Great Japanese Pop

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I've got into the likes of shonen knife, cornelius and the fantastic plastic machine lately, anyone know some other great Japanese pop bands?

naz, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

SMAP. (hah!)

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Corniche Cammomile!

Pop-off Tuesday!

jel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I always liked Mr. Children for the name value. I mean, that's a *lovely* group name.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

So is Mr Mister, Ned. ;-)

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nah. Too adult. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Incomplete list: Citrus, Crazy Curl, Buffalo Daughter, Yximalloo, Yukari Fresh, Takako Minekawa, Kahimi Karie, Hirono Nishiyama, Nobukazu Takemura, Nobuyasu Sakonda, Aki Tsuyuko, Asao Kikuchi... and of course the Boredoms.

Momus, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pop Off Tuesday.

Chris Lyons, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh shoot, someone already said them.

Chris Lyons, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Esrevnoc.

John Darnielle, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Chara, particularly the stuff she did on Junior Sweet and that duet she did with...umm...I forget her name. Yuki, perhaps?

Michael Daddino, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Spiders, The Carnabeats, The Tigers, and The Jaguars are all good examples of 60's Japanese garage rock (called GS or Group Sounds in Japan). The "GS I love you" compilations are great, but a little pricey.

The last 10 years has seen some decent if a little uneven garage action from Teengenerate, The 5-6-7-8's, Texaco Leatherman, Gasoline, Guitar Wolf, The King Bros. and The Zoobombs.

A friend of mine once gave me a tape by a really good indie rock japanese band, mid-nineties. They had a song called "White Volkswagen". Female vocals, mostly in english. I can't remember what they were called, but I think it began with an S. Ring any bells with anyone?

fritz, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sugar Plant, esp. "Happy/Trance Mellow" (or is it "Happy Trance/Mellow"?)

Curt, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No one's mentioned Tomoe Shinohara?

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

can i say that Ms Kahimi rules my small universe , etc. that and you have to listen to momus when he says such things cause he knows her

anthony, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Try Yukari Fresh as well

Jez, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

er why has no one mentioned Pizzicato Five? much better than the ever so overrated cornelius.

david, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Curt is spot-on about that Sugarplant record, one of my favorite things about the past several years. Although I can imagine it making more than a few ILMers want to puke.

If the first disc is "Happy" and the second disc is "Trance/Mellow," then the whole thing would be ... ummm ... curses, who knows.

Nitsuh, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Color Filter = good. Sugar Plant = good. Kahimi Karie = good. She and Momus played a show together in LA a couple of years back, great fun. Etc., etc.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'll second Takako Minekawa. And does Cibo Matto count? I never get tired of 'Sci-fi Wasabi'

Dave225, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I heard something at a party once & can't find it now. It was something like "Shugkounikina" .. any ideas?

Dave225, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There is a song called "Panda Riot" by a group called Our Hour on an old Darla comp. It's good!!

jel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shiina Ringo is sehr cute and plays guitar and has weird outfits and writes neato songs. And UA too--she is cool, gorgeously low voice. Avoid the mainstream Japanese stars, and avoid Puffy AmiYumi. They are cute but songs so bad!

Mickey Black Eyes, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yo Eugene, nice to see u here! What I've heard of Cornelius' new album "Point" is very good. Even better than "Fantasma". All I've heard of Takako Minekawa was "Fantastic cat" and it's rubbish.

Michael Bourke, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

there's a couple of Sadistic Mika Band songs that are quite good, even if the covers of their records were the best thing about them.

philT, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Takako Minekawa!!! Not rubbish at all. Though I believe she recently married Cornelius and had a baby, so may not release anything new for a while. The stuff Ned already mentioned. Also Chocolat, Hideki Kaji, Pizzicato 5 (obviously), 800 Cherries, other stuff on Trattoria like Bridge, and the magazine Beikoku Ongaku, which features more indiepop style stuff (Japanese and otherwise).

g, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shiina Ringo is my role model.

Honda, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I must say, though, that while J-pop is great, Thai pop is better. A friend puts the difference between Japanese pop and most other Asian pop musics (save China, which is a whole different deal) thus: "Japanese pop songs are like dissertations about themselves." Which is true and is part of what makes them great, but the Thai stuff -- Zaza, Bubble Girls, Tata Young, Nicole Theriault, the almost unbelievable Triple Shake -- has a sort of unforced abandon to it. Or as unforced an abandon as can be simulated by ProTools.

John Darnielle, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Morning Musume!

A Nairn, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just got Mr. Children's Deep Sea (i think), it's fukai ume. It has that extremely catchy hit "mashingan wo futsu hanase" (i think). I would compare them to the goo goo dolls, and they've got some cool Cornelius style TV channel switching on the album. Overall not bad, but it's what you would expect from japanese top forty.

A Nairn, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

that's all nice, but WHERE can I find all that stuff... any www download options maby...?

richelleux, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Puffy are periodically capable of greatness. The first six or so singles (approximately from "Asia no Jun Shin" to "Ta Ra Ra Ran") have a unique blend of Japanese charm and trad western swirling pop structure. And Konishi's remix of "Kore Ga.." is genius.

Also Mansfield's mini-album - can't recall the name - the one with his astonishing version of "The New Pollution" with Yukari Fresh.

Don't know much current 2002 J-pop, but Morning Musume are amusingly inept and occasionally hit the POP! button, while Speed's "White Love" has to be my all-time favourite quasi-sophisticated teenage pop guff.

Any more advice would be cool as I'm going to be DJ at a "cool J-pop" night in London soon.

Darren, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thx!

naz, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

most anything on trattoria records is quality. salon music, seagull screaming kiss her kiss her, dots + borders, yoshie, kahimi, hideki kaji, citrus, indian rope, takako minekawa...

escalator is also a great label for that type of stuff... yukari fresh, losfeld, neil + iraiza, american rock, cubismo grafico, miniflex (miniflex is GREAT)...

buffalo daughter is of cuorse great, they have a new one coming out in about 2 weeks called "i"... check that out most definately.

also investigate maher shalal hash baz and nagisa ni te, who have recently had retrospectives released on Stephen Pastel's Geographic Records in the UK. much different stuff, more of a belle and sebastian/syd barrett/neil young circa "on the beach" feel to it... good savant psych pop. they have become 2 of my favorite bands as of recent.

and, i back nick (momus) wholeheartedly when i say

BOREDOMSBOREDOMBOREDOBOREDBOREBORBOB

also check out OOIOO, yoshimi from boredoms' other semi-main band... feather float has been issued in the US on birdman and i pretty easy to get, and their last LP gold & green is also essential... and if you like that there's a remix LP of those 2 albums out on shock city/trattoria...

for some classic j-pop try the plastics, 80's new wave japanese devo shit... or pink lady, 70's japanese bizarro abba type shit...

i know i am missing stuff but there is a lot of great shit...

dig in and enjoy!!

mike j, Saturday, 19 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

related to this, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Lailove (Laila France) ep "L'Amour Sese Fomridable" (or something) that was released on L'appareil Photo?

thanks

g, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
ok I am certainly liking shiina ringo

a websearch turned up some joker hosting her new album online, I'd mention Shuukyo and Stem, who can tell me more?

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Music in Japan costs too damn much!

IAMNOTMOMUS, Friday, 4 June 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link

good god, I just read the translation of the album title -- "Chlorine, Semen, Chestnut Flower"

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus-Tech Squeeze Box, PATE (formed from the remnants of Bridge) and Fab Cushion to thread - actually, the whole of Vroom Records kick butt.

Trattoria has become 1ct Records if I remember correctly.

Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

On a more guitar-glam tip, Plastic Tree.

Anybody remember when Pink Lady had a weekly variety show on U.S. teevee? I think it was a summer replacement thing, mid-70s. That shit was wierd.

briania (briania), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah milton just get all her stuff. probably in this order: 2nd album, 3rd, 1st, cover song double album, and live triple mini-album.

and then... 2004 Pop albums from Japan I like to varying degrees:
Sweets - Sweets
Ex-Girl - Endangered Species
Tommy February6 - Tommy Airline
Olivia - Lost Lolli
W - Duo Uandu
Yukari Rotten - Not Dead

scissors (Honda), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

the cover song album seems scary. she sounds very different & constrained singing in english (I found samples here). it's certainly mainstream but I like some of the singles very much.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Anybody remember when Pink Lady had a weekly variety show on U.S. teevee? I think it was a summer replacement thing, mid-70s. That shit was
wierd.

Late seventies.

In celebration

It's on DVD

I saw the damn thing when it first aired!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i love japanese chixxx :(

HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, crap, how could I have forgotten Pink Lady's sidekick "Jeff"? In a just world, he should have been able to parlay this connection into huge stardom in Japan.

briania (briania), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I was wondering if that would come out on DVD, and had assumed it never would!

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 4 June 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

that Shiina Ringo album (which I also just got and promptly ordered all of her other albums) is INCREDIBLE

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

which shiina ringo album?

Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana?

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

yes!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

most of the lyrics are pop beyond shame but I like shuukyo.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

and morphine.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Cibo Matto and Butter 08. Also, Deerhoof's vocalist is a Japanese female.

Adrienne Nero, Saturday, 5 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i love japanese chixxx

Yeah... but who doesn't?

Ever try staying a week in Tokyo or Yokohama without having your head explode from all the hot chicks walking around like the end of the world is not near? Damn near impossible!

lucas (lucas), Sunday, 6 June 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Ever try staying a week in Tokyo or Yokohama without having your head explode from all the hot chicks walking around like the end of the world is not near? Damn near impossible!

The same's true for Nagoya, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima, Fukuoka - the whole place is ridiculous.

Also

SUPERCAR

are the best band in Japan.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 7 June 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Deerhoof's vocalist is a Japanese female.

uh... japanese-american. they're from san francisco, california, usa.

not really "pop" either...

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Came across a new J-pop site in English. It's got some pretty good information about bands that maybe a lot of people haven't heard of yet.

nippop

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 21 February 2005 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link

http://nippop.com/

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 21 February 2005 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
What's up in 2006 pleaszze.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000BVXFQ4.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.keikaku.net/reviews/102

it should be noted that I really don't like about 99% of j-pop though, it gives me the rabies. but I've been listening to Adult 2-5 times a week since it came out in January.

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 2 April 2006 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I got a really good album by Maaya Sakamoto in the mail the other day; it's on Geneon (which mostly releases anime soundtracks) in the U.S. All the music is composed and produced by Yoko Kanno, who composed the music for Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus and my personal favorite, Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I recently heard a song by Yuki for the first time, "I U Mee Him" I think it's called, and thought it was bee-u-teefull. Anybody know more about her music and what to seek out?

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

As usual, I agree with Milton.

And thanks for the link to that site! I hadn't seen it before...not bad.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 2 April 2006 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm liking Adult.

I'm looking for something that's really poppy and dancey though. I want like a japanese girls aloud.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 2 April 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't we all! I know next to nothing about japanese girl groups, though, there seems to be this really strong gender divide, all the english-language j-pop blogs seem to be guys going on about hello!project/morning musume/girl idols and the j-pop livejournals are girls chatting Johnny's Entertainment/wFl/general boybandism. Which as far as I can tell is surprisingly enough a reflection of how it is in japan, boybands for teenage girls as standard but girl-groups not, aimed instead at yer sliiiightly older males. But then female solo artists of the singer-songwriter type and female-fronted guitar/etc type groups are often for the girls as well, in Japan even if not in western j-pop fandom (stuff like AI, Every Little Thing, Mika Nakashima, all that).

I'm not really feeling j-pop 2006 yet, it doesn't feel like anything very exciting has happened, musically at least (the current number one selling like 750,000 copies in its first week is more uhm culturally interesting?). Otsuka Ai has a new single out, which is supercute (music video on youtube here), but LOVE COOK was a bit of a disappointment, so I'm not expecting too much. Morning Musume's last single was good, if a bit typical.

The j-pop i'm listening to most at the moment is straightforward pop-rock and eighties chartpop, though, not post-shibuyakei stuff. Also m-flo, who are a.ma.zing, but more r'n'b/hiphop than j-pop. 2004's 'astromantic' is the album to go for with them.

permanent revolution (cis), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Here are some new Japanese pop albums that I expect to be pretty great, based on the song samples.

Yukihiro Takahashi - Blue Moon Blue

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TOCT-25939

If you listen to the samples, you'll see it's in a similar vein as the Takahashi/Hosono Sketch Show collaborations, though bordering slightly more on the pop than electronic side.

Tomita Lab - Shiplaunching

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AICL-1731

Jazzy pop with lots of guest vocalists (including Takahashi on one track).

Buffalo Daughter - Euphorica

Can't find samples for this...but they're one of the more well-known j-pop bands I suppose.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like the Yo Hitoto song "Hito-Shian", but I've never been able to find it outside my rip from the ending of a movie.

jackl (jackl), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Fancy Dick

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Domofuki Murata

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Massage Emancipator

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Crispity Nuggets

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Been listening excessively to a rather sweet post-Shibuya-kei record from last year: Refely's 9-Cliches. It's like a three way between Cornelius/Flipper's Guitar, Max Tundra and Shiina Ringo.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the elepop band The Aprils have three fantastic crossbreed indie-electroclash-Game Boy-good time pop albums, all released over the past 3 years.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, and on a Yuki tip, her 2005 album "Joy" is v v good.

permanent revolution (cis), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The Happy End from the seventies and Flipper's Guitar. Venus Peter. Are Jumprope an originally japanese band? Japancakes.

antonio, Monday, 3 April 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the Yuki tip. I was wondering if anybody noticed.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone mention Tujiko Noriko? I love her much.

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i would have replied quicker about Yuki but I started listening to the album and forgot about posting! (actually I often - shamefully? - get Yuki confused with Chara, that same slightly countrified, gentle acoustic pop with the high girl voice breathy rather than squeaky, so I had to check before i recced.)

The great thing about 'joy' is that I expect the usual gentle sweetness, but the first song is so startlingly synthpop (crypto-rave, even!) --
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=153YM54R40SLM0PQ01UOPX10PR

permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

check out Denki Groove who at their pinnacle (that's "A" and "Orange") are a combination of boredomsy shouting, slick high speed rapping, rephlexesque techno geekery with nods & winks to devo, supercamp electro pop disco house etc, daft sing songy songs, football chants, vangelis, and the list goes on.
unfortunately they were kind of off the boil before and after these two albums.

bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

They don't have any new stuff out because they broke up a year ago, but please check out Supercar. They put so many of the artists mentioned on this thread to shame.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't say I've grounds to agree with that so far.

BARMS, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Xinlisupreme

S- (sgh), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 03:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, permanent revolution! Thanks for the ysi!
I've never heard of Chara, but then again I really haven't heard of most of the music on this thread, I'd really like to though, I'm just barely discovering this stuff.
Has anybody heard the album "Prismic", by Yuki?? I've heard good stuff about it so far.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there some place I can buy some of this stuff on CD for non-ridiculous prices? (Even a bargain download site might be good.)

Also compilations would be a good idea, as brought up on another thread.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Another yes to comps. I've got a chunk of Pizzicato Five, which I guess I like but never really want to listen to, but I'm sure there must be more out there. Is there one of those ILM "Rough Guide" lists out there somewhere?

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Saturday, 8 April 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.yesasia.com/ seems to be what most people use, I've no idea how good it is though. amazon.jp ship internationally as well.

"non-ridiculous prices" - Japanese albums tend to cost ¥3000 or so, which is, what, $25 US? The price is usually pretty fixed, it's written on the cd packaging even. Alas ebookoff - second-hand and hence not cripplingly expensive - don't seem to deliver outside japan. Sometimes yesasia will stock an 'international version' (ie a general non-japan asian version i think?) which is drastically cheaper though.

permanent revolution (cis), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh. This thread reminds me that I lost all of my j-pop in the Great MP3 Player Crash of '05, and it makes me very sad.

I will second (third? fourth?) the Yuki recommendations in this thread wholeheartedly. Except I'll add that her solo albums (and, to some extent, her work with Judy & Mary) don't really have many of the tropes that one might associate with prototypical j-pop. Musically, I think they probably sound much less foreign to Western ears, but they're very solid and well worth checking out.

Here's the video for Yuki's "End Of Shite" (from Prismic, which is indeed great):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrC7zxjGCGc&search=Pv

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably should mention that said video is maybe just slightly NSFW (for brief simulated masturbation, upskirt exploration of cartoon gnomes).

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody have the new Kurahashi Yoeko album 'Tadaima'? There's a review of it on the keikaku site Milton linked to. I haven't heard it yet, but I have 'Tokyo Piano', which I think is really cool. It's got more of an old-school '70s/80s J-pop vibe. However, her vocals are always really off key and hard to take. I mean I think she must do it on purpose...they'll definitely turn off a lot of listeners. I'm hoping they're slightly more restrained on 'Tadaima'.

I'm going to order 'Tadaima' and the Yukihiro Takahashi album 'Blue Moon Blue' from cdjapan.co.jp

Never used yesasia...but cdjapan is at least reliable.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

So what would be worth checking out by Judy and Mary??

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 9 April 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

http://www.waxpoetics.com/music/mixtape/citypop-japanese-aor-mixtape

Japanese DJ Bawxxx recently hipped us to his mix of citypop (Japanese AOR), lovingly called Melancholy of Suburbia, and we’re feeling this! Good luck ever finding these records! We don’t know much about Mr. Bawxxx, but with a little snooping we found out that he apparently hails from Nagoya and eats quite well!

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

i've been listening to tons of japanese electronic pop of the 1980s, esp. 1980-84, lately. there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental" in japan. that goes for music as much as, say, film. people like hosono and others move freely--even on a single album--between modes. i like that aspect a lot. not that western pop music doesn't have its experimental elements.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

that said, the "city pop" of the kind on that mix is not very experimental, but it can be very enjoyable. i don't have my laptop to hand to check out the names of the bands/albums in that mode that i've been enjoying, but i can check later. if anyone cares.

the album i've been addicted to in particular is a one-off studio group called "aragon" (that's what the album is called, too). it's a kind of electronic MOR/jazz fusion/4th world/ambient thing. which could sound terrible. amazingly my fave track is on youtube, i'm curious what others think. i think it's lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAqNzycK7rY

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah, I love the closer on that aragon album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSBH2EGcNHo

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

oh man, somebody else who knows this record! it seems hopelessly obscure. good luck finding an actual copy in the states.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

don't have a physical copy myself, but yeah, it's a good one!

if you haven't heard it, I'd recommend the ichiko hashimoto's beauty if you dig that aragon lp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELvVDDXEG0

similar understated experimental '4th world' pop vibe on a couple tracks (it's pretty eclectic tho, others are nothing like that one)

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

these 80s japanese LPs are some of things i don't feel bad about downloading, since in many cases i'd never find a copy. in some cases there have been reissues but given typical japanese prices and exchange rates they'd be like $50+

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

also it'd be hard for me to even look them up since i don't read kanji :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

haha yeah :-/

going back to this - there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental"

def also really like that about hosono & lots of his contemporaries from that era. his work in the 80s kinda straddles the line between the two but even his ambient music has this abstracted catchiness to it. maybe bc a lot of this crew also did work for movies, anime, video games, commercials, etc.?

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

*bookmarked*

the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

ooh that hashimoto track is nice

here's one from colored music LP from 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHL2e9VkiyU

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

here's some hosono-produced weirdness from 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTiY4RbIaZc

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

that's not a takahashi track? it's on one of his solo lps, so just assumed it was

super hilarious hosono cmaeos in this sandii vid btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxSV8Xu0RUk

original bgm, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link

i think takahashi did it first, def his roxy music track -- so good.

the all man brothers (clouds), Thursday, 30 October 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

re: finding aragon in the US...probably like 4 or 5 years ago i found a copy in the collection of a weird reclusive ex-EBM DJ from florida that used to be a buyer at princeton record exchange back in the day. still had the store-made hype sticker from (i'm assuming) the 80s, which immediately had me pretty stoked:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/spencerd63/IMG_6603_zps37d828c7.jpg

not sure how to post pictures here, hopefully that worked. but yeah, remarkable album. there's a really weird "making-of" type LP called "the studio works" that was issued the same year made up of studio demos and outtakes, worth seeking out if you're a fan. nishimatsu kazuhiro (the vocalist) has a solo album form the same time too, though it's titled a little too far into schmaltz territory for my taste.

Spencer D (reassemblage), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

you're the same spencer d that did the "fairlights mallets and bamboo" mixes, yeah?

clouds, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

yup.

and oops, i meant tilted, not titled.

Spencer D (reassemblage), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link

sweet, love those mixes and play them often

clouds, Thursday, 30 October 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah those mixes are the best, i bow to you spencer.

btw the aragon vocals are sometimes "in japanese" per the sticker but i think a lot of them are just wordless oohs and aaahs etc.

there's a really weird "making-of" type LP called "the studio works" that was issued the same year made up of studio demos and outtakes, worth seeking out if you're a fan.

ha, i'm not likely to find this anywhere. YSI?

the album i've been listening to the last few days is satoshi ashikawa's "wave notation 2: still way" which is pretty purely ambient, and yet like some of hosono's ambient work (or eno's for that matter) there's a subliminal catchiness to it. i believe you can download the whole thing on root blog, just google around and you'll find it.

what else? there's the mallet-heavy yet (yet?) awesome mkawju ensemble LP from 1981, most of it written/produced by future film-score god joe hsaishi. can't seem to find a clip on youtube.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

<3 still way so much. is it really the only thing ashikawa did? was never able to find any info about other recordings.

original bgm, Friday, 31 October 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

can we talk abt how great miharu koshi's "boy soprano" is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8EPTE41c5Q

clouds, Friday, 31 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

Lost that one in a crash. Only have one song now from it. Rice Music from Ippu Do also.

Digging the second volume of Fairlights, Mallets and Bamboo.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

"sur la terra" - super beautiful hosono production

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKUcR2Z9DYY

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 06:20 (nine years ago) link

starts ~4mins in

original bgm, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 06:23 (nine years ago) link

New music from Furukawa Miki:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KS1qzueR90

Tokyo Crow, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

I pretty much consider this the perfect pop song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tdMHZRiGd8

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

this city pop mix is p tight overall but mariya takeuchi "plastic love" at 31:20 is a monster:
https://soundcloud.com/bawxxx/melancholy-of-suburbia#t=31:20

original bgm, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14RxICxtM5Q

So good. Been listening to Miharu Koshi all across youtube. Lots of cool stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

And yes it does have a Led Zeppelin reference in the lyrics.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsPXl-OxW28

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZSpj5R5L4

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2wW--l1OHk

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link

electro prom in the foggy forest

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSYWR6jKjpA

The intro to this is straight out of a Final Fantasy boss.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 04:58 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u393a9VJo2Y

Mariah Carey cover

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 05:10 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTOfH3Sjb9U

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 05:10 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73e-gV50SKk

The piano necktie on a miniature red piano is amazing. So 80s.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 05:18 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

RIP

Yumi Ito
1941 - 2016

Death of Yumi Ito of twin pop duo The Peanuts confirmed

meisenfek, Monday, 11 July 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX0rrArs46A

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 05:56 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7GAvKBIO4

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 06:04 (seven years ago) link

man I could tell in the first 5 seconds that was Hosono

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Arg36CZvHA

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

Not 80s but Nihonjin:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4mrih3yZgEBes83YSy3WXM

calstars, Saturday, 22 April 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KKCt_Ur2ik

i've been listening to Salon Music's "My Girl Friday" (1983). i absolutely love the opener song "Muscle Daughter". kind of reminds me of The Vaselines.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

was surprised when they apparently got robert fripp in to do the guitar solo

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

yeah that solo rules

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

also that must be an early mix (i think for a vinyl release) on the album, she sings first. can't get enough of this song lol. every time i hear it sounds more and more like an alien version of Roxy Music.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLi5M7iQhE

i downloaded this from youtube a few years ago, it's not online anymore so i re-uploaded it. wish i had the full thing but it's not easy to find this stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 May 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

the video for "muscle daughter" by salon music has been taken down and i can't find much of their music available legally or illegally in the u.s. if anyone has any leads on how i can get that song specifically or their albums in general, i would appreciate the info. i asked my one friend who has lived in japan for years and is into indie/punk/shoegaze music and she had never even heard of them.

na (NA), Saturday, 17 June 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

i ended up buying two Salon Music LPs off ebay, "My Girl Friday" (which opens w "Muscle Daughter") and "La Paloma Show". both really cool records. "Muscle Daughter" feels like the intersection of Roxy Music and Beat Happening. they have a kind of amateur DIY sound at times but clearly have a lot of good influences (they cover "See Emily Play" and a lot of songs seem to ape Brian Eno's pop albums (Frippertronic guitars throughout)). "Din of Love" is cool, it has a Bollywood style to it. "Hunting on Paris" was a guitar-and-organ indie hit single and is a really cool New Wave pop song. they did a remake of it for a wonderful Trattoria compilation called "Bend It! Japan '98". the "La Paloma Show" album has a more synth pop feel to it, "Voyager of the Beagle" is a trippy early stab at exotica revival, "Paradise Lost" is pretty cool cold war synthpop ("Too much doubt/in America/Too little trust/in Russia"). overall i really love these two albums and recommend picking them up on vinyl. they can be had for under $25 w shipping.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 June 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

XP - sent you a mail NA

MaresNest, Saturday, 17 June 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

What? Give the drummer some

calstars, Saturday, 17 June 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

https://we.tl/IMAu8QFWSU

MaresNest, Sunday, 18 June 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

thanks dudes

na (NA), Sunday, 18 June 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

ty listening to "Chew It In A Bite" right now "Paper Doll" this is some solid 90s alternative rock right here w Japanese punk flavor. love it.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link

"Paper Dog" rather

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLZ8ddRbQ5o

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link

Salon Music good at shoegaze

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link

Nice one

calstars, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhetXL7KmZA

this is some really sick 80s dance pop. that snare is pure cocaine.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

yes! all late 80s toshiki is fucking awesome ("sea is a lady" is my favorite)

clouds, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

oh this one, yeah, i have this comp called "made in the eighties" that has this and some other great stuff, dee-dee-phone by the ab's, dress down by kaoru akimoto, free way 5 to south by fujimal yoshino...

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVYqqrw6eQU

been listening to this cos of the amazing album cover. also the Hosono production!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZac0bNJqw

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brec06BA6JU

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5BlCZsiCQ
nonstop doopees for me the past 3 weeks. I've become a treble head for Caroline's vocals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlhukAkkSN8

Woon... Doopee Time (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

untootooku gets posted in these threads like once a year (not complaining, it's amazing)

clouds, Thursday, 12 October 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQjdwRno5g

cheeseburger, Thursday, 12 October 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

why is none of this music on spotify?

niels, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:12 (six years ago) link

spotify hasn't been in japan very long and is missing many label deals there. digital music also just never quite caught on in japan in the way it did elsewhere etc

ufo, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:26 (six years ago) link

ah yeah, I seem to recall Tower records thriving in Japan...

niels, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

This guy runs a little engine with 30 something hours of City Pop and leaves it streaming on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOIZMzsiZw

MaresNest, Sunday, 10 December 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Poison Girl Friend - Fact 2 (from Melting Moment)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZ7O7GWuN0

omar little, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

oh word, i listened to that EP for the first time last week and have had the same track in heavy rotation since. love it.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:34 (one year ago) link

original love, tomoyo harada, olivia, clammbon

CerebralCaustic, Friday, 20 January 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link


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