R.I.P. Ray Bradbury

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rest easy, big man. your imagination is still a big inspiration to me. you got me into sci-fi singlehandedly!

http://lovecraft1890.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/raybradbury.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

also, great watch. and cat.

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

Aw damn. But what a life! RIP sir, one of the true greats.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Utter classic and a legend in his own time. RIP good friend.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

rip

shipl.de.al (some dude), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.lwcurrey.com/pictures/111879.jpg

^^ one of my fave books of all time

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

In my sci-fi years I wanted to be all into the "edgiest" stuff (i.e. Dangerous Visions and British New Wave, "speculative" fiction plz lol) and then I read Something Wicked This Way Comes and it basically punched all my buttons. So good. Rest in peace Ray B. iirc you became a cranky old man like we mostly all will but your books inspire young people to dream about stuff so you're a net positive to the world!!

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

I still can't believe my good fortune in having The Martian Chronicles read to me and others in my fourth grade class -- a wonderful introduction, and lord knows talk about a dip into some really heady waters early on in life.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

My favorite story about him was how classy he was in dealing with EC Comics when they adapted his work without permission.

Adaptations of Ray Bradbury science-fiction stories, which appeared in two dozen EC comics starting in 1952. It began inauspiciously, with an incident in which Feldstein and Gaines plagiarized two of Bradbury's stories and combined them into a single tale. Learning of the story, Bradbury sent a note praising them, while remarking that he had "inadvertently" not yet received his payment for their use. EC sent a check and negotiated a productive series of Bradbury adaptations.[9]

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

just wrote this on my facebook. put it here too. this is basically how i feel about him:

it wasn't even that long ago that i started reading his stories with great enthusiasm. he turned a light on in my head. it dawned on me that you can go anywhere you want to go in fiction. anywhere that your mind can go. and this is true of all writing. and life! it was kind of jaw-dropping to me how many ideas he could come up with within a single story.

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

And good god, "The Veldt."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

What a wonderful curmudgeon.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, it was somehow really liberating to learn that at an advanced age (6 or 7 years ago). or RE-learn it. i always knew that when i was kid. about writing and the imagination. but it was truly inspiring to read his stories. it made me fall in love with books again. for real.

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

aw, RIP

goole, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

i agree w that scott, just the sheer density of ideas in some of his stories is amazing. i feel the same way about a few other folks--Leiber and Sturgeon come to mind immediately-but it's also something I didn't learn to appreciate until later in life. As a young teen/pre-teen, I was too engrossed in 'adventure' to really fully grasp how inventive Bradbury was.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

getting that 4th video wall put in to honor him.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

From the io9.com story, a memory from his grandson:

If you're looking for any single passage to remember him by, I just picked up my copy of The Illustrated Man, my favorite of his books. The introduction is entitled "Dancing, So As Not to Be Dead," and there are some great lines about death. My favorite:

"My tunes and numbers are here. They have filled my years, the years when I refused to die. And in order to do that I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, at noon or 3:00 A.M.

So as not to be dead."

I'm an actor, something he was always been really proud of, and told me once, after getting cast in a play. "You're living out my life! You're doing everything I wanted to do but couldn't!" He was such a driving force in my life, but what always fascinated me were his impact on others. How his stories lifted people up and saved them from lonely summers. Who among us was never buried deep in a Bradbury story, lost in his meticulously yet effortlessly crafted metaphor?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Haven't read nearly enough of this guy. Something Wicked is a classic and childhood fave and of course I've come across a fair few of his stories in various collections across the years. Also Fahrenheit 451. Will seek out more - RIP.

Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

"The Veldt" changed my life as a kid

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

So at what temperature do they perform cremations at these days?

pplains, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Hoping they donate his ashes to NASA so they can take him along on the Mars mission.

RIP

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

really one of the first writers to really engage me deeply to the point where I voraciously checked out everything by him from the public library over a period of years.

when I moved two years ago I lost, somehow, one box of books, the one that included signed first editions of a bunch of douglas adams books but more importantly, a signed first edition of the Illustrated Man. Had to have been left and pilfered at my storage spot. Damn!

akm, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

George Peppard Steak (snoball), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

rip. his writing was one of my first great literature loves. i read so much stuff by him, of course all the short story collections, but also something wicked this way comes and a graveyard for lunatics. illustrated man, dandelion wine, fahrenheit 451, martian chronicles, i think the last thing i read by him was the short story collection Quicker Than The Eye - which i remember buying in hardcover when i was idk, around 12. one of the first grownup lit purchases i made on my own.

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

met him once at a booksigning when I was a kid. awesome dude. RIP

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

RIP, my first favorite author. i should revisit this stuff, haven't read it in forever.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno if it's just me, but his writing always felt very intimate....like he was pulling you in to tell you a secret. There was always a sense that I was reading something that no-one else had ever read, despite his fame etc. I can't really explain it...

RIP. Thanks for the journeys!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

91 years old! RIP

poxen, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

I love his books so much, and I've read them so many times over the years, that they feel like part of where I'm from. Going back to The October Country or Martian Chronicles now is like returning home. And a place that was passed down to me, too -- my father was the one who gave me my first copies of The Illustrated Man and The October Country. I will do my best to pass them along to my own kids. I'd love to be there the first time they read "The Veldt" or "The Crowd." (Actually, I might keep a safe distance when they read "The Veldt"...)

R.I.P. Thanks for the stories.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

I need to read a ton more things by him.

I'd heard a Caedmon Records reading of this story by Leonard Nimoy in the '70s, but YT only has Burgess Meredith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXKT7QQsVx0

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

one of my first big loves too. i have the big red book of short stories, it is great for dipping even when a story turns out to be thin and hysterical. something wicked and "the veldt" both total masterpieces.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1IxOS4VzKM

RIP dude. I love that EC documentary where you do an extended interview as a bonus feature and couldn't be bothered getting dressed for it.

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

my father also introduced me to bradbury xxxp

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

His writing got more ornate and would-be poetic as he went along, not to its benefit. But pretty much everything through S Is for Space is essential, imo.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

My favourite short story writer. I too was fortunate enough to get some Bradbury fed to me at school. "The Fruit at the Bottom of the Bowl" and "The Veldt" made such an impression aged 13.

RIP

Jeff W, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

did all you people who loved 'the veldt' have terrible parents?

Jesu swept (ledge), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

does everyone who loved the little assassin have terrible babbies?

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

haha.
it's funny, even though I was probably eight or nine when I read the martian chronicles, i remember *getting* that the stories weren't supposed to be some kind of truly speculative version of what Mars might be, but more of this imaginative fantasia kinda thing that was more about humanity than it was about spaceships or whatever. not saying i was a super-precocious reader or anything, just that Bradbury was able to get that across to a nine-year-old.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

I'll have to read The Veldt at lunch to figure out if I've read it before.

http://www.veddma.com/veddma/Veldt.htm

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I have a brother 12 yrs younger than me who was a baby at the time I read "Small Assassin." I had a nightmare where he was walking around holding a scalpel. One of two specifically Bradbury-inspired nightmares I can remember, though there were probably more.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

there's a great moment in Fallout 3 where you step into a bombed out house where all the humans are dead but a robot keeps up the maintenance and reads 'there will come soft rains' to the children's skeletons

Mordy, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

re-read the October Country recently and The Scythe creeped me out something proper.

koogs, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

ha, i thought i was the only one who was really effected by The Veldt as a kid

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

Steve Youngblood (dan m), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

This is a sad day. I read Something Wicked... just a few months ago, having managed never to read it before, and it really is a masterpiece. The short stories, and the work approach of the man himself, such huge influences on me in so many ways, right down to autumn in Minnesota automatically being BRADBURY'S TIME.

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

This dude GOT IT DONE.

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

We should do a rundown of the various film/TV/radio adaptations. Here's The Electric Grandmother aka a version of "I Sing the Body Electric!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvUWvifigLs

And of course I presume we all know about Something Wicked This Way Comes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

he was awesome. i remember reading an old book of his stories when i was a pre-teen and just loving it so much, total young-mind-shaping times.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp ha, just found out my friend's dad did the screenplay for that w/ bradbury!

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

and the cat pic is perfect.
RIP

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

how is the film of Something Wicked? He wrote the script. It got p good reviews in '83 but did no business, I think.

Purists were upset with the Truffaut version on F451, but I thought it came off reasonably well, esp the last scene. (and considering the director hadn't mastered English)

And he adapted Moby-Dick for John Huston, which I haven't seen either.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

He was involved on some level with the big Harryhausen/Schneer fantasies too right?

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Morbs, see Huston's Moby! It slays.

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

i remember meeting ray bradbury as a teenager. i asked him to sign a book for me and i said a bunch of well-meaning but inane teenage hero worship shit about his books. maybe it was because his books were the first adult books i'd read where i grasped a certain level of thematic subtlety.i mean i had read adult books and i had read stuff like heinlein and stephen king and whatnot and i'd "got the message" and i had read philip k dick and understood the plot (if not necessarily the message), but i remember the nihilism of things like the martian chronicles and fahrenheit 451 and the way he undercut his heroes. maybe it was the first time i really grasped the feeling of a pyrrhic victory?

anyway, i met him and had him sign the small pile of paperbacks that i'd gradually nicked from the school library and he said something back that was kind and diplomatic but at the same time somehow also made me keenly aware that what i'd say was a bunch of inane teenage shit. i think this was maybe the first time an adult other than my parents had really done that to me and i sort of remember it as the beginning of a long decline into the self-loathing, frustration and isolation most of his best characters (guy, spender, etc) seem to embody. it was years before i went back to ray bradbury - maybe not even until after college - and i never really

thanks a lot big guy.

the late great, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

This is spectacularly sad to me; Bradbury saw me through puberty. I'm genuinely choked up. Love this guy, RIP.

“Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

I've read that the Something Wicked production was rather fraught. Shit got changed a lot from RB's draft, some Disney interference, the score which Georges Delerue wrote and fully recorded was thrown out, etc.

(the rejected Delerue score is one of the best film scores of all time BTW)

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

There's also the animated movie The Halloween Tree which looks kinda bad but I wanna see it someday...

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

Of course he's a hero of mine:

Ray Bradbury had a lifetime of amazing accomplishments but perhaps most notable was living 50+ years in LA without ever learning to drive.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

JL, I have to read Moby-Dick first.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

I remember the film version of Something Wicked really freaking me the fuck out and thinking it was awesome but y'know I was like 13 and haven't seen it since.

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

At around age 15, The October Country changed the way I read, the way Hitchcock changed the way I watch movies.

I will never forget you, Mr. Bradbury.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

RIP, ray. my first favorite author, not since displaced.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Martian Chronicles is probably my favorite book of all time.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Great line I just stumbled across in that Electric Grandmother adaptation I linked earlier, from near the end of the film:

"I forget the difference between loving people and paying attention to them. There is a difference."

Hate to say one line sums up a life's work, but it sums up a large part of it, so well.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

No-one else liked the TV miniseries of The Martian Chronicles, but I loved it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEMWtyAKRhQ

RIP, the Golden Age writers are almost all gone now aren't they?

A++++++ would deal to again (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

I think a bunch of people around here DID like it.

Pohl is still around.

ha i remember watching that martian chronicles miniseries as a kid and being ... disappointed. but maybe it's good!

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I remember the miniseries was shown just a few months after the fourth-grade reading I mentioned and I was very, very hyped for it; my parents let me stay up to watch it all. One of the first times I was ever disappointed that they didn't 'film the book,' but you have to learn at some point. I'm sure it comes across as clunky in parts now but I'm glad they did it, hell, I'm still surprised they did it!

I found it very interesting, when I got around to reading Rock Hudson's official biography/autobiography years later, that there's absolutely no mention of it at all in there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

in that still, it just looks like a Martian guested on an episode of McMillan and Wife.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

Here was a recent mention: The 1970's Science Fiction Movie Poll

I'm thinking about the intro segments to that Ray Bradbury Theater (Ray Bradbury Presents?) anthology show from the 80s, where RB sits surrounded by all these crazy toys and pieces of art. 'I just look around and find my inspiration...'

The most memorable episode from that series for me was the one where the kid meets a scary old hobo in a rail car who talks to him about the savagery of the ol' cavemen...

but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

the something wicked movie is truncated and conventionalized and the two kids aren't very good but jason robards (as will's dad the fearfully aging town librarian) and jonathan pryce (as MR. DARK) are both great and the movie kinda naturally recenters on them. they have a totally great scene together when mr. dark offers will's dad his youth in exchange for betraying the kids, and offers him one less year removed for each few seconds he hesitates, it is torture porn but just w/ talking.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody on this thread liked the miniseries: Ray Bradbury's _The Martian Chronicles_

pam grier, too, in something wicked!

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's a sign of how specific and towering Bradbury was that I was convinced 'The Ugly Little Boy' was by him until I checked just now and discovered it was Asimov. It just SEEMS like it would be a perfect Bradbury story.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for that link to the thread there, James Redd, had almost forgotten about that. But a lot of the comments on the miniseries there are positive!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Something that really made me happy decades ago was reading in Arthur C. Clarke's autobiography how much he loved "The Crowd."

You're welcome, Ned. Sorry, but I can't read whole threads carefully anymore, I have moved down the message board life cycle chain as described by Tom in his paper.

I always had a special place in my heart for The Man Upstairs.

The TV version from Rad Bradbury Theater is excellent as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Mv1Lzsyus

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Meantime, the things I learn -- so Deadmau5's latest single is (and is inspired by)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiUAq4aVTjY

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Ray Bradbury meets Groucho Marx. Crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3B1lYtTJQI

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

He makes an interesting appearance in this book: http://howtowreckanicebeach.com/

man, i loved this guy. reading 'the fog horn' at 9 or whatever was one of the more mindblowing moments of my reading life. i still don't know how he made a lonely dinosaur tearing down a lighthouse seem so poetic and beautiful and sad.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

There is a mention of him in Ballard's intro to his complete short stories that is quoted in the Guardian obit
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/jun/06/ray-bradbury

At its best, in Borges, Ray Bradbury and Edgar Allan Poe, the short story is coined from precious metal, a glint of gold that will glow for ever in the deep purse of your imagination

David Brin in Salon:

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/06/ray_bradbury_american_optimist/singleton/

It's very likely I first became aware of Bradbury by seeing him on the network moon-landing coverage.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

JL, I have to read Moby-Dick first.

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius)

doing it now and easier than you think

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

somehow i'd never read 'the veldt' before. jesus, that's great.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Great summer reading. Like curling up with a stack of comic books and Ray Bradbury. RIP.

they have a totally great scene together when mr. dark offers will's dad his youth in exchange for betraying the kids, and offers him one less year removed for each few seconds he hesitates, it is torture porn but just w/ talking.

That scene blew my mind when I was 12, and now that I'm older, it blows my mind even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmRdHVkqS_k

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

RIP, the Golden Age writers are almost all gone now aren't they?

― A++++++ would deal to again (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:49 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Pohl is still around.

― I don't know what to read so I am reading it here (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:52 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Jack Vance is still with us as well. Even older than Bradbury.

Guess what? They crucified him. (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'd put October Country up against any other scary story anthology. So great. Really, really wish all my old Bradbury paperbacks weren't in storage in another state right now.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

Can never forget this (affectionate?) jab from The Simpsons:

Martin Prince: As your president, I would demand a science-fiction library, featuring an ABC of the genre. Asimov, Bester, Clarke.
Student: What about Ray Bradbury?
Martin Prince: I'm aware of his work...

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

I'd put October Country up against any other scary story anthology.

Oh my goodness yes. "The Man Upstairs" and "The Jar" are worth the price of admission by themselves. For some reason "The Next In Line" has always stuck in my mind. It's vague and abstract, the plot more a sketch than a drawing, and that is exactly its strength.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

The October Country is his most surreal book, I'd say. And probably my favorite. Though you can't mess much with The Illustrated Man.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone read Arkham's Dark Carnival collection (o.g. version of October Country)? How do they compare?

Guess what? They crucified him. (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

xp (Unless you try to make a movie starring Rod Steiger out of it. No thank you, but an E for effort.)

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

That Brin piece just reminded me of 'All Summer in a Day,' which I'd almost forgotten. I am positive that's the first Bradbury I'd ever read, back in third grade or so. Between that and a lot of Charles Schulz you got as perfect a description of child-on-child cruelty as you could imagine.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

'zero hour' scared the hell out of me when i first read it. funny how many bradbury stories seem to turn on the idea that very young children naturally resent and hate their parents.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

monster_xero, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

his last ever article: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/06/04/120604fa_fact_bradbury

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

RIP

Chris S, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

xp I guess that's a fitting send-off. RIP

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Back in the 1970s when Laguna Beach was still a weirdo artist beach town and not a MTV meme, there was a bookstore called Fahrenheit 451. The store carried a lot of counter-culture and beat lit along with lots of sci-fi and it always a hang-out for me. Ray Bradbury would always come by a couple times a year to read, sign books, and just yak with people - perpetually bemused that someone named a store after one of his books. I went to see him there... I was ten years old and completely in love with The Golden Apples of the Sun short stories. First time I stood in line to meet anyone - he signed my book and then said ""with a book, you'll always have a friend." Never forgot that.

Anyway, next to his writing perhaps Bradbury's most important lesson is in how to be a cranky old man and yet still be cool and enthusiastic.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'd put October Country up against any other scary story anthology. So great.

― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh my goodness yes. "The Man Upstairs" and "The Jar" are worth the price of admission by themselves. For some reason "The Next In Line" has always stuck in my mind. It's vague and abstract, the plot more a sketch than a drawing, and that is exactly its strength.

...The October Country is his most surreal book, I'd say. And probably my favorite. Though you can't mess much with The Illustrated Man.

― cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


otm. love the october country, one of my favorite short story collections. a while back, i read a few of gabriel garcia marquez' earliest stories, and was struck by how much the vibe reminded me of certain stories in the october country, especially "the next in line". that air of haunted stillness, morbid daylight.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Julio Cortázar mines that territory very well, too.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

a roundup of ray bradbury videos, tributes, etc that i just did:

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/06/remembering-ray-bradbury/

geeta, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Well done.

the future was built into the machinery of the present

Was it William Gibson that said that the future is already here, it just isn't well-distributed yet?

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

There's a copy of The Martian Chronicles on the surface Mars.

Attached to the deck of the lander (next to the US flag) is the "Phoenix DVD", compiled by the Planetary Society. The disc contains Visions of Mars, a multimedia collection of literature and art about the Red Planet. Works include the text of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds (and the radio broadcast by Orson Welles), Percival Lowell's Mars as the Abode of Life with a map of his proposed canals, Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Green Mars. There are also messages directly addressed to future Martian visitors or settlers from, among others, Carl Sagan and Arthur C. Clarke. In 2006, The Planetary Society collected a quarter million names submitted through the Internet and placed them on the disc, which claims, on the front, to be "the first library on Mars." This Phoenix DVD is similar to the Voyager Golden Record that was sent on the Voyager 1 & 2 missions.

The Phoenix DVD is made of a special silica glass designed to withstand the Martian environment, lasting for hundreds (if not thousands) of years on the surface while it awaits discoverers.

http://www.planetary.org/assets/images/society/messages/phoenix_dvd_on-mars.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Wow. Beats the hell out of those gold CDs they used to sell. What a rip-off those were.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

"All Summer in a Day" changed my world, too

I read both that and "The Veldt" in my brother's Great Books compilations

WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I read Bradbury as a kid but I don't remember.

Where should I start?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

The October Country.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

And Something Wicked...

Guess what? They crucified him. (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

I remember going to a party in New York about 35 years ago. They all called me Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. I said, “You, ma’am, your name and phone number? And you, sir, your phone number? And you, sir?” And they said, “Why are you taking our phone numbers?” I said, “Because the night we land on the moon, you’re going to get called.” I was in London when we did. I called three of them, and when they answered I said, “Stupid son of a bitch,” and hung up.
Ray Bradbury, to Newsweek, Nov 12, 1995.

DavidM, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

Hero.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

Love that him and Harryhausen (also 91!) were lifetime buds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27DymGi3w2E

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

Aw man, that moon landing story is the best. HERO indeed!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, of course ~10 years after they gave him the numbers (sounds like the party was circa 1960) they may well belong to different people.

nickn, Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

Hopefully he asked for them by name first.

I love the ordering of identifiers in this headline.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

Also wish I could have been at this:

Library and city officials scheduled public festivities to honor Bradbury on Wednesday night in downtown Waukegan, including an outdoor screening of an episode of “The Ray Bradbury Theater,” the anthology series that ran on HBO and the USA Network from 1985-1992.

The event was also scheduled to feature a candlelight ceremony at 8 p.m. outside the County Street library, along with a reading of Bradbury passages by Sabonjian and library director Richard Lee.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

there's a story that i remember. i think it's bradbury, and i think it's martian (but not in the chronicles) but i don't remember really. just that the plot involves the last man on mars (or maybe earth), and he's been alive for years, and alone for years, and he starts getting phone calls and letters and soforth which torment him. they were all set up to be sent by his younger self, in the throes of a sort of aggressive loneliness and despair. i think about this story all the time, since it's just such a perfect metaphor for all sorts of things. anyone remember this story, or where it's from precisely?

s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link

“It’s driven a lot of writing...I want to be one up on death. I want to leave a lot of me behind. Every time I finish a new novel, there’s that triumphant moment when I pop it in the mailbox and think, ‘OK, death. One up. One up.’”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 June 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes Facebook gives me a headache:

my friend shared a link to the huffpo announcement of Bradbury's death on FB with the following note to her friends: "omg! we JUST stayed in his house last week in Palm Springs!!!!!"

u_u

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 June 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

I guess they were not there during the soft rain season.

xxxp Night Call, Collect. I think it's in the collection I Sing The Body Electric. Unsettling as all hell. That book also had The Haunting of the New, one of my favorite story titles ever, and a really nice variation on the classic haunted house story (the house is haunted by the knowledge of what it used to be, and just wants to stop existing).

JoeStork, Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:47 (eleven years ago) link

I posted this on facebook, the last couple paragraphs of "Mars is Heaven!":

In the morning the brass band played a mournful dirge. From every house in the street came little solemn processions bearing long boxes, and along the sun-filled street, weeping, came the grandmas and mothers and sisters and brothers and uncles and fathers, walking to the churchyard, where there were new holes freshly dug and new tombstones installed. Sixteen holes in all, and sixteen tombstones.
The mayor made a little sad speech, his face sometimes looking like the mayor, sometimes looking like something else.

Mother and Father Black were there, with Brother Edward, and they cried, their faces melting now from a familiar face into something else.
Grandpa and Grandma Lustig were there, weeping, their faces shifting like wax, shimmering as all things shimmer on a hot day.
The coffins were lowered. Someone murmured about “the unexpected and sudden deaths of sixteen fine men during the night –”
Earth pounded down on the coffin lids.

The brass band, playing “Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean,” marched and slammed back into town, and everyone took the day off.

JoeStork, Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link

went to a few used bookstores this afternoon, primarily to scout paperbacks of gene wolf's urth of the new sun series (got the first three in "timescape" pb's for $3). while out and about, i also picked up copies of the october country and the vintage bradbury best-of collection. haven't read RB in probably 20 years, so i'm looking forward to revisiting some of my favorites. maybe something wicked... next?

anyway, was nice to commiserate/reminisce with bookstore peeps about ray's passing. hard to find dedicated readers my age who don't hold him dear. i wonder if he means much to young folks, or if he's slipped over the horizon of "weird old stuff". probably, but the youngish bar crew i talked to later on were shook to hear he'd gone.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 June 2012 07:02 (eleven years ago) link

Steven Spielberg, Stephen King, et al., offer remembrances: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/bradbury-death-steven-spielberg-obama-stephen-king-damon-lindelof-tribute-334275

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

thanks joe. found a recording of it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR36HbWgxYw

s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

this is such a cruel story. breathtaking.

s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

i think they still read martian chronicles in schools

the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

actually i'm certain they do

the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, but they actually read them in Martian now. Maybe Klingon. Whatever.

Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Wonder what old Ray thought of the con lang movement?

F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

There were definitely a few years where Bradbury was my favorite writer. (I think it went something like Frank Herbert->Ray Bradbury->Kurt Vonnegut->Thomas Pynchon.)

Don't think anyone's linked this Paris Review interview yet. Pretty interesting stuff:

http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/6012/the-art-of-fiction-no-203-ray-bradbury

o. nate, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

thinking about it a bit, bradbury's decaying future seems to presage a fair amount of cyberpunk, not to mention the chums of chance storyline in Against the Day...

s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

I checked the massive story collection out of the library this morning and, yes, I HAVE read "The Veldt." Good times.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

some other necrophile hadn't beaten you to it?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Students don't check books out of the library.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Those aren’t books. You can’t hold a computer in your hand like you can a book. A computer does not smell. There are two perfumes to a book. If a book is new, it smells great. If a book is old, it smells even better. It smells like ancient Egypt. A book has got to smell. You have to hold it in your hands and pray to it. You put it in your pocket and you walk with it. And it stays with you forever. But the computer doesn’t do that for you. I’m sorry.

lol, much love

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Things were better before the mechanization of print. Nothing beats the smell and feel of hand-tooled leather and monk sweat. But still, manuscripts got nothing on the oral tradition, when dudes had to memorize some shit before they got lazy and started storing their knowledge in codices.

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

I just like the idea of priveleging how reading material smells

retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I never realized how many cranky, oddball opinions Bradbury holds - but I cut him a lot of slack since his genius seems intertwined with his metaphorical view of life.

o. nate, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

This is great: "I have three rules to live by. One, get your work done. If that doesn’t work, shut up and drink your gin. And when all else fails, run like hell!"

o. nate, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

ray otm

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

what is wrong w/ cranky oddballism?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

I started reading "The Better Part of Wisdom" at lunch. Is this a story with gay characters...?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

what is wrong w/ cranky oddballism?

Nothing! People up-thread alluded to some of his Tea-Party-esque political views - but perhaps those are rather normal for someone of his generation, and not examples of oddballism.

o. nate, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

loveable cranks are cool

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

I just like the idea of priveleging how reading material smells

I actually do! Bradbury totally nails why I prefer to read from books over screens. I just get a kick out of the "damn kids get off my lawn" aspects of bibliophilia.

Convert simple JEEZ to BDSMcode (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

If cherishing printed and bound paper is now considered bibliophilia, then I'm an old crank as well. I don't want or need every book that I will ever read in that format, but some books require it. My giant hardback edition of the complete works of e.e. cummings. That same shitty paperback of Catcher in the Rye that everyone has, with the inexplicable 45-degree rainbow in the top corner, like a generic brand from Aldi. Emily Dickinson with a broken spine. James Burke with huge pages, an illustration on literally almost every one of them. Some books require texture, and their own specific gravity.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Friday, 8 June 2012 06:36 (eleven years ago) link

I got the e.e. cummings book used from Powell's. It's unstained, unread, and very likely unopened. There is writing on the inside front title page:

Jill,

May you find inspiration and comfort in this book. You have been and continue to be a truly wonderful friend! ((The exclamation point has a heart where the dot should be.)) Thank you for teaching me to be "mindful." Love, Alex.

Either Jill didn't much care for the book and still hasn't told Alex, or Jill and Alex aren't speaking anymore. Either way, there's a story in this book. Just this one book.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Friday, 8 June 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link

Re: The Better Part of Wisdom, yes, it is. I remember it being a little bit awkward, as if Bradbury was pushing himself to write about something he wasn't really that familiar or comfortable with. But it's a sweet story.

Reread "The Jar." God, what a creepy little bit of ugliness. "Tom Carmody, who would never smile again..."

JoeStork, Friday, 8 June 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

The whole damn book is like that! And god I love it.

cue "White Rabbit" (kenan), Friday, 8 June 2012 07:03 (eleven years ago) link

Re: The Better Part of Wisdom, yes, it is. I remember it being a little bit awkward, as if Bradbury was pushing himself to write about something he wasn't really that familiar or comfortable with. But it's a sweet story.

The section of the grandpa's monologue reminiscing in the most lyrical terms his golden friendship with the boy comes as close to authentic poetic prose as I've ever read. I'm astounded Bradbury could write this well. As a result, I tore through about nine stories in one sitting.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

btw my first awareness of RAY BRADBURY as an eminence came when Epcot, then known as EPCOT Center, announced that he'd contributed to the development and script for the Spaceship Earth ride.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

And funny you should say that!

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2012/06/honoring-ray-bradburys-contribution-to-epcot/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

'Make sure when you wake up in the morning that you know you accomplished everything you possibly could the previous day. And then do it again!’

There are two kinds of people in this world....

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

Mr. Bradbury and Dr. Morbius

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

"Doctor" if you're feeling nasty

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

As with R A Heinlein, I prefer his earlier work to his old coot pronouncements.

F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

oh I dunno: Morbs still writes excellent reviews.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

I saw that coming from miles away like the last Martian astronomers saw the rockets leaving the surface of the Earth

F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

I knew Colbert was a fan (thus the link above) but how had I missed the existence of this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSoigRHHNLM

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:50 (eleven years ago) link

Such a great story.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

could not turn that off (meta!)

a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

i think that was the first short story i ever read

it was kind of all downhill after that

a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

And now his house is gone.

http://file770.com/?p=20397

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link

There came soft rains?

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 07:37 (nine years ago) link


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