― Omar, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
'Exit the Dragon' is absolutely 100% classic. 'The Mistake','Take Me', 'View of the Rain', 'Tin Foil' , 'Digital Black Epilogue' - fantastic all of 'em.
"Not long for this life, Not long for this world, whoa-oh-oh t-t-ake me goddamit, take me back again! "
Stuff the wretched Go-Betweens, this is what we want!
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Edward Okulicz, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
So, I'll shut up (for now), but I could talk for hours about 'Exit the Dragon'. And you all thought that I was a cynical old bastard...
― DR. C, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Went to see The Breeders and Luscious Jackson in Manchester about 8 years ago - UO were third on the bill, and the only reason for the attendance for most of the Probe-affiliated Liverpool scenesters who surrounded me in the bar area. I managed about ten minutes of their flabby 70s rock swill - they reeked. DUD.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― alex thomson, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― keith, Wednesday, 14 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Omar, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I have avoided the early stuff, and have not really liked the later albums. "Accelerator" was interesting, but I couldn't get into it. I probably should have tried harder with that one.
― Dr. C, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Urge Overkill: Couldnt really pull it off live either, but SuperSonic Storybook is an absolute no questions asked classic. That album is spot on all the way. The 70's swank image was a lot of fun. Didnt dig Saturation - too much like Bachman Turner Overdrive. Exit the Dragon was a step back in the right direction.
The biggest mistake they made was claiming their image was all in jest and good fun. I recall Nash saying "Its a joke, nobody is getting the joke". Well F' that. If anything, real rock stars would self proclaim they were the coolest cats with a mocking smile, swig down some martinis and give the world the middle finger.
― Cash Lone, Friday, 23 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 20:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 14 January 2005 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 14 January 2005 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 14 January 2005 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 14 January 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Don't have the 'Mondostereo' thing. Didn't Killdozer do that great Bad Company cover for . . . what movie was that?
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 14 January 2005 08:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 14 January 2005 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 14 January 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― ng, Friday, 14 January 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Fredland (jfredland), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
the best thing about UO was that they wrote a song about stalkerswho they thought were sincere fans, but it turned out theywere stalking them because they thought UO sucked! SUCH IRONY!Isn't that the awesomest thing ever?
― uo=stp, Friday, 14 January 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Awesome Welles (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh, and Classic. I don't have a lot of love for Exit the Dragon, but based on some of the posts above I'll have to find my copy and give it a spin.
Also, "Stalker" the song came first, then "Stalker" the hate zine. The ladies who made the zine used to come into the Rainbo when they thought Nate would be there, one of them wearing a horse costume (because they thought Nate looked like a horse), and hang around being pains in the ass until they got kicked out. I vaguely remember a physical confrontation between Blackie and one of the women one night at the Rainbo, so I'm pretty sure the Urge guys weren't big fans of the zine.
― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 15 January 2005 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link
I think Geffen had dropped so much money into UO to have a huge hit album, which didn't happen, they were screwed.
What I thought was funny about Urge is that they went from a cool indie rock band to the most uncool major label band in literally the time period of a summer. I'm sure Jawbox, Jesus Lizard and Jawbreaker and other bands of that time had many fans turn upon them for going to a major, but I don't think any band quite got the shit like UO.
― earlnash, Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Saturday, 15 January 2005 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link
It's one of the few vinyl tracks I would convert to MP3 if I wasn't so lazy and actually worked out how to do it
UO seemed to think they were far better than they actually were though
― William Nicholson (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Saturday, 15 January 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I never really got off on UO, I liked "Stull" when it came out, but every time I've listened to them since, one track is great, but it's kind of enough, because I start getting very distracted 1 verse into the second number. If I want that awesome american heavy pop-rock kind of sound, Red Kross' "Phaseshifter" is the one for me. My god, what a mighty album that is.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 15 January 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Destroy: everything else. Exit the Dragon is bullshit. The only track that sounds like they weren't phoning it in is "The Mistake," and that's only because Blackie was so fucked out on smack that he couldn't help but capture it on vinyl at some point. Nash and Roeser's songs are mostly crap -- "Somebody Else's Body"? You gotta be freakin' kidding me. After the great Cheap Trick pastiche that is "Saturation," this was much of a letdown as I've ever experienced from any american band, and I'll never forgive those jokers for it!
― J (Jay), Saturday, 15 January 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 15 January 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. Sardonicus, Saturday, 26 November 2005 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link
based soley on the amount of copies available for less than 5$.last splash is ALWAYS 5$ or 6!
but, all that aside, UO=grand. i loved them so...they made me wish i could be them when i was like 15.saw one of the reunion shows, not as great w/o Blackie O...still alright. King's a sweater, tho. no, not like a turtle neck, but the man's got some sweat flarin.nash looks exactly the same. just not as nice as he should be...all things considered.
― eedd, Saturday, 26 November 2005 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Their live at Maxwells album is really pretty good. I'm surprised that anyone would like Exit The Dragon over Saturation, but it's a big world. As time goes by, their trio of Storybook, Stull, Saturation (hmmm, maybe they fucked up by not calling it "So Long Dragon") are holding up really well. Wish more current indie-ish dudes could sing like that.
― dlp9001, Monday, 9 November 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6AFfQBxx4w
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 9 November 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread lacked youtoobz
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 9 November 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS-WUsfdOgI
classic
― ice cr?m, Monday, 9 November 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i love exit, maybe as good as saturation?
― like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Monday, 9 November 2009 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Still think this cover might be my favorite of all time. I mean, it's probably terrible in a way but looking at it always makes me so happy
http://991.com/NewGallery/Urge-Overkill-Saturation---Oran-424122.jpg
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
I even love the Geffen symbol hanging up there like a distant star.
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
i had the orange vinyl! and i always wanted one of those 'catch the fever!' UO tee shirts kurt c wore...
― Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
On the inside, there is a man thereStrapped in a black chairAsk him his name, and he'll say, and he'll say:I am the late Alpha of electric OmegaTried and fried down in GeorgiaBut my body won't dieHit me againFried on the insideFried on the insideBut alive on the outsideTwo-minute warning soundsEnthroned is a killerHe's double dead nowI'm walkin' down death rowDon't want my mamma to knowHer little chickenToo young to fryAre you scared of dying? - I don't mind if I goTell me why you're crying? - I don't know, I don't knowHIT ME!
Hit me again
Fried on the insideFried on the insideBut alive on the outsideTwo-minute warning soundsEnthroned is a killerHe's double dead now
I'm walkin' down death rowDon't want my mamma to knowHer little chickenToo young to fry
Are you scared of dying? - I don't mind if I goTell me why you're crying? - I don't know, I don't know
HIT ME!
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
Saturation is such a good album, i feel like america failed these guys
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
and yeah, saturation cover is brilliant
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
saturation did okay. i think it's more that exit the dragon failed america.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
exit the dragon is great!
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
― LISTEN TO THIS BRAD (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
exit the dragon is good its just a major downer
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3fsaa-SgZw
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
Saturation is so great, but I still always wince when the vocals come on in The Stalker.
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
nah, the vibes and production are cool, but the tunes just aren't there. (with the exception of "the mistake", of course. that one's great, but it fucking towers over the rest of the album.) jay otm 7 years back:
After the great Cheap Trick pastiche that is "Saturation," this was much of a letdown as I've ever experienced from any american band...
my favorites, ranked:
SaturationJesus Urge Superstar (really hard not to call this my favorite, but the production is a huge obstacle)The Supersonic StorybookAmericruiser (half brilliant, half pretty good)
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
Saturation had "Sister Havana" right? that was on MTV all the time at least.
Supersonic Storybook is their classic imo.
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
We've never recorded in the big leagues before.
Is this thing on?
You got it
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
these guys never delivered on the hooks/melodies front like I wanted them too
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
also "Bottle of Fur" lol ok we geddit
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
i can't think of a band that seemed so equally earnest and ironic. even on exit the dragon, where clearly little fun is being had, they're just trapped in this self-aware wanna-be superstar crying over cliches mode. totally disagree with shakey on the hooks front, songs are jam-packed imo
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Truman's Water?
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
haven't heard them, only vaguely aware of the name
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't being entirely serious.
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
i love love love exit the dragon.its like the darkest corners of the 70s rock world all encased on one perfect album.still getting my head around the new one.
― mark e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Also - what is the song sampled at the end of Nite And Grey under the lines I quoted above? Sounds like Love's all around, no need to waste it?
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
I had Jesus Urge Superstar back in the day and the only song with a hook I could remember was the one they didn't write
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
Oh it's "Love's ALL Around". Well, never mind then
xp
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
xp dang, you got standards. saturation is about as hook & tune heavy as a power pop album could hope to be. easily holds its own w/ nevermind, phaseshifter and bandwagonesque (comparison to immediate peers).
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
mary tyler moore theme
didn't really give the new album much of a try, felt like they were getting back to the pre-supersonic sound, which is eh (ok shakey, if you're talking about the first two albums rather than the three - two on a major - that followed, yes they were low on hooks)
part of why i've never been able to get into BOC is how relatively glib they sound, aside from the occasional Buck Dharma love ballad or hard rock hit
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
"man uo just never brought the hooks on their unpopular obscure debut album"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
so obscure teenage me in the middle of nowhere suburbia got a copy
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
"i grew up in a cool suburb"
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
also isn't that their third album...?
my suburb sucked lol
mine too!
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
iirc I got it cuz it was written up in Spin and Daniel Clowes did some of the sleeve art
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
and there was other stuff on Touch and Go that I liked a lot
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
you're talking about supersonic storybook then, not jesus urge superstar
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
"nash was the walrus""shut up, shakey"
and I saw them play (I think after Saturation came out?) - Luscious Jackson opened and UO had a big black guy in a cowboy hat playing bass for some reason and they were terrible
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
I saw them open for The Breeders in London and I bought a UO medallion from the mercy stand which I have since lost =(
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
it's all originals? but yeah, it's not much of a pop album. hooks are definitely there, but they're primitive, subverted, buried in noise and murk. i like the combination of ridiculous ambition and complete ineptitude, the way these magnificent ROCK OPUSES occasionally become visible through the fucked-up production and arrangement. but i've spent a LOT of time listening to it, so...
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
haha mercH stand
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah Supersonic Storybook was the one I had. sorry for the confusion.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
(was referring to the song "Emmaline" as being the only memorable one btw)
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
The shadows make no sense on that Saturation cover
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
supersonic storybook is rad
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://tyrannyoftradition.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/deathtongue2.jpg
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
i thought "mercy stand" was intentional and brilliant
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
it's nighttime! all the lights are on! also the sun is out.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
I wish
― The Merch Seat (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
also the sun has a sticker of a sun on it http://www.emotty.com/images/emoticons/907.png
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
theres a brighter sun out of frame
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
if the UO is supposed to be the sun there's even more things wrong with those shadows
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "Positive Bleeding" is hook after hook after hooker, such a jam
― Euler, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
I always thought it was the moon
― The Merch Seat (admrl), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
"ridiculous ambition and complete ineptitude" describes my favorite indie rock over the years (e.g. JAMC)
― Euler, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
― da croupier, Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:24 AM (13 minutes ago)
the glibness never bothered me, but then i love stuff like sparks and devo, too. also, i find BOC's commitment to geeky cult/fantasy/sci-fi stuff entirely convincing, if no less tongue in cheek than anything else they do. i think there's a sense in which music can "mean it" while being completely cartoonish and silly at the same time. "ballroom blitz", for instance. the whole thing's a punchline, but i never doubt the band's commitment to their material (or "the concept" or w/e). same goes for the best BOC and urge overkill. it doesn't matter to me that "positive bleeding" might be a goof or pastiche, because the sound and feel of it win me over so entirely.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
dug out saturation a few weeks back, and found that inside the cd sleeve is an unused UO logo sticker, which i had forgotten all about.
may have to finally use it now ..
― mark e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
even on exit the dragon, where clearly little fun is being had, they're just trapped in this self-aware wanna-be superstar crying over cliches mode.
i think that's why i love it.
― Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
i was slagging exit the dragon pretty hard a couple weeks back, but [full disclosure] it'd been a while since i last listened to it. really shouldn't do that, as my recall is at least as hazy as my opinions are changeable.
anyway, as part of my recent nostalgia lap around the totems of wasted youth, i spent a good portion of the day listening to urge overkill and realized that it's not so complete a failure as i suggested. it's not a great album, but it's got two brilliant songs ("need some air" is every bit as good as "the mistake") and a few good ones to wash them down (notably "the break" and "somebody else's body").
the problem is that about half of its songs are underwritten, lifelessly performed and pointedly dismal. the chorus of "this is no place" practically dares you to nod and hit skip: "this is no place, this is no place that i want to be / this is nowhere, this is nowhere to be." "take me" seems always to be building towards a climactic harmony that it never finds. "monopoly" is a great idea poorly delivered. it should have been this album's "emmaline", but it just winds up a unfinished sketch.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
gonna take a stab at rock & roll submarine tomorrow...
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link
I have to think looking back in hindsight that outside the obvious (the drugs) one reason they never really got over is that they really were not quite as good live as they were on record. They really were never a complete 4 piece band, which their sound really needed to be (even though later Nash moved to guitar and they had a bassist live). I saw them once earlier as a trio and they were fun, but kind of sparse compared to the 90s Cheap Trick sound they nailed on Saturation.
I saw them twice and dug 'em ok (although the time as a trio was much more stripped down), but really the records worked in some ways better than they actually were as a live playing group.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
the chorus of "this is no place" practically dares you to nod and hit skip
but that's why i love it! its so wasted and miserable...
― Made with creme colors that do not exist (stevie), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link
I saw Urge Overkill live several times during the Saturation/Exit The Dragon era and they were always good.
I think one reason why they've struggled is that Saturation was an anomally for them. Nash Kato was really on a hot streak with songs like "Sister Havana" and "Positive Bleeding" and became the focal point for the band. On pretty much all of their other albums, his tunes are much goofier and take a backseat to King Roeser's more gruff and downcast songs. I'm ok with this because I really love songs like "Jaywalkin'", "The Break", "This Is No Place", "Last Night/Tomorrow", but I can see why this doesn't appeal to a lot of the folks that were drawn in by the Saturation singles.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
I've always felt like Nirvana's success was some sort of cosmic mistake, and it's no surprise that bands caught up in the wake would fail to thrive. UO was a band that by all logic should have remained just-under-the-radar, and rising above that level, even for a minute, really (nearly) killed them.
I kind of like the idea of Exit The Dragon vs. Full Blown Posession (Grifters). Solid indie bands, caught up in the moment, fail to thrive with final totally-decent album. (Ok, Rock & Roll Submarine fucks up the "final" bit, but this remains essentially true).
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the passing of both of those bands kind of marked the end of...how you say...guys doing guy rock and roll. Hello space-age bachelor music, etc...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
I can see why this doesn't appeal to a lot of the folks that were drawn in by the Saturation singles.
― Moodles, Tuesday, August 7, 2012 7:12 AM (4 hours ago)
sure, but i was drawn in by jesus urge superstar. i'd been a fan for five or six years when exit the dragon came out. though i'd had to work hard to understand jesus urge superstar, and though americruiser was disappointingly slight, they at least gave me cause to stick with them. exit the dragon marked the first (and last) time i'd really disliked an urge overkill album. part of my distaste was undoubtedly the dashing of overinflated expectations, but it's still the weakest album they ever made, imo. it'll probably never be a favorite, though i'm inclined to be more forgiving of its faults these days.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
goodbye to guyville
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
just starting to explore rock & roll submarine. it's a lot better than effigy led me to believe (not that it's a bad song, necessarily, but it didn't impress me on the first pass).
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
I have a nice buzz and Saturation is hitting the spot. What a fun rock record.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
Saturation is so so excellent. Come on, "Bottle of Fur."Nash Kato's solo album is also really good.
― The Velvet Fog called me a motherfucker (Sandy), Saturday, 27 September 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
For whatever reason, I'd never actually googled "Artane." I also never paid close attention to the lyrics of "What is Artane..." I think I carried over the goofball cover art and some of the goofball songs on Supersonic Storybook, but that's a seriously dark song. Also maybe my favorite thing they did, though there are a lot of contenders. What's weird is that I'd read the NY Times article on (supposed) Artane abuse in Iraq, but somehow the connection didn't click. Anyway, still leaning towards Supersonic as their best, but I was wrong upthread about Exit.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
I had heard a bit about the whole 'stalker' routine, but this kinda seems like something out of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia".
https://thechicagoambassador.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/20-years-later-urge-overkill-stalker-discusses-her-antics-still-wants-to-drive-the-band-crazy/
― earlnash, Monday, 12 June 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
Man the new one is surprisingly fun, I love these goofballs.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link
I gotta check it out
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link
Sad news:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-06-14/blackie-onassis-urge-overkill-john-rowan-drummer-dies
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link
Oh man, that is sad. RIP
I always liked these guys, even well after the rest of the world stopped paying attention. Oui was a pretty good record.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:23 (ten months ago) link
That sucks. I saw them in '93 and wound up sitting next to Nash and Blackie at a bar afterwards. They were total dudes.
― henry s, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:27 (ten months ago) link
oh no.fuck.loved these guys.r.i.p.
― mark e, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:29 (ten months ago) link
(realize probably in poor taste to single out Oui given that he's long been away from the group, but just appreciate any chance to give these guys some love)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:31 (ten months ago) link
What a sad synchronicity--I pulled out Supersonic Storybook earlier this month for the first time in years, and have had "(Today Is) Blackie's Birthday" in my head ever since.
― blatherskite, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 19:18 (ten months ago) link
I really loved Urge Overkill a band that occupied a very odd space in rock music. Really nothing like them. Especially their odd, transitional records. and of course, Saturation is a full blown masterpiece, the great Cheap Trick album of the grunge era.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 19:22 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-f4glTOdw
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 19:49 (ten months ago) link
relistening to 'saturation' for the first time in years and grinning like a cheshire cat all over again.at the time i was bored with grunge, but this crew cut through all that, and hit the spot for me.
― mark e, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 19:56 (ten months ago) link
still got the sticker that came with the cd edition of Saturation.no idea if linking to a picture on twitter works anymore, here goes.
https://twitter.com/marke23/status/1669075241526517760/photo/1
― mark e, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 20:24 (ten months ago) link
ah, as expected. hey ho.
― mark e, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 20:25 (ten months ago) link
Exit The Dragon is such a great, sad, complex album. Like the inevitable comedown to follow the artificial high of Saturation and all that Erica Kane. Saturation has such strong songs, but Exit The Dragon was their great work.
― serving aunt (stevie), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:40 (ten months ago) link
the rest of the songs are unfortunately overshadowed by "Girl, You'll Be a Woman Soon" but the Still EP is probably my favorite overall
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:16 (ten months ago) link
Stull, even
I love Exit The Dragon, it really got a bad rap. Many years back I spotted King Roeser at SXSW. I went up to him and introduced myself and said I loved that record, especially his songs. I think he was a little shocked like no one had ever said anything good about it to him before.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:30 (ten months ago) link
Moodles and stevie otm, Exit the Dragon is a killer album and the band’s best. Love to see it appreciated.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 June 2023 01:50 (ten months ago) link
RIP Blackie. Re-listening tonight. What incredible guitar sounds and gorgeous, dry recordings. Love the hard panning. Emmaline and Stull title track hitting hard.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Thursday, 15 June 2023 02:25 (ten months ago) link
Supersonic Storybook is sounding great, very odd mid ground between Saturation and the more knotty Touch & Go Chicago rock style
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 June 2023 02:44 (ten months ago) link
you got to ro-oh-ah-ohsister hawana
― mookieproof, Saturday, 17 June 2023 04:52 (ten months ago) link
Woman 2 Woman my fave track of alltime of theirs, total banger with the most insupportable lyrics & the worst line everGirl what's your sign, Vagittarius?
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 June 2023 05:44 (ten months ago) link
oh no
― mookieproof, Saturday, 17 June 2023 05:53 (ten months ago) link
:D
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 June 2023 06:00 (ten months ago) link
A serious rock band. Saw them (without Blackie) in 2004, and they totally blew me away. Still one of my favorite gigs ever.
Storybook, Saturation, Stull and Exit all excellent. Gonna play Goodbye to Guyville this morning. RIP Blackie.
― Mule, Saturday, 17 June 2023 07:39 (ten months ago) link
Girl what's your sign, Vagittarius?
was listening to Saturation a few months back on a sentimental journey to where I grew up and was obsessed with it as a teenager, and that lyric jumped out. Is it about loving a woman who loves women?
― serving aunt (stevie), Saturday, 17 June 2023 10:11 (ten months ago) link
yeah but more gross - it’s about wanting to bone a lesbian & turn her straight i don’t know that love is involved lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 June 2023 16:05 (ten months ago) link
ha oh god that is gross as fuck. oh, the 90s.
― serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 19 June 2023 08:31 (ten months ago) link