St. Vincent - a.k.a. Annie Clark;

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Just came accross this gal - very interesting music; multi-instrumentalist, opera-cum-broadway delicious Indie with a nod to Nico and Kate Bush. Opening on small tours now, with a possible full-length and tour comming this summer.

Great stuff.

christoff, Sunday, 8 April 2007 17:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw this diminutive minx open for John Vanderslice this past Saturday night. Her fretwork is notably accomplished and while playing solo her effects pedals and samplers laid out an ample and surprisingly varied setlist.

christoff, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

She should call her band The Grenadines.

jaymc, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

That "diminutive minx" post is really something.

nabisco, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Is Christoff Squirrel Police?

Lolpez, Friday, 21 March 2008 18:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

do yourself a favor and get to one of her shows.
i like the album, but it was nothing compared to the live show.
it was one of those ones that makes you go back to and like the recordings infinitely more.

oh, & her guitar is the sex.

srslyghengiskhan, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

lol @ diminutive minx & guitar is the sex. this thread is weird.

anyway, im enjoying the new album

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 12:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

new album better than debut album

akm, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 13:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

the exact kind of album which is know is good but it's just not my cup of tea

Zeno, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 13:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

SFJ in the New Yorker luvs him some St. Vincent with blog and notebook posts

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/sashafrerejones/2009/05/annie-clark.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

xtc influence ...hmmm, could be good

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 May 2009 13:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

this record really is pretty darn good

was v surprised to see her on letterman

badpowderfinger (electricsound), Monday, 10 August 2009 03:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually, letterman is fairly consistent when it comes to booking good musical guests.

borntohula, Monday, 10 August 2009 16:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

kinda surprised by this record.i like 'the party' a whole lot.

cherry blossom, Monday, 10 August 2009 16:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

there's something about her style that seems not to make big waves or grab loads of attention, but everything she does is terrific, and it's nice to see that she seems to have this gradual accretion of people who realize that. just slowly, steadily getting bigger and better.

nabisco, Monday, 10 August 2009 18:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

isn't it odd she hasn't made it bigger though? first of the sufjan connection (or is this a bad thing now?) plus the hot minx thing seems like decent enough premises.

the letterman performance was really good yes.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 10 August 2009 18:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't know -- I can actually see how, when people read descriptions of her records, they might not find a hook that's really pressing or motivating. The Sufjan connection is probably a negative, in that sense: it's possible that people think, you know, "singer-songwriter," "nice arrangements," "Sufjan side player," umm, let's just say it's easy to imagine those things adding up to a common variety of run-of-the-mill record nobody rushes out to buy. It's tough when your hook is that you're just really good at what you're doing, because people sort of have to take someone's word on that.

I think what tends to really prove it with her is live stuff, and to be honest she's one of few acts going where there are web videos of her performances I will actually go back to and watch again, periodically, just because she's that good -- the Pitchfork.tv "Cemetery Gates" thing with her is superb and (I think) better than the album, with a lot more breathing room; and the way she used to do "Paris Is Burning" solo is just terrific to watch. She covered "I Dig a Pony" for that Takeaway Show series, or something, and that one gets me. There's something about her performing that's really special and pretty far beyond what she gets on record, in my opinion.

nabisco, Monday, 10 August 2009 18:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually, letterman is fairly consistent when it comes to booking good musical guests.

haha after a week with multiple dave matthews performances she was a major breath of fresh air

badpowderfinger (electricsound), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

I should probably give this more time, but every time I check her out I start thinking about Miranda July's "Me and You and Everyone We Know" and I get a little sick and have to turn it off.

dlp9001, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

eep. i hate that movie.

i almost saw her open for another act two years ago, but based on the sufjan connection GF and i gave her a pass. maybe we shouldn't've?

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

i love her and hate sufjan fwiw

badpowderfinger (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

AC played guitar for me on a tour a few years back and I can say with no doubt she is one of the most talented things going. So smart+wild soul. Killer player. Killer lady.

bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 02:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

i like this Actor LP a lot on 1st listen. reminds me of the first Bird And The Bee LP. not heard her earlier stuff yet tho. and i think i hate sufjan so...

unban dictionary (blueski), Sunday, 6 September 2009 20:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

I just got into Actor this week too. I think I must have been confusing her first album with something else I heard at the time, something more floaty and folky and whatever. I went back after discovering how much I liked Actor and ended up liking Marry Me too.

And now I'm mad because I spent two years not listening to the first album because I confused it with something lame.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 6 September 2009 20:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

here's that letterman performance ftr - you still don't get anything this brilliantly weird on the jonathan ross show

unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 8 September 2009 18:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

I like this loads.

Yes, I am playing Last.fm/Spotify bingo but it's leading me to lots of nice things. One of those spiderweb connection things that occasionally actually works.

...and the wizard blew his horn (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 14:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

i like it

DustyLoops, Monday, 12 October 2009 00:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

who was/is bear bear bear?

akm, Monday, 12 October 2009 04:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

castanets

sound of contusion (electricsound), Monday, 12 October 2009 04:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Awesome guitar sound on track 7.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 12 October 2009 08:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

So my DIS-contributing friend told me about this record. And how it's like the best thing released all year.

On first listen, it's not far off. Brilliant stuff.

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

there are some records i just feel too protective of to want to allow other people to listen to

this is kinda one of them

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

(He actually linked me Southall's blog, which really did convince me to give this a go, so chalk another one off, Nick!)

this does feel like some amazing genre-transcending secret

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

So she's more than just a female version of that bearded American indie stuff beloved on National Public Radio? I've only done quick listens online so far.

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, whatever you think it sounds like based on that description, you're about 83% wrong.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's about as far removed from what she actually sounds like as you could possibly get without describing, like digital hardcore or something

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 17:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

I had listened to her music and thought 'meh', then I saw her live and it was brilliant, then I've returned to the recordings and I'm 'meh' again. I guess I can keep trying.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

i am reminded slightly of late-period scott walker

'black rainbow' through 'laughing with a mouth of blood' and then 'marrow' is, like, incredible

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

every time i hear 'Save Me From What I Want' i want it to carry on into LFO's 'Loch Ness'

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ha, this is exactly what I meant way upthread -- most of the terms you'd use to describe her music really do risk making her sound like "bearded American indie stuff beloved on National Public Radio." And to be honest with you, I would actually not argue that she's totally categorically distinct from that stuff. I really don't think she's that far away, unfashionable thought that might sound to some people. The difference is mostly just that she's a billion times more interesting and better at it than most. Artier, more graceful, more musical, better with mood, more imaginative, etc.

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^ One benefit of this is that anytime someone who likes popular indie along those lines asks you for a recommendation, St. Vincent is something good and interesting but exactly in the right vicinity for them to like. I do wish her records sounded as good as she does live, though.

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

There's a lot to be said for doing something a billion times more interestingly and effectively than most! God, this is good stuff. This is what is meant by the word 'realised' in reference to albums. Also, 'uncategorisable'. Add 'The Neighbors' and possibly 'The Strangers' to my list of holy shit this is fucking amazing

This is indeed the sort of album which should appeal to a fairly wide market of at least slightly committed sonic enthusiasts. A recommendation as likely to work on me as on someone whose taste rarely gets more leftfield than Portishead, or someone who has completely renounced mainstream pop for Steely Dan or whatever.

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

I continue to be baffled by the love for this one, I still vastly prefer her debut to this one. I keep returning to it in the hopes of discovering what everyone else seems to be hearing in it but, nope, still just decent sounding to me.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 01:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ha, this is exactly what I meant way upthread -- most of the terms you'd use to describe her music really do risk making her sound like "bearded American indie stuff beloved on National Public Radio." And to be honest with you, I would actually not argue that she's totally categorically distinct from that stuff. I really don't think she's that far away, unfashionable thought that might sound to some people. The difference is mostly just that she's a billion times more interesting and better at it than most. Artier, more graceful, more musical, better with mood, more imaginative, etc.

I'm sure most would say I'm way off base, but I hear a lot of Kate Bush in St. Vincent (at least in the lead single from the new album).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 15 December 2009 02:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

The "Paint a black hole blacker" bits in "The Stranger" seem like an obvious Bushism.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 02:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

I recently caught her performing on Austin City Limits and it was beautiful. The music had a very slow weight that reminded me of many things, L'Altra maybe. I listened to the album again and was mostly bored. Maybe her next album will caputre the magic of her live performances. Even her vocals are the album aren't as beautiful as they are live.

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 05:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

If she's that much better live than on record, I need to see her live badly, because her records are awesome. Prefer the new one to the debut, but only got the debut on Saturday. Seems a little tamer.

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 07:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

I would say that her records are v v compressed compared to live -- this can be true of a great many records v. live situations

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 07:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

i don't hear anything beardy NPR dude about her music at all except that occasionally there are maybe hints of old timeyness to it - but it's much more urban (as opposed to rural, beardy, backwoodsy) sounding than that. glimpses of 1920s glamour rather than that old tyme music hall thing. she is, at her best, totally uncategorisable in the same way that classic old skool 4ad was: haunting, evocative, otherworldly and yet visceral and teeth and bones and blood and flesh rather than filmy ghosts

kate bush comparisons are so o_0 wtf becoz yes, all otherworldly gurl singer-songwriter auteurs must be cut from the same cloth and that is the ETHEREAL staitjacket oh yessss

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 11:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

I would say that her records are v v compressed compared to live

makes sense, you can hear it on the 'Marrow' intro where her "reach the parts that need oilin and fixin" line is a bit too low, quiet and lost in the choral haze.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 12:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

closest comparison i hear is suzanne vega but honestly i tend to think that a lot for female singers with flatter, less emotive voices and avante-garde leanings

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

kate bush comparisons are so o_0 wtf becoz yes, all otherworldly gurl singer-songwriter auteurs must be cut from the same cloth and that is the ETHEREAL staitjacket oh yessss

No, it's not that. What Paul in Santa Cruz heard is the best example of what I heard: "The "Paint a black hole blacker" bits in "The Stranger" seem like an obvious Bushism."

Actually, I don't think I've heard another artist that I've thought sounds like Kate Bush.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

(I should say that it's the way that portion of the song is arranged and sounds and maybe St. Vincent's delivery -- not the lyrics themselves -- that triggered the comparison for me)

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

i guess you could say some kate comparisons are more valid than others...

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

it just seems like such a lazy bad "female, a bit mad, slightly technological" reference point that it's come to be meaningless

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Who else is supposed to sound like Kate Bush?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

come on, i've heard it used to describe everyone from florence & the machine to voice of the sodding beehive

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

(anyway i don't actually care about this enough to argue - if it makes more people come around to st.vincent then fine use whatever terminology you want)

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 13:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Who else is supposed to sound like Kate Bush?

Bat for Lashes, Florence and the Machine, a couple of songs w/female vocals on the last M83 album (e.g., "Up").

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

Patrick Wolf sounds like Kate Bush occasionally, and very deliberately. Also dresses like her from time to time too. He has a penis.

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

But yeah, I was saying to Em the other day, I don't know how I'd describe St. Vincent. At all.

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Who else is supposed to sound like Kate Bush?

Blue Roses

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

one sad note - the album is solid gold awesome super brilliant for 7 tracks, but then loses momentum in the final stretch...'just the same but brand new' is really good, but 'the bed' and 'the party' slightly sabotage the flow

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

sheer martial panic of the slightly 'lonesome tears'-esque ending of 'black rainbow' into the similarly rising but this time utterly sweet rising motif of 'laughing...' = incredible feat of sequencing

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

erm delete the second 'rising'

dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Party has such beautiful lyrics though, Louis.

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Especially when she stops singing words.

exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

i realise i'm pretty late to this, but having discovered this through the ilx albums poll a couple of months ago, i can safely say it's the most played thing i;ve had in the house this year... jesus is it already mid-April? I'll be 60 before I know it.

village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 14:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Annie has certain co-lineage w/ Sufjan; what mighst bequeathest if thee parturitate? Immediate immaculate and blinding white-hot winged ascension?

Tonight's Austin City Limits (http://video.pbs.org/video/1697650631/) demonstrates an axe-maven extraordinaire with, yes, the red lips and white skin of the aforementioned "minx" entrenched. It's all true; and i love her for it.

God save St. V!

suspecterrain, Sunday, 19 December 2010 04:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

the Sufjanphonic Squee

buzza, Sunday, 19 December 2010 04:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

i want to eye fuck annie clark while she makes fuzzy noises with her electric guitar

jumpskins, Sunday, 19 December 2010 13:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well it seems you've come to the right pl

ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Sunday, 19 December 2010 13:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Out of everything I discovered through last year's albums poll, "Actor" is the album that I come back to time and again. Absolutely amazing. Had it on constant rotation for 12 months and I still come back for more.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

(realises he posted something similar only a few months back).

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Set me on fire.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2011 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is there a new album coming soon? Please!

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 23 May 2011 17:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

holy shit shes awesome

just sayin, Monday, 23 May 2011 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Really excited for a new album from her, but I'm sure I'm the only person on ILM that thought the last one was a minor disappointment. It seemed to be universally loved, but I wasn't as excited by it as I was by her debut.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 May 2011 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

The last one wasn't a disappoint, but it wasn't nearly as entrancing as Marry Me.

failure to recognize semi-ironic 'faggot' (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 23 May 2011 18:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

that big black cover, oh yeah.

i want to eyefuck her while she makes fuzzy noises with her pedals

jumpskins, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 07:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

So great.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 09:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wow. Yeah. "eyefucking". Great.

And you guys have a problem with how *I* talk about, say, Patrick Wolf on this board?

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 09:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wow. Yeah. "eyefucking". Great.

And you guys have a problem with how *I* talk about, say, Patrick Wolf on this board?

― Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:25 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

I have absolutely no problem with how you talk about Patrick Wolf, so long as you agree that he's mind-blowingly pretty and totally fuckworthy.

But, yeah, while Annie Clark is v. attractive, the proper focus should totally be on the fact that she is a total musical genius.

failure to recognize semi-ironic 'faggot' (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 18:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'd assumed DL was going "great!" at the cover rather than the weirdo posting above him.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 20:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

I should probably go back to the last album, I liked it but it never quite resonated with me.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 20:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

after seeing this thread i relistened to the last one again. i loved it before, still loving it.

so come right back, we have count dracula and we have adam rich (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Aw, Alex, I've come around on Patrick Wolf, but this isn't the thread for that.

I've just realised I've never actually listened to Marry Me. Which is completely remiss considering how much I loved Actor.

So it's like I get a brand new album now instead of having to wait for one!

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

To be fair Karen she does have some very large eyeballs

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 22:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haha! Oh I'm so looking forward to this. Why did I never check marry me?!?!

broodje kroket (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 22:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

New album Sept 13. Stoked.

Deverly (Bangelo), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Holy moley, her song Surgeon is absolutely dynamite!!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 29 July 2011 03:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's really good. Hated that high pitched ending though.

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Friday, 29 July 2011 12:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

listening to actor atm

markers, Friday, 29 July 2011 22:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Quick trainspotting question for the ILX brane:

The descending vocal part in the intro of this new song, "Surgeon?" It's referencing a big string melody from some kind of soundtrack, something John Barry-ish, or maybe 60s sci-fi -- something I remember mostly because it was prominently sampled as the breakdown of a rave/hardcore track at some point. It's sort of bugging me; anyone recognize those first two lines?

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

buzza, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

You Only Live Twice?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ah, thanks! Thinking it was a score for something sent me barking up all the wrong trees.

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Or at least the "score" part of the trees instead of the "title theme" part

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's from You Only Live Twice:

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

doh too slow

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

dope song, love the bassline

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

ha, i came here to ask the question nabisco just asked. it's been bugging me for the last week.

jed_, Friday, 12 August 2011 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would absolutely love this song if it wasn't for the lyric repetition part at the end of each verse phrase. Feels so unnecessary to me for it to happen eevvvvrryy time like that

Deverly (Bangelo), Friday, 12 August 2011 22:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

That new song is incredibe, best thing I've heard all year. Loved both her albums I'm now really excited about the new one.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 12 August 2011 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Actor was a weird album for me - I could tell it was good and not unpleasant to listen to but for some reason I could never really engage with it. Listening to Surgeon now and it's gorgeous... not sure about the prog workout at the end though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 August 2011 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/news/43603-video-st-vincent-cruel/

Another really great song from the new album. The video is really good too, very creepy.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think I might get quite militant about championing this new album. Absolutely wonderful. Everything I liked about the last one, only moreso.

Now he's doing horse (DL), Sunday, 28 August 2011 14:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Love the new album so much. It's a really odd record but just stunning in every way.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 2 September 2011 01:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Streaming on NPR right now. There is sounding really good so far, some really kinda wtf moments too. On first listen I'm liking this more than Actor (which, I know I'm alone on, but I thought it was a minor step down from the debut).

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 5 September 2011 03:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

yo thanks 4 the heads up, think i'll check out at least some of it later

markers, Monday, 5 September 2011 03:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

There's like several songs with these weird-ass moments with like spacey-synth and guitars that wouldn't have sounded out of place on that Destroyer album.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 5 September 2011 03:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

those are the best bits.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 5 September 2011 13:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

LOVE this

✇ (Tape Store), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 04:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/8661-st-vincent/

markers, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 06:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this album is great. I've not heard her other albums before either, so I feel like I just opened a whole box of goodies to discover.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 12:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

can't wait to hear this... gonna wait till i can buy it properly though.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 14:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is definitely one of the best records of the year.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 14:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Five tracks in and it's breaking my heart to hear such a lovely voice being wasted in the service of such useless deliberate indie shambolism. That enormous fuzzy bass noise she uses on everything is horrible.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Too many annoying Fiery Furnaces style "ooh look at me" tangents as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Difference here is that Fiery Furnaces often forget the song and never come back to it, where St. Vincent always does.

Also, what the hell does "useless deliberate indie shambolism" mean?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Production and arrangement-wise it sounds like a carefully studied mess.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

i like the progginess

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 17:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

i find it hard to hear anything she's produced as messy: if anything it's all fussy/neat/antiseptic (choose one)

it seems inevitable-in-retrospect that she'd get into analogue synth (n.b. this is not a complaint)

on one listen the songs struck me more as More Competent Songs In Annie Clark Idiom than as anything great or surprising, though one assumes that'll become more nuanced once i've heard it a little more. but the first time i listened to her seriously was listening to 'actor' a lot a few months ago, so it's a little too close, maybe.

thomp, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 18:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Strange Mercy" itself is such a fantastic song. I find that the fuzz and squelch - especially when married with how simple and elegant the melodies and songwriting are - is one of my favorite things about her overall sound.

Deverly (Bangelo), Monday, 12 September 2011 22:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

Five tracks in and it's breaking my heart to hear such a lovely voice being wasted in the service of such useless deliberate indie shambolism. That enormous fuzzy bass noise she uses on everything is horrible.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:12 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Too many annoying Fiery Furnaces style "ooh look at me" tangents as well.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:15 PM (1 week ago)

Production and arrangement-wise it sounds like a carefully studied mess.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:29 PM (1 week ago)

on board w/ Matt DC, i played this a couple days back & can't say it really grabbed me at all.

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 05:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

9.0

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15813-strange-mercy/

markers, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 05:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't hear shambolic here at all.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to Chloe In The Afternoon again and the production and the arrangement is just horrible, that guitar line and those drums just trampling across everything only just in time with everything. It's either been arranged by someone completely inept or, more likely, she's made a deliberate decision to reframe the song with such jarring elements. And I'm totally down with that being her aesthetic decision and I usually like it when people do that but really the results just sound like shit here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

that guitar line and those drums just trampling across everything only just in time with everything

matt dc makes unconscious effort to make this sound more awesome than i will probably finally think it is

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Unfortunately it's neither a good guitar line nor good drums.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 08:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

the final song on this album is so beautiful

akm, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 05:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm kind of confused by what definition of 'in time' we're using that this incredibly sequenced-sounding and somewhat metronomic drum beat could possibly be 'only just in time' with the incredible sequenced-sounding rest of the track

thomp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

a 'friend' of mine wrote a 'review' of the radiohead 'album' 'the king of limbs' on his 'blog' (i wasn't sure where i wanted my sarcastic air quotes in that sentence so i just went with all the options) where he was like OH MY GOD THAT PHIL SELWAY IS SUCH A MACHINE HOW DOES HE PLAY IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS ALL THE TIME ON ALL THESE TRACKS HE'S INHUMAN HE SOUNDS ALMOST PROGRAMMED and it's like c'mon. c'mon dude. think about it

also: incredibly, again, not incredible, oops

thomp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

I know it's a drum machine ffs. It's that it sounds sloppy and only-just-in-time when paired with the guitar line. Pretty sure the effect is intentional.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm worried about listening to this album. I thought Actor was one of the best and most persistently enjoyable records of recent times, and I really hope this doesn't fuck things up.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've refrained from commenting so far becuase the CD's not arrived yet and I've only listened to a downloaded version a couple of times on the iPhone while walking around town, but there's nothing to worry about. I'm not sure it's as good as Actor (although that took a long time to really worm its way into my affections), but even so, I'm confused by Matt's dislike of the opening track and other stated issues.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it is a drum machine. There's a drummer credited on the album and a lot of the parts sound 'human', it's just that they've been processed to sound electronic and quantised to get that robotic quality. I really like that approach - it's a smart way of combining electronic sounds with 'live' playing, and it complements her use of synth bass and weird compressed guitar fuzz.
Chloe is a bold opener, a development of the jarring rhythms of Marrow. Not the most immediate of tracks, but fantastic once it gets under your skin. At first I felt the album wasn't as good as Actor, but it's really sunk in now. It's just different, with more of a soul and r 'n b influence.

Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Another example of what I'm talking about is the drum beat on Strange Mercy, where one drum comes in a fraction late on the third beat of the bar. It's obviously a conscious decision, and if it is a drum machine then it's actually been programmed like that. There's a sort of studied sloppiness that you hear a fair bit in American indie (Animal Collective, Dirty Projectors etc) that always annoys me, partly because I always imagine the artists think they're being terribly clever when they do it.

Like, the rest of Strange Mercy is beautiful and floaty and feels like it needs a lot more room to breathe. I understand straightjacketing it in a robotic beat but being so deliberately messy feels like it just goes against the grain of the song for no apparent reason. I'm all for sloppiness in music when it makes everything feel spontaneous but this is the exact opposite.

I listened to this again and it's so frustrating because it's a great voice and a collection of good-to-great songs with a load of irritating production quirks getting in the way. The best songs here - Cruel, Champagne Year, the first 2/3rds of Surgeon, avoid that.

I really like that approach - it's a smart way of combining electronic sounds with 'live' playing, and it complements her use of synth bass and weird compressed guitar fuzz.

Hah, this is the bit I hate. See also the lumpy "I, I, I..." passage that leads up to the chorus of Cheerleader.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

I can see how it might seem lumpy, but I like the jarring bits. They rub up against the smoothness. I like going against the grain of the song. Doesn't always work, granted, but with St Vincent it keeps things interesting. I don't think of DP or SV as studiedly sloppy though. SV is a fan of J Dilla, who is famous for his use of unquantised beats to add a certain 'liveness' or looseness to proceedings, and there's a similar impulse here. What's wrong with placing a beat a fraction late? Real musicians do that all the time, so why can't machines?

Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Good drummers don't intentionally come in that far late though. And I don't see why you'd want to do that to a beat that's otherwise incredibly stiff and rigid next to the rest of the song, unless you were trying to be intentionally jarring.

Anyway, I've made my point, I'll shut up now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

I like that kind of stuff on st vincent records -- and agree w/sentiment above that they "keep it interesting" (maybe as much for her as us). Love the "I, I, I" part too. The only thing that really *bothers* me about the record is the unfortunate sequencing of Cheerleader to Surgeon, with the latter beginning in the same key and the same *note* as the "I, I, I" from the former. pet peeve, I guess

But it's encouraging that she makes music which might otherwise be a really easy fit for a hell of a lot of people...but retains little idiosyncratic bits that keep it from becoming that. If i said such things, I'd say "you go girl!" but thank goodness I don't.

Dominique, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

she did go to berklee

buzza, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally feeling the unquantized beats and blending of live/cut-up/programmed drums, of course. i think i have to get this record.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's so frustrating because it's a great voice and a collection of good-to-great songs with a load of irritating production quirks getting in the the way

There's no shortage of consensual classics that initially elicited this sort of response. I don't know just how I feel about Surgeon yet, bits are perilously close to sucumbing to the Bjork disease of mannerism and meandering melody banishing pop hooks. But the production quirks are just another decades indie music zeitgeist.

der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

LOL start to her interview at The AV Club: http://www.avclub.com/articles/st-vincent,61763/

The A.V. Club: Sorry, I dialed in a little early, so I eavesdropped on the tail-end of your last interview. Sounded like that got a little awkward.

Annie Clark: Oh, well, the “gender question.” Yeah. The funny thing for me about it is, it’s always such a non-question. The question is—well, there is no question. The statement is, “You’re a woman.”

AVC: So other than being a woman, how are you?

Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Thursday, 15 September 2011 13:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

A lot of her stuff, from the first album and second, at least - I haven't heard the new one yet - reminds of so much of late '70s/early '80s Bowie, where the studio is used to give the music this processed, almost robotic feel, especially the drums, which can sound rigid and mechanical until there's a really nutty fill or some other organic intrusion St. Vincent seems to tread that same illusory antiseptic line, sort of accenting the humanness, for lack of a better term, in the midst of all the precision and hyper-arrangement.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sorry for the grammar. I did that on purpose so that you know this post was written by a human.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've given this a quick listen, and so far I say Classic!!

No one I know of sounds anything like Annie Clark. She finds this line between harmony and discord - pretty melodies that threaten to tumble into chaos. Hair-raising pop songs dented and bruised by potholes and sheer cliff drops. But Annie always sounds so defiant, brittlely so, like someone who's had enough of tumbling and is going to stand up on her own two feet no matter what.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Thursday, 15 September 2011 23:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

As for the snare on Strange Mercy, I hear it, and yeah it's deliberate - but it wouldn't be as interesting a track without it. I love it. Her habit of making you anticipate what will happen next, and then doing something different to what you expect (like that ever-so-slightly late snare). You're forced to play this kind of mental three-legged-race with her. And yeah, if you let it jar you, it will. Not everyone likes or wants to feel "challenged" (for want of a better word) by music. I find Fiery Furnaces incredibly frustrating to listen to most of the time as well. But somehow St. Vincent's approach sounds thought-through, pre-mediated, reasoned - her fractured, imperfect internal logic displaying the fragility and determination in her songs. FF often sound like they're just writing tracks bar-by-bar, throwing in random key and tempo changes just for the sake of it. Chances are, on relistening to these tracks in a couple of months' time these'll sound quite natural and not at all jarring.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2011 00:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cruel is my favourite so far - like a Gilbert and Sullivan production covered by Electrelane in Blondie pastiche mode.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2011 00:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

The way she sings 'cruel' but it sounds like 'cry' - don't know I that's intentional. In my mind I always think of the cover of Actor and that photo kind of sums up her music perfectly - pretty in an uncanny valley way; she has the look of someone recovering from a domestic argument or some similar hyper-emotional experience.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2011 00:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Im not hearing the 'guitar virtuosity'. She's not doing anything a million metalhead teenagers couldn't do. Not that guitar virtuosity is everything, but they keep hyping her 'shredding'. I mean, she's a good songwriter and everything, that should be enough.

John Lennon, Friday, 16 September 2011 03:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

A teenage metalhead could probably technically play the parts, but I doubt he'd come up with them, unless they were big fans of Robert Fripp and the Zvex Fuzz Factory. She's not really about super fast shredding, although I'm sure she's capable of that. She's a really inventive player, and she can certainly kill it live.

Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Friday, 16 September 2011 08:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Listened again on the way into work this morning. It didn't quite have the same effect on me as last night, but then that might all be a question of context - some things just sound better at night on your home system than on headphones on a busy train. I don't think it's quite beating out Actor yet, but certain moments are splendid and as a whole I've no complaints.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2011 10:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

LIVIN IN FEAR IN THE YEAR OF THE TIGER

markers, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Are people still digging this? It kind of faded quickly for me, although I think "Cruel" is one of the best songs this year.

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm feeling this as a slowly-unfurling grower, much like Actor, which I enjoyed more and more as I got to know it.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm still playing this a lot, a strong contender for album of the year even though a lot of times I skip the first track.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

NPR is streaming her DC show tonight: http://www.npr.org/2011/10/28/141801564/live-tuesday-st-vincent-in-concert?ps=mh_frhdl1

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 21:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cru-u-uelllll....

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 11 November 2011 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

She's very striking in person. Amazingly vivid eyes. And she can fucking play. Best live guitar player I've seen in ages, if not ever.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

does it come through on the records in places i'm missing? i like her albums a lot, but i'm not hearing the amazing guitar solo parts i expect, given what i hear about her virtuosity.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the live show I saw a few weeks back was pretty amazing, precisely because of the guitar playing. I think on record it's all smoothed out a bit.

ryan, Saturday, 12 November 2011 02:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

definitely. love her live but i can mostly take or leave the records.

Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 12 November 2011 10:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ OTM

owenf, Saturday, 12 November 2011 10:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost Sometimes it's hard to hear her guitar playing on the record because, like Fripp or Belew or whomever, it doesn't always sound like a guitar. But live you get to see what she's up to.

I've had a lot of trouble with this record, even as a fan, because "Cruel" is such a good song but it comes so early in a relatively difficult album. I always turn it off (or tune it out) after "Cruel," even though I know it's good.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Funny thing No.1:

My six year old son asked me this morning whether Strange Mercy was Kate Bush's new album.

Funny thing No.2:

Before she came on stage the other night they were playing Here Comes the Warm Jets and as Baby's on Fire came on it suddenly dawned on me how alike to Fripp Annie Clarke's guitar playing is.

yugi ex, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was that before or after my post four inches above here? ;)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

They played Baby's On Fire after house lights came up on Friday! Her choice? She is very Fripp.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

New vid casts her as a Ron Mueck sculpture:

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

everything she does sounds like prince to me

iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Her videos are really good at complementing her songs. I think part of the reason I liked Cruel so much was cos of the video.

Laughing Gravy (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i've only listened to this new album a few times, but it's clicking a lot more now than it has in the past. i'm hearing tori amos* + fripp.

(*tori amos if her choirgirl hotel era was more interesting and varied and better-produced than it actually was.)

high on fiber (get bent), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 03:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

challlllllllops

mac and me (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Incredible, intense London show last night. Thrilling cover of She Is Beyond Good and Evil.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

(*tori amos if her choirgirl hotel era was more interesting and varied and better-produced than it actually was.)

nooooooooooooooooooooooo way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

like none at all at all. i only listened to the st vincent album a couple of times but certainly in terms of range it's got nothing on choirgirl - even in terms of arrangements tori's a million times more varied, and that's before you get into the amount of genres FTCH covers.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

The 90s Tori stan awakes.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lex, have you heard the Actor album from 2009? I'd suggest checking it out before you dismiss St Vincent outright. Personally found that album a lot more enjoyable than this recent one.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

'tori + fripp' kind of works

lexxx i don't know if i have any interest particularly in trying to talk you into liking st. vincent but i don't think breadth of sound and genre is what her last two records are going for at all?

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

neither did i - i've tried st vincent and it wasn't for me, i was just taking issue with the tori comparison

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't really hear any tori in st vincent tbh

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

a particular way of deploying their high registers strategically? i think there's a resemblance more on the line of one or two common tricks rather than a similarity in the grand shape of their projects. (which is true of the comparison to robert fripp as well obv)

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

although i would probably rather hear annie clark cover 'in the court of the crimson king' than i would 'cornflake girl#

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't really hear any toriesque bloodnguts viscera in annie clark. or any of the wails in the higher register. idk that st vincent album was so low-key charisma-wise, i didn't like her arrangements or production at all but her personality didn't exactly bust through them like tori's would.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, bloodnguts viscera is exactly the impression I got from her show last night. I hate the "you have to see x live" argument — obviously you won't want to bother if you're not a fan — but the way she swings between vulnerability and violence is gripping. Not that I'd compare her to Tori myself, but I think she has charisma in spades.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm surprised at what Lex is saying really, and agree with thomp and DL - this is has a lot of character to it - something very frail yet hugely defiant about her sound and lyrics. That video for Cheerleader, where she's gigantic and tied up as a museum exhibit, tries to break the shackles but crumbles to dust, is a perfect representation of her sound. It's like that moment just before you feel as though you're about to have an emotional breakdown and you're trying to keep it together. "You show up with a black eye/Looking to finish the fight/Paint the black hole blacker" is about as much blood'n'guts viscera as it gets really...

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeh she don't sing it like she means it tho. it's like an exercise in songwriting and by the same token it's not dead-eyed stina style deadpan either.
was so pleased my "strange mercy" was faulty. i couldn't conscionably have it knocking about the house.
she writes a corkin' good refrain but can't link them up or develop them adequately to write a good (let alone great) song which is an awful, crying shame. given "marrow" was pretty much flawless, but she needs a producer who will tell her "no, go back and write it again", rather than fleshing out half-arsed sequenced up demos in a cluttery mush of production. eg "Cruel", "swoon"-part, "riff"-part, connected by "drivel"-part (even the riff needs to go up 3 semitones on the last stroke - it disappoints me that my memory of the song is better than the actual song). "chloe in the afternoon" STORMs in, in a prince style, and to my mind doesn't fall apart through design but through not taking the optimum compositional decisions. and so on, and so on. undeserving of the foisted elevation she receives for lack of anything better being offered. the attempted lionization is wish fulfilment

iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is all down to a matter of taste, but I think the whole "structures falling apart" is what makes her sound unique. I do much prefer Actor to Strange Mercy, but it's the ever-so-slightly skewed quality, the uneasiness of her sound that makes it what it is.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought immediately of St. Vincent vs. Tori b/c they both have the song "Cruel", with a similar sentiment.
Disgree on the Fripp comparison // splitting hairs // Annie is Adrian Belew, in tone, in performance, even in lyrical bent.
There is a selfish part of me that only wants to hear Annie making music in the vein of her Rapeman/Pop Group covers

mac and me (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

problem is it's crap-structures-falling-apart.
the refrains are GRAND, but she doesn't know what to do with them. these songs could be so much better and that is what i find so enormously frustrating.

iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

gawd, tori's "cruel" is so much better it's ridiculous, the production and rhythm are so insane on it

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

like, MARIMBAS

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

get back to me when annie clark starts using marimbas and whistles in her songs

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

correction there - i think it's adequate but oft unrelated structures falling apart craply and not in aid of the music, but for lack of an idea what to do with them otherwise. yegads, anyone would think she is ruins / misha mengelberg / the dead c the way people are vaunting this as some kinda revelation. just so peculiar that someone so obviously a very talented musician should have so many absolutely and completely dud chord progressions & unmemorable bridging parts.

iglu ferrignu, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

get back to me when annie clark starts using marimbas and whistles in her songs

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:22 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's some pretty narrow criteria for good music TBF. I think the point with Annie Clarke is that she can make her guitar sound like marimbas and whistles.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

She's a phenom guitarist trapped in a art pop singer/songwriter that wants to soundtrack movies. The inevitable covers album will be a monster.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

saw her last night in oakland, wonderful, even with the bad mushy sound of the fox. major crowd surfing; i'm sure she only weight like 80 pounds but I still wouldn't have wanted to have gotten clocked in the head by her boots. her guitar playing actually reminds me more of adrian belew than fripp, and she has the stage presence of prince.

akm, Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

YES I've been saying Belew for years. Absolutely.

Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's funny because i just went back and read an interview with her (av club I think) and he asked her if she'd seen Home of the Brave (Laurie Anderson) and she said no but he drew the same comparison. Glad to know it wasn't my sometimes overly 80's KC-saturated brain making this up.

akm, Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

David Byrne & St. Vincent collaborate for new LP "Love This Giant" out September 10(UK)/11(US) ON 4AD/Todo Mundo

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 June 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

is this the only mention of it on ilx? hm.

thomp, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmm. Single did not wow me.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

she has the stage presence of prince

Wow, really? Never seen her live

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's lots of great st. vincent live online - pf linked this one some time back, it's awesome

saw her live once and was blown away, only thing might annoy you she's not that "true" to the songs' album sound but if you can get past that it's really something special. there's so much dynamics and she is wiiild :-)

niels, Friday, 31 August 2012 08:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, the times I've seen her she's generally been very formal, except for the guitar freakouts, which seemed kind of ironic counterpoints to her otherwise intentionally stylized/stiff/cold stage demeanor. I mean, it works, but I would not put her on my short list of dynamic, charismatic performers.

Love her covers, though, which is when I usually see her go nuts. Her Pop Group cover was incredible.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 August 2012 13:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wish I liked Strange Mercy more, i really do but I don't

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 31 August 2012 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, the times I've seen her she's generally been very formal, except for the guitar freakouts, which seemed kind of ironic counterpoints to her otherwise intentionally stylized/stiff/cold stage demeanor. I mean, it works, but I would not put her on my short list of dynamic, charismatic performers.

Love her covers, though, which is when I usually see her go nuts. Her Pop Group cover was incredible.

I'd echo this. Her songs live were very true to the album versions minus some extra-skronky guitar workouts. That being said---excellent live show. She also crowd-surfed during her Pop Group cover...I was impressed.

dronestreet, Friday, 31 August 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought she was amazing live. Also, and I hate to say it, much more strikingly beautiful than I'd imagined - her eyes were just luminescent and absorbing. And she rocked. Like Robert Fripp.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 August 2012 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha, I read your post as

I thought she was amazing live. Also, and I hate to say it, much more strikingly beautiful than I'd imagined - her eyes were just like Robert Fripp's.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 August 2012 16:07 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 31 August 2012 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

someone has never seen Prince

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 31 August 2012 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

still need to listen to this some more

curmudgeon, Friday, 7 September 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

a frigid creature this one is

marginal victory, Friday, 7 September 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm loving it.

Jazzbo, Sunday, 9 September 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

THere was a piece on them in the Guardian yesterday
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/sep/08/david-byrne-st-vincent?INTCMP=SRCH

Stevolende, Sunday, 9 September 2012 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

"I saw this diminutive minx open for John Vanderslice this past Saturday night"

thomp, Sunday, 9 September 2012 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I definitely wake up when she's singing lead, or better yet, solo. If Byrne's writing or co-writing those songs, good for him, but so far I'm wishing he'd stayed more in the background. "I Used To Watch TV" has some of the old T.Heads engagement, though, and I'll listen some more. Good horns, wish she was playing more audible guitar.

dow, Sunday, 9 September 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

fun detail from the guardian thing is that the prosthetics for the cover are by the guy who did matthew barney's

thomp, Sunday, 9 September 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh-- my reaction so far to the new album

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 September 2012 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sonically, texturally, in terms of energy, ideas, this is great on first exposure. Dunno how the songs will hold up in time but they don't quite seem like the primary focus yet.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 09:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

What other records use brass in ways comparable to this? There must be some but I can't think of anything off he top of my head.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 12:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is the first thing byrne has done in years that I've liked. probably the first album since his s/t one.

akm, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was expecting it to be not so great, as 1) Melissa said she didn't like it and 2) BRASS. I am semi-allergic to brass but wow, this album was actually all kinds of awesome, I liked it from the first hearing, and it got even better the more I listened to it. The brass arrangements are really quite unusual, not what I was expecting at all, and really quite moreish.

Atomow dhe Kres? MY A VYNN, mar pleg! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 09:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

(But mostly it made me dig out a bunch of old Talking Heads records I haven't listened to since I was in high school.)

Atomow dhe Kres? MY A VYNN, mar pleg! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you like St Vincent's other stuff WCC?

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes.

Atomow dhe Kres? MY A VYNN, mar pleg! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Personally I loved Actor so much but Strange Mercy kind of grated on me. I'm looking forward to hearing this record though.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 10:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

st. vincent is a bit lame

conrad, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 12:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're a bit lame.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was lukewarm on the album after a couple spins (except for the horn arrangements, it wasn't really grabbing me...though I was working while listening).

However, seeing these Jimmy Fallon live performances really brought things together. Think I might end up digging this as much as the last St. Vincent record (a pop gem), though in a more brainy, less brawny manner. Bummed that the closest this tour is coming to me is Chicago in the middle of the week. Times like this...hate the Midwest.

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/david-byrne-and-st-vincent-the-forest-awakes-91012/1416222/

dronestreet, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Byrne's vocal melodies have not won me over yet, but maybe if I give it a few more listens.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

She seems better live, judging by a number of fairly recent YouTubes. Drop-dead cool gradually becomes poignant (emerging/undertow desperation of the "Joan Didionesque" persona she's cited), plus hairline fractures in keyboard bridges x guitar skronk. Byrne x horns-wise, so far I prefer Music From The Knee Plays.

dow, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

What other records use brass in ways comparable to this? There must be some but I can't think of anything off he top of my head.

Moloko/Roísín Murphy was my reaction when I first heard this album this morning. Quite like it! Love it when Byrne uses his more humble/insecure voice in e.g. "Dinner For Two" instead of his usual, more forceful delivery.

willem, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seeing the show tonight, but underwhelmed by the album.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 13:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw the show last night and liked the songs from the album better live. Live they are also doing lots of choreography for each number plus using lights and shadows to keep your interest. Alas, Byrne's stiff movements don't seem that endearing to me, and Annie's wiggling also gets a bit predictable. Her voice sounds great I just wish she would write some (conventional) choruses and hooks. The crowd was mainly there for David Byrne I sensed. It was a really expensive show-- $75 to $125 list for tickets.

Haven't looked for the Strathmore (MD/DC ) setlist online. It will be a slight bit different than this one from NY that I saw but its not that different:

Who
Weekend in the Dust
Strange Overtones
(David Byrne cover)
Lazy
(David Byrne cover)
This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)
(Talking Heads cover)
I am an Ape
Marrow
(St. Vincent cover)
I Should Watch TV
Ice Age
Like Humans Do
(David Byrne cover)
The One Who Broke Your Heart
Lazarus
Cheerleader
(St. Vincent cover)
Outside of Space and Time
Encore:
Cruel
(St. Vincent cover)
Burning Down The House
(Talking Heads cover)
Encore 2:
The Party
(St. Vincent cover)
Road To Nowhere
(Talking Heads cover)

curmudgeon, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

that looks like an awesome setlist

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aye, I bet that was wicked. Prefer her songs / vocals to his on the record.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

imo this is quite lovely and the out of focus cameraphone footage rather accentuates it

set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Still getting my head round this. Hate to say it, but Byrne's hokier moments (singing about TV and procreation etc) kind of spoil it a little bit. It's a great pairing though - Annie's moments really do remind me of prime TH-songwriting style. It's roughly 70/30 good/bad though.

where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 13:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

if they tour the uk, I'll def be there.

where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 13:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

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