― and what, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
yeah, its ace. we will never see their like again.
― max r, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink
make mine a 99
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink
Flawed genius. Side One is amazing of course. Side two suffers from lost interest a little by the time "Build A Fire" is finally over.
― everything, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
'the white room' is my favorite track
― and what, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
xpost. I should mention that I've only got the US version which is handicapped somewhat.
― everything, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
there's difference?
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:03 (5 years ago) Permalink
isn't it just that they had to take the crowd noise samples out?
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
classic in theory and practice!
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
xp: wiki sez they had to remove "U2 Rattle n Hum"-sampled crowd noise and "Last Train" and "No More Tears" are cut in half. Bummer, now I'm going to have to track down a swede copy or sumthin
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
i need to dl all the 12"/cd singles
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
i don't know how but i managed to get the uk version in a used bin way out in rural mn
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
its worth dling the white room sdtk too
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
the singles are all totally necessary for the "pure trance original" versions
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
anyone else see/hear any parallels between this and duck rock? dudes must have been fans of mclaren.
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:16 (5 years ago) Permalink
i think i've heard most of the singles, but i dont have them on the computer anymore
― artdamages, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:17 (5 years ago) Permalink
Y S I
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:20 (5 years ago) Permalink
Taking out the crowd noises is pretty significant. Especially at the beginning of the album which should sound like the start of an exciting rock concert. Instead it sounds like some kinda half-assed noise collage.
― everything, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:23 (5 years ago) Permalink
I don't really like the album that much. The singles are great but i) Last Train is not on the album properly and ii) What Time Is Love on the album is fluffed by the intro.
What is the US version? I have the vague idea that that might just have the singles the way you want to hear them.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
The US version is just the same but the crowd noises are omitted which generally makes all the side one songs begin and end clumsily. Then there's a different version of "Last Train", and "Build A Fire" is shorter by a couple of minutes. There may be some other differences too.
― everything, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
"3 A.M. Eternal" still sounds GRATE.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
Questions:
1. Did they "retire" their catalogue for 23 years or something like that? If so, can we expect a grand boxset in 8 years time, assuming such things still exist then?
2. Is the story that their Brit Award was found in a field near Glastonbury true, cos it sounds like a story to me.
3. Are any of Jimmy Cauty's post-KLF releases worth checking out?
― everything, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
one of my all time favorite albums. i think it's brilliant the whole way through, i listen to it quite often to this day, and i had it when it came out in 90 or 91 and i was in 5th grade or whatever.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 01:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
this album would be crippled without the crowd sounds! Why did they have to take them out for the US one?
― Dan I., Wednesday, 3 October 2007 01:58 (5 years ago) Permalink
Oh, U2 sampling. Sorry, I wasn't paying enough attention
― Dan I., Wednesday, 3 October 2007 02:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
i was in 5th grade or whatever.
A ten year old into The KLF? I now believe in God.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 02:03 (5 years ago) Permalink
You kidding? My 12-y-old sis used to walk around saying "KLF is gonna ROCK YA!" that whole damn summer.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 02:16 (5 years ago) Permalink
"A ten year old into The KLF? I now believe in God."
hey man, "3am eternal" followed by the tammy wynette version of "justified and ancient", it was pop dance bliss. all those early 90's dance jams were my shit.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
All the ones with Bill are, but The Magnificent most of all.
Most of the others aren't especially - the Dandy Warhols remix is basically a bluffer's guide to the entire Blacksmoke audio catalogue, so try that first. Solid Gold Chartbusters was dire. The Token Kings/Custerd have some decent stuff, but it's unclear how much Jimmy actually did before faffing off. If he was on that track with Simon Day playing the lighthouse-keeper at the end of the Orbcast, then YES.
All of Bill's post-KLF records are GREBT.
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
The japanese mix is flawed too
YSI
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
Does anyone have the ambient tracks from the aborted white room movie that formed this? Also, have you guys read about the BLACK ROOM?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
White Room movie soundtrack is actually much more songy, less ambient (including a version of Born Free inna Build A Fire stylee. Build A Fire itself has an extra verse or two too!). Black Room demos are just Extreme Noise Terror in a rehearsal room, never went any further than that.
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 10:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
(would leo White Room OST but I'm moving in a week and my CDs are in storage already)
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 10:58 (5 years ago) Permalink
-- Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 October 2007
i think i was about ten when i got the "justified and ancient" single!
― max r, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 10:59 (5 years ago) Permalink
Lots of 10 year-olds digged "3 AM Eternal" i 1991.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:32 (5 years ago) Permalink
i guess it is interesting to consider what it is about that track that appealed to young kids at that time. it was definitely very different even to other pop dance acts around at the time (as i remember, snap, c+c music factory, etc were all pretty big in 90-91...).
― pipecock, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:49 (5 years ago) Permalink
science fiction mysticism always big hits with the youth
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
catchphrases too.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
It's the ice cream van, innit.
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
it was definitely very different even to other pop dance acts around at the time (as i remember, snap, c+c music factory, etc were all pretty big in 90-91...).
-- pipecock, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:49 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
the beats weren't that different tho, most of the time. and they had a rapper + exciting sounds (sirens or whatever) that should've appealed to kids easily. i loved the Timelords record and was 10 when it hit #1. i think their enthusiasm for big videos, TOTP, crazy costumes and filling the stage with a variety of different characters also really boosted their appeal to us in the 'i wanna be like them' sense.
despite this i never did buy The White Room - probably because i'd read it didn't feature the single mixes. It would've been my 3rd or 4th album if i had bothered tho.
― blueski, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
plus, Jimmy and Bill are like "Best Friends"
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
"i think their enthusiasm for big videos, TOTP, crazy costumes and filling the stage with a variety of different characters also really boosted their appeal to us in the 'i wanna be like them' sense."
the mention of TOTP makes me assume youre from england, which i guess makes it more obvious how they would be popular there as they were on the pop charts. in the US, im not sure they had such a large scale impact, i know at least locally their tune got play on the pop stations but usually at night on their "dance mix" type shows. i actually dont recall ever seeing a video for them at the time, either. but i know that i was not the only kid in my class who was feeling them....
― pipecock, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Does anyone have the ambient tracks from the aborted white room movie that formed this?
-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:44 (9 hours ago) "
i can leonardo if you want
― artdamages, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
yes pipecock. i would find it v strange and impressive for young kids in the US to have heard of them at the time let alone be into them having assumed they had no real chart success there).
most Brits my age and a few years older probably appreciate them with the pop hits as the starting point and indeed their artistic apex, funny as that may sound. those older (e.g. college students at the time) may have been more likely to have got into them for the leftfield/ambient stuff? i think now, esp. in the US, it seems more likely that downloading teenagers would also be more likely to start with 'Chill Out' rather than the hit singles too, at least probably valuing the ambient stuff above the 'silliness'. But maybe not.
― blueski, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
Yea, that'd be cool brah
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
Meanwhile, I should torrent the video stuff rather than watching dodgy youtubes
their videos were played on MTV in the US.
― Display Name, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
prompting a certain US student not really into dance music at the time to ask "is this what raves are like???" -- playing sitars with bandsaws, etc.
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
I enjoy getting big air in my truck while blasting last train to trancecentral. unfortunately, and this is probably totally hypocritical of me to say so, a lot of the material on this record hasn't aged that well. I think I just didn't listen to it on repeat enough times when I was 14
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
i'd rather listen to Ex:El but that is me
― blueski, Thursday, 4 October 2007 23:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
I loved both!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 4 October 2007 23:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
I have both the UK and US versions (on CD) and the UK is much better, esp. "Last Train to Trancentral."
Also, the video for "3 a.m. Eternal" was the first time I had ever seen a cell phone. I was seven or eight.
― naus, Friday, 5 October 2007 03:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/the-klf-the-white-room-round-25-nicks-choice/
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
This album is good, but I always felt it never reached the giddy mania of a lot of their singles by replacing them with more impressionist versions. Might need to have another listen. I love the KLF's philosophy and aesthetic. I miss bands like this - so early on in the history of dance music and yet able to create a complete packaged vision as opposed to just releasing dance-pop records.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Cheggers Plays Populous (snoball), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
not nearly enough trainset footage in last train to trancentral video.
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
i know someone who bought nick colers akai which came with a chunk of klf sample discs
― mark e, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Build a Fire" was pretty classic, but I agree with the above in that I don't think it held up well (kinda the point, no?)
― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
by replacing them with more impressionist versions.
time travel?
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Friday, 27 April 2012 00:16 (1 year ago) Permalink