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― Dadaismus, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
thanks for all your help.
― marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Dadaismus, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.eurock.com/features/florian.aspx
My favorites (of the ones I've heard so far) are Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte and Einsjager und Siebenjager
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.ultimathulerecords.com/
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
Popol Vuh (1972)Quiche Maja (1973)Stolen From Time (1975, credited to Popol Ace)
Destroy:
Anything by those German guys.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Dadaismus, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
The debut 'Affenstunde' is the one predominantly electronic one. The second one, 'In Den Garten Pharoahs', keeps it going but side two is improvised solo organ. All the Hertzog soundtracks are keepers, 'Aguirre', 'Heart of Glass', 'Nosferatu' (the soundtracks are compilations from their studio records, but they're the ones I throw in the player more often)
Avoid 'City Raga', their techno remix experiment. Also I'd say stick to the seventies before venturing into the eighties.
― jl, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
A UNREASONABLY SUBJECTIVE GUIDE TO POPOL VUH (Part One)
Affenstunde (1970)I'll be honest with you, I'm not especially interested in Florian Fricke as an electronic musician. This album is one to admire rather than play too often. Allegedly one of the first "rock" albums to be made entirely (almost) with the Moog of Dr. Robert's invention. Admirably, Fricke’s approach to the Moog seems to be that (like Sun Ra) he doesn't bother trying to get a tune out of it but concentrates instead on producing weird noises. However (like Sun Ra again), you wonder whether this is deliberate or because he CAN'T get a tune out of the damn thing! All in all, this album is quite different from other German "electronic" albums of the period in that genuinely IS electronic (for the most part) and, unlike Tangerine Dream and the "Berlin School", it doesn't just sound like the weird bits on a Pink Floyd record stuck together. 6/10
In den Gärten des Pharaos (1971)Better than "Affenstunde". The title track has more of Fricke's wayward Moog noodling (Moogling anyone?) but with more (ahem) musical elements added. Finishes with a long section played on a Fender Rhodes that is actually quite jazzy (in an ECM sorta way). The other track, "Vuh", is the first evidence to date of Popol Vuh as THE ultimate Goth band - a looooooooooong drone piece on a mighty swelling church organ overlaid with cacophonous percussion and mewling moogs. Good stuff! 7/10
Hosianna Mantra (1972)Woah, talk about a volte face! The Moog is consigned to a (very roomy) closet, rarely to appear on a Vuh record again and in its place we have Piano, Cembalo, Oboe, Electric Guitar. Very classically influenced and entirely devotional, Fricke's wonderful piano playing is well to the fore, unfortunately so is Conny Veit's echoplexed "early 70's" guitar, which over-eggs the pudding in places. Djong Yun adds vocals so wispy they barely exist. Somewhat meandering but I dare anyone to take actual OFFENCE at so diaphonous a creation! 7/10
Seligpreisung (1973)An odd album in the oeuvre. This is like a more muscular version of "Hosianna" with similar "songs" which are (with the exception of the instrumental, "Tanz der Chassidim") made up of successive themes rather than having any kind of verse-chorus-middle eight structure (in fact this album probably has more different tunes than the entirety of all the albums that follow it!). The presence of Amon Düül II's erstwhile drummer Daniel Fichelscher edges some of the songs towards prog rock or even (heaven forfend!) jazz rock. Fricke handles the vocals himself in an unlovely but sincere voice which adds to the album’s singularity. 7/10
Einsjäger und Siebenjäger (1974)The album that cements the partnership between the two core musicians of Popol Vuh - Florian Fricke and Daniel Fichelscher. Fichelscher's pounding, cymbal-heavy drums are all over this album but who would have thought a humble drummer (sorry any drummers out there!) would turn out to be such an astonishing guitarist? His acoustic playing (on his own "Morgengrüss") is beautiful enough but with his electric playing Fricke found the perfect vehicle for his compositions. Fichelscher's playing is not unlike Conny Veit but he has a warmer tone, a stronger melodic imagination and he's more of a virtuoso (the last the least important of the three). The title track is an amazing 19½ minute magnum opus which could conceivably pass for prog rock were it not so heartfelt and unpretentious, Djong Yun shows up to coo sweet somethings every so often. 8/10
― Dadaismus, Thursday, 20 March 2003 13:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Klaus Schultze's "Big Moog" is in fact this instrument, or part of it is, I think parts of it were stolen back in thee 1980's. Fricke siad that he got this female voice sound that he liked out of it, but didn'e care for it otherwise. IIRC he avoided electronic instrumentation thereafter 'till he got a Synclavier for "Cobra Verde"
Danny Fichelscher is an astonishing guitarist, it's true. At times I think there has never been anyone better, actually. I am amazed that he isn't better known.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'd forgotten about 'Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte'
― jl, Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
A UNREASONABLY SUBJECTIVE GUIDE TO POPOL VUH (Part Two)
Aguirre (1975)The first of Fricke’s confusing soundtrack albums from the films of Werner Herzog. I say confusing because the albums often bear little resemblance to what you hear in the film. The opening scenes of the film feature the once-heard-never-forgotten “Lacrimae di Rei”, which utilises the “choir organ”, a mellotron-like instrument also used to good effect by Amon Düül II. The only the other music which actually appears in the film is a brief field-recording of pan pipes. "Morgengrüss II" and “Agnus Dei” are both re-workings of tracks on “Einsjäger und Siebenjäger” and “Aguirre II” consists of the first part of “Lacrimae di Rei” (or “Aguirre I”) and a lush guitar piece from Daniel Fichelscher. Which leaves “Vergegenwaertigung” (snappy title huh?), a proto-ambient moog piece consisting of sundry whooshes and rumbles which appears to date from the early 70s. 7/10
Das Hohelied Salomos (1975)Having made the useful discovery that Fichelscher could play the guitar a bit, it sounds on this album as if Fricke got a bit carried away and allowed Fichelscher to solo over every nook and cranny on every track - if you are not a fan of guitar solos, this is not the album for you! For the first time, Fricke is cutting songs down to their essentials, instead of using successive themes here he concentrates on one repeated theme or one piano sequence and builds pieces this way. Here, he also begins re-visiting and re-configuring themes from other albums ("Hosianna Mantra" in particular). All in all, this is a very "rock" album. 6/10
Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte (1976)Even rockier than "Salomos" and considerably heavier. Wall-to-wall Fichelscher on this album with heavy drums and waves of guitar - some people have called this the beginning of Vuh's "raga rock" period but it’s really more rock than raga. Renate Knaup jumps ship from the fast-sinking Amon Düül II and sings “Dort ist Der Weg” and the title track, which are surprisingly straight folk-rock songs which even have English lyrics! Happily, it must be admitted that it still doesn’t really sound like anyone else. The highlight is probably the instrumental, “Oh wie nah ist der Weg hinab” which is used to memorable effect in the opening sequences of Werner Herzog’s “Heart of Glass”. 8/10
Herz aus Glas (1977)Throughout this period in Popol Vuh's evolution, Florian Fricke's piano playing recedes further and further into the mix until, with this album, it disappears altogether! Although he's credited as playing piano on this album, I cannot make out a single note of piano - and as the album is all-instrumental this effectively makes this a Daniel Fichelscher solo album. The compositions are still recognisably Fricke's though (one Fichelscher piece aside), the soloing guitars of the last few albums are placed further back WITHIN each track, which makes this album considerable less easy to date precisely. Also worth noting that hardly any of the music on this album actually appears in the Herzog film it’s nominally the soundtrack to – in fact, most of the music on the film is from “Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte”. 9/10
Nosferatu (1978)Another muddled soundtrack album from Herzog’s slightly redundant version of the F.W. Murnau’s silent classic. Once again, not all that much which is on this album is actually in the film and much of the music is from previous albums. A case in the point is 12 minutes or so of creepy electronic music included here, which, unless my ears very much deceive me and I don’t think they do, is merely the moog parts from “In den Gärten Pharaos”. Mind you, at least that music actually IS in the film (where it works very effectively), a lot here isn’t. 6/10
Bruder des Schattens, Söhne des Lichts (1978)Having taken the guitar-army raga rock approach as far as he could, Fricke moved back towards more placid waters on this album: longer and more hypnotic songs with largely acoustic instrumentation and a more overt "Eastern" influence. The title track is the best of Popol Vuh’s long tracks – moving through a Gregorian chant like opening; a classically influenced section with glacially beautiful woodwind before the main body of the piece: a long long, hypnotic folk-influenced mantra. All in all, absolutely stunning. “Höre, der du Wagst” and “Das Schloss des Irrtums” if anything are even more repetitive and trance-like – a bit too much for some tastes I would expect. The closing, “Die Umkehr”, is a slightly doomy and foreboding folk-rocker which lies somewhere between early Steeleye Span and Eastern European folk music. 9/10
― Dadasimus, Friday, 21 March 2003 11:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Der Nacht der Seele (1979)Very similar in mood and sound to "Brüder" but with shorter, more concentrated tracks and more use of vocals. Some pieces, such as “Mit Händen, mit Füssen”, are as beautiful as anything in the Popol Vuh catalogue, others are more Gothic. Some quite odd percussion pieces too. Another good album and another short one too! 8/10
Sei still wisse ICH BIN (1981)Probably the most idiosyncratic Popol Vuh album of them all and one of the best. Soundtrack to Fricke’s extremely odd “film” of the same name (sometimes also called “Sinai Desert”) The mantra-like chanting and extreme repetition that Fricke had been exploring in more and more detail finds its ultimate expression on this truly unique album. Using the choir of the Bavarian State Opera, Fricke builds dense and rather unsettling walls of vocals over thundering, thumping percussion and Fichelscher’s pleasingly primitive guitar or else strips the music right down to simple modal melodies. Pretty special. 9/10
Fitzcarraldo (1982)Not an album I actually own, but given that all of the Popol Vuh music on it (there’s also some opera on here) is from previous albums, owning it would be somewhat redundant. One thing to note is that, once again, some of the music heard in the film isn’t on the soundtrack, specifically: a sequence which uses, “Singet, denn der Gesang vertreibt die Wölfe”, which is actually from “Herz aus Glas” (though not actually in the “Heart of Glass” film – told you it was confusing!)
Agape-Agape (1983)OK, eclectic sort of album, which picks up on various threads from the previous four or five albums. Unfortunately, the re-recording of old pieces starts in earnest on this album and you wonder why they bothered following this course. The other problem I find with this album is simply that it isn’t as well produced as previous albums. But this has good things on it – the title track for instance while “Why Do I Still Sleep” is hypnotic to the max. Nice to see Conny Veit back after an absence of ten years! 7/10
Spirit of Peace (1985)Just four tracks on this. The opening chant, “We Know About the Need” can be heard in a Werner Herzog documentary about Reinhold Messner. The title track is part two of a three part piano suite which is worth hearing in its entirety, if you can track it down – shows the hitherto unsuspected influence of Keith Jarrett IMO. “Song of Earth” is the old “Agnus Dei” tune (used previously in various PV albums) rearranged for choir and acoustic guitar – 8 whole minutes which is either extremely boring or extremely hypnotic or (more likely) somewhere between the two. The 17½ minute “Take the Tention High” (sic) seems to be striving for a similar feel to “Brüder des Schattens” but lacks dynamics and is simply TOO repetitive. 6/10
Cobra Verde (1987)Extremely obscure but surprisingly good soundtrack (probably better than Herzog’s self-parodic film deserved) – the last good Popol Vuh album in fact. For the first time in fifteen years, Fricke makes extended use of electronics, namely the synclavier keyboard. This is used to create a series of ominous drone pieces and to provide a subtle orchestral-like backing to the utterly beautiful “Ha’mut, bis dass die Nacht mit Ruh’ und Stille kommt”. The title track is a reworking of “Mit Händen, mit Füssen” done in full Gregorian chant mode. Worth picking up if you can find it – though that is extremely unlikely! 7/10
For Me and You (1991)This is the later Guido Hieronymous-guided Popol Vuh which means: some music which has nothing to do with Popol Vuh as we know and love them; some pointless re-workings of old material; some good stuff where Fricke and Fichelscher seem more involved. The stand out here is the four-part “Om Mani Padme Hum” which is built around Fricke’s piano and Renate Knaup’s voice, which can only be a good thing. Part 4 is especially exquisite. 5/10
City Raga (who cares?)Played this once I think – didn’t hear enough of Popol Vuh on this to play it again. No rating therefore.
― Dadaismus, Saturday, 22 March 2003 13:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
Definitely the title track is the standout on this one, for me--has a Native American feel. I am still trying to figure out if they are chanting the poem on the back of the CD, with the "gully gully ram sam" or whatever.
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jl, Sunday, 23 March 2003 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
BTW if anybody reading this owns Crispy Ambulance's Plateau Phase and the Nosferatu soundtrack, can you confirm that the CA track "Simon's Ghost" is a direct ripoff of the opening theme from Nosferatu? I don't have the soundtrack (and in fact don't know if this theme made it to the soundtrack as per Dadaismus' caveats) but saw the movie again recently, then shortly after that listened to the CA disc and noted the extreme similarity. on Plateau Phase the piece is credited to the group.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 23 March 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm not finished yet!
Last part…
ALSO OF NOTEGila – Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee (1973)Gila was Conny Veit’s band before joining Popol Vuh, their first album (with a different line-up) is apparently quite psychedelic and spacey but this particular album is of special note because it’s basically Popol Vuh: but playing Conny Veit's songs as opposed to Florian Fricke's. Not surprisingly this sounds a bit like the Popol Vuh of this period (1973-75): melodic rock with folk and classical elements and with not enough progginess to render it unpalatable to the discerning listener - but not as GOOD as Popol Vuh of course! One of the problems is that it's some kind of concept album about the plight of the Native American - cue po-faced and awkward lyrics and vocals delivered with a Teutonic over-earnestness which spills over into (unintentional) comedy at times. Nice lush piano throughout from the late great Florian, Danny Fichelscher drums as athletically as ever, Conny plays nice guitar.
ADDITIONAL FILM WORKAs you may have noticed Florian Fricke’s music is often used in the films of Werner Herzog and it’s hard to imagine one without the other (just how many faux-naif mystics are there in Bavaria exactly?) As I confessed at the beginning of this marathon, I don’t have all Popol Vuh’s albums and I certainly haven’t seen all of Werner Herzog’s films so there may be some films which use Popol Vuh’s music which I’m unaware of.
Lebenszeichen (Signs of Life) (director: Werner Herzog, 1968)I confess I haven’t seen this, Werner Herzog’s first feature film. I do know however that Florian Fricke appears in it as “a pianist”, some years before Popol Vuh too!
Auch Zwerge haben klein angefangen (Even Dwarfs Started Small) (director: Werner Herzog, 1970) Truly one of the strangest films you’ll ever see. This is supposed to have some Florian Fricke music on the soundtrack, but I must admit not to noticing it.
Die Grosse Ekstase die Bildschnitzers Steiner (The Great Ecstasy of the Woodcarver Steiner) (director: Werner Herzog, 1973)This is a typically idiosyncratic Herzog documentary on the Swiss show jumper, Walter Steiner. Features some lovely Popol Vuh music, music which I’ve yet to hear on any album – damn it!
Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) (director: Werner Herzog, 1974)Florian Fricke has a brief but striking role in this wonderful Herzog film. He plays a blind pianist called Florian (what else!), who is first seen playing (and singing – sort of!) a version of “Agnus Dei” (see numerous Popol Vuh albums) for the foundling Kaspar Hauser and his guardian (and looking very Beethoven-like in the process). He pops up again at the end of the film, in Kaspar’s deathbed scene, where he stares rather disconcertingly into space while humming “Agnus Dei”!
Sei still wisse ICH BIN (director: Florian Fricke, 1981)Not really a film (though shot on film) and not really a video (though resembling one in form). This is the visual accompaniment to the album of the same name (and vice versa). Shot entirely in the Sinai Desert, this largely consists of Herzog-like poetic landscapes, sometimes empty and sometimes peopled by mysterious figures in white robes: walking, standing on mountainsides or in large circles. The figures are following “The Prophet”, a Jesus-like figure who, bizarrely, is played by a woman with a false beard (60’s fashion model, Veruschka)! (Actually, now I come to think of it, it would have been even more bizarre if it had been a woman with a REAL beard). If you think Herzog’s films are slow and uneventful wait till you see THIS!
― Dadaismus, Monday, 24 March 2003 14:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
Thanks for the link to the Florian Fricke interview. I admit that Guido Hieronymous doesn’t appear to be Florian’s son – I’d always assumed that he’d allowed Mr. Hieronymous the latitude to ruin latter day Popol Vuh out of some kind of fatherly indulgence. Also fascinated to discover that Esther Ofarim was almost the vocalist on “Hosianna Mantra”, at about the same time that her husband was (mis)managing Can! It is stated that this is the first known interview in English with Florian Fricke – this isn’t true, I came across an interview with FF in a old copy of Sounds (UK music weekly – now defunct) which dated from 1978-79, the interview was with Sandy Robertson.
I would also recommend seeking out “Herzog on Herzog” (edited by Paul Cronin, published by Faber), a series of interviews with Werner Herzog which contains interesting info on Florian Fricke – including a practical joke played by him on the apparently notoriously gullible Herzog. Actually, I would recommend it in any case as an insight into Herzog who is a truly amazing man, even if he hasn’t made a decent feature film in years. Delighted to discover that Herzog, in the grand tradition of German intellectuals and film auteurs (see Fassbinder), was a more than useful footballer (that’s proper football not the musclebound rubbish which goes under that name in the USA).
― Dadaismus, Monday, 24 March 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
A friend who I haven't seen in years had this brit electronic 'zine from the early eighties, which contained a FF interview. t was wierd, in that the interviewer had obtained FF's phone no. from somewhere, & called him up on spec. Fricke's response was, like, I don't do interviews, and where did you get my number from anyway!!?? But, seeing as I'm here, i'll answer a couple of questions. I can't remember much except for the bit about him selling the big Moog to Klaus S, and FF being slightly disparaging abt KS' musick "nice music for supermarkets" is how I remember he put it. Great stuff Dadaismus, anyway.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
Don't hear much difference in sound if they were remastered (doubt it), but the packaging at least is way superior to Spalax (plus, it's nice to have Digipaks rather than standard jewel case).Can't wait for them to do Letzte Tage - Letzte Naechte and the others...
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, listening to the title crack of Aguirre right now, and I can hear the vinyl clicks. Jees, and they licensed this from Fricke's family, too! Guess the original tapes are long gone...
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 19 June 2004 05:56 (nineteen years ago) link
I believe they are. Bounus tracks?!??!?
― Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 19 June 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Disappointing if that is true, especially since as it is their albums are already pretty notorious for shuffling around (or re-recording) the same music on different albums.
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
i've seen just about all of herzog's films at least once. 'signs of life' is really pretty good. i had no idea that florian was in 'kaspar hauser', and that he's in some of my favorite scenes in that film. the guy who plays kaspar hauser, bruno s., is also in another of herzog's called 'stroszek' which is pretty good too.
― urker, Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
In Kaspar, Fricke looks uncannily Beethoven-like, as if he had stepped right out of the Romantic era...
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― John 2, Saturday, 17 July 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
AffenstundeAgape/AgapeEinsjäger und SiebenjägerHosianna MantraAguirre
They are very good, and I A/B-ed them with my Spalax issues, and the new ones sound a bit (though noticeably) better - more "open" sounding, perhaps. some of them are vinyl transfers by the sound of it. Pretty well done, though not as good as the transfer on High Tide's "Sea Shanties, for example. They all come in little gatefold cardboard sleeves w/a little booklet. It appears that there are only 2 booklets, going on the ones I have - one for the regular albums, one for the soundtracks. Some of the blurb in the booklets is OK, but it's a little unsatisfying in some way. There are some good pictures, including a few I hadn't seen before. the bonus tracks are generally good, though the one on "agiurre" sounds suspiciously like one of the regular album tracks with a sampled ethnicky percussion loop overlayed, which sucks. The extras on "Einsjaeger..." are the best, 2 little pieces in the Hoheleid Salomos/Letze Tage..." style, IE more of the same, but bore of this same = more of what I want. I am REALLY looking forward to picking up "Das Hoheleid Salomos", "Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht" and "Der Nacht der Seele", because they are my favourites. I'm also interested to hear what's on "Cobra Verde" because I remember there being tow different versions of this when it came out.
I found myself getting faintly annoyed at how little Danny Fischelsher got mentioned in the blurb. That seems unfair somehow.
It would be good if they also issued "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee"
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I should also point out that all the reissues I bought have the proper dynamics, IE they haven't been loudness-maximised. Honestly, I was so relieved about this that I had a lump in my throat! (true!)
A little while ago, I also picked up the reissue of "shepherd's Symphony" (or whatever it's called) from the same series. It's really bad.
Also Also Also!!! ! I tried to play my CD of "For You and Me" the other night, and it had self-destructed!! All the metal foil had come away from the plastic disc!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 7 February 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
been listening to Nosferatu a lot recently. I would rate that one much higher than dadaismus does, but I rate the spare minimal electronics much higher, and think they balance out the other lovely band parts... actually I'd even say it's a good place to start for the atmospheric side of the band. With Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte being a good place to start for the transcendental heavy rock side.
― (Jon L), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Friday, 8 April 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link
seriously, dadaismus' pocket reviews up there are gold, though Nosferatu & Aguirre are two of my absolute favorites precisely because they mix the electronic & rock sides of the band so well, some people don't like the minimal moog solos
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
i haven't heard that much of their stuff, tho.
― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 21 July 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
and I'd like to second Florian's appearance in Kaspar Hauser. Heartbreaking. Kaspar listens to Florian play the piano, never having experienced art and music and it's power before, and says something along the lines of "why does my heart feel so heavy?"
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 July 2005 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
so i'm listening to the first in the list, aguirre, on headphones and... WTF THERE ARE LOUD VINYL POPS ALL OVER THIS BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't even want to listen to the others now. all i can think about is the money i shelled out for SHITTY VINYL TO CD TRANSFERS.
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm really amazed at how good these albums are. and i've only got about half of them. apparently when you line all the cds up the spines will form an image which i believe is the same one of fricke on the back cover. the repetitive booklets seem kind of lazy but whatever.
anyone notice how Black Dice sound like "Affenstunde"?
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
the music for both films is credited to Fricke. and it's easily possible to imagine this piece made by Popol Vuh, although it doesn't sound quite like anything else I've heard by them. could it be the piece is by someone else? (if so, ideas please?!) however, similar chords seem to sound in some more Vuh-like music that appears later in Steiner - so maybe it's just an intro to a longer piece.
due to the number of comments all around (check internet) about unreleased Herzog Popol Vuh, I'm guessing the same piece struck a chord with others...
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
1. "Selig sind, die da hungern Selig sind, die da dürsten nach GerechtigkeitJa, sie sollen satt werden." 5:59
2. "Tanz der Chassidim" 3:12
3. "Selig sind, die da hier weinenJa, sie sollen später lachen." 5:07 4. "Selig sind, die da willig arm sindJa, ihrer ist das Himmelreich." 3:10
5. "Selig sind, die da Leid tragenJa, sie sollen getröstet werden." 3:39
6. "Selig sind die SanfmütigenJa, sie werden einst die Erde erben." 2:30
7. "Selig sind, die da reinen Herzens sindJa, sie sollen Gott schauen." 2:33
8. "Ja, sie sollen Gottes Kinder heissenAgnus dei, Agnus dei." 2:39
― o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
"YOGA is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy."
Florian Fricke, interview on Eurock.com
― o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pangolino 2, Monday, 17 April 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― nervous.gif (eman), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Saturday, 10 June 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Il mio nome e' Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 June 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 June 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
listened to some of cobra verde last night, half of it sounds like a gas album without the buried house thump, fucking awesome.
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link
that 'Train Through Time' track on the Affenstunde reissue I like better than the album!
the Aguirre bonus track is basically the title theme one more time with one extra overdub, probably not worth buying the album again if you've already got it, but I don't mind hearing it three times a sitting
very curious about that 70's Progressives compilation, someone figure out what that is and post back.
I still don't have all the 70's albums, I'm kind of spacing out the purchases at this point, savoring each new one. I just finally bought Hosianna Mantra, zero gravity
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link
1. Wanderer Am Himmel 8:18 (?)2. They Danced, They Laughed, As Of Old 4:50 (Agape-Agape)3. Eastern Sunrise 4:12 (?)4. Am Tor 3:47 (?)5. Love-Love 5:24 (Agape-Agape)6. Der Große Krieger 3:10 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)7. Wo Bist Du? 5:40 (Der Nacht der Seele)8. Dort Ist Der Weg 4:29 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)9. In Deine Hände 3:01 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)10. Calling You 4:42 (?)11. Oh Wie Nah Ist Der Weg Hinab 4:36 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
the 4 tracks i couldn't place only had a reference to what looks like another comp. called "florian fricke"http://www.progarchives.com//Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6250
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― One Man's Mede Is Another Man's Persian (Dada), Friday, 8 September 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.enricobassi.it/playsmozartfrontpic.JPG
... which I haven't heard, but I think I can imagine what it sounds like, and which I used to see a lot in one record shop in Glasgow and almost bought until I realised I was a fan not a fool
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Sing, For Song Drives Away The WolvesShepherd's SymphonyFor Me And YouCity Raga
I see them around cheap-ish, but life's too short to be a completist if they really are that bad.
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link
However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― TS: Mick Ralphs v. Ariel Bender (Dada), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing is awesome and inspirational. Remember when ILM was informative ?
― Geordie Racer, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link
messa di orfeo is actually pretty good
― am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Still not heard it. It's Florian tho and not Guido Hieronymous clogging everything up and ruining it?
― Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
right
Messa di Orfeo (Spalax, 1998) documents a 1998 multimedia installation by Fricke (keyboards), Fiedler (video), Guillermina De Germano (vocals) and Maya Rose (vocals)
― am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
This reminds me that I gotta get Cobra Verde OST this month when my eMusic creds refresh.
The big question about Fichelscher is where the hell is he? What does he do with his hands instead of doing that Kleiner Krieger thang?
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link
hey the search engine's finding this thread again, it was lost for a while. I was trying to wake it up to say how good Messa di Orfeo is.
the first time the recitational comes on, I thought 'ok I could listen to that woman's voice forever', and was happyy when it turns out they were thinking exactly the same thing. and the return to electronics really works -- the sampled crickets & insect harmonics are great. finally found a copy of the CD this weekend and the booklet's filled with color photos of the recording sessions & installation, including De Germano at the mic and a picture of the huge chorus.
also been listening to Hosianna Mantra a _lot_ these last few months. you really have to be in a wispy mood I guess but sometimes I think this one's my favorite
― Milton Parker, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
lately i've been listening to: -bruder des schattens-sohne des lichts -Letzte Tage, Letzte Nächte -Herz aus Glas
that mid seventies stuff reallllly does it for me.
― ian, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
remembered to check for pv on emusic, got four albs, and the first three tracks of hosianna mantra have been blowing my mind all day
― 69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
i guess i gotta listen to that one again. My copy has a bit of surface noise and it always agitates me. Does emusic have Bruder des Schattens? That's my fave, probably.
― ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah it does - i ran out of DL's though before i could get it
― 69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
emusic has k-vuh.
Even Cobra Verde.
It's all in the recent remaster versions, which are not always superior to previous editions, but mostly fine.
― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Hosianna Mantra is probably my favorite, though it doesn't really compare to any of the others (not rock, not electronic, less clay binding it to the ground)
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
i need an LP copy of the aguirre soundtrack, if anyone has one to spare. even a crappy bootleg! ("need")
― ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Classic ILM thread!
― Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Finally got to hear this. It's nice, not an out-and-out classic, but very worthwhile and good that the last thing Florian recorded (or the last that was released) was something of a return to his roots: experimental, electronic and, unlike most latter day Popol Vuh, not a misguided (or misGuidoed) attempt to be down with the kidz. A live recording I believe.
Also heard "Yoga", which is also a nice album but really has nothing much to do with Popol Vuh. Apparently it was recorded by Florian Fricke, and he may have played harmonium on it, but it was released without his permission.
Next stop is to finally get to hear "Die Erde und ich sind eins", an album of vocal chants, which was a private release, credited solely to Florian Fricke.
― Tom D., Thursday, 6 March 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON-CogKcfk
=)
― am0n, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q19C220Vvo
― am0n, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks!
― ian, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link
kyrie is definitely top 5 vuh jams
― 69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link
we jammed that one at your place after the FMU fair!
, ian
If ever a band warranted a box set, it's this one
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link
ahh, man, i'm floatin in the pharao's garten.
― LOUT of ICHOR (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 October 2008 08:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i got a copy of aguirre sdtrk a few weeks ago.lovin it.
the really do need a box set.
― ian, Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
goddamn, i don't think there's ever been a band where i've said to myself more often "ah, this is the last one i need!" and been wrong every time. i mean, i THINK i've got everything, then i notice how many soundtracks they did. and "yoga." and that guido hieronymous shit, though i doubt i need those.
― open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
also, some of the recurring themes on "coeur de verre" remind me of "hiroshima" by flower travellin' band.
― open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link
What albums that on? "Hiroshima", I mean.
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2008 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
"made in japan"
― open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link
guido heironymous albs are pretty bad....
Yeah, there's a number of the piano/drums/guitar albums that are basically the same kind of stuff, probably somehat repetitive if you don't dig PV*, but I find that I can never have too much of it, somehow.
(*If you actively dislike Popol Vuh, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything. etc etc)
― Pashmina, Friday, 14 November 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably said something similar upthread, but Daniel Fichelscher has got to be THE underrated "sleeper" guitarist's guitarist, how he isn't better-known is a mystery to me. I've never read an article about him in a guitar magazine once.
― Pashmina, Friday, 14 November 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
― craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
"wo bist du?" (einsjager bonus track) sounds a LOT like six organs of admittance. (this is a fantastic thread, by the way)
― kamerad, Sunday, 15 February 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
hosianna mantra really did it for me at 4am when i was drunkenly trying to settle in for bed. i dozed off and when i woke couldn't quite remember what record i had put on--it was THAT GOOD!
― ian, Monday, 16 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i've been really into this stuff lately. it's totally fitting these guys would inspire those painstaking, loving descriptions dadaismus supplies up above
― kamerad, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, feller did a great job of those write ups.
― Frank Sumatra (NickB), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
cœur de verre is such great sunny summer sunday morning music i could listen to "blätter aus dem buch der kühnheit" on repeat sipping bloody marys till lunch
― kamerad, Sunday, 19 July 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I am doing that annoying thing where a person bumps a thread just to say how much s/he loves something, but that said
I could probably listen to Popol Vuh once a day for the rest of my life and never really truly get tired of hearing them. I listened to Brüder des Schattens the other day and I'm still thinking about how much I enjoyed it.
Has anyone been to those events in London where one of their albums is played in an ancient church or something like that? I see updates on facebook but I am in no position to attend any events in London. Just wondering.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I have been tempted but not been to one
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Please go and then tell us all about it.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.britevents.com/img/event_pictures/80576.jpg
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
As long as it's not full of Goths and hippies
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
... nah, that wouldn't be so bad
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was wondering: who goes to such an event? That's part of the report I expect, btw.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I went to the first one (Affenstunde and In Den Garten Pharoahs), once we got over the slight strangeness of the situation it was very nice - good sound system, candles, mmm. Bit of a strange thing to pay £5 for but until Daniel Fichelscher plays it live again (doubtful - did they ever even play live in the first place?) it'll have to do.
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i don't know if i like this idea or not
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vTFpbd2yEbw/S7CoEs6kYYI/AAAAAAAAABs/LiL_risJSAs/s1600/official-pic.jpg
did they ever even play live in the first place?
Yes. Fricke/Fichelscher/Djong Yun line-up, I believe.
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Who goes? Um, some middle-aged record collector types (had to move to a different part of the church to get away from their "witty" sardonic comments and beer breath), a few Hoxton hipsters, dunno really. Didn't see any goths. No psychobillies either.
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
... there's even a bootleg of a gig!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4405098082_cdeab708f8_o.jpg
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Hope the T dream series stops before the 1980s era.
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh I don't know, some of that's OK too
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
How about the 90s?
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't be silly
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i have a couple live boots, one is "1973 baumberg kirche germany" and the other is from 1976 with some live roberto cacciapaglia(!)
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I've got those, but second is not Popol Vuh at all?
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
how did everyone do just sitting there still for so long? was there audible fidgeting? was the music really loud?
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
The music wasn't very loud, the worst noise pollution came from the back of the hall where they were selling cans of beer - lots of popping, clanking and fizzing. Problem solved by moving nearer the front! I had a similarly strange feeling at a Messiaen organ recital in Westminster Abbey a couple of years ago, as the organist was obviously hidden away, resulting in a "where do I look?" conundrum. The audience were better behaved at that one though, and they weren't selling beers at the back of the Abbey either, which helped.
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
really? def sounds like them
http://www.popolvuh.nl/?q=pvlive
In 1975 they visited again Italy for a concert at the University ‘La Statale’ of Milan, somewhere in september. The concert was promoted by the 'Gong' magazine (a magazine about progressive-experimental rock), after R.U. Kaiser established an agreement with the PDU label for licensing the Ohr/Pilz/DKK records in Italy.The concert was opened by a very young Roberto Cacciapaglia, who played a part of 'Sonanze'. For this occasion Popol Vuh consisted of: Florian Fricke (piano and voice), Daniel Fichelscher (guitars) and Renate Knaup (vocals and percussion).There exists a tape/bootleg from this concert.
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh maybe I haven't got that one!
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
oh man, selling beers? that's what i was afraid of. i'm getting a better picture of this event already. guess i shouldn't begrudge people the joy of purchasing beers, but...i dunno. i get it now. i still think it would be enjoyable, but definitely sit near the front.
also why was it not really super loud? i would want it to be so loud that i couldn't even think of anything else.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
http://lazyproduction.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.htmlhttp://sharebee.com/40ffa88a
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
^ live '75
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
lol this "play popol vuh albums in a church" thing is weird! is this a specifically popol vuh thing, or do they do other artists? i guess the tangerine dream pic suggests they do. i guess i can imagine going ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
is that milan show a decent recording?
i saw mention of an upcoming ash ra tempel one somewheres
tylerw - its kinda hissy and muffled
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
He's used to Velvets bootlegs, that won't bother him!
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
They're organised by these guys : http://www.sonic360.com/I think they were talking about doing Ash Ra Tempel too maybe? Easier than organising a tribute band...
xpost
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Who am I kidding, I'm already downloading it. Thanks for the link!
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i love popol vuh tons and tons and tons but i couldn't imagine going to sit in a church and drink beer to hear one of their records.
― ian, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I think they were talking about doing Ash Ra Tempel too maybe? Easier than organising a tribute band...
Finding someone who can play like Manuel Gottsching might be tricky...
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i can imagine going to sit in a church and smoke w33d to hear one of their records ... are there rules about that?
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
You'd have to ask the vicar. Hey, it's in Hoxton...
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, the vicar will roll one for you on the way in
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
now you're talkin
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link
It's called a camberwell carrot because it was invented in camberwell and it resembles a carrot.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Vicar_St_Leonards.JPG/800px-Vicar_St_Leonards.JPGthis is your man
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
dude wants to get you high and play you In den Gärten Pharaos
― tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
and save your eternal soul, natch
was hoping it would be this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R89oERKCaU
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Gobscheit <--- any realtion to Grobschnitt?
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ would be amazing name for a band parodying 3rd tier krautrock!!!
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
the only vuh album i have is herz aus glas and i love it. what should i get next?
― urkel pit (electricsound), Thursday, 13 May 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
bruder des schattens and letzte tage letzte nacht are both solid and similar in vibe.
― ian, Thursday, 13 May 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
what he said, and tantric songs is good too if you're feeling it
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 14 May 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
dear lord 'aguirre' is gooooorgeous
― kamerad, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been trancing out w/two nice Popol Vuh compilations:
http://d.yimg.com/ec/image/v1/release/46920;encoding=jpg;size=300;fallback=defaultImage
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rhd8Bal9L._SS500_.jpg
― mars bonfire (m coleman), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Love that first cover- it's a Herzog megamix!
― Neil S, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link
That first comp pictured above was my introduction to PV, I'd actually recommend it as a good starting point.
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
both of those covers are intense!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Has any of the music for this ever been released? It drives me crazy that I can't find the main theme for this film anywhere.
― SoftDog (MaresNest), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/18046748
^^ lunar eclipse video, watch while listening to 2 min pv song of your choice
my choices: ...als lebten die Engel auf Erden (pretty) or mantra of the touching of the earth (scary)
― ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
shit totally forgot to watch that eclipse
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
it was snowing here so i had to rely on the video :(
― ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
guess i missed the geminids meteor shower too haha (dec. 13)
this needs reposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON-CogKcfk
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I11QLGgETY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8E3Q5iZsY
― old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice-looking boxset, though it's just five of the SPV soundtracks and no bonus tracks:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K%2B%2BrahEoL._SS400_.jpg
**Super luxurious, Limited edition 5CD collector's box including 98-page hardback book** The divine music of Popol Vuh is inextricable from the Werner Herzog films it soundtracks. German label SPV have compiled their body of five full length cinematic commissions Heart of Glass (1976), and the Klaus Kinski-starring Aguirre (1972), Nosferatu (1979), Fitzcarraldo (1982) and Cobra Verde (1987) in one beautiful box set. Scoring Herzog's 'Aguirre', Popol Vuh, lead by Florian Fricke, established a longstanding relationship with the director, providing him with a milestone of electronic music which is still named as a masterpiece to this day. Fricke's innately moving compositions presaged the electronic ambient and new age genres, incorporating avant-garde classical, religious music, prog and krautrock themes into a substantial, harmonically rich sound. As fellow krautrock pioneer Klaus Schulze says "Here, he went on to create a new world, which Werner Herzog loves so much, transforming the thought pattern of electronic music into the language of acoustic ethno music" perfectly reflecting the films inherent themes of humanity, religion and nature. Over the next fifteen years Fricke's musical evolution was charted by his work for Herzog, weaving increasingly elaborate instrumentation into the electronic fabric of his compositions. Between his captivating choral work for Nosferatu, the operatic classicism of Fitzcarraldo, or the breathtaking lushness of Cobra Verde, Fricke and Popol Vuh inspired a generation and re-defined the art of the soundtrack. This box set is a tremendous testament to his accomplishments - grab one while you can.
― Can your monkey do the Bot? (seandalai), Thursday, 20 January 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
vinyl box of hard to find stuff, please!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
pleeeeeease that i would buy
a box of 5 albums i already have with a book? only if i had a gift card that needed to be spent. lovelovelove these albums but i already have them and i'm not crazy enough to double up on cds.
― ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
WANT
WANT SO BAD
― children of the church planters (Edward III), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
^
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link
could listen to this till the end of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u7vzaqITMA
― children of the church planters (Edward III), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Aguirre is the only own I already own out of those five.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Same here, though the fact that they're all on Spotify makes me substantially less likely to shell out £40. It does look nice though.
― Can your monkey do the Bot? (seandalai), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah kinda want this -- don't have cobra verde or heart of glass. box is not terribly expensive, given that it's "super luxurious"
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
already have most of these, curious about the book but not enough to buy it
― am0n, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
coeur de verre is one of my favorites of all of their records -- get it immediately!
― ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, I have heard it.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Zsl3kJlVc
― am0n, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
so good
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
revive!!
here's the latest reissue, with a disc of remixes by Moritz von Oswald, Stereolab, etc:
http://www.factmag.com/2011/05/20/popol-vuh-remixed-by-moritz-von-oswald-stereolab-and-more/
― geeta, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
I've been waiting for this to come out!! It's even on my calendar. Have you heard it?
― Garyln (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
june 24th -- i guess i'm going to be reviewing it? i'm trying to figure out who's working the promo for this. it's not forced exposure.
― geeta, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i'm only really interested in disc 2 since i could assemble disc 1 myself, but w/e
― Garyln (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
oh man i thought this came out on june 24, and i started to get excited, but then i realized it was july 24 :(
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
ah. it's already out in germany, but it won't be coming out til july 24 in the US.
― geeta, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
just got my hands on this--reviewing it for the Voice.
my favorite remixes: 'In den Gärten Pharaos' remixed by Moritz von Oswald, 'Nachts: Schnee' remixed by Mika Vainio
the Thomas Fehlmann remix of 'Schnee' is also very nice
'Through Pain to Heaven' remixed by Mouse on Mars is super glitchy, sounds like Mouse on Mars circa 'Radical Connector'
not really feeling the Stereolab remix of 'Hosianna Mantra'
― geeta, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
cool, sounds interesting. did anyone buy that soundtracks box set? i still haven't dropped the $$$. convince me to do it! is the book pretty?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
Still loving the Moritz remix...it's kind of refreshing to hear him making straight up techno again after all that Moritz von Oswald Trio stuff
The Stereolab remix I have more time for, after listening to it a few more times...but there's something very mysterious about the original, and Stereolab's take on it sounds very Stereolab, and not mysterious at all
― geeta, Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i finally got a record by these suckas!
it's good
aguirre it's call, think it's a film soundtrack, got it on vinyl at a garage sale
it's kinda like if cluster and the grateful dead made a record together
― the beta banned (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
next step you should see the movie! it's the bessssst. it's like if david lean and the grateful dead made a movie together.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
next next step: get another pv record
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
When love is calling you, turn around
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
ahhhhhhh
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
two things:
* wanted but did not buy aguirre LP b/c it was 25 euros -- is that ridiculous or am i crazy?!?!* listened to heart of glass while walking through an aquarium, it was totally awesome, took these pictures
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5943113488_39c77754e5.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/5943102858_09729fc8bf.jpg
still haven't received my remixes yet, but waiting patiently
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Excellent! Those jellyfish are like flying saucers apart from that one weird ghost dude on the right.
― Quantum of Pie (NickB), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
really fucking great pictures, way to go. you srsly added to an already rad thread.
― 69, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
man I thought that diving suit was a painting, the lighting is uncanny
― ogmor, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
yea, those are wild!
― original bgm, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
reminds me of this guy's pics
― 69, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
thanks! i have others (the one of a turtle floating serenely through space is a personal fave) but haven't gotten around to vacation photo organization yet.
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
Aside from Ian, whose wedding inspired this fine jpg, the only other people on earth likely to appreciate the magic of this are the people who would click on this thread:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6026740889_67e484325b.jpg
As for the remix album, my mixed feelings are sort of coalescing into a dull appreciation of several tracks. I like the Mouse on Mars, Stereolab, and Alex Barck remixes the best, but mostly I like the ones where I can actually hear the PV song.
Q: is remixed krautrock/cosmische what beardo disco is? i truly have no idea.
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
that's my pup
aquarium pix are AMAZING
― chief content officer (m coleman), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
Love it!Can't help you with the beardo question.I want to start a Popol Vuh tribute act.Maybe I just want to see one. Maybe not.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
I would totally see a PV tribute act -- don't have the skills to be in one by anyone's standards though. I could be the svengali behind it, I suppose.
Would need a visual component too -- I'd like to see some National Geographic cutting room floor nature stuff from the 70s and 80s? Can you imagine?! There must be a ton of material out there.
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
i'm in the process of recording a version of "cortez the killer" that is (hopefully) in the vein of the vuh's aguirre sdtk. it sounds rad in my mind. don't know if it'll come out rad. but it'll be 20-25 minutes, I think.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
Would listen!
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
it might be my life's work.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
I would totally see a PV tribute act -- don't have the skills to be in one by anyone's standards though
You only need to know one chord for a lot of their stuff!
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
I suppose if someone told me what to do, I could do it. I've always appreciated the drumming.
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
Now that's difficult
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
tribute act would definitely have to dress in these. and perform underwater. http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5943113488_39c77754e5.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
25min cortez/aguirre hybrid TOTALLY sounds rad!
― original bgm, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
can't you just hear it? and doesn't it sound sooo good? PS NO ONE STEAL MY IDEA.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
it also offers a familiar context (cortez the killer familiar to all kinds of people not likely to pick up or even listen to a PV record)
brills, now you gotta record it!!
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
*anticipates furiously*
― original bgm, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
everyone hold your breath. it's happening. gonna try to get this guy to guest on it. actually both of these guys. somehow. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9FzQXECMKS1YxrVTWl6rpc0GNvPEvAbdUW_uNgboI436rYscfWQ
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
hold my breath or hold my horses?
― it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
both
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
title track on hosianna mantra might have the most majestic guitar solo ever
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
Dadaismus' reviews upthread are all-time
A couple of weeks ago I listened to all the albums 1971-1977 and then had to listen to them again, and then again ... I think Einsjäger und Siebenjäger is my favorite right now
― Brad C., Friday, 30 September 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
what dadaismus did up top is inspiring. this band deserves that quality of attention
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, those reviews are GREAT and I refer to them a lot!
BTW Dadaismus = Tom D.
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
I listen to Popol Vuh a lot. Maybe too much. It always feels like not enough.
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
let me explain
1) what dadaismus did up top is inspiring. this band deserves that quality of attentionsuper duper otm. writing about popol vuh seems like it would be really hard to do, and he has done it so well and with such attention to the best details. i came to popol vuh sort of by accident, and decided it was something i should explore further, but only after maybe 10 years had passed from the first time i heard them, tangerine dream, shit like that. when i read his reviews, it was gratifying to find that his favorites were also my favorites (Brüder des Schattens, Söhne des Lichts and Herz au Glas in particular) and that there were favorites I hadn't heard yet.
2) remember that "listen to popol vuh recording while sitting in a church" event discussed upthread? i thought some time would pass and i would realize that this is a silly idea. instead, time has passed and i find myself still thinking that this sounds like an enjoyable activity, minus the people plinking their plastic beer cups.
anyway, --> actual question ----> recommended books/articles containing interesting information about popol vuh? i haven't done much reading about them tbh.
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for all the kind words everyone! I'm no music critic but just felt the need at the time to share my thoughts on some great music. I don't know of any books on Popol Vuh. There are articles 'n' stuff online if you look, some of which are useful for reminding you that Florian Fricke et al were not a bunch of head-in-the-clouds mystics (I remember reading one where Danny Fichelscher was drunk and being obnoxious). First article I ever saw on Popol Vuh was in an old issue of Sounds by Sandy Robertson, an interview from ca. 1980.
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
I did not realize a "soundtracks" PV box set had come out
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
Weird I just listened to aguire this morning at breakfast, lovely album
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
popol vuh rules. still need to get that soundtracks box. i've got most of it already, but it looks so niiiiiice.
― tylerw, Monday, 3 October 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
i know, me too! i was (am, i guess) holding out for a vinyl version but i would really like to see the book. i will look up that article you mentioned, tom. thanks.
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
i lucked into a weird pressing of aguire at a garage sale for $4 :)
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
will admit that i was envious when i read that upthread
i've only even seen a PV record one time, and that was aguirre in a tiny jazz store in paris, and it was really expensive! actually that's not true -- i have this because someone gave it to me (thanks jeff/jenny!) http://www.amarcordrecords.it/images/rockeurope/rockpicturespopolvuhherzogre.jpg
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
The SPV remasterings are not all better than the Spalax CDs. IIRC I still prefer the Spalax releases for Herz aus Glas and Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht. Would have to go compare again...
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
I have that soundtracks box and the book is kinda mostly fluff, unfortunately.
― original bgm, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
some nice pics tho.
they ketpt the same terrible remaster packaging for the individual cases (identical booklets, giant, weird fricke pic) as well.
― original bgm, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
is this the article?
http://www.popolvuh.nl/archsounds1981
otherwise the only thing i can find (maybe i am not searching well?) is this
http://www.enso-on.com/2008/09/popol-vuh-florian-fricke-1981-interview.html
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
'A CLEARER VUH-POINT' XD
― original bgm, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
oh why not
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x0YsFNqhV0M/SN_WuaR3mQI/AAAAAAAACa4/DP8l34QQ0wk/s1600-h/sounds+popol+vuh+bb.jpg
― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
oops that image must have been too big
@Jon, both the Spalax and SPV versions of Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht are equally and atrociously muddy. Maybe the original tapes were that way? I still have the Spalax for Herz Aus Glas and it's good to know that I didn't need to bother with the "upgrade."
― doug watson, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
I re-read that 1981 article last night when I couldn't sleep, and this stuck out in particular because I am on a Herzog kick.
Both Werner Herzog and Florian Fricke have a vision that is almost religious in its intensity but lately a divergence has appeared in their ways of seeing.Florian has no time for blissed-out hippy-trippy muzak and feels that it’s not enough to show a phoney happiness all the time, and yet despite the awesome powers at play in the light and shade of Popol Vuh he does not see himself as being at one with his friend.Herzog revels in conflict: When he was refused permision to unleash thousands of rats on the town of Delft for a scene in ‘Nosferatu’, he met the truck bringing the rats back with a tractor on which he perched himself, forcing the truck to go in the opposite direction.“Too much the darkness”, says Florian.
― the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Monday, 14 November 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
too much the darkness indeed!
was working on my vuh/cortez the killer cover w/ my two year old this morning. think we've got the keyboard sound down! at the rate i'm going this project will be completed sometime in 2015.
― tylerw, Monday, 14 November 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
it has been three monthswhere is our cortez the killer?!
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
at the rate i'm going this project will be completed sometime in 2015 2018.
― tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
;_;
i hope the song is three years long
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
at least that long. until thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjBtHVOyFE
― tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
i guess that'll do.
just out of curiosity to anyone who would bother to click on this thread:
assuming you already went through the active devouring phase, how frequently do you listen to popol vuh right now?
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
me? 1-3x per week probably, a lot for any one band by my standards. this has been going on for years. that's why i asked.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
i end up listening to them whenever this thread is bumped. right now!
― tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
weekly and often multiple times during the week. ususally makes my evening commute bearable
― sknybrg, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
I only listen to them once every few months. If I had more than two of their lps I would probably listen to them more.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, once every few months for me too. Always on vinyl. Faves are the first three, Affenstunde, In den Gärten Pharaos and Hosianna Mantra. I will always keep coming back to them.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
you are people who know how it's done.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
1-3x per week here, usually first album of the morning
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
I just got a giant Amazon credit and bought their Herzog soundtracks box set, on the strength of watching Nosferatu a while back and then hearing one amazing track on a Projekt Records compilation that came from an album I was unable to even find a picture of after searching for like ten years. Next week should be fun!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
I really need a copy of Einsjager Sebenjager or whatever its called.My favorite stuff is the Fichelscher era.
― Trip Maker, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte was my second PV album and I think it's still my favorite. Honestly though I don't think there's even one I have that I don't like.
Also best coverhttp://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/8011614912926.jpg
Can't wait until the weather gets nicer and I can resume my weekly bike trips to the plant conservatory to walk around/look at plants/listen to spaced out PV jams. It really never gets old!
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
I have about 10 of the records, and actually I listen to the early electronic stuff as much as I listen to the prime mid-'70s stuff. I really like Heart of Glass soundtrack--Popul Vuh were ultimate acoustic-space-liturgical sprawl, better at it than just about anyone. The Floyd, Mike Oldfield, I dunno. The vibe is never as...wily...as Eno can be even in the ambient stuff. More nature-mystic, perhaps? I've seen some comps of their work around; has there ever been a dedicated U.S.-aimed comp of their work?
― Edd Hurt, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
I really like Heart of Glass soundtrack--Popul Vuh were ultimate acoustic-space-liturgical sprawl, better at it than just about anyone. totally! heart of glass was my first PV album. i think? pretty sure it was, then letzte tage, then future sound experience, and at that point i was sold for life. i could really blather on and on but there would be no point.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
there's this weird one, but it's not really a "greatest hits" or anythinghttp://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=4921http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/popol-vuh.jpgit's pretty nice though, esp. the long piano thing.
― tylerw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
there was a 2cd "revisited and remixed" cd last year
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revisited-Remixed-1970-99-Popol-Vuh/dp/B004UBB3QU/
1. Aguirre I Lacrima Di Rei2. Affenstunde3. In Den Garten Pharaos4. Ich Mache Einen Spiegel5. Nachts - Schnee6. Eine Andere Welt7. In Your Eyes8. Train Through Time9. Nascita10. Bruder Des Schattens11. Through Pain To Heaven12. Kailash: Last Village
plus a disk of remixes by people like Mika Vainio, Mouse On Mars, Stereolab...
― koogs, Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
(also on amazon.com)
I listen all the time! This is a great thread, it's what pushed me to really dig into the catalog.
Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte is the one for me, followed by Sei Still, Wisse Ich Bin (the production!!!!) although they're all really great in different ways. They also all kind of blend together in the best way possible for me, like they only actually have one song that is 10 albums long or something!
― liam fennell, Sunday, 19 February 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
there's always 1:19 for thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8E3Q5iZsY
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
I think about that sequence every time I listen to PV. I love that little tune... it turns up in several places in the discography. (also that's my favorite Herzog film).
I like the mastering of the old Spalax version of Letzte Tage more than the 21st century remastered one available now. I hope I come across a used copy of the Spalax LT, LN someday.
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
I just checked and I have the Spalax version. There's one that sounds different than this one?
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
My LT, LN is a vinyl reissue on "Think Progressive." It is a little muddy sounding? But I love it.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
i'm always kinda wondering whether my popol vuh stuff sounds muddy n murky because that's just the way it was recorded or whether it's been transferred in a less than optimal way. but it doesn't really matter in the end.
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
It's def among my favorite Herzog films too btw. The Bruno years were really really really good.
Mine sounds clear, but it's a CD -- I wish someone would reissue all of this stuff and give it the treatment and also outtakes etc.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
(on vinyl i mean -- years of looking have yielded me zilch in terms of pv lps aside from the ONE aguirre soundtrack i found that was 40 euros, ie too much) maybe this is naive, i dunno. but honestly i would take cutting room floor scraps of PV for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and spend my hard-earned dollars to do so.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
The one which is in print in a couple of different incarnations is from the label run by Fricke's son, that's the remaster that has been available for a decade or so. It sounds like it was decently mastered from vinyl. The Spalax sounds like it was mastered from the tapes.
There were one or two others in the remastered line which were mastered from vinyl IIRC. Heart of Glass mebbe? I have the Spalax for that one so I'm not sure.
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
music from 'woodcarver steiner'
http://www.box.com/shared/f612eh1qsr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLGcd9Az9w
― am0n, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Awesome!
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
cool! the whole movie is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liYnvIBLMBQ
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
I've been listening to the soundtracks boxset very much over the past couple of weeks, and I think Aguirre is the key.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
hey thanks am0n!
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
also, I killed like three hours at work today reading about ski jumping after watching that.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
hell yeah! thanks am0n
― Paul, Friday, 27 April 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
amazing how well the music fits to the ski jumping picures in slow motion. thanks, am0n, great stuff.
― alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.popolvuh.nl/files/baubravo72_1.jpg
... photo from this site which all Vuhheads should visit
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
Holger Trülzsch, as well as being a mean bongo player, seems to have been a photographer who did a lot of work with Veruschka, the jaw-dropping 60s model, who of course donned a false beard to appear as Jesus in Florian Fricke's "Sei Still wisse ich bin"... Munich, incestuous little scene or what?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
... also I noticed the other day that Florian's wife (soon to be wife?), Bettina, was a production assistant on Herzog's "Even Dwarfs Started Small"
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link
This is going to be the summer of Popol Vuh.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
I approve of this ^^^ message!
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
One Vuh-y Summerhttp://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/Cusack&Demi.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
I just heard "In Den Garten Pharoahs" (however its spelled), and, whoa. "Vuh" sounds like the music is coming at you from a mile away, just this organ *WRRREEEEEEEEEEAKKK*. Is this album good?
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
It is... for some reason I almost never reach for it though? It's like the path PV were not destined to take
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
YES it is so good. I find it colder than some of the other stuff but still enjoy it frequently.
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
I'm just having trouble figuring it out now. You know how some albums are completely forgettable when you hear them quietly, but earth-shattering when you hear them loud?
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
Best on headphones, preferably while lying still and prone but ymmv.
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
class dude
http://www.popolvuh.nl/drupal-5.5/files/ff_sei_still_0.jpg
― JoeStork, Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
3 years later and I've eventually heard the Flower Travellin' Band track and it reminds me of... the 2nd track on "Letze Tage, Letzte Nachte"
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link
oooooOOOOOOOOooooo it totally sounds like that but super fuzzed out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o5FZxRgRqM
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
Oh jeez I completely forgot to play any Popol Vuh on my krautrock spotlight radio program last night.I suppose I don't really think of PV in the same light as Can, Neu!, Faust, and Amon Duul.Still, it's weird that I completely forgot about them. There aren't enough minutes in a two hour radio program to play all the German Prog classics, anyway.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
hey brooklyn zoo, the record grouch as a bunch of popol vuh records on the wall right now. i haven't stopped by yet, this is on a tip from my man keegan
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
my heart started racing a little when i read that
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
awwww la lech! i can post a list here later after i go by and if anyone wants anything i will buy & ship.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
i think he said they had 5 or 6.
I want to start a band that does tranced-out covers of Abba songs called Popol Voulez-Vous
― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
IAN -- please! yes please!
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I suppose I don't really think of PV in the same light as Can, Neu!, Faust, and Amon Duul.
All these bands were so different; I can't really think of what the "prototypical" Krautrock band would be. I don't think Amon Duul even fits with the other three.
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVo6CDPzbis
― am0n, Saturday, 30 June 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7CXFU6PGUI
― am0n, Saturday, 30 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
I want to have a popol vuh music video contest for students focusing on finding and editing archival footagehow awesome would that be to judge?!
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 July 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
A pretty great essay from Head Heritage on Aguirre:http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/thebookofseth/popol-vuh-music-from-the-film-aguirre
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
i read that a while ago, it was a really great essay!!
pv must be the most powerful band in the world to inspire hyperbole of this magnitude, but i cannot argue with his last sentence at all.
Throughout this juxtaposition, Eternity sits above on her fat and absorptive throne of royal jelly not watching but anticipating all manifold, inevitable outcomes without a care and still it continues in its sad and joyful caresses. It’s beyond words. It’s beyond worlds. Play it at my funeral and I will be released.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
this one is good too http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/thebookofseth/popol-vuh-affenstunde
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/66609_448065677609_2509972_n.jpg
― am0n, Monday, 2 July 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
Will never get tired of seeing that photo, nor of listening to Popol Vuh of all eras save City Raga.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Monday, 2 July 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
I actually kinda like City Raga. Realize it's only tangentially related to the classic-era stuff (about as much Deep Forest as Popol Vuh) but I kept it in my car for a long time, and it makes great roadtrip music.
― Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Monday, 2 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
heywaitasecond
i can post a list here later after i go by and if anyone wants anything i will buy & ship.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:37 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark
my birthday is coming up...
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
(translation: i am feeling compelled to buy myself a present)
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
i still think about these records that i didn't buy and wonder what they were.
recently i watched the demme/herzog interview thingie from the bonus disc of encounters at the end of the world and herzog goes on about how much he loves music and blablabla. then demme's like "so popol vuh...what is that?" and oh did i scoff! do some homework, demme! geez.
anyway, i was thinking about popol vuh so i thought i would bump this thread for old time's sake.
Play it at my funeral and I will be released. <--- still hits home
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
speaking of Herzog, i recently read Every Night the Trees Disappear from cover to cover and there was NO MENTION of Popol Vuh whatsoever, which is fine -- I get the scope of the book. but still, i'd have liked one sentence? two sentences? an offhand mention? nothing.
lots of good moments though -- i recommend the book if you're into that sort of thing. here's a sample i posted to another thread for an altogether different (worse) reason
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8492/8330412332_037b642f3d_b.jpg
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
this ever get posted here?
http://thequietus.com/articles/03775-the-great-ecstasy-of-the-sculptor-popol-vuh
― ♨ (am0n), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
good article
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I missed that before. Especially great paragraph starting with 'Having been taught composition...'
― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
i c/ped like three different paragraphs before i decided to go with a simple "good article" because i was getting too excited
cult-like devotion: activated
Popol Vuh, then, is uneasy listening, but like all the best mood music it envelops you in its own sound world, cocooning the listener in waves of sound. Fricke rarely played live and submitted to few interviews but inspired a kind of cult-like devotions amongst his fans. One of his very last projects was an audio-visual installation based around the myth of Orpheus - perhaps the 'cult' musician par excellence, of whom it was claimed his music could coax the trees and rocks into dance. He referred to the acoustically designed chambers of the installation as "good rooms", explaining in a contemporary interview, "We hear so much that we don't hear anything." Now, as music becomes increasingly the atomised personal soundtrack to every mundane activity, the music and ideas of a soundtrack composer for whom music was never background music, and always inseparable from a community of the faithful, from site and from ritual, may prove to be a much needed corrective, or cleansing purgative.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
We hear so much that we don't hear anything
This strikes so painfully close to home for me right now. I am actually aiming to change this in my life starting today.
― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
it's definitely hibernation timealso i think i read that article before when i was trying to find info about those PV listening parties in the church
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
I only really discovered PV last year, while watching Nosferatu. I was struck by the music and promptly bought the Herzog soundtrack box counting on all of it being as good. At the same time I made a resolution to watch more Herzog movies. The box is awesome and gets played regularly - everything except Fitzcarraldo (although I love the movie the opera stuff on the soundtrack annoys me).
More recently, I bought Affenstunde. I like that one too. Great, moody stuff, all of it. Equally well-suited to deep listening or as background while reading.
― Doctor Flange, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Florian Fricke in fact shares with the purveyors of mood music a great many concerns: the exotic fascination with faraway lands of Martin Denny, Les Baxter and the 101 Strings; the massed voices and Gregorian influence of Ray Conniff and the Swingle Singers; the use of found sounds and field recordings of Frank Clacksfield; the space-age sounds of Gershon Kingsley; the mysticism and promised healing properties of Andreas Wollenscheider's New Age music.
ok but why do i find popol vuh endlessly absorbing and yet am bored senseless by everyone else mentioned above
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 3 January 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago) link
Because no sane person would choose to eat a bowl full of flour or a handful of butter when there's a fresh flaky delicious croissant right there on the table?
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:58 AM
theres a kitsch element to a lot of those thats more upfront so u have to be willing to put up with that (i happen to like martin denny, les baxter, ray conniff) whereas popol vuh doesn't wear the exotica/new ageness on their sleeve as much
― ♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
I thought they were weird comparisons too, but i guess it's because people think of PV as "mood music" -- I'm not sure I do, really, nor could I use any of their albums as background music while reading. I'd be too distracted.
I do recommend (as I have said what seems like 1000x) listening to PV while walking through a plant conservatory or museum (esp if it has a lot of dioramas) or aquarium or other indoors/outdoors sort of place.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
now i want a croissant
― ♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Are Popol Vuh really the croissant of music?
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
in den garten croissant. but yeah as LL sez, being out and about with the vuh really does work -- the first time i "fell" for popol vuh outside of herzog's films was walking around government center in boston (with a walkman!) listening to a PV comp a friend had made for me. i think i was christmas shopping.
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
It's the kitsch factor that puts me off that stuff. I have listened to a couple Vangelis albums lately so I'm not totally immune. Croissants are too buttery for my tender tummy :(
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
You were rocking non stop at a government center? In Boston?xpost
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
had to make those secretaries feel better
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
I've never used that comparison before (was just thinking about flour and butter mostly), but croissants are pretty transcendent so I guess I'll stick with it. For me, a delicious flaky croissant is a truly sublime baked good.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
I like the comparison the more I think about it--croissants truly are transcendent--but the problem is now my brain wants to compare other bands to baked goods (specifically wondering who would be the cheese danish) and that's just a terrible idea.
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
listening to Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte this morning btw. not one i reach for often because of its more rock nature, but it is sounding croissantastic right now. is that Gila album good? i've never heard it.
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, it is. I do prefer the "rock" PV albums to the soundtracks and synth epics, though.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i think i'm coming around on the more rock stuff more and more.
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
the end of Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte's title track kinda sounds like the Dead.
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte is my favorite Popol Vuh. LOVE that album!
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
And I hope it never gets remastered because I love that muddy sound, whether intentional or not. :)
― xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
deplorable lack of PV on Spotify, but at least they have Tantric Songs, which I haven't heard elsewhere
― Brad C., Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
xp - oh god me tooand the cover is one of my favorite album covers of all time
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
it is funny, whenever i start playing popol vuh record, i think, "man, they should have recorded this better," but by the end of it, i do not think that at all. <3 the mud!
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
damn it, the only Gila album I can find on mog
https://search.mog.com/v2/albums/38135579/image.jpeg?size=800
it's probably pretty good tho, right?
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
LT-LN is not as muddy on the Spalax CD as it is on the SPV CD.
I like Herz aus Glas a wee bit more than LT-LN if truth be told. It's kind of perfect. LT-LN doesn't quite live up to 'Grosse Krieger' IMO.
The Gila album (Wounded Knee, not the one above) is definitely worth owning. It's not going to overhaul your world but it's good.
― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
still don't have this oop pv album but someone put the whole thing on yootoob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFc1Uon-w
― ♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
I've never been able to decide which one I like better. Every time I think it's one, the other one comes along and ~whoa~
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
I think I consider my 2nd fave PV album to be Bruder des Schattens aka the alternate version of Nosferatu. When I want innigkeit piano chamber Vuh. LT-LN coming in a close 3rd.
― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
still think this is the high point of their rock side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQTOX8iokM
― ♨ (am0n), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
See what I want is a whole album of track 1 of Einsjager... that's pure guitar bliss right there
― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^^
― silver pozole (clouds), Friday, 4 January 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
All my student neighbors are still gone for the break, so the other night I was playing Bruder des Schattens, Aguirre, and Das Hohelied Salomons really loud.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
You know how to live!
― bish borscht (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
I really like their rockin' stuff; it has this regal majestic flavor to it that is irresistible.
― 2am chopped top (brimstead), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
I think right now Hosianna Mantra and Seligpreisung are my favorite Popol Vuh records. I've been listening to them on the 45 minute drive to work as the sun is coming up and Oklahoma is frozen, it's nice.
― JacobSanders, Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
^^ that sounds wonderful
* i have some croissants in the oven (just the rise-overnight kind, nothing fancy) and they smell divine.* there's a goofy women's dance party thing that i dj'ed yesterday, and we have to do a warm-up and cool-down song and i chose "sing, for song drives away the wolves" as my cool down song -- i looked around the hot hot hot dance studio and there was stretching, meditating, yoga, eyes closed, eyes open. perfect and totally heavenly.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
every time I see this thread I think of Kevin Federline's "Popozao"
― frogbs, Monday, 14 January 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
you know, in Portuguese, it means bring your ass, on the floor and move it real fast
― frogbs, Monday, 14 January 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
hahai shoulda put that on my dance mix
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
u should use http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Yoga/release/799452
― ♨ (am0n), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
yknow, i don't have that one! i knew i bumped this thread for a reason.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
pv is gonna help this apartment get clean
― #YOLO magic orchestra (clouds), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
Yoga's not an official release, Fricke disowned it... still worth a listen.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Not really Popol Vuh though
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
the cover art for In Den Garten Pharaohs always astounds me - the design looks so modern, like it's from a 2008 reissue
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
I'm on the train right now on my way to purchase, for better or worse, an Affenstunde reissue. I figure that's all that'll be left for nonmillionaires at some pt anyway. It's under $25.
It's dusk and the light is beautiful outside the train window. The woman next to me is wrapped in a plush blanket with cartoon bunnies and deer on it.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
you are an odd bird LL
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
a beautiful bird of paradise
― #YOLO magic orchestra (clouds), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
np at my desk: T Dream, Sorcerer sdtrk. Close enough.
You should get an affenpinscher to go with your affenstunde!
― the dyspeptic Hirax (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks to my extensive AKC research as a child, I know what an affenpinscher is, and they are v cute. They're like mini-yetis.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
Also once I dressed up as a bluebird of paradise for Halloween so at the risk of sounding immodest, clouds otm ;)
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
hallo! http://puppydogweb.com/gallery/affenpinschers/images/affenpinscher_rydju.jpg
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
next assignment: picture of you in bluebird costume
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
have we posted this milan show? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyEHm-rEMJ0what's the deal? is it actually popol vuh? someone upthread made the claim it was not. what the vuh?
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:53 AM
― ༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo that sounds good
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
p.v. comes in just before the 14 min mark of that vid. before that is the cacciapaglia piece
― ༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
ah gotcha. yeah this is good, though the recording is not perfect.
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
the end is ... funky? is that still them?
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
actually that sounds like more cacciapaglia. the boot mp3s i have only go to about 45 min mark hmm
― ༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
that might make more sense (though i don't really know what cacciapaglia is supposed to sound like).
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
The sound is abysmal but it's worth a listen.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
he sounds like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s_DAvuvcc
but also thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHCvfkvxg8c
― ༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Friday, 18 January 2013 05:20 (eleven years ago) link
^ Both great albums
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Friday, 18 January 2013 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yeah, if this sounds anything like Popol Vuh crossed with Ann Steel I need to hear it asap.
― LAST DAY to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
deplorable lack of PV on Spotify
more/different stuff up there now, including the Herzog soundtracks box set
― Brad C., Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Only in the US though. Europe only gets the Revisited & Remixed 1970-1999 comp.
― questino (seandalai), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
That's weird and unfortunate. I'm sorry.
Can we talk about how great Agape-Agape is? I listened to it last night as I was trying to fall asleep and it was super dreamy.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
"They danced, they laughed, as of old" is a well structured jam afaic.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, but it's just the end bit of "Die Umkehr" from "Bruder des Schattens..." isn't it? Good album but the production lets it down.
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
Is it? I honestly can't tell sometimes. The production is kinda bad, you're right. I just wondered why no one ever talked about that album.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
When's it from? 1983 or something? Who would expect a "Krautrock" band still to be any good in 1983? Also, I'm sure it was only released on an independent - I think it was on Uniton, which is a Norwegian label.
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
What in tarnation is this? http://www.discogs.com/Florian-Fricke-Die-Erde-Und-Ich-Sind-Eins/release/1317995
― OG requiem head (Call the Cops), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 09:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.popolvuh.nl/dieerdeundich
― ☏ (am0n), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
It wasn’t put out for the music business, but for therapeutics. The background to it is that I experienced early on that the original sense of music is not for going crazy, but that it has an enormous effect on the psyche and the physical aspect of Humanity. And originally it was only used in these way thousands of years ago. And in the bourgeois development of the Romantics suddenly we are shown that the melancholy of Brahms is important or the morbid side of Chopin. And I’m absolutely not interested in any of that. Egotism through music doesn’t interest me, but rather the unbelievable active changing power of music. To go from speech to responsibility.
Man, why can't we have a Fricke On Music volume?
― there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
FOR REAL
You could label it as ‘Body-space music’ (Körperraummusik) where you sing inside the body and take it in such a way that every cell in the body, from the sole of the foot to the crown of the head, starts to vibrate. In order to be able to realise this I have experimented to find where speech resonates in the body. The consonants vibrate at the body walls, the bones and flesh and the vowells fill the body spaces. And that sounds like a gong-concert: it also has a great therapeutic effect.
― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
No blog visibility on this one? Would love to hear it.
― OG requiem head (Call the Cops), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
When the soles of my feet start to sing, I will know I have arrived at full therapeutic resonance.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
"And that sounds like a gong-concert"
We can safely assume he does not mean Daevid Allen etc here.
― there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder if he heard rhys chatham's "two gongs"
― groundhog-enorme-toute-grosse-253x300.jpg (clouds), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
This perked my ears up on the Kraftwerk thread yesterday:
5) Two of Kraftwerk's most famous sound effects came from a speaking-aid for deaf-mute children, and a popular toy. The Vortrax was invented in Detroit in the early 1970s. A hand-held machine that looked a bit like a pocket calculator, it produced the distorted vocal choir sound that can be heard on 1975's 'Uranium', which was later sampled in the opening build-up of New Order's 'Blue Monday'.
This is slightly off; the Vortrax was used for the vocodered spoken word part, but I'm about 99.4% positive that the 'vocal choir' sound mentioned is just an Orchestron keyboard, the same one they use for Radioactivity (and the same one Popol Vuh used for 'Aguirre' etc). It never occurred to me that 'Blue Monday' lifted a 'Uranium' sample directly, but now that it's mentioned that makes sense!
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Went and looked on the app store and hola there is a 99 cent Orchestron simulator app for iPhone, which includes the Aguirre-esque choir patch and a few other patches. Fun! It has programmable chord pads too to help you cope with the teeny little imaginary keys.
― there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
Omg wut?!?
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
search 'Orchestron'
― there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
hmm that makes me want to get an iphone. what else do they do?
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
I thought Popol Vuh used the Jimmy Jackson's Choir Organ for "Aguirre". Orchestron didn't exist in 1972 after all?
Believe me I've looked high + low
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
(Don't get me started on Jimmy Jackson's Choir Organ)
Roguelike dungeon crawl games, ILX Zing Touch, fun synth and drum machine simulators, that's all I got so far.
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
xpost actually no why don't you get started on Jimmy Jackson's Choir Organ? I know nothing!
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.popolvuh.nl/pvchoir
― ☏ (am0n), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
...also first Amon Duul II review here
(I love that Planet Mellotron site!)
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
oh man its the same instrument as on Wolf City!!!
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Also, thanks a lot cause now I'm going to be saying
HABOOB
in my head all day...
― try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, it's a distinctive sound tho I'm not convinced it's not just a (perhaps malfunctioning) mellotron (xp) Haboob have an album too, which is fitfully entertaining, Choir Organ shamefully underused (I can hear it on one track only)
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
Does anyone know anything about the supposed 5 PV vinyl reissues? I saw something on their lol facebook page, but I have no idea who operates that or how much they know about what's going on. The Affenstunde reissue has not let me down AT ALL. It sounds great. In fact, now I truly understand why it's called Affenstunde.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh, that's great to hear about affenstunde! was wondering if I should pick that up and I think you just helped me get to the bottom of that little dilemma.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Will someone please tell me what is up with these Japanese reissues? All the facebook page says is "watch out for them now!" and that is not helping...
This image is all I have been able to find (haven't looked very hard, admittedly)
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/164459_10151301793167610_722187347_n.jpg
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
the LT-LN cover is giving me a heart attackWANT
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
i still can't find anything
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 March 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
'Die Erde Und Ich Sind Eins' is about to hit the blogs! Give it a week or so.
― Call the Cops, Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
What does that mean?
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
Privately produced album long sought after by sad people like me
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
Who's sad? What's sad?! Will someone let me know when this exciting thing happens?
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's an album of vocal pieces, perhaps like e.g. "Song of Earth" on "Spirit of Peace"?
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Ooh that sounds great.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
hey wait a second, did this happen?
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
Good question, to the internet to find out
― Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
i did a quick search around for it last week, but came up with zilch! maybe call the cops has the details?http://www.popolvuh.nl/files/cass_0.jpglooks pretty good.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
i hope we have someone on the case. i want this!
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
Aw man, if you want something doing... Leonardo Music Journal -- Awesome!!
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
call the cops otm!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
Awesome is the operative word
― Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, too cool!
― liam fennell, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
muchisimas gracias!
btw i found a picture of the bluebird costume! (i realized this morning that this thread is where i mentioned it before)http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8258/8678479892_812c16096f_m.jpg
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
thank you! i finally had time to figure out how to hear this and it totally sounds like it should have a herzog voiceover talking about cave-dwelling glow worms and their mating habits or something. also reminds me of ernst reijseger a little now that i think about it. anyone know what/where the picture on the cover is?
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
No idea. Spooky music!
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
ok good i thought i was being a chicken it sounds more like lost souls than people at one with the earth
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
I Am At One With The Earth - And It Is Totally Freaky
― tylerw, Friday, 26 April 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
Who are the singers?
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Well it looks like it's Vocals – Anni Morris Wieland, Bettina Fricke Waldthausend*, Dieter Prym, Florian Fricke, Friedemann Berger, Friedemann Wieland, Gisela Von Doering, Ingeborg Jahnke, Jan Lorck-Shjmerning, Jana Faust, Karl F. Weber, Klaudia Wieland
― Trip Maker, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
wait -- "song of the earth" is "agnus dei"?i have googled and found nothing about this release that i understand fully
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
It's the same tune, yes. He was fond of it and who can blame him? Interestingly, or maybe not, some of this reminded me of, respectively, Stockhausen's "Atmen gibt das Leben" and Cornelius Cardew's "The Great Learning", both of which were composed for choirs of "amateurs".
― Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
love cardew
― am0n, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqN21XDjaE
― am0n, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
and thanks for the upload CtC
― am0n, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
^ yes, thanks -- while listening I felt like I was doing dishes in the catacombs.
― Brad C., Friday, 26 April 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
Pleasure
― Call the Cops, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
I wish that I could read/speak/understand German, but I don't. Relying on google translate has, as usual, produced nothing but pure gold while trying to understand what is going on here http://www.popolvuh.nl/archsounds1971this is just the first two lines
Popol Vuh is a group of people that makes music: no music group.Popol Vuh is a group of people who live together and spend most of their time trying to make music.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
We do not see ourselves as musicians, but as people whose decision it was, what they feel and what they can feel, say in music. The belief in mediation and communication is our faith in music. The music that we make, arising from the recollection in which we willfully to learn with a desire to enter.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
just one more! the end of the first paragraph
We learn to understand our imagination, we take it, we live it. Our music and its conversion to convey this way: The traumatic life, the unconscious rooms. So our music has necessarily to lean more-without reference to the music of the indigenous people in them. We are going to find our own way a meditation form that comes from our culture. We encounter the unconscious with our consciousness, we fall out of time and stretch this moment.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
i take it back -- not sharing this would be selfish
The group lives in Peter churches in Wasserburg, in an old vicarage. This presbytery has become a creative human settlement.We're in the middle of the court music. By the time there, a sound space as an egg on the images of Hyronymus Bosch.The Moog synthesizer allows to create any sound even imaginary. This first is a danger: In the, in his Vermittluing yet unexplored medium - music - is the MOOG machine an incredibly perfect instrument to mental influence, because the processes are right: A pressed sound conveys feelings pressed, a sound open the possibility to relax, to find a creative peace.We work - in our understanding - not with tones, but with the entire Tongebäude the overtone series. Thus, the concrete sound is never limited in his room, he is related to him how the consciousness to the subconscious, he acts in it, as the center of the circle in the district. We are not trying to produce vibrations that result from a musical product, we have been working with vibrations as the starting material. This music conveys more directly than speak any other music before: The vibrations come straight to the listener.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
Two up thumbs!
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
I am happy to know the german word for the overtone series now!
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
Computer translated Fricke is its own kind of magic. Not sure why this isn't being recycled as spoken word poetry or sthg?!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
lyrics for new kosmische project
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
Tongebäude! Who wants to start this band with me...?
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
me me me
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Tongebäude is a group of people that makes music: no music group.
― tylerw, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
I'll play overtone series on a one-string fretless!
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
i can read so i nominate myself for reading this while someone noodles on a machine:
When we think of melody, then we remember how we sang as children: without intention, just for their own happiness. Eventually we left off, like the children to sing. Today we get to that, as monstrous.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
As long as you read it in a Renate Knaup accent
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
And finish it off with "My name is free your spirit pig (La Lechera), but most people call me La Lechera".
― seanda.ly (seandalai), Friday, 31 May 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link
A short interview with Florian Fricke's widow
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 August 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
totally found out a guy down the street from me is super into popol vuh. which might not be that exciting to some of you, but out here it's a rarity.
― tylerw, Thursday, 1 August 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
That's a great interview.
― Addison Doug (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
"This was the first time I heard Florian on the piano. I was fascinated while listening to him play in that old empty mosque, where chickens and cats, our daily audience, ran through the building"
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 August 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
wow, i'll have to give myself time to absorb this. how lovely!
i skimmed the questions and liked this part because it's a little insignificant tidbit that probably only his wife would know Someone wrote to Florian. "My baby cried all night . I didn´t know what to do. But when I played Hosianna Mantra it stopped at once."
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 August 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
What I would really like to be republished are the videos Kailash and Sei Still, wisse ich Bin
Ok, right, *makes note*, "Kailash", that's a bit of PV knowledge i'm lacking
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
whole thing is on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5z562mlLS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnhyuxcGiUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DRuLEJGYHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKVSPoXmPdg
― trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
Wow
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
no band footage by the looks of things. most of the music sounded v. familiar too
― trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
i'm at work atm so no way can i look at this right now but whoa
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
facebook page calling itself Popol Vuh announces this with no info about who is producing the "vinyls" or where they will be available
and some news:
POPOL VUH VINYLS OF THE FIRST 5 ORIGINAL ALBUMS
release september 2013
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
popol vuhnyls!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
THIS IS INTERESTINGhttp://www.normanrecords.com/records/139653-popol-vuh--hosianna-mantra
is this a reputable reissue company?
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
second question: should i have my local store preorder these for me or should i do it myself? not buying them does not seem to be an option. don't know if i could forgive myself, have been waiting and searching for years, etc.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
update the reissue label appears to be wah wah supersonic sounds out of barcelona? http://www.wah-wahsupersonic.com/html/lps.html
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link
sounds booty as all get out
― failed gravy (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link
i already called the store :-/gotta call back tomorrow bc person today could not answer my question
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
ooooh wah wah... picked up some of their igor wakhevitch and heldon reissues and they sound real nice.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 04:14 (ten years ago) link
The likes of Phoenix, Bamboo, etc. tend not to have websites & never list contact details, so the presence of both here is promising at least.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link
wow, watching Kailash and it is gorgeous and intense
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that guitar playing in the video is super sweet.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
Well, it's not in the video, but soundtracking the end of it ...
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
i woke up thinking about these records and trying to choose the two i wanted most because buying them all is just ridiculoushosianna mantra and in den garten won the mental race, but now i'm wondering if i just don't know the other two well enough
E & S is really cymbal crazy at the beginning!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
btw dunno if you can see this dumb link but https://www.facebook.com/notes/wah-wah-discos/the-ultimate-popol-vuh-reissues-on-wah-wah-in-autumn/576259592396376"In Den Gärten Pharaos" was originally issued in 1971, this time by Pilz, yet it wasn't precisely on the folk vein that Herr Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser was trying to keep the label into by those days. It's sound drinks directly from the same waters that brought Affenstunde, although there is a clear move towards some less dark passages, and the use of church organ as the main instrument, plus a first introduction into the ethnic music elements that Popol Vuh would soon mix into their cauldron bring new light to the sound. Reissued from the master tapes in quality vinyl pressing, full glory laminated gatefold cover and featuring bonus, an insert with liners and photos. Liner notes by Popol Vuh expert Dolf Mulder (check his amazing site on the band at http://www.popolvuh.nl/). Limited to 500 copies worlwide. ARTIST : POPOL VUHTITLE : IN DEN GÄRTEN PHARAOSLABEL : WAH WAH RECORDS SUPERSONIC SOUNDSCATALOGUE NUMBER : LPS117FORMAT : LP + INSERT
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Wah Wah is totally above board, and have been doing high quality reissues for years now. They did those "kraut folk" Lps like Broselmaschine, Holderlin etc a few years ago.. great records, and I think La Lechera might enjoy them.
popol vuh FOR LIFE
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
my store (finally called and talked to a human about this) didn't know what i was talking about but said they would call me back and took name/# but now i want to show them the label/catalogue number so they know that 1) i am not just some popol vuh crazy phone person and 2) they will order these records for me and spare me the hassle of intl shipping/receiving.
i'll write down those other names, thanks!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
if your store can't get them, forced exposure always carries Wah Wah stuff.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
Any US stores selling these? I kind of want to buy all five, but ~$50+ is a bit steep for me.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
i don't know! the guy i talked to at the store hasn't called me and i have been resisting the urge to go back in there and bug him about it for the fourth time :-/
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
That's cheap, for a textbook.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
I guess $50 is cheap when considering they're limited reissues. I just hate getting burned on conversion. It happens so often...
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
me too but i have considered it and i feel that i would play/cherish them enough to make it worth the extra oomph required to get one.i've made three phone calls and a brick and mortar visit with the exclusive intent of getting my store to order one for me, but every time i talk to someone, they just take my deets and then no one ever calls me! it's like i am doing all the work and at this point. i have invested actual time in alerting them of the existence of these reissues and expressing my intent to buy them, what more do they want from me?!
at this point, i clearly must have them.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
Release date is September 16 right?
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
link?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
i mean should i just preorder from one of the UK stores and be done with it? i thought i was saving myself some effort going through my local store but that seems to not be the case.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
http://exclaim.ca/News/popol_vuhs_early_works_treated_to_vinyl_reissue_campaign
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
Nice pic, never seen that before
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
http://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/popolvuh-9.3.20131.jpg
^ slightly less cropped version
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
http://www.normanrecords.com/poogle/index.php?artist_id=8467&q=-popol+vuh
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
*sigh*
I'll probably just go with two or three..
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah i am gonna have to break it gently to my store guy if he ever calls mei have birthday money to spend and i am not going to spend it on something that i don't really want because i waited for that dude to call meif the store has one extra, someone will buy them, don't worry
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Don't know if this is common knowledge, but Aphex Twin's Rephlex label was trying to license Affenstunde just before the new wave of CD reissues. Trivia, I know.
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
i'm not sure this was ever posted? interview with valerio cosi, who is releasing Valerio Cosi plays Popol Vuh’ this month along with the reissues. he seems pretty good, i'll give it a chance.
http://www.popolvuh.nl/interVC
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Like to hear that
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link
i wondered what is daniel fichelscher doing these days? and i found thishe sounds great!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGWFX84NkQ
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
seriously, dude tells some great stories i'm not sure at what point in the interview he removes his shirt. but i've only watched a tiny portion of it so far
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
his drum noises around 11:50 is priceless!
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
At 19:50 he goes out for cigarettes, which presumably cost him his shirt.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
isn't he delightful?!
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
my s/v agr error above is not so delightful but i can only blame myself for that
Amazing! Thanks, he does sound great! I love to hear him pronounce the album titles correctly, ha.
― liam fennell, Monday, 23 September 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
i feel that i can say several of them with confidence now! that's progress.
also, in case anyone cares, the guy at norman records has informed me that a "stickering delay" means that the records will arrive (and presumably be shipped) next week.
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
OMG OMG that was so great!!! I was about to leave work but I had to stay at my desk and watch the whole thing. It made me want to cry. That was actually some of the most concrete info about PV procedures we have had... Not much of it but still! How interesting that on tgeir first few collabs they tracked piano and drums together first and then added the rest. Ha and then when he talks abt the LPs that were the most his stuff he doesn't even mention Herz and Letzte which are by far the most guitargasmic.
also WKIW D Fichelser!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
Also, and this is distressing, I realized I don't have Seligpreisung!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
Seriously, his stories about their process were very enlightening!
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
Loved the bits about consonanten too.
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
hmmmm. continued "stickering issues" have delayed the delivery of my order from norman records. has anyone ordered from them before? they've answered all my emails (thanks, phil!) but i guess i'm feeling that charming combination of bummed and impatient.
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
i buy from them quite a bit and they've never let me down yet. pretty trustworthy imo, i don't think they'd be telling you any fibs
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
ok. that's what i needed to hear. their sales process was very reassuring in general, and they have answered all of my questions, so it's gonna be ok.
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
patience, patience!
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
i hope your order arrived
― anonymous jazz majors (Matt P), Friday, 11 October 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
It has been shipped, but hasn't arrived yet. Can't wait!!
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
I've been thinking of D fichelscher saying "overdubs!" ever since I watched that interview/whatever that was.
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
just ordered these as well! excited!
― original bgm, Friday, 11 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x0YsFNqhV0M/SN_Wt0B3TPI/AAAAAAAACaw/mDpo1YxLllI/s1600/sounds+popol+vuh+aa.jpg
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 October 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link
Norman Records are great and very trustworthy.
― ۩, Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
my records are here! i'm going to make dinner and listen to one, not sure which one!!
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
:D
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
I've been listening to the Popol Vuh Werner Herzog box set on and off over a few months. That is just some intense music.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
this man is not afraid of cymbalshttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/12944539/Amon+Dl+II+Daniel+Fichelscher+2006.jpg
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Floor Tom is die Konsonanten, cymbal is der Vowel!
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
""ohn Weinzierl, good looking guy, strong, vital"
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Oops, John Weinzierl...
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
Can't front, I will always get a little creeped out when Germans talk abt vitality/mountaineering/fresh clean air. Make exception for Danny tho.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
vitality/mountaineering/fresh clean airthree great things, what are you talking about!?
i am on a total d fichelscher kick atm
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
Oh it's just that unfortunate link the early 20c proto nazis forged between health regimens and anti semitism.
"Hey I'm in an outdoor singing society too!"
*winks ominously*
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
But that's why German hippies had to go SO FAR OUT. A lot of ghosts to chase off!
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
oh well yeah on second thought i guess that's pretty grossbut those things are great on their own, minus the association
i keep thinking about how d fichelscher showed up at a music festival with his bongos and wound up being an essential part of ADII and PV. that's pretty amazing.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Shit I gotta get some bongos ASAP.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
I guess I would also have to be willing to leave the house with them though ....
― grandavis, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
ADII are so fkin wonderful
Is it yeti and carnival he is on or carnival and wolf city?
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
the latter
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
maybe next year i will be d fichelscher for halloween and i will be able to bring my bongos and change my lifethere's a goal
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like a good goal all around.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
I need to do that this year. Right now. Halloween might even be too late.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
cmon never too late
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
La Lechera do you have a report or any thoughts on your new vinyl? I saw them yesterday for sale at Wall Of Sound in Seattle and was super tempted, but $30 is just a bit steep.
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
I do! I am not interested in dominating the thread with my personal opinions about objects, but these are some very special objects. I have been enjoying them IMMENSELY! I don't really care about the poster or the essays (there is the same set of info inside each record + a little poster) and I think it's something I've read before anyway, but I can imagine people who weren't that familiar with the Vuh getting more out of that stuff.
I've only had PV on mp3 or CD and these records definitely sound great. I'm also enjoying the ritual of flipping them over and realizing the genius of the sequencing (which really is not the same on CD/mp3). Surprise hit (cymbal crash) has been Einsjager & Siebenjager, but Pharaos sounds way way way more amazing than I remember it (I don't listen to that one as much). They're all obvs great albums.
Overall, since I bought them with birthday money and they are a special band for me, I would say the purchase was worth it. If there is an album you feel extra strongly for, I would definitely recommend buying. You will feel a brief surge of remorse (I did) that will melt as soon as you drop the needle.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
actually no, i had 2 PV records prior to the reissues
also i haven't listened to the bonus djong yun 7" yet
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
thank you!
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
no mention of it here yet, but mount eerie covered "engel der luft" from fitzcarraldo on his/their last album and it's incredible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufs3Wpg2-Y0
― clouds, Friday, 1 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
whoa that's intense!but also uh oh -- i better hurry up!!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
LL I bought Affenstunde and In Den Garten Pharoahs based on yr recommendations and I love them! So thank you. Those Spanish LP reissues are really hard to find in the US.
― sleeve, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
always glad to be of service!
i'm right about the essay inside, right? i'm pretty sure that i've read that before but i can't find it -- i think there was a scan of a magazine or something? it seemed like a lot of familiar info to me and my memory is not spectacular, so maybe it's just the same info recycled in a different format?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
Seriously, though, where can one buy these in the States? Been looking everywhere. No distros, no shops, and not even any US-based online sellers that I've been able to find.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
i don't know that you can unless your local store ordered them from wah wah. if you're serious about buying them, i would recommend buying them from norman records in the UK. they were great and a human answered my emails!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
Noted. It's just, you know...shipping. Brutal.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Oh, I know! But if you want to receive the records, you have to pay to have someone carry them across the ocean.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
I just feel like some joint getting wholesale prices (as such) would be selling these for like 35 USD as opposed to 45 USD. I shouldn't really be allowing myself to afford either of those prices, so $10 goes a pretty long way. Of course, that would-be store doesn't seem to exist, so here we are. Thanks for the advice, re: Norman Gonna feel so guilty, but it's gonna feel so good finally to hear the b-side of that Yun single after all these fucking years. I've never once found a copy!
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
Yeah it's gonna sting, but unless you enjoy making phone calls that lead nowhere and general disappointment, ordering from a source that you 100% know will deliver is better. Esp if you have been waiting that long! Geez.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link
as far as Hosianna Mantra goes, there isn't even a copy on Discogs. just get it from Norman, it'll be gone son.
― sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
SOON
ha, you got all sassy for a second there
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Ha. There were several copies on Discogs, last week. The cheapest one, of course, didn't include the 7".
― winnebago taco, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
np: my first ever hearing of Seligpreisung (the Fichelscher interview reminded me I didn't have it)
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
I really want that one.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
It's just the digital DL from emusic, not the vinyl, to be clear. Did not expect the singing!
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
it's the only one where florian sings! i think it's a nice change of pace. total cymbal mania too iirc.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
The spv bonus track is, of course, another arrangement of florians Agnus Dei melody aka kaspar hauser ditty. I feel every reissue has one!
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
cantare cantare cantare plod plod plod plod.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off. It's always struck me as the strangest passage; it doesn't seem deliberate, more like a bad improv moment, and yet Danny overdubbed himself twice in the same awkward manner so...?
Also, I think we can all agree 1jaeger is the most hi-fi of the classic PV records, no?
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
man I need to get decent CD reissues of the rest of the first 10 records or so (I have the first two on vinyl now), any ideas as to which ones I should seek out? I note upthread that dodgy vinyl-ripped Italian CDs were mentioned, don't want those.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
I prefer the Spalax CDs to the SPV reissues in some cases, very strongly so with Letzte Tage, somewhat so with Herz aus Glas. I haven't heard the SPV Einsjaeger to compare but the Spalax sounds fantastic. SPV Bruder des Schattens sounds great, so does SPV Hohelied. SPV Nosferatu sounds a little distorted to me but I only have a few tracks of the spalax to compare. SPV Sei Still... sounds okay to me, haven't heard the Spalax but I don't think that is a very well recorded album to begin with, so. I remember the celestial harmonies CD of the Pharaohs sounding good.
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
einsjäger is my fave pv
i heard das hoheleid salamos for the first time yesterday — so gorgeous
― clouds, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
thanx Jon! xp
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
The SPV Pharaohs is a little distorted, too. The Einsjaeger sounds good, as I recall, but I haven't really put it on in a while. As for Letzte Tage, Letzte Naechte, I've never heard a release that didn't kinda sound like shit; still the "Haram Dei Ra" SPV bonus track with Florian singing was worth the price of admission, for me.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off.
i relistened to that part with this comment in mind and i think he's trying to create a windup type feeling? like this isn't itthis isn't it
BOOM CRASH this is it
but i dunno. i love that part!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
also the LT-LN Spalax cd that i have sounds ok to me but it's also the only one i've heardif that ever gets reissued i'm going to go crazy and buy three
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
It is truly strange and challenging to me to contextualize.
IDK like a lot of Vuh this record is about searching and questing and this passage perhaps evokes the stumbling that takes place along the way...
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
The Aguire soundtrack is really amazing. I just love how it sounds. I got a feeling its going to become one of my favorite ambient records, it just has a great tone.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
More likely the result of trying to record a rock song with two people, one on piano and one on drums, not your usual method by any means. There are a few tracks where the piano and drums go slightly out of time or, for instance, the end of "Letzte Tage", where there's a drum fill that's out of synch...
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:25 (ten years ago) link
^^^tom d you have been neglecting your breathing exercises haven't you >:[
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
So after her career with Popol Vuh, Djong Yun seems to have ended up in North Korea, or at least she was there eight years ago. (Brief thread on her father Isang Yun here.) Has she ever been interviewed about her life? I'm really curious – starting with how someone who could sing like that could just stop.
― with hidden noise, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
Been a huge PV fan for years but only just discovered the Gila connection this week. Mind-boggling.
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
Wow. I knew none of those things, re: Yun. Thanks for posting that interview.
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
her father is isang yun? whoa!
― clouds, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
wow, that's intriguingi wonder what she does all day?! she lives in pyongyang?!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Reissues are in at Fuestron, btw. Or they were, a few days ago.
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
^^^ was just about to post this when i saw the update.fusetron v reliable ime.
― ian, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
i missed out on the reissues at Wall of Sound, got there a few days too late :(
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
sorry, that was me!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
all this djong yun stuff is news to me - wow!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
god help me I just bought three more of those reissues from Fusetron
thanks, I think.
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
prediction: you won't regret it
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 November 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah, popol vuh are pretty much The Best Band Ever, so there is no worry. you will be having a great time.
― ian, Thursday, 21 November 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
I know, huh? Somehow I missed this band amidst all my years of exploring exactly this kinda sound, I always just thought of them as a Herzog soundtrack band. Never realized all the connections with ADII etc. By the way thanks to Tom D (I think, yeah?) for his excellent overview at the beginning of the thread.
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link
― ian, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:00 PM
having a great time with side 1 of Hosianna Mantra right now, god damn
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
how to live
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
i mail-ordered the hosianna mantra reissue but it hasn't arrived here yet. gorgeous album though.
― lime pickle (get bent), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
I keep wanting to buy the Herzog box but find myself unable to pull the trigger. I love Aguirre - all time top ten - but I already own it on CD. The only other Popol Vuh I listen to a lot is Hosianna Mantra, if that gives you an idea of what version of Florian's wild circus I most enjoy. I don't know the other four soundtracks included in the box and I understand that one of them - Nosferatu, maybe? - features very little Popol Vuh. I also hear the book is not really any great shakes. Anyway, should I buy this?
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
herz au glas/heart of glass is top 3 PV albums for me -- at least do yourself the favor of hearing/getting that!!nosferatu is awesomethe only one in there that i'm not in love with is cobra verde, but it's cool in its own right even if it doesn't have the PV feel
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
surface noise on Seligpreisung side 2 :( just the first song or two, but still. gonna clean the LP and try it again.
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
IDK if Bruder des Schattens is included in the Herzog box -- it is the discarded score for Nosferatu and v different to the Nosferatu PV LP -- but IMO Bruder des Schattens and Herz aus Glas are the best PV Herzogs by far. And v v different to each other!
― yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
good cause I just bought them :) I think I got one of your SPV/Spalax recommendations mixed up, but what the hell.
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
yeah Herz Aus Glas has some of the best music ever
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
lololol the guy from the store just called mei thanked him for calling and told him that i just bought them from norman recordshe said that was the right thing to have done and i was like yeah i knowha
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
my hosianna mantra FINALLY shipped this weekend. should arrive tomorrow.
― sext of light (get bent), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link
imo popol vuh is sort of terrible
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link
^^^ noize card REVOKED
― ian, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
Revoked and -5 for using a hedge.
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
Two hedges!
nah from like 1974 on it's just the grateful dead or santana circa "lotus" but only the solos + pompous interludes not the groovy parts, minus drugs
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
i could not disagree more but i respect your right to miss out on some top notch noodling
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
allow in den gärten pharaos, maybe hosianna mantra, can't stand einsburger und siebensburger or seligspreisung or much of the stuff after that
except, i suppose, some of the herzog soundtrack stuff is okay too
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
nosferatu is really boring, post-that is especially dire, check out "sei still wisse ich bin" if you don't believe
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link
no way, i have that album in my stupid cd wallet that i keep in the car and i never take it out! it's so soothing and singing along is fun too. i like the vocal stuff and i'm pretty happy with their catalogue through agape agape. after that it gets spotty, but there's not much after that.
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
nah from like 1974 on it's just the grateful dead or santana circa "lotus" but only the solos + pompous interludes not the groovy parts, minus drugssounds so good bring it on
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
yeah i was gonna say
does Norman still have copies of these Wah Wah reissues? it is Wah Wah, right?
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
'bring it on' otm
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
LOL
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 08:54 (ten years ago) link
... if there's an opposite of a doppelganger I've just discovered mine
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 08:55 (ten years ago) link
my copy of Seligspreisung responded well to cleaning, noise is gone.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
Even the lowest priced copies of the reissues on Discogs will total almost $50 to the US w/ shipping. Bummer.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
you could order the ones that just arrived at my store. http://www.reckless.com/index.php?keywords=popol+vuh&format=&cond=&store=&is_search=true&srch=Search
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
imo popol vuh is sort of terrible― the late great, Monday, December 30, 2013 9:19 PM
ya but u like high contrast :[
― am0n, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
mambo - I'm on it. Stand by
btw how the hell haven't we had a POLLpol Vuh thread? If no one starts one, I will.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
Seriously mambo, if you have limited quantities please hold Seligpreusung, Hosianna and Einsjager for me if you can. I'll order this week...
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
lol @ "mambo" -- it's not my store like i work there, just my go-to local store -- you can order the records via their website i think or you could call the location if you are super concerned. not sure if they're open tomorrow or not. best of luck!
i have never considered polling PV because i don't want to be forced to choose.
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
I'm always torn about whether to explain the "show username" preference to people who obviously have it turned off and/or are unaware
but hey JD I like yr taste in music so what the hell
― sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
ha! Thanks. I can see the username, I just like writing 'mambo' ;)
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
Weird use of PV: Ah! in "Sightseers"
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I'd probably vote either Aguirre or Hosianna Mantra, but there are so many great ones.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link
did this get posted?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Popol-Vuh-8-CD-Promo-Box-CDep-Japan-Mini-LP-New-tangerine-dream-klaus-schulze-Z-/281224656941?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item417a4bb82d
― the late great, Thursday, 23 January 2014 05:52 (ten years ago) link
Those are the same remasters as the SPV by the way. I have a few.
― Call the Cops, Friday, 24 January 2014 09:34 (ten years ago) link
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whenever you're ready, i'll have a lot of free time coming up this summer!
also -- is this real? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdwUL10mMu4
― we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 14 February 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
What's worth tracking down from the compilations? How much is there that didn't end up on the albums (or bonus tracks on the SPV releases)? This makes it sound like what's on Gesang der Gesänge isn't the same as the originals – is that true? Are there other things like that? Is Sing, for Song Drives Away the Wolves (also remixed, but not by Fricke) terrible?
― with hidden noise, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link
I can't help you there, but i was looking at popol vuh compilations yesterday and this sleeve is pretty badass: http://www.thewaxfactor.com/images/popv.jpeg
― brimstead, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link
I used to know the answer to that question re Sing, For Song... but it's gone now. Milan is a weird record label.
― grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link
Ben Wheatley's black-hearted screwball comedy pastorale The Sightseers (2012), which I watched this weekend on NF streaming, makes wonderful use of "Ah!" from Hosianna Mantra.
(Alongside some Harmonia, Roedelius, and Neu).
Good film on its own terms and well worth watching, I should also say. Can't wait to see his A Field In England.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
I picked up the new SPV reissues of Aguirre and Einsjager today (for a reasonable $10 each at Newbury Comics); so, looks like I can ditch my Spalax copies.Don't hear much difference in sound if they were remastered (doubt it), but the packaging at least is way superior to Spalax (plus, it's nice to have Digipaks rather than standard jewel case).Can't wait for them to do Letzte Tage - Letzte Naechte and the others...
― Joe (Joe), Friday, June 18, 2004 6:26 PM (9 years ago)
... and, of course, the Spalax editions are now oop and rare w/different bonus tracks...
― KrafTwerk (sleeve), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
As I've said before, hold on to Spalax versions if you've got em. Some of the SPV are inferior in sound quality.
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
have there been any interviews/anything written at all about fichelscher recently, like after that thing that's up on youtube? if so, will someone point me to them? make photocopies and messenger-pigeon them to me? he seemed pretty lively in that interview and i know he must be up to something and i would like to know what it is.
― La Lechera, Sunday, 6 July 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
nothing? does anyone know what he's doing these days?
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
why doesn't anyone want to write about him? also i would like to strongly recommend the soundtrack for A Field in England for PV fans. It's both light and heavy, super good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW39fmmQEmc
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
If no one is writing about Danny somebody should at least interview Ben Wheatley about kosmische musik.
― Neil Sekada (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
i'm within inches of asking the dude who posted the youtube interview whether or not there's more or how it happened or w/emaybe i'll watch it again to make sure those are not stupid questions
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I assume you have df google alerted to within an inch of his life and none of them traps have sprung
― Neil Sekada (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
my google alerts have not yielded the fruit i am looking forthey hardly ever do tbh!
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
david stubbs on pv/herzog for those what missed it:http://thequietus.com/articles/16110-herzog-popol-vuh-overview
― john wahey (NickB), Friday, 29 August 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
man everyone focuses on fricke and herzogthx for posting!
i found at least one popul in there though :-/Fricke and Vuh did further great work on Heart Of Glass (1976), in which guitarist Danny’s Fichelscher’s playing comes to the fore - by this point, Popul Vuh were more conventionally “rock”, though as Klaus Schulze observed, Fricke’s compositions still followed “electronic patterns” in their structures.
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 29 August 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
i listened to gila's "bury my heart at wounded knee" mostly for the fichelscher connection -- pretty good!
― clouds, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
ooh love that one!!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 29 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
while we were at my mom's house we watched a nature docu on cable in the Globe Trekkers series-- the episode was called Planet of the Apes and during the section on Orangutans there was this processional acoustic guitar stuff that gave me a really nice elevated Vuh-ish feeling. The episode had like 10 composers listed though, no chance I'll ever track that cue down.
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Friday, 29 August 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
1973 soundboard!
http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/
― sleeve, Sunday, 7 September 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
niiiiice! thanks!
― tylerw, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
actually it might be a good audience recording, there is a lot of accompanying info
― sleeve, Sunday, 7 September 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
this is great! yeah hazy sound is more likely an audience recording (maybe there wasn't even really a "soundboard" per se) but the haziness is nice.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
i saw this yesterday and today i remembered to click on it and it's asking me to "click here for downloader" and i feel like i am 500 years old pls send help bc i want to hear this!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
i thought i posted that boot for y'all upthread. maybe it was another one
― am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
i have a couple live boots, one is "1973 baumberg kirche germany" and the other is from 1976 with some live roberto cacciapaglia(!)― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:46 AM (4 years ago)
― am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
whoops! yeah this is the church one
it's in FLAC if that makes a difference to anyone
― sleeve, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
i can put the 76 one up again if anyone needs it
― am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
when i first clicked on it there was a "use sendspace downloader" box that i had to uncheck. i can't see the checkbox anymore though.
― example (crüt), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
xp i'd like to hear that!
Yes pls!!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
LL just be sure to uncheck the 'use sendspace downloader' box. And then on the next screen click the 'download from sendspace' thing and not the fake generic download thing.
I'm intrigued by the annotated discography included in this package! It's over 100 pgs long!
― Rand McNulty (Jon Lewis), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link
now it says service temp unavailable?
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
I'll see what's up later this afternoon LL, I can always mail you a CD if it comes to that
Sendspace maxes out at 25 downloads iirc, I had to use it b/c of file size
― sleeve, Monday, 8 September 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
hahaok :)thank you
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
non-flac version of 1973 baumberg kirche germanyhttp://www13.zippyshare.com/v/33870044/file.html
1976 milan - popol vuh / roberto cacciapagliahttp://www8.zippyshare.com/v/90269463/file.html
― am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
thx sleeve and am0n
― Brad C., Monday, 8 September 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
thank you!! i can't wait to hear them. also? the discography pdf?! wow. awesome.
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
hmm seems like it's working now?
feel free to webmail me via ILX if there are still issues
― sleeve, Monday, 8 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
thnkx amon, fricke/cacciapaglia a dream pairing
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah i didn't have that pdf so grab sleeves version if you can
― am0n, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
I downloaded it too in case anyone needs it and it unable to get it via the Sendspace thingy
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
but I have not listened to it yet, so shame on me
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
i'm finally listening to the live in 1973 recording and it's totally giving me the weirds, like i have never heard these songs sounding like they were produced by actual human beings before and now here they areagnus dei and all!wowthanks so much for sharing!!
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
I haven't heard this recording, downloading now, but I know what you mean about "actual humans" making this stuff... I can almost never make out the piano in all those PV albums even though it is always there. I can barely tell what's going on at all, except that it's impossibly beautiful, ha. Mr. Fricke's oeuvre is surely some of the most psychedelic music ever in the mind-manifesting sense, colorful, hazey, contradictory and simultaneously pretty/scary sounding. Countless layers of impenetrable sound. And so alive -- it breathes. It sounds just plain otherworldy. The sonic equivalent of the unreal and idealized dream-scape backgrounds one finds in Leonardo da Vinci paintings. Every once in a while I try to do a close study of this stuff and I never get anywhere with it, its essence just eludes me completely!!! Which is wonderful.
I feel like Herzog almost completely misuses the stuff, too. The music is usually just plain too strong to serve images/stories properly. It overpowers them.
― liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link
I can almost never make out the piano in all those PV albums even though it is always there
It isn't always there!
― FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link
Well, maybe that explains why I can't find it!
― liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
It is mostly there, no? Except for the modular synth, organ and the tape-loop mellotronish thing you hear in the early work.
― liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
On the contrary, it progressively disappears as the albums get more guitar based (I don't think there's any on "Coeur de Verre"), then comes back when they get more acoustic. Some songs the piano is there at the beginning and then fades out - almost as if to show how it was composed.
― FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
Okay, thanks. That makes sense. I always got the impression it was at the bottom of the mix somewhere as the live take and then smothered with overdubs.
― liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
That's probably true too
― FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
was looking up some information about (what i thought was) the melltron in "aguirre", found this interesting article
― the all man brothers (clouds), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
interesting!
1) 'For every key on the keyboard he had made a tape of that note which had been sung by a real choir. It wasn't sampled or anything.' Chris adds: 'He devised a system where he took about 150 matches and stuck them in the parts of the keyboard that didn't work. He painted these with different colours so he knew which keys he could play. It was the first such instrument in the world and Florian Fricke of Popol Vuh used it for his soundtrack music to [Werner] Herzog's Aguirre: Wrath Of God. It's in a museum now." which museum?! where?
2) <3 the phrase "this Haboob project"
3) i just got my hands on a reissue (?) of that Herzog interview book and am seriously looking forward to any more PV info I can get out of it. My guess is that there's not much but throw me in the briar patch and make me read a book about Herzog, boohoo.
― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
i just like saying it -- HABOOB
wouldn't mind hearing their album
― the all man brothers (clouds), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
you're telling me!
For the New Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (www.gepr.net/) David Wayne gives the following hint:
"Interesting. The major point of interest for most progressive fans is Haboob's very significant connections with Amon Düül 2. The LP features psychedelic cover art by Amon Düül 2 keyboardist Falk U. Rogner, and it was produced by Amon Düül 2 saxophonist / producer Olaf Kübler. Jimmy Johnson has numerous studio credits, but is perhaps best known in prog-rock circles for his collaboration with Amon Düül 2 on Wolf City and Dance of the Lemmings (along with Phallus Dei, the band's best work, in my opinion). As you'd expect, Johnson's effects-laden organ and Mellotron (here called "choir-organ") are quite prominent. Unfortunately, Johnson's compositions aren't nearly as distinguished - the LP is comprised of a free improvisation (during which Green cuts loose to display some considerable jazz chops), a very Hendrix-inspired blues, and some pretty straightforward psychedelic soul - funk - rock pieces. The end result is sort of like a collaboration between Amon Düül 2 and early Funkadelic, or the Chambers Brothers (or perhaps even Sly Stone), minus the extended guitar explorations. The vocals, guitars and keyboards are heavily processed throughout - in fact the singing is pretty much buried beneath multiple layers of effects and electronic weirdness. The lyrics are only occasionally understandable. Despite the relative simplicity of the music, it has a lot of appeal - and I would urge those of you who are interested in a fusion of Euro-psychedelia with US soul and funk to seek this one out."
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
was wrong upthread to assume it was an orchestron! the world, it's so big.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link
I've heard the Haboob album and sought out every recording Jimmy Jackson is credited with appearing on... and there's next to no Choir Organ on any of them... Embryo, Kllaus Doldinger and, most disappointingly of all considering it's his album, Haboob. So best sticking to Amon Duul II, esp. Wolf City.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link
is that instrument making the sounds that I always thought were "just" massed backing vocals in "Surrounded By The Stars"?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link
Yes, that's it. Over the years I'd concluded the 'Choir Organ' was just a vaguely poetic name for a mellotron BUT I did read somewhere that, on ADII's "Tanz der Lemminge", there's a passage where a chord is held for 30 seconds (or thereabouts) and that it's not possible to hold a note for that long on a mellotron (apparently... I'm no expert). So, who knows? I do know that it is a fucking great noise and that the guys (and gal) in ADII obv. thought so as they slathered it all over their recordings, 1971-72.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of which, I'm not sure what the keyboard is at the end of "Sleepwalkers' Timeless Bridge" on "Wolf City", I assumed that was the Choir Organ too but whatever it is it's mindblowing.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link
Yes that's like my favorite keyboard sound ever. I just want that track isolated and looped FOREVER.
― Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link
the higher registers of the choir-organ sound on the aguirre tracks are chilling
― the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
i was just thinking i should explore embryo. what's the deal with their mal waldron connection?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 05:51 (nine years ago) link
They did a cover version of a composition of his ("Call") on their first (least jazz, most rock) album, then did it again later on another album, this time with Waldron playing on the track. I assume Waldron was living in Germany (or at least Europe) at the time? Actually I think Christian Burchard (the main guy in Embryo) played with Waldron pre-Embryo. I'm not much of a jazz rock fan but I like some of their stuff.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link
first haboob album is on youtube. choir organ makes an entrance about 90 seconds into the first track. I'm only three minutes in, and yeah this record's completely messed up.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
in a good way?
― the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
definitely for me. typical krautrock freakouts & processing overkill, but coming more from R&B / soul than rock. not lifechanging but if you're into both AD2 and Funkadelic.
the choir organ is a mystery!
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link
oh, i'm mad on ADII at the moment; can't get enough of yeti and wolf city.
― the all man brothers (clouds), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
high five
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:37 (nine years ago) link
Soul Jazz to release collection of Popol Vuh rarities
http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=27777
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 11:27 (nine years ago) link
Sweet.
― Peas Be Upon Ham (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:05 (nine years ago) link
Ooh!! Excited!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link
Nice! Haven't seen that doc before, sounds heavy.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
this will warrant the purchase of a new glass pipe
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
Whoa. God damn. This is terrific news!
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
super surprised + excited by this!
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
will buy
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
coolness. i have those spirit of peace tracks (unrelated to the album of that name) appended to my cd copy of hosianna mantra, would anyone know what era they're from? cause no details in cd booklet.
― no lime tangier, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
in other news, Nosferatu 2-LP reissue via Wah Wah in August my PV google alert has finally paid off (a little bit) http://exclaim.ca/Music/article/popol_vuhs_nosferatu_gets_deluxe_vinyl_reissue
that kailash/spirit of peace thing is released next week right?
― groundless round (La Lechera), Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
That's what I heard, but there's been very little info that I've seen. I think it's finally up on Soul Jazz's page as a pre-order, but I was hoping some US distros would be carrying it.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link
has this been mentioned? oh, yes, 2 months ago. appears to be out now.
http://boomkat.com/downloads/1215604-popol-vuh-soul-jazz-records-presents-popol-vuh-kailash-pilgrimage-to-the-throne-of-gods-piano-recordings
― koogs, Monday, 16 March 2015 11:08 (nine years ago) link
is this normal? for two reissue labels to both release dueling versions of the same title? http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3336124/waxwork-announces-definitive-vinyl-release-nosferatu-vampyre/
Just a few days ago, we reported that Wah Wah Records was working on a remastered vinyl soundtrack to the 1979 German art-house vampire film Nosferatu The Vampyre, which was directed by Werner Herzog. Now official word has come down that Waxwork Records is also creating their own definitive release of the soundtrack and this one sounds like the ultimate edition for collectors.
Waxwork states that they have been, “…working with Florian Fricke’s (Popol Vuh’s founder) family for many months to create a definitive LP release of the score,” and that, “…it’s shaping up to be an incredible release and we are beyond excited, kinda in shock, that it is happening.”
Waxwork also tells us that this will be the first of many Herzog/Popol Vuh collaborations that will be coming to vinyl. While no specific details have been released, we’re told that details announced in the near future.
Waxwork’s edition will be an expanded double LP version with artwork by Jessica Seamans of LandLand. The album drops on April 17th and the street date is in May 25th. A full track list can be seen below.
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:01 (nine years ago) link
haha, as if popol vuh's catalogue isn't confusing enough. "expanded" sounds like the one I want to get though.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
they're both expanded!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
i am excited that they're promising morei want LT-LN and i want daniel fichelscher to show up in my google alerts
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
alive and well and ready to give me some pointers
the Solaris soundtrack did a similar thing last year.
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/772562-edward-artemiev-solaris-original-soundtrackhttp://boomkat.com/vinyl/803396-eduard-artemiev-solaris-original-soundtrack-superior-viaduct-edition
there was also a third, on the same label as the first, with a different focus
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/787678-edward-artemiev-solaris-music-from-the-motion-picture
― koogs, Monday, 16 March 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
ha that foreshadows some classic popol/popul spelling issues
― groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Spent a while trying to find definitive 'Stalker' sdtrk, to no avail.
― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
review of the new thing over on pfork: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20242-kailash/gotta get this
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
so what's the deal with Waxwork? Good sound quality/pressing quality? Their Phase IV release is vinyl and soundcloud only, apparently, which gives me a sadness-- I'd like to pay money for a high quality MP3 version instead of being stuck with the low bitrate version I had to use a plugin to download off soundcloud.
― a date with density (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 March 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
The dueling Nosferatus remind me of the separate reissues of HNAS's Im Schatten Der Möhre that both appeared in 2002. I picked up Heemann's Streamline edition too early and missed out on the bonus tracks on the Dom version. Meh.
― doug watson, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
haha ILXmail me if you want that, I snapped them all up
― sleeve, Monday, 16 March 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
the year of the vuh is upon us
http://exclaim.ca/Music/article/popol_vuh_treated_to_new_batch_of_vinyl_reissues
― groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link
my first wish listed above has been grantedaleluia!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
kind of excited about these reissues, but I fear they will cost like $37 each
― Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
aw come on, those Wah Wah LPs were only like $28 ;)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
at least this time i can avoid making 1000 phone calls to the record store about itthat's something
― groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
happy vuh year
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
i see what vuh did there
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
been into agape agape and sei still wisse ich bin quite a bit lately -- the versions i have downloaded of both sound like cassette tape rips and the wobbly sound adds to the overall weird occult hieratic recorded-in-an-enormous-cave-ness
― dudem, (clouds), Sunday, 29 March 2015 08:22 (nine years ago) link
I've never found his and Enzo Franchini's A Sacred Homage to Florian Fricket, but Valerio Cosi's latest is pretty easy to find and to hear. Hit or miss, I think. But pretty novel.
http://valeriocosi.bandcamp.com/album/plays-popol-vuh
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
Fricke*
Don't worry I think we know who you meant!
― Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
For years and years and years I was looking for the Djong Yun "Du sollst lieben"/"Ave Maria" single. Thanks to that Wah Wah reissue of Hosianna Mantra, I finally got the chance to hear "Du sollst lieben." Maybe not as good to hear it as it had been to imagine hearing it, but I'm a better and more complete person for finally seeing what was up. Well, I still periodically look around to see if any OGs show up. Before the reissue, I can't even imagine how much money one would've been. To this day, I've never found one. And I didn't know, until today, that this existed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Popol-Vuh-Djong-Yun-Ave-Maria-CDep-Japan-Mini-LP-cd-florian-flicke-tangerine-Q-/371285535547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567257ab3b
That is a CD version of the single. One of the Japanese mini-LP deals. Stunned to find it. Two songs. $110. In 2015. The repress is easily found. I guess I'm just really glad I never had to spring for the 7" by selling a few of my internal organs. Fuck.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 19 April 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
Is there some site that comprehensively cross-references Popol Vuh tracks? Some of the stuff on the second disc of Kailash sounds really familiar, but I can't remember where I've heard it before. There was a previously released version of "The Garden Morya" (the one with chanting) where a terrible beat comes in (maybe on City Raga?) – is this raw material that was later remixed by Guido Hieronymous?
Also confused about all the versions of "Spirit of Peace" – the version on the Celestial Harmonies In the Gardens of the Pharao is two minutes longer than the Kailash version.
― with hidden noise, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 00:27 (eight years ago) link
There are what sound like slowed down renditions of "Aguirre" on disc 2
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link
finally got the kailash thing on soul jazz -- totally great. only bummer is the diginoise that seems to be happening on the first disc's mahayana ... is that just the recording? or is it some flaw... too bad, totally lovely track otherwise. haven't watched the DVD yet!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
i need to buy that!! i've been slacking on my PV fanship
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
yeah i'm glad i shelled out for it... sending me on a popol vuh bender now.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJNnKdzgW1I
I got to walk up this very trail last week! I had my headphones, but I forgot to load up Aguirre before I left so I had to settle for Seligpreisung.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
whoa that must've been awesome! pics? i think that is my favorite scene in any movie.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
Unbearably dreamy, what a life!!
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/vfQ79vm.jpg
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
that's so great. I really wanted to see the cloud forest side of Peru when I was there, but never had time.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
so nice!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
From the left, from the entrance of Machu Picchu with Huayna Picchu peeking out of the clouds, then just past the Huayna entrance gate (match with around the 2:00 mark of that video), and finally about 1/3-1/2 way up the trail looking down on Machu Picchu. I ascended in a very dreamy state. To make it to the Huayna Picchu gate by seven am, you have to wake up around four in the morning. It was just like in the movie, all wreathed in roiling mists and lush foliage. Just getting there, even with the trains and buses, is physically taxing enough to strip away a lot of your psyche. The ascent is ~1,000 feet in one mile of distance, from about 7,900ft up to 8,900ft. I listened to music all the way up.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
are you on the Inca Trail? sure sounds like it!
what I noticed there was how clear the sounds are from the valley below
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
Nah, one of my traveling companions has a bad back and wasn't up for the Inca Trail. We took the train from Cusco into Aguas Calientes. The Irish pub in Cusco had Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo posters in it!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
Sounds awesome. I'd be happy to give you more Sacred Valley travel tips over here:
TITTW sleeve goes to Peru
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
oh hey, that was your thread! unfortunately I'm back home in Texas now, but I read through that with great interest the other night : )
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link
Loving this revive
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
yeah, you guys got me daydreaming
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 10:51 (eight years ago) link
lolhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHK8oWVUkAAijKD.jpg
― tylerw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
what exactly is happening in that photo? is that their recording studio?
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link
heh heh, it's a picture of Can
― tylerw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
ooh great news
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link
haha that's what i thoughtcmon people
― Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link
some light in the attic intern is getting his ass handed to him right now!!!but seriously it is good news - if they're distro-ing, the vuh reissues might be easier to find.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link
looks like they brought a beehive to the practice space
― clouds, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link
Crazy German longhairs all look the same, amirite?
― Willibald Pirckheimers Briefwechsel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link
Contact mic on an apiary, that's an old stockhausen trick cmon guys. Zzzzzzzzzzz
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link
Foreground: a shirtless, ripped Djong Yun
― Jim Gillette's unused octave (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link
to be fair, that pic does come up if you GIS Popol Vuh Band, and it is misattributed in the link as being Can
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link
https://mousique.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/de-krautrock-archieven/
― tylerw, Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:37 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i THOUGHT that was damo, but it's kind of small on my monitor
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
i saw that popul vuh werner herzog soundtracks box set for cheap a few years ago and i really regret not snapping it up
shit makes me feel immortal
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:36 (eight years ago) link
i was just googling around to see when/if that big batch of reissues was released yet and i found this, which sounds almost exactly like "in deine hande" from LT-LNwhat other greek music sounds like this??! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSXxrLcSV4
(for comparison) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko-sShP-TA4
― La Lechera, Monday, 7 September 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link
Thank you for Nikos Xylouris! Listening to Youtubes now.
Also: "Psaronikos is a nickname as it is customary for people in Anogeia to have. His grandfather was Psarantonis. His grandfather kept company with a group of five or six men who stole from the Turks. As he was the fastest runner in the group, when they met with Turks he was running very fast and he could catch all of them as if they were fish. So, first he was given the name Fishturk (Greek: 'Ψαρότουρκος') and then the nickname Psarantonis. That is how all family male members after him were nicknamed Psaronikos, Psarogiorgis, Psarantonis etc."
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Monday, 7 September 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link
(xp) I see what you mean!
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 7 September 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link
ok two things:
1) the video interview with d fichelscher has been removed from youtube afaict; that was the closest i had gotten to knowing that he was still alive and well. my google alerts for him haven't produced much beyond news of upcoming reissues. does anyone know how to confirm that he is alive and well? i feel like this thread is more of a global hub of PV fans than i'm likely to find elsewhere, so why not ask.
2) what's up with those reissues anyway? waxworks was all excited about them, but i haven't seen anything since. i checked last week and just that instagram post came up. am i missing something? LT-LN is about to turn 40 next year :)
― La Lechera, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
Hasn't he been playing with Amon Duul II recently? He's mentioned here anyway : http://www.amonduul.de/main.htmlWARNING website is Flash hell that will start playing music when it loads
― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 19 September 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
ok well that's good newsi guess they only play european festivals?also that is truly a hellish website
― La Lechera, Saturday, 19 September 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
Yes, panic over, he seems to be playing with the current line-up...
https://gerhardemmerkunst.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/amon-dc3bcc3bcl-ii-milla-mc3bcnchen-2015-06-10-15.jpg
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 September 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
months ago i preordered the wah wah reissue of nosferatu because 1) i couldn't resist and 2) there is bonus material that i don't have and it arrived today!! i am not into packaging but since i paid a zillion dollars for this, i'm glad that the posters (there are 2) are pretty cool (not just pics of the band, esp the ones i've seen a zillion times) and the LPs themselves are red
so excited!! no more weekly emails from phil at norman records about my order. i'll probably not miss deleting those too much but they continued to give me hope that the day would arrive when i could finally cradle my wampyr recordtoday!
― La Lechera, Monday, 28 September 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
looks like light in the attic is distro-ing the wah wah reissues, so they should be easier to get now? http://lightintheattic.net/releases?all_labels=false&label_list%5B%5D=176still pricey, but...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
thanks for the heads up!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
New reissues are all in at Fusetron, in case anybody was wondering. $31/32 for everything but the Nosferatu double, which is $45.
― winnebago taco, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:09 (eight years ago) link
i still wonder what daniel f is doing right now, like at various points in the day.
this was posted on fb today -- is it same as the bootleg that was posted here a while ago? I am not on the same computer and don't remember what was on the other one. anyway, a good day is one that has a popol vuh surprise in it
i think it sounds like the same recording though fwiw
https://youtu.be/Kyi2KHZKYIQ
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
FYI
This is a soundboard recording of a live performance in 1973, probably late summer or early fall, in the church in Baumberg in Germany (which accounts for the beautiful natural reverb).My guess is that this is just Daniel Fichelscher on guitar and Florian Fricke on keyboards and vocal (and may be the first recording of Fichelscher as a member of Popol Vuh - he would become co-partner with Fricke for all subsequent Popol Vuh albums. Vocalist Djong Yun did not sing here, because she was away in America at the time. Fricke's dissatisfaction with his vocals - heard here and on the studio album from 1973, "Seligpreisung" - would prompt him to later add another vocalist, Renate Knaup, whom he met through Fichelscher (both Fichelscher and Knaup had been members of Amon Duul II).
Tracklist: (all are extended versions of the following pieces from their 1973 album "Seligpreisung"):00:00 Weinen und Lachen04:55 Hungern und Dursten11:59 Hungern und Dursten (2nd take)17:48 Willig Arm20:47 Leid Klagen
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
yeah think that's the same thing (minus the interview that was on the mp3 download)...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
I wonder where this person got their Fichelscher info or if it's pure speculation
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
aw, I love the vocals on Seligpreisung!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
I feel like that album could be dubbed onto a Peanuts TV special and work really well.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
btw yes that is the same bootleg referenced earlier in the thread
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
as noted by JoeStork on another thread, there's a lot more Popol Vuh on Spotify now
― Brad C., Friday, 22 July 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
Florian, 1968.
https://www.deutsche-kinemathek.de/sites/deutsche-kinemathek.de/files/public/images/bildergalerien/08_200925_27_31_07.jpg
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
2 new reissues today! Agape-Agape (one of my favorites) and Spirit of Peace iirc (which I don't remember) I guess Light in the Attic is handling US distribution -- is there any reason I should not give them a small portion of money in exchange for this fine recording?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
I got the (green!) Cobra Verde soundtrack. It's nice but I'm not sure I need another version of Agnus Dei (j/k, i do)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
Always thought "Agape-Agape" suffered from lacklustre production, maybe this reissue will spruce it up a bit. "Spirit of Peace" is the last good one... no, hold on, "Cobra Verde" is after that and is good too.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
xps I have heard some second hand griping about LITA not paying people, but that wouldn't stop me from buying something on the label (at least not yet).
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
every reissue makes me hope that maybe this will bring Daniel Fichelscher out of the shadows. he's only 64?!?!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
and Djong Yun too for that matteris she still in North Korea?!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
She's in North Korea? Why?
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
I think she was taking care of family or something? I read she was in Pyongyang :(
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
Insane details of Djong Yun's father's life here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isang_Yun
Daniel Fichelscher's been playing with Amon Duul II again recently, no?
― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 May 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link
somehow really getting into this band after many years. and THANK YOU Dadaismus for the reviews upthread. I wish ILM was still like that
― Dominique, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link
Having gone no further than their first three albums, "Vuh" from In den Gärten Pharaos is the only track that truly awed me. Is any of their subsequent work similar to it?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link
just about everything past In den Gärten Pharaos sounds nothing like it.
― new noise, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link
xpnothing like it really -- they didn't find the sound they're known for until after that record. Blissful, psychedelic new age folk music? try the title track of Brüder Des Schattens for a good idea of their thing
― Dominique, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link
Hosianna Mantra didn't do it for me, but given my love of 1970's ECM I should probably keep going. As a side note, Florian Fricke was briefly part of the same jazz trio as then-double-bassist Manfred Eicher.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link
Now that is an interesting fact!
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 2 June 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Nr9ZCm8.png
Perhaps more suited to a Roy Montgomery thread, but here's a photo from atop Temple IV in Guatemala, where I listened to bits of Seligspreisung last week. Some Popul Vuh seemed appropriate since I was in the heart of Maya territory. Luckily it got cloudy and rainy while I was up there, because otherwise the punishing sun and heat do not make for an atmosphere conducive to listening to extended jams. Although the place itself is pretty overwhelming even without a soundtrack.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
You'd think I'd spell the band name right by now... Popol Vuh that is.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
how to live!!so beautiful
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
that sounds amazing
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link
well done
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 July 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
I'm glad it's of interest! I'd offer more cool pictures of my Popol Vuh tourism, but a day or so after I took this picture I accidentally dropped my phone in the sea, so this Instagram pic is all that remains.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
Poetic! Much as fricke threw his moog into the ocean after the 2nd album
You must now take all your photos acoustically
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
I thought he sold it to Klaus Schulze? Not very poetic, I know.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
Let history record that when I dived into the Caribbean to retrieve my phone, my hands searched the ocean floor in the midnight waters for an hour and twenty minutes, the phone sparking and popping while it played Schulze's "Moondawn" in its entirety, heard properly for the first time, although that is not what happened.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
What exactly is this thing? Looks like a greatest hits, but seems to be a unique recording. (Related also to this compilation, both titled in such a way as to be most impossible to find.) Seems to have been done (if Discogs can be believed) just before Guido Hieronymous came on board? How much other stuff is out there?
― with hidden noise, Monday, 2 October 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link
I always assumed it was a best of compiled by his son. If it’s NOT just a best of I’d like to know about it
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link
The first one looks like a straight compilation, judging by track timings, though I suppose they could be remixes. The second, may be retitled tracks, remixes, don't know tbh.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link
This is one of those bands, like Tangerine Dream, whose soundtracks are essential, and yet whose official soundtrack releases are inconsistent and/or incomplete. Right?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link
Kind of. Heart of Glass + Nosferatu would be hard to improve on as albums but they are far from being straightforward score releases. Aguirre is kind of just an album that happens to be named Aguirre with a couple things from the film and mostly other stuff. Fitzcarraldo is like a traditional late 70s early 80s ost pretty much. Some vuh from the movie and some diegetic music heard in the movie. I still don’t have cobra verde!
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
Heart of Glass is my favorite as an album
There's actually more music from Letzte Tage in the film than from the 'soundtrack album'.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link
Liner notes for 70s Progressives can be read here (the reliable populvuh.nl), which claim it was recorded in 1979. My confusion comes from the writeup at Discogs:
This CD comprises alternate recordings of Popol Vuh 1970s works. Although not exactly stated on the release, this material was recorded at Bavaria Studio, Munich, 1990 reuniting many old Popol Vuh members (but in a line-up that never actually existed before). Tracks 1, 3, 4 & 10 previously appeared on the Popol Vuh - Florian Fricke compilation. All the other tracks are previously unreleased.
If you look at the history (might need to be logged into Discogs to see that?), there's some back and forth about what this is. Maybe that's just Discogs people making things up? Not seeing an actual source for the idea that it was re-recorded.
― with hidden noise, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link
Weird. Are those the sessions at which some ofThe alt versions on Sing For Song Drives Away the Wolves were done?
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
Just wanted to let y'all know that Die Erde und Ich Sind Eins, which was teased an eternity ago, was finally reissued on Wah Wah. I never saw an official announcement and it doesn't seem to me like Wah Wah has an official online presence, anymore, so I have no idea when it actually dropped. But it's available both online and in stores. Or at Reckless in Chicago, anyway.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link
you don't say! which reckless location?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 October 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link
I saw one at the Milwaukee shop, but the webstore tells me that Broadway is also carrying. Was $35, so it might be cheaper to purchase online. Further digging suggests that Light in the Attic had copies in May, but that they're all long-gone. Ever since Kailash, they seem to have at least some hand in (or on, as it were) Vuh-related reissues.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
Comes with a 50-page Fricke manifesto of some kind! 500 copies pressed.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
I think LITA are just US distributors for Wah Wah? not totally sure
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
Comes with a 50-page Fricke manifesto of some kind! 500 copies pressed.whoa this is sort of worth the price! the other wah wah PV reissues all came with the same essays and poster, which was kind of disappointing. i have read those essays and seen those photos plenty of times now.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
I didn't know that, actually. I already had all of the SPV CDs and was pretty short on bread, at the time, so I only picked up a few of those. I assumed that each subsequent batch had a different set of liners or something.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
FYI it's in German:
Also includes the 50 page booklet 'Das Alphabet des Körpers' (in German) that Fricke wrote and relates closely to the release. It was not included in the original release and only received a very limited publication later by Florian Fricke's widow Bettina. This release also includes two inserts: firstly, a 12" x 12" sheet with liner notes by Dolf Mulder (in English) and three black & white photos; and secondly, a 12" x 24" one sided, high quality stiff paper insert with drawings & notes by Fricke relating to the album.
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
some pissed off Discogs reviews referencing that booklet, also covers w/o glue
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
At any rate, I just grabbed a copy off of Discogs for $25. Looking forward to reading as much as listening; should be a good chance to brush up on my shitty German skills. But I've been looking for a copy of this record for like twelve years (even the CD, which NEVER shows up, would've done), so I'm definitely looking forward to listening. My tiny-sounding mp3s are pretty well-worn, by now.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
At least I can work on translating the German. I'll never forget buying Ya Ho Wha 13's massive God and Hair box and not having any way to tackle the extensive and entirely Japanese liners. I survived, but it was kinda depressing.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
But I was fine with the (terrible) German verse which Roedelius's wife read during a performance, a few weeks ago. So at least I've got a chance!
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
damn I never knew that about the Ya Ho Wha box, that is disappointing
there's a great Vinyl On Demand box set (German Punk And Wave) with all-German liners, but the label at least put out a pdf translation
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
Well, this has probably got something to do with it. Some musical/singing/breathing therapy stuff.
http://www.popolvuh.nl/d/archafa1995
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
taco i was at that roedelius show too! i wonder if i already know you?!? i loled when he rhymed "nature" with "creature"
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 October 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
The German-language verse was just as silly. It was the equivalent of "I saw you on the train/And our eyes, they met/You've since been on my brain/Do you have a pet?" But I doubt we know one another. I think I know like three people irl who know who Roedelius is, and none of them were in attendance.
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 29 October 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link
But if you ever see some dude who looks like he's just dying to talk about the Vuh, by all means give him/me a shout!
― winnebago taco, Sunday, 29 October 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link
I was at Lands End National Park in San Francisco last weekend, where it was a beautiful sunny day and I listened to Einsjäger & Siebenjäger on my headphones amongst the cypress trees.
I guess it's not really from that album originally, but Wo Bist Du? is an all-time great rambling tune, it makes any straight path into a labyrinth that pleases and soothes a troubled mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bguDZdGj9gI
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link
you are a person who knows how to live, f hazel!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link
Wow, that is a great track. And it's not on my earlier CD issue of E&S (damn!) so I'll need to find a copy of the expanded remaster.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link
Wah Wah for the win there, nice of them to add those two tracks to the vinyl reissue
― sleeve, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
xp that track was originally released on their "Die Nacht Der Seele" album.
is the version that was added to E&S a different recording?
― new noise, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
haha, I was thinking "LL would approve of this choice" when I decided what to listen to! Last night I was lying on picnic bench in a state park in Arkansas looking up at the stars through towering pines and shivering, but I was listening to Music for the Age of Miracles by the Clientele. It wasn't a Popol Vuh moment.
As for Wo Bist Du? the bonus track on the E&S SPV CD (the one I have) is identical to the one on Die Nacht Der Seele, as far as I can tell. Why it ended up as a bonus track on E&S I cannot fathom.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 27 November 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
i was having religious / sacred kinds of feelings listening to hosianna mantra while driving through the mojave over the weekend. i think it just repeated 4-5 times because i couldn't think of anything else i wanted to listen to.
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link
that sounds dreamy
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 February 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link
See America by Popol Vuh!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link
The music wasn't very loud, the worst noise pollution came from the back of the hall where they were selling cans of beer - lots of popping, clanking and fizzing. Problem solved by moving nearer the front!
― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:52 (eight years ago)
Hahaha.
I went to this. Probably a very crappy idea to begin with but the 'bar' was just one of the cuntiest things possible in the circumstances. In the same (reverberant) room as we were supposed be quietly listening to this music (In Den Gärten Pharaos) the guy was literally tossing bottles into a bin of other bottles.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link
ha i was just reading this thread earlier today, been listening to a bunch of the 70s albums this week
― marcos, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
good move
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
has this been posted before? new to me: https://sanjindumisic.com/florian-fricke-1981-interview-by-sandy-robertson/
― tylerw, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
Great interview!
I love his explanation of the band's name:
"It describes the music," says Florian. "The good soul of the good person, the feeling. Like now people call themselves the B52s and you know what the music will be like".
Presumably he was thinking about Cold War bombers rather than beehive wigs
― Brad C., Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/KQjcriu.gif
my secret travelogue for popol vuh fans part 4: listening to Im Garten des Ruhe, a bonus track from Die Nacht der Seele, on the 148th-floor outside observation deck of the Burj Khalifa. we stayed late until everyone else left and lay along the glass looking at the city fade into unlit desert
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
best travelogue, never stop!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 10 June 2018 05:44 (five years ago) link
heard "aguirre 1" playing between sets at a show recentlyi looked around to see who else noticed and saw nothing :-/(this doesn't mean no one noticed, just that PV fans don't tend to emote publicly, lol)
this is the second time i've heard PV between sets at a show. last time was probably about 8 years ago.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
You mean no-one punched the air and went, "Well, awwllllriiiiight!!!"
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link
aside from me, no
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
ha i think i would have given a big smile. "aguirre!!"
― marcos, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
the correct reaction is to pull a plush toy monkey out of your bag, and then loudly recite the soliloquy at the end of Aguirre about how you're going to marry your daughter and found the purest dynasty the world has ever seen, then shout WHO IS WITH ME
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
the worst possible ending to that would be that it was not actually a song from Aguirre and was actually from Nosferatu and you have to crawl away and change your props real quick
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
Lol
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
now i am second guessing which track it was but seriously, i knew within a few notes WHO it was and that is what mattered to me
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
all of a sudden I can see this as DJT's next SOTU speech
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
i put on Einsjäger & Siebenjäger at the bookstore where i work this morning, my boss came in and asked what jam band it was - "the Dead?" - i told him it was a German guy who did the soundtracks for Werner Herzog's movies and he said "keep it up" lol.
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
lol yes my wife has also mistaken PV albums for the Dead
― sleeve, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
more than just one guy!! still active in my quest to get fichelscher the respect he deserves
i do see some upsetting similarities between klaus kinski & DJT now that i think about it
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
respect for the distinctive PV sound of the albums he was on, i meandjong yun tooi wonder if she is still in north korea?!!?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
I made a painting of Djong Yun once but it turned out so badly I threw it away. I must attempt again one day.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
Speaking of Daniel Fichelscher, is there actually any difference at all between Morgengruss on E&S and Moregengruss II on Aguirre?
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
idk -- i would have to listen to them side by side and am not prepared to do that atmreport back and tell us!
that's such a good song they put it on 2 albums just in case
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
Yes, the second has more, or different at least, (electric) lead guitar on it, it's not as good.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
it sounds to me like no, but all I did was sync them up and let them play, if the latter has an electric lead it might just be overpowering the former
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
the backing tracks seem identical tho
playing along with that song is one of life's small joys
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link
Der Ruf from Herz aus Glas is also great Fichelscher, would be OK with like a 29-minute version of it
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 05:35 (five years ago) link
the guitar tone make it sound like a song off the Real Ramona
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 05:37 (five years ago) link
Oh yeah herz aus glas could have every song extended to lp side length and I’d be happy
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
i still haven't been able to find that interview that used to be on youtube -- the one where fichelscher is basically talking to the camera and he tells the story of how he brought his bongos to a music festival as a teen and joined amon duul II. it was the closest i have come to learning more about the popol vuh history/sound/process than i have found anywhere else and i can't find it!
one thing that stuck with me was when he picked up his guitar and just started noodling a little -- that's when i realized that what i loved about PV was at least 50% (prob more) fichelscher.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
is that the one where he's shirtless and the interview pauses so he can go get cigarettes?
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
Yes, he's absolutely not what you might expect someone in Popol Vuh to be like, he's a kind of rock 'n' roll dude.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
I was telling someone about that DF interview / monologue recently and trawled back through this thread to find out when it first appeared. I think he must have taken it down himself? Dude needs to get a memoir out there IIRC.
Is he still playing with ADII?
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
last i heard he was still playing with ADII -- i have a google alert for him so i am aware of any developments and i can't say much has come through
i would like to meet/converse with him more than any other living person of that place/time (now that Jaki is gone :( ) would also enjoy a convo with irmin but i do have the can book so that's something
the info on fichelscher is so scanty -- i want him to know that there are people out here who care! so he can spill while he is still with us!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link
Where is he living? If I find myself in Berlin this Christmas I'll look for him
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 5 July 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link
he must live somewhere in europe -- i know ADII has toured around europe and played festivals and whatnot but i don't think they have made an appearance in the states/this continent that i am aware oflook him up! send him to me!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link
I'm sure he's not that old btw, I think he was a teenager when he joined ADII, so hopefully he'll be with us for a while yet.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 07:02 (five years ago) link
He started young:
http://www.popolvuh.nl/d/files/DF_15.jpg
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 07:06 (five years ago) link
listen folks no one lives forever and i have been on this quest for some time
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
How can that be Berlin? The grass is cut.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
why am I wasting my life in America sitting inside, wearing vests with shirts under them?
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
Actually I suppose that is the Englischer Garten in Munich as afaik Amon Düül II are still located there. The next gig is the Finkenbach festival on August, 10th, so if you really want to see Danny, you should go there.Finkenbach is also called the Woodstock in the Odenwald. It is about one hour by car South of Frankfurt/Main.http://www.finki-festival.de/finki_programm.html
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
gah! I'll be over there, but not until December probably. bet he'll be wearing a shirt then!
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
Crazy name, crazy guy.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
it looks like he has about 6 arms in that photo!
i can't zip on over to munich until i get my passport renewed and i doubt that is going to happen with such short notice (it's not)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
what other of their stuff sounds like this? anything in particular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDIzneIIfE
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
Well there's basically 18 minutes of that track on the second side of the "Spirit of Peace" album.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
love the sound of that
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
Also "Brüder des Schattens – Söhne des Lichts" and "Die Nacht der Seele" albums.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
also there's probably a lot of roy montgomery albums you would enjoy
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
i’ve dabbled in him but didnt find anything i really loved right off the bat like this. i like the syncopated guitar parts and the trance-like feel. i’m all ears for recommendations though!
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link
I think the music on side two of Spirit of Peace IS King Minos II
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 July 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
it definitely is- more layers and stuff obviously. love it
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 12 July 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link
Same track yes, if not the same recording, which is why putting it as a bonus track on "Einsjager" and calling it "King Minos II" makes no sense.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2018 07:48 (five years ago) link
https://boomkat.com/products/essential-collection-vol-1
new vinyl box. looks nice. 'Affenstunde' (1970), 'Hosianna Mantra' (1972), 'Einsjäger & Siebenjäger' (1974), 'Aguirre' (1976), 'Nosferatu' (1978) 2LP.
― koogs, Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link
ooh, tempted to splurge on that. wonder how many volumes there'll be?
― kolarov spring (NickB), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
weird selection!
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
is it a weird selection? not that I'm saying you're wrong but from a purely personal and subjective point of view Affenstunde' (1970), 'Hosianna Mantra' (1972), 'Einsjäger & Siebenjäger' (1974), 'Aguirre' (1976) are the classic PV albums
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:41 (five years ago) link
That is indeed personal and subjective.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:43 (five years ago) link
They’re all classic but those are a weird combo imo I guess they wanted a blend of PV styles in the box?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link
I think they managed that!
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
Definitely managed that
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
Does anyone know what the bonus tracks are. Also, I never previously knew there was a 2LP version of Nosferatu. How is that?
― stirmonster, Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:59 (five years ago) link
iirc the 2nd LP is "On The Way To A Little Way"?
https://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-NosferatuVampyre/release/7481847
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link
Bruder des Schattens is the rejected soundtrack and On the way... is the one that was actually used in the film iirc?
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:45 (five years ago) link
http://www.popolvuh.nl/d/files/df_46.jpg
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link
... not dead, please God.
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link
jesus, i hope not. i'm just here to express gratitude and commune with my fellow adherents.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link
Phew, what a relief. And what a guitar player!
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link
incredibly gifted player. been on a popol vuh marathon all day and his guitar parts in particular are making my spirit soar
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link
OMFG I have a google alert to prevent scares of this kind and received no alert about his passing so PHEW!!!!Amazing drummer as well. His sonic sensibility is so great imo.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 00:37 (four years ago) link
Incredible guitarist, all-time #1 musical sidekick
― it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 01:08 (four years ago) link
you can hear that fur collar on Einsjäger if you listen carefully
― Brad C., Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link
pains me to say this but strict quarantine is a pretty great time to sink into some popol vuh eh?
my PV google alert yielded a quarantine "what are you listening to?" and i gotta say, this guy is otm! http://www.brooklynvegan.com/heres-what-brian-cook-russian-circles-sumac-is-listening-to-in-isolation/
i have listened to my two personal faves while walking with my dogs, a time-honored activity that always makes me feel good :)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
I don't think I've ever considerd listening to Popol Vuh while standing up let alone walking.
― I've got my bidet and my pills (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
oh man why did THIS never come through my google alert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UkhqvoQPU
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
that's a cover that i would probably recognize in like 3 notes and embarrass myself by yelling
i love to listen to popol vuh while walking but i also love walking
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
what are your two personal fav PV records ?
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
also shouting things that you should feel embarrassed about is standard protocol at union pool iirc
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
If I had to just go by the ones I choose to listen to the most, it's easy Letzte Tage – Letzte NächteHerz Au Glas/Heart of Glass
Runners up: Einsjäger und Siebenjäger Agape-Agape
I haven't met one I didn't like but those are my personal faves
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
Forgot about Seligpreisung That one is really good too, second tier
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
I love Seligpresung! "Selig sind die Sanftmütigen", especially if you play the whole album to build up to it, is one of the most joyous affirmations in song I've ever heard.
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
yeah and it’s rather nice to hear florian sing
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
since we're probably all trapped inside, I'll post another entry in my Popol Vuh travelogue from January 2019... listening to Die Nächt der Seele while hiking the Halemau'u Trail in Haleakelā National Park in Maui, and then pausing above the cloud deck over Ke'anae Valley, listening to Morgengruß:
http://fac123.net/pix/hi_trail_800.jpg http://fac123.net/pix/hi_clouds_800.jpg
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
that's the stuff, thank you
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
That’s right indeed
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
If a photo could sing it would sing PV
― thehobbitsthehobbitsthehobbitsthehobbitstoisengardtoisengard (Matt #2), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link
I think "Wo bist Du, der Du überwunden hast?" from Die Nacht der Seele is the best hiking jam of all time
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
to think I lived most of my life not knowing that until that day in Land's End
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rhq4tmYC6c
― am0n, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
I heard ONE NOTE and saidNO! out loud in a room w my dog 😢
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
Noooooo not a car commercial!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
aahahaha fuck
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
i always knew this would happen
― tylerw, Monday, 14 September 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
lol I thought it was gonna be Letzte Tage – Letzte Nächte, so I'm very slightly relieved to have been wrong about that
― J. Sam, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
I hope Fichelscher has been properly compensated
― J. Sam, Monday, 14 September 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
It's Engel der Gegenwart from the Herz aus Glas soundtrack... I wonder if all the actors in the Chevy commercial were hypnotized locals
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 14 September 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
Lol hope so
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 14 September 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
wow. about a decade ago i briefly did music searches for an ad agency and every single time would include a popol vuh track but never got a bite.
― stirmonster, Monday, 14 September 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
Man that’s (tied for) my favorite pv jam, too Does that make me basic
― and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
The use of the song in Herz aus Glas (starts at 32:47) shows that Herzog also knows that Popol Vuh make the best hiking soundtrack:
https://youtu.be/G9Zp4zOGHS8?t=1967
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
I know this might come across as a big ask, but someone might really enjoy it?
(Like, I made a similar request a few years ago for Tangerine Dream, and Elvis Telecom both graciously and enjoyably for both of us, went to town on it!)
Popol Vuh has a huge catalogue of which I'm familiar with only a tiny portion - I could dig through this thread for suggestions of places to dig further, but it is like 800 posts long.
Does any kind krautlover fancy making a Spotify playlist of about, 10-12 songs pointing where to dig further?
― Greta Grebo (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link
I'm not a Popol completist, but here's a Vuh playlist I've put together over the last year or so (19 tracks): https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7lsjsa1cubAUFZFT8ekEst?si=p9iMcFsSQN6MhywBBoz3Vw
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
A little bit country, a little bit rock n' roll.
https://youtu.be/xZHCxG_XyL8
― Kieron Arse! (Noel Emits), Thursday, 17 September 2020 07:19 (three years ago) link
Ah, excellent! Thank you so much, Chinaski - that's a perfect mix of songs I am familiar with and new (to me) stuff to explore :D
― Greta Grebo (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 17 September 2020 07:47 (three years ago) link
The three "UNREASONABLY SUBJECTIVE GUIDE TO POPOL VUH" posts at the top of the thread are a helpful guide to their albums.
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
There was a compilation a few years back with 1 cd of original popol vuh stuff and another done by electronica artists
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Revisited-Remixed-1970-99-Popol-Vuh/dp/B004UBB3QU
― koogs, Thursday, 17 September 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
(few years = 9 years)
― koogs, Thursday, 17 September 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link
Dang that was 9 years ago?? Time flies. I listened to Agape Agape today and it really hit the spot.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
my last vuh listen was cobra verde
― and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Friday, 18 September 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 18 September 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
Sorry, Stevie - it was IIRC pre-Spotify era, and he actually uploaded a bunch of MP3s to his server for me to check out - an activity which has since become quite frowned upon to do openly.
― Grebo Jones (Branwell with an N), Friday, 18 September 2020 07:16 (three years ago) link
Also, I had pretty bad insomnia last night, and I forgot that I was skimming ILX while half asleep.
But in the early hours of this morning,I *DREAMED* that I had and was listening to this amazing compilation which had one disc of original Popop Vuh tracks, and one disc of electronic artists covering said tracks, and I was delighted to see that The Shamen were one of those acts!
This morning, reading this thread, I am delighted to see that Koogs posted exactly such a thing (which must have worked its way into my dreamstate) :D - and yet gutted that my current Special Interest of Crushing are not on it. :(
― Grebo Jones (Branwell with an N), Friday, 18 September 2020 07:21 (three years ago) link
Btw Spotify also includes a couple of albums by the Norwegian Popol Vuh/Popol Ace on the same page, in case you’re wondering why Florian Fricke would be writing songs called “Sucklin’ Pig” and “Leavin’ Chicago.”
― JoeStork, Friday, 18 September 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link
Bran, no worries, I’ll check w Elvis and see if he still has a list somewhereI am delighted that most if not all Popol Vuh albums are available on US Spotify, which they were most certainly NOT a few years ago. I saved all of the VERY SUBJECTIVE album recommendations and have gotten through “Einsjäger” and “Brüder des Schattens” so far, both excellent This is one of those bands that I really love and I’ve listened to most of their albums at least once, but not focused on enough to actually familiarize myself with anything, tho hopefully for not much longer.
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 18 September 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link
Bruder is tied for my favorite PV album along with Herz aus Glas
― and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_SxmZWuwdk
― am0n, Monday, 21 September 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
Woodcarver is excellent but the fact that the only protection anyone ever uses is a wooly hat boggles my mind.
― koogs, Monday, 21 September 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link
I'd once again like to thank Tom D. for his amazing reviews above. I've used them a couple of times now as a guide.
BTW, I own the soundtrack boxset people drooled over upthread. It's not amazing. The music is great of course, but the book is pretty flimsy content-wise and each of the CDs contains exactly the same booklet, which includes some of the content included in the book.
― Duke, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
i've had "letzte tage - letzte nächte" and "das hohelied salomos" on repeat for the last few weeks. they sound amazing in the autumn evening.
― budo jeru, Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
― Brad C., Friday, September 30, 2011 12:42 PM (nine years ago)bookmarkflaglink
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, September 30, 2011 1:25 PM (nine years ago)bookmarkflaglink
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Friday, September 30, 2011 1:54 PM (nine years ago)
this was helpful for me, maybe it will be helpful for someone ese
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
this was also helpful for me!
lol, the one popol vuh LP i own barely features his own playing!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
listening to the first track of city raga on a whim after wondering what 90s popol vuh sounds like and... it's good!
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
returned to this thread to thank Tom D for his famous guide above, which I probably think about even more than I actually listen to Popol Vuh! (trying to remedy that on long drives) but I see others have -recently too- had the same urge so I'm happy to be a part of that wave - thank you Tom D!
― Paul, Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link
I had a dream last night that I was in a radio station, and in their dumpster were a number of 60s easy listening albums, Percy Faith etc. There was an album on Ranwood Records (Lawrence Welk's label) of the "hits" of Popol Vuh done easy listening style, and now I want one.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/324550623374_/The-Exotic-Guitars-Holly-Holy-LP-Vinyl-Record.jpg
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
can't find much info, but looks like there is now an essential collection volume 2 out there (or at least on its way!)
― no lime tangier, Friday, 17 September 2021 06:41 (two years ago) link
That showed up today! Mostly these look like vinyl versions of the SPV releases. The only real surprise is "Earth View" from Kailash showing up at the end of Cœur de verre as a bonus track (looks like there's a new CD that does the same thing). Guido Hieronymus is credited as the sound supervisor for Cobra Verde, though that might just mean the bonus track. Haven't listened yet.
― with hidden noise, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link
anyone grab one of those new vinyl boxsets?
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link
Can't remember if Jon posts here any more? But he just wrote up a great looking guide for Shfl
https://theshfl.com/guide/popol-vuh
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2022 15:54 (two years ago) link
thanks for sharing!
― budo jeru, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link
whenever I see the cover art for In den Gärten Pharaos it blows my mind that it's from 1971. the design of it feels like 25-30 years ahead of its time
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link
yeah i've thought that too. the cover of hosianna mantra has fundamentally a similar design but that one looks of its time. just goes to show the effect a typeface and color scheme can have.
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link
is this by jon dale from melbourne or a different jon?
― stirmonster, Friday, 8 April 2022 01:04 (two years ago) link
that was great ned, thank you! also, why have i never listened to 'spirit of peace' before?
stirmonster: definitely the former
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2022 07:12 (two years ago) link
"Florian Fricke" sounds like the sort of name Longmont Potion Castle would come up with
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 May 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
Einsjager & Siebenjager (1974)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auLz3ssCsdg
― frogbs, Monday, 18 July 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link
lol
― budo jeru, Monday, 18 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
what's the deal with 10 minutes of "Brüder Des Schattens" just being lopped off on all the Nosferatu releases? it's not like there isn't room for it. weird how nearly all the PV soundtracks are like 25% retreads from other albums, 25% aimless Moog stuff, and 50% the most beautiful music you've ever heard in your life
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link
Apparently Herzog used to rummage around in tape boxes to find bits of music that fitted what he was after. Almost all of the music in Herz aus Glas isn't from the Herz aus Glas soundtrack but from the album before it, for instance.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
The moog stuff in Nosferatu was almost certainly recorded in the early 70s and not recorded for the film itself.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link
one of the tracks is just an excerpt from "Vergegenwärtigung" from Aguirre - which is also (I assume) not in the film. (the original Vergegenwärtigung, not the one that cobbles together stuff from a previous album)
isn't there a site which sorts this all out? back in the old days of the internet there would've been a www.popol-vuh.freak which would break down the lineage of each album in 30,000 words
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link
The bonus tracks on their CDs are all over the place, there's no indication of when anythinng was recorded and the titles are often totally misleading.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link
I was wondering abt that, I have some weird ones from a CD version of the 1st LP
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link
This is a defining feature of Popol Vuh — there are really only a handful of motifs that keep emerging in different forms in different places. There are outliers (LT-LN for example) and I feel like its bc they’re heavily Fishelscher.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
Here's a PDF I've consulted to make more sense of what's on which record, what is a remix/repeat from earlier albums, what pieces are in which film, etc.:
http://www.venco.com.pl/~acrux/misc/disc7.pdf
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
oh wow...that is a lot to sift through
and yeah sleeve if you're talking about "Train Through Time" on Affenstunde that is an all-time weird bonus track. not only was it actually recorded for the LAST Popol Vuh album (3 decades later!) but it also sounds nothing like any of the other material on the album
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link
there is also this perfect sound forever article that is quite detailed -there are 4 parts to it
― sknybrg, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
That document I linked to is a little deceptive on the subject of Nosferatu, because it was released with two different running orders, and they get the two mixed up.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
sorry, link didn’t post, but it’s on the furious.com website
― sknybrg, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
xxxp to frogs, yes that one and the "Dream Part x" series
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
I've been meaning to reorganize my Vuh stuff on my music server but have sorta got fond of the chaos
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 16 December 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link
Just gave Cobra Verde a spin for the first time in years. For an instrument that cost a quarter of a million at the time, the Synclavier sure does sound like a piece of shit doesn't it? They just about manage to make a listenable record anyway despite the synth pads.
― no jaki liebezeit required (Matt #2), Friday, 16 December 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link
got the first volume of the box sets for christmas. so psyched
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Sunday, 25 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
enjoy. it sounds amazing, way better than the MP3s I was listening to. hope vol. 3 is coming soon.
― frogbs, Monday, 26 December 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link
Been on a big Popol Vuh kick lately, but it's weird how like half of their albums are relatively easy to find, while the other half are a lot tougher (specifically prompted by looking for a CD copy of Letzte Tage – Letzte Nächte that doesn't cost north of $50).
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/2367863446 ?
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
I guess $35 is less than $50, still a lot...
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
for sure, I paid $10 in 2013 for that same edition
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
yea like a lot of overtly spiritual musicians who don't tend much to the business side their catalogue is a total mess. I never gave any thought to actually collecting the physical products until the recent box sets, which are not only very well pressed but also somewhat "definitive", assuming there's a 3rd and 4th one to come
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link
But even those boxsets skip around a little bit, no?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
they do but I think that's fine because PV doesn't really have 'eras' to me, each album is sort of its own thing and a lot of them incorporate elements of past albums. so like the first one has the Aguirre & Nosferatu soundtracks on it, which incorporate elements of Einsjager and Affenstunde, so it makes a little sense to put them altogether. Hosianna Mantra is also on there just to bridge the gaps a bit. idk I'm fine with it so long as they eventually get everything together.
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Yeah, my complaint is more minor, it's just interesting to see which of their albums are in plentiful supply and which aren't. When I decided to check them out more closely a few years ago, I didn't even have to go out of my way to get the first five I bought (Aguirre, Nosferatu, Affenstunde, Einsjager and Hosianna), but I've really slowed down since and stumbled across a used copy of Sei still, wisse ich bin in Michigan a few months ago.
But since then I only find copies of those same five albums. I don't think I've ever even seen Letzte Tage – Letzte Nächte in the wild at all.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:01 (one year ago) link
I am still grateful to la lèchera for hooking me up with the Spalax edition of Letzte Tage which to me sounds much better than the remasters
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
:) that one remains one of my all time fave albums
i am satisfied with my current state of Popol Vuh releases
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link
I have everything up to "Brüder Des Schattens - Söhne Des Lichts", what else should I check out? Cobra Verde? Fitzcarraldo?
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link
and man you wanna talk about a discographical mess, crosscheck the various bonus tracks between editions if you dare
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
TBH I almost never listen to those two but I do like Agape-Agape a LOT
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
ty!
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Sei still, wisse ich bin is really good too, imo
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Yeah I dig that one quite a bit, was happy I found it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
noted, hey the 2017 Wah Wah version of that isn't insanely expensive!
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
yea I mean Aguirre alone - a bunch of Side A is alternate takes from Einsjager, Side B is a long discarded track from the Moog era called "Vergegenwärtigung", but later editions replaced it with 3 other tracks from later albums, though on the CD it's still one long track called "Vergegenwärtigung". some editions have "Aguirre III" and others have the 3-part "Spirit of Peace" on it. very little of this was actually in the film, though one of the tunes that was (the bit at the end of the first title track) isn't even listed on the sleeve. so what, exactly, would the definitive edition be??
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
This is from Agape-Agape and has the slow burn propulsion I love in this band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2WMsM-c4bY
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
Agape-Agape is good but the production is just so lo-fi, I don't know what that was about.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
^^^
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link
fourth'd
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:50 (one year ago) link
just got the 2nd box. wow Seligpreisung is really good. sounds like Magma attempting Hosianna Mantra. sure wish Djong Yun was on it though!
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:18 (ten months ago) link
I love Seligpreisung. It sounds to me like a jammier Obscured By Clouds-era Pink Floyd. Fricke's vocals are definitely the weakest thing about it. I don't actually mind them that much, but I would have preferred Djong Yun to sing it too. But it's all good because we have Das Hohelied Salomos for that. I recently treated myself to a clean OG German vinyl pressing of that one for my birthday, and I couldn't be happier with it. I love everything about that record, down to the whimsical/menacing cover art--spiritual psych perfection.
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:29 (nine months ago) link
i adore that record.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:34 (nine months ago) link
hosianna mantra
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:22 (four months ago) link
This thread is ilm at its best innit: knowledgeable, obsessive, in love with its subject in a way that can only make you go wandering.
Don't think it's actually linked here, but ended up at the 1996 Edw1n P0uncey interview this morning. https://popolvuh.nl/archive/bibliography/34-archive/bibliography/180-my-strange-life-florian-fricke-interview
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 16 December 2023 09:48 (four months ago) link
That's a great read, thank you!irl lol:
FF - Sometimes I think about this. There's only one person in Germany I like (except for Gerhard!), to sit together with him. It's Boris Becker! He's a good man. My son knows him. And he's sung for the disco
― willem, Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:19 (four months ago) link
Hehehe.
Also liked:
GA - Have you ever been in England, Florian?FF - Yes, I was very early in London in the 1960s .. .l met some people, the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The London 'underground' scene ... the Pink Floyd.EP - Did you see Yoko in her gallery?FF - No, it was private. It was terrible. The doors had no locks on them; there was a chair. The chair was half. I had claustrophobia. I need closed doors. And so the first doors I (whoosh) opened them up and then no possible more come out this terrible woman out of the room.
FF - Yes, I was very early in London in the 1960s .. .l met some people, the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The London 'underground' scene ... the Pink Floyd.
EP - Did you see Yoko in her gallery?
FF - No, it was private. It was terrible. The doors had no locks on them; there was a chair. The chair was half. I had claustrophobia. I need closed doors. And so the first doors I (whoosh) opened them up and then no possible more come out this terrible woman out of the room.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:52 (four months ago) link