Bob Seger Reissue News

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

Regardless, Chuck to thread. Even though I know he hates that phrase.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

How about Mongrel next please Capitol?

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 May 2005 23:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00081U6IW/ref=pm_dp_ln_m_2/104-2836217-1475920?v=glance&s=music&vi=samples

I love "Ride!" by Dee Dee Sharp.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

East Side Story/East Side Sound (Cameo 438) 1966
Sock It To Me, Santa/Florida Time (Cameo 444) 1966
Persecution Smith/Chain Smokin' (Cameo 465) 1966
Vagrant Winter/Very Few (Cameo 743) 1967
Heavy Music/Heavy Music, pt 2 (Cameo 494) 1967

"Persecution Smith," "Vagrant Winter," "Very Few" -- that's some of the best U.S. rock and roll of the mid-sixties. The stuff is in league with, say, Beefheart's Safe as Milk.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

I still haven't dug out my "Vagrant Winter" 45 since that noize board thread, Tim! I will try to tonite.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Pete Best was, as many of you will know, the original drummer with The Beatles, who was ousted to make way for Ringo Starr. Decca were quick to sign his new outfit but they lacked the talent to make it. Pete Best also recorded 45s and albums in the US for labels like Cameo, Mr. Maestro and Happening. One of his best, The Way I Feel About You, was a pretty grungy beat-punk effort.

Best also made some recordings with Joe Meek shortly after departing the Beatles, however none have subsequently seen the light of day."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

THE BEST OF HIDEOUT RECORDS

1 Bob Seger & The Last Heard East Side Story
2 Underdogs Get Down On Your Knees
3 Pleasure Seekers Never Thought You'd Leave Me
4 Henchmen Please Tell Me
5 Mushrooms Burned
6 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Heavy Music
7 Underdogs Don't Pretend
8 Bottle Company Lives For No One
9 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Persecution Smith
10 Yorkshires I Go Crazy
11 Mushrooms Such A Lovely Child
12 Underdogs The Man In The Glass
13 4 Of Us You're Gonna Be Mine
14 Yorkshires Hey, Hey, Hey
15 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Chain Smokin'
16 Underdogs Friday At The Hideout
17 Underdogs Surprise, Surprise
18 Bob Seger System Lookin' Back
19 D. Dodger Ballad Of The Yellow Beret
20 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Vagrant Winter
21 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Florida Time
22 Bob Seger & The Last Heard East Side Sound
23 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Heavy Music, Part 2
24 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Sock It To Me, Santa

It's available from the address at the bottom of this page (or so I think. . .I got my copy a year or so ago):

http://www.psychotronic.info/ioam/hideout_records.htm

― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

Back in '72 is great!! Noah is ... not so hot. Neither is Brand New Morning for that matter. I think he was still getting his head together. I actually found a nice Back in '72 for .50 at this university divinity school book sale where they had a small pile of like 50 records. And there was Back in '72 just waiting for me! It kinda made up for the fact that I paid through the nose for my Noah...

Yeah, re: Hideout, there's also this slightly more above-ground looking thing on Norton --

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NKIC/qid%3D1115082877/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-4204839-3895845

the Underdogs were great! actually Tim, I thought of you the other day when I scouring the dollar bin, cuz I found a copy of the second ROMANTICS album, and it turns out they do a cover of "Friday at the Hideout" on it!! See, the Romantics were cool. I didn't buy it though, for some strange reason.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

― corey c (shock of daylight), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 06:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

Um, I was here. I think people kinda already know what I think (same thing lots of others here might think): It's great that some of the stuff is resurfacing, but Seger will not be able to claim the Greatest Rock'n'Roll Album in the History of the Universe Award until all his early mid '60s to mid '70s punk rock singles are compiled in one place (and probably some tracks like "Lucifer" or "U.M.C." that may never have been actual singles per se'; I dunno, I'm too lazy to check now.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

Someone was telling me about a clip they'd seen of Seger doing Ramblin' Gamblin' Man on TV w/him switching between gtr and organ on the verses and choruses. I'd love to see that.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Bob Seger's "Night Moves": C or D

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

― brianiac (briania), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4723111324&rd=1

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

Would something like this qualify?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4726135862&rd=1

It seems to be a pretty obvious boot. Is there really a "Hall of Fame" records in Europe?

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4725110613&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

screw CDs.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

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― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

(xp)

The Hall of Fame comp that o.nate linked to looks great, but is missing a lot of tracks that i'd consider mandatory (lucifer, back in '72, u.m.c., ramblin gamblin man, rosalie, etc). A couple times on this board I've mentioned a vinyl bootleg best of seger's early years album i passed up at sam's jams in ferndale (which had a big pile of them) sometime in the early '80s, because i was to cheap to shell out 15 bucks or whatever. easily the dumbest missed record purchase of my life, and the last few times i checked, there was no evidence on the internet that such a record had ever even existed (assuming i didn't dream it in the first place, which is seeming more and more like a possibility, the older i get.) (i think it *may* have been on "seeds and stems records," also responsible for the legedary *michigan rocks* compilation, but maybe not.)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

time to sell off those ? and the mysterians boots!!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

xp

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=2597702098

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

well hell, that *is* a super-cool cover! why did he ever grow a beard?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

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― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4726134005&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

I did, late last year, when my old turntable completely stopped working! But all I play on it is used vinyl I find, usually, so the needle doesn't stay "new" long. And that sounds perfectly fine to me! I'm not gonna replace it every couple months; I have better things to spend money on, and it wouldn't make a difference to me anyway. I've never been an audiophile at all. Audiophiles are nuts.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4719563460&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

That's true, but if you're talking about something like the Airwolf soundtrack, the chance of that coming back into print must be pretty close to nil, so it's a pretty safe investment for a collector.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://www.airwolfthemes.com/awtworldrecord.html

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

xp

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't recall it being anything special, but that was a long time ago.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

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― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4725497713&rd=1

Sorry! Last one! Commence Segering!

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

This is some serious bullshit. Outside of "UMC" and "Get Of Denver," how is any of this stuff what anybody would want on a good "early Seger" compilation?? (Not that I go to Meijer's much nowadays anyway.)

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/bob-seger-raids-vaults-for-early-seger-set-1004033025.story

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

The tracklist just seems totally random.

And wtf??: Highlights of the collection are four unreleased tracks, three of which -- "Star Tonight," "Wildfire" and "Days When the Rain Would Come" -- were written during the early '80s

I guess that's "early" compared to, like, the late '00s?

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

weird. the track-listing is just weird. and dumb. and a wasted opportunity.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

because, you know, most know bob seger from his recent work like....uh....um....he did a chevy ad a few years back right?

face it -- the guy does not want his early singles reissued. we will see them over his dead body, i think.

― amateurist, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

i mean, don johnson throwaways? thanks, bob.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

On the other hand, this is way beyond wishful thinking, but I can see how it might conceivably make some small sense from a business perspective -- Cut an exclusive deal with Meijer, pull a fast one on them by giving them all this useless crap that nobody wants, then save all the actual in-demand rarities for Walmart or Target or Cracker Barrel or somewhere...

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

If he wanted to reissue Ramblin' Gamblin' Man or Back in '72 on CD, he could do it easily. His last album sold really well. But he doesn't want to, presumably because of some rights issue(s).

― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

My buddy put the song "Vagrant Winter" on a mix for me (he found the 45 somewhere in Chicago). It completely rules.
I have always wanted to hear "Heavy Music" but I'm beginning to think it will never happen.

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

that early stuff is floating around the interwebs. i managed to find it. if i can remember i can try to post it sometime.

― amateurist, Thursday, 5 November 2009 00:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would think "Heavy Music" would be by far one of the easier of those tracks to find -- Smokin' OPs was only reissued on CD four years ago. (See top of this thread.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 November 2009 00:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

plus, if you just want to HEAR it, it's on youtube.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 02:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

i love most faux dylanisms, but bob's was top-notch.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 02:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love the idea of a Meijer exclusive though. Meijer Thrifty Acres - Why Pay More? Meijer is a union grocery chain and a lot of people in Michigan won't shop at Wal-Mart b/c of their anti-union stance. So the fact that Seger hooked up with Meijer almost outweighs this supremely dodgy track selection.

― Mark, Thursday, 5 November 2009 02:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

that is true.

― amateurist, Thursday, 5 November 2009 03:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow, re-recorded vocals, horns and other overdubs. what a sweetheart package!

there's a bootleg of seger singles called "'66-'67" that has the good stuff. also has "ballad of the yellow beret." and "santa's got a brand new bag."

― a 40-foot-long electrified pickle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 5 November 2009 05:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

I didn't really think it would never happen.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, 5 November 2009 06:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Meijer Thrifty Acres

aka Meijer's Shifty Fakirs when I lived in Michigan.

gonna skip this seger set in favor of the rationals reissue. "leaving here" is the equal of any early seger IMHO>

― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Thursday, 5 November 2009 11:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

LOL @ bob rockin' that headband

― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Thursday, 5 November 2009 11:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

i forgot about that rationals reissue. goddamn they were great.

― a 40-foot-long electrified pickle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 5 November 2009 13:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

What Rationals reissue?? (Way skeptical that their best comes anywhere near Seger's best, but I like what I've heard. Scott Morgan put out a cool single in the early '80s called "16 With A Bullet" too -- I reviewed it in the Voice and interviewed him for Creem when it came out, but naturally I don't have it anymore.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 November 2009 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

haven't heard this yet. looks like there's filler -- 2 cds but nothing from their 1970 album? anyway their singles are great garage rock.

― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Thursday, 5 November 2009 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

sorry about that ^^ (mods feel free to delete)

― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Thursday, 5 November 2009 14:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

their singles are great garage rock

Pretty generic, though, right? Which Seger's early singles almost never were. (At least, that's the impression I've always had about them. In fact, I guess in my mind I've always thought of the Rationals as, say, Detroit's answer to the Rascals or something. Blue-eyed-soul rock. Which is fine, but not exactly indispensible since Detroit already had Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels. I could be way off, though.) (Also just looked it up and discovered that the Rationals, Rascals, and Ryder all recorded their debut singles in 1965 -- So it's likely more like they were on similar wavelengths than anybody mimicking anything else.)

Agree with Mark's point about Meijer as a union shop, btw; now wonder whether that was an impetus for Seger's decision (in which case, it's admittedly an very cool move), or mere coincidence. ("Thrifty Fakirs" also sounds familiar, deep in my Michigan-smartass subconscious.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 November 2009 14:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

a cover of Tim Hardin's "If I Were a Carpenter"

"If I Were Near Carpenter and Ellsworth," more like.

― Andy K, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.meijer.com/atstores/main.jsp?storeNumber=27

― Andy K, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

they are committed to familyness. i think we can all get behind that:

Familyness
We are a company that is committed to you; we care about you and your family by providing positive solutions to your everyday problems.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Whole lotta letter 'y's in that statement. Just saying.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

how do you pronounce meijer anyway? meeeeeejer or major or my-er or may-her or meeeeeJar or my-whore?

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

just remember, ned, there's no WHY? in familyness.

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's "my-er". My in-laws are from Grand Rapids and are big Meijer boosters---they even have nicknames for the various Meijers near their house. We shopped there for a while when we lived in South Bend. It's just like Wal-Mart, big and crowded.

― Euler, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

There is no WHY? in familyness. i am totally making that a t-shirt. I'm gonna sell it exclusively at Meijers.

today i saw this guy wearing a t-shirt that read:

gay? that's fine by me.

(and i couldn't figure out whether he was fine with ME or other people being gay or if when people yelled GAY! at him that he was fine by that. like, it wouldn't bother him. i'm still trying to figure it out...)

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

After fruitlessly search t'internet for a download, I found the '66-'67 boot from this store:

http://www.midnightrecords.com/psych2.html

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

i encourage everyone here and everyone that you know to sell cdr bootlegs of bob seger's early singles. then you might actually see an official release. of course, they remain on youtube (some, not all) and nobody seems to care, so, i dunno...

― scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

I ordered a copy on the strength of youtube, I'm a sucker for anything with that much vox top boost abuse in it.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wow, that is one stunningly pointless compilation. From all of Back in '72 he selects an indifferent Allman Brothers cover instead of the title cut or "Rosalie" or even "Turn The Page"? And two tracks from Smokin' O.P.s, even though the '05 reissue is still (afaik) available in stores?? And adds George Lucas-style "extensive re-recordings" to "Long Song Comin'" - as well as new horns/vocals/whatever to a buncha '80s songs that were probably left unreleased for good reason, if they weren't up to the quality standards set by "Shakedown" and "Like A Rock"??? And finally calls it "Vol. 1", which implies that many more equally haphazard grab-bags are on the way???? That goes beyond mere indifference - it's as though he deliberately spent a lot of effort creating the most awesomely awful compilation imaginable.

I'll stick with my CDs and remastered-from-scratchy-vinyl CDrs, thanks. (And will cheerfully assemble a real nice proper collection from anybody who requests one.)

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Will you now. (Please?)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'd like that too! I haven't heard any of Seeger's early stuff, but this thread suggests that I need to.

― tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bob? That's fine by me.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Heck, count me in, too. It'd be nice to have all that stuff (some of which I don't have in any form whatsoever) in one place.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

If you'll put something up it would be great---I love the 70s albums I have but I've only ever heard the earlier songs on youtube.

― Euler, Thursday, 5 November 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

haven't heard this yet. looks like there's filler -- 2 cds but nothing from their 1970 album?

I think there's a second Rationals set in the pipeline, with the 70 album and some other stuff. Should be out next year.

― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'd love to get in on that Seger stuff.

I wonder about that Think Rational comp, mostly because I have a previous Rationals comp also called Think Rational, which is mostly meh. Lots of muddy recordings of songs that probably sounded great live in the moment, but haven't held up.

Morgan's shows are still great, even though going out means convincing yourself to see a band called Powertrane, which, no surprise, plays some pretty Blues Hammer stuff. It's got a bunch of great local musicians in it though, and they have a hell of a lot of fun on stage (including Chris Taylor, the guitarist for Mazinga and The Avatars, who's unfortunately never going to make it out of Southeast Michigan).

He's also pretty huge in England and Scandinavia—well, relatively. But he can support touring with a twelve-member band in the UK, and he's got projects with the guys from the Hives that are OK.

I know that a Sonic's Rendezvous box (which Scott was also in) came out a couple years back, though I never had $50 at a time to get it. Oh, and if you get a chance to hear it, the Scott's Pirates stuff that he did in the '80s is pretty fun too—sort of in between Bob Seger and Marshal Crenshaw.

― Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Saturday, 7 November 2009 19:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

MVB I also would welcome a well curated early comp

― sleeve, Saturday, 7 November 2009 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would as well.

― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 November 2009 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

hai, MVB! i too would like in on some of this hot early Seger action please. da man can't bust our music, man! word.

― the not-fun one (Ioannis), Sunday, 8 November 2009 08:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wow, such popular demand! I've gotten a 79-minute assortment all assembled and ready to go. Anyone who wants one, just email and let me know whether you'd prefer a CD-R or files sent electronically. (And I'd appreciate any recommendations regarding the best, simplest way to achieve the latter, other than simply sending mp3s via email, which is my current default method. I'm fairly clueless about this stuff.)

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Giorgio, amateurist, I haven't forgot about you guys! I just need to know whether you'd prefer a CD-R or emailed files...

Anybody else? Tripmaker? Tylerw?

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 16 November 2009 03:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

you got my email right? let me know if you need more technical advice.

― sleeve, Monday, 16 November 2009 06:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

hi there. i guess emailed files would be best! also: you are fantastic. thanks!

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2009 07:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

need this so bad!

― Brio, Monday, 16 November 2009 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

just sent an email! thanks, man! I usually use sendspace.com -- just drag the mp3s into a new folder, create an archive zip file of that folder and upload.

― tylerw, Monday, 16 November 2009 16:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Appreciate the sendspace info, tylerw - by now, you'll be the first recipient (if I didn't screw it up somehow...)

Sleev, your CDR is in the mail; ditto xhuxk. Anybody know Bob Seger's address? - I'd like to send him one too! And tell him that I'd happily pay 15 bucks for a nice shiny remastered and lovingly-packaged version of same...

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

looool

thanking u most sincerely

― sleeve, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

man, i want one of these. are you gonna sendspace this mvb?

― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeahhhhh -- this was waiting for me in my inbox this morning. Myonga Vön Bontee -- internet hero of the week! thanks, dude!

― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thanks senor Bontee!

― Durian Durian (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anybody know Bob Seger's address?

Not me. But he lives in Orchard Lake, Michigan, and his middle-school-age kids are due to attend my alma mater West Bloomfield High School. Or at least that's where he was two years ago, when I interviewed him for Billboard. (I had to give his publicist my phone # in New York, and he called me. He didn't talk much, if at all, about the status of his oldest music, but it's possible I didn't prod him much.)

By the way, do people know about this book? It's not bad. Great photos, anyway. Not a ton of text, but what's there is often informative:

http://www.bobseger.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/product?sourceCode=BSEWEB&sku=BSE47713

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yay, apparently I did it right: SENDSPACE FILES FOR ALL!! I'll try and get everyone taken care of tonight; if I overlook anyone, just give me a reminder in a day or two.

xpost - Pretty cool that Bob still lives in Michigan. Info-wise, the best website I know of is segerfile.com. The creator flat-out claims it's the best Seger site on the web, and it's hard to disagree.

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

So apparently a bunch of the songs (e.g. "Mongrel") are only 15 seconds long? Did something go wrong in my download? Are any of the rest of you who got this finding the same thing?

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Saturday, 21 November 2009 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe those are the wma files? i was actually just coming on here to ask if anyone knew how to convert wmas to mp3s ... The mp3s sound great, btw! But I can't play wmas on my itunes ...

― tylerw, Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe that's it...I converted the wma's using some freeware but maybe it screwed things up.

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's def. the wma conversion. I need to try another program, I guess. (on mac)

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was actually just coming on here to ask if anyone knew how to convert wmas to mp3s ... The mp3s sound great, btw! But I can't play wmas on my itunes ...

― tylerw,
dunno the answer to your question, but i could ysi ramblin' gamblin' man and mongrel in mp3 if you like. offer open...

― controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

would dig Mongrel; am presently rocking to Ramblin' Gamblin' Man (the album); "Black Eyed Girl" is pretty heavy!

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

no problem. i'll wait a bit to see if anyone else wants and i'll plan on sending this afternoon

― controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

The version of iTunes for PC will automatically convert WMAs to MP3s or M4As when you drag the WMAs into the library. iTunes for Mac does not do this, sadly. I took Myonga's comp to my work and converted it there.

― make love to a c.h.u.d. in the club (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah would love to get the mp3s of that stuff ... or m4as, whatevs.

― tylerw, Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

whew the "Love The One You're With" on this comp is smoking.

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^ totally.

― make love to a c.h.u.d. in the club (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hey, this is totally sweet! I'd also love the mp3s!

― Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Sunday, 22 November 2009 03:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Meaning that I got the zip from sendspace, the songs that I can play are really great, and I can't play wmas.

Also, I was enjoying how, when heard from a distance, Bob Seger doesn't sound that far from Captain Beefheart.

― Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

If it's still possible, I'd like a CD-R of this, thanks.

― jetfan, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

how did he get away with "persecution smith"? on the one hand, it doesn't really seem like parody. on the other, it's one of the most shameless bob dylan imitations on record--everything from the melody to the arrangement to the lyrics to the singing style. although i noticed that seger does get it on "white soul" howl in there, very undylanesque.

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 23 November 2009 02:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^yeah, he readily admitted to its being a total Dylan rip, except it's about Mr. Smith instead of Mr. Jones...

OK, round two! I'd considered checking back to see if there were any issues with the Windows Media files. I'll convert the remaining wmas to mp3 and re-transmit (or send a CDR) upon request to anyone who still needs one

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 23 November 2009 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'd prefer mp3s---I've tried to convert the wmas and failed.

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 06:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's weird how he goes from the ballad of the yellow beret to 2+2=?
Thanks very much for this, btw.

― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Euler, maybe cym, i yousent mp3's to your gmail add'y on Sunday i think it was

― controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

xpost I also found that striking, the array of points on the political spectrum I encountered listening through the set.

― make love to a c.h.u.d. in the club (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he even says "go ahead and call me yellow" in 2+2. It's like an answer song to himself.

― Brio, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's like following up "Night Moves" with an ode to abstinence.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

― Brio, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's like following up "Night Moves" with an ode to abstinence.

― tylerw, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:57 PM (22 minutes ago)

i lol'ed

― Plunge Protection Team, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

outdoor_miner---thanks! I received Mongrel and it's awesome! The wma's are in the compilation of early singles that MVB sent; I think there are some songs from Seven in that batch that I don't have, and I'd love to hear them. Obv. you guys are doing the work and if I'm being too demanding then just ignore me.

― Yah Kid A (Euler), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

In a perfect world, this would be about Myonga's CD-R (which I might decide to take to desert island, if I could only take one album, btw):

BOB SEGER’S GREATEST HITS IS THE DECADE’S BEST-SELLING CATALOG ALBUM

Nielsen SoundScan and Billboard Confirm Title’s Unparalleled Success, Approaching Nine Million in U.S. Sales Alone

Hollywood, California – December 16, 2009 - Bob Seger’s Greatest Hits is officially the decade’s best-selling catalog album in the U.S., it has been confirmed by Billboard and Nielsen’s music sales tracking system, SoundScan. Since its 1994 debut, Seger’s Greatest Hits has sold close to nine million copies and enjoyed an unbroken two-year streak on the Billboard Top 200 before moving to the upper reaches of Billboard’s Catalog Albums chart for 660 weeks.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Myonga, if you're still offering, I'd love a copy of your comp, mp3, CDR, whatever works for you. Thanks!

― dad a, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

scored a 45 copy this morning of bob's *if i were a carpenter/jesse james* single on the detroit label, palladium. sounds great.

now i want a cdr! i forgot to ask for one. myonga if you could send me a physical copy i'd send you something cool back.

― scott seward, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Scott, the satisfaction of filling a hole in someone's collection (and amazement that I own something that you lack, aside from Uncle Sam's original-nude-cover "Heaven or Hollywood") is its own reward! I wouldn't know where to begin asking for something in return.

Dad A, if you've got no preference, I'll send you the Sendspace link when i get home. (Probably preferable to relying on the post office at this time of year, it just now occurs to me...)

I wouldn't mind an honourable mention in the "2009's Best Reissues" thread! (Make my mother proud)

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 December 2009 22:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ha, I actually considered voting for the CD-R at the top of my Pazz & Jop ballot. Probably would have, if it had an official name and fake label or whatever. (Maybe should have anyway, but I chickened out.)

― xhuxk, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

But actually, it's a very late 2009 release, right? So if Myonga gives it a proper name (on Myonga Records??), maybe I'll pencil it in for the next year's ballot. (A shoo-in for the #1 spot!)

― xhuxk, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

I encourage this idea!

― sleeve, Saturday, 19 December 2009 01:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'll vote for it next year!

― scott seward, Saturday, 19 December 2009 01:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

MYONGA VON AWESOME!

I hope the P&J still exists for 2010. Because I hope there are enough bona fide critics around here to put this thing on the chart then. Because I hope that that could get his label to wake up, pay attention and disseminate this properly.

― dad a, Saturday, 19 December 2009 05:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Aw, you guyz...(blushes)

Seriously, tho, Scott & dad: I need your email and/or home addresses before Tuesday, otherwise you'll have to wait 'till the new year when I return from my home away from home (on the Michigan-Ontario border y'all).

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 20 December 2009 23:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

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― scott seward, Sunday, 20 December 2009 23:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

thanks!

― scott seward, Sunday, 20 December 2009 23:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

So Myonga, we still need an official title for your CD-R!

And in other Seger reissue news, my better half gave me that 1966-1967 CD boot (KWR-7033, "2005 Alternative Edge Productions," available afrom Midnight Records) for Xmas; I'd asked for it before Myonga made his collection, and Myonga's is definitely way more comprehensive, but I'm still glad to have both. At least 1966-1967 has a title! Plus a familiar badass alley photo of a teenage Bob on the CD cover (with totally incongruous late '70s photos of him on the other side.) And mainly, four tracks that didn't make Myonga's disc -- "Florida Time" (Beach Boys-wannabee surf-rock), "East Side Sound" (revving dragster rock instrumental version of "East Side Story"), "Very Few" (post-doo-wop), "Heavy Music (Part 2)" (15 seconds longer than the original version, and my ears say not quite as wild, a bpm or two slower and a decibel or two less loud, and Bob says "it's a brand new bag now" in the middle and adds another line or two here and there, and the deeper-and-deeper orgasmic break buildup sounds slightly less raunchy I guess -- what the story, again, of why he re-recorded it?) 12 songs total (compared to Myonga's 27, which obviously covers a much wider span of time), but here's one time I don't mind being a completist. (Oh yeah, sound quality -- you can definitely hear cracks and pops, so I get the idea it's all recorded directly from old 45s.)

― xhuxk, Saturday, 26 December 2009 19:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

Howbout we call it Never Mind the Bullets Here's Early Bob Seger :D

About those absent tracks: "East Side Sound" I don't find particularly interesting; "Florida Time" I excluded because I believe that Bob doesn't appear on it at all, aside from some backing vocals (maybe); "Heavy Music" is in fact my own edit which I should've retitled "Part 3", and which consists of Part 1, with Part 2's "N.S.U., S.R.C..." couplet grafted on top (somewhat sloppily). And yeah, in retrospect I wish I had included the Young Rascals-ish "Very Few", even though it's wildly atypical. I guess I'll just have to offer to email those absentees to whoever wants 'em (I totally empathize with completism!)

Also, did I send out a faulty copy of "UMC"? I was looking for it on my hard drive last week but could only find an incomplete version barely a minute long - the full thing's three minutes and change. If anyone didn't get the complete track, I'll re-send that one too...

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 28 December 2009 10:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry to be a pain about it, but do you have anyway of sending out the WMA tracks as MP3s instead? I've tried to convert the WMAs to MP3s without success. If no that's cool; I understand that it's a hassle to do this.

― Euler, Monday, 28 December 2009 10:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not a hassle at all, I've already done it. I'll send the sendspace link when I'm back from out of town after New Year's.

― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 28 December 2009 16:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Never Mind the Bullets Here's Early Bob Seger

EXCELLENT title! Now let's just hope everybody remembers it, come 2010 Pazz & Jop time. (I'll do my best to keep it fresh in people's minds.)

And yeah, totally agree those 4 other cuts on 66-67 range from expendable to negligible. Not complaining about your selection at all!

― xhuxk, Monday, 28 December 2009 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

How can I get a copy of this???

― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^am also interested

― dnw (cozen), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

anybody have a tracklist handy? i have ramblin' gamblin man and mongrel - wondering what i'm missing

― pobrecito (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 18:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

(xp)^^^

― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

east side story
persecution smith
heavy music
chain smokin'
vagrant winter
remblin' gamblin' man
down home
tales of lucy blue
2+2=?
noah
innervenous eyes
lonely man
death row
highway child
mongrel
lucifer
leanin on my dream
lookin' back
love the one you're with
rosalie
back in 72
i've been workin'
get out of denver
cross of gold
UMC (upper middle class)
ballad of the yellow berets
sock it to me santa

I'll leave it to Myonga to send files but I can reup if necessary

― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 02:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

whoops "ramblin'"

― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 02:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh, i feel like a ninny for sleeping on this the first time around....file me please (someday)!

― pobrecito (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 08:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Me three (four, five...)

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 09:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'll join the queue...

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

If I can also add my name to the list, then yes please.

― city worker, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

PLEASE

― Andy K, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard most of this stuff in over 20 years.

― Andy K, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

That mix sounds incredible. I hear Seger's original version of Rosalie on some XM channel the other day, it's great. Love Thin Lizzy's too.I'd love to get this

― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

also PLEASE

― mickeyrivers, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 18:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Vagrant Winter COOKS

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 18:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haha, haven't checked this thread in awhile! You will all be taken care of within the next few days or so, promise (including those of you who've already sent emails in the past week). I'd get started right now but I'm going out socializing for once...

― Ceci n'est pas une display name (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 20 February 2010 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

...hi everybody! Some of you have gotten 'em and some have not, but I'm not sure who has or hasn't, and the reason is that I've had browser problems which resulted in my inbox totally vanishing, grr. But it appears to be straightened out for the moment, so if you'd like to give it another try, I'm still sc0ttybl✧✧✧@r0g✧✧✧.✧0m (with o's instead of zeroes, of course.) As always, leave an email address for the Sendspace link or home address for a disc.

― Ceci n'est pas une display name (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 11 March 2010 03:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wow, that's ugly! I'll try again:

scottybloom

― Ceci n'est pas une display name (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 11 March 2010 03:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sent

― Mordy, Thursday, 11 March 2010 03:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Chrissakes!

"scottybloom at rogers dot com"!

Gotcha, Mordy, thanks xpost

― Ceci n'est pas une display name (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 11 March 2010 03:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thanks a million, MVB. This stuff cooks.

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 March 2010 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've been loving this stuff ... is everything converted to mp3 now? I could never get those few wav files to play or convert ...

― tylerw, Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

All of them were mp3.

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 13 March 2010 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

why isn't this available on slsk?

― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

What's the correct order for the tracks?

― Mordy, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

ILILM

― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 15 March 2010 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

A thousand thank-yous, Myonga!

― M.V., Monday, 15 March 2010 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sent

mucas gracias!

― Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 March 2010 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

― M.V., Monday, 15 March 2010 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

myonga rules!!!

"persecution smith" is a ridiculous dylan ripoff, sure, but it's got this bubblegummy chorus that suggests he had a monkees LP on the changer, too. maybe even some archies. it's brilliant.

still absorbing the rest.

― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's pretty great. Also: DO YOU SEE how easily the lyrics can be repurposed for laughs to be about 2010 and cr*zy t**b*gg*rs.

Has anyone detected the bowling alley sounds said to be on the early tracks? I can't, but I'm kinda deaf.

― M.V., Wednesday, 17 March 2010 15:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

"persecution smith" is a ridiculous dylan ripoff, sure, but it's got this bubblegummy chorus that suggests he had a monkees LP on the changer, too. maybe even some archies. it's brilliant.

(I think I mentioned this in another Seger thread but) real early on, he played the cafeteria at my dad's high school, and when someone asked him (pointedly, perhaps) to play some Dylan, his response was something like "I don't play Bob Dylan. I play Bob Seger."

― Andy K, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

― Brio, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.freep.com/article/20100326/ENT04/100326021/1371/Seger-surprises-with-fall-tour-plans

― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 27 March 2010 03:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 27 March 2010 13:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey folks, I sent in the CDDB info for Myonga's CDR, so if you have the CDR version you should get the track titles now! One more step in "legitimizing" this, still hoping for P&J votes.

― sleeve, Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thanks, sleeve! (Too bad that the first few I sent have a slightly different sequence...)

― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

whoops! tell me what it is now and I will reconfigure, I need to burn a copy for a friend anyway so I'll do it with the correct order and reup it. I have a hunch it has to do with the placement of "Sock It To Me Santa"...

― bug holocaust (sleeve), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

still hoping for P&J votes

Nearly a third of the way into the year, it's still on track to get 30 of mine.

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

The cdr MVB circulated utterly kills, not a bad track on it. Quite a shock for someone like me who assiciates this guy with "Like A Rock" etc. Frigging awesome!

― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

is there still a dl link for the latest version of this avaliable? I got the earlier version, but that was the one with .wav files ... either way, it is awesome.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mine was just the first download, not the CDR. Anyway, it kills.

― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

tyler I converted the wmv tracks to mp3 and that's what I'm listening to. If nothing else I could up that.

― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

not an emergency, but if you've got the time, that'd be awesome, Jon.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey i never got the email with the link to the CD/mp3s!

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

The cdr MVB circulated utterly kills, not a bad track on it. Quite a shock for someone like me who assiciates this guy with "Like A Rock" etc. Frigging awesome!

Yeah, no bout adoubt it. Along with the Runaways soundtrack, it's the best hard rock 'record' I've listened to this year. If Seger had any sense he'd pay MVB a fee for artistic consulting,
give him a piece per unit sold and put it in stores. Rhino Handmade couldn't have done a better job. That's assuming Seger owns all the rights now.

― Gorge, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Joining the chorus for Myonga's Bob Seger comp. Might get my P&J #1 as well!

― talrose, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn people, give me a link!

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Damn, I was SURE I'd sent you one months ago! When i get home I'll try again. (Or for the first time, as the case may be...)

― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 23:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fuckin Ramblin Gamblin Man Maaaaaaaaan

― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Metal Mike Saunders, last week:

if i may interrupt the 24/7 KE$HA unpaid fanboy promo-work for 5 seconds
this 1970 Seger regional hit 45
was one of the awesomest greatest soundingg 45s EVER
whatever CCR's greatest chartalmost-topper (they had many no.2's, never a no.1 single)
this motherfucker is JUST AS GOOD OR BETTER i mean holy fuckiing whoa WHAT A LEAD VOCAL
and killer guitar riff
1966-1970 bob seger we salute you!
and it's not even his greatest 45....

― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 June 2010 04:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

that would be (for my money, since it's a match for the orig Animals w/Eric Burdon's very greatest singles)
EAST SIDE STORY by Bob Seger and the Last Heard

― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 June 2010 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chuck, this isn't the first time you've blown my mind. Crazy, but I've never heard any early Seger like that before...wow. Awesome. Thank you!!

― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 5 June 2010 05:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn people, give me a link!

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:53 (5 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ could someone pls hook me up w/ this as well??

― just sayin, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would be grateful for a link as well.

― Chris L, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

So, I'm still not going to be alone in giving this 30 Pazz & Jop points this year, right?

― xhuxk, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

me three.

xp

is p&j still a thang?

― Ioannis, Friday, 24 September 2010 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I should remember to check this thread every coupla months or whatever...anyways, I've re-upped the files again, give 'em a try!

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 16 October 2010 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v9h0zm

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 16 October 2010 05:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Grazie!

― Marco Damiani, Saturday, 16 October 2010 06:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

:) thx!

― just sayin, Saturday, 16 October 2010 07:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

yay!

― Ioannis, Saturday, 16 October 2010 10:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cheers - got Ramblin' Gamblin' Man on vinyl last month and it's in heavy rotation at the moment.

Those early tracks on your comp are pretty damn good

― Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Saturday, 16 October 2010 12:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, great stuff on this comp. What is the preferred tracklisting? I just put it in chron order, wasn't sure (rough b/c I didn't want to put "Ballad of the Yellow Beret" first even though I think that is the earliest single). Next time around I'd be happy to u/l this, I've fully tagged it with release years, individual bands, etc. Thanks a lot for making it.

― Mark, Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the link! It's funny to think that these songs would be so surprising to people, but I guess if you didn't grow up in the Detroit area (where many of these were as ubiquitous on local radio as anything by, say, Foghat or Boston) then there's a good chance you haven't heard them yet.

― henry s, Sunday, 17 October 2010 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think i've found the perfect cover photograph for this (awesome) comp. stay tuned as i get my scanner working.

― tylerw, Sunday, 17 October 2010 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am still tuned tylerw

― just sayin, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh right! will get that together. it's kind of an amazing photo.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tyler- where's my cover photo?

And secondly, putting together my best of '10 list and this is one of the reissues. MVB Records the "official" label or are we crediting it differently?

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's how I'm listing it when I give it 30 Pazz & Jop points (hope I'm not alone in that), though I'm open to other suggestions:

Bob Seger – Never Mind the Bullets Here's Early Bob Seger (Myonga CD-R)

― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 December 2010 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

nice piece in the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2010/dec/29/bob-seger-detroit-rock

― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Awesome -- I hope Michael Hann votes in Pazz & Jop! (I've never heard of him before -- does he post on ILX? If not, now I'm starting to wonder just how far and wide Myonga's Seger collection has been distributed in the past year.) I think he overstates the extent to which Seger was musically "conservative" (whatever that even means at this point), and maybe the extent to which punks rejected him any more than Petty or Springsteen (though I say that from a Detroit vantage point, of course, and Hann does go on to mention the Eddie & the Hot Rods and Thin Lizzy covers in the comments section.) I also had no idea that Face The Promise (for which I actually interviewed Seger for Billboard) sold enough to go platinum, either; but according to Wiki, at least, Hann's right.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, "Old Time Rock N Roll" has a musically conservative message by definition, I guess, but "Looking Back" is expressly a song about how nostalgia's not a good thing.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK, for completists' sake, I've uploaded a few more files, just to get those remaining Hideout recordings up there for whoever wants 'em. "Very Few" is a very uncharacteristic ballad but I like it OK. "Florida Time" features Seger on backing vocals only. "East Side Sound" is just "East Side Story"'s backing track with some indifferent lead guitar in place of vocals. And "Heavy Music Part III" is just something I made up myself for the hell of it, a stereo track consisting of Part 1 in one channel and Part 2 in the other.

― If it cannot be notated, then there is no nute. (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 9 January 2011 04:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

And wrt the "album cover", here's my own attempt:

I know, it's pretty sloppy, garish and not too imaginative. But I'm in love with that assortment of record labels.

― If it cannot be notated, then there is no nute. (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 9 January 2011 04:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Grrr...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5495755/bullets3.JPG.html

― If it cannot be notated, then there is no nute. (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 9 January 2011 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's actually fairly decent. Take it on a cd down to the local FedEx office story and have it printed out on photo paper in postcard size. It'll look great, I can pretty much guarantee it, particularly if you can redo the parts as .bmp composite. That will have greater fidelity and resolution.

― Gorge, Sunday, 9 January 2011 07:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's nice, man.

― a special freak who falls outside of all (Ioannis), Sunday, 9 January 2011 10:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

as in keen... neato...

― a special freak who falls outside of all (Ioannis), Sunday, 9 January 2011 10:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

111st Place in Pazz & Jop from just five ballots (points-per-ballot average: 21), not bad!

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/albums/2010/TmV2ZXIgTWluZCB0aGUgQnVsbGV0cyBIZXJlJ3MgRWFybHkgQm9iIFNlZ2Vy/

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Er -- 111th, I meant.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Never would've guessed Tal would be one of those voters.

― Pink Friday XIII (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfniic
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3kmodn
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8o3sfl
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d9siyk

― If it cannot be notated, then there is no nute. (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 04:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

J, you would have guessed it if I'd written anywhere about it, but I haven't yet. I pitched it to a couple places this year, but apparently no one was interested in a compilation confirming that Bob Seger's early work is some of the greatest rock music ever committed to tape. Their loss. I'm glad that guy from The Guardian wrote something, but I'd still like to see an epic early-Seger piece that somehow gets Bob's attention and lets him give the reins over to Myonga to release this excellent, excellent album.

― talrose, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hi guy, I saw the #111 placement of "Never Mind the Bullets Here's Early Bob Seger" which led me here via Google. Sounds like a greeat comp. Nothing off "Brand New Morning" though? Not even "Louise"?

Anyway, I thought you guys might get a kick out of this thing I put together last year, "101 Reasons This Is the Greatest Rock and Roll Photo Ever," at least partially inspired by Darnielle's old ilxor thread about "Ignition (remix)." Seger fans need to at least check out the photo: http://www.gloriousnoise.com/articles/2010/bob_seger_system_photo.php

― Jake, Thursday, 20 January 2011 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

*Hi guys

― Jake, Thursday, 20 January 2011 14:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

― omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally was able to snag Myonga's comp off slsk (God that took long). THIS IS AMAZING!!

― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 21 January 2011 11:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nothing off "Brand New Morning" though? Not even "Louise"?

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 23 January 2011 05:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would it be possible to get a link for this comp (or a copy of it--will trade, pay postage etc.). Thanks.

― Don Buddin, Monday, 24 January 2011 03:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's the link:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/v9h0zm

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 January 2011 04:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't switch from NFL channel postagame until I see Rodgers 1 on 1 lol

― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 24 January 2011 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is there a tracklist somewhere that lists the sources for these tracks? I'm pretty unfamiliar with these songs and I'd like to see what original albums/singles they were from. I dled the sendspace file, but only some of the track tags are filled out.

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2011 04:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Myonga.

Saw Seger live in '66! hahahahah Real Talk

― Don Buddin, Monday, 24 January 2011 05:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good lord. How was the show?

― Mark, Monday, 24 January 2011 05:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not really "a show." Bar in Columbus, ripped. With the Last Heard. East Side Story was the jam, pre-Heavy Music. Did three sets as they were a "bar band" at the time. Lots of great covers, Ramblin, Gamblin Man was just a gleam in his eye at the time.

― Don Buddin, Monday, 24 January 2011 05:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow!

xpost - Yeah, I was pretty lazy with the tags. Here's a fairly definitive breakdown:

"East Side Story", "Persecution Smith", "Heavy Music", "Chain Smokin'", "Sock It To Me Santa", "Vagrant Winter" - 1966-67 singles (Bob Seger & The Last Heard)

"Ballad of the Yellow Berets" - 1967 single credited to The Beach Bums

"Ramblin' Gamblin' Man", "Tales of Lucy Blue", "Down Home", "2+2=?" from Ramblin' Gamblin' Man LP (The Bob Seger System, 1969)

"Noah", "Innvervenus Eyes", "Lonely Man", "Death Row" from Noah LP (The Bob Seger System, 1969)

"Highway Child", "Mongrel", "Lucifer", "Leanin' On My Dream" from Mongrel LP (The Bob Seger System, 1970)

"Lookin' Back" - 1971 single

"Love The One You're With" from Smokin' O.P.'s LP, 1972

"Rosalie", "Back In '72", "I've Been Working" from Back In '72 LP, 1973

"Get Out of Denver", "Cross of Gold", "U.M.C." from Seven LP, 1974

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 January 2011 06:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "wow" I'm fkin OLD. hahahaha I followed him through most of his arena arc too, til about 77 or so. Even that schmaltz was good too at first.

Now I got nothing bad to say about the guy but I don't listen to much that came after the stuff you've posted here.

He plays piano on Kid Rock's new LP. The sound of dismay.

Ever heard The Bob Seger Liberation Army? Purty good.

Thanks again.

― Don Buddin, Monday, 24 January 2011 06:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Actually, it's The Seger Liberation Army.

http://ratb0y69.blogspot.com/2010/12/seger-liberation-army-down-home.html

― Don Buddin, Monday, 24 January 2011 06:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I remember tomorrow, I put all these in chron order with the correct band names and added Tyler's artwork from above, I will try and upload that too.

― Mark, Monday, 24 January 2011 06:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Myonga, I really appreciate that breakdown! I'm kind of anal when it comes to my tags and wanted to make sure I credited them to the correct artist. Again, really appreciate your work on all this. Growing up my mom was a huge Seger fan, but of course the Silver Bullets era mega-popular stuff, so I'm diving into this side of his work for the first time. Glad I gave it a go!

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh shit, i forgot i was going to scan this seger photo i've come into possession of. i'll do it i swear. cover art myonga has is nice, the pic will be a good supplement. not sure of the year, but it is early. and classic.

― tylerw, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Looks like Myonga's work is getting out into the wider world.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm guessing ghostcapitol is on here but I don't know who it may be.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

SHOW YOURSELF!
[that is a great blog btw]

― tylerw, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

GC got the link from me.

― Don Buddin, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah looks like the tagging is all set then, well done.

― Mark, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 04:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

For some reason, Never Mind The Bullets has risen to 93rd.

― Frank Kogan, Friday, 28 January 2011 05:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay just listened to this twice today and, holy fuck, what a revelation. Thank you so much for putting this together Myonga. I will definitely be keeping my eyes peeled for some of this stuff on vinyl. I know I've passed up a couple in the past, dismissing Seger as nothing I'd care for.

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 January 2011 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp Yep, Frank. From the Pazz & Jop thread, yesterday:

When I looked at the album list a couple days ago, the Bob Seger bootleg was up to #93! But then I noticed how that happened: Placements (on both lists, I think) had been altered to acknowledge ties, but instead of say, two albums tied for #32 followed by an album at #34 (which would be the proper way to do it), they're now followed by an album at #33. And so on, increasingly, down the chart..
― xhuxk, Wednesday, January 26, 2011 6:44 PM (2 days ago)

― xhuxk, Friday, 28 January 2011 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I just figured that out too (was looking at the singles list and was wondering why several hundred were tied for 40th place, and then noticed what you noticed) (wouldn't be surprised if the Voice has fewer people on its technical staff than several years ago).

― Frank Kogan, Friday, 28 January 2011 06:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have actually listened to Brand New Morning, which according to Wikip is a gem, and according to Seger (according to Wikip) is buried in his backyard, presumably so as to prevent it from ever seeing the light again. I think Seger's policy is correct and the gem person is wrong. "Louise" might have been passable if there'd been a band accompanying Seger and he'd worked on the vocals. But there are plenty of better tracks from other early albums that also didn't make it onto Never Mind The Bullets (my favorite of these being "Long Song Comin'" from Seven).

― Frank Kogan, Friday, 28 January 2011 06:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok finally scanned this thing

― tylerw, Friday, 28 January 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, "Old Time Rock N Roll" has a musically conservative message by definition, I guess, but "Looking Back" is expressly a song about how nostalgia's not a good thing.

What is wrong about looking back on the good things from the past? It's not like everything was better in the past, but some things were, and looking back on them is good, not least because the future can learn from it.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 28 January 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

that pic is amazing.

― sofatruck, Sunday, 30 January 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay what's the story behind that photo.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 January 2011 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really know! a friend knows a photographer who used to take concert pics in the 70s, and he just had a stack full of these things. for some reason (even tho he didn't know about myonga's comp) my friend sent me this one. don't know where/when it was taken. but i've spent a lot of time looking at this photo. i think it means ... something.

― tylerw, Sunday, 30 January 2011 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha look it's Boots Riley from The Coup in his time travel machine, jammin' with Bob.

― sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

also of note to this thread, I got a copy of Smokin' O.P.'s at the record show yesterday and during our afterparty put on "Heavy Music" as an invisible jukebox, the guests' closest guess was Ike Turner!

― sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone have any guesses on the date of that photo? judging from the foxy lady in the foreground, it's gotta be early 70s right?

― tylerw, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seems about right judging by the muttonchops on the guy in the back with the crazed look on his face.

― The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

unfortunately Smokin OPs has like two good songs on it - the first one and the last one

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I figured that out, but hey it was cheap

― sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

that photo is great. a seemingly mundane 'moment', but you can't stop wondering what happened before and after...and the look on Bob's face, it's like he's staring into the abyss. Love it.

― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

The chick knows what happenin'.

― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

add the chick to the list of people who aren't so sure about the songs on Smokin OPs.

― fact checking cuz, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't help it, I keep thinking about the recording scene from the horrible MST3K movie Pod People

― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it was just the wood-panelled studio that did it.

But it might explain Bob's expression.

― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

She's plugging her ears 'cause she doesn't want to hear the shit that's gonna go down when the studio owner notices that Bob is carrying a drink! Fuggin' downriver punk.

― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Judging by her pants, I am going to guess 1973. It is a great photo and weirdly compelling.

― Mark, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 04:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Smokin O.P's" blows. As does "Brand New Morning". and I say this as a massive Seger fan, but realistic enough to recognize when he faltered. And he faltered on those two LPs. Great call by Myonga to bypass 'Brand New Morning' completely on his comp

btw, I guess I just heard rumors that Bob is planning a 2011 concert tour? I totally assumed the previous one would be his last. That voice is real ragged. yet, something tells me I will drag my ass out there to a Chicago show...

― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh hell yes

― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

jeez.. wld love see the guy. also, pic above needs to be polled somehow

― bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

sounds like the actual dates will not be announced until next week ... also, lol, apparently his current drummer is Don Brewer from Grand Funk Railroad -- even better!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-bob-seger-tour-details-20110128

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/86564/bob-seger-tour-details-coming-up

― Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hope he comes out San Fran way!

― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Smoking OP's isn't very good but the Bo Diddley cover is plain great.
My boss just went crazy when I told him of Bob and Don Brewer playing together: he's like the biggest Seger/Grand Funk Italian fan ever.

― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

"also, lol, apparently his current drummer is Don Brewer from Grand Funk Railroad -- even better!"

Jesus, that's a killer pairing. Maybe he'll let Brewer do a drum solo on TUNC

― The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

He's had Brewer backing him for years. When I saw him in 2007, Brewer was the drummer.

Plus, new album? That could actually be good. There were a bunch of solid songs on Face the Promise.

― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

So perfect! Well done.

― Mark, Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow! would buy for 30 dollars american on vinyl!

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone know someone at numero group?

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

It is really good, Am, but I'd actually keep everything the same and put the 'Never Mind..' in a bright pink for better jarring effect. And then Myonga's 45/LP cover montage can be the full-cover inner sleeves

― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 5 February 2011 06:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah. Works perfectly this way. The red and yellow faded into the background looks vintage like an old LP cardboard cover.

― Gorge, Saturday, 5 February 2011 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

plus it matches the do not carry drinks sign.

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I concur. (I've already updated the artwork in my iTunes playlist to include it.)

The great mysteries of this photo continue to reveal themselves:

* What, exactly, is the deal with her hair -- a reverse dye job? Pulled back and piled on top?

* Does the tiny Canadian flag means this was from a show there?

* Who owns the thumb on the left hand side?

* Why is glasses man pulling a face?

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 February 2011 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I keep thinking that's Rob Tyner behind him.

― Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

ahahah, that is perfect, amateurist. i've got one other photo of what i believe is the same night. gimme a sec and i'll scan it.

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually now that i look at it, it might not be the same night. unless bob did a wardrobe change before his set.

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe a back cover photo?

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ooh, lots of black space for tracklisting. Also great because it looks like he's boxing his own noggin from side to side.

― dolphins cavorting in a cathedral (staggerlee), Saturday, 5 February 2011 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i did a crop that's closer up

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

back cover!

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

all we really need now is a cheap vinyl pressing plant THAT ASKS NO QUESTIONS.

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

seriously!!

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Switch sides. The live shot is a better front cover. The other shot is great but too unfocused for the cover.

― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

see for some reason i like the counterintuitive first shot being the cover but maybe i'm perverse.

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i like the first shot just cuz there's something HAPPENING there, you know? i don't know what's happening, but it is happening.

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

also the girl is cute

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

girls and babies and dogs. sell records. that's what william randolph hearst used to say.

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah the existing front cover is the way to go. I like the mystery there.

― Mark, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

gatefold shot

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yesssss. i guess this would have to be a double lp?

― tylerw, Saturday, 5 February 2011 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

any of you blog-dwellers ever hear the pep perrine album on hideout? doesn't sell for a ton. curious though.

― scott seward, Saturday, 5 February 2011 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Amazing shots all. I would drop some serious change on this.

― talrose, Saturday, 5 February 2011 22:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

tyler, we need HD scans of these photos -- like 600 dpi.

also here's my tracklisting for a double LP. feel free to make alternative suggestions.

SIDE A (23:32)
the ballad of the yellow beret
east side story
sock it to me santa
florida time
persecution smith
chain smokin'
heavy music (part 1)
heavy music (part 2)
2 + 2 = ? (single version)

SIDE B (24:41)
ramblin' gamblin' man
tales of lucy blue
down home
noah
lucifer
highway child
mongrel
leanin' on my dream
lookin' back

SIDE C (23:06)
teachin' blues
midnight rider
bo diddley/who do you love
love the one you're with
back in '72
rosalie

SIDE D (22:49)
turn the page (studio version)
i've been working'
need ya
get out of denver
u.m.c. (upper middle class)
long song comin'

― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

also yeah the studio shot HAS to be front the cover. the seger with the mic shot is the back cover with track listing on either side.

― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey fellas, while we're at it here's the inside sleeve art I made for my humble edit awhile back

― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 6 February 2011 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

(& I used the righteous mike pic from upthread for the front)

― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 6 February 2011 01:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK, so I objected that the studio shot lacked focus. Let's give it some focus:

― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 6 February 2011 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

the natural one is like, perfection tho

― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 6 February 2011 04:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree

love that we're all plotting out a hypothetical 2LP here

― sleeve, Sunday, 6 February 2011 07:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, it actually needs to happen. Lord knows that 2009-2010 were all about these amazing 2LP comps of amazing African, Asian music what have you. let's all band together as the ILX community and create this thing. we should setup a PayPal address from some anonymous shit, and if everyone through in like 10 bucks, they'd get a copy of the 2LP

We just need ppl w/ skills, both design and ninja wise, to make something relatively easy like this happen

wish I could contribute, other than the $$. I am big IT guy but never design

― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 6 February 2011 07:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

basically, we need to find a way to evade Bob's lawyers...

i bet it can be done!

― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 6 February 2011 07:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

cheap pressing plant that asks no question? eksmfg.com

― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 7 February 2011 03:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably is that we need high-quality vinyl rips (like FLAC quality) otherwise the vinyl will sound like the shit MP3s that are circulating.

― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 7 February 2011 03:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

and by "probably" i meant "problem"

also the text on my cover art isn't perfectly centered. somebody want to re-do this and fix that? hey, anybody want to hook me up w/ a copy of photoshop for mac????

― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 7 February 2011 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have these as a WAV quality CDR thanks to Myonga, so that's not an issue (xp)

― sleeve, Monday, 7 February 2011 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thread is deindexed.

― Pashmina, Monday, 7 February 2011 08:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

but were the WAVs made from MP3s??

― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 7 February 2011 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone out there have a collection of original Seger 7"s?

― by another name (amateurist), Monday, 7 February 2011 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think so but Myonga would know xp

― sleeve, Monday, 7 February 2011 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

pash modding like a champ and good citizen :)

― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha, not me, nope xxpost! CDs and CD-Rs only. I am but a link in the chain.

That album cover art is breathtaking indeed! I can't look at that picture of Hudson's without thinking "Stay alive with the MC5!"

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

but were the WAVs made from MP3s??

there are ways to tell if a WAV has mp3 in its lineage...

http://audiohub.org/get/fa/sa.htm

― a led zep of one (Edward III), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah - all the files were originally mp3 or wma. The WAVs were originally mp3s that I tried to de-noise a bit (and usually wound up leaving mostly untouched)

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've done it before </nerd>

― a led zep of one (Edward III), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp

― a led zep of one (Edward III), Monday, 7 February 2011 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw damn so much for that 2LP idea xxp

― sleeve, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i feel bad i missed on the action. dl'ing now (thx myonga for sharing)

only own ramblin' gamblin' man which i love, i feel like this is gonna be epic.

the "album art" studio shot is just amazing.

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 00:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

man east side story is getting things off with a bang!

btw what's the protocol for sharing this on the internet? or is it kinda an ilx only thing?

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i put it on my blog, been seeing it around elsewhere too.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool.

persecution smith is amazing! it's the best dylan ripoff this side of "a public execution" off the nuggets box

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

vagrant winter! goddamn!

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

tyler where is your blog, i sent myonga an email but i got a delivery status notification failure

― flopson, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

here you go
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/
seger thing is one post down

― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

― flopson, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

ahaha ... was hoping that seger pic would become an internet sensation. it begins here!

― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg that is awesome

― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

man he looks like james hetfield in that pic

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah totally

is ... is seger hetfield's real daddy?

― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

bob seger daddy issues would explain a lot of late period metallica lyrics

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol yeah. Bob Seger Daddy Issues might make a good band name, too.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Turn The Page" = grounds for disinheritance

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

ballad of the yellow berets is a real piece of shit, glad this was at the end

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

On my copy, which Myonga sent me the Christmas before last, "Sock It to Me Santa" and "Ballad of the Yellow Berets" are tracks 6 and 7. The track order is otherwise the same as the one sleeve posted upthread.

I don't want to screw with Myonga's original tracklisting too badly, and endorse it over all others, but the version I made for myself has "Ballad of the Yellow Berets" and "Noah" out, with "UMC" coming before "Cross of Gold," and the whole thing ending with "20 Years From Now," which I love and prefer as a closer to this comp. But since this is—and correct me if I'm wrong—a more or less strict listing of Seger's singles in chronological order, that doesn't make much sense. And Myonga is the originator of this whole thing, so I defer judgment to his tracklisting. I also would love to see "Need Ya" in there, but it might have to be excised due to running time.

― talrose, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Feel free to mess with the tracklisting! I did so myself after sending the first few copies out (moved "Yellow Berets" to the end, just for m@tt!), and again after uploading it for the second or third time. And the version I play at home is different as well - I excised "Get Out Of Denver", which I've never really been crazy about.

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i realize i sounded ungrateful by talking bad about yellow berets...that's the only song i don't like or love...overall this is fucking great, so thanks again sir :)

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Yellow Berets" fascinates me in a way...is this the first song to use the term "gay" as homosexual? First one I know of anyways...

― ilxor gets into jazz (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. I really like it just as a flip side to the protest songs of the time...historically, at least to me, its pretty intriguing

― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 01:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

if this were a CD comp it'd best be a hidden bonus track. you can't really do without it, but you don't want it front and center, you know what i mean? best to begin with 'east side story'.

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

incidentally "my" version of the CD comp is as follows

1. east side story
2. sock it to me santa
3. florida time
4. persecution smith
5. heavy music pt. 1
6. 2 + 2 = ?
7. ramblin' gamblin' man
8. ivory
9. noah
10. lucifer
11. highway child
12. teachin' blues
13. lookin' back
14. bo diddley/who do you love
15. midnight rider
16. so i wrote you a song
17. rosalie
18. turn the page
19. back in '72
20. 20 years from now
21. long song comin'
22. u.m.c. (upper middle class) -- i don't actually like this one much, but i didn't think i could fairly leave it out
23. get out of dener
[24. the ballad of the yellow beret]

btw that beautiful morning lp or whatever the acoustic one is called is HORRIBLE.

― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 03:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just got this and dug it. Thanks, Myonga!

― dr. phil, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I found lossless (flac) versions of all of Seger's early albums. It's amazing how they remain out of print. The versions sound really good -- I can't tell if they were ripped from vinyl or not. I like 'em in this order:

1970 Mongrel
1973 Back In '72
1974 Seven
1968 Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
1975 Beautiful Loser
1972 Smokin' O.P.'s
1969 Noah
1971 Brand New Morning

― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did you find them on a blog or via torrent? If on a blog, please share!

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh yeah, share please.

though brand new morning would suck in any format.

― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw i think beautiful loser and smokin OPs are still in print.

― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not blog nor torrent. I still use s...k.

― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

smokin' o.p.'s is p easy to find on vinyl...so is ramblni' gamblin, hardly ever see mongrel which i want now

― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEALED-Bob-Seger-System-Mongrel-LP-NICE-COPY-/220737471795?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3364fa8533#ht_587wt_1141

― just sayin, Thursday, 10 February 2011 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Mongrel, was excited to find a used copy of that, don't see it often.

― Mark, Thursday, 10 February 2011 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

early seger bootleg: http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/bob-seger-system-1970-a-110160.html

― tylerw, Monday, 7 March 2011 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

effin' awesome!!! ty tylerw

― KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seger says he's retiring, passing on the torch to the young'uns:

"I've been blessed. But it's time to go away and let the younger people take over, the Eminems and Kid Rocks of the world."

http://www.freep.com/article/20110323/ENT04/103240430/1318/SPORTS02/Will-Bob-Seger-retire-after-tour-He-contemplates-going-out-top?odyssey=mod|lateststories

― brio, Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I advise Bob to close his final show with a 45-minute long version of 2+2=??, followed by a scorching Ramblin Gamblin Man/Lucifer/Night Moves medley.

― brio, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

...in a caveman vest

― Trip Maker, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

wearing a necklace made of the shrunken skulls of berry gordy, ron asheton, rob tyner and sonic smith

― brio, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Actually, Kid Rock is already older than Al Kaline was when he retired (if the age in that article is right.) And Eminem turns 40 next year, so he's Kaline's retirement age now. I still love how, outside of Sinatra, Seger's reference points in that article are all Detroit guys.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just got this book in the Borders clearance:

It's pretty neat. Lots of pix & stories from the early days. Makes you wish there were a set of shiny reissues to go with it.

― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 May 2011 00:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

note to self: go to Borders

― VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 13 May 2011 01:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought this would have been revived to post this, v. nice piece on the early stuff the Never Mind the Bullets:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/bob-seeger-bootleg-compilation/Content?oid=3770583

― Mark, Friday, 13 May 2011 03:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome piece. does he post here? probably under some name like flopsy topsy or something. i'd never know who he was.

― scott seward, Friday, 13 May 2011 03:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

T@l's a terrific guy and a good writer. Another former Stylus alum.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 13:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

haaaa, that's awesome. tal had gotten in touch with me about the photo, and we were able to solve the mystery. hilarious that the pic is DURING bob's set! just takin' a break.

― tylerw, Friday, 13 May 2011 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

cranking this now. it really is great!

― tylerw, Friday, 13 May 2011 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Great article, thanks for linking it, Mark! (And, obviously for WRITING it, if you're there, Talrose!)

I saw that Seger appeared in the most recent Rolling Stone, and had mad unrealistic hopes that either Bob or the writer would have been aware of Bullets and made mention of it, but no dice. Too bad - I would've bought five copies for my mother!

― a "goaty"-style beard (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 15 May 2011 05:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

dudes can we still has this comp file i would like to hear

― 7+ minute (jdchurchill), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

so now i know where kid koala got the riff for the opening track, 100% on his recent rock-n-roll based cut-n-paste mixtape the slew album.

[spoiler : tis a lift from the main riff from down home]

this a f*cking great compilation

― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

still available?

― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can zip up what i got a while back, and repost if thats not breaking any rules ?

[nb : its over 100Mb so YSI aint good. other options ? ]

― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

this link still works...tags all cleaned up too: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/5450595340/never-mind-the-bullets-bob-seger-1966-1974-i

― tylerw, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was rocking Mongrel this weekend. People give me miles of shit when I say I like Seger. Fuckin tired of it.

― Trip Maker, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

meet different people

― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Met enough people tbh

― Trip Maker, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly if seger let someone like light in the attic release this comp (or something similar), dude would have instant cred with a lot of people who have written him off.

― tylerw, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks to Myonga for putting this together. I DL'ed it awhile back and love the hell out of it. Get outta Denver, baby!

― International Waters, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ surely someone here has connections with LITA to push this excellent suggestion through ?

[i agree, if they can sort out a reissue by a bloke who pressed up a handful of copies of his debut lp then got abducted by aliens, then they should be able to get this one on the shelf]

however, from this thread and other places, it seems that the block on such a thing happening is bob himself who is in denial as to the excellence of his earlier material.

― mark e, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok.
who here wrote the letter to mojo re bob getting some love from the magazine ?

― mark e, Thursday, 7 July 2011 09:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i tweeted at light in the attic about this today, got this response: "That's awesome! Pretty sure those vaults are locked up damn tight..." wheels (not) in motion!

― tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

however, from this thread and other places, it seems that the block on such a thing happening is bob himself who is in denial as to the excellence of his earlier material.

― mark e, Monday, May 16, 2011 9:49 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

i've also heard that he just has bad feelings from the many labels that ripped him off early in his career (no royalties and suchlike) and doesn't want to delve into the legal complications sorting out rights might entail. it may have nothing to do with his assessment of the early singles' quality. that said, this doesn't explain why mongrel and other such albums are out of print as well (even though he allowed CD reissues of these once upon a time).

― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

But what legal issues would there be now? The biggest issue is that all his early Hideout singles were snapped up by Cameo-Parkway, and are now owned by Abkco. They let a few of the songs out on the Cameo box, and even licensed "Sock It To Me, Santa!" out to Little Steven for an Underground Garage X-mas album. Seger's first albums were on Capitol, whom he would return to in 75 and remain. He and Punch Andrews formed Palladium Records in '72, which released his next three albums. They were distributed by Reprise. I have heard WEA has been a stumbling block, but OTOH Capitol has officially reissued the first Palladium set (Smokin OP'S) and material from the last one (Seven) popped up on that Early Seger album.

I wonder how the folks at Capitol feel about this. One of their major artists--whose catalogue has been quite lucrative over the years--is sitting on 6 albums of material barely exploited in the digital realm. Given the proper attention, a reissue campaign of this stuff is about as close as you can get to a license to print money in these waning days of the industry.

And that's not counting the unreleased stuff. There was a piece on Seger's tour recently in Rolling Stone, and he mentioned that he'd been digging in his vault, finding numerous qualitiy unissued or incomplete tracks that he planned to tinker with (ala Springsteen's The Promise or the Stones new Exile... songs) and put on his upcoming album.

― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wonder how the folks at Capitol feel about this. One of their major artists--whose catalogue has been quite lucrative over the years--is sitting on 6 albums of material barely exploited in the digital realm. Given the proper attention, a reissue campaign of this stuff is about as close as you can get to a license to print money in these waning days of the industry.

Capitols catalogue is currently owned by EMI isn't it ?
if so then there is a good chance that one of Cherry Reds reissue labels will have a chance to get those albums out as they seem to be scouring the Capitol/EMI archives for all sorts of decent stuff at the moment and releasing them via their multitude of sub-labels.
It seems that EMI have moved away from reissuing albums themselves, but give permission to others to do the hard work.
(isn't this the lucrative part of the current EMI business model ?)

― mark e, Friday, 8 July 2011 08:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm sure that if seger were so inclined he could get any legal roadblocks removed -- dude is pretty wealthy, i assume. so i don't know, maybe a groundswell of interest would lead him to think it wouldn't be a terrible idea. i mean, if mojo magazine suddenly calls out for their release he might pay attention?

― tylerw, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was thinking something more along the lines of the Beatles reissue series (which EMI--or I guess Apple--oversaw).

BTW, ICYDK Live Bullet & Nine Tonight are getting remastered, expanded & (in the case of the latter I assume) restored in August. Amazon's also hawking "Exclusive Remasters" of The Distance, Like A Rock & The Fire Inside.

― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I remember looking forward to Live Bullet and being disappointed when I finally had it in my mitts. Started good with "Nutbush" and then only above average rock with a couple more great moments and too much stuff like "Jody Girl" -- ick.

― Gorge, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

In some ways Live Bullet is most valuable as the only way you can get versions of the old stuff ("Lookin' Back" "Turn The Page") on legit cd. Seger comes off as super-charismatic on it.

― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 July 2011 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

If I had a back catalogue like the cd MVB sent out I would exploit the living hell out of it. That shit is incredible. "Like a Rock" and the risky business shit song suck. Yes I'm drunk.

― Bill Magill, Saturday, 9 July 2011 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

the risky business shit song suck

Ha! It's Friday late afternoon-evening in the USA. Excellent!

― Gorge, Saturday, 9 July 2011 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I kind of want to hear the rest of Live Bullet because of how eerie "Turn The Page" always sounded: not much crowd noise, that perfectly-placed feedback, the road-weariness of Seger's voice exponentially transcending any cliches, and probably the least-pretentious use of a mellotron in popular music.

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 July 2011 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to it in years, but I seem to recall how distant the crowd sounded on all of Live Bullet. It's funny because during one of the songs Bob's banterin' about how there are a couple of tape machines in the back of the hall and if you cheer loud enough you just might hear yourself on an album, but when you actually hear the cheers they come off like a bunch of detail-less white noise compared to how clean the actual music was recorded. Maybe it's mixed weird or something?

― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 July 2011 06:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think a lot of engineers/artists wrestled with how much to mike the crowd on live albums. Live At Leeds had a single mike pointed at the audience, while Kiss' Alive likely had many more than that, and the crowd noise on Rush's All The World's A Stage nearly overwhelms the music. Bob had a relatively large group at that time, and miking the crowd might have meant the difference between 8- and 16-track, the latter of which would have cost a lot more.

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 July 2011 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kiss Alive was goosed and rerecorded, wasn't it?

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 July 2011 06:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Eddie Kramer has said that the only live element on the record was the drums. But he's also said the only live element was Ace Frehley's guitar. Gene Simmons said some mistakes were fixed, but that the label didn't have the budget for them to substantially re-record large sections (which seems plausible, as Kiss hadn't sold much, and Casablanca was at death's door). Whatever was overdubbed, it seems the crowd noise was largely left alone (but still way huge in the mix).

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 July 2011 07:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

man, that comp really took off, didn't it?

"back in 72" (the song) really rocks. been in my head all week.

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

So, I'm curious, last year a fan-made compilation of your early stuff, "Never Mind the Bullets, Here's Early Bob Seger" made it all the way to 111 on the Pazz and Jop poll that Village Voice does.
Wow.

And that was something that wasn't even released commercially, you know, beating out records by Tom Petty and stuff...
I didn't know that.

I was curious if you had any plans or ideas about maybe reissuing some of that early stuff. This was real early stuff, and I was wondering if you had any plans to put that out commercially.
Well, if you're talking the pre-Capitol stuff, I have no control over it. You remember the name Alan Klein? He owns that, and it's difficult to get with Mr. Klein :laughter:, so it's completely out of my hands. On the other hand, I have a lot of spare songs that I've done down through the years that I do want to see the light of day, and all the way back to the early '70s, and even some '60s, and like, for instance, I think on the Live Record, we put out one that I did at Pontiac's Silverdome, which was about eight months after "Live Bullet," and it was an Albert King song called "Feel Like Breakin Up Somebody's Home." And we used to do a lot of R & B back then, and there's another Albert King song that I can't find, "Don't Burn Down the Bridge, You Just might Wanna Come Back," and I have so much old stuff, and I do want it to see the light of day, someday.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://blogs.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/arts-a-entertainment/pop-noise/30989-bob-seger-interview-still-the-same-part-i

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

note that he doesn't say anything about the early capitol albums. i get the feeling he just wants them to go away. oh well.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

*shakes fist* Alan Klein!

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

also that almost counts as Bob-props to Myonga, no? :D

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Allen Klein: dead, and still pissing artists off.

― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

can we dig him up just to shoot him in the face

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is kind of awesome, at least now he knows that we care.

― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wish he had said "Omg this changes everything. I was going to record a new album but now I'm
going to dedicate my life to releasing all of my old material."

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha, "Wow" indeed.

― tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

& Allen Klein, so villainous! unknown to me bit from wiki re: him and jodorowsky!

Witnessing the commercial success of hard-core pornographic films, such as Deep Throat and The Devil In Miss Jones, which broke through to the mainstream, Klein saw similar potential in Pauline Réage's bestseller The Story Of O, but Jodorowsky walked out on the deal.

― tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ray Davies had a great line about Klein: "I never signed a piece of paper with Klein, but I'm sure he can pull one out of a drawer."

― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha. it's funny, in that sam cooke bio from a few years back, klein comes across as this really passionate, devoted guy who has cooke's back at all times.

― tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

iirc, Christgau was pretty critical of Guralnick for essentially taking Klein's statements at face value. But Klein did get insane money for Cooke (and Bobby Darin) out of crooked record labels.

― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i imagine klein was the lesser of two evils for dudes like cooke and darin. maybe guralnick got taken for a ride by klein, i don't know, but it was interesting to hear klein's side of the story for once.

― tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

a facebook friend of mine who's a veteran of the late 60s/early 70s detroit scene recently posted an "east side story" utube and commented that seger hates his old stuff and has never wanted it released. i find this credible, not only considering the source but seger's comments upthread feel evasive.

― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

blaming allan klein is a convenient dodge. "the devil won't let me" not the first (or last time) a great musician fails to appreciate his own best work

― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wonder if Seger even knows that Abkco finally reissued some of those songs?

― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

a facebook friend of mine who's a veteran of the late 60s/early 70s detroit scene recently posted an "east side story" utube and commented that seger hates his old stuff and has never wanted it released. i find this credible, not only considering the source but seger's comments upthread feel evasive.

Except he still does "Heavy Music" in concert.

Also, if the Rolling fucking Stones can't even wrest control of their 60s catalog from Klein's cold, dead hands, I doubt Seger has much of a shot.

― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Except he still does "Heavy Music" in concert.

He didn't when I saw him in '07 - it was a straight Greatest Hits of the '70s and '80s show, with maybe three songs from Face the Promise thrown in.

― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think klein has the pre-capitol singles, probably not those early LPs though no?

i think seger is dodging the question.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

come on guys who needs bullshit like 'ramblin gamblin man' when we have 'like a rock'?

― omar little, Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

What not to do.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

rock and roll never forgives.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:54 (10 months ago) Permalink

― tylerw, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:30 (4 months ago) Permalink

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/79-year-old-coma-bob-seger/

― scott seward, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 12:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

That's awesome.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 12:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

Evie otm

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 15:49 (1 month ago) Permalink