http://www.djfriendly.co.uk/more_arthur.php?PHPSESSID=b85999859e6a03b077fbba7754af8ed8
BTW. I just got a copy of "24 24 Music" by Dinosaur l and I think that this should be at the forefront of the Arthur Russell releases just coming out. I mean - it absolutely nails ,/em> the whole NY disco/No Wave thing infinitely better than, say, Liquid Liquid. It's a fantastic record. Is anyone reissuing this?!
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:36 (twenty years ago) link
― mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:19 (twenty years ago) link
― adam... (nordicskilla), Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link
he also appears on a couple of peter zummo albums ('song iv' by russell and zummo is one of my fave things ever), and on a jill kroesen album (which i love but it's hard to hear arthur).
― stirmonster, Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― bulbs (bulbs), Sunday, 21 November 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link
The Peter Zummo record I have, Zummo with an X, is a must for Russell fans, I don't think he get's credit as composer, but with him playing cello and singing, it's pretty damn Arthur Russell!
finally got the World of Echo reissue today, haven't watched the DVD yet, but it's a beautiful package.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― stirmonster, Monday, 22 November 2004 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Monday, 22 November 2004 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link
there is no ONE song, he performed in too many different styles.
I'd say two of the tracks that appear on Disco Not Disco, the 6 min edit of Kiss Me Again and Tell You Today.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link
It's almost unbelivable that 24/24 isn't readily available on CD. It shows that there is still a big gulf between rock reissues and those of other genres, esp. dance stuff, where it could be said that reissues are even more crucial bcz a lot of important/excellent stuff never came out on LPs in the first place.
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Gee, Dan. You still owe me a trade for that Tower Of Meaning CD from a while back! *hint*
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
am i the only one that has (has heard) Instrumentals? it's trés boring
― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Friday, 10 June 2005 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I think one of the pieces on instrumentals is incredibly beautiful. The rest of it isn't nearly as interesting. You know the one, if you've heard it.
There's absolutely a few cool cuts on 24-24 that didn't make it to World of, and remember that the versions of World Of are the remixes, right? The Francois K version of Go Bang vs. the 24-24 version. I have to check that these are different. I recall the album versions being looser. But there's 1 song that totally ROCKS. I'll computerize and post it sometime soon.
Don't forget to aim yr slsk or actual shopping tools at the Loft box-set for it's original version of Is It All Over My Face, recorded as a 13 min hippie disco jam.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SD7B2S78KM280LKKQATNSBQ22
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link
(so did 24-24 ever get a commercial release or what?)
― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
wow this is great!
i'ven never heard arthur russell before....is it all this cool? sweet....
― Doesn't M@tt He1geson Deserve A Cool, Funny Login Name? (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
i ain't scurred of a lil' disco!
― Doesn't M@tt He1geson Deserve A Cool, Funny Login Name? (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gerard (Gerard), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― LRJP! (LRJP!), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I hope this works, Due to the beatuy of the track posted above i felt inspired. Here is Felix. Tiger Stripes, on sleeping bag records. One truly odd dance song.
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― drewo (drewo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I love it all, really, and it's one of the things that amazes me--he could be considered a genius in numerous (seemingly wholly) disparate scenes/genres. Everything he did seems to have been gold--he even makes the otherwise mediocre rock/pop of the Necessaries shimmer when his keys/voice touch in.
― I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
(xpost) Susan, what would you could consider his "straight in disco stuff"?
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, the version of Go Bang most people know is the Francois K mix, which is a bit more sane then the original version of 24-24 Music.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 August 2005 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Friday, 19 August 2005 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Peter Zummo can be read about here:
http://www.scaruffi.com/avant/zummo.html
he was a downtown guy hanging out with a bunch of the minimalist types. Interesting to see that Russell appears on his Experimenting with Household Chemicals LP as well, you gonna post that one as well, stirmonster?
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 August 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Friday, 19 August 2005 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― spruce bruce (haitch), Friday, 19 August 2005 04:09 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/release/397676
― gnippiks, Friday, 19 August 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacobs (LolVStein), Friday, 19 August 2005 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Friday, 19 August 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 19 August 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link
dan, i've only got 'experimenting with household chemicals' on cd which means i have no idea where it is. must have a look for it. talking of cds, your cd just arrived in the post! can't wait to check it out.
here's one more. it's arthur performing on peter gordon's 1986, 'innocent' lp.
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23AQAHOZ6SXFK07JU6VEBFE49I
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 19 August 2005 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.frogpeak.org/fpartists/fpzummo.html
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 19 August 2005 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― b8a, Friday, 19 August 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link
It's HARD!
I can't remember where I saw the boot, maybe flexx.be? Henry Flynt? That's crazy, didn't know that.
I like the Talking Heads and Russell fans should check out I Zimbra and David Byrne's vocal appearance on Robert Fripp's disco song Under Heavy Manners.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 August 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Friday, 19 August 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Wow, thanks for "That Hat" Stirmonster! Another blast from my past (*sigh* - my in-storage vinyl collection awaits a larger NYC apartment for accomodation). I don't know if Peter Gordon/Love of Life Orchestra has previously been discussed in another thread, but folks who like AR and the Downtown scene would probably dig LOLO. And (drummer) David Van Tiegham's recordings from that time as well.
― drewo (drewo), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Does Black Dice sound like Arthu Russell?
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 August 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
"to me it sounds like a downtown-y (i.e. raw and angular a la Arto Lindsay, et.al) style of disco rhythm guitar playing. Am I stating the obvious?" - i was kinda embarrassed to ask b/c i figured this might be the case, but since i don't know much about the sound at that time...well...i'll stop wondering about it now.
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― b8a, Friday, 19 August 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Friday, 19 August 2005 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
i tend to like the voice unilaterally.
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I think I'm going to type out that big Melody Maker aricle/interview from '87 and post it here, unless someone wants to host it as a text file. Was just re-reading it and it's pretty fascinating. I'm sure all the AR fans here will enjoy it.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
the seven inch version of "Pop Your Funk" that Toop described as "one of the craziest 45s ever released."
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KX9677I8XUS2208RH5AL7648G
― Beta (abeta), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
No, I find it too fey.
I was especially bummed when I found out how pervy he was, but only for the disparity between the voice and the sex drive.
― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Hmmm, you're right, but singing like a tortured poet and living like a dog in heat seem like polar opposites in sentimentality to me.
― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Show me what the girl does to the boyIf you can get around to it.Show me what the girl does.
Show me what the girl does to the boyIf you can get around to it.
Show me what d-do you most enjoyIf you can get around to it.
Learnin' more about you...I hope it's never ever finished!What it's like when I amYour new toy,If you can get around to it.
I get excited.You get excited.Why should you fight it?
Sex with you—Bein' right next you—Won't do it.Bein' right next to you—The two of us—Won't do it.Bein' so kind to me.
― willem (willem), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
what song is this?
― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 19 August 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks to everyone who uploaded tracks - the Russell discography is immensee ...
― Brakhage, Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link
credited to nicky siano, produced by killer whale. i never dloaded the tiger stripes link above but on my 12 i think it turns into this halfwat through.
is that arthur singing bad lil kitten?
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 20 August 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Confounded, August 19th, 2005
Polar opposites?? More like mutually reinforcing characteristics!
― LRJP! (LRJP!), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― b8a, Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 20 August 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Sunday, 21 August 2005 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZEPZVUO4B0VJ0TM2RV74MEMYI
hope that works
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 21 August 2005 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 21 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 21 August 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 21 August 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Springfield is the title of a long lost Arthur Russell Electro/Club track that has remained unheard until now, and it’s an absolutely mind boggling, classic dance track!!! Arthur recorded close to four hours of music with the intention of having someone complete and remix the composition. As all of Arthur’s dance music was done in collaboration, we were committed to finding the best. We are excited to announce that our friends the DFA will be handling the chores of mixing and editing the track for release also in October.
*head explodes*
― haitch (haitch), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Walter Gibbons mix] 10:12Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.1] 6:54Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.2] 3:23Let's Go Swimming [Walter Gibbons Coastal dub] 7:50Let's Go Swimming [Gulf Stream dub] 5:18Let's Go Swimming [Puppy Surf mix] 5:21Wax the Van [Kenny's club version] 5:30Wax the Van [Cherry's Club] 5:38Wax the Van [radio edit] 4:00Wax the Van [Jon's dub] 7:12Go Bang! 5:37Is it All Over My Face? [Larry Levan mix] 6:56
can't find out much from google; i was wondering if anyone here knows if this saw a proper release, or if it's just someone's homemade digitization of the twelve-inches. any help is much appreciated.
― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IMCKDJ17J8JJ1B2A5ZHECYV0Q
― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Craig Dunsmuir, Monday, 22 August 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link
xp
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
walter...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00001ZTY0/103-6549972-3840612?v=glance
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah dan. how dumb am i? will look out for the revived rsw thread.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/release/104215
xxp again
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
the vinyls are boxed.
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Walter Gibbons mix] 10:12= Indian Ocean: School Bell/Treehouse from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)http://www.discogs.com/release/95379
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.1] 6:54= Indian Ocean: Treehouse/School Bell from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)http://www.discogs.com/release/95379
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.2] 3:23= Indian Ocean: Treehouse/School Bell (Short Version) from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (12 BRW 57 DJ)http://www.discogs.com/release/435779
Let's Go Swimming [Walter Gibbons Coastal dub] 7:50Let's Go Swimming [Gulf Stream dub] 5:18Let's Go Swimming [Puppy Surf mix] 5:21 (actually Puppy Surf Dub)= Arthur Russell: Let's Go Swimming 12"http://www.discogs.com/release/372073
Wax the Van [Kenny's club version] 5:30Wax the Van [Cherry's Club] 5:38Wax the Van [radio edit] 4:00Wax the Van [Jon's dub] 7:12= Lola: Wax the Van 12"http://www.discogs.com/release/98656
not sure about these next two:
Go Bang! 5:37= Dinosaur L: Go Bang (Dinosaur L Bangs Again) from Go Bang 12"http://www.discogs.com/release/335007
Is it All Over My Face? [Larry Levan mix] 6:56Loose Joints: Is It All Over My Face (Female Vocal/Larry Levan Mix) from Is It All Over My Face 12"http://www.discogs.com/release/231272
Now if I could just figure out where my 9:28 version of Let's Go Swimming comes from ...
― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link
I wasn't aware it was you! Killer tracklist. I ordered it last week, it should arrive soon...
― willem (willem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― jon dale, Friday, 26 August 2005 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steven Knutson, Saturday, 27 August 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― steven Knutson, Saturday, 27 August 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 28 August 2005 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― some best friend, Thursday, 13 October 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.optimo.co.uk/rustle.jpg
http://www.optimo.co.uk/swimming.jpg
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem (willem), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― etc, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link
"I had hoped to release two new Arthur Russell titles this year, but they have been pushed over into 2006. In January Audika will release FIRST THOUGHT BEST THOUGHT, a 2 CD compilation of Arthur's orchestral and instrumental music, with over 50 minutes of previously unreleased music.
Our friends the DFA are putting the finishing touches on SPRINGFIELD, which is another lost gem from Arthur's vast archive. If you haven't noticed already, when you open the Audika site you'll hear a very brief snippet of what's to come. Look for the commercial release sometime in March.
Steve"
― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Absolutely cannot wait.
― Corcoran (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― rajeev (rajeev), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― turboalbino (haitch), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― telephone thing, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=20996http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=20997
― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem -- (willem), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 17 March 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
hope to see "Terrace of Unintelligibility" someday. Have there been any screenings at some sort've Moving Image Centre/&c in NY or London or &c?
― etc, Saturday, 18 March 2006 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
but completely different from anything else of his I'd heard, and very impressive.
― bangelo (bangelo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― imbidimts, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steven Knutson, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Any chance there are unreleased Arthur-driven Necessaries tracks? Also, any likelihood of the Zummo record getting reissued in full by you or any compatriot?
― I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― C.D., Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link
i think i saw a sealed copy at Downtown Music Gallery for $30 or $35.
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link
After Springfield is out I'll jump into completing a new AR compilition of "songs" that tentatively included the John Hammond Sr. tracks + Flying Hearts sings + folk/country tunes. But keep in mind they don't sound like folk and country tunes. It's Arthur music. It will take me awhile so don't expect a release on this stuff for at least a year. Did you know that Arthur was obsessed with Randy Travis? Really weird and beautiful songs.
― steven Knutson, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― IM, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― boychild, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jack Cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I do have to take exception to the comment "endless outtakes". With the exception of the four bonus tracks on World Of Echo, and "Hop On Down" on Calling Out Of Context, everything I've released so far has been finished and completed masters. It's important to remember that for the most part, Arthur was ignored throughout his carrier. If he was noticed at all it was as an eccentric at best. Most of the tracks on COOC are from an album that was entitled CORN that Sleeping Bag rejected. The remaining tracks were for a Blanco Negro album that Arthur did not deliver as he had become ill. The unreleased stuff off of First Thought was in a similar situation in that no one would put them out commercially.
That being said I (and Tom Lee) are taking the big leap in releasing Springfield as it was never finished. Arthur wanted to give the 4 + hours of tracking to either 808 State or William Orbit to finish. But Arthur did not have the contacts or wherewithall to make that happen. Tom baggered me to listen to them, and I was blown away. So I gave it to the DFA, and the results are beautiful. Soon come.
― Steve Knutson, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link
but still, why no 24-24?
― boychild, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
if those recordings are from the same sessions that spawned the two-minute excerpt on 24-24, i would *love* to hear them. hope they see light at some point. i finally got to hear 24-24 a few weeks ago, and it was all great, really great, but that jam killed me. i wish it was longer!
that's funny that "hop on down" is an outtake, that's actually one of my favorite tracks on COOC.
BTW steve, i love your 'first thought' liner notes ... the way you talk about AR's music being evocative of geography is right on. i feel the same about his other stuff that's been reissued, just w/ respect to NYC instead of iowa. it's partly what drew me to his music initially.
― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
who owns the 24-24 rights currently? did someone buy out the Sleeping Bag catalog?
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― sam2, Monday, 17 April 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 17 April 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Scuffing (Ian Scuffing), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Scuffing (Ian Scuffing), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Stylus review.
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Scuffing (Ian Scuffing), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link
don't answer this if it puts you in a bad position, but what happened with the 24-24 rights? I came across that bootleg you mentioned upthread a few years ago, I thought it was an original and nearly wet my pants.
btw, first thought is another masterful job.
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― TRG (TRG), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 24 April 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I note that the Springfield project is listed in the 'more by Arthur' bit in the liner notes … can't wait for that.
― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link
I just got the 3xLP in the mail but there were no liner notes and that doesn't seem right for a Soul Jazz release...
― gnippiks, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
WHAT?!
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― mentalismé (sanskrit), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Classic
― hector (hector), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link
I like it!
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 September 2006 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Friday, 8 September 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 8 September 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Soul Jazz shop in London will have copies the week after next, and of course on-line via almost everybody.
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Friday, 8 September 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― theghostrobot (theghostrobot), Saturday, 9 September 2006 06:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 9 September 2006 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link
It's cool how the two main "Springfield" mixes sort of mirror each other too, in terms of that knotty cello (and voice?) and trombone harmony showing up late in the Arthur mix, and then popping up isolated right off the top of the DFA one (right after the drum-machine intro EQ'd all "Soon"-like). I like how the lyrics on the Arthur mix are the sexy ones, vs. the more toned-down stoic ones about riding a rollercoaster and being Superman who's never been kissed on the DFA one.
Also, hearing Arthur announce the end of the reel halfway through the first mix, combined with the sounds going on around that moment, is quite the psychedelic surprise; I love all those off-mic comments that lurk in the background in his music ("Hit it on the appropriate line!" "Punch in!" "[phone rings]"). (Yes, I am completely smitten.)
― Craig Dunsmuir (Craig D.), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Whenever anyone asks me about an underrated or underappreciated artist of the past, without pause I say Arthur Russell.
― Randall Weeber (yoyoweb), Saturday, 16 September 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 16 September 2006 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Richard Bliss (mazdachik), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Richard Bliss (mazdachik), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Richard Bliss (mazdachik), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link
that's absolutely supergreat news, Steve. You know we all love what you are doing!!!!
― minerva estassi (minerva estassi), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.arthurrussellmovie.com/
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Thursday, 5 October 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Knutson (steven Knutson), Saturday, 7 October 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 7 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
i bought springfield the day it came out, and i honestly haven't listened to much else since. i love it. hearing that 24-24 music might become available makes me really happy. shit, the movie too. if you build it, they will come.
― theghostrobot (theghostrobot), Sunday, 8 October 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.thekitchen.org/k04_store.html
?
― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Sunday, 8 October 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.newworldrecords.org/album.cgi?rm=view&album_id=17156
― Craig Dunsmuir (Craig D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link
Just happened to hear of that reissue by running a semi-regular Google search for it! So fucking cool.
"Song IV" from 'Zummo with an X' is fucking amazing, yet another astonishing side of Russell--a real fusion of a lot of his styles. I ordered the full album, which I've never heard--not sure if Arthur's on any other tracks, but it looks compelling regardless.
― I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― the gangsta Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (H2-H4), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― 808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Monday, 20 November 2006 07:13 (seventeen years ago) link
I'll be ordering that up as well. I would just like to say that I think the re-issue job West End has been doing on their stuff is great, and they are some of the friendliest folks to deal with. They already re-issued 'Is It All Over My Face' as well.
― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 26 January 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/newsounds/episodes/2006/08/24
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link
Arthur being used for a mobile phone advertisment? Crazy! But hey, if it subsidises Audika and allows Mr. Knutson to put out more of Arthur's music, then better him than Moby.
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
i disagree, the A side is an awful tangle of enervating post-Glass experiments, while the B side is ok for the breathy Russell and tabla workout, but it doesn't amount to much. i worked my ass off trying to find this record and it hit my sell pile pretty quickly.
― the kwisatz bacharach (sanskrit), Saturday, 27 January 2007 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 27 January 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 27 January 2007 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 27 January 2007 10:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Lick The Strobelight Lollipops (Bimble...), Saturday, 27 January 2007 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― 808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 28 January 2007 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Roly Poly (Greens And Mustard), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― admrl, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff W, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link
― cutty, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
― jed_, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link
― jed_, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― cutty, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5tM1coZr4k
Does anyone know which song it is Arthur's playing at about 0:35?
― peter james, Saturday, 26 May 2007 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Wax the Van(Dub) is great! Thanks Jeff.
― leavethecapital, Saturday, 26 May 2007 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link
24-24 Music has just been reissued on CD:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000T875EW/ref=wl_itt_dp/105-6389914-9065208?ie=UTF8&coliid=IZDT4ILQ8SVIX&colid=18R3WS4QMPN35
― Telephone thing, Saturday, 18 August 2007 06:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i just came here to ask if that was legit or a boot. that 'thank you arthur' edit is a nice bonus.
― haitch, Friday, 14 September 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link
"Tigerstripes" is sooooooo good.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 14 September 2007 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link
100% legit, put out by the people who currently own the rights to the Sleeping Bag catalog.
― Telephone thing, Friday, 14 September 2007 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link
wowza
― sleeve, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
who did that "thank you arthur" edit? AR himself?
― jed_, Friday, 14 September 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
i've just downloaded "world of echo" and am listening in full for the first time. oh, new obsession. where have you been all my life. beautiful.
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Thursday, 20 March 2008 03:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh wow. I should pull out that vinyl right now.
― Bimble, Thursday, 20 March 2008 03:46 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, there really isn't anything else like that. a magical world unto itself.
― sleeve, Thursday, 20 March 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I found it in my stacks! Tone Bone Kone! Man, this takes me back.
― Bimble, Thursday, 20 March 2008 03:49 (sixteen years ago) link
See I've never really been able to understand people who heard something else as their first exposure to him than this album.
― Bimble, Thursday, 20 March 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay "I Take This Time" for the win, but "Place I Know/Kid Like You" in hot pursuit.
― Bimble, Thursday, 20 March 2008 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link
What instantly hooked me on Russell was the early Audika website playing the first 15 seconds or so of "Tone Bone Kone," the "I'm so happy I met you and came to find you this evening" part.
― Telephone thing, Thursday, 20 March 2008 06:59 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, "place i know/kid like you" and "our last night together" are immediate favorites. he's someone i've meant to investigate for years now but just haven't for whatever reason. he circulates around so many of my interests (ginsberg, matmos, electronic music in general, gay culture) that it's kind of crazy that i am just now really hearing him. what a fascinating guy. i really want to see that documentary that's coming out.
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't believe World of Echo is on iTunes with bonus tracks.
I'm playing the side of the LP that starts with "Treehouse" now which is weird for me because I always kindof ignored this side because I was so overly familiar and enamored with the songs on the other side! It all sounds heavily amazing now, though. But (and I hate to admit this...) whatever that CD that came out just after he died...I didn't like that one nearly as much. It was a whole different thing. "Another Thought" wasn't it? Early 90's. It was alright, but not nearly as amazing as World of Echo was. That was a good song for the title track, though "Another Thought".
But I was completely amazed to learn later that he'd actually taken a couple stabs at dance music earlier on. That was just weird. Certainly he was a gifted individual in the creative sense. Also I could have sworn I bought some EP of his of earlier on that was very ambient. Holy hell, I just remembered this. Black sleeve. Red letters. Am I wrong? Wow, I had totally forgotten that.
― Bimble, Friday, 21 March 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link
You're thinking of the Instrumentals LP on Crepuscule, which is compiled with tons more stuff on First Thought Best Thought.
I think there was a time where I had Another Thought and World of Echo and loved them and also had Is It All Over My Face and Go Bang! and loved them but didn't put it all together till much later.
― dan selzer, Friday, 21 March 2008 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes! It was Crepuscule! Thanks Dan!
― Bimble, Friday, 21 March 2008 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's a stupid question: can anybody recommend stuff (by Russell or anyone else) that sounds like "Kiss Me Again"?
― 31g, Friday, 21 March 2008 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link
"another thought" was my introduction to arthur and is probably the album i've listened to the most in the last decade or so. it's like a best friend to me as it helped me through a really hard time in my life. i wouldn't quite go as far as to say it saved my life but it came pretty close.
― stirmonster, Friday, 21 March 2008 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost
it's not a psyche-disco tour-de-force like "Kiss Me Again" by any stretch of the imagination, but the first thing that jumps to mind is Sylvester's "Over and Over". I always loved how "Kiss Me Again" seemed to be at least partially striving to sound like a bunch of musicians just throwing down in a room (although of course it's FAR more intricately arranged than that - I re-ripped it to post on my blog a few weeks ago and the multitracking on the flipside in particular is magnificently well-done), and "Over and Over" just hits that same spot.
― jamescobo, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Bimble, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:51 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
??? he had huge underground dance tracks before that
― deej, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Huge for people in the vicinity of New York, perhaps...
― Bimble, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
and chicago
― deej, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
jamescobo I've heard Over and Over, but thanks.
― 31g, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
"Don't Leave Me This Way"
― sexyDancer, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
what don't you understand and when did you first hear that record?
― jaime, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
see, i've never been able to understand that sentence.
― jed_, Friday, 21 March 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I just meant it's hard for me to understand what it would have been like to have heard something else by him first. I first heard the record when it came out in '86. It immediately set me up as to what to expect from other releases of his and those expectations were completely dashed when I heard other things by him that didn't sound much like it at all. Then again I suppose the same thing could have happened to someone else who came at him from a completely different angle!
DJ's or patrons of clubs in New York or Chicago might have known his earlier material but it hardly made him a household name nationally and I certainly wasn't anywhere near those places at the time.
― Bimble, Friday, 21 March 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
― haitch, Saturday, 22 March 2008 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i would lay money down that many more people know, say, 'is it all over my face' than anything off world of echo.
― haitch, Saturday, 22 March 2008 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link
thanks sexydancer
― 31g, Saturday, 22 March 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I feel like i know every little echo bounce on Soon to be innocent fun
― I know, right?, Saturday, 22 March 2008 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link
so perfect
if someone could upload a lossless version of the Sire 12" long take on Kiss Me Again, I'd be the happiest boy around. this is easily my favorite track by him, I play the MP3 all the time, but it doesn't seem like there's much chance of it being reissued, Steve K told me he's not interested in licensing anything.
― jon abbey, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I just want to thank Emily for resurrecting this thread and making me dust off this old gem. There it was in the graveyard of my vinyl, in a milk crate I never give any consideration to. I think even if I had flipped through it I would have just thought "oh that's the Arthur Russell record" without playing it. But World of Echo is just what I needed back in my life. And the bonus tracks! Wow!
I think what stands out most about this album for me is it doesn't seem like it's really as old as it is. It seems very modern and it's hard for me to believe I can trace it as far back as my teenage years. Another thing that stands out is just that there is nothing in the entire world that sounds like this record. Nothing. Other than saying it probably should have appeared on the 4AD label, you can't really narrow it down any further than that.
― Bimble, Sunday, 23 March 2008 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey jon abbey, if you still need it, I can rip a .wav of it tonight and post it.
― matt2, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I finally found the Dinosaur L full length and it is so awesome...Ive never heard world of echo. Might have to pick it up after reading some of these comments...
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm glad to have finally listened to him, bimble. it's been nice to come home from some rather stressful situations in work and interpersonal relations and listen to this.
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hey jon abbey, if you still need it, I can rip a .wav of it tonight and post it."
this would make me so exceedingly happy, you have no idea. thanks in advance!
― jon abbey, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Sorry Jon, didn't get the message last night. Will do tonight.
― matt2, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Apologies again for only giving you half of my lovely red vinyl Sire promo 12" (http://www.discogs.com/release/95382). Getting my three-year-old to bed took way more of my evening than anticipated, so I only had time to rip the A side. It sounded a bit muffled coming out of my computer speakers as I was ripping it too, so let me know if the sound quality isn't great and I can give it another go when I rip the B side tomorrow. Here's the whopping 129 MB .wav file of the A side:
http://www.divshare.com/download/4111056-606
― matt2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link
The new Wire has a review of the film in it - anyone else seen it?
― Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 27 March 2008 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link
thanks a lot, Matt! DLing now, I'll report back tomorrow...
― jon abbey, Thursday, 27 March 2008 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link
hmm, somehow the 192 MP3 I got off Oink a while back sounds decidedly better, or maybe I'm just used to it? anyway, no need to continue on this for me, but the effort is much appreciated, thanks again!!!
― jon abbey, Thursday, 27 March 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah I listened to this today at work and it doesn't sound that great. I have a pretty basic setup for ripping my vinyl. I also didn't do any amplification or anything cause I didn't want to distort any of the sound, so that may be why it's kinda hard to hear. I thought it sounded pretty okay if I really turned the volume up, but that's annoying. Sorry it didn't turn out better. Try these rips at 320, they may be better:
http://www.greenpeaness.org/2008/03/justice-vampire-weekend-leona-lewis-lil.html
― matt2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link
that's me! and yes, they came out a billion times better when I re-ripped them for that post; the b-side in particular benefits outrageously. you can hear studio patter and traces of other takes and everything!
― jamescobo, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, may cheapo turntable run through some Radio Shack cables and recorded using Audacity's "Records What U Hear" feature = not so great results. Maybe I need to fidget with the turntable pre-amp/computer amplification stuff. One day.
― matt2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
good call on the Zombies unreleased album, thats some of the best stuff ever.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
that whole record's a stunner back to front, but since I was only awakened to it a few weeks or so ago I'm still kinda stuck on I'll Call You Mine (a fine place to be stuck).
― jamescobo, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
http://acuterecords.com/042508.jpg
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link
did anyone get to the instrumentals recitals after the ny film screenings? i'd like to see them performed as much as anything.
― schlump, Sunday, 8 June 2008 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I missed this playing in Portland and it makes me so mad. I would totally have driven down there and everything. Grrr.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 8 June 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I've even managed to turn my new 24 year old music-loving friend on to him, too.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 8 June 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
so is this available in any capacity anywhere? or am i going to have to wait for a while for it to go on netflix or whatever.
― Emily Bjurnhjam, Monday, 9 June 2008 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link
The film was wonderfully well done. Visually striking, enough of the "story" told to make it interesting to the uninitiated, and featuring a great deal of the only voice Arthur can contribute at this point--his music. For me, it mainly served the purpose of making me very anxious for the release of the "country" or "folk" recordings Audika has up next (September?). Even when accompanied solely by an acoustic guitar, rather than the more comparably expressive cello or kinetic disco setting, his unique voice (literal and figurative) comes through crystal clear. The couple of featured tunes were pure, beautiful Russell--I just wish I had somehow mentally recorded them, so I could hear them now. Steve Knutson--you've still got the best job in the world. And Dan--I bet you've been able to hear a lot of this stuff, what with your special DJing role (congrats on that). I saw it in Portland, and just missed being in town for the NYC screenings by a day.
― Soundslike, Monday, 9 June 2008 07:32 (fifteen years ago) link
saw Matt Wolf on the subway. think he said Plexifilm is releasing the DVD in November.
Steve Knutson's job is running Rough Trade in the US.
― beta blog, Monday, 9 June 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
He's no longer managing Audika/Arthur Russell's archives?
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that's more a labor of love.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
The keyboard line in Springfield makes me ache
― I know, right?, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a DFA records mix available for fee download from Fact Magazine
http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=641&Itemid=28
Which as far as I can tell has a peeviously unavailable loose joints dub. Doesn't sound like a re-edit.
1. Ghost Note 'Holy Jungle' 2. Fred Cherry 'Busride To The Zoo' 3. B.E. 'Party' 4. Wuthering Heights 'Shake It Baby Love' (40 Thieves edit) 5. DJ Cole Medina 'Buffalo Bill' (Cole's O.G. mix) 6. Fern Kinney 'Groove Me' (Cosmo Vitelli edit) 7. Chicken Lips 'White Dwarf' (Freakslastdaysofdiscoredo) 8. Babytalk 'Chance' (Hercules & Love Affair remix) 9. Time Machine (Jacques Renault Edit) 10. Repopulous 'My Piano' 11. Smith N Hack 'To Our Disco Friends' (Tribute) 12. Motor City Drum Ensemble 'Raw Cuts 1' 13. Black Meteoric Star 'World Eater' 14. Plastique De Rêve 'Lost in the City' 15. Extended Family 'Ulysses' (Harvey's Crowd Control Mix) 16. Loose Joints 'Tell You In Dub'
Anyone (Stirmonster?) know anything about this track?
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 3 July 2008 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
peeviously = previously, obv
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 3 July 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm guessing that it's just the instrumental of "tell you (today)". will try to give it a listen and see.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 3 July 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link
wow the movie was really great. just saw it. simple, direct, very moving.
― s1ocki, Monday, 7 July 2008 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link
i just heard a really different mix of "is it all over my face" on an archival wfmu broadcast; much fuller, totally different instrumentation (guitar!) and (i think) vocals than on the larry levan mix. building blocks of genius.
― m coleman, Monday, 7 July 2008 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link
can't stop listening to 'Wax The Van' these days - shame it's so short. he's all new to me.
― blueski, Monday, 7 July 2008 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link
"Tell You In Dub" is from this 12"... apparently it's a Joey Negro edit:
http://www.discogs.com/release/491909
― Gunderson, Monday, 7 July 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i did love the Arthur Rusell movie, but i thought it was a bit strange that disco was only mentioned briefly for maybe 30 seconds
― jaxon, Monday, 7 July 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
matt wolf was present at the screening i saw and said that the disco side of things was glossed over as there wasn't much footage available and he didn't want to resort to using cliched studio 54 type footage.
so, i could understood his reasons for glossing over the disco era but i also felt that was a bit of a cop out and that matt wolf personally perhaps didn't have so much love for that aspect of arthur's music so didn't dwell too much on it. i think the result of that is that anyone being introduced to arthur from seeing the film would be under the impression that he happened to make a couple of disco records on the side and it wasn't a very big deal.
he also said he didn't want to have endless talking heads in the film which again i can appreciate but to feature jens lekman over nicky siano...!!!!!!
anyway, that aside, i loved every minute of it.
― stirmonster, Monday, 7 July 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, that's the main drawback to the film. as friends and i have continued to discuss it (esp. after the screenings/ concerts at the kitchen) the disco omission is GLARING. it's ludicrous to think that in a few years, that stuff may be overshadowed by the pop, country-folk, art-song, and orchestral sides of the man (none of which, while astounding, ultimately compare imho). but it doesn't help that there's not a handy catch-all for those singles either. as Soul Jazz's comp didn't license "Tell You Today" "Kiss Me Again" and "Treehouse/Schoolbell" from Disco Not Disco 1 or that version of "Is It All Over My Face" (presuming m coleman means the version on that David Mancuso comp), it doesn't count.
― beta blog, Monday, 7 July 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
true dat about the disco.
― s1ocki, Monday, 7 July 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
re: full length "male" version of Is It All Over My Face: google blog search "david mancusco presents loft" and you should find it.
― sexyDancer, Monday, 7 July 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
...and you should find it!
― sexyDancer, Monday, 7 July 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
a chorus of banjees grunting it makes more sense than the other version.
― beta blog, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
t's ludicrous to think that in a few years, that stuff may be overshadowed by the pop, country-folk, art-song, and orchestral sides of the man (none of which, while astounding, ultimately compare imho).
actually, i think they do compare and that's what makes arthur such an astonishing genius.
― stirmonster, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
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are u responding to coleman or someone else??? coleman's version sounds like it came from the MAW remixes, doesnt sound like the male vox version to me. also the mancuso presents loft records are unbearably rare, you can get a reissue of the 12" w/ the male vocals for like 6 bucks
― deej, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
oh i see u just meant googling it, nev mind
― deej, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
google blog search is my download method, yeah "mancuso" vers is more guitar-heavy than the levan vers imho
― sexyDancer, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
u might be right! check the maw remix version too though
― deej, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
this might be the wrong place for this but:
5. DJ Cole Medina 'Buffalo Bill' (Cole's O.G. mix)
is so dope
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 7 July 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
mancuso presents loft records are unbearably rare, you can get a reissue of the 12" w/ the male vocals for like 6 bucks
I know this keeps coming up, but the version on the Loft box set is not the version on the West End 12" reissue.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:22 (fifteen years ago) link
ooooh tell me more
― deej, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link
you know i'm not that mad at this movie for the way it's structured. it's pretty short and i think it gives equal time to a lot of different aspects / periods in AR's life. while i would have liked to see more disco too cuz that's more where my interest is, and i'm sure the rest of ILX too, i think it's pretty fair representation regardless.
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 08:17 (fifteen years ago) link
i loved the film. i didn't really think disco was underrepresented, although maybe like the perfect study sample, i come from hearing the instrumentals stuff before the disco, even though it was strange not hearing kiss me again, etc. i liked how compartmentalised the film was; they captured the mood of each section beautiful, and the disco bit in particular was really ecstatic and loud. the whole film reminded me of how good music sounds in the cinema. i loved the discoloured vhs transfer treatment vibe too.
― schlump, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I wondered if they couldn't license Is It All Over My Face from West End or something, because even when they were talking disco, the focus was Go Bang and Bob Blank etc without even mentioning what is probably his biggest hit (though I suppose Go Bang may be more recognizable in certain dance circles, thanks to Todd Terry)
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link
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-- deej, Tuesday, July 8, 2008 4:25 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Yeah deej, you really should check out the male version on the Loft comp. It is most definitely different from the West End reissue and is most definitely my favorite version.
― matt2, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Caught the sole Australian screening with erstwhile ilx0r gaz/mullygrubber a few weeks back. It's really great at what it is, but one really hopes there can be a more detailed cut on DVD - I could take another half an hour of his parents talking, for example. Jens Lekman as a sudden talking head at the end was completely WTF! what sort of huge audience is going to come see the film for five seconds of him?
There was a great WHOOSH of excitement in the theatre when Lola started ramping up the Bangoes in her talking head bit. When we left, gaz opined that the world really needs a two-hour doco just about disco using source footage like those amazing fragments of Loft film, which was indisputably OTM.
(Drinking beforehand he had also lamented that no-one ever replied to this thread.)
The shortchanging of disco in the film was a big shame, but guy did such a great job of contextualising and illustrating all the phases of Arthur's life and art that he did cover. 8mm shots of teen Arthur in San Francisco!
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Auckland screening on Thursday. Excited! Though a bit worried about the apparent backgrounding of disco. Arranged a little afterparty thing; hadn't realised what a knockoff of Dan's poster it was, ha. http://i38.tinypic.com/2a608jt.jpg
― etc, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link
nice flyer...we got the font from Matt to make it extra "official" looking.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm going to the screening @ outfest in l.a. tomorrow night. can't wait!!!
― get bent, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Oooooh it covers Instrumentals etc type stuff? Fuckin A! Seeing it in 3 days
― Niles Caulder, Thursday, 17 July 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Vvv great. So pretty! His various musics seemed nicely portioned. "You're a good sport" "Are you sure?" made me cry a little.
― Niles Caulder, Monday, 21 July 2008 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link
woo! c/o audika myspace:
Arthur Russell ’Love Is Overtaking Me’ release date
The new compilation of Arthur's folk, pop, and country tunes will be released by Audika on October 28 2008. Track list and streaming audio via this page late August.
cd/lp, apparently.
― schlump, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Yay! So wanted this after the snippets over the cornbelt shots in the movie
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link
So the film is on at the ICA in London from the 26th Sept. www.ica.org.uk/Wild20Combination3A20A20Portrait20of20Arthur20Russell+17635.twl
AND Twitch/Stirmonster is DJing in the bar afterwards on the 26th, which is free.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 7 August 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
!
― I know, right?, Saturday, 16 August 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I know, right?
― jaxon, Saturday, 16 August 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
He/she doesn't like it when you do that.
I have to say, I'm really excited to hear this "new" stuff.
― admrl, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
movie is playing here october, followed by partially-me-curated after-show with our very own dominique leone!
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Sounds like a night of fine music and sweet bromance
― admrl, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
i was lucky enough to get a sneak preview of the new record. it's mainly fabulous. there's a few country songs, a few pop songs and a few songs that sound like the modern lovers.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
What kind of "pop" are we talking about here?
― admrl, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
arthur russell's take on "pop" i guess. they are hard to describe except that they are the most upbeat, commercial sounding songs i've heard him do. they do sound a bit like (and probably are) rough demos though.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a couple of these on myspace now. and the sleeve, to set the tone of arthur-goes-country.
― schlump, Friday, 29 August 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
ELI!
― I know, right?, Friday, 29 August 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Other one is only okay though. That is the first time I would use this term to apply to russell
― I know, right?, Saturday, 30 August 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i love the other one ("close my eyes") lots and lots. there are a couple of tracks i don't love on it but it's pretty great overall and makes me excited about what else might be lurking in the archives.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 30 August 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know, Eli isn't as astonishing as it is in the trailer either.
― I know, right?, Saturday, 30 August 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i didn't really like eli when i heard it, but love it now; there's kind of a weird connection to his stretchy cello-sync vocals on the rest of his solo stuff. and close my eyes is lovely. it reminds me of that old folk song the lakes of pontchartrain, that dylan used to do.
― schlump, Sunday, 31 August 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Deffo going to that ICA night, looks fun.
― Neil S, Sunday, 31 August 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Elodie Lauten's The Death Of Don Juan, w/ Arthur Russell on cello and vocals, has just been reissued on CD. Here's what Alan Licht had to say abt it in the third of his Minimalism Top Tens:
“This is one of the great lost experimental records of the 80s. Lauten has been around since the 70s, going back and forth between Paris and New York. The Death Of Don Juan is an opera, in the avant garde sense, but I honestly prefer it to any of Robert Ashley’s operas or the Philip Glass ones (except Einstein). There’s a Fairlight on most of the record, but fear not, as you would never know that it dates from 80s. The first two tracks sound like Joe Jones meets Glass or Steve Reich, with harpsichords, trine (an electric lyre that Lauten invented) and Arthur Russell’s cello. “Death As A Shadow” recalls Meredith Monk’s “Turtle Dreams” but is even more haunting and doomy. Russell’s vocal on “Death As A Woman” even reminds me of Moondog 2 and sounds unlike any of his other work. Even the libretto is fab-A+”
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 31 August 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
woah that is exciting.
samples here: i think i will buy.
― jed_, Sunday, 31 August 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
http://digital.othermusic.com/search/full.php?UID=284675
there, sorry.
nice article with Tom Leehttp://www.thefader.com/articles/2008/9/19/q-a-tom-lee-on-life-with-and-without-arthur-russell
― jaxon, Thursday, 25 September 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a good article in the new out magazine about russell
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 25 September 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Just a reminder for London ILXORs - film starts tonight at the ICA, with Optimo DJing AR & related stuff afterwards in the bar, which is free.
― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 26 September 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Short piece in the Guardian today:http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/sep/26/popandrock
― Neil S, Friday, 26 September 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
New track on the Audika myspace posted just today.
I think I heard that Chris Taylor from Grizzly Bear mixed this, but maybe he was lying.
― Owen Pallett, Friday, 26 September 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, that's in the promo stuff, mixed and edited apparently.has anyone seen it confirmed for vinyl yet? the others were, and steve audika said so, but i haven't heard it mentioned in the last while.
― schlump, Friday, 26 September 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link
here's a playlist from the post ica screening shindig.
Indian Ocean - School Bell / Tree HouseLoose Joints - Is It All Over My Face (Original Unreleased Version)Loose Joints - Is It All Over My Face (Male Vocal)Loose Joints - Is It All Over My Face (Female Vocal)Loose Joints - Is It All Over My Face (acapella)Loose Joints - Tell You (Today)Loose Joints - Pop Your FunkDinosaur L - #1 (You're Gonna Be Clean On Your Bean)Dinosaur L - Go Bang!(Francois Kevorkian Mix)Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again (Version)Arthur Russell - Keeping UpArthur Russell - A Little LostArthur Russell - Another ThoughtArthur Russell - Home Away From HomeArthur Russell - This Is How We Walk On The MoonArthur Russell - In The Light Of The MiracleArthur Russell - Let's Go Swimiing (Coastal Dub)Arthur Russell - The Platform On The OceanArthur Russell - That's Us / Wild CombinationArthur Russell - Place I Know / Kid Like YouArthur Russell - All-Boy All-GirlArthur Russell - Part I: June 23, 1977Arthur Russell - You Have Did The Right Thing When You Put That Skylight InThe Necessaries - Driving And Talking At The Same TimePeter Zummo - Song IVPeter Gordon - That HatClandestine Featuring Ned Sublette - Radio Rhythm (Killer Whale Dub Mix)Arthur Russell - Close My EyesArthur Russell - Goodbye Old PaintArthur Russell - This Time Dad You're WrongArthur Russell - The LetterArthur Russell - EliArthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
― stirmonster, Saturday, 27 September 2008 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link
ysi?
― john della boscaoila (sic), Saturday, 27 September 2008 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link
mmm, all-boy all-girl is so good. i've just been walking around listening to song iv, too. the ica bar must have been a nice place to be.
― schlump, Saturday, 27 September 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to Love Is Overtaking Me for the first time. It's quite an intimate listen. It's country music all the way (up till now), and some MOR pop/rock even. Can't really say anything else about it. Don't know if it's good or not. But the intimacy, and that voice...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Near the end of the album the songs slowly transform into the stylistics of his s/t album, with the drummachine entering. This is great stuff.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
oh didn't know this was out already. WANT.
― willem, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously, nobody is commenting on 'Love is Overtaking Me'?
It's brilliant, and a real grower--21 tracks, and though I prefer the slightly more organic avant-country-folk-singer-songwriter first half to the somewhat more familiar Casio-pop second half, it's remarkable that literally ever song is memorable. Definitely some of his strongest, most traditional melodies, and the lyrics are often quite beautiful and unabashedly romantic. It's obviously very compilation-y, not much aesthetic/production value consistency, but that's not a bad thing. Amazingly, half the tracks are from 1973-1975, and truly reveal an entirely unknown side and period for him. A lot of it feels a little Dylan-The Band, or Modern Lovers, or John Prine, but every bit is indelibly Arthur, even as unexpected as the context sometimes is. The only real downside is that some of the material is so strong, it makes me wish that an entire release had been made from that particular source (for example, the Flying Hearts/Ernie Brooks era stuff, if more of it exists.
There really seems to be no bottom of the barrel for Mr. Russell, which isn't really a surprise. I imagine that for many people, this will be a surprise fave amongst his oeuvre, even those of us who prefer his more avant-garde work.
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I saw this in the Soul Jazz shop last weekend and I thought WTF? I must investigate it.
― synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link
i totally share Soundslike's enthusiasm although i think i prefer the second half. "Love Comes Back" hits me pretty hard. i love it.
― jed_, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Agree about this being a grower.
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Audika's Steve Knutson was on Beats in Space last night (should be archived now at WNYU) and had heaps of unheard tracks: a never-released Walter Gibbons edit of "Go Bang" and a "World of Echo"-era track called "Planet of Thought." alas, radio crackle overwhelmed the latter, but so glad to know the 21st century has mineral rights on that stuff.
― beta blog, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Thats good to know. Is it available to stream online anywhere? Did Steve mention if any more releases were planned?
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, found it on WNYU, cheers
Anyone read ceddy's post on the Rolling Country Record. The album's a bore, he says. I'm in between Eddy and Soundslike's positions: I've played it every morning in the office, able to identify at least 10 strong melodies ("Don't Forget About Me" is such a quiet, gentlemanly song), but it hasn't become a must-have either.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
The new album is pleasant but slight. Largely missing those elements that made much of his work great.
Reminds me most of the Lemonheads.
― bidfurd, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
'pleasant' not used as a perjorative by the way (or sounding like the Lemonheads). I am enjoying it a lot.
― bidfurd, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmm, granted I haven't listened to the Lemonheads since about 1995 or so. . . but that connection wouldn't ring a bell for me.
Sticking by it as a "grower," because I've found several of the melodies firmly stuck in my head over the last few days, and also finding myself listening to the whole album on repeat, something I rarely do.
I can see what you mean about some of the qualities we usually associate with Russell's "greatness" being absent--it certainly isn't mysterious or (very often) experimental, it's certainly more traditional than anything one normally associates with him, and it's far from headphone music or dance music. But for me, both the essential melodicism of all his work--you can identify Arthur's keyboard playing in any context within a few note-clusters, for example--and the unabashed, unbound joy in making music that Arthur possessed come through as clear as ever.
It would be a weird introduction, or at least maybe a misleading one (though for someone who rarely seemed to do the same thing twice, maybe there isn't really a right or "representative" work). But for those of us already initiated, I think it adds yet another wrinkle. Though I have heard from some who otherwise aren't fans that this is far more likable and accessible, so who knows--maybe it's a great introduction to get someone hooked.
― Soundslike, Friday, 31 October 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
wow that beats in space looks like it had some amazing stuff on it
― t_g, Friday, 31 October 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh my!
Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again (Unreleased Japanese Vocal Mix)
This is so good.
― arghkaybee, Friday, 31 October 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link
the death of don juan is INCREDIBLE, one of the best i've heard all year. not that it's technically new
― psychgawsple, Saturday, 1 November 2008 11:13 (fifteen years ago) link
'Don Juan' is quite good, even the bits lacking any Arthur Russell ; )
Make sure you've heard Peter Zummo's 'Zummo With an X,' especially "Song IV" for more relatively overlooked longform Arthur goodness. . .
― Soundslike, Saturday, 1 November 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Catching a doc on this dude Monday night. Know nothing about him, will read this thread.
― what i got is HOOS for the capitalism (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 November 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I only realised recently that Arthur plays cello on Talking Heads 'Psycho Killer (Acoustic)', one of the bonus tracks on the 77 re-issues from a couple of years ago. More goodness.
― arghkaybee, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Hoos smoke some weed first
― Niles Caulder, Sunday, 2 November 2008 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I wish I could be where Hoos is.
― I know, right?, Sunday, 2 November 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
It's playing all over, even Cleveland and Ithaca!
Upcoming Festivals, Special Events, and Theatricals
Boston Theatrical:
Boston Museum of Fine Art Opens October 30 1 WEEK ONLY - buy tickets
Alamo Drafthouse, AustinNovember 3 & 5, Screening Times TBA
San Francisco Theatrical:
Roxie Theater, San Francisco Opens November 7 1 WEEK ONLY
Leeds Film Festival, UKNovember 7, 18:00 - The WardrobeNovember 11, 18:30 - Carriageworks, Film Forum
Cleveland CinemathequeNovember 9, Screening Time TBA
Pittsburgh FilmmakersNovember 9 & 11, Screening Time TBA
Amsterdam Theaterical:
SMART Cinema Opens November 13 - 1 MONTH weekly screenings and parties
Pauze Festival, Utrecht + GentNovember 13, 19:00 - Theater Kikker, UtrechtNovember 15, 18:00 - Vooruit, Gent
Starz Denver Film Festival, ColoradoNovember 22 + 23, 6:00
November Scandinavia Tour: Filmaker in attendance
CPH:Dox, Denmark November 7 - 16, Screening Time TBA
Oslo Film Festival, Norway November 20 - 30, Screening Time TBA
Stockholm Film Festival, Sweden November 20 - 30, Screening Time TBA
Hong Kong Lesbian and Gay Film FestivalNovember 20 - December 3, Screening Time TBA
ConClub, RotterdamNovember 22nd, 20:30 - Zaal de Unie
Cinema Maldà, BarcelonaNovember 25th, Screening Time TBA
Cinema Lux, Lugano, SwitzerlandNovember 28th, Screening Time TBA
La casa encendida, MadridNovember 29 - 30, Screening Time TBA
Brighton Film Festival, UKDecember 1st, Screening Time TBA
Special New York Encore Screening:
MoMA, New York December 5, 7:00 / December 19, 8:00 - Titus 2 Filmmaker in attendance
Cornell Cinema, IthacaDecember 10, 12, 13, Time TBD
Rooftop Cinema, MelbourneJanuary 20, Time TBD
― psychgawsple, Sunday, 2 November 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Reminder that 'Wild Combination' sees DVD release Nov. 18th (tomorrow) in the US (apparently already released on the 4th in Europe).
I'm excited to watch it again. And I hope people aren't missing out on 'Love is Overtaking Me,' haven't seen as much press this time around. Haven't listened to it in a week, yet I still have five or six tracks on stuck-in-my-head-got-me-singing rotation. The blue-eyed-soul stuff with the brass arrangements in the middle remain especially devestating.
― Soundslike, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
cool! did not know this was going to be on DVD so soon. and yeah, i really need to order the new one.
― tylerw, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm receiving it via Netflix tomorrow.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I find myself drawn to 'Love Is Overtaking Me' every single day since I got it. So much beauty in there. Will definitely get the DVD.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
this is interesting but also a total tease! http://dustedmagazine.com/features/778i respect that audika isn't just throwing every last thing out there, regardless of quality, but some of that stuff sounds fascinating!
― tylerw, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
The documentary is lovely.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I need to get in touch with Mr. Knutson. Meet up with him in NYC one day, get him really drunk, convince him to make me a few DVD-Rs worth of unreleased material.
Truly, I wouldn't even leak it. I'd just be made a much happier man.
― Soundslike, Monday, 24 November 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
KATE! I've been touched by the Lord. I don't need you anymore!!
...favorite song at the moment along w/ "I couldn't say it to your face."
― Moreno, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah what the hell is the point of that dusted feature. worst listed EVER, unless the tracks are available of course :)
― psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
which they aren't
― psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I find that list rather refreshing in this age of instant gratification.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
the worst part is "...you will NEVER hear".
why the hell not?
― braveclub, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Because he has all the access. So what? At least you got to hear ANY Arthur Russell.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 24 November 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem like this comp is gathering quite the attention in press that the previous reissues/compilations got? I was so happy when Russell started getting any attention at all--guess I can't be greedy. But this one would seem an even easier sell for the general listener, no?
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I am loving it. I'm not sure if what you are talking about is true or not. So, turn some people on to it. I know I will play "The Letter" on my next radio show.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
arthur russells singing is so bad - what a dik
i mean cause like his music is otherwise so great
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
b-b-but if they're that great, why not set them free, rather than blathering about it on the internet?
― "a fecund debut" (Dave from Norwich), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link
They aren't that great! Did you read the descriptions? Arthur is RAPPING on a track. So what, maybe this guy is just bragging about all the music he gets to hear that no one else has access to. Just the idea that no one else has that access is kind of novel to me, at this point, since everything is just one illegal download away.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
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wtf who thinks this??? icey u crazy
― deej, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
IM LEARNING TO TROLL
― t_g, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
hay wtf u band bro
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
woops
― t_g, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
ahahaha
― deej, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
― fela cooties (haitch), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I just saw the documentary last week and I thought it was very good and very interesting. But it left me wondering about what his personality was like, how he was socially, that kind of thing. The S.F. tape in the extras on the DVD where he speaks was kinda neat, though.
― I SYMPATHIZE HAMSTER (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Just when you think you know everything about Arthur Russell...
just kidding, I never thought that, but this one had slipped by me. The Death of Don Juan, an Opera in Two Acts by Elodie Lauten featuring cello and vocals by Arthur. Zummo's on it as well. I purchased it from iTunes and it's really fantastic. Alan Licht apparently gave it props on the 3rd edition of his minimalism top 10. It's some serious post-minimalist stuff, ranging from catchy Reich/Glass style stuff done on a Fairlight to more meditative and droney bits. Echoes of Riley and Meredith Monk as well. Really great stuff.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 20 December 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah; nice headphone listening while bopping around the streets. arthur's cello sounds great, and blends really well, but some of my favourite stuff on there's i guess the minimalist bits you mention, without him.
― schlump, Sunday, 21 December 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Love Is Overtaking Me made my Pazz & Jop and Nashville Scene lists, and I posted some about it on Rolling Country (in the Comments section of my Scene ballot)(had to put it in Reissues because that ballot includes even prev. unreleased music as Reissues:"any album on which at least fifty percent of the music was recorded at least five years ago").I did have to listen to it more than once to get into it, but second time's the charm. The DVD has a very unusually good balance of talk and music, and the imagery, pace of edits, etc. is very musical too, plus good bonuses.
― dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link
April 4, 2009The Music of Arthur RussellAn evening of the composer's vocal, instrumental, and dance musicCo-presented with Justine D. and boomBOOM PresentsLe Poisson Rouge / 10pm doors / 10:30pm show
i remember hearing that there was a performance of the instrumentals at the kitchen before the film came out. so might be interesting.
― schlump, Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/345578-01.htm
also on cd.
good for the arthur completist though the packaging could have been better.
it's a delight to finally hear the 12.26 walter gibbon's mix of "go bang!" although now i have i'm a little glad i didn't part with the $200 some japanese dealer was asking for a bootleg 12" of it a few years back.
― stirmonster, Friday, 27 February 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link
brilliant. are those the same versions of treehouse/schoolbell from the soul jazz comp?
― straightola, Friday, 27 February 2009 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Is Love is Overtaking Me worth purchasing, or not? I quite like World of Echo, but some of the comparisons in this thread scare me.
― batmeh (brightscreamer), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not convinced of his genius yet, but LIOM forced me to reconsider him. Such warm, friendly music. Nothing great, but a perfect morning soundtrack.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
He makes me sad in a way, because though I believe he was capable of some incredibly brilliant, unique stuff (World of Echo for starters) but he has also done a lot of music that has left me disappointed or scratching my head. I guess it's a good thing he was so prolific.
― Gothy McGoth (Bimble), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link
love is overtaking me = james taylor
some of it's real good though, and it oscillates between totally fully formed stuff - like real ensemble pieces - and scruffier demos. some of it's as classic as everything else though.
― schlump, Monday, 9 March 2009 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link
bimble, it's probably worth remembering that a lot of that music wasn't finished, so it's hard to judge him for that. Like some of this stuff he knew would leave you scratching your head, and he didn't finish it, and it never came out, so we can't really knock him for that!
― dan selzer, Monday, 9 March 2009 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link
James Taylor my ass. None of that methadone noblesse here, if that's what you meant. Young AR's always always reflective, but always observant, always moving (eventually into Talking Heads-type territory)
― dow, Monday, 9 March 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
so, stirmonster's link in that post isn't working for me, so i'm just going to post the tracklist here so we all know how awesome this is...
Arthur Russell - The Sleeping Bag Sessions
01 - Bonzo Goes To Washington - 5 Minutes (B-B-B Bombing Mix)02 - Felix - Tiger Stripes (Extended Version)03 - Felix - You Can't Hold Me Down (Extended Version)04 - Clandestine feat. Ned Sublette - Radio Rhythm (S-I-G-N-A-L-S-M-A-R-T) (Extra Cheese Mix)05 - Sounds Of JHS 126 Brooklyn - Chill Pill (Underwater Mix)06 - Indian Ocean - School Bell/Tree House (Original 12" Version)07 - Indian Ocean - Treehouse (Extended Bootleg Edit)08 - Dinosaur L - Go Bang! (Walter Gibbons Mix)09 - Bonzo Goes To Washington - 5 Minutes (R-R-R Radio Mix)10 - Clandestine feat. Ned Sublette - Radio Rhythm (S-I-G-N-A-L-S-M-A-R-T) (Dub Mix) (Killer Whale)
vinyl: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Arthur-Russell-The-Sleeping-Bag-Sessions/release/1677023
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link
(i may have meant jackson browne (i get mixed up)) (but it is so true, all his kinda slow drum machine shuffly eighties stuff)
― deveraux billings (schlump), Monday, 9 March 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Russell & Ned Sublette collabo - awesome.
― bamcquern, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, the idea. Never heard the track.
― bamcquern, Monday, 9 March 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
A lot of these are experiments, knockoffs, brief sketches, and just plain screwing around in the studio. What's amazing is how much of this stuff sounds so right even in its unfinished state. But, I suspect Russell is one artist who never really thought any work as definitively finished.
― leavethecapital, Monday, 9 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I could listen to "Your Motion Says" and the title track all day long.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 March 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Sorry to be grouchy.
― dow, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Sleeping Bag Sessions is wonderful. Dance Arthur is still tops for me above folky/Kitchen/singer-songwriter Arthur. The man had such a malleable, off kilter way with the technology and techniques of club/dance music that I could listen and learn forever.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Monday, 16 March 2009 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link
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― m coleman, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
That is absolutely wonderful, hadn't heard that one before. Has that been reissued on anything? I'd rank that in the tops of his dance stuff.
― Soundslike, Thursday, 30 April 2009 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link
west end reissued it about two years ago, you can probably find it at one of the online record stores.
the one that is still infuriatingly out of print is 'kiss me again' - considering sire have reissued things like 'white horse' you'd hope they'll get around to repressing it at some point.
― butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link
You can find it on the Disco Not Disco comp.
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, that's not in print either now!
― butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
also it had a short, edited version. this is the one i'm after.
― butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, speaking of which, didn't somebody ask about any of the Sleeping Bag Sessions tracks being on Soul Jazz comps? I've got ones with those versions of "Tiger Stripes", "Schoolbell/Treehouse", "Indian Ocean", and "Go Bang!", but all my Soul Jazz comps featuring Arthur are of print, I think, and I've never seen the other tracks on SBS.
― dow, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I secretly like the 6 minute edit of Kiss Me Again that appears on Disco Not Disco better then the 12/13 minute full length and dub versions, but of course all 3 are better then anything else ever recorded in the history of music.
The SBS comp has a version of Go Bang that's never been released, the fabled Walter Gibbons mix.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link
really??? i way prefer the longer versions.
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 30 April 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link
same. dub is my fav
― just sayin, Thursday, 30 April 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link
The Walter Gibbons mix of Go Bang has become my favourite.
I think Stirmonster has also done a re-edit of Kiss Me Again which he linked to on an Arthur Russell thread before.
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link
it's really just a "radio" edit of the b-side to the original 12" version that cuts out 5 minutes of it as i couldn't fit the full version onto our "psyche out" mix. it's also useful for when it's hard to fit the full length version in a set but in an ideal world, i'd go with the full length version every time.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The Soul Jazz Arthur Russell comp is back in print on CD and LP as of a month or so ago, so pick it up if you haven't got it, it's great.
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, really...I heard the edit first and it's just got this harder edge to it.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the soul jazz comp is so much better than the sleeping bag sessions, walter gibbons mix aside and was my gateway to the man really. just listening to tell you on youtube and i need it baaad
― straightola, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I secretly like the 6 minute edit of Kiss Me Again that appears on Disco Not Disco better then the 12/13 minute full length and dub versions
Cosign (minus the secretly).
This Sleeping Bag thing is a mess, obv. I like how Bonzo Goes to Washington, which is essentially Bootsy Collins and Jerry Harrison's record, is now being claimed as a Russell creation. (He mixed it.)
― Matos W.K., Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
"Chill Pill" on the Sleeping Bag Sessions is cool.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ye, besides the gibbons mix "chill pill" is my favorite on the sbs record
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
the world always needs more trippy, dubbed out kid-rap
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, it really is
― like i read your blog (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Where did you hear it, Beats in Space?
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i downloaded it from a blog
― zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
link?
― elan, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
link
― zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
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― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
why the sadface
― zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Thursday, 21 May 2009 09:00 (fourteen years ago) link
said it was deleted earlier, workin' fine now!
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 21 May 2009 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Yo my blog!
That mix of Pop Yr Funk IS nuts. Someone needs to reissue it as a seven inch.
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 21 May 2009 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link
a friend assured me that the a-side of that 7 inch is even more killer.
― beta blog, Thursday, 21 May 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
great article. it also mentions the pop yr funk 7" (to bridge the thread from may to september ;-)
― willem, Friday, 11 September 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks Willem, that is a great read.
Also, I'm very pleased to hear about
long awaited in depth biography Hold On to Your Dreams: Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973–92 is due out this fall from author of the disco history Love Saves The Day Tim Lawrence. Lawrence confirms – “The book is going to be about 400 pages long”
― OCD Scrobbles (I am using your worlds), Friday, 11 September 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah thanks for the link Willem, great article.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 September 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
have people talked about this album of covers coming out soon?http://www.myspace.com/electricmindsrecords
― jaxon, Monday, 12 October 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
'New' track Come To Life streaming http://www.myspace.com/audikarecords7" single released via Terrible Records today.
― bertie, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
excited about that 7' but for some reason not so excited about the covers album though i will no doubt check it out. there aren't many arthur russell covers i've heard that can touch the original.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
God, what a fantastic track. Russell just seemed to accidentally create whole genres nobody else has even thought of--I mean, really, at what point in history would that music have made sense? 60s? 70s? 80s? 00s? None, to my ears--but it's great nevertheless. Wow. Really should have been on 'Love Is Overtaking Me'.
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Anybody go to the October 10 panels in NYC at NYU?
Arthur Russell
conference at NYU -- "kissme again: the life and legacy of arthur russell," organized in conjunctionwith the publication of tim lawrence's new book, "Hold On to Your Dreams:Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene" (duke university press). Fullschedule at http://arthursymposium.blogspot.com/
― curmudgeon, Thursday, October 8, 2009
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Second the love for "Come to Life."
― Douglas, Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Always surprised I never hear anyone mention More Real off Event Horizon by The Necessaries. Pop/rock Arthur in fine form. The Finish Line is pretty cool too.
― bertie, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link
"More Real" has long been one of my Russell faves, definitely. Put it on my '1981' mix even though that's a slight fib--I believe it was only on the 2nd version of the album, which wasn't 1981, I think.
― Soundslike, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anybody know what the original tracklist for the "Corn" album was supposed to be? I've read there were multiple versions, but I've never seen any of them.
― J. Sam, Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
ok half way through tim lawrence's "hold on to your dreams" which is all and more than i hope it would be.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 26 November 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
ohhh, did you get a pre-release copy or is it available?
― jed_, Thursday, 26 November 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
it's been out a couple of weeks. i had it on pre-order from amazon so got it right away.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 26 November 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
cheers, will seek!
― jed_, Thursday, 26 November 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
ah neat, I thought this was still something for the distant future. I've been meaning to read the thing he wrote on AR and Deleuze & Guattari for ages (since I stopped being annoyed that it existed when I had planned on doing something similar myself), so I have to get that out of the way first...
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 26 November 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone know why the "Arthur Russell - See Through (Walter Gibbons Remix) (3:44)" unreleased track was removed form the "Jungle Music" comp on Strut when it seems it was on promo copies?
― crispyben, Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I asked Strut not to release it as it's not a remix nor does it have anything to do with Walter Gibbons. It's part of one of Arthur's own work tapes, and best remains unheard. I was very unhappy that they actually sent out promos without the actual approval.
― Steven Knutson/Audika Records, Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks for the insightful answer, I thought it might have something to do with that, as it is mentioned as an unfinished work in the liner notes...
― crispyben, Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
There's a new Arthur Russell and the Flying Hearts single on iTunes: "Ballad of the Lights", featuring Allen Ginsberg.
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 21 October 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
there's no way this is real, right?
http://soundcloud.com/garylucas/second-edition-vin-diesel-vs
― jaxon, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
OMG
― if hongroes could fly this place would be a geirport (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
i think that is real. their collab is mentioned in the a. russell book
― one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yep it is! Ha.
― the crap gig in the sky (MaresNest), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
wowowow I've wanted to hear this since reading Hold On To Your Dreams...here's hoping for the (phonetically learned) Japanese version of "Kiss Me Again" next!
― Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
wowwww this is awesome!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
Oh my!Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again (Unreleased Japanese Vocal Mix)This is so good.― arghkaybee, Friday, October 31, 2008 9:52 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark
― arghkaybee, Friday, October 31, 2008 9:52 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark
Does anyone have this? Anyone heard it?
― Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
it'll prob still be available on the beats in space website
― just sayin, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
Vin is really influenced by Schooly D
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
xp - Brilliant, thanks for the pointer! I had missed the context that it was on BIS.
― Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone heard the 7" mix of Is It All Over My Face?
Guy on discogs claims it's the best male version and i seem to have a vague recollection of Mike Simonetti mentioning it being a totally different mix on his twitter. Was listening to what sounded like another alt mix on an old live Larry Levan mix and its got me wondering about what other versions are kickin around.
Speaking of alternative Russell tracks, theres a version of Calling All Kids tucked away at the very end of this Walter Gibbons tape. Don't recognise the vocals though, anyone know?
― Tropical Dandy, Saturday, 2 July 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
a music video (made by walter gibbons in 1986) for 'let's go swimming'. i didn't know this existed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM5S2T9xZ6A
― geeta, Friday, 16 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeahhhh, just saw that! perfect.
― tylerw, Friday, 16 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, that's super. Don't think I'd heard that version of Let's Go Swimming before either.
― psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Friday, 16 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's coming out on audika this month. audikarecords.com http://audikarecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Lets-Go-Swimming-12-Front-Cover1-666x659.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 16 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
oh man I will totally buy this but I wish it included that video as well...
― sleeve, Friday, 16 September 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
I'd kind of overlooked First Thought Best Thought since ummmm it came out I suppose, but suddenly 'Instrumentals Vol. 1' is the loveliest thing ever.
― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Monday, 10 June 2013 09:30 (ten years ago) link
dunno how it never struck me before, it sounds like Maher Shalal Hash Baz, that should have made it an immediate hit for me.
― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Monday, 10 June 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link
Yeah it totally sounds like MSHB, it's one of my favourite things by AR.
― high inerja (seandalai), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:32 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if there's still any hope for Audika's planned release (from nearing a decade ago now--yikes!) of the 'World of Echo' demos. . . calling Mr. Knutson!
― Soundslike, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
Really wish I could hear the 15:49 minute New Shoes Part I & II version of Tell You Today.
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 04:39 (ten years ago) link
It seems so counter-intuitive (though I assume it's due to perfectly typical label rights issues) that notwithstanding all AR retrospectivizing going on in the past 10 years it's still very hard to obtain the long versions of "Kiss me Again" and "Tell You Today".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link
Always get my hopes up for a moment when I see this thread has been bumped, that Steve at Audika is going to issue something else. 'Love Is Overtaking Me' was so damned good. And there was talk oh, I guess a decade ago, of releasing 'World of Echo' demos, which would basically make my year. . .
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link
The Soul Jazz compilation was my introduction to him. I love all the Audika stuff but "World of..." is better for his disco tracks. Would love a volume 2 collecting some more of the unavailable single tracks.
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link
Another Thought has been given a recent vinyl issue with some 'subtle' remastering apparently.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 09:28 (ten years ago) link
was wanting to get that... has there been any talk about the remastering?
― just sayin, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link
i'll just leave this herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwlsdSutsQw
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
I haven't read any critical mentions yet, to be truthful the whole thing could do with an outright but subtle remix when I hear the noise gate cutting the vocals in and out on Home Away From Home it kinda makes me wince.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
that's fantastic xp
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
haven't read any critical mentions yet, to be truthful the whole thing could do with an outright but subtle remix when I hear the noise gate cutting the vocals in and out on Home Away From Home it kinda makes me wince.
noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! "home away from home" is maybe my favourite arthur russell song which possibly makes it my all time favourite track by anyone ever. nothing about this track needs a remix (that noise gate is an intrinsic part of the character of it). if anyone ever tried to remix it i think i'd make it my life's mission to track them down and shout abuse at them until my time on this planet was up.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
Stir OTM
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
Hah well, it's my favourite AR song too and is hauntingly beautiful, which is why I think it is a shame hearing that beautiful voice singing '.ome away from home'
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
so, it turns out someone has remixed it, though not in the way we are referring to -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2b1F5fe3kE
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
tim otm
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
so is this 'Tell You Today" version just the two version on the 12" spliced together, or something else entirely?
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
has anyone ever actually heard the long version of "tell you today"? i've never encountered it or met anyone who has heard it. if it exists it remains the only arthur russell released creation i have still to hear.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Going by discogs it's only available on this version of the 12"
http://www.discogs.com/Loose-Joints-Tell-You-Today/release/95384
but with the same cat number is this version marked as a mispress (Mispress. Label states B side is 15:49 New Shoes Part I & II but actually plays 5:44 Instrumental)
http://www.discogs.com/Loose-Joints-Tell-You-Today/release/2975303
I guess it's possible EVERY version is "mispressed" and the 15:49 version has never been released
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
hmm I'm gonna have to look at my copy when I get home today, can't believe this is a $50 record now
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
oh, this is the one I have, now I see the difference
http://www.discogs.com/Loose-Joints-Tell-You-Today/release/842719
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
I own a copy of the original "Tower Of Meaning" LP. Discogs just blew my mind at what it's selling for. o_O
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
well really you need to check completed listing, but still!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
Ah yeah - that's a test pressing (!) on Discogs. Continues to put a smile on my face that the resurgent love for AR was not a passing thing. Long may he inspire and move!
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
There's a Japanese only loose Joints singles CD:
OTLCD-5061
01. Is It All Over My Face? (Original 12" Version) 02. Pop Your Funk (Original 12" Version) 03. Pop Your Funk (Original Single Vocal Version) 04. Pop Your Funk (Original Single Instrumental Version) 05. Is It All Over My Face (Original 12" Larry Levan Female Vocal Version) 06. Tell You (Today) (Original 12" Vocal Version) 07. Tell You (Today) (Original 12" New Shoes Edit) 08. Tell You (Today) (Original 12" Instrumental Version) 09. Is It All Over My Face (Masters At Work Remix) 10. Is It All Over My Face (MAW Joint Dub) 11. Is It All Over My Face (Unreleased Single Female Vocal Version)
No long version of "tell you today" :(
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
amaze tho
(assume the MAWs are redundant but still)
― giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
daaaamn never seen that!
Audika to thread!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
'Kiss Me Again' was reissued/bootlegged via Insound (I think) a year or so ago. It's easy to find....The promo and commercial copies of 'Tell You Today' are different mixes/edits. This is the first I've heard of a Japanese Loose Joints EP - anyone have a link to view/buy?
I have a new album in the works of previously unreleased music, more in the vein and left of Calling Out Of Context material. Some of the material is from similar sessions as 'Platform On The Ocean'. I'm hoping to have it out late Spring 2014.I'm also repressing all the Audika vinyl with World Of Echo on deck first for early next year.
― Steven Knutson/Audika Records, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
you're a hero, dude! thanks for all of this.
― tylerw, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
Here's a link for Loose Joints
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Loose-Joints-Complete-Collection-OTLCD-5061/dp/B00FA7VML4/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1386966092&sr=1-1&keywords=loose+joints+pop+your+funk
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Friday, 13 December 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
― tylerw, Friday, December 13, 2013 4:21 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^ that's so lovely to hear, steven! hyped for platform-on-the-ocean era cuts. & i have a bunch of the audika lps but it's always cool seeing them existing again in shop windows, &c. these records give me as much pleasure as anything.
on another note i just saw the another thought reissue, it is so irresistible, even the way the songs are split up is super alluring
― love mike love (ko komo) (schlump), Friday, 13 December 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
Woo, nice! Very glad to hear the news, Steven--can't wait!
― Soundslike, Saturday, 14 December 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link
Reissued Loose Joints!
http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=24875
Still no 16 min version of Tell You Today though :(
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
Happy birthday, Arthur!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-OZokZbaUs
― Soundslike, Thursday, 22 May 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.yeproc.com/artists/master-mix-red-hot-arthur-russell
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 10:44 (nine years ago) link
I guess I have a limitless appetite for AR offcuts but this one is making me smile a lot:
https://soundcloud.com/foommusic/dinosaur-l-clean-on-your-bean-featuring-peter-gordon
― ⊤ℝolliℵg M∃th H∑a∂ (seandalai), Thursday, 5 February 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link
Excellent. What's the story with it?
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 5 February 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/17308-dinosaur-l-clean-on-your-bean-00-ft-peter-gordon/
Sorting through his own archive of tapes not long ago, Gordon came across an unmarked box with a 1/4-inch reel inside; that tape, he says, turned out to be an unreleased mix of 1982's "Clean On Your Bean" (co-produced with Russell under his moniker Dinosaur L). François Kevorkian's mix of the same song serves as the B-side to Dinosaur L's "Go Bang! #5", the inaugural 12-inch on the Sleeping Bag label, but this version, with vocals and saxophone pushed into the foreground, is Gordon's own.In an email, Gordon offered some history. "'Clean On Your Bean' was born of the circus," he writes. "At the time, I was playing music with the Big Apple Circus (other members of the circus band included Peter Zummo, Boris Policeband, Denman Maroney and Michael Cannick). One of the circus acts was a unicycle act comprised of young African-American athletes, the Backstreet Flyers. Two of the performers (Andre and Abel) were neophyte rappers and I brought them into the studio with Arthur. This version features more vocals (and more of Arthur’s lyrics) than appear on the single, or on the album 24->24 Music. You can very slightly hear Julius Eastman's organ playing (more prominently featured on 'Go Bang') in the background."
In an email, Gordon offered some history. "'Clean On Your Bean' was born of the circus," he writes. "At the time, I was playing music with the Big Apple Circus (other members of the circus band included Peter Zummo, Boris Policeband, Denman Maroney and Michael Cannick). One of the circus acts was a unicycle act comprised of young African-American athletes, the Backstreet Flyers. Two of the performers (Andre and Abel) were neophyte rappers and I brought them into the studio with Arthur. This version features more vocals (and more of Arthur’s lyrics) than appear on the single, or on the album 24->24 Music. You can very slightly hear Julius Eastman's organ playing (more prominently featured on 'Go Bang') in the background."
― ⊤ℝolliℵg M∃th H∑a∂ (seandalai), Thursday, 5 February 2015 09:52 (nine years ago) link
Finally found the 15:49 minute New Shoes Part I & II version of Tell You Today online
http://youtu.be/3Iw8xCdm-xA
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
and also In the Light of the Miracle (Ponytail Club Mix Part 1 & 2)
http://youtu.be/c3pl-yMX_6o
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
Thanks!
― paolo, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
That is great! Love the bleeps and bloops on Tell You Today.
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
I'd been looking for it for years, to the point where I had begun to think it didn't exist, so finally hearing it and it being as great as I'd always hoped has put a big smile on my face.
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
thanks for the links!
― tylerw, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
superextended "tell you today" is amazing, big smiles all around. thanks, worlds.
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
f**k!!!!! it really does exist. i too had stopped believing it did. it's everything i hoped it would be too but also pains me that i'll have to put it back to the top of the list of records i'm searching for and will probably never find. i wonder why nobody has made it available again?
― stirmonster, Friday, 20 February 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link
So great and dubbed out. Kind of a Holy Grail achieved just to hear this!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link
Master Mix: Red Hot + Arthur Russell really is a fine joint.
― dow, Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link
Too, I mean (thanx for latest links!)
― dow, Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:58 (nine years ago) link
this is incredible, cheers!
― tayto fan (Michael B), Saturday, 21 February 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link
xxxxp looks like its on discogs? http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/199411487
"Notestotal duration of side B is 15:49 "
― just sayin, Saturday, 21 February 2015 06:59 (nine years ago) link
im 99.9% sure that's not it. i've fallen for it being that one before which is why i have ended up with several copies all the same that aren't the one in the video.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 21 February 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link
really? the title and running time are exactly the same. what's the difference?
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 February 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link
looks like the seller is Joseph Colbourne, a friend and a friend of many a DJ I know. May be worth contacting him and asking.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 21 February 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link
i've contacted him just in cas. i have a copy with those exact running times on the label but the actual record is just the original instrumental. there was a label misprint. trust me, i've been looking for 15 years. :-)
― stirmonster, Saturday, 21 February 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
case.
this is amazing, thank you
― sleeve, Saturday, 21 February 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
^^
is that ginsberg on in the light of the miracle?
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
Sounds like him!
What year is that "LOTM" remix from? Sounds recent. Maybe it's the House pulse running underneath.0
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 22 February 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link
it is ginsberg. it was scheduled for release in '96 but never got past the promo stage. i guess it was done around that time.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 22 February 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
AR shows up several times in Ginsberg's box set,Holy Soul Jelly Roll, to very good effect. Dylan plays on a couple of the same tracks.
― dow, Sunday, 22 February 2015 15:01 (nine years ago) link
T. Heads, "Psycho Killer" with Arthur on cello ( 'tube comments incl. that it's a bonus track on Talking Heads 77, dunno if it's same version though.)Note big chunks of AR on this same youtube page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoclXuB6JOU
― dow, Friday, 6 March 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
I have a new album in the works of previously unreleased music, more in the vein and left of Calling Out Of Context material. Some of the material is from similar sessions as 'Platform On The Ocean'. I'm hoping to have it out late Spring 2014.
Wonder what the status of this is?
― spastic heritage, Friday, 6 March 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
attn englanders:
https://twitter.com/Cafeoto/status/581447893325840385
― yeovil knievel (NickB), Friday, 27 March 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link
woahthat's quite a line-upday after Eurovision thoughI will be hungover
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Saturday, 28 March 2015 01:14 (nine years ago) link
wish i hadn't told my friends about it, looks like getting tickets is going to be a vicious, bloody battle
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 March 2015 01:29 (nine years ago) link
Really hoping this event is documented better than with someone's cell phone.
― doug watson, Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:18 (nine years ago) link
What time did it sell out? I completely forgot to check until 4pm or so.
Wonder whether they would be able to put on a second show the next day.
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
it managed to break the site, when it started functioning again after around an hour down it sold out in a matter of minutes. i was successful!
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
Damn, good work Merdey!
― yeovil knievel (NickB), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 06:51 (nine years ago) link
Was lucky enough to be checking my Twitter feed (which I m/l never do) around the time that the new venue was announced and extra tickets were released, so I am going to this. Hopla!
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link
http://content-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10339780_824440714299874_6398739041397457071_n.jpg?oh=548f83ac748132d723120481e5d90be3&oe=55A9E648Out in June!
― Goodoh, Saturday, 11 April 2015 09:03 (nine years ago) link
wow!
Arthur Russell fans buoyed by this 2014 vinyl edition of World Of Echo can look forward to vinyl re-presses of the compilations Love Is Overtaking Me and Calling Out Of Context, as well as an upcoming album of unreleased material entitled CORN: “The material is for the most part solo, and to the left of Calling Out Of Context. Programmed drum machine, heavy metal cello, multi-layer Casio drones, and all very rhythmic."
http://www.thevinylfactory.com/vinyl-factory-releases/the-story-of-arthur-russell-world-of-echo/
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 11 April 2015 12:29 (nine years ago) link
I thought a lot of the Corn material showed up on Calling Out Of Context? Or is this new album different to the original unreleased Corn album?
― courtney barnett formula (seandalai), Saturday, 11 April 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link
anyway new material is always welcome
Love is Overtaking Me is a real grower
― paolo, Saturday, 11 April 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Extra London date! Kind of wish I'd waited...
― courtney barnett formula (seandalai), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
01 Lucky Cloud02 Corn03 Keeping Up04 See My Brother, He's Jumping Out (Let's Go Swimming #2)05 This Is How We Walk on the Moon06 Corn (Continued)07 Hiding Your Present From You08 They and Their Friends09 Ocean Movie
can you even imagine hearing alternate versions of some of these songs
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 30 April 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link
I cannot believe this thread failed to alert me to the "Pop Your Funk" reissue:
http://www.discogs.com/Loose-Joints-Pop-Your-Funk/release/6922282
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
Times being what they are I've put my copy of "Tower Of Meaning" up for sale on Discogs. Yeah, pricey but it's in great shape and rare and yadda yadda. Sad day.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Rhys Chatham has been tweeting from the AR tour w Peter Gordon.
A friend asks who played on the version of "In The Light of The Miracle"on The World of Arthur Russell, but my copy of the Soul Jazz CD doesn't credit players on the track list (although a few are mentioned, for a few tracks, in the very conversational booklet). Does anybody know?
― dow, Saturday, 30 May 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link
As far as I know "In The Light of The Miracle" was originally performed by 'The Singing Tractors' – Arthur, Elodie Lauten, Mustafa Ahmed and Peter Zummo in 1982. The version on The World of Arthur Russell was produced by Steve D’Aquisto and Steven Hall and then mixed by Danny Krivit & Tony Smith.
― Goodoh, Saturday, 30 May 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
apart from Arthur -
Keyboards, Vocals – Elodie LautenPercussion – Mustafa AhmedTrombone – Peter ZummoVocals (Additional) – Julius Eastman
― stirmonster, Sunday, 31 May 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
Thanks guys! Somebody really needs to write a book about all this. Wild Combination is an excellent biodoc, but we need more about his life in music, the music-making process especially.
― dow, Sunday, 31 May 2015 03:38 (eight years ago) link
https://www.dukeupress.edu/Hold-On-to-Your-Dreams/
http://thequietus.com/articles/03425-review-excerpt-hold-on-to-your-dreams-arthur-russell-and-the-downtown-music-scene-1973-1992-by-tim-lawrence
― stirmonster, Sunday, 31 May 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link
Excellent, will pass that along too, thanks
― dow, Sunday, 31 May 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link
Excellent bio.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 31 May 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
Haven't had a chance to stream this yet:http://www.npr.org/2015/05/31/409801534/first-listen-arthur-russell-corn
― dow, Monday, 1 June 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
Finally got to the npr stream of Corn. Haven't done any comparative listening, but these versions are consistently perky, with the usual wide open spaces for contemplation (his "Buddhist bubblegum" ideal is not too far away). Demo-y at first, but several if not most are what a lot of people (quite possibly excluding AR, as usual) would consider good finished product. Faves so far incl. "Corn (Continued)," which got me up and dancing in headphones, and the finale, which sounds like he might've had Hendrix on his own headphones while playing.
― dow, Thursday, 4 June 2015 23:45 (eight years ago) link
WSJ Review of the BAM Concert:
The visionary musician and composer Arthur Russell was recently honored in the “Master Mix: Red Hot + Arthur Russell!” concerts at the Brooklyn Academy of Music.By Jim FusilliJune 2, 2015 5:31 p.m. ETBrooklyn, N.Y.
During a career that started four decades ago and lasted until his death at 40 in 1992, Arthur Russell seemed to anticipate several trends of today’s popular music. A composer and cellist who played several other instruments, Russell understood that musicians with disparate creative interests could occupy, however briefly, a shared space to work together; that the avant-garde need not shun a rock following or the pursuit of popularity; that the line between rock and dance music was an artificial commercial construct; that folk-based music could withstand nontraditional arrangements; and that the use of electronics would provide textures and inspiration for musicians driven to create rather than follow. Some of the most vital contemporary music embraces these philosophies, and many rock and pop fans profit from the result.
To say that Russell, who died from HIV/AIDS-related complications, foresaw the future doesn’t quite capture his achievement. What now seems an inevitable environment for adventurous, open-spirited musicians did not exist until he helped make it so. That Russell wasn’t embraced by a wide audience is a consequence of such inventiveness. But if he didn’t have a diverse peer group in popular music back then, he does now, as demonstrated by this past weekend’s “Master Mix: Red Hot + Arthur Russell!” concerts at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. Fueled by a ferocious house band, Friday evening’s show included performances by the folk musician Sam Amidon; the pop group Cults; Devonté Hynes, a funk-and-rock musician who records under various names; Richard Reed Parry of Arcade Fire; and the indie dance band Rubblebucket, among others. Together, they tapped into the many planets within the Russell universe of music.
At BAM, the performers swiftly revealed Russell’s democratic approach to popular music. With polyrhythms provided by Chris Vatalaro and Reinaldo de Jesus of Antibalas on drums and percussion, respectively, Jake Shears of Scissor Sisters and Kalmia Traver of Rubblebucket kicked off the show with a disco medley. Tenor saxophonist Stuart Matthewman, formerly of Sade and now with the jazz duo Twin Danger, joined Cults for a hefty “Planted a Thought,” which hadn’t grown much beyond the demo stage when Russell recorded it. A versatile five-piece horn section led by Stuart Bogie added appropriate and thoughtful support throughout the evening; in Thao Nguyen’s bluesy reading of “Nobody Wants a Lonely Heart,” it framed her voice with Mr. Bogie’s clarinet and Ms. Traver’s baritone sax.
The Iowa-raised Russell’s folk compositions for voice and guitar are an endearing mix of fragility and resolution. Discarding Russell’s arrangement, Mr. Amidon played banjo as he sang “Lucky Cloud” with Mr. Parry on upright bass and Rebecca Foon on cello. Later, Redding Hunter strummed chords on electric guitar as he softly sang a bittersweet “Close My Eyes.” Mr. Parry’s reading of “Just a Blip,” accompanied by the warmth of upright bass, cello, bass harmonica, tuba and baritone sax, was one of the evening’s most exquisite moments.
The richness of Russell’s catalog grew more evident as the evening moved on. Mr. Hunter led the ensemble in a solemn reading of the gentle “You Can Make Me Feel Bad” that felt like a finale, but then the musicians returned to their instruments for a rousing “Wild Combination,” a disco number that drove members of the audience to dance gleefully in front of the stage. With Ms. Foon’s cello and Mr. Parry’s bass offering a supple introduction, Mr. Amidon and Laurel Sprengelmeyer, who performs as Little Scream, sang “Keeping Up,” which seemed to contain all of Russell’s colors in one joyous, poignant number.
Russell’s music is enjoying an extended period of revival. He was the subject of Matt Wolf’s clear-eyed documentary “Wild Combination: A Portrait of Arthur Russell,” released in 2008, and his music provided the soundtrack to Ira Sachs’s 2012 film “Keep the Lights On.” There are many worthy Russell compilation albums, including “Corn,” which will arrive next week on the Audika label, the loving custodian of his huge collection of previously unreleased material. He was the subject of an album in the Red Hot Organization’s series that raises funds for HIV/AIDS relief and awareness; the 2014 tribute to Russell, which has the same title as the BAM shows (minus the exclamation point), includes performances by José González, Glen Hansard, Hot Chip, Phosphorescent, Robyn, Sufjan Stevens and others. If it seems like Arthur Russell’s time has finally arrived, it’s worth remembering it was in plain sight all along.
Mr. Fusilli is the Journal’s rock and pop music critic.
― dow, Friday, 5 June 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't blown away by Corn when I first heard it but I'm really liking it now, in case anyone was wondering
― paolo, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
Also does anyone know what's up with the letters and numbers code on the insert? Someone (presumably Arthur himself) wrote a bunch of words with numbers beside them eg:
B 2I 9G 7
C 3O 6R 9N 5
For the letters A-I it's an A=1, B=2 code but I can't work out what's going on past the letter I. Said code also appears on the insert that comes with Calling Out Of Context
― paolo, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
A1 R9 T2 H8 U3 R9 R9 US S1 S1 E5 L3 L3
(from Calling Out Of Context)
― paolo, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
Corn is easily my favourite release with Arthur Russell's name on it.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
Oh I just realised the code only uses the digits 1-9. So J=1, K=2. I was never that good at maths
― paolo, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
really? i love it and it has it my new favourite ever version of "let's go swimming" on it but i can't ever see it being my favourite.
― stirmonster, Friday, 12 June 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link
mmhmm see my brother on this is so out of sight, like the most futuristic thing i have ever heard him do
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
first time i listened to corn i accidentally had side 2 on at 45 and was marvelling at arthur pre-empting auto tune techniques by over a decade before i realised. i quite like his voice at 45.
― stirmonster, Friday, 12 June 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
really stirmonster, better than the costal dub? only by a hair surely
― wherewasyou, Monday, 15 June 2015 03:36 (eight years ago) link
Yeah. Good stuff on here but it does feel like odds n' ends. Nothing I'd call "definitive".
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 15 June 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link
First few tracks like sketches, but gets better (more vivid, detailed sketches at least) as it goes along. So not too odds 'n' ends, far as I'm concerned.
― dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link
Of course it's an album assembled by other hands, but works well enough as such, I think.
― dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 04:28 (eight years ago) link
perhaps it's the shock of the new. or the new old, rather.
― stirmonster, Monday, 15 June 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link
I'm not quite sure why it's my favourite. I do like a lot of his other music - albeit some a lot more than other - but this doesn't feel like it's as rooted in one genre as some of the other albums/compilations. Like, even at their most boundary-pushing, they never feel like quite as seamless or instictive as this one seems to feel to my ears.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link
Unreleased Arthur Russell!!! Rub those peepers again, pal, this indeed features the previously unreleased versions for Arthur Russell's Loose Joints classic, 'Is It All Over My Face' (1980, West End). A-side holds Kon's fe/male duet mix and an unreleased single female vocal version; flipside sports the original full length version, all 12 minutes of it, from humid intro to a beaming outro with a much more psychedelic, smudged middle. TIP!
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/1058393-loose-joints-is-it-all-over-my-face-unreleased-original-version
― paolo, Thursday, 16 July 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link
Cool remix of "Hop On Down"https://soundcloud.com/cocktail-damore/hop-on-down-massi-ext-edit
― Michael F Gill, Saturday, 1 August 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
The complete Loose Joints singles to be issued on vinyl
Arthur Russell's disco group is the subject of a triple-vinyl set out on Record Store Day.
Loose Joints' Pop Your Funk: The Complete Singles Collection will be released on vinyl via West End Records for Record Store Day.
The tracks Arthur Russell created for Loose Joints are among his most enduring, dance floor-ready productions. The group has been the subject of various rounds of reissues courtesy of West End, but this coming April version is for the completists, taking its basis from a 2013 Japan-only CD set. Included across six sides are six versions of "Is It All Over My Face," among them Larry Levan's original "Female Vocal Version" and two 2001 remixes from Masters At Work. The Record Store Day release also includes various takes of the group's other singles, "Pop Your Funk" and "Tell You Today."
Tracklist A1 Is It All Over My Face (Original 12-inch Version) A2 Pop Your Funk (Original 12-Inch Version) B1 Pop Your Funk (Original Single Vocal Version) B2 Pop Your Funk (Original Single Instrumental Version) B3 Is It All Over My Face (Original 12-Inch Larry Levan Female Vocal Version) C1 Tell You Today (Original 12-Inch Vocal Version) C2 Tell You Today (Original 12-Inch New Shoes Edit) D1 Tell You Today (Original 12 Inch Instrumental Version) D2 Is It All Over My Face (Masters At Work Remix) E1 Is It All Over My Face (MAW Joint Dub) E2 Is It All Over My Face (Unreleased Single Female Vocal Version) F1 Is It All Over My Face (Unreleased Original Full-Length Version)
West End Records will release Pop Your Funk: The Complete Singles Collection on April 16th, 2016.
http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=33345
― paolo, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link
west end records majorly milking it now.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link
lol and it STILL doesn't have the 15-minute "Tell You Today" afaict
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link
xpost agree
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link
My how 11 years have flown by since I started this thread. Crazy.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link
12 years!!
12 years!!!
and it STILL doesn't have the 15-minute "Tell You Today" afaict
pretty sure it doesn't which does seem like they missed a trick as plenty of us suckers would have bought the whole package just for that.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
Is F1 the one that was on the Loft box set?
― dan selzer, Thursday, 11 February 2016 05:47 (eight years ago) link
Looks like it
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Thursday, 11 February 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link
cool! http://pitchfork.com/news/65766-arthur-russell-archives-acquired-by-new-york-public-library/
― just sayin, Saturday, 28 May 2016 05:35 (seven years ago) link
yeah rly wonderful news
― schlump, Saturday, 28 May 2016 07:08 (seven years ago) link
Ben Ratliff on the archives and AR's working methods: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/arts/music/arthur-russell-archives-new-york-public-library.html
― one way street, Saturday, 28 May 2016 09:38 (seven years ago) link
All the tapes will be digitized and cataloged as well — a process that may take as long as a year, according to Jonathan Hiam, the library’s curator for the project — but then will be available for onsite listening.
Wonderful news indeed
― paolo, Saturday, 28 May 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link
I got the reissue of Tower of Meaning and frankly I don't think it's very good
― paolo, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
Maybe I just don't know enough about minimal modern classical but I've listened to it about ten times or so and I just find it boring. I'll persevere though
― paolo, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
i like it a lot when i'm in the mood. soundtrack-y, meditative, dry, stately.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
I listen to "Instrumentals" way more often.
― spastic heritage, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
"Instrumentals" is really accessible and fun! "Tower of Meaning" is a lot less user-friendly, I haven't really had much success at engaging with it.
― ǂbait (seandalai), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, the only Arthur Russell stuff I've really spent some time with is the First Thought Best Thought and the 'Tower of Meaning' commandeering disc two of the set made it so disc two rarely gets played in my house.
― Austin, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link
tower of meaning feels static and monolithic, but there are some beautiful and v characteristic moments, whiffs of his phrasing, you can imagine him singing it. even in the slower bits some of the changes/intervals/shifts in harmony are gorgeous, the moments are sudden and transitory but sometimes very affecting
I'm v glad he discovered disco and much nimbler phrasing and rhythm but it's really interesting to hear how distinctively arthur russellish something so different like this can sound
― ogmor, Friday, 22 July 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
BBC radio documentary: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07wbtsz
― ǂbait (seandalai), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
The doc has its own musical qualities, with no lack of astute clarity. Very refreshing, thanks!
― dow, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link
i enjoyed that doc. it's always fun to see what will be the first piece or arthur music played in a piece like that given that he has no signature music whatsoever and it felt like an introductory piece. what first impression do you make for him?
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 29 September 2016 08:25 (seven years ago) link
Do What I Want: Selections from the Arthur Russell Papers Mar 1—May 14, 2017
Peruse Russell’s notes and scores, listen to never-before-heard tapes, and delve deep into the electronic music pioneer’s creative process. These materials are on display for the first time to the public through the generosity of Tom Lee (Russell’s partner).
http://www.bam.org/visualart/2017/arthurrussell
― Position Position, Friday, 24 February 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link
Sasha F-J on Arthur, incl. current events:http://www.villagevoice.com/music/the-infinite-worlds-of-arthur-russell-9895575
― dow, Friday, 21 April 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
If anyone has Amazon Prime, the Arthur Russell documentary (which is lovely) can be streamed there for free:
https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Combination-Portrait-Arthur-Russell/dp/B00J97MNHI
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTU4MzI1OTczMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTc3ODIwMg@@._V1_UY268_CR4,0,182,268_AL_.jpg
― Soundslike, Friday, 21 April 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
ty for this, dowhad no idea until an offhand mention at the bam thing last night that the recent audika thing wasn't just a reissue of the first thought last thought recordings& had no idea until this piece that it's bob babbitt on bass on kiss me again !
― schlump, Monday, 24 April 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link
I'm fairly sure that the Instrumentals reissue is the same as First Thought Best Thought but without Tower of Meaning included. It's a mixed bag for sure. Instrumentals vol 1 is some of his best work - upbeat and summery but not disco, a bit like In The Light Of The Miracle. The rest of it is minimalist modern classical in the same style as Tower Of Meaning
― paolo, Monday, 24 April 2017 09:45 (six years ago) link
I gather from reading the Pitchfork review of the latest release of Instrumentals that Audika remastered the tapes for Instrumentals again, but that it is the same collection of recordings (less Tower of Meaning, released separately).
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 08:15 (six years ago) link
that Instrumentals release is so very good when you fancy a bit of winsome chamber Americana without the horrible reedy vox that usually blight most of this type gear for me. Probably selling it short here like, cos it is really excellent.
― calzino, Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link
there's an arthur russell tribute show here in pdx on the 21st. i should probably check it out!
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
o man that sounds awesome, that's Sunday huh? I should come up.
I once saw Rebecca Gates (Spinanes) cover "A Little Lost", my heart nearly stopped
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link
yeah it's at the, uh, holocene. i'm new in town so i don't really know anything else about it, but, you know, arthur russell.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link
thx
http://www.holocene.org/event/1463704-wild-combination-birthday-portland/
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Thursday, 11 May 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
DJ Set by Steve Knutson (Audika Records)
!!!!
Forthcoming expanded reissue of an excellent Allen Ginsberg album, one of the relatively few saving graces of mostly hideous 1970, incl. a bunch of tracks with Arthur, some of which (really good 'uns) were in the AG box Holy Soul Jelly Roll, but pretty sure that's OOP, and this has more:
ALLEN GINSBERG’S THE COMPLETE SONGS OF INNOCENCE AND EXPERIENCEEXPANDED AND REISSUED ON OMNIVORE RECORDINGS
Two-disc package, out June 23, marks first CD reissue of legendary album.Booklet includes unseen photos, new interviews with the original session musiciansby set producer Pat Thomas
I once saw Ginsberg do a gig at the Troubadour in L.A. He was doing Blake stuff. I thought, “This all connects.” —Van Morrison
LOS ANGELES, Calif. — Allen Ginsberg’s original 1970 MGM album Songs of Innocence and Experience, in which he sang the poetry of the English Romantic William Blake, will be released on CD and Digital for the first time, complemented by a second disc of rarities and previously unissued songs. The Omnivore Recordings expanded reissue will hit the streets on June 23, 2017.
Lester Bangs, writing in Rolling Stone magazine, said the album was “like a labor of love, a salute from a young visionary to an ancient sage.”
Complied by producer Pat Thomas (who also worked on the 2016 Ginsberg reissue The Last Word on First Blues, the forthcoming double CD package includes a new essay by Thomas, who tracked down several of the original musicians (never before interviewed) for this project, uncovering rare session photos as well.
Allen Ginsberg began “tuning” Blake’s poetry in 1968 (inspired by attending the tumultuous protests at that year’s Democratic Convention in Chicago), but the origin of the album dates back to a 1948 vision, or “auditory illumination” as Ginsberg called it, of Blake reciting poetry to him in his Spanish Harlem apartment. Moved by this, Ginsberg began to set Blake’s poetry to music. In 1969, he began recording the results with Peter Orlovsky and jazz legends Bob Dorough, Don Cherry, and Elvin Jones. Nineteen of those songs were released the following year as Songs of Innocence and Experience. In addition to the original LP, Omnivore’s set adds two previously unissued tracks: an alternate take and a song intended for the record but left off due to time constraints.
But that is not where the story ends. In 1971, Ginsberg returned to Blake, recording 11 songs in San Francisco with avant-garde cellist Arthur Russell — four of which were never issued. The ensemble also recorded three Tibetan mantras with a Buddhist choir, resulting in a full-on psychedelic East-West experience — also all previously unissued. This material comprises a second CD, truly making this Complete. With restoration and mastering from Grammy®-winner Michael Graves, the tracks sound timeless.
Blake’s writings from the late 18th century and Ginsberg’s interpretations from the 20th come full circle in the 21st century’s The Complete Songs of Innocence and Experience.
Track listing:DISC 1: SONGS OF INNOCENCE1. (a) Introduction (b) The Shepherd2. The Ecchoing Green3. The Lamb4. The Little Black Boy5. The Blossom6. The Chimney Sweeper7. (a) The Little Boy Lost (b) The Little Boy Found8. Laughing Song9. Holy Thursday10. Night
SONGS OF EXPERIENCE11. Introduction12. Nurses Song13. The Sick Rose14. Ah! Sun-Flower15. The Garden Of Love16. London17. The Human Abstract18. To Tirzah19. The Grey Monk
BONUS TRACKS:20. The Grey Monk (Alternate Take)*21. Brothels Of Paris*
DISC 2: BLAKE SONGS1. A Cradle Song2. The Divine Image*3. Spring*4. Nurses Song*5. Infant Joy6. A Dream7. On Another Sorrow8. Holy Thursday*9. The Fly10. The School Boy11. The Voice Of The Ancient Bard
MANTRAS12. Padmasambhava Mantra*13. Om Namah Shivaye*14. Roghupati Raghava*
* Previously Unissued(there's also a trailer for this, but I don't have the link)
― dow, Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
Here's one from the box: AG, AR, Dylan, Amram, Perry Robinson---Arthur plays his cello like a bass:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e8c6oDicpQ
― dow, Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
Pat Thomas's commentary in booklet for The Complete Songs:According to Tim Lawrence’s biography of Arthur Russell,Hold On to Your Dreams, Allen Ginsberg first saw Arthurplaying cello with the Kailas Shugendo Mantric Sun Band ina San Francisco park in 1971. Ginsberg recalled that Arthur“was wearing a strange composite Buddhist uniform, semi‑military, semi‑Mongolian.” The two men quickly bonded over“music, poetry, and Buddhism,” and they began playing musictogether—focusing on Ginsberg’s Blake adaptations. Accordingto witnesses, the blend of Allen’s harmonium and Arthur’s cellowas delightful, and they worked on Hindu devotional songs(bhajans) together as well.Alan Senauke: "Arthur Russell was young, a very good musicianand quiet—nothing assertive about him at all. You’d never imag‑ine this guy would become a figure in the avant‑garde or punkscene. There was great depth there that I didn’t get to see. Hewas very easy to work with."Allen asked Arthur to join him at recording sessions during Julyand August 1971, in San Francisco at Pacific High Studios.
Thomas also quotes AG producer (also rock writer and Beatles' Zapple label manager) Barry Miles's book In The Seventies for background on Arthur's situation at this point:Allen . . . wanted to tape more Blake songs as well as somemantras. For this we needed musicians and Allen made contactwith a Japanese Tantric Buddhist sect, known for their choir andinstrumentalists, who lived in San Francisco in an old house at2362 Pine. They were called Kailas Shugendo (Yamabushi) andpracticed fire-walking. Their leader was a stocky Mussolini-jawed Russian who spoke perfect English and claimed to havebeen in Tibet, though he was unwilling to tell me exactly wherein Tibet or to name any towns when I asked him. His followersknew him as Ajari or Vajrabhodi but he went under the name ofMister Warwick in the outside world (later Dr. Warwick).Their religious practices included running an ambulance rescueservice that specialized in fire-related incidents like getting peopleout of plane crashes and fires, as well as mountain climbing,playing country and western music and daily fire rituals of sev-eral kinds . . . I understood that Ajari came on much too strongfor most women, and those that were there were coupled upwith men in the group. Allen asked one of them if they had sex.She was driving us back to Grant and Columbus at the time.She turned her head from the road and looked Allen coldly inthe eye and said, “Well it’s Tantric Buddhism so it’s Tantric sex,you know.” Allen was very intrigued by the whole subject buther attitude showed she was not interested in saying any morethan that. Allen nodded knowingly, though he didn’t know andwanted to very much.Thomas continues:From this group of reprobates, Arthur Russell emerged. Hejoined up with Allen and played on the San Francisco recordingsessions that summer as well as the November 1971 First Bluessessions in New York, and soon moved there. Flutist JonathanMeyer remembers that: “Arthur Russell was involved in a quasi‑Tibetan Buddhist cult. We called him ‘Jigme,’ which is a Tibetanname (meaning ‘fearless’). Arthur was a very good cello player.He eventually dropped out of that cult.”There’s just over five minutes of the 1971 mantras in the Holy Soul,Jelly Roll boxed set, but since we’ve sourced the original uneditedmaster tape for this release, that five‑minute Padmasambhavamantra titled “Om Ah Hum Vajra Guru Padma Siddhi Hum”—which translates as “body speech mind diamond teacher lotus poweramen”—has been expanded into a soul‑searching, mind‑expand‑ing twelve minutes! (In addition, two more unreleased mantras inthe five‑ to six‑minute range are included on Disc 2.)Jonathan Meyer: 'I don’t remember what the source was forthe music that Allen was using for these mantras—if he gotthem from monks or what—but the whole thing was fun! Allendefinitively had a very nice musical sense. I think Allen justreally wanted to make a record."
― dow, Monday, 15 May 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
Those First Blues tracks with Arthur, mentioned by Thomas above, were incl. in last year's expanded AG reissue, The Last Word On First Blues.
― dow, Monday, 15 May 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
To clarify (and then I'll shut up about this), here's the tracks incl. AR on Ginsberg's Complete Songs of Innocence and Experience (out 6.23.17) DISC 2: BLAKE SONGS1. A Cradle Song2. The Divine Image3. Spring4. Nurses Song5. Infant Joy6. A Dream7. On Another Sorrow8. Holy Thursday9. The Fly10. The School Boy11. The Voice Of The Ancient BardMANTRAS12. Padmasambhava Mantra13. Om Namah Shivaye14. Roghupati RaghavaTracks 1, 5–7, 9–11 originally issued onHoly Soul Jelly Roll: Poems And Songs 1949–1993,Rhino R2 71693 (1994)Tracks 2–4, 8, 12–14 previously unissuedArthur Russell: celloJon Meyer: fluteAllen Ginsberg: vocals, finger cymbals, harmonium,Tibetan thighbone trumpetPeter Hornbeck: violin, violaJon Sholle: guitarAlan Senauke: mandolinReverend Adjari & Buddhist Chorus (Tracks 12–14)Tracks 1–11:Words by William BlakeMusic by Allen GinsbergTuned by Allen Ginsberg in Cherry Valley, N.Y. 1968Tracks 12–14:Old Tibetan Mantra(s) of PadmasambhavaTuned by Allen Ginsberg (presumably in San Francisco 1971)Produced by Barry MilesRecorded at Pacific High Studios,San Francisco, July–August 1971Master for Disc 2 was taken from a Scotch Tapebox inscribed: “Arthur Russell’s Copy – Allen Ginsberg”
― dow, Monday, 15 May 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
The Necessaries' Event Horizon reissued in September:https://www.bewithrecords.com/products/the-necessaries-event-horizon-lp#product
Russell's keyboard melody on "Driving And Talking At The Same Time" keeps popping up in my head out of nowhere very regularly, I'll get the reissue just for that song.
― willem, Thursday, 27 July 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link
That's great news. Awesome album cover, too.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 27 July 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
"More Real" on that is one of my fave Arthur tunes. Absolutely amazing and so shifty.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 28 July 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
A lot of unreleased stuff on this weeks RA podcast
Tracklist /Arthur Russell - Another Thought Arthur Russell - See Through Arthur Russell - Unknown/unreleased (from World Of Echo test pressing) Indian Ocean - Unknown/unreleased Arthur Russell – Unknown/unreleased (from World Of Echo Test Pressing) (Soon-To-Be Innocent Fun / Let's See??) Arthur Russell - Hiding Your Present From You Arthur Russell - This Is How We Walk On The Moon Jah Wobble / The Edge / Holger Czukay - Hold On To Your Dreams Lola - Wax The Van Arthur Russell - I Like You Indian Ocean - This Is How We Walk On The Moon (Unreleased version from Sleeping Bag Test Pressing TLX-3) Arthur Russell - Hop On Down Arthur Russell - You And Me Both Arthur Russell - Wax The Van (with extra dubbing by Dan Tyler) Loose Joints? - Let’s Go Play Baseball?? (Unreleased acetate) Loose Joints - Is It All Over My Face (Female version) Nicky Siano - Tiger Stripes (Re-Edit) Loose Joints - Tell You Arthur Russell - See My Brother, He's Jumping Out (Let’s Go Swimming #2) Indian Ocean - Schoolbell / Treehouse Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again (Unreleased Japanese version) Dinosaur L - Go Bang (Unreleased version from acetate) Loose Joints - The Only Usefulness (Unreleased acetate) Arthur Russell - Lucky Cloud Loose Joints - Pop Your Funk (7-inch version) The Necessaries - The Finish Line Indian Ocean - Untitled/unreleased (from Sleeping Bag Test Pressing) Arthur Russell - A Little Lost
https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=594
― I am using your worlds, Monday, 16 October 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link
Possibly the greatest RA podcast yet.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 16 October 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link
OMFG
― sleeve, Monday, 16 October 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
These unreleased tracks are SO GOOD
― paolo, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 07:51 (six years ago) link
yes they are!
― sleeve, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
yeah, pretty cool that there is still stuff this strong in the archives! this one sent me back to a very old beats in space show w/ some other unreleased stuff: http://www.beatsinspace.net/playlists/440
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
If anyone wants this to listen to on-the-go I can Dropbox it. They stopped the download facility on it.
― Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link
i would be into that ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
please.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
I'll upload it overnight and post the link tomorrow.
― Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
thanks. I subscribed on iTunes just for this but was too late for the d/l if there ever was one
― Jeff W, Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
There was for a bit.
― Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
As far as I can tell they changed it because they didn't want unreleased tracks to be available at a decent quality. I get and don't get the politics of that but I can't imagine it would apply to anyone here, regardless.
― Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
thank you thank you. this mix is incredible.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
That old Beats In Space show with Ted Knutsen is a gem as well
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 27 October 2017 08:12 (six years ago) link
Steve right?
― dan selzer, Friday, 27 October 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link
Steve! Yeah, it is great — that hip hop remix is awesome. Is there any more of that kinda thing floating around?
― tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
sorry, I forgot to post the link, here it is an an mp3
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 27 October 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
https://mega.nz/#!BmonTSBQ
https://mega.nz/#!BmonTSBQ!iguPx7jyWLTPEfLzs7b2b1VZ_QKzkOsh3I9AjrPKoyQ
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 27 October 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
thank, man!
― tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
Thanks so much Jed
― albvivertine, Friday, 27 October 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link
you're welcome!
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 27 October 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link
xp doh sorry Steve Knutsen, Audika dude.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 28 October 2017 08:20 (six years ago) link
Jed you legend <3
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 28 October 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
Just got a bandcamp notification about a new album called Iowa Dream. One song, “You Did It Yourself”, available now.
― Jeff W, Friday, 4 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
brilliant news. love the track. thanks!
― What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Friday, 4 October 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
Can't wait to hear this!
― Maresn3st, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
Presumably this is from a forthcoming album?
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
yes
― sleeve, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
Oops’ I see I misread. One of the tracks is out on Spotify already. Looking forward to Iowa Dream
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
on a separate note, I had no idea that Audika label head Steve Knutson has a long history of involvement with Tommy Boy and Wax Trax.
― sleeve, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
Nice!! Seems like this is gonna be Love Is Overtaking Me pt. 2
― J. Sam, Friday, 4 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
Love Is Overtaking Me is the only country album I've ever enjoyed
― paolo, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGtQASRq2Ak&feature=youtu.be
― sleeve, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
dammit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGtQASRq2Ak
― sleeve, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
ah, there are at least a couple other good country albums! even if i probably prefer bluegrass and/or western swing.
― Calpico Girlfriend (rushomancy), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
so hey, while this is being revived for other purposes, i'm just going to ask:
what's a good starting place with this dude? i had first thought best thought for a while and i really liked the first run of tracks on disc one, but the rest of it kind of lost me. i know he was kind of all over the place, ranging from house records to modern composition. i seem to recall hearing this one back during my tower records tenure, but i don't think i was quite hip to the vibe just yet. perhaps a revisit would be worthwhile in that case.
so, my question is: what's the one disc that will showcase the best representation of what makes his music awesome?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
well that comp (The World Of Arthur Russell) is the best place to start IMO
after that, I'd say maybe Calling Out Of Context? They are all pretty different
― sleeve, Friday, 4 October 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
Or the Another Though album perhaps?
― stirmonster, Friday, 4 October 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
I would say Another Thought and World Of Echo
― Maresn3st, Friday, 4 October 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
Or the Nick The Record RA podcast above
― paolo, Friday, 4 October 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
Well, it depends on what you're looking for; he was restless and at home on quite a range--for me, the gateway was The World of because I was looking for this guy, described in a blurb on the shrinkwrap: In The early 80s, Russell brought the avant-garde with futuristic music that inspired people like Phili[ Glass, Francois K, David Byrne and many more. He blurred the line between Disco, Classical, Jazz and Dub." Another blurb doesn't bother with the namedropping: "a thrill-a-minute collection of dubbed-out-disco, echo-laden acoustics, reverberating vocals and horns. Wonderful!"According to his bandcamp, the new album will have some of this approach and the "dream-bicycle" Great Plains jingle-jangle of Love Is Overtaking Me as well.
― dow, Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
brought the avant-garde to the dance floor, that is. He told Allen Ginsberg that he was going for "Buddhist bubblegum," though he went for several other things as well.
― dow, Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
Boy that's what I get for typing fast, sorry.
― dow, Saturday, 5 October 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link
world of Arthur, then world of echo. basically, the part of First Thought that you like is "Instrumentals" and has since been remastered and released on its own. it's great but not real representative.dang, how much more music is there?? new song is nice.
― maffew12, Saturday, 5 October 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link
The World of Arthur Russell is the World of I was referring to, sorry. yeah, Echo and Calling Out of Context and, out there for the field trips, Love is Overtaking Me, are my faves.
― dow, Saturday, 5 October 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
Strangely, I've taken to recommending the 'Wild Combination' documentary as a good intro to Arthur, because it really does convey a good sense of the boundless breadth and depth of his musical fascinations--as well as telling his story in a very emotionally compelling way (seen a number of folks who'd never heard of him in tears by the end, and who've gone out and bought albums thereafter).
Circa 2002, I used to foist CD-R copies of 'World of Echo' on people. So I'd have to advise people to start there, then probably 'World of Arthur Russell' and 'Another Thought,' then 'Love Is Overtaking Me' and 'Calling Out of Context,' then all the rest.
Excited for this new one, but a bit nervous about the "completed by" component--I think I'd rather have the unvarnished demos than things that are fairly sure to sound 2019 even if they're trying to sound 1974. But, I'm sure there will be moments of brilliance no matter what.
― Soundslike, Sunday, 6 October 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
Plus in the documentary, you get to hear Mimi Goese's beautiful rendition of an AR song called 'Time To Go Home Now', which has yet to emerge from the archives (if it was even recorded at all), I got so curious about the song I asked Tim Lawrence, who drew a blank, so I then approached Mimi (via Facebook) about it and she wrote me this back -
hey,thanks for your interest in arthur the magnificent. dick connette (he used the name A. Leroy) and I worked together in the 80's. I forwarded your request to dick and this is his reply:Arthur Russell was a friend and musical colleague of mine going back to the late seventies. Mimi and I wrote and performed together for a while in the late eighties and early nineties. I asked Arthur if he had any songs that he would like us to do and he handed me lead sheets and home solo recordings of two - "Canvas House" and "Time To Go Home Now," both of which we played in public. It was only later, I think maybe even after Arthur died, that I discovered that, apparently, Arthur had written them both especially for us. I was retrospectively touched and honored.
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 6 October 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Great to know, thanks! Wonder if he did that for anybody else? Speaking of other people performing AR, Master Mix: Red Hot + Arthur Russell has quite a harvest, via Blood Orange, Robyn, Lonnie Holley, many others (2 CDs)Wild Combination is worth getting on DVD for the extras, and speaking of Tim Lawrence, Hold On to Your Dreams: Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973-1992 should be useful and entertaining, judging by his first book, Love Saves the Day: A History of American Dance Music Culture, 1970-1979, which I'm reading now.
― dow, Monday, 7 October 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link
That's a lovely anecdote Maresnest, thanks for sharing.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 7 October 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link
Thanks, it's such a lovely track, and crucially placed in the documentary just after Arthur passes away, with slow-motion shots of wheat fields iirc, very sad and beautiful, it really haunted me.
On a happier note, Mimi's record 'Soak' from which it is taken, is brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3dNllTzIA
― Maresn3st, Monday, 7 October 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link
wow, I have to rewatch that movie. I can't remember if I heard Tell You Today before I heard Robyn's version. Both are amazing.
― maffew12, Monday, 7 October 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
holy moly I am a big Hugo Largo fan but never knew any of this, it's been over a decade since i watched that documentary
― sleeve, Monday, 7 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
thank you everyone for your responses. andy was working on recording all weekend so i just now came back to this wealth of information and well-considered recommendations. have ordered world of echo and world of arthur russell and very much looking forward.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 7 October 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
i got world of echo from amazon, so it came with the "autorip" dealie. jammin` it now and i was just wondering if anyone knows what actual galaxy he was from? because i can say with a good amount of confidence it wasn't this one.
album is one of the most unique things i've ever heard. correct me if i'm wrong, but this is just him playing cello through various effects and singing, right?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
got my copy of the world of arthur russell in the mail yesterday and have been enjoying it greatly during this morning's commute. i remembered exactly 0% of what this sounded like, so it's essentially new to me. really fine stuff; totally different from world of echo lol. very cool to have a peak into what must have been a really interesting scene at the time. really like 'in the light of the miracle' especially. i love the vague liquid liquid / esg / 99 records vibe it has.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
Yeah, and I like "Waxing the Van" too---no metaphor there, far as I can tell: he's just waxing the van all over his face in the light of the miracle.
― dow, Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
You gotta be clean on your bean in order for that hat to stay on.
― Wallet Youth (Craig D.), Saturday, 12 October 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
Got home to a copy of 'Iowa Dream' in the mailbox--so excited for more Arthur. If this turns out to be even half as good as 'Love Is Overtaking Me' I'll be thrilled.
― Soundslike, Friday, 15 November 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link
Mine should arrive tomorrow. Excited.
― stirmonster, Friday, 15 November 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link
it sounds good:https://daily.bandcamp.com/2019/11/15/arthur-russell-iowa-dream-review/
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 15 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
Some of it is startling. Just when you think maybe you're acquainted with the length and breadth of his output, more amazing things appear.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 15 November 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
Yeah, whole thing is now on bandcamp (I pre-ordered CD, ain't sorry)https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/iowa-dream
― dow, Friday, 15 November 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
this is lovely. jeez how much more could there be?
― maffew12, Friday, 15 November 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
this is unbelievable. absolutely enthralled by it.
― ripersnifle, Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
agreed. is there anything this guy couldn't do? title track is just joyous, bursting with life
― Book Doula (sleeve), Sunday, 17 November 2019 03:01 (four years ago) link
this is nuts. I don't know anything about the state of the archives, but how is this stuff just coming out now? For me this is much better than Love Is Overtaking Me. Just wow. Gorgeous.
― maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
It's fascinating to see where his head was at before punk/disco and all the rest.
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
This is $10.99 on CD at Deep Discount, FYI (deepdiscount.com) vs. $14.98 on Amazon (I'm not a shill, I swear!). This is one of those select releases where I'm resisting the temptation to listen on streaming before I can hear it for the first time on non-lossy media.
― ernestp, Monday, 18 November 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link
How fresh and 'of now' can recordings of thirty odd years sound. Genius.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
words of love is my favourite after one listen through
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
Moderator request to pls change the thread title to Ok . MORE Arthur Russell (It's all Great)
― willem, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 09:26 (four years ago) link
"She's walking to the train, I think I hear it, she's walking to the train, I think I hear it." Word--so much quiet momentum here, so much in it, so far I can only listen in maybe 15-20 minute segments: a kind of miniature box set effect, unique in my experience (whole thing is timed at 62:04 by my veteran Sony boombox)listening also on plain ol' Koss UR-40 headphones). Re lossy, meant to do comparative listening w stream, but haven't yet---bandcamp should be fine, though, as it usually is (for my Koss, anyway).re jeez how much more could there be?, a friend of mine was a neighbor of his, and often saw him walking around with big studio headphones plugged into his Walkman, and my friend refrained from saying hello or even nodding, because Arthur always looked like he was in or past the middle of something, really really coming to a big decision---though this went on for years, and we now know that he would frequently end up doing yet another mix, or starting over with the recording, and/or putting the material away and going on to something else---in between walking around and around New York, listening---and driving his label crazy. So there could be a lot more.
― dow, Thursday, 21 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
Beautiful post dow <3
I can just picture him running around, seemingly always on an Important Mission.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
80% still unheard http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/778
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Thursday, 21 November 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
evidently he was always on an Important Mission
― maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link
I'm going to have to give this another shot, my first listen I couldn't do it; there just didn't seem to be much of a spark there.
― akm, Friday, 22 November 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link
Sadly, I'm with you akm.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 22 November 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link
I'm with most of you; this album is absolutely destroying my world. I remember reading an interview with Steve Knutson around the time Corn came out where he basically said everything from the archive worth releasing had already been released. Unbelievable, then, that in 2019 Audika drops a folk-mode Arthur Russell comp that's even better than Love Is Overtaking Me. It's also great that Come to Life finally has a proper home. I've been obsessed with that song for 10 years, probably my favorite AR track after Wild Combination. The credits also reveal who did those angelic background vox--Mihr'un' Nisa Douglass, whose only other credits appear to be singing on Van Morrison's Inarticulate Speech of the Heart (which has sent me on a tangential early-80s Van kick) and the 25th Anniversary performance of Terry Riley's In C.
― J. Sam, Friday, 22 November 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
There's also this awesome thread of clear-headed psychedelia permeating Iowa Dream, especially on the mid-70s tracks like Everybody Everybody, Iowa Dream, Come to Life, etc.-- a kind of surreal childlike wonder + oblique, cyclical chord progressions over propulsive rhythms. It's a zone I could live in forever. And You Are My Love has brought me to tears more than once--such a sweet, direct love song that's sentimental in the best ways possible. Also Barefoot In New York is so wild and weird and hilarious. I'll stop raving now, but if you're on the fence about checking this thing out, DO IT
― J. Sam, Friday, 22 November 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
...a kind of miniature box set effect, unique in my experience...
― dow, Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
This is OTM
― J. Sam, Friday, 22 November 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
you speak well to the zone
― maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
:)
― J. Sam, Friday, 22 November 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
re AR walking around and around, dressed as The Decider etc., and the artistic payoff still emerging, I'm especially struck by this but in Jenn Pelly's review:In “You Did It Yourself,” Russell seems to be experiencing yet another moment of endearing self-sabotage (“You did it yourself/It keeps you down”) and also reflecting on a “thrilling” film he saw “last night”: “Understood all of it very well/I didn’t like the ending though/Maybe I’m crazy but it just seemed tacked on.” The pieces of his sung critique stream by like a river. Russell was prone to the unresolvable, to the nonlinear, to atmosphere over concrete. The miracle of his catalog is how the seams mend together, stitch by stitch, a different way forward, as if creating no “endings” for himself
But also, becoming ace at envisioning daily deaths of the heart, as in the killer finale, "In Love With You For The last Time," though of course you gotta come back to life for another last time, in his cycles especially.
― dow, Friday, 22 November 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
this *bit* in Jenn Pelly's review, which I meant to link:https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/arthur-russell-iowa-dream/
― dow, Friday, 22 November 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
Unreleased Loose Joints instrumental and acapellas for RSD 2020
https://aboveboarddist.co.uk/rsd-2020-loose-joints-is-it-all-over-my-face-40th-anniversary-inc-masters-at-work-kon-remixes-west-end-records/
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link
wish they would release "Let'd Go Play Baseball" from that insane mix linked upthread, but this is pretty cool even if it's just all versions of 1 tune
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:08 (four years ago) link
still being knocked out by Iowa Dream, so great.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
Me too. It's just as good as Love Is Overtaking Me
― paolo, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link
This may be a silly question, but how is it possible for labels to still be putting out 'new' Arthur Russell material (or indeed material from other artists that was recorded decades ago)? Are there just loads of recordings sitting around that nobody's got around to releasing, or are there legal issues involved, or do they not think that there's a market for this stuff?
― paolo, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
w/r/t Russell in particular, Steve Knutson has the rights to the archives and there is still a ton of unreleased material from what a friend who knows him tells me
weirdly it seems like the Loose Joints stuff and some other things are via Sleeping Bag and hav different rights situation as shown by the reissue linked in the revive
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link
Are there just loads of recordings sitting around that nobody's got around to releasing, or are there legal issues involved, or do they not think that there's a market for this stuff?i think audika doesn't want to just unload tons and tons of stuff — russell was notoriously protective of his music and they want to do it right.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link
yeah that matches what I've heard secondhand
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
yeah, i mean, it'd be nice to have more, but you can't argue with knutson's quality control so far.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
Agreed that Steve Knutson has done a great job.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 05:48 (four years ago) link
from Rolling Jazz 2020:https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/to-cy-lee-instrumentals-vol-1
The music of "To Cy & Lee: Instrumentals Vol. 1" contains naturally elegant orchestration wrapped around something visceral and primordial. Swirled inside the 11 pieces are shades of Japanese Min’yo folk, Celtic folk, the Ethio-jazz of saxophonist Getatchew Mekurya and hints of the pan-human ‘ancient music’ that sat underneath Arthur Russell’s melodies on First Thought, Best Thought. The music is filled with space, inspired, he says, by computer games and Japanese animation, particularly Joe Hisaishi’s.
this is exquisite
― calzino, Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:26 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
nice! was just going to ask about that one--it hasn't crossed my radar at all, but Mekurya, Arthur Russell, and Castle in the Sky are all among my favorite things and I didn't expect to ever see them grouped in a music blurb
btw, I don't care where we talk about IA, but there is this thread if you missed it: International Anthem: S/D
― rob, Wednesday, March 11, 2020
― dow, Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
live set from 1985 — sounds amazing. also sounds like there were maybe four people there. https://roulette.org/event/arthur-russell-2/
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
wow, thanks!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
God damn, this is beautiful, thanks so much!
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
it really is great!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
It really, really is, pity I there's no download option. I loved the 20 min video from Phil Niblock's flat that surfaced years ago and this has exactly that same atmosphere.
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
right-click and "save as", worked for me!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
yeah, you can "save audio as" and get the mp3
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
Wow, this is amazing, thanks for the heads-up--yeah, as long as I right-clicked on the timeclock, saving as mp3 worked for me
― Wallet Youth (Craig D.), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
Incredible find. I love this. Thank you for sharing here.
― Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
XXXP - Thanks guys, I was clicking the wrong bit of the player it seemed, got it now, awes!
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link
Oh my! What a wonderful thing; a revelation! So many of my favourite AR songs some in prototype form. I'm welling up listening to this and it was recorded on my 17th birthday which somehow makes it resonate all the more.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 26 March 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link
Yeah this is wonderful indeed.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 26 March 2020 06:50 (four years ago) link
just lovely
― Tib, Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:20 (four years ago) link
Amazing!
― paolo, Thursday, 26 March 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link
Marvelous, thanks so much for sharing tyler!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link
I saved it by going to the link via plain Chrome, no Incognito, and clicking on those three dots at after the audio icon--didn't even have to use Sound Pirate (which works in plain Chrome, that's why I went there that way).In case this goes away, here's the lowdown, for people of the future:
Arthur RussellSaturday, March 2, 1985. 9:00 pmThe influential and profoundly brave cross-genre artist (1951-1992) presented “The Deer In The Forest,” and other extended vocal compositions with his ubiquitous amplified cello.
Update 2019: With Peter Zummo, trombone, and possibly Elodie Lauten or Steven Hall on Casio keyboard. Considered early versions of songs that became more focused later. For example, Each Step Is Moving (around 7 minutes in), is substantially This Is How We Walk On The Moon, which wasn’t released until 1994, posthumously. In this concert Russell was experimenting with repeated phrases and lines, as if testing them out, which likely emerged later in more developed versions.
― dow, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link
of all the post arthur passing releases or shares- this is the one for me
― Tib, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
This live set plus World Of Echo and Another Thought are sure helping me deal with this bullshit
― paolo, Monday, 20 April 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link
tim lawrence's bio of arthur russell "hold on to your dreams" is quite good. pretty good balance of focus on his work vs. his personal life.
i wrote this tweet about one of my favorite revelations from the book:
I’m learning from “Hold On to Your Dreams” by Tim Lawrence that Arthur Russell collaborated with almost every NYC musician of the ‘70s and ‘80s, but I was still shocked by the reveal of this anecdote pic.twitter.com/HFypGCOhTS— n1ck amm3rman (@somelanguage) July 21, 2020
― na (NA), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
that's a wild one
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
oh yeah gary lucas posted the tape of that somewhere a while back, it's wild indeed
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
if you go to my tweet, there's a follow-up tweet with a youtube of the music they worked on together. it's pretty bad. some very basic stripped-down '80s beats from russell and terrible rapping from vinny d
― na (NA), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wet2Kla6c9c
― na (NA), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
vin is further from the pocket than chief keef
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
I had heard that story but didn't know that the recording was on YouTube. It's really not great.
― paolo, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link
Imagine if Arthur had worked with some rappers who were actually good...
As he co-founded Sleeping Bag Records he must have had the chance to consider working with some good rappers.
I also dream that there is an unreleased collaboration with Kurtis Mantronik languishing in a vault somewhere.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
he worked on something with kurtis mantronik but apparently they didn't mesh well
― na (NA), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
the lawrence book says they got together a couple of times and enjoyed talking about music but ultimately kurtis thought russell was too weird
― na (NA), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link
as i have read the book i have obviously completely and utterly forgotten all about this. I shall keep dreaming that it was actually the best thing ever.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
Oh man, this looks good, I didn't realise that more of this performance existed.
https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/sketches-for-world-of-echo-june-25-1984-live-at-ei
On an evening in late June of 1984, Arthur Russell lugged his cello down to Centre Street in Soho, to his friend Phill Niblock’s Experimental Intermedia Foundation, a large room in which sound searched for, and continues to find, new expression. Here, Arthur set up his equipment, which his companion Tom Lee remembers could be an excruciating process of plugging and testing and waiting. As contemporary listeners of Arthur’s ever-expanding catalogue, it’s perhaps easy to position this moment in terms of Arthur’s known trajectory—on this June evening, he was two years away from distilling this material into his solo opus World of Echo, and also from receiving the HIV/AIDs diagnosis that would cut short his vivid and restless musical career.
Harder than establishing a trajectory, however, is the task of entering Arthur’s labyrinthian musical mind. Sketches for World of Echo, Arthur’s live performance at Niblock’s space, now rewards listeners with an unprecedented chance. On this ethereal progression of songs which blend into one another almost hypnotically, their only punctuation a few coughs and some clapping at the end, we hear a thirty-three year-old laying out a kind of sonic draft for World of Echo, the only solo album he released before dying in this same city at age forty. Niblock remembers this rich stage of Arthur’s style acutely, and would capture it again, on a PCM recorder a year later in this same room, in the collaborative film Terrace of Unintelligibility. On this summer evening, though, Arthur experiments in real time with the effects of amplification on his 18th century cello, and with swinging his voice alternately between purposeful incomprehensibility and brief clarity. Snippets of lyrics rise from the performance thirty-six years ago, but often, Arthur decides to abandon clear language, and blends his voice with that of his cello, trying for an ongoing mesmeric atmosphere. Pieces of the future World of Echo float up briefly, namely in “Let’s Go Swimming.” A version of the ever-melancholic “Losing My Taste for the Nightlife” unfurls softly over the cello’s light rhythm. Meanwhile, the hovering, almost gilded stretch of cello-and-tape in the previously unheard “Sunlit Water” transports us elsewhere for more than ten minutes, a heavenly ending meditation. As ever with Arthur Russell, each new release pushes back our sense of this idiosyncratic, deeply imaginative composer’s horizon. Sketches for World of Echo now joins the rest of the music in Arthur’s huge and gorgeous ocean, into which he invites us to listen live for the first time, and to, in his words, go swimming.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 6 November 2020 09:15 (three years ago) link
Whaaaaaattt
― paolo, Friday, 6 November 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link
Oh my god thank you so much for posting this because it's given me a chance to cop the limited edition cassette. Not many copies so be quick people!
― paolo, Friday, 6 November 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link
Yeah thanks maresn3st, I copped one, too!
― willem, Friday, 6 November 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link
Hopped on top ofThis this morning
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 6 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link
Beautiful.
― stirmonster, Friday, 6 November 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link
good looking out, cheers
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 6 November 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link
grabbed one too. Didn't know about this performance at all. Gorgeous. Thanks Maresn3st
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 6 November 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
is this same as the Roulette set that was up earlier?
https://roulette.org/event/arthur-russell-2/
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 6 November 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
No, this new thing is a solo performance from a year earlier.
XXPs - welcome!
― Maresn3st, Friday, 6 November 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
about five minutes in and goddamn this is good
― tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
At first I luved drone monolith that suddenly slid into foreground of "Changing Forest," but, as tends to happen with naked drones, ones without guitars etc. I slid from caffeine to zzzz, however woke up and stayed awake for all other tracks, especially re the amount of thick crunchy sustain and sometimes fuzz bundled with outright cello, behind and within mellow vocal flexing; cello is lone voice, articulate as hell, on "Sunlit Water."But also, this was released last summer, news to me!Amazon customer review:
reviewer: plunderphonica5.0 out of 5 stars in the gentle undersea rhythms of a coral reef the Blue Tang displays his dreamy colorationReviewed in the United States on October 12, 2011This is a 4 track disc clocking in at 29:14. The first three tracks represent a reissue of the "Let's Go Swimming" twelve-inch single released on Logarhythm in 1986 [LR-1002-1]. "Let's Go Swimming (Gulf Stream Dub)" & "Let's Go Swimming (Puppy Surf Dub)" were on Side A. "Let's Go Swimming (Coastal Dub)" was on Side B.
The final track, "Make 1,2 (Gem Spa Dub)" is a previously unreleased 11:09 version of a song which appeared a few years ago on Calling Out Of Context. On that album, it was a 2:50 window into Arthur's world. This echoey, throbbing behemoth was recorded sometime between 1986-1990 and it is a gem.
This release comes with an insert. It's a six panel fold-out b/w poster of Arthur lying in the sand on a beach, bundled up against the cold, and completely absorbed in the act of singing into a microphone.
There are no liner notes. Inside the gatefold, there are some limited production and session details.
In his book "Hold On To Your Dreams," Tim Lawrence quotes Simon Reynold's Melody Maker review of LR-1002-1: "This is impossible dance music, jumbling your urges, making you want to move in ways not yet invented, confounding your body as it provokes it. In its tipsy mix, I seem to hear Can, Peech Boys, Thomas Leer, Weather Report, hip hop, but really this is unique, original, a work of genius."
As Audika Records moves forward by looking back into the Arthur Russell archives, I hope they'll release a similar package focusing on the various mixes and versions of Dinosaur's "Kiss Me Again" from 1978. If they have control of that song, that is. If not, then I'll settle for a massive box set compiling all 40 "Let's Go Swimming" tapes! There must be a killer country version lurking lurking in a drawer somewhere...
― dow, Friday, 6 November 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
yeah that's Let's Go Swimming EP is sublime, I have it on vinyl
"Sunlit Water" is flat out incredible on this new one, all-enveloping and gorgeous
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
xp it's this:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51rus11Kg5L._SX355_.jpg
Let's Go Swimming by Arthur Russell
Apparently a 2020 reissue of 2011 set. Is this expanded from the 2011 edition of 1986 original?2020 details:Manufacturer : AUDIKADate First Available : July 21, 2020Label : AUDIKAASIN : B01JT57J7S
― dow, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
yes I believe Make 1/2 is a bonus but not 100% sure
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
O hell, it's on here with allll this, shoulda known:
https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/music
― dow, Friday, 6 November 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
dow you are asking a question that you already pasted an answer to
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
read your own posts, ppl
Dinosaur is owned by Warner I assume and may be a hassle.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link
The various Kiss Me Again mixes are up on Spotify since last year fwiw - https://open.spotify.com/album/1jDWFLM7HsGgVc4gh3ePbK
(not the same as a nice physical release I know)
― timber euros (seandalai), Saturday, 7 November 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
Another Thought is the one that you can't find on digital afaik
― timber euros (seandalai), Saturday, 7 November 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
xp are there more than two?!?!
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
Two additional edits of the two existing mixes
― I am using your worlds, Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
i love "Make 1,2 (Gem Spa Dub)" so much. absolutely love the line "Someone tried to call me up/But I don't even have a phone", i find it so evocative.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
"world of echo" is probably my favorite album of all time, but it's so tied to the summer for me that as a rule i don't play it after labor day. might have to take advantage of the warm weekend to listen to this; i wanted to wait until i can really give it my full attention for many hours.
― Cabo Weibo (卡波微博) (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 7 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link
whoa at “make 1,2 dub”, loved that track on calling into context
― brimstead, Saturday, 7 November 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
let's talk abt Sketches For World Of Echo here
No better thread to type it, I guess: every time I see people fawning over a new Arthur Russell thing that has been unearthed, I wanna scream we get it. you like your music fags to be dead. it makes the music so much more meaningful. thank you for reminding me. I feel like you're just rubbing it in my face at this point. "oh, haven't you heard the new Arthur? also, why don't you die? die, die, die."
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, December 13, 2020 11:46 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
A million times this.
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Sunday, December 13, 2020 12:47 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
And I too am a huge fan and rinse every new thing that is unearthed!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, December 13, 2020 12:50 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I honestly never thought of it like that, and although I'm really glad Knudson is doing that work I can see the point
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:18 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
but y'know dead artists sell, that's certainly true across the board
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:19 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
My thing with him, which obviously is coming from a less invested place but nonetheless, is how people seem really intent on reinventing an artist who was known as much for making (brilliant) dance music as an indie singer songwriter
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:20 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
well he was really fuckin good at both things tbh
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:22 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think Sault are good. Don’t have strong feelings abt it but do think it’s a bit 30 something record collector to make them the center of your musical universe but there’s nothing wrong w that per se and it’s a really well done version of it ? Idk
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:23 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
the LCD Soundsystem of the 2020s
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 3:22 PM (nineteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
Sure (tho I’d hesitate to pigeonhole his non dance work as “indie singer songwriter) but only one of those gets a real commercial emphasis (i guess ? Because that was what was on the tapes, regardless if there are good reasons for it or not it feels like it’s remaking his story a bit to me)
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
well there's also been releases like "Corn" and "Calling Out Of Context" that were "on the tapes" so idk about that
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:31 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
and he played in The Necessaries! ffs
sorry for derail
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:32 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he was good at everything basically
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:12 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Tbh his Echo demos are super-stunning, very pleased to have them in my earholes
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:16 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I was more just... surprised when I got Love is Overtaking Me, like no fuckin way this guy who was so good at dance music and experimental (modern classical adjacent? but basically the world of echo type stuff) could be that good at singer songwriter stuff....I almost kept thinking I was fooling myself, but those songs are just really good songs
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:20 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this thread is getting alarmingly positive
― Lily Dale, Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:22 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol otm
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:27 PM (0 seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
sorry for not editing out the Sault part of that
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
but seriously "Sunlit Water" is one of the most amazing things I have heard from this dude yet
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Sunday, 13 December 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
Christ that batch of comments is insufferable. Including the Sault parts. Is that from that thread with the bizarre definition of "hype" where it means "people like it but not me"?
'Sketches' is great (as was the other live performance from the era that was unearthed recently). He was the definition of sui generis--"indie singer songwriter" yeesh.
― Soundslike, Monday, 14 December 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
Let us never speak of that paste again---all yall know this year's treat, right?https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/sketches-for-world-of-echo-june-25-1984-live-at-ei Not to mention soooo much before it:https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/Arthur-Russell-The-Sleeping-Bag-Sessions/master/48677
― xzanfar, Monday, 14 December 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link
lol that was actually an interesting stretch of commentary ffs, relative to the “buncha 30+ dudes explain why they don’t like Taylor swift” thing goin down before
― brimstead, Monday, 14 December 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
still holding out for the loose joints album sessions (there was more recorded than just all those takes of “pop your funk” etc right?)
― brimstead, Monday, 14 December 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
^^ yes, including "Let's Play Baseball" and probably a ton of other awesome shit we haven't heard
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link
also LOL @ Soundslike and dow recoiling at any personal interpretation of music, those comments are about as far from "insufferable" as I can imagine and I am proud of my thread that provides a safe space for hate
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
No, my reaction wasn't re personal interpretations of music per se, and even if it had been, it wouldn't have been about your comments, which were good. Hey, my interps of music are personal all over the place!
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
Good to have threads mainly for venting, of course, but if I choose not to go to one, I'd rather not have it coming to me.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link
My comments weren’t really venting abt the music but how the later releases have kind of ended up marketing him to a different audience and in a different way than how i was exposed (via the world of Arthur Russell). Idk what’s so objectionable about that point
Also thought fgti’s point was interesting & is abt social context fucking w artists you otherwise enjoy
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 14 December 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link
wasn't objecting to anything in particular, was trying not to; never mind, instead of saying (trying to head off what seemed like sidetrack to big argument), "let us never speak of this paste again," I shoudna spoken of it at all, carry on upstream.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link
no worries! I primarily bumped this to talk abt how amazing the new release is, cuz that is not really what the hate thread is about
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Monday, 14 December 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link
Yeah, and "Sunlit Water" is one of my fave tracks this year, esp. in wintertime.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link
Doesn't The World Of Arthur Russell have Keeping Up and A Little Lost and That's Us on it also though, i.e. pretty much runs the gamut of his oeuvre?
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 07:20 (three years ago) link
yea for me this sketches for world is one of his most wowsers releases and shows yet another side to him - would love a physical release
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 07:51 (three years ago) link
That’s what I mean, it runs the gamut, the evolution of the releases veers much more strongly towards a little lost type records since that time though
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 08:39 (three years ago) link
Calling Out Of Context, First Thought Best Thought and Springfield were all released in the years after The World of Arthur Russell.
There wouldn't be so much of the Love Is Overtaking Me/Iowa Dream style music to release if Arthur Russell didn't make so much of it.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
Calling Out Of Context and The World Of came out at precisely the same time iirc, on two different labels (Soul Jazz/Audika), and covered vastly different facets of AR's output. Neither formed as an effective survey as Another Thought (which I think was compiled by Philip Glass? or at least he had something to do with it, and it came out a decade earlier)
Springfield was a series of unfinished singer/songwriter recordings that were completed largely by Chris Taylor of Grizzly Bear-- I think what inspired this completion and release was the appearance of (and positive response toward) AR's more s/s songs that were represented in Matt Wolf's documentary, that this particular corner of AR's discography was worthy of deeper examination
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
wait what
I think you meant some other release than Springfield there
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
(you did, Love Is Overtaking Me)
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
Another Thought was initially released by Philip Glass on his label in '94 but was compiled by Don Christensen.
Another Thought is for me the best collection of AR's music. People bandy about expressions about how a record "changed their life" and it is usually a wild exaggeration but that album really did change mine. I was a little lost when it came out and it gave me the inspiration and energy to change my life.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
Yep sorry xp
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
That could be an understatement xp. Woh oh.Wild to think of the compilation you could make now.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
Not saying what did or didn’t deserve close examination just that I ended up meeting a lot of people in my 20s and 30s for whom Arthur Russell was essentially a singer songwriter and had no idea he even made dance music and I thought that was weird
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
manys xps: fella from Audika is on the discogs page for Sketches saying that the cassette release is actually not limited (the bit on the bandcamp page about there only being 400 copes is now gone), yet it is sold out at the moment. Maybe it'll be back. He also said there's no plans for other formats right now.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
I ended up meeting a lot of people in my 20s and 30s for whom Arthur Russell was essentially a singer songwriter and had no idea he even made dance music and I thought that was weird
You thought that was weird because it is weird.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
Then again the first thing I think of with AR is "cello" so maybe it's not that weird?
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
I never thought of Another Thought as an "effective survey" as it doesn't really show the full on dance side. I think World of Came out before Calling Out of Context. In my memory it was Disco Not Disco that solidified Arthur Russell by re-highlighting the disco stuff (most of which had never dropped in it's classic status but wasn't seen as a part of a bigger whole) and introducing it to the new to dance music kids.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
xxxp So these were people who only knew Love Is Overtaking Me??I think from when I first started hearing about him, in the 80s, I got that he was like Eno, somebody who *could* sing and write songs, but just did whatever the fuck he wanted to---like even in Roxy, Eno became the one who textured the overall sound, and at shows might sit behind the soundboard, and start singing, upstaging Ferry, who was just up on stage, in the normie way---which might be why he didn't last in Roxy, also freaked out Tina Weymouth when Byrne brought him into the Heads---which might be one reason AR wisely declined to join that increasingly B. vs. W. enterprise (see also the book The Name of This Band is The Talking Heads)--but also he just wanted to record his own stuff and walk around listening to it and making more mixes and/or starting over, like we were talking about upthread. But, however he thought about it at any given point, LIOM and Iowa Dream are v. plausibly cohesive.I'm still glad that The World of Arthur Russell was my own gateway (I'd heard some other tracks before that, but).
― dow, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
Arthur Russell was recommended to me by Gruff Rhys who described him as a "folk singer", and yeah I was almost baffled when I picked up the World of Arthur Russell. There were a couple of tracks on there that loosely fit the description, so I figured that must be what Gruff was listening to.
Fwiw the one that made me completely obsessed was the First Thought Best Thought box, especially the Tower of Meaning piece.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
I am def really into all the posthumous releases but my favorite things of his happen to be the revords he put out while living, pretty much. I don't know if I would say they'e "better" or "more realized" or w/e.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
In my memory it was Disco Not Disco that solidified Arthur Russell by re-highlighting the disco stuff (most of which had never dropped in it's classic status but wasn't seen as a part of a bigger whole) and introducing it to the new to dance music kids.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, December 15, 2020 11:59 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
“Is it all over my face” was a standard old school dance track here at least, a song I knew before I had any idea who he was iirc. Unless I’m like, rewriting history in my head but I’m pretty sure I remember that even getting radio play in like, house music sets here
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
Yeah that’s my point. Is It All Over My Face and Go Bang were both certified disco/club classics that never went away, but not everyone was connecting those to the other stuff.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link
Reminds me---there's a repress of the 2010 Walter Gibbons anthology incl. his Dinosaur L mix of "Go Bang" and an AR-credited "Calling All Kids," and lots of other good stuff, (except for the Double Exposure clunker) I saw complaints about the original pressing, and my CD version doesn't sound so great either, although it does have some tracks not on bandcamp, but bandcamp sounds a lot better: https://waltergibbons.bandcamp.com/ And the ones not there are prob on YouTube etc. DL and AR are on the bandcamp version. Gibbons brings out the best in a good range of music, a good ear for Latin percussion, for inst.
― dow, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
remember when the documentary had jens lekman but no nicky siano
― worzel scampidge (||||||||), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 08:07 (three years ago) link
My first exposure to AR was "You Have Did The Right Thing When You That Skylight In" on a Wire Tapper CD and went and bought World of... immediately.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:22 (three years ago) link
anyone get that really nice arthur russell hat that ghostly put out? sold out by the time i saw it
it is with great regret that i must cop some new arthur russell merch pic.twitter.com/QMyy0V5Tx4— vm's stigmata (@voguememory) December 9, 2020
― dogs, Thursday, 17 December 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link
Oh boy, another live recording!https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/the-deer-in-the-forest-march-2-1985-live-at-roulette
Arthur Russell – cello + voice Elodie Lauten – keyboard Peter Zummo - trombone
― willem, Saturday, 26 December 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link
Now THIS is what I’m talkin’ about! Exciting!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 26 December 2020 08:55 (three years ago) link
Elodie Lauten looks like a super interesting person!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elodie_Lauten
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 26 December 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link
She is!
The Death Of Don Juan album, featuring Arthur is really good.
Her Transform EP is a big fave too.
is this AR recording any different to - https://roulette.org/event/arthur-russell-2/
― stirmonster, Saturday, 26 December 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link
It is the same recording, it started popping up in the springtime this year, at least on YouTube.
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 26 December 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link
...and on that page, first linked itt in March :)
― huge rant (sic), Saturday, 26 December 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
yes, i discovered it via here back then. just curious if there was any additional audio enhahcement etc. but i can hear it's the same. still wonderful.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 26 December 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link
It's great and has me doing boring admin duties while listening to Another Thought, sometimes I wonder if there's a better record.
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 26 December 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
The Death Of Don Juan album, featuring Arthur is really good.And here 'tis! Thanks for the news, stirmonster.https://unseenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/the-death-of-don-juan
― dow, Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
Someone web-mailed me from this thread with a query but forgot to leave their own email address. email me again with your return details, ta!
― 10percent Discocunt (jed_), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link
"Singing Tractors" from that Roulette set is so incredible, Zummo killing it on trombone
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link
UK label Unheard of Hope has announced a 7-inch series featuring artists covering their favourite Arthur Russell tracks.
Called Small Wonder, the series' first volume is out now. It consists of two tracks from Russell's 1986 album World of Echo ("Tone Bone Kone" and "All-Boy All-Girl") by the cellist's longtime collaborator Peter Zummo and Erased Tapes artist Peter Broderick, respectively. Future contributions are expected from Stereolab's Laetitia Sadier and Mexican multi-instrumentalist Mabe Fratti, among others.
In a statement, Broderick, who in 2018 put out an album devoted to to Arthur Russell songs, described how "All-Boy All-Girl" is one of his favourites. "I never thought to cover it before because, like most the material on the World Of Echo album, it is hard to pin down what exactly the song itself is. What is the song, what is the production, and what is the performance? It's all very amorphous, and I love that about it. When asked to cover an Arthur track for this project, I thought I'd finally give this song a try. And with the help of Mabe Fratti and her friend Sebastian Rojas, I hope we have created a worthwhile tribute to this song which has brought me to tears many times."
Describing his chosen track ("Tone Bone Kone"), Zummo explained how he opted for a group approach. "Just before the pandemic hit in March 2020, I had some concerts in the UK with Peter Broderick, Joe Carvell, Mabe Fratti and Sebastian Rojas. We played Tone Bone Kone as our encore. This recording builds on the live energy the group was getting into at the close of those concerts," he wrote.
https://ra.co/news/75253
― paolo, Friday, 30 April 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link
And you can buy the first one here - https://tinangelrecords.bandcamp.com/album/small-wonder-series-1-songs-of-arthur-russell
― paolo, Friday, 30 April 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link
They're OK but not really feeling them much if I'm being honest
IMHO it's fruitless task to cover anything from World of Echo.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:09 (two years ago) link
Fair enough--I do like getting to hear Zummo sing, though.
― Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:24 (two years ago) link
the tone bone kone cover is great.
― stirmonster, Friday, 30 April 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link
I realy like the all aboy/girl cover too.
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
Live recording of 24 to 24 at The Kitchen in 1979, Julius Eastman on organ too.
https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/24-to-24-music-live-at-the-kitchen
― Maresn3st, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:51 (two years ago) link
that's really great stuff
― bespoke sausages (seandalai), Friday, 1 October 2021 11:43 (two years ago) link
Really enjoying that----what's the deal w the 24->24 Music 2-CD? Also live? Also hot?
― dow, Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
not live, studio, it's basically this album:https://www.discogs.com/master/8344-Dinosaur-L-2424-Music
with a bunch of extra tracks from contemporaneous singles (but, weirdly, not "Kiss Me Again")
― chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Thursday, 9 December 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link
oh and it is also great ofc
― chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Thursday, 9 December 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
Excellent, thx!
― dow, Thursday, 9 December 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
Yeah, this is the one I was looking at:Sleeping Bag Records and Traffic Entertainment Group are proud to present his seminal work, 24->>24 Music expanded to a deluxe double CD box set issue. In addition to the music found on the original issue of 24>>24 Music this set includes rare 12 remixes and edits including the highly coveted Go Bang! (Walter Gibbons Mix) and the never before on CD You Can't Hold Me Down (Test Pressing Version). Both discs are housed inside beautiful full color sleeves that tuck into the extra durable box along with a 48 page booklet featuring unreleased photos by Janette Beckman and other Russell ephemera with words courtesy of Russell biographer Tim Lawrence.
― dow, Thursday, 9 December 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
Kiss Me Again was on Sire and thus is owned by Warner Brothers, who are never fun or cheap to license from.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link
either are sleeping bag. i tried to clear a sample from them and their reply was "this has no artistic merit. don't ever contact us again".
― stirmonster, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
oh shit. did you tell them their satin jackets didn't have artistic merit either? jk, those were cool.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
ha! well, it was Traffic Entertainment Group rather than Sleeping Bag per se. i'm sure Will Socolov, were he still involved would have been easier to deal with.
Anyway, i went ahead and released it anyway, but, shhhhhhhh......
― stirmonster, Thursday, 9 December 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
you’re in the clear, you weren’t allowed to tell them you’d done it
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 10 December 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link
:-)
― stirmonster, Friday, 10 December 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
Once again feeling very blessed to live in a world where Iowa Dream exists. Total desert island status for me
― J. Sam, Thursday, 14 April 2022 22:10 (two years ago) link
just got this crucial bootleg t-shirt in the mail:
https://www.turbo-island.co.uk/product/go-bang
― dan selzer, Thursday, 14 April 2022 23:38 (two years ago) link
that t-shirt is so classic.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 14 April 2022 23:41 (two years ago) link
Just now got the dee-luxe 2 CD xpost seminal work, 24->>24 Music, and starting to read Tim Lawrence's typically immersive Hold On to Your Dreams---Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973-1992, which, this being TL, swoops back to preWWII origins of Russell parents, who were outwardly on the better side of Iowa-typical in postwar boom, solid, prosperous, intelligent citizens of Squaresville, but also with quite a nurturing record collection (and child-raising practices, considering: Arthur in particular being quite a handful).
But I have a couple questions: the intro is also swooping ahead to (talking about all the early Downtown coverage, incl. books, in which AR is either barely mentioned or not at all, and why that may be, how much more of an outcat he was etc. in those scenes and social maps), and with several quotes, already, from Ernie Brooks, re the Flying Hearts sessions with John Hammond, who is said to have considered Arthur to be equal to or greater than his previous outcat discovery, Bob Dylan (AKA "Hammond's Folly," in early suits talk).
So my questions are: are there any Flying Hearts tracks around, that y'all have heard, other than the one with Ginsberg on Arthur's bandcamp, and if so, what do they sound like, and where are they?? (Also wondering about the Professionals albums, although have been told that at least one of them isn't so hot.)
― dow, Saturday, 23 April 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link
“What It’s Like” from Love Is Overtaking Me is credited to the Flying Hearts.
― J. Sam, Saturday, 23 April 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link
There are no other Flying Hearts tracks around though when Ernie Brooks toured with Peter Zummo's ensemble a few years back they performed another Flying Hearts song. At leaast one of the gigs was recorded but I don't think it has ever been made available.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 23 April 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link
I didn’t know that Wild Combination existed until I watched it a couple of nights ago. I knew next to nothing of Arthur beyond the music I’d heard so it was quite a revelation, to say the least. Tubi have it online for free https://tubitv.com/movies/349386/wild-combination-a-portrait-of-arthur-russell
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 23 April 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link
Probably discussed upthread, but I missed until now thwt 'Wild Combination' was reissued on blu-ray in 2018 on Oscil-o-scope, looked really good and had a sparse but enjoyable commentary track from Matt Wolf added.
― Soundslike, Sunday, 24 April 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
I think this is that same transfer, has the Oscil-o-Scope logo at the start and looks good HD quality.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 24 April 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link
xxp thanks for sharing! I have seen that but would be up for watching again
― paolo, Sunday, 24 April 2022 10:00 (one year ago) link
Was this posted before? https://www.ebay.com/itm/373167002625?hash=item56e27c9401:g:EH0AAOSweRpdnb8V#vi-desc-maincntrWhy you too could pretend to be Steve Knutson and burrow around in Arthur's work tapes, for the low, low price of just $15,000.00.It's insane to think there's still stuff sitting around gathering dust waiting to be heard, you can see pics of Dinosaur's long lost follow up to kiss me again - Dumbo Dumbo.
― Goodoh, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link
Wild. Do Zummo or Knutson or Peter Gordon or anyone know about this?
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link
i will ask the Peters. Wild!
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link
asking Knutson abt this rn via mutual friend
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
Knutson sez:“The eBay link is sent to me frequently by strangers and this is my generic response: ‘I am well aware of the auction.A year and a half ago the price was 100K.The good news is that Arthur kept everything. Every tape, notebook, press mention, receipt, harmonica, etc.It’s all in the archive (at Lincoln Center). I have two 2TB hard drives of his entire tape archive.After 9/11 Mark Freedman closed down his Battery Sound studio that was directly across the street from the World Trade Center. He cleared out the studio and moved his family to upstate New York.My understanding is that his tape archive was stored in an outdoor shed for a decade plus. After his death, his family took out a storage space for his possessions but eventually stopped payment. The locker was auctioned off to a local antiques dealer and it’s now on eBay.My spies have told that the material is in poor condition and weather beaten. The majority of the material is of Mark’s own recordings.Whoever ends up with it will only own an artifact. They will have no commercial rights as all rights are held by the estate. If challenged, the Arthur Russell estate is already prepared legally.’”
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link
Doubleplusgood.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
Right on!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
PZ says:
Hello, thank you for sending this. I wonder if one could bid on selected bits? I don't know what of mine it would be. Lateral Pass (and song IV trio) were done there, on quarter inch. Also material for Newark, the Trisha Brown piece with Donald Judd. That was all bagpipes, maybe some Fairlight synth. I can't think of anything else right now. I'll forward this to Ernie Brooks, he'll be interested.
I'm in London, playing The Standard Hotel on Sunday with quartet.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 09:21 (one year ago) link
So, according to what xpost Ernie Brooks and others told AR biographer Tim Lawrence, looks like most(?) of their studio demos were for John Hammond, so maybe at least some of that still exists in the bowels of Sony-Columbia, unless there's a copy in the xpost Audika 2T drives, more likely the gig recording, I guess. But then Arthur announced he was going to Italy to join Le Orme; and take them to their contemplated next phase---he thought, but most of them rejected him, for being an outsider, not one of their crowd, and for being outsidery as hell also, maybe. Then he consoles himself via recording with---Jennifer Warnes! The right kind of pop person, who had already worked with Leonard Cohen and had a hit with "It's The Right Time of The Night," a "slushy song," as Lawrence says, but conveying that luminous blonde Cali muse incense and peppermints innocence that she plausibly believes he craved, going back to his West Coast girl-loving roots, but also trying to go forward, into thee pop mystic, that he was trying to find himself, with each part he wrote and taught to her (she didn't read music). Sure hope Audika's got that too, doesn't say if a label was involved.
― dow, Saturday, 30 April 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link
Jennifer Warnes sings on "That's Us/Wild Combination", "Keeping Up" and “My Tiger My Timing”.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link
Thanks! That's one of the main reasons I read bios of musical adventurers, to improve my sense of long and winding discographies (is there a Hendrix book for this? David Henderson's is excellent, far as it goes, but don't think he's updated it for so estate machinations since)From comments for several ballots, one of my Top Tens:
Arthur Russell, Live 24 to 24 Music: Live at the KitchenYeah 00:00 / 01:06:53: That's it, one seamlessly interweaving banger--dunno how much is through-composed, but it's all very conversational, with 0 chatter, though some clatter, of Mustafa Ahmed's congas, Jeff Berman's drums, Rome Neal's percussion--times Larry (formerly of Desmond Child and Rouge*) Salzman's guitar, as Peter Gordon's tenor sax crackles and Peter Zummo's trombone hums and holds and (you know it) slides along(the maestro doesn't sing, plays "Pizz Cello" upfront for first 7 minutes at most, then dives to bass function)--while Julius Eastman's organ punctuates, inflects, succinctly comments (incl. exclaims) on and all of the above---and eventually, the Downtown crowd does disco, as could still happen then (spoiler)https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/24-to-24-music-live-at-the-kitchen
Yeah 00:00 / 01:06:53: That's it, one seamlessly interweaving banger--dunno how much is through-composed, but it's all very conversational, with 0 chatter, though some clatter, of Mustafa Ahmed's congas, Jeff Berman's drums, Rome Neal's percussion--times Larry (formerly of Desmond Child and Rouge*) Salzman's guitar, as Peter Gordon's tenor sax crackles and Peter Zummo's trombone hums and holds and (you know it) slides along(the maestro doesn't sing, plays "Pizz Cello" upfront for first 7 minutes at most, then dives to bass function)--while Julius Eastman's organ punctuates, inflects, succinctly comments (incl. exclaims) on and all of the above---and eventually, the Downtown crowd does disco, as could still happen then (spoiler)
― dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link
on all of the above, no "and" meant, sorry, will fix.
― dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link
Has anyone read the Matt Marble book Buddhist Bubblegum?
Via Coolgrove Press, Buddhist Bubblegum dives deep into the mystery of composer, performer, and producer Arthur Russell and offers an unprecedented exploration into his lifelong Vajrayana Buddhist practice. Author Matt Marble charts Russell’s spiritual path, from his early life as a Buddhist monk on a Bay Area commune to his maturing engagement with Japanese Shingon and Indo-Tibetan Vajrayana traditions in Manhattan. Along the way, we learn how Russell creatively adopted traditional methods of mantra, mandala, meditation, astrology, numerology, and more. Through extensive archival research, personal interviews, and musical score analysis, Marble highlights Russell’s major works and shows how esotericism and aesthetic theory strategically guided his creative process. The writing is supplemented throughout with numerous archival images, featuring Russell’s original scores, notebooks, and photographs. Marble’s work is indebted to the Arthur Russell Estate/NYPL, Audika Records/Steve Knutson, Tom Lee, and Russell’s friends and collaborators, as well as to the pioneering work of biographers Tim Lawrence and Matt Wolf. Hailed by the New York Times as “groundbreaking work,” Buddhist Bubblegum reveals how one of America’s most visionary artists uniquely fused spiritual and musical disciplines.
― etc, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link
Will check it out, thanks!
― dow, Thursday, 5 May 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link
Finally picked up my copy today. Have a feeling it's going to be a bit beyond my depths on bost the music theory and the Buddhism fronts--it was if I remember correctly first published a decade or more ago as a PhD dissertation. But I'm still very curious.
― Soundslike, Thursday, 5 May 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link
Did you finish it, Soundslike? I haven't gotten it yet.For completists (heh):
Some Say (Original Mix)by Nirosta Steel, Arthur Russell, Steven Hall, PocketknifeWilde Calm Records is proud to present “Some Say,” a recently discovered song from the archive of Arthur Russell. The track was produced and mixed by Arthur in 1985 for a solo project of Steven Hall’s that was originally intended for release on Rough Trade Records. Legendary disco producer Bob Blank recorded and engineered the project at his Connecticut-based studio. “Some Say” features Arthur’s classic cello basslines, cracking boom bap drums and Steven’s floating vocals and synth pads. In true Arthur fashion, the song abruptly stutters, slinks and lurches halfway through for Steven to complete his Buddhist pop mantra.creditsreleased June 24, 2013Written by Steven HallEngineered by Bob BlankProduced and Mixed by Arthur RussellDrum programming and cello by Arthur RussellKeyboard and vocal by Steven HallEdited by Steven Hall and Arthur RussellAdditional drum programming and editing by Skooby Laposky
Remix is better:
Some Say featuring Arthur Russell (Pocketknife Mix)The B-side features an extended rework of “Some Say” by Pocketknife using Arthur’s BOSS Dr. Rhythm DR-55 drum machine.creditsreleased June 24, 2013
The B-side features an extended rework of “Some Say” by Pocketknife using Arthur’s BOSS Dr. Rhythm DR-55 drum machine.creditsreleased June 24, 2013
― dow, Friday, 21 October 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link
Arthur's not on this 2013-released version of the Russell-Elodie Lauten "In The Light of The Miracle," but it's pleasingly AResque, starting w Lauten's vocals & the setting for same:
This new version for Wilde Calm uses Chicago house music as the starting point and features Lauten on vocals and keys, Nirosta Steel (Steven Hall) on additional vocals, Peter Zummo on trombone, and production/arranging by Pocketknife.L.A.'s Gifted & Blessed (Gifted and Blessed, Wild Oats, Eglo) references Lauten's more well-known compositions and takes the dance floor of "Miracle 2" out into the cosmos.
― dow, Friday, 21 October 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
― Soundslike,
Yes I got it as a free download off his site years ago. I thought it was excellent.
― "H to the Izzo" means "I love you" (Deflatormouse), Friday, 21 October 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link
aw yeah
"Corn", "Iowa Dream" and "World Of Echo" are all back in stock today for Bandcamp Friday.
If you are in the UK/EU "Corn" and "Love Is Overtaking Me" are available for the first time today on vinyl via our licensee Rough Trade Records.
A new album of previously unreleased World of Echo era recordings has been mastered for release sometime in 2023.
As ever thank you all for your support!
― sleeve, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
in other news Strut's Disco Not Disco compilation just got repressed, minus Steve Miller's Macho City for some reason (probably licensing)
Can't overstate the impact that had in 2000, on Russell fandom, on dance music in general. Total game changer. I already had a bunch of Russell stuff but had never heard that edit of Kiss Me Again. I played it over and over and over again.
― dan selzer, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
BOOM!!!
― stirmonster, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
Ermahgerd
― paolo, Saturday, 3 December 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link
Where does that come from? Can't find it on Audika/Steve's Twitter or Facebook or the Audika website...
― Soundslike, Saturday, 3 December 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
Nevermind, saw it on Audika's Bandcamp community page
― Soundslike, Saturday, 3 December 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link
yeah I got it as a Bandcamp update from Audika
― sleeve, Saturday, 3 December 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
there should be a law against reissuing any more arthur russell until the 15 min “tell you today pt 1 + 2” gets reissued
― the late great, Saturday, 17 December 2022 08:33 (one year ago) link
i remember reading about recording sessions for a loose joint album in the liner notes for either world of Arthur russel or calling out of context. Can we get some of that? how many songs were recorded?
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link
loose joints
was just reading an interview with Steve D'Acquisito where he says they recorded an entire double album's worth of stuff
― sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
there was an excerpt from a track called "Let's Go Play Baseball" on a radio broadcast a while back, upthread somewhere
― sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link
omg ANOTHER ONE
https://arthurrussell.bandcamp.com/album/picture-of-bunny-rabbit
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 7 April 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link
God I love that lead track
― MaresNest, Friday, 7 April 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
This Sunday from 2-7pm celebrate the life and work of American composer, cellist, and disco producer Arthur Russell (1951-1992).Join DJs Lucia Santos and Georgia Dillane as they dive into Arthur’s discography, collaborations and interviews with those who keep his music alive pic.twitter.com/EbudMFVguw— WKCR-FM NY (@WKCRFM) May 20, 2023
― dow, Monday, 22 May 2023 22:43 (ten months ago) link
So excited--got my copy of 'Picture of Bunny Rabbit' in the mail a week early, for some reason!
Only been waiting for the 'World of Echo'-era demos teased in the liner notes to WOE's Audika reissue since 2004, so could've survived another week, but I'll take it! About to listen now...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy7sB-OXoAAbFMR?format=jpg&name=large
― Soundslike, Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:43 (ten months ago) link
So first thoughts (best thoughts?):
Obviously not the place anyone would *start* with Arthur's music. But for those deeply in love with 'World of Echo,' is's mostly a warm fuzzy blanket of loveliness, with some sonic wrinkles and combinations not heard from him before. Then there's one track (really a series of several fragments) that suggests yet another Arthur-invented genre unto itself he could've explored at length (and who knows, maybe did) that sounds entirely new, and not much like anything I've heard before--very glitchy, droney, kinetic but somewhat darker and more menacing than anything else he made.
Of course, I would--but I love it.
― Soundslike, Monday, 19 June 2023 00:21 (ten months ago) link
Cool beans, loose jointz---and thanks! Looking fwd even more now.
― dow, Monday, 19 June 2023 02:58 (ten months ago) link
me too! and I was already looking forward to it rather a lot
― ava (paolo), Monday, 19 June 2023 10:51 (ten months ago) link
ilx alum Philip Sherburne conducts a very good interview with Steve Knutson:https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/arthur-russell-picture-of-bunny-rabbit-interview/
― dow, Friday, 23 June 2023 02:16 (nine months ago) link
this is incredible
― Clay, Friday, 23 June 2023 06:07 (nine months ago) link
it sure is
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:38 (nine months ago) link
the interview or the release?
this is one of the best interviews i've ever read tbh. love Knuston so much
haven't heard the release yet even though WoE and bunny rabbits are my 2 favorite things.
will be really bummed if this turns out to be the last big audika project
i can walk to the NYPL performing arts library from my apartment in about 40 mins, been meaning to spend a day in the archive for years but haven't got around to it. always wanted to hear the 45 minute Being It that Tom Lee has talked about his obsession with.
― carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Friday, 23 June 2023 18:56 (nine months ago) link
god this is beautiful
how are these all so good??
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 June 2023 20:47 (nine months ago) link
The version of In The Light of a Miracle, his voice and the vocal melody, so totally beautiful
― MaresNest, Friday, 23 June 2023 21:09 (nine months ago) link
you'd think at this point they'd be scraping through the dregs, i'm just amazed
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 June 2023 21:41 (nine months ago) link
there are a LOT of tapes. i pre-ordered this but my copy appears to have gone awol. :(
― stirmonster, Friday, 23 June 2023 22:03 (nine months ago) link
With this now out there, I'm feeling the urge to compile an album-length "follow-up" album to 'World of Echo,' using cello & voice tracks from this, 'Another Thought,' 'Sketches for World of Echo,' the WoE 2004 bonus tracks, and elsewhere... Not that I don't love them in their original compilation contexts--'Another Thought' especially, as the first Arthur Russell work I encountered in 2001. But seems like it belongs together...
― Soundslike, Saturday, 24 June 2023 15:29 (nine months ago) link
in NYC for a little bit. i don't suppose anyone could get me into the archive on Monday? i don't think i can get a library card. hmm dohplayed the new record on repeat on a redeye.. dreamy
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:54 (nine months ago) link
i don't think you need a library card. you just need to register for a special collections account:
https://specialcollections.nypl.org/aeon/aeon.dll?Action=10&Form=31&Value=https://archives.nypl.org/mus/23272.xml
if it turns out you do need a library card, i could probably swing by.
― carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:29 (nine months ago) link
I'll see how far i can get shortly! Cheers
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:40 (nine months ago) link
of course. you *do* need to book an appointment in advance, so i would do that asap if you're hoping to view it monday. lmk if you need help!
― carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:43 (nine months ago) link
made an account and hit them up 2 different ways. not real clear on the library card point but I put a request in. we'll see. thanks
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:37 (nine months ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, June 23, 2023
it really is amazing, search upthread for the Resident Advisor podcast that has even MORE insanely great material that has still not been released, esp. Loose Joints stuff (may be a rights issue idk)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:45 (nine months ago) link
xp i looked into it and you do need a library card. sorry about that. however, you don't need to be a NY or US resident to apply for one.
https://legacycatalog.nypl.org/selfreg/patonsite
it says international applicants should fill out this form for pre-approval^
i think if you do that and bring an ID with you on the day it will probably be fine, but what time are you looking to get in? i could request an appointment as a failsafe.
― carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:47 (nine months ago) link
Special Notes on Non-Resident (Visitor) BorrowersVisitors from out-of-state or abroad are welcome to use the Library’s resources on-site. Non-residents may be issued a visitor's library card on-site,with a three month expiration date.In order to qualify for a three month visitor account applicants must present photo id and proof of address (i.e. passport and utility bill) for their locality.
― carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:05 (nine months ago) link
Went ahead and made an "imaginary follow-up to 'World of Echo' comp (with bonus tracks, as if I were going to burn it to CD-R and make bespoke packaging, as I would've back in 2003...)
Track list:
'Return to World of Echo' (1983-1987)01. Another Thought (1985) ~02. Boy With a Smile (1986) +03. Just a Blip (1986) ~04. Not Checking Up (1986) +05. See Through Love (1986) ~06. Telling No One (1986) +07. Lucky Cloud (1984) ~08. They and Their Friends (1983) #09. Fuzzbuster #06 (1986) +10. A Sudden Chill (1986) ~11. Home Away From Home (1986) ~12. Losing My Taste for the Night Life (1987) ~13. Hollow Tree (1985) ~14. In the Light of a Miracle (1986) +15. Our Last Night Together (1986) *Bonus:16. Fuzzbuster #09 (1986) +17. I Can't Hide (1984) >18. Very Reason (1986) +19. Picture of Bunny Rabbit (1986) +20. Sunlit Water (1984) >Drawn from:* 'World of Echo' Bonus Track~ 'Another Thought'+ 'Picture of Bunny Rabbit'# 'Corn'> 'Sketches for World of Echo - June 25, 1984 Live at EIF'
01. Another Thought (1985) ~02. Boy With a Smile (1986) +03. Just a Blip (1986) ~04. Not Checking Up (1986) +05. See Through Love (1986) ~06. Telling No One (1986) +07. Lucky Cloud (1984) ~08. They and Their Friends (1983) #
09. Fuzzbuster #06 (1986) +10. A Sudden Chill (1986) ~11. Home Away From Home (1986) ~12. Losing My Taste for the Night Life (1987) ~13. Hollow Tree (1985) ~14. In the Light of a Miracle (1986) +15. Our Last Night Together (1986) *
Bonus:16. Fuzzbuster #09 (1986) +17. I Can't Hide (1984) >18. Very Reason (1986) +19. Picture of Bunny Rabbit (1986) +20. Sunlit Water (1984) >
Drawn from:
* 'World of Echo' Bonus Track~ 'Another Thought'+ 'Picture of Bunny Rabbit'# 'Corn'> 'Sketches for World of Echo - June 25, 1984 Live at EIF'
― Soundslike, Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:54 (nine months ago) link
"Sunlit Water" is so great
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:16 (nine months ago) link
awesome thank you soundslike
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:23 (nine months ago) link
thank you Deflatormouse. I'll see if they can sort me on short notice based on that, or whatever. I'm ostensibly participating in my wife's family reunion 😬 timetable pretty scattered
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 25 June 2023 01:49 (nine months ago) link
hey maffew, it looks like that dept is closed on Sundays so i guess it's too late for me to reserve the materials for tomorrow. feel free to reach out if my coming down there would help somehow or if you want to try for another day. i'm probably the person posting here regularly who lives closest to the site and isn't at work during library hours most weekdays. my dn at hotmail.
― carthage marine park (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 25 June 2023 18:51 (nine months ago) link
right?? it just boggles my mind as to how there's still absolute gold to be found.
― ava (paolo), Monday, 26 June 2023 21:19 (nine months ago) link
some almost post-rocky type vibez in some places
― ava (paolo), Monday, 26 June 2023 21:20 (nine months ago) link
and that version of in the light, unbelievable
yes, it is a phenonemenal version. i could easily go with an hour long version of Fuzzbuster #06
― stirmonster, Monday, 26 June 2023 22:28 (nine months ago) link
Crazy that it’s been almost 20 years since calling out of context, that disc was like a portal to previously unknown worlds
― brimstead, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:47 (nine months ago) link
this is AOTY
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 08:22 (nine months ago) link
last two tracks are astonishing. that's two 'In the Light of a/the Miracle's now that I adore
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 08:23 (nine months ago) link
have to admit i was very skeptical, but i have to agree with everyone in the thread. just awesome!
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 13:29 (nine months ago) link
somewhere i have a 37 minute all the "in the light of the miracles" edited together, idk if this version is on it tho, probably not?
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:12 (nine months ago) link
xxxp hell yeah, gonna make every other album released this year look like absolute shite
― ava (paolo), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:33 (nine months ago) link
kate i didn't know there were that many versions
― ava (paolo), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:34 (nine months ago) link
and it's on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zabD-4-0zk
― ava (paolo), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:35 (nine months ago) link
holy moly the first track on that (Solo Voice and Cello live on Music for Modern Ears radio program 1986) is v similar to the version on bunny rabbit, how did i not know about this??
― ava (paolo), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:40 (nine months ago) link
it's taken from this, which has him speaking on it, I'd never heard his speaking voice before!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duJSeHp13sQ
― ava (paolo), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:43 (nine months ago) link
@maffew12, curious to know if you got into the archive and if you (or anyone else has been) thinks it is worth a visit.
― Position Position, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 13:35 (nine months ago) link
ahhhh contain yr brain, yeah that's probably never been on ilx then, that's a channel i've followed for a while, don't know how i found it originally but lots of cool shit there. i used to follow matt marble's channel too, i think i must've got on an arthur russell kick at some point. i'm honestly surprised at how many people, upon finding something cool on youtube, _don't_ look to see what else is on the channel. "hillbilly leprechaun"!
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 15:36 (nine months ago) link
imaginary follow-up
― serving bundt (sic), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:06 (nine months ago) link
xps it's so cool to hear his speaking voice!
― budo jeru, Friday, 30 June 2023 03:00 (nine months ago) link
PP: no, sorry. Didn't hear back from them til that afternoon. I was too late thinking of it.fwiw they didn't seem to care about my lack of library card.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 2 July 2023 23:32 (nine months ago) link
where is the reissue dammit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAroos8vQ3I
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 22 July 2023 00:56 (eight months ago) link
thanks---passing it along---(cough cough)---yeah
― dow, Saturday, 22 July 2023 02:36 (eight months ago) link
My most wanted unavailable track
― I am using your worlds, Saturday, 22 July 2023 07:04 (eight months ago) link
Anthology Editions AnnouncesTravels Over Feeling: Arthur Russell, A Life By Richard King,Out April 16, 2024 Featuring Previously-Unseen Handwritten Letters, Scores,Lyrics, and More Archival Rarities“The kind of genre-busting artist who defined downtown New York City in the 1970s and ’80s.”— The New York Times “More relevant now than ever.” — The Washington Post “A kind of deity.” — The New Yorker Today, Anthology Editions announces Travels Over Feeling: Arthur Russell, A Life — a landmark publication celebrating the life and work of the beloved late American musician and composer Arthur Russell — written by critically acclaimed writer Richard King, to be released April 16, 2024. Travels Over Feeling paints a portrait of Arthur Russell unlike anything that has come before, revealing a true picture of one of the most distinctive and influential artists of the last 50 years. Travels Over Feeling will be published in the United Kingdom by Faber on April 18. The book combines largely unseen visual materials—handwritten scores, lyrics, photos, letters, and drawings—pulled from Russell’s archives at the New York Public Library as well as the personal collections of close confidants with new texts by King and extensive original interviews with Arthur’s collaborators, contemporaries, family, and friends. “Uncovering the riches of Arthur’s archives was as immersive and intimate an experience as listening to his music. I have endeavored to produce a book that provides the reader with a similar sense of discovery and wonder,” says King. Russell’s eclectic music was often marked by adventurous production choices and his unique voice, defying classification. Pitchfork has said, “his distinctive music has the rare resilience to keep growing, connecting to more and more people because of its extraordinarily contemporary, even timeless, quality.” From his pioneering compositions as part of the Downtown NYC avant-garde scene (alongside the likes of Philip Glass, David Byrne, Laurie Anderson, John Cage, and Allen Ginsberg) to his genre-expanding disco productions, from his new wave and art pop to his posthumously released folk songs, Russell crafted enduring and foundationally influential work until his premature death in 1992 from AIDS-related illnesses.
“The kind of genre-busting artist who defined downtown New York City in the 1970s and ’80s.”— The New York Times “More relevant now than ever.” — The Washington Post “A kind of deity.” — The New Yorker Today, Anthology Editions announces Travels Over Feeling: Arthur Russell, A Life — a landmark publication celebrating the life and work of the beloved late American musician and composer Arthur Russell — written by critically acclaimed writer Richard King, to be released April 16, 2024. Travels Over Feeling paints a portrait of Arthur Russell unlike anything that has come before, revealing a true picture of one of the most distinctive and influential artists of the last 50 years. Travels Over Feeling will be published in the United Kingdom by Faber on April 18. The book combines largely unseen visual materials—handwritten scores, lyrics, photos, letters, and drawings—pulled from Russell’s archives at the New York Public Library as well as the personal collections of close confidants with new texts by King and extensive original interviews with Arthur’s collaborators, contemporaries, family, and friends. “Uncovering the riches of Arthur’s archives was as immersive and intimate an experience as listening to his music. I have endeavored to produce a book that provides the reader with a similar sense of discovery and wonder,” says King. Russell’s eclectic music was often marked by adventurous production choices and his unique voice, defying classification. Pitchfork has said, “his distinctive music has the rare resilience to keep growing, connecting to more and more people because of its extraordinarily contemporary, even timeless, quality.” From his pioneering compositions as part of the Downtown NYC avant-garde scene (alongside the likes of Philip Glass, David Byrne, Laurie Anderson, John Cage, and Allen Ginsberg) to his genre-expanding disco productions, from his new wave and art pop to his posthumously released folk songs, Russell crafted enduring and foundationally influential work until his premature death in 1992 from AIDS-related illnesses.
Faber will host a very special event at The Barbican in London on May 25, 2024 celebrating the life and work of Arthur Russell and the publication of Travels Over Feeling: Arthur Russell, A Life. Speakers Corner Quartet (bassist Peter Bennie, drummer Kwake Bass, flutist Biscuit, and violinist Raven Bush) will join forces with cellist and ambient pop artist Lucinda Chua. The evening will also feature a few special guests, yet to be announced. Tickets will go on sale on November 24 here.
Richard King is the author of Original Rockers (shortlisted for the Gordon Burn Prize and a Rough Trade and Times Book of the Year), How Soon Is Now? (Sunday Times Music Book of the Year), The Lark Ascending (a Rough Trade and Evening Standard Book of the Year, shortlisted for the Penderyn Prize) and, most recently, Brittle with Relics: A History of Wales, 1962–97, all published by Faber & Faber. He is the current Royal Literary Fund Fellow at Cardiff University School of Journalism, Media & Culture. More information is available at richardhywelking.com.
For more information, contact:Yuri Kwon, Jaycee Rockhold | Pitch Perfect PR – yuri at pitchperfectpr.com, jaycee at pitchperfectpr.com
― dow, Friday, 1 December 2023 02:32 (four months ago) link
Haha, what the hell is this?! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arthur-Russell-Cello-Disco-Biography-ebook/dp/B0CVV2YMZQ
― Goodoh, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 10:38 (three weeks ago) link
maybe it's ai?https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?i=digital-text&rh=p_27%3AAmanda+Geraldine&ref=kwrp_li_aut
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 10:53 (three weeks ago) link
it certainly is, I found this a few weeks back, I fucking hate people like this, stinking up Amazon even further just to make pennies.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Transgressive-Echoes-Unraveled-Throbbing-Biography-ebook/dp/B0CNWFRMNR/ref=sr_1_3
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 11:49 (three weeks ago) link
these books are crazy - Print length : 26 pages - but i'm guessing it is the tip of a very large iceberg coming our way.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 13:04 (three weeks ago) link
another great reason to never use amazon. join me
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:08 (three weeks ago) link
we need to flood these pages with one star reviews
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:12 (three weeks ago) link
this is all garbage obv, but that TG cover photo is hilarious.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:37 (three weeks ago) link
― Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:08 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink
could someone please YSI the 2017 RA podcast? Many thanks!
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:47 (three weeks ago) link
Here 'tis - https://we.tl/t-E11IknSSZt
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:55 (three weeks ago) link
thanks you rule ♥️
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:59 (three weeks ago) link
Something new is coming…
https://x.com/audikarecords/status/1773721038540730775?s=61&t=OIvYKs_vXneO_K6s2BAzdA
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 29 March 2024 17:00 (three weeks ago) link
Thanks, also Maresn3st thanks for the podcast!
re the xpost new bio and Barbican, Kitty Empire's got good commentary here, mostly on Arthur and the book, hope to see sep thing on Barbican in May:
A secret hero of the dancefloor, the avant garde producer and musician Arthur Russell occupies a strange and silvery slot in the annals of music. He was a low-key cult figure in his lifetime, but one who has been increasingly celebrated. His prodigious output and his refusal to have that work pinned down has, in the decades since his death from Aids-related illness in 1992, birthed a small cottage industry of admiration and exegesis: compilations, reissues, covers albums, biographies and even a film. The Barbican in London has given over a night in May to celebrate Russell’s often confounding, genre-spanning work – and the publication of this latest account.
― dow, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:42 (four days ago) link
Barbican event info -
https://www.barbican.org.uk/whats-on/2024/event/travels-over-feeling-the-music-of-arthur-russell
― stirmonster, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:32 (four days ago) link
Anybody got the new book yet?
Glad it's offering something augmentary to and seemingly not redundant of 'Hold On To Your Dreams' and 'Buddhist Bubblegum'...
― Soundslike, Friday, 19 April 2024 03:28 (eighteen hours ago) link