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John Peel has died of a heart attack while on holiday in Peru. Apparently

jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It has just been confirmed. BBC apparently running stories on TV and radio, nothing as yet on the website but that should soon change.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955289.stm

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/news/altnews/041026_john_peel.shtml

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Stood next to him at a gig once, glad now. RIPJP.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

This is fucking terrible news.

Venga, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the first time I've joined oin on an RIP thread ... this is utterly devastating - the man behind the music and Home Truths :-(

RIP indeed.

Jez (Jez), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no. RIP.

(4 threads too, this is heavy)

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just in the bath when this came on Radio 1, really awful news. After the news report they played the Undertones, and I got a bit teary. RIP

Patrick Allan (adr), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

one thread now. which makes it easier to get my head around it, i suppose.

fuck. that is devastating news. we (not me personally) interviewed him about six months ago: above and beyond the sheer wonders he's worked getting good music heard, he also appeared to be a genuinely decent bloke.

RIP john: thanks for making some lonely teenage nights a lot more bearable!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the BBC online radio player is struggling with demand. i just have this urge to listen to his voice.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I've never actually listened to him and I'm sad. I've only heard good things and all the 'Peel Sessions' cds I have are great.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That's awful. That man was a real inspiration.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP definitely. Like a lot of British posters on this board, I'd be listening to music a hell of a lot less if it hadn't been for Peel.

Chairman ROFLMAO (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Like so many other people of all ages - but I suspect my generation even more than nay other - John was reponsible for introducing me to so much great music through his radio show.

Met him 2 or 3 times and had the pleasure of interviewing for our 'zine back in the early '80's.

He was a very quiet, private, modest and self-effacing man and I really don't think he'd have been able to cope with all the praise that's going to be flooding in over the next few weeks.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The sound of my adolescence in the early '80s was Peel in my headphones. He was talking to me as I lay in the dark keeping myself awake until the midnight shut down. His likes and dislikes framed so much of my thinking then and subsequently. It's easy to remember his championing of Beefheart and The Fall; seeing Peel as the godfather of indie - which in many ways he was; but at that time it was his interest in dub & hip hop that really opened my ears. Radio 1 was very rock and pop in those days, and Peel wasn't.

A few years later I got to know him a bit through a friend and spent a number of evenings drinking with him before the show and sitting in the studio watching him broadcast. He was exactly the same in the flesh as he'd seemed on my headphones. He had that ability to be affable with everyone - in many ways he was a benevolent sociopath.

By the time I met him my tastes had diverged from his and have never really got totally back in sync, but I know my record collection, my listening, and therefore my life would not have been the same without his guidance. A true Reithian and a teacher of the old school...

Guy Beckett, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP John

Damn Yankees- High Enough (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm scared MES'll be next now

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Terribly, terribly sad news. I cannot begin to encompass how much ear-opening music he introduced me to. You always imagined he'd be there forever, playing whatever he liked regardless of any playlists or dogma. A beer or two and plenty of records in his memory tonight, that's for sure.

marco (marco), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

if anyone deserved to live into his dotage it was him :(

martin (martin), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP. I just worked out that I'd been listening to his show since I was 11.

jimet, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP.

sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn.

:(

RIP, John

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Another great man gone too soon. RIP.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Man...I was really sad to hear this. The first vinyl album I ever owned was 25 years of the Peel Sessions. I always imagined he was an interesting, friendly person. RIP.

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

sad news. it's like losing your favourite uncle.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucksocks
RIP Peely

coco, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Terrible Terrible Terrible. As Martin said the lovely thought of the man listening to Gabba, The Fall and and all sorts of extreme music into his 90s seemed like a wonderful thought. A huge loss to music in the UK and all over the world.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

All arguments about John Peel point to one inescapable conclusion: He was Important. And will be missed.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The sound of my adolescence in the early '80s was Peel in my headphones. He was talking to me as I lay in the dark keeping myself awake until the midnight shut down.

Change 'early' for 'late' and that's me.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I never thought of myself as a fan and am surprised by how upset I am by news of his death. Other public figures I thought I admired much more have passed away without my being so deeply affected.

frankiemachine, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I owe my longest overseas friendship to Mr. Peel, who read the address of my dorky, "cheeky" fanzine not once but twice over the air back in 1987, which led to my friend writing me, me writing back, etc. A few years later, I was honored and flattered when he ordered records from me, even calling up once or twice and fumbling with his wallet to get his credit card number. A surprisingly regular guy whose impact an ocean away has been monumental. RIP.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I am really teared up here at work. Music owes him so much. I owe him so much. My thoughts are with Sheila and his family.

The last time i met him he showed me around maida vale and where the radiophonic workshop used to be. And told me that he didn't know Delia Derbyshire but he did know Delia Smith. This will be an everlasting memory of a celebrity who actually contributed something to my life.

May you have teenage kicks all through the night John.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

fucking devastated...

peel guided me musically during my impressionable youth more than anyone else...

RIP

jack batterypack, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolutely lost for words still. Had a profound effect on me and is a huge loss.

RIP.

3underscore (___), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep trying to think of something to add, but I'm struggling.

Like most Brits, Peel entirely shaped how I thought about music. Yes, we fell out slightly when he became techno-obsessed, but that's to be expected.

I'd been compiling a Festive Fifty archive on slsk, I feel compelled to put it on when I get home.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh that'd be great

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

This put a smile on my face:

"After announcing Peel's death on Radio 1, the station played his favourite song, Teenage Kicks, by the Undertones."

frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to browse that Aldo, what's yr username?

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

no one I've respected more over the years. For his championing of Beefheart alone, he's a true giant. But so much more. RIP, Mr. Peel.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I've ever been more saddened to read of someone's death. My first thoughts on reading this thread title were "Ah no, he was supposed to be we us for a long time yet."

RIP Peelie.

Graeme (Graeme), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I've not posted on here for months, yet it was the first place I thought of when I heard about Peelie's death.

A great loss as a man, a great loss to music.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

This breaks my heart.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Like so many here, I am greatly upset by this. I can't express how much admiration and respect I have for John Peel.

Peel did deserve to go gently into old age. He contributed uncalculably to British culture. Many famous people are indebted to Peel. He was very important. But he never let that importance go to his head. He was always that affable endearing shambolic cove with whom you would love to share a pint or two. The world is a poorer place for his passing.

Sincerest condolences to Sheila and the family. But also a hearty thank-you. John was unique.

paul c (paul c), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard the news about a half hour ago and i'm still struggling to take it in. I mean, this was John Peel - I sort of thought of him as immortal. A heart attack is an awful way to go. I'll be digging out my copy of "Teenage Kicks" for him tonight.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Are teenage dreams so hard to beat
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good

I wanna hold her, wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

I'm gonna call her on the telephone
Have her over cos I'm all alone
I need excitement, oh I need it bad
And it's the best, I've ever had

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

xxx

Blasting this repeatedly right now is so cathartic.

RIP Peelie. I'll always remember the Festive 50s, the endless championing of bands I'd never of -- or heard of again -- and, most of all, the deep, abiding love of music.

The Cricklewood Massive (The Cricklewood Massive), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.rocklist.net/festive50.htm

Chairman ROFLMAO (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's even brought Guy Beckett, decent ILM veteran, out of the woodwork (unless perhaps I have missed his appearances elsewhere).

As said on ILE, devastating, shocking, unfair; it is all casting a jagged black shadow of incomprehensibility and unassimilability across the bright London afternoon.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really sad about this, and if I go on the air today, I'm dedicating my airshift to his memory.

What would have been the last song he spun over the air?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

My last memory of john peel on the radio, is being sampled by Underworld last Tuesday. Underworld somehow sampled Peel rambling about Rod Stewart and incorporated it in a mix.

This is still available on the radio player till about 11 tonight - please listen to it again.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I just had to escape this sterile office and go outside and listen to something. Fairport Convention's 'Autopsy' sort of chose itself. I'm just walking around in a kind of teary daze at the moment.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Underworld somehow sampled Peel rambling about Rod Stewart

also Lou Macari!

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

a great great loss. can't begin to explain how influencial he's been for me - I wouldn't have met the friends I did if we weren't scoring the racks for records we'd heard the night before, he was my first contact with the underground, I remember spending Xmas in the 80s alone in a bedsit tuned to the festive fifty, the first person to play my records on the radio, and sitting in on the Maida Vale / portland place sessions were some of the highlights of the last few years. Meeting him as a teenager probably set me in the direction of the music industry. I can't even begin to count my debt to him. (yes of course I didn't like everything he played, but I'd always give it a listen)..

I just had to come home this afternoon. Still in shock. I hope his family and friends are ok. He was dearly loved.


R.I.P. john...

nick.K (nick.K), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

BBC director of radio and music Jenny Abramsky said Peel was "simply irreplaceable". The tragedy is they won't even try.

On the day after Chris Moyles was declared the "Saviour of Radio 1" by Mark Thompson is the day that Radio 1 lost its one true asset.

It's all too sad.

Andy, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP Mr Peel.

Feeling stung, what a shame.

I was lucky enough to be involved in a Peel session a few years ago.

Well, once I found out, I just *had* to work a Fall reference into one of the tracks, just to say a sly hello to JP. I looped and slowed down MES singing LEAVE THE CAPITAL! and at the fade out of one of our songs I played it through my gutar from a scrappy dictaphone speaker.

Of course, Peel noticed! I was thrilled when he played Leave The Capital the night before our broadcast. After the session track played out, the next night, he made a comment along the lines of 'Ah, the great man ranting away' over the MES loop/fade.

Like I say, I was so pleased.

mzui, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Rod, you really should have done that show last week, shouldn't you?

Moyles, you'd better be on your best fucking behaviour about this tomorrow morning, oughtn't you?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The best moment of the last lousy year of Moyles has been Peel's single line contriburion - after 10 minutes of "John Peel's in the next studio!" and lousy jokes and banter about it from Moyleses "crew" they finally asked Peel for his opinion. "Shut up and play a record", he muttered. Enough said.

jimet, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The tragedy is they won't even try.

well i know it's not anyone would want to hear or probably agree with but there's a huge poster by Old Street roundabout featuring Zane Lowe and the legend 'In New Music We Trust' - make of that what you will

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post way upthread - been busy

Same slsk username as here, aldo_cowpat

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

wow.
unbelievable.
one of my friends remembered that peel always joked he'd like 'when an old cricketer leaves the crease' when he dies, so i think we should all be downloading this now and roy harper will have to worry about the missed royalties from those illegal downloads.
twenty years of listening to peel are over.
time to switch off radio 1 i guess.

dr dan, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

My god listening to DJ Spoony attempting to helm a commemorative show is literally painful.

Chairman ROFLMAO (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

criticising people for that sort of thing is just as irritating tho so leave the DJs be please

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

rock star deaths rarely affect me on an emotional level.

but this is so so so different.

my teenage spiritual awakenings/traumas were all soundtracked by John Peel shows.

literally stunned by the news.


m.e


mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I find myself aghast and sad at this news. Peel was no friend to my artistic career -- no Peel sessions ever for me, what seemed like hundreds for Dave Gedge -- but he certainly formed me as a music consumer. All my differences with him now seem like 'minor differences' in the Freudian sense. I feel real grief at his loss.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(stevem xpost)

yes, it's a bit like criticising Michael Buerk for wearing a purple tie when the Queen Mother died. They've had to do a tribute on the turn of a dime so you can hardly blame DJ Spoony for it.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

correction: it was Peter Sissons not Michael Buerk, but the principle's the same.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn that Sissons.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This is true. There's a tribute on to Peel on tonight, although as far as I can make out its either at 10 or 11 and hosted by either Lamacq or Rob Da Bank. Anyone know better?

Chairman ROFLMAO (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

irreplaceable.

RIPJP

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

well the only place you'll ever hear half man half biscuit played on national radio again is kershaw on radio 3. and that goes for, literally, hundreds of other acts. please, no steve lamacq tributes. my mate's hoking out his festive 50 tapes from 1984. maybe we could run a competition to see who can guess what was at number 1? although it might take a while to get the answer...

dr dan, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

11 with Lamacq (the tribute that is..) first we have to sit through 2 hours of Zane Lowe trying to sound sensitive and 2 hours of 'punk' rock first. great.

jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

terrible news. RIP mr. peel.

what a legacy to leave behind though...

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It was How Soon Is Now by The Snmiths (marvellous thing this intrweb wotsit, can't recommend it enough - you really should try it sometime).

What's my prize?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You are officially commissioned to raise Mr. Peel from the dead, if you could.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This sucks.

RIP

I guess we'll probably never see a DJ have this kind of influence ever again huh?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a really sad day and shouldn't be turned into an excuse to snipe at other radio 1 djs, no matter what you might think of them. in addition to being an irreplaceable pioneer of british broadcasting, on the few occasions i met him, john peel was an absolute gentleman, so let's behave similarly, at least on this thread. all i can say is all the best to his family and a big thank you to john himself for being an inspiration to me and so many others. rest in peace.

stelfox, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

your prize, mr osborne, is a shawaddywaddy picture disc signed by DLT.
and THAT is the FUTURE of RADIO ONE.

dr dan, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the second garage rock king gone this month. Who will be the third? It's an old superstition.

John Peel's contribution to rock and roll is inestimable, may he rest in peace.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"your prize, mr osborne, is a shawaddywaddy picture disc signed by DLT.
and THAT is the FUTURE of RADIO ONE."

That is fantastic! A prize beyond my wildest dreams: especially since I already happen to have a picture of DLT that's been signed by all the members of Showaddywaddy - so I now have a complete set which I'm sure would really impress all friends, if only I had any!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

You should organise a festival in that back garden of yours, along the lines of Donington, and make friends there.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Just before I found out I was listening to my joy division/new order cassette, made when I was listening to him.

R.I.P

:-(

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I'd thought of that.

(x-post)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I listened to him only a couple of times in the late '90's when the BBC just started providing webcasts, and yet and yet he still gave my share of little epiphanies: he's where I first heard Ruins, for example, and Yeah Yeah Noh's "Biased Binding." Probably others I'm forgetting at the moment.

It's curious that he's an obviously had an enormous effect on rock music in general, and is revered as a cultural force in the UK, but outside of alt-rock fans here, his name barely registers. CNN had a small obit on their frontpage, but so far nothing on MTV's, Rolling Stone's and Spin's sites (though it might be early for them).

Right now I think I'll play Bridget St. John (yet another artist he nurtured) in tribute.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

noel edmonds paying tribute to john peel on radio 4? i have fallen into a parallel universe.

dr dan, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

and is revered as a cultural force in the UK

that's the one thing that cheers me slightly: that we did love him, and we did show that love.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It is a little known fact that John Peel helped "break" the Beatles in America in the early 60s. let me find the link.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

here is the bbc bio:

John was born in Heswall near Chester, and after completing his military service in Britain in 1962, went to Texas and began working for WRR radio in Dallas. At this time The Beatles success was reaching its peak and John with his Liverpool connections found it helped his ratings to claim acquaintance with the group. He was in Dallas when John F Kennedy was shot and was at the press conference just before Lee Harvey Oswald was shot.

For the next three years he moved to various radio stations in America, among them KOMA in Oklahoma City and KMEN outside Los Angeles. He returned to Britain in 1967 and joined Radio London with the celebrated show The Perfumed Garden.

John has been with Radio 1 from the beginning in 1967, establishing himself with the late night programme Top Gear. John was the first DJ to give exposure to punk, reggae, hip-hop, long before they crossed over into the mainstream. Almost anyone who is anyone in the world of music has recorded a session for Peel.

Apart from regularly topping music paper Best DJ polls, John won the 1993 Sony Award for Broadcaster of the Year and in 1994 was named Godlike Genius by the NME. He also presents Home Truths for Radio 4.

John has been awarded a host of Honorary Degrees MA (University of East Anglia), Doctorates (Polytechnic University of East Anglia and Sheffield Hallam University), Hon. Degrees (Liverpool University, Open University, Portsmouth University, Bradford University) and a Fellowship (John Moores University Liverpool).

John is a lifelong fan of the Archers. He lives in Suffolk with his wife Sheila, affectionately known as The Pig.

John recently celebrated 40 years on the air and continues to seek out the best new music around.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. I don't know what to say. RIP.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Ironically, the tribute is going out on John Peel's normal time slot.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure SPIN (and probably the others) will have something eventually. When I first started going to indie-friendly record stores I kept wondering what these "Peel Sessions" CDs were and it was a SPIN article in the early '90s that explained it to me. There's Peel Sessions on that new Pavement reissue, right? At least that will be something to reference if anybody finds themself trying to explain who the guy was.

RIP.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone remember John introducing Julian Cope on Top Of The Pops with " If this isn't number one next week I'll come round and breakwind in your kitchen"

Play it loud and play it fast tonight.

Steve

Steve WC (Steve WC), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Too young.

Piers (piers), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

WFMU has a picture of him on their website.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, when I was 14 or 15, I automatically identified "Peel Session" as being a stamp of quality. I bought every one I could find and, in the process, defined not only my earliest musical tastes, but a lot of what I still listen to today.

Though I never actually heard his show until I streamed it online a couple years ago, I still feel like I've known the man for ever. Like he was a close friend (which seems to be how a lot of people feel).

I'm inexplicably a wreck over this.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

growing up in us did not have much opportunity to hear the shows but remember hunting down peel sessions on record and poring over lists. he without a doubt helped shape my musical identity which is a huge part of who i am.

(this made me think of the thread on ile asking abt present-day heroes. seeing this thread made me realize that john peel was one of mine.)

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Good grief, I honestly thought he was just going to last forever and ever. I'll crank up "being boiled" tonight as a kind of personal tribute, I guess. Who could replace him?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"It is a little known fact that John Peel helped "break" the Beatles in America in the early 60s."

Yay! Time for our favourite John Peel stories!

Apparently he once jacked in his job to drive Don Van Vliet and Drumbo around in his mini while they were on tour!

Oh and you all just absotively, posilutely have to listen to this!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

but outside of alt-rock fans here, his name barely registers

he was also a big champion of electronic music so please save your generalizations for elsewhere.

tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I always loved how his speaking voice seemed to increase in charm and sparkle as he grew older.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw John Peel outside HMV in Oxford Street yesterday - he's tiny and gnome-like. Then when I went inside HMV I saw Danny Kelly (who, conversely, is enormous) knocking over a rack of Morrissey CDs (more in sorrow than in anger I reckon) then shuffling off like a naughty school boy, leaving a member of staff to pick up the fallen CDs.
-- Dataismus (kcoyne3...), October 15th, 2004.

Deadaismus? (Dada), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

... note the date

Deadaismus? (Dada), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit! RIP.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, "alt-rock" was a hasty choice of a word on my part -- I was left clutching at straws trying to think of something to cover his love of Japanese noise and the Wedding Present and happy hardcore and sixties R&B etc. etc. I almost said "left of the dial stuff."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone confirm that Peely was the first (?UK national?) DJ to play Wham's 'Wham Rap! (Enjoy What You Do?)'?

I swear I remember listening to it on his show (under the bedclothes on a schoolnight, natch) at least 6 months before they blew up...

slim_cop, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

This is, I think, the least jaded RIP thread in ILX history. Indicative of the man. RIP, John.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

what a horrible bit of news to wake up to.

only since the internet have i really had a chance to hear his shows,but i still have enormous respect for the man and what part he has played in forming my musical tastes.

truly sad.

william (william), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I was left clutching at straws trying to think of something to cover his love of Japanese noise and the Wedding Present and happy hardcore and sixties R&B etc. etc. I almost said "left of the dial stuff."

And big band, and Zimbabwean pop, and UK garage, and J-Pop, and techno, and folk, and hiphop and country etc...

Weirdest thing I ever heard him play - Naomi Campbell's 'Ride A White Swan'. He liked it!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

this is fucking awful. I've never even heard his radio show and I find it depressing. RIP. what a loss for the music world.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Since a lot of people in North America became familiar with Peel through buying Peel Sessions (when there weren't any techno/electronic PS's available) then there is truth to the statement that he only registered with alt-rock fans here. Those people might have discovered Peel through Joy Division, The Smiths, The Fall, etc., but that's in no way placing limits on the man's musical preferences (or those of the "alt-rock" fans, for that matter).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Listening to Peel as a teenager shaped my musical tastes forever, and has no doubt influenced the person I am now, the places I go and the friends I keep. He will be sadly missed. RIP.

I'm now going home to play the Mary Chain and The Fall loud enough to make the neighbours bang the wall. Then I'll sooth them wih "Another Day" by This Mortal Coil when hey come round to complain.

multiple xpost - some of the Festive 50 stuff [1983-1989] that aldo_cowpat mentions upthread is also available from my slsk folder, username Onimo. I'll stick the machine on as soon as I get home (7pm) and you can help yourselves.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Devasting, awful news. I've always been so impressed that such an alternative show like Peel's was able to flourish for so long in the mainstream. Inredibly inspiring...

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark E Smith was just on 6 Music saying about how chuffed he was that Peel had said that The Fall's last (final...) session was his favourite.

RIP

neil tacus (tacit), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Terrible news. The community radio station in Madison WI would broadcast the Peel show when I was a teenager...it was so cool to hear what seemed to me an "old guy" genuinely get his rocks off on all this weird,cool, noisy music. My favorite bands wouldn't exist if John Peel hadn't walked among us. May all of us be so young and passionate at heart. RIP.

Bren (Bren), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

a colleague has just come over to gently remind me that our advance radio listings will all have to change before we print the magazine tomorrow.

this had not even occurred to me.

fuck. taking his name out of the listings is gonna really bring this home. i think i'm going to get someone else to do it: seriously.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I listen to bands' demo tapes almost exclusively in the car, in the two-hours' drive back home. [...] I know that I'm going to die trying to read the name of some band in the headlights of a car behind me, and then drive into a truck in front. People will say, "Oh, this is the way he would have wanted to go."

from p221 of Simon Garfield's 'The Nation's Favourite'

Acme (acme), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

gutted, thought he would outlast us all. :(
i'd like to point out that he had a regular half hour show on the World Service, so there are people all over the world who owe the man a debt.
r.i.p.

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder what will happen to his autobiography which he was writing - i'm sure they'll get it out but it will be rather more sombre now

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

R.I.P. Big respect. Remember first time listening to his show on BBC. That guy played some punk rock, some japanese glitch and german industrial drum'nbass. It just blew my mind...

karl76 (karl76), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember Peel playing Level 42's 'Running In The Family' when it was high in the charts. That, and the Ohio Players, Prince Far-I, and Duran Duran's 'Planet Earth'.

Edmundo (Edmundo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

my listened to john peel lots. the last time i heard his show was about 4 weeks ago in her car and he played "weak mcs" by jookie mondo which says it all really.

se15, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

11pm Radio 1 - Lamo with a peel tribute

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

So I didn't grow up listening to him, but he introduced me to the Fall just in the last year. Thanks, John.

Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy Kershaw on Channel Four News: ''He said Radio One was killing him'' Why he got put back an hour i will never know.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad someone said something about that.

neil tacus (tacit), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

so sad. i heard about this morning, as i was driving in the funeral procession for my grandmother.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I only really heard him through BBC World this past year, when I finally got to understand the appeal (outside of the all the Peel Sessions I picked up eons ago). Electic and omnivorous, we can only hope to be so interested in new music after so many decades.

Guymauve (Guymauve), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed. It's well and good to be an expert on bands everyone knows and loves, but what struck me about Peel's show was his absolute and continuing enthusiasm for music being made NOW, and the joy he took in introducing it to his listeners.

Bren (Bren), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

This makes me very, very sad. I immediately thought how appropriate and nice it was that he lived through the summer and died in the fall, without realizing the pun until about two minutes ago.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. RIP.

as other Americans have noted, I only became aware of him through the mighty Peel Sessions releases. To me, the definitive version of "New Rose" remains the Peel one which starts with "Are we really 65 on the charts?!" First heard it -- and first heard The Damned -- on the 21 Years of Alternative Radio CD from 1988; it would be a couple years before I heard the original. And yeah, as others mentioned, was first able to hear him live these last few years thanks to the miracle of this here internet. Most recently, just a few weeks ago when he had Jeff Mills on. Thanks as ever to DJ Martian for posting about that one, and for generally keeping us all informed when there would be interesting guests on the show.

I've known at least two or three minor US indie bands over the years who were positively thrilled to have received play on Peel's show. Forget about minor victories like selling out a press-run of a self-released single or CD; it seemed like the ultimate validation was to get airplay on the Peel show, even if only once.

First thing I instinctively reached for was the Soft Machine Peel Sessions, where Wyatt improvises lyrics to "Moon in June" including a shout-out to Mr. Peel. Got the Dandelion catalog (Siren, Medicine Head, Tractor, Bridget) and some Fall cued up next. Thanks for your good work, John.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Moon in June was the first thing i played too... then the undertones..

Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maria -- oh no.

In the early '90s, Carol and I used to occasionally give our last half-hour on the air to one of those packaged "Peel Out in the States" shows. Unless I'm misremembering, even there sometimes he'd start a record at the wrong speed.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend emailed me today saying "Who's going to play records at the wrong speed for our children?" which is probably more appropriate and poignant than he realised.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

my boyfriend's brother's sister once had dinner with someone whose ex had worked with JP for a very long time.

this person reckoned that the beeb would never again allow one person to gain so much internal political clout as JP - one of the radio 1 studio's aircon goes down, many requests for action to R1 management, nothing - this had been going for months and months. JP is informed of problem, digs out bulging private phonebook and calls one of BBC governors at home, next day problem sorted.

BBC, UK, everyone had him down to keep broadcasting 'til he croaked Alistair Cooke style ie 80? 90? 100? who gives a fuck? they would've knighted him long ago if he would've been uncool enough to accept it.

Home Truths was gonna be his vehicle into serene senility.

so young. very very sad.

john clarkson, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Martian, at what point in the show did Underworld play the sample? I seem to have missed it.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm torn up.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll tell you what - it's the kids who have really lost out here - john has shaped us but there are thousands of teenagers who will never be exposed to the music which peel played. losing peel is a great loss and mainly for people who will never know.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I said it elsewhere in reaction to this: I'm probably not feeling it as much as those who have actually heard the show, but because I know Peel has been a fantastic promoter of music I've loved through the years, I know it's a huge loss. I just wish I had been able to listen in. :(

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Martian, at what point in the show did Underworld play the sample? I seem to have missed it.

it's pretty early on, around 15 mins in? it may be listed as a Mr & Mrs Christmas track on the site

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Sean hit my nail on the head. I've only heard a few Official Peel Sessions recordings, but I also snagged a Nina Nastasia session online that I'm guessing was recorded w/ Peel close @ hand. It was fantastic. He left way too soon. RIP.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel was a producer, right?

Nowell (Nowell), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Today's my birthday, and I've had a shite day...but this has made it twice as worse and yet has still put things in perspective. In pace requiescat, Peelie.

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

What would have been the last song he spun over the air?

I meant to ask, what was the last song he spun over the air?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

so many legends have died during my lifetime but this is the first time i have been really, really affected. so many tears today. it really does feel like one of the family has gone.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe how sad I feel. Shared by more or less everyone I know. Save for family (and not all of them) I honestly can't think of any other death in my lifetime that has affected me so. Really torn up.

RIP.

gerardo francisco, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(Reason being, that I can't pretend anything other than that he HAS changed my life.)

gerardo francisco, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

This is grim news, he was a man among mice

Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The ILE thread is quite a bit longer than this one ... here it is, linked for future reference, since I'm sure people will want to search both in the future:
John Peel RIP

I'm listening (via R1 stream) to the Peel tribute show. It's great, they're playing everything from faves I know and love ("Love Will Tear Us Apart", "Chime") to things I hadn't heard about before today's threads (The Damned's "Cars" "cover", Laura Cantrell). They've just played PJ Harvey and SFA back-to-back. This is great fun, albeit bittersweet fun, of course :(

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

shit- this is horrible news.. as soon as I heard I realised how much good music id heard through him...bad day

squirrelbait (squirrelbait), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel's show was where I first heard so much of the music that changed my life. He DJed once at our uni when I was a wee student - he played "Rebel Without A Pause" for me. Me and Mrs vague have been in shock today on hearing of John's death. There will never, ever be another DJ who comes close to matching what he has achieved.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I was completely stopped in my tracks when I heard this, watching Newsnight; just not right that he shouldn't be around any more... feels like a great chunk of my past has just been frozen, packed away. He has left too soon. :(

A major loss to British broadcasting, and it does feel personal: he did so much to get me into alternative music of all sorts, and importantly did it in an avuncular, laconic way.
One of his major contributions was to increase a knowledge and love of music in his listeners; the younger of us (I first heard him aged 14 in 1997) have benefitted not just from his shows, but the passions they have instilled over the years in his listeners... he does have a legacy and it is showed in the effect upon so many listeners. Let's hope that his example can be followed... he is an 'irreplaceable' personality, my word yes, but there's an ethos that I don't feel we can afford to lose.

Heartfelt condolences to his family, and rest in peace John.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(I first heard him aged 14 in 1997

I first heard him aged 14 in 1987. I love that the 10 year age gap just changes one digit.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I was listening to him aged 14 in 1977, having first heard him aged 14 in 1976.

Still can't find the words. A personal hero, and an absolute lifeline during my miserable fucked-up adolescence.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

If someone can turn up and say "I first listened to him aged 14 in 1967", I'll be very happy, but it won't make up for it not possible for someone to ever say: "I first listened to him aged 14 in 2007".

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for taking Callum's bullshit off this wonderful thread, whoever it was.

neil tacus (tacit), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The CBC radio program As It Happens just did a profile on John Peel and the influence he had not only over radio but over the success of many musicians. And at the end of it they played "Teenage Kicks".

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's been months since I last listened to his show, at least since May/June, if I've listened to the radio at all at night it has been to Mark Radcliffe on Radio 2, I'm sorry about not listening to the programme for so long and it breaks my heart to think I'll never hear him again. He was there when I started to listen to music, and his show was where I did that. I suppose in a way, I took it for granted that he'd somehow always be there, I took him for granted which I'm sad about.
RIP

David Merryweather (DavidM), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

So true, David. I feel very sad that I didn't listen to his show as much as I should have in recent years... but that doesn't alter the epiphany of listening to him through 1998, 1999 particularly, at an uncertain point in my life. I don't know how I'll cope if I dig out any of the dusty cassette recordings I made from his shows in those years... :( Momus was very right that he is partly so loved as he was a sentimental soul, and of the best, genuine sort. Me listening to those tapes now would be like Peel and his relation to Liverpool, LFC, Bill Shankley (anyone remember that TV programme on local musics he did c. 98-9, 'john peel's sounds of the suburbs'? very sweet that was), socialism, The Pig... he feels like family, and also representative of so much that's good in our country; respect for old things he loves, but also a wonderful curiosity about the new. And also a sense of absurdity and making the little things of life entertaining, when just rambling on with that great voice.

As has been said in one of these threads; it just felt warm and right that he always was *there*, doing his show in inimitable fashion, even if we might have moved on from being regular listeners...

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Great! what the hell are we gonna do for a World President now?

Seriously, this is so fucked. I hope the BBC have got at some of those shows on tape. I hope they start classes *teaching* DJs to appreciate music like JP did.

Won't make for the loss of the guy himself though :-(


phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom - I do remember it. I've got the CD soundtrack by me right now. The major thing I remember is him going to the Isle Of Wight... and who'd do that now?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I remember that (talking on the beach with some female indie singer, I strongly remember), and also the trips north of the border to talk to the Delgados/visit Shankley's birthplace (IIRC) and even one to Sunderland, briefly... What's on the soundtrack, William? Obviously Delgados...

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

'John Peel's Sounds Of The Suburbs', Shifty Disco, 2 CD's, these are the tracklistings:

Samurai Seven - Sound Of The Suburbs
High Fidelity - Lazy B
Delgados - Everything Goes Around The Water
Radio Sweethearts - Real Ghost Town
Nought - Cough Cap Kitty Cat (1998)
Pat Thomas - Remembering
Lab 4 - Reformation II
Lucie Chivers - Dioddef Amdanat
Reviver Gene - Strap Me Up
60ft Dolls - Baby Says Yeah
Blew - In C
The Jones Machine - That Booze Magic (Cheggars Mix)

Robert Wyatt - Free Will And Testament
Solid Doctor - Holy Roller
Back To Base - Electric Eye (Crown Yourself King Mix)
Mr Ed - Blue
Lianne Hall - Cosy
Fun'da'mental - Ja Sha Taan
Exploding Thumbs - Desert Song
Waterson-Carthy - Ye Mariners All
Twosheds - Don't Go To Darlington
Myormay - Clear
Comatose - Turtle's Head

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, those last three or four were from the north-east edition. I may have a few of them taped off-air still; i hope i do.

Still struggling to come to any sort of terms about this; especially as it does feel all too likely that we might have seen the end of his sort of ethos; aye, the Reithian ideal, but geared towards independent/alternative ends... it may be possible there could be a national DJ with a notably eclectic taste in records, but it'll take an awful lot of time for anyone to match the broadcasting skills of Peel, and crucially his empathy with all the listeners; he brought a lot more to the table than just a wide musical taste... his whole character was wonderfully reassuring and 'traditional' in some ways, and this, i think, helped him achieve an audience for his music shows...

Marcello is spot-on in mentioning Stanshall and Cutler, btw, in his blog tribute; he did more than any in encouraging these sort of incomparable people. Peel was good in not just going for blanket 'styles' of music, but finding people who didn't fit into 'genres' one iota.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

When the day is done, and the ball has spun
In the umpire's pocket away
And all remains is the groundsman's pains
For the rest of time and a day
There'll be one mad dog and his master
Pushing for four with the spin
On a dusty pitch, with two pounds six
Of willowwood in the sun.

When an old cricketer leaves the crease
You never know whether he's gone
If maybe you're catching a fleeting glimpse
Of a twelfth man at silly mid-on.

And it could be Geoff, and it could be John
With a new ball sting in his tail
And it could be me, and it could be thee
And it could be the sting in the ale.

Acme (acme), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I live in Australia and can only really comprehend the mythical status that John Peel warrants.

I only ever got hear him via the BBC World Service once a week. In that short space of time they broadcasted his hour-long show, I was totally thankful to finally hear what all the fuss was about after only ever reading about this legend (yes 'legend' is now offical) in UK mags such as NME, Record Collector, MOJO, and radio guides.

It's weird, tears have welled up after reading everyone's posts, and yet, I too, feel I've taken the same journey as others on ILM. He was the "Indie Uncle" I never knew! The respect I garnered for him was due to what I'd read other than heard. Damn! I just wish I had a friend in England who could have sent me regular tapes of his shows, looking back.

My sympathies go out to everyone who sheltered under his musical umbrella: he would have been the only reason I wished I was a teenager throughout the '70s.

To quote one of the great '80s bands he so championed.."There is a light that never goes out...".

Rest In Eternal Peace" John Peel

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

His contributions were many and great. He'll be missed.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

JOHN PEEL: The formidable alterno-colossus was the tramp-resembling bloke scowling at the back of that infamous original R1 group photo on the steps of All Soul's Church by Broadcasting House. He'd got there via California, Dallas and the heady days of the 60s pirate stations, but John Robert Parker Ravenscroft (as we're duty bound to refer to him), despite often embodying the exact opposite of many of the station's favourite fly-by-nights, has remained a solid fixture on The One ever since, mostly by dint of being any good. From the days of the wonderfully of-its-time Perfumed Garden and Top Gear, through prog, punk, "new wave" (Gang Of Four and Wire, generally), "indie" (anything on Beggars Banquet and Factory, generally), and onwards, The Peel has championed and promoted the best (and, to be fair, a good measure of the worst - Carcass, anyone?) music of the last three-plus decades, without ever appearing a bandwagon-jumper. Show, until recently, always introed with the increasingly inappropriate blues plodding of Grinderswitch. But at least as much as the music, the manner maketh the man, and the eternally-bearded (even his voice seems to have a beard these days) JP has, in spite of himself, developed an unmistakeable aural persona. Playing records at the wrong speed (still, after about 40 years in which to get it right); never talking over a fade-out if he can help it (often resulting in a battle of wits with some avant-garde stop-start-ending disc); continually praising The Fall above most everything else except Liverpool FC (nothing wrong there); continually bemoaning the state (ie lack of Fall songs) of the reader-voted and self-compiled Festive 50 chart; odd, whimsical shaggy dog anecdotes about his kids meeting the bloke out of Napalm Death on a ferry, or buying underpants; odd, silly anecdotes about long-time producer John "What's on!" Walters etc etc. It all sounds frighteningly misconstrued, but it works, generally due to Peel's unforced and self-effacing on-air style, unlike his one-time sworn enemy The Bates (fact - the only two people in the world who hate John Peel are Bates and the singer off The Pooh Sticks. Enough said.) Still with R1, and is unlikely to be shifted in the foreseeable future - pipe, slippers and fucking in the streets.

courtesy of TV Cream (UK)

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil, from experience at a much smaller broadcaster, my guess is that Peel probably ran tape on every show, if not the BBC itself.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Or: " . . . Peel, if not the BBC itself, ran tape on every show."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Rename the Pyramid Stage in honor of John Peel":
http://www.petitiononline.com/johnpeel/petition.html

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

just back from seeing the Delgados, a band I first checked out in the late 90s because of Peel and have loved ever since. Emma got it out of the way right from the start-- we're dedicating this entire set to John Peel-- and they seemed in good spirits throughout the show.

I was unexpectedly very emotional all day-- PFM officemates, it wasn't my lingering cold that caused my sniffles-- so I can't imagine how those of you in the UK who grew up listening to him felt. The Electrifying Mojo is the closest Peel-like figure I could name in my own life, and that doesn't even touch Peel's impact for you all. And thanks for all of the kind and touching words and links-- even as a lurker, it was a great day to read ILx.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I cheered very loudly when Emma made that dedication, then had to yell in exasperation at the guy behind me who said, "Wait, John Cale died?"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost from the ILE thread)

I figured PJ Harvey would mention Peel tonight at the show and she did, and then brought on a current Fall dude to perform a cover of "Janet, Johnny + James" from The Real New Fall LP during the set. I suspect that's exactly the kind of tribute he would have liked -- something new rather than old.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Final playlist.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the show that Underworld did.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr & Mrs Christmas - 'Dinner at Rods'

this is the track featuring Peel's voice

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They've renamed the New Bands Tent http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3957699.stm

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops, blundered... sorry.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Steve, I did finally get that sorted. Very funny.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

he played my band once... and i gave him a record from my label at this year's sonar festival. that's all my relationship with peel, i only listened to his shows during 94/95, back when i lived in london. and still i'm sad and think it's an irreplaceable loss. he'll be missed.

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just remembered that in addition to his R1 show, I used to turn my aerial to listen (in London) to a very hissy broadcast of the show he did for what was called 'Three Counties Radio' I think, where in the evenings, three local BBC stations (Cambridgeshire, Essex and Suffolk?) joined together. Very similar to his R1 show, but I always felt smart for getting this extra dose of Peel.

I think I drew the line at the quality of the World Service broadcasts, though.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Three Counties Radio (TCR on your car's RDS display) is Beds/Bucks/Herts. And operates all day, I think.

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 28 October 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

one hour q+A with the man .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/media/g2/onemusic/nottingham/datsuns.ram

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 28 October 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed the 'Watch Again' for MES on Newsnight - has anyone seen an mpeg or avi of it anywhere?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 28 October 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/MarkESmithisinsane.jpg

one mad mad picture ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 28 October 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

for those in or around glasgow: bbc scotland have set up a book of condolence at their reception desk in queen margaret drive if anyone wants to write a message to be passed on to john's family. the last day for signing is wednesday november 3.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 28 October 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it wasn't called 'Three Counties radio' then - hearing that name recently might have corrupted my old memory. I'm sure it covered his home in Suffolk, and also he went on about gigs in Harlow a lot.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 October 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I just want to go home and weep now.

Bimble (bimble), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i think his BBC local radio show was on the East Anglian stations, Essex, Suffolk and Norfolk - it was syndicated between several different stations. i don't think it was on 3CR (which indeed wasn't called that then).

GB05? (robin carmody), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks - that's what I was starting to figure.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And as i expected, watching Extreme noise terror last night:

"This is dedicated to our best friend. John Peel"

And so they played "Carry on screaming". Tear to the eye. Carry on indeed, John.

gerardo francisco, Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Just listening to Andy Kershaw's R3 tribute show now. Think it might only be up till tomorrow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio3_aod.shtml?andykershaw

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I must admit that I never knew much about John Peel until now (I knew he was a DJ and I knew about the Peel Session discs, but that's it), and, being an American, I am quite envious of you Brits.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Kershaw's show was fucking awesome and I urge everyone reading this to click on the link above, before it goes away.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Sunday, 7 November 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I must admit that I never knew much about John Peel until now (I knew he was a DJ and I knew about the Peel Session discs, but that's it), and, being an American, I am quite envious of you Brits.

Ha ha! OTM OTM! I've considered myself an anglophile since I was a teenager and have followed UK music religiously and yet I've never felt so envious of the Brits until I realized I actually knew very little about Peel, the man. I listened to his show a lot in the early 90's but wow I wish I'd been able to as a teenager. I remember considering getting a shortwave radio, even wrote down the correct frequency to use but I just don't think I had enough money then.

I'll check out the Kershaw show - I have been tuning in to the Rob Da Bank shows in the original Peel timeslot featuring music Peel picked and prerecorded Peel sessions that hadn't been broadcast yet. Also there is Peel doing a half hour show on the BBC World Service site that he recorded in advance - with two more of these shows on the way. (I say this for anyone outside the U.K. who might be looking for a way to hear the man himself in action)

I've recently been looking up the Festive 50 lists and trying to get ahold of any stray songs that I don't already know of yet. I have recently discovered I am head over heels for mid-80's band the Very Things - they were like Bauhaus crossed with The Fall crossed with Half Man Half Biscuit or some such wonderful thing - pop and goth at the same time. Incredible.

I'm gonna see if that Kershaw show is still up.

Bimble (bimble), Sunday, 7 November 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It is still up! Listening to it as I type. Thanks!

Bimble (bimble), Sunday, 7 November 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i did a peel session tribute today too on my 'vintage cuts' show.. played the fall, undertones, the banshees, gang of four, early pavement, pulp and stereolab..

chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 7 November 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The listen again thing seems to be being gay for me this morning but the playlist is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/andykershaw/pip/9efk2/

Some good stuff there, bookended with spot-on choices. Neil Young's 'Country Home' is great: its the opener of 'Ragged Glory' & when I first got a copy I listened to that track about 20 times on repeat before I wanted to hear the rest of the album!

Mooro (Mooro), Sunday, 7 November 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a great show. It's mainly music, but manages to remind me of the John Peel I knew better than anything else I've heard. Good old Kershaw.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Kershaw reminds me of Peel considerably more than Rob Da Bank does.

neil tacus (tacit), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess we're old, but yes.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Watching the Peel documentary last night it struck me that the Punk revisionism that annoys so many in ILM (that stuff about not being "allowed" to like Yes etc) was John Peel's doing to a very large extent.

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Did Peel actually stop playing prog etc. overnight when he discovered punk?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Punk didn't happen overnight so he didn't stop playing prog overnight but he expunged most of it as soon as he could and then airbrushed it out of his personal history and spent the rest of his career either ignoring it or sneering at it - including stuff he once liked

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Economist obituary

john'n'chicago, Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So next time some twerp moans about how the "Punk Rock" orthodoxy prevents them from admitting to enjoying "Brain Salad Surgery" or "By-Tor the Snow Dog" then I'm gonna wave their precious St. John of Peel in their faces!

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I am prevented from admitting to enjoying "Brain Salad Surgery" because everything I've ever heard from ELP sucked rocks, including that. "By-Tor" I like, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Not sure the New Hipster Orthodoxy has rehabilitated Rush yet

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There's that one (American? Canadian?) indie band that people were yakking about earlier this year that apparently was doing the Rush thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

What? Silly vocals, Ayn Rand or playing basslines with your feet? Or all three?

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

If you look at Peel in the 90s/ 00s he still carried on playing some art rock/ space rock/ ambient that was inspired be the pre-77 Peel years

Peel Sessions bands index 1992-2002
http://www.vheissu.freeserve.co.uk/bands.html

The Orb : who can forget that 20 minutes plus opus.. A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld (Loving You)
Appliance
Nought
Aereogramme
Global Communications
The Boredoms
Circle
Godspeed You Black Emperor!
and Stereolab stole some music ideas from Hatfield and the North and National Health

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, I doubt many punks had time for say, psychedelic folk, either, but I don't think he ever renounced the Incredible String Band et al.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i found this while surfing around enoweb today. it's a brief interview with thom yorke and brian eno on radio 4. i thought what they had to say was quite poignant.

tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

its not as if can, neu! and kraftwek (who were all noted as influences to a lot of the more experimental punk troops) weren't a million miles away from the psych and ambient bands of the era, either

chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Thousands mourn Peel at funeral
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4005023.stm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I found this picture of his wife and children to be very moving.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40519000/jpg/_40519207_sheila300.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Before punk came along, Peel had quite an ambivalent attitude to prog. I guess he had championed psychedelia from which prog arose but he never liked the pomposity found in some of prog. He used to call ELP, Emerson, Lake & Parker. (He had this theory that if you wanted to insult someone you should get their name slightly wrong.) He was quite a champion of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells.

Amarga (Amarga), Saturday, 13 November 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The lack of consistency in Peel's taste over a period of 40 years is hardly surprising. He never made any bones about the fact that he liked to be proved wrong or to re-evaluate his taste through new developments in music and new things he was listening to.

Isn't this exactly what all of us mean when we say that music changed our lives? The difference with Peel was that it happened to him numerous times throughout his life in his thirties, forties, fifties - not just, unlike most people, just the once during adolescence.

Venga, Saturday, 13 November 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

He was quite a champion of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells

From what I understand, that song featured the voice of the only person Peel would have wanted to be instead of himself.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I just lost my shit watching the BBC News report about his funeral. Seeing his coffin being carried out of the cathedral while 'Teenage Kicks' blasted over the speakers was hilarious/righteous/unutterably sad. RIP John.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You think maybe THIS was enough to get Feargal Sharkey to get back together with his mates? It's not worth it.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

eh?

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno. I had heard the Undertones had been touring without Feargal Sharkey. I had the thought that maybe they would be hanging out together at Peelie's funeral and they would reconcile. Maybe Feargal would show up at a show, march up to the stage, say "I can sing 'Teenage Kicks' better than that geezer," grab the mic and retake his rightful place at the front of the band. Then I thought, this was kind of a selfish fantasy so I posted a corny email to try and atone for it.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

My apologies, I didn't realise that Ferg was estranged from the rest of the 'Tones.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He was quite a champion of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells

"...that song featured the voice of the only person Peel would have wanted to be ..."

OK, nobody took my meager bait up there. I was refering to comic genius Vivian Stanshall, a great mate of Peel's apparently. The other day I can across a copy of the brilliant "Sir Henry at Rawlinson's End," Viv's contribution P.G Wodehouse Upstairs/Downstairs comedy, and of course it eventually turned it out that Peel played a part in the making of it. Man, the guy really had a hand in everything. John Hammond couldn't shine his shoes.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Viv Shanshall was great. Peel used to have him in a lot in the 70s.

He had this theory that if you wanted to insult someone you should get their name slightly wrong

I remember him playing a Bowie track in about 1978 and saying 'If he'd been called Neil Bowie instead of David, do you think people would still revere him?'

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 14 November 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

He had Stanshall in regularly up until his death.

This may be worth a new thread, but a whole lot of people completely renounced prog around '77, and I think Peel wasn't the cause of this, just the most prominent example. When something new comes along it does cause a reevaluation of what's there, and punk, to a lot of us, felt like a very clear statement of what had been unsatisfactory in what had been on offer for the last few years in rock (this was obviously part of its explicit intent, even manifesto). I suspect it is hard to grasp the force of this impact if you are much younger than me, and I am struggling to think of something that has worked the same way more recently.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 14 November 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know when this article by John Peel was published:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/prius/partthree/story/0,14196,1322037,00.html

Rethink

John Peel wants radio playlists scrapped and more stations taking risks with the music they play

Interview by Chris Borg

.........

These are words of wisdom from John Peel that everyone at Radio 1 and 6 Music should be made to read.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 14 November 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Just last month - 9th Oct.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 14 November 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel Night on Radio 1 - 16th December
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel.shtml

Keep It Peel
John Peel Night on Radio 1

BBC Radio 1 will pay tribute to the late John Peel through a night of live music to be broadcast on Thursday 16th December from 7pm.

The night will be hosted by Steve Lamacq and come from the world famous BBC Maida Vale studios, the scene of many a Peel Session.

Throughout the evening every studioat Maida Vale will be taken over as a whole host of bands perform and talk about John and the music he loved.

The schedule for the night will run as follows:

7pm - 8pm
Teenage Dreams So Hard To Beat
Kicking off Peel night, Radio 1 takes a look back at the career of the great man with a one hour documentary celebrating his extraordinary life. The show will feature tributes from The Undertones, Orbital, the Cure, New Order, Supergrass, Robert Plant, Underworld, Siouxsie Sioux and the Buzzcocks.

8pm - 11:30pm
Live music from bands that John championed including the Wedding Present, Nina Nastasia, Hefner, Trencher, Melys, Steveless, Stuart Murdoch (Belle & Sebastian), Special guests tbc. Steve Lamacq will be introducing the bands and linking it all together.

11:30pm - 1am
The DJs take over with sets from Underworld, Hixxy, Coldcut, Shitmat, Grooverider plus Dynamite MC on mic duties.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for relating that DJ Martian! Something to look forward to after my final exams for sure!

Bimble (bimble), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I think the 'Keep It Peel' night went out while ILX was down. The documentary narrated by Jarvis Cocker still seems to be available on Listen Again though. If you missed it, check it out while you can. It's a bit of a tear-jerker and no mistake.

Teenage Dreams So Hard To Beat

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 31 December 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 31 December 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I cried through about 90% of that documentary. Didn't think I was going to, but I guess it just happened.

Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, me too. The last ten minutes were particularly harrowing.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 31 December 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished listening to it. A good way to salute him in the space of an hour. Indeed and again, RIP.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 December 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I made an mp3 of if which I'll have shared on slsk sometime tomorrow if anyone wants to grab it (username: third_i).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 31 December 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
I'd been compiling a Festive Fifty archive on slsk, I feel compelled to put it on when I get home.

Aldo, did you actually do this? I've just been asked to play a six-hour Festive 50 set in Hamburg next week, to commemorate the first anniversary of the lovely chap's untimely demise, and I could really do with, ummm, lots of songs.

Of course, if anyone has the whole blimmin' lot on CD and is prepared to lend them to/born them for me, for a small fee, I would be VERY interested INDEED!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I realised yesterday that I owned the #26 in the 1996 FF: "Stunt Girl" by AC Acoustics. If you want it, I'm selling it on eBay! Otherwise I could burn the first track for you and send it to yr email address. I doubt I own anything else out of the ordinary FF-wise (Cocteaux, Smiths, Fall, MBV) and it's all on vinyl anyway.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Aldo?

Anyone else?

I guess I should probably get me hence to the YSI thread with a hefty list...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

i transfered a bunch of top 10s of festive fifties to mp3 the year before last and gave them to people in lieu of christmas cards. i'm not sure i kept a copy for myself though, plus they are mp3 and hard to play in normal cd players (dvd players, yes, cd players, no)

that's not how you spell cocteau. you're thinking of 'gateaux'...

koogs (koogs), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

> next week, to commemorate the first anniversary of the lovely chap's untimely demise

er, so that's three weeks from now then... 8) he died on the 25th, not the 13th. nobody at the bbc seems to have realised this though.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

So he did! Well anyway, my thing's happening on the 22nd, so I'm closer to the real date than the Beeb and the Royal Festival Hall. Ner.

Koogs, if you can perhaps YSI any of your Top 10s as zipped folders or something, that'd be unfathomably amazing - depending on which years they are, obviously...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 10 October 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

er, like i say, i don't think i kept a copy for myself. will look. as for years, 85 - 91? and they were straight dumps of the tapes, peel intros, mistakes and everything. anything you specifically want?

koogs (koogs), Monday, 10 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

oh. that might be less helpful, in fact. much as i love peelie's meanderings, i'm not sure i want them in the set.

that said, if anybody knows of anyone who's done a cut-up/mash-up of Peel's voice and made it into a track - Carter's "Rubbish" excepted - I'd love to hear it!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

the bbc's "peel day" celebrations are specifically marking the date of his last show on radio 1 rather than his death.

mark h (mark h), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

The Echo in Los Angeles is having "John Peel Day" this Thursday - DJs spinning stuff from Peel Sessions. Yay.

Lukas (lukas), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

We've made http://gabba.cc a peel tribute for the week, so feel free to upload your files ..

jk_ (jk@gabba), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Cocteaux is the plural of Cocteau obv.

And here is a lovely Peel/Down Down mash thingie by the Cuban Boys

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

ok. i redid 1985 top 20 as individual tracks. plus i have my cocteau singles box and fall peel sessions box with me if there's anything you need from those. bbc website has ff listings in full.

as for mashups, there's one on the 'listen with sarah' site but i don't know whether it's suitable for public viewing 8)

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

ok. i redid 1985 top 20 as individual tracks. plus i have my cocteau singles box and fall peel sessions box with me if there's anything you need from those. bbc website has ff listings in full. (and it's in your email)

as for mashups, there's one on the 'listen with sarah' site but i don't know whether it's suitable for public viewing 8)

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Charlie, I'll check tonight if I've still got them and if so send a DVD of the mp3s (they should all fit on one, I think).

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

This week's NME features John Peel on the front cover. "Special John Peel Tribute Issue"

http://www.nme.com/images/82_151005_johnpeel_cover.jpg

Are they using the image of John Peel as a pseudo icon brand for street cred? [when the NME in 2005 doesn't match the diverse ethos of John Peel.]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

THE BAND WHO MAKE BABYSHAMBLES LOOK LIKE JAMES BLUNT

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

the telegraph, of all places, is serialising his book at the moment

http://telegraph.co.uk and then click on his face...

(firefox users may want to add http://*NetGravity* to their adblock lists beforehand - the page kept crashing out on me...)

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Martian, you do amuse me, with your one-track devotion to your enemy, your NME.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

"Click on his face, just click on his face"

Where's Barry Davies when you need him?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Charlie, would vinyl rips do? If so, I may possibly be able to help you with a few, esp from like the last half of the 80s. Mail me if interested.

(Apart from ensuring there are no skips + setting the levels to avoid clipping, I can't do any postprocessing or give guarantees re quality, though.)

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

thanks, folks, you've been most helpful. what i'm going to do is whittle down the whole gigantic list of everyfestivefiftytrackever down to 200, then 100, then 50 - my co-DJ and I have worked out we get 45-50 tracks each, so there'll no doubt be some serious horsetrading at the 11th hour...

"ok, you can have 'razzmatazz' but only if i can have 'everything's gone green'" etc

then, when i've got my dream list, i'll figure out what i'm missing. i know already that i'm in serious need of a lot of HmHb and Cocteau action, but a lot of the latter is hardly dancefloor material...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, I think maybe all that Kershaw stuff about him being the single most important figure in British music for the last number of x decades was actually true.

I still can't believe he's gone.

Venga (Venga), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Are they using the image of John Peel as a pseudo icon brand for street cred? [when the NME in 2005 doesn't match the diverse ethos of John Peel.

If they were ignoring the anniversary you would be complaining Martian. Although, yeah, it's clearly much easier for the NME to deal with Peel as part of the past now than it was when he was still challenging their orthodoxy.

Venga (Venga), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Two years ago today.

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow actually.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

it was still the 25th in Peru.

and the news was embargoed until 2pm on the 26th here, to let his family know i guess, so who knows the exact time...

(have just been puzzling over this myself. do deaths all occur in GMT?)

still, 8(

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think for history, the local time counts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_peel only mentions the 25th.

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

6music are broadcasting his last show on Radio London (1967?) all this week. It sounds like it's been whizzing round the cosmos for 30 years and has JUST arrived at your radio - terrific stuff.

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

No doubt Colin Murray will be commemorating the occasion with exclusive tracks from Kasabian and The Automatic.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

Biography Channel page (which is showing something at 21:00 tonight if anyone gets it) says 26th (which is what got me puzzling in the first place)

was on a train (on way Home for a funeral) when the news broke and i didn't find out until i got there about 4:30ish. spent rest of the day glued to the radio.

that last show is 5.5 hours long in total and oddly mainstream. has been available on web for a while (if it's the one i'm thinking of). a lot of it's patched together - new recordings with his links put back in. it's also the show where he reads out that bit of winnie the pooh. worth a listen.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

2 years ago it was on announced via the media on a Tuesday afternoon circa 1.30pm, so yesterday my thoughts were connected with John Peel

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

No doubt Colin Murray will be commemorating the occasion with exclusive tracks from Kasabian and The Automatic.
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), October 25th, 2006. (nostudium) (later)

QFT.


"As we all know, John was a great supporter of the kind of music that, perhaps for time reasons, we just don't get the chance to give our full backing to on Radio 1. He was the first to play both reggae and punk to a British mainstream audience, and his death was mourned throguhout the indie, rock, dance, rap, and pop press. So, in a tribute to that, here's "Californication" live at the Reading Festival. Godspeed John"

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

(this year Peel Day on Radio 1 seemed to take back seat to Beck in the studio. they played the top 10 of the Millennium Festive Fifty (all time, voted by fans) interspersed (often interrupted by) phoned-in comments from the likes of Annie Mack)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'll never forget how much I hated the egotistical woman in my office who was once again chattering away about nothing when I found out Peel was dead. She wouldn't have known who he was. I could have yelled his name in the street right then and no one would have known who he was. I was devastated.

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

I must say the biography Margrave of The Marshes has turned out to be quite a treat. His sense of humour caries it along beautifully.

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

(autobiography says the 26th btw)

Peel Box being broadcast throughout the day on radio6 (about 20 tracks i think, spread throughout the day. some are listener choices, some are chosen by his family)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 26 October 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

i bought that "right place, wrong speed" compilation the other day, but i guess that's a lazy-ass way to remember the great man. what i need to do is find something absolutely unheard-of (and brilliant, natch) somewhere on the interweb and listen to it at full volume.

two years! wow. i don't believe in any kind of afterlife, but if i did then i hope JP would be rocking bells out of it.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 26 October 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

I've said it elsewhere, but the Tom Ravenscroft channel4radio website shows are excellent, and very in keeping.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

So they're still beating Peel's corpse in order to promote the same ol' rubbish indie bands then?

The Real Esteban Buttez (EstieButtez1), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

I've said it elsewhere, but the Tom Ravenscroft channel4radio website shows are excellent, and very in keeping.

i'd second that. i listened to the last two driving down the treacherous A9 in torrential rain the other night, and they were absolutely great. true, he's not yet played anything that's made me go "JESUS CHRIST THAT'S AWESOME" but then i guess his dad only did that, ooh, twice a week :)

he's funny, nasal, self-deprecating and enjoyable, and plays all manner of stuff i'd never hear anywhere else. egg plus meat equals man, for fuck's sake! (who were shit, but never mind).

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

it doesn't have to be unheard of, just new to you is enough. peel would play things from the 1930s if he felt they were worth hearing.

try dandelion radio too. (myspace.com/dandelionradio)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

So they're still beating Peel's corpse in order to promote the same ol' rubbish indie bands then?

As a rule, if any band have this:


http://cyberai.com/peeltribute.jpg

Pass along this small tribute, copy this code.

on their Myspace, then they always certainly never listened to a Peel show in their life because the music was a "bit weird".

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit look at this site (am I the only one who didn't know of it?)! It's got a fucking track from the Nick Drake Peel Session!! *faints* Can I please go home from work now?

http://www.jonhorne.co.uk/jptapes/jptapes.html

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know about it, but thanks for the link. I'm now listening to 11th Feb 1980 with sessions from the undertones and delta 5!

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Never thought I'd find shows from that time period either. I'm really excited.

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

Happy 70th.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 30 August 2009 13:57 (sixteen years ago)

Thread still makes me ;_;

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 01:33 (sixteen years ago)

sad stuff indeed.

sam500, Monday, 31 August 2009 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Six years ago. There's still an obvious void left behind.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 October 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

I've been reading "John Peel: A Life in Music." The haphazardness of his early years makes it clear that the music world was very lucky to have John Peel end up doing what he did for so long. I can't imagine the stars ever aligning again to let a dj tenaciously investigate and promote and record new music, yet have the continuity of decades and the platform of a national radio broadcast.

bendy, Monday, 25 October 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

Wow. Six years. Still missing Peel big time.

Of course there are enough shows ripped by kind people on the internet that I could probably still spend the next decade or so listening to him as much as I did in my teenage years (still sometimes find bits of paper I scrawled misheard song titles on to look up on Ceefax the next morning), but for some reason I've done very little of that. Partly not knowing where to start, partly the sadness of a show so forward-looking trapped in amber.

what is he like? the guy's a juggalo, man (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 25 October 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

I listen to his shows all the time. God bless the internet.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Monday, 25 October 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

where are some good places to get old Peel shows?

tylerw, Monday, 25 October 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

I found a bunch of Festive Fifty episodes on P1rate B4y.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Monday, 25 October 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

there's an entire internet group dedicated to preserving and archiving those sessions... a friend of mine is in it and tyler I can try to hook you up if you fail to find other sources.

sleeve, Monday, 25 October 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

I have a bunch of "Peel out in the States" CDs, and a couple of C90s where I hadn't edited out JPeel from the songs (I did this once, tape lost anyway)

Mark G, Monday, 25 October 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Er...this is impressive. 254 shows from '67 - '04:

http://soundcloud.com/das-boy/sets/john-peel-show/

millmeister, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPzyN8Qq5XA

Jaap Schip, Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:23 (thirteen years ago)


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