BEARDO DISCO (finally fixed for vahid) - not idjuts / lindstrom

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there's no doubt a zeitgeist/parallel thing that's gone on the last few years, with bearded free-folk revival, folktronica and Jane, the post-No Neck MIke Love-looking jam bands, and the Afro-Cosmic Italo scene. Lindstrom and co. are equal parts Metro Area disco-continuum and bearded hippie disco a-la Harvey down to Rub-n-Tug. It's all very happening and pretty exciting, I think - Dan Selzer

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

did you know thomas bullock (of rub'n'tug, map of africa) was a founding member of BOTH a.r.e. weapons AND the wicked crew SF (w/ jeno, garth, markie mark)?!?!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

anyway this is the thread where dan selzer tells us about bearded hippie disco

things we don't know like

what is WHATEVER WE WANT records all about?

who are BOBBIE MARIE, QUIET VILLAGE PROJECT and OTTERMAN EMPIRE? are they also dj harvey + thomas bullock?

also where can one find the FRAGMENTS OF FEAR (mixed w/ blood by quiet village project) cdr?

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

where did you nab that from, some other thread or NY Happnins?

― titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

it's from the middle of the kelley polar thread

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm just an innocent bystander, don't know much about any of it, particularly the new stuff. Personally, some of it leans towards the krautrocky spectrum and I like that and some it leans towards the hippie spectrum and I like that less. There's a lot of re-discovery/digging going on through unexplored territories of late 70s early 80s stuff all with that Cosmic vibe to it, much of it stuff you'd initially dismiss as cheesy, like Bumrocks hosting a Kim Carnes extended version and being like, wow, that's amazing. I just feed off what my once alldisco partner jeremy digs out of dj history forum. And being who I am, it's still easier to pick up random used records then keep up with the records you are talking about, which aren't easy to come by, or cheap.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

but yeah, http://bumrocks.com/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

I really want the Rub 'n' Tug mix on Eskimo, it looks so ace, t'll probably be my next purchase (how much of a roll are Eskimo on with their mixes eh? Off topic question for all & sundry: is the Chromeo mix any good?).

I've heard Harvey talked about round here but I think the only thing I have of his is a great remix of Extended Family's "Ulysses" from back in the day (er, 1998). On a Jon Carter mix so I had long assumed he made hard-edged tribal house or something. Would his Ministry of Sound mix be the one to get or is that too old to be representative?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

saw a bootleg comp. a couple days ago with six of these type of tracks, several of which had been on Bumrocks.com within the past year. Can't remember exactly what was on it .... Klaus Weiss "Dirt Track" was one ...

anyway it was called Musica Obscura presents Cosmic Disco. I thought the sound quality was maybe a little iffy, though. I didn't buy it.

― Renard (Renard), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

okay then here's my problem: number one, i don't see much of a connection with this stuff (other than beards) (and maybe weed and pbr) and freak folk and other current trendzzz. (but that just might be because i hate hippies.) (except for raving hippies.) secondly, isn't this just the next wave of dance-rock, except with soft rock and prog and whatnot replacing post-punk? third, isn't this just a continuation of previous disco (not disco) activity (cf. steve miller band on first comp)? and doesn't that just make it larry levan playing krautrock? (possible actual connection to previous gen of dance-rock: delia and gavin.) (search your heart, you know it to be true.) that said, i absolutely adore what little i've heard, especially quiet village. so with that in mind, i think we should rename this thread yacht house. (because, all respect to dan, i think the linkage is sartorial at best.)

― cancer prone fat guy, Friday, 13 January 2006 23:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

there's not much house in (the wonderful) map of africa.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

dj harvey hasn't done anything representative of his current style except a couple of CDr mixes for LA streetwear labels (one for freshjive and one for sarcastic).

his current sound is sort of like theo parrish meets joey negro or something. he runs towards the spacier, murkier, more deconstructed end of the disco re-edits spectrum. like an andrew weatherall (circa rehab, mid 90s sabres sound) type take on the idjut boys re-edits sound.

i LOVE the rub'n'tug mix on eskimo. as much or more than the dj naughty mix! it's similar in vibe to the glimmers dj kicks mix, except w/ much more vintage stuff and much less current stuff.

it's also way noisier than you'd expect, in the "noise annoys" sense. the opening track is like full-on tribal drumming a la 23 skiddoo or something. lots of the other tracks are tweaked w/ filters or played too loud into the red (very much like theo parrish does on his live mixes, but w/ more abrasive source material the end result is ... quite bracing!)

anyway to repeat: i LOVE the rub'n'tug mix!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

xpost - you are totally right!! i meant to title the thread BEARDO DISCO. at this point i use "house" almost interchangeably w/ "mixed music people dance to in clubs that isn't hip-hop".

could a mod maybe change the thread title to BEARDO DISCO, especially since i think we are (inevitably, since even so much of the "new" stuff is covers and re-edits, see map of africa) going to swerve into a discussion of vintage beardo disco, sooner or later.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the Rub'n'Tug mix is GREAT. In the fucking red, mistakes all over the place, stupid built in mixer fx over the top, fucking Cozy Powell on the track list etc. Really fun.

Chromeo mix is like it's polar opposite - anal, neat 80s stuff. Exactly as you think it'd sound. (Although I've only listenen d to it once so far so I may be wrong)

Out of the two I'd say go for the R'n'T first.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

What's the Map Of Africa "Black Skin Blue Eyed Boys" like? I love the Equals original version (although "Stand Up and be Counted" is the best Equals track - why's no-one ever talk about that?)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 14 January 2006 00:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

yes I bought both of those Cosmic Disco bootlegs. They don't sound great, but good enough! Some very cool stuff on those though.

Are there any stores in the US that stock this stuff? I know me and everyone I talk to in NY orders from Flexx and Picadilly and the like.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 00:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

"i LOVE the rub'n'tug mix on eskimo. as much or more than the dj naughty mix! it's similar in vibe to the glimmers dj kicks mix, except w/ much more vintage stuff and much less current stuff."

Yeah this sounds like exactly what I was hoping for. I like the way that all these different Eskimo-related comps seem like stars that form different parts of a larger constellation, each distinct and individual but forming part of a larger vision/mission.

With Campfire I'm imagining something like a more a rustic version of the awesome peak in The Glimmers' DJ Mix that goes "Feel Like I Feel" --> "Impi (Dub)" --> "The Groove Machine (Idjut Boys Mix)" --> "Cassette". Is that off-base?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 January 2006 04:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

also where can one find the FRAGMENTS OF FEAR (mixed w/ blood by quiet village project) cdr?

check the ysi thread

― Yawn (Wintermute), Saturday, 14 January 2006 05:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Are there any stores in the US that stock this stuff?"

not sure if you're talking about the bootlegs or the newer stuff, but I saw the Cosmic Disco boot at Mondo Kim's

some other related but not quite beardo stuff like Lee Douglas (Rong), Padded Cell, Emperor Machine I've found at Turntablelab. I guess that's more like the "idjuts / lindstrom" side of things. I'm not 100% clear on where the line is being drawn here.

― Renard (Renard), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

ha, all this as I'm planning a cosmic disco primer piece

― Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

also, that DJ Pica Pica Pica record seems like double genius now

― Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

ha ha, i was going to say last night that Pica Pica Pica handled this shit in ''99, but I opted to keep my mouth shut.

― titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dominique...you should see the flyers I just got from Jeremy at Alldisco. 170 freaking flyers of Cosmic parties in italy.

The thing I love so much about Cosmic is that it represents a similarly broad taste in music and a sort of meaningful eclecticism that I always try to put into my DJ sets. The ability to play weird new wave records mixed with classic disco, african percussion, italo etc and create this vibe is just so beautiful. Gomma doesn't seem to be hosting the mixes anymore, so I'll YSI one or two.

Lee Douglas starts his new party tonight with Duane from Other Music. Basically, we killed off Alldisco and split saturdays at Capones with past guests/friends. 1 saturday a month will be Jeremy who started Alldisco, one will be Duane and Doug, 1 will Be Dan Balis and Eugene Cho (Dan has house records out and I think plays on the Lee Douglas record, as well as one of the Metro Area 12"s) and I forget who gets the last saturday.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

also, Flexx is hosting the Tutu mix, which I first heard a year or two ago when talk turned to Cosmic on another mailing list. It was unclear if it was a vintage mix or new, but it definately has the Cosmic vibe and features a few cosmic classics.

http://flexx.org/mix/tutu33.mp3

and I'm uploading one of the gomma-hosted mixes to YSI now.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

Mixes ? You want mixes right ? How about the original "cosmic" ones from over 20 years ago:

http://web.tiscali.it/mix_archives/?

― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 16:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

that site must be where those flyers came from.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 16:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think the emperor machine/chicken lips fits into this category?

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 16:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

here's one of my favorites of the Cosmic mixes from DJ LODA:

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31GI1HJDH4D203MQ0ITNHB3AQ9

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 16:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

I only recently discovered Emperor Machine, but I love it, Definately a bit more on the krautrocky side. I love Pop Goes the Spaceman, which I learned about through that Simian mix that was going around a few months ago.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 16:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

the album kind of flew under everyone's radar. there was a tiny thread on it:

The Emperor Machine - "Aimee Tallulah Is Hypnotised" - just can't stop listening to it.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 16:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

the emperor machine - roller daddy

― Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 14 January 2006 17:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

going bakc to whatever we want records, there have been seven releases so far -

2 quiet village 12"s. i'm not so hot on these. quiet village is matt from radio slave and joel martin.

2 map of africa 12"s. both of these are great with 'dirty lovin' of the first one being a particular fave. as far as i know, map of africa is thomas bullock and harvey though i heard the second one doesn't feature harvey. 'black skin blue eyed boys' sounds as if a young lemmy is doing the singing

2 bobbie marie 7"s. bobbie marie is thomas and some other guy. the first 7" is a really stoopid punk funk track with lots of farmyard noises. the second one has a great track on it that sounds a bit like suicide jamming with the gun club.

the last releases is by otterman empire and is a re edit thingie with a doors edit on one side and a dire straits on the other!

i keep hearing how hard these are to pick up but they seem to have reasonably good distribution in the uk.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

bakc????

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have done a little mix of stuff (a little) like what is discussed here, with some house aswell, the tracklisting is as follows. I've included the labels where I can remember them, and will have a link as soon as I figure out how to transfer from my minidisc to the PC.

1. Prins Thomas-Goettsching (Full Pupp)
2. Stratus-Looking Glass (Reverso 68 Mix) (Klein)
3. Jungle Wonz-The Jungle
4. Chicken Lips-Sweet Cow (Lindstrom Mix)
5. Greenman-Discotheque (Soul Jazz)
6. Kohib-Truger (Beat Service)
7. Black Dice-Smiling Off (Luomo Mix) (DFA)
8. Sebastian Tellier-La Ritournelle (Jake Bullit Mix) (Lucky Number)

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

anyone willing to share that map of africa 'dirty lovin' track?
(like please?)

― tunes, Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah - that Emperor Machine album is great. I don't think it was ever released in the US (was it?).

Sad to hear about the Alldisco split, Dan. You guys DJ'ing together was always guaranteed fun.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

tunes - here's 'dirty lovin' by map of africa.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

thankyou stirmonster, - OMG what a great track!

― tunes, Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

4. Chicken Lips-Sweet Cow (Lindstrom Mix)

can someone YSI this?

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Stir! Even that one sounds like a balaeric Motorhead!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm just waiting for someone to make their career by doing a really killer José González remix, something really thick-sounding and warm, like Junip I guess but obviously with actual beats, warm fat acousticy synths that wash over you, folktronic tracks that set the stage for the bigtime toms, or something.

Also, someone should mashup "Maps" with some José G, somehow, and make us lame indie kids' year.

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

the quiet village records are all re-edits btw. it's been discussed at length on djhistory. some people slightly miffed that it's packaged more like original material. my fav, pillowtalk is alan parsons i forget who else.

some of my favorite unexpected things that have popped up on the cosmic mixes from the tiscali site:

jj cale at 45
dave mason - wervin' (with r. wyatt on vocals) (you can dl another track from that lp as my track of the day at the newly minted http://www.dreamchimney.com/tracks/profile/captain it'll be up 'til monday). there's a few other dudes on there that post some great stuff if you don't know.
art of noise - paranoia
papa's got a brand new pigbag at 33

as far as that campfire mix, i guess it's kind of "rad" that they left all their crap mixes and skips and yanking all the volume levels up and down in there, but it's pretty unlistenable to my ears. they play some great stuff, no doubt, but it doesn't have much continuity for home listening. i'm sure it was a different story if you were there and i'm sure those guys could give a fuck...

i much prefer the piles of baldelli and loda mixes currently on my hd (courtesy of the tiscali site, where all the flyers came from). check out baldelli's interview at
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/LECTURERS.95.0.html too. great stuff.

the capone's saturday schedule now is as follows:

1st saturday: k. life walks + friends - tons of connects in the mid-late 80's miami bass scene. him and a bud did the tape edits on the beat club "security". nowadays he plays sweet disco and club classics.

2nd saturday (tonight) get into somethin' w/doug lee aka lee douglass + duane (negroclash). plus twilite tone and a live performance by black spade this week.

3rd saturday me (jeremy campbell) + guests. this week matt radune.

4th saturday: cabaret featuring escort (dan balis, eugene cho and darius mahgen who have a record coming out on environ). darshan from metro area plays with them this month.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

i might add that the best part of the baldelli interview is the face he makes when he's playing harry thumann underwater at 33 and briefly switches to normal speed to show how terrible it sounds...

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

I like that song at any speed!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

are you playing "dirty lovin" out, stir? great track. it reminds me of led zeppelin a bit.

i am listening to the dj loda mix that dan linked to above now. cosmic is definitely the right word!! excellent set...

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have no idea what any of this stuff is but I like it. DJ harvey is here in SF soon, i think.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

it's tonight...

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

...oh

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

'underwater' is mega at the right speed. and breakfast pants, i've been playing the 'dirty lovin' out lots, well in glasgow anyway.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 00:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey, could be off-topic but for those of you at home right now (in the US), Escape From New York is playing on the Spike network on cable.

i play this soundtrack a lot, but i've never seen the film. needless to say, tv volume is real high right now.

i don't know if that's "beardo house", but Carpenter certainly falls within that bumrocksy "LES dollar bin" aesthetic.

― titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

If only Carpenter had made a disco record! Or even better a disco record and film starring Kurt Russell. I guess the Escape From New York soundtrack has his highest beat content.

I have an Escape From LA UK 12" of drum and bass versions of the theme in my out pile at the minute. It's crap.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Carpenter gets total props from the italo fiends. The End Credits were listed in last years top 100 all-time at the Cybernetic Broadcasting System.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, it was on one of the Serie Noir comps as well.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

movie was good. so i'm still a little unclear about this "beardo house" thing. Sounds like something undefined we wish we existed rather than an actual movement that is out there gaining momentum.

there's this italo/kosmiche/random obscuro DJing approach, then the Pica Pica Pica/Lift Boys/BD Cone Toaster/3xc3pt3r (dubious) beatmaking. I see them existing in parallel, but it's frustrating how they won't meet.

where is the point of common origin? Gottsching?

― titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 15 January 2006 03:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've got a Rub 'n' Tug mix CD sitting around- a promo for the aNYthing clothing line, I think. It's got a lot of the same problems as the Eskimo mix (dropouts, sloppy mixing, etc.) but it's great nonetheless. I'll get a YSI up if anyone's interested.

― telephone thing, Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

that's just it, it's very vague. The tracklisting of the original Cosmic mixes include new wave, 80s pop, disco, kosmiche/krautrock, whatever. It's more about the vibe, man. I see that as being separate though from what I think of as Idjust/Harvey type thing which is more about drugged out disco meets classic rock kind of thing. Maybe it's just the order in which I was exposed to various things, but I never heard anyone talking about Cosmic before the italo revival, which is only peripherally related.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

the bar i have a night at has built up a relationship with harvey, so we get him in 4 or 5 times a year, by the end of the night you've heard a billion kajillion tracks you'd kill to own. people love it when he does it, but to be honest, most of these records don't work when i play them, much as i love them. guess that's why he gets the big bucks.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

not to be too cynical, but I'd say there's a lot to the "cult of the DJ" kinda thing. I mean, if the party is right, if the crowd is right, if I've learned anything, half the time the music is like, the 5th or 6th most important factor to a good time. I've seen Harvey play to empty rooms just like the rest of us...I mean, if a crowd comes for him, they'll be into it, but that's not always the case.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 05:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

a YSI of that rub n' tug mix would be great, telephone thing. thx for the offer!

― rajeev (rajeev), Sunday, 15 January 2006 06:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like something undefined we wish we existed rather than an actual movement that is out there gaining momentum.

But that's the best kind of movement! And all we need to do is get someone to write an article and then it'll be real! I might do it for Stylus.

Carpenter gets total props from the Italo fiends.

I knew this, I was just started imagining if he made a disco concept album with vocals (by famous people) and stuff. Someone should do a Broadway musical of Escape from New York or They Live.

I'd love a YSI Telephone Thing.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also, I have a beard. What does the beard itself signify or mean? That's the key.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

If only Carpenter had made a disco record!

you NEED this album: Unit Black Flight - Infiltration and Extraction

― Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 15 January 2006 14:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

(haha i knew i had done a thread on this topic before. took me forever to find because of the crappy title)

― Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 15 January 2006 14:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Looks cool if ltd. (Which is why I'm d/ling from slsk. Oh well.)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 16:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

I thought I would share this Quiet Village Song,

Also, does Betty Botox fit into this Beardo Disco?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

i thin betty botox is transsexual disco. she does have a wee bit of facial hair though.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

think.

time for a new eyboard!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm having trouble figuring out the Tiscali site linked to above. The mixes and flyers all bring up "you do not have permission ... " messages, and the "Members Only" link just brings up an email to the administrator .... is there some kind of a sign-up? Am I just being dense? Thnx in advance. I'd like to hear some of those mixes.

― Renard (Renard), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2QL6VN3HR2UPG0VNF03E5NP9QN
here's the link for Quiet Village Project-Too High To Move

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

Can someone please post some more of these elusive treats? i'm itchin to hear 'black skin, blue eyed boys', and 'bb gun' + 'rodeo' by Bobby Marie - can't find them anywhere. Thnx in advance.

― johnny jones, Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

here's the dub of bobbie marie's 'bb gun'. it's kind of dumb, but i like it.

i don't have 'black skin, blue eyed boys' digitised.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 20:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

black skin blue eyed boys was over at http://www.thefutureisprimitive.blogspot.com/
for a bit. i'm sure if you leave comment for a re-up mikey will oblige

― jaime, Sunday, 15 January 2006 22:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

just so you don't all think i'm crazy, i wasn't saying i thought underwater was crap at normal speed. i do think i like it slightly better slowed though. i dunno, it probably depends on the context in which it's played. film 2 by grauzone on the other hand, is probably the best example i can think of of a song that sounds more normal slowed down than at the right speed.

for those who absolutely need an id for something from one of those mixes, if you yousendit a clip and post it on djhistory, you can usually get an answer pretty quick. the most extensive cosmic threads on there mostly happened back in '03, so those guys have had the time to figure a lot of it out. it's only failed me once...

they also had a thread on beards recently.
http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13672

the relationship between italo disco and the cosmic scene, if you believe baldelli, was pretty nil. he says he didn't like or follow much of that stuff and was much more into the german electronic stuff. i think he said sky was his favorite label in that red bull interview.

for the tiscali site, you have to email the guy for a password. you may also have to download the opera browser if you aren't handy with ftp.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

firstworldman wrote "to be honest, most of these records don't work when i play them, much as i love them. guess that's why (harvey) gets the big bucks."

i think somebody once said, "it's not what you say, it's how you say it"

applies equally to djing i'd say.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

of course the stuff dan mentions also applies. i'm sure it doesn't hurt him that he often plays big rooms of people expecting to hear harveyesque tunes. i'm guessing it's a long road (involving plenty of empty rooms) to get to that point.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

Here's a Quiet Village mix linked in a recent Eskimo mailout. It's YSI, not a direct link, since I can't find the old email, but I'll post the link if I find it.

― telephone thing, Monday, 16 January 2006 03:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

Ah, never mind, I missed the earlier upload on the YSI thread. Use this one if the earlier one uses up its allotted bandwidth, I guess.

― telephone thing, Monday, 16 January 2006 04:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

film 2 by grauzone on the other hand, is probably the best example i can think of of a song that sounds more normal slowed down than at the right speed

otm. i much prefer it slowed down. not part of the cosmic thang but probably the most famous example of a song being slowed down and then becoming massive as a result is 'flesh' by a split second which was actually re released in its' 33.333 + 8 version.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 16 January 2006 04:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

where can i buy a copy of the rub'n'tug mix?

― francis izzy stradlin deth, Monday, 16 January 2006 06:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

a split second is new beat right? i guess that probably wasn't the only thing that got slowed down in those clubs.

so, aside from jim burgess, i can't think of many examples of american djs doing the 45 @ 33 thing back in the day. anyone know of any other examples. i wonder if that would have happened more if it was more common to press 12"s at 45 here.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Monday, 16 January 2006 08:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

"not part of the cosmic thang ..."

but some of the other new beat records were part of the cosmic thang? I listened to that Tutu mix yesterday and was surprised to hear Logic System and Carlos Peron one after the other.

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 16 January 2006 15:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

what's the story, that New Beat was heavily influenced by playing that A Split Second song slowed down? They were like an industrial band, Parralax View was a favorite of mine for a week or two. Now I prefer the movie.

I think the Cosmic thing was about whatever the hell fit. There's also crossover with the WBMX DJs, who certainly play faster and more italo-disco, but also play a lot of the new wave/pop oddities that show up in the Cosmic mixes as well.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

belgian dj marc grouls started playing 'flesh' at 33.3 and it had such an impact that all the djs started looking for tracks they could play slowed down until they decided it was easier to start producing their own - hence new beat.

i think the fact that most european 12"s are pressed at 45rpm as graham gouldman mentions is a big factor. i think djs all over europe have always done this. the reverse also happened - when the first breakbeat rave records (eg shut up and dance) started coming out, there were so few of them that it became common to play instrumentals of us hip hop records at 45 to fill out a set. i still play schoolly d instrumentals at 45 instead of 33.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

eg - schooly d's 'freestyle cutting' @ 45rpm

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

schooly d's@ 45rpm

interesting... i can't say it really makes me feel like dancing. maybe in the right time and place - or with the right drugs.

i have to say it's much easier for me to like something slowed than sped up, but that just makes it more satisfying to find something that works sped up. i was messing around with the break from james gang funk #49 today. sounds pretty nice at 45 and then there's a pause at the end where the guitar comes back in where you can switch it back to 33 without being able to tell. some dj somewhere has to have figured that one out before though.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

thinking more about it, i'm realizing that, aside from the speed, what appeals to me about slowing stuff is the relative fidelity. if something is too slick sounding, slowing it dirties it up a bit. maybe it's all in my head, but, especially with a lot of digital recordings, i feel like taking it down from 16 bit to maybe 12 or so can make a world of difference.

conversely, with speeding things up, you get this condensed, almost shimmery or polished feel. a bit disconcerting sometimes.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

YES PLEASE

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

FURTHER DISCUSSION TOPICS

BIG BEAR / FULL PUPP / HAIRY CLAW / BEAR FUNK / BEAR ENTERTAINMENT / ETC family

RONG MUSIC / THICK AS THIEVES / BEN COOK / DJ SPUN / DJ HARRY / ETC family

FREESTYLE LTD AND OTHER EVEN MORE OBSCURE RE-EDIT LABELS

the elusive UNIVERSAL INDIANN

A THEORETICAL MEETING-OF-MINDS WHERE CLASH+BLONDIE : RAMMELZEE + GRANDAMASTER FLASH :: HARVEY + IDJUTS, ETC : MOODYMANN + THEO P

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can also imagine some cats in Japan owning this thread three times for breakfast and we haven't heard of 'em yet.

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 09:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

You might be interested in Hifana on the jap tip.

― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 09:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

*sigh*
Thanks

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 09:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

A THEORETICAL MEETING-OF-MINDS WHERE CLASH+BLONDIE : RAMMELZEE + GRANDAMASTER FLASH :: HARVEY + IDJUTS, ETC : MOODYMANN + THEO P

The DJing on that Rub 'n' Tug CD sounds more like old Block Party hip hop tapes than it does any regular house DJing, a feeling intensified by the inclusion of the Bronx Dogs track that mashes up parts from Bambaataa's Death Mix

Also, the Re-sdit scene'll surely only get bigger as more people use digital equipment, whether CDs or Ableton Live or whatever (meaning, no need to press 'em to vinyl.)

― Raw Patrick, logged out, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 10:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I sometimes think "Goettsching" on Full Pupp is the greatest track ever. I reckon Full Pupp will be a really huge label this year, and Todd Terje will be very big too.

Does Gamm fit into all of this? I guess not quite.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 11:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

The re-edits scene is frustrating, for every track thats like, a cool re-imagining of a great old song, or even one that doesn't do too much harm to an old and perhaps rare favorite, there's too many who seem to not like the old songs for the same reason I do.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 13:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Terje's version of "I Can't Help It" is good - just a bit dreamier than the original (plus a huge percussion break in the middle)

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 13:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

in other news, Syclops "The Fly" is the jam

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 13:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

It certainly is. I wish Maurice Fulton would put out an album's worth of just Syclops tracks.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 14:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

also, can't believe no one mentioned Optimo here yet (esp Psych Out).

re: the bit above about this not really being an actual "movement" - it isn't, in so far as it's been labeled and people can knowingly subscribe or unsubscribe to it - but I'd wager there are hundreds of DJs and would-be DJs out there who get off on krautrock and psych and prog and who knows what else, and also happen to want to spin beats - and then end up mixing them all up. That's really why I find this thread interesting, a place to talk about these kinds of incidents.

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

slightly off-topic but, is/was Big Two Hundred (chicken lips "post-punk" thing) any good?

The only reason I initially considered it a movement was after seeing Harvey, seeing Run-N-Tug and thinking huh, a bunch of dudes with longish hair and beards playing the Doors' American Prayer mixed with disco.

To me there's a very specific aesthethic that's hard to define, but actually relates to indie-rocks recent ironic or not interest in so-called Yacht Rock, just an interest among disco DJs playing not only classic rock, but smoothly produced 70s stuff and even 80s stuff that was written off as being pretty cheesy for quite a few years. Sure, Steely Dan's Peg and the like have always been dance/disco classics...or have they? But it's deeper then that, and I find myself playing all these classic rock covers...Locomotive Breath by Cat Gang, Les Rocket's On the Road Again, For Your Love by Chilly, down to more conventional disco covers of rock songs like Queen Samantha's The Letter or Revelacion's House of the Rising Sun. I think maybe it's all indicative or rockers getting into disco, whether for the first time, or long-time disco djs rediscovering their childhood rock faves and just having the freedom to mix it all up. I think Harvey helped pave the way to that, at least from what mixes I've heard.

On a practical side, especially when playing to rock crowds, a lot of this stuff works really well.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I definitely agree w/the rockers getting into disco - but then you could chalk it up to rockers getting into stuff that was cool in the late-70s and early 80s, which to a large extent was very beat oriented. indie rock got simultaneously punk-discofied and psych-folkified, it seems around 2001 or 2 or so, and that's also the time I remember reading a lot more people repping Can and Faust in print - not to mention Arthur Russell and ESG. Some bands were already doing this (like, say, Stereolab - and I think they're a great example of exactly the kind of beardo danceability we're talking here), but it seems like *everyone* was doing it in the last 5 years. My question is (aside from the fact that this music was long overdue for some serious hype), why?

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think that optimo are different to the cosmic/disco crowd, psychout seems to put forward their view of psychedelic in a similar way to chuck eddy's definitions of genre. i think optimo have a magpie approach that wedges disparate things into their own vision.

lindstrom/terje/idjuts et al are purists through and through, and i think that beardo house does have that feel of soulboys with baggier, browner knitwear. and i think they fit into the disco/cosmic canon in a way that optimo just don't want to. i love both approaches tho,

the todd terje edits i have are the best of the new crop, i think. he thickens the tracks and extends them without you really noticing as a listener. he reminds me of danny krivit in that respect, who is the don of the edit style. i like terje's new-age picks too, 'dancing digits' and dave samuels' 'dance class'

who did that edit of andreas vollenweider's 'belladonna'? that is so nice!

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think optimo are different to the disco/cosmic crowd too. nebbesh pretty much nails it in his post.

todd terje's edits are really great. his tangoterge edits on supreme have been particularly good. his turtles, 'aquarius' and kraftwerk edits change those tracks but at the same time make you think they should always have sounded like that.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think I'm mostly critical of the Ballroom edits, which I have many of because some of those records are hard to find. But in some cases it's not even the edit issue, I'm just mad they'd reissue Electra without the vocals, but that's just me. But I was really bummed once because I always bring my old copy of the El Coco Cocomotion LP and one day figured I didn't have to because the song is on the flipside to one of the Ballroom boots I usually bring out and when I played it, it had like, none of the impact it usually did, whatever version it was, whether some old single version or someone's edit, I just really think took a great song and made it boring.

I think, on the big pitcure level, dominique, I always say that music seeemed really, and I say this a lot, "stratified and ghettoized" through the 90s. Even within genres there were distinct threads without tons of people crossing their boundaries, while some of the more interesting acts that did totally fell through the cracks and dissapeared. I think post 2000 there's been a big breakdown in those walls.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, the ballroom edits are mostly dreary, which is quite impressive seeing how great some of the originals are. i think they're trying to turn them into house trax (emphasis on the x), but they just sound like filter house without the filter i.e. impossibly boring.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think what's good about Bearded House as an idea to get out there is that there's a lot of (to quote Dominique)would-be DJs out there who get off on krautrock and psych and prog and who knows what else, and also happen to want to spin beats but who then don't get to mix them all up - but now they might....

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

with all the harvey and edit discussion here, hard to believe no one has mentioned black cock yet. don't own any of them, and i'm certainly not going to pay what they go for on ebay these days, but i've heard a couple on mp3 that are pretty cool. definitely waaay ahead of their time with pressing them up all bootleg style.

the track cosmic is one of my faves. kind of done in a ron hardy style. could up it if anyone's interested. anyone got any others to share?

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

cosmic (black cock edit)

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

the black cocks are great but there isn't really very much editing going on on them.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

there's an achingly perverse need for discovery which has djs going in the bins to find new stuff... there's no feeling like jarring memories with new to you(and them) material... i also
suspect that the resurgence of (rock-cosmic-whatever) is due to the fact house music has gone sleepytime soma-set... jack? (in the words of the prince of techno)" what happened?"

who would have thought greg khin band would have been in my crate five years ago ?
not me... i also suppose as i get older i understand the need for nostalgia and i gives me
some perspective on how (too) many years i've been doing this...

incidentally, there's a steppers scene in chicago with djs who have the same ambition
to melt the faces and hearts of dancers with obscure tunes... new kids on the block (extended!) anyone? i guess that's a whole other thread...

― dr. gato, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

the black cocks are great but there isn't really very much editing going on on them.

really? i guess i haven't heard enough of them. that cosmic one is super repetitive, similar to the stuff that ron hardy's nephew has been putting out, but i didn't hear a lot of seams at a casual listen and i don't know the original, so who knows. maybe is a product of doing them on a reel-to-reel? i image it's a lot more complicated to do crazy edits, but then steinski and the latin rascals managed ok.

i heard one of them is a silver apples tune. anything interesting done with it?

btw, someone posted the rub n tug beastie boys remix here:
http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13843

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 08:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey gato, i didn't know greg kihn was big with the steppers?!?!

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 08:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

As much as I like this stuff, at least probably a slice of it that's closer to house than some of the peeps here, it does sort of bug me how whenever there is a new sort of, let's say, DJ music, or some new style for DJing or clubs etc, inevitably people project (and often overstate) their own personal problems with house and techno as the status quo that they are.

Like why must there be these discussions of new non-house/techno DJ forms without someone suggesting they are replacing the latter because it's stale etc. No offence to gato, it was just that post that got me thinking about countless articles over the years.

Is it a self loathing thing? Why must these new trends REPLACE house and techno? Maybe it just shows how old house is by now that people now constantly talk of its impending to death, like rock.

See I think the reason for the success of this stuff is to do with the a similar back to basics ethic which has had a real presence in house and techno too recently. The way dance music, or whatever we need to call some of the newer forms, beat music which DJs are playing sort of bleeds from genre to genre at the moment, and this seems to me what is making it all so good.

There are so many "unifiers" at the moment, like for example "Eurodans" by Todd Terje, it's really peculiar to have the older DJs in Dublin who play alot of funk and soul and disco in bar type settings and the young guys all talking about the same record, I mean utterly peculiar.

I dunno, I just don't like to isolate this sound from house and am probably way over paranoid about any biase towards real instrument music, not sure if it's fair to accuse gato of such a biase, I just was keen to bring up my initial point.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

Like I guess I half agree with Gato, in that I think the rise of this stuff is to do with house becoming a sort of cemented adult genre at this point, but I think the real reason for the success of this sound is that electronic music is massively comfortable with retrospection right now.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

the silver apples one is just the original with the outro looped a little. and yes, the latin rascals and chep nunez did stuff with tape that is still mindblowingly hard to do on a computer. x post

ronan. i don't think there is any bias towards real instruments, at least i hope not. for me, house and techno aren't being replaced, they are just being enhanced by playing other things along side them that seem to sit well amongst the current sounds. it's funny that every time i play something like say 'supernature' someone will ask what it is, presuming it is something new.

i don't really get the fuss with 'eurodans' though. imo, he has done far better tracks that haven't caused nearly as much buzz.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

also, as house is now 20+ years old, it's sometimes hard to get as excited by it as it once was. but then i'm an old fuck who has been dancing to it for more than half my life.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

ronan is real right. anyway, sooner or later, these guys will swing back towards using more tracky sounds, just watch.

anyway rub'n'tug already use 303 tracks in their mixes, harvey never really "left" house, etc etc ... so it's sort of jumping to conclusions to posit a house / beardo divide.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

i predict beardo / detroit techno / west coast house / sa-ra-style r&b crossover any day now.

we're already halfway to detroit techno by playing manuel gottsching and so on.

west coast house was there 10 yrs ago w/ respect to sampling boogie records, post-punk and ESG.

etc etc ...

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

anyway here's a not particularly illuminating interview w/ the head of whatever we want records ...

also still waiting on the YSI for the rub'n'tug mix for aNYthing ... (AHEM)

and at the whatever we want website, there's promise of an mp3 store, fingers crossed...

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Why must these new trends REPLACE house and techno?

if you look back you'll see I said a version of these sentiments as well, but to clarify, for myself as well as this thread, when I talk about the stratification of stuff, it's not to knock a specific genre. I'm as into "house music all night long" as anyone, but at the same time, part of me digs the broader approach. I really enjoy the sets that I do and am suprised that lots of people don't, that they'd prefer to hear me just play old-school hip-hop all night, or 80s all night, or house all night, or detroit techno all night. I'm trying hard to play all kinds of stuff in a way that works and makes sense and am suprised more people don't feel that. Maybe now they're coming around.

The ironic thing is that during the birth of House, it was an exceptionally broad/open/eclectic thing, whether you're talking about the deep house Knuckes/levan kind of thing pulling from disco, rock, world music whatever...or the WBMX mash-up of deep house, italo-disco, pop music and early house. I just find most "house" djs have a much more narrow view.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

no doubt, "eclectic aesthetic" (to steal from theo p) is the BIG dance trend of the mid 00s.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

no doubt, "eclectic aesthetic" (to steal from theo p) is the BIG dance trend of the mid 00s.

I find it funny that it works a parallel path of the rocker/celebrity DJ mash-up can't DJ "eclectic aesthethic".

I know stirmonster hates the term "eclectic", perhaps that connotation is why?

And not to get all DJ theory or whatever, but I'm not saying my eclecticism always has to-or wants to-flow so smoothly...jarring changes in style/tempo/volume, etc, can be great.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

west coast house was there 10 yrs ago w/ respect to sampling boogie records, post-punk and ESG.

What is this in reference to?

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

jeno + garth, mostly

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think i've always hated the term 'eclectic' as it seems to imply playing different styles of music just for the sake of it and yes, also because there is the implication that you can't actually dj and 'being able to dj' doesn't matter. another thing that really bugs me is the idea that mixing doesn't matter anymore. now don't get me wrong, some of my favourite djs don't mix but the idea that being able to mix is somehow now outdated is ridiculous.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Isn't there an issue of accessibility at play here, too? To win new audiences, doesn't the sound have to continue to diversify in ways that keep it fresh? I'm not saying a return to established forms is unlikely, but I do wonder what audience that is ultimately going to attract. It seems no accident to me that a label such as Get Physical, for example, releases tracks that seem tailor-made to fit within a variety of genres, whether it be house, disco, post-punk, etc.

No matter where you look, whether it be DJs in the small venues or super-clubs, everyone seems to be building complimentary genres into their pre-existing formulas. Look at the evolution of the Fabric series...

― Isamu, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Lots of otmness above. That "not mixing" thing bugs me massively too, basically I think late era Jockey Slut magazine was guilty of every single crime complained about so far on this thread! As far as I remember they even quoted you Twitch in some massively overstated "not mixing is great!" piece, except your quote was something like "only a minority of DJs who don't mix are good", and that was the gist of almost all the quotes they got.

I wasn't so much seeking purism as a rule, tho I guess I like Lindstrom/Reverso/Chacona/Stranger etc etc mainly for just being new and interesting ways to skin a cat. Listening to that Lindstrom at Our Disco mix it strikes me how raw some of this stuff sounds, it's really close to some of the early house tracks, that kind of faintly psychotic actual "acid" and tribal feel.

So often the stuff that constituted nu-disco that I'd hear would be really slickly produced and you just think you might as well listen to house.

I wasn't worried that this style would replace house etc, just sometimes the discourse surrounding new forms of DJ music always implies this. And that does an injustice to the new stuff too.

The eclectic thing is interesting cos I sort of hate the term too, in so far as what it means to the man on the street, and also its status as a sort of holy grail, I mean people love to say "I like all kinds of music".

That said Dan's points are totally reasonable, I do think it takes a certain type of DJ to play a real mix of stuff, also I find the fuller the club the more I tend to plough a similar furrow. I mean I think anyone who's DJed well knows you have to vary it even within say "house music all night long" or people drift, but sometimes it can be a weirdly conservative force, the dancefloor!

I'm not saying I ever play stuff I don't like, just certain venues tend to have a certain crowd, and I find myself playing to that.

Oh yeah and finally about "Eurodans", I think it's pretty cool tho not as fresh as some of his other stuff, it's very Metro Area, just with that sloppiness added. The B-side is probably more interesting if not as big a hit.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

Eurodans/Italian Stallion good tracks, but seem to me a bit more than just purist, they're almost parody (even if lovingly so)

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 19 January 2006 00:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

he he...

sorry, didn't mean to infuriate anyone as to the current state of house music. but that being said, yeah, i find it as annoying as
the current wave of polyester smooth jazz. of course i'm painting
with HUGE GIANT LARGE unrelenting brushes here, but it's just my opinion and nothing more... i guess my point was brought up by one
of the worst offenders in my book, kerri chandler... when he did that "raw" track... he even said himself... and music journalists do indeed overstate things as trends... it sells magazines and keeps
them employed. my mother loves "eurodans" thanks to that times piece on the next new new newiest...

also, i DO think mixing matters and it takes a certain charm in order to connect all the dots properly... again, there are many different approaches...most djs (professional) get a booking agent and get slapped with some type of journalist jargon and leave it at that... thats what makes for on the floor club shit so boring in my mind...i suppose i am indeed looking for new avenues for something i find "old hat"...but in my case more like "old hater."

btw/ how many of you are musicians ? i've been a drummer since i was a kid...i used to have a preference for instrumental/experimental music and now my appreciation is toward song form... maybe that evolution as a player(hater) has something to do with it...?

― dr. gato, Thursday, 19 January 2006 02:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

similar and yet contradictory to my stance on the current state of house music:

(i'm guilty of the following... so jump-in... i probably deserve it ... ;))

when it comes to AM GOLD, rupert holmes, or our imaginary band CHARDONNAY as well as christopher cross, loggins messina and the like the term is not YACHT ROCK... besides soulstrut.com came up with MARINA ROCK even before all that mess. My peoples records store crews here in detroit are calling all of you out by like five/six years... the journo-term is "DIVORCED DAD" music. learn it. love it. feel it. then replace it with the next thing...

but the sencerity test is like the scene from the film FLASH GORDON where he had to stick his arm in the creepy log, or THE NEVERENDING STORY (btw/ LIMAHL is also a style of music... possibly the next thing?) where he needed an open heart to pass through the gate... i'm serious about this michael mcdonald stuff. i grew up on a sailboat... no hating...

carry on...

― dr. gato, Thursday, 19 January 2006 03:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

The problem with DJs that describe themselves as 'eclectic' is that they never are. It's always some student that thinks playing a Primal Scream track and then a reggae track and then a Ninja Tune track and then "Ace of Spades" (always "Ace of Spades") is radical. There's usually a smugness to people who describe themselves as eclectic - like they're the only person that's noticed there's more than one type of music, like it might be a surprise to someone.

Keeping an open mind and having a large pool of things to play from can never be bad, even if it's a large pool of the same genre (like house.) I know that some people like it when it sounds like the DJ is playing the same record all night but I don't. Disco and house were built on playing non-disco and non-house records in a certain way that made them disco or house bcz there weren't any (or barely any) real disco or house records tat the beginning of those genres.

― Raw Patrick, at work, Thursday, 19 January 2006 11:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

um guys, they don't call it eclectic anymore., it's BALEARIC now!

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think i just have an allergy to words ending in 'IC'.

raw patrick's post has reinded me i haven't played 'ace of spades' out in waaaay too long. must remedy this.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Raw Patrick OTM - nothing new, if anything it's a return to form

That's why I had a hard time engaging with house in the 90s. It went from those 80s sets that would have disco and funk and new wave in them to DJs who would only spin deep or tribal or hard house sets, and nothing else. I don't even consider those niche sounds to be house.

I always thought house was "anything and everything you can dance to..."

but I guess I was wrong....

― jsoulja, Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

'house is a feeling....'

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

that's what I was getting at with:

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

So are you folks talking about the kind of stuff stir and Dan have on their mixes? And if so, is this just a style of DJing or a type of music that is being made now? Or is the suggestion that the two mutually reflect each other? Is the point that harvey, rub'n'tug, map of africa are making music that comes from the same sort of mindset as these dj sets?

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

the latter-est

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

It feels like house music was mostly worthless throughout the 90s and most of its producers extinct. When you read/post on ILM that is ! From Levanesque eclecticism to Kompaktesque cod-minimalism, with noodly uptempo dub (the subject of this thread being loosely included) and not much else in between, that's house ? Not only is it fragmentary at best but it's insulting. Chicago : what happened ? Um, auntie-visiting Derrick May told his Detroit peeps to come get the lesson of their lives, is what happened.

Also, during the last decade or so house has found a way to integrate previous instruments and their related technical/improvisational proficiency. The same can't be said for techno, recently grown out of aimless tribal banging and endlessy fascinated with the sound of it's own postIDM-twiddling Euro-kraut navel.

People here also keep mistaking house music with jazzish, 100-CD-changer-in-the-BMW type lounge drivel. Or forgetting that house, like techno or most music for that matter, has the usual 95% to 5% shit-to-good ratio (and then conveniently forgetting to discuss the top 5% altogether). Keep looking the other way folks
/rant

― Correctional.House.Dept (blunt), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey, maybe it's great, that's why above I say maybe I'm just looking for something other then what house has to offer. All I can say is when I listen to the "house" of the Hot Mix 5, it's great stuff, when I listen to the house music I heard over the last however many years, I get bored, but hey, that's just me. Feel free to share the good stuff here, or on other threads, but what is happening now is filling a void for many of us.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

I will keep doing so but I'm so ronery here ! Won't the lurking house masses come out of the webwork to my rescue ? wah wah /soapbox /whining

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

wait, is that supposed to be "ornery" or "ronanery"??? i'm guessing it's the former, but sort of wish it were the latterl :)

sorry i don't have much to contribute thus farly, but great thread, carry on... (though i must say, i don't get the fuss over map of africa's "black skin blue eyed boys," i'd much rather listen to the original. shit, i used to play it quite a bit, actually! before i went all euro-kraut navel-gazish, that is.)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

I thought he was doing a mopey "lonely"!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

off to celebrate Jamie Selzer's bday, btw phil.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 January 2006 22:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

hey hey, tell her happy birthday for me!

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also, during the last decade or so house has found a way to integrate previous instruments and their related technical/improvisational proficiency

Confused about wording here but if you're getting at what I think you're getting at could you supply some examples that aren't, say, "jazzish, 100-CD-changer-in-the-BMW type lounge drivel"?

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

Jeff Meyers, Metro Times:
"Where the film stumbles is with its characters. The Team America squad is a pretty boring bunch with little to no personality. Only super villain Kim Jong-il is fully realized, and he's little more than a Korean version of Cartman from South Park. Still, the shtick works and Kim's plaintive musical solo, "I'm Ronery," is one of the film's highlights."

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Jay Vee I won't argue with your perception of good vs bad jazz- or afro- or latin-influenced house. What do you think I'm getting at ?

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

and endlessy fascinated with the sound of it's own postIDM-twiddling Euro-kraut navel.
this is a typical example of me not knowing when to stop and blabbering offensively. Being vastly outnumbered I sort of apologize.

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

(xpost) Just confused as to what you meant by "previous instruments". Did you mean non-electronic (i.e. synths/samplers/drum machines): guitars, horns, acoustic instruments?

Also - wasn't looking for an argument. I know what I like as far as house that's influenced by the musics you mentioned. And I do like a lot of it.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yes

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love 90s house purism! Sometimes all you want is e.g. rough mid-nineties Chicago house all night long. I don't like these purism vs eclecticism debates very much b/c by making it so oppositional we inevitably miss what makes either approach work/not work.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah but wasn't purism an ingredient in the cauldron that poured out the big rave fizzle?

Not the main ingredient, but one of them. At least that's always been my understanding....

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

You could just as easily argue though that if purist DJs "killed" rave, than eclectic DJs are shovelling the dirt into its grave and then building a carpark on top.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

And when that carpark is empty because of skyrocketing gas price we can have a rave again.

― blunt (blunt), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

has anyone heard who made who?

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

Whomadewho are great! Or at least "Satisfaction" is. I can't remember if I've heard any of their other stuff.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

i can only speak from local experience but the purists definitely killed raving here. they sucked the life, fun and sex out of clubbing for several years. they certainly killed the club i used to do which was ironically called 'pure'. something HAD to change.

from a personal perspective, having been a house and techno dj for ten years, i had to do something else for my own sanity (which i very nearly lost in the rave years). i still love going out to the odd night of proper house music but when i am playing it, my attention tends to wander after about 45 minutes. but, i don't think there should be any debate about purism vs the dreaded 'e' word. there is no right or wrong way.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 20 January 2006 03:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have the Who Mad Who LP...good example of bands that even though they have enough material for a double album should put out a single! No really, I dig it, I first heard some of the singles and remixes on the Gomma site and still want them, the LP is occasionally the indie-rock club music you've been waiting for.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

"but, i don't think there should be any debate about purism vs the dreaded 'e' word. there is no right or wrong way. "

This is my point precisely.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I don't think there's a right or wrong way either.

I'm saying that at present, sets by the likes of Chicken Lips or Chromeo or Jacques Lu Cont are to me much more fresh and inspiring (and in many ways traditional) house than anything the likes of Danny Tenaglia or Frankie Bones ever did (when they were doing house).....

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

DANNY TENAGLIA DID ECLECTIC SETS TOO

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

I never heard a Steve Miller song in a Danny Tenaglia set, but who am I to say.....

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

OMG STEVE MILLER WAS HUGE @ ZANZIBAR

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

DANNY TENAGLIA REPS CAT STEVENS, IMAGINATION, HUGH MASAKELA, YELLO, ALDO HERNANDEZ, P&P RECORDS AND TONY COOK + THE PARTY PEOPLE

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

AND YOU THOUGHT ONLY DAN SELZER HAD GOOD TASTE

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Ha ha my big beef with early Chicken Lips albums was how purist they were! But yes their DJ sets are a different kettle of fish.

Don't make me link to my epic and lugubrious dissertation on p vs e on Dissensus!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

danny t's "classics" nights at be yourself were a hoot.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

I was speaking of their mixes- I've never seen them spin live (well, I did see Frankie Bones once). But I also haven't heard all of their releases. I had no idea Danny Tenaglia used that much range.

Anyone care to post some of his more ec***, er, diverse mix CDs?

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

AND YOU THOUGHT ONLY DAN SELZER HAD GOOD TASTE

if he thought that, he was right.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

Old timer here whose first "house club" experiences were going to Zanzibar ( or "Zanzibar's" as the kids called it) in Newark, NJ beginning in early '88. I can remember the sets being very Chicago/Detroit with the occasional disco nugget thrown in as the evening progressed. Not a lot of (if any) rock. I don't recall hearing sets that mixed house/techno with lots of other genres and I think that was probably due to the new stuff appearing at the time being so fresh and amazing that the dj's were just focusing on that. I must have missed it when the sets were more in the Paradise Garage vein.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

I doubt most of the people on this thread went to Zanzibar, but you know anyone can pick up a club culture history book and talk they did.....

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

i don't mean to paint tony humphries w/ the same brush as dj harvey but here's a great quote from the liner notes of a tony humphries comp i have:

"[tony humphries] also wasn't averse to kooky and playful selections at certain points in the evening. 'he would play peter brown's "do you wanna get funky w/ me' and brass construction's "we can do it",' recalls [new jersey dj quincy] vaughn. 'we called it "sleaze time", because he'd play all of these funk, down tempo sleazy records, like pat metheney's "are you going with me", "cocaine in the brain" by dillinger and talking head's "born under punches"."

and yes, like every other late-disco-into-house DJ apparently he played lots of b52s and liquid liquid alongside the talking heads ... at least up until there were enough 4x4 garage records to fill a 10 hour night ...

maybe not a harvey, but certainly he at least had his idjuts-esque moments. (i hear the idjuts are big fans!)

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think I missed prime-era Zanzibar. Humphries was at his peak a few years before I started going, I think. But he was always awesome when I did dance to his sets. DJ sets at the old Tunnel in NYC were super varied, I remember: freestyle + goth hits (Honk Kong Garden/Christine/The Walk) + "Rock to The Beat", for example.

(x post) Just responding to Vahid's statement that Steve Miller was huge at Zanzibar. I just didn't remember hearing his stuff or any rock the times I was there. Not that it's such a big deal in the end - just great memories - but I've been going out and clubbing in North Jersey/NYC for about 21 years now (I'm 37 this year) so, no, I wouldn't be pulling my experiences out of a book.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 20 January 2006 07:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think j was taking a shot at me ... he does that ...

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 January 2006 07:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's not terribly eclectic but I do love that first Tony Humphries Ministry of Sound Sessions mix - esp. the amazing first track!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 20 January 2006 07:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

XPOST

You know it's all for love...

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Friday, 20 January 2006 07:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

anyone hear this new lordy?

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

Whatever We Want is run by a guy by the name of Carlos. Here is a mix he did for beats in space along with quiet village http://www.beatsinspace.net/audio/2005/nov1/bis110105part1.mp3
http://www.beatsinspace.net/audio/2005/nov1/bis110105part2.mp3
He also talks about the label and such on the show.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Saturday, 21 January 2006 15:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah the Lordy is pretty cool.

There's a new white label on Feedelity, just called "Another Station", it's kind of erm........hands in the air piano eupohoria!

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

ok...captainjc mentioned that but wasn't sure...Carlos throws the No Ordinary Monkey parties in NY.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

Perhaps off topic, but since such luminaries are gathered here, I wanted to ask if anyone has heard/has opinions of $tinkworx (http://www.discogs.com/artist/$tinkworx). I discovered a bit back that he is local to me, and he is djing tonight at what is a tiny little sandwich shop/used book store by day. Opinions?

― matt2 (matt2), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Doesn't he run the Down Low label? I've heard good things about his music, though haven't heard it myself. Supposedly a big Italo geek and collector, too.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he does run Down Low. I went to their site (http://www.downlowmusic.org), and it all sounds quite nice to me, although there aren't many actual $tinkworx releases. As far as the Italo geek think, I believe he supposed to be big on that stuff.

― matt2 (matt2), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've decided to try trace the roots of this whole thing in a series of posts on my blog www.aythtok.blogspot.com , its gonna be pretty freeform and unspecific. I don't want Andre Bumrocks calling me a geek.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

being pedantic about the whole thing, I think "disco" is more appropriate then "house" in these contexts. And the weirdest thing is the disconnect between "italo-disco" and "cosmic". I think in the present day, a lot of people are informed by both, as they've both had revivals in the last few years, but at the time, the Cosmic pioneers claimed to not care for italo-disco...which may not be suprising because at the time the term italo-disco began being used, and Cosmic was at it's height, italo was at it's most pop and cheesiest phase.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Noted.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Get some MP3 interviews with Harvey (and Danny Krivit, Kirk Degiorgio, Hank Shocklee, Morgan Geist and more) from here...

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/PODCASTS.132.0.html

I prefer 'bearded house' to 'bearded disco' for some reason, even if it's not as right. People being into cosmic and Italo isn't that surprising, in the same way that a lot of people are into, say, 60s psych and Animated Egg type 60s psychsploitation now, whereas at the time the latter would have been totally uncool and even, maybe, a betrayal. Time erases tribal differences.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think house would be more apt a term for *now* - a lot of these guys were definitely playing house and techno before italo and this "cosmic" thing got its own thread on ilm. ;)

great site, thanks

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

part of me just wants to avoid new usage of old terms to mean new things, the way Electro used to mean breakdance and now means Depeche Mode.

From now on, we have to refer to the current sounds as:

Beardo Kosmiche Cosmicª

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

Are these RBMA/Odeo podcast links all dead ?

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

No, cuz I downloaded 'em about three hours ago (pressing on the MP3 button.) The site was a bit slow though.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

And I got the LArry Heard and Legowelt ones coming down now.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

I must be a bit thick or something

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

Eh? Have you got'em? Just click on the button that sez MP3 to the right of the picture. They're not really podcasts, just d/lable MP3s.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

It doesn't say mp3 anywhere on that page (as displayed by Firefox under Windows). All links go to different "odeo.com/show/123456/view" URLs which never respond.

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 23:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

Weird! The links respond for me on Firefox version 1.5. In fact, even if I type in your made up "odeo.com/show/123456/view" address I get an option to d/l an MP3 of "ZEPH CHATS HOW THE ABSTRACT GETS AT THE SOUL. WISDOM WICH PASSES AT THE SPIRIT, OLD, YOUNG, IT DOES NOT MATTER, ALWAYS BE EAGER AS A CHILD TO LEARN NEW THINGS"!

If you, or anyone else interested, still can't get 'em tomorrow leave a note here and I'll YSI 'em.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 23:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh I see then, it's one of those crack-in-the-fabric-of-the-universe things, I get that all the time.

― Zeph (blunt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 00:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dexterity, my co-blogger, just posted about how the whole 45 at 33 thing was also a phenomenon in South Africa in the nineties. Interesting read. More of this to come. www.aythtok.blogspot.com

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 09:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

Tangentially relevant...

Cabaret is a new monthly party on the last Saturday of every month at Capone's. Featuring disco classico y obscura, tape edits, video loops, and unreleased goodies. Dress to sweat! With dj sets by Escort each month and a rotating cast of very special monthly guests. FREE!

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

the whole 45 at 33 thing

this reminded me of seeing d@n h0ugland play the first track of Pavement's Watery Domestic at 33 (it was really good) and got me thinking, do excepter fit into this? i've only seen them once and never heard the records but they do some house beats, right?
maybe more since porkchop joined?

― duke fan, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

haven't seen them in a while but I figured Nathan did more of the drum programming. He's in the band right? And I know he's got an MPC or something. But I guess it's a third about how dancey they want to get, a third about hot its marketed/sold/perceived i.e., to what degree is it on the radar of more conventional unconventional "dance" djs, and finally, how far are those DJs willing to go? The easy solution would be to get some hipster producer to remix a track, that's like the key that unlocks the door, that says "hey DJs, you can play Excepter because like, DFA remixed it!"

what do you think, excepter?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

ps - how much do you figure DFA charges for a remix? Lindstrom?

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey Duke Fan -

I think D@n H0ugl@nd needs to DJ more often. I've never heard the m@n play anything less than a killer set.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

lindstrom only accept payment in meatballs. last i heard they were asking for around 2000.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

That converts to 8200 quid in UK money! Fuck!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh you guys

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Perhaps this, too, should be it's own thread and maybe there is one but I couldn't find it. But is there a remotely definitive Italo Disco collection on cd? It looks like ZYX puts out about 20 of them a year, but is there at least a good, perhaps multi-disc, place to start?

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

there's definately been threads, but the easiest way to start is by downloading Mixed Up At the Hague from:

http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net/home/?page=mixage1

and listen to the Cybernetic radio station.

2 good and hip italo comps are Environ's Unclassics, and Irma's I-Robots.

The ZYX stuff is expansive and covers italo from the viewpoint of the eastern-european italo fans, who tend to like stuff a lot cheesier then most of us.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

just to say I really like the campfire mixcd, and for me the "errors" in the mix makes the charm of the cd and it goes well with the random sounds and the spaced out selection, great mix....

so I dunno if I missed it, but that aNYthing mixcd thing was finally posted ?

would love to hear it.

thanks

― myninecanpiss, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Dan. I've got Unclassics and really enjoy it. Discogs tells me that I-Robots is largely instrumental, which is disappointing cause I like the very special vocals. I'm tempted to give one of those ZYX collections a whirl just to see, but I have no clue where to start. I loved the Pineapples and M&G tracks from this post on the fourfour blog. Any others in that general realm you would recommend?

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

mixed up in the hague is prob the best - actually you should go on slsk and search "italo". I know there are several people (including me) sharing folders full of stuff

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

so I dunno if I missed it, but that aNYthing mixcd thing was finally posted ?

Nah, it never showed. I'd love to hear it.

I've got a review of that Campfire mix going up on Stylus, err, whenever they put it up.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, found the thread I shoulda been posting on here: Italo Disco RFI

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

go grab Amadeo - Memories over at Bumrocks ....

― Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Renard.

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

if you can find that italo de ruggerio mix, I think fezaffe linked it. I almost prefer it to any of the more well known mixes. if not I can YSI.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

the best vocal italo stuff hasn't really been comped, because the compies so far have been coming from a techno/electro background, and for some CRAZY reason, prefer the instrumentals (whether it's I-Robots feat. Dharma's instrumental, or the bootleg w/ Amin Peck minus vocals). There's plenty online, and just search italo there's been a bunch of threads where people, myself included, have listed our favorite songs, most of which are on soulseek, often ripped from one of those I Love Disco Diamonds or ZYX comps. Rich's post was great and I'd never heard some of the stuff he was sharing.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

The lack of vocals on "Dirty Talk" is probably Mixed Up @ the Hague's solitary flaw.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

the flipside being that he used, albeit briefly, the vocal of Sun-La-Shan's Catch, while I-Robots uses the dub. I'm still looking if anyone even has an mp3 of the vocal version of Catch. Maybe I'll find the 12"...maybe.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

The lack of vocals on "Dirty Talk" is probably Mixed Up @ the Hague's solitary flaw.

i thought i knew the song until i heard the vocal version. makes it 100x better.

― brokeback titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

first of all, let me say i am VERY disappointed w/ my thread. WTF people? take yr italo-discussion to the italo-thread!

second, what's up with the "mixing / not mixing" red herring? the rub + tug mix, harvey's mixes, glimmer twins mixes - all perfectly beatmatched. ok rub+tug are a bit sloppy w/ the feedback. so what? so are plenty of other (non beardo) sound systems.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

Last post on this here vahid, I promise from the bottom of my heart.

What is this "italo de ruggerio mix" Ronan? I'd definitely be interested. And I am definitely enjoying the Hague mix.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

ARRRRGGGGGHHH

ok, let me try to distract y'all from italo by bringing up a couple of issues that will have some people frothing

is beardo the new big beat? is beardo indebted to big beat? i was listening to cut la roc's FSUK4 and i'm thinking - very beardo! lip service to rap, heavy funk+disco influence, lots of hip-hop cut-up influence.

second, where do electronic acts w/ strong rock influences fit in? greenskeepers? trabant? twinnie? captain comatose? seems sort of unfair to ignore these guys just because they don't use live drums / perc.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

beardo and big beat both love the classic rock? The difference being, which classic rock?

Alec D., music director of APT, made 2 volumes of italo mixes. Gomma hosted them for a while and I'm sure they're all over soulseek. Other Music sold them as well. I got mine as a gift from Italo himself.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

that latter part being the response to "What is this "italo de ruggerio mix""

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

The new big beat....sheeeyid, I hope not. It'll end in tears. I reckon prog would have a definite connection here. Interesting how it was also connected to the ambient scene in the early nineties, System 7 and all that stuff. Also Fleetwood Mac being used on chill out by KLF. Lucious did a mix for Market Frenzy that was all prog, would highly reccomend it. Then there's the new track on bumrocks, a Grateful Dead edit, done by the chap at Market Frenzy apparently.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

Here's the Rub 'n' Tug mix cd:

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08H87IPDG7BZK1PKGD8GLEF3WR

At 128kbps to cut down on the file size a bit. Sorry it took so long, the CD was squirreled away in a closet for some reason. Let me know if the YSI link expires and I'll re-up it.

― telephone thing, Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

To my surprise, I like the Grateful Dead track on bumrocks, and I have never like them.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 29 January 2006 10:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

Okay, so it looks like there will be a collection of some of his previously 12" only tracks coming out. I only found out about it from the Kompakt mp3 store but it's gonna be Playhouse CD017 it appears. No clue as to a release date (here in the US anyway). So, here is the tracklist. Anyone with knowledge of any of these, please let us know your feelings on good choices, glaring omissions, etc. I only have the two full-lengths.

01 BLEU [05:28]
02 INITIATE II [06:04]
03 ROCKERS [05:35]
04 MONITOR [06:24]
05 SURFERS [06:27]
06 SIMONE RIDES [06:12]
07 KING OFF [05:35]
08 CITE GRANDE TERRE [04:01]
09 POISSON MORT [01:16]
10 I OWE YOU (RMX) [04:37]
11 LOST [09:30]
12 BEAU MOT PLAGE (FREEFORM REFORM PT.1&2) [10:34]

― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

SUNUVABITCH, sorry folks. Wrong thread, clearly. Never compose a post in email (hiding at work, you know) and just post it in the ILM tab you have up before checking to make sure it is, in fact, the ISOLEE thread. So, so sorry. But since we're at it, the correct post it over here (Isolee) if any of you all have anything to say. Sorry again for hijacking your thread vahid (although inadvertantly this time).

― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

harvey killed it at the bar i do my night at this past saturday night! the most crowded i've ever seen it, to... maybe 200 people in a bar with a absolutely maximum capacity of 125 going nuts all night long. it was a pleasure to see so many people having so much fun to a lot of the songs and artists mentioned all over this thread.

i told him that i had listened to those interviews he gave on the red bull music academy site and he said, "that's great!... and... weird." he also once (6 or so months ago) gave me my favorite response ever when i had asked what record he was playing, "hey, this is great! what is it?" "I don't fucking care!" and then he laughed maniacally. i was a little hurt at first but then i realized that he probably actually didn't care what it was and was telling me that i maybe shouldn't either.

o, monday morning.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah Jacobs, I know how you feel. The Steve Miller is also really good.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

telephone thing I would love you (even more than I already do obv.) if you could re-up the Rub'n'Tug. (And thanks for putting it there in the 1st place.)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

uh ... how about a hi-res reup?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

Vahid: how high?

― telephone thing, Monday, 30 January 2006 21:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

256 VBR?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

Or as a .wav?

(Joke! I'm looking forward to hearing this!)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

i got the Rub n' Tug mix the first time... but i missed where its from... any info/ tracklist?

― grady, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 07:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think I like Campfire more in theory than in practice :-(

The Flash & The Pan track is amazing though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 09:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

I like it in practice more then theory!

I always thought that Flash and the Pan were boogie rock. Since they're AC/DC related I should have known that they were a disco band as well.

(Repost the mix and I'll give you some info! I really wanna hear it so am blackmailing you.)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

i got the Rub n' Tug mix the first time... but i missed where its from... any info/ tracklist?

It didn't come with a tracklist, sorry- the disc is a promo for aNYthing (http://www.anewyorkthing.com/) simply called "Rub 'n' Tug volume 1." There's almost no info at all on the packaging. I got it at Turntable Lab a couple of months ago, they might still have copies.

― telephone thing, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also re-upping the mix right now as high-bitrate VBR- YSI takes a hell of a long time.

― telephone thing, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

the part on there that's like acid house with rapping over it is nuts .... I'm assuming that's an acappella layered over something else? anyone know? comes in at about the 12 min mark.

love the music on the mix but put me in the "all the mistakes are annoying" camp

― Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

"love the music on the mix but put me in the "all the mistakes are annoying" camp."

Love most of the music, but put me in the "I think a Doors song ruins any mix" camp.

― grady, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 17:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

renard - dj cole medina aka house arrest - "buffalo bill"

http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=KSD-169&Category_Code=Kajmere

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

thanks vahid!

so to those who've heard both .... is the aNYthing mix better / worse than the one on Eskimo?

― Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

the aNYthing mix is more contemporary, and more smoothly-mixed. campfire is more revelatory - i'd only heard like two of the tracks before, as opposed to about 90% of the aNYthing mix.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Have y'all checked out Eric Duncan's (rub 'n tug) mix on beats in space?

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm used to not having heard most of the stuff on DJ mixes so maybe the whole cratedigging aspect of Campfire is lost on me. The mixing does annoy me too (esp. the sudden drops and rises in volume, which isn't just annoying but potentially painful!). It is fun, but I just feel like I'd reach for a Glimmers mix or even one of those A Touch of Class online mixes more readily.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

can anyone up the harvey sarcastic mix?

― grady, Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

give me a day or two ... in the meantime you can listen to it at the sarcastic website

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 5 February 2006 04:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

beardo - bill withers, WAR, funkadelic, the temptations
not beardo - james brown, isaac hayes, curtis mayfield, marvin gaye, roy ayers, stevie wonder

beardo - led zeppelin, santana, late-era who, jimi hendrix
not beardo - early-era who, the animals, the kinks, velvet underground

beardo - roxanne shante
not beardo - salt'n'pepa

beardo - bohannon
not beardo - chic

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

has everybody seen this long piece on Daniele Baldelli and the beginnings of cosmic disco?

http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue3/baldelli

― theghostrobot (theghostrobot), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

grazie

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 5 February 2006 14:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

new beardo-friendly NYC party alert:

Dazzle Ships
Jeremy Cambpell, Dan Selzer, Scott Zacharius
Monday 2/6
at Heathers, 506 e 13th st, near Ave A
starting at 8 o'clock
2 drinks for 1 till 9
2 dollar Tecate beer till 10.
bartending by the Drunken Sailor.

This is a one-off trial run, will hopefully do it more often. Small, nice bar, shitty sound, friendly like-minded bartender, early evening adventures in neo-Cosmic, pitch adjust abusing mood-setting. Slow disco, weird new wave, drunken ideas.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 6 February 2006 04:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

i wish somebody in SF was doing a night like that.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 6 February 2006 05:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

that sounds great, dan!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 February 2006 06:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

xpost, i know of a night that almost fits the bill. it's more disco than cosmic though moroder and his ilk get their dues.

beardo - roxanne shante
not beardo - salt'n'pepa

interesting...i pasted and italicized this fragment of your post because at first i was going to ask you to explain, but i think i get it now. both artists seem tangential to the conversation here at least, but there really is a world of difference between the two.

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Monday, 6 February 2006 06:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for that link theghostrobot. Enlightening.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 6 February 2006 14:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://pitchforkmedia.com/features/weekly/06-02-06-space-disco.shtml

dom's mentioned thread is here.

Some nice stuff...but a bit confusing. These things already existed...Space Disco is a term that's been used since the 70s. And as I mention above, Cosmic is it's own thing, a specific scene and aesthethic, that claimed to be very anti-Italo disco. You mention cosmic disco, but not Cosmic. Dominique...are you presenting this suggesting that Space Disco is an umbrella terms for all these thing, or has it already entered the lexicon?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

pwned

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dan, you give me too much credit. I regretted not writing about Cosmic (and still do to an extent); my space disco is an umbrella term for things I see happening now (some of which recall things in 80s Italy), but not necessarily for anything that happened years ago. At the time I wrote it, I didn't include Cosmic because I decided a paradigm in the mid-80s was less important than just writing about the sound of the music now (and it seemed like the whole thing was starting to be me throwing in genre names all over the place).

so yes, it's confusing

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure it seems like I'm splitting hairs, but as a person who's used the term Space Disco for many years to mean a specific thing...you know. I mean, obv. most of what you discuss would fall under an umbrella term of Space Disco, but this wider, "beardo" aesthethic, that would include something like the idjits or whomever's bootlegging of TIna Turna doing Whole Lotta Love, or really the whole rock influence that we've discussed here...say Shakedown Street by the Dead or Disco Not Disco stuff, all very "beardo" but not Space Disco.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah - for the record, I'm pitching to add info about Cosmic to the piece now, so never let it be said that democracy doesn't work. as for beardo stuff, I tried to only list stuff in the primer that was space disco-y sounding (to my ears anyway), so hopefully people will get the idea if they seek out

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

don't know if you've seen this...but one of the last Alldisco parties was for halloween, where we chose "space" as our theme. It was interpreted liberally at points, strictly at others:

http://alldisco.net/playlistsaudio.shtml

here's what I played that night:

giorgio moroder - battlestar galactica
quartz - quartz
space project - conquest of the stars
cerrone - tripping on the moon
die doraus und die marinas - fred vom jupiter

erotic drum band - pop pop shoo wah
lipps inc. - funkytown
koto - japanese war games
man parrish - heatstroke
patrick cowley - get a little

casco - cybernetic love
cyber people - void vision
the parallax corporation - crocodiles in the sky
lime - angel eyes

duran duran - planet earth
telex - moskow diskow
vivien vee - remember
slick - space bass
lindstrom - i feel space
mr. flagio - take a chance
i-f - space invaders are smoking grass
gary numan - cars
jonzun crew - pack jam

tantra - hills of katmandu
x-ray connection - get ready (special freak mix)
kebekelektrik - magic fly
sylvester - stars
pluton and the humanoids - world invaders

model 500 - no ufo's
fingers inc. - distant planet
a guy called gerald - voodoo ray
isolee - my hi-matic

byrds - mr. spaceman

but check out the full list, the other djs are ok also.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 6 February 2006 20:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dominique-

Nice article. Pointed me towards some stuff I didn't know about, made me re-think some stuff I already had, and reminded me about some stuff i've been meaning to pick up.

I just dropped way two much on the new Quiet Village and Otterman Empire. I guess its drop way too much now or WAY WAY WAY too much a year or two down the road. Anyone know where I can find the 1st Quiet Village? Is it a lost cause?

― grady, Monday, 6 February 2006 20:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

-- Dominique (d_leon...), February 6th, 2006.

I'm going to go out on a wild limb here (not at all really) and suggest that maybe it's confusing because you are, in fact, confused about it yourself, because you basically mined this whole idea from Dan (who first pointed this out) and Vahid (who further developed the idea on this thread) and that's really lame, and definitely unethical.

Yes, the idea of beardo house is not something exclusively owned by anyone, as those individuals inclined to pay close attention to trends emerging in more general music genres will note new patterns all on their own, but your title shift from beardo house to "Space Disco" makes your alleged reporting highly suspect, because Space Disco is actually a term that has been used long before Lindstrom's day, and though posters on ILM can hardly make a claim to intellectual property rights, the fact is that you actually get paid for your articles (amount is irrelevant), so the fact that you published this work without at least offering to cite your sources seems both unfortunate and plagaristic.

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 19:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

actually, pitchfork asked me to write this before xmas, so I'd been collecting data since then. I will give Dan (and this thread) credit tho - lots of great ideas and info here. I was definitely inpsired to write more about "what came before" as a result of some of the links posted here. "space disco" is what I posted on the pfork staff board in october when I talked about this music, so I just kept it for the piece

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Fair enough I suppose.

ILM is a unique lab among the "for fun" internet forums, because while there's no doubt pretty much everyone on here is doing so for the love, it still none-the-less offers a goldmine of information from some highly credible sources (some known in larger circles as writers or musicians, some unknown but still brilliant writer/theorists in terms of music) and it would probably be a better idea for the writers on here to give credit where/when it's due.

― Giles Manius (jsoulja), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

note to self: never write about dance music again

(note to Dan: I make fun of "beardo house" in pending L&PT review)

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

my only qualm was with conflating of terms. When you wrote above that you were writing about cosmic disco, I got the sense you were talking about cosmic disco=space disco, i.e. Cerrone or this Conquest of the Stars record I have, and I wasn't sure you were aware of this other thing called "Cosmic" that the dance dorks have been talking about for the last few years, which certainly crosses over, but has a decidedly different aesthethic. But like, what can I expect from a music writer who doesn't like Sonic Youth? Seriously man, I'd trade my entire dance music collection to be able to listen to Expressway to Yr. Skull forever and ever.

(note...just referencing an old debate/discussion for good fun...)

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

there's one thing I didn't get from a Dan: a Sonic Youth mix

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

paid writers mining for ideas/info is the reason ILX exists, anyway. and dominique gets mad pts for digging up a bunch of stuff that wasn't mentioned on ILX at all, like ilya santana and releases on tirk + moodmusic ... my quibbles w/ the piece basically boil down to 1) i don't think viewlexx et al are on the same wavelength and 2) i wonder since maurice fulton clearly IS part of the freak-disco continuum, does the rest of the nuphonic stable make the cut?? (see fuzz against junk's insane cover of "born under punches", yellow sox (rocky + diesel) doing "flim flam", the arthur russell undercurrents of acts like fug and adam goldstone) ... actually, come to think of it, tirk is a sublabel of nuphonic!!

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

I posted the mix I posted about way upthread to the group blog just now, sound quality isn't the best, there's some nasty shit going on during the Greenman track for some reason, old minidisc maybe, but it's a nice little mix.

http://beatresearch.blogspot.com/

x-post I agree about viewlexx btw

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

let me make sure i have this right

space disco = super dramatic italo about spaceships and shit
cosmic = "kozmische" music

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

nuphonic went bust. tirk is a completely new label run by a former nuphonicer.

dan, if i do you a ten hour edit of 'expressway to yr skull' can i have yr disco collection?

space disco = super dramatic italo about spaceships and shit

except it doesn't have to be italo.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

sorry, if I do YOU an edit.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

cosmic "kozmishe"

although Cosmic includes kozmische. Check out any of the threads on djhistory or the Daniel Baldelli interviews.

space disco = pre-dates italo and was a major influence on italo. Most early italo is space disco (i.e., Tarzan Boy is NOT!) but not all space disco is italo!

The thing about viewlexx is they come from a more strict techno/electro background. Their italo-revitalizing I think certainly opened some of these doors, I think. But by now, it's all golden, I-F's tastes certainly seem broad. But most of the Creme/Viewlexx etc stuff is pretty electro.

The joke is, stir, I don't need a ten hour edit of Expressway because I have Evol on vinyl and it ends on a glorious lock groove! Shame on the CD for including the cover of bubblegum at the end instead of just letting the song skip for the rest of the CD.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

ok "cosmic" has got me more confused than not. ridiculously eclectic, pitched-down afro space reggae disco?

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

with new wave at the wrong speed and you've got it.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

they probably played lots of grace jones, no?

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

probably. check out some of the cosmic mixes and links posted above. The DJ Loda ones that Gomma hosted were great, and tutu is awesome.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

i need to buy 'evol' again as i tghink i fell asleep one time too many with it on the turntable and have worn out that lock groove.

i'm not a big fan of viewlexx but that i.f. presents the conservatives 12" is mega space disco.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

my fave as mentioned above is the italo sounding version of Crocodiles in the Sky, not the one that's on the Paralax Corp CD w/ female vocals, but the male vocal one that is super beautiful.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hearing Scritti Politti played slooow at Dan/Jeremy's party last night was illuminating.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

I really enjoyed Dominique's piece. I've found myself really enjoying Lindstrom and Prins Thomas, so it's nice to see someone point out some similar sounds.

It's pretty daunting to dissect the different genres and sub-genres that exist in the electronic and dance music spheres. It's a blotchy, confusing asterism.

Thanks to Dan and Dom for drawing some connections.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

type in "beardo" on google and hit "i'm feeling lucky and see what happens.

then try the same but type "beardo house" instead.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 9 February 2006 18:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oi Vahid, is the Adam Goldstone album from a few years back any good do you know? I've loved Tiny Trendies' "Sky Is Not Crying" ever since I heard it on the Playgroup DJ-Kicks mix but only recently found out it was Adam Goldstone behind it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm not Vahid but I think it's mighty good.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

this page is mind-boggling
ihttp://www.beardo.com/b3ta/beardob3ta.htm

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

― lf (lfam), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

"'They told me to do something with ostriches,' claims designer."

I'm never smoking pot again.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's a pretty strong indictment.

― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

I really like almost everything talked about in this thread but I have no idea what to say about it. Maybe I need to hear it in a club first.

― fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Thursday, 16 February 2006 04:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

this is as good a place as any:

http://www.noordinarymonkey.com/

"suprises galore"

did someone say Harvey?

Caravan from Optimo at Night Time at Don Hills...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 16 February 2006 05:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

Harvey tonight at Cielo

before, Dazzle Ships, same details as posted above.

Beardo/simply unshaven FAP

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 20 February 2006 21:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

keeping the beardo spirit alive:

http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue7/cosmic/document_view

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 02:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Baldelli just released an album called "Cosmic Sound" but thats probably ot because a) its wall-to-wall tribal drumming and b) Baldelli has no beard

― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 02:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

also the Rekid debut album is due April 7th!! (Rekid = Matt Edwards = Radioslave = 1/2 of Quiet Village)

― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 02:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

web.tiscali.it looks amazing

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 05:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue3/baldelli

has this ben posted up yet?

― theghostrobot (theghostrobot), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

above, ben=been

anybody else think that shit robot's 'triumph' sounds pretty cosmic?

― theghostrobot (theghostrobot), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh my god does anybody have any leads on these mixtapes?

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 07:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

there's some way to get them, I know Doug Lee downloaded dozens (hundreds?). But for a taster check the ones on the Gomma site.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 14:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

rub n tug have SO bitten the idea for their logo from this thread:

― armalite roffle (haitch), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 14:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, riolb n tög, excellent

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Rub-n-Tug used that way before this thread, I seem to remember a flyer or email from a year or two ago with the beards.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

So how was that Rekid ep on Soul Jazz? I never heard it.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

my friend (lf) just found out that all you have to do is ask.

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 19:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

baldelli/cosmic track id question here: track id - acid from 1981 or earlier, sounds like the knife

― lf (lfam), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

the rekid ep was hot

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

the dj sets at lexx music look promising.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Dazzle Ships featuring Bumrocks.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

dude, what is up with the dancing bananas on that flyer?!

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

They're stoked and on E?

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

jeremy made the flyer. I don't even like bananas.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

banana house is the sound of summer '06!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

do those dudes also run dreamchimney?

― query, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

nice OMD reference, but the picture of an ACTUAL dazzle ship on the flyer is even better.

more here:
http://www.gotouring.com/razzledazzle/articles/dazzle3.html

― meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

maybe dan will play some mellow yello records.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

― meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

there was a website that had those dancing bananas synced up w/ alter ego's "rocker". during the chorus the did sort of headbanging type stuff.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

peanut butter jelly time! hold the beard please.

― biz, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

consider it an ode to dream chimney.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

from http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/index.php?url=http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/ver2/genreWeekly.php&whichWeek=0&genre=24

"If you've caught a set by Manchester's own Moonboots lately, chances are you'll have heard a strung-out West Coast surf tune that sounds like the Beach Boys (vocal harmonies crooning about California) crossed with Ray Manzarek (psychedelic keyboards) over a wicked backbeat. Well it would have been this, the first release from High Feelings, Sweden's answer to Whatever We Want. "Leave Norway" is actually an extended re-edit of "Go To California" by Norwegian rockers Motorpsycho and if isn't the most listened to 12" on my Technics here at Piccadilly Records then I don't know what is. "Abf Woman" is another rock re-edit, the heavy rock blues interpolation of "Get Out Of My Life Woman" by (we think) Iron Butterfly."

― lf (lfam), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

so i know that it isn't disco, but neither is map of africa. 'leaving norway' is great for spring and midwestern sunshine, just as all the trees are starting to bud!

ps - can a mod delete that link?

― lf (lfam), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

correction: 'leave norway'

― lf (lfam), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

The original LP versh of Go To California is v. nice as well.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Isn't that just a motorpsycho track re-edit from the 90's?

― Saheer Umar (saheer), Friday, 28 April 2006 14:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

Rub N Tug, Saturday night, Fabric Room 3.

― rchinn (rchinn), Friday, 28 April 2006 14:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

we're doing Dazzle Ships this wed, same info as above, but wed, not monday.

our guest dj is our friend Joshua, a consummate collector of obscure faux-jazzy post-punk funk 7"s and slick and soulfull 80s 12"s.

don't know what I'm gonna bring. Propaganda. The Doors. I dunno.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 04:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

anybody have any pictures of thomas and eric (rub & tug)? i'm making a flyer, and i'd hoped to find those pictures on a ship from the eskimo site, but they're redesigning it right now. any other pictures might suffice. how can these guys seem so ubiquitous sometimes, and yet be so invisible?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

these are all stolen from the only blog worth reading: http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp

obviously the guy who took them has copyright so you prob can't use them for your flyer but i thought maybe people want to see what they look like??

four shots of eric rub'n'tug (first is with dash snow)

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/la.fiends.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/hands.up.dunks.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/dunksagain.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/fragilerocks.jpg

here's two of thomas rub'n'tug (dj'ing in a $150 visvim t-shirt)

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/IMG_1551.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/thomas.jpg

L-R: thomas, eric

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/rubntug1.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/rubntug2.jpg

publicity shot

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/rubntug.gif

― DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

thanks so much, vahid! i wrote a-ron to ask permission. though to be honest i probably wouldn't have even thought to do that if you hadn't mentioned it. right thing though, i guess.

i can't remember if you're in LA or SF... if you're in LA you should consider driving down to OC (costa mesa, specifically) on may 26th to see them, and well, if you're in SF they'll be up there the next day, so...

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

Goat Dance 12" on Bear is the hotness

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

my friend picked that up last weekend. i wasn't sure if it was supposed to be played at 45 or 33 the first time i listened to it.

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

it is. i saw optimo play that 12" when i was in glasgow two weekends ago!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

I like to read the last two posts as:

i wasn't sure if it was supposed to be played at 45 or 33 the first time i listened to it.

it is.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 02:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

ha!

this is how much of a nerd i am--i even took a picture of the record while it was spinning because i thought the name "goat dance" was funny:

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

Dominique, did you get my email, or did it go to yr junk mail again?

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

and where the hell is vahid. i sent you an email too.

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

I got nothing, so maybe filtered to junk? probably you need to remove the "dragon.penis.viagra" from the subject field

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

send me an email first. i've got some really great cures for your saggy penis.

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

I am unaccustomed to this kind of talk, so i will send you an email with bad things

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

alrighty, ironically yours got sent to my junk folder. but i sent you a new email. BE ON THE LOOKOUT!

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 18 May 2006 18:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

REPORT SPAM
DELETE FOREVER

― and there are lot's of other sites, but all of them are fake... (sanskrit), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

ha! good photo geeta. i didn't notice you taking that.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

i'm mysterious like that.

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 18 May 2006 20:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

i recieved two records in the mail yesterday, one from NYC, one from the UK. both great collections of re-edits and both with gorgeous cover-art.... but look what happens when you put them one on top of the other:

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Did you get the Betty Botox record in NYC? I've been looking for a US source for that for months...

Oh, and the above offer for the Rub 'n Tug mixtape stands, as I've finally found it. Since ye olde Why Ess Eye is now forbidden, feel free to send me gmail requests or non-gmail requests for Rapidshare or suchlike. It's a single contiguous track at 192 kbps mp3.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 02:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.gunclub.dj/

I will be there.

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 03:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

hmmm ... i got yr email btw, but i was moving last week ... i'll get on it ...

― FLOWING STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVAL SCROLL (vahid), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 05:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

email me. i've gotten a few things.

u coming to this?

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 05:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

while it's being mentioned, i feel that for whichever lurkers seem to be into this stuff, there's this in our area:

please come! and to be honest, presale would not be a bad idea!

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

just realized that doesn't say it, but that's:

820 W. 19th St.
Costa Mesa, CA 92627

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 10:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Did you get the Betty Botox record in NYC? I've been looking for a US source for that for months...

i got it on import at Halcyon but it was the only copy they had. might want to call around to them or TTL?

some fine Can and Sister Sledge edits on it, cant think of the others my brain doesnt function until i've had all my coffee. Many of the tracks on G4 Faggot were previewed by a friend of Betty's on those old YSI threads. nice one!

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

juno have stock if you wanna do the mailorder thing.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thanks LMW- I'll keep checking around for a copy in the US, but juno have come through for me before so it's glad to see they have it. Pity a CD/digital release isn't likely for the, er, obvious reasons.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh! And: unless I'm wrong, it's not really a typo and there really is some DJ/group I've never heard of called "Rug n Tug," Rub 'n Tug are mixing a Fabric disc soon, after Evil Nine, Tiefschwarz, and Cut Copy, in that order.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

a friend of Betty's

a close one!

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

is that like friend of Dorthy?

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

i got it from piccadillyrecords.co.uk.

just moved to hawaii so it literally came from the other side of the world.

the supreme edits came from turntablelab.com.

after previewing a few of those edits myself, (and especially flipping for "i'm an indian three") i jumped at the opportunity to have them on vinyl. nice work, betty- my favorite release to date!

― grady (grady), Thursday, 25 May 2006 01:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

it would've been funny if the first track was called 'flying riddim'.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 25 May 2006 02:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

anyone heard this idjuts/rune lindbaek thing?

― Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 27 May 2006 23:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am love love loving this stuff. even if i can barely find any of it.

― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Quiet Village Project and DJ Zeus (Joel Martin) both have myspace pages now, with music.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

And the Quiet Village remix of Cosmo Vitelli is spectacular.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

I heard this excellent RnT re-edit of Chicago's "I'm a Man" the other night and saw some hipster hippies dancing to it and now I understand the title of this thread.

― i'm from hollywood, Monday, 29 May 2006 18:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if 25 Or 6 To 4 would work as an edit? Maybe slowed down a tad?

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Warm Up 2006

Aug 12
Rub-N-Tug (Eskimo, aNYthing)
Escort “live” (NYC)

Aug 19
Mathew Johnson “live” (Wagon Repair, Vancouver B.C.)
Beppe Loda (Afro-Cosmic, Italy)
Lee Douglas (Rong Music)
Jeremy Campbell (Tropical Computer System)

― los angeles, Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

new Padded Cell 12-inch pretty good, if not shocking

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

not as good as 'signal failure' then? i LOOOOVE that.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 1 June 2006 02:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not for me anyway - I also loved Signal Failure, a lot because of that "hand jive" sample, but the new tracks are more of a live band feel, DFA-ish or Joakim-ish.

In other news, not exactly "beardo", but "Sunday" by A Made Up Sound is pretty cool, chill-out jazz-house

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

dominique you need to share some of this stuff with me, plz

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

after work i can start up the bluebird

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

are you talking about the "theme from friday the 13th" padded cell or the "are you anywhere" padded cell? ive obly heard the "are you anywhere" stuff on their myspace, but both are great.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 1 June 2006 20:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

A Made-Up Sound, you say? I want in-- is it on s1sk yet?

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 June 2006 21:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

When I initially heard 'Theme from Friday the 13th' from Padded Cell and I was a little 'eh' about it. I'll give it another spin.

― Saheer Umar (saheer), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Soft Rocks mix is luverly

couple more here that i haven't listened to yet (and don't have tracklistings like one above)
http://www.purepleasuremusic.com/mixes/

― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 04:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

For those that are interested you can still listen to the Harvey Sarcastic Mix here http://www.sarcasticclothing.com/cult.html#

It's great. Someone's also just put out a bootleg comp of some of the tracks on it, which rather spoils the mystique, but is very handy.

Thanks for this thread, by the way - loads of ace stuff I'd never have heard of otherwise.

I don't know if these fit the bill or not, but some lovely eclectic mixes here http://dr.lloyd.free.fr/mixes.htm (which woebot pointed me in the direction of).

Ta ra.

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 09:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Sunday" by A Made Up Sound is pretty cool, chill-out jazz-house

Just got the 12" and am soooo into it right now. All because of your recommendation, yeeahhh.

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 2 July 2006 20:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

MAURICE FULTON PODCAST ON ITUNES Y'ALL

― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 05:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

yesssssss

― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 06:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Rub N Tug - Better With A Spoonful of Leather [aNYthing Mix volume 2] !!!

― pher (pher), Sunday, 9 July 2006 18:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

intriguing, tell us more pls.

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Sunday, 9 July 2006 19:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

Just picked it up at Kim's on friday....will give it a proper listen and report back....

― pher (pher), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

the maurice fulton podcast on itunes is good stuff. there's also this: http://bubbleteasem.blogspot.com/

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 9 July 2006 23:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

goddamnit I have the new rub n tug and yet I have nothing to listen to it with at work!

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Friday, 28 July 2006 00:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

LISTEN TO IT WITH YOUR EARS, MAN!

― Mike Hooter (jaxon), Friday, 28 July 2006 04:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

you know, i was hoping someone w/access to some computer software (jon milton?) could speed the entire Leather mixtape up to it's actual 45RPMs to hear what the songs are supposed to sound like.

― Mike Hooter (jaxon), Friday, 28 July 2006 05:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

does that brennan green dude fit in here? liking a couple of things I've heard of his lately.

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Friday, 28 July 2006 05:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

Brennan Green is great, but I think he's too clean sounding maybe!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 28 July 2006 06:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

clean ~~sounding~~ shaven

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 July 2006 06:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

new Brennan Greene w/ Ron Morrelli is pretty weird. I've always known Brennan to be into some crazy stuff, he used to DJ imPLOG and Jeff and Jane Hudson records, but when it came down to it, he was a hippie disco kid at heart...he turned me onto Grateful Dead's Shakedown Street, which I hated at the time. But this new track is pretty out there.

I haven't listened to the Rub-n-Tug mix much yet but the only one I recognized right away is the once called "spleez", which is the instrumental to Spark's When I'm With You, played at the wrong speed of course.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

the track "the he" is the the... duh

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

I want to hear more Lee Douglas/Doug Lee. "Same Changes" is a magnificent song.

― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Love the guitar on that one.

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

care of Dan Balis of Escort (also appearing on a recent Metro Area 12"). What an incestuous group of retro-loving disco lame-os.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Escort 12" is the summer jam of the year for me.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

the next one is hot.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost - which reminds me, i have something to listen to. thanks.

― Mike Hooter (jaxon), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

What an incestuous group of retro-loving disco lame-os.

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have a couple of the rub n tug tracks up from spoonful of leather on my blog

http://blacknoise.blogspot.com it would be cool to get ids. I just found out that LA is thick with this stuff and the dates up above with mathew johnson and lee douglas look awesome

― hector (hector), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

by the way how far into spacey jazz does anyone think this stuff can veer? Lonnie Liston Smith, Pharoah Sanders?

― hector (hector), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

Don't think any of this is really in that vein, but here's some of Loda's favorite jazz and fusion tracks [from here]:

Jazz / Fusion:
Tony Esposito - Processione sul mare
Billy Cobham - Stratus
Harbie Hancock - Chameleon / Hang Up Your Hang Ups
Ralph MacDonald: Jam on the Groove
The Crusaders - Stomp and Buck Dance
Don Cherry - Brown Rice

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

IDRIS MUHAMMAD - Could Heaven Be Like This

― mark grebt (sanskrit), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^ major space jazz soul

― mark grebt (sanskrit), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^ also the main sample for the latest Kris Menace/Lifelike filter-disco jam.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jazz in the late 70s / early 80s (jazz goes pop, jazz goes disco)

― Mike Hooter (jaxon), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

George Benson's El Barrio would fit nicely into one of these sets I think.

― hector (hector), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

when idris is good he's good but when he's bad i want to raep my cats with a lava lamp

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

is the The The track from Soul Mining? You know Thomas Leer worked on some of Soul Mining. Thomas Leer is THE cosmic/New Wave crossover god.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 28 July 2006 22:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Spurred on by Mike (who also provided it to me) I gotta agree, that Starlight rekkid is excellent.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 28 July 2006 22:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wait, so Rub 'n' Tug vol. 2/Spoonful of Leather/whatever is an edits album, not a mix?

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 28 July 2006 22:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's both

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

not quite sure its a mix cause there is a clear deliniation between tracks

― hector (hector), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

(not really on topic of beardo disco here) but I was looking through the clearance rack at Ross today and all of a sudden, 'Good Times' comes over the store speakers. Ah... and I found an awesome shirt, too. Thanks Chic!

― trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 29 July 2006 01:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Currently listening to this, I guess this belongs on this thread... regardless, it's Great!

― willem -- (willem), Saturday, 29 July 2006 13:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

I would like to hear some of that six cups of rebel.

― hector (hector), Saturday, 29 July 2006 16:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

you can catch another track of the ep here...

― willem -- (willem), Saturday, 29 July 2006 17:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

cool blog, i got it bookmarked now

― hector (hector), Saturday, 29 July 2006 17:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

also the main sample for the latest Kris Menace/Lifelike filter-disco jam

not sure if you're talking about the "I Feel Music in your Heart" remix, but that's a great track

― Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

I am.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Escort 12" is the summer jam of the year for me.

I haven't heard (of) this. Details please?

And returning to the Whatever We Want questions ...

How is the new Map of Africa? Who is Godsy? Why do they press so few copies?

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Saturday, 29 July 2006 20:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard (of) this. Details please?

It's called "Starlight" (Escort 001) and it's AWESOME. Such a convincing '70s disco sound that I can't believe it came out this year.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 29 July 2006 21:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

Thanks.

Escort isn't the easiest thing to google!

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Saturday, 29 July 2006 21:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Godsy = Gareth Goddard = Cherrystones

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 29 July 2006 21:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think a fair question would be does Whatever We Want intentionally print small runs and decline repressings in order to capitalize on the DJ/digger fallacy that rare/$$$/OOP = great record? can't hurt on getting the press to pick up on your scent.

http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=quiet+village&thumbs=&x=0&y=0

i'm not attacking them here, just wondering if it's a strategy. a pretty smart one if it is. magazine writeups and dj gigs can be a lot more valuable than the margin on a few boxes of records.

― mark grebt (sanskrit), Saturday, 29 July 2006 22:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

I say yes and who the hell can blame them! Also, it's not like other musicians don't do the same. Noise groups? It's a fucking forest of this sort of 'marketing.'

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 30 July 2006 03:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

re starlight
ahh! finally something to spend that last remaining free itunes song on

and, what new map of africa?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 04:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

'the sound of the fens'.

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Sunday, 30 July 2006 05:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

whatever we want's website says they've got an mp3 store coming at some point.

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Sunday, 30 July 2006 07:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

jesus i've seen both of their other singles called 'the sound of the fens' at some point or another

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

and that is why i never clicked through to that

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 30 July 2006 13:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Rub-n-Tug mix for Fabric comes out next month. No tracklist yet, the only posted info is the cover, but I Are Exciteds.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Sunday, 30 July 2006 18:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

mmm yesss

― gaseous (gaseous), Sunday, 30 July 2006 22:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's kind of a pain in the arse, though. You decide to stop stealing people's music on mp3 and actually like buy some records, but only if they're sexy and exciting. Then all the records you feel like buying are so hard to get hold of you end up just downloading them on mp3 again.

Yeah, I thought the one with Dirty Lovin and Off The Coast was called the sound of the fens too. I wonder what it refers to as well. I thought 'fen' was only a East Anglian word/thing.

Rub & tug were at Fabric last weekend, but I couldn't make it. Did anyone go?

Is anyone else playing this sort of stuff in London at the minute?

― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Monday, 31 July 2006 12:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

Just got the Rub-n-Tug Better with a Spoonful of Leather mix in the mail and it is an absolute delight. You could view it as just LOL SCREWED DISCO WOT LARFS, but it just works far better than it should.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 3 August 2006 04:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

You could view it as just LOL SCREWED DISCO WOT LARFS, but it just works far better than it should.

it'd be a lot LOLer if there weren't DJs doing this shit for 25 years in italy

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

Bitter much?

Better than releasing all ninety of your mixes on CASSETTE.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

who did that?!

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Beppe Loda, back in the '80s.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

and baldelli, in the 70s and 80s
and dj mozart

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 3 August 2006 06:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

We could namedrop all day or we could DANCE

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 3 August 2006 07:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

Anyone got any track IDs for the Rub n Tug mix other than Soft Cell - Heat, Gino Soccio - Visitors and the King Crimson one that I can't remember the title of? (And I can't tell you track numbers for those as I'm at work, sorry.)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 3 August 2006 07:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

nobody really dances to that Cosmic crap, you can't even get people to dance to Metro Area in NYC...TOO SLOW.

fucking losers.

What would be great is the chance to hear Beppe Loda in an intimate setting, like a small, cozy bar.

http://www.tropicalcomputersystems.com

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

argh...

http://www.tropicalcomputersystem.com/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

is your man Jeremy actually writing a book on cosmic? or did i just hear that wrong and he's doing it via his site and his mixes?

― heavyweight grebt (sanskrit), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

no way, not me. never writing a book. i am however working on an interview of loda, exerpts of which are up on the tropical site. hope to have the full thing in print eventually.

― Graham Gouldman (Graham Gouldman), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

We could namedroppost on ILX all day or we could DANCE

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 3 August 2006 19:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

~~namedrop~~

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 3 August 2006 19:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

Have you done the Name Drop? It's the latest CrAzE!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 19:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

tracklist's dropped:

01. Intro
02. Seven Deadly Strokes - Claude VonStroke (Neuton)
03. What Else Is There [The Emperor Machine Vocal Version] - Royksopp (Wall of Sound)
04. Evening Standard - Jesse Rose (Dubsided)
05. Let’s Get Busy - Curtis McClaine And On The House (Trax)
06. Turkish Tavern - Gary Martin (Teknotika)
07. Shemale [Black Strobe Mix] - Sir Drew (Adrift)
08. Atto D’Amore [Dub] - Serge Santiago (Arcobaleno)
09. Dragon [Shit Robot ‘Breathing Fire’ Remix] - Dondolo (Tiny Sticks)
10. Lonely Child [Satoshi Tomiie 3D Remix Dub] - Slok (Saw Recordings)
11. No Exit - Rufuss (Qalomota)
12. Come A Little Closer - Foolish & Sly (Cynic)
13. L’Asteroide [Original Impact Mix] - Nemesi (Relish)
14. Blackmoon - Force Of Nature (Libyus)
15. Discopolis - Lifelike And Kris Menace (Defected)
16. Engoli - Ame (Sonar Kollektiv)
17. Catch A Moment In Time [Ewan Pearson’s Memory Blessed Remix] - Mocky Ft. Taylor Savvy (Fine)

lookin' kinda trimmed. they clean up nicely.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

dirtybird + dubsided + defected = house music for the youngsters!

plus why don't more people rep for ame. what i always hoped broken beat would sound like.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

What's that the tracklist for?

― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

rub n tug fabric mix.

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 13:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

"We're into having a party. Music and having a drink and a good time. The first Rub N Tug night was a loft jam, a crazy night with forty cases of champagne on the fire escape, fights broke out while we scratched records. At one point T played the keyboard with his bare ass. You know that kind of party. That's how it started; may it continue as it began."

otm.

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 13:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

who's going to rub n tug saturday?

― heavyweight grebt (sanskrit), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

who's going to rub n tug thursday?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

you're going?

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

for those of you in LA who are jealous of the new yorkers getting all this loverly stuff, there is a club for you. http://blackdisco.net/

now if there was only something like this in SF so i wouldn't be so jealous of both of y'all.

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

new yorkers getting what lovely stuff?

I'm going thursday maybe for various reasons.

I can't go saturday, already have tickets to the YYY/Sonic Youth show at Mccarren Pool from ages ago. Didn't realize it was the same day as the Escort live set, otherwise I would've checked out Escort a few weeks back at the tribecca.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 23:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

so we've already established how much the beardos love the Doors. For good reason. Jim had a beard. He liked to rock, he liked to dance. Anyway, tonight Eric played some banging track with Hello, I Love You mixed in. The kind of thing that if I heard it in a record store I'd be like, this is terrible, but in the midst of dancing like a maniac it was fun as hell.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 August 2006 06:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

it wasn't this was it??

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Friday, 11 August 2006 06:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

No. Though it might have been similar. Maybe another remix or someone did an edit? It had way less vocals.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

The PS1 Rub & Tug party tomorrow should be fun. Oh, and the art too.

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

there's a dub on the promo with a lot less vocals. when i first heard it i thought 'yuk!', then my cohort played it out and it sounded immense.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

adam freeland! jesus.....maybe it would sound good in a club. I did hear it in a record store and think "ugh". listening to new breaks releases is like picking scabs.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

SO I'm missing PS 1 today due to YYY/SY, but everyone's going to the Water Taxi beach Rebound party to hear Metro Area DJ, right?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 12 August 2006 16:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

nope, i'm going to see ESG and Tim Sweeney.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 12 August 2006 18:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know where i can track down a Force of Nature remix of a Sly Mongoose track called "SELMA'S ROCK"? A Japanese friend has it on a cd-r and has played it for me a few times and i'm in love with it... total japanese disco-psych jammer.

― grady (grady), Saturday, 12 August 2006 19:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

I hate beards. Metro Area and the like have never rubbed me as hippie-esch in anyway....that sort of sound rubs me as clean, raw, modern & funky. Then again, I obviously don't analyze this shit as much as y'all.

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Saturday, 12 August 2006 20:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

nobody called Metro Area beardo...just brought it up because it's an "after-party" for rub-n-tug at PS 1. There's some crossover...and in some ways they are anti-beardo.

fwiw, we showed up a little after 10, when we found out what time Metro Area were supposed to go on we left. Caught them coming in as we were going out.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 13 August 2006 05:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

you missed yrself. ESG were seismic and Sweeney destroyed it.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 13 August 2006 05:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 13 August 2006 12:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

New Beppe Loda mix for those heading to PS1 this week: [here] (70 mb)

And because Dan will do it if I don't: BEPPE LODA AT DAZZLE SHIPS!! AUG 23!! HEATHERS!!

― Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

new yorkers getting what lovely stuff?

all the talk of PS1 and yr club. i mean it's way better than the shit i get out here.

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Gorillaz - Kids With Guns (Quiet Village Remix)(White)

???????

Anyone heard this?

― grady (grady), Thursday, 17 August 2006 23:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

And because Dan will do it if I don't: BEPPE LODA AT DAZZLE SHIPS!! AUG 23!! HEATHERS!!

hmm.. fap?

― mentalismé (sanskrit), Thursday, 17 August 2006 23:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

we want hmm fap

― genital hyphys (haitch), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Quiet Village Project - Fragments of Fear Mix
http://www.purepleasuremusic.com/mixes/media/29.mp3

only 2 minutes into it, but there's a buncha horror flick dialogue and the first piece of music is Goblin, so it might be a bit scary for those young lads out there.

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fragments of Fear is amazing- here's the tracklisting:

http://www.discogs.com/release/714984

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

hmm.. fap?

seems so!

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

New Beppe Loda mix for those heading to PS1 this week: [here] (70 mb)

i have no fucking idea who any of the names being dropped/discussed here are, but that mix is aewesoem

― =[[ (eman), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.tropicalcomputersystem.com/

google

has most answers

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 18 August 2006 23:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

Gorillaz - Kids With Guns (Quiet Village Remix)(White)
???????
Anyone heard this?

-- grady, August 18th, 2006.

yup.

― jaime (jaime), Saturday, 19 August 2006 00:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

mungolian jet set mix of Kreeps "All I want to do is break some hearts" is good (though my version is "break some legs"!). crazy flute solo, big beats, shuffle vs straight disco-funk, pretty cool

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

i listened to most of the fragments of fear thing and wasn't amazed at all (wasn't scared and didn't chuckle either, but i'm not sure what they were going for). kinda boring! too hairy and not enough disco?

i stumbled across this on slsk (i think someone just put all the tracks in a folder together and they were in a different order, but its pretty great):

1. 7 Samurai Brothers
2. DJ Harvey Blue Love
3. Donald Byrd Wind Parade
4. Kano It's A War
5. Kelley Polar Here In The Night
6. Lindstrom & Prins Thomas Sykkelsesong
7. Maxence Cyrin Disco's Revenge (Original By Gusto)
8. Moxie Loving It
9. Ost & Kjex Have You Seen The Moon In Dallas (Maurice Fulton Remix 2)
10. Quiet Village Project Can't Be Beat
11. Sam-Jam Dance And Chant (Edit)
12. Serafin Starship Discothéque
13. Walter Murphy Afternoon Of A Faun

― consigliere (consigliere), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 16:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

thats mtrbrt's "autumn disco" mix

01. Maxence Cyrin - Disco's Revenge(Original By Gusto) (2:18)				[F-Communications - F 236 CD - 2005]
02. Walter Murphy - Afternoon Of A Faun (8:02)		[Extended Pleasure - EP 001 - 2005 (1979)]
03. Quiet Village Project - Can't Be Beat (5:46)		[Whatever We Want Records - WWEW 002 - 2005]
04. Billy Paul - Let The Dollar Circulate (4:53)		[Philadelphia International Records - PIR 69207 - 1975]
05. DJ Harvey - Blue Love (3:36)			[Black Cock Records - BK 017 - ????]
06. 7 Samurai - Brothers (5:48)				[G.A.M.M. - GAMM 022 - 2005]
07. Moxie - Loving It (5:49)				[Moxie - Mx-008 - 2005]
08. Sam-Jam - Dance & Chant (Edit) (6:34)		[Martin - 30C 10159 - 1979]
09. Kelley Polar - Here In The Night (4:13)			[Environ - ENVCD005 - 2005]
10. Kano - It's A War (Edit) (2:45)			[Emergency Records - EMDS 6512 - 1980]
11. Lindstrom & Prins Thomas - Sykkelsesong (5:53)	[Eskimo Recordings -  541416 501428 - 2005]
12. Ost & Kjex - Have You Seen The Moon In Dallas
(Maurice Fulton Remix 2)				[Planet Noise - PN 22004 - 2004]
13. Serafin - Starship Discothéque (10:11)		[Liebe Detail - ld07 - 2005]
14. Donald Byrd - Wind Parade (6:05) 			[Blue Note - 54326 - 1997(1975)]

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

is there a reason i always see the catalogue numbers for whatever we want prefaced by WWEW? shouldn't it be WEWW?

― hippo eats dwarlf (lfam), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

or
google
has most answers

-- Dan Selzer (danselze...) (webmail), August 18th, 2006 8:22 PM.

O RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLY

― =[[ (eman), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

thanks ferzaffe! i tried googling that mix, but i forgot it was called autumn disco!

oh and domminique or anyone else: do you buy this stuff or get promos? i am going to be playing things like this on my syndicated college radio show and i am fine with buying the records when possible (or mp3s - also mixes), but promos are nice. are people approachable through myspace? i am especially interested in the new york contingent (and anyone else in the us). if anyone wants to help me out please shoot me an email. thanks!

― consigliere (consigliere), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 17:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

WhatEver We Want vs Whatever WE Want

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 18:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

for more info on Beppe Loda, if you're too cool for google, he's on Tim Sweeney's show tonight:

Beats in Space is a radio show mixed live by Tim Sweeney in New York City on WNYU 89.1 FM... Tuesday nights from 10:30pm to 1:00am

http://www.beatsinspace.net

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 23:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

-- consigliere (c.t.mumme...), August 22nd, 2006.

quiet village had a lot of their stuff available for download thru myspace but that seems to be over. i think there is supposed to be an mp3 store in the works.

ps the record i have says "WEWW"

― jaime (jaime), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 23:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

the gorillaz remix was never on the myspace, was it?

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 00:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

no. it's apparently "never to be released"

― jaime (jaime), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 04:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

saw one of the guys from in flagranti DJ last night. he pretty much played straight disco which was a mild surprise, thought it might've been a more electro set. also, dude was rocking very thick beard and black flag t-shirt!

― genital hyphys (haitch), Saturday, 26 August 2006 13:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure if what i got is the new Quiet Village LP, but it's pretty great. reminds me a lot of the Space 'Magic Fly' album. real slow and romantic.

01. can't be beat
02. negro
03. too high to move
04. pillow talk
05. drax
06. circus of horrors
07. days

― jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyone heard the rub n tug fabric yet? i suspect it'll be in the mailbox any day now but i'm just curious

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

50 copy pressing, only available in a Shibuya sneaker boutique.

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost to jaxon

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

which sneaker boutique?

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 23:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

the fabric mix showed up in my mailbox today.

i think spoonful is my favorite mix so far this year.

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 7 September 2006 01:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

plz 2 ysi "QV LP"

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

on first listen i like the fabric mix. it sounds very much like a good night out in the main room at fabric kind of like their take on craig richards or something. it also reminds me of the tunnel in NYC - big room spacey 90s disco (not disco loop) house.

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

lfam, hope that's yr real email address

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 September 2006 03:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah not really feelin the fabric mix. it's good for what it is but not a patch on the eskimo

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha i heard a dj play "jesus is just alright with me" tonight...the beardo virus is spreading...

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

it doesn't seem much like a rub'n'tug mix, honestly!

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

fuck, i'm starting to sound euro on the internet

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

seriously, though, it sounds more like that old chicken lips comp on NRK ...

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 7 September 2006 04:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

OK two minutes in QV LP is amazing

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 7 September 2006 06:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

Damn that sounds tasty

― gaseous (gaseous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 07:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

mr. brojangles, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not..

very curious to hear this.

― gaseous (gaseous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 07:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

QV LP I mean

― gaseous (gaseous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 07:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

ysi plz.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 7 September 2006 07:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

;)

― Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Thursday, 7 September 2006 08:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh look, its a DC Recordings mix cd. i think its pretty beardo

― Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Thursday, 7 September 2006 08:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

sarcasm

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Beardo-y mix tapes from the 90s from the dudes behind In Flagranti and Codek Records:

http://downrightuptight.com/smylonylon.html

― Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 7 September 2006 15:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

that DC thing isn't mixed, it's a compilation. and a great one!

― something less threatening (heywood), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

there's this breathy vocal sample in negro that's used to accentuate the rhythm. it's just somebody breathing. ah-ah ahhhh ah-ah ahhhh ah-ah ahhhh great!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

you seem to forget enigma

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

i actually put the QV thing in a playlist with an Art of Noise album and could barely tell when one ended and the other started

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

good job confounded, good job.

dude was way ahead of the rest of us, NY at least.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

Smylon 28 (I think?) was available on the oxfam blog a little while ago.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 7 September 2006 20:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

the first in flagranti 12" a piano-driven afrofunk thing, wasn't it?

― grady (grady), Thursday, 7 September 2006 20:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

was a piano driven...

― grady (grady), Thursday, 7 September 2006 20:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

DEEEEEEEEEP is the new QV.

― trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 16 September 2006 22:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

the remix?

― grady (grady), Sunday, 17 September 2006 04:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

all of the more recent output.

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 17 September 2006 06:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

agreed.

― grady (grady), Sunday, 17 September 2006 06:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

DEEEEP?

― hector (hector), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 20:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

treeeep hop

― Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 21:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

rub n tug on saturday

any NYers ever been to 6's and 8's

― dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 21:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

New York Magazine says it's closed...?

http://nymag.com/listings/bar/6s_and_8s/index.html

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 21:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

I dj'd in the basement there once, after brian from Gang Gang Dance and hstencil, who's headphones were stolen that night. It had carpet, which sucked. Haven't been back since.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 22:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

New York Magazine says it's closed...?

weird. rub n tug myspace just says they are playing 205 Chrystie St so I googled the address and came up with that. maybe it's reopening under a new name.

probably wouldn't have ended up going anyway since I just got tix to thursday Soulwax thing @ studio B.

― dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 23:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

A little harvey thing here...
http://ktuh.org/sovery/playlist.html
Is the track after the Lift Boys really Crue-l Grand Orchestra? Sounds so great!

― Geoffrey Priory (big peach), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's the EYE remix.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh OK... makes sense

― Geoffrey Priory (big peach), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

actually, i'm just guessing as i haven't listened to the mix.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

it sounds a lot rawer than any of the clips i can find online ( i don't know the original track)...
will try and track down the eye version anyways, ta!

― Geoffrey Priory (big peach), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

i helped put the lift boys record out, so i'm chuffed to see it being played by harvey (and indeed, your good self)

― Geoffrey Priory (big peach), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's a great record. good work putting it out!

i had a quick listen to the mix and the track after lift boys is actually 'spin' by the impossible dreamers, an edit of which is on the first betty botox lp.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

then there's a track i don't know and then it's the original mix of crue-l grand orchestra.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

thanks for clearing that up!

― Geoffrey Priory (big peach), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

i just emailed you the impossible dreamers track.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

can anyone tell me anything about Felix from the UK? Should I go see him spin this weekend?

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

here's a 5 hour set from thomas r&t

http://www.lailoni.com/thomas.mp3

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

i had a dream about rub and tug last night :-O

― davina q (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

nocturnal emission?

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 21 September 2006 13:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

a vision

i will relate it later on vahid's dance trends of 2007 thread

― davina q (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 21 September 2006 13:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

seems like that venue is heavily on the beardo tip these days, just got this email from the no ordinary monkey crew:

weekly starting this friday 22nd at sixes and eights

monkey crew, romper styles -

anton, phil & carlos

and for those of you that missed Lovefingers at Dazzle Ships last night. SHAME ON YOU.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 September 2006 14:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

So who/what is Lovefingers and where is/are she/he/they based?

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.lovefingers.org/

he's from LA.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 September 2006 16:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I visit the site pretty much daily, but I didn't know if there was more info. So he's "just" a dj, no actual releases or production work or anything? I always thought it might be a pseudonym for someone else I might know.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

his name is andrew. he's a pretty nice fellow. receptive to emails.

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

for some reason I thought he was just gonna play cosmic disco style stuff. He played the Gist, ZNR and was generally all over the map with cool shit.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

DC Recordings comp very good, Kelpe tracks standing out to me right now (and who is Vincent Markowski?)

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 21 September 2006 19:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lovefingers set on Beats in Space!

― grady (grady), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

aaahhh...new notice from no ordinary monkey...

my mistake: sixes & eights now = 205 CLUB

with lush new sound...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

i will relate it later on vahid's dance trends of 2007 thread

Is it real? I looked but couldn't find it.

― jerome dwyer (jjrome), Friday, 22 September 2006 03:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

big dance trends for 2007

― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

jess' dream kinda went like this: he started growing this amazing beard and then realized it was rub'n'tug's pubic hair

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

my theoretical phallus fits perfectly in their chin vagina

― davina q (dubplatestyle), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

sure he wasn't rocking the merkin?

― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Thanks!

I had a look... I think it's gaetting a bit silly in there.
I'll stick to this thread.

― jerome dwyer (jjrome), Friday, 22 September 2006 22:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol @ the official Japanese E2-E4 t-shirt

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Saturday, 23 September 2006 23:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

Don't forget to bring a towel

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyone into low motion disco? I found them on myspace and am loving it.
Also Guilty Pleasures is pretty good too.

When is someone going to release a comp of this stuff?

― hector (hector), Monday, 2 October 2006 21:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Just DLed this:

The Quiet Village Dub version is pretty nice and deep.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

i bet, i liked the lindstrom/prins thomas remix of the same song.

A quiet village album would be nice.

― hector (hector), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Actually, it is a different song by the same artist.

― researching ur life (grady), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

im just waitin for one of these guys to actually title a track "mike love" or "dennis wilson"

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am waiting for someone to start producing under the name "mike love or dennis wilson"

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

that is my new band name. out goes 'the pillowtalk no-nos.' in comes 'mike love or dennis wilson.' thanks guys.

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 00:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

HEY DUDE

let's do a 10 minute edit of "good vibrations".

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

i listened to "wild honey" all weekend, btw

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

in the liner notes of "macro dub infection" dude claims (steve barrow?) that "mike love once dubbed out a 10-minute version of good vibrations" ....

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

we'll do a "minimal synth" version of "windchimes" for the flip

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

BEST IDEA EVAH

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Even fictitious credit is too much credit for Mike Love.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

ALLEZ ALLEZ ARE TEH SHIT

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

So how would you like to see Mike Love perish?

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

Don't necessarily know about teh beardo label for this one, but lfam gave me this for my birthday:
ihttp://www.banquetrecords.com/graphics/envun05.jpg

And it is fucking sweet.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

so, nearly (good lord) 10 months on from my initial post on this thread, i remain unconvinced that this stuff is anything more than the new dancerock, the middleaged flipside of the mstrkrft/ed banger shit, with "cooler" inputs. (what sort of world have we woken up in when soft-rock is "cooler" than punk/metal.) (a: a good one.)

that said, i still love it all. even if it's the fakest dance genre ever. i want it to go EVEN MORE soft-rock/prog-rock. like a 2006 update of chill out or something.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

actually, the more i think about it, this is like what would have happened had daft punk chosen alan parsons over michael mcdonald.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah the less of a beat this stuff has the better it gets!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

listening to Gong's You LP from another thread, and it has beardo written all over it!

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

shabba ranks, I've actually had a weird feeling about some of this stuff too, if only because I always hated acid jazz, and a lot of beardo-y stuff approaches that same kind of MOR funkiness. and I'm also w/you wrt a cool thing that could happen to a lot of this music is to go oven further over (under?) the top

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

the question is not what makes this better than (acid jazz / trip hop / dance rock) but why you hated those things in the first place??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

as far as ed banger / electroclash goes, well, thomas bullock WAS in ARE weapons, but i don't think there's much of a tangible connection other than both beloved by NY scenester types ... which is something, along the lines of why chemical brothers fans listened to dave clarke back in 1995, but it doesn't really show that chems = dave clarke or anything like that

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

well no i dont think there's a tangible connection at all, really. this is all theoretical rock critic mind games on my part.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey wait ... you have a beard, right?

HYPOCRITE

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

i said i loved it, didn't i!

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

i remain unconvinced that this stuff is anything more than the new dancerock

the lindstrom/prins album is just updated post-rock

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah see that's kinda exactly what i'm talking about. it's not the NEW dancerock so much as its dancerock expanding outward from JUST 78-83.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

and again, FRANCIS GRASSO, y'all. while i'm glad rub'n'tug are out there mixing shit up, i remain unconvinced this is anything NEW. (doesn't have to be "new" to be good, mind you.)

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

how popular is this stuff?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

like it got popular among my close friends because i gave it to them but i'm sort of out of the loop right now

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

not very popular at all, i would guess.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

though popular enough to rate a fabric mix.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

basically it's the dance music equivalent of crate digging isn't it??

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes ... so it's acid jazz / trip hop 2006 style

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

so confusing

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

i stand by my non-original "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" thesis

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah yeah blah blah big beat blah blah

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

np: "in/flux"

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha vahid do you want me to turn off the email notifications thing btw?

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm not really sure where those email notifications are going ... i don't actually even check my hotmail, it's like a dedicated junk mail email address.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's not new but maybe a return to old, or just an expanding of the dance music canon...but let it be known that even as eclectic as the mixes/playlists/blogs suggest, the actual dance sets are usually almost as insular as before. Not as bad, but still. There's an aspect to some of this which is like, "I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree" knowing that of course everyone will fall in line, lest they seem rockist when sayng "no, that was crap then and it's crap now". This statement makes it seem like I agree with the latter, when I'm more in line with the former, btw. But it's also the crate-diggers joy of finding the stuff, like, everyone's bored with al lthe "disco" and "italo" and "house" or whatever but did you know this AM gold artist had a b-side recorded in jamaica that's really dubby and dancey? Did you know that even though for 20 years everyone's considered this disco crossover record was crap we've all decided it's actually cool because you know what, we like disco.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

i like to think that every time we post on this thread, it's like stepping on a crack in the sidewalk and dan selzer gets a stabbing, migraine-like pain behind his eyes.

haha xpost

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

unless you're british, in which case it's the ultimate dance rockism of "oh, it's just balearic again innit"

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

re: what I hated about acid jazz in the first place: MOR

basically agreeing with the notion "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" -- see "Losing My Edge" as exhibit A, not to mention a lot of Lindstrom stuff. It does appear to be difficult, however, to produce tracks using this really mellow source material without in turn mellowing, smoothing it down even more (possibly to accomodate the extended forms of most electronic dance music?), and taking more of the edge off.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

"I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree"

i think this is an appropriate thing to say re: all the balearic stuff

xpost!!

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

why don't I understand a single thing vahid ever posts ever?

for the record...I don't remember a time A.R.E. Weapons were actually popular, even with NY hipsters. Their shows were just parties filled with their friends, and they had lots of friends, but it never seemed to go any further then that.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

generation gap??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have no problem with crate digging, though! even cheeseball shit. the "alchemy of the mix" and all. i actually wrote about rub'n'tug this week and my basic, uh, argument (other than that it was the new dance-rock, mostly so i could tie it to mstrkrft in the piece because they're playing here this week) (not as tenuous as you think, i swear) was that what makes them good was their "curatorial" skillz. (and the cheap trick of slowing down spoonful of leather.) (also forgot the fabric mix doesn't come out for like another month...oops.)

xpost: dan, vahid is actually like the little boy who dunks the girls pigtails in the inkwell because he secretly likes her, don't worry.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

what are peoples arguments against crate digging?

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

balearic's been a big reference point to all this, but at the same time, it has a decidedly "chilled out" aesthethic that makes it only part of the story. Cosmic is a step more diverse, weirder stuff, noisier stuff, then you get into the whole dance-punk v. 1.0 mudd club/hurrahs/danceteria/99 records etc...I'd think most of these DJs may start or end on the balearic tip, but it's all about "slamming" beats at some point in the night.

generation gap??

how old are you?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

LOOK TO THE FUTURE < /s. reynolds>

xpost

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was kidding!!!

(almost 30)

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

unlike pop bloggers, crate diggers tend to be pale, overweight, unsightly shut-ins w/ bad personal hygeine

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was kidding!!!

Well it's something!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

nyc vs. cali

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

alt: death row vs. bad boy

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

the term balearic makes my flesh crawl.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

did quiet village project get their name from the ritchie family track 'quiet village'? medium tempo disco with wailing synths flying all over the place? i know there was also a martin denny song of the name. it seems like if you crossed the two you would get quiet village project...

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh the ritchie family track is a version of the les baxter composition that denny was working with, too

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

the plot thickens

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

(xxxpost) So, Stir, you're not gonna drop any Groove Armada for us hands-in-the-air types next week in NYC?

kidding.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't be surprised if it were the Martin Denny record, lfam. I mean, the liner notes from the record:
"Maybe you've wondered what-in-the-world kind of fellow is he to have cooked up these fantastic sounds. Maybe you have in mind a pale, aesthetic type who flutters his hands and uses mystic four-hundred-dollar words to describe what he is doing. Surprise...he's a great big husky guy who looks like he could make bow knots out of iron bars. He is very shy, completely genuine and, first and foremost, a fine musician who plays piano like crazy."

It's so fucking good. I would name a group that based on that blurb alone. Also the cover:

YES

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

and about the discussion up-thread:

What is wrong with balearic? Also, where does deep house fit in?

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

"it's not new but maybe a return to old, or just an expanding of the dance music canon...but let it be known that even as eclectic as the mixes/playlists/blogs suggest, the actual dance sets are usually almost as insular as before. Not as bad, but still. There's an aspect to some of this which is like, "I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree" knowing that of course everyone will fall in line, lest they seem rockist when sayng "no, that was crap then and it's crap now". This statement makes it seem like I agree with the latter, when I'm more in line with the former, btw. But it's also the crate-diggers joy of finding the stuff, like, everyone's bored with al lthe "disco" and "italo" and "house" or whatever but did you know this AM gold artist had a b-side recorded in jamaica that's really dubby and dancey? Did you know that even though for 20 years everyone's considered this disco crossover record was crap we've all decided it's actually cool because you know what, we like disco.
-- Dan Selzer (danselze...), October 11th, 2006."

heh, i just got an online store email about a sampler for this mix:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.asp?ID=8070

growing up in canada i find it so funny that corey hart's o.g. version of 'sunglasses at night' is a considered to be 'rare' in some parts

― jaime (jaime), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

they are almost certainly named after the martin denny record.

What is wrong with balearic?

a bunch of london soul djs go to ibiza in the late 80's, take a load of e and hear djs playing house music, nitzer ebb and manuel gottsching and think this is revolutionary. they come back and decide they have invented balearic. clubs all over the world (even in london) were doing exactly the same thing at that time. it was pretty normal but because they were so insular they didn't have a clue. as they are in with all the right media people, they get the credit for starting a musical revolution. tossers.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 12 October 2006 09:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

heh, i just got an online store email about a sampler for this mix: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.asp?ID=8070

12. The Osmonds - iii (Quiet Village No-edit)

wtf is a no-edit? please don't tell me they changed nothing and added their name

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

no edit is the beardo subsidiary of no limit records

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

I didn't realize Radioslave / Rekid guy was half of Quiet Village. how many good records has that guy had a hand in in the last year, jeez.

― dmr (Renard), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

No Edit Studios, whassup?
Who dis is? Who dis is?
Beardo, this Rappin Balearic, who is this?
Oh dis P
P?! *said with disbelief*
Yeah dis P!
P?! (Yeah) Well if this P lemme hear ya say ungggggggggggh
UngnGNGYAHAHgngnnghh *voice cracking*
This ain't no motherfuckin P!
Man, hang the phone up

Ungggggghh, na-nah na-nah
Make em say UNGGGGGGH (UNGGGGGGH)
Na-nah na-nah (na-nah na-nah)

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

hahah

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sending emails...

Notifications were sent successfully.

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyone gonna step up and discuss the relationship between deep house and
balearic/beardo.

i just got a kerri chandler track that I love. Its slow and slightly dubby, great stuff. Larry Heard also fits nicely into a lot of these mixes.

Kaito's beatless special love album has some great arpeggiated sweetness as well

― hector (hector), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

i refer to you the collected works of fozi j beardo, esq: vol XVII, 2005-2006

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was hoping to get a quick summation, rather than trawl through what i know is your extensive posting on deep house.

― hector (hector), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

P?! (Yeah) Well if this P lemme hear ya say ungggggggggggh

rofl

― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

thread has returned to its roots. kudos; its the thread that brought me to ILM.

― researching ur life (grady), Saturday, 14 October 2006 01:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

what about these beyond the wizzards sleeve thingies. Is it just erol alkan re-edits?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=20729653
They seem tailor made for beardo sets.

― mizzzell (mizzzell), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes they are re-edits by Erol Alkan and Richard Norris

― dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

'light years', the stones one, is really great.

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dan Selzer, these Musiccargo guys sure get nice.

http://www.myspace.com/musiccargo

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

HAHA. my friend just read an article about Map of Africa in either Tokion or W (he forgets) and Map of Africa said their name is the wet shape on a bed after lovemaking

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

DIRTY LOVIN'

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

PHANTOM SLASHER : Gruble LP
NOID RECORDS

Re-edit disco mania seems like the thing to do, between growing a beard and surfing the net for rare and preferably unheard records. As a lifelong follower of fashion in all aspects of life's rainbow, the Phantom Slasher thought it was time to cash in and relieve some poor innocents of their hard earned shekels with a series of pointless re-workings of well known disco records they just found.Featuring a no expense spared all star line up of creative minds Cyrus Posatron and Digby Yakkiddin are assisted in this labour of love by the creative genius that is Frank Rimburger, and a Flock of Terry's amongst others, with all efforts manhandled by the infamous Bobby "Back Door" Dove. They hope the eight works here serve to enrich your world, relight your dancefloor and spread the message of love that is at the centre of all that the Phantom Slasher wants you to feel. These words come from those disco purveyors the Idjut Boys

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 03:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

hard to believe it could live up to the cover

but this is basically the best thing ever ... easily my favorite noid / idjuts release, probably the best beardo comp i've heard since "sarcastic disco" itself

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 03:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 03:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's great isn't it! I should've made more noise about it when I got it.

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Monday, 23 October 2006 04:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm confused. is that a positive review?

― jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 23 October 2006 04:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's a thumbs-up from me! I like the roxy music re-edit on the second disc the best.

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Monday, 23 October 2006 04:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's the promo blurb, written by the idjuts themselves (or someone else @ noid recordings)

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'll break it down

Re-edit disco mania seems like the thing to do, between growing a beard and surfing the net for rare and preferably unheard records

i think they read ILM!

also they put out a record called "beard law" in the mid-90s.

As a lifelong follower of fashion in all aspects of life's rainbow, the Phantom Slasher thought it was time to cash in

they've been working in this vein forever, and have pretty much been exclusively working in the disco/italo/balearic re-edits vein since the late 90s ... the basic breakdown is that their NOID label is almost entirely disco remix/re-edit style and their U-STAR label is original dubby deep house jams ... but U-STAR has been inactive for at least a few years now (?)

and relieve some poor innocents of their hard earned shekels

i don't think they're particularly romantic about disco

with a series of pointless re-workings

the idjuts are probably the most aggressive disco re-editors/remixers i've ever heard. it's more along the lines of "extended sampling" (i just made that term up) than reediting. the end results are pretty fucking far from reedits ... way more "out" than theo's "ugly edits", for example.

of well known disco records

they sample the bee gees! and they re-edit the same track dj hell used for "for your love"! and some of it is crazy shit i've never even heard before.

they just found

again, these guys have been doing the "spinning obscure disco" thing longer than just about anybody but dj harvey (or dudes like tony humphries who were there in the first place).

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

that heavy soundtracky thing (first tune maybe?) is worth the price alone...

― something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

the laisn remixes 12" by idjut boys/lindbaek is totally effing awesome.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 18:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

Loving the Kaos/Sal P mix. It's got the requisite air of gonzo eclecticism, but it's all executed with an air of (dare I say it) professionalism which makes it exceedingly easy on the ears.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 29 October 2006 08:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

In fact the more I listen to it the more I'm convinced this is one of the best things ever.

There are several tracks which have a weird but beautiful Pink Floyd going disco vibe - all the "Pink Floyd goes disco" stuff which was left outside of Scissor Sisters' "Comfortably Numb".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 30 October 2006 09:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

what record is that, tim?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 30 October 2006 13:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

this? http://www.discogs.com/release/791852

― jaime (jaime), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

Emperor Machine - 'Vertical Tones & Horizontal Noise' is fantastic!

― braveclub (braveclub), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yes that's it Jaime.

I was shocked when I listened to the Logic System track and realised how much of it Reverso 68 swiped for their remix of Manhead's "Doop".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

logic system is so so so so good.

that kaos + sal p mix looks good but i also gotta say it's just like a licensed version of a "best-of" of all the bootleg rub'n'tug / harvey / etc mixes floating around.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

in other words, tim, get yourself some slsk'd rub'n'tug + harvey mixes!!!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

maybe i'll send you a xmas package...

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

tim, did you die laughing when you realised that the billy thorpe track is THAT billy thorpe?

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

buy the licensed version.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

"that kaos + sal p mix looks good but i also gotta say it's just like a licensed version of a "best-of" of all the bootleg rub'n'tug / harvey / etc mixes floating around."

Yes but despite the likely air of unoriginality it would have for a committed fan, this is actually a strong point for know-nothing me. My "professionalism" comment above is a bit of a dig at Campfire really: I like the fact that the Kaos & Sal P mix feels like a best-of, it means it's all killer no filler, a Rough Guide to Beardo basically. The mixing and sequencing are superb as well, it reminds me of the best Glimmer Twins mixes or Jeffrey Mac's Disco Train mix in that you're waiting for a boring track or a drop in intensity and it just doesn't happen.

I still haven't heard Crazy Rhythms yet though, maybe that's even better.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

I couldn't believe that track is by Billy Thorpe!!! It's more like Gina X meets Lene Lovich or something.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

crazy rhythms = crazy good, as is tim sweeney's volume

i see your point. also agree w/ dan, it'll be nice to finally give some money to logic system and zazu.

are harvey's "sonic disco" mixes licensed or bootlegged?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

The "Sonic Disco" Turntablelab for one was selling recently is a bootleg- it seems like the only "official" Harvey mixes out there were the Sound of Ministry mix (good luck getting a copy) and the original Sarcastic Disco mix (ditto).

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sonic Disco Vol 1 is a fucking rip from the streaming version on the PS1 website, i thought!

― researching ur life (grady), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

indeed!

so what's vol. 2 a rip from??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

too lazy to filter though search results for "harvey sonic disco" at djhistory forums right now!

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

page 1-5000 >next previous

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 01:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

DAMN HTML

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 01:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

I still haven't heard Crazy Rhythms yet though, maybe that's even better.

makes all other mix CDs seem tired in comparison.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Coming from you, Dan, that is high praise indeed...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 03:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol

― bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 03:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

the cover art gives me a boner too.

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 03:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

and that's a GOOD picture. oh man, you should see my new New York driver's license...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 05:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

the only problem i have is that I cant stand mix cds. I wish I could have all those little tracks on their own.

No dis to your skills Dan. I have one of your earlier mixes from a few years ago.

I want a straight beardo comp.

― hector (hector), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 05:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

the only problem i have is that I cant stand mix cds. I wish I could have all those little tracks on their own.

but it's so hard to license! (i justify mix CDs as ethically better then bootlegging for the above reason). Anyway, you mean the Golden Limo mix? That was kinda goofy and rushed but fun. I have plans for like 4 more mixes that I've just been too lazy to get to.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

I was thinking about the logistics of licensing some of this stuff recently myself and it has gotta be a pain. However, if groove merchant can do it with their super obscure funk singles it must be possible.

Its all about the return on the investment I guess.

― hector (hector), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's really all about social politics and how insane the artists and/or the label/people that own their material are!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sign me up for the Crazy Rhythms unmixed 3x12". Ditto for Sweeny's!

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Crazy Rhythms is SOLD OUT, btw!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Are there any more RVNG releases in the works Dan? You guys' and Sweeney's mixes and the The Flying Squad 12" all received major air time in my home and automobile.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think the idea was mix CDs, then edits and finally a full-on legit record label, so expect stuff, but I know one of the main dudes has been very busy with other activities.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Considering the quality of the releases so far, the prospect of a full-on legit record label is exciting. I hope that comes to fruition.

Now for the real question: Is it I GET RaViNG? I GET RoViNG (for some reason this is what I always say in my head, strangely)? I GET ReVeNGe? Nothing at all?

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

revenge

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

people should get psyched for Wurst Edits, some really cool stuff coming up there.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

They sent me two free pins when I ordered the Flying Squad 12" and Crazy Rhythms CD at the same time! Nice guys!

Side note- Is there some kind of deep/funky house track that samples Munich Machine's "Get on the Funk Train"? The last two times I saw Harvey spin he played something that had the same Female voice talking at the begining of Trip One, and the same Whistle sample, but otherwise sounded pretty different. But a great track nonethless!

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 22:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

RVNG rules. can't wait for their next release.

also: Dan, how will yr next mixes be available? through RVNG or Acute?

― Robert Acosta (Rob 77), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

free online, they're nothing serious just some fun stuff I've been meaning to do for ages.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 06:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Trawling through discogs.com I notice that the Glimmers beat Rub'n'Tug to using Flash & the Pan's "Midnight Man" on their SummerMadnessAfterSun mix from a few years back. Anyone got that mix? I love "Midnight Man" so much.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 08:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 08:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's their best one

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 08:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lil' Louis & The Party - "Clap Your Hands (Tambourine Mix)"

oh man this is good

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 08:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

Better than Eskimo III? :-( Suddenly I feel like I have a cd-shaped whole in my heart.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 09:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

BTW I'm absolutely loving the Rub'N'Tug remix of Minimal Compact's "Nil Nil" - a fabulous psych-hippie-post-punk-disco meltdown. That guitar!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 09:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

I was thinking that the Rub'n'Tug Fabric mix makes more sense, and sounds better, if you think of it as their equivalent of The Glimmers' Culture Club mixes - no-nonsense, populist, contemporary, almost anti-cratedigger party mixes which complement their more unpredictable retro releases. And you can't argue with tracks like Gary Martin's "Turkish Tavern".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 09:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

i got that Rub N Tug Minimal Compact remix, and it is fabulous. i've never heard the original. is it very similar?

― Robert Acosta (Rob 77), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

but the "culture club" albums are stuffed w/ anthems! and pop stars! and the fabric mix is so anonymous ...

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

upcoming on RVNG - a justine delaney mix cd and a betty botox ep.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

a betty botox ep

ohpleasephpleasohplease let this be the one with "Hallelujah" on it.

― researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 2 November 2006 01:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

found on myspace comments:

mike simonetti - 7/18/2005 12:41 AM
how DARE you mention Selzer as your DJ hero and not mention ME. i quit.

mike simonetti - 7/18/2005 12:42 AM
Larry Levan? i'm better than him too...

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

HA!

― hector (hector), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

basically, this thread, an exercise in inventive genre conjuration, tells us that between lcd/nike, tim sw + dan w/ rvng, + rub n tug / aNYthing that:

beardo = doing promotional mixes for lifestyle brands

― manute lol (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol you forgot harvey / freshjive

― dmr (Renard), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

i thot rvng was just a record label?

― researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

"captain starlight" is definitely the beardiest beardo song i've heard

― gaseous (gaseous), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

It is isn't it! I love when it suddenly goes all astral guitar prog in its instrumental section - outerspace desolation!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

i thot rvng was just a record label?

they were more like a party promoter or something. until recently. aside from the mix CDs, flying squad is the first record they put out I think.

― dmr (Renard), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Right, but otherwise, definatley more music-centric than aNYthing, Nike, FreshJive, or Sarcastic, right?

― researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah

― dmr (Renard), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

i heard Dan Selzer has a mix coming out on Walmart records

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

ooof!

― hector (hector), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Next 12 Target Commercials to be scored with TroublemanUnlimited tracks!!!!

― researching ur life (grady), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

whenever I hear that Goldfrapp song on the ads for "Nip/Tuck" it takes me a second to remember it's not Glass Candy

― dmr (Renard), Friday, 3 November 2006 02:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

rvng was more then a party promoter, def. involved with some behind the scenes lifestyle branding and youth demographic street marketing corporate interests for tons of money and/or sparks type event planning and street teaming.

I made all that up.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 3 November 2006 05:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

and all disco heads, bearded or otherwise, should check out my old partner's blog:

http://vivaitalians.blogspot.com/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 3 November 2006 05:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

damn I wish he posted some of those tracks!

― hector (hector), Friday, 3 November 2006 06:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

beardo = doing promotional mixes for lifestyle brands

-- manute lol (mikeoptin...), November 2nd, 2006 2:34 PM. (sanskrit) (later)

hip is where the hipsters are

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 3 November 2006 06:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

a betty botox ep

voodoo 1 = CRAZY AWESOME

is it bad form to ask how much of that is the original and how much is tweaked? I haven't heard it so I can't tell ....

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone heard of this Elaste vol. 1: Slow Motion Disco comp coming out on Compost? Press release from the Compost site:

The Story of the Italian Cosmic sound in 2 minutes:

Italy, 1976: In a luxurious discotheque on the Italian Adriatic coast, every weekend two American DJs called Bob and Tom play records that are just making history in their hometown NYC at the legendary „Loft“. Bob and Tom are resident DJs at the „Baia Degli Angeli“, a gigantic club with various floors, fountains, swimming pools and lots of glitz of the Jet set. After the Baia closes due to a drug raid, Daniele Baldelli, inspired by the „Baia Sound“ starts DJing in a new club called „Cosmic“ in Lazise.

Not only he´s beat-mixing Funk, Soul and early Disco - Baldelli´s sytle is unique: songs are mixed perfectly in a superslow tempo of 80-105 BPM. Cosmic is like a wild LSD trip: Afro mixed with German electronics, percussion solos, Bolero with delay effects, 12“s on 33 instead of 45, 70s Krautrock, Industrial... This way of playing records is absolutely new, and Daniele gets quickly famous. A whole wave of DJs and clubs get inspired by his mixtapes, and soon the whole of northern Italy calls it „Cosmic Sound“.

Unlike Italodisco, Cosmic or „Afrofunky“ was never exported broadly; it has always stayed a local party phenomenon. That’s one of the reasons why it wasn’t really exploited commercially yet like many other 1980ies genres. Today producers as Lindstrom, Prins Thomas or DJ Harvey caught the spirit and labels like Gomma, or Eskimo are deeply inspired and now try to create dance tracks that have a similar atmosphere.

This compilation is a collection of the original music that was actually played at Discoteca Cosmic. It is playful, experimental, harmonic and most of all it is dance music.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

all the original cosmic mixtapes are available on the internet, although the sound quality isn't the greatest.

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

There was a short review of the Elaste EP on Stylus.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION ...

San Francisco disco people:

Next Wednesday.

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 04:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm so there.

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

telephonething, there's a tiny bit of talk of the Compost Slow Motion Disco here cosmic dancer

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

is it bad form to ask how much of that is the original and how much is tweaked? I haven't heard it so I can't tell ....

it's like a dub of the original - the original has far more vocals. the arrangement has been changed slightly too and some subtle processing has been done. this version is also 100% mixable.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

thanks for the info

it's a great track

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm so there.

:( i'm so not there. thanksgiving weekend and i won't be in town.

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm so there and i will pour a cosmo on the curb for you, jaxon

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

this version is also 100% mixable

This is the Betty Botox Creed, isn't it?

My copy is in the mail fuck yeah.

― researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

yup, betty is a bit of a mixing junkie. she really needs to get over it.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hello friends of Rvng.

It’s with great pleasure that we bring you the second installment in our Rvng of the Nrds 12” edit series. The latest is brought to you by Betty Botox, the queen bee of the classic Kraut 12” and World of Betty Botox and G4 F’ot LPs. By our estimation, some of the most far out production work she’s done. Really lysergic stuff for your inner shaman.

As with the first and future installments of the series, the 12” is limited to 1000 copies. We have about 75 left for mail order after sending most of the pressing to the furthest most regions of the world (who knew Hungarians were so down?). Check out some more info and Mp3 samples from the 12” here:

http://www.igetrvng.com/shop_12_02.html

International friends will notice a new option to ship via air mail for a few dollars more. We ate shitte on the last 12” because we underestimated our shipping costs. So, if you want the 12” before 2007, we highly recommend pony’ing up.

Next time you’ll hear from us will be with news about our next mix CD – RvngMx5 feat. Justine D. We’re assembling now. It’s going to blow minds.

Until then, take good care.

Matt / Rvng Intl.
www.igetrvng.com

― Robert Acosta (Rob 77), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I got this email today and now I had to go and order this thing before payday. That whole "We have about 75 left for mail order" thing really worked.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 16 November 2006 19:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

it is available at piccadilly. but you can't beat $7 including shipping for US residents!!!

― researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 16 November 2006 19:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hell, it worked on me. 75 LEFT OH GOD MUST ORDER NOWS!!1

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have the hard copy on the way but I gotta say that I agree with everyone here Voodoo 1 rocks. Nice job twitch!

― hector (hector), Thursday, 16 November 2006 22:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Metro Area @ RX in Decembre :D or :-*

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Friday, 17 November 2006 02:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Can I just say that the Tantra track on the Kaos/ Sal P mix is pure cosmic bliss when played at 33 and pitched +8 ?????

I seldom use the word "bliss".

― researching ur life (grady), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

i dont like beard-type disco very much. i find the people who play that style to be highly uninspiring. i dont like todd terje, idjuts, harvey, none of them. to me, its just missing something that made me get obsessed with disco and early house in the first place. i definitely dont get the "afro" obsession, that shit is really weak. i also dont have too much of a tolerance for the italo that people seem to love. i like some here and there, but overall id just rather not listen to most of it. the school of disco and house that i study at has alot to do with metro area, theo parrish, norm talley, ron hardy, carl craig, etc.

the thing with these cats i dont dig is that theyre getting to the point where funk and soul diggers are at: theres just not much good material out there that is totally undiscovered. so now we're getting treated to comps and mixes of ridiculously rare, hard to find, and expensive records that i just dont care about even a tiny bit. and the funny thing is that there are a ton of relatively obscure but cheap and easy to find records out there in the disco/early house/italo genres that people just arent playing because people wont sweat their playlists online. its fucking weak. im only interested in hearing good music. if it happens to be rare and obscure, cool. if not, thats cool too.

to be completely honest, i think of disco and house and the like as black music. the way the beardo guys play doesnt give me the impression of black music at all, even when theyre playing records made by black musicians. its the same way those black deejays could play italo and new wave records in a way that made them black music, only now theyre taking black music and making it sound "white". and it just doesnt move me in the same way!

also, id like to point out that i have a very unruly beard.

;)

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

you sound pretty "white" yourself!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

also it's weird that you don't like italo but dig carl craig and metro area, that you don't dig "afro" but you like theo parrish and norm talley.

what do you think these guys have been jacking for years?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

note: by "white", i don't necessarily mean "white" or even ""white"", just that your post didn't "move me in the same way" that a rub'n'tug mix does.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm actually agreeing w/ Vahid on this one.

but...

ton of relatively obscure but cheap and easy to find records out there in the disco/early house/italo genres that people just arent playing because people wont sweat their playlists online

What's this all about? I mean, there's two kinds of people out there, those that only play the playlist as canonized by the secret meetings of the DJ elite, and those that play whatever they want whenever for whatever reason. And the latter group usually influence the former group to a great degree. By not telling us what these obscure but easy to find records are that are so great, aren't you part of the problem?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

hunta, not sure what to tell you. neither carl or metro area are falling over themselves to play any "italo" record, in fact the times ive seen them, MA have played alot more NYC disco boogie than anything else (and ive seen them drop plenty of straight up disco and electro way more than italo stuff) and carl plays from that largely straightforward cannon of italo hits, also not going out of his way to be esoteric for no reason.

and ive seen theo and norm on multiple occasions and ive heard many mixes by them, i dont see them playing anything like what the "afro" type nonsense people are bigging up these days is like.

dan, if you want me to give you lessons on what i mean, you can check track lists of mixes ive made recently:

Mandrill "Echoes in My Mind" A+M
Minnie Riperton "Stick Together" Epic
B.B.S. & C. "Rock Shock" SAM
Twilight 22 "Street Love (Dub Mix)" Vanguard
Chip E. "If You Only Knew (Frankie Knuckles Mix)" DJ International
Cynthia MT "I Can't Stop" Dance Mania
Endgames "First, Last, For Everything" Flip
Rick Wade "Deep-N-Dirty" Harmonie Park
Painted Pictures "Something (Malik Alston + Doc Link Mix)" Truth Manifest
Coldcut + Lisa Stansfield "People Hold On (New Jersey Jazz Mix)" Tommy Boy
Povo "Hi Fly" Raw Fusion
Teddy Pendergrass "Where Did All the Lovin Go?" Philadelphia International
Indigenous Space People "Across the Universe" Future Vision

Only Child featuring Amp Fiddler - "Find A Way (Yam Who Remix)" -
Grand Central 12"
Leela James - "Music" - Warner Bros. 12"
Melba Moore - "Standing Right Here" - Buddah 12"
Imagination - "Changes (Larry Levan Remix)" - Unidisc 12"
Andrea True Connection - "Partyline" - Buddah 12"
Brenda and the Tabulations - "Let's Go All The Way (Down) [Danny
Krivit Re-Edit]" - Casablanca 12"
Mahogany - "Ride On The Rhythm" - West End 12"
Staple Singers - "Slippery People (Club Version)" - Private I 12"
Touch - "Without You" - SuperTronics 12"
Barbara Roy - "Gotta See You Tonight (Extended Dub Version)" - RCA/Victor 12"
B-52's - "Deep Sleep" - Warner Bros 12"
Reggie Dokes - "War of Decadence (Short Mix 1)" - Psychostasia 12"
Rick Wilhite - "Good Kiss" - 3 Chairs/Sound Signature 12"
Jive Rhythm Trax - "114 B.P.M." - Jive LP
Hugh Masekela - "The Boy's Doin' It (Carl Craig Remix)" - Verve 12"

Kid Creole & The Coconuts - "Yolanda" - Antilles
Karen Silver - "Nobody Else" - RFC
Warp 9 - "No Man Is An Island (Dub Version)" - Prism
Modern Romance - "By The Way... (Trumpet Voluntary)" - WEA
Janice Christie - "One Love (Dub I)" - SuperTronics
Suzi Lane - "Ooh, La, La" - Elektra
Vivian Lee - "Dub Is So Wonderful" - Jeffer Seif
Theo Parrish - SS-023 Side A - Sound Signature
Maurice Joshua - "Feel The Mood" - Serious
Bas Noir - "My Love Is Magic (Dub)" - Nu Groove
Omar-S - "Just Ask The Lonely" - FXHE
Theo Parrish - SS-023 Side D - Sound Signature

feel better now?

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 09:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

metro area are falling over themselves to play any "italo" record

Have you heard the unclassics CD?

As far as your list is concerned, I don't really get what you're getting at. You're saying these songs are all as good as what's in the cannon and the only reason people aren't playing them is because they're cheap records and not rare or expensive? Or DJs are lame because they like the songs that are in the cannon and shouldn't be playing them?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 09:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

carl plays from that largely straightforward cannon of italo hits, also not going out of his way to be esoteric for no reason.

Don't you think it's likely because of his influences? That initial cannon of italo hits were the italo records made popular by american DJs in the early/mid 80s, especially those that were actually released over here, and thus made it in. Fact is, DJs and kids getting into those sounds now are not aware of the cannon in the same way, it's all new, there's no difference between an italo record released on a NY electro/club label that became a big breakdance hit in the early 80s and some obscure weird italo record that only got popular because some dutch DJ started championing it 3 years ago.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 10:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am looking at those tracklists and, well, seems pretty par-for-the-beardo-course to me!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.myspace.com/louieaustenmusic

Louie Austen - Disco Dancer - is this choon "Beardo Disco"

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

what about this cracking track:

GUCCI SOUNDSYSTEM : aCarpenter
http://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=12858

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

you can check track lists of mixes ive made recently:

ysi?

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

in fact im saying that those tracks are mostly BETTER than alot of the commonly sought after "rare" italo jams that are around but dont get play or love from many people because theyre not rare and expensive. instead of people just playing good music (which is what metro area do when they deejay!), its turning into some kind of trainspotting record collector convention that happens in a night club. and first and foremost, i am into DANCE music! thats why i dont like this trend, its not about getting people to dance.

as for the unclassics mix, aside from that pluto and the humanoids 12", the records on unclassics are NOT the super rare and sought after ones! thats why i like the choices they made, they just picked good songs that arent massively hyped up by compilations or CBS or the cosmic/balearic type deejays. they went their own way!

as for the historical significance of what carl plays or what theo plays, thats one of the reasons i like what they do. they know why they play the things they play. and they do throw in some obscure joints that maybe not alot of people are going to know, but not for obscurity's sake, simply because theyre good songs.

another interesting thing has to do with the perception of what music was being played at the early house clubs. you see these comps with lots of italo and new wave and shit, and those were being played, but not as much as is hyped. check this:

http://www.woebot.com/twanboc_html/kirk.html

dont know if thats been discussed here before, but it just goes to show that the perception is not necessarily what the reality was. im not saying people should restrict themselves to what was played before, but i am saying that there is some revisionism going on here and i think that is part of what is leading people down this "obscure for obscurity's sake" path.

and i just cant agree that those selections are "par-for-the-beardo-course". there's no silly AM radio nonsense (beach boys, osmonds, etc), no hippie jams, none of that kind of thing. its "just" disco and house music.

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

First of all, it seems like what you do is no different then "obscurity for obscurity's sake". Seems like you go out of your way to avoid playing songs you see fit this criteria of not being in the cannon but also not being in the new cannon of obscure stuff, so you'll only play lesser known songs by known artists that you find cheap?

I just think you're judging some of these people for the wrong reasons. Half this thread is about how DJs who grew up listening to rock, who love the Beach Boys, who love rock, are excited to mix those aesthetics with their disco. To criticize them for not being "just" disco and house music is to hold them to a goal that may be your goal, but isn't theirs(or mine).

I read the kirk interview when it happened, and I've talked to Woebot and Simon Reynolds about those things. The reason a lot of DJs now are excited by the idea(l) of Chicago/Detroit being raised on italo and especially experimental electronic stuff from europe is because most of us probably come out of a new wave and industrial background anyway. Personally, as a white dude from the suburbs who wore a Throbbing Gristle patch on my jacket in high school, exploring Liasons Dangerous's impact on house/techno is going to make a lot of sense to me.

But it also doesn't take a lot of research to see that it's a valid thread. Hit deephousepage.com and check out all the Ron Hardy and WBMX stuff and there's plenty of italo and new wave stuff.

Look, MOST DJs, and most people, need to be told what's good, so they follow their leaders. It'll always be that way. I happen to like a lot of the beardo stuff so when something like Chilly's For Your Love enters the cannon and becomes an obvious track or whatever, that's good news for me, I get to hear it more often when I go out. But looking at your list, it doesn't seem like someone who genuinely likes the sound of of those rare italo records would ever prefer most of the stuff you're playing.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

said mixes are hosted here:

http://www.cornwarning.com/pipecock/ (the one starting with kid creole)

and here:

http://www.cornwarning.com/tomcox/

(severe thunderstorms is the one that starts with only child, the bleep43 mix has 1 hour by toby frith (good stuff, soundtracky electro type stuff) before my hour which begins with the mandrill jam)

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

nah, the stuff i play was not necessarily "obscure", they might not have been the biggest hits by those artists but they were still widely played by many deejays. the fact is, if you go by what alot of people are playing today, theyre either playing stuff so obscure that NO ONE was playing it at the time (alot of the local stuff like p+p related stuff falls into this category, they just werent out there all that much, same with much of the super rare italo stuff) or stuff that is so typical of whatever deejay theyre biting directly from that they miss the other 300,000 or whatever disco records that were out there and played by many deejays in many cities. if you look at the wax poetics with the Beatdown interview, their charts are what im talking about. you see some of the typical "classics" but they mention other records that just have no popularity because theyre not associated with CBS or Harvey or whomever else its popular to bite from. there's such a huge number of records out there and while there are tons of wack ones, theres tons of good stuff thats just overlooked. id also like to point out that when i choose the jams for my mixes, i like to pick things that are not over represented in other mixes. when i play live, i drop the originals of some of the unclassics records, i play the typical underground disco "hits", i play over many styles and genres. im not afraid to play the "typical" records that are good!

as for the BMX mixes, when i hear them i hear house music much less than when i hear hardy mixes. the logical continuation of what hardy was doing was the early chicago records, im not sure there WAS a logical continuation of the BMX style sets. sure they had some influence on the sound, but not like hardy's looped up and tracky aesthetic which basically went on to define house.

as for whether people who really love italo would like what im doing, i guess i cant really say. certainly i play stuff that is far less cheesy and over the top for the most part, so if thats the aesthetic that appeals to them the most, i guess they wouldnt dig it!

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

i just want to know what are these super-rare tracks supposedly hyped by harvey, et al ... aside from the logic system / severed heads revival, but they weren't really super-obscure to begin with?

double? cat gang? clive stevens & brainchild?

ok, but these groups had great one-off tracks and are they really any more or less obscure than omar s or suzi lane or karen silver?

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think you are just grumpy about losing the obscure records arms race! their hype is bigger than my hype, i am going to kvetch about it.

pipecock - 20-Apr-05 02:40 AM
Omar-S is the latest man of mystery from Detroit. His records are low key minimal dirty house music, usually issued only on white label with handwritten info. His love for the music is quite evident from the deep emotional tracks he writes. His music is indebted to tracky Chicago house, dirty Detroit house, and of course Detroit techno. The release of the vinyl of his "Just Ask The Lonely" album is sure to catapault him into the same revered air as Theo Parrish and Kenny Dixon Jr. For me he's already there: I buy double copies of every release he has without listening to them first. Thats some of the highest praise I can give to any artist. I've never been disappointed....

i mean, come on man! sounds like your fingers are pretty dusty, too!!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

first and foremost, i am into DANCE music! thats why i dont like this trend, its not about getting people to dance.

Dan already brought up the fact that your goals as a DJ may be different from other people's, but piggybacking on that: Is it so worng to want to use two turntables and some records for purposes other than moving bodies? I like dancing and playing to a full dancefloor as much as the next DJ, but music can do other things.

― researching ur life (grady), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

first and foremost, i am into DANCE music! thats why i dont like this trend, its not about getting people to dance

i really want a mobile wedding/event DJ w/ a caselogic full of burned top 40 tracks (usher, chris brown, jt, lil jon, etc) to come on this thread and start sneering at your "dancey" selections.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyway, welcome to ILX, where everything is a continuum, soon enough someone will come on this thread and be like "my name is chuck eddy and i think kiss and the rolling stones and big & rich are better and easier to dance to than theo parrish and moodymann and the rest of your hyped-for-the-sake-of-obscurity record snob shit" and you'll say he's wrong and he'll say you're wrong and my lovely thread is STILL derailed.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

also if you re-read the thread carefully, we already talked about crate-digging and obscurity for it's own sake, and not being dancey enough, and fakeness, and theo parrish already!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'm glad you're not affraid to play the "typical" records. I was going to say that for someone mostly concerned with getting people to dance, your set was suspicially missing any song that a normal person would actually recognize.

But my understanding re BMX and Hardy...some of those Hardy mixes from the early 80s are straigh up no different from Knuckles, classic disco, deep house, but within a few years he's definitely playing the earliest tapes of the serious new "house" records, but to be honest, it still sounds to me like those artists wanted to sound more like Electra, New Order, Gaz Nevada etc, then the philly/NY disco. Perhaps that's just due to the house music I gravitate towards, which is the New Waviest of the time. The BMX mixes I love, particularly Mickey Mixin' Oliver's, are where there's a great mix of early house, UK new wave, italo-disco, and then current top 40 hits. But maybe he's the "whitest" of the hot-mix 5, and maybe that's why I like him(using your terminology, I usually try to avoid equating funky music with black people and electronic pop with white people in public).

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

"double? cat gang? clive stevens & brainchild?"

and ginny, john forde, etc. plus all the hype behind the black cock stuff and idjut stuff that just isnt that good.

and hell yeah, i dig for my shit. but ive passed on "rare" records because i dont like them, many times in fact. what im irritated with in fact is that these guys are taking the easy way out by just playing stuff that is rare instead of stuff that is rare and really good. really, anyone can take some $$$ and go to a dealer (and i know harvey and the idjuts buy from dealers, ive seen the dealers mentioning so on DJH) and buy their most expensive rare records and then play them. again, the parallel to what has happened in funk/rare groove digging is really obvious to me, where its just becoming about who has something that NO ONE ELSE has. its exactly the same attitude as jungle and dubstep and whatnot use in "exclusivity", and its something that turns me off. in the end it should all be about the music, and i feel like in this case it's not.

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

i dont think there's a problem with noting the culture of origin of music, all of that kind of stuff is very important in understanding music!

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

so it's so objectively clear that all those songs are just NO GOOD? That's the main part of your argument that's the most annoying. Mystery Man or whatever, that's not your scene, fine, but some of us really love that song and I don't think I should have to justify my interest in it, you know, to make sure you don't think I mindlessly ape Cosmic playlists only because somebody told me they were cool! Give us some credit ok?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

it might not be the case for *you*, but come on, in all honesty how many people do you think were checking Osmonds records 2 years ago? the answer: zero. shit, i bet that without that track having been played by anyone, 99.9% of people youd play it for who are into that would have dissed it.

― pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

what I'm keep saying is like, in all genres of music, 99% of EVERYONE is a total hater untill someone makes it cool for them. It's just the way it is. Do you remember a time when you got laughed at for playing disco? For playing house or techno? For playing hi-nrg? (wait a sec...) It's all about the audience. Italians who went to Cosmic probably never thought Ginny was shit. And lots of DJs never would have heard it if it wasn't for some playlist or some DJ. There's no way to test whether they would've liked it even if Harvey didn't. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying it's kind of a given and it's not a big deal and it doesn't make it right to assume that everyone who likes those records is a lemming. Many times I've just stumbled upon some record I'd never heard of and started playing it because I liked it and a year later I realize Hardy used to play or a year later someone does an edit of it and bootlegs it and suddenly everyone's playing it. Am I supposed to stop playing it? Stop liking it? Should I call all those DJs names?

And for the record, hipster rock nerds have been talking about the Osmonds for a few years before the hipster disco nerds.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

my money is on pipecock being an alias of vahid

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

evidence: consecutive posts and the "quote" thing

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

the Lexx 12" on Bear Funk= teh yes.

― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

im all over the web as "pipecock" btw, DJH, DHP, littledetroit, disception, detroitluv, livejournal, and more. real name thomas cox, used on the 313 mailing list as well as many others over the years (breaks, forward bound, etc etc).

see, one of the main reasons i like the house/disco/techno/electro "scenes" (for lack of a better word) is their continuity. people have continually done these things and at the end of the day, you can mix up all these parts from over the years and it all still makes sense. its these little over hyped hipster cults that form around any given music (dubstep was killing me for a while since no one cared when that shit was being born!) that irritates the shit out of me. there has been hype around good music, and bad. but no music has ever truly benefitted from it. and i feel like this one is indeed one that is just way overblown already......

BTW, i did like alot of the selections on your boy's "italians do it better" blog, some nice shit on there (like that starbow 12") that isnt way overhyped but is still really good.

― pipecock (pipecock), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

I remember when they came out I saw some DJ at Botanica using it and I was like "hey, that's a great comp" and he was like "I have all the original 12"s at home". That's like the DJ's pledge "I may play from a comp, but I have all the original 12"s at home".

-- Dan Selzer (danselze...) (webmail), September 15th, 2006 2:19 PM. (Dan Selzer) (link)

i drop the originals of some of the unclassics records

-- pipecock (twelve.bi...) (webmail), Today 3:08 PM. (pipecock) (later) (link)

lol, DJs

― songs and ballads of the bituminous miners (sanskrit), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

you'll say he's wrong and he'll say you're wrong and my lovely thread is STILL derailed

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeeeeeesh crack a window guys

― am0n (am0n), Monday, 20 November 2006 03:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

people sweating a track because a big name played it is as old as DJing and has little to do with what we talk about on this thread.

― researching ur life (grady), Monday, 20 November 2006 04:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

BTW, i did like alot of the selections on your boy's "italians do it better" blog, some nice shit on there (like that starbow 12") that isnt way overhyped but is still really good.

mike's a good example of someone who doesn't pay much attention to the cannon. While everyone else is studying djhistory threads and buying bootleg edit comps, he's going to secret record spots, buying nameless records in bulk and playing the ones he likes.

I do that sometimes as well, but like, you have to have the time and money to go digging. The rest of the time someone props something on the internet, you check it out, and you buy the bootleg like all the other suckers.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 20 November 2006 05:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

alright, i'm gonna fuck the thread title here and say that the new Idjut Boys 12" is great.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

which one?

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

smokin balls. new-ish.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think that's actually a re-press from an early 06 release. did anyone like thier press play mix?

and how do people rate the newer tirk releases?

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Picked up the Elaste compilation over Christmas, and I am madly in love with the Logic System, Love International and Memory Control 1 (a DJ Loda sideproject) tracks. Is there any good reason why the only Logic System stuff currently in print is a heavily copy-protected, Japanese import greatest hits album? Because "Clash (Chinjyu of Sun)" (also on the Kaos & Sal P. mix) is fucking incredible, Lindstrom twenty years before Lindstrom.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and who are Eloy and why hadn't I heard of them before? Damn.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

"clash" is on the sarcastic vynil bootleg.

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Telephonething did you ever hear Reverso 68's remix of Manhead's "Doop"? It's heavily based on "Clash (Chinjyu of Sun)" and is great despite its open derivativeness.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

eloy = 70's / 80's german progsters.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

(i am not sufficiently informed about Idjut Boys. i don't really give a shit though, cuz it's a re-release)

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was just wondering if there was a new one i didn't know about.

― mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

anybody know how the sound quality is on that sarcastic vinyl bootleg?

― gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

go now to djsanonymous.org and listen to the mixes by q-burns abstract message and dj julian. so damn good!!

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 7 January 2007 00:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

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carl craig + lindstrom also

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

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― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

FUCK ME WHY IS I NOT IN SAN FRANDISKO

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

"clash" is on the sarcastic vynil bootleg.

unfortunately, it's 33rpm so you can't pitch it down enough for maximum deep vibes

― gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lovefingers is DJing at Jeremy's movie night tonight...

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― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

that lindstrom show is going to be nuts

― Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

underdog edits box

― slackety yax (H2-H4), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

my best friend Ben from LA usually makes a cdr of his favorite tracks of the year and sends them to friends. this year he mixed it and it's pretty amazing.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/w2az2f

1. Bill Cosby "Yes, Yes, Yes"
2. JDilla "Workinonit"
3. Brennan Green "Divisadero"
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5. Bama the Village Poet "Social Narcotics"
6. Norman Griscombe, Jr. "Get Up & Dance"
7. Serious Intention "You Don't Know RMX"
8. Vicky 'D' "This Beat Is Mine"
9. Plastic Mode "Baja Imperial"
10. LCD Soundsystem "Too Much Love"
11. Arturo Benavides "Muchacha"
12. Brennan Green "Little Ease (Lindstrom & Prins
Thomas RMX)"
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14. Spank Rock "Rick Rubin (inst.)"
15. Groupo Sta. Cecilia "Africa Bump"
16. JDilla "Won't Do"
17. Eurythmics "Aqua"
18. Glorious Strangers "Deception"
19. Chicago "I'm A Man (Rub-N-Tug Re-edit)"
20. Goldfrapp "Slide In (DFA RMX Inst.)"
21. LEM "I Wonder"
22. Womb "Peace"
23. Brennan Green "900lb Man"
24. James T. Cotton "My Zel"
25. Frank N. Dank "Push (Inst.)"
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― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 18 January 2007 23:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

you guys should check out the new teki latex tracks on discobelle.

― groovemaan (groove nihilist), Sunday, 21 January 2007 15:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyone have that new elaste comp on compost?

I am enjoying it.

For some reason I never got around to listening to that dj harvey mix and it is AWESOME.

― hector (hector), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yes! The Elaste comp is fantastic. Hoping there will be more installments, as the "volume 1" seems to imply.

Also, Whatever We Want's website has updated, but still has no info beyond "Prerelease Spring 2007."

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm pretty sure that owl necklace on their homepage can be bought at urban outfitters.

― jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know if the LP version of Gruble differs from the CD version? Fewer tracks? More tracks?

― Foolish Beat (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 4 February 2007 01:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah ... LP is missing "we don't care" and "mike's tears"

did anybody ever ID all the tracks on "gruble"? i only know the easy ones

"we don't care" = ?
"lasagne for 10" = chilly "for your love"
"size doesn't matter" = tina turner "whole lotta love"
"eat the jeans" = ?
"staying noid" = richard ace "staying alive"
"backwards is the best way forward" = gloria gaynor "if you want it"
"satchel on my doorstep" - roxy music "the main thing"
"your wistful sigh" = ?
"love ranger" = ?
"mike's tears" = ?

according to someone at djhistory.com one of them is george duke ("eat them jeans"?), one is the earons, one is bootsy collins ("love ranger"?) and one is invisible man's band. since i've never heard the earons or the invisible man's band i have no idea which ...

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ihave an earons 12" called 'land of hunger'. Youtube it. It's great.

― jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, reminds me of much of mad max / children of men

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

i don't think any of them are "land of hunger" though

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

btw that gaynor reedit is the shit

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

who is going to rx gallery on the 9th?

― gaseous (gaseous), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

i don't have any disco friends in sf

― gaseous (gaseous), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

rx gallery? you mean mezzanine?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

YES! that's why i got confused when i went to their site

― gaseous (gaseous), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

what is that Phantom Slasher record? something idjut related? i saw it in the store but it was like 20$ for a cd so i passed. is it just a mix?

i won't be going to carl craig. mom's is in town.

the following night at RX is actually (supposed) to be a disco night, but when i went, it was mostly house

― jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 5 February 2007 07:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

phantom slasher is disco reedits by the idjut boys. not a mix. the tracks are pretty heavily reworked. heavier than re-edits actually - they've added lots of instrumentation. like on the chilly track they add guitar solos, huge 808 bass explosions, extra 4/4 drums and so on.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 07:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also, Whatever We Want's website has updated, but still has no info beyond "Prerelease Spring 2007."

that site's metadata tells us more than what it actually displays.. i hate those sort of deliberately obtuse sites:

meta name="description" content="Whatever we want records, an independent, brooklyn based label for forward thinking artists pushing their craft. vinyl record releases include map of africa, bobbie marie, godsy, quiet village project,otterman empire. future releases by the naturals, and the venice arkestra. Info at whateverwewantrecords dot com"

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― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 8 February 2007 04:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

jaxon, let's do something together. i think we're on the same page. if you're bored tonight ... there's this:

― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 04:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

anyone have that new elaste comp on compost?

i just grabbed it. i like it, but don't LOVE it. they play some of the songs at their original speed and it sounds wicked weird. especially that Logic System track. i think there's talk upthread about that song not sounding right at 45.

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 8 February 2007 04:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's weird since the comp is called "slow motion disco" and then there's these few tracks which are not slowed down like they would have been in the clubs the comp is supposedly a tribute to! i guess the elaste 12" with clash is 45 so it can be pitched down to "optimum" tempo.

the vocals on some of these tracks are... yikes...

― gaseous (gaseous), Thursday, 8 February 2007 07:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Surprised the Elaste comp didn't have "Can't Be Serious" on it, or "Time Actor."

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 8 February 2007 07:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

there's a 'version' of Time Actor on the bside of that Richard Wahnfried album that has Arthur Brown (i think) singing instead of just talking. i almost think it's better.

― jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 8 February 2007 07:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

dudes ...

i hate to say it, but this track is much better than i expected. in fact, i really dig it.

Junior Boys - "FM (Ten Snake)"

― Cameron Octigan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard it, but why'd you expect not to like it? The JBs side or the Ten Snake side? I'm supposing it's the Ten Snake, but I loved "Around the House." Not you?

― matt2, Thursday, 8 March 2007 03:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dan Selzer, have you heard this: http://www.discogs.com/release/925638

Pretty funny/bizarre/goofy collection of covers in old school, late 70s/early 80s DIY synth style, though the 2nd track on side b could actually work in a beardo set, I think

― Dominique, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

nope. Wonder if Woebot has.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

dominique, that description, sounds like the Baby Buddha record i just found. minimal synth covers of old country songs http://www.discogs.com/release/289791

― jaxon, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Baby Buddha is David Microwave, the main man behond Los Microwaves, highly recommendable fun LA synth-punk pop type stuff from the early 80s.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

the dottores kranky disco band mentioned above was put together by mooner from munich (he recently compiled that 'elaste' cosmic comp on compost).

though the 2nd track on side b could actually work in a beardo set

ha ha! i did that.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey cool!

― Dominique, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

ps - they got it wrong on discogs. the crass track is actually "walls (fun in the oven)"

― stirmonster, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

"we don't care" = ?
"lasagne for 10" = chilly "for your love"
"size doesn't matter" = tina turner "whole lotta love"
"eat the jeans" = earons (which track?)
"staying noid" = richard ace "staying alive"
"backwards is the best way forward" = gloria gaynor "if you want it"
"satchel on my doorstep" - roxy music "the main thing"
"your wistful sigh" = bootsy (but which track?)
"love ranger" = george duke (which track?)
"mike's tears" = ?

the first track sounds like an original production, the last one more like a reedit?

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 15 March 2007 22:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was wondering what on earth that record was when they were playing it at the local record shoppe.

― haitch, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

(re the dottores kranky disco band thing)

― haitch, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

a year or two late, but what did we all think of chicken lips' "making faces"? i can't find the thread that jaxon (???) started, but i finally got it and i'm not sure what to think. already wishing i'd bought the japanese version with the dancey dubs on the end ...

i'm not sure where it falls on the spectrum from chromeo (wack) -----> scissor sisters (hott)

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 18 March 2007 06:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

i honestly never fell in love with it. it had a nice idea (sorta soft rock disco) but couldn't pull it off with great songs. Peter Brown is a great example of this working.

the other night a local SF group opened for Fujiya & Miyagi called Sugar & Gold (http://www.myspace.com/sugarandgold). wasn't too stoked on them. definitely pulling the soft rock disco (sounded like Player) but a bit too soft and a bit too gay (there was a dude dancing on stage the whole night with a Kermit the Frog mask on and barely any clothes. really ruined the show). kinda reminded me of Scissor Sisters

― jaxon, Sunday, 18 March 2007 06:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

i thought 3 or 4 of the songs were pretty decent

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 18 March 2007 06:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.dreamchimney.com/tracks/15415

sakamoto w/ vocals from robert wyatt and brian wilson

― dan selzer, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

sunday = beardo chill time

― artdamages, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

ALAN PARSONS PROJECT: S/D (beardo edition)

should i just grab the best-of? it seems like only the instrumental tracks really match the vibe.

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

is the end of that track clipped for anyone else?

― artdamages, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

this is very cool. haven't listened to it for a while. i think i'd agree w/you re: vocals.

― artdamages, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

ah fuckin discogs. i forgot.

― artdamages, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

the cover is fantastic.

― artdamages, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

this one seems like all you'll ever need

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

compare with this cover art

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

how dare you

― artdamages, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Equip - XXXO
http://www.discogs.com/release/861406

This track is pure orgasmic one of the finest tracks i have ever listened to in my life. A true lost classic - a spacey electro track from the 1980s that was just released on 12" vinyl in December 2006

produced by DJ Greg Wilson

massive pulsating synths !, drum machines, futuristic spacey-electro music that grooves and flows

This blog has a link to a download: JUST DO IT NOW !

20jazzfunkgreats.blogspot.com
http://20jazzfunkgreats.blogspot.com/2007/02/i-bet-that-buck-rogers-looks-good-on.html
see reference to:
Equip- XXXO (Manchester England 1983)

― djmartian, Sunday, 18 March 2007 20:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Greg played that for me and my then co-alldisco djs in his hotel room when he came to ny last year. Awesome.

― dan selzer, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

new Kathy Diamond record (produced by Maurice Fulton) seems tailor made for this thread

― Dominique, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

i bought that Equip record at Halcyon right around christmas-- been blowing me away ever since. it's a fantastic track to use to bring out more house and techno, coming from disco...

― the table is the table, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

great recommendation, dom. lovin' it

― The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 24 March 2007 17:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

agh so mad i missed that sakamoto/wilson thing

― strongohulkington, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

look on noise board

― dmr, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

what's the story w/maurice fulton's myspace? it has this as it's tagline: "U Have Tigersushi, You Will NOT Be Added"

― jaxon, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

former label beef i assume

― strongohulkington, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

wasn't there a mu track that ripped into tigersushi?

― strongohulkington, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

longstanding record label beef

see Mu's "Tigerbastard" etc.

there's a thread where people talk about it, I'll try to find it

― dmr, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol xposts

― dmr, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think stirmonster talks about it on this thread.

basically, his beef isnt with joakim, its with the guy who handled the business side of things.

― g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

marissa's beef is with joachim.

― g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

seems like fulton's going a little overboard with the beef since the shit happened years ago and the guy in question doesn't work for the label anymore

― dmr, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

ok, so its not on this thread.

fwiw, i added MF while having Tigersushi as a friend.

― g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

playing w/ fire

― dmr, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

an unreleased Quiet Village mix of Massive Attack,

has anyone heard this? any good?

― the table is the table, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 23:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

an unreleased Quiet Village mix of Massive Attack

!!

― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 23:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

ya srsly want to hear.

― the table is the table, Thursday, 29 March 2007 00:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

the quiet village toby tobias is pretty cool

http://www.discogs.com/release/890884

not very beardo really

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 00:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^^i like that one. not crazy about the gorillaz remix.

I am loving all the new Rong stuff. thier website may never come to be but the recent stuff is really great, if not really that beardo. Tim Sweeney played what I assume is a forthcoming Lee Douglas track on his show last week that sounds great. Deep and disco-ey like the last one.

I think Rong should get its own thread.

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 29 March 2007 00:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Rong 2cd comp is pretty solid.

Quiet Village remixes are becoming increasingly samey tempo/texture wise, although I guess the quality control hasn't dipped so much. I think I still prefer their "original" material at the moment.

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 01:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

they might be samey, but the tempo/texture is so lush & good that i don't really care. i think that this quality can be attributed to lots of DJs' and producers' remixes... i've almost never heard a Carl Craig remix that i couldn't tell was a CC remix pretty quickly, but for the most part they're good. yknow?

― the table is the table, Thursday, 29 March 2007 02:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

my housemate pointed out that the drums in the quiet village mix of ''DAVE'S SEX BITS sound like 'africa' by toto.

― haitch, Thursday, 29 March 2007 02:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol at the weirdo re-edit of "Walk The Night" over at http://www.keyboardmasher.com/

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 03:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

funny that site doesnt have lovefingers or bumrocks on its links page.

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 29 March 2007 05:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

don't forget dream chimney

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 05:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

or http://www.robotsinheat.com ;-)

― jaxon, Thursday, 29 March 2007 06:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

wow, that edit is really retarded

― jaxon, Thursday, 29 March 2007 06:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

I should send him/her my re-edit of "wheel my out" where I loop the first 2 bars over and over.

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 06:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

funny grady...just emailed the same comment to michael before seeing this here.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

that johnny mathis disco track on robotsinheat sort of exemplifies a lot of music on these cosmic/easy pop/disco blogs, taking those one or two bizarro piece from well known artists catalogue and giving it some new cratedigger life.

here's an imaginary mixtape i would make out of this kind of stuff:

paul mccartney - temporary secretary
paul mccartney - let 'em in
johnny mathis - gone gone gone
something from chubby checker's psych record
osmonds - i, i, i
the who - eminence front
alan parsons - mammagamma
greg kihn - jeopardy (instrumental)
cat stevens - was dog a doughnut?
frankie valli - beggin'
neil young - computer age

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

there's a really good "d-i-r-t-y edits" of beggin'

by these guys from France ... they've done a bunch of cool ones

http://www.d-i-r-t-y.com/edits.html

the most recent jj cale is good too

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 14:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22924

― dan selzer, Thursday, 29 March 2007 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

this kathy diamond is pretty great

― deej, Thursday, 29 March 2007 15:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

― jaxon, Thursday, 29 March 2007 17:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

Re: "I think Rong should get its own thread."

Vahid here http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=51350:

"the tussle+dj spun/BC connection is that there are more interesting things going on w/ dub vs electronic music these days than basic channel. i just wanted to get that out there, but if i were to start a thread on west coast house = I GET NO HITS, so i troll these threads."

vahid (vahid) on Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:55 (1 month ago)

Looks like now's your chance. I'd be interested, as all the Rong I've heard is Lee Douglas and Tussle, but I love 'em both.

― matt2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

"all the Rong I've heard is Lee Douglas and Tussle"

the How + Why edits are cool
no idea what the originals of those are

also the NY House'n Authority record which I think is a reissue b/w a remix

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

Thanks. I'll be sure to check those out.

― matt2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

I believe all the Tu Rong stuff are Nu Groove reissues

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

― jaxon, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

I believe all the Tu Rong stuff are Nu Groove reissues

This is indeed the case.

Sort of off-topic, but this is really the only active thread that's even a remotely appropriate place to ask: GAMM re-edits, any good? There's a CD out now and I'm tempted to pick it up and see what the fuss is about.

― Telephone thing, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

did you guys know chic produced an album for johnny mathis

― deej, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

apparently languishing in the vaults : (

― deej, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

GAMM re-edits, any good?

I've only heard a couple ... they're okay but a little too cocktail-lounge for me .... more of a jazzy broken-beat type thing

I'm talking about the stuff like Red Astaire "Follow Me" which is a jazz xylophone + hard drum loop with Method Man over the top. not sure if that's what you're asking about.

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

a ny thing is putting out rub&tug tshirts. i want!

― jaxon, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol I thought you hated that mix

maybe they can customize yours with "HI I LISTEN TO BEPPE LODA TOO" printed on the back!

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

gamm is EXCELLENT ... but yeah, it's broken beat, so your mileage is going to vary. i wouldn't call it "cocktail" / "loungey" because then people are going to think of combustible edison!!

think mf doom or pete rock type dusty jazz loops but with a dancier sensibility (it's basically post-post-post-acid jazz dance, they even do a pharoah sanders cover!)

and "follow me" is like total destruction on the dancefloor and mega-addictive on the iPod. you must truly hate fun if you don't enjoy this!

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

in nyc if broken beat is on, people are generally hanging out drinking, not destroying the dancefloor ... at least in my experience

that's all i meant by cocktail lounge

"follow me" is a cool song but I never felt the need to start collecting GAMM records

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

ahh what do i know, those are prolly peak-time records at Nublu or whatever

I'm just not as into it as other stuff

― dmr, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

I believe all the Tu Rong stuff are Nu Groove reissues

Michael F Gill on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:49 AM (1 hour ago)

Yeah, but some have new remixes from people like Spun, Brennan Green, Ray Mang Etc. I really like the 33 1/3 Queen release.

The last few Rong releases have gone into some really different territory, like soul/hip hop/downtempo/80's electro sounding stuff. Also, the label art is getting waaaaaaay more hott:

VS.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like a few of the Gamm releases I've heard. The Tangoterje/Michael Jackson one kind of fits into the disco edit/nu disco/beardo sound, but most of that CD doesn't. dmr is right, its mostly jazzy broken beat cocktail music, but if I have to listen to jazzy broken beat stuff, Gamm is quality. For being grey-erea unnoficcial edits/remixes, they sound great. I think there was a D'Angelo one I really liked, too. But again, not really beardo/nu-disco; maybe in a Henrik Swartz set.

The 2nd newest Gamm release, Beatconductor (aka Beatfanatic aka Discoconductor aka Jazzconductor) "Balearic Boogie" remix of Vengalis' "Let It Happen" comes close. It sounds great on a big system. I've been playing it a lot lately. But again, it kind of falls into that area where you could be listening to 90's big beat/ Zero 7.

― recspecs, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

me, in huge xpost^^^^^^^

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol I thought you hated that mix
maybe they can customize yours with "HI I LISTEN TO BEPPE LODA TOO" printed on the back!

no way, i thought it was great. i think i was just joshin on whoever said the mix was totally groundbreaking unheard of. also the design is super sick

― jaxon, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

the most recent jj cale is good too

yeah to that...

― the table is the table, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

GLISSANDRO 70

was there not a thread on this somewhere?!?!?

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's the missing link between QUIET VILLAGE and BLACK DICE

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

actually it's not very quiet village at all, i just threw that out there ... how about

missing link between PRINS THOMAS and BLACK DICE

it is *very* black dice

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

I am interested...

Awesome record sleeve, as well:

― Telephone thing, Friday, 30 March 2007 04:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

was there something about this in the sandbox? it has definitely been talked about, i remember ppl commenting on the cover jacking the generic west end 12" sleeve:

― haitch, Friday, 30 March 2007 04:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha xpost!

― haitch, Friday, 30 March 2007 04:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

lfam started a thread in the sandbox but the title was something vague and i cant find it now.

ive only heard "Analogue Shantytown" but i like it. how is the rest of it?

― g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 30 March 2007 05:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

the singing is pretty bad (muppet voices) but once you get past that, it's really nice. it sort of divvies up into tracks 1/2/3 and 4/5. the 2nd half is AWESOME, long-form black-dice-go-disco drum circle + delay experiments.

the first three tracks (opener, "analogue shantytown" and "bolan muppets") are pretty, and sort of hit the arthur russel "another thought" vibe.

it's nice! not mindblowing, but nice!

if they found a collaborator with more of an instinct for DAHNCE they'd be killing it.

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 March 2007 14:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

So uh "Follow Me" - how did random swedish producer dude get Red and Meth collab in 2007? Or is this some old acapella i should recognize and don't.

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 14:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

This song is great btw

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 14:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

it's an unofficial remix / bootleg.

― stirmonster, Friday, 30 March 2007 14:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's some acappella, I don't know which song

Follow Me has been around at least a couple of years, maybe 2004? ... pretty much the most well known/popular gamm track afaik

― dmr, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

Craig D. from glissandro did a really good beardo type mix (similar tracks to what Michael posited above actually) for the d-i-r-t-y dudes' other blog a while ago (alainfinkelkraut)

― dmr, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh ok i'm just totally not up on things...i figured it was new-ish since he's still got it playing on his myspace

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

You all probably knew this, but one of the Glissandro 70 guys is Sandro Perri aka Polmo Polpo aka they guy who did the 21:30 remake of "Kiss Me Again."

― matt2, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

either Craig D or Sandro lurks and occasionally posts on noize board

― jaxon, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm kinda torn on that kathy diamond. i really like it, the music's really great and some of the textures are fab, but every once in a while, and maybe it's her voice, i feel like i'm listening to some mid 90s trip hop. kruder or zero 7 type stuff.

jaxon on Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:07 PM (Yesterday)

I don't get this, but it does make me think of the Tynan-electrosoul thread, which is a little :-/

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

let's just admit (and move on) - a lot of this stuff IS the 00s extension of trip hop / big beat (didn't i beat that dead horse upthread)

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

BTW it's the acapella from d'angelo ft redman + method man - "left and right"

learn to use google search people

gamm is funny because it's really on the OTHER side of the fence ... they're not so much a DISCO EDIT label, as they are a HIP-HOP EDIT label (aka a BLENDS label) a la AV8 (think CROOKLYN CLAN) ... they're like the euro, upscale, non-gully crooklyn clan (but that's OK)

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh man thats stunningly obvious

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

my excuse is the new beat was too next level for me to bother recognizing the verses

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

And that I pretend to listen to voodoo but really just listen to brown sugar

― deej, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

voodoo is SO much better than brown sugar!!

oh man i dunno what half the stuff rub n tug played tonight was, but it was amazing.

― haitch, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

finally got to it, that Johnny Mathis track is hot! While aesthetically it fits beardo it does so because it's good disco, not because of the wtf? factor. If it's beardo it's because disco purists and boring DJs stick to the canon and would likely miss something like this, and regardless of whether the first person to start rocking that track was doing so with a wink or not, it stands on it's own as kitsch-free grade a(or at least b) disco.

― dan selzer, Saturday, 31 March 2007 05:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

the glissandro thread is actually on reg-ilx: this band is on constellation but their record cover looks like a west end sleeve and they quote "no ufos"

― lfam, Saturday, 31 March 2007 05:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

test

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=55700

― lfam, Saturday, 31 March 2007 05:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

my conclusion was that the no ufos cover was pretty awesome but that sort of drum-circly talk talk inspired stuff is just not where i'm at

― lfam, Saturday, 31 March 2007 05:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

credit where credit is due, jed sent me that Johnny Mathis track.

― jaxon, Saturday, 31 March 2007 09:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

holy shit, look how sweet the new lee douglas is going to look:

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 2 April 2007 23:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

would that be considered a "reedit" of the virgin sleeves?

― jaxon, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 01:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

I know there's an Escort thread somewhere, but I cant find it. This is on thier myspace blog:

Escort 004 is done -- "All Through The Night". We're really excited about this one. And it's backed with a great -- almost B-more club themed -- remix by The Rapture. Expect it out in early May. It's gonna be the last new Escort for a while--intend to hibernate while we work on the LP. More details as the release date approaches. Although this summer we'll release some great remixes of the first four twelves that we'll be releasing while we finish the LP (Greg Wilson already did a sick re-edit of Starlight and Rub-N-Tug are working on a remix of Karawane.)

Knowing there's a Greg Wilson Re-Edit of "Starlight" is exciting.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 02:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

escort are fantastic.

― haitch, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 04:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

That Lee Douglas is very exciting and so is the news about Escort.

― matt2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 04:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

lee douglas was bringin' some nice edits on beats in space last week.

― haitch, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 05:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hot damn! A visit to Lee Douglas's myspace reveals that "New York Story" may be his best yet.

― matt2, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 15:32 (6 years ago) Permalink

cool designs. I guess I fell behind on Rong, I haven't seen hardly any of those new-looking ones that grady posted.

I did download the lee douglas beats in space for my ipod tho!

― dmr, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Doug Lee's a talented illustrator/designer...really good at the sort of faux-airbrush stuff. He did the XLR8R issue dedicated to NY w/ James Murphy and Justine D. on the cover (and Acute Records on the inside) if anyone remembers that.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Swedish electro

Naked Ape
http://www.myspace.com/nakedapesweden

― djmartian, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 18:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dan-

Is it the same guy doing all of the new Rong labels?

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I don't know, but it looks like that Doug Lee label is his own work, the work of his I've seen looks similar to that. On closer inspection, he gets design credit on his own label, so check the others I suppose.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 20:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Jerry's in Pittsburgh yielded these:

JJ Cale- Troubadour
Taana Gardner- Heartbeat 12"
Kurtis Blow- The Breaks 12"
New Edition- Mr. Telephone Man b/w Delicious 12"
Canto Azul- Resolution 12" (aka Faze Action)
MFSB- Love is the Message
Blowfly- Rapp Dirty/Blowfly's Rapp 12"
Bohannon- Bohannon (The Mighty)
Vangelis- Opera Sauvage
Vangelis- Spiral

and some of the Dan, and Sergio Mendes. see you world.!

― the table is the table, Sunday, 8 April 2007 02:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

new comp i heard about on djh. pretty fucking great. http://www.sonarkollektiv.com/releases/SK140CD/

the will powers is either an instrumental or edit. still pretty cool, but the lyrics on the original are pretty silly.

Computer Incantations For World Peace
Tim Toum - Codek
18. Novembar - Propaganda
Garden Of Life - Special Touch
I Need Somebody To Love Tonight - Sylvester
Aeo (Pt.1 & 2) - Brian Briggs
Adventures In Success - Will Powers
Closer - Codek
Stargazer - Ray Barretto
Courage - Talking Drums
Reach The Beach - The Fixx
Heartbeat - Colored Music
Computer Incantations For World Peace - Jean-Luc Ponty
Mastoul Alakefak - Aksak Maboul

― jaxon, Monday, 9 April 2007 18:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

>I Need Somebody To Love Tonight - Sylvester

this is so so so so kick ass. i'm told it's an edit that was only available on UK 12". all the copies i see of the EP that this is on include the vocal (which isn't that bad, but i prefer the instrumental)

― BATTAGS, Monday, 9 April 2007 18:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

the track jon posted in the tim goldsworthy thread is quite cosmic in its own way

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 9 April 2007 18:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

what's with people hating on disco vocals? LOOVVVE the sylvester vox. i think the thing that's lacking in the supposed new disco-y house-y stuff is decent vocals and performances. girls and guys with chops. where are they? singing pop rnb? at least gimme SOMETHING, even girlish fun vocals a la italo stuff like "feels good" or something you'd find on an august darnell record. it's like that vibe has disappeared from today's productions. i want it back.

― jaime, Monday, 9 April 2007 20:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

What about Escort? Lady can sing, that's for goddamn sure.

― Telephone thing, Monday, 9 April 2007 22:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

seconded, the Escort vocalist is excellent.

for the record, i adore soul/r&b/disco vocals. i don't think i'm 'hating'.

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 00:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

i use 'hating' very lightly. and i wasn't referring only to you either. i'm sometimes surprised when dj's will use dub versions of songs that i think have excellent vocals, performances and/ or lyrics. just me though.

wasn't nuts about 'starlight'. nice try but not quite there. i should really check out their other stuff though.

― jaime, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 01:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

sometimes vocals can derail a mix.

i may like a vocal version a lot, but in some contexts the dub or instrumental just works better.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 01:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

There's a Sylvester 7" with I Need Somebody to Love Tonight that's instrumental, but yeah, I can't imagine not wanting to hear the vocals.

What's worse then not having vocals is having screaming white guy vocals all the time...that has it's place, but we need more jamie principals

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 01:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

wasn't nuts about 'starlight'. nice try but not quite there. i should really check out their other stuff though.

Definitely try "A Bright New Life" first. Is SO GOOD.

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 05:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

We need more Jamie Principles and Sterling Voids indeed. Also, random Sylvester side-note, but I heard "Rock the Box" for the first time a few months back and my God that's a perfect track right there. Not sure how I'd missed it all these years.

― matt2, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 15:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Strange subliminal capitalization of god in that sentence. Christian upbringing won't go away!

― matt2, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

wasn't nuts about 'starlight'. nice try but not quite there.

wow really? I luv that song.

Definitely try "A Bright New Life" first.

I like the vocals on "All That She Is" a little better .... I think if I was gonna put Bright New Life on a mix I'd use the Morgan Geist version!

― dmr, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

have we talked about A Mountain Of One?

They covered "Can't Be Serious" and have very mysterious/limited pressings similar to WEWW stuff. I haven’t heard much besides what’s on their myspace and the Ginny cover. Their first EP just got a re-press and a second one is supposed to be out soon.

According to this, they're playing live in London this week. Does anyone know if they play live often?

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was just about to ask about them. listened to a few songs on their myspace about an hour ago. def got the roxy music-ness about them.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 22:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wish I had an mp3 of the Cant Be Serious cover.

I think I'm gonna pick up that re-press because I like what I hear so far.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 22:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

Chelonis R. Jones is probably the closest equivalent to Sterling Void/Principle/Owens nowadays.

― Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think that guy Samwell that sings "what what (in the butt)" is a good candidate, if given a better tune (although i really like the 'what what' beat...)

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

^^ yes!

also, who ever sang on the lcd 45/33 first part. (was that a sample?)

― jaxon, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 00:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

ps. alan parsons is killing me right now

― jaxon, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 00:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

Uh, I am NOT into those Mountain of One tracks. Voice= turnoff, in this case

― the table is the table, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 01:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

Michael otm re Chelonis. Love, love, love Chelonis.

― matt2, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

ginny's voice was kind of hurting on the original, but i totally love it.

uhhh, but yeah ... i know people really liked 'starlight' but it was sort of lukewarm feeling for me. something about it just wasn't givin'er, musically and vocally i find it kinda just fades into the background.

i think the song that has given me the most disco joy this year is kotey extra band + chaz jankel doing 'sooner or later'. so damn good on the dancefloor. i RUN to the floor. was listening to that and 'give me your love' and 'i love you more' and realized that i'd also like more strings!

also agree about the sexy house vox - "it's you" being one of my fave vocals of all time. chelonis is a good approximation of that style.

― jaime, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

I love "Starlight," but the pressing that I have is kind of sub-par. I usually dont have the best ear for that kind of stuff but I always notice it when I put that record on.

Ive been meaning to check out that kotey extra band 12". Thanks for reminding me.

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

The new Royskopp back to mine thing is stocked with italo and new wave, but also has "Can't Be Serious" on it as sort of the token cosmic/beardo track.

― Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 03:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

grady that kotey extra band thing is rally good. the chicken lips mixes are REAL dubby, even by their standards.

― haitch, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 05:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

'give me your love'

oops i meant 'i want your love'

― jaime, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 07:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

huge xpost but:

>Aeo (Pt.1 & 2) - Brian Briggs

YES!!!!

This is the awesomest.

― J@cob, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 10:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Out Tomorrow:

Rvng of the Nrds Vol 3 - Mock & Toof

I can't get the sample of the first track to work, but the other two sound alright. Not as exciting as the Betty Botox and Flying Squad ones, but the previous Mock and Toof releases have been more playful and campy, and not so much essential transpotter material.

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 16 April 2007 22:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also!

Map of Africa full length is coming out some time this summer/fall! Very limited LP release on WEWW. I'm told (but can't say for sure) it will be comprised of new tracks and re-working/re-recordings of the singles.

The unofficial Harvey fanclub has had a thread going on it for a while now.

It is in the forthcoming releases at Piccadilly- with audio samples!- where they are calling it "release of decade."

Based on the samples, some tracks sound a lot less sweaty/balls out and have a more druggy/cosmic sound. I got to hear "Here come the heads" in full a few weeks ago but I was pretty drunk.

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 16 April 2007 22:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

That Kotey Extra Band feat Chaz Jankel.

Love it, love it, love it! i RUN to the floor I wish there was a dancefloor near me to run to.

― Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 15:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also loving Allez Allez African Queen, a gorgeous post-punk meets exotica thing, and the Otterman Empire Dharma, which has wild folk/middle eastern violins.

― Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 15:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Digit 2" on that Mock & Toof is some really obvious classic rock song that I can't quite place

― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 15:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 be shina williams

― jaime, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

i haven't heard it but i believe digit 1 is wire.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

i, uh, just realized 'sooner or later' is a moroder track. just as i was thinking "wow people can still WRITE good SONGS!". :\

― jaime, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

Okay, this might fall under the "beardo" designation even though it was a semi-hit (IIRC) on Casablanca, but ever since Radio Slave's Eskimo mix reminded me of its existence, Dennis Parker's "Like an Eagle" has been absolutely slaying me.

*edit* ...aaand now I see Lovefingers were on it as of December of last year. Anyway. Still a fucking amazing song.

― Telephone thing, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think I got it off midnight mike's blog (12am maternal) last year .... which now went to a secret-tracks-only format (no artists or titles)

― dmr, Thursday, 19 April 2007 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Like an Eagle" was on that james murphy beats in space set from earlier in '06, actually

― deej, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

April 2006

― deej, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

beardo virus multiplying

― dmr, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

...come to think of it, i haven't shaved in a couple days

― deej, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

i grew one on vacation in march

im a cliche :(

― dmr, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's not surprising that there already is a beardo cannon with all the blogs posting such similiar stuff

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

me jumping on the bandwagon = further sign that this shit probably already peaked.

still, as an approach i really like its embrace of diverse genres previously ignored etc... the unifying aesthetic is pretty unique. once this gets calcified into a canon it would take most of the fun out of it i think.

i mean i guess thats already happened but i'm behind enough that it will take that much longer

― deej, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

if anything i think the movement/trend is just as much a return to dance music/deejay culture's roots, as best I can understand them having been born in 1980.

i understand what you're saying about how its kind of silly/sad that there's a cannon being established. but that's kind of how its always been, hasn’t it? there weren't blogs or pro-tools-fueled edits in the 70's, but in a way, one person sharing a track with others or including it on a mix causing other deejays and music fans to get into it isnt any different from how it all started in the 70's with record pools.

what i think is positive about it all is that a genre in which eclecticism but not just for eclecticism's sake can exist.

yes, we have talked about this before. yes, i read love saves the day and am perhaps not really thinking for myself.

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

i agree with these things you have read

― deej, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

things g®▲Ðұ read otm

― deej, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

'like an eagle' was also on that radio slave mix for eskimo last year.

― haitch, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

"like an eagle" was recorded in 1979 on casablanca records :-O

one-up'd forever

― deej, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dennis Parker is said to have been an adult film star at the time he released the Jacques Morali produced "Like An Eagle" in 1979.

― deej, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.discomuseum.com/DennisParker.html

― deej, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

more than you ever wanted to know!

― deej, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

i played 'like an eagle' at a party last year and drunk girls were reeling around, arms outstretched. it was a treat. crying~~eagle~~drunkgirl.jpg, never forget.

― haitch, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.bestfootforward.info/2007/02/silver-eagle_13.html

― g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Like an Eagle" is used nicely in this recent BIS:

Playlist for March 20th, 2007 :::
March 20th (part 1 with Andy Butler) :: [stream] [download]
March 20th (part 2 with Andy Butler and Tim) :: [stream] [download]

Andy Butler (Hercules And Love Affair) guest mix:
1. Hercules And Love Affair - Mystique (Rough)
2. Dubwise - Hold Me Real Tight - Fusion
3. - Deep Down - Deep Grooves
4. Dave "Tech" Nice - Drena's Revenge (Riff Raff Mix) - Underworld
5. Fresh - Dum Dum - Precision
6. Futura - Feelin' Hot - Reelin & Rockin
7. The Earons - Land Of Hunger - Island
8. The Quick - Zulu (Inst) - Pavillion
9. The Olympic Runners - The Kool Gent - RCA
10. El Coco - The Count Of Monte Disco - AVI
11. Cheri - No Communication - Polydor
12. Tourist - Hooked On You - Rams Horn
13. Advance - Take Me To The Top (Remix) - BMC
14. Casanova - A Gay Time Latin Lover - Emergency
15. Margot Thomas - I'll Set You Free - Deco
16. Celi Bee & The Buzzy Bunch - Alternating Currents - TK Disco
17. Dennis Parker - Like An Eagle - Casablanca
18. Peter Brown - Burning Love Breakdown - TK Disco
19. Love International - Dance On The Groove And Do The Funk - Polydor
Part 2
19. Love International - Dance On The Groove And Do The Funk - Polydor
20. Jeanette "Lady" Day - Come Let Me Love You - Prelude
Tim Sweeney takes over:
21. Omar S - C-J-A-I-P-U-R - Fxhe
22. Akabu - Phuture Bound (Ame Remix) - ZR
23. Omar S - D-Foe-Show - Fxhe
24. Lee Douglas - New York Story - Rong
25. Disco Devil - Excuse Me - Disco Devil
26. Dreamhouse - I Can Feel It - United Sounds Of America
27. No Smoke - Koro Koro -
28. - Dirty Fantasy (Edit By Hawkeye) -
29. Nacht Und Nebel - Beats Of Love - STD

― g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 21 April 2007 00:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

thats cool, whenever i get to that midpoint of the song where murphy does the transition to 'first time around' i start hearing his bungled transition :-/

― deej, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

uh poorly written sentence but i think you get my drift

― deej, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

Butler's segue from "like and eagle" into "burning love greakdown" is great.

― g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

7. The Earons - Land Of Hunger - Island
8. The Quick - Zulu (Inst) - Pavillion

i LOVE these two records

― jaxon, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

i saw pipec0ck the other day on the littledetroit forums, he was sonning some british kids in a gun control beef, still trollin and makin no sense. USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

picked up lindstrom's album "music under pressure" tonight for $5 out of a bargain jazz bin - it's bizarre!! more on it later, but on first listen it sounds like a cross between maurice fulton and prefuse 73!!!

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 04:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

what did we decide about "vertical tones + horizontal noise"??

i think it's sorta wack = no reason i can see to swerve from awesome goblin-meets-john-carpenter disco jams into a "dark" version of luke vibert's "kerrier district"

what about white light circus? goat dance? album soon??

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 04:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

the goat dance with the black + white sleeve, just called 'goat dance', is ace. white light circus struck me as a bit rote, though.

― haitch, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 05:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

rote ... exactly how i feel about "vertical tones ..."

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

i'm beginning to think i have too much chicken lips-related music, and i told the dood at the record store this ...while buying this.

― haitch, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 07:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the Prins Thomas mixcd "Cosmo Galactic Prism" yet?

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

Details now pls thx.

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

I've just seen a mention on the Fact Magazine's site about the promo on Friday...

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

i really liked the very first vertical tones and horizontal noise and still play both sides, but the rest kind of grate on me.

anyone know anything about hugh herrerra? i'm playing w/ him this weekend.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Google just turns up Fact Magazine and a DJ History forums thread:
http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23850

Sum total of the available information... double CD, on Eskimo, some of the stuff on it: Hawkwind, Joe Meek (as producer or something from I Hear A New World?), Carl Craig (a C2 original or one of his ten million recent remixes?), Recloose's "Cardiology" (no idea if it's the original or Isolee's), and "the infamous donger edit," whatever the hell that is.

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

killer no filler DJ Harvey banger YouTube video just up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpfQvBtYtmw

― sanskrit, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 01:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

i agree about vertical tones and horizontal noise

i was hoping for vertical tones and horizontal noise

― artdamages, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 01:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

i just got the Like and Eagle LP for $4. the title track is 6:31. i think the 12" (with the 8:37 version) is a little harder to find.

also picked up APP - I Robot. Thanks for the tip, v4hid - it smokes!

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

no love for trusme's "nards" yet? (that's a link to an audio snippet up on picadilly)

― tricky, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am loving the shit out of that track.

kind of tricky to mix in to, but it doesn't matter.

the b sides are great too.

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

longer sample from turntablelab

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

kind of tricky to mix in to

(no pun intended.)

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah all three tracks on it are great! i am loving (no surprise i suppose) the recent housier end of beardo.

― tricky, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 03:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

there's definitely a theo parrish vibe going on to this release anyway, but it's also like the disco-loop house from the 90s has been inverted by choosing different sections of tracks to re-edit/loop instead of the big hooks. rootsy but still a totally blank slate at the same time.

― tricky, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 03:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am also loving this.

― tricky, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 03:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

its a shame that serge santiago's version of angel eyes didn't end up here. its so much better than those two versions.

you can hear it on his myspace.

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 03:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

as noted on the "this is why i'm hot thread", new rune lindbaek on NOID looks set to stun ...

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

wow that santiago is really good and way more of a tripped out dubbed out edit than the ones i linked to, but the bass in the rub n tug one kills me. roxy has some great stuff in their catalog.

has their been a chic vs roxy edit yet?

― tricky, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

the peeps at djhistory.com were all over the lindbaek release. i can't find the thread though.

― tricky, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

is it CD only or is it getting a vinyl release?

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 06:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey, has anyone heard eric rub-n-tug's 'still going' thing that DFA are putting out?

― haitch, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 09:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Just thought Londoners might like to know that Joel from Quiet Village is playing this Saturday at the thisisnotanexit launch party at The George Tavern on Commercial Road

Think I'm going to go.

― Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

is it CD only or is it getting a vinyl release?

It's called Klubb Kebabb and it looks like it's getting released on both CD and 2xLP.

― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

juno and piccadilly have the vynil version.

is anyone stateside carrying it? calsound.com only has the CD.

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

http://www.groovedis.com/shop/home.php

― Telephone thing, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

AMOEBA SF?!?

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sounds of the Universe/Soul Jazz and Piccadilly are taking preorders for the Map of Africa LP (vinyl only at the moment, CD to come later). And it costs 25 pounds, which with the absolute reaming the dollar is taking at the hands of every other currency on the planet is just not an option- I loves me some music, but $50 for a new LP (not even a double!) is completely insane.

― Telephone thing, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

think how much you'll make on ebay though!

― jaxon, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 03:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost - the Rune Lindbaek will be in this Friday at Amoeba SF. assuming that's what you were wondering, vahid.

is California, the Map of Africa LP will be found exclusively at Amoeba LA and Tweekin' Records in SF.

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 03:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

do you work @ amoeba?

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 03:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

he does.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 04:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

thin guy in the dance section who wears a stocking cap??

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 04:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

That would be epic. I just met him and I'd have to say no.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 08:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

hehe, yeah. no cap. not thin.

yeah, i work there. i know when the Lindbaek album is coming in because i ordered it. we've already got the CDs.

btw is Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve the most Beardo thing imaginable? i just got their newest 12" but haven't listened. it'll be in the shop by the weekend.

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 08:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

can anyone explain to me how y'all have heard any of the map of africa singles? i've been scouring for a good month and have only found small snippets online. i wonder how much the whole rare/aura element changes how people listen to it...

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna plop this here because it doesn't deserve a thread of it's own and the vague hints of a song I hear in my head tell me it's a recent disco edit. What samples Aquarian Dream's "East 6th Street"? I can hear the bass line so clearly in another context, but I can't get a name right now.

― matt2, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

I got Dirty Lovin' on the old YS1 thread (R.1.P.)

xpost

― dmr, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

i have seen MOA stuff on slsk.

"black skin blue eyed boys" is readily available on that kaos/ sal p mix/ 2x12".

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

the map of africa stuff ranges from fantastic (1st EP) to mediocre (the 2nd EP) to in-between (3rd EP).

"black skin blue eyed boys" is a fantastic cover, but i particularly like "map of africa", which reminds me of man called adam at their most tripped-out and ambient (search: the live mix of "so you say")

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dang! Answered my own question kind of, but for those who were(n't) wondering, the track I was thinking edited/sampled "East 6th Street" was Black Cock's "Cosmic." However, according to this post on Dream Chimney, Black Cock actually used Tony Sylver's cover of "East 6th Street" which he called "Cosmic Lady." To confuse matters more, Magick Edit Allstars did, in fact, do an edit of the original "East 6th Street" which I'm pretty sure I downloaded at some point. Anyway, there you have it, thanks for reading.

― matt2, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

does Ameobea do mailorder?

@v4hid: have you listened to the snippets of the album tracks on piccadilly?

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

how long do songs stay up on dream chimney?

― jaxon, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think one day or so.

― matt2, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

amoeba technically does not do mail order BUT if you call and are nice on the phone we might send something to you. i dunno if we've ever done it for vinyl so it'd be worth a shot.

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

the Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve remixes i've heard = sooo good.

― jaxon, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 04:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

also, in case it hasn't been seen

― jaxon, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 04:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

is the MOA record gonna be any good? the singles were pretty spotty.

― lfam, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

Press release for Prins Thomas' "Cosmo Galactic Prism" mix mentioned above (taken from the DJ History thread, also x-post), out June 25 on Eskimo:

Prins Thomas is by now intrinsically linked to the eclectic and ‘space-disco’ sounds emanating from his homeland, Norway. Alongside Hans-Peter Lindstrøm their eponymous debut album and up and coming ‘Reinterpretations’ re-workings have opened up their so-called ‘Cosmic Disco’ sounds to a whole new audience of music lovers. Having already garnered international acclaim for his own DJing skills the world over we now get to sample a snapshot of Thomas M. Hermansen in action across two sumptuous discs of avant-garde dance grooves, twisted funk, spaced-out electronics, psychadelic fusion, classic techno, disco, prog rock and all manner of leftfield concoctions. Across 38 tracks we get Hawkwind jamming with Visnadi, Bob James going toe to toe with The Salsoul Invention, Joe Meek twisting by the pool with Holger Czukay, Boards of Canada segueing into Prins Thomas’s Norwegian cohort Lindstrøm and Closer Musik doing the Detroit tango with Recloose, Carl Craig and Parliament.

His own label Full Pupp has some of the best house-not-house, neo-disco or call-it-what-you-want dance music records to offer that you heard in a long time. All made by exclusive Norwegian talent, a new outfit called Internasjonal will join the global dots with producers from all corners of the known-world, where he currently turns up every weekend with a crate of vinyl, his record grips and an immaculate way to play with it. In other words, there is no stopping him now.

Prins Thomas has been making a name for himself with his own releases, remixes for Blackjoy, Justus Köhncke, Force Of Nature, Simian Mobile Disco to name a few (phew...) and breaking sound systems the world over as a DJ of eclectic dexterity. But it was not always like that. The Prins had to go through the school of hard knocks like so many before him. Back, way back in time, he started playing around as a DJ at a puerile age. Viewed as an extension of his break-dancing efforts, belt-driven turntables were enough to support his mix of hip hop, electro and an array of Arthur Baker’s and Shep Pettibone’s jewels. But as soon as he picked up the bass and played in more bands than Norway has trees, the joy of the turntable took a back seat. Until the early nineties arrived that is. Prins still didn’t have his reliable gang of co-conspirators, but he picked up a weekly residence, where he championed sounds as far fetched as Miles Davis or The Doors together with the craze that was started by Phuture’s “Acid Tracks”.

He joined forces with Lindstrøm in 2003, after mutual admiration and inspiration of each others productions. Lindstrøm as muso-wizard and Prins Thomas as the nu-skool remix DJ champ. They both have a background from different Norwegian band-projects; ranging from punk to gospel via country to heavy metal to folk and psychedelia but they also share the same passion for collecting records and run their own labels Feedelity, Full Pupp and Internasjonal from their Scandanavian liar. Besides working on various solo-projects, they often mutate into the two headed beast "L&PT" and explore the outer limits of futuristic disko and universal boogie!

Featuring many tracks from the outer reaches of disco, funk and electronica ‘Cosmo Galactic Prism’ is an eclectic amalgam of the old and new yet still retains the flow and structure of a Prins Thomas DJ set. As Thomas himself explains, “contrary to the pompous title of this mix CD, remember this ain't rocket science... It's a mixture of old and new favourites, some you might have heard already and hopefully some that are new to you. I tried as much as possible to make an interesting mix of individual tracks and still have some kind of feel and flow to it. Due to the pityful playing time of compact discs and my eagerness to squeeze in as many tracks as possible (and not all of them made it this far...) I had to edit down the length of some of the tracks after the final mix. Some light trickery and magic were also used...and just a little bit of voodoo.”

www.myspace.com/prinsthomas / www.myspace.com/fullpupp / www.eskimorecordings.com

cd1

01. Joe Meek And The Blue Men - I Hear A New World
02. Area Code 615 - Devil Weed And Me
03. Crue-L Grand Orchestra - Candymountain In The Rainywoods (HF Steelguitarapella + Original Mix)
04. Glissandro 70 - Bolan Muppets
05. Holger Czukay - Cool In The Pool
06. Bjørn Torske - Soloppgang Over Yukigaya
07. Rey De Copas - Frontera Del Ensueno (Grid Caramba Dub)
08. The Mole - Acadian
09. The Electric South feat. Bob Lind - Sing (Unabombers Electric North Remix)
10. Carlos Hernandez - Roller Giggle
11. Finzy Kontini - Cha Cha Cha (Bass And Drums)
12. Musique - Summer Love Theme
13. Soylent Green - Camera Obscura
14. Boards Of Canada - Nlogax
15. Lindstrøm - Another Station
16. Metalchicks - Tears For Fears/Conspiracy
17. Waltz - Folkesta
18. Hawkwind - City Of Lagoons

cd 2

01. Hawkwind - City Of Lagoons
02. Visnadi - Racing Tracks (Le Mans Race Mix)
03. Uusi Fantasia - Happamat Kallott
04. Bob James - Moonbop
05. The Salsoul Invention - Soul Machine (additional edits by Dølle Jølle)
06. Axer - 123
07. Dubarchanoid Trim - Perfumed Garden
08. Matias Aguayo - Radiotaxi
09. Recloose - Cardiology (Isolée Mix)
10. Closer Musik - Maria
11. Zombi - Sapphire
12. The Now Generation - African Nightclub
13. The Honeymoon Killers - Décollage (Prins Thomas Multitrack Edit)
14. Tres Demented - She’z Satan
15. Musiccargo - Ich Geh Den Weg Mit Dir
16. Visnadi - Racing Tracks (Indianapolis Drive Mix)
17. The Paper Dolls - Get Down Boy (additional edits by Love On The Run)
18. Parliament - Night Of The Thumpasorus Peoples

― Craig D., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

the upcoming Bjørn Torske disc on smalltown supersound is ace

― Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

re: beardo mixes

i think it's great to celebrate the production / edit work of these guys but often with the DJ mixes they put out i'm just like, "dude, get one MP3 blog"

this "cosmo galactic prism" looks quite a bit less interesting than what you can get for free from beats in space / PS1 radio / ILM mix thread / lovefingers / etc etc

eskimo has ... jumped the shark?? (see also: radioslave's "creature of the night" mix)

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

I think you're totally right, Vahid, especially considering how different it seems than something like Rub's Campfire. That said, starting a mix with Meek's "I hear a New World" is a good staple to keep alive.

That Torske disc is great!

― BleepBot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

When you factor in the time it takes to put together the release (not talking about the actual mixing but rather licensing/artwork/manufacturing etc) and the task of securing licensing for each and every track (which alone can rule out a lot of awesome but legally dubious white labels, edits, etc), there's no way a label-backed mix CD is going to be as adventurous or timely as something from Beats in Space etc, or indeed whatever the DJ putting together the mix is like spinning live...

― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, last thing on my "East 6th St" --> "Cosmic Lady" --> "Cosmic" bit up above. If you want to hear "Cosmic Lady" by Tony Silvester & The New Ingredient aka Tony Sylvers, it is available at lovefingers.org. It's the old song still able to be downloaded though so you better get on over there if you want it.

― matt2, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

"It's the old song" should be "It's the oldEST song"

― matt2, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

That's still open to misinterpretation, maybe it should be "oldest post with the song still available for download" but whatever. I'll shutup.

― matt2, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

commercial mix CDs *are* passe if you are clued in to blogs, p2p, downloadable mixes, these threads, etc. but not everyone has the time?

i don't think eskimo has jumped yet, although the lotterboys album and RS mix were underwhelming for sure. the peter visti 12 is awesome.

― Michael F Gill, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

commercial ~~mix~~ CDs *are* passe

― dan selzer, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

Got a track ID request.

Could anyone tell me what the Italo tune in this track is?

http://www.datassette.net/music/datashat--stop_the_message.mp3

This guy put the Message acapella through a vocoder and then over this track.

Sounds really good pitched down.

― Siah Alan, Monday, 7 May 2007 06:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

bwh - stop

― Michael F Gill, Monday, 7 May 2007 13:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the info.

I am pretty much universally ignorant when it comes to a lot of this stuff.

― Siah Alan, Monday, 7 May 2007 13:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

Almost 1100 posts and no scott seward.

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 7 May 2007 20:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

How about that Lindstrom/Prins Thomas essential mix?

― littlewhiteearbuds, Monday, 7 May 2007 21:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

I got to see the MOA LP on Friday. It looks pretty nice. Def. better packaging than previous WEWW releases.

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 7 May 2007 23:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

are they printing a larger edition than 17 this time???

― lfam, Monday, 7 May 2007 23:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

1000

― g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 7 May 2007 23:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

i was in A-1 records in ny this past weekend and they had one of the MoA 12"s on the wall to taunt people but not to sell. i guess Carlos is friends w/the guys that work there.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 04:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

wow so cool

― lfam, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 05:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

i ordered some import copies of the MOA CD for the store today, here's hoping we get them!

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 06:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Any idea how limited the run of CDs will be?

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 07:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

Also: has anyone heard Mudd's Claremont 56 LP on Rong?

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 08:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

I saw the MoA 12" there this weekend as well. Eric of Rub-n-Tug works there, so that's probably connection enough.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 12:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Rong, any word on when Lee Douglas' new one is coming out?
I just realized dude is a really accomplished illustrator working with motion graphics heavyweights in NYC. Here's the new record's design...
http://www.douglaslee.org/design2.html

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

this "cosmo galactic prism" looks quite a bit less interesting than what you can get for free from beats in space / PS1 radio / ILM mix thread / lovefingers / etc etc

But it works really, really well.

― braveclub, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

I mentioned Doug's illustrations above...

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the new Lee Douglas with the bells on his myspace is just right.

― matt2, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 15:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

sorry i missed that dan, this thread has gotten really unwieldy. i'm just surprised that he works with the best of the best w/r/t motion graphic companies...makes sense why his releases take so long to come out...

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 15:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was some really impressive stuff. Thanks for the link BleepBot.

― matt2, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

spoke to Ben at Rong yesterday, he says that "New York Story" is out at the end of the month.

Rong is also releasing a limited edition 12" soon, here's the info:

"So here's a very limited gem for our loyal customers. Only 250 of these are being made and they are only available through mail order direct through us so get on it fast!! Each 12" will be hand painted on the B side, coming in a handsome full plastic belt sleeve to boot.

This very special limited release is to promote the first of our new mix CD series titled, "NON STOP" (#1 is mixed by the Rong Boys - Ben Cook and DJ Spun) which will be coming out soon after, so keep on the look out!

About the Music:

Hailing From the LBC, CA, Mr. Scotty Coats and Wes The Mes are the newest members of our ragtag outfit we would like to introduce to you. The title pretty much says it all, as far as the music's concerned - Mental crunchy punk disco with a bass line that'll rip your hair piece back.

Catalog # Rong dj4
Artist: Scotty Coats and Wes The Mes
A1) Double Fisted - (Hand painted single sided release)
Street date: May 21st"

These should be in all three Amoebas upon release. If you live outside CA, check the Rong website I guess...

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey why doesn't amoeba have "this is rong music"???

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

btw i dropped by on saturday and bought "klubb kebbab", there were three dudes working the dance section and they all had stocking caps

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

Claremont 56 was out in Japan last year I think? I thought it was uneven, some wonderful moments and some real snoozers.

― Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey why doesn't amoeba have "this is rong music"???

Being in Alabama and, you know, not working there, I can't really speak for Amoeba, but I'm pretty sure the UK/international version of This Is... is out yet and won't be out for another couple of months. The one out there now is on Music Mine, who handle Rong's distribution in Japan.

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

Er, ISN'T out yet. Gah.

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah but amoeba has mad japanese stuff ... but it's nice to hear taht there's a UK/europe version of "this is..." coming out

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

lol rong website

http://www.rongmusic.net/

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

also:

listening to a Midnight Mike mix that is over two years old and has Like an Eagle on it.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Did the website say "coming May 2006" or something for like a year?

― matt2, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

yes.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

TS: http://www.rongmusic.net/ vs http://www.perlon.net/ vs http://www.whateverwewantrecords.com/

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

did the lee douglas op t-shirts get made???
i want

― mizzell, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost

Don't forget to add http://www.planet-e.net

I think that one's been the same since at least 2003 or 2004. Although something tells me the intro was different, although in the same vein, this time around. It's so old that after the intro it says check back and make sure you have Flash 6 installed. The current version is Flash 9.xxx

― matt2, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

acute records said "new site soon" from 2002 till 2007.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

not that anyone was checking.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not to get shady, but does anyone have a digital version of the first otterman release? The second one blew half of my brain off and I NEED TO TAKE IT OUT.

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

coming right up

― lfam, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

also i don't think it's shady to share records that only got like two copies pressed

― lfam, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

yep yep, just email me...

speaking of, are they really going to release MOA on CD? It really seems likes it defeats the whole aura they're going for with group and label.

― BleepBot, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

But what if it's a set of twelve 3" CDRs in individually silk-screened sleeves, including a real hair from DJ Harvey's beard?

― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 00:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

...in an edition of ten, selling at £150.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 00:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

marisa marchant, OG beardo

― haitch, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 00:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

blech it's worse than the flurking noise scene. fuck these limited presses.

― the table is the table, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

xpost

amoeba doesn't have 'this is rong music' because it's japan only, and i don't have a regular connection when it comes to that stuff. i get offered the odd 'hit album with extra track' sort of thing but when i do get offered something special and japan-only, it's usually through one of my regular sources.

that said, we do lots of business with different japanese distros, just not for the electronic section. i need to change that, apparently. :)

if you really want the rong comp, vahid (or anyone else), let me know and i'll see if i can track it down for you. otherwise i'm going to wait for a domestic release (and i'll ask ben cook if there's ever going to be one).
is there any other juicy japan-only disco stuff i should know about?

seconded on the ottoman empire, if possible...i'm also after mp3's of the second 12" as well, since the ones up on oink were recorded at half speed. i'm another dimension at geem@il dot com etc.

and Klubb Kebabb is the shit! for 'Africa' alone!

― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 06:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

is there any other juicy japan-only disco stuff i should know about?

Mule Musiq

― Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 07:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

actually if you would check out the possibility of hooking up the rong comp i'd be much obliged

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 07:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

We get the Mule stuff, it's not Japan-only. We've got the Kuniyuki Takahashi as well as the Optimo mix CD in stock now.

vahid -- i'll check in in the next few days and let you know.

― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 08:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Mule, they've got a second installment in their mix series (after Optimo's [i]Walkabout[i]) coming up soon, mixed by Force of Nature. Should be interesting.

― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 14:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

it would be cool if amoeba carried stuff from music mine

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 16:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

also please get hip to [url=[Removed Illegal Link]

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 16:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

by coincidence, i just got word that we'll be getting both the Mudd and This is Rong Music 2CD at the end of the month, so look for them then...

― BATTAGS, Thursday, 10 May 2007 04:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

not exactly disco-ey, but you might like Japanese Synchro System

― the table is the table, Thursday, 10 May 2007 04:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

How about that Lindstrom/Prins Thomas essential mix?

-- littlewhiteearbuds, Monday, May 7, 2007 4:24 PM (6 days ago)

pretty amazing! love that new faze action song

― deej, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

so when should i expect reports of map of africa's lp?

― BleepBot, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

dunno, but the interesting news i got today is that Garth (of Wicked/Grayhound records fame) has paired up with 'so old-school that most so-called old-school people don't know who he is' James Glass and his fricking amazing record collection to start a new edits label, called Golden Goose.

"GOLDEN GOOSE 1

We thought it high time for a connoisseur's label for disco/rock re-edits.

Golden Goose was born in San Francisco of a shared passion for top notch
dance music.

Spliced and diced for today's dancefloors with the utmost respect for the
originals. You won't find these edits dripping in modern effects or combining
different sources. What you will find is careful, tasteful rearrangement.

No expense will be spared on mastering and pressing so these lost gems can be
played out in all their glory by discerning selectors.

For this first release we offer two songs...

A: STRANGER IN THE CITY
B: MIDNIGHT GIRL

Side A features a 70's rock vocal over a slow balearic funk beat. Urgent
lyrics speak of hard times in a big city.

Side B is an altogether lighter affair. Funky uptempo bass drives a male
vocal expressing a late night disco longing.

Edits by KING & HOUND.

King (James Glass) is a serious collector/DJ of quality dance music
encompassing everything from soul-inflected disco rarities to drugged up
Baldelli cosmic classics.

Hound (Garth) is an internationally renown DJ/producer and owns the Grayhound
label. With almost 50 years collecting between them these fellas have deep
crates... more to follow."

sign me the fuck up.

― BATTAGS, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

who is james glass?

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

he ran tweekin' with darren davis in the early early 90's, then quit and basically disappared from public view. he's been DJ'ing again recently, his set from last month's gun club was out of control...

― BATTAGS, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

how excited can you really get for an edits label

― Michael F Gill, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

This has me mighty excitey:

Dirty Space Disco

― Telephone thing, Monday, 14 May 2007 21:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

i've been meaning to post this too. they've sent out a few emails a week about it.

― jaxon, Monday, 14 May 2007 21:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

bootleg? I thought all the sylvester stuff was owned by Unidisc who are notorious for not licensing...

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 00:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

didn't that sylvester track just show up on that jazzanova comp jaxon was pumping upthread?

it was on the permamnent vacation mix cd too.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 00:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

jazzanova comp

released like only 3-4 weeks ago?

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 00:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

fern kinney's "groove me" is exceptionally cosmic.

glad to see no alan parsons on that comp.

i can't wait for that "computer incantations" comp ...

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 00:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

its out!

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 00:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

A freind dropped this on me the other night:

Andreas Vollenweider - Behind The Gardens ... Behind The Wall ... Under The Tree ...

Fucking GREAT swiss harpist balearic fusion smoked out electro acoustic voyage....

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 00:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

e2-e4 has just had some sort of 25th anniversary reissue, don't think there's any extra material though.

― haitch, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 01:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

the 'computer incantations' album is out on vinyl, CD due in the next 2/3 weeks i believe.

does anyone remember when andreas vollenweider was pretty much universally loathed? my co-workers reminded me that CTI was the same way once upon a time...

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 01:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

i had never heard of him before this weekend.

i have never worked in a record store though.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:14 (6 years ago) Permalink

seriously more than half of the things i listen to now i loathed only a couple of years ago.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

fern kinney's "groove me" is exceptionally cosmic.

i really love 'baby let me kiss you'. especially for the kissy sounds she makes towards the end. and her sweet soul girl group voice. and that percussion in the middle. sort of a weird tune, like when i play it i tend to think it may be too slow for people to dance to but usually gets them moving with that subliminal groove.

― jaime, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

speaking of e2e4, does anyone know of any further news regarding the james murphy/manuel gottsching beef?

― creme1, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

(apologies if it has been discussed already, but this is a big old thread)

― creme1, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

As far as I know it's not mutual; Gottsching got pissy about being cited as an influence and about the resemblance between the covers of 45:33 and E2-E4. I dunno, I love Gottsching but it's kind of hard to take his side here.

http://www.ashra.com/pages/lcd.htm

― Telephone thing, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 08:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

that site has gotta be a joke, right? i mean:

23 years after its first release, the famous "E2-E4" design exists not only on CD and LP covers, but is sold worldwide on all kinds of merchandising such as bags, jackets, shirts, towels and coffee mugs - in several color variations, but always with light and dark squares just like on a chessboard (the title of Manuel Goettsching's album "E2-E4" is a reference to one of the most popular opening moves in chess)

c'mon now...

― jermainetwo, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 08:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

it is a chess move.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 09:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

That press release is dated April 1, 2007.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 09:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Thas ashra press statement is so completely idiotic. It's freaking hommage and Gottshing is going to sell a lot more records thanks to this.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 11:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

agreed, but it was probably an april fools joke.

NOT FUNNY.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 17:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

the japanese seem to be particularly e2-e4 crazy. last time i was there i saw all sorts of e2-e4 merchandise. the scarves were particularly popular.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

someone write a press release from the makers of chess & checker boards telling dude to step off his high horse. (unless it is a joke)

― jaxon, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 17:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

does anyone remember when andreas vollenweider was pretty much universally loathed?

sure, I do. but on the other hand (correct me if I'm wrong) the dude has like a hundred records and only two or three of them are godd ... right? or have I been passing up tons of great stuff at the thrift stores?

I got that Mock & Toof rvng record. the Wire edit is kind of useless imo but the other two are great, esp. the southern boogie rock space jam. track 3 is like afro-beat but I don't know the original of that one either.

― dmr, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

two or three of them are good, that is

― dmr, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

re the checkerboard beef, nike used the checkerboard back when in their logos. i can't find a pic, but my tennis shoes circa '85 or so had the board on the tongue. so...

― andrew m., Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

fuck nike, gottsching needs to go after VANS!

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 20:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

i agree with dmr on mock and toof 12".

i just ordered their new 12" on Mule Music: online shop samples sounded pretty good.

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 20:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

alexander robotnick friday in SF (not really beardo but not sure where else to put it)

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 22:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey, so apparently quiet village signed to virgin for an lp? any news on that? can't remember if it's been discussed here

oh yeah, robotnick in toronto on sat (italo thread more appropriate but whatever)

― jaime, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 22:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

o_0

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 22:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

The map of Africa album is out and it is fantastic.

It was described somehwere as "Dire Straights meets Sting" which not totally wrong if you include Zappa and Blueshammer into that mix.

― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 18 May 2007 17:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Black Skin Blue Eyed Boys" and "Bone" are red hottt

― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 18 May 2007 17:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

'breakwind' by lee douglas coming soon on wurst edits is surely thee beardo freak out tune of the year.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 18:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

is it an edit of Mike Theodore Orchestra - Cosmic Wind ? I think I heard it on beats in space when he was on.

― dmr, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 18:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

i wasn't sure what i was gonna think about the Map of Africa album. most of the songs i'd heard were on the pub-rockier side (Thin Lizzy, Pato). but after the first 3 or 4 songs, it gets into that smoothed out, balearic rock style that i was hoping for and i think it's pretty rad.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 18:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

it is indeed dmr.

x post

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

the most annoying thing about the map of africa album is that it's pressed so quietly.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

TRU

― g®▲đұ, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

favorite previously unreleased track: Get Outta Bed!

― g®▲đұ, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

mike b, do you guys have A Mountain of One releases at amoeba? they're ridiculously absent from soulseek.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

we've got EP2 but not the first one. i got them both from o!nk...

― BATTAGS, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

jaxon-

Do you need an Invite?

Oink Invites

-Oink A

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

hi grady!

― sanskrit, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

sanskrit banned 30 days.

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think if 16-year-old me found me enjoying this map of africa record as much as i am he'd disown me

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

seriously more than half of the things i listen to now i loathed only a couple of years ago.
-- jaxon, Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:17 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

― jaxon, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha otm

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

my chest is hairy enough for this record, but my head is not

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

― dan selzer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

haha. omg (The Internet)

i was joking w/my friend before i started my site that i wanted it to be sorta like bumrocks and lovefingers and i was gonna call it BumFingers

― jaxon, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

is that guy from NY?

― jaxon, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

speaking of bumrocks. Lindstrom is guest hosting it for a week.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 22:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

i mean Prins Thomas :-/

― jaxon, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 22:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think my favorite track on Map of Africa is "Freaky Ways" (and Dirty Lovin' but I heard that a long time ago)

some of the lyrics are pretty cringeworthy .... I guess that's what they were "going for" at times but my wife laughed out loud at the title track

gonna make a map of africa
all in your pretty head, babe
gonna make a map of africa
as I already said, babe

― dmr, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh and whoever talked about Chilly's For Your Love (selzer I think) big-time THANKS, I found it over the weekend and it's awesome

― dmr, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah but "map of africa" (the song) is yoga flame for all time just for gonna find out where your delta lies

also make sure you get "for your love (suite)", it's waaaaaay better than the 4-minute version.

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

I got some german comp. lp that has the 9-minute version

― dmr, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think i already posted this here, but:

a friend asked harvey what "map of africa" meant. he said it was "the wet spot left on the mattress after lovemaking."

dmr - have u heard the idjuts edit of "for your love" on the phantom slasher LP?

smokin.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

i haven't - any chance you could up an' email me that?

― BleepBot, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 02:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

nope I haven't heard phantom slasher

― dmr, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 02:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

another key line from Get Outta Bed:

OH, BLESS MY SOUL
BLESS MY MUTHAFUKIN ASSHOLELELELLOL

― dmr, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 02:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

bleep & dmr:

check leo thread. i tried to rip the whole thing, but a few tracks on my copy skip :(((( maybe v4hid has a decent version?

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 06:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

^^^whole thing meaning whole PS LP.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 06:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

beep me 911

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 07:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

What's the "leo thread"? Also, I've never know cause I just don't get it, but judging from the above, I think I now understand "yoga flame for all time" to be a positive statement. Anybody care to to explain?

― matt2, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 15:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Street Fighter

― Confounded, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Tynan.

― jim, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCN_cOhC7oQ

― jaxon, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

man, that was so much worse than i remembered

― jaxon, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

A few more tracks from Phantom Slasher Here.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

^^^most skewed good selection/good writing ratio of any blog i've come accross.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 18:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha, 90% of the posts on american athlete are about lindstrom/prins thomas/terje/idjuts/permanent vacation! Guy is shameless.

― Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

and 8% are about his own releases.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

i bet jaxon or v4hid knows who he is IRL.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 19:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.tropicalcomputersystem.com/morg.jpg

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

"some bear on its back" hahaha

― andrew m., Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

lol grate flyer.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha. i designed a flyer like that for my uncle a few years ago. so epic.

i bet jaxon or v4hid knows who he is IRL.

is American Athelete dude from SF or something? he does look like everyone i know (myself included)

― jaxon, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh, he's from seattle.

― jaxon, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

ha. he's actually got ilxor/friend of jaxon's cameron octigan in his myspace top 12

― jaxon, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 20:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh, i thought he was bay-area for some reason.

― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

A freind dropped this on me the other night:
Andreas Vollenweider - Behind The Gardens ... Behind The Wall ... Under The Tree ...

Fucking GREAT swiss harpist balearic fusion smoked out electro acoustic voyage....
-- g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:23 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

does anyone remember when andreas vollenweider was pretty much universally loathed? my co-workers reminded me that CTI was the same way once upon a time...
-- BATTAGS, Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:37 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

ha. i picked up a vollenweider album yesterday for a buck and both of these descriptions are so true. it's like the coolest/grooviest, but at the same time cheesiest thing i've ever listened to.

but also on the top of my stacks near the record player i have 2 michael franks records, something by japanese smooth jazz group Casiopea, jan hammer's miami vice soundtrack, Sky (electro-cosmic new age), and michael columbier's "old fool back on earth" (double album/ four part operatic suite that sounds like Escalator Over the Hill filtered through keith jarret & a bit of disco). seriously wtf. i'm so torn on all the music i listen to lately.

― jaxon, Thursday, 31 May 2007 00:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

also, how is it ok that i listened to that Dire Straits album totally unironically and totally dug it just now? it kinda reminds me of MoA :-/

― jaxon, Thursday, 31 May 2007 07:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

the map of africa lp gives me a raging god-boner

― GOD, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

i dont understand how its possible to not hump something while you listen to this

― GOD, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

like i just put it on my stereo and all of a sudden the room smells like sex

― GOD, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

and then "creation myth" comes on and im like WTF BLADE RUNNER

― GOD, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think this record is making me stoned

― GOD, Friday, 1 June 2007 03:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

i bought a two-disc andreas vollenweider set for $5 - it's called "the trilogy", and it features "white winds", "caverna magica" and "behind the gardens" ... good stuff

i'm gonna look into sky and cassiopeia, thx jaxon ...

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

best new MoA track = "the bone"

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

So do we know yet when the CD version is coming out, or if it'll be as absurdly limited as the LP? Because I really really really like this, especially "Creation Myth," and a clean digital copy would be aces.

― Telephone thing, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

check yr email telephone thing

― max, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thanks! Very much appreciated.

― Telephone thing, Friday, 1 June 2007 05:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

vahid, don't search for casiopeia. it's not that good. i have a single that i sorta like that's sunny balearic jazzy disco, but it's definitely on the verge of just straight smooth jazz. i think i could do a re-edit and cut out the worst bits. the full length album i have i don't think is good.

― jaxon, Friday, 1 June 2007 06:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh, and there are probably like 50 bands named Sky. look for the one w/Francis Monkman and guitarist John williams

― jaxon, Friday, 1 June 2007 06:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

The MoA LP is great, once your affective shield is lowered, which mine most certainly now is (although Sky? fercrissakes, we've got to draw a line somewhere). However, for the most part it's not actually very 'cosmic'-sounding (as in spacy and out there, not the italian club or whatever), and it's at its best when it is. My favourite track from the singles was actually Off the coast, which appears in a different version here as Ely Cathedral. I love that whole psychedelic east anglia, sound of the fens, thing they're pushing, cos it's so weird. The track Map of Africa is fantastic as well, though.

Obviously part of the point of it is to open our ears to a kind of rock that is SO unfashionable, but also to have a laugh (if you listen to the interview on that Disco Devils mix they seem to think it's hilarious that they've started a rock band). And that sense that they're not entirely serious gets in the way a bit for me.

― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

By 'not entirely serious' I of course mean that they're taking the piss.

"Cut off shorts-uh. On a vicar's daughter".

Er, yes, well.

― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 1 June 2007 09:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

decent Prins Thomas interview:
http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/da/54168

― Michael F Gill, Saturday, 2 June 2007 00:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hadn't realized that Andreas Vollenweider already recieved the Todd Terje Treatment:

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/250710-01.htm&highlight=on%20the%20beach

― g®▲đұ, Saturday, 2 June 2007 00:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

hey dmr:

h4rvey played about 12 minute of Supernature last nite and people went nuts like they rarely do in HNL. mixed out of it into this:

http://www.discogs.com/release/899544
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF254743-01-01-01.mp3

― g®▲đұ, Saturday, 2 June 2007 20:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

nice! yeah I need to get some of those wurst edits. I have heard a couple on beats in space or whatever and listened to them at the store but didn't get any yet.

been listening to supernature sooo much lately

However, for the most part it's not actually very 'cosmic'-sounding (as in spacy and out there, not the italian club or whatever), and it's at its best when it is.

otm. "Creation Myth" is one of the best tracks but it's a 2-minute-long instrumental ...

― dmr, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Obviously part of the point of it is to open our ears to a kind of rock that is SO unfashionable

ummm ... not so much out on the west coast. i remember 10 years ago in college, dudes who were putting on kit clayton and carl craig shows in san francisco were unironically pushing peter frampton and rush records on me

― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

and dudes like doc martin and the hardkiss guys have always repped for hendrixes and doors and so forth ... and stoner rock is still much much more popular out here than minimal house (or even postpunk or freak folk)

i hate to say it but from my perspective this bold beardo house thing might be almost more of an accomodation to the listening sensibilities of a crowd who no doubt know carl craig's gavin + delia remix but might not know who xpress 2 is.

― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 2 June 2007 21:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

― jaxon, Sunday, 3 June 2007 02:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

are beardo edits the new electroclash?

― g®▲đұ, Sunday, 3 June 2007 02:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

mike simonetti started that exact thread a year or so ago.

are disco edits the new electroclash?

anyway, Runaway is Jacques Renault and Marcos Cabral.

― dan selzer, Sunday, 3 June 2007 03:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

sorry, you're probably referencing that thread...

― dan selzer, Sunday, 3 June 2007 03:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm listening to the orb's remix of material's "praying mantra", it's very cosmic innit

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 3 June 2007 03:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

― Confounded, Monday, 11 June 2007 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

hay confounded how was the harvey set in NYC last month?

― gr8080, Monday, 11 June 2007 18:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

TS:
Silver Connection "Fly Robin Fly"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM72iWami9M
vs.
Belle Epoque "Miss Broadway"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYkFFj1PTqU
vs.
Venus Gang "Spacer Woman"
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/mp3/Venus%20Gang%20-%20Space%20Woman.mp3

― jaxon, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

Belle Epoque by landslide (gravel provided in vox)

― Craig D., Friday, 29 June 2007 23:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

How can one be better? They're all the ame song!

― jaxon, Saturday, 30 June 2007 00:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

But...that intro!

― Craig D., Saturday, 30 June 2007 00:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here are the thoughts that went through my head as I watched the Fly Robbin Fly video:

1. Is there a new song called Fly Robin Fly?
2. Did Michelle Gondry direct this video?
3. This is kind of a cool sound, the snare is very tight and there's a weird spacey vibe to it.
4. Did some new band cover Fly Robin Fly?!
5. Holy shit, this is the original.

― filthy dylan, Saturday, 30 June 2007 02:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

ooooh im on my 3rd carlsberg and the map of africa album is sounding so good. i'm gonna be playing this a lot, its hard not to get bimble-esque bout this, its so awesome, i love it! 'balearic rock style' is pretty on point. 'freaky ways' is my fave. title track and 'dirty lovin' coming a close second obv.

― Michael B, Saturday, 7 July 2007 00:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Version of Black skin blue eyed boys made me want to commit murder.

― jim, Saturday, 7 July 2007 00:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeahhh, odd choice of cover ill admit

― Michael B, Saturday, 7 July 2007 01:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

not sure where this fits into things really, and i can't find any discussion of this guy around here, but mark e has a really nice mix up at cool in the pool. really making this drizzly day.

― andrew m., Tuesday, 10 July 2007 19:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

looped steel drum (?) coolness! hiro ohta. nice.

― andrew m., Tuesday, 10 July 2007 20:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

where is the Fixx's "Reach the Beach" instrumental dub from? could it be an edit that jazzanova did? it's not on the LP and there doesn't seem to be a 12" listed on discogs.

― jaxon, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

oh, it's the b-side to One thing Leads to another

One Thing Leads To Another (12")
a) One Thing Leads To Another 8:00
Extended remix
b) Reach The Beach (dub) 4:06
Instrumental

MCA FIXXT 5, UK PS 1983

― jaxon, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.myspace.com/stillg0ing

eric of rub'n'tug & and Olivier Spencer of Manthraxx & Mr. Negative.

ON DFA!

― jaxon, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 07:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

it's wonderful. i wonder when it's coming out?

― haitch, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 12:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

The song will also be featured on James Murphy and Pat Mahoney’s (LCD Soundsystem) upcoming Fabric Live mix.

nice

― dmr, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

I probably should have known this already but it also says they did the How & Why record on Rong

― dmr, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

eric and olivier I mean, not james murphy and pat mahoney

― dmr, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

OMG this Map of Africa lp is completely burning my mind right now.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 July 2007 01:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

they had a copy of the MOA at thee record store last week! and i passed it up. :(

― haitch, Monday, 16 July 2007 01:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

The CD is out now and still relatively easy to get- Sounds of the Universe, Juno, Boomkat, etc. all have copies. I think it's a limited run, just not as insanely limited as Whatever We Want vinyl.

― Telephone thing, Monday, 16 July 2007 02:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

OMG this Map of Africa lp is completely burning my mind right now.

Can we agree to disagree

― Confounded, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

I like this genre, but that Map of Africa lp is shitty dad music.

― Dan I., Wednesday, 25 July 2007 04:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

that's totally the point

― jaxon, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

shitty dads need music too.

― haitch, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 06:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ha, well then why listen to Map of Africa at all? You can go to any bar and see baby boomer white guys playing classic rock covers and embarrassing attempts at blues.

― Dan I., Wednesday, 25 July 2007 07:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

did you listen to the rest of the record? that's only like 3 songs

― jaxon, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 07:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I was just about to say that it's probably just the last few tracks that skewed my perception of the rest of it. But a few people have mentioned how much they like "Bone", which is the one I really detest, so I guess whatever it is I'm hating is exactly what some other people like. Anyway, really strange.

― Dan I., Wednesday, 25 July 2007 07:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.timeout.com/chicago/outandabout/?p=2568

― deej, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 09:41 (5 years ago) Permal

BEARDO DISCO (finally fixed for vahid) - not idjuts / lindstrom - harvey, rub'n'tug, map of africa