― Nate (Nate), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
I actually like it quite a bit, but I have never heard any of the previous material. I was jarred a bit by what I actually heard, because my expectations were something very different after seeing the "4AD" on the cover. After I recovered, I decided I enjoy it quite a bit: John's voice takes a bit of getting used to, but I love the stories he's telling on this one, and the conflict. Even if the similes get a bit out of hand, some of them are still amazing. And I still contend that "No Children" is one of the best songs of the year. The whole album (Talahassee) is both disturbing and hilarious, all at the same time.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lee G (Lee G), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
SwedenZopolite MachineFull Force Galesburg
song search:
"Going To Georgia""sept 19 triple x love! love!""prana ferox"
― gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Me, I love the three singles/rarities collections to bits.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
**** MODERATOR: REMOVE BELOW WHEN PROMPTED:(i hope i never have to hear that leonard cohen cover from the last extra glenns record ever again)****
― gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax!, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
john i love you and your crazy ass stories.
two releases last year that did it for me are Ghana and All Hail West Texas.
John, I hear you are playing Macrock this year in Virginia? Is that true?
― Brock K. (Brock K.), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
As far as S/D, search the new one & the one before it, All Hail West Texas, & also the cassette "Yam, the King of Crops." Destroy with extreme prejudice the song where I say I never liked Morrissey, maliciously mispronouncing his name, because I have since come to my senses and am a Mozz booster of the first order
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Carey, Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
S: pretty much everything, but especially Hot Garden Stomp, Beautiful Rat Sunset, Taking The Dative and All Hail West TX (haven't heard Tallahassee yet)
D: nothing comes to mind
― mike a (mike a), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
I heart John.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
If you don't like any of that, it's pretty safe to say that they ain't your bag, etc., as that represents a wide array of styles.
And "Going to Marrakesh" and "Someone Else's Parking Lot in Sebastapol" from The Extra Glenns' MARTIAL ARTS WEEKEND.
Still digesting TALLAHASSEE. That Scrawl CD just finished playing, so I think I'll throw it in now.
John, come play in Portland sometime.
― doug (doug), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Adam A. (Keiko), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jesse Fox, Friday, 17 January 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― brg30 (brg30), Friday, 17 January 2003 00:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Search: yes
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
yay! where? also do a reminder HYPE thread the week before if possible...
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
there's a whole lot of similes that connect romance to terrorism-kinda stuff but I don't recall any account of actual incidents that would explain why the relationship is LIKE terrorism. I'd kinda like to hear "you shot my cat, you bastard" next to "oh, you are like someone making a bomb" cuz it can kinda sound like zeitgeist exploitation. but the uptempo drummer on that one track was great idea! And I really usually listen to an album at least twice before talkin' about it, but it seems an opportune to bring it up (and it would look weird if everybody was ravin' wildly).
jesus, I gotta go die now. sorry. this wasn't easy for me, folks, so go easy on the flamebacks.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)
In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah
(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.
Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
1. Cubs in Five2. Family Happiness3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back4. Going to Port Washington5. Going to Alaska6. Going to Marrakesh7. Golden Boy8. No Children9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song12. Anti-Music Song13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!14. No, I Can’t15. Orange Ball of Hate16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?17. Standard Bitter Love Song #418. Standard Bitter Love Song #819. Love Cuts the Strings20. Seed Song21. Water Song22. The Window Song23. Jam Eater Blues24. Two Thousand Seasons25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton26. The Sign
― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)
the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons
Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml
― just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
I have no further contribution to make to this thread.
― hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.
― hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.
Enough already.
― Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"
― David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)
i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.
― , Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.
[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 January 2003 04:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― robin (robin), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
God, I hope not.
― mike a (mike a), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
3) Mountain Goats - Tallahassee (4AD)
― Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
4AD are going exactly the same way as original, life affirmingly INDEPENDENT allies Mute by signing pretty hopeless bands. If The Mountain Goats are the new Pixies then that pig really DID just fly past the window. More up Clint's street are these and even he thinks they're a bit pants. The band's new CD, 'Tallahassee' is out this week. Supposedly their 12th album, previous efforts have been on little US indies, this 4AD debut is average alt-country tinged lo-fi strum rock. Some might find some nuggets of gold up in them thar mountains but all I found were some old Yak droppings. Gorgeous packaging like but the words 'polish' and 'turd' spring to mind (again)....
― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
Please.
Thank you.
Also, if you play Portland, please play "Golden Boy", as it would mean a lot to my roommate/bandmate, who sings it to her godson to get him to go to sleep, and is anyway one of your absolute best songs, even better than "Fresh Berries For You".
― Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
There. I am done being such a fanboy. Oh, except to note my friend's observation about how awkward it is to scream out "ABSOLUTE LITHOPS EFFECT!" as a concert request.
― Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jens (brighter), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Monday, 3 February 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE WHOLE CLASS, MR. NORDIC?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
i was a pretty big fan in high school with a couple tapes, an lp and a cd but i haven't had much of an urge to listen to any of it in at least four or five years and haven't heard anything since sweden or nothing for juice.
i still get a little thrill when i see j*hn's name come up on a thread though. feels like hollywood.
― brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
this is all i know: perfect harmony, great bassplaying, takes the lead on "going to queens".
also what reggae song is the snippet from the beginning of "sept 19 triple x love! love!" from?
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 18:54 (twenty years ago) link
(ps J0hn somehow I hadn't heard this stuff for long time but am now the proud owner of All Hail West Texas which is friggin fabulous and really helped me not feel like a reanimated corpse yesterday morning)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
Hurrah for Nickalicious! A fine album, is it not? It and Tallahassee are nicely complementary without being specifically paired.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 August 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 15 August 2003 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Mirov (nick), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link
Hurrah!
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Friday, 3 October 2003 03:24 (twenty years ago) link
01. Some Swedish Trees02. Raja Vocative03. Color In Your Cheeks04. Going To Port Washington05. Korean Bird Paintings06. Alpha Incipiens07. New Star Song08. Baboon09. Alpha Rat's Nest10. Pure Heat11. Going To Queens12. Jenny13. Cheshire County14. It Froze Me15. Raid on Entebbe16. No Children17. Neon Orange Glimmer Song18. There Will Be No Divorce19. Distant Stations20. Nine Black Poppies21. Alpha Omega22. Going To Georgia23. The Alphonse Mambo24. Soft Targets25. Commandante26. Going To Chino
and John, for the love of god, give Iowa one more dose of the rock before you jump ship. don't make me go to Omaha, man!
― colin mcelligatt, Friday, 3 October 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Mirov (nick), Friday, 3 October 2003 06:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
Alexander Kowalski's on now, so I'm gonna have a dance.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Friday, 3 October 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link
(I almost cried when he played "it froze")
― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:47 (twenty years ago) link
Yay, does this mean I'm not the only one on ILM that loves that album???
― Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 4 October 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link
― youn, Saturday, 4 October 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 4 October 2003 23:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom E., Sunday, 5 October 2003 01:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 5 October 2003 08:46 (twenty years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:30 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.kuci.org/~brianm/ile/goats/019_death_crew.jpg
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:35 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 5 October 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Sunday, 5 October 2003 23:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 5 October 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 October 2003 00:38 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link
Also, wasn't he finally moving?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:42 (twenty years ago) link
But how I wish he were here to dance, sing, and make funny for all of us.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago) link
Where's he moving to?
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:48 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago) link
― sonny d., Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:27 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:33 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:35 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2003-12-25/music3.html/1/index.html
― Chris O., Wednesday, 7 January 2004 08:37 (twenty years ago) link
Hopefully this will translate to more GSO shows. One a week? Is that asking too much?
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago) link
Raise Up, j0hn! Take your shirt off/twist it 'round yo hand/Spin it like a helicopter!
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:31 (twenty years ago) link
― OleM (OleM), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
well. its doing it now. This is one GREAT cd. i know you dont post anymore, but if you're reading, thanks j0hn.
― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 16 August 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 16 August 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 16 August 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― akiva, Monday, 16 August 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Mr. Mat0s did in fact post briefly on the Stranger/Seattle Weekly thread over the weekend.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
j0hn has set a board at LPTJ, and some ilxers are posting there. I'm sure he's lurking tho'. Ditto everybody who has 'left'.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 August 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― youn, Friday, 11 February 2005 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link
i wonder if we'll ever get to hear the "behind the music" story of rachel...
ITEM! Rachel was at the show last night and sang backup on "Going to Georgia!"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
1995 all over again, visions of young people in the pomona arts colony, a blissful state, fair youth. Sweden is the greatest record.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 February 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― _Bad_Command_or_File_Name_ (bcofn1), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― dggdhfgd, Monday, 24 April 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link
it's almost hard to listen to for me, i wonder what would happen to me if i got divorced or my wife died. i wouldn't know what to do.
― M@tt He1geson, Rendolent Ding-Dong (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 22 September 2006 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link
it is called "elijah"
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 22 September 2006 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, same here. I went back to it because any record with No Children on it can't be all bad, but I can't believe I didn't pay more attention the first time - the run from Game Shows Touch Our Lives (! ! Jesus, what a song! Fuck! Christ!) down to See America Right is fantastic, and Oceanographer's Choice is an amazing closer to the album.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Classic new old song: Counting Song for Bitter Children.
YSI & explanation in the tMG forum (scroll down, 4th last message on this page: http://www.mountain-goats.com/forums/read.php?2,10338,page=4 )
― StanM, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 09:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been in a really big Mountain Goats phase lately. this week I resolved to stop smoking, drinking caffeine, and buying Mountain Goats albums. guess which one I relapsed on first?
but on the plus side, I've converted several people in the past week, including my mom, who "Could see how (she) would've been a huge fan of these guys when (she) was (my) age".
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I find it nearly impossible to read Mt. Johnny's Marooned piece without imagining King Goat himself singing it; like something off of We Shall All be Healed, say.
― JN$OT, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
They're like Bright Eyes, right?
― wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link
In a perverse alternate universe, perhaps.
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
WHOAAAAAA my living room is a perverse alternate universe
― wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought it might be.
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
What a crap name, though. "Mounting Goats" would have been slightly better in a sub-Throwing Muses sort of way.
Honestly can't be bothered to check out a band with such a lame aesthetic as regards naming themselves. I suspect they only chose "Mountain Goats" because they didn't think of "Toilet Seats" or "Supermarket Trolleys" until it was far too late.
Only possible up-side is that in France they may be known as "Les Chamoises" which is waaaaaay better. If such monickered records exist, I suggest they begin importing them into the anglophone world asap.
― PhilK, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
ok waht
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
PhilK is a fake.
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
He's brothers with JeffK
http://i3.tinypic.com/63trk0o.gif
― Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
J'adore Les Chamoises
― PhilK, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
"Mounting Goats", tho...?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Reserved for tribute band.
obv.
― PhilK, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
"Mounting Goats" is a retarded name.
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
they were originally named The Goats but then they had to change it. They were located in Denver at the time so the Mountain thing is a reference to the time zone, sort of a joke on The London Suede.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if J0hn would be up for a beer this weekend, looks like he'll be around these parts.
― mh, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
That yell of "It's 2:20, smoke up!" at the end of the first album is a cryptic ref to the roots of the name change.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
The tribute band should be The Musk Oxen.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The Denver Boots!!!!!!
There you go, that should have been it.
― PhilK, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The clamped-down sound of the The Denver Boots. Stopping traffic in a town neat you.......
― PhilK, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
near
Mountain Goats playing in Milwaukee tonight. Why not Madison? We like you here.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I do wish he would return to Knoxville.
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link
never once have mountain goats played here in oak bluffs. what's up with that?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link
people would turn out for a madison show. in the past two weeks we've hosted
-mono -high on fire -dianogah -drive-by truckers -architecture in helsinki -melt banana -devin the dude and -del tha funkee homosapien
why no badger show for you, j0hn D?
― kamerad, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link
i like the mountain goats.
― dylannn, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link
He played here two nights in a row once. It was great.
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link
If you got the loot and a place with a dressing room, I'm sure he will rock you eventually. But the dressing room is key. Why he wasn't in Philly for like three years.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link
But...he played at the Tomato Head here (pizza restaurant)!
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess that is just because Knoxville is awesome, though.
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link
dear j0hn d, the high noon saloon has a dressing room and sells pizza. greater metro madison has the #1 rated brewery in america, too http://www.capital-brewery.com/
― kamerad, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link
CD-R I made for my young son a couple years ago:
1. Going To Georgia 2. The Mess Inside 3. Palmcorder Yajna 4. See America Right 5. Grendel's Mother 6. Going To Scotland 7. Sinaloon Milk Snake Song 8. No Children 9. Linda Blair Was Born Innocent 10. Love Love Love 11. Your Belgian Things 12. Pale Green Things 13. Peacocks 14. Orange Ball Of Love 15. Orange Ball Of Hate 16. Alpha In Tauris 17. Song For Tura Satana 18. Heights 19. Color in Your Cheeks 20. Source Decay 21. Moon And Sand 22. Mole 23. Tallahassee 24. Million 25. Dilaudid 26. Cotton
He loves this mix, plays it a lot, ad even played some of it to his guitar teacher who had never heard of the MGs, so we be spreading the word, etc.
Seriously, though, bless Darnielle for both his music and his passionate musings on music.
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hold on. Did this actually happen? Did someone just mention one of their favourite band's songs that they liked but couldn't find, and the artist actually remembered ALL the lyrics and chords and recorded a new version for everyone to hear? "
Something like that. Song from 94.
― MRZBW, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link
If you are a person who got to that YSI in time, would you mind re-YSIing it?
― Madchen, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link
yep, here it is - m4a though, that was the format it was in originally:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ltgvy
― StanM, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Bad news for Mr. D. : the album leaked :-(
― StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
That is bad. Is that the fault of the label?
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know how it happened
― StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Great, great album - a little more produced than I expected, but typically great songwriting (probably even better than Get Lonely)
― StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
haha way to help j0hn out by keeping the leak a secret.
― Lingbert, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
i am already selling chopped and screwed versions on the corner along with I Am Legend DVDs.
― scott seward, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
people are talking on the official site's forum too, but ok
xpost
― StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
stan why do you want to bankrupt j0hn
― Lingbert, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Looking forward to (legally!) downloading Heretic Pride. I loved The Sunset Tree, especially Lion's Teeth. Such a powerful, sad song (e.g., "There's no good way to end this/Anyone can see/There's this great big you/And little old me."). eMusic just got a truckload of older MG discs, so I nabbed All Hail West Texas, which is v. good, too.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
(I totally missed Get Lonely, tho.)
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know! Maybe I'm just evil :-(
xxpost
― StanM, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Agreed with Daniel about The Sunset Tree--one of my favorite albums of 2005! Get Lonely seemed a bit too stark (depressive?) for me at the time, though--so much so that I couldn't actually listen to it all that much. Can't wait to buy a copy of the new one! Go Johnny Go!!
― Ioannis, Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link
It sounds really awesome, nice to hear some prominent drumming in the mix.
I will totally pimp this on my radio show.
― Simon H., Saturday, 29 December 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
as I said upthread, four or five years ago:
I try to avoid talking about my own stuff on ilX0r
but regarding the leak 'n' all: I don't think talking about a leak really does me or anybody any harm. Leaks are part of the life of a release now; they're expected and anticipated. (A lot of people like to tell each other that "the labels" [always plural, very mysterious conglomerate known as The Labels] leak whole albums on purpose for buzz, but none of the indie labels I know do that; could be true in other genres/strata, I don't know.)
― J0hn D., Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link
however yes people who download & enjoy it but don't then follow through with a purchase = not "evil" (that's self-congratulatory), just kinda bein' dicks imo
― J0hn D., Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link
j0hn you have pretty far ranging tastes, e.g. metal + most everything else; have you, or have you considered, making music in a different idiom? (not that there's anything wrong with your current one--just wondering.)
if you say no due to instrumental dexterity i will not believe you.
― mookieproof, Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah it's crossed my mind, world enough and time you know. just doing what I'm already doing takes up most of my time. I don't have any desire to make metal though - people ask me that a lot, but I prefer to be a fan. once you leave the fan role and become a participant it changes your relationship to the genre you're working in, and forever as far as I know. I would rather remain a metalhead in the pit or at least at the bar and leave the shredding to the people who are really good at it.
― J0hn D., Sunday, 30 December 2007 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I still have a load of stuff to catch up with from 2007 so I can wait (probably) til February to pick this up with real life £££ (or possibly $$$).
We Shall All Be Healed I have probably listened to more than anything else I have ever owned and Linda Blair Was Born Innocent is quite possibly my favouritest song ever; The Sunset Tree I also gave a good outing to but not perhaps as much as I should have; I left my copy of Get Lonely in the US and haven't gotten round to buying another (gave it an aewsoem review tho) but fully intend to along with all the other bits that are missing.
I'm incredibly annoyed at myself for missing the show in London earlier this month - any possibility of another one this year or maybe a festival appearance or two?
'Surrounded' is great btw.
― Upt0eleven, Sunday, 30 December 2007 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link
A friend just asked which MG album to start with; I recommend ...Healed. It's my favorite, the first one I bought, thus very speical. Reminds me a bit of Joan Didion: an attempt to pin down a nameless dread that the narrator's seen but is still too spooked to delineate.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 30 December 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link
"an attempt to pin down a nameless dread that the narrator's seen but is still too spooked to delineate."
wow, john has seen my dad naked? i should get that one.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 December 2007 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link
So a mountain goat goes up to another mountain goat and says "Who was that lady I saw you with last night?" And the other goat goes "That was no lady! That was my kid!"
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 30 December 2007 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
So J0hn once said that he wasn't "that J0hn D," and now I realize he must have meant he wasn't the rap journo.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 30 December 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link
May a disappointed fan inquire ofa certain someone as to whether the cancelled Northampton show will be rescheduled in the foreseeable future? Please?
― Usual Channels, Sunday, 30 December 2007 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link
From the forum:
Quick request from yrs truly, who again is actually kinda relieved about the leak - I'm very proud of this record and I think people who dig my stuff are gonna be pretty into it - if you're gonna d/l it as soon as you find it, would you kindly preorder it? like, at the same time as you're downloading it, instead of "maybe I'll buy it at a show or something"? it would be very rad if y'all who're gonna grab it and intend to buy it would do this. You would be doing me a real favor. Those of you who aren't gonna buy it anyway no matter what, nothing I can say is gonna make any difference anyhow, so this isn't about that. But the rest of you, may I remind you that them there pre-orders are right here?:
www.beggarsgroupusa.com
I just preordered the digital album for what seems like a very reasonable $8.
― toby, Monday, 31 December 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
The "Coming Soon" box says it will appear on eMusic on 02.19.08.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 31 December 2007 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
J0hn D., why is your book not about Chocolate Factory? I find this immensely disappointing.
― The Reverend, Monday, 31 December 2007 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Played this earlier for first time, sounded good.
Is the sleeve supposed to have a black metal vibe to it or what?
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 3 January 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Where do non-Americans register for that preorder?
― StanM, Thursday, 3 January 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll be buying this the day it comes out, on CD; really looking forward to it, as I've enjoyed all the 4AD stuff and am dipping my toes into the earlier material as i come across it in the used shops.
& if John wanted to branch out into a different realm, he could always go Dashboard-style emo, and do pretty well imo. But I'd prefer that he didnt.
― stephen, Friday, 4 January 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I think he should but perhaps under a different name. doodz are easily confused.
― Upt0eleven, Friday, 4 January 2008 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Does anyone have an extra ticket to the Philly show?
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 10 March 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Digging the new record more with every listen.
And I now know what an Autoclave is.
― Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Still need to pick up Heretic Price, damnit...
― stephen, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
(Heretic Pride, even)
going to catch the mountain goats on 12 april
'the sunset tree' has been tiding me over very nicely just recently. i should give the new one a close listen too.
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Get well soon, Mr. D.
( http://www.mountain-goats.com/archives/2008/03/australian-tour.html )
― StanM, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link
get well soon J0hn, you are rad.
― t_g, Thursday, 20 March 2008 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Get well soon.
― toby, Thursday, 20 March 2008 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
What they said.
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 20 March 2008 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link
yikes j0hn hope u are ok
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 20 March 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
bump for more good vibes & because J0hn is one of the awesomest dudes on ILX
― StanM, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Too bad about that. NY Times gave a very good review today of Tuesday night's show.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
i heard the show last night (wed) in williamsburg was really awesome. my good friend laura went who is a huge fan. said the electric guitar and drums worked well.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i really like heretic pride a lot.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Wishing John well, he's a real inspiration.
― myndbloom, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah get lonely & heretic pride have been spinning in my car for like 2 months now. get well soon dude.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Thank you everybody. Kind of in a really dark tunnel right now which keeps getting darker. It is kind of not my style to air this sort of thing out publicly online both for antiquated reasons of decor & because it's weird when I say something somewhere and it ends up as part of the generally-received bio or something. Sort of have to be prudent about saying "here's what's going on with me" too much.
Really can't tell you how much I appreciate your kind words. More than I can say!
Because I have had to cancel one tour and stop booking another in order to be home, you will all have the chance to get way tired of me & my strident ways over the next couple of months tho LOL awesome hit me back yo
― J0hn D., Friday, 21 March 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link
j0hn!! i started spinning heretic pride again like literally 5 minutes ago lol. it is great. get better.
― deeznuts, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Very sorry to hear about your hard times. I hope you come through more or less intact. Though I don't really know most folks here too well, I'm pretty sure I speak for more than just me when I say, let us know if there's anything we do.
― dad a, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link
get better u are loved
― jergïns, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
:( get better J0hn. Haven't listened to the new album yet but I am going to!!!
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link
yer a good dude, hope all turns upwards and well
― John Justen, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Best wishes for you, J0hn, and whatever yr situation happens to be.
― libcrypt, Friday, 21 March 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Earlier today, iTunes shuffled "This Year" into "Self-Destructive Zones" by the Drive-By Truckers. They have the same chord progression - an admittedly common one, but it was a cool reprise anyway.
Hope everything starts looking up for you.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 21 March 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Gah, I really wanted to see you in Philly tonight. Get well soon, JD.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 21 March 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link
was looking forward to catching one of your shows finally, but understand the circumstances for sure. as compensation, i'll keep spinning the discs.
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 21 March 2008 03:03 (sixteen years ago) link
John, saw you on Tuesday at Webster Hall, you played a great show. Get better soon. You're one of my favorites.
― jonathan - stl, Friday, 21 March 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Get well and stay strong.
― leavethecapital, Friday, 21 March 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link
'Sax Rohmer #1' is perhaps my very favourite thing ever just now. Great video, too. I already liked the concept in the first few seconds, and then it KEPT GOING!!
Every time I listen to Heretic Pride I give myself another little kick in the ass for not shelling out to see TMG in Glasgow in December. Any future shouts I make for "J0hn Darn1elle shreds!" will be so much less topical than they would have been then. :'(
Get well soon, John.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 22 March 2008 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link
get well soon, J0hn
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 22 March 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link
All the best, John. Looking forward to sparring amicably real soon.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 March 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Best wishes, J0hn.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 22 March 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link
so that line in marduk t-shirt men's room incident about 'i let myself imagine she was you' is totally fucking devastating and awesome fyi.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link
get well john
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Ugh, keep getting bad news lately. Good thoughts sent in your direction, J0hn.
― Lostandfound, Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Nice show in DC tonight. Loved the emo intro with the reference to Rites of Spring, and the Mr. Rogers story. Sorry about your health. Best wishes.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link
wishing u good stuff
― gabbneb, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Good luck, John, yr the bestest.
― maciej recognizing trill, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link
all health, j0hn - hope you get to make it down here soon enough.
― energy flash gordon, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link
thanks for the great show last night! you looked the picture of health, fwiw. all best wishes.
― W i l l, Sunday, 23 March 2008 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
just got the PR about the resched - glad to hear you're still playing Manning, was really looking forward to seeing youse (and Wurster!) there
― john della boscaoila (sic), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I am hearing them now, on last fm, a song called 'Source Decay'. It sounds like one fellow singing over one rough acoustic guitar. The recording sounds prety rough too, I don't know why that is.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe cuz it wasnt recorded v well
― t_g, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i think the early stuff is pretty much on the rough side.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, man, start with Tallahassee and explore from there if yer at all interested.
― Perry-Como-Zombie-Memorial-Radio-Now! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
"tallahassee" is the one about that couple breaking up, isn't it? that album is amazing. going into very dark regions of the soul.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link
yep. that one and the following two are my all-time faves by J0hn.
― Perry-Como-Zombie-Memorial-Radio-Now! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link
In true fickle form, my favorite MG album is the last one I played.
― i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i just discovered "the black ice cream song" from zopilote machine on shuffle. i have a bunch of albums, but except for sunset tree, which i know front to back, i pay attention to one or two tracks for a long time and then keep finding what seem like new tracks.
― mte, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I always recommend All Hail West Texas as a starting point for some reason, I've never really thought about why, just seemed reasonable. Maybe because the first thing they hear is the Best Ever Death Metal Band Out of Denton and that track seems to appeal pretty bluntly to most people? Er...
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, and they sound rough because he recorded that early stuff on a boombox (multi-xpost)
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, but that album sounds pretty one-note.
― Perry-Como-Zombie-Memorial-Radio-Now! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
in terms of...?
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
style, sound, 'production', song-writing, you name it.
― Perry-Como-Zombie-Memorial-Radio-Now! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I've never got much beyond Tallahassee (although I own about half-a-dozen), but by golly, Tallahassee is a fucking extraordinarily good record.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
huh, my thoughts on it all were more along the lines of "cohesive" or "consistent", but I suppose I can see what you're saying (xpost)
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link
well, yeah, that's exactly what i meant; it's all consistently one-note. th real problem for me, actually, is that it gets kinda hard to pay attention after the awesome opener. for me, it just ends up sinking into the background pretty much from that point on. i actually kinda wish J0hn would remake some of the stronger songs, or at least release live versions maybe.
― Perry-Como-Zombie-Memorial-Radio-Now! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
In hindsight you might be right...if my memory is accurate (though it's been a few years, and it isn't), all my favorite tracks are in the first half of the disc.
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a pretty great one-two punch to open all hail west texas. those just-slightly-poetic codas —"if you punish a person," etc., and "your grandfather rode the boat over from ireland"—really punctuate the suburban drama.
― mte, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
at least release live versions maybe
― t_g, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Been falling in love all over again with 'Tallahassee' and 'The Sunset Tree' lately. "I'm gonna make it through this year, if it kills me." *heart*
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
so this Last Night of Your Life tour with Kaki King, what's it like? taking turns, playing together, her material, his material, the collaborative songs? excited...
― W i l l, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
there're lots of links to great live stuff on the Mountain Goats' site.
oh, and, uh, best band ever, etc.
― BigLurks, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
glad to hear you're still playing Manning
Rescinding this – it’s $52 at the uni and $20 in a depressed coal-mining port, so driving up the coast to see them. But mainly posting to alert J0hn that although Jester’s Pies have gone bust, while he's in the area today, the franchisee in Newtown bought out the location and it’s running as Janet’s Pies with similar, but not quite as exciting, pastry-encased vegetable matter.
― venkman boners are totally canon (sic), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
went to the morrissey fan site to check out some new album stuff and saw a story that linked to the goats doing "suedehead"! : )
― you can't stop the shinin' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5169038/writing-about-good-music-is-hard
food 4 thought
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
kind of an annoying article. those pieces happen, what's the big deal? sure they're kind of obvious, but i don't believe they're completely lost on the artists in question. w/r/t to the goats piece, an avid fan (friend of mine) was really excited to see it.
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
not feelin that gawker thing at all
― just sayin, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
"In fact, profiles of super-cool independent musicians in mass-market consumer magazines almost inevitably turn out to be cringe-inducing, forced exercises in justifying the relevance of an artist that often doesn't really care about being relevant to begin with."
so non-mainstream musicians don't care about being relevant? hmmm
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
it's weird to throw the new yorker profile in there also, they have profiles of lots of pretty obscure ppl right? also that article was dope
― just sayin, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link
(the nyer one i mean)
they have profiles all the time, obscure or not. it's like he's annoyed that these artists are getting mainstream attention -- "i liked them before you did!!"
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that's really the only reason i can think he would have bothered writing this
anyway like someone said in the comments, the reason why he can do this list is bcz profiles generally follow a formula (no matter who's getting profiled)
― just sayin, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I really didn't like that New York magazine article. One of the reasons I like The Mountain Goats so much is that for the most part, John's songwriting doesn't fall into the "sensitive acoustic troubador" category. That's why I got into them so much, it was so weird to hear a lone-wolf-with-acoustic guitar guy who wasn't just all "I'm so sad," but instead wrote these wry, literary songs about fictional people's sadness. I mean that's sort of changed these days, since The Sunset Tree and all, but I feel like the NY mag article is trying to pigeonhole John, trying to fit him into a category to which he never belonged.
I could be dead wrong, of course.
― telepathy_rock!, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
No, actually you're dead right and I'm with you.
― ilxor, Monday, 16 March 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't really like the New York mag article because, well...
Wesley, of course, read from the Book of Darnielle, while the next girl read the lyrics of Conor Oberst, a.k.a. the folksinger Bright Eyes. Wesley was disgusted. “Bright Eyes is not a man, he’s just a boy,” Wesley told me. “Bright Eyes is just this over the top ‘I am wussy man, hear me roar.’ Did you know the word virtue comes from the Latin word for man? You get too sensitive, you lose your strength. And his stuff is so vague. John once wrote a song that has a line ‘I love you because you gave me sausage and cheese when I was hungry’—it’s earned because it’s a concrete thought: You fed me, that’s why I love you.”
― if you like it then you shoulda put a donk on it (bernard snowy), Monday, 16 March 2009 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
lol at the comments on the new yorker piece:
Ew.By ping on 03/04/2009 at 6:35pm
Sappy and pathetic and please no more.By ELECTRAfied26 on 03/08/2009 at 10:45pm
What did I just read?By whygodwhy on 03/09/2009 at 7:03pm
I mean explain it to me, in a way a stoned person could understand.By whygodwhy on 03/09/2009 at 7:04pm
― joe, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
but it seems the problem is more with the publications overall, than with how they tackle INDIE music, no?
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean sometimes i have a problem reading anything in the new yorker
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
that was retarded
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i think the authors point isnt "oh how passe and lame and uncool of you to write about neko case"--i think the point he wants to make is "writing, as a journalist, about bands for which you have a deep & abiding affection doesnt make for very good journalism."
there are all sorts of sub-issues he has with that--like, deciding to write a piece abt your favorite band will often lead to paper-thin justifications for writing about that band so as to avoid the appearance that youre just writing about the band because you like them--and also that writing a piece about a band you love is a lot more likely to lead to the kind of cliched darkness-success-redemption story arc than writing about a band for a different reason (say, they have a new & compelling arc to their career, or you can make a successful argument for their uniqueness as a band).
obviously this is all subjective--to wide-eyed fans of neko case, john darnielle, etc., these artists are so compelling just on the face of it that you shouldnt need a justification to write about them! but to the other portion of the population (say, me) who dont really care too much for andrew bird, i need more of a reason than "hes really good" to read about him (in a journalistic setting, of course; criticism is a different animal, at least in the eyes of the blog post)
i guess i kind of agree with him.
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
when i say kind of, i mean, the darnielle piece wasnt poorly written, just poorly conceived, and i basically disagree about the bonnie prince billy piece for a couple reasons, incl. the new yorkers tendency towards hook-less articles that stand on the strength of their writing, and oldhams comparative stature vs. case, bird, darnielle (no offense john)
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
or something.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
on a more positive note, my sixteen year old cousin is coming to visit me in a few weeks so she can go see the mountain goats thing with slice-of-key-lime-pie. her father is dying of cancer (soon) and she really needs to get outta the house for a while.
i guess that wasn't positive.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
The justification for writing about anything is always "I find this interesting/informative/entertaining" (delete where applicable). There isn't really anything else to it as far as I can tell, regardless of the subject or the setting, so I don't get where you're coming from, max (the disconnect appears to be between what you find intersting/informative/entertaining and what NYer editorial finds i/i/e).
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
the gawker deal is pretty much ridiculous because a) it means the author has bothered to read all the articles he claims to despise and b) it's barely readable sub-undergrad compare-and-contrast bullllllllshit. you think he'd have found better, more informative pull quotes if he'd dug 'em out of the Wire, the Believer and Rolling Stone? Doubtful.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess what i'm trying to say is: the problem is not with the publications particularly, but with a tendency towards laziness and easy questions in rock n roll journalism as a whole.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
the canonization of the subversive musician
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
there is nothing particularly subversive about neko case though, amirite? and why do people attach such importance to these musicians being profiled in mainstream, middle-brow publications? the mtn goats, oldham etc haven't been obscurities for many, many years now.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
apparently the neko case album debuted at #3? pretty weird to say 'only the write cares abt her' or whatever
― just sayin, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
*writer
and why do people attach such importance to these musicians being profiled in mainstream, middle-brow publications? the mtn goats, oldham etc haven't been obscurities for many, many years now.
― ian, Monday, March 16, 2009 11:30 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think that's exactly why -- cuz they have already established their own sort of relevance, and people get annoyed that these publications approach them like a sort of discovery. but the thing is, for a lot of people, they still are! it's kind of an audience issue.
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, March 16, 2009 11:23 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
well, yeah, this is absolutely true, and i acknowledge the subjectiveness of the argument being made in my post.
but there are very, very few publications out there where you can successfully pitch an editor on a story with just "hey, i love neko case, can i write an article about her?" (the ability to pitch like that probably has more to do with the writer him or herself--john mcphee, for example--than the publication). at the very least youre going to need "she has an album coming out"--and even then the editor is going to want more, since god knows how many people have albums out in a given month. arguably, case is big enough (#3 album etc) to warrant that kind of coverage--in fact, this is absolutely the case, since the writer was able to pitch the story to the editor successfully.
but then the article comes out and its structure is almost exactly the same as the structure of 3 other articles about musicians working in roughly the same melieu! and its like, what exactly is the threshold of 'interesting/informative/entertaining' here? if the pieces match so completely, is there really something interesting enough about the subjects to be worth writing about?
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
but there are very, very few publications out there where you can successfully pitch an editor on a story with just "hey, i love neko case, can i write an article about her?" (the ability to pitch like that probably has more to do with the writer him or herself--john mcphee, for example--than the publication). at the very least youre going to need "she has an album coming out"--and even then the editor is going to want more, since god knows how many people have albums out in a given month
The Gawker piece was awful, and this is the only defense for publishing Neko Case, Darnielle, and Bird articles in mass-market publications.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I do wish articles like the one in Gawker would stop impugning the motives of these writers, the quality of their essays notwithstanding. I like Neko Case, so if I worked for The New Yorker and knew she had an album coming out soon, I'd pitch an article. What's so hard to understand?
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
btw am i supposed to like know neko case? cuz apart from the name, i don't :/
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Next time you run over to Starbucks for a toffee bar, you'll know.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Neko is gonna be heartbroken, sur
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
smoky alt-country chanteuse, you might like her. in that new pornographesr band IIRC. xpxp
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 16, 2009 8:54 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
huh? it's pretty easy to understand that writing about an artist just because you like him/her and then reaching for other flimsy reasons/justifications in the article makes for bad/self-indulgent/puffy writing, no matter how ok of a stylist you are.
― Matt P, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
pls. notify me when someone does one of these pieces on xasthur or the ying yang twins or any artist that does not slot somewhere in comfortable singer-songwriter modes of expression.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean how is that not writing about "culture" 101
x-post
― Matt P, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
it's pretty easy to understand that writing about an artist just because you like him/her and then reaching for other flimsy reasons/justifications in the article makes for bad/self-indulgent/puffy writing, no matter how ok of a stylist you are.
You must not read much rock journalism then, eh?
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
lololololol @ the idea of someone writing a piece like this on xasthur
― POLLonius (country matters), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Better an emotive ode than a rehashed press release.
― Eazy, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i rarely post here, but i was thinking about the mg and bpb pieces a lot recently, so i felt compelled to jump in --
the nyer/nymag profiles bugged me because all they did was corroborate the same reputations of these guys that exists on the underground level, i.e. oldham: the "enigmatic," rootsy, shapeshifter and darnielle: the balance of hyperintimacy and cerebral detachment.
i don't mind major-mag profiles of these guys -- they totally deserve it. i just wish that the writers had done *some* kind of work to depart from what has already been written about the artists. the MGs one felt like a huge missed opportunity to actually do a little critical thinking about *why* darnielle's fans might love him so much (the superfan is a devout christian -- is it some kind of coincidence that darnielle actually writes about religious material and regularly lays down spiritual subtext in his songs about Normal Folks? duh.). also, for articles about "iconoclasts," they didn't really situate these guys within a landscape -- i.e. to say why they're different or unique. the nyer one was better, in this respect, but i still put the mag down wishing it had somehow been more "definitive" (this might be because i think kelefa s. really does write some good, concise criticism sometimes, and this piece, being a "profile," didn't seem to think that some criticism was within its jurisdiction or something).
― mike powell, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Remember the "Wait" controversy a few years ago?
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
that new york times article on DEATH (70's proto-punk hard rock african-american power trio) this weekend was excellent!
sorry, just didn't know where to post that. maybe on the black acid rock thread...
― scott seward, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
WHAT IS FURDEST FROM CDS I HAVE, HEAVY METAL AND HIPPITY HOP
many x-posts to alfred well yeah because by those standards a lot of it sucks! but some of it doesn't (i.e. does something else besides 'here is a person, they did some things, they play nice music'), and i like that.
― Matt P, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link
this i actually agree with heartily
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
this speaks to a larger trend of pigeonholing artists like this, with cliched terminology
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
A lot of these disappointing profiles are shaped by the attitude of editors too. A piece on Darnielle in New York would produce exactly the kind of collision of sensibilities we'd expect.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
not all music journalism can be good music journalism, guys.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
the MGs one felt like a huge missed opportunity to actually do a little critical thinking about *why* darnielle's fans might love him so much (the superfan is a devout christian -- is it some kind of coincidence that darnielle actually writes about religious material and regularly lays down spiritual subtext in his songs about Normal Folks? duh.).
From the article:
If Wesley’s explanation of Darnielle’s appeal isn’t especially complex, it’s certainly heartfelt: “His songs are all full of literary allusions and Bible references. Everything that I’m into, he writes about. A lot of them are about people feeling isolated, and I knew what that felt like.”
[...]
Wesley loved that while Darnielle wasn’t a practicing Christian, he still had an encyclopedic knowledge of the Bible. One day, Wesley played for me the song “Pigs That Ran Straightaway Into the Water, Triumph Of.” “That’s a reference to Matthew 22:6,” Wesley told me. “That’s where Jesus casts the demon into a herd of swine. That he can work that into a song is so cool.”
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
critic on critic jackoff sesh
― bnw, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
not specifically...was it about more than the content of the song? is there a new yorker profile of the YYT i need to track down?
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost, but did you just equate a fan's testimony with "critical thinking"? i mean, fan testimony is important, especially in an article about fandom, but i don't think that it should stand in for the writer's commentary.
― mike powell, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
the obv. explanation for why people wanna write profiles about me is because I am so impossibly attractive that once they've laid eyes on me they just can't help themselves
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean i'm kind of joking w/r/t xasthur or yyt but if these publications actually wanted to do something constructive they would indeed profile interesting musicians from outside the npr set or explain why metal is probably the most vital and interesting genre going these days or something. treating this "trend" as anything other than a back-pat affirmation to the 20- and 30-something readership that mags think they need to survive (lol not that it's going to make a difference) is kind of silly.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
dude described you as being "stocky"xpost
― velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
If I am reading a profile about ANY artist, the last thing I want to read is the writer's commentary.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
<3 john
treating this "trend" as anything other than a back-pat affirmation to the 20- and 30-something readership that mags think they need to survive (lol not that it's going to make a difference) is kind of silly.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population
i kind of agree with this, but again, maybe they're not targeting these articles toward the 20/30 readership set?
i dunno
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, March 16, 2009 1:08 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
why not just read the wikipedia article?
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm writing post replying to posts about an article about several articles about some musicians who wrote songs.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone who argues stocky ain't sexy has to take it up with me personally
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"stout" is the new sexy
― velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
If you are doing an essay analyzing the themes of a musician's lyrical output and how that relates to their fandom, then go right ahead, but that falls outside of what I would call an artist profile; sticking it into an artist profile tells me that you are more interested in showing people how smart you are than you are in writing about your subject.
xp: I often do. I've stated before that I think most music writing is useless.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
surm i try not to be much of a cynic but it's real hard not to see these as anything but a grab for younger readership. i would welcome ideas to the contrary.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, March 16, 2009 12:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark S
i'm not sure this is true!
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
;)
lol why are you even bothering then dan
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm bored
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
and avoiding work
i admire ur conviction that writing is about showing off how smart u are
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
It's true, though.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
nah
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Or rather, it's true of 90% of what I've seen in the past 10 years.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
that's why i have trouble reading the new yorker
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought people wrote because they got paid because to write about stuff they sometimes liked to talk about on their own, woops
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
it would help if i used grammar
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
talking was invented so people could impress potential mates by showing off how smart they are
― if you like it then you shoulda put a donk on it (bernard snowy), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i thought that's what showing yer junk was for
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i buy that a lot of internet music (and other) writing tends to come across as... show-offy, in some way. and maybe even a fair amount of music writing in print.
but surm it baffles me that you could think of the new yorker as show-offy in that same way! the magazines tone is so, um, even, or level--i dont understand how you could read it and think that its writers come off as trying to show off how smart they are!
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
It wouldn't be as annoying if the people doing it were all amazing writers, but since they aren't (and particularly since the nu-media revolution heavily promotes quantity of pieces over quality of pieces), well... you basically have The Legacy Of Pitchfork laid out for you, where people think it's valid to criticize a piece that is intentionally written as a moment-of-time meeting between an artist and one of his fans with biographical information about both that shows pretty clearly why the fan latched onto the artist because the author didn't spend enough time deconstructing the entirety of the artist's fanbase.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
although that isn't even fair, this has been going on way longer than Pitchfork has been around (see: Simon Reynolds)
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
j0hn needs to hook up with winona and be like IN YOUR FACE GAWKER LOSER
― bnw, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
otm
max i think i need to delve into it again now that ryan got us a subscription. haven't read it in a while, so i'm probably way off.
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
you might be thinking of people who read the new yorker and feel the need to show off how smart they are? see also: the economist.
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
If you keep a New Yorker on your coffee table, Surm, visitors to your home will assume you're Cultured.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I keep mine there because it saves money on coasters.
i generally don't have a huge problem with the new yorker (though i think the cartooning sucks, have virtually no use for the event listings etc, i can still usually find one or two things to read & enjoy per issue) i DO have a problem with people who read/carry/use the new yorker as a way of showing off how smart they are. xpxpxpxp otm
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
HI DERE: I think you would have a good point except that it's not really "a piece that is intentionally written as a moment-of-time meeting between an artist and one of his fans"; or rather, it is, but it dresses itself up as some kind of broader 'hey check out this crazy youth cultural phenomenon!' thing, and kind of rings hollow in that sense.
or in other words: given the choice between a good piece that would only be interesting to people who had heard of/cared about/were fans of the Mountain Goats, or a kinda-crappy piece that would have (slightly) broader appeal, this leans towards the second.
― if you like it then you shoulda put a donk on it (bernard snowy), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
btw while i DO think there are probably a lot of people who read the new yorker in a large part because it is a STATUS SYMBOL of some kind i think the number of people for whom that is the ONLY reason they read the magazine is VASTLY OVERESTIMATED--maybe this is because i am something of a nyer stan, but it is, for real, a REALLY GOOD MAGAZINE, and id like to believe that people read it because of its quality more than any other consideration
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i DO have a problem with people who read/carry/use the new yorker as a way of showing off how smart they are
how can you tell these people apart from those that "actually" like reading/carrying/using it
― mookieproof, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
yea, point taken re: the new yorkers' audience base (and the economist). ryan was reading it on the subway yesterday and i was afraid people would get the wrong idea! ;)
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
in fact it strikes me that oftentimes people read the new yorker both because it is a really good mag and also because it confers a certain kind of status on them--that maybe in fact these reasons are not as separate as we might like to think
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i smell a junior lit paper
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I think you would have a good point except that it's not really "a piece that is intentionally written as a moment-of-time meeting between an artist and one of his fans"; or rather, it is, but it dresses itself up as some kind of broader 'hey check out this crazy youth cultural phenomenon!' thing, and kind of rings hollow in that sense.
I don't think it does that at all. I think, if it has a broader point, it is saying, "fandom still exists and it hasn't changed".
I think it is a well-written, banal piece. I enjoyed reading it because I like the way the author wrote it but it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know about J0hn, the way some of his fans act, or the way fandom in general works. More to the point, I don't think it was trying to say anything new; it was trying to pull a human center out of a story that is simultaneously unremarkable and touching.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
this is my favorite part of the article... hey indie musician who built your fanbase through years of gigging and releasing albums, your persona is not appealing! plz leave this stuff to the pros who know how to blow it up, like katy perry.
John Darnielle is a wonderful songwriter and deserves many happy turns, but the cruel fact remains: On the scale at which New York usually operates, he is a commercially marginal musician. He is not about to blow up, nor will he soon appear in the pages of Us Weekly on the arm of Winona Ryder. He makes very, very good records that not very many people, relatively speaking, will ever hear. The same is true of Case, Oldham, and Bird. None of them feel compelled to do the things that actually famous musicians did in order to get famous, like create an appealing persona and deliver it to a fascinated reporter.
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i know, weird right?
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
so, indie musicians don't care about their persona, or their cultural relevance.
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
He is not about to blow up, nor will he soon appear in the pages of Us Weekly on the arm of Winona Ryder.
we all know how this worked out for dave pirner. wtf john?
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i was gonna say "he'd have a point if he replaced 'create an appealing persona' with 'take your shirt off' and 'fascinated reporter' with 'lad mag'" but neko case has done that.
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
xp yeah but wasn't it presented as "The complex bond between the Mountain Goats’ John Darnielle and his sensitive fans," and didn't it make plenty of generalizations about people who listen to him? i have no huge problem with sociological inferences or broad statements (if it seems like the writer was thinkin'), but i wasn't sure if i was supposed to be reading about all MG fans, this one MG fan, or this one MG fan as a representation of all MG fans.
― mike powell, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
what should musicians do in order to get famous?
a) create an appealing persona and deliver it to a fascinated reporterb) make good music
sigh... I expected so much more from a site named gawker
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i can't bring myself to read gawker, in general.
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
i like gawker for the most part
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
gawker has become a whole hell of a lot less fun since new york media started getting bulldozed.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
look max, you're not gonna turn me into a new yorker readin, gawking 25yr old OK?
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
:P
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
last time I saw Neko was at this tiny sold out club called Irving Plaza.
― bnw, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
look, if she gets famous it's because she finally figured out how to make her persona more appealing to fascinated reporters, while oldham, bird, and darnielle remain sitting in their tearstained undies puzzling over the rubik's cube that is worldwide renown in the 2009.
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
i actually really liked the oldham article.
i mean i get what the gawker thing was saying about the sort of cliched "oh we hung out thing" but oldham has been so evasive for so long it WAS actually kind of a big deal for his long time fans....plus, the whole thing with the weird concert down by the lake was super rad i thought....him havign a "work house" and a "sleep house", stuff like that was fascinating...his mom seemed cool.
― brother marquis (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
and just to one-up y'all in the "writing about neko case apparently makes writers turn retarded"...here is one from the new newsweek....manages to one up that racial miscengeny one with the weirdo claim that in 2009 Neko Case has returned melody in "alternative rock"...wresting it from the hands of noiseniks like....nirvana....and...green day? hed asspllode
― brother marquis (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.newsweek.com/id/187782
Acts such as Bon Iver, Iron & Wine and Antony and the Johnsons have been bringing pretty back, to paraphrase Justin Timberlake.
i hate this so much.
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
...right now.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 March 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
But whereas Kurt Cobain once felt the need to hide affection for R.E.M. from his underground peers lest he be booted from their secret society, today's alternative acts no longer look at melody as the love that dare not speak its name.
Cobain was so terrified of this secret society that he confessed this affection in the noted indie zine Rolling Stone.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm trying to figure out whether j0hn will be mortified or honored that we are using this thread to mock a) mainstream coverage of corny indie fuxx0rs and b) those who mock mainstream coverage of corny indie fuxx0rs
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I enjoyed the attention of the New York piece, but really, I demand my Newsweek piece immediately, and it has to be super-long with sidebars and plenty of pictures
and the cover, I want the cover
http://www2.warnerbros.com/willywonka/img/gallery/wonkpic8.jpg
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
i want a party with roomfuls of laughterten thousand tons of ice creaaaaam
― Mr. Que, Monday, 16 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
this makes me so happy today
― fuck bein hard, BIG HOOS is complicated (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
J0hn, trust me. You REALLY don't want to be drawing attention to Veruca Salt here.
― meta pro lols (libcrypt), Monday, 16 March 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
ok how about freddie then
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 16 March 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
disappointed that "He looks more or less like the rest of the assembled Mountain Goats faithful, a cross section of earnest young poet boys, geeky music-philes, and self-styled off-the-grid types carrying messenger bags—nearly a thousand of whom have gathered here tonight to bathe in Darnielle’s light" wasn't followed with a "if I can't piss on my fans, I don't want to be famous" quote.
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
we need to create an uber-ma+m0s fan as article bait
― mookieproof, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
i saw a fan go up to oldham with the "you're such a genius" shtick, it was really awkward until the guy asked if he knew where the bathroom was and oldham said "so you really like my music and you gotta take a piss?"
― bnw, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm trying to think of any examples of music profiles, other than Bill Buford's dirty-fighting takedown of Lucinda Williams, that don't just perpetuate the image the musician has already created a la written equivalent of an Annie Liebovitz photo.
― Eazy, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link
That's why they're called "profiles" and not "exposes".
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
point taken
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i remember some rolling stone article in the 90s where they sort of went into detail abt what a fraud they thought eddie vedder was
― just sayin, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
fuckin guy doesn't even WEAR flannel.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.field.ca/images/large/mountaingoat_lg.jpg
― eman, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
In fact, profiles of super-cool independent musicians in mass-market consumer magazines almost inevitably turn out to be cringe-inducing, forced exercises in justifying the relevance of an artist that often doesn't really care about being relevant to begin with.
My usual problem with them, actually -- and this applies to some but not all of the pieces in question -- is that they're so often written by people who don't cover music.
That's not inherently a bad thing, depending on who you are. Most of these articles aren't really aimed at people who'd know or care a ton about the artist to begin with -- they're taking well-known figures from the music world and (often) hiring the feature and profile writers already in their address books to introduce those figures to a broader audience. (I have faith that there are plenty of music writers who could produce great magazine-style profiles; I assume they're just not always in the loop of the general-interest publications that run such things.)
But like someone said above, it does often turn into a case of a culture writer sort of parroting received wisdom about the artist in between gushing about how moved they are by the music, and how fascinated they are by the musician. They explain the mythology of the artist in ways that those in the artist's field have already started complicating. They make the artist's "cult-like" status sound like something particularly magical, whereas people who follow such things tend to be aware that the same article could be written about any number of the artist's peers. And in a lot of cases, it can lead to odd bits of misinformation, or semi-misleading emphasis of information, or the taking for granted of claims about music that a music writer would (hopefully) be more curious or critical about.
The one that most got me on this front was the Andrew Bird article, which contained claims like this:
He had lost interest in classical concertos, but he couldn’t relate to the stark, self-consciously simplistic sound of the post-punk scene that flourished in Chicago in the 1990s.
I'm not even sure what this is referring to: Chicago's popular alt-rock bands? the Chicago no-wave hardly anyone listened to? a 90s Chicago that contained no post-rock? This might seem like a nit-pick -- it is, really -- but it's the sort of thing I come across and don't understand why I couldn't be reading the same piece as written by someone who has enough connection with the material to unpack these things ... as opposed to what seems like a magazine guy who just happens to like Andrew Bird a lot:
Jonathan Mahler is a contributing writer. His most recent book is “The Challenge: Hamdan v. Rumsfeld and the Fight Over Presidential Power.”
I don't mean this to sound elitist, though I suppose it might technically qualify. It's just that ... I get the sense it's a lot harder for music critics to pitch stories about Hamdan v. Rumsfeld than it is for people to go in the opposite direction, and I'm not sure editors know some of the things that go wrong with the pieces that result.
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link
^^those kind of "exposes" are bullshit imo because yeah it's usually at the level of just that xxp
― The Prices are .......... VERY AFFORDABLE!!! (omar little), Monday, 16 March 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
that goat is stocky
― velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I think he's referring to the post-punk Lounge Ax/Touch & Go scene circa 1999.
― Eazy, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Wait, Eazy, you're being sarcastic, right?
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
um, that's what i assume the writer is referring to
― Mr. Que, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean that as early as 2000 he was getting booked by Billions, and the particular music scene he was around at the time was making music that played against the strengths of what he was doing.
― Eazy, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
(But he was also pretty much part of the Hideout/alt-country world here in Chicago, played at a Doug Sahm tribute at Lounge Ax, and toured with Neko and others around that time, so he wasn't an ostracized guy at all; just didn't fit into what Billions and T&G were championing at the time.)
― Eazy, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
andrew bird, comfortably splitting the difference between concertos and simplistic chicago post-punk.
― He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 March 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't understand how it would make sense to posit it as some formative thing that Bird wasn't attracted to the "flourishing" of a small group of Chicago post-punk bands.
xpost - by the way, we're talking about the mid-90s here
Honestly, I'm pretty sure that sentence is the writer's (non-music-jargony) way of referring to the alt-rock at the Metro, which it might make sense for Bird to react to. And I suspect the writer isn't otherwise aware that there was plenty of flourishing of complicated music on non-rock instruments happening in Chicago at exactly that moment. I suspect Andrew Bird told the writer he felt alienated from the rock/punk stuff going on in the city at the time, and the writer then assembled a sentence that made Bird sound, somewhat romantically, like a lone dissenter or misfit in a rock scene. Which makes for nice copy, but doesn't seem like a complete claim at all.
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
that's not what the writer is saying. the writer is saying (as I read it) Bird wasn't interested in concertos, and he wasn't interested in Tar/Shellac whatever etc etc
― Mr. Que, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, a lot of Chicago bands around him were fitting in with the sound of the labels here at the time: so there were Bloodshot bands, Touch & Go bands, and Thrill Jockey bands. What he was doing didn't fit in with those, and he was never on a local label, unlike a lot of his peers at the time.
― Eazy, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, guys: keep in mind that this is a general-interest article written by someone who doesn't appear to write about music.
Que, the sentence is organized to suggest, pretty strongly, that the stark/simplistic "post-punk" that Bird couldn't relate to was somehow the dominant Chicago scene -- that it was the sound that "flourished" in 90s Chicago, leaving Bird somewhat romantically trapped between his concertos and the rock kids.
Now, no matter what we think he's referring to, or what elements of felt truth there might have been in that, we're talking about an era in Chicago where one major thing that was "flourishing" involved like Jim O'Rourke making pop and the Sea and Cake and such, so the suggestion that Andrew Bird was somehow an outcast from the mainstream of the scene seems really odd to me (even before the Bloodshot/Hideout stuff comes into view).
I'd reiterate that this is a non-music journalist in the NYT Magazine -- I really don't know that he himself exactly has Shellac in mind. Like I said, my guess is that a general expression on Bird's part of not being able to relate to some rock scene has just slipped onto the page, making for nice copy, without the writer's thinking: wait, was that the main scene happening at the time? Is anything else missing from this picture?
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
i think you're totally overthinking it. i think Shellac and the Sea and Cake and Jim O can all fall under post-punk/simplistic label (esp. if you're, as you say, a NY Times writer who doesn't write about music all that much) without too much trouble.
― Mr. Que, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
ay yi yi, this thread. Happy Birthday, John! Hahahahahaha!
― scott seward, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
O'Rourke records are too "stark" for Andrew Bird to relate to???
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/mountaingoats090309_3_560.jpg<3 this pic haha
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
who is this andrew bird character anyway? someone i should have heard of? (not gonna read the nyt piece.)
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
hes a squirrel nut zipper
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
more like andrew turd
― velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
is he related to larry bird
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
he's good, you might like him. violin, loops and experimental vox. i hear the new one is good.
― Surmounter, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
but does he poo clouds?
― scott seward, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
a quick gis reveals him to be DASHING, even when disheveled.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
he does poo clouds, yes. pretty sick.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
― velko, Monday, March 16, 2009 4:29 PM
like his fanbase ;)
― eman, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway, though, I'll try not to belabor the one sentence -- I just get this sense, when general-interest writers do these musician profiles, that certain impressions go wrong somewhere in the translation; probably the same way science buffs feel about science articles. (There are other details in the Bird piece that seemed odd to me: some fretting about playing large venues when I'm pretty sure he's played larger; some of the obligatory wrap-up conclusions; little profile details about songwriting process that seem like they'd be true for half of the musicians you talked to, etc.)
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
― bnw, Monday, March 16, 2009 4:05 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark
I like to think that this fan views oldham as some all-powerful all-knowing oracle who can answer any query at hand
"will, what's the population of guam?""will, where will I go when I die?""will, where did I park my car?"
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=53098479
Jeremy Mar 3, 2009 4:05 PM
More like Andrew Turd.
― eman, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
― velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/MountainGoat08.jpg
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco's totally right, btw -- general-interest profiles of musicians often get things slightly or totally wrong. it has been thus forever. right?
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
mountain goats are pretty amazing looking! wow.
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
http://https%3A//www.abugames.com/images/products/5thedition/mountaingoat.jpg
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://mtg.windswalk.com/images/set_en/PT/146.jpg
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://mtg.windswalk.com/images/set_en/5E/252.jpg
how about: journalists get things slightly or totally wrong all the time etc etc etc
― Mr. Que, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.irreplaceablewild.org/media/gallery/mountaingoat.jpg
― Mr. Que, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
srsly i don't think anyone is disputing the idea that journalists often write inaccurate or biased pieces. for a wide variety of reasons! ignorance or self-indulgence are only two of many possibilities.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i am def gonna get some curry goat for dinner btw.
how about: journalists get things slightly or totally wrong all the time etc etc etcnah, don't think that's true ... (kidding: yes.)
― tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/mountaingoats090309_3_560.jpghttp://www.huntinglodgesale.com/images/Mountain-Goat-Hunting.jpg
― velko, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/03/the_mountain_go.php
How funny, I happen to be an 30yr old obsessed Mountain Goats fan and former Juggalo, the two are not that far apart
Posted by: hanuman at March 3, 2009 2:41 PM
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I think what's odd to me about it in these cases is that I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who could write excellent general-audience profiles of Bird, from a perspective that's maybe more in the music field, most of them probably cheaper than regular NYT Mag contributors -- but that gap doesn't get filled often, does it? Beyond like SFJ and Kelefa and a few newspaper people. It's not that I think music can only be written about my music writers, but it always feels like there's an unnecessary disconnect on this front, a weird lack of bridging between the music realm and the general-audience stuff.
― nabisco, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
can we all at least agree that without getting into the validity of not of the gawker article that it reads like it was written by a child?
― a thread for clams that you are free to disregard (jjjusten), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
it = the gawker article
dan's lying about his age, now?
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
the only similarity i see between mtn goats and insane clown posses is that they are both jesus lovers.
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
also both claim to have eaten dead bodies
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
TS: The Sunset Tree Vs. The Riddle Box
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
by virtue of being churchgoers, or something more sinister? xp
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
What is a mountain goat?Lemme think for a second. (well? )Oh, he gets butt naked.And then he walks through the street winkin at freaks,Wit a two-liter stuck in his butt-cheeks!What is a mountain goat?He just dont care.He might try to put a weave in his nut hair.Cuz he could give a fuck less what a bitch thinks,He tell her that her butt stinks, and all that,What is a mountain goat?He drinks like a fish,And then he starts huggin people like a drunk bitch,Next thing hes pickin fights with his best friends,Then he starts with the huggin again, fuck,What is a mountain goat?A fuckin lunatic.Somebody with a rope tied to his dick,Then he jumps out a ten-story windowéééoh!(chorus:)What is a mountain goat?A mountain goat? if thats what it is, well fuck if I know.What is a mountain goat?I dont know, but Im down with the clown, and Im down for life, yo.(end chorus)(chorus)(vocal breakdown)What is a mountain goat?A dead body.Well he aint really dead, but he aint like anybodyThat youve ever met before.Hell eat monopoly and shit out connect four.What is a moun-What the fuck? connec-man, that shits wack.Dont worry bout my shit, just rap, mutha fucker.What is a mountain goat?He aint a bitch boy.Hell walk through to the hills and beat down a rich boy.Walks right in the house where ya havin supper,And dip his nuts in ya soupéébloop!What is a mountain goat?Well he aint a phoney.Hell walk up and bust a nut in your macaroni.And watch you sit there and finish up the last bit,Cuz youre a stupid-ass dumb fuckin idiot.What is a mountain goat?Hes a graduate.He graduated from......well,At least hes got a job, hes not a dumb putz,He works for himself scratchin his nuts, ha!What is a mountain goat?A hulkamaniac.He powerbombs mutha fuckas into thumbtacks. (bwa!)People like him till they find out hes unstable.He sabued ya mama through a coffee table. (oh my god!)(chorus)(vocal breakdown)(chorus)(chorus)(vocal breakdown)What is a mountain goat?
― a thread for clams that you are free to disregard (jjjusten), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
both stab people
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty certain i just ensured that i will never be on the J0hn D christmas card list
― a thread for clams that you are free to disregard (jjjusten), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
what are you even talking about, you just bought yourself lifetime guest list
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
What is a mountain goat?He just dont care.
HELLO FALL 2009 TOUR SHIRT
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
J0hn, I posted a birthday song/lyric on your Facebook, do I get lifetime +1 guest list also?
― ilxor, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
referring to the Mountain Goats on my facebook gets you barred from the door forever, actually
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link
it's been a ban-ner week for our man ilxor
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Dang it.
― ilxor, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
After reading this article, I had a brief, worrying flash of "Oh god, do I just enjoy the Mountain Goats because they're some weird cult that has sprung up to replace Phish?"
It also didn't help that I downloaded a live show from archive.org and there was some background audience chatter. You can hear a guy saying "Oh yeah, they played that last night in Philly" or something
I 've never been to one of their concerts, but if it turns out that j)hn has a bitchin' light show, I'm really going to have to stop listening to his music.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link
None of them feel compelled to do the things that actually famous musicians did in order to get famous, like create an appealing persona and deliver it to a fascinated reporter.
Like, oh, Amy Winehouse?
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4774/amyw.png
― meta pro lols (libcrypt), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
laura says the NYC show this past Friday night was amazingly acoustic and intimate.
― Surmounter, Monday, 30 March 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
No one commented on the use of "stannery" in that Voice response article?
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 March 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey J0hn you should book a show in MN on this tour.
― no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Monday, 30 March 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
stannery o'connor
― I'm the head soul brother in the US. Where to now? (bernard snowy), Monday, 30 March 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit how did I miss that epic MG/ICP interpolation
― BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Monday, 30 March 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Hay no worries, jjjusten, I fixed that typo for you.
― ilxor, Monday, 30 March 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually...
Hey J0hn you should book a show in MN TX on this tour.
Better.
*ducks*
This new one really is amazing. Right up there with the best of them for me.
― toby, Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Having trouble remembering the song titles, of course, but the Ezekiel one is particularly remarkable.
― toby, Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
will be interesting to see how they translate to a live beatdown experience
― kevision questler (country matters), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
^^
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i love "genesis 3:23"
― k3vin k., Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
v. excited for first Mountain Goats show in Madison since I don't know when
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
v excited for the Boston show as I've never been in the Wilbur Theatre before
― "So messy!" (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
excited to be beaten within an inch of my life at the cedar cultural center
― A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
FINALLY
yeah, i've missed the MGs in madison like three times before. but now my gf is a huge fan, so i've got tickets.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
xp: your beatings bingo card will at last be full
― "So messy!" (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I am annoyed that I am missing a Boston show for the second time this year (I get back from a week away about an hour after the show will end, and I missed Somerville for similar reasons).
― toby, Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
And I missed Zoop in exactly the same fashion. A year of failing to see the Mountain Goats, basically.
perhaps you can arrange for a mail order beatdown
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Looking forward to the ATX show. Is this already out??
― both HOOSlarious and truthful (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
early October I think?
― A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
10.06.09.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Pitchfork: How's it going?
John Darnielle: I'm doing pretty good. Actually, I don't know if you're aware of this-- the album leaked today.
Pitchfork: I was not aware of that.
JD: Yeah. A few years ago that would have been, (gruff voice) "Oh no." But I live in the real world. It kind of takes a little pressure off when the album leaks.
Pitchfork: So are they going to start selling it online early or anything?
JD: No, no. Any thoughts I have about that stuff are just clod-talk. My stance on that stuff is that I have all sorts of weird ideas, and if I say something and somebody wants to run with it, that's cool. But I pretty much just focus on making the records-- unless I'm self-releasing them, then I do my own thing. But at some point, you have to stop worrying about chains of distribution or it takes out of your time to write.
Pitchfork: Have you been getting a lot of texts about the album today?
JD: Yeah. (laughs) There's a person in my chat list-- I don't know who they are, they only appear by screen name, but the chorus to the second song of the album suddenly popped up as their status. (laughs) "Oh, well, I'll be damned. It must be out there."
Pitchfork: That's one way to find out.
― thomp, Thursday, 10 September 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha
― both HOOSlarious and truthful (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 10 September 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
This is awesome, btw. I had "1 Samuel 15:23" on repeat for like an hour last night
― both HOOSlarious and truthful (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 18 September 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Looking forward to this. It's going to get me to read as least 12 passages from the Bible.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 September 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
This is his best album since The Sunset Tree.
― vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 September 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yahweh was his c0-writer.
― M.V., Friday, 18 September 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yet another mountain goats album that i can't find anything bad to say about
matthew 25:21 is really powerful
― extremely demanding on the hardware (ciderpress), Sunday, 27 September 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the genesis one with just piano is killer
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, that one was called Get Lonely. It came out in 2006 and it is his best album.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Haven't heard the new one yet (lol @ waiting for release day), but really looking forward to it and will def. be at the ATX show in November.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG, j0hn you asshole. Thanks for nearly reducing me to tears twice on my drive home last night. Its been a long, long time since I've had such a raw response to recorded music. "Matthew 25:21" hit me pretty hard, which makes sense given then subject matter, but I was not at all prepared for "Genesis 3:23" which hit me like a punch in the gut and I'm still not quite sure why.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
No.
― Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
bought the new one for my gf the other day, she's a big MGs fan.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
you're always good value on indie rock threads, jordan
― thomp, Friday, 9 October 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 9 October 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Has anybody heard the "Life of the World in Flux?" I.E. should I pay tons extra and wait for this album to come in the mail w/ extra demo CD, or just go to the record store and buy the regular version now?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 October 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know, I didn't even know that version existed until after I'd already bought the regular album.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, that one was called Get Lonely. It came out in 2006 and it is his best album.No.― Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
― Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
Listen again -- with ears this time, perhaps.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 9 October 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Flux is good but inessential and not worth the difference in money to the US IMHO. You should run out and get the album now because it is fantastic, right up there with anything else by TMG for me at the moment.
― toby, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Was cool seeing TMGs on Colbert a couple days ago.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 October 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Get Lonely is a personal favorite, but it doesn't have the variety or the brazen power of Sunset or Tallahassee or the new one imo.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 10 October 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
tMG are pretty close to edging out Wilco as my favorite band.
― kshighway1, Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, fuck: "Ezekiel 7 and the Permanent Efficacy of Grace"? "Ezekiel 7 and the Permanent Efficacy of Grace"!
I can still vaguely remember buying Get Lonely at a local Newbury Comics, either the day it came out or really soon after that. Summer 2006. Summer 2007 I bought The Sunset Tree, thought it was one of the most amazing records I had ever heard with one of the best closing songs I had ever heard. Heretic Pride I got soon after it came out. Then this one, day of.
I seriously just heard the album version of "The Best Ever Death Metal Band In Denton" a few days ago, and I can't stop playing it. Holy shit, what a song.
― kshighway1, Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, dudes, I don't think I've ever heard a band that better captures lived human experience than tMG. It's not just the uncannily accurate, affecting, and unsurpassed lyrics but also the preciseness of the music itself. I'm not being articulate here, but I know what I mean.
― kshighway1, Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
"Denton" is a prime example of the MG using hieratic language to turn the mundane into the epic. It's a device they use to terrific effect.
― Cunga, Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Lol at ppl referring John as "they" as though he were some high deity. The Great One Who Is Also The Infinite Many.
― Big King Buggle Sprayer (╓abies), Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I realize TMG is plural etc., it's cute is all.
― Big King Buggle Sprayer (╓abies), Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, I count Hughes and Wurster too. :-)
― kshighway1, Saturday, 10 October 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone going to the QEH show tonight?
― surfing on hokusine waves (ledge), Saturday, 10 October 2009 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Awesome.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/l-dogg/3991961280/
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 10 October 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yes, very awesome
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Saturday, 10 October 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Brilliant!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I love that it was pretty much impossible for Colbert to act like he wasn't a huuuuuuge fan.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
J0hn FYI I will give you a crispy extra $5 bill if you cover "Charlene (I'm Right Behind You)" at the Atlanta show:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/59061/february-09-2006/charlene--i-m-right-behind-you-
― sunn o))) successor (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Polite request, please to upload to youtube for us poor Brits who can't see it, and don't want to risk any dodgy rapidshare sites.
― go in go hard brother (Billy Dods), Saturday, 10 October 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
likin the album
― see it sounds really lame if you say it in parentheses: (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 12 October 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, so i haven't heard this yet, but in case you didn't get the memo: WE SHALL ALL BE HEALED is the best fuckin MGs album. i think about songs on that album and start getting teary-eyed.
― my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
but then again, i've been a recovering drug addict, so this is me speaking.
― my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I (relatively) recently discovered, and am really enjoying, the early discs.
The modified lyrics on The Commodores' Sail On are powerful.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 13 October 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG yes yes yes daniel, excellent observation.
― my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Front cover of new record looks like U2 record, inner cover looks like They Might Be Giants record.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Anybody going to the Metro tonight?
― stingy, Thursday, 5 November 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I believe J0hn was going.
― StanM, Thursday, 5 November 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Get well J0hnny D
― 9-1 never forget (a hoy hoy), Monday, 23 November 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 November 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I see the furthest into Florida the Mountain Goats were going to go is Orlando and St. Augustine. South Florida is -- generally -- such a wasteland for good rock shows. It's too far down into the penninsula for a lot of acts to do a show here, then drive to other good venues. Easier for them to do shows up near the panhandle, then drive to other Southern states.
Sorry to gripe. Get well, obv.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 23 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
saw the atx show last week and dude seemed on and fiery as ever, but did say he felt mad sick. was hoping it was a quick bug!
get well soon dude
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
sad to see mr. darnielle is sick. get well soon
― lukevalentine, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
:( that sucks! his voice was giving him trouble after the Atlanta show.
― berberbrebreerbbrerberereerb (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
well the dude plays like 20-25 songs a night, and performs them ferociously, and he's been on tour for like 2 months now or something...pretty heroic effort tbh
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
hope it doesn't stop him touring in the future, i really wanna see teh MGs one day.
― 9-1 never forget (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
aw man there were totally about 5 or 6 spare seats bookable the day before his QEH gig - almost an entire row obviously pulled out
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
well the dude plays like 20-25 songs a night, and bleats them wildly
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
and he's been fleeing an ever-rising tree-line for 2 months now
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/men-who-stare-at-goats.jpg
― berberbrebreerbbrerberereerb (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/7/2009/11/500x_clpersonal.jpg
― max, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
TMG playg one $5 gig in NY if you know where to look
― Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Woot posting from the mezzanine, show in t-5
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Monday, 30 November 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Just FYI, holy shit @ Final Fantasy
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Monday, 30 November 2009 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
aw man wish i was there!
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Monday, 30 November 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
You should have been there, it was fucking CHOICE
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Monday, 30 November 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm glad that these Mtn. Goats shows are turning people on to Final Fantasy!
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Monday, 30 November 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
dan settin me right in this situation :(
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Monday, 30 November 2009 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I was surprised how much I liked FF!
― unban everyone tbh (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 30 November 2009 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link
lol that sounds bad - I mean I was expecting something decent in the first place, but the performance was seriously killer
― unban everyone tbh (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 30 November 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i was surprised how much i liked FF, and i went in expecting to hate them
― NAKES HAVE THE STAPLES IN THEM (jjjusten), Monday, 30 November 2009 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link
had not heard album, all the local paper buzz was talking about dudes involvement in arcade fire to which ick
― NAKES HAVE THE STAPLES IN THEM (jjjusten), Monday, 30 November 2009 07:20 (fourteen years ago) link
he put on a great show at the kitchen in nyc last year
― max, Monday, 30 November 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
posts to ilx from time to time iirc
Wanted: Mountain Goats All Hail West Texas on Vinly (Palmer)
I am looking to get my girlfriend The Mountain Goats "All Hail West Texas" on vinly. only on vinlt format. please help!! also.. if you have any of the rarer records from bright eyes, modest mouse, neutral milk hotel, xiu xiu, let me know! my email is br#ttr*bert%haw@ya&oo.com
Location: Palmer it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
brett bert haw
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
mmm...vinly.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
ts: vinly vs dobly
― blarinet (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
mmm...vinly.― scott seward, Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― scott seward, Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
The vinlt is far tastier, and healthier for you, to boot.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.enflower.org/images/vinly-snake_49.jpg
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When I saw it I was fully convinced of its working but it is striking my mind that will the horror last longer?
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
How is this not a sex spam subject line.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i can hear john singing this line actually:
"When I saw it I was fully convinced of its working but it is striking my mind that will the horror last longer?"
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link
lollll
― what u think i steen for to push a crawfish? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
there are rare neutral milk hotel records? besides that one single?
― ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah--good ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― max, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Am I the only one who can't stand John Darnielle's voice or his lyrics?
The music's pretty good, though.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I myself am a fan, but there isn't a single thing around here anyone can agree on so you probably aren't alone.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Thursday, 17 December 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I think it is generally accepted that there aren't enough dinosaurs in the lyrics.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 December 2009 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess voices are personal preference, but i think JD's is more than adequate and a great pair with the music. but anyone that can write a "no children" - maybe the most scathing lyrics re: a doomed relationship ever, is bloody brilliant in my book
― controlled noise pollution (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/episode/2095-the-mountain-goats/1
hawttt
― living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
y'all seen the TV ad for Rhapsody in which a woman is reminded of a Mountain Goats song when bringing her man a cup of coffee in the morning?
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
my wife actually pointed it out to me
― living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i saw that! i was like hellz yeah j0hn get ya money! congrats!
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
sellout imo -- what's next, shilling for Vinly Scare Snakes?
― tylerw, Monday, 11 January 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i think that song played on p-fork is already one of the most recognisable mg songs going - it sticks in the brain, y'know
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Fucking awesome!
― kshighway (ksh), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
^
― Miss Bannister (╓abies), Monday, 11 January 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
oh hey guess who's on late night w/ jimmy fallon tonight
― DANGER: DO NOT EAT SHAMELESS DONG (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link
!
― mage pit laceration (gbx), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link
The Mountain Roots
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Qu3stl0v3
― fuckin never was funny ― miley stylus (Whiney G. Weingarten) (jeff), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link
CONFESSION TIME
that was the first mountain goats song that i've ever heard and it was awesome
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha so i guess it's ilx night on NBC since the xx is on Carson daly
man mtn goat band is so so tight
― DANGER: DO NOT EAT SHAMELESS DONG (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Considering the xx just placed 7th on Pazz and Jop, I don't think ILX has any special claim to them.
― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:40 (fourteen years ago) link
*Applause*
― Megadeth Panel (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, what a really fantastic performance! they sounded great.
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
wau
― mookieproof, Monday, 3 May 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
ha i just came here 2 post that
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
going to
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
interesting little day over at Dennis Cooper's blog:
http://denniscooper-theweaklings.blogspot.com/2010/07/mark-doten-aka-nmtk-presents-not.html
― The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 July 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
so THATS what happened to mark doten
way to go dude
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Sunday, 18 July 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't get it -- I know Mark Doten, but what is NMTK?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 18 July 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure it's the same mark doten I went to HS with afaik
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
wait, waht
another HHS grad done good!
― HI DERE, Sunday, 18 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Mountain Goats coming here on my 21st birthday!
― christopher dullan (Tape Store), Friday, 6 August 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link
j0rdan, you're coming too!
― christopher dullan (Tape Store), Friday, 6 August 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link
we sold out of tallahassee, had to re-stock before the weekend.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 7 August 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link
woah
― Trip Maker, Saturday, 7 August 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
tape store is so young ;_;
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Tapey are you in Florida?
― Janet Privacy Control (corey), Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
We are in Missooourah.
― Trip Maker, Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Ohh
― Janet Privacy Control (corey), Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Mountain goat 'kills hiker'
― conrad, Sunday, 17 October 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
oh darnielle, what hast thou wrought?
― once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Monday, 18 October 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Rangers later killed the goat, which was known for its aggressive behaviour.
― ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Monday, 18 October 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
mod with no sense of humor imo
― Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link
underrated aerosmith fans i have gored
― jeezy and the ayy-dog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 October 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
this fucking goat
― some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 18 October 2010 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link
in the past rangers had tried "hazing" the ram - inducing it to be frightened of people - by shooting it with bean bags and throwing rocks.[. . .]After goring the hiker the goat stood over him, and had to be pelted with rocks by a ranger before finally moving away.
― Our society and culture has put rock music on the backburner (bernard snowy), Monday, 18 October 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link
loooooool
― ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Monday, 18 October 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2010/10/18/image6968984g.jpg
― http://tinyurl.com/whitepony (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Sarah Silverman: Dear The Mountain Goats, Someday can I come onstage and sing the harms to No Children that I sing in my car?
O_o
― String Yr BLOBs (bnw), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Erik Rutan!? Dude!
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
o shit
― just sayin, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Seriously, wow. Just saw that. Amazing.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
O___O AWESOME
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha a life's dream realized
― youtubular bells (Edward III), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
take a bow, Preston Bernstein
― Princess BigSam (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i take it all the guys from enslaved were busy?
j/k
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
What a great holiday present!
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
wow!
― original bgm, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
so wait
preston bernstein notwithstanding, this is p.obviously not gonna be 'a death metal album', right?
― unemployed aerosmith fans I have shoved (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Describing the album, Darnielle writes, "If you have ever watched say a 70s occult-scare movie where one of the scenes involves a few people visiting a storefront fortune teller, getting their cards read, and then trying to feel super-hopeful about their predicted outcome when what they're visibly actually feeling is dread, then you have a pretty decent idea of what the album is all about." He elaborates, "Other possible points of reference include 'Burnt Offerings,' 'Go Ask Alice,' and that one scene in 'The Warriors' where they're on the train and the sun's coming up and they're safe but you know the scars are permanent now."
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
that's not how death metal 'feels' to me but admittedly I'm not an aficionado
― unemployed aerosmith fans I have shoved (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i got all geeked out thx to the burnt offerings ref because im a loser like that
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
ha me too and I'm wondering if he means alice sweet alice instead of go ask alice
― youtubular bells (Edward III), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Yea, John Darnielle twittered it wasn't going to have any death metal on it.
― Ryan, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
underrated tweets I have read
― buzza, Thursday, 9 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
underrated morbid angel guitarists i have collaborated with
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
You all have a goal.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cast-The-Mountain-Goats-on-Law-and-Order-SVU/179404355425761
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
misread as "what can i say, i am high"
― enfuque (Matt P), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i support this.
― mekka lekka hi mega-hiney hoes (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Matt so did I the other day haha.
― 1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I listened to Zopilote Machine today at work.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, 13 January 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
so, on Letterman tonight
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
oh cool!
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
hope it is a black metal jam with paul shaffer
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
or batting practice w/ Hank Aaron
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I love that I can record this from my phone
― DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Well this is exciting!
― Odult Ariented Rock (Ówen P.), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
hoping that franklin bruno will yell "SWAG" into the camera
― "Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Coming up shortly on the East Coast broadcast, yes?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, imminently after Hank Aaron.
Man, Dave has Rand Paul on tomorrow, imagine if the MGs had been on that one instead... fun green room.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link
For a second I'd forgotten that Congress was on break and was wondering what the hell Rand Paul was doing on Letterman instead of eating dead babies to bring down the budget or whatever the guy does.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Obv ned has not seen the smoking gun Rand Paul rider expose
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link
coming on in 1 min......!
hoping he'll bust out "song for tura satana" or a darkthrone cover or something
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Spent whole song thinking that song was awesome and coveting electric guitar dudes amazing rising sun strat!
Also uh bel biv devoe is on Jimmy Fallon wtf
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link
^ haa, the rest of New Edition were touring here last month but cancelled. bbd must have seen a gap in the market!
― yesterday's twat (sic), Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I never expected to type these words but this bel biv devoe live performance is fucking great
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 February 2011 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link
never expected to read those words on a mountain goats thread
― ledge, Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link
really enjoyed the new song! altho i was also pretty overwhelmed by the meta- ness of the moment ("let the camera / pull back" as I'm staring into the screen with laser focus; from california to iowa to letterman...)
― on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this new song was v nice
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
new song on letterman was really really great, jd spit some lyrical darts as per usual.
hooking up with wurster was one of the best things to happen to the goats musically.
― he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
my primary assoc w/ Wurster these days is 'a Tom Scharpling comedy partner'
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
for those who missed:
http://pitchfork.com/news/41677-watch-the-mountain-goats-hit-letterman
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 February 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
awesome!
― the tune is space, Thursday, 24 February 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
these guys are playing this i think?, btw
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― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Forgot to DVR, thx for the link, Morbs! New song is aces. I've turned one of the dudes in my office onto MGs lately, he'll be glad to hear this.
― Du Musst Calamari Werden (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
There are 2 different commercials running on TV that I swear steal the chord progression from Sax Rohmer #2
― rip van wanko, Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
these guys are playing this i think?, btwBreaking news! The lineup for Saturday's Rally for Women's Health has been announced, and you won't want to miss this fantastic program full of women's health advocates!
i love the mountain goats a lot
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i hope Kathleen Turner & Gloria Steinem sing a duet
― buzza, Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
acc to MoveOn there is also an NYC "solidarity with Wisconsin" rally on Saturday, I wonder who's playing that?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
"really enjoyed the new song! altho i was also pretty overwhelmed by the meta- ness of the moment ("let the camera / pull back" as I'm staring into the screen with laser focus; from california to iowa to letterman...)"
this is genius. what a great song choice.
― i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:09 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2011/02/27/134056034/first-listen-the-mountain-goats-all-eternals-deck#playlist
All Eternals Deck streaming on NPR
― DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
my workday just got 1000x more bearable.
― sofatruck, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i really need to start bringing headphones to work
― ciderpress, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
atm I really adore "Estate Sale Sign"
― DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
so excited y'all
btw, i don't think i said this yet in this thread, but another thing i enjoyed about the letterman appearance is that it gave me a chance to stretch music-fan muscles which have long been atrophying — internet/mp3/album leak era etc etc — it was super-fun to tune in and be like "oh boy, something from the new album!!"
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
((I guess this is something ppl have flapped their gums abt quite a bit already w/r/t the last 2 radiohead albums — the return of the 'event': album-event, fandom-event, etc. Letterman seems as good a place as any for such events!))
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
gonna listen to this today! & also want to say i am NOT anticipating the first negative review of the album that decides to make the obvious but super zzzzz-worthy pun: "All Eternals Dreck"
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
it sounds like you sorta are anticipating it tho
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
actually it no longer needs to be anticipated b/c i just preempted it outside the context of a negative review
do you see what i did there
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
((was gonna make another joke about the title but then I realized I had mixed up "decking" and "docking"))
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i like the olympics-do-hildegard-von-bingen number
― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Monday, 28 February 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
"sapphire trans amhigh beams in vaindrive wild broncosdown the plain"
^damn
― he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 February 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
"high beams in rain" innit?
and yeah DJP, "estate sale sign" is the fuckin' jam (that part of me secretly hoped the whole album would sound like). the lyrics! the delivery! the drums! the strums! "EVERY MARTYR IN THIS JUNGLE / IS GONNA GET HIS WISH!!!"
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
"Age of Kings" is fucking incredible, I am dying over the strings
― DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
whole record
so great
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
so there's pretty much no graceful way of revealing this, but I did the vocal arrangement on "High Hawk Season" and am singing the middle part along with two of my college buddies (which is why I have refrained from commenting on that particular song, which on its surface should be total "DJP comments on this immediately" catnip)
― DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
woah! rad!
― just sayin, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
If you play the part backwards you hear Dan invoking Satan by saying "HI DERE WAHT IS IT MAED"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice!
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
― DJP, Monday, February 28, 2011 5:12 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
:D
― call all destroyer, Monday, 28 February 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
yay DJP, and yay ILM :)
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
PS it is still early but I think I am going to enjoy this album a lot.
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
hey dan congrats! that is awesome! i was thinking it was kinda goth barbershop quartet in a way. great song.
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
omg you have no idea how happy I am right now
― goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
congrats, dan! The anticipation is too much.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
would rescind this if it was not mad complimentary
― your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I was sleeping hardcore and missed that the first time around, ha
― goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
album cover is great
― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
his black album?
yeah <3 the typography.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i know jd doesn't like to answer work related ?s but i have always been curious as to what 4AD's policies are w/r/t album art, because every time a band that didn't start on 4AD -- like for example the goats, blonde redhead, or TV on the Radio -- sign to 4AD all of a sudden their album covers totally start to look like 4AD albums
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
wau @ dan
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost -- this one's on Merge, Matt!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 February 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's what i mean, this one looks sorta not-4AD in a way i can't quite describe...
maybe i'm nuts tho, but i feel like i can eyeball a 4AD record at 50 paces
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 February 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
DJP awesome workBright Mountain Choir Men's Division
― Odult Ariented Rock (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
high five DJP
― ullr saves (gbx), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
the raddest of collabs
― fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
"outer scorpion squadron" is really really beautiful
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link
it sounds like nothing else in the back catalog
― odd future wolves GM trade them all (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
this is awesome so far (4 tracks in)
― acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
i was gonna wait to listen to the full album on release (still am, probably, because i like to hear things in hi-fi, not NPR webstream quality) but there's no way i couldn't listen to "high hawk season" and holy shit this is incredible
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this is really nice on first listen. the production is bugging me a bit, i feel like it's a bit underarranged and empty on some tracks, but that's probably because i'm mentally comparing it to Heretic Pride which to me is definitely the best-sounding mountain goats album in terms of production and use of space.
but yeah the songs are good as always!
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i really like "spare" mountain goats—not so much the early lo-fi stuff, but like, get lonely + the life of blah blah... both totally great. excellent restrained arrangements, flat-out gorgeous production. i haven't listened to heretic pride too much (compared to the other 4ad albums) for some reason, need to pull it out again.
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link
omg 'for charles bronson' FEATURING BOARDS OF CANADA :D
― acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link
haha 'this song is called 'for charles bronson'' made me lol at my desk today
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i am super excited about this (omg dan!) but i'm gonna wait until release day and buy it i think.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Loving this on first listen, kudos JD (and DP!)
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
prowl great cain is pretty oustanding; i especially love the ending
― kaygee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't listen to the mountain goats but it was hilarious when john self-banned cause he had to finish writing this album. kind of makes me want to hear it. tho i guess an album written in between intermittent bursts of ilx would be even better
― flopson, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ don't like to post on this thread but the person you cite wrapped the album in August, December thing was diff
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Elsewhere on the tMG front:
Hi, friends. If you're not familiar with The Best Show on WFMU, the show that has provided three hours of Mirth, Music and Mayhem every Tuesday for over a decade on WFMU thanks to geniuses Tom Scharpling (brilliant host, writer, producer and director--most recently for the New Pornographers' "Moves" video and Ted Leo's "Bottled in Cork" video) and Jon Wurster (brilliant comedian, writer and drummer for Superchunk, The Mountain Goats, Bob Mould, A.C. Newman and others), I'd love for you to become that way (here--you're welcome: http://wfmu.org/playlists/BD). If you are already amongst the throngs of TBS devotees, you won't balk at what I'm asking, which is for you to help spread the word about the Best Show pledge drive happening tonight (March 1st) and next Tuesday, March 8th. PLEASE repost this, tweet it, call people about it--and call in yourself and pledge. Don't worry--aside from the inherent joys of giving, there's a lot in it for you. Tom explains below:"WFMU is a listener-sponsored station that doesn't take corporate sponsorships or sleazy grants that would compromise our ability to be 100% freeform. I am doing two fundraising shows for the station during our two-week marathon - Tuesday March 1st and Tuesday March 8th, from 9-midnight EST. I'm offering a premium called the DONT STOP ME NOW FANTASY PACK. Any pledge for 75 dollars or more automatically secures it. The pack consists of:RATED G.G. - a vinyl single comprised of songs by notorious scum rocker GG Allin cleaned up and recorded by people exclusively for this single! The single will feature tracks by BEN GIBBARD, THE MOUNTAIN GOATS, TY SEGALL, FUCKED UP and TED LEO! There will also be a bonus DIGITAL DOWNLOAD of the single that will feature additional content by HOME BLITZ, SCHARPLING AND WURSTER and MORE!The single will not be for sale in stores and will only be available by pledging DURING MY MARATHON SHOW!
"WFMU is a listener-sponsored station that doesn't take corporate sponsorships or sleazy grants that would compromise our ability to be 100% freeform. I am doing two fundraising shows for the station during our two-week marathon - Tuesday March 1st and Tuesday March 8th, from 9-midnight EST. I'm offering a premium called the DONT STOP ME NOW FANTASY PACK. Any pledge for 75 dollars or more automatically secures it. The pack consists of:
RATED G.G. - a vinyl single comprised of songs by notorious scum rocker GG Allin cleaned up and recorded by people exclusively for this single! The single will feature tracks by BEN GIBBARD, THE MOUNTAIN GOATS, TY SEGALL, FUCKED UP and TED LEO! There will also be a bonus DIGITAL DOWNLOAD of the single that will feature additional content by HOME BLITZ, SCHARPLING AND WURSTER and MORE!
The single will not be for sale in stores and will only be available by pledging DURING MY MARATHON SHOW!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
(There's also other stuff in the pack besides the single obv.)
listened this morning; super, even w/ a head cold (mine)
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Yah, was listening to this in the car via NPR iphone app on the way home from my mom's chemo. A+++ work on the vocals stuff, Dan. Some of these songs remind me of late-period Walk-Ins, which is a VERY GOOD THING.
― Du Musst Calamari Werden (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Hi, I'm new here, and I love tMGs
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 6 March 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
hi jacob
listened to the new album yet? any thoughts?
― save a bike, ride a hipster (bernard snowy), Sunday, 6 March 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Heck yeah, I love it! It's different and all but I'm really loving it. Can't wait to hear the real thing instead of the crappy NPR stream though. (not that I don't appreciate your amazingness NPR)I was trolling through here and read something about one of you guys being one of the backup singers in high hawk season, were you serious?
― jacobfiala, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah he wasn't serious. No-one on ilx knows J0hn Darn3ll3. Nope, not here.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link
lol :)
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
For the record I think Jacob was asking about DJP? Who apparently did do some arranging & voc'ing on the record, which is fuckin rad. Wherever this goth barbershop quartet sings I'm getting my next haircut there for sure.
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link
jacob since you're new here I'll let you in on the secret: the lead singer of the tmgs occasionally posts on this site under the alias 'acoleuthic'
― iatee, Monday, 7 March 2011 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay that is hilarious but maybe we should stop injoking the new guy
― goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― flopson, Tuesday, March 1, 2011 1:38 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, March 1, 2011 7:34 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark
damn, flopson got flopsonned
― Neu! romancer (dayo), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link
*flop*
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ winning
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
sonned by a cat from boston after a quitting-the-internet beef
― save a bike, ride a hipster (bernard snowy), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link
SO MANY [potential] JOKES, SO LITTLE TIME
― save a bike, ride a hipster (bernard snowy), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link
jacob i like the album too i think the charles bronson song is my favorite one
charles bronsong
― save a bike, ride a hipster (bernard snowy), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i kind of wish it was 'this song is called a song for charles bronsong' tbh
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol. I like it. And I had heard that JD posted hear occasionally but due to the lols I assume that's no his real username.
― jacobfiala, Monday, 7 March 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
*sitcom saxophone*
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 March 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
he used to post here but then got SB'd, guy was a real dick
― I love priest but I've chosen maiden (Edward III), Monday, 7 March 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
what? i don't know what sb'd is and JD is a king!
― jacobfiala, Friday, 11 March 2011 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
the 'power in a union' vid made me tear up in my cube @ work
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 11 March 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that was real nice. posi. powerful.
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 March 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah loved that
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Friday, 11 March 2011 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link
big hoos at work
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/01/01/1225815/214545-news-image-hezi-dean-20100101.jpg
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 March 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
hoos be cryin in the cube
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 11 March 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
As learned via Twitter, a response!
http://www.fivetools.com/blog/2011/03/10/and-all-the-men-who-learned-to-hate-them/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2011 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link
fivetools is for tools
― jacobfiala, Friday, 11 March 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Uh. Did you actually click the link?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
circles inside circles
― I love victorias but I've chosen maidenform (Edward III), Friday, 11 March 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, it was good.but understand, that does make me a tool
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Did every body see this already?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220755552059&category=1600&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
here's a better explanation than the descriptionhttp://pitchfork.com/news/41900-the-mountain-goats-auction-song-for-charity/
― jacobfiala, Thursday, 17 March 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope to hell that JD is on the phone right now to Kung Fu to correct them on the spelling of "cassette".
― kkvgz, Thursday, 17 March 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, i didn't even notice
― jacobfiala, Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
What are the odds that the cassette contains the "Fun Fun Fun Fun" loop repeated for 120 minutes?
― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 March 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd say around 73%
― jacobfiala, Thursday, 17 March 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I LIKE THOSE ODDS
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 March 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I just got outbid at 2,350....shit just got real!
― jacobfiala, Friday, 18 March 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm saving the money to make a music video for my kid.
― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 18 March 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
like rebecca black?
― jacobfiala, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes!
― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 18 March 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Purrfect!
― jacobfiala, Saturday, 19 March 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
people are getting their preordered vinyls in the mail already. from what i hear, all survivors pack is downright amazing.
― jacobfiala, Friday, 25 March 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Jacob, the bidding didn't go up much in the last week. You should scrape together another $50 and take the lead.
― i have a hot bagel waiting for me in my bed so ill say this: (kkvgz), Friday, 25 March 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Good Mother Jones interview. I didn't know John's parents were part of the Peace and Freedom Party. you can't get more late 60s left than that.
http://motherjones.com/media/2011/03/john-darnielle-mountain-goats-all-eternals-deck
― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 25 March 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
If they do West Coast dates in summer, hope they're announced soon if I can get to one when I travel, eh?
― Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, was just listening to a radio program from the '70s where they were debating the meanings of "feminist socialist" vs. "socialist feminist"
― Lady Miss K-Lo (donna rouge), Friday, 25 March 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm scared I might win it. i just wanted to be able to say i bid on it, i don't actually have any money.
― jacobfiala, Friday, 25 March 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
don't bid on it if you can't pay for it!
― ciderpress, Friday, 25 March 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, mother
― jacobfiala, Friday, 25 March 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I missed 'em tonight at the 930 in Dc. I think Hoos went
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 26 March 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i did not, and i kinda feel bad about it :/
i think govern yourself accordingly went though??
report imo
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 26 March 2011 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
aw i did not know john was a vegetarian. thumbs up.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 26 March 2011 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link
just got the new album in the mail, why are all the track names threee words long? i haven't slept in a while and my brane says it's probably the devil?
― major fashion inspiration (reddening), Saturday, 26 March 2011 08:31 (thirteen years ago) link
omg yr right! spooky
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 26 March 2011 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:31 AM (6 hours ago)
this is one of the few things I know abt dude, but it is rad
― i'm on the reichstag, baby, I was bahn this way (m bison), Saturday, 26 March 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link
can't believe he called out LJ in that interview
by name and everything!
― I only use this style of type when I choose it (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
they were just great - thought the keyboard player added a ton (not that i'm familiar at all with the new record)
set closed with a cover of silkworm's "plain," which was totally jaw-dropping/neatly coincided with one of my semi-annual trips down the silkworm rabbit hole
― Suicide Demo for Kemba Walker (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
omg TMG covering Silkworm? I think my head would explode.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah thats awesome
― just sayin, Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i can totally imagine john singing that song too
― just sayin, Saturday, 26 March 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
― I only use this style of type when I choose it (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:27 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wait WHAT?
― Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 27 March 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
there's a keyboard player? who he?
― thomp, Sunday, 27 March 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
has anyone gotten their preorders yet?
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
― Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:10 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Was that the Mother Jones interview as I couldn't see any LJ ref?
― Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Yup, with the tape. Both rule.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice! i heard that tapes will get released in select record stores as well
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
hoy and billy, shush
― kris menace isn't even french (sic), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I was delighted by the rendition of "Chain Fight Tonight" last evening in York, PA.
― spastic heritage, Sunday, 27 March 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
^sweet
iirc Ted Leo has done that too?
― 1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Monday, 28 March 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link
so is there any rhyme or reason to which stores are getting the cassette tapes? or do i just have to go around to various stores and hope i've happened across a shop that happened to snag a copy? \o_O/
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know where you live but bull city records always seem to have the latest tMG exclusives. dunno though, trying to think of other record shops that JD seems especially affilated with.
― i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Monday, 28 March 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Austin TX
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
ah well not a big deal, but i think it'd be fun to hear the cassette if i come across one
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
it could be fun searching for it! like a treasure hunt!
― i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Monday, 28 March 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i live in the middle of st. louis and called the closest three record stores and no luck. but i heard that 500 more (besides the original 500) will be in select record stores. that's all i know.
― jacobfiala, Monday, 28 March 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
So my gal had a shit ton of shrimper cassettes in boxes (along with a zillion other cassettes) and we collectively determined that neither of us were ever gonna listen to cassettes ever again and we have most of this stuff on mp3 anyway, so she opted to ebay.she just sold five cassettes for over 500 dollars (150 for transmissions to horace!) and the first last plane to jakarta zine for about sixty.Thanks John! Who knew that people would pay big cash for CASSETTES?
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
leftovers here: http://shop.ebay.com/spoh/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol, read up on the thread a bit and saw that people will indeed pay big cash for CASSETTES
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
Listened to this twice on the way into the office today. It's really enjoyable, although I have to admit that my attention drifted for a few songs after High Hawk Season, which is fucking phenomenal. Great work, DJP.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link
^_^ thx!
― 'lol u stuck with me now watch this ass expand, joeks on u' (DJP), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
btw everyone go buy like 6 copies of this
record's great, the Capitol Hill Sonic Boom here in Seattle had like ten copies of the bonus cassette when I went by a little while ago.
― rope (lloydwabbitt), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
picked this up, given it about three spins.
gotta say, i think it's solid, but not likely to be among my favorite TMG albums of the past decade or so. a few songs have really hit me hard ("estate sale sign," "beautiful gas mask," "high hawk season") then there are a few that are pleasantly straightforward in a good way ("damn these vampires") and a couple that for some reason, maybe the way the melodies are phrased, who knows?, that kinda grate on me in a bad way ("birth of serpents," "never quite free")
anyway -- those three songs mentioned above that are really hitting home i'd place on a TMG best-of -- i guess that's what counts at the end of the day, is that i've got at least three indispensable, A+++ tunes from this album
who knows... the rest may grow on me more, probably will in fact...
btw, even tho i'm not his favorite ilxor, would like to extend a big congrats to DJP for not only being ON this album (really cool in itself), but spearheading the arrangement behind one of its standout tracks. soooo great, good job dude
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
btw noticed when i referenced the track-listing on Amazon that it's on sale for $5, if any of you are inclined to purchase mp3s from Amz...
http://www.amazon.com/All-Eternals-Deck/dp/B004S85HRQ/ref=pd_sim_dmusic_a_1
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
dude, thanks
btw "Age of Kings" and "For Charles Bronson" will start to rule your world pretty soon
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
ive heard that this album is great other than some terrible arrangement some jerk did on it - can anyone verify this is true
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah didn't dig the blenders' guest appearance but other than that it's solid
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
the only way to really get to the bottom of that is for you to buy 15 copies and listen to them simultaneously
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh snaaaaaaaaaap xpost
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
but seriously folx this is on vinyl right?
― Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, good job DJP, that song is great.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
got yer vinyl right here
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8450030
gonna bow out of this thread now, that's enough tacky shilling for one day
thanks everybody!
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
new one sounds killer. i do a bad job at keeping up with the Goats (last one I heard was Get Lonely) but I am digging this!
― tylerw, Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
I only really got into the Goats with Heretic Pride (I know, I know). I've followed closely ever since and gone back and fallen for The Sunset Tree and All Hail West Texas. Get Lonely, We Shall All Be Healed, and Tallahassee are all on my list to get soon.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
Good idea!
― kkvgz, Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
yes, pls get all of the above. favorites are Tallahassee and Get Lonely
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Thursday, 31 March 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah before anything else, even the tape shit i had a while back, get lonely really grabbed my heart first
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 1 April 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
man I wanna get this but I want a physical copy, that I can hold, in my hands
― who is john nult? (dayo), Friday, 1 April 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
Get Lonely is notorious difficult to get into though, and is really best approached from the vantage point of having broke up with someone and it hurts so bad that you want to die. Just saying - it's like when you're crying so long and hard and it's like these big heaving sobs and after a while you get a sore throat and swallowing your own spit becomes sort of a challenge. Have you cried like that recently? Because that's where you should be coming from for that record. Imo.
― kkvgz, Friday, 1 April 2011 08:43 (twelve years ago) link
Or like, she enticed you to follow her to a new land, then left you as soon as you got there, and you're friendless and penniless in a strange place among people whose customs who don't know and you're searching wildly for someone or anything you can relate to. But you can't.
― kkvgz, Friday, 1 April 2011 09:42 (twelve years ago) link
BOO: the videogame music gig I did yesterday ran super late by about an hour and I missed almost the entire show
YAY: I arrived in time for "No Children"
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Saturday, 2 April 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
oooooh, what videogame?
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 April 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
Stuff from Final Fantasy VII, Civilization IV, Myst and Metal Gear Solid 3. It was pretty bad-ass! (The orchestra also did stuff from Super Mario Brothers and Chrono Chross)
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Saturday, 2 April 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
wow, are you part of videogames live then?
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 April 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Hands up, everyone who thought of LJ after reading this post. :-)
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 2 April 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
xp: it was with these guys http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Game_Orchestra
― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
cool; i am v impressed
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 3 April 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
This album is pretty ace. Wasn't a huge fan of their last album.
― musicfanatic, Sunday, 3 April 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
nyc show got rave review from my good pal jacquelyn.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 3 April 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
[q=musicfanatic]This album is pretty ace. Wasn't a huge fan of their last album.[/q]
I second this.apparently you will like it more if you give the life of the world in flux. i haven't tried.
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 3 April 2011 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
well that didn't work.i'm so embarrased.
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 3 April 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
Life of the World In Flux has Proverbs 6:27, which I like better than everything else on the actual album. He played it live at the Sixth & I Synogogue gig in DC (available on archive.org).
― kkvgz, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:42 (twelve years ago) link
Also, the last one kinda made me want to write an album full of songs titled after SEC Forms that have special meaning to me:
1. "Form 4" - 4:07 2. "Form DEF 14A" - 3:13 3. "Form 10-K ex.21" - 3:10 4. "Form N-17f-2" - 3:03
etc. : )
― kkvgz, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:50 (twelve years ago) link
am still picking through this new album, sounds really lovely but i feel a little distant from the lyrics. otoh i loved the last album immediately and emotionally; genesis 30:3 has this delicate touch of the sacred in it that messes me up every time i hear it, and i was really happy when it got some votes as a single in 2009's pazz and jop.
i'm looking forward to hearing the new stuff live; "liza forever minnelli" was devastating live on the last tour.
― major fashion inspiration (reddening), Sunday, 3 April 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, he played Charles Bronson for us last year and it was great.
― jacobfiala, Sunday, 3 April 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Went into HMV to see if they had it this week and no. Will see if I can be bothered to go on amazon later. Fuck record shops not having new records, bastids deserve to go out of business.
― Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
TS: some guy in a marcus allen jersey vs. some guy in an impala
― kkvgz, Monday, 4 April 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
I have an Impala. I think he was talking about me
― jacobfiala, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
ahaha
― Godspeed HOOS! Black Steendriver (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
four song set + interview @ spin website
http://www.spin.com/articles/mountain-goats-unplug-spin
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
"unplug"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
Several dates with Bright Eyes announced.
― the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
huh, cool
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 April 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't necessarily been in to much of the 2000s goats stuff but on first listen this is fatastic
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
it's also fantastic, but yes it's very fat
high hawk, sourdoire, scorpion squandron are reeeedic
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
fat with PORTENT
― burn me at the stake if you must (reddening), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
more like PORKTENT
― ★ The Pistns ★ Miss You Sheed ★ (dayo), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
actually that's probably in bad taste, given food preferences
― ★ The Pistns ★ Miss You Sheed ★ (dayo), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
i think it might be one of my favs. a healthy refresher course for me.john can still rock; it's official.
― jacobfiala, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
oficial
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 April 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
^ that shit is spanish, motherfuckers
"I have started a blog where I record one ukulele cover (+ guitar, production, drums, if i have time) (+ the help of the four music majors I live with when they want to) of a Mountain Goats song a day! The idea is that it will help me have some fun learning ukulele but also be a cool project with a long duration."
http://www.ukegoats.com/
― Cunga, Friday, 8 April 2011 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^ lawsuit imo
― The Dunkster (absolutely clean glasses), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
^^jerk imo
― jacobfiala, Saturday, 9 April 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
fee nah nay
― the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Saturday, 9 April 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
man taking a random break from wedding playlist making and just wanna say that "We Shall All Be Healed" is pretty close to a perfect album and freaks me out every time i stumble across it because it is just so on and kinda speaks to an old fucked up me in a way i cant really describe. also "Mole" in specific is a song that got me through some terrible shit w/a not around anymore friend at just the right time (and still does in a kinda memorial way i guess) so i cant really be impartial. TMI or whatever.
ok then
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 07:19 (twelve years ago) link
the one big misstep for me on this album is all up the seething coast which i have never really liked tho
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 07:40 (twelve years ago) link
I reviewed the new one for The Quietus - http://thequietus.com/articles/06054-the-mountain-goats-all-eternals-deck-review
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 07:57 (twelve years ago) link
John Justen, I'm glad you feel that way. I think a lot of people place We Shall All Be Healed somewhere like 4 or 5 down on their lists of best 4AD MtnGts album, but it's been unshakably my favorite ever since hearing it. Mole is also my favorite jam from that record, although not for any personal reasons.
I've warmed a lot to All Up The Seething Coast as well. It reminds me of how I quit smoking by replacing it with binge drinking and quit binge drinking by replacing it with sugar and cheese. "A couple of Milky Ways for breakfast"? I have lived that. Dude is so gritty and real.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
tmg suffer from having too many awesome records imo. i've not even got around to the new one or we shall all be healed yet.
― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
not having any personal knowledge of who is involved with tmg or anything like that has made me want to wait to buy them all legally too. dagnammit.
― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
Slow down, Sam. Get to know the albums and cherish 'em a while.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
or spotify them, y'know.
a randomly picked up promo copy of wsabh provided my moment of conversion and as such it holds a particular place in my affections. palmcorder yajna and your belgian things especially are such a joy to go back to.
― DISPLAY NAMING RIGHTS (Upt0eleven), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
oooh, last time i looked half of them weren't there.
― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link
WSABH=greatestAll Up The Seething Coast = really good imo. It was my jam for awhile.And AED=supa good as well
― jacobfiala, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah WSABH is excellent. "against pollution" + "story of the pigs" = strongest ending of any goats album? maybe 2 of the best songs, ever, period??
"all up the seething coast" was one of the last songs I warmed up to, but I love it now. 'the best you've got is powerless against me...'
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
ooh and I forgot "cotton" comes before those 2 — another song that I wholeheartedly love, and feel my love returned by
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
I think a lot of people place We Shall All Be Healed somewhere like 4 or 5 down on their lists of best 4AD MtnGts album, but it's been unshakably my favorite ever since hearing it.
Nope, you're not alone -- it remains my favorite.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
I wrote a year-end essay for Stylus in 2004 based on that album's intimations of dread.
― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
skimming through some of the old posts upthread, and can I just say: lol @ the reference (c.2003) to the "late period" of Full Force Galesburg and The Coroner's Gambit
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
i would definitely still call those records "late period"
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
Late period surely has to start with Tallahassee? Beyond that there's early and mid period?
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 08:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, I'm sure it wasn't an inherently lolzy sentiment in 2003 when those were 2 of his 4 most recent releases; but now it seems like hair-splitting fanboy silliness. "oh yeah, I prefer The Coroner's Gambit to Sweden, you can really hear that his guitar has gotten even more out-of-tune by that point."
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol!!!
but i do prefer coroner's gambit to sweden
― jacobfiala, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
ok this has earned the MGs my undying love and respect:
http://pitchfork.com/news/42185-video-silkworm-frontman-joins-mountain-goats/
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link
<3 everything about that video
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
hoooooooly shit, look at this kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiAYh490CVw
― kkvgz, Thursday, 14 April 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
OH SHIT TIM MIDGETT!! FUCK YEAH AWESOME
― the zing cheese incident (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 April 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
hahahah what a badass video
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 15 April 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
V. cool:
http://www.marcbessant.com/artwork/all-eternals-deck/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
a mate of mine got some nice things with his aed order
http://www.roseability.com/2011/04/16/all-survivors-deck-we-are-young-supernovas-and-the-heats-about-to-break
― cuddles (the kid), Thursday, 21 April 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
i will stand by this, zopilote / nine black poppies / sweden are their own thing and are as different from coroners gambit / full force janesburg as the latter are from his contempo stuff
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 April 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
^agreed.
Also, yeah, the first 500 preorders through merge's website of the cd or the lp came with All Survivor's Pack. But if you missed it, you still have a chance, they go for like 50 on eBay.
― jacobfiala, Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
new album is good. would rank it 2nd out of the last 5. Never Quite Free is heartbreaking beautiful again. (though it could do with a better session drummer...) (who cares, it's about the voice and twangy guitars and piano anyway)
― Ludo, Saturday, 23 April 2011 11:22 (twelve years ago) link
i will stand by this, zopilote / nine black poppies / sweden are their own thing and are as different from coroners gambit / full force janesburg as the latter are from his contempo stuff― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:09 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:09 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
"lol old posts", basically
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
I like this one:
I only have one Moutain Goats song but I like it a lot. "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix' Life" on a 'zine 7-inch. You keep waiting for some revelation but it turns out on that day all Jimi did was drink some water & hang around. I love that. I need to get some Mountain Goats, anyway.― Mark (MarkR), Friday, January 17, 2003 4:28 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 23 April 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link
This made me lol http://www.avclub.com/philadelphia/articles/mountain-goats-lyrics-reimagined-as-travel-advice,54507/
― Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Saturday, 23 April 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
Someone at Something Awful is a Mountain Goats fan: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/albums-books-photoshop.php?page=2
― Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
(though it could do with a better session drummer...)
lol poor Jon Wurster
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
new tour dates announced, including west coast.
gonna be interesting to see the vibe @ the aladdin theater in portland...that place's got SEATS!
― artisanal rabbit made from single-origin chocolate (reddening), Thursday, 28 April 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
bah, precedes my West Coasting by 2-3 weeks
― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 April 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
also gonna be interesting to see the vibe at the budweiser amphitheater at paper mill island in baldwinsville, ny, which is less than a mile from my parents' house (and normally hosts things like "Parrots of the Carribean-Jimmy Buffet Tribute Band")
― Suicide Demo for Kemba Walker (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 28 April 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
You know they could all jam down together.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
i don't get why everyone complains about john wurster. he's fantastic! Psalms 40:2? [shudder] soooo good.
― jacobfiala, Saturday, 30 April 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
okay this is awesome
http://womensmedicalfund.org/index.php/donate-Raffle
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Friday, 13 May 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
people complain about wurster? the hell is wrong with them
― kaygee, Friday, 13 May 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
JD on Kurt Andersen's radio show this week
― resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
Wurster is a god among drummers, fuiud
― suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
"estate sale sign" is fantaaaaaaaaaastic
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Sunday, 15 May 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
This is by far the MG album I've played the most since '05. "Age of Kings," "Liza Forever Minnelli," "Beautiful Gas Mask" -- awesome.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 May 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
It really is wonderful. My girlfriend became an instant fan after one listen.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 May 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i only just really sat down with it but it sounds to me like the best since healed.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 15 May 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Agree that it's the best since Healed as well.. Liked "Estate Sale Sign" and "Birth of Serpents" best initially, but the celebrity trio of "For Charles Bronson", "Liza Forever Minnelli" and "The Autopsy Garland" (about Judy) have come to feel like the heart of the album to me.
― jer.fairall, Monday, 16 May 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
my wife likes this dude too, incl. the new album, she says he's gotten better as he sounds "less like an actual mountain goat" (i guess as his singing gets less intense/bleaty as on the pre-4AD stuff)
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
the vocals on "liza" and "age of kings" seem like a step forward.. quite nuanced
― ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
I never really loved what I heard from the Mountain Goats but my wife and I just finished watching season 3 of Moral Oral and MG songs are used perfectly to soundtrack that last season. Really brilliant in that context and gave me some appreciation for the music that I didn't have beforehand. I think the songs from that season are "No Children," "Old College Try," and "Love Love Love."
― Mordy, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
oh GOD the episode that uses "No Children" is one of the most devastating things I've ever seen on television
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
That show was really cut down unfairly in its prime. Apparently the 3rd season was supposed to be a full order but bc of some of the episodes (partic the one with the three women, the nurse talking to the bears, the teacher with the abortion and miss censordoll) were too "raw" (i guess?) it was cancelled. it doesn't look like Dino was ready to stop at all.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
nice cover of "Boxcar" by Jawbreaker is now on the Onion AV Club
― Darin, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
oh rad!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
i miss moral orel too. how did you watch season 2 and 3 mordy? i bought season 1, but 2 and 3 aren't available.
― jacobfiala, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
JD answers your questions
I hope this works. I've never done this before.
― banjoboy, Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
^ reddit thing is really cool
someone there linked this MTV interview and holy shit, worst ive ever read? a contender, for sure
http://read.mtvhive.com/2011/05/25/interview-the-mountain-goats-john-darnielle
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
obviously that's on the interviewer—not JD
Eric Spitznagl
― buzza, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
― markers, Thursday, 9 June 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
yeesh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
That interviewer is awful, but JD certainy handled it well with his signature class and dignity.
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
*sings beyonce*
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
"Oh you don't like pop music? How about if I sing it at you???"
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
wow shit got really weird after that
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
super weird!
― just sayin, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
spitzNAGL if i may
― arby's, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
scroll 8 posts up
― iatee, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
oh! misread that. XD
― arby's, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, June 9, 2011 6:46 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
i love the idea of the writer grinning to himself as he's transcribing this portion of the interview
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
holy hell this interview
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
oh my god this interview
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
WTF THIS INTERVIEW
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
everytime I thought "oh this is the part where it gets weird" it got WEIRDER
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus, I assumed this guy was an MTV intern or something, not a contributing editor at The Believer.
― jaymc, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
that interview erased my brain and i can't think of what a good one is like
― arby's, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
he has to be trollin', theres no way
― bnw, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
In his defense: more reporters should quote Beyonce in interviews.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
Actually, some of these Vanity Fair interviews he's done are pretty entertaining.
― jaymc, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
ok lol singing at interviewees is actually a thing he does
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
seeing his interviewing style play out there helps frame the JD one a bit better...but still
― arby's, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
What do you say when you’re roughing up a perp? “On the floor, dirtbag!” “Book 'em, Danno!” That kind of thing.Shaq: Well, uh. [Long pause.] My job is to be a little girl.Come again?Shaq: I play a little girl on the Internet. So whatever name I’m going by, that will probably be my catchphrase. If I’m Tanya, then it’ll be something like, “Tanya says hello.” And they’ll be like, “Tanya who?” And I’ll say, “You don’t know no Tanya, huh? I’m Tanya. Let’s go.” And that’s when the cuffs get slapped on you.
Shaq: Well, uh. [Long pause.] My job is to be a little girl.
Come again?
Shaq: I play a little girl on the Internet. So whatever name I’m going by, that will probably be my catchphrase. If I’m Tanya, then it’ll be something like, “Tanya says hello.” And they’ll be like, “Tanya who?” And I’ll say, “You don’t know no Tanya, huh? I’m Tanya. Let’s go.” And that’s when the cuffs get slapped on you.
SHAQ I LOVE YOU
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
generally not a fan when the interviewers think we give a shit about them
― bnw, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the fact that he doesn't seem to care about coming across as a dick is what makes some of his interviews funny, but with the JD interview that kind of jokes-bruv cheekiness is weirdly and uncomfortably mingled with the ingratiating tone of an awkward teenager meeting his idol.
― jaymc, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
I think this guy should be hunted down and attacked by a pack of rabid woodchucks.
― Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Or forced to live with Kid Rock, which is probably worse.
― Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
or mauled by a murder of rabid eddychucks.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
― jaymc, Thursday, 9 June 2011 21:51 (11 minutes ago)
main prob isn't even the jokes, it's that his myopia is pushed to the forefront in this interview
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 June 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
"i bootlegg your music all the time, i even grabbed that leak of all eternals deck! is that alright with you?"
― jacobfiala, Friday, 10 June 2011 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
Just read some of his Vanity Fair stuff, and the Darnielle interview didn't get any better as a result.
― jer.fairall, Friday, 10 June 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
Interview read OK to me. Good responses from J0hn. i.e.
The thing is, I have empathy for every character I sing through. But that song, “No Children,” is kind of funny and I’m not laughing with those people, I’m laughing at them. It’s funny to watch people who are that messed up. It’s maybe not the most admirable trait in a human being to be amused by that, and I think that’s why I try to have some empathy for them. But the funny parts of that song? That’s not me saying, “Hey, isn’t it hilarious how people treat each other bad?” It’s me saying, “You guys are wasting your single opportunity to occupy this human body."
― Forget the rest / this breast test is best (Ówen P.), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
hysterical interview; was kinda hoping it was incognito whiney
― When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 10 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
i mean...
On a scale of one to ten, ten being you want to punch me hard in the throat right now …
― When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
On a scale of one to 51, 51 being you want to sb me right now ...
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 11 June 2011 08:07 (twelve years ago) link
Of interest!
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/06/first-drafts-the-mountain-goats-dance-music/240558/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
awes, will read later
― markers, Thursday, 16 June 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
that was cool. i always enjoy little candid bits from songwriters about their songwriting.
dude played a spirited show on tuesday in spite of a back half of the room who needed to be 51'd. it was the first i've been able to make it to in about 8 years, fun to see him with the (not extraordinarily recent) addition of a band.
― arby's, Thursday, 16 June 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
i went and actually milled around outside but it was raining so hard and i was soaked from biking and went home instead :(
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Thursday, 16 June 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
Super fun show tonight, so much unpent mad energy coming from that stage. Really great sets w/ bonus Steely Dan cover in the (quieter) middle.
― Jaq, Friday, 17 June 2011 07:12 (twelve years ago) link
what steely dan song did he do?
― just sayin, Friday, 17 June 2011 07:42 (twelve years ago) link
could totally imagine kid charlemagne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeoCG7-3Jqw
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 June 2011 07:53 (twelve years ago) link
NO STATIC AT ALL
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 June 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
Steve Shasta (Malibu, CA USA)
― buzza, Friday, 17 June 2011 08:09 (twelve years ago) link
Nah, he did Dr. Wu
― Jaq, Friday, 17 June 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
I ask a few things.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
good interview! i only just got this album, and man its good, seems like it might even be one of his best?
― just sayin, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
Good interview. (But ketjap manis >>>>>> straight soy sauce in that pad thai.)
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Monday, 20 June 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
I am totally not faking when I say that I don't get what's supposed to be wrong with the Spitznagl interview!
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 20 June 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
my 8 yr old daughter chimes in:
"what the... this is kind of annoying. going to georgia?? i thought your voice had to be good to have a CD out. how does this guy have a CD?... we need to get rid of this one... get rid of it, delete it from your computer at least, dad."
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
your daughter is kinda a dick
― iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
apple, tree, et cetera
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty much my favourite band ever. Had a wonderful bonding moment with my really surly 16 year old brother on holiday a few weeks back. I absent mindedly started singing Birth of Serpents in the car, he turns to me and asks why I was singing it, I was surprised he knew what it was, and then boom, he tells me about how much he loves the band, how he's got tonnes of their records etc. I've never got on with him better, so thanks John Darnielle!
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
that's my favorite mg song -- wtf little ilxtress
― mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
love TMG stuff, esp. as summer begins to fade into fall.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
I love High Hawk Season, but I am biased
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
ha
― *steens furiHOOSly* (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
i went to see their dublin show with some friends, we had a ball. suspiciously timed with the obama visit tho i must say
― zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
did u mean to say o'bama
― mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
looooooool ilxor
― markers, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
ní féidir liom xp
― zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
loool djp
― come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
i do like tmg
― markers, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
one of the best things ive heard all year. i am not biased!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 28 August 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltowrfU1Ej1r5v7auo1_500.jpg
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
too much time on ilx imo
― herbie mann on some gully shit (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 07:19 (twelve years ago) link
New track!
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12730-thucydides-ii-58/
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
i try not to be a pushy fan but man if there was a whole now-cancelled mountain goats project of songs based on passages by classical historians i am going to be slightly rueful
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
Ooh!
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Thursday, 17 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
that show is right at the start of EMP, ja
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 November 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roQj2eSRlXE
― spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
isn't that just the greatest thing ever? ^
― spellcheck is really advanced these days (cajunsunday), Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
That is great! Thanks for sharing
― grandavis, Thursday, 17 November 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
a JD/OP duet album would be VERY welcome round here and with me
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
as long as we get more sweet djp action too
― Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
(also what are matmos up to these days?)
― Tokyo Sexwale (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
the Anonymous 4 collaboration rolled out tonight was unbelievably good. I feel the need to hear it all again, since the arrangements were so intricate and perfectly attuned to the songs that each piece had a couple of moments I almost needed a breather after to take them in. Also v nice to see Mr Mountain Goats be so clearly thrilled by the occasion, and Owen Pallett perform in such a different situation, as a fill-in with A4 themselves (he looked increeeedibly nervous beforehand, but to my untrained ears it sounded great). Also thanks for finishing fairly early, as it meant I had time to run up the road and catch all of When Saints Go Machine's set.
― Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
v much worth dragging myself out of bed for as I continue to fight a bug, but I feel I'm going to need about 15 hours of sleep now.
― Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
Co-sign, especially about the need to hear it all again. If this stuff doesn't get recorded & released I might cry a little.
― God arrives for the apocalypse, having been traveling at the speed of (ledge), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 08:05 (eleven years ago) link
The quintessential @mountain_goats moment: Someone requests "Fault Lines," JD demurs, claiming lyrical ignorance. Fan hands him her iPhone.
next time i see dude i'm gonna bring a printout of 'song for cleomenes'
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 April 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
woohoo! http://pitchfork.com/news/46347-the-mountain-goats-reissue-old-cassettes/
"The songs you find on this compact disc originally appeared on two cassettes. To elaborate further about that—to say, for example, that the songs originally appeared 'on two cassettes that were released in ____ and ____'—would misrepresent the spirit of their time. These tapes did not have release dates. No one anticipated their coming into the world, and very few noticed or cared. All previous eras cross at some point into the territory of the unimaginable, and so it is with the days of tape-trading. The obscurity in which these songs were incubated and born and brought into their faint light is a state of being which has passed into history."
― kid steel (cajunsunday), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
wow, I still have these cassettes floating around somewhere, but they are nigh-unplayable. Will buy the reissue, definitely.
― deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
New album in October:
http://www.mountain-goats.com/archives/2012/07/just-under-1000.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 July 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
SO EXCITED for the cassette reissues, somehow missed news of these but will get them today!
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 9 July 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
Is it possible that the songs with the drum machine and the keyboard are actually his very greatest work?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
was listening to one of the recent solo shows and was impressed with the piano playing! very very nice.
― tylerw, Saturday, 14 July 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
xpost some definitely are--cant remember the name right now but whichever has the refrain "it won't be necessary" is all-time
― visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
"california song" up there for me
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
Sweden is just too much.
YOU'RE MEAN TO ME!WHY MUST YOU BE MEAN TO ME?YOU SHOULDN'T FORGET, YOU SEE, WHAT YOU MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN TO ME!
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Fantastic piano playing!
― Ówen P., Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
hey owen, can you say how involved you were on the new record? (its cool if you wanna just make us wait for liner notes)
― Yeah and I ~obstruction~ you/ya fucking blind cunt (pause) fucking k (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
actually, sorry for asking that. i know aero and i think yrself have said in the past to not talk directly about the day job
― Yeah and I ~obstruction~ you/ya fucking blind cunt (pause) fucking k (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
I heard the Desmond Child penned songs on this are great
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
would usually say "hey let's leave a classic like 'dude (looks like a lady)" alone, but the version here really brings the pain
― tylerw, Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
As far as I know, Steven Tyler is pretty OK with talking about his day job round here
― Ówen P., Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
But getting back on topic, no, I contributed nothing to the new Mountain Goats album. They asked me to do some arrangements for two collaborative concerts with a capella group Anonymous 4, in March. I arranged three songs for guitar, voice + SSAA, four for piano, voice + SSAA, and one for voice + SSAA. (There were no string arrangements, as was reported.) I'm pretty sure NPR recorded the NYC performance and iirc the songs "Lakeside view apartments suite" and "Counterfeit Florida plates" were especially strong
― Ówen P., Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
(And for the record I'm OK with talking 'bout my day job so long as it's limited to clarifying already available facts and expressing positive opinions i.e. "he's a blessing and an inspiration")
― Ówen P., Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
Owen, thanks for making my brother's first ever gig (the Anonymous 4 show at the Barbican) one he'll never forget.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
No thanks necessary. I sit at the piano all day and take ILX breaks every hour. It's good living.
― Ówen P., Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
owen I didn't realize u did string arrangements on Life of the World to Come until v.recently, and when I found out I was like "oh that's why they're so awesome!" <3 <3
― visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
<3 at you but let's keep things on topic. I am so excited for this new Mountain Goats record and you should be too. There is one song on the album called "White cedar" that is so beautiful I couldn't bear to work on it, probably my favourite tMG song of the last seven years.
― Ówen P., Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
haha yes of course I am excited! I will probably never reach a point in my life where the idea of a new goats album fails to excite me
― visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Saturday, 14 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
bah, after going to the incredible barbican show i was really looking forward to hearing those in recorded form! but on the other hand, now i have something unheard to be looking forward to. (but i'll have to track down those recordings.)
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 14 July 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
oh, well im very glad i asked then :) there comes a time once in a while where a new mtn goats record feels like a reassuring boost everyone needs
― Yeah and I ~obstruction~ you/ya fucking blind cunt (pause) fucking k (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 14 July 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
that's rad that you're working with anonymous 4; i dig them
― This clam, stranded on someone’s floor, is trying to dig itself (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 July 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
just noticed this, which was announced back in April but looks like it wasn't mentioned here--a "metal covers" set at Hopscotch next month:
The second set, however, will be unlike any in the 20-year history of the Mountain Goats—all covers, possibly all on Fletcher’s beautiful grand piano, all by himself. A lifelong metal fan and longtime columnist for the extreme music magazine Decibel, Darnielle says he plans to spend a portion of the summer arranging and learning covers of heavy metal songs. “The tentative title for this set,” Darnielle says, “is ‘Nearer My Hateful Mankind Plague to Thee,’ but titles are subject to change.http://hopscotchmusicfest.com/news/post/the-mountain-goats-to-perform-rarities-and-first-ever-covers-sets-at-hopsco/
― Aglet, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
so the Hopscotch gig was super fun
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Saturday, 8 September 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
I certainly hope that the title of the set was changed to These Purges of God
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 8 September 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
still waiting for a buddy holocaust tribute album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_FsLbCd9FY&feature=context-cha
― scott seward, Sunday, 9 September 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
new album is fabulous as usual, lots of piano and what sounds like a small horn/brass section. strong song cycle & a few flat out stunners. love it
― ilxor, Sunday, 9 September 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
Need to fully absorb it still, but yeah, I can already see myself liking this as much as Heretic Pride and All Eternals Deck, which means this will probably finish somewhere in the second half of my year end top ten.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
John needs to become a permanent co-host on Judge John Hodgman.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Is it streaming somewhere at this point?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/judge-john-hodgman
The metal episode is the best.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, sorry, I meant the album! (Based on previous comments.) But I'm glad for that too!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Duh doy, I should have picked up on that.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
No, but it is, uh, around.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone ever pitched Deadmau5, Skrillex and SBTRKT remixing Mountain Goats songs?
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
i certainly hope not.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
pet peeve is people phrasing "there's a leak online" like this as if there were some Dumb Ol' Suits who wouldn't be able to understand what "it is, uh, around" would mean
― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
speak for yourself man, I still don't know what we're talking about—far as I can tell some kind of steamer called the Mountain Goat is supposed to be around, but may have sprung a leak? also something about the holocaust
― He revs the language like a hypersonic superbike. (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
It leaked online and I downloaded it illegally.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i usually just walk up to a website and be like "um...heeey man...um....are you holding?"
― listen to that wu-tang whistle blowin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
you know where i can get some, um, *420*
― how's life, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
yo man you got any of that yam king of crops
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
To be fair, "know where I can get some, um, Transcendental Youth" does sorta sound like drug slang.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
hey mp3 hosting website....are you cool?
― listen to that wu-tang whistle blowin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
WHO LET THE NARC IN. i may wait to buy this one! i want the anonymous 4 memories to stay foremost with me for a while longer.
― tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
"...John's not here!"
― nickn, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
always feel like having a weed strain named after one of your tunes would be some sort of ultimate accolade
― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
if you you smoke this shit...get this...you'll have....no children
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
anyone got some swedish treeeees?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
my man
― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Bong for Dennis Brown
― would smash pumpkins (Ówen P.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
The Meth Inside
― cwkiii, Thursday, 13 September 2012 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
Going to Jamaica
― Odyssey Dong (how's life), Thursday, 13 September 2012 08:56 (eleven years ago) link
So anyway, stream up:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/album-premiere-the-mountain-goats-transcendental-youth-20120924
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
well shock surprise this is awesome
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Monday, 24 September 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
So far, this is great.
― Regional Tug (irrational), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
When I was scoring "White Cedar" in January I had to take regular "me" breaks, that song has become very important to my life
― whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Just listened to that one -- it's really, really lovely, arrangement and song both.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I've been on the "White Cedar" bandwagon for a little while now
this whole album is a gigantic ball of YAY
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
Like a village on the steppe/About to get collectivized.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
well this is great
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm totally infatuated, oh hell in luv at first listening, which doesn't always happen w MGs or much else. Seems like, if you are a The Hold Steady fan but getting a bit frustrated with creative lovehandles, rest assured this contains no fat, but plenty crucial lyric and especially sonic detail, in questing, cunning and at rate unstoppable underdog tales. Also, if you're frustrated by good horn sections wasted on, say the St/ Vincent/Byrne thing (yeah I'll listen again, or maybe not), well you've come to the right place, as Elvis would say. Kind of a King Creole pang-vibe here, the metal-compatible spirit too.
― dow, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Not to downplay the, what can I call it, clear-eyed, also blues-compatible spirit, compatible also with (and not slowed down or upstaged by) reading Tricia Romano's Twitter funeral pyre for Village Voice just now (not to sidetrack this thread, but was struck by compatility, water and everything in it rolling under the musical bridge)
― dow, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway, Top Ten baby, P&J or whatEVAH
― dow, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
fantastic record. "until i am whole" really perfectly describes a set of months i had this year
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
oh and "spent gladiator 2," that really spare groove they ride on is mean as hell
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder if this is gonna be on spotify and if anyone shall we say close with the band might comment on that
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 September 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
merge has all their stuff up there iircanyway, joe perry woefully underutilized here, but otherwise great!
― tylerw, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
sounds good. not very mountain goats though. has their music ever sounded as rich and subtly arranged before?
― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
has their music ever sounded as rich and subtly arranged before?
we shall all be healed imo. get lonely too, which incidentally is the other record with horns
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
He's been heading in this direction for a while. Get Lonely and The Life of The World To Come were especially lush. This one just isn't as sparse as those records (which may be why I already like it better).
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not as fond of this one as I was of last year's outstanding album.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
The last 4 or 5 records sound absolutely gorgeous. The recording, mixing and mastering are sublime.
On first listen I'm with Alfred. Some great songs, but nothing grabbed me by the lapels like so much of the last two albums.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
All of the last 4-5 records have been varying degrees of wonderful, but Life of the World to Come was the one that still hits me the hardest. Really looking forward to sitting down with this one.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't hear the last albums but this one seems pretty decent. Almost as good as Tallahassee. Which was a completely different beast of course. This one seems lighter and not as grave on first listen.
― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
It took me about three listens to All Eternal's Deck for like to turn to love. One listen in, I'm still at like with this one, but I take that as a positive sign.
(Get Lonely, alas, never grew on me, and TLOTWTC only ever did slightly.)
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this isn't knocking me out like All Eternals Deck--the strings on "Age of Kings," backing vocals on "High Hawk Season," etc. were like perfect backing for the lyrics, some of that record almost has a Paris 1919 vibe to me--but this definitely has a lot of great stuff on it, "White Cedar" and "Diaz Brothers" are great for sure
― fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
It may sound banal, and I certainly don't mean it to, but I have a feeling that All Eternal's Deck may come to exemplify what we mean when we say "typically great new Mountain Goats record."
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
agreed, it was the first goats record that didn't leave much of an impression on me. i listened to it a few weeks ago and nothing jumped out at me save for "high hawk season"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
whereas every song for me was a discrete entity: my fave MG since 2005.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed w/Alfred.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
I have only had one playthrough with Transcendental Youth but I knew "White Cedar" so I was expecting awesome; I was not disappointed.
My pattern has generally been "most recent release = fave", although my favorite song is probably a tossup between "Ezekiel 7 and the Permanent Efficacy of Grace" and "No Children"
special place in my heart for "Damn These Vampires" and "Lovecraft In Brooklyn" and "Sax Rohmer #1" as well
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
"Beautiful Gas Mask" is my favorite from the last several years.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
pale green things and damn these vampires are the only two that spontaneously come to mind now and then, but that's just because i like them as individual phrases i think
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
ha, i hear that from a lot of people! it's strange how i just never got into it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
Diaz Brothers is very very paris 1919/john cale.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
In Memory of Satan keeps reminding me of summerteeth: "ashtray says..."
― s.clover, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
people might laugh at your tattoos/ when they do get new ones in completely garish hues
― save the game like a memory card (cajunsunday), Friday, 28 September 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
Really really enjoying this one after not making a huge amount of headway with All Eternals Deck. 'In Memory of Satan' being a particular highlight. Could do without those weird backing vocals on 'Until I Am Whole Again; but that's just nitpicking really.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
This post on the AV club discussion of the new album made me lol http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-mountain-goats-transcendental-youth,85936/ especially as there's a good chance he'd agree on some of them.
More than one hundred bands with "goat" in their name better than this one1. Necrosadistic Goat Torture (a.k.a. N.G.T.) Death/Black Metal United Kingdom2. Progetto:ChaosGoat.666 (a.k.a. PCG666) Black Metal/Noise Italy3. Satan's Goat Black/Thrash/Doom Metal UnitedStates4. Satanik Goat Ritual (a.k.a. Satanic GoatRitual) Black/Death Metal United States5. Sign of the Goat (a.k.a. SOTG) Black Metal UnitedStates6. Super Heavy Goat Ass (a.k.a.SuperHeavyGoatAss) Stoner/Southern Metal United States7. The Austrasian Goat (a.k.a. TAG) Funeral Doom/Black Metal France8. The Black Goat Order (a.k.a. BGO) Black Metal Canada9. The Goat Radio Thrash Metal Finland10. Throwing the Goat Thrash Metal Australia11. Ye Goat-Herd Gods Black Metal Canada12. Black Goat of the Woods Black Metal/Grindcore United States13. Goathanger (a.k.a. Goat Hanger) Groove Metal Australia14. Goatholocaust (a.k.a. Goat Holocaust) Black Metal Belgium15. Goatpuncher (a.k.a. Goat Puncher) Melodic Death Metal United Kingdom16. Goatsoldiers (a.k.a. Goat Soldiers) Black/Thrash Metal United States17. Goatvomit (a.k.a. Goat Vomit) Black Metal UnitedStates18. Goatwar (a.k.a. Goat War) Black Metal Canada19. Lady Reaper (a.k.a. Goat Arse) Black Metal Slovakia20. Moorgate (a.k.a. More Goat) Death/Black Metal Sweden21. Nauseating Tepid Whiff (a.k.a. Black Goat) Black Metal France22. Nazgoat (a.k.a. Nazarene Goat) Black Metal Italy23. Nocturnal Graves (a.k.a. Nocturnal Goat) Blackened Thrash Metal Australia24. Wolfen Reich (a.k.a. Goat Ritual) Black Metal UnitedStates25. GoateatGod (a.k.a. Goat Eat God) Black Metal Greece26. Milking the Goatmachine (a.k.a. Milking theGoat Machine) Brutal DeathMetal/Grindcore Germany 27. Goat Vulva (a.k.a. Goatvulva) Black Metal Finland28. Goat Warlord Death/Black Metal UnitedStates29. Goat Worship (a.k.a. Jatunheimen) Black Metal Denmark30. Goat Wrath BlackMetal Germany31. Goat-Tech BlackMetal Brazil32. GoatPenis Black/DeathMetal Brazil33. Hell Goat (a.k.a. Hellgoat) Southern Metal United States34. Infernal Goat Black Metal Italy35. LavaGoat Doom/DeathMetal Canada36. Malignus Goat Raw Black Metal Brazil37. Maniac Goat Black Metal Brazil38. Mountain Goat Stoner/Sludge Metal UnitedStates39. Nuklear Goat Black Metal Portugal40. Old Goat BlackMetal United States41. Putrid Goat Death/Doom Metal UnitedStates42. Sabbatic Goat Black/Death Metal NewZealand43. Sabbatical Goat Black/Thrash Metal (early), Death Metal (later) Netherlands44. Sacro Goat BlackMetal Brazil45. Scape.Goat Thrash/DeathMetal France46. Shit Goat ProgressiveThrash Metal United States47. Von Goat BlackMetal United States48. Arch Goat of Sodomy Death/Black Metal/Grindcore UnitedStates49. Black Goat Attack Black Metal Denmark50. Goat of Mendes Heavy/Folk/Pagan Metal Germany51. Goat the Head Death Metal Norway52. Goat's Ass Trumpet Doom/Death Metal Finland53. Hallowed Be Thy Goat Black Metal France54. King Fire Goat Sludge Metal UnitedStates55. Mighty Goat Obscenity Black Metal Brazil56. Morbid Goat Fornicator Black/Death Metal Chile57. Goat Emperor Black Metal Brazil58. Goat Evil RawBlack Metal Bosnia and Herzegovina59. Goat Funeral (a.k.a. GoatFuneral) Black Metal Germany60. Goat Horn Heavy/DoomMetal Canada61. Goat Horns BlackMetal United Kingdom62. Goat Inferno Raw Black Metal Germany63. Goat Invocation Black Metal Brazil64. Goat Messiah Black Metal Switzerland65. Goat Molestation Black Metal UnitedStates66. Goat Molestör Black/Death Metal UnitedKingdom67. Goat Perversion Black Metal Brazil68. Goat Perversion Black/Death Metal Bulgaria69. Goat Perversion Black Metal Mexico70. Goat Perversör Black/Thrash Metal Belgium71. Goat Phallus Black/Death/Thrash Metal Greece72. Goat Prayers Atmospheric Black Metal Brazil73. Goat Ritual Black Metal Bosniaand Herzegovina74. Goat River Stoner/DoomMetal France75. Goat Semen (a.k.a. Goatsemen) Death/Black Metal Peru76. Goat Serpent Death Metal Finland77. Goat Skull BlackMetal Mexico78. Goat Slime BlackMetal United States79. Goat Synagogue Black Metal Greece80. Goat Terrorism Black Metal Netherlands81. Goat Thron (a.k.a. Throne of Goat) Raw Black Metal (early), DarkIndustrial Noise/ Dark Ambient (later) Poland82. Goat Throttler Death Metal UnitedKingdom83. Goat Torment Black Metal Belgium84. Goat Tunnel Doom Metal Finland85. Goat Tyrant Blackened Thrash/Death Metal Poland86. Goat Vengeance Black Metal Brazil87. Goat Vomit DeathMetal/Grindcore/Crust Belgium88. Goat Stoner/SludgeMetal Australia89. Goat Death/BlackMetal Denmark90. Billy Goat Heavy/PowerMetal Spain91. Black Goat BlackMetal Russia92. Black Goat BlackMetal (early), Blackened Thrash Metal (later) Spain93. Black Goat BlackMetal United States94. Blood Goat BlackMetal United States95. Dead Goat BlackMetal Norway96. Dehydrated Goat Death Metal/Grindcore Latvia97. Eternal Goat Black Metal Thailand98. Floating Goat Stoner Metal UnitedStates99. Funeral Goat Black Metal Netherlands100.Goat Altar Black/DeathMetal Netherlands101.Goat Anus BlackMetal Netherlands102.Goat Bleeder Death Metal with Grindcore influences United States103.Goat Command Black/Thrash Metal Chile104.Goat Eater Grindcore Serbia
1. Necrosadistic Goat Torture (a.k.a. N.G.T.) Death/Black Metal United Kingdom
2. Progetto:ChaosGoat.666 (a.k.a. PCG666) Black Metal/Noise Italy
3. Satan's Goat Black/Thrash/Doom Metal UnitedStates
4. Satanik Goat Ritual (a.k.a. Satanic GoatRitual) Black/Death Metal United States
5. Sign of the Goat (a.k.a. SOTG) Black Metal UnitedStates
6. Super Heavy Goat Ass (a.k.a.SuperHeavyGoatAss) Stoner/Southern Metal United States
7. The Austrasian Goat (a.k.a. TAG) Funeral Doom/Black Metal France
8. The Black Goat Order (a.k.a. BGO) Black Metal Canada
9. The Goat Radio Thrash Metal Finland
10. Throwing the Goat Thrash Metal Australia
11. Ye Goat-Herd Gods Black Metal Canada
12. Black Goat of the Woods Black Metal/Grindcore United States
13. Goathanger (a.k.a. Goat Hanger) Groove Metal Australia
14. Goatholocaust (a.k.a. Goat Holocaust) Black Metal Belgium
15. Goatpuncher (a.k.a. Goat Puncher) Melodic Death Metal United Kingdom
16. Goatsoldiers (a.k.a. Goat Soldiers) Black/Thrash Metal United States
17. Goatvomit (a.k.a. Goat Vomit) Black Metal UnitedStates
18. Goatwar (a.k.a. Goat War) Black Metal Canada
19. Lady Reaper (a.k.a. Goat Arse) Black Metal Slovakia
20. Moorgate (a.k.a. More Goat) Death/Black Metal Sweden
21. Nauseating Tepid Whiff (a.k.a. Black Goat) Black Metal France
22. Nazgoat (a.k.a. Nazarene Goat) Black Metal Italy
23. Nocturnal Graves (a.k.a. Nocturnal Goat) Blackened Thrash Metal Australia
24. Wolfen Reich (a.k.a. Goat Ritual) Black Metal UnitedStates
25. GoateatGod (a.k.a. Goat Eat God) Black Metal Greece
26. Milking the Goatmachine (a.k.a. Milking theGoat Machine) Brutal DeathMetal/Grindcore Germany
27. Goat Vulva (a.k.a. Goatvulva) Black Metal Finland
28. Goat Warlord Death/Black Metal UnitedStates
29. Goat Worship (a.k.a. Jatunheimen) Black Metal Denmark
30. Goat Wrath BlackMetal Germany
31. Goat-Tech BlackMetal Brazil
32. GoatPenis Black/DeathMetal Brazil
33. Hell Goat (a.k.a. Hellgoat) Southern Metal United States
34. Infernal Goat Black Metal Italy
35. LavaGoat Doom/DeathMetal Canada
36. Malignus Goat Raw Black Metal Brazil
37. Maniac Goat Black Metal Brazil
38. Mountain Goat Stoner/Sludge Metal UnitedStates
39. Nuklear Goat Black Metal Portugal
40. Old Goat BlackMetal United States
41. Putrid Goat Death/Doom Metal UnitedStates
42. Sabbatic Goat Black/Death Metal NewZealand
43. Sabbatical Goat Black/Thrash Metal (early), Death Metal (later) Netherlands
44. Sacro Goat BlackMetal Brazil
45. Scape.Goat Thrash/DeathMetal France
46. Shit Goat ProgressiveThrash Metal United States
47. Von Goat BlackMetal United States
48. Arch Goat of Sodomy Death/Black Metal/Grindcore UnitedStates
49. Black Goat Attack Black Metal Denmark
50. Goat of Mendes Heavy/Folk/Pagan Metal Germany
51. Goat the Head Death Metal Norway
52. Goat's Ass Trumpet Doom/Death Metal Finland
53. Hallowed Be Thy Goat Black Metal France
54. King Fire Goat Sludge Metal UnitedStates
55. Mighty Goat Obscenity Black Metal Brazil
56. Morbid Goat Fornicator Black/Death Metal Chile
57. Goat Emperor Black Metal Brazil
58. Goat Evil RawBlack Metal Bosnia and Herzegovina
59. Goat Funeral (a.k.a. GoatFuneral) Black Metal Germany
60. Goat Horn Heavy/DoomMetal Canada
61. Goat Horns BlackMetal United Kingdom
62. Goat Inferno Raw Black Metal Germany
63. Goat Invocation Black Metal Brazil
64. Goat Messiah Black Metal Switzerland
65. Goat Molestation Black Metal UnitedStates
66. Goat Molestör Black/Death Metal UnitedKingdom
67. Goat Perversion Black Metal Brazil
68. Goat Perversion Black/Death Metal Bulgaria
69. Goat Perversion Black Metal Mexico
70. Goat Perversör Black/Thrash Metal Belgium
71. Goat Phallus Black/Death/Thrash Metal Greece
72. Goat Prayers Atmospheric Black Metal Brazil
73. Goat Ritual Black Metal Bosniaand Herzegovina
74. Goat River Stoner/DoomMetal France
75. Goat Semen (a.k.a. Goatsemen) Death/Black Metal Peru
76. Goat Serpent Death Metal Finland
77. Goat Skull BlackMetal Mexico
78. Goat Slime BlackMetal United States
79. Goat Synagogue Black Metal Greece
80. Goat Terrorism Black Metal Netherlands
81. Goat Thron (a.k.a. Throne of Goat) Raw Black Metal (early), DarkIndustrial Noise/ Dark Ambient (later) Poland
82. Goat Throttler Death Metal UnitedKingdom
83. Goat Torment Black Metal Belgium
84. Goat Tunnel Doom Metal Finland
85. Goat Tyrant Blackened Thrash/Death Metal Poland
86. Goat Vengeance Black Metal Brazil
87. Goat Vomit DeathMetal/Grindcore/Crust Belgium
88. Goat Stoner/SludgeMetal Australia
89. Goat Death/BlackMetal Denmark
90. Billy Goat Heavy/PowerMetal Spain
91. Black Goat BlackMetal Russia
92. Black Goat BlackMetal (early), Blackened Thrash Metal (later) Spain
93. Black Goat BlackMetal United States
94. Blood Goat BlackMetal United States
95. Dead Goat BlackMetal Norway
96. Dehydrated Goat Death Metal/Grindcore Latvia
97. Eternal Goat Black Metal Thailand
98. Floating Goat Stoner Metal UnitedStates
99. Funeral Goat Black Metal Netherlands
100.Goat Altar Black/DeathMetal Netherlands
101.Goat Anus BlackMetal Netherlands
102.Goat Bleeder Death Metal with Grindcore influences United States
103.Goat Command Black/Thrash Metal Chile
104.Goat Eater Grindcore Serbia
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
poll
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
I think Lady Reaper aka Goat Arse probably walks that poll
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
strong challenge from Shit Goat IMO
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Goat Tunnel has me scratching my head.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
the sequence from 13 to 19 is kind of amazing tbh
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
if I can just be a bestial black metal* pedant for a minute here there's a band called Sadomator aka Sadogoat who're kind of elite & their absence on this list speaks poorly of its compiler
*actual subgenre that's mainly in play here
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
I thought all black metal was bestial to a greater or lesser degree.
Goat Molestör FTW, for the general ewwness of the name and the umlaut.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
goat vengeance tho
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Goat Thron (a.k.a. Throne of Goat)
there are so many great names here
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Super Heavy Goat Ass (a.k.a. SuperHeavyGoatAss)
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
why are itunes uk being dicks and not releasing this till friday ;_;
― I got the Boyzone, I got the remedy (ledge), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is a good one, i will definitely Purchase it
diaz brothers <-> paris 1919 comparison is pretty apt, and awesome
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
writing my phd thesis on lexical choices in black metal group names & their indications of national identity, this is a fascinating contrast
― unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Goat Semen (a.k.a. Goatsemen)
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
goatse men
this is really great!white cedars is gorgeous
the diaz brothers is power pop!
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
also conspicuously absent from that list: chapel hill's own GOAT THROWER!!!
― beta male misogyny is here to stay (bernard snowy), Thursday, 4 October 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
wher is lubricated goat
― linalooool (electricsound), Thursday, 4 October 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
re: this album: didn't like it at first but now I love it. might help that I somehow ended up making lovefucking to it the other day? pretty sure I came during "The Diaz Brothers"
also: sitting at a red light just now on my way home from work, with windows down and screaming along (as is my wont), the line "Mistreat your altarboys long enough and this is what you get" earned a "woo!" from one of the cars next to me
― beta male misogyny is here to stay (bernard snowy), Thursday, 4 October 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
A review from a most unlikely source!
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-mountain-goats-disco-purgatorio/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Larison: Mountain Goats Album a "Stunning" Repudiation of Romney Campaign
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Eve Tushnet is a great cyberpunk trait-name.
― borscht and bikinis (how's life), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Video for "Cry for Judas"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bptnhUOG2GU
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
friend of mine said they killed it last night
― carne asada, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
I am dead excited to see them this weekend. I do a lot of tMG listening but every time I see them there'll be multiple requests for songs I've never heard of, or the name has escaped me, and I'll get the sensation that people are just making up song titles on the spot. "Play 'Queen of Cups'! 'The paw of Romulus'! 'Alpha Fright Night'! 'Orange ball of empathy'!"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
theme song from armageddon
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Okay everyone go see this tour, it's fucking incredible
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
this was one of my favorite mountain goats shows i've seen. the horns are a really great addition.
i was wildly impressed with matthew e white, also.
― kaygee, Friday, 19 October 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
paw of romulus is a jam
― zvookster, Friday, 19 October 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
well what the shit, i had no idea this tour was happening and they are here next wednesday, and i dont have anything to do that night so well holy shit awesome
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Friday, 19 October 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.daytrotter.com/#!/concert/the-mountain-goats/20055796-3737475
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Friday, 19 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
show highlights for me:
1. Ezekiel 7 and the Permanent Efficacy of Grace - this song flat-out slays me and the version they did was just beautiful; absolutely haunting, turning fragility into the most powerful musical weapon imaginable2. Space Gladiator 1 aka Amy - all of the new uptempo songs were unbelievably tight but this one in particular hummed top to bottom, from the initial stick beats that counted the band in, over the "tattoos/garish hues" bridge to the perfect abrupt ending3. the horns - OH MY GOD THE HORNS you just can't even imagine the shivers caused by "White Cedar" and "Cry For Judas"4. Due to confusion about when Matthew E. White was going on, we missed about half of that set, which sucks because what we heard was WAU AWESOME
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
"Space Gladiator"!!
― have you ever even *seen* a cliche?? (bernard snowy), Friday, 19 October 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
lol I have just now realized that is not actually the title of that song
I'm calling it that anyway
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
you'll hear no objection from me... mountain goats space gladiator concept album sounds amazeballs!
(speaking of which: should I bite the bullet and give Moon Colony Bloodbath a listen? for whatever reason, I've always avoided it, expecting it to be disappointing... but I have no idea what gave me that impression)
― have you ever even *seen* a cliche?? (bernard snowy), Friday, 19 October 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say definitely yes, that entire cluster of vinyl releases (w/ black pear tree and satanic messiah) was very strong imo.
― i've hidden a white teen on Crimedoer Mountain (reddening), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
seriously though, Ezekial 7 may be my overall favorite MG song
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
my only prob w/that great record is that i have no idea what the titles of the songs are unless i have my ipod handy
― i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
E7 = the last song, dreamy piano ballad "drive 'til the rain stops/keep driving"
"1 Samuel 15:23", the moody first track with the "peel grapes" line and the rumbling toms, is also bad ass
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
ah gotcha...haha i call that other song "peel grapes" in my head actually
― i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
mountain goats space gladiator concept album sounds amazeballs!
― have you ever even *seen* a cliche?? (bernard snowy), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
also: "PLANT grapes" ffs you charlatans!
― have you ever even *seen* a cliche?? (bernard snowy), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.moldychum.com/storage/rpb.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1299550631318
― nice suit (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link
Why oh why is this tour coming to Milwaukee and Minneapolis but not Madison?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
I honestly cannot type anything correctly today, I could have sworn I wrote "plant"
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Saturday, 20 October 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
Seeing JD do Ezekiel 7 at the Royal Festival Hall show - his first with solo piano? - is something I'll hopefully never forget.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 20 October 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
Was that the show with Anonymous 4? It was amazing, and to an extent the reason I've been having trouble getting into this album is that it's not that show (which I was warned of directly from the stage!)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 20 October 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Nope, this was back in...2009? The Life of the World to Come had just been released and then entire crowd knew every word from it. Such a special special gig.
Annonymous 4 w/Owen Pallet at the Barbican was also amazing - upthread I praised/thanked Owen for making the first gig my younger brother ever went to one to remember...at the time I did not know who [redacted] was, and as such did not extend my thank yous to him, an act of which I am now regretful for. So, [redacted], thank you for everything.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 20 October 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Wish I could go to show on Monday but Grand Rapids is a loooong drive.
― Sug ban (Nicole), Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
I'd posit that one's memory of the A4 show is strengthened by the temporality of that programme's existence. Not that it was bad (or even merely good, I was thrilled tbh) but these songs are strong in any context and the album versions do them all great justice.
― sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
oh what I mean is that the fleeting nature of the A4 thing was a good aesthetic move, "One night only!" etc.
― sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
Oh for sure - I'm just mentioning the unexpected effect it had on me.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8GbLFApNK0
boom
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
[mod edit] I just wanted to mention your new record slays, and moved me deeply. keep on etc
― Simon H., Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
show tonight was the shit, horn section add-on is badass, people in future spots on the tour should just go buy those tickets right now.
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8474/8126137405_50a1e9d131.jpg
Thanks for the autograph!
My buddy just mailed this to me from the New York show. Listening to it in traditional Wisconsin fashion, with local microbrews.
― Josiah Alan, Friday, 26 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
i've never seen john live. what i've read about some of his diehard fans makes me think i would feel kind of uncomfortable (i am easily made uncomfortable). maybe if i just stay in the back by the bar with my SO and don't make eye contact with anyone.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
Mountain Goats are definitely the band I'm most irritated about still never having seen live.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
GO SEE THEM THEY ARE AWESOME AND AMAZING
also, due to the nature of the fans, you don't actually have to engage them at the show and you can be in your own bubble buffeted by awesome music
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'm excited to finally see them in December.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
what was that early-00s band that would appear on MTV with an adoring teenage crowd sitting around them as if they were a campfire and earnestly sing along with every emo word?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
like dashboard police or something.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
Dashboard Confessional?
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. i was kind of picturing that type of scenario, with me awkwardly handing a beer standing against the back wall wishing i were somewhere else.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
handling
the crowd is entirely ignorable because since you aren't JD, they will not give two fucks about you and you are therefore free to put as much of your attention on the music as you want
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
I have heard a rumor that the tMG singer once back in the small-small club days had a fan/heckler try to get his attention all night by requesting "screaming infidelities" all night. RIP fan/heckler guy may someone someday find the body
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
― how's life, Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
Not only did Dashboard Confessional appear on tv like that, they also released a live album (2 records into their career, natch) complete with overbearing crowd singalong intact.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, October 26, 2012 9:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sold.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
i just have to make sure not to go to the show with the one or two work colleagues who appear to be part of john's diehard emo fanbase. one of them routinely pops into the offices of anyone he suspects might have mountain-goat sympathies and almost-whispers "do you like the mountain goats?!"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
oh course, although i do, the answer has to be "not really."
surprise surprise dude is also bit of an oversharer
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
he should be our secret
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
I did an opera chorus with a dude who was a huge Mountain Goats fan who also made himself into the lead tenor's boy toy for the duration of our run; apparently the lead tenor told all the other leads about how much he liked to cum on this dude's face
and that is my story about my relationship with a hardcore MG fan
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
lock thread
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
omg
dying irl right now
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
"the crowd is entirely ignorable because since you aren't JD, they will not give two fucks about you and you are therefore free to put as much of your attention on the music as you want"
bruh this is not true, the one tMG show I was at there was a guy loudly jumping around and he kept screaming shit in my direction like "DO YOU LIKE SATANIC BLACK METAL LIKE JOHN DOES"
he was the coolest guy
― don't trust the lil b in apartment 23 (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 27 October 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
well, if I ever get the opportunity to ejaculate on someone's face, I can only hope it's to the pleasing sounds of The Mountain Goats
― d-_-b (mh), Saturday, 27 October 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
I have no horse in the race but that is my favorite post ever
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 27 October 2012 05:58 (eleven years ago) link
I hope to see that used in press releases and adverts for many years to come.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 27 October 2012 07:00 (eleven years ago) link
I would like to continue to endorse this show, but at no point during the show did I ejaculate into someone's face. I would like to know if this is still ok, please advise.
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 27 October 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link
Guys, I think I did it wrong ;_;
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Saturday, 27 October 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
― d-_-b (mh), Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:02 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
should be on the promo sticker slapped on his next album
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 October 2012 07:34 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/event/music/148782993/the-mountain-goats-and-anonymous-4
There's that Anonymous 4 show if anyone's still interested, my friend went to that as well and said it was very impressive.
― Josiah Alan, Saturday, 27 October 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
Their album the Origin of Fire is probably my favorite vocal based album of all time, except for maybe the Berliner Messe album of Arvo Part's music.
I was sitting listening to it at work and a guy came in off the floor listens to it a second and says "you getting so high to this at home, right?"
― Josiah Alan, Saturday, 27 October 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
my mom borrowed my car today and i forgot that the new MG cd was still in the player. when she came back she said "i don't know what cd that is, but it's the most depressing thing i've ever heard. the music sounds so nice and normal, and then he starts talking about throwing up in the sink!"
― sad faces at Terror Castle (reddening), Sunday, 11 November 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
when i was like twenty and had tallahassee playing in the car when my dad was driving me back from college his reaction to 'no children' was "god, this is a cheerful record, isn't it?"
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 11 November 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
I will never understand the logic by which Christgau decides which Mountain Goats albums he likes and which he thinks are meh.
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/expert-witness-blogpost.aspx?post=ba99127c-adef-493f-b83c-35ba2ff18c68
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Sunday, 11 November 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
Thorny to begin with, John Darnielle reached some near-perfect threshold of liminal comprehensibility with Tallahassee 10 years ago, then got thornier again, albeit in liminally comprehensible mode.
One of the must aggravating writers that ever lived
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
ahaha i kind of love that sentence
also
But the dealmaker is Jon Wurster's spare, inescapable drumming.
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
otm. I loved the last one, this one okay.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
xgau and underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned are in, like, near-complete accord as to which mountain goats albums are the best ones. (he didn't think the sunset tree succeeded, I don't know what to say about that.) but he was the only guy repping for "we shall all be healed," which, like, there are people in mountain goats camp who'll go to their graves still pissed that only xgau, at the time, seemed to get it. and his line on "autoclave" was so dead-on it was like, lol, ok, pwn3d, advantage xgau
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
I gate the MG's a try on the strength of his WSABH review, and it's still my favorite.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
We Shall All Be Healed is my go-to MGs album fwiw.
― crüt, Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
we shall all be healed is absolutely my favorite tmg record, followed by get lonely
very singular moods nailed on both of those
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
At least his longer stuff he can have some point, I bet the consumer guide woulda been something like:
The Mountain Goats - Transcendental Youth
The Mountain Goats' John Darnielle writes mini rock operas like a guy that went to Sunday school in between shifts at Dairy Queen. Too bad I never much liked onion rings. B+
― captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
ok lol
― EZee4snappin (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
m@tt if i ever get another editing gig my first priority is to give you a whole page to do that
― idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
haha. my christgau instincts are insisting that i try to unpack that.
― fun facts about human waste (Merdeyeux), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
(he didn't think the sunset tree succeeded, I don't know what to say about that.)
I was surprised he only gave it an honorable mention originally, but he slapped into the dean's list at the end of the year so his opinion must have improved over the year.
― da croupier, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
DQ onion rings were never too popular at my location. Most customers preferred to offset the heaviness of their chicken strip basket with a delicate combo of an extra gravy tub, mayo for the fries, and an oreo blizzard.
― Eccsame the Photon Guys (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
my tastes are not unlike xgau in re all this stuff (shocking), though my two Pick Hits are Sunset and Healed rather than Healed and Tallahassee
― da croupier, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
I checked into a bargain priced room on La Cienega,gazed out through the curtains of the parking lot.walked down to the Dairy Queen just before nightfall in my bare feet.black tarry asphalt, soft and hot.and when I came back I spread out my supplies.on the counter by the sink, I looked myself right in the eyes
an extra tub of gravy,mayo and fries,and you or your memory (stares at empty blizzard cup)
― Eccsame the Photon Guys (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
Tallahassee / We Shall All Be Healed / The Sunset Tree is as brilliant a run of albums as any in the previous decade.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
Saw my first Mountain Goats show tonight. It was very good, and sweet baby Jesus does "This Year" rule with the added horns. When I told John that at the merch table he said it was new to this leg of the tour, so I'm glad to be on this second go round.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
The Diaz Brothers has been lodged in my head for the better part of a month and shows no signs of leaving any time soon. That is one catchy chorus.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 7 December 2012 05:49 (eleven years ago) link
Awww:
http://twitpic.com/bm9mv8
― etc, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
The Diaz Brothers is still stuck in my head. It is the catchiest song in years. Holy moley. How come more people aren't singing its praises?
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, I still haven't heard the new album, but did you catch that there is a whitehouse.gov position to make JD our next poet laureate?
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-mountain-goats-and-name-john-darnielle-us-poet-laureate/4X2y05sH
I've been thinking about starting a counter-petition to nominate David Berman.
― how's life, Sunday, 30 December 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
Do you have to be an American citizen to sign a White House petition?
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
A good interview.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
t's easy to get lots in the shoots and ladders game of his many characters
o rly
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
gf was watching New Girl and I was convinced Zooey's boyfriend was being played by Jon Wurster
― Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
This is neat. 1 minutes worth of a video for 'Wild Sage' made by Rian Johnson. Its really good but a shame it wasnt finished.
http://rcjohnso.tumblr.com/post/43268810808/back-in-2006-when-we-shot-the-woke-up-new-music
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
For those of y'all who don't also have the Bieber thread bookmarked
http://pitchfork.com/news/49873-watch-john-darnielle-defends-justin-bieber-lectures-paparazzi-in-song/
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
the amazing thing about this guy is how prolific of a musical career he's already had by the tender age of 31.
― how's life, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
i like that mode for john d
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
There's a nice clean non-live version of You Were Cool at the end of his WTF btw
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
930 Club show sold out before I bought a ticket. Oh well, have seen 'em/him before.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Transcendental Youth is so good. Love the horns and also the cover art is my favorite yet for a mountain goats record.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
dunno if this has been mentioned upthread but "Steal Smoked Fish" and "Western Hills", from the bonus 7"/subsequent digital release, are both outstanding, especially if you feel like crying and/or resent the variety of instrumental textures on recent tMG albums
― Excelsior twilight. Harpsichord wind through the trees. (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
Boy do I feel stupid. TMG are playing literally a mile from my house and I missed being able to get tickets. Its in a pretty cool venue too. Dammit.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 25 May 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
http://exeterrecordclub.com/2013/09/19/the-mountain-goats-tallahassee-round-4-nicks-choice/
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
aww shit the london show is sold out. anyone know of how to get a hold of two tickets?
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 26 September 2013 07:10 (ten years ago) link
I doubt Aero reads this thread, but if he does:
THANK YOU FOR THE BEST GIG I'VE EVER BEEN TO
Jenny/Wild Sage back to back was just...fuck
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 08:14 (ten years ago) link
man.. wish i could have been there. havent seen tMG live for so long
― just sayin, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 08:20 (ten years ago) link
:( for not being able to get tickets
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 10:40 (ten years ago) link
― check yr poptimism (imago), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link
wait, so you can't just get in with your ILX Gold™ ID card?
― Treeship, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
Certainly didn't get me in downstairs. Arrived at 8, & ended up 3rd row back in the side balcony. Boy those MG's fans are an eager lot.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
:) that the show was sold out
― you and me against the board (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
iirc his shows elsewhere in the UK aren't sold out but I'm not spending £70 on a rail ticket
the one time I did see him (at the QEH) he put on an incredible solo show - his work grabbed me more in this context than on record, to tell the truth, so it's great he's still doing European tours. long may it continue!
― check yr poptimism (imago), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
So, did John do a Zombie cameo to go with the song?
― MV, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link
Is "All Eternals Deck" anyone else's favorite MG record?
― Treeship, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 02:25 (ten years ago) link
There's gonna be a novel! http://fsgbooks.tumblr.com/post/78467383698/there-are-professional-thrills-and-there-are
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:11 (ten years ago) link
― Treeship
The best of the recent lot
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link
If "the recent lot" is, say, Heretic Pride onward, it's my second fave. "Harlem Roulette" and "Cry for Judas" nudge Transcendental Youth just a tad ahead of it, for me.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:34 (ten years ago) link
As for the novel, of course I'm pumped (very little recent literary fiction I've encountered matches his Master of Reality volume), but a fall release all but guarantees that I probably won't get around to reading it til around Summer 2015, at the earliest.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:39 (ten years ago) link
I'm one.of the.old.like their old stuff.better people so it would be Full Force Galesborg or Sweden easy. I know that J.Darinelle would vehemently disagree but I just don't get that same sense of bleeding brilliance from.any of the modern productions. Despite there.being a tonne of.great songs scattered about the more pristine recent lot.
― Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:39 (ten years ago) link
I think both production approaches have their drawbacks and virtues but I don't think his songwriting's ever declined.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link
first track on sweden is breathtaking.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 03:59 (ten years ago) link
I was happy to hear Mountain Goats on the Walking Dead, it took a second to click. But I'm sort of with hinkle, Zopilote Machine, The Hound Chronicles, Sweden, Hot Garden Stomp, those tapes and cds were the soundtrack to my high school days. I've only heard a few scattered songs after Nothing For Juice, I should check out his newer hi-fi records?
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
Yes, absolutely, but don't miss the later lo-fi ones while you're at it (All Hail West Texas especially).
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:17 (ten years ago) link
The life of the world to come resonates most strongly with me. Had a long drive up the California coast with that one.
― 4. Nels Cline and My Uncle Eat Soup at Panera Bread (3:37) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link
Am a little surprised, given the novel's description, that it's apparently only 200 pages. Looking forward to reading it, in any case.
― MV, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link
I like All Eternals Deck a lot, but then I would
― Wahaca Flocka Flame (DJP), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:33 (ten years ago) link
"all hail west texas" is probably my favorite of the lofi albums. i really don't prefer the very earliest material but i barely ever do with any artist.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:55 (ten years ago) link
jacobsanders, listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVws52PPvEA&feature=kp
― Treeship, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 05:06 (ten years ago) link
I was happy to hear Mountain Goats on the Walking Dead, it took a second to click.
I can't really deal with this show, but my wife and son watch it every week. I was downstairs folding laundry and they were upstairs jamming (albeit unknowingly) to the Mountain Goats?
― set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link
what happened to your wife that caused her to be unable to recognize mountain goats songs?
― james franco, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:38 (ten years ago) link
We don't share musical tastes.
― set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:40 (ten years ago) link
What MG song was on The Walking Dead?
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link
i think the sunset tree will always be my favorite, and that's no disrespect to any of the records that came before or after
but it feels intensely felt in a way, obviously because of the subject matter, cannot be repeated
― gimme the lute (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
I have written an "every Mountain Goats song, ranked" listicle, John'd better behave or I will submit that listicle
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
the threat of imminent mountain goats character compendium
― 4. Nels Cline and My Uncle Eat Soup at Panera Bread (3:37) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
Dear Mr. Tyler,How did you end up with a track on the CD accompanying this? http://southerncultures.org/2013/02/15/spring-2013-issue-global-southern-music/ I couldn't figure out at all which article it tied into,
Regards,James Redd
― We Shield Millions Now Living Who Will Never Die (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Howl In My Passway?Elvis Down Under?Aloha Blues?
― We Shield Millions Now Living Who Will Never Die (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link
Rubber Ring Shout?
― We Shield Millions Now Living Who Will Never Die (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:35 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_gGUT8f9i4
― (or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
Mountain Goat Dew?
― We Shield Millions Now Living Who Will Never Die (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
this really isn't the place for this but when there're anthology CDs the process usually involves magazines writing to managers/publicists and artists signing off for zero dollars on the idea that being on something that might reach new ears is a good idea as long as the venue seems kinda cool and not something weird like a McDonalds giveaway or whatever
― (or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFeforW2ycI
― très hip (Treeship), Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
so I always found the title of "Up the Wolves" off The Sunset Tree to be kinda mystifying much moreso than the actual lyrical content), and then just now I made the connection with thishttp://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/3/1/9/1319.jpg... which seems like a plausible source, but idk
― Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link
it is possible that in this one instance I have overestimated the influence of Mr. Ronnie James Dio
― Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Sunday, 6 April 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
So I just discovered that les Goats are going to be part of this summer's free concert series at the Rock and ROll Hall of Fame, which is right by my office. Woo!
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 7 April 2014 01:17 (nine years ago) link
The Goats on the Ramones
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Monday, 14 April 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
#77
http://jezebel.com/jezebels-hot-100-the-men-we-love-ranked-1578735833
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
rowr and also lol injokes
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
you can leave your hat glasses on...
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link
Whatever, I'm at #42.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
Imagine being at a party with George Takei. Imagine how much fun you'd have.
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link
he'd be all, "check this shit out i just posted on facebook."
"whoa cool george" *scans around room for anyone without a phone in their face*
― smooth hymnal (m bison), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link
JD fall book tour schedule is up btw
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 July 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
i've got my ticket
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 18 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
free show at poisson rouge iirc
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
The first 10 minutes of the audiobook is available here: https://soundcloud.com/macaudio-2/wolf-in-white-van-by-john-darnielle-audiobook-excerpt
― cajunsunday, Friday, 12 September 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
And review/interview here!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/books/review/the-sound-of-the-words.html
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 September 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
I ordered a copy, because Mr. Goat is awesome and the book seems cool.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 September 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Mr. Goat is doing a signing near here (Oxford, MS) so I will go buy my copy there and say hi dere.
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Friday, 12 September 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
I fear I'll need to miss the LA signing, so I've preordered and wait with bated breath.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 September 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
09-15 New York, NY - Le Poisson Rouge ^09-18 Durham, NC - Motorco Music Hall09-22 Raleigh, NC - Quail Ridge Books09-24 Nashville, TN - Parnassus Books09-25 Oxford, MS - Off Square Books09-29 San Francisco, CA - Green Apple Books *09-30 Los Angeles, CA - Skylight Books10-01 Portland, OR - Powell's Books10-02 Denver, CO - The Tattered Cover10-05 Dallas, TX - The Wild Detectives10-06 Austin, TX - Book People10-07 Chicago, IL - Lincoln Hall #10-08 Brookline, MA - Coolidge Theater ^ with John Hodgman* with Robin Sloan# with Mairead Case
― curmudgeon, Friday, 12 September 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
being on the NBA list of ten fiction nominees the week your book comes out is pretty good
http://www.nationalbook.org/nba2014.html#.VBrGd_ldUuc
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:48 (nine years ago) link
woah!
― just sayin, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:27 (nine years ago) link
Awesome! Congrats John!
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link
listening to the Fresh Air interview this morning was heart-cheering
― Speaking of the inaccessible summit, here's (bernard snowy), Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link
... altho the part where he talked about fans dumping all their heavy stories on him at the merch table made me wish I could make it out to Motorco tonight just to tell a joke or something
― Speaking of the inaccessible summit, here's (bernard snowy), Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link
i dumped gifted him with a bottle of malört at a merch table last year
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
the book is really excellent
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link
lol gr8080
CONGRATS JOHN
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
oh shit gr8080, malort, that shit is vile
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
iirc his review based on one shot was:
"That is the vilest shit ever, in the most charming way possible."
def the most otm description of malört i've ever heard
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
kudos to you motherfucker
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
a bottle of malort. a kudos candy bar. and a bargain priced room on la cienega.
― fruit ← ⟨“apple”, “banana”, “orange”⟩ (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Congratulations, Mr. Mountain Goats. Master Of Reality is fantastic so I'm not surprised by the high praise. Way looking forward to reading this.
― Bouffants and Other Coifs (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
Oh hmm, the Oxford event includes a Thacker Mountain Radio broadcast/reading. Adjusting dinner plans...
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/17/348736199/as-a-lyricist-and-novelist-the-mountain-goats-lead-man-writes-about-pain
I intend to listen to the Fresh Air thing...
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 September 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Whoa, congrats. All the fun novels I've been looking forward to are out this month (David Mitchell, Jeff Vandermeer), and aero's is up next for me.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 18 September 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
something about that npr headline is v weird to me
mega congrats to the goat gentleman
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
yeah big ups, aero! like seriously. can't wait to get my hands on this thing and hope I can move some stuff around to see you at Powell's on the first.
― my friend, Gater (Clay), Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
I'm not exactly who John writes for, but he's still managed to get Denton stuck in my ear.
― benbbag, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
best ever
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
http://johndarnielle.tumblr.com/post/101178844671/a-band-i-like-called-helcaraxe-sent-me-their-cover
this is fucking mighty.
― how's life, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:10 (nine years ago) link
Solid cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hysbWNn9WqI
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Saturday, 15 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
Hey, that's not bad! The bloopy keys remind me of the keyboard bloops on Autoclave.
― holla back for a dope nakh (how's life), Saturday, 15 November 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
Yo
http://www.mergerecords.com/beat-the-champ
http://johndarnielle.tumblr.com/post/108736975801/the-cream-of-the-crop
https://soundcloud.com/mergerecords/the-mountain-goats-the-legend-of-chavo-guerrero/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
!!!
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
yessss
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
Niiiiice
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
what are some other words or characters we can post multiple tiiiiiimes???
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
Today Al Madril denies that he was ever a wrestler.
― GM, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Just listened to that like 3 times in a row. Totally psyched.
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
this is true & such a sad detail, he was such an great and chill local face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfZAQZy0Eg
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
wwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrreeeeeeessssssttttttttllllliiiiinnnnn'''''''
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Al Mandrill would be a sweet joke cover band
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
ok so who plays the lead guitar is what i want to know
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
hurrah!
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
descending like fire on the people who deserved it most/almost completely unknown outside texas and on the west coast
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
A cool piece
http://t.co/LPM61UyU5H
And even cooler? I suggest checking out this feed for the past few days:
https://twitter.com/ChavoClassic
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
2nd pre-order track, Heel Turn 2, is available now. I've got a really good feeling about this batch of songs.
― i'm just a nose hair (how's life), Monday, 2 March 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
That feeling is justified.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
P4k Interview: http://pitchfork.com/features/update/9609-the-mountain-goats/
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
Cool!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
If it's half as good as Transcendental Youth it'll be one of the best records of the year. He is at his peak right now.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
I should say "they" instead of he, because Jon Wurster's drumming is a huge part of their sound.
It really is that good.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
Okay so "Chavo Guerrero" didn't really grab me, but "Heel Turn" is a whole different ballpark -- truly one for the ages.
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 03:49 (nine years ago) link
Streaming streaming streaming.
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/29/395108044/first-listen-the-mountain-goats-beat-the-champ
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 March 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link
Also, performing and discussing one of the new songs:
http://www.avclub.com/videoplaylist/john-darnielle-discusses-and-performs-stabbed-deat-217189
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Monday, 30 March 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link
Ooof @ "Hair Match", <3 <3 so good
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Monday, 30 March 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link
opening moments a bit randy newman :)
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 March 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
"foreign object" is pretty firmly stuck in my head already
― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Monday, 30 March 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
The second half doesn't stick as well as the first, but I love"The Legend of Chavo Guerrero," "Foreign Object," and "Southwestern Territory.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 March 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link
choked out! choked out!
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 30 March 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
I will check out the choke-out. Cool to see it's in a different setting than Wolf In White Van, which I'm currently captivated by (thinking about ordering Master of Reality).
― dow, Monday, 30 March 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
i really like thisi definitely like MGs when there's a concept or theme to the record, or those tend to be my favs
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
(thinking about ordering Master of Reality)
absolutely order this immediately. can't recommend that book highly enough.
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link
yeah i just started reading it last week and it's great --- esp poignant as i am currently working in a psychiatric hospital
― gbx, Thursday, 2 April 2015 11:33 (eight years ago) link
so uh, NYC, does City Winery have a standby line?
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/speaakeasy/status/583710484165177344
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
I had to make myself listen to the npr stream a second time, but sure glad I did. Initially, it just seemed wayyy too refined and introspective, in a chamber-y way, for an album about wrasslers (long ago, I reviewed a collection of wrestlers' entrance themes etc., back when The Rock and Mankind were first hittin' it big, and the refinement was there, but had to go w deft, deadpan flourishes of grandiosity, re art metal and soundtracks, like John Carpenter's music). The opening track still seems a bit too much like early Randy Newman, maybe, and could also live without the coda to "Heel Turn 2," but otherwise---with the volume way up on non-audiophile headphones---really liked the rest (well the one about San Juan still seems a bit diffuse lyrically, but music no prob). That Wurster's a pretty good drummer, hey.
― dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
Some of the piano flourishes are exquisite. What's the song w/the extended piano outro?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
Heel Turn 2
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
"Heel Turn 2," isn't it? A little too exquisite here, for me.(Overselling; I get the nuances already.) Bout time for an MG tribute album, also occasional covers hither and yon. I like his voice, but wouldn't hurt to hear others. Red Hot Mountain Goats? Let's do it!
― dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
"Heel Turn 2" definitely the highlight for me so far, though I've lived with that song longer than most of the others on the album (it has floated around online for about a month or so). Agree that some of it sounds a bit too restrained on first pass, but its early yet. "Werewolf Gimmick," though, might be the closest that Darnielle has come so far to writing what could conceivably become an actual metal song.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
what a great album!
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
hit me hard on the first few passes; the big moments (chavo guerrero, heel turn, werewolf gimmick) had me giddy like college+healed but the opener+closer both rly got me too. (have been into mtn goats/randy newman correspondence since the "in germany before the war" cover on the extra lens album.) "exquisite but restrained" is what i thought of the last two albums, tho it may have been bad timing or inattention; anyway they really have been a gorgeous-sounding band on these last few and this one to me sounds exquisite+unrestrained.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link
(not that like "estate sale sign" is restrained.)
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link
just finished first straight-thru listen; "The Ballad of Bull Ramos" punches above its weight & feels like it could be the album closer, if you're the happy-endings type
― bernard snowy, Friday, 3 April 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
"foreign object" sounds like weird al; mean this as flatteringly as possible to all concerned
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
i don't love any song on this record as much as i love a few of the songs on transcendental youth but that may be a product of this one not coming out during my nervous breakdown. i really love the way some of these songs drift and distend
the instrumentation on "fire editorial" is gaucho as hell
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 3 April 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link
Haha I thought Steely Dan as soon as I heard that piano! Weird song though -- it's so diffuse & (as you said) drifting, I don't really feel like I have a full grasp on it yet.
Probably goes without saying but "Choked Out" & "Werewolf Gimmick" are the songs that send me careening around the room looking for things to break.
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
It's "Heel Turn 2" with the piano outro I'm crazy about.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
throw my better self overboardshoot at him when he comes up for air
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
"Heel Turn 2" is, so far, the most devastating song of 2015 that isn't Bjork's "Stonemilker"
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
yet the president of the fan club always makes me lol
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 April 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah that's one of the big laugh lines of the album for me, along with 'Get told to maybe dial it back...'
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 4 April 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
"The Ballad of Bull Ramos" punches above its weight & feels like it could be the album closer, if you're the happy-endings type
haha, the very content line in this one about letting his hair grow long makes the actual album closer more devastating. btw the brief climactic switch to first-person in "hair match" killlllllllllllllls me, it's like if a helpless observer said one line as the head was submerged in "in corolla", except who would that be, it would have to be, like, god, and that would be gross, and here it's so natural.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link
O good I've been waiting for this thread to go all inside-baseball :)
The line that really got me on "Bull Ramos" is Rise & rise, surrounded by friends, because it so nicely mirrors Soar ever upwards on air gone black with flies at the conclusion of TY
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link
On Seth Meyers tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/584747088728195072
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 April 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
Annnnnd
http://www.nbc.com/late-night-with-seth-meyers/video/the-mountain-goats-performance-foreign-object/2857402
http://www.nbc.com/late-night-with-seth-meyers/video/the-mountain-goats-performance-pigs-that-ran-straightaway-into-the-water-triumph-of/2857388
And of course album out today.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
i wrote about this, in retrospect wish i'd said more about the arrangements (like, wurster & hughes have been really important to the sound for a lot longer than just the past few albums) but yeah this album's pretty all right http://www.treblezine.com/reviews/22545-mountain-goats-beat-the-champ-review/
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
Good read here: http://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/tim-showalter-strand-of-oaks-talks-the-mountain-goats-beat-the-champ/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
nice to see one of my good buddies playing sax in that clip. :)
i stopped listening to NPR advance streams, something about listening to an album there (especially loading the full album where you can't tell what track is playing) makes it blur together in my head and not go back to it. but once i download something and listen to it piecemeal i usually end up loving it.
i guess this goes for all album streams, but NPR's presentation is so boring that it doesn't help at all.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
Great review, sloth!
― Evan, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link
'hair match' is legitimately terrifying & gorgeous, perfect execution on that song imo
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it's haunting. I ignored this thread for a while once everybody started talking about the songs I hadn't heard yet because, yeah, I can't stand npr streams either. But I'm glad to see that other people were thinking Gaucho upthread too. This is definitely my favorite since Heretic Pride. I've been out-of-phase with tMG in the past few years, but I know I'll be listening to this album a lot.
― louie louie whoa baby imago (how's life), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link
Hey, so, I did this
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/q-a-the-mountain-goats-john-darnielle-on-pro-wrestling-1696283941/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
what's he REALLY like
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
Yo' man what do you expect the guy's a giggolo manYou know I mean?
― DJP, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
don't get fresh with me pal
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
Oh my
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 April 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
"The next Mountain Goats record will be about wrestling" - I am 100% on board with this.
"The next Mountain Goats record will be 50% jazzier" - uhhhhh
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2015 09:00 (eight years ago) link
This thread has been useful in coming to terms with that; I tend to blame Steely Dan for a lot of things - I should possibly blame them for more things.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2015 09:01 (eight years ago) link
idk dude, each of the last 3 or 4 albums has been 50% jazzier than the one proceeding it
― bernard snowy, Friday, 10 April 2015 12:02 (eight years ago) link
Some of it is actually hearing the live version of Southwestern Territories and falling for that one, then first thing on the record bam - here's that track you liked, with some clarinet or such.
Kind of odd to be in the position of "I'm really looking forward to hearing that one live, in its incomplete state" (partly jk, I don't think J0hn thinks that the live version is in competition with the record)
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link
My god, a clarinet
― DJP, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link
last night a clarinet part was applied to an older song and i told a friend "oh this is like 'say hello wave goodbye'"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link
yes!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link
I like jazz and clarinets. What's wrong with jazz and clarinets?
― example (crüt), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link
Clarinet is the only instrument I play, so I'm biased.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link
talking of jazz, Beat The Champ outtake 'Blood Capsules' has a really cool jazzy intro. This is definitely new territory for tMG.
http://egoaticon.tumblr.com/post/115770368137/i-could-almost-smell-the-fear-on-the-lunch-hour
― cajunsunday, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link
hmm i could see how it would be disruptive or distracting to have prior knowledge of the song sans wind arrangement -- but i love the wind arrangement so y'know i'd probably be the guy complaining about how the live version was missing something
― bernard snowy, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
The extent to which I'm expressing universal truths here is at an all-time low, I'm aware.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link
I like the album but draw back from the bits that get me drifting off into thoughts of all the short stories, movies and songs about decaying regretful sports performers---there are some great examples of course, but mostly not musical. They tend to be tasteful-to-tearjerky, and very predictable: Paul Simon's "The Boxer," of course; In this category, though, Waits' voice kinda works for me: at least he *sounds* like a broken down old mug with a cauliflower ear and bent brane, subsisting on Lucky Strikes and undershirt sandwiches. Not that I want that from this album, but the chamber-y bits bring it all to mind (well written, arranged and played, but can be a bit much in this context)(like maybe why Dylan ultimately decided against crowding "Sign In The Window," a song about feeling utterly alone, with Al Kooper's consort of instruments, in that excellent out-take)
― dow, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
with the clarinets etclike i said i upthread i hear more randy newman (or maybe even nilsson in parts) than steely dan
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 April 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
when i made the dan comparison it was kind of an exaggeration. randy newman is definitely there, and in the interview with ned he mentions learning duke ellington pieces which probably contributed to the jazz vocabulary of this record more than anything
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 10 April 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
ah well duke, a guy that i would imagine both fagen and newman worship that makes sense
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, April 10, 2015 8:45 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
clarinet is literally the only instrument i like! throw all guitars and synthesizers in the trash! #bennygoodman
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 April 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
clarinets rule
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 10 April 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
they make me feel like me and my gal are rowboating on a pond
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 April 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
Always liked the Dan's arrangement of Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-oo," a wry farewell to a notoriously ill burg. An appropriate cover for SD, with nuances nicely sliced by that Coral sitar or whatever: sharp wings of the mechanical insect, seeking its prey on the summer wind. It's mostly dismissed on our Steely Dan thread (not Gaucho enough, you know).
― dow, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
I always want woodwinds in my rock music. Especially cor anglais or flute, shortcut to my pleasure centers. Clarinets are dandy of course. And pretty underused in this context!
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 10 April 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
as a wrestling fan it's really hard not to identify deeply with this record in a way that, say, i couldn't with "the life of the world to come." (i got starrcades in place of catechesis as a kid, what can i say.) some really beautiful character studies on the b-side - "luna" just kills me
very pretty live with the horns + clarinet though; coming onstage with the dusty rhodes "hard times" promo booming through the club was a nice touch
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Friday, 10 April 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link
Huh.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
xpost Yeah, after All Eternals Deck, Transcental Youth, and Wolf In White Van, seems like he wanted to take it in a different direction.
― dow, Friday, 10 April 2015 23:45 (eight years ago) link
"Werewolf Gimmick," though, might be the closest that Darnielle has come so far to writing what could conceivably become an actual metal song.
True identity = surf song.
― louie louie whoa baby imago (how's life), Monday, 13 April 2015 10:37 (eight years ago) link
lots of that old black metal stuff gives me kind of a dick dale picking vibe
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 April 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
... please, tell me more
― bernard snowy, Monday, 13 April 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
British Isles dates announced today for November, including the O2
... Shepherd's Bush Empire.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 April 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
"The next Mountain Goats record will be about wrestling" - I am 100% on board with this."The next Mountain Goats record will be 50% jazzier" - uhhhhh― Andrew Farrell, Friday, April 10, 2015 4:00 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, April 10, 2015 4:00 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Totally the reverse for me!
― jaymc, Monday, 13 April 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, April 13, 2015 12:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― bernard snowy, Monday, April 13, 2015 1:16 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Basics Of Black Metalauthor: Morgal date: 04/23/2009 category: music stylesrating: 9.4 / votes: 34 black metal:
Hi readers! I wrote this article because I would like to help for beginners who already know the basic metal music techniques but want to learn the basics of black metal guitar playing. I playing black metal music for years and I have realized many things about this style of guitar playing. My lesson is about the 2nd generation of black metal (it's the 90s).I don't like the early black metal music (except Bathory by Quorthon). I think the early "black metal" music is rather heavy metal music with dark lyrics than black metal. The 2nd generation of black metal has begun with bands like Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum etc. To play in this style I recommend tune your guitar to standard tuning. The black metal guitar playing is mainly based on tremolo picking. It's very important technique. The most beginner guitar player cannot perform this correctly. In black metal you have to follow the blast drum beat with tremolo picking. The key to master this technique is: you have to do the up and down strokes ONLY with your wrist. Never use your arm, only the wrist moving. To play accurate with this technique, you have to stay your wrist somewhere. I tries many variations, but I think the best for me is when I play on the E-A-D string my wrist stay on the thinner strings ( G-H-E), when I play on the G-H-E strings my wrist stay on the thicker strings (E-A-D). Black metal songs' tempo is from 140bpm (Mayhem, Nargaroth, Gorgoroth) up to 200+bpm (Satyricon, Dark Funeral, Dimmu Borgir). First time practice with slower songs here comes two details of famous songs from Darkthrone and Mayhem.
dick dale (from guitar player):
Recorded by his band the Del-Tones in 1961, Dick Dale’s earliest signature instrumental “Let’s Go Trippin’” is widely considered the first surf-rock song. While it contained none of his soon-to-be trademark tremolo picking style (more on that in a minute), the song resonated with the California beach crowd and climbed the charts to #4 regionally....
tremolo picking (he even titled a song on 1994’s Unknown Territory after it) certainly lives up to its name. Dick Dale’s single most famous signature move has to be his semi-muted, trem-picked even glissandi up or down the low E string. To illustrate, try using Ex. 4a as either a one-bar pickup, or dropping it into the last bar of a song’s progression, which essentially creates the same effect. Next, Ex. 4b’s Terra Dicktyl intro riff comes on strong with non-tremmed, descending chromatic eighth-notes on beats one and three of each measure interspersed with trem-picked, open-E dotted quarters acting as pedal points.
the technique is pretty similiar obvious the musical vocabulary/sound very different but that always stuck out to me.
now this is different than everything that I was told from guitar mags during the trash metal era, black metal's tremelo picking is a distinct break from bands like Slayer who always made a big deal about using ONLY downstrokes...here the wiki entry on "downpicking"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downpicking
Downpicking, sometimes referred to as Downstroke picking, is the technique used by musicians that perform on plucked string instruments in which the plectrum, or pick, is moved in a downward motion, relative to the position of the instrument, against one or more of the strings to make them vibrate. If downstrokes are played without the addition of upstrokes (as in alternate picking), the tip of the pick never comes in contact with the strings during the time the hand is moving back up to repeat the downstroke.
....
Extremely fast eighth-note downstroke picking was used in the mid 70's and beyond by famous punk guitarist Johnny Ramone, who used the technique to play full live shows at fast tempos (usually around 180 to 200 bpm). This required extreme levels of stamina, but produced a very high-energy, aggressive sound. This extremely demanding, then-uncommon and somewhat innovative style contributed to Johnny Ramone's reputation as a legendary guitar player, and it influenced many now-famous rock guitarists. Downstroke picking has become a common technique in metal and thrash rhythm playing, notably exemplified by Metallica's James Hetfield, Megadeth's Dave Mustaine, Slayer's Kerry King, and Anthrax's Scott Ian among others. The popular, easily recognized guitar work of Metallica's "Master of Puppets" is almost entirely played using downstroked eighth-notes at a tempo of 212 BPM (about 7 downstrokes per second).
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 April 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
hey dow, rasslin' is not a sport.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 April 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
I forget if this has been covered here, but the deluxe vinyl that sold out immediately at the label's site is available in some record stores. I picked up my copy today.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Monday, 13 April 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
This is definitely more of a downstroking affair. I was really thinking about the drums though.
― louie louie whoa baby imago (how's life), Monday, 13 April 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link
yeah I thought that's what you were driving at -- hence my confusion over UMS making the surfrock/blackmetal connection [via guitar-playing style that isn't on the song in question]
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link
& really the most metal-feeling part of the song (to me) isn't the rockabillyish verses so much as the fist-pumping singalong chorus
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 04:43 (eight years ago) link
sad face about missing tonight's show
― DJP, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
^^^
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
Apologies if this was posted already, but if it was, I missed it:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/how-the-mountain-goats-john-darnielle-became-the-best-storyteller-in-rock-20150407?page=3
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 April 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link
The Mountain GoatsVerified account@mountain_goats
That @nyctaper show I just RT'd is one of the most fun shows we've ever played btw so grab it
RTAnson Burtch@aburtch
RT @nyctaper: @mountain_goats April 12, 2015 City Winery – http://www.nyctaper.com/2015/04/the-mountain-goats-april-12-2015-city-winery-flacmp3streaming/
― dow, Thursday, 16 April 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
awesome. made a spotify playlist if you want to quickly organize the setlist after you download.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
the previous night was really fun too. my sister went and had a blast. there's a great cover in this set whose provenance I won't spoil here because the way JD announces it in the set is perfect.
http://www.nyctaper.com/2015/04/the-mountain-goats-april-11-2015-city-winery-flacmp3streaming/
― louie louie whoa baby imago (how's life), Friday, 17 April 2015 08:46 (eight years ago) link
thanks to 'animal mask' i now won't be able to watch tag team wrestling without crying about the tender beauty of it all
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link
I really like this piece:
http://penguinrandomhouse.ca/hazlitt/blog/flamboyance-and-ruin-mountain-goats-beat-champ
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 04:53 (eight years ago) link
Whelan's u say hmmmm
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link
Mishearings that keep butting into my 'humming a song around the house' Part 23: "Climb the turnbuckle high / take two falls out of three / black up for local TV"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 April 2015 10:03 (eight years ago) link
yeah, it's "take two falls out of tree"
― DJP, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
not exactly mishearing but I am still unclear on the right way to read the line "black out for local TV" -- at first I took it as a reference to the 'TV blackouts' that sometimes affect NFL/NCAA/other (nationally-)televised American sports, but it seems unlikely that such a thing would apply under the circumstances? so then I wonder if "(pretend to) pass out in front of some cameras, for a local telecast" is actually the primary sense, & the other just a felicity of language.
― bernard snowy, Friday, 24 April 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
Think I've seen that expression used re actors in Tarzan movies, even in Westerns, when director wanted them to look more savage, dangerous; can imagine it being a wrestling thing too, in some times & situations.
― dow, Friday, 24 April 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
"Blacking up" is what I meant; thought of it when listening to song, though sounded like "black out" there.
― dow, Friday, 24 April 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
― louie louie whoa baby imago (how's life), Friday, April 17, 2015 4:46 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_EMrL7D3SA
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 27 April 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link
That's the one!
― sonic yarmouth (how's life), Monday, 27 April 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link
I also enjoyed the partial cover of "The Next Time I Fall In Love" (sadly, I wasn't at this, or any, MG show, I just listened online). JD had once mentioned how he tried to get Amy Grant to sing on The Life of the World to Come; as ideal as she would have been for *that* record, I really hope he keeps offering and I hope that one day she accepts.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 27 April 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
darnielle interviewed by WWE! http://www.wwe.com/inside/mountain-goats-beat-the-champ-john-darnielle-27341240
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 1 May 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
I'm digging the phrase "believable love of evil", also this article makes me wonder how JD would fare as a broadcast commentator (for wrestling or other sport)
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Friday, 1 May 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
fwhoar
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link
― bernard snowy, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:35 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
idk about california specifically but territory era wrestling was well known to keep the good stuff off tv, so you would have to go to the event and tv used to be promo packages or squash matches (when the star would easily beat an unknown or weak opponent to look good). 2/3 fall matches would be a special attractions to go to the event for, and i don't think there are many filmed instances before the late 80s wwe tag team wrestling. also it wasn't often a more dangerous story would be done on tv, i.e. making someone black out, or idk blinding the junkyard dog or whatever. it all points towards it being a big money, beloved and experienced character. otoh yes also a great use of language and maybe i just think too much about wrestling.
im also v excited about Song For Sasha Banks.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
Another fan: MST3K's Joel Hodgson:
https://twitter.com/joelghodgson/status/595587235724001280
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link
Video for "The Legend of Chavo Guerrero" starring the man himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YvDfiAXT8
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
Dude.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link
A hoy hoy, thanks for your thoughtful reply to my questions upthread; that makes a lot of sense now.
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
that video is great
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 May 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
The tearing up of the pictures of cats and grandmothers was the part I loved. A riff on a particular convention of wrestling, or just exaggerated cartoon badassery?
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Thursday, 21 May 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
it's a schtick that wrestlers used to engage in a lot to show they were heels (sinead too tho i doubt she was aware of the connect).dunno if this is still part of the modern kayfabe ritual
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 May 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
So good. My favourite bit is when he tears the picture of Frankenstein in half.
― ink on all the streetlights (cajunsunday), Thursday, 21 May 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
last person to do anything similar to good effect would be jericho ripping on his own fans signs i think. Its a really fun vid.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 21 May 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link
Great show last night:
http://www.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2015/06/03/mountain-goats-get-over-at-gamh
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link
Lovely surprise to hear that voice at the end of Paper Towns. The lead character has a Mountain Goats poster in his bedroom.
― timellison, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link
heard "deianara crush" the other night for the first time in ages. god, when he says "that's something I'D RATHER NOT BE REMINDED OF," that will never not slay
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 July 2015 04:29 (eight years ago) link
John Green's a pretty big fan, has been posting a song a day for a while:
http://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com/tagged/42-days-of-the-mountain-goats
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 30 July 2015 06:05 (eight years ago) link
I disagree -- that opening Medea sequence with the centaur is not insufferable.
http://www.vice.com/read/talking-with-john-darnielle-about-horror-his-novel-wolf-in-white-van-and-the-endless-possibilities-of-story
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 September 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
http://www.stereogum.com/1837622/the-mountain-goats-john-darnielle-rolling-stones-christopher-weingarten-made-a-noise-cassette/mp3s/
http://www.thatcutesite.com/uploads/2010/08/puppy_holds_ears.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
i like it
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
lol scott
― gr8080, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
Shouldn't that be a hipster puppy?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 16 October 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
no WHO GIVES A SHIT jpeg on the cover, no credibility
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 October 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
this is good btw
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 06:27 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/674244582486335493The Mountain Goats Wikipedia article edited anonymously from US House of Representatives https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=694325421&oldid=691240032
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link
i JUST changed my DN but be advised that "nice boys who make the good, rocking tunes" is available
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link
hint hint aero
http://pitchfork.com/news/64192-the-mountain-goats-will-release-new-song-if-you-donate-to-john-darnielles-bowling-team-fundraiser/
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link
more like the mountaint goats
― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/zvf24Y8.png
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Monday, 25 April 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
Merge press sheet intro: Today, the Mountain Goats have announced new full band shows this fall. Tickets will go on sale this Friday, April 29.
John:THE MOUNTAIN GOATS HAVE NOW BEEN A QUARTET FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR and it is so inspiring it is to find ourselves here: "never do things too fast" has always been my motto: write a lot, release a lot, but only change up your game when it feels right, always be moving forward but kick back strongly at anybody trying to grab hold of your shoulders and push you in any particular kinda direction. This philosophy is why we didn't go into a recording studio at all until we were good and ready, why we didn't have a full-time drummer until 2007, and it's why we knew, when Matt Douglas showed up on the scene, that we were headed into new terrain.
WE'RE WORKING ON NEW STUFF NOW. As is usually the case, I know more about it than I'm gonna tell you outright, because the best things gestate in the secret darkness and only emerge when the portents say it's time. But the best place to prepare for the spring festival is in the arena: in front of an audience, I mean, in clubs, on stages, in the actual thick of things. It's where the road ahead becomes clearest. It's where the indicators glow brightest. It's where we live.
EVERY SHOW ON THE BRINE CRYPT EXODUS TOUR SOLD OUT EXCEPT FOR THE ONE WHERE WE SOLD THE MOST TICKETS, which is totally hilarious, but I mention this by way of saying: we're touring in the fall. Full electric tour at full volume, all four of us. Tickets go on sale Friday, April 29. The smaller rooms will sell out quicker, the bigger ones may take a minute, fair warning as Van Halen said on the album that has "Unchained" on it, which they said the same year that Rufus released Camouflage, which you should go listen to right now because it's one of the best albums anywhere. As for us, we'll see you in the fall!
The Mountain Goats on tour:Jul 22 Chicago, IL — SubterraneanSep 18 Baltimore, MD — Ram's Head LiveSep 19 Richmond, VA — The NationalSep 20 Charlottesville, VA — Jefferson TheaterSep 22 Bloomington, IN — Buskirk-Chumley TheatreSep 23 Bloomington, IL — The Castle TheatreSep 26 Iowa City, IA — The Englert TheatreSep 27 Milwaukee, WI — Pabst TheaterSep 28 Madison, WI — Majestic TheaterSep 30 Omaha, NE — The Waiting RoomOct 01 Kansas City, MO — Madrid TheaterOct 02 Columbia, MO — The Blue NoteOct 03 Maquoketa, IA — Codfish Hollow Barnstormers
― dow, Monday, 25 April 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
Dang, hope they add some dates down South!
― dow, Monday, 25 April 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
clearly truncated to watch Cubs' world championship
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 April 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
big lol at damn darnielle
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 25 April 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link
so not gonna happen
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 25 April 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
Codfish Hollow Barnstormers
i have to go here
― alomar lines, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 06:15 (seven years ago) link
New novel coming up (thanx for tip, one way street)http://johndarnielle.tumblr.com/post/148300957101/i-like-to-work-that-is-a-big-part-of-who-i-am
― dow, Monday, 1 August 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
Recently (New Year's Eve) in Mountain Goats twitter feed, John D. said that although The Sunset Treewas strenuous to record, studios are "close quarters" anyway, and ...that record represented for me a breakthrough in my writing. wanting to be honest / forthright / clear / etc
― dow, Sunday, 8 January 2017 03:04 (seven years ago) link
Lots more, but anyway was worth it, he says.
― dow, Sunday, 8 January 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, April 25, 2016 6:17 PM
sb everyone
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 January 2017 03:52 (seven years ago) link
ahemThe Mountain Goatshttps://twitter.com/rianjohnson
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link
psyched for his new book UNIVERSAL HARVESTER, out next tuesday I think
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
Yup, can't wait!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link
"The Ultimate Jedi Who Kills All the Other Jedi and Eats Their Bones" is their best song since "Short Song For Justin Bieber's Paparazzi."
― THAC0 Pastorius (Tom Violence), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:59 (seven years ago) link
super appreciate that when ppl praise his work he says pleasant and modest things that do not include the word 'humbled'
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 February 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
..I think you are maybe thinking of someone else?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 February 2017 06:59 (seven years ago) link
heh, i did a shitty job of posting that track.
Trying again: http://www.vulture.com/2017/01/mountain-goats-wrote-a-star-wars-song.html
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Thursday, 2 February 2017 07:02 (seven years ago) link
I mean, being humble strikes me as a very JD thing, it's the self working on the self, unlike being #blessed. Can definitely see him getting up in the morning and doing 20 humble crunches, getting himself set up for the day.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 February 2017 12:12 (seven years ago) link
No I imagine he means that he's avoiding this new use of the word "humbled" when the person means, in fact, the opposite, which is a thing more
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link
Hah, I did not know of that - okay then I think his uses are definitely keeping the retro-humbled flame alive :)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link
Interview about the new book
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
I'm at that in-between point where I saw the book at work, bought the book, am excited about the book's basic description, am recommending the book to coworkers and customers, but still need to start the book on my day off.
So maybe tomorrow. The dust jacket will show off great wear and aging like a pair of Canadian/Japanese collaboration blue jeans.
― Zachary Taylor, Thursday, 9 February 2017 07:16 (seven years ago) link
book reading in W. DC tonight
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link
i loved this book so much, totally stunned
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 February 2017 07:38 (seven years ago) link
tracklist for the new one (called goths) is prob the best tracklist i've ever read
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
Would you have a link, there?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link
https://us.7digital.com/artist/the-mountain-goats/release/goths-deluxe-version-6195812
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link
Missed opportunity to just rename the whole project 'the Mountain Goths'.
― how's life, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
'Andrew Eldritch Is Moving Back to Leeds' is up on Spotify and other streaming services.
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
djp in the house
― schlump, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link
oh yeah, there is that ^_^
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link
Minor details!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
as somebody who needs choral music to be aggressively crossovered into their life i am hyped to hear, d
― schlump, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
"no guitars" I hear
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
wait, is djp on this album?
― removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link
(Thanks for asking. I'm confused too.)
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link
it's the DJP-only album we've been waiting for
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link
DJP has taken over the MG identity and it is nothing but plainsong chants.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link
Or alternately, I arranged backing vocals on one of the songs
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
But...my creative lies for your benefit.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna email some friends for a Latin translation of "No Children" this weekend
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link
Off-topic, but in ILX - With Ads!Ⓡ news:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/mountaingoats_zpswck1hdwj.jpg
― how's life, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
hoping drew is somehow involved as well
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
Nice dan!
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Anyone reading his book?
― calstars, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Just got a copy after going to the reading in Seattle. I'm honestly amazed by how good he is at audience q&a's, being able to answer cliched or awkwardly phrased questions in an interesting way that doesn't make the person asking feel stupid is a real gift.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link
omg @ Goths
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link
ltd time offer, also cc'd on twitter so maybe invalid at time of reading this: pls somebody say if they wd like my copy of the novel, i can't rly have bks piling up here & am happy to probably-lazily mail it to someone who wants to read, #usa #only
― schlump, Thursday, 23 February 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link
uhh me plz? I'm up to my eyeballs in books but I don't mind
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 23 February 2017 08:39 (seven years ago) link
:)send me yr address somehow ! are we friends on twitter or anything
― schlump, Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
Eldritch is also here:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/02/24/mountain-goats-sing-about-andrew-eldtritch/
tbh, not in love with it.
― nickn, Saturday, 25 February 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link
Universal Harvester rolling me right along in a musical way, not breezy tho (how did that word become such a thing)
― dow, Saturday, 25 February 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link
The book is indeed extremely good.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link
I tried to find it on the kobo store and it offered meFarming Machinery - Combine Harvesters - With Information on the Operation and Mechanics of the Combine HarvesterandHow to Start a Potato Harvester and Sorter Business (Beginners Guide)
― brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Sunday, 26 February 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
i have been VERY disappointed to discover Universal Harvester unstocked at the many airports i have passed through this weekend
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 26 February 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link
That's because you weren't looking under his pseudonym, 'Brad Thor.'
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 February 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
Oh so it is available as an ebook in the kobo store, but not in the UK. And there I thought we had a global economy.
― brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Monday, 27 February 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
as an aside i have to imagine placement in airport bookstores does wonders for sales -- feel like airports are one of the last few places ppl make impulse book purchases
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link
Very nice new song here: https://ourfirst100days.bandcamp.com/track/etruscans
― cajunsunday, Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
Appropriately gothy new song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anS6bcPpvoQ
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
*waves at djp*
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
also this is fucking excellent
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
I would love to meet the basses they used for this because they are badass
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link
How's his new book?
― djh, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
they played two songs off the new album here the other week, and they were so good I wanted the show to extend to include the rest of it
― (±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link
Streaming on NPR
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 May 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
i'm only five songs into this but this is easily my favorite mountain goats record in years. the no guitars approach works remarkably well, the arrangements are so detailed and lovely
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 15 May 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
shouts out to the new order coda of "shelved"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
It sounds so much like Hook that I wonder
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
also: his late '70s West Coast album. I love the electric piano all over the place.
It's an incredibly warm-sounding album to my ears.
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
you can hear every stick on cymbal
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
I like it but it's too jazz, I thought the same thing about the last one but it won me around, but I'm pretty sure this one is too jazz.
^fully expect to cut and paste this for every Mountain Goats album from now on.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 May 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link
what is "too jazz"
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
i feel like this one is pretty jazz i guess but the melodies are more accessible than the more free-falling digressions on beat the champ imo
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
There are bits of this I just can't seem to get behind right now (the chorus of "High Unicorn Tolerance" for instance) but I'm hoping those objections fall away
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
I like the woodwind arrangement and hook more than the song.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
"Abandoned Flesh" and "Wear Black" are my favs
― sexualing healing (crüt), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
I love "Abandoned Flesh" so much
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
On one background listen, this sounds like a 70s smooth pop record about 80s goth rock, which is definitely interesting. Even streaming, the arrangements and recording sound really good.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 15 May 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
everything J0hn D has written in praise of Steely Dan culminates in the horn arrangement for "Paid in Cocaine."
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 15 May 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link
I would drop "Unicorn" and couple others, but some of this is growing on me. "Abandoned Flesh" is pure ILM catnip.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link
My wife got her vinyl copy in the mail yesterday, the packaging is gorgeous and the bonus 12" of dark ambient reworkings of tunes is certainly interesting, not to damn it with faint praise
― Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
this is so fun. i guess the last one was too
― ciderpress, Saturday, 20 May 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link
"paid in cocaine" sounds straight off of Gaucho
― ciderpress, Saturday, 20 May 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link
I like the new single. Doesn't sound like Alan Alda at all.
― van smack, Saturday, 20 May 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
Very summery!
― softie (silby), Sunday, 21 May 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
Lush.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 21 May 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
a long, long time ago tmg played 'california song' at lee's palace in toronto. it's a deep cut; my ex's favorite. her tears were exalted. there's no way you can hope for that to happen and then have it happen.
for me, when he stepped up and over the monitors and drove 'against pollution' home (with this young band, prayers and tears...) well, it shot me in the face. i can't wait to get the new one.
― lion in winter, Monday, 22 May 2017 05:49 (six years ago) link
This is fucking awesome.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 May 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link
Is it ridiculous to say it's John's Kaputt?
DJP - awesome vocal arrangement on the opener.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 May 2017 08:56 (six years ago) link
ha, a friend posed this exact question to me yesterday
― gr8080, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
what did you answer?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 May 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
this is a picture of the mountain goats with cindy wilson of the B-52's onstage, singing "this year." soooooo stoked https://t.co/d1nzrp2GbZ— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) May 23, 2017
You GUYS.
― how's life, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 11:59 (six years ago) link
well damn
― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link
Nice.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
Fuck this guy.
― the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
http://www.nightvalepresents.com/ionlylistentothemountaingoats
― how's life, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link
that could be cool! nightvale guy is a mensch
quite tempted by JD's novel reading next week too, might do that instead of the music this year. or as well. idk haha
― imago, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link
The songs will be available on Vinyl after the last episode of the podcast:
https://www.mergerecords.com/i-only-listen-to-the-mountain-goats-ahwt
Though presumably on filesharing long before that, unless they're literally being recorded the day of the podcast?
If I consider Nightvale to be borderline unlistenablely smug, is the new podcast going to do anything for me?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link
So that I am not just pissing on everything: this cover rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YjojE-4sU
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link
I have tickets to the show on the 11th, I'm well excited!
― plums (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 11:22 (six years ago) link
They're available legally in digital forms long before that - the Laura Jane Grace one came out before the podcast.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
I'm seeing them on the 11th too. Can't wait!
Also: new tracks! https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/marsh-witch-visions
― cajunsunday, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link
I will be along this evening too, though I'll be waiting for my girlfriend to get off a train from Glasgow - anyone interested in a pint before heading in?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
Update: the whole 'train from Glasgow' didn't go so well, would anyone have use of two gratis tickets?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
I'm hearing worrying reports that this was fucking awesome :)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 October 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link
It was! Me and the girlfriend had a really long two days before for work though so i had to deal with her being moany and tired for a band she doesn't really know, so that put a bit of a downer on the night. I was really happy to hear a cracking version of Get Lonely
― plums (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link
Aw! My girl had been up to Glasgow for a job interview and then back down, and the trains were playing silly buggers, so she'd been 12 hours on the track by the time she got back in at 8:30 - we just had a curry and went home, we figured it was what Andrew Eldritch would have done.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link
These last two albums have not really worked for me, I gotta say. A couple good tracks on both, but Goths particularly is some strange ass elevator music
― Nhex, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
luv2ride the ass elevator
― proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
There's a new round of dates including TO in April - I'm curious but tix are a little steep for me. It'll come down to who's opening, I think.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 31 October 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
Newest episode of the podcast has Craig Finn on it.
― how's life, Thursday, 30 November 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
This seems to be finished up:
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/i-only-listen-to-the-mountain-goats-all-hail-west-texas
Also, sounding Brad klaxons for these two tweets:
other bands: hey let's go see the sights in this cool city! me, in the bus, alone: pic.twitter.com/taYDi8nQNh— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) April 15, 2018
backstage corrupting the youth pic.twitter.com/JVNNLtHTyk— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) April 15, 2018
― etc, Monday, 16 April 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link
A+
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s67nIqv0XE
― cajunsunday, Saturday, 21 April 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 21 April 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
v pumped to see them live for the first time in santa fe this sept
― gbx, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link
Haven't listened yet (at work).
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-the-mountain-goats-tribute-to-wrestler-sasha-banks-w521694
― nickn, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
hah
― Nhex, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:27 (five years ago) link
https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/08/29/the-lagniappe-sessions-mountain-goats/
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
oh man, "blood bank"!
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
i love that "blood bank" is a song that two of my favorite lyricists love (the other being stephan jenkins)
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link
So I was thrilled when @mountain_goats mentioned a membership card but this??? This fucking masterpiece??? pic.twitter.com/8EQOuV6fYW— mary (@marfybarpes) August 31, 2018
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 31 August 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
ok that's pretty good lol
― Nhex, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
How did I miss this cover from 2016?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KVTp0A1pqE
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
Do we talk about the call-out post floating around?
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
*searches twitter* This does not, to me, rise to the level of a thing that bears talking about as like a news item.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
That is because it is not a news item, but that does not necessarily mean it is not worth talking about (though obviously this thread may not be the most receptive).
My reaction is that I would have to hear from j0hn about it, which is a response that tends to raise my own eyebrows in most circumstances, but I am hopelessly compromised here, as I am both a fan and someone who sees him being a good friend to many of my friends.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
That's fair. I struggled to parse the exact reason for the claimant having posted it at all but I could be missing something.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 6 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
i think this explains it well enough
― lowercase (eric), Thursday, 6 September 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
I read that dumb thing three times and can't figure out what the hell OP thinks tMG did that was worth posting about.
― how's life, Thursday, 6 September 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
Me neither
His obsessive fans are really weird ime
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 September 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
it's stupid and not worth taking seriously
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
Solid thoughts. Might be worth reading Eric’s link, all the same.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
tl;dr plz anyone
― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
Like, being a Mountain Goats fan would not, to me, suggest that ‘really weird’ means ‘take less care’.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
Tumblr user/tMG fan reports feeling manipulated/emotionally taken advantage of by j0hn D over twitter DM over a period of months, after having met and hung after a concert. Produces screenshots of conversations. xp
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
I was hoping that this thread was revived because of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5-lBv_X_yA
But instead there's skulduggery. Boo.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
That Sex Pistols cover fucking rules and so does Erik Rutan!
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
I am probably not going to give the most "woke" take on the JD deal but reading it made me pine for the times when the most interaction a musician and fan expected from one another was a blow job.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
i gotta say you could've not posted that
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
If me being glib causes people to miss the point, I guess that's on me. The point I am making shouldn't be too controversial: The dynamics of celebrity and fans are a lot different than they were not very long ago. This shit didn't happen to Pamela Des Barres or Cynthia Plaster Caster.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Xp The Rod Stewart thing was a myth, dude
― JoeStork, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
it was nice to hear tMG at the end of that skater documentary on Hulu. The name of which escapes me right now.
― akm, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
tumbler people are weirdos
― akm, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
I wish Tumblr call-outs were available to fixated fans in the 80s and 90s, maybe John Lennon and Selena would still be alive
― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
my takeaway is NEVER BE NICE OR MEET ANYONE EVER
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
sorry if this is not supportive but finding that tumblr 'call out' post (which was easy) jsut makes me think the writer is crazy and frankly a bit scary. the worship shit is ... jesus dude, calm the fuck down.
― akm, Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
just because someone is nice to you doesn't mean they are going to save you. WTF did you want?
I'd like to point out that several takes here (and elsewhere) are a lot more dismissive of the power dynamic involved than I ever was and I firmly expect everyone who decided that me saying "blow job" was insensitive to be even more outraged.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link
oh boy i thought you were so insensitive when you said "blow job"
fuck off
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
i've got thoughts about this that are more complicated than "wow that tumblr person sure is [x]" that i haven't entirely disentangled yet but if you're pining for even more boundariless years of fan/artist relationships then idk what to tell you, read the fucking weinstein thread
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link
what a gross and stupid and unnecessary thing to say and then get fucking defensive about
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link
Me thinks the Princess protests too much for someone calling others "defensive."
But hate-post again, please. Extra spittle if you please.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
Wow cool poster
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
I am probably not going to give the most "woke" take
a solid sign you should stop typing
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
You're right, I should have let the comment stand without the disclaimer.
Bringing up Weinstein in this matter is a sign you should never have typed in the first place. False equivalence gave us Donald Trump, you know.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
jfcnative
― coetzee.cx (wins), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
can there be a trump corollary to godwin's law
― maura, Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
i've got thoughts about this that are more complicated
I elaborated when I said "The dynamics of celebrity and fans are a lot different than they were not very long ago." You ignored that. If you'd rather just be outraged, I can't tell you not to be. Your choice of target is a head-scratcher I will concede.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link
It’s cool that this discussion about a community member of ours being called out for some possibly questionable behavior is now about some rando insulting people
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
i was fine with that explanation until you were a shithead about my complaint just a few minutes later!!!! xp
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link
NYCNative is a longtime poster iirc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
it's true
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
We can compare that questionable behavior of the community member of ours to what Harvey Weinstein did instead.
Why isn't that more offensive than an offhand reference to consensual oral sex?
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
no good is gonna come of this discussion
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
i was about to apologize for misreading your v poorly-written initial post but xp
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
i also now hate that i told you to read a thread on ile about abuses of power
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
I have zero desire to fight, believe it or not. And maybe I am on edge because a friend I have known for 30 years died last night. If so, I apologize. Whatever, I'll bow out.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
i am very sorry about that <3
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
also one of the reasons i haven't actually organized my thoughts about this is bc it involves someone who posts here, and it'd be very difficult to do it as carefully as i want without feeling i was applying a microscope to the interpersonal dynamic of one person who i sorta know through the internet and one person i don't know at all
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link
Here’s my take after thinking about this this morning: if the screencapped conversations from OP with j0hn are real and there’s no reason to presume they’re faked, j0hn certainly laid some kind of emotional burden over a period of time on a much younger fan after meeting once after a show. This is an irresponsible thing for anyone to do, dropping emotional need bombs in private communications with a less mature near-stranger. If there is indeed a pattern of this behavior (and this is by no means clear) it’s something that j0hn should find a forum to own up to and address how he will stop doing it, because the power differential in being an older artist who a lot of young fans really look up to means that he is unlikely to be in a properly reciprocal friendship with anyone very young he meets after a show.That said: Difficult relationships are a thing that can happen and leave people badly hurt, and I don’t think that’s a scandal.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
I'll walk back my prior dismissiveness on this after some thought. I can see how this can be complicated. it's not clear to me from the screenshots what was so emotional or burdensome about it, but in the abstract, I can imagine something like this being weird to navigate. Probably unfair for me to just slam hero worshipping fans as well; obviously they exist, and even if I just think of j0hn as someone I know from ILX and FB some shows and book readings and not some savior, it's obvious some people do think that way.
― akm, Thursday, 6 September 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
My take, abridged: a self-professed superfan-cum-stalker is co-opting the language of "abuse" and "accountability" to further their obsession with their quarry.
The stalker's transparent toxification of musician's relationship with fans, musician's relationship with wife, and further bids for attention from musician, make it unbearably clear to me what is actually going on.
― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
I trust your read on this a whole lot fgti, thanks for posting
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link
yes, a voice of experience
― imago, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:18 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah same
your post on this was basically my untangled thoughts silby, so thank you for that, much as i'm now rethinking them
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
it is necessary to have empathy for all parties in a scenario like this
― imago, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
idk that's how i go into things
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
well yeah, but sometimes most everyone (myself included) could do with the reminder
― imago, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
to clarify, when i posted that link upthread i meant it as "why people believe this shld have been made public" & not a 100% endorsement, although i did think it voiced valid concerns. am also rethinking after fgti's post
― lowercase (eric), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
― imago, Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:24 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh sorry my brain switched the first two words in your post
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link
This type of thing happened to Jerry lee Lewis all the time
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
i reread the post b/c i was worried i'd been too dismissive earlier and yeah, i think fgti is otm
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
I have more empathy for the "other party" than they probably deserve, if only because this individual is posting call-out posts on Tumblr rather than, say, mailing bombs to their target's family or sitting outside their idol's apartment with a copy of Catcher In The Rye. Blaming another person for your pain is a highly effective way of sublimating that pain-- everybody does it. However: it does not mitigate or resolve that pain. This individual will only find their pain resolved through other sources, not destroying the life of a former friend who has requested "no contact". My fury at this situation is not directed toward the "other party" so much as it is toward the way that Tumblr and Twitter have corroded the very real, very important cause and language of Restorative Justice and essentially granted any stalker, obsessed fan, ex-friend, ex-lover or whomstever a licence for "sanctioned abuse"-- because that is what this person is doing, they are abusing this musician. Textbook abuse. Not "oh he befriended me and he's old and should know better" ""abuse"". Targeting an individual's livelihood, an individual's marriage, toxifying the musician's relationship with their fans, and that musician's fan's relationship with that musician's music, implying that an individual's very human expressions of neediness and human contact with others is somehow covering up some sinister sexual impulse: this is abuse. And it is the co-opting of words like "abuse" and "accountability" by individuals who would-- unlike the musician in question-- actively seek to do harm to others? that is what fills me with fury today.
― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
Can I admit that I read through (with some skimming; it's long) the fan's Tumblr and kept waiting for a bomb that, as far as I can discern, never dropped?
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
I feel sick to my stomach about this whole thing and feel really bad about JD and feel like this should be locked or something.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
bad for JD*
fire coming off that fgti post
― imago, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
implying that an individual's very human expressions of neediness and human contact with others is somehow covering up some sinister sexual impulse
this is what bugged me hard about the tumblr post
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
glad to see we're all piling on this young person here
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
how wonderful it must be for someone who's like 20, who is clearly traumatized and on the receiving end of some communication that is substantially less than ideal given the power differential to be compared to people who mail bombs(!) or shot john lennon(!!)
also the original post had other people reporting similar weirdness, so that's a hell of a lot of people to be accusing of being stalkers
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link
literally there is no possible way on Earth this thread goes in a positive direction for anyone
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:40 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
Agreed. Locking this temporarily.
― mod, Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
So there’s this new EP...
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
it's pretty good. also I'm finally getting time to dig into Goths which for some reason I just hadn't gotten around to spending lots of time with.
― akm, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
Could I ask you to expand on this, fgti? I don’t see, for example, anything to do with his wife in the initial tumblr post.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 September 2018 09:20 (five years ago) link
I don’t think that topic was a good one for this website.
I like a lot of mountain goats songs btw.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 13 September 2018 09:22 (five years ago) link
Maybe not “a lot” compared to true fans. A bunch.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 13 September 2018 09:23 (five years ago) link
I found the way discussion got shut down in multiple threads pretty creepy, but I also recognize that nothing that happens on ILX actually matters
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:31 (five years ago) link
Agreed. In unrelated news, please visit my 'discussion of Simon H.'s off-board personal business' thread, where anything goes and we talk past the subject like he's not even here! Please don't censor me, bro.
― I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 September 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link
I might be annoyed about it, but if I were a person of semi-prominence (I'm not) I'd like to think I'd accept that this sort of comes with the territory.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link
Honestly, if an unfamous poster was publicly called out, ilx would probably be way more willing to get the knives out (fairly or unfairly) than they were here. However, that is not a reason to have this discussions, which I don’t think was leading us to wisdom and was against the Socratic ideals of the board
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link
there was the gawker drama a few years back, speaking of unfamous posters, but this is a bit different, in that this situation is not as cut-and-dried.
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
maybe poll the demand for an I Love Gossip board
― every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
we used to have that board but then it got turned into The Church? iirc?
― sarahell, Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
Will incl. new song, sez here:http://www.brooklynvegan.com/john-darnielle-curates-molly-ringwald-michael-shannon-more-for-halloween-stories-event/ Will this be like The Moth? Mothing Goats? And/or horror lit?
― dow, Monday, 8 October 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
New Album! In League With Dragons arrives Friday, April 26th on Merge Records.
(Album art by Elton D’Souza)
1. Done Bleeding2. Younger3. Passaic 19754. Clemency for the Wizard King5. Possum by Night6. In League with Dragons7. Doc Gooden8. Going Invisible 29. Waylon Jennings Live!10. Cadaver Sniffing Dog11. An Antidote for Strychnine12. Sicilian Crest
http://www.mountain-goats.com/
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link
strong move
― imago, Monday, 28 January 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
The dungeon synth Mountain Goats album we've all been waiting for
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
I like the new song more than most of the last album. Kinda a synthesis, stylistically, of the last few albums.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
whoa Gooden
also i lived in Passaic in 1990
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
Got my tickets already for September!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
They're live on the DnD twitch channel now. https://www.twitch.tv/dnd
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link
You know, I thought I needed a break after the last few records not really clicking with me but how am I not going to listen to a Ross Macdonald-influenced Mountain Goats record
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 03:17 (five years ago) link
This new track isn't quite grabbing me, though there's plenty to like about it--I figure it's a grower. I am already 100% on board for Dragon Noir, however.
― days of being riled (zchyrs), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
just noticed who it's produced by
really like the new song & the callback
― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link
Oh wow. It's like some kind of ilx fantasy.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link
would you say it’s an early one?
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
Quite the contrary...
― peace, man, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link
"this year" at the end of "minding the gap" couldn't have been a better choice; perfect capstone to a painfully beautiful movie
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 05:12 (five years ago) link
free NYC show at East River Park in August
https://cityparksfoundation.org/events/mountain-goats/?date=20190810
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
and also
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/22/714408952/first-listen-the-mountain-goats-in-league-with-dragons
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
is it just me or is there a weird edit at the very start of the first chord on sicilian crest?
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 28 April 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link
Good catch, getting that correct rn
I guess it's not a big deal, I mean, Grouper had the same thing happen with "Clearing"
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 28 April 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
saw them live on Friday, tour opener in DC. it was great fun, though DC crowds never dance around quite as much as I would like.
matt douglas was simply incredible. what a wonderful musician!
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link
i'm loving this...such an amazingly produced/recorded album...Passaic 1975 is going to be one of my fav MG tunes ever I think
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
<3 the engineer Matt Ross-Spang is just a genius dude. It has been interesting to read how people are talking about it being a "new direction" production-wise but in my mind I was just taking what I love about "Against Pollution" and trying to use it as a template for every song across the album-- this kind of tensile quality and space.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
Wizard King feels so special to me and I can’t place why. I love it.
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link
Hey they have a new backing singer.
10 years ago we did this song with Stephen on Comedy Central but it never aired. Tonight we did it again https://t.co/m8DwwRj6LH— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) July 17, 2019
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link
Good catch, getting that correct rnI guess it's not a big deal, I mean, Grouper had the same thing happen with "Clearing"― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, April 28, 2019 3:19 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, April 28, 2019 3:19 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
oh man i never saw this!
Listened to John on Song Exploder from a few weeks ago and I solidly would like to hear him discuss every song. Absolutely loved Colbert singing This Year also.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
I solidly would like to hear him discuss every song.
There's a podcast where he does this with Joseph Fink.
― Auld Drink of Misery (zchyrs), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
Get High And Listen To The Cure
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
As a parent, been thinking about Best Ever Death Metal Band in Denton this week and had to decide that the lessons of the lyrics no longer apply if Death Metal Band were switched out with Instagram Jackass Knockoff.
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
great song selections in "get high and listen to the cure," think i'm gonna get high and listen to the cure tonight
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
much love for the Dynamite Magazine font
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
think i'm gonna get high and listen to the cure tonight
you won't be sorry
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link
New song:
https://www.stereogum.com/2077321/watch-john-darnielle-debut-new-mountain-goats-song-for-the-snakes/video/
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 March 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link
is that available anywhere public?
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 23 March 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
sic: https://youtube-dl.org
― silby, Monday, 23 March 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
No less than five(!) separate, individual ads for "Donald Glover Presents" popped up when I followed that link. Stereogum getting that Childish Gambino $$$.
But I do really dig this TMG tune.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 March 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
afaik youtube-dl.org will not make a facebook video visible
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 23 March 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
Sorry I should’ve provided more steps
But I won’t
I tested them tho and they work
― silby, Monday, 23 March 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
For The Snakes still not public, but two other new home songs are:
Exegetic Chains
Until Olympius Returns
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
new tape is out (and on bandcamp!)
I recorded ten songs in ten days into my Panasonic RX-FT500. The album is now LIVE on Bandcamp; a limited edition of 1000 cassettes is in production and you can order one on Bandcamp, too. https://t.co/RCftMZ5CpD— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) April 10, 2020
― cajunsunday, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
Also: gone.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 April 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
said there will be more made, discouraging ppl from paying eBay prices
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
Yup, onto a third printing now.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
feel a bit iffy about making such calls in praesentia creatori but this new release is probably my favourite first-listen to any of their albums
― when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 12:04 (three years ago) link
he's still on here? I thought all his posts were from the early days of ILM.
― enochroot, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
Yes, incognito, local custom is to not discuss it too much.
― silby, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
Went back to All Eternals Deck today. Such a great album, some of my favourite TMG songs. High Hawk Season is incredible.
Amazing consistency.
― Mule, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
TMG makes me feel more like a human and less like the ego piece of shit that I guess I am
― Mule, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
New album in October:https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/getting-into-knives
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 05:06 (three years ago) link
New Song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otp5VzITCgs
― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
My cousin "got into" knives and his instagram turned kind of creepy full of demonstration videos of fancy artisan knives cutting objects in half.
― Evan, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link
I like how the last 4 or so full-band album titles each seemed geared toward some demo of fandom (wrestling, goths, D&D/MtG, Cold Steel).
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
this is cool
and I have to tell you in case anybody misses it: the organ on the new song? That swelling, throbbing, miraculous Hammond B3? that's CHARLES HODGES. THE GUY WHO WROTE THE "LET'S STAY TOGETHER" ORGAN LINE. "TAKE ME TO THE RIVER." "LOVE AND HAPPINESS." ~THAT~ GUY pic.twitter.com/UDK8fcIRHO— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) August 11, 2020
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link
wow
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
More on said song, including Whiney cameo (really)
because I have waited months to talk about our new stuff here's a thread about what's happening on this song. please do subscribe to our YouTube channel I hate to ask but I'm supposed to. https://t.co/vZ20jK2jZR— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) August 11, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
Appreciating the COVID haircut game here:
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,pg_1,q_80,w_1600/srn0ph9rmqihdynupab9.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
A marvelous song.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
...are those not pre-COVID haircuts, from a time when people could rub their faces on each other in a room?
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
also from a time when you could visit a stylist which they have all clearly done?
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
now I'm zooming in to figure out if that's a seam on Hughes' shoulder or they've all been composited in
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
ENHANCE
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
Forced perspective. JD is at the back of the room and he is also eighteen feet tall.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
...are those not pre-COVID haircuts, from a time when people could rub their faces on each other in a room?― Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 4:52 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglinkalso from a time when you could visit a stylist which they have all clearly done?― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:06 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 4:52 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, August 11, 2020 5:06 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
not that I would know but I have it on fairly good authority that none of these people have visited a stylist in 2020 and that this hair is 100% "what happens when you just let it go"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 14 August 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
(The pictures were taken last week. When your gig means you have to do a picture, even in a pandemic, you just sort of have to cross your fingers.)
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 14 August 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
Matt knows how to work his own pomade.
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 14 August 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link
'Getting Into Knives', eh? Am I gonna have to ban the Mountain Goats now too?
(j/k, looking forward to this!)
― emil.y, Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link
the sound of this song (arrangement + production) reminds me of the Okkervil River album I Am Very Far - orchestral, live-sounding, lightly gothy. I like that sound a lot.
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 August 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
Another song from the new album:
https://www.mergerecords.com/the-mountain-goats-are-ready-to-get-famous
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
fyi before clicking: it's a 29-second clip on Spotify if you don't have an account with that company
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
fyi before NOT clicking: there are other things on the page including words from John and a link to a page with links to non-Spotify places to listen to and buy the song and also buy the new album
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 14 September 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
good looking out: https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/track/get-famous
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
Okay, this is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH7nWoRXSKo
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
New track from the album up:
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/track/picture-of-my-dress
About it, plus a sad note about its recording:
On New Year's Day 2019, now a distant world away, Maggie Smith, author of "Good Bones," tweeted a plotline for an imaginary buddy movie about a divorced woman driving around the US with her wedding dress, taking it all around the country. I thought to myself: what if she's taking it to places she didn't go when she was married, what if she's showing her dress the life she didn't live? I hunkered down and a couple hours later I'd written "Picture of My Dress." In March of 2020, also now a distant world away, we recorded the tune with Matt Ross-Spang at Sam Phillips in Memphis. Playing on the track are the Mountain Goats -- John, Peter, Jon, and Matt -- plus Bram Gielen and Chris Boerner for that extra sweetness. We were assisted in the studio by one hell of a nice guy named Matt Denham, who died unexpectedly this week and we are all torn up about it because he was a real one so I am sending this out to you, bud. Everybody else give an extra head-nod while you listen to the studio attaché with the gentle way, a song like this can only be the result of everybody in the room being on the same wavelength and his contribution was a special energy that this world will miss but the next one is presently richer for. Enjoy!
An obituary for Denham can be found here. Based on the many notes on the tribute wall via this page, he was deeply loved:
https://www.colemanfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Matthew-Denham/#!/Obituary
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
The online show tonight was very lovely. Look forward to next week's too.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 October 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
Also really loved the show tonight, and having the chat to get excited with was a great touch. Can’t wait for next week’s stream.
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Friday, 23 October 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link
Looking forward to next week’s as well. Absolutely loved the Springsteenified Heel Turn 2 outro
― EvanP, Friday, 23 October 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link
New album is very rewarding. Lots of big tunes on it. I keep yelling along to Get Famous. Bell Swamp Connection and The Last Place I Saw You Alive are as goosebumpy as MG songs can be
― black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link
Don't sleep on "Great Gold Sheep" and "Rat Queen."
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 October 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
Trueee
― black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 26 October 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
Wow---two in one year, this year, has my head bouncing back toward a particular fave as well (for instance)---from my P&J Top Ten comments:The Mountain Goats--- Transcendental Youth No need to tunnel back into your Mountain Goats stash for comparative purposes; this album stands (leaps, eats tin cans) on its own terms, which acolytes and novices alike will recognize--not because it's a re-hash; just that all these coded hoodrat catacomb testimonies make unmistakably American sense. if you are a The Hold Steady fan but getting a bit frustrated with creative lovehandles, rest assured this contains no fat, does bring plenty crucial lyric and sonic detail, with hungry underdog cunning, zig-zag wandering and straight-ahead momentum. Also, if you're frustrated by good horn sections wasted on, say the Byrne/St. Vincent thing (yeah I'll listen again, or maybe not), well you've come to the right place, as Elvis would say. Kind of a King Creole urban twilight pang-vibe here, times art-rocking MGs leader John Darnielle's metal-compatible spirit too.
― dow, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link
Putting this on for the first time, I'm moved to wonder whether Belle & Sebastian is a reference point! I mean that in a nice way obviously. (There's a non-nice way?)
― imago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link
wau @ Rat Queen
― imago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 09:12 (three years ago) link
i need to check this out, "get famous" was a real bummer for me, so on the nose and obvious we live in a society stuff, kinda weird for such a great lyricist
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
Don't know how far back you want to go w the jangle, morrisp, but you might like Fields/Aquamarine, which is a reissue of the album and EP by the Individuals, who were one of the Hoboken Three, along with the Bongos and dBs, back in the late 70s and maybe early 80s, real good and you can read all about them on bar-none.com, along with other releases of related interest, like ones by the Feelies and Alex Chilton.Also I'd try the Bongos and dB's, and reissue comp of pre-dBs' incarnation the Scruffs, along with Big Star, the Shoes' Black Vinyl Shoes, the Bangles, the Records, 20/20, prob a lot more on YouTube etc. I haven't thought of.
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
And speaking of the dBs, Holsapple and Stamey have reworked some band material for the mostly acoustic Our Back Pages in Omnivore's MusiCares Covid-19 Relief Fund series (which also incl. an NRBQ set):...Signature dB’s songs, including “Black and White,” “Big Brown Eyes,” and “Happenstance,” are ably propelled here by lyric and guitar energy alone, and the hooks remain — it’s easy to find one’s self singing along. Tunes such as “Dynamite” and “From a Window to a Screen” are revealed as precursors to the music the two made together later, as they feature “dual lead,” close-harmony vocals as essential elements. Others, such as Peter’s “Today Could Be the Day” and “Molly Says,” were originally recorded by the band after Stamey’s departure, so this marks the first time he’s gone on record with them. When going through the material in preparation for mastering, they even discovered a forgotten track, “Depth of Field,” and completed it for this release; although a version had appeared on a Stamey solo record, it fits in here because it was originally written and rehearsed contemporaneously with the rest for The dB’s’ second album, Repercussion.
Another song, “Picture Sleeve,” is both old and new. A song by this title was in the band’s sets circa 1978, but all that anyone could remember, years later, were the first few lines, some chords, and the subject matter. Using those elements as a jumping-off point, it was rewritten for a Record Store Day single release three decades later, and a duo version is part of this release. Peter’s classic ballad “Nothing Is Wrong,” a staple of their live duo sets, was overlooked during the original sessions and sadly missed. Fortunately, it’s included on this new collection in a version The dB’s themselves recorded during a rehearsal in New York City in 2008.
“We’re still proud of the electric versions of the songs,” Stamey insists, “but a sturdy song should be able to handle a bit of reinvention from time to time...In most cases, it’s a trip back in time to the songs’ origins of being written on acoustic guitars in apartments or hotels..."
A few special guests joined Holsapple and Stamey on the sessions: John Teer (Chatham County Line) and Libby Rodenbough (Mipso) both contribute violin, and Andy Burton (Little Steven, John Mayer, Cyndi Lauper) plays keys on “Nothing Is Wrong” with, of course, Rigby (drums) and Holder (bass). The mastering by Greg Calbi and Steve Fallone at Sterling Sound is a homecoming of sorts as legendary mastering engineer Calbi had previously mastered the pair’s influential Mavericks outing as well as Falling Off the Sky, the last dB’s album. For the most part, it’s Peter and Chris around the campfire at Modern Recording in Chapel Hill, N.C., grabbing whatever was in the room at the time: a toy piano, a ukulele, a banjo, a harmonium, an upright or an old Silvertone bass, and of course, guitars, guitars, guitars.
In addition to 1991’s Mavericks (RNA Records), Holsapple and Stamey also paired up for 2009’s hERE & nOW (Bar/None). For more insight into the genesis of some of these songs, see A Spy in the House of Loud: New York Songs and Stories (University of Texas Press), Stamey’s 2018 “songwriting memoir.” Be on the lookout for A Brand-New Shade of Blue, Chris’s new audio-and-songbook collection, currently slated for a summer 2020 release.
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
O shit, sorry! Was meant for Rolling Reissues!
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
Tonight's show is also lovely.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 October 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link
Holy shit, this new one is fantastic. I wasn't a big fan of "Get Famous", but I'm sold on the record. It's all about the back half, where it goes from another pretty good Mountain Goats record to, "holy shit, this might be one of the best of the Merge era".
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 October 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
I mean, this is just so gorgeous sounding - right now it's the guitars in "Harbor Me" that are killing me.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
I already liked "Get Famous," but I otherwise agree. "Bell Swamp Connection" and "Wolf Count" are especially beautiful.
― Langdon Alger Stole the Highlights (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
incredible shirt
https://www.hellomerch.com/collections/the-mountain-goats/products/banned-black-t-shirt
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 30 October 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link
Hahah, that's pretty good.
To my total lack of surprise, I really enjoy this album. My favorite might be "Tidal Wave;" I always have time for that style of minimalist slow-build. Was listening in the car the other night and noticed that chorus of "Bell Swamp" is the same chord progression as "The Recognition Scene" and was all "WHAT DOES IT MEAN" until I realized it's a pretty common progression and dude's probably used it dozens of times.
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Sunday, 1 November 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
BTW you have four hours left if you want to buy the audio from the two livestream sessions the other month
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/the-jordan-lake-sessions-volumes-1-and-2
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
https://snake-boat.tumblr.com/post/646657742109589504/no-children-mountain-goats
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
"I hope you sink. I hope we both sink."
― nickn, Friday, 26 March 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
John just now announcing a new album via the preshow (as it were) to the new Jordan Lake performance stream just now. Dark In Here. Supposedly it is the 'rather gnarlier cousin' to Getting Into Knives
https://www.hellomerch.com/products/dark-in-here-artist-exclusive-double-vinyl
https://www.mergerecords.com/product/dark_in_here
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 April 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link
Mostly stepped away from ILX these days, no?
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 April 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link
And here's a track
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/track/mobile
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
POGS!
https://www.mergerecords.com/product/dark_in_here_pog_pack
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
I have to admit I cried when he played 'Snow Owl' in the most recent Jordan Lake session.
I'm excited to hear 11. Arguing With the Ghost of Peter Laughner About His Coney Island Baby Review (3:58)
Here's a live version of Let Me Bathe In Demonic Light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3314PC5DCg
― cajunsunday, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
Now that's a song title
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/track/the-slow-parts-on-death-metal-albums
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
I also can't wait to hear "Arguing With the Ghost of Peter Laughner About His Coney Island Baby Review".
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link
Also a v good thread on song and the creation of the album (and correct background singer credits!)
so like I was telling you we've got a new song out today and here it is!! https://t.co/BBrDYaLjkEa couple words about it --— The Mountain Goats (@mountain_goats) May 11, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
Another new song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkO_8or9mLs
― edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
ridiculous that this wasn't titled 'dark in herre'
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
just got it in the mail, really amazing record here imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
very surprising this far along the line but this is, to me, the most band-interplay focused of any of their records, you can hear them growing and searching and basically nailing everything they attempt not only because they know each other so well but because they know the realm in which this material is occurring and they strive to replicate the landscape
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
Wear my lizard suit to the party - its so hard to get noticed in this town
― cajunsunday, Friday, 25 June 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link
"slow parts" is such an amazing song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 June 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link
Good album. The title track, "Mobile," and " Before I Got There" are my favorites so far .
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
"arguing with the ghost of peter laughner" is probably my favorite song title and song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 June 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
same. I wasn't expecting it to be such a pretty little song!
― cajunsunday, Friday, 25 June 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link
fantastic lp.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
Spooner Oldham!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 11:42 (two years ago) link
A good read and the man himself is interviewed
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22745655/mountain-goats-no-children-tiktok
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 04:38 (two years ago) link
Go girl pic.twitter.com/kNA0a0lvIm— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) October 26, 2021
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 05:19 (two years ago) link
"no children" going viral on tik tok brings me so so so much joy
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 06:04 (two years ago) link
Devil House is really remarkable. Absolutely is.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link
I've been assidously avoiding all reviews and publicity, today I discover I have to wait another two months for the ebook.
― for 200 anyone can receive a dud nvidia (ledge), Sunday, 6 February 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link
Hi folks I interviewed @mountain_goats for @NewYorker https://t.co/p57BcrlZ3x— Helen Rosner (@hels) April 24, 2022
― dow, Sunday, 24 April 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
Keep pondering JD's comments in that interview on being in one's fifties. Also, my partner took that portrait!
― bendy, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
Excellent interview.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
I’m over fifty. Being over fifty is miraculous. You get just a broader view on your previous iterations of yourself, and they all look like miserable failures. But I’m told that the next errand is to have pity on them. I don’t know about that. People think you should forgive them. I don’t expect to get there, but you at least get some perspective on your motivations. I think young people do practically everything out of fear, whether it’s fear of missing out, or fear of not becoming what you want to become, or fear of not getting away from what you want to get away from. If you keep working spiritually, you think, “Oh, wait, if I work and I’m able to provide for myself, what do I truly have to be afraid of?” Not so much. And, well, then you can approach something like freedom, I guess.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
(I'm not 50 just yet but this sounds like hope.)
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
It's accurate.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link
New song!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lttMHEdpZM
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 2 June 2022 06:45 (one year ago) link
That packs a wallop! Crossposted to the thread of cheesy eighties training montages.
― peace, man, Thursday, 2 June 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link
New song, hell, new album:https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/bleed-out
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link
Extremely hype for this, what a fantastic cover as well
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 2 June 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link
Super excited for this, and I have to say I love this little mysterious breadcrumb in the bandcamp credits:
Final punchline for “Bleed Out” graciously supplied by Peter Hughes in late-night writing session
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
Clearly this T-shirt is a necessity
This @mountain_goats t-shirt in Italian? Instant pre-order. https://t.co/1e5CkaptLj pic.twitter.com/aQvxrcAzmL— Fondano 🤌 (@twinfountain) June 2, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link
It's gonna get so dark for you, I'm gonna leave a mark on you.
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
This new one is so so so good.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link
Loud too!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link
Good and loud indeed.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
keep misreading this every single time
Hurricane #Danielle Advisory 25: Resilient Danielle Strengthens a Little While Accelerating Toward the Northeast. Massive High Seas Area Extends Nearly 350 Miles From Danielle'S Eye. https://t.co/tW4KeGe9uJ— National Hurricane Center (@NHC_Atlantic) September 7, 2022
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 08:59 (one year ago) link
Sonically at least, the new album could have been called Hurricane Darnielle.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link
New album soon!
https://themountaingoats.bandcamp.com/album/jenny-from-thebes
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:46 (eight months ago) link
rocked out to west texas tonight for the first time in years
"and the deathless love we swore to protect with our bodies is stumbling across it's bleak ending"
darnielle is probably the greatest ever at cramming syllables into a line without ever making them sound crammed in
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 13 October 2023 04:08 (five months ago) link
Omg @ Fresh Tattoo
― imago, Friday, 27 October 2023 13:23 (five months ago) link
Bless you Hard Times https://www.instagram.com/p/CzTcZ05sioL/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
― lethbridge-pfunkboy (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 26 November 2023 05:04 (four months ago) link
Mountain Goats, New P's , and Margaret Glaspy in August at big venue Wolf Trap , near DC. Wow .
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:11 (six days ago) link