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so yeah man this show

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm only a few episodes into season 1 thus far, loving it. owenf is kindly waiting for me to finish the season so we can jointly start s2

i was surprised at how much i already care about the characters--the deck crew cheering when they realized it was starbuck in the cylon ship gave me a little charge. just watched ep6 'litmus' and it was the first moment that kinda clanged for me; sorta didn't buy that everybody was down with the commander shutting down the tribunal by fiat. clearly the ~audience~ knew there was nothing to the master at arms' line of questioning, but as far as they were concerned he was telling them to stop asking questions as soon as the question got difficult, idk.

really looking forward to the rest of the season.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

looking forward to you guys hating this soon

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:53 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ key post

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

S1 and S2 Baltar is some of my favorite shit ever

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

the characters/casting is unimpeachable, every actor so stronglly tied to their characters in my mind even now, and evoke such strong feelings. Agh! So great.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

envious of u guys

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Baltar is so deranged. I love that he's this semi comedic yet really important character. The looks that commander Adama gives him are absolute gold.

Least favorite character is Apollo. He's got a bit of a Tom Cruise thing going on which irks me a little. But that's being particularly harsh.

owenf, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I call Apollo Bambi Jam

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

started this a year or two ago -- it was fine, but i petered out about midway through season one

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

"litmus" (the DID YOU OPEN THE HATCH COMBING episode, right?) is iirc the worst thing in s1

a dorky cliche i used to be super into was hotshot space pilots and i'm pretty sure this show is the best ever hotshot space pilot thing.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

it does seem strange to watch this in the post-war-on-terror era. at the time this was like the only TV show that seemed to grapple seriously with post-9/11 sorts of traumas/issues

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Apollo gets really, really good as the series goes on. I won't spoil anything, obvs, but at one point he's got a line reading consisting entirely of "Gaius Baltar?!" that's like the greatest thing ever.

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do not agree with that assessment. sub-Tom Cruise is OTM afaic.

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Gaius Baltar?!"

is it like jim mora saying 'playoffs?!'

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's better!

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Apollo improves with time. Takes a while for him to not seem like the stereotypical whiny-rebellious captain's son

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

And he gets more handsome.

Helo is the handsomest IMO. We are talking about Battlestar ws's right, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, more handsome except for that brief no wait no spoilers.

Grace Park is all-time ws territory.

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

it does seem strange to watch this in the post-war-on-terror era. at the time this was like the only TV show that seemed to grapple seriously with post-9/11 sorts of traumas/issues
--Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier)

Yeah I mean there was a moment where they show all these p obviously 9/11-style memorial/missing posters on the ship and I was like "I wonder if this was *moving* in 2003 instead of heavy-handed"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I doubt everyone will get this ref but I keep thinking the aesthetic reminds me of the game Wing Commander 3.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol I just that passed that on to Mr Veg who said u r otm, Hoos :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Delete the first 'that', ffs

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

p. sure it was still heavy-handed, but hey it's sf. and a far better response than say, 24

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I kind of hate all the cheering bits tbh

JoeStork, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Def

p. sure it was still heavy-handed, but hey it's sf. and a far better response than say, 24
--mookieproof

Def

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey Laurie and I are right about where you are Hoos, we are also digging it. She hates Baltar though and calls him "penis man", as in "led around by his...".

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

To be fair to Gaius, I'd roll the dice with the future of the human race to get with Caprica Six.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Otm

the smash-cut w/timpanis at the start of every ep, what's that about? Idgi

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

^

ugh I know, you get the little 'they have a plan bit' then the 'last week' then the bit of actual real show (with no indicator of when it's started) and then the title, the the timpanis and episode spoilers.

there are a LOT of cheering/back slapping moments.

Not entirely sure how down I am with 'frack' yet. Don't think I ever will be.

owenf, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think the first season there were a lot of characters that were aggravating and irritating that i warmed to in future seasons. boomer being one of them.

sarahell, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

and Mary McDonnell is so PRESIDENTIAL.
She should be in first lady to Martin Sheen in something.

owenf, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

'a'

owenf, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked her assistant

sarahell, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

he hasn't had much to do so far really. Hope he gets a more substantial role. He seems like a nice chap.

owenf, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked the boomer/assistant
"he's a freedom fighter" "he's a terrorist" argument.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

baltar's a pretty neat trick in this, but i am old and still have fond, dimly remembered memories of baltar in the original

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh jeez shades of the Crazy in madam prez thinking Adama is a cylon, the way her voice shook while she wore that bathrobe & fretted.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love baltar a lot btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Watching this w/headphones is intense btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

do the headphones have 9-11 trauma issues?

sarahell, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd kinda like to play along, but i don't think i'll be able to keep up to speed

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

well part of my quick clip atm is that i'm unemployed and watching 2+ eps a day on hulu

lol

btw speaking of hulu, is anybody watching the ""hulu original program"" "battleground"? it's basically 'the office' set in a state senate campaign office. kinda fun, lightly wonky.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i haven't watched any of The 4 Best Dramas Of The Last 25 Years

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

we need you get you some free time, mookie

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 02:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think some of my favorite scenes as it goes on is with all of them getting lit up on hooch. That really brings out the angst, especially in the old fellas.

If they are all sitting around drinking, get ready, it's getting ready to throw down.

earlnash, Friday, 6 April 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

opening poker scene with Starbuck and old grizzleguts is one of my faves

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh, i have free time

i just do little worthwhile with it

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Starbuck is my fave x 10. Is she the obv all-fan fave?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 03:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Carl is my fav

Jeff, Friday, 6 April 2012 03:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Doesn't the "they have a plan" opening change as the show goes on?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 03:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Carl is my fav

awwwww

mookieproof, Friday, 6 April 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Saul Tigh pretty much steals the show even if drunk and surly is pretty much M.O. He gets some of the best scenes the whole series.

earlnash, Friday, 6 April 2012 04:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks to Tigh 'gods dammit' lives forever in my cursing phrasebook

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 04:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Was kinda disappointed that the big meeting to hash out wonky political questions turned into "nominate a vice president, then incongruously party." major lol @ bangin the reporter in the bathroom. The mad scientist being vp with prez's looming expiration date is interesting but also kinda says something's gonna come along to shift the trajectory of some things--there's no way he winds up president. I think.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 04:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda surprised there was no #occupygalactica meme

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 6 April 2012 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha yeah when zarrack is on screen I keep finding myself thinking "occupy galactica" and kind of wanting to stick up for the guy who's obv a ~masses fooling populist~

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 04:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

at occupy's trending-topic height i'm sure i saw adama's face somewhere, i mean george takei was tweeting about occupying arrakis for a while there.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Friday, 6 April 2012 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

"So Say We All" via human mic

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 6 April 2012 05:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

damn what a season finale, coup and two shots to the gut, goddamn

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

starbuck going into hysterics seemed weirdly out of character tho imo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

brace yourself, hoostein

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 06:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I keep thinking the aesthetic reminds me of the game Wing Commander 3.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, April 6, 2012 12:08 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw here i'm just thinking like



BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol that i watched the first season in 2 days btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

you're gonna need a 12-step when it's over, son

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 06:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

so owenf i am all caught up

when do you think you'll be prepared to launch s2?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Doesn't the "they have a plan" opening change as the show goes on?

it does, but not for the reasons you would hope

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

the last couple seasons are kinda dire

sarahell, Friday, 6 April 2012 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

*shhhh*

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyway ur RONG

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

man that was FAST. I'm good to go when you are.

owenf, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha i mean its all on hulu and i'm unemployed, so

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can think of no finer employment, hoos :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

except the paying kind of course :/

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha

ok so i guess i'll watch s2e1 tonight

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

2+ per day? Man, I had season 1/2 DVDs from a friend, got the flu, and smashed through 6 - 8 hours for three days. Also, I had a fever.

mh, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha that's what i did with the wire

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know more people who cruised through this en masse - Battlestar-athon - than did nearly any other show. Even when it takes a turn toward the not nearly as good as the first two seasons, it stays seriously compelling. You've got some good stuff coming up.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ok guys I'm goin in

Holy hell @ opening

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

2+ per day? Man, I had season 1/2 DVDs from a friend, got the flu, and smashed through 6 - 8 hours for three days. Also, I had a fever.

did this when I had an ear infection and gobbled down codeine. it was kind of great.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

yup, and sure don't forget to watch Razor, i think it was after season 2 ends?

Nhex, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^^ this

yep, I think it fits in as 2.5 iirc

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh shit guys

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lol @ totally unbelievable young Adama/tigh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also ew @ new "home called earth" opening overlay

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know, the reveal of 'earth' playing a part is basically crushed into indifference with that at the beginning.

Tigh's HAIR

owenf, Saturday, 7 April 2012 09:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm really hoping that eventually Tigh will do something fucking insanely heroic at some point. I bet he goes out in some sort of awesome self sacrifice to save Adama.

owenf, Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

trying to work out the fx for this show too. What was on that was comparable in terms of budget and fx? Space battles look pretty awesome but I'm always a bit disappointed when I see a Cylon (robo version).

owenf, Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

CHIEF NEEDS A RAISE

owenf, Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

couldn't bring myself to finish this by the end

༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

CHIEF NEEDS A RAISE
--owenf

And a promotion

Realest of talking.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

chief is <3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 18:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reading about you watching this is making me v. v. happy. I love this show so much. (ALL OF IT.)

carl agatha, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Only a Cylon spy would love all of it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ put this guy out an airlock tbh

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Only a Cylon would suggest that. Clearly, you should go out the airlock!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

(Show in a nutshell^)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am a cylon spy masquerading as a cylon spy masquerading as an airlock and I love ALL this show too (except for the last few scenes of the last ep)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are Dee and Billy going to have that on/off dynamic for the whole of the show?

owenf, Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

TELL HER YOU LOVER HER MAN

owenf, Saturday, 7 April 2012 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha, I just remembered that the miniseries, and I think one of the early episodes, had a version of the kid Boxey from the OG series. Moore and co. must have been like, "LOL fuck that, nobody liked that character ever and this is not a show about little kids."

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Saturday, 7 April 2012 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, he was on some of the deleted scenes, i think. they eventually decided to just cut him out altogether

Nhex, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

what idiot let 'Crashdown' head up a mission to Kobol. Tempting fate.

owenf, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

you gotta admit that's a pretty awful callsign to take

Nhex, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

hotdog would trade though

owenf, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha hotdog nepotism.

Jeff, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hotdog is EJO's son IRL FYI

carl agatha, Sunday, 8 April 2012 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey hoos/owenf

did u start with season 1 proper, or the miniseries?

if you havent seen the miniseries go back & check it out when you get a chance, it's worth it.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

miniseries is the "true" beginning of the series

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp yeah, though 30/Water is way more exciting, it's still worth wathcing just to see the setup

Nhex, Sunday, 8 April 2012 06:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah we both watched the miniseries first.
Thinking about, it works really well to have it in this format. The big 'event' that forces the journey in a chunk and then ramp it down a little for the bulk of the show. Ideally it could end in some big miniseries showdown!

owenf, Sunday, 8 April 2012 08:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

what idiot let 'Crashdown' head up a mission to Kobol. Tempting fate.
--owenf

Seriously fuck crashdown

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

dude is way too pale to be a leader

owenf, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rewatching mini series atm: lol'ing at Six's space-hooker clothes

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dude who plays Crashdown= Vader's secret apprentice in the Force Unleashed games.

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty sure the newer dvd/blu-ray sets and all online streaming versions actually put the miniseries in with season 1

mh, Monday, 9 April 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was under the impression they were still being sold separately, glad I'm
wrong

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was worried because there was some insane amazon deal for the whole series box set and I was pissed that it didn't say it included the miniseries, but it's the first disc in season one.

mh, Monday, 9 April 2012 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

yay!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

so um

if the vice president was just rescued in the midst of a cylon firefight

why do they have martial law instead of a new president

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 08:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

doc going hardman was kind of great

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 08:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

does tigh become a character you actually like at some point?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 08:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

ellen is such a lady macbeth

there are too many fucking lady macbeths

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 08:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i actually said "fuck yeah" to my laptop when tigh finds out the workers are striking

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 08:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

does tigh become a character you actually like at some point?

Yes, definitely.

We got my parents into this show, and bought them the DVDs for Christmas for a couple of years as they were being released but they have still never seen the last season. My mom says she can't deal with the show ending.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 April 2012 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tigh is one of my favorite characters of the show by the end!

mh, Monday, 9 April 2012 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think it's safe to say you're going to be seeing a lot more shades of Ellen and Tigh by the end of the series

Nhex, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tigh easily one of the most consistently compelling characters on the show

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

They really move him from semi-washed-up and sparring with Starbuck into a dude with a lot of heartache and loss (no spoiler). hoos and owen have a lot to look forward to

mh, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just started watching this. took me awhile...but i had to get through all of friday night lights, sons of anarchy, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc... plus all those macgyver episodes with the kids....plus we just started watching xena together and we have like 121 episodes to go there...

but i am enjoying. it makes me sad in a weird way, which is what sci-fi that i like does to me.

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

but i better not read this thread...seeya.

scott seward, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Shirt for a hoos:

carl agatha, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

<3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

damn yall "the farm" was dark as fuck

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had to immediately watch "earth part 1 &2" to get it outta my head

so claustrophobic and unsettling

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

man chief seeing caprica-boomer w/helo was heavy shit

also "and you ask 'why'?" made my eyes get huge

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Home I and II, not Earth I and II.

And yes I kind of hate myself for correcting that.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

that

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

"that error" I guess?

I hate myself
for correcting Hoos.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha no i just meant like "yes, that, what you said, is what i meant to say"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

<3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Back atcha, fella.

ANYWAY Home is an awesome episode. "And you ask why?" is great. I also think Kobol is pretty and creepy.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm a little confused about why nobody brings up the argument of settling on Kobol? Is it because there are cylons there? What's not to say that Cylons don't follow them all the way to earth?

owenf, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's because Kobol is cursed? Also they are hoping to get away from the Cylons.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's a good point--are they looking for earth because of its mystical historic properties or just cause it's a planet with water and shit that they can live on?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

also cylon 6 in sweats + a ponytail fuckin w/doc was hilars

"I'M NOT CRAZY"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kobol's cursed. also the Cylons know where it is

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

that part of the plot kept making me think of this:

sarahell, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

are they looking for earth because of its mystical historic properties or just cause it's a planet with water and shit that they can live on?

a little of both. also the promise of a planet inhabited by humans would provide the hope of a support structure etc

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

man "final cut" was great. lucy lawless! some characterization for gaida, even if it was kinda goofy! loved the cylon dogfight shot entirely from inside galactica. lol'd at adama's "yessssss" fist pump.

and the little twist at the end was a nice surprising touch.

good show, good well paced ep

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

they kept a lotta balls in the air at once

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

So you're on season two? Coming up on my two least favorite episodes in the whole series, Black Market and Scar.

Jeff, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 11:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dude.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wait never mind! I misread Jeff's post and though the said favorite, and then I thought he was fucking with you.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is Black Market the pretty much universally acknowledged nadir?

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

I believe so.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

black market was like a DS9 episode oddly misplaced into BSG, almost goofy. no, for me the nadir of the show is that boxing one in S3.

Nhex, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's incredibly insulting to DS9.

Jeff, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey, i love DS9, even above TNG, but come on, there were some wack episodes on that show

Nhex, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

it was a bad episode. even Moore said as much. leave DS9 out of this >:(

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

fine fine. for some reason i was thinking about those O'Brien goes undercover the galactic mob episodes. but seriously SISKO 4 EVER

also, scar is nothing compared to that boxing episode

Nhex, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Looking at the Moore/Braga-led Star Trek series and then seeing what they've done since... well, I think we know who was the weak link after comparing BSG to, um, Terra Nova.

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Scar is not so bad. the boxing episode and the black market episode are horrible, but I'm hard pressed to say their actually "worse" than what happens at the end of the series.

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

they're

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I kind of liked the boxing episode

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

I did too.

Jeff, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

best to not talk further about eps they haven't seen yet tbf

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

me three

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

leave DS9 out of this >:(

Further evidence of your greatness.

The boxing ep is Unfinished Business, right? That ep will always hold a place in my heart because of the score. Violence and Variations is probably my favorite piece of music from BSG. It's a variation of "Passacaglia" from S1, but it's my favorite variation.

I don't mind Unfinished Business on its merits, either. I'm also not as annoyed by Scar as Jeff is, but it's not my favorite. Black Market is the one episode I'll always skip when I rewatch the series.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah Black Market just...everything about it is not good, compared to the rest of the series.

Bear McCreary's music for this whole show is A+
I dunno if I've ever been THAT taken with a score before. He makes good choices.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes! I sometimes listen to the whole score (as in all four seasons in a row), and I also have a playlist of my favorite songs for when I don't have that kind of time.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

also cuet

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol my ex-girlfriend's mom loved BSG and we got her the score albums for christmas one year

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

where are you up to hoos?

owenf, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

about to watch "flight of the phoenix" and "pegasus" which will put me halfway through the season

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pegasus is good shit

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

y'know, of the handful of characters they didn't revive from the original series (Casseopea, Boxy etc), the one I really wish they had revamped was Lucifer.

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man Pegasus is great.

owenf, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

The great thing about Pegasus is it's a story thread straight from the OG series, and has some similarities, but ends up going to some VERY different places.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

yep

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

oooh Pegasus. give us the reax!

Nhex, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw the only part of "final cut" that rang hollow for me was how big their camera/mic setup was

phones and shit

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pegasus is badass I love it so much

Commander Kane RULES

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Gaeta's bit in 'final cut' made me lol. Apparently those interview sections were improvised by the actors.

owenf, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

loved "phoenix," that look that adama & sharon share right before she gets taken back to the brig is heavy shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh shiiiiii

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

about to watch 'resurrection ship pt 2' holy shiiiiii

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is some damn fine television programming

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda felt like apollo not dying was a cheap bait-and-switch

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

not to drop any spoilers but you may want to keep the phrase "cheap bait-and-switch" copied to your clipboard for a number of future episodes

I DIED, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm also watching this show for the first time, almost through with season 3. disappointed so far. the multi-ep arcs are usually brilliant, but the standalone eps (most of them) are mostly pointless. sometimes a pain to get through. definitely shouldn't have had 20+ ep seasons. the boxing episode was the tipping point for me.

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

and when i say "(most of them)" i mean most of the eps are standalone, not most of them are mostly pointless. they're all mostly pointless.

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah the black market episode felt like CSIBSG down to the lol lighting

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

here comes scar

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

and yeah like the prostitute with the heart of gold who we'd never heard of and all the hinting at this never-before-referenced-but-suddenly-relevant-backstory-that-we'll-likely-never-hear-of-again was just oof

just don't like apollo tbh

would watch a show abt starbuck

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha the timpani spoilers on scar

starbuck spars!
starbuck makes out with a dude!
starbuck flies!
starbuck drinks!
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

"you want my ass so bad you can taste it"

uh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

just realised this is all on demand and now i want to watch it

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 05:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked that one!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 06:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've been watching on hulu, and they've only got up to s3 for free, so i should prob get DLing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 06:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

i understand that midseason eps tend to be weakest & wheelspinny in any show but "IS SHARON A THREAT" "no sharon is an asset" is getting kinda tiresome

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 06:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Show is even better if you watch it knowing that the actor playing Apollo is Australian.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

He and his sister are v.v. attractive and good at American accents.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is she the chick from Damages?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yep. She's also currently a regular on Once Upon A Time.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

> Show is even better if you watch it knowing that the actor playing Apollo is Australian.

not according to imdb

Born: Jamie St John Bamber Griffith
April 3, 1973 in Hammersmith, London, England, UK

(i only looked that up as he was also in L&O:UK and didn't have any hint of an accent)

american father, northern irish mother, spent some time in france, italy. cambridge university...

koogs, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Potato, potato.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

How often are there UK productions that feature Americans doing British accents? Or Australian productions with Americans acting Australian?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Gillian Anderson does a lot of BBC costume dramas these days but it's not common. Probably cos the money is better in the US

Number None, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

O man, normally would think above woman is banging but now I can never not see Apollo

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am almost finished with this series after watching it sporadically for the last few years. Down to the last few episodes. I won't give any SPOILERS, but I will say that for the last 10-15 episodes I have gotten increasingly irritated to the point where I'm only watching it now to see how it ends. A few twists and turns too many, it gets tiresome. Still, a fine show overall. It's just always hard to keep something going over more than a few seasons.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ would probably have to agree. I still have this huge affection for it, though.

kinder, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

^
^ i feel roughly the same way. was watching the last, well, season just to see how things played out. the last few seasons had so many more misses than hits that am more ambivalent about it tho.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do not feel that way. I thought everything was great. Maybe not the last 2 minutes or so, but the journey there was awesome.

Jeff, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm with Jeff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

they really cinched the pipes when they shut down megaupload, i'm sort of frustratedly impressed.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm with VegemiteGrrl and Jeff.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

what? man, just hoist the mainsail and go over to the bay

mh, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

right right

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think I even liked the boxing episode, though it's been a while. The very end felt like a big ol' fuck you though.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 12 April 2012 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

finished dl'ing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 05:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

whoa those last two eps of season 2

so much cray

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

good politinerd refs too, lol'd @ "there he goes again" and i totally got goosebumps when Chief did the 'bodies upon the gears' speech

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

love that they managed to make apollo look instantly older & frumpier by giving him a crappier haircut

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

so like

the whole nuke thing was a long-term trap?

a way for the cylons to talk the humans into settling down & feeling safe so they could go all overseer on them?

but i thought sharon & 6 talked them into being enlightened machines, what's that about

galactica-sharon also conspicuously absent from new caprica

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 10:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

its gotten so i can tell how much i'm gonna enjoy an episode by the drumline spoilers

reaction shot!
reaction shot!
innocuous action!
making out!
reaction shot!
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I always had to skip those.

Jeff, Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i totally got goosebumps when Chief did the 'bodies upon the gears' speech

Props to you and Shakey for making me aware of that speech in the first place on the Occupy threads. When I heard it I was like, "Hey! It's that thing!"

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 April 2012 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

ooh you're up to new caprica
managed to make apollo look instantly older & frumpier

you're about to get a fun surprise on this front

mh, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ oh god yes

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

major kudos to Jamie Bamber on that, too.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

the January Jones of the last decade

sarahell, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

new Caprica Apollo is some of the funniest shit in the show

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

beardo Chief! <3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

nu-caprica pirate tigh is my favorite tigh

I DIED, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

damn this is like a whole other show in season 3

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

the season 2 conclusion/twist is so audacious, there's only one other moment in the series (imho) that hits that same level of narrative daring

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Shakey Mo playing voice of doom itt

:)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

eh you know what moment I'm talkin about

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Starbuck/Adama sex scene?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

let's just say some teeth get brushed

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

j/k

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man, Exodus 1 and 2 are great.

Jeff, Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Exodus 1 and 2 = awesome

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't remember how season 3 starts, is it 8 MONTHS LATER?

mh, Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't remember how season 3 starts, is it 8 MONTHS LATER?
--mh

It's 4 months after the Cylons showed up, so one year four months after settling on New Caprica.

Also fuuuuuu at firing squad

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok. SO. Important.

Adama's moustache is WAY better in the final ep of season 2 than the first ep of season 3.

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Real talk

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Trying to figure out why Chief shaved between episodes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

nu-caprica pirate tigh is my favorite tigh

― I DIED, Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

MORE LIKE CAPTAIN BIRDS-TIGH AMIRITE

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I find it kind of hard to take Chief seriously. I think it's his face. He just looks so nice. Every time I see him I just think 'Oh Chief'

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also lol @ "go panthers" "cbucks rule"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, Tyrolpaws

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Simultaneous firefights awww yeah

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also I wish we could have seen Chief and Cally's relationship actually happen. It kind of devalues the fact that she forgave him/said she liked him if we don't get to see the awkward build up where they adress the fact that he beat the shit out of her ('Oh Chief') rather than just going YOU KILLED MY GF - I BEAT YOU UP - I LIKE YOU - PREGNANT. Maybe we'll get some flashbacks or something.

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol space sports.

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I get that, their relationship is 90% unfulfilling whining on screen

mh, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Btw this happened a few eps back but I thought Baltar-in-Six's-Head was a nice touch.

Can anybody help me fill in the blanks on how the cylons coming to N-C was a part of Sharon/6's whole "repentant cylons" deal and why they suddenly seemed to lose all their clout as soon as they got there?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

is apollo wearing a fat suit?

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes he is

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

so funny

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I settled for that shriek! Those dull vacant eyes! The boiled cabbage stench of her! And why? Because this is my life!"

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man watching a show where suicide bombing insurgents are the good guys fighting ostensibly well-meaning imperialist occupiers must have felt even crazier in 2005.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

^
FOR REAL

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hate the "last time"s where they dub in lines that totally didnt get said in the scene.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Had a look on wikipedia a few episodes back and there are some super cool sounding deleted scenes but had to stop reading due to spoilery stuff. Looking forward to analysis when it's done.

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

'last time on...' dubbing is bad in every show. I can never understand why anyone thinks it's a good idea

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

makes it really confusing especially if you're watching a lot in a chunk. I'm constantly thinking I've missed an episode

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm pretty sure the last "last time" actually had a deleted scene?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

man Tigh can be totally fire & brimstone poetic sometimes

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that."

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can anybody help me fill in the blanks on how the cylons coming to N-C was a part of Sharon/6's whole "repentant cylons" deal and why they suddenly seemed to lose all their clout as soon as they got there?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, April 13, 2012 12:31 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

They were hoping to co-exist, but they went about it the wrong way. Hoping that occupation would somehow win the hearts and minds because obv there was a lot of distrust from the human side as they did wipe out their 12 planets of people. Maybe it only makes sense in the context of Iraq though, but you're right, it felt pretty amazing at the time. War of the Worlds and *maybe* Munich aside, Hollywood's attempts to address the issue were so bad that it felt like BSG was pretty much the only place in American culture really interested in exploring it.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

loose lips sink raptors Chiefy

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man watching a show where suicide bombing insurgents are the good guys fighting ostensibly well-meaning imperialist occupiers must have felt even crazier in 2005.

This absolutely accounts for a great deal of the show's contemporaneous appeal, and why so many of my friends otherwise not interested in sci-fi bought into this. Though of course the series does not sustain the parallels, to its detriment.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dang I thought they were gonna sustain the New Caprica thing for a season or so, they got outta there way faster than I figured.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

And they even changed the intro titles back! What a cheat.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

shooting in nu-cap was $$$$ and they just had no budget. but the Galactica jumping into the atmosphere was A+ worth it imo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I actually said "ballsy!" to my screen

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 02:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

man so these first two eps after exodus felt like they could largely have come out of a dark swath of season 2

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

this thread makes me want to watch all this again. if it wasn't for the 20 other dvds in front of the tv...

koogs, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i didn't hate the boxing episode! filled in some gaps for me, though i could have done without adama's weird bloodied speech.

kind of hated kat

thank god starbuck has short hair again

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

War of the Worlds and *maybe* Munich aside, Hollywood's attempts to address the issue were so bad that it felt like BSG was pretty much the only place in American culture really interested in exploring it.

― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, April 13, 2012 1:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man i remember being disturbed as fuck by war of the worlds

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

thought that starbuck's new ink was some sort of cylon tagging system. Took a while to realise it was her boyfriend's sports bro tagging system.

owenf, Friday, 13 April 2012 07:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hated kat too.

Jeff, Friday, 13 April 2012 11:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

TV critics Alan Sepinwall and Maureen Ryan have nice recaps/analysis of BSG eps if you are interested. Not spoilery and I really like their insight.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

link?

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 13 April 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

man i am totally not interested in this lucy lawless character at all

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 April 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

also lol @ gaius beardtar

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 April 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lucy Lawless character gets mired in the kid mythology stuff and it's annoying. In honor of this thread I watched the Exodus eps again last night. I almost forgot how creepy/sleazy the cylons were -- Leoben and the attempted weird manipulation of Starbuck, the Cavil using Ellen, the mythology thing.

mh, Saturday, 14 April 2012 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

i still can't get over the degree to which the new caprica arc felt like a whole different (maybe better?) show

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw kinda rmde @ the drug that put baltar treading water in the ocean just in case there weren't enough neon signs saying THIS IS ABOUT WATERBOARDING

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 April 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

man i was really hoping the general strike would be a two parter

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

but i was also hoping they'd occupy the factory so

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 04:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i still can't get over the degree to which the new caprica arc felt like a whole different (maybe better?) show

^this!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh right so we're looking for earth and shit, we forgot for 10 episodes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

better in part bc no matter how much praise this show receives the spaceship sets are still dorky

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

just noticed that the number of survivors in the titles is changing

i figured it must have been, but til now the fluctuations had been too small for me to notice

admiral bluffing is kinda getting old; we've never been given any reason to believe he would be totes ruthless, but we have plenty of opportunity to see him act like he's gonna be ruthless and then pull back. it just makes for lower stakes the next time he threatens to execute so-and-so bcz you've got no reason to think he'd actually do it.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

love the fact that a hoos and owenf are living out a Portlandia sketch.

i need to watch this all in a row.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 05:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha yeah i saw that sketch last week

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

really liked these last two eps of the season--i would not have pegged those 4 in a million years, and cool of them to leave one of the final five out.

still don't really get 'all along the watchtower' as the cue

totally bought the whole trial, p plausible and satisfying. baltar's "real" voice was a good moment, irish (lol) lawyer walking away without the cane was a nice touch.

wtbuck

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have been totally slack in watching this the last couple of days. going to catch up tonight and tomorrow evening. Exciting. Wish baltar was was s2 baltar though.

owenf, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

still don't really get 'all along the watchtower' as the cue

bites tongue

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think anyone who likes the series as a whole probably avoids talking about that in conversation

..except for maybe some ultrafan who has lyrics airbrushed on the back of a t-shirt next to portraits of the final five or whatever

mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know s10cki disagrees but the Watchtower inclusion is the shark-jumping moment of the series imho

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i mean the way it was revealed was cool, but when you realize what it actually is you're like '............................................'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't believe it took me all of 30 minutes to grab s4, the Bay is exceedingly fast

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

still don't really get 'all along the watchtower' as the cue

I've seen the whole series and still don't get the cue. I'm not one to point out shark-jumping moments in shows, but ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

that whole reveal sequence was pretty awes imo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

SPOILERS

Bob Dylan is the 5th Cylon

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahah

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I caught up with viewing by the time they started the whole final five reveal thing, I think. It'll be interesting to see how hoos and owen react

mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, for the rest, obviously we know about this part

mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

The sky ain't yellow, it's Cylon.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

ahaha

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

totally have 1 crush on racetrack btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 16 April 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

just finished S3. for a couple days i was like "ugh can this thread just catch up to maelstrom so i can talk about starbuck" and then y'all are talking about revealing four cylons and i'm liek wtf.

moore or whatever (already forgotten the wiki entry) said that, um, a colonies musician also wrote all along the watchtower and they were singing that. um. i don't think he's really internalized how much of a stretch that is. when i put it together, i assumed that it meant the cylons were somehow aware of earth and its (pop) culture, which would've been a lot more interesting than "we forgot to write some dummy lyrics whoops"

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 08:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

would totally watch "law & order: colonial fleet" just for the apollo/romo chemistry

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 09:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I will hold my comments on the use of All Along the Watchtower in the show until later, but I will say now that I really hate the version of the song that they use in the show. It's so cheesy. Bear McCreary's brother sings it and his voice and delivery reminds me of every bad open mic wannabe singer songwriter ever.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Where are you now? Have you watched The Hub yet? That's my favorite episode.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

hoos, I haven't seen it, but apparently Jamie Bamber was on Law & Order UK! unfortunately no romo :/

mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Apollo and Helo both ended up on Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse," the former as a guest star and the latter as one of the lead characters.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

man i just watched "revelations" and i feel like i could just stop there, that episode was so good and wrapped up so many loose ends

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

This show is so good it compels you to watch until the end even though you know in your heart you should quit while you're ahead.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

man i just watched "revelations" and i feel like i could just stop there, that episode was so good and wrapped up so many loose ends

that was the "other" moment I was referring to upthread that's similar to the Cylons arrival on New Caprica. and it COULD have ended there, but they opted to fuck things up even more.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda wish I'd stopped watching at revelations tbh.

Clay, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

really wanted to see Apollo's Law & Order: London, but I never saw it come on BBC America

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda wish I'd stopped watching at revelations tbh.

so say we all

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

probably would have been a perfect end point, but there's some good shit coming up imo.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

"oh are you the president again? i find it hard to remember your job on any given day"

otm

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah the role reversals get pretty tiresome, particularly with Apollo, Baltar, the Chief...

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

also i love how you can tell what role apollo's playing today by what outfit he's in

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Some of my fav episodes are after Revelations

Jeff, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

"the oath" & "blood on the scales" were *great*

6 episodes to go holy shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol @ me

lol @ funemployment

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was so goddamned pissed at Gaeta after those episodes. He did what he thought he had to, but what a waste.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

There were some "webisodes" That give some backstory on the origins of Gaeta's coup, The Face of the Enemy.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

really wanted to see Apollo's Law & Order: London, but I never saw it come on BBC America

it is literally like watching old original law and order - same exact stories re-used - but with britishes, council estates, barristers with wigs, etc.

so, somewhat ok.

j., Wednesday, 18 April 2012 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

He did what he thought he had to, but what a waste.

― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:44 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i mean imo its p rich for baltar's chief of staff to lecture anyone about dereliction of duty, resistance mole or not

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

once we got past the prison ship ep zarek never did anything but annoy me, so

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 02:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really thought i knew who the last of the 5 was and kinda felt cheated when i was wrong

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Who were you guessing?

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 04:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

roslin

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 04:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

actually totally forgot who the fifth was so i had to look it up

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 04:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

"GAIUS BALTAR?!"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

at one point he's got a line reading consisting entirely of "Gaius Baltar?!" that's like the greatest thing ever.

― Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:38 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

:D

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 09:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

this was a high quality television program

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

owen sorry for kinda getting off to the races there, i just picked up momentum this past weekend and had to get it done

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

ended the way i thought it would in most every respect

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Note: Do not make the mistake of watching Caprica now, it is ridonculous.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

It had potential, but never had a chance.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda harsh, but then i never finished Caprica either... it had some good stuff going for it, though

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

We finished it, but yeah. I agree that it had potential and I wish it would have gotten a couple of seasons.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have three episodes left in the series, and it's so frustrating because it DID have potential, but they wasted so much time on nonsense, and character motivations were not just inconsistent but completely contradictory from episode to episode.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

As noted above, as soon as it begins to veer from parallels with current events, and increasingly toward theological realms, it begins to fade. Still compelling, but the fire gets dimmer.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha!
i had to look up the final five aswell.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked the batshit theories people were coming up with before the reveal. You know, like Adama is a cylon and Lee and his bro were actually hybrids

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

heard a number of batshit theories that were much better than what actually got presented on-screen.

resolution of Starbuck's storyline in particular made me want to stab, so stupid.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can I just say I hated the hit job the show did on Callie, particularly w/r/t the provenance of her child?

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like, fucking HOTDOG? Are you kidding me?

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

callie was always kinda crazy, let's be real

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

crazy like a fox

Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

The hot dog Callie thing was some serious retconing. Ron Moore admitted So.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i admit, when it was actually happening i was like laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Even I don't believe this bullshit."

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

one of the things that most irritated me was how the series gradually abandoned all of its precepts about cylons - they have a "plan" (er, no they don't), they can't reproduce (er, well, some can!), they can't die (well they can now that we blew up their resurrection ship!), models share memories/experiences (only when it's convenient!), they have some secret understanding of the theological underpinnings of the universe (eh, not really)

just uuuurgh so lame

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am probably the only person to rep for the series Caprica, but with the caveat that you have to pretend it is completely unrelated to BSG because whenever they mention anything that ties the two it's a weak point.

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah but a fun ride xpost

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked Caprica too -- at least as much as some of the stuff in the last two seasons of BSG

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

BSG and Lost both failed miserably on delivering the mythology they promised in the beginning - so is it possible to create a popular show like this that doesn't have a promised mythology? Would people have kept tuning in to both shows without the Cylons having a plan or whatever the smoke monster bullshit was?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's possible for these sorts of shows to deliver on mythology if they didn't rely on our own mythology to tidy things up. But I think going all God-y mostly serves as a major hedge and controversy deflector. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

George R.R. Martin famously bashed/spoiled "Knowing," "Galactica" and "Life On Mars" with Writing 101, kids. Adam and Eve, God Did It, It Was All a Dream? I've seen Clarion students left stunned and bleeding for turning in stories with those endings.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

there's also the issue of being faithful to its origins, maybe. even on the first viewing, i had minor cringes when language/plot points got too close to LOLMormonism

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

resolution of Starbuck's storyline in particular made me want to stab, so stupid.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didn't really find it all that unsatisfying, though i'm not sure why. cavil's ending was way more unsatisfying.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think going all God-y mostly serves as a major hedge and controversy deflector. I mean, even Harry Potter celebrates Christmas.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:37 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk felt pretty hand-wavey to me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i'm not disagreeing with you at all i guess, i was just sorta nonplussed

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

i kinda liked that moment in the CIC where it finally all comes to a head and gaius & six go "...that's it? that's all you wanted us to do?"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

LOL, yeah, Cavil just like, "Welp, time to top myself! Bye!"

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

this was the worst part of the entire series.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cavil offing himself was worth it, imo

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

he was the best cylon

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

at least Cavil's suicide was FUNNY. The Starbuck thing was just nonsensical.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

All the revelations about Cavil and Ellen make her shenanigans w/him on New Caprica like 1,000x more skeevy.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

like... she's a ghost/angel? that didn't know she was a ghost/angel? and spent months and months agonizing and acting crazy over this fact? also has a ship that came out of nowhere? also interacts with others/kills people/has sex etc like a normal person? just waht

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

absolutel atrocious. "the dancing robot is going to murder us all! unless...." insert Ronald D. Moore cameo.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hoos, owenf did you like it when Adama talked about THE MAIN VEIN?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

what about his angry teethbrushing

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

also - PIGEON

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

GET IT STARBUCK IS LIKE A PIGEON

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean, "he's stuck with the bird" worked for me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was most frustrated at starbuck's back and forth between teeth-gnashing insanity and old-school hard-nosed competence

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

also the actual sound of tory's windpipe getting crushed was a little much i thought

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

but yeah i mean in a certain annoying sense the heads being 'angels' is a frustratingly literal deus ex machina

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

But what was your favorite part?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

favorite emotional bit of the finale was boomer's "i've made my choice"

the epic as fuck space battle was pretty rad

also reveal of the moon was pretty good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

for favorite moment of the show its probably the new caprica arc and any low-drama space battle involving starbuck trash talking and shooting at shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

also "GAIUS BALTAR?!"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

"It's all God's plan."

"You know he doesn't like being called that."

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

any time Adama and Starbuck would do the "What do you hear?" "Nothing but the rain." = A+ moment

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

my favorite part may have been when Gaius was hallucinating (?) talking with himself

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I still really dig this series, which is kind of shocking considering its best episode is probably its first.

It was fun watching it as it went on because of Moore's commentaries. He was always pretty upfront that they didn't really know where it was going from season to season. Also there was an episode (Black Market, maybe) where he basically apologised and spent the entire commentary explaining how it all went wrong from conception to writing.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

read in one of those interviews on a blog that moore said "six in times square was an image we'd had and liked for a long time, at least two seasons" and i was like "............................................"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked the first reveal of head gaius too, and gaius/six talking to head six/head gaius and going "you can hear her/him?" to each other was a+

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

"All Along the Watchtower" was something he'd wanted to use since his days of writing for Roswell.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

also the first time the interior of a cylon ship was shown, with Sharon meeting all her copies and planting the bomb. that was a great moment.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

the epic as fuck space battle was pretty rad

There were so many!

My favorite part was in The Hub when Roslin pulled the pressure bandage off Baltar (and then put it back again).

Sharon meeting her copies was awesome.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

the whole athena/helo arc, both those characters in retrospect wound up being so great--so much of the show they were just sorta workhorse characters for action scenes to get hung on but their stories resolved maybe better than anyone's imo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

they were at least fairly consistent characters

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

and obvs galactica jumping into the atmosphere of new caprica with vipers hauling ass out was one of the raddest moments

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Starbuck got raptored, then she got raptured

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

they were at least fairly consistent characters

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:53 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that's part of what i mean--in retrospect they seemed almost more like real people than anyone else

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

starbuck for most of this season was reminding me a lot of buffy in season 7 of that show--a confident character suddenly shown in nearly-constant hysterics and then whipped back to hypercompetence at a moments notice when the plot needed it, and not always in ways that made sense for the inner life of the character

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

and obvs galactica jumping into the atmosphere of new caprica with vipers hauling ass out was one of the raddest moments

yessssss

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

best part

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, that and the battle in the nebula were like the absolutely HOLY SHIT moments

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

watching so much of this show with headphones gave me a really nice sub-bass boom on every jump, and the one on new cap was ~huge~

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh I rewatched that episode right after you mentioned that because the new caprica rescue was one of my favorite bits

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, other than the Callie rescue bits because she was already being written as a paper-thin liability at that point

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Callie was one of my favorite characters!

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked the Jack Ruby-style assassination scene

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like when shows don't feel the need to resolve all plot threads, but having weird directions like Starbuck not being a Cylon yet definitely having died being not-explained with "oooh, spooky, mysterious God?" was horrible. :(

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

right the obvious out would have been to have Starbuck be the 5th cylon but nooooooo

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think they thought it was way too obvious, and so instead of doing that they were just like "uhh... surprise it's not Starbuck!"

"If that's me lying there, then what am I?!?"

Leoben running away symbolizes the writers

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was also really hoping that the flashbacks the four known cylons were having on the nuked Earth were going to culminate in a flashback to the final five at a concert or being in a band playing the song.

"The song that switched us on... I played it. For a woman I loved"

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Leoben running away symbolizes the writers

lol

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

also lol at rock concert flashback scenario

absolutely hate the retconned implication that Dylan "channeled" All Along the Watchtower from previous generations of humans thousands of years ago or wtf-ever. so terrible.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I want a painting of the final five rocking out, similar to that ridiculous one of Star Wars characters in a band

Tigh is on drums

mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lee ramming Pegasus into a Cylon basestar. Fist pumping good.

Jeff, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tigh is on drums

Tory on bass duh

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

You mean these guys oh wait

http://dirtysdiatribe.blogspot.com/2010/03/official-final-five-band.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I played it… for a woman I loved.

Oh my LOL I forgot about this part. Hahahaha that's up there with THE MAIN VEIN for best worst quotes.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

the eternal love song that is All Along the Watchtower:

"There must be some kind of way out of here,"
Said the joker to the thief,
"There's too much confusion,
I can't get no relief.
Businessman they drink my wine,
Plowman dig my earth
None will level on the line, nobody offered his word

"No reason to get excited,"
The thief, he kindly spoke
"There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke
But you and I, we've been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late"

All along the watchtower
Princes kept the view
While all the women came and went
Barefoot servants, too

Outside in the cold distance
A wildcat did growl
Two riders were approaching
And the wind began to howl
*buisness man there, drink my wine,
Come and take my herb.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i liked the Jack Ruby-style assassination scene

― sarahell, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:36 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

and yeah the main vein made me lol in my bedroom at 4am

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

i am on episode 1.07. includes the phrase "No more Mr Nice Gaius". i laughed.

koogs, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha! I enjoyed that line as well.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

high point of the series in some ways

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I finally finished that last three episodes of "Caprica" the other night. That was a bunch of bullshit re: the Adama family, that was.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes but STOLTZ

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sometimes STOLTZ is not enough.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd pay money for just a show with that butler robot they had and Stoltz

mh, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

SERGE

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

so i've watched all of season two in pretty much the last week

So you're on season two? Coming up on my two least favorite episodes in the whole series, Black Market and Scar.

so so otm

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk i kinda enjoyed black market as law & order: battlestar

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

terrible, but it's better than law & order: UK starring Apollo

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought Scar was alright though.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 May 2012 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've watched seven episodes today

what a life

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 May 2012 05:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's livin, for sure

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 May 2012 05:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

frackin a

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 May 2012 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had a BG half-marathon last (bank holiday) weekend and watched 13 episodes of series 2 and finished that today with an hour of deleted scenes. the last half hour of the last episode of series 2 is done at breakneck speed.

koogs, Saturday, 12 May 2012 07:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

no joke yo, comparable to the end of s2/start of s3 of buffy in CAN'T NOT WATCH

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 12 May 2012 07:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

what if hoos is a cylon

mookieproof, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

he does have a lot of plans

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

number 77

mookieproof, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

he'd look p good in a red dress

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

not that good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 04:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't sell yourself short gaihoos

mookieproof, Friday, 18 May 2012 04:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

i will be the judge of that hoos

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 May 2012 04:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

am on second half of series 3. quite a drop in quality over the first half but then the first half is probably the best of the entire run. and it's now single episode stories so there's less of that 'just one more episode' feeling.

koogs, Friday, 18 May 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

They go back to story arc p. soon.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

just watched the episode about the striking factory workers. babylon 5 did it better though - dockers were striking pay and conditions. things got violent. captain was ordered by his higher-ups to stop the strike "by any means necessary". so he paid them more and improved conditions.

next major story arch i can remember is gaius as some kind of guru. don't have fond memories of that tbh.

koogs, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

finished series 3. ridiculous.

koogs, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

seven left

let's just say some teeth get brushed

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier)

there really is a lot of teeth brushing wtf

mookieproof, Sunday, 20 May 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha, i had forgot that weird detail

Nhex, Sunday, 20 May 2012 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Some hilarious indulgent actorly moments with adama in the last season, one of them involving crying and paint.

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Sunday, 20 May 2012 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

good moment imo. think he directed that episode but i'm cool with that kind of indulgence.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 May 2012 05:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

got a lot of love for 'the old man'

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 May 2012 05:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

finished it

crying and paint

lol yes

liked it a lot. i guess the worst thing you can do in a book/film/series is make the characters do things out of character, and shit got a little out of hand in the last season, but no biggie. i didn't even mind 'all along the watchtower' except for when someone said 'i can't get no relief'. kinda hoping the actor who played baltar is still walking around with tears in his eyes tho.

the stretch leading up to and after new caprica was hardcore awesome.

where shall i turn for my 42 minutes of closeups now?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

also chief got jobbed at the end

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Srs

Respeck chief

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

just finished. have work in five hours obv.

thoughts

also head six/gaius in nyc & robot montage was dumb

this was the worst part of the entire series.


otfm

-show would've been a million times better if it were 12 eps a season. the one-off eps were mostly 100% useless wastes of time
-i'm generally ok with the second half of s4, but it still feels like it doesn't have to be there.
-putting them on anOTHER earth, also called earth, is the worst copout of all time. basically they only had two choices for a decent ending -- have them settle on primitive earth and become the earth of today, or the twilight zone route of having them find earth to see that we've blown it up -- and they went with BOTH. urhg
-there were many scenes that resulted in me saying "an angel did it"
-the only type of person in this world who would think that "all along the watchtower" is some mythical holy song that bob dylan used his magical holy brain to conjure up from the hands of god himself is the type of person who would choose to look like this

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 09:10 (11 months ago) Permalink

otmfm

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 09:35 (11 months ago) Permalink

hahaha, oh dear.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 12:13 (11 months ago) Permalink

wow I did some googling and that's just how he always looks? Geez, dude!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:03 (11 months ago) Permalink

no reason to get excited
zachlyon kindly spoke

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 14:42 (11 months ago) Permalink

;_; u guys are being mean to Mr Moore

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:25 (11 months ago) Permalink

feel like Ronald Moore is one of those guys with some really good ideas who needs a better collaborator(s) to properly execute them and/or rein him in

all the best ST:TNG stuff came from him imho

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:16 (11 months ago) Permalink

Moore did a series of podcasts throughout BSG that sort of worked as commentaries for each episode. I just tried to find them but it looks like SyFy pulled them? jerks. Really worth digging up if you can find them.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:31 (11 months ago) Permalink

i try not to demand an overwhelming amount of internal consistency from my sci-fi. but it bothered me that it never occurred to anyone 'hey, remember when we injected little human/cylon girl blood into the dying president and it miraculously cured her cancer? maybe we should try that again'

(yeah the first instance was a total cop-out, but still)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:41 (11 months ago) Permalink

Those podcasts were interesting for the background info, but RDM's "Nerd Playboy" schtick with the official scotch of the podcast and cigars was really tiresome.

RDM has helped create my favorite sci-fi TV ever (TNG, DS9, BSG), but I agree that he goes to stupid places when left completely to his own devices (his cameo in the NYC epilogue of BSG, for example).

Also there are a lot of similarities between DS9 and BSG that make me feel like he's not exactly a bottomless well of cool science fiction story ideas.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:59 (11 months ago) Permalink

I say all of this as a Star Trek/Battlestar Galactica superfan who ultimately thinks Ron Moore is a weenie.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:00 (11 months ago) Permalink

;_;

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:32 (11 months ago) Permalink

his cameo was maybe three hundred on the list of terrible things about the NYC scene in order of terribleness

1-299 is absolutely everything about it

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:11 (11 months ago) Permalink

full disclosure VG i probably look more like RDM than anyone else itt so i'm hating myself too

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:12 (11 months ago) Permalink

lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:17 (11 months ago) Permalink

get a haircut spacehippy

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:17 (11 months ago) Permalink

i would but now i have to watch caprica

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:19 (11 months ago) Permalink

He reminds me of the guy from King of Kong.

Jeff, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:58 (11 months ago) Permalink

-show would've been a million times better if it were 12 eps a season. the one-off eps were mostly 100% useless wastes of time
-i'm generally ok with the second half of s4, but it still feels like it doesn't have to be there.
-putting them on anOTHER earth, also called earth, is the worst copout of all time. basically they only had two choices for a decent ending -- have them settle on primitive earth and become the earth of today, or the twilight zone route of having them find earth to see that we've blown it up -- and they went with BOTH. urhg
-there were many scenes that resulted in me saying "an angel did it"
-the only type of person in this world who would think that "all along the watchtower" is some mythical holy song that bob dylan used his magical holy brain to conjure up from the hands of god himself is the type of person who would choose to look like this

Yes to all of this.

I really liked Caprica, but then it didn't get a lot of episodes before it got cancelled so it didn't really have a chance to go off the rails the way BSG did.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:03 (11 months ago) Permalink

ok first half hour of caprica is fucking nuts

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:38 (11 months ago) Permalink

also can we discuss blood and chrome and how utterly pointless it sounds, do we really need a whole series of young adama at this point

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:39 (11 months ago) Permalink

oh this is only the beginning xp

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:43 (11 months ago) Permalink

like what you're watching now are the least insane things you are going to see on Caprica

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:44 (11 months ago) Permalink

Caprica was better than it should have been, but apparently still not interesting enough to not get cancelled. They made some really obvious weird choices when they realized it was going to get cancelled. Montage at the end is kind of a "here's where things may have gone if we had time to develop them."

mh, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:46 (11 months ago) Permalink

Caprica has ERIC STOLTZ so it's great

mh, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:46 (11 months ago) Permalink

I dug Caprica but this thread is mostly me saying over and over that I'm a big dumb stan about pretty much everything so hmph :D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:56 (11 months ago) Permalink

The BSG things that betray Ron Moore's aesthetics rather than his scriptwriting are the.... more questionable

mh, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:59 (11 months ago) Permalink

I couldn't get with Caprica, Stoltz and all. the DO YOU SEE? ethnic parallels were like some sub-Negron Complex shit

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:15 (11 months ago) Permalink

eric stults pitching today for the padres. could this be important??

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:52 (11 months ago) Permalink

only if alfonso soriano is a cylon

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:01 (11 months ago) Permalink

right thread?!
xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:01 (11 months ago) Permalink

and no way would a cylon have as little plate discipline as soriano does.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:02 (11 months ago) Permalink

that's what they want you to think

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

ha ha!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

and they have a plan

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:28 (11 months ago) Permalink

lmao

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 21:45 (11 months ago) Permalink

four or five eps into caprica, BORING

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Friday, 1 June 2012 23:38 (11 months ago) Permalink

i kind of feel bad for owenf for like steam-train-carrying-on, sorry bro

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 2 June 2012 01:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

just reached the break in season 4. had forgotten the planet of the apes ending.

koogs, Monday, 4 June 2012 10:29 (11 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

hey don't work hoos, I'm going to have a mammoth catch up soon. Work based stuff has totally taken over and I couldn't devote anywhere near enough time or attention without feeling guilty.

owenf, Monday, 18 June 2012 14:52 (11 months ago) Permalink

oh, i finished this last night. also watched the 8 minute overview, which shed some light on things.

koogs, Monday, 18 June 2012 15:50 (11 months ago) Permalink

gave up on caprica btw, so boring

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:18 (11 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

can't believe people saying mean stuff about Scar on here. best episode! made me cry a little :(

scott seward, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:58 (10 months ago) Permalink

WORST

Jeff, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:00 (10 months ago) Permalink

no way it ruled how can you not be moved by starbuck's toast to the fallen OH YES SHE REMEMBERED THEIR NAMES THEY ARE TATTOOED ON HER HEART!!!!

scott seward, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:07 (10 months ago) Permalink

I thought scar was super fun

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:14 (10 months ago) Permalink

not as bad as the black market one, but . . .

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:30 (10 months ago) Permalink

i'm making a list now...

scott seward, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

it was so scary!

scott seward, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

I really just disliked Kat.

Jeff, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

But that ended well for me.

Jeff, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

so uh is it generally considered that this show has the worst finale of any "respected" TV drama from the last decade? marathonned this over the past week and a half and enjoyed much of it, but holy shit that was bad

one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 21 December 2012 08:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

So you've never heard of Lost?

mh, Friday, 21 December 2012 13:38 (5 months ago) Permalink

I still like the ending.

Jeff, Friday, 21 December 2012 13:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

mh--very good point. (I've only watched the first season of Lost to be honest)

one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 21 December 2012 20:11 (5 months ago) Permalink

Lost and Sopranos ending far more controversial/hated. This one was just disappointing, but at least there were two weaker theologically-fixated seasons setting you up for disappointment.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2012 20:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

end of BSG was realizing that Ron Moore & co were only incrementally better than his ex-coworker Brannon Braga & co and they're all nerds

end of LOST was like someone shitting in your mouth

mh, Friday, 21 December 2012 20:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

I apologize for this vivid image but I felt that it was really bad.

mh, Friday, 21 December 2012 20:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

Lost and Sopranos ending far more controversial/hated

Sopranos ending is perhaps the best ending of any show in TV history

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 20:38 (5 months ago) Permalink

tbf he said controversial

mh, Friday, 21 December 2012 20:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

I know I just get kind of AlexinNYC "honor the fire" about the Sopranos

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 20:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

surely most people have come around on the Sopranos ending anyway

Number None, Friday, 21 December 2012 20:45 (5 months ago) Permalink

at least The Sopranos were anticlimatic in its very nature

Nhex, Friday, 21 December 2012 21:10 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah wtf the Sopranos ending is the best, only one that comes close is The Shield

one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

we should poll best tv endings ever (Newhart, Sopranos, Seinfeld, M*A*S*H* etc)

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

but as to the two preceding seasons, yeah they were weaker but there was still the occasional worthwhile episode there--the New Caprica stuff was great and perhaps from a better series, season 3 finale was pretty good. tbh the only part of 4.5 I thought was any good was the brief mutiny arc

also i know it's a dead horse but the use of "all along the watchtower" is the corniest shit ever, and that's even before ron moore's fear of what his roomba might do

one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:29 (5 months ago) Permalink

(xp, although yes there should really be a poll)

one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:30 (5 months ago) Permalink

tbh the only part of 4.5 I thought was any good was the brief mutiny arc

I agree - but even this was diminishing returns/rehash of previous storyline

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:32 (5 months ago) Permalink

My feeling is BSG started as a really good sci-fi show (with sometimes clumsy/sometimes effective overlays of Bush-era topicality) and got mired in increasingly nutty Mormon mysticism. (I know Mormon allegory was the starting point for the series, but the more that became the storyline, the lamer the whole thing got.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

Ron Moore is mormon? OG series had way more mormon shit in it, everything in the new one just seemed to be allusions to that afaict

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:39 (5 months ago) Permalink

Glen Larson, creator and producer of the first show, is a member of the Church of Latter-day Saints. He based much of the first series on Mormon cosmology. Was there a concerted effort to move away from that in this version?

Moore: Not specifically, no. I looked at the original series as mythos and the way it dealt with religion as sort of a global sense. I was aware that Glen had used Mormon influences and how he had created the cosmology, but I'm not that familiar with Mormon belief or practice.

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

The BSG finale was better than I expected, given how bad season 3 and 4 were. The action-y moments were good, pretty tense. The very end was incredibly stupid, no two ways about that.

Vinnie, Friday, 21 December 2012 21:43 (5 months ago) Permalink

xp

Yeah, but like he says there, it's pretty much in the DNA for it to have this mystical side(however Mormon it may be). Which was my least-favorite thing about it from the start, and it ended up sort of swallowing the series whole.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:45 (5 months ago) Permalink

the half-assed mysticism definitely destroyed the show. I think the problem was that a bunch of good ideas were introduced at the outset without any real understanding of their implications, and then as the show went on and they realized they weren't going to get cancelled, they got buried under the weight of trying to make up explanations for things that had originally just been tossed off.

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

cylons being monotheistic, for example.

If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

I just recently watched BSG 1/2 in the last week and a half. It became an obsession and drove my family mad, me watching four plus episodes a day. I couldn't believe how ridiculous the Baltar/Caprica 6 scenes seemed at first and how haunting and hypnotic they became as the series drew me in. A+ for the first two seasons.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 21 December 2012 22:43 (5 months ago) Permalink

Cylons and their creepy sex fantasies and mating with humans, that had a few unexplored angles

mh, Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

we should poll best tv endings ever (Newhart, Sopranos, Seinfeld, M*A*S*H* etc)

― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier)

Should probably wait for Breaking Bad to finish before conducting such a poll.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

blackadders always ended well

mookieproof, Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:59 (5 months ago) Permalink

Died/died/became king by mistake/died

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:07 (5 months ago) Permalink

exactly

mookieproof, Saturday, 22 December 2012 03:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

mookie otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 December 2012 06:06 (5 months ago) Permalink

Lost and Sopranos ending far more controversial/hated. This one was just disappointing

i was not disappointed, i wanted to kick the ending into a burning house and then set it on fire fifty more times and then at least chase ron moore around with a torch, not sure where i'd go from there but i think it'd be a fun day

THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (zachlyon), Saturday, 22 December 2012 08:35 (5 months ago) Permalink

also tbh i didn't mind lost's ending cause they just forced themselves into so many corners and none of it surprised me and at least it had its moments (vincent), where BSG's entire last season is just FUCK IT LET'S DO ALL OF OUR IDEAS CAUSE WE'RE SHINY SHOOTING STARS

THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (zachlyon), Saturday, 22 December 2012 08:39 (5 months ago) Permalink


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