Skronky guitar nerds taking sides: Marc Ribot or Nels Cline

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It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

mark ribot's playing on tom waits' "rain dogs" and "real gone" pretty much says it all for me. though admittedly, i'm far more familiar with him than nels cline.

Emily B (Emily B), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

marc ribot is tastier

chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

Nels pulled off the scary/brilliant D. Boon tribute/impersonation solo on Mike Watt's "The Boilerman", so he wins.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 06:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

While it's hard to top Ribot's licks on "Rain Dogs", the skronk metal of Cline's "Lowered Boom" comes close.

bendy (bendy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thread needs more Arto.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

For albums as leader, I've only heard "Interstellar Space" and "Rootless Cosmopolitans" which gives Nels the edge.

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love Ribot's Cuban band and I also like Nels Cline when he does the abstract noize thing. Tough to compare those two.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'd have to go with Nels Cline. In fact, I'd always kind of hoped that someday Nels would fill the Ribot role in one of Tom Waits's newer albums, instead of what's-his-name from Beck's band. When I was writing a review of Nels's new CD (an album of Andrew Hill covers), I was tempted to compare it to Los Cubanos Postizos.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love Ribot's Cuban band and I also like Nels Cline when he does the abstract noize thing. Tough to compare those two.

what you said

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Nels due to seeing him live quite a bit, usually with other people. His solo on "Liberty Calls" w/Watt at a Costa Mesa show was indescribable.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

I like some of Cline's stuff (the new Hill disc is decent), but I'm gonna go with Ribot. That Spiritual Unity album of Ayler tunes was a killer - plus, his guitar work on Rain Dogs, as mentioned above.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey Phil, while you're here, did you get my last mail? (I can't remember if I sent it out, actually!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

nels to the muthafuckin' cline

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

Ned -

Yeah, I did. Sorry, been way too busy to reply.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

No worries, thanks!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wanted to like it but I thought the Nels Cline Andrew Hill thing was a nice effort, there's obviously a lot of respect for Hill's compositions coming from Nels, but the whole thing sounded overly slick and stiff to me. I'm a big Andrew Hill fan though and you can't do too badly w/ his tunes.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Spiritual Unity vs. Interstellar Space I think I have to go with Spiritual Unity for overall execution of the concept. But I find these two so f'ing amazing that I can't ts.

Cline is outstanding on the new Scott Amendola, too, which, as long as we're talking skronky guitar nerds, includes Jeff Parker, too.

J Arthur Rank (Quin Tillian), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

One of my fave songs: clever white youth. so marc wins by a mile (or kilometer)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Ribot -- those Cubanos records are *it*.

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

seriously, y los cubanos postizos owns pretty hard, like as hard as nels cline "cause for concern" on the instrumentals album, but harder

del griffith, Sunday, 5 September 2010 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm kind of a contemporary jazz guitar expert too, not to brag or anything, so my opinion really ought to be held in fairly high esteem, just sayin

del griffith, Sunday, 5 September 2010 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tell me more about Nels Cline. Assume I know nothing, but that I am quite familiar with Marc Ribot

Hymie in Galveston (admrl), Sunday, 19 September 2010 00:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Damn- this is a tough one. Both have their moments. I am a devotee of Nels Cline circa Chest -though I rarely play the album.

o. nate, Sunday, 19 September 2010 03:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

mike watt's contemplating the engine room is excellent, partly because of nels cline.

Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 19 September 2010 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.songsillinois.net/2010/09/marc-ribot-silent-movies/

marc ribot's new soundtrack & score compilation silent movies is very nice, you should listen to "the kid" from it ^

del griffith, Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I've still never heard that Mike Watt record!

lol goat on table (admrl), Monday, 26 September 2011 06:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've always been more impressed by Cline but I haven't heard much of Ribot's Cuban material, which seems to be highly rated here. I've seen both live, actually. (Definitely preferred Cline in that context.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

If I'm currently obsessing over Ribot's work with Waits, what's the best entry point into his large discography as a solo (or top-billed collaborative) artist? Intrigued by Ceramic Dogs (lover the personnel but put off by descriptions of it as a 'power trio'). Help?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Search: about a million John Zorn records

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmmm, see I hate Zorn (Arto too). Can't hang with downtown wank.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

::shrug:: Have fun with your research.

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink


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