― tom cleveland, Monday, 7 April 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― tom cleveland, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
music for animals.
m.
― msp, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andy Beckerman, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― snake assassin, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
anybody pick up any of their t-shirts on their last tour? i bought one. bright turquoise with flourescent designs akin to danse manatee the art! it's too small sadly. the wife wears it.
― msp, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnellschnell, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnellschnell, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ano ano (ano ano), Sunday, 11 May 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Thursday, 19 June 2003 19:10 (twenty years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 19 June 2003 19:13 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 June 2003 02:56 (twenty years ago) link
this is brill
― Chip Morningstar (bob), Friday, 27 June 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:39 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:53 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link
I mean it as something positive -- these are records I listen to in a less-than-conscious way. Maybe akin to what Eno was talking about way back when regarding his "ambient" music, but with a more organic (shitty word, sorry) feel.
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 31 July 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 05:24 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 October 2003 00:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:32 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:50 (twenty years ago) link
details
www.fat-cat.co.uk
fat cat are also releasing their last two albums as a double cd in the u.k. next monday so i will finally get to hear them.
― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 2 October 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 2 October 2003 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 October 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link
― andy, Thursday, 2 October 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link
― raphael diligent (Cozen), Saturday, 29 November 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 29 November 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 29 November 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 29 November 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
God bless them. I hope that Avey Tare eventually comes around to making more "pop" records at some point, though. I think that melody, lyrics, and structure suits their style very well. I can appreciate the crazier, more free-form music, but it doesn't move me nearly as much.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 30 November 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:31 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:51 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link
RE: Kompakt gig...Panda Bear has performed while singing on top of Other Music's Scotty Mau(a fantastic DJ) before, they called themselves "Jane"
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:03 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 1 December 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
D'oh! I'd love to hear them. I'll be in NY later this month. Do you think there's a snowball's chance in hell they might still have any?
― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
has anyone else heard Hollindagain?
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link
actually i should listen to all their albums lots on headphones, i don't get to play them much at home cos ppl tend to complain.
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
What's this "Jane" CDR??
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:03 (twenty years ago) link
Ho hum. Is Hollindagain the live album people are always talking about?
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:06 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 08:20 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago) link
jane is a duo featuring panda bear (under his own name) and another party i wasn't able to place. very beat-oriented, possibly even clubby. i have no idea where their cdrs might be available, i got a copy from a friend of a friend, who found it in a used been in a store that isn't around anymore in houston.
m
― Mark Flaum, Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 02:14 (twenty years ago) link
February 21st - New York - Knitting Factory with the Numbers
March 27th - New York - Anthology Film Archives
Deacon told me it might even be danceable!Plus jane is playing with Orthrealm and Black dice next Friday at the Knit. New York's long dark winter is over.
― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link
but as far as the AT & PB stuff is concerned, what little I've heard all sounds like Cornelius.
― Roger, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
Roger, have you only heard Spirit...? If you like TT I would reccomend Here Comes the Indian esp the "Two Sails" and "Infant Dressing Table" tracks.
― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:01 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:14 (twenty years ago) link
i was expecting some sort of fried elephant six acid folk - instead i got dense sheets of tape manipulation and scary noises. i honestly feel this stuff is closer to stockhausen than elephant six.
i've heard some live jackie o motherfucker bootlegs (very heavy on turntables) that start to approximate the sound but yeah, it's very very tapeloop/effects heavy.
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link
The new record, recorded as a duo of AT and PB, is maybe the most acid folk material thus far. It is mainly acoustic guitars, fun percusion, and catchy (but still fucked) songwriting.
― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
x-o-x-xo
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
i have much to trade - email me if yr lookin for anything - can also pay postage and some extra if ya want
by the way, Avey's split with Grubbs on FatCat is awesome. there's an animal collective lp coming out on Fat Cat this year too
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link
i dont like this that much any more either tho.
― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link
zemko have you heard hollindagain?
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
it was a good pun. it was just too punky. people would call me fassy and think it hurt. close your eyes little one! ack
― zemko (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:54 (twenty years ago) link
― zemko zemkingdom (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago) link
i hate it like the universe
― cozemko (bob), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link
I wanna hear this after vahid's stockhausen mention. he also sounds like the beatles.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link
my flatmate was ill yesterday and i promised to cook her dinner, hence no double leopards for me...
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 7 February 2004 08:22 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
might as well bring it up again, but if anyone would want to trade for the jane cd or has it on slsk i would would love to hear it!
they posted some new tour dates on the paw tracks site, euro / uk mainly (in april):
http://carparkrecords.com/pawtracks.html
― marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link
― marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
why don't they play atp? : / invite them, malkmus!
wow they're playing glasgow with múm!
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
― marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:23 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:25 (twenty years ago) link
here's the line-up fr the triptych gig:
Andre Williams, Explosions in the sky, Fennesz, Animal Collective, Dabrye, Matthew Dear, jd Twitch and jg wilkes, eyoe dj's.
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 5 March 2004 04:49 (twenty years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:51 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:14 (twenty years ago) link
just got an advance copy of the new animal collective in the mail...and the article included w. the press sheet is the one i wrote! ahaha! the circle is complete!
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 5 March 2004 08:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 March 2004 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
http://carparkrecords.com/pawtracks.html here are the dates. not sure what the 3rd one is...
April 25th - London, Old Vic Theatre w/ múm
May 6th - London, Buffalo Bar - TBC
― marcg (marcg), Friday, 5 March 2004 12:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 March 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago) link
*this may be a lie.
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 5 March 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
April 30th - London, Coronet Theatre, w/ Four Tet
actually it's with loads of ppl, matt dear, explosions in the sky, manitoba etc etc. i'm def going to this one and i guess the buffalo bar too (are tix on sale yet?).
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 5 March 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Friday, 5 March 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 5 March 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
but the half of sung tongs i've just now heard i don't find a tiny bit as good as 'here comes the indian'. i suppose this says something about me huh
― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke off, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke boo-yaa, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke letter, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
peace,a
― andrew jones (andrew jones), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link
i still think they've yet to top spirit... to be perfectly honest.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Agreed, but no more suspect than "it sounds great on a spring night driving on the highway with the windows rolled down." What *doesn't* sound great then?
And music that's "right for every occasion or mood" probably sounds like eggshell wallpaper.
― Evanston Wade (EWW), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 8 May 2004 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.fat-cat.co.uk/amcollective_small.mov (8megs)http://www.fat-cat.co.uk/amcollective_large.mov (20megs)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke barf, Friday, 14 May 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Friday, 14 May 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Friday, 14 May 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― SexyDancer, Friday, 14 May 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
www.fat-cat.co.uk/animal_web.mov
it's nice!
― naturemorte, Saturday, 15 May 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
...or they're the Polyphonic Spree for noize dudes...
...or the Moldy Peaches for Laurie Anderson fans...
― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Holla back Trey, Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bbeta, Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
sung tongs is describable i guess.
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
panda bear's first album is long OOP (the first Animal Collective related release? 1999?) and very hard to track down material copies of.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
(nb: this is a more general point, I don't like nu-AC.)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― BbetaA, Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
this is true (about most everything they've done) but what i'm beginning to realize is that not everyone can discern this. obv some effort is required i suppose, but some people are in the swing of looking for at least new-seeming twists in music, having unearthed a lot already, so it's not "effort" exactly. it's a seeking out of surprise on one hand, but also an ability to recognize when an actual surprise has reared up. others who aren't so inclined generally just refute this whole premise outright, see it as off-putting pathology etc. but usually they have little else but cute scoffing exercises to run through and tend to like to leave it at that. gold-medal cutesy types you know them. i want to feel transported, not inducted into an unserious pavilion of snark, personally.
― duke abscond, Friday, 27 August 2004 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Right, well, hence the "for people who hate Phish" qualifier. Their noodliness is of a more intellectual sort. They're conceptually noodly.
― spittle (spittle), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabisothingy, Friday, 27 August 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link
you should think twice before you say something like this. last night's show had a mostly lit loft with a few colored lights and a chandelier above the bands. the fucking dumbshit dj thought he'd be cute (i think he actually thought he was doing a good job) by flicking the lights on and off. it wasn't ever even in rhythm or during exciting moments.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
"self doubt, i'll doubt i'll find a swimming pool"... or something similar?
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link
They had copies of Wastered at the Echo and then sold out. 50% of the audience left after AC played, at the Echo, as well.
Also, if you thought that the show was underattended, you should've been at the Acid Mothers Temple. There were at most 25 people there.
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
And why are people leaving before Black Dice play? I thought they were better than AC that night.
― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link
But even more than that, I don't feel like seeing them live adds anything to the music. You've got one guy looking nervous and afraid, another playing guitar but hidden by his effects case and a third guy sort of dancing in place and twiddling knobs. Basically, the only interaction is when Bjorn cocks his head to the side and mouths something to the other guys.
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
AMT was at Spaceland one night and KF the next. The KF show was awesome because no one was there, but the a/c was out and it was HOT AS FUCK. They were selling $1 Rolling Rocks to make up for it.
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I go see BD because their music in the live setting is so much more visceral, huge and physical than when I play their records in my home. I find recorded-BD and live-BD as two related but vastly difference perspectives of the same band like two wildly different photographs of the same person.
― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I would personally say: a great deal.
― (Jon L), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
I have Panda Bear's first album - Wifey thinks parts of it sound like Amnesiac-era Radiohead and, though I'd never have drawn that conclusion myself, that seems kinda accurate. It's not too good, in retrospect.
The song "Fire" from it is pretty decent.
it isn't slskable?
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
it would be great if there was more of an equipment failure in BD's sets and they'd have to revert back to SEMEN OF THE SUN.
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Why the sarcasm? Why edit my quote to change its meaning? Why jump on me when my point was in contrast to Dean?'s very valid take on BD live (which I am not saying is wrong in any way just diff. than mine.)
The full sentence that I originally wrote was "I do not go see Black Dice live in order to witness a performance OR MUSIC THEATER."
Maybe I am not making my point. What I am saying is I do not experience Black Dive live like I would, say the Stooges or any other group that performs in the words purest sense like Frank Sinatra or Bowie or Liza or whomever. They move; they dance, they are personalities and their performances work as a form of theater, too. I would not expect this from BD. Half the time my eyes are closed and/or they are not in my field of vision. But, I love their sound via huge fucking PA's.
Does this make sense? Or, is my point still so totally foriegn that the only response possible is sarcasm? I hope not.
― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
And just as a helpful tip to you: At this point in a thread, Jon Williams usually steps in here to say "Shut up, Ben, what do you know? You like Dave Matthews" and it gets me to shut up, since he's right.
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes ... unfortunately.
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
I was mostly bothered by him constantly shouting demands to the soundboard - turn off the delay, more vocals in the monitor, less delay, ok i want the delay back - and his seeming lack of interest in just performing. It wasn't like these were highly crafted songs, so they didn't seem to need all of the fuss that was being made over them.
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke dance, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke overhead, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I am suddenly deeply curious to hear this. What about "The Doldrums," Sexy? That seems to be the easiest to find...
― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke pink, Monday, 30 August 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke here, Monday, 30 August 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/arielpink-09.m3u
― duke check, Monday, 30 August 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
as I said over there: O.M.G.W.T.F? details!
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
details are they recorded three songs with vashti in england last spring I think. They were three songs they had left over from the sung tongs era. Fat Cat is releasing it as an ep in may or something. They should have them for sale on their april tour.
― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― naturemorte, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
1. it's you2. prospect hummer3. baleen sample4. I remember learning how to drive
16th may, 2005
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― owen reading, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― naturemorte, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Ok ok i know, Ramones & Spector. But still, sheesh. What's next the Flaming Lips and Syd Barrett?
― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
let's hope so. their collab. with spongebob squarepants was garbage.
― eman (eman), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
what's up w.working w.artists who are artistically strapped?
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― eman (eman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rizzx, Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Monday, 21 March 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― who's asking? (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't realise the Jane, responsible for the magnificent 'Bezerker', was a AC spin-off either.
― stevo (stevo), Thursday, 14 July 2005 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― spastic heritage, Sunday, 24 July 2005 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 24 July 2005 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link
And no, I don't think it's leaked yet.
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Sunday, 24 July 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― spastic heritage, Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
-- gygax! (gygax0...), August 30th, 2004 9:20 AM. (gygax!)
"banshee beat"!
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― b'angelo, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Really? It sounds almost like a completely diferrent band to me, there's nothing as immediate as "Leaf House" or "Who Could Win a Rabbit" (though I did like "Grass" a bit, but even that was just a total headfuck), there's so much going on, the vocals sound really different... the production is odd.. it's a lot noiseier... it's just not what I expected, that's all.
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
that's all true about the faster songs, which seem more like Animal Collective's take on rock - the slower songs are more Sung Tongs-ish. all of it is extremely enjoyable.
― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Kevin H (Kevin H), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Oklahomie, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
hint:
INDIE ROOM
― hais!, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― b8a, Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link
percussion
― lf, Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 15 December 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Thursday, 15 December 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Did they smoke up with the devil before writing the songs on "Feels"?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jibé (Jibé), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link
"Feels" is a noisier record (in the shoegaze sense) than anything else I've heard from them, I know that has something to do with why I like it so much.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
For me Sung Tongs is my fave cos it's completely original and it sounds very organic and meticulously unprepared. Feels is fine, but veers very close to Flaming Lips territory at times. Sung Tongs just sounds like the Beach Boys playing messed up folk songs in the middle of the desert whilst peeling out on the strongest shrooms ever and I love it. One of the most important albums of this decade for me. But as I say, it took me a long time for it to click. Tracks like "Visiting Friends" can be pretty tedious and overlong, but I'd say something like "We Tigers" epitomises the tribal harmonic joy of that point in their career.
― Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― helperbird, Friday, 16 December 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Friday, 16 December 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― I know, right?, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― mizzell, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― I know, right?, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― sleeve, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― I know, right?, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link
I saw a.c. back in july and i'm still impressed. I think the newest material is a lot better than strawberry jam (which is still good). Right now I think this newest stuff is kinda the best dance music ever. specially 'material things' is wonderful techno-ish. Anyone seen them lately and feeling the same?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1HXQ1ybwBM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iSG6U2YcQ0
― maarten, Friday, 24 August 2007 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link
animal collective is my favorite band to see live. they are always so totally on fire that i feel like i am staring into my heart.
― elan, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link
this new material is really cool i am glad
― elan, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
NO
― Brigadier Pudding, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Saw them in Tripod last night. Fucking brilliant. No further discussion required.
― I know, right?, Monday, 5 November 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, when I saw them live in Berlin a few weeks ago they were astonishing. Total intergalactic balearic in parts, especially for their encore.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link
saw them in paris two weeks ago. the best live show i've seen.
(and i found them awful twice before)
― poortheatre, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link
MindinRewind, EVERY song/album/artist/genre sounds like crap when you describe their music in a series of first person sentences from their perspective. I mean, here's every post-rock song ever.Look at this we're playing real mellow and slow... now it's kind of loud... UH OH IT'S LOUD NOW!!!!! ------ Now it's quiet again... GETTING KIND OF LOUD... REAL LOUD!!!!! ---- lol now it's quiet.
Wait, how did this not become its own joke thread? I want to see more genres described.
― Cunga, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Gauntlet Hair is a relatively unknown pair of dudes who are named Andy and Craig, from the small-ish (23,000 population) Colorado town of Lafayette. The pair garnered a fair amount of attention after being part of the Rhinoceropolis-curated block of Denver-based bands that played at the post-SXSW Mexican extravaganza MtyMx. The band’s track “I Was Thinking… ” is a pretty insatiable guitar stomp that throws some R&B and soul into the lo-fi revival pot, mixing heavily-reverbed guitars with a simple, but undeniably booty-shaking beat. Add in some Animal Collective-style vocal melodies and you’ve got something pretty fantastic.
Does anything quite make you want to not hear a band like "Add in some Animal Collective-style vocal melodies"?
― Cunga, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I was this lose to wanting to hear the band but then they throw down that little detail at the last minute and I'm backing out and taking off the headphones
― Cunga, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
the fact that "post-anco" is a real thing and not just some ironic yuks on a message board blows my mind
― TeRRaFuGiA FLYinG CaR - ELeCTRiC DReaMs - PHiLiP OaKLeY / GiorGiO MoRoDeR (LOLK), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Moaning about Animal Collective's aesthetic and bands who may or may not have taken queues from it according to some wack journo
= dud.
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't want to derail the ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS thread by posting more AC lyrics after ilxor did, but man:
There’s no one, there’s no one, there's no oneNo oneThere’s no one, no one, there’s no oneNo one,(Kit, kit kit kit kit kit kit kit ................)There’s no one, no one, there’s no one, no one,(Kit, kit kit kit kit kit kit kit ................)There’s no one, no one, there’s no one to say meow, kittiesMeow (kitties)Meow (kitties)Meow (kitties)Meow
― ksh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think anyone has ever claimed that their lyrics are any good
― WEB SHERIFF ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ (LOLK), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
kit kit kit kit kit kit kit
― ksh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
ILX wanked itself silly over My Girls' lyrics AIRC
― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Because they almost make sense for a change?
AC are definitely a "vocals as instrument" band for me - sometimes the words trigger direct associations that enhance the song ("I remember learning how to dive", "open up your throat"), sometimes they're awful (the Avey Tare "sexy" songs), usually they're just sounds with little more symbolism than the yelpy bits that punctuate them. I say this as a massive AC fan btw.
― seandalai, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
^^
― ksh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ya I am Animal Collective fan #1 but I think I'd be safe to give an Avey Tare poetry book a miss. I think there's some nice enough stuff on the past three albums (babies pooing aside), but prty sure that Leaf House isn't one they spent hours working through on the page before daring vocalise it.
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.atpfestival.com/sized/files/img/events/20110513-animalfix_670x0.jpg
All Tomorrow's Parties curated by Animal Collective13th-15th May 2011 at Butlins Holiday Centre, MineheadOn Sale Friday 29th October from www.seetickets.com
We are very pleased to invite one of the most exciting indie success stories of the last decade to curate the only ATP festival weekend of May 2011. Animal Collective's last album Merriweather Post Pavilion was hailed with universal acclaim; 5 Stars from Uncut, 8/10 from NME and a 9.6 from Pitchfork, who also named it their album of the year and put it in their top 20 albums of the decade. ATP promoter Barry Hogan: "I always wondered what kind of mixtape Animal Collective would put together, so we are really stoked that they are climbing into the curating hot seat at Butlins next May where they will headline and curate the festival that includes the likes of Lee Scratch Perry and Gang Gang Dance from an already eclectic mix of 40+ acts."
The first announcements chosen by Animal Collective for the line-up are:
ANIMAL COLLECTIVEGANG GANG DANCELEE SCRATCH PERRYARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITIBROADCASTBLACK DICEMEAT PUPPETS performing Up On The SunTHE FROGS performing It's Only Right & NaturalIUDOMAR-SPRINCE RAMASPECTRUMDENT MAYGROUP DOUEHTHE BROTHERS UNCONNECTEDSUBLIME FREQUENCIES DJs + FilmsDERADOORIANZOMBYVLADISLAV DELAY
with far more to be announced!
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I like a fair bunch of that, especially The Frogs and Omar-S
― I can't wait to get home and climb aboard... GROCERY GROIN (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link
man i like a lot of that
― just sayin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link
was always expecting them as the inevitable curators and they are naturally doing an awesome job
― max readroom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link
this does look amazing actually.
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean whether you like AC or not, dudes have great taste
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link
the return of dance music to atp!? O_O
― your mum, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Can I afford to go to ATP and Primavera in the same month, is the question...
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link
vlad!!
― hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
animal collective awesome job, great taste
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
dire lineup except for meat puppets and group doueh
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
what no Shellac
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
the other side of takeout is mildew on rice
― markers (crüt) (markers) (crüt) (markers) (crüt) (markers), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
lee perry will be performing his masterpiece "jamaican ET" in its entirety
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
OMAR-S performing Fabric 45
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
would see
BROADCASTOMAR-SZOMBYVLADISLAV DELAY
everything else is terrible
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
prolly not the thread to express that viewpoint
ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITIBROADCAST
would be cool to see. i kind of like animal collective, too (or, at least, i bet they'd put on an interesting show). i love lee perry, but in 2010? and prince rama are an intriguing act to me.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
you are a total dipshit if you think group doueh is terrible
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
brothers unconnected certainly worth checking out too
― mizzell, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
all middle eastern music is horrible, atonal, buzzing noise
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
also
http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/Prince_Rama.jpg
i find two of the three intriguing, the other not so much
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
girl on left looks pensive.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
would have intrigue with all these white girls
no j/k they are sorta doggish
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:50 PM
western sahara ≠ middle east
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blog.yellowbirdproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dent-may.jpg
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
you laff, but last time anco uncovered some weirdo doofus all of indie rock sounded like him four years later so
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
If I could afford to go to this, would love to see:ANIMAL COLLECTIVEGANG GANG DANCEARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITIBROADCASTBLACK DICEMEAT PUPPETSTHE FROGS PRINCE RAMADERADOORIANZOMBY
Although I have to admit I haven't heard any of Deradoorian's solo stuff yet. Mad crush on her though. Someone point me to some Doueh to hear.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
xp thats indie rock's problem, not mine
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
have no idea who yr referring to tbh
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
gucci mane?
anyway this lineup looks great, Broadcast are teh best
meh. they couldn't book lil b (the based god)?
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Does anyone know whether Doueh and the Bishops are doing other UK shows around this time? I would be surprised if not, but it'd be nice to know as I guess this will sell out pretty quick (they're only doing one ATP in May, right?).
― myopic_void, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean pretty phenomenal bill... but then again they could put motorhead and the ghost of joey ramone on this lineup and it's like i wouldn't want to spend more than 3 minutes with an audience of DIEHARD ANIMAL COLLECTIVE FANS in their stupid masks without wanting to blow my fucking brains out all over the fish n chips stand
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
lol their fans wear masks?
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HUTeZEpDdWY/SzmIRyDPRhI/AAAAAAAAAB8/3V3X0u6cxeQ/s320/paperbag.jpg
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol Animal Collective fans wear masks?
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.chinashopmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/animal-collective-18-fans1-580x350.jpg
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Get yer eyes check bro, that is facepaint.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2656/3843236338_9e5f078c1e.jpg
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
headz ain't ready
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
those are TRIBAL MARKS or PAW PRINTS?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
wait whiney answer my question. or someone else answer it. I R perplexed
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
they go to clemson
crowd of people engage in idiotic behavior shockah
like this is why I never go to festivals in general, more than a couple hundred people in one place turns nauseating pretty quickly
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
all animal collective fans are enrolled at clemson university.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
xxpost - ariel pink
― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
ah thx
I have never heard of or paid attention to ariel pink
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
well I've heard OF them (her? him?) but I've never listened to anything
just so tired of all these animal collectives
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
what do they sound like? i think i want to hear these bands, like tonight!
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Should've been a stipulation that all acts have to have an animal somewhere in the name.
That aside, Deerhunter should really be on that ticket!
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
lol u went to burning man
― fakey (buzza), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
which, btw, did not involve 10s of thousands of people when I was going
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
also a few thousand people spread across a desert is pretty different from thousands of people packed into a festival field, in the good ol' early days of Burning Man at no point would you ever be in a crowd of morons.
also you could still drive around, burn things, carry guns/explosives/fireworks, and there were no cops
oh how things have changed
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, being an upwardly-mobile urbanite US music fan must be the absolute worst. I feel so sorry for you people who are forced 24/7 to hang out with mask-wearing fans of an actually-not-as-ubiquitous-as-you-make-out noise-rock band that I may actually start an awareness charity.
Actually no, I think I'll spend my time enjoying music and looking forward to ATP instead, bungholes.
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i still love this band btw
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't say I'm too mad for Dent May though. He's like a bad impression of Jonathan Richman playing a uke. Maybe he's more charming live though...?
― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
bd+ac are the best, would see
― plax (ico), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
― am0n, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:44 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
UCB ref???
― teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
;]
― am0n, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe i put this somewhere else but my friend made this and I still think it's pretty funny. He was convinced 311 has a big influence on Animal Collective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUsn_YRQaJI
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCK03Po10iE&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rh0xvLxIAI&feature=relmfu
― nostormo, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:06 (eleven years ago) link
so, new AC. the Panda track is better imo.Tare repeat the same tricks he pulled in Feels etc...the production sounds like old AC, which is great.
― nostormo, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
On first listen it's ok I guess. Doesn't feel like it has anything at all to do with 2012, which is not necessarily a bad thing but in the absence of new tricks I'd like some better tunes.
― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Monday, 7 May 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link
the Panda track is better imo.
Both songs sound like Avey Tare to me.
― spastic heritage, Monday, 7 May 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah both are avey. don't get a feels vibe at all from these.
― mizzell, Monday, 7 May 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
i really like the percussion. agree the tunes aren't great, but these were far from the best songs on the last tour.
― mizzell, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, seems ILM really has moved on from Animal Collective...not even a bit of abuse for old time's sake?
― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
ya these songs haven't struck me very much yet, which as a fanboy is pretty rare for new Animal Collective material. I think maybe I'm not especially digging the sonic palette they're using, it all sounds a bit murky and indistinct without having other qualities to make up for that. But then I've seen them doing their latest set of songs a couple of times and listened to them a couple more and I don't really remember these songs, so whatever I still anticipate the album. V uninternetty response I admit, it's time to proclaim a shark jump.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Doesn't feel like it has anything at all to do with 2012
Not sure what's '2012', but this comment sticks with me.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
i'm holding out for the "Untitled" song that pitchfork filmed them performing at p4k fest last year
― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
centipede hz is their Load
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
I just happened to throw on Feels this morning on my way to work. Still my favorite of album of theirs.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
Centipede HZ is their Exile on Main Street. It's its own world... the best thing they've done.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
Animal Collective cancels tour for health reasons, fans on Facebook yell at them a lot
― tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Samuel E. Raven By illness you mean cocaine?about an hour ago via mobile · 9
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
"health reasons" or "family problems" always raise red flags
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 July 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
One of these dudes has a pretty significant drug problem that is not very secret, but they've just kicked him out of the band before. Makes me wonder what it would take for them to cancel dates?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 July 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link
Avey Tare seems to have a lot of throat issues.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link
Maybe his vocal chords are fxed up
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
I don't think it should be required of anybody, but coming clean is a good look. I did like it when Fiona Apple cancelled a tour because her dog died.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 July 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link
I didnt know deakin had a drug problem before this thread. He was hilarious in concert because he wore the collar of his oxford shirt flipped up and would dance around while playing his guitar, in contrast to the other, more staid band members. My ex gf and i kept saying "deakmeister" "the deak" and "fuckin D" the whole concert. I miss her.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
Anyway, everyone here knows i love this band and i wish them all the best.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
he has a drug problem? jeez news to me
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 12 July 2013 06:32 (ten years ago) link
care to elaborate? this is killing me
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
seconded. I would like details on deakin too.
In this case though spazmatazz, i think the issue is avey's vocal chords because he has had laryngitis and complications from that over the past 8 months
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
ah ok. i wouldnt be surprised if the way he sings has damaged his voice already
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
The details are: Deakin doesn't do drugs. Or maybe he does!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 July 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
bruno mars got arrested for cocaine possession
― markers, Friday, 12 July 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
that motherfuckin' Deak. just like the Deak to cancel a tour so he can get high. what a Deak.
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
i love Deakin.
i want Albert to come back and give us the deets on what he said before. or should i say the Deaks
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc56/tomlostmonkey/smileys/th_cocaine-smiley.gif
― lowermyballs.com (am0n), Friday, 12 July 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
blow?? the DEAK??? lol
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
i mean, like i said before, he was dressed in a risky business sort of way when i saw him in boston, with his collar flipped up. maybe they had to cancel the tour because he took a job at an investment bank.
― Treeship, Saturday, 13 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
i hope avey tare's voice recovers. this song was really good live iirc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW6tc_8yT5I
― Treeship, Saturday, 13 July 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdht0amhP61rz30lyo1_500.jpg
― mizzell, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
Classic Deak
― Treeship, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
Deak's Got a Beak
― waterface, Monday, 15 July 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
Saw them live at roskilde. They managed to play ten songs in eighty minutes, lots of droning interludes. Started out with Moonjock and What Would I Want? Sky, which means that the first fifteen minutes was in 7/8. At that point most of the audience had sortof realised they weren't going to get a dance-party. The audience only livened up when they played My Girls and Brother Sport. It got really bad reviews, but I loved it. Sorta.
― Frederik B, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
Jealous you were in denmark. I studied abroad there and it's a great country.
― Treeship, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
I'm Danish. And yeah, it's quite great, though the summer-weather is rubbish. Roskilde was really fantastic this year, but I've never been to any other big festival, so I can't really compare it.
― Frederik B, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
I had to leave right before roskilde and i was devastated. Do you live in Copenhagen? Thats where I (predictably) was.
― Treeship, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
Yup. Well, technically Frederiksberg, but it's all Copenhagen to me. Where did you study, and what?
― Frederik B, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
I went to a school called the Danish Institute for Study Abroad for a semester, which is on Vestergade. All my classes were in English and were related to the humanities - philosophy, russian literature, art history and nordic mythology. My best class was on kierkegaard. I should have tried to learn at least a little danish but it didnt seem like there was enough time
― Treeship, Monday, 15 July 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Oh right, that sounds logical. I think it's a part of the University of Copenhagen, where I studied humanities as well, but still it's own thing.
― Frederik B, Monday, 15 July 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
wait, deakin said the n-word??
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Monday, 15 July 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
Yeah. And the worst part is, this most recent outburst earned him his own radio show.
― Treeship, Monday, 15 July 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Listening to Centipede Hz again. One more track until Amanita. Excited.
― Treeship, Monday, 15 July 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
merriweather didn't speak much to me when it first came out but it's been a really spectacular part of my summer. what a wonderful hippie album, totally joyous. also is this the best appropriation of all those kompat pop ambient collections ever? i feel like all those sounds are such a part of MPP. i also pulled out person pitch again for the summer and it's really perfect.
centipede isn't speaking to me now, seems denser and inaccessible and without space. i've only given it a few listens though.
― marcos, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
i think centipede is more of an avey tare album and merriweather a panda bear one: the former is nervous and jittery and each of the songs seem to want to do a few different things as once. this is what i like about it, but i like merriweather too for the things that it does well.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
they must have good blow in cincy
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/627a4b_48c27267f7d98fe3d67fff4d4083dba3.png_srz_661_661_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_png_srz
― mizzell, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Tweakin
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Just to be sure: Dave Portner is Avey Tares real name, and Abigail Portner is his sister, who has made several of their album covers, right? They must be quite ugly shoes, then.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
I hung my head in shame at the record store today, as I finally caved and bought the Prospect Hummer thingy with Vashti Bunyan (which is the reason I got it). I was totally amused that the spine credits the band as "AC." Teehee.
― Austin, Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
i have a feeling they are not long for this world as a group.
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
Weren't there a bunch of break up rumours like three years ago?
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
Me tooXpost
The new avey tare group, the last maficre record (ran out of ideas?!),The Panda Bear successful solo career. ..
― nostormo, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link
anyone else at the 9:30 show on monday? it was great, first time i've seen them play the Centipede stuff, which really came alive (especially "Father Time," which I didn't think much about beforehand). can't wait to see what they do next, together and individually! what an honor and a privilege to be around to see a legendary band in its prime!
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
*farts*
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
'waterface'… they probably had a song called that at some point
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/uto3gC3.jpg
― 龜, Sunday, 30 March 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link
God, that's exactly what they say, isn't it?
― austinato (Austin), Sunday, 30 March 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link
ah cmon
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 30 March 2014 01:34 (ten years ago) link
I will never not be laughing at that one
― (or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:01 (ten years ago) link
was that made in microsoft word b/c i'm pretty sure i've seen the text styling on "original" before
― markers, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:39 (ten years ago) link
quite into the dog's hitler moustache + hulk hogan skullet combo.
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 30 March 2014 07:10 (ten years ago) link
Big Dog Collective
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 March 2014 07:16 (ten years ago) link
i really like this
https://soundcloud.com/anmlcollective/sets/new-psycho-actives-vol-1
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
Spoke to Deakin and Vashti Bunyna about ten years of Prospect Hummer (IMO their best release to date) http://thequietus.com/articles/17672-vashti-bunyan-animal-collective-conversation-interview
― but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 17 April 2015 10:28 (nine years ago) link
*Bunyan
― but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link
cool. i love vashti bunyan
― Treeship, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:01 (nine years ago) link
she was so nice. a genuinely lovely person.
― but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link
that's a nice interview, I loved prospect hummer at the time
― ogmor, Friday, 17 April 2015 14:03 (nine years ago) link
Were I stuck in said airport I would complain mightily.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/11/animal-collective-are-debuting-their-new-album-at-bwi-airport-right-now/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
aw i think it's a cool stunt
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link
BWI actually has Dan Deacon and Future Islands on constant rotation in the bathrooms every day.
well, this is different.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 26 November 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link
great that they did it on Thanksgiving, talk about max exposure.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 26 November 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link
meant, Thanksgiving eve.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 26 November 2015 03:09 (eight years ago) link
Poor people. As if wasting time with their families on thanksgiving wasn't bad enough.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 November 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link
Were I stuck in said airport I would complain mightily.― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, November 25, 2015 7:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, November 25, 2015 7:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM.
― Turrican, Thursday, 26 November 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link
BWI actually has Dan Deacon and Future Islands on constant rotation in the bathrooms every day.― flappy bird, Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flappy bird, Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...and I'd complain even more if I went to the toilets to get away from Animal Collective offending my ears and I was confronted with the god-awful sound of Future Islands instead. Although, I guess there's a none more fitting soundtrack for having a shit to.
― Turrican, Thursday, 26 November 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
The version of "what would I want sky" on live at 930 is beautiful
― calstars, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link
i was pleasantly surprised with Live at 9:30. the mix is phenomenal, i'd never heard their interludes and transitions with such clarity. every time i've seen them after 2006, the live mix has been really muddy. It gave me a new appreciation for a lot of the CHz songs like 'Father Time' and 'Monkey Riches.'
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 02:58 (eight years ago) link
Surprised there's no mention of their upcoming album here - I guess times have changed. Already seems strange that these guys were the definition of the zeitgeist for a brief while. They influenced a lot of copycats, but did any of those copycats have any tunes? Hope the new one backs of a bit from the kitchen-sink mud overload of the last one. I listened to the ILX pre-cover version of Centipede Hz way more than the real thing.
― the_ecuador_three, Thursday, 7 January 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link
yeah the production/arrangements weren't great on the latest album but there were some good tunes and great bits, here and there.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 7 January 2016 13:34 (eight years ago) link
Seems to me that MPP was their New Jersey. The big hyped album that garnered critical and commercial praise on the back of past successes more than its own merits, and ultimately pointed to the game being up.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 7 January 2016 14:06 (eight years ago) link
I haven't followed the "New Jersey" thread in details but it seems the idea is also that the album in question has to be bad (I'm not necessarily talking about the MJ album !) or not so good.I know many people and AC fans don't particularly like MPP but for most (including me), it's pretty solid.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 7 January 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link
Yep I know plenty of people who didn't really get their previous stuff, but thought MPP was that bit more polished and hooky. It's more of a (What's the Story) Morning Glory than a Be Here Now.
― the_ecuador_three, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link
I heard the newest single and was just, what is this, this is making my stomach feel queasy
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:21 (eight years ago) link
new animal collective there was a little bit of discussion of FloriDada here
it's better than most of the last one but sounds pretty indistinguishable from like... Yeasayer or some other band they've influenced. don't really have much in the way of expectations since there was a big drop-off in quality after MPP, neither CHz or any of the solo albums have been much good.
― ufo, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link
no way is MPP a New Jersey. If the AC have one song everyone knows, it's "My Girls."
Really psyched for Painting With. All indications point to something more direct and immediate than ChZ, with tons of Sung Tongs-esque vocal interplay.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah, and for anyone who still cares, Deakin's solo album is finally coming out next month http://pitchfork.com/news/62710-animal-collectives-deakin-finishes-long-delayed-solo-album/
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 January 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link
Definitely not a New Jersey. With a New Jersey, the hype is more of the pre-release variety, gained by from a previous release, rather than all of the critical accolades it gains after it comes out. You could maybe make the case for Centipede Hz as being their New Jersey, but I feel like that album didn't have a lot of hype going into it.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 7 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
it had a fair amount of hype, with the Honeycomb/Gotham single coming out in May, with a four month lead-up to the release of the record. and it had all the pressure of being the followup to Merriweather..."Today's Supernatural" definitely fits the bill as a single that was played a lot at the time and sort of forgotten now
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 January 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link
xps I found MPP to be patchy as fuck.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 7 January 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
really? what songs didn't do it for you?
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 January 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
I found that starting with Strawberry Jam, AC decided to go further and further down this route of claustrophobic bit-crushed noise that buried everything in this really clumsy, unrefined way. The lyrics became self-parodic and as ufo alludes to upthread, they became another chillwavish band in a sea of other chillwavish bands. Tracks I would save from MPP include Bluish, Lion In a Coma, No More Runnin and Brothersport. The rest I can take or leave.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 8 January 2016 13:40 (eight years ago) link
I think I still love or at least really like almost all the tracks on MPP, even years after binge listening to it.for me, that album is upthere with the best pop albums ever, no less !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 January 2016 14:07 (eight years ago) link
You know what? I really liked the Fall Be Kind EP that came out around that time. That's the last AC release I really loved.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link
Yes! Esp "What would I want"
― calstars, Friday, 8 January 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link
yeah - i remember hearing it live before it came out and thinking it was one of the best things i'd heard by them.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 8 January 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link
stop daydreaming dude
― calstars, Friday, 8 January 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link
Likewise! I saw them in Dublin in 2009 and they played it and I recorded the second half of it on my phone because it sounded great. When Fall Be Kind came out later that year I recognised it straight away.
― the_ecuador_three, Friday, 8 January 2016 15:02 (eight years ago) link
Video is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuoIvNFUY7I
― groovypanda, Friday, 8 January 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link
well that's not a bad track at all. i quite like it. Nice and bouncy. The production is a bit more solid than I'd come to expect from them. and I like the Wipeout sample.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 8 January 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link
What Would I Want? Sky is probably my favorite AC-track as well. I prefer Fall Be Kind to MPP. And like SJ and CHz more as well. I just could never get into MPP. But when I heard them live after CHz, I have to admit My Girls and Brother Sport were awesome.
― Frederik B, Friday, 8 January 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link
I agree that the Fall be Kind EP was great and somehow, managed to meet my high expectations following MPP.It was like having my own psychedelic era Beatles releasing a classic pop album and following it up with a stand-alone single/EP. only it didn't go further...I think I can is fantastic.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 January 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link
Already seems strange that these guys were the definition of the zeitgeist for a brief while.
yea it seems SUPER fucking weird tbh
― marcos, Friday, 8 January 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link
crazy that MPP was 7 years ago !god I'm old...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 January 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link
just as Nirvana inspired millions to play strats & DS-1's, the AC inspired thousands to use SP-303's and 404's
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
So the cover of fall be kind is so creepy. the shadow of an axe being swung overhead.
― calstars, Saturday, 9 January 2016 04:15 (eight years ago) link
my fiance couldn't make it through Floridada haha
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 9 January 2016 04:22 (eight years ago) link
i felt like after panda bear released person pitch, they could have gone a number of different ways with mpp. some of the early live versions of mpp were sicker than what ended up on record. i think they've been thinking about music for a live festival crowd since then. which is fine, i think fall be kind could be sort of a blueprint going forward for them, what would i want? in particular seems like it would sound good live in a big setting
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 9 January 2016 04:24 (eight years ago) link
dog latin otm mpp sux0r
― carly rae jetson (thomp), Saturday, 9 January 2016 04:29 (eight years ago) link
The FloriDada video is disgusting.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 9 January 2016 08:03 (eight years ago) link
― calstars, Friday, January 8, 2016 11:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whoa, never noticed that before! nice catch...
― flappy bird, Saturday, 9 January 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link
word is that Flo Rida is going to be on the FloriDada remix
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 10 January 2016 02:45 (eight years ago) link
surprised the PFFR video isn't more offensive. maybe they asked them to tone it down
― flopson, Sunday, 10 January 2016 02:50 (eight years ago) link
what else have they done?
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 10 January 2016 02:52 (eight years ago) link
woa they did it? i need to check it out.
they did Wonder Showzen and Xavier: Renegade Angel
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 10 January 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link
oh shit i've seen some of that Xavier: Renegade Angel show
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 10 January 2016 03:22 (eight years ago) link
yeah it hits the same acid techno mysticism vibe of the ac
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 10 January 2016 03:26 (eight years ago) link
Me neither but to me it's someone chopping wood (fall and winter be kind !) so not really sinister !
― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 10 January 2016 11:50 (eight years ago) link
I guess I've seen the shining too many times
― calstars, Sunday, 10 January 2016 12:52 (eight years ago) link
i felt like after panda bear released person pitch, they could have gone a number of different ways with mpp.
What's funny is that Person Pitch became a founding document for chillwave, but Panda Bear essentially abandoned that sound and went off in a different direction. The thing about that sound is how easy it is - you grab a little one or two chord sample from (preferably an old) song, roll off the bass, and drown it in reverb. Optionally add other samples in the same key (or pitchshift to match). Maybe find a choir sample you can loop. Then improvise your own melodies over the (largely static) harmonic backdrop.
I did a tune the ILX pre-covers Centipede Hz, and the second half of it is me doing the above to take the piss out of how easy it is. Easy isn't the same thing as bad, and I think Person Pitch is a great album that still holds up today. There was a ton of lazy chillwave stuff released that ran the formula into the ground though.
His subsequent solo stuff is put together differently - more synths, fewer samples, and a lot more chords (Ponytail has the most chords of any song on PP and it only has 3). I think this is important because the more chords there are and the quicker the changes, the harder it is to be melodic (see: bebop before modal and hard bop stripped things back) and I think his last two albums suffer a little bit from this.
Another thing from the Pitchfork interview:
The thing about Centipede Hz that also made the recording difficult was how we wrote it for the stage and, before recording, we did a handful of tours where we each had different monitor mixes onstage. So some of us got set ideas about what songs should sound like and where certain parts should fit in. Then, when we went to ooze all four of those different perspectives together—there weren’t battles, but it did lead to a lot of things staying in the mix.
Well there's your problem right there.
― the_ecuador_three, Monday, 11 January 2016 11:05 (eight years ago) link
The thing about that sound is how easy it is - you grab a little one or two chord sample from (preferably an old) song, roll off the bass, and drown it in reverb. Optionally add other samples in the same key (or pitchshift to match). Maybe find a choir sample you can loop. Then improvise your own melodies over the (largely static) harmonic backdrop.
This has always been my problem with PP and chill wave in general. I found PP to be kind of unexciting and easily-executed. Chillwav-ish music drives me nuts because it feels like the musicians/producers are somehow so embarrassed by their own music, they have to bury it under mounds of messy reverb. I don't find it transportive, just frustrating and artless.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Monday, 11 January 2016 11:28 (eight years ago) link
probably why i still think acoustic-era AC is the most interesting because the ideas are stripped bare and not covered in lacquers of plugins.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Monday, 11 January 2016 11:30 (eight years ago) link
I'm so happy a song with the title "Bagels in Kiev" is as good as it suggests
― calstars, Monday, 15 February 2016 12:09 (eight years ago) link
Pitchfork calling time on their relevance to the Pitchfork project:
"Now, they're parents living in different zip codes and riding the festival circuit... Times change, life intervenes. Painting With was the first time the band jumped right into the studio. Work can be scheduled, magic can't."
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 08:47 (eight years ago) link
Oh, the myth of the romantic artist, pulling magic from the air almost by accident. Pure bullshit.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 09:03 (eight years ago) link
?
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link
"Work can be scheduled, magic can't" - it's horseshit and it's not an idea that people in any other creative sphere that I've interacted with give any credence to. It's not an idea that a lot of musicians give any credence to - Bowie recorded Blackstar in sessions that were strictly timetabled, 10am to 4pm each day or whatever, presumably so he could fit it around family life - but some aspects of indie (and classic rock, to be fair) culture still have this frankly Randian idea that artists are special spectral snowflakes who just act as aerials for cosmic rays of inspiration. And it's nonsense.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link
It's certainly a romantic idea. I think there is room for both approaches.
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:41 (eight years ago) link
"Work can be scheduled, magic can't" - it's horseshit and it's not an idea that people in any other creative sphere that I've interacted with give any credence to. It's not an idea that a lot of musicians give any credence to - Bowie recorded Blackstar in sessions that were strictly timetabled, 10am to 4pm each day or whatever, presumably so he could fit it around family life - but some aspects of indie (and classic rock, to be fair) culture still have this frankly Randian idea that artists are special spectral snowflakes who just act as aerials for cosmic rays of inspiration. And it's nonsense.― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:38 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:38 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not sure I agree at all. How is the idea that creativity can't be turned on and off like a tap 'Randian'? How does it not fluctuate from person to person?
Creativity doesn't come from cosmic rays, no, but if you work as a collective (unlike Bowie who is a bit of a high watermark for comparisons and also a solo artist with full auteurist control on his work), you are influenced and inspired by each other, and the place where you are, and the environment around you, and the tools you have to hand, and how often you get to meet up, and how tired you are, and what you saw on TV last night etc etc...
I'm pretty sure Bowie was writing and coming up with ideas outside of the allocated times you mention. Nobody sits there and goes 'right, brain, give me ideas!' - it doesn't work like that at all.
I'll give you a musician who would give credence to the idea - David Byrne, who in the first page of his book 'How Music Works' challenges the idea that songwriters sit at a desk until a mad look comes over them and they start scribbling-down notes on a page.
References to kimchi aside, I don't really have much of a problem with the Pitchfork write-up. It's pretty much a summation of how I feel about 'Painting With...'. 'Animal Collective - The Ride' is OTM.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link
Maybe Bowie is able to write amazing music in his sleep, but even he's had some low creative points. Dare I say it, I don't even rate Blackstar all that highly myself, but it's a matter of taste. The writer of that review is saying that because AC now live in different pockets of the world and have many other commitments than they used to, their sound is starting to ossify. Their best work came from collaboration and having a lot of time to just jam around and play with ideas and not really having to worry about delivering a finished product every couple of years. This is very different from booking studio time and saying 'right, let's make an album', which might suit some artists down to a T, but in my mind isn't really suited to these guys.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 13:13 (eight years ago) link
Well I have problems with auteur theory too.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link
what is auteur theory when applied to music written and played by the same people?
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
I haven't heard the album but this is some real BS
Old heads will tell you that the most exciting part of seeing them live was hearing songs months, sometimes years before they came out on record: I, for example, remember being in the basement of a sushi restaurant in Charlottesville, Virginia, watching Sung Tongs before anyone knew it existed, or wading through Webster Hall to a gorgeous, slowly dawning song they later called "Banshee Beat." The feeling of that moment is hard to describe, but it was something like standing in the light of a secret.
I was there, man!!
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link
They're Pitchforking hard in that write-up, but I'm sad to say it's not wrong
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:13 (eight years ago) link
I didn't read that as a 'special snowflakes' comment - my take was:
a) Making music that relies on a certain amount of face-to-face jamming and serendipity is harder when the members are scattered around the world. Geologist is in DC, Panda Bear is in Lisbon, and I think Avey Tare is in LA. That's 8 hours worth of time zones. Working on stuff piecemeal like an oil painting and sending each other FLACs doesn't work for everyone.b) Your free time declines dramatically as you get older and accrue commitments have a family and in some cases help take care of sick parents etc, even if they are lucky fuckers with no day jobs.c) Maybe Animal Collective has run its course - I don't think they'll either do anything drastically different to what they've done before, or make another MPP, and the zeitgeist's moved on for now anyway.
― the_ecuador_three, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link
Oops, missed this before I posted but I agree.
― the_ecuador_three, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link
I was there, man!!― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:03
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:03
Or maybe not
Correction (2/16/16 2:04 p.m.): This review previously described hearing the album Sung Tongs at a concert in Charlottesville. The album in question is Feels
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link
Oddly enough for me this is the best thing since mpp
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
everyonesome people wake up at dawn and write until lunch every day, other people take a bunch of amphetamines and write for 4 days straight while their wife and children move out in the background.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
i need to start more sentences like that, i really like the effect
Old heads will tell you that the most exciting part of seeing them live was hearing songs months, sometimes years before they came out on record
this is otm. once they started touring the hits, it felt like they were just playing bad versions of the recorded songs. when the songs were fresh and unknown they had a different sort of magic to them
― ﷽ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link
Conversely, I didn't take to the songs on Centipede Hz much at all until I heard them performed live. They were absolutely great on that tour
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7O0rBGSqjI
i like this song/video
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link
I'm not sure I've ever liked one of their videos.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
I like that song though.
They did play a lot of the Centipede Hz songs live before releasing the record. So when did this "touring the hits" thing start, if it even did?
― Position Position, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link
i saw them twice post-MPP and the only new songs i can recall were 2 that ended up on fall be kind
i stopped following them after that so i'm not saying that they didn't ever play any new songs, but what was special about their live show IMO was that they virtually ONLY played new songs on their tours pre-MPP
― ﷽ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
I like this album. It reminds me of Little Creatures.
― a faded dose from rays gone by (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/Thlittlecreates.jpg
― a faded dose from rays gone by (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link
I really like this record. It sounds like they were tired of Foster the People eating their lunch and decided to make a pop record to show people they could do it. "Floridada" is probably the catchiest song they've written literally ever.
Also, the "ah we were so young and naive once" talk from pitchfork is fucking hilarious in the shadow of stanning for PC Music
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Animal Collective always felt like a "career band" even in the way that their first "big" statement was a 2xCD re-release of their first two albums.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
Floridada is good but I wasn't grabbed by anything else. not sure rereleasing your first two obscure albums to a wider audience counts you as a career band.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link
I like the new album better than the one prior to it, but I don't know yet it's the equal of that mid-00s rarified DAMN zone. Pros: great pop steez + it feels like they got back to the LP as a balanced, unified thing that isn't making concessions to a larger public or trample it. Cons: they're a bit frantic vocally and there's next to no drift (these were issues I had with CHz too btw).
Y'all will think I'm crazy for saying this but I'm gonna say it: I kinda want an AC era where the LPs sound like the AC equiv of killer Grateful Dead shows. Time to stretch out, lose their minds.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 February 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link
I am probably alone in this but I've always equated Animal Collective in the 00s with Tortoise in the 90s. Tortoise was this lightning bolt of WOW to a lot of indie kids and they spawned an obsessive fanbase. They felt fresh and unpredictable for about 7-8 years. Then they got older, their sound ossified, and they just sort of became this career band that you can depend on if you're into that stuff. Sort of feel like Animal Collective is heading in that direction.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 18 February 2016 03:25 (eight years ago) link
That seems accurate, this feels like the most prototypically 'Animal Collective' sounding album they've made, and it seems to have been pretty well received by their core fanbase while not being a real stylistic shift or leap forward like they were regularly making during their creative peak. I guess they seem more interested in exploring new territory for them in their solo projects these days, though none of that has really been successful or interesting recently.
― ufo, Thursday, 18 February 2016 03:53 (eight years ago) link
I like the vocal interplay on this one. A song like Hocus Pocus could be arranged for acapella.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:43 (eight years ago) link
Cons: they're a bit frantic vocally and there's next to no drift (these were issues I had with CHz too btw).
Yeah, since Strawberry Jam they seem to be obsessed with filling the entire dynamic and temporal range and there's a claustrophobia prevalent throughout a lot of their work. That's why I especially like the more ambient/ballady moments on MPP than anything else. It's kind of mad to think that this band once came out with Campfire Songs, which is a masterclass in dynamic restraint.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 13:03 (eight years ago) link
Savaged by The Quietus:
http://thequietus.com/articles/19709-the-lead-review-animal-collective-painting-with-review
Though the reviewer claims that they didn't go in with an agenda, the second sentence reads: " Sure, they were overpraised at first, as American man-bands so often are" which reeks of 'OMFG white ppl are so lame SMGDH'.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 18 February 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
lmao it's true, the british have never once overrated their own bands.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 February 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link
funny how he calls 'strawberry jam' their 'deserter's songs'. always saw that as an awkward, transitionary album.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:01 (eight years ago) link
i can't believe they've just released a song called 'lying in the grass' in 2016. jeeeeeesus.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link
"With Animal Collective's tenth studio album out tomorrow, Lee Arizuno explores the latest and most disappointing of offerings from "Little Donkey, Hello Kitty and Crazy Frog"
ouch
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:11 (eight years ago) link
Quietus review loses all credibility when it reps for Grumbling Fur but I'm sure this album is horrid
― odysseus (imago), Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
Haven't heard the album and may not hear the album - don't think I heard the last? - but "you can't go one bar without wanting to shout, "Go to bed!" is a really funny putdown.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:23 (eight years ago) link
That review is terrible, reeks of shame and embarrassment, and calls out the band for the very things they were praised for in 2005. It isn't criticism, it's someone trying to speak for/to/at an audience he imagines is craving that particular opinion. It has zero to do with anything on that record, and mostly to do with how out of fashion "faux naif" lyrics and garishly colored productions are (to him) in 2016.
It isn't bad journalism or criticism to point how trends change, or even to point out how a band's music isn't as "relevant" to the current music landscape. It's bad to offer critique without justification, eg explain why "faux naif" lyrics or "sing song numbers" are bad. One could effortlessly apply the exact same things to Sung Tongs, and even to the reviewer, that is a good record.
Of course, I haven't heard this record. Maybe it's terrible (tho the songs I have heard strike me as "more of the same" with perhaps more studio polish). I don't really even care about AC anymore (like, for the last 10 years) -- but that review is a good example of why I avoid reading most pop music criticism.
― Dominique, Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link
i mean, yeah. credibility had already been lost
― odysseus (imago), Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
I would agree with you, Dominique but to be fair to the writer, he does say in the final paragraph something along the lines of wide-eyed naivety speaking to him when he (and the members of AC) were in their 20s, but now he is approaching 40, he'd be more interested in their take on adult themes rather than this less-than-subtle attempt.
I feel that they were a lot better at doing the psychedelic whimsy thing in their 20s. By MPP, it started getting embarrassingly infantile.
― posted with permission by (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link
That review is terrible, reeks of shame and embarrassment, and calls out the band for the very things they were praised for in 2005.
exactly, neither this nor the Pitchfork review really explain why this is so much worse than their other albums, besides "well it's 10 years later and we're all older so.."
Quietus review is truly embarrassing, reads like a bad Maddox article
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 February 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link
DL, I can see your point -- I might even agree that I'd be interested in hearing AC make songs that spoke to what their lives are like these days, or how it feels to be 35 and in a band like Animal Collective. I might even counter that stuff like "My Girls" and some of Panda Bear's solo stuff does exactly this. However, you can't criticize a band because they don't make the songs you want them to make. You can really only talk about what they *have* made, and if the music's primary failing happens to be the same thing you (and I'm using "you" haphazardly here -- I haven't read anything by this writer on AC prior to this piece) praised them for years earlier, it comes off badly imo.
― Dominique, Thursday, 18 February 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I agree on that point. I think it would be fairer to say ' You've been in this game for years, peddling this kind of thing album after after album. The schtick was tolerable at first, but it's been verging on the parodic since the one before last and now it's seriously embarrassing'.
Something that frustrates me most about the concept of this album (and it's something the Queitus writer touches on) is the 'meta' conceit of actively referencing avant-gardism. Like, just because you're singing about Dada and have vaguely cubist/collagey artwork, it doesn't put you up there with those people. It feels weak. 'Animal Collective presents Surrealism', like a Channel 4 arts season.
― draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
It isn't criticism, it's someone trying to speak for/to/at an audience he imagines is craving that particular opinion.
very otm, good post dominique.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 18 February 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
since Strawberry Jam they seem to be obsessed with filling the entire dynamic and temporal range and there's a claustrophobia prevalent throughout a lot of their work
hmm. interesting take. i've always gotten a rollercoaster feel from it, maybe it's been the vocals that are UP and down and then UP and DOWN combined w the electronic squishy rhythms, actually conjures a "queasy" feeling, not that it makes me want to vom but it has that sense of, you are at a party, and you are really buzzing, and you are trying to maintain. this could just be me reacting to their general sound compared to other things i listen to (maybe it would go away if i listened to modern AC all the time) but for example the bass synth on "Golden Gal" has that phased effect that makes me think of the weird noises you hear when your stomach is turning.
just because you're singing about Dada and have vaguely cubist/collagey artwork, it doesn't put you up there with those people
eh i thought breaking down artworld elitism was one of the big themes of the day. automatic writing can be done by anyone, "artiste" or craftsman, they all dream. i like it, i think their stuff has always been cubist in its way.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link
"you know that what follows isn't some stunt hatchet job on a band I don't care for...co-founding member Teddy Bear has said"
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 18 February 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
yeah talk about hedging your bets
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
this band has always been an easy target for assholes.
not really interested in them condensing their sound further into a pop format, and i can see how that experiment might be a failure, but this quietus writer was free to describe that failure in a way that wasn't self-righteous and condescending
― Treeship, Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
i don't think centipede hz or any solo panda bear release has been about "bouncing around in neverland", really, so maybe my issue is with this guys' premise that the band has never expanded its thematic palette through the years
― Treeship, Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link
just read the pitchfork review. liked it. seemed like a much more thoughtful critique
― Treeship, Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
I've always had a problem with the strawmanny accusation that AC are all about being childlike/infantile/faux-naif, or at least I never used to get that vibe from them. The earlier stuff was more about deconstructing things like folk music into a kind of pre-formalised primitivism. increasingly though, the 'childlike/neverland' stuff is becoming harder to eschew though. I still think it's a bit unfair but AC certainly don't seem to be interested in proving those people wrong.
― draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
these guys are probably really going to embarrass their kids when they get older haha
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 19 February 2016 02:04 (eight years ago) link
The last two solo records by Panda Bear and Avey Tare were both really preoccupied with death and disease and loss. Centipede Hz was pretty intense & dark, too. This is the first thing they've done that's up all the time. and yea xp doglatin it always bugs me when people dismiss the AC as goofy or immature... most of their records are pretty somber and melancholic, haunted... Henry Darger, not Alice in Wonderland...
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 February 2016 02:17 (eight years ago) link
AC has always been about moving forward. I don't know why a longtime fan would be disappointed that they tried something new and made a record without playing it live first.
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 February 2016 02:22 (eight years ago) link
just picked up Here Comes the Indian, and I love it, as does my cat. I swear, when is the damn hype machine gonna catch up: NYC isn't no wave, it's NEW AGE!
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, July 31, 2003
there is some gold on this thread. gotta revisit HCTI soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW5-bz3JQcE
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 19 February 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link
Reviews are wrong. This is the best thing to come out of America since the polio vaccine.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 February 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link
:D
― Treeship, Friday, 19 February 2016 04:10 (eight years ago) link
I don't know why a longtime fan would be disappointed that they tried something new and made a record without playing it live first.
it just made me lose interest in their live show, not the records
― ﷽ (diamonddave85), Friday, 19 February 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link
2009 and 2013 were the only years they didn't tour an album or two ahead. and tbf, there were still a lot of surprises in the way they re-arranged old songs to fit the MPP and Centipede style.
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
the 2013 show was v. good. father time was way better live iirc
― Treeship, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link
listening to this right now on moka's recommendation
― Treeship, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
xp Yeah! I saw their re-scheduled show in DC on December 1, 2013. Father Time finally clicked. The Live at 9:30 album is great, too. The Centipede show really benefits from soundboard mixes. I remember listening to an audience boot of the first Centipede show in April 2011 and thought they had lost it. Just a total mess. After one full listen, I think the new one is much better than Centipede.
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
I think it's as good as Centipede, but those albums are trying to do two completely different things
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
this album is very short
― Treeship, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link
only two minutes shorter than strawberry jam
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
i lost track of this band years ago but if i love Floridada should i check out the rest of it? i assume so but i am bored and this blank box was in front of me.
― alpine static, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link
yes! hocus pocus is even better
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link
it's definitely an improvement over centipede hz & all the solo albums after MPP, but it's still a step below their peak. the backlash feels disproportionate but i guess for anyone who wasn't sold on them years ago or has since tired of their sound this would be very easy to hate.
the burglars is thrilling, definitely my favourite on this.
― ufo, Friday, 19 February 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link
quietus review leads like a long bout of clinical projection. dude might need to see someone about that
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
They played Alvin Row for the first time ever last night.
― Pentenema Karten, Saturday, 20 February 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
Which songs are Panda Bear's? So far I have:HocusBagelsGolden Gal
― calstars, Saturday, 20 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link
Bagels and Golden Gal are definitely Avey songs from what they've said in interviews, but it's harder to tell here because there's even more vocal interplay than usual
― ufo, Saturday, 20 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
Oh wow!
― calstars, Saturday, 20 February 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link
Trying hard not to make the Lennon McCartney comparison because that's already been suggested right?
― calstars, Saturday, 20 February 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
I think it works. Panda = Lennon, Avey = McCartney. At least lyrically. Avey's songs have a lot of rich imagery and characters, while Panda's are pretty straightforward internal/emotional.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 20 February 2016 23:36 (eight years ago) link
Hmm. I was thinking the opposite actually. Panda seems to emphasize melody and Avey the performance. But I really don't know the band all that well so.
― calstars, Sunday, 21 February 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link
Musically it's vice versa, but it's not as clear cut as their lyrics.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 21 February 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link
"Bros" is a "How Do You Sleep?"-level dig at the rest of AC for their reaction to Panda moving to Portugal.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 21 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link
This is pretty good. Better than the Panda Bear solo by a good mile or so. Not sure what the reviewers are listening to ... without the Animal Collective name they'd probably be calling it "brilliant weirdo avant pop".
― larry appleton, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 03:06 (eight years ago) link
So, whatcha think about it Treeship?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 04:05 (eight years ago) link
Animal Collective's peak critical / cool period was 2004-2009, right? ie. about a decade ago? You are never as uncool as you are 10 years after your peak. They're approaching their cool trough.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 09:38 (eight years ago) link
I'd been hearing this phenomenally irritating faux-jaunty song for the past week or so, had been assuming it was a side-project by some dreadful arse-end Britpop band, looked it up and was actually quite satisfied to discover it was 'Floridada' by Animal Collective.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link
Doing a bit of writing on japanese genre-cinema, now I can't stop humming 'shomin shomin shomin shomin shomin-geki. shomin-GEKI, shomin-GEKI' It really is quite catchy.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
lol wtf @ the quietus http://i.imgur.com/0KFi7iN.png
― ﷽ (diamonddave85), Friday, 25 March 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
What do we think of the single ?
― calstars, Friday, 25 March 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link
haha i think it's a right of passage to hate this band at some point
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link
What do we think of the single ?― calstars, Friday, March 25, 2016 6:14 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― calstars, Friday, March 25, 2016 6:14 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Grip Gnop" (Avey) is great, should've been on the album, might've gotten cut because it's sort of similar to "Floridada." The b-side "Hounds of Bairro" (Panda) is a b-side for a reason. I think it's a holdover from PBVSGR.
― flappy bird, Friday, 1 April 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
*Gnip Gnop
this is so squelchy
― 1st Amendment absolutist in favor of the unltd publication of sextapes (schlump), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 00:25 (eight years ago) link
#squelchiestnewmusic
― 1st Amendment absolutist in favor of the unltd publication of sextapes (schlump), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, February 22, 2016 11:05 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sorry for the delay. this is rad. i don't like the title or album art but the actual songs are just awesome
― Treeship, Thursday, 7 April 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
Deakin, folks
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 7 April 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link
Sleep Cycle is quite nice, much better than the last two AC albums
― ufo, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link
glad i finally got to hear "Loch Raven" and "Bees" live tonight. really good show. glad i'm seeing them again in November- they played about 3/4 of the new LP but not "Recycling," probably my favorite of all the PB vox-hocketing songs...
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 06:41 (seven years ago) link
gnip gnoplying in the grassspilling gutson delaythe burglarsverticaldaily routinejimmy mack (cover)alvin rowsumming the wretchfloridada---beesloch ravengolden gal
gnip gnop was a great opener. alvin row has always been a white whale for ac fans and the fact that they've been playing it at every show this year is neat but it's only one part of the 12-minute suite, the "dear alvin" section toward the end. loch raven and bees were so beautiful. lying in the grass and on delay stood out among the new songs that hadn't already clicked for me. i thought spilling guts and summing the wretch were different songs. floridada is the new peacebone as far as crowds are concerned. love the way avey slurs the chorus live. the cover was whatever i would've rather heard another song from painting with. daily routine, i feel like i've seen them play that at 4 of the 6 shows i've gone to, great song nonetheless... if i lived in DC i would double dip and go again tmrw...
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 06:48 (seven years ago) link
vertical rules
can't believe i'm saying this but Stereogum commenter OTM:
Animal Collective got popular during George W. Bush's administration. They literally put out their first album in 2000 and followed it up with an even more oblique album in 2001. They were a radical alternative to what would eventually be the uber-patriotic post-9/11 America.Their music was attractive because it offered a very distinct escape. "Pride & Fight" was only ever released on a live album because during the early 2000s, Animal Collective couldn't be bothered with repeating themselves. They weren't alone, but based on this performance, you can see that they had a very unique way of distancing themselves from the pack.Believe it or not, performances like this was what made them a common name in the indie-sphere of 2004. This band that wouldn't even play their recorded/released songs live was something many of us desperately needed. At a time of unfortunate stagnation, here's a band constantly shifting with no regard to needing extreme acceptance.Just as A.J. highlighted in the Killer Mike thread, old Radiohead seems to be hauntingly apropos right now. It's the same reasoning AnCo felt the need to whip out this 2001/2002 gem from their deep discography. All of a sudden, the off the wall music they made their name on is relevant in this country once again.Ever wonder why we stopped giving a fuck about Animal Collective in 2009? Early 2009, never forget. We got Merriweather Post Pavillion BEFORE Barack Obama was sworn in. Ever consider that album was like the celebration at the end of the Bush administration? That all their psych-folk tendencies were just a natural reaction to living in W's America? But now that new blood was entering office, their old ways wouldn't be as potent?Look at how we reacted to Centipede Hz and this year's (Did you even remember they released a new album this year?) Painting With . We had no need for it.But watching this video today, I recall how important this band was during a certain section of 21st century American history. This is the first time I've been triggered to watch an Animal Collective video in years, and I don't think it's just a coincidence considering what just happened in my backyard.
Their music was attractive because it offered a very distinct escape. "Pride & Fight" was only ever released on a live album because during the early 2000s, Animal Collective couldn't be bothered with repeating themselves. They weren't alone, but based on this performance, you can see that they had a very unique way of distancing themselves from the pack.
Believe it or not, performances like this was what made them a common name in the indie-sphere of 2004. This band that wouldn't even play their recorded/released songs live was something many of us desperately needed. At a time of unfortunate stagnation, here's a band constantly shifting with no regard to needing extreme acceptance.
Just as A.J. highlighted in the Killer Mike thread, old Radiohead seems to be hauntingly apropos right now. It's the same reasoning AnCo felt the need to whip out this 2001/2002 gem from their deep discography. All of a sudden, the off the wall music they made their name on is relevant in this country once again.
Ever wonder why we stopped giving a fuck about Animal Collective in 2009? Early 2009, never forget. We got Merriweather Post Pavillion BEFORE Barack Obama was sworn in. Ever consider that album was like the celebration at the end of the Bush administration? That all their psych-folk tendencies were just a natural reaction to living in W's America? But now that new blood was entering office, their old ways wouldn't be as potent?
Look at how we reacted to Centipede Hz and this year's (Did you even remember they released a new album this year?) Painting With . We had no need for it.
But watching this video today, I recall how important this band was during a certain section of 21st century American history. This is the first time I've been triggered to watch an Animal Collective video in years, and I don't think it's just a coincidence considering what just happened in my backyard.
http://www.stereogum.com/1910353/animal-collective-play-pride-and-fight-for-the-first-time-in-15-years-as-trump-wins-presidency/video/
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link
That's just silliness. I mean, their songs had titles like "Who Could Win a Rabbit" and "Daffy Duck". AC were great for a time, but they were hardly some kind of rage against the dying of the light in the Bush era.
― Position Position, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link
but they were never a silly band and they never made silly music. there's so much melancholy in their music, and the pre-SJ stuff is especially sinister. they offered another world, their freak outs during songs like Baby Day or We Tigers or Kids on Holiday or The Purple Bottle were closer to the deadly Dancing Mania of the Middle Ages than empty goofiness. it was dark catharsis and refreshing during a really bleak time in this country and in the world. they weren't raging against, they offered an alternative that was more than navel gazing.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
They made a lot of silly music - Who Could Win a Rabbit being a prime example. I think what made a lot of their early stuff interesting was the way they were constantly popping the dramatic balloons they were inflating--all their yelping and unpredictable percussion blasts and hardcore growls amidst droning ambient. They blended silly and serious like it was a Reese's peanut butter cup.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
The lyrics to Who Could Win a Rabbit might almost be a missions statement. It's basically a 'fuck the world' song, but instead of going 'relax, feel love, hold hands' or all of that, it's 'habit or rabbit rabbit or a rib habit or rabbit rabbit or a rib' The habit in this case being nuns uniform, the rabbit being anarchist farm getaway, and a rib being wordplay.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
I think a better candidate for a group that people stopped caring about after the Bush administration ended is The Thermals.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
So I listened to Sung Tongs with the lyric sheet from Genius, and there's a bunch of rage in there, confusion, abdication. But also, the last three songs, uhm, they're all about sex, and that's not really something AnCo was that good at describing.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
Dog of height in the treesWon't you come down doggySuch a sweet doggyI brought you your dinnerMy doggy I miss you kissing from my palm
I remember when I first got you doggy
But you lay there so still doggyYou lay thereSo still
Dog who fell to the groundTwisted your neck doggyDon't look right doggyThe vet came with suturesHe said "DaveHey the doctor cannot save your dog"
But I remember when I first got you dog
Dog of depth in the dirtThey buried you deep doggyYou're the best doggyMy friend has a doggyShe's real nice dogI wish you could chase her round my yard
I remember when I first got you dog
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
there ya go, i think a lot of people that think of them as this silly fuck-off band never read the lyrics. ^ Doggy is a great example, the whole Campfire Songs album is incredibly sad. the artwork for Spirit and Feels depict this children's book, henry darger fantasy gone wrong. look at the lyrics for Daffy Duck, one of the songs mentioned above, and it's not exactly some Pollyanna goof off. Feels, their "love record," is full of unrequited love and longing and loss:
What I need is good adviceCooked on plates around meRubber hands and silly friendsPasted on my wall
Someone saltA sweet sea soupThat I could swim in proudlyWe might swim like laughing ducksIn your pink lagoon
There we go changing againThere we go again
My hands can make yoursWarm againIf not absorbed in blanketsAre you in need of teen angst And nibble on your neck?
And if I had volcano boots For swimming in volcanoesDo you know the origins of laughing ducks?Oh what's a matter with those birds?
What you need's a happy farmWith happy goats and sheepWhat I need's a happy armTo swing ya 'round like father
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link
Re Doggy, it's sad but also infantile. It's infantile, but in a performative way. It's kinda creepy. I'm not sure I like it, particularly, and I definitely prefer AnCo when they're much more noisy and explicitly ugly.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link
i don't think it's infantile, it's just plain spoken and wistful. idk about it being 'performative' - i've been seeing this used a lot lately as a buzzword, essentially meaning 'inauthentic,' and i don't think that fits Doggy at all, or any of their songs. you could call AC a lot of things but i don't think they were ever inauthentic - their appeal was the intense and palpable emotion and energy that they gave off. Doggy might be one of the most straightforward songs they've ever written. Spirit is the best combo of the melancholy of the acoustic stuff and the explicit ugliness of their noisest stuff.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link
It's definitely infantile, it's regressing into a trauma from childhood, rather than dealing with the present. What I mean by 'performative' is stuff like the constant use of 'doggy', which continues even though it's made it's point. It's as if Avey Tare knows that he's a grownup pretending to be a little boy, and that's not so much 'inauthentic' as it's healthy.
I mean, AnCo were performative. They weren't animals. They weren't tigers. They were 'inauthentic' if we think authenticity means meaning what one says. They didn't, they were in character. But the characters communicated emotion as well. That's not true of stuff like My Girls and Brother Sport, though, which definitely seems to mean what it says.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
Gotcha. I think this is otm - when you said infantile, i was thinking of a literal infant throwing a temper tantrum, maybe something like the untitled third track on Spirit. it's definitely regressing (or revisiting?) into boyhood trauma.
i'm not sure about this - the whole being in character and dressing up in face paint and masks stopped after the Here Comes the Indian era in 2002. i never really bought the bit that they were in character after that, sure they had stage names but the lyrics became much more personal and they certainly didn't present themselves as characters on stage. just because they're singing "we tigers we tigers WOO!" doesn't mean they're pretending to be tigers. their shows became much less tribalistic after 2006 - by the next year they had already written MPP and were playing most of those songs live, and like you said, that record was their most straightforward yet (lyrically and musically).
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
That's so tenuous you might as well say their fall-off was a reaction to swine flu or the Gaza War or the death of Michael Jackson. It felt even at the time that MPP was a final destination rather than a stepping stone.
― the_ecuador_three, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
In other news this is dark and great and should have been on Strawberry Jam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rvPX8UlQ78
― the_ecuador_three, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Shit, silly band. Shit, silly music.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
xp Safer is a great song, and I see that it's been appended as the last track on SJ on all streaming/digital services... I still think they screwed up the production on SJ by going in the opposite direction as Feels. SJ has barely any reverb, none of the vocals (except Panda's) are double-tracked, all of the buildups and transitions were cut and the songs were consolidated... this approach worked better for the songs on MPP, and they got the atmosphere on that record right, but SJ would've benefitted from that gauzy, hummy sound of Feels. it would've been the darker/twisted twin of the lovey dovey Feels.
they corrected course when they mixed the Water Curses EP, there's more space and texture to the vocals. Street Flash is an SJ outtake and most days it's my favorite song by them...
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
I love Strawberry Jam. Not all the transitions were cut, For Reverend Green into Fireworks might be the best one-two they ever did. Besides that I think the record benefits from the constant switch between songs, whereas something like Sung Tongs gets stuck in each mood for too long.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
sung tongs shits all over strawberry jam from a great height tho!
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
xp that's true, i think they nailed those two songs and the transition between them. i'm probably biased because I saw them play most of SJ + Safer & Street Flash about a year and a half before the record came out, and they played the songs in that murky, drawn out Feels style. it's like how a lot of people upthread said years ago, Feels was a letdown for them because they were first exposed to those songs live and they were much louder, more raw, noisey. and the record ended up being more sedate and pretty. but since I heard Feels first, it remains my favorite, a perfect record imo, and i can appreciate the live recordings of that era on their own.
i'd rank the imperial phase as:
feels > sung tongs > spirit > mpp > indian > hollindagain > danse > campfire > sj
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
x-post: Nah. None of them are as good as Here Comes the Indian though.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
Indian > SJ > CHz > Sung Tongs > MPP > Feels > Spirits > Danse > Campfire
I should relisten to Spirits though. Also to figure out what to vote for..
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
glad to see you included CHz, and so high! i think that's a great, messy, complicated record that I still haven't quite cottoned to completely, although I think "Moonjock" is one of the most riveting things they've ever done. i only excluded CHz and Painting With (which I love, too) because MPP was definitely a culmination for them, and they drastically slowed down. they used to put out multiple things a year, and ever since the turn of the decade, it's been 3-4 years between records.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link
When I saw them live after CHz, they did Moonjock into What Would I Want, Sky? for an opening 15 minutes in 7/8. That got bad reviews.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
oof, sounds sweet. i only saw one CHz era show, right at the very end when they rescheduled some shows in December 2013. i was burnt out after being such a hardcore fan for five years that i skipped their two pavilion shows in 2011/12. really regretting it now. the two times I saw them this year they were so great, new songs are so much better live
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
Listening to Centipede Hz for the first time in forever and it is holding up a lot better than I remember.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link
Now I'm listening to Painting With for the first time since it came out. "Floridada" is easily one of their worst songs. The album improves immensely if you don't let that opener spoil your appetite for more.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link
The Deakin song always kills my interest when I listen to Centipede Hz. I suppose I could skip it.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I could never get into Wide Eyed. mostly because the premise is so daft. I feel like after MPP, the AC started to fulfill all the dumbest stereotypes that people pinned on them: psychedelic drugs and craaaaaaaaazy graphics and tie dye and nonsense animal lyrics (the very ending of Applesauce).
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
by the way, if anyone hasn't listened to the new album or any of this year's shows, I highly recommend this recording from a couple weeks ago in New York (done by NYCtaper, so the quality is sweet). imo this live era has been one of their best, they're using more modular synths instead of samples and it's really opened up the songs and made each show pretty distinct. the Jimmy Mack cover is wild, they've been doing it all year and it's really become the centerpiece of the shows, sort of like the new Brother Sport. Avey has been going off on these wild harangues in the middle, sort of like a Southern Baptist minister.
https://archive.org/details/acollective2016-11-02.t5
01. Recycling02. Lying in the Grass03. Golden Gal04. Summing the Wretch05. Loch Raven06. On Delay07. Jimmy Mack [Martha Reeves and The Vandellas]08. Water Curses09. FloriDada10. The Burglars11. Kids on Holiday---13. Hocus Pocus14. Guys Eyes15. Summertime Clothes
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
banimal bollective
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link
that nyctaper gig is great! feels like jimmy mack is taking the place of (the possibly overdone or in need of a rest) fireworks.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 05:53 (seven years ago) link
sweet hour-long interview with noah and brian https://soundcloud.com/noeffectsshow/72-animal-collective
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
New Avey Tare is fairly good. Not quite as good as Meeting of the Waters, but sorta the same sound, and much better than I'd expected. These guys are having a much better 2017 than I would have thought.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
Still haven't heard it, waiting for my LP to ship 🙃
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
haha my friend doesn't like them because 'they sound like the beatles'.― cozen (Cozen), Friday, February 6, 2004 6:30 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 05:20 (six years ago) link
i didn't know they'd released music since 2012
― crüt, Monday, 19 February 2018 08:14 (six years ago) link
been playing fireworks on repeat for a week. beautiful melody, and the change halfway through... agh. avey has a magic touch underneath that sea of electronics. go back to 'spirit they're gone' for his whimsical, ethereal, fantastical bare songwriting. i swear that album is so unique - sonically, dynamically. never heard anything like it.
oh, no! my singing voice is gone! my singing voice is gone! my singing voice is gone!
― meaulnes, Monday, 19 February 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
new album Tangerine Reef out August 17.
https://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2018/07/Animal-Collective-Tangerine-Reef-1531756837-640x640.jpg
1. Hair Cutter2. Buffalo Tomato3. Inspector Gadget4. Buxom5. Coral Understanding6. Airpipe (To a New Transition)7. Jake and Me8. Coral by Numbers9. Hip Sponge10. Coral Realization11. Lundsten Coral12. Palythoa13. Best of Times (Worst of All)
"Hair Cutter" is really cool, sounds a lot like the calmer moments on Here Comes the Indian.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link
new song debuted last night in Atlanta at the first show of the US Sung Tongs tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DQH5KFbCU8
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
3. Inspector Gadget
Could you BEEEEE any more....?
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
Saw the Sung Tongs show in LA and, aside from a few moments, really disliked it. I love the album but watching these two grown men sing infantile gibberish really hammered home how dumb the whole endeavor is. Made me appreciate the way they grew on later albums—Fuller, noisier, more complex. This show felt less like revisiting old material than regressing to a lesser state.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 2 August 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
ha, right on. they peaked at their first album if you ask me. aside a couple of cuts on later LPs, everything else is silly bollocks.
― meaulnes, Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
I was surprised by my own reaction though because I absolutely did not go into this show as a hater. In fact I’ve seen them twice before—on the MPP tour at the Troubador, one of my all-time favorite shows ever; and a few years later at Hollywood Bowl, a decent show with big high points. I think there’s something to recommend in nearly all of their albums and the run up to and including MPP is pretty remarkable. Something about seeing them in this stripped down fashion though, really deflated the experience. Judging by the crowd reaction I may have been alone in this feeling.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
pgwp maybe alone in it, but fair for you to feel how you do
saw them on strawberry jam tour, in which they mostly played material from Merriweather. Honestly these guys are insufferable to me now, though the sung tongs pitchfork performance was a nice bit of nostalgia. I have most of their records and EPs but would likely give them away for free if anyone wants to pay postage
― eris (Ross), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
always interested in AC vinyl, ILXmail me if you're serious.
― sleeve, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
no vinyl sorry, should have said CDs
I have water curses, prospect hummer, sung tongs, merriweather..etc
― Ross, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
no worries, someone else might take you up on that though! still don't think I've heard Water Curses but boy do I hate Avey's "yelp" style vocals that pop up in the later work with distressing frequency
― sleeve, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
yeah, otm
strawberry jam seemed to avey taking over way more and making it his own roadshow. the panda songs were always the best IMO
― Ross, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
*seemed to find
Feels reissued on vinyl today, unreleased live recording uploaded: 8/22/04 - Neumo's - Seattle, WA
wastereddid you see the wordskids on holidaypeopleloch ravenbanshee beatthe purple bottle
― flappy bird, Friday, 21 September 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
finally listened to "Painting With" and it's...kinda fun actually? I mean I get that this and Centipede don't feel special the way MPP did but they're still pretty neat, I feel like if a different band had recorded those records they would've been much better received
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
I recommend the live recordings they've released from the PW tour. I like the album but it honestly felt more like a justification to tour and put on that amazing show. The lack of transitions is what sinks the album for me- they're jumping off points. the whole sound palette of this record was really well suited to extended transitions and blending. the album is too discreet for me
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
DISCRETE
(sorry)
― sleeve, Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:19 (four years ago) link
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:09 PM (one year ago)
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
Idk, Avey Tare squealing "wheee!" in response to Noah's descending scale motif on Leaf House may be the smartest thing I've ever heard on a pop record, as well as the most playful.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
It works on record. It did not work live.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 20 December 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
Interesting. I don't totally love any of their albums, tbh. All have some elements I really like and others I find offputting. Well, to be fair, I haven't heard them all, and of the several i've heard, some are more familiar to me than others. A couple I keep meaning to spend more time with...
On Sung Tongs it's that preppy, collegiate vibe that repels. And maybe it's just a product of the 60's folk-pop reference points. But the infantile regression therapy stuff is actually what I find most appealing in it.
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 20 December 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
the first Sung Tongs show, in December 2017, was one of the best shows I've ever seen. some of the most powerful crowd energy ever- I understand what you're saying and I imagine that it lost some of the magic when the toured it, but goddamn, the energy in the room that night, the brilliant surprise of COVERED IN FROGS into Winter's Love, the transcendent Visiting Friends... it was an amazing night.
PB was also going wild vocally that night- it was a throwback to the original ST shows I've seen online from like 2003.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 21 December 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link
they were very good for about three years (2003-2006) but Merriweather Post Pavillion was horrible and established their later signature 'terrible' sound and now its been almost 15 years since they released anything decent. Sung tongs/feels/campfire songs were all great though.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link
Am in general agreement--Prospect Hummer also holds up well in the EP dept IMO
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
Strawberry Jam was the harbinger of the decline.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
pom otm, much prefer MPP to Strawberry Jam. But MPP set the template for the unlistenably busy sound of what came after.
Sung Tongs and Feels are both painfully classic though
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link
When they lost their initial sense of off-handed, accidental exploration and started camping on the Respectable Art of Timeless Songcraft, I couldn't help but feel like trawling for 9.0+ p4k scores had become their sole raison d'être (it worked, mind you).
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
Aka their earlier stuff really was better.
I saw them many times in the window plax mentioned. Those shows, most of which were built around the Feels songs, really were amazing. When that album eventually came out it was a huge disappointment, and I never really put my finger on why that was. All the chaos gone, perhaps
― Priory, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link
When they lost their initial sense of off-handed, accidental exploration and started camping on the Respectable Art of Timeless Songcraft, I couldn't help but feel like trawling for 9.0+ p4k scores had become their sole raison d'être (it worked, mind you).― pomenitul, Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― pomenitul, Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
LOL not a chance
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 07:39 (three years ago) link
Agree with everything here. I quite liked 'Fireworks' but Strawberry Jam was unpleasant, and MPP only had about 2-3 good songs in a mire of bad production choices and over-precious lyrics. I will vouch very much for the concurrent 'What Would I Want, Sky' EP, which seemed to nail that direction a lot better and is just a nicer record overall.
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link
cranking "brothersport" and imagining recent opinions as hipster runoff posts ca. 09
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
feels sounded like arcade fire is what happened
― brimstead, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
I got into them at the time of Strawberry Jam & Person Pitch, and I'm still generally fond of those records, as well as Sung Tongs and parts of Feels. Also I still regard MPP as a major achievement for them. Saw them at the Troubadour when they toured that album and it ranks among my favorite all-time concerts. Just thrilling.
That said... I've been ambivalent at best to anything they've done, as a group or solo, since then. And I saw Avey Tare and PB do the 10th anniversary tour for Sung Tongs a year or two back and found the whole thing really infantile. I probably posted about it upthread somewhere. And though I feel nostalgic for that album and SJ and MPP, I truly don't pull out any of their records with much regularity any more.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link
I actually liked Painting With quite a bit, it's not great but I probably listen to it more than MPP these days
fwiw I think "Lion in a Coma" is the high point of their career
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 August 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link
Feels is great, all that crawling under the surface, like something on your skin
― plax (ico), Friday, 7 August 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link
Wow, I love their dense psych stuff but I often skip Lion!
― assert (MatthewK), Friday, 7 August 2020 07:54 (three years ago) link
here's my MPP God Mode playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1V8PN4AHytamvJYvwoBXUR?si=LZvpjE44RDuvvpdQXJ7dDg
Basically cut out the more formless and cloying bits and replaced them with cuts from Fall Be Kind. I'd happily listen to this
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 7 August 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link
Seriously though, listening to these songs in this order is so much more enjoyable to me:
GrazeBrothersport What Would I Want SkyOn A Highway BluishLion In A ComaI Think I Can No More Runnin
short and sweet at 43 minutes but it opens and concludes nicely and no adobe slabs
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 7 August 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link
for the late period haters (I'm not), don't sleep on ODDSAC
― assert (MatthewK), Friday, 7 August 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link
I have not listened to ODDSAC since seeing it in a theater but I recall enjoying! It led to a personal goal to visit the state park in PA where they filmed the scene with all the boulders. Finally achieved a few years later, psychedelically enhanced iirc
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link
a couple things
1) maybe it's the herbal supplement but I've finally started to connect with these guys as "the music of childhood"...particularly there's something about the bass sounds they use, those clunky little Atari noises that for me really do seem to trigger memories of being like, 4 years old. its hard to explain but there's something about that sound that hits me in a weird place.
2) Painting With is a great little record, I think I like it more than any of 'em save for MPP and maybe Feels. I like that winky-wonky noise
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 December 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5iJ9wt4paY
New single... sounds great?! Finally some production with a bit of breathing room in it.
My guess is they have been chowing down heavy on The Dead.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
Best thing I've heard out of them in years.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
This is the step they needed to take.
Painting With was cluttered and exhausting
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link
And most of the soundtrack side stuff they’ve done since then has been a shrug at best
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link
This is good, I dig it. I really haven't enjoyed an AnCo release since MPP (I know, we are all supposed to hate that one) and haven't loved one unreservedly since Strawberry Jams. Looking forward to the new one now though.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link
(Not ALL of the side stuff has been bad but a lot of it had been just sorta there)
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link
I'm not really sure why the ilx hivemind (unless it went beyond that somewhere) decided we are supposed to hate MPP. Seemed a lot like a predictable anti-hype backlash contrarian thing, but it's not like I asked around or anything. I personally don't have strong feelings about that album one way or another, except that I liked how it relatively wasn't so busy and frantic. To that point, this new track seems like a nice way to mature their sound! Cool development.
― Evan, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
I don’t think MPP is inherently bad - whenever I come back to it (intentionally or when Apple Music shunts me to a track) it’s a thrill. At the time I was writing about it and had been heavily anticipating it and … just burnt myself out on it.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link
I'm probably the rare person here who loved Centipede Hz. I've probably posted about it somewhere, but never gotten any bites. I never really jumped onto the backlash wagon with them, but their music just resonated less with me over time. This new song is pretty cool, if not super distinct. My interest is piqued, though.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:42 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yea I wanna revise my opinion on this the album really does wear you out if you listen to it at once, same boing-boing-boing-boing rhythms and alternating vocals on every track. I do think the songs are mostly good though, especially the side openers.
Centipede Hz is the one I think that needs re-evaluation, I think a lot of people were suffering from AnCo burnout at the time and maybe didn't appreciate how freaky this album gets. it's quickly becoming a favorite
new song sounds quite nice. i think it would be cool if they did something less hyperactive w/o being all droney and weird
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
Good song except the simple repetitive melody
― nostormo, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
CHz has definitely grown on me over the years
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link
new song is ok
mpp is good, just not the masterpiece it was hyped in the press as at the time. chz is ok, there's some good stuff on it but it's a little overwhelmingly dense & not as strong as what came before.
there are apparently two new albums on the way next year, not just time skiffs. story is they have a ton of new material but weren't happy with their attempts to record half of it remotely during the pandemic. they've been playing a lot more than just the time skiffs material live.
― ufo, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
Wide Eyed from CHz is one of my favorite AnCo tracks ever, they should let Deak sing more
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link
My favorite AC thing in the last while is actually the Deakin solo record
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
Deakin is back for this song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link
New track is very pretty, love the Rhodes on it
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
Prester John” is the result of two distinct songs—one by Avey Tare and one by Panda Bear—woven together
i dont get how this (from pitchfork) could be true.. its just one melody the whole time?
― flopson, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link
nice melody though
Cautiously optimistic. This sounds better than most of their material from the past decade, however Deakin is not involved in the whole album and this is described as the best song from fans who’ve apparently heard pretty much the whole record live at this point?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link
make ya monkey rich
whos excited for the new album. should I start a thread er nah
― frogbs, Friday, 28 January 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
I feel bad for rejecting Animal Collective post Centipede Hz. I think I owe it to them for all the good times to check this new one out.
Loved Avey Tare's Eucalyptus whenever that came out. Up there with my favourites from the AnCo catalogue. Ambient AnCo > Chaotic AnCo = Pop AnCo
― hrep (H.P), Saturday, 29 January 2022 02:46 (two years ago) link
New thread idea: rank AnCo styles: Ambient, Noise, Pop, JamI would like to resubmit: ambient > jam > noise = pop
― hrep (H.P), Saturday, 29 January 2022 02:50 (two years ago) link
I think Centipede might actually be my favorite album of theirs
― frogbs, Saturday, 29 January 2022 03:02 (two years ago) link
It's got some tight melody's I'll give it that. I put it on a few months ago and thought it had aged well.
― hrep (H.P), Saturday, 29 January 2022 03:12 (two years ago) link
This Prester John track is great
― hrep (H.P), Saturday, 29 January 2022 03:13 (two years ago) link
I really love a lot of the Centipede tracks - Wide Eyed and Monkey Riches especially - but I've really started to appreciate Rosie Oh sounding like a really fucked up thing from Ween's The Mollusk. like even Ween could never dream of something that mutated
― frogbs, Saturday, 29 January 2022 04:00 (two years ago) link
Listened to Centipede HZ again on this threads inspiration. Anco at its most prog but damn can they spin a banging melody. Very tight collection of songs. OTM re: Ween comparison. Applesauce might be their best singalong, so many fun parts to put your voice to. The album really fits into the PC Music era. Would love to hear a version of the album without any vocals as the instrumentation stands on its own as a highly developed world. Could see this hypothetical version released on warp as a new artist and pull in handsome reviews.
― hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 00:25 (two years ago) link
many years on, with some diversions and evidence to the contrary (what the hell is that ending to applesauce?), I am still convinced Avey Tare is a genius of songwriting, one of the best of 2000's. I regret the stigma that attached to AnCo which undervalued how great their songwriting really is (regardless of opinion on style).Spirit they've gone is the miracle that proves my point. April and the phantom, Penny Dreadfuls and Alvin Row as the beginning of your songwriting output? Get out of here!
Speaking of reevaluations: Down There. Will take it above Person Pitch any day; it deserved an equal amount of praise. Laughing Hieroglyphic best song on depression? Best Anco Melody? Most appropriate production? Best use of accordion in pop? I'm not sure, but it makes you ask.
Okay sorry I know waxing lyrical on AnCo is a nono
― hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 00:48 (two years ago) link
agreed that spirit is absolutely remarkable for a debut/songwriting (never heard anything as simultaneously challenging/beautiful/dark/whimsical), but i fail to hear it in any other of their records regardless of the style... maybe 'feels' at a push...
― maelin, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 01:05 (two years ago) link
I'd argue Tracks 4-8 on Strawberry Jam reflect Spirits essence pretty well. In particular Cuckoo Cuckoo feels like a shorter, high production value, amalgamation of the three spirit songs I mentioned.The thing with spirit is that it couldn't be replicated because it was a coming of age album (all arguments to the contrary need to read through the lyrics again.) and the thing with coming of age is you can only do it once. A spirit 2.0 would not have the maturity present in making an album like that at their immature age. I don't have much time for Danse Manatee but I do think it was the right choice in their progression.
AnCo really wear their emotional growth/stages on their sleeves with each album. From the distance there is a clear storyline progressing in their discography. Centipede got hit because it was the first plateau in their emotional progression. relative plateau anyway because I think there were still some newly developed heart on sleeve moments.
Spirit carried on throughout their discography with the childhood motif in their lyrics. Spirit was the concentrate of lost innocence in lyrics which leak onto every album and define AnCo's lyrics.: ahhhh good country, doggy, slippi, banshee beat, #1 and cuckoo cuckoo, brother sport, applesauce, etc.
― hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 04:11 (two years ago) link
Spirit has a very unique sound to it, something that I think is only really possible in a debut album - everything is so crisp and paper thin but not in a way I think anyone would want to replicate. Outside of the very low bass everything seems to occupy this high frequency, it's like a chunk of it is missing or something. Avey's voice almost hasn't even dropped yet, he doesn't really sound like that on any other album. I have a live recording where they do "Alvin Row" and it's amazing & clearly they're a way better band...but it's not as ethereal as it is on the album.
fwiw I'm not sure how I rate it as an album. it does a really good job pissing me off right off the bat. its definitely got some magic to it though. personally, I feel their 5 best are Feels, Strawberry, MPP, Centipede, and Painting With. the 5 most recent lol
new album appears to have leaked. RYM people seem to like it. I suppose I'll grab a copy when it's actually out.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link
My poor ears just can't take the frequencies involved in 'Spirit They've Vanished' so I ran it through an audio cleanup plug-in and plucked out the two main offenders, at least I can listen to it now.
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 23:23 (two years ago) link
Pretty incredible to take off so hard as a band with spirit as their first album, don't think anyone could expect their MPP success 8 years on from this utterly strange debut. Forgot how abrasive the first track is, not their standout that's for sure. The noise and repetition does allow the title lyric and melody change at the 3:30 minute mark to hit harder than it should.
Written about this before, but I really believe Catcher in the Rye and Spirit They've Gone are two pieces cut from the same cloth.
― hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link
new album is surprisingly good, a real return to form. plays to all their strengths while still breaking new ground for them & it's also the best they've ever sounded production-wise.
vibes this time are 'the 70s' and 'exotica', it's very lush & loose
― ufo, Friday, 4 February 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link
that's awesome, I really liked the recent "We Go Back" single. hope the store has it in tomorrow
something was recently pointed out to me that blew my mind; proto-Animal Collective is not The Beach Boys, but rather the track "Schooldays" by Gentle Giant
― frogbs, Friday, 4 February 2022 03:55 (two years ago) link
I think you should and still not too late
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 February 2022 04:00 (two years ago) link
okay fine
― frogbs, Friday, 4 February 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link
lmao the picture they picked for this
Panda Bear shares 17-minute ambient track rejected by Calm app https://t.co/a6MV0trByL pic.twitter.com/oTR9RoTgp8— THE LINE OF BEST FIT (@bestfitmusic) April 12, 2022
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 03:35 (two years ago) link
just saw them in Madison last night. it was really good!! incredible set list, lots of stuff from Time Skiffs plus like 3 new songs, one of which was a total showstopper. I didn't realize how much they fuck around with the arrangements live. cool crowd too, reminds me of a Ween crowd but younger. the lady next to me might've been the biggest AnCo fan on the planet.
― frogbs, Monday, 25 July 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
Nice, I couldn't go and honestly I'm not much of a fan, but it seemed like kind of a crazy opportunity to see them in a relatively small venue, for not very much money. Glad it was a cool show.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 25 July 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link
listening to the new one. “prester john” knocked me on my ass! “cherokee” sounds very classic anco in my mind, the kind of sound that made me fall for this band when i was a teenager
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
yeah Time Skiffs is great!
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
Yikes.
Getting bad out there, friends.
pic.twitter.com/1AZGjgSluo— Animal Collective (@anmlcollective) May 26, 2022
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
That's from May, isn't it?
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 10 October 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
Ah, so it is. Just saw that. It popped up in my feed because the writer Marc Masters retweeted it. The point remains!
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
There's actually a newer post about a tour cancellation from them, which is why the older post got retweeted most likely.
Hard to imagine how any band is making it on tour right now. Rough times. pic.twitter.com/pHUlBhJUDY— Marc Masters 🌵 (@Marcissist) October 10, 2022
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Monday, 10 October 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link
That’s a real bummer, if AnCo can’t make it I’d imagine the vast majority of the bands I like can’t either
― frogbs, Monday, 10 October 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link
Brutal.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 10 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
Santigold also cancelled recently also exposing how unsustainable touring has become.
I’d imagined that a bigger indie act like Animal Collective wouldn’t face this challenges but the situation seems grim.
It will also become a domino effect I think, smaller venues breaking down and indie artists finding it harder and harder to do large tours. I think for international tours, indie acts will only be sustainable on big festivals and short circuits in the dates around the festival.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 10 October 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link
Truss crashing the pound made it uneconomical for US bands to get paid in sterling?
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 10 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
I was stunned when the pound came close to matching the dollar (coming within a dime). I didn't know how bad it was until I placed a Discogs order from a vendor in the UK and the total in U.S. dollars seemed completely off.
― birdistheword, Monday, 10 October 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
yeah exchange rates are clearly a big part of the problem (as they mention), the us dollar is extremely strong at the moment, going beyond just the insanity of the uk
― ufo, Monday, 10 October 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
also ticket sales are probably down in general due to tough economic conditions + every act in existence trying to tour this year but no idea how much of a factor that would have been for them
― ufo, Monday, 10 October 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link
Also, AC are not selling as they used to maybe?
― nostormo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link
i doubt it for reasons of popularity when this year's album was their best received in over a decade
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
Sadly in this day and age critical plaudits are not necessarily an indicator of popularity or ability to sell tickets.
― Davey D, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 03:09 (one year ago) link
Idk about the other dates but they sold out Madison Wisconsin
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link
they seemed to maintain their popularity pretty well even when they had a few less well-received albums
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link
Spirit *finally* gets a reissue, with a bonus 3rd LP to boot
https://www.dominomusic.com/releases/animal-collective/spirit-theyre-gone-spirit-theyve-vanished-remastered-2023/exclusive-limited-triple-lp
this album is special and I'll definitely be buying it but man I really hope the remaster tones down some of those insane frequencies
― frogbs, Monday, 13 March 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
really looking forward to hearing that "dreams" cover
― ufo, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
why would you want to tone down the extreme sonics? it's what makes that album so special! i've still never heard anything like it, ever. the drumming is immaculate, and to think it was recorded to tape is even more impressive.
― maelin, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
because it gives me tinnitus
― frogbs, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link
^^^ yeah this remaster is incredible, still sounds like it was recorded at home but without sounding like a home recording, if you know what I mean. it does tone down the sonics a *little*. people say they're amazed that a 17 year old made all this but to me it sounds like something *only* a teenager could write. the difference is it's actually good
― frogbs, Saturday, 8 July 2023 03:27 (nine months ago) link
Incredible album. Frequencies definitely part of it. Maybe I am still a teenager at heart but I don’t know why it seems like something *only* a teenager could write (barring some self-indulgence, but no more self-indulgent than many adult artists). Some great lyrical chops, perhaps a little on the nose for some in places (April and the phantom in particular. I am fine with on the nose though!). April and the phantom, Penny Dreadfuls, and Alvin Row remain some of the best AnCo stuff every done to me. The thing that makes this album unique in their catalogue is the story-tale quality of most of the lyrics. Slight notes of it in Strawberry Jam and Feels, but the stories are far more extensive in Spirit (and seem less “personal”, though I am sure they probably are).
― hrep (H.P), Saturday, 8 July 2023 03:53 (nine months ago) link
new album sounding pretty good on this flood-y morning. "stride rite" is exactly what i want out of animal collective these days.
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 September 2023 15:41 (six months ago) link
Animal Collective - Time Skiffs (2022)
i posted about it in the time skiffs thread when it leaked a few weeks ago and it's pretty good, just really falls off with the last two songs.
― ufo, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:11 (six months ago) link
yeah panda probably should’ve kept “all the clubs are broken” in the vault or reworked it for his next album with sonic boom
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:17 (six months ago) link
This new one was reminding me a bit of mid-late era Stereolab even before "Gem & I".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:54 (six months ago) link
The vocal harmonies on the second track give me serious Alice In Chains vibes. (Mind you nothing else about the song reminds me of AIC).
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 03:12 (six months ago) link
hah I hear it too! is it maybe the backing voice is an octave lower and it's a descending melody? feels kinda grungey.
really digging this one as well. dunno if it's better than Skiffs (it probably is) but it definitely feels weightier. 2nd half of "Magicians from Baltimore" is pretty cool, playing a jauntey ragtime piano melody over a song that's like half the tempo it needs to be is a real signature AnCo moment I think
"Defeat" maybe their best song yet. though I guess that's cheating. ending part really gives me chills. was so cool to hear this live before anyone knew what it was, I thought it was like 3 new songs in a row
don't mind the last 2 tracks but it feels like "Stride Rite" is the last track and these are bonuses. I actually love "All the Clubs are Broken", it sounds like a playground song! and "King's Walk" sounds really cool! I mean you do vocal harmonies really well why not give this sort of thing a shot just once
― frogbs, Saturday, 7 October 2023 03:38 (six months ago) link
I need to catch up with them, the last I heard from them was the “meeting of waters” ep which I liked a lot but haven’t been in the mood for Animal Collective in the past 5+ years.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 7 October 2023 03:42 (six months ago) link
the most recent two albums are definitely a return to form and in some ways the best they've ever sounded
― ufo, Saturday, 7 October 2023 03:59 (six months ago) link
Idk about “Return to form”, first of all I really like Centipede and PW, secondly they haven’t really sounded this mellow before have they? But yeah could argue these are two of their very best
― frogbs, Saturday, 7 October 2023 15:18 (six months ago) link
actually I take that back, this is like the album Fall be Kind was hinting at
― frogbs, Monday, 9 October 2023 14:44 (six months ago) link
On first listen this seems a lot "straighter" than most of the stuff I know by them. 'Soul Capturer' sounds like a more accessible of something off Feels, and it seems to have quite a uniform sound. But I need to listen more. If it's anything like Fall Be Kind then I'm interested
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2023 14:51 (six months ago) link
If this is in the same vein as Fall Be Kind I’m sold. That’s probably the best thing they ever did.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:03 (six months ago) link
Along with Prospect Hummer, yup. Thos eare the two I would mostly be interested in listening to these days.
That said, I don't hear it - it's a pleasant listen but I'm hearing their most "indie rock" oriented work so far; like they're going back to their original influences of bands like Pavement, and yes Stereolab. It's also quite a slow album - not many uptempo tracks here. Quite pleasant to have on in the background so far, and I'm quite glad for the lack of low-key highly annoying noises they are sometimes wont to litter around their records
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:17 (six months ago) link
Rather enjoying the extended track 'Defeat' though
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:27 (six months ago) link
Haha, it goes full on Pacific Ocean Blue in the second half. Love this track
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:29 (six months ago) link
Ok not listening the influence of Fall Be Kind, or not exclusively at least… it’s more of a synthesized version of their whole career?
Really like how this is probably their album - haven’t heard a lot of what they’ve been doing in the past years tho - with the most emphasis on drums and bass on the mix, but I can understand if some people might not like how it sounds.
I can definitely hear the Stereolab influence somewhere in there and also a lot of dub in the bass and the way it’s mixed clearly at the upfront.
Agreed that the two last tracks could have been cut off. “Stride Rite” would have been a great closer. I do wish the piano solo was mixed higher in that one.
Overall not bad, much better than what I would have expected.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:46 (six months ago) link
I'm quite glad for the lack of low-key highly annoying noises they are sometimes wont to litter around their records
100% agree, also these new ones have less of Avey's yelps which I appreciate as well
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:49 (six months ago) link
'Stride Rite' really doesn't sound much like them at all. Makes me think of Lambchop or any of those Americana bands who occasionally stray into Sinatra-esque swing-balladry. Very nice. Yes, would have been a perfect closer
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 9 October 2023 16:00 (six months ago) link
maybe it's just specific sounds that reminded me of FBK, maybe all the layered vocal bits like in "What Would I Want? Sky" or how these calm passages would suddenly explode into something else like in "Graze". or maybe how the last part of "Defeat" sounds like an even more stony version of "On a Highway".
that said a lot of people on here disagree with my "sounds like x" comparisons so take it with a grain of salt :)
― frogbs, Monday, 9 October 2023 16:46 (six months ago) link
Xpost: “Stride Rite” is a Deakin song. If you haven’t heard “sleep cycle” it’s one of the better projects related to AnCo I’ve heard.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:01 (six months ago) link
they've done plenty of floaty piano songs like "stride rite" before - first half of "graze" (there's your fall be kind comparison), "daffy duck", "safer", etc.
people just coming to this album should also listen to time skiffs which is this one's sibling (the material was written at the same time, and only ended up on two albums due to recording constraints caused by the pandemic) and a little better. it's even more like mpp/fall be kind, it's like the chiller moments from those filtered through 70s exotica
― ufo, Monday, 9 October 2023 22:23 (six months ago) link
Defeat is awesome. First part is reminiscent of "bees" (my maybe favourite song from feels). Love when AnCo loses the drums and geologist gets to do his thing. You can tell they ain't kids anymore with this one
― H.P, Friday, 13 October 2023 09:39 (six months ago) link
This while album is incredible, almost exactly what I wanted to hear from these guys at this point. Just an incredible run since Time Skiffs and I hope it continues.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link
This is the first time since 2005 that this band will make it into my top ten albums list.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 October 2023 18:06 (six months ago) link
"defeat" has more than a little side 5 of tales from topographic oceans realness
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 October 2023 21:40 (six months ago) link
The mood and the melody of Deakin’s song “Stride Rite” called to mind one of my favorite Josh Ritter songs,“Myrna Loy”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0_b7wM5-mY
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:29 (five months ago) link
It's easily one of their best albums
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:00 (four months ago) link
Yes!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:07 (four months ago) link
definitely in A) the sheer amount of lyrics and B) the fact that it takes forever to get going
I like it more than any of the TFTO tracks as a whole though
hearing this live was probably one of my coolest show experiences ever - I try to not look at setlists beforehand, all I knew was they were likely gonna play some new stuff. I had no idea they were gonna play so much of it, much less a tune that was 23 minutes long. once it got to the ending bit I remember looking behind me and just seeing a sea of transfixed faces, nobody was talking or making any noise. I've never quite seen a general admission concert get like that before.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:22 (four months ago) link
At the show i went to, my friend wouldn’t shut up his mouth through the whole thing. Still good though.
― BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 21:21 (four months ago) link
I keep forgetting about this.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 2 December 2023 02:10 (four months ago) link
So have most publication year end lists, so you’re not alone!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 December 2023 17:04 (four months ago) link
you know what I actually like the way the album ends. I think given the downtrodden nature of the album and the fact that it's starting to set in just how long these guys have been together ending on a acapella track like that is a cool idea. like one of those in the end we've all still got each other sorta vibes. "All the Clubs are Broken" is the one that really doesn't fit, I actually dig it a lot but it doesn't belong here
― frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 05:11 (four months ago) link