... and he loves it, especially the singles, but also says it's too straightforward.
So now he's asked me to bring him the "weirdest electronic music" that I can think of.
Not inaccessible, dense, obtuse, obscure or difficult. Just weird and electronic.
I can think of a few things myself, but I thought I'd pose the question here as well.
What can the ILM hivemind recommend?
― stephen, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)
Bruce Haack obvv
― wilter, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:46 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/Rough-Trade-Shops-Various-Artists/dp/B00005YXNS
― blueski, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 23:49 (seventeen years ago)
seconding bruce haack I've posted dude's name on the internet a lot in the past couple days jeeze
― uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:00 (seventeen years ago)
Perrey & Kingsley Jean-Jacques Perrey Gershon Kingsley
in that order
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:02 (seventeen years ago)
How about Autechre Confield, definitely fits both weird and electronic.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)
"We Share Our Mother's Health"
― ablaeser, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:10 (seventeen years ago)
xpost but it might be inaccessible, dense, obtuse, obscure or difficult.
― wilter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:16 (seventeen years ago)
I guess I was thinking Stephen meant not necessarily those things; in that case, how about Matmos The Rose Has Teeth in the Mouth of a Beast.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:51 (seventeen years ago)
Matmos, Autechre both good suggestions. The Knife too. That Rough Trade comp has some great stuff on it too, nice selection of tracks. Not familiar with the rest but I'm taking note regardless. Thanks!
Now... what else?
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 00:54 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-zpjg6j4Q
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 31 July 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)
Sergei Paradzahanov - The Colour of Pomegranates
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 31 July 2008 01:08 (seventeen years ago)
Throbbing Gristle's 20 Jazz Funk Greats
― sleeve, Thursday, 31 July 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)
Haha you like Hercules & Love Affair
― Reatards Unite, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)
Satanstornade!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)
Kid 606 would be fun
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:25 (seventeen years ago)
Alejandro & Aeron, Boucha Blue Blazes.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)
Man, that is a great album. Pulling that out right now so I don't forget.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:49 (seventeen years ago)
v v weird and also v cool
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/05/pimmon-orquesta-del-arrurruz-4-cd-2001.html
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)
also definitely the *weirdest* of this brand of stuff i've ever heard
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:55 (seventeen years ago)
I'm guessing this character is new to electronic music so I'd say mid-late 90's early 00's Warp, i.e. Squarepusher, Aphex, Autechre, et al are generally a safe way to go. Accessible, enjoyable, and generally satisfy people looking for 'wierd' electronic music. At least for a 16 year old me, getting off on the idea of 'wierd electronic' music, this was my touchstone.
― mehlt, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:57 (seventeen years ago)
And I forgot Oval!
Endless Summer would be another good album to play.
― mehlt, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:58 (seventeen years ago)
yeah i was gonna say Richard D. James Album just might do the trick if dude wants odd and accessible
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 31 July 2008 02:58 (seventeen years ago)
Rather than predictable contrived IDM weirdness, how about something like DJ Koze? Or Villalobos? Matthew Herbert?
― Jacobw, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:04 (seventeen years ago)
Because predictable contrived IDM weirdness might sound unpredictable and uncontrived to fresh ears?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)
Endless Summer would be another good album to play.yeah i was gonna say Richard D. James Album just might do the trick if dude wants odd and accessible
I had pulled both of these out already before you guys suggested em. But definitely good choices.
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)
That's right (Xpost). I don't think he wants to listen to this music so that after he can go talk about it on ILM.
― mehlt, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:22 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think he wants to listen to this music so that after he can go talk bitch about it on ILM.
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)
Give him:
some Merzbow the new Dan Friel album \some Aphex Twin, but skip Richard D. James album and give him Hangable Auto Bulb instead for sure. also give him Mu's Afro Finger and Gel
― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe give him some of the accessible stuff plus a CD-R of that Pimmon album I linked to with the preface that "this is the stuff you might say isn't even music"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-zpjg6j4Q-- Steve Shasta, Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- Steve Shasta, Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
MR. JODOROWSKY PLEASE COME TO THE COURTESY COUNTER, YOUR PARTY IS WAITING FOR YOU
― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:31 (seventeen years ago)
alright so i set this guy up with Autechre's Confield this morning and now he's like, "wtf this is out there, i wanted something like Hot Chip's 'Over and Over,' that's weird to me"
so i think i'm gonna give him Computer World or maybe Silent Shout next. i dunno.
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:24 (seventeen years ago)
An interesting exercise in different conceptions of "weird", then!
Hot Chip sound completely normal, like Kylie without er Kylie.
How about Max Tundra?
― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)
The Chap?
― I know, right?, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:40 (seventeen years ago)
Dan Deacon?
― I know, right?, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)
good call! i actually thought about bringing Mastered by Guy at the Exchange but didn't, i'll keep that in mind though.
okay, let's add a qualifier: i think he's asking for good, weird and electronic. one of these does not fit Dan Deacon; i'll let you be the judge.
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:49 (seventeen years ago)
btw i just gave him Silent Shout, will update you guys soon on what he thinks.
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)
Cut Copy?
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:57 (seventeen years ago)
Dan Deacon? okay, let's add a qualifier: i think he's asking for good, weird and electronic. one of these does not fit Dan Deacon; i'll let you be the judge.
-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:49 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Fuck you
― I know, right?, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)
Good choice. Weird, dark, spooky, and accessible.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:05 (seventeen years ago)
no mention of Plaid yet?
― the next grozart, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:18 (seventeen years ago)
i'm just kidding, no offense. sheesh.
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)
Me (10:11:43 AM): thoughts on the cd? Him (10:11:48 AM): pretty awesome Me (10:12:20 AM): what do you like about it? Him (10:12:53 AM): i don't know what you call it. but i like the instrument / sounds that make the melody Him (10:13:01 AM): like they play a role that a guitar might do Him (10:13:15 AM): but it's all like electronic sounding
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)
this guy sounds like he has never in his life even accidentally encountered a single note of music not made by an analogue instrument, ever. jeez, even van halen used synths!
― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)
I second blueski's suggestion, that's an awesome compilation.
― willem, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think he wants to listen to this music so that after he can go bitch about it on ILM.
-- stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:24 (13 hours ago) Link
I thought that was implicit in my post!
And yeah Dan Deacon doesn't resemble anything close to good.
Cristian Vogel (and super colider,maybe) would be good too.
― mehlt, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)
Super_Collider is a nice suggestion, thanks
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
his thoughts on Jim O'Rourke's Eureka:
Me (1:51:07 PM): verdict? Him (1:51:12 PM): pretty good Me (1:51:30 PM): yay Him (1:51:55 PM): this would be stuff i would really like to listen to while falling asleep Him (1:52:14 PM): something big is a great song Him (1:52:25 PM): it's really different than all the rest
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)
Arthur Russell?
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
He asked for more O'Rourke and all I had here was Happy Days...
I'm not sure this is going to be pretty...
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)
Sympathy Nervous
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)
Him (1:52:14 PM): something big is a great song Him (1:52:25 PM): it's really different than all the rest
lol Bacharach
― jaymc, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)
Him (10:13:01 AM): like they play a role that a guitar might do Him (10:13:15 AM): but it's all like electronic sounding-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Linkthis guy sounds like he has never in his life even accidentally encountered a single note of music not made by an analogue instrument, ever. jeez, even van halen used synths!-- CharlieNo4, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:51 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- CharlieNo4, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:51 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Actually I think that's a somewhat perceptive/interesting way of talking about all the arpeggio on Silent Shout songs.
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)
Happy Days commentary:
Him (2:54:42 PM): the CD ended Me (2:54:51 PM): how was it? Him (2:55:13 PM): dude i really enjoyed it Him (2:55:18 PM): i could listen to that more Him (2:55:31 PM): my favorite part by far sounds like a jet engine idling Him (2:55:41 PM): like how it sounds when you hear a plane Me (2:55:55 PM): so you liked the 30-40 minute drone section? Him (2:56:13 PM): yeah i think the repetition is calming Him (2:56:33 PM): it's like an eloquent version of white noise Him (2:56:41 PM): mostly blank Me (2:57:13 PM): wow Me (2:57:17 PM): i sorta thought you would hate it
― stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)
which one has a young person's guide to drowning on it?
― I know, right?, Thursday, 31 July 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)
Me (2:57:13 PM): wow Me (2:57:17 PM): i sorta thought you would hate it
-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:16 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
hahaha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:08 (seventeen years ago)
Reminds me of one time where I played Main (firmament 3, nonetheless, which is among their more abstract stuff) to who was probably the owner of what is the worst taste in music I've ever met (not so much badtaste as much as just incredibly unaware and ignorant, so, nothing but absolute bottom of the barrel mainstream rock and pop, general pleb-dance music, "I don't like any rap - mutters something I can't entirely make out but I'm pretty sure I heard something about 'blacks' - except for Linkin Park, etc.) Either way, she actually liked it. "It's very smooth, it sounds like water. Very relaxing."
― mehlt, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:19 (seventeen years ago)
There should be a " after Linking Park. I don't know if it's evident or not but that was quote of her.
Also, while initially describing it, she asked me if it was like "Du Hast Mech."
― mehlt, Friday, 1 August 2008 00:21 (seventeen years ago)
Another coworker's analysis of Jim O'Rourke, after she heard Eureka all the way through:
Her (2:13:18 PM): i love him, hilarious Her (2:13:28 PM): he sounds like he's missing teeth and drinks pabst blue ribbon Her (2:20:26 PM): he smokes pall malls Her (2:20:28 PM): i can tell
― stephen, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)
when a neutral bystander is able to unlock the secret truth behind things
― mh, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)
What are these coworkers like? How old are they? What are they usually into?
― jaymc, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.mdmproofing.com/iym/tutorials/how-create-check-register/start-excel.gif
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)
lolol
― Steve Shasta, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:52 (seventeen years ago)
Ha. I just wanted some context, is all. :)
― jaymc, Friday, 1 August 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)
jaymc -
the guy is early '20s and listens to osborne brothers, del mccoury, david allan coe
the girl is mid '20s and listens to counting crows, joe purdy, ryan adams, van morrison, patti griffin, coldplay, muse
― stephen, Saturday, 2 August 2008 00:29 (seventeen years ago)
Comments from a coworker after hearing "Otis" by the Durutti Column:
(11:47:34 AM): def some electronica (11:47:37 AM): stuff going on (11:49:27 AM): its kind of pretty (11:49:57 AM): it's also kind of irritating to me bc of the high pitched guitar synthesized noise (11:51:46 AM): well mainly i was trying to see the high points (11:52:05 AM): bc it's interesting (11:52:08 AM): but .... (11:52:17 AM): maybe i'll have to listen a few more times (11:52:21 AM): to like it
... and then "Sketch for Summer," also by the Durutti Column:
(11:55:02 AM): see what i mean though with all this synthesized stuff, it sounds JUST LIKE the background music to my ducktails nintendo game (11:55:03 AM): i swear (11:59:01 AM): it sounds electronic? (11:59:05 AM): and whiney (11:59:14 AM): dont really know how to musically describe that (12:00:43 PM): power of articulation is low (12:00:45 PM): haha (12:00:52 PM): but i know what im talking about
― stephen, Monday, 11 August 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)
I wouldn't go the spazzy IDM route. That stuff hasn't aged well, and it's more "weird" than weird anyway.
The O'Rourke was a good one. What about...
William Basinski: Shortwave Music Yellow Magic Orchestra: Solid State Survivor Vladislav Delay: Multila Suicide: s/t Thomas Brinkmann: Klick Alvin Lucier: I am Sitting in a Room Holger Czukay: Canaxis
― Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)
Cool list there, thanks. I own a few of those, will definitely consider loaning those out. :)
― stephen, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 00:33 (seventeen years ago)
Kelley Polar
― the next grozart, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 00:51 (seventeen years ago)
i had a girlfriend who i used to work with and any time i put on anything that even REMOTELY sounded like vini reilly she would say: "is this the dreary column again?"
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 00:59 (seventeen years ago)
Four Tet; Borderline inaccessible and sometimes dense. But definitely electronic and surely to many...weird
― Maxemillian, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)
William Basinski's Disintegration Loops is one of the most moving pieces I've heard, but requires a lot of patience.
(xp)
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 12 August 2008 01:20 (seventeen years ago)
Asmus Tietchens' early lps on Sky Lithops: Uni Umit
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 03:21 (seventeen years ago)
F.X. Randomiz - Goflex
The League of Automatic Music Composers - The League of Automatic Music Composers 1978 - 1983
Felix Kubin - Axolotl Lullabies
These are all pretty awesome.
― Cliftonb, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:33 (seventeen years ago)
fennesz - plays
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:43 (seventeen years ago)
I dunno Otis is pretty damn accessible. And no human should ever live without hearing at least one disintegration loop. But first maybe try the track Modena by Keith Fullerton Whitman, an all time top 50 fav. pieces of music ever for me. Unbelievably relaxing and supremely beautiful. captures a lot of the aesthetic and experimental qualities of someone like, say, terry riley, but just amazing to listen to while idly staring out of the window of a bus of what have you.
― mehlt, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
and on that note (xpost thanks for reminding me) Ekkehard Ehlers plays john cassavettes = otm.
― mehlt, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)