Lansing-Dreiden-The Incomplete Triangle:Album Of The Year?

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okay, it's only Feb 2. I realize that. But I can't stop playing it. I love the songs and the sounds. I like how they remind me of stuff i like, like Golden Earring, and Spacemen 3, and Slowdive, and Alphaville, and lots of other stuff, but they don't sound so much like any of them that i get distracted by it.They are very clever. I need more stuff like this.


www.lansing-dreiden.com/

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

"Glass Corridor" is amazing. If Interpol caught on, surely this has the potential to be huge too? They have a great new 4 song EP as well... that album has been out for some time in a self-released capacity.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

This description from Scott intrigues me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

wow. good shit.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

The copy i got is on Kemado Records. i don't know nothing about them. Yeah, i want the e.p. too. the mp3s from the e.p. on their site sound great.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

"i don't know nothing about them."

hmm, are you sure you aren't in the band?

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

me, heck no. i wish. well, that's not true. i don't want to be in a band. i performed with my brother's band in december at the knitting factory though. i threw records at people from the stage after defacing them properly with a magic marker. the records, not the people. i got a press thing that sez they are dudes who are an art/design collective from brooklyn who put out a newspaper called Death Notice. I'm gonna write a review of the record though, and send it to my editor at the communist newspaper i write for. i really dig it. hence the thread.

i don't know anything about Kemado. i googled them and it seems they may be linked to Palm Pictures somehow. i can't look at their website cuz it's too high tech for me.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:15 (twenty years ago) link

Kemado seems to be putting out the less hyped NYC "post-punk" bands like Elefant and The Fever. Interesting that they got the Lansing Dreiden record, because it really is so good... I guess other labels would be afraid of being accused of trying to duplicate Interpol's success maybe? (I bring up Interpol because there are a few similarities -- singers' voice, complex and melodic basslines). Anyways, I'm glad to hear it's coming out because it's a really pretty album.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, i like it a ton more than the interpol, but i can see why you would bring them up. the difference is the lansing-dreiden doesn't smack you in the head with their influences. they are there, but it doesn't take away from the music.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

Scott OTM. L-D is great, btw.

dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Eternal Lie soooooooooo could have been a Thin Lizzy song.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Now I'm digging on this album. I love the spaciousness.

Maria D., Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

YEAH ITS AWESUM

If anyone wants to buy copies, ebay is currently good for getting them cheap

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=lansing+dreiden

dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Impressed.

gazuga (gazuga), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link

im more into this album then i was before i like how the last songs all sound like new order

chaki_burger (chaki), Monday, 24 May 2004 06:17 (nineteen years ago) link

the vocals on "metal on a gun" sound a lot like mid-70s moody blues.

milaca, Monday, 24 May 2004 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
So, who were/are these people? I wasn't crazy about the last few songs or something, but this album is strangely awesome at numerous points.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Any band that can make a writer cite Golden Earring AND Slowdive AND Alphaville must have something going for them. Looks interesting - will add this to my weekend shopping list.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:19 (eighteen years ago) link

It could have been really good without that awful guitar sound.

snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh dear, maybe not then. What's wrong with the guitar sound?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

It wants to make them look harder than they really are.

snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 28 July 2005 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i love this album!

huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

this should go on the "bad reviews that make you want to hear the record" thread:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/l/lansing-dreiden/incomplete-triangle.shtml

it's a scam!!

jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

What did you expect? It's Ott.

The A Sectioned Beam EP is also quite good, if you're looking for a taste before trying the album.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 28 July 2005 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i'm not really surprised, just slightly amused that the "don't enjoy this, you're being FULED" thing still pops up now and again.

as for the lansing-dreiden-artband-spectacular, i listened to the "glass corridor" mp3 on their site, and it's rather nice.

jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link

we talk about the ott review on this other thread:

Article Response: Lansing-Dreiden - 'The Incomplete Triangle'

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
New album coming in May! I actually responded to spam to make sure i get a promo which is something, remarkably, given how much spam i receive, i rarely ever do. in other words, I iz anticipating this album!

Hyperbolic and possibly untrue press-notes to follow:


"Lansing-Dreiden enters 2006 with The Dividing Island, an album that realizes the company's potential in new, transcendent ways. The Dividing Island is Lansing-Dreiden's second full-length album and it will be out May 9th. Its first full-length, The Incomplete Triangle, was self-released in 2003 and was hailed in the pages of Spin Magazine as "dreamy space rock... with a psychedelic metal twist." The Incomplete Triangle was followed by an EP, A Sectioned Beam, praised by Time Out New York as "an airtight example of textbook pop perfection." Both titles were reissued by Kemado Records in 2004.

With The Dividing Island, Lansing-Dreiden explores the theme of division. The titular island divides; the album's lyrics and music point at this process from various angles, illustrating the emergence of two sides, and a line in between. This scenario appears simple enough, but is deceptively so-in the world depicted by Lansing-Dreiden, division and duality are not necessarily states of distinct sides. Progression and regression intermingle, ascension and descension flip-flop. Against this complex landscape, Lansing-Dreiden builds a brilliant and perplexing album, one possessing a wealth of possible interpretations.

What is the dividing island? The album's lyrics paint a picture not of a specific place, but of a general, nebulous state of opposition; yet out of this abstract milieu, concrete meanings may also be derived. "Cement to Stone" and "A Line You Can Cross" -two songs whose lyrics tell of edges, angles, and horizon lines-both feature dueling vocals, lows and highs, suggesting accounts of the lines between men and women. "One For All" and "Dethroning The Optimyth" conjure images of war by way of lines like "Twin black wings descend on me/ Finish me," against others such as "Much before the sword's satisfied/ You can make the whole thing right."

Musically, the theme of division is set forth in the opening track, "Dividing Island," which consists of two completely contrasting sections, sharing only lyrical and melodic phrases. This song begins with lush, languid waves of psychedelia, breaking abruptly into an exuberant, exhilarating call-to-arms. If these two parts represent the two halves of a dividing whole -a dividing island-Lansing-Dreiden reunites the island, revealing the oneness of the parts by using them to build a cohesive, infectious song.

This pattern pervades The Dividing Island. Many of the album's songs weave disparate musical elements into intensely familiar yet uncategorizable wholes. The modern mixes with the archaic, the known with the unknown. On "One For All," a traditional pop/R&B song is layered with darker sounds, alien to that genre -ominous chords, ghostly harmonies, and a recurring drum sample evoking the sound of gunfire. "Dethroning The Optimyth" tempers a power-metal assault with angelic vocals. Elsewhere, jangly guitar hooks are soured by dissonant keyboard swells; electronic cadences rattle along beside acoustic drum breaks; vocals soar, warm and emotive yet mysteriously veiled. Culling irresistible sounds from rock, pop, R&B, soul, metal, and beyond, Lansing-Dreiden reconfigures the divided into unpredictable, utterly unique sums.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

So in otherwards, the Boo Radleys? *hides*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"Much before the sword's satisfied/ You can make the whole thing right."


This is obviously a hidden message to Kemado Records: Don't spend too much money on The Sword! Our album is really cool too!


scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Does it make it sound like a Boo Radleys record? Were they R&B psychedelia? I can barely remember. I always get them mixed up with Teeage Fanclub.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, this bit:

Culling irresistible sounds from rock, pop, R&B, soul, metal, and beyond

...might as well have been a PR release point from them circa 1995.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

The description makes it sound like it could be a complete mess, but these dudes are really UN-messy. So tidy and geometrical. So i'm not scared.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned, did you ever hear the last album?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I did! It was enjoyable but I can't say I felt greatly moved beyond that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay, looking forward to this, too. Two in one day!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The album's lyrics paint a picture not of a specific place, but of a general, nebulous state of opposition; yet out of this abstract milieu, concrete meanings may also be derived.

MY EYES ARE BURNING

"The Incomplete Triangle" was really good though, so I still want to hear the new one. More Boo Radleys, less "Movement"-era New Order sounds accurate.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

the album name and "concept" are giving me flashbacks to 90's pink floyd.

bell labs (bell_labs), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i really enjoyed the incomplete triangle. it had this chameleonic, zeligesque quality where a band sounds so much like other bands that it is original again. it's almost like they started where others ended and made something new. as if they took up golden earring, new order, gang of four, the beach boys etc. when they were on their apex and topped them. they are a little bit like a supernova that explodes in a million different directions. i don't know any other contemporary group like that. i am curious about the new one.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Was supposed to come out next week. Anyone heard it?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

someone was supposed to send me a copy, but they never did. i will buy it though like a true fan.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Coincidence! Didn't get response from label re. promo so sent band themselves an email today and signed it, "Your fan."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 04:48 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, the band sent me an e-mail and i told them that i couldn't wait to hear it and i got a copy today. they really liked the review i wrote of the first album. as well they should! i put more than my usual ten minutes into it. maybe even 20 or 30! and i wrote it for free! on the internet!

anyway, it's good! the first song is killer. as is the last song. i need to dig into it more. the production is great. lots of cool sounds dropping in and out of the mix. i think you'll like it, tim. i need to listen more though.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link

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Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link

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Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link

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Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link

YAY!!

city of gyros (chaki), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Listening to The Dividing Island right now... Reminds me a LOT of Not Drowning, Waving.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

entertainment weekly called the new album "yacht-rocky"

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

new album is bummer to the max

kevin barking (arghargh), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"Derivative to the point of originality," says Zach Baron in Village Voice piece about live show. I'm not satisfied with that analysis, but I think there is some truth to it.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 May 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Both assertions in the whole sentence are cryptic: "Derivative to the point of originality, their music made Reagan-era familiar sonics strange."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 May 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link


L-D Section II Tour Dates
6/9 Washington, DC @ Black Cat (w/ !!!)
6/10 Philadelphia, PA @ Transit (w/ !!!)
6/19 Seattle, WA @ Chop Suey (SOLD OUT)
6/20 Portland, OR @ Doug Fir Lounge (w/ The Black Angels)
6/22 San Francisco, CA @ The Independent (w/ The Black Angels)
6/24 Los Angeles, CA @ Troubadour (w/ The Black Angels)
6/30 New York, NY @ Bowery Ballroom (w/ Grizzly Bear)

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 May 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dividing Island is pretty interesting, as in they don't quite sound like anyone else right now. I find the production and the use of effects somewhat obscure the impact of the songs. Gratuitous use of reverb, perhaps? I need to listen more.

But after two listens, none of the melodies or arrangements stick with me. I can't really remember anything about the album. This could very well be one of those slow growers, but I have a feeling that the overall hazy aura that surrounds these tracks might be detracting from the songs.

But still, tons of ambition. Which really counts for something these days. And not that Sufjan Stevens/Clap Your Hands Say Yeah parade rock ambition. This is the ambition you heard in Prefab Sprout and China Crisis records.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 25 May 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a weird record. and one that is hard to get a handle on. you can bring up every 80's synth act in the world, but there is still something indescribable about the mood of the thing. it is strangely muffled at times. almost dubby. but that's not it either! i think i'll listen again now.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i shall listen too, scottie

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

it's funny, i got the new scott walker album and i "get" that record more than this one. i mean, if you have listened to tilt enough times, or even climate of hunter, you can kinda see what he is aiming for, even if it is difficult to explain sometimes. this record, i don't know what it's aiming for at times! and it's not difficult to listen to. i was never very good at math. all the songs are about geometry.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

the third track, "a line you can cross", is truly fucking bizarre

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

production very similar to hounds of love, also

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

they have a video for a line you can cross on the kemado site, but i can't get it to work. i gotta go try the other computer.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't get it to work on lansing-dreiden's website either. they probably use some futuristic version of quicktime that i am too slow to know about.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i hope the live show is good!

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think they actually play their own music live. i think they get other people to do it:



"The Dividing Island is Lansing-Dreiden's second full-length album, just recently released May 9th on Kemado Records. Live, L-D Section II are astonishing and refreshing, especially with their new line up bringing hints of shoegazed synth pop struts with new lead singers Sect and Ion. L-D Section I, a 9-pc band that performed Lansing-Dreiden's music in a live setting had sold-out shows in New York, Seattle, and Austin. This will also mark the debut of L-D Section II playing in selected cities."

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it dwarfs the first album a bit, maturity-wise.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

this band is weirder than I thought, i guess...I still haven't heard the new one, but the first one is quite good. the vocals sound like the Hollies!

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

drugs don't do this justice

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"i don't think they actually play their own music live. i think they get other people to do it:"

well, duh, i finally actually read the voice live review that tim linked to. looks cool. and i like that review.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

omg i am getting matos fired from emusic.com for slandering me in print one year ago this is an outrage.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Look: I emailed these kids before that review ran and offered them the opportunity to back up their bullshit. I wasn't going to put that out there without giving them a fair shake, a chance to prove they understood the iconography they were hiding behind. Because it could have been a very deft and decadent little niche of dead-tech minimalist nihilism, if that gets you off...

All they had to say for themselves was "Please don't be mean to us, we're just trying to have fun!" They're limp liberal-arts kids looking for fame, as childish and childlike as Len. But they've been to school and been around enough to know the easiest road to a reputation: courting overzealous tossbags with ambiguity and obfuscation. Lansing-Dreiden continue to build the biggest, whitest slate for pseuds to write spiraling academic architecture - the fait accompli that buttresses the band's naive thievery of thoughts and forms they don't even completely understand. They might as well have called their album P-KKt3.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

So, what are these thoughts, forms, and iconography that they don't understand and hide behind?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

P-KKt3

that would be a good title too!

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"for pseuds to write spiraling academic architecture"

the pitchfork reviews are the only ones that read like that though.


"They're limp liberal-arts kids looking for fame"

aren't they already successful designers? and every one of their actions as musicmakers leads me to believe that fame is the last thing on their minds.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"Fame" does not mean "on Pop Idol," Scott - you can be famous in large and small ways, and for a variety of things. It's a question of wanting a reputation - "Famous for..." - and it's clear - to me, anyway - that they want to be considered an Arty, Detached, Intellectual, Informed band, like the bands they idolize. They're asking you to cement that reputation, to make it for them, because their retiring, Who-Can-Say? gags, by definition, can't speak for themselves, and they know self-promotion is gauche.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Why can't they be judged purely on the merits of their music? I could care less about whether or not they're designers, or assholes, or whatever. The last thing I would ever want to do is hear what Brian Wilson thinks about anything other than music, and even more specifically his own music. But he makes great songs.

I don't know if this is a good record or not. It's not really my stylistic bag, but the clips on AMG sounded nice. Maybe it falls apart on closer inspection, but at the very least the songs are pretty lovely compositions (if emphemerally so).

I understand that this kind of music is Ott's turf and I can understand wanting to defend it, but I think there's something to be said for competent, interesting music, no matter how derivative, no matter how boring / pretentious the creators.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"an Arty, Detached, Intellectual, Informed band, like the bands they idolize."

maybe that's just what they are though. i take their word for it. they put out a newspaper, they design stuff, they make cool music. i don't think they are frauds. looks like they are having fun AND actually doing stuff! frauds are usually kinda lazy.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"I understand that this kind of music is Ott's turf"

it's definitely my turf! if i had turf. and i say thumbs up. i confess, i don't know what ott's turf is. but he is hung up on indie cred or something, and that's just silly. and, yeah, the extra-musical stuff really doesn't affect me. i'm aware of it, cuz i've read stuff, but it's not what i think about when i play the songs.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I sense a coming turf war, with bodies in the wake.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Your position strikes me as Rockism Case Study Numero Uno, Chris. Ignore the musical triumphs because the group is not authentic enough and their songs do not have enough relevant content.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It feels to me like there's this wordplay in your review. You write some of their compositions off, for example, as "academic run-throughs." The use of the term "academic' strikes me as a sort of smokescreen. In the context of trying to paint them as *art school poseurs* or whatever, it's convenient for you to use the term "academic" against them. Naturally, the intent was not just to reinforce your argument about their allegedly (pretentious/shallow) *art school* approach, but to characterize the compositions themselves as "academic," i.e., as merely rote genre exercises. All I can say is that I am not convinced by this criticism.

Similarly, you use the adjective "lifeless" to describe their songs, which I find convenient given some of the stylistic attributes of the music (i.e., New Wave as cold, robotic, etc.). Again, though, the description is meant as a criticism of the QUALITY of the music, and unless you are criticizing the New Wave/New Wave Revivalism aesthetic of coldness/roboticism/etc. in general (i.e., Nick Heyward's vocals sucked because they were too LIFELESS), I'm not sure why the criticism is particularly relevant to Lansing-Dreiden.

This is the entirety of your critique in that review apart from an accusation of "grotesque orchestrations," of which you do not cite an example.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

CHRIS, YOU SERIOUSLY READ LIKE YOU'RE INSANE.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 27 May 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
LIVE BAND KILLED IT. GO SEE THEM!

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i heard they were bad live. but I want to see them regardless b/c their "section II" set up sounds both horrifying and intriguing at the same time

kevin barking (arghargh), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

they were radd

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

You wouldn't expect anything less, really.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i just read above comments in thread. that review by chris is so annoyingly hypocritical. he's acting like all the things he's accusing them of being. that said, they are pretentious and kind of dicks in person, but that first album was and is one of my favorites albums. Just have to look beyond who they are as people. i think you should too chris

kevin barking (arghargh), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

the band members i met were super nice!!

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

just saw them live and it wasn't great but it wasn't bad

kevin barking (arghargh), Sunday, 2 July 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
just got this e-mail:


Hey All,

We are doing a show as part of the "Starbucks Salon" series tomorrow at
7pm. The show is free. Here is the info:

L-D Section II - 7pm
Starbucks Salon
76 Greene St.
FREE

Hope you can come!

L-D

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

love this band, hate them live though


what to do

()()()---()()() (internet), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

WHATEVS THAT BASS PLAYER KICK ASS

chaki (chaki), Friday, 8 September 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
WHAT IS THIS CD THEY SPEAK OF????:


Just a quick reminder about our show at Hiro Ballroom tonight...

Also wanted to mention that we'll have copies of our new CD 'D.I. by
D.D.' available at the show.

Hope you all can make it!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ITS A REMIX CD

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't sold when I got promos of some of their first stuff, but the tracks I've been hearing lately are amazing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Incomplete Tiangle out of print now? I can't seem to find it, except used.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not just posting because I am bored. I'm actually interested in buying this, based on what I've heard from it.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I bought Dividing Line and don't like it that much so far, but I think I would like Incomplete Triangle more. This is okay though.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

IT much better than DI

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
I had put Dividing Island aside for a few months, but listening to it again recntly, it's better than I initially gave it credit for. They actually write some pretty decent melodies, for one thing, and there is soemthing fascinating by how familiar some of it sounds, without submitting to being pinned down to this or that possible source (something I think scott commented on very effectively).

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

And what is this:

http://www.lansing-dreiden.com/2006/DIbydd/index.htm

some kind of remix or mashup thing?

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh looks neat

chaki, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

dividing island has moments when it sounds like spoonfed hybrid.

keythkeyth, Thursday, 12 April 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know them (and probably a million other bands that would be relevant to the discussion). At first I thought that was just a description, but then I thought, wait, I'd better check to see if there's a band by that name.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 April 2007 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i still have never heard that remix thing. i need to listen to dividing island again too, cuz i'll bet it sounds different than i remember.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 April 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm. So they sent me a myspace invite kinda out of nowhere, I assume. And in listening the first thing I thought of was the Beta Band -- not a criticism or complaint, I should note -- and I searched this thread and nobody's mentioned them at all as a comparison point! I'm actually pretty surprised.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

In my case, that's because I have never heard the Beta Band. Are they good?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I only know a few LD songs, didn't like them at first but either they got better or they grew on me. The few songs I've got are some of my faves of recent years. I guess I was turned off by some early EP that I got as a DJ promo that sounded like a weird mix of john robie era new order and then typical post-punk/new wave revivalism but somehow not interesting. In any case, I've come around.

And I only know the Beta Band's 3 eps release, but I can't say I see the similarities.

And yeah, Tim, they're pretty good and pretty interesting. Kind of a folky/trip-hoppy thing with psychedelic influences. I know that sounds terrible, but they were good! Half of them have a new band called the Aliens who sounded even more krautrock/cosmic.

dan selzer, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link


And I only know the Beta Band's 3 eps release, but I can't say I see the similarities.


I was thinking more later than that, Hot Shots II stuff.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

As for LD, I don't have anything against what I heard, but it's not making me think, "Right, I need to go back to that" offhand. There's a lot of music out there and not much of it hits my repeat function these days. We'll see.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

honestly, after listening to both albums tonight, they sound even stranger and more out of time than when they came out. I mean, they always existed in their own geodesic dome of a universe, but now that the bad taste of bad 80's pastiche has almost completely left my mouth, I hear both records in , um, the context of no context. i mean, they are just CDs that have been sitting around forever and that I haven't listened to in ages. and they are even further removed from something that they really had nothing to do with at the time. that 80's thing that was mostly dud in my book. the last 80's thing. not the one before that. having said that, i'm looking forward to the solo album by the guitarist from the faint. digi-metal. and signed to relapse! where is colin the mole, anyhow?

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i take it back. i just listen to dude's myspace. the faint dude's myspace. it's horrible.

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

the faint is the worst band

chaki, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

and is relapse just reissuing an old album of his? oh whatever.

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw the faint in philly way back when and the only time they roused me from my stupor was when they played enola gay. they did a nice version.

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

the faint had one ok song (not the one about strippers) but that one album of theirs i have is wretched

electricsound, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just thinking about Lansing-Dreiden. I still love them.

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

they got the synths right. but they had no songs. i was more of a reggie & the full effect fan. as far as emo-identified 80's goofs go. and i even liked reggie's metal songs! dwarf invasion!

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i am wearing a Lansing-Dreiden shirt

chaki, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

sweet

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

ok the new free ep available for free on the site is THE SHIT

taun taun johnson, Thursday, 6 November 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

;)

jaxon, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

LISTENING NOW

scott seward, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for the heads up!

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

of course i can't help but want the song "tri" to keep going for another five minutes.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the head zup.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Ultimately, The Incomplete Triangle is exactly what Lansing-Dreiden claim it is: Art. But I have to tell you, I don't spend a lot of time listening to Art. I listen to Music

(Dying here)

Grabbing new EP now!

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

psyched for this, thanks

cutty, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"I Disappear" is amazing, kind of Studio-ish.

mizzell, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

but not really. What does it sound like? 80s RnB?

mizzell, Friday, 7 November 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Cool, that was pretty good. Looks from the website like their little art collective has been quiet for the last couple years.

funky president (call all destroyer), Friday, 7 November 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm....weird...i think i like this...i all i've heard is this EP...i sort of don't know what to think because to me it sounds not like a three song EP by one band, but a three song mix of three different bands!

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 7 November 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

That's what their albums sound like too, but adjusted for scale (well, especially Incomplete Triangle).

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 7 November 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I Disappear sounds kinda like these tracks (some might even say balearic, shh):

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3rg0y_state-of-gracetouching-the-times_street

jaxon, Friday, 7 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah M@tt if you like that their albums are for you.

funky president (call all destroyer), Friday, 7 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

so do any of the L-D fans here also like Violens? It's two, or maybe more, of those guys, non-anonymous style. More 80s British influences dominate but I have been listening to their EP a lot.

mizzell, Monday, 1 December 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't know about them, but I'm checking out their myspace now. Doesn't interest me as much as Lansing-Dreiden, but then some of their stuff has had to grow on me. I like it a bit, and I hear a little more than just an 80s approach in the melodies and harmonies, so that's a plus, but it's not as hard to place as L-D often is, I think.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

on the whole they are not as intriguing as L-D but they have well constructed songs. This might be my favorite (it's not on the ep)

mizzell, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

violens bores the shat out of me

cutty, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

"disappear from here" is brilliance. need more new stuff from them.

cutty, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I like this EP but I need more. And I think Lansing-Dreiden's albums benefit from the cumulative effect of all tracks (although that doesn't fit in too well with my lack of enthusiasm for the last few tracks on Incomplete Triangle--but even those have grown on me a bit).

_Rockist__Scientist_, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

listening to "laid in stone" now. love this album

kamerad, Saturday, 21 February 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

dividing island sounded great last time i listened to it (about a month ago).

the pelvis of a mammoth (get bent), Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Hello friends of Lansing-Dreiden,

Please come hang out with us this Saturday, Sunday and Monday for our second open studio. We'll have new drawings and paintings as well as limited edition necklaces. Please write back with any questions...

Hope to see u here!

Jorge & Keith

LANSING-DREIDEN OPEN STUDIO

Saturday, October 24th, 2-9PM
Sunday, October 25th, 1-5PM
Monday, October 26th by appt.
107 Suffolk, between Rivington and Delancey, # 517
(enter through double-door on left and go upstairs to 5th floor, no buzzer.

AVAILABLE AT THE STUDIO:

- Small and medium-sized, unframed works,
including a small new series involving color
- Limited edition necklaces
- Framed collages, drawings and paintings
- Out-of-print Lansing-Dreiden CDs and Vinyl
- L-D Section T-Shirts, posters and guitar picks
- Woodblock Prints
- Death Notice II - IV (free)

scott seward, Sunday, 18 October 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

sweet. didn't they only release one single on vinyl?

mizzell, Monday, 19 October 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

if louis doesn't like this band my whole worldview will fall apart

m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

TELL ME MORE

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

the only one i've heard is Tri, which sounds like, man i dunno a way more fucked up muse with a fast metal drummer on one song, and kinda spark shit on another then like scritti polliti soft rock era shit on another. every song sounds like different band kinda

m@tt (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

that sounds fairly promising in a not-quite-mindblowing-but-totally-agreeable way

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

when I am done inducting myself into the land of cLOUDDEAD I shall seek them out

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Are L-D comparable to These New Puritans?

the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

ok listening to the SECOND album (because the first isn't on Spotify) and jeez this is odd

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

and good! like, i can't place it, which is generally always a good thing

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

it SEEMS quite 80's, but couldn't possibly BE 80's, if that makes sense

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that basically sums it up. it's the 80s through one dude's very weird filter

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 April 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

altho my fav part is in the first song where they just turn into the who for a couple minutes

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 April 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the middle-order one-two punch of 'part of the promise' and 'our next breath' is *magnificent*

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

actually the second half of this record is shaping up to be exceptional

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

there is some stuff from the first album on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8QLVadUJs

scott seward, Monday, 12 April 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

both albums are great and worth owning. and, yeah, their sound can be disorienting. like, you know you've heard it, but not quite...

scott seward, Monday, 12 April 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

it's one of the weirdest things i've ever heard - it's not conventionally weird or wacky - it isn't fulsome in its otherness. i just find it unfathomable how these sounds came together like this. in a good way.

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHA look at the Seward post I just found!

as time passes - and that whole post-post-post-80's thing fades from memory - they just sound weirder and weirder to me. in a good way.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:25 (9 months ago) Bookmark

SNAP

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Glass Corridor is excellent! Although less mysterious than the stuff on the second album.

gucci magnet (acoleuthic), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

new violens single. album comes out in october? something like that. new single is kind of a mix of Go West, Kon Kan, and Springhouse. just kidding.

http://rcrdlbl.com/artists/Violens/track/Acid_Reign

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds good, but I like this one even better:

http://itp.nyu.edu/~amc630/SGIN/

Cheetah, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoping for more SGINs.

Cheetah, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw the SGIN, and it opened up my MNID.

Can you keep up? (Cheetah), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

guy from violens is in ITP?

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

LANSING-DREIDEN

The Incomplete Triangle (Expanded Edition) LP
A Sectioned Beam (Expanded Edition) EP
The Dividing Island LP

(US 4/9 and UK 4/22)

Lansing-Dreiden return with three reissues for the first time ever on vinyl and with new unreleased material.

Mexican Summer is excited to reissue the first three records from NYC-based company Lansing-Dreiden on April 9th (UK April 22nd ). Originally self-released, and later digitally and on CD between 2004 and 2006 through Kemado Records, these three records: The Incomplete Triangle LP, A Sectioned Beam EP, The Dividing Island LP - have been re-mastered, expanded and pressed to vinyl for the very first time and include unreleased material, including a sprawling 15-minute track, “Seaside”, which has been added to the EP.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 1 March 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

wonder why indie fans go batshit over stuff like tame impala and the national rather than this. sad, really.

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 1 March 2013 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

“The Incomplete Triangle” was played in our house every day for over a year. It somehow made the war in Iraq more understandable.” – Kurt Heasley / Lilys

are we sure that's a square root sign and not half a swastika (mizzell), Friday, 1 March 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

weird how they were originally on Kemado, but have been shifted to the related Mexican Summer

are we sure that's a square root sign and not half a swastika (mizzell), Friday, 1 March 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

my kids go to bed listening to the 2nd album every night. not my doing either! its weird to hear that album playing from upstairs every night. still sounds great too.

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 01:56 (eleven years ago) link

i am so getting the vinyl. reasonable pricing too!

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 02:09 (eleven years ago) link

it's amazing xpost. also - the (superior imo) second half of the record lulls bedward...then that final track, nobody's sleeping through that, not even r. seward, infant superhero

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 1 March 2013 02:09 (eleven years ago) link

i've heard this soooooooo many times and it never gets old. i could play it a thousand times more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE37efvtYmQ

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link

but yeah we don't play it very loud for them. it gets loud!

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

Ahhhhh... love(d) those L-D records.
I was always under the impression that everybody hated them.

Any of them still making music?

mr.raffles, Friday, 1 March 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

man sometimes old threads pop up on ilx and it's a total mindfuck. i didn't know anyone had ever heard, cared about, liked, discussed, etc., this band. but then i was kinda living in the hinterlands when they were releasing music.

i have both albums and the ep and i like them a lot, though i think i like the idea/concept/aesthetic of L-D even more.

well, this will spur me to go back and relisten for the first time in forever.

alpine static, Friday, 1 March 2013 08:01 (eleven years ago) link

Any of them still making music?

http://violens.net/

dan selzer, Friday, 1 March 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

there are actually TWO good threads for LD. we make fun of Ott on both of them:

Article Response: Lansing-Dreiden - 'The Incomplete Triangle'

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

love this band, but we bought the originals why they gotta be extra tracks reissue cunts?
$?
can't really see anyone making megabucks here.
the re-release is such a wishy washy revisionist nostalgic wallow logic (esp on vinyl) - it's like a wish-fulfilment "history" or something.
like a machu pichu package tour sold as an adventure.
an apple mac sold as you-being-a-creative-type.
how did they drop the ball with violens, anyhow?
that shit sounds awful.

massaman gai, Friday, 1 March 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

i personally agree about bonus tracks, but it seems most people like that kind of thing.
if i buy any of these it would probably just be Dividing Island, which i think i slightly prefer, and it has no bonus tracks

are we sure that's a square root sign and not half a swastika (mizzell), Friday, 1 March 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

i will get them cuz they are truly one of the few groups of the 21st century - non-metal - that i adored. and they will probably look really nice. i was fine having the CDs. though i heard the 2nd album skipping in cyrus's boombox the other night cuz he has played it so much.

i don't really care about bonus tracks for the most part. though i am curious about the long track added to the EP.

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

though they should have quoted people here for the mexican summer page instead of ariel fink and grizzly bore and kurt measley.

scott seward, Friday, 1 March 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

i will get them cuz they are truly one of the few groups of the 21st century - non-metal - that i adored.

Man, you make it sound like the 21st century is over.

Love Lansing-Dreiden, but massaman gai otm.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 1 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I've said it before, but maybe not on this thread: "Our Next Breath" is an especially amazing song. I can't reveal my reasoning, since there isn't any really. Just gut level, ear level, this mix of retro elements has some sort of real ecstatic core. This is one of the songs I would pick to play for those put off by L-D's packaging.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 1 March 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Pajama party at scott's house.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 1 March 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

got my vinyl got my vinyl!!! woo hoo!! playing first album now. got all three things. giving maria the download codes. maria: "this might be the first time i've ever been excited to get download codes."

packaging is normal. nothing fancy. good transfer. nice vinyl. sounds nice. definitely will pull these out when i get the urge to hear L-D. CDs are fine though if you already own the CDs. fanboy that i am i totally would have paid ten bucks extra if all three records had come in a slim box or something. as it is these three set me back like 70 bucks. money i never ever spend online for new vinyl. limited to 500 each but i doubt anyone would have trouble getting copies from the label for a while. how big could they be?

scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

(and i waited and kinda forgot for awhile. just ordered them last week.)

scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

actually i ordered them on sunday as a mothers day present to myself.

scott seward, Friday, 17 May 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

"Eternal Lie" sounds like an Ariel Pink outtake

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Friday, 14 June 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link

The last couple of tracks on this...dying for proper drums

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

New song from Regal Degal:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/15769-unseen/

I think this has a Lansing-Dreiden quality to it. An 80s post-punk take on 60s fuzz rock for the 2010s.

dan selzer, Sunday, 28 July 2013 06:54 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

My humble L-D playlist:

http://open.spotify.com/user/nick.douglas/playlist/3RSmCvMXFELfTD1RjUNvwp

calstars, Monday, 30 December 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Just discovered the song 'Disenchanted'. Wow - did 80s pop really sound like this? I rather suspect this is, in some ways, an improvement. It's like an actualisation of a particularly nostalgic dream. Incredible.

imago, Monday, 24 March 2014 00:46 (ten years ago) link

im more into this album then i was before i like how the last songs all sound like new order

― chaki_burger (chaki), Monday, May 24, 2004 6:17 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right - I don't really like New Order (let's not have a tedious calling-out session, just accept it, move on) but these songs are amazing. I don't know what the extra ingredient is - probably something ethereal in the melodic construction - really massy, expansive, ornate...

imago, Monday, 24 March 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

fwiw Disenchanted was somehow bettered by Desert Lights, which is a creation wrought from purest magic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybPw-gG1M1s

imago, Monday, 24 March 2014 01:11 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

L-D dude Jorge Elbrecht's new band is called Coral Cross, and he describes their music as choral thrash. The single "The Coldest Steel Across Your Face Slides" def has some metal in it, still not as good as L-D.

mizzell, Thursday, 17 July 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

holy shit I had L-D in my head as I opened SNA just now

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Thursday, 17 July 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link

The new one goes to an interesting place in the middle that I wish was the whole song. Metal seems an odd choice for him.

calstars, Thursday, 17 July 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

yeah, seriously, the last four tracks of The Incomplete Triangle achieve electropop perfection in a way I can't even begin to describe. they'd make one of the greatest EPs ever made

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

Jorge has teased some new L-D in the future on his twitter

calstars, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link

they'd make one of the greatest EPs ever made

― i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:42 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh shit they DID release it as an EP, except without 'Disenchanted' (p much their best song full stop) and with something called The First Response, which I'm listening to now. the tricksy bastards

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah Disenchanted is much, much better than this. why, L-D, why? it doesn't even matter

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Disenchanted is fast becoming one of my favourite songs of the last 10 years, it's a miracle imo

imago, Monday, 1 September 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

it's like 80s pop, but 'taken to new levels', lol

imago, Monday, 1 September 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

best thing is, it actually came out 11 years ago, whoops

imago, Monday, 1 September 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

Love this one :

https://soundcloud.com/stereogum/jorge-elbrecht-feat-ariel-pink

calstars, Monday, 1 September 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Jorge Elbrecht produced and sounds it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxiRnZ6yvic#t=136

(I just learned his name, actually.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 23 May 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

There's just enough of a bite from "Are Friends Electric?" in this to make me smile a lot when I hear it without ripping it off wholesale.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 23 May 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

New Tamaryn album sounds kind of like mellow L-D with female vocals.

calstars, Saturday, 29 August 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Coral Cross increasingly hitting an L-D spot (for me anyway):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-M-xzOXXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H-M-xzOXXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-B2wHBP8MY

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-B2wHBP8MY

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link

Oh damn. I am a failure at cut and paste as well as everything else.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvMPX4gik1U

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 October 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

So the video is really just taken from the Garbage Pail Kids movie (I guess?). I had no idea. Not something I grew up with.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

it's a fine film.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 October 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

listening to the vinyl reissues. sound so cool. i love some of the fucked up production but there IS a part of me that wonders what it would have sounded like if they had had crazy money to make the incomplete triangle. the songs are so good. would have loved multiple freestyle mixes and edits of I.C.U.

scott seward, Monday, 15 February 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link

Agreed. Jorge is the man. From his Insta account, I think he just started work on the next No Joy album.

calstars, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 02:07 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

why didn't anyone tell me about 'Seaside'!? it's easily their best song and it's criminal that it was only ever released as a bonus track on the Sectioned Beam reissue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUelGLbAT3s

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Friday, 15 April 2016 03:41 (eight years ago) link

Criminal but somehow fitting.

Have never heard this before but it sounds great so far.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 15 April 2016 04:37 (eight years ago) link

Maybe a little too much like Lansing-Dreiden doing a Lansing-Dreiden imitation, though that description sounds like something appealing as well.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 15 April 2016 04:49 (eight years ago) link

i never had the sectioned beam cd so when i got the vinyl i probably didn't know it was an added track. otherwise i would have told you.

scott seward, Friday, 15 April 2016 12:37 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

I worry about how many drugs Jorge Elbrecht is doing (but maybe that's all wrong).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkp0S1sqAH0

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 2 July 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

That dude used to be a manager at the Oyster Bar

calstars, Saturday, 2 July 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

That Ott review of this record is still infuriating. I love this album.

yesca, Sunday, 3 July 2016 01:18 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Jorge Elbrecht has a new album. It's very LD!

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

cool!

imago, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

bumping cuz everyone should listen to this

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

ooh thanks for the tip

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

His trio of songs with Ariel pink a couple years ago are my favorite things of his

calstars, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

OK let's do this

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link

Segue between first two tracks was so smooth I didn't notice it

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link

Is this...prog?

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 10:57 (six years ago) link

i like this one from last year...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJuHTfndtx0

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link

this could almost be an L-D track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNue_9c0ao

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:16 (six years ago) link

Those are bonus tracks on the Spotify version I think!

This album is quite something except for a lull 2/3 of the way through

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

yeah, i would totally buy this cd. if there is a cd to buy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFZJuzcc23Q

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:21 (six years ago) link

some of the vocals can do that meandering thing that is less than memorable. but that's not a deal-breaker for me.

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

vinyl is already sold out. oh well.

https://jorgeelbrecht.bandcamp.com/album/here-lies

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

i like the section 25 female vox on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ulu2Iw28Es

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link

can't believe i started this thread 14 years ago.

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link

First two tracks, Guillotine and Rainbow Skies are my favourite so far

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

L-D always struck me as a really good way to plunder the 80s - by making it uncanny and intense. There's so much dull 80s plundering at the moment so it's nice Jorge has come back

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

none of the other 80s-apers had that kind of production that L-D had. it made their sound more mythical somehow. it was kinda fucked up sounding. half digital and half echo chamber.

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

yeah exactly. so uncanny. this album adds to it by subtly changing the songs as they progress. really interesting

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

'mythical' is a really good way to put it

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link

omg That Will Slowly Unwind is amazing, why isn't it on the album proper

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link

Oh I've worked out why I don't like Words Never Fail To Fail! It's a dead-on Blue Nile impression! I just listened to it while walking through London in the rain and my heart stirred not a whit. You'll all love it though. As a bonus, the next track is a fairly decent impression of Love Song by The Cure. Album's amazing apart from that

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

I guess WNFTF has some nice XTC harmonies in amongst the sheer Paul Buchanan-ness of it all, at least

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

i sent him a FB friend request. i want to ask him about the possibility of a CD release. with a bonus disc. i'm not a big online listener. i wonder how many records he pressed? probably not a lot.

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

i wonder if i would dig the Violens stuff more now. i'll bet i would. i just listened to this one and it reminded me of cass mccombs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U90FeqsxnR0

scott seward, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

I quite like WNFTF now ffs

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

finally listening now.

I've been feeling like there's something in vocal melodies and harmonies that I think Django Django do similarly, sort of Zombies-esque

dan selzer, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

He’s great with collaborators, less so when he tackles everything himself

calstars, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

Yes! I thought Zombies at one point too!

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

I think during Flesh To Ash

imago, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

I can't get over the segue between the first two tracks on this

imago, Sunday, 11 March 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link

the Zombies one is Undiscerning Masses btw

imago, Sunday, 11 March 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

my favorite l-d bit is still how the first track on the dividing island turns into a who song halfway through for no reason

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

Guitar heroics on “eternal lie” ftw

zalstarz (calstars), Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

Sent Elbrecht a note telling him how much I like the new album and asking about a repress. He replied that there’s no plan right now beyond the initial 100 copies. :/

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

thanks to imago for leading me down the lansing-dreiden rabbithole

elbrecht lp repressed fyi https://jorgeelbrecht.bandcamp.com/album/here-lies

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 22 April 2019 02:14 (five years ago) link

haha sweet! hoped that namedrop would lead to someone checking them out. i just listened again to The Incomplete Triangle - what an album it is, just keeps getting better and better (both in terms of its tracklist and its enduring qualities)

imago, Monday, 22 April 2019 07:47 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Is this group more niche than I thought? I just got a copy of The Dividing Island vinyl reissue from six years ago #384/500. I can't fathom a pressing that limited not selling out before 2019.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

yeah they are quite obscure. criminally unknown

boobie, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

i saw jorge elbrecht as support for kurt vile in june in berlin. and it was terrible. new wavish bombast, the voice totally distorted and hardly understandable, just crap. actually it took me about an hour to find out that it was him. and i love the "incomplete triangle" but live it does not seemm to work at all.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

https://open.spotify.com/track/2Uj68LXGj9lu4RCAX741Ch
Down in flames sounds like a sectioned bean b side

calstars, Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

I just picked up The Dividing Island on CD. I'm a fan of the Incomplete Triangle so I'm pleased to get this.

I'd never searched this band on ILM before. I must check the Jorge Elbrecht stuff mentioned above.

Duke, Saturday, 25 January 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlHAVzR41Bk

Best use of “pizazz” In a pop song?

calstars, Sunday, 30 May 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

i had forgotten how good this is. been listening on repeat. some of the solo stuff is pretty great too; the way it veers from byrds to severed heads and has this rotating cast of ilm vetted assists - drab majesty, tamaryn, sky ferreira - sorta becoming obsessed tbh. would buy some LD physical ephemera but that seems impossible now

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

elbrecht is incredibly talented. love the new presentable corpse record

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 22:10 (two years ago) link

Yeah. The “run and hide” / “fading memory” one two punch is gutting me rn.

And “words never fail to fail” from the debut is the best julee cruise/blue Nile crossover I didn’t know I absolutely needed

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link


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