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New (Old) Warehouse Decree: EVERY FRIDAY is CREEDENCE FRIDAY
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
stevie, you wouldn't per chance be in LA this weekend? because i will be.
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 05:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
xpost: why's it matter what he inspired? and anyway didn't he inspire, like, bob seger and john cougar more than he inspired the derailers?
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― Arnar Eggert Thoroddsen (arnart1802), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
They aren't in existance, so how?
I got a 'greatest hits' in a bootsale, was all 'ah lovely' got it home, thought "This is boring".
Is that active enough for yez?
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― NickB (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
and anyone seen the ccr woodstock footage? they're like fuckin' merzbow up there.
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
WRONG. I would be perfectly happy to never hear another note performed by John Fogerty ever, ever again.
I love CCR but I can certainly understand why people wouldn't like them: Fogerty's voice, samey arrangements, tendency to jam aimlessly -- Oh No, It's Dadaismus (dadaismu...), June 2nd, 2006 11:12 AM.
You got it.
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
where can this be seen? (Youtube it...?) its not in the movie.
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
― jergins (jergins), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
But yeah, I agree for the most part. CCR totally rule.
― Keith C (lync0), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
While I don't actively hate either of these, I really have no interest in either one.
― Dr. Rodney's Original Savannah Band (R. J. Greene), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
One song I will allow: The one about Lodi is at least moderately tolerable. That's the highest compliment I can pay, sorry.
― Fryin' Berry and Lon Jennon (Bimble...), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
― gbx (skowly), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
Creedence Clearwater Revival live at Woodstock.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
b) All members of CCR are guaranteed to go to heaven when they die, thanks to their version of Good Golly Miss Molly.
c) Cosmo is seriously ripped in that Woodstock footage!
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
Creedence were about the only late-'60s Bay Area band who didn't jam aimlessly. they barely "jammed" at all! two long songs on Cosmo's Factory /= "a tendency"
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― dave q (listerine), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
That's how I feel about Bowie on a bad day.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
no, they "get" that ccr sucks
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Have You Ever Seen The Rain" and "Who'll Stop The Rain" are great songs tho.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 4 June 2006 00:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ghost dong (Sonny A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ghost dong (Sonny A.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
now you are unbanned. i don't pay enough attention.
― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
an ac/dc song title: "my little erik is liking/the viking in you"
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
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― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 5 June 2006 00:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
I can accept this. It took years for me to buy Chronicles.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 June 2006 00:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
There you go. Knock yerselves out!
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 8 June 2006 07:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
So true.
― caek, Sunday, 7 October 2007 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
otm. i always heard their longer stuff ("grapevine," "ramble tamble," "keep on chooglin'") as a response to the dreary ineptness of groups like the dead: "hi. yeah, just wanted to let you know that we can do everything you can do, plus everything you can't do. sometimes simultaneously."
― Lawrence the Looter, Sunday, 7 October 2007 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
Truly, if you don't thrill to "Born On The Bayou" or the riff to "Up Around The Bend" then you should probably defenestrate your stereo, as you clearly have no appreciation for decent `choons.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 7 October 2007 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
I've stated before that Creedence Clearwater Revival is one of my favorite bands. They have one of the best singles runs of any band in the last 50 years. Every Creedence single was a double A-side. "What's your favorite Creedence song?" you might ask. And I would say "Whichever one is currently playing or is about to play next, depending on the physical proximity I have to one or the other." However, their long songs are nowhere near the might and caliber of late-60s Dead explorations.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 8 October 2007 00:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
<i>They have one of the best singles runs of any band in the last 50 years.</i>
i.e. The entire history of rock and roll
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 8 October 2007 00:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
The thread title is hyperbole, but there's a kernel of truth. There are bands I like way more than Creedence, but they're a universal litmus test. If you actively dislike them (rather than just don't know that much about them beyond Lebowski, which is true of pretty much the entire population of the UK) then we're coming at music and culture from such different directions that we're never going to get along and we better stick to topics we know won't bug us.
― caek, Monday, 8 October 2007 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm from the UK, and I like them a lot. They just never got much popular exposure over here, and yet at the same time weren't sufficiently "underground" to be picked up as a hip reference.
They're generally ignored as one of those worthy, "authentic" groups beloved of a certain type of sentimental US baby-boomer.
What most people over here are missing is that they were actually a great pop band.
― PhilK, Monday, 8 October 2007 12:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yes, there are great swathes of "classic rock" that are pretty much unknown outside the music nerd community in the UK. E.g. I have never met a British Steely Dan or Rush fan who didn't have several hundred other records. I gather these people are pretty common in the US. Even Fleetwood Mac don't seem as universal in the UK.
― caek, Monday, 8 October 2007 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
Creedence Clearwater Revival: C or D?
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
Best Creedence Clearwater Revival (CCR) Single
― Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think "not liking CCR" is a condition listed in the DSM-IV
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
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That's kinda pointless
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
seriously, you guys need to relax with the CCR. it's getting culty up in here.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm from the UK, and I like them a lot. They just never got much popular exposure over here
Not much exposure apart from having a UK No. 1 Single, 3 other UK Top 10 singles, two further UK Top 20 singles and three more UK Top 40 singles... total unknowns really.
rather than just don't know that much about them beyond Lebowski, which is true of pretty much the entire population of the UK
LOL @ Americans not knowing anything about the UK
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 08:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
Eh? I'm from Sheffield.
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 08:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
You should know better then!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 08:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
Um, or meet the people you know who like Creedence, because I don't know any.
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 08:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
You should get out more. Admittedly I don't know too many 50-60 year olds either.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 08:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
It seems like young people like Creedence in the US. They don't in the UK.
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
this thread is making me feel patriotic
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
Do you feel born to wave the flag...oooohh, the red, white and blue?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
(xxpost) Undoubtedly, but they were much bigger in the US. However that is not the same as saying they didn't get "much exposure" in the UK, or that hardly anyone knows who they are. We're not talking Three Dog Night here!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
Most youg folks don't know 'em beyond Bad Moon Rising. They don't get radio play much or get namechecked by UK bands or have features in Mojo and Uncut and that v much. I think the comment about people who know 'em having hundreds of records is true, in my experience.
― Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
Oh who knows what young people like, not me, that's for sure!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
... what I mean is, I don't know what young people like, not that they don't like me, errrrrrrrrrr, if you see what I mean
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think that if you ask a randomly selected 20-40 year old in the UK, they probably won't be able to name any of their songs -- and that's if they've even heard of them. Sure, they were known at the time, but they're just not part of the cultural canon in the same way over here.
Meaningless anecdotal evidence: most of my friends (in their 20s) are several-hundred-CDs types, but I think I'm the only one who actually owns any Creedence (apart from my brother, who got a copy of Chronicles from me for his birthday last year).
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think that if you ask a randomly selected 20-40 year old in the UK, they probably won't be able to name any of their songs -- and that's if they've even heard of them.
True. But true of most late-60s American rock bands.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 10:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Tom D. are you working around to a point or just being argumentative for the sake of it?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
That Creedence Clearwater Revival are hardly an obscure band in the UK? Pretty obvious point I'd say.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
I only knew Fortunate Son (via the Circle Jerks) and Bad Moon Rising until today, when (partly prompted by this thread although I already had it on mp3 anyway) I listened to Willy & the Poor Boys. I can report that I don't actively dislike CCR, but I'm not blown away by them either. I am British though, which may or may not have some bearing on the matter. I really like Effigy.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 13:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like willy & the poor boys a lot, but i go with cosmo's factory or green river as legit "blown away" material
also, thread title otm x 1,000,000
― pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
I didn't realise Run Through The Jungle was CCR! I only know the 8 Eyed Spy & Gun Club versions. I guess I'd better download that one as well then...
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
Green River is the one.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
THEY ARE ALL THE ONE
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam! And in response to what people say upthread about lack of UK airplay etc., Wogan often rocks a bit of 'Lodi' or 'Bad Moon' in the AM! If that ain't mainstream, I dunno what is.
― myopic_void, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
Every album has a song you don't notice much on the first few listenings, but which creeps up behind and sticks an ice pick in your noggin: "Sinister Purpose", "Penthouse Pauper" et al
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
I put Ramble Tamble (and a pre-CCR track of theirs) on my blog earlier this week: http://pentangle.net/blog/archives/156 and http://pentangle.net/blog/archives/153.
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
no mention of Bayou Country?? THAT one is the one that kicked my ass - i never have gotten up from that
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
by the way, in 1969, Bayou Country reached #41 on Billboard's "Black Albums" chart
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
someone just mentioned Penthouse Pauper, that's on Bayou, right? As is Keep on Chooglin'. I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend, holy cow.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
"Not much exposure apart from having a UK No. 1 Single, 3 other UK Top 10 singles, two further UK Top 20 singles and three more UK Top 40 singles... total unknowns really."
Yeah, but you'd never know it, would you?
They never crop up on those "Sounds of The Sixities"/"Rock'n' Roll Years" type nostalgia programmes. It might be because there's no readily available UK TV performances that are easy to dig out of the archives. Unlike, say, The Byrds, where you'll always see that TOTP "Tambourine Man" clip pop up sooner or later.
They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory, as far as I can see.
― PhilK, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
i just wanna pop in to say that i am more proud of this thrad than any other thread i have started on ILM ever.
― ian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
They were overrated, but I don't actively dislike them.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam!
also on this tip - Pagan Baby!! total killer, that one.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend
!!! I have never seen this footage, wasn't aware it was even available
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
"They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory"
Yes, it took a lot of work, but we did it. Skynyrd are next.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks
― omar little, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
hahaha
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
sad but true
Amen.
― JN$OT, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
i'd got to war for CCR
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
CCR haters hate your freedom
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
HEY SHAKEY MOOOOO
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ccr+woodstock
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
ja watched all those last night - thx!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
"christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks"
Of course, it's stuff like this that prompts us UK'ers who like CCR in practice to hate them in principle.
― PhilK, Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thinking about what you said about CCR not being that well known in the UK in spite of their (quite considerable) chart success, maybe that's because they were considered a sort of pop band? Therefore not deemed interesting enough for proggers? More conjecture, in the 70s, didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR? Blotting out CCR in the process?
― Tom D., Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
ohhhhh that's right you Britishers are obsessed with categories of music and such, i forgot. carry on.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
And Americans aren't?!?! LOL
― Tom D., Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ugh.
― caek, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
i said obsessed, not aware of
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
"didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR?"
Quo, at their peak, were far heavier than CCR could dream of being.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
Quo were louder. Louder ain't heavier. And fey faux-"psychedelic" vocals damn sure ain't heavier than Fogerty.
― Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
Quo's thing was brutal, unrelenting riffage. They helped create metal as we know it. Not for what they added, but for all they stripped away.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
oh thank god ilx is back
― ghost rider, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
i missed its brutal, unrelenting idiocy
― ghost rider, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
What's wrong with brutal, unrelenting idiocy? We all love the Ramones, nicht wahr?
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
amen!
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
"heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man"
OTM, and I hpe we can part as friends on that one,
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
This is a great thread, but I kinda regret reviving it. Having three CCR threads among all Geir's polls for a couple of days was rad though.
― caek, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
chronicles vol. 1
― am0n, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
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― am0n, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
Tom - yeah, you might have a point there. A lot of people seem to know "Bad Moon Rising" and "Fortunate Son", but often don't know who it's by.
I personally think that CCR didn't have the kind of "media presence" here that they did in the US. A lot of rock''roll memory is about associating a name to a face. I kind of think that the British equivalent is T-Rex. Lot's of Americans probably know "Get It On" ("Bang A Gong"), but didn't have enough TV exposure of Marc Bolan for T-Rex to become iconic in the USA.
I understand where you are coming from with the Status Quo reference, but I think the USA vs. UK disconnect is due to the different ways our respective media work (especially TV) than any profound musical differences.
― PhilK, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
Dude we love T. Rex
― Mr. Que, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
But not in the same way you love CCR. Which is kind of my point.
― PhilK, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
i dunno, there's a lot of love for them (T. Rex) over here.
― Mr. Que, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
C'mon, as PhilK said there are a handful of T Rex songs that are huge in the US, but T Rex doesn't have anything like the profile of CCR on e.g. classic rock radio. You can regularly hear 80% of Chronicle vol 1 there, but the only T Rex you'll regularly get is "Get It On".
― Euler, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
They're both great bands (imho obv.)
But I'm talking in kind of "folk memory" terms, which is admittedly vague, but...
The difference I sense is that CCR have a strong sentimental appeal to Americans - they're the kind of consensus band that everyone can love, through various generations, whereas T-Rex have a different kind of appeal - more different, more alien.
And the same applies to T-Rex in the UK - generally they have a univeral cross-generational appeal, whereas CCR are more of a niche classic rock/americanophile band (and I'm an americanophile at heart).
Of course, this may just be my personal perception, but it seems to be "true" to me.
― PhilK, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
did CCR ever tour the UK...?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
cuz that might explain a bit.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
if I had a band we would start every show with "Ramble Tamble."
― will, Saturday, 13 October 2007 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
but chooglin' though
― LaMonte, Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
truer now than it ever was
― omar little, Sunday, 20 January 2008 21:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
"by the way, in 1969, Bayou Country reached #41 on Billboard's "Black Albums" chart"
Led Zep were on the black LP chart too that year
while both bands were undeniably influenced by black music, somehow or another those groups on the soul listings is kinda farfetched
― Rev. Hoodoo, Sunday, 20 January 2008 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wow. Creedence really is a black hole for us Britishers. 2 questions : Why any good? Where to start?
― Thomas, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
1) Chooglin' 2) Records
― contenderizer, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
how did i never see ian post this and post to it?
― bb, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'd say the best entry point would be "Green River" (altho all the LPs are remarkably solid, with the possible exception of their swansong, "Mardi Gras")
Explaining WHY they are great is a bit more complex.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Where to start? Chronicle Volume 1. Why any good? Read the thread.
― Euler, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
Does ben hate CCR?
― ian, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
ooh yeah Chronicles Vol 1 has all the hits, I forgot about their collections.
altho it should be noted that that's all the singles, and the weirder/crazier/more interesting stuff like Ramble Tamble (which I think one the CCR POO poll?) and Pagan Baby and such are not on there
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
eh nevermind maybe I guess there was just a singles poll, not a POO
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
jesus no! (see the dating zeppelin thread) i feel like we must have gone over this very topic though in the friday warehouse...thread and that i must have provided my "creedance is the grand unifier" theory in the "we can all agree" thread at some point...
i guess i ignore ilm so regularly in recent years, i just missed it
― bb, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
i have trust and love for those who actively love ccr, steely dan, and fleetwood mac
― omar little, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
I love this thread. Thomas, as a Brit who gets Creedence, yeah, the best place to start if probably with Chronicles Vol. 1. Nuthin' but smashes. I'm jealous of you. Your first few listens will be like discovering the greatest singles band ever for the first time.
― caek, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
Your first few listens will be like discovering the greatest singles band ever for the first time.
How does Alex in NYC feel about CCR?
― caek, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm looking forward to this. will report back tomorrow.
― Thomas, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
I remember hearing CCR for the 1st time when i got the chronicles cd in the mid 90s. I was amazed they werent that well known here in the uk apart from 1 uk no1 single as that singles comp is one awesome single followed by even more awesome singles. 1st album proper i heard was Cosmo's factory so i'd suggest getting that too.
― Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
If you love Chronicle then I say just get the box set.
― caek, Thursday, 28 February 2008 23:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah..theres some filler on the box, but...worth it otherwise to have the rest
― bb, Friday, 29 February 2008 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
a. thomas does not represent us all b. omar little otm.
― Frogman Henry, Friday, 29 February 2008 02:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
c. chronicles 1 is just about superseded by this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Moon-Rising-Creedence-Clearwater/dp/B0000C4LZ7/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1204250965&sr=1-8 so i would say get that if you see it on the rack. otherwise the former is cheaper on amazon.
― Frogman Henry, Friday, 29 February 2008 02:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wow. Creedence really is a black hole for us Britishers
What utter shite.
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 10:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
Honestly, I'm not sure I know anyone who doesn't like Creedence
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
you've already had this argument Tom - last October upthread.
you've got to admit that compared to the US CCR don't have anywhere near the same cultural influence. sure they have their fans and they may have sold a few records back in the day but it's not exactly staple-diet stuff is it?
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ha ha, yeah, I know we've had this argument before... but a "CCR is a black hole for Britishers"? Come on, that's obviously bollocks... received wisdom, I-read-it-somewhere-it-must-be-true bollocks... y'know, like "Punk starting as a reaction against Prog" or "The Winter of Discontent" etc
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
Does CCR have any great 'influence' in the current scheme of things in the UK?
Computer says noh.
― Mark G, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
Seriously though, what American rock bands were selling lots of records in the UK in the late 60s/ early 70s? Were there any? The only one I can think of is Canned Heat!
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Eagles?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
um
Hendrix Dylan Doors Byrds CSNY Beach Boys
& lots more surely
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Oh, CCR sold well over here, sure!
8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Proud Mary Single May 1969 1 Creedence Clearwater Revival Bad Moon Rising Single Aug 1969 19 Creedence Clearwater Revival Green River Single Nov 1969 20 Creedence Clearwater Revival Green River Album Jan 1970 31 Creedence Clearwater Revival Down On The Corner Single Feb 1970 10 Creedence Clearwater Revival Willy And The Poor Boys Album Mar 1970 8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Travellin' Band Single Apr 1970 3 Creedence Clearwater Revival Up Around The Bend Single Jun 1970 20 Creedence Clearwater Revival Long As I Can See The Light Single Sep 1970 1 Creedence Clearwater Revival Cosmo's Factory Album Sep 1970 8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Pendulum Album Jan 1971 36 Creedence Clearwater Revival Have You Ever Seen The Rain Single Mar 1971 36 Creedence Clearwater Revival Sweet Hitch-Hiker Single Jul 1971
xpost Eagles were post 1975
― Mark G, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Tell you what though, the doors?
15 Doors Hello I Love You, Won't You Tell Me Your Name? Single Aug 1968 16 Doors Waiting For The Sun Album Sep 1968 Notes 12 Doors Morrison Hotel Album Apr 1970 Notes 28 Doors L.A. Woman Album Jul 1971 Notes 22 Doors Riders On The Storm Single Oct 1971
i.e. not much at the time!
― Mark G, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hendrix doesn't really count. It's entirely possible that CCR sold more records in the UK than all of those acts in 1969/70. The Byrds couldn't get arrested after 1967. Beach Boys weren't doing much business either. The Doors possibly. Dylan, doubt it. I'm not sure how popular CSN(Y) actually were in the UK.
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I guess I've answered "which American rock bands from the 60/70s have sold a lot of records in the UK" , not Tom's question!
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
Without fail, my parents' friends and my friends' parents all have copies of CSNY albums. ( Although I admit this is as much of a straw poll as your friends all liking Creedence)
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Relevant UK chart performance histories, '67-72:
13 Beach Boys Surfer Girl Album Mar 1967 4 Beach Boys Then I Kissed her Single May 1967 8 Beach Boys Heroes And Villains Single Aug 1967 3 Beach Boys Best Of The Beach Boys Volume 2 Album Oct 1967 9 Beach Boys Smiley Smile Album Nov 1967 29 Beach Boys Wild Honey Single Nov 1967 11 Beach Boys Darlin' Single Jan 1968 7 Beach Boys Wild Honey Album Mar 1968 25 Beach Boys Friends Single May 1968 1 Beach Boys Do It Again Single Jul 1968 13 Beach Boys Friends Album Sep 1968 8 Beach Boys Best Of The Beach Boys Volume 3 Album Nov 1968 33 Beach Boys Bluebirds Over The Mountain Single Dec 1968 10 Beach Boys I Can Hear Music Single Feb 1969 3 Beach Boys 20/20 Album Mar 1969 6 Beach Boys Break Away Single Jun 1969 5 Beach Boys Cottonfields Single May 1970 5 Beach Boys Greatest Hits Album Sep 1970 29 Beach Boys Sunflower Album Dec 1970 15 Beach Boys Surf's Up Album Nov 1971 25 Beach Boys Carl And The Passions/So Tough Album Jun 1972
37 Byrds Younger Than Yesterday Album Apr 1967 12 Byrds The Notorious Byrd Brothers Album May 1968 15 Byrds Dr Byrds And Mr Hyde Album May 1969 11 Byrds Untitled Album Nov 1970 19 Byrds Chestnut Mare Single Feb 1971
6 Bob Dylan Greatest Hits Album Jan 1967 1 Bob Dylan John Wesley Harding Album Mar 1968 30 Bob Dylan I Threw It All Away Single May 1969 1 Bob Dylan Nashville Skyline Album May 1969 5 Bob Dylan Lay Lady Lay Single Sep 1969 1 Bob Dylan Self Portrait Album Jul 1970 1 Bob Dylan New Morning Album Nov 1970 24 Bob Dylan Watching The River Flow Single Jul 1971 12 Bob Dylan More Bob Dylan Greatest Hits Album Dec 1971
17 Crosby Stills & Nash Marrakesh Express Single Aug 1969 25 Crosby Stills & Nash Crosby, Stills And Nash Album Aug 1969 5 Crosby Stills Nash & Young Deja Vu Album May 1970 5 Crosby Stills Nash & Young Four-Way Street Album May 1971
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
Bobby D FTW
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
Dylan+Beach Boys always big in the UK
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
Biggest (selling) bands in the world were all British though... pretty much?
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
Until The Eagles!!!
― Tom D., Friday, 29 February 2008 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
Beatles, Stones, Zep, Who, and also the Kinks who became mega in the States after tanking it here.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 29 February 2008 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
"Creedence really is a black hole for us Britishers"
A good example of a band to which this actually applies NRBQ Classic or Dud
― Frogman Henry, Friday, 29 February 2008 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
Reporting back after first listen to chronicles ( granted didn't give it full concentration as I'm supposed to be working)
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Voice is gonna take some getting used to. but music generally great.
thanks, ILM!
from allmusic
Themes * Drinking * Empowering * Guys Night Out * Hanging Out * TGIF * The Great Outdoors * Victory * Celebration * Road Trip * Freedom
― Thomas, Friday, 29 February 2008 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Regardless of their chart performance at the time, they're pretty much unknown to people my age (26) except as that band the guy in the Big Lebowski likes.
― caek, Friday, 29 February 2008 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
Mind you, I know it's been said before but:
20 Creedence Clearwater Revival Green River Jan 1970 10 Creedence Clearwater Revival Willy And The Poor Boys Mar 1970 1 Creedence Clearwater Revival Cosmo's Factory Sep 1970 8 Creedence Clearwater Revival Pendulum Jan 1971
So that's 2 months, 6 months, 4 months. And that's just the ones that made the UK charts!
― Mark G, Friday, 29 February 2008 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
Dire Oyster Revival is the best band ever.
― CaptainLorax, Friday, 29 February 2008 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
There are lots but the best example, without a shadow of a doubt, is Kiss.
― Tom D., Saturday, 1 March 2008 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
Journey, too, I believe.
― QuantumNoise, Saturday, 1 March 2008 13:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
that's depressing! i'm 25, and while the big lebowski's done a lot to sustain CCR's popularity, i know lots of people that love them aside from that!
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
I fully endorse the title of this thread.
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 14 March 2008 02:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's creedence friday!
― omar little, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's Creedence Friday
-- dmr, Friday, March 28, 2008 12:45 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― omar little, Friday, 28 March 2008 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
so down w/ creedence friday. it's chooglin' time
― 6335, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
CHOOGLIN TIME!
The only problem with Creedence Friday is that now all other Fridays just won't be the same. We'll have to make every Friday Creedence Friday!
― nickalicious, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
Woodstock Chooglin'
― milo z, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
EVERY FRIDAY IS CREEDENCE FRIDAY.
― ian, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^^^!!
― omar little, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
woodstock choogle is the best thing i've heard all day
― 6335, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
― dmr, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ramble Tamble
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Friday, 28 March 2008 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
― omar little, Friday, 2 May 2008 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
TH: We often cover Creedence Clearwater Revival, which is weird because I don't personally like them as a band, but it turns out...like, I don't like Proud Mary. You know that song?
Pitchfork: Yeah, I do.
TH: I don't like that song.
Cancelling Les Savy Fav fanclub membership.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 5 May 2008 12:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't like Proud Mary. You know that song?
He knows THAT song? Just... wow!
― MRZBW, Monday, 5 May 2008 13:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
He had to ask who sung "Jeremy" tho, sounds like he's heard maybe 4-5 records ever
― Niles Caulder, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
TH is not me by the way
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 May 2008 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
fuck les savy fav imo
― omar little, Thursday, 4 December 2008 08:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
tru
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
ramble tamble is f'in awesome, but it has that line that creepsme out: "actors in the white house." it's like weird reagan prophecy...has anyone else noticed this? this song was written at least ten years before RWR was elected President...what is going on with Fogerty & co.?
― Hipster Loser-Loser (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 December 2008 01:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
ramble tamble is f'in awesome, but it has that line that creepsme out: "actors in the white house." i it's like weird reagan prophecy...has anyone else noticed this? this song was written at least ten years before RWR was elected President...what is going on with Fogerty & co.?
While still governor of California, Reagan ran for President in 1968 - he actually beat out Nixon in overall popular vote, but didn't have enough delegates to defeat Nixon.
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 5 December 2008 01:53 (1 year ago) Permalink