Animated Creatures: ILX's top 100 animated films (results thread)

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Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

#99T: Only Yesterday
aka Omoide Poro Poro
dir. TAKAHATA Isao
1991, Japan
73 points, 2 votes

trailer

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

#99T: Vinni-Pukh
dir. Fyodor Khitruk
1969, USSR
73 points, 2 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

that'll do it till tomorrow

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

sneak peek

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Z S will you follow me around and blast that out of a boom box whenever I say something in real life? Feel like it'd be a real morale-booster for everyone

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

definitely!
i would love to do that, for real!

pump it pump it pump it

i'm really looking forward to these results, even though i didn't vote in the poll. i don't know very much about animated film, and i'm excited to check out all the stuff i've never heard of. *pumps up the jam*

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

OH GOD ABORT just realized one ballot wasn't getting properly counted let's check if it makes a difference to uh those two

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

yep, folks, those would've been 99T if I had not just fixed something; now they're tied for 104th.

If this had been a real emergency, you would already be pumping up the jam.

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I get the feeling that the ballot is mine. :(

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

BUT YAY EXCITED.

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

no dude it was someone else's who didn't use my clever ID number system and I forgot to fix up their ballot when I was doing that, so when I was running my clever vote-counting program it wasn't getting counted properly. But now it is.

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Glad you made the mistake, because I never would've known checked the Russian Winnie Pooh otherwise, that one looks awesome!

Tuomas, Monday, 16 July 2012 08:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Since we're not going to returning to Only Yesterday, then, the wikipedia page on it makes it sound like a great leap forward of, er, bringing indiecore to anime. This is something that I'm sort of aware of as a thing - I'm curious if this is down to Only Yesterday, or whether it was always there just under the surface.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

for real this time

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

no dude it was someone else's who didn't use my clever ID number system

was this me? i didnt realize there was some system so i just sent you a list of movies

Lamp, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

#100: Little Red Riding Rabbit
dir. Friz Freleng
1944, USA
77 points, 3 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp Lamp don't worry you weren't the only one, it's ok wasn't that big a deal. All is well, now!

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I'm most interested in seeing the distribution of shorts:features. I had both but definitely weighted toward the latter.

emil.y, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Same, though the WB shorts went a long way towards balancing out my ballot.

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Masterfully obnoxious rendition of "Five O'Clock Whistle" in "Little Red Riding Rabbit."

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 16 July 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really had no idea how to rate shorts vs. features, just tossed it all in and hoped for the best.

some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

#98T: When the Wind Blows
dir. Jimmy Murakami
1986, UK
78 points, 3 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

My sister claims to still be traumatized by this film some 25 years later.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

#98T: Gandahar
aka Light Years
dir René Laloux
1988, France

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where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

(78 points, 3 votes)

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

(as implied by the tie I guess)

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Little Red Riding Hood doing splits over coals.

bamcquern, Monday, 16 July 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

When I was a kid I really liked the bit of Riding Hood showing Bugs Bunny the rabbit in her basket.

bamcquern, Monday, 16 July 2012 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought I watched a lot of cartoons, but I've not even heard of any of these! Not a complaint, btw.

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 01:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, really, When the Wind Blows that low? I thought for sure it'd be in the top 20.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh man, Gandahar looks awesome, got to check that one out.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was one of the three votes for for 'gandahar', dope movie, rad concepts

Lamp, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 07:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm a little shocked by Where the Wind Blows' placing, I thought it would pick up some notice from the Threads discussion in the horror movies poll. On the other hand, I can see it being a niche character piece and it's not exactly in the canon - Grave of the Fireflies at 98 would amaze me as a comparison.

I will nonetheless go completely ape if The Wrong Trousers, with all of those handicaps, places outside the top 10 :)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 10:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm expecting the unexpected, i think the canon has much less stranglehold here. i only voted for one WB short, for example.

ledge, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 11:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i put The Wrong Trousers very high on my ballot but seriously dude you need to stop talking about it until it shows up

some dude, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 12:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I intend to bring it up every time there's a film well-regarded in the UK and unknown in the US to compare it to. So, not until it shows up.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 12:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

wallace and gromit are not unknown in the US

some dude, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 12:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gandahar is by the same dude as Planet Sauvage, yes? I had to cut that from my ballot as I've only seen clips and not the whole thing all the way through, but his animation style really is amazing.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sad, I'm reminded that I didn't beg my pop hard enough to have him take me to see Gandahar when it played in theatres (as Light Years in the US).

Spectrist, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

#97: Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro
aka Rupan Sansei: Kariosutoro no Shiro, ルパン三世 カリオストロの城
dir. MIYAZAKI Hayao
1979, Japan
80 points, 2 votes

trailer

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, really, When the Wind Blows that low? I thought for sure it'd be in the top 20.

have never been able to make it through a full minute of this, lrn 2 read u heathens my seven-year-old self thinks

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 05:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have seen Cagliostro twice and still don't remember much about it, except that despite being straightforwardly cartoonish and not at all yer typical Miyazaki film, it was hella fun.

ledge, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 08:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

lrn 2 read u heathens my seven-year-old self thinks

I'm not sure what you mean here? As in, we should read the book instead and thus the film is worthless? Does that mean you've never enjoyed any adaptation ever? No matter how skilfully directed/acted/edited?

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Um... What's the projected time scale for this poll?

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Faster than it has been; my life is unexpectedly ridiculous lately. Progress shall be made.

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

All good, I was just wondering if the pace was deliberate!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

#95T: 8 Ball Bunny
dir. Chuck Jones
1950, USA
80 points, 3 votes

film

#95T: Bad Luck Blackie
dir. Tex Avery
1949, USA
80 points, 3 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

#92T: Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise
aka Ōritsu Uchūgun: Oneamisu no Tsubasa, 王立宇宙軍 オネアミスの翼
dir. YAMAGA Hiroyuki
1987, Japan
82 points, 2 votes

empire magazine's jeff yogel gave it four stars, saying 'animation equal to anything from uncle walt'

#92T: The Plague Dogs
dir. Martin Rosen
1982, UK
82 points, 2 votes

trailer

#92T: Bimbo's Initiation
dir. Dave Fleischer
1981, USA
82 points, 2 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not seen any of that lot. Heard of Plague Dogs due to the Watership Down connection, but never watched it.

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wings of Honneamise is great; there's such loving attention to detail in the construction of its alternate Earth, and it's amazing they managed to produce a big-budget sci-fi movie that's essentially a slow-tempo meditation on what drives humanity forward. It's kinda like a anime counterpart to 2001: Space Odyssey, except that it's not boring.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

and the trailer posted above says ryuichi sakamoto did the soundtrack!

your friend, (Z S), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oooooh Sakamoto. Cool!

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

(Also: ignoring Tuomas on 2001, nyah)

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

The soundtrack is awesome too.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Plague Dogs is great, one of my favorite movies. But totally heartbreaking, esp. if you like dogs.

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Now I am wishing I had had the time to vote in this poll!

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

#91: Kung Fu Panda
dir. John Wayne Stevenson and Mark Osborne
2008, USA
82 points, 3 votes

trailer

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

too low for Bimbo's Initiation!

I'm not sure what you mean here? As in, we should read the book instead and thus the film is worthless? Does that mean you've never enjoyed any adaptation ever? No matter how skilfully directed/acted/edited?

I'm slightly less hardline about this as a principle than when I was 7. but in this specific case, Briggs is so warm and inviting at first, and (as in all his work) the audience is drawn in so much by how much of a hand-made, one-creator artifact each page and panel is, with the colour so splotched and unblended; and then the adaptation hurls all of that charm away with herky-jerky motions and smoothed-out character models with dead eyes and iirc a really stiff clash btwn flat-colour figures and immobile painted bgs.

UGH I just looked at the first minute or so on youtube to check my decades-old memory and opening with real news footage! having him read TV coverage in the newspaper? crossing back and forth btwn film and cartoon! COMPOSITING FILMED SKIES INTO CARTOON BGS! him on the bus where Jim is animated by one person or team, the teenage couple on the other side are obviously animated by an apprentice team, rocking that 30's bouncy motion, LOOPING one second's action even though they then move afterwards, and the couple up the back being non-animated part of the background UGH UGH UGH

The Snowman can fuck off too imo (actually I've never seen it. I did see the Irn-Bru ad that parodies it, on the internets, though.)

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2012 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm p mad at D&Q just for making their G. Jim GN half-size too tbh, I dig my Briggs

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

too low for Bimbo's Initiation!

I'd actually never seen it before seeing it nominated and looking it up — apart from the Popeyes I really didn't know the Fleischer stuff, wouldn't be surprised if others didn't either. The lack of decent home video versions may be partly responsible?

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 19 July 2012 01:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyway I voted for it.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 19 July 2012 01:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

wouldn't have voted it so high myself if I hadn't been reacquainted with it by Jim Woodring showing the whole thing during a lecture at Sydney Opera House last year tbf

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

is Kung Fu Panda actually good

Number None, Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

No.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

kung fu panda is the first one where i'm really kicking myself i didnt get my shit together enough to vote.

big-mammed punisher (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't blame me, i voted for Kung Fu Panda 2

Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

the way i feel about kung fu panda is that if fern gully had come out 4 years ago it might've appeared here too

Mordy, Thursday, 19 July 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

for the Tone Loc rap

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 July 2012 04:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kung Fu Panda is one where I spent some time reconsidering where to put it in the ballot - it's shiny and corporate and it has a terrible sequel, but on the other hand it's flawless for what it is, it's funny and fat-positive and a great Kung Fu film made by people who clearly love Kung Fu. That trailer, though, is terrible.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 July 2012 07:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Found The Wings of Honnêamise pretty dull tbh, protagonist a tool.

ledge, Thursday, 19 July 2012 08:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the sequel terrible? charlie kaufman's involvement gives me certain expectations

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Thursday, 19 July 2012 10:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 Ball Bunny -- didn't find a decent YT of this, but damn did I feel the surge of memories, I couldn't believe how much empathy it elicited from me (well, there *is* the cute as hell penguin).

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Friday, 20 July 2012 02:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

#90: Illusionist, The
aka L'illusionniste
dir. Sylvain Chomet
2010, France
83 points, 3 votes

trailer

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 20 July 2012 02:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Illusionist also made me cry like a maniac! I really loved it.

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Friday, 20 July 2012 03:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

#89: Allegro non troppo
84 points, 3 votes

'Bolero' segment

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 20 July 2012 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh and that's
dir. Bruno Bozzetto
1976, Italy

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 20 July 2012 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ir's so good! It also made me cry! And get high!

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Friday, 20 July 2012 04:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

'allegro' is amazing!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 July 2012 04:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Will watch Allegro but I guess I should watch Fantasia first. (Was going to before the poll but didn't manage to get round to it.)

ledge, Friday, 20 July 2012 10:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

yay allegro! i didn't vote and i figured it wouldn't get in without mine so gj. the valse triste segment still makes me sob just to think about it

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Friday, 20 July 2012 10:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

It has some sad stuff, it has some trees made of boobs.

in charge of refreshments tonight is (Abbbottt), Friday, 20 July 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

#88: Animal Farm
dir. John Halas & Joy Batchelor
1954, UK
85 points, 3 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 20 July 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

the idea that any aardman animation thing belongs on a list of the best anything is so bizarre, to me

thomp, Friday, 20 July 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've now got "Animal Farm! Animal Farm!" stuck in my head to the tune of Beethoven's 5th. This is going to take some shaking.

emil.y, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

the idea that any aardman animation thing belongs on a list of the best anything is so bizarre, to me

― thomp, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:53 (6 hours ago) Bookmark

how come?

Number None, Friday, 20 July 2012 22:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've never seen the 'animal farm' film -- is it actually any good?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 July 2012 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

#85T: Jungle Book, The
dir. Wolfgang Reitherman
1967, USA
86 points, 4 votes

trailer

#85T: Birds Anonymous
dir. Friz Freleng
1957, USA
86 points, 4 votes

film

#85T: Rango
dir. Gore Verbinski
2011, USA
86 points, 4 votes

trailer

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 20 July 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rango has a fantastic opening but becomes pretty generic afterwards.

abanana, Saturday, 21 July 2012 09:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wha'happen?

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 July 2012 12:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rango finds a western town populated with Antz rejects and oh wait

abanana, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

sry guys here comes some

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

#84: Gertie the Dinosaur
dir. Winsor McCay
1914, USA
87 points, 2 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

#83: Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
dir. Steve Box & Nick Park
2005, UK
87 points, 4 votes

trailer (the creators of chicken run are back!

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ A+ screencap!

°™ (Pillbox), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

#82: Storytime
dir. Terry Gilliam
1968, UK
88 points, 3 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 27 July 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

#81: Jumping
dir. TEZUKA Osamu
1984, Japan
88 points, 4 votes

film

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Friday, 27 July 2012 03:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love that illustration/still - I should prob put Jumping on my list, then

°™ (Pillbox), Friday, 27 July 2012 03:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow that's great. shame about the shitty youtube quality though as the drawing looks top-notch.

if you're seriously lazy skip to 5:50 in the gilliam for the crucial section.

ledge, Friday, 27 July 2012 08:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha, I'm sure I'd already seen that Gilliam somewhere back in the mists of time. Pretty great.

emil.y, Friday, 27 July 2012 11:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thank you ILX for sharing these last two films, which I quite very very much enjoyed.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 28 July 2012 01:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

#80: Secret of Kells, The
dir. Tomm Moore & Nora Twomey
2009, Ireland/France/Belgium
90 points, 2 votes

trailer

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Netflix version is unwatchable, unfortunately.

abanana, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

'kells' is very pretty and kind of breathtaking in spots but the story's kinda not that great IMO.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

The story was fine but the visual style was what really stood out.

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

#79: The Little Mermaid
dir. Ron Clements & John Musker
1989, USA
90 points, 3 votes

trailer (WARNING: I did not download this from LimeWire)

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fine animation but I don't get why it started Disney's comeback.

abanana, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

It was well enough recieved, which was a pleasant change, but Disney is Back! didn't really start until Beauty and the Beast.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fine animation but I don't get why it started Disney's comeback.

― abanana, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:23 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

good songs

Number None, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

abanana, Thursday, 2 August 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

#78: Rejected
dir. Don Hertzfeldt
2000, USA
94 points, 2 votes

film w/ text commentary

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kells left me completely wrecked at the end, tears streaming down my face.

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haven't seen it, but now I'm curious - - What's the deal with the netflix version, exactly?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

No idea! I saw it in the theater.

Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

SD and herky-jerky.

abanana, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

blargh! Well, I'll catch it sometime somehow then... I'm definitely curious now.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

'kells' is very pretty and kind of breathtaking in spots but the story's kinda not that great IMO.

i feel the same. vikings were the best.

ledge, Friday, 3 August 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kells was visually lovely and certainly respectable but it lacked even a hint of a pulse.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 3 August 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

#77: Feed the Kitty
dir. Chuck Jones
1952, USA
94 points, 3 votes

film

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i appreciate the slow unveil.

billstevejim, Sunday, 5 August 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm glad because I am deeply ashamed about it! :(

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Sunday, 5 August 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe not "deeply"

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Sunday, 5 August 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

it gives busy people the time to actually watch these things.

billstevejim, Sunday, 5 August 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ so true

Mordy, Monday, 6 August 2012 01:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

wish i had noticed/voted but greatly appreciate the youtube links to the few of these i don't know

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 August 2012 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe this is a good time to mention: Ren & Stimpy animator/genius/cool dude John Kricfalusi was a guest on the Nerdist podcast on Friday -- all kinds of great stuff in here, including a killer story about an adventure he had with Bob Clampett. lots of stuff about the old school animators, the horrible 80's years, everything. http://www.nerdist.com/2012/08/nerdist-podcast-john-k/

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 August 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

What's up with this poll?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I suck is what's up! Having a job is confusing and takes a lot of time and energy, I'm not used to it. I'm gonna close this out though, I promise.

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

*Just* watched the Winnie the Pooh -- OH MY GOD. So brilliant, and also exquisitely (painfully) poignant towards the end.

R=J-L (Leee), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks so much for tezuka's jump; I was just discussing it with a friend. so good.

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw, everyone should see Barta's "Toys in the Attic" when it's on video

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

man I need to get back on this. This isn't the first time I've fucked up at following through with a messageboard poll! I'm serious! Life has been a bit chaotic though. Sorry sports fans.

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

leee -- do you mean the russian one or the disney one?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 September 2012 06:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Russian!

R=J-L (Leee), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

hell yeah, i love russian winnie

billstevejim, Friday, 7 September 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

kinda bummed it didn't make the top 100, but happy it came close enough to be included in this thread by accident haha

billstevejim, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not just an overly sentimental sap when it comes to toons, am I? Winnie is srsly affecting, yeah?

R=J-L (Leee), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah, they're gorgeous cartoons. you don't even need the subtitles to enjoy them.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

How's the job going? How are the results going? How's anything going?

The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Monday, 17 September 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

a friend posted this on twitter recently...

billstevejim, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also recently found on a hidden web 1.0 page with several UK and European based shorts were in some sort of mid-60's competition.. Clips for Dirty Birdy and Wallace & Gromit were among the dozens of nominees. Years later, my friends found this with no context of what it could be about and we decided it was creepy as hell, and the 20-seconds of dialogue have stuck in my head ever since... "Come from there. Who's your parents? Don't know. Grew up in an orphanage." I just did 20-minutes of Google searching to determine the short is called "Ugly Head," and I've been wanting to view the entire thing since 11 years ago, just out of curiousity.

billstevejim, Saturday, 22 September 2012 06:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seemed like a good place to put this?

http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/250-great-animated-shorts-the-list

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

anybody want to find links to all those?

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll do a few from bottom up:

The Fantastic Flying Books of Mister Morris Lessmore -

The Silence Beneath the Bark -

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here are the earliest 100 I could find, all in one handy playlist:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyZi9TJztc35agD-2tMIUmYX2f87polnz

If anyone can find youtubes of the following I'll add them in:

Spiritual Constructions / Seelische Konstruktionen (Oskar Fischinger, Germany, 1927)
Motion Painting No. 1 (Oskar Fischinger, USA, 1947)
Gymnopédies (Larry Jordan, USA, 1965)
The Seventh Father in the House / Sjuende far i huset (Ivo Caprino, Norway, 1966)

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, nice!

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

100 animated-short masters in nine minutes:

http://www.fandor.com/blog/video-100-masters-of-animated-short-films

Obv works best as a spur to further research. (also that link http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/250-great-animated-shorts-the-list# )

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

crossposted in tcm alert thread

it’s with great honor that I report to you that an hour’s worth of rare silent-era animation from my collection will be airing on Turner Classic Movies, *tonight*, at 12am eastern/9pm pacific. For this very special and long overdue broadcast event, we’ve curated several rare, once-thought-lost, historically significant or just downright funny cartoons produced in New York City between 1907 and 1926. That’s not all, though--TCM host Robert Osborne, with Jerry Beck co-hosting, are also presenting both Fleischer features, a block of UPA cartoons, and The Adventures of Prince Achmed in addition to the early NYC shorts.

It’s not to be missed! I hope some or many of you can tune in or set your DVR in time. Important links pertaining to this event below...

My guide to the early NYC animation:
http://cartoonsonfilm.blogspot.com/2012/10/silent-nyc-animation-on-turner-classic.html

Jerry Beck’s rundown of the entire evening’s broadcast:
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/classic/first-look-jerry-on-tcm-70817.html

Want to see more programming like this on TCM? Tell TCM how you feel here:
http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=165828&tstart=0

The Facebook pre-party has been going on for weeks now! Join in on the fun, and see all the great images and comments that have been posted in anticipation this past month:
http://www.facebook.com/events/400697199995338/?fref=ts

let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 October 2012 00:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Came back to check this out. I was introduced to so many great animations through these threads. Sad I didn't vote. Curious abt 76-1!

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 9 November 2012 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I suspect silby has removed bookmark on this thread :)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 November 2012 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 9 November 2012 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 November 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

No reason he couldn't pass the numbers on to someone else to finish the results rollout.

WilliamC, Friday, 9 November 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

The rollout reminds me of the heady days of ILC.

Leeezzarina Sbarro (Leee), Saturday, 10 November 2012 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Does someone want to volunteer to complete the rollout? I seem to not be trustworthy.

Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Or alternately I can try to get this ship afloat again tonight. Shame-inspired mental blocks are a drag

Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah, I get it, dude. I don't feel like volunteering to take over the roll-out, so I won't contribute further to guilt. Any good Samaritans out there?

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok

does smooshing cloacae together actually count as sodomy??? (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

#76: Red Hot Riding Hood
dir. Tex Avery
1943, USA
98 points, 5 votes

film

does smooshing cloacae together actually count as sodomy??? (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

TOO LOW

Everybody did shit, art happened! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

gr8 comeback

good naber He help get undr control (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

(the poll, not forks)

good naber He help get undr control (sic), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

yay, it's back on!

Never actually seen "Little Red Hot Riding Hood" before, or at least not all the way through. Pretty good stuff! Takes a few minutes to really get rolling but some killer sight gags along the way - love the wolf's contraption for giving extra applause and table-pounding - and the climax at Grandma's is a real outpouring of technique and excitement (even if the content itself is kind of misogynistic and gross).

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yay!

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

you think that's exciting

does smooshing cloacae together actually count as sodomy??? (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

#75: The Brave Little Toaster
dir. Jerry Rees
1987, USA
99 points, 4 votes

film (inexplicably)

does smooshing cloacae together actually count as sodomy??? (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I DO NOT OWN The Brave Little Toaster
I DO NOT OWN ANY RIGHTS TO THIS VIDEO

mod is my co-pilot (Pillbox), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Awww the brave little toaster.

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Looking forward to the CGI remake from the folks who brought us the Chipmunks films!

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't even joke.

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugh smdh

mod is my co-pilot (Pillbox), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

They specialize in buying old properties and giving them cancer.

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

#74: Bambi Meets Godzilla
written by Marv Newland
screenplay by Marv Newland
choreography by Marv Newland
bambi's wardrobe by Marv Newland
produced by Marv Newland
Marv Newland produced by Mr. and Mrs. Newland
dir. Marv Newland
1969, USA (?)
99 points, 5 votes

film

does smooshing cloacae together actually count as sodomy??? (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

yessssssss
psyched about this comeback

billstevejim, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 08:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

So many timeless sight gags in Red Hot Riding Hood - sadly Tumblr/etc seems heavier on animated gifs of Red rather than the wolf's table-pounding, heart-thumping-out-of-chest, etc.

Bambi Meets Godzilla is so great; turns up in all sorts of weird places/anthologies/etc.

etc, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 08:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks, silby!

nuts spats (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah thanks! Really looking forward to the rest of the rollout.

Dog the Puffin Hunter (ledge), Thursday, 15 November 2012 09:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Same here, thanks for reviving it.

WilliamC, Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Hey so I found out that there are at least two more parts to the Russian Winnie the Pooh clip.

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Sunday, 16 December 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, did anyone know this existed?
http://liquidtelevision.com
I'm wondering if MTV's responsible for this. There's some incredible stuff on here.

billstevejim, Monday, 17 December 2012 04:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

this might be cool... i didn't watch all of it. if it's bad i apologize.

billstevejim, Monday, 17 December 2012 05:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got the next week+ off, if someone wants to hand the results off to me, I'll ask no questions.

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Thursday, 20 December 2012 08:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

If that's what you want to do with your vaca, I have no objections! If your webmail addr is defunct, webmail me, otherwise, I'll webmail you tonite.

wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

#73: Fievel: An American Tail
dir. Phil Nibbelink, Simon Wells
1991, USA
100 points, 2 votes

trailer

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

cool to see this thread up again!

fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Open question: are there enough people around during the holidays for me to roll out the rest of results this week?

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll be offline most of the week personally

fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 06:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll be around, but happy to wait.

ledge, Sunday, 23 December 2012 10:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll be around! :D

vote! (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

"An American Tail" was my #1!
[it was '86 tho, and don bluth directed :) the 2 dudes listed here did "fievel goes west" which was an ok movie]
it gets me happy whenever even 1 more placement gets posted here.

billstevejim, Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

my #1 too iirc!

Mordy, Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

is that 50 points each? looks like we were the only 2. haha

billstevejim, Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I automated the lookup for movie info, so we might get some wacky directors, years, etc. Will try to post a few later today!

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

#72: I Love to Singa
dir. Tex Avery
1936, USA
104 points, 3 votes

film

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haven't seen An American Tail since it came out - when I was, like, five. MAYbe on video once after that but I doubt it. Does it hold up?

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

#71: Laputa: Castle in the Sky
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
1986, USA
107 points, 3 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#70: Emperor's New Groove, The
dir. Mark Dindal
2000, USA
110 points, 4 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

People like that film? Never seen it, always dismissed it as lackluster late-period Disney, unfairly it would seem.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also big up Laputa, my favourite Miyazaki film some days.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

TBH, I nearly fell asleep watching Laputa -- non-air-conditioned school auditorium during the summer, granted...

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 02:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's a straight-up thrilling adventure yarn, blame the heat.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 02:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Emperor's New Groove is a lot of fun. Glad it made it.

abanana, Monday, 24 December 2012 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

emperor over laputa is nuts

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 December 2012 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

emperor's new groove is awesome. Leagues better than every other Disney movie from that era.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 24 December 2012 02:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I doubt it reaches the heights of Atlantis: The Lost Empire! (Am I the only one stanning that one?)

FYI, next batch will go up tomorrow, seeing as we're getting some discussion the last few entries!

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 02:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks Leee, definite interest from me at least.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 02:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Caught Emperor's New Groove once on TV and ended up sitting straight through it. Don't remember a thing about it, and wouldn't watch it again I think but it was definitely a "Hey, wow, this is genuinely entertaining!" That was this period where there were really really clear lines between their "A" team mega-musical blockbusters and their "B" team screwball slice-of-life movies and the latter were pretty great IIRC - Lilo and Stitch is the other main one.

Laputa is great but definitely not my top Miyazaki. Great adventure yarn is right. The story elements are all exactly where you'd expect to find them and the characters are heartwarming in the right places and so on, but the design work, animation, and atmosphere put it over the top. Couple of spectacular set pieces. It also really convincingly sells the majesty, mystery and dreaminess of the mysterious lost civilization from the past; the robots are super-cool, all-powerful, but also fundamentally un-knowable, and that goes for Laputa itself. He doesn't rush you past it. Interesting to consider all that in light of the way he ended up playing the end of the Nausicaa manga, which takes a much dimmer view of the ancient, lost civilization, and the robot-equivalents that it left behind.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 December 2012 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Couple of spectacular set pieces.

The robot casually eviscerating the Government fortress is THE Miyazaki setpiece as far as I'm concerned. Chills just thinking about it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll be rewatching laputa this week i think and it's been years since my last viewing, but it's fondly remembered
emperor is just sorta meh

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 December 2012 07:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

My fault for watching the Disney dub perhaps, but the kids in laputa were seriously annoying, the boy especially. Wasn't mad keen on the pirates either. Agree about the set pieces, and the wonderful design and mystery of the castle, but overall it was a bit too childish for me (as distinct from childlike, e.g. Totoro).

ledge, Monday, 24 December 2012 08:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

That was this period where there were really really clear lines between their "A" team mega-musical blockbusters and their "B" team screwball slice-of-life movies and the latter were pretty great IIRC

funnily enough Emperor's New Groove started out as the former before being redeveloped

Number None, Monday, 24 December 2012 09:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, never watch the disney miyazaki dubs, they are always inferior

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 December 2012 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

The robot casually eviscerating the Government fortress is THE Miyazaki setpiece as far as I'm concerned. Chills just thinking about it.

Yeah, exactly! Also the big chase at the beginning. I'm always wowed by the idea of people sitting there animating every shattered piece of wood flying up from the railway, etc.

I have only seen Laputa in subs so I dunno about the Disney voices, but the kids are slightly annoying in the original, again just for being sort of stock types more than for any other reason. OTOH I kind of lose interest when Miyazaki gets more and more into weirdness for weirdness's sake; Howl, for example, seemed to me to be trying to hard to throw lots of different concepts together in order to create a dreamlike melange, but coming out feeling forced and awkward. Just recently re-read the Nausicaa manga for the billionth time and I feel it pulls off a really nice balance between archetypes and a consistent unfamiliar weirdness and originality. I'm convinced that's his most compelling and unified work... a shame it'll never be half as well-known as any of the films.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 December 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh I might have to read the manga in that case. The film of Nausicaa is a wee bit dull IMO.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would agree with that totally - it's probably the one of his that I have the least interest in re-watching actually. But it only covers maybe the first fifth of the manga, and that with a lot of the subtlety stripped out. The manga was a long, long-term project and had a lot of room to develop nuances, minor characters, people changing allegiances, all that, and the nature-loving theme sustains more and more challenges to its core. It's definitely a conversation-starter IMO.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 December 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

just saw laputa in theaters - amazing, much more action packed than I had remembered! (for some reason I thought it was a more chill movie showing two kids chilling on a giant fortress]

乒乓, Monday, 24 December 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, that and Cagliostro are the like, blockbuster Ghibli action pictures.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 December 2012 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

They're the only two with unambiguously villainous villains.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 24 December 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

iirc The Emperor's New Groove is the one with the documentary that "disney doesn't want you to see" or something...
.. "The Sweatbox" is its title. I've never seen it though. Disney wins again.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 December 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just in time:

#69: How the Grinch Stole Christmas
dir. Chuck Jones, Ben Washam
1966, USA
110 points, 6 votes

film
Chuck Jones interview

Now I just have to wait till the next holiday so that I can resume with the upcoming seasonally themed entries.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh I might have to read the manga in that case. The film of Nausicaa is a wee bit dull IMO.

I made the mistake of reading the manga first, then watching the film -- the manga's scope is absolutely jawdropping, it's on a par with Kirby's New Gods stuff, except Miyazaki had the chance to fully realize it. And for something done in a super-deformed style, IIRC it gets into some heady, nuanced realpolitik material. Or, what Doctor Casino sez.

Am I wrong in remembering that Miyazaki he only started the manga as a way to develop the film, sort of like Arthur C. Clarke and Kubrick re: 2001?

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Huh, I'd never heard that! I know he took several long hiatuses from it - would be interesting to go back and track the manga against those gaps, see if there's major shifts in tone or anything. Certainly there are some characters in whom he seems to gain interest later on, and certain settings/large chunks of plot that are contained in the last sections...but they're also foreshadowed early. (Sorry if this is taking us afield from the thread topic - I just don't have much to say about the Grinch, sadly!)

I know the manga only from the old "Perfect Collection" trade paperbacks in four volumes...I believe it's been rereleased since then, maybe in correct/non-flipped order and possibly with a new translation? There are one or two places that I recall the old one being sort of stilted or just confusing (with regard to the two "emperor-brother" characters).

Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 December 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

No need to apologize to me on not discussing the Grinch -- I just remember when I watched it that I sided whole-heartedly and unironically with him because I thought that the Whos were so ugly that they deserved privation.

Aha, my memory serves! Well, sorta:

According to the "Birth of Studio Ghibli" featurette, Miyazaki only wrote the manga because Studio Ghibli film producer Toshio Suzuki was unable to get funding for a film that was not based on a manga.[2] However, other sources tell a different story: Miyazaki started the manga on the condition that it would never be made into a film. He later agreed to do a fifteen-minute OVA, but Animage editors eventually convinced him to make an entire feature-length film.[3]

Yeah, there's a new 2-volume HC box set with non-inverted pages now -- don't know why I haven't even thought about getting it, considering how much I like it. Ah well, Xmas present to myself!

Anyway, I'll stow the Nausicaa talk, you know, in case the film version or any other Miyazaki ranks... ¬_¬

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Though of course if you have more to say, don't let me stop you! Who knows if/when Nausicaa might reappear...

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 24 December 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Nausicaa manga is SO cluttered and storyboardy, not surprised that it was meant to be a stepping stone to the film.
glad to own it tho'. would like to buy that slipcover box.

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

"The making of how the grinch stole christmas" hosted by Phil Hartman is nowhere to be found online. Wouldn't mind watching that right now.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

re: Nausicaa - "cluttered" i'll give you - there is a definite filling-in of every frame with detail, and some of the action sequences end up sort of hard to follow for that reason. Storyboardy...huh. I'll have to think about that next time I read. Not saying I'd disagree, just that it hasn't ever distracted from my reading experience.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

well i have the smaller tpb ones, the 8x5 1/2 inch versions. Very cramped in that format.

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Same here. For sure. Would love to see them at some huge folio size. I had one issue or so of the singles that Viz put out in the 90s, at standard US comic size - looked pretty good IIRC.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow, i thought i would just watch a couple minutes of that mel blanc video upthread, and i sat there riveted and watched the whole thing. so good. i even teared up a couple times toward the end.

epistantophus, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 20:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Merry holidays, yall.

#68: Ninja Scroll
dir. Yoshiaki Kawajiri
1993, Japan
116 points, 3 votes

trailer (NSFW)

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm watching sweatbox right now (from bittorrent). pretty good! sting is such a wanker.

abanana, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Woah, Ninja Scroll? Really? I admit I've never seen it the whole way through but I associate with, for lack of a better word, ''Manga Man Says...'' anime...stuff that was in a lot of rental places before anime had its bigger breakthrough later in the 90s, and which found an audience mainly on ultraviolence and titillation, like, woah, these Japanese cartoons have gore and swearing!!! But now I'm thinking maybe I misjudged it?

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

You're basically right in your judgement, plus it has a very straightforward and rather cliched story, but it's still entertaining, with great action scenes.

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, there's a new 2-volume HC box set with non-inverted pages now -- don't know why I haven't even thought about getting it, considering how much I like it. Ah well, Xmas present to myself!

I gave up on reading it when it switched from hand-lettering (Orzechowski iirc?) to an early, insensitive, off-the-shelf computer font - does this "restored" version have improved lettering?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

If memory serves, Ninja Scroll didn't make the official nominations list for the poll, so that's an impressive showing for a write-in! Haven't seen it in 15 years, but the borrowed VHS copy from a coworker functioned as a terrific gateway to further anime discoveries, as well as pulpy shit like OTT wire-fu and Riki-Oh. Good times.

Spectrist, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lots of animals coming up in the next batch...

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 08:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

#67: Princess Mononoke
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
1997, USA
116 points, 4 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love the gif; trippy.

Mordy, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mononoke was my first Miyazaki -- didn't love it (the violence in the opening scene stunned me a little bit, maybe I didn't recover), sort of a remix of Nausicaa.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Remix of Nausicaa is exactly how I remember it. Haven't seen this since the US theatrical run. Remember it being great-looking but weirdly cold, with all of the characters feeling strangely distant and wooden. Would be down for watching this one again if just to marvel at the forest ghost stuff and things like that gif above.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

saw it just recently; it holds up fairly well. "marvel" is the right way to enjoy it.

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

#66: Rabbit Fire
dir. Chuck Jones
1951, USA
116 points, 4 votes

film

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

A+ gifs, Leee

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

seconded.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know I've seen the one with that scene, but I couldn't tell you anything else about it. Most of the LT/MM shorts blur together for me.

abanana, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

LT/SS rather (looney tunes/silly symphonies)

abanana, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, i was right the first time. aaargh

abanana, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just watched that one, thanks for the link. It's about like I remember it from when I was a kid, maybe a little slower and less completely nutso? In my mind these things are always Daffy and Bugs just upping the ante continuously, getting closer and closer to berserk but it's a little more evenly paced than that. Not a negative, though, this thing has some great gags.

God, I'd forgotten what a delicious MORON Elmer Fudd was! He wouldn't be funny at all except that he really is simple-minded enough to be fooled by these jokers and their terrible costumes and tricks, it makes him sympathetic in a way that, say, Yosemite Sam never is. Great character.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 December 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't get your hopes too far up with the gifs, chums.

DC, the less-zany-than-I-remember thing happens to me with other WB toons.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Thursday, 27 December 2012 07:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

#65: Porco Rosso
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
1992, Japan
120 points, 4 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Thursday, 27 December 2012 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

the pacing in chuck jones cartoons is always really deliberate -- the 'zany' stuff's more early '40s, when it was more explicitly cartoonish and crazy. there's at least three cartoons with that same basic plot but the one that always reduced me to hysterics was 'you keep out of this! he doesn't HAVE to shoot you now!'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 27 December 2012 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Remember really enjoying Porco Rosso except for extended brutal fist fight in the middle.

ledge, Thursday, 27 December 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

just rewatched porco rosso last week; it's gorgeous and i love it but i ALWAYS fall asleep during the dream sequence

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 December 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Have never seen! Need to keep my eye out for that one.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 December 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

#64: Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel)
dir. Stephen R. Johnson
1986, UK
123 points, 4 votes

film

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Thursday, 27 December 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

#63: Beep, Beep!
dir. Chuck Jones
1952, USA
125 points, 5 votes

film

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mordy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I need to re-read Animal Man.

Next batch: loads of Disney.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Animal Man is great.

I love Roadrunner cartoons. That one in particular feels a little funky; I think it's an early one before the formula got exactly refined, and before some of the iconic bits (like the super-slow fall) were even in place. But they're all basically the same in some sense. The format does have the problem of being fundamentally episodic, with each gag setting up, ending, and then fading to black before another one starts. In that sense, you could basically stick every Roadrunner segment in a computer and tell it to spit out a five-minute cartoon and you'd never know the difference except for changes in animation style and background painting. The cartoons don't really build and they rarely have much momentum or payoff; watching that one, I was surprised that the ending actually bothered to pick back up a thread that was teased much earlier in the episode.

Thing is, if the gags are inventive, the whole thing works. It's just enough of a premise on which to hang whatever bonkers sight gags and surprise pratfalls the writers could think of. You never are in any doubt that the coyote will fail, so they genius is coming up with a way that the latest ACME invention can fail that doesn't occur to you before it happens. Some great ones in that short, especially the one with the boxing-glove. And no matter how many times you see one, a well-made "imaginary train is real" gag will still do it.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 28 December 2012 06:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, the copy/paste nature of Roadrunner shorts is very formulaic, and hasn't aged particularly well for me (and "Beep, Beep" is the only one that I voted for). I also get the vague sense that as a child, I in fact rooted for Wile E. Coyote for some reason (partly because of my love of nature documentaries, which rarely featured actual roadrunners).

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Friday, 28 December 2012 07:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sledgehammer is total classic of course.

ledge, Friday, 28 December 2012 09:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, of course you rooted for Wile E. Coyote! He's the protagonist as well as the underdog. It's just like wanting the rabbit to finally get a bowl of Trix.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

#62: Lilo & Stitch
dir. Dean DeBlois, Chris Sanders
2002, USA
127 points, 4 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Friday, 28 December 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is a great movie. I'm not sure why I saw it in the theater, in my twenties - might have been the only appealing thing playing while I was home for the summer. Anyway, it just charmed the bejeezus out of me. Loved how anarchically destructive and nutso Stitch was, and how convincing the human cast was...Lilo is maybe a little precocious but it played well IIRC. "Oh no, that's from my blue period!!" I remember not liking it as much on the second viewing but I might have just not waited long enough in between.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 28 December 2012 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp For whatever reason "Beep Prepared" was up for an Oscar http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/66470/photos/PHOTO_12462082_66470_18660554_ap.jpg

billstevejim, Friday, 28 December 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp Apologies if the gif is not from the right movie, which I've never seen.

Well, of course you rooted for Wile E. Coyote! He's the protagonist as well as the underdog. It's just like wanting the rabbit to finally get a bowl of Trix.

TBH never thought of him that way! Mostly because there seems to be an unwritten rule that predatory animals typically figure as villains (and the corollary, that herbivorous animals are the protagonists), and the novelty with RR+WEC then would be that this rule gets inverted.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Friday, 28 December 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk that's like considering Tom the protagonist of Tom & Jerry films, or Elmer Fudd.

Lilo & Stitch way way too low, obv.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 28 December 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wait, which one's Tom and which Jerry? Anyway, I considered the mouse the protagonist, at least!

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Friday, 28 December 2012 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think Tom & Jerry and Roadrunner both do kind of interesting things with the protagonist/bad guy formula, but I am not really going to claim expertise here since folks here have voted for single episodes whereas I'd struggle to single out any.

But as a kid I always thought it was pretty evenly spread out whether you felt sorry for Tom or Jerry (though I am a crazy cat lady so I bring my own special variety of insanity bias), and while Wile E. is more obviously a Bad Guy he's more or less the focus of the show while Roadrunner doesn't do anything interesting except dash through making annoying noises and foiling plans - I mean maybe you don't exactly root for WEC, there's nothing about RR as a character to root for - whether you are invested in the coyote or the coyote's comeuppance, he is the character

(Wacky Races does this too, I guess, and probably many other things. anyway, like I said, it's been a while, so this may all be crazy talk. also pls excuse typos as I am too lazy to go and look for my glasses)

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 29 December 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe daffy duck is a character who is more neatly placed right in the middle of the protagonist/antagonist continuum?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 29 December 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

my son just discovered Lilo & Stitch so i have watched it maybe 50 times in the past month. great flick, holds up.

fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Saturday, 29 December 2012 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

#61: Pinocchio
dir. Norman Ferguson, T. Hee
1940, USA
127 points, 5 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Saturday, 29 December 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Probably my favourite Disney.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 29 December 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Only 61?!

(I didn't vote)

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Saturday, 29 December 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I should see that again - I definitely haven't seen it since the 80s, and it's pretty hazy. Same story with Bambi, Snow White, all the classics really.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 December 2012 02:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Warning: it's pretty fucked.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

2nd most terrifying disney movie, only surpassed by fantasia.

billstevejim, Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have to admit, i just got really scared for a second.

billstevejim, Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i rewatched pinocchio a few years ago and found parts of it horrifying. can't really remember which parts though, besides when i was thinking about how much it would suck to turn into a donkey forever just for a little boozing and smoking.

semi-inspired by this thread i watched grave of the fireflies last night, now that's what i call horrifying. but also beautiful. the scene with the fireflies inside their mosquito net especially. in my retroactive vote for this poll i put it top 10 somewhere i guess.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

#60: Transformers: The Movie, The
dir. Nelson Shin
1986, USA
129 points, 4 votes

touch
film (have at it nerds)

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Sunday, 30 December 2012 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked the toys, but I never cared for Marvel's space alien war story.

abanana, Sunday, 30 December 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

what about Furman?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Sunday, 30 December 2012 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've never enjoyed transformers but i'm open to conversion. if i'm going to blaze and watch one transformers flick, is it this one?

Mordy, Sunday, 30 December 2012 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is the only one iirc

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Sunday, 30 December 2012 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Orson Welles' last work!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

#59: Der Fuehrer's Face
dir. Jack Kinney
1942, USA
130 points, 3 votes

film (caution: swastikas everywhere, yellowface)

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

#58: Alice in Wonderland
dir. Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske
1951, USA
130 points, 5 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Sunday, 30 December 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Next three have Japanese flavor.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#57: Millennium Actress
dir. Satoshi Kon
2001, Japan
133 points, 4 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

just watched Alice the other day, such an awesome, visually imaginative movie

some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Millennium Actress is soooooo good, really need to rewatch that soon. sad that Dreaming Machine might never see the light of day though.

ばかザッピ (zappi), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

How does MA compare with Paprika (the lone Satoshi Kon I've seen)?

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

#56: Grave of the Fireflies
dir. Isao Takahata
1988, Japan
133 points, 4 votes

film

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

#55: Lion King, The
dir. Roger Allers, Rob Minkoff
1994, USA
137 points, 4 votes

trailer

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxpost
Paprika is hands down better visually, Millennium Actress though for me was a much better story.

ばかザッピ (zappi), Monday, 31 December 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lion King placing higher than Pinocchio is straight up travesty.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 31 December 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I watched Lion King on a plane last year and I don't think it's held up that well. The animation still looks great, and there's some good songs, but the basic plot is hackneyed and IMO a bit rushed in the key places - Simba's growing-up has to happen basically all at once. Plus I think all the blood-as-destiny "true king" type stuff is on the dicey side, and Timon and Pumbaa are sort of the harbingers of all Dreamworksian fart joke animation.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

the basic plot is Hamlet iirc but on the other hand I don't really buy it

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Monday, 31 December 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I definitely don't think it's fair to blame the crimes of Dreamworks Animation on Timon & Pumbaa though!

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Monday, 31 December 2012 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't get why all the animals work for the lions

Mordy, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's definitely Kimba + Hamlet except instead of tragic dithering, Hamlet's just kind of a sulky responsibility-shirking teen...who then suddenly isn't, and saves the day! Guilt trip angle from his childhood buddy turned sweetheart is okay as far as it goes but I still feel like there's a missing step on his journey. And yeah, the politics bug me.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

the politics are fucked up on several levels

Chris S, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Glad to see Millennium Actress and hope it isn't the last Kon. Personally I found Paprika his weakest film, it felt too much like a "typical anime" despite the amazing visuals.

Duane Barry, Monday, 31 December 2012 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

MA was good but perfect blue was better

乒乓, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 05:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Next five are all Anglophone and from five different directors.

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I watched Lion King on a plane last year and I don't think it's held up that well. The animation still looks great, and there's some good songs, but the basic plot is hackneyed and IMO a bit rushed in the key places - Simba's growing-up has to happen basically all at once. Plus I think all the blood-as-destiny "true king" type stuff is on the dicey side, and Timon and Pumbaa are sort of the harbingers of all Dreamworksian fart joke animation.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, December 31, 2012 4:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's lol that every other movie i'm like "i just watched this with my kid" but i did and you are otm, has aged pretty poorly. don't even really care for the animation that much tbh.

some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't think you'll be watching this next one with your kid any time soon:

#54: Beavis and Butthead Do America
dir. Mike Judge, Mike de Seve, Yvette Kaplan, Brian Mulroney
1996, USA
138 points, 5 votes

clip

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

true. wtf is wrong w/ people who voted for this, movie is not a fraction as good as any episode of B&B, this isn't the South Park movie or somethin

some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

#53: Rabbit of Seville, The
dir. Chuck Jones
1950, USA
139 points, 5 votes

film

Only Built For Cuban Linux (Leee), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

#52: Close Shave, A (Wallace and Gromit)
dir. Nick Park
1995, UK
140 points, 5 votes

review

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

#51: It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
dir. Bill Melendez
1966, USA
141 points, 4 votes

clip

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

#50: Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
dir. Eric Radomski, Bruce W. Timm
1993, USA
142 points, 4 votes

clip

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Okay, this is playing in NYC for free and looks abundantly weird: a korean take on finding nemo where all the fish are in concentration camps and eaten

http://www.koreanculture.org/?document_srl=37770

"gesture of hope that sets you free"

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 08:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lion King placing higher than Pinocchio is straight up travesty.

― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, December 31, 2012 9:27 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

i didn't vote but yeah, jesus christ. I consider Pinocchio to be the greatest Disney movie ever by a considerable distance though

Number None, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Okay, goddamn: i'm probably gonna have to see Padak: Sushi Apocalypse.
This is the video to the movie's original theme, "Nightmare" by Kim Hyeon-Ji
http://www.hancinema.net/video.php?table=film&id=29240

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hmm, Rabbit of Seville was my #1... did my ballot not get counted? I'll still watch the countdown, but will have to do my own tallying where everything cool moves up, like, twenty points.

Spectrist, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't speak for silby, but I reckon it was counted; he doesn't list the number of first place votes, if that's your concern.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Phantasm one of the best Timm offerings imo, action set pieces are awesome, unexpectedly good romance angle, best motion adaptation of origin that has added bonus of having nothing to do with Year One. Plus, typically great Joker involvement. Operatic. May be my favorite Batfilm, full stop.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

#49: Waltz With Bashir
dir. Ari Folman
2008, Israel
144 points, 5 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 05:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't remember if i voted for waltz w/ bashir, but if i forgot it was a huge oversight. such an intense film.

Mordy, Friday, 4 January 2013 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess this is also a good place to mention that the rabbi's cat is really really good and would've been way up on my ballot if i had seen it before this poll

Mordy, Friday, 4 January 2013 05:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

#48: Charlotte's Web
dir. Charles A. Nichols, Iwao Takamoto
1973, USA
144 points, 5 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 05:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

#47: Grand Day Out (Wallace and Gromit)
dir. Nick Park
1989, UK
145 points, 5 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 05:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

#46: Your Face
dir. Bill Plympton
1987, USA
148 points, 4 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 05:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

quite interesting. i must check out his other works.

abanana, Friday, 4 January 2013 07:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

plympton is awesome, load up

jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

#45: Wizard of Speed and Time, The
dir. Mike Jittlov
USA, 1979
151 points, 6 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

#44: Dumbo
dir. Samuel Armstrong, Norman Ferguson, Wilfred Jackson, Jack Kinney, Bill Roberts, Ben Sharpsteen, John Elliotte
1941, USA
156 points, 5 votes

pink elephants

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

#43: Scanner Darkly, A
dir. Richard Linklater
2006, USA
158 points, 6 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

#42: Waking Life
dir. Richard Linklater
2001, USA
160 points, 5 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#41: Monsters, Inc.
dir. Pete Docter, David Silverman
2001, USA
162 points, 6 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

High placing for WoS&T shows what a little repping in the pre-threads will do.

emil.y, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

#44: Dumbo

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Eric OTM. My favorite classic Disney.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

High placing for WoS&T shows what a little repping in the pre-threads will do.

― emil.y, Friday, January 4, 2013 11:35 AM (5 minutes ago)

*struts a bit, in my mind*

Unclean, Unshaven (WilliamC), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

waking life really? *pukes all over the thread*

乒乓, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

again, Dumbo above Pinocchio is insane. Came out a year after and feels like a b team effort

Number None, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's not as good as Pinocchio, but it's a perfectly formed little film.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like dumbo a lot more than pinnochio.

*shrugs*

"reading specialist" (Z S), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dumbo is the single greatest Disney film ever, crows aside (or maybe not even aside; they seem to embody a certain running constant of -ism under Disney's surface).

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd rather watch Dumbo. The only terrifying part is the drunk-sequence.

billstevejim, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't believe those Linklater films placed that high. Crazy shit.

billstevejim, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Waking Life was pretty cool to see as a college freshman or whatever, can't imagine it holding up at all. Some cool bits in the animation I guess? A Scanner Darkly was weeeeeak IMO, although I have to say I can't really remember anything about what happens in it, just left the theater thinking "meh."

Monsters, Inc., on the other hand, is just lovely.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

wizard of speed is dope, never seen it

jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

effects are amazing - running past the train wtf ftw - song is lame tho

ledge, Saturday, 5 January 2013 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

bill plympton is so awesome -- did y'all see the simpsons couch gag he animated last year!?

some dude, Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

sweet!

ledge, Saturday, 5 January 2013 09:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

so happy Your Face is in this list!

piscesx, Saturday, 5 January 2013 15:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

#40: Porky in Wackyland
dir. Robert Clampett
1938, USA
166 points, 7 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

bill plympton is so awesome -- did y'all see the simpsons couch gag he animated last year!?

Best Simpsons-related thing in what, 8 years?

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

#39: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
1984, Japan
170 points, 5 votes

trailer (best ever, apparently)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Now we can resume are previous Nausicaa talk! (The boxset manga arrived this week, btw. It's hueg.)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nausicaa that high? Remind me what other Miyazaki have placed, I'm sure there've been some superior ones.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

97: Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro
71: Laputa: Castle in the Sky
67: Princess Mononoke
65: Porco Rosso
39: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind

seems pretty standard, with Spirited Away & Totoro (& maybe Kiki) still to place?

ばかザッピ (zappi), Saturday, 5 January 2013 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like all those other films better than Nausicaa.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 5 January 2013 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

(mostly agree w/ chap)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

#38: Ghost in the Shell
dir. Mamoru Oshii
1995, Japan
173 points, 6 votes

clip

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 5 January 2013 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

#37: Watership Down
dir. Martin Rosen
1978, UK
179 points, 5 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

#36: Toy Story 3
dir. Lee Unkrich
2010, USA
188 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Watership Down is way too low.

emil.y, Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is it the one where humans have all killed each other in war, leaving stewardship of the planet to a bunch of anthropomorphized critters?

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha, not quite, no.

emil.y, Sunday, 6 January 2013 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's "Peace on Earth". http://youtu.be/d8stkqssLYc

abanana, Sunday, 6 January 2013 02:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

#35: Ratatoullie
dir. Brad Bird, Jan Pinkava
2007, USA
188 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

#34: Finding Nemo
dir. Andrew Stanton, Lee Unkrich
2003, USA
193 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

That post-apocalyptic toon where the owl reads the Bible has been bugging me for years.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I need to rewatch gohst in the shell

乒乓, Monday, 7 January 2013 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love Ghost in the Shell, though first time I watched it I hated it. Gets better with each rewatch. As far as "conventional" anime canon (i.e. action/SF), probably my favorite.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

#33: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
dir. William Cottrell, David Hand, Wilfred Jackson, Larry Morey, Perce Pearce, Ben Sharpsteen
1937, USA
199 points, 6 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

#32: Creature Comforts
dir. Nick Park
UK, 1989
199 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

#31: Fantastic Mr. Fox
dir. Wes Anderson
2009, USA
205 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 7 January 2013 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Creature Comforts YES. Ratatouille NO. Ok maybe watching it in the back of a car sandwiched between two toddlers wasn't the best environment but the 'rat driving chef by pulling his hair' schtick didn't really work for me, 'restaurant owner sacrificing reputation for ready meal millions' plot was lame, 'main character turns out by quirk of fate to be heir to restaurant' made me rmde. Didn't even see the end of the film, didn't care. Ghost in the Shell I saw not so long ago but can't remember what I thought of it, which probably means I didn't think too much of it.

ledge, Monday, 7 January 2013 09:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Creature Comforts is the best thing Nick Park ever did imo.

ledge, Monday, 7 January 2013 09:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is that not a tie for #33?

This reads a bit like a superposition of different polls (Classic Disney / Modern Disney / Pixar / "proper" films that are animated / Worker & Parasite), but even within that WTF is Ratatouille doing within 5 points of Finding Nemo?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 7 January 2013 09:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Worker & Parasite

kudos.

Nausicaa is less cloyingly childish than Laputa but it's hard to care too much about the Ohmu. Little fox-squirrel is adorable though.

ledge, Monday, 7 January 2013 09:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

ledge = heartless restaurant reviewer (IE secret hero of the film) is served dish of modern nouvelle cuisine ratatouille which causes him to remember his time as a child in the countryside and this Proustian rush saves everything except there's some more bullshit then the end.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 7 January 2013 09:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

#30: Alice
dir. Jan Svankmajer
1988, Czechoslovakia
207 points, 7 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ratatouille rules, revisionist contrarians drool!

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

#29: Secret of NIMH, The
dir. Don Bluth
1982, USA
208 points, 6 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

#28: Kiki's Delivery Service
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
1989, Japan
209 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

#27: Robin Hood Daffy
dir. Chuck Jones
1958, USA
209 points, 7 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

#26: Perfect Blue
dir. Satoshi Kon
1997, Japan
227 points, 6 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ratatouille rules, revisionist contrarians drool!

Here, here.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Next 3 surprisingly Eurocentric, followed by 2 Yankee usual suspects (to be posted tomorrow).

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

perfect blue is so perfect

乒乓, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lol pun.

Just found out that SPOILER Satoshi Kon died a few years back. ;_; RIP

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kon was a genius, died too soon

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ah, good to see some Svankmajer. Not a big fan of Kiki, but mainly because it is so much *for children* in comparison to other Miyazaki works - this doesn't mean it's a bad film, just not for me. Perfect Blue I voted for and loved when I saw it but it could benefit from a re-watch to bump my memory. Sad about Satoshi Kon, Paprika was also on my ballot.

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah looks like paprika is going to place pretty highly? deservedly so imo

乒乓, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not saying it's no good, I'm saying it's not within 5 points of Finding Nemo.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

people who liked Kon films should really check out his TV series Paranoia Agent, amazing stuff.
i guess there are not going to be any Makoto Shinkai or Mamoru Hosoda films in the top 100, i would have voted for some if i had noticed this poll in time :(

ばかザッピ (zappi), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

So happy to see Perfect Blue here, and at a good position too. I voted it pretty high in my horror poll, and it got absolutely nowhere. It's probably my favourite Kon work, perhaps simply because the (psychological thriller) genre is most up my alley. Kon had so much more to do - his death still stings like crazy.

Secret of NIMH is an old fave, and Kiki's Delivery Service was the first Ghibli film I watched with my niece (needless to say, she insisted on seeing more over the next few weeks).

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Paranoia Agent opening = classic.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

'Alice is a fantastic, in the literal sense, piece of work and deservedly placed high. The narration though nearly derails the work. I understand there's some fan-edits which excises a lot of the 'said thhe Mad Hatter', although I'd love to be some purist backing the director's vision I can't help but think that Svankmajer got that wrong.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like the "said the Mad Hatter" stuff

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kiki's Delivery Service is my favorite Ghibli and one of my favorite films period. I really think it's just about perfect. Even the way the hairs on the brooms stick out is dead-on.

Haven't seen Nemo or Ratatouille, have heard good things about both, somewhat more interested in the latter as Nemo's stills seem to kinda all look the same - underwater, bright-colored fish. Yeah, dunno. Haven't seen NIMH since I was a kid, read the book once as an adult though and was really impressed with how much cool stuff was going on in there.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

have never really understood the respect for 'nimh' -- it obv stands out in bluth's otherwise awful career but it's pretty weak compared to the book imo. we watched it in fifth grade right after reading the novel and the contrast was pretty strong even for kids.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

woah woah woah bluth's otherwise awful career??? au contraire!

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've never read the book but I watched NIMH so many times as a kid

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

his best work was his video games imho

the book is absolutely superior to the movie

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I have lived in this tree, in this same hollow," the owl said, "for more years than anyone can remember. But now, when the wind blows hard in winter and rocks the forest, I sit here in the dark, and from deep down in the bole, down near the roots, I hear a new sound. It is the sound of strands of wood creaking in the cold and snapping one by one. The limbs are falling; the tree is old, and it is dying. Yet I cannot bring myself, after so many years, to leave, to find a new home and move into it, perhaps to fight for it. I, too, have grown old. One of these days, one of these years, the tree will fall, and when it does, if I am still alive, I will fall with it."

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty sure I have seen the NIMH movie, but remember nothing about it. The books were great, though.

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

injection of mysticism in the movie is kind of annoying/unnecessary

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I wrote off ever watching it for that reason. Loved the decidedly unmystical book, sometimes wonder if I should retread it, but you can never go back.

heartless restaurant reviewer (ledge), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

it runs almost entirely counter to the main thrust of the narrative, which is WHOAH SCIENCE

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reread, I don't tread on books. Xp exactly!

heartless restaurant reviewer (ledge), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love discussion picking up, pouring 40 for silby.

Andrew, you're saying that Nemo is significantly better than Rat? If only for the Proustian rush at the end, Ratatouille ranks ahead of Nemo. Brought such a huge surge of emotion to me when I watched it, and I'm the exact opposite of a foodie.

Doctor Casino, I am stunned that you haven't seen the last two ranking Pixar films. :o

Will put Paranoia Agent onto my queue.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Realized I won't be able to post tomorrow...

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

#25: Yellow Submarine, The
dir. George Dunning
1968, UK
230 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

#24: Persepolis
dir. Vincent Paronnaud, Marjane Satrapi
2007, France
236 points, 8 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#23: Fantastic Planet
dir. René Laloux
1973, France
239 points, 6 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#22: Charlie Brown Christmas, A
dir. Bill Melendez
1965, USA
243 points, 8 votes

meaning of Christmas

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

#21: Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century
dir. Chuck Jones
1953, USA
248 points, 9 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Persepolis is perfectly nice, but... huh?

Magic Miike (R Baez), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's all folks for now, how do y'all want the top 20 unveiling to go?

Xp agreed.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Really well! Good luck!

Z S, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

paranoia agent is awesome!!

乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would like the top 20 to be done via a flipbook

乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm still alive, Leee but yr pour is appreciated

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Persepolis is crap wtf people

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 03:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

is the animation crappy? or the acting? thought the books were pretty good!

Z S, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 03:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw Persepolis, but I can't remember anything about it other than that the grandmother put flower petals next to her tits for effect.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Loved the Persepolis comic, never got around to the movie, just seemed like it'd be the filmed version of what I read, or does it do anything particular to surpass that? Kind of surprised it would rank above Snow White and all these other things.

Yellow Submarine is kind of a lumpy, awkwardly-flowing film but there is some great imagination in it and cool animation when it's not just the weird too-smooth rotoscoped human movements. And obviously, great music.

Fantastic Planet looks awesome! Will throw that on the to-do list.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 04:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

kiki's "fly" = walter white's "run"

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 05:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

also persepolis is fatuous, pretty meh

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 05:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's no rabbi's cat

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 05:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wouldn't call Persepolis bad -- it's a good adaptation of the comic, though it does add a pretty large event from Satrapi's life that I believe she elides in the comic, apart from which, it's a good film.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 05:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

'duck dodgers' was my no. 1. 'charlie brown xmas' was no. 3 i think -- still awkward, sad, and moving after all these years.

'persepolis' is just fine, it made my list pretty easily.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 06:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

i saw 'fantastic planet' for the first time with abbottt and viceroy last year and it blew me away. pretty much every frame of it is gorgeous and kind of terrifying.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm so glad Mind Game was nominated! I didn't notice the threads in time to vote, but I would have placed it very high.

Dan I., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 07:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not that I'm expecting to see it in the remaining list. Will you post the runner-up stats at the end?

Dan I., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 07:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can probably do that yeah

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 07:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

if mind game doens't place I am going to burn this whole thred down

乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 13:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

i saw fantastic planet on abbbbotttt's suggestion and it would have topped my ballot had i voted (i don't know enough about animation to vote). i also picked up an original LP of the soundtrack a few months ago. score!

Z S, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, the soundtrack is amazing. I *still* haven't managed to see the whole thing, though.

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i went to this show in philly once and they were projecting fantastic planet onto the wall of the warehouse it was p trippy

乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha, I went to a show in Nottingham where they were doing that too. Pretty much how I've seen most of the bits of it that I have.

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

#20: Coraline
dir. Henry Selick
2009, USA
258 points, 8 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

#19: Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
dir. Robert Zemeckis
1988, USA
260 points, 8 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

#18: Fantasia
dir. James Algar, Samuel Armstrong, Ford Beebe Jr., Norman Ferguson, Jim Handley, T. Hee, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske, Bill Roberts, Paul Satterfield, Ben Sharpsteen
1940, USA
262 points, 9 votes

le sacre du printemps

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

#17: Toy Story
dir. John Lasseter
1999, USA
265 points, 9 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

#16: Nightmare Before Christmas, The
dir. Henry Selick
1993, USA
275 points, 12 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Feel like now is the time to mention that if I were voting all over again, ParaNorman would get lots of points.

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Laika took their Coraline experience and made ParaNorman and it was just completely stellar technically. The art direction, stop-motion, VFX, and even the 3D were just world fucking class. And the plot was killer and surprisingly dark and the characters were all delightful.

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Loved it, though the climax could have used less telling and more showing. Like I got what was happening a good three minutes before Norman had finished explaining it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 10 January 2013 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

nightmare before christmas is so boss

乒乓, Thursday, 10 January 2013 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Overrated. Coraline is better IMO.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 10 January 2013 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought the plot of ParaNorman was pretty much the weakest part, the 'twist' was pretty clear from early on once you start treating it as the Tim Burton film it clearly is.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 January 2013 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

well I guess it wasn't the plotting per se that impressed me as the themes the plot touched on, especially the parallel drawn between Norman's issues and mental illness/LD.

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

also I went in sort of expecting the movie to be lots of wandering around talking to theme-park ghosts of various flavors (civil war, sad teen, amelia earhart) so that it had a much more interesting story to tell (not just a zany adventure w/ ghosts) was pleasing to me

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Huh, haven't seen any of these Selick films.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just want to say that the Toy Story screenshot is my favorite.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 05:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

One more random note: Ghost in the Shell is probably the only anime in which I don't feel weird/slumming settling with the English dub (possibly because this is one of the first animes I ever watched).

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Should probably watch Coraline and, apparently, ParaNorman. Roger Rabbit I'm guessing remains great fun. Toy Story the weakest of the franchise - Sid is an actively uncompelling villain - and most of its charm comes from the fact that it's your introduction to all of the frankly wonderful characters, not least the claw game aliens <3 <3 <3

heartless restaurant reviewer (ledge), Friday, 11 January 2013 09:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ghost in the Shell is probably the only anime in which I don't feel weird/slumming settling with the English dub

Anime is one thing I quite like watching dubbed, subtitles can distract from the pretty pictures a bit.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 11 January 2013 12:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm the complete opposite, mainly due to how poor the dubs are though

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 11 January 2013 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Zappi otm.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

#15: One Froggy Evening
dir. Chuck Jones
1955, USA
291 points, 8 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

#14: Toy Story 2
dir. John Lasseter, Ash Brannon, Lee Unkrich
1999, USA
292 points, 10 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

#13: Paprika
dir. Satoshi Kon
2006, Japan
299 points, 7 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

#12: South Park
dir. Trey Parker
1999, USA
325 points, 11 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

#11: Wrong Trousers, The
dir. Nick Park
1993, UK
329 points, 8 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sorry, Andrew.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thoughts on #15-11? Guesses at Top 10?

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gaaaaaaaal

emil.y, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I might be the only one who likes W&G's feature length movie better than any of their shorts.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Top 10 in no particular order.

Bambi
Wall-E
Up
Incredibles
Wallace and Gromit in the Were-rabbit
Howl's Moving Castle
Team America
Corpse Bride
Beauty and the Beast
Somthing obvious I'm missing

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha uh team america really

trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Spirited Away probably #1

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

was that even nominated? were muppets movies fair game too? xp

trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually I'd expect Corpse Bride and Beauty and the Beast to place by now, probably something more leftfield like Antz or Cowboy Bebop. Would be surprised to see Team America in top 10, but more so not making top 100.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Those puppet things weren't nominated, were they? I certainly fucking hope not! (speaking as a lurking nonvoter)

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

snow white in top 10 too i'm sure

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aladdin has to have made it right?

contrarian, zing thyself (cajunsunday), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Snow White was #33. Not sure if 'Team America' was nominated now. Just realised that #1 is going to be 'Iron Giant'. 'Triplets of Belleville' must have a shout at the top 10 too.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

oops, missed snow white placing already

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

some unsurprising recency bias in these results, at least when looking at rank order.

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Friday, 11 January 2013 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Wrong Trousers really is wonderful

Number None, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually #14 #12 and #11 are all films I expected to see in the top 10!

I actually think Toy Story 2 might be the fourth-placed Pixar film, which is really fucked up.

Totoro, Spirited Away, Akira to come surely.

Aladdin & Beauty and the Beast are the remaining Disney princesses, I have no reading on the whole genre, so I don't know if it'd be more of a travesty to appear this much higher than the others, or not at all.

Iron Giant maybe, Belleville certainly not.

Aaand a few shorts? I will speculate What's Opera Doc? and Duck Amuck, because that's what I voted for.

Write in vote for Bully For Bugs at #1 :)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Good predictions. Also prolly Princess mononoke

billstevejim, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mononoke's already in at #67

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Paprika is a visual feast, but plotwise I think it's Kon's weakest movie by a good margin. The story and dialogue feel pedantic and under-developed, so it feels too much like a "typical" anime movie.

Everything since 20 has been great

Duane Barry, Friday, 11 January 2013 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Paprika is based on a novel - unfortunately it isn't all that good plot- and character-wise either

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 11 January 2013 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

While taking care of my nephews, I've seen The Wrong Trousers 2,743 times. They really have good taste.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Unusual for ILX polls, I have seen 16 of the top 20, and all of the top 10.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, unveiling 2 a day, starting Monday unless I receive strenuous objections.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dang it, realized I messed up the links to Paprika, which can be found in full on YouTube.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Paprika links I meant to include:
trailer
film (warning: English dub)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Saturday, 12 January 2013 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

(not the real trailer unfortunately - someone recutting the film to the Inception trailer audio)

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 12 January 2013 21:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha ugh

乒乓, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

I agree that paprika's plot/characters are not as strong as other kon work, but the visuals

乒乓, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

also my favorite susumu hirasawa soundtrack by a large margin

乒乓, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

1080p trailer

乒乓, Sunday, 13 January 2013 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

That does look pretty cool!

I know I've seen Millenium Actress, but up until seeing it in the countdown here I had no memory of doing so, and it remains a very faint and hazy sense of deja vu. When did I see it? Why? What was it about? I have only the faintest notions. There's something kind of off-putting, to me, about Kon's (or Studio Madhouse's?) animation style... the character designs have this sort of wooden, distant quality. It's maybe an intentional effect, fitting the themes of the story, or maybe they're going for realism and my eyes, accustomed to very stylized anime, don't really process it as such?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 14 January 2013 03:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#10: Incredibles, The
dir. Brad Bird
2004, USA
335 points, 10 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 14 January 2013 06:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

(They are apparently stunned at the placing.)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 14 January 2013 06:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

#9: My Neighbor Totoro
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
1988, Japan
344 points, 10 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Monday, 14 January 2013 06:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

while i accept these results, i also recognize in reality that "the incredibles" is not actually one of the 10 best animated films

billstevejim, Monday, 14 January 2013 09:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

catbus otm

catbus gif also otm

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 14 January 2013 10:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

yay catbus

oh no! sirap notlih vs. ognir rrats FITE!! OH NO!!! (Eisbaer), Monday, 14 January 2013 12:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know I've seen Millenium Actress, but up until seeing it in the countdown here I had no memory of doing so, and it remains a very faint and hazy sense of deja vu. When did I see it? Why? What was it about? I have only the faintest notions. There's something kind of off-putting, to me, about Kon's (or Studio Madhouse's?) animation style... the character designs have this sort of wooden, distant quality. It's maybe an intentional effect, fitting the themes of the story, or maybe they're going for realism and my eyes, accustomed to very stylized anime, don't really process it as such?

― Doctor Casino, Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fits in pretty well with the theme of the movie probably, or at least in the general themes of satoshi kon? haha

;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 12:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

CATBUS

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2013 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

CATBUS my #9

heartless restaurant reviewer (ledge), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maybe MNT should just be renamed CATBUS? It seems to be what's swinging it. Though Totoro itself is also cool, obv.

emil.y, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also:

while i accept these results, i also recognize in reality that "the incredibles" is not actually one of the 10 best animated films

― billstevejim, Monday, January 14, 2013 9:00 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM.

emil.y, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

totoro is a top five alltime film for me, animated or not

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

millennium actress is really good & sorta uniquely lyrical i think?, i am maybe not qualified to say 'uniquely' because i am not great with japanese film or with modern animated cinema, but i feel like it imbues some fairly standard settings & scenarios with a weird emotional pitch. which you can say about miyazaki too, right. like kiki's delivery service is such a reassuringly depression-permeated kids movie.

toroto is so lovely.

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

#8: Iron Giant, The
dir. Brad Bird
1999, USA
344 points, 10 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

So good.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love that film.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, go Brad Bird for having all three of his (animated) films place!

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

#7: Akira
dir. Katsuhiro Otomo
1988, Japan
363 points, 10 votes

TETSUOOOOOOOOO (trailer)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Really need to see this film, huh?

emil.y, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think so, but I've only seen it once, in HS.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually in school? I wouldn't have thought that an ideal environment tbh, there's a lot of lovely (and eerie) quiet moments in the film.

Disclaimer: I have never watched a film in school, and would assume that it gets a little rowdy, particularly if there's arm-disintegration and laser bikes.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

On the other hand I've never seen The Iron Giant, so wtf do I know about anything.

Common theme of these films: I expected them a lot higher.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Iron Giant is amazing thru and thru (SUPERMAN)
Akira is still great animation and among the all time great soundtracks but the story is rushed and a lil boring

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Iron Giant has one of the best endings of anything ever

Number None, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

akira is too low ;_;

乒乓, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

the story is rushed and a lil boring

― an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:40 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the manga is apparently ~2000 pages so

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

need to see Akira myself.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

the manga is apparently ~2000 pages so

― (panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby)

Yeah, I've read it. It has way more scope and detail, and the big event at the climax of the movie occurs about halfway through. Highly recommended.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd say it's the best manga I've ever read, but thinking about it it's the only one I've read all of the way through.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm very familiar with akira as manga; i own about eighty percent of it! I like otomo but the plot is harried and the ideas are a bit cliche by now.

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

the second half of the film Akira is a mess plotwise, have always meant to read the manga but never managed to get round to it (its always been hella expensive!)

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

The manga is great, especially with the freqeuent 70+ page climaxes. Extraordinarily different from the movie.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Akira manga confounded me. Saw the film as a HSer for clarity sake.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

toy scene in akira remains one of the scariest scenes of all time.

乒乓, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

among the all time great soundtracks

This can't be emphasised enough.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 08:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

co-sign

ledge, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 09:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

#6: Triplets of Belleville, The
dir. Sylvain Chomet
2003, France
374 points, 11 votes


trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 17 January 2013 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

#5: Up
dir. Pete Docter, Bob Peterson
2009, USA
402 points, 13 votes

trailer

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 17 January 2013 06:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love Up, but it ranking higher than either of the Brad Bird's is weird.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 January 2013 06:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Agreed times a million.

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 17 January 2013 06:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Belleville is idk, v impressive stylistically but I didn't really get on with the characters. Champion is just a cipher and the triplets are frankly terrifying.

ledge, Thursday, 17 January 2013 09:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Am more than happy with Up ranking above Ratatouille and The Incredibles.

ledge, Thursday, 17 January 2013 09:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Myself also, it just seems odd that any of them are ranking above either of the Toy Storys.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tho this is sensible as a dictionary compared with what lurks in the remaining 4 - or Belleville above Akira for that matter!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I didn't know Iron Giant was supposed to be good. I'll have to check it out.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Very pleased to see Triplets of Belleville so high. I've used that "vacuum cleaner" jam in techno and house DJ sets before, it's a real trip.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 17 January 2013 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Up is clearly miles better than Ratatouille, and may be better than Incredibles, I can't decide on that one.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I find that Up has increasing returns with every viewing. I like ...Belleville, but can't quite square it being in the top 10 when The Illusionist was back at #90, I far prefer that film.

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

(oh, and great work on the poll and results thread, one for the ages this and full of treasures)

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Incredibles is very "watchy", but it's not that good.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 17 January 2013 11:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

hated UP so much when I watched it, can't believe it placed this high

乒乓, Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Really want to watch Akira anew some day -- loved it as a teenager, when this whole anime thing was pretty new to me. This was in the mid-90s, in a small town in Norway, where this stuff wasn't really distributed, so this stuff was almost mythical to us -- occasionally someone would come back from Oslo bearing the gift of a tape or two of some Manga release. The highlights as I recall it were _Akira_ and _Ghost in the Shell_. Also watched _Fist of the North Star_ a bunch of times, but I didn't exactly like it. _Wings of Honneamise_ bored the hell out of me -- clearly it needed more exploding heads -- but I'm kinda curious to see it again now.

Come to think of it, I've hardly seen any of the Disney cartoons that didn't come out in my lifetime. Have some vague memories of having seen _Pinocchio_ at a birthday party and being REALLY disturbed by the donkey stuff. But I might just have read one of the childrens book adaptations of the movie. (Definitely didn't read the -original- book)

_Triplets of Belleville_ is a movie I'm kinda wondering if I disliked so much simply because of the enthusiasm with which it was recommended. I mostly remember finding the drawings really ugly. Oh, and the goddamn voodookaka bullshit songs.

Do we have a thread about early non-cartoon animations? I plan to spend some evening on Youtube and Archive.org watching shit like the 1912 The Cameraman’s Revenge. Figure I should put together a little playlist first.

Really enjoying the thread btw, though I didn't take any part in the voting. So far you've inspired me to order _Paprika_ and the first English omnibus of the Akira comics at the library; vaguely recall digging Katushiro Otomo's _Domu: A Child's Dream_ back in the days.

Øystein, Thursday, 17 January 2013 14:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wasn't a huge fan of Belleville, but I loved that the dog was tricked into paddling across the Atlantic with a piece of caramel, and was still chewing on it when they arrived on shore in America.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 14:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Belleville really got to me as a tear-jerker; as I've said on ILX before, I lost my mother about a year before seeing it, and the tireless selfless love of the mother character just got to me. I also remember finding the dog really charming, and I don't have any general affection for dogs to support that. Fourth-best cartoon of all time, no, but I can see how it racked up a bunch of votes.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

I loved Belleville. Perhaps not the fourth best animation of all time, but hey, The Incredibles is DEFINITELY NOT top ten of all time, this isn't a definitive list, it's what ilxors who could be bothered to vote did in fact vote for.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, I caught Up on telly over Christmas, and I did actually get a little weepy at the start. Still hate that style of animation, though, and the rest of the film wasn't any great shakes (not terrible, though; I certainly didn't balk at the talking dogs or anything).

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked Belleville well enough but I didn't find it half as moving as the Illusionist

qbert yuiop (NickB), Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I haven't seen that, though, so I'm unlikely to be dock marks from a film I have seen and liked in favour of a film I haven't seen.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

be

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

that would indeed be craqueurs

qbert yuiop (NickB), Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

will howl's moving castle place? i like it as much as spirited away.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are you serious, dog? Even without knowing the results, it's pretty clearly lesser Miyazaki.

Anyway...

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

#4: Duck Amuck
dir. Chuck Jones
1953, USA
439 points, 11 votes

film

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

#3: What's Opera, Doc?
dir. Chuck Jones
1957, USA
448 points, 14 votes

film
higher res film (US-only?)

sunn o))) dude (Leee), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Triplets of Belleville is the first since #20 Coraline that I haven't seen and the first since #45 The Wizard of Speed and Time that I haven't even heard of. I guess I was living in some cultural black hole in 2003. And for every mention of it I should surely have come across since...

Bill Goldberg Variations (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Triplets of Belleville is great but not top 10 material imo.
Duck Amuck & What's Opera, Doc? however i can get 100% behind. good job!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

chuck jones did fantastically in this poll

Mordy, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

It kind of disappeared (until the Illusionist came along), why is why some of us are a little surprised to see it that high.

v happy with the current two, really second guessing myself about the #2 slot (assuming Spirited Away takes #1)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

All of Chuck Jones' (apart from 8-Ball Bunny) are written by Michael Maltese as well, though I confess I don't know the system well enough to know if he is a hyper-genius, or just the guy who got his name on the credits for the work of a team.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Still kicking myself for not pushing harder to get Svankmajer's Faust accepted as a nomination, tbh. It's my favourite of his, and easily as animated as Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and by all rights should be making an appearance around now in a true and correct poll.

will howl's moving castle place? i like it as much as spirited away.

Are you serious, dog? Even without knowing the results, it's pretty clearly lesser Miyazaki.

Really? It's much much better than Kiki, which placed. And I'd say it's way better than Totoro in pacing and story, though Totoro has the edge in CATBUS level characters.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rewatching "What's Opera, Doc?" right now for the first time in, I dunno, a decade. Discovering all the dialogue is tattooed on my soul.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not a huge fan of Chuck Jones (heresy, I know), but both of those are classics, and I'm kind of pleased that old-school comic animation has placed so high. I am disappointed that not much of the early/experimental/arty stuff has placed throughout the poll, though.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think Totoro's unconventional pacing (and the effect this has on the story) is one of the things that its fans really love about it!

I would like to have a view on Howl more nuanced than "Go cry, emo kid", but to be honest that pretty much covers it.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

so Wall-E is going to be No. 1 then. Hmmmm

Number None, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think Totoro's unconventional pacing (and the effect this has on the story) is one of the things that its fans really love about it!

Haha, really? I guess I'm not that steeped in the critical discourse around this stuff. It is probably because I am horrendously mean and evil, but I find "kids with ailing parent find refuge in a magical world" to be a terribly clichéd and trite storyline, so the pacing of Totoro doesn't really do it any favours for me. Still... CATBUS.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

A hi-quality Duck Amuck on Vimeo.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kiki is a million times better than Howl!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

cool, so mind game in the top 2, psyched!

乒乓, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean I get that Howl has its fans, but I really remember the latter as being kind of a mess, with inscrutable characterization, an incoherent conclusion, and too much striving for the "overflowing of magical wonders" that Spirited Away made look easy. I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it okay while I was watching it but I immediately had no desire to see it again. Whereas Kiki's just grows deeper with each viewing; it's a story comfortable in its smallness and unapologetic about how much the small things can matter to children (or to people generally). Yeah, it finally swings for a big action climax that comes out of nowhere, but the outcome of that sequence depends on stuff that's actually central to the movie and the main character's arc. I can think of very few kids' movies which are as finely executed.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not sure about critical discourse, it's just a slow gentle film where nothing happens and (spoilers) it turns out that even less is happening that it appeared. Some people put up with that for the characters, some people luxuriate in it.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Basically, I liked Howl a lot and thought it worthy of a place. I don't really want to sound like I dislike the others, because I do like them. Even Kiki is a nice little piece, though it's not close to being one of my favourites.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

(And on checking, Totoro made my ballot where Howl did not, so, hey, whatever.)

emil.y, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

'howl' is the only miyazaki that hasn't done anything for me. there are non-miyazaki ghiblis -- like 'arrietty' -- that i like more.

'totoro' is definitely the best IMO -- there's probably never been a better portrayal of children in any movie, animated or otherwise.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

I sorta can't stand much of Totoro. I think all of his post Mononoke movies are stronger.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i kinda quit taking that dork john k seriously when i found out how scornful he and his followers are of chuck jones.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

In that interview posted upthread it sounded like John K's a huge admirer of Chuck Jones.

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

a true and correct poll.

Haha you did realize this when Transformers placed, yes?

(I.E. in a just world, GI Joe would have as well, oops, spoilers.)

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

aaaah I love GI Joe the movie

乒乓, Friday, 18 January 2013 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Loool, Leee.

emil.y, Friday, 18 January 2013 02:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

heh, i just did a google search and found about a zillion blog posts where john k gushes about his favorite chuck jones cartoons. so i guess i stand corrected.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 18 January 2013 02:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

surprised Beauty and the Beast isn't going to place

Chris S, Friday, 18 January 2013 03:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

#2 received the highest number of votes.

(This is your chance to post joke results!)

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hahaha imagine if it was Wall-E at #2, that'd be a pretty wild ride, huh?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

If I were the type to post joke results I would've put "9" because that movie is awful.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well imagine no more.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

#2: Wall-E
dir. Andrew Stanton
2008, USA
556 points, 15 votes



trailer

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

A probable contender for #1

Magic Miike (R Baez), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jesus. Did it get many #1s?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'll refer that question to silby.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Wall-E, so yay Wall-E.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Fern Gully #1

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

#1 Howl's Moving Castle

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hahaha.

emil.y, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

#1: Spirited Away
dir. Hayao Miyazaki
2001, Japan
593 points, 14 votes

CHIHIIIIIIRRRROOOOOO (trailer)

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Wall-E too, but 100 points over Duck Amuck is cray-cray.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah I will recover the #1 vote data this weekend or in like August or something

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Spirited Away otm though, imo

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I did not vote in this but I will submit a posthumous ballot to the ballot thread (which is where all the real shit goes down anyway ;D)

imago, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks to silby for kicking this thing off! And everyone in this thread!

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Far and away my favorite Miyazaki. Stellar art, hilarious characters, perfect fairy-tale logic, wonderful active hero, best Miyazaki soundtrack.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

and thanks to Leee for bringing it home! If I ever run another poll I will appoint a rollout czar in advance because this is obviously the part I'm no good at.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

if anyone (silby? Leee?) has a copy of my ballot... i'd love to post it. i lost my copy tho.

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can recover your ballot yes.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

but not right now.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

A worthy winner!

emil.y, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty great top 4, really.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bravos to silby and Leee!

I loved Spirited Away the first time and was oddly bored/distracted the second. Maybe should have given it more time in between. I bet I'd be very happy watching it now.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost I mean, given that we probably weren't going to see any high placements for, say, Tango

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Worth it in the end, well done folks. Must get around to watching 'Howl's Moving Castle' I suppose.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, well done silby & Leee!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Excellent thread, y'all.

Magic Miike (R Baez), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

and thanks to Leee for bringing it home! If I ever run another poll I will appoint a rollout czar in advance because this is obviously the part I'm no good at.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

de-lurking just to say that this might be my favourite ilx poll yet & I can't wait to read all yr ballots! Personally would have liked to see more fleischer, some ub iwerks, svankmajer shorts like dimensions of dialogue, maybe a token norman mclaren... Also this, which is amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkQ6X7g25H0

Yay at Bill Plympton, double yay at Aladdin not placing. That film is hella overrated imo

Chief Queef - Vaginally Rich (wins), Friday, 18 January 2013 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's been fun, thank you!

I didn't vote because I had too much angst looking at the nominations thread, where I initially had some crazy idea that I should watch at least all the shorts before voting time, and then ran out of time without, uh, watching any of them. But I'm interested to see other people's ballots.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 January 2013 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Up making it into the top 30, let alone the top 10, is baffling.

DavidM, Friday, 18 January 2013 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks to silby and Leee for the poll! Could we have a top 100 recap?

Jah Creature (WilliamC), Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:36 (1 year ago) Permalink


1. Spirited Away
2. Wall-E
3. What's Opera, Doc?
4. Duck Amuck
5. Up
6. The Triplets of Belleville
7. Akira
8. The Iron Giant
9. My Neighbour Totoro
10. The Incredibles
11. The Wrong Trousers
12. South Park
13. Paprika
14. Toy Story 2
15. One Froggy Evening
16. The Nightmare Before Christmas
17. Toy Story
18. Fantasia
19. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
20. Coraline
21. Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century
22. A Charlie Brown Christmas
23. Fantastic Planet
24. Persepolis
25. Yellow Submarine
26. Perfect Blue
27. Robin Hood Daffy
28. Kiki's Delivery Service
29. The Secret of NIMH
30. Alice
31. Fantastic Mr. Fox
32. Creature Comforts
33. Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs
34. Finding Nemo
35. Ratatouille
36. Toy Story 3
37. Watership Down
38. Ghost in the Shell
39. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
40. Porky in Wackyland
41. Monsters, Inc.
42. Waking Life
43. A Scanner Darkly
44. Dumbo
45. The Wizard of Speed and Time
46. Your Face
47. Grand Day Out
48. Charlotte's Web
49. Waltz With Bashir
50. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
51. It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
52. A Close Shave
53. The Rabbit of Seville
54. Beavis and Butthead Do America
55. The Lion King
56. Grave of the Fireflies
57. Millennium Actress
58. Alice in Wonderland
59. Der Fuehrer's Face
60. Transformers: The Movie
61. Pinocchio
62. Lilo & Stitch
63. Beep, Beep!
64. Sledgehammer
65. Porco Rosso
66. Rabbit Fire
67. Princess Mononoke
68. Ninja Scroll
69. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
70. The Emperor's New Groove
71. Laputa: Castle in the Sky
72. I Love to Singa
73. Fievel: An American Tail
74. Bambi Meets Godzilla
75. The Brave Little Toaster
76. Red Hot Riding Hood
77. Feed the Kitty
78. Rejected
79. The Little Mermaid
80. The Secret of Kells
81. Jumping
82. Storytime
83. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
84. Gertie the Dinosaur
85 (TIE). Rango
85 (TIE). Birds Anonymous
85 (TIE). The Jungle Book
88. Animal Farm
89. Allegro Non Troppo
90. The Illusionist
91. Kung Fu Panda
92 (TIE). Bimbo's Initiation
92 (TIE). The Plague Dogs
92 (TIE). Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise
95 (TIE). Bad Luck Blackie
95 (TIE). 8 Ball Bunny
97. Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro
98 (TIE). Gandahar
98 (TIE). When the Wind Blows
100. Little Red Riding Rabbit

emil.y, Saturday, 19 January 2013 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I strongly advise all Americans to watch Watership Down and When the Wind Blows. Still gutted they came so low. Also: more art shorts.

emil.y, Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Warning: When The Wind Blows will ruin your life.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Up making it into the top 30, let alone the top 10, is baffling.

it just sort of floated in there

乒乓, Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Considered going overboard with gifs for Spirited Away, but the screen cap I ended up using, which comes from the most potent scene for me, encapsulates the quiet affect that makes the film so strong.

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Up has strong characterisation, powerful themes, amazing visuals, a decent twist, and talking dogs / dogs in fighter planes - let alone the merciless first five minutes. Up is the Pixar film that doesn't have to explain its place in the top ten.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Warning: When The Wind Blows will ruin your life.

― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:27 (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

up has the most moving first third of a move I've ever seen and then the most tedious longueur of a movie I've ever seen until the finish

乒乓, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't understand how anyone could find a single second of Up in the least bit tedious. Frontin'.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 19 January 2013 12:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I strongly advise all Americans to watch Watership Down and When the Wind Blows. Still gutted they came so low.

I forgot to vote cos I'm a plank, but I would definitely have given these a whole bunch of points. Also Plague Dogs.

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, it's sad not having 101 Dalmatians in here, I love that film.

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok well my ballot would have been, weighted, and possibly including stuff not nominated (my #3 especially)

1 Mind Game
2 Watership Down
3 5 Centimeters Per Second
4 Akira
5 Princess Mononoke
6 A Scanner Darkly
7 Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs
8 The Wrong Trousers
9 South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut
10 The Lion King

ten will do. really though, do as strongo says and watch Mind Game, it's the greatest, and also watch 5cm/second coz it's only an hour long but DAMN will it move you with its understated storyline of temps perdu and *astounding* visual aesthetic

every pixar movie ever scores 8/10 and lacks a tiny something (too controlled I think), haven't seen up or ratatouille yet mind

imago, Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks for the recap, emil.y!

Jah Creature (WilliamC), Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

It transpires that Myon too has not achieved her aspirations, as she was a swimming champion during high school, but gave up when her breasts became too big.

o_O

emil.y, Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aw Jesus I forgot Cloudy!

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't know why I'm boggling at that, tbh. It's probably a very real thing in terms of slipstream and drag reduction. And also, it's a Japanese animation, that's probably one of the least weird things that happens.

emil.y, Saturday, 19 January 2013 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

i agree that this was one of the best polls ever.

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 January 2013 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also the first of the last four film polls where the winner wasn't from the 80s.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 January 2013 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Looks like I left Ponyo off my ballot... or else we voted before it was released?

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Saturday, 19 January 2013 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

zomg: live action Toy Story

SOPA Middleton (Leee), Sunday, 20 January 2013 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

my ballot:

1. Duck Dodgers in the 24 ½th Century (Chuck Jones, 1953)
2. My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988)
3. Charlie Brown Christmas, A (Bill Melendez, 1965)
4. Fantastic Planet (René Laloux, 1973)
5. Popeye the Sailor Meets Sinbad the Sailor (Dave Fleischer, 1936)
6. Little Red Riding Rabbit (Friz Freleng, 1944)
7. Der Fuehrer’s Face (Jack Kinney, 1942)
8. Chicken Little (Clyde Geronimi, 1943)
9. The Small Planets (Art Clokey, 1960)
10. Fantastic Mr. Fox (Wes Anderson, 2009)
11. Kiki’s Delivery Service (Hayao Miyazaki, 1989)
12. Allegro non troppo (Bruno Bozzetto, 1977)
13. Gertie the Dinosaur (Winsor McCay, 1914)
14. Alice (Jan Svankmajer, 1988)
15. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (Hayao Miyazaki, 1984)
16. Vinni Pukh (Fyodor Khitruk, 1970)
17. It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown (Bill Melendez, 1966)
18. A Cat in Paris (Jean-Loup Felicioli & Alain Gagnol, 2010)
19. Birds Anonymous (Friz Freleng, 1957)
20. The Brave Little Tailor (Disney, 1938)
21. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (John Lounsbery & Wolfgang Reitherman, 1977)
22. The Secret World of Arietty (Hiromasa Yonebayashi, 2010)
23. The Three Little Bops (Friz Freleng, 1957)
24. Persepolis (Vincent Paronnaud & Marjane Satrapi, 2007)
25. The Hole Idea (Robert McKimson, 1955)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 01:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

someone was playing Alice from a projector in this empty room next door to a bar a few days before i saw it listed at #30 here. I had never heard of it before, but the 30 minutes I saw were trippy as hell.

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 January 2013 06:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't remember if this is underrated or not

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 January 2013 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

did anyone else hang on to their ballot? was really looking forward to checking out everyone's lists.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^

☯ t (wins), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Spirited Away
Alice
Incredibles, The
Rango
Whats Opera, Doc?
Akira
Up
Augusta Feeds Her Child
Your Face
Fantasia
Coraline
Bambi
Slap-Happy Lion, The
Wizard of Speed and Time, The
Toy Story 2
Triplets of Belleville, The
Persepolis
Wall-E
Heaven and Earth Magic
Brave Little Toaster, The
Chicken Run
Duck Amuck
Luncheon
Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2th Century
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Iron Giant, The
Jumping
Lion King, The
Mechanical Monsters, The
Nightmare Before Christmas, The
One Froggy Evening
Rabbit of Seville, The
Red Hot Riding Hood
Robin Hood Daffy
Scanner Darkly, A
Baby Snakes
Beep, Beep!

Not the most adventurous ballot, but it's all mine, baby. I'm happy that I was able to bring "The Wizard of Speed and Time" to ILX's hivemind attention.

Dr. Alfred P. Falfa (WilliamC), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i found mine! be kind.

1. Fievel: An American Tail
2. I Love to Singa
3. Ratatouille
4. Spirited Away
5. Waltz with Bashir
6. Secret World of Arietty
7. The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
8. Wall-E
9. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
10. Secret of NIMH
11. Beauty and the Beast
12. Alice in Wonderland
13. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
14. Toy Story
15. Beavis and Butthead Do America
16. Charlotte's Web
17. Cinderella
18. The Incredibles
19. Kiki's Delivery Service
20. The Lion King
21. Monsters, Inc
22. Princess Mononoke
23. Akira
24. It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
25. My Neighbor Totoro
26. Betty Boop and Grampy
27. A Scanner Darkly
28. Sleeping Beauty
29. South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
30. Dot and the Kangaroo
31. The Hobbit
32. Coraline
33. Up
34. What's Opera, Doc?
35. Nightmare Before Christmas
36. All Dogs Go to Heaven
37. Aladdin
38. Bambi Meets Godzilla
39. Bambi
40. The Cat Came Back
41. The Brave Little Tailor
42. Pinocchio
43. Lady and the Tramp
44. Mulan
45. Land Before Time
46. The Little Mermaid
47. Peter Pan
48. Toy Story 2
49. The Rescuers
50. The Princess and the Frog

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Would quite probably be different if I did it again today, but my ballot:

1. Watership Down
2. When the Wind Blows
3. Spirited Away
4. Jabberwocky
5. One Froggy Evening
6. Motion Painting No. 1
7. Arabesque
8. Wolfman, The
9. Paprika
10. Darkness/Light/Darkness
11. Triplets of Belleville, The
12. Perfect Blue
13. Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics, The
14. Animal Farm
15. Wall-E
16. Komposition in Blau
17. Cat Came Back, The
18. What's Opera, Doc?
19. The Aristocats
20. Nightmare Before Christmas, The
21. My Neighbour Totoro
22. Persepolis
23. Robin Hood
25. Wizard of Speed and Time, The

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

'spirited away' is the one i most regret leaving off. i rewatched it a couple weeks ago and it's just as good as everyone else says it is.

i vaguely remember seeing 'dot and the kangaroo.' didn't they make a bunch of other 'dot' movies in the 80s?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.ifccenter.com/films/academy-award-nominated-animated-short-films-2013/
just saw this. interesting crop but nothing that killed me.
Some excerpts:



^maybe the best one

some full length:

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man, hope that's just the intro to _Tetsuo 3: Paperman_ and shit gets rolling in the next scene.

Øystein, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

my ballot

1 gantz graf
2 spirited away
3 paprika
4 your face
5 Creature Comforts
6 luxo jr
7 duck amuk
8 up
9 my neighbor totoro
10 akira
11 mind game
12 grand day out
13 who framed roger rabbit
14 Alice
15 a scanner darkly
16 wall-e
17 toy story 3
18 the wrong trousers
19 castle of cagliostro
20 Storytime
21 Girl who Leapt Through Time, The
22 porco rosso
23 watership down
24 jungle book
25 the tune
26 sledgehammer
27 when the wind blows
28 waltz with bashir
29 Triplets of Belleville, The
30 fell in love with a girl
31 gandahar
32 fantastic planet
33 patlabor 2
34 Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
35 shrek
36 Yellow Submarine, The

ledge, Thursday, 7 February 2013 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wrong Trousers, The
Toy Story 2
Lilo & Stitch
What’s Opera, Doc?
Spirited Away
Robin Hood Daffy
Duck Amuck
Alice
Toy Story
Close Shave, A (Wallace and Gromit)
Up
Finding Nemo
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Yellow Submarine, The
South Park
Princess Mononoke
Akira
Scanner Darkly, A
Millennium Actress
Tin Toy
Grand Day Out (Wallace and Gromit)
To Beep or Not To Beep
Duck Dodgers in the 24 ½th Century
Kung Fu Panda
Dimensions of Dialogue
Hopalong Casualty
Curse of the Were-Rabbit, The
Lord of the Rings, The
Chicken Run
Feed The Kitty
Monsters, Inc.
Nightmare Before Christmas, The
Toy Story 3
My Neighbor Totoro
Kiss Me Cat
Red Hot Riding Hood
Wall-E
One Froggy Evening
Bully for Bugs <- Write-in vote, genuinely surprised it wasn't nominated.
Emperor’s New Groove, The
Matter of Loaf and Death, A (Wallace and Gromit)
Incredibles, The
Rango
Creature Comforts
Tangled
When the Wind Blows
Ratatoullie
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Antz
Kiki’s Delivery Service

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 February 2013 09:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://goodfil.ms/films/by_genre/3-animation/most_popular

ledge, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like ours better.

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just watched Coraline, pretty disappointed. It seemed so sparse, full of dead air or cursorily written lines like it was just a draft script. The music was similarly thin and the set pieces were just odd - the mouse circus was boring, the old actresses' mermaid & venus double act frankly bizarre. And the story was cut and pasted from a bunch of traditional fairy tales with no spark of its own.

ledge, Saturday, 16 February 2013 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

On further reflection I think it just wasn't creepy or weird enough. Don't really know the age range of the book but this was firmly in young kids territory where it could have been closer to young adults; and having the entire film animated meant the other world never seemed other worldly; if the real world had been live action or even just done in a different style... would like an idea of what the book was like but bleugh.

ledge, Sunday, 17 February 2013 10:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

and having the entire film animated meant the other world never seemed other worldly; if the real world had been live action or even just done in a different style...

the 3D handled this beautifully though - when she first looks out into the "other" backyard and the rear of the image just plummets away from you, and then the whole world stays so depth-enhanced for her whole adventure there

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Sunday, 17 February 2013 12:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

my ballot:

1. Fantasia
2. What’s Opera, Doc?
3. Wall-E
4. Wrong Trousers, The
5. Duck Amuck
6. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
7. It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown
8. Nightmare Before Christmas, The
9. Iron Giant, The
10. Ratatoullie
11. Robin Hood
12. Robin Hood Daffy
13. Hobbit, The
14. Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel)
15. Incredibles, The
16. Up
17. Rabbit of Seville, The
18. Porky in Wackyland
19. Rabbit Seasoning
20. Pinocchio
21. Charlie Brown Christmas, A
22. Monsters, Inc.
23. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
24. Little Red Riding Rabbit
25. Little Hiawatha
26. Emperor’s New Groove, The
27. Aristocats, The
28. Charlotte’s Web
29. Creature Comforts
30. Sword in the Stone, The
31. Finding Nemo
32. Rabbit Fire
33. South Park
34. Transformers: The Movie, The
35. Toy Story
36. Close Shave, A (Wallace and Gromit)
37. Duck Dodgers in the 24 ½th Century
38. Alice in Wonderland
39. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
40. Last Unicorn, The
41. Jungle Book, The
42. Fantastic Mr. Fox
43. Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The
44. Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad, The
45. Lilo & Stitch
46. Gulliver’s Travels
47. Grand Day Out (Wallace and Gromit)
48. One Hundred and One Dalmatians
49. Anastasia
50. Birds Anonymous

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Think this was my ballot

1. Wall-E
2. Secret of Kells, The
3. Spirited Away
4. Iron Giant, the
5. Dumbo
6. Ratatoullie
7. Ghost in the Shell
8. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
9. Duck Amuck
10. Paprika
11. Incredibles, The
12. Toy Story 2
13. Monsters, Inc.
14. Finding Nemo
15. Brave
16. Duck Dodgers in the 24 ½th Century
17. G.I. Joe: The Movie
18. Feed the kitty
19. Scarlet Pumpernickel, The
20. 8 Ball Bunny
21. Great Piggy Bank Robbery, The
22. Operation: Rabbit
23. Robin Hood Daffy
24. kiss me cat
25. Bad Luck Blackie
26. Rabbit Fire
27. walky talky hawky
28. Beep, Beep!
29. Toy Story 3
30. Brave Little Toaster, The
31. Porky in Wackyland
32. What’s Opera, Doc?
33. I love to singa
34. Amazing Screw-On Head, The

Should've included Ponyo.

Also, Russian shorts like this that I just found:

Liz Phair Dinkum (Leee), Monday, 4 March 2013 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Okay, so I'm in a fairly bad place at the moment anyway, but Film4 just showed Grave of the Fireflies and I basically just wept continuously for half an hour at the end. Really good film.

emil.y, Thursday, 12 September 2013 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha just the thing to cheer you up! i bought some of these the other day

Hiroyasu Ishida is a name to watch out for, he made the following two short films on his own while at university, the second one was his graduation film. both won nearly every award going.

Fumiko's Confession

Rain Town

his first "proper" film is coming out soon, here's a key visual

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

looks gorgeous.
however, suspect i will forget to record it with film4 show it at 2:45am in 2 years time.

mark e, Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

problem with the ILX poll (wait for it):

too much from the last 25 years

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 16:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

Finally, a list that includes Heavy Traffic!

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 17:19 (8 months ago) Permalink


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