Is Love - Haddaway
1992: Under The Bridge - Red Hot Chili Peppers
1991: I Want To Break Free - Queen
1990: Cliffs Of Dover - Eric Johnson
1989: Like A Prayer - Madonna
1988: Mother - Danzig
1987: Smooth Criminal - Michael Jackson
1986: Raining Blood - Slayer
1985: Your Love - The Outfield
1984: Dancing In The Dark - Bruce Springsteen
1983: Billie Jean - Michael Jackson
1982: Run to the Hills - Iron Maiden
1981: Don't Stop Me Now - Queen
1980: Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
1979: My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue) - Neil Young
1978: Wuthering Heights - Kate Bush
1977: The Passenger - Iggy Pop
1976: Sir Duke - Stevie Wonder
1975: Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe - Barry White
1974: Strutter - Kiss
1973: I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You - Tom Waits
1972: Heart of Gold - Neil Young
1971: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Rolling Stones
1970: Your Song - Elton John
1969: Gimme Shelter - Rolling Stones
1968: Sympathy for the Devil - Rolling Stones
1967: Sunday Morning - Velvet Underground
1966: Under My Thumb - Rolling Stones
1965: Desolation Row - Bob Dylan
1964: The Times They Are A-Changin' - Bob Dylan
1963: Bob Dylan's Dream - Bob Dylan
1962: Green Onions - Booker T and the MG's
1961: At Last - Etta James
1960: C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran
1959: Let The Good Times Roll - Ray Charles
1958: Splish Splash - Bobby Darin
1957: I Got A Woman - Ray Charles
1956: Love Me - Elvis Presley
1955: Blues for Basie - Oscar Peterson
1954: In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning - Frank Sinatra
1953: There Will Never Be Another You - Chet Baker
1952: Dear Old Stockholm - Miles Davis
1951: Ahmad's Blues - Ahmad Jamal
1950: Autumn Leaves - Cannonball Adderley

mike t-diva, Saturday, 21 March 2009 01:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Search by genre: http://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/03/24/spotify-genres-the-full-listing/

Don't forget the quote marks around multi-word genres.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:19 (5 years ago) Permalink


Comment by ilovehada
2009-03-25 09:35

None of the metal genres work on the searches. Why?
Comment by degis
2009-03-25 09:37

Wow! That was not useful at all! I tried to find some Black Metal and used Death Metal/Black Metal. Got Hammerfall, Soilwork etc. The closest to any Black Metal at all was Dimmu Borgir. Not really what I would call Black Metal…

Why not make a real Black Metal genre with real Black Metal?

lol

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Middle by Jimmy Eat World is NOT from 1994?!

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Genre tags come from AMG. I blame Ned Raggett tbh.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Searching for "grindcore" throws up some pretty interesting results, if by "interesting" one means "wrong".

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

genre:"Happy Hardcore" - 0 artist, 0 songs

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

shame!

genre:"ragga jungle" - 0 as well...

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't think I know what spotify playlists are. Where are they on spotify?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

here's one:
http://open.spotify.com/user/stigoftdump/playlist/0FSVLPzC0gMszrS7AtaCwC

Click on the link and the playlist will appear! You can also create your own by dragging and dropping tracks and albums.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thank you. Can one seek playlists from within Spotify?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

sadly not. really hope they implement such a feature soon.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 13:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

new today
Ulver

* Blood Inside (album)
* Lyckantropen Themes (album)
* Peredition City (album)
* Svidd Neger (album)
* Teachings In Silence (album)

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

which one to start with?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

well, Louis reckons blood inside is the album of the decade. But its not a black metal album, so it depends what youre looking for.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well if it's good enough for Louis it's good enough for me too!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 15:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Never heard this, giving it a go now.

Mute Records Cabaret Voltaire Live At The YMCA 27.10.79. album spotify:album:27doRJOJqOOqZZjLHzjbxH

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

spotify:album:6U4FYnA6MejEBdrcdg1fOl

New Mono album "Hymn to the Immortal Wind"

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

im still waiting on my mono vinyl arriving. pre-ordered it months ago.

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Another vote of "fuck you", this time to the Norah Jones-lite Daily Mail jazz stylings of Melodie Gardot.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 26 March 2009 11:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

If you subscribe you get

VIP

With a monthly subscription you get extra Spotify invites to share with family & friends.

No ads

Search

Find and browse by artist, title, album, genre, year.

Radio

Specify your own radio channel based on genre, year and artist.

Share

Create, share and collaborate on play lists and share links to music.

Is it worth paying just to get any of that?

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm not convinced, and at the moment I'm not using it enough to get annoyed with the ads.

I have noticed that when a cd has a hidden track at the beginning, Spotify plays it at the beginning of track 1 (eg on SFA's Guerrilla and Out Spaced), which is a bit weird, but probably easier than going through tracks individually and cutting them out and giving them names and worrying where you'd fit it in an album playlist.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Saturday, 28 March 2009 16:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

invite? im not UK

moullet, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sent, don't know if it'll work though. Good luck

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

does it have any good techno? like mixes or comps or anything? that's what I'm missing

Local Garda, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to a Tiefschwarz mix of acid house right now!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

What should I look for?

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gah, I'm supposed to be working! Close Spotify. Close ILX.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Search for "phuture", the only two tracks by them are on that mix.

And here's a link to the entire Rekids catalogue:

http://open.spotify.com/user/smarmy/playlist/1tfLQYNse3QqpjJHegUxZ5

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks jona!

moullet, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

All those "VIP" features are already available to free users, with the exception of ad-free.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if that means that they won't be (available to free users) for long.

otm in new york (G00blar), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

All those "VIP" features are already available to free users, with the exception of ad-free.

and search by genre

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Search by genre works for free users, as I already posted.

Spotify - anyone heard of it?

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

but you only can see a few results

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

does it have any good techno? like mixes or comps or anything? that's what I'm missing

― Local Garda, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:24 (4 hours ago)

Sub Club Anniversary mix is great but mostly old stuff

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Saturday, 28 March 2009 21:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah old stuff all good. I just want a few house mixes to play when I'm cooking or something. This Tiefschwarz one is great btw.

Local Garda, Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

Some posts on a last fm forum about spotify http://www.last.fm/forum/21717/_/517178/49
about half way down then again in the last post on that page.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

A couple of Agalloch albums are on Spotify now. I recommend them to all!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 14:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Enjoying it, Neil?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 15:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

yes it was good!

Some great Spotify news: the entirety of Black Sabbath's back catalogue is now available!!!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 13:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

They're pushing the adverts more now, aren't they? You never used to get two at a time. And fuck off, Wired magazine with your "sorry for interrupting your listening".

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 13:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Funnily enough, apart from whistling cunt, i find the adverts for bands/acts FAR more annoying.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

It was kind of inevitable they'd up the advert frequency. How else can they make money? But it's particularly annoying when you're listening to classical music.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

how much would y'all be willing to pay for (ad-less) this again?

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

£5 a month is somehow more easy to swallow than the current £10, for me.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

No, you whiny-sounding fuck, I have not been to the HMV sale. And no, I can't "get someone to cover" for me because I'm reading for an essay. And, furthermore, if I *was* going, you most certainly couldn't come. Now fuck off.

Still: music from £3? Films from £3? Hmm ...

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

apart from whistling cunt

Here, I've not heard that git for ages. Have they canned that one? Good.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'd pay £5 a month, yeah.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

Funnily enough, apart from whistling cunt, i find the adverts for bands/acts FAR more annoying.

Yeah, this is true (I mean, I find this also). At least the adverts are just adverts, and it's a bit like listening to local radio or something, but listening to music and then hearing completely different music really annoys me. Especially the radio 2 jazz woman.

The Wired adverts are just really annoying, like they've heard the Roberta from Spotify ad and based the whole thing on that. And there's more than one ad, so you can't directly tune out of it.

I don't know if I use it regularly enough to warrant subscribing (although I did just re-subscribe to last.fm without really knowing why I had), but I also think the £1 a day thing is too much. Maybe if I was having a party and playing only Spotify all night then I'd stump up one whole pound. Maybe £5.

It'd be nice if Roberta from Spotify or indeed anyone else from Spotify would read this and think 'well, there's £15 a month we wouldn't have had otherwise' and gave us special rates.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Shame there's not a spotify forum , like they have with last fm, where we could all tell them that.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

You can comment on the blog, and the Spotify guy does actually answer questions there.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

last fm forum is so dense, they're probably better off without one

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

ok i'll post and all of you post after me then?
https://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/04/01/today-we-have-a-lot-to-celebrate/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

my post


Comment by pfunkboy
2009-04-01 14:52

Congratulations.
If you bring the price down to £5 a month I’ll happily subscribe. I’m sure you would get a lot more premium users at that price too. £10 a month is a lot in this climate.
Any plans on changing the price?
Who else would subscribe if it was £5 a month?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Have done so too. Solidarity, brothers and sisters!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Done.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah! bring down the man by paying a different man some money to stop listening to the whistling man who is still on there, just not as frequent as he used to be.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

damn that whistlin' man

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

I just hope more ppl post about halving subscription so that Spotify take notice.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

just realised a massive chunk of the touch catalogue is on there

straightola, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 15:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

"A Merciful Release" - box set of the three remastered Sisters of Mercy albums now on

http://open.spotify.com/album/1iOqH6ohy8xJLFH9v8SaiB

spotify:album:1iOqH6ohy8xJLFH9v8SaiB

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

pity they only email me when they add an artist from my last.fm top list. and i cant be arsed looking through pages and pages of stuff in alphabetical order in that google document thing.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 20:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's not that hard to skim the google doc.

They added 140 squillion Grateful Dead albums this week.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 20:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

I see there's a couple of Saint Vitus albums on there

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Lazycame Finbegin album 12 spotify:album:1RedM5z0zcC8q6gYU2jSON

I think they must have finally captured every album in the world ever if they've managed to get to this crap.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

who?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Lez Zeppelin

spotify:album:6kTKatDLQfs5SGm2ADJ2Qi

All girl Zep tribute act. I'm going to have to hear it.

xp
Lazycame is William Reid of JAMC fame making an absolute arse of a solo "career".

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

my mum and dad listened to the Faryl album on spotify today. Sadly I think theyre going to buy it so they can play it in the car.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

My turn.

Who?

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Some opera singing kid from a tv program

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ah, I'll pass thanks :)

Turns out one hit wonder Lisa Loeb has loads of albums. Things you learn from huge google spreadsheets.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

They're still tagging all the MIA. stuff as M.I.A. - and presumably paying the wrong artist (unless the money goes to the record co).

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

some of the tagging is awful so it doesnt bring up the proper album pics on last.fm

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sun Kil Moon:
April spotify:album:6qeg3FR18R4rUsQjsHBugt
Ghosts Of The Great Highway spotify:album:5KUtu3Jyp5SKIEhJb8NzQ0
Ghosts Of The Great Highway + Bonus Tracks spotify:album:3gFMYvuhTeUXrVzj4mFX1F
Tiny Cities spotify:album:5FJntCmaKtDxThWzyRxQ1Z

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm just having a 'ah I don't actually have to get hold of all the stuff I got rid of or taped over when I went 'indie' again' evening, and listening to Dookie and the first RATM album and stuff and loads of it is tagged as -Album Version which is really annoying me. Also none of the decent (or at least, what I want to listen to) Offspring stuff's on there.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Is Kerplunk on there? I'd like to hear that again sometime. Never liked Offspring/nofx etc

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nup. Dookie actually didn't sound too bad, for 20 minutes or so. Great memories.
Uh, I just thought I'd listen to some NOFX and there's only an album I don't recognise, a tribute to NOFX and their contribution to a Misfits tribute, Last Caress, and I've always liked Metallica's version of that, so I played it for the 20 seconds it took them to not 'go ska', and then they went ska and it was horrible.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

NOFX were truly horrible. And responsible for all those bass players with goatees pulling faces in videos.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

And now I'm listening to the Damned (Offspring covered Smash it up for some reason in 95 or so) and I've just discovered where grimly presumably got his name from. I just assumed it was a state of mind!

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

NOFX were truly horrible. And responsible for all those bass players with goatees pulling faces in videos.

I'm just glad I never went through with getting dreads. Gawd, I was an awful 15 yr old.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Offspring covered Smash it up for some reason in 95 or so

lol Batman Forever soundtrack.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think Grimly took his name from the comic book character that preceded the Damned song (though he spells it the Damned way).

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/g/grimfien.htm

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

i thought it was because he resembled

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

I see.

What else can I learn tonight!

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

that onimo has a secret liking for all things goth?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Secret? I wear my sad old goth badge with pride!

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 2 April 2009 07:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

And now I'm listening to the Damned (Offspring covered Smash it up for some reason in 95 or so) and I've just discovered where grimly presumably got his name from. I just assumed it was a state of mind!

Actually, you're all wrong. I got it from The Founding of Evil Hold School by Nikolai Tolstoy (published 1968). Predates the Damned, obviously -- but not the comic strip (1964). So I think Mr Tolstoy must have been, umm, "inspired" by Leo Baxendale :)

Also, yeh, state of mind: that's about right. Usually.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 2 April 2009 07:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

lol at onimo on the spotify comments.

Is this -ALBUM VERSION tag thing new, as someone on the blog mentioned it as well. I'd never noticed it 'til last night, but then I hadn't listened to Green Day on it 'til last night.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 2 April 2009 13:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

lol at onimo on the spotify comments

HAHAHAH. Funny fucker :)

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

everybody's gotta troll somewhere

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

is that you lot just noticing?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

So much for solidarity :-(

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

also saw other posts from premium subscribers who dont want the price reduced.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 2 April 2009 14:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

What a stupid attitude. Who doesn't like saving money?

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

they presumably having already paid the fee want everyone else to have to pay the same price rather than getting it cheaper than they did.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

^ Exactly.

Fuck 'em, really.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've been an (ill3gal) downloader since 2000 but the concept of Spotify irks me somewhat, I just don't know why. For a start the PC I play music from that's plugged into my hi-fi isn't attached to the net so I wouldn't really be able to use it anyway, but I think it's something else.

Maybe it's because it seems too good to be true. If this catches on it means that the idea of a music collection will be considered ridiculous in only a few years. Having every song ever available to stream for free sounds great, but will it replace downloading and format sales once they work out a way to make the quality top-notch? If so does that mean the end of the mix-CD, the end of DJing, the end of using recorded music in a creative way? will it all turn into a big messy jelly of sound with no accounting for quality control whatsoever? I can't remember the last time I went to a friends house all excited because I have a new album to show them and in a way I blame downloading. Remember "What's this? I'll buy it on Monday!", I haven't thought about that since 2003. Yeah blah blah move with the times, but once the iPhone Spotify app comes out, that's it - the idea of having a music collection won't exist and it'll be a big hivemind mass of music.

Haven't signed up yet, then again and I haven't read this thread, but how exactly do artists/labels get money for this? Is it all down to pay-per-play? What will happen to artists like the Beatles who, let's face it, never appear on Spotify?

the next grozart, Thursday, 2 April 2009 15:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

yes basically spotify means your children will be raped in their beds and there's nothing you can do about it. it means the end of everything you hold dear.

Local Garda, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

^^speaker of hard truths

otm in new york (G00blar), Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

so, you've been downloading free music since 2000 but... the idea of free music irks you somewhat?

rio (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

yes but downloading free music was a hassle, this thing is too easy.

just sayin, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

Or maybe Spotify will simply mean the end of commodity fetishisation, and all we'll have left are our ears and our judgement?

mike t-diva, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

goodbye music collection hello playlist collection

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Goodbye groaning shelves of dead weight; hello gorgeous clear surfaces and aesthetic simplicity.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 2 April 2009 16:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

I haven't read this thread

Jesus ...

but how exactly do artists/labels get money for this? Is it all down to pay-per-play?

The bands you like don't get a penny. Instead they're forced into bonded labour as Roberta from Spotify's sex slaves. The bands you hate, meanwhile, are paid in swan, caviar and liquid gold.

What will happen to artists like the Beatles who, let's face it, never appear on Spotify?

Yeh, the Beatles? I imagine they're fucked. Don't think anyone will ever talk about them again.

As for everything else you say ... I'm sorry: your entire post is drivel, dude. What the fuck are you smoking?

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

it will be fvcked up if Spfy have to start paying PRS royalties per play tho. the only thing that seems to be stopping this at the mo is simply that the application isn't popular on the same scale as YouTube. ways around this would include making subscription mandatory ala emusic, or Google managing to win the battle on what they should pay PRS for providing majors with free ad space (sorry that just never gets old for me).

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

making subscription mandatory ala emusic

Hmm: I don't think that's a comparable model. eMusic maps to iTMS, if you like; the closest Spotify has is Last.fm ...

... who, of course, are now going to start charging all non-UK/US/German listeners for the radio service.

I'd agree that these might be Spotify's salad days, certainly :/

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

There will be no Spotify iPhone app, because Apple will never allow an app that relies on a direct server connection, rather than using a proprietary app. Or at least that's what a much-more-techy-than-me friend said to me.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also, it would be a potential iTunes killer, so why would they allow it?

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

are we still posting playlists or just being angry about spotify?

i made this http://open.spotify.com/user/numbers/playlist/5LTSxg1kNL2BeY3cZStqaU to try and convince some friends to join me at secret garden party in july

Slumpman, Thursday, 2 April 2009 21:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://lutt.se/lastfm+spotify+new/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 2 April 2009 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

nice

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 2 April 2009 22:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

pity it only does the top 5o from your last.fm but it's quite handy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 2 April 2009 22:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

f so does that mean the end of the mix-CD

Fuck a mix-CD. Killed off the mix-tape so it did. Isn't change horrible? An instantly shareable playlist just isn't the same!

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 2 April 2009 23:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Couple of Grouper albums added

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 6 April 2009 13:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nice, everything I've heard on Type is good. Also Morr and Monika stuff added for yer early 00s indietronica needs.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Monday, 6 April 2009 13:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

I like old time music too

vinyl, tapes, CDs - I like them all!

but maybe a happy way of seeing it is:
we appreciate them all more, now we have spotify, etc

I use spotify a lot, and iPod, and also enjoy the other things above (and even radio), maybe more than ever in a way

maybe it's All Good?

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2009 13:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

New PJ Harvey album is on there. I'd have thought record companies would wait a few months before giving new releases to Spotify, but no.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 6 April 2009 13:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

may not be legit

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Monday, 6 April 2009 13:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Jeez. I was listening to Iggy Pop's The Idiot on Spotify earlier. It was inturrupted halfway through by Iggy trying to sell me car insurance. Fuuuuck.

DavidM, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

rofl

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

He's not selling you insurance, he's selling you time!

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

The latest way to try make you subscribe - Preview streams of new albums.
If you're a premium user you can listen to the new Lady Sovereign on Spotify before official release date.

I definitely shall be staying on the free one :)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 10 April 2009 16:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

Is there an ILM playlist?

state of the world today, Friday, 10 April 2009 17:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

There's this spotify:user:raw_patrick:playlist:76IpHss348rO3mn7O15nU8

Do you know what really annoys me? You start Spotify, and think ah, I'll listen to an album. So you find, and it click play. After a couple of songs you think, I know what'll sound good after this album's finished, so you queue something else but because you didn't queue the first album you selected, it starts playing the second album after the current song's finished, and the your queue is full of the original artist's entire collection, which you can't delete or anything, (and because my monitor's a bit fucked these non-queued tracks are practically invisible). Am I just being really stupid? Is not queueing the first thing you listen to that much of a crime that I have to be punished in this way? Yeah, I should remember because I do this every day, but still. Maybe I should complain on their blog.

Also, Spotify not doing so well over here (so far at least) http://xrrf.blogspot.com/search/label/easter%20track%20smackdown

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

i just either wait until an albums finished then look for another or add albums to a playlist

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

MoHoBishOpi were utter bollocks. So any service that doesnt have them gets a +

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

iggy selling insurance advert on. ugh

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 11 April 2009 11:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

He's selling time!

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Saturday, 11 April 2009 13:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, I've had it pause randomly on occasion in the past, which I assumed to be a memory problem at my end, but now it's playing back and it sounds like a scratched cd, just jumping about loads. Anyone else noticed this?

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Saturday, 11 April 2009 15:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeh: I think it's a problem at peak times. There's some chat about it on the Get Satisfaction forums, if I remember rightly ... put it this way, I think it's 99.9% agreed to be a problem at their end.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 11 April 2009 16:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I assume subscribers get priority.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 11 April 2009 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm not so sure about that. There seemed to be a very egalitarian cluelessness when we were moaning at them about the OS X/scrobbling thing.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 11 April 2009 18:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

Anyone else not really bothered by the ads because they remind you a bit of listening to the car radio in GTA?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 12 April 2009 01:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

no,but ive never played GTA

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 12 April 2009 19:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

anyone got any good playlists?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 13 April 2009 14:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

have you seen the spotify playlist thread?

Genghis Khan and his brother Don (G00blar), Monday, 13 April 2009 15:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

well yeah but I dont know if any of those were of interest to me. The posters on this thread I'd say know my taste better so could recommend stuff.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 13 April 2009 17:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

I might make a funk playlist that everyone can add to, but there's no Funkadelic on it!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 13 April 2009 17:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

hey pfunkboy

good news! spotify have added some music by artists you've told us you love.

click on any of the titles to play in spotify (we're afraid some releases may not be available in your country yet though).
Growing

* All The Way (album)
* Lateral (album)
* The Social Club No 8 (single)

Earth

* Pentastar: In the Style of Demons (album)
* Phase III: Thrones and Dominions (album)

happy listening :)

from freshspotify

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

What annoys me so far: tagging of classical music. They're not alone in this, it just seems crazy that after XY years of tagged digital music the only universal model still seems to be artist + track title + album title. This means that some things are tagged with the composer as the artist, while others (the majority?) are tagged with the actual musician(s) performing, which is somewhat unhelpful when only browsing for stuff.

This is true for many music services btw, and most don't even seem to try to address this problem. Emusic is an exception I guess.

Or is there a workaround I'm missing?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 16 April 2009 12:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't think so.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

"especially in the bedroom"

Young Chizzy (country matters), Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

it's fun looking for pre-1920s techno on this thing

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 April 2009 16:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

like that 'mechanical music hall' comp?

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 April 2009 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

The new jingle is irritating. Also: what's it reminding me of/lifted from?

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

I went to a party recently and instead of DJs or hosts' own music collection being made available to soundtrack the getting drunk/good times, they just propped their laptop on a shelf, launched Spotify

After a while it got a bit stoopid with people cutting playing tracks short instead of queing them.

Still it's got enough to rock the house for an extended period

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

IIRC the new jingle sounds like the opening of "Diamonds and Pearls" by Prince.

Also annoyed about classical music tagging - especially on the radio part, which does not seem to allow scope for classical listening at all! Music didn' just suddenly t begin in the 20th century, guys...

Speaking of the radio: I like lots of 70s music, but the tags on the radio thing just suck... way too broad. Whatever configuration I try it just sounds like I'm getting the latest Ariel Pink album... I think they need some kind of Pandora tech, or at least a blacklist option (- "nooo, not Chicago AGAIN!")

The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

IIRC the new jingle sounds like the opening of "Diamonds and Pearls" by Prince

It's similar -- I queued up D&P and, by sheer luck, managed to get the jingle right before it -- but not identical ... it puts me in mind of some mildly cheesy, breezy seventies Americana, but maybe that's just the sign of a really good jingle.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 19:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

The whole of Earache's back catalogue has been uploaded today! I'm currently listening to Heartwork by Carcass!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 11:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

For some reason, I used to be able to follow direct links from ILX into the Spotify music, but now they're saying that because I'm in the US, I'm blocked. WTF? Was I just hitting accidental backdoors before?

THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure, I've always been blocked from the ILX links.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

i need spotify rehab, my soul is being destroyed

sorry for british (country matters), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 22:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

New Isis on spotify and an old Ulver album added

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 15:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Anything else new added?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 May 2009 23:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Nothing too exciting in today's spreadsheet, but there is this: http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/904190/Spotify-challenges-iTunes-unlimited-downloads/?DCMP=ILC-SEARCH

£10 a month for unlimited downloads. Hmm.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Friday, 8 May 2009 10:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

Realizing that once you can access this anywhere anytime anyway, whether it's stored on your own device or not is of little importance? (Actually, in this case it's a cost to download it, since it takes diskspace.)

This argument obv only works when seeing the user in isolation, since filesharing between users is what the conventional extra cost for download is about anyway. Or, it also works if everyone uses eg Spotify, since then filesharing is pointless, you just share links and playlists instead.

OK one final advantage of downloading to device: insurance for when the Net collapses.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 8 May 2009 10:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

(Also, I haven't followed thread too closely, what is this spreadsheet you mention?)

anatol_merklich, Friday, 8 May 2009 10:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

Every few days they post a link to a googledoc on their blog with the latest additions to the catalogue. http://www.spotify.com/blog/

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Friday, 8 May 2009 10:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

The other big advantage of downloading is being able to put it on a portable player though - mobile spotify seems to be on the way but I'm unlikely to be getting anything to take advantage of that for a while. My 1GB iRiver is fine for my needs and I've only just figured out how to get wap on my 4 year old mobile phone.

My first thought was 'I think £10 a month is a fair price to save me the bother of ripping my collection (started in February, currently stalled somewhere around the Chameleons), as long as the quality's good enough'. But at the moment I seem to only be listening to music through Spotify, getting my girlfriend's laptop out and plugging it into the stereo when I actually have cds and records sitting there. This is probably more to do with last.fm nerdiness though.

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Friday, 8 May 2009 10:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

The £10 a month for d/ls claim is bullshit btw.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 8 May 2009 10:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

ha, ok! saves worrying about that. (I've just noticed the writer of that piece has the same name as me. Just a coincidence.)

new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Friday, 8 May 2009 10:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

The other big advantage of downloading is being able to put it on a portable player though

Yeah, I was kinda projecting into the future when Spotify(-likes) are installed on everyone's phone anyway. (Feels somewhat inevitable to me.)

Thanks for blog/spreadsheet answer!

anatol_merklich, Friday, 8 May 2009 10:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Haha title of new Bob the Builder album: Appetite for Construction

anatol_merklich, Friday, 8 May 2009 11:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Right, have d/l Spotify.

Let's have a go...

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2009 11:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

> Yeah, I was kinda projecting into the future when Spotify(-likes) are installed on everyone's phone anyway. (Feels somewhat inevitable to me.)

at the risk of astroturfing (i spend my days monitoring and debugging this stuff) can i point out that the future is now (but, as gibson points out, unevenly distributed)

http://www.vodafonemusic.co.uk/products/musicstation.cfm
and, in the interests of impartiality, the nokia 'comes with music' thing - http://www.comeswithmusic.com/uk/

(in fact we did it the other way around - targeted mobiles first and only recently desktops)

koogs, Friday, 8 May 2009 11:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

> Haha title of new Bob the Builder album: Appetite for Construction

the previous one seems to be called 'Never Mind The Breeze Blocks'

koogs, Friday, 8 May 2009 11:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Right, have d/l Spotify.

Let's have a go...

― Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2009 11:07 (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Blimey, it's a bit good innit?

(I might not be around here much, until I got bored wit it.)

Mark G, Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

find anything good on it?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm revisiting "So Tough" St Etienne. Side 1 may be the most perfect album ever.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

album side ever, obv.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

this is awesome for being drunk with

sometimes you get to 2am on a friday and you just want to listen to a load of Dio shit, right fuckin now

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

you havent changed in 9 years ferg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

still, it keeps you off ebay and drunkenly buying rubbish ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

Lol at the 2am thing: "Wait! I suddenly realize I've never knowingly heard Queensrÿche"!

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 14 May 2009 12:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

My partner got drunk one night when I was away, and decided he really needed to hear some T.Rex. Then, presumably too drunk to work out where the Stop button was, he muted the volume and went to bed, leaving Spotify to play EVERYTHING in the search results queue, including the Ameritz karaoke versions. Result: seriously buggered last.fm stats. (Still, at least it wasn't bloody Wishbone bloody Ash again.)

mike t-diva, Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

just delete them

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

and then do the stats.

featuring Strawberry and the Shortcakes (Billy Dods), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

spodify

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

[dopey loathsome Innocent Smoothie voice]Everyone *loves* music![/dopey loathsome Innocent Smoothie voice]

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Nah, remove the asterisks. The emphasis is on "EVERYone". But you catch my drift.

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Think they aiming at the 'couples' (nearly typo'd Copuls there ha) who soundtrack lovin' with their laptops?

"I'M NOT PUTTIN YR OFF HERE AM I?"

Mark G, Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

The amount of adverts I get saying that they have adverts is ridiculous. Just fucking advertise to me, don't tell me you are going to advertise to me. It makes me feel bad that I only get like 1 advert a day (I have been caning spotify all day lately, with it being time to do all my coursework i'm glued to my pc) and think that the only difference between this and illegal downloading is the occasional prick saying hello to me. No-one be making money with 1 real advert a day (ok, 1 real advert every 4 hours or something.)

Also, after making playlists of like 100s of albums I would have never thought to listen to and have got addicted to, I'm tempted to make a thread like 'recommend great albums to listen to on spotify' type thing. (Well I would if I wasn't busy.) It seems like a perfect opportunity to dive headfirst into metal and classical etc. instead of my previous attempts to dip my toe in.

Call out (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 May 2009 19:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spotify isnt very good for metal (not the kind i like anyway)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well then I'm just gonna have to carry on listening to Minnie Riperton on repeat and forget all those rubbish neckbeards and loud geetars.

Call out (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 May 2009 20:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

It seems like a perfect opportunity to dive headfirst into metal.

Being pathologically metal-averse, I did actually try this with the ILM Best Metal Albums of 2008. Um, yes. Well, it was... interesting.

mike t-diva, Friday, 15 May 2009 09:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm not going *there*

Mark G, Friday, 15 May 2009 09:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Are Spotify users familiar with Grooveshark? Looks like a similar kind of thing, but with the focus on tracks rather than albums. It passes the Beatles and AC/DC test as well.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

t I only get like 1 advert a day

huh, i've been bombarded recently. 2 in a row quite often.

massive dynamic lady (ledge), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

however I haven't been using it that often so perhaps they tailor it so the more you listen the fewer adds you get.

massive dynamic lady (ledge), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

or ads.

massive dynamic lady (ledge), Friday, 15 May 2009 09:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can't believe that Grooveshark is legit if its got Beatles and AC/DC available.

featuring Strawberry and the Shortcakes (Billy Dods), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah how does grooveshark exist? that seems crazy

just sayin, Friday, 15 May 2009 10:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

It seems like a perfect opportunity to dive headfirst into metal.

Being pathologically metal-averse, I did actually try this with the ILM Best Metal Albums of 2008. Um, yes. Well, it was... interesting.

none of the good stuff from that poll is on Spotify. I think Earth was the only one unless stuff has been added since.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Lots of great older metal stuff is available though. Saint Vitus' first one, Born too Late has been a recent fave, and of course all ver Sabbs' stuff was put up recently.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

3rd

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

im lookin for good sites with spotify playlists

quietus made a few, not really great tough. except the john peel festive fifty series!

moullet, Friday, 15 May 2009 10:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

xp oops displaying my doom metal ignorance there!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Only one Campag Velocet song on Grooveshark = fail.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 15 May 2009 13:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

If music services stand or fall on the presence of Campag Velocet, then you're destined for disappointment.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 15 May 2009 14:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

if you subscribe there's no campag

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 15 May 2009 14:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

for years i have wondered re a couple of mile davis albums, but never felt brave enough (bitches brew/on the corner) to dive in.
this week having streamed the albums many times via spotify over the last couple of months, i bought them both.
business model proven + one happy 'customer'.

mark e, Friday, 15 May 2009 15:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Black Satin ftw.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 15 May 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

if you subscribe there's no campag

lol USP!

anatol_merklich, Friday, 15 May 2009 16:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

mark e: I did the same thing last week! albeit with buying sketches of spain. I then went on a huge playlist kick with any jazz album allmusic gave a review that intruiged me, meaning I have about 4000 rashaan roland kirk albums to listen to. When I actually start earning some actual monies, I'm gonna end up with a jazz collection large enough to open my own shop at this rate.

(Also ^^^^ this what I want to do with other genres I don't know but think I could love like metal, country and classical. And 'world' music. And avant-garde shiz. I also went on a huge reggae/dub/dancehall kick although I've not spent enough time actually listening to it.)

Call out (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 May 2009 18:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tiny niggles it is actually unfair to complain about because I'm using it for free anyway pt 14:

When the Spotify window is brought to the forefront, ads spring to life. I see why. But I'm already in the search field having typed three or four letters -- typing is then brought to halt with Windows boomp sound because focus moved to ad parts of window or something. Having then to mouse up to search field and click and type more.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 15 May 2009 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8052917.stm

Online music service Spotify is hoping to launch a mobile version and expand to the US by the end of the year.

The streaming service, which lets fans listen to more than three million tracks legally and for free, has gained more than a million users in the UK.

Speaking about the plan to go mobile, Spotify founder Daniel Ek said: "We want to be everywhere. We won't only do one device."

But fans would have to pay to put Spotify in their pockets, he revealed.

The web-based service is currently free to users who accept adverts between their songs. A subscription option, which costs £9.99 a month in the UK, banishes the ads.

Speaking at The Great Escape music conference in Brighton, Mr Ek said the mobile offering would only be available to subscribers.


My hope and ambition is that we'll see something at the end of the year, maybe the beginning of next year, in the US
Daniel Ek

"Portability is an important aspect, [as is] interoperability with other devices," he said.

"That's definitely something we think is a premium product that people are willing to pay for - being able to bring the music with you or being able to have it working on your stereo."

The company is working on an iPhone application, but also wants to make the service available on other handsets, he said.

"I definitely hope that it will be before the end of this year that we'll do something which allows people to bring the music with them."

As well as the UK and Sweden, where Spotify was created, the current service is also available in Norway, Finland, France and Spain.

It has become a huge hit with music lovers in the UK since launching in October, but the recession and resulting advertising downturn have slowed its global expansion plans, Mr Ek said.

Sound quality

But he added: "My hope and ambition is that we'll see something at the end of the year, maybe the beginning of next year, in the US."

The 25-year-old entrepreneur launched the company in an attempt to provide a legal alternative to unlicensed file-sharing services, where artists, record labels and music publishers do not receive royalties.

He has not revealed how many users have paid to subscribe. But more extras will be added to tempt people to sign up for the monthly fee, he said.

Those will include better sound quality, the ability to listen to new releases before they hit shops, more social networking features, exclusive tracks and behind-the-scenes material from big-name artists.

In other money-spinning schemes, T-shirts, concert tickets and vinyl will be sold to fans as they are listening to their favourite bands.

Last.fm deal

The company is also expected to announce a deal with fellow streaming site Last.fm to provide song recommendations, making it easier for fans to find acts they like.

"We definitely want to have music recommendation," Mr Ek said. "I'd love to work with someone like Last.fm and I think in a couple of days you'll see some sort of announcement. Something will happen."

But video streams are unlikely to appear in the near future, Mr Ek said.

"It's something that we've considered but we're focusing right now on the audio side, and we're focusing on generating revenues.

"At the moment there are other features that are higher up in the priority list, but it's definitely not something that we've excluded."

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 16 May 2009 14:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's something that we've considered but we're focusing right now on the audio side

Good thinking there, concentrate on doing what you are doing well well.

And wow I'd def pay up seriously for mobile spotifying.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 16 May 2009 14:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

This article from the Register casts a sceptical eye over the service:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/18/spotify/

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 21 May 2009 12:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

I read that with a pinch of "Orlowski is a massive tool" salt.

man saves ducklings from (ledge), Thursday, 21 May 2009 12:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Interesting to read that the record companies have at least a 30% stake in Spotify. I'm not sure that inspires much hope that the free version as it is will last much longer.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 21 May 2009 13:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

pretty dumb unconstructive article

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 21 May 2009 13:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's a fair point though that the business model appears to rely on being able to get money from people who want everything for free by giving them something for free. It's not encouraging me to spend money on music, though it's definitely cut down on my legally dubious downloading - I recently listened to a bunch of spotify stuff in anticipation of going to ATP then didn't buy any of it. I can't see the point (for a record co.) on cutting down/out piracy if it doesn't lead to more sales.

There's something illogical about the ad-selling thing too.

"Hi do you want to advertise on spotify? Give us $$$s and you'll have a million listeners!"
"Are those the same listeners you encourage to give you $$$s to avoid hearing my ads and possibly giving me $$$s?"
"Yes! How many shall I put you down for?"

I still think it will be a success if mobile takes off. Most people I've spoken to who use the free version would pay for an ad-free mobile version.

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Thursday, 21 May 2009 13:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

It does answer one question, though. How on earth are they paying all the royalties? They're not. They're giving equity stakes in lieu of them.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 21 May 2009 13:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

My dad asked me if next week I could help him learn how to download when I go see him and I said he would be better off just using something like spotify. Do you still need an invite to start using it though, (and how would I go about getting him one?)

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 14:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, I just went to the site and enrolled myself. So, no.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 14:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

this Nokia advert guy who comes on and says like "sorry to interrupt your free music" just sounds like he is dripping with contempt and resentment; I will kill him!

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm gonna cancel my subscription in protest at their awful artist and tracks labelling system. no more cash til that's sorted (or there's a last.fm facility to edit/merge such details).

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

xp Mr Free sounds like Zane Lowe to me? Anyway he's really blowing my mind with this concept of "free"!

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Any other free users getting increasingly bombarded with ads? I had a playlist running whilst painting the spare room for 5 hours today and rather than Nokia guy every 30 mins or so (which I was used to) am getting ads and adverts to advertise after every 3 tracks or so. I wonder if they are ramping this up to encourage people to pay the tenner a month for premium?

Bill A, Friday, 5 June 2009 16:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also, Mr Free def has a Zane Lowe twang, although could be Jason Donovan too. Given the cheapness of the ads otherwise though, more likely to be a Spotify employee (again).

Bill A, Friday, 5 June 2009 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

New Sonic Youth album is on Spotify

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 17:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol at idiots phoning in to Spotify voicemail service.

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 12:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

I lolled so hard I stumped up for Premium.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 12:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

am considering that option now

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 12:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

sorry if this is mentioned above (it's a huge thread!) but what bitrate are songs streamed at on spotify? and how does it allow songs to be played pretty much instantly, is it a bandwidth hog? (i've only seen it in action at a friends house, looks pretty good for older bigname stuff but up-to-the-minute modern stuff seems sparse)

NI, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

It surprises you with some of the modern stuff it has.

I think the bitrate is 160kbps and some version of Ogg Vorbis, making it equivalent to about 192kpbs.

Sounds great streamed through my stereo, anyway.

That doesn't make it much of a bandwidth hog. Bear in mind that it uses p2p to ease the load on their servers - by default it allocates 10% of your free HD space to a cache. So while it's running, you may well be giving over some of your upload capacity too.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've experienced next to no ill effects on other bandwidth-using apps from using Spotify. It actually feels very sleek and unintrusive in most respects. (Esp compared to the previous streaming service I used, MSN-branded and run by Nokia I think, which was a several-layer nightmare of glitches, random offloggings, rights-downloading etc etc.)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

It feels lightweight, in a good way, is what I'm trying to say there.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've only started using it over the last few days. The sound quality is excellent and it runs like a dream on my shitty 6 year-old home PC.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's like iTunes used to be before everything started weighing it down. It's wonderful to use. Could do with handful more features, but it's so slick. Compare it with the last.fm player!

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

You'd think it could remember my password for more than two logins though.

four and twenty blackbirds too weak to work (G00blar), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

they need to ditch this invite reminder thing. i have 18 left...

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's funny - it never forgets my password.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

never forgets mine either

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 13:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

huh - yeah it remembers mine for exactly one time after I check the box

four and twenty blackbirds too weak to work (G00blar), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I had that password problem for a long time. sorry I can't remember how I fixed it but there might be a faq on it or something

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'd suggest re-installing

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

you would

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

re-install THIS

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i gotcher spotify right here, bud

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

huh - yeah it remembers mine for exactly one time after I check the box

I get this on the PowerBook (PPC, 10.4) but not the iMac (Intel, 10.5). Can't really be arsed worrying about it.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 19:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's funny - it never forgets my password.

I'm glad it remembers mine, because I can't.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Is anyone else insanely bugged by how Spotify's scrollbars/ads are programmed specifically to FUCK YOU OFF? Like, click on right-hand scrollbar, it brings up an advert in the right-hand panel so that if you click again (e.g. you are scrolling and do not have a scrollwheel) you are clicking on the advert. Click on the bottom scrollbar or on the bottom arrow of the main scrollbar and it brings up an ad in the bottom panel, which you'll click on if you do it again.

But what really fucked me off on this occasion: have an ad at the bottom already? Click a couple of times on the non-ad space above it, and it replaces the ad with a new taller ad, which you are now clicking on!

...Nobody else?

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 21 June 2009 16:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

PS I know they've gotta get paid (or at least make some nods in that near-futile direction), but also, I've gotta be able to scroll without major UI irritation if I'm going to keep using their program. Or something?

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 21 June 2009 16:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm with you on this issue.

still counting on porcupine racetrack (G00blar), Sunday, 21 June 2009 16:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

hook a bro up?

"jesus on the cross seems like classic homoerotic imagery" (omar little), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

you cant, you're in the US

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Good luck USA!

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

srsly tho, why don't you have a scrollwheel?

stet, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm on a laptop and there is some kind of scroll-gesture on the trackpad which I am incapable of doing consistently. Ahem.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'll never buy anything from Suitopia.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 27 June 2009 22:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

No shit - and that is the only ad I hear, other than Spotify trying to sell advertising. I've no idea what their costs are, but if they are making 14p a month from each user then I cannot imagine the service can possibly be sustained for very long:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/25/spotify_exclusive/

I'm not trying to revel in schadenfreude over this; Spotify is the *only* streaming music service I use at all and in many ways it's superb. But I just cannot see how they make any money, or how they can possibly pay the licensing on the tracks from such a low income.

Bill A, Saturday, 27 June 2009 23:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spotify's demographic is around 40, and precisely the sort of impulsive media buyer defined by 50 Quid Bloke.

I didn't know Marcello used Spotify.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 June 2009 23:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

What on earth is wrong with suitopia guy's voice?

ledge, Sunday, 28 June 2009 20:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol at new suitopia ad being an apology for previous ad

i have actually heard two or three different ads on this now!

REALLY ANNOYING: if you turn the volume on ads down below 40% they pause until you turn back up
ANNOYING AND KIND OF CREEPY: if you mute sound in yr OS spotify recognises this and again pauses the ads

also, really, really, really bad hot compression - anything with an isolated drum hit really really hurts to listen to

thomp, Sunday, 28 June 2009 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

subscribers now get twice the bitrate quality btw

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Sunday, 28 June 2009 21:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think default compression is 160bkps

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Sunday, 28 June 2009 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

i mean range compression, it feels like some of that is going on. listening to music on spotify is more painful than listening to it via VLC player or similar. maybe it's me.

thomp, Sunday, 28 June 2009 21:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh wait, there's a 'volume normalisation' box to uncheck

thomp, Sunday, 28 June 2009 21:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

That chap on the ad singing David Watts is a champion tool, isn't he?

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

so now that I'm living in France I can use this thing, right? but I guess I need an invite? I filled out the form on spotify.com but is this like gmail where someone who's already using the service can invite others? and if so, would someone here invite me?

la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

you should be good to go sans invitation

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok cool

la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

looooooool if you turn the volume right down during an advert, the advert pauses XD

thank you, flipper, for nickelback (country matters), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 12:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

I went premium last month. Worth every penny. And you now get 320k streaming.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's odd. so are they compressing the files as they stream them? or do they have both 320/160 versions stored somewhere?

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

if the area next to my hifi wasn't some sort of black spot for our wireless connection i'd def sign up for premium @ 320kbps.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

also spotify has done wonders for the middle8haters/30secADD/girl talk fans. i'd love stats on what percentage of each song is played in full.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

re: the 320kb streaming, could you feasibly record the stream from your computers soundcard and save each track as a 320 mp3? would it be perfect quality or would it degrade somehow?

NI, Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

it would degrade but not significantly. i'd probably re-encode it lower anyway as it doesn't seem worth having at 320 if it's not prime source.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

seriously, this application makes my ears hurt

thomp, Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

nice to see they had the jazz composers' orchestra record on there tho

thomp, Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

how would it degrade, is it just something the pc soundcard does and you can't avoid? the end result would be better than a 128 wouldn't it?

NI, Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

The most tiny of tiny gripes (that still gets to me sometimes): The song progress bar at the bottom is sensitive far outside of the actual knob-moves-in-slot area. Thus, when only the bottom of the Spotify window is visible behind the bottom of another window on my screen, and I click on it to bring Spotify to the foreground, I usually accidentally skip to somewhere else in the track.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

how would it degrade, is it just something the pc soundcard does and you can't avoid? the end result would be better than a 128 wouldn't it?

it's like taking a screen grab of a hi-res jpeg and re-saving that. it won't match the quality of the original source because any compression process (based on already compressed material) never can, but it would probably be equivalent to 256 ie not a big deal.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 July 2009 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes. Though it would obv depend on how the rippage occurs. The thing is that soundcard-ripping is probably already one decompress-compress removed from what was sent to the computer. (Also, sounds from other computer activity -- email alerts etc -- will/may then also enter.) However, I've never really understood why it is not easy to simply intercept the received bitstream and just save that? Proprietary formats instead of eg mp3?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 16 July 2009 22:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

would say why record anything from spotify anyway? doubt there's much on there you couldn't get off slsk (latest version), often quicker

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 July 2009 22:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is the Big Thing -- perceived cost of disk space, cheap as it is, will go below perceived insurance cost of "omg what if ubiquitous net disappears!?" very soon. Ie: why hoard musics when you can just summon them from the cloud?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 16 July 2009 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

> would say why record anything from spotify anyway? doubt there's much on there you couldn't get off slsk (latest version), often quicker

or you could, y'know, *buy* some cds...

koogs, Friday, 17 July 2009 07:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

no they suck

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 17 July 2009 07:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

better than mp3s

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 17 July 2009 09:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

why hoard musics when you can just summon them from the cloud?

yes - this is what Spotify does so well which is why the whole question of people laboriously ripping songs through either the soundcard or a program like AudioHijack is moot - if Spotify works as it should, it makes that activity feel like pointless time-wasting from the get-go

i just feel like it should have been ASCAP or PRS who came up with this, since Spotify is essentially a monthly license fee to listen to music

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 July 2009 09:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, reason i ask is for sampling/re-editing purposes, not just for casual listening. and as good as ssk is, it's hard to find songs in decent quality, especially 50s + 60s (and most pre-00s even). plus having to wait 3 days for ssk's crappy wishlist function to come up with a song vs spotify + 3 clicks (record/stop/save)

NI, Friday, 17 July 2009 10:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

i don't actually use spotify at the moment btw, just curious if it's any use for the above. is there any chance of a particular label suddenly deciding to remove all their material from the service?

NI, Friday, 17 July 2009 10:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes there is, i believe a few have done it

i'm guessing you use a PC (since mac ssk doesn't have wishlist) but Audio Hijack for Mac is pretty fabulous at ripping whatever from wherever, as long as it's going through your computer, and there's little to no real degradation, though my ears are very tolerant

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 July 2009 10:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tracer Hand, don't you live in France or somewhere? You can probably get Spotify there - I think they call it "Le Spotify".

It's been great for educating me about solo McCartney lately, but the adverts have become more and more frequent, and largely irritating. Ads for Spotify, call Spotify, If I Ruled The World and other mobile-phone BS, Alcohol: Know Your Limits by some tosser girl whom you want to disobey because of her horrible voice. It is all starting to make me think of subscribing.

Or is there something good about the horrible adverts, as a form of punctuation, or mortification?

the pinefox, Friday, 17 July 2009 11:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

if Spotify works as it should, it makes that activity feel like pointless time-wasting from the get-go

i did use spotify to record some sound effects type stuff tho (crowd sounds etc.)

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Friday, 17 July 2009 23:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the creative use rather than listening, that I get. Didn't think of that, because it's not a thing I do.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 17 July 2009 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

from a listening point of view, the fact that some labels are actively taking down their music worries me too. as it gets bigger this could become common and doesn't make it much of a comprehensive 'cloud'.

thanks for the Audio Hijack tip, TH. i've got a mac as well so i'll get it for that. isn't there a pc equivalent? are soundcard rips done on a pc somehow worse quality than a mac?

brings me to another question for which i've never been able to get a satisfactory answer. if i take a 192kbps mp3 and stick it in soundforge then save it again as a 192kbps mp3, is the resulting mp3's bitrate the same as the first or are we losing quality somehow, like when you photocopy an image over and over? i'm guessing not, because it's a digital process and surely all the frequencies that a 192kbps mp3 deals with will be transferred over in full to a 2nd gen copy. do we have any pro sound guys on ilx who can answer this?

NI, Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

from a listening point of view, the fact that some labels are actively taking down their music worries me too. as it gets bigger this could become common and doesn't make it much of a comprehensive 'cloud'

Ach, I don't think so. I read something the other day -- if I wasn't about to head out the door I'd look for it -- suggesting that, thanks to streaming music services (not just Spotify but also YouTube), "the kids" are now turning their backs on illegal downloading and just listening to shit off the net as and when they want to hear it. (Yes, I know YouTube isn't exactly a paragon of copyright laws, but hey.) I assume most labels see Spotify as a medium- to long-term deal: it might not be making them cash at the moment but it's something they can probably turn to their advantage a damn sight more easily in the future than they could -- say -- Torrents.

Of course, the music industry is also renowned for being fucking cretinous, so I could be way off the mark there.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 18 July 2009 16:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

do we have any pro sound guys on ilx who can answer this?

the mp3 gets decoded on open & lossily re-encoded on save so yes there's a quality loss. Same process as with editing JPEG pictures btw.

Siegbran, Saturday, 18 July 2009 16:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, can see why spotify is more appealing to the music industry than torrents/p2p. youtube had the whole thing with labels taking down their music videos though, it seems it's still a delicate balance, for now.

thanks siegbran, can you link to any articles/studies about this? how great is the loss each time, and what's the best way around it? ie. save each subsequent file at 320 or wav? is it the case that re-saving a 192 mp3 x number of times would result in an mp3 of nothing more than white noise?

NI, Saturday, 18 July 2009 16:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

This is a game-changer. If they had this in the US, I would definitely pay for it.

kshighway, Monday, 27 July 2009 15:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

There will be no Spotify iPhone app, because Apple will never allow an app that relies on a direct server connection, rather than using a proprietary app. Or at least that's what a much-more-techy-than-me friend said to me.

― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, April 2, 2009 1:33 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

http://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/07/27/spotify-for-iphone/

kshighway, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's still not publicly available, is it? I wouldn't put it past Apple to raise some kind of last-minute objection.

They'd be crazy, but ...

grimly fiendish, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

After having the ad drilled into me all day yesterday, I have now registered as a blood donor and booked an appointment for tomorrow lunchtime.

I WILL save premature baby Anna.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Good work Spotify.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

fuck that, i'm still after a suitopia suit

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

p.s fuck you, adam from spoddify

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm having second thoughts about my 'no fosters ever under any circumstances' policy

One idiot even called me "redcoat" because I'm (country matters), Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

that is a barefaced lie btw

One idiot even called me "redcoat" because I'm (country matters), Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Actually, if Apple approve this then this is solid gold marketing strategy from Spotify. Previously a subscription was nice but utterly inessential, but if you need to subscribe to use the mobile app then suddenly there's a revenue stream, potentially a huge one.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

to celebrate Apple letting them in they ought to drop the sub rate by a couple of quid

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm sure that'll happen

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'm not

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tiered home/mobile/both subscriptions would make sense.

Hypnagogic Poop (onimo), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

how great is the loss each time, and what's the best way around it? ie. save each subsequent file at 320 or wav? is it the case that re-saving a 192 mp3 x number of times would result in an mp3 of nothing more than white noise?

I suspect, though I'm not sure, that when you open an MP3 in SoundForge or Audacity or Adobe Audition (is that what they call CoolEdit now? You can see I'm five years behind the times), you're not editing the MP3 as such. The application has effectively "unpacked" it into something it can edit, so there's a something akin to raw 16/44.1k (or whatever the application is set to) PCM audio in its memory (though the audio still has the lossy frequency profile of the original MP3).

You save this back out as an MP3 and its quality is dependent on (i) the quality of the original (i.e., it can't exceed it) and (ii) the quality of the software's MP3 encoder (which may be inferior to whatever application originally created the file).

I may be wrong about this but I think repeatedly editing MP3s doesn't eventually degrade them to mush, but rather you're just imposing the quality of the editing software's encoder on the file each time. Safest way is, indeed, to write out as WAV and only compress to MP3 as your final step. (In photo processing software, you're effectively going JPEG > TIFF > JPEG).

Michael Jones, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

These fuckers seem to be advertising to me after every 1 or 2 songs now, it's fucking ridiculous. I could understand it when it was a long jazz piece or whatever, but now I just want to murder them.

Seven Swagurai (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

does the frequency of ads depend on when you sign on? it definitely seems to vary

thomp, Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

> The application has effectively "unpacked" it into something it can edit, so there's a something akin to raw 16/44.1k (or whatever the application is set to) PCM audio in its memory (though the audio still has the lossy frequency profile of the original MP3).

typically they use floating point internally. (so there's another loss of precision there...)

but generally if you have something that's 99% perfect and re-encode it you'll have something that's 99% * 99% perfect = 98.01% perfect. keep doing that and it soon drops. it's largely a case of where your acceptability threshold is.

koogs, Friday, 31 July 2009 09:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

These fuckers seem to be advertising to me after every 1 or 2 songs now, it's fucking ridiculous.

Yeah, the ads have increased, definitely. I was listening last night and adverts came after one song then another after a further two songs then three. I don't know if it goes on like that, or is always like that but fuck. It's particularly annoying when your listening is inturrupted just for an ad about Spotify itself.

DavidM, Friday, 31 July 2009 16:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's still not publicly available, is it? I wouldn't put it past Apple to raise some kind of last-minute objection.

They'd be crazy, but ...

― grimly fiendish, Monday, July 27, 2009 12:17 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

Apple has been denying shit left and right. They just rejected the Google Voice app.

kshighway, Friday, 31 July 2009 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

man I saw her naked man...NNNGH

hello you are very gnocchi i would like taco you in the (country matters), Monday, 3 August 2009 18:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes, if you slept with her it kinda follows that you saw her naked you fucking retard

hello you are very gnocchi i would like taco you in the (country matters), Monday, 3 August 2009 18:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

public information announcements: not what they were

hello you are very gnocchi i would like taco you in the (country matters), Monday, 3 August 2009 18:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

If anyone uses foxytunes on firefox it now has spotify support now.
http://blog.foxytunes.net/2009/07/08/foxytunes-supports-spotify/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 19:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

700 year old gripe or something, annoyance may mostly be from other apps:

when I in Windows click the X in the upper right corner of a window, it means KILL. Not SLEEP IN A TRAY REQUIRING MORE EFFORT TO KILL.

Apart from that, well happy with the Spotify tbh.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 22:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

and apparently now the richest man in asia (li ka-shing) has invested 50 million dollars in spotify. in other words, this thing probably isn't going away...

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 00:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Thanks, Crucialmemory.com!

The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 08:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

hate that cunt that leaves the voicemail message saying "it's great but i can't put them on my ipod"

NO GUFF, YOU DUMB CUNT.
"I like the look of all the houses in my street but hey, how come I can't just walk into any one of them and make myself at home? This blows!"

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 09:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Apple refuses the Spotify iPhone app.

James Mitchell, Monday, 17 August 2009 14:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, the article you linked doesn't seem to say that (I can only read the translation into English you used; I don't read Swedish). It just says that Apple is taking a long time to accept it, and that this suggests a problem. Or did I miss something?

afternoon "delight" (Euler), Monday, 17 August 2009 14:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

For Spotify probably ended up in a "sour cream" for specific test rather than the usual sex.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

firestorm of twat rage (onimo), Monday, 17 August 2009 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok what the fuck is this kate moss advert

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

whistling cunt advert is allover tv now

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

ah jesus that tune is annoying

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

this video contains point of view
this video contains point of view
this video contains point of view
this video contains point of view

someone's either seen nathan barley or needs to

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can someone send me an invite please?

send a hilarious message or make a "wild" statement (Whitey on the Moon), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 19:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't think you need an invite - but you do need to be in Europe

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 19:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://proxify.co.uk works for Ireland (not officially available here yet)

p-dog, Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm in America :(

send a hilarious message or make a "wild" statement (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 27 August 2009 09:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

I invite you to Europe

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Thursday, 27 August 2009 09:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

new spotify pet hate — well, music advertising in general pet hate — playing five seconds of that's not my name before announcer is all "THIS dramaticpause IS THE TING TINGS!" — while you're collecting data on my listening habits how about you work out I KNOW THAT ALREADY

thomp, Thursday, 27 August 2009 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

i am very angry about having free music!

thomp, Thursday, 27 August 2009 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

can't be very good if they're giving it away

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 27 August 2009 16:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

how do you search for specific labels?

b hoy hoy (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 27 August 2009 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spotify app approved for iPhone

Bob Six, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yikes.

Alba, Thursday, 27 August 2009 21:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hallelujah!!!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

how do you search for specific labels?

Put label:labelname in the search box, with quotes around it if it's more than one word.

is Wii your mom or somethin (onimo), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

find spotify a bit of an anti-climax, like i was really excited by it when i first downloaded it now i only use it to play "if you wanna be happy" by jimmy soul when i get drunk.

123456789 (jim), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

I wondered why the last 3000 tracks on your last.fm was that song.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

spotify for iphone not tht big a deal in practice tho - it'll chew batteries

cozwn, Friday, 28 August 2009 01:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ya.

Spotify has turned my whole listening behaviour upside down. From using iTunes almost exclusively for my music, I now use Spotify 90% of the time (on my iPod I tend to listen to podcasts, not music). Maybe I"m just bored with my iTunes Library (and the effort that goes in to updating it), but Spotify is the path of least resistance for me.

Alba, Friday, 28 August 2009 06:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Will it chew batteries even with cached playlists and so forth?

Presumably they'll roll out versions for Blackberries/other smartphones now? Or have Apple snagged them into some kind of exclusivity thing?

Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Friday, 28 August 2009 08:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

My excitement centres around being able to use Spotify in the office, as audio streaming is streng verboten around these parts. So battery life isn't a major issue.

mike t-diva, Friday, 28 August 2009 09:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Presumably they'll roll out versions for Blackberries/other smartphones now? Or have Apple snagged them into some kind of exclusivity thing?

― Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Friday, 28 August 2009 08:55 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

I had been wondering why there's never been any talk of Spotify on any other phones. I can't see exclusivity though. I hope.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 28 August 2009 09:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

If there's enough of a market and money there, they might look into it. The iPhone is just now a no-brainer for developing apps, especially of the streaming media type, because of market share and enthusiasm. As far as Apple's concerned, they're a competitor of sorts and it was questionable whether they were going to get approved when the app store review process is such a black box.

mh, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

I thought I read about some Spotify/Android thing going?

anatol_merklich, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah - at the end of the BBC story linked to above.

Alba, Saturday, 29 August 2009 09:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know anything more concrete about what the finances of this are like for artists? The only thing I've seen is this Guardian article, which seems to suggest they're pretty bad:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/aug/17/major-labels-spotify

Have any other major (or even minor) artists had their catalogues pulled?

toby, Saturday, 29 August 2009 11:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

In Sweden, where Spotify has been running the longest, Magnus Uggla – well-established since the late 70s – has withdrawn his music from the service. On his blog he said that, after six months on the site he'd earned "what a mediocre busker could earn in a day". Regarding his record label, Sony Music, he says "after suing the shit out of Pirate Bay, they're acting just like them by not paying the artists". When he found out that Sony had 5.8% equity in Spotify he wrote: "I would rather be raped by Pirate Bay than fucked up the ass by (Sony boss) Hasse Breitholtz and Sony Music and will remove all of my songs from Spotify pending an honest service."

thomp, Saturday, 29 August 2009 11:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

I was told by a guy who considered investing in Spotify to a significant level, and who therefore took a look at the books, that the company makes fourteen pence per user, per year and his prediction was that they'd be dead before the end of this year. That was before the iphone deal but I'm not sure whether he considers them any more viable an entity subsequently.

The problem it seems to me, and this may have been mentioned, is that the adverts aren't intrusively frequent enough to steer the user toward the subscription version. I guess it's a tricky balance but it seems to me if they had more adverts they'd generate more revenue from both versions of the program.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Saturday, 29 August 2009 11:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know offhand how long they've been offering the subscription model?

thomp, Saturday, 29 August 2009 12:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes to the above, and in my month or so of using it I've gotten mostly ads for Spotify itself. That can't be good for their bottom line.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

i sometimes get 2 ads every 3 songs so im guessing the longer you use it the more ads you get, but for newbies they dont overdo the ads incase it puts them off.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

It probably varies by country, too.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

surely the majors would step in and save it from collapse given they're now in on it plus the supposed piracy deterrence (depends how much value they put on that i guess)

unban dictionary (blueski), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Free streaming at 160 seems like a miscalculation on their part, because 160 is fine enough for me to make subscribing unnecessary. If they streamed at YouTube rates, then maybe 10 euros a month would be worth it to me. I can't see how this is sustainable in its present (excellent) form.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Got very few ads to begin with, sometimes whole albums would go by with no ads. But now I get a couple every 2 or 3 tracks so obviously they've got some algorithm that increases them the more you use the service. May well be a good strategy since I'm now contemplating subscribing although I still think £10 is too much, at £5 I would have already done it.

I'm told by someone who knows a Spotify insider that the plan is to make it subscription only next year.

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

maybe Apple will just buy it

unban dictionary (blueski), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

it does seem that a lot of people would pay half the current rate for same bitrate but just no ads - seems a reasonably happy medium

unban dictionary (blueski), Saturday, 29 August 2009 13:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Are they making enough noise about the Premium bitrate? I'm an uber-fussy audiophile, and yet Premium through the hi-fi sounds indistinguishable from CD.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 29 August 2009 14:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

I mean, that's how I'd advertise it: to compete directly with the concept of buying and owning CDs, pointing out the value and convenience aspects.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 29 August 2009 14:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

I was told by a guy who considered investing in Spotify to a significant level, and who therefore took a look at the books, that the company makes fourteen pence per user, per year and his prediction was that they'd be dead before the end of this year.

― N1ck (Upt0eleven), Saturday, 29 August 2009 12:58 (2 hours ago) Bookmark

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/25/spotify_exclusive/

think he got the numbers wrong: 14p per month per user from ads. that's dwarfed by the earnings from premium subscribers, obviously. sounds like they're on course for £2.3m revenue in a year from uk users. averages out at £14 per user per year, but obviously there's a massive disparity between free and premium subscribers. i assume they're going to keep the free option attractive until they've got many more people signed up - 170,000 in the uk is still tiny - and then gradually shift people over to the pay model. (which is a bit like the "?" step that comes before "profit!" admittedly)

joe, Saturday, 29 August 2009 15:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

One strategy would be to start shifting new songs (say, within 6 months of release date) to subscription-only, and keep back catalog free. I think they do this now with pre-release material? I doubt this would be enough incentive for me, though. Or some albums/acts/labels could become pay-only. That would help the gradual shift of people to the pay model.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Saturday, 29 August 2009 15:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Only 17,000 paying users inthe UK? That really is tiny.

The figure I'd love to see is how much the artist gets per play. Did the similar figures for Emusic ever become public?

toby, Saturday, 29 August 2009 16:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

so if i sign up in the uk, will it still work when i head back to the usa?

akaky akakievich, Sunday, 30 August 2009 10:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

No...I'm a UK subscriber, and I couldn't get it to work when I visited the US earlier this month.

Bob Six, Sunday, 30 August 2009 10:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

it should work if you're a premium subscriber:

When I try to login it says that my current country does not match my profile?
When you login Spotify checks the internet protocol (IP) address that you use to connect to the internet and compares it to the country you set in your profile when you registered. If they do not match and you are away from your home country more than 14 days you will not be able to log in. If you have moved we suggest you change the country in your profile, as long as you have moved to one of our other launch countries. If you travel extensively you can purchase a premium subscription for unlimited travel. In some cases this error can occur by mistake if you use Spotify at work as many companies route their traffic through other countries therefore you appear to be abroad. If you’re at work and have this problem you can solve it by logging in to your Spotify account at home once and awhile.

joe, Sunday, 30 August 2009 12:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

It worked for me in France last month.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 30 August 2009 13:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh great, just what we needed, a talk to frank advert with the sound of someone puking.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

talk to frank advert every 2 songs now. 6 tracks played 3 bloody adverts.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

and again 2 tracks later (a couple of them were 2 adverts btw)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Re "Premium indistinguishable from CD"... having just plugged the laptop into the REALLY GOOD hi-fi, I take it all back. Limitations duly exposed.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

I found the ads easily annoying enough to warrant spending £10 a month. £10! That's nothing. Or maybe I'm hopelessly out of touch with Breadline Britain.

Alba, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 20:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

If you've got the stereo cranked those ads are very, very off-putting..

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

these ads are much more regular than they used to be. really annoying. which is exactly how they should be if they're going to persuade me to pony up a tenner a month.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 22:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

When we introduced the sharing feature, a lot of you requested a simple way of sharing the music you are listening to on Twitter. With Spotify 0.3.19, you can.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 3 September 2009 12:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://pansentient.com/2009/08/spotify-fm-new-last-fm-mashup/

There are several mashup apps that help you find new releases on Spotify based on your listening habits scrobbled to Last.fm (here’s the complete list). The newest and possibly the best yet is Spotify.fm from developer Frank Quist. Spotify.fm includes several unique features you won’t find elsewhere, such as an RSS feed and the ability to search new releases based on both your Last.fm username or genre.

Spotify.fm lists the most recent releases (going back 6 months) from your favourite artists. Enter your Last.fm username to display a list sorted by date released on Spotify then by artist:

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 3 September 2009 12:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://www.frankquist.nl/spotifyfm/

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 3 September 2009 13:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

spotify is proving kind of a boon in the workplace.

thomp, Friday, 4 September 2009 09:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

What gives? I see that "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", "Technical Ecstasy" and "Never Say Die" among others have suddenly disappared from the Sabs page. A temporary blip?! The beginning of the end?!

p.s. Technical Ecstacy = Criminally Underrated. Don't let the cover put you off!

The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Saturday, 5 September 2009 22:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

They added 45,000 albums in August so I don't think a couple of Sabbath albums disappearing is the beginning of the end, and there are still about 15 Sabbath albums available.

I like the Technical Ecstacy cover!

Hi, Super Nintendo Chalmers! (onimo), Sunday, 6 September 2009 09:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

They're deliberately making those adds worse and worse to get you to pay for the thing aren't they? Might be getting near some sort of tipping point for me here anyhow.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Sunday, 6 September 2009 11:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

I thoroughly enjoy those brilliant adverts.

the cunt from the hilarious "spotify" adverts (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 11:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

C*nt!

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Sunday, 6 September 2009 11:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

Actually by "enjoy" I mean "would like to stab the star in the throat".

the cunt from the hilarious "spotify" adverts (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 11:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

Noodle Vague voiced "Whitey" in those adverts.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 6 September 2009 12:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

maybe Apple will just buy it

Stevem OTM. I'm starting the rumour that Apple announces the Spotify app on Wednesday and it'll come bundled on the new iPods. And the small print will say something about Apple taking a stake in the company.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 6 September 2009 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Maybe not (I am dum):

Today we’re really excited to announce that Spotify is available to our premium subscribers for the iPhone, iPod Touch and Android platforms. The Spotify app is downloadable in both Apple’s App Store and the Android Market.

We’ve worked hard to bring you the same great Spotify experience you’re already familiar with to your phone. The mobile apps will allow you to take the entire Spotify catalogue and put it in your pocket. You can use our ‘offline mode’ to make playlists available at all times, even when no connection is available, perfect for that ride on the tube or long flight across the Atlantic.

https://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/09/06/spotify-mobile/

James Mitchell, Sunday, 6 September 2009 23:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Haven't tried downloading anything to the phone yet, but it takes about five seconds to start playing a song when streaming it over T-Mobile 3G and there's none of that buffering like in the Last.fm mobile player.

Using the Android version, by the way.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 6 September 2009 23:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spotify is set to offer offline versions of its playlists to PC users as well as those on mobile phones. Apparently.

James Mitchell, Monday, 7 September 2009 11:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

not 100 per cent sure that blog is interpreting the t&cs correctly: spotify has always cached songs to speed up the streaming (you're also uploading tracks to other users, peer-to-peer style). so it might just mean you can use spotify on up to three machines as a premium user.

joe, Monday, 7 September 2009 11:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Huge update today with another 189,000 tracks added. Skimmed through the google doc http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tuLYLenoNqBWfhds8qaoXDg&output=html, Jeepster's back catalogue is up with Belle and Sebastian up to full strength, The deluxe editions of Radiohead's last EMI albums are up. What looks moist interesting is a lot of vintage stuff from 'The Orchard' including Brylcreemed Boys & Beehived Birds (Part 1), Bollywood - Before the Slumdog Millionaire Years, Virginia Rocks! The History of Rockabilly In The Commonwealth and African Folk Music of the 1920s.

Old Man of Hoy-ho Silver Lining (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 18:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Signed up last week. Just started getting ads today, but they're not so bad...yet.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 20:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

Interesting bit of comment about Spotify DRM and mobile data usage.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 08:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

hahaha did anyone else get the advert for 2666 yet?

thomp, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 15:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've only listened to the first cd, but that Virginia Rocks! History of Rockabilly is nigh-on flawless. Quite wonderful.

http://open.spotify.com/album/27c6YY7NTdr1aJpHf2SdL4

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

Using Dan Black AND Dan Le Sac & Scroobius Pip to advertise Oxfam is kind of making me want to pipebomb my local charity shop.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

can't hear you, too busy committing my body to corporate science

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 11:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

This is good - http://spotifitunes.com

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 13:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

I rather like this — 'R&B from Doo-Wop to Hip-Hop': http://open.spotify.com/album/4he7R24eqd1EbF9kegiAK8

Bonus — guaranteed to annoy absolutely everyone in the average office at some point!

thomp, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think this will be the carrot which makes me sign up for a premium subscription, http://www.spotify.com/blog/archives/2009/10/01/spotify-goes-offline/

Terminator Eggs (Billy Dods), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

'Love vs Money' finally on this

modescalator (blueski), Friday, 2 October 2009 11:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

i keep getting this shit when i load it up even though i am connected to the internet

and songs keep just stopping halfway through for no reason. if it weren't so free and easy, i'd be starting to really get fucked off with spotify.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 October 2009 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

I kept getting some error message earlier where i had to restart spotify

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

There's been a lot of this kind of shit reported on the Spotify forums ... the Mac client had become unusable for some, and painfully slow to log on for others, but I know Linux and Windows users have been getting grief too. In fairness to Spotify, I think they've fixed the Mac issues: their customer service is actually exceptional, but obviously it requires everyone who's having problems to actually let them know.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 11 October 2009 11:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard this? http://open.spotify.com/album/7MHKYRlQH5GD2DFPSHKIEv

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

the whole series is on spotify

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Here is a list of the entire series http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/label/Buzzola/a/Buzzola

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

18 vintage songs about sex. Track Listing of songs: Ride Daddy Ride; I Want a Bowlegged Woman; It Ain't the Meat It's the Motion; You Put It in, I'll Take It Out; Sweet Honey Hole; Doodle Hole; Poon Tang; Let Me Roll Your Lemon; Good Jelly Blues; It Must Be Jelly 'Cos You Know Jam Don't Shake; I Had to Give up Gym; Mule Get up in the Alley; Let Me Ride in Your Little Automobile; Baby Let's Go Down to the Woods; Move Your Hand Baby; Sit Right on It; She Kept on Sittin' on It All the Time; Hucklebuck Baby;

that is filthy for 2009 nevermind 1927-53

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

Is nobody else here getting the CD-like skipping (not like buffering..) on every track played via Spotify 3,4 or 5 times each now?

fndgo, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not me. I had it a few times months ago but not recently. Must only be certain albums?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

only if I've suddenly become the unluckiest picker of spotify albums ever.

am dual booting and pretty sure I've been getting this on both XP and Win7 so suspect it's something to do with the last upgrade (I get the "offline" pause above too, although it usually clears, but takes a good minute to snap into online mode)

fndgo, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I've been getting that fndgo. Think they are just messing with it to encourage people to pay up tbh.

Do those rekkids sound as cool as they look?

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

I do like that Hitler and Hell track.

GamalielRatsey, Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

I listened to Space Guitar & Deathray Boogie - Vintage Science Fiction Songs 1926-1952 CD, Diabolical Hoodoo: Vintage Songs of Devilry, Doom & Hellfire 1920-1952. and I'm listening to Kickin' Hitler's Butt: Vintage Anti-Fascist Songs 1940-1944 which has woody guthrie,leadbelly etc on it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'll give the Deathray Boogie a go before bedtime then :)

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

what did you think?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 12 October 2009 12:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

for the last few months i have used spotify excuslively to check out jazz music that i need to hear before i buy : mile davis, stan kenton, wayne shorter etc.
so why is it today when i log in the list of artists that spotify thinks i may like is : soft cell, the lilac time, squeeze, the beautiful south, orange juice, and the blue mile !?

mark e, Monday, 12 October 2009 12:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

"doodle hole"?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 October 2009 13:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Science Fiction one was v. interesting. It was not anything like what I normally listen to, so I can't say if it is good or not but I certainly enjoyed it and wouldn't mind hearing more like it. Internet age kind of sucks trying to hear everything I actually want to, and not in a cuntish 'oh yeah, i once listened to 5 minutes of that so i can have an opinion on it because i'm a massive prick' kind of way. (That said internet age keeping my listening habits cheap, so <3.)

Sam complains about spotify adverts #43: Never, never ever, never ever never ever gonna be scared by a movie called TRIANGLE. Even if you do say it in that LOUD AND SUPPOSED TO BE SCARY BUT KIND OF SILLY voice. TRIANGLE. It is an instrument even more useless than cowbell.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 October 2009 19:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

Your mind would be blown if you ever saw the early 80s BBC soap Triangle.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 12 October 2009 19:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Just added:

Kraftwerk

* Autobahn (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* Computer World (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* Radio-Activity (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* Techno Pop (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* The Man Machine (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* The Mix (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* Tour De France (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)
* Trans Europe Express (2009 Digital Remaster) (album)

Suggest Gandhi (onimo), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

wwwowwww

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

!!!!!!!

Bill A, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

(on a non Kraftwerk note just discovered a shitload of Moondog and some Tom Lehrer on there too, that's the afternoon's playlist sorted)

Bill A, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

As I said on a revived Kraftwerk thread, they all have horrible covers. Listening to The Mix, and they sound great, though!

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

...although it's not actually mixed, which is something of an error. I'm going to give Tour De France a try instead.

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think the cover of 'The Mix' is an improvement and I would really like TEE if I'd never seen the original sleeve. The new Man Machine sleeve is appaling.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

otm x3

modescalator (blueski), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

The new Autobahn one isn't too bad I suppose.

Cover connections:

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Listening to Computer World and the drums on Numbers are absolutely immense. Really glad I took the plunge and signed up for a premium sub as the remasters are much, much better than I expected.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

what's the advantage of having a premium sub with regards to the kraftwerk remasters?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Streams in 320kbps instead of 160 kbps. Same for all stuff I think, though some stuff will benefit more obviously.

go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 15:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

... and if you've got an iPhone then you can download them for offline listening too. Am actually surprised at home much I'm looking forward to hearing these.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

Er, at "how" much, obviously.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

FEAR COMES IN WAVES: TRIANGLE

this makes me lol every time i hear it.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

premium now offers offline listening? why this would be useful i really don't know but still

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 19:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

i would happily take a survey so spotify know how to accurately advertise to me. because if i, a non-driver, hear that fucking bad driving done by a lol child advert one more time i may go steal a car and run over some children. i use spotify to stop me 'stealing' music but at this rate, i may just have to go back to it. or find a job and buy records again.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Friday, 16 October 2009 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Bob Dylan catalogue no longer on Spotify (or isn't on there as of right now) :(

Officer Pupp, Sunday, 18 October 2009 07:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Aye he pulled everything, this - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/aug/17/major-labels-spotify - implies that it was something to do with the labels making money as spotify shareholders without any of that revenue reaching the artists.

Suggest Gandhi (onimo), Sunday, 18 October 2009 10:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, that newly prominent 'Buy' button is going to prove dangerous.

Matt DC, Sunday, 18 October 2009 12:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Foetus

* (Not Adam) (single)
* Ache (album)
* Blow (album)
* Damp (album)
* Deaf (album)
* Flow (album)
* Limb (album)
* Male (album)
* Null / Void (album)
* Rife (album)

Suggest Gandhi (onimo), Monday, 19 October 2009 15:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Just installed Spotify on my brand new iPhone. Did someone say that there wasn't an Artist search? Well actually, there is.

It all works very well - pretty fast, and a good high bitrate - although it looks like you can't add new playlists directly on the iPhone. The one aggravation is that the app doesn't seem to remember your previous searches - so if you break off halfway through an album, you've got to re-run the whole search to get back to where you were, unless you've already added the album to a pre-existing playlist.

(Oh, and there's no scrobbling of course.)

mike t-diva, Monday, 19 October 2009 16:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

(Oh, and there's no scrobbling of course.)

You know, I'd idly wondered about this. I'm so glad I kicked the Last.fm habit before the Spotify mobile app appeared, because that would have driven me insane.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Monday, 19 October 2009 21:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

judas

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 October 2009 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

New Grant Hart album http://open.spotify.com/album/5PBaS8oAyN58OphJkFSQGT

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 October 2009 21:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

An email from them offering 6 months premium at £7.99 a month. They're weakening (although I bet they've introduced whatever's caused all the stuttering the last couple of days in order to help persuade me. You'd hope 'offline' wouldn't suffer those problems).

j.o.n.a, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

ARGH. CONSERVATIVE PARTY BROADCASTS INTERRUPTING KRAFTWERK ALBUMS?!?!?

FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF

I thought these ads were supposed to be "appropriate" - WTF WTF GET IT OFF GET IT OFF GET IT OFF

oh god that was awful.

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

FEH FEH A SKEEVE TO THEM

You're bloody right I don't want to hear Tory propaganda when I'm trying to enjoy music. I feel unclean.

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

Spotify deserve to lose listeners for this. No way am i giving money for a subscription now to them when they accept money from the evil scum that is the tory party. Fuck Spotify.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

£5 subs now though!

Neil S, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

That £2 subsidy is thanks to the Tories. Do you really wanna go there? ;-)

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

when spotify spouts tory propaganda pish they get zero money from me.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Suddenly glad this hasn't reached America yet. I couldn't stomach paying for Sarah Palin ads between my songs.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

(You don't get the ads if you pay. But if they're getting money from the Conservatives, they dont' need mine.)

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

This suddenly makes me glad I only ever get adverts where motorcyclists die every 2 songs.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

when spotify spouts tory propaganda pish they get zero money from me

Oh, come on. They're the Tories, not the BNP -- which, I accept, would be a very different matter. And it's hardly "spouting propaganda pish": hellfire, if broadcasters/websites/print publications only took ads from companies or organisations they explicitly supported, the world would be a very different place. You might think it'd be a better one, and I'm not going to argue -- but that's advertising-supported business models for you.

Either way, I think it's a little Spartist to have a pop at a business for accepting money from the fucking Conservatives, cock-ends though they might be ;)

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

otm

Bob Six, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Downloading plsylists for offline use on the iPhone is pretty slow. Also you have to be a) using the app, b) connected to wi-fi and c) plugged into the mains (for more than a few downloads). Best solution is to open the app at bedtime and let it run overnight.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 October 2009 13:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah seriously if you're not going to consume any media that has ads for the Tories then you're pretty much going to have to move to another country for the next year.

It might actually drive me to pay for a subscription though.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also I've found myself mostly using Spotify for classical music and DJ mix albums and ads in general are beyond intrusive in either case.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 October 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

VLAH. just got Toried again. I turned the sound off until it was done.

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Friday, 23 October 2009 15:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

AGAIN! two in one album is surely excessive.

Strawberry Letter 22 (Masonic Boom), Friday, 23 October 2009 15:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

OK, it's just started making me reccomendations. I didn't know it was going to do that.

I was expecting them to be totally off (as iTunes ones usually are and last.fm ones often are) but it just suggested me Nitin Sawhney and that is completely OTM.

The Paisley (shop) Window Pane (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

[freshspotify] new music for you on spotify!

Depeche Mode

* Ohrwürmer (album)

Eh?

George Mucus (ledge), Friday, 6 November 2009 11:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ohrwurm = earworm (ie catchy song) in German, I think? Probably some compilation thing for .de market?

anatol_merklich, Monday, 9 November 2009 00:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've just my first ever actually *appropriate* spotify ad!

For Miike Snow, who I don't actually like - but at least they're even remotely in the right sort of ... area.

Persian Pickle (Masonic Boom), Monday, 9 November 2009 18:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

hey pfunkboy

good news! spotify have added some music by artists you've told us you love.

click on any of the titles to play in spotify (we're afraid some releases may not be available in your country yet though).
Redd Kross

* Third Eye (album)
Scott Walker

* Humble Beginnings - The Early Years (compilation)

Jesu

* Opiate Sun EP (ep)

happy listening :)

from freshspotify

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 November 2009 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to bluegrass. How likely is it that I'm going to be receptive to an ad for GTA: Chinatown Wars? (Rated T for Teen.)

I never saw the advantage of peeing while standing. (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 13:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

does the take that singstar ad really start w/ "THE GREATEST DAY OF YR LIFE HAS FINALLY ARRIVED". I was lol-ing so hard I wasn't sure if I heard it correctly.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 12 November 2009 13:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

can any premium types tell me just HOW much better the 320 is than the 160. i can't bear the sound quality in Spotify much as i love the service. is it loads better? their own forum has frankly been no help.

piscesx, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

I can't hear the difference at all, but I do a terrifying amount of my listening on crappy built-in iMac speakers, so I'm no use. I signed up for premium simply so I could use the iPhone app.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

tell me just HOW much better the 320 is than the 160

twice as good ;) roughly the same quality as the m4as you can buy on itunes plus

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Okay, I want this now. Where can I get an invite??

dog latin, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

(you haven't needed on for about a year... in the uk anyway)

koogs, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

You do again since they started the iPhone thing. Webmail me yr email address DL if you still need.

j.o.n.a, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Those Spotify ads are fascinating...there's one where a guy pronounces the "h" in "Sky HD" as, "haitch," which I find totally baffling. And why do so many ads have announcers speaking in really bad fake American accents?

A. Begrand, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Pronouncing H as "haitch" is fairly common in England (maybe Britain in general as well).

Pedro Paramore (jim), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Okay, I want this now. Where can I get an invite??

I just passed my remaining 13 (! -- they kept giving me more) to http://www.spotipartners.com/ ... they seem to be as good a source as any.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Don’t leave your invites unused. People are dying to get access to Spotify.

Blimey, I had no idea it was so serious.

j.o.n.a, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

i haven't tried this out, but theres a deep url that looks like it will let you sign up without an invite
https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

scout, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

got 25 invites

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

And why do so many ads have announcers speaking in really bad fake American accents?

This is a feature of many adverts on TV in Britain, especially done in that deep film trailer voice.

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 12 November 2009 22:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that deep URL still works, so you still don't need an invite. As for premium bitrate, it sounds superb on iPhone + decent headphones - appreciably better than the miserly 192 that I've always used in iTunes. Not full CD quality, but not far off.

mike t-diva, Friday, 13 November 2009 01:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

can someone send me a spotify invite?

geeta, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

people who say "haitch" are the most disgusting savages imo

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

wait, how else do you pronounce H?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

"aitch"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

How do you spell Haitch?

"Haitch"

Yes, Haitch.

"Haitch"

Yes, Haitch.

Mark G, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

geeta i'm not sure spotify is available on the orbiting techno spaceship you live in

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

o, sorry about the H at the start. Yeah, disgusting savages.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

invitation sent nonetheless

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wow, that Nandos advert is a tad racist

PaulTMA, Friday, 13 November 2009 19:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

how does the Nandos advert go? I have premium so ad-free!!

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Friday, 13 November 2009 23:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

I haven't got that one. I just keep getting the sodding Robbie Williams ads. You know, I *like* Robbie, but those ads are making me hate him. :-(

Persian Pickle (Masonic Boom), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

not sure what it is about my spotify habits (recently, herbie hancock, esma redzepova, nels cline, ersen, evangelista, the open strings comp), but for some reason they keep trying to sell me sodding hard-fi.

that's hard-fi.

m the g, Friday, 13 November 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

My new game is typing two unrelated words into the search box and listening to whatever it comes up with or suggests. Just found this amazing karaoke version of the Cheers theme tune by searching for 'space cheese'.

James Mitchell, Monday, 16 November 2009 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hello spotify. Yes, I like Little Boots and I like Douglas Adams but I DO NOT LIKE THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF A PHILIP GLASS OPERA THANK YOU.

Actually, a Philip Glass opera about Douglas Adams starring Little Boots would be just about the best thing in the universe.

Cosmic Dentistry (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 19 November 2009 14:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

would love a douglas adams ad. all i get is the malibu mishmash one. BE ONE OF THEM.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 19 November 2009 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Except it's not really Douglas Adams, it's more like that "And Another Thing..." thing.

Cosmic Dentistry (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 19 November 2009 14:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Searching "space cheese" - several xposts

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Thursday, 19 November 2009 15:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f02efac6-d4ab-11de-a935-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1

Spotify has also played up the rates it can charge advertisers, saying that its ability to determine a listener's mood based on the beats per minute in the songs they are listening to has helped it achieve high click-through rates of as much as 6-7 per cent.

yeah right

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 21 November 2009 15:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

looooooooooooooool

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 21 November 2009 15:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

now playing: Cat Stevens "I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun"

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 21 November 2009 15:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

now playing: Rotterdam Terror Corps "Brutal Attack"

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 21 November 2009 15:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still sometimes surprised by the extent of the catalogue on this: both Hugo Largo albums! sixty-nine and I by AR Kane! Even Euphoria by Insides = currently listening to Relentless for the first time in at least six years.

All it needs is for someone to script something that can detect the running time of a track and skip to the next one as it reaches the final second to defeat the advertising (every other track for me these days, pretty onerous).

Bill A, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 12:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

All it needs is for someone to script something that can detect the running time of a track and skip to the next one as it reaches the final second to defeat the advertising

Or you could just buy a subscription ... :)

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 13:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

they really should've made it cheaper now to be fair

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 13:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

omg please stop with the malibu mishmash. or just give me another advert. i genuinely have heard nothing but BE ONE OF THEM in about a week and a half. it's got to the point where i'm using spotify less& less just not to hear that advert.

9-1 never forget (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

BE ONE OF THEM

9-1 never forget (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think i've learnt to block that one out - it's not as bad as the 3-Mobile-goes-Braveheart one

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

From Chrysalis Music on twitter :

1 million streams on #Spotify earns you $167? Not good.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

>Or you could just buy a subscription ... :)

y'know, blueski otm - if it was even just a couple of quid cheaper then I would probably already be signed up, but on top of every other household bill I cannot justify it. I also don't think that £9.99 a month is value for money in this instance, which likely reveals me as a terrible skinflint.

Bill A, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

traditionally britishers haven't had to pay for what is effectively radio, so i can see there's some opposition there.

am not sure lady gaga can complain either. that's $167 from a brand new revenue stream, one that didn't exist this time last year and is 167 dollars more than she'd've got from people downlooting it. it's not like they had to press up another million copies and ship them out to record stores... 8)

(does seem awfully low though)

koogs, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

do they mean that's how much lady gaga got directly after taking into account everyone else's share (inc 'repaying' the label on initial investment or whatever)?

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

pretty sure it's just the artist's share. how likely is it that the labels accepted low royalties in return for a share of ownership and neglected to think about their musicians' interests? hmm...

joe, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I also don't think that £9.99 a month is value for money in this instance, which likely reveals me as a terrible skinflint

Ach, I was being a bit cheeky ... TBH, the only reason I've signed up is so I can use the mobile app (which I love). If I didn't have an iPhone, I think I'd still be enduring/moaning about the ads.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, if it worked with my mp3 player I think I'd be more into paying for it. But until then, I'll continue with my cheapjack last throes track skipping habits. As it is I only ever listen to it at work, so the radio comparison from koogs is spot on.

Bill A, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I know the lines have now blurred in this digital age such that data = product to most people...

But a solid tenner every month still feels extortionate for a rental service that still isn't quite there delivery wise, at least in comparison/addition to my monthly broadband bill.

That said, I don't suppose anybody on a premium subscription knows if the streaming is actually less buggy on it?
I'd hope it'd somehow get a higher priority in the p2p end of things...

I still get intermittent skips (more like missing blocks getting joined together without the silence) on 2 different operating systems (XP & Win7), 2 different connections (home wireless and work broadband direct ethernet connection) and well, it's okay for free sure, but having serious trouble committing any further as it does spoil my enjoyment frequently.

fndgo, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah it does skip more now than it used to plus im not convinced they take care when ripping some albums either.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

I haven't experienced any skips, but the premium service often runs too slow - annoying pauses in the middle of tracks. It doesn't bother me too much though, as I mostly set currrent playlists to offline, so that they download overnight on the iPhone. No issues with value for money, as £10 a month is good value for unlimited high bitrate listening of multiple albums. A good 80% of all my listening is now via Spotify on iPhone, either on headphones or wired through the hi-fi. But I do miss scribbling.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

...that should have read "scrobbling". Damned auto-correct...

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah lots of pausing in tracks too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

you cant scrobble from an iphone?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

cant 'scrobble' in scrabble yet either

unforgivable Jaqness (tremendoid), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

which is just silly

unforgivable Jaqness (tremendoid), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

i tried premium day pass last week and the thing became nearly useless. skips, stops and tracks that wouldn't load. don't know if the size of the files had anything to do with it but yeah, they have some issues to deal with

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

the premium day pass is in the low bitrate too, i didn't relaise this but supposedly so.

piscesx, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

xpost: Correct, you can't scrobble Spotify from an iPhone.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 09:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

^ ... which means, as I've said elsewhere, I'm *mighty* glad I kicked the Last.fm habit before I went premium :)

Like Mike, I use the iPhone app for a tonne of my listening now, and I'd be a bit stymied without it. I can't say I've noticed any streaming problems at all since I started paying, either: maybe I've just been lucky, though.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

There does seem to be a link between a song's popularity and its ability to stream. Never have a problem with big hits; sometimes have a problem with lesser-known tracks, e.g. where there's only one tick on the populariity bar or whatever. Which makes sense, considering the service uses P2P behind the scenes.

But of the 80% of all my listening that's Spotify + iPhone, maybe 80% of that is via the offline mode. I've become rigorously organised about playlist management, and it's dead easy to add an album to an existing offline playlist on the fly, pending a download the next time I'm a) plugged into the mains and b) on wi-fi (both of which you need to be).

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Never have a problem with big hits; sometimes have a problem with lesser-known tracks, e.g. where there's only one tick on the populariity bar or whatever

Hmm. I'd never even noticed the popularity bar until now (or, rather, I had but had ignored it): looking back, my last few blasts of listening veer from about half-full to completely empty, but I've never noticed any differences in stream quality/reliability either way. I'm guessing a lot of it will have to do with your ISP as well?

You're absolutely right about the iPhone app, though: probably because I still organise everything in iTunes with separate playlists, it feels totally natural to do that with Spotify too. Yes, it requires that tiny modicum of forethought -- but it's well worth it.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

From Chrysalis Music on twitter :

1 million streams on #Spotify earns you $167? Not good.

― J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:21 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.stevelawson.net/wordpress/2009/11/if-spotify-is-the-new-radio-the-artists-are-winning/

so it turns out this was bollocks. $167 was just the publishing fee, she made over a grand in total, which is about 100x the amount you'd make from radio for the same number of listeners.

joe, Friday, 11 December 2009 11:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

that advert for 'a wkd christmas' is srsly the lowpoint of our culture

dyao know what i mean (acoleuthic), Saturday, 19 December 2009 00:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

I don't have any wkd christmas adverts. I just get endless ads to Yahoo playlists. I have to say spotify's tactics seem to be working, since the adverts are the worst thing I've ever heard, and I was in Nam. The Super Mario Drive By guy really needs to be fired from a cannon. Or I pay for premium, I guess.

NotEnough, Monday, 21 December 2009 10:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

WTF is this Mumford & Sons pish that they keep advertising? Sounds fucking awful.

Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 31 December 2009 16:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

lovestruck.com advert assuming you're a single professional man looking for love through the medium of music-streaming (and not okcupid or hell real life) = people had better not sign up to this shit

your favorite toy dinosaur ruined my asshole (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Awesome how this thread turned from "Spotify is the future of music!" to "these fucking ads"

NotEnough, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

"In fact you probably saw someone hot this morning!"

yes yes yes beautiful women are everywhere and available and subservient and CHECK OUT THE ASS ON THAT ONE

your favorite toy dinosaur ruined my asshole (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still, all the Kraftwerk remasters!

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

i am not saying that spotify is not the best thing ever, which it sadly is

your favorite toy dinosaur ruined my asshole (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 17:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

Have they got rid of the women who laughs for no good reason after she says she likes 'Can You Feel It' by The Jacksons? I hate her.

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Interview with Daniel Ek, founder of Spotify. They're hoping to launch in the US in the early part of this year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8478599.stm

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 11:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

So now I have a whole chunk of Kraftwerk, and the Monkees' "Headquarters sessions" to minidisc..

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 11:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

is it 1998 again? 8)

(i still use mine for recording gigs. but nothing else.)

koogs, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

i use mine for interviewing people. the sound quality is great and it's totally reliable.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

also with Hi-MD you get hours and hours on a single disc.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I did around 5 KW albums, and have space to spare.

Had to edit the ads out, but hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

cheapskate

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Monkees' "Headquarters sessions" is unavailable by any other method.

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

I got fed up enough after hearing that ad for Brothers and the operapopstarsBritneySpears thing too many times that I paid for premium. I figure I use the thing enough, might as well give them some of my money..

But now my songs keep randomly stopping and starting again :(

BOOOOO

salsa sharkshavin (salsa shark), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

Search on the iPhone is dicking me around. Button takes ages to appear, then ages to find a result, then suddenly disappears again and drops me back to the playlists. 3G, five bars, it's always been fine before.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Thursday, 28 January 2010 10:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've had the same thing this week, but only intermittently.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 28 January 2010 10:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

having the same problems, ledge. isn't streaming for me either.

Crackle Box, Thursday, 28 January 2010 11:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

all better now

take me to your lemur (ledge), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

got premium (tbh it's pretty sweet) for christmas. the streaming is definitely a bit choppier though, and it seems like it can't play consecutive tracks without a little skip between as well

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 January 2010 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

songs are streaming right now very oddly: when they start at all, they're playing at double or triple speed, evidently by skipping every other 1/2 second, so that the songs are half as long. I was listening to Sheena Easton but it became intolerable; now I'm trying the Black Eyed Peas and "I Gotta Feeling" was absolute bizarre---just a big monotonous blur. "Boom Boom Pow" is a little better at this speed. Anyone get this effect?

Euler, Monday, 1 February 2010 12:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha so Chaka Khan's "Through The Fire" showed up on the home page and so I'm trying it at Spotify triple speed or whatever and the chorus sounds like the Kanye sample now! consider it auto-chipmunk, courtesy of Spotify.

Euler, Monday, 1 February 2010 12:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

> I was listening to Sheena Easton but it became intolerable

'became'?

koogs, Monday, 1 February 2010 14:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

nice

Euler, Monday, 1 February 2010 14:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

No streaming at all for me, again. Got through the first 8 tracks of Speak and Spell no problem, but it won't give me any Big Muff. Fnarr.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Monday, 1 February 2010 14:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ek talks America, iTunes, various things.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 17:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol it's put the Busted album under Cheap Trick.

NotEnough, Thursday, 11 February 2010 09:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I saw that!

"Crashed the wedding" specifically.

Mark G, Thursday, 11 February 2010 09:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

This bullshit popping ads up in the scroll bar as you're clicking it to make you click them by accident is both disgusting and savage.

the pity party of tiny feet (onimo), Sunday, 7 March 2010 21:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

so far, my impression of mflow is that its not as good as spotify.... here's an articles explaining what it is:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/shanerichmond/100004722/twitter-meets-itunes-at-mflow/

As a user you can only preview 30 sec of tracks or buy to hear the whole track. You can recommend/flow tracks to others and they will be able to hear the whole song in order to make a buy decision.

I created two user profiles and mflowed about 10 entire albums from one to the other. Under the receipient profile, I only got given a selection of tracks from the albums I had flowed, rather than the whole album.

So, whilst mflow is not ad-supported like the free version of Spotify, its way more restrictive and doesn't let you dive into an album.

I got spare invites if anyone wants one, 'cos I;m not recruiting anyone in the near future.

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, 11 March 2010 10:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait to try Spotify - if and when it comes to the US. Lala.com is lame with it's one-time stream per album deal.

musicfanatic, Thursday, 11 March 2010 17:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

want to get an invite for my ex - anybody got one?

but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 14:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

want to get an invite for my ex - anybody got one?

Got one if you pm me.

porn mirth pig (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 14:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

pm'd - thanks!!

but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 14:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Friend of mine looking for an invite - anybody got one?

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 23 April 2010 08:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

yah i do

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Friday, 23 April 2010 08:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

altho can't do it now. unless you can invite from iphone app.

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Friday, 23 April 2010 08:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh wait i can do it from the website

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Friday, 23 April 2010 08:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dunno how it works tbh. Do I need to give you his email or something?

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 23 April 2010 08:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

yup

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Friday, 23 April 2010 08:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Email sent :)

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 23 April 2010 09:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

pal invited

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Friday, 23 April 2010 10:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cheers

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 23 April 2010 11:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.spotify.com/int/blog/archives/2010/04/27/the-next-generation/

April 27, 2010, 05:06

This morning we’re really excited to announce a major evolution of Spotify. Today we begin rolling out Spotify version 0.4.3 which includes the largest feature upgrade since our launch in late 2008.

To kick it off we’ve added a number of social features, centered on a fully editable Spotify music profile, with the ability to publish playlists, top artists and top tracks for public view. Discovering these profiles is simple as we’ve connected with Facebook so that you can instantly add your friends’ profiles.

As well as introducing a variety of new social features, Spotify is evolving into a total music management platform. We’ve added a ‘Library’ folder in the left side bar, enabling you to combine your own music library with ours.

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

stoked

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 11:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

canx i haz cheeze invite lemme know

danbunny, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

And if yours isn't updating to the latest version, download it from

http://download.cnet.com/Spotify/3000-2141_4-10912348.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

does anyone pay for premium via paypal? They cant do re-ocurring charges via that can they? I might try it for a month but I dont wanna do it via CC incase i forget to cancel it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

ok i signed up, looks like it does charge you each month, didn't think they could do that with paypal, so im not too happy with that but I'm gonna give it a go, esp useful with all these listening clubs. Maybe I'll use Spotify more now I'm paying for it but i cant see me subscribing every month unless i do use it a lot.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

New version is killer

stet, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Didn't realise they update the player, I'm still on 0.3.23 by the looks of it.

seandalai, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

We’ve added a ‘Library’ folder in the left side bar, enabling you to combine your own music library with ours.

Lord, my prayers have been answered. <3333

snakebite and a passable pinot noir (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

This new version layout somehow reminds me of Napster. If only there was a way to chat to people on your friends list...

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if the labels who own a huge chunk of spotify are enjoying scanning my library for leaked mp3s...

broad layering (onimo), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 23:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Doesnt work in the Yewessay.

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 01:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

if anyone has an invite messagemail me....ill buy u a toffee

danbunny, Thursday, 29 April 2010 01:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Doesnt work in the Yewessay."

it does if u use proxy switchy in chrome

danbunny, Thursday, 29 April 2010 01:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

tried to send you an ilx-mail just now does that ever work?

joe, Thursday, 29 April 2010 01:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

got it..........thnkkkkkkkkkkkkksss its awesome

danbunny, Thursday, 29 April 2010 02:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Are the proxy settings as easy to tweak for us North Americans as they are on the older version?

A. Begrand, Thursday, 29 April 2010 02:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

i used proxy switchy in google chrome and used proxy-list.or g and copied th ip and port number into prxyswitchy

danbunny, Thursday, 29 April 2010 03:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Getting this for iPhone has been the best thing I ever did...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 29 April 2010 07:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Me too...How much do you use it during the day on 3g? It hoovers up data - and I wonder in the long-term if the phone companies will act to limit it.

Bob Six, Thursday, 29 April 2010 07:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Xpost: on iPhone it let's you download and store music on your phone! So you can play offline

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, 29 April 2010 07:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyone know when the new version will be available for mac?

p-dog, Thursday, 29 April 2010 09:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

I downloaded it from spotify's site yesterday evening. It looks good - though I haven't tried the link to facebook yet.

I was quite impressed with how quickly it built the new 'library' - and it found more tracks than I have in iTunes.

Bob Six, Thursday, 29 April 2010 09:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Most of my Spotify iPhone plays are in offline mode - I set the playlists up to download overnight, while I'm plugged into the mains on my home wi-fi. That said, the 3G signal in the office is super-strong, so it rarely pauses while streaming online.

The new Windows version hasn't rolled out to me yet - the site says they're phasing it in - and I am getting VERY IMPATIENT.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 29 April 2010 09:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

mike, you can download the new version; the update doesn't mess with any existing playlists or settings

And if yours isn't updating to the latest version, download it from

http://download.cnet.com/Spotify/3000-2141_4-10912348.html

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:48 (2 days ago) Bookmark

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ah thanks, will do so this evening...

mike t-diva, Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

It tried to roll out the new version to me after I already downloaded it myself, resulting in something fucking up and me having to do it all again. Really happy with it but I'm still a bit wary about it mining my libraries - I'm not a serial advance copy downlooter but I imagine if I was I'd be concerned about installing a product that allows major record labels to browse my computer for albums they haven't released yet.

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Don't make those playlists public, then! Pretty sure it doesn't let them see details of your library otherwise.

stet, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

How much information does Spotify store about my local files and what do you do with them?
We collect data on the files you import and play for top list purposes, statistics and to link tracks to our database for better sharing. As we state in our privacy policy, we won’t share an individuals information regarding imported files to 3rd parties.

From the blog, although obviously it depends how far you believe that's likely, and what exactly it means.

How did it fuck up onimo? I did the same, and it's crashed a couple of times, but nothing serious.

Other than that, it's great - always slightly wary of the social aspect of these (misanthropy/integration of everything fear) but the assimilation of itunes stuff is great, as the fact you can sync both local and spotify files to iphone playlists. Once the new iphone gets third party apps running the background - KABOOOM, I have leveled up.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ooh, so does this mean I'll be able to use Spotify as my MP3 player, without having to open bloaty old iTunes?

mike t-diva, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

How did it fuck up onimo?

Nothing too serious. Refused to play for a bit. Then claimed it couldn't update because I didn't have Administrator permission. Then didn't install the update because the installer was already there. I ended up deleting the downloaded setup file and starting it again and it was fine.
As we state in our privacy policy, we won’t share an individuals information regarding imported files to 3rd parties.

The major record labels are big shareholders in Spotify meaning they're not necessarily third parties.
Don't make those playlists public, then!

The setup process for the new library functions goes through your library and adds every song and playlist *before* you decide what not to share. Regardless of what I do afterwards there is a point at which Spotify knows if I have any dodgy mp3s in my library.

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ooh, so does this mean I'll be able to use Spotify as my MP3 player, without having to open bloaty old iTunes?

Yep, on computer it's great, because the whole search/linking thing is so much better than itunes, tho not sure about relative amount of space taken up per song on iPhone, and obviously that whole not being able to run spotify in the background is a drag, until the iPhone 4.

Point taken about third parties onimo.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

The labels only have a 17% stake; they definitely count as third parties. Spotify giving them data on who has prereleases would just be suicide, too. I'd be relaxed about it.

stet, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought you were generally more twitchy than most about data mining, particularly when Facebook gets involved.

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sony, Universal and Warner have 8% each, according to

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/07/AR2009080700891.html

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh wait I'm wrong - they're using commas and decimal points :/

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I am, I guess trust matters a lot here: I trust Ek and a bunch of Swedes way more than Zuckerberg or CBS. Even at that last.fm has been packed with leaked stuff for years and nothing happens.

It's not actually illegal to listen to or possess this stuff, anyway: only to duplicate or distribute it. (Someone else can be the test case on how you get it on your machine without duplication tho ...)
Xp

stet, Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

commas *as* decimal points

broad layering (onimo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Inbox needs a 'Thanks' button. Also 'Thanks. Thanks a bunch.'

the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Saturday, 1 May 2010 09:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't think labels are really bothered about what files are on people's PCs only whether they've "uploaded" them

mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 1 May 2010 10:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

How long is it going to take before us plebs get the new version?

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

you can download the new version; the update doesn't mess with any existing playlists or settings

And if yours isn't updating to the latest version, download it from

http://download.cnet.com/Spotify/3000-2141_4-10912348.html

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:48 (2 days ago) Bookmark

― De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:00 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

Tho see onimo's posts about having to re-install.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 1 May 2010 13:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah - downloaded it for mac, no joy.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bugger.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 1 May 2010 14:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah - downloaded it for mac, no joy

That's really odd: doing that worked for me (and Stet, I think). It's definitely version 0.4.3 you're getting?

On a more general Spotify/Mac note: is anyone else finding it more stuttery and troublesome of late, usually at evenings and weekends? I'm 99% sure this is related to my ISP (good ole BT) and their traffic-shaping: there's been a lengthy discussion of it on Spotify's forums and both them and BT have made promising noises about a fix -- but I'm pretty much having to rely on offline playlists most of the time now. Not a massive hardship, but still ...

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Spotify + Mac + BT + stuttering - tell me about it.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thank you grimly fiendish, now have latest version.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

getting stuttering now. This latest track has just stopped completely. What a waste of money.

Dastardly & Müttley Crüe (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 3 May 2010 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

A few niggles:

- After the recent update, I'm not informed the number of songs in each playlist
- When I search for artists/albums, I often get "and xxx more". How can I find the xxx others?
- Is the only way to print playlists: CTRL C | CTRL V in MS Word ?
- Can I make a playlist of the (more amusing) ads?

- Is there another blog/forum for such questions?

Cheers

garside5, Thursday, 13 May 2010 06:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

amusing ads o_O

http://spotify.com/blog

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I paid 99p for a no-ads day on Saturday and it was fine - went through a 6 hour playlist without a single hiccup in the stream. Recommended for parties full of people who won't like most of what's on your local library.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

- When I search for artists/albums, I often get "and xxx more". How can I find the xxx others?

if you scroll down through the list it adds new entries iirc

joe, Thursday, 13 May 2010 09:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

After the recent update, I'm not informed the number of songs in each playlist

And you no longer get the total playing time, either. Boo. Although oddly, both remain in place for the "Starred Items" playlist.

Is the only way to print playlists: CTRL C | CTRL V in MS Word ?

This never worked for me - I just get a series of messy looking URLs. Perhaps it's been fixed in the new version? Can't check right now.

I do like finding out who has subscribed to my playlists, though.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 13 May 2010 11:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyone using this as srs itunes replacement for local files? Any good?

I don't want to go into my newt details (ledge), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

was excited to try this as my itunes collection is way too big to live on my laptop's hard drive. spotify seems to be missing loads of stuff tho.

p-dog, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think it searches for playlist files rather than all local audio.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

I asked:Is there another blog/forum for such questions?

amusing ads: recommended: http://spotify.com/blog

But can you ask stuff there?

Or where?

garside5, Friday, 14 May 2010 06:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

You can ask questions in the comments sections of the spotify blog and sometimes spotify staff answer them, if you're lucky.

There's also
http://www.spotify.com/int/help/support-forum/

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Friday, 14 May 2010 09:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyone managed this:

"You can further sort your playlists into your own compilations, collaborative efforts, playlists created by friends, and more. Just create a blank playlist for each sorting category. You can use symbols such as * and – to make your labels stand out, for example “- – -My Playlists- – -” or “***Party Playlists***”."

Is it just an extension of the manual alphabetization?

http://www.stuffbypaulbrown.com/how-to-organise-your-spotify-playlists/#comments

garside5, Saturday, 15 May 2010 05:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

how do i uze this bitch in the USA (BABAY!!!!) USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

kelpolaris, Saturday, 15 May 2010 05:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

try this

1) go to http://www.daveproxy.co.uk/
2) enter the following URL: https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/
3) Create your account, for UK postcode – check http://www.postcodesearch.org.uk/

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 15 May 2010 09:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

comments on blog I got that from says it might not work as they check ip from the spotify application. You might need to do more ip shenanigans.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 15 May 2010 09:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyone else heard the ads for this crazy German band?

James Mitchell, Monday, 17 May 2010 20:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

ugh, no, thankfully i upgraded to premium. The world doesnt need a german housemartins

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

guess i was asleep when the housemartins covered r&b hits in a rockabilly style.

I don't want to go into my newt details (ledge), Monday, 17 May 2010 21:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ruh-roh:

First up is Spotify Unlimited, which offers you round-the-clock, ad-free access to Spotify on your computer. Create playlists, build your own library, share music with friends - and all for only €5 a month.

Also available from today is Spotify Open. Open offers new Spotify users the chance to try out the service without the need for an invite, giving access to millions of tracks for up to 20 hours every month - that’s equivalent to listening to 25 albums or 300 tracks EVERY month!

http://www.spotify.com/uk/blog/archives/2010/05/18/open-and-unlimted/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

users who are happy with their current plan won’t be affected by these updates.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

...if you're already paying, surely?

Looks like the free service will now be restricted to "up to 20 hours per month".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Maybe not. If you haven't already signed up, looks like you lost out (unless you can get an invite): http://www.spotify.com/uk/get-spotify/overview/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

No "available offline" or spotify mobile with Unlimited (doesn't that make it Limited?) and it's got the same bitrate as free but £5 to get rid of the ads is tempting.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

im signed up but don't seem to have n.e. invites to give out :/

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

If you have Free now, you'll fallback to Free when your Premium or Unlimited expires.

^good news for anyone wanting to try out Unlimited.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Day pass is no longer available!
We recommend Spotify Premium or Spotify Unlimited instead.

:(

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

boo

long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 11:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

the beginning of the end

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Surprised it's taken them so long to do this.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

spotify unlimited for half the price is a pretty reasonable deal though.

i have two invites for anyone who's interested btw

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

the beginning of the end

£5 for unlimited is pretty good value, Premium (which you're already paying for?) isn't changing, people on Free get to stay on it. Losing the day pass is a loss but I think this is a better price structure overall.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

£5 is remarkable considering what that would have bought in Our Price when i were a nipper

stet, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

a 10 pack of TDK's?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

£5 at Our Price would at least have gotten you something in decent quality and without horrible compression.

Times New Excels At (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 18:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've been moaning at them on Get Satisfaction for the past month about how I can't get a decent stream in the evening: after 5pm it starts stuttering terribly. After a while I realised that everyone with the same problem was using BT as an ISP: fair play to Spotify, they've had several chats with BT about it and tonight -- for the first time in months -- it seems to be working properly, after they persuaded BT to tweak something technical I don't quite understand.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying: I like Spotify. A hell of a lot.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is the compression on standard Spotify really bad? I don't remember it being atrocious, but I went premium ages ago so might have forgotten

stet, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

£5 at Our Price would at least have gotten you something in decent quality and without horrible compression.

Aye, a poster.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 21:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

compression on Free causes me no problems, although admittedly it's only through headphones or a cheap-ish 2.1 PC speaker kit. Never had a single stutter on Free either (am on a LLU ADSL2 connection with very low contention ratio though, it sounds like grimly's problems are with BT rather then S/ify themselves).

Disappointed at the end of Day Pass, I've bought this a few times recently when I've been off work decorating etc. I've still got a psychological block about paying a tenner for it on a recurrent basis rather than a quid every so often, I guess.

Bill A, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 22:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Utterly addicted to this, thanks to sonderangerbot for the invite.... it's sort of a problem for me though as 95% of my listening is home listening while typing up essays or just perusing through the internet, so now I see no need to ever buy an album ever again. Unfortunately they don't have a lot of stuff from Warp Records, :(

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Listening to 'God Bless the Red Krayola and All Who Sail With It' and it's jumping like a dodgy vinyl record. Having never heard the album before I wonder if it's supposed to be like this.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 21 May 2010 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

In the early spotify days I heard quite a few vinyl rips - I figured they were just throwing in everything they could hoover up from anywhere but I haven't heard anything like that for ages.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 22 May 2010 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I was listening to a song that skipped a lot, making me think it was just a CD rip.

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Saturday, 22 May 2010 00:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bill: it was far more BT's fault than Spotify's, yes, though the fact it seemed to affect Intel Mac users more than PPC or Windows users (though not exclusively) pointed to something slightly more complex -- as Spotify admitted. Fair play to them: they could have just said "lol BT fuck off", but they stuck with it and it all seems to be good now.

For the moment, at least.

As for the pricing: the tenner a month is worth it for me because of the iPhone app, pure and simple. I'm at the stage now where Spotify's simply an integral part of how I listen to music: I'd be screwed without it.

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 22 May 2010 01:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not entirely convinced it's BT at fault as that's the only thing I've had problems with. The stuff I listened to before and after played fine.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 22 May 2010 08:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

There's a track on My Dying Bride's "Turn loose the swans" (title track, I think) that turns into a completely different song in the middle. Spotify guerilla mashup, I assume.
Rather, uh, disconcerting. A bit amusing. Turns out, incidentally, that that album isn't as enjoyable at 29 as it was at 19.

Øystein, Saturday, 22 May 2010 11:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 gripes: signing up to the day pass isn't/wasn't as easy as it should be. we tried to sort this for a party last weekend and ended up paying £10 for the month, bit irritating. second gripe, listening to it during the day and songs constantly pause and skip, im guessing because of the increased bandwidth needed to stream 320 mp3s. i use bt too but this was still happening late last week. they should at least have a setting to bump this down to 128 as my only workaround is to log in with an old ad-supported account - the idea of (mistakenly) paying £10 for an unusable service is kinda ridiculous

NI, Thursday, 27 May 2010 11:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

My questions upthread answered, I just got an email from paypal saying I'd paid for premium, so it does do it automatically!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 27 May 2010 19:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 gripes: signing up to the day pass isn't/wasn't as easy as it should be. we tried to sort this for a party last weekend and ended up paying £10 for the month

1st gripe is down to the day pass no longer existing

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Thursday, 27 May 2010 20:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

I got an email yesterday about some kind of free account they're introducing, but I only glanced at it then and my webmail isn't loading now. I'll be back with info soon, promise.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 27 May 2010 21:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh okay it was the already discussed Spotify Open. Nevrrrrrrmind.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

1st gripe is down to the day pass no longer existing

no we did this the other saturday, 8th may i think, so it was still available at that time

NI, Friday, 28 May 2010 11:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

I did it that day too - it's been scrapped since, as discussed upthread.

http://www.spotify.com/int/get-spotify/day-pass/

Day pass is no longer available!
We recommend Spotify Premium or Spotify Unlimited instead.

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Friday, 28 May 2010 11:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Wanted to have a listen to a new release album today and it's greyed out with This is a Spotify Premium exclusive. It will later be made available in Spotify Free message. Considering I've paid for a Spotify Unlimited pass this month this irks me - wonder if it's yet another Sign of Things To Come.

Bill A, Monday, 21 June 2010 10:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hey, since when did the iPhone app start scrobbling to last.fm? I've just noticed that you can now switch this on via the settings. ALL MY DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE.

mike t-diva, Friday, 2 July 2010 10:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and the latest version of the iPhone app now has multi-tasking, if you've upgraded to iOS4.

mike t-diva, Friday, 2 July 2010 10:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

^ so awesome. Also works with the headphone buttons, the lock-screen double-tap controls and the swipe-left-on-switcher-bar controls.

stet, Friday, 2 July 2010 10:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Think Farnborough fucking airshow and The Boy Who Trapped The Sun might have finally made me crack and move to Unlimited. Still worried I'll move from Free to Open if I cancel payments. Anyone done that yet?

useless chamber, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

is this true? spotify works in USA now?

http://twitter.com/KellyeSue/status/19081467285

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

this person has protected their tweets

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

HOLYFUCKINGSHIT spotify works in the US now!!!!! My life just got 30% better.

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 20:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

hang on what

Anti-Suggest Ban Order (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

WELCOME

Anti-Suggest Ban Order (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Uhhh, it doesn't though?

Sensational Howard (admrl), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

okay i asked KellyeSue how it's working and all I got was:

" I don't know how it's working.I just did an update, and then it started working again.I'm terrified it's going to stop working."

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought you were in the UK? afaik if you use it in the uk, you can use it for 2 weeks abroad.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 01:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK (LOLK), Thursday, 22 July 2010 02:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

ok any nerds know of a good proxy i can use to get spotify here in the land of the free?

OK (LOLK), Thursday, 22 July 2010 02:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

nevermind, why would i want to circumvent the very laws that protect my freedom

OK (LOLK), Thursday, 22 July 2010 02:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

for unlocking my UK account I use ivacy, since most of proxies I used to use stopped working and I wanted to have something reliable, bought 20GB of transfer for 13$ which is enough for me and my friends to have an eternity of unlocked spotify

V79, Thursday, 22 July 2010 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

this Lynx advert = please die, now

BLACK METAL IST KRIIIIIIIEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGG (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 16:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

rip 'histoire de melody nelson'

unchill english bro (history mayne), Thursday, 26 August 2010 11:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have gotten myself on the free version for a while, and that is sufficient for me, just to check out stuff I am curious about and whatever. Still stick to CDs for actual listening to fave music.

And I still wonder if Spotify will last, as in, will they actually make enough people want to pay for this to keep it going?

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 26 August 2010 11:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Serge Gainsbourg was driven from the interent solely by the awful doggerel of Sky Sports adverts.

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Thursday, 26 August 2010 12:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

God I want this in the USA!!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 August 2010 12:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

awful doggerel of Sky Sports adverts.

p sure these are actually done by spotify to force you to get a pay-scubscriptch

unchill english bro (history mayne), Thursday, 26 August 2010 12:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

rip 'veedon fleece'

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 26 August 2010 13:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

I bet more stuff disappears once it opens in the USA.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 26 August 2010 14:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

I miss the Sutopia ads. :(

PaulTMA, Thursday, 26 August 2010 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

'there you are in your perfectly nice little car' -- what a horribly formed advert

i am legernd (history mayne), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Someone in Dylan's team has a sense of humour as the only CBS albums available are Empire Burlesque, Down In The Groove and Under a Red Sky.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

"We've tried a number of times but have been unable to renew your Spotify subscription. Unfortunately, this means that we're no longer able to continue your Spotify subscription."

Yeah well I had to cancel my credit card because of fraud, maybe if you'd emailed me earlier I could have rectified for you.

ledge, Thursday, 30 September 2010 13:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Like Friendster, it is probably doomed in the long run.

Party with Your Poodle (u s steel), Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Agreed. It's a great way to check out new stuff I haven't heard right now, but I cannot see them making enough money to keep going.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 30 September 2010 23:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

No idea how they work out "related artists" but alongside Kraftwerk they have "Pet Shop Boys, Grace Jones, New Order, Radiohead, David Bowie, Morrissey, Talking Heads and Various Artists" :/

I get a couple of them but there's a dozen other's I'd put before that lot - wonder if it's a record company/marketing thing - like they'd rather I was tempted to buy something by an established popular artist than go off listening to Klaus Schulze all night.

the reasonable one (onimo), Monday, 8 November 2010 21:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

or fans of "The Model" probably likeed those other bands as well

Gukbe, Monday, 8 November 2010 21:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

I was under the impression it was based on what users listened to, so spotify listeners to Kraftwerk listen to PSB, Grace Jones, New Order etc rather than Klaus Schulze, Neu, Amon Duul etc

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 8 November 2010 22:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

I read somewhere that is how they decide it, yes.
Klaus Schultze is somewhat more "ambient" than Kraftwerk as well, so I don't know if they are that much more musically related to him than to, say, Pet Shop Boys or New Order

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 09:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Btw. this thread is just a little over two years old, and the thread topic title already looks extremely old. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to kill that Brasso advert.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Brasso? They not really doing much in the way of 'profiling' their user base, are they?

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's some sort of screen wipe thing, not the stuff you'd use for polishing your knobs.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

You'd think the knob polishers would sue.

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is there some sort of "off-line-spotifylookup", as I have it at home, am not going to install it at work, but would like to look up things?

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's usually decided by popularity, most music sites base suggestions on that. I'm sure it's not intentional, but it gives the impression you're sharing space with a bunch of teenagers just discovering 80s music. If you are the cold-blooded mature sort who favors Kraftwerk one would assume you have already embraced or rejected Morrissey or Talking Heads.

like you really know who trisomie 21 is (u s steel), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's a massive problem with all recommendation systems - you used to get things like "You bought a Beatles album - check out these other 10 Beatles albums!" on Amazon but it's a bit better now. People are looking at how to predict diverse and unexpected recommendations but it's not a mature art yet.

seandalai, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to kill that Brasso advert.

― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:25 (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Twice in the space of 10mins, never buying any of their fucking products...

Neil S, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 13:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

pay the tenner a month (if you have an iphone)

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 14:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Or invest in a minidisc recorder and edit the ads out.

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

You're going to need a hell of a sales pitch to get me to 'invest' in any more minidisc shite.

Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

The group’s revenues for 2009 were £11.32 million, but its cost of sales was £18.82 million, plus distribution costs of £608,711 and administrative expenses of £8.29 million.

The result: an operating loss of £16.4 million for 2009 as a whole, and a net loss after taxation of £16.66 million

http://musically.com/blog/2010/11/22/spotify-ltd-reveals-16-66m-loss-for-2009/

James Mitchell, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Still, though: All the Kraftwerk albums!

Mark G, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

all?

koogs, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah.

Oh, OK, not all. Not the first three, or "Exceller-8" or "Elektro-Kinetic"....

Mark G, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

what plans do the spotify bigwigs have to change that around? is this coming year going to make or break? surprised the major labels haven't clubbed together to create their own version yet, maybe in 2017 eh

NI, Monday, 22 November 2010 20:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

surprised the major labels haven't clubbed together to create their own version

they pretty much have with Spotify - the labels have a huge chunk of equity.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Monday, 22 November 2010 21:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

They've changed the pricing structure for one thing (now there's a £5/month not-so-premium option), and they've capped the amount that new users can listen to for free each month. And it always feels like the ads are getting more annoying.

seandalai, Monday, 22 November 2010 23:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

pro tip #1: to mute adverts, press pause, lower volume, and press play again

pro tip #2: dub your spotify playlists onto cassettes, but be at the ready with your finger on the pause button of your tape deck for those adverts. afterwards you can just listen to your tape and not have any adverts, a proper mixtape, like the good old days.

jumpskins, Monday, 22 November 2010 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

or just pay 10 quid a month for no ads and the best iphone app there is

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 00:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

I was grooving on this for a couple months til Spotify apparently clamped down on my US residence and I'm disabled from playing much anything. Might give it another try if I can find another IP-faker.

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 03:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

or just pay 10 quid a month for no ads and the best iphone app there is

EMPHATIC CO-SIGN

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 08:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would if I used it more than I do.

Mark G, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 09:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

pro tip #23: dub your spotify playlists onto cassettes minidisc, but be at the ready with your finger on the pause button of your tape deck 'split tracks' button for those adverts . or afterwards. You can just listen to your tape it later and do it then, then go back and remove any tracks of 30 secs or thereabouts (check first in case they are short tracks for real. Then you will have a proper mixtape, and not have any adverts like the good old days.

Mark G, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 09:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

pro tip #23: dub your spotify playlists onto cassettes minidisc, but be at the ready with your finger on the pause button of your tape deck 'split tracks' button for those adverts . or afterwards. You can just listen to your tape it later and do it then, then go back and remove any tracks of 30 secs or thereabouts (check first in case they are short tracks for real. Then you will have a proper mixtape, and not have any adverts like the good old days.

TS: Tape vs. Minidisc, which of these two is most the outdated technology in 2010?

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

the most outdated even

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

tapes ain't that outdated, they were hip just a moment ago (chillwave, witch house etc.)

V79, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fuck tape.

(on my iPhone that initially came out as 'faucet rape', fuck a Steve Jobs)

Friday: vuvuzela club meeting (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

So Spotify on my laptop crashed and I had to uninstall and now it won't let me install again for free? Is this right?

specifically, the word talking (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ahh, it seems so.

specifically, the word talking (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp - do you have a link for this? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem...

That doesn't make sense - the Spotify client should be independent of your user account and your user account should be independent of any one computer or installation. E.g. I was able to download and install the official Linux client (which you need a subscription to use), I just couldn't log in until I paid up.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 11:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Every time I tried to open spotify - windows would have some message (yes, Vista...) (often a different message) saying it couldn't open it, or it wasn't supported, or the pragramme has not opened properly and will now close. I tried to download an update but I just got into a loop of "you've already got it" or "it's already open". So I uninstalled it (and even then Windows wasn't happy). Went to d/l another freebie but it seems I need a code and/or money. It's a pity because it worked like a dream until to-day. Sigh.

specifically, the word talking (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Anyone with Spofity Premium here?

I am not on Spotify Premium yet, and I have also yet to have an mp3 player, but I do consider to do something about both. There are just a few things I am interested in facts about.

- I guess I will go for an iPod, but if I go for a different player, will the offline version of Spotify still work?
- Perhaps the most important question is about adding mp3s not on Spotify to the playlist. I am aware this is possible on Spotify (even on the free version), but is it also possible to add mp3s from your mp3 player in the offline version or will non-Spotify songs only work on the online version of Spotify? This is rather important because Spotify is, after all, far from complete (Beatles, for starters....).

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 17 December 2010 13:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

1) Spotify doesn't work on an iPod. You'll need an iPhone (which also works as an MP3 player through iTunes synching).

2) You can add non-Spotify songs to Spotify playlists on your computer. If you mark these playlists as "offline" on your iPhone, and if you have the iTunes integration options activated on both computer and phone (note that they aren't switched on by default), then the non-Spotify tracks will synch to your phone.

mike t-diva, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

PS - you don't need to plug your phone into your computer for the non-Spotify tracks to synch - this will happen wirelessly.

mike t-diva, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

it does work on ipod touch afaik

e.g. delete via naivete (ledge), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

But iPod touch is also a phone. I don't need a phone. Already got a Nokia.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

But iPod touch is also a phone. I don't need a phone. Already got a Nokia.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, December 17, 2010 5:15 PM (1 minute ago)

iPod Touch is not also a phone

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 22:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

a lot of ppl refer to the iPod Touch as the iPhone w/o the phone

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

I suppose the point is it needs a net connection, right? Checked and my Nokia is not available with Spotify. At least not yet.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't know much about Spotify, but I do know you can get online on an iPod Touch via wifi

markers, Friday, 17 December 2010 22:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

It seems like iPod Touch is the thing. Looks like fancy tool after all. A bit expensive, but then, the alternative to Spotify for me would be to get an iPod Classic, which is even more expensive, and then spend a year or two, plus 3-4 external HDs, transferring my entire CD collection onto it.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wait, an iPod Touch is also a phone but an iPod Classic is more expensive? Also, why is your enire CD collection not yet digitised? I threw out like 800 CDs recently because they're worse than useless.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, get a high-capacity MP3 player, get an external hard drive, rip all your CDs at 256-320 kbps (you only have to do it once) and enjoy life. Everything I have ever owned is always with me and I've got backups at home.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wait, an iPod Touch is also a phone but an iPod Classic is more expensive?

Here an iPod classic seems to cost around 200 NOK (roughly 35$) more than an iPod Touch (which is not a phone). Remember the iPod Classic is of very solid material, plus it has enormous capacity.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 00:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I see what you mean. Per Gb though the Classic wins hands down.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Still a bit sceptic towards the idea of transforming a few thousand CDs into mp3 though. Would take some time....

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Which is why having Spotify on the player, and only adding the files not on Spotify, would save a considerably amount of time.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

It takes time, but it's your music, you own it, it will never be taken away, and no ads.

Back in the day it took me several weeks to convert my music, but I didn't have music databases to autopopulate track names, and I had to burn all the MP3s to CD-Rs (part of what I chucked out recently was ~150 CD-Rs full of CD-to-MP3 rips). You don't have to worry about any of that now.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

I know I'm evangelising, but really, it's a no-brainer imo.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Still a bit sceptic towards the idea of transforming a few thousand CDs into mp3 though. Would take some time....

This + same dilemma with vinyl = being a lazy fuck and only listening to Spotify or new stuff I download.

There must be millions of people in the world with yards of vinyl doing nothing but being part of a
collection.

Somehow people opting for iPod/iPhone + Spotify over digitising what they already own saddens me, and it shouldn't really - ultimately the important thing is being able to hear the music - but I think what happens is the non-available-on-Spotify stuff gets forgotten.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Spotify is also worth it for, like, for instance, being able to have El De Barge's self titled solo debut on the player. It was deleted ages ago from all kinds of commercial purchase and I have also not been able in any possible way to find it on Pirate Bay or similar.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

There must be millions of people in the world with yards of vinyl doing nothing but being part of a
collection.

I hardly have any vinyl at all. It was all about casettes for me, but I rebought most of the ones I actually liked on CD.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

but I think what happens is the non-available-on-Spotify stuff gets forgotten.

There is no danger of me ever forgetting about The Beatles or Pink Floyd. Or Travis for that matter. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

We'll always need someone to remember Travis.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Spotify is also worth it for, like, for instance, being able to have El De Barge's self titled solo debut on the player. It was deleted ages ago from all kinds of commercial purchase and I have also not been able in any possible way to find it on Pirate Bay or similar.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:20 (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ah, yeah, you want a network connection for stuff like that.

onimo I've got four milk crates of vinyl under the stairs, no way am I ripping all of that. Completely reasonable.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

The concept of Arcade Fire is quite interesting. They are not available on commercial download nor Spotify, yet their album topped a lot of chart this summer. Or maybe exactly that was why? People had to buy the album, as the songs weren't available alone.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

onimo I've got four milk crates of vinyl under the stairs, no way am I ripping all of that. Completely reasonable.

I see "reasonable" as "it's acceptable that I can't be arsed right now as there's things to do and loads on Spotify anyway" but a small part of me feels really bad that I've got boxes of 7" singles that haven't seen a turntable since they were in my last house 9 years ago.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Then again how easy was it to click on the wee green button and cue up a wee drunken 10 Beefheart song playlist in memory? Greatness of spotify/youtube/grooveshark instant access right there.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp yeah, I don't even know where my turntable is anymore. Only really hanging onto the vinyl because I loved it so much. CDs were always a bit cheap-looking and sad, and cassettes were disgusting savages.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

cassettes were disgusting savages

true but then for teenage me they were the gateway to everything I'd never heard and couldn't afford. I've still got 80's c90 playlists in my head from long lost tapes friends gave me to an extent that it's sometimes jarring when the wrong song comes on next when I play an old song on spotify.

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ah yeah, I should draw a distinction between home dubs/mix tapes and pre-recorded dog turds.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 01:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Like my first ever introductions to e.g. Bauhaus or Big Black or Minutemen were on tapes friends made me - usually put together from piles of 7" or 12" singles or even from bits of tapes they had. These tapes got played to death so that in my head that's the order those songs should be in. It's strange to think my kids will never see/hear/treasure music in the same way (I'm sure they'll still love music but their voyages of discovery will be alien to me - much more alien than mine were to my dad's).

xp gettin all nostalgic :)

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is getting WAY off track now (and probably the most predictable cassette comment in history) but it was the most fun ever making mix tapes for friends because you had to pack it all into two collections of 44 minutes that started and ended well. Loved that.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

cassettes were disgusting savages

I have no problem agreeing today, but for clumsy me, they were more solid than vinyl, and didn't break as easily. :)

I switched directly from tapes to CD in 87-88 though.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

One thing I don't miss is home splicing kits.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tape salad. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

When I digitised my collection around 5 yeard ago, it was awesome! Just plonking down with a bunch of CDs, slowly going through and listening to all these CDs while by computer whirred away was an incredible way to find music that I'd forgotten about. 900 CDs will only take you a month or so, and it'll be great fun. I'm envious!

전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm redigitising my collection at the moment, mainly because I've found that I can hear the difference between 128 and 320kbps, especially for reggae. I'm taking my time, not regarding it as a chore, and enjoying rediscovering some great music.

On the difference between 128 and 320 kbps, it's no so much on headphones - but through the computer speakers. Some reggae albums sound like a thin version of themselves on 128.

They should put Autumn Almanac's words on the side of buses: There is probably no God...get a high-capacity MP3 player, get an external hard drive, rip all your CDs at 256-320 kbps (you only have to do it once) and enjoy life

Bob Six, Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh and geir, knowing how much you like sound quality, try and rip your CDs in Lossless format (there's a setting in the preferences of iTunes to do it). It'll take up a lot more space, so check that you've got the hard disk for it (I'm guessing you'd be buying a new drive to put all this music on anyway). And being lossless, it'll be pristine CD quality, rather than losing some sound information. Some people can't hear the difference, others (lke myself) can, so if you've got a decent sound system or decent headphones, go lossless.

전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Saturday, 18 December 2010 13:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

(when I say computer speakers, referring to harman kardon soundsticks btw)

Bob Six, Saturday, 18 December 2010 13:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

talking about the difference between 128 and 320 in 2010?! So there is a reason for all these shitty rips floating around then. :)

historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Saturday, 18 December 2010 13:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've living with them for far too long, sure. But for a variety of reasons I'm not into file-sharing, so haven't contaminated the delicate ear-drums of others.

Bob Six, Saturday, 18 December 2010 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

you're a disgusting savages.

jumpskins, Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh and geir, knowing how much you like sound quality, try and rip your CDs in Lossless format (there's a setting in the preferences of iTunes to do it). It'll take up a lot more space, so check that you've got the hard disk for it (I'm guessing you'd be buying a new drive to put all this music on anyway). And being lossless, it'll be pristine CD quality, rather than losing some sound information. Some people can't hear the difference, others (lke myself) can, so if you've got a decent sound system or decent headphones, go lossless.

I will be keeping the CDs for home use anyway, and through earphones, 256/320 doesn't make all that much difference from lossless. If I go lossless, even an iPod Classic will only have space for a small minority of the tracks I want to have in it.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

talking about the difference between 128 and 320 in 2010?! So there is a reason for all these shitty rips floating around then. :)

Actually I have a bit of fear regarding 128. Spotify is already the most popular way of enjoying music legally these days, at least among the kids. So one can imagine a lot of people have already gotten more or less addicted to it.

Now, of course, the fact that people are addicted to Spotify would make it natural for them to exploit that to make more people actually pay for it. And, well, if that happens that is fine ($15 a month for almost all the music in the world isn't exactly a ripoff), but I fear the kids will continue preferring the free version even if they slowly make it less user-friendly. So, imagine Spotify moving the sound quality of their free version down to 128, and the kids still being content with that. Then you'll have a generation of music listeners who have grown up on REALLY horrible sound quality. I suppose they'll be as crazy as those 60-something who still refuse to listen to music in stereo....

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Another deal is those old 80s/early 90s CDs I have that are simply recorded much lower than today's CDs. Sure, actually this means better sound quality, as they are less compressed. But with the ear-protection limits on most of today's gear, those old tracks will sound way too tame. Those CDs sound just fine on my current portable CD, but I have understood that mp3 players usually have an even lower limit than portable CDs can have.

Of course the solution is always to use Audacity to turn up the sound of those lowly recorded mp3, so it's not like there is no solution.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Btw. I have just started with the long transfer job. Starting with stuff that is not available on Spotify. So nice to have those Beatles-tracks in my Spotify 60s year playlists where they belong. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't use spotify but I assumed it uses a low bitrate to stream. Anyway, even if people listen lossless, they might still be using budget equipment which isn't ideal for a lot of music. Due to the convenience culture there's already a generation of young people listening to mp3s of varying quality on audio equipment which is shit. The way we listen to music effects how we produce music and that really messes with me...How different music would be if everyone was listening to music on audiophile grade setups.

historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Saturday, 18 December 2010 19:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

A lot of recent music is definitely being mastered to sound good on mp3 players (i.e. heavily compressed), but my impression is that the dynamic range compression craze has calmed slightly down the past couple years compared to its peak around 2006-2007.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

ugh, there's music from a few years ago that's so horribly compressed that it's actually hard to listen to. That whole compression thing was just bloody ridiculous.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

yuge collection

interNET connection

jonathan from spotify's verbal tics are infuriating

One who would turn all to rodman (acoleuthic), Saturday, 18 December 2010 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

subscribe

Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 18 December 2010 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

is kidbrooke village sited on or near that gloriously dystopian estate I've occasionally walked/driven past

acoleuthic, Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

yknow with the matchstick and all

acoleuthic, Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

What thread was this revive meant to be on?

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

really want someone to write a little plug-in that hooks up to spotify and lets you correct the track titles and artist credits they've ballsed up before scrobbling to last.fm

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Had to delete and re-install the app; it was constantly freezing on me, maybe due to the vast number of playlists (also kept forgetting and re-loading the newer ones). Seems OK again now, though.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

What thread was this revive meant to be on?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:47 (1 hour ago)

have you not been using spotify of late

I mean, their adverts are presumably localised but you're even closer to Kidbrooke Village than I am so

acoleuthic, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe they are super-localised and are all 'well nobody's gonna move from the Cator Estate to Kidbrooke Village amirite'

me : matt dc :: kbp : autumn almanac

acoleuthic, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

I haven't used Spotify for a while. On my computer it tends to stop working. Lots of things do.

So I haven't heard these adverts, though I went to school in Kidbrooke and now live, I suppose, half a mile from the Cator Estate.

the pinefox, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ahh right, sorry, I subscribed to Spotify a while back so am happily ad-free.

There's no such thing as Kidbrooke Village, yet. If it's what I think it is, it'll be built on the site of the Ferrier Estate which is probably the place you describe and is the single most desperate place I've seen in South London, possibly in London full stop.

Actually now I think about it 'Kidbrooke Village' might be some development in progress on the outskirts of that. It'll all be gone soon enough, and either full of yuppies or full of housing benefit claimants made involuntarily homeless and put in yuppy flats that no one wants to buy, as is happening in Woolwich.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

surely it will track u from ip?

nakhchivan, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

'kidbrooke village' is like a parody of those optimistic estate agent inventions

nakhchivan, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think LJ, the Pinefox and myself are all within the catchment area for that but I'd imagine most of South London will get those ads.

Also, lol:

http://www.kidbrookekite.co.uk/2011/02/welcome-to-kidbrooke-village.html

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mmmm, villagey

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

ha, both those photos upthread are from nicohogg

he's def good at this

nakhchivan, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:33 (3 years ago) Permalink