Pearl Jam - No Code

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I don't currently have a copy of Ball-Hog but thanks to this thread I am totally going to listen to NO CODE today

-- Al (hoteloper...), March 13th, 2005.


I just found my sister's old copy of No Code in a bag in my room today, coincidentally. I've never listened to it before but probably know a bunch of songs from the alt-rock station. I know they played a ton. I'd put it on if I wasn't at work.

-- miccio (anthonyisrigh...), March 13th, 2005.


dude I don't wanna hijack the thread, don't get me started on No Code!!!

-- Al (hoteloper...), March 13th, 2005.


Al, get started! No Code as good thing, or No Code as bad thing?

-- David R. (quoteidio...), March 13th, 2005.


Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

good thing!!!!!

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm listening to "In My Tree" right now, it's my favorite song.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

main reason it's my favorite Pearl Jam album: Jack Irons (he's on Yield too, but didn't get away with as much polyrhythmic wankery on that one).

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

also: the mid-album block of their most blatant Neil Young homages to date: "Smile"/"Off He Goes"/"Red Mosquito" ("Habit" is also in the middle of that but doesn't really fit in with the NY thing)

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "Smile" used to be my least favorite song because it sounded really kind of mean and sarcastic at the beginning when he says "don't it make you smile" but now I'm pretty sure it's a sincere/happy song and I like it better.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind" is the reason I once almost considered buying the Stone Gossard solo album.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

"Present Tense" was at one point my favorite song because I'm a sucker for songs that start off slow and drumless and then end with a big rave-up, but it doesn't hit me as hard anymore. also it wasn't nearly as good when I saw them play it live w/ Matt Cameron (who's a great drummer yeah but doesn't really have any reverence for playing the old songs as they're played on the records by the other drummers, especially the Jack Irons stuff).

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

do they still sell the cardboard version of the album packaging with the little sleeves that have a bunch of fake Polaroid-cards with the lyrics for each song in them? each copy came with 9 random cards (of the total 13 songs/cards).

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

token incredibly embarrassing cringe-inducing Vedder moment of this album: "I'm Open". spoken word over Eno soundscapes!

A man lies in his bed in a room with no door
He waits hoping for a presence something anything to enter
After spending half his life searching he still felt as blank
As the ceiling at which he stared
He is alive but feels absolutely nothing
So is he?
When he was six he believed that the moon overhead followed him
By nine he had deciphered the illusion trading magic for fact
No tradebacks...
So this is what it's like to be an adult
If he only knew now what he knew then...
I'm open... (2x)
Come on in... (4x)
I'm open... (2x)
Come on in... (4x)
I'm open...
Lying sideways atop crumpled sheets and no covers he decides to
dream...
Dream up a new self for himself...

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

token incredibly embarrassing cringe-inducing Vedder moment of this album

"token" and "moment"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

alternate candidate for best song: "Lukin", which is short and heavy and angry-sounding and is about Vedder hanging out at Matt Lukin's place hiding from a stalker.

Drive down the street can't find the keys to my own fucking home
I take a walk so I can curse my ass for being dumb
I make a right after the arches. . . stinking grease and bone
Stop at the supermarket. . . people stare like I'm a dog

I'm gone to Lukin's... I gotta spot at Lukin's
Unlock the door at Lukin's. . . open the fridge
Now I know life's worth

I find the key but I return to find an open door
Some fucking freak who claims I fathered by raping my son
I find my wife. I call the cops. This day's work's never done.
The last I heard the freak was purchasing a fucking gun.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"open the fridge, now I know life's worth" is to me one of the greatest lyrics of all time

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Eisbar, I know!! this is Vedder we're talking about! but even if you like his schtick (which I do) there's always that one moment on every PJ album where it's unbearable

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Miccio : Durst :: Me :: Vedder

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

someone get me a book deal, I think I can write one of those 33 1/3 things about this album.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

oh and for the record, "Lukin" = 62 seconds long

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this album for the same reason I like the last Blink 182 album; overambitious showboat drummer gets let loose to wank all over what might have been much less interesting (to me) otherwise.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Well now I DEFINITELY have to play this tomorrow.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

and I can definitely see the Durst/Vedder logic. Both reached their apex on their band's third album ("Bugs" = Ben Stiller)

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

haha ok come back to the thread and share your reactions! the album's almost over so I'm running out of things to say. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

ok now I have to take the Durst/Vedder parallel to its extreme and turn this into a PICTURE THREAD

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/p/Pearl_Jam/sq-vedder-free-concert-92-mtv.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

http://silencio.weblog.com.pt/images/EddieVedder_blue.gif

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/398944.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Vedder entry in Wikipedia

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

WEIRD AL YANKOVIC LYRICS
"My Baby's In Love With Eddie Vedder"

Oh, my baby, my baby she don't want me no more
Ever since she saw his poster in that record store
She says the way he grinds his molars is really sexy
She thinks he's so darn dysfunctional and "Generation X"y
She likes his brooding angst and his wild-eyed stare
Yeah, he's her very favorite slacker multi-millionaire

Well, my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
She's all crazy 'bout that Eddie Vedder
Once she was mine, but now I better just forget her
'Cause my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder

Now, every time I see him, well, he looks so grim
I guess it really must suck to be a rock star like him
What a pain in the butt to have so much success
Spending all his time moping and avoiding the press
But my girl can't get enough of his sullen demeanor
Like he's some big tortured genious and I'm some kinda wiener

Well, my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
She's got a thing for that Eddie Vedder
Tell me, what can he do that I can't do better
Now my baby's in love with
I said I said I said my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
Head over heels for that Eddie Vedder
I cant believe it, now she's knitting him a sweater
'Cause my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder

I knew we were headin' for disaster
When she caught me hangin' out at the Ticketmaster
Now she's got an unrequited adoratioon
For the frustrated, agitated, designated alienated
Spokesman for the disaffected grunge generation

Well, I don't wear Doc MArtens and I don't wear flannel
And I don't boycott the music video channel
And I just can't compete with all that money and fame
But I know two can play at this game
Yeah, well, let's just see how jealous she'll get
When I start stalking Alanis Morissette

Well, my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
She's all crazy 'bout that Eddie Vedder
Once she was mine but now I better just forget her
'Cause my baby's in love with
I said I said I said my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
Why'd she have to fall for that Eddie Vedder
If she wants to leave me, I guess I better let her
'Cause my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved this album as a twelve year old. I don't listen to it much anymore (last time was probably a few years ago), but I doubt I'll ever sell it.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.quizilla.com/T/Teabeard/1046458216_dsensitive.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.98rock.com/timages/page/eddie_vedder_GI.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

2xpost, dear god bring in the white lions.

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

actually a rutger hauer joke would have been better there.

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I was just spending the last 15 minutes cataloguing maps and thinking about all the crazy hair-styles vedder has had! eerie.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish I could find more Vedder mohawk pictures besides ones from the RnR Hall of Fame induction of the Ramones. I remember one time seeing a great picture of him with the mohawk playing a ukelele.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

wasn't he supposed to keep the mohawk till there was peace, Johnny "Man In Black" Cash style?

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

pearl jam's second best album!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I dunno I never heard that but that's awesome (xp)

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

what's the 1st?

albums I'd consider No Code being maybe 2nd to: Vitalogy, and um...maybe Yield...maybe Vs.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

OH THOSE FABULOUS PHILLIES

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

haha yeah that caught my eye too

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry so eddy, but Local H's "Eddie Vedder" >> Pearl Jam

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I almost posted the lyrics to that before I found the Yankovic lyrics.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

except maybe "Jeremy." I'll know the the lyrics to that one when I'm 80. How could I forget...

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

vitalogy's first!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

good call!

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i thought for the longest time the lyrics to 'jeremy' were "jeremy spokane / class today". cuz they're from seattle.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~rmleyden/Music_files/image003.gif

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

THE SERPENT WAS SUBTLE

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

THE SERPENT WAS SUBTIL

one thing I remember seeming novel (when I was 12, bear with me) about Vedder was that bellow. I'd never heard anyone so emotional, so involved in the singing. I have to assume it will be at least 20 years before a 12 year old can say that again.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

and i thought til just now the lyrics went "from the black hole"!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oh shit I knew it was spelled like "subtil" or something like that

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

holy shit me and Al are on mindmeld mode here.

(x-post yet again)

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i think its safe to say he was the most influential rock singer of the 90s. i have to imagine he's not happy about it.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

he seems to be more pissed about people biting Layne Staley's style: http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858492607

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

although that song is a hidden track on Lost Dogs at the end of "Bee Girl", so it's kind of a split tribute to Layne Staley and the girl from the Blind Melon video.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

haha first google hit for "the serpent was subtil" is a Pitchfork review of the best-of.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to really like this album. I'm listening to it again for the first time in umpteen years. I have the nine-cards version. Apparently which cards you got was just random. Anyone got a theory about the artwork?
Random thoughts:

- The first track is great and I remember learning the simple guitar part as one of the first tunes I learnt to play. Hail, Hail kinda ruins the effect and I always skip that song.

- Tracks like Who You Are and I'm Open along with a lot of what was on Vitalogy really make me wonder why Pearl Jam have gone down in history as the "safe" AOR alternative to Nirvana who were wild and crazy. Nirvana rocked for sure but after the first two albums Pearl Jam were making some pretty odd recordings. Who Are You is NOT a grunge song for fucks sake. It's barely even a rock song.

- Off He Goes does sound like Bruce Springsteen. Very maudling.

- Red Mosquito used to be used as the background music for Talk Radio.

- Lukin is PROPER ROCKING!!!

- Around The Bend is Pearl Jam's All The Time In The World

- I'm Open is cringeworthy but I thought it was cool when I was 15.

errr... and those are my rubbish notes.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yeah, this is my favorite pj record too. have fond memories of driving to the middle of nowhere w/ this as a soundtrack.

sometimes -> smile is great. dead spots = "i'm open" and the last two or three trax.

never saw why pearl jam were considered a third-rate nirvana--they always sounded much more like a third-rate neil young + crazy horse to me.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

When I finally heard it I thought it quite good. I've only heard it the once, though. (Like every PJ album after the first two.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

This and "Vitalogy" are their best. "Off He Goes," "Hail Hail," and "Present Tense" may give the PJ haters some pause.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone got a theory about the artwork

I'm sure you realized this, but if you fold the cardboard digipak so it lays flat, you can see the outline of a pyramid with an eye in the middle.

Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i never ever listen to this album but i really dig my vinyl copy. the packaging is amazing with all the weird color photos on thick glossy paper. musta cost them a pretty penny to make. and i bought mine new for, like, 2 bucks.they had a zillion of them at the old 3rd street jazz store for some reason.(same place i bought multiple original sealed copies of kain's blue guerilla album for a dollar apiece. they had boxes of them for some reason.) i've probably only played it twice, but i've often shown people the cool graphics.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this one but Yield and Vitalogy are better. Also, I heart Binaural. (but not Riot Act. Ugh.)

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah Binaural was solid but Riot Act was pretty dire.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't snooze on Riot Act!!!! Matt Cameron songs are not to be denied!

Man, I'm really surprised about the Vitalogy luv, as, from what I recall, there were a few stunt tracks ("Bugs", "foxymophandlefivedollars") that perved the rest of the batch. And "Nothingman" did no damn thang for moi. But, yeah, most of it is nice.

I'm a Yield / Binaural man, myself (w/ Binaural as the better album, but Yield being my fave), & No Code is close behind. Bless you, Al.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, Riot Act had some moments. the drab filler drags it down, though, in my opinion a lot moreso than the bizarro filler on Vitalogy, which has at least 7 or 8 of their very best songs.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I definitely go through phases where Yield is my favorite.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The one track on Yield whose intro sounds like "Academy Fight Song" always gives me goosebumps.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

in the five minutes I was listening to the radio tonight walking between the libraries I work at, "Corduroy" came on. EERIE.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Bought this in high school when it was new and I was still trying to like Pearl Jam. Realized: Hmm, I'll never like Pearl Jam. Went on with my life.

marc h., Monday, 14 March 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

No Code is by far their best album, for me anyway. It's them at their most relaxed, their most creative, and it's farthest away from Ten that they got without forcing it. It's hard for me to pick a favorite track, but my least fave is definitely 'I'm Open', which to my mind just feels like a big rip off of 'Deep Kick' by RHCP. I think RHCP came first in 1995, then PJ in 1996...that's not the point, but I heard 'Deep Kick' first and 'I'm Open' just felt hollow to me.

Riot Act is great, but I think the problem with the last couple of albums has been that they're getting into Grateful Dead territory where the live shows surpass the album in terms of importance, and the album is just there to mark the beginning of a new tour. It's in their live shows that the new songs come into their own, and on the album they sound like it's just bare bones. "You Are" is a great song, but the album version pales in comparison to how it sounds live. Then again, maybe it's just that I've become a Deadhead. *weeps*

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, I hear you on that, definitely in the case of Riot Act, it felt like the most minor part of the whole album-tour cycle. and I kinda wish that they didn't always do the cycle in that exact order nowadays, that album in particular would've probably benefitted from road-testing the material first.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I always thought "Ten" and "Vs" their worst albums. "Vitalogy" is where the fun really begins.

OTM Vegemite Grrl. I'm far from a fan, but I've seen'em live the last couple of tours. They're one of few acts who draw inspiration by their opening acts; when Sleater Kinney and Sonic Youth opened for them on the last couple of tours PJ were incredible.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, Ten was my least favorite for a long time (up until Riot Act). Vs. has some really good songs, though.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Vs. is wretched for the most part, Ten has a few very good moments. Neither album has dated very well.

I think Binaural is their most underrated album - not a real dud track in the lot.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"No Code" was at least an attempt to do something different. The only Pearl Jam album where all of the songs don't sound alike. They may have failed, but should be honoured for the attempt.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

VegemiteGrrl OTM

I remember selling Bi... back as soon as I heard a live record that had most of the songs on it and thinking "wow, maybe I'll just buy the live records as they come out, the songs sound better than on the studio records."

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

No Code is a great album.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, wow, Vs. is very spotty. The music's OK, but Eddie gets in his own way lots of times (except on "Rearviewmirror", maybe) (and "Go"). Of course, you listen to local rock radio around my parts, and they play "Go" & something from Ten and wistfully ask listeners, "gee, remember when Pearl Jam used to ROCK?", which I guess is code for "gee, remember when Pearl Jam sounded totally full of themselves, pompous, and humorless?"

BRING ON THE DOPEY ONE-LINERS HATERS

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, Vs. is way spotty. but it's also maybe the only PJ album where I still like all the radio hits (of which there are many). plus some good thrashy moments like Leash and Blood.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha - those thrasy moments are exactly what I was thinking of re: Eddie getting in his own (& his band's) way. You don't need to SELL the anthem that hard, EV - the music's doing that bit for you! Just mewl and bellow a smidge, s'all.

I'm tempted to say part of the problem w/ Vs. is the sequencing. Starting w/ "Go", and THEN following w/ "Animal", it's a bit too much. And then jupming from GET OUT OF MY FUCKING FACE to "Indifference" ... meh. Still have a soft spot for "Rats", though, which quotes Michael Jackson's "Ben", doesn't it? Oh, Edward - so pointed, your social commentary.

GOT A GUN
FACT I GOT TWO
THAT'S OK MAN
CAUSE I LOVE GOD
GLORIFIED VERSION OF A PELLET GUN
FEEL SO MANLY
WHEN AAAAAAAAAAAAARMED

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

on first listen

"Sometimes": wow, it's been awhile since I've been this up close and personal with the veddster.

"Hail Hail": wow, we produce the fuck out of rock these days. we also don't sound this incomprehensible.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

is "these days" = 2005, or 1996, or both?

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"Up Close and Personal with the Veddster" is going to be the subtitle of my 33 1/3 book.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

these days = 2005. i just listened to the radio on the way home. heard that one song (probably three days grace) where the guy is like YOU WILL HATE ME ARGH YOU WILL KILL YOUR LIFE ARGH.

"Who We Are": I haven't heard this track since it came out ("Smile" and "Hail, Hail" were the radio picks, really). Al was fuckin' right about the drums. WTF. this is so hippie.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link

man both this and "Hail Hail" were way more driftier than I remember them being as a kid. Pop really has made my alt-brain all bugaboo.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

"In My Tree": more drums, jesus, wtf. This turn for the eastern really did leave the playing field open for the distinctly judeo-christian Creed. I really have no idea what Vedder is going on about so far. Shocker.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

best part of "Hail Hail" for me is the gradually fading out chug of the drums and the lingering guitar line.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

"Smile": and the A&R man thanked God that they were still nuts about Neil Young.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"In My Tree" and "Lukin" are their best songs evarr! Although "In My Tree" is really just Peral Jam channeling peak-era U2!!!!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The hippy drumming on this album is why this is my favorite Pearl Jam of all! "Release" should've been on this album!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I was wrong before, about what their best songs were, I forgot all about "Release"!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah good call, IMT is kinda U2 ish. in a good way.

(xp I am totally smelling what teh nick is cooking)

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

proof that pop-ism isn't good for you: I would turn "Smile" off the radio before I would turn off "Higher." "Higher" more fun.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"Smile" got radio spins in your neck of the woods, Anthony, really? that was kind of the album where I stopped hearing alt-rock DJs handpick non-single PJ tracks for heavy rotation, but if anything I heard "Red Mosquito" more.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

"Higher" by who? Creed?

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

question - what was the real dropoff for pj's popularity and dominance in altradio? when i went overseas, a few months after vs. dropped, they were huge - the atlanta alt rock station had billboards with just 'PEARL JAM. 99x' on them (now they say 'COBAIN LIVES. 99x', no joke), at least 80% of that fucking album was on altradio, ALOT. when i came back, just before yield dropped, there was this since of 'ok, they're coming back, they've stopped fucking around, accepted their lot in life', the atlanta altradio station played ONLY pj the weekend before it came out, and there was this sense of 'ok, altrock's not gonna die, altrock's not gonna die, 94 forever', and then i only heard three traxx from it on the radio (and only within a year of it's release - i can't remember the last time i heard 'given to fly') and none of them anywhere near as much as even fucking 'glorified g'. so, um, was it vitalogy what did it? or no code?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

well our alt-station was pretty die-hard back when this came out. Chavez's "The Guard Attacks" was a Buzz Track! I dunno if I've heard "Red Mosquito" before, will find out soon enough.

Yes, "Higher" by Creed. Mushmouth liberal slack just isn't as amusing on the radio as the anthem of the jesus donkey (neener neener neer).

"Off He Goes": pleasant alt-country, can't focus on the lyrics on first listen but I like it.

(x-post Vitalogy was the one people bought and No Code gave them no reason to bother again - see Monster and New Adventures)

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

the pacing off this album is kinda goofy from a mainstream rock standpoint. drum circles followed by a turgid Neil number followed by six minutes of alt-country. this is not how you keep your arena authority (the point, I know).

"Had It": low-mic'd little rocker. i'd have to be a fan to care.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"Red Mosquito": I think part of the reason misanthropic rock made a comeback is that Vedder stopped SAYING anything. I don't like this song. hippie RAWK, no...

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

was "better man" pj's biggest hit (merkin ball doesn't count as it skews) pre-"last kiss"? i know reading pj chart standing in the nineties is tricky. what pj songs broke out of the alt ghetto?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

post-Ten, "Better Man" is definitely their biggest number. Deserves the title, too. Not sure if it was bigger than "Jeremy" though.

seriously, if I don't focus really hard he might as well be the male Liz Fraser on some of this shit.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

how big did mirrorball actually get anyhow? what made it to altradio, how much did it get played? was it as big in the larger culture as harvest moon? i remember hearing "sleeps with angels" a little bit on altradio just before i shipped out but it had just hit radio - was it a altradio hit?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I was under the impression Mirror Ball was just a first week deal. Harvest Moon sold like twice as much.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lukin": uptempo gibberish

"Present Tense": downtempo LIVE IN THE NOW. oh man. a nation of children were waiting for something to believe, and Vedder's going hominahominahominahomina. no wonder Fuck The Bitch and Jesus Saves won big.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Mirror Ball had a couple songs that did ok on radio, one with a video (PJ weren't in it, but they taped "Jam" underneath the Pearl logo on the kick drum) and predictably the one that had audible Vedder vocals.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah see i don't remember hearing anything from ten on alt (or aor making begrudging concessions to grunge) radio, it seems like maybe i heard "daughter" or "elderly woman looking for some mayo in aisle three" on ac radio, maaaaybe even top 40.


xpost - that makes sense. harvest moon got ac AND some country radio, even at alt's height those are bigger ponds (and older audiences that don't mind older artists/wonder who the fuck neil young is).

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

OPEN THE FRIDGE, Anthony.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

anything from ten on anything other than alt... is what i meant

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Checked allmusic. "Downtown" was a top ten mainstream rock hit. but so was, wtf, "War Of Man." "Change Your Mind" scraped the mainstream top 20. No modrock chart listings.

Jeremy was a top ten pop hit.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

actually it occurs to me - their ticketmaster battle/lack of touring is probably what knocked them down as much as 'more difficult records', yeah?

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

it sure didn't help. they were the biggest example of how self-crippling alt-arena was. Hard to be small and big at the same time.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"I'm the Ocean" was the Mirrorball tune that justified the $13 (not a bad song either)

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind": OMG this song has a hook! who let that in?

OTM re: "I'm The Ocean."

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

"I'm Open": OH JESUS.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah miccio that 'jeremy' topten listing is a soundscan blip, they released (rereleased?) their 'ten' singles mid-nineties, pj fans (which were legion at the time) gotta gotta have whatever that b-side is (a dime sez it's "yellow ledbetter"), buy it that week, next week it drops like a stone. i very much doubt 'jeremy' fails to chart pop in 92 (when they were even bigger and the video was HUGE), but is a much bigger hit in 95. they're not billy vera.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

It was probably a combination of factors: the Ticketmaster fracas, "No Code," their overexposure. The tide was changing in '98 too. "Vitalogy" did ok and is probably their most consistent album song for song, but it didn't hit number one, the "Titanic" soundtrack was hot, and Backstreet Boys were huge and recording more memorable music than PJ at this point.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind"! Is that the one that uses "enigmatic" in a lyric?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah I wondered about that '95 thing, gotcha. thought it might have been a misprint or something.

lest I sound too dismissive, I totally understand the appeal of this album for people fascinated by the band. The Durst/Vedder thing totally makes sense, this is totally their Results May Vary. I'd say "Last Kiss" was their "Behind Blue Eyes" but I forget if "Last Kiss" came before or after Yield.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

"Around The Bend": wow, my favorite songs on this album are the tender little side alt-country side-closers! i never would have known. I totally would prefer an album of this type stuff to Son Volt.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i'n decidedly NOT fascinated by the band

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

In my post I meant "Yield" instead of "Vitalogy."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised there wasn't an uncredited bonus track of feedback and/or chanting.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I want to hear Yield now. Gotta find that somewhere.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind"! Is that the one that uses "enigmatic" in a lyric?

not sure. You really gotta sit there and go hmmmm to grab lyrics off this thing on the first spin. Kinda reminded me of the D-Plan for some reason. Has the high-voiced chorus hook. I dug that.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

And if you listened too carefully you might get turned off. Eddie had entered the Ravi Shankar phase of his spiritual quest.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard Nusret Fateh Ali Khan. I just know that Tim Robbins, Joan Osbourne and Eddie were mad about the dude.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah! "Long Road"! When I saw PJ in 2003 Corin Tucker added eerie harmonies.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

if anybody has an mp3 of Corin joining the band for "Hunger Strike," hook me up.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha ha "geez Eddie say something" = "please please more shout-along sloganeering". Jeremy's still speaking, mang! Shout it out loud!

Radio around my parts played the bejeezus out of PJ right before No Code hit (and smeared). And, of course, all the Ten stuff on the "hard rock" stations (except when Vitalogy came out, and the alt.rock stations were playing album tracks left & right like "Tremor Christ" & "Spin the Black Circle") (though "Circle" was a single, I think). The one track they played the crap out of more than anything = "YELLOW LEDBETTER" BOO HISS. "Gee, why can't Pearl Jam rip off their hard rock influences more blatantly? Hendrix was cool! Eff Neil Young! Here's some Disturbed! Down! With! The sickness! oooohWAH-AH-AH-AH!"

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"Mankind" is probably the least PJ track on the album, & a rare occasion (aside from "Do The Evolution") where you can actually dance to a PJ song instead of sway & bob your head. Stone's vocals, the hook...there's very little of EV in the song, which might account for it's popiness[poppiness? poppyness?]. Shrug.

The hits defintely stopped coming after Vitalogy. Better Man was as far as it went, and after that the next biggest thing was Do The Evolution which didn't do much from what I remember. Does anyone think this had as much to do with less saleable songs as it did with their whole 'no video' policy? Curious. I always wondered how much that affected their popularity, if at all.

I didn't find VS patchy, I did find the choice of singles weird, because Dissident's probably the best song. Vitalogy is a way bumpier ride to my mind. Damn bugs. damn heyfoxymophandlemomathats me.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Dissident was a single, though! my brother had the CD single, it had a lot of b-sides. got a good amount of airplay, too, at least where I lived.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

and Blount's right, Yellow Ledbetter is the reason the Jeremy single was so big.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

christ - i'd somehow forgotten they'd stopped making videos!

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Really? Dissident was a single here? I guess it wasn't in Australia then. Or I just missed it completely. What were the b-sideS? The b-sides for the first 2 albums were defintely way cool...Dirty Frank on Evenflow had to be the best. Also stuff like Wash, and Footsteps, and yeah, Yellow Ledbetter definitely helped Jeremy.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i have a friend who mixes in liberal portions of "plush" when he sings "dissident" at karaoke - IT SOUNDS GREAT

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Better Man was as far as it went, and after that the next biggest thing was Do The Evolution which didn't do much from what I remember

actually "Wishlist" and especially "Given To Fly" did pretty well.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Doh. Would you believe "doing well" = "songs I like"?

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"Wishlist" is probably my favorite PJ ballad after "Off He Goes." It gets so much hate from hardcore Jam fans too.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, to revisit the "hey, they're ripping off Zeppelin! literally!" days when "Given To Fly" first hit (and then, in my region, missed) radio.

I guess hardcore fans cannot get w/ Eddie's Camaro metaphor.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"All Those Yesterdays" is it re: getting my PJ ballad fix, tho. (Go Stone!)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

'given to fly' was the biggest hit down here, and even then seemed to drop off considerably once yield actually hit and radio figured 'fuck - it ain't happening'. i heard 'wishlist' and 'do the evolution' a couple of times but not nearly as much as 'given to fly' and none of these anywhere remotely near as much as 'sour girl'.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember hating 'Given To Fly' when it came out. It pissed me off so much. In fact, I actually fell off the PJ wagon because of Yield ... which stands as a black mark on my name, apparently. My husband still rags on me about my not going to see them play in Melbourne in 1998, and I lived right down the street from the Rod Laver Arena at the time. All because of Yield. So because it took awhile to come around, I tend to forget about it when I'm talking about the PJ 'canon'. I eventually admitted I was a dumbass and professed my love for Given To Fly, wishlist, etc. So that's my story.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

All Those Yesterdays -- OTM. That was a gem of a discovery once I did get right with Yield. Stone always seems to capture the good things about pop music.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha ha - Blount, I kinda wish the stations up herre pushed "Sour Girl" 1/10th as much as they tried to push "Down". "No, really, rock is back! Listen! They mean it! Grrrr! Weiland is HARD!" No wonder most of the rawk stations in CT gave up the alt.ghost for the shock of the nu and/or retrenched as bastions of all things 70s and mullety.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Or just switched format to pimp out mostly-syndicated hip-hop shows (like Star & Buckwild / the Wendy Williams X-Foliant).

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

if you haven't already checked to see what 10 people are making it blossom, Pearl Jam - No Code (146 new answers) must seem pretty nuts

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you're overestimating the # of folks tricking this thread out, Anthony!

Note to local superstores: plz discount Superunknown so I can give into my urge to buy it again. This $15-16 buck crap ain't gonna cut it.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

You wackjob.

Marcy Playground: WTF? (187 new answers)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

They actually did release a video for "Do The Evolution" didn't they? All animation, done by Todd McFarlane. And Korn used McFarlane for one of their videos too!

Lingbertt, Monday, 14 March 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah miccio that 'jeremy' topten listing is a soundscan blip, they released (rereleased?) their 'ten' singles mid-nineties, pj fans (which were legion at the time) gotta gotta have whatever that b-side is (a dime sez it's "yellow ledbetter")
Funny that everyone talks about ledbetter, it was popular then- but the original jeremy single also featured a song called 'footsteps' that I still think ranks as one of the best PJ songs. The same music was used on a Temple of the Dog song, I forget which one....
(xpost)

mclaugh (mclaugh), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Times Of Trouble is the Temple of the Dog track you're thinking of.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Really? Dissident was a single here? I guess it wasn't in Australia then. Or I just missed it completely. What were the b-sideS? The b-sides for the first 2 albums were defintely way cool...Dirty Frank on Evenflow had to be the best. Also stuff like Wash, and Footsteps, and yeah, Yellow Ledbetter definitely helped Jeremy.

-- VegemiteGrrl (sharonjo...), March 14th, 2005.

I think the b-sides were mostly live but there was also a Vs. outtake version of "Alone" (the version on Lost Dogs is a Ten outtake).

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)

-- miccio (anthonyisrigh...), March 14th, 2005.

if I was drinking something when I read that I would have spit it all over the screen.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

and yeah there was a video for "Do The Evolutioin", which was a sorta-big deal at the time (only got on TRL briefly, though), broke the 6-year no-video streak.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys who like the twangy acoustic stuff must love the "Down" disc of the Rearviewmirror comp, huh? I always got annoyed when they'd release songs like "Off He Goes" and "Nothing As It Seems" as singles, although some of that stuff is my favorite songs too.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The hits defintely stopped coming after Vitalogy.

Didn't "Last Kiss" go to #1?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" was kind of a fluke. I mean it was a hit, but basically what happened was it was on their Xmas single one year, then some DJs picked up on it, and they decided to release it as a retail single and donate the proceeds to charity, and it shot right up the charts because of that. so I could be wrong, but I think it might have just gone to #1 on the single sales chart, like those Bright Eyes singles.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" is easily my least favorite PJ song (that I've heard). At least "Glorified G" and "W.M.A." are funny.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised to know that Betterman was their biggest hit (mainstream rock chart), considering it wasn't even a single. I always thought that Last Kiss was their biggest hit.

buck van smack (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"last kiss" crossed over to ac - pj's biggest hit. crossing over to ac = the story of rock for almost ten years now.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i don't care what anyone says, 'who you are' is godawful. you'd think they'd never picked up a guitar before, and that's probably the point - this band loves to play the self-indulgent card.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Every time I find myself at Best Buy, I'm tempted to buy the last PJ album.

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

probably don't worry about it

'red mosquito' is great, actually

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)
-- miccio (miccio), Monday, March 14, 2005 8:13 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

still hilarious

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

also even though I'm obviously a big advocate for post-megastardom Pearl Jam, I have to say that Riot Act and especially the self-titled album are pretty awful records.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

'in hiding' is a good pj song as far as the more (relatively) recent stuff goes.

the ballads haven't been good since vitalogy

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

No one was as shocked as I was. But it shouldn't have been, as they've improved with each album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the first track on No Code, but it's all ruined by the second one which comes in with all the welcomness of an irritating alarm clock.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Ha - I actually prefer the cover art to the actual album (which has decent enough songs, but Eddie and/or the production just fucks 'em all up).

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah his vocal performances on that album are easily the worst of his career. beyond a couple decent singles I don't understand any of the love for s/t.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mankind" is the reason I once almost considered buying the Stone Gossard solo album.

:)

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever seen al so excited about anything ever

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah I don't know what I was on that day.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

aw come on

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

haha I meant the day I started this thread, not the day I considered buying a Stone Gossard album. is it good? should I?

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea! I don't think I've gotten within light years of any Pearl Jam side project. All my drinking money these days gets spent on keeping up with members of Veruca Salt.

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw a Brad music video on 120 Minutes once. It was a gentle AC piano ballad with Shawn Smith asking you to think what makes you laugh and think what makes you sing. Stone was putting some sparse wacka-chicka on it.

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

All I remember about the Mad Season song they'd play on the radio is jesus christ I hate Layne Stanley.

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

RIVER OF DECEIT

oh fuck you miccio

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"the only direction to go is down"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember a Brad song with lots of slap-bass.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

haha yeah I think Stone had to get his funk jones elsewhere once Pearl Jam banished its wah wah pedal/touring with RHCP/"Dirty Frank" beginnings post-Vs..

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

still a great record!!

ian, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

they were on an episode of Austin City Limits recently, and Eddie did "Lukin" ACOUSTIC WITH A STRING SECTION and they also played "Red Mosquito" w/ Ben Harper on slide guitar, it was like the whole thing was geared toward No Code geeks like me.

some dude, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

weird that probably my 2 most enthusiastic threads ever (this & Philadelphia Freeway) were revived on the same day.

some dude, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Smile" sounds great.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link


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