― jergins (jergins), Sunday, 23 July 2006 07:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― It's Rodney, currently unemployed! (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Makkada B. (Makkada B.), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link
"With You" is my jam.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
"kiss kiss" is gr8
― deej, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
"Forever" = full on pop house. And I approve. The video seems appropriate too:
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/qnrFvhXwvqKGf7jC
― matt2, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I really like "Forever" a lot.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
coming here to rep for forever so glad theres gonna be another summer of wistful fake timbaland house joints
― and what, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I like this kid a lot when he does upbeat pop; his ballads tend to be kind of unlistenable.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
was just listening to "with you" and admiring his restraint as a singer. he's totally confident with his voice, and really knows how to lay back. ("with you" pretty much rips off its acoustic-guitar groove from "irreplaceable," but i don't mind.)
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 16 May 2008 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link
his voice is the shit
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 May 2008 06:44 (fifteen years ago) link
imo i think he's an awful technical singer but i love the way his voice warbles and how reedy it is
-- and what, Monday, May 5, 2008 1:20 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
RIP
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 May 2008 06:45 (fifteen years ago) link
well his restraint might be a factor of lack of technique, i don't know. but i prefer undersinging to oversinging.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 16 May 2008 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link
(there are parts of that song where he loses the melody, but i'm not sure if that's his fault or the song's.)
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 16 May 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link
what i mean is, if you listen to a song like "no air", he's completely blown out of the water by jordin sparks in terms of straight singing, but i think brown makes the song. he knows how to fuck around with his voice (like a natural over-autotune or something) and he really knows his place in terms of restraint (which you brought up, otm to you). way more skilled than a lot of ppl give him credit for i think
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 May 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link
your original post really otm tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLaFJASD5lc
chris brown & lupe fiasco freestyle on jaylib - the red
― and what, Monday, 21 July 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Dude seems physically incapable of not mugging directly into the camera at all times. It's endearingly goofy.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 21 July 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
this kid really brings out my inner Alex in NYC
― some dude, Monday, 21 July 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
"With You" has been on repeat for over an hour, I see no reason to change the situation.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 25 September 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
"Kiss Kiss" is worthy of the Human League circa Travelogue.
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 25 September 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link
"Throwed" needs more love (it ain't a single but it could be)
― Life Begins at Death (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Saturday, 18 October 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Where is his cover of "Hungry Eyes" by Eric Carmen? Someone should get on that.
― tea cake, Monday, 24 November 2008 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link
!!!!!!!!!!
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 November 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
opinion provided by noted sane person marcello carlin
― dat dude delmar (and what), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Chris Brown seems to me to be exactly what a Pop Star right now should be, and in that sense he's the most Warholian of Pop Stars since Britney.
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, he is HOT
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
ehhhh i like his music tons and all but he doesn't have bsb or britney or 50 pull or anything
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Warholian? I mean I guess there's something 'pop art' about the way he does all these award show performances where impersonates Michael Jackson, then impersonates Timberlake impersonating MJ, and then goes back to straight MJ, but just...no. No.
xpost
― nutz in a good way, aka bustin (some dude), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Come ON, the bit where he walks into the crowd.
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay so maybe I was freaking out a little last night because I wanted tickets to see him in Dublin so badly, but I got them so...!!!!
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link
^^i'll cosign this (but not the warhol stuffz)
still jam 'with you' and 'kiss kiss'
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 09:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone seen him live? I've just bagged review tix for Jan 4 in Nottingham.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link
youtube clips are promising, I'm v. v. excited!
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
v. excited (chris brown gets a boner in Dublin)
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
wait, you need to click through to the High Quality version!
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
he'd best to invest in a good personal security detail...
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Word 77 already has a hit out.
― carne asada, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
So, is it true what I'm reading, did Rihanna beat up this poor guy's fists with her face?
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link
he better not end up in prisonaint gonna survive a single day in teh county after what he did to 5Head
― warmsherry, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Yo (Excuse My Fists)
― My name is Kenny, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Babe pretty thick wit the kick that's sick that need to be hit
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
aint gonna survive a single day in teh county after what he did to 5Head
51 Sent
― The FMLing Groovies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know, do you really want to contemplate what ILX would be like without noted poster 'warmsherry'?
― tuomas bangs out to hardcore rap ish (some dude), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Jay-Z Vowes Revenge "Hes A Walking Dead Man"
Jay-Z "hit the roof" when he heard about the alleged assault on Rihanna, according to an insider. A source close to Jigga says that Jay-Z has vowed to get revenge on Chris Brown if the story ends up being true. “He hit the roof. Chris is a walking dead man. He messed with the wrong crew,” the source told US Weekly.
http://www.rapbasement.com/jay-z/0211090-a-source-tells-us-weekly-that-jay-z-vowed-revenge-on-chris-brown-over-rihanna-assault.html
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
he's got chris martin on his ass already
― and what, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Beef IV.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
so isnt there a rumour jay z gave chris brown via rhi-rhi herpes?
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Besides thinking Rihanna is “is so important to our culture" and that she is “the most important artist in music and has the most potential" Kanye says “I feel like, just as a person I don’t care how famous she is or even if she just worked at McDonald’s that should never happen, it should never come to that, to that place,” he said.
Obviously it's not funny to hit a woman in any case, but i would prefer to find out what the actual story is before passing judgement.
― This is a serious inquiry and there may be reprecussions (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Swifty420ABM posted on 02.12.09 at 06:22amchris brown had bumps on his lip from like 2 years aggo LOLxp
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:12 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think T.I. giving her the herp is a more prevalent rumor
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
"Obviously it's not funny to hit a woman in any case, but i would prefer to find out what the actual story is before passing judgement."
Yeah she could have faked the whole thing. Or hammer her face into Chris Brown's fist, not vice versa.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4233/33f431jjpgau6.gif
― yungblut, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:21 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yall cant repeat this but i know a girl who work's at t.i.'s walgreens and said in addition to being on like 4 anti-depressants he also gets valtrex
― and what, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
all celebrity herpes can be traced to derek jeter - true fact
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
should we have a secret 77 t.i. walgreens receipt thread
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost - and carlos d
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah she could have faked the whole thing. Or hammer her face into Chris Brown's fist, not vice versa.― Alex in SF, Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:30 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://memetrics.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ashley-todd-b-scratched-into-face-by-attacker.jpg
the 'b' stands for 'brown'
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
bruise under her left eye is a 'c'
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
because she was beaten by chris brown
― and what, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:07 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
i am down for this
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder what type of microwave popcorn TI uses?
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
frankly I'd like to think Orville or Newman's own, but I could honestly see him being an ACT II kinda guy
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
god i hope that dude don't fuck w/kettle corn
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
no doubt that's like the microwave popcorn equivalent of rick ross's CO picture
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm sayin!
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i dunno, if she gave him herpes she deserved to be punched in the face imo
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
suggest ban
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
if some bitch gave you herpes you wouldn't be tempted to deck her?
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I find that really hard to believe.
hmmm...definitely food for thougzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Still suggest ban, I'm afraid.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
You are a moron.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
so many ppl in the world have an std - we can't all be decking each other over it
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah of course, just accept the herpes and move on.
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
bw just deck a bitch who you think might have something before you get on her, just to be safe
― goole, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
brainwasher may each punch to a bitch's face be a salve to your sore laden weenie
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
for the record, if you're not actually advocating hitting women, then A+ trolling, would be trolled again. but, if you are - why stop at punching? why not stab rihanna in the gut? why not sever her leg? you took my dick, i'm taking your leg!! etc.
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Right, that's even worse than suggest ban. Permalink!
― StanM, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
well I was kind of half-trolling like I always do
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.beijingolympicsfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ban-olympics-blogging.jpg
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
but this whole "never hit a woman" thing is really sexist
so crabs-level trolling, not like herp-level or anything
xp ...
― goole, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm sure you'll shatter the glass ceiling jaw someday :)
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
better revenge is to deliberately cross-infect with some other STD though surely.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah Chris Brown should have bought a q-tip smeared with gonnorhea and wiped Rihanna's eye with it.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Uh I know you're being sarcastic but that is just disturbing and gross.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm just o_O at the idea of buying a q-tip smeared with gonnorhea especially because now that you've suggested it the existence of such a thing for purchase seems eminently plausible
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
The best revenge.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link
the gonno-rhi-rhi
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah Chris Brown should have bought a q-tip smeared with gonnorhea and wiped Rihanna's eye with it.― Alex in SF, Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:26 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
qTip has gonorrhea? great rumors on this thread
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Friday, February 13, 2009 12:20 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
post of missing dom passantino
― special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't think dom hits women, he just gives them poor self-esteem
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
we really need to get surmounter and brainwasher in the same room one of these days
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
"qTip has gonorrhea? great rumors on this thread"
Shhh don't tell his girlfriend!
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's how it went down, according to the police report. After Chris received a text message from a woman who wrote about getting together, an argument erupted. By the way, initially, Rihanna would not tell cops what started the argument.
She did, however, tell them that during the argument, he started hitting her. According to the police report, she ordered him to drive her home and "faked a call" to someone, saying things like, "He's dropping me off. Make sure the cops are there."
Rihanna told cops the fake call enraged Brown. He said something to the effect of "You are really fu**ed up now. I'm going to kill you." This statement is the basis of the criminal threats charge.
At that point, according to the report, Brown allegedly began a violent attack with his fists. At some point, Rihanna took the keys out of the ignition and threw them outside.
And there's this. According to the police report, she told cops this was not the first time Brown hit her. She referred to it as an ongoing and escalating abusive relationship.
We're told the criminal threats charge is based on that one statement Brown allegedly made. As one law enforcement source told us, "It's kinda weak, and the D.A. is not going to prosecute a high profile case like this unless it's solid." That's why it was kicked back for further investigation.
Given the brutal nature of the attack, which the photos clearly show -- contusions on the face, swollen eyes, cut lip, bloody nose, bite marks on fingers and arm -- a felony domestic battery charge is virtually a done deal. That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats.
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
hey I'm not advocating domestic violence - hitting anyone is wrong - but "never hit a woman" is really sexist. I mean, the implication is that women are incapable of defending themselves/meek/inferior... and what if some really buff and/or crazy chick attacks you? Should you not defend yourself because she's a woman and you "never hit women"?
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link
"That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats."
Fucked up.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
You shouldn't hit anyone because they "gave" you herpes.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
xxpost - I don't think anyone is pushing that angle though.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
that's weird that "beating the shit out of a woman" is less serious as a charge than "making a threat"
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
If you are being attacked by a crazy buff chick you have my permission to beat the shit out of her, Brainwasher.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean that's assuming you can. Me I'd just run.
right xp "i was going to threaten to kill you, but instead i'm just going to punch you into the hospital"
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
where did you get that from? there are so many different "official" stories that I'm not necessarily inclined to believe this one...
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I kind of get the logic behind making threats to kill someone a very serious offense that carries more of a penalty than battery that doesn't cause serious or lasting injury.
I don't know US laws though - my first question would be whether a non-domestic battery of this nature would attract a greater penalty than a domestic battery.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
tmz xp
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
domestic battery carries a harsher penalty afaik
good.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah non-domestic battery isn't even a felony
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i think criminal threats applies where it's reasonable to suppose that the attacker was actually going to carry out the threat (to kill, etc), but was prevented from doing so
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
sez mto: since they're not married, divorced, cohabiting, ex-cohabiting, or parents together, they can't hit him with spousal abuse/domestic battery
― yungblut, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link
...the benefits of maintaining your own appartment
― yungblut, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link
is it right to insult your housemate with this - you sir, are chris browns confession
― fucks capacitor (a-bomb), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
http://photos-d.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v188/151/103/1124461452/n1124461452_30580763_4605.jpg
― Jena (who is actually a man) (Jena), Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link
holy shit:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0219_rihanna_photo_beating.jpg
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link
oh man...
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
speechless
I was trying not to jump on dude without knowing the whole story but this is indefensible... oh man...
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
dude..
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
oh shit
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
goddamn
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link
awful stuff
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
dudes career is over
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link
over
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link
man this shit is sad as hell
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link
as the cliche goes, america loves to forgive. i could see dude coming back okay after a serious apology, a tv interview and a year or so off
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I still kind of feel bad for dude, I don't think this should end his career even if I'm not his biggest fan... but yeah this is just sad.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
no, I don't see him being forgiven for this. Not by white people at least (no offense).
woah
― on some charter shit no doubt (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
at the very least, dude is/was one of the last truly bankable stars left in pop, so yall are crazy if you think the label is gonna give up on him. he'd have to be the 20th 9/11 hijacker or something to be done forever
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link
dude, he is totally expendable. they'll just get another r&b dude who's cute and put the chris brown money behind him.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont think this is the kind of shit he can come back from. im not sure it should be either.
i mean not to compare abuse to using a prostitute, but its like the same kind of hypocrisy between his image & reality that happened w/ spitzer ... u cant be a golden boy pin-up good guy R&B artist who just happens to beat the shit out of chicks on the side -- folks forgive a lot of stuff but im pretty sure his career is effectively done. i just cant see it.
i mean kells kept going but ... i dunno. this feels different. & evident, and obvious.
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
lolby o'donis xp
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is silly man. some dude on soulstrut tried to argue some similar shit. im from an irish catholic family, not being cool w/ domestic battery is not a 'white people thing'
I don't think his career is entirely done, I just think his career as a big pop crossover star is done.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link
(fwiw if anyones confused there was not abuse in my family but i knew plenty of ppl who had stories abou that shit going on ... its a 'cultural thing' only in the broadest sense & exists across all demographics)
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Kells didn't pee on one of the biggest music stars in the world. People find it easier to forgive a transgression against someone they don't know than against someone they do.
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
it sucks to say, but i think this is way worse for him because it's rihanna. if he beat the shit out of some no-name girl this would blow over way quickly, but this is gonna be a thing for the first 100 times that rihanna appears in public. and if she has any permanent scars or w/e he's 100x more fucked
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
xp xactly
tru, plus im sure some folks are more forgiving about 'consensual' post-pubescent teenagers (unacceptably imo but it is what it is) than just straight up unconsensual abuse
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean like always i want to withhold judgment till we know the whole story but if he did that to rihanna he should do some fucking time
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont mean to imply only rihanna--if he did that to anyone, he should do time
for really tho
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i do think yall are underestimating america's propensity for forgiveness -- i mean dude is gonna have an apologetic press conference where he cries, he's gonna do a huge interview on abc or something, he's gonna go on a tour speaking to kids speaking out against violence, he's gonna apologize some more, he's gonna go away for a year or so and then he's gonna come back with a "fun" single like "kiss kiss" and life is gonna go on
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link
or he ends up getting on drugs & slowly killing himself & ending up on some where are they now? bullshit like bobby brown
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link
we need to stop saying "dude"
also i don't see how you could feel bad for him right now.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link
is someone feeling bad for him?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link
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― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think this depends a lot on whether or not it goes to trial, how long the trial lasts, what rihanna says abt their relationship (isolated incident vs. pattern of abuse for example), past girls coming forward to testify, etc.
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know about whether or not i feel his career should be over, but uh, i just can't feel bad for him right now
my bad i missed that, yeah surmounter otm
imo this is a really sad situation -- i only feel bad in the sense that im sure this is part of the cycle of abuse & at some point he was knocked around or brought up to believe that was an appropriate way to deal with his problems. Which is really fuckin sad, but now id definitely say im not feeling much sympathy for him beyond that -- at a certain pt folks need to take responsibility & figure out whats right & whats not. his career is over ... and it probably should be
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:34 (fifteen years ago) link
well sorry for having a more nuanced view of this than "omg he's evil he should rot in jail". I mean obviously what he did is terrible and indefensible but it's sad that this is his undoing considering how talented he is and how promising his career was. that's all I'm saying.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link
look man i still listen to miles davis and ike turner & we all know the stories behind them ... but honestly how can you listen to a track like 'forever' & not have this taint the way you hear it?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i think anyone who does that to someone is kind of evil, and doesn't deserve much of a nuanced view :/
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
there are better places for this kind of discussion but deej is right--people arent born abusers--and its sad that this is case regardless of how talented & promising chris browns career is.
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i just wonder what goes through your mind when you're hitting someone like that.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:41 (fifteen years ago) link
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, February 20, 2009 3:36 AM (2 minutes ago)
Because I'm capable of divorcing the artist from the art? I mean, David Ruffin is one of my favorite vocalists.. he beat Tammi Terrell to her death practically... obviously no one can defend that, but I don't stop listening to his music because of it. His personal life doesn't detract from his talent. But anyway this is a different argument, maybe you can start a thread about it.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, i can understand that divorce. i mean, i think music is meant to be divorced from a lot of things in life.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,495744,00.html
― ----> (libcrypt), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
im not gonna get into this rite now so this is my last word on it for the moment, but most fans are invested in cb's persona as a 'real' thing & this is kind of a wizard-behind-the-curtain moment. i think u are definitely the exception to the rule if you can have that kind of cognitive dissonance
ok im done
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
interesting.
"bite marks"
he bit her?
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link
ugh @ that facebook douchebag
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link
well also cb's persona is being a smoove and romantic guy so violently assaulting a pretty girl is basically anathema
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:28 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i was thinking about bobby b too. ffs i hope rhi doesnt do some crazy whitney shit
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 03:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=47101
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link
yea who even knows
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link
they seem to be talking about a diff photo xp
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:39 (fifteen years ago) link
they sure do. prolly a couple of fakes.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, this really upsets me...
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 20 February 2009 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Somewhere in prison, thugs are salivating at the thought of widening Brown's asshole....
― Eater of Mexicans (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, he's a big asshole already
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Interesting point, Bo Jackson o_Overdrive.
― some dude, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
somewhere on ilx...
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
You know how there are things you say to your friends which, due to verbal and physical context, come across in a completely different manner than when you say them on a message board? Welcome to there, BJO.
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
lol o_0verdrive
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, my college roommate used to go through the "thugs are salivating" routine during the evening news all the time, we always had a laugh.
― some dude, Friday, 20 February 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Chris Brown, from o to 0
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Friday, 20 February 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Women and Girls Collective Action Network made a good point:
We hear so much of what will happen to Chris Brown’s reputation and career if these allegations are proven to be true. We hear how all Chris Brown’s sponsors and endorsements will back down, and how his entire career may go down the drain. Now we ask, what is going to happen to Rihanna? We never hear, on a well publicized scale, how this is going to affect her career. We do not even hear how she may be damaged mentally, physically, or emotionally after this incident of abuse. You would think that because she is a survivor of abuse, people would be concerned with her well-being.
As far as Rihanna goes, this is what we do know. Last summer, Rihanna had released a statement saying how she starting building her career from endorsements before she even released her hits. The LA Times recently reported that Rihanna had the reputation of representing “something very positive and in particular a strong female role model, and when she is associated with a situation like this it can have an impact.” They quoted a marketing executive as predicting that companies are likely to shun her in the future.
http://womenandgirlscan.org/2009/02/19/beyond-chris-rihanna/
― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
im pretty sure when rihanna's new album drops and she has two number one singles she won't be hurting on endorsements
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
still, all the more reason for her to coop w/police.
what's really fucked up that i keep forgetting is that he's 19 and she's 20.
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont understand this paragraph
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I think all that really means is that Def Jam got her a couple modelling gigs before her first album dropped and those folks are willfully misinterpreting it to mean that she makes all her money off endorsements and not records/touring.
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
they also must have not ever heard of marketing before if they genuinely think that companies arent banging on her agents door right now... im sympathetic to the idea that the response has unfortunately been all about vengeance on cb instead of concern for rihannas welfare (which i think is true, and pretty fucked up, and perpetuates a whole cycle of cultural violence and is probably not entirely divorced from cultural concerns about angry black men, but whatever)--but come ON.
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah...the press is analyzing what this means for CB's career and not hers because obvious he stands to be negatively affected by it a lot more...she might be too, but not in nearly the same way.
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
see i took this,
something very positive and in particular a strong female role model
as being related to the gossip reporting about her being unsure as to whether she wants to cooperate/press charges since she still loves him or whatever, and how it would be perceived if she did not do those things. still a reach and a weird point to make, but yeah.
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
what's really fucked up that i keep forgetting is that he's 19 and she's 20
She's 21 ! Happy birthday, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna
― StanM, Friday, 20 February 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah...i mean honestly i feel like a lot of things are up in the air and very ambiguous right now...a little less so since that photo surfaced yesterday, but still a lot of unanswered questions and room for both parties to negotiate the road ahead either as well as possible given the situation, or in a way that just makes things worse.
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
she may lose some modeling gigs but she'll recoup that when she signs on as the spokesmodel for grandpa passantino's fruit-flavored girlfriend punch
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
dude it's kinda weird how in the last couple hours you've started a pretty contemplative ILE thread about modern humor while at the same timing coming out swinging on all these other threads with wack tired meta jokes
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm a complex guy
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
grandpa passantino is a decent screen name at least
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
and what contains contradictions, much like david banner
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
this wack tired meta joke brought to you circa 2004
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
how is a passantino domestic abuse zing even a "meta joke"
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
does he beat his girlfriends through the fourth wall?
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i think it's more about the wack tired part
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i was using the loosened modern ilx meaning of "meta" as in anything about someone else on the board
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
if its tired and wack to enjoy imagining dom as http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3884/punchy0nu.jpgthen im tired and wack
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i know i enjoy imagining dom as a high-ass moose on the reg
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
srsly i ain't never understood that dude's hat
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^i dont get this post which makes it funnier to me
xp ohhhhhh his hat
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe gr8080 can explain the hat to us
― Mr. Que, Friday, 20 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I have no idea what the fuck you Americans are talking about
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
RIP xp
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, February 20, 2009 4:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is some top shelf big hoos
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
word
― dom as a high-ass moose on the reg (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
ty i just try to brighten the day a lil u kno
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
yourmommproductions (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | SpamChris brown is a wife beaterr. No Body likes him any more. Its going to be really hard for him to become famous again if he even does at all. Wow! Biggest mistake of his life.TigerJon02 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | SpamWatch out Jordan, he might slap you around if you piss him off.dexmex91 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | Spamhe asked rihanna how is she supposed to breathe with no air?UltimateLifeformSon (4 hours ago) 0 Reply | Spamno one like chris brown shoot!i mean beating up girls,did your mom ever tell you boys cant hit girls!topher19kid (7 hours ago) +2 Reply | Spamhe deserves what ever he gets i hope sum big man kicks his ass he does jail time would love thatzafir992 (7 hours ago) 0 Reply | SpamI woulda beat that BITCH Rhianna if she gave me herpes too!Nasty little bitch shoulda told him something before they got in the damn sheets
TigerJon02 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | SpamWatch out Jordan, he might slap you around if you piss him off.
dexmex91 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | Spamhe asked rihanna how is she supposed to breathe with no air?
UltimateLifeformSon (4 hours ago) 0 Reply | Spamno one like chris brown shoot!i mean beating up girls,did your mom ever tell you boys cant hit girls!
topher19kid (7 hours ago) +2 Reply | Spamhe deserves what ever he gets i hope sum big man kicks his ass he does jail time would love that
zafir992 (7 hours ago) 0 Reply | SpamI woulda beat that BITCH Rhianna if she gave me herpes too!
Nasty little bitch shoulda told him something before they got in the damn sheets
― ilxor, Saturday, 21 February 2009 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link
boy o boy o boy
So... she's pregnant and they're back together? (Can't wait for the movie version of all of this)
― StanM, Saturday, 28 February 2009 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link
he asked rihanna how is she supposed to breathe with no air?
i'm lolling
― lil waynes babymama (musically), Saturday, 28 February 2009 08:59 (fifteen years ago) link
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think this is actually true?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link
If it is then I'm torn between pattern of repeated abuse depression and the spirit of forgiveness christian optimism.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link
(xpost) What do you mean? Have you ever read anything on the internets that wasn't true?
― StanM, Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link
rihanna, i have tina turner & ronnie spector on hold
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 28 February 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i44.tinypic.com/28s99qp.jpg
― ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Saturday, 28 February 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
lol for entertainment purposes
― Mr. Hater (some dude), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
dunno how i feel about them being back together. i need the wisdom of surmounter on this one
― z-hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I have been thinking this from the second I heard about it.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i wonder if the record company put her up to it...
― geir today, hongro tomorrow (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 1 March 2009 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link
This is all one big stunt before they release their duet cover version of "He hit me (and it felt like a kiss)"
― StanM, Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
rihanna needs to listen to her own fucking song 'rehab' :(
― lex pretend, Sunday, 1 March 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link
jesus christ
"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.
"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the s--t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "
The detective said she then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant ... who did not answer.
"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
Don't MissRead the affidavit (PDF)Chris Brown says he's sorryWhy some women go back to their abusersRihanna postpones Friday show"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle ... and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."
At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent her text message apologizing nine days later.
"In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [the second personal assistant] that he was going to get help."
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
It identified the woman only as his girlfriend, Robyn F. Rihanna's full name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty.
how did i not know this
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Latest news (in Belgian newspapers lol) is that they got married in secret?
― StanM, Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
holy fucking shit, that is awful
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean he almost killed her
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link
that is even crazier than what I assumed happened
I mean, he had her in a headlock as he drove down the street? wtf
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
innocent until proven guilty, etc, but holy shit
;_;
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
srsly
Brown sent her text message apologizing nine days later.
^^ is it bad that this part incensed me as much as the details of the actual violence?
― puff puff passantino (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
probably, but I had the exact same reaction
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I think its un-fucking-believable that she is back together with him. Indefensible, really. This sets a horrible example for young girls being abused by boyfriends and how its "okay". It makes me sick just thinking about it, especially after a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it".
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
kids don't know how to pick up the phone - my brother sent 1000 texts in dec., a majority to his gf, and i never once in that month heard him pick up the phone and talk to her once
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
1) its totally unclear whether or not theyre actually back together
2) what survey
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
says some dude on a message board
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
It was a survey of teenagers in Chicago, trying to find the original article right now.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
good comparison other jordan
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
putting aside generation gaps, changing technology, etc. "nine days" is kind of a big part of my reaction there, ESPECIALLY considering that his first big public statement on the matter (which was as much about people claiming to be him on Facebook as it was about the incident) was EIGHT days after the incident. that it was a text message is just the icing on the cake.
― puff puff passantino (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
actually i don't care that the kids text instead of talk on the phone, it's that they text constantly while carrying on conversations in real life.
but anyway, back to the sad and fucked up situation at hand.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Found the original article, but the stats have been pulled out of it. They may have been proven bullshit, so I retract that part of my earlier post. Still, just frustrates me the example this sets for young girls.
(xx-post)
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i'm not usually one for holding celebs responsible for 'setting an example' but there's something really chilling about the message that would send and how this whole thing has kind of played out in public opinion
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
okay are you saying it's indefensible on her part? people who have been in protracted abusive relationships often have a hard time leaving them because of the psychological damage inflicted. given what she's been through, it's kind of horrible to heap blame on her for her victimization.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i think we all may want to hold off on being mad at shit until rihanna actually makes a statement abt whether shes getting back together with dude
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i mean this is an ongoing problem in these types of cases right?
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm more horrified at her father's "I will support whatever decision she makes" stance, which I fervently hope actually means "I will kill that boy if he ever comes near my daughter again".
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm certainly not blaming her for her victimization, I just think its a shame that how this is playing out is certainly going to have an impact on the thousands of young girls that look up to her as some sort of role model.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I also council holding back on making judgments on how this is playing out until it actually plays itself out.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I love how everyone was eating up every piece of rumor TMZ spit out when this first thing broke, but now everyone is all "whoa whoa hold on, let's wait for an official statement".
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
the way this has played out in public is not rihanna's fault. this
a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it"
is a bigger cultural problem, not something that rihanna could magically make go away by leaving chris brown. i mean, i hope to god she leaves him, too, but i think people who get all righteous about what the victims should do in these situations have no idea what they're talking about.
xposts okay jon, i see what you're saying.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I think you're looking at different subsets of "everyone" there.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, March 5, 2009 4:18 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark
no no no not this one again - at least a day off from the politics of "everyone"
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm certainly not speaking from the point of knowing how she should be reacting, my original post was worded badly. I'll just be really disappointed if she does get back together with him and it all kinda gets swept under the rug. Because, silly or not and like it or not, she is a role model and this will certainly make an impact on how some girls may treat a potentially abusive relationship.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
hey now 1 of my best friends is everyone
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha point taken
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Lots of real people think they should not get back together.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
has everyone heard of kevin smith?
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
who?
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
she is a role model and this will certainly make an impact on how some girls may treat a potentially abusive relationship.
okay but shouldn't this line go, "chris brown is a role model and shouldn't have beaten anybody up"? i think there's a real tendency to get all into what victims of domestic violence (and rape, for that matter) should be doing to get themselves out of/avoid those situations but it always reads to me as a displacement--they're not the problem. it's harder to deal with what to do about victimizers, i know; but their behavior should be viewed as the source of the fucked-up attitudes we're talking about.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
that was horribly put; sorry, i got heated.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Of course! I thought that part kind of went without saying though.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
like, rihanna owes it to herself and her well-being to leave this asshole, but lets not put it on her if some young girl who loves "Umbrella" gets beaten by her boyfriend.
xpost well, i just think the way these conversations go is frustrating.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess I just wish she'd be very public about "fuck that guy and what he did", which is of course ridiculous to expect after all she's been through. Not blaming her in the least, just wishing it had played out in a slightly different way.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i know you know this, but if you're in a relationship where you get beaten like that you are in engaged in a daily erosion of your sense of self-worth. she can't be a rad action hero right now--she's going to need to recover.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah...I think most people are working from the premise that regardless of how it started, how he handles the aftermath, or what happens to him as a result, CB is pretty squarely the 'bad guy' here and people are little less concerned about what message he sends as a role model now that he's, uh, nobody's role model. And ultimately everything that happens from here on out (whether they get back together or he goes to jail or his career is damaged beyond repair) rests on what she does and says now, which is why we're speculating on her actions and not his.
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
^tbomb
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
― horseshoe, Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ 1 thing thats impt to remember is that its easy to cast this like the first & only time it happened which makes it seem odd that she not immediately condemning him--but unfortunately theres no reason to assume that it hadnt been a regular occurrence, maybe not as serious. and if thats the case--if in the past hed been abusive and the police WERENT called and it WASNT the grammies and he had apologized or what have you and she came back--it isnt that bizarre to see why its not an immediate cut-off reaction from her--its just that its public for the first time
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not entirely sure that he's nobody's role model. i read a quote by ne-yo somewhere defending him (i realize that they're friends and i do sympathize with ne-yo's position somewhat, but the language he used seemed to suggest that even if, as alleged, rihanna's injuries were at cb's hands, "we still don't know the whole story," which wtf?) i think attitudes like that are more characteristic of a culture where a bunch of people might think the victim of domestic violence deserved it than a victimized person not being sure if she's worth saving.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't I see somewhere that Kanye defended him as well?
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
There were a lot of guys saying this, largely I think because many of them are thinking "oh shit, the squeaky-clean poster boy superstar just threw the 'angry nigger' tag on his shoulders, how do we stop that".
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Kanye doesn't count, he just made an album about strangling girlfriends
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, Dan, i believe that that's likely part of the reason why ne-yo said what he did, but it still strikes me as an irresponsible statement vis-a-vis domestic violence.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
"And ultimately everything that happens from here on out (whether they get back together or he goes to jail or his career is damaged beyond repair) rests on what she does and says now, which is why we're speculating on her actions and not his."
Except it doesn't. His career can still recover even if she doesn't get back together with him or forgive him publically or whatever. Fans tolerate the most awful shit.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
You'll have no disagreement from me on that.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i hope jay-z has a hit out on him soon.
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Not to get into the debate of comparing the crimes of the two, but R Kelly has certainly escaped the taint of some pretty indefensible shit with his career intact.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe, Alex (although I kinda doubt it). but the chance of CB ever having a hit again (or, say, not going to jail) would be 100x greater if Rihanna is back with him and publicly forgives him, etc.
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
R. Kelly, in his utterly mediocre defense, at least had the advantage of being with willing partners (even though he should still be in jail).
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Uh did you read the thing above? I think her forgiving him is going to hurt her. It's not really going to help him.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
the nature of CB's image and fanbase has at least much to do with why the R. Kelly comparison has no practical applications as the nature of the crime
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I agree with that, too.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
i think it can hurt her AND help him but it's all kind of hard to predict
Okay, thats why I added my disclaimer beforehand, he was just the first high-profile R&B star I pulled out that was accused of some pretty repugnant shit and escaped with a mostly intact career.
(xpost)
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
True. I would just say that as a general rule domestic abuse is not a career ender. It might be in Brown's case though. Obv the fact that the victim is at least as famous as he is makes it somewhat different than oh lets say James Brown or whomever.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
That is an xp.
I wouldn't say R. Kelly's career is "mostly intact"; to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, his sales have decreased dramatically since the allegations, turning him back into a niche act rather than a crossover (although lol I wonder how much of that was because after 1000 installments of "Trapped in the Closet", people started going "wau okay, he is seriously ill and we shouldn't encourage this").
I have no evidence to back this argument up so I won't be investing in defending it; it's an impression I've formed that is likely incorrect.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah dan's otm - after the trial wrapped his career has been nill, and it's not like the label buried him
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
R. Kelly definitely went a little down in album sales and is more an R&B star than a pop star but he still has had such an insane run of hits since then (particularly 03-05 at the height of the controversy) that you can't really say it slowed him down. I think the quiet around his career lately has less to do with the trial than the fact that "Hairbraider" was no "Ignition."
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Double Up sold 1.4 million copies and debuted at number one, boy I'd love to have a "nil career" like that.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
the trial Jordan was referring to was June of last year
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
My mistake, I thought Double Up was out after the trial. But really, the court of public opinion weighed in long before his trial ever actually happened.
Anyway, way too long spent on a tossed off comparison.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
While R. Kelly has a career (sex crimes don't hurt your rep as much when you're a self-professed sex fiend), it sure put the kibosh on that Celine Dion crossover shit, U Saved Me or no.
while this is true, even then I can't see him getting away with much more than a chorus on a rap hit, i.e. Ja Rule's "Thug Lovin' (feat. Bobby Brown)." All that "ooh girl i wuv you forever and ever" shit is out the window.
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
everyone vote for CHRIS BROWN for the Nickelodeon Kids' CHoice Awards for "Favorite Male Singer"!!!!
http://www.nick.com/kids-choice-awards/vote.jhtml?categoryVote=10
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know, it'll be interesting to see what the public memory span is on this
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean yeah R. Kelly can still have a Top 20 hit with Young Jeezy if he wants, but the dude used to be able to get on shit like the Space Jam soundtrack.
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Will the 2008 Fave Male Singer have "Exclusive" ownership over the category again in '09?
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it is pretty safe to say that Chris Brown will not have the same career he has now when this is "over".
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
also chris brown and rihanna are robots as far as we know personality-wise - they weren't talk show staples before this shit. It's a lot easier for a guy to say "hey i put my thing somewhere i shouldn't have" than "hey i shouldn't have brutalized my famous girlfriend" and it's not like he's got that Hugh Grant charm in the first place. No reason to assume he was destined for icon status anyway.
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
chris brown always seemed kinda boring anyway IMO.
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
rhianna is way way better
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I thought he was a cardboard cutout until I saw him on the VMAs last year (I think?)...that whole solo dance routine thing he did was completely mind blowing. like next mj level
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
hmmm never saw that will youtube.
the only thing i've seen of his multiple times is that one david banner song that was "okay"
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
um turns out it was actually a CB AND Rihanna performance.
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe I'm thinking of something else. i don't know.
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
you're thinking of the performance from the vmas in vegas
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I love the "Wall to Wall" remix with Jada
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
OH MY LORD.
― ilxor, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:40 PM (1 hour ago)
okay, but sponsors and (hopefully) radio stations and labels may not. sure, suits jumped right into shit like jay-z vs nas beef b/c there wasnt really a bad guy...but if rihanna, one of the biggest pop stars in the world, (again, hopefully) takes a position like "fuck this guy, he brutally beat and near killed me," how can u see anyone monetarily, publically backing CB?
sorry if this had been addressed already havent read all posts
― the thick man from the late "imp!" clusterfucks (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Radio stations and record labels follow the money. If there is money to be made off Chris Brown, reformed, repentant, born-again, whatever, radio will play him and record labels will release his music.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link
It may take a year or two (or more or even more than that if he goes to jail) but Chris Brown is a very nice looking guy with a small modicum of talent. It is not beyond impossible to believe that he could reinvent/repackage himself to a forgiving public.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah pop music world is plenty happy to accomodate child molestors, rapists, murderers, wife beaters, etc. get real
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link
This is appalling, and I'm more horrified at myself than anyone, but I'm pretty sure that I could be part of that forgiving public if he released the right single.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I certainly own records by convicted murderers, rapists, wife beaters and child molestors (note: I'm not proud of this fact, just saying is all.)
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah yeah sorry I meant k3vin should "get real"
cuz yeah I certainly own records by all those types too and I bet pretty much every music fan does
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link
this is all wrong that by rihanna forgiving him means he has a chance at regaining public approval. wtf? he should be in jail. shouldn't be a matter for conjecture; he beat the shit out of her. why should he be allowed to drop a dope-ass tune? give it to someone else.
― or something, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 5, 2009 6:25 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think this is otm
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I had never even heard of him prior to this beatdown thing and this has been such a media feeding-frenzy that of COURSE he is gonna have a comeback. Don't you guys pay any attention at all to how media narratives work? It goes - rise to stardom>>triumph>>fall from grace>>redemption/comeback
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link
lol u old shakey
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link
jk but dude is one of THE massive pop stars of this decade
good argument itt but we really need a voice of reason here
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link
this is how I talk^
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm serious, that guys sounds just like me.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link
have you hit puberty?
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link
people who "are on youtube" freak me out immeasurably. Youtube should only be used to watch episodes of Freaks and Geeks and Beyonce videos imo
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a pity every male superstar singer isn't a wife-beater just to give narrative cohesion.
― or something, Friday, 6 March 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, March 5, 2009 6:07 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is way off topic but man that performance is like my #1 piece of evidence for hating Chris Brown as an artist (before all this stuff happened) -- the same "Billie Jean" homage we've seen a hundred times, the same marionette/Chaplin mustache retro bullshit that N Sync only did a few years before, goofy dancing that made him look like a frog jumping from one lilypad to another and absolutely no effort to not make his lip syncing seem like lip syncing.
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i never understood all the dropped jaws over that performance
― been HOOS, where yyyou steene!? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 6 March 2009 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link
that police report made me feel sick, really sick. i'd like to think that surely the leaked picture and then these details would hammer the final nail into his career but i guess shakey mo is right, esp if rihanna has got back together with him, and even if she hasn't he'll just go away for a couple of years, come back and act contrite and maybe give some money to a battered women's refuge or something :(
i am forcing myself not to blame rihanna in any way if she does get back together with him b/c i'm aware of the narratives of domestic violence - even though when i first read that she might be, i yelled "stupid fucking girl nooooo" at the computer - just, ugh. i blame the people around her. where are her girlfriends, her handlers, the people who should be telling her not to go back?? that said i understand why her dad said what he did, if she's determined to do this then all u can do is support them so you don't alienate them :(
but really someone needs to sit rihanna down in front of this on loop and not let her leave:
― lex pretend, Friday, 6 March 2009 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link
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― the thick man from the late "imp!" clusterfucks (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
those were sexman comments btw
― the thick man from the late "imp!" clusterfucks (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link
ill transfer money through the bank
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/rihanna-dad-speaks-out-after-chris-brown-is-charged-with-felonies--200953
― court suggester (omar little), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link
unfortunate title to that article : /
i cringe every time R's dad runs to the press with more soundbites
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link
robyn f. baby please say the baby
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i reeeeeeeeeally hope this doesn't end up like britney and her fam or the simpson's or something with rihanna's dad communicating to her via tmz
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link
this thing is so fucked
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i had the impression that rihanna wasn't that close to her dad in the first place, but really all his comments seem so far sincere and not really improper or inappropriate
― lex pretend, Friday, 6 March 2009 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link
the depth of the "so fucked" is why I seriously doubt he'll stage a massive comeback. If we had pictures of Whitney's face that banged up, Bobby Brown wouldn't even be on some damn CMT reality show.
― da croupier, Friday, 6 March 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope you are right.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think I own any music by any rapists, child molesters or wife beaters. And I'm not rushing out to put money in the pocket of any, anytime soon either. That's what illegal downloading was made for.
― eboue died for somebody's sins but not mines (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 March 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
there's not really any way to know how many rapists/etc. are in your record collection. but that's just one of the reasons it's pointless to try and take a stand on that kind of thing.
i do agree, though, that downloading means it's never been easier to enjoy the music without 'supporting' an artist who you don't like as a person, for better or worse.
― make me fuckyermother (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Some of the greatest music ever has been made by rapists, child molestors and wife beaters. You are missing out. That said I can't disagree with the desire not enrich them.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
a hoy hoy does not own James Brown?
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't actually! I have a nicked from a friend copy of Live At The Apollo tho. Taking a stand (by breaking one of the ten commandments) since 2009. (Also ignorant enough to not know James Brown was a sex offender of some kind.) :)
― eboue died for somebody's sins but not mines (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
by the way the whole "well im sure we all own records by sex offenders etc" argument is retarded and just downright shitty. it's a stupid excuse, and there's nothing wrong with saying "fuck this guy" and not wanting to support him monetarily in the future and hoping people in suits choose to do the same. and i resent being told otherwise, mostly becuase im not an idiot and am completely aware of the fact that people are forgiven eventually and i just dont want to have to feel conflicted about hating this douche
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Who said there is anything wrong with saying fuck this guy and not buying his records? All we were pointing out was that there are plenty of people who have done plenty of unpleasant things and they still get radio play and record deals and people still buy their records (people like me, for example.)
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
well i'm glad you've still found success despite your public atrocities ;)
sorry i was just venting anyway
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Venting at a non-existent strawman is a public atrocity.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
haha woah k3vin jesus
― Hateful Guard at Maryland Training School for Boys (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Who said there is anything wrong with saying fuck this guy and not buying his records?
Works great for Michael Jackson, too!
― ilxor, Saturday, 7 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:25 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:29 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u hello u guys are missing the whole crux of the point of the argument here micheal jackson never raped a famous little boy and had a picture of the aftermath posted to the internet and r kelly never pissed all over dakota fanning on utube duh - and neither of their careers were ever as vanilla as c browns - he is cooked - fuck that guys for good
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 8 March 2009 07:28 (fifteen years ago) link
great dancer tho
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 8 March 2009 07:29 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.thecorpse.com/forums/uploads/post-856-1236297637.gif
― StanM, Sunday, 8 March 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link
okay that is absolutely amazing
― lil waynes babymama (musically), Monday, 9 March 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yup, amazing.........
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 9 March 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
it's the shit-eating grin at the end that makes it
― Terius (The Reverend), Monday, 9 March 2009 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:28 AM (17 hours ago)
OTM
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 March 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link
gospel album."WTF?" duet with Rhianna about "how hard love is" on the followup album that all the kids love and all the critics rush to write articles about.presto.
― i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 March 2009 03:49 (fifteen years ago) link
my girl and i spent an hour or so listening to the eponymous album and Exclusive and it's amazing how often he talks about fighting and girl you can't get away and whatever. Really colors going back to them.That said, they're pretty damn good albums.
― i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 March 2009 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link
So this Pain to Go Away thing...?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Instead of R Kelly and MJ, shouldn't the closest comparison be Ike Turner?
― i wants a sandwich now (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I think you're supposed to feel bad for him! It's a ballsy track.
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Its funny how it twists the pleading tone of R&B boy-ballads
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link
you have to have an R. Kelly level of lack of self-awareness to start your sorry-for-hitting-you-girl track with 'feels like someone dropped a ton of bricks on my stomach'
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm gonna err on the side of this being an old track, cuz they'd have to have some fuckin balls to try and paint him as the victim and not put some ish along the lines of "sorry, blame it on me" out. i'm sure ppl will jump on the "umbrella" line but it's a pretty obvious metaphor for a teenpop r&b song that it's impossible to tell if it's definitive or not. either way this song is pretty dope
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link
you might be right about that; I suppose it's a song he made about rhianna from before this all went down. is this some sort of radio release or just something that's getting blog exposure?
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
if this is real i think it's smart for his ppl to "leak" an apology song (or whatever the hell this is) instead of putting out a song that's an OFFICIAL STATEMENT. on the other hand it would be a good move for them to put his apology song on itunes and then agree to donate 100% of the proceeds to a foundation for battered women or something.
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it's way too early from a PR perspective for him to associate his name with ANYTHING battered, fish and chicken inclusive. Dude gotta lay low for awhile.
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:38 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah - keeping his name in people's minds for whatever reason will just ensure that they won't forget shit
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 10:04 (fifteen years ago) link
and neither of their careers were ever as vanilla as c browns - he is cooked - fuck that guys for good
I think the vanilla part is irrelevant ... plenty of pop stars (e.g. Britney Spears) originally had their careers rooted in portraying a squeaky clean image. Add me to the list of people who think that CB's comeback + redemption is inevitable.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
after a half second of googling i've found lyric sites for "Pain To Go Away" from 2008, so no, it's not a legit apology song
― Badazz Luhrmann (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link
im still wondering what "fuck that guys for good" means
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck that, guys; for GOOD
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
yesterday i stood at a newsstand looking at all the magazine covers trying to figure out exactly what's going on between these two and couldn't get it straight. the tabloids (on covers alone) were telling 20 different stories. what's the deal?
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
the deal is there's been very little solid info so it's open season on making shit up?
― Badazz Luhrmann (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
ok. thanks for saving me a trip tmz
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Chris Brown and Rihanna are undergoing extensive plastic surgery/gender reassignment so that they actually become each other, after which they will get married and adopt 4 of Octomom's newborns.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
fuck it im gonna go check it out. this sounds crazy!! ^^^
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
That's just Us Weekly's version. People has something completely different.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:43 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
coming back to this for the hell of it -- pretty much every teen idol goes through some 'loss of innocence' type of scandal, but the when and the how makes all the difference...Britney's got pretty crazy eventually, but it still happened very gradually over several years/albums...at the age and career stage Chris and Rihanna are at right now, Justin and Britney hadn't even gone through their breakup/songs about each other phase yet. and Justin's big PR sin during that was i guess insinuating that she gave him blowjobs? whole different ballgame.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Autogoblin if you go to TMZ now, here's what you'll find out: http://www.tmz.com/2009/03/10/chris-brown-rihanna-mystery-woman-text-message/
― matt2, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link
blerg
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
so he's only finished because another celebrity is involved? I don't get that logic. (See also: Ike Turner, Phil Spector, any number of famous musicians who were well-known to be doing shitty things to their co-performers). The pop machine forgives all, because the only thing that matters in the end is whether or not the narrative makes money. Public morality is a non-issue, this is a market-driven thing.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
that goes double for the whole squeaky-clean --> fall from grace --> redemption storyline
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
xxxx no i meant like, when I was looking at the mag covers I couldn't figure out if they actually gotten back together, were secretly married, had gone on some vacation, if there were legal troubles for brown, etc, like wtf is going on
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
See also: Ike Turner, Phil Spector, any number of famous musicians who were well-known to be doing shitty things to their co-performers)
If you're trying to argue "the pop machine forgives all," Ike Turner probably isn't the best example to make
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
haha no kidding
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Ike wasn't really publicly vilified until Tina left him in '76. Up to then pop market was all too happy to look the other way.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
how fucking stupid are you
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
stay classy croupier
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
guys do we really have to be that mean?
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
we're talking about a battered face of a multiplatinum star on the internet and you're actually writing "well they looked the other way for ike turner"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
lots of differences between that and this, first and foremost being there wasn't an omnipresent media reporting on every ike beatdown
― and how (omar little), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
my only point is that CELEBRITY BEATS OTHER CELEBRITY is in no way a guaranteed career ender.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
if CB releases a genuinely affecting, well-received "baby I'm sorry" ballad or whatever and he and Rihanna stay together the press will eat that shit up
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
not if the song sucks
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
if CB releases a well-received "i'm sorry i beat your face in" ballad it will be well-received
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Chris Brown would have to turn into Eminem before that ballad would be well-received.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Look I'd like to think I live in the kind of world where Chris Brown will spend a long time in jail and that when he gets out he'll be persona-non-grata for the entire entertainment industry. I have no personal desire to see Brown be successful. But history has shown that not all people who committ scummy scummy acts get the comeuppance they richly deserve (see Roman Polanski.)
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link
It isn't a foregone conclusion that consumers en masse are willing to forgive Chris Brown, even if Rihanna and Akon are.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I do think it is a distinct possibility.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
(That was mostly a clumsy lead-in for "did you guys see the batshit crazy stuff Akon said re: 'oh, this is just what couples go through'?" but I do think adamantly deciding how this will play out for CB in the future is a mug's game (and yes, I was playing it, too))
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i9Th9k88njmoeIh1Nmw5KLNC1V1gD96R97200
"At the end of the day, what Rihanna and Chris went through is nothing different than what couples go through every day," he said. "They have problems, they go through issues, and some of them, of course, expand to domestic violence which I don't in any way condone. But, you know, sometimes you really can't control it and some people just need to seek help and figure out ways to deal with their emotions and how they deal with issues and certain things."
Nice mix of reasonable statement and total point-missing there (the fact that it happens in a lot of relationships is even more reason to highlight it because we don't want it to happen at all).
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Akon is a polygamist blood diamond profiteer who assaults his own fans onstage, and he still has a career, so I can't fault him being optimistic for CB.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
"some of them, of course, expand to domestic violence"
OF COURSE??
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm not sure what that means. OF COURSE, women will sometimes get beaten
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean yeah who knows what will come for chris but when we're discussing a teenybop cipher with three years worth of hits going "ahhh but people forgave these legendary figures (who went into exile and/or were seen as a fruit loop for the rest of their life) for their crimes" takes cynicism back around into naivete
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I would like to say that he meant to say "unfortunately" but I really can't.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
ts:
"At the end of the day, what Rihanna and Chris went through is nothing different than what couples go through every day,"
vs
When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
― and how (omar little), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
akon also once claimed to have a secret hit on the country charts so speaking of fruit loops
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Rascal Flats feat. Akon
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
"who went into exile and/or were seen as a fruit loop for the rest of their life"
Uh not quite.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe he's taylor swift
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
michael jackson, r kelly, phil spector, roman polanski, bobby brown all seem to fit this bill. if you really want to say "oh but james brown maybe chris brown is like that" go ahead.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Roman Polanski left this country (for a number of reasons) but from day one there were a huge number of Polanski apologists (hell they released a Polanski apology film last year) and it's pretty hard to argue it's hurt him in the artistic accolades department.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree with Dan though. This is a silly game.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
esp when you bring up "the artistic accolades dept" when comparing roman polanski to chris brown.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Forget it, Jake. It's "Run It!"
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I was bringing it up in comparison to seen as a fruit loop for the rest of his life actually, but whatever. Sleep secure in the knowledge that his career is over. I hope you are right.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess you missed the "and/or"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't miss the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about though.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Spector and MJ both had hits well after their erm, "eccentricities" became well known. Ike too.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
MJ took fucking MacAuley Culkin to the Grammys for chrissakes
Yeah but those were real artists not teeny-bopper empty suits like Chris Brown so you can't compare them anyway.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link
since we're clearly still playing the mug's game, let's try to imagine how michael's career might have been different if he was arrested for sucking off a little boy when he was 19.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Dude, you should have quit about fifteen posts ago. Your idiocy is showing.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i think he was mocking - miccio's last post otm
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
don't think anyone's mentioned jerry lee lewis - which is an (admittedly dated) example of scandal taking down a talented pop career for good
― iatee, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
you have to remember we're working in a context where ike turner's done just fine
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah but if picture of tina turner beaten half to death had been plastered on the cover of people magazine or whatever, might be different?
― iatee, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Spector and MJ both had hits well after their erm, "eccentricities" became well known. Ike too.― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkMJ took fucking MacAuley Culkin to the Grammys for chrissakes― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Jackson takes Culkin to the Grammys: 1991/1992Jackson is accused of molesting children: 1993
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
also what is really the timeline on Spector become well known for his troubles (beyond the usual "perfectionist"/"difficult" tags that are easy to initially handwave when someone is hugely successful and revered)? because he's produced only a handful of projects since the early '70s, none of which approach his early chart reign.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
anti grammy terror ?!
― depressed (usic), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Is Miccio da croupier? A light shines.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway obv none of these people is a good direct comparison for Brown (a lot were at the end of careers, some of their crimes were a lot less heinous, some were more heinous, and yeah some have left the country--big fucking whoop, most of them are hideously unattractive.) My only point was that it is well within the realm of reason to see Brown having a(nother) career at some point. Will he be completely unscathed? No. Still making money in the entertainment biz (don't forget guys he's a triple threat)? Maybe.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
singingdancing[tacky unfunny joke redacted]?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Wasn't he in Stomp? I guess he mostly danced in it.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
No wait it was Stomp The Yard! And This Christmas! Plus some work in the O.C.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
2006 Christmas in Washington TBA made for television (TNT)2007 Stomp the Yard Duron Small Role The O.C. Will Tutt 3 episodes This Christmas Michael 'Baby' Whitfield Main Role2008 The Suite Life of Zack and Cody Himself Guest Star2010 Takers Jessie Attica[53] Small Role
huh, did not knowxp: lol
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
oh wait, I remember "This Christmas" now, wasn't it basically "The Chris Brown Story, Only At Christmas"?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
he's also responsible for such great lyrics as "we've only got one night to dance forever" and "you're in disturbia"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, he was the "band geek" (as in marching) in a couple episodes as Marissa's sister's love interest. I am ashamed.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
This Christmas is a 2007 christmas comedy-drama film produced by Rainforest Films and distributed by Screen Gems. Written, produced and directed by Preston A. Whitmore II, it is a Christmastime story that centers around the Whitfield family, whose eldest son has come home for the first time in four years. The film's title refers to the 1970 Donny Hathaway song of the same name, which is covered by Chris Brown in the film as well. The film received a PG-13 from the MPAA for comic sexual content and some violence and 12A by the British Board of Film Classification for moderate violence and sex references.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess the third leg of the Triple Threat is debatable.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
as far as movies that you pick from on-demand when you're bored as fuck this christmas isn't that bad actually
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
there's this part at the end where the cast, at this point out of character, split into two lines forming a kind of runway and every person takes turns dancing down the runway, one of the more randomly heartwarming things i've ever experienced in a movie
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Better than Prom Night?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
hahah i will report back after i inevitably watch that this week - this christmas is way better than the invisible but not as good as P2
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
chris should reach out to tyler perry
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
After an attack leaves him in limbo -- invisible to the living and also near death -- a teenager discovers the only person who might be able help him is his attacker
basically this kid goes into a coma but he becomes a ghost so he can save himself
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
you should see more family comedies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
okay lol, THAT'S the plot to "The Invisible"?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
lol yes
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
just to clarify my oft c&pd 3am drunken post w/the indecipherable ending i could see chris brown hanging around having some minor hits and being partially rehabbed but his career as it was of #1 hits big endorsement deals prime slots at the vmas fawning media coverage etc is over.
the reasons why this story is different than a lot of past celebrity scandals and why brown will be rejected by a good percentage of fans and corporate interests are: it exactly contradicts his carefully crafted image which is the basis for a lot of his appeal, he beat the shit out of a v popular celebrity who a lot of people care abt and feel like they know personally, theres at least once photo of the suffering inflicted making the whole thing much more real than if it was just a story.
i could see if rihanna carries through w/the rumored public reconciliation it hurting her career too. people dont want to hav to think abt a fucked up outcome to a fucked up event from this music they just want a lil fun and positive emotion. jettisoning his ass and releasing a since u been gone would be the way to go from a career and life standpoint imo.
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
This Christmas is watchable almost solely because Lauren London and Sharon Leal are in it
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Maaan, FUCK Chris Brown and his career. Honestly, who cares? The better question is why isn't the Rihanna thread getting much attention? Why is the initial reaction to discuss Chris' career and not hers?
― tea cake, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link
we hav another rihanna thread on the secret bord
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not on 77 so, with Rihanna aren't we all assuming that while she takes this time to hopefully sort her head out and figure out what she's going to do, all the huge songwriters/producers are trying to write the best freaking songs of their career for her?
― i wants a sandwich now (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
It's obvious that this is going to make her a bigger star (may have already...), whereas with Chris the whole thing is murkier.
― messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:44 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/nickkidschoice.jpg
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
― tea cake, Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
in most instances of violent crime, people spend more time discussing the criminal's background/motives/future/prosecution, and when it comes to the victim people mostly wish them well and a speedy recovery. why is this difficult for you to understand?
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf new yorker http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/03/new_yorker_blog_chortles_at_ri.html
― just sayin, Thursday, 12 March 2009 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i could see if rihanna carries through w/the rumored public reconciliation it hurting her career too.
Well, the backlash has already started. A lot of people are critizing her for going back to Brown (and marrying him, as the rumour goes).
― the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Thursday, 12 March 2009 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link
milk it for all its worth guys!
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
: /
― and how (omar little), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
"Da Don said in a statement." <-- at least this is kinda funny. The rest makes me really sad.
― matt2, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd give that 50% odds of never being released, 30% of all proceeds going to charity and a 20% likelihood of this is why god invented illegal filesharing
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't wish Rihanna any kind of backlash or consequence regardless of what decisions she should or shouldn't make right now, but I have to admit it would be kind of awesome of they tried to turn this into a cynical publicity stunt/comeback duet and the public reacted with total disgust and it was a flop.
― som nambulistino (some dude), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
although the fact that their version of "Bad Girl" wasn't even officially released and still managed to chart in the direct aftermath of the incident is a pretty strong indication that that won't happen :(
― som nambulistino (some dude), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
i hope it's a club banger.
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
― StanM, Sunday, March 1, 2009 6:00 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark
I WAS ONLY KIDDING! FFS!
― StanM, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i lold
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
(and it felt like a zing)
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
"WTF?" duet with Rhianna about "how hard love is" on the followup album that all the kids love and all the critics rush to write articles about.presto.
― i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Monday, March 9, 2009 3:49 AM (3 days ago)
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
WHATS THE BIG DEAL?
― H3LP, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
this revelatory bit of news is even more evidence that rihanna is in need of H3LP
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link
we should all murder the shit out of chris brown whatd u guys say
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
they'd make a (u73 couple
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Was this the survey talked about upthread?
http://www.bphc.org/news/press_release_content.asp?id=473
― ‽, Saturday, 14 March 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
That was on the news here; I must admit my initial reaction to the outcry over it was "lol did you people forget that you live in Boston???? lol neanderthals"
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Saturday, 14 March 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I think most of the frustration towards Rihanna (at least in this thread; I can't speak for the millions of kids who think she deserved it) is geared towards the fact, by going back to Brown, she's reaped much of the reputation-damage and career-damage that rightfully belongs to Chris...I can't say for sure what shape Chris's career is going to take (though I can see five years down the line, him becoming a niche act, prolley toughening up hi simage, perhaps even reinventing himself as a rapper), but by going back to him, Ri's career has been damaged too...and that's tragic...
I don't see how anybody really can blame her...the aforementioned comment about how an abusive relationship ravages one's sense of self is about as otm as it gets...but (this has been said beore too) she should have sort of support network of her family, friends, record company, who should be protecting her right now from herself, keeping her away from that man unitl she has the strength to do it herself...she should be in intensive therapy right now; she should definitely not be in the arms of her assailant...
This is why I suggested at first that the record company was behind it...I don't know if the both of them record for the same record company, or if there is a lot of synergy between them or whatever...all I know is that the complete and utter failure of Ri's record company to act in their artist's best interest by allowing this to descend into a TV-tabloid spectacle, allowing her to do all sorts of damage to her viability as someone who can make millions of dollars for them, is so astonishing that one begins to suspect that maybe this whole kiss-and-make-up thing was an extreemely ill-advised plan concocted by them in order to salvage something from the whole Chris Brown enterprise...you know what I mean?
― sing everybody deutsche deutsche (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 15 March 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/03/19/fashion/19brown.1-650.jpg
this is outside the courthouse
― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Jesus. Someone should just smack the hell out of those two.. wait.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Too soon?
I was reading comments on Essence that were posted after interviews with Salt and Pepa re: this whole thing and it's really disgusting the number of "it was totally her fault because she hit him first" messages there were.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Every time I click on this thread I read the first post as saying "Great cock too."
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/chrisbrown_comics.jpg
― chap, Sunday, 29 March 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.atlnightspots.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/3435003.jpg
wait for real?
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
haha oh i guess that was booked and cancelled a long time ago nm
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
unless polow da don is now a booking agent
hahahah
― I DIED (deeznuts) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
it's the way it's not even that implausible
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i still can't listen to his voice btw. i assume this won't last, but...not yet
how is that even 'best of both worlds' of anything...Virginia and Barbados?
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
one is a boy and one is a girl?
― I DIED (deeznuts) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't get it, which is which
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
check the tattoos
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
would check rihanna's tattoos
― The-Reverend (rev), Monday, 6 April 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
guiltily listen to throwed from time to time still.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link
so do you avoid music by all suspected/convicted abusers or just chris brown?
― lil waynes babymama (musically), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a lot easier to say goodbye when the abuser is as dead ass boring as chris brown
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
the weird thing is i strongly disliked the kid a couple years ago but now he has a handful of songs i genuinely like, and even though i think he's totally despicable as a person, i will still jam "No Air" and "Yo" and "Freeze" and not think about all that stuff.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i know i've seen his videos a ton of times, i can't even recall one song or melody or hook except for that david banner song
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
lol he has a song called "say goodbye"
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i still rock all my chris brown jams, of which there are many
i'm not deliberately avoiding listening to cb out of principle, i'm fully aware that i'll go back to them at some point, but just...not yet
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
lol this is so, so, so true
Fortunately I never actually owned anything by him and never planned to get anything by him because he's corny, so it's kind of a non-issue for me.
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
given how much Dom was into CB's music I really wish he was still here to share his opinion right now. RIP.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I keep trying to find the greater appeal in Ne Yo, seeing as it seems I'm gonna have to settle for that cat until CB gets a media exoneration and can release goofy ass pop without people gasping, but NY is just so fucking straight-faced and full of gravitas.There's nothing posi about smacking up your girl, pop star or not, but Brown was always mugging to the camera and really sounded like he was enjoying his moment. Ne Yo sounds like he has a dinner date at 8 and needs to hit the gym first, so let's get this bar over with.If y'all have some joyful Ne Yo songs (or another suitably goofy contemp R&B kid for me instead), please point em out.
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
idk forks, i could see what you're saying wrt ne-yo on some of his album tracks but "closer" and "miss independent" are two of the best clubby r&n trax in a long while imo
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I think you want The Dream, maybe?
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
have you ever heard Ne-Yo's first single, "Stay"? always thought that was a good uptempo jam, but yeah i kinda know what you mean, joyful is not really an adjective that comes up a lot with his stuff, but then that's not what i listen to him for.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I find "Closer" to be incredibly joyful.
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i love hearing it but i dunno, what i like about it is that it's a little brooding
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
eh, The Dream is boring in a lack of sui generis qualities way that makes most quiet storm shit seem scintillating.I'll go back and relisten to those tracks; I got the album... just not clicking.What DO you listen to Ne Yo for?
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
o never mind, you just intimated
I listen to Ne-Yo for his voice. I think he's got great pipes.
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
there really is noone else on the radio i enjoy singing along with more. not that i can sing, but he's right in the perfect register where i can pretend to hit the notes and there are all these great little twists and turns that make the melodies fun to sing.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
ya forks wtf are you talking about
btw if you want singalong choruses go with "single"
― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
mad is best sing along chorus, miss independent is best for verses
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
so sick is best 4 all time
Somehow he misses the sweet spot for me; just can't find him compelling.Everybody else seems to love him...>shrug<I'll try the album again front to back.
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
"Mad" is only fun to sing along if you pretend he's sneezing in the chorus like "i don't wanna go to bed mad -- achoo!"
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's known that i will stunt for "mad" forever, but i kinda thought "single" had the better singalong. also, "mad" is on the radio, so it might be easier to run into that
looool xpost
― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think Ne-Yo is compelling per se, i don't rate his albums as highly as other people here and he's a bit bland and edgeless, but he's very good at his craft and makes tons of enjoyable singles
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i think YOTG is pleasant to listen to but there's a lot of songs in the middle of the album where i can't remember at all what they sound like — the singles from the album are undeniable tho imo
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah...i just saw that "Part Of The List" is planned as the next single and had trouble even remembering how it goes
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
it's okay... reeeally adult contempo but i guess lots of the album is - the chorus has a nice little lift tho
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
sounds like something off the free willy soundtrack
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yeah i remember when Ne-Yo hosted the BET video countdown, a really scary amount of his picks were MJ and Prince stuff from the 90s
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah and he was working out at chelsea piers and being really unappealing as i recall
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
'part of the list' is one of my favourites off YOTG. "things like your funny little laugh, or the way you smile - or the way we kiss..."
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah "Part Of The List" is the song where Ne-Yo says he loves the way his girl's right hand is bigger than the left and I crack up picturing him with a hermit crab woman!
― andrei armpitshavin (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
well, he never specifies girl
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
no hermo
― andrei armpitshavin (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
omg ship dying
― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
heyo
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:54 AM Bookmark
Uh....what? The-Dream is the most sui generis person making radio r&b at the moment.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:58 AM Bookmark
being a baritone sucks because there's so much good tenor range shit I can't sing :(
― tuppancewear party (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
The Dream is the most unique musician in R&B? uh?
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I would accept sui GENERIC, but not so much that other latin thing
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
forks is like the r&b tuomas
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 April 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link
listen here, speedy gonzales: I was gettin' it on to the sweet sounds of Luther Ingram while you were still doing the cabbage patch. If not loving the Dream is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry u cant get with the hip sounds of today granddad
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 09:15 (fourteen years ago) link
*throws a stax box set at durn kids*
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i can kinda sorta see where forks is coming from in the sense that the-dream is kind of like a generic r&b artist for the post-r. kelly/t-pain era, but i eventually came around to see that dude has some unique things going for him as far as singing/lyrics/production.
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
this is boringly true of all things but a great part of enjoying ne-yo is in getting into or recognising the absurdities of his character sometimes. a lot of guys could sing what he sings but (for instance) just him in particular top gunning the "commander in chief of my pimp shit FLYING HIIIIIIIGH" on the recent keri hilson collabo makes my lolday every time
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
with that silly beat as well
been lovin the way he sassed the "yes!" at 1:30 on this cut too
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
haha that silly Ne-Yo verse is the only thing I like about "Knock You Down." is it "pimp ship" or "pimp shit" though? i always heard it as the former and thought it made more sense in the lyric that way, but then i heard a radio station play it censored like "pimp ____ flyin' high" and got confused.
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
well yes pimp ship would make more sense to you wouldnt it.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
XD
anyway after "pedal to the flow, mane" there is nothing Ne-Yo can say that will make me go o_O anymore
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta also once again cosign any mention of ne-yo's first album: forks if you like this -- then you will like that
(not only cos the group scarily features ne-yo's EXACT looka/soundalike 1996 doppelganger!!)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
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I'm pretty sure it is "pimp ship"; he talks about being shot down by a "pretty little missile"; besides which I've seen it on BET uncensored in that fashion. I think your radio station is overly cautious.I'm gonna quit hating, but I'm just not hearing what you guys are hearing. Maybe I'll try again over the weekend, I'm on a heavy UGK/GMob kick just now tho'.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Just watched that utube; I have a soft spot for Chubb Rock and I like the harmonies there along with the Tone Toni Ton'e! vibe... Ne Yo just feels so much more processed.FWIW, he seems like a much better live performer than CB. Solid live dancer too.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
It occurs to me that i have a real double standard with high sheen polish with my pop stars: i don't mind if women are super burnished, but it turns me off when male artist are all megaproduced, image conscious and squeaky fresh and clean.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Anti-Chris Brown song causes havoc for 2 groupsAP
2 hrs 46 mins ago
NEW YORK – The unexpected success of a song criticizing Chris Brown has caused havoc for two previously unknown bands.
A group of DJs from Chicago found unexpected airplay last week when radio stations began playing "My Flow Is So Tight." The main lyric suggests that Brown, who's been charged with felony assault and making criminal threats against R&B singer Rihanna, should be beaten for his alleged crime.
Brown pleaded not guilty Monday.
The DJs behind the anti-Brown song called themselves Smoke Jumpers, but that name had already been taken by an Austin, Texas, hip-hop group. The group says they quickly changed their name to Jump Smokers.
The original Smoke Jumpers aren't amused. The group's Ashley Harkrider says their name has been hurt "in the minds of music listeners everywhere."
― display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
btw, he looks like a complete tool for most of the bits where you can see him behind Banner in Get Like Me video.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 10 April 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
See, this is where we differ.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 April 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
man, i can't even watch that video anymore
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
dude pretty much has always looked like an unctuous tool in most of his videos imo.
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i gotta get zs to do a photoshopped chris brown mugging for the camera with a "y u hate fun?" tag.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/ap_brown_070909_ssv.jpg
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, April 10, 2009 7:17 AM Bookmark
^^^this
― The-Reverend (rev), Friday, 10 April 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^fun hatin' is a habit, get like me
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it's the pubestache
― The-Reverend (rev), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
no, the chin stubble is douchier
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone else find this distasteful or am i just reading too much into it
― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link
nah I rolled my eyes a bit when i saw it
― i'm educated in sex, yes (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i might find it distasteful if i could work out what kind of point kanye's trying to make. she's empowered now? look what you're missing, chris? who knows. it's clumsy and ill-conceived but it's kanye, so yeah. rihanna's sartorial messages lately have been much better.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
well nah if anything it comes off more like the song chris brown woulda been singing yknow?
ugh fuck kanye for him making me weight this shit up even for a second rather than getting whatever vague belated summer pleasure this song mighta had
― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 May 2009 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link
meanwhile bow wow has a video out of chris brown bowling
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 May 2009 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link
just to make the point that i've never gone "ugh fuck kanye" like that b4 - this sounds really stupid but yknow over the last 6 years or whatever i feel like i've got a pretty rounded handle on the lassitudes of his persona and whatnot and this thing really has crossed a new and different line in crassness, even if he didnt mean it like it sounds. he is just bang out of order imo.
feel free to convince me otherwise, but.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 May 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link
this is... unfortunate i think. it def fits into kanye's career - cassie in the "stronger" video, even him showing up in that hilson video even tho he's not in the song - and def fits his personality of trying to always make as big of a splash as possible. and i think in his mind he's doing something good for her, but he's putting her on display and exploiting her, and i don't think that he would've chosen her to be in this video if it wasn't for the battery incident and the fact that she disappeared from the public eye because of it. since it's kanye there's no doubt that he's trying to make some statement with it - and duh it's block headed - but i can't really figure out what it is, except maybe the empowerment angle, and if that's true it's just very poorly executed. i think i have to side with rtc on this one.
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
showing up in that hilson video even tho he's not in the song
?????
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
trying to make a deal out of having pointless starpower in videos even tho videos rarely have impact on anything anymore
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
but...he's on the song
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah wtf
― songz in the key of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
how soon we forget "dessert OR DISASTER"
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
nah nah nah
there was a video for "make love" where her and keri fondle each other on a bed iirc - universal calls it a "viral commercial" whatever the hell that means - anyway the embed's not gonna work cuz it's on universal's youtube channel, but click thru
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
calling kanye "her" = a freudian slip
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
really kinda kanye's publicity grab was brought up on the chris brown thread around the same time this comes out
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda surprised, rather
big lolz @ a 'viral commercial' that's managed to go virtually unnoticed for a month despite starring someone who i find myself hearing about every damn time i look any any website ever
even bigger lolz @ it being shot during kanye's brief mullet period
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i hope his next album has some lines about his mullet period like "yeah that tuxedo might've been a little guido"
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
if chris brown smacked kanye > or < than hamilton's assistant punching him?
― im drunk so no forks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link
<<< yung berg running into a wall and knocking himself out
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
nothing will top hamilton getting punched and i'd rather see ye punch chris if anything
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link
oh right, so he is actually bowline, why didn't they just put the camera at eye level?
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 28 May 2009 09:18 (fourteen years ago) link
the actual video isn't really offensive at all
― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_en_mu/us_people_chris_brown
brown pleads guilty
― Arch Cancerped (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
5 years probation is probably a bitch but i think he should've gone to prison for some amount of time
― whiney g. gordon liddy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i heard some dumb chick call into the radio like "5 years is a long time, that was really harsh" smh
― my mans paul tsongas (some dude), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, if he's straight copping to it then fuck yeah he should've done some prison time.if there's any good from this, it's the judge imposing a two-way restraining order so both of them can make some kind of attempt to reset. But really, beating people badly then admitting to it should involve some punitive measures shouldn't it? NAGL.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but the way our legal system works, you generally get off easier if you plea out
― body merkin (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
also if you're spectacularly rich.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link
dickface
http://theybf.com/index.php/2009/07/07/chris-browns-300k-oops/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
i gotta say, i'm not at all mad at jay-z for blackballing chris from the BET awards MJ tribute
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
as much as people say "LOL JAYZ SCARED OF AUTOTUNE OH NOES", it's nice that he's not so concerned with going where the money is that he can still call chris brown a dickhead
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
omg what the hell
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit @ whiney's link - i think at this age he's leaning a bit closer to "huge fucking dick" to "a kid with good intentions making bad decisions (ie bow wow video)"
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
you stay class, Chris Brown.
― The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder what the people he's surrounding himself with are saying to him.wouldn't one of them say "hey dude, the 300K not my fault pendant? I'd let that one pass for the next few months"
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's been well established that lots of famous people (and i guess powerful people in general) only surround themselves with yes men so i doubt that chris brown's assistant is going to risk his scorn by going "uh that chain you just paid $300k for is probably in bad taste and you should never actually wear it"
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
and like i think i would be able to give the chain a pass on some "alright you are clearly young and dumb" shit if it said SORRY or IDIOT or basically anything but OOPS!
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
really the only way this could be worse was if the chain said OOPS ¯\(°_o)/¯
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
"my bad dawg"?
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i can think of lots of other ways that this could be worse
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
the true hero here is the jeweler, who milked him out of $300K and made him look like an asshole
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
coming here to post that I just had lunch one table over from chris (and entourage) not fifteen minutes ago at American rag on la brea. They were necking out MILFs and giggling about it. and his bentley's license plate is MRBENT
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
HI DERE otm, and i have no problem with him making horrible tasteless decisions like this if it makes it that much harder for him to rehabilitate his image and have a career again
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it's too bad the text-on-crotch BAPE look is so last year because I think he'd look good with "SHE STARTED IT" in neon orange across the front of his jeans
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I sincerely wish with all my heart that someone would beat the everliving shit out of him and put him in the fucking hospital
― tbqf fridays (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
is it weird that i've always had such a strong dislike for him and general impression that he's a huge asshole that my opinion of him hasn't actually changed much at all in the past 6 months? like i at least feel justified for it now, but the feeling's pretty much the same.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I feel the same some dude
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
tho I will say that the self-righteousness of certain anti-Chris people gets on my nerves
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link
fifteen minutes ago at American rag on la brea
you get some new shoes?
― velko, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link
there's no way that chain could be a direct reference to beating the shit out of rihanna...that's just way too stupid for any human being to do let alone spend 300k on. Doesn't his mom like manage him or something??? you'd think she would say, "hey, maybe get a different word"
or is there just no judgment going on in this kid's world
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link
he's probably outgrown mom management and based on his first public apology being from inside lil bow wows batcave bowling alley i don thtink it's a stretch to say that it's a direct reference to the rihanna situation - what else is he saying? "oops! im rich as hell!"?
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link
also i agree, i would like to see chris brown get beat up unmercifully and i for one really love his music - beating a woman that badly and then having no discernible remorse is just beyond despicable
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
who are you to say that he has no remorse? I mean, I don't get the calls for him to "apologize" - i'm sure he's apologized to rihanna and that's really all that matters.. and he's been through the legal system and has been dealt his punishment.. honestly what more do you want from him?
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't necessarily think he needs to beg the public's forgiveness, but he's carried the whole thing relly petulantly, like he can't believe anyone's holding it against him (i.e. that video where he plugs his albuma nd goes "everybody that's hataz, they just been hataz")
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link
who are you to say that he has no remorse? I mean, I don't get the calls for him to "apologize" - i'm sure he's apologized to rihanna and that's really all that matters.. and he's been through the legal system and has been dealt his punishment.. honestly what more do you want from him?― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:00 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:00 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I would like him to become a mod on ILX and ban you
― tbqf fridays (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link
and honestly though I've never been a fan of Chris, the whole BET Awards situation - if the Jay-Z rumors are true - is majorly fucked up.. Chris would've been the perfect person to pay tribute to MJ, and it has been said that the Jackson family requested Chris for the show, so really I don't get why they would pull him because of Jay-Z... I mean, who cares about Jay-Z anyway? And the BET Awards would've at least been somewhat watchable if he had performed.... it was disastrous.
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link
who needed to see him do a MJ routine again? go watch a rerun of the '07 VMAs.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link
shipley otm
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link
on all fronts
there are like a dozen other R&B singers who have sold as many records as Chris Brown that are as big or bigger MJ stans than he is, and many of them performed that night, so who gives a fuck if he wasn't there to represent with Usher and Ginuwine?
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Well I would've rather seen Chris pay tribute than have Ciara "sing" 'Heal The World'...
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
well fuck if i saw the show, i don't know if some competent mimicry would've been an improvement, i'm just saying.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i would've rather done anything else than watch bet's tribute to michael jackson - oh wait, that's exactly what i did
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
well good for you
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I for one was looking forward to the tribute and it was really awful on a number of levels, I think Chris would've been a nice addition to it.
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm just sayin...it's one thing to be a little bit of a dick about it (like he's been) but then to go out and buy a chain that ostensibly says LOOK I DID IT AND NOW I'm LAUGHING ABOUT IT in 300 grand worth of diamond is like a whole new level of malice
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ yes
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link
also, i'm not saying the kid should never get to sell a record again, or that his tribute to MJ wouldn't have been well done and sincere, i just think that him going on TV for that and doing the stupid Game song could've been his attempt to use this whole thing as an opportunity to sneak out of the penalty box and sail back into the public's good graces, which is gross.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link
is it really one thing to be a little bit of a dick about it? - i mean you'd think the mindset would be "wow people are acting like dicks to me, but then again i did beat my girlfriend senselessly for no reason whatsoever"
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't really know of anything he's done that has been so bad in response (clearly not defending the actual act, of course) so maybe I missed something...but it just seems like it's so moronically un-self aware that it must be impossible
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
he pretty much got away with it. save losing the doublemint sponsorship bawww
― tbqf fridays (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I honestly think it means OOPS I SPENT 300K ON A CHAIN. seriously.
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a post T-Pain big ass chain chain...he set a precedent for meta-chains
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Honestly, I find his misuse of resources that could put a small graduating class through four years of college more despicable and offensive than a poorly thought out slogan on a garish piece of junk. Fuck's sake: if he had written "I'M SORRY" in burning hundred dollar bills stacked five feet high, it would be just as ugly, stupid, hateful and egotistical as this obscenity.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm just going to repost this:
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Blood Diamonds '09 featuring T-Pain (Breezy Refix)
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I seriously can't look at this thing without cracking the fuck up:
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo126/theybf/July%2009/2d47cb39.jpg
Does he think he's living in a comic book?
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
(also for a split-second I thought the bit that says "graffiti" said "OPRAH")
dimestore psych/
I think he really believes he's part of the post-modern pantheon and, god help us all, hes probably right.
/dimestore psych
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
xp, first look i thought it read "Crappity"
"the post-modern pantheon"
waht.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think the Chris Browns of the world are on the Kanye/Gaga "THIS IS POP ART" train yet, but they probably will be by the year's end, so hey
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
modern pantheon: marilyn, james dean, elvis, john lennon, mj whatever
pomopantheon more like: jay, britney, b, lohan... people who are better known and adored by more people than say, stephen hawking, and who (think they can /actually get to) live in a world above and beyond moral imperative
it's early in the morning for me and i've been reading grant morrison; I may be spouting bullshit. hence the /dimestore tag
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
thank you, dimestore tag darrell
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
some dude, Brown was absolutely headed that route; I may be putting too much weight on the "ANDY WARHOL IS DEAD" shirt breezy wore in the Freeze video. Actually fuck that: everybody's embracing superfatuous superflat at the moment. Not having meaning is the new having meaning.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i forgot about that shirt, maybe my estimation was off by a few months
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
real talk your post about Kanye's pomo bullshit in the 808s thread was some truth bomb shit to me, so i'm not fronting on your ideas at all
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw I thought you just wanted to make a Dimebag Darrell joke (because I did and I am king of projection)
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
needs to break out a 'ike turner is dead' shirt before he truly makes the pomo grade.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
oh my god i just refreshed the page and saw the updated "1 year passes""1 week passes" that appear to have been newly implemented and I thought I had accidentally clicked to another thread and someone WAS QUOTING THIS THREAD in some sort of an odd way and I had a moment of psychotropic freakout
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
xp, didn't think you were dude. i blame kanye for a lot. proving there was a market for this stuff condemned us all to have to repeat it for the next few years
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf. wow chris brown.
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
otm on the pomo reading
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I lol'd at the pendant but mostly because its so unbelievably fucking ugly. dude spent 3k on that? Loser.
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
no, he spent 300K on it
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
kanye is like a super virus worming his way through all of hip hop and r&b turning everyone into passive aggressive bitches that dress like breakdance movie extras
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't tell if that ruins or saves "The Matrix"
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
xp yes and to think that some people dared to claim that ANDRE 3000 was to blame...so is it safe to say that the SOft Serve Space Age Raps has given way to pomo trappings in the greater pop landscape? Are all our popstars going to be walking superflat vacuums of unaware fastuousness
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Are all our popstars going to be walking superflat vacuums of unaware fastuousness
um for the most part this is how pop stars have been since the beginning of pop
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
besides a few have any gone so far as to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on completely meaningless yet totally meta and sefl-referantial walking advertisements of their own vapid postmodernism? like a BIG ASS CHAIN chain or an OOPS chain?
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
man on the real, i probably talked shit about andre at the height of the whole thing and daaaaamn....how dumb was I? andre is like one billion times more quality that any of these new jack shitheads and jesus who was i to question the man that made southerplayalistic and atliens and aquemini and etc etc?
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
The thing is, Andre actually knew how to build a narrative.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
kanye is like a super virus worming his way through all of hip hop and r&b turning everyone into passive aggressive bitches that dress like breakdance movie extras― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n big headturning-in-the-office-"what's-so-funny?" LOLZ on that
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
not to get all KRS-1 up in here but where is a quality hip hop star that will reject swag in favor of big upping your community? Fuck your car, fuck your jewelry, fuck your news-op foundation charity bullshit; i want Lil Wayne to embrace a full on sinead o'connor middle-class life where he gives his mansion to refugees. Is it too much to ask to expect JUST ONE UNDERTALENTED OVERPAID MOTHERFUCKER to do a "oh god how i'm wasting my life" headspin and devote their lives to a good cause while still making music? Even if it was just legalization of marijuana for crissakes.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
there hasn't been anybody in hiphop like that in a long time
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i too am aching for a quality hip hop star to change their life around and in the process start making completely boring music
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
there hasn't been anybody in rock music like that in awhile either, in that case
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img.thedougie.com/assets/imgx/5/1/0/5/6/8/1/orig-5105681.jpgur princess is in another castle
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
the rappers who actually give a shit about community activism or giving back to the hood don't have the time to become famous too and the rappers who are already rich and have half a conscience just cut a check for the pet cause of the year and then keep it moving
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean every rapper i know here talks about how they'd "give back to the hood" if they made it big, but the only ones who actually would probably won't blow up because they're already doing social work or running rec centers and don't need $ to make a difference anyway
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
having their cake and eating it too, basically
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
However, Juvenile's Slidell, Louisiana home was damaged but not destroyed in Hurricane Katrina near the end of the summer. In the aftermath of the hurricane, he worked with fellow New Orleans rapper Master P and other hip hop artists to raise funds and supplies for the victims of the hurricane.
ha, i only knew this because at his jazzfest show a few years ago he was mad that the crowd wasn't giving him enough love or something, and was all "come on, don't you know what i've done for this community?!"
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
yeah that's another thing, the established guys actually doing shit partly have the time for it because their career's already on the wane
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda agree with forks' rant tbh
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean someone as in demand as T.I. isn't going to spend a huge amount of his time doing community service unless a judge tells him to. xpost
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
it's weird whenever i read people dissing hip-hop that's trying to be positive (even when the music is ok), like it's some kind of weak move.
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Juvie does seem to have a solid track record with being civic minded from what I know.I dunno; maybe there just needs to be a coalition to shame these guys into doing a Stop the Violence style movement to do a needle exchange or asthma inhaler distribution or turn-in-your-gun amnesty. Works in the NFL/NBA.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
TI is in a good position to engineer this sorta thing! If he gave a shit.
A lot of cats is just getting money. Like “this some shit I do to get money.” Get money, there ain’t nothing wrong with that. If you did something and the numbers came in right then by all means [get paid]. But if you looking at this like “this is just something I do to get money” then you don’t really love this shit. You don’t breathe it, you don’t believe it. So you can make the statement that there’s some bullshit. But if you really love this… - Manny Fresh
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
^really outta context, but still appropriate i think.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i gotta say, even tho it might've been hamhanded and sometimes was like "hey im playing a concert!", guys like jeezy and luda and jay-z did some decent work for obama and just getting people in lower income neighborhoods registered to vote in general - it was way better and more hands on than VOTE OR DIE shit and hopefully kind of set a tone for how rappers should approach elections moving forward
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
like i know tons of ppl who are way less busy than young jeezy who did waaaaaay less to get people registered to vote
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i have to say even though there was some pretty dumb shit going on in rap last year re: Obama (cough Luda cough) for the most part those guys didn't drop the ball, had the right amount of involvement without either doing too little or becoming too much a part of the story
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Uh, David Banner, guys
― WS not WS (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ good example
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
he probably really is putting his money where his mouth is, since he makes all his $ on movies now and seems to take a lot of time between projects
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
More genuinely political hip hop, both in action and in verse, is always welcome. The Obama camp's very delicate dance with Jay was another damning indictment of the way that mainstream america views contemporary hip hop now; the president can't even cop to enjoying the music!
i still wanna see some for real old schoolagitate educate organizeagitate educate organizeagitate educate organizeaction
banner's a really bright guy; his loudmouthed homophobia is pretty distressing, but he's definitely a positive otherwise. Shame that he's been kinda eh on the singles lately.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
uh, weren't there a billion articles last year about how Barack has Jay-Z on his iPod?
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
banner's a really bright guy; his loudmouthed homophobia is pretty distressing
^^seems contradictory
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
it's possible to like books and hate bitches at the same time
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
er, hate fags i should say
no idea why i feel the need to make these points on the breezy thread except that this nudnik throwing away 300K on that piece of shit is almost as upsetting to me as his violent streak. so indicative of a sick culture.
xxp - ever heard barack quote a jigga line?
xp - yeah, point granted omar.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
yeeeeah but iirc jay got shutout of prime seating at his acceptance speech
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
opposite of kanye?
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ever heard barack quote a jigga line?
why does this matter
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
he's a bright homophobic rapper who condemns capitalist culture and sings about big rims and strives to freak out the white middle class when he's not acting in hollywood movies
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i34.tinypic.com/2rxfqsj.jpg
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Ronan909: "q theres a line on jay z's the blueprint, it reads simply 'i will not lose ever FUCKER'"
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
it matters because his appreciation of jay-z HAS to be abstract to be acceptable. and yes, there were plenty of articles about obama's camp having a hard time finding a way to officially host a jay show without becoming affiliated with Jay's more socially offensive lyrics
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
getting lunch, but enjoying this convo.
i dunno, i've got enough friends who deal with homophobic bullshit to not give some asshole like banner a pass on that shit, even if it means he's "complex" (kinda why i can't really forget cube's anti-semitism.) these dudes are awesome artists who just don't need to traffic in that shit.
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know about you but it has never crossed my mind to attempt to drop a reference to "Lady Cab Driver" or "Siamese Twins" into anything I've done in the capacity of my job. Not only do I not see why it matters whether the President quotes Jay-Z or not, I really don't see what difference it makes if he likes Jay-Z or not; that is not why I voted for him. Perhaps if we were taking a road trip together and he wanted to control the music I would care.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, i'm not disturbed at all by BO's campaign having to be thoughtful about how to handle associating with any rapper -- they were thoughtful and cautious about everything, which is part of why they won. and i think it'll be a lot less touchy in the 2012 campaign, more open and laid back.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i mean i can understand why the obama people would balk at having jay do an official concert, but tbh at that point it's up to jay to say "okay, i understand" and use his general celebrity to help contribute in meaningful ways (not only donations) and it seemed like he was willing to do that in general
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
omar: "some of my best friends" on my end too; I am maybe more accepting of homophobia and general hatred in my music than I should be. I just like Mississippi too much to be too objective
hi dere: my point is that it's a strange oddity for Obama to "like" Jay and that it's acceptable only to the extent that people don't ask what his favorite Jay song is or why he likes him... not problems that he would run into with, say fleetwood mac. It's a fucked up world where you can't like the music you like because it would mess with your political potential. and i probably HAVE made reference to lady cab driver on the job, but that's just me.
dude: one hopes it'll be more laid back, but I kinda doubt it unless hip hop culture matures or infantilizes even more.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Americans in acting weirdly about a newish style of music pioneered/dominated by black people shocker!
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i hope hip hop is a new kind of music for another 30 years
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno man -- Obama talked about and referenced and was photographed with Jay-Z more than any president has with any other rapper -- for you to make such a big deal about it not being enough is kinda weird to me. like HI DERE said, what does it even matter? this is like the "is he black enough?" handwringing that most people got over or answered for themselves a year and a half ago, at the latest.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
this is like the "is he black enough?" handwringing that most people got over or answered for themselves a year and a half ago, at the latest
I am glad you said this so that I didn't have to.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i will never vote for someone that doesn't like jay-z, if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything IMO
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
oy, this is not a point I would've expected to be called extensively on? and also not one I really feel like defending. it's not a question of "being enough"; I'm not slagging on O.my only point was that hip hop stars being active in the political world is welcome but given the degree to which they're not taken seriously as role-models, intellects, artists or really ANYTHING but businessmen; I have to wonder how worthwhile that role is.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i didn't mean to drag it out or push you into a corner, i just thought you were trying to make one point by pressing a different and possibly unrelated angle. anyway, lord knows jay's been spending much of the last 6 years ago cultivating a more worldly "jay guevera" type image, but he spent about a decade before that talking money cash hoes too -- of course the establishment is gonna handle him w/ kid gloves, even if it's a newly elected 'change'-themed establishment.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
hip hop stars are totally taken seriously as artists wtf
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
well yeah but probably less so than any other musicians
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i still know people who refuse to call it "music"
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
just wanna say that i like that this discussion is happening in the chris brown thread
― Roz, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
my feeling is that even if genre/race/etc distorts things a bit, musicians generally get the amount of public respect they earn with their music and actions -- Jay-Z is totally respected, Ja Rule isn't, not that hard to figure out why.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^some dude OTM
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i find that people are more biased against anything popular than rap - people who hate lady gaga are probably gonna hate 50 cent but they'll probably rep for mos def or wyclef or uh jurassic 5
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
not any blinding insight here, but jay's sorta the madonna of the rap game; he's been real adept at metamorphosing into whatever works for his image without giving up too much cred. It's put him in a good position to be a spokesperson even when he doesn't really represent much about the majority of the people in his profession.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
people who hate lady gaga are probably gonna hate 50 cent
yep that's me
but they'll probably rep for mos def
I thought he was funny in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
or wyclef
FUCK NO
or uh jurassic 5
DOUBLE FUCK NO
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I state with confidence that most of the people I know IRL have no fucking clue who Jurassic 5 is, have never heard Mos Def rap and still think of The Fugees once you explain who Wyclef is.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I hate to say it...but on ILM (not IRL) I think J5 is almost underrated at this point
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
big xp to forx:ostentatious spending beyond all sensibility may be a symptom of a specific culture out of control right now but let's not try to say that misogyny or beating a woman is, too!
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
ha kudos for bringing this back to Chris Brown
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah kudos indeedand i think violence as a means to solve problems is absolutely endemic to way too much of hip hop culture; though with Brown i think it's more just about star culture and a belief that one won't be held responsible for one's actions... which the system has proven to be an accurate belief.
I will ride for more than a few J5 songs. They're fine.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but CB totally thinks that he's a badass and the only reason he's not a rapper is that he can sing
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
with Brown i think it's more just about star culture and a belief that one won't be held responsible for one's actions
eh some people are just jerks - rich/poor, famous/unknown, doesn't matter really. I mean if it was "star culture" that was responsible for this how come we don't see this kinda shit more often among the glitterati.
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
you're kidding, right?
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.vibe.com/news/magazine_features/2005/02/vibe_magazine_love_hurts_raps_black_eye/
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Dear Elizabeth M. Berry and her web editors:
<P>
That is the paragraph tag. Please look up its use.
Sincerely, Dan
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
that's just the sort of thing that'll make me cancel my vibe subscription.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think that will be necessary lol
― Sleep Causes Cancer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
what's that, honey? oh no, that's not a shooting star. that's just a joke sailing over shakey's head. you can make a wish if you want, though.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
lolz
― Sleep Causes Cancer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry my sarcasm detector seems to be on the fritz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 July 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
ok if you described that to me on paper i'd be hatin' but for real that made me smile big time
― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, 23 July 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
if a bomb killed the entire wedding party i can't say i'd be too upset
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
okay so based on the Related Videos, wedding dance entrances are a "thing"? christ
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
jesus christ that video is adorable
― la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"Remember that time we danced to the gum song by the guy who beats women at Jimmy's first wedding? Good times."
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Honestly that's about three million times better than pomp and circumstance. Anything that makes weddings less boring, I'm for it.
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually I would take pomp and circumstance over "hey, you know what would be HILARIOUS???"
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm
― max, Friday, 24 July 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
kindof amazing when the bride comes out @ the end
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
oh wow @ that for real :D
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
oh literally as i was watching that, andy roddick tweeted it :/
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
andy roddick looks like that other guy from dude where's my car
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I would take pomp and circumstance over "hey, you know what would be HILARIOUS???"― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkok if you described that to me on paper i'd be hatin' but for real that made me smile big time― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is some serious pollworthy TS
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i want to say im surprised at the h8 the video generates but i cant really say that i am
― max, Saturday, 25 July 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't watch the whole thing, but given the soundtrack I imagine the groom beats the bride to a bloody pulp at the end.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 July 2009 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link
― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:17 PM (2 days ago)
― SB Idiot (k3vin k.), Saturday, 25 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
that was so cute
do people say shit like this when people dance to charged wife beater james brown?
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
actually convicted
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
james brown wrote songs about gum?
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
and quite frankly, if you dance down the aisle to sex machine, you get a pass for life
"get off my feet"
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
"R.C.s Mom" by the Dead Milkmen to thread
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL.
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Seriously though, the choice of artist is oO
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know when the video was shot, but the song was out and a big hit way before this February, it's possible the wedding happened earlier than that
― some dude, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd say it's absolutely the case that this was before the Grammys
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link
No, it was recorded and published last week if I recall correctly.
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:44 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8wftGg9pA
― can i ox (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 August 2009 08:21 (fourteen years ago) link
now that's what I call a hard-hitting beat
― salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 24 August 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
it's no "humpin around"
― da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2009 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link
dude needs to change the narrative imo. Next video should have a wedding party or something, jump on that while the body is still warm u no?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 24 August 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/31/chris.brown.interview/art.chris.brown.larry.king.cnn.jpghttp://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/31/chris.brown.interview/index.html
― I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, the baby blue bowtie of remorse -- they're bringing out the big guns
― snrubber soul (some dude), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
tfg, for real
― stfuhut (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 August 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Auditioning for Stepbrothers 2
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 August 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
From Yahoo! headlines:
"Chris Brown says he doesn't remember beating Rihanna"
It was unimportant to him he forgot it immediately. What a monster.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
shit, this interview is hard to watch
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
fourfour otm re: this
― some dude, Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
oh lemme read that
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
The most assholish scenario (and don't count it out) is that he's implying that something he would reveal would turn the public against Rihanna. Unless she beat him with a puppy that then died, I doubt it.
― cherokee flux (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i agree w/ rich too
kinda thought larry was being a bit of an asshole when he brought up his mom being abused in the past and tried to imply that it was partly her fault. though after she responded about "how the situation affected her" i had little sympathy for her
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the CB situation, that is
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha I thought you meant her own abuse at first and was all "wau o_O"
― cherokee flux (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yeah i reread that and thought i should clarify
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
#chrisbrown'sbowtie is a trending topic on twitter
― write about this significant and fascinating and comlex artist (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking twitter
― cherokee flux (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking bowtie
― Breezy Boner! :P (some dude), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't see the interview, what did CB's mom say about how the situation affected her?
― matt2, Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
basically she commented on he way the "media" had treated her son and she felt bad for him for having to go through this. and i totally get that she's his MOM and wants to stand by her kid, but her even bringing that up filled me with so much rage, especially since she's a victim of abuse as well
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't believe he can't even get a simple apology right, that his handlers didn't block the many inappropriate cringeworthy moments of the interview (romeo & juliet references? REALLY????), that he keeps falling short of even my ever-lowering expectations of him.
i'm not "rooting for him", but i'd love him to genuinely show that abusers can reform, can commit to changing their behaviour, to show genuine remorse. and...this is just so far from that. CAN YOU NOT EVEN TRY FAKING IT, CHRIS.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't stop thinking about that bow tie, it is crazy.
― The ever dapper nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link
All he needed to do was say he was sorry, he's getting help and he's donating a shit ton of money to domestic abuse support groups. It's just stunning that he's not capable of sticking to a simple script. Kind of a douche, eh?
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link
at least he's legally obligated to stay away from ri-ri
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
and that's very least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ufnxjrPi0
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2009 06:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude has some sort of disorder which forces him to mug to the camera
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2009 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link
alright well the new new one is kind of great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHSyhc2xz-g
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link
hook might be underwritten but beat is @_@
WHHHHHHHHHHHHOAAAAAAAAAAAAA
― chris drown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i am transformed
if you're gonna beat the fuck out of a chick the least you can do for the world is buy this beat and have the starpower to get it on the radio
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link
it's pretty good and the beat is pretty nuts (swizz?) but i'm already bracing myself for the "transform your face" "jokes"
― some brood (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm going to choose to not post whiney's corny transform your face joke itt
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, THIS is what i'm talkin' bout.
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf, i did immediately say the joke was "forks-level"
― chris drown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha tbh i may have had the word "forks" in that post before deciding not to name names
― some brood (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link
http://16.media.tumblr.com/U93ivddvBj49ce5tNXyZWNfEo1_500.gif
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
between this and "disturbia" i'm starting to wonder if chris brown can only be inspired to write songs after watching shia lebeouf movies
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
song ain't really that hot, either, the whole thing is like a smudgy xerox of "upgrade you"
smudgy xerox of "upgrade you" w/ interesting beat >>>> any of these "leaked" ballady things prior
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
god I love that haters gonna hate .gif
is this guy's career still "over" lolz
― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
lil fat boy in that gif looks like he's on the verge of a total pratfall. i'd point and laugh.
chris brown song is half-ok but happily not amazing enough that i'll want to listen to it too much again. kinda unfortunate lyrics :/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
"is this guy's career still "over" lolz"
Oh yeah that's right there was a whole group of people arguing that, wasn't there?
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
well idk, a few leaked trax (still unofficial right?) don't prove anything either way except that dude's been in the studio and a few people are still prepared to work w/him. it could well completely bomb.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd say even if it gets released it's still proof that you can do the most heinous shit and basically get away with it if you are famous enough.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
non-famous convicted abusers can probably also expect their family and friends to rally round them after they've done their punishment too - violent men of any status don't tend to get ostracised completely.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe Dr Dre should have produced it.
― musically, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTw5wZXunyU
― 51 ways to leave ilxor (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
was wondering where affion was doing his impressions now that wild n out doesn't exist anymore
― no hongro (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
it's nice that he found someone who wears large sunglasses to do an impression of so that he's doing "____ with huge creepy circles under his eyes"
something especially sad about a bad rap song parody where they can't even find the instrumental of the original (or a girl who can sing as well as rihanna lol)
― australia.baby.train.escape (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
is "sing as well as rihanna" a euphemism? because if taken literally it makes little sense
― musically, Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i literally mean the girl on the song can't sing even as well as rihanna which is not very well...i hope i hoped u parse that
― hand (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i hope i HELPed er
you can't see me but i'm making the "whoosh" gesture right now
― musically, Saturday, 17 October 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
transformer doesn't hold up that well on repeat listening.
― Does the hole come standard or did you have to special order it (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 October 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
if taken any way your zing made little sense, musically, so i was giving you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't a zing
― hand (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
this is TERRIBLE
shit sounds like U2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-hSt1SbkY
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
all these new big horrible ballads are so big and horrible ("papers" aside)
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know if i like it, but amazingly enough i don't hate it
― some dude, Friday, 23 October 2009 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://tinypic.com/r/33kxaxf/4
― 51 sent (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i36.tinypic.com/33kxaxf.jpg
― 51 sent (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
took me a while but LOLOLOL
― musically, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://netdesign.net/%7Emoses/rock_rule/mok_sweetbeast.jpg
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link
looking forward to this tbh, still put on exclusive whn theres nobody around to judge
― plaks (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link
ok i am so disappointed that the bowtie isn't really a part of the actual cover
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
'I Can Transform You' and 'Crawl' - why did dude pick songtitles that sounds (to me anyway) so misogynistic and 'lol i beat her up good'?
also lolololol at that cover, bowtie or no.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno, those are both pretty abstract connections, especially "Crawl." I mean, unless every song was titled something like "Fairy Princess" or "Pillows Are Soft" people are going to bend over backward to find some vaguely violent or insensitive connotations to them.
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but how fucking awesome would an album full of 'Fairy Princess' and 'Pillows Are Soft' type songs be?
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
looking at that cover, we may yet find out
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
he should wear a darth vader mask and call the new album NAZI
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
he should wear a white tank top and call the new album WIFEBEATER
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^yesssss
― because I used to be a nuclear physicist (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
http://faithsambition.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/whammy.jpg
― Andy K, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/cb.png%3Fw%3D527%26h%3D81
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
we haven't yet discussed THE METAL HAND
― 51 sent (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
because Beyonce did the cyborg hand thing already a year ago and it's like the 80th most WTF thing about that cover?
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i love the capslock for the whole tweet and then "its called fashion" like he's saying that one part with a quiet intensity
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
"MechanicalDummy"!!!!!
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously tho' dude has a major 'rock and rule' visual thing goin' on there.i really wish he'd just laid low through 2010 and gotten his shit in order. I feel like he's gonna run head on into a wall critically, sales-wise and artistically.
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
if the hexes i been putting on him amount to anything it'll be literally too
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
k3vin wikk4
― plaks (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
uh wicc4
Had to check whether I was misremembering him rhyming 'habit' w/ 'Roger Rabbit' in "Get Like Me" but I guess his buddies are more Cool World.
― xcixxorx, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://api.ning.com/files/tNiUY-YUqL3RHDS1XkMLLJoqWi3piWI70Z7zDr9660Sar79l9jC53NctO7dEE9acsMMzvR887yqKh92zbScWXDoB87tF4rei/WFRR_0864.jpg
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
k3v u are such an internet gangster
― a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
if i still had that camron\m/.gif i'd post it right here
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.singingfool.com/photos/238/009999_75.jpg
― Bears Are Alive! (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 12:50 PM Bookmark
same cyborg hand she used to brutalize young hove?
― swagless price (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
oh i thought you just meant it was WTF on aesthetic terms. i dunno, i hate dude and think about what he did every time his stupid song comes on the radio, but i just don't see a song titled "crawl" or him w/ a metal hand on a record cover and instantly come up with some weird mental association with him hitting rihanna like you guys.
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
neither do i - though "i can transform ya" walked into it rather - but it's all rather unrepentantly aggressive
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
also i'm o_0 at how the expected laying-low period after an incident like this is no longer, like, 1-2 years, but...a few months.
except for the fitted girl pants (xpost)
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
honestly i'm just relieved that comeback duet Polow was trumpeting mere weeks later never materialized
http://i35.tinypic.com/28iw8br.jpg
― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― But no hope for norwegian posters, sorry. (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link
It's like he's daring the people that would normally buy his CDs with this.
― Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i actually see it with those boots on the orig cover anyway, everytime my eyes focus on a different part of the pic i'm like wtf? and have to check
― plaks (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_N2jvyLc6w
havin crazy impure thoughts tbh
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2znooR9ctk
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 15 November 2009 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link
cassie still has that haircut apparently
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 15 November 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
his interview on 106 and park was deplorable; kept going on about how "it happened and i have to take responsibility for it" with no acknowledgment of what "it" was. "I know I am what the public makes me." Ugh. Just a bass-ackwards kid running in circles, unable to make any sense of what he's doing or come to terms with how to change.
― because she looks awesome, like in the face (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 November 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah...at this point i kinda want him to keep giving these half-assed interviews full of unconsidered comments until he gets enough rope to slip up and say something really fucked up that people can't look past.
― some dude, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Having him do roadside cleanup was a bad call; judge should've given him 2000 hours at a halfway home for victims of abuse. He really doesn't seem to understand what's happened except specifically in terms of how it affects him and his entourage. It's mystifying.
― because she looks awesome, like in the face (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
The Lex writes for the Guardian:
Rihanna's leadership on domestic abuse
― Alba, Sunday, 22 November 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
loool, nice dig @ la roux!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
rihanna in the guardian was real inspirational:
"A whole thing happened overnight this year," she says, "the night before the biggest performance of my career, as well as 10 days before I became 21. It was a turning point. It was the end of an incredible year, an incredible album [Good Girl Gone Bad], the beginning of a new era, and it just felt like it was a wake-up call for me, and it had to happen. As bad and as terrible as it was, there's so much great that came out of that situation." I must look surprised, but she continues. "Even for him [I assume she means Chris Brown], like, he knows now that he's never going to do that again. And now, young girls also, they learn from it, and I really hope young men can learn from it. Even more than the girls, the men really need to learn from it. Because everyone's focusing on the women, but the problem isn't the women."Rihanna spoke about the attack recently in an interview on US TV, discussing the fact that Brown was "definitely my first big love", explaining that she briefly reconciled with him in the weeks after the assault, and then decided her actions were setting a bad example for young girls. "I realised that my selfish decision for love could result in some girl getting killed," she said. "I could not be easy with that part. I couldn't be held responsible for telling them, go back. Even if Chris never hit me again, who's to say that [their abusers] won't kill these girls?"
Rihanna spoke about the attack recently in an interview on US TV, discussing the fact that Brown was "definitely my first big love", explaining that she briefly reconciled with him in the weeks after the assault, and then decided her actions were setting a bad example for young girls. "I realised that my selfish decision for love could result in some girl getting killed," she said. "I could not be easy with that part. I couldn't be held responsible for telling them, go back. Even if Chris never hit me again, who's to say that [their abusers] won't kill these girls?"
― rap band (schlump), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
It's completely my fault for stooping to reading it, but MY GOD the comment section.
― lyrically launched salvo on a plethora of esteemed artist (The Reverend), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Beat me once, shame on you.Beat me twice, shame on me.
Beat me twice, shame on me.
― rap band (schlump), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qjKoNof-lY
― plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 21 January 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
that's awesome, wish I could dl it
― musically, Saturday, 23 January 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
ive never used this but here's a supposed youtube-to-mp3 converter
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I've used those before, sound quality sucks unfortunately
― musically, Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
loool i forgot to post the site, here it is if you want it: http://dirpy.com/
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Chris Brown's career: still going
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10263828.stm
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link
nice
― donk quixote (The Reverend), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
so the crying breakdown on mtv - sorry if there's another thread where this is being discussed, didn't see anything in new answers - anyway, people who come w/the "publicity stunt!" angle: what the hell is wrong w/such people is my question
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
it was on bet fyi
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't believe for a second that chris brown would be a good enough actor to pull that off, but the whole thing is still pretty disgusting
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
mostly because if this is his show of "remorse" or his realization of his sins, he's a bigger dickhead than we previously thought
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah basically fuck chris brown for all time
― it's detlef season, you schremps (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
nvr frgt:
http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/VIBE-Chris_Brown_relaunch_issue.jpg
so glad this guy's career is "over" lol
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
oddly I only caught like the last minute or so of his tribute and was like "wtf is going on, he isn't even singing!"
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I have absolutely zero doubt that it was a moment of genuine emotion that is rapidly being spun into a publicity stunt.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
haha same here xpost
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think it has anything to do with expressing remorse - I grew up in a house with a dude who abused women - agree "fuck Chris Brown" but on the basis of what I experienced personally growing up & what I later learned when I went into the psych biz, the shame & guilt these guys experience (nb: the presence of shame & guilt doesn't mean "therefore you have to give them a break, look how bad they feel") is some take-total-possession-of-your-being stuff - this is largely, make no mistake, a function of narcissism, but what that means is that a big old crying breakdown is the opposite of acting for these guys, kinda
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
fact is that he tried to be part of the MJ tribute on the same awards show a year ago, as part of his initial damage control/career revival and was rebuffed, and it's pretty impossible for him to pick a song like "Man In The Mirror" and for it to not feel like a big deliberate statement. so even if the emotions were real, he's acted like too much of a petulant, unrepentant child who doesn't see what the big deal is about what he did in the past year and a half for me to feel anything for him. it's like yeah, look at the man in the mirror, Chris, he's a talentless dipshit.
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think "he is acting" and "he is faking it" are equivalent statements.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Because yeah, as some dude points out picking "Man in the Mirror" as the focal point of your tribute after having the year he's had is saying WAAAAAAY more about Chris Brown than it is about Michael Jackson, and what's it's saying is "I am using a tribute that is supposed to be about a dead legend to tell everyone that I'm really sorry and not a petulant self-absorbed brat who wants everything to be in service of me."
The tears, I'm sure, were completely genuine, but they also feed directly into that self-involved narrative.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes! this is true. but I mean, that doesn't make the pain from which they spring any less real/felt. I don't know I mean obv. I'm too close to some of this stuff to really be open to probably colder/more realistic readings but when I watch that clip of dude unable to sing I think "wow, it may be that you deserve to suffer, CB, but you're for sure getting the full measure"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
At any rate, if CB really wanted to do a Jackson tribute he should have just danced and not tried to sing any ballads whatsoever since he can't really sing.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
but isn't that "pain" and remorse and the tears just self-pity? "look at the man in the mirror" and see a marginalized and wasted career, not "look in the man in the mirror" and see someone who did wrong by beating his girlfriend?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
if you really want to see the disconnect between critics and pop audiences you should have seen the "FUCK CHRIS BROWN" sentiment from every rock writer I follow on Twitter vs. the "OH MAN CHRIS BROWN WAS AMAZING" from pretty much everyone else on Twitter when you searched "Chris Brown"
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah the choice of song material seems totally self-serving and narcissistic, kinda self-defeating no matter how genuine his breakdown is. it's both genuine and horribly cynical at the same time...
otoh wtf dude you can't even make it through the song/you stopped singing? I thought you were supposed to be a pro, that ain't no pro shit.
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
The point being made (which I agree with) is that the depth of emotion is genuine regardless of how shitty the motivation for it; dude may be crying because everyone hates him more so than because he's a brat with itchy fists but that doesn't mean he isn't really upset.
Maybe you don't learn from self-pity but you sure as hell can hurt from it.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
no, man, not as far as I know, not "just" anyway - a lot of abusers (I can't say "most," but: a lot) hate the shit out of themselves - they know they're monsters, they wish they weren't, but they don't have the inner means to get right - they can sort of tell that the damage they took at some point has fucked them up for good - "self-horror," more like, which, right, is still "limitless self-regard," no doubt - but I mean - most people this fucked up, if there were a way they could make the trade quickly before their narcissism got a chance to talk them out of it, would give up their legs to not be how they are. their lives are very nearly as unpleasant as those of the people whose lives they wreck. that is the paradox of having survived abuse: you have to know, because you saw it first-hand, that the abuser was basically a big pulsating ball of self-hate whose need to not feel helpless couldn't be satisfied except at the expense of the people around him.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i really am sad that the convicted woman-beater's tribute to the alleged child molester couldn't go on without something weird happening
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
(really the most upsetting thing about this is that this means Chris Brown is going to be back on the radio this fall instead of quietly enrolling in college classes)
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe you haven't paid much attention to the last 18 months or whatever, but Chris Brown hasn't shown a lot of self-hatred or shame, mostly he's acted kind of perplexed and annoyed anytime someone fails to buy his album or play his song on the radio now
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
lol Whiney
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
actually I will applaud Chris Brown's cast-iron nuts if he releases a song that features the line "girl we can beat this thing/together"
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
well he did do "smooth criminal" last night didn't he?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
lol some dude what you see publicly from somebody is maybe what % of what's going on with them, do you suppose - but yr right, I only think about this stuff when it crests my radar i.e. when the guy goes off the rails somehow
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
okay maybe I should actually watch this thing rather than read reactions about it and form STRONG OPINIONS off of that because if he also did "Smooth Criminal" that is so smh that I'm likely to decapitate myself
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i will say that none of this was as fun as last year when chris brown/dj khaled committed suicide live on TV
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't you guys pay any attention at all to how media narratives work? It goes - rise to stardom>>triumph>>fall from grace>>redemption/comeback
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 6, 2009 12:49 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
I would just like to say "hey me, way to be OTM"
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, June 28, 2010 2:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i agree that you never get the full story with just what the public sees, i'm just saying judging all of his public actions/statements as a whole makes more sense than analyzing just one incident divorced from the context of all the other things they've done and said
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha okay so they did the "annie are you okay" bit of "smooth criminal" so that chris brown didn't have to say "i'm a smooth criminal"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
are you sure it wasn't like "rih-annie are you okay?"
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i was gonna say
"robyn, are you okay? are you okay, robyn?"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
The whole Chris Brown/Rihanna thing, from the finger-wagging cultural critics, to the gathering of comments from other musicians and friends, to publicly deconstructing every move he makes in the context of that whole incident, is wretched.
I'm not going to go out on a limb (that will immediately get lopped off) and make any claims to knowing about the guy outside of public persona and highly publicized actions, but has there been any indication that he has a history of being violent to women (or at all)? I mean, no one gets a freebie when it comes to battering the hell out of someone, but painting a scarlet letter on the guy and acting like there's no redemption for anyone who fucks up or room for anyone who's screwed up but has tried to make amends isn't going to help. Portraying someone as a fucked-up woman batterer and telling them that's who they are isn't really helping anyone.
― mh, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
but has there been any indication that he has a history of being violent to women
the jury of his peers that convicted him is a starter
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
dude beat a woman. he is a woman-beater.
I have never beat a woman, and I have "fucked up or screwed up" a lot of things
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
also as some dude pointed out, his complete failure to comport himself with any sort of dignity, let alone express remotely adequate contrition, since the incident doesn't exactly help his cause
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
mean, no one gets a freebie when it comes to battering the hell out of someone, but painting a scarlet letter on the guy and acting like there's no redemption for anyone who fucks up or room for anyone who's screwed up but has tried to make amends isn't going to help.
i think tons of people (incl ppl posting itt) were willing and in some cases (probably mine, since i liked him a lot as an artist) eager to NOT paint him with a scarlet letter for doing what he did, but all of his actions from the incident on have been completely petulant, and as ship said, pretty much annoyed at the fact that he had to address the situation publicly and that some people (radio programmers, journalists, fans) were now looking at him in a different light because of what he did
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
my understanding is that he grew up with a violent father and that this was the first recorded instance of him hitting anyone, let alone hitting a woman
I agree that he can and should be able to get past this; part of doing that is, for example, not being pissy about people being wary of his records in the immediate aftermath and not turning tributes to Michael Jackson into pontification platforms about himself
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
And you know, I'm all for redemption and all, but dude fucked up royally and barely had any repercussions so far.
Like he basically beat up a woman and got MORE famous: a Vibe cover story, top billing on TV Award Shows, spending the weekend jet-skiing with Diddy. No one in the industry even took a stand against him but Jay-Z.
Dude hasn't suffered, afaik. Give dude a 10-year radio blackout and then maybe I'll listen to his dipshit crocodile tears.
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
No one in the industry even took a stand against him but Jay-Z
really? I didn't hear about this - good on ya Jay
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
you're kind of right, but 'graffiti' is a flop in the context of his career
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah shakey, last year at the BET awards there was a michael jackson tribute, but jay-z threatened to not perform at the awards if chris brown was included in the tribute
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
or so it was said
I agree, I think it is his attitude towards the incident which has put people off as much as the incident itself -- he expected saying sorry to make everything okay, and has acted angry and butthurt ever since when his album didn't do as well as he expected it to. No one is owed record sales.
― ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost A commercial flop, yes, but artists don't make any money on record sales anyway anymore
Also Jay-Z apparently said, “Chris is a walking dead man.”
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
his career will likely be nonexistent w/ in 3-5 years, pre-beating was on track to have an usher-like career
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
his career will likely be nonexistent w/ in 3-5 years
this is true of most r&b/pop stars tbf
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
right, but it's only true for CB because of the beating
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think Chris was ever really gonna be at Usher level, at least not longevity-wise
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean he had a streak of very successful singles, but he was never going to have the highest selling album of the year like Confessions and totally be king of the hill.
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Even though I hated half his songs it's pretty much undeniable that dude was being groomed for supermegastardom; he'd had a successful introduction into the world of black cinema and sold a shit-ton of records and was dating the woman everyone wanted to bone. Basically about the only thing he could have done to fuck everything up was... beat the shit out of her and then wonder why wearing a gaudy necklace that said "OOPS!" in cartoon font pissed people off. Which he did.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah maybe not, but it's wrong to say that his career hasn't suffered at all
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
can we talk about Usher's deal with Satan, btw? like why the hell does everyone love "OMG" THAT much?
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
people like "OMG" THAT much cuz it's indistinguishable from BEP
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
and it's better than any of those singles except for "boom boom pow"
okay crazypants, it is NOT better than any of the BEP singles; it's about on par with the interminable filler on the second half of the album (I don't even remember any of those songs aside from "Ring-A-Ling")
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i like it better than "i'mma be", "meet me halfway" (sublime chorus tho) & "rock your body"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
and "i gotta feeling" but i was never along w/ the consensus on that one so i'll let it ride
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Hold up -- aren't all you guys assuming that Chris Brown himself chose "Man in the Mirror" for the tribute? I'd assume the decision would be more than likely made by a Sony/Jive head honcho, or some BET executive/publicist/team, looking to turn this into an "OMG" zeitgeist talking point moment. I'm not sure that Chris would've had a say in what he performed; dude was more than likely handed a script and told to learn the choreography and roll with it.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I dunno I'm assuming he at least had some input...? who knows
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
He could have said "me singing 'Smooth Criminal' and 'Man in the Mirror' back to back might not be a good idea" at some point and backed out of the whole thing.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not sure that Chris would've had a say in what he performed; dude was more than likely handed a script and told to learn the choreography and roll with it.
doubtful, you don't just tell someone "btw learn all the moves to three iconic michael jackson routines of our choosing".
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah pulling the "he's a pop star, he's probably just following orders" thing is pointless. regardless of whose idea it was to perform "Man In The Mirror," he was aware of the subtext of it all well before he stepped onstage and shed a tear.
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
well tbf I think a large reason why this is still a big problem is because he is completely blind to the subtext of it all
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
how is that even possible...?
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
shakey, may we remind you
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/14/alg_chris-brown.jpg
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.cartoondollemporium.com/dollmakers/dollz258/dollz1.gif
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
O
M
G
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/chosen1234/jay-z-smacks-lady.gif
― blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
wat
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
footage from 1999 that was first widely circulated as a gif in like 2005 -- seriously guys READ YOUR BLOGS
― StanMDH (some dude), Sunday, 11 July 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
ive known abt that for ages -- it was just sorta lol to me ppl giving jay-z dap for his positive attitudes towards women. i mean, u know, im glad he did what he did in that particular circumstance but excuse me for being cynical about dude knowing who currently butters his bread
― blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah and it circulated on youtube on the same HOW DARE HE HATE ON CHRIS BROWN LOOK AT THIS WOMAN HE CLEARLY GAVE A COMPLETELY SIMILAR BEATING TO tip over a year ago
― some dude, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I dun think the fact that he's playing a thug in an upcoming movie is gonna do him favors, regardless of the fact that he was shooting it before the rihanna incident.
― spidermark, Monday, 12 July 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
― some dude, Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
and yet somehow this 'common knowledge' that isnt at all what i was suggesting slipped by me!! how could i have missed related youtubes
― blap...tremendo (deej), Monday, 12 July 2010 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
man fuck chris brown and his whole campaign for reacceptance
― BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Monday, 19 July 2010 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link
so I know everyone hates him now and stuff but "Deuces" is kind of a huge hit, so we should probably talk about it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iJqlhg6TdU
I think it's great song honestly, could actually be my favorite single of his ever. Would be even better without Tyga & Kevin McCall... and I like "No Bullshit" from that mixtape as well. Sticking to the core R&B format is really the only way he'll make a "comeback," Grafitti was garbage (besides "Sing Like Me,"), "Deuces" is exactly what he should be doing(though I guess in the context of him and Rihanna's relationship, the song is kind of gross and those that view everything he does through that lens will continue to view him as an asshole but that's neither here nor there).
― / (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KSfEDDuZfk
again I was never a big fan of his but his R&B joints like this, "sing like me," "take you down," were always his strong suit to me.
― / (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
hate to just repost what i tweeted but:
can't deal with Chris Brown having an uptempo breakup song - "guess me beating your face in was a dealbreaker, lol time to chuck the deuce!"
― some dude, Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I figure that's the reaction a lot of you guys will have to it, which is understandable I guess
― / (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
beat is pretty hot
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
how long ago did chris drop "deuces"
― hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
hey there
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean was "deuces" a hard launch for brown or did it just leak?
― hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
classic comedic posts
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link
lol whiney
― max skim (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 August 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
said it on ILE already, but the best part of Takers is when Chris Brown gets plugged
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 30 August 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of meh on this except for the SAY... BAH BAH... SAY... BAH BAH part
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 August 2010 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link
#1 on r&b now
― / (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 4 September 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
how did no one mention THAT THE ONE DUDE IN THIS SONG MAKES A MENTION TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT BETWEEN TWO MEGA-FAMOUS BLACK POP STARS THAT HAPPENED IN A VEHICLE
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 September 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i seriously almost drove off the road
say bah bah
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
why come Jay-Z hasn't whooped his ass yet
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Thx for the Takers spoiler.
― commonly referred to as Olde E ,Olde Executioner, Dat Ol' 8hundo and 8-Ba (Eazy), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
lol believe me knowing that little trinket won't do anythin to spoil the movie, the movie itself will probably do more to do that. I liked it but there's some dumb stuff in it.
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'll be going in with low expectations, but L.A. crime thrillers are like McNuggets to me.
― commonly referred to as Olde E ,Olde Executioner, Dat Ol' 8hundo and 8-Ba (Eazy), Monday, 6 September 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, September 6, 2010 2:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha holy shit, never noticed that because i usually change the station and/or black out in a rage when Tyga says "valentimes"
― some dude, Monday, 6 September 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
hahah
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 September 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
o yah the tyga part is a click out for sureyoung money poisoning the track for potential listening: CYANIDE
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 September 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i might be angrier about Tyga having a career in 2010 than i am about Chris Brown having a career in 2010
― some dude, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i want to go back in time to 2008 and warn a younger, overly confident me that i shouldn't be so sure we've seen the last of the guy from Gym Class Heroes and his little cousin
― some dude, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
don't forget to invest heavy in apple, short BP and kill glenn beck while you're at it
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
might wanna drop a call to CB as well and have him get some anger management
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think i ever payed much attention to the production on "forever" until it came on just now, and damn, i know i hated on it when it came out, i mean the tune is still kinda dippy and it's certainly not if cb has lost any of his offputting d-baggy quality since this dropped, but damn, this song is kind of brilliant?
― rock n roll individual (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link
it's amazing
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i think my main problem with it is it sounds just a bit too prom-ready. it has the same kind of ersatz score-the-moment quality that "i gotta feeling" and "empire state of mind" have. all of those songs are simultaneously brilliant and terrible.
― rock n roll individual (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I came around to "Forever" after like a year too, still things I dislike about it but it definitely is one of the really good beats Polow's done since his output started to decline
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
"Forever" is decent enough; I don't hate it but I don't love it (partially because Ne-Yo's "Closer" is much more my platonic ideal when it comes to R&B house)
― STOP DREAMING ABOUT HORSES, THIS IS REAL LIFE (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
oh for certain
― rock n roll individual (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
They should've given his character some chance to show off his parkour skills before he pulls them out of nowhere.
― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, they have that fancy little club; all they needed to do was have Chris Brown go from the VIP floor to the ground floor by, like, sliding down the banister and doing a little flip.
― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
am i the only one kinda weirded out by how the thing that's been on the radio in the past year that "deuces" sounds most like is "rude boy"?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link
well this is quite the co-sign huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeXff7G85wI
― waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
drake + t.i. + kanye + fab + 3000
― waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
this beat is really awesome
hahaha wtf is this kanye verse
lol every verse on this is pretty much a trainwreck
cheers
― waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
indeed.
(with the possible exception of tip's verse, which is nothing special but at least not outright embarrassing like some of the others)
― swvl, Friday, 1 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
big ups to jay-z for actually trying to end this dude's career instead of resucitate it
― mod future admin gang ban them all (The Reverend), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
this song is fucking horrible why does anyone listen to this guy
― crude interloper of a once august profession (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
some people just wanna support a brother who smacks women
― THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR (HI DERE), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
can't believe this thread has less replies than Pitchfork Reviews Reviews
― some o))) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
you are surprised that ILM would rather spend more time talking about an annoying, ignorable white dude than any black dude?
― THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR (HI DERE), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
like seriously, how long have you been posting here?
high-five for that post
― some o))) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/
ship i love you for this
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
and ha your scores in general have been brutal lately, hope everything is ok
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, i love you for the entire singles jukebox website, ugh - http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2799
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
lol my scoring average has been pretty low as of late but my curmudgeonly criticism never seems to have anything to do with anything else going on w/ me -- plus i write about 5 singles i love every month but only 1 or 2 out of those 5 tend to get covered on Jukebox too
― algernod shiplies (some dude), Sunday, 3 October 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
FUCK THIS DUDE.
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, 8 November 2010 07:57 (thirteen years ago) link
FUCK THIS DUDE
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, 8 November 2010 08:22 (thirteen years ago) link
what did he do now?
― s&m: sex and masturbating (The Brainwasher), Monday, 8 November 2010 08:24 (thirteen years ago) link
yea why u mad
― J0rdan S., Monday, 8 November 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
just tired of fucking hearing him. mad he still has a career.
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, 8 November 2010 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
FUCK CHRIS BROWN.
― princess tamtam swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
his presence in the rej3ctz video is mad annoying
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
^^yes
also the comments in this article are kind of lol mostly sad http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2010/12/was_2010_the_be_7.php
(rich is otm of course)
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
zania 1 hour agoPlease seek the lord. I feel bad for the person who wrote this article. So much hate its a sin. Seems like you are angry that a young black man was able to correct his mistakes and come back and do good. Chris has God in his life and you need to seek the lord.
Jasmine 1 hour agothis is worst article i ever read....you can sit and beat on yourself all you want Chris Brown is back and he is here to stay...stay madNext time before you write a post about Chris do your research for example you forgot he is nominated for 3 grammys.....
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
chris brown fans really love to tout his grammy nominations
"You know what shocked the shit out of me? The Chris Brown renaissance that occurred this year."
Not to get all Kreskin, but "shocked the shit". Wow.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
it actually did look for a while there that he was really not going to recover commercially from the whole incident
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
he probably hasn't all told, but still
yeah I literally LOL'd at "please seek the lord."
― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
A friend of mine got death threats from Chris Brown fans once for a piece she wrote
― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
DIDN'T YOU KNOW HE WAS NOMINATED FOR GRAMMY'S
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
lol when was this
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
when, as rich notes in his article, chris brown took to the internet to beg his fans to pay attention to him
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
& anyway the singles of 'graffiti' were by far the least successful of his career, then the "deuces" thing happened & now...
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
file this one under the "songs u know are bad but you kinda like anyway" thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yXim1oU6iI
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xp yeah, i remember a LOT of industry people being like "he's toast, disposable guy anyway really"couldn't pull for his live show for awhile but i hear that's really changedi credit BET with being the organization that did the most to rehab chris brown; they push him on 106 and Park nonstop and they kept having him on awards shows and talk shows to tell HIS SIDE OF THE STORY
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
deuces feels like it was the turning point tho, yah
um wasn't said incident THIS YEAR? the year the same article posits as being Chris Brown's big comeback year? wtf
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
first half of this year: not comeback year yetDeuces released in june
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
so it looked like his career was over this year - except it isn't. also are those interviews before or after the whole BET MJ tribute thing...?
this guy's career was never over. he released a shitty album that no one bought/liked, but that's hardly unusual (as evidenced by ALL THE OTHER albums that tanked that are referenced in the article)
xp
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Xxjess Alfordxx 4 hours agoYour horrible! Chris has worked so hard and al's people can do is hate? And who are you to write a massive article full of negativity towards him? The past Comments have been completely agreeable.And you are a horrible person for writing such a negative article! Chris turned to God for help and this is Lord's work. You should be prasing him
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Rav Chopra 3 hours agoLMFAO, I beg you shit in your hands and jump off a building.Chris Brown fans will never let him down, we're going to support him wether people like it or not. Haters, ima throw my dueces up to you I swear down. Hate is a disease, Get well soon mother fucker (:People just want to move on from that incident, having you post things like this ain't gonna make no shit better. It's like why you people alive anyway when all you can do is just hate?Mayn Chris Brown is better than you will ever be, He can sing better than you ever can, He can rap better then you ever can and he's a much better person now. ONE MiSTAKE! JUST ONE GOD DAMMNED MiSTAKE. Mayn I bet you've made thousands of those.On the other hand, you can't make people hate Chris Brown no more. He's back wether you like it or not you can't do no shit bout that. Breezy fans ain't ever gon' stop supporting.#TEAMBREEZY ALL DAY EVERYDAY
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the corollary of "you need to be fucking mental to still be a fan of chris brown" being "chris brown fans are fucking mental"
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
SARAH 2 hours agoTo the ASSWHOLE that wrote this article you forgot the mention:
Chris also currently has a hit song YEAH 3X sitting at #22 and climbing on BillBoard Top 100 with no promo.Plus serveral hit collaborations that you failed to mention in your stupid ass article.-Jae Millz (Young Money) featuring Chris Brown - Green Goblin
-Bow Wow (Young Money) featuring Chris Brown - Aint Thinking Bout You
-British rapper Chipmunk featuring Chris Brown - Champion
-Diddy Dirty Money featuring Chris Brown - Yesterday
-Jawan Harris featuring Chris Brown - Another Planet
** Chris is also collaborating in the studio with Justin Bieber**
You mad. Stay mad BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello 1 hour agoWtf is wrong with you??? Chris has been doing GOOD this year. He is Grammy nominated, and it has NOTHING to do with pity. This article was so hateful and nasty that I couldn't even get through it. You are a horrible writer. If you don't like somebody then shut the fuck up and don't waste your time hating on them. Chris is a talented artist and you're just a hateful asshole. Rihanna has moved on and Chris is trying to do the same without stupid fucks like you writing shit like this. You obviously need a damned life!!!
Oh and by the way, Chris is taking responsibility for his actions. Judge Schnegg praised him on how well he's been doing at making up for his mistake, and that he's taken full responsibility. Do your research asshole. Get a life.
And another thing:If you don't like Chris so much than why the hell did you listen to Graffiti? So you could hate? But that's okay, you contributed to his record sales. Dumbass...
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
knowing the name of chris brown's judge is some intense stannery, jesus
one of these days someone is gonna have to write a piece about "hating" in rap/r&b circles
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i've been kind of increasingly obsessed with the subject over the last year or two so it might be me
― hey young ppl world (some dude), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
"LMFAO, I beg you shit in your hands and jump off a building."
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
hey remember when you could hate a guy's style or lack of talent or general vapidity or wrongheaded obsessions or character flaws or sins and not be met with "why you hating"?why am i hating? i am hating because i hate you and what you represent. the suggestion that i am envious and am venting by spouting sour grape on you is fucking crazyi just hate you and your actions and what you do
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
hey guys, why are you hating on the idea of "hating"? are just haters or
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
*hates*
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 17, 2010 4:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― hey young ppl world (some dude), Friday, December 17, 2010 4:20 PM (6 hours ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_snKYAMkMUnE/SK3VKZtWLSI/AAAAAAAAAFI/p48oB55e3NM/s400/Noooooo.jpg
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 December 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lol aw kells
― hey young ppl world (some dude), Saturday, 18 December 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
naw, for real i would like to read that because that whole line of defense is stupid and frustrating and needs to be deconstructed
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
dude no, lol
i mean i don't want to get too in-my-world-of-young-ppl here but the "hating" thing is not a measured "line of defense" meant for serious discussions and obv not specific to r&b/rap circles - it's just a "thing young ppl say" irl. if at some point respected critics start to employ "hating" as a serious debate tactic then that's one thing; i'm not so sure the world needs a takedown of a colloquialism used by anonymous internet r&b fans at this point.
i respect matos as a writer of course but he tried this sort of thing about a year ago i think and after reading that my reaction was like "lol, have you ever talked to anyone under 30?"
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 December 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link
this shit is so bizarre
Steezdoll_nena 8 hours agoand Chris does not seek pity, the only person that does that is Rihanna that has to mention the incident whenever she tries to see an album or concert tickets. Chris is doing GREAT with NO PROMO. Deuces is off a mixtape and was number 1 on urban charts for 10 weeks and still gets tons of airplay. Rihanna pretty much had to cancel her US tour because no one wants to see her shitty ass performances, while you put Chris in a lineup and the concert sells out in a week or 2. he has 3 grammy nominations for his own songs while the only way Rihanna is will ever be nominated is on someone else's song. whoever wrote this shit is a truly bitter person, get a life, go to church, it is a sin to not forgive, and its worse that you can't forgive someone you don't even know. like seriously how can you harbor so much hate towards someone you don't even know who is correcting his life & doing a damn good job at it? please go seek help, you need Jesus
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 December 2010 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link
are his only fans jesus freaks?
his stans in this comments section reeeeeally love to use the word "bashing"
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 December 2010 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link
breezybaby 7 hours agowho ever wrote this article is just a sad pathetic person!People like you are named haters!half the things said in this article didnt even make sence! if chris's song deuces was tuneless why was it nuber one for 10weeks?????this is one stupid article... the person who wrote it must be retarded..at the end of the day.. chris is multi-talented and your nothing! get a life you sad piece of sh*T..get back up is the perfect song for you.. listen to the lyrics and get some sence.. everyone deserves to be forgiven! where all human!..chris is featured in alot of peoples albums coz not only chris's fans know he is talented so do other artists..if you dont like chris brown.. why take the time out to listen to his tracks?.. someone has got a bit of an obsession to write a whole article on him and listen to his music.. get a job! do something constructive.. FREAK!!..chris's career aint going anywhere so keep your stupid menaingless opinions to yourself.. haha
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 December 2010 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Carol Booker 1 hour agou obviously just want some attention for this sad blog, and what better way to get it than to beat a dead horse (i'm sure you'll find a joke in there somewhere, so cliche.) end of the day, nothing you are saying will change a thing. Chris will continue to be a great entertainer and his career will grow, because of his fans.
the whole christian redemption angle being exposed itt is the first thing that's made me understand how the hell cb has pulled this shit off
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link
god damn i hate the black church
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 08:36 (thirteen years ago) link
^^perceptive. oh god, christianity.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 December 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
and the worst thing is he hasn't even had to make this an explicit part of his narrative. there's this whole major portion of his target audience that is culturally predisposed to accept this bullshit, even if the appeal isn't put into plain speach.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link
this totally jibes with the fact that the ppl i know who have been most eager to reaccept chris brown from his rightful pariah status have all been deep into the black church.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:55 AM (8 hours ago)
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 December 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
the idea of redemption isn't one I like to discount but Chris Brown hasn't really done a lot to appear apologetic for his actions. You shouldn't just get forgiveness by proxy, but well there's that dreaded New Testament that so many read....
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Saturday, 18 December 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
if he were apologetic you would think that he would maybe think twice about releasing "deuces" with the lyrics it had. i liked it before i actually listened to the lyrics. the ike & tina line left my jaw hanging. sad thing is that i've seen ppl on the interwebs defend him/the song by saying "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WERE YOU THERE?" smh @ crazy stans, you'd think he was some american idol runner up or something
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I used to sit at a cubicle between two women (one a friend, one an annoying gossip spreader twat) who chatted endlessly on celebrities and stuff, and the annoying woman claimed that Rihanna hit Chris first and Chris hit back in 'self-defense'. was so disgusted.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
wish i could find the video for this, it was kind of amazinghttp://thechrisbrownblog.com/tag/chris-brown-wins-fandemonium-award/
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Chris Brown...won BET's Fandemonium Award. He said that he "couldn't never do none of this without my fans" and made sure to shout out "Team Breezy," the internet warriors who have stuck by him through his public scrutiny. He also said, "I let y'all down before but I won't do it again, I promise you."it was even more awkward than this makes it sound
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
this whole attitude (not cepeda's obv) makes me so angry:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-04-01/music/another-love-tko-teens-grapple-with-rihanna-vs-chris-brown/
― The Reverend, Sunday, 19 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
chris had a big day on twitter today
this should about sum it up
chrisbrownI'm not homophobic! He's just disrespectful!!!3 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
― a snooki and a killer (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
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― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
@razb2k when I need tips on how to demolish my career I'll call ya!!!!!
@chrisbrown I luv how u resort 2 disrespectful low brow tactics when u clearly sabotaged ur own career by beating women!
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
when I need tips on how to demolish my girlfriend I'll call ya!!!!!
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ "you're gay" being chris brown's comeback for "you beat a girl"
bunch of geniuses these guys
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i want to pay the director of Takers for any leftover alternate footage of Chris Brown getting blown away and create an entire movie using just those clips...
― yelawolfenstein (San Te), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
even CB's new singles that are all over the radio have these weird little outbursts of defensive aggression...like he's singing a slow jam about sex and starts going "don't be on that bullshit, girl" or he's singing about partying and kinda outta nowhere shouts "tell him shut the fuck up!"
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
after the incident, I had to wonder if he had been leaving subtle clues all along in "Take You Down"......
― yelawolfenstein (San Te), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
# BTW... i love all my gay fans and this immature act is not targeted at you!!!! love about 6 hours ago via web
# RAZBFACT: he can braid a niggaz hair with his toes!!!!! C'mon son about 6 hours ago via web
# @razb2k you have a lower back tattoo that says "different strokes" about 6 hours ago via web
# @razb2k merry christmas.i just gave you 20 thousand more followers.. u shouldve did this first instead of telling the world you got raped. about 7 hours ago via web
# YOUR NAME IS @RICKYROMANCE HOW GANGSTA IS THAT!!!!.... PEANUT HEAD ASS !!!! about 7 hours ago via web
# This argument lasted longer than your career @razb2k about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k when you fart it whistle #walnutbandit about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k ur a x backup singer!!!!! What do u make? Like $1.99 an hour about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k it's funny how I'm nominated for 3 grAmmys off of a mixtape and ur scrambling for change!! about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k when I need tips on how to demolish my career I'll call ya!!!!! about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# I ain't deleting my tweet either!! I was minding my damn business and Peter pan decides to pop off!!! # whatalame about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Tell me this @razb2k!! Why when the money was coming in u won't complaining about getting butplugged! #homothug!!! about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k nigga you want attention! Grow up nigga!!! Dick in da booty ass lil boy about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
http://a2.twimg.com/profile_background_images/186742913/chris-brown-05.jpg <-brown's twitter pic background
― it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link
gentleman is CLASSY
― it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link
and here i was thinking i was the one who just wouldnt shut up
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link
forks: it was a pic of mj when this was going down. he just changed it
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 December 2010 07:43 (thirteen years ago) link
going crazy on twitter... does this mean Chris Brown is gonna release the MBDTF of 2011!!!!!
― dayo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 07:48 (thirteen years ago) link
probably
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 December 2010 07:52 (thirteen years ago) link
my beautiful dark fisted tragedy
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 08:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i probably shouldn't ask what "walnut bandit" means, huh
― it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
this dude is pretty much determined to shit on anyone that hoped he might have been redeemable huh? :-/
― plax (ico), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
he just punches people, doesn't actually shit on them afaik
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG that picture
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
From TMZ:
"As we previously reported, Brown had recently posted a photo of his diploma from his court-ordered anger management program."
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Chris Brown now has 3 singles out that I tend to leave on and enjoy when they come on the radio ("Yeah 3X," "No Bullshit" and "Look At Me Now"). this is really difficult for me to accept.
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
oh god and "Look At Me Now" was produced by Diplo too? ugh
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
"yeah 3x" is pretty good -- "no bullshit" & "look at me now" have pretty good production
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
"no bullshit" is one of the best singles of the year so far \(o_O)/
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah "No Bullshit" is aight entirely because of the production -- it's really annoying and awkward to hear so many bleeped words on a radio slow jam
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's true
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
so glad this guy's career is over. *whew*
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:51 PM Bookmark
Cooties, I tell you.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I like this song (produced by Benny Benassi lol):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l9JX5p6hBk
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if i have any sort of duty to actively seek out these four apparently-good songs or whether i can just carry on trying to pretend this dude's career is over
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think you're really missing anything must-hear, i'm just saying that since those songs are all on the radio here I've had to come to grips with enjoying them as pieces of music
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
guys quick jacking the Chris Brown thread to talk about the musician, this thread is for discussion about the Canadian singer-songwriter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown_(Canadian_singer)
― pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i checked the first 30 secs of "beautiful people" to check he hadn't stolen the nina sky track of the same name. he hadn't, though theirs is a way superior 4x4 trancey track. OBV.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
That's prob my least favorite song on their ep tbh.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
"yeah 3x" is the laziest title for a song in recent memory right?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean i know he couldn't name it "yeah", but seriously
even "yeah (yeah yeah)" or something would've been better
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
no "Yeah 3X" is totally a better title than any of the alternatives
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i53.tinypic.com/16k5r1i.jpg
music video for "Look at Me Now"
Chris Brown, Doc Brown, and Lil Wayne go back in time a few years to prevent "some unfortunate things" from ever happening is what I'm guessing the video's plot is.
― Cunga, Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
those guys are almost too excited
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Chris Brown rapping sounds uncannily like Jermaine Dupri
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i really kinda can't stand him on that song
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
as great as it is
like, one of my absolute least favorite devices that rappers picked up on in the past few years (mostly wayne) is the whole "oops, i didn't mean to say that thing i just said in my planned out rap verse!" & he has that whole like two bar riff on oops my dick & it's just... no
busta & wayne save it tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link
the "oops" thing is totally Wayne's fault
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i hope he realizes he's to blame for that terrible trend and has something more to say than "oops"
i like the wayne verse on that song a lot -- the "i don't eat sushi" line & "my dad's gay" punchline are kind of a throwback to a few years ago when wayne was legitimately silly in a charming & funny way & not in an overwrought and eye-rolling way
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link
also if wayne wanted some double time nonsense on the third verse of "six foot seven foot" he could've at least called up busta
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Earliest I can think of is Bun B, c. 1999
Big southern rap impresarioComing straight up out the black barrioMakes a mil up off a sorry hoNow sit back and peep my scenarioOops, my bad, that's my scenarioNo, I can't fuck a scary hoNow every time, every place, everywhere we goHos start pointing, they say there he go.etc.
But Wayne's use is certainly more frequent and lazy.
― Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah lots of earlier uses of "oops" in rap (my favorite being "Bitties In The BK Lounge") but i mean as an oft-used technique Wayne's to blame
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yep i really like "look at me now" although the first time i heard it i couldn't even remember that chris brown was on it, he is waaay overshadowed by the others
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 17 February 2011 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_J2kj4-9XBZk/SlNzwG_eI4I/AAAAAAAAAhU/_7EjVar6bJY/s400/oopsWM+(2).jpg i said "on my dick"
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 17 February 2011 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, also ;_;
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
oh good
― You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Michaelthats so funny. Your name is Pedro and you call Chris a creep? FYI he has over 7 singles and over 4 are in radio circulation now. I'm glad he admits his part in the situation even if she won't. Even though he was a teenager @ the time he showed great bravery in his actions after the incident. Eat it!
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
why does he brag about some chick waxing her pubic hair off
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds like the 52-week domestic violence program worked then
― The north-east's Number 2 children's party magician (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 March 2011 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link
What a piece of shit
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Chris Brown and his passionate defenders can hop in a space shuttle and fly into the sun
― hold my breathless i wish go dead (San Te), Monday, 14 March 2011 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rapper_chris_brown_freaks_out_after_r6BDLMvzaid4O8ZYNvqkEI#ixzz1HL7VbfTA
so then
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
gotta love that two minutes of questioning counts as enough of a perceived assault for him to go completely off
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
"rapper chris brown"
the questions were puffballs that totally could have been responded to with the usual "i regret what happened, but I'm moving forward" too, assuming he didn't then note his album means "Forgive All My Enemies"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
i guess now he's seen how his fans and the industry will stick with him beyond either rational belief or morals, he feels he can just pull any shit and he'll be fine
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Step 1: When asked about Rihanna, just note you're trying to move forward, sound apologetic rather than offendedStep 2: Stick with "Fans Are My Everything," don't bring up the hatersStep 3: Do not shriek, break a window, stare down a producer and rip off your shirt before leaving the studio
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
my favorite is "all I've been through" i.e. the things I had to go through after I beat up a woman - I'm sure it was a headache, all he's "been through," but there was an easy way to avoid all those trials and tribulations i.e. don't beat up women
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
His anger management classes or whatever don't appear to have been very successful.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
haha what a stupid tattoo
how come he hasn't collaborated with Drake yet, maybe the self-involved vortex of smug would crush them both
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
my favorite is "all I've been through" i.e. the things I had to go through after I beat up a woman
this was also amazing
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Michael Richards: "my new comedy piece is about all the stuff I went through, you know, just the trials I went through after my racism went supernova onstage"
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
I understand that Chris Brown is a dude with some problems, but I think that instead of babying the shit out of him and buying all of his music because of his vacant dough-boy stare and his ability to imitate Michael Jackson's dancing, maybe someone should take him out of the spotlight and try helping him.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
"My new album means Kids, Realize All Men Entertain Racism"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
lmao
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
maybe someone should take him out
could've ended sentence there imho
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
lol Shakey
you are reliable as the sun and I appreciate you for it
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
comparing drake to chris brown is very unfair to drake on many levels
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
dying @ shakey btw
i would love to have been around chris brown's management today
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
hold up, does Shakey not like Chris Brown b/c he abused a woman? on the other thread i thought Shakey's been all "no personal doings and thoughts can come between an artist and his art!!!!!!!!!"
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
keep that bullshit in your stupid thread
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
is it weird/wrong that i see an incident like this one w/ chris brown & read it as a very intense expression of deep, deep shame?
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
ilxor do you really think that is a contradiction
― just sayin, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
idk about weird but i'm not getting any vibe of shame at all xp
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
#armchairpsychology idk i feel like someone who really didn't feel shamed would be able to just go thru the motions of "i'm past that point" without flipping out and throwing a chair thru a window
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it's not like he gets hounded by rihanna questions, from what i can tell
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
"guilt" may well be a factor, but considering how many examples of a stunning persecution complex he's offered, it makes a little more sense to associate this with that.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
I would never argue otherwise!
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
whoa wait, you are trying to keep bullshit OUT of a CHRIS BROWN thread? loooool
not necessarily-- but i'd like to hear shakey's take on it
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
I don't like Chris Brown because he sucks. I make jokes about him because I have a sense of humor. that is all.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
now we're talkin
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
mostly my interest in this thread was originally piqued by various people predicting that his Rihanna-beating would be a career ender, which I emphatically disagreed with (and have been proven right about, I might add). I don't really give a shit about Chris Brown's actual work. I think the only thing of his I've sat through for any length of time was that BET performance, my "review" of which is upthread.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
this many posts and nobody made a "ws window" comment?
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
for the record, i kinda have given up on this guy after deuceshe's off my team on madden
Who hasn't ripped their shirt off and run out into the street tho
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
if CB had attacked robin roberts would that have ended his career?
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
it would have begun my permanent o_O face
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
If Chris Brown just starts shouting "tiger blood" and "winning," can we all just laugh this off as some hilarious joke?
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Just?
didn't think i'd see someone come in here and parrot chris brown's actual argument
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
wait, what was his actual argument
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
that we put up with charlie sheen's "things" but why not chris brown's
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
uh Charlie Sheen actually SHOT his wife fwiw
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
also I'm not sure how much Charlie Sheen is being "tolerated" considering he lost his job, custody of his children, and most people are just laughing at him, not approving of him
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Chris Brown, it must be said, is a stupid motherfucker.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
I was actually trying to make the opposite of Chris Brown's argument. They're both assholes and should both be shunned.
xxp Yeah and he's crying all the way to the bank after selling millions of dollars in tickets for his live shows. At, with, it's all the same when the checks get cashed.
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
market sez: Charlie Sheen, more entertaining performer than Chris Brown
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
xp: in fairness, those millions of dollars will go straight into drugs and prostitutes so it's not like Sheen himself is setting himself up for an extended future or anything
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah and he's crying all the way to the bank after selling millions of dollars in tickets for his live shows
wait maybe I misunderstood - was this in reference to Brown or Sheen (is Sheen doing "live shows"? this is news to me)
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Sheen is, and they sold out so quickly he added more.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Here you go, Shakey: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-16/entertainment/charlie.sheen_1_charlie-sheen-half-men-warlock?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
chris should have just accused Robin of being glib
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
time for the old william tell routine
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/CHRISBROWNHULK
― Andy K, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
ME NEXT ALBUM CALLED F.A.M.E. FIGHTING AND MAIMING ENEMIES #TEAMBREEZY #FAMENUMBER1about 23 hours ago via web
A+ would lol again
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
if CB had attacked dee barnes would that have ended his career?
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
yesterday I heard a radio DJ accidentally pronounce the title of his new album as "F.E.M.A." -- seemed appropriate
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
Isn't Chris Brown also crying all the way to the bank?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
well not so much "crying" as "breaking windows and showing off terrible tattoos", but yes
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
his new Sisqo hairdo is hilarious
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
especially since it seems entirely half-assed, like he did it himself in the dark
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/b/brown_chris_timeline_032311/chris_brown_abc_week_11.jpg
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
he doesnt look very cool...
― ♞/♘ (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
still confused at how ridiculously supportive BET has been for Brown... there's GOT to be some sort of financial connection there (above and beyond exploiting talent)
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
not really surprising, black radio has been just as forgiving/supportive for presumably the same reasons
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
guys, sometimes it is as simple as "skin color"
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
Still disappointed Jay-Z didn't have him exiled.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
xp i'm kinda lost at the concept that, having "paid penance", Brown thinks he's not obliged to address this issue ever again. it's reminiscent of the "... but you fuck ONE hedgehog" joke
and really? you think as long as he's black he gets the unconditional support of the black community regardless of his destructive and abusive behavior? well then what about umwaittrying to think of a black celebrity whose horrible behavior has lost them the support of the black communityumno, he's still okay tooin prison but okaystill making recordsgoing to court but okayumwell maybe if he were gay? or the president?
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
hypothesis: if chris brown was the gay president THEN he would lose the support of BET
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
the closest you're going to get is OJ and look how long that took
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, he was my "in prison but okay" actually.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
i think it's not just race but also genre and music. BET and urban radio are very much driven by a young female audience that treat every moderately talented male R&B singer like the greatest star the world has ever known (and don't listen as much to the more pop-leaning Rihanna).
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
"but also genre and gender," i meant to say.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
i think people would be far more willing to let him "move on" if he had exhibited any convincing shame or remorse at any point, rather than constantly trying to minimise the severity of what he did and throwing his toys out of the pram whenever he's called on his bs.
the industry's support of him is depressing but the fact that he still has an army of loyal, hysterical teenage girl fans just makes me so uncomfortable. wtf are they thinking?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
xp see i dunno about that because there's a lot of easily disposable figures who are arguably or inarguably more talented than brown but just haven't had the staying power or are as likely to be hotly contested as "indispensible".... dude gets more BET love than say Lloyd or even Ne-Yo really
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
the weird thing about his continued career is that, when he was first disgraced, i thought that would be pretty much it - he's really a very disposable artist, only his dance skills stand out - it'd be so easy to just move on to the next vaguely cute, sexy male w/teen appeal who can sing and dance a bit - i guess that's what happened to trey songz to an extent. but there was nothing irreplaceable about chris brown
ha xp
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
the army of teenage fangirls is, i'm afraid, a sort of weird hormonally unbalanced manifestation of the Twilight effect where actual sex and long term relationships are unthinkable but "he hurts me because he loves me" is much more accessible and personal
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
That's because he can be seen as being persecuted, and the mothering instict kicks in for these 15-25 year olds. xp
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that he still has an army of loyal, hysterical teenage girl fans just makes me so uncomfortable. wtf are they thinking?
basically i want, like, a really strong adult feminist to sit down with each of these girls and give them some #realtalk
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
and i still love brown's heavily produced goofy club songs when he does them right; there's just been a dearth of them lately.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
aretha franklin's #realtalk, sundays at nine pm EST on OWN
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not denying that there isn't a significant financial motivator behind promoting him, but there are a whole host of external factors/pressures on "the black community" at large that causes sheltering even the most obviously despicable person, usually coming from the twin impulses of "the rest of the world is beating this person down, someone needs to offer support" and "divided we are easier to conquer" that you really can't ignore.
Although conversely Justin Timberlake exposed a woman on live national television and somehow everyone managed to blame her, so it is certainly more complicated than just "it's race, stupid"; just don't sleep on how large a factor that actually is.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
it's race then gender then class stupid, except when it's in the opposite order.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I still can't figure out how Janet's the one who takes the sole blame for that one. xp
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:45 AM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
Ne-Yo's fanbase is older and broader (i.e. less breathlessly loyal tweens), Lloyd was never as big a star. CB's first two albums were massive, like the teenybopper equivalent of Usher's Confessions.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
i'm trying to think of a black female celebrity who's been similarly disgraced - do remy ma and lil kim still have the support of the black community in the main? not the best parallels i admit
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
That's because he can be seen as being persecuted, and the mothering instict kicks in for these 15-25 year olds.
^^^this is so OTFM. befuddled that people - particularly pop radio fans - don't get this. the narrative is everything. Chris Brown's beating Rihanna makes him MORE marketable, because it makes him controversial. duh.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
it's so weird to me that any "blame" or furore came out of that total non-incident
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
you could argue that no one ever actually cared about Remy Ma
I don't know how well Lil Kim's next album would do but I think the only people who out-and-out despise her are uncritical Nicki Minaj stans.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
Chris Brown's beating Rihanna makes him MORE marketable, because it makes him controversial.
i would totally get this if he had a certain image to start with - but he was seen as such a goody-two-shoes type, beating rihanna should have completely ruptured that. and he hasn't really been going for a particularly bad-boy image on record since.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
well usher proved easily disposable for awhile! i know you're looking for an apple for apple comparison, but I dunno if it's that straightforward even. I remember speaking with some big promoters and radio people right around the time this story first broke and they were adamant that the kid was finished, they were boycotting his music, he wasn't going to get bookings yadda yadda.Somebody or several somebodys in the industry had to have stepped up and said that they weren't gonna give up on him; this is not a grass-roots led revival.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
disgraced black female celebrity that comes to mind is lil kim maybe? more because of the surgeries than anything else tho
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
his 2 latest big radio hits were a straight up rap song and a curse-filled sexy slow jam called "No Bullshit"
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
also lil kim was never exactly respectable in the first place - from the surgeries to the jail time, all of her "disgrace" was pretty much in character - no one who ever liked her in the first place could have been put off that much by them
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
why are we even talking about rappers who committed crimes against non-famous people, it's always gonna be total apples/oranges
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:55 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
i hate to sound impressed by Team Breezy or anything, but "Deuces" became a #1 R&B hit off a mixtape with afaict no real major label support. his fans are psychotic and stupid but their movement is pretty grassroots.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
also you guys have to remember that god really loves chris brown so that probably has something to do w/ his songs being super popular again
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the beating brought several factors together to guarantee his logevity - 1) the trainwreck/controversy angle, guaranteeing that he would get headlines no matter what he did 2) the "circle the wagons" reflex of the black community, 3) the "persecution complex" of his teengirl fanbase, which eats this "you just don't UNDERSTAND!"-type of shit up with a spoon.
this all seems really blatantly obvious and predictable to me.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah he basically just transitioned from being the cute member of a boy band to 'the dangerous, troubled one' with the tattoos and weird hair
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
I get the protectionist instict from his young female fans—it's biological—but the way Rihanna got painted as having brought it on herself by some people made my stomach turn.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
totally
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqwKhim7K-Q
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
I think another angle that contributed to this Chris Brown fiasco is black nationalism. When the Chris Brown/Rihanna fiasco came out, I heard and saw a lot of anti-Caribbean talk coming out of a lot of black American's mouths. Chris Brown is seen as "one of us" meaning he is a good ole southern black boy who is misunderstood and trying to do right. Even though in his music and public appearances that $#%^ hasn't shown any humility at all.
Rihanna is the exotic, Caribbean girl who "has to be unstable because all Caribbean girls are" so black Americans just can not believe she is totally innocent. Since she is "not one of us" she has to be evil and deceiving.
Also side note:
Yeah, I still can't figure out how Janet's the one who takes the sole blame for that one.
If somebody (and I basically mean the USA) thinks the concept of "blame" had to be inserted in that Janet/Justin incident, then it basically shows we are afraid/hate black women's bodies as a whole. It was just a fucking breast.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
dunno if i'd ever even considered that level of xenophobia playing into this ugliness, not sure how much I can take that to heart but i'm in the sovereign country of NYC where the pot melts a bit more than elsewhere so
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
I get the protectionist instict from his young female fans—it's biological—...
How is this biological? My sister stop being a fan when the incident happened. So not all black women are predisposed to defend black men when they do wrong.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
NYC doesn't equal the world
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
i think you read race into the "biological" comment that wasn't actually there
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
I'd be fine with breasts of all colors on network tv on a regular basis, but the morality police find it sinful and titillating (pun intended).
What would the story have been like if Justin had just walked up to her backstage or out at a restaurant and ripped her top off? He'd take all the blame (and probably go to jail), but since it was her setpiece at the Super Bowl and had the appearance of being a choreographed stunt, she becomes the villain. (I still don't know what was supposed to happen as opposed to what actually happened, but why the hell was Justin grabbing at her boob anyway?)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
Ok not all women defend men when they do wrong. Happy now.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
"NYC doesn't equal the world"yah, that was exactly my point
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
The mothering instict I spoke of earlier was clearly a generality. Does not apply in all situations to all women.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Well I'm just highlighting the fact that NYC is an exception when it comes to black ethnicities co-mingling. In a lot of other areas, prejudice and stereotypes are more prevalent.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
(I still don't know what was supposed to happen as opposed to what actually happened, but why the hell was Justin grabbing at her boob anyway?)
he was supposed to sing "gonna have you naked by the end of this song" and then remove a tear-away section of her custom-made outfit, is what was supposed to happen
― lol kudso (sic), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:30 AM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
I don't believe there is such thing as a "mothering instinct." I think it's more of a environmental thing if anything. If a woman is around an environment where being a mother is a prime role in society then she would be "mothering." If she is not, she probably wouldn't have that "instinct" for a male.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
lilsoul: yah, that's my point! I'm saying that I don't necessarily buy that argument but i'm conceding that my environment likely plays a role in that perception.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
I don't believe there is such thing as a "mothering instinct."
Well, that's a bad name for it. There's an innate imperative to nurture in most young women, though...which leads to the "I can make him change" mentality which leads to asshole alpha-males exploiting that for as long as they can until women finally wake up after a certain time (most do, some don't).
I hate speaking in generalities, though, because I KNOW this isn't innate behavior in every woman. But it's a significant enough portion of all women to make it notable.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Funny enough I heard this argument from the rapradar founder/former XXL writer from New York City.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
tbf, my environment is also a pretty drastically different one from the guy who made rapradar
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
wait forks isn't yn?
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
have been following baseball at all, because all of this pops up there, including on New York teams
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Next up: Dancing with the Stars.
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
Enjoying @CHRISBROWNHULK on Twitter very much.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
when i was a junior in hs i worked a summer w/ inner city youth & the black american kids treated the haitian kids really terribly -- kids will be kids etc but i have to imagine that it's a top-down thing
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
I never encountered it until college; it was really eye-opening/disheartening.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't come to nyc until I was 25 and had been in a pretty much monochrome/hetero/bible belt environment prior, so all that stuff flew over my head no doubt cuz HOLY SHIT THAT GUY IS SMOKING A JOINT IN PUBLIC AND THAT GUY IS KISSING A GUY AND THEY'RE SELLING NUTS IN THE STREETS AND THAT GUY'S DREADS ARE DOWN TO HIS KNEES GOSH THE BUILDINGS SURE AM TALL
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
were you born in pleasantville
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
i imagine forks gazing in wonderment at tall buildings p much every day
― so fly zone (D-40), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
I gaze at tall buildings in wonderment on a daily basis tbh
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
looks like teenage girls still love him: hits daily double are saying that he's going to get his first #1 album this week with sales of 250-275K (the 2nd largest of the year so far). :/
― prolego, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
& that's much higher than rihanna sold first week with loud that only opened with 205K.
― prolego, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 6, 2009 12:49 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark
*ahem*
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
"were you born in pleasantville"http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=2410859&boardid=77&threadid=86142
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
congratulations, you were correct about people embracing an asshole
http://techpatio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cookie_law_eu.gif
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
It goes - rise to stardom>>triumph>>fall from grace>>redemption/comeback
the redemption is usually accompanied by a lot more contrition and atonement than this :/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
btw can I just
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
so wish he would get an OOOPS face tattoo
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
this is good http://www.bet.com/news/celebrities/2011/03/23/the-problem-with-chris-brown.html
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 March 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:19 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark
wow didn't know that abt chris's past. i was also annoyed by how there's been no real contrition and can't listen to his new stuff without feeling creeped out. but... i do feel for him too.
― no fear, Thursday, 24 March 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if he would have got this enraged and peacocky if instead of robin roberts it had been a male interviewer asking him these questions.
― estela, Thursday, 24 March 2011 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
chris brown's head looks like a dirty tennis ball
― dayo, Thursday, 24 March 2011 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
jsmooth995 OTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFOZ3dcNucY
― Andy K, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
i would pay money to watch someone make chris brown watch that
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
that dude tends to be on point
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
"i don't get it. why did he compare me to the guy from 'the hangover'?"
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
otm, but kinda sick of fred-style 1000000-edit youtube videos
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
Just a side bit of info from a friend:
"I just want to say that this guy is SHOCKINGLY DUMB — like, can't-speak-in-complete-sentences dumb. When I edited his interviews at MTV I was consistently amazed by his sub-third-grade vocabulary. I mean, he would get verb tenses wrong...he would seriously say things like, "I getted new beats from him" and "I runned to the studio." For real."
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 March 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
His mom's twitter was a real eye opener
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 March 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/mombreezy/status/50625645839007744
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 March 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
know yall r prob talking abt serious stuff but i just want to say wtf is up w/dudes current look
http://grab.by/9FC7
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
still the best one:
http://streetknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/picture-78.png
― prolego, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
surely a fake twitter :o
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
i mean SURELY
although it would...explain a lot
its real, and dont call me shirley
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
is the guy in that video up there white, or is he like... light-skinned
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
why don't you message him on youtube and ask him your irrelevant question? I doubt anyone here is an expert on his genetic background.
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
whoa chill, just wonderin out loud... yeesh...
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
I just felt uncomfy with the overtone of your question. Like, would knowing that bit of info. help you understand what he was saying more? Would you be able to sleep tonight if you knew?
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Friday, 25 March 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
haha i have seen that guy before and wondered the same thing, p sure hes wite
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
Kookaburra 3:37 pm on March 3, 2010 | # | Reply
Jay Smooth is black?
I guess that shows some of my own White Privilege – I automatically assume anyone who does not fit into any of my preconceived “slots” for race defaults to “white” automatically.
from here http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/05/jay-smooth-throat-chops-rand-pauls-weasel-technique but i cant find what its referring to
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
sry its from here http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/02/jay-smooth-on-why-we-should-ignore-john-mayer-2
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
Jay Smooth: Those were always issues that were central to my identity, growing up the son of a Black dad and a white mom, with parents who were very politically engaged and very conscious of those issues.
http://feministing.com/2010/08/21/the-feministing-five-jay-smooth
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
its cool everyone i figured it out, we can all relax now
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
it is kind of a weird thing to ask imo. also jay smooth has posted here at least a couple times iirc.
― some dude, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
thanks velko
― who is john nult? (dayo), Friday, 25 March 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
*bows*
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really know anything about velko so i don't get that joke. can you tell me more about velko, and perhaps also his/her racial makeup?
― some dude, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
thanks cr?master
Would you be able to sleep tonight if you knew?
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:49 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
maybe!!!! i dunno, i thought Ernie Johnson was black for years, so when i found out he was white, i really had to reassess everything... its a sensitive topic for me... anyway its not like theres anything left to say about Chris Brown..
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Friday, 25 March 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
velko is white and good at researchin yr life iirc
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiPRvizGSME
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Friday, 25 March 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
oh ok so you're velko. i thought i was velko and i had no idea why.
― some dude, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
you are the biggest white nerd in the history of civilization lmao
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
u r gershy iirc xp
; )
― buzza, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know much about gershy either, what is gershy's race?
― some dude, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
black white green or purple he is a true ilxor
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
his religion is revivalism.
― estela, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
buzza wrote this on thread crazy chinese mother on board I Love Everything on Jan 11, 2011
my mom is chinese
― buzza, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
universe collapses in on itself
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
buzza lies
― ENBB, Friday, 25 March 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
this is right on btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1XlVhahZyM
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 March 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
oh what a sensible take zzzzzzz
― ice cr?m, Friday, 25 March 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
stfu
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 25 March 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
seriously 'omg he has edits in his videos and he is actually considered in his opinions zzzz' fuck all of you
dawg what
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 March 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
sick of entire earth atm brb
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 25 March 2011 06:15 (twelve years ago) link
damn did something happen at your DJ thing :-(
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 March 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
hahah nah dude thats not even til next weekend
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 25 March 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, March 25, 2011 2:11 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol he shows great passion for the work of nate dogg his own explainingness
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
btw chris brown dances in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWZwLCKyR1Q
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62G-di-LFUs
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
― ice cr?m, Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:49 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
some things i wrote abt the radio in general/chris brown in particular on my tumblz th'other day:
— "Make a Movie" is kind of old but I think I missed it up until now because, duh, I haven’t really gone out of my way to listen to Chris Brown songs. Surprisingly, despite a chorus containing the lines “I’ma throw a couple thousand, baby, strip for this” and “You see what I’m workin’ with, I’ma break your back with this”, it is the less-troubling of the two Breezy songs — questions of taste aside, the sex-tape thing is basically just here to serve as the metaphorical scaffolding for one of those goofy high-concept sex jams R.Kelly perfected, which I think are essentially harmless except that they might give little kids some weird ideas about the prevalence of freakiness in the adult world. But hey, consenting adults, etc etc — Twista even offers to edit out anything you’re not comfortable with, which seems like the right attitude.— … "Look At Me Now", on the other hand, grosses me out a lot more because A.)it feels like a conscious effort to rehabilitate Brown’s damaged rep, B.)I actually kind of like it. It’s astonishing how well the formal structure of the song works to this end: on first listen, the hook sounds lifeless and plodding, and Brown’s voice grates on me; then Busta Rhymes drops in for about 90 seconds of relentless verbal assault, and by the next “Look at me now!”, I’m just happy for a chance to catch my breath. Repeat the process with a decent but unmemorable Lil Wayne verse about telling off haters, and laugh all the way to the bank.
— … "Look At Me Now", on the other hand, grosses me out a lot more because A.)it feels like a conscious effort to rehabilitate Brown’s damaged rep, B.)I actually kind of like it. It’s astonishing how well the formal structure of the song works to this end: on first listen, the hook sounds lifeless and plodding, and Brown’s voice grates on me; then Busta Rhymes drops in for about 90 seconds of relentless verbal assault, and by the next “Look at me now!”, I’m just happy for a chance to catch my breath. Repeat the process with a decent but unmemorable Lil Wayne verse about telling off haters, and laugh all the way to the bank.
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
how exactly is "Look At Me Now" any more a conscious effort to rehabilitate Brown’s damaged rep than any of his other giant hit songs over the past year?
― NO BLOGS WERE INVOLVED. (some dude), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't say it "is" more of one, just that it "feels" like more of one. I mean, the hook is literally just him saying "look at me now" — who is he addressing here? 'now' as opposed to ...?
but then also: bringing in hi-profile guest rappers to, basically, rap really fast and be like "hey Breezy's cool with me" — the way the whole thing is driven by the opposition between these exhausting fast-rapping parts, and the lazy laid-back hook — it feels like an attempt to achieve some distance from, or containment of, the Chris Brown 'brand'
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
the hook isn't just "look at me now," it's also "I'm gettin' paper" and "fresher than a motherfucker." it just seems too generic a sentiment to fit into any meta narrative. and he's had other hits with rappers in the last year.
― NO BLOGS WERE INVOLVED. (some dude), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
the problem with Chris Brown's attempt to rehabilitate his image is that he sort of thinks he's entitled to forgiveness and thinks it is an automatic thing, like he doesn't have to show contrition or appropriate remorse...or as discussed above, he turns the situation around to make it about him.
I don't know him personally, but I wouldn't be surprised if the typical Chris Brown apology goes "I'm sorry, BUT..."
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
xpost right, and it's that very genericness (along with, I guess, inability to rap?) that's being played up here! like, bring some crazy-sounding dudes on the track, let them cut loose — there, doesn't Chris Brown seem nice and comforting by comparison?
I'm not saying this is a clever scheme somebody deliberately concocted; just that it hits me like that and makes me feel kinda gross. but then I also thought Jennifer Hudson was God taking over my radio in order to chastise me with "Where You At?", so maybe take my radio opinions with a grain of salt
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:52 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i know him personally and he is beautiful at apologizing -@mombreezy
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
I bet the first person CB talked to after the Rihanna fight, he was showing off his little marks and bruises and going "look what she did to me!"
― NO BLOGS WERE INVOLVED. (some dude), Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
she hurt my fist ma --chris brown
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
― NO BLOGS WERE INVOLVED. (some dude), Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:30 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah i get this feeling too
― horseshoe, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
stifled lol
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
there are apparently people who have suggested Rihanna hit CB first, and thus the beating was 'warranted'.
I suggest those people drink cyanide lemonade.
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, 26 March 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
they could always test the plausibility of the hypothesis by hitting him themselves and seeing how he reacts
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
I am very game for this experiment. In fact I would like to participate.
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
My bro was saying it's easy for ppl to forgive chris brown cuz beating women plays in the macho narrative of the hip-hoppers he's aligning himself with.
I promptly told him he was offtm and that beating women is been long considered a sucker move by hiphop (cf. "Posse On Broadway" et al).
But then he asked why everyone is so quick to forgive chris brown and I didn't have an answer.
This is all a long way of saying, why is #teambreezy so quick to forgive chris brown?
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
Like seriously dude still has an enormo fanbase? Why exactly isn't everyone telling him to fuck himself?
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
money?
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
wait do you mean fans or artists
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
Cuz Rihanna ain't Tina Turner and Chris is cuter than Ike
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
Fans
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
they liked him before and still like him now. maybe are also in denial. just really want there to be a big popular male R&B act? idk man
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
or they don't think of Rihanna as a real person
Fans do generally let musicians off the hook for heinous things, I mean, Vince Neil got Hanoi Rocks guy killed and fans stuck by him.
Fans use the overplayed and reductive "He made a mistake, he's human" trope too.
― check out my malady (San Te), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
it's the music, man
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
not that he's done anything worth touting in a minute
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
i've absolutely loved him on at least 3 tracks the past year, plus another i think i'm forgetting
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, 26 March 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
you're being pretty kind to hip hop based on one sir mix a lot lyric whiney.
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 March 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
What's more relevant? Mix a lot or biggies verse on get money?
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 March 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
whiney you should read this thread where ppl like lilsoulbrother outline why the black community & also young black girls have been so quick to forgive chris brown
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 March 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
astonishing how whiney can blunder into a thread and go WHUH WHAT WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND after like 50 posts discussing exactly that
― lex pretend, Saturday, 26 March 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
Short answer: Didn't read whole thread
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 March 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
ASTONISHING
try it!
― lex pretend, Saturday, 26 March 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to read Lilsoulbros post but last 50 posts have been miccio lols at cb's mom iirc
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 March 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
I don't have Internet today and have been reading it on my phone. Someone link me
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 March 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
CHRIS BROWN
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 March 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
let's just go easy on Whiney for now and be ready to remind him about this the next time he goes ballistic on somebody for posting on a thread without being 100% up to speed in, oh, two days.
― NO BLOGS WERE INVOLVED. (some dude), Sunday, 27 March 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
point taken
― ★ INXS ★ What You Need ★ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 March 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/10-horrible-things-chris-brown-fans-said-to-robin
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, his publicist dropped him
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
did she not hear he paid his debts?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2011/3/23/14/enhanced-buzz-20397-1300906662-26.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n)
― buzza, Sunday, 27 March 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
I turned on SNL last night, saw Chris Brown mugging at the camera in one of the quick asides they do during commercial breaks, then turned off SNL.
― 'lol u stuck with me now watch this ass expand, joeks on u' (DJP), Sunday, 27 March 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
say what you want but the man was born to mug
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
and lisp
― check out my malady (San Te), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
and not read
― corkslovetoscrew (some dude), Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
Suggest Ban PermalinkI think another angle that contributed to this Chris Brown fiasco is black nationalism. When the Chris Brown/Rihanna fiasco came out, I heard and saw a lot of anti-Caribbean talk coming out of a lot of black American's mouths. Chris Brown is seen as "one of us" meaning he is a good ole southern black boy who is misunderstood and trying to do right. Even though in his music and public appearances that $#%^ hasn't shown any humility at all.Rihanna is the exotic, Caribbean girl who "has to be unstable because all Caribbean girls are" so black Americans just can not believe she is totally innocent. Since she is "not one of us" she has to be evil and deceiving.
This is probably why I support Amanda Knox, to be honest.
― i have a hot bagel waiting for me in my bed so ill say this: (kkvgz), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/IMG_0184.jpg
― dayo, Sunday, 3 April 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
don't worry Chris, Rosie's got yr back!
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
"he's a victim too" dontcha know
not really clear on who's victimized him, myself
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
his dad beat him iirc
― timbo slice (D-40), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
may just have beat his mom in front of him, i dont remember
"it is not a simple discussion – layers n layers."^ but brown seems bent on playing the heel here
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
I can understand why fellow psycho celebs would be sympathetic to guy, but they don't seem to grasp that the kid needs HELP more than he needs people to shower him with praise and ignore his self-pity/violence.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
Esp since this is a guy who seems to pick high-pressure, high profile moments (the night before the Grammys, backstage of Good Morning America) to go fucking apeshit.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
trying to think about any abusive celeb who totally got their shit together after counseling and drawing a blank
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
so i guess people should just politely ignore their violent episodes, then?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
And I'm guessing abusive celebs who get their shit together tend to fly under the radar better than those who don't
― da croupier, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
xp not my point at all, just musing out loud
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
this guy has like 38 singles on the radio right now
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 April 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn.rap-up.com/images/chris-ipad.jpg
― Oh, Monseur le Fapp, you are really oiling us... (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 April 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
I assume he's planning on beating the winner of the contest with the iPad
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 15 April 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
for stealing his ipad
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 15 April 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
DAT PAD
― Oh, Monseur le Fapp, you are really oiling us... (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 April 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to win a Touch from Omarion?
― da croupier, Friday, 15 April 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
*pulls at uncomfortable collar* tough crowd
― D-40, Friday, 15 April 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
har
― o u mad cuz i'm Kgositsilin' on u (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 April 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
"no bullshit" is incredible, no bullshit
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 April 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
production-wise it's pretty great, can't really co-sign the song as a whole
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
it's pretty much catnip for me as you can imagine. haven't been listening to r&b radio as much as i should
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 April 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
i wouldn't imagine "make you come over and over again...AND I'MA LEAVE IT IN!!" being catnip to anyone but the creepiest #teambreezy fangirl
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
weird to me that tha bizness don't get more work
i still can't 100% deal w/ chris brown singing about adult sex -- i can't tell if that's something with his performances or just personal bias
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
why does this thread get so much more play than most other pop/r&b artists?
― lex pretend, Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
half tabloid nonsense, half chris brown has 38 songs on the radio right now
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
i guess we've escaped the full force of his comeback here then, he's fairly ignorable apart from the occasional tabloid nonsense. idk just cuz someone's on the radio doesn't mean they have to be talked about - the tone of this thread is desultory w/r/t the actual material, is it not worth actively trying to ignore him?
― lex pretend, Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
idk i've liked all the singles off fame
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
are we sure that's not radio stockholm syndrome again, nothing i've heard has warranted a second thought from an artistic perspective, let alone a second listen - and we have enough ushers and taio cruzes making rubbishly average r&b radio pop (who aren't hideous people) already
― lex pretend, Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
well, "no bullshit" is a nice lush r&b song, albeit w/ some creepy overtones as outlined by shiplo -- "no bullshit" is just a great rap song that barely has any traces of chris brown & "yeah 3X" is not exceptional or anything but the part in the chorus where the beat drops out is partic great for a song of its ilk
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
i have no opinion on the new new single
by "no bullshit" i mean "look at me now"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
You should keep second guessing whether people really like things imo. It's a v good look. xps
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 April 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:50 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark
i would like to think that me of all people grudgingly admitting this can be taken as a very difficult moment of truth
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Sunday, 17 April 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
Chris Brown can still die in a fire afaic
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
idk just cuz someone's on the radio doesn't mean they have to be talked about
lexbomb
― All this information makes America phat (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
the quality of the FAME singles has to make you realize how much everyone in the music industry wants him to succeed. tha bizness, diplo, busta, weezy, etc. he's routinely the worst part of these songs.
― zachlyon, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
blazing otm
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
all of this just makes me wish that the industry hadn't sunk all of their money into such a little shit
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
yup
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
well he has had a handful of dope songs post-beating and has been all over the radio like it or not, i kinda wish peeps itt wouldnt be all falling all over themselves and shit to OFFICIALLY DISTANCE THEMSELVES from anything to do with this (admittedly dumbass) 21 year old, it's like we get it deal with it or stfu already
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
only dope song he's had post-beating is "Look at Me Now" and like zach said, he's the worst thing about it
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:05 PM (Yesterday)
hahaha - i just meant wrt its obvious "bed" debt & you know i'm a sucker for any songs that sound like this
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
he hasn't done anything sufficient to stop me continuing to judge him on his behaviour. fair enough if he'd come out with the kind of UNDENIABLY AWESOME MONSTER pop song that you have to give in to in the end, but if his material is just kinda dope or aight or songs you "don't mind" hearing that's really really not enough to cut him slack and pretend everything's okay again
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
that said i haven't heard "look at me now"
nearest he's got to a genuinely great song post-beating that i've heard was "i can transform ya" and once other people started to vocal the beat, there was pretty much no reason to pay attention to chris brown
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
i've absolutely loved "yesterday", "no bullshit", and his hook on "make a movie" and can deal with a few other joints.
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
congrats, you like some horseshit
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Monday, April 18, 2011 12:33 PM (1 minute ago)
yeah i mean you're entitled to your opinion but this is nonsense to me, either his songs are hot or they're not
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
sonned by noted modern r&b fan dan perry
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― Oh, Monseur le Fapp, you are really oiling us... (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 April 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
i was really glad "yesterday" ended up being one of my least favourites on LTTP regardless of how i felt about CB
either his songs are hot or they're not
i guess i'm saying they're not hot enough! yeah, if they were HOT then maybe it'd be time to pay attention to him, but if they're just, like, lukewarm-to-warm? not enough. he should have a lot more to do to get back in anyone's good books.
also it's not like he distinguishes himself for anything he specifically does on his material these days.
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Monday, April 18, 2011 12:32 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark
oh I'm sorry I didn't taken into account the totally imaginary Terius comparison that inevitably existed in your head.
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
maybe you can help me decode the thread where that guy pretended "Ass On The Floor" sounds like "Yamaha"
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
it's worth talking about Chris Brown, Asshole bc there are probably other people who are like me who have guilt pangs every time "look at me now" comes on the radio and the station almost gets switched immediately before going 'noooope not strong enough'
it's omnipresent and tbh a weird listening experience
― more fish for kunta (zachlyon), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
weird thread
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 April 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
― zachlyon, Monday, April 18, 2011 12:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
idk i like a lot of chris brown singles but i'm failing to think of one where he isn't "the worst part" of the song. he's almost always been a function of the song itself, and he's happened to have been on a lot of good ones
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 April 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
back when he was younger the youthfulness of his voice did help carry some songs ("yo", "no air", "with you") but it's not like any other young singer couldn't have pulled those off, so idk
tbf, he only had like 3 good songs pre-beating
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
i liked more than that
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 April 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Monday, April 18, 2011 1:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkmaybe you can help me decode the thread where that guy pretended "Ass On The Floor" sounds like "Yamaha"
― steendriving is very bad - but I got a fake ID though! (some dude), Monday, April 18, 2011 1:02 PM (1 hour ago)
dude chill i'm talking about the mood, production, and vocal cadence more than anything else, damn why you mad
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
aggro in baltimore
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 April 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Monday, April 18, 2011 2:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
"obvious debt" though?
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i should have said "similarity" instaed of "debt" - even i'm not deluded enough to think songwriters are out there studying ways to ape all of my favorite terius slow jams
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's all good (although i still don't really hear any link more specific than "midtempo male sung R&B songs about sex").
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
it's those big soft-but-booming drum sounds, but i'd put those more in debt to ciara than terius
― goole, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
"No Bullshit" drums don't sound remotely like Los OR Polow "Promise" style imo
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
not even remotely?
― goole, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
ok yes, remotely
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
the drums yeah, but there's something about the tempo & structure of the song that is reminiscent of "bed" imo
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
remotely
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
ppl are actually fucking with "look at me now"?
― estkella (k3vin k.), Thursday, 5 May 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
One of the best radio hits of the year
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if Jermaine Dupri remixed it just to capitalize on the fact that Chris Brown sounds exactly like him when he raps (Da Brat's verse on that = best thing to ever happen to this song btw)
― some dude, Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
busta's verse is nice but the rest of that song is a mess. wtf at that bop-it! production
― estkella (k3vin k.), Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
Beat is cool! Lmao at "bop-it! production" tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
predictably the phrase "bop-it! production" is actually making me want to hear this
― Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
It was produced in some part by diplo
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
According to Afrojack, the song is the product of a beat he passed along to Diplo, telling Akshay Bhansali of MTV News that "Diplo called me. And he was like, 'We are in the studio right now, and we are gonna do a track on the beat.' And I was like, 'OK, whatever. Have fun'."
for some reason when Diplo matches a beat with an artist he gets a production credit instead of an A&R credit
― some dude, Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol I did try to listen to this before and bailed before the chorus
I keep forgetting that I love Busta, there is too much music in this world
― Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah I never quite understood that -- I just assumed that there was some unspoken of tinkering by diplo that earned him the credit
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's a good track once you get past CB's contributionbusta's so fun.Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3A9Biseb4s
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 May 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
i do like that beat
― geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Thursday, 5 May 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
beat is ass, if it wasn't for busta's somewhat overrated verse this would be a straight up goose egg
― the buttonmasher, the party crasher, the forget-my-lotion skin rasher (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 May 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
im gettin paperrR?
actually wayne's verse is much better than busta's let me take that back. i never actually make it to the end of this song
― the buttonmasher, the party crasher, the forget-my-lotion skin rasher (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 May 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
not a fan of the "little tunechi" schtick
― Stone Colde Sylke Freek (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 May 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
what dont u like about the beat? seems perfectly unique / competent to me
― geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Friday, 6 May 2011 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, beat is great. I would totally f/w this song if not for CB.
― 3.5" flopson (The Reverend), Friday, 6 May 2011 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
the beat under the verses is good but that synth whine on the chorus kinda sucks
― Tuom Sawyer and Fuckababy Finn (some dude), Friday, 6 May 2011 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
it's very cheap-sounding, and all the space puts me off for some reason - the sounds just don't feel like they belong together. and like i said the bop-it! effects are corny
― the buttonmasher, the party crasher, the forget-my-lotion skin rasher (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 May 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
this beat is dope but yeah, CB
― a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Friday, 6 May 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link
I think the first time I played that I only made it 15 seconds in because I was also trying to watch the video
― Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 6 May 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
haah
― 3.5" flopson (The Reverend), Friday, 6 May 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
The beat feels really early to mid-2000s. It needs a little hop or skip, since that one bass note gives it no lilt.
― paulhw, Saturday, 7 May 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
The beat feels really early to mid-2000s.
This is a good thing.
― al b. surly! (The Reverend), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
it does? what's its lineage?
seriously can't believe ppl are feeling this cheap ass beat!! no joke i thought my friend made it when he first showed me the song a few months ago
― the buttonmasher, the party crasher, the forget-my-lotion skin rasher (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it does have kind of a 'kid gets some new software and sees how retarded a beat he can make' vibe to it
― ORIGINAL DUDE (some dude), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol rap always seems to have an appetite for this kind of sparse beat w/ weird sounds type production
― a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
hey don't you go dissing a-rab xp
― a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe I'm just thinking this cause I was just listening to his mixtape (power of suggestion and all that), but it kinda sounds like like Mr. Collipark's sparser moments? Really I just think it's a bit of a throwback in that it sounds like a fun rap song with crossover appeal that isn't all MOR-ified or tranced out tho.
― al b. surly! (The Reverend), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
More mid-late 00s than early-mid.
― al b. surly! (The Reverend), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
You just can't put anything past fans on Twitter.
On Saturday, fans of Rihanna were shocked to find that not only was her ex-boyfriend Chris Brown following her on Twitter, but she was following him back. And they were not happy to see their favorite singer showing any signs of reconciliation with her abusive ex, even if was only on a social media site…
One fan actually called Rihanna out on the follow, tweeting at her: " I never thought you would go back to him! You better not, it's your life but you do have (people) that look up to you. e.g. young girls."
The 23 year-old "S&M" singer didn't take too kindly to the idea that Twitter follows meant getting back together with Brown, so she responded to the fan: "its fu--in twitter, not the altar! calm down."
The fan (a 14-year-old girl) then quickly apologized to Rihanna for upsetting her and was rewarded with an apologetic tweet from her idol: "babygirl I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt or offend u! Just needed to make it clear to the (fans)…xoxo"
Do you think it's a bad idea for her and Chris Brown to follow each other on Twitter? Or do you agree with Rihanna and think it's harmless?
― buzza, Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
I think I'd need to see a full list of who she follows and who follows her to make an informed decision.
― Mark, Sunday, 15 May 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
loll
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 May 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
I think she needs to be a little less confrontational with the people who spend money to fund her karaoke-stripper career.
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Monday, 16 May 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
How do you manage to maintain such concentrated acidic douchery so regularly?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 May 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Sunday, May 15, 2011 9:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
i'm sure she's very nice to l.a. reid
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
anyway that post just leaves me wondering if anyone has ever combined a strip club & karaoke bar & if not how much start up money such a place would require
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.sapphirelasvegas.com/sapphire_las_vegas_blog/tag/stripper-karaoke/
― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 May 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
i should've known
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, well...you got me there buddy. ZING-TO-THE-MAX!
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Monday, 16 May 2011 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
Take our PollChris Brown and Rihanna following each other on Twitter
Do you think it's appropriate for Chris Brown and Rihanna to be following each other on Twitter after what happened? Yes, it's been two years and they've moved on No, she needs to be a role model for her young fans As long as they don't meet up in real life, who cares
― buzza, Monday, 16 May 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:26 PM Bookmark
I got told this weekend (twice, by completely different people) about a place like this in Portland.
― please banhammer, don't hurt 'em (The Reverend), Monday, 16 May 2011 08:15 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like "rihanna called me babydoll" is something you can put on a resume
― more fish for kunta (zachlyon), Monday, 16 May 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
*babygirl
Round one to HOOS
― starland vocal banned (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlA3p_3oojU&feature=player_embedded
Chris Brown's Polka album forthcoming just in time for Christmas.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
never change, Chris
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 June 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
i've kind of made peace with the idea that CB is such an unhinged and unrepentant dickhead that no matter how successful he is right now it's all going to catch up with him sooner or later and i may as well just enjoy watching him slowly crash and burn
― some dude, Friday, 24 June 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
might be awhile - I'd say dude has at least another 5 years in him
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 June 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah -- but i mean he's already clearly made a permanent heel turn, he's never gonna go back to being a mr. nice guy who people all pretend never did anything wrong or sketchy
― some dude, Friday, 24 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
which was what i was most wary of when he first started his comeback and was grabbing sympathy crying at the BET Awards etc.
― some dude, Friday, 24 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
some dude looking forward to karmic redemption in 2015 when he's arrested at an airport with three keys
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 June 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
rawbdawwgg 5 days ago
Ridiculous comments about Chris Brown. He is a juvenile songwriter because........he is 22 years old!!! What else is a 22 year old supposed to write about? Chris Brown has so much music in his portfolio in his short 6 years in the music business (I have over 500 songs in my catalogue of Chris Brown music) that unless one has listened to the wide ranging palette of his music, one could not possibly comment on his talents as a songwriter. Apparently, when Mary J. Blige chose his song "Stronger" for her album of the same name, she saw something in his songwriting. Do some research please, or don't comment about things you clearly have little knowledge about!
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:35 (twelve years ago) link
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, November 8, 2010 9:14 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link
why does it matter if he still has a career
― ȣ_ȣ Ȣ_Ȣ ȣ_ȣ Ȣ_Ȣ ȣ_ȣ (absolutely clean glasses), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 08:15 (twelve years ago) link
This song is shit.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 7 July 2011 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
I am more offended by this song than anything Chris Brown has ever done.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 7 July 2011 08:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljkmazsZ4y1qctlf5.png
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Rev thank you for sharing this pic. Trudeau should run it in place of Doonesbury this week.
― AWeAreVEV0 (Spectrist), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
man i always thought he said "my daddy's gay"
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
srs lolz @ stick weezy
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
putting chris brown in gloves that evoke a boxer was a really good idea
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2011/07/Chris-Brown-Today-Show-05-1310746989.jpg
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
man, that looks like the worst party down episode
― davon cuul II (m bison), Friday, 15 July 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
everything about him is stupid
― Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
Gigantic, novelty pyramid studs of violence! Golden safety pins of aggression!
I don't like this guy either, but dude you're reaching on this one. And that pink bow tie and derp face aren't exactly screaming "I beat bitches up!"
― Spinspin Sugah, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
he looks like a boxer
it wasn't my wardrobe decision
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 July 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the kinda weird pimp formalwear look is totally "dress up" boxer clothes imo, like i bet bernard hopkins wears vests and shit
― van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
(minus the safety pins and bowtie)
What about that outfit says "pimp formalwear"? Just wondering outloud, but if a Jonas brother or a Bieber wore the same thing....yadayadayada
― Spinspin Sugah, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
the only thing that says "pimp formalwear" about that outfit is the pink bowtie; if that vest was teal we would be "in business" (so to speak)
― Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:37 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark
i agree that it kinda sounds like that but you seriously weren't walking around believing that was the actual lyric were you!? that's even weirder than referring to brass knuckles as 'gloves'
― some dude, Saturday, 16 July 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
okay
first of all, i thought it was completely plausible that he was calling his dad "gay" as an insult. i wasn't walking around thinking he had just dropped some deep biographical "my momma kissin a girl" info
two, he's wearing gloves, not brass knuckles
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 July 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
brass knuckles would be way worse btw!!! if you look at his right hand you can see that the studs cover his whole hand
also i originally thought he was wearing brass knuckles!! http://twitter.com/#!/jordansarge/status/91944593192521728
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 July 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
it's hard to tell from the angle of the photo, but you have clearly studied this photo longer than me so i will defer to you
― some dude, Saturday, 16 July 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/mombreezy/status/98925922228506625
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
mombreezy!!
― Tim F, Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
mombreezy is really unbelievable
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 August 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha ha ha ha
― a fan of the juiceman (tpp), Sunday, 7 August 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.ommas.com/post/9244828707http://www.ommas.com/post/9244828707http://www.ommas.com/post/9244828707http://www.ommas.com/post/9244828707http://www.ommas.com/post/9244828707http://www.ommas.com/post/9244828707
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Monday, 22 August 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
oh fuck yes
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
srs
― steens furiously (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Excellent.
― Nite Crump (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
not praiseworthy imho
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
like I probably woulda lolled at it if I had seen it live, and I still basically "agree" with it, but watching that video after seeing all these ppl praising it made me legitimately uncomfortable
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
well then you kinda need to rethink yr priorities here imo - this is an unrepentant dickhead who can just soak up how much everybody hates his ass now, when he decides to grow up it'll stop
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
aero did you watch the video
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
do you really think those people were laughing out of sympathy for rihanna
because to me it kinda comes across as: Keith Olbermann - Dubya + Chris Brown + gallery of guffawing jackals
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
(I will admit that the gif is much 'better', and if I had seen it before watching the video I woulda been like "yeah right on!")
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjUKwoHUyw
yeahhhhhh the laughing in the background makes it a pretty uncomfortable and the part about the female members of team breezy is problematic but that dude > chris brown
― k3vin k., Monday, 22 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
it's weirder to me that the split-screen initially gives the impression that there's two guys sat next to each other but communicating as if in two different places
(pedantry @ teenage twitter users in the clip above nagl)
― sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I watched the video. Chris Brown's a fucking joke so it's great that people laugh at him, the more the better.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
xpost to kev: yeah, my objection is not at all "leave breevy alone!"—a dude on tumblr put it better than I could:
Kansas City Shuffle; Make a joke about an instance of domestic abuse (look left), and when people are getting angry about your tastelessness declare that the joke was actually an attempt to raise awareness and shame the attacker (hit right).
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
no i know i get you
― k3vin k., Monday, 22 August 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the meagre degree of creepiness is offset by the scornworthiness of the target. also, "a joke about domestic abuse" is an intentional mischaracterization of the dude's joke. dude's joke is "you're a person who hits women." the target of the joke is the domestic abuser - not the same as mocking domestic abuse.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with you 100% that Chris Brown deserves far more scorn than he has thus far received from the media, and that *any* kind of criticism is better than the "pretend-it-didn't-happen, business-as-usual" attitude; and obviously a lot of the public feels that way, too, judging by the response to this meme. I'm just kinda bummed that our public discourse has degenerated to the point where it takes a clown to say these things.
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
i think the vid w/ laughing is uncomfortable, but aero's totally right about how the original joke should be interpreted ... ppl werent getting angry at his 'tastelessness' tumblr dude offtm
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
ftr I didn't realize that there was an actual video that went with that; my reaction is solely based off of the GIF
and tbh I did laugh when reading the GIF, in the sense of "HAHAHA YES SOMEONE IS CALLING CHRIS BROWN ON HIS SHIT IN ABOUT AS CRUEL A MANNER AS CAN BE DONE"
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
xpost I don't see how you can say no one was angry about the joke—otherwise where did the whole 'apology' conceit come from?
as far as I can tell, here's the timeline:
- Chris Brown tweets some dumb shit about planking- comedian Andy Levy sees the opportunity for a good zinger and takes it- TEAM BREEZY rallies to the defense of their imperiled hero; Brown, in a hilarious example of "the only insults I know are the ones people have used against me", calls Levy childish- **HIGHLY SPECULATIVE** some Fox higher-up takes offense and asks Levy to apologize/retract his tweet? **HIGHLY SPECULATIVE**- Levy doubles down w/ this (admittedly, pretty good) rant about the boneheaded obliviousness of Brown (duh) and his contingent of hardcore fans (double-duh)
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
but since we all agree that Chris Brown is awful, really the only thing that interests me about the whole affair is seeing whether or not people feel that being a Chris Brown fan/apologist automatically makes one awful as well
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
his music is not good enough to make me overlook how terrible a person he is and I think less of everyone currently working with him
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
the moment djp lost his respect for biebs
― sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
bernard the ppl asking for him to apologize werent offended by it being 'tasteless' they think that chris brown should be forgiven
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think the #teambreezy twitterers were like, "i cant believe hes making light of abuse!"
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol schlump
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
xposts yeah that's fair—it's like, as much as I enjoy Busta Rhymes's verse on "Look At Me Now" + the comeback it has ignited for him, I can't help wishing he and every other competent rapper contacted by the Breezy camp had gone "no, fuck you, I refuse to get on this track"
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
D-40 otm
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
bernard the ppl asking for him to apologize werent offended by it being 'tasteless' they think that chris brown should be forgiven― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, August 22, 2011 5:17 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, August 22, 2011 5:17 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Aphex Twin... in my vagina... with the revolver? (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
It's p obvious even from the original tweet that he wasn't condoning domestic abuse.
― Meat Loaf...in my vagina? (The Reverend), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
Fox News, like most major news outlets, is chock full of horrible douchebags; this does not automatically mean that every last thing anyone who ever appears on one of their shows has to say is nefariously wrong.
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
Team Breezy is easily the most ignorant and self-deluded pack of cretins on twitter.
― ¯\(°_o)/¯ (Nicole), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
a bold assertion Nicole, it's a crowded field
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
that they have a rolling news ticker, however, means they have an outlet to make sure that every frame of their output is somehow objectionable, even if there's something placid going on mid-screen
― sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
not gonna argue against that
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
It's p obvious even from the original tweet that he wasn't condoning domestic abuse.― Meat Loaf...in my vagina? (The Reverend), Monday, August 22, 2011 5:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
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― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with bernard here, I mean obviously everyone hates Chris Brown - I get it - but Fox news dude was still a giant asshole and the video wasn't very funny
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
I'm Team Aero on this one. No matter how douchey the messenger, anyone that publicly calls out Chris Brown for being the awful human being that he is is straight up hilarious to me.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
really jon? like if some guy doing an interview with Chris Brown decided to go "hey Breezy, I gotta ask you something... I've been having some problems with my girl lately, and I was wondering how much it would cost to have you rough her up a bit for me"—obviously Chris Brown would get really angry/offended and probably storm out of the interview, and a lot of people would lol about it on the internet later; but would we really think that the guy asking the question was some kind of brave crusader riding for justice?
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
the video was awful, the tweet was LMAO
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Oh come on bernard, have fun building yr strawman there. That is obviously not at all what I'm saying.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Someone using a public soapbox to remind the world that Chris Brown is an asshole /= to an imagined face-to-face confrontation urging him to violence.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
xpost well then I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're saying!
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
oh I should specify that I was imagining a live on-air radio interview, I guess that makes a difference
and can we please keep in mind that the dude we are talking about is a COMEDIAN who made a joke about Chris Brown (a couple tweets after "you mean punching?" he responds to Anthony[of Opie & Anthony fame]'s joking accusation that he ripped off another Twitter user's joke with "mine was better")
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure why what I said is difficult to parse, I think its funny (and, you know, kind of necessary considering how little of a hit his career seems to have taken) when someone uses their public outlet to remind the world that he is, in fact, an unrepentant asshole. Thats a whole different situation than sitting down, in person, with Chris Brown and using inflammatory language in the hopes of provoking him.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
the only thing I was trying to convey with my example was that I do not see anything inherently virtuous about using "an unrepentant asshole" to get lols.
I am all for speaking truth to power, but someone needs to go after a slightly-less-easy target than Chris Brown before I will applaud their moral courage.
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
that vid creeped me out so much -- i know his target isn't victims of DV, but he's clearly using the topic as opportunistically as he can, hoisting himself up on a pedestal of immediate respect and agreement by tackling chris brown the easiest target alive. he gains his upper hand by eliciting chuckles about DV, and it's all about him and his rightness and chris brown's wrongness and none of it is about rihanna. like, i have serious trouble believing that he went on air with his rant and actually thought to himself "rihanna would totally dig this!" maybe he's delusional enough to think that she would see him as her white knight and that she would happily thank him for his bravery, but it doesn't take much logic to find it more likely that a victim of DV might not be happy with a random political commentator using her trauma to gain public sympathy points (for himself, not her). he used her story as a hook for a comedy routine, not as an act of compassion.
the fact that this is fox news has nothing to do with it, i would be much more disappointed if it were a decent lib commentator. i'm guessing fox news hasn't really ever taken a stand against chris brown (if he were white, maybe) and let's not fool ourselves into thinking that every single obvious topic is reported contrary to what everyone else would say.
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i definitely believe chris brown should get shunned and ridiculed daily by everyone who might have some sort of influence on the public, but this isn't the way to do it and i'm not about to be on some "eh close enough" shit
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
So we are just basically saying that comedians aren't allowed to call out assholes for being assholes? I mean, that seems to be the common thrust here, that he was using this to "boost his career". If thats so, then I call bullshit. Do we then have to say that TMZ shouldn't stoop to be reporting domestic violence? Because, lets be real here, TMZ isn't reporting this out of some altruistic savior thing, they are trying to generate hits and boost their revenue.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
jon...
there are "good ways" of doing righteous things and there "counterproductive ways" of doing righteous things. what this dude did fell somewhere in the middle. relax
― k3vin k., Monday, 22 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
has anybody called bernard cap'n save-a-breezy yet because dude. who gives a fucking shit. it's chris brown. he's a scumbag. save your incisive commentary for somebody who's worth you expending one fuckin calorie of energy.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
"this guy who's kind of a dick was kind of a dick to chris brown!""—kick ass, this is worthwhile usage of a guy who's kind of a dick"
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
i am saying that comedians should call out assholes with a certain degree of tact if the overall concern is about an extremely sensitive topic, like domestic abuse. especially when the comedian in question is posturing themselves as the voice of the morally righteous. if you are going to pull that shit, doesn't it make sense to try to consider how victims of domestic abuse might take it? and if you honestly think that a decent amount of DV victims are going to pump their fists and shout YOU GO, ADAM LEVY, maybe you shouldn't be allowed to comment on a topic you know nothing about?
i said nothing about boosting his career, though pretty much everything in the media sphere is about career-boosting in a more-than-abstract way. it's about posturing himself as the guy you're supposed to agree with and failing to consider the possibility that he might be doing it wrong, because DV is bad and making fun of a domestic abuser = INSTANT AGREEMENT FROM EVERYONE, YOU ARE EVIL IF YOU DISAGREE, etc
and tmz should not report domestic violence because tmz should not exist
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
in dude's defense, I will say that his comments seem to resonate more and more the further removed they are from the original context (video vs. gif vs. transcript...) — it's like there was a silent majority of people waiting for *someone* to call Chris Brown out in a public forum of some sort, and when it finally happened they didn't even care that it was an uncomfortable comedy bit on a Fox News late-night program
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
aerosmith: i don't think bernard or i give a millionth of a shit about chris brown's feelings
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
and if you honestly think that a decent amount of DV victims are going to pump their fists and shout YOU GO, ADAM LEVY, maybe you shouldn't be allowed to comment on a topic you know nothing about?
When did anyone say this?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
like if Chris Brown had a Thermos and somebody saw that he'd left it unattended and said "this guy farms cock, I'm gonna take a shit in his Thermos," that would not be "constructive." it would not help victims of domestic violence. none of the direct effects of domestic violence in my own life would be in any way mitigated. and yet, I would applaud the guy who crapped in Chris Brown's Thermos, because it's Chris Brown, and now his Thermos smells and tastes like shit.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
"this guy who's kind of a dick was kind of a dick to chris brown!""—kick ass, this is worthwhile usage of a guy who's kind of a dick"― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, August 22, 2011 8:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
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― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
aero man i just dunno. like what good does it do anyone to shit in this guy's thermos?
― dozens, maybe even hundreds, of vagina related screen names (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
lol A++++++++
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
yknow what, i'm gonna back away from this discussion. forget i said anything.
― dozens, maybe even hundreds, of vagina related screen names (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
as a child I had to watch a motherfucker beat up my mom on the regular. I was a child and was helpless to do anything about it. she never fully recovered her humanity from the decade-plus we lived with that fuckin monster. I don't speak on behalf of everybody who bears testimony to the disruptive, destructive, evil power of domestic violence to degrade, dehumanize and fuck up the people it touches. but on behalf of the young underrated a who has spent much of his adult life crawling out from under that fuckin landslide I'm pumping my fist for the dickhead who got in some cheap shots on Chris Brown.
so yeah that is one guy's fuckin vote.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
But not if this guy works for FOX maaaaaan
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
jon: that was part of what i figured was a sensical thought progression, ie adam levy thinks victims of DV will be on his side because he clearly thinks his side is perfect and pure in every way. it was not a response to anything in particular in this thread.
aerosmith: again, whati am saying that making light and trivializing domestic violence is wrong and potentially very hurtful to a huge amount of people (let alone rihanna) no matter who the target is.
if someone comes up to me and tells them about their experience w sexual assault, i am not going to make jokes at the expense of the assaulter, i am going to maybe try for a lick of compassion. and then i would proceed to never, ever try to make someone laugh about their assault.
xp obv
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
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its lol to imagine chris brown accidently eating shit
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
can I put in a bid for somebody to have a "Shit? ...In My Thermos?" dn
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
re: thermos-shitting: I guess my thing is, I feel like vigilante justice and challopy pundits SHOULDN'T EVEN BE NECESSARY to condemn Chris Brown—he is a public figure who fucked up in a super-public way—didn't people used to just naturally get shunned/run out of town on rails/whatever for that? I am both fascinated and troubled by the total failure of the public sphere in this case, and I feel myself no less accountable for this outcome than any other consumer or citizen (obviously individual members of the media/artists/etc bear more or less blame depending on their conduct)
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
yo aero i'm not trying to ignore your experiences or anything, i just know people who are also really unhappy with this and they deserve to at least know that the entire fucking world isn't nodding their head with this one guy
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
if someone comes up to me and tells them about their experience w sexual assault, i am not going to make jokes at the expense of the assaulter
Well, of course not, but afaik that isn't what happened here. Unless I'm missing part of the story where Rihanna came up to Andy Levy and told himt he whole story and he turned right around and immediately made light of it.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
again, whati am saying that making light and trivializing domestic violence is wrong and potentially very hurtful to a huge amount of people (let alone rihanna) no matter who the target is.
we've covered this. capping on the abuser is not "making light of and trivializing domestic violence." in fact, mockery is one of the most powerful responses available to victims. it inverts the abusive dynamic. the idea that if you cap on an abuser, you somehow make light of the abuse - this is absurd. no you don't. you undermine his power and bring him down a peg.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
know that the entire fucking world isn't nodding their head with this one guy
You do know its possible for us to nod our head with what this dude says without expecting that to serve as our whole and entire viewpoint on the entire subject of domestic violence, right?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
i am saying that making light and trivializing coprophagia is wrong and potentially very hurtful to a huge amount of people
― buzza, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
aero otm
― Meat Loaf...in my vagina? (The Reverend), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
jon: when 1 in 4 women experience domestic violence in their lifetimes and you're going to make a huge comedy rant on fox news, you have to assume your voice is reaching many many victims of domestic violence, and at this point i would not be surprised if rihanna herself has seen the vid given its popularity. and then i said "and then i would proceed to never, ever try to make someone laugh about their assault." it doesn't matter how much time has passed, there is no "too soon?" with someone else's trauma
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
we've covered this. capping on the abuser is not "making light of and trivializing domestic violence." in fact, mockery is one of the most powerful responses available to victims. it inverts the abusive dynamic. the idea that if you cap on an abuser, you somehow make light of the abuse - this is absurd. no you don't. you undermine his power and bring him down a peg.― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, August 22, 2011 8:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
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― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
if you are a victim of abuse you of course have every right to joke about whatever you want regarding it.
but as a bystander, i'm never going to make a joke about someone else's trauma in the off chance that they're ok with it. even if they joke about it with me. no way.
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
as far as I can tell this dude's whole angle is to get lols out of Chris Brown's obliviousness
And, yes, this is a totally different thing than getting lols out of the violence itself. Can you see the difference?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
when did i say anything like that?
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
i am talking v specifically about this one instance and how it can affect people, not trying to make blanket statements on how you guys view DV
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
xpost to jon: yes I do, although I actually feel like those lines get blurred a bit in his rant, which is one of my objections. that moment when everyone is laughing as he describes the injuries Rihanna sustained still seems, to me, an awful lot like people laughing about somebody's suffering, even refracted through the prism of "joking about Brown's obliviousness"
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
the tweet was fine, the video was fucked up. i am right, the verdict is in, lock thread
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know, again, just speaking for me, it's even better if the guy making the jokes doesn't even have a horse in the race. like me, of course I'm going to cheer on somebody going in on an abuser. but if the guy going in is just a normal person instead of "one of us," so to speak? that's icing on the cake - it affirms that the outraged feelings of the victim are valid. imo only obv. I'd rather people went too far in the interest of being right on, you know?
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
okay y'all, it's been fun, but I think I'm done with this thread for now. gonna go read some Maldoror, whose litany of misdeeds, set next to Chris Brown's, exposes the latter as a mere tyro in the halls of cruelty, a pathetically sheltered mama's boy whose infamous crimes could be counted on one hand while leaving enough fingers on that hand free to make an offensive gesture
― alright, in a sort of a limited way, for an off-night (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
yo this is where a lot of creepiness comes from for me! i agree that the tweet wasn't so bad. it wasn't until he starts getting gruesome and constantly emphasizing "beating the CRAP out of rihanna" that sort of makes me think that he doesn't have her best interest at heart, cause it sounds like he's just using the image of her injured body to make his point in an edgy and humorous way
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
again dude if i ever met you i would be happy to joke about shitscum like chris brown, but i know way more people who have the opposite reaction
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, I think these last couple of posts sum it up for me here, because I'd only seen the gif and read the transcripts. I can't play the video at work. Seems like the video itself is where the disconnect is coming into play.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
I can concede that point pretty readily zach. I can imagine a lot of people looking at it in that light. for me the brutality being emphasized, even overemphasized, is good, because one strategy of the whole abusive mindset is to call into question the account of the victim - "did he really 'beat her up,' or was it more of a squabble?" etc. so I sometimes think it's good to spell out real plainly what we're talking about when we talk about abuse, lest people stroke their chins and go "hmm well what exactly does 'abuse' mean?" and shit
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 August 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
that's an important point, definitely -- kind of going along with how people tend to respond w disgust (in the wrong way) when a film portrays rape violently rather than overly sexy -- but i still see this andy levy dude as going for chuckles and easy agreement more than making an actual statement about the assault. the constant chuckling in the video is disconcerting bc they're laughing at his specific details of her injuries as much as everything else. and i just can't squint enough to stop seeing it as opportunistic and exploitative.
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
and "making an actual statement about the assault" also refers to making a statement about chris brown's ignorance and entitlement, i know that's more the point.
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
Really, as far as my individual reaction goes, setting aside any larger issues for the moment, I'm happy to see anyone go in on Brown like this because I'm fairly disgusted in general about how this has hardly amounted to more than a speedbump in his career.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
I think the fact that he ends with "the only thing Chris Brown is guilty of is a felony" takes this a little out of the realm of "I am using a famous woman's pain for cheap lols", plus his entire demeanor during the video is not that of a Norm MacDonald yuk yuk lookit how awful what I'm saying is.
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man lets please not bring Norm into this too.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
no that last line is definitely great but it doesn't really lord over the rest of the rant as much as levy seems to think. just bc it's the last line doesn't mean it's the definitive one, and there are more ways to be inconsiderate than to act like norm macdonald who at least doesn't try to build himself up as an arbiter of morality (not to say he's any better)
― Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think Levy is the awful person here; the awful people are the guys sniggering in the background.
And Chris Brown, obv.
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
Guys I'm going to start a kickstarter fund for getting Brad Whitford to shit in a Thermos for Chris Brown.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
man, this is a whole lot of handwringing over a hilarious zing of chris brown
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i know bernard has gone to do other things but:
but as far as I can tell this dude's whole angle is to get lols out of Chris Brown's obliviousness by describing the beating in graphic detail and then being like, "this guy did that, remember? and now he wants to act like it never happened! but it totally did! he beat the shit out of her! isn't this dude crazy?!"
i think there is an aero thing upthread saying 'when the guy grows up this will stop'; it isn't brown's obliviousness or him 'wanting to act like it never happened' that prompts this, it's his repeat, offensive, unrepentant behaviour ever since that makes this fair game. if the guy was making whatever kind of moves one can be expected to humbly make to accept & atone for having done an awful thing then it would be one thing, but afaik he's releasing shitty singles that allude to 'coming out fighting' & wearing knuckle-dusters on stage & flirting with the same kind of thing rather than trying to either address or move past it. and for as long as he's doing that then getting called out on what he did is fair game. i think it's a different thing when you see someone start trashtalking at spitzer or whoever & the guy at least has at least gone through some period of public disavowal & repentance that means he can distance himself from his past (just to disclaim: i don't know shit about spitzer & so maybe this isn't right, but a hypothetical-'reformed'-public-wrongdoer or w/e).
& zachylon: i don't know if it sounds mad insensitive to say that this whole thing shouldn't be seen through the prism of the victims involved, but i don't think it should, entirely, & there would be downsides to restricting public actions in order to limit exposure of a topic (in a way that might be most preferable to those involved). i think a lot of this is about brown and brown after everything that has happened, and if it's a separate issue to be able to call him out on that - which the guy does, re: his smashing up a tv studio & i guess re: the weird dynamics of him and his fans.
― sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
This is a very serious topi...No, no it's not.
― Spinspin Sugah, Monday, 22 August 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
what the fuck is this "wet the bed" shit
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 August 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
probably the creepiest/grossest radio song since twista's "daddy" imo, altho it's much worse than that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 August 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
grosser/creepier than "Daddy" is saying something—you are making me kind of want to hear this, and I don't like it
― and you will know us by the trail of dead... in my vagina? (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
idk i mean, i don't see how "i'm going to make you wet the bed" is supposed to be considered sexy and not incredibly gross?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
& the pic on the sleeve, of him, in his PJs, but wearing a bow-tie, dipping a sleeping girl's hand into a bowl of warm water, is just
― (Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
Wait what?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Like the best part is that Chris Brown has said in interviews that his dad used to beat his ass so bad as a kid that he would wet the bed, so like
― schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
okay really, because if so WAU
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that is true fact iirc
― schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
that's not true
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Fuck you, J0rdan
"It changed me," he said, explaining that his outgoing stage persona is an attempt to overcome the shyness and timidity he felt as a child, which sometimes led to him wetting his bed because he was afraid to get up at night and witness the violence. Brown told Banks that he would talk to his mother about the abuse "all the time," but that "when a woman's in love ... you don't look at it like that."
― schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
very interesting
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
^^ this format of exchange should replace "citation needed" on wikipedia..
― Kerm, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
"It changed me," he said, explaining that his outgoing stage persona is an attempt to overcome the shyness and timidity he felt as a child, which sometimes led to him wetting his bed because he was afraid to get up at night and witness the violence. Brown told Banks that he would talk to his mother about the abuse "all the time," but that "when a woman's in love ... you don't look at it like that." [very interesting]
― *steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Brown told Banks that he would talk to his mother about the abuse "all the time," but that "when a woman's in love ... you don't look at it like that."
I have a great deal to say about the hegemonic ideologies that result in a young man coming to this particular conclusion after growing up in a house where the father beat the mother but I think most of it is already expressed by the phrase "hegemonic ideologies"
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNAJGw6RLr8
smh, this guy..........
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 27 August 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
"J. Valentine feat. Pleasure P & Chris Brown"
*pass*
― markers aurelius (The Reverend), Saturday, 27 August 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
well, gay twitter scandal then?
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
GO ON
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
is it going to end his career
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
probably fake but who cares i'm all for trolling #teambreezy
http://www.thesuperficial.com/chris-brown-gay-sex-martyn-twitter-direct-messages-09-2011
http://www.thesuperficial.com/martyn-confirms-gay-sex-chris-brown-09-2011
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
some of the alleged twitter DMs are hilarious
this is the ultimate screencaps or it didn't happen, right?
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn03.cdn.thesuperficial.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/0929-chris-brown-gay-sex-09-480x480.jpg
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
but you know could be faked i'm sure
chrisbrown: Yeah i enjoyed when u fcked the shit outta me nigga but thats only in the moment, only a stupid nigga would reject an opportunity like that
oh nobody says this
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
no one gets into a fight and says, "now, to be fair, i DID enjoy it when you fucked the shit out of me"
also trey songz!! uh huh
I'm all for clowning Chris Brown but getting all "u gay" is not okay with me
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
well since chris brown would (and has gotten?) get REALLY offended by someone calling him gay, i think it's pretty funny
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
just kinda perpetuates it being okay to use "gay" as an insult. which is lame.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 September 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
I mean he would probably get really offended if someone called him a n***** too, but I wouldn't recommend it
I wouldn't want people calling him a f***** or whatever. like people are gonna do, but I'm glad this revive wasn't about "hey check out the new chris brown song and he has like 5 awesome rappers you admire backing him up!"
― chris "difficult" brown (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 30 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
Am the shit hence F.A.M.
― P-NASTY (tpp), Friday, 30 September 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
E
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Friday, September 30, 2011 4:51 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark
chris brown has said a lot of things you'd otherwise think 'oh nobody says this' about
― some dude, Friday, 30 September 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
if you're gonna make up a sex scandal w/ chris brown, the least you could do is not have him brag about you bring great in bed
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 September 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
tbf i am great in bed tho
― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 October 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
submitted for yr approval:
http://rapindustryfanfiction.tumblr.com/post/10843500632/alternate-universe-chris-brown-fails-to-produce-a-hit
― I would like some lulz from the lulzman's wife's EXCELSIOR (bernard snowy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
i hate you for making me aware of the existence of that
― some dude, Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
:) you're welcome
― I would like some lulz from the lulzman's wife's EXCELSIOR (bernard snowy), Saturday, 1 October 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link
this is basically how I break it down to an extent: dis cat suxx
― kyle2trill, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
now you're just out and out quoting delmar? fuck you, boring-ass sock
― some dude, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^
― dayo, Saturday, 1 October 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
yew all can eat feces milkshakes. fuck you, Sister Souljah
― kyle2trill, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
chrisbrown: U a serious fckin killer song writer nigga i dont even write songs, and great singer. U'll def get another deal soon. But u was a fool.
ok this one is clearly bullshit, i just looked at this martyn person's website and he is a TERRIBLE singer
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean c'mon
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/childplease.png
― Tyler the Creator Knows White People (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
” an opportunity like that” just cracks me up, he makes having gay sex sound like amway or something
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
"you still a nobody except for writing songs for major celebs"
― da croupier, Saturday, 1 October 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
having sex w u is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, i just couldn't pass it up
lol i'd really like to know who these "major celebs" are
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 1 October 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
lovin martyn's tweets about "damage control." great moments in humblebrag yo
― fennel cartwright, Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
chrisbrown: U r the best singer and songwriter how r u not signed. Btw thx 4 fucking my ass, i should've paid 4 the pleasure!
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
that this would be so totally bizarre as a premeditated publicity stunt makes it even funnier imo
― some dude, Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
chrisbrown: No really u r amazing at everything. I couldn't even believe it myself. Btw I'm DMing you about gay sex from my personal twitter account.
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
the random tirade about good morning america is the most believable touch imo
― some dude, Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
lol that was good
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
martynworld: They saying assistant but who knows cuz am really puzzled.
martyn really doesn't seem like the type of dude to have an assistant
also i believe that this was both a premeditated publicity stunt and a true gay sex story. don't understand how ppl are skeptical about CB being a twitter idiot
― fennel cartwright, Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
well obv it's a publicity stunt
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
yes that chris brown is quite the mechanical dummy
― some dude, Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw this suggests heavy shopping
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
admit it, the gays just don't want to claim him
― some dude, Sunday, 2 October 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
i would really hate it if he was gay
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it would be... interesting? or something. idk.
it would explain EVERYTHINGactually it wouldn't at all but i look forward to hearing loads of assholes explain how it would explain EVERYTHING
― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 2 October 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:09 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
major fucking otm
― The Reverend, Sunday, 2 October 2011 08:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/chris-brown-halloween-costume.png
― surm, Friday, 4 November 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Green"banana"man
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 4 November 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/assets_c/2009/12/It%27s-Always-Sunny-in-Philadelphia-FX-Green-Man-320-thumb-320x249-4118.jpg
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 November 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/02/144495440/bin-chris-browns-banner-year-tough-questions-on-abuse
― buzza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
effed up
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
"Obviously she played a part in getting beat, or whatever,"
― buzza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost as if these girls need someone to slap some sense into them
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
*zing
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
He Hit Me (and it felt like a kiss)
― buzza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
this is seriously like the douchiest music video ever made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SUC8vTEYYg
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
kinda agree with you
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
i have a real hard time keeping kevin mccall, kevin gates and kevin cossom straight
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
tbf u r v v pretty btw
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
YOUR HOTTER THAN A SAUNAI WANT TO PEEL THEM CLOTHS OF YOUR BODY LIKE A BANAWNA
― SOPA/PILLA (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
i hope kevin mccall is only on chris brown tracks cuz they're secretly boning
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
has to be the only explanation, really, considering how mccall looks and how he raps
― SOPA/PILLA (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://hellogiggles.com/im-not-okay-with-chris-brown-performing-at-the-grammys-and-im-not-sure-why-you-are
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
I'm usually not much for futile "let's all press like on facebook/not watch a tv show we weren't gonna watch anyway" protests, but after that "sorry we ignored chris brown for two years but he victimized us" quote there is no way in hell i'm watching the grammys tonight
― da croupier, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
all crazy shit will be watched after the fact on shitty non-official youtubes
― da croupier, Sunday, 12 February 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
That's normally what I do with the grammys anyway, but that quote is appalling. It makes me sick thinking about how many people have shrugged his assault off.
― Nicole, Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
that article is right fucking on.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
If people just turned off the TV when Chris Brown came on & didn't turn it back on for five or ten minutes, it'd make a huge difference in how the Grammys think about this stuff in the future. However, the opposite will happen: everybody watches, everybody talks about it. Whether they talk positively or negatively doesn't mean anything; the name of the game is attention & eyeballs. So all the thinkpieces/tweets/etc are a net win for the Grammys & for Chris Brown, imo.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 12 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
If people just turned off the TV when Chris Brown came on & didn't turn it back on for five or ten minutes, it'd make a huge difference in how the Grammys think about this stuff in the future.
if you have a nielsen box
― da croupier, Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
if you don't, however, publicly admonishing the grammys with thinkpieces and tweets is probably your best shot at having any influence
good piece
I feel bad for lol'ing at the Taylor Swift line at the end
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
(partly because whoo-eee if he had beat a white woman you can bet your ass this would not have blown over like it did)
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
Well no shit
Hell, if he had beat a black woman born in the US, he would have gotten more flack than he did
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
I heard Ike Turner on the radio today
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
I guess Ike Turner's career was actually destroyed though
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
Ike Turner's career was not destroyed by his wife-beating tho
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm Not Okay With Hello Giggles Being The Voice Of Reason And I'm Not Sure Why You Are
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
i was just thinking about the ike turner thing - "ike and tina" may be used as a jokey punchline every month or so by every rapper out there, but it's actually because of that that his name has become a byword for domestic violence to me (as someone unfamiliar with his actual music). which seems just, in a way. to have an entire generation associate you not with your music or accomplishments but the fact that you were an abuser.
ugh yes i'd forgotten all the "caribbean women have fiery tempers" talk at the time.
i guess the grammys thing shouldn't be that surprising - even itt there are a ton of people who obviously just want to get back to liking chris brown hits without having to think about what he did or more pertinently how their acceptance is part and parcel of the fundamental disrespect for women that the blog post i linked discusses.
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
also, like, it's 2012. this is similar to the argument i made re: odd future and homophobia. just cuz something was accepted 10 or 20 years ago really doesn't mean it should be accepted now.
and w/r/t the argument that no one should be punished forever for a mistake they make - i agree, and this comment from the blog post sums up my response -
If I am unaware of his humanitarian actions, or large donations toward shelters for women who have to go into hiding because it’s kind of getting hard to walk around with a broken jaw – then someone please, point that out. If he is providing counseling to young men & saying “Hey look what I did that one time, and how out of control things got, and how I am not ever going to be okay with it so this is why you cannot ever let that happen in your life” – then maybe there is something to letting him just movin’ on with his happy little life and career.
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
I know next to nothing about Chris Brown apart from the fact that he beat-up R; is he that big commercially / awesome musically that the Grammies absolutely HAVE to lick his arse? I don't knwo that I've ever heard one of his tunes.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
he is big commercially, yes.
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
not so big that they HAVE to give him awards or let him perform though; i mean he's basically on equal footing with trey songz these days and you didn't see TR on the grammys last night
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys
Lost for words.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
i find those buzzfeed posts to be really shitty
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, buzzfeed's a pretty awful source.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
those tweets are so horrifying i don't want to believe they're real
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Between this and the Unilad thing I suddenly feel v.old and out of touch with young people.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
idk, we've all seen the shitty things that chris brown's tween stans have posted over the past couple of years; the worst thing about those tweets is that they're all too believable.
i blame the parents. where the FUCK are those girls' mothers and fathers?
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
at the shelter; at the bar
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
it's like those girls don't even know what getting punched in the face actually means. I don't know what part of it they don't understand but somehow they don't seem to get it.
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
some of them will learn
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 13 February 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
#sosexy #lovehim
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Monday, 13 February 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, February 13, 2012 4:13 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
afaik this is the closest he's come to community service
http://www.theboombox.com/2009/07/08/chris-brown-sports-300k-oops-chain/
― een, Monday, 13 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
he actually did do community service, but it was like, clearing weeds in horse stables, not anything appropriate or relevant to his crime
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
xp: incredibly guilty lol
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 13 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, January 3, 2012 8:32 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
just saw someone defend chris brown on my fb feed. sigh
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 13 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
i blame the parents. where the FUCK are those girls' mothers and fathers?ftr my little sister WAS one of those people. she even said 'maybe she said something to him' and that wasn't a product of bad parenting so much as just lazy thinking and childish unwillingness to believe this horrible thing about him was true.
anyway my mother & i spoke to her about that thinking and she got it. i would pin it on that factor plus larger societal forces that don't see domestic violence as a serious problem, if they even acknowledge it as one (as with the city officials in Topeka... etc)
― gyac, Monday, 13 February 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/photos/stylus/1646579-chris-brown-grammys-2012-show-617.jpg
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
1 second after that photo was taken, Chris Brown was run down by a backstage golf cart driven by Marilyn Manson.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
― gyac, Monday, February 13, 2012 7:41 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a heartening post in a chris brown thread :)
(yeah i agree that girls who think those things don't nec have bad parents; it's so depressing to think about how that shit gets ingrained in girls who aren't lucky enough to have a mother or sister (or father, brother etc) to sit them down and tell them what's up though)
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
CB looks like he's in pain in that photo :)
I would lol if they gave him an electrified Grammy
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
This is just all kinds of wrong (reader beware):http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys
Don't know how many of these people are world class trolls and how many have serious emotional problems...
― Moodles, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I believe that is the fifth time I have seen that linked on ILX today, (the 2nd time on this thread)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
this is the only one that i think is funny, just cuz it's so plainly written and matter of fact
http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/2/12/21/enhanced-buzz-15156-1329101591-24.jpg
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
dude in the photo is amazing too
― some dude, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
somebody on my fb feed keeps on saying that society forgave mel gibson and charlie sheen, so society should forgiven chris brown too
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
mel gibson should forgive chris brown
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
3/1/02 We Were Soldiers $78,122,718 8/2/02 Signs $227,966,634 1/29/10 Edge of Darkness $43,313,890 5/6/11 The Beaver $970,816
mel's sole movie on the shelf (he plays a convict from a mexican prison who gets help from a little boy) is going straight-to-dvd, too
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
Gibson's career is over fyi
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
I heard he's getting a gig with PETA
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
Trends: New Haven trends TB Supports Chris Brown
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-o8zbO9GXEk4/TVlkt-Ln-MI/AAAAAAAACbg/WMX_1uTo2aI/s200/emoji1-thumbs%2Bup.jpg
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://i39.tinypic.com/34q8rqf.jpg
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago) link
#WhyShe #WannaBePunchedByChrisBrown
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
Eff this guy and eff the Grammys. Anyone who watched that crap is supporting this asshole.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
every time i turn on my TV i'm supporting lots of assholes. i'm kind of used to it.
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
eh, ppl thinking different things about things shocker. not inclined to blame their parents, either. lots of kids make a big point of rejecting their parents' values.
i think bush's second election somehow cured me of surprise as a response to human behavior, tbh...
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
seriously, delete humanity now
http://jezebel.com/5885102/woman-who-tweeted-shed-let-chris-brown-beat-her-inundated-with-assault-rape-threats/
― Roz, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
obviously that's awful but i mean, i've never felt less sympathy for someone being threatened with violence if i'm being really honest
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
this is the onion right?
She says now that she regrets making the joke on Twitter, as she had only signed up for her account a few days prior and it didn't occur to her how public it was. "I in no way condone what he did. I am not a fan of Chris Brown's music nor do I follow his career in any way but I do happen to appreciate his face," she says.
"I in no way condone what he did. I am not a fan of Chris Brown's music nor do I follow his career in any way but I do happen to appreciate his face," she says.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/chris-brown-tweet-640-e13292614414141.jpg
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure the ultimate fuck off is when you are chris brown
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
come on, he's obviously contrite
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i would say that the ultimate fuck off is making $20 million dollars in a year or w/e but then again i also don't have a grammy
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Miranda_Lambert Miranda Lambert Not cool that we act like that didn't happen. He needs to listen to Gunpowder and lead and be put back in his place. Not at the Grammys.13 FebMiranda_Lambert Miranda Lambert How dang long did they give Nicki Minaj to do whatever that was? Strange. And Chris Brown twice? I don't get it. He beat on a girl...13 Feb
Miranda_Lambert Miranda Lambert
How dang long did they give Nicki Minaj to do whatever that was? Strange. And Chris Brown twice? I don't get it. He beat on a girl...13 Feb
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
Starland Vocal Band has a grammy too. They really aren't that prestigious.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
OTM. I want to join Twitter just to tweet "congrats, you are a womanbeater with a Grammy" at him
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/report-rihanna-and-chris-brown-reunite-on-1006213152.story#/column/the-juice/report-rihanna-and-chris-brown-reunite-on-1006213152.story
Word on the blogosphere is that the feature on Rihanna's upcoming remix to "Birthday Cake" is none other then ex-boyfriend, Chris Brown.
According to MissInfo.tv, the collaboration is indeed happening! Sources tell Info that Chris Brown laced the track and will be seen in the music video. Breezy reportedly sings and rhymes on the track, but we'll have to wait till next week, release date, to hear if both parts will be included.
Over the weekend, Chris Brown and Rihanna were seen leaving a West Hollywood studio, separately. Co-producers of "Birthday Cake," Da Internz -- comprised of Kosine and Tuo -- hinted on the collaboration when they told MTV News that the cameo on the track would "shock the world."
"It's gonna be crazy," Tuo said. "And the feature on there is gonna shock the world," Kosine added.
The icing on the cake is that Brown did indeed attend Rihanna's 24th birthday celebration on Monday night (Feb. 13). Sources say the singers came together and were close the entire night.
http://gifsoup.com/view6/3420038/hard-o.gif
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23ChrisBrownPickupLines
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
ffs re: rihanna
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
god how depressing now all the apologists are gonna be like TOLD U SO and everything, horrible
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
so much stupidity. what is wrong with people?
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
also, like *in theory* i totally don't feel like stars/artists/athletes have an obligation to be "role models" but god rhianna what kind of message does this send to girls that look up to you?
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
she got the message SO RIGHT at the time, too
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
ugh
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
so how long til next beating
6 months? a year?
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
this is fucked
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
damn, and i liked "Birthday Cake" too
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
This. Twitter is gonna be full of self-righteous TEAM BREEZY people for awhile.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
this sucks
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
And now I am done with Rihanna (assuming this is true obv)
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
Can't see the thread before the cutoff - has this been discussed?
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/03/05/brown.warrant.pdf
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
most likely three years ago, yeah
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
somebody just linked me to it and I thought it was newly leaked. What a scumbag
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
D.G. @ChrsBrwnChllnge
@chrisbrown Not a joke. I want to fight you, UFC rules. Prove you can take a man hand to hand. I'm sure you know why. Age 24, 5'7",160Lbs.
― The Reverend, Friday, 17 February 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
i feel sick
― teledyldonix, Friday, 17 February 2012 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, June 24, 2011 4:21 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
am heavily reliant on believing in this right now
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:32 (twelve years ago) link
really wish i could believe that. have the sense that he will go forever unpunished, and at some point "the rhianna incident" will just be a footnote in his career.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I don't think reality necessarily conforms to our political moralities. outside of our polite little socio-economic niche, most people don't really give a shit about this stuff
― Chris S, Friday, 17 February 2012 09:14 (twelve years ago) link
"Strange how we pick and choose who to hate! Let me ask u this. Our society is full of rappers (which I listen to) who have sold drugs (poisoning). But yet we glorify them and imitate everything they do. Then right before the worlds eyes a man shows how he can make a Big mistake and learn from it, but still has to deal with day to day hatred! You guys love to hate!!! But guess what???"
"HATE ALL U WANT BECUZ I GOT A GRAMMY Now! That's the ultimate FUCK OFF!"
― owenf, Friday, 17 February 2012 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
ten bag of rat poison
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
ftr my old post that lex quoted (which i still basically believe) was not saying that "karma" is going to catch up with him, i know bad deeds go unpunished and celebrities get away with shit all the time. what i was saying is that CB is his own worst enemy and that he's as incapable of putting this behind him as anybody, which is why when he has a #1 album the headlines are about him freaking out at an interview and ripping his shirt off, and when he wins a grammy the headlines are about him going on angry twitter rants. his fans can keep trying to change the narrative from him being a rage-filled headcase but thet'll never be too effective with him constantly acting like one.
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
btw: http://todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/16/10425028-chris-brown-denies-using-i-promise-i-wont-beat-you-as-pickup-line
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
that obviously fake piece of "gossip" is just a safe way for America to laugh at a woman-beating joke through the eyes of feigning concern.
― dave cool, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
someone forgot they were posting under their sock login
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
well his other login is banned so he has no choice, which is why it's hilarious when he can't resist breaking character
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
oh I know, I was just sayin'
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Rihanna would think I'm cool
― dave cool, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Its one thing to see TEAM BREEZY defending him on Twitter and comments sections, but now a couple people in my life have been ranting on Facebook about how he just "made a mistake" and "deserves a second chance" and I'm just, ugh.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
idk I think dave cool deserves a second chance
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
TEAM DEEZY
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
sh1pley gohard and dave cool both otm
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
btw have you guys heard that Pitbull single "International Love" where the only places Chris Brown mentions in the chorus are New York City, Los Angeles and Miami, and he sings them like they rhyme with each other? stay in school kids.
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ otm
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
haters just wont leave this guy alone what like youve never made a mistake abt the meaning of the word international
― lag∞n, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
the subtext of the song is that he gets from miami to LA by flying east
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
when i interviewed ciara back in the day i asked her about growing up all over the world (international military airbases where her dad was stationed) and her eyes went wide and she said, "oh, yes! i grew up all over the world! atlanta, chicago, houston!" and i kind of went "..." but hauled the interview back on track by moving on rapidly
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
Don't u see it's because he's so rich he can afford to go THE LONG WAY and not even give a shit?
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
the ultimate fuck off
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
brr
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
times like this i wish ilx did caption contests
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, February 17, 2012 5:20 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i wish i wish i wish i wish a bitch wooooooouuuuuuuuuld
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
CB's "brain unscrewed from the socket" t-shirt otm
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
miranda lambert <3 <3 <3
http://tasteofcountry.com/miranda-lambert-chris-brown-gunpowder-lead/
― lex pretend, Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
this should get ugly.I mean, god bless miranda and all and she's dead on but when a white southern women tells a young black man to get back in his place and that she's got a shotgunnot that i got an issue! everybody else had their chance, let's let country get into it if rnb ain't gonna.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 February 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
eh i really don't think there's a racial subtext here
― chilli, Monday, 20 February 2012 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
there's not and i wanna make it clear that i don't think there isbut i'd be shocked if facebook agrees with me and i'm not looking forward to a shit ton of dumbfuck "analysis" on this shortly.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 February 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
shotgun rhetoric is alarmingly overblown but I am not American
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 20 February 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link
or because the shotgun is central to the song?
i haven't really seen this getting interpreted in a racial way anywhere else.
― lex pretend, Monday, 20 February 2012 12:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58599000/jpg/_58599085_brownseagull.jpg
even the birds hate him
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/17100058
― boxedjoy, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
lololololololol
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 20 February 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
chris brown attacked by birds, everyone takes pictures
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/eePa1.png
― prolego, Monday, 20 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/RbObm.png
i know this is some automated thing but i can't help but think of chris brown silently disapproving of letoya's troubled relationship in this vid
― chilli, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/mDanO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DIn3n.png
― dave cool, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/mDanO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DIn3n.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mDanO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DIn3n.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mDanO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DIn3n.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mDanO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DIn3n.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mDanO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DIn3n.png
― dave cool, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
yikes
http://idolator.com/6191892/rihanna-chris-brown-birthday-cake-listen
― piscesx, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
ah fuckand i really liked that track too.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
you can still like it
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
i guess
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
I feel a bit sick to be honest.
I'm completely done with her.
― prolego, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
but he is so sexi
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link
birds even chase him
― prolego, Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:07 AM (9 minutes ago
this is so ridiculous
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
trading her off my team on madden as soon as i get home
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
How am I supposed to enjoy this song about having someone eat my cake while that idiot man-child is offering to do the deed? NO THANK YOU -- GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
god be as angry as you want abt CB but rihanna can do whatever the fuck she wants w/ her life
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
she's a role model for millions of young girls dogg
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I'm not so sure I get this either. Write off Brown all you want, I did a long time ago, but it seems weird to turn on the victim here. Like, yes, maybe she's making some questionable decisions, but they are hers to make.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
I was already completely done with Rihanna because I do not like her music
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
Well thats fair. Wrong. But fair.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
it makes me sad that they're back together but it's not exactly surprising. cycle of abuse iirc. i hope she gets out eventually.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. not our place to tell a victim of domestic abuse what to do when processing and dealing with what happened to her.
especially when there are plenty of other people to blame/direct anger at - CB, naturally but also labels, management, anyone on the business side who encouraged this, general society at large (like, not us, but all the gossip mags etc.) who have been clamoring for some sort of a 'reunion'/'forgiveness' media story pretty much since it happened.
if we're that concerned about 'what kind of a message is she sending?!?!' etc. then there are plenty of other ways that people can get involved tangibly on domestic abuse issues - whether it's just fundraising and supporting shelters or something more direct. getting all superior @ rihanna about how she's dealing with this doesn't really help anyone, imo.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
not directed at anyone in particular - just seen a lot of blame/'concern' directed at rihanna over this in general across the internet.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, February 20, 2012 10:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes and she can still do whatever the fuck she wants with her life. if young girls want to hang out with men who abused them in the past, they can do that too. it might not sit right with you but women don't deserve to be judged and shamed for it.
xpost alex otm
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
yeah & this is mostly whom I'm angry with.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
I just take issue with this "she can do whatever the fuck she wants with her life." No, musicians and public figures can't do whatever the fuck they want with their lives without copping shit for being irresponsible + sending inappropriate messages. I understand that she's a victim of abuse, but anyone who is saying "oh, she can do what she wants" is basically saying they are fine with this situation.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
it's not her responsibility to be a role model, man. people can be 'fine with the situation' because it's not really anyone's business. they're people too
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
ok, fine.
fuck pop music.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I misrepresented my position -- I'm not mad at Rihanna personally, I'm just frustrated that she lives in a world such that people are making her do things like work with Chris Brown. I seriously doubt she would have done this without serious pressure/encouragement.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link
I seriously doubt she would have done this without serious pressure/encouragement.
this is not the impression I get at all
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
Thats a big-time projection xp. Who knows, really.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
but anyone who is saying "oh, she can do what she wants" is basically saying they are fine with this situation
but i am "fine with this situation", bc she's an adult who can make her own decisions based on what she wants and what she thinks is good for her, and she knows a lot more about her own life/situation than i do
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
I guess you guys have a more optimistic view of the pop star's role in his/her own career than I do.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago) link
it isn't happening in a vacuum but that isn't an excuse to jump to the conclusion someone else is making the decision for her to hang out with him at her birthday party and w/e
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
lol I didn't know she had been hanging out with him brah
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
I'll stop posting on this thread for the good of humanity.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
― chilli, Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:58 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its there whether she intends it to be or not
― D-40, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 07:42 (twelve years ago) link
if she hadn't used 'in his place' -- which has specific racial connotations -- then it wouldn't but that's a p loaded phrase
otherwise shes completely otm, obv
― D-40, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 07:43 (twelve years ago) link
rhianna's free to do what she wants with her life, but publicly embracing her abuser does send a fucked up message. not blaming her, but i am disappointed. such is life, i guess...
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 07:44 (twelve years ago) link
^ yeah, this is what I was going for. I agree that she can "do what she wants" in the sense of interacting with/hanging out with/being friends with Chris Brown in her own life + I don't think she should have to go out of her way to do this when the paparazzi's not looking. But recording a song with him and helping to buoy his career is the kind of thing where somewhere along the line someone should have said "this is a terrible idea and shouldn't happen." it seems disgustingly exploitative to me.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 07:55 (twelve years ago) link
"It was a wake-up call. It was a wake-up call for me. Big time," Rihanna told "Good Morning America" co-anchor Diane Sawyer in her first television interview discussing the assault. "I will say that to any young girl who is going through domestic violence, don't react off of love. F love. Come out of the situation and look at it in the third person and for what it really is."
The pop star said it was "embarrassing" that Brown was the type of person she fell in love with.
"So far in love. So unconditional that I went back. It's humiliating to say this happened. To accept that? It's a traumatizing experience," she said.
Her decision to go back to Brown, she said, was a mistake.
"I stayed. I even went back after he beat me, which was wrong," she said. "But again ... I'm a human being and people put me on a very unrealistic pedestal. And all these expectations, I'm not perfect."EXCLUSIVE: Rihanna Says Going Back to Brown 'Not Right'ABC NewsIn first TV interview, Rihanna discusses abuse and her message to female fans.
The 21-year-old star acknowledged that Brown held her in a headlock twice that night and bit her on the ear and fingers. She told Sawyer that she did not try to fight back.
"I just wanted it to stop. I was not interested in hurting him back," she said.
After months of silence since the February beating, Rihanna decided to speak publicly about the ordeal so she can be a voice to help others who may be in danger of returning to abuse.
"It's completely normal to go back. It's not right. I learned the hard way, but again, this is what I want people to know," she said. "When I realized that my selfish decision for love could result in some young girl getting killed, I could not be easy with that part. I couldn't be held responsible for going back.
"Even if Chris never hit me again, who is to say that their boyfriend won't? Who's to say that they won't kill these girls?" she said. "These are young girls and I just didn't realize how much of an impact I had on these girls' lives until that happened."
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 08:05 (twelve years ago) link
pop stars shouldn't be seen as role models and rihanna can do what she wants and i agree the focus of people's anger shouldn't be her - this anger was ALREADY directed at CB and the music industry before news of this collab emerged though. i'm angry at those around her, family and friends - you don't just let a friend of yours head back into an abusive relationship with a douche and act like it's okay.
i guess i'm disappointed in her though, rather than angry, because SHE GOT IT THREE YEARS AGO; and because she seems to be giving out every impression that this is part of her ~rebelliousness~ which is ughhh on so many levels.
there's also a weird power dynamic at work here in that rihanna must surely be aware that her seal of approval is the last piece needed to fully rehabilitate CB's career, and she's granted it now.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
What is this "back together" business? All I saw was that he did a remix for her and wished her happy birthday on Twitter.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i'm disappointed in her though, rather than angry, because SHE GOT IT THREE YEARS AGO; and because she seems to be giving out every impression that this is part of her ~rebelliousness~ which is ughhh on so many levels.there's also a weird power dynamic at work here in that rihanna must surely be aware that her seal of approval is the last piece needed to fully rehabilitate CB's career, and she's granted it now
Exactly -- all of these dumb people who keep demanding CB be accepted will exploit this to the hilt.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
"give it to her in the worst way"
― nowadays suckers seem to be so fucking naïve (uberweiss), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
they're not back together afaik, doesn't he have another girlfriend
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
Like that would stop him.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not mad at Rihanna personally, I'm just frustrated that she lives in a world such that people are making her do things like work with Chris Brown.
idk whether this "she's gone back to him" line is true or not but whether or not it is it's 100% ok to be pissed off @ Rihanna about the whole deal imo & it weirds me out that people are taking this libertarian "people have the right to fuck themselves up & nobody should be mad"/"it's her life" line. my mom went back to her abuser time & again & it 1) fucked up me and my sister for life 2) fucked her up for life & 3) impacted every family member in our orbit very negatively: everybody involved deserved better except the abuser so fuck any "adults get to make their own choices" stuff on this, people have a responsibility to take care of themselves and not be assholes to themselves + it's otm to say that the example set by Chris Brown getting any kind of a pass is a poor one
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
It's not really, as I understand it, a case of "she's going back to her abuser" as one of "huge amounts of money and music biz power are being thrown at the message that you can forgive the guy that beat you and sing a song together" which is pretty fucking bad in its own right.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
wait, libertarian? is the alternative getting the govt to regulate who rihanna can hang out with? in that case i guess i'm a p hardcore libertarian. imo this is about people shaming a woman for making choices dude.
the second part of what you say can certainly apply to people who actually know rihanna and what's going on in her life and love her. but masses of people on the internet who only know the details that seep through from press releases and gossip sites, that's just public shaming that she doesn't deserve.
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
wait, libertarian? is the alternative getting the govt to regulate who rihanna can hang out with? in that case i guess i'm a p hardcore libertarian.
i tried to find a jpg of milton friedman doing a facepalm but
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
imo this is about people shaming a woman for making choices dude.
I can't.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
i wasn't being serious i just take some serious offense at having that word used to describe something i said xpost
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
well i thought aero was describing the general sense of the thread and not you specifically, but all right
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
lol no, Nicole otm
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
I think, as a society, if we are more concerned about preserving the appearance of personal agency than we are in putting out the message that associating with people who beat you up isn't a good idea, we have very wrong priorities.
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
lex, Matt DC, DJP all OTM. Greatly disappointed in Rhianna, but everyone else who's making money by perpetuating CB's career is a vile human being.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not even disappointed in Rihanna really; I wonder how much choice she actually has in this matter.
Like, if a controlling narrative MUST be put out there, it's probably better for everyone in the long run if it's "be wary of people who beat you up" rather than "true romance overcomes all".
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
wait, what does Rihanna not have a choice in here? what do you think she's being told or forced to do?
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
That was poorly phrased but I can't reword to better express what I'm thinking.
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
what does Team Breezy think about this?
― black Emanuelle did costume design for Troll 2 (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
what really makes me think rihanna is trolling for publicity is the fact that this collab is a fucking sex jam on which CB sings about blowing out her candles and wanting her in the worst way - like it's not EVEN a doomed-romance thing, she's not trying to make a "teachable moment" about domestic abuse out of this (as she did in 2009), it's just something designed to outrage and scandalise
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
(I only ask because I know that most people who had Rihanna's back when everything went down are going to be dismayed/disappointed/disgusted by this turn of events, and I def got the impression that Chris Brown's army of fans had necessarily vilified her for multiple reasons. I feel like this is something that will alienate many fans and win her none, and I'm kinda concerned about her career/self-sabotaging at this point...) xp
― black Emanuelle did costume design for Troll 2 (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno in a way i respect that they're just doing the same kind of filthy club song they always do seperately instead of some kind of sappy cathartic ballad that they both lack the vocal ability or apparent emotional intelligence to pull off (xpost)
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
anyway blame your boy terius for bringing out the stupid "birthday"/"worst way" rhyme again
Good discussion about two of the dullest people on earth.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
some kind of sappy cathartic ballad that they both lack the vocal ability or apparent emotional intelligence to pull off
"cold case love" and "russian roulette" were awesome :(
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
her label and management were completely dead set against this - it's why she put it putt out on a zshare link on twitter rather than them giving it a proper release on iTunes. She probably sees it as some great act of rebellion, with her and Chris star-crossed lovers battling against all odds, ugh.
― prolego, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
oof.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah, it's career suicide xp
― black Emanuelle did costume design for Troll 2 (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
her and Chris star-crossed lovers battling
wrong metaphor, no?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Rated R wasn't what i had in mind with "sappy cathartic ballad"
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
mmm the last time i thought "this is career suicide" was when chris brown beat rihanna's face to a pulp so i'm not rushing to make any predictions here
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really get why anyone thinks this is going to seriously hurt Rihanna. y'all know how many #1s she's had in the past couple years, right?
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
because it's going to alienate many longtime fans?
― black Emanuelle did costume design for Troll 2 (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
the success of her music is SO completely divorced from whether people think she's a good or smart person or a role model or whatever
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
like this kind of thing would alienate Kelly Clarkson's fanbase, not Rihanna's
yeah her celebrity is going to pull through this fine I think.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
they are both going to come out of this with careers booming
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
at the risk of being repetitive:
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 6, 2009 12:49 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
just because something happened and someone somewhere predicted it doesn't make it TOTALLY OBVIOUS AND PREDICTABLE
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
apparently CB missed out the "redemption" stage of that
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe for him redemption = sulking.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
shakey that narrative is almost wholly about booze and drugs.
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
like, the fact that you hadn't even heard of Chris Brown before 2009 speaks to how tonedeaf you are to the whole cultural context of this whole thing and that your 'vindicated' accurate prediction was just a blind chicken finding a kernel of corn (xpost)
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
corn is delicious
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
he's in it right now, I'd say it probably started with that awful "Man in the Mirror" performance
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
eh I can think of some other non-booze-n-drugs examples (Polanski, Rob Lowe) but you do have the "almost" qualifier in there so yeah okay
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
man i really hope Charlie Sheen sings "Man In The Mirror" on BET in a couple years
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
what makes it totally predictable is the amount of money involved. industry wasn't gonna just let a cash-cow like this go down the drain without milking it.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
ah yes, that massive unstoppable cash cow you hadn't even heard of at that point
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
there's lots of cash cows I don't pay attention to
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
for a short while it actually seemed somewhat like the industry was thinking about "replacing" him, if that's possible. they let jason derulo et al out of the gate not too long after the incident, no?
― teledyldonix, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it was gonna be trey songz
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
who even upped his game musically!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
trey songz would have been much better
― teledyldonix, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
don't think trey songz is willing to be pop enough, god bless him
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
trey songz will always be that "singing dude who made douchefaces in that one scarface video where scarface didn't want to get married and poor bun b had to explain everything to the preacher and his fiance" to me
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdX0X490bRwin other news missy kills this, chris not so much
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeeeeeeeeeehaw
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Chris-Brown-Angrily-Snatched-Fans-iPhone-Outside-South-Beach-Club-Police-140186213.html
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
The woman, Christal Spann, and her friends followed Brown and rapper Tyga outside, where she saw him get into his black Bentley, according to a Miami Beach Police report. Spann approached Brown and took a photo with her $500 white iPhone 4S while he was sitting in his car.
Then the surly hip-hop star reached through the window, took her cell phone from her hands, and said, “B**** you ain’t going to put that on no website,” Spann told police.
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
this fucking guy
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
a few times lately i've gotten annoyed at journalists referring to chris brown as a 'rapper' or 'hip-hop star' and then i remember "look at me now" and feel confused about whether i should still be mad
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
if chris brown is going to clubs and driving himself home, there's still a small chance that he'll drive drunk and kill himself. so not all hope is lost.
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
"Superstar tennis ball Chris Brown"
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
Is this possibly a violation of his probation? It was 5 years, right? I hope so.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
he got away with throwing a chair through a window, so
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
Chris Brown - "I Threw A Chair Through A Window" (in the style of U2)
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
maybe this is some andy kaufman style ish on his part
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there's some story in superfreakonomics, which i was reading on teh toilet the other day, where they suggest drunk walking is more likely to get you killed than drunk driving, sadly
― D-40, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
this fucking guy's comeuppance, when it happens and it WILL happen because he apparently cannot stop himself acting like the worst fucking cunt at all times, will be so sweet to watch
― lex pretend, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
lex otm
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:52 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha my roommate was listening to the freakonomics podcast last night and they were talking about this. it seems super flimsy to me, also as they pointed out you can't murder one or multiple innocent people if you're drunk walking
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
that sounds like a challenge
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
off topic guys but freakanomics is utter bullshit dont pay any attention to it plz
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean i heard this by accident and it sounded pretty "eh?? eh????" trolly and nonsensical
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
in an alternate, better world, freakanomics is economics taught by big booty professors in thongs to a Miami bass beat
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
we have some down there in our middle schools i think
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah they started off by using multiple regression in a absurd way and have since just kinda become promoters of counterintuitive bullshit climate change skeptics etc
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah but if chris brown kills somebody ELSE it doesnt really qualify as 'karma' does it?
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah was v disappointed when i actually opened it up. superfreakonomics sounded even more promising
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
are they wrong abt drunk walking being deadlier than drunk driving tho
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
they must be right, i mean theres no way
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
when u drunkwalk ur much more likely to bump into someone starting a fight which ends up in a deadly knifeduel
― buzza, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
"if we assume" = yeah right
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
the classic take down of using multiple regression in a freaknomics type manner http://www.crab.rutgers.edu/~goertzel/mythsofmurder.htm - the scary thing is w/super freaknomics they even abandoned this half assed level of scienceing and just found fascinating crazy people to talk to
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm not arguing this mr. smarm
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
freakonomics is about the only text related to economics that i've ever understood
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link
it was readable but didn't seem especially insightful
― D-40, Friday, February 24, 2012 1:40 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe im not arguing it
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
if you say so, mr. smarm
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Keaton's worst movie IMO
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
thats mr. smarm to u
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
thank you for the link on multiple regression, it is a very enjoyable read
so did anyone hear about how chris brown stole a fan's iphone
― teledyldonix, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
It would be funny if he ends up in jail for taking an iphone, and not for smashing someone's face in. And by funny I mean infuriating.
― Nicole, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
Bullseye.
― thinveneer, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
totally infuriating, not that i won't take it
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/02/threatening-chris-brown-is-not-helpful/253541
This information isn't offered to make anyone more lenient on Chris Brown, or to excuse his actions. It's offered to point out that Brown's capacity for abusive violence didn't materialize out of thin air. And when threatening him with more abuse, it's worth thinking about how this all began. When you threaten Chris Brown you aren't fighting abusive violence. You are speaking his language.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
I had heard about the CM Punk thing, but didn't hear how horrifyingly racist it was.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-02-24/the-soapbox-facts-about-rihanna-and-other-abused-women/
this is a good article, though a bit beginner's 101 wrt domestic abuse psychology and it's assumptive like everyone else is -- are we all just assuming they're back together romantically, now? no one knows that. but still, if they were, the article is helpful reading.
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Friday, 24 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
they're obviously making a lot of public gestures of spending time together and people around them seem pretty certain they're at least hooking up, so whether they're once again in a completely monogomous relationship is kind of a moot point (CB still has a girlfriend who is reportedly fine w/ an open relationship)
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
of course she is!
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
if only we all had sig others who were fine with having open relationships aka fucking our ex girlfriend rihanna
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
my wife never lets me even hang out with rihanna just to catch up on old times :(
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
if they're not actually together again the song is even more distasteful tbh cuz then it really is purely using the abuse narrative to get attention.
zach w/all due respect i think most people itt are v aware of domestic abuse psychology, victim-blaming and so on; rihanna of course has the right to make whatever decision she wants but going out of one's way to defend those (stupid, distasteful) decisions is a different thing. and finding her actions depressing isn't the same as blaming her, much less blaming her instead of CB and the music industry.
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, February 24, 2012 10:18 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dude you post like everything i say is completely straightfaced chillax bro
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
tbf you post like that as well
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
^^
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
I promise that if im calling someone "mr. smarm" i'm not thinking "man I just zinged him but good"
your style is hella jr. high school al
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
Oh good we haven't had one of these in awhile.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
also another thing on rihanna - theoretically i am totally 100% against the idea that pop stars "should" behave like role models. but in practice her actions do have an effect!
In the days following Rihanna's 20/20 interview, calls to the National Domestic Violence Hotline rose by 59% – with the National Teen Dating Abuse Helpline seeing a 73% increase.
i mean...that happened. we can handwave away her responsibility as much as we want and we probably shouldn't place any onus on her to behave in any way, but that happened, and as she acknowledged at the time she knew that would happen.
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
As long as al can still ital posts to imply smug condescension I'm not sure these will ever end
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
why do they keep returning to this abusive relationship
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
CM Punk said he was straight edge in that clip, i wonder what sxe bands he likes?
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
obv Minor Threat
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
deej i'm obviously just trying to earn my own catchy and cutting nickname like "mr. smarm"
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
may i suggest "smuggy mcsmuggerson"?
smarm & hammer
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
lemme smarm it
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
so my takeaway from this is that if we pull [i] out of the available BBCode, these fights will stop
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
this is like when jblount would try to son me but didn't realize he didn't disagree w/ me
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
smarm und drang
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
the entire subtext of posting mr smarm was that it was obv a lame insult dude
the talented mr. smarm
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
mr. smarm
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
that post is a reference to mr. mom
haha i was just trying to figure out to do a mr. mom version of mr. smarm
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
Keaton's worst movie IMO― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, February 24, 2012 11:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, February 24, 2012 11:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i think djp already covered that though
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
mr. mom is a great movie, though; does not compute
― D-40, Friday, February 24, 2012 3:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this does remind me of how you're totally bulletproof and incapable of being critized or made fun of in your mind
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
killer deejs on the smarm
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
I was imagining "Mr Smarm" to be its direct to video sequel
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
oh okay then
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OH DIP DUDE NOW WE FIGHT *karate chop*
I'M MAD HEATED RIGHT NOW
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
wait nevermind
i still want to know if more ppl are killed walking home drunk than driving home drunk but
~the world may never know~ /tootsie pop owl
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
i take back that karate chop dan i'm sorry
the smarm girl looks crazy
― goole, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
i heartily approve of intensely pro-mr. mom sentiment
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
joe's article on multiple regressions is good but it doesnt actually speak to the issue i was interested in here it just suggests that their attempts to apply statistical analysis could have other variables not taken into acct which i can totally understand, i.e. the diff between rural & city drinkers
but i had never really thought abt the deadly dangers of drunk walking & hit & runs are obv common in some areas based purely on the stats the present up front before even making their argument
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
did m@tt make a typo when saying DJP or did he use "OH DIP" as an exclamation
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
I choose to believe the latter
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
that was how i read it, too
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah "Oh dip" like an exclamation! i don't take that part back
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:11 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no ive clearly been made fun of here before but you literally do just make up shit sometimes, like claiming that i thought nicki minaj was good b/c she was with mizay rather than that just being a name for the era when she was at her best; in general my exp engaging w/ you on ilx is that you sort of presume the worst abt what i 'actually think' like you're constantly trying to bag on me as a dumbass or something & its kind of frustrating to watch personally, like dude, i know everyone's not as smart as you but really, i swear i'm not as stupid as you seem to think i am
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
but you act so dumb!
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
no, you presume the stupidest possible interpretation every single time
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
and get off your high horse sometimes jesus
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nKa-dM7PvEo/SJoq0xXyCRI/AAAAAAAACB0/1GLKbKLfUbE/s400/jesus_horse_clouds_king.jpg
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
it's funny how i can be as juvenile and mean as i want and you still think i'm being "superior"
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
like, nothing about 'mizay-era minaj' is dumb! its just a description of a period of her career! and you decided to read into that that i was somehow the only person on earth who associated musical output with management
which 1st off is totally untrue -- lots of people do & i'm sure there are cases where management did have an effect, but
2nd, i never made any causation argument there anyway, just observed that this was when her music was best to me.
its like u just want to beat up on me out of boredom or something which, lol ilx, but im letting you know right here that its kind of annoying
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
you guys are still friends, though, right? deej-some dude fights make me anxious.
― horseshoe, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
its like u just want to beat up on me out of boredom
uh, maybe this thread is not the place for this.
― Nicole, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
jho already made that joke
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
referring to it as the "mizay era" was kinda funny imo
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
(sorry poor taste) xp
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
thank you, j0rdan
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think that post of jordan's backs you up at all?
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
the first time deej casually said "Mizay" to me like i was supposed to understand exactly what that name means was right after he declared "there's no way a dude like Lil Durk has as many actual youtube views as Bo Deal" and i was like okay man i don't have the right tunnel vision for this conversation
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the phrase "mizay era" was funny, so does j0rdan
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i'd try to take this offline & talk to him on IM but hes posted IMs publicly in the past so now i dont really feel comfortable doing that either
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
deejs world of lame insult dudes
― 99x (Lamp), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:30 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah but how does that have anything to do w/ what you posted
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Friday, February 24, 2012 3:15 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
would this influence your decision making?
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
y'know deej there's an amazing strategy of conflict resolution you've never ever tried before called (italics coming) dropping it
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
djp djp djp djve, socjaljze
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
oh sorry you guys are shitstorming
I mean obviously not but you seem to understand why the freakonomics thing was stupid, what else do you want to know?
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
djdn't mean to jnterrupt
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:31 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no i just found it interesting
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, the fact is vehicles are more likely to kill other people anyway, but that wasn't the question it was about chris brown receiving divine comeuppance
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
i had an entire conversation with my housemate, ate crackers and went out to post some letters and this is still going on!
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
crackers be biters
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
you mjisspelled bjters
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
oh dammjt fucked up my own joek
oh dip
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:33 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i guess one thing that really interests me in life is how people have reasonable & unreasonable fears (well i guess no 'fear' is reasonable but let's say people will manage risks based on perceived risk w/out a real sense of perspective) so what i was wondering was whether or not ppl realize how 'dangerous' drunk walking could be or if freakonomics dudes were just blowing that up for the sake of a hook into a partic. chapter of the book. Like, perceived risks vs. actual risks is something i wonder about a lot (like irrational fear of flying when people are more likely to die in a traffic accident -- sometimes received wisdom is actually wrong! and you don't need flawed statistical analysis to prove it)
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:29 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
some people watch SNL, some people listen to brick squad
i'm gonna call you mr. burn because there's no way i can come back from that slow-burning 15 minute zing
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
not everything is a zing.
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
maybe u should try 'dropping it' though
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
deej you should take out daniel kahneman's 'thinking, fast and slow' from the library
― 99x (Lamp), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha it's funny you brought this up cuz "you're more likely to die in a car crash than a plane crash" is biased in probably very similar ways that the drunk walking vs drunk driving was
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:41 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:41 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Thought I was on De Subjectivisten for a minute there.
― Ascot Fitzgerald (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
that looks interesting, although part of the amazon write-up kind of made me think of the book on elbows
http://www.magicalwasteland.com/mw/2012/1/31/fake-non-fiction-best-sellers.html xxp
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, February 24, 2012 2:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well i think its definitively true though in a way their study doesn't seem to be
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, was gonna say. deaths per traveler, per trip and per mile traveled are all higher by car, iirc
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
well both planes and cars should banned obv
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
it's true, ornithopters all the way
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
I want to join this argument cause it involves math and cars but I am having trouble understanding what is going on
― iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
also I don't care about chris brown
― iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
(drunk walks away)
lamp is right tho everyone should read kahneman
― iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
im reading reviews now, partly b/c i was trying to figure out to what degree that was a lamp zing
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
it's prob a zing tbh but if all ilx zings were educational we would be much better off
― iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean hes not blowing my mind that 'mr smarm' wasn't a 'zing' that i used 'system 2' to come up w/ here that was kind of my point
but if he was just responding to the drunk driving v drunk walking thing then fair play
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
er, system 1. i have those numbers backwards
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
i wish i could be given the linda problem again w/out knowing the outcome
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
ny times should have spoiler alerts
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
I was gone for a little bit did deezy and somedude get back together
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
no but deej said i "beat up on" him in the chris brown thread without a trace of self-awareness, it was pretty amazing
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
don't touch my iphone!
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
now you're trying too hard. make it seem effortless xp
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
it's the difference between using system 1 for zings and system 2 for zings
― iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7pZZGHLQfw
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
or system 1 v 2 for ilxing more broadly
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol wait you started a thread about kahneman deej http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=83725
― iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
knew that name sounded familiar lol
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
apropos of nothing, "Al's Beef" presents itself as chicago's #1 italian beef franchise
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
beef is when al sees you deej
― pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol I actually thought of that a long time ago and like four times now I've almost posted an Al's Italian Beef jpeg but I figured only deej would appreciate it
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
i sort of wonder to what degree these books -- and the Times review sort of touches on this -- serve to just make us that much more self conscious
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
i have an olive complexion but no italian genes afaik, no passantino
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Saturday, 25 February 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzzf54K7Px1qahdn2o1_250.gif http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzzf54K7Px1qahdn2o2_r1_250.gif
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
where was that
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
Independent Spirit Awards is my guess.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
yep, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/25/seth-rogen-independent-spirit-awards_n_1301899.html
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 26 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
seth rogen seriously ignoring a lot of oscar nominated actors here
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
As for "The Artist" -- which wound up winning four Spirit Awards, including Best Feature -- Rogen quipped, "I thought we created the whole foreign film category to stop this shit from happening."
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Which Oscar-nominated actors beat up their fellow nominees? Genuinely curious.
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
haha fellow nominees, probably none, but there are still a lot of abusive men who've been nominated or won which i think was the more more important part there. even this year they have a guy (gary oldman) whose ex-wife accused of abusing her.
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
I hear Woody Allen threw a kosher hotdog at Meryl Streep xpost
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Every time I see the words "threw" and "hot dog" in a sentence, I expect to find the word "hallway" in there somewhere
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think seth rogan was srs about the oscars being too tough on people, that was more a set-up for dissing the grammys
― D-40, Sunday, 26 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
it was likely a joke?
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 February 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
hence, "monologue"
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
www.oscarmonologuefactcheck.org
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 27 February 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
Rogen...wrong on the Grammys...wrong for the Academys
― D-40, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:45 (3 days ago) Permalink
y'all this post has really fallen through the cracks
― een, Monday, 27 February 2012 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
?
― D-40, Monday, 27 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
that was a ref to a conversation we had earlier where i wasnt familiar w/ the current castmembers of snl
― D-40, Monday, 27 February 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
that post should be hung in the MoMA, I could read it all day
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 27 February 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
i didnt make some whiney-esque claim abt how more people know one than the other, just pointing out that we were coming from diff contexts dude
― D-40, Monday, 27 February 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.seriouscat.com/serious_cat_is_serious.jpg
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
it's a hilarious line in the sand to draw in any context. also that you're equating "listen to brick squad" with "there's no way a dude like Lil Durk has as many actual youtube views as Bo Deal"
― een, Monday, 27 February 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
actually we were talking about whether some dude, who writes about rap music in a professional context, was familiar with the names in that sentence which were 'mizay' & 'bo deal' & considering his base of knowledge it was not an out of this world expectation
fwiw i was wrong & lil durk does have more views than bo deal :O
― D-40, Monday, 27 February 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/05/serious_cat.jpg
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
who is "bo deal"?
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
we are all bo deal
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
dying @ some cat
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
i'm kind of a bo deal
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://mixtapewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bo-Deal.jpghttp://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/05/serious_cat.jpg
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol what a painfully obvious yet completely nonsensical name for that mixtape
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
the iPad is my favorite part
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
has he done "let's bo a deal" yet?
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
he's kept it free of bloodstains xpost
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
or is that "Swagu"
pretty weird that he has the 'deal or no deal' board just hanging out in his garage
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
sorry for my srs cat responses to nonsensical disses from whiney & whoever een is.
― D-40, Monday, 27 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
i still think its bizarre that noted rap crit Some Dude doesn't know names of brick squad members but w/e
my family's still mad at me for the time we lost on Family Feud because i blanked after Cartier Kitten, Popa Smurf and Nino Cahootz
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
you would've thought that ice burgundy would've been in the top 6 most popular responses
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
can someone please shop a bo deal youtube on the srs cat picture?
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
some cat!!!
― lex pretend, Monday, 27 February 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
ultimate look of disapproval, i aspire to be like that cat
― lex pretend, Monday, 27 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
"safe sex" is decent i guess in the "i think i luv her" vein of call-response tomfoolery. don't think he's that noteworthy
― chilli, Monday, 27 February 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
Safe sex is a great song, I like bo as a rapper but his tapes have been p generically brick squad. But not in the good way that wooh da kid's are. I only meant he was well known bc of the brick squad affiliation
― D-40, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
Bo had the best verse on "body bag" 2 years ago which iirc was a minor goon classic
― D-40, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
total classic
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
andre 3000 on the "deuces" remix
You’re in a place in your career where you can do pretty much whatever you want. How do you decide who to collaborate with?
Most of the time it has to be the music. The music has to kinda move me in some kind of way. Sometimes it’s emotionally, sometimes it’s just being there supporting another person. Even the Chris Brown remix—of course I love the beat, but at that time a lot of people were on Chris Brown as a human being. And I know he’d gone through his troubles or whatever and I just was like—I just wanted to stand by him and be like, Hey, you know, you can’t really charge a man forever and condemn a man forever. So it’s really just like a support thing. I thought it was a cool thing to do.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 5 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
I know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whateverI know he’d gone through his troubles or whatever
:/
― goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
― be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
iirc it is actually possible in the American legal system to condemn a man forever
― be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
i think about the line "he backflipped off the stage, but sadly not off the earth" once every other day about
― goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
smh 3000
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
HE'D gone through HIS troubles? smh
― lex pretend, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
literally if you emerged from a cave a day after the incident and just went by what everyone said about CB you'd think HE'D been the one who'd had his face smashed in by a boyfriend
― lex pretend, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
celebrities will never not have lots of sympathy for other celebrities
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
just not the female celebrities
― lex pretend, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
yah i guess i shouldve specified celebrities will never not have lots of sympathy for other celebrities media entanglements
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
cause like the media is so mean, its tough out there
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Monday, March 5, 2012 1:03 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha yeah :(
― horseshoe, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
dre goddammit
― drop these whiners on a island (Surviver style) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
Chris Brown Thanks Rihanna For Working With Him By Calling Her A Bitch On His New TrackMay 10th, 2012 // 48 Comments
View the Gallery / 24 Photos »'IT'S JUST MUSIC' Rihanna Defends Working With Chris BrownRead More »Back in February, Rihanna shocked the music world by letting her label talk into her recording two tracks with Chris Brown despite the fact he violently beat the shit out of her three years ago for simply looking at his phone and hasn’t shown a shred of remorse since. She even went so far to publicly defend working with him twice (Here and here.) and so in a sense she took him back professionally. (And possibly penis-in-vaginally.) Except here’s the part nobody could’ve seen coming because Chris Brown’s changed so much: He just released a new track – a remix of Kanye West’s Theraflu – where he essentially calls Rihanna a bitch and shits all over her. It’s completely out of character. Via Buzzfeed:
“Don’t fuck with my old bitch it’s like a bad furEvery industry nigga done had herShook the tree like a pumpkin just to smash herBitch is breaking codes, but I’m the password.”
Rihanna has since reacted by unfollowing him on Twitter (Oh noes!) before tweeting this to her followers:
Aw, poor dat #neaux1currrrr [Translation: "No one cares."]
And because he’s a little bitch Chris Brown also spouted off on Twitter before unfollowing Rihanna:
Assumptions! I didn’t say any names so if u took offense to it then its something you feel guilty about.
Of course, absolutely no one is going to feel sorry for Rihanna because A.) Let’s be honest, this is probably the nicest thing Chris Brown has ever done to her. And B.) How the fuck did she think this was going to end? Also, her life’s going pretty awesome considering she just had sex last month with Alexander Skarsgard in a Geisha house and technically isn’t even Rihanna anymore. For now she has become Chokladgudinnan av Analsex från Sexön who rides on the wings of a new, sexual Valhalla that most women will never experience. Unless they randomly jump out in front of Alexander Skarsgard at any given moment, then okay, probably.
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
smh
― The Reverend, Friday, 11 May 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
where is this text from?
― flopson, Friday, 11 May 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
THEN IT IS SOMETHING YOU FEEL GUILTY ABOUT
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah text is from a horrible gossip site the superficial, sorry for that
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
idk i think those lines are pretty innocuous & vague -- typical rap shit
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
???
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, 12 May 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
!
[Translation: "No one cares."]
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 May 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
there's a gif for that
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, 12 May 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
#neaux1currrrr
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
the -eaux fad is seriously one of the corniest things tho
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
was honestly unaware of it; feel good about that
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
xp as opposed tohttp://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/cur.jpg
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
the worst is people who think if they say "heaux", it makes it unsexist
― The Reverend, Saturday, 12 May 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, May 11, 2012 8:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so u think if rihanna reacted badly to it, it was because of something she felt guilty about?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 May 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
no
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
in general i think people read way too much specificity into lyrics written by rappers
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
they haven't dated in two years -- assuming that chris brown has had a relationship since then, he could be talking about anyone -- those are very run of the mill rap lyrics
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
but maybe they are about her idk
we all hate chris brown a lot *slaps everyone on back and nods grimly*
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Get your fucking hands off me.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^ *possibly not directed at J0rdan S.*
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno j0rd, "Don’t fuck with my old bitch it’s like a bad fur/ Every industry nigga done had her" seems pretty pointed coming within days of rihanna/meek mill rumors
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
and implying the woman he beat up should "feel guilty" about something
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I mean, there was a whole five minutes there when his career appeared to be in jeopardy. I should hope that keeps her up nights.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
I was initially opposed to the industry returning his career to him on a silver platter, but now I think it's gonna be kinda fun to watch him slowly burn away all of that goodwill (provided no one else gets hurt, of course). Chris Brown is definitely his own worst enemy.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
ok now this thread really is just we all hate chris brown a lot *slaps everyone on back and nods grimly*
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, sorry, that probably should be its own thread.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i agree with your 'worst enemy' post but i also said such a similar thing itt not long ago that i feel like the thread is just going around in circles.
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
well tbf he keeps giving providing fresh material
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
why should talking about the dumb/horrible shit chris brown does be its own thread, how does that not fit on the thread called CHRIS BROWN
yeah we don't need a new thread, although it wouldn't hurt to read the whole thread and avoid repetition
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whaaat that's pretty awesome for meek mill if true
― flopson, Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
No one talks about all the women chris brown hasn't beaten
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 May 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
meek mill would so set chris brown straight on this
― flopson, Saturday, 12 May 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
meek mill is denying the rumors up and down, i'm just saying that struck me as a likely catalyst for the cb track
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
i sort of hope that people go around agreeing that they hate chris brown and patting each other on the back until long after his pop career is a memory
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Saturday, 12 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
"yeah we don't need a new thread, although it wouldn't hurt to read the whole thread and avoid repetition"
All 2215 posts must be read to comment.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 12 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
TBF, I'm pretty sure this is the first instance of repetition in the last 10,000,000 ILX posts.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 12 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
jordan's got a low bar for innocuousness
― da croupier, Saturday, 12 May 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
or inneauxcuous
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
seaux seaux
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 May 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
how is the -eaux thing a new thing. i was seeing it on tennis msgboards in 2001
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Saturday, 12 May 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
the rest of the internet has just recently caught up to tennis messageboards from 2001
― The Reverend, Saturday, 12 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
ime at least it's been a relatively new fad in young black parlance
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Saturday, 12 May 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
this is the first i've heard of it
― some dude, Saturday, 12 May 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
teauxmas
― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
hipster peuaxppies
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
feauxrkscleauxveteauxfu
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
tempting
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Breuxn
― how's life, Saturday, 12 May 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
in today's least shocking news
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/chris-brown-temper-kicked-out-las-vegas-club_n_1535795.html
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link
also, we all know which artists have chosen to work with CB since 2009, but i would be v interested in knowing which artists have actively refused to
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 10:08 (eleven years ago) link
I love how, when you are CB's bodyguard, part of your job description is apparently to protect others from him.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link
Jay-Z/Beyonce, right?
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
it's hard to imagine either of them working with a singer like chris brown in the first place, but yeah, maybe
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
pretty much every singer/rapper on urban radio the last couple years has worked with CB besides Jay and Beyonce. other than, like, a few male singers since they usually only collab with female singers on duets, and some older-skewing grown folks R&B acts and some rappers that haven't quite gone for that crossover money yet.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
haha I feel like sending a card to, say, Lady Antebellum that says "Thank you for not working with Chris Brown"
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
i'm thinking about producers too...
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
has timbo worked with him since the assault?
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
cause that dude will work with anybody so if he hasn't done a CB track it's likely because he doesn't want to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnx2sptelQw
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
the funnier Chris Brown news today is that he got called out for lipsyncing and characterized it 'me doing me'
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
"lemme get back to you, I have some tracks I need to lip-sync to in the studio"
okay, never mind re: timbo.
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
there's some semi prominent rappers who haven't yet worked with him... jeezy, waka, 2 chainz
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
he must be the only person on the planet 2 Chainz hasn't guested with
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Team Breezy is a pretty motley bunch, doing himself is probably the safest option.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNemkBDsfgc
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
I thought the thread was being revived because of this story:
http://jams.to/2012/05/22/chris-brown-bought-his-grammy.html
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
banner week
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
tbh no price is to high to secure the ultimate fuck off
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
omg hahahahahahaha
is it possible to live on Schadenfreude
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
that is AMAZING, hope it's true
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahahahahahahaha this story brings me levity
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
i don't see evidence of that statement anywhere. sorry everybody.
― maura, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
let us believe goddammit
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
keep digging maura we need this to be true
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
this is one instance where I will embrace the neocon philosophy of "if you assert it enough times, it will become true"
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
surely we can dig up some dirt on this squeaky clean public figure oh wait
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.posters57.com/images/The.jpg=600.jpg
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
haha I knew what that pic was before I clicked on it
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the fact that the only site that i've seen it on reports the story in fairly incomprehensible English and has a domain suffix associated with the island kingdom of Tonga gave me pause
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
It was posted on oh no they didn't, it has to be true!
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:52 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fwiw Jams.To is the website of record in Tonga
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
what's up w/this anti Tonga bias, their news is as good as the next guy's
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
plus i got this for christmas one year, good stuff:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2626/3974808026_9ae2440256.jpg
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
^ tonga ftr
getonga like me
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
Now Chris Brown is butthurt with oh no they didn't: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/69218710.html
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Is this damage control or are we being slightly unfair about a notoriously unapologetic sociopath?
The question of our times.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
that really is a great line.
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
the ONTD responses <3 <3 <3
don't fuck with those kids
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
they are seriously using cnn ireports as a 'source'
rip everything, someone turn out the lights before it's all over
― maura, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
ha, you believe in "journalism"
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
"Sweet Love" is possibly the worst thing ever.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 May 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link
I'm imagining him singing the Anita Baker song
― The Reverend, Thursday, 31 May 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5cxwk3m0l1qla1eto1_500.jpg
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
I just realized how fucked up it is that there's a song called "Another Round" where Chris Brown's lyrics don't make it clear whether the title phrase referring to the rekindling of an old relationship is a metaphor for 'another round' of drinks or another round in, say, a boxing match.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Sunday, 10 June 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
Haha xp.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 10 June 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
i just love him singing about blowing out her candles on birthday cake
― teledyldonix, Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Why? Cuz its a dick move?
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
"Birthday Cake" is such a hilariously incoherent mix of sexual metaphors, at one point Rihanna basically tells him to stick a candle up her ass and throw a stack of money at her boobs
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Monday, 11 June 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
just ate birthday CAKE CAKE CAKE CAKE
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Monday, 11 June 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
xp i was being sarcastic, that shit makes me switch the dial instantly
like idk, to me it sounds uncomfortably like he's threatening to kill her
― teledyldonix, Monday, 11 June 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
obv he should threaten to kill her in a comfortable way
I was thinking Drizzy was the only major star other than Jay & Bey who had resisted working with CB (apparently the collaboration that recently leaked was recorded before the domestic abuse incident) and well
http://globalgrind.com/entertainment/chris-brown-drake-fight-beef-meek-mill-rihanna-wip-new-york-photos-pictures
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
Drake was on the "Deuces" remix
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
oh word? i managed to go without ever hearing it. never mind then.
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. and that was even after Drake had been linked w/ Rihanna.
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
also the "yamaha mama" demo (lol)
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
oh wait n/m i see you mentioned that
not sure where i stand on this fight... of course i'm all for chris brown being attacked, but i can't determine if throwing bottles is extremely ham or a cop out
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
throwing bottles is not cool. Apparently some bystanders got injured too
― Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
it's so weird to have this daily soap opera playing out while "Take Care" and "Birthday Cake" etc. are all over the radio
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
reminds me of the 50/Game thing happening while "How We Do" and "Hate It Or Love It" were huge
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
Lol @ meek mill quoting shaggy
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:13 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
fingers crossed they kill each other
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
:D SMC
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
haha someone pointed out that CB apparently has coke nostril in that pic
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
that's a nose ring
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
oh ok
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
i find it hard to believe that chris brown has done cocaine
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
I have zero problem believing it
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
i should have ; )
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
there's a kinda salvador dali 'i do not take drugs: i am drugs' thing going on, wrt chris brown/cocaine
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
BREAKING
Chris Brown @chrisbrownMe and @MeekMill ain't on that bullshit. Real respect Real....
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
Roscoe Dash 2.0 @RoscoedashI gotta say Lost alota respect for @drake & @meekmill out of all the niggas who Dnt like yall y'all chose to retaliate against @chrisbrown
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
Meek Mill @MeekMill@Roscoedash you gotta chill b4 you b tweeting my name in some shit i wasn't even really in! Stay in ya lane!
it's amazing how bad CB can come off when trying to do a good thing
Chris Brown @chrisbrown
#HoulaMassacre raise awareness team breezy!
Chris Brown Chris Brown @chrisbrown
#HoulaMassacre OMG!!!!! Not cool!
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
probably shit but from tmz "Brown's friend was acting as if he was associated with a gang .... which is significant because Chris is not allowed to associate with gang members as part of his probation in the Rihanna beating case. "
hope it's true and he goes to jail.
― owenf, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but how many dumbasses throw up gang sign bullshit and aren't even close to being in a gang?
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Brown is never going to go to jail
well unless he kills somebody maybe
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm not holding my breath on that front but i do have faith that the fall cometh, in some form or other
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
Man, that's a chunk of face though.
― how's life, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
I don't even know how to react to this
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean everything going on with these people is just one big horrible neverending soap opera at this point. i don't know what i'm more afraid of, still hearing these clowns on the radio every day 5 years from now, or still having to hear about their little controversies.
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
there'll be a new set of petulant pop stars in 5 years. there always is.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
probably Bieber, Will Smith's kids, somebody British
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
if Bieber is still around in 5 years I'm gonna cry
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, June 15, 2012 2:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is one of my fav shakey mo posts in a while
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, June 15, 2012 2:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, you were the guy that said 3 years ago that CB would bounce back and be bigger than ever, and you were right.
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
oh I don't think Brown's gonna go away entirely, but the gaping mainstream media maw will just turn its ravenous attentions to feeding on a younger set once he's in his late 20s. as it always does when someone gets too old to appeal to the target demo.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
that guy's not going anywhere for the next few years. he still has his "I am an ADULT" phase to go through, and that will be where he really makes assloads of money/gets tons of exposure. that will last a couple years, people will argue some more about whether he should be taken "seriously" as an "artist", then he will get too old to appeal to either gay men or hysterical little girls, and his turn in the spotlight will be more or less over and he will have to find some new outlet like showing up on SNL all the time or racing sports cars or something.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
well the thing is now there's this weird ugly spiral of him being a bigger and bigger asshole, most people hating him more and more, and his fanbase feeling emboldened to champion even more, which makes his records bigger, which makes him act more entitled, etc etc etc. i suppose that cycle has to end at some point but it feels so self-perpetuating at the moment.
also where urban radio used to be really fickle and big stars would come and go in 2-3 years, now it feels like the same basic set of major stars has been going for the last 8 or so years straight with very minor changes in the lineup
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
bieber, willow smith and cher lloyd - PLEASE let shakey mo's prediction come true
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
hmmm yeah maybe the cycle's getting longer cuz the major labels are so much more risk-averse to promoting new acts
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
altho I dunno who are we talking about here besides Breezy - Rihanna, Gaga, Drake...? Gaga's really only been going for 5 years or so. Drake's been building up to his time in the spotlight for years what with the whole child-star-actor thing...
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
well i said 'urban radio' -- i was thinking mainly of the Jay/Kanye/Wayne/Usher/Beyonce/T.I. axis that's been dominant since '04 of earlier
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
well it's true I am sick of all those people
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
it is kind of weird for rappers to hang on as long as those guys have, I'm not sure what to attribute that to
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
investing in the status quo as a means of survival
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
I can see that. where does Rick Ross fit in
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
somewhat new member of the club, still ascending, but i almost feel like he's still symptomatic of the general atmosphere of the industry -- he just hung around for years doing the same thing over and over until people got used to it
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, June 15, 2012 2:46 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, also wanted to draw attention to this post
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
dr. dre presents
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/06/14/0614-aftermath-launch-2.jpg
― am0n, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
this is the future of ilx btw: a prodigy poster, pp's kids, someone british
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
pleasant plains is will smith?
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
trying to imagine ILX 20 years from now, populated with everyone's kids
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
as j0rdan predicted, i think there will still be a few who used to be on Prodigy
― da croupier, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
"POLL Tolhurst 3-D Interview!: Best Bonus Feature on Pornography 50th Anniversary Blu-chip"
― da croupier, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://p.twimg.com/AxyE8FWCIAAcqPq.jpg:large
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://static.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/529981_3809782557918_932289289_n.jpg
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/28/chris-brown-takes-no-homo-shot-at-frank-ocean-continues-to-be-the-absolute-pits/
forever charming.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
NO STARS EVER
is kind of awesome
― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/618251913.jpg
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/a83a89.jpg
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
That came out kind of small. It says, "Chris Brown hits women. Enough Said."
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
another take: http://ichlugebullets.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/chloe-papas-is-a-racist-and-a-hypocrite/
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol why would i EVER click on that and why would you EVER post it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
classic dom
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i'm sure this woman is far from a racist and i have no problem w/ anyone giving 'fortune' a zero of 5 stars but it's probably fair to question how she feels about the legitimacy of pop and/or r&b music in general based on that list
not that it really matters tho
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:09 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― heiswagger (rennavate), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i do think we owe it to ourselves to have our takedown heroes not write like 13-year old rockists, sorry chloe papas
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:07 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ban lex pretend
― MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
was mark e smith really a wifebeater?
― how's life, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
He was charged with assaulting Julie Nagle and had to do some time in rehab, i think, but he denies he ever hit her.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
didn't he try to stab one of the fall? but i think it was a guy
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
charged with domestic assault against girlfriend on tour in late '90s, he denied any physical violence
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
gonna try and abuse chris brown so much on twitter that he literally tries to kill me and goes to jail
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
Shame on his record co for putting $ before everything else
― calstars, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
they have sullied the good name of record companiesotm though
― , Blogger (schlump), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link
Can those of us who still listen to Warren Zevon albums despite his domestic violence refer to ourselves as Team Wheezy?
― how's life, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 10:11 (eleven years ago) link
Punch every sandwich
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^ currently singing this to the tune of "Climb Every Mountain"
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
this whole thing is so gross
http://www.thesuperficial.com/rihanna-chris-brown-kiss-vmas-video-photos-09-2012
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Forgive and forget! But most importantly: forget!
I was all "fuck that guy, and shame on the entertainment industry for welcoming him back with open arms" for the longest time. Then I read the actual police report and I was all "fuck that psychopath who's probably going to eventually wind up actually beating someone to death, and shame on the criminal justice system for not locking him up".
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
y'know after they've done songs together and she's told oprah she still loves him and on and on and on i don't know why people continue to whip themselves into a frenzy over the fact that rihanna doesn't hate chris or avoid him or whatever. it is what it is, for better or worse.
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
agreed
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
I just cant believe he keeps winning awards is all for me.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
whip themselves into a frenzy
aka taking 1 second to post glum messageboard posts, but thanks some dude it's important yr always there to make sure ppl are only caring the exact right amount about the exact right things
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really ride the 'celebrities should be role models' train, but it's super unfortunate that so much of the narrative that followed gave the implicit impression that what he did basically became water under the bridge at a certain point. It's depressing as hell on a personal level that Rihanna seems to be totally okay with him now, but it's even more depressing that there isn't any strong counter-narrative telling women that it's really not okay for people to do things like what Chris Brown did. You and I may say "well, duh" but I guarantee that there are women telling themselves that, if Rihanna's okay with Chris, then getting beat up is in some way acceptable.
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
If you’ve been on the Internet at all in the past 10 hours, you’ve probably had it screamed in your face that “OMG! Rihanna totally kissed Chris Brown at the VMAs!”
this kind of thing, from the link m@tt posted, is what i was referring to, as opposed to m@tt's post itself fyi
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity/pictures/chris-brown-gets-rihannas-beaten-face-tattooed-his-neck-must-be-joking64204
.......
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
okay, that is a stretch but close enough for me to o_O
remember when "Run It" came out and everyone was all "oh look at this nice young man, he wants to dance"
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
what is this i don't even
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
i mean SURELY it can't be real
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
but it looks like this has happened and I just...
its like if R Kelly got a tattoo of Calvin pissing on a Powerpuff Girl
― centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
Did he get Rob Liefeld to draw on his neck?
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
cool tat
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
To me, this seems weirdly akin to a serial killer taking a 'trophy' off of his victim's body.
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
ugh what a stupid motherfucker
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
this guy is sort of pathological huh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
Worst Human Ever
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
ok THIS is something to get whipped into a frenzy over
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
It's almost scarier to think that the resemblance actually was unintentional. "Oh, yeah, I guess it does kinda look like my ex-girlfriend's face did after I beat the shit out of her that one time. My bad."
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
how many girls on Twitter are going "he can tattoo my battered face on his neck any day of the week #teembreezy"
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Rihanna must be swooning
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
oh my god: http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/chris-brown-tattoos-battered-woman-s-face-1007946002.story#/column/the-juice/chris-brown-tattoos-battered-woman-s-face-1007946002.story
According to TMZ, sources close to Breezy's camp say the similarities are "purely coincidental," explaining, "It's a random woman.'" On August 30, This Chris Brown Blog posted a few photos of Chris Brown including one that shows the same tattoo, unfinished. Breezy rocked ink in the same area of his neck during the 2012 MTV VMAs on Thursday (Sept. 6), except the detailing couldn't be seen due to his attire
"that's someone else Chris beat all holy shades of fuck out of"
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
this guy is the gift that keeps on disappointing
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
be curious to hear what he thinks the picture is of
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
so how long til he kills rihanna
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
I guess the logical endpoint with all this is seeing him smooch Rihanna on his way to the stage to accept an Oscar for Beating RiRi. "I wanna thank the Academy, and I just wanna point out that this movie is about me beating up a completely different mouthy broad named RiRi."
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
Rihanna is so fucked up
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://thechrisbrownblog.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/chris-brown-new-neck-tattoo.jpg
Better photo clearly shows it to bea Dia de los Muertos sugar skull. This may be the only time EVER I play the capn-save-a-Chris-Brown role, but I think people are going nuts here.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
that's a photo of the unfinished tattoo
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
good call, its half skull half living face tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
which while not as bad as a beaten rhianna is certainly still interesting imagery for a man who has threatened to kill at least one woman
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, and here it is finished (?). Still seems to obviously be a sugar skull to me, which just means Chris Brown is a lame hipster:
http://www.holymoly.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_665w/wenn_chrisbrownrihannatattoo_11082012.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.holymoly.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_665w/wenn_chrisbrownrihannatattoo_11082012a.jpg
particularly you can see the lil curly que detail on the forehead
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
btw, whoever his tattoo artist is should give up. It's terrible work.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
half sugar skull / half living woman
Someone really beat up that sugar skull lady
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
let's keep in mind, though, that if you are a celebrity who rather famously has an incident in his past where he smacked the shit out of his girlfriend, it's an even worse idea than usual to get a tattoo of a woman's face with markings on it in places reminiscent of the bruising you left on your girlfriend's face
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Nobody's saying here (or anywhere else) that Chris Brown is intelligent. He's barely functional.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/1rihsmall.jpg
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
johnny that is definitely a face with skin on it, not a skull
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3prfRbezz10/UBiAUh8VFGI/AAAAAAAAAAA/DOy0Q4ETqa8/s400/oopsWM%2B%282%29.jpg
never forget
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
You're familiar with a sugar skull, right? It's actually a face with paint on it:
http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/moori/moori1201/moori120100271/12516718-a-woman-with-her-face-painted-as-a-traditional-day-of-the-dead-sugarskull-mask.jpg
Anyway, Chris Brown is a moron. The tattoo is of a half normal/half sugar-skulled woman which may or may not (but probably is) his sick homage to his own handiwork.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
which means... the points being made in this thread still stand and you're making a wholly specious objection
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
oh come on it was a good catch! i have not seen this sugar skull info anywhere else
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, I was just reacting to people saying it was a tattoo of a battered woman and it isn't one. Whether or not it's a tattoo that's a metaphor for a battered woman (which it likely is) is different.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
it's self-evident that the markings on the face aren't ACTUAL bruise marks and scars; the point is that the face is crudely reminiscent of Rihanna's and many of the markings are in places where he fucked up her face, which is fucking disturbing and even more so if it was "coincidence"
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Chris brown is like a really poorly characterized villain in an 80s cop show, he's just too obviously awful.
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think big takeaway for Chris Brown is that he needs to stop patronizing luxury merchants who hate him
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
I'm fully willing to believe that Chris Brown is dumb enough to be talked into this. Whether or not it was his idea, I think we can all agree on what it means. I was just pointing out what it isn't.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
this new development is pretty surreal
― dayo, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
CHRIS BROWN [Started by jergins (jergins) in July 2006, last updated Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:19 PM by dayo on I Love Music] 53 new answersMore Dave Sim Batshittery. [Started by Austin Still (Austin, Still) in August 2005, last updated Tuesday, September 11, 2012 4:19 PM by Andrew Farrell on I Love Comics] 16 new answers
seeing these two threads next to each other made me wonder if Dave Sim could get his career back on track by doing a fictionalized account of the wacky adventures of Chris Brown
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I totally got that it was intended to be half a Dia De Los Muertos skull. But that realization didn't exactly trigger a "Whew!" response in me.
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder if this is some sort of "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? DOES THIS MAKE YOU HAPPY??" cry to the public
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
LOLWUT http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.21102/title.chris-browns-publicist-says-neck-tattoo-depicts-mac-cosmetic-design?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
haha that tattoo artist totally fucked him over
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:43 PM (2 hours ago)
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
So, wait, Brown tweeted a link to a Perez Hilton item that pointed out that it looks like RiRi? Firmly back in the "fuck this guy" camp. He's not that stupid, just pathological.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Seeing as this was the tattoo artist's idea, I am half-seriously wondering of dude came at Chris Brown with this design specifically so he could tattoo so etching reminiscent of a battered woman's face onto Brown's body
I mean, no obv, but the idea is making me lol a lot
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
The idea of anyone getting a tattoo of a mac makeup chart is making me lol.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:09 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That was my first thought too. "I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY OF MY LIFE YOU KNOW!!!!?!?!!"
― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
chris brown's tattoo artist trolled him so hard
― dayo, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
Everything about this tattoo just raises more questions; Rev's link says the artist brought it to Brown, but its EW source says Brown brought it to the tattoo artist. WE DEMAND ANSWERS
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
btw nothing is more disgusting that internet rumor sites
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
than
Maybe he'll get this one next:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Zlpo4c9hAdQ/SrrzI_OH4WI/AAAAAAAAAhs/o60a_y3sDGQ/s400/Glam+Rocker+-+Halloween.JPG
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
That MAC illustration is total amateur hour. Beyond all of the other implications, why would anyone get something that ugly and lame tattooed on their neck?!
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
We're talking about Chris Brown and a terribly untalented tattoo guy here.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, true. Plus, the second I posted that, I remembered: it's a neck tattoo. Kinda self-explanatory.
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
We've got stop trying to make sense of this.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
A quick GIS for 'neck tattoo' unveils an even richer world of horror than what I would've imagined.
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
The artist actually isn't bad, it turns out. http://petertattooist.tumblr.com/
Maybe Chris wouldn't sit still.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
I’m an artist and this is art. Dia de los Muertos.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
message to chris?
http://petertattooist.tumblr.com/post/31002446871/peterkoskela-weareallone-taken-with-instagram
― OK CLARABELLE PART 3: The Return of the MOO! (how's life), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Christine Nangle @nanglishI like to think Lisbeth Salander tied Chris Brown to a bed and gave him that tattoo.
any distinctions made over what the tattoo actually depicts are irrelevant; it's not coincidentally reclaiming the swastika as a big fan of eastern mysticism, it's not a birthmark that happens to share some similarities with something unfortunately ironic, it's something he elected to represent which 110% coincides with the first-line-of-his-obituary public perception with him. there is just no wiggle room, any more than "oh no it's just four L shapes at ninety degree angles!" would change one's perception of a swastika.
― very sexual album (schlump), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, yeah, for sure. "Guys, it's not Rihanna! It's just a representation of how I see all women! Sheesh!"
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
i just love that his tattoos are edging ever closer to his face -- crossing fingers that he gets YOLO tatted across the bridge of his nose
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
"hey Chris can I celebrate your amazing run of chart singles by tattooing HITS on your forehead?"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
― Tim F, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Brown, America's super creepy rich version of Mr. Cool Ice
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 September 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol cool ice
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dojkjfhfkloklnmbdlocgfkonkmaocca
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
I have that application installed, this thread is now about ###########
― would smash pumpkins (Ówen P.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://exclaim.ca/News/chris_brown_albums_defaced_with_this_man_beats_women_stickers?&utm_source=TwitterEN&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ENTwitter
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Nice.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 September 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
is it really tho
― bugler, Friday, 14 September 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
that is fantastic
― wtf where's my chapbook (DJP), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
chris brown beat up that website
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
Apparently so.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 14 September 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/chris-brown-fails-pot-test-probation-rihanna?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
this basically confirms that he's not doing anything he could overdose on, huh?
― how's life, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
bummers
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
I hate his guts too, but wishing death? Stay classy...
― Cousin Slappy, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 08:11 (eleven years ago) link
Stay classy Cousin Slappy
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry i made a dark joke about a celebrity. I guess pot makes as much sense re: Bad Life Choices as the hard stuff does.
― how's life, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEALkNCv4og
this. fuckin. guy.
― some dude, Friday, 5 October 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
should we take bets on how long before they're married
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 October 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not trying to be a player. I'm not trying to be a ... dog.
― how's life, Friday, 5 October 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
I just care too much sometimes.
― some dude, Friday, 5 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Some of those comments...Chris brown fans are the worst.
― omar little, Friday, 5 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
damn chris is sad
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
messed up lil dude
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 October 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
haha that was really not my takeaway
― some dude, Friday, 5 October 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
was kinda hoping he'd pull over and beat a homeless guy with a crowbaris that wrong?
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 October 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://jezebel.com/5952124/idiot-students-in-blackface-reenact-chris-brown-beating-rihanna-at-worst-pep-rally-ever
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/182c5wk32ahg4jpg/original.jpg
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
Should it have been done for a pep rally? Probably not.
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
WHAT THE FUCK
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
awfulness begetting awfulness, ughhhh
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
are him and riri back together?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
I don't understand white people who think blackface is no big deal.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Also, white people who think "whiteface" is an equivalent offense.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
pep rallies should be abolished, nothing good ever comes out of a pep rally
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
you get to miss class
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
jordan can i see your hall pass?
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
average americans don't have any concept of what blackface is, let along have any understanding of it being offensive.
― nose, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
welcome nose!!!
― We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
Brownface
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 07:03 (eleven years ago) link
i had some people i know try to convince me that blackface isn't offensive this weekend... ugh
― heiswagger (rennavate), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
According to at least one commenter on CNN's iReport, a white student portrayed Tiger Woods in a sketch at last year's pep rally, but it was "actually very classy."
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
classy blackface? oxymoron to end oxymorons no?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
maybe the kid playing Tiger was also wearing a top hat
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/182c4zs6gtxa3jpg/original.jpg
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
heh, this happened like 30 minutes from where i went to high school
― jon and kate catch h8 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
A WHITE girl then came out with a golf club.
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
you know, who would be a better judge of what is and isn't racially insensitive than "redskin1"
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
tbf doesn't sound like the tiger one was in blackface
― jon and kate catch h8 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol my mom just called me about this
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 October 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.avclub.com/articles/chris-brown-continued-his-asshole-performance-art,88220/
― sug ones (omar little), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
what an asshole
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
you know, in spite of all the things that Chris Brown has done as a person, there's still little that makes me angrier, than, say, seeing him wear this outfit while singing "with you I had a bad romance" over a "Human Nature" sample
http://www.justcurious.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Screen-shot-2011-05-02-at-22.45.42.png
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
I've managed to not hear any song from the new album in its entirety.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
the urban radio singles hadn't been doing well as the ones off the previous album but one of the pop songs just creeped into the top 10 of the hot 100 :(
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
every time it's come on the radio I've switched stations without fail
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
"Sweet Love" is an okayish Polow jam but you're not really missing anythign
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
he is such a colossal failure as a human being
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
one of his songs starts with the line "turn up the music 'cause this song just came on" and i've never made it past that line without switching the station, it's really just asking for it
― teledyldonix, Friday, 2 November 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.aux.tv/2012/09/never-read-about-chris-brown-again-with-our-chris-brownout-browser-plugin/
― Judah Ben Ghazi (how's life), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://stupiddope.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Dum-English-Toy-Collection.jpg
hideous Chris Brown-designed figurines that apparently sell for thousands of dollars
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol oops
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_J2kj4-9XBZk/SlNzwG_eI4I/AAAAAAAAAhU/_7EjVar6bJY/s400/oopsWM+(2).jpg
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
a possibly homeless woman told me I looked like him and it kind of bummed me out :/
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
it wasn't taken as the compliment she intended it as
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPtjcT1t64I
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 November 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
that's funny in context, but i had seen the second half of that sketch when i tuned in after the episode had started, and i had no idea that's who they were supposed to be impersonating.
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Saturday, 24 November 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/chris-brown-attacks-producercomedian-jenny-johnso
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 25 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
essentially the ilx back-and-forth
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
That's a rather sensationalistic headline for a story that just showcases boilerplate Chris Brown dickholery. But the story is welcome inasmuch as it fortifies my image of CB as a thoroughly repellant human being.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
no winners, all around
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
I wish ill on this asshole
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like a potential song title to me
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:44 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, smug pedantic white ppl who correct black people on the spelling of slang words are p much the worst people on earth imho
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahahaha
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
also saying "i hope your mom is proud of you" w/o knowing about the existence of @MOMBREEZY is a bit regrettable
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
lol whiney really - if somebody says to a woman "take your teeth out when you sucking my dick HOE" then it's smug pedantry to say "it's HO not HOE you ignorant fuck"?
really, dude?
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know, if I interpreted her tweets correctly, her main issue is clearly with black people and the way they communicate.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
CHRIS BROWN IS TEARING US APART
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
DIAL 911 NOW
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
(Waiting for Whiney to pedantically call me out for misquoting a song by his favorite guitarist.)
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
it's a joke in your town
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
mom says hello... She told me not to shart in ur mouth, wanted me to shit right on the retina, ....#pinkeye
― buzza, Monday, 26 November 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
i think chris brown & i have different understandings of the word shart
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i do love wyclef
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiNRIR8tjFc
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch)
yeah 'I have zero respect for a person who seems unapologetic for the terrible crime he committed and shows no signs of changing.' - totally about racist pedantry. lol @ aero for being surprised at the goon squad being totally behind a repeat offender threatening violent assault against a woman, have you never read any of whiney's posts before?
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
"mom, do i have any clean sharts?"
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
have you never read any of whiney's posts before?
am I obligated to answer this
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
Get some help. Seriously. RT @chrisbrown: Just ask Rihanna if she mad??????
https://twitter.com/JennyJohnsonHi5/status/272876629963980800
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 26 November 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
ALL OVER THE TWEETSY WEETSIES
― buzza, Monday, 26 November 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
favstar bot going hard in the @ paint
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
for the record i hadn't actually read the article when i posted and i don't agree w/ whiney. though now that i have, i'm not sure threatening to shart on someone exactly qualifies as threatening violent assault. and as jordan correctly notes, sharting is by definition an embarrassment to the sharter as well as the sharted
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
actually starting to think that "just ask rihanna if she mad" is a valid point at this point
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
also chris brown deleted (or deactivated) his entire twitter
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ j0rdan buying into 'if hitting her was so wrong how come she w/ me now?' defense. good squad never disappoints.
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
*strokes chin*
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
the next time he hurts her she will most likely be secretive about it so he doesn't have to go through such a terrible ordeal again.
― estela, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
so he doesn't have to go through such a terrible ordeal again.
― estela, Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:04 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark
or she
This is the smartest thing I've seen from Team Breezy in years
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure it's temporary
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
like a bruise amirite
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, November 26, 2012 2:58 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dude no
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
not from the standpoint of "was beating rihanna alright?" of course, but just in terms of whether or not people should be continued to be outraged over her having a relationship with him
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not sure threatening to shart on someone exactly qualifies as threatening violent assault. ― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, November 26, 2012 2:57 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah you know he said he'd fart on her while she blew him but he never said he'd MAKE her do it, good point. And who knows maybe the face shitting would be consensual too?
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
not from the standpoint of "was beating rihanna alright?" of course, but just in terms of whether or not people should be continued to be outraged over her putting herself in a position to be beaten again
fixed that for you
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
the whole thing is just incredibly tiring, the constant feedback loop of people flipping out over them trolling the public and on and on
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
feels like real life example of old atwood quote 'men are afraid that women will laugh at them, women are afraid that men will kill them', only according to team breezy/goon squad the former fear is the only one that's legit.
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ constant feedback loop of people flipping out over them trolling the public and on and on being the abuse cycle j0rdan's concerned about here
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:10 PM (58 seconds ago)
sure, i mean, whatever, i guess it's not my place to even joke about it
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
^latter part of that was serious
imagine the call breezy's publicist got this afternooni am imagining itit is making me feel warm and happy
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
i deliberately left her ordeal out, i doubt it has ever registered with him and if she's back with him i think her assessment of it must be skewed as well. it's horribly confusing to be harmed by someone you love, and you have to reduce the cognitive dissonance somehow, so you focus on your own controllable behaviour instead of the other unpredictable party's and tailor your future dealings accordingly. that is why "just ask rihanna if she mad" has no currency.
― estela, Monday, 26 November 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
Breezy's Bart Simpson sheets
― Artie Bucco Type on Drums (Eazy), Monday, 26 November 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
"Dis n*****...#BartObsessed."
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
balls really throwing a lot of people under the bus that have nothing to do with this. i really don't appreciate having it implied that i'm an avid defender of chris brown or a misogynist because i post about rap on ilx.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
i really don't appreciate having it implied that i'm an avid defender of chris brown or a misogynist because i think someone went after fucking asshole chris brown in a lame and kinda racist way
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
the company you keep etc etc
you can turn in your goon badge over there
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
oh man I thought whiney's first post was actually a joek but now he's doubled down
He (CB) did lose the fight when he switched HOE to HO after she corrected him.
― Artie Bucco Type on Drums (Eazy), Monday, 26 November 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
I do have to say that, despite the one (1) suspect tweet, props to Jenny for getting Breezy to go batshit enough enough today to completely explode his twitter
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
whiney vs. smug pedantry of white people
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 26 November 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link
that was a rad post estela
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Monday, 26 November 2012 05:52 (eleven years ago) link
i should know better than to trust weird twitter, but when i saw chris brown was trending i believed this could be true for a good thirty seconds
http://i46.tinypic.com/2rddh80.jpg
― sad faces at Terror Castle (reddening), Monday, 26 November 2012 06:43 (eleven years ago) link
as a guy who, as a child, had the pleasure of being moved back into the home of the person who abused himself & his mom, I cannot fucking believe that there are still people in the world who say shit like this
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link
I mean I know they're out there, I'm on the internet, but J0rdan, that was a hateful, disgusting thing to say, and you should be ashamed of yourself for it, straight up.
but hey all that goes out the window when there's a phantom charge of racism
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
Don't you know you're only allowed to correct a psychopathic douchebag's misspelling of a misogynistic comment if he's the same color as you? And I really think it's time that we accept Rihanna's Stockholm Syndrome as the tacit statement of Chris Brown's inherent goodness that it is.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 November 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, November 26, 2012 5:00 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
fair enough -- i guess the way i look at it, i just don't see what good is being done at this point by, for instance, comedians harassing chris brown for an entire year on twitter. i don't feel bad for chris brown, of course, nor do i think that he should be free of being reminded how much of a horrible asshole he is, but with the turn that their relationship has taken lately, it just feels like to me like the tone of the entire conversation around his abuse is doing more harm than anything if people out there genuinely care about the well being of rihanna (in some instances, i doubt this). clearly, years of hectoring chris brown has had the opposite effect on both of them -- she's back with him and writing songs called "nobody's business" and he's become an even more gross person. obviously there are other factors at work -- inherent ones, surely -- but the public's attempts at driving a wedge between the two of them has -- at least in part -- brought them back together. and i guess i sometimes feel like it would be the best if people writ large realized that it's out of the public's hands -- if she wants to be with him right now there are things that people that are actually in her life can do (or try to do), but things the public clearly cannot do. so maybe people should stop trying. i dunno, maybe that's totally off base.
also on a related note, the entire culture of constantly shaming chris brown on twitter has irked me for a while. part of it is that i have suspicions that for some people it's pretty self-serving (favstar bot congratulates you on your 250 star tweet etc), but i also get that twitter allows people to get out very real anger directly to chris brown and that's totally valid. that said, i guess if people truly would like to see a reformed chris brown, i'm not sure that calling him a piece of shit on twitter for an entire year is helping that happen in any way. nor has the tone of that rhetoric helped influence the opinions & minds of team breezy breezy who defend chris brown to the death, mostly teenagers (and mostly women, i think) who could find (or already have found) themselves in rihanna's position. so even in terms of furthering positive discussions about domestic abuse, i think it's completely and utterly failing if not, again, having the opposite intended effect.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
that said, i guess if people truly would like to see a reformed chris brown, i'm not sure that calling him a piece of shit on twitter for an entire year is helping that happen in any way.
this is putting the cart before the horse - you don't get the benefit of a doubt before you actually start acting contrite, remorseful, changed in the way you comport yourself in public
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ OTM
Unless of course you believe that wearing a $350K gold chain that says "OOPS!" in cartoon letters is a genuine act of contrition
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
sure. i guess the fact that they're celebrities really complicates the matter just in terms of what role the public has or should have or "deserves" to have.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
To be honest, most of my vitriol is aimed at a criminal justice system that let CB basically get away with attempted murder (read the police report if you haven't already) and an entertainment industry that welcomed that li'l rascal back into the fold with open arms after the heinous thing he did. My reaction to the whole situation is similar to the one I had after a rapist and murderer was recently released after only serving 20 years and subsequently moved back to my college town: I'm hesitant to demonize someone who's served their time, but I also think, to the extent that it might save a life, it's socially responsible to keep that narrative from being forgotten.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
but the public's attempts at driving a wedge between the two of them has -- at least in part -- brought them back together.
don't think this is necessarily the case -- remember they were chilling at Diddy's house together less than a month after the incident. and the remixes last year came out the same month that the restraining order was lifted. so i think their time apart was purely for PR/legal reasons and they were never really on the outs (other than briefly when, like, she unfollowed him on twitter for a while because he called her a slut on a horrible freestyle).
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
well substitute "even closer together" then or something. i don't think that the role of the public has had a null effect.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
xp You're being ridiculous Whiney. Responding to an idiot's abuse on Twitter by mocking the spelling is tactic #1. It may be a cheap shot but it's not race-specific.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
it's socially responsible to keep that narrative from being forgotten.
otm - especially when there are such strong forces (the entertainment industry) attempting to elide the narrative with a more palatable doomed-romance one. j0rdan, little of what you say is strictly wrong but you're looking at way too narrow a frame - if it was as simple as attempting to stop rihanna specifically from dating chris brown specifically, sure, it's beyond our power and tut-tutting at them from afar is a bad look. but when i say that shrugging your shoulders and acting like we should move on is an abdication of responsibility, i'm not talking about your responsibility to rihanna - i'm talking about our collective responsibility on domestic violence. going along with the narrative rihanna, chris brown and def jam are flogging is to be complicit in it, and you're deluding yourself if you think just shrugging your shoulders about it is an adequate response
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
also if the public has brought them together it's because they've seen that their fans haven't deserted them to the extent that collaborating with each other is commercial suicide. i don't really feel like the disapproving voices are in the majority, here.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
and sure, constantly yelling at anyone over twitter is not a good look (though what the hell do you expect from COMEDIANS aka the scum of the earth and the lowest worms) - but really the people i wanna lock in a room and yell at forever are the people at def jam, everyone in the INDUSTRY who allowed it to happen
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Also, fuck Chris Brown
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is totally true... i just wonder if goading chris brown into a fight on twitter is the best way at keeping the larger narrative (not simply that chris brown is a legendary douche) alive.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure chris brown was the victim in that exchange
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
hmm, good point, dayo. i'll have to consider that.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
i just wonder if goading chris brown into a fight on twitter is the best way at keeping the larger narrative (not simply that chris brown is a legendary douche) alive.
well no it's not, but if your response to it is to snark about how ineffective it is, that's not exactly keeping the larger narrative alive, and it often comes across - not nec you here - as effectively saying "it's pointless doing/saying anything about this situation because it won't stop her going back to him"
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
there is nothing about the chris brown story that doesn't depress me
― "Hahahaha, nice one, Punchy," I said. (stevie), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
appreciate the word J0rdan I get emotional about this subject, thanks for hearing me.
I leave Chris Brown the hell alone on Twitter, nothing to be gained/improved by taking shots, but I think comedians - and plenty of other people with fewer followers whose attacks on him don't raise an eyebrow - are partly launching shots because it feels good to say to a person who'd beat a woman YOU ARE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT NO MATTER HOW FAMOUS YOU ARE while being far enough away from him to not get hit. Watching him melt down and quit Twitter? Knowing somebody made this dick feel bad enough to tantrum off, and that he couldn't lay hands on anybody about it? I'm for that; I get some vicarious relief to think a guy who beat up his girlfriend is stewing in his own anger. Some of my political follows cite white people who they think got a pass for spousal abuse (Charlie Sheen, Bill Murray, John Lennon), and there's for sure something to that, but I think you'd need internet-age analogies for that to hold, and iirc when Oksana went in on Mel that drama was aired out loud on all the gossip sites. (Not enough for my tastes though, fuck Mel Gibson.) I don't doubt that racists are delighted to have another excuse to hate on a black entertainer but I think the single biggest motivating factor in people hating on Chris Brown is 1) he is a worthless asshole and 2) it feels good, really good, to be able to "yell" at a person like that where they can't hit you, even if you don't know them personally. It feels good collectively to be able to do that in a safe environment, where you can be heard without having to bear consequences other than more people "yelling" back at you.
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
B-b-b-bill Murray?
― how's life, Monday, 26 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
wait, Bill Murray?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
huh, I didn't even know he was divorced, let alone that there were allegations of domestic violence
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still getting used to the idea that thanks to social media the public can take for granted its engagement/interest in a star's life – hell, following a star's Twitter account is beyond my comprehension (lol I'm old). Where ten years ago the psychodrama of Chris Brown-Rihanna would have unfolded in supermarket glossies, now we get to respond directly. Either way, it's making it even more difficult to criticize their work without condemning their lives.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
I know the idea of Being A Star, even if you were Clara Bow or whoever, is not having a private life at all but still
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol when Mel went in on Oksana, that should say above
yeah Bill Murray. Which as it turns out is internet-era stuff that did not get a whole lotta play media-wise, and that's pretty ill. Chris Brown was arrested, which makes a good deal of difference I think, but it is kinda icky that a star as big as Bill Murray can be accused of threatening to kill his wife and nobody really hears about it.
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
(Alfred, Madonna changed stardom. Stardom is now explicitly about choosing to not have a private life.)
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
Liz Taylor.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
I have no sympathy for any famous person taking shit on Twitter for being horrible because there is absolutely nothing that says they have to be on Twitter or that they need to use it to air their personal lives.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really think anyone "forced" chris brown off the internet; i think his team pulled him off because he was publicly making an ass of himself repeatedly and it was counterproductive to him making everyone money which IMO is the only reason this guy still exists as a public figure.
Also how odd that all the names in aero's example are white and chris brown is a young black male HOW STRANGE HOW OBVIOUSLY RACIST as the argument goes and while that's still true and valid I can't help but feel that CB's continued blatant assholery has something to do with him falling in a sliver of time when he and his supporters can point to that fact as "proof" that he's being inordinately prosecuted rather than just acknowledging dude is a fool
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
yes, how odd that aero, when making the point that people often argue that white people get a pass on this type of shit, would list a bunch of white guys
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
<3
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
that was all in heavy quotation marks of concern dan, just don't know the emoticon for thati suppose i do know the punctuationbut i just woke up so
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
He was posting Sunday late afternoon here, which means late night in Germany, where he was. I like to picture a 300-pound bodyguard stepping on CB's iPhone on Rob Light's orders.
― Artie Bucco Drummer Type (Eazy), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
This whole story is just so played-out/tiresome/frustratingly unchangeable... I feel the same scorn for chris brown & sadness/compassion for rihanna that any sane person does, but nothing provokes my ire like hearing one of his songs on the radio, or learning that an artist I like (lookin at you, Busta Rhymes) has agreed to collaborate with the scumbag. I get that there are market forces at work here, and all that breezy money is hard to pass up 'in this economy', but I still wish more people within the industry (note to twitter comedians: THIS DOESN'T MEAN YOU) were willing to take a principled stand. In the meantime, I will continue to imagine that chris brown is rotting in prison somewhere, and to try to put as much distance as possible between his music and my ears.
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
it's totally true and awful that plenty of respected famous white men have had the kind of free pass for domestic violence that chris brown hasn't had, and whether that's due to their era or their race or both, it's a reason to call them out louder and harder as well, not to go easy on CB
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, November 26, 2012 9:45 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think that for most ppl 'accused' is different than 'obviously did it with photographic evidence'
not that im inclined to disbelieve or anything, but the pictures make the rihanna situation that much more visceral
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
In June 1987, Madonna went to the Cedars Sinai hospital for an X-ray after Penn apparently hit her across the head with a baseball bat. At the time, they had been having a heart-to-heart talk about reconciling.Madonna did not make an official complaint because Penn was about to serve a short jail term for attacking a film extra. He served 33 days of a 60-day sentence in the Los Angeles County jail (23 hours a day in solitary) for violating the probation he'd been given for punching a fan.He was released into his wife's arms, only for her to throw him out of a taxi a few hours later after yet another set-to.Their violent arguments were exhausting for everyone, but Madonna hesitated to admit that the marriage had failed. Though she saw lawyers about getting a divorce, she hung on for a full year to see if it could be saved.It was a decision she would come to regret. In the late afternoon of December 28, 1989, Penn scaled the wall surrounding the Malibu house and found Madonna alone in the master bedroom.According to a report filed by Madonna with the Malibu sheriff's office, the two began to quarrel. Penn told her he owned her 'lock, stock and barrel'.When she told him she was leaving the house, he tried to bind her hands with an electric lamp and cord. Screaming and afraid, Madonna fled from the bedroom. What followed was a nine-hour ordeal which left her deeply shaken.Penn chased her into the living room, caught her and bound her to a chair with heavy twine. Then he threatened to cut off her hair. According to the police report, Penn was 'drinking liquor straight from the bottle' and the abuse went on for several hours, during which time he smacked and roughed up his victim.He went out to buy more alcohol, leaving Madonna bound and gagged. Some hours later, he returned and continued his attacks.Madonna said that he untied her after she agreed to perform a degrading sex act on him. She then fled the house and ran to her car.Penn ran after her and was banging on the windows of her Thunderbird while she spoke to police on her mobile phone. Fifteen minutes later, she staggered into the sheriff's office.Lieut Bill McSweeny said: 'I hardly recognised her as Madonna. She was weeping, her lip was bleeding and she had obviously been struck.'Penn was taken away in handcuffs and charged with inflicting 'corporal injury and traumatic conditions' on her, as well as committing 'battery'.A week later, Madonna called her lawyers and told them to file divorce papers. Yet she also told Deputy District Attorney Lauren Weiss she wished to withdraw the assault charges against her husband.The problem was not the publicity - the scandal was in all the papers. It seems she just couldn't bear to see Penn thrown into jail. She still believed that he was the love of her life, and she tortured herself wondering to what extent she was to blame for the abuse.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
xxp lex otm
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
Saying "chris brown would've gotten away with it if he were white!" is stupid, the whole point is that HE DID GET AWAY WITH IT. smh
― you don't know james blunt's "you're beautiful" (bernard snowy), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
i think there's truth to the demonization of chris brown because of his race, but there are def other factors (photos, social media etc) that have played into it
wtf @ that sean penn thing tho that's fucking insane
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
back to what aero said, i totally feel that. i guess i'm mostly just frustrated personally by the whole thing because i do think it's healthy for people to express their anger at chris brown directly and like you said in a safe environment but i still can't shake the increasing toxicity of the situation and whatever the public's continued role in it is
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
I know Madonna was beaten (c/o "Til Death Do Us Part") but wau @ those details
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
uhhh what, the details of that Sean Penn story are all news to me. Fuck all this
― a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
ditto and ditto
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
Jesus fucking Christ Sean Penn forcing Madonna to blow him before he'll let her leave the house. Kill yourself Sean Penn
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
XPpost: ' i have suspicions that for some people it's pretty self-serving (favstar bot congratulates you on your 250 star tweet etc)'
To me, that sounds like absolute craziness...though I did have a splitsecond plan to start an account that somehow niggled CB to the point that he threatened to kill me over Twitter and got arrested or something. Alas my chance has gone.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
I was reading a little about the shit phil spector did to ronnie over the weekend, pretty fucking evil man
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
can we take a moment to bask in the unintentional comedy inherent in niggling Chris Brown
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
To me, that sounds like absolute craziness
obv i don't know of anyone's direct intentions so maybe it's specious on my part but at the very least there are comedians for whom zinging celebrities on twitter is one of the main ways of boosting their personal brand. one major example of this is rob delaney and another just so happens to be jenny johnson, who links to her own favstar account in her twitter profile which shows a number of tweets directed at kim kardashian (and chris brown!) that all have multiple thousands of retweets and favorites. now, i'm sure jenny johnson's anger towards chris brown is very real but it no doubt helps her career for her to play this role. (for instance, she can pitch articles to grantland http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/39222/an-open-letter-to-kim-kardashian-and-chris-brown)
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
sidebar but jenny johnson's hounding of kim kardashian based solely because she had the gall to make a sex tape is pretty gross!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
while im not really on board w/ j0's overall argument here i think he does raise an interesting point re: the self-serving righteousness industry that is brought up in an interesting way here (nb i haven't thought through my own feelings on it yet but it was interesting reading)
http://willystaley.tumblr.com/post/36574794140/only-the-internet-could-compel-me-to-feel-sorta-bad-for
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
Cheers for the link Jordan, realized I was being a bit flippant there.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
'self-serving righteousness industry' is kind of a good descriptor of ilx tbrr
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
you take that back, my righteousness serves everybody
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
the soothing balm it provides me is an unintended side-effect
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Monday, November 26, 2012 12:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wait im supposed to be paid for this??
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, November 26, 2012 1:55 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no she is completely above reproach because chris brown
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/JennyJohnsonHi5/status/272150337773793281
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
another "what in the FUCK at that Madonna / Penn story" over here
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
everyone in the world is an asshole, let's move on
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
goon squad going full tucker carlson on jenny johnson - you'll find something guys! show her who's boss!
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
come on now
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
forks gets it
tbrr she could be tweeting the word "nigger" 24/7 and I would still say that she is 100% correct in the case of Chris Brown
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
Whiney you could find out that she's in the KKK and it wouldn't change the fact that you staked your claim on the racism of correcting someone's spelling
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
wonder if anyone can find whiney going ott on twitter attacking any female or black artists for something as innocuous as releasing an album in a genre he doesn't like.
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
generally speaking i'm actually cool with being compared to tucker carlson if it means i'm not defending someone who has a "pro account" on favstar.fm
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
I heard jenny johnson was actually born in kenya - has anyone seen her birth certificate???
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
why do you always immediately jump to getting personal with me, balls?
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
a question asked by many a man
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
well, it was a step up from posting "Why are you always on my dick, balls?" hahaha
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
misogynist, buffoon, webzine editor, troll, someone who's given up all semblance of being a contributing member of humanity to be a professional 'internet personality' (and in yr off hours as well), flagbearer for dead genres and renowned domestic abusers - take yr pick!
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
also noting you have around 8 twitter profiles devoted to letting the girl from cults know she's nothing more than a "dumb bitch" in yr eyes hardly seems personal, sure there's more to you than that right
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
congrats on your 100-star tweet
https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/273134866596495361
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
thank you, anonymous internet hardman, but I think I've pretty much said "Fuck Chris Brown" like 300 times in this thread and many others.
and i've never tweeted the words "dumb bitch" to anyone?
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
plus, yknow on a more personal tip, once upon a time there were actually fun hip-hop threads on ilx whereas now there's circle jerks and pun sessions between the usual gang of wannabe freelance tucker carlsons
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
whiney you complaining about "anonymous internet hardman" is a bit much don't you think, this shit's basically on yr business cards (or at least the bio section for two of yr twitter profiles).
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
I had no idea rob delaney is balls
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
I literally have no idea what this refers to and you're probably thinking of someone else?
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
The only twitter profiles I have is my regular one and the one for my comedy tumblr, I have no idea where you're getting all this?
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
the chris brown disease taking over this thread. don't let it happen ppl.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
rip WhineyArea51
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
also what kind of man keeps coming back to a site he's been banned from multiple (and not like two or three) times and during the interim sets up twitter accounts to whine about it? what type of man revels in this and shrouds himself in it as his professional persona, like one of the freaks howard stern brings on his show? apparently the same kind of man who thinks it's worse for a woman to correct a man's spelling than it is for a man to beat the living shit out of a woman and will attack anyone who doesn't think the same. tbf it's better than having tucker carlson as a role model.
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
apparently the same kind of man who thinks it's worse for a woman to correct a man's spelling than it is for a man to beat the living shit out of a woman and will attack anyone who doesn't think the same.
yeah this is exactly what i was saying, come on, man
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
wait are you being pedantic now whiney? surely not that!
― balls, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Dude, I've said fuck Chris Brown 7,000,000,000 times. I figured it went without saying.
― DJ Admiral Crackbar - IT'S THE TRAP!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
maybe christ brown suffers from dyslexia
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Christ Brown!
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
that is truly a terrifying thought
the fuck guys.time out.
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Still they got him like jesus
― buzza, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
hahahah what
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
... great ... tempban ...
...
is this forks testing balls on his own theory that people shouldn't return to ilx after having been banned multiple times
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Monday, November 26, 2012 7:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll take that.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
tbf balls did pine for old-ilx, why shouldn't forks pull a graham
― da croupier, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
this is forks testing his theory that people don't need to be assholes to each other on the internet
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
ilx fights are like if, instead of joker taunting batman with "admit it, you're just like me!" batman ran after joker screaming "admit it, i'm better than you!"
― da croupier, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
first stupidDOPE, now balls.
― how's life, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm yelling posts from this thread out of my car window
― buzza, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
balls seems to do this weird accusing people of being lifelong racists/misogynists thing every once in a while (cf morbs a month or two ago) but i don't support his tempbanning in this instance
xp lol
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
balls is a master of the "when did you stop being a flagbearer for renowned domestic abusers?" rhetorical device
― da croupier, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
who was balls before he was balls?
― how's life, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
james bl0unt
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
undropped
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
aw, ruined my "Shaft" joke (probably a good thing)
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
damn i can't believe some dude doxxed balls, protest ilx
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
a perfect sentence
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
i googleproofed the name he posted under for years!
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
anyways time in but let's be kind out there folks
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
I like to think there's an alternate world where Chris Brown was really shocked by his own behavior, did a lot of soul searching and therapy, and is seen as a super-nice repentant guy who only courteously addresses those who bring up an incident of violence in his past by acknowledging his shame and moves on.
I mean, I'd still probably get annoyed at his pop music, but ehhh who cares
― mh, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
http://stuffpoint.com/batman/image/85629-batman-bat-signal.jpg
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
seriously j0rd can you not joke about me really-not-really putting people's shit out there when there are trigger happy mods afoot
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
paid the cost to do the doxx
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
I hope some dude doesn't end up taking any heat for this balls situation.
― how's life, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
i hope j0rdan gets to share that he just learned the term "doxx" again, it seems like a really exciting time for him
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
my main takeaway is that Chris Brown brings out the worst in everyone, ergo he should be set on fire
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
tha doxxfather
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
damn i can't believe some dude doxxed balls, protest ilxa perfect sentence
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, November 26, 2012 1:59 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dying
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
doxxed balls
All I have in this world is balls and some dude.
― Artie Bucco Drummer Type (Eazy), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
doxxed balls and some dude
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
(though what the hell do you expect from COMEDIANS aka the scum of the earth and the lowest worms)
Johnson is not a comedian; though she's now writing for TV and websites, for the majority of her time zinging Brown on twitter she had a long-standing day job as a floor producer on local TV news, and just happened to find Brown repulsive.
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
Clearly the usual gang of wannabe freelance tucker carlsons should run ilx
― buzza, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link
woah the chris brown thread took a dark turn while i was gone
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
ya it was pretty sunshiny before
― bury my heart at wounded gucci store (m bison), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
have you been gone since 2009? sp
― D-40, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
*xp
http://i.imgur.com/UaV7L.jpg
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
just a horribly formed "joke" fellas!
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
lmao I get it
― bury my heart at wounded gucci store (m bison), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
― buzza, Monday, November 26, 2012 9:22 PM (1 hour ago)
lol buzza
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/files/a-pillifant-carlson.jpg
― buzza, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5963352/hating-chris-brown-isnt-racist-until-you-make-it-racist
― buzza, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
That Penn/Madonna thing is crazy. Is there an actual source for it? It seems to be reposted everywhere, but unless I'm missing it I don't see a link to an original source article (the baseball bat thing was of course widely reported at the time.)
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
I get the same "is this racist" feeling that some people get about the Chris Brown haters when certain relatives of mine talk about Michael Vick.
― how's life, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
this interview was just PERFECTLY timed http://gawker.com/5964472
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
we should really be encouraging posts like balls' itt imo, such a good read
― flopson, Friday, 30 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
he hasn't posted once anywhere since the threadban was lifted. hope balls ain't blue.
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Friday, 30 November 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
Hang in there, balls.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 November 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
Brown may have left twitter, but back in good form on instagram
― Regional Tug (irrational), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/popcrush.com/files/2012/12/breezy7.jpg
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
what's the point in wearing pants at that point
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
pretend bj from a punk cartoon
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
lonely guy thinking baout things
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://rollingout.com/photos/chris-brown-and-big-sean-cover-xxl/
Just saw a copy in a store and wanted to vomit
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 5 January 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
I just have to say it sometimes, but fuck that dude
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
The title is what angered me most.
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, thats properly fucked up ...
― mark e, Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
guh
― mahatma lambert (crüt), Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
I used to have a subscription to XXL (don't ask why - despite it being 30 times better than the currently dreadful The Source, it isn't exactly very good either), and it elapsed right before this issue. Thank God. If this had shown up in my mailbox.....
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
The Source is also equally apologetic about Chris Brown and said something offensive abt him in their last issue, which must have rankled all of the female writers on staff.
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
if your subscription was still current, you could have cancelled it and told them why
― I had such a fontasy (stevie), Sunday, 6 January 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, January 5, 2013 2:32 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
*shudders*
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 January 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
I understand the thrust of that cover, though. While I appreciate that Chris Brown has spent the last several years expressing his deep regret and doing everything in his power to repair his reputation, once you've heard a guy sincerely apologize for the four hundredth time, you just wanna be like...stop beating yourself up, guy. The world forgives you.
― Nutzhak Perlman (Old Lunch), Sunday, 6 January 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
.stop beating yourself up, guy.
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
if only there was someone else he could beat up
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:41 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
god, you're such a consistent prick.
― I had such a fontasy (stevie), Sunday, 6 January 2013 09:37 (eleven years ago) link
chris looks like he just got hit in the eye with some spooge in this pic.
― said the brohaim to the cochise (how's life), Sunday, 6 January 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
always get this guy mixed up with charlie sheen and keep expecting this thread to be "chris brown commits suicide".
― said the brohaim to the cochise (how's life), Sunday, 6 January 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
got in a fight with Frank Ocean??
― The Reverend, Monday, 28 January 2013 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes it's like he's following a script.
― Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth! (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 January 2013 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, January 28, 2013 1:06 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
again?
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 06:42 (eleven years ago) link
we really have yet to see the apex of frank ocean love if he beat down chris brown
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 06:43 (eleven years ago) link
frank ocean @frank_oceangot jumped by chris and a couple guys. lol. i only wish everest was there.
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 06:44 (eleven years ago) link
chris brown to legally change his name to "haha chris brown"
― Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/27/chris-brown-frank-ocean-fight-westlake-studio/
― to each his own but (Eazy), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
the reuters newscrawl tvs at work said chris brown got in a fistfight with "a man" at a studio in LA. i mentally shook my fist.
― goole, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
God bless the goddamn Onion.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBtMb0uCQAEg-Jw.jpg:large
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
Charles Manson did most of those things.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
Lol at "painting"
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
probably should have been a poll, my bad
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
but I'M JUST ME!!
it could still be a poll
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
directing video pic = lol
all of the other people in the photos were bloody and unconscious on the ground within minutes after the photos were taken.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
I am still on "Medias"
― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
Chris has been made to look bad using conte crayon, acrylic paint, and digital collage.
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 09:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rihanna-on-chris-brown-we-know-exactly-what-we-have-now-20130130#ixzz2JTSWqW9g
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I can't really argue too much against that, it is her life and her decision
― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
and also we don't know these people or what actually goes on in their lives
what we can and still should speak out against is how the narrative is being flogged to the public in her music as some sort of doomed tragic romance
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:22 (17 minutes ago) Permalink
this is kind of how I've come to think of a couple of my friends in abusive relationships
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
I get my old man think-of-the-kids on about that shit. young girls look up to Rihanna so "it's my choice to get back with the abuser" is a shitty look imo. fairly sure I've ID'd my particular stake in this on this thread at some point. hope Chris Brown has a fatal car crash ASAP.
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
oh don't get me wrong, me not wanting to talk shit about Rihanna's choices had absolutely no bearing on my desire to see Chris Brown's severed head splashed across the CNN.com front page
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
A$AP Fatal Car Crash
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, aero, my opinion is an amalgam of yours and those previous. Rihanna is ultimately responsible for her own fate, but it really is terrible that the path she's chosen looks an awful lot like domestic abuse advocacy. Also, I'm hoping CB has some kinda nonfatal-yet-disfiguring freak fishing accident. Although, realistically, his temper is probably just going to get him murdered.
― Pet Secratary (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
The comments to any/every Chris Brown news story are just entirely depressing.
― SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
ctrl+f mordy gets me nowhere in this thread wtf
― Garth Brooks In ... The Life of (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
think we have to try to understand that rihanna leads a p much surreal life utterly devoid of perspective
she is young and surrounded and indeed profiting from the overdriven fuck the haters swag swag 24/7 of the age so how is she not going to totally susceptible to bs rock n roll turbulent romanticism
nothing in her existence is set up for a nice caring chap, and nor is it likely to be anytime soon
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
but lex otm re label vultures and the like
in truth i kinda think less of terius in particular, maybe i'm just being ridiculous but idk. he has this great gift of inhabiting the person he writes for but apparently it's just coldly delivered from an unfeeling place - 'nobody's business', none of his either
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
yo i'm here.
why am i here?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
the eternal question
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
no wait guys remember if you speak out against this PR machine you're actually blaming Rihanna & you're a piece of shit who shouts down abuse victims. I'm pretty sure that's what someone was trying to tell me on here.
― crüt, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
That argument was leveled at mordy on the lit cluster bang thread. I expected to find similar fisticuffs with mords on this thread.
― Garth Brooks In ... The Life of (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
sounds a little like you're living vicariously through my clusterfucks. i encourage you to start your own!
― Mordy, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer to be a wallflower in others' clusterfuck bunkers
― Garth Brooks In ... The Life of (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
in truth i kinda think less of terius in particular
i thought it was taken as a given that he's a bit of a scumbag
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
rtc otm about rihanna's weird bubble lifestyle but it's also important to remember that the shit she's saying is no different to the shit millions of domestic violence victims have said as they've gone back to their abusers. the collective tut-tutting about how she's a role model and won't she think of her fans is the same as "won't you think of your children" writ large. i'm not saying that the people around her, or the people around all those other victims, shouldn't be saying that, but we have to realise that the pattern of cases like this is such that the emotional abuse is so great that it doesn't work.
it's important to focus less on the individuals in this and more on the system that perpetuates situations like this: the industry's continued support of chris brown, of course, but in a wider sense attitudes to domestic abuse that either fail to take it seriously (see: the victim-blaming that began the minute the case came to light) or fail to understand the intricacies of it. rihanna ditching chris brown isn't going to solve domestic violence.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
http://frankocean.tumblr.com/post/42126124722/as-a-child-i-thought-if-someone-jumped-me-it-would
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
for the millionth fucking time the "role models" thing was not supposed to be levelled at Rihanna herself
― :C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
the RS article bums me out on several levels
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5981883/chris-brown-obviously-faked-his-180-days-of-community-service-will-probably-be-ordered-to-start-all-over
― mbvgz (how's life), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
gotta be a little impressed at "yes, I did the community service. I put in multiple 40-hour weeks picking up garbage"
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
there's gotta be some jail time here
― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
how pathetically bad at lying do you have to be to get caught out like this
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
rihanna must be psychotically committed to this "long troll" game she's running to stick w/him.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
it would be hilarious if chris brown went to jail BUT on principle people shouldn't be getting locked up for skirting on community service the first time around
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Suuuuuuure he's going to jail.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
this dude is never going to jail come on now
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like this goes a little beyond skirting, it's like a weird conspiracy to dupe the court. not sure he'll go to jail though.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
how much of an asshole do you have to be to shirk yr fucking community service for **felony assault** against your **girlfriend**, WHO YOU ARE STILL INVOLVED WITH. It's not like he had unpaid traffic fines or some shit. I mean, what the everloving fuck. ASSHOLE. PRIZE-WINNING fucking asshole.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
uh he's just lying. people do that shit all the time.
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
he did rope in other people to help him lie, unless i misread the article, which sounds somewhat conspiratorial...
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
feel like the amount of fudging on community service numbers must be billionsof hrs in toto. grossest detail in that story (if i'm reading it right) is collusion by his family
xps
― goole, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
gross but understandable; how likely would you be to piss off your meal ticket
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
Him going to jail (which he won't) for fudging community service rather than, you know, assaulting people would be some Al Capone shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
someone's family is lying in order to help that person to get off? THE HORROR
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
his family must be pretty shitty, based on this and other evidence, so it may be a slight horror. plus i mean it's just community service, he already 'got off' pretty easy it seems.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
if i kicked the crap out of my girlfriend my mom wouldn't do a fucking thing for me, trust
― goole, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
chris brown running home to mom to help him get out of the backbreaking life destroying punishment of picking up trash after he beat the shit out of a woman
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
His family must be pretty shitty, based on fucking CHRIS BROWN.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
well that was my key piece of evidence
well we already know that MOM BREEZY is a monster
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://documents.latimes.com/chris-brown-likely-faked-community-service-d-says/
anyway, read from the end of p 10
chris brown's mom and one of chris brown's mom's former employees attempt to get a commercial cleaner to lie about CB doing all his after-hours work
― goole, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
look i know this isn't some manson or mozilo level crime here but come on
― goole, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
it is weirdly comforting to know that the system works if you have enough money
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
i'm just wondering if some judge, looking to get some notoriety, might not crack down on this guy
― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
relatedly I was wondering this morning if I could have a unicorn with a badass rainbow mane
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
saving that post for when CB inevitably pulls the short straw and does jail time
― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
inevitably?
― goole, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty sure that would get you possession and 15-20.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/493774df4fde5cf3a47a93b8286cc021/tumblr_mgbxhqAUC81r0p18uo1_500.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
is the from The Cabin in the Woods? if so, can we send Chris Brown there?
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, February 6, 2013 5:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
into this angle
― schlump, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
I hear if you freeze-frame the shot of all the monsters waiting in cages you can find Chris Brown in there along with the vampires, ghouls and fishmen.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
Hah ha, rage broccoli.... ah, good times ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
Richard Marx ✔ @richardmarx
"Risque" clothing banned at Grammys but guys who beat up women? Come ooonnn downnnnn.....#goodcallgrammys
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 February 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
looooool
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 8 February 2013 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.avclub.com/articles/law-and-order-svu,92846/
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 21 February 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we've come full circle
http://www.epicrecords.com/sites/epicrecords/files/imagecache/epicrecords_news_node/SK%20BEAT%20IT%20approved.jpeg
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 March 2013 05:08 (eleven years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
the what even the
― radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
what if it's also a cover
― katherine, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
He's just trollin along
― Harlem vs Alabama (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
the chutzpah
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 05:20 (eleven years ago) link
jfc
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 08:25 (eleven years ago) link
that SVU episode was lmao
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 09:02 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Brown @chrisbrown 1h
: "X" = 10... 10 years of me being an artist. 5-5-89 bday(5+5 is 10) 8.. 9.. 10.will be turning 24. "X" 24th letter in the alphabet.
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 March 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link
gay baiting diss of drake on jeezy remix
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 30 March 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
― 乒乓, Saturday, 30 March 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
having just seen room 237, i was looking for that word!
― Look, Brian, about the afro wig... (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 March 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link
Oh great...
― Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 30 March 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGs1gODLiSQ
my eyes rolled so hard they rolled out of their sockets and are on the floor help i cant find my eyes
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
i haven't watched or heard that yet - he can wait - but the positioning around this album is very much "we win back the middle-class media/critics" isn't it - collabs with crit-faves like diplo, well-timed interviews in which he finally apologises...the peddling of the "changed man" narrative is strong with this one
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link
it's a loverman song for sure
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link
whatever happened to ne-yo's anime suite. i bet that woudl have been 10000x better than 'fine china'
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, April 3, 2013 8:29 AM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this post is a 2 year old throwback from the F.A.M.E. era?
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link
i mean...diplo already produced his biggest post-'comeback' single
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
video is ugh but i kinda like "Fine China" as a song, surprisingly weak high notes aside
aaahhh i actually completely forgot diplo already collaborated with him
nm then
kendrick's on the new one too, sigh
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link
yeah i was about to say kendrick is the latest rapper to jump at the chance to do multiple songs with skeezy breezy
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
goddammit
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
kendrick's making himself more ubiquitous on features than it really seemed like he would. he's doing the new miguel single, he's on the new 50 single (which is actually great) and then this chirs brown thing
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
he's also touring with steve aoki right now (?)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
i'd like to hear kendrick on more features (CB apart), one of the most underrated aspects of GKMC was the way he played with his voice so effectively and the variety of vocal modes he employed
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
I understand the business plan, I just think it sucks that apparently all roads to black musical success lead through Chris Brown
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
do you like his verse on "fuckin problems" xp
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
haha that is a real goon litmus test
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
i don't remember it, i've only given that song like one cursory listen
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
well if lex likes kendrick's different vocal approaches i'm wondering how he feels about "girl, i know you want DIH DIH"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
i don't necessarily like all his vocal approaches, i like that he has a variety of them and hopefully this would make him a good or at least more thoughtful guest rapper
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
yeah i'd imagined similar (and the miguel seems like it'd be an especially sympathetic fit) but from what i've encountered he is a weirdly horrible guest rapper, too solipsistic for purpose basically
DIH DIH (whether annoying or not) is actually the only good bit of his probs verse just by virtue of being memorable - the rest drones past, flat and complicated
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
kendrick on the "r.i.p." remix is cool, works well on a dj mustard beat
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah his "fuckin problems" verse has a distinct air of "wait shit i didn't realize this was gonna be a massive hit"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
just relistened to "fuckin' problems" and yeah kendrick is somehow almost completely unmemorable and rote
it's a hit?! it's really not a great song
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
yeah it's basically one of the 5 biggest rap songs of the last few months
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
i like when he says "girl i'm kendrick lamar" too, inadvertently seems to acknowledge everyone's bored blank looks
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
on the off occasion i hear fkn probs i tend to let it roll by but now i'm paying attention and asap's verse is one million billion times more objectionable than p much anything, like a fucking human tumblr reblogging random rap lines
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
yea
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
a$ap kinda encapsulated
and then fucking drake says he's going to put the beatles on
what a wretched song all round
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
a$ap is terrible on everything but his verse at least FITS the song to the point that i don't mind it like kendrick's verse. also lol "humpin' dog" clean version.
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
in the edited version asap goes "hilfiger rich" and wasn't there a controversy w/ hilfiger and afro-americans recently??
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
that verse is super rebloggy even by rocky's standards but i've grown to dig it
i get "put the chrome to your dome and make you sweat like keith" stuck in my head frequently, that's a catchy bit
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Lol. Kendrick the guest rapper doesn't do it for me yet. And Fucking Problems is indeed a horrible song.
― longneck, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
nah it's pretty decent, the radio edit is just really hilarious tho
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
it's a jam but could use better verses. the beat and tity are the best things about it.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
Idk, it just always felt so... manufactured to me. There's no chemistry between anyone involved and the hook sounds like a machine wrote it. Not denying its general catchiness though.
― longneck, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
i dunno i will give some credit to the OVO lead single factory that the songs they hand to various artists feel somewhat crafted for them -- it sounds enough like an A$AP Rocky song that it makes sense as his single in ways it wouldn't if that beat had been for a Meek Mill single or a French Montana single or something. the seams do show, though, and i dunno why 2 Chainz doesn't have a verse.
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:38 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
kendrick's solipsism best shown in how polite and reserved his 'beast!' at the end of his problems verse is, as if he hadn't listened to the other two previously. he says it so daintily
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
lol the way everyone on that song says "BEAST!" after a whatever verse is easily the worst thing about it
― some dude, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
also one of the funniest things about Kendrick on the Lonely Island song was him doing that
apparently the 'beast!' thing is an asap catchphrase? it's been easy to not follow his career
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
lol I hadn't even noticed they were all beasting off the riesling
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/you-me-and-chris-brown
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKrxrooCMAAnzKG.jpg
― r|t|c, Monday, 20 May 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chris-brown-charged-hit-run-574467
there's gotta be some jail time here― it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, February 6, 2013
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
give him one week til he says "Y'ALL ARE STILL ON ABOUT THAT HIT AND RUN, CAN'T WE MOVE ON FROM THIS????" in an interview.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
this guy is never going to jail folks, keep dreamin
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
Maybe if he gets that judge that Chad Johnson had a couple weeks back.
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
i will bet you one hundred dollars that he sees jail time or dies within the next three years
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
put it in yr xls, i am on record
lol jaymc to thread
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
Thousands sign petition to stop Chris Brown concert:
Close to 12,000 people have signed a petition to stop American R&B singer Chris Brown from performing in Dartmouth, N.S., next month.Nichole Snow launched the petition on Saturday urging promoter Drop Entertainment group and radio station Energy 103.5 to drop Brown, who pleaded guilty to assaulting singer and then-girlfriend Rihanna in 2009."He might be a great performer, but he's a really bad person. So anything to stop people like that from being glamorized, I'm for," she told CBC News."Even if he still plays, at least we're starting a discussion."News of Brown's upcoming performance has rippled through social media, and four corporate sponsors withdrew their support for the show once he was confirmed as the headliner.Molson Coors Brewing Co., esthetics company Touch of Radiance and the Halifax campus of the Centre for Arts and Technology joined Rogers on Monday in distancing themselves from the Energy Rush summer music festival at Alderney Landing on August 31.Even Halifax Mayor Mike Savage vocalized his disapproval of this singer.Fellow musician Classified, who played the same concert as Brown in 2011, said he expected the reaction."I knew it was going to cause a lot of uproar and just get people talking about it. Personally I don't agree with him, I don't think anybody who hits a woman should be put on a stage."The opposition also seems to be spreading. A Winnipeg woman has announced she'll protest Brown's upcoming concert in Manitoba by staging a rival event: a fundraiser for domestic violence victims.Deeper conversationBut El Jones, Halifax's poet laureate, said there needs to be a more complex conversation than the one erupting online.Spoken word artist, activist and Acadia University professor El Jones is the poet laureate of Halifax.Riley SmithOn CBC’s Q with Jian Ghomeshi she said many people seem eager to demonize a black man who sports tattoos."Then you get a black man who, you know, embodies what we find threatening. He has tattoos, he's a rapper and all of a sudden, I think that’s easier for people to say that's evil, that's terrible," she said.She said white celebrities with troubling pasts, including Woody Allen and Roman Polanski, have been able to continue their public work without much controversy.Allen started a relationship with Soon-Yi Previn, the adult adopted daughter of Mia Farrow while he and Farrow were a couple.Polanski has been unable to return to the United States since 1977 when he fled to avoid sentencing on a conviction of unlawful sex with a minor."We had the Rolling Stones come through and Bill Wyman raped a 13-year-old girl, essentially. I mean he slept with a 13-year-old girl, which is non-consensual," she said.Wyman, who quit as bassist for the Rolling Stones in 1992, was 47 when he began dating Mandy Smith, who was 13 at the time. He claims to have first had sex with her when she was 14. They were married for two years beginning in 1989 when she was 18 and he was 52."I think people are much more comfortable in demonizing [Chris Brown] and holding him accountable."Still, Jones said it’s not surprising people are reacting so strongly in a province still mourning the death of Rehtaeh Parsons, the teen who killed herself after she was allegedly raped and bullied."Nobody listened to what she had to say. She was blamed and shamed and bullied about it. So I think that is an important to conversation to have where we are saying to survivors you don't have to get over it."The promoter behind the concert said he is not surprised by the public backlash, but says Brown should be allowed to perform.Entrance questionedThe controversy in Halifax came as a judge in Los Angeles revoked Brown's probation on Monday after reading details of an alleged hit-and-run accident in May. But Brown was not ordered to go to jail.The convicted singer could come to Canada by applying for a temporary resident permit.To get one, Brown's need to enter Canada must outweigh the risks to Canadian society, as determined by a border services officer."What seems to concern me, however, is that the people who get them more often than not are people who are famous to you and me, but not necessarily people who are important," said immigration lawyer Lee Cohen.
Nichole Snow launched the petition on Saturday urging promoter Drop Entertainment group and radio station Energy 103.5 to drop Brown, who pleaded guilty to assaulting singer and then-girlfriend Rihanna in 2009.
"He might be a great performer, but he's a really bad person. So anything to stop people like that from being glamorized, I'm for," she told CBC News.
"Even if he still plays, at least we're starting a discussion."
News of Brown's upcoming performance has rippled through social media, and four corporate sponsors withdrew their support for the show once he was confirmed as the headliner.
Molson Coors Brewing Co., esthetics company Touch of Radiance and the Halifax campus of the Centre for Arts and Technology joined Rogers on Monday in distancing themselves from the Energy Rush summer music festival at Alderney Landing on August 31.
Even Halifax Mayor Mike Savage vocalized his disapproval of this singer.
Fellow musician Classified, who played the same concert as Brown in 2011, said he expected the reaction.
"I knew it was going to cause a lot of uproar and just get people talking about it. Personally I don't agree with him, I don't think anybody who hits a woman should be put on a stage."
The opposition also seems to be spreading. A Winnipeg woman has announced she'll protest Brown's upcoming concert in Manitoba by staging a rival event: a fundraiser for domestic violence victims.
Deeper conversation
But El Jones, Halifax's poet laureate, said there needs to be a more complex conversation than the one erupting online.
Spoken word artist, activist and Acadia University professor El Jones is the poet laureate of Halifax.Riley SmithOn CBC’s Q with Jian Ghomeshi she said many people seem eager to demonize a black man who sports tattoos.
"Then you get a black man who, you know, embodies what we find threatening. He has tattoos, he's a rapper and all of a sudden, I think that’s easier for people to say that's evil, that's terrible," she said.
She said white celebrities with troubling pasts, including Woody Allen and Roman Polanski, have been able to continue their public work without much controversy.
Allen started a relationship with Soon-Yi Previn, the adult adopted daughter of Mia Farrow while he and Farrow were a couple.
Polanski has been unable to return to the United States since 1977 when he fled to avoid sentencing on a conviction of unlawful sex with a minor.
"We had the Rolling Stones come through and Bill Wyman raped a 13-year-old girl, essentially. I mean he slept with a 13-year-old girl, which is non-consensual," she said.
Wyman, who quit as bassist for the Rolling Stones in 1992, was 47 when he began dating Mandy Smith, who was 13 at the time. He claims to have first had sex with her when she was 14. They were married for two years beginning in 1989 when she was 18 and he was 52.
"I think people are much more comfortable in demonizing [Chris Brown] and holding him accountable."
Still, Jones said it’s not surprising people are reacting so strongly in a province still mourning the death of Rehtaeh Parsons, the teen who killed herself after she was allegedly raped and bullied.
"Nobody listened to what she had to say. She was blamed and shamed and bullied about it. So I think that is an important to conversation to have where we are saying to survivors you don't have to get over it."
The promoter behind the concert said he is not surprised by the public backlash, but says Brown should be allowed to perform.
Entrance questioned
The controversy in Halifax came as a judge in Los Angeles revoked Brown's probation on Monday after reading details of an alleged hit-and-run accident in May. But Brown was not ordered to go to jail.
The convicted singer could come to Canada by applying for a temporary resident permit.
To get one, Brown's need to enter Canada must outweigh the risks to Canadian society, as determined by a border services officer.
"What seems to concern me, however, is that the people who get them more often than not are people who are famous to you and me, but not necessarily people who are important," said immigration lawyer Lee Cohen.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link
Loving El Jones' claim that Polanski's life and career have been without controversy.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 04:39 (ten years ago) link
I feel like the DV fundraiser counter-event is a much better reaction to this and use of people's energy.
― suggest bando (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha yes except for having to flee the country and live in exile for 30 years and being arrested and the US trying to extradite him, pretty much chill
― adrian "stanky" legg (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
the Woodly Allen thing doesn't compare either IMO. i did not know that about Wyman though.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
also people care about CB because he's a consistent asshole and the other guys come across as, for lack of a better term, "respectable." also no one cares about bill wyman because he was, celeb-wise, the most forgettable stone.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Also their crimes being different on pretty fundamental levels. Just false equivalency all around. If you think CB is a good guy who doesn't deserve criticism, say that, not "wahhh other celebrities have done bad things, it's not fair."
― king of steens (some dude), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
she didn't say he shouldn't be criticized, she said there needs to be a more complex conversation. while obviously Jones' comparison points are off-kilter and fuzzy - that she calls Chris Brown a "rapper" is a red flag - there are plenty of bigger touring acts over the years that have been accused of abuse (Lindsey Buckingham and Glen Campbell for instance) who've been relatively let off the hook (by police & the public) even compared to Brown, whose probation apparently wasn't violated by throwing a chair into a window overlooking Times Square. While there are plenty of factors for this beyond race (the fame of the artist, the notoriety of the incident and the fame of the victim, for instance), it's worth noting this shit when people act like Brown is some unprecedented anomaly.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
I think this ("I think people are much more comfortable in demonizing [Chris Brown] and holding him accountable") is totally true, and that doesn't mean I think he shouldn't be held accountable.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
I think in the case of prior musicians accused of abuse, had it happened in a period of time where pictures of their victims could surface on the net within minutes and people would come face-to-face with the sheer ugliness of it, that most past celebrities wouldn't have gotten let off the hook as easily.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
as i said, there are multiple issues here, but that shouldn't be a reason to pretend race isn't one.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
sure, that's always a reason for some people, but there are plenty of his own race joining in the criticism as well.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
my personal reasons for 'demonizing' Chris Brown over other celebrities has largely to do with the fact that he continued to be a repellent human being after the fact, without demonstrating a single act of contrition over the matter, and drawing more attention to how it affected him than her.
At least some of the other celebrities mentioned at least made an attempt at reformation or contrition, even if it failed.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
you realize the implication is that his biggest crime is being really shitty at pr
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
again, i think chris brown is a slug who's basically gotten away with multiple violent crimes, but when people say stuff like "I don't think anybody who hits a woman should be put on a stage" and question whether he should be allowed to enter a country, and someone points out the reasons we might be treating him differently then we have other people accused of similar crimes, saying "nuh uh! i'd totally hate a white musician accused of abuse (in the future) if they were really bad at apologizing" is kind of needlessly defensive.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
because I think it's a disingenuous argument. I would wager in most of the cases where someone get let off the hook for their actions, it was largely because it occurred in a period of time where it was easily able to sweep such things under the rug. That her examples all came from said era basically confirms that in my eyes. Hell, two people itt basically said they didn't know the Bill Wyman story!
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
James Brown's career survived his numerous domestic abuse allegations. Ike Turner got inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame while he was in prison!
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
i think it's also a bit of a sign of the times in the sense of how we look at abuse and violence against women now as opposed to how we did in the 60s and 70s.
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
― suggest bando (The Reverend), Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:43 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is otm
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
also i mean chris brown beat up one of the biggest pop stars in the world in a somewhat public fashion. if he'd done the same to some random girl he was dating, i think it would be different.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
which is unfortunate, of course.
i think you're conflating two issues here - "is it easier for people to demonize a black person" and "does not liking chris brown make me a racist?" Bringing up the numerous other no-shit factors like "the times" and "he's a jerk on tv" that come into why one might like Glen Campbell or James Brown but not Chris Brown really has nothing to do with the former question. El Jones probably doesn't like Chris Brown either, she's just asking for people to look deeper and think harder about who and who doesn't get stopped at the border (albeit in a sloppy fashion). Unless you genuinely don't believe that race plays a factor into this, there's no reason to get defensive about it.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
xpost re my use of "you're"
Race plays a factor, sure. This is America, it plays a factor in everything. There are probably plenty of people that dislike Chris Brown because, in their eyes, he looks like a black thug.
But it's a reach to suggest that it's the most compelling reason that he's being demonized 'worse' than other celebrities. There've been several other valid explanations for why there is a perceived 'excessive' focus on Brown in the media these days.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
da croupier's assessment of the situation is probably what El Jones wishes hers was.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
as far as thinking deeper and looking harder, there are plenty of other people I'd rather do that for. but not fucking Chris Brown.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
as far as the question "is it easier to demonize a black person", well of course it is. we have a pretty pronounced race problem in the United States, in case you haven't kept up with a certain other thread on ILX in the last week or so.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
it is v tru that race is a significant factor in CB getting demonised more than other abusers but my takeaway is not that we should ease off on him but that we should pile on harder to the sean penns of the world
― lex pretend, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
Also this is a celebrity controversy we're talking about so it kinda makes a major difference that the person he abused was a huge celebrity and we saw her face all beaten and bruised.
― king of steens (some dude), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
Like we can keep pretending there are many identical situations with white celebs and how interesting that people are so much more vocal about the young black man but the fact is there aren't.
― king of steens (some dude), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
n/m something similar was just said, I need to stay off this thread, it's a neverending groundhog day of repeated arguments
― king of steens (some dude), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
I wanna disagree, just because I think "complexities" are often invoked here as a way of saying "and that's why I'm just going to talk about the music," which I think is baloney, but on a much smaller scale, Jef Whitehead gets two years probation for aggravated domestic batter and people in the scene - people I consider good guys, people who aren't dumb - fall all over themselves to do the "two sides to every story, let's hash this out" dance when talking to/about him. Or even talk shit about the victim. Even when the dude then releases an album called True Traitor, True Whore people write intro grafs to their pieces that elide the whole thing instead of maybe going "hey, convicted woman-beater dude, no press oxygen for you here."
This is apples & oranges in one sense, most people on this thread are gonna have to google Jef Whitehead to know what I'm even talking about. But the principle holds - the white dude gets a "but can we trust the accuser?" treatment (which is bullshit btw. I think he should be ostracized and ignored, as should Chris Brown). The black guy gets petitions to keep him from playing. There is unquestionably a race dynamic to all this - but the solution isn't to give Chris Brown any kind of a pass, it's to stop being selective about which misogynist assholes get called out
― tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
let's not forget that chris brown has also had a wonderfully successful career since
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
petitions aside
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
i think the fact that Chris Brown is A) incredibly high profile and B) beat up someone who was ALSO incredibly high profile and C) pictures of a beat up Rihanna surfaced immediately and that despite this he's D) completely unremorseful contributes to that reaction a lot more than race
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
I mean if you wanna talk about a crime committed by an equally high profile white dude, look at the way Ben Roethlisburger has been treated the last few years, and he wasn't even charged with anything
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
aero otm. to be accused isn't necessarily to be guilty, but sometimes there's little room for doubt. whitehead and brown cases are similar in that regard. i dunno about the scene in general, but iirc, there was basically no ILX support for or equivocation about whitehead. i liked leviathan, but quit listening or buying that day.
otoh, i did recommend lurker of chalice on varg thread, so i'm as hypocritical as anyone.
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
There is unquestionably a race dynamic to all this - but the solution isn't to give Chris Brown any kind of a pass, it's to stop being selective about which misogynist assholes get called out
not a single person has suggested chris brown should get any kind of pass
― da croupier, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
on this thread, i mean.
― da croupier, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
anyway some dude otm, re "I need to stay off this thread, it's a neverending groundhog day of repeated arguments". People are just going to keep bringing up that there are other factors than race, as if anyone's suggesting otherwise.
― da croupier, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
The Chris Brown thread in the sky keeps on turning. Lex and aero otm, though.
― SEN. MORBIUS CALLS FOR WATERFACE TO RESIGN (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 July 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
― frogbs, Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:22 AM Bookmark
3/4 apply to Sean Penn
― suggest bando (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 July 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
on the way home from work I was listening to guns n roses and fleetwood mac. i thought about this thread. i still hate chris brown.
― how's life, Thursday, 18 July 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
bwhahahaha Frank Ocean ftw
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/theboombox.com/files/2013/09/Screen-shot-2013-09-06-at-4.13.50-PM.png
― The Reverend, Friday, 6 September 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
LMFAO
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 6 September 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
GOAT
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/04/chris-brown-rihanna-interview-x
so... Chris Brown has inadvertently told the world he was sexually assaulted at age 8
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
That...doesn't really surprise me.
― The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
Is it wrong that I am holding the seeming-to-me contradictory opinions "what a terrible thing to happen to a kid" and "motherfuck this dude forever"?
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
naw
― The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
phew
― Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
http://oliviaacole.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/chris-brown-and-a-nation-of-raped-boys/
― The Reverend, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:34 (ten years ago) link
glad ppl have written about that. i was actually stunned at the way he spoke about it positively in that interview but i guess i shouldn't have been.
― dyl, Thursday, 10 October 2013 07:48 (ten years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/27/showbiz/chris-brown-arrested/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
― how's life, Sunday, 27 October 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
It was weird to wake up to that headline because I've been working in D.C. all weekend like 8 blocks from there
― some dude, Sunday, 27 October 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
So he's in jail now?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
"I'm not into this gay s**t, I'm into boxing," Brown said before swinging at one of the men, the sources alleged.
― how's life, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
This hits a little close to home; years ago I was assaulted by a stranger who "wanted to box." (I wasn't trying to photobomb my attacker; he just appeared out of the darkness on my walk home and clobbered me, but still it makes my blood boil thinking about it. I guess "box" is the vernacular meatheads use to convince themselves that their violence is a consensual act.)
― Evan R, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
That quote, even in context, makes no sense and sounds like something dude made up to get a check out of this whole situation. Chris is an idiot, but c'mon. It's very likely the guy is trying to cash out.
― Cousin Slappy, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/D93t_NCgPVs/hqdefault.jpg
― J0rdan S., Monday, 28 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Oh...it's you.
― Cousin Slappy, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
hard-hitting analysis from Cousin Slappy
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
I am the world's biggest hater of Chris Brown and I think he was semi-justified in swinging on this dude.
It would have been a better story if he'd punched Bieber.
― a dessicated quasi-tsunami of gut-busting cosmic - tech (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link
The prosecutor in the Chris Brown felony assault case is named Nick Canon.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Assistant U.S. Attorney Nick Cannon, the lead prosecutor
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
2 felony charges of wildin out
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Reduced to misdemeanor. Maybe we were wrong about this guy.
― how's life, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
i'd like to reduce the number of teeth in his mouth
― your face comes with coleslaw (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2013/10/30/chris-brown-checks-into-rehab-after-d-c-arrest/
Rehab
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
addicted to being a violent shithead
― shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:06 (ten years ago) link
unfortunately "show me" is kind of amazing
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
fortunately you're wrong but ty 4 dn
― k3v ink (some dude), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
n/m i did that display name a year ago lol
― some dude, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
meanwhile:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-chris-brown-shattered-mothers-car-window-with-rock-report-says-20131120,0,6459056.story#axzz2lnLoLKWf
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
kevin if you like "show me" plz just listen to this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WNksvMe6wY
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
"show me" could be good but chris' vocals on that are particularly wretched AND IT'S ALSO A SONG THAT FEATURES THE LINE "YOU REMIND ME OF SOMETHING / BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW"
demand more from your songwriters
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
not really a fan of the many dj mustard R&B joints out at the moment, but if i had to pick one it'd be the t-pain single
― some dude, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
that song's aight
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/03/showbiz/chris-brown-probation-hearing/index.html?hpt=en_c2
I am recopying the entire text of this article so you can mourn the death of the copy editor along with me:
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Chris Brown will stay in rehab a few more weeks despite a prosecutor's request he be thrown in jail.Brown, who has been on probation since pleading guilty to assaulting girlfriend Rihanna five years ago, is becoming more violent, with his outbursts "increasing in severity and intensity," Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Mary Murray argued Monday.The singer has been in a rehab program for anger issues and drug abuse since November when the judge ordered him to go there instead of jail for an earlier probation violation.But the prosecutor asked Monday that he been locked up in jail because of his arrest in Washington on an assault charge.Although Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge James Brandlin ruled Brown was again in violation of probation, he cited a new report from his probation officer that concluded Brown "is doing well in the program and making great strides" in rehab.October: In anger management rehabChris Brown getting special treatment?For now, Brown can stay in rehab, the judge ruled. "It appears your doing well in the program," he told Brown."There's no reason to put him into custody at this point," Brown attorney Mark Geragos said after the hearing. "We're happy that the judge agreed with us."Brown is expected to complete the rehab program on February 19, but he has to travel to Washington for a hearing on the assault charge on February 20. That case could still send Brown to jail in Los Angeles if he is found guilty.The probation imposed when he pleaded guilty to a felony charge in the 2009 attack on Rihanna requires that he stay out of legal trouble. The judge will hold another hearing on February 28 to decide his fate after rehab.The latest probation report praises Brown's new improved attitude in complying with probation rules. "He appears to have a more serious and responsible demeanor and is responding well to dual diagnosis treatment program and changes in medication," his probation officer wrote.Brown is working on a community labor crew three days a week until he completes 1,000 of work ordered by the judge in November. He's finished 109 hours and still has 809 hours left before his probation can be completed, the probation officer said. At that pace, Brown has another 101 days of work left.The glowing report is a stark contrast to what the probation officer wrote in November after Brown was booted from another rehab facility after smashing his mother's car window during a family session."There is much concern with the probationer's new arrest and his violent outburst that resulted in his discharge from a treatment facility," that probation report said.Brown and his bodyguard, Christopher Hollosy, face assault charges stemming an incident outside the a hotel near the White House in October. The federal prosecutor handling the case offered to let them each plead guilty to one count of simple assault, but they rejected the offers at court last month.
Brown, who has been on probation since pleading guilty to assaulting girlfriend Rihanna five years ago, is becoming more violent, with his outbursts "increasing in severity and intensity," Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Mary Murray argued Monday.
The singer has been in a rehab program for anger issues and drug abuse since November when the judge ordered him to go there instead of jail for an earlier probation violation.
But the prosecutor asked Monday that he been locked up in jail because of his arrest in Washington on an assault charge.
Although Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge James Brandlin ruled Brown was again in violation of probation, he cited a new report from his probation officer that concluded Brown "is doing well in the program and making great strides" in rehab.October: In anger management rehabChris Brown getting special treatment?
For now, Brown can stay in rehab, the judge ruled. "It appears your doing well in the program," he told Brown.
"There's no reason to put him into custody at this point," Brown attorney Mark Geragos said after the hearing. "We're happy that the judge agreed with us."
Brown is expected to complete the rehab program on February 19, but he has to travel to Washington for a hearing on the assault charge on February 20. That case could still send Brown to jail in Los Angeles if he is found guilty.
The probation imposed when he pleaded guilty to a felony charge in the 2009 attack on Rihanna requires that he stay out of legal trouble. The judge will hold another hearing on February 28 to decide his fate after rehab.
The latest probation report praises Brown's new improved attitude in complying with probation rules. "He appears to have a more serious and responsible demeanor and is responding well to dual diagnosis treatment program and changes in medication," his probation officer wrote.
Brown is working on a community labor crew three days a week until he completes 1,000 of work ordered by the judge in November. He's finished 109 hours and still has 809 hours left before his probation can be completed, the probation officer said. At that pace, Brown has another 101 days of work left.
The glowing report is a stark contrast to what the probation officer wrote in November after Brown was booted from another rehab facility after smashing his mother's car window during a family session.
"There is much concern with the probationer's new arrest and his violent outburst that resulted in his discharge from a treatment facility," that probation report said.
Brown and his bodyguard, Christopher Hollosy, face assault charges stemming an incident outside the a hotel near the White House in October. The federal prosecutor handling the case offered to let them each plead guilty to one count of simple assault, but they rejected the offers at court last month.
― Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
A Los Angeles County judge ordered singer Chris Brown to stay in jail without bail until April 23, pending a hearing to determine whether he violated terms of his probation.
Judge James Brandlin said Brown, who was arrested on Friday, was kicked out of his rehab program in Malibu after touching a female and failing to take a drug test.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-chris-brown-20140317,0,6227095.story#ixzz2wJXbPzn5
― how's life, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link
Fuck this guy bt being forbidden to touch a female is lol harsh
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 12:11 (ten years ago) link
guilty lol
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 March 2014 12:40 (ten years ago) link
i wasn't sure where to put this excellent piece on the rarely-acknowledged women who remix and respond to misogynistic songs but given its focus on "loyal", why not here
http://thehairpin.com/2014/06/the-women-who-remixed-loyal
anyway it's pretty important and otm, and it's always frustrated me no end when these remixes are ignored. k michelle is QUEEN of them right now
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:43 (nine years ago) link
there was a Trina/Lil Mo remix of "Cut Her Off" the other day too. although honestly the K Camp song is so vile that i kinda wish someone did a version that just went over the top in the other direction ("it ain't nothin' to cut his dick off").
― some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah i downloaded that trina remix, haven't listened yet though
"cut her off" is probably more offensive but "loyal" is incredibly annoying because as a song, the beat and the hook, it's excellent and always stuck in my head, but the sentiment isn't just awful but whiny and entitled with it. so thank fuck for the k michelle and lil mo remixes
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link
yeah. it's like divine prophecy for Ty Dolla $ign and Chris Brown to get together and make a hugely popular misogynist shitpile of a song.
― some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link
i suppose i was naive to ever think that if chris brown survived the rihanna incident it'd be despite being a misogynist abuser rather than because of trading on it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 11:17 (nine years ago) link
Glad this is being brought up, having a real hard time reconciling Mustard-style beats, with the frequently vile attitude and sentiments on them.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link
caramanica did a piece recently as wellhttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/arts/music/retro-rap-that-puts-women-down.html?_r=0
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
that was what the hairpin piece responded to and correctly called inadequate precisely because it didn't acknowledge the responses
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
tbh i didn't read the hairpin piece, so am opening now.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
i don't think writing about hit songs absolutely necessitates acknowledging mixtape freestyles, every hit song has those, pretty frequently ones that flip gender roles. if anything i feel like the real corrective to songs like "Loyal" being on the radio is having something like "Can't Raise A Man" on the radio at the same time.
― some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
at least it seems a bit strict if the only legit way of criticizing "Loyal" is by doing a cover version with improved lyrics
― niels, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
no one is saying that
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
heh, I don't care enough about "Loyal" that it would have even occurred to me to seek out alternate versions
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
nice beat tho, glad to see someone making better use of it
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
my fav beat of the year easy
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
the few times it's gotten stuck in my head it's morphed into Ray J's "Sexy Can I," which is a better song by a somewhat less objectionable slimeball
― some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
fine point of gradation there
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
haha rev i keep seeing you post and think i'm losing all my memory
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
this is revenge for when you were "the reverend dr. wiggins" or some shit like that
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
man "new flame" is a really bad song, wtf is that beat, sounds like something jim jonsin would make in between snores
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
It sounds pretty anemic @ home yeah but it's fucking great in the car after the umpteenth play of Believe Me
― 龜, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
i like it in spite of myself
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
I've only heard it in the car and it sounded really good, just wish it was Usher & Usher f/ Usher
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link
I feel like he's been consistently churning out singles that would be good to great without him on it.
― Greer, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 05:49 (nine years ago) link
Yeah p much. "Love More" had one of the most insane beats I've heard in a minute and I'm pissed as fuck at whoever produced it for giving it to him instead of anybody else.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 07:36 (nine years ago) link
actually kinda like "new flame," the shameless 2008iness is surprisingly charming
just wish it was Usher & Usher f/ Usher
this would be much better
― dyl, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
you guys hated on a bunch of good songs toward the end of this thread ('loyal' 'show me') (fuck 'cut her off' though) but 'new flame' is basic trash
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 05:11 (nine years ago) link
i like basic trash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― dyl, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 06:30 (nine years ago) link
yeah that song is openly garbage
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
the way the melody tracks that rinky dink beat is the hackiest thing
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/02/showbiz/chris-brown-plea/index.html?hpt=en_c1
I don't remember a bipolar diagnosis being something that was even talked about as a possibility
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
Why does is every straight rap w/ guests track Brown does straight fire, world works in mysterious ways
― nova, Saturday, 20 September 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link
is*
Chris Brown @chrisbrown · 9h 9 hours agoI don't know ... But I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control. Shit is getting crazy bruh.
― k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
I have bit my tongue to shreds off that shit
I don't know ... but I think...
― tsrobodo, Monday, 13 October 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
survival of the dimmest
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/4osfRVXGsqftoeG2gBQctQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTU3MztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz0xMDI0/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2014-10-15/c443df20-5440-11e4-b14b-d726e9cc9fd0_Bz9TlzBCMAAbq-L.jpg
― Mathew Klickbait (Spottie), Thursday, 16 October 2014 06:36 (nine years ago) link
I say what I want. If u don't like it.... "SUCK MY ASS" ( little Asian girl voice)
― how's life, Thursday, 16 October 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
accidentally discovered deep into some Spotify Christmas playlist:
Chris Brown, "Try a Little Tenderness"
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
https://instagram.com/p/2Yi084PpW4/
Um
― 龜, Friday, 8 May 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
yeesh
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 May 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link
so I guess our man chris brown is a 'street artist' and has done some grafiti type stuff.. so when you visit the hallowed grammy museum in los angeles his stupid ass is the last thing you see before you leave because they have a piece he did of his influences.. prince -> james brown -> michael jackson -> chris brown
=(
http://www.vibe.com/2015/01/chris-brown-grammy-museum/
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 11 May 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
first take is that's soooooo wack but the second take is well you bought tickets to the LA grammy museum so that's on you
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 May 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
its actually not so bad.. its like a smaller rnr hall of fame. but otherwise, yes guilty as charged.
but if you need more proof that the riaa is forcing this asshole down america's throats, here's yr proof.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 11 May 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZGty0YUEAAxvLh.png
― its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/08/30/chris-brown-gun-assault-victim/
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
feigned surprise
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link
he's gonna murder someone at some point
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
if he hasn't already
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
With You is definitely still a jam though.
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link
At the end of the LA Times story about this, regarding an earlier unprovoked assault:
“Clearly, thus far, such extreme consequences, such as the loss of his career, court-mandated rehabilitation, and even jail time, have not deterred Brown’s conduct,” the complaint states. “Perhaps, this time, the imposition of punitive damages for his despicable and unforgivable conduct will.”
What fucking loss of his career?
― Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
― how's life,
it won't stop
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
The term "rage broccoli" almost justifies SFJ's tenure at the New Yorker.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/chris-brown-sued-over-alleged-sexual-assault-at-his-house/
― omar little, Thursday, 10 May 2018 04:31 (five years ago) link
that's horrible
fuck this fucking guy and all of his enablers
― niels, Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
Det. Meghan Aguilar confirmed to Pitchfork, “We do not have any open investigations into Chris Brown for a criminal matter.”
Welp!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:34 (five years ago) link
Arrested in Paris on suspicion of rape. The reckoning, I hope, is nigh.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link
hearts all over the world tonight
― peace, man, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link
B-b-but the cOmPeLliNg ArT?! Let's not rush to judgement here.
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
cOmPeLliNg ArT
No such thing here.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
That's subjective, but I refuse to argue on behalf of Bhris, so I'll allow it.
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link
surely *this* will finally end his career!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link
NARRATOR: it did not
Jay-Z could have ended his career years ago and chose not to (he's a business, man), but maybe this time it will be different.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
― nathom, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 21:10 (five years ago) link
at this point I half-expect this will revive, not kill his career
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
I mean, in recent years it's been Chris Brown being inserted into songs to rescue the careers of underperforming artists (Tinashe, Sevyn, K. Michelle), this will do absolutely nothing to stall his career and it's disgusting, the idea that a man who seems to hate women so badly is still the solution to the problems faced by women in the industry
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link
Apparently his record label won't drop him. Alas.― nathom, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:10 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
rca records strikes again
― harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link
I quit listening to him after Rihanna incident. was enough for me.
won't kill his career tho
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:34 (five years ago) link
would love to see him try and breathe with no air
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:35 (five years ago) link
After his release, Brown took to social media to deny any wrongdoing.
"I want to make it perfectly clear, this is false," he wrote on Instagram, alongside a picture that said: "This bitch lyin'."
He added in all-capitals: "I wanna make it perfectly clear...this is false," before going on to say it was "against my character and morals".
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:36 (five years ago) link
I guess that’s that
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:59 (five years ago) link
people will make excuses for him until the day humanity is extinguished
― dyl, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link