― jergins (jergins), Sunday, 23 July 2006 07:38 (6 years ago) Permalink
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― It's Rodney, currently unemployed! (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:32 (6 years ago) Permalink
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― Mike Hawk (jaxon), Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:43 (6 years ago) Permalink
"With You" is my jam.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:26 (5 years ago) Permalink
"kiss kiss" is gr8
― deej, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Forever" = full on pop house. And I approve. The video seems appropriate too:
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/qnrFvhXwvqKGf7jC
― matt2, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I really like "Forever" a lot.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
coming here to rep for forever so glad theres gonna be another summer of wistful fake timbaland house joints
― and what, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:20 (5 years ago) Permalink
I like this kid a lot when he does upbeat pop; his ballads tend to be kind of unlistenable.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
was just listening to "with you" and admiring his restraint as a singer. he's totally confident with his voice, and really knows how to lay back. ("with you" pretty much rips off its acoustic-guitar groove from "irreplaceable," but i don't mind.)
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 16 May 2008 06:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
his voice is the shit
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 May 2008 06:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
imo i think he's an awful technical singer but i love the way his voice warbles and how reedy it is
-- and what, Monday, May 5, 2008 1:20 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
RIP
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 May 2008 06:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
well his restraint might be a factor of lack of technique, i don't know. but i prefer undersinging to oversinging.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 16 May 2008 06:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
(there are parts of that song where he loses the melody, but i'm not sure if that's his fault or the song's.)
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 16 May 2008 07:03 (5 years ago) Permalink
what i mean is, if you listen to a song like "no air", he's completely blown out of the water by jordin sparks in terms of straight singing, but i think brown makes the song. he knows how to fuck around with his voice (like a natural over-autotune or something) and he really knows his place in terms of restraint (which you brought up, otm to you). way more skilled than a lot of ppl give him credit for i think
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 May 2008 07:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
your original post really otm tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLaFJASD5lc
chris brown & lupe fiasco freestyle on jaylib - the red
― and what, Monday, 21 July 2008 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
Dude seems physically incapable of not mugging directly into the camera at all times. It's endearingly goofy.
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 21 July 2008 18:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
this kid really brings out my inner Alex in NYC
― some dude, Monday, 21 July 2008 18:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
"With You" has been on repeat for over an hour, I see no reason to change the situation.
― I know, right?, Thursday, 25 September 2008 10:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Kiss Kiss" is worthy of the Human League circa Travelogue.
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 25 September 2008 11:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Throwed" needs more love (it ain't a single but it could be)
― Life Begins at Death (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Saturday, 18 October 2008 19:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
Where is his cover of "Hungry Eyes" by Eric Carmen? Someone should get on that.
― tea cake, Monday, 24 November 2008 05:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
!!!!!!!!!!
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 November 2008 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
opinion provided by noted sane person marcello carlin
― dat dude delmar (and what), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown seems to me to be exactly what a Pop Star right now should be, and in that sense he's the most Warholian of Pop Stars since Britney.
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Also, he is HOT
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
ehhhh i like his music tons and all but he doesn't have bsb or britney or 50 pull or anything
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
Warholian? I mean I guess there's something 'pop art' about the way he does all these award show performances where impersonates Michael Jackson, then impersonates Timberlake impersonating MJ, and then goes back to straight MJ, but just...no. No.
xpost
― nutz in a good way, aka bustin (some dude), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
Come ON, the bit where he walks into the crowd.
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 03:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
Okay so maybe I was freaking out a little last night because I wanted tickets to see him in Dublin so badly, but I got them so...!!!!
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 09:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
^^i'll cosign this (but not the warhol stuffz)
still jam 'with you' and 'kiss kiss'
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 09:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
Anyone seen him live? I've just bagged review tix for Jan 4 in Nottingham.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 10:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
youtube clips are promising, I'm v. v. excited!
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 17:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
v. excited (chris brown gets a boner in Dublin)
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
wait, you need to click through to the High Quality version!
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 18 January 2009 19:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
he'd best to invest in a good personal security detail...
― (*ﾟーﾟ)θ L(。･＿･) °~ヾ(･ε･ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
Word 77 already has a hit out.
― carne asada, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
So, is it true what I'm reading, did Rihanna beat up this poor guy's fists with her face?
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 07:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
he better not end up in prisonaint gonna survive a single day in teh county after what he did to 5Head
― warmsherry, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yo (Excuse My Fists)
― My name is Kenny, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 14:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
Babe pretty thick wit the kick that's sick that need to be hit
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
aint gonna survive a single day in teh county after what he did to 5Head
51 Sent
― The FMLing Groovies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
i don't know, do you really want to contemplate what ILX would be like without noted poster 'warmsherry'?
― tuomas bangs out to hardcore rap ish (some dude), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
Jay-Z Vowes Revenge "Hes A Walking Dead Man"
Jay-Z "hit the roof" when he heard about the alleged assault on Rihanna, according to an insider. A source close to Jigga says that Jay-Z has vowed to get revenge on Chris Brown if the story ends up being true. “He hit the roof. Chris is a walking dead man. He messed with the wrong crew,” the source told US Weekly.
http://www.rapbasement.com/jay-z/0211090-a-source-tells-us-weekly-that-jay-z-vowed-revenge-on-chris-brown-over-rihanna-assault.html
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
he's got chris martin on his ass already
― and what, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Beef IV.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
so isnt there a rumour jay z gave chris brown via rhi-rhi herpes?
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
Besides thinking Rihanna is “is so important to our culture" and that she is “the most important artist in music and has the most potential" Kanye says “I feel like, just as a person I don’t care how famous she is or even if she just worked at McDonald’s that should never happen, it should never come to that, to that place,” he said.
Obviously it's not funny to hit a woman in any case, but i would prefer to find out what the actual story is before passing judgement.
― This is a serious inquiry and there may be reprecussions (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
Swifty420ABM posted on 02.12.09 at 06:22amchris brown had bumps on his lip from like 2 years aggo LOLxp
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:12 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think T.I. giving her the herp is a more prevalent rumor
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Obviously it's not funny to hit a woman in any case, but i would prefer to find out what the actual story is before passing judgement."
Yeah she could have faked the whole thing. Or hammer her face into Chris Brown's fist, not vice versa.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
― yungblut, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:21 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yall cant repeat this but i know a girl who work's at t.i.'s walgreens and said in addition to being on like 4 anti-depressants he also gets valtrex
― and what, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
all celebrity herpes can be traced to derek jeter - true fact
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
should we have a secret 77 t.i. walgreens receipt thread
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
xpost - and carlos d
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah she could have faked the whole thing. Or hammer her face into Chris Brown's fist, not vice versa.― Alex in SF, Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:30 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the 'b' stands for 'brown'
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
bruise under her left eye is a 'c'
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
because she was beaten by chris brown
― and what, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
― who's been dubbed Fanta Pants because of his bright orange shorts (some dude), Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:07 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
i am down for this
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
I wonder what type of microwave popcorn TI uses?
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
frankly I'd like to think Orville or Newman's own, but I could honestly see him being an ACT II kinda guy
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
god i hope that dude don't fuck w/kettle corn
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
no doubt that's like the microwave popcorn equivalent of rick ross's CO picture
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm sayin!
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dunno, if she gave him herpes she deserved to be punched in the face imo
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
suggest ban
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
if some bitch gave you herpes you wouldn't be tempted to deck her?
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
I find that really hard to believe.
hmmm...definitely food for thougzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
Still suggest ban, I'm afraid.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
You are a moron.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
so many ppl in the world have an std - we can't all be decking each other over it
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah of course, just accept the herpes and move on.
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
bw just deck a bitch who you think might have something before you get on her, just to be safe
― goole, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
brainwasher may each punch to a bitch's face be a salve to your sore laden weenie
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
for the record, if you're not actually advocating hitting women, then A+ trolling, would be trolled again. but, if you are - why stop at punching? why not stab rihanna in the gut? why not sever her leg? you took my dick, i'm taking your leg!! etc.
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Right, that's even worse than suggest ban. Permalink!
― StanM, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
well I was kind of half-trolling like I always do
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
but this whole "never hit a woman" thing is really sexist
so crabs-level trolling, not like herp-level or anything
xp ...
― goole, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm sure you'll shatter the glass ceiling jaw someday :)
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
better revenge is to deliberately cross-infect with some other STD though surely.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah Chris Brown should have bought a q-tip smeared with gonnorhea and wiped Rihanna's eye with it.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
Uh I know you're being sarcastic but that is just disturbing and gross.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm just o_O at the idea of buying a q-tip smeared with gonnorhea especially because now that you've suggested it the existence of such a thing for purchase seems eminently plausible
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
The best revenge.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
the gonno-rhi-rhi
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah Chris Brown should have bought a q-tip smeared with gonnorhea and wiped Rihanna's eye with it.― Alex in SF, Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:26 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
qTip has gonorrhea? great rumors on this thread
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Friday, February 13, 2009 12:20 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
post of missing dom passantino
― special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
i don't think dom hits women, he just gives them poor self-esteem
― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
we really need to get surmounter and brainwasher in the same room one of these days
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
"qTip has gonorrhea? great rumors on this thread"
Shhh don't tell his girlfriend!
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
Here's how it went down, according to the police report. After Chris received a text message from a woman who wrote about getting together, an argument erupted. By the way, initially, Rihanna would not tell cops what started the argument.
She did, however, tell them that during the argument, he started hitting her. According to the police report, she ordered him to drive her home and "faked a call" to someone, saying things like, "He's dropping me off. Make sure the cops are there."
Rihanna told cops the fake call enraged Brown. He said something to the effect of "You are really fu**ed up now. I'm going to kill you." This statement is the basis of the criminal threats charge.
At that point, according to the report, Brown allegedly began a violent attack with his fists. At some point, Rihanna took the keys out of the ignition and threw them outside.
And there's this. According to the police report, she told cops this was not the first time Brown hit her. She referred to it as an ongoing and escalating abusive relationship.
We're told the criminal threats charge is based on that one statement Brown allegedly made. As one law enforcement source told us, "It's kinda weak, and the D.A. is not going to prosecute a high profile case like this unless it's solid." That's why it was kicked back for further investigation.
Given the brutal nature of the attack, which the photos clearly show -- contusions on the face, swollen eyes, cut lip, bloody nose, bite marks on fingers and arm -- a felony domestic battery charge is virtually a done deal. That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats.
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
hey I'm not advocating domestic violence - hitting anyone is wrong - but "never hit a woman" is really sexist. I mean, the implication is that women are incapable of defending themselves/meek/inferior... and what if some really buff and/or crazy chick attacks you? Should you not defend yourself because she's a woman and you "never hit women"?
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
"That, however, is a less serious offense than making criminal threats."
Fucked up.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
You shouldn't hit anyone because they "gave" you herpes.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
xxpost - I don't think anyone is pushing that angle though.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
that's weird that "beating the shit out of a woman" is less serious as a charge than "making a threat"
― memo from norv turner (omar little), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
If you are being attacked by a crazy buff chick you have my permission to beat the shit out of her, Brainwasher.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
I mean that's assuming you can. Me I'd just run.
right xp "i was going to threaten to kill you, but instead i'm just going to punch you into the hospital"
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
where did you get that from? there are so many different "official" stories that I'm not necessarily inclined to believe this one...
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
I kind of get the logic behind making threats to kill someone a very serious offense that carries more of a penalty than battery that doesn't cause serious or lasting injury.
I don't know US laws though - my first question would be whether a non-domestic battery of this nature would attract a greater penalty than a domestic battery.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
tmz xp
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
domestic battery carries a harsher penalty afaik
good.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah non-domestic battery isn't even a felony
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think criminal threats applies where it's reasonable to suppose that the attacker was actually going to carry out the threat (to kill, etc), but was prevented from doing so
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
sez mto: since they're not married, divorced, cohabiting, ex-cohabiting, or parents together, they can't hit him with spousal abuse/domestic battery
― yungblut, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
...the benefits of maintaining your own appartment
― yungblut, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
is it right to insult your housemate with this - you sir, are chris browns confession
― fucks capacitor (a-bomb), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Jena (who is actually a man) (Jena), Thursday, 19 February 2009 06:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
holy shit:
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh man...
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
speechless
I was trying not to jump on dude without knowing the whole story but this is indefensible... oh man...
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 02:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
dude..
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 02:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
fuck
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh shit
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
goddamn
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
awful stuff
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
dudes career is over
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
over
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
man this shit is sad as hell
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
as the cliche goes, america loves to forgive. i could see dude coming back okay after a serious apology, a tv interview and a year or so off
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
I still kind of feel bad for dude, I don't think this should end his career even if I'm not his biggest fan... but yeah this is just sad.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
no, I don't see him being forgiven for this. Not by white people at least (no offense).
woah
― on some charter shit no doubt (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
at the very least, dude is/was one of the last truly bankable stars left in pop, so yall are crazy if you think the label is gonna give up on him. he'd have to be the 20th 9/11 hijacker or something to be done forever
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
dude, he is totally expendable. they'll just get another r&b dude who's cute and put the chris brown money behind him.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dont think this is the kind of shit he can come back from. im not sure it should be either.
i mean not to compare abuse to using a prostitute, but its like the same kind of hypocrisy between his image & reality that happened w/ spitzer ... u cant be a golden boy pin-up good guy R&B artist who just happens to beat the shit out of chicks on the side -- folks forgive a lot of stuff but im pretty sure his career is effectively done. i just cant see it.
i mean kells kept going but ... i dunno. this feels different. & evident, and obvious.
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
lolby o'donis xp
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is silly man. some dude on soulstrut tried to argue some similar shit. im from an irish catholic family, not being cool w/ domestic battery is not a 'white people thing'
I don't think his career is entirely done, I just think his career as a big pop crossover star is done.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
(fwiw if anyones confused there was not abuse in my family but i knew plenty of ppl who had stories abou that shit going on ... its a 'cultural thing' only in the broadest sense & exists across all demographics)
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
Kells didn't pee on one of the biggest music stars in the world. People find it easier to forgive a transgression against someone they don't know than against someone they do.
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
it sucks to say, but i think this is way worse for him because it's rihanna. if he beat the shit out of some no-name girl this would blow over way quickly, but this is gonna be a thing for the first 100 times that rihanna appears in public. and if she has any permanent scars or w/e he's 100x more fucked
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
xp xactly
tru, plus im sure some folks are more forgiving about 'consensual' post-pubescent teenagers (unacceptably imo but it is what it is) than just straight up unconsensual abuse
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
i mean like always i want to withhold judgment till we know the whole story but if he did that to rihanna he should do some fucking time
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dont mean to imply only rihanna--if he did that to anyone, he should do time
for really tho
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
i do think yall are underestimating america's propensity for forgiveness -- i mean dude is gonna have an apologetic press conference where he cries, he's gonna do a huge interview on abc or something, he's gonna go on a tour speaking to kids speaking out against violence, he's gonna apologize some more, he's gonna go away for a year or so and then he's gonna come back with a "fun" single like "kiss kiss" and life is gonna go on
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
or he ends up getting on drugs & slowly killing himself & ending up on some where are they now? bullshit like bobby brown
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
we need to stop saying "dude"
also i don't see how you could feel bad for him right now.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
is someone feeling bad for him?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:17 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think this depends a lot on whether or not it goes to trial, how long the trial lasts, what rihanna says abt their relationship (isolated incident vs. pattern of abuse for example), past girls coming forward to testify, etc.
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
i don't know about whether or not i feel his career should be over, but uh, i just can't feel bad for him right now
my bad i missed that, yeah surmounter otm
imo this is a really sad situation -- i only feel bad in the sense that im sure this is part of the cycle of abuse & at some point he was knocked around or brought up to believe that was an appropriate way to deal with his problems. Which is really fuckin sad, but now id definitely say im not feeling much sympathy for him beyond that -- at a certain pt folks need to take responsibility & figure out whats right & whats not. his career is over ... and it probably should be
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
well sorry for having a more nuanced view of this than "omg he's evil he should rot in jail". I mean obviously what he did is terrible and indefensible but it's sad that this is his undoing considering how talented he is and how promising his career was. that's all I'm saying.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
look man i still listen to miles davis and ike turner & we all know the stories behind them ... but honestly how can you listen to a track like 'forever' & not have this taint the way you hear it?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think anyone who does that to someone is kind of evil, and doesn't deserve much of a nuanced view :/
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
there are better places for this kind of discussion but deej is right--people arent born abusers--and its sad that this is case regardless of how talented & promising chris browns career is.
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
i just wonder what goes through your mind when you're hitting someone like that.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, February 20, 2009 3:36 AM (2 minutes ago)
Because I'm capable of divorcing the artist from the art? I mean, David Ruffin is one of my favorite vocalists.. he beat Tammi Terrell to her death practically... obviously no one can defend that, but I don't stop listening to his music because of it. His personal life doesn't detract from his talent. But anyway this is a different argument, maybe you can start a thread about it.
― weekend goodtime (The Brainwasher), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
yes, i can understand that divorce. i mean, i think music is meant to be divorced from a lot of things in life.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,495744,00.html
― ----> (libcrypt), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
im not gonna get into this rite now so this is my last word on it for the moment, but most fans are invested in cb's persona as a 'real' thing & this is kind of a wizard-behind-the-curtain moment. i think u are definitely the exception to the rule if you can have that kind of cognitive dissonance
ok im done
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
interesting.
"bite marks"
he bit her?
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
ugh @ that facebook douchebag
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 03:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
well also cb's persona is being a smoove and romantic guy so violently assaulting a pretty girl is basically anathema
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 03:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:28 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i was thinking about bobby b too. ffs i hope rhi doesnt do some crazy whitney shit
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 03:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=47101
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
yea who even knows
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
they seem to be talking about a diff photo xp
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 04:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
they sure do. prolly a couple of fakes.
― Surmounter, Friday, 20 February 2009 04:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah, this really upsets me...
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 20 February 2009 09:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Somewhere in prison, thugs are salivating at the thought of widening Brown's asshole....
― Eater of Mexicans (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh, he's a big asshole already
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
Interesting point, Bo Jackson o_Overdrive.
― some dude, Friday, 20 February 2009 16:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
somewhere on ilx...
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
You know how there are things you say to your friends which, due to verbal and physical context, come across in a completely different manner than when you say them on a message board? Welcome to there, BJO.
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 16:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol o_0verdrive
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 February 2009 17:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah, my college roommate used to go through the "thugs are salivating" routine during the evening news all the time, we always had a laugh.
― some dude, Friday, 20 February 2009 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown, from o to 0
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Friday, 20 February 2009 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
Women and Girls Collective Action Network made a good point:
We hear so much of what will happen to Chris Brown’s reputation and career if these allegations are proven to be true. We hear how all Chris Brown’s sponsors and endorsements will back down, and how his entire career may go down the drain. Now we ask, what is going to happen to Rihanna? We never hear, on a well publicized scale, how this is going to affect her career. We do not even hear how she may be damaged mentally, physically, or emotionally after this incident of abuse. You would think that because she is a survivor of abuse, people would be concerned with her well-being.
As far as Rihanna goes, this is what we do know. Last summer, Rihanna had released a statement saying how she starting building her career from endorsements before she even released her hits. The LA Times recently reported that Rihanna had the reputation of representing “something very positive and in particular a strong female role model, and when she is associated with a situation like this it can have an impact.” They quoted a marketing executive as predicting that companies are likely to shun her in the future.
http://womenandgirlscan.org/2009/02/19/beyond-chris-rihanna/
― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
im pretty sure when rihanna's new album drops and she has two number one singles she won't be hurting on endorsements
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
still, all the more reason for her to coop w/police.
what's really fucked up that i keep forgetting is that he's 19 and she's 20.
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dont understand this paragraph
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 20:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think all that really means is that Def Jam got her a couple modelling gigs before her first album dropped and those folks are willfully misinterpreting it to mean that she makes all her money off endorsements and not records/touring.
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
they also must have not ever heard of marketing before if they genuinely think that companies arent banging on her agents door right now... im sympathetic to the idea that the response has unfortunately been all about vengeance on cb instead of concern for rihannas welfare (which i think is true, and pretty fucked up, and perpetuates a whole cycle of cultural violence and is probably not entirely divorced from cultural concerns about angry black men, but whatever)--but come ON.
― max, Friday, 20 February 2009 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah...the press is analyzing what this means for CB's career and not hers because obvious he stands to be negatively affected by it a lot more...she might be too, but not in nearly the same way.
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
see i took this,
something very positive and in particular a strong female role model
as being related to the gossip reporting about her being unsure as to whether she wants to cooperate/press charges since she still loves him or whatever, and how it would be perceived if she did not do those things. still a reach and a weird point to make, but yeah.
― devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
what's really fucked up that i keep forgetting is that he's 19 and she's 20
She's 21 ! Happy birthday, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna
― StanM, Friday, 20 February 2009 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah...i mean honestly i feel like a lot of things are up in the air and very ambiguous right now...a little less so since that photo surfaced yesterday, but still a lot of unanswered questions and room for both parties to negotiate the road ahead either as well as possible given the situation, or in a way that just makes things worse.
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
she may lose some modeling gigs but she'll recoup that when she signs on as the spokesmodel for grandpa passantino's fruit-flavored girlfriend punch
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
dude it's kinda weird how in the last couple hours you've started a pretty contemplative ILE thread about modern humor while at the same timing coming out swinging on all these other threads with wack tired meta jokes
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm a complex guy
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
grandpa passantino is a decent screen name at least
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
and what contains contradictions, much like david banner
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
this wack tired meta joke brought to you circa 2004
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
how is a passantino domestic abuse zing even a "meta joke"
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 20:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
does he beat his girlfriends through the fourth wall?
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think it's more about the wack tired part
― THE_REAL_BLAP (J0rdan S.), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
i was using the loosened modern ilx meaning of "meta" as in anything about someone else on the board
― The Fursuit of Happiness (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
if its tired and wack to enjoy imagining dom as then im tired and wack
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
i know i enjoy imagining dom as a high-ass moose on the reg
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
srsly i ain't never understood that dude's hat
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
^^^i dont get this post which makes it funnier to me
xp ohhhhhh his hat
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
maybe gr8080 can explain the hat to us
― Mr. Que, Friday, 20 February 2009 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have no idea what the fuck you Americans are talking about
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
RIP xp
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, February 20, 2009 4:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is some top shelf big hoos
― harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
word
― dom as a high-ass moose on the reg (some dude), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
ty i just try to brighten the day a lil u kno
― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 February 2009 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
yourmommproductions (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | SpamChris brown is a wife beaterr. No Body likes him any more. Its going to be really hard for him to become famous again if he even does at all. Wow! Biggest mistake of his life.TigerJon02 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | SpamWatch out Jordan, he might slap you around if you piss him off.dexmex91 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | Spamhe asked rihanna how is she supposed to breathe with no air?UltimateLifeformSon (4 hours ago) 0 Reply | Spamno one like chris brown shoot!i mean beating up girls,did your mom ever tell you boys cant hit girls!topher19kid (7 hours ago) +2 Reply | Spamhe deserves what ever he gets i hope sum big man kicks his ass he does jail time would love thatzafir992 (7 hours ago) 0 Reply | SpamI woulda beat that BITCH Rhianna if she gave me herpes too!Nasty little bitch shoulda told him something before they got in the damn sheets
TigerJon02 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | SpamWatch out Jordan, he might slap you around if you piss him off.
dexmex91 (1 hour ago) 0 Reply | Spamhe asked rihanna how is she supposed to breathe with no air?
UltimateLifeformSon (4 hours ago) 0 Reply | Spamno one like chris brown shoot!i mean beating up girls,did your mom ever tell you boys cant hit girls!
topher19kid (7 hours ago) +2 Reply | Spamhe deserves what ever he gets i hope sum big man kicks his ass he does jail time would love that
zafir992 (7 hours ago) 0 Reply | SpamI woulda beat that BITCH Rhianna if she gave me herpes too!
Nasty little bitch shoulda told him something before they got in the damn sheets
― ilxor, Saturday, 21 February 2009 06:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
boy o boy o boy
So... she's pregnant and they're back together? (Can't wait for the movie version of all of this)
― StanM, Saturday, 28 February 2009 08:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
he asked rihanna how is she supposed to breathe with no air?
i'm lolling
― lil waynes babymama (musically), Saturday, 28 February 2009 08:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think this is actually true?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
If it is then I'm torn between pattern of repeated abuse depression and the spirit of forgiveness christian optimism.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
(xpost) What do you mean? Have you ever read anything on the internets that wasn't true?
― StanM, Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
rihanna, i have tina turner & ronnie spector on hold
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 28 February 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Saturday, 28 February 2009 15:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol for entertainment purposes
― Mr. Hater (some dude), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
dunno how i feel about them being back together. i need the wisdom of surmounter on this one
― z-hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have been thinking this from the second I heard about it.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
i wonder if the record company put her up to it...
― geir today, hongro tomorrow (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 1 March 2009 01:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
This is all one big stunt before they release their duet cover version of "He hit me (and it felt like a kiss)"
― StanM, Sunday, 1 March 2009 05:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
rihanna needs to listen to her own fucking song 'rehab' :(
― lex pretend, Sunday, 1 March 2009 10:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
jesus christ
"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.
"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the s--t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "
The detective said she then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant ... who did not answer.
"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
Don't MissRead the affidavit (PDF)Chris Brown says he's sorryWhy some women go back to their abusersRihanna postpones Friday show"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle ... and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."
At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent her text message apologizing nine days later.
"In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [the second personal assistant] that he was going to get help."
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
It identified the woman only as his girlfriend, Robyn F. Rihanna's full name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty.
how did i not know this
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
Latest news (in Belgian newspapers lol) is that they got married in secret?
― StanM, Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
holy fucking shit, that is awful
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
i mean he almost killed her
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
that is even crazier than what I assumed happened
I mean, he had her in a headlock as he drove down the street? wtf
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
innocent until proven guilty, etc, but holy shit
;_;
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
srsly
Brown sent her text message apologizing nine days later.
^^ is it bad that this part incensed me as much as the details of the actual violence?
― puff puff passantino (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
probably, but I had the exact same reaction
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think its un-fucking-believable that she is back together with him. Indefensible, really. This sets a horrible example for young girls being abused by boyfriends and how its "okay". It makes me sick just thinking about it, especially after a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it".
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
kids don't know how to pick up the phone - my brother sent 1000 texts in dec., a majority to his gf, and i never once in that month heard him pick up the phone and talk to her once
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
1) its totally unclear whether or not theyre actually back together
2) what survey
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
says some dude on a message board
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
It was a survey of teenagers in Chicago, trying to find the original article right now.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
good comparison other jordan
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
putting aside generation gaps, changing technology, etc. "nine days" is kind of a big part of my reaction there, ESPECIALLY considering that his first big public statement on the matter (which was as much about people claiming to be him on Facebook as it was about the incident) was EIGHT days after the incident. that it was a text message is just the icing on the cake.
― puff puff passantino (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
actually i don't care that the kids text instead of talk on the phone, it's that they text constantly while carrying on conversations in real life.
but anyway, back to the sad and fucked up situation at hand.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
Found the original article, but the stats have been pulled out of it. They may have been proven bullshit, so I retract that part of my earlier post. Still, just frustrates me the example this sets for young girls.
(xx-post)
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i'm not usually one for holding celebs responsible for 'setting an example' but there's something really chilling about the message that would send and how this whole thing has kind of played out in public opinion
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
okay are you saying it's indefensible on her part? people who have been in protracted abusive relationships often have a hard time leaving them because of the psychological damage inflicted. given what she's been through, it's kind of horrible to heap blame on her for her victimization.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think we all may want to hold off on being mad at shit until rihanna actually makes a statement abt whether shes getting back together with dude
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i mean this is an ongoing problem in these types of cases right?
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm more horrified at her father's "I will support whatever decision she makes" stance, which I fervently hope actually means "I will kill that boy if he ever comes near my daughter again".
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm certainly not blaming her for her victimization, I just think its a shame that how this is playing out is certainly going to have an impact on the thousands of young girls that look up to her as some sort of role model.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
I also council holding back on making judgments on how this is playing out until it actually plays itself out.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
I love how everyone was eating up every piece of rumor TMZ spit out when this first thing broke, but now everyone is all "whoa whoa hold on, let's wait for an official statement".
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
the way this has played out in public is not rihanna's fault. this
a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it"
is a bigger cultural problem, not something that rihanna could magically make go away by leaving chris brown. i mean, i hope to god she leaves him, too, but i think people who get all righteous about what the victims should do in these situations have no idea what they're talking about.
xposts okay jon, i see what you're saying.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think you're looking at different subsets of "everyone" there.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, March 5, 2009 4:18 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark
no no no not this one again - at least a day off from the politics of "everyone"
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm certainly not speaking from the point of knowing how she should be reacting, my original post was worded badly. I'll just be really disappointed if she does get back together with him and it all kinda gets swept under the rug. Because, silly or not and like it or not, she is a role model and this will certainly make an impact on how some girls may treat a potentially abusive relationship.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
hey now 1 of my best friends is everyone
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
hahaha point taken
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
Lots of real people think they should not get back together.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
has everyone heard of kevin smith?
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
who?
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
she is a role model and this will certainly make an impact on how some girls may treat a potentially abusive relationship.
okay but shouldn't this line go, "chris brown is a role model and shouldn't have beaten anybody up"? i think there's a real tendency to get all into what victims of domestic violence (and rape, for that matter) should be doing to get themselves out of/avoid those situations but it always reads to me as a displacement--they're not the problem. it's harder to deal with what to do about victimizers, i know; but their behavior should be viewed as the source of the fucked-up attitudes we're talking about.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
that was horribly put; sorry, i got heated.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
Of course! I thought that part kind of went without saying though.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
like, rihanna owes it to herself and her well-being to leave this asshole, but lets not put it on her if some young girl who loves "Umbrella" gets beaten by her boyfriend.
xpost well, i just think the way these conversations go is frustrating.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
I guess I just wish she'd be very public about "fuck that guy and what he did", which is of course ridiculous to expect after all she's been through. Not blaming her in the least, just wishing it had played out in a slightly different way.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
i know you know this, but if you're in a relationship where you get beaten like that you are in engaged in a daily erosion of your sense of self-worth. she can't be a rad action hero right now--she's going to need to recover.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah...I think most people are working from the premise that regardless of how it started, how he handles the aftermath, or what happens to him as a result, CB is pretty squarely the 'bad guy' here and people are little less concerned about what message he sends as a role model now that he's, uh, nobody's role model. And ultimately everything that happens from here on out (whether they get back together or he goes to jail or his career is damaged beyond repair) rests on what she does and says now, which is why we're speculating on her actions and not his.
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
^tbomb
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
― horseshoe, Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ 1 thing thats impt to remember is that its easy to cast this like the first & only time it happened which makes it seem odd that she not immediately condemning him--but unfortunately theres no reason to assume that it hadnt been a regular occurrence, maybe not as serious. and if thats the case--if in the past hed been abusive and the police WERENT called and it WASNT the grammies and he had apologized or what have you and she came back--it isnt that bizarre to see why its not an immediate cut-off reaction from her--its just that its public for the first time
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm not entirely sure that he's nobody's role model. i read a quote by ne-yo somewhere defending him (i realize that they're friends and i do sympathize with ne-yo's position somewhat, but the language he used seemed to suggest that even if, as alleged, rihanna's injuries were at cb's hands, "we still don't know the whole story," which wtf?) i think attitudes like that are more characteristic of a culture where a bunch of people might think the victim of domestic violence deserved it than a victimized person not being sure if she's worth saving.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
Didn't I see somewhere that Kanye defended him as well?
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
There were a lot of guys saying this, largely I think because many of them are thinking "oh shit, the squeaky-clean poster boy superstar just threw the 'angry nigger' tag on his shoulders, how do we stop that".
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
Kanye doesn't count, he just made an album about strangling girlfriends
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah, Dan, i believe that that's likely part of the reason why ne-yo said what he did, but it still strikes me as an irresponsible statement vis-a-vis domestic violence.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
"And ultimately everything that happens from here on out (whether they get back together or he goes to jail or his career is damaged beyond repair) rests on what she does and says now, which is why we're speculating on her actions and not his."
Except it doesn't. His career can still recover even if she doesn't get back together with him or forgive him publically or whatever. Fans tolerate the most awful shit.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
You'll have no disagreement from me on that.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
i hope jay-z has a hit out on him soon.
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
Not to get into the debate of comparing the crimes of the two, but R Kelly has certainly escaped the taint of some pretty indefensible shit with his career intact.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
maybe, Alex (although I kinda doubt it). but the chance of CB ever having a hit again (or, say, not going to jail) would be 100x greater if Rihanna is back with him and publicly forgives him, etc.
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
R. Kelly, in his utterly mediocre defense, at least had the advantage of being with willing partners (even though he should still be in jail).
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
Uh did you read the thing above? I think her forgiving him is going to hurt her. It's not really going to help him.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
the nature of CB's image and fanbase has at least much to do with why the R. Kelly comparison has no practical applications as the nature of the crime
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I agree with that, too.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think it can hurt her AND help him but it's all kind of hard to predict
Okay, thats why I added my disclaimer beforehand, he was just the first high-profile R&B star I pulled out that was accused of some pretty repugnant shit and escaped with a mostly intact career.
(xpost)
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
True. I would just say that as a general rule domestic abuse is not a career ender. It might be in Brown's case though. Obv the fact that the victim is at least as famous as he is makes it somewhat different than oh lets say James Brown or whomever.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
That is an xp.
I wouldn't say R. Kelly's career is "mostly intact"; to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, his sales have decreased dramatically since the allegations, turning him back into a niche act rather than a crossover (although lol I wonder how much of that was because after 1000 installments of "Trapped in the Closet", people started going "wau okay, he is seriously ill and we shouldn't encourage this").
I have no evidence to back this argument up so I won't be investing in defending it; it's an impression I've formed that is likely incorrect.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah dan's otm - after the trial wrapped his career has been nill, and it's not like the label buried him
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
R. Kelly definitely went a little down in album sales and is more an R&B star than a pop star but he still has had such an insane run of hits since then (particularly 03-05 at the height of the controversy) that you can't really say it slowed him down. I think the quiet around his career lately has less to do with the trial than the fact that "Hairbraider" was no "Ignition."
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
Double Up sold 1.4 million copies and debuted at number one, boy I'd love to have a "nil career" like that.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
the trial Jordan was referring to was June of last year
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
My mistake, I thought Double Up was out after the trial. But really, the court of public opinion weighed in long before his trial ever actually happened.
Anyway, way too long spent on a tossed off comparison.
― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
While R. Kelly has a career (sex crimes don't hurt your rep as much when you're a self-professed sex fiend), it sure put the kibosh on that Celine Dion crossover shit, U Saved Me or no.
while this is true, even then I can't see him getting away with much more than a chorus on a rap hit, i.e. Ja Rule's "Thug Lovin' (feat. Bobby Brown)." All that "ooh girl i wuv you forever and ever" shit is out the window.
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
everyone vote for CHRIS BROWN for the Nickelodeon Kids' CHoice Awards for "Favorite Male Singer"!!!!
http://www.nick.com/kids-choice-awards/vote.jhtml?categoryVote=10
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
i don't know, it'll be interesting to see what the public memory span is on this
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
I mean yeah R. Kelly can still have a Top 20 hit with Young Jeezy if he wants, but the dude used to be able to get on shit like the Space Jam soundtrack.
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Will the 2008 Fave Male Singer have "Exclusive" ownership over the category again in '09?
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think it is pretty safe to say that Chris Brown will not have the same career he has now when this is "over".
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
also chris brown and rihanna are robots as far as we know personality-wise - they weren't talk show staples before this shit. It's a lot easier for a guy to say "hey i put my thing somewhere i shouldn't have" than "hey i shouldn't have brutalized my famous girlfriend" and it's not like he's got that Hugh Grant charm in the first place. No reason to assume he was destined for icon status anyway.
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
chris brown always seemed kinda boring anyway IMO.
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
rhianna is way way better
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah I thought he was a cardboard cutout until I saw him on the VMAs last year (I think?)...that whole solo dance routine thing he did was completely mind blowing. like next mj level
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
hmmm never saw that will youtube.
the only thing i've seen of his multiple times is that one david banner song that was "okay"
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
um turns out it was actually a CB AND Rihanna performance.
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
maybe I'm thinking of something else. i don't know.
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
you're thinking of the performance from the vmas in vegas
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
I love the "Wall to Wall" remix with Jada
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
OH MY LORD.
― ilxor, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:40 PM (1 hour ago)
okay, but sponsors and (hopefully) radio stations and labels may not. sure, suits jumped right into shit like jay-z vs nas beef b/c there wasnt really a bad guy...but if rihanna, one of the biggest pop stars in the world, (again, hopefully) takes a position like "fuck this guy, he brutally beat and near killed me," how can u see anyone monetarily, publically backing CB?
sorry if this had been addressed already havent read all posts
― the thick man from the late "imp!" clusterfucks (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Radio stations and record labels follow the money. If there is money to be made off Chris Brown, reformed, repentant, born-again, whatever, radio will play him and record labels will release his music.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
It may take a year or two (or more or even more than that if he goes to jail) but Chris Brown is a very nice looking guy with a small modicum of talent. It is not beyond impossible to believe that he could reinvent/repackage himself to a forgiving public.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah pop music world is plenty happy to accomodate child molestors, rapists, murderers, wife beaters, etc. get real
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
This is appalling, and I'm more horrified at myself than anyone, but I'm pretty sure that I could be part of that forgiving public if he released the right single.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
I certainly own records by convicted murderers, rapists, wife beaters and child molestors (note: I'm not proud of this fact, just saying is all.)
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah yeah sorry I meant k3vin should "get real"
cuz yeah I certainly own records by all those types too and I bet pretty much every music fan does
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
this is all wrong that by rihanna forgiving him means he has a chance at regaining public approval. wtf? he should be in jail. shouldn't be a matter for conjecture; he beat the shit out of her. why should he be allowed to drop a dope-ass tune? give it to someone else.
― or something, Friday, 6 March 2009 00:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 5, 2009 6:25 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think this is otm
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
I had never even heard of him prior to this beatdown thing and this has been such a media feeding-frenzy that of COURSE he is gonna have a comeback. Don't you guys pay any attention at all to how media narratives work? It goes - rise to stardom>>triumph>>fall from grace>>redemption/comeback
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol u old shakey
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 00:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
jk but dude is one of THE massive pop stars of this decade
good argument itt but we really need a voice of reason here
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
this is how I talk^
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm serious, that guys sounds just like me.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
have you hit puberty?
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
people who "are on youtube" freak me out immeasurably. Youtube should only be used to watch episodes of Freaks and Geeks and Beyonce videos imo
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 March 2009 01:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's a pity every male superstar singer isn't a wife-beater just to give narrative cohesion.
― or something, Friday, 6 March 2009 01:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, March 5, 2009 6:07 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is way off topic but man that performance is like my #1 piece of evidence for hating Chris Brown as an artist (before all this stuff happened) -- the same "Billie Jean" homage we've seen a hundred times, the same marionette/Chaplin mustache retro bullshit that N Sync only did a few years before, goofy dancing that made him look like a frog jumping from one lilypad to another and absolutely no effort to not make his lip syncing seem like lip syncing.
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 02:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
i never understood all the dropped jaws over that performance
― been HOOS, where yyyou steene!? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 6 March 2009 02:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
that police report made me feel sick, really sick. i'd like to think that surely the leaked picture and then these details would hammer the final nail into his career but i guess shakey mo is right, esp if rihanna has got back together with him, and even if she hasn't he'll just go away for a couple of years, come back and act contrite and maybe give some money to a battered women's refuge or something :(
i am forcing myself not to blame rihanna in any way if she does get back together with him b/c i'm aware of the narratives of domestic violence - even though when i first read that she might be, i yelled "stupid fucking girl nooooo" at the computer - just, ugh. i blame the people around her. where are her girlfriends, her handlers, the people who should be telling her not to go back?? that said i understand why her dad said what he did, if she's determined to do this then all u can do is support them so you don't alienate them :(
but really someone needs to sit rihanna down in front of this on loop and not let her leave:
― lex pretend, Friday, 6 March 2009 02:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― the thick man from the late "imp!" clusterfucks (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
those were sexman comments btw
― the thick man from the late "imp!" clusterfucks (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
ill transfer money through the bank
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/rihanna-dad-speaks-out-after-chris-brown-is-charged-with-felonies--200953
― court suggester (omar little), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
unfortunate title to that article : /
i cringe every time R's dad runs to the press with more soundbites
― let "free dom" ring (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
robyn f. baby please say the baby
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i reeeeeeeeeally hope this doesn't end up like britney and her fam or the simpson's or something with rihanna's dad communicating to her via tmz
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
this thing is so fucked
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
i had the impression that rihanna wasn't that close to her dad in the first place, but really all his comments seem so far sincere and not really improper or inappropriate
― lex pretend, Friday, 6 March 2009 03:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
the depth of the "so fucked" is why I seriously doubt he'll stage a massive comeback. If we had pictures of Whitney's face that banged up, Bobby Brown wouldn't even be on some damn CMT reality show.
― da croupier, Friday, 6 March 2009 17:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
I hope you are right.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't think I own any music by any rapists, child molesters or wife beaters. And I'm not rushing out to put money in the pocket of any, anytime soon either. That's what illegal downloading was made for.
― eboue died for somebody's sins but not mines (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 March 2009 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
there's not really any way to know how many rapists/etc. are in your record collection. but that's just one of the reasons it's pointless to try and take a stand on that kind of thing.
i do agree, though, that downloading means it's never been easier to enjoy the music without 'supporting' an artist who you don't like as a person, for better or worse.
― make me fuckyermother (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 18:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
Some of the greatest music ever has been made by rapists, child molestors and wife beaters. You are missing out. That said I can't disagree with the desire not enrich them.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 18:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
a hoy hoy does not own James Brown?
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 March 2009 18:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't actually! I have a nicked from a friend copy of Live At The Apollo tho. Taking a stand (by breaking one of the ten commandments) since 2009. (Also ignorant enough to not know James Brown was a sex offender of some kind.) :)
― eboue died for somebody's sins but not mines (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
by the way the whole "well im sure we all own records by sex offenders etc" argument is retarded and just downright shitty. it's a stupid excuse, and there's nothing wrong with saying "fuck this guy" and not wanting to support him monetarily in the future and hoping people in suits choose to do the same. and i resent being told otherwise, mostly becuase im not an idiot and am completely aware of the fact that people are forgiven eventually and i just dont want to have to feel conflicted about hating this douche
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Who said there is anything wrong with saying fuck this guy and not buying his records? All we were pointing out was that there are plenty of people who have done plenty of unpleasant things and they still get radio play and record deals and people still buy their records (people like me, for example.)
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
well i'm glad you've still found success despite your public atrocities ;)
sorry i was just venting anyway
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
Venting at a non-existent strawman is a public atrocity.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 6 March 2009 21:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha woah k3vin jesus
― Hateful Guard at Maryland Training School for Boys (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 21:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
Who said there is anything wrong with saying fuck this guy and not buying his records?
Works great for Michael Jackson, too!
― ilxor, Saturday, 7 March 2009 22:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:25 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:29 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u hello u guys are missing the whole crux of the point of the argument here micheal jackson never raped a famous little boy and had a picture of the aftermath posted to the internet and r kelly never pissed all over dakota fanning on utube duh - and neither of their careers were ever as vanilla as c browns - he is cooked - fuck that guys for good
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 8 March 2009 07:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
great dancer tho
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 8 March 2009 07:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
― StanM, Sunday, 8 March 2009 10:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
okay that is absolutely amazing
― lil waynes babymama (musically), Monday, 9 March 2009 00:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
yup, amazing.........
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 9 March 2009 00:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's the shit-eating grin at the end that makes it
― Terius (The Reverend), Monday, 9 March 2009 00:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ice cr?m, Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:28 AM (17 hours ago)
OTM
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 March 2009 01:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
gospel album."WTF?" duet with Rhianna about "how hard love is" on the followup album that all the kids love and all the critics rush to write articles about.presto.
― i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 March 2009 03:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
my girl and i spent an hour or so listening to the eponymous album and Exclusive and it's amazing how often he talks about fighting and girl you can't get away and whatever. Really colors going back to them.That said, they're pretty damn good albums.
― i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 March 2009 03:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
So this Pain to Go Away thing...?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
Instead of R Kelly and MJ, shouldn't the closest comparison be Ike Turner?
― i wants a sandwich now (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think you're supposed to feel bad for him! It's a ballsy track.
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
Its funny how it twists the pleading tone of R&B boy-ballads
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
you have to have an R. Kelly level of lack of self-awareness to start your sorry-for-hitting-you-girl track with 'feels like someone dropped a ton of bricks on my stomach'
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm gonna err on the side of this being an old track, cuz they'd have to have some fuckin balls to try and paint him as the victim and not put some ish along the lines of "sorry, blame it on me" out. i'm sure ppl will jump on the "umbrella" line but it's a pretty obvious metaphor for a teenpop r&b song that it's impossible to tell if it's definitive or not. either way this song is pretty dope
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
you might be right about that; I suppose it's a song he made about rhianna from before this all went down. is this some sort of radio release or just something that's getting blog exposure?
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
if this is real i think it's smart for his ppl to "leak" an apology song (or whatever the hell this is) instead of putting out a song that's an OFFICIAL STATEMENT. on the other hand it would be a good move for them to put his apology song on itunes and then agree to donate 100% of the proceeds to a foundation for battered women or something.
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think it's way too early from a PR perspective for him to associate his name with ANYTHING battered, fish and chicken inclusive. Dude gotta lay low for awhile.
― ILM is a gross place full of coersion and sexual manipulation (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 09:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah - keeping his name in people's minds for whatever reason will just ensure that they won't forget shit
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 10:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
and neither of their careers were ever as vanilla as c browns - he is cooked - fuck that guys for good
I think the vanilla part is irrelevant ... plenty of pop stars (e.g. Britney Spears) originally had their careers rooted in portraying a squeaky clean image. Add me to the list of people who think that CB's comeback + redemption is inevitable.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 10:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
after a half second of googling i've found lyric sites for "Pain To Go Away" from 2008, so no, it's not a legit apology song
― Badazz Luhrmann (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 13:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
im still wondering what "fuck that guys for good" means
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
fuck that, guys; for GOOD
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
yesterday i stood at a newsstand looking at all the magazine covers trying to figure out exactly what's going on between these two and couldn't get it straight. the tabloids (on covers alone) were telling 20 different stories. what's the deal?
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
the deal is there's been very little solid info so it's open season on making shit up?
― Badazz Luhrmann (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
ok. thanks for saving me a trip tmz
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown and Rihanna are undergoing extensive plastic surgery/gender reassignment so that they actually become each other, after which they will get married and adopt 4 of Octomom's newborns.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
fuck it im gonna go check it out. this sounds crazy!! ^^^
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 14:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
That's just Us Weekly's version. People has something completely different.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 15:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:43 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
coming back to this for the hell of it -- pretty much every teen idol goes through some 'loss of innocence' type of scandal, but the when and the how makes all the difference...Britney's got pretty crazy eventually, but it still happened very gradually over several years/albums...at the age and career stage Chris and Rihanna are at right now, Justin and Britney hadn't even gone through their breakup/songs about each other phase yet. and Justin's big PR sin during that was i guess insinuating that she gave him blowjobs? whole different ballgame.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
Autogoblin if you go to TMZ now, here's what you'll find out: http://www.tmz.com/2009/03/10/chris-brown-rihanna-mystery-woman-text-message/
― matt2, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
blerg
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
so he's only finished because another celebrity is involved? I don't get that logic. (See also: Ike Turner, Phil Spector, any number of famous musicians who were well-known to be doing shitty things to their co-performers). The pop machine forgives all, because the only thing that matters in the end is whether or not the narrative makes money. Public morality is a non-issue, this is a market-driven thing.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
that goes double for the whole squeaky-clean --> fall from grace --> redemption storyline
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
xxxx no i meant like, when I was looking at the mag covers I couldn't figure out if they actually gotten back together, were secretly married, had gone on some vacation, if there were legal troubles for brown, etc, like wtf is going on
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 18:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
See also: Ike Turner, Phil Spector, any number of famous musicians who were well-known to be doing shitty things to their co-performers)
If you're trying to argue "the pop machine forgives all," Ike Turner probably isn't the best example to make
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha no kidding
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ike wasn't really publicly vilified until Tina left him in '76. Up to then pop market was all too happy to look the other way.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
how fucking stupid are you
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
stay classy croupier
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
guys do we really have to be that mean?
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
we're talking about a battered face of a multiplatinum star on the internet and you're actually writing "well they looked the other way for ike turner"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
lots of differences between that and this, first and foremost being there wasn't an omnipresent media reporting on every ike beatdown
― and how (omar little), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
my only point is that CELEBRITY BEATS OTHER CELEBRITY is in no way a guaranteed career ender.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
if CB releases a genuinely affecting, well-received "baby I'm sorry" ballad or whatever and he and Rihanna stay together the press will eat that shit up
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
not if the song sucks
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
if CB releases a well-received "i'm sorry i beat your face in" ballad it will be well-received
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown would have to turn into Eminem before that ballad would be well-received.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Look I'd like to think I live in the kind of world where Chris Brown will spend a long time in jail and that when he gets out he'll be persona-non-grata for the entire entertainment industry. I have no personal desire to see Brown be successful. But history has shown that not all people who committ scummy scummy acts get the comeuppance they richly deserve (see Roman Polanski.)
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
It isn't a foregone conclusion that consumers en masse are willing to forgive Chris Brown, even if Rihanna and Akon are.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. I do think it is a distinct possibility.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
(That was mostly a clumsy lead-in for "did you guys see the batshit crazy stuff Akon said re: 'oh, this is just what couples go through'?" but I do think adamantly deciding how this will play out for CB in the future is a mug's game (and yes, I was playing it, too))
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i9Th9k88njmoeIh1Nmw5KLNC1V1gD96R97200
"At the end of the day, what Rihanna and Chris went through is nothing different than what couples go through every day," he said. "They have problems, they go through issues, and some of them, of course, expand to domestic violence which I don't in any way condone. But, you know, sometimes you really can't control it and some people just need to seek help and figure out ways to deal with their emotions and how they deal with issues and certain things."
Nice mix of reasonable statement and total point-missing there (the fact that it happens in a lot of relationships is even more reason to highlight it because we don't want it to happen at all).
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
Akon is a polygamist blood diamond profiteer who assaults his own fans onstage, and he still has a career, so I can't fault him being optimistic for CB.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
"some of them, of course, expand to domestic violence"
OF COURSE??
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm not sure what that means. OF COURSE, women will sometimes get beaten
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
i mean yeah who knows what will come for chris but when we're discussing a teenybop cipher with three years worth of hits going "ahhh but people forgave these legendary figures (who went into exile and/or were seen as a fruit loop for the rest of their life) for their crimes" takes cynicism back around into naivete
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
I would like to say that he meant to say "unfortunately" but I really can't.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
ts:
"At the end of the day, what Rihanna and Chris went through is nothing different than what couples go through every day,"
vs
When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
― and how (omar little), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
akon also once claimed to have a secret hit on the country charts so speaking of fruit loops
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Rascal Flats feat. Akon
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
"who went into exile and/or were seen as a fruit loop for the rest of their life"
Uh not quite.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
maybe he's taylor swift
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
michael jackson, r kelly, phil spector, roman polanski, bobby brown all seem to fit this bill. if you really want to say "oh but james brown maybe chris brown is like that" go ahead.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
Roman Polanski left this country (for a number of reasons) but from day one there were a huge number of Polanski apologists (hell they released a Polanski apology film last year) and it's pretty hard to argue it's hurt him in the artistic accolades department.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
I agree with Dan though. This is a silly game.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
esp when you bring up "the artistic accolades dept" when comparing roman polanski to chris brown.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
Forget it, Jake. It's "Run It!"
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
I was bringing it up in comparison to seen as a fruit loop for the rest of his life actually, but whatever. Sleep secure in the knowledge that his career is over. I hope you are right.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
i guess you missed the "and/or"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I didn't miss the fact that you have no clue what you are talking about though.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
Spector and MJ both had hits well after their erm, "eccentricities" became well known. Ike too.
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
MJ took fucking MacAuley Culkin to the Grammys for chrissakes
Yeah but those were real artists not teeny-bopper empty suits like Chris Brown so you can't compare them anyway.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
since we're clearly still playing the mug's game, let's try to imagine how michael's career might have been different if he was arrested for sucking off a little boy when he was 19.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
Dude, you should have quit about fifteen posts ago. Your idiocy is showing.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think he was mocking - miccio's last post otm
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
don't think anyone's mentioned jerry lee lewis - which is an (admittedly dated) example of scandal taking down a talented pop career for good
― iatee, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 19:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
you have to remember we're working in a context where ike turner's done just fine
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah but if picture of tina turner beaten half to death had been plastered on the cover of people magazine or whatever, might be different?
― iatee, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
Spector and MJ both had hits well after their erm, "eccentricities" became well known. Ike too.― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkMJ took fucking MacAuley Culkin to the Grammys for chrissakes― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:43 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Jackson takes Culkin to the Grammys: 1991/1992Jackson is accused of molesting children: 1993
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
also what is really the timeline on Spector become well known for his troubles (beyond the usual "perfectionist"/"difficult" tags that are easy to initially handwave when someone is hugely successful and revered)? because he's produced only a handful of projects since the early '70s, none of which approach his early chart reign.
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
anti grammy terror ?!
― depressed (usic), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Is Miccio da croupier? A light shines.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
Anyway obv none of these people is a good direct comparison for Brown (a lot were at the end of careers, some of their crimes were a lot less heinous, some were more heinous, and yeah some have left the country--big fucking whoop, most of them are hideously unattractive.) My only point was that it is well within the realm of reason to see Brown having a(nother) career at some point. Will he be completely unscathed? No. Still making money in the entertainment biz (don't forget guys he's a triple threat)? Maybe.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
singingdancing[tacky unfunny joke redacted]?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Wasn't he in Stomp? I guess he mostly danced in it.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
No wait it was Stomp The Yard! And This Christmas! Plus some work in the O.C.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
2006 Christmas in Washington TBA made for television (TNT)2007 Stomp the Yard Duron Small Role The O.C. Will Tutt 3 episodes This Christmas Michael 'Baby' Whitfield Main Role2008 The Suite Life of Zack and Cody Himself Guest Star2010 Takers Jessie Attica[53] Small Role
huh, did not knowxp: lol
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh wait, I remember "This Christmas" now, wasn't it basically "The Chris Brown Story, Only At Christmas"?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
he's also responsible for such great lyrics as "we've only got one night to dance forever" and "you're in disturbia"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, he was the "band geek" (as in marching) in a couple episodes as Marissa's sister's love interest. I am ashamed.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
This Christmas is a 2007 christmas comedy-drama film produced by Rainforest Films and distributed by Screen Gems. Written, produced and directed by Preston A. Whitmore II, it is a Christmastime story that centers around the Whitfield family, whose eldest son has come home for the first time in four years. The film's title refers to the 1970 Donny Hathaway song of the same name, which is covered by Chris Brown in the film as well. The film received a PG-13 from the MPAA for comic sexual content and some violence and 12A by the British Board of Film Classification for moderate violence and sex references.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
I guess the third leg of the Triple Threat is debatable.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
as far as movies that you pick from on-demand when you're bored as fuck this christmas isn't that bad actually
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
there's this part at the end where the cast, at this point out of character, split into two lines forming a kind of runway and every person takes turns dancing down the runway, one of the more randomly heartwarming things i've ever experienced in a movie
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
Better than Prom Night?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
hahah i will report back after i inevitably watch that this week - this christmas is way better than the invisible but not as good as P2
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
chris should reach out to tyler perry
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
After an attack leaves him in limbo -- invisible to the living and also near death -- a teenager discovers the only person who might be able help him is his attacker
basically this kid goes into a coma but he becomes a ghost so he can save himself
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
you should see more family comedies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
okay lol, THAT'S the plot to "The Invisible"?
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol yes
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
just to clarify my oft c&pd 3am drunken post w/the indecipherable ending i could see chris brown hanging around having some minor hits and being partially rehabbed but his career as it was of #1 hits big endorsement deals prime slots at the vmas fawning media coverage etc is over.
the reasons why this story is different than a lot of past celebrity scandals and why brown will be rejected by a good percentage of fans and corporate interests are: it exactly contradicts his carefully crafted image which is the basis for a lot of his appeal, he beat the shit out of a v popular celebrity who a lot of people care abt and feel like they know personally, theres at least once photo of the suffering inflicted making the whole thing much more real than if it was just a story.
i could see if rihanna carries through w/the rumored public reconciliation it hurting her career too. people dont want to hav to think abt a fucked up outcome to a fucked up event from this music they just want a lil fun and positive emotion. jettisoning his ass and releasing a since u been gone would be the way to go from a career and life standpoint imo.
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 22:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
This Christmas is watchable almost solely because Lauren London and Sharon Leal are in it
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Maaan, FUCK Chris Brown and his career. Honestly, who cares? The better question is why isn't the Rihanna thread getting much attention? Why is the initial reaction to discuss Chris' career and not hers?
― tea cake, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
we hav another rihanna thread on the secret bord
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 00:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm not on 77 so, with Rihanna aren't we all assuming that while she takes this time to hopefully sort her head out and figure out what she's going to do, all the huge songwriters/producers are trying to write the best freaking songs of their career for her?
― i wants a sandwich now (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's obvious that this is going to make her a bigger star (may have already...), whereas with Chris the whole thing is murkier.
― messageboard killa/ilx gorilla (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 12:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
― tea cake, Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
in most instances of violent crime, people spend more time discussing the criminal's background/motives/future/prosecution, and when it comes to the victim people mostly wish them well and a speedy recovery. why is this difficult for you to understand?
― blame it on the HOOS got you steenin' loose (some dude), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
wtf new yorker http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/03/new_yorker_blog_chortles_at_ri.html
― just sayin, Thursday, 12 March 2009 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
i could see if rihanna carries through w/the rumored public reconciliation it hurting her career too.
Well, the backlash has already started. A lot of people are critizing her for going back to Brown (and marrying him, as the rumour goes).
― the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Thursday, 12 March 2009 09:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
milk it for all its worth guys!
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
: /
― and how (omar little), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Da Don said in a statement." <-- at least this is kinda funny. The rest makes me really sad.
― matt2, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'd give that 50% odds of never being released, 30% of all proceeds going to charity and a 20% likelihood of this is why god invented illegal filesharing
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't wish Rihanna any kind of backlash or consequence regardless of what decisions she should or shouldn't make right now, but I have to admit it would be kind of awesome of they tried to turn this into a cynical publicity stunt/comeback duet and the public reacted with total disgust and it was a flop.
― som nambulistino (some dude), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
although the fact that their version of "Bad Girl" wasn't even officially released and still managed to chart in the direct aftermath of the incident is a pretty strong indication that that won't happen :(
― som nambulistino (some dude), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
i hope it's a club banger.
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
― da croupier, Thursday, 12 March 2009 20:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
― StanM, Sunday, March 1, 2009 6:00 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark
I WAS ONLY KIDDING! FFS!
― StanM, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
i lold
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
(and it felt like a zing)
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
"WTF?" duet with Rhianna about "how hard love is" on the followup album that all the kids love and all the critics rush to write articles about.presto.
― i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Monday, March 9, 2009 3:49 AM (3 days ago)
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
WHATS THE BIG DEAL?
― H3LP, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
this revelatory bit of news is even more evidence that rihanna is in need of H3LP
― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
we should all murder the shit out of chris brown whatd u guys say
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
they'd make a (u73 couple
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
Was this the survey talked about upthread?
http://www.bphc.org/news/press_release_content.asp?id=473
― ‽, Saturday, 14 March 2009 17:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
That was on the news here; I must admit my initial reaction to the outcry over it was "lol did you people forget that you live in Boston???? lol neanderthals"
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Saturday, 14 March 2009 18:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think most of the frustration towards Rihanna (at least in this thread; I can't speak for the millions of kids who think she deserved it) is geared towards the fact, by going back to Brown, she's reaped much of the reputation-damage and career-damage that rightfully belongs to Chris...I can't say for sure what shape Chris's career is going to take (though I can see five years down the line, him becoming a niche act, prolley toughening up hi simage, perhaps even reinventing himself as a rapper), but by going back to him, Ri's career has been damaged too...and that's tragic...
I don't see how anybody really can blame her...the aforementioned comment about how an abusive relationship ravages one's sense of self is about as otm as it gets...but (this has been said beore too) she should have sort of support network of her family, friends, record company, who should be protecting her right now from herself, keeping her away from that man unitl she has the strength to do it herself...she should be in intensive therapy right now; she should definitely not be in the arms of her assailant...
This is why I suggested at first that the record company was behind it...I don't know if the both of them record for the same record company, or if there is a lot of synergy between them or whatever...all I know is that the complete and utter failure of Ri's record company to act in their artist's best interest by allowing this to descend into a TV-tabloid spectacle, allowing her to do all sorts of damage to her viability as someone who can make millions of dollars for them, is so astonishing that one begins to suspect that maybe this whole kiss-and-make-up thing was an extreemely ill-advised plan concocted by them in order to salvage something from the whole Chris Brown enterprise...you know what I mean?
― sing everybody deutsche deutsche (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 15 March 2009 16:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
this is outside the courthouse
― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
Jesus. Someone should just smack the hell out of those two.. wait.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
Too soon?
I was reading comments on Essence that were posted after interviews with Salt and Pepa re: this whole thing and it's really disgusting the number of "it was totally her fault because she hit him first" messages there were.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
Every time I click on this thread I read the first post as saying "Great cock too."
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 March 2009 17:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/chrisbrown_comics.jpg
― chap, Sunday, 29 March 2009 02:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
wait for real?
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha oh i guess that was booked and cancelled a long time ago nm
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
unless polow da don is now a booking agent
hahahah
― I DIED (deeznuts) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's the way it's not even that implausible
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
i still can't listen to his voice btw. i assume this won't last, but...not yet
how is that even 'best of both worlds' of anything...Virginia and Barbados?
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
one is a boy and one is a girl?
― I DIED (deeznuts) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
i don't get it, which is which
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
check the tattoos
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
would check rihanna's tattoos
― The-Reverend (rev), Monday, 6 April 2009 22:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
guiltily listen to throwed from time to time still.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 10:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
so do you avoid music by all suspected/convicted abusers or just chris brown?
― lil waynes babymama (musically), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's a lot easier to say goodbye when the abuser is as dead ass boring as chris brown
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
the weird thing is i strongly disliked the kid a couple years ago but now he has a handful of songs i genuinely like, and even though i think he's totally despicable as a person, i will still jam "No Air" and "Yo" and "Freeze" and not think about all that stuff.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
i know i've seen his videos a ton of times, i can't even recall one song or melody or hook except for that david banner song
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 14:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
lol he has a song called "say goodbye"
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
i still rock all my chris brown jams, of which there are many
i'm not deliberately avoiding listening to cb out of principle, i'm fully aware that i'll go back to them at some point, but just...not yet
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol this is so, so, so true
Fortunately I never actually owned anything by him and never planned to get anything by him because he's corny, so it's kind of a non-issue for me.
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
given how much Dom was into CB's music I really wish he was still here to share his opinion right now. RIP.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
I keep trying to find the greater appeal in Ne Yo, seeing as it seems I'm gonna have to settle for that cat until CB gets a media exoneration and can release goofy ass pop without people gasping, but NY is just so fucking straight-faced and full of gravitas.There's nothing posi about smacking up your girl, pop star or not, but Brown was always mugging to the camera and really sounded like he was enjoying his moment. Ne Yo sounds like he has a dinner date at 8 and needs to hit the gym first, so let's get this bar over with.If y'all have some joyful Ne Yo songs (or another suitably goofy contemp R&B kid for me instead), please point em out.
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
idk forks, i could see what you're saying wrt ne-yo on some of his album tracks but "closer" and "miss independent" are two of the best clubby r&n trax in a long while imo
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think you want The Dream, maybe?
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
have you ever heard Ne-Yo's first single, "Stay"? always thought that was a good uptempo jam, but yeah i kinda know what you mean, joyful is not really an adjective that comes up a lot with his stuff, but then that's not what i listen to him for.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
I find "Closer" to be incredibly joyful.
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
i love hearing it but i dunno, what i like about it is that it's a little brooding
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
eh, The Dream is boring in a lack of sui generis qualities way that makes most quiet storm shit seem scintillating.I'll go back and relisten to those tracks; I got the album... just not clicking.What DO you listen to Ne Yo for?
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
o never mind, you just intimated
I listen to Ne-Yo for his voice. I think he's got great pipes.
― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
there really is noone else on the radio i enjoy singing along with more. not that i can sing, but he's right in the perfect register where i can pretend to hit the notes and there are all these great little twists and turns that make the melodies fun to sing.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
ya forks wtf are you talking about
btw if you want singalong choruses go with "single"
― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
mad is best sing along chorus, miss independent is best for verses
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
so sick is best 4 all time
Somehow he misses the sweet spot for me; just can't find him compelling.Everybody else seems to love him...>shrug<I'll try the album again front to back.
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Mad" is only fun to sing along if you pretend he's sneezing in the chorus like "i don't wanna go to bed mad -- achoo!"
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah it's known that i will stunt for "mad" forever, but i kinda thought "single" had the better singalong. also, "mad" is on the radio, so it might be easier to run into that
looool xpost
― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
i don't think Ne-Yo is compelling per se, i don't rate his albums as highly as other people here and he's a bit bland and edgeless, but he's very good at his craft and makes tons of enjoyable singles
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think YOTG is pleasant to listen to but there's a lot of songs in the middle of the album where i can't remember at all what they sound like — the singles from the album are undeniable tho imo
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah...i just saw that "Part Of The List" is planned as the next single and had trouble even remembering how it goes
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's okay... reeeally adult contempo but i guess lots of the album is - the chorus has a nice little lift tho
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
sounds like something off the free willy soundtrack
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha yeah i remember when Ne-Yo hosted the BET video countdown, a really scary amount of his picks were MJ and Prince stuff from the 90s
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah and he was working out at chelsea piers and being really unappealing as i recall
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
'part of the list' is one of my favourites off YOTG. "things like your funny little laugh, or the way you smile - or the way we kiss..."
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh yeah "Part Of The List" is the song where Ne-Yo says he loves the way his girl's right hand is bigger than the left and I crack up picturing him with a hermit crab woman!
― andrei armpitshavin (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
well, he never specifies girl
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
no hermo
― andrei armpitshavin (some dude), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
omg ship dying
― prostitutes all over the place (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
heyo
― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 22:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
― i'm warning you with peace and love but i have too much to do (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:54 AM Bookmark
Uh....what? The-Dream is the most sui generis person making radio r&b at the moment.
― Shawty Lo Collier (some dude), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:58 AM Bookmark
being a baritone sucks because there's so much good tenor range shit I can't sing :(
― tuppancewear party (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 02:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
The Dream is the most unique musician in R&B? uh?
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 03:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I would accept sui GENERIC, but not so much that other latin thing
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 03:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
forks is like the r&b tuomas
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 8 April 2009 03:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
listen here, speedy gonzales: I was gettin' it on to the sweet sounds of Luther Ingram while you were still doing the cabbage patch. If not loving the Dream is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 04:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
sorry u cant get with the hip sounds of today granddad
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 09:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
*throws a stax box set at durn kids*
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
i can kinda sorta see where forks is coming from in the sense that the-dream is kind of like a generic r&b artist for the post-r. kelly/t-pain era, but i eventually came around to see that dude has some unique things going for him as far as singing/lyrics/production.
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
this is boringly true of all things but a great part of enjoying ne-yo is in getting into or recognising the absurdities of his character sometimes. a lot of guys could sing what he sings but (for instance) just him in particular top gunning the "commander in chief of my pimp shit FLYING HIIIIIIIGH" on the recent keri hilson collabo makes my lolday every time
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
with that silly beat as well
been lovin the way he sassed the "yes!" at 1:30 on this cut too
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha that silly Ne-Yo verse is the only thing I like about "Knock You Down." is it "pimp ship" or "pimp shit" though? i always heard it as the former and thought it made more sense in the lyric that way, but then i heard a radio station play it censored like "pimp ____ flyin' high" and got confused.
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
well yes pimp ship would make more sense to you wouldnt it.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
XD
anyway after "pedal to the flow, mane" there is nothing Ne-Yo can say that will make me go o_O anymore
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
gotta also once again cosign any mention of ne-yo's first album: forks if you like this -- then you will like that
(not only cos the group scarily features ne-yo's EXACT looka/soundalike 1996 doppelganger!!)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
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I'm pretty sure it is "pimp ship"; he talks about being shot down by a "pretty little missile"; besides which I've seen it on BET uncensored in that fashion. I think your radio station is overly cautious.I'm gonna quit hating, but I'm just not hearing what you guys are hearing. Maybe I'll try again over the weekend, I'm on a heavy UGK/GMob kick just now tho'.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
Just watched that utube; I have a soft spot for Chubb Rock and I like the harmonies there along with the Tone Toni Ton'e! vibe... Ne Yo just feels so much more processed.FWIW, he seems like a much better live performer than CB. Solid live dancer too.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
It occurs to me that i have a real double standard with high sheen polish with my pop stars: i don't mind if women are super burnished, but it turns me off when male artist are all megaproduced, image conscious and squeaky fresh and clean.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
Anti-Chris Brown song causes havoc for 2 groupsAP
2 hrs 46 mins ago
NEW YORK – The unexpected success of a song criticizing Chris Brown has caused havoc for two previously unknown bands.
A group of DJs from Chicago found unexpected airplay last week when radio stations began playing "My Flow Is So Tight." The main lyric suggests that Brown, who's been charged with felony assault and making criminal threats against R&B singer Rihanna, should be beaten for his alleged crime.
Brown pleaded not guilty Monday.
The DJs behind the anti-Brown song called themselves Smoke Jumpers, but that name had already been taken by an Austin, Texas, hip-hop group. The group says they quickly changed their name to Jump Smokers.
The original Smoke Jumpers aren't amused. The group's Ashley Harkrider says their name has been hurt "in the minds of music listeners everywhere."
― display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 21:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
btw, he looks like a complete tool for most of the bits where you can see him behind Banner in Get Like Me video.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 10 April 2009 13:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
See, this is where we differ.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 April 2009 13:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
man, i can't even watch that video anymore
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
dude pretty much has always looked like an unctuous tool in most of his videos imo.
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
i gotta get zs to do a photoshopped chris brown mugging for the camera with a "y u hate fun?" tag.
― If God Loves Me, Why Can't I Get My Locker Open? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, April 10, 2009 7:17 AM Bookmark
^^^this
― The-Reverend (rev), Friday, 10 April 2009 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
^^^fun hatin' is a habit, get like me
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's the pubestache
― The-Reverend (rev), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
no, the chin stubble is douchier
― far beyond steendriven (some dude), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
anyone else find this distasteful or am i just reading too much into it
― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
nah I rolled my eyes a bit when i saw it
― i'm educated in sex, yes (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
i might find it distasteful if i could work out what kind of point kanye's trying to make. she's empowered now? look what you're missing, chris? who knows. it's clumsy and ill-conceived but it's kanye, so yeah. rihanna's sartorial messages lately have been much better.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 28 May 2009 00:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
well nah if anything it comes off more like the song chris brown woulda been singing yknow?
ugh fuck kanye for him making me weight this shit up even for a second rather than getting whatever vague belated summer pleasure this song mighta had
― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 May 2009 01:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
meanwhile bow wow has a video out of chris brown bowling
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 May 2009 01:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
just to make the point that i've never gone "ugh fuck kanye" like that b4 - this sounds really stupid but yknow over the last 6 years or whatever i feel like i've got a pretty rounded handle on the lassitudes of his persona and whatnot and this thing really has crossed a new and different line in crassness, even if he didnt mean it like it sounds. he is just bang out of order imo.
feel free to convince me otherwise, but.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 28 May 2009 01:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
this is... unfortunate i think. it def fits into kanye's career - cassie in the "stronger" video, even him showing up in that hilson video even tho he's not in the song - and def fits his personality of trying to always make as big of a splash as possible. and i think in his mind he's doing something good for her, but he's putting her on display and exploiting her, and i don't think that he would've chosen her to be in this video if it wasn't for the battery incident and the fact that she disappeared from the public eye because of it. since it's kanye there's no doubt that he's trying to make some statement with it - and duh it's block headed - but i can't really figure out what it is, except maybe the empowerment angle, and if that's true it's just very poorly executed. i think i have to side with rtc on this one.
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
showing up in that hilson video even tho he's not in the song
?????
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
trying to make a deal out of having pointless starpower in videos even tho videos rarely have impact on anything anymore
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
but...he's on the song
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah wtf
― songz in the key of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
how soon we forget "dessert OR DISASTER"
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
nah nah nah
there was a video for "make love" where her and keri fondle each other on a bed iirc - universal calls it a "viral commercial" whatever the hell that means - anyway the embed's not gonna work cuz it's on universal's youtube channel, but click thru
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
calling kanye "her" = a freudian slip
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
really kinda kanye's publicity grab was brought up on the chris brown thread around the same time this comes out
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 May 2009 02:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
kinda surprised, rather
big lolz @ a 'viral commercial' that's managed to go virtually unnoticed for a month despite starring someone who i find myself hearing about every damn time i look any any website ever
even bigger lolz @ it being shot during kanye's brief mullet period
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 03:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
i hope his next album has some lines about his mullet period like "yeah that tuxedo might've been a little guido"
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 03:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
if chris brown smacked kanye > or < than hamilton's assistant punching him?
― im drunk so no forks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
<<< yung berg running into a wall and knocking himself out
― gabb nebula (some dude), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
nothing will top hamilton getting punched and i'd rather see ye punch chris if anything
― hazmat yayo (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh right, so he is actually bowline, why didn't they just put the camera at eye level?
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 28 May 2009 09:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
the actual video isn't really offensive at all
― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 18:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_en_mu/us_people_chris_brown
brown pleads guilty
― Arch Cancerped (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
5 years probation is probably a bitch but i think he should've gone to prison for some amount of time
― whiney g. gordon liddy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i heard some dumb chick call into the radio like "5 years is a long time, that was really harsh" smh
― my mans paul tsongas (some dude), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 02:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow, if he's straight copping to it then fuck yeah he should've done some prison time.if there's any good from this, it's the judge imposing a two-way restraining order so both of them can make some kind of attempt to reset. But really, beating people badly then admitting to it should involve some punitive measures shouldn't it? NAGL.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, but the way our legal system works, you generally get off easier if you plea out
― body merkin (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
also if you're spectacularly rich.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
dickface
http://theybf.com/index.php/2009/07/07/chris-browns-300k-oops/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
i gotta say, i'm not at all mad at jay-z for blackballing chris from the BET awards MJ tribute
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
as much as people say "LOL JAYZ SCARED OF AUTOTUNE OH NOES", it's nice that he's not so concerned with going where the money is that he can still call chris brown a dickhead
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
omg what the hell
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
holy shit @ whiney's link - i think at this age he's leaning a bit closer to "huge fucking dick" to "a kid with good intentions making bad decisions (ie bow wow video)"
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
you stay class, Chris Brown.
― The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
i wonder what the people he's surrounding himself with are saying to him.wouldn't one of them say "hey dude, the 300K not my fault pendant? I'd let that one pass for the next few months"
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think it's been well established that lots of famous people (and i guess powerful people in general) only surround themselves with yes men so i doubt that chris brown's assistant is going to risk his scorn by going "uh that chain you just paid $300k for is probably in bad taste and you should never actually wear it"
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
and like i think i would be able to give the chain a pass on some "alright you are clearly young and dumb" shit if it said SORRY or IDIOT or basically anything but OOPS!
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
really the only way this could be worse was if the chain said OOPS ¯\(°_o)/¯
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
"my bad dawg"?
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
i can think of lots of other ways that this could be worse
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
the true hero here is the jeweler, who milked him out of $300K and made him look like an asshole
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 21:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
coming here to post that I just had lunch one table over from chris (and entourage) not fifteen minutes ago at American rag on la brea. They were necking out MILFs and giggling about it. and his bentley's license plate is MRBENT
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 22:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
HI DERE otm, and i have no problem with him making horrible tasteless decisions like this if it makes it that much harder for him to rehabilitate his image and have a career again
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's too bad the text-on-crotch BAPE look is so last year because I think he'd look good with "SHE STARTED IT" in neon orange across the front of his jeans
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
I sincerely wish with all my heart that someone would beat the everliving shit out of him and put him in the fucking hospital
― tbqf fridays (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
is it weird that i've always had such a strong dislike for him and general impression that he's a huge asshole that my opinion of him hasn't actually changed much at all in the past 6 months? like i at least feel justified for it now, but the feeling's pretty much the same.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah I feel the same some dude
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
tho I will say that the self-righteousness of certain anti-Chris people gets on my nerves
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
fifteen minutes ago at American rag on la brea
you get some new shoes?
― velko, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
there's no way that chain could be a direct reference to beating the shit out of rihanna...that's just way too stupid for any human being to do let alone spend 300k on. Doesn't his mom like manage him or something??? you'd think she would say, "hey, maybe get a different word"
or is there just no judgment going on in this kid's world
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
he's probably outgrown mom management and based on his first public apology being from inside lil bow wows batcave bowling alley i don thtink it's a stretch to say that it's a direct reference to the rihanna situation - what else is he saying? "oops! im rich as hell!"?
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
also i agree, i would like to see chris brown get beat up unmercifully and i for one really love his music - beating a woman that badly and then having no discernible remorse is just beyond despicable
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
who are you to say that he has no remorse? I mean, I don't get the calls for him to "apologize" - i'm sure he's apologized to rihanna and that's really all that matters.. and he's been through the legal system and has been dealt his punishment.. honestly what more do you want from him?
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't necessarily think he needs to beg the public's forgiveness, but he's carried the whole thing relly petulantly, like he can't believe anyone's holding it against him (i.e. that video where he plugs his albuma nd goes "everybody that's hataz, they just been hataz")
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
who are you to say that he has no remorse? I mean, I don't get the calls for him to "apologize" - i'm sure he's apologized to rihanna and that's really all that matters.. and he's been through the legal system and has been dealt his punishment.. honestly what more do you want from him?― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:00 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:00 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I would like him to become a mod on ILX and ban you
― tbqf fridays (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
and honestly though I've never been a fan of Chris, the whole BET Awards situation - if the Jay-Z rumors are true - is majorly fucked up.. Chris would've been the perfect person to pay tribute to MJ, and it has been said that the Jackson family requested Chris for the show, so really I don't get why they would pull him because of Jay-Z... I mean, who cares about Jay-Z anyway? And the BET Awards would've at least been somewhat watchable if he had performed.... it was disastrous.
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
who needed to see him do a MJ routine again? go watch a rerun of the '07 VMAs.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
shipley otm
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
on all fronts
there are like a dozen other R&B singers who have sold as many records as Chris Brown that are as big or bigger MJ stans than he is, and many of them performed that night, so who gives a fuck if he wasn't there to represent with Usher and Ginuwine?
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
Well I would've rather seen Chris pay tribute than have Ciara "sing" 'Heal The World'...
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
well fuck if i saw the show, i don't know if some competent mimicry would've been an improvement, i'm just saying.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
i would've rather done anything else than watch bet's tribute to michael jackson - oh wait, that's exactly what i did
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
well good for you
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
I for one was looking forward to the tribute and it was really awful on a number of levels, I think Chris would've been a nice addition to it.
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm just sayin...it's one thing to be a little bit of a dick about it (like he's been) but then to go out and buy a chain that ostensibly says LOOK I DID IT AND NOW I'm LAUGHING ABOUT IT in 300 grand worth of diamond is like a whole new level of malice
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^ yes
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
also, i'm not saying the kid should never get to sell a record again, or that his tribute to MJ wouldn't have been well done and sincere, i just think that him going on TV for that and doing the stupid Game song could've been his attempt to use this whole thing as an opportunity to sneak out of the penalty box and sail back into the public's good graces, which is gross.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
is it really one thing to be a little bit of a dick about it? - i mean you'd think the mindset would be "wow people are acting like dicks to me, but then again i did beat my girlfriend senselessly for no reason whatsoever"
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't really know of anything he's done that has been so bad in response (clearly not defending the actual act, of course) so maybe I missed something...but it just seems like it's so moronically un-self aware that it must be impossible
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
he pretty much got away with it. save losing the doublemint sponsorship bawww
― tbqf fridays (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
I honestly think it means OOPS I SPENT 300K ON A CHAIN. seriously.
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's a post T-Pain big ass chain chain...he set a precedent for meta-chains
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Honestly, I find his misuse of resources that could put a small graduating class through four years of college more despicable and offensive than a poorly thought out slogan on a garish piece of junk. Fuck's sake: if he had written "I'M SORRY" in burning hundred dollar bills stacked five feet high, it would be just as ugly, stupid, hateful and egotistical as this obscenity.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm just going to repost this:
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Blood Diamonds '09 featuring T-Pain (Breezy Refix)
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
I mean I seriously can't look at this thing without cracking the fuck up:
Does he think he's living in a comic book?
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
(also for a split-second I thought the bit that says "graffiti" said "OPRAH")
dimestore psych/
I think he really believes he's part of the post-modern pantheon and, god help us all, hes probably right.
/dimestore psych
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp, first look i thought it read "Crappity"
"the post-modern pantheon"
waht.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't think the Chris Browns of the world are on the Kanye/Gaga "THIS IS POP ART" train yet, but they probably will be by the year's end, so hey
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
modern pantheon: marilyn, james dean, elvis, john lennon, mj whatever
pomopantheon more like: jay, britney, b, lohan... people who are better known and adored by more people than say, stephen hawking, and who (think they can /actually get to) live in a world above and beyond moral imperative
it's early in the morning for me and i've been reading grant morrison; I may be spouting bullshit. hence the /dimestore tag
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
thank you, dimestore tag darrell
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
some dude, Brown was absolutely headed that route; I may be putting too much weight on the "ANDY WARHOL IS DEAD" shirt breezy wore in the Freeze video. Actually fuck that: everybody's embracing superfatuous superflat at the moment. Not having meaning is the new having meaning.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha i forgot about that shirt, maybe my estimation was off by a few months
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
real talk your post about Kanye's pomo bullshit in the 808s thread was some truth bomb shit to me, so i'm not fronting on your ideas at all
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
fwiw I thought you just wanted to make a Dimebag Darrell joke (because I did and I am king of projection)
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
needs to break out a 'ike turner is dead' shirt before he truly makes the pomo grade.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh my god i just refreshed the page and saw the updated "1 year passes""1 week passes" that appear to have been newly implemented and I thought I had accidentally clicked to another thread and someone WAS QUOTING THIS THREAD in some sort of an odd way and I had a moment of psychotropic freakout
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp, didn't think you were dude. i blame kanye for a lot. proving there was a market for this stuff condemned us all to have to repeat it for the next few years
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
wtf. wow chris brown.
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
otm on the pomo reading
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
I lol'd at the pendant but mostly because its so unbelievably fucking ugly. dude spent 3k on that? Loser.
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
no, he spent 300K on it
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
kanye is like a super virus worming his way through all of hip hop and r&b turning everyone into passive aggressive bitches that dress like breakdance movie extras
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
I can't tell if that ruins or saves "The Matrix"
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp yes and to think that some people dared to claim that ANDRE 3000 was to blame...so is it safe to say that the SOft Serve Space Age Raps has given way to pomo trappings in the greater pop landscape? Are all our popstars going to be walking superflat vacuums of unaware fastuousness
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Are all our popstars going to be walking superflat vacuums of unaware fastuousness
um for the most part this is how pop stars have been since the beginning of pop
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
besides a few have any gone so far as to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on completely meaningless yet totally meta and sefl-referantial walking advertisements of their own vapid postmodernism? like a BIG ASS CHAIN chain or an OOPS chain?
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
man on the real, i probably talked shit about andre at the height of the whole thing and daaaaamn....how dumb was I? andre is like one billion times more quality that any of these new jack shitheads and jesus who was i to question the man that made southerplayalistic and atliens and aquemini and etc etc?
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
The thing is, Andre actually knew how to build a narrative.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
kanye is like a super virus worming his way through all of hip hop and r&b turning everyone into passive aggressive bitches that dress like breakdance movie extras― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n big headturning-in-the-office-"what's-so-funny?" LOLZ on that
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
not to get all KRS-1 up in here but where is a quality hip hop star that will reject swag in favor of big upping your community? Fuck your car, fuck your jewelry, fuck your news-op foundation charity bullshit; i want Lil Wayne to embrace a full on sinead o'connor middle-class life where he gives his mansion to refugees. Is it too much to ask to expect JUST ONE UNDERTALENTED OVERPAID MOTHERFUCKER to do a "oh god how i'm wasting my life" headspin and devote their lives to a good cause while still making music? Even if it was just legalization of marijuana for crissakes.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
there hasn't been anybody in hiphop like that in a long time
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
i too am aching for a quality hip hop star to change their life around and in the process start making completely boring music
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
there hasn't been anybody in rock music like that in awhile either, in that case
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
ur princess is in another castle
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
the rappers who actually give a shit about community activism or giving back to the hood don't have the time to become famous too and the rappers who are already rich and have half a conscience just cut a check for the pet cause of the year and then keep it moving
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
i mean every rapper i know here talks about how they'd "give back to the hood" if they made it big, but the only ones who actually would probably won't blow up because they're already doing social work or running rec centers and don't need $ to make a difference anyway
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
having their cake and eating it too, basically
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
However, Juvenile's Slidell, Louisiana home was damaged but not destroyed in Hurricane Katrina near the end of the summer. In the aftermath of the hurricane, he worked with fellow New Orleans rapper Master P and other hip hop artists to raise funds and supplies for the victims of the hurricane.
ha, i only knew this because at his jazzfest show a few years ago he was mad that the crowd wasn't giving him enough love or something, and was all "come on, don't you know what i've done for this community?!"
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha
yeah that's another thing, the established guys actually doing shit partly have the time for it because their career's already on the wane
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
kinda agree with forks' rant tbh
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
i mean someone as in demand as T.I. isn't going to spend a huge amount of his time doing community service unless a judge tells him to. xpost
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's weird whenever i read people dissing hip-hop that's trying to be positive (even when the music is ok), like it's some kind of weak move.
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Juvie does seem to have a solid track record with being civic minded from what I know.I dunno; maybe there just needs to be a coalition to shame these guys into doing a Stop the Violence style movement to do a needle exchange or asthma inhaler distribution or turn-in-your-gun amnesty. Works in the NFL/NBA.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
TI is in a good position to engineer this sorta thing! If he gave a shit.
A lot of cats is just getting money. Like “this some shit I do to get money.” Get money, there ain’t nothing wrong with that. If you did something and the numbers came in right then by all means [get paid]. But if you looking at this like “this is just something I do to get money” then you don’t really love this shit. You don’t breathe it, you don’t believe it. So you can make the statement that there’s some bullshit. But if you really love this… - Manny Fresh
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
^really outta context, but still appropriate i think.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
i gotta say, even tho it might've been hamhanded and sometimes was like "hey im playing a concert!", guys like jeezy and luda and jay-z did some decent work for obama and just getting people in lower income neighborhoods registered to vote in general - it was way better and more hands on than VOTE OR DIE shit and hopefully kind of set a tone for how rappers should approach elections moving forward
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
like i know tons of ppl who are way less busy than young jeezy who did waaaaaay less to get people registered to vote
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i have to say even though there was some pretty dumb shit going on in rap last year re: Obama (cough Luda cough) for the most part those guys didn't drop the ball, had the right amount of involvement without either doing too little or becoming too much a part of the story
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Uh, David Banner, guys
― WS not WS (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^ good example
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
he probably really is putting his money where his mouth is, since he makes all his $ on movies now and seems to take a lot of time between projects
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
More genuinely political hip hop, both in action and in verse, is always welcome. The Obama camp's very delicate dance with Jay was another damning indictment of the way that mainstream america views contemporary hip hop now; the president can't even cop to enjoying the music!
i still wanna see some for real old schoolagitate educate organizeagitate educate organizeagitate educate organizeaction
banner's a really bright guy; his loudmouthed homophobia is pretty distressing, but he's definitely a positive otherwise. Shame that he's been kinda eh on the singles lately.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
uh, weren't there a billion articles last year about how Barack has Jay-Z on his iPod?
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
banner's a really bright guy; his loudmouthed homophobia is pretty distressing
^^seems contradictory
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's possible to like books and hate bitches at the same time
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
er, hate fags i should say
no idea why i feel the need to make these points on the breezy thread except that this nudnik throwing away 300K on that piece of shit is almost as upsetting to me as his violent streak. so indicative of a sick culture.
xxp - ever heard barack quote a jigga line?
xp - yeah, point granted omar.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
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yeeeeah but iirc jay got shutout of prime seating at his acceptance speech
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
opposite of kanye?
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
ever heard barack quote a jigga line?
why does this matter
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
he's a bright homophobic rapper who condemns capitalist culture and sings about big rims and strives to freak out the white middle class when he's not acting in hollywood movies
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ronan909: "q theres a line on jay z's the blueprint, it reads simply 'i will not lose ever FUCKER'"
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
it matters because his appreciation of jay-z HAS to be abstract to be acceptable. and yes, there were plenty of articles about obama's camp having a hard time finding a way to officially host a jay show without becoming affiliated with Jay's more socially offensive lyrics
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
getting lunch, but enjoying this convo.
i dunno, i've got enough friends who deal with homophobic bullshit to not give some asshole like banner a pass on that shit, even if it means he's "complex" (kinda why i can't really forget cube's anti-semitism.) these dudes are awesome artists who just don't need to traffic in that shit.
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't know about you but it has never crossed my mind to attempt to drop a reference to "Lady Cab Driver" or "Siamese Twins" into anything I've done in the capacity of my job. Not only do I not see why it matters whether the President quotes Jay-Z or not, I really don't see what difference it makes if he likes Jay-Z or not; that is not why I voted for him. Perhaps if we were taking a road trip together and he wanted to control the music I would care.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
i dunno, i'm not disturbed at all by BO's campaign having to be thoughtful about how to handle associating with any rapper -- they were thoughtful and cautious about everything, which is part of why they won. and i think it'll be a lot less touchy in the 2012 campaign, more open and laid back.
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Turnswagonesque (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i mean i can understand why the obama people would balk at having jay do an official concert, but tbh at that point it's up to jay to say "okay, i understand" and use his general celebrity to help contribute in meaningful ways (not only donations) and it seemed like he was willing to do that in general
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
omar: "some of my best friends" on my end too; I am maybe more accepting of homophobia and general hatred in my music than I should be. I just like Mississippi too much to be too objective
hi dere: my point is that it's a strange oddity for Obama to "like" Jay and that it's acceptable only to the extent that people don't ask what his favorite Jay song is or why he likes him... not problems that he would run into with, say fleetwood mac. It's a fucked up world where you can't like the music you like because it would mess with your political potential. and i probably HAVE made reference to lady cab driver on the job, but that's just me.
dude: one hopes it'll be more laid back, but I kinda doubt it unless hip hop culture matures or infantilizes even more.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
Americans in acting weirdly about a newish style of music pioneered/dominated by black people shocker!
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i hope hip hop is a new kind of music for another 30 years
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
i dunno man -- Obama talked about and referenced and was photographed with Jay-Z more than any president has with any other rapper -- for you to make such a big deal about it not being enough is kinda weird to me. like HI DERE said, what does it even matter? this is like the "is he black enough?" handwringing that most people got over or answered for themselves a year and a half ago, at the latest.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
this is like the "is he black enough?" handwringing that most people got over or answered for themselves a year and a half ago, at the latest
I am glad you said this so that I didn't have to.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
i will never vote for someone that doesn't like jay-z, if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything IMO
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
oy, this is not a point I would've expected to be called extensively on? and also not one I really feel like defending. it's not a question of "being enough"; I'm not slagging on O.my only point was that hip hop stars being active in the political world is welcome but given the degree to which they're not taken seriously as role-models, intellects, artists or really ANYTHING but businessmen; I have to wonder how worthwhile that role is.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i didn't mean to drag it out or push you into a corner, i just thought you were trying to make one point by pressing a different and possibly unrelated angle. anyway, lord knows jay's been spending much of the last 6 years ago cultivating a more worldly "jay guevera" type image, but he spent about a decade before that talking money cash hoes too -- of course the establishment is gonna handle him w/ kid gloves, even if it's a newly elected 'change'-themed establishment.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
hip hop stars are totally taken seriously as artists wtf
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
well yeah but probably less so than any other musicians
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
i still know people who refuse to call it "music"
― enbba champions (omar little), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
just wanna say that i like that this discussion is happening in the chris brown thread
― Roz, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
my feeling is that even if genre/race/etc distorts things a bit, musicians generally get the amount of public respect they earn with their music and actions -- Jay-Z is totally respected, Ja Rule isn't, not that hard to figure out why.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^^some dude OTM
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
i find that people are more biased against anything popular than rap - people who hate lady gaga are probably gonna hate 50 cent but they'll probably rep for mos def or wyclef or uh jurassic 5
― ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
not any blinding insight here, but jay's sorta the madonna of the rap game; he's been real adept at metamorphosing into whatever works for his image without giving up too much cred. It's put him in a good position to be a spokesperson even when he doesn't really represent much about the majority of the people in his profession.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
people who hate lady gaga are probably gonna hate 50 cent
yep that's me
but they'll probably rep for mos def
I thought he was funny in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
or wyclef
FUCK NO
or uh jurassic 5
DOUBLE FUCK NO
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
I state with confidence that most of the people I know IRL have no fucking clue who Jurassic 5 is, have never heard Mos Def rap and still think of The Fugees once you explain who Wyclef is.
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
I hate to say it...but on ILM (not IRL) I think J5 is almost underrated at this point
― bodyguard/publicist Tank (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
big xp to forx:ostentatious spending beyond all sensibility may be a symptom of a specific culture out of control right now but let's not try to say that misogyny or beating a woman is, too!
― .rar .rar riot (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
ha kudos for bringing this back to Chris Brown
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah kudos indeedand i think violence as a means to solve problems is absolutely endemic to way too much of hip hop culture; though with Brown i think it's more just about star culture and a belief that one won't be held responsible for one's actions... which the system has proven to be an accurate belief.
I will ride for more than a few J5 songs. They're fine.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah but CB totally thinks that he's a badass and the only reason he's not a rapper is that he can sing
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
with Brown i think it's more just about star culture and a belief that one won't be held responsible for one's actions
eh some people are just jerks - rich/poor, famous/unknown, doesn't matter really. I mean if it was "star culture" that was responsible for this how come we don't see this kinda shit more often among the glitterati.
― Apollo C. Vermouth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
you're kidding, right?
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 20:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.vibe.com/news/magazine_features/2005/02/vibe_magazine_love_hurts_raps_black_eye/
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
Dear Elizabeth M. Berry and her web editors:
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That is the paragraph tag. Please look up its use.
Sincerely, Dan
― her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
that's just the sort of thing that'll make me cancel my vibe subscription.
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't think that will be necessary lol
― Sleep Causes Cancer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 22:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
what's that, honey? oh no, that's not a shooting star. that's just a joke sailing over shakey's head. you can make a wish if you want, though.
― WELCOME TO GLAM ROCK (some dude), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 22:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
lolz
― Sleep Causes Cancer (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
sorry my sarcasm detector seems to be on the fritz
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 July 2009 21:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok if you described that to me on paper i'd be hatin' but for real that made me smile big time
― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, 23 July 2009 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
if a bomb killed the entire wedding party i can't say i'd be too upset
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
okay so based on the Related Videos, wedding dance entrances are a "thing"? christ
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
jesus christ that video is adorable
― la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
"Remember that time we danced to the gum song by the guy who beats women at Jimmy's first wedding? Good times."
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Honestly that's about three million times better than pomp and circumstance. Anything that makes weddings less boring, I'm for it.
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
Actually I would take pomp and circumstance over "hey, you know what would be HILARIOUS???"
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm
― max, Friday, 24 July 2009 17:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
kindof amazing when the bride comes out @ the end
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh wow @ that for real :D
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 July 2009 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh literally as i was watching that, andy roddick tweeted it :/
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 July 2009 18:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
andy roddick looks like that other guy from dude where's my car
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 24 July 2009 18:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
I would take pomp and circumstance over "hey, you know what would be HILARIOUS???"― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkok if you described that to me on paper i'd be hatin' but for real that made me smile big time― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is some serious pollworthy TS
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
i want to say im surprised at the h8 the video generates but i cant really say that i am
― max, Saturday, 25 July 2009 11:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Didn't watch the whole thing, but given the soundtrack I imagine the groom beats the bride to a bloody pulp at the end.
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 July 2009 13:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
― makeithypnagogicpop (some dude), Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:17 PM (2 days ago)
― SB Idiot (k3vin k.), Saturday, 25 July 2009 15:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
that was so cute
do people say shit like this when people dance to charged wife beater james brown?
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
actually convicted
― da croupier, Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
james brown wrote songs about gum?
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
and quite frankly, if you dance down the aisle to sex machine, you get a pass for life
"get off my feet"
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 25 July 2009 17:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
"R.C.s Mom" by the Dead Milkmen to thread
― President Keyes, Saturday, 25 July 2009 18:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
LOL.
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Seriously though, the choice of artist is oO
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't know when the video was shot, but the song was out and a big hit way before this February, it's possible the wedding happened earlier than that
― some dude, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'd say it's absolutely the case that this was before the Grammys
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
No, it was recorded and published last week if I recall correctly.
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
― can i ox (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 August 2009 08:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
now that's what I call a hard-hitting beat
― salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 24 August 2009 08:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's no "humpin around"
― da croupier, Monday, 24 August 2009 08:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
dude needs to change the narrative imo. Next video should have a wedding party or something, jump on that while the body is still warm u no?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 24 August 2009 20:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/31/chris.brown.interview/index.html
― I have a set of penises leftover from some bach party somewhere (HI DERE), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow, the baby blue bowtie of remorse -- they're bringing out the big guns
― snrubber soul (some dude), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
tfg, for real
― stfuhut (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 August 2009 18:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
Auditioning for Stepbrothers 2
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 August 2009 19:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
From Yahoo! headlines:
"Chris Brown says he doesn't remember beating Rihanna"
It was unimportant to him he forgot it immediately. What a monster.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
shit, this interview is hard to watch
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
fourfour otm re: this
― some dude, Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh lemme read that
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
The most assholish scenario (and don't count it out) is that he's implying that something he would reveal would turn the public against Rihanna. Unless she beat him with a puppy that then died, I doubt it.
― cherokee flux (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i agree w/ rich too
kinda thought larry was being a bit of an asshole when he brought up his mom being abused in the past and tried to imply that it was partly her fault. though after she responded about "how the situation affected her" i had little sympathy for her
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
the CB situation, that is
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
hahaha I thought you meant her own abuse at first and was all "wau o_O"
― cherokee flux (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha yeah i reread that and thought i should clarify
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
#chrisbrown'sbowtie is a trending topic on twitter
― write about this significant and fascinating and comlex artist (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
fucking twitter
― cherokee flux (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
fucking bowtie
― Breezy Boner! :P (some dude), Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
Didn't see the interview, what did CB's mom say about how the situation affected her?
― matt2, Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
basically she commented on he way the "media" had treated her son and she felt bad for him for having to go through this. and i totally get that she's his MOM and wants to stand by her kid, but her even bringing that up filled me with so much rage, especially since she's a victim of abuse as well
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2009 20:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
i can't believe he can't even get a simple apology right, that his handlers didn't block the many inappropriate cringeworthy moments of the interview (romeo & juliet references? REALLY????), that he keeps falling short of even my ever-lowering expectations of him.
i'm not "rooting for him", but i'd love him to genuinely show that abusers can reform, can commit to changing their behaviour, to show genuine remorse. and...this is just so far from that. CAN YOU NOT EVEN TRY FAKING IT, CHRIS.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
I can't stop thinking about that bow tie, it is crazy.
― The ever dapper nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 3 September 2009 23:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
All he needed to do was say he was sorry, he's getting help and he's donating a shit ton of money to domestic abuse support groups. It's just stunning that he's not capable of sticking to a simple script. Kind of a douche, eh?
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2009 04:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
at least he's legally obligated to stay away from ri-ri
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2009 04:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
and that's very least
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2009 06:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
Dude has some sort of disorder which forces him to mug to the camera
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2009 06:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
alright well the new new one is kind of great
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
hook might be underwritten but beat is @_@
WHHHHHHHHHHHHOAAAAAAAAAAAAA
― chris drown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am transformed
if you're gonna beat the fuck out of a chick the least you can do for the world is buy this beat and have the starpower to get it on the radio
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's pretty good and the beat is pretty nuts (swizz?) but i'm already bracing myself for the "transform your face" "jokes"
― some brood (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm going to choose to not post whiney's corny transform your face joke itt
― rather shipped (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Okay, THIS is what i'm talkin' bout.
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
tbf, i did immediately say the joke was "forks-level"
― chris drown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
hahaha tbh i may have had the word "forks" in that post before deciding not to name names
― some brood (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 05:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
between this and "disturbia" i'm starting to wonder if chris brown can only be inspired to write songs after watching shia lebeouf movies
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
song ain't really that hot, either, the whole thing is like a smudgy xerox of "upgrade you"
smudgy xerox of "upgrade you" w/ interesting beat >>>> any of these "leaked" ballady things prior
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
god I love that haters gonna hate .gif
is this guy's career still "over" lolz
― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
lil fat boy in that gif looks like he's on the verge of a total pratfall. i'd point and laugh.
chris brown song is half-ok but happily not amazing enough that i'll want to listen to it too much again. kinda unfortunate lyrics :/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
"is this guy's career still "over" lolz"
Oh yeah that's right there was a whole group of people arguing that, wasn't there?
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
well idk, a few leaked trax (still unofficial right?) don't prove anything either way except that dude's been in the studio and a few people are still prepared to work w/him. it could well completely bomb.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'd say even if it gets released it's still proof that you can do the most heinous shit and basically get away with it if you are famous enough.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
non-famous convicted abusers can probably also expect their family and friends to rally round them after they've done their punishment too - violent men of any status don't tend to get ostracised completely.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Maybe Dr Dre should have produced it.
― musically, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
― 51 ways to leave ilxor (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 22:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
was wondering where affion was doing his impressions now that wild n out doesn't exist anymore
― no hongro (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 October 2009 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's nice that he found someone who wears large sunglasses to do an impression of so that he's doing "____ with huge creepy circles under his eyes"
something especially sad about a bad rap song parody where they can't even find the instrumental of the original (or a girl who can sing as well as rihanna lol)
― australia.baby.train.escape (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
is "sing as well as rihanna" a euphemism? because if taken literally it makes little sense
― musically, Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
i literally mean the girl on the song can't sing even as well as rihanna which is not very well...i hope i hoped u parse that
― hand (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
i hope i HELPed er
you can't see me but i'm making the "whoosh" gesture right now
― musically, Saturday, 17 October 2009 05:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
transformer doesn't hold up that well on repeat listening.
― Does the hole come standard or did you have to special order it (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 October 2009 15:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
if taken any way your zing made little sense, musically, so i was giving you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't a zing
― hand (some dude), Saturday, 17 October 2009 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
this is TERRIBLE
shit sounds like U2
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 06:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
all these new big horrible ballads are so big and horrible ("papers" aside)
― everybody loves am0n (J0rdan S.), Friday, 23 October 2009 06:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't know if i like it, but amazingly enough i don't hate it
― some dude, Friday, 23 October 2009 06:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
― 51 sent (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 04:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
― 51 sent (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 04:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
took me a while but LOLOLOL
― musically, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 06:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 06:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
looking forward to this tbh, still put on exclusive whn theres nobody around to judge
― plaks (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 12:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok i am so disappointed that the bowtie isn't really a part of the actual cover
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
'I Can Transform You' and 'Crawl' - why did dude pick songtitles that sounds (to me anyway) so misogynistic and 'lol i beat her up good'?
also lolololol at that cover, bowtie or no.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
I dunno, those are both pretty abstract connections, especially "Crawl." I mean, unless every song was titled something like "Fairy Princess" or "Pillows Are Soft" people are going to bend over backward to find some vaguely violent or insensitive connotations to them.
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, but how fucking awesome would an album full of 'Fairy Princess' and 'Pillows Are Soft' type songs be?
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
looking at that cover, we may yet find out
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
he should wear a darth vader mask and call the new album NAZI
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
he should wear a white tank top and call the new album WIFEBEATER
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^^yesssss
― because I used to be a nuclear physicist (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Andy K, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
we haven't yet discussed THE METAL HAND
― 51 sent (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
because Beyonce did the cyborg hand thing already a year ago and it's like the 80th most WTF thing about that cover?
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
i love the capslock for the whole tweet and then "its called fashion" like he's saying that one part with a quiet intensity
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
"MechanicalDummy"!!!!!
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
seriously tho' dude has a major 'rock and rule' visual thing goin' on there.i really wish he'd just laid low through 2010 and gotten his shit in order. I feel like he's gonna run head on into a wall critically, sales-wise and artistically.
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
if the hexes i been putting on him amount to anything it'll be literally too
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 20:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
k3vin wikk4
― plaks (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
uh wicc4
Had to check whether I was misremembering him rhyming 'habit' w/ 'Roger Rabbit' in "Get Like Me" but I guess his buddies are more Cool World.
― xcixxorx, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
k3v u are such an internet gangster
― a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
if i still had that camron\m/.gif i'd post it right here
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Bears Are Alive! (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 12:50 PM Bookmark
same cyborg hand she used to brutalize young hove?
― swagless price (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh i thought you just meant it was WTF on aesthetic terms. i dunno, i hate dude and think about what he did every time his stupid song comes on the radio, but i just don't see a song titled "crawl" or him w/ a metal hand on a record cover and instantly come up with some weird mental association with him hitting rihanna like you guys.
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
neither do i - though "i can transform ya" walked into it rather - but it's all rather unrepentantly aggressive
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
also i'm o_0 at how the expected laying-low period after an incident like this is no longer, like, 1-2 years, but...a few months.
except for the fitted girl pants (xpost)
― the tuppence takes manhattan (some dude), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 00:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
honestly i'm just relieved that comeback duet Polow was trumpeting mere weeks later never materialized
― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 03:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
― But no hope for norwegian posters, sorry. (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 04:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's like he's daring the people that would normally buy his CDs with this.
― Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 06:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
i actually see it with those boots on the orig cover anyway, everytime my eyes focus on a different part of the pic i'm like wtf? and have to check
― plaks (I know, right?), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
havin crazy impure thoughts tbh
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 15 November 2009 01:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
cassie still has that haircut apparently
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 15 November 2009 01:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
his interview on 106 and park was deplorable; kept going on about how "it happened and i have to take responsibility for it" with no acknowledgment of what "it" was. "I know I am what the public makes me." Ugh. Just a bass-ackwards kid running in circles, unable to make any sense of what he's doing or come to terms with how to change.
― because she looks awesome, like in the face (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 November 2009 21:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah...at this point i kinda want him to keep giving these half-assed interviews full of unconsidered comments until he gets enough rope to slip up and say something really fucked up that people can't look past.
― some dude, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
Having him do roadside cleanup was a bad call; judge should've given him 2000 hours at a halfway home for victims of abuse. He really doesn't seem to understand what's happened except specifically in terms of how it affects him and his entourage. It's mystifying.
― because she looks awesome, like in the face (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
The Lex writes for the Guardian:
Rihanna's leadership on domestic abuse
― Alba, Sunday, 22 November 2009 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
loool, nice dig @ la roux!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
rihanna in the guardian was real inspirational:
"A whole thing happened overnight this year," she says, "the night before the biggest performance of my career, as well as 10 days before I became 21. It was a turning point. It was the end of an incredible year, an incredible album [Good Girl Gone Bad], the beginning of a new era, and it just felt like it was a wake-up call for me, and it had to happen. As bad and as terrible as it was, there's so much great that came out of that situation." I must look surprised, but she continues. "Even for him [I assume she means Chris Brown], like, he knows now that he's never going to do that again. And now, young girls also, they learn from it, and I really hope young men can learn from it. Even more than the girls, the men really need to learn from it. Because everyone's focusing on the women, but the problem isn't the women."Rihanna spoke about the attack recently in an interview on US TV, discussing the fact that Brown was "definitely my first big love", explaining that she briefly reconciled with him in the weeks after the assault, and then decided her actions were setting a bad example for young girls. "I realised that my selfish decision for love could result in some girl getting killed," she said. "I could not be easy with that part. I couldn't be held responsible for telling them, go back. Even if Chris never hit me again, who's to say that [their abusers] won't kill these girls?"
Rihanna spoke about the attack recently in an interview on US TV, discussing the fact that Brown was "definitely my first big love", explaining that she briefly reconciled with him in the weeks after the assault, and then decided her actions were setting a bad example for young girls. "I realised that my selfish decision for love could result in some girl getting killed," she said. "I could not be easy with that part. I couldn't be held responsible for telling them, go back. Even if Chris never hit me again, who's to say that [their abusers] won't kill these girls?"
― rap band (schlump), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's completely my fault for stooping to reading it, but MY GOD the comment section.
― lyrically launched salvo on a plethora of esteemed artist (The Reverend), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
Beat me once, shame on you.Beat me twice, shame on me.
Beat me twice, shame on me.
― rap band (schlump), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 21 January 2010 20:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
that's awesome, wish I could dl it
― musically, Saturday, 23 January 2010 02:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
ive never used this but here's a supposed youtube-to-mp3 converter
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've used those before, sound quality sucks unfortunately
― musically, Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
loool i forgot to post the site, here it is if you want it: http://dirpy.com/
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown's career: still going
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10263828.stm
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
nice
― donk quixote (The Reverend), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
so the crying breakdown on mtv - sorry if there's another thread where this is being discussed, didn't see anything in new answers - anyway, people who come w/the "publicity stunt!" angle: what the hell is wrong w/such people is my question
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
it was on bet fyi
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
i don't believe for a second that chris brown would be a good enough actor to pull that off, but the whole thing is still pretty disgusting
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
mostly because if this is his show of "remorse" or his realization of his sins, he's a bigger dickhead than we previously thought
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah basically fuck chris brown for all time
― it's detlef season, you schremps (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
nvr frgt:
so glad this guy's career is "over" lol
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
oddly I only caught like the last minute or so of his tribute and was like "wtf is going on, he isn't even singing!"
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
I have absolutely zero doubt that it was a moment of genuine emotion that is rapidly being spun into a publicity stunt.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha same here xpost
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't think it has anything to do with expressing remorse - I grew up in a house with a dude who abused women - agree "fuck Chris Brown" but on the basis of what I experienced personally growing up & what I later learned when I went into the psych biz, the shame & guilt these guys experience (nb: the presence of shame & guilt doesn't mean "therefore you have to give them a break, look how bad they feel") is some take-total-possession-of-your-being stuff - this is largely, make no mistake, a function of narcissism, but what that means is that a big old crying breakdown is the opposite of acting for these guys, kinda
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
fact is that he tried to be part of the MJ tribute on the same awards show a year ago, as part of his initial damage control/career revival and was rebuffed, and it's pretty impossible for him to pick a song like "Man In The Mirror" and for it to not feel like a big deliberate statement. so even if the emotions were real, he's acted like too much of a petulant, unrepentant child who doesn't see what the big deal is about what he did in the past year and a half for me to feel anything for him. it's like yeah, look at the man in the mirror, Chris, he's a talentless dipshit.
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't think "he is acting" and "he is faking it" are equivalent statements.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
Because yeah, as some dude points out picking "Man in the Mirror" as the focal point of your tribute after having the year he's had is saying WAAAAAAY more about Chris Brown than it is about Michael Jackson, and what's it's saying is "I am using a tribute that is supposed to be about a dead legend to tell everyone that I'm really sorry and not a petulant self-absorbed brat who wants everything to be in service of me."
The tears, I'm sure, were completely genuine, but they also feed directly into that self-involved narrative.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yes! this is true. but I mean, that doesn't make the pain from which they spring any less real/felt. I don't know I mean obv. I'm too close to some of this stuff to really be open to probably colder/more realistic readings but when I watch that clip of dude unable to sing I think "wow, it may be that you deserve to suffer, CB, but you're for sure getting the full measure"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
At any rate, if CB really wanted to do a Jackson tribute he should have just danced and not tried to sing any ballads whatsoever since he can't really sing.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
but isn't that "pain" and remorse and the tears just self-pity? "look at the man in the mirror" and see a marginalized and wasted career, not "look in the man in the mirror" and see someone who did wrong by beating his girlfriend?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
if you really want to see the disconnect between critics and pop audiences you should have seen the "FUCK CHRIS BROWN" sentiment from every rock writer I follow on Twitter vs. the "OH MAN CHRIS BROWN WAS AMAZING" from pretty much everyone else on Twitter when you searched "Chris Brown"
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah the choice of song material seems totally self-serving and narcissistic, kinda self-defeating no matter how genuine his breakdown is. it's both genuine and horribly cynical at the same time...
otoh wtf dude you can't even make it through the song/you stopped singing? I thought you were supposed to be a pro, that ain't no pro shit.
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
The point being made (which I agree with) is that the depth of emotion is genuine regardless of how shitty the motivation for it; dude may be crying because everyone hates him more so than because he's a brat with itchy fists but that doesn't mean he isn't really upset.
Maybe you don't learn from self-pity but you sure as hell can hurt from it.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
no, man, not as far as I know, not "just" anyway - a lot of abusers (I can't say "most," but: a lot) hate the shit out of themselves - they know they're monsters, they wish they weren't, but they don't have the inner means to get right - they can sort of tell that the damage they took at some point has fucked them up for good - "self-horror," more like, which, right, is still "limitless self-regard," no doubt - but I mean - most people this fucked up, if there were a way they could make the trade quickly before their narcissism got a chance to talk them out of it, would give up their legs to not be how they are. their lives are very nearly as unpleasant as those of the people whose lives they wreck. that is the paradox of having survived abuse: you have to know, because you saw it first-hand, that the abuser was basically a big pulsating ball of self-hate whose need to not feel helpless couldn't be satisfied except at the expense of the people around him.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
i really am sad that the convicted woman-beater's tribute to the alleged child molester couldn't go on without something weird happening
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
(really the most upsetting thing about this is that this means Chris Brown is going to be back on the radio this fall instead of quietly enrolling in college classes)
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
maybe you haven't paid much attention to the last 18 months or whatever, but Chris Brown hasn't shown a lot of self-hatred or shame, mostly he's acted kind of perplexed and annoyed anytime someone fails to buy his album or play his song on the radio now
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol Whiney
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
actually I will applaud Chris Brown's cast-iron nuts if he releases a song that features the line "girl we can beat this thing/together"
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
well he did do "smooth criminal" last night didn't he?
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol some dude what you see publicly from somebody is maybe what % of what's going on with them, do you suppose - but yr right, I only think about this stuff when it crests my radar i.e. when the guy goes off the rails somehow
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
okay maybe I should actually watch this thing rather than read reactions about it and form STRONG OPINIONS off of that because if he also did "Smooth Criminal" that is so smh that I'm likely to decapitate myself
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
i will say that none of this was as fun as last year when chris brown/dj khaled committed suicide live on TV
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
Don't you guys pay any attention at all to how media narratives work? It goes - rise to stardom>>triumph>>fall from grace>>redemption/comeback
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 6, 2009 12:49 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
I would just like to say "hey me, way to be OTM"
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, June 28, 2010 2:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i agree that you never get the full story with just what the public sees, i'm just saying judging all of his public actions/statements as a whole makes more sense than analyzing just one incident divorced from the context of all the other things they've done and said
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
hahaha okay so they did the "annie are you okay" bit of "smooth criminal" so that chris brown didn't have to say "i'm a smooth criminal"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
are you sure it wasn't like "rih-annie are you okay?"
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
i was gonna say
"robyn, are you okay? are you okay, robyn?"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
The whole Chris Brown/Rihanna thing, from the finger-wagging cultural critics, to the gathering of comments from other musicians and friends, to publicly deconstructing every move he makes in the context of that whole incident, is wretched.
I'm not going to go out on a limb (that will immediately get lopped off) and make any claims to knowing about the guy outside of public persona and highly publicized actions, but has there been any indication that he has a history of being violent to women (or at all)? I mean, no one gets a freebie when it comes to battering the hell out of someone, but painting a scarlet letter on the guy and acting like there's no redemption for anyone who fucks up or room for anyone who's screwed up but has tried to make amends isn't going to help. Portraying someone as a fucked-up woman batterer and telling them that's who they are isn't really helping anyone.
― mh, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
but has there been any indication that he has a history of being violent to women
the jury of his peers that convicted him is a starter
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
dude beat a woman. he is a woman-beater.
I have never beat a woman, and I have "fucked up or screwed up" a lot of things
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
also as some dude pointed out, his complete failure to comport himself with any sort of dignity, let alone express remotely adequate contrition, since the incident doesn't exactly help his cause
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
mean, no one gets a freebie when it comes to battering the hell out of someone, but painting a scarlet letter on the guy and acting like there's no redemption for anyone who fucks up or room for anyone who's screwed up but has tried to make amends isn't going to help.
i think tons of people (incl ppl posting itt) were willing and in some cases (probably mine, since i liked him a lot as an artist) eager to NOT paint him with a scarlet letter for doing what he did, but all of his actions from the incident on have been completely petulant, and as ship said, pretty much annoyed at the fact that he had to address the situation publicly and that some people (radio programmers, journalists, fans) were now looking at him in a different light because of what he did
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
my understanding is that he grew up with a violent father and that this was the first recorded instance of him hitting anyone, let alone hitting a woman
I agree that he can and should be able to get past this; part of doing that is, for example, not being pissy about people being wary of his records in the immediate aftermath and not turning tributes to Michael Jackson into pontification platforms about himself
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
And you know, I'm all for redemption and all, but dude fucked up royally and barely had any repercussions so far.
Like he basically beat up a woman and got MORE famous: a Vibe cover story, top billing on TV Award Shows, spending the weekend jet-skiing with Diddy. No one in the industry even took a stand against him but Jay-Z.
Dude hasn't suffered, afaik. Give dude a 10-year radio blackout and then maybe I'll listen to his dipshit crocodile tears.
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
No one in the industry even took a stand against him but Jay-Z
really? I didn't hear about this - good on ya Jay
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
you're kind of right, but 'graffiti' is a flop in the context of his career
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah shakey, last year at the BET awards there was a michael jackson tribute, but jay-z threatened to not perform at the awards if chris brown was included in the tribute
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
or so it was said
I agree, I think it is his attitude towards the incident which has put people off as much as the incident itself -- he expected saying sorry to make everything okay, and has acted angry and butthurt ever since when his album didn't do as well as he expected it to. No one is owed record sales.
― ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
xpost A commercial flop, yes, but artists don't make any money on record sales anyway anymore
Also Jay-Z apparently said, “Chris is a walking dead man.”
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
his career will likely be nonexistent w/ in 3-5 years, pre-beating was on track to have an usher-like career
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
his career will likely be nonexistent w/ in 3-5 years
this is true of most r&b/pop stars tbf
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
right, but it's only true for CB because of the beating
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
i don't think Chris was ever really gonna be at Usher level, at least not longevity-wise
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
i mean he had a streak of very successful singles, but he was never going to have the highest selling album of the year like Confessions and totally be king of the hill.
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Even though I hated half his songs it's pretty much undeniable that dude was being groomed for supermegastardom; he'd had a successful introduction into the world of black cinema and sold a shit-ton of records and was dating the woman everyone wanted to bone. Basically about the only thing he could have done to fuck everything up was... beat the shit out of her and then wonder why wearing a gaudy necklace that said "OOPS!" in cartoon font pissed people off. Which he did.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
xp yeah maybe not, but it's wrong to say that his career hasn't suffered at all
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
can we talk about Usher's deal with Satan, btw? like why the hell does everyone love "OMG" THAT much?
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
people like "OMG" THAT much cuz it's indistinguishable from BEP
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
and it's better than any of those singles except for "boom boom pow"
okay crazypants, it is NOT better than any of the BEP singles; it's about on par with the interminable filler on the second half of the album (I don't even remember any of those songs aside from "Ring-A-Ling")
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like it better than "i'mma be", "meet me halfway" (sublime chorus tho) & "rock your body"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
and "i gotta feeling" but i was never along w/ the consensus on that one so i'll let it ride
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hold up -- aren't all you guys assuming that Chris Brown himself chose "Man in the Mirror" for the tribute? I'd assume the decision would be more than likely made by a Sony/Jive head honcho, or some BET executive/publicist/team, looking to turn this into an "OMG" zeitgeist talking point moment. I'm not sure that Chris would've had a say in what he performed; dude was more than likely handed a script and told to learn the choreography and roll with it.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I dunno I'm assuming he at least had some input...? who knows
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
He could have said "me singing 'Smooth Criminal' and 'Man in the Mirror' back to back might not be a good idea" at some point and backed out of the whole thing.
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm not sure that Chris would've had a say in what he performed; dude was more than likely handed a script and told to learn the choreography and roll with it.
doubtful, you don't just tell someone "btw learn all the moves to three iconic michael jackson routines of our choosing".
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah pulling the "he's a pop star, he's probably just following orders" thing is pointless. regardless of whose idea it was to perform "Man In The Mirror," he was aware of the subtext of it all well before he stepped onstage and shed a tear.
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
well tbf I think a large reason why this is still a big problem is because he is completely blind to the subtext of it all
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
how is that even possible...?
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
shakey, may we remind you
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
O
M
G
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 28 June 2010 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
― blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
wat
― ᵧₒᵤᶫᵒSᵉ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
footage from 1999 that was first widely circulated as a gif in like 2005 -- seriously guys READ YOUR BLOGS
― StanMDH (some dude), Sunday, 11 July 2010 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
ive known abt that for ages -- it was just sorta lol to me ppl giving jay-z dap for his positive attitudes towards women. i mean, u know, im glad he did what he did in that particular circumstance but excuse me for being cynical about dude knowing who currently butters his bread
― blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, 11 July 2010 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah and it circulated on youtube on the same HOW DARE HE HATE ON CHRIS BROWN LOOK AT THIS WOMAN HE CLEARLY GAVE A COMPLETELY SIMILAR BEATING TO tip over a year ago
― some dude, Monday, 12 July 2010 00:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
I dun think the fact that he's playing a thug in an upcoming movie is gonna do him favors, regardless of the fact that he was shooting it before the rihanna incident.
― spidermark, Monday, 12 July 2010 03:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
― some dude, Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
and yet somehow this 'common knowledge' that isnt at all what i was suggesting slipped by me!! how could i have missed related youtubes
― blap...tremendo (deej), Monday, 12 July 2010 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
man fuck chris brown and his whole campaign for reacceptance
― BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Monday, 19 July 2010 08:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
so I know everyone hates him now and stuff but "Deuces" is kind of a huge hit, so we should probably talk about it?
I think it's great song honestly, could actually be my favorite single of his ever. Would be even better without Tyga & Kevin McCall... and I like "No Bullshit" from that mixtape as well. Sticking to the core R&B format is really the only way he'll make a "comeback," Grafitti was garbage (besides "Sing Like Me,"), "Deuces" is exactly what he should be doing(though I guess in the context of him and Rihanna's relationship, the song is kind of gross and those that view everything he does through that lens will continue to view him as an asshole but that's neither here nor there).
― / (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
again I was never a big fan of his but his R&B joints like this, "sing like me," "take you down," were always his strong suit to me.
― / (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
hate to just repost what i tweeted but:
can't deal with Chris Brown having an uptempo breakup song - "guess me beating your face in was a dealbreaker, lol time to chuck the deuce!"
― some dude, Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I figure that's the reaction a lot of you guys will have to it, which is understandable I guess
― / (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
beat is pretty hot
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 29 August 2010 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
how long ago did chris drop "deuces"
― hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
hey there
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 00:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
i mean was "deuces" a hard launch for brown or did it just leak?
― hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 August 2010 00:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
classic comedic posts
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 00:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol whiney
― max skim (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 August 2010 01:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
said it on ILE already, but the best part of Takers is when Chris Brown gets plugged
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 30 August 2010 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
kind of meh on this except for the SAY... BAH BAH... SAY... BAH BAH part
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 August 2010 04:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
#1 on r&b now
― / (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 4 September 2010 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
how did no one mention THAT THE ONE DUDE IN THIS SONG MAKES A MENTION TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT BETWEEN TWO MEGA-FAMOUS BLACK POP STARS THAT HAPPENED IN A VEHICLE
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 September 2010 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
i seriously almost drove off the road
say bah bah
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
why come Jay-Z hasn't whooped his ass yet
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thx for the Takers spoiler.
― commonly referred to as Olde E ,Olde Executioner, Dat Ol' 8hundo and 8-Ba (Eazy), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol believe me knowing that little trinket won't do anythin to spoil the movie, the movie itself will probably do more to do that. I liked it but there's some dumb stuff in it.
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'll be going in with low expectations, but L.A. crime thrillers are like McNuggets to me.
― commonly referred to as Olde E ,Olde Executioner, Dat Ol' 8hundo and 8-Ba (Eazy), Monday, 6 September 2010 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Monday, September 6, 2010 2:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha holy shit, never noticed that because i usually change the station and/or black out in a rage when Tyga says "valentimes"
― some dude, Monday, 6 September 2010 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
hahah
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 September 2010 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
o yah the tyga part is a click out for sureyoung money poisoning the track for potential listening: CYANIDE
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 September 2010 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
i might be angrier about Tyga having a career in 2010 than i am about Chris Brown having a career in 2010
― some dude, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
i want to go back in time to 2008 and warn a younger, overly confident me that i shouldn't be so sure we've seen the last of the guy from Gym Class Heroes and his little cousin
― some dude, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
ha
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
don't forget to invest heavy in apple, short BP and kill glenn beck while you're at it
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
might wanna drop a call to CB as well and have him get some anger management
― Gulab jamun (Gulab Jamun) into the syrup please. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
i don't think i ever payed much attention to the production on "forever" until it came on just now, and damn, i know i hated on it when it came out, i mean the tune is still kinda dippy and it's certainly not if cb has lost any of his offputting d-baggy quality since this dropped, but damn, this song is kind of brilliant?
― rock n roll individual (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's amazing
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think my main problem with it is it sounds just a bit too prom-ready. it has the same kind of ersatz score-the-moment quality that "i gotta feeling" and "empire state of mind" have. all of those songs are simultaneously brilliant and terrible.
― rock n roll individual (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I came around to "Forever" after like a year too, still things I dislike about it but it definitely is one of the really good beats Polow's done since his output started to decline
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
"Forever" is decent enough; I don't hate it but I don't love it (partially because Ne-Yo's "Closer" is much more my platonic ideal when it comes to R&B house)
― STOP DREAMING ABOUT HORSES, THIS IS REAL LIFE (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
oh for certain
― rock n roll individual (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
They should've given his character some chance to show off his parkour skills before he pulls them out of nowhere.
― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2010 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
I mean, they have that fancy little club; all they needed to do was have Chris Brown go from the VIP floor to the ground floor by, like, sliding down the banister and doing a little flip.
― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2010 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
am i the only one kinda weirded out by how the thing that's been on the radio in the past year that "deuces" sounds most like is "rude boy"?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 04:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
well this is quite the co-sign huh
― waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
drake + t.i. + kanye + fab + 3000
― waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
this beat is really awesome
hahaha wtf is this kanye verse
lol every verse on this is pretty much a trainwreck
cheers
― waka flocka flame judi dench (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
indeed.
(with the possible exception of tip's verse, which is nothing special but at least not outright embarrassing like some of the others)
― swvl, Friday, 1 October 2010 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
big ups to jay-z for actually trying to end this dude's career instead of resucitate it
― mod future admin gang ban them all (The Reverend), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
this song is fucking horrible why does anyone listen to this guy
― crude interloper of a once august profession (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
some people just wanna support a brother who smacks women
― THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR (HI DERE), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
can't believe this thread has less replies than Pitchfork Reviews Reviews
― some o))) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
you are surprised that ILM would rather spend more time talking about an annoying, ignorable white dude than any black dude?
― THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR (HI DERE), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
like seriously, how long have you been posting here?
high-five for that post
― some o))) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/
ship i love you for this
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
and ha your scores in general have been brutal lately, hope everything is ok
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
yes, i love you for the entire singles jukebox website, ugh - http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2799
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 October 2010 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol my scoring average has been pretty low as of late but my curmudgeonly criticism never seems to have anything to do with anything else going on w/ me -- plus i write about 5 singles i love every month but only 1 or 2 out of those 5 tend to get covered on Jukebox too
― algernod shiplies (some dude), Sunday, 3 October 2010 03:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
FUCK THIS DUDE.
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, 8 November 2010 07:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
FUCK THIS DUDE
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, 8 November 2010 08:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
what did he do now?
― s&m: sex and masturbating (The Brainwasher), Monday, 8 November 2010 08:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
yea why u mad
― J0rdan S., Monday, 8 November 2010 08:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
just tired of fucking hearing him. mad he still has a career.
― kkkvagz (The Reverend), Monday, 8 November 2010 09:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
FUCK CHRIS BROWN.
― princess tamtam swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
his presence in the rej3ctz video is mad annoying
― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^yes
also the comments in this article are kind of lol mostly sad http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2010/12/was_2010_the_be_7.php
(rich is otm of course)
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
zania 1 hour agoPlease seek the lord. I feel bad for the person who wrote this article. So much hate its a sin. Seems like you are angry that a young black man was able to correct his mistakes and come back and do good. Chris has God in his life and you need to seek the lord.
Jasmine 1 hour agothis is worst article i ever read....you can sit and beat on yourself all you want Chris Brown is back and he is here to stay...stay madNext time before you write a post about Chris do your research for example you forgot he is nominated for 3 grammys.....
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
chris brown fans really love to tout his grammy nominations
"You know what shocked the shit out of me? The Chris Brown renaissance that occurred this year."
Not to get all Kreskin, but "shocked the shit". Wow.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
it actually did look for a while there that he was really not going to recover commercially from the whole incident
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
he probably hasn't all told, but still
yeah I literally LOL'd at "please seek the lord."
― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
A friend of mine got death threats from Chris Brown fans once for a piece she wrote
― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
DIDN'T YOU KNOW HE WAS NOMINATED FOR GRAMMY'S
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol when was this
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
when, as rich notes in his article, chris brown took to the internet to beg his fans to pay attention to him
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
& anyway the singles of 'graffiti' were by far the least successful of his career, then the "deuces" thing happened & now...
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
file this one under the "songs u know are bad but you kinda like anyway" thread
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
xp yeah, i remember a LOT of industry people being like "he's toast, disposable guy anyway really"couldn't pull for his live show for awhile but i hear that's really changedi credit BET with being the organization that did the most to rehab chris brown; they push him on 106 and Park nonstop and they kept having him on awards shows and talk shows to tell HIS SIDE OF THE STORY
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
deuces feels like it was the turning point tho, yah
um wasn't said incident THIS YEAR? the year the same article posits as being Chris Brown's big comeback year? wtf
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
first half of this year: not comeback year yetDeuces released in june
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
so it looked like his career was over this year - except it isn't. also are those interviews before or after the whole BET MJ tribute thing...?
this guy's career was never over. he released a shitty album that no one bought/liked, but that's hardly unusual (as evidenced by ALL THE OTHER albums that tanked that are referenced in the article)
xp
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Xxjess Alfordxx 4 hours agoYour horrible! Chris has worked so hard and al's people can do is hate? And who are you to write a massive article full of negativity towards him? The past Comments have been completely agreeable.And you are a horrible person for writing such a negative article! Chris turned to God for help and this is Lord's work. You should be prasing him
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
Rav Chopra 3 hours agoLMFAO, I beg you shit in your hands and jump off a building.Chris Brown fans will never let him down, we're going to support him wether people like it or not. Haters, ima throw my dueces up to you I swear down. Hate is a disease, Get well soon mother fucker (:People just want to move on from that incident, having you post things like this ain't gonna make no shit better. It's like why you people alive anyway when all you can do is just hate?Mayn Chris Brown is better than you will ever be, He can sing better than you ever can, He can rap better then you ever can and he's a much better person now. ONE MiSTAKE! JUST ONE GOD DAMMNED MiSTAKE. Mayn I bet you've made thousands of those.On the other hand, you can't make people hate Chris Brown no more. He's back wether you like it or not you can't do no shit bout that. Breezy fans ain't ever gon' stop supporting.#TEAMBREEZY ALL DAY EVERYDAY
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
the corollary of "you need to be fucking mental to still be a fan of chris brown" being "chris brown fans are fucking mental"
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
SARAH 2 hours agoTo the ASSWHOLE that wrote this article you forgot the mention:
Chris also currently has a hit song YEAH 3X sitting at #22 and climbing on BillBoard Top 100 with no promo.Plus serveral hit collaborations that you failed to mention in your stupid ass article.-Jae Millz (Young Money) featuring Chris Brown - Green Goblin
-Bow Wow (Young Money) featuring Chris Brown - Aint Thinking Bout You
-British rapper Chipmunk featuring Chris Brown - Champion
-Diddy Dirty Money featuring Chris Brown - Yesterday
-Jawan Harris featuring Chris Brown - Another Planet
** Chris is also collaborating in the studio with Justin Bieber**
You mad. Stay mad BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello 1 hour agoWtf is wrong with you??? Chris has been doing GOOD this year. He is Grammy nominated, and it has NOTHING to do with pity. This article was so hateful and nasty that I couldn't even get through it. You are a horrible writer. If you don't like somebody then shut the fuck up and don't waste your time hating on them. Chris is a talented artist and you're just a hateful asshole. Rihanna has moved on and Chris is trying to do the same without stupid fucks like you writing shit like this. You obviously need a damned life!!!
Oh and by the way, Chris is taking responsibility for his actions. Judge Schnegg praised him on how well he's been doing at making up for his mistake, and that he's taken full responsibility. Do your research asshole. Get a life.
And another thing:If you don't like Chris so much than why the hell did you listen to Graffiti? So you could hate? But that's okay, you contributed to his record sales. Dumbass...
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
knowing the name of chris brown's judge is some intense stannery, jesus
one of these days someone is gonna have to write a piece about "hating" in rap/r&b circles
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i've been kind of increasingly obsessed with the subject over the last year or two so it might be me
― hey young ppl world (some dude), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
"LMFAO, I beg you shit in your hands and jump off a building."
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
hey remember when you could hate a guy's style or lack of talent or general vapidity or wrongheaded obsessions or character flaws or sins and not be met with "why you hating"?why am i hating? i am hating because i hate you and what you represent. the suggestion that i am envious and am venting by spouting sour grape on you is fucking crazyi just hate you and your actions and what you do
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2010 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
hey guys, why are you hating on the idea of "hating"? are just haters or
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 02:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
*hates*
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 17, 2010 4:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― hey young ppl world (some dude), Friday, December 17, 2010 4:20 PM (6 hours ago)
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 December 2010 03:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol aw kells
― hey young ppl world (some dude), Saturday, 18 December 2010 03:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
naw, for real i would like to read that because that whole line of defense is stupid and frustrating and needs to be deconstructed
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 04:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
dude no, lol
i mean i don't want to get too in-my-world-of-young-ppl here but the "hating" thing is not a measured "line of defense" meant for serious discussions and obv not specific to r&b/rap circles - it's just a "thing young ppl say" irl. if at some point respected critics start to employ "hating" as a serious debate tactic then that's one thing; i'm not so sure the world needs a takedown of a colloquialism used by anonymous internet r&b fans at this point.
i respect matos as a writer of course but he tried this sort of thing about a year ago i think and after reading that my reaction was like "lol, have you ever talked to anyone under 30?"
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 December 2010 05:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
this shit is so bizarre
Steezdoll_nena 8 hours agoand Chris does not seek pity, the only person that does that is Rihanna that has to mention the incident whenever she tries to see an album or concert tickets. Chris is doing GREAT with NO PROMO. Deuces is off a mixtape and was number 1 on urban charts for 10 weeks and still gets tons of airplay. Rihanna pretty much had to cancel her US tour because no one wants to see her shitty ass performances, while you put Chris in a lineup and the concert sells out in a week or 2. he has 3 grammy nominations for his own songs while the only way Rihanna is will ever be nominated is on someone else's song. whoever wrote this shit is a truly bitter person, get a life, go to church, it is a sin to not forgive, and its worse that you can't forgive someone you don't even know. like seriously how can you harbor so much hate towards someone you don't even know who is correcting his life & doing a damn good job at it? please go seek help, you need Jesus
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 December 2010 06:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
are his only fans jesus freaks?
his stans in this comments section reeeeeally love to use the word "bashing"
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 December 2010 06:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
breezybaby 7 hours agowho ever wrote this article is just a sad pathetic person!People like you are named haters!half the things said in this article didnt even make sence! if chris's song deuces was tuneless why was it nuber one for 10weeks?????this is one stupid article... the person who wrote it must be retarded..at the end of the day.. chris is multi-talented and your nothing! get a life you sad piece of sh*T..get back up is the perfect song for you.. listen to the lyrics and get some sence.. everyone deserves to be forgiven! where all human!..chris is featured in alot of peoples albums coz not only chris's fans know he is talented so do other artists..if you dont like chris brown.. why take the time out to listen to his tracks?.. someone has got a bit of an obsession to write a whole article on him and listen to his music.. get a job! do something constructive.. FREAK!!..chris's career aint going anywhere so keep your stupid menaingless opinions to yourself.. haha
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 December 2010 06:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
Carol Booker 1 hour agou obviously just want some attention for this sad blog, and what better way to get it than to beat a dead horse (i'm sure you'll find a joke in there somewhere, so cliche.) end of the day, nothing you are saying will change a thing. Chris will continue to be a great entertainer and his career will grow, because of his fans.
the whole christian redemption angle being exposed itt is the first thing that's made me understand how the hell cb has pulled this shit off
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 08:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
god damn i hate the black church
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 08:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^perceptive. oh god, christianity.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 December 2010 09:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
and the worst thing is he hasn't even had to make this an explicit part of his narrative. there's this whole major portion of his target audience that is culturally predisposed to accept this bullshit, even if the appeal isn't put into plain speach.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 09:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
this totally jibes with the fact that the ppl i know who have been most eager to reaccept chris brown from his rightful pariah status have all been deep into the black church.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 December 2010 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:55 AM (8 hours ago)
― k3vin k., Saturday, 18 December 2010 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
the idea of redemption isn't one I like to discount but Chris Brown hasn't really done a lot to appear apologetic for his actions. You shouldn't just get forgiveness by proxy, but well there's that dreaded New Testament that so many read....
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Saturday, 18 December 2010 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
if he were apologetic you would think that he would maybe think twice about releasing "deuces" with the lyrics it had. i liked it before i actually listened to the lyrics. the ike & tina line left my jaw hanging. sad thing is that i've seen ppl on the interwebs defend him/the song by saying "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WERE YOU THERE?" smh @ crazy stans, you'd think he was some american idol runner up or something
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
I used to sit at a cubicle between two women (one a friend, one an annoying gossip spreader twat) who chatted endlessly on celebrities and stuff, and the annoying woman claimed that Rihanna hit Chris first and Chris hit back in 'self-defense'. was so disgusted.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
wish i could find the video for this, it was kind of amazinghttp://thechrisbrownblog.com/tag/chris-brown-wins-fandemonium-award/
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown...won BET's Fandemonium Award. He said that he "couldn't never do none of this without my fans" and made sure to shout out "Team Breezy," the internet warriors who have stuck by him through his public scrutiny. He also said, "I let y'all down before but I won't do it again, I promise you."it was even more awkward than this makes it sound
― I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 December 2010 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
this whole attitude (not cepeda's obv) makes me so angry:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-04-01/music/another-love-tko-teens-grapple-with-rihanna-vs-chris-brown/
― The Reverend, Sunday, 19 December 2010 00:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
chris had a big day on twitter today
this should about sum it up
chrisbrownI'm not homophobic! He's just disrespectful!!!3 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
― a snooki and a killer (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
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― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
@razb2k when I need tips on how to demolish my career I'll call ya!!!!!
@chrisbrown I luv how u resort 2 disrespectful low brow tactics when u clearly sabotaged ur own career by beating women!
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
when I need tips on how to demolish my girlfriend I'll call ya!!!!!
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol @ "you're gay" being chris brown's comeback for "you beat a girl"
bunch of geniuses these guys
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
i want to pay the director of Takers for any leftover alternate footage of Chris Brown getting blown away and create an entire movie using just those clips...
― yelawolfenstein (San Te), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
even CB's new singles that are all over the radio have these weird little outbursts of defensive aggression...like he's singing a slow jam about sex and starts going "don't be on that bullshit, girl" or he's singing about partying and kinda outta nowhere shouts "tell him shut the fuck up!"
― hann am0n tana (some dude), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
after the incident, I had to wonder if he had been leaving subtle clues all along in "Take You Down"......
― yelawolfenstein (San Te), Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
# BTW... i love all my gay fans and this immature act is not targeted at you!!!! love about 6 hours ago via web
# RAZBFACT: he can braid a niggaz hair with his toes!!!!! C'mon son about 6 hours ago via web
# @razb2k you have a lower back tattoo that says "different strokes" about 6 hours ago via web
# @razb2k merry christmas.i just gave you 20 thousand more followers.. u shouldve did this first instead of telling the world you got raped. about 7 hours ago via web
# YOUR NAME IS @RICKYROMANCE HOW GANGSTA IS THAT!!!!.... PEANUT HEAD ASS !!!! about 7 hours ago via web
# This argument lasted longer than your career @razb2k about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k when you fart it whistle #walnutbandit about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k ur a x backup singer!!!!! What do u make? Like $1.99 an hour about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k it's funny how I'm nominated for 3 grAmmys off of a mixtape and ur scrambling for change!! about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k when I need tips on how to demolish my career I'll call ya!!!!! about 8 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# I ain't deleting my tweet either!! I was minding my damn business and Peter pan decides to pop off!!! # whatalame about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# Tell me this @razb2k!! Why when the money was coming in u won't complaining about getting butplugged! #homothug!!! about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
# @razb2k nigga you want attention! Grow up nigga!!! Dick in da booty ass lil boy about 9 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone
<-brown's twitter pic background
― it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
gentleman is CLASSY
― it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
and here i was thinking i was the one who just wouldnt shut up
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 05:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
forks: it was a pic of mj when this was going down. he just changed it
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 December 2010 07:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
going crazy on twitter... does this mean Chris Brown is gonna release the MBDTF of 2011!!!!!
― dayo, Thursday, 30 December 2010 07:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
probably
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 December 2010 07:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
my beautiful dark fisted tragedy
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 08:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
i probably shouldn't ask what "walnut bandit" means, huh
― it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
this dude is pretty much determined to shit on anyone that hoped he might have been redeemable huh? :-/
― plax (ico), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
he just punches people, doesn't actually shit on them afaik
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
OMG that picture
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
From TMZ:
"As we previously reported, Brown had recently posted a photo of his diploma from his court-ordered anger management program."
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown now has 3 singles out that I tend to leave on and enjoy when they come on the radio ("Yeah 3X," "No Bullshit" and "Look At Me Now"). this is really difficult for me to accept.
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
oh god and "Look At Me Now" was produced by Diplo too? ugh
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
"yeah 3x" is pretty good -- "no bullshit" & "look at me now" have pretty good production
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
"no bullshit" is one of the best singles of the year so far \(o_O)/
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah "No Bullshit" is aight entirely because of the production -- it's really annoying and awkward to hear so many bleeped words on a radio slow jam
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah that's true
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
so glad this guy's career is over. *whew*
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
― some dude, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:51 PM Bookmark
Cooties, I tell you.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
I like this song (produced by Benny Benassi lol):
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
i wonder if i have any sort of duty to actively seek out these four apparently-good songs or whether i can just carry on trying to pretend this dude's career is over
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
i don't think you're really missing anything must-hear, i'm just saying that since those songs are all on the radio here I've had to come to grips with enjoying them as pieces of music
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
guys quick jacking the Chris Brown thread to talk about the musician, this thread is for discussion about the Canadian singer-songwriter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown_(Canadian_singer)
― pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
i checked the first 30 secs of "beautiful people" to check he hadn't stolen the nina sky track of the same name. he hadn't, though theirs is a way superior 4x4 trancey track. OBV.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
That's prob my least favorite song on their ep tbh.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
"yeah 3x" is the laziest title for a song in recent memory right?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
i mean i know he couldn't name it "yeah", but seriously
even "yeah (yeah yeah)" or something would've been better
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
no "Yeah 3X" is totally a better title than any of the alternatives
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
music video for "Look at Me Now"
Chris Brown, Doc Brown, and Lil Wayne go back in time a few years to prevent "some unfortunate things" from ever happening is what I'm guessing the video's plot is.
― Cunga, Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
those guys are almost too excited
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown rapping sounds uncannily like Jermaine Dupri
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
i really kinda can't stand him on that song
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
as great as it is
like, one of my absolute least favorite devices that rappers picked up on in the past few years (mostly wayne) is the whole "oops, i didn't mean to say that thing i just said in my planned out rap verse!" & he has that whole like two bar riff on oops my dick & it's just... no
busta & wayne save it tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
the "oops" thing is totally Wayne's fault
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
i hope he realizes he's to blame for that terrible trend and has something more to say than "oops"
i like the wayne verse on that song a lot -- the "i don't eat sushi" line & "my dad's gay" punchline are kind of a throwback to a few years ago when wayne was legitimately silly in a charming & funny way & not in an overwrought and eye-rolling way
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
also if wayne wanted some double time nonsense on the third verse of "six foot seven foot" he could've at least called up busta
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Earliest I can think of is Bun B, c. 1999
Big southern rap impresarioComing straight up out the black barrioMakes a mil up off a sorry hoNow sit back and peep my scenarioOops, my bad, that's my scenarioNo, I can't fuck a scary hoNow every time, every place, everywhere we goHos start pointing, they say there he go.etc.
But Wayne's use is certainly more frequent and lazy.
― Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah lots of earlier uses of "oops" in rap (my favorite being "Bitties In The BK Lounge") but i mean as an oft-used technique Wayne's to blame
― tellysavalas (some dude), Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
yep i really like "look at me now" although the first time i heard it i couldn't even remember that chris brown was on it, he is waaay overshadowed by the others
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 17 February 2011 06:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
i said "on my dick"
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 17 February 2011 08:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
ha, also ;_;
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 08:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
oh good
― You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Michaelthats so funny. Your name is Pedro and you call Chris a creep? FYI he has over 7 singles and over 4 are in radio circulation now. I'm glad he admits his part in the situation even if she won't. Even though he was a teenager @ the time he showed great bravery in his actions after the incident. Eat it!
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
why does he brag about some chick waxing her pubic hair off
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
sounds like the 52-week domestic violence program worked then
― The north-east's Number 2 children's party magician (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 March 2011 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
What a piece of shit
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown and his passionate defenders can hop in a space shuttle and fly into the sun
― hold my breathless i wish go dead (San Te), Monday, 14 March 2011 01:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rapper_chris_brown_freaks_out_after_r6BDLMvzaid4O8ZYNvqkEI#ixzz1HL7VbfTA
so then
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
gotta love that two minutes of questioning counts as enough of a perceived assault for him to go completely off
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
"rapper chris brown"
the questions were puffballs that totally could have been responded to with the usual "i regret what happened, but I'm moving forward" too, assuming he didn't then note his album means "Forgive All My Enemies"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
i guess now he's seen how his fans and the industry will stick with him beyond either rational belief or morals, he feels he can just pull any shit and he'll be fine
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
Step 1: When asked about Rihanna, just note you're trying to move forward, sound apologetic rather than offendedStep 2: Stick with "Fans Are My Everything," don't bring up the hatersStep 3: Do not shriek, break a window, stare down a producer and rip off your shirt before leaving the studio
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
my favorite is "all I've been through" i.e. the things I had to go through after I beat up a woman - I'm sure it was a headache, all he's "been through," but there was an easy way to avoid all those trials and tribulations i.e. don't beat up women
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
His anger management classes or whatever don't appear to have been very successful.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha what a stupid tattoo
how come he hasn't collaborated with Drake yet, maybe the self-involved vortex of smug would crush them both
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
my favorite is "all I've been through" i.e. the things I had to go through after I beat up a woman
this was also amazing
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Michael Richards: "my new comedy piece is about all the stuff I went through, you know, just the trials I went through after my racism went supernova onstage"
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
I understand that Chris Brown is a dude with some problems, but I think that instead of babying the shit out of him and buying all of his music because of his vacant dough-boy stare and his ability to imitate Michael Jackson's dancing, maybe someone should take him out of the spotlight and try helping him.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
"My new album means Kids, Realize All Men Entertain Racism"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
lmao
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
maybe someone should take him out
could've ended sentence there imho
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol Shakey
you are reliable as the sun and I appreciate you for it
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
comparing drake to chris brown is very unfair to drake on many levels
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
dying @ shakey btw
i would love to have been around chris brown's management today
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
hold up, does Shakey not like Chris Brown b/c he abused a woman? on the other thread i thought Shakey's been all "no personal doings and thoughts can come between an artist and his art!!!!!!!!!"
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
keep that bullshit in your stupid thread
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
is it weird/wrong that i see an incident like this one w/ chris brown & read it as a very intense expression of deep, deep shame?
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
ilxor do you really think that is a contradiction
― just sayin, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
idk about weird but i'm not getting any vibe of shame at all xp
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
#armchairpsychology idk i feel like someone who really didn't feel shamed would be able to just go thru the motions of "i'm past that point" without flipping out and throwing a chair thru a window
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
i mean it's not like he gets hounded by rihanna questions, from what i can tell
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
"guilt" may well be a factor, but considering how many examples of a stunning persecution complex he's offered, it makes a little more sense to associate this with that.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
I would never argue otherwise!
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
whoa wait, you are trying to keep bullshit OUT of a CHRIS BROWN thread? loooool
not necessarily-- but i'd like to hear shakey's take on it
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't like Chris Brown because he sucks. I make jokes about him because I have a sense of humor. that is all.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
now we're talkin
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
mostly my interest in this thread was originally piqued by various people predicting that his Rihanna-beating would be a career ender, which I emphatically disagreed with (and have been proven right about, I might add). I don't really give a shit about Chris Brown's actual work. I think the only thing of his I've sat through for any length of time was that BET performance, my "review" of which is upthread.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
this many posts and nobody made a "ws window" comment?
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
for the record, i kinda have given up on this guy after deuceshe's off my team on madden
Who hasn't ripped their shirt off and run out into the street tho
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
if CB had attacked robin roberts would that have ended his career?
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
it would have begun my permanent o_O face
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
If Chris Brown just starts shouting "tiger blood" and "winning," can we all just laugh this off as some hilarious joke?
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
Just?
didn't think i'd see someone come in here and parrot chris brown's actual argument
― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
wait, what was his actual argument
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
that we put up with charlie sheen's "things" but why not chris brown's
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
uh Charlie Sheen actually SHOT his wife fwiw
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
also I'm not sure how much Charlie Sheen is being "tolerated" considering he lost his job, custody of his children, and most people are just laughing at him, not approving of him
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown, it must be said, is a stupid motherfucker.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
I was actually trying to make the opposite of Chris Brown's argument. They're both assholes and should both be shunned.
xxp Yeah and he's crying all the way to the bank after selling millions of dollars in tickets for his live shows. At, with, it's all the same when the checks get cashed.
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
market sez: Charlie Sheen, more entertaining performer than Chris Brown
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
xp: in fairness, those millions of dollars will go straight into drugs and prostitutes so it's not like Sheen himself is setting himself up for an extended future or anything
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah and he's crying all the way to the bank after selling millions of dollars in tickets for his live shows
wait maybe I misunderstood - was this in reference to Brown or Sheen (is Sheen doing "live shows"? this is news to me)
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
Sheen is, and they sold out so quickly he added more.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
Here you go, Shakey: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-16/entertainment/charlie.sheen_1_charlie-sheen-half-men-warlock?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ
― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
chris should have just accused Robin of being glib
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
time for the old william tell routine
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://twitter.com/#!/CHRISBROWNHULK
― Andy K, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
ME NEXT ALBUM CALLED F.A.M.E. FIGHTING AND MAIMING ENEMIES #TEAMBREEZY #FAMENUMBER1about 23 hours ago via web
A+ would lol again
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
if CB had attacked dee barnes would that have ended his career?
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
yesterday I heard a radio DJ accidentally pronounce the title of his new album as "F.E.M.A." -- seemed appropriate
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
Isn't Chris Brown also crying all the way to the bank?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
well not so much "crying" as "breaking windows and showing off terrible tattoos", but yes
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
his new Sisqo hairdo is hilarious
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
especially since it seems entirely half-assed, like he did it himself in the dark
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
he doesnt look very cool...
― ♞/♘ (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
still confused at how ridiculously supportive BET has been for Brown... there's GOT to be some sort of financial connection there (above and beyond exploiting talent)
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
not really surprising, black radio has been just as forgiving/supportive for presumably the same reasons
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
guys, sometimes it is as simple as "skin color"
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
Still disappointed Jay-Z didn't have him exiled.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
xp i'm kinda lost at the concept that, having "paid penance", Brown thinks he's not obliged to address this issue ever again. it's reminiscent of the "... but you fuck ONE hedgehog" joke
and really? you think as long as he's black he gets the unconditional support of the black community regardless of his destructive and abusive behavior? well then what about umwaittrying to think of a black celebrity whose horrible behavior has lost them the support of the black communityumno, he's still okay tooin prison but okaystill making recordsgoing to court but okayumwell maybe if he were gay? or the president?
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
hypothesis: if chris brown was the gay president THEN he would lose the support of BET
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
the closest you're going to get is OJ and look how long that took
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah, he was my "in prison but okay" actually.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think it's not just race but also genre and music. BET and urban radio are very much driven by a young female audience that treat every moderately talented male R&B singer like the greatest star the world has ever known (and don't listen as much to the more pop-leaning Rihanna).
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
"but also genre and gender," i meant to say.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think people would be far more willing to let him "move on" if he had exhibited any convincing shame or remorse at any point, rather than constantly trying to minimise the severity of what he did and throwing his toys out of the pram whenever he's called on his bs.
the industry's support of him is depressing but the fact that he still has an army of loyal, hysterical teenage girl fans just makes me so uncomfortable. wtf are they thinking?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
xp see i dunno about that because there's a lot of easily disposable figures who are arguably or inarguably more talented than brown but just haven't had the staying power or are as likely to be hotly contested as "indispensible".... dude gets more BET love than say Lloyd or even Ne-Yo really
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
the weird thing about his continued career is that, when he was first disgraced, i thought that would be pretty much it - he's really a very disposable artist, only his dance skills stand out - it'd be so easy to just move on to the next vaguely cute, sexy male w/teen appeal who can sing and dance a bit - i guess that's what happened to trey songz to an extent. but there was nothing irreplaceable about chris brown
ha xp
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
the army of teenage fangirls is, i'm afraid, a sort of weird hormonally unbalanced manifestation of the Twilight effect where actual sex and long term relationships are unthinkable but "he hurts me because he loves me" is much more accessible and personal
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
That's because he can be seen as being persecuted, and the mothering instict kicks in for these 15-25 year olds. xp
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
the fact that he still has an army of loyal, hysterical teenage girl fans just makes me so uncomfortable. wtf are they thinking?
basically i want, like, a really strong adult feminist to sit down with each of these girls and give them some #realtalk
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
and i still love brown's heavily produced goofy club songs when he does them right; there's just been a dearth of them lately.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
aretha franklin's #realtalk, sundays at nine pm EST on OWN
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm not denying that there isn't a significant financial motivator behind promoting him, but there are a whole host of external factors/pressures on "the black community" at large that causes sheltering even the most obviously despicable person, usually coming from the twin impulses of "the rest of the world is beating this person down, someone needs to offer support" and "divided we are easier to conquer" that you really can't ignore.
Although conversely Justin Timberlake exposed a woman on live national television and somehow everyone managed to blame her, so it is certainly more complicated than just "it's race, stupid"; just don't sleep on how large a factor that actually is.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's race then gender then class stupid, except when it's in the opposite order.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I still can't figure out how Janet's the one who takes the sole blame for that one. xp
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:45 AM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
Ne-Yo's fanbase is older and broader (i.e. less breathlessly loyal tweens), Lloyd was never as big a star. CB's first two albums were massive, like the teenybopper equivalent of Usher's Confessions.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
i'm trying to think of a black female celebrity who's been similarly disgraced - do remy ma and lil kim still have the support of the black community in the main? not the best parallels i admit
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
That's because he can be seen as being persecuted, and the mothering instict kicks in for these 15-25 year olds.
^^^this is so OTFM. befuddled that people - particularly pop radio fans - don't get this. the narrative is everything. Chris Brown's beating Rihanna makes him MORE marketable, because it makes him controversial. duh.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's so weird to me that any "blame" or furore came out of that total non-incident
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
you could argue that no one ever actually cared about Remy Ma
I don't know how well Lil Kim's next album would do but I think the only people who out-and-out despise her are uncritical Nicki Minaj stans.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
Chris Brown's beating Rihanna makes him MORE marketable, because it makes him controversial.
i would totally get this if he had a certain image to start with - but he was seen as such a goody-two-shoes type, beating rihanna should have completely ruptured that. and he hasn't really been going for a particularly bad-boy image on record since.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
well usher proved easily disposable for awhile! i know you're looking for an apple for apple comparison, but I dunno if it's that straightforward even. I remember speaking with some big promoters and radio people right around the time this story first broke and they were adamant that the kid was finished, they were boycotting his music, he wasn't going to get bookings yadda yadda.Somebody or several somebodys in the industry had to have stepped up and said that they weren't gonna give up on him; this is not a grass-roots led revival.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
disgraced black female celebrity that comes to mind is lil kim maybe? more because of the surgeries than anything else tho
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
his 2 latest big radio hits were a straight up rap song and a curse-filled sexy slow jam called "No Bullshit"
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
also lil kim was never exactly respectable in the first place - from the surgeries to the jail time, all of her "disgrace" was pretty much in character - no one who ever liked her in the first place could have been put off that much by them
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
why are we even talking about rappers who committed crimes against non-famous people, it's always gonna be total apples/oranges
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:55 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
i hate to sound impressed by Team Breezy or anything, but "Deuces" became a #1 R&B hit off a mixtape with afaict no real major label support. his fans are psychotic and stupid but their movement is pretty grassroots.
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
also you guys have to remember that god really loves chris brown so that probably has something to do w/ his songs being super popular again
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah the beating brought several factors together to guarantee his logevity - 1) the trainwreck/controversy angle, guaranteeing that he would get headlines no matter what he did 2) the "circle the wagons" reflex of the black community, 3) the "persecution complex" of his teengirl fanbase, which eats this "you just don't UNDERSTAND!"-type of shit up with a spoon.
this all seems really blatantly obvious and predictable to me.
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah he basically just transitioned from being the cute member of a boy band to 'the dangerous, troubled one' with the tattoos and weird hair
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
I get the protectionist instict from his young female fans—it's biological—but the way Rihanna got painted as having brought it on herself by some people made my stomach turn.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
totally
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think another angle that contributed to this Chris Brown fiasco is black nationalism. When the Chris Brown/Rihanna fiasco came out, I heard and saw a lot of anti-Caribbean talk coming out of a lot of black American's mouths. Chris Brown is seen as "one of us" meaning he is a good ole southern black boy who is misunderstood and trying to do right. Even though in his music and public appearances that $#%^ hasn't shown any humility at all.
Rihanna is the exotic, Caribbean girl who "has to be unstable because all Caribbean girls are" so black Americans just can not believe she is totally innocent. Since she is "not one of us" she has to be evil and deceiving.
Also side note:
Yeah, I still can't figure out how Janet's the one who takes the sole blame for that one.
If somebody (and I basically mean the USA) thinks the concept of "blame" had to be inserted in that Janet/Justin incident, then it basically shows we are afraid/hate black women's bodies as a whole. It was just a fucking breast.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
dunno if i'd ever even considered that level of xenophobia playing into this ugliness, not sure how much I can take that to heart but i'm in the sovereign country of NYC where the pot melts a bit more than elsewhere so
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
I get the protectionist instict from his young female fans—it's biological—...
How is this biological? My sister stop being a fan when the incident happened. So not all black women are predisposed to defend black men when they do wrong.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
NYC doesn't equal the world
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think you read race into the "biological" comment that wasn't actually there
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'd be fine with breasts of all colors on network tv on a regular basis, but the morality police find it sinful and titillating (pun intended).
What would the story have been like if Justin had just walked up to her backstage or out at a restaurant and ripped her top off? He'd take all the blame (and probably go to jail), but since it was her setpiece at the Super Bowl and had the appearance of being a choreographed stunt, she becomes the villain. (I still don't know what was supposed to happen as opposed to what actually happened, but why the hell was Justin grabbing at her boob anyway?)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ok not all women defend men when they do wrong. Happy now.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
"NYC doesn't equal the world"yah, that was exactly my point
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
The mothering instict I spoke of earlier was clearly a generality. Does not apply in all situations to all women.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
xpost Well I'm just highlighting the fact that NYC is an exception when it comes to black ethnicities co-mingling. In a lot of other areas, prejudice and stereotypes are more prevalent.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
(I still don't know what was supposed to happen as opposed to what actually happened, but why the hell was Justin grabbing at her boob anyway?)
he was supposed to sing "gonna have you naked by the end of this song" and then remove a tear-away section of her custom-made outfit, is what was supposed to happen
― lol kudso (sic), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:30 AM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark
I don't believe there is such thing as a "mothering instinct." I think it's more of a environmental thing if anything. If a woman is around an environment where being a mother is a prime role in society then she would be "mothering." If she is not, she probably wouldn't have that "instinct" for a male.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
lilsoul: yah, that's my point! I'm saying that I don't necessarily buy that argument but i'm conceding that my environment likely plays a role in that perception.
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't believe there is such thing as a "mothering instinct."
Well, that's a bad name for it. There's an innate imperative to nurture in most young women, though...which leads to the "I can make him change" mentality which leads to asshole alpha-males exploiting that for as long as they can until women finally wake up after a certain time (most do, some don't).
I hate speaking in generalities, though, because I KNOW this isn't innate behavior in every woman. But it's a significant enough portion of all women to make it notable.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
xpost Funny enough I heard this argument from the rapradar founder/former XXL writer from New York City.
― Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
tbf, my environment is also a pretty drastically different one from the guy who made rapradar
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
wait forks isn't yn?
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
have been following baseball at all, because all of this pops up there, including on New York teams
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
Next up: Dancing with the Stars.
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
Enjoying @CHRISBROWNHULK on Twitter very much.
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
when i was a junior in hs i worked a summer w/ inner city youth & the black american kids treated the haitian kids really terribly -- kids will be kids etc but i have to imagine that it's a top-down thing
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
I never encountered it until college; it was really eye-opening/disheartening.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
i didn't come to nyc until I was 25 and had been in a pretty much monochrome/hetero/bible belt environment prior, so all that stuff flew over my head no doubt cuz HOLY SHIT THAT GUY IS SMOKING A JOINT IN PUBLIC AND THAT GUY IS KISSING A GUY AND THEY'RE SELLING NUTS IN THE STREETS AND THAT GUY'S DREADS ARE DOWN TO HIS KNEES GOSH THE BUILDINGS SURE AM TALL
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
were you born in pleasantville
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
i imagine forks gazing in wonderment at tall buildings p much every day
― so fly zone (D-40), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
I gaze at tall buildings in wonderment on a daily basis tbh
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
looks like teenage girls still love him: hits daily double are saying that he's going to get his first #1 album this week with sales of 250-275K (the 2nd largest of the year so far). :/
― prolego, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
& that's much higher than rihanna sold first week with loud that only opened with 205K.
― prolego, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 6, 2009 12:49 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark
*ahem*
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
"were you born in pleasantville"http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=2410859&boardid=77&threadid=86142
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
congratulations, you were correct about people embracing an asshole
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
It goes - rise to stardom>>triumph>>fall from grace>>redemption/comeback
the redemption is usually accompanied by a lot more contrition and atonement than this :/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
btw can I just
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
so wish he would get an OOOPS face tattoo
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is good http://www.bet.com/news/celebrities/2011/03/23/the-problem-with-chris-brown.html
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 March 2011 05:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:19 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark
wow didn't know that abt chris's past. i was also annoyed by how there's been no real contrition and can't listen to his new stuff without feeling creeped out. but... i do feel for him too.
― no fear, Thursday, 24 March 2011 06:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
i wonder if he would have got this enraged and peacocky if instead of robin roberts it had been a male interviewer asking him these questions.
― estela, Thursday, 24 March 2011 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
chris brown's head looks like a dirty tennis ball
― dayo, Thursday, 24 March 2011 06:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
jsmooth995 OTM
― Andy K, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
i would pay money to watch someone make chris brown watch that
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
that dude tends to be on point
― I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
"i don't get it. why did he compare me to the guy from 'the hangover'?"
― wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
otm, but kinda sick of fred-style 1000000-edit youtube videos
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
Just a side bit of info from a friend:
"I just want to say that this guy is SHOCKINGLY DUMB — like, can't-speak-in-complete-sentences dumb. When I edited his interviews at MTV I was consistently amazed by his sub-third-grade vocabulary. I mean, he would get verb tenses wrong...he would seriously say things like, "I getted new beats from him" and "I runned to the studio." For real."
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 March 2011 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
His mom's twitter was a real eye opener
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 March 2011 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink