Next batch of Pixar films after the Monsters Inc. prequel

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And please, for the love of god, may that be the end of their sequel adventures for at least a long while. Anyway:

THE GOOD DINOSAUR

U.S. Release Date: May 30, 2014
Director: Bob Peterson
Co-Director: Peter Sohn
Producer: John Walker

What if the cataclysmic asteroid that forever changed life on Earth actually missed the planet completely and giant dinosaurs never became extinct? This hilarious, heartfelt and original tale is directed by Bob Peterson (co-director/writer, "Up;" writer, "Finding Nemo") and produced by John Walker ("The Incredibles," "The Iron Giant").

THE UNTITLED PIXAR MOVIE THAT TAKES YOU INSIDE THE MIND

U.S. Release Date:
Director: Pete Docter
Co-Director: Ronnie del Carmen
Producer: Jonas Rivera

Pixar takes audiences on incredible journeys into extraordinary worlds: from the darkest depths of the ocean to the top of the tepui mountains in South America; from the fictional metropolis of Monstropolis to a futuristic fantasy of outer space. From director Pete Docter ("Up," "Monsters, Inc.") and producer Jonas Rivera ("Up"), the inventive new film will take you to a place that everyone knows, but no one has ever seen: the world inside the human mind.

UNTITLED DÍA DE LOS MUERTOS

Director: Lee Unkrich
Producer: Darla K. Anderson

From director Lee Unkrich and producer Darla K. Anderson, the filmmaking team behind the Academy Award®-winning "Toy Story 3," comes a wholly original Pixar Animation Studios film that delves into the vibrant holiday of Día de los Muertos.

All about that last one in particular. But I hope the second title stays as is.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm a gonna be first in line for the Dia de los Muertos movie.

"Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

hate loveable dinosaurs

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

What if the cataclysmic asteroid that forever changed life on Earth actually missed the planet completely and giant dinosaurs never became extinct?

already been done, sorry pixar

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

America needs the wisdom of Herman's Head now more than ever

los blue jeans, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Guillermo Del Toro is also working on a Dia de los Murtos animation

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

/Muertos

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've always wanted more inventive animation from inside our bodies after this

abcfsk, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

gonna be a sad day when they give that second one an actual name

balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

I can only hope the Dia De Los Muertos movie is inspired by Grim Fandango

Nhex, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

but Grim Fandango is perfect as is

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

John Lasseter has said that the story “takes place inside of a girl’s mind and it is about her emotions as characters, and that is unlike anything you’ve ever seen.”

actually sounds like cranium command from epcot tbh

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Apparently Henry Selick is working on a Pixar project as well?

Simon H., Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm all about that, whatever it turns out to be.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's for Disney, technically

Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Monsters University was thoroughly enjoyable, as good as the first one.

In bad news, I had to sit through another preview of Planes, Disney's Cars spin off. Horrible. but the Disney cartoon before hand (the Blue Umbrella) was sweet.

akm, Monday, 1 July 2013 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

monsters university was the first movie i took my daughter to, she really liked it and sat through it all and only got antsy at the very end.

hello :) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:11 (10 months ago) Permalink

THE UNTITLED PIXAR MOVIE THAT TAKES YOU INSIDE THE MIND

how's life, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:18 (10 months ago) Permalink

Joy (Amy Poehler), Fear (Bill Hader), Anger (Lewis Black), Disgust (Mindy Kaling), and Sadness (Phyllis Smith)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:19 (10 months ago) Permalink

I don't think I have time for this tbh. Really hope they manage to pull the dinosaur movie back together.

how's life, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:19 (10 months ago) Permalink

Damn, if it was a little boy we could call it HERMAN RISING.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:20 (10 months ago) Permalink

are they still doing a day of the dead movie now that Book of Life got a jump on them?

akm, Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

Barely gave that a skim, because I want to be surprised, but weird that they let that review out so early. Or not, given that Pixar has been so shaky lately.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 May 2015 14:32 (3 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I don't think I have time for this tbh. Really hope they manage to pull the dinosaur movie back together.

― how's life, Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:19 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Eating my words. This was great. Cried a bunch, and I was not alone in that. Loads of laughs too. Very engaging; the first movie that my youngest kid has sat through without a bathroom break.

I still agree with myself that the idea looks dumb. My family had to pretty much drag me in there. The opening short "Lava" was stultifying.

how's life, Sunday, 21 June 2015 00:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

The preview just looks SO bad and explicitly sexist. Can you convince me a little?

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 June 2015 05:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

The preview bit with the mother and father (that also really turned me off) is not indicative of 95% of the film. I really liked it. Though I wouldn't put it up there with their absolute best material, I still cried like a goddamn baby at a certain point, so I have to say it's very good.

Nhex, Sunday, 21 June 2015 05:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

I went back and re-watched all of the trailers right now and they still don't make it look like something I'd want to go see, even though I've seen it and loved it. The movie has a pretty complicated world and the trailers spend more time trying to explain and make sense of it than making it look appealing.

how's life, Sunday, 21 June 2015 09:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

this is going to be our first cinema trip since having the baby

kinder, Sunday, 21 June 2015 12:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

There are no bears in San Francisco.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 June 2015 12:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

NYTimes stinger:

“Inside Out” is rated PG (Parental guidance suggested). Young children may be mildly alarmed in places, especially at the sight of their parents weeping through the last 20 minutes.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2015 13:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

doyy

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 21 June 2015 13:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

there's no ilx presence at all for big hero 6, how odd

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 21 June 2015 13:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

I thought it was pretty underwhelming, though it looked great.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

The short film before the main feature was treacle worthy of enhanced interrogation technique; it looked great though. As for IO, it was rare for a movie -- any movie -- to suggest that happiness and sadness are essential components for a full life.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

Man, some friends on Facebook yesterday were saying Lava was alright, but then others shared opinions more in line with this thread. It was then that I realized the people who liked it were those with kids who have to watch Dora the Explorer every day.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

It's the sub-Stephen Merritt ukelele strummer that wrecks the thing. Like I said, conceptually and visually it's a coup.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:36 (2 months ago) Permalink

NYTimes stinger: _“Inside Out” is rated PG (Parental guidance suggested). Young children may be mildly alarmed in places, especially at the sight of their parents weeping through the last 20 minutes._

--Josh in Chicago

Completely accurate.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

Only redeeming quality for me was that the islands were ostensibly Hawaiians and were portrayed by Hawaiian voice actors. I'd bet that Kuana Torres Kahele did his own strumming, sub-Stephen Merritt or no.

Interesting that Disney's used Hawaii as a setting before and is apparently doing Hawaii again in the very near future.

how's life, Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

LOVED this

wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

Movie was great (my son I think liked it a touch less than his parent's did).

LAVA song totally infectious schmaltz.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 21 June 2015 15:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

So excited to see this with my girls when the older one comes back from camp.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2015 16:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

Get ready for the tears

Nhex, Sunday, 21 June 2015 16:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

there's no ilx presence at all for big hero 6, how odd
we talked about it a bunch on another Disney thread, can't remember which one though

Nhex, Sunday, 21 June 2015 16:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

big hero 6 was okay, just a bit over calculated

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 June 2015 17:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

AiSF otm about the lava song

wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 June 2015 18:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

BIG HERO 6 was a big hit with my kid and while it's imminently watchable for adults, I do agree that it's extremely lightweight. Pixar is so far ahead of what anyone else is doing (while okay except for the Fantastic Mr Fox) it's almost unfair to compare.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 21 June 2015 23:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

i will likely now see this movie due solely to this thread so score one for you
preview is just so so bad

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 June 2015 23:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

there's no ilx presence at all for big hero 6, how odd

― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 21 June 2015 13:50 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought it was pretty underwhelming, though it looked great.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:10 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah. also didn't follow through on any of the flagged endings afaicr

gristly adams (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 June 2015 23:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

Lava short reminded me of a Pixar parody concept a friend had -- its exact inverse -- about a lonely man living in his Igloo, until one day he chips enough ice away to see that there's a more competent girl in an Igloo next door. And he wants to join their Igloos.

Cunga, Monday, 22 June 2015 01:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

this was so good

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 22 June 2015 02:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

Amazing movie. Pop Culture Happy Hour folks pointed out that it's a movie with no villain, which is unique, especially for a movie for kids. I cried through much of it - probably the most draining movie I've ever seen (but i only recently became a total softie).

OTOH, Lava was lame. Usually they showcase some new animation trick with their shorts, but I didn't see anything like that. And the song and "story" were completely flimsy.

schwantz, Monday, 22 June 2015 03:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

And the kids loved it too! I think the name/marketing campaign really blew it for this movie.

schwantz, Monday, 22 June 2015 03:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

yeah the marketing on this has been terrible but imo it's the strongest complete Pixar offering since ratatouille. The gender stereotype stuff falls with a wet splat and there's some meandering in the second act but tremendous performances and the emotional beats are all direct hits. Not a dry eye in the house by the end and it's well earned.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 22 June 2015 03:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Pop Culture Happy Hour folks pointed out that it's a movie with no villain, which is unique, especially for a movie for kids.
unless you count the inevitable disappointment of life, which is another truthful accuracy this movie should be applauded for

Nhex, Monday, 22 June 2015 04:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

Totoro

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 04:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

Kiki's Delivery Service too - even Ghibli films with an antagonist don't tend to have a villain.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 June 2015 11:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm really glad that Inside Out had no villain, since it's something you don't usually see in a lot of childrens films. Alot of Pixar movies tend to do the thing where a character befriends the leads, and then turns out to have sinister motives and betray them, and I respect Pixar for not returning to that well.

MarkoP, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

i saw lava last year and yeah, way insipid. nothing wrong with kt kahele (tho "ukulele sucks because indie rock" is one of my favorite ilm looks) but i never wanna see another love-powered resurrection. it's like being dramatically punkd.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

maria and cyrus went to inside out the other night and i totally didn't go because of the trailer! bad trailer! oh well. i could still go i guess. rufus hasn't seen it...

scott seward, Monday, 22 June 2015 18:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

you would get a kick out of it i think, scott, it's super satisfying as just a really long, funny index of thought patterns

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 22 June 2015 20:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

old school trolling

Nhex, Saturday, 27 June 2015 20:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

In lieu of the mysteries and wonders of life, instead of big dreams and big fears, in place of the cosmic sense of childhood infinity that Terrence Malick thrillingly got at in “The Tree of Life” (the best movie about a child’s inner life that I’ve ever seen),

I had no idea TTOL was a Pixar cartoon!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2015 20:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

Brody is good sometimes, but this is definitely example of one of his worst tendencies: walking in with rigid, somewhat bizarre pre-conceived notions (in this case about the emotional lives of children) and then tearing a movie to pieces because it offers a different perspective.

intheblanks, Saturday, 27 June 2015 21:11 (2 months ago) Permalink

I kind of would love to see him direct a response film based on the ideas in his column

intheblanks, Saturday, 27 June 2015 21:15 (2 months ago) Permalink

seeing this tomorrow. one person I know said it was the only pixar movie in years he didn't cry at; seems completely at odds with what everyone else's experience has been. but he is kind of a drunk and young.

akm, Sunday, 28 June 2015 03:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

I don't cry at movies, still liked it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2015 03:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

I liked it ok, "didja have to tell kids their imaginary friends will die someday?" is pretty mild as far as my kid movie grumbles go. I'm not sure kids enjoy whimsical self-analysis and metaphors about the need to accept pain as much adults do - already heard about a three year old who thinks the movie is about a robot "because she had people in her brain!" But I was entertained.

da croupier, Sunday, 28 June 2015 04:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

Hated lava, though - what an expensive video for such a shitty song

da croupier, Sunday, 28 June 2015 04:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

I didn't really cry at this one, but it's probably because all of my islands of personality have crumbled into the canyon.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 29 June 2015 01:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

Uh, I guess a three-year-old may not grasp it, but it's not hard to imagine the premise and execution being compelling for, say, a 9-year-old.

intheblanks, Monday, 29 June 2015 02:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

I didn't really cry at this one, but it's probably because all of my islands of personality have crumbled into the canyon.

Same, kind of underwhelmed.

Joy was such a condescending jerk (in the beginning, but that was sort of the point).

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

Also: San Fran-stinktown.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

Disgust's animation and faces are great though.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

i didnt like this bcuz they kept putting the protagonists in one desperate situation after another and they got stupider and more desperate and then the way they finally got out of the final one was such a dumb deus ex machina and it was really frustrating and stupid like the toy story 3 furnace scene 10x in a fucking row and lava was fucking stupid too.

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

yeah but the abstraction chambere

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

disgust is so stupid why does that get to be an emotion and not like... ANY OTHER EMOTION PEOPLE FEEL. it was just a way to shoehorn in mindy k so dumb.

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

Pixar could've added Gay and cast Adam Lambert.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

well it is interesting to note that when they went into the parents heads the emotions were all the same gender as the mom and dad but riley's were BOTH GENDERS omg pixar blowin my mind rn

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

I like the part where Bing Bong killed himself.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

fuck richard kind

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

have to admit I wept like a baby at the end of this, my wife is still teasing me about it, but the wish to leave my son with more happy than sad memories is a very strong and fraught feeling for me.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

i also realize this movie is for babies so its ok that i didnt like it but im so sick of this ITS FOR ADULTS TOO hype bullshit when it is clearly NOT

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

I probably wouldn't choose to watch this independent of children, but there is definitely a poignancy that I can relate to as a parent of a child the same age as Riley.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 29 June 2015 21:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

Are you quoting a 16 year old or is that your actual opinion

da croupier, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

Lol xpost

da croupier, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

16 year old me wasn't into richard kind either

Cory Sklar, Monday, 29 June 2015 21:55 (2 months ago) Permalink

i was... underwhelmed by this. even some of the best pixar movies have climaxes that feel, if not perfunctory exactly, then kind of rote. "inside/out" felt a lot like that for much of its length. the inventiveness of the premise did not extend to the mechanics of the action. it also had that problem where it kept making up new rules for the world of the film, to the point where it began to feel quite arbitrary.

that said, there were lots of little clever bits, such that i rarely didn't have a smile on my face. i liked some of the character designs a lot, even if they weren't that original. ("disgust" was the weak link in all respects.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

also: poor, poor bing bong :(

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

of course, that whole changing-the-rules-every-five-minutes goes double for some ghibli movies. and it gets a little irritating in ponyo and, to a lesser extent, howl's moving castle. but in general the ghibli films are so fucking inventive and weird that i don't mind. (on a side note i rewatched kiki's delivery service last week and i think that might be the stealth best ghibli movie?)

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

i put totoro / kiki / porco rosso / laputa on the same pedestal

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 June 2015 22:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

what about nausicaa??!

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:00 (2 months ago) Permalink

Manga version blows Nausicaa away.

Falconetti Pot (Leee), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

otm, after reading the books the movie became nigh unwatchable for me, except muted as just something cool to see in the background.

a mallomar full of chamillionaires (Doctor Casino), Monday, 29 June 2015 23:36 (2 months ago) Permalink

leee otm

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

basically all of the "lone girl versus / as-a-manifestation-of the unknown or semi-supernatural" films (nausicaa, howl, spirited away, ponyo, mononoke) are good and occasionally great but not upper tier

actually, add "the wind rises" to the top five up there; i'd be hard pressed to rank them beyond that though

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

otm, after reading the books the movie became nigh unwatchable for me, except muted as just something cool to see in the background.

― a mallomar full of chamillionaires (Doctor Casino), Monday, June 29, 2015 6:36 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

challops!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

(you're welcome btw)

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 00:43 (2 months ago) Permalink

I'd been looking forward to seeing this one with my kids. Finally did tonight, and ... pretty disappointed. Reminded me a bit of one of those EPCOT pseudo-educational film before-the-ride movies, but stretched out to feature length. Not boring, just sort of functional. At the same time, it didn't seem quite fleshed out well enough to support its running time - a lot of the movie was just this not terribly thrilling "we need to get the x to the y!" race - though I did love the central conceit of sadness and joy being equally vital components of growing up. And I'd much rather something minor like this than a "Monsters U," no question. But at times I flashed back to "Monsters Inc.", and how wonderfully that movie handled somewhat similar subject matter, yet in a much more creative manner than what this one attempts literally.

Other random thoughts:

1) Design-wise, I actually thought it was pretty uninspiring for Pixar. The main characters were a bit like boring Muppets, and all the little sub-Minion tic tac characters were sort of missed opportunities.

2) I try to see most Pixar movies in 2D, but this felt like the first Pixar movie that really seemed like it was trying to be 3D. Like, lots of things flying at the screen, playing with perspective or otherwise seemingly designed to make the most of 3D. Sort of distracting.

3) I cry at virtually every movie I see with my kids. I love the experience. I probably even cried, most recently, at "Jurassic World," since I love watching them watch movies so much. But weirdly I did not cry at this one.

4) Was surprised at how not funny it was. In fact, early on they use the old "Be positive!" "OK ... I'm positive this is a bad idea" groaner. And then they do it again! And I can't believe they threw in a lame "Forget it, Jake ... " "Chinatown" gag.

5) How long was Riley at the new house? A few days? And jeez, wouldn't that house go for, like, $10 billion dollars in San Fran? Or is that the bad part of town?

6) Bing Bong also seemed like a missed opportunity. And as my older daughter pointed out, shouldn't he have made a fleeting appearance in the opening montage of formative memories?

7) Joy was pretty condescending, wasn't she? She was basically Leslie Knope.

7) The nightmare music was the music from Disney's "Haunted Mansion" ride!

8) I would watch an entire movie about the inner lives of cats.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

on a side note i rewatched kiki's delivery service last week and i think that might be the stealth best ghibli movie?)

we just went thru a Miyazaki festival and, yeah, I agree.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:17 (2 months ago) Permalink

"Kiki's" is great, one of my older daughter's faves. Also, some great Phil Hartman in the English version.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 02:25 (2 months ago) Permalink

the moment where hartman comes back and says "I'm here too Kiki!" is the moment i determined never to watch a dubbed miyazaki again.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

kiki is (of course) a very early miyazaki dub, none of the others are that obnoxious

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

(assuming that the fox totoro is out of print and wiped from memory)

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 03:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

Spirited Away > Kiki > Howls > Ponyo > Mononoke > The Wind Rises > Totoro

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 04:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

i like the fox totoro! the vhs one right?

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 04:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

kiki is (of course) a very early miyazaki dub, none of the others are that obnoxious

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, June 29, 2015 10:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought that there were two dubs, one for the first theatrical release, and it was re-done for the DVD/Blu-Ray. maybe i'm mixing it up with a few other films. (yes, i /know/ there was an original, botched american release of nausicaa as "warriors of the wind." i'm talking about disney re-doing a few english dubs.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 05:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

More than most need to know:

http://animeenglishdubreviews.blogspot.com/2009/09/dub-review-kikis-delivery-service.html

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 12:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

I saw the Japanese version of Kiki last week at a screening – marvelous.

Spirited Away > Kiki > Howls > Ponyo > Mononoke > The Wind Rises > Totoro

― Norse Jung (Eric H.)

otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 12:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

Totoro deserves more love

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 13:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

Was Sadness supposed to resemble Velma from Scooby Doo?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

she wasn't a lesbian.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

kiki > mononoke > totoro > spirited away > ponyo > howls

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

grew up with the fox totoro, never seen the disney one but fiercely partisan anyway

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

Princess Monolake.

:wq (Leee), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

i like the fox totoro! the vhs one right?

oh yeah i like the fox totoro too, i just forgot to acknowledge it when criticizing the disney kiki

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 23:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

Liking anything more than Spirited Away is fucking insanity.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 04:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

spirited away has never been my favorite miyazaki film lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 04:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

kiki > mononoke > totoro > spirited away > ponyo > howls

otm except i don't rate howls

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 04:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

you can't put totoro at the bottom of a spectrum

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 04:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

It's infantile and cloying.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 05:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

Eat shit and die.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 05:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

that's the ghibli spirit!

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 17:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

I haven't seen any of the Pixars since Toy Story 3 and was kinda thinking that I was over them, but this was wonderful. The mixed genders of the emotions in Riley's head (as opposed to the uniform gender representation in the adults) struck me too; the subtle suggestion that we only take on firm gender identities while in the process of growing up is typical of Pixar at their brilliantly subversive peak (see also, the critique of the "graduation" in The Incredibles). I teared up a good four or five times, which isn't something I normally do--I'm thinking the combination getting married yesterday and my accompanying some children to the movie (it was my friend's three-year-old's first time seeing a film in the theater) had me in an unusually (and appropriately!) vulnerable emotional state. I suppose that I could share the above gripe about the so-typically-Pixar move of overdoing the peril, but I also credit the film for its constant invention--the film never coasts on its premise, but rather keeps finding new ways to explore it (the "abstract thought" scene...wow).

Beyond that, I laughed, partially in amazement, at the joke about bears in San Francisco, and groaned at the Chinatown reference while at the same time being somewhat impressed that a children's film in 2015 even bothered making a reference to Chinatown. And I loved the fact that I was watching what is essentially a family version of a Charlie Kaufmann script.

Lava looked pretty, but I may have been a bit more susceptible to its brand of corniness had the song not reminded me cringingly of Jack Johnson (the beach-bummmy singer/songwriter, not the guy Miles Davis wrote the one album about).

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

the song reminded me of "Hey Soul Sister."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

Song reminded me, musically and thematically, of Josh Ritter's "The Curse."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

(see also, the critique of the "graduation" in The Incredibles)
oh god no RUN AWAY

Nhex, Thursday, 2 July 2015 03:05 (1 month ago) Permalink

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

(xpost)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

been reading some interviews with the songwriter/director of Lava (who - not coincidentally - happens to be the president of Pixar), trying to figure out if he wrote the shitty song first and then decided to make a video for it, or decided to make a video and wrote a shitty song for it.

answer:

http://khon2.com/2014/11/03/5-questions-with-disneypixars-lava-director-james-ford-murphy/

I’ll never forget the first time I heard Israel Kamakawiwoole sing “Over the Rainbow.” It was on an episode of “ER” that I was watching with my wife. I immediately recognized this song from one of my favorite films, “The Wizard of Oz,” but when I heard Iz’s version, I was reminded of the love affair I have with Hawaii and it instantly reignited the powerful connection I feel for the love I shared with my wife there in 1989.

So when it came time for me to develop short film ideas I thought to myself, what if I could write a song that makes me feel the way that song does, and combine it with the love, admiration and powerful connect I feel to the Hawaiian islands.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

dude spends like four years on this thing with an amazing team of animators and apparently never once thinks he should maybe bring in someone to help with the SONG

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

After LAVA was green-lit for production, for one year all I did was listen to Hawaiian music as I searched for the perfect Hawaiian singers for LAVA. Not only did I become a connoisseur of Hawaiian music, I also learned about the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards and festival. As soon as I found out about this festival, I immediately convinced our producer Andrea Warren that we had to go because all of the musicians I was interested in were going to be there, and this would be our opportunity to see, hear and meet who we wanted to work with on LAVA.

...We also hope that in some small way, our film can help expose more people to the incredible musical treasure trove that is Hawaiian music.

whhhyyy couldn't he have outsourced the songwriting though, whyyyy

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

that song is to hawaiian music what this song is to japanese music

except, you know, less good

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

I’ll never forget the first time I heard Israel Kamakawiwoole sing “Over the Rainbow.” It was on an episode of “ER” that I was watching with my wife. I immediately recognized this song from one of my favorite films, “The Wizard of Oz,” but when I heard Iz’s version, I was reminded of the love affair I have with Hawaii and it instantly reignited the powerful connection I feel for the love I shared with my wife there in 1989.

song is the rotten fruit of a mauna kea beach wedding

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 09:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

iz's music is often beautiful, no idea why they didn't just license one of his tracks

also very disappointed none of you watched kittenbus

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

wait, was there actually a link to watch the video? i didn't see it

Nhex, Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

ahem

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

i've warmed to totoro in recent viewings but Eric is right, it's vastly overrated - infantile, cloying and a little bit boring/uneventful? the totoro themselves don't seem to have any impact on the main plotline.

Whereas Howls is very underrated.

And Kiki's is just so great. I prefer the sentiment a whole lot more than Totoro.

cod latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

totoro is about coming to terms with having a new sibling, fears of losing your mother, sitting on the cusp of childhood and losing the hallucinatory magic of young wonder
kiki is about transitioning into young womanhood, new responsibilities and puberty
i've always seen them as part of a continuum.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 16:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

Howl is justly rated. I was going to say that Ponyo is underrated but honestly have no clue what the ILX hivemind thinks of it or how regular people rate it in the Ghibli canon.

:wq (Leee), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

a little bit boring/uneventful? the totoro themselves don't seem to have any impact on the main plotline.

as a kid i watched totoro over and over and over but i made up an alternate plot, more elaborate on each pass, where mei was a secret agent sent to assassinate her mother who was also a secret agent

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

anyway sorry still not over i heard that iz song on e.r. and i run an animation studio so i thought why not pay powerful homage to the time i fucked in a hotel

A free screening will be held this Friday, Nov. 7, at the IBM Building Courtyard in Ward Village.

i was in this building the other day looking at the gorgeous scale model of the highrise development that's replacing the old international marketplace and i'm glad they have something to play now in the attached lava-furnished cinema besides the endless loop of a 5-minute video where construction executives compete to see who can most frequently remind you "o'ahu" means "the gathering place"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

some lovely stuff in ponyo, especially when the town floods: the tethered boats floating above the houses like balloons; the kids rowing through the canopy. great eerie kid-adventure stuff. only saw it once but remember being less into the magic liam neeson plot or the mechanics of ponyo's origin and peril. definitely lower-tier but when i saw it a little kid behind me stood up after the lights came up and announced "miyazaki never disappoints!" so it is hard for me to criticize.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:05 (1 month ago) Permalink

infantile, cloying and a little bit boring/uneventful?

i love the quasi-stasis of much of "totoro"!

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

Ponyo was his first genuine crossover right? That's the one my cousin's kids watch on road trips. They know every line. And they are not an art house family.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

I always thought Totoro was the early crossover, at least in that I've seen the most Totoro figurines, art and stuff toted around by kids. Which is still not much, but the Totoro cat is the only bit of Ghibli iconography I come across with any frequency.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

a few of the ghibli films that didn't do big theatrical box office stateside ended up becoming big hits on video over the course of decades, so it's hard to say what was a "crossover"

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

ponyo felt pitched at a younger audience than spirited away/howls (and obv than the dismbemberment-heavy mononoke) so it's where i'd expect kids who didn't grow up w totoro/kiki to discover ghibli

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

miyazaki was pretty clear that ponyo was designed for younger viewers than the average ghibli film

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

Also of course it's a little gross to judge a Japanese filmmaker's "crossover" on whether it does well in the US.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

i thought that was the explicit context here though

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm surprised nobody's started a studio ghibli thread - sure seems to be enough people interested in the subject.

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

there are like ten ghibli threads, no?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

Oh well then you know where to go when you want to rank and debate their movies

da croupier, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

ebert pushed totoro on fox video early in 1993, that's the generally acknowledged first american crossover
http://www.dramafever.com/news/roger-ebert-is-why-you-like-miyazaki/

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

didn't realize ponyo had a following at all; I wasn't thrilled with it, don't remember it getting very good reception either.

akm, Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

i loved Ponyo, but also surprised that so many here did see it - it didn't have a huge theatrical showing in the states IIRC

Nhex, Friday, 3 July 2015 00:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

it seemed to get about as broad distribution as any ghibli film has gotten in the US

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

Favourite Miyazaki film

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

“Pixar has created a stable of films for children that is founded on narratives of self-actualization—of characters branching out, embracing freedom, hitting personal goals, and living their best lives. But this self-actualization is almost exclusively expressed in terms of labor, resulting in a filmography that consistently conflates individual flourishing with the embrace of unremitting work…. The natural and profitable ideological by-product of this fixation is an abhorrence of collectivism—and therefore organized labor.”

http://www.theawl.com/2015/07/the-pixar-theory-of-labor

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah but ... at least the robots are doing all the work in WALL-E.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 17 July 2015 16:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

ha, that article is nutso!

Nhex, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

"Although he causes all this, and at no small cost to his daughter’s mental health, Riley’s dad is not depicted as a villain."

Well because he's not a villain... but he is presented as being pretty tone deaf and self-absorbed.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

Ned is totally right at the top of this thread, I liked Inside Out fine but would have LOVED it if they'd released it as "THE UNTITLED PIXAR MOVIE THAT TAKES YOU INSIDE THE MIND."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

Well because he's not a villain

I don't know if he's exactly a villain but I think the movie makes it pretty clear that the sequel to this is Riley grappling with mom and dad's divorce in <3 years, whether or not Pixar actually produces it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

Hard to believe they'd leave that money on the table.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

I dunno, plenty of their "prestige" titles don't get sequels, there's no "Further Up" or "Wall-F"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

That article isn't crazy, but it isn't very good either.

No, the relationship between father and son in Finding Nemo does not resemble management how-to literature, because in management how-to literature there is no room for the emotional freak-outs that strongly mark close relationships. No management book anywhere tells anybody to drop everything and risk your life to find a lost employee.

No, you shouldn't expect American pop movies to make arguments for socialist collectivism, although that bit at the end of Nemo where all the fishes are urged to swim together in the same direction, overriding their own individual panic motions, just to avoid being captured - that seemed kind of commie to me, fella.

No, the abhorrence of Woody becoming part of a box set in Toy Story 2 is not a rejection of collectivism (LOL) but a rejection of collector-fetishism and the enshrinement of childhood playthings as high-priced collectibles, and at its best from the toy point of view, a rejection of safety in favor of the danger of love. Aw.

No, actually, Whole Foods, like most upscale food places, caught on to the whole "local" thing a while ago, and consumers who care can buy more local products if they want, not that that makes it all wonderful or anything.

What's really weird about this article is that the author avoids the obvious and objectionable Ayn Rand-y type business in certain Pixar movies (especially The Incredibles).

Vic Perry, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

Number None, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 17:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

i don't care for the animation style for the characters and have a long held antipathy for the anachronistic mix of humans and dinosaurs but THOSE BACKGROUNDS THO
http://www.comicscube.com/2011/06/comic-book-glossary-masking-effect.html

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah, the whitewater rapids is the most stunning bit of animation I saw in that trailer. Character design is positively goofy, though.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

We're getting two full-blown Pixar releases in one year? That's kinda nice.
Foliage and rocks look amazing, and I'm fine with the character design.

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 05:01 (1 month ago) Permalink

like as far as i'm concerned that is a movie about beautifully realized gravel

I have a friend whose day this comment will make

kinder, Saturday, 25 July 2015 18:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

the music hurts to listen to

The Once-ler, Saturday, 25 July 2015 19:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

let your friend know i'm looking forward to paying money to see A+ tufts of grass and dust physics

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 July 2015 00:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

How come nobody brought up Porco Rosso in the Miyazaki debate?

the man who posts like Sam Smith sings (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 26 July 2015 18:34 (1 month ago) Permalink


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