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anyone heard of them? what do you think? they put on a ridiculous, incoherent, noisy live show but there recorded stuff is good.

― tom cleveland, Monday, 7 April 2003 22:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

check my Campfire Songs thread from earlier today

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

I saw them open for Wolf Eyes at the CPOP Gallery in Detroit last year and man, they were great. I was less impressed with the album I bought from them -- it seemed a little restrained after the chaos of the live, and reminded me of Mercury Rev in some ways, but it was pretty good. They've got something new out, don't they?

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

Jeff - yes. Campfire Songs, on Catsup Plate, and it sounds as much like Mercury Rev as Bryan Adams sounds like Borbetomagus. Also, if you can find it, their live album is astonishingly great

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

well when i saw them it was only 2 people and they got taken off the stage as they made 150 people leave the venue. i told the guitarist it was the most ridiculous, fantastic thing id ever seen.

― tom cleveland, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

hands down, one of the most amazing bands/groups going today.

music for animals.

― msp, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

Check out the Avey Tare et al.'s albums Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished and Danse Manatee. Great stuff. I saw them live last April and it was a really great show; they started off wailing almost Greek-chorus like keeing or whatever. Totally great.

― Andy Beckerman, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

english kids: they're playing in brighton alongside black dice and others at some fatcat records show case... can't fucking wait

― snake assassin, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

'danse manatee' is utter genius..... the new material i saw them doing last year was totally explosive, and i'm excited to see what their next record will be like.

― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

I agree, "Danse Manatee" rules. Wish I hadn't slept on the live album before it totally disappeared, though...

― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah, was that live album 'out' for about 5 seconds or is it just my imagination?

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

Not very many of them were pressed. I remember seeing it at Other Music a couple of times, but then it disappeared.

― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah... it was a tremendously small pressing... they didn't even make it out of their west coast leg of their tour with any copies.

anybody pick up any of their t-shirts on their last tour? i bought one. bright turquoise with flourescent designs akin to danse manatee the art! it's too small sadly. the wife wears it.

― msp, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

eep! eep!

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

they pressed 300 - i ordered 15 copies for my distro and went through em damn quickly. i shoulda ordered 30.

― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

the covers were just other record covers turned inside out - and not dollar records, either - mine is Simon Joyner's Joesephine EP. The orange paint flakes like crazy though, every time I put that record on (which is often) i have to break out the dust-buster. Well worth the trouble, though

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 18:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

I had heard the live record was put out by a Secretly Canadian side label, and that all the covers are just reappropriated SC record covers.

― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

that's the whole focus of the st. ives label - to recycle extra LP sleeves. i think my animal collective LP is on the inside of an old chokehold LP!
i believe they also put out a record for the microphones and sold through those even quicker, i bet.

― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

so i'm listening to the avery tare and panda bear lp (the first one i think) and.. well it's underwhelming. if animal collective sound like this i'm not too excited anymore. the singer has that annoying, nasal whine a bit like every other us schmindie vocalist out but especially like the guy from flaming lips. the first song has these amazing trippy, kind of saccharine but slightly sinister washes of noise, but then by 'bat you'll fly' it sounds like.. um, pavement. and mercury rev. and tortoise. and lots of other bands i don't really like. is it supposed to sound like this? can anyone convince me otherwise? and how are animal collective different? i was really looking forward to there show over here with black dice in may

― schnellschnell, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

please thread don't die

― schnellschnell, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 19:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

schnell
i don't know if you will come back to this, but if you are looking for a more experimental sound, I would definitely advise you to pick up some newer AC recordings. Danse Manatee and the live album are out of print, Campfire Songs is beutiful and acoustic, so you might want to wait until Here Comes the Indian comes out in June, it is really crazy and unique and good

― ano ano (ano ano), Sunday, 11 May 2003 21:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Here Comes the Indian came out and I think it is their best record.
Anybody else heard it and have opinions?

― Magic City (ano ano), Thursday, 19 June 2003 19:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

after one listen i was floored. those guys are doing something, i don't know what it is, but they are doing it right.

― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 19 June 2003 19:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'm pretty well blown away by it too. still not my favorite, but definitely a close second to the live album. I'd recommend it highly.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 June 2003 02:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

:'O

this is brill

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Friday, 27 June 2003 13:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Heard them playing this album at Rocks in Your Head (age-old Soho record store here in NYC) this week and was completely struck by it in a weird sort've "what IS this?" sorta way.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 July 2003 03:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I just picked up Here Comes the Indian, and I love it, as does my cat. I swear, when is the damn hype machine gonna catch up: NYC isn't no wave, it's NEW AGE!

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

This could sneak up to become my fave from this year if they don't watch out.

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was totally jazzed to see Avery Tare and Panda Bear about a month ago, and I was so, so bored and disappointed. I haven't heard the records, and I don't know if the full group is any good, but wow. Sounded like Beaches and Canyons except somehow even more aimless and formless. Total snoozer dud.

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

I saw them earlier this month, and though they didn't really sound too much like the record, I wasn't disappointed. I guess in a pinch I could probably do without so much "autistic drumming" (my friend's description). But I thought they seemed remarkably "together", as in I don't think it was all aimless, it sounded like they were actually playing "songs".

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think the Beaches and Canyons comparison is pretty apt, actually. They don't necessarily sound similar, but this is what I was getting at w/my (half-tongue-in-cheek) New Age comment.

I mean it as something positive -- these are records I listen to in a less-than-conscious way. Maybe akin to what Eno was talking about way back when regarding his "ambient" music, but with a more organic (shitty word, sorry) feel.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 31 July 2003 17:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

...

― adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 05:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

saw them again last month, huge club (700 people)... organic strum drone und klammor. upthread = EEP EEP!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 October 2003 00:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna see them next week. The turn out will probably 40 people, as usual.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

Okay, gygax! Where'dya see them? They played at The Ramp in Berkeley.

― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

uk tour this month

details

www.fat-cat.co.uk

fat cat are also releasing their last two albums as a double cd in the u.k. next monday so i will finally get to hear them.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 2 October 2003 10:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is the 2-CD repackage of their first two records going to be released in the States?

― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 2 October 2003 12:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

adaml, i saw them at slim's cuz i couldn't make the ramp showwwwwww.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 October 2003 13:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

they had promo copies of it sent in the states. the new art is *unfortunate* but at least it'll hit outside of new york city. i hear they are recording new 'songy' stuff as a duo. it should be kin to what they were doing on tour, which i heard was telepathic.

― andy, Thursday, 2 October 2003 13:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

can i have a copy of this, colin? will travel, can supply own cdrs!

― raphael diligent (Cozen), Saturday, 29 November 2003 16:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh my, i wish! - i am too broke to buy a thing, sorry. I havent seen it anywhere either.

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 29 November 2003 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

i am still fairly floor'd by everything i've heard, but especially spirit... (the reish is def in my top 10 this year)

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 29 November 2003 21:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

I love this band with all of my little heart. But mostly when I'm on a little bit of the something something.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 29 November 2003 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan. I bought Danse Manatee when it came out, because it was cheap and it looked interesting, and then I emailed the address to find out more about them. This was what, two years ago? I was still in school. One of the guys from the band emailed me back, and told me about Spirit, which I bought as soon as it was back in stock at Other Music. I really love the Spirit album, I think it's one of the most beautiful art records that I've ever heard. I like the Campfire Music and Here Comes The Indian, but nothing on either of them blows me away as much as "Penny Dreadfuls" or "Essplode."

God bless them. I hope that Avey Tare eventually comes around to making more "pop" records at some point, though. I think that melody, lyrics, and structure suits their style very well. I can appreciate the crazier, more free-form music, but it doesn't move me nearly as much.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 30 November 2003 00:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was excited to hear that Panda Bear "opened" for the Kompakt gig in NYC recently by singing over a DJ's tracks, just like that cute Colette DJ from Chicago (or is it L.A. now?). Really like their albums, but I'd love to get ahold of a live set of theirs. Like Mr. Quintron and various garage bands I've seen recently, they really seem to shine the most when they play live, and no studio recording is going to capture what they're capable of. They're grrrrr-eat!

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

What is this spirit that you speak of?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Never mind, I have it in my sights now.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

RE: pop, yes I like it when it's pop and wish there was more

RE: Kompakt gig...Panda Bear has performed while singing on top of Other Music's Scotty Mau(a fantastic DJ) before, they called themselves "Jane"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

not a big fan myself but thought you'd get a kick out of this piece by the great Rod Smith: http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0330/music-animal.php

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Jane CDRs are really good. They made very very few of them and sold them at Other Music.
The new AT and PB record will be quite a bit poppier than anything recently and should be amazing. I don't think it is coming out for a quite a while, unfortunately, even though they already recorded it.

― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 1 December 2003 17:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

"The Jane CDRs are really good. They made very very few of them and sold them at Other Music."

D'oh! I'd love to hear them. I'll be in NY later this month. Do you think there's a snowball's chance in hell they might still have any?

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

now i'm a fan. (colin, i'll fix you up.)

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

this kinda sounds like how i wished the oxes sounded like when i was dreaming about them, even though nothing like them.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

'bat you'll fly' really sounds like the russian futurists. did anyone hear that russian futurists record or what?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

i) this is better through headphones.
ii) he can sound scarily like billy corgan in places; meep.
iii) danse manatee isn't as good as the first disc : /
iv) maybe that was the earphones thing, cos i listened to it through speakers (cf. i).

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

i like the russian futurists lots but i've never noticed a similarity - i'll have to listen again.

has anyone else heard Hollindagain?

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think it was just that particular track, toby.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

i should listen to danse manatee again, i've only heard it once.

actually i should listen to all their albums lots on headphones, i don't get to play them much at home cos ppl tend to complain.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hollindagain (or whatever its called) is their best - unfortnately, it's now impossible to find.

What's this "Jane" CDR??

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

Campfire Songs! Campfire Songs! Sounds nothing like the rest of their material! But it's REALLY PRETTY and REALLY DRONEY.

Ho hum. Is Hollindagain the live album people are always talking about?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah i really really want to know more about this "jane" cdr (cdrs?).

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 08:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh and i totally see where you're coming from re russian futurists.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

hollindagain is supposed to be reissued, i think on paw tracks but maybe fat cat? dunno when.

jane is a duo featuring panda bear (under his own name) and another party i wasn't able to place. very beat-oriented, possibly even clubby. i have no idea where their cdrs might be available, i got a copy from a friend of a friend, who found it in a used been in a store that isn't around anymore in houston.

― Mark Flaum, Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

On one of the Michael Mayer threads on ILM someone wrote that Jane is Panda Bear "singing" over DJ Casio... I think that's write.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

magic city's post

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

ts: memory vs. spelling

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

what is 'here comes the indian' like?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 02:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

New live dates from the paw-tracks page, which means new material!
February 20th - New York - Barnard College with Need New Body and White Magic - Prentis Hall - 632 W 125th St.

February 21st - New York - Knitting Factory with the Numbers

March 27th - New York - Anthology Film Archives

Deacon told me it might even be danceable!
Plus jane is playing with Orthrealm and Black dice next Friday at the Knit. New York's long dark winter is over.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also since a lot of people were asking: the Jane CDRs were released in photocopied black and white 7" sleeves which made them look kind of like a punk band. The covers are really nice though and they often feature the steal your face dead logo.
They made them all themselves, very few, I don't know how many and I guess they are all gone. They have been talking about putting out a 12"
One description I read somewhere is Cologne beats with psych vocals. Pretty true. The vocals are heavily effected, like a lot of AS stuff. One song, "Coconuts" sounds like reggae. That one and solid gold wall are my favorites. Most songs are around 20 minutes long.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell - i've asked at other music twice and written Noah personally, and those CDRs are GONE, man - please put it up on soulseek!!!!

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like Terrestrial Tones.

but as far as the AT & PB stuff is concerned, what little I've heard all sounds like Cornelius.

― Roger, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

roger, I would except, well, I don't even own a computer.

Roger, have you only heard Spirit...? If you like TT I would reccomend Here Comes the Indian esp the "Two Sails" and "Infant Dressing Table" tracks.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell - i guess then a burn is out of the question?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

roger, I'll see what I can do. I probably can use a friend's computer.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'll take this opportunity to mention (for the sake of anybody reading this thread who hasn't made up their mind about buying it or not) that nothing i read from ilxors before buying prepared me for it.

i was expecting some sort of fried elephant six acid folk - instead i got dense sheets of tape manipulation and scary noises. i honestly feel this stuff is closer to stockhausen than elephant six.

i've heard some live jackie o motherfucker bootlegs (very heavy on turntables) that start to approximate the sound but yeah, it's very very tapeloop/effects heavy.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Vahid, which record did you buy? My guess is you bought "Here Comes.." It's like the opposite of what I said to Roger. All the Elephant 6/ Flaming Lips comparisons make sense, maybe, when talking about Spirit or Campfire Songs.
The other stuff is definitely fucked.
But, in gerneal, I don't think Avey Tare gets enough credit for his ability to write hooks. Even the most effected, distorted material has a hook, imo.
eg the repeated vocal "hiccups" in "Infant Dressing Table" or the simple keyborad line in "I See You Pan"

The new record, recorded as a duo of AT and PB, is maybe the most acid folk material thus far. It is mainly acoustic guitars, fun percusion, and catchy (but still fucked) songwriting.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha my friend doesn't like them because 'they sound like the beatles'.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

great hook: 'doggy' from campfire songs (still remaining the only animal collective i own due to being poor/slsk not working in the dorm--kakadelic???)

x-o-x-xo

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell - wow yeah i'd super appreciate that and promise to share with other ILXors, who are also, doubtlessly, jonesing to hear it

i have much to trade - email me if yr lookin for anything - can also pay postage and some extra if ya want

by the way, Avey's split with Grubbs on FatCat is awesome. there's an animal collective lp coming out on Fat Cat this year too

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

for some reason i tend to forget that half of "dusk at cubist castle" is abstract tape experiment. maybe that just shows that compared to animal collective or JoMF the e6 crew are tapeloop dilletantes.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell: good guess!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think i can hear that beatles thing actually!

i dont like this that much any more either tho.

― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

i really hope you can sort something out with those jane cdrs, i'm dying to hear them. i wrote to the animal collective and they suggested trying other music again, and a couple of weeks ago they said they'd be getting some in last week, but i've heard nothing since :-(

zemko have you heard hollindagain?

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

keep up zemko!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

~~prima fassy~~

it was a good pun. it was just too punky. people would call me fassy and think it hurt. close your eyes little one! ack

― zemko (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

havent heard hollindagain no, it's the fat cat one right? feels a bit like the ship has sailed. i wanna hear the russian futurists more now! didnt fancy the double lepers either huh toby

― zemko zemkingdom (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

i miss prima fassy :(

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure you'll like the russian futurists, prima fassy.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

i d/led the first 3 rusfut trax off the website.

i hate it like the universe

― cozemko (bob), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

shame on ya for missing double leopards!

I wanna hear this after vahid's stockhausen mention. he also sounds like the beatles.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

eh caveat emptor - i am not a stockhausen expert!!

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

hollindagain's the ultra limited live album that's impossible to find. except on slsk.

my flatmate was ill yesterday and i promised to cook her dinner, hence no double leopards for me...

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 7 February 2004 08:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

how do they do THAT?

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

wow, just downloaded the grubbs / avey split and it is really nice. very pastoral and mellow. the field recordings on abyss song are great. apparently there is a new album

might as well bring it up again, but if anyone would want to trade for the jane cd or has it on slsk i would would love to hear it!

they posted some new tour dates on the paw tracks site, euro / uk mainly (in april):

http://carparkrecords.com/pawtracks.html

― marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

er, i meant to say apparently there is a new paw tracks comp and panda solo album out this year...

― marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

the 30/4 london gig will also feature manitoba in some capacity i believe (djing?). i'm quite tempted to go to the 25th april one as well...

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

manitoba step off

why don't they play atp? : / invite them, malkmus!

wow they're playing glasgow with múm!

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah is the coronet the place near elephant and castle? that will be cool...wow, buffalo bar will be nice too, so small.

― marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

if this is gd, which it probably will be (hollindagain!!!), then i'll probly follow them through to edinburgh too. colin?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

christ they're still so good, almost telepathic. the reports from the last show they played in nyc have made me jealous in a way i havent felt over a band in a long, long time.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have been listening to campfire songs every night before i go to bed for a month now. i havent had any bad dreams, so i am reluctant to stop.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

they're playing in scotland 3 times over a week I think.

here's the line-up fr the triptych gig:

Andre Williams, Explosions in the sky, Fennesz, Animal Collective, Dabrye, Matthew Dear, jd Twitch and jg wilkes, eyoe dj's.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

dunno who aw is, never heard explosions nor dabrye. but fennesz, dear, ac and stirmonster!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm really sad that I didn't get off my ass and see them either of the times they played in NY recently. Campfire Songs = amazing beautiful.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 5 March 2004 04:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

the show a few weeks ago at the knitting factory was one of the most beautiful things i've seen in years. glasgow people, do not miss it! ian - for shame!

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

i hate your lauren! i believe i had a paper due the next morning, but there was no reason for me not to go the show at barnard.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

they're playing 3 times in london, too. i'm def going to two of them, not sure about the third...

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

seeing 'em again tonite (friday) in red hook, if people want to come with!

just got an advance copy of the new animal collective in the mail...and the article included w. the press sheet is the one i wrote! ahaha! the circle is complete!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

what new one? the paw tracks one or the fat cat one?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 5 March 2004 08:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

where/when are they playing toby? (can't find tour details on web bah).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 March 2004 12:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

julio have a look here:

http://carparkrecords.com/pawtracks.html here are the dates. not sure what the 3rd one is...

April 25th - London, Old Vic Theatre w/ múm

May 6th - London, Buffalo Bar - TBC

― marcg (marcg), Friday, 5 March 2004 12:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

thanks marc.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 March 2004 12:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

third one is toby's living room!*

*this may be a lie.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 5 March 2004 13:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

this one!

April 30th - London, Coronet Theatre, w/ Four Tet

actually it's with loads of ppl, matt dear, explosions in the sky, manitoba etc etc. i'm def going to this one and i guess the buffalo bar too (are tix on sale yet?).

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 5 March 2004 15:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

NYC People should come tonight to the hook 18 Commerce st in Red Hook.
Also playing is Blood on the Wall, another great NYC band.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Geeta I was so sure I'd see you at their Barnard show.

― nabiscothingy, Friday, 5 March 2004 17:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a barnard show!!

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

geeta, that's what nyhappenings is for, duh. Blood on the Wall CD is coming soon, looks and sounds good...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 5 March 2004 18:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

playing live in london tomorrow yo

but the half of sung tongs i've just now heard i don't find a tiny bit as good as 'here comes the indian'. i suppose this says something about me huh

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Their tour with Black Dice will surely be my demise.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

its a bit like the devendra lp too actually like how where the 'progress' everyone's handwringing about i thought was much better left implicit in the supposedly difficult earlier stuff, and now it's been triple underlined some pretty magic has fallen away

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh fuck i forgot the football's on

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

prima i love sung tongs, but you were otm there. if anything it's depressing how much people are perking up now that good microphones were used. it don't seem to be about the music necessarily.

― duke off, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

hey if i played rubberband man rmx over jadakiss 'champ is here' and went and listened next door i would get the best track on sung tongs!

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

whoa

― duke boo-yaa, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't look at it as "progress" so much as a detour. They'll go back and do something noisy soon enough I'm sure, but they're developing this one side of their sound on this record and I think they do so quite nicely. But it's definitely more accesible than anything else they've done so of course more people are going to like it.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

rumors have it one of them is moving to Portugal, so I wonder how much they'll be doing together in the future.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

but the noise is by the by! thats the whole thing, the old stuff was just as accessible

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

prima otm

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

shorter songs and obviousness is a pretty poor understanding of "poppier"

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

word

― duke letter, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

they played to like 20 ppl here and everyone liked it.
un-beleivable live. great albums. prefer here comes to danse manatee.

peace,
a

― andrew jones (andrew jones), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

heard four songs of theirs now and my reactions range from vague interest ('penny dreadfuls') to active dislike ('you could win a rabbit').

― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

the one time i listened to sung tongs outside, as the sun was going down, drinking a beer, half falling asleep, it sounded GREAT. the rest of the time, less great, but still pretty good. if it's "pop" anything it's the "pop" version of campfire songs, but what made that record so good was how long the songs all went on for, droning into each other.

i still think they've yet to top spirit... to be perfectly honest.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Campfire Songs" might be the greatest nap album of all time.

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

agreed. i was listening to it every night before i went to bed for a long while there in the fall.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

i saw them last friday and they were fantastic, definitely well worth going to see them. but i'm probably not going to go tonight as i am teaching in cambridge all day and will be tired. but we'll see.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 May 2004 05:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

is there a nonantagonistic way of saying i find the occasional "u gotta be in the right mood" apologism a bit suspect? here comes the indian made me feel that way, not the other way round. i will make the effort to here spirit... tho. 'you could win a rabbit' sux 4real. i'm not sure i get where fluxblog's coming from at all. come to think of it strike 3 on my sophomore slump fauxpop hitlist might be fiery furnaces! my indie operatives darkly grumble something about fatboy slim. but i'm reserving judgement on them for now, u know what indie ppl r like after all

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 6 May 2004 14:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

What am I missing with these guys? I'd rather just listen to the Wicker Man soundtrack.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

i find the occasional "u gotta be in the right mood" apologism a bit suspect

Agreed, but no more suspect than "it sounds great on a spring night driving on the highway with the windows rolled down." What *doesn't* sound great then?

And music that's "right for every occasion or mood" probably sounds like eggshell wallpaper.

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Thursday, 6 May 2004 15:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

epilogue: haha i did go see em that nite, but everyone stood me up so i ws alone and sad and thus the gig was like woooooooo! ironing huh. but er objectively they were terrific, and they can do it acoustic too. they oughta lose the scary rabbit head prop if they don't totally want to be the donnie darko soundtrack band tho

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 8 May 2004 08:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

new video:

http://www.fat-cat.co.uk/amcollective_small.mov (8megs)
http://www.fat-cat.co.uk/amcollective_large.mov (20megs)

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

be sure to watch during your lunch break

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

that's not the innocuous suggestion it appears to be, it's a trap!

― duke barf, Friday, 14 May 2004 18:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Eat y'self fitter!

― sexyDancer, Friday, 14 May 2004 18:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

i kept waiting for it to get weird, and then it did.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Eat y'self fitter?

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

sell sell sell

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

You're too smart for here:

― sexyDancer, Friday, 14 May 2004 18:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wot's a computer?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Eat each other?

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

I said-ah G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O-G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O-G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O-H-O-9-O-G-O-H-O

― SexyDancer, Friday, 14 May 2004 19:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

there's another, live video hidden on the fat cat web page, show's 'em playing "winter's love" with a segway into the "she's gonna have a baby" chant. it's about six or seven minutes i reckon.

www.fat-cat.co.uk/animal_web.mov

it's nice!

― naturemorte, Saturday, 15 May 2004 04:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

So I've been listening to AC lately and I like them and everything, it's nice, but I'm also thinking that this is kinda Phish for people who hate Phish. Something about the combination of cuteness and twiddlyness (granted, they're production/sound geeks instead of virtuoso jam geeks, but that's what I mean about being for people who hate Phish). And even though people who hate Phish might like Animal Collective, I bet people who love Phish would like them too.

― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 05:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

and/or they're Sigur Ros if Sigur Ros was from Brooklyn or wherever Animal Collective is from...

...or they're the Polyphonic Spree for noize dudes...

...or the Moldy Peaches for Laurie Anderson fans...

― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 05:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

spittle, rolling stone said the exact same thing about ac and phish in their review of sung tongs.

― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

i'm having some conceptual trouble reconciling their jam bandiness with my hatred of all things jam bandy. as you suggested, the sound/production angle let's me pretend that it's the processed semi-formless noise that i'm responding to and not the noodly bongo strum bits but i'm not sure i believe myself. that said, i can only really get behind a relatively tiny portion of their output

― m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

i see them as what would happen if the Beach Boys had taken loads of acid in the monkey house at the zoo. i don't like to think of them as a jam band in any way whatsoever.

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

I got more of a Phish vibe from the last Black Dice album. The spacier (non-Hawaiian-sounding) guitar parts really remind me of Phish's more ambient stuff.

― Holla back Trey, Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

b-b-b-but they don't jam!

― Bbeta, Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah, the phish comparison upthread leads me to believe that person has has heard neither phish nor animal collective.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm confused, too, especially if that's being leveled w/r/t Sung Tongs: the parts of the album I like best I like best almost entirely because they're so coherently-crafted -- despite, you know, sounding like they wouldn't be. (It's the distance between "meow, kitties" as a Kogan-style "free lunch" throw-in and "meow, kitties" as a composition!)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

the panda bear album leaked on slsk the other day... it sounds like what i imagined
animal collective would sound like by the way people describe them -- whereas animal
collective themselves seem to remain more or less indescribable (in alternately good and
bad ways).
i'm going to go see them at the echo in LA this weekend... anybody seen this tour yet?
playing with black dice... last time i saw black dice they sounded like lightning bolt
which i wasn't in to... what should i expect from both camps?

sung tongs is describable i guess.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

they are selling the panda bear cd/album (well this is his 2nd record) on this tour for $10.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

hm. then am i thinking of an avey tare solo record? someone's father died and an
album was recorded memorially... that's what i knew... i had trouble placing this panda
bear record... which was s/t, as that album, by the sound of it.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

yes the one you describe is the one they are selling.

panda bear's first album is long OOP (the first Animal Collective related release? 1999?) and very hard to track down material copies of.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

There are 2 Panda Bear records. An old one that I hear he's kinda disowned, pretty good indie/krauty/home recorded electronic pop stuff, and the new one Young Prayer which is out in september but promos are out now and they're selling them at shows I guess. I haven't listened to it yet.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

their music's more powerful than your pollution.

(nb: this is a more general point, I don't like nu-AC.)

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

"moldy peaches for laurie anderson fans" sounds perversely great.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

my dad finds it deeply distressing that with my record collection i still have no space
in my heart for laurie anderson... though i did use the 'sorry.... i'm not home right now....'
bit for my answering machine for a while. i think that that was the sole reason my dad
re-extended his offer to pay for school for me (after i fucked up. a lot.).

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

did see the Bowery show on the tour. for once, AC is not playing ahead of their records (in that they retire the songs after their proper release). BD was malevolent in their loudness. after seeing them twice with tripping visuals (Forcefield for one, Ken Jacobs for another), i really feel they lack without it now.
you should pick up "Wastered" though. nice stuff.

― BbetaA, Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

black dice would have been better with visuals last night. I did like them though. animal collective I did not (much); everything I did like about them I get out of listening to trout mask replica or something at home.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

"...almost entirely because they're so coherently-crafted..."

this is true (about most everything they've done) but what i'm beginning to realize is that not everyone can discern this. obv some effort is required i suppose, but some people are in the swing of looking for at least new-seeming twists in music, having unearthed a lot already, so it's not "effort" exactly. it's a seeking out of surprise on one hand, but also an ability to recognize when an actual surprise has reared up.
others who aren't so inclined generally just refute this whole premise outright, see it as off-putting pathology etc. but usually they have little else but cute scoffing exercises to run through and tend to like to leave it at that. gold-medal cutesy types you know them. i want to feel transported, not inducted into an unserious pavilion of snark, personally.

― duke abscond, Friday, 27 August 2004 00:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

b-b-b-but they don't jam!

Right, well, hence the "for people who hate Phish" qualifier. Their noodliness is of a more intellectual sort. They're conceptually noodly.

― spittle (spittle), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

See, I'm not sure how anyone could listen to e.g. "Leaf House" (which, as always, is the track I'm thinking of) and not hear it as pretty much as structurally coherent as the average pop song: its parts all lock together in a seriously "composed" way, and the way that they move from one to the other is probably even more deliberately crafted than the average chart track. Which is a feeling that, for me, seems to follow through most of that record, apart from a couple specific "mood" tracks that were likely more loosely constructed. I've actually spent time wondering how their writing process for this record might have worked -- the sound would seem to imply that it was sort of pieced up from nothing, with no particular outcome in mind, parts added where they fit and etc. -- but there's just too much stuff in there that belies that particular framework.

― nabisothingy, Friday, 27 August 2004 01:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

black dice would have been better with visuals last night.

you should think twice before you say something like this. last night's show had a mostly lit loft with a few colored lights and a chandelier above the bands. the fucking dumbshit dj thought he'd be cute (i think he actually thought he was doing a good job) by flicking the lights on and off. it wasn't ever even in rhythm or during exciting moments.

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

Some songs have "parts", others don't (or their parts are less obvious). "Leaf House" (and "Who Could Win A Rabbit") are "songs" in the only sense anyone really cares about: they have clear melodies, are structured in a logical way (w/A sections and B sections and so forth) and are sung. There is nothing "jam band" about them. Nor is there anything very "jam band" about, say, the last three songs on the record, because I don't consider meandering strumming with equally meandering vocals to be "jamming". I consider it meandering - and I hardly mean that in a negative sense. Jam bands stretch ideas out, use variations, come together to a climax. There seems to be much more sitting and staring during the looser moments of Sung Tongs; contemplating, worshipping, leaving out the direction that's always implied in a jam.

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Was anyone at either of the L.A. shows this weekend? I caught the Knitting Factory show, which was very nice. Black Dice could have played longer. They were all out of Wastered 12"s, sadly. I thought it was mildly underattended. Lots of people left after A.C. finished.

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

hi people, what is the name of the song with the lyric:

"self doubt, i'll doubt i'll find a swimming pool"... or something similar?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ben, I was at both shows. The Echo was packed. It seemed like there might've been more people there, than at the Knitting Factory, but it could've been the same amount just in two differently sized venues.

They had copies of Wastered at the Echo and then sold out. 50% of the audience left after AC played, at the Echo, as well.

Also, if you thought that the show was underattended, you should've been at the Acid Mothers Temple. There were at most 25 people there.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

I saw the Bowery show and I do think Animal Collective could appeal to people into the jam band scene. No, that doesn't mean I think they're a jam band, but there were certain qualities in the performance that jam fans would appreciate.

And why are people leaving before Black Dice play? I thought they were better than AC that night.

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 30 August 2004 15:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Well, at the Echo they had equipment troubles.

But even more than that, I don't feel like seeing them live adds anything to the music. You've got one guy looking nervous and afraid, another playing guitar but hidden by his effects case and a third guy sort of dancing in place and twiddling knobs. Basically, the only interaction is when Bjorn cocks his head to the side and mouths something to the other guys.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

Animal Collective definitely goes for - and achieves - more of a connection with the audience. They played a clear cut set, with nice regular guy banter in between songs (the singer kept seeming genuinely shocked by all the applause in between songs, saying "jeez, thanks - it's sweet to play here!"). Black Dice are more intense -- no breaks during the set, bursts of noise, no acknowledgement of the crowd. It's just a different thing altogether.
Did you get a Wastered 12", Dean? I am dying to hear that thing! Was Acid Mother's Temple at the Echo too?

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I picked up a couple up on Saturday. In fact, the merch guy seemingly gave me a bit of attitude when I asked to buy two copies.

AMT was at Spaceland one night and KF the next. The KF show was awesome because no one was there, but the a/c was out and it was HOT AS FUCK. They were selling $1 Rolling Rocks to make up for it.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

I do not go see Black Dice live in order to witness a performance or music theater. For me, I do not care if they acknowledge their audience and if I was living in '73 then I would not fault Tangerine Dream for not interacting with the crowd, too.

I go see BD because their music in the live setting is so much more visceral, huge and physical than when I play their records in my home. I find recorded-BD and live-BD as two related but vastly difference perspectives of the same band like two wildly different photographs of the same person.

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Good for you. But Pitchfork doesn't tell LA hipsters to expect that, so they don't stick around ;D

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Are you calling yourself an "L.A. hipster" because you were the one who I thought expressed dissappointment in BD's lack of interaction with the crowd? I'm confused...

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

No, I said that I don't feel like seeing them live adds anything to the music. I enjoyed it in spite of that. I'm also saying that the lack of audience participation is probably why so many people left. Also, the Echo show was delayed, so that may have had something to do with it as well.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

After seeing them 2x on this tour, I began to wonder just how much of Black Dice's set is canned?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Does "canned" mean pre-recorded or something like that?

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Gygax, you can't plan that kind of equipment failure.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

"canned" means bjorn loading in 3 minidiscs into his sampler/equipment about 5 minutes before "showtime".

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

It definitely seems that way, judging from the two nights that I saw them. It baffles me even more then that they'd cut Hisham and the drums out of the band completely when that brought some kinetic energy to their set. If they were going to focus on playing galleries and such, then I could see that decision being a lot easier, but you've got to figure that doing a tour sans drummer would be rough. I'm sure they did though and don't care.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 17:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

"I do not go see Black Dice live in order to witness a performance"
?!?!?! You just go for the $6 beers, and if they happen to decide to hold one on the night you bought a ticket for, it's a nice bonus?
I wasn't upset with Black Dice's lack of interaction; I was just noting it... I thought they were pretty fantastic. It was my first time seeing them post-drummer (and on the West Coast).

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

>I began to wonder just how much of Black Dice's set is canned?

I would personally say: a great deal.

― (Jon L), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

me too

I have Panda Bear's first album - Wifey thinks parts of it sound like Amnesiac-era Radiohead and, though I'd never have drawn that conclusion myself, that seems kinda accurate. It's not too good, in retrospect.

The song "Fire" from it is pretty decent.

it isn't slskable?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha, milton! i knew you'd know.

it would be great if there was more of an equipment failure in BD's sets and they'd have to revert back to SEMEN OF THE SUN.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

they should incorporate inevitable equip. failure into their show. make it like theatre. i could use sparks and pyro, also.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

They should become Fisherspooner is what I'm saying.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

They can aim higher than that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Like the Associates or something.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

I didn't notice any mistakes! :*

― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

do they still try to start fights and throw bottles?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog-

Why the sarcasm?
Why edit my quote to change its meaning?
Why jump on me when my point was in contrast to Dean?'s very valid take on BD live (which I am not saying is wrong in any way just diff. than mine.)

The full sentence that I originally wrote was
"I do not go see Black Dice live in order to witness a performance OR MUSIC THEATER."

Maybe I am not making my point. What I am saying is I do not experience Black Dive live like I would, say the Stooges or any other group that performs in the words purest sense like Frank Sinatra or Bowie or Liza or whomever. They move; they dance, they are personalities and their performances work as a form of theater, too. I would not expect this from BD. Half the time my eyes are closed and/or they are not in my field of vision. But, I love their sound via huge fucking PA's.

Does this make sense? Or, is my point still so totally foriegn that the only response possible is sarcasm? I hope not.

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

Anybody catch Ariel Pink's set at the Echo?

― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 20:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

No, Justin, you're right -- the sarcasm was uncalled for (and was more in response to the phrasing than the sentiment). And I wasn't being totally honest when I said I was simply "noting" that Black Dice don't offer up any interaction. I do find it to be a little too... expected maybe? Predictable? I mean, I find a lot of elements of the noise/avant scene to be so elitist and standoffish, and I felt like the Black Dice show was a bit of a bummer since it almost encouraged this sort of vibe. (again, whereas Animal Collective seemed genuinely appreciative and cool). Of course, this response to Black Dice is more of a kneejerk thing at this point -- I know the band's vibe and know what to expect, having seen them before at a couple different points in their existance -- and it's really even irrelevant, since I thoroughly enjoy their albums and the live show!
So, yeah, I was distilling your comment into a prejudiced caricature of a Black Dice fan -- so hardcore that he doesn't go to the show to see a performance -- he goes for the pure, uncut, cooler-than-thou VIBE! Which was unfair of me.

And just as a helpful tip to you: At this point in a thread, Jon Williams usually steps in here to say "Shut up, Ben, what do you know? You like Dave Matthews" and it gets me to shut up, since he's right.

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

That's cool. BTW- I am not very hip or cool. I simply morph into a total stoner whenever I go see Animal Collective and Black Dice. Sad but true. :)
^is this still an acceptable symbol to use in '04?

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

Anybody catch Ariel Pink's set at the Echo?

Yes ... unfortunately.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

And I say that mainly because I wanted to show up at 10:30, figuring that I would miss Ariel Pink, esp. since the venue listed AC as going on at 10:30. Still, Ariel Pink when on at around 10:35. I'm just thankful that I don't still fall for showing up at whatever time is listed on the ticket.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

Doesn't Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti have something out on Paw Tracks? What does it/he/they sound like?

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

His music sounded like something that I might enjoy very much on album but not live, at least, not at the Echo that night. It sounded like spooky pop? Like you were hearing these odd pop songs through an AM radio.

I was mostly bothered by him constantly shouting demands to the soundboard - turn off the delay, more vocals in the monitor, less delay, ok i want the delay back - and his seeming lack of interest in just performing. It wasn't like these were highly crafted songs, so they didn't seem to need all of the fuss that was being made over them.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

beyond description home recording one man band who balances do-anything pop genius with methamphetamine jumble. His pevious releases "House Arrest" and "Worn Copy" are instant classics. I always play these for late night hangers on and impress them without exception. I can't imagine how he would manage a live show, but maybe he can't(?)

― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

I got the impression that he hadn't performed a lot. His reaction to things seemed to indicate that.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

xpost
or maybe these people aren't to be listened to? eh, sexy?

― duke dance, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm still interested in hearing the album though, fwiw.

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

"pevious" should be "pervious"

― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

I mean, "totally fucking perverted."

― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

yr projectin' now

― duke overhead, Monday, 30 August 2004 21:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have to say, his website is completely genius (and also really sweet): http://www.arielpink.com/pages/1/index.htm

I am suddenly deeply curious to hear this. What about "The Doldrums," Sexy? That seems to be the easiest to find...

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 22:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

nope it ain't out yet. house arrest/lover boy on cdbaby.com?
we've got 'worn copy,' or also rhystop's site...

― duke pink, Monday, 30 August 2004 22:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://cdbaby.com/cd/arielpink

― duke here, Monday, 30 August 2004 22:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

and/or open this on a player, called "alisa"

http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/arielpink-09.m3u

― duke check, Monday, 30 August 2004 22:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

"Just how great is the new Animal Collective and Vashti Bunyan EP?! More on this later." - geeta

as I said over there: O.M.G.W.T.F? details!

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

MOST OVERRATED BAND IN NEW YORK

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

spirit they've vanished is good, ian. so is the campfire songs cd. here comes the indian is alright, good in places. sung tongs no thanks yeah yr right.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

The only one I really dig is Campfire Songs; I don't get what the big deal is re: the rest. Though I haven't heard the live LP.

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

Animal Collective + Vashti Bunyan details, please!

― Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

I thought you liked the Animal Collective Ian? Personally I hear knew things every time I hear Sung Tongs. They're like an acoustic Boards of Canada or a primate Beach Boys or something.
Not so keen on the early electronick-ish stuff though. I'm still wrapping my head round Campfire and ...Indian too.

― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't really hate Animal Collective, which it may seem like, but I don't think they deserve all the praise they're getting. Again, I quite like the Campfire Songs album. Sung Tongs is just Olivia Tremor Control redux, and the rest don't grab me as particularly interesting or innovative.

― Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

Okay, so you took acid and went camping. We get it already

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

"They're like an acoustic Boards of Canada or a primate Beach Boys or something" = you make them sound like the worst band ever, dl.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 March 2005 11:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

saying Sung Tongs is Olivia Tremor Control redux is extremely lazy...why? Because there are beach-boys harmonies? Because they experiment in the studio? Because they have a long droning song? For one thing, their exploration of acoustic layering and child-like mantras is worlds away from OTC's beatles obsession...they are concerned with the innocence and euphoria of youth, whereas OTC was exploring more free-thinking, acid-philosophy.. Ian says they're the most overrated band in Ny ?!?!...This is amazing to me, as I figured that they are the last band someone could say this about...They are definetely the type of band I can see keeping their integrity intact and constantly exploring new possibilities (each of their albums sounds completely different - sometimes like a completely different band)...MOST PROMISING BAND in NY is more like it!

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

they sound like the beatles.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

good live recording of the new material here:
http://www.justconcerts.com/concerts/concert.cfm?Act_Id=422&Concert_Id=353&Band_Id=14104&secondaryconcert=n&Concert_IsLive=True

― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

How can I save this realplayer stream onto my computer?

― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

Their new record will be their best.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

The new (full band) songs seem like a combination of what made Sung Tongs and HCTI great....the restless insanity of the latter and the pop sensibilities/tribal intensity of the former...though I did see them recently at the Bowery and felt that it was a little flat, the two NY shows that they played at the end of 2004 (with the same songs) were incredible

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Monday, 7 March 2005 19:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

gygax otm

details are they recorded three songs with vashti in england last spring I think. They were three songs they had left over from the sung tongs era. Fat Cat is releasing it as an ep in may or something. They should have them for sale on their april tour.

― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Any idea if the Vashti Bunyan EP is going to be a tour only thing, or widely available?

― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

it'll be out on fat cat in may

― naturemorte, Monday, 7 March 2005 22:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

animal collective feat. vashti bunyan
'prospect hummer' ep

1. it's you
2. prospect hummer
3. baleen sample
4. I remember learning how to drive

16th may, 2005

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

wow that sounds amazing

― owen reading, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 10:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

It is a great EP, short (15 minutes) and sweet, and her voice works v. well w/ what they're doing.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 11:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, for those who were looking for song ID's from that live set from may of last year (acoustic, mostly sung-tongs stuff)--at least two of the segments from that show, as much as i can gather, will be on the ep-- "it's you" ("it's still growing...") and the lovable jingle about that friendly brother, the cat, whose only friend is the food bowl. "i remember learning how to drive" i think is the last song they played at the other music instore half a year ago. i thought it was "i remember learning how to dive" when i heard it, a la "what about bob".

― naturemorte, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

AC&Vashti, DFA&Liquid Liquid, Jack White&Loretta Lynn.. what is it with bands nowadays working with musicians they wish they were?

Ok ok i know, Ramones & Spector. But still, sheesh. What's next the Flaming Lips and Syd Barrett?

― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Why is this a problem?

― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think this is the right idea.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think its an OK idea in this case, but sort of boring in general. it rubs me slightly wrong the same way all of these reunions have (except unrest! unrest is the best! except unrest! unrest is the best!). i dont know, obv this isnt a cash cow, per se, but these things just scream "one-off" and "interesting career asterisk". those things arent intrinsically bad, i guess. they make me feel weird, though.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

what's up with artists working with people they admire?! i don't get it!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

nothing wrong with it - guest appearances just seem gimmicky to me sometimes. actually, maybe thats a little rockist of me.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think they did it right in this case, though. Four little songs and the pairing makes sense.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

fair enough - i cant wait to hear it, regardless - just makes me really REALLY want a new proper LP. again, rockism rockism rockism.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

Don't worry they are recording the new lp even as we speak!!! uh, type.

― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

What's next the Flaming Lips and Syd Barrett?

let's hope so. their collab. with spongebob squarepants was garbage.

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't get it either, weirdoes.

what's up w.working w.artists who are artistically strapped?

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 10 March 2005 00:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

this ep's pretty good, though i like the instrumental "baleen sample" the most. not as good as sung tongs.

― eman (eman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

the new Ariel Pink is fucking dope

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love that cover of 'I just called to say I love you' they were doing live this past tour. They said they'll probably record it, as it's part of some longer original material they have. But yeah, as gygaz mentioned above and magic city seconded, their next record is bound to be amazing, judging from the recent live stuff.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

could somebody yousendit that animal collective live show for me? pretty please?

― Rizzx, Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

in SF/Oakland, they didn't really cover "i just called to say I love you", they just inserted the chorus once into one of their songs. It was all of about 30 seconds maybe.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

That's too bad- they really stretched it out when they played in Philly (right before Thanksgiving). Also, above, I meant 'gygax' not gygaz. finger-slip. I guess the new album will be out, what- late summer/early fall, maybe?

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

They are in the studio now so probably later this year. The "swimming pool" song will be on there if you remember that one.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

I do remember 'swimming pool'- that one's pretty great. I hope they do another live album too, at some point...

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

it's funny to hear vashti sing "i was hiiiiiiiii-IIIIIIIGH"

― amon (eman), Monday, 21 March 2005 00:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh shit. This Vashti collaboration is great.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

yes

― who's asking? (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

its true - i was skeptical, but its very very good, esp "i remember...".

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

it is really ravishing, a best-case scenario for those two forces combining and each being undiminished . . . . yummy

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

I really wish I hadn't paid attention to the lyrics of the title track, they're so fucking twee that I can't bear to listen again.

― amon (eman), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Should have paid more attention to this thread much earlier. 'Here Comes the Indian' is stunning, a revelation.

I didn't realise the Jane, responsible for the magnificent 'Bezerker', was a AC spin-off either.

― stevo (stevo), Thursday, 14 July 2005 09:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

that stevie wonder line won't be found on the new album, word up.

― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

Really? That's surprising. That little 'I just Called to say I love you' interpolation was one of the coolest and most surprising things about that song (Big Big Beat, don't know what the studio name is). So have you heard it then, the recorded version?

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

i'm not too surprised the "i just called to say i love you" bit isn't on the album; they'd probably have to credit stevie wonder for it (and lose some royalties in the process) or risk a lawsuit. (oh, i'm pretty sure "big big beat" is now called "the purple bottle" on the album because there's a line about a bottle if you listen to some of the live recordings out there.)

― spastic heritage, Sunday, 24 July 2005 09:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

so has this leaked yet?

― rizzx (rizzx), Sunday, 24 July 2005 09:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

But in the live recordings, the 'bottle' line is in the "I just called to say I love you" section, so if that's been removed, I don't see any real compelling reason that they would name the song 'the purple bottle'. They could have just as well named it 'Bees'. x-post

And no, I don't think it's leaked yet.

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Sunday, 24 July 2005 14:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

well, this is all guesswork here. we'll see what it sounds like when the album comes out or gets leaked (if you're impatient). personally, i'm going to wait until october for it to be released since i already know it will be excellent, based on the new material i've seen them play. that "swimming pool" song ("banshee beat" on the lp) is SO FUCKING GOOD.

― spastic heritage, Sunday, 24 July 2005 15:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

hi people, what is the name of the song with the lyric:
"self doubt, i'll doubt i'll find a swimming pool"... or something similar?

-- gygax! (gygax0...), August 30th, 2004 9:20 AM. (gygax!)

"banshee beat"!

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

and wow, it kicks asssssss

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

I liked Sung Tongs, but this new record is seriously just one big "WTF"

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

...?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, "wtf" in what way? i find it more straightforward than any of their previous records.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

it sounds very, very much like their recent live shows (past year or so) with a lot of that material being present on the record. much more spastic/electric than sung tongs. sort of 'same-y' at times.

― b'angelo, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

i find it more straightforward than any of their previous records.

Really? It sounds almost like a completely diferrent band to me, there's nothing as immediate as "Leaf House" or "Who Could Win a Rabbit" (though I did like "Grass" a bit, but even that was just a total headfuck), there's so much going on, the vocals sound really different... the production is odd.. it's a lot noiseier... it's just not what I expected, that's all.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

has it leaked then? what's the title?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Feels", promo's been out a month. Just got mine though :_(

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

xpost to Brainwasher

that's all true about the faster songs, which seem more like Animal Collective's take on rock - the slower songs are more Sung Tongs-ish. all of it is extremely enjoyable.

― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

brainwasher, have you heard here comes the indian? because feels is pretty much a nice mix of HCTI's sonix and Sung Tongs's songs.
also, i say them live a couple months ago, so i kind of knew what to expect.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

It seems kind of closed in to me, where Sung Tongs was bursting out. I wish this was a little "wilder".

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the production on this makes the songs a lot thicker it seems like- Scott Colbourne for Feels vs. Rusty Santos on Sung Tongs (and pretty much everything before, right?). But it does a good job of capturing the energy they had when they were playing these songs live on the last tour, and there are a lot of nice touches (the piano parts, for example).

― Kevin H (Kevin H), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Can anyone clue me in on how to check this out? Couldn't find it on slsk. Any chance someone coud YSI a track or two?

― Oklahomie, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

it's on slskkk!!
soemtime search works better if you go in a big rrom and do 'room search'

hint:

INDIE ROOM

― hais!, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

i wrote a little about it at my b-spot:
http://imbidimts.blogspot.com/2005/08/beta-feels-feels.html

― b8a, Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

so is ' i remember how to dive' supposed to have that clicking texture/noise through the whole track or do i have a faulty mp3?

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think it's supposed to be there

percussion

― lf, Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I own the CD, and yeah, it is there.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

ok though so thanks

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 15 December 2005 01:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

sounds like a click track to me.

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Thursday, 15 December 2005 01:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I was pretty unenthused about AC before this year, then they released "Feels" and it blows my mind. So of course I figured there was something about them I'd been missing all along and that things had finally clicked with me on "Feels" for whatever reason. I returned to "Sung Tongs" and "Campfire Songs" ... and they're exactly as I remember them. Worse, even. Now ------ we're --------------- strumming ------------- slowly, nowwe'restummingfast!!!!*!*&!&!*! ---------------------------------------------------- slow ------ again.

Did they smoke up with the devil before writing the songs on "Feels"?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 06:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

I was pretty unenthused about "Sung Tongs" until that one day when I was coming back from Amsterdam by bus, it was middle of the night and we wer cruising through somplace and this really cool get-to-sleep music comes on randomly on the ipod.

― Jibé (Jibé), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

I guess people don't have patience for the old stuff...to say it's just slow strumming is baffling to me, maybe you're hearing it with ears that are conditioned to simple pop...but I've listened to everything in their catalog extensively, and Feels really fails to reach the transcendent levels of Sung Tongs, Campfire Songs and HCTI..Feels is a concise view of their overall sound, but it loses a lot of the magic in the condensation process

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

and the fact that the singing went from angelic harmonies to Ween doesn't help

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

MindinRewind, EVERY song/album/artist/genre sounds like crap when you describe their music in a series of first person sentences from their perspective. I mean, here's every post-rock song ever.
Look at this we're playing real mellow and slow... now it's kind of loud... UH OH IT'S LOUD NOW!!!!! ------ Now it's quiet again... GETTING KIND OF LOUD... REAL LOUD!!!!! ---- lol now it's quiet.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeh - and what's with all that boomboomboom music? Rubbish! Hip hop? It's just people shouting. Metal's all RAARGH RAARGH RAARGH and it all sounds the same.

― Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

OK, you guys are right, I was being unfair there. But I'm surprised at myself that I don't have "patience for the old stuff", considering how much ambient, drone, Kranky, etc. I own. I probably overstated my case too -- I don't dislike the old stuff, but it doesn't capture me. I listened to "Campfire Songs" again last night and it was just ... pleasant.

"Feels" is a noisier record (in the shoegaze sense) than anything else I've heard from them, I know that has something to do with why I like it so much.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

I also have to note that my dumb little parody doesn't apply to "Feels" -- a few of the songs are anchored by charging, constant backbeats (rhythmic minimalism = another thing I'd expect myself to like).

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

mindinrewind, have you listened to spirit they're vanished, spirit they've gone, danse manatee or here comes the indian? if you only hear campfire songs and sung tongs, you're not really getting the whole picture.

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've heard "Here Comes the Indian", but not the others. Inasmuch as you can't really compare ten-minute noise crescendoes to off-kilter psych-pop, I think I like it better than "Sung Tongs". But like I said, I like noisy records, so some of their gentler acoustic songs tend to lose my interest.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

MindInRewind, it took me a long time to get into anything other than Sung Tongs, and even that took me a while to figure out. I'd say if anything, listen to "Two Corvettes" off of Campfire Songs and read along the lyrics - that's what did it for me. The carefree, summery, peaceful joy mashed up against the last section nearly brings me to tears. "Doggy" too, but less so.

For me Sung Tongs is my fave cos it's completely original and it sounds very organic and meticulously unprepared. Feels is fine, but veers very close to Flaming Lips territory at times. Sung Tongs just sounds like the Beach Boys playing messed up folk songs in the middle of the desert whilst peeling out on the strongest shrooms ever and I love it. One of the most important albums of this decade for me. But as I say, it took me a long time for it to click. Tracks like "Visiting Friends" can be pretty tedious and overlong, but I'd say something like "We Tigers" epitomises the tribal harmonic joy of that point in their career.

― Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

also, danse manatee and spirit they've gone are mediocre efforts at best. accomplishedly sophomoric but i wouldn't recommend them to people who are starting out. Never really "got" Here Comes The Indian either, although I can kinda see the appeal behind it. I think.

― Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

I always liked Sung Tongs, but it really clicked for me after I read Avey's description of it as a catalogue of comic book adventures around the city. I think the campfire/woods thing gets played up too much for it. But as little vignettes of crazy urban life, it makes so much sense and flows so well.

― helperbird, Friday, 16 December 2005 02:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think spirit... is far from mediocre -- it was the first thing i heard from them and it's probably still my favorite. i'm slightly befuddled by the "sung tongs is the best" crowd. (not that i don't love that album too...)

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Friday, 16 December 2005 03:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Any word on rhe new album for '07? A European Tour seems to be slowly building up.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 22:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

They recorded the new record in march in tuscon with scott colburn. they are now mixing it so i guess it will come out in the fall. on domino. spring tour of the south/midwest too

― mizzell, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 02:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

Does that mean that Person Pitch isn't being toured (also the Avey Tare backwards thing that seems pretty intriguing...) I have been listening to Hollingdagain. I know they are playing in Utrecht so I am considering blowing all the summer job money I make on going there. Also I have a friend from there, so that would be nice.

― I know, right?, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

ooh, Scott´s presence is a good sign. dude is a really, really good engineer.

― sleeve, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

i've really tried to like sung tongs. it's not working very well for me. i like it in "theory" but i never want to listen to it.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

Really, but it's so poppy! I get a bit like that about Manatee Danse more. It's a little off putting sometimes. I think there's something really addictive about Mouth Wooed Her especially. It's so much fun!

― I know, right?, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

I saw a.c. back in july and i'm still impressed. I think the newest material is a lot better than strawberry jam (which is still good). Right now I think this newest stuff is kinda the best dance music ever. specially 'material things' is wonderful techno-ish. Anyone seen them lately and feeling the same?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1HXQ1ybwBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iSG6U2YcQ0

― maarten, Friday, 24 August 2007 07:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

animal collective is my favorite band to see live. they are always so totally on fire that i feel like i am staring into my heart.

― elan, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

this new material is really cool i am glad

― elan, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

― Brigadier Pudding, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Saw them in Tripod last night. Fucking brilliant. No further discussion required.

― I know, right?, Monday, 5 November 2007 21:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes, when I saw them live in Berlin a few weeks ago they were astonishing. Total intergalactic balearic in parts, especially for their encore.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

saw them in paris two weeks ago. the best live show i've seen.

(and i found them awful twice before)

― poortheatre, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 17:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Wait, how did this not become its own joke thread? I want to see more genres described.

― Cunga, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Gauntlet Hair is a relatively unknown pair of dudes who are named Andy and Craig, from the small-ish (23,000 population) Colorado town of Lafayette. The pair garnered a fair amount of attention after being part of the Rhinoceropolis-curated block of Denver-based bands that played at the post-SXSW Mexican extravaganza MtyMx. The band’s track “I Was Thinking… ” is a pretty insatiable guitar stomp that throws some R&B and soul into the lo-fi revival pot, mixing heavily-reverbed guitars with a simple, but undeniably booty-shaking beat. Add in some Animal Collective-style vocal melodies and you’ve got something pretty fantastic.

Does anything quite make you want to not hear a band like "Add in some Animal Collective-style vocal melodies"?

― Cunga, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was this lose to wanting to hear the band but then they throw down that little detail at the last minute and I'm backing out and taking off the headphones

― Cunga, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fact that "post-anco" is a real thing and not just some ironic yuks on a message board blows my mind

― TeRRaFuGiA FLYinG CaR - ELeCTRiC DReaMs - PHiLiP OaKLeY / GiorGiO MoRoDeR (LOLK), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Moaning about Animal Collective's aesthetic and bands who may or may not have taken queues from it according to some wack journo

= dud.

― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 09:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Didn't want to derail the ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS thread by posting more AC lyrics after ilxor did, but man:

There’s no one, there’s no one, there's no one
No one
There’s no one, no one, there’s no one
No one,
(Kit, kit kit kit kit kit kit kit ................)
There’s no one, no one, there’s no one, no one,
(Kit, kit kit kit kit kit kit kit ................)
There’s no one, no one, there’s no one to say meow, kitties
Meow (kitties)
Meow (kitties)
Meow (kitties)
Meow

― ksh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone has ever claimed that their lyrics are any good

― WEB SHERIFF ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ (LOLK), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

kit kit kit kit kit kit kit

― ksh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone has ever claimed that their lyrics are any good

ILX wanked itself silly over My Girls' lyrics AIRC

― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Saturday, 3 July 2010 22:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

ILX wanked itself silly over My Girls' lyrics AIRC

Because they almost make sense for a change?

AC are definitely a "vocals as instrument" band for me - sometimes the words trigger direct associations that enhance the song ("I remember learning how to dive", "open up your throat"), sometimes they're awful (the Avey Tare "sexy" songs), usually they're just sounds with little more symbolism than the yelpy bits that punctuate them. I say this as a massive AC fan btw.

― seandalai, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

― ksh, Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

ya I am Animal Collective fan #1 but I think I'd be safe to give an Avey Tare poetry book a miss. I think there's some nice enough stuff on the past three albums (babies pooing aside), but prty sure that Leaf House isn't one they spent hours working through on the page before daring vocalise it.

― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 3 July 2010 23:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

All Tomorrow's Parties curated by Animal Collective
13th-15th May 2011 at Butlins Holiday Centre, Minehead
On Sale Friday 29th October from www.seetickets.com

We are very pleased to invite one of the most exciting indie success stories of the last decade to curate the only ATP festival weekend of May 2011. Animal Collective's last album Merriweather Post Pavilion was hailed with universal acclaim; 5 Stars from Uncut, 8/10 from NME and a 9.6 from Pitchfork, who also named it their album of the year and put it in their top 20 albums of the decade. ATP promoter Barry Hogan: "I always wondered what kind of mixtape Animal Collective would put together, so we are really stoked that they are climbing into the curating hot seat at Butlins next May where they will headline and curate the festival that includes the likes of Lee Scratch Perry and Gang Gang Dance from an already eclectic mix of 40+ acts."

The first announcements chosen by Animal Collective for the line-up are:

ANIMAL COLLECTIVE
GANG GANG DANCE
LEE SCRATCH PERRY
ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITI
BROADCAST
BLACK DICE
MEAT PUPPETS performing Up On The Sun
THE FROGS performing It's Only Right & Natural
IUD
OMAR-S
PRINCE RAMA
SPECTRUM
DENT MAY
GROUP DOUEH
THE BROTHERS UNCONNECTED
SUBLIME FREQUENCIES DJs + Films
DERADOORIAN
ZOMBY
VLADISLAV DELAY

with far more to be announced!

― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 10:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like a fair bunch of that, especially The Frogs and Omar-S

― I can't wait to get home and climb aboard... GROCERY GROIN (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i like a lot of that

― just sayin, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

was always expecting them as the inevitable curators and they are naturally doing an awesome job

― max readroom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

this does look amazing actually.

― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 11:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean whether you like AC or not, dudes have great taste

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

the return of dance music to atp!? O_O

― your mum, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can I afford to go to ATP and Primavera in the same month, is the question...

― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

vlad!!

― hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

animal collective awesome job, great taste

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

dire lineup except for meat puppets and group doueh

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

what no Shellac

― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

the other side of takeout is mildew on rice

― markers (crüt) (markers) (crüt) (markers) (crüt) (markers), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

lee perry will be performing his masterpiece "jamaican ET" in its entirety

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMAR-S performing Fabric 45

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

would see

BROADCAST
OMAR-S
ZOMBY
VLADISLAV DELAY

everything else is terrible

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

prolly not the thread to express that viewpoint

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITI
BROADCAST

would be cool to see. i kind of like animal collective, too (or, at least, i bet they'd put on an interesting show). i love lee perry, but in 2010? and prince rama are an intriguing act to me.

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

you are a total dipshit if you think group doueh is terrible

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

brothers unconnected certainly worth checking out too

― mizzell, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

all middle eastern music is horrible, atonal, buzzing noise

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

also

i find two of the three intriguing, the other not so much

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

girl on left looks pensive.

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

would have intrigue with all these white girls

no j/k they are sorta doggish

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

all middle eastern music is horrible, atonal, buzzing noise

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:50 PM

western sahara ≠ middle east

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

you laff, but last time anco uncovered some weirdo doofus all of indie rock sounded like him four years later so

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I could afford to go to this, would love to see:
ANIMAL COLLECTIVE
GANG GANG DANCE
ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITI
BROADCAST
BLACK DICE
MEAT PUPPETS
THE FROGS
PRINCE RAMA
DERADOORIAN
ZOMBY

Although I have to admit I haven't heard any of Deradoorian's solo stuff yet. Mad crush on her though. Someone point me to some Doueh to hear.

― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp thats indie rock's problem, not mine

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

you laff, but last time anco uncovered some weirdo doofus all of indie rock sounded like him four years later so

have no idea who yr referring to tbh

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

gucci mane?

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway this lineup looks great, Broadcast are teh best

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

meh. they couldn't book lil b (the based god)?

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know whether Doueh and the Bishops are doing other UK shows around this time? I would be surprised if not, but it'd be nice to know as I guess this will sell out pretty quick (they're only doing one ATP in May, right?).

― myopic_void, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean pretty phenomenal bill... but then again they could put motorhead and the ghost of joey ramone on this lineup and it's like i wouldn't want to spend more than 3 minutes with an audience of DIEHARD ANIMAL COLLECTIVE FANS in their stupid masks without wanting to blow my fucking brains out all over the fish n chips stand

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol their fans wear masks?

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lol Animal Collective fans wear masks?

― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Get yer eyes check bro, that is facepaint.

― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

headz ain't ready

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

those are TRIBAL MARKS or PAW PRINTS?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait whiney answer my question. or someone else answer it. I R perplexed

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

they go to clemson

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

crowd of people engage in idiotic behavior shockah

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

like this is why I never go to festivals in general, more than a couple hundred people in one place turns nauseating pretty quickly

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

all animal collective fans are enrolled at clemson university.

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxpost - ariel pink

― O Let's Group Doueh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah thx

I have never heard of or paid attention to ariel pink

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

well I've heard OF them (her? him?) but I've never listened to anything

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

just so tired of all these animal collectives

― am0n, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

what do they sound like? i think i want to hear these bands, like tonight!

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Should've been a stipulation that all acts have to have an animal somewhere in the name.

That aside, Deerhunter should really be on that ticket!

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

like this is why I never go to festivals in general, more than a couple hundred people in one place turns nauseating pretty quickly

lol u went to burning man

― fakey (buzza), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

which, btw, did not involve 10s of thousands of people when I was going

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

also a few thousand people spread across a desert is pretty different from thousands of people packed into a festival field, in the good ol' early days of Burning Man at no point would you ever be in a crowd of morons.

also you could still drive around, burn things, carry guns/explosives/fireworks, and there were no cops

oh how things have changed

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, being an upwardly-mobile urbanite US music fan must be the absolute worst. I feel so sorry for you people who are forced 24/7 to hang out with mask-wearing fans of an actually-not-as-ubiquitous-as-you-make-out noise-rock band that I may actually start an awareness charity.

Actually no, I think I'll spend my time enjoying music and looking forward to ATP instead, bungholes.

― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i still love this band btw

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't say I'm too mad for Dent May though. He's like a bad impression of Jonathan Richman playing a uke. Maybe he's more charming live though...?

― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

bd+ac are the best, would see

― plax (ico), Thursday, 28 October 2010 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

just so tired of all these animal collectives

― am0n, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 2:44 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

UCB ref???

― teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

;]

― am0n, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Maybe i put this somewhere else but my friend made this and I still think it's pretty funny. He was convinced 311 has a big influence on Animal Collective.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

― nostormo, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

so, new AC. the Panda track is better imo.
Tare repeat the same tricks he pulled in Feels etc...
the production sounds like old AC, which is great.

― nostormo, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

On first listen it's ok I guess. Doesn't feel like it has anything at all to do with 2012, which is not necessarily a bad thing but in the absence of new tricks I'd like some better tunes.

― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Monday, 7 May 2012 11:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Panda track is better imo.

Both songs sound like Avey Tare to me.

― spastic heritage, Monday, 7 May 2012 12:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah both are avey. don't get a feels vibe at all from these.

― mizzell, Monday, 7 May 2012 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really like the percussion. agree the tunes aren't great, but these were far from the best songs on the last tour.

― mizzell, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, seems ILM really has moved on from Animal Collective...not even a bit of abuse for old time's sake?

― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

ya these songs haven't struck me very much yet, which as a fanboy is pretty rare for new Animal Collective material. I think maybe I'm not especially digging the sonic palette they're using, it all sounds a bit murky and indistinct without having other qualities to make up for that. But then I've seen them doing their latest set of songs a couple of times and listened to them a couple more and I don't really remember these songs, so whatever I still anticipate the album. V uninternetty response I admit, it's time to proclaim a shark jump.

― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Doesn't feel like it has anything at all to do with 2012

Not sure what's '2012', but this comment sticks with me.

― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm holding out for the "Untitled" song that pitchfork filmed them performing at p4k fest last year

― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

centipede hz is their Load

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:42 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I just happened to throw on Feels this morning on my way to work. Still my favorite of album of theirs.

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Centipede HZ is their Exile on Main Street. It's its own world... the best thing they've done.

― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:28 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

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