The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

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groan

tpp, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

lool

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

'i'm not afraid of heights, snakes, or red-headed women'

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

Is it just me or does KRM look like the unseen hand is doing a five-finger Umbro shuffle?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/M0Jlr.jpg

TRIBAL BRAH

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

Uh? Via the Telegraph:

14.49 Barack Obama is expected to break his silence on the phone scandal this afternoon. Stay tuned for more.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

TRIBAL BRAH

When James Murdoch was a hip-hop mogul

James Mitchell, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

that's lachlan tho, guessing his boutique psytrance label didn't get bought by pops

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

It's hard to tell these wealthy white boys apart, with all their tattoos and suits and board positions.

James Mitchell, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't want someone jailed if they lobbed a bin at my car whilst I was driving it, but I'd definitely want some sort of punishment that would be more than a mild inconvenience to them

if someone threw a bin at a human being in a car i think it wd be naughty but in this case

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert Murdoch is very sad:

We are sorry.

The News of the World was in the business of holding others to account. It failed when it came to itself.

We are sorry for the serious wrongdoing that occurred.

We are deeply sorry for the hurt suffered by the individuals affected.

We regret not acting faster to sort things out.

I realise that simply apologising is not enough.

Our business was founded on the idea that a free and open press should be a positive force in society. We need to live up to this.

In the coming days, as we take further concrete steps to resolve these issues and make amends for the damage they have caused, you will hear more from us.

Sincerely,

Rupert Murdoch

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Grovelling little bastard

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Oh and apparently Cameron had Coulson over for tea or something two months after the latter resigned. Bros, kicking back.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone deserves a third chance

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

hope he's got the same idea of "taking concrete steps" as me

this planit is socked up and dave is a cul ringmaster (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

16.14 Rupert Murdoch is meeting the family of Milly Dowler, the murdered schoolgirl whose voicemail was hacked into by the News of the World, BBC News reports.

"No, really, I insist, please take all this money."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah they seem quite happy to support the super soaraway lying cunt

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

16.20 More on that meeting between Rupert Murdoch and the Dowlers. BBC News reporting that the meeting at a central London hotel was arranged hastily this morning, with the Dowlers told: "Rupert wants to meet you".
They were said to be desperate not to be used as an instrument of spin but still agreed to the meeting. Murdoch was wearing a full suit this afternoon as he went into the hotel, a change from the tracksuits and casual wear we've seen him in this week.

Really, really wish he had gone in in the tracksuit.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

And that ad as it will run:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/7/15/1310742686365/Rupert-Murdoch-ad-001.jpg

WE ARE SORRY plzleaveusalone

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

they should get Morrissey to release "Suedehead '11" for this

she choots, she pah! (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

OK, soz, thxbye.

Mark G, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- that would make the final lines a little...weird.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

16.29 A little more detail is coming from Downing St about Andy Coulson's stay at Chequers in March. He was invited to dinner and to stay overnight as a "thank you for his work" before his resignation in January.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

i smell a slash fiction genre

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

the most terrifying of smells

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

Slash *is* the genre. The term you are looking for is "pairing".

Karen D. Tregaskin, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

sorry K i knew it was badly worded

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

the most terrifying of smells

At the least, rather moist.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

At Dave’s house Andy listened to the message with a smile on his face. Soon enough Dave would know all about the Game. Andy felt himself harden at the thought of what lay ahead for them both, not just tonight but over the weekend to come.

Andy’s hand slipped down inside his pants, grabbing his cock and gently pulling his hand along its engorged length. He moaned at the sensations flooding his body. Preparing for what was to come had made him so sexually charged he could have climaxed right there and then.

Stop that, he told himself, there is still so much to do before Dave gets back, everything must be perfect. Reluctantly Andy released his hand from his cock and went back to work.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Stop that

otm

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- Yeah yeah, docudrama and all, but where's your slash entry?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Chancellor of the SexChequers

Neil S, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

sb'd everyone itt, risk of contagion too great

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Slowly Darragh inched his hand towards the throbbing SB button.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

jesus CHRIST

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

He gasped...

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

lolling like a mf here

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

.. he shouted(xpost), but it was OK, now was not the time..

Mark G, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

amazing

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

was anyone else old/lame enough to be reminded of this

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5939909003_69e5d33aab_z.jpg

this planit is socked up and dave is a cul ringmaster (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

The perfect thing is that Murdoch's referenced two-thirds through!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

17.24 Mark Lewis, Dowler family solicitor:

"It was a private meeting that had been called for by Rupert Murdoch and he was humbled to give a full and sincere apology to the Dowler family.

"We told him, the Dowler family told him, that his papers should lead the way to set the standard of honesty and decency in the field and not what had gone on before.

"At the end of the day actions are going to speak louder than words. Thank you."

He went on to say, when questioned over Rupert Murdoch: "I think he was very humbled, I think he was very shaken and sincere. I think it was something that has hit him on a very personal level that it shouldn't have happened.

"Yes, he did apologise, he apologised many times. I don't think somebody could have held their head in their hands so many times to say they were sorry.

"It was a heartfelt and what seemed to be a very sincere apology."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

"Share values keep dropping, you have no idea how sorry I am!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

sepukku or he don't mean it imo

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Probably saving that for Tuesday.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Would be interested to know the size and nature of Brooks' golden parachute.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

i have just reached a point where i'm sick of hearing about this. yes please punish everyone who broke the law but i'm just never going to care about it as much as the ppl writing the newspapers obviously (and understandably) do

tpp, Friday, 15 July 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

Actually thinking about Murdoch being all apologetic to the Dowlers makes me think about the opening of Snow Crash where it's clear the pizza mogul does not like having to go out and apologize for late delivery.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

We've been caught.

The News of the World was in the business of catching other people. It failed when it came to not getting caught itself.

We are sorry we've been caught.

We are deeply sorry for the hurt we as individuals have suffered by getting caught.

We regret not acting faster to prevent ourselves being caught.

We realise that simply apologising won't change the fact we've been caught. But it might start to give the corrupt politicians and policemen we rely upon to look after us an excuse to start looking after us again.

Our business was founded on the idea that if we owned the press we would be immune from being caught. Your vindictive little country didn't live up to this.

In the coming days as we take further concrete steps to try to obscure the issues and limit the damage caused you will hear more bullshit from us.

Sincerely,

Rupert

frankiemachine, Friday, 15 July 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

I am honestly having a difficult time reconciling the amiable hippie I met in passing 15 years ago with modern-day CEO James Murdoch, lightning rod of scorn and hatred.

I mean it's not even like I KNOW know him or anything, just that apologetic rhetoric matches the person I met much more than the allegations swirling among his underlings does.

I kind of wish I'd made an actual connection/friendship there so I could dish more effectively about this

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Well, we're talking two different Murdochs here, plus lawyers/PR people, so...

Meantime, so Jude Law is suing the Sun. Fun bits at the Telegraph:

18.59 The hunt is on for the four articles published in 2005 and 2006 that could be the source of the lawsuit. Do you know what they are?

19.01 The Sun website has quite a good search function. Get sleuthing, internet!

19.05 Hmmmm this is interesting - When you type Jude Law into The Sun's website it gives you a chronological archive going backwards. But get to the last page and the stories jump abruptly from 2007 to 2004 - cutting out the exact period covered in the lawsuit.

Could be that less was archived online back then. Could be something else...

19.11 We're working on a full archive search for the Jude Law stories and will hopefully have some results soon.

19.15 Worth remembering that it was Law's ex, Sienna Miller, who kept the issue of phone hacking in the public eye by suing the News of the World.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

Fox finally covers the scandal. "You would think martians have landed in New Jersey"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qtC4gT-_Nj0#at=37

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

Murdoch better not wear a beige turtleneck: he will look even more like an old man's penis.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Also, FOX pundits are reacting and - surprise, surprise - they just don't get it:

On the Fox and Friends show, Fox journalist Steve Doocy wondered just what the fuss was all about: "The company has come forward and said: 'look, this happened a long time ago, at a tabloid, in London, somebody did something really bad,' and the company reacted. They closed that newspaper, all the people got fired, even though 99 percent of them had nothing to do with it."

Doocy's guest, public relations consultant Robert Dilenschneider, was in agreement:
"If I am not mistaken, Murdoch, who owns it, has apologised but for some reason, the public, the media keeps on going over this, again and again. It's a little bit too much."

"The bigger issue is hacking and how we as a public are going to protect outselves," said Dilenschneider, who earlier listed a number of US companies which had recently become the targets of hacking.

Doocy added later: "One of the things about the media, you look at some sites and you would think that martians had landed in New Jersey - again"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Holy shit, can someone confirm? Supposedly Hinton stepped down at the WSJ.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

Guardian's just posted that as a red BREAKING headline.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

This via the Times' assistant news editor so presumably on the level.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

One of the things about the media - is that we're not it, obviously. xps

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

So if Hinton and Brooks are out...beginning to wonder if this is just some sort of outright coup.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Dear Rupert,

I have watched with sorrow from New York as the News of the World story has unfolded. I have seen hundreds of news reports of both actual and alleged misconduct during the time I was executive chairman of News International and responsible for the company. The pain caused to innocent people is unimaginable. That I was ignorant of what apparently happened is irrelevant and in the circumstances I feel it is proper for me to resign from News Corp, and apologize to those hurt by the actions of the News of the World.

When I left News International in December 2007, I believed that the rotten element at the News of the World had been eliminated; that important lessons had been learned; and that journalistic integrity was restored.

My testimonies before the Culture Media and Sport Select Committee were given honestly. When I appeared before the Committee in March 2007, I expressed the belief that Clive Goodman had acted alone, but made clear our investigation was continuing.

In September 2009, I told the Committee there had never been any evidence delivered to me that suggested the conduct had spread beyond one journalist. If others had evidence that wrongdoing went further, I was not told about it.

Finally, I want to express my gratitude to you for a wonderful working life. My admiration and respect for you are unbounded. You have built a magnificent business since I first joined 52 years ago and it has been an honor making my contribution.

With my warmest best wishes,

Les

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

"In sum, so long and thanks for all the fish."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

I mean the wording of that basically boils down to "I didn't know about it, please don't make me testify anywhere, I'm already on the plane so I won't suffer Dominique Strauss-Kahn's fate, send severance check by carrier pigeon to the South Pacific."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

TS: criminal negligence vs. actively rolling in the muck

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Three down surely? xp

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch hasn't sent a grovelling resignation letter yet. But I would kill to read it.

"Dear Dad, my bad, so sad."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Extra points if he raps it.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

xp - but that's Coulson at the back next to Brooks.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

It is, isn't it. There's a general short-hair-and-glasses douchebag quality around Murdoch that seems to smooth them all out.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

Here one of Murdoch's mastheads published this accusing one of its competing papers of "hacking hypocrisy". Editor-in-chief of the accused paper shot it down in flames.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, Murdoch speaks:

“Les and I have been on a remarkable journey together for more than 52 years. That this passage has come to an unexpected end, professionally, not personally, is a matter of much sadness to me,” commented Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and CEO of News Corporation.

“On this difficult day we should appreciate that his extraordinary work has provided a platform for the future success of Dow Jones. And his great contribution to News Corporation over more than five decades has enhanced innumerable lives, whether those of employees hired by him or of readers better informed because of him.

"News Corporation is not Rupert Murdoch. It is the collective creativity and effort of many thousands of people around the world, and few individuals have given more to this Company than Les Hinton.”

http://image1.masterfile.com/getImage/NjAwLTAxNjQ2NDEwbi4wMDAwMDAwMA=AL18-T/600-01646410n.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

As the Telegraph notes, "The fact that the press release carries a nice tribute from Murdoch makes you wonder how long Hinton's resignation has been in the works."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

Are these resignations orchestrated to wrap up the agenda for the week? I know Murdoch would love nothing more than to start next week with an agenda that's not about him.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

(and tbh I don't believe it would work anyway)

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

He and his son are facing that committee on Tuesday, all of Monday will be nothing but 'what will he say?' Interspersed with announcements that the Sun has been sold to Borders for immediate liquidation, the ceremonial destruction of Wapping with the people still in the buildings and Chase Carey and Roger Ailes coming over to talk about how British people suck.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

"News Corporation is not Rupert Murdoch" seems a really significant quote right now

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah. I don't think Murdoch has a great deal of control over this particular narrative.

xp yes it does (and a lie)

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that quote's getting a lot of immediate attention, I'm noticing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway don't forget...THE REAL POWER BEHIND THE THRONE:

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/02/09/1226002/554932-dame-elisabeth-murdoch.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

monty burns' mother

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

dear old thing

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

I appreciate how she is not so much cutting that cake as simply outright murdering it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

is that pic of rebekah in the now-locked cleggeron thread a current one? if so, can't believe she'd pin a sarah payne badge to her dress.....

whatever, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

I presume it's from when the NOTW campaigned for "Sarah's Law".

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Would any of you recommend a simple explanation of what this is all about? I understand that phone hacking was involved, but why is this having such long legs politically? I just don't get this story but I want to!

Euler, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

The short version is that a lot of people had their privacy violated, including celebrities, politicians and people with close ties to famous Britain incidents like the Tube bombing.

The outrage is due to a case involving a 12?-year-old girl who was missing for days who was later found murdered; her family kept calling her phone to find her, leaving messages that filled up her voicemail, and the hackers kept deleting them to make more space so they could get more info, leading the family to believe she was alive when she wasn't.

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

What he said. Further:

Guardian's overview page:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/phone-hacking

But of course there's always...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_scandal

On top of all that, the connections/collusion between various papers, London police and the major parties of government are why this thing has major legs.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

It has long legs politically because almost every politician in the country has been in thrall to Murdoch for decades and they've finally broken the spell xxp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

euler, i thought it was because of suggestions/rumors/evidence that the sun and perhaps other newscorp companies had been using similar, criminal techniques to shut down police investigation into them, intimidate politicians, and generally enjoy a great deal of political influence, so that the knowledge of their criminal activity in some cases has led to suspicion that they're thoroughly rotten (and can be publicly, i.e. politically, pursued for it). xxxp

j., Friday, 15 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Also former execs from NI being on the police payroll while the police were trying to tell the Guardian 'nothing to see here, mate'.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, former NI execs on the police payroll and former police chiefs / prosecutors who were meant to be looking into the criminality on the NI payroll.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

aaaaaargh no Newsnight.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

fuck golf

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

ok this helps!

Euler, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

the prime minister employed as communications chief the ex-editor of the 'news of the world', who had quit after two of his employees had been jailed for hacking voicemails.

the police didn't investigate the editor at the time [because of close and in common parlance corrupt links between the police and news corp/news international] but 'most people' went along with the idea that, though he was editor, he had no idea about the hacking.

the last two weeks have blown that story to smithereens and so part of the story is about the cravenness of politicians on both sides towards murdoch. cameron had been set to give murdoch an even greater share of the uk television market -- which was already controversial.

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

they should get Morrissey to release "Suedehead '11" for this

― she choots, she pah! (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 08:26 (7 hours ago) Bookmark

We had to sneak into your phone
just to hear your voicemails

kinder, Friday, 15 July 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

Appropriately Freudian Freudian slip about a famous Freud in the newspaper famously famed for its slips:

It also quotes Matthew Freud, Elisabeth's wife, something that is unlikely to please the PR man who has been as invisible as he can the last two weeks.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/16/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch#block-13

James Mitchell, Saturday, 16 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

has anybody done a "Will the Last One Out of News Corp Turn Out the Lights?" gif yet

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 July 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

long nyt article about the extent of the relaysh between scotland yard and news int

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/world/europe/17police.html?pagewanted=all

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

At a parliamentary committee hearing last week, three current and former officials who ran the case were openly mocked. One member of Parliament dubbed an investigator “more Clouseau than Colombo.”

At the hearing, the senior investigator in charge of the day-to- day inquiry, Peter Clarke, blamed The News of the World’s “complete lack of cooperation” for the shortcomings in the department’s initial investigation.

While editors were not sharing any information, they were frequently breaking bread with police officers. Andy Hayman, who as head of the counterterrorism unit was running the investigation, also attended four dinners, lunches and receptions with News of the World editors, including a dinner on April 25, 2006, while his officers were gathering evidence in the case, records show. He told Parliament he never discussed the investigation with editors.

Mr. Hayman left the Metropolitan Police in December 2007 and was soon hired to write a column for The Sunday Times, a News International paper. He defended the inquiry that he led, writing in his column in July 2009 that his detectives had “left no stone unturned.”

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

On Friday, The New York Times learned that the former editor, Neil Wallis, was reporting back to News International while he was working for the police on the hacking case.

Executives and others at the company also enjoyed close social ties to Scotland Yard’s top officials. Since the hacking scandal began in 2006, Mr. Yates and others regularly dined with editors from News International papers, records show. Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, met for lunch or dinner 18 times with company executives and editors during the investigation, including eight occasions with Mr. Wallis while he was still working at The News of the World.

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

just a little dining, no big deal

caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

the hayman interview is on the youtubes apparently, it's pretty lol

so brycey (history mayne), Saturday, 16 July 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

since May 2010 the Prime Minister met 26 times with Rupert Murdoch, his son James Murdoch, or former News International head Rebekah Brooks. That's nearly once every two weeks. Or as The Times put it: "His meetings with the Murdoch officials exceeded all his encounters with other British media representatives put together."

p damning statistic

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Oooooooooh:

@tom_watson If what I have just heard is true, there will have to be a major resignation tomorrow.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

man there is such teasing going on with this! if something breaks tomorrow it'd be through the papers, wouldn't it? i don't know if it's just because of the bbc thing but things have seemed to slow down a lot over the weekend.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

guy's other tweets seem sorta nonplussed by people throwing around the idea of cameron resigning at some point

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

sunday papers are already out so if there is something it's probably not in them

caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

We've been caught.
The News of the World was in the business of catching other people. It failed when it came to not getting caught itself.
We are sorry we've been caught.
We are deeply sorry for the hurt we as individuals have suffered by getting caught.
We regret not acting faster to prevent ourselves being caught.
We realise that simply apologising won't change the fact we've been caught. But it might start to give the corrupt politicians and policemen we rely upon to look after us an excuse to start looking after us again.
Our business was founded on the idea that if we owned the press we would be immune from being caught. Your vindictive little country didn't live up to this.
In the coming days as we take further concrete steps to try to obscure the issues and limit the damage caused you will hear more bullshit from us.
Sincerely,
Rupert
― frankiemachine, Friday, July 15, 2011 12:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

otm

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

No, that's not it. Or, if Stephenson goes, it won't be for that reason.

George Osborne's been MIGHTY QUIET these past few weeks.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

man i wish.

i loved the 'concrete steps' part in the original text of rupert's letter, because i kinda feel like it's going to be in reference to the sun on sunday; we will launch this new shitty newspaper as part of our new approach to righteous journalism!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

This is going to be an amazing Peter Morgan film.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

provided that revelations keep spilling with this, it'll be interesting to see to what extent they remain partisan or agency specific; you almost feel there could be that level of fatigue that came with the expenses scandal, whereby at some point everyone implicated & it in some ways takes the heat off
xp lol

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

When I say this is going to be an amazing Peter Morgan film, that means I was speaking to someone who works with him today, and... XD

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

The MP who will lead the attack on Rebekah Brooks and Rupert and James Murdoch this week over their roles in the phone-hacking scandal has close links with the media empire, it is revealed today.

John Whittingdale, the Conservative chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport committee, admitted he was an old friend of Mr Murdoch's close aide, Les Hinton, and had been for dinner with Ms Brooks.

The Independent on Sunday has also learnt that Mr Murdoch's daughter Elisabeth, seen as the future saviour of the company, has also met Mr Whittingdale a number of times. Among her 386 "friends" on Facebook, the only MP she lists is Mr Whittingdale. He is also the only MP among 93 Facebook "friends" of Mr Hinton.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-senior-mps-secret-links-to-murdoch-2315111.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:23 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link

That was poetic, wasn't it? Just fucking exasperated.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, well, that's all right then!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

if nothing else there is political capital to be gained in opposing this ^^^, on account of it adding to the picture of the cosy, tory/murdoch group in control of everything. it should be opposed as a conflict of interest, surely ..?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link

Really worried that this whole death-of-News Corp business will be nothing more than a massive anti-climax. If there's one aspect that's guaranteed to endure it's the revelation of just how many hooks that bastard's got into govt etc. Thank christ Miliband has got some guts.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Idnup.jpg

TORY B

‘Wore a dog-collar for his whippings, but a nice guy’

A married man, tipped for a prime role in any future Tory government. Natalie claims she had five cocaine-fuelled sessions with Tory B, who got his kicks from being whipped while in a dog’s collar.

She said: “I really fancied him when we first met at the home of one of his friends. At first he had no idea what I did for a living, but his wife kept giving me the evil eye. Then one day his friend let slip what I actually did and he booked me for a session.

“A lot of the men I meet are cold and uninteresting, but he had a good soul. But he would soon go off on a rant as soon as anyone mentioned politics. He was very critical of William Hague, the Tory leader at the time. He said after hoovering up a line of coke ‘I’ll be Prime Minister one day’ and I joked, ‘And I’ll have all the evidence on you.’

“He paid me £360 plus pop, which means he had to pay for cocaine on top.”

http://imgur.com/4JZkx

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

A lot of the men I meet are cold and uninteresting, but he had a good soul.

So it wasn't Osborne then? Sounds like Dave but he wouldn't do this to the fragrant Sam...

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

Tories will be launching a full internal inquiry if it turns out somebody with a soul's infiltrated the party.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, that's where the story breaks down

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

"police arrest 42 year old woman"; i wondered if that was brooks, but she's 43

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link

oh, no, guardian says believed to be her

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

met has corrected its statement: 43yo. lol she lied about her age to the desk sergeant.

joe, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/statuses/92569755323600896

"Sources tell Sky that Rebekah Brooks has been arrested as part of phone hacking investigation"

max, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

LOL xp

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

met has corrected its statement: 43yo. lol she lied about her age to the desk sergeant.

or they just got it wrong lol.

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

tweetminster

Rebekah Brooks is being held on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications & corruption allegations - Sky News #notw #phonehacking
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

or they just got it wrong lol.

― lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 13:35 (40 seconds ago)

print the legend, it's the news int way

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

cover up the truth, it's the met police way

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

A Metropolitan Police spokeswoman said "At approximately 12.00 hrs a 43-year-old woman was arrested by appointment at a London police station by officers from Operation Weeting together with officers from Operation Elveden. She is currently in custody.

"She was arrested on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications, contrary to Section1(1) Criminal Law Act 1977 and on suspicion of corruption allegations contrary to Section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906.

"It would be inappropriate to discuss any further details regarding these cases at this time."

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

before it gets lost under all the brooks stuff, & w/apologies for continuing to just c+p from the guardian liveblog verbatim, i thought this was interesting:

Just 24 hours before news broke that Milly Dowler's mobile had been hacked, Elisabeth Murdoch and her husband Matthew Freud hosted a gathering of the UK's political and media elite at their Costwolds mansion. According to The Mail on Sunday, Guests included Peter Mandelson, the BBC's Mark Thompson and Robert Peston, Labour MP David Miliband, Conservative education secretary Michael Gove, Tory policy guru Steve Hilton, his wife, Google communications chief Rachel Whetstone, Rebekah Brooks and James Murdoch.

like so much of what's fascinating about this (to me, dilettante) is getting a window into the texture of the whole world these people occupied, how often they lunched & fraternised. & d miliband & brooks & the murdochs hanging out just seems like such a fucking underworld, like seriously when i imagine this soiree it is happening in the batcave, it is intriguing to me.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

conspiring to intercept communications

is this the same charge everyone else is under, & what phone-hacking is categorised as btw? i just wondered if it might refer to one of the other supposed offences

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

like so much of what's fascinating about this (to me, dilettante) is getting a window into the texture of the whole world these people occupied, how often they lunched & fraternised. & d miliband & brooks & the murdochs hanging out just seems like such a fucking underworld, like seriously when i imagine this soiree it is happening in the batcave, it is intriguing to me.

it's def something which i want to see more analysis of, because in one sense it's like - duh, of course they're friends. why wouldn't they be? it's natural to socialise with people you meet in your professional life. it's natural for networking to elide with actual friendship among people who have similar interests and personalities. that's not a grand conspiracy, everyone does it. but riven through it are all these deeply gory interpersonal details (eg brooks and the browns) and the sense of having to navigate this minefield of fake friendship even amid the real frienships...it reminds me of, like, a medieval royal court or something.

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

really wonder how the crisis would have been different if david milliband was the opposition leader, as ed has been so aggressive in all of this.

also wonder if rebekah has been arrested so she doesn't have to go in front of the commons committee on tuesday.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

She'll be out in time to go to the HCMS committee. Coulson was out after a long day of being held.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

it'll provide her with an "ongoing police matter" out for every question though :/

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

They all need to go under oath on Tuesday.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

mps will probably use some unused powers dating back to the 14th century to drag her from jail to get her to that committee if they have to.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/U3uc6.png

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

wtf

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh FFS. Which news outlet is that?

emil.y, Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Yahoo! News

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

Yahoo News seem to have a general problem with justification of images in their rolling news bits...decapitations are common.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

oh if only

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

HEH

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

A+

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

18.20 Channel 4 is reporting that the Serious Fraud Office is now involved in the investigation of News International

Can UK folks tell me what this means in terms of ratcheting up pressure? Is this an SEC equivalent?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

lol that sounds so fake

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Fraud, For Serious

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Some followup:

18.23 Tom Watson MP apparently wrote to the SFO to ask them investigate whether management had failed in its responsibilities to share holders. The SFO won't confirm or deny its investigation and News International are saying they've had no contact from investigators.

18.27 Channel 4 seems to be slightly back tracking now, stressing that the SFO aren't necessarily investigating but they have been asked to.

So who knows.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

lol i thought the serious fraud office had been shut down

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

@rblandford: Mick Hucknall arrested by accident.

bernerrrrr! berrrrrnowwww.... (Eazy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Sir Paul Stephenson has just resigned.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

ooh, any indication why?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

these girls fall like dominoes...

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

ooh, any indication why?

― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:36 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

loool

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Can we place bets on the next resignation?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

So how long until Yates goes, at this rate...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Stephenson just now:

I have this afternoon informed the Home Secretary and the Mayor of my intention to resign as Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service.
I have taken this decision as a consequence of the ongoing speculation and accusations relating to the Met's links with News International at a senior level and in particular in relation to Mr Neil Wallis who as you know was arrested in connection with Operation Weeting last week.
I had no knowledge of, or involvement in, the original investigation into phone hacking in 2006 that successfully led to the conviction and imprisonment of two men. I had no reason to believe this was anything other than a successful investigation. I was unaware that there were any other documents in our possession of the nature that have now emerged.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

murdoch minor then cameron please

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

xpost "Basically, I suck."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

wow

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

Firstly, I want to say what an enormous privilege it has been for me to lead this great organisation that is the Met. The recent example of the heroism and bravery of Met officers in chasing armed suspects, involving the shooting of one of my officers, is typical; but is in danger of being eclipsed by the ongoing debate about relationships between senior officers and the media. This can never be right.

Crime levels in the Met are at a ten year low. You have seen the Met at its glorious and unobtrusive best on the occasion of the royal wedding; the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations; the vital ongoing work to secure the safety of the capital from terrorism; the reductions in homicide; and continuing increased levels of confidence as the jewel in our crown of Safer Neighbourhoods Teams serve the needs of Londoners.

Etc. etc. "please love me"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

'Coming soon our new tough talking Sun on Sunday columnist Sir Paul Stephenson.'

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

'restrained approach' as in didn't actually kill anyone this time around

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- "The establishment is too soft on crime and the police are clearly corrupt."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations

BAD COP NO DOUGHNUT

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

psyched for when they take this series to film

maurice flitcoz (cozen), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'll have better Peter Morgan gossip this time, next week...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

Your wonderful London mayor:

I was very sad and very reluctant to accept Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation.
Sir Paul is widely admired by men and women in the police service in London.
He felt this whole business was going to make things very very difficult for him in the months ahead in the run up to the Olympics, and he didn't want that kind of distraction.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

And more from Stephenson:

"The purpose of that meeting was, as with other journalists, to represent the context of policing and to better inform the public debate carried out through the media on policing issues.

I had no knowledge of, or involvement in, the original investigation into phone hacking in 2006 that successfully led to the conviction and imprisonment of two men. I had no reason to believe this was anything other than a successful investigation. I was unaware that there were any other documents in our possession of the nature that have now emerged.

I have acknowledged the statement by John Yates that if he had known then what he knows now he would have made different decisions.

My relationship with Mr Wallis continued over the following years and the frequency of our meetings is a matter of public record. The record clearly accords with my description of the relationship as one maintained for professional purposes and an acquaintance.

In 2009 the Met entered into a contractual arrangement with Neil Wallis, terminating in 2010. I played no role in the letting or management of that contract.

I have heard suggestions that we must have suspected the alleged involvement of Mr Wallis in phone hacking. Let me say unequivocally that I did not and had no reason to have done so. I do not occupy a position in the world of journalism; I had no knowledge of the extent of this disgraceful practice and the repugnant nature of the selection of victims that is now emerging; nor of its apparent reach into senior levels."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Okay come ON dude:

--

8.10pm: Stephenson also addressed the allegation that the contractual relationship with Wallis was kept secret:

"The contracting of Mr Wallis only became of relevance when his name became linked with the new investigation into phone hacking. I recognise that the interests of transparency might have made earlier disclosure of this information desirable. However my priority, despite the embarrassment it might cause, has been to maintain the integrity of Operation Weeting. To make it public would have immediately tainted him and potentially compromised any future Operation Weeting action."

He said the reasons for not telling David Cameron and Theresa May about the relationship with Wallis were "two fold":

"Firstly, I repeat my earlier comments of having at the time no reason for considering the contractual relationship to be a matter of concern. Unlike Mr Coulson, Mr Wallis had not resigned from News of the World or, to the best of my knowledge been in any way associated with the original phone hacking investigation.

Secondly, once Mr Wallis's name did become associated with Operation Weeting, I did not want to compromise the prime minister in any way by revealing or discussing a potential suspect who clearly had a close relationship with Mr Coulson. I am aware of the many political exchanges in relation to Mr Coulson's previous employment - I believe it would
have been extraordinarily clumsy of me to have exposed the prime minister, or by association the home secretary, to any accusation, however unfair, as a consequence of them being in possession of operational information in this regard. Similarly, the mayor. Because of the individuals involved, their positions and relationships, these were
I believe unique circumstances.

Consequently, we informed the chair of the MPA, Mr Malthouse, of the Met's contractual arrangements with Mr Wallis on the morning of the latter's arrest. It is our practice not to release the names of suspects under arrest, making it difficult to make public details of the
arrangements prior to Mr Wallis's release the same day. The timing of the MPA committee that I appeared before at 2pm that day was most unfortunate."

8.16pm: Speaking about his free stay worth £12,000 at Champneys health farm where Wallis was also acting as PR agent, Stephenson again denied all allegations of impropriety:

"There has been no impropriety and I am extremely happy with what I did and the reasons for it - to do everything possible to return to running the Met full time, significantly ahead of medical, family and friends' advice. The attempt to represent this in a negative way is both cynical and disappointing.

I thought it necessary to provide this lengthy and detailed account of my position on aspects of the current media questions and speculation concerning my conduct. I do this to provide the backcloth to the main purpose of this statement."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

dunno why the press are still going on about this minor insular non-story

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did

Aimless, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

On Friday, Carl Bernstein said:

it is evident to him the events of the past week "are the beginning, not the end, of the seismic event".

Dude was right.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

A shame that Sir Paul has to resign on a full pension now rather than face an investigation and lose some nominal amount of his money.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

You horrible cynic.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

Andrew Neil says the "carnage has only just begun"

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

Mark S has it right:

Yog Sothoth invited into cabinet to stabilise political situation, calls for calm

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

Methinks the Mail doth protest a little too much.

Neil S, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

Except the problem is not phone hacking now, but corrupt officials.

Aimless, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair the daily mail is actually leading on the stephenson resignation, and one of those links is a ~maverick~ opinion piece

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

ok, that is true. Sorry, Daily Mail.

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

For catchphrase frenzy, it's hard to beat this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2014981/Hacking-They-hell-handcart.html

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

"Hacking They hell handcart" indeed

Neil S, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Who knew the Daily Mail would support the Orange Order and other loyalists in the recent disturbances? I need to remember never to read more of the DM than I have to...

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting interview with Watson:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/17/tom-watson-rupert-murdoch

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Even though the News of the World has been closed, the BSkyB takeover bid withdrawn, and Rupert Murdoch has promised to co-operate with the judicial inquiries, the bloodlust – orchestrated by a vastly subsidised BBC – continues.
wtf. even now they can't shut the fuck up about the bbc. and if this whole thing was some left wing conspiracy (which the telegraph is also now arguing despite pursuing this with equal vigour) it's orchestrated by the guardian obviously.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

The state records our emails, spies on our rubbish bins and uses airport X-ray machines to peer sneakily at our naked bodies.

hahahahahaha!

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently Watson shared a flat at uni with... Neil Codling?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

The alternate universe in which Watson was playing keyboards on "Trash" while Codling went on to interrogate Murdoch is an unusual one to be in.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, do you know Neil?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

ah fuck d'you know i never realised he was in Suede.

Sarah Gurling was at Hull around this time too.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know NC at all. The one in Suede I know best (though not well) is Brett.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

Hold on, NV, you know Neil but missed the Suede connection?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

i knew him vaguely, i didn't pay a lot of attention to who was in Suede, or to Suede after the first album really

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

altho i saw them play at Hull the week before the debut album came out? Neil joined later on tho

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

^^^He is Simon Gilbert's cousin.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Ah okay, I was just getting my head around the idea you and he were buds but he never mentioned his day job.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

"So what do you do anyway, Mr. Eastwood?"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

nah this would've been 87 to 92 ish

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know, there's a clear BBC link to the DMill, Mandy dinner mentioned up there somewhere.

Does this mean some of the rumoured suppressed threads surrounding the RWade/RKemp marriage will now come out?

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, what: affair with chef GR?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

is it true rebekah smacked rkemp up because she caught him in bed with some tory boy?

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

That and the whole beard thing.

haha, that's the story I was thinking of.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

i thought we'd decided it was Phil Mitchell

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

I once saw them together at a book launch and R. Kemp had the most hostile body language ever.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

I kind of liked the personal time I spent with RKemp but it was at a charity dinner with a number of people much harder than him.

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

ah, the Loose Women presenters

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

looooooool

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently there's some hilarious Fox & Friends bit where they have the NOTW as the victims, then they finish with how this foreign news isn't important anyway and that's when their Casey Anthony bit starts? (can't search, my provider has probs with youtube at the moment)

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

for a sec there i was wondered wtf rainer werner fassbinder had to do with this... still am but in a different way

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

'i was wondered' - 2:1 degree yall

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

xps - I once saw them at...ahem...Daylesford Organic (yea, verily, I walked into the very heart of the Chipping Norton set and ate overpriced chocolate with them) and there was a very nasty moment over a jar of organic artichoke hearts.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtC4gT-_Nj0&

nate woolls, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

"If I'm not mistaken Murdoch has apologised, but FOR SOME REASON the public, the media, keeps going over this"

loooooool

ledge, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch may be arrested?

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

Reading rumors about same.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

wow this could be the best summer ever

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, Nate! It's even better than I'd read.

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

Am I right in thinking that Brooks is apparently still being questioned?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

i'm really suspicious about these arrests before the committee thing on tuesday.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

As well you should be.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

Course, if *Rupert* got arrested too...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

As likely as Santa Claus getting arrested for breaking & entering.
Can't shake this feeling that the whole lot of them are going to get off scott free.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

from that mail "What about the REAL problems?" post

The state records our emails, spies on our rubbish bins and uses airport X-ray machines to peer sneakily at our naked bodies.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

Can't shake this feeling that the whole lot of them are going to get off scott free.

After Murdoch Jr. owned up to the payments? I think not.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

it may yet happen. also no police arrested yet iirc. but the committee is a spectacle, an entertaining one sure but a spectacle. starting criminal proceedings against the guilty parties is much more important in the big scheme of things.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Course, if *Rupert* got arrested too...

Not sure about him, but Cameron surely can't stay? Was just reading comments on the Telegraph and quite a lot of the top-rated comments were variations on "he must go." And that was the Telegraph.

Can't imagine their voters in the shires are impressed at all. The pressure must be huge.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

This Iain Dale goon seems distinctly unnerved by the prospect

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

Was just reading comments on the Telegraph and quite a lot of the top-rated comments were variations on "he must go." And that was the Telegraph.

the telegraph doesn't live cameron though, ever. comments boxes man.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

'love'

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

Who would become PM then though? The cabinet is useless. I guess it'd have to be David Davis.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:49 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark

can i just nick clegg

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway if Blair could survive after Iraq I'm sure Cameron will be fine.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Blair was not clearly implicated in criminal activity, sorry SWP fans. Cameron, as hm says, is drowning here. Surely it's time for Ann Widdecombe to form a government of national unity.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

x-post OTM. Camerons been outpaced by the story at every point.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

can i just nick clegg

omg the idea of this

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

bring back attlee

max, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

who does labour have &c &c

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

i said days ago at least nobody can accuse the Lib Dems of being too close to NI. or anybody else

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

no lex absolutely this doesn't help the revivified corpse of the Labour party one iota. if anything, electorally this ought to play well for the LDs except you know that wd be logical or something

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

prolego otm and i dont see wtf shaun wright-phillips has to do with it tbh

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

No idea, isn't the chancellor first in line for this kind of thing? He's been very quiet recently though. Would love to know what they have on him.

I had to check the PM page on wiki for backup and found this lovely official Cameron photo on there.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

there's always boris.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

the chancellor was the one who recommended coulson! though that could have been a ruthless move aimed at eventually destorying cameron. he's very ambition.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

xp

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

George has problems with escort and coke, yes?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks. They only tolerated him initially because he was reasonably popular. If that starts to slip, he might have trouble within the party. On the one hand, his cuts have probably been aggressive enough for most of them, on the other, he hasn't been particularly hardline on Europe or law and order. I'm sure that the whole party had fed from the NI trough at one point but none are tied so closely or would make such a convenient sacrifice. I can't really see it happening though. Who would step in? Pickles? Davies?

Also interesting to think about what the ostensible removal of the Murdoch influence might mean for his personal politics moving forward.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

problems?

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks.

Already kicking in:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100097264/sir-paul-stephenson-resigns-this-is-grave-news-for-david-cameron/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

PIIICKLLLLLLLLLLLEEESSS

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron speaks:

Sir Paul Stephenson has had a long and distinguished career in the police, and I would like to thank him for his service over many, many years.
Under his leadership the Metropolitan Police made good progress in fighting crime, continued its vital work in combating terrorism, and scored notable successes such as the policing of the Royal Wedding.
While I know that today must be a very sad occasion for him, I respect and understand his decision to leave the Met, and I wish him well for the future.
What matters most of all now is that the Metropolitan Police and the Metropolitan Police Authority do everything possible to ensure the investigations into phone hacking and alleged police corruption proceed with all speed, with full public confidence and with all the necessary leadership and resources to bring them to an effective conclusion.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

From Osborne's last speech three days ago!

We have discussed chocolate biscuits, Tupperware, secret treaties and what Mr Skinner said in 1971, the year in which I was born.

Amazing.

gyac, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

NADINE DORRIES FOR PM

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Loving waking up atm. Every day is like xmas.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

This doesn't look good for ERII either, this all happened during her reign. Can we expect a "One abdicates" speech over this too?

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe Liz, Charles, and Wills can all abdicate one after the other, leaving Harry as king?

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, a guy who wears a Nazi to a fancy dress party has got to make the government look good by comparison.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Nazi uniform
oh dear...

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Let it cascade down to Beatrice, who can become queen only if she wears that hat all day.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Wearing a Nazi is the in thing, don't you know.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

'ere, guvnor, I 'ad that Goebbells on me 'ead last week!

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Ow man, we're gonna need a bigger boatload of popcorn if all of that happens.

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.

― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:51 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

returning to this, if the met is like every other organization of human beings in history, those slightly lower in the hierarchy will want to fill the power vacuum left by the departure of the discredited former top brass. so some part of justice may be served by their ambition, kind of thing.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

Pippa will probably end up Queen.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ dorries for PM.
& i had the same holy shit! feeling at wondering if clegg could somehow become PM out of this. it would be so amazing. it would be worth how terrible it would be just for how awkward it would be.

cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation

yeah for the talk of osbourne being quiet i really do think it's weird that cameron's been so useless w/this - you'd have thought he'd be trying to get ahead of the story, & wonder if there's a fear of something that's stopping him from doing so.

also waking up every morning knowing more of this shit is coming OTM. there was a comment is free piece about how this 'isn't britain's worst crisis', which sort of misses the point, that it's britain's best crisis.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

Surely the Tory Right would rather be in Opposition than have Clegg as PM?

carson dial, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

they mayn't have a choice?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

theresa may preparing to give a statement at 10pm on a sunday makes me feel like she might've killed bin laden?, or at least the bin laden of this story, rupert murdoch?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

xp Clegg would have to be PM at least temporarily, but the TR would fight to have one of their number as PM.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

NADINE DORRIES FOR PM

― prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:11 (18 minutes ago)

thought this said NANDO TORRES for a second

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

neither of them have scored in the last 6 months

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

the appraisal of telegraph blogwriters and other assorted bankrupts is rather wishfully END TIMES

cameron is ~gonna get thru this~

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

not without a few kickings, still

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

slam dunk from NV

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron is kind of obligated to be on the back foot with all this. every additional word he says about it reminds people of his involvement with Coulson. his hands are tied.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

A roffly detail:

The prime minister is currently en route on a foreign trip. His location is being kept a secret for security reasons, according to the BBC. However he was informed about Stephenson's resignation before flying and is being kept informed in the air.

"Called Siberia, I think, don't worry, plenty of room."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

he will make a new life in mexico

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

for Cameron to go, I think it'll take somebody senior in the Government to deal the first blow. Can't see that happening.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

yah pretty sure georgie never did that

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

Wasn't one K. Clarke famously anti-Murdoch at one point? He's been quite quiet too.

What a day this was. Cmon Tuesday already.

stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

So where is Cameron that he needs to be secretive, Afghanistan - surely too dangerous currently (and hasn't he just been there)? Iraq? Scotland?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

Australia, obv. Murdoch's mom is already getting her knife ready.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

libya?

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

He's en route to South Africa.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

any chance if cameron cred was destroted lib dems would make common cause w labour and form new coalition?

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

the lib dem leadership would need to be completely removed, don't think there are any likely insurgents from outside the cabinet

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

triumphant return of charlie kennedy would be fun tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

"Secondly, once Mr Wallis's name did become associated with Operation Weeting, I did not want to compromise the Prime Minister in any way by revealing or discussing a potential suspect who clearly had a close relationship with Mr Coulson. I am aware of the many political exchanges in relation to Mr Coulson's previous employment — I believe it would have been extraordinarily clumsy of me to have exposed the Prime Minister, or by association the Home Secretary, to any accusation, however unfair, as a consequence of them being in possession of operational information in this regard. Similarly, the Mayor. Because of the individuals involved, their positions and relationships, these were I believe unique circumstances.

I'm still trying to get to get to grips with this bit. It's late and I'm tired, can someone re-write it for me in one sentence?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm a coward and I hate myself but I hate Cameron even more."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

Dunno but Cam's guys are spinning vehemently against Stephenson as we speak. Nothing so entertaining as a falling out of thieves.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

have we done this bit about honest copper Paul Stephenson yet?

Ahead of a planned appearance before MPs on Tuesday, it was revealed Sir Paul enjoyed a free three-week stay earlier this year at Champney’s, a leading health spa, following surgery. Champney’s was at the time employing Mr Wallis, a former News of the World journalist, who also gave public relations advice to the Met. The New York Times has also alleged Mr Wallis reported back to News International while he worked for the police.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, so if nobody in politics, the press or the police can be trusted at face value anymore, who's going to investigate all of this? Are judges the only institution not yet involved?

StanM, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

clearly it will be arbitrated the the britain's got talent judges

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

BY the

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

"britain's got corruption"

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/13956-simon_cowell_really_musical_authority.jpg

"I don't mean to be rude but you all completely suck."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

xps - it's ok, it was just a mate of his giving him £12k worth of bed and board for nought - no biggie...

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

this is by far the most entertaining political bloodbath i've seen, though more annuated ilx users will doubtless wish to have their say

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

w/r/t politics, if this claims tory scalps, so far i don't think labour's prospects are really better than they were a few weeks ago. miliband is doing no more than voicing public opinion; he's still a weak candidate without a convincing story about unemployment, economic restructuring, curbing the power of the banks and corporations, lowering the cost of living, etc etc etc. that isn't irrelevant to this crisis, which is partly about a conspiracy of what used openly and unironically to be called top people against everyone else.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

It's basically down to the X-Factor panel, who have often been accused of vote rigging, but found to be innocent in every incident.

xpost I SAID IT FIRST!!

Mark G, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

i was young and naive and optimistic but i think there was a moment during the Westland scandal when it really felt like Thatcher was on the way out. this is far more satisfying and far-reaching tho i think.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

New Guardian piece

The Guardian has learned that Scotland Yard chiefs invited Wallis to apply for a senior communications post with the force in 2009, a decision Stephenson was aware of. Wallis was approached to apply for the two day a month contract by the Met, following discussions involving the forces's most senior figures.

A source with close knowledge of the Yard's thinking at the time said part of Wallis's attraction was his connection to former News of the World editor Coulson, who was a leading aide to Cameron, then in opposition and expected to become prime minister.

Part of the Met's thinking was that Wallis's connections would help the force's relationship with Cameron: "One (Wallis) is a lot cheaper and gives you direct access into No 10," the source added.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp

The narrative that EMil is starting to develop is that once Wapping has been pulled down and the fields sown with salt, the political landscape of the country will change for the better and the Labour party will rise from its tomb and effect real social change free from the scaremongering of a Murdochite press.

This is bollocks obviously but

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

you'd have thought the mail could have picked a more suitable time to try and bring the bbc down but no

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2015829/Melanie-Phillips-If-Miliband-hero-wont-tackle-REAL-threat-way-life--BBC.html

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

this is by far the most entertaining political bloodbath i've seen, though more annuated ilx users will doubtless wish to have their say

http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/11qhf7o.jpg

NEVER FORGET

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

But for years now, the BBC has instead been playing to the lowest common denominator

now i'm enough of a snob about the Beeb but nobody who's seen ITV or Sky's original programming cd write this with a straight face

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

Well that's kinda the point in all of this as I understand it, that HAD been happening all this time and no major traction came of it beyond Coulson's resignation a while back, though the new police investigation had been continuing. Then the news breaks about said teenager's phone and now we're here.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

answer is something like 'probably not'. notw staff were jailed for hacking royal/celeb phones years ago but the weirdly sustained fiction was that the editors knew nothing.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

i was young and naive and optimistic but i think there was a moment during the Westland scandal when it really felt like Thatcher was on the way out. this is far more satisfying and far-reaching tho i think.

This is looking to be the scandal of a generation. The very fact that Rupert Murdoch is at the centre of it all and has no control whatsoever of the story speaks volumes.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

The other considerable factor is the feeling that many politicians have broken loose of NI and seem incredibly excited about it.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

He's en route to South Africa.

Someone else just said South America(which is a bit vague). Is is normally a secret when the PM goes abroad (to places that aren't war zones)?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- Yeah, that's the thing I'm sensing too, if only because part of the story seems to have clearly shifted to how NI in all its forms is reporting (or more to the point, not reporting or misreporting) the story. WSJ interview seen as crass defiance, Fox and Friends piece widely mocked of course, etc., and of course above all that the NotW closing -- rather than tone-setting it's all sounding like an extended flail. Ergo, if they try to attack any politician going at them, what exactly would it achieve?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

I thought that when I read the Gordon Brown Is Going Mad Again piece in the STimes this morning. All a bit desperate.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

you could see this as another example in a half decade full of them that there is a club at the top of society that appears to just shit on everyone for fun

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

^^^Apparently Ed Miliband is going to tie this into a culture of irresponsibility ie. bankers' behaviour and the like.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

Miliband will use a speech in the City of London on Monday to widen his attack on Britain's "untouchables" – scandal-dogged bankers, politicians and now the media, who think they are above the law – by identifying other groups whose conduct puts them in the same category. After Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation the police too are expected to join the Labour leader's list.

^^^Guardian, just up...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

that sounds promising. pretty much everyone who has worked in the_city deserves a mallet to the nuts tbqf.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm seems a bit of a shit angle; this is strong enough on its own, it doesn't need a larger narrative. You dont want this to seem too big to fix; you want itbboiled down "here is a really clear and obvious crime: so sack x and y; do Z; all will be well". Not "oh woe what a massive systemic mess we are, the only answer is nothing simple or pat and leaves lots of room for argument"

Depends how he sells it, I guess. Oh.

stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

Depends how he sells it, I guess. Oh.

haha. yerce.

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

If he turns up with a mallets for everyone plan I'm right behind him, tho

stet, Sunday, 17 July 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

Miliband will use a speech in the City of London on Monday to widen his attack on Britain's "untouchables" – scandal-dogged bankers, politicians and now the media, who think they are above the law – by identifying other groups whose conduct puts them in the same category. After Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation the police too are expected to join the Labour leader's list.
^^^Guardian, just up...

― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:47 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

weird coincidence: the anti-corruption task force in the met that andy hayman led and john yates served in during the late 90s-early 2000s was nicknamed the "untouchables", but allegedly spent a lot of time covering up corruption, pinning the blame on a few suckers and smearing innocent officers who got in their way.

joe, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

Is this the thing where they were dobbing officers of colour into disciplinaries and terrorism referrals?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

From the BBC comments:

If the Met hired Wallis, did the govt hire Grommit?

I am sorry, but I lol'd

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Brooks finally bailed. See you all in the morning.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

Well that was quick:

12.11am: The Guardian's chief political correspondent, Nick Watt, has some more details about David Cameron being informed of Stephenson's resignation. He says the prime minister was told of the news at 7.20pm, en route from Heathrow to South Africa.

Downing Street made contact with the prime minister while he was on board his Virgin plane shortly before the commissioner's statement was released.

The prime minister spoke from his first class cabin by satellite phone to the home secretary, Theresa May, and officials before releasing his own statement at around 9.30pm.

Downing Street officials said at the time that the prime minister would press ahead with his two-day visit to South Africa and Nigeria.

12.21am: David Cameron has cancelled plans to visit Rwanda and Sudan during his visit to Africa in order to return earlier to the UK.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

From a linked story:

David Cameron begins a two-day visit to Africa which has been curtailed to allow the prime minister to fly home early to finalise the terms and membership of Lord Justice Leveson's inquiry into the media.

In his first visit to sub-Saharan Africa as prime minister, Cameron will fly into South Africa with a message that an African free trade area could increase GDP across the continent by more than it currently receives in aid.

He will praise his generation for marching against African debt and for holding concerts to raise funds for aid to the continent.

But in article in the South African Business Day he will call for a change of approach. "They have never once had a march or a concert to call for what will in the long term save far more lives and do far more good – an African free trade area," he writes.

But Cameron's free trade message is likely to be overshadowed by events back home following the arrest of Rebekah Brooks, the former chief executive of News International, who entertained the prime minister at her Oxfordshire home over the Christmas period.

Downing Street aides, who had at one point considered cancelling the trip altogether at the height of the phone-hacking crisis last week, instead decided to cut it back from four days to two. Cameron will now just visit South Africa and Nigeriaon Tuesday. Plans to visit Rwanda and Sudan have been scrapped.

Time has been found in the diary to allow No 10 aides – and possibly the prime minister – to watch the appearance by Rupert and James Murdoch.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

Charges re: Brooks:

She was arrested by appointment at a London police station on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications, contrary to Section 1(1) Criminal Law Act 1977 and on suspicion of corruption allegations contrary to Section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

lol hey africa we care, honest! oh wait we don't because some rich old dude has a problem.

� (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

Time has been found in the diary to allow No 10 aides – and possibly the prime minister – to watch the appearance by Rupert and James Murdoch.

jeez david this is not an opportunity to socialise

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

Australia, obv. Murdoch's mom is already getting her knife ready.

Ned you keep citing Dame Elis as panto eminence gris, but since all her recent treatment in Ncorp press is that she's either senile or brainwashed for going off-message in re Carboncategate, is there really any actual connection w/ Rupert at all post-Deng?

dave kohl (sic), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

What better way to exact revenge, my friend.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

ONE LIZ TO ANOTHER: PM's flight to Oz leads to a trussing

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

Guardian reviews Stephenson statement.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

so much for editorial indpendence for the wall street journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576451812776293184.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

Guardian finally manages to implicate Dan Wooton:

The connections between Champneys and News International's papers, in particular the Sun and the News of the World, are extensive. They involve several promotional reader offers promising discounts and two-for-one deals at the spa, and the papers' coverage of the resort has also been generous.

In the last year, the News of the World ran a string of stories about Champneys. One, by showbiz reporter Dan Wooton, reported "a pal" of pop singer Pixie Lott and model Oliver Cheshire saying how they "wanted some quiet time so they had a four-day romantic break at Champneys in Tring in Hertfordshire".

Amanda Holden devoted most of her column one week describing a break at the spa with two friends, in particular detailing Charlie Brooks's kriotherapy centre offering "a new treatment which should blitz our cellulite!"

It did not stop there. Girls Aloud singer Sarah Harding eulogised about spa's "non-surgical facelifts", and Flavia Cacace, a dancer on Strictly Come Dancing told the paper: "I like to go to Champneys Spa for a facial and a massage."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/18/champneys-spa-paul-stephenson-phone-hacking

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

Wooton going to jail would give me more pleasure than anything

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 07:00 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^yes.

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

Wooton is significant, why?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck, RAF Leuchars is closing as part of the defense review. I live in Leuchars, and it's really the only source of jobs - everyone I know works for the MOD or is married to someone who does. There used to be a paper mill here, but that closed a few years ago, so it's just dishwashing and bedmaking in St Andrews. Place is going to be a ghost town. Still, people in the forces will insist on voting Tory, no matter what, and Fife votes Lib Dem, until the last Scottish election, so I guess we're reaping what we sow.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

Another example of the tories screwing Scotland, of course. But I guess it'll get buried by the NI story to a large degree.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

Who's who by Businessweek, don't think it's been linked here before:

http://images.businessweek.com/cms/2011-07-14/004-openingremarks30_2.jpg

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

Crap, how do I shot it being readable?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:23 (twelve years ago) link

Sigh.. sorry guys.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

Don't worry, Clive Goodman's Harry Redknapp impersonation is worth seeing twice.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

Firefox users: right-click on the pic and select 'View Image'

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

^^ that indeed helps, thanks Snoball!

@NickB: LOL

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:29 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch, the beleagured News Corporation executive, has received a ringing endorsement from MMR manufacturer, GlaxoSmithKline according to Reuters news agency on Friday. GSK who appointed him to their board in February 2009 insist Murdoch has made “a strong contribution” to the group and received share payments worth $158,000 in 2010. Murdoch was appointed to the board of the pharmaceutical manufacturer with a brief to “review…external issues that might have the potential for serious impact upon the group's business and reputation."

Within a fortnight of his appointment News International had published at least 5 articles attacking MMR researcher Andrew Wakefield’s integrity.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/07/james-murdoch-is-still-supported-by-glaxosmithkline.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

hmm that may be true but wouldn't credit anything from a site that defends Wakefield.

ledge, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:53 (twelve years ago) link

christ

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:53 (twelve years ago) link

Wakefield didn't really need a Murdoch to discredit him.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:55 (twelve years ago) link

from the site that brought you The Age of Autism:
Mercury, Medicine, and a Man-Made Epidemic

i.e. it's Mercury Hat time

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

I keep staring at NV's judgesiren.jpg. Infuriating how it doesn't blare.

*throws Noodle Vague a http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/UEKoi.gif *

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

drudgesiren, even

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

I would rather NI had published pro-big pharma propaganda if that means they were also publishing anti-Wakefield propaganda, if you see what I mean.

Neil S, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

i wd rather not pick a side in terms of good guys and bad guys but i guess Wakefield and co. have arguably done more harm over the short term

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

if we could just roll up every major news story of the last decade into this that would be fab.

ledge, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently there's some hilarious Fox & Friends bit where they have the NOTW as the victims,

Don't remember that bit...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PRANTGW8L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

37. Hello Goodbye Single (Points: 238, Voters: 10, Number Ones: 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLAcxCkjqJs&feature=related

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

A little melody to help you through your day..

A comment on the short tenure of the chief of police there....

(ahem.. tiptoes away)

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

Inspector Gadget commenters are more upset with Stephenson for a) making them wear ties and b) not allowing them Tasers than anything, you know, substantive.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

Them coppas were queueing up and fighting amongst themselves to have a go at tazering RMoat "No let me" "Gerrof, I want to" "SARGE!!!"... etc.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

"But I would say that the situation in the Metropolitan police service is really quite different to the situation in government so suck on that Boris"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14182703

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

The Metropolitan police authority is currently holding a meeting to discuss Mr Yates' handling of the phone hacking affair and his links with Mr Wallis, a former senior executive at the News of the World.

It is understood the authority has decided to hold an investigation into the assistant commissioner. It is expected he will be asked to step down while this investigation is carried out.

A source close to the mayor told The Daily Telegraph: "If an investigation is ongoing he cannot stay in his job."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8645011/Phone-Hacking-John-Yates-to-be-suspended-over-Neil-Wallis-links.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

Although it's not like Boris is still in charge of the MPA, so it's not like he's trying to grab the glory for himself.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

oh nononono nooo

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

Just thinking about annoying style journalist, initials DJ, whose fealty to Cameron caused an industry to sick up onto its taxi shoes...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, excellent choice - please let him be implicated...

Yates gone now?

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link

Soundtrack for today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEO7AtBvmgA

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

was going to link to this just in case anyone wanted an overview, but it has some pretty fun moments:

Nick Davies had been alerted that Brooks had told colleagues that the story was going to end with “Alan Rusbridger on his knees, begging for mercy.” “They would have destroyed us,” Davies said on a Guardian podcast last week. “If they could have done, they would have shut down The Guardian.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/17/how-the-guardian-broke-the-news-of-the-world-hacking-scandal.html#

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link

Those evil far left Liberal Democrat supporters

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

“Alan Rusbridger on his knees, begging for mercy."

oh man the more i hear about this story the more i love this woman

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

she is the greatest villainess of all time

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

I mean... who in the world could you cast that would do justice to her? She is amazing.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

TILDA SWINTON

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

that just might work!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

That was the day the NOTW was shut down

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

TILDA SWINTON

... and featuring, in his first dramatic role, as David Cameron, PM... Michael McIntyre

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:08 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ tilda swinton, word. tilda swinton reprising her role from the last ten minutes of michael clayton.
the bit where she was saying that the guardian 'had it in for them' to departing staff is still the thing that kills me, that you could be so mired in shit & still see it as a conspiracy.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link

It's weird to be able to actually enjoy the Guardian being smug about something

MPx4A, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

Scotland Yard's Assistant Commissioner John Yates says he's done "nothing wrong", amid speculation he could be suspended over the phone-hacking scandal. He tells reporters who ask if his position is untenable: "Give me a break."

LOL, what a twat

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxxpost
I like the way it appears there's a little mutant hand trying to get out of her chest.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link

i was thinking nicole kidman (botox would help, when have you ever seen our rebekah have a facial expression) but SWINTON seems perfect

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

or cate blanchett for full rebekah brooks/elizabeth i crossover

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

great opportunity for a bonnie langford comeback here

Once Were Moderators (DG), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

shameless wall street journal editorial: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576451812776293184.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

as bad in a way as that fox & friends clip

max, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:26 (twelve years ago) link

Our readers can decide if we are a better publication than we were four years ago, but there is no denying that News Corp. has invested in the product. The news hole is larger. Our foreign coverage in particular is more robust, our weekend edition more substantial, and our expansion into digital delivery ahead of the pack. The measure that really matters is the market's, and on that score Mr. Hinton was at the helm when we again became America's largest daily.

Another day of chucking journalism down the news hole...

Neil S, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

The overnight turn toward righteous independence recalls an eternal truth: Never trust a politician.

And uh, uh, I know you are, but what am I?!?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

Hearing that Cameron was about to employ Coulson, the editor of the Graun let him (and, separately, Clegg) know that

in 2005 Coulson’s NotW had rehired as one of its investigators a man named Jonathan Rees, who was just out of prison having served a seven-year sentence for planting cocaine on an innocent woman. Rees was now in prison, awaiting trial for conspiracy to murder his former business partner, a man who had been found in a pub parking lot with an ax in his head.

He appeared rather dismissive of its significance and only a little rattled.

dave kohl (sic), Monday, 18 July 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

"Melanie Phillips" strikes again:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2015829/Phone-hacking-scandal-If-Ed-Miliband-hero-wont-tackle-BBC.html

Neil S, Monday, 18 July 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

cate blanchett is one of the most beautiful women in the world and rebekah brooks looks like a regla at an ayrshire magistrates court

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

sic, and to boot, Rees was spying on the police officers in charge of investigating him for that murder! Of course he couldn't do the spying himself since his every move was being watched so he hired.... NotW people to do the job for him! joe linked that article in the other thread, it's here -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/news-of-the-world-rebekah-brooks

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

There's a part of me that wants to spend a night with her.

abcfsk, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

nakh while i agree tbh I don't think Blanchett has the think-bones to do Brooks justice

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

@BBCMichaelCrick Gordon Brown was so keen on judicial inquiry into hacking that it was even an item in May 2010 Lab Lib Dem Coalition negotiations

Serve it cold, Gordon...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

David Cameron tried his best to look interested during a lengthy business Q&A just now at the Johannesburg Stock Exchange; but his mind is undoubtedly elsewhere, several thousand miles to the north, where the phone hacking saga is yielding new twists and turns by the hour.

But he looked a bit more alert when Jason Groves of the Daily Mail – alluding to Ed Miliband’s comments this morning – asked whether he was considering his position as prime minister.

The answer was rather rambling and gave neither a negative or affirmative. Cameron must realise that “prime minister refuses to quit” would be a gift for the press.

http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2011/07/david-cameron-asked-if-he-will-consider-quitting/

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link


James Chapman, the Mail’s political editor, has pointed out that the odds of David Cameron quitting the cabinet first are now (at 12-1) shorter than those of Caroline Spelman (at 16-1).

hahaha

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

spelman of the forest-selling, lest we forget

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

More from Cameron's ramble:

The British Government, in terms of this phone-hacking scandal, has taken all of the appropriate action. ...
I feel I have been out there in Parliament and in press conferences, fully answering the questions, fully transparent, very clear about what needs to be done, making sure that Britain gets to the bottom of what has been a terrible episode in terms of what newspapers have done, hacking into private data, and also some very big questions about potential police corruption - we need to get to the bottom of those.
I've said very clearly as a politician that the relationship between politicians and media hasn't been right.
The music has stopped on my watch and I am determined to get to the bottom of it to make sure we have a better relationship in the future and to put these things right.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

I’m going to make a big statement...

Because I'm a big statesman. No, really I am.

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

yates has resigned, sez twitter

so jaded that i can barely muster a shrug, our sights are surely on bigger fish now

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

"He's so nervous, avoiding all the questions"

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

BBC:

BREAKING NEWS:Met Police Assistant Commissioner John Yates resigns amid criticism of his investigation into phone hacking

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

I've said very clearly as a politician that the relationship between politicians and media hasn't been right...in fact I was only saying that to Rebekah the other day, but she told me to stop being such a worrier and once they got Rusbridger on his knees it would all be fine...

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

Scotland Yard's Assistant Commissioner John Yates says he's done "nothing wrong", amid speculation he could be suspended over the phone-hacking scandal. He tells reporters who ask if his position is untenable: "Give me a break. I resign"

fixed

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

How many resignations from people who have done absolutely nothing wrong are we on now?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

It's the old get-out, used oft in the past, see Dame Shirley Porter or Jeffrey Archer:

"I have done nothing wrong" which is a matter of (someone's) opinion,

vs

"I have done nothing illegal" which is something that can be established.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

Wonder if Cressida Dick will still be thinking about Jean Charles de Menezes "every day" in her new role?

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

great opportunity for a bonnie langford comeback here

this was a quality lol

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

this hacking scandal has caused such a distraction to my work that i am also resigning today

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

uh ruPert

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

this hacking scandal has caused such a distraction to my work that i am also resigning today

Yes, I'm finding it really hard to concentrate today!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

no we have to get work done today because tomorrow it'll be impossible what with the select committee and all

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

Are we getting called up, or just cited?

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think anyone could blame me for finding "Hostile & Generous Toleration (A New Theory of Toleration)" by George Jacob Holyoake not exactly riveting

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

Imagine the Manic Street Preachers are reading it alongside you.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

xp

wd read tbh

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

Things are looking up, I'm on to "Life and Death (Part I. - Death)"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

No spoilers.

ledge, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, part I?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

part 1?
xp

pandemic, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

Part II is yr phone gets hacked.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

lol

pandemic, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

Part III is You're Fired.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

14.54 Boris Johnson appears to have lost his temper at a question from Jon Snow, answers in raised voice. Starting to look more flustered than usual; fiddles with his tie. And to another question - "Come on, be fair".

Finally, challenged again on dismissing hacking as codswallop, says: "I misunderstood the severity of the allegations." Blames poor information he was given.

This guy.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

"Come on, be fair" shd be the Tory campaign slogan for 2012.

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

2.58pm: You just effectively sacked two of the most senior officers in London, the mayor is told.

"Yeah ... That's not an operational matter," Johnson says. And with that the press conference is over.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

Jon Snow?

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

... and Part II is......... Life! They got that one arse over tit there.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- is this the real life, is this just fantasy, etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

A sick masochistic part of me wants to turn on Fox News today.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

Why are you bored of the scandal? You wpn't find it reported there.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

ha, true. Just thought Doocey might do some more spinning, but Fox & Friends is already over today.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

Death is four pages longer than Life :(

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

Thankfully it's mostly footnotes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

Meantime I note Sullivan's back blogging and has things to say, thus here and here. I admit to being amused:

I've lived in America for twenty-five years, and yet I can come home as a native son and personally knew at college the current Mayor of London (an Oxford Union successor), the Foreign Secretary (an Oxford Union predecessor), the editor of the Economist (Magdalen history), and from Reigate Grammar School, the director of strategy at Number 10, the director of public prosecutions and, last but not least, Fatboy Slim.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

Death is four pages longer than Life :(

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:26 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Thankfully it's mostly footnotes.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:27 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

I love how this reads:

15.40 Theresa May says the Met is stronger today than when Sir Paul Stephenson took over. She has agreed he should leave "as swiftly as possible".

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

News America was led by Paul V. Carlucci [who engaged in unethical and illegal practices that eventually forced settlements exceeding $500 million], who, according to Forbes, used to show the sales staff the scene in “The Untouchables” in which Al Capone beats a man to death with a baseball bat. Mr. Emmel testified that Mr. Carlucci was clear about the guiding corporate philosophy.

According to Mr. Emmel’s testimony, Mr. Carlucci said that if there were employees uncomfortable with the company’s philosophy — “bed-wetting liberals in particular was the description he used” Mr. Emmel testified — then he could arrange to have those employees “outplaced from the company.”

So what became of him? Mr. Carlucci, as it happens, became the publisher of The New York Post in 2005 and continues to serve as head of News America, which doesn’t exactly square with Mr. Murdoch’s recently stated desire to “absolutely establish our integrity in the eyes of the public.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/media/for-news-corporation-troubles-that-money-cant-dispel.html

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

The Guardian's fault for the typo but even so:

May concludes by saying that many Met officers serve the public bravely. An officer was short in the course of his duties only three days ago. It is for their sake that these inquiries need to be successful.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Now, since ‘News International Associated Services’ is a News International subsidiary based in Wapping, it’s fairly clear that the GLA has paid a Murdoch company several thousand pounds for something, reasonably regularly, during 2009/2010.

Around that time, we know that the now defunct Murdoch freesheet The London Paper was running advertorials for Boris’s shiny new Story of London festival:

Publicity for the Story of London Festival was mainly through the GLA website, poster campaign and pamphlet supported by articles in the ‘londonpaper’.

Yes, if you close down your ‘Pyong-Yang style freesheet’ you effectively end up paying, well, Rupert Murdoch to print your PR.

http://www.boriswatch.co.uk/2011/07/14/boris-and-murdoch-part-1-cash/

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

4.23pm: PoliticalBetting is taking the prospect of David Cameron quitting quite seriously, reports Paul Owen.

The website's respected guru Mike Smithson reports that Ladbrokes has tightened the price on Cameron's being the next cabinet member to quit the government from 100/1 ten days ago to 12/1 now. Stan James offers 7/1 against Cameron not lasting the year.

Of the frontrunners to replace Cameron, David Davis represents "outstanding value" at 33/1, and Smithson has put some money down. Boris Johnson is top of the heap at 4/1, despite his not being an MP. Paul's own tip to replace Cameron would be William Hague, whose reputation and image as a statesman have steadily and markedly improved since he was last Tory leader – give or take a few embarrassing stories about his sleeping arrangements.

Ugh, Boris.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Paul's own tip to replace Cameron would be William Hague, whose reputation and image as a statesman have steadily and markedly improved since he was last Tory leader

bleeeaarrghhhhh

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

THOUGHT WE WERE RID OF HIM A DECADE AGO >:(

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

He's back and balder than ever.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

does he still have his beard

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Inquiries inquiries inquiries:

• IPCC oversight of Operation Elveden:
Operation Elveden, looking into corruption, is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. As soon as individual suspected officers have been identified, IPCC investigators will lead an independent investigation of those officers. Both of these matters will then be considered by the Leveson Inquiry, already established by the Prime Minister.
• Review of police-press relations:
Elizabeth Filkin, the former Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, has "provisionally agreed to examine the ethical considerations that should, in future, underpin the relationships between the Metropolitan Police and the media, how to ensure maximum transparency and public confidence, and provide advice".
The management board of the Met has "agreed a new set of guidelines relating to relationships with the media, including recording meetings and hospitality and publication on the internet".
• Investigation into police corruption:
Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) has been asked to consider "instances of undue influence, inappropriate contractual arrangements and other abuses of power in police relationships with the media and other parties".
• Review of IPCC powers:
IPCC chief executive, Jane Furniss, has told the Home Secretary she has the power she needs for now but the Home Secretary has "commissioned work to consider whether the IPCC needs further powers, including whether it should be given the power to question civilian witnesses during the course of their investigations".
Ms May said: "Given that the IPCC can at present only investigate specific allegations against individual officers, I have also asked whether the Commission needs to have a greater role in investigating allegations about institutional failings of a force or forces."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Oh and:

16.35 Breaking: David Cameron will now curtail his Africa trip - having already shortened it once and insisted earlier today he would not do so again.

At this rate he'll be refused reentry as an undesirable.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

i so want one of the principles to try to flee the country while they can

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Re: Hague. Let's put the (purely platonic) bed sharing with attractive pouting young (male) political "advisers" to one side then, shall we?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

PRINCIPALS

godfkndamnit

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

The principles themselves having long since gone.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

4.38pm: My colleague Vikram Dodd tells me that the home affairs committee has Lord Macdonald, director of public prosecutions at at the time of the first phone hacking prosecution in 2007, to appear before it tomorrow in a special session. Macdonald has been criticised because he has subsequently agreed to do some work for News International.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

it is seriously difficult to keep all this shit straight

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone is arresting everyone else before they resign during a committee appearance.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

isn't it gonna be quicker to pull in everybody who hasn't been paid by News Corp?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

The room would be empty.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile, speaking of committees and things:

Paul Dacre tells draft defamation bill committee he's never encountered hacking or blagging by journalists

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

or anything resembling "journalism", in his newsroom.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Related:

Dacre, when asked re hacking and blagging ever justified:"Goodness me, deep waters"

Who is this guy again? Besides being the Daily Mail doofus and all.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Uh

No.10 confirms it missed off PM media meetings list last wk a "social engagement" with RBrooks."It was administrative error"

https://twitter.com/#!/paulwaugh/status/92974742927196160

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Way too many of those admin errors IMO.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

Betting odds do not mean "lol he might go"

It's basically the lowest price that can attract people to buy a ticket for lolreasons...

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

14.54 Boris Johnson appears to have lost his temper at a question from Jon Snow

Hold up, the Night's Watch is now involved?!?

online pinata store (Nicole), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

so anticipating dacre's downfall - surely imminent, if he had nothing to hide surely he'd be GOING IIIIINNNNN right now

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hold up, the Night's Watch is now involved?!?

DJP already got there. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL, R4 PM just opened with this as the intro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Oh dear, looks like Murdoch using his goons to send Cameron a 'don't fuck with me' message:

Sky's Adam Boulton says there was a social meeting between Ms Brooks, James Murdoch and the Prime Minister that was not originally revealed.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

i need this to be the intro music to a news programme v soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_-GiF77St0

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

5.23pm: John Yates has just given a public statement about his resignation. Here are the key points.

• Yates said that he had acted "with complete integrity" and that his conscience was clear.

• He said that "ill-informed" and occasional "downright malicious gossip" was making it impossible for him to carry on doing his counter-terrorism job.

• He said that he looked forward to the inquiry showing that he behaved properly when he reviewed the phone hacking case in 2009.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

• That would be £500 please

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Mr Miliband continues on Mr Cameron: "He must take ultimate responsibility for the conduct of his Government. I'm not saying he should go, but he should come clean."
Think Ed's finally got his words right.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Way too many of those admin errors IMO.

it would be totally hypocritical of me not to give anyone a free pass for admin errors at all times :/

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, but your admin errors really ARE admin errors.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

John Yates has just given a public statement about his resignation

aka Yates' whines lodged

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

The ExNOTWJourno2 Twitter feed is making something of this:

Boss of the parent group of UK mobile phone networks Orange and T-Mobile is standing down for "personal reasons"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

yah that is what my brother is working on, it's some wild wild stuff

caek, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm with T-mobile, do you think I could use this as grounds for ditching my contract with them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

A new rush of things:

17.41 The IPCC says it is investigating four senior officers or former officers.

Quote We have today received referrals from the Metropolitan Police Authority about the conduct of four current or former senior Metropolitan Police officers. The matters referred involve:
• The conduct of the Met Commissioner in carrying overall responsibility for the investigation into phone hacking
• The conduct of Assistant Commissioner John Yates: in his review in July 2009 and overall role in relation to the phone hacking investigation; and in his alleged involvement in inappropriately securing employment for the daughter of a friend;
• The conduct of two former senior officers in their role in the phone hacking investigation.

17.33 Breaking: IPCC investigating claims John Yates inappropriately secured employment for Neil Wallis's daughter

The IPCC says it is investigating John Yates for his role in the phone-hacking investigation but also for securing inappropriate employment for the daughter of a friend. Our crime correspondent Mark Hughes says that that friend is understood to be Neil Wallis.

17.30 More info on the social engagement with Rebekah Brooks inadvertently left off the list released by Downing Street last week. Apparently it was Cameron's birthday party.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

T-Mobile and Orange just merged about a year ago, so is it an Orange person or a T-Mobile person?

Vodafone are on the African jolly with Cameron BTW.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

More info on the social engagement with Rebekah Brooks inadvertently left off the list released by Downing Street last week. Apparently it was Cameron's birthday party.

Holy shitbags, this is a gift that'll keep on giving.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

haha otm that's a narrative right there

caek, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

And now this?

BREAKING Former and current DPPs (Ken Macdonald and Keir Starmer) to give evidence to MPs on home affairs select cttee tomororrow

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Sources close to the company said they expected Alexander to be followed out of the door by a "wave" of senior executives.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Though I gather this is the same Macdonald mentioned earlier.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Sky's Mark Yates says that the IPCC are not confirming that the daughter of Neil Wallis, the former NOTW deputy editor, was the person who gained employment thanks to John Yates.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

"happy birthday dave!!!"

"a... shit sandwich! just what i always wanted!"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

More info on the social engagement with Rebekah Brooks inadvertently left off the list released by Downing Street last week. Apparently it was Cameron's birthday party.

oh maaaaaaan, amazing

"admin error"!!! just HAPPENED to be dave's b'day!

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

But, but, his birthday is in October?

carson dial, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Sean Hoare, the former News of the World showbiz reporter who was the first named journalist to allege Andy Coulson was aware of phone hacking by his staff, has been found dead, the Guardian has learned.

Hoare, who worked on the Sun and the News of the World with Coulson before being dismissed for drink and drugs problems, is said to have been found dead at his Watford home.

Hertfordshire police would not confirm his identity, but the force said in a statement: "At 10.40am today [Monday 18 July] police were called to Langley Road, Watford, following the concerns for welfare of a man who lives at an address on the street. Upon police and ambulance arrival at a property, the body of a man was found. The man was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after.

"The death is currently being treated as unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious. Police investigations into this incident are ongoing."

???

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

oh christ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare

News of the World phone hacking whistleblower found dead

Death of Sean Hoare – who was first named journalist to allege Andy Coulson knew of hacking – not being treated as suspicious

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

shit got real-er

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

And now this?

BREAKING Former and current DPPs (Ken Macdonald and Keir Starmer) to give evidence to MPs on home affairs select cttee tomororrow
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:54 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

IIRC Ken Macdonald was an adulterer, what did NOTW have on him?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Speaking to a Guardian reporter last week, Hoare repeatedly expressed the hope that the hacking scandal would lead to journalism in general being cleaned up and said he had decided to blow the whistle on the activities of some of his former News of the World colleagues with that aim in mind.

He also said he has been injured at a party the previous weekend while taking down a marquee erected for a children's party. He said he had broken his nose and badly injured his foot when a relative accidentally struck him with a heavy pole from the marquee.

Hoare also emphasised that he was not making any money from telling his story. Hoare, who has been treated for drug and alcohol problems, reminisced about partying with former pop stars and said he missed the days when he was able to go out on the town.

dear lord there is a freight of insinuation in these three paragraphs.

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

guys if somebody wanted Hoare out of the way this probly wasn't the best week?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

what a weird coinkydink tho

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Not suggesting that - dude had some issues and 24/7 news cycle probably not adding much value to his mental health. As far as speaking out about Coulson, though, he was the canary in the mineshaft.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Must have been a hell of a pole to break a nose and injure a foot at the same time.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm...

ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
RIP Sean.. Now i'm really going to go for the jugular.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

And from our founder:

tomewing Tom Ewing
"The death is not being treated as suspicious, except by everyone reading about it."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

18.19 Sean Hoare, who has reportedly been found dead, made fresh allegations against the News of the World last week in the New York Times.

"A former show-business reporter for The News of the World, Sean Hoare, who was fired in 2005, said that when he worked there, pinging cost the paper nearly $500 on each occasion. He first found out how the practice worked, he said, when he was scrambling to find someone and was told that one of the news desk editors, Greg Miskiw, could help. Mr. Miskiw asked for the person’s cellphone number, and returned later with information showing the person’s precise location in Scotland, Mr. Hoare said. Mr. Miskiw, who faces questioning by police on a separate matter, did not return calls for comment."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZ2FA-epcE&feature=player_detailpage#t=70s

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

HackneyAbbott

IPCC investigating the Met Police top brass. I wouldn't worry too much, if I was Yates and co. IPCC a toothless tiger.
2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

toothless tigers usually arent congenitally toothless tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

nick davies has a warm farewell piece for sean hoare up:

he had bought, sold and snorted cocaine with some of the most powerful names in tabloid journalism. One retains a senior position on the Daily Mirror. "I last saw him in Little Havana," he recalled, "at three in the morning, on his hands and knees. He had lost his cocaine wrap. I said to him, 'This is not really the behaviour we expect of a senior journalist from a great Labour paper.' He said, 'Have you got any fucking drugs?'"

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7DgOeMnW4

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

guys if somebody wanted Hoare out of the way this probly wasn't the best week?

then again, if you wanted him out of the way and knew the police also had a vested interest in his removal, really the sooner the better - especially if you know the police will report it as 'not suspicious' no matter what

Michael B, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

^^^also no idea how long he'd been there before they found him, yes?

Inquest, when?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

this is not the uk politics thread!

max, Monday, 18 July 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Think you're looking for the other thread dowd

xp

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

I thought this was the new UK pol thread and the other was locked! sorry about that - I guess the silence on the other confused me.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

The previous DEM-CON threas was locked, that one is the new one.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, I must have got lost between the two.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/mystery-bag-bin-rebekah-brooks

would be some real poetic justice in people rooting through a tabloid editor's bins preceding their downfall

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

it does sorta sound like the least believable story as yet presented in this saga

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.foxnewsuk.com/

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

blowing whistles in heaven now

am0n, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

NYTimes goes in. HUGE amount of allegations, go nuts. Plus plenty of roffles:

Mr. Dacre, The Daily Mail editor, told his senior managers that he had received several reports from businesspeople, soccer stars and public relations agencies that the News International executives Will Lewis and Simon Greenberg had encouraged them to investigate whether their phones had been hacked by Daily Mail newspapers . “They thought it was unfair that all the focus was on The News of the World,” said one News International official with knowledge of the effort. The two men have told colleagues they did not make such calls, but two company officials disputed that.

Mr. Dacre confronted Ms. Brooks over breakfast at the plush Brown’s hotel. “You are trying to tear down the entire industry,” Mr. Dacre told her, according to an account he relayed to his management team.

Ms. Brooks, whose tenacity is legendary, was not deterred. At a dinner party, Lady Claudia Rothermere, the wife of the billionaire owner of The Daily Mail, overheard Ms. Brooks saying that The Mail was just as culpable as The News of the World. “We didn’t break the law,” Lady Rothermere said, according to two sources with knowledge of the exchange. Ms. Brooks asked who Lady Rothermere thought she was, “Mother Teresa?”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

re: dacre, thought this was interesting:

Asked whether unlawful newsgathering techniques could ever be justified, he said: "Goodness me, deep waters. I have considerable sympathy that if there's a great public interest then those methods can be justified."

However, he added later: "I don't think you should ever use hacking or blagging as a [public interest] defence because they're criminal offences."

like how much room is he leaving here for diff readings of 'if there's a great public interest' - like there is an obvious defence when it's regarding genuine journalistic enquiry, but given that the daily mail peddles a lot of gutter bullshit about cellulite and celebrity affairs that, y'know, there's a great public interest in, it's p interesting.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Mr. Murdoch was attending a conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, in early July when it became clear that the latest eruption of the hacking scandal was not, as he first thought, a passing problem. According to a person briefed on the conversation, he proposed to one senior executive that he “fly commercial to London,” so he might be seen as man of the people. He was told that would hardly do the trick, and he arrived on a Gulfstream G550 private jet.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

"Get me a ticket on Freddie Laker's airline."

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

not really keeping up w/ this thread, but the wsj editorial about this is hilariously small-minded and cunty

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

The Bancrofts were admirable owners in many ways, but at the end of their ownership their appetite for dividends meant that little cash remained to invest in journalism. We shudder to think what the Journal would look like today without the sale to News Corp.

read: "our only loyalty is to power, you can basically ignore what we say"

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

Really don't think Lady Rothmere is as bad as Mother Teresa, to be fair.

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

"The British politicians now bemoaning media influence over politics are also the same statesmen who have long coveted media support."

logic.ppt

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

And how the WSJ will trumpet this:

9.26pm: Standard and Poor's have put News Corp on negative credit watch, according to the AFP news agency.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

What time does it kick off tomorrow?

� (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14194623

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm.

10.00pm: Three Police officers carrying cameras and wearing white forensic suits arrived a short time ago at Sean Hoare's flat in Watford.
Fifteen minutes earlier, at about 9.15pm, a police van marked "Scientific Services Unit" pulled up at the address, a block of flats that the journalist moved into in November 2009.
The Press Association reports that two officers emerged carrying evidence bags, clipboards, torches and laptop-style bags and entered the building.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaow

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing suspicious here obviously.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck 'UK end of season finale', it's getting more like '24' end of season finale.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

One of the more ridiculous later seasons, too.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Britain, you really have the best scandals ever.

StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

My mom has not fallen for the dismissal of the story a la Fox and is actually going to watch the Parliamentary hearing, even if she has to go to C-SPAN. I really hope this is her big Helen Keller moment with this shit. OTOH: "Who's the redhead? Is sex involved?"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

the hackers hacked:

http://whois.domaintools.com/new-times.co.uk

http://www.new-times.co.uk/sun/

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

now thesun.co.uk is redirecting to the hacked page.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

omg @ that hack

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

wow!

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know he had a famous topiary garden!

StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

this is awesome!

owenf, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

I know newscorp people on fb who were all like 'uuuh not dead, hacker fail' and the links they posted are redirecting to the hack.

owenf, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

fucking hell ed miliband is a robot

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like the AnonymouSabu twitter account is going even further (no idea if what they are posting is actually real)

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

What do those numbers do though?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

This is absolutely nuts in a predictable "what zeitgeisty infosec trope hasn't turned up yet?" way.

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

xpost
Think it's a cryptographic key to store the password?

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Yes... The password hashes and salts are needed to decrypt the passwords.. Using these details the passwords could be cracked in seconds...

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

The Sun homepage thesun.co.uk now redirects to the LulzSec twitter page

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

this is all just spiffy

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

End of season now feels too small, somehow...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

SABU

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

i seriously would never have imagined that the parly grilling tomorrow would end up feeling like a sideshow

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

This is crazy. I've got to interview someone discussed on this thread tomorrow - musician - first thing and I know we are going to spend half of it not talking about anything but this.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

Waking up is brilliant these days. I need to take a day off just to work through the past few hours.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

11.37pm: A News International spokeswoman has confirmed to the Press Association that the company was "aware" of what was happening, but made no further comment.

What else could be said, anyway? "Uh, yeah, we're fucked."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

xp wooooow

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

This is crazy. I've got to interview someone discussed on this thread tomorrow - musician

Say hi to Mr. Michael for us!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

Via twitter:

PaulLewis

I've been at Sean Hoare's house. Police/ambulance there 11am-3pm. Then nothing. Story breaks. Forensics arrive 9pm.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha Ned, unlike GM, this interviewee has never had a homosexual experience.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

Say hi to William Hague for us!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

looool

i mean just in the last 24 hours there's been

- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower
- a mysterious bag with computer and files in it found near rebekah brooks' house
- hackers who claim to have snaffled all NOTW and the Sun's emails

in the 24 hrs before that there was rebekah brooks' arrest and the chief of scotland yard's resignation. this is starting to make "house of cards" look unimaginative

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

BTW if this were happening to any other news org the Post would have NEWS CORPSE for tomorrow's HL.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

i will now admit that this may actually be somewhat of a big deal

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

i mean just in the last 24 hours there's been

- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower
- a mysterious bag with computer and files in it found near rebekah brooks' house
- hackers who claim to have snaffled all NOTW and the Sun's emails

in the 24 hrs before that there was rebekah brooks' arrest and the chief of scotland yard's resignation. this is starting to make "house of cards" look unimaginative

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 08:46 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol and you left off John Yates

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

xp i may concur.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

ned t you are making me feel bad with that display name

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower

wait who has suggested it was suicide?

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

Widely reported as "not suspicious" until just recently.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

just a whistleblower killing self after scandal breaks nbd

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

suicide or murder aren't the only options! he had a long history of heavy drinking and drug use and nick davies recounted this:

In the end, his body would not take it any more. He said he started to have fits, that his liver was in such a terrible state that a doctor told him he must be dead.

quite prepared to believe he was murdered, especially as the news of the world private detective jonathan rees, who was accused of killing a guy with an axe, is still at large, but there are reasons to believe this guy was ready to go at any time.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

Course if it turns out he was slowly poisoned like the ex-KGB dude...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

row row fight the power

Lulzsec scares me.

I met Sean Hoare a couple of times at music dos in the late 90s. Nice guy, usually pissed (as in drunk, not angry).

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

NI and Times sites also down/hacked. perhaps include the Mail's site out of fairness?

blueski, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

quite prepared to believe he was murdered, especially as the news of the world private detective jonathan rees, who was accused of killing a guy with an axe, is still at large, but there are reasons to believe this guy was ready to go at any time.

― joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:14 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Definitely an easy target, then. The timing cannot be ignored.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

you're not making any sense. the fact that he was very possibly ill and likely to die of natural causes means... that it's easier to murder him? but you were implying it was a presumed suicide earlier. our putative murderer can't have made it look like suicide and natural causes all at once.

there's enough conspiracy here already without jumping to conclusions and making your own.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

Conspiracy theorists embarrassing themselves on this one IMO. As with David Kelly, (a) it's too late - the damage is done and (b) you don't go knocking people off in the full glare of the media spotlight.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

Tell that to Bin Laden / Saddam Hussein

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

you're not making any sense. the fact that he was very possibly ill and likely to die of natural causes means... that it's easier to murder him?

It's an obvious alibi.

but you were implying it was a presumed suicide earlier. our putative murderer can't have made it look like suicide and natural causes all at once.

I said the press reported suicide.

there's enough conspiracy here already without jumping to conclusions and making your own.

How about not jamming words into my mouth.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

So if the lulzsec crew makes available the full data grab to UK/US cops, can any of that be used legally, if not as admissible evidence, then something?

Also, iPhones now autocomplete for 'lulzsec'. FYI.

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

xp where did the press report a suicide, is what i originally asked? it wasn't in any of the reports i read (guardian, mostly).

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

Widely reported as "not suspicious" until just recently.

― invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:05 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, I just realised you probably didn't know that "not suspicious" is press code for suicide.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

it wouldn't also be used if it just seemed like someone had died of natural causes or in circumstances in which it didn't ... seem ... suspicious?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

xp i work as a news reporter, and i know that if you assume a "not suspicious" death is a suicide, you sometimes get made to look like a fool.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

It is more often than not code for suicide, though. If someone died of natural causes they say that.

stet, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

CNBC saying Murdoch Jr considering position.

stet, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

conclusion: fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

blueski, Monday, 18 July 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

We covered the suicide/no-suspicious-circumstances thing in detail at uni in the '90s. Right now all I can find is mentions on various blogs and page 2 of this (opens a pdf).

xxp AWESOME

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Monday, 18 July 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

who is Louise Boat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG7IURgryjA

zappi, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

Think CNBC meant Rupert going too and I picked it up wrong.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

joe i'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole "not suspicious" convention in the uk. you're saying it could mean an OD?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

In a number of paper style books I've seen the advice for reporting suicides is to report them as deaths not in suspicious circumstances, because of the risk of copycats. Accidental ODs can be and are reported as such

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

From that pdf link I posted (Aus Parliament House):

At the time of the establishment of the Press Council in 1976, the Australian press tended not
to report suicide, whether the story related to a particular self-harm incident or to a coronial
inquiry into such an incident. In order to avoid references to suicide, the press employed in
such reports some circumlocutions that persist to this day, for example, "the police say that
there were no suspicious circumstances".

As stet said it's by no means nomenclature that applies only to suicides but it's reasonable to interpret it that way unless explicitly informed otherwise.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

so.... what are the other things it can mean?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

joe i'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole "not suspicious" convention in the uk. you're saying it could mean an OD?

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:01 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't think it's necessarily a convention in this case, they've probably not carried out a postmortem yet so all they know is that there's a sudden death with no obvious external cause. there are coded euphemisms for violent deaths, when "no suspicious circumstances" does mean that the only logical conclusion is suicide. but for non-violent deaths then "not suspicious" can just mean a guy died, and that's it - but when someone dies randomly in watford and neighbours call the police after they've not been seen for a few days, it's not usually national news.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

Given most stories still say unexplained-but-not-thought-suspicious, I think it currently means anything from natural causes to OD to suicide, but no obvious foul play.
xp

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

accidental death would be another 'not suspicious' one

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

This isn't really a universal code, no, but once the death is explained, most of these other explanations would be reported as such. The report would just say "believed to have died of an accidental drug overdose" or "accidental death". When you have an explained death that's reported as nothing other than "the circumstances are not believed to be suspicious" that's usually a p. clear code for suicide.

Because this is so high-profile, though, they won't be circumspect about it -- people will report if it's thought to be suicide (cf David Kelly) rather than dancing around it. But it sounds like the cause of death isn't clear, so it's going to take autopsy etc before that happens.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

I feel this story would be complete if they could get that nice Freddie Patel to do the post mortem.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

Because this is so high-profile, though, they won't be circumspect about it -- people will report if it's thought to be suicide (cf David Kelly) rather than dancing around it.

Yeah, if a suicide is that high-profile somebody will get to the big headline first. I'm now so accustomed to seeing local reports of e.g. a road death attributed to 'no suspicious circumstances' that I rarely think twice about it.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

it's such a cocktease of a phrase

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/IPLPc.jpg

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

cameron-and-a-hoodie.jpg

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

from toynbee today, btw:

the Mail on Sunday reported that Cameron intended to hire the BBC's Guto Harri as his press secretary. So close, apparently, was the appointment that the Harri family visited the Camerons one weekend in 2007 at Chipping Norton to discuss it, but the job went to Andy Coulson after Rebekah Brooks "is said to have told Mr Cameron that the post should go to Mr Coulson to strengthen links between the Tories and News International". Is this true? Reviewing the papers on the Andrew Marr programme on Sunday, I pointed out this story and said Harri was well-known in the BBC as a straight-as-a-die, honest man. I was pleased to get a text from Harri just after the show saying "Thanks". Does that mean it is true? I called Harri, who now works for Boris Johnson, to check. Yes, he said he'd heard tell that his name was not acceptable to News International. "I heard it as gossip on the grapevine – but I have no idea whether or not it's true. Yes, I did talk to David Cameron about taking the job – but whilst I lingered they'd clearly approached Andy Coulson." He had a good idea who the source from the Sun was for the story. How Cameron must wish he had given Harri the job. The idea that News International planted their man in the heart of Downing Street is truly shocking.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol yesterday's guardian liveblog

8.29am: "The number of dead bodies on the stage is beginning to resemble the final scene of a Shakespearian tragedy" is how the Guardian puts it today.

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-19/news-corp-share-slump-murdoch/2799888

News Corp total value down an estimated 20%/US$9b since all this started. DELICIOUS.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

It is going to be interesting after all the fallout to see how (if?) this changes the tone of bias in news reportage in the media in general.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

i know lol no-one buys papers but are there any figures re: how the sun/times has done this month?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

@DavidPrescott What a truly bizarre coincidence. The bodies of Sean Hoare and David Kelly were both discovered on July 18.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

Nice little overview of the board via Sorkin:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/murdochs-board-stays-silent-as-scandal-widens/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

timebomb about to go off y/n

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

All the hacked sites seem to be completely down now--anyone got a screencap or something showing what the hackers did?

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

Fantastic! Thanks

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/92159/news-corp-vs-its-critics

/meta
/uscentric

we covered the redolently desperate WSJ editorial itt already, but it was even worse that i thought

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

News Corp papers worldwide seem to be covering this thing in two ways:

1. by focusing entirely on the phone hacking aspect (as if to say "right well we've done our job as journalists, let's move on")
2. by cranking up the noise about anything at all that serves as an effective distraction

I'm not allowing myself to ~really~ believe it just yet, but this is starting to feel like the death of News Corp as a political force. Those WSJ pieces are the kicking and screaming laid bare.

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

papers media outlets

invite ← VERB (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

Remember how last week there was the fuss over Cameron hosting The Sun's Police Bravery Awards at Downing Street? The next night he hosted a Downing Street reception "to commemorate the top 100 companies listed in The Sunday Times Profit Track 100 2011 awards".

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 07:18 (twelve years ago) link

9.18am: Chris Bryant, the Labour MP who has been campaigning on phone hacking for ages, has just dropped an intriguing hint about "more to come" in an interview on BBC News.

The theatre of [today's appearance] is irrelevant. In the end we've got to get to the bottom of what is a very murky pool. And I tell you Rebekah Brooks was right. We're only half way into that pool at the moment. There's stuff about Surrey police as well and other things that are still to come out.

The Millie Dowler investigation was handled by Surrey police. So was Abigail Witchalls iirc.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

it's kind of amazing to me that less has been made of hacking of the soham victims' families

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron in full photo-bombing mode

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

it's kind of amazing to me that less has been made of hacking of the soham victims' families

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:13 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's gone so fast that im not sure the full extent of the hacking is common knowledge. was sarah payne's family hacked? remember this as a rumour. but the milly dowler story has stood for all the rest.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's Louise Boat stood behind him btw xp

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.isdavidcameronstillprimeminister.com/

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

LOLz...

"Bookmakers William Hill are offering odds of 16/1 about "under pressure" PM David Cameron being out of office by the weekend."

Bigger LOLz...

"London Mayor Boris Johnson, at 4/1, is favourite to replace him as permanent leader of the Conservative Party"

What was Darren Clarke again? 150-1?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

What's the best (online) way to watch the questioning this afternoon?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

The evil BBC are the only people allowed to broadcast Parliament I think?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:06 (twelve years ago) link

Melanie Phillips won't be happy about this...

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, really? xps Thanks

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:10 (twelve years ago) link

CNN.com will stream the entire testimony live on its website as well as through a number of mobile apps.
C-SPAN will stream the testimony live as well on C-SPAN3.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks James!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, really?

Actually, now I come to think of it, no!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

:-)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

has the headline "Hacky Sack" been used yet?

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

^ nice

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

Can I listen to it? Is it on R4 or 5live or something?

hand me the banana of shame (NotEnough), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/5live

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

Will anywhere be helpfully liveblogging the thing for those of us unfortunate enough not to be allowed speakers/headphones at work?

(updates and comments on this thread will suffice, I guess, probably better than untrustworthy media outlets anyway)

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

the guardian is still the go-to thing for this i think
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/19/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch-rebekah-brooks-mps

w/an eye on twitter which is slightly quicker for peripherally related stuff

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

For a politician to call for political control of the press is pretty sinister. Having spent the last decade and a half cosying up to the Murdoch press, Labour are now trying to turn this into a political vendetta which threatens to damage our democracy. Ed Miliband needs to distance himself from his mentor immediately.
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/leftwatch/2011/07/in-kinnocks-ideal-world-thered-be-no-mail-sun-or-telegraph-just-a-government-regulated-national-info.html

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

what a disaster for neil kinnock

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

Can why the Tories are running with this angle, after all it worked in 1983.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

between that & vetting a proposed labour addition to the committee last night, the tories recalcitrance is nagl; just further compounds the image of them as resistant to any change, & mired in it all

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

Like anyone has listened to anything Neil Kinnock has had to say since "WELL, AWWLLLLLLLLLLRIIIIIIIIGGHHHHHT!"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

lol

will all this be a huge anti-climax, y/n, paying special attention to how disappointing this kind of thing usually is. i guess it's interesting to see how brooks plays it under the spotlight and all.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

is there any more news on the anonymous/lulzsec/antisec hack? The redirect was fun and all, but are they really now sitting on a huge pile of NI emails?

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

Anti-climax: information and reveal-wise I'd say yes. But they are put on the spot. Hope the MPs questions won't be too cringe-worthy or facepalm.gif

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

's a pity Chris Bryant's not on this committee

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

ya it will be fun to see them shifting around in their seats like the grim reptilians they surely are

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

You're referring to the as-yet-unexamined David Icke theory about Hackgate, I take it?

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

is anyone running a book on how often they'll say I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS THAT

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

Face? Bovvered? Catherine Tate shoo-in for Rebekah role in any upcoming drama?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

Does anybody else think she's been pulling "Nicole Kidman" faces in all the photos recently, trying to affect the selection process for "someone to play me in the eventual movie"

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

^ ha, yes. But it's still a gimme for Tate (if Mick Hucknall decides he doesn't want a career in acting).

Cheers for Grauniad suggestion, will prob do that along with Twitter and this thread.

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

I am not expecting much new information to emerge from the hearings today. However from the imaginary film version perspective, forcing Rupert Murdoch to answer questions on the affair in a public forum must surely count as a dramatic highlight.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

I am pretty ignorant re the MPs on the committee - given that they are politicians I presume that a fair amount of grandstanding / showboating is likely?

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

People have started saying WRONG a lot, I've noticed.

"We now recognise this was WRONG."

Such a handy word. It sounds forceful and conclusive, and yet it's such a fudge at heart. What KIND of wrong?

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

Notice how Stephenson is rubbing his watch with his right index-finger almost all the time

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think the masons can help him now

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEszTzdUMcY

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

Notice how Stephenson is rubbing his watch with his right index-finger almost all the time

― Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:27 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess Al Calavicci isn't showing up just yet.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

nicola blackwood POW

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

(Side question: What the fuck is Julian Assange doing playing rhythm guitar for Cher in that video?)

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

Per the NYTimes piece on News Corp's - News Corpse? Noose Corpse? - this will end with Murdoch literally buying Parliament.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:35 (twelve years ago) link

i am kind of bored now, there's only so long a man finding new ways of saying DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING NO REASON FOR ME TO KNOW ANYTHING can be entertaining

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

Phone hacking was not a priority for the Met, admits Sir Paul, unlike the "night stalker" rapist case, the murder of Stephen Lawrence...

Did a really good job on those two cases guys *thumbs up*

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

And know he's quite obviously beating around the bush.

THERE'S A REASON I HAD DINNER WITH NOTW A MILLION TIMES.. BUT I AGREE THIS SHOULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. The question was, WHY did you dine with them so often.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

He was hungry.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

lol at this:

@BBCMichaelCrick
Michael Crick
Rumour among Cons MPs that Coulson kept diary since joining Cam. Sensational if so. Even Coulson memoirs 2014 cld wreck Cons election hopes

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

£1,000 a day and wallis was the cheapest option available?!

*changes career*

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

My workmates would give no fuck about this shit at all but I'm still tempted to use it as an excuse to be late tomorrow.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

Woke up to this on the radio. How come everyone in the room keeps laughing?

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

Depressing lunchroom convo today: workmate peruses paper, says "oh, [AFL footy player] is resigning". I'm like "uh whatever... how about this Murdoch scandal?" and he looked at me like I grew 2 heads :(

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

I got that too Trayce, from people who read murdoch tabloids

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

We only have the Age at work in the lunch room, there was no excuse! :(

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

But, even my own bf had no idea about all this shenanigans, but he is in the middle of a masters thesis so I'll give him a pass.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

A key phone-hacking suspect worked for senior detectives while he was chief crime reporter of the News of the World, the Standard reveals today.

The activities of Neville Thurlbeck, which date back to 1995, trigger new fears of collusion between the Met and the press.

Thurlbeck, who was arrested on suspicion of illegally accessing voicemail messages in April, has admitted working as an official police source under the codename "George".

He gave a "substantial volume of information that was extremely useful" to Scotland Yard and the security services.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23971221-hacking-suspect-worked-as-police-informer.do

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

This is all turning out like a season 3 Bab 5 episode mixed with Jennifer Government :/

Bloompsday (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

Could be worse, my boss defended Murdoch on Monday. Because he didn't know anything was happening, y'know.

Scritti Eros Poli (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

KathViner

Stephenson: 10 out of 45 press officers at the Met have worked for NI! #hackgate
3 minutes ago via web

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

everyone has just says 'ask yates' so far

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

Stephenson: 10 out of 45 press officers at the Met have worked for NI! #hackgate
3 minutes ago via web

it sounds like a technicality but i was surprised that this question was phrased based on current data - eg, how many ex-NI staff are there now, rather than over the past decade, throughout key periods, etc, how many ex-NI staff have there been on hand

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

Finally!

I thought it'd be out last week as a special. Too much happening I guess.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link

vaz's attack dog style is getting plaudits but i'm also taken by nicola blackwood's dry-as-a-bone supercilious approach. speaking very slowly as though to a slightly stupid six-year-old.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link

Yates up next.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

boggling at how fedorcio attained such a senior position in any organisation, that was embarrassing

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

#scintillagate

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

Alistair Campbell on Daily Politics right now...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

chief of staff again!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

HE IS THE MOLE

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

Media committee's John Whittingdale is Facebook friends with Rebekah Brooks

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8644425/Phone-hacking-Media-committees-John-Whittingdale-is-Facebook-friends-with-Rebekah-Brooks.html

John Whittingdale MP is also friends with Les Hinton, a long time Murdoch ally who quit last week.

Mr Whittingdale, the Tory chairman of the Commons’ Culture, Media and Sport committee, is the only MP among 93 “friends” of Mr Hinton on the social networking website.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

the nuances of what a scoping is

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

tom watson was repping for this guy, & a previous step he took in extending the enquiry, but yeah it's a significant enough conflict that you wouldn't think he'd be there

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

I want to compile a list of all the funny linguistic habits these guys have, it’s so peculiar hearing them speak. I liked the guy who said, 'i’d say that that’s slightly over-egging the pudding ... to put it mildly!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

senior police officers have a peculiarly clunky officious cant

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

are you writing cockney phonetically there

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

peculiarly clunky officious cant

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

haw

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol his 'no....no..' just now was quite reminiscent of hugh abbott's select committee appearance

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

no hand over mouth tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

you interrupted my flow

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

peculiarly clunky officious cant

Sounds like Andy Hayman, "Gawblimey, on my muvva's eyes, I never took a bung in me life, straight up!"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

quit it while i spit it blackwood

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

breakin ma flow blud

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

seriously what has ed llewelyn been doing is he just on ilx all day at work while critical issues pile up on his desk

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

Thought they'd actually have to go into the House of Commons.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

"Biographer Michael Wolff is suggesting Rupert Murdoch could resign before the culture committee."

Is that guy on crack?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

remember that old rumour about how arthur lee blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.? michael wolff is talking about it re: murdoch's culture committee appearance

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

BBC live feed a shambles - anybody have a better one?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

remember that old rumour about how arthur lee blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.?

No!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

here's one - http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

and the feed direct from the government -

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8910

currently playing test tones

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

Is the new Eye actually out? My local South London places have only got the last one so far. Was already stoked enough for the schadenfreude before I saw that cover.

MPx4A, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.?

Hoping that'll be Cameron's resignation speech tbh

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

ha

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

"No
One
Cares
(bang!)
for me...."

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

remember that old rumour about how arthur lee blew his brains out onstage at the end of signed d.c.?

No!

mm, i wonder if i can find it; it sorta got rolled up amongst all the donut-store-robbery bullshit that dogged them for awhile, and circulated, apparently, while he was out of sight in the eighties i guess - that him & his band were playing and he killed himself.

i can't really find anything other than this amusing list of just crazy rumours-
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:57ce15iS-PYJ:psychedelic-rocknroll.blogspot.com/2011/02/forever-changes-arthur-lee-love-book.html+arthur+lee+suicide+rumor+donut&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

Did "Arthur Lee" collect pigeons and dye them, so he could watch all the colors fly through the sky?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's funny how the cops under interrogation seem never to spend any time fighting crime.

Just reviewing employment procedure and seeking assurances.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

kinda has a the red telephone ring to it

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

IT'S ON

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

<3

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

MURDOCH TIME

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

i'm just a gigolo
and everywhere i go
people know the part dave's playin

http://songspeak.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nuts11.jpg

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

CSPAN2 still carrying yates...

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck, I can't get any site to work

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

this one's working fine for me -

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8910

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

v. v. humble.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

humble my arse

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

"The most humble day of my life."

Tomorrow should eclipse that, KRM.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

sheeit, james murdoch just put many drinking game-players into comas with that opening line.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

rupert looks like a cane toad that's about to get whacked by a golf club.

estela, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

this is so weird. that interjection from murdoch apropos of nothing "this is the most humble day of my life"? o_0

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

GIVE ME A GOLF CLUB

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

it's not very humble to interrupt someone in order to announce that it's the most humble day of your life.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think they should have RM's wife (?) nodding along behind them - no cheerleaders. Yates et al don't get them.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

"actions don't meet standards of company" = "we didn't get away with it"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

lol joe OTM

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

This bloke's looking more like Monty Burns every day

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

james looks like an amphibian d miliband
xp

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

JM is quite a character
v American
ve eloquent
loud
dull
hard to penetrate

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

The murder of a whistleblower does not meet the standards of our company -- we have sacked the hitman who did the job.

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

llewelyn becoming a fall guy for this would be such a crock of shit; the idea that warnings on eg coulson's conduct were limited to things that went through him would be absurd

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

jimmy's eyes remind me of

http://sp2.fotolog.com/photo/34/59/72/krudaverdad/1266784981765_f.jpg

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

LIZARD PERSON

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

ahahaha

charltonbrooker Burns interrupts Smithers.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

"Shuddupaminit James, I'm a gonna let you speak in aminute..."

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny having someone who can speak fluently & commandingly after the parade of mps & police, who (not a criticism) just spoke regularly

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's not very humble to interrupt someone in order to announce that it's the most humble day of your life.

that, and murdoch minor making a separate statement before answering the first qn = status assertion after the committee told em they couldn't open with statements

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

<3 <3 LOOOOOOOOL Smithers/Burns

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

Lawyers advised him to spend 48 minutes apologising y/n

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

james is just relying on verbal white noise

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

Dan Perry, needing you now...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert Murdoch looked relaxed going into the Commons hearing. His son James, however, was bricking it

http://twitter.com/#!/Kevin_Maguire/status/93314239573405696

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

the amazing (to me) revelation that R Murdoch's mother is still alive was perfect for the Mr Burns thing.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

mm, i wonder if i can find it; it sorta got rolled up amongst all the donut-store-robbery bullshit that dogged them for awhile, and circulated, apparently, while he was out of sight in the eighties i guess - that him & his band were playing and he killed himself.

Never heard that one. Am still awaiting independent confirmation that the snot caked against his pants turned to crystal.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

just a repeated lol at this is the humblest day of my life btw, i am going to say this like when i tread on someone's food in the lunch queue, etc. just like ... a minute after it happens.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

frogman otm, tactic is clearly to filibuster

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

JM is quite a character
v American

For an Australian Brit

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

could be in that little barney hoskyns book, kinda years since i heard it & mmm yknow it wasn't true etc. i don't know that it was a raging inferno of mistruth, more that it spoke to the weird misinformation that abounded w/them

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

pretty ashamed of my nationality right now fwiw

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

lol, there is no evidence th-
THAT I AM AWARE OF!!!!!!!!!!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

his accent is all over the shop, it sounds like he's a bad actor valiantly trying to stay in character

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

ask the lizard a question ffs

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

ha! that was so qualified - no evidence that i have seen! that there was any impropriety, by them!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

james murdoch has no knowledge of anyone having any knowledge of anything.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert is just going to say fuck all and let James wait in the street for the bus huh. Can he say "Huh" and "Um" more?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

where is that youtube of the guy at a press conference shooting himself

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

btw please no-one post it i am joking

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

burns has had poker face coaching

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

wow rupert actually giving yes/no answers.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

Tom Watson's voice is so soft he sounds like he's scared of El Rupe.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

<3 <3 <3 Tom Watson! (sorry, drinking)

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

james murdoch is truly a master of the art of bullshit

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

wtf was that sales pitch

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

guys i think he's die- oh no wait

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

Tom Watson's strategy is to sound submissive but question incisively. This ALWAYS works.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert seems a bit confused

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

POUND the TABLE

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

THUMP

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

"I didn't hear that" good answer Rupe

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

i'll come to your son in a minute.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

don't think rupert has to worry about the gruelling effect of a 40 year prison sentence

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

Watson good I think

brave, putting them in their place

Murdoch claims not to hear things

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

the pause for thinking is killing me

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

Blackwood getting the most praise (on Twitter) a Tory MP has since idk

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

the post 'it was a civil case' murdoch shrug is a p good move

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

ehhhhhhhhhhh

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

he has the exact mannerisms of my bitch grandmother

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

who is dead

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

I still don't like the wife behind him nudging him comfortingly - this is wrong

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

maybe it's an old australian thing xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

LOL. "I just run the company, I don't know shit about it, especially when we break the law."

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

Rupe looking for a spitoon to launch his chewin' baccy into

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

i seriously had no idea that rupert murdoch had been replaced by a pickled frog thigh

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

murdoch jr begging for mercy

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

yeah tom watson is a brave guy

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

well done Watson, great at keeping them down

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

LOL. "I just run the company, I don't know shit about it, especially when we break the law."

― I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:54 (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

John Howard used p much that defence when he was accused of lying about drowning refugees

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Loving the continual pwning of James Murdoch.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

Tom Watson will go down as a bit of a hero I think, after this

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

Watson has been killing this since the start.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

i mean.. is rupert all there? as the french say, "is he alone in his head?"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

these blokes have a shrewd way of remaining uninformed about things that may incriminate them

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

i mean.. is rupert all there? as the french say, "is he alone in his head?"

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:56 (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shitting his pants imo

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

i mean.. is rupert all there? as the french say, "is he alone in his head?"

....................................................................NOPE

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

This is amazing stuff.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

so many awkward pauses

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert goin' for the Confused Old Man sympathy vote here or what?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

james is such a bully!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

this isn't good enough...he is treating the entire process with contempt.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

haha murdoch minor getting sarky, "oh would you like me to answer questions now?"

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

the 'junior soprano'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

MarinaHyde

Couldn't Rupert have brought along an ear trumpet? It would have made a sympathetic prop
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

props to my work proxy for cutting off all live radio + video feeds after 30 seconds, how do you do it

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

Ach, just let him do the whole of the questioning.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man have his lawyers told him to act like a senial old fool or is that just him? Is he going to die just to get out of this?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

james has got a pretty bad high blood pressure flush.

estela, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

shocked! appalled! ashamed!

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

lol at the guy next to tom watson just fucking LOVING IT

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

did james actually just use the word "quantum" for like no reason at all? how do you learn to blather meaninglessly like that?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

drama

Watson is so darned brave, hard as nails

staring into the eyes of the monster

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

Just the Millie Dowler case, he don't care about the rest.

What are Tom Watson's politics like? Do we like him outside of this?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Aiannucci Armando Iannucci
You know that bit in Celebrity Mastermind when the celeb goes completely blank on their specialist subject? Like that, but not for charity.

Yeah, "quantum" was balls. Job interview failure.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

there needs to be a killer question, maybe they're holding off so as to not influence later proceedings but

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

JM's voice is so fascinating, like he went to a hypnotise-people-into-having-sex-with-you course and learned how to soothe.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

2.57pm: Tom Watson is engaging in a thorough and detailed questioning of Rupert Murdoch of the details of the phone hacking investigations carried out internally at News International - who knew what, and when. Rupert Murdoch, who is 80, appears to be having considerable trouble following the questions and finding appropriate answers. There are long pauses between the end of Watson's questions and Murdoch's answers.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

did james actually just use the word "quantum" for like no reason at all? how do you learn to blather meaninglessly like that?

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:00 (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

spending time with an ilxor, as we have already figured out.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Tom used to be on the centre-right of the party back in the day so he's probably more or less considered a communist now

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

there needs to be a killer question, maybe they're holding off so as to not influence later proceedings but

TW's been playing it down saying there will be no denouement, i don't know what could happen that would be conclusive; how unappealingly they're coming off is probably not a bad result here

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

james still thinks they are running a show.

estela, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

wow, "sit down and shut up, Junior"

wow wow

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

"We were the ones breaking the law, it was the Police's job to sort us out, bitch."

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

how unappealingly they're coming off is probably not a bad result here

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:02 (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I agree, that's a pretty decent pay-off and could easily bollocks his share value within minutes

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

they're being very careful not to commit themselves to any position that can be disproved later. committee can't do much about that rather than keep probing away. this was never gonna be the Murdochs' trial.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

Tom used to be on the centre-right of the party back in the day so he's probably more or less considered a communist now

― don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol. shame. if ever the labour party needed someone who knows how to pwn the right like he is currently doing... wait, whatever happened to ed balls?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

looooool "broken our trust with our readers"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

no-one has said that out loud yet, right. is tom watson caek's bro y/n

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder if they will come off badly, in others' eyes

I guess you get out of this what you want to put in

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

two summaries from bbc feed i'm wanting a 'Like' button for

1502: James Murdoch says it would be "more helpful" to ask him about details of decisions. Mr Watson replies it is "revealing in itself" what Rupert Murdoch does not know.

1501: Tom Watson - the man who once shouted that Michael Gove was a "miserable pipsqueak" across the Commons - is being very softly spoken in his questioning of Rupert Murdoch.

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

Friggin' BBC feed!!!!!!!!!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

4/5 of our main free-to-air channels are carrying this

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

laughter when murdoch utters the actual sentence "i just did what i was told"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

#backdoorgate

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

ok what r murdoch saying "i just did what i was told" can someone gif this and loop it

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha xpost

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

This is getting more comic, more strange.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

lawd sugah twolling now

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

so when's bonnie langford up

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

australia scotland translator required

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaahahahaha, rupert can't do scottish xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

lol cameron / campbell mixup

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh man that was big of Rupe to take a 200K hit on the Sun's circulation just to support his man Tony

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/U6nID.png

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Can't get the Guardian to work either, I'm missing all the good bits

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

so glad that tom watson laid the groundwork for people to just straight ignore james

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

@TwopTwips: PLAYING Poker with Rupert Murdoch? If he starts banging the table, go all-in. He's got fuck all. #hackgate

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

JM is like the slime from central casting

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

this scottish cunt is nae fuckin good

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

(the mp, ya)

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

schlump otm, this little james feller is slimy and repulsive in the extreme

crap, it's midnight and i'm starving

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

I continually picture him with dreads

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

back to Tom, pls

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

shut up james. your dads much more interesting/mad.

mark e, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

"a consortium to destroy us" ?!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

sr. just let his real feelings out a bit - it's all a stitch up by the guardian, apparently

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

wife in bkgrnd impatiently waiting for hubby to keel over and emit cash

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

need to get into specifics w/ these creeps rather than unloading decades of generic resentment

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

- do you accept that fundamentally you are responsible for this whole fiasco?

- no

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

"we have apologised, what more do you want? we only broke the law!"

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

"i would trust him with my life" - so, eight months then

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

- do you accept that fundamentally you are responsible for this whole fiasco?

- no

― c sharp major, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:13 (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

isn't that at odds with all those press ads at the weekend?

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

- do you accept that fundamentally you are responsible for this whole fiasco?

- no

my mind is blown

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

he takes it hugely seriously!

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

are james's ears getting redder or

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

lol yes

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

god everybody must be wishing this boring twat wd tap out and let somebody good have a go

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

who let johann hari in?

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

OK, just caught the end of Wee Jimmy Sheridan, MP for my hometown, asking Rupe's son James about his son Tommy for no apparent reason

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

financial quantum!!

c sharp major, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

Quantum! Again!

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

rupert looks like he's about to cry

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

Quantum Leap would explain Rupe.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe he's just really keen on Quantum of Solace, it makes no sense otherwise.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

can not muffle laughter amid the sentence 'how much money do we have to spend'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

like, pfft, a family!, with its "limited resources"!

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

omg & his false inquisative curious face

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.millionaireplayboy.com/images/iphone_10.jpg

"Only a 23% chance of exoneration?!" *whacks Ziggy*

blueski, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder what tomorrow's Times headline will be

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

The Sun's will be something like "QUANTASTIC!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

James was about to say he'd never asked about how off-book payments are made and then realised that was kind of stupid.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

has James actually known the answer to any question asked of him yet?

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

"What a couple of quants!" xxp

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

therese coffey is too nervous to be effective at all

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

The Sun's will be something like "QUANTASTIC!"

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:23 (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ahaha yes, possibly with the word "JUGS" beneath it

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

these 2 both coming across as unfit to do their jobs from a shareholder's perspective tbh

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

In a way what strikes me most about all this is the foreignness of the two Murdochs -- transnational figures who have to fly in, not the cockney Met types.

+ the contrast between the two

RM seems fundamentally arrogant and certain

JM perhaps nervy, overcompensating with the oil

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

six "and"s in a row!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Coffey is ineffective

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

seriously when the transcripts are out some sub-editor just needs to go through everything james has said with a HUGE RED PEN

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

god she is DIRE !

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

these 2 both coming across as unfit to do their jobs from a shareholder's perspective tbh

― don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:25 (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Quantamly!

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

the arrogance of JM far exceeds RM to me - like even if that isn't true it's so much more evident in the extent to which he feels justified to speak, interrupt, overrule etc

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

the Coffey woman

really bad - a sympathizer with them

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

This is even more brittle and more careful than I had hoped. I don't know what News Corp shareholders will read into this but I'm finding it hard to locate anything positive

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

Coffey has asked some quite interesting questions about News Corp's management of irregular payments to people outside the organisation, this might well bear fruit down the line

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

laziest defence of shitty journalism ever.
sometimes it causes offence

but

it's not intentional

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

the arrogance of JM far exceeds RM to me - like even if that isn't true it's so much more evident in the extent to which he feels justified to speak, interrupt, overrule etc

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:26 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm finding it difficult to draw that kind of conclusion because they're both incredibly nervous, incredibly guarded and incredibly deceitful atm

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

QUANTUM CHUMP

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

Coffey has asked some quite interesting questions about News Corp's management of irregular payments to people outside the organisation, this might well bear fruit down the line

^^
lester freeman
like i guess tom watson was doing the same by being all, supposing some other lines of hacking came to light, &c

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

I'm finding it difficult to draw that kind of conclusion because they're both incredibly nervous, incredibly guarded and incredibly deceitful atm

i cannot permeate rupes' supershield; james is just a caricature of a schmoozy, evasive, doubletalking suit

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

he is doing an impression of someone who gives a shit

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

Is the suggestion from Watson's last question that Alex Marunchak did something that hasn't come out yet?

carson dial, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

james volunteering an independent code of conduct because it's a better outcome for him than ACTUAL LAWS

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

Oh god, Rupert trying to insinuate that this is all a conspiracy to bring down the free press. Instead of an investigation into highly illegal actions performed by his company.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

"there are no immediate plans for the sunday sun a possible hypothetical sunday newspaper"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

lol, James was about to say "no Sunday tab" and Rupert bombed in with "no decision"

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

xpost ha

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Oh god, Rupert trying to insinuate that this is all a conspiracy to bring down the free press. Instead of an investigation into highly illegal actions performed by his company.

― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:30 (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yet another admission of guilt imo

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Is the suggestion from Watson's last question that Alex Marunchak did something that hasn't come out yet?

yeah, it was an obscure, short-circuited close

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

In the latest bizarre twist in the phone hacking story it emerged that Alex Marunchak, an executive editor on the Sunday tabloid, worked for the force between 1980 and 2000 translating for Ukrainian suspects.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Is the suggestion from Watson's last question that Alex Marunchak did something that hasn't come out yet?

― carson dial, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:30 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

there are allegations that he's involved with computer hacking, having gained access to an intelligence officer's laptop in northern ireland. he's also the one who helped the alleged killers of daniel morgan obstruct the police investigation.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

lol, James was about to say "no Sunday tab" and Rupert bombed in with "no decision"

lol otm

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

james blathering about his passion for journalistic ethics was just...whut

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

MURDOCH: THE ONLY WAYS IS ETHICS

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

News Corp shares are up 3-4% today, trending up during the hearing so far - I suspect (in my near-total financial ignorance) this means "the markets" think RM is on the way out.

Groke, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

i could've sworn that NI publications have generally called for heads of scandal-hit organisations to man up and take the rap

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Watching this, I imagine the medical profession think RM is on the way out

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

these murdoch boys are not used to the establishment having the upper hand, strain really showing now

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

@PennyRed Don't you think he looks tired? #hackgate #doctorwho

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

btw i love how calm the interrogators are by comparison

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think RM is strained ... I think he thinks this is beneath him

perhaps I'm wrong

he said 'quantum' again

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

QUANTUM BINGO

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

quantum! again!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

quantum of damages!

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

QUANTUM CHUMP was good

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe if he says it five times he becomes Quantum Man.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

the Tory blonde chick is waiting in the wings

to ask Tory questions maybe

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

who is the dead-lookin dude behind murdoch jr's shoulder?

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think RM is strained ... I think he thinks this is beneath him

imo he's not used to being in this position (i.e. not the strongest person in any given room) and doesn't know how to deal with it

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

four "the"s in a row

five "is a" in a row

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

"that advice was just resting in our account!"

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

QUANTUM OF DAMAGES

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

ANOTHER QUANTUM!

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

Tally of Quantums, please?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

Quantum of Dickthump

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

somebody should tell james that they need more "granular" answers from him

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

Really enjoying watching that vein popping out of James' forehead whenever he lies.

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

"are you familiar with the term 'wilful blindness'"

ohhhhh burrrrrrrrrrrrn

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

"Wilful blindness." hahahaha

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn

HA HA x-post

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

When they were asking Murdoch if his employees had told him about the verdict of 'collective amnesia', I wished he'd said 'they must have forgotten'.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

"I just run the company, I don't know shit about it, especially when we break the law."

OTMx100

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

the wilful blindness moment was so weird, it was like sanders was making a not-very-veiled threat to them?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

like, that will be GOLD for the film

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

amazed by this Con MP asking at the outset what COACHING they had!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

"we were advised [three minutes of nervous, stammering obfuscation] to be as transparent and honest as possible."

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

"quantum creep" surely

MPx4A, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

murdoch snr is demonstrating wilful blindness right now

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

no answer to the who coached them, either

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

"i'm not really in touch"

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Does anyone believe any of this?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

no

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

I guess Al Calavicci isn't showing up just yet.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 11:30 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

james murdoch definitely failing a turing test today

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

"maybe i lost sight of the NOTW because it was so...small" lolll

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Where is Davies going with this?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Ahhh, a joke.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

wish we had captions for the MPs names and parties btw >:(

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

we do get the same "rugby player retiring at the end of his career, in the future" headline popping up at the bottom every 40 seconds tho

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

RM likes talking at the same time as his interlocutor - makes things less clear

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

The Con got laughs for a question to RM - first real laughs

respect to that Con, he's brave

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

"i can't speak to the [blah] of [blah]" is such an ugly formulation

communicate as crisply as we can (c sharp major), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

damn son

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Murdochs deny knowledge of wrongdoing, shee-it
Updated 21 minutes ago

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

unflappable, this Con

you wouldn't think he was facing the Murdochs

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Stop pounding the table! So rude!

It's weird, they have the same body language, their shoulders tilt at the same angle at the same time.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

it's like he's questioning Keith Vaz

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

"I did not see the incident" A. Wenger

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

I thought JM was at his shakiest on Tom Crone - they didn't pursue that

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

i never actually saw that speech JM gave on the BBC a few years ago, kinda wanna dig it up now out of fascination

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

he really doesn't want to answer the "who paid the legal fees" question

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

Joel Klein hasn't moved for five minutes.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

seems bad how JM doesn't know facts basic to the case

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

Stop pounding the table! So rude!

he's very canny on this (he thinks): he's not pounding, so he doesn't look like he's on the ropes; he's slapping the table right under the mic, so he'll sound emphatic

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

oh man this guy

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

answering a question with the words "I'd like to answer that question" = sure sign that you have no such intention

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

imagining tomorrow's Guardian

Jonathan Freedland going on about fathers and sons
body language
will say the MPs were calm and did a good job
and it's unusual and historic that Parliament got them here (as we know)

and will maybe conclude AN AWAY DRAW ON POINTS

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

or that he's startled himself by having an answer, for a change

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

when the Con said 'I seem to be getting further with RM' -- that was the biggest putdown of JM so far

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

no that was such a brave attempt to just utterly drown the truth in platitudes - it's a great question, it's a specific question; i was very surprised to find that-

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

weirdly white finger nails!

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

"That's a very good question" = "I have no intention in hell of answering that" right?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

wow yeah
xp

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

weirdly white finger nails!

that's what they're hanging on by

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

hey i wonder if james sees this as an opportunity to upstage his dad and accelerate his downfall

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

because he's certainly taking the reigns here, for better or worse

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

20 damn microphones those tabloid hacks

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

LOOOOOOOOL at not being expected to stand by a quote because 20 mics were stuck in his face outside his home!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

ugh james is now feigning sentimentality re notw

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

the rebekah brooks anguish scene is going to slay in the film

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

1602:

Philip Davies asks if the Murdochs regret ending the News of the World to "save" Rebekah Brooks. The two decisions were "totally unrelated", Rupert Murdoch says.

TOTALLY UNRELATED!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

the rebekah brooks anguish scene is going to slay in the film

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:03 (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.shadowlocked.com/images/stories/LISTS/003_Dec_2010/doctor_who_assistants_tournament/screamers_melanie_bush.jpg

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

BANG mulcaire question

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

oh god this guy

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

Get these chumps off my screen, Lady Macbeth's been waiting in the wings for half an hour now

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

james repeatedly struggling with the concept of a yes/no question

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

o rly are we doin this it makes me so sad

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

"i don't know the details of the civil actions? but i do know? that i was very disturbed? when i found out?"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

SPOTTED: James Murdoch appears to have a spray-tan gone RONG.

enough of the speak-to

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

there is an awful lot these two don't know, despite (a) running the company for decades and (b) having had several days to prepare for this

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

20 damn microphones those tabloid hacks

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

LOOOOOOOOL at not being expected to stand by a quote because 20 mics were stuck in his face outside his home!

― jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

That was the prep - 100 Ways To Say Nothing.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

well done, Hand?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

did collective schadenfraude just break ilx for anyone else or

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

did collective schadenfraude just break ilx for anyone else or

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

did collective schadenfraude just break ilx for anyone else or

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol yeah wtf

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

me too

it's, it's ... paper

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

"it's paper"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

I like it!

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

"expletive deleted"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

(not the paper - the new look ilx which has suddenly appeared)

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

this Lab MP is very sarcastic toward JM

saying he never swears

'the Sunday Times - great newspaper' - why?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

does this guy really love the times or is he playing the long game

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

"so the times... great newspaper..."

WHAT

xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

ugh sunday times, even more wtf

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

it's just so they can't deny that the reports are accurate, he's taking the piss.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

kinda can't believe Brooks still to come

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Lord_Sugar Lord Sugar
Next MP question: Mr Murdoch senior can you tell me how much red ink and black in is used each day on Sun's print run

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

james wants THE POLICE THE POLICE THE POLICE to conduct the investigation because half of them are in his pocket anyway

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

He just likes The Game podcast

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

@TheWordMagazine
The Word
Amazing: people's hero @tom_watson MP was flatmates with Neil Codling of Suede. This is bigger than Ben Goldacre/Noosha Fox #hackgate
15 minutes ago via Twitter for iPad

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

it's just so they can't deny that the reports are accurate, he's taking the piss.

― joe, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:14 (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is brilliant

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

Am hearing Cameron "being summoned to special 1922 committee headed by Tories tomorrow" -- confirm/deny, anyone?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Twitter is saying exactly that.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

Can this end already, I need to go out.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

John Whittingdale is a 1922'er.

"I'm glad you've asked that!"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

"I'd like to take this opportunity to talk for a very long time without answering the question"

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

did parliament end up being a debate tomorrow or just a statement? i guess he has a busy day.

feel like JM has deferred on so many qs that he actually would have to honour his frequent offers to come back again.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

this could very well be murdoch snr's final appearance as ceo of news corp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

On the other matters that have caught your attention this week, assuming we are thinking of the same thing, I am sure you will understand that we will want to be able to be entirely clear, for your sake and ours, that we have not been in contact with you about this subject.

So I don't think it would really be appropriate for the PM, or anyone else at No 10, to discuss this issue with you, and would be grateful if it were not raised please.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

how did we define wilful blindness again

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Said 1922 committee meeting would be fun to overhear.

"...and in the immortal words of Stanley Baldwin, "Your ass went from the House to hangin with Rupe to Brooks to James and Andy C. murdered you on your own shit.""

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

this could very well be murdoch snr's final appearance as ceo of news corp

have you asked him about this document?

no.

why not?

which document?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

rupe's colostomy bag must need changing at this point

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Can someone just bitch at him already for the death of Rawkus? RIP

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

Twitter helped out there already, a hoy hoy:

huahsu hua
"Mr. Murdoch--James--would you please clarify whether Kool G Rap did indeed receive a 650,000 pound wage packet from Rawkus Records?"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

god this is just agonizingly dull

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

What did you expect? A shootout?

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

sorry i may have raised people's hopes

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

^ OMG! There should be one in the movie! (xpost to self)

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Unbelieveable:

'brevity, please'

Alan Keen asks: 'could you paint a picture of how a Sunday newspaper is run?'

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

could you breeze through the 168 year history of the notw

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

"A Sunday newspaper is run the same as any other paper, except we all go to church in the morning first"

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

Lol @ all the journo's lolling behind RM's back

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

No Bagshawe questions through this whole thing? Sorry, she'll never be a Mensch to me.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

i love those occasional coquettish delicate may i? may i just may i?s that james throws in

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

6.30am unlock office
6.45am put kettle on
6.52am accept bribes from politicians
6.54am order yummy chocolate cake delivery for scotland yard
6.57am drink tea

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

6.55 extricate embedded information from cake

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

"there are thresholds of materiality where things have to move upstream": james getting metaphysical??

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

7.04am begin answering yes/no question
11.27am finish answering yes/no question

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

prefer his metaphysics to the basic physics of 'the folder was full of paper'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

emma watson getting bored of the engineer guy freewheelin with his stories

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

some real dead weight in the room

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

murdoch snr does not believe in personal privacy

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

how does it feel to be using the methods of investigative journalism for non investigative journalism in a way that harms the future of investigative journalism

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

unless it's 20 cameras/mics in his face outside his house obv xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Watching this is relaxing, haven't felt this calm in ages!

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

i think he is actually trying to pay off the mps in the room right now

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

haha rupert was just WAITING to bring up mps' expenses, wasn't he

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

looooool singapore the most open society in the world

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

bahahaha now he's talking up SINGAPORE of all places!! was that facetious or

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

i think he is actually trying to pay off the mps in the room right now

ha ha yes

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

"well i think and i think and i think, i think, i think after i think"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Guy in the green tie behind James, getting a bit bored.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaaaaand he just talked up using newspapers to run campaigns

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

had enough of this "i'm a good person" shtick from this slimy shit, it's 1.45am, going to bed

enjoy sideshow bob

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

Guy in the green tie behind James, getting a bit bored.

dude he has been practically mummified throughout

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sorry – my son has just told me not to gesticulate.

"This damn middle finger of mine!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

wth? (am on radio)

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

holy fuck

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

WTF

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

woah

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit what just happened???

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

someone tried to attack Rupert

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit what just

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

just as i was about to turn the telly off

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Heard it but missed it.... what's going on?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

WHAT IS HAPPENING

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Just tuned back in to find a still picture of a mural, no sound, what's going on?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I hope the old cunt ends up like Milly Dowler.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

feller tried to dewick the melting candle apparently

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I loved the bit where Wendi rose up like a TIGRESS to defend Rupert

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room" ??????

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

"someone tried to attack the murdochs, james and wendy intervened"

suspended for 10 mins

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

some bro launched himself at rupe and son, wendi defended their honour

xp

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

good christ

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

police have got a guy with white stuff all over his face - attempted custard pie attack??

jabba hands, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I think someone stormed the room (or was already in it?) and went for the Murdochs, there was a kerfuffle (punch-up?), security swarmed, I'm sure I saw Wendi land a slap

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room
Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room
Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room
Portcullis House, line 4, the Wilson Room

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

fucking hell, last thing those two need is bloody sympathy

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

objectively speaking, wtg wendi

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Inspector Sands obviously doesn't have clearance for Portcullis House.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

when was the last time there was a physical altercation in parliament? like, 16-something?

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

seems like an involuntary violent spasm of someone dying of boredom than a coherent attack

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

OMG replay, Wendi is fierce

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Shamefully Rupert doesn't appear to have been hacked.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

seeing reruns on bbc feed right now, this bloke just jumped in out of nowhere and lunged at the murdochs

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

no-one has said that out loud yet, right. is tom watson caek's bro y/n

― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no my actual brother is a journalist doing this from the investigative/security side for a newspaper he claims is one of two not up to its neck in this stuff. i think tom watson is NV's bro in the figurative sense.

also can i just say i am at some bullshit conference about the origin of the universe and i am gutted to be missing this. although i think from reading this thread i am hearing the word quantum less than you guys.

xp lol there is also no attempted murder at this conference :-(

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

Wendy's like, "LEAVE MY MONEY ALONE!"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

what the hell is going on

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

talk of a paper plate being thrown, that must be what the white stuff is

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

police have got a guy with white stuff all over his face - attempted custard pie attack??

YES!!!!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

END OF SEASON FINALE DELIVERS

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

when was the last time there was a physical altercation in parliament? like, 16-something?

2004, purple floured condom attack:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/19/newsid_4516000/4516355.stm

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

classic TV version of cream on a paper plate

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

haha it was actually a pie!!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

is what he used I mean

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

so so good

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Guy obv. couldn't face 15 minutes of Louise Bagshawe

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

uk parliament has the worst security

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

oh no wait

better

Josiensor

Apparently it was shaving foam, Wendi stopped him and shoved it back in his face
4 minutes ago via web

GWARN WENDI

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

It's hardly GARY KASPAROV ATTACKED BY FLYING PENIS but I'll take whatever excitement I can get.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

lex otm re deng as tiger mother

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

james is a real p-word

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

lol

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

and the director didn't have a camera on rupert!! D'OH

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

LOL Britain

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

rupert looked pretty chill

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

fucking plank uk uncut

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Let me guess... Wendi Deng gets an apology from the committee, the pie thrower gets to share a cell for five years with Dave Gilmour's son.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

It's the ONE THING this story lacked: SLAPSTICK!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

everyone in the room at my conference just stopped paying attention to the talk by the way

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

the casting for the film beginning to fall into place now

rebekah brooks - tilda swinton
james murdoch - christian bale
wendi deng - LUCY LIU

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

people saying it was http://twitter.com/JonnieMarbles

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

1659: BBC political editor Nick Robinson says Rupert Murdoch was apparently hit in the face with a plate of shaving foam by a man shouting: "Greedy."

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Wendy's like, "LEAVE MY MONEY ALONE!"

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:59 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

quote of the thread

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

is RB going to be on tomorrow then?

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

i've got a thing

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
It is a far better thing that I do now than I have ever done before #splat

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Headache for casting directors now is who will play the Pie Thrower

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

There's a still of the pie tin on MSNBC, tantalizingly close to RM's face.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

brooks is going to have to do more than just hire a pie thrower if she wants to evade these questions

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

a pie thrown in a human face, forever

almost

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

chris tarrant?

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
It is a far better thing that I do now than I have ever done before #splat
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JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
It might be quicker if Baby Murdoch simply listed all of the things that he does know #hackgate
1 hour ago

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
One gets the sense that they haven't really done the required reading ahead of their presentation. Think they may fail this module #hackgate
1 hour ago

JonnieMarbles Jonnie Marbles
I'm actually in this committee and can confirm: Murdoch is Mr. Burns.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

good of the bbc to say that pie throwing man didn't look that young.

Pie throwing man = Jack Black

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

bbc looping the clip endlessly, it's the world's most immediate animated gif

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://goodonpaper.typepad.com/goodonpaper/images/pie1.jpg

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/5AqWH.jpg

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

mrtonymartin Tony Martin
James Murdoch says he has 'no direct knowledge' of the attack on his father. #Murdoch

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

# Bio Activist, comedian, father figure and all-round nonsense. Tweeting in an impersonal capacity.

TWAT

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Trenchant US TV analysis: "Here's a guy who, you know, he's elderly."

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

bbc looping the clip endlessly, it's the world's most immediate animated gif

That was one of the strangest things I've ever seen. Just looped over and over and over and over.

THIS IS THE NEWS.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

!

pageantmalarkey pageantmalarkey

Um. Yes. Yes that was my ex-boyfriend who just custard pied Rupert Murdoch.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

James clearly says "Father!!!"

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

most embarrassing moment for whole of UK is the bobbies run across the room

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

we're back

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, the Mensch face in that photo!

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Oh fantastic, he's being praised for his guts.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

good job taking the actual questioning off the front pages you fucking cretin

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

TOUCHED HIS EAR

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/19/1311091401499/Attack-on-Rupert-Murdoch-007.jpg

xp ahahahaha trust tony martin to be first in with that joke

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

guy in green tie has had time to get some tea and bickies, looks a bit happier - was getting concerned about him.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

oh fuck five billion xposts

xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

1709: The session is restarted after 15 minutes. Tory MP Louise Mensch continues her questioning. She praises Mr Murdoch's "immense guts" for facing the committee.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

if Rupe had had any sense he'd have paid one of his own to arrange this stunt

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

uk uncunt more like

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

god who in their right minds would think that the best way to get rupert murdoch is to distract from the hearing and turn him into the victim

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

inside job?

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

either a) a News Corp employee or b) some narcissistic hippy cunt

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

my money's on b btw

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

uk uncut just tweeted that it was nothing to do with them

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

That has to be the ultimate PR stunt for a comedian, even if his repertoire doesn't appear to reach much further than that of a children's party entertainer.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

l bags doing ok wity straight qns, better than most of these blatherers

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

with

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

What a cunt, and completely counterproductive. Hold Murdoch to account properly and put him under scrutiny, don't pull a shitty prank.

oppet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

James seems to think it's advisable to pretend not to know the girl's name.

boxall, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

a man shouting: "Greedy."

That's telling him, Tarquin

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

max otm

xps this moves fast. oppet also otm

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

"I see you hesitating, James Murdoch" - wish we'd had Bagshawe earlier

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

apparently its this guy

http://www.twitter.com/JonnieMarbles

max, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Have only been following this via looking at newspaper headlines and finding out that someone is now dead completely changes how I feel about it, from "lol @ UK" to "full-on David Icke shit is all real".

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

guardian web site has fallen over

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

wow, LB gets a straight 'no' from James.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

welp, i know what fox @ friends are gonna be running today

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

if i sign up to twitter can i call him a cunt directly?

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

the Tory chick is asking pretty toughly it seems to me - a good interrogator

I'm a bit impressed by the Cons on this panel

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

OMG wikipedia is quick... o_0

On July 19, 2011, Wendi used her ninja background to ward off an attacker during her husband's questioning. The move is now being referred to as the "Crouching Wendi, Hidden Dragon."[9]

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

They kinda have to show their independence as strongly as possible. Same w/the Times. xp

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert increasingly resembling a crumpled creepy sad-faced clown sans make-up even before the custard pie intervention

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

wendi back to looking immaculate. only a slightly rumpled jacket to betray the drama. BOSS BITCH.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

am i correct in thinking this idiot didn't even connect?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, he actually pied himself, didn't he?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

Louise Mensch saluting the Murdochs' courage, strength and indefatigability,

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

he got rupert's jacket, and most of it in his face thanks to Wendi!

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Jane Martinson reports from the hearing: He was sitting four rows back, calmly walked up with a plate of shaving foam - smacked it in Rupert's face - Wendi intervened."

This is so lolworthy. Imagine him sitting there for four hours already with that plate in his lap.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

THIS IS THE NEWS.

Michael Jones OTM

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

amazing - the reverse pie - a rare move

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

oh boo, the police are wiping his face...

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

Wendi shd've kicked his balls into his abdomen while she was on

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

uk uncut denies involvement, but otoh: "UK Uncut is your movement. There are no centrally planned actions. If you have an idea for an action, or want one on your high street, it's up to you to make it happen."

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

distractionary fallout probably somewhat averted by pie-er being completely incompetent

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

1719: Digital Maverick

tweets: Credit to the Murdochs for deciding to continue with the questioning in spite of what happened

Sigh...

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Is Mrs Murdoch the destroyer that Arsenal's midfield has been crying out for? Pace, tenacity, bravery. Sign her up.
https://twitter.com/#!/iainmacintosh/status/93349324423053312

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

can someone shop up a gif from carlos but give them all pies

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

think i need to change my stance on cd you have a relationship with a conservative

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

LOL. Louise Mensch, "You said earlier this was the most humiliating day of your life...", Rupe: "Humbling, I said humbling." Think she got it right first time.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

pie-er will be a guest on Harry Hill or some such show...pie-ing himself in the face.

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

hope he's a guest on Celebrity Stabface

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

looooooooooooooooooooooool at pie in the face

the pie in the face gag hasn't been so humorous in at least 50 years

Z S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

James is really running this Murdoch show isn't he?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

this woman's great

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Pie thrower = Gazza?

okay i'll stop now

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm not saying who" rather than "I don't know who"?

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

"immense courage"!

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Wonder if Rupert will be on the phone to his editors tonight to discuss tomorrow's front pages?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

James is really running this Murdoch show isn't he?

No wonder, that old geezer couldn't run a bath on his own

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

You can't slag the guy off for doing a 'shitty' stunt, then slag him for missing..

Or, can you?

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

GET IN Louise Mensch. "Mr Murdoch, have you considered resigning?" "No." "Why not?"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

really going to bed this time, looking forward to the myriad variations upon rupert-cream-pie.gif in the morning

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

I know it's not cool to make fun of people with stutters but seriously, dubdubdubwhuhwhuwhuwhWHAT'S UP DOC

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

"Your wife has a very good left-hook" Phil Jupitus

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

You can't slag the guy off for doing a 'shitty' stunt, then slag him for missing..

yes. you can slag him off for being a moron, for drawing attention away from what's important today to focus it on himself and his pathetic attention-grab, and for being completely fucking inept at the stupid shit he intended

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert's got the floor now

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

GET IN Louise Mensch. "Mr Murdoch, have you considered resigning?" "No." "Why not?"

BOOM

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Pro-celebrity boxing: Wendi Deng vs John Prescott

ledge, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Who's going to play Mensch in the movie?

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Louise Mensch was good, Tom was good, Therese Coffey was good, can't say I picked up on any of the others' work

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

"Mr Murdoch, have you considered resigning?" "No." "Why not?"

His wife

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Jodie Foster

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Completely and deeply sorry... deeply regret the horrible invasion of their lives"

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp paul farrelly was also good on who knew about the 2007 internal report that said hacking was rife.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

"Completely and deeply sorry... deeply regret the horrible invasion of their lives"

― Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 02:28 (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

c.f. his complete and utter disregard for people's privacy not 40 minutes ago

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Who's going to play Mensch in the movie?

Carey Mulligan

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Emily Blunt

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

dean gaffney

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

roffle

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

so if anything new comes out about NI's illegal activities, the Murdochs will be left looking like total hypocrites or total incompetents? good call

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

Meh statement, we're sorry etc, we didn't know, didn't realize etc.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

Marbles being taken to the tower...

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

It's been a nice warmup for the main course though :)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting. She went to grab the papers out of his hands, and he handed them off to his son.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

have never wanted a dude to get a shoeing in the back of the van more than this guy

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

LM's reaction to the custard pie was incredible

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Marbles being taken to the tower...

hahaha

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Rolled down the stairs headfirst

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Louise Münch

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

entire story on BBC now become BS about fun Wendi Murdoch

appalling

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

marcusbrig - This fucking idiot has probably just changed the news agenda. Fuck you Johnny Marbles you asshole 25 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting. She went to grab the papers out of his hands, and he handed them off to his son.

i noticed that too!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ suzy

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Was Johnny Marbles rich enough to book an appointment for his arrest?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

so did the taylor settlement include a confidentiality clause or what?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

tmr's headline: FOAM HACKING

Roz, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

LOST HIS MARBLES, w/ photo of Rupert underneath

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

there is too much news

caek, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2001/06/05/dd_junior2.jpg

James Murdoch (top) and Rupert Murdoch (bottom) celebrating a hearing that for them has gone really well, proposing a toast to Mrs. Murdoch.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Pls shop this in place of Mensch.

http://blog.gesweb.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/doctor-who-silent-attack.jpg

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

they better not postpone eggheads

kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

BBC panel of 4 blokes is basically pro-Murdoch

depressing

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

https://twitter.com/MurdochCreamPie

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

sigh

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously, it was a walk in the park for the Murdoch's today wasn't it?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

far from it

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

What is the deal w/Brooks?? Is she going to testify?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

in about two minutes, yeah

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

xxp

they have put themselves on very public record about a bunch of events that can now come back to bite them pretty hard if we get further evidence uncovered

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

i'm now waiting for her to appear, sleep be damned xp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

there's no master plan here, this feels more like a throw of the dice

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

"I would like to welcome Mr Rebekah Brooks"

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

NV, seriously don't think they will feel bad about how it went down. Mensch and Watson were good and sharp.

xp Ok I suppose so. Maybe my bloodlust is too big

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I suspect both Murdochs know they're fucked and are just trying to scrounge what they can

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

poor rebekah. everyone's gone home :(

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

i'm now waiting for her to appear, sleep be damned

she's so dull I'm actually being put to sleep

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

well, that and the three-am-ness

xpost yeah, also fucking Marbles having destroyed the tone.

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

poor rebekah. everyone's gone home :(

only lobby journalists allowed back in post-pie, not the public/other journalists

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

i think rebekah is wearing the exact same jacket as in the photo at the top of this thread!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

frustrating to have "zero visibility" on mulcaire's files

yes, very frustrating to not know what prosecutors know

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

haha yes, it is the same jacket

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

xp to sic: yeah, if anything's guaranteed to put me down it's this bag crapping on in the small hours

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Lex :-)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

i think rebekah is wearing the exact same jacket as in the photo at the top of this thread!

Yup

in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

ugh people on twitter need to learn

REBEKAH not rebecca
BROOKS not wade
WENDI not wendy
DENG not murdoch

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Dodging dodging dodging

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

nitty gritty here

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

this "who approved the payments?" tack must be promising, because none of them have wanted to answer it properly

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

"Don't particularly remember any instances" of having talked about payments to private detectives...

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Fucking hell, she doesn't remember 11 years ago. Rupert's senility must be catching.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

"Michelle?"

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Watson's sinking his teeth in this good 'n proper

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

again, either she's certain they can consistently maintain this story or this is an enormous gamble

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

BBC News saying Wallis was informally advising Coulson while Cameron was in opposition...

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

"I first heard Glen Mulcaire's name in 2006."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Even I'd heard of him in 2006 ffs.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Brooks is stonewalling but I prefer her at least being definite to having to endure Murdoch Minor's meaningless wordsoup

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Ask her what code name they gave Mulcaire.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

how significant is that (re Wallis)? Tory heave against Cam, or pre-emption of revelations?

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

"You've been conducting an investigation for six months, did you not have time to find out?"

Watson reallllly thinks she's bullshitting

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Probably because she is bullshitting.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

forensic use of the word "incredible" there

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

rebekah brooks just said it would be unfair to out a paedophile!

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

this is finally good stuff here

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

"i've had a few"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

rebekah brooks just said it would be unfair to out a paedophile!

― joe, Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:02 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

Haha yeah good call :)

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

And now, the end is near,
And so I face the final curtain.
My friends, I'll say it clear;
I'll state my case of which I'm certain.

I've lived a life that's full -
I've travelled each and every highway.
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.

Regrets? I've had a few,
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption.

I planned each charted course -
Each careful step along the byway,
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

How can she remember that she can't remember?

Obviously told to say the ridiculous phrase "Operation Motorman" as often as possible too.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

they can get a footballer's mobile phone number and PIN within a week or two but they can't find out who's been employing law-breakers in their own company in the space of 12 years or more?

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

waaaau at Brooks' expression after those Morgan quotes

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

and she's on the ropes now, wordfluffing like James M

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron now 4-1 to go.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

this Louise Mensch is good

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

did Mensch just use the word "licit"??

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

yes, an excellent blend of solicitous and savage

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

"licitly"

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

hang on my feed just skipped back to the start of Brooks' evidence? whuh?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

wau, it's like spotting some kind of rare salamander in the wild

xpost

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

good answer to the one year question.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron to leave now the same odds as Boris J to be next Tory leader

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

god bless this scottish dude who is using 100% of his questions to ask about tommy sheridan related matters

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

A cunt, as always - https://twitter.com/#!/GuidoFawkes/status/93354241271398401

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Stay classy Guido!

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

she is very determined to get to the bottom of all this

T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Finally, Ms Brooks - how did you run the UK newspaper publishing division of the world's second-largest media conglomerate with such a terrible memory?"

"When did this happen? I can't remember."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

Been enjoying the cryptic tweets from EXNOTWJourno2 that pop up -- anyone want to hazard the latest?

ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
TO dig A vineyard is a worthY exercisE for men. Knowledge talks & Wisdom LisTEnS

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

TOAYEKWLTES

?

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

I suspect it's one for the cryptic crossword fans. Could be wrong.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

NI lawyers who got dumped on by the murdochs have asked to be released from confidentiality to defend themselves. NI refused.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Can Parliament overrride that?

in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

xp TOTAL SKEWEY?

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

xp don't think so: legal privilege is a powerful thing.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

YEATES TO WALK

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

I can understand a strong privilege to protect from being forced to incriminate oneself but it seems that Parliament's prerogative would trump a corporation's legal interests, esp if the indivds wish to do so. Isn't that precisely what parliaments are for?

in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I also got TALK TO YATES

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm. How about this (rather saucy) one? The M is how she usually signs her posts:

ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
DiRty Pony I Can't Wait To HoSE You DOwn. M

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

SWEATY TOKLE

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

PRODUCES WITH?

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

PRO WITCHY MEDS

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

It says something about how this has trailed off compared to the action earlier that we're all just doing anagrams now.

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

She basically confirmed conspiring with Dacre and others about silencing coverage, though.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

WITCHES DROOP

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

I can understand a strong privilege to protect from being forced to incriminate oneself but it seems that Parliament's prerogative would trump a corporation's legal interests, esp if the indivds wish to do so. Isn't that precisely what parliaments are for?

― in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:41 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

an actual lawyer says they could break legal privilege if summoned to testify, apparently.

joe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

"In this current climate, there is a lot out there that isn't true..."

oh ffs putting untrue stories out there has been your fucking core business

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

caroldecker carol decker

God will you all knob off! I do not look like RB!!!!! You mother fuckers!!!

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

i can see why it'd be her default assumption

xp

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

I love the way John Yates says he's taken responsibility, others should too

Who?

very quietly and quickly: 'News International'

by which I suppose he must mean the people who run it, as several others have already quit.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

She enjoyed it so much she wants to come back!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

James doesn't wanna be eating anything his step-mom might make for him any time soon

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

That seems like an episode of Law & Order waiting to happen.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

fkn hell, newsnight tonight with alan rusbridger, louise mensch, tina brown, paul mcmullan, earl spencer, will self, carl bernstein and michael grade

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

I hope McMullan has got around to washing his shirt.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/tguLO.jpg

polyphonic, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

A+

Roz, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

james is hot, wendi is fierce. a small part of me is feeling slightly team murdoch as a result which i am disgusted by.

prolego, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Wendi Deng :D

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmW3B_Ims0Q

Turns out Jonnie Marbles is one of those guys who thinks comedy is telling bad anecdotes in an arch voice

The Youtube hordes seem to not actually be acting like he's a lol legernd, which is good because you'd hate for there to be some kind of misguided outcry against his being kneecapped and jailed for life without trial

MPx4A, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

enough is enough i guess

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/19/new.york.anonymous.warrants/

New York (CNN) -- At least 14 people have been arrested as part of an ongoing operation targeting the notorious hacking collective known as Anonymous, a federal government official said Tuesday.

The arrests have taken place in locations including Florida, the San Francisco area in California and New Jersey, the official said.

Earlier, a senior federal law enforcement official said up to 15 total arrests are expected following the execution of more than 15 search warrants.

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

This apparently has no irony in it:

piersmorgan Piers Morgan
Rebekah Brooks (a great, and loyal friend) just been cut off from live #CNN USA coverage for President Obama speech. She won't be happy.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

hahahaha

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

piers morgans tv career is proof of the absence of irony in this world. just crushing sophoclean doom.

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

i hope Jonnie Marbles' commitment to free speech means he won't moderate any of his Youtube comments

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- I'll give him this much:

piersmorgan Piers Morgan

One day I will, relax RT @YouCantEditSam I want @piersmorgan to die with a passion.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

j. murdoch's "to my knowledge certain things were not known" is a classic for the ages

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

like, maybe they actually were known, but that would only be the case if he had less complete knowledge

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

Was he talking about the known unknowns or the unknown unknowns?

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

oh noes!

http://i.imgur.com/QTmdt.png

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

robble

g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

jesu christo that's a bottom-third car crash

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

i mean lower-third. i always do that. the CC is like the cherry on top.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

So... now what happens?

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

Pie happens.

Tom Watson said in a Guardian interview the other day that these hearings weren't going to be a sudden series of smoking-gun revelations, but cutting ever closer to the truth, whatever it might be. On that level he was exactly right.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

well exactly. the thing today was to gradually push the Murdochs and Brooks to adopt a position, altho I'm sure they all know that position is vulnerable to further revelations. it also gave us a chance to look at exactly where the evasions were strongest, cos that seems to be the likeliest area to start digging for evidence.

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

2000 words on why Jonnie Marbles is the greatest hero who ever lived from L. Barton tomorrow

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

He wasn't even tasered or beaten up by 20 cops? idgi

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

great to catch up with this thread today. listened on radio from just before the circus act courtesy of our idiot urban clown.

only two things to add that haven't been mentioned before:

When they were asking Murdoch if his employees had told him about the verdict of 'collective amnesia', I wished he'd said 'they must have forgotten'.

― kip winger; radio ventriloquist (jel --), Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:42 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1. the clip on the bbc site shows watson asking the question about 'collective amnesia', murdoch evading and mumbling, then watson's coup de grace: 'did they forget to tell you'?

(so often i wondered whether rm was having to hold down his magic wand/super bark/jedi mind trick that he's so used to playing. hating being shown up as a dick.)

2. in midst of rebekah questions around milly dowler and how sunday newspapers are run, she started a paragraph about the dowler events with "i mean, the milly dowler story was so h..." she caught herself very quickly and went on to say "it was so awful, so tragic", but it was obvious she had meant to say the story was HUUUUGE. you can take the girl out of the tabloid....

what fun.

whatever, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

xp He really "lost" his "marbles" didn't he?

Neil S, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

she caught herself very quickly and went on to say "it was so awful, so tragic", but it was obvious she had meant to say the story was HUUUUGE.

TOTALLY noticed this!

funny thing is i don't think calling the story HUGE would've been a particular faux pas - it just revealed how much care she was taking over how she came across.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Will these hearings be on a free DVD with The Guardian soon then?

StanM, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

For some inspired reason, the PIE ATTACK video on The Graniuad's website has a slow-motion replay with slow-motion action film musical bedding in the background.

Scritti Eros Poli (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

murdoch eats humble pie seems to be the line all the newspapers are taking tomorrow

prolego, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

So did the pie help or hurt things today? Aside from livening it up a bit

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sure its going to make a huge difference in the long run, but in the near future it gives Murdoch's outlets the perfect chance to frame him as a victim.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think it hurt things as much as people made out somewhat melodramatically - sure it'll be the focus of the headlines but i don't think it makes murdoch sympathetic as such, there was no big splash that would've got the headlines in any other case - actually it just feeds into the overall impression that the whole thing was a bit farcical. the story is the overall inadequacy of their answers.

also it's not like the story is going to cease any time soon.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

it won't affect things much i think we were just all pissed off with the unfunny attention ho trying to screw things up. worth it for Wendi D's sweet right-hander tho

don't be so dayo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it doesn't change the fact that the dude needs to be hung, drawn and quartered basically

i KNEW wendi would do something special. i tweeted before it started that i had a feeling she might be amazing and SHE WAS <3

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8648350/Phone-hacking-Neil-Wallis-advised-Andy-Coulson-before-election.html

not sure if this came up before, 'old news' now, but david cameron not mentioning it till now is definitely a thing that makes you go hmmm

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

theatre dude on newsnight OTM comparing Murdoch to Lear - dividing his kingdom among chosen heirs, fissures developing, mental and political powers dwindling

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

however that did mark the moment when I realised no more news would be occurring on this special bumper edition of NN

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

Profile on Wendi:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/19/wendi-deng-charlies-angel-moment

prolego, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

most iiiiinteresting daily mail front page about the 'real scandal'

they're not, you know, entirely wrong, buuuuut

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

“He was very, very unfunny,” the source added, insisting that we refer to him as a classmate or acquaintance. “Please don’t use the word friend.”

:D

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha I knew you would love that.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

loooool

Bilge Pump Up the Volume (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

hey my comment's made it to the top of his youtube :D

Bilge Pump Up the Volume (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

omg omg omg and through that I just discovered that majestic DOMFALL <3 <3 <3

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwFusX363cg

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

omg

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

thought everybody had seen this by now tbh

Bilge Pump Up the Volume (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtz-se1wgo

Once Were Moderators (DG), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

does that feature him getting cock-punched? otherwise i don't think i'll click

Bilge Pump Up the Volume (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

oh dear

owenf, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

I am impressed with the audience for not laughing AT ALL at his first joke.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

That incident is now clearly the most important thing that will be remembered/written about from these hearings. Hope marbles was hired by NI to create a diversion, because it worked perfectly.

StanM, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

holy lol at domfall.

this marbles cunt's voice sounds a lot like that of a very nice person i know, it's putting me off of my attempts to hate him unreservedly.

Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

that Domfall was amazing, well done whoever

jack-off all trade, masturbate nuns (sic), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

HAH from that FOX piece:

(Those of you with better things to do might not know that the media mogul Murdoch is being questioned about the tactics some of his reporting staff undertook, including wire taps, paying for news tips and generally beating the competition to shreds with scoops. In response, politicians are clamoring for a chance to say – on camera – how horrified they are about the entire ordeal. Simply horrified.)

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

Paying for news tips? Why that doesn't sound bad at all!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

Whoever done Domfall, I love you and will buy you more than one pint in honour. RIP Big Man indeed.

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck that comedian guy, I had never seen Domfall and now that's eclipsed Murdoch in my memory

mh, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

Not yet sure if this is directly related: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/07/murdoch-biographer-rupert-wants-lachlan-to-buy-news-limited.html

News Ltd is the local arm of News Corp. It controls something like 70% of the newspaper press here.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

Is it that high? That seems very high.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

He also owns all those Leader community papers, and Brisbane & Adelaide have nothing but the Courier Mail/Tiser and the Oz.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

think lachlan is too smart to buy a bunch of papers that will start leaking money within five years tbh

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Australian media was controlled by the Murdochs, kangaroos, and the progeny of felons

mh, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link

it is!

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

think lachlan is too smart to buy a bunch of papers that will start leaking money within five years tbh

― root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 13:24 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You're that sure?

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

(I hope you're right, I just don't see it myself)

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

It controls something like 70% of the newspaper press here.

Is it that high? That seems very high.

Is that legal? Some antitrust stuff needs to happen cos these companies just keep growing and growing in revenue and market domination while leaving ethics in the dust. Sad thing is, I think the loophole that voids the oligarchy of legal responsibility is going to save Murdoch's ass.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

We have cross-ownership laws that prevent one company controlling a range of media. As a result Murdoch can own the aforementioned press and 25% of the country's biggest pay television provider (which he does) but he's not allowed to own free-to-air television or radio stations (which he almost does – his son Lachlan is interim CEO of the Ten network).

Is he allowed to own that much of the country's press? I don't know how far beyond the law he is in that regard but that's been the situation for more than 20 years i.e. since he bought the Herald & Weekly Times. I know there was a load of consternation when that happened but no politicians or lawmakers stopped it.

The obvious result of Murdoch having such a grip on newspapers is that he decides the outcome of all our federal elections. There is a democratic process and it is followed, but Murdoch's campaigning always determines the winner.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

Weird and I thought he was too powerful in America.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

Murdoch's campaigning always determines the winner

except for the last one, presumably?

dece analysis of the news ltd sitch in oz

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

Last week a politician raised the issue of his massive control over the press. Within two days the PM and the opposition leader had defused it.

xp do you mean the one Rudd won or last year's?

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link

the last one

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

you know, the one where they backed the libs in as hard as possible yet we ended up with a minority labor govt

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

Abbott's so revolting that even Murdoch couldn't get him over the line imo (although certainly not without trying)

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

2-3 mths before Howard called the previous election Rudd went to the US and had the press stand round him while he shook Murdoch's hand outside the NYC headquarters of News Corp, ~pivotal~

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, well, nobody's going to be doing that anymore! as that crikey article i posted states, this will realign things here as much as anywhere else, as much as harto and chris mitchell and the other aussie execs would like to think otherwise.

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

That Crikey piece is great, cheers for the link. Also ha I didn't know the Oz was already losing money. You're right, if Rupert goes the Oz will go.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 04:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'll larf if that happens. Bitch who hated me in HS works for that rag.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

the oz hasn't made money for years! strictly lives on through 'influence'. it'll be like when packer carked it and channel 9 cancelled sunday (and the bulletin closing) - shareholders don't care for loss-making arms of businesses and once you get rid of the proprietor who can't let go, things tend to get, well, let go.

root 86 tram (haitch), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

Completely forgot Sunday had disappeared.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

it'll be like when packer carked it and channel 9 cancelled sunday (and the bulletin closing)

Oh god yes of course.

So I wonder which of his UK shitrags are money holes. They can't all be in profit, surely.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:37 (twelve years ago) link

Remember ppl thought Rudd was going to lose bcz he couldn’t remember deets of a shit-blind night at a strip club in New York? And then this became “Rudd’s a Top Bloke, he went out on the piss*, good on him........*[WITH THE EDITOR OF THE NEW YORK POST]” – not hard to see the hand writing that narrative.

you know, the one where they backed the libs in as hard as possible yet we ended up with a minority labor govt

The one where they turned around from the biggest swing in voter memory to not even being able to form a government? And now after another year of steady beasting from News Ltd, despite being in massively better shape financially than under Howard, have dropped to even lower in opinion polling?

Booger T. Jones (sic), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link

The one where they turned around from the biggest swing in voter memory to not even being able to form a government?

On that, I do love how the Murdoch readers claimed a resounding victory based solely on the swing.

In yesterday's inquiry, Murdoch openly said his newspapers run campaigns. That puts paid to all the bell-ends here who insist that Murdoch's newspapers don't run campaigns.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

e.g. when he said his press supported Thatcher until she lost the plot or whatever

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:47 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jul/19/james-rupert-murdoch-live-transcript

JS: Have you ever imposed any pre-conditions on or upon a party leader in the UK before giving them the support of your newspapers?

RM: I've never guaranteed anyone the support of our newspapers. We changed, we had been supporting the Thatcher government and the Conservative government that followed and we thought it had gotten tired and we changed and supported the Labour party. Whenever it was, 13 years ago, with the direct result of loss of 200,000 circulation.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:49 (twelve years ago) link

omg his wife HIT someone! what a HERO!

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:50 (twelve years ago) link

I hop Johnny Marbles lives up to his name and gets beaned over the head with a condom full of ball bearings.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:58 (twelve years ago) link

She hit him? Sue her for the loss of one of his marbles.

StanM, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:02 (twelve years ago) link

The Sunday Times drops its paywall to share its readers delightful views on Gordon Brown:

The most frightening thing about all of this is that this man lead our country. Next we will see him fighting off imaginary attacks by aliens [...]
I always feared that dark forces who want to gag the press, would seize this opportunity. Those who benifited, ordered, turned a blind eye, or were ultimately responsible for the excesses at the NOTW must be brought to justice to prove our system truly is by the people and for the people.
But those who would use this to create a vacumn in which they can hide their dirt must be challenged.
John Ford, Fleet
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/news/article673299.ece

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:10 (twelve years ago) link

Kind of bummed that this Jonnie Marbles guy got in there with the cream pie first when poor old deathdr0ne had spent just fucking ages at home making his own.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link

J Marbles is back tweeting.

I really hope there's no long term impact on letting the public in on committees - it's one of the joys of parliament - I can't remember the last time something like this happened actually inside the commons. 2004?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

Whoda thunk The Sun would lead with this today?
http://www.frontpagestoday.co.uk/frontpages/archive/The_Sun_20_7_2011.jpg

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

Not the most "humiliating" tho.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

J Marbles is back tweeting.

ugh why isn't he being held and tortured in isolation? where is our oppressive police regime when we need it?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

NEWS CORP BOSS RUPERT MURDOCH, 80, :(, TELLS HACKING COMMITTEE MPs-

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

Would take a pie in the face from Jonnie Marbles every day rather than hear from cunts like Milo Yiannopoulos ever again.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:25 (twelve years ago) link

steve bell's shite

conrad, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

Alternate pie content?

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:33 (twelve years ago) link

More proof that the real news is far stranger than anything fiction can come up with (from last month)...

Tory MP Louise Bagshawe secretly marries Metallica manager Peter Mensch

Louise Bagshawe, the author and Conservative MP, has married Peter Mensch, the rock promoter, in a ceremony that she kept secret even from her children.

By Tim Walker 6:30AM BST 03 Jun 2011

In what could be the plot of one her bestselling "chick lit'' novels, Bagshawe married the American 19 years her senior during the parliamentary recess.
The wedding in New York was kept secret even from her children. "I am very happy," she tells Mandrake. "It was a small, private ceremony in Manhattan and I'm back at work next Tuesday."

Bagshawe captured Corby for the Tories last year, while Mensch, 58, manages rock bands including Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Snow Patrol.
"It will have to be a long-distance relationship to start with," says the MP, who has homes in London and Northamptonshire, while her husband lives in New York. "Our work is important to both of us, but we will get together as often as we can. Peter does a lot of business in London."

Bagshawe, whose books include Passion, Glitz and Career Girls, first met Mensch, a divorced father of teenaged children, in Oxford when she worked in the record business.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

Passion, Glitz and Career Girls

is this from a chick-lit title generator? jesus.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

That's three books, rather than one, right?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:48 (twelve years ago) link

Well, they're all the same book really.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

You've read them!?

StanM, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

Speaking of Mensch, has her face off with Piers Morgan been posted yet?

http://gordonsrepublic.brandrepublic.com/2011/07/20/latest-on-the-news-international-hacking-scandal-liveblog-2/

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

Genuinely surprised she's not published by HarperCollins.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

i haven't watched, but, she's wrong, isn't she? at least in going as far as filling in the blanks in her account of morgan's book - like it does not say that afaic, however true it is.

also, good start dave!
People want this because they want the government to be able to focus on the issues "that matter more".

should probably understand at some point that this is a v significant thing that matters to people

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron's Cuties - Part 1

Louise Mensch couldn't even win the Cameron's Cuties poll tsk tsk

Wavey Grave-Shit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

but, she's wrong, isn't she? at least in going as far as filling in the blanks in her account of morgan's book - like it does not say that afaic, however true it is.

Guido's twttier feed yesterday heavily implied that they fed her the information…

carson dial, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

now there's a news source you can trust

Wavey Grave-Shit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

ed should read out a list of those who've mentioned warning, or been alleged to have warned, cameron about coulson, as a human being/as someone who presided over phone hacking/as someone whose hiring policies were kinda controversial, in the face of DC's innocent demeanour; ashdown, someone at buckingham palace, clegg, rusbridger & others from fleet street. it's wilful blindness all over again.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

11.56am: Cameron has finished.

Got excited there.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

wd be okay with some unfunny twat pie-ing Dave today if they want to have a go

Wavey Grave-Shit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

lol. also i should be in government, Miliband runs through warnings about Coulson that Cameron has received or could have received, and media coverage such as the New York Times investigation into phone hacking.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

he already has p fluffy hair today

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

cameron landing better blows re: blair/brown's closeness to newscorp than e-mili did re: anything

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

gosborne looks distinctly green around the gills, clegg staring off into the distance

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

dc is sorta invoking the authority of brooks & yates in his speech more than i'd think he'd want to?
i'm only reading about this so don't know how it's coming across.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

Whatevs, Blair/Brown did not hire an editor the entire country associated with phone hacking.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

can't believe how many times he's been able to bat off 'concerns, what concerns?' with references to conspiracy theories, bigger problems etc. at the very least he has a malfunctioning government.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think there's anything "whatevs" about blair and brown's role in any of this.

BAM tom watson!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

MichaelLCrick

At PM saying no new info in NYT article, Ben Bradshaw puts fists in air, gestures throat cut, and mouths "finished"
2 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

i think Blair's silence over the last couple of weeks has been instructive. "the other boys did it too" is never gonna wash as an excuse while you're the guy at the wheel tho

Wavey Grave-Shit (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

oh absolutely, everyone is as complicit

#allinittogether

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

"the other boys did it too" is never gonna wash as an excuse while you're the guy at the wheel tho

otfm. also suzy otfm about the difference between sucking up to the murdochs and actually letting them plant a criminal on your staff.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

... is the point, yes.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

i think nick raynsford just said the civil service was bugged??

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

... is the point, yes.

Yes, every tory troll everywhere is repeating the party line - "But Blair did it first!" - but Cameron hasn't (as far as I know) even apologised for employing Coulson yet? In fact I'm pretty sure he went with, "I make no apology..."

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

My idealist heart wants this to show the everyman Sun etc reading person the shit these guys pull, and have people THINK about what theyre spewed at by media with an agenda. I really, really have hope this is the only chance for change there. I'm hoping against hope tho arent I?

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

xp Also I don't remember any of them complaining about Blair and Brown's closeness to NI back in the day, even after the royal phone hacking. In fact iirc it was pretty much only lefties who have consistently attacked all government's closeness to Murdoch. And possibly P Hitchens.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

mulcaire is off the payroll now. does that mean they've found another way to keep him on the payroll? or was offing the whistleblower warning enough?

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

No they didn't complain, because they wanted their friend back.

Now their friend has been seen eating bogeys, they are all "you liked them, you were their bestest friend" and "Mary told you he eats bogeys and you still invited him for tea" and so on.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

Ahh, I hadn't read the latest - "Of course I regret, and I am extremely sorry, about the furore it has caused." said Cameron over hiring Coulson. So it was the furore, not the hiring. I can't understand why, from a political pov, he doesn't just apologise. Then EdM couldn't keep asking him to do it. What harm would it do?

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

god i hate that new way of 'apologizing': i'm sorry *if i upset anyone'; i'm sorry *for the furore [ie your reaction]* etc.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:41 (twelve years ago) link

That is not a new way of apologizing. Now, how many questioners have asked Cameron the name of the outside company which vetted Coulson?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm sorry, but I'm not going to apologise."

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

surely answering a question with an "ugh" then sitting back down isn't permissible!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

1357: Echoing the words of his predecessor Margaret Thatcher, at one point in the debate David Cameron says: "I'm enjoying this".

I remember when she said it (as in the exact moment), I thought to myself "she's over! She's completely done!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Miliband got in a top zing: said Tom Baldwin was vetted properly and oh BTW what about his former line manager, Michael Gove.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

I went to school with May-Bowles. He was in my year at St Bernard's Convent Grammar School (now just Grammar School) from 1996 to 2003. To say he is a pompous, self-centred, egomaniacal twat doesn't even scratch the surface. To be in his mere presence wanted anyone to curl into a ball or be swallowed by the earth. In the years I knew him I can never remember a sincere word pass his lips, just trite nonsense. He once got caught smoking weed on the premises and called it 'social intercourse'. Ugh.

Mecha-Geir Solid (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

by the way it's worth revisiting this article for a recap on the whole situation and how it unfolded -

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/magazine/05hacking-t.html

kind of amazing that it took another 4 months after this article for coulson to resign from 10 downing street, tbh

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

i think a big part of that is that so few people in westminster (including journalists) don't read the nyt, and would assume an article by them on uk politics was not worth reading, so it's pretty easy to just pretend it doesn't exist if you need to

caek, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think so.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

i've worked in westminster fwiw. if a shorter version of that article was in the telegraph or the guardian then he would have gone immediately because it would be the lead thing on the today show every day until he quit

caek, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

as much shit as i give the nytimes, and especially its magazine, that kind of patient, long-form, rigorously researched storytelling is something it can do very well when it puts its mind to it

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

mark caek is a close personal relation to andy coulson, i think i am going to trust him on this

xxp

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

"today show" = "today programme" btw [via Americanisms: 50 of your most noted examples]

caek, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

At Rupert Murdoch's tabloids, refusing to play ball meant being pushed to the sidelines. One reporter who said he went through that was Charles Begley, News of the World's Harry Potter correspondent in 2001 when Brooks was its editor.

The then 29-year-old reporter said he wore a Harry Potter costume to work and officially changed his name to that of the fictional boy wizard, all part of the paper's attempt to tap into the Pottermania sweeping both sides of the Atlantic.

On Sept. 11, hours after the fall of the Twin Towers, Begley was stunned to be chewed out by News of the World management for not wearing his costume. He said he was then ordered to attend the next news meeting in full Potter regalia.

max, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

can someone shop that shop of the 911 towers photo, with a plane in the background, so the guy is wearing a potter costume

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

you can just draw on glasses & a scar

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Something to keep an eye on:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/20/phone-hacking-ni-murodchs

Jon Chapman, News International's former director of legal affairs, is understood to be preparing to write to the parliamentary committee looking into phone hacking in order to answer allegations made by his former employers, the Murdochs.

Chapman was one of a handful of senior and external legal advisers whose opinion on the extent of phone hacking at the newspaper group was called into question on Tuesday by James and Rupert Murdoch who appeared before MPs on the Commons culture, media and sport select committee. The Murdochs offered what could be described as a "blame the lawyers" defence.

On gardening leave having left News International two weeks ago, Chapman could not be reached for comment on Tuesday. However, he is understood to be preparing to write a letter to John Whittingdale, the chairman of the culture select committee, to "set the record straight", according to sources close to situation.

Any evidence from Chapman is likely to be extremely important in offering an opposing view of the critical 2007 internal inquiry put forward by the Murdochs and former chief executive Rebekah Brooks to MPs on Tuesday.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

wow that sounds like a hot lead, let's just wait for him to put down the trowel & come back inside to get to the bottom of this

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

"...gardening leave" ?

g++ (gbx), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

paid leave while under investigation or whatever

caek, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

british synonyms for 'house arrest'

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

For lawyers it's usually a paid period where they can't work for a competitor.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

"...bizarre gardening accident..."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Finally, something important:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrR3bnLApDs

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

on that note, ny mag ran with Wendi Daaaang as their headline

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

for wendi deng:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6deOgwlyLs

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Even though it's animated, still too much info on the 'RUPERT IS VERY MUCH STILL ALIVE' bit.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

nymag is awful sometimes

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

"gardening leave" can also refer to when people resign and take all their leftover vacation days in one lump at the end, so that they keep getting paid for (x) number of days even though they've already left

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

god that cunt with the pie needs curbstomping

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

wasn't there a whole thing about this, where NotW execs were claiming that legal privilege meant their lawyers couldn't spill the beans about anything, or even defend themselves against accusations?

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Something like that, yeah.

Meantime, go California?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Jon Craig of Sky News reports that David Cameron has gone in to see the Conservative 1922 backbench committee to justify his response to the phone-hacking scandal, including his decision to hire Andy Coulson.

Craig says there was 40 seconds of "desk banging" when the prime minister entered the room, intended to give him the message: "Stick it up 'em, carry on and it'll be all right in the end!"

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

pretty much every member of the 1922 committee deserves to be locked in a 10' square room with 200 ferrets

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

We need an Americanism to replace 'desk banging,' obv.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

i wish the 1922 committee meetings were televised

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

irrumatio xp

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

what i've always wondered is whose blood the goblets are filled with

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- Ah yes, Latin America.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

i've worked in westminster fwiw. if a shorter version of that article was in the telegraph or the guardian then he would have gone immediately because it would be the lead thing on the today show every day until he quit

― caek, Wednesday, 20 July 2011

?

there were shorter versions in the guardian all the time.

zvookster, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

btw mensch makes me think of a phrase of julie burchill's - explaining her support for thatcher - something about "mistaking cruelty for idealism"

zvookster, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Why are Mensch's adenoids not worthy of comment when Miliband's are?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

yah it's not right that adenoidal tory mps and twittosphere LEGENDS get to be called MENSCH

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.alanconnor.com/log/2011/murdoch-pie-attack-i-was-there/

re: pie-thrower, i can't help but think...dude is only 26? he looks FKN AWFUL for his age :o

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Mensch was saying to Jon Snow last night, in a comically diplomatic/poker-faced way that she was not a member of the 1922 committee because it is "not...really...representative of the views of MPs from my intake"

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

P big achievement to look like a more haggard version of Ricky Gervais while being 24 years younger than Ricky Gervais I guess

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

it is still amazing to me that somehow he managed to get the pie right in his own face

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

the guy has more talent than we thought i guess

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

that was wendi! after she slapped him she threw the plate back at him

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

They should be on a reboot of It's A Knockout.

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

All the "Thanks alot, pie idiot!" is a little OTT. I bet the hearing are getting more coverage today because of that stunt. No doubt even the articles that mainly focus on the pie are still explaining what it's all about, the non-pie aspect of it. The internet loves a backlash tho....

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think it's so much serious belief that it will have "played into RM's hands" or w/e, more just that it was a big deal to see him finally held to account and not the kind of thing you want derailed by facile student flashmob idiot shit

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/20/why-i-foam-pied-rupert-murdoch

Can't remember if this has been posted already? "Jonnie Marbles received no fee for this article" was funny, don't want another Max Gogarty on your hands

He said he "did it for all the people who couldn't", to which one of the 780-odd radged off commenters said "nobody asked you to"

I think "why I foam-pied Murdoch" as an article title still gives him too much credit, he got it on his jacket then got battered and pied by his wife, right?

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

the response might be OTT, because the internet sure loves a pile-on, but the anger is valid. the hearing didn't need any publicity, at least not in the UK. it was already top of the news material. today's stories should have been exclusively examining what the Murdochs and Brooks said to Parliament, and how it stands up to what we already know, and where the investigation will go next. instead a section of the press, especially the Murdoch-controlled section, has been able to change the focus of attention ever so slightly to the adventures of some mook who is so unbearable in real life that he has to pull softcore shite like this - and still fails at it - in order to get the attention he clearly craves.

Mecha-Geir Solid (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

If politics is all about tactics then this cunt is the Leeroy Jenkins of the anti News Corp movement.

Mecha-Geir Solid (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

my objections to him are as much aesthetic as political. oh you threw a cream pie how ~wacky~ and ~playful~ YOU CUNT.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

This bit from a Forbes article I read is fuckin' killer:

At Rupert Murdoch's tabloids, refusing to play ball meant being pushed to the sidelines. One reporter who said he went through that was Charles Begley, News of the World's Harry Potter correspondent in 2001 when Brooks was its editor.

The then 29-year-old reporter said he wore a Harry Potter costume to work and officially changed his name to that of the fictional boy wizard, all part of the paper's attempt to tap into the Pottermania sweeping both sides of the Atlantic.

On Sept. 11, hours after the fall of the Twin Towers, Begley was stunned to be chewed out by News of the World management for not wearing his costume. He said he was then ordered to attend the next news meeting in full Potter regalia.

Shaken by the demand, Begley never showed up, and soon afterward parted ways with the paper.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Marbles didn't do it to protest against Murdoch, he did it to promote his 'comedy' act. Fuck him. It was one step below two old time music hall guys bursting in and going "I say I say I say" "I do not wish to know that, kindly leave the inquiry!"

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

I am still laughing at the idea of a Harry Potter correspondent.

Marbles is sub-Custos at best.

online pinata store (Nicole), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

luckily, he's so obviously talentless and unlikeable that there's no actual danger that he'll successfully ca-
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2009/3/6/1236368746637/Piers-Morgan-001.jpg

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

apparently CNN is going big on the murdochs, but very very small on their man piers having been a NOTW editor?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I hate Piers Morgan, not least because for a second he made me feel amiable towards Jeremy Clarkson (who punched Morgan).

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

Reasonably straightforward here:

ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
It's Oh So Quiet... For Now. Not Tomorrow.

She'd already indicated another major arrest this week was in the cards.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

I still don't understand why/how he is employed by CNN.

online pinata store (Nicole), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

finding someone to step into larry king's shoes is like asking someone to put on a used condom

goole, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

Now imagine Piers Morgan reading the Bible to Homer Simpson as the latter waits for death.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

ok genuine lol @ goole

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

finding someone to step into larry king's shoes is like asking someone to put on a used condom

this is such a successful, succinctly gross image that i'm surprised it isn't part of the vernacular

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://clatl.com/images/blogimages/2011/07/20/1311176432-19_dengslap.gif

Courtesy of Atlanta's Creative Loafing.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

Some quality outraged standing-up by Louise Mensch there.

Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

That one guy in the suit that barges thru from the right, he doesn't really help much does he?

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Whatderyouthinkyerdooinmissy?

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Damn the Sky News logo getting in the way there tbh

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Mensch is probably thinking 'Enter Flanman'.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Rumor mill stuff re: the hacking on Monday:

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2011/07/lulzec-news-international-emails/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

it is interesting how much closer this has got to cameron on account of the incremental newsbreaks that've happened in the past few weeks; tomorrow's headlines are about his dinners with the NI people. it is really up his ass now.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJwM1DnLu4

who's telling the truth here? was she directly quoting from his book? always a pleasure to see piers morgan squirming, mind

NI, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

Morgan was telling the truth, in that she misquoted his book horribly. Whether he was telling the truth on the broader point that the allegations are incorrect remains to be seen.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

ok thanks, feel uneasy siding with morgan but to claim a direct quote and be lying, in such circumstances, is kindof wow

NI, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

Especially because she's legally protected by saying it in Parliamentary business. She will not repeat the allegation outside the HoP because INSTANT LIBEL.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

The moment at 5:33 where she says "Oh, I'm so scared" is too funny though.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

Surely you mean, "I'm tho thcared."

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

Probably bad fact-checking rather than a deliberate attempt to lie. There's a suggestion that she picked the idea up from the Guido Fawkes blog and didn't bother to verify whether it was true. Watching her fail to admit that is amazing, though.

It's an extraordinary performance - defensive to the point of being genuinely childish. She appears to be wearing a Metallica lanyard so one bonus point for that though.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

any reports on the outcome of the 1922 committee meeting yet?

i was disappointed to hear about their show of support for him at the start; i'd think that, even with how close it's got to him, the trigger for a putative cameron departure would still have to come from losing the confidence of his own party. i'd thought being summoned to 1922 was an indication of this.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

Private Eye suggesting that the provenance of the Sunday Mirror's scoops on Rio Ferdinand and Angus Deayton around the same time may also be dodgy. Richard Wallace was involved and now edits the Mirror, with the Eye banging the drum for him to be summoned to give evidence given Piers' evasiveness

Interested to see who the first non-News International guys to get outed in this will be . If there's a god up there there's surely gotta be tidal wave of shit heading for the Mail at some point

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

xp I don't think he was summoned - it was already arranged. Also, Bagshawe is Bunty.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, think Mensch told Jon's No it was a regular thing that had been postponed because of the various goings on?

MPx4A, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

She appears to be wearing a Metallica lanyard so one bonus point for that though.

She married Metallica/Chili Peppers manager Peter Mensch a couple of weeks ago - was chick lit "author" Louise Bagshawe until then

Booger T. Jones (sic), Thursday, 21 July 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

I can't see Cameron resigning or the party moving against him unless he has been careless and hard evidence comes out that he was involved more directly than we know. It may weaken his position given the serious lack of judgement in hiring Coulson and cavorting with Wade. Barring something spectacular it usually takes more than one bit of mud to take down a political leader.

scandally (seandalai), Thursday, 21 July 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm:

In the latest development in the phone hacking scandal, Rupert Murdoch’s company agreed to release details of its dealings with Harbottle & Lewis, the lawyers who for four years held company emails containing details of wrongdoing at the Sunday tabloid. Documents held by Harbottle & Lewis, who act for the Royal family, have been described as the “smoking gun” that could prove that senior figures in Mr Murdoch’s empire were aware of hacking but tried to cover it up.
Despite protests from MPs and pressure from the law firm, News International had refused to release Harbottle & Lewis from legal obligations of confidentiality, meaning that the lawyers could not co-operate fully with police and parliamentary inquiries.
Last night the company relented and said it would allow the lawyers to disclose at least some of the information they hold to detectives and MPs. While the move could help to solve the mystery of the company’s response to the scandal, it remained unclear how much information would be disclosed, and whether it would be put in the public domain.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

I would be willing to bet that NI would not allow anything incriminating from being released in this manner, so anything less than a full release would simply be a continuation of the cover up with the object of appearing cooperative while withholding crucial evidence.

Aimless, Thursday, 21 July 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

Sounds like the law firm felt pretty pissed off that the Murdochs were essentially dumping on them at the hearing, though.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

so was murdoch acting deliberately contemptuous of the panel or is he just "not all there"? it was really hard to tell. he seemed to treat the committee as though he were multitasking--hardly devoting most of his mental resources to engaging with the questions or even the entire set of circumstances.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 21 July 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMeYdSYCC7A

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 July 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

basically, yeah.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 21 July 2011 06:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ha I love that scene.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 21 July 2011 06:26 (twelve years ago) link

Barring something spectacular it usually takes more than one bit of mud to take down a political leader.

yeah - as it stands i don't think this will bring down cameron, but i do wonder what brooks and co have on him, and whether it'll get to a point where they reveal it.

where does louise mensch find the time to tweet so much, good god.

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:24 (twelve years ago) link

She's just killing time iirc.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:32 (twelve years ago) link

i do wonder what brooks and co have on him, and whether it'll get to a point where they reveal it.

i liked it when she said coulson was hired on geo. osborne's advice. did she have to volunteer that information?

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:38 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder why nobody has mentioned Steve Hilton's name in connection with this clusterfuck... so far.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

i think hilton on the whole really hates the osborne tendency, and it's osborne who is most keen on NI. otoh he was apparently at the pre-dowler summit the other weekend. idk.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link

Really feeling sorry for ilx user NI atm

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:07 (twelve years ago) link

@NeilInnes on Twitter:

Harbottle and Lewis were my lawyers when the Rutles "arrived". I was left with no copyright, no writing credit and no producers royalties.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

the NI thing is limp, & shouldn't even be reported as cooperation if it's selective. like palin's e-mails.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

Adam McLuhan
Louise Mensch = Cersei Lannister. #gameofthrones #phonehacking

Louise Mensch
@adammcluhan danaerys targarean and @maindepowr is the khal

abcfsk, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:35 (twelve years ago) link

I really want to contribute to this thread but am still hypnotised by the flan throwing loop. Esp. Mensch going 'O' and then looking over at the chair as if to check if it's ok to stand up, and then standing up, all in the blink of an eye.

And Sheridan not moving at all.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

Sheridan's from Paisley, he's probably non-plussed by far worse forms of assault.

Meanwhile, in today's Times:

http://lockerz.com/s/122196367

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

what i love about the pie gif is that there are six mps around that table who do not react at all

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

that times cartoon is so o_0

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

can't believe the guardian is purposefully starving those somalian kids

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

let's think about who the real villains are here

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

As if the lying, mendacious, greedy fucks that Murdoch supports have absolutely ~nothing~ to do with the international politics that creates global poverty?

That cartoon might have some weight if they spent, you know, one "QUANTUM" of effort changing it the rest of the damn year.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

this deborah orr piece is good on the psychology of it all http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/20/deborah-orr-murdoch-downfall

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen the Sun or the NoW lead on a famine story.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:52 (twelve years ago) link

otm. what a choice moment to gain perspective. like with clegg, in his speech at the moment, saying, let's talk about the real issue, the economy - it is not in dispute that the two things are generally characteristically different, but that the phone-hacking thing is about the fabric of our democracy rather than the specifics and scale of what acts were carried out. it's like treating watergate as a burglary.
xxxp

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

That Times cartoon just got sent to a Somali friend who will probably complain to NI about how offensive it is.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

clegg, in his speech at the moment, saying, let's talk about the real issue, the economy

We've got 4 fucking years to talk about the economy, is it OK for use people to talk about what they want to talk about, you arsehole?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

clegg, in his speech at the moment, saying, let's talk about the real issue, the economy leave him alone, he's my friend...

Mark G, Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

he's reeling off a list of, 'i was the first person in government to req a judge-lead enquiry, the first to call for murdoch to...' &c&c; he somehow manages to do the exact opposite of what he intends - signifying independence & LD vision - by sounding like some asshole housemate who has kept track of how many toilet rolls they bought.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

'i was the 200th first person in government parliament to req a judge-lead enquiry

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah that they're either pedantic or selective references to how he joined a pile-on is a whole other thing. it was a thing that was frustrating about the reports of the murdochs' 'contrition' at the hearings - it isn't sincere at the point at which you've been compelled to do it & its become the option most likely to work well for you.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

there wasn't much more than a quantum of contrition anyway. a lot of blather from james and the uncle junior act from rupe.

think the hearings were a kind of climax followed by a bit of a lull now, but im assuming caek's brother is 'all over it' and will provide some content at some point.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

clegg, in his speech at the moment, saying, let's talk about the real issue, the economy he didn't think the last Coldplay single was much cop, took it back to HMV, got some points for his reward card

Once Were Moderators (DG), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

Team 2012 and Visa sold the exclusive rights to interview British athletes during the Olympics to News International back in January:

The partnership allows News International newspapers (The Sun, News of the World, The Times and The Sunday Times) to all carry the title ‘Official Newspaper of Team 2012’. Over the next 18 months News International will undertake a multi-channel campaign featuring Team 2012 to engage their audiences to get behind each of the athletes, their sports and their personal stories as they prepare for the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games.
Now the deal's off.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

It's just under review, isn't it?

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

Media Week says "News International is understood to have lost exclusive access to Britain's top athletes" - http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1081280/News-World-closure-hits-News-Int-Olympic-deal/

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link

AWESOME

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

Via twitter:

anonymouSabu - We're releasing something we found in The Sun's mail server, shortly. Ouch. Ready for the media storm? 9 minutes ago via web

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

there's a 'maybe we won't' message up now, regarding provisional release of the sun's e-mails - i can't quite tell how the two relate/whether they are referring to the same thing. the drama of this kind of thing is a bit offputting.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Louise Boat needs to shit or get off the pot here

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Reading anonymouSabu's bickering with CharlesArthur today makes him read like a 16-year-old.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link

If only the manager of Metallica had the surname Boat.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

And forename, Viking

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

Had to unfollow LulzSec and AnonymousSabu after like a day, they come across as total cretins tbh

MPx4A, Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

xp Middle name Long

scandally (seandalai), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link

We think, actually we may not release emails from The Sun, simply because it may compromise the court case.

http://twitter.com/#!/AnonymousIRC/status/94012373748285440

scandally (seandalai), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

Guardian blog pushing quite hard on the Coulson security clearance question, basically saying that for Cameron not to put him through developed vetting was very anomalous.

scandally (seandalai), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

Reading anonymouSabu's bickering with CharlesArthur today makes him read like a 16-year-old.

― stet, Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:27 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

he probably is a 16-year-old

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

am trying to work it up into something more indignant but my antipathy towards the hacker guys who aren't releasing their sun e-mails it mainly just frustration, because i am bored. today is boring so far.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

im trying to figure out if there is a relevant court case in hand...? until that happens i don't think anything is sub judice; but im guessing i know about as much as a lulzsecker on this score.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

yah dont think i approve of these modern hacker guys. why cant they be more like that nice young man from 'War Games', genial, well-meaning, perhaps chill to some Simple Minds whilst waiting for their 'dial-up' 'modem' to 'log on'

Once Were Moderators (DG), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

Really feeling sorry for ilx user NI atm

― Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 July 2011 09:07

haha cheers, i'm one of the forgotten victims in this whole sorry saga :(

NI, Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

Would releasing the Sun info actually threaten anything? Couldn't the police then be like "ummm, we would like to see this file" to get what they had already read online? Or am I being fickle?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

LATEST: Ex-News of the World editor Colin Myler and legal chief Tom Crone issue statement saying James Murdoch's evidence to select committee was 'mistaken'. More details soon …

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

6.47pm: James Murdoch's account to the Commons culture select committee about his involvement in agreeing the out-of-court settlement with the former head of the Professional Footballers' Association, Gordon Taylor, was mistaken, according to a statement issued by former News of the World editor Colin Myler and former News international legal manager Tom Crone.

The statement says:

"Just by way of clarification relating to Tuesday's CMS Select Committee hearing, we would like to point out that James Murdoch's recollection of what he was told when agreeing to settle the Gordon Taylor litigation was mistaken.

In fact, we did inform him of the "for Neville" email which had been produced to us by Gordon Taylor's lawyers."

The Neville referred to in the statement is Neville Thurlbeck, the paper's former chief reporter. In 2009, documents passed to the culture committee revealed that he read transcripts of 35 hacked telephone messages between Gordon Taylor and Jo Armstrong, a legal advisor at the PFA.

They were sent in an email to the private investigator Glenn Mulcaire by an unnamed junior reporter on the paper on 29 June 2005. In the email, the reporter says "Hello, this is the transcript for Neville". The committee was told by Guardian reporter Nick Davies this was Neville Thurlbeck.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Trying to gauge the exact significance of this. I note also that Miskiw is apparently heading back to the UK for police questioning.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

The Murdochs lied to the select committee? What a massive shock.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not so much sure it's that, but as NV said upthread, it's getting people to commit to positions in public, in front of a select committee, that later become unsustainable. It's because Rebekah Brooks painted The Sun newsroom as persil white that any revelations concerning The Sun will fray the fabric of her evidence.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile, don't forget...the bag!

7.09pm: More news of the mystery bag belonging to Rebekah Brooks's husband which was found in a bin in an underground car park near the couple's home on Monday.

Charlie Brooks has said the bag – which contained papers and a lap top – is his and does not contain material connected with the phone hacking inquiry. My colleague Amelia Hill has a story on this soon. Here's a taste:

The Brooks's spokesperson David Wilson said that Charlie Brooks is currently "disappointed" that three days later, police are still refusing to return the bag but remains confident that, once they have established the bag is his, it will be returned to him.

"Police have been in touch and have asked for the passwords," he confirmed. "Charlie was hoping it would be returned before now but he is adamant that everything it is his computer and that there is nothing on it that is Rebekah's and nothing that has anything to do with the case [into phone hacking].

"He hopes it will all be returned without much more delay. It is in their [the police's] hands now but Charlie is confident they will return it in the fullness of time," he added.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

james murdoch to be recalled to the sel com, lol

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

I was about to say! So maybe there will be something about that...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Love the new image on the Guardian front page:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2011/7/20/1311192784970/James-Murdoch-at-phone-ha-007.jpg

BTW:

7.25pm: James Murdoch stands by what he told the select committee about the Gordon Taylor settlement, according to a statement by News Corp.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

And in 40 years' time he'll look more like

http://images.newstatesman.com/articles/2011//20110721_119432497_w.jpg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

ok now we got fun

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, this is some bad newsie-wewsies for James

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5z4CJRFBKY

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

'then i guess that would be the first time somebody's lied under oath.'

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Whoa, things firing up again:

8.33pm: A former News of the World executive has been sacked from the Sun, according to Sky News.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile a full Guardian story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/21/james-murdoch-select-committee-evidence

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMnnQUZ9R8

8.19pm: The top civil servant at the Department for Education (DoE) has confirmed that one of his senior officials believed his mobile phone was being hacked.

The allegation was raised with David Cameron by Labour MP Nick Raynsford, who said the official had been targeted while Andy Coulson was Downing Street's director of communications.

The confirmation comes in a letter from the permanent secretary of the DoE, Sir David Bell, to Sir Gus O'Donnell, the cabinet secretary.

The letter states that in July 2010 the official told the DoE security officer that "as well as media harassment by telephone and outside his home, he suspected his mobile phone had been tampered with, for the purposes of intercepting calls."

Bell adds that the official decided to deal with the matter himself. In a follow-up conversation, "the official confirmed that neither the police nor the mobile telephone company were able to identify any malpractice. He also confirmed that he no longer had concerns about phone tampering.

"I therefore concluded that no further action was appropriate, and that it was not necessary to inform either you or the secretary of state for education."

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

altogether was p impressed by jimmy at the hearing, lieing through his teeth for three hours with oleaginous poise

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

Prescient tweet from Matt Nixson the other day:

Gutted by @billybragg's new song. Massive massive fan for years. Now I'm not allowed to have a job anymore. 2:27 PM Jul 11th via web

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

Really sad how nasty Twitter has allowed people to become and how publicly. 2:32 PM Jul 11th via web

^ Not like that News of the World at all

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, this Matt Nixson who has just been sacked from the Sun - is he the same Matt Nixson that also works for... the Mail on Sunday???

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

ok that guardian front page is hilarious

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

soon to be a quandom quantum...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

has this been posted already:

A former Fox News producer told the London Telegraph that the cable network had a "black ops" team that carried out "counterintelligence" on its enemies in the late-1990s. What people thought was a Fox News research department "was staffed by 15 researchers and had a guard at the door," Don Cooper, who helped launch Fox News in 1996, told the paper. "No one working there would engage in conversation."

A spokesman for Fox News vehemently denied the Telegraph report: "Each of these allegations is completely false. Dan Cooper was terminated six weeks after the launch of the Fox News Channel in 1996 and has peddled these lies for the past 15 years.

And the "brain room" referenced in the Telegraph piece "is nothing more than a creatively named research department," a Fox spokeswoman told The Cutline.

No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

Hahah, some fun detail here...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2006/may/10/newsoftheworld.pressandpublishing

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

A little more about this sacking:

--

9.09pm: In a statement issued tonight in response to questions about the reported sacking of Sun features editor Matt Nixson, News Corporation confirmed that an employee had been sacked over his work at the News of the World.

"News Corporation's Management and Standards Committee can confirm that News International today (Thursday, July 21) terminated the contract of a member of staff in relation to his previous work at the News of the World.

The MSC is authorised to co-operate fully with all relevant investigations and inquiries in the News of the World phone hacking case, police payments and all other related issues across News International, as well as conducting its own enquiries where appropriate."

Nixson was appointed news editor of the News of the World in 2006 and became features editor the following year.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Tom Watson having a real pop at Peston on Twitter.

stet, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

TomArgh, Stet beat me to it. Watson vs Robert Peston currently on Twitter has the potential to be as hilarious as Charles Arthur vs Sabu earlier.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

Argh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

STILL can't read Sabu without thinking ee-cee-dub and getting disappointed remembering things didn't suddenly turn into a death match

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

About Nixson -- theoretically he'd be arrested as well, yes? Kinda find it hard to believe they'd just go 'oh he's fired for phone hacking' and nobody does anything, at this point.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Related, I suspect:

Marie X
ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
I could have exposed them all publicly... However I chose to hand their names over to the police. :D M

Marie X
ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
More people will lose their jobs in the coming week.. I cannot confirm or deny if I had a part to play. M

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

the sacking's interesting if he dimes coulson really

the james murdoch thing could be a pip tho

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

matt nixson's finest hour was when he was on a local paper where i worked for the opposition. after 9/11 he wrote their splash which I can still remember by heart: "scouts from finchley last week enjoyed views from the top of the twin towers - yesterday they were coming to terms with their destruction." the paper made it worse by running an ad for "twin towers language school" next to it on the front page.

RIP big man.

joe, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

Not only a perfect splash of wrong (as it were), it makes it seem like the Scouts were the ones destroyed.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

9.52pm: My colleague Nick Watts has more on the sacking tonight of Sun features editor Matt Nixson.

Matt Nixson, who has worked for the Sun for six months, was approached by four News International security guards at 6.30pm at the newspaper's office at Wapping. The guards asked him to leave the building because he was being dismissed. His computer was seized. News International sources stressed this was standard procedure and did not indicate any wrong doing during Nixson's time at the Sun. They said the evidence indicating wrong doing related to his time at the News of the World.

The evidence against Nixson was uncovered as part of the internal News International investigation run at Wapping by Will Lewis, the company's general manager, and Simon Greenberg, the director of corporate affairs. Lewis and Greenberg report to Lord Grabiner, the QC who is acting as the independent chairman of News Corporation's management and standards committee.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

Also, lol.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

feel a bit bad for nixson now: he was a very good reporter, that lapse aside, and incredibly driven. i think nick davies is right to stress how the culture in places like the notw corrupts.

joe, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah... this isn't that big of a thing rly. it shows NI is 'cleaning up' or whatever.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

Based on his ability to talk Gordon Brown out of pursuing the phone-hacking issue and his knock-back of the allegations of Coulson hacking in Number 10 after a civil servant complained, I say we should be paying closer attention to Sir Gus O'Donnell.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

@charleslavery Coulson will face perjury charges and stand trial in Scotland. QC Paul McBride met his client @ London's Matrix Chambers. #hackgate #notw

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol. imo the more shit that gets smeared on cameron and osborne the better. the tories will not enjoy it and will start to get restless -- it doesn't take much with them. this will do the trick nicely.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

It's been a busy night. In other news, dumbshit here accidentally broke Lucian Freud's death news to one of his sitters. :-(

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

Lucian Freud was just about to spill the beans!!!

bernerrrrr! berrrrrnowwww.... (Eazy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

I believe I was addressing... not you.

Anyway, this'll be Coulson gwan dahhhhhhhhn. The silver lining in the permatanned cloud that is the Tommy Sheridan case.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

Watson vs Robert Peston currently on Twitter has the potential to be as hilarious as Charles Arthur vs Sabu earlier.

someone post ed highs

Booger T. Jones (sic), Friday, 22 July 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.theage.com.au/business/regulator-deals-blow-to-foxtels-bid-for-austar-20110722-1hrsr.html

^ Murdoch wants to increase his pay TV share here but the competition regulator disagrees. Probably not related to #notw but excellent timing.

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Friday, 22 July 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'm wondering what fallout this will all have on Aus's burgeoning NBN (new fibre internet national network) as far as media saturation goes. I would have had NI/Fox chokehold fears up til recently but now, who knows.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

i am finding the act of journalistic liveblogging, the type which paul owen has been carrying out today & yesterday, really compelling. the guardian are doing the thing that cameron has posited an enquiry would, of following information irrespective of where it might lead, pursuing whatever's come up - eg the vetting issue & the anomalies it exposes - and tabulating it against what's already happened. i maybe am just vicariously getting my all the president's men on but the incremental, collaborative, syllogising progress is fascinating tow atch.

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

tow atch toe ouch to watch

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

Now the Feds are getting involved

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

the security-check thing is pretty damaging imo. it's exactly the sort of thing the roger altons and kelvin mackenzies of this world will say is 'too obscure for ordinary notw-reading, britain's got talent-voting folk to understand', because they're cunts.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah indeed. but it's such an interesting detail, because i'm sure anyone involved would have been relying on that exact idea - that it was the kind of private & obscure thing that would never escape the rooms it was bandied about in. the vetting thing is interesting because the idea that coulson was hired, in spite of warnings, and insufficiently vetted, in spite of procedure & the fact that, more than most, there were reasons to vet him - it brings up wilful blindness again, & stops being about someone overlooking some details. but yeah obviously it is easy for people to compare the smallprint of vetting procedure negatively to (obviously significant &c&c, but disingenuously employed things like) somalia or something else distracting

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I asked a Somali friend from a political family what *he* thought should happen - since the pressure to 'think about Somali famine now' seems to come from white people who don't want to discuss NI - and the answer was: go the fuck after Cameron.

Cameron seems to be using the posh person's crutch - insinuating that a topic is too boring or too obscure to be of sustained interest to him.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

LOL so true

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

Michael Rosen's piece in today's Graun about the language 'appropriated' by James Murdoch is good, but doesn't go nearly far enough in pointing out that a nation got drunk playing MBA Bullshit Bingo - QUANTUM EDITION whenever Murdoch fils opened his mouth. There was also the cackhanded attempt to apply NLP stylings. If I were on the panel, and I was faced with 'I stand by my earlier statement', it would be tempting to reply 'That makes you a bystander. Now: yes or no, did you mislead the committee?'

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

private eye has a one-panel cartoon in it this week that makes the exact same joke as that times cartoon btw

context is kinda everything here though i guess since in private eye, it's essentially taking the piss out of the publication it appears in (private eye does nefarious doings of the upper classes like no-one else) but in the times it's the opposite

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

the security-check thing is pretty damaging imo. it's exactly the sort of thing the roger altons and kelvin mackenzies of this world will say is 'too obscure for ordinary notw-reading, britain's got talent-voting folk to understand', because they're cunts.

It's also the kind of thing the Altons, Mackenzies and esp the Dacres would have excoriated past governments for.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

Tom Watson: James—sorry, if I may call you James, to differentiate—when you signed off the Taylor payment, did you see or were you made aware of the full Neville e-mail, the transcript of the hacked voicemail messages?

James Murdoch: No, I was not aware of that at the time.

That question is so classic. If that's the blow that takes Murdoch out, then he couldn't have delivered it in a nicer way.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

Michael Rosen's piece in today's Graun

Thought this was interesting although I find linguistics v. confusing. I'm glad he mentioned Cameron's "The point I'm trying to make is this…" because that is really quite irritating.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link

"At the time"

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like, "no, not until five minutes later"...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron seems to be using the posh person's crutch - insinuating that a topic is too boring or too obscure to be of sustained interest to him.

it would have been nice if he'd been challenged in the same fashion that one might use to press James a little harder; the first time Cameron was confronted in the Commons about this he successfully moved the discussion on by playing down the talk of warnings from fleet street etc as unimportant smallprint, then a few days later as wild conspiracy theories. it's gross that he's answering questions in a way that doesn't recognise the importance of it being interrogated, consequential of his shitty behaviour.

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

xps - haha, yes, i lolled at that bit esp. in context of much vaunted hatred of Watson by Murdochs.

a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

Michael Rosen's piece in today's Graun about the language 'appropriated' by James Murdoch is good, but doesn't go nearly far enough in pointing out that a nation got drunk playing MBA Bullshit Bingo - QUANTUM EDITION whenever Murdoch fils opened his mouth

yeah i enjoyed that piece but would have liked it to be three times the length (or, hell, a whole book on the subject would be a good idea).

it was v much the elephant in the room at the time: as suzy says, it's what every spectator was commenting on, but every one of the MPs felt for some reason they couldn't comment on what was a very obvious tactic, trying vainly to pin the murdochs down on content => a mug's game.

lex pretend, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm:

A leading private investigations firm said it had strong reason to suspect that Will Lewis, a senior executive of Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, was involved in "orchestrating" a leak of material from a competing news organization which helped Murdoch's business interests.

...

Kroll advised the Telegraph that because of the number of people who had access to data banks - including employees for telecoms giant, BT, to whom the Telegraph outsourced technical support functions - that even if the leak investigation continued, it was unlikely to produce a conclusive result.

However, Kroll investigators say in the report that they have strong reason to suspect that Will Lewis, a former chief editor at the Daily Telegraph and by late 2010 a senior executive at News International, was involved in facilitating the leak, along with another former Telegraph employee who also later moved to News International.

This is all apparently to do with the Cable recording.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

^^^Will Lewis is also Robert Peston's best friend and is widely believed to be the NI insider that RP cites in his reports.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

Clarity.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile on the security clearance front:

3.27pm: Ian Katz writes: Andy Coulson had begun undergoing high security vetting in November, around three months before he resigned as David Cameron's director of communications, the Guardian has learned.

Downing Street has been under pressure to explain why the former News of the World editor was not subjected to so-called "developed vetting", the high security checking process most previous No 10 press secretaries have undergone. Both Coulson's successor and his former deputy, Gabby Bertin, are undergoing developed vetting.

A Whitehall source said the decision not to subject Coulson to developed vetting was taken by Jeremy Heywood, the Downing Street permanent secretary. The source said it was decided that, as director of communications, Coulson did not need access to highly secret material and that developed vetting was a costly, unnecessary expense.

The source stressed that Coulson's lower level of clearance, "security check" or SC, did allow him to have access to material designated "secret" and to "top secret" material under supervision. He also said that the controversy surrounding Tony Blair's press chief Alastair Campbell's access to intelligence material was a consideration in deciding to give Coulson a lower level of vetting.

The source said that following the discovery of an explosive device on a plane at East Midlands airport in October, it was decided that Coulson did need developed vetting to deal with similar terrorism-related issues and the process was started. The process can take three to six months and had not been completed when Coulson resigned saying the phone-hacking scandal meant he could no longer work effectively.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

He also said that the controversy surrounding Tony Blair's press chief Alastair Campbell's access to intelligence material was a consideration in deciding to give Coulson a lower level of vetting.

Bollocks

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Context, pls? How could a prior controversy lead to a lower level of vetting?

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I assume the logic is that the controversy was caused by the press chief having access to intelligence material, so if you withhold access you don't have to do the vetting.

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed. Still reads like a pathetic dig at New Labour to me though.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

That explanation is bollocks, and totally digs on Campbell out of tribalism rather than any substantive comparison between his and Coulson's positions.

I am sure Coulson was paid the same or more than a directly vetted official, even if he was only cleared to 'top secret', so Number 10's point is what, exactly?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if coulson ended up having access to top-level security documents despite his low clearance rating..

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

i.e.

Assistant Commissioner John Yates told MPs he had met Coulson to discuss, among other issues, counter-terrorism.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, but you never know with the Met, he was probably discussing it with the cleaning lady as well

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Who was also recommended by NI.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

...because right now, it's looking like Campbell was able to pass DV with flying colours, whereas Coulson abandoned the process and his job.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

What, if anything, will this mean for Cameron's plans to privatize many public services?

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Is this a distraction from that or will this sour the electorate on private corporations running public services?

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

It's one of those things where a majority of the public are opposed, but scar-ooooooo what we might think or want.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Cameron + Clegg aim to dismantle the public sector come what may, don't see anything standing in the way of that, and I've heard it argued that Clegg is even more fanatical about this than Cameron

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Dismantle the public sector or privatize it, suzy? Are unions and 'entrenched bureaucracy' the problem in some neo-Thatcherite way or is this just a trojan horse way to kill public services altogether?

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Neo-Thatcherite, that sums up Clegg for sure

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/QDcxn.jpg

James Mitchell, Friday, 22 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

o_O

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 22 July 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

dunno abt co durham but i can believe the other two letters are real

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

the letters don't matter, just imagine what's underneath that dress, phwooaarrrrh.

i mean, could they not just have a picture of a typewriter, or a hammer, or something australian for some context?

whatever, Friday, 22 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

a koala in a bikini? phwoar?

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, bbc reporting notw hired someone to stalk tom watson back in 2009

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

(presumably not robert peston)

Once Were Moderators (DG), Friday, 22 July 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Tinker Tailor stuff indeed.

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

Lord Leveson, while chairman of the Sentencing Council that advises the Government on punishing criminals, met Mr Freud at a dinner in February last year in an Oxford University college.
The pair discussed how to promote public confidence in the criminal justice system.

delicious

zappi, Friday, 22 July 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

jesus christ just nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

it's not even a tiny surprise at this point but here we are - amy winehouse was hacked. http://charleslavery.org/2011/07/24/amy-winehouse-was-hacked/

lex pretend, Sunday, 24 July 2011 09:28 (twelve years ago) link

Here's the thing: anyone who was a showbiz editor on an NI title and later rose to an editorship there or anywhere else is probably a 'beneficiary' of phone hacking, if not an outright practitioner. I've never met a showbiz ed who hasn't been a giant, flaming self-aggrandizing asshole.

Someone who used to work for ESM in the early '90s got into tabloid journalism via the other method - dealing Class A drugs to fellow hacks. There was an ESM bus trip to a club outside of London back in the day and this person managed to lose an entire baggie full of pills en route. Most of us couldn't stand this person and spent the rest of the trip indulging in quiet satisfaction as we watched the individual hunt high and low for the lost pills, trying to pretend nothing important had happened.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 24 July 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

i find it really hard to gauge the import of a lot of this stuff, since things that i would've thought would be explosive have so far been brushed off - but that should be huge, right?

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

It already feels like something that's a weird relic. "You bent over backwards for these guys that much?"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

i just don't know where the 'line' is, in differentiating between the kind of dealmaking that obviously happened, but was perhaps implicit, & that obviously labour did in not opposing media takeovers, & happens a lot, etc, & the sort of thing that just seems like egregiously non-democratic influence-buying, as above.

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

xpost "I wonder what they have on you?"

StanM, Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

The sad thing is that I feel like in the US there are stories unearthed about how some company basically asked a legislator to take some action or even handed him a pre-drafted bill to present all the time, and they rarely blow up into anything. Hopefully the timing of this plus the blatant anti-competitiveness of it will help it gain steam.

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i mean it fits p neatly into the narrative currently being, they were too cosy, they met a lot, they discussed deals maybe in breach of propriety laws &c

a website about Jewish rock stars (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

it's pretty difficult to prove influence, is the problem

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

or 'why not to use twitter'

Once Were Moderators (DG), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

i am so amazed by the technology of that sort of thing that i lose any critical faculty. the way the bubbles gravitate towards the centre & that the bubbles represent people's writing. like i just don't care whether it's good or bad.

radioactive computer (schlump), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

i see they weren't counting "wtf" though

lex pretend, Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJwM1DnLu4

sort of wonder if it would be legal to 'buy' an mp and get them convene committees at which they randomly slander and abuse public figures

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure that ilx poster ismael klata is in fact one of the millibands, tbh? not narrowed it down to which yet obvs

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

they're jewish......

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

server glitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZtVm8wtyFI

zvookster, Monday, 25 July 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

boy you take your throwaways pretty seriously nakh

CH3C(O)N(CH3)2 (darraghmac), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

The facial expressions Mensch pulls in reaction to Morgan's patched-in voice are fantastic, I'd like to see what she'd have come up with if they'd been together in the studio.

boxall, Monday, 25 July 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

The “guilt by association” is also painfully reminiscent of the McCarthy era in the United States. “Are you or have you ever been...” translated from accusations of Communism to “...employed by, associated with or regularly met, the Murdoch family or News International.”

All of this is now in danger of diverting our attention from the two key elements which are surely at the very root of the challenge faced by Press, police and politicians. Namely, deep-seated corruption and totally unacceptable intrusion into privacy.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/columnists/david_blunkett_amid_the_feeding_frenzy_over_murdoch_let_s_remember_the_real_issues_at_the_root_of_it_all_1_3603711
SHEFFIELD MP David Blunkett was on a contract worth £5,000 a day with News International as an advisor on a social responsibility project - which finished at the end of June when the News of the World phone hacking scandal intensified.

The Labour politician, who represents Brightside and Hillsborough, was paid £25,000 for the six-month appointment but said he had only worked five days on the project, run by Rupert Murdoch’s company to help deprived youngsters.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/murdoch_s_5k_a_day_for_blunkett_1_3609778

James Mitchell, Monday, 25 July 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link

ffs

Ismael Klata, Monday, 25 July 2011 09:21 (twelve years ago) link

LIVE Keep up with all the developments as Ed Miliband releases details of his media diary since May 2010

yeah... story kind of needs more juice about now

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Monday, 25 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like your wish will be fulfilled:

The chancellor refused to be drawn on a dinner he had with Rupert Murdoch two weeks before the media regulator was due to decide on whether to approve the takeover of BSkyB. He said:

When it comes to my meetings with proprietors and editors of all newspaper groups, we are very shortly going to publish the details and I think I will leave it until that is published.

James Mitchell, Monday, 25 July 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm assuming that senior politians and media barons don't actually say certain things out loud in meetings unless they're complete idiots - there's going to be a lot unsaid or implied. They wouldn't be publishing the details unless they were relatively clean or whitewashed (and the latter would turn out to be more trouble than it was worth).

Matt DC, Monday, 25 July 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

it's hard to imagine it being any spicier than george osbourne's press engagements hugely weighted towards NI mtgs, in keeping with cameron's, everyone else's etc. unless there's details and it says they played twister, etc. the telegraph story yesterday seemed like a better continuation of that story.

but yeah i don't know what the next thing with this story will be, sorta forgetting where we're up to with each strand on account of them all having been shittily-half-explained &c

radioactive computer (schlump), Monday, 25 July 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

this picture is priceless:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01954/tor_1954107c.jpg

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

they both look like ventriloquists dummies

i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

Chunderturds are go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost: "Yay, we're going to play twister again!" "I like twister!"

StanM, Monday, 25 July 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

Roffle

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Also I've been away for a fortnight but I am so happy that 'UK End of Season Finale' has caught on. I suspect the Evening Standard lift came from Twitter rather than ILX, as I made the same joke there and it got RTed a shedload of times.

I suspect that we're into the slow and disappointing beginning to the following season mind. Feeling a distinct lack of pay-off looming.

Matt DC, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

bit of a mid-season lull, writers need to spice it up with some new characters

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rHOBCQz3geI/SahHGBMvhwI/AAAAAAAAAhM/w8yxN4Ff0ow/s320/Poochie.gif

radioactive computer (schlump), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

As long as it's not:

http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Charles/lost-jacob-and-nemesis.jpg

Matt DC, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

bit of a mid-season lull,

aka parliamentary recess which seems even sillier than ever right now

lex pretend, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

yea we should be having parliamentary ... excess

radioactive computer (schlump), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

lol at Dispatches, sounds like it has been narrated by Chris Morris in full-on parody mode.

Neil S, Monday, 25 July 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

oh it's Peter Oborne NM.

Neil S, Monday, 25 July 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

A NoTW tale

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

The Guardian reporter Nick Davies has been signed to write an authoritative account of the News Corp. scandal for Faber and Faber Inc. Financial compensation wasn't disclosed.

The book, to be titled "Hack Attack: How the Truth Caught up with the World's Most Powerful Man," will be published in the fall of 2012. Davies previously wrote "Flat Earth News."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link

Fucking lock-in.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 07:39 (twelve years ago) link

i've only read some of flat earth news but it's good.
sorta hope that by 2012 'caught up' refers to more than the gruelling culture committee appearance the world's most powerful man had to endure.

decorate the slaughterhouse with geraniums (schlump), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 08:21 (twelve years ago) link

By the way, do we have a new British politics thread for non-NI stuff?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

George Osborne met News International chiefs 16 times

... more times than i've met my mother in the same period

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

How many times has George Osborne met your mother?

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

My mother will be publishing that information soon enough, she assures me she has nothing to hide

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

When did George Osbourne stop meeting your wife?

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Tom you really should visit your mother more :)

Labour leader Ed Miliband had 14 meetings or social contacts with News International executives over the same period, while PM David Cameron had 11.

oops - there goes Ed's ammo.

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

Murdoch merch isn’t moving very well over at gag retailer Zazzle.com, either, which is currently selling an apron that reads “I’m Grilling the Murdochs” and a “News Corp. Hacked My Phone” shirt. “The items appeared fast and furious,” said vp of marketing Jason Kang. “However, Rupert Murdoch isn’t something that translates well into being a hot consumer item.” Why not? “When bin Laden got taken care of, people felt enormous pride,” Kang explained. “The Murdoch thing is funny, but doesn’t engender the same emotional response.”
http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/murdoch-merch-sales-disappointment-133625

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

Passed this on the bus today

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

lol piers morgan

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/news-out-to-ruin-me-nixon-20110727-1i0ek.html

Murdoch's papers destroyed the last two Victorial Police chiefs. One of them has finally found the guts to speak out about it.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

uh oh

tom_watson tom_watson
The hacking scandal is about nosedive to a whole new low. How could these people do what they did?
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Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

still conflicted that i'm enjoying this more than i'm appropriately outraged/depressed &c, but i await the revive anxiously

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not sure how much lower it could get but hey.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

No need to be ashamed about enjoying the skewering of scumbags (xp)

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

byameliahill Amelia Hill
ABOUT TO BREAK: You thought the phone hacking scandal couldn't get any more heinous? Think again... @bynickdavies and @byameliahill

the suspense is killing me!

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Never accept gifts from red-headed NI employees
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/28/phone-hacking-sarah-payne

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

slightly slept on tweet:

Here's the Prime Minister's letter confirming records indicate Neil Wallis did meet Andy Coulson at Downing St: http://twitpic.com/5x24ce

we'll see huh, re: how low it goes- i still think the hacking a sitting prime minister thing is the craziest shit

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

woooah

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

gonna bring out the word 'dastardly' here

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Think the Payne story was trailed as a rumour in Private Eye a while ago. Might have been somewhere online instead. Interesting it's broken now.

The cynicism of allegedly giving her a phone just so they could hack it is amazing.

HIS BODY IS FAT BECAUSE HE HAVE BIG HEART (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

i suppose it is significant that brooks gave it to sara payne personally, puts her closer to the scene of the crime.

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i think i'd heard it somewhere before. curious to see how brooks can possibly explicate the logic behind 'oh here have a phone?' beyond 'i guess it helps to have a phone?'

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Ohhhh shit.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

i still don't totally understand the logic behind endemic, automatic phonehacking, btw, outside of like, what-will-sienna-miller's-voicemail-reveal. like i can't think of examples of what they would be able to publish that was attained that way.

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

i feel a bit bad that i already assumed this had happened :/

SURELY brooks can't continue to deny her knowledge now

lex pretend, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

"I never knew the phone would be hacked" will be the line presumably, whether she can maintain that line is the question.

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

i think it's transparently not believable, though - she's basically relying on it being perceived as a coincidence; how about that?, i happened to give her something that would facilitate phone-hacking, right amid the period at which without my knowledge my newspaper was practicing such a thing

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Did Sara Payne just not have a mobile at that time? I suppose it's possible.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

thought this was in popbitch a few weeks ago, and so it proves, from july 8th:

>> Screwed <<
Noose tightens at News Int

With all the blagging, cash payments
and subterfuge involved, some of the
stories coming out at the moment make
phone hacking sound like it would be a
very complicated and expensive operation.
Well, imagine if NOTW execs were bright
enough to have found a simpler solution.

As the self-appointed scourge of paedos
and the promoters of Sarah's law, it was
only natural that the News Of The World
would be on hand to comfort the victims'
families in many of the most horrific
crimes of the last decade. And such was
their apparent determination to rid the
country of child sex offenders, it wouldn't
have seemed too weird if a senior NOTW
figure sympathetically handed over a
mobile phone at no expense to the victim -
so that they could all keep in touch. And
then, of course, there would be no problem
monitoring those phones, would there?
If the rumours going around News
International about who the person
handing out the phone was are anything
more substantial than chatter from
understandably bitter ex-employees then
we might see some action on this website
before too long: http://www.hasrebekahbrooksbeensackedyet.com/

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah someone on twitter just pointed that out. phew, thought i was imagining things when my first reaction was "b-b-but i already know that"

lex pretend, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

i still don't totally understand the logic behind endemic, automatic phonehacking, btw, outside of like, what-will-sienna-miller's-voicemail-reveal. like i can't think of examples of what they would be able to publish that was attained that way.

remember this was the early 00s, before email communication was as much the default as it is now. (when is the email hacking stuff gonna emerge?)

lex pretend, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Did Sara Payne just not have a mobile at that time? I suppose it's possible.

eh maybe so, but that the NOTW were the benevolent donors of one?, coincidental w/their phone hacking activities

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

remember this was the early 00s, before email communication was as much the default as it is now. (when is the email hacking stuff gonna emerge?)

yeah, the timescale throws me off slightly. but even still, i just - like i know the 9/11 thing is still alleged, but with that, for example: what are they getting that they can use? like in that circumstance it almost seems that it's a lazier alternative to reporting, rather than a more intrusive one – one that might give them some general colour & an idea of what’s going on. but wouldn't going any further and writing a story on it have been hugely risky?

jpeg 2000 (schlump), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

oh absolutely it's something that seems driven by laziness, so much is

lex pretend, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Guess they would also want to know which papers were in touch with her and how much they would offer for story.

HIS BODY IS FAT BECAUSE HE HAVE BIG HEART (ShariVari), Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

The thing that's surprised me is that The Sun hasn't been dragged into this yet.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Was it Private Eye who mentioned there being a hack at the NOTW who got all of his stories by phone hacking from the office, and was thus dubbed "The Olympic Flame" because he never went out?

MPx4A, Thursday, 28 July 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

xpost: I thought some an0nym0us haXX0rz were going to post like truckloads of Sun emails a couple of weeks ago?

StanM, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

jonsnowC4 Jon Snow
There's another hacking bombshell alleadgedly involvingt the Mirror breaking any minute..
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Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

Wau.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

My guess is that this was Piers-related and involves the build-up to Iraq in some way.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

what "shocking and awful" revelations will these be?

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

The Mirror deleted Al-Zawahiri's "just kidding about that planes and towers thing by the way" text message to Bin Laden to make room for more?

StanM, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

The Mirror hacked Saddam's phone and they know The Guardian bought Saddam's WMD's?

StanM, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

xpost: I thought some an0nym0us haXX0rz were going to post like truckloads of Sun emails a couple of weeks ago?

This got very muddy very quickly, and I haven't kept up - but there were postponements, then tweets claiming they didn't want to jeopardize a court case, and that they were working with media outlets to prepare the mails for publication.

But at this point I'm assuming that they claimed to have the mails for lulz.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

One of the lulzsec guys that was tweeting about the hacked emails got arrested yesterday too in Shetland.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Via the Telegraph:

17.17 The murmurs are that Chris Bryant MP, a scourge of News International, is going to have something big to say on phone hacking in the next little bit.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

did anyone see the program on ch4 last night ?
i never knew that re anne diamond and her meeting rupert and giving him an earful, only to end up on his (s)hitlist.

mark e, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Oh and apparently Brooks is muttering something now about being shocked by all this etc.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Rumour now is that Piers Morgan has been suspended by CNN?

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Can't find any hard confirmation anywhere though.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Hahah here's hoping.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

fake twitter account was the source of that.

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

grrr!

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

need the focus to remain on news int, other shite papers getting involved muddies the water

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

Piers Morgan has been suspended from America's Got Talent

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

More from Brooks:

"For the benefit of the campaign for Sarah's Law, the News of the World have provided Sara with a mobile telephone for the last 11 years. It was not a personal gift.

"The idea that anyone on the newspaper knew that Sara or the campaign team were targeted by Mr Mulcaire is unthinkable. The idea of her being targeted is beyond my comprehension. It is imperative for Sara and the other victims of crime that these allegations are investigated and those culpable brought to justice."

And we believe you...why?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

morgan suspension confirmed by jon snow?

i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

no, he's the reason the fake rumour got currency.

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

In the final edition of the NoW on 10 July, Ms Payne wrote a farewell column for the paper describing its staff as "my good and trusted friends".

Story rejected, way too far fetched.

What, it's reality? Hmm.

StanM, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.boomtron.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/game-of-thrones-hbo-jon-snow1.jpg

"Welcome to The Wall, Brother Piers."

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

"The idea that anyone on the newspaper knew that Sara or the campaign team were targeted by Mr Mulcaire is unthinkable. The idea of her being targeted is beyond my comprehension."

Something tells me she's going to eat those words

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

she doesnt deny it, just doesnt want to think about it

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

In the final edition of the NoW on 10 July, Ms Payne wrote a farewell column for the paper describing its staff as "my good and trusted friends".

Story rejected, way too far fetched.

What, it's reality? Hmm.

― StanM, Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:34 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark

private eye has a devastating little story about this. sara payne suffered a terrible stroke recently and is severely incapacitated. when she came into the office, lots of her actual good and trusted friends at the notw saw how ill she was and insisted they send her home. but sara said she couldn't go because "rebekah said she was calling in a favour".

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Statement from Payne family:

"Whilst it was previously confirmed by ‘Operation Weeting’ that Sara Payne’s name was not on Private Investigator ‘Glenn Mulcaire’ list, it has now been confirmed by the ‘Operation Weeting’ that Sara’s details are on his list.

"Sara is absolutely devastated by this news, we’re all deeply disappointed and are just working to get her through it.

"Sara will continue to work with the proper authorities regarding this matter, there will be a further statement in due course, but at this point in time, she (or we) can make no further comment."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

christopherhope Christopher Hope
#hacking There will be NO news on Mirror tonight, sources say. For clarity, the story is not a Telegraph one...
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^^ this dude said earlier it was going to be published at 5pm today. sounds like guido fawkes bollocks to me. he and the telegraph are desperate to get the mirror implicated, because they'd obv prefer it was bipartisan illegality. but they haven't got a treasure trove of info like the mulcaire files, so even though the mirror almost certainly hacked phones, they can't land a blow.

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Jesus.

"It was not a personal gift."

This is not made better by the fact it was for business.

"The idea that anyone on the newspaper knew that Sara or the campaign team were targeted by Mr Mulcaire is unthinkable."

Why is it unthinkable? He's been convicted for doing similar.

"The idea of her being targeted is beyond my comprehension."

"I am lying through my teeth and appear to have learnt fuck-all during the past month."

James Mitchell, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch received a ringing endorsement from directors of satellite group BSkyB earlier today just as the phone hacking scandal reached a new low with details that Sara Payne, the mother of murdered schoolgirl Sarah, had been a victim of the News of the World. A lengthy board meeting at BSkyB ended with unanimous support for Rupert Murdoch's youngest son to continue as chairman of the group following the collapse of his family firm's bid for the 61% of the satellite business it did not already own.
James Murdoch could soon earn a cash bonus of up to $12m (£7.3m) from News Corporation on top of his $3m salary even though the part of the company he has run has been mired in the phone-hacking scandal, shut one of its flagship British newspapers and been forced to abandon the bid for BSkyB in the wake of cross-party hostility in the UK.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

nearly half the non-exec directors of bskyb are current or former employees or murdoch businesses. add the votes of the CEO and CFO and the murdoch payroll has a majority. not sure this is "good corporate governance".

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

*of murdoch businesses.

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

i was going to do a poll of the news corp directors

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

^^ this dude said earlier it was going to be published at 5pm today. sounds like guido fawkes bollocks to me. he and the telegraph are desperate to get the mirror implicated, because they'd obv prefer it was bipartisan illegality.

― joe, Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tbf to the telegraph, they did far more of the running on the NOTW/NI story than the mirror (or the bbc or anyone except the guardian and the nyt for that matter), and pretty much all of them hate NI far more than they care about any political party.

caek, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it's a few of their loony bloggers i've got in mind tbh. when's your bro going to pull his finger out and publish his big terrorhack story though?

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

fairly diverting michael howard on newsnight/kafka style bullshit on vetting:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/27/andy-coulson-guardian-questions

interesting speculating on whether at some point this will pay off but it's quite amusing to see it pursued & ignored meanwhile

schlump, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Sophy Ridge posting about tears in the office following the closure today of The Sun's Buzz magazine. Fuck them. I'm sure they're all getting jobs on the Sunday Sun soon, anyway.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

or siberia

joe, Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Uf1zb.jpg

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

Well, he's at least working on his Mr Burns imitation

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

Where was Murdoch fils raised?

publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

someone should shop like a child's head or half a puppy into his burns-esque grasp, above

schlump, Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch went to Horace Mann iirc.

murdoch most foul (suzy), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

lachlan looks like a remedial thug from some australian backwater

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

Well his dad's from Adelaide so

½ Louise Mensch (Schlafsack), Thursday, 28 July 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Murdoch sr was Burns & jr was Smithers

badg, Friday, 29 July 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

isn't Lachlan technically Jr? Would James be "Minor"? how does this work?

naked hdsl (sic), Friday, 29 July 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

Technically would only be a Jr if named Rupert like their pappy

badg, Friday, 29 July 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_(name)#Generational_titles

badg, Friday, 29 July 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

i hope people realise that every time people compare these deathbots to loveable plutocrat Monty Burns they are a) unnecessarily humanising them and b) wanking up a dead elm

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

Actually I did know that, duh. Major and Minor are elder and younger bros though rite? If there's a third, is he Minimus?

naked hdsl (sic), Friday, 29 July 2011 07:27 (twelve years ago) link

Louise Mensch (left) is the Tory MP who accused CNN talk show host Piers Morgan of admitting to phone hacking during his time as editor of the Daily Mirror in his autobiography during last week's culture committee hearings. He furiously denied this and the relevant passages of the book do not back her up.

Now Mensch – who writes chick-lit novels under her maiden name Louise Bagshawe – has been accused of relatively minor incidents of impropriety during her years working for EMI in the 1990s, and has hit back by publishing both the allegations and her own responses and denials.

A self-described investigative journalist called David Jones accused Mensch of the following:

• Taking drugs in the company of violinist Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham "including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk, with Mr Kennedy, in front of journalists".

• Writing a novel "of a sexual nature" on her EMI work computer during working hours, leading to EMI terminating her employment.

• In the resulting novel, basing a character on her line manager Roger Lewis, and making "derogatory references" to this character.

Mensch sent out the following replies:

1. Although I do not remember the specific incident, this sounds highly probable. I thoroughly enjoyed working with Nigel Kennedy, whom I remember with affection. Additionally, since I was in my twenties, I'm sure it was not the only incident of the kind; we all do idiotic things when young. I am not a very good dancer and must apologise to any and all journalists who were forced to watch me dance that night at Ronnie Scott's.

2. Writing the first few chapters of Career Girls on my EMI computer is quite correct. However, it was all done after work hours. It was also not why I was fired by EMI. "Leaving work early" and "missing the odd day at work" along with "inappropriate dress" were the reasons quoted to me.

3. Career Girls was my first novel. I used the names of many real people I knew for minor characters, such as journalists, chauffeurs, bankers, and so forth. Roger Lewis was probably amongst them, as were (off the top of my head) Therese Coffey MP, now my colleague on the Select Committee, Jeremy Quin, Damian Hinds MP, Maurice Oberstein, Rod Clayton, James Robertson, and many more. None of them have ever complained about my using their names in this way.

She adds: "Most importantly, I have not the slightest intention of being deterred from asking how far the culture of hacking and blagging extended in Fleet Street."

Mensch embarrassed herself with her accusations against Morgan at the culture committee hearings, which were not correct, and which she would not repeat outside parliament, where she has immunity from libel law. But in my opinion she has reacted straightforwardly and admirably to this attempt to drag her name into the mud via these minor allegations. The only one of any degree of seriousness is the accusation and admission of taking drugs, although since many much more senior politicians than Mensch have admitted various kinds of drug taking in recent years this is unlikely to make any waves. And the mentions of dancing, writing a novel "of a sexual nature" during work time and making derogatory references about a character based on someone she once worked with are so irrelevant they are laughable.

This is an excellent level of superfluous background detail for those of us who haven't really been following the Mensch subplot.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Well done the Guardian.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

Not the Peter Sellers and Anthony Burgess biographer Roger Lewis shurely?

"i mean, something historical would have been fine, louise - but this novel is of a sexual nature"

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

if there was chick lit of a sexual nature i'd be reading more of it

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

I honestly don't think they could fit many more nudge-nudge-wink-wink phrases in there if they tried.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

anybody who's been to ronnie scott's with nigel kennedy has probly suffered enough

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Well done on the hypocrisy front, The Guardian, for continuing to flog Bagshawe with that "OMG, writes chick lit" snideness in the news section, while expressly spelling out exactly how sexist and demeaning that label actually is buried away in the gender section, three drill-down clicks down in the "life and style" section. Yeah, you're damn right that sticks in the throat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jul/21/sneering-chick-lit-female-authors if I mucked up the tags on that link.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

totally agree but don't a bunch of these authors play the game a fair bit?

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

and it's right to say that there's been some fucking horrible hornby-esque "lad lit" or "sensitive can't write for shit doe-eyed geezer" lit that targets its own set of stereotypes. sure don't get snobby about genre fiction but please nobody try and pull a "shopaholic writer is the 21st century jane austen" puhleese?

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Will be interesting to see who the investigator turns out to have been working for. It's clearly going to backfire hugely, if it can be linked to any of the participants in the hacking affair directly.

I'm amazed at the leniency of the fines they've received in the Christopher Jeffries case. I would have liked to see a couple of people doing jail time for that as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/29/sun-daily-mirror-guilty-contempt

HIS BODY IS FAT BECAUSE HE HAVE BIG HEART (ShariVari), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Career Girls (1995)
The Movie (1996)
Tall Poppies (1997)
Venus Envy (1998)
A Kept Woman (2000)
When She Was Bad... (2001)
The Devil You Know (2003)
Monday's Child (2004)
Tuesday's Child (2005)
Sparkles (2006)
Glamour (2007)
Glitz (2008)
Passion (2009)
Desire (2010)
Destiny (2011)

In fairness looking at these titles I'm not exactly expecting Virginia Woolf here.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Monday's Child (2004)
Tuesday's Child (2005)

well?

StanM, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Actually the last six were the names of her children.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Shallow writing is shallow writing whether it's "Career Girls" or "Spies and Guns Shoot Em Up" but it is completely sexist to imply, as that "chick lit" label does, that it's the gender of the writer and *perceived* consumers that inherently causes the shallow.

But whatever. This is not the thread.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

It's more the fact that even despite writers IN THEIR OWN NEWSPAPER pointing out that actually, this is kind of a sexist term, they just go on sniding about it. Really fucking hate that about the Guardian. Just bury "womens concerns" like, you know, gender and sexism down there in Life and Style, under the shoes and sherbet receipes, where no one ever has to, you know, pay attention to it. Like "chick lit".

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

shd start a spin-off?

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

and y'know, consistency and no middlebrow snob bullshit in the Graun? come on

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, the vast majority of novels these days are marketing primarily at women, we're talking about more than "novels by female writers marketed at women" otherwise we'd be writing off Lorrie Moore or Isabel Allende or whoever as chick-lit.

I am suddenly sad that Andy McNabb has not yet pursued a career as a Tory MP though.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

no i do think there's something in the "fact?" (in my head) that no chick lit author will ever be given the critical respect that some of the guns and spys and boys own adventure authors are given by the broadsheets

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk

:D

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Are boys own adventure types treated more seriously when they try to enter the political sphere? Jeffrey Archer and Ken Follett would suggest that they're not, though that doesn't stop the underlying point from being valid. xp

HIS BODY IS FAT BECAUSE HE HAVE BIG HEART (ShariVari), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

if i was her i'd be embarrassed that my life was so squeaky clean that "dancing on a dance floor" is apparently one of the three most scandalous events in my life

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

A self-described investigative journalist called David Jones

haha this is great

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that's true although I tend to think that most Sunday Times or Telegraph readers/cultural journalists are basically Mark Corrigan and therefore not to be trusted.

I think "dancing on a dance floor" is lacking the implied "having taken a big bag of cocaine".

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

"Leaving work early" and "missing the odd day at work" along with "inappropriate dress" were the reasons quoted to me.

i think this is the best bit of her responses, anyhow

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^^People get fired from record companies for any of these reasons? News to me, frankly...

murdoch most foul (suzy), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

I think she's implying these were spurious excuses given for her sacking?

Mensch and Watson are showing every sign of loving every single minute of this anyway. Can't blame them.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

Sparkles (2006)
Glamour (2007)
Glitz (2008)

imagining marih carey pitching a hissy fit on the publication of each of these. "that was gonna be MY next album title"

lex pretend, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm assuming the Weekday's Child series was discontinued on the advice of Will Young's lawyers.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I'm honestly interested in picking up one of those titles based on her conduct the last month.

abcfsk, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

A self-described investigative journalist called David Jones accused Mensch of ... taking drugs in the company of violinist Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham "including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk, with Mr Kennedy, in front of journalists".

That 'including....' part is very strangely worded. It makes it sound as if 'dancing on....etc, etc.... journalists' is a type of drug which she took. Even ignoring that, it makes it sound like being drunk is an example of the drugs she took. And even if it was worded correctly, accusing someone of dancing (on a dancefloor!) (while drunk!!) seems incredibly lame.

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

assume "drunk" was a cop-out meaning "ripped to the tits on Bolivian disco talc"

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah come on this is NIGEL KENNEDY we're talking about.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

can't imagine how many hallucinogens you'd have to neck to find him tolerable company

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Oh come on this is a TORY MP we're talking about.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

i mean maybe he is a secret massive Varèse enthusiast but i'm thinking no

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

she's a quite hot Tory MP tbf and in these circumstances the Tory MP bit sort of adds to the hotness for some of us pervs

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it was during her Labour year.

abcfsk, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

nigel kennedy a legendary caner, TRUFACT

i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

True. Thinking this would be in The Brix Smth Years as well...

murdoch most foul (suzy), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

After leaving The Fall and disbanding The Adult Net, Brix... became romantically-involved with violinist Nigel Kennedy, and they collaborated on a cover of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" which was released as a single in 1993

Boy do I wish that was on youtube.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

that raises a lot of questions about the guardian

conrad, Sunday, 31 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/02/phone-hacking-scandal-new-arrest

^ here we go again

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:42 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch please.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

Stuart Kuttner apparently, former managing editor

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

xxp amelia hill has just added on twitter that it's believed to be stuart kuttner, former managing editor.

Kuttner has been for over 20 years the whip-cracking schemer who always knew how to get what he wanted for the paper, who knew every trick in persuading hacks to misbehave, chiselling informers out of promised fees, covering up for the illegal activities of journalists and editors.

It was he who, with cold calculation, duped former Private Investigator, Glenn Mulcaire into taking extra payments in cash, direct from the royal editor, Clive Goodman for royal stories harvested by hacking into Prince Harry and Prince William’s voicemails. That way, when Mulcaire was caught, as he was absolutely bound to be, Kuttner and then editor Andy Couslon could claim they knew nothing about it.

http://www.peterburden.net/archives/233

joe, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

BBC saying it's a 70-year old man - does that fit?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

yeah

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:51 (twelve years ago) link

can imagine an awesome OJ/glove courtroom scene in which he proves he is unable to even call his daughter using a mobile phone

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:53 (twelve years ago) link

kuttner played a bit part in the paper's famous harry potter/september 11 tapes. reporter charles begley tells him why he's been signed off work with stress:

CB: There were a couple of events which brought things to a head. A few hours after the attack on the World Trade Centre, I was asked by Rebekah to dress up as Harry Potter. She wanted me to dress up and go to her office in the middle of the newsroom.

SK: Which date was that?

CB: That was on Tuesday, September 11.

joe, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

I feel bad for laughing at that.

online pinata store (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

Six weeks for the pie guy wtf:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/02/protester-jailed-throwing-pie-murdoch

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

not long enough

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

throw away the key tbh

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

i actually get more annoyed thinking about him than thinking about rebekah brooks or andy coulson

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

Throw away the key lime pie more like. I dunno, it's a bit ott. Hefty fine and some sort of social penalty maybe, but using public money to bang him up is just silly beggars imo.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

he's a comedian, even prior to the pie i'd have advocated the death penalty

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

wait waht

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

you missed the "lex hates comedy" conversation?

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

he's potentially fucked public access to parliamentary inquiries, he shd be given a medal for his contribution to radical politics self-publicism by halfwit rag society cunts

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

don't think anybody's attitude to comedy impinges on Johnny No-laughs

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

You don't understand, this guy is being martyred in the name of pie-throwing.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

It was a terrible thing he did, but I feel like I want to send him a hollowed-out cake with a whole new cake hidden inside.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

Without him we'd never have seen Wendy Deng Prize Fighter so you know every lame cloud...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/UgiKW.png

James Mitchell, Thursday, 4 August 2011 06:03 (twelve years ago) link

I like how 'breach of law' is the base, but 'discourteous' is the real offence.

Gukbe, Thursday, 4 August 2011 07:23 (twelve years ago) link

Welcome to Britain.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 August 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

Sock it to 'im, Tommy boy

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 August 2011 08:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, very rude of him to interrupt Mr Cameron's fourth holiday in five months or whatever it is.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 4 August 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/08/another_british_journalist_adm.html

not really 'surprising' or dismaying - like presumably it is a sorta textbook investigative journalism case? - but i guess this could be a thing

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Friday, 5 August 2011 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

No one is innocent, earth revolves around sun, let's evolve.

Well into the depressing stage of this saga now...

Matt DC, Friday, 5 August 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

ny mag is overstating it a bit to say that drawing a distinction between a corrupt arms dealer and a murdered schoolgirl is a "nuanced moral argument".

joe, Friday, 5 August 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah it's not nuanced at all. I think most people feel pretty uncomplicated about it. We don't mind if journalists break the law in the service of speaking truth to power, but we do mind if they break the law to get sensationalist stories about regular people. Pretty simple, dudes.

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 August 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

[Ed: You need 350 more words, keep going]

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 August 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

We don't mind if journalists break the law in the service of speaking truth to power, but we do mind if they break the law to get sensationalist stories about regular people.

Unanalysed impression is that what "we" mind about doesn't impact on newspaper sales except Liverpool obv.

No one is innocent, earth revolves around sun, let's evolve.

#notagoodstory tbh

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 August 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

i was thinking the other day how entirely appropriate it'd be if heather mills ended up playing a significant role in bringing down piers morgan

lex pretend, Saturday, 6 August 2011 07:08 (twelve years ago) link

He may also hope and pray that no one who attended it still remembers a lunch held in September 2002 in a private room at the swanky new Four Seasons Hotel in Canary Wharf, just by the offices of the Daily Mirror. The occasion was one of the monthly bunfights hosted for Moron by convivial Trinity Mirror chairman Sir Victor Blank. The dozen or so guests at this one included Ulrika Jonsson, Jeremy Paxman and the then chief executive of BT, Ben Verwaayen.

Moron’s feeble attempts to master a Scandinavian accent in front of Jonsson – he was trying to wind her up by mimicking conversations with Eriksson – were received with embarrassed titters. Then he started to hector Verwaayen, roaring that BT “should start providing better security for pin numbers for mobile phones! You should tell your customers to go and change them!”

At which point one might have expected the Trinity Mirror chairman to ask how his editor seemed to know the intimate details of Jonsson and Eriksson’s phone calls. But nothing was heard from the man who had so famously protected Moron in the “City Slickers” scandal, ignoring chief executive Philip Graf’s pleas to have him fired.

Having mocked Ulrika and hectored Verwaayen, Moron then launched into his party piece – a re-enactment of Heather Mills arguing on the phone with Paul McCartney and the ex-Beatle winning her round by singing “We Can Work it Out”.

Via Private Eye.

If there's any truth in this, he was essentially admitting it to anyone who would listen - which is just the kind of daft, hubristic thing you can imagine him doing. It has to just be a matter of time before CNN suspends him.

HIS BODY IS FAT BECAUSE HE HAVE BIG HEART (ShariVari), Saturday, 6 August 2011 07:15 (twelve years ago) link

Rebekah Brooks will not comment on claims she is still drawing a News International salary.

A big song and dance was made of Rebekah Brooks’s belated decision to resign as the chief executive of News International as the phone-hacking scandal engulfed Rupert Murdoch’s empire, but it has not had any great effect upon her standard of living. I am reliably informed that she remains on the company payroll.

“My understanding is that Rupert has told her to travel the world on him for a year and then he will find a job for her when the scandal has died down,” whispers my informant.

When I call News International to inquire if Brooks is still on the payroll, they refer me to her personal publicist at Bell Pottinger. “We’re offering no comment on your query regarding Rebekah,” Steve Double tells me, helpfully.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 6 August 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

October will be entertaining, then.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 August 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Have they rebuilt Tyburn for these people yet? If nothing else, just to give 'em a little nudge?

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Saturday, 6 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

her personal publicist at Bell Pottinger. “We’re offering no comment on your query regarding Rebekah,” Steve Double tells me, helpfully.

the NME photographer?

generous loller at dollies (sic), Sunday, 7 August 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

Miskiw arrested

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Also via reports on Twitter: "Police communications chief Dick Ferdocio on leave pending investigation re hacking/NI"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Colin Myler and Tom Crone likely to be recalled to Commons media select committee in September, chair John Whittingdale says.

^^^ bombshell

caek, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

So a summary so far: The select committee says the fresh evidence they have received in relation to the News of the World phone-hacking scandal is "devastating" and that James Murdoch is "likely" to be recalled for a second grilling.

The former editor of the Sunday tabloid, Colin Myler, and the paper's head of the legal affairs have provided more evidence to support their allegations that Murdoch 'misled' the committee about his knowledge of phone-hacking at the News of the World.

But Watson has hinted at explosive new evidence from the former royal editor Clive Goodman, who was jailed back in 2007 in relation to phone-hacking offences.

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

tweetsplosion of hints that the guardian will be dropping a "bombshell" around 1pm..

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link

12.02pm: tom_watson has just tweeted this:
Documents submitted to DCMS select committee will be published at 12.59pm. On dcms web site. Lobby- I'll be in grimond room at 1pm.

cloud computing, robotics, 3G wireless connectivity, Skype, (history mayne), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I don't think anything we've heard so far today qualifies as a "bombshell".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

SO FARRRRRRRRRRRRR

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

apart from the milly dowler news it's mostly been a steady accumulation rather than bombshells. what a weird summer.

cloud computing, robotics, 3G wireless connectivity, Skype, (history mayne), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:35 (twelve years ago) link

heard a little something about how the 'bombshell' relates to JM, and how his alibi doesn't hold up, because he's a vampire, and b/c vampires can't be out doing business during business hours

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oooh, I'm like a little child contemplating his first Christmas

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

I think the Sara Payne & 7/7 families and war dead families all count as bombshells - it's just that by then they were all seen as shockwaves from the main event.

McCanns as well iirc?

xxxp

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think I'm going to be consistently disappointed until the point at which something of substance incrimiates Cameron, if that ever happens. Murdoch Jr will do for now though.

Don't think any concrete McCann revelations have come out yet?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

won't today's thing be just a specific regarding myles showing the evidence to JM? like not that it's not a bombshell! but that it's something that we can presumably predict? like i got the impression that this is re: the committee appearances rather than the larger scandal

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:41 (twelve years ago) link

Disgraced NoW correspondent said hacking was done with 'the full knowledge and support' of senior journalists

max, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

there it is

caek, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert Murdoch, James Murdoch and their former editor Andy Coulson all face embarrassing new allegations of dishonesty and cover-up after the publication of an explosive letter written by the News of the World's disgraced royal correspondent, Clive Goodman.

In the letter, which was written four years ago but published only on Tuesday, Goodman claims that phone hacking was "widely discussed" at editorial meetings at the paper until Coulson himself banned further references to it; that Coulson offered to let him keep his job if he agreed not to implicate the paper in hacking when he came to court; and that his own hacking was carried out with "the full knowledge and support" of other senior journalists, whom he named.

The claims are acutely troubling for the prime minister, David Cameron, who hired Coulson as his media adviser on the basis that he knew nothing about phone hacking. And they confront Rupert and James Murdoch with the humiliating prospect of being recalled to parliament to justify the evidence which they gave last month on the aftermath of Goodman's allegations. In a separate letter, one of the Murdochs' own law firms claim that parts of that evidence were variously "hard to credit", "self-serving" and "inaccurate and misleading".

max, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

Two versions of Goodman's letter were provided to the committee. One which was supplied by Harbottle and Lewis has been redacted to remove the names of journalists, at the request of police. The other, which was supplied by News International, has been redacted to remove not only the names but also all references to hacking being discussed in Coulson's editorial meetings and to Coulson's offer to keep Goodman on staff if he agreed not to implicate the paper.

nice try

joe, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

loool

caek, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

murdoch jr's strategy of dumping on the lawyers in his select committee appearance is starting to look like a big mistake.

joe, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

shafted by their own law firm :-)

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

not bad bombshellwise, in my opinion: it doesn't go further outwards, of course, it exactly re-targets the flimsily stabilised line the defendants were hoping to stage their defence at

well done especially on this letter being four years old

and haha "hard to credit"

mark s, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link

Someone really needs to do an animated gif of that clip of Kilroy-Silk from "Shafted"

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:52 (twelve years ago) link

not bad bombshellwise, in my opinion: it doesn't go further outwards, of course, it exactly re-targets the flimsily stabilised line the defendants were hoping to stage their defence at

Les Hinton, who was sent a copy of the letter but failed to pass it to police and who then led a cast of senior Murdoch personnel in telling parliament that they believed Andy Coulson knew nothing about the interception of the voicemail of public figures and that Goodman was the only journalist involved.

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

redacting documents seems such a weird practice. you feel like in a hundred years time it could be looked back on as a hilarious hallmark of old-style corruption, that survived by virtue of its impressive name & by being done w/the imprimatur of huge companies or agencies. it so often seems to be just agenda-furthering scribbling.

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link

sheer criminality

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

think we can all agree on rubber bullets for these guys

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

send them to a desert island with the records they pretended to like

mark s, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link

Take away their tax benefits.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

kick wendi deng out of her council house

mark s, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

mindless, just mindless. Send in the army, it's the only language these people understand.

Neil S, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

sheer criminality

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:22 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

I lol'd

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:41 (twelve years ago) link

They ought to be conscripted into National Fat Cat Service.

Fat Cats get enough Service as it is!

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

national lol cat disservice more like

mark s, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

and with that "bombshell" i must return to writing this review!

mark s, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

i can has incriminating documents redacted?

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

is this the general uk politics thread now? this has probably been linked on ten different threads today but it's worth posting here in case some of you missed it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

jed_, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

cheers, Matt.

jed_, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

i got confused with the UK season finale having so many false endings.

jed_, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

My farmer colleague (imagine a Doctor Who obsessive who resembles John Peel) LOVES the whole 'UK end of season finale' as a concept.

robin hoodie (suzy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

doesnt surprise me, farmers love tv

max, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

loooool

caek, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

IPCC clears Sir Paul Stephenson and three other senior Met officers of misconduct relating to hacking
Must have been a tough decision.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

The IPCC is very "efficient" when it needs to be, isn't it? Amazing.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

They've moved from "innocent even if you are filmed lumping a bystander and booting him to the ground" to "only if you are filmed lumping a bystander and booting him to the ground" in recent years.

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

missed a 'guilty' out but you know.

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

Two versions of Goodman's letter were provided to the committee. One which was supplied by Harbottle and Lewis has been redacted to remove the names of journalists, at the request of police. The other, which was supplied by News International, has been redacted to remove not only the names but also all references to hacking being discussed in Coulson's editorial meetings and to Coulson's offer to keep Goodman on staff if he agreed not to implicate the paper.

nice try

― joe, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha this was one of the redactions.

The decision is inconsistent. because [ redacted ] and other members of staff were carrying out the same illegal procedures…. This practice was widely discussed in the daily editorial conference, until explicit reference to it was banned by the Editor. As far as I am aware, no other member of staff has faced disciplinary action, much less dismissal.

caek, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Phone hacking: Reports of James Desborough arrest

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

51yo detective arrested on suspicion of leaking to the guardian.

weird. i mean it was obvious they had police sources, but i don't see how that's an arrestable offence unless they were bribed, which the guardian can't afford even if it wanted to. this seems to make being a journalistic source an offence. #chillingeffect

joe, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

possibly a contempt of court issue

caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

i'd be surprised, it seems to be about the names of hacking arrestees, which would come out before any court case anyway - they can't prejudice the trial. maybe the cop didn't have direct knowledge of the arrests and improperly accessed the police database? idk, but it goes to show why this stuff was never touched by papers in the first place, the line between a reporter's "ratlike cunning" and "criminal conspiracy" is a bit fine in some instances.

joe, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

what's the charge?

caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

duh, ignore me. arrested, not charged.

caek, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

just checked, press gazette explains it's for "misconduct in a public office". sounds like doing it for a leaking prosecution is somewhat overzealous. CPS guidelines say:

The culpability '... must be of such a degree that the misconduct impugned is calculated to injure the public interest so as to call for condemnation and punishment' (R v Dytham 1979 QB 722).

The fact that a public officer has acted in a way that is in breach of his or her duties, or which might expose him/her to disciplinary proceedings, is not in itself enough to constitute the offence.

Examples of behaviour that have in the past fallen within the offence include:

wilful excesses of official authority;
'malicious' exercises of official authority;
wilful neglect of a public duty;
intentional infliction of bodily harm, imprisonment, or other injury upon a person;
frauds and deceits.

joe, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

i reckon that either sue akers has gone a bit bonkers in her aim to be whiter-than-white or there's a bit of pressure from somewhere to advance the narrative that "they're all at it" and diffuse the blame and outrage.

joe, Friday, 19 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

taking money to reveal information that ought to be private has been a criminal offence for >100 years for some stupid reason

Looking for Mrs Nutbar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 August 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

that's why everyone gets up in arms when you post 77 posts on the excelsior thread

kinder, Friday, 19 August 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

xp but there's no suggestion the cop was paid, all the bribery arrests have been under the prevention of corruption act not misconduct in a public office.

joe, Saturday, 20 August 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, the CPS decided that the guy who assaulted ian tomlinson didn't meet the threshold for misconduct in a public office so

joe, Saturday, 20 August 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link

So apparently Coulson was still receiving payments from News Int even after he started working for Cameron. Lots of "call me cynical but..." type comments on twitter about how convenient for Peston's NI buds that he put this out tonight when everyone's preoccupied with Libya

sktsh, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

er "how convenient it is", that should be.

sktsh, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

i was just thinking about the vetting thing; did that ever go anywhere? the last time i was tuned in it was those letters rebounding between the g & #10, repeatedly asking questions about who knew what. i don't know whether it somehow proved a dead end or is just in limbo. it def seemed strange that he wasn't vetted to the level of the guy he succeeded, or his successor, but doubly so considering that he was a guy whom there were allegations about previously

sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

Conservative party sources insisted on Monday night they had no knowledge of any News International payments made to Coulson, after checks were made with every senior party official who might have been involved in hiring him in 2007.
Turning up to work every day in a company car might have been a massive fucking clue.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

it's weird that the vetting process didn't pick up on... oh

8========3 to the end of time (history mayne), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

i was just thinking about the vetting thing; did that ever go anywhere? the last time i was tuned in it was those letters rebounding between the g & #10, repeatedly asking questions about who knew what. i don't know whether it somehow proved a dead end or is just in limbo.

Think this government is using the time honoured tactic of not answering questions. Once again, where are you Liberal fucking Democrats? I'm sure it did happen under New Labour (they employed Alastair Campbell after all), but it seems like these days I'm constantly hearing broadcasters saying, "We asked the government to respond, but no-one was available."

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah but, for the duration that the story was developing the guardian seemed to make real, incremental progress, with the crowdsourcing of vetted staff done through the blog & everything else. and i know there were editorials contrasting it with cameron's commitment to transparency. it's just frustrating that being walled off seems to have frozen the actual story. through this, at least, the guardian have been the most valuable 'opposition' in the place of an opposition party or coalition partner

sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

Riots + Libya + what have you. Hasn't gone away though.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting that Robert Peston broke this story. A deliberate attempt to break away from the "Chipping Norton set", perhaps?

Neil S, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

if you want an example of LOTS HAPPENS nothing seems to happen LOTS HAPPENS then libya should cheer you up: things don't need to be in the papers to be happening

i would actually be glad of a rest, a week without news please

mark s, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 09:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Good evening. Today is Good Friday. There is no news.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

I came to meet him on the day of his release from Wandsworth Prison,

But why, Laurie? Why?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

what did you do in the revolution, daddy?

I just turned up, and suddenly I'm running through the woods being chased by horses, trying to improvise consensus decision-making with people I'd never met before.

joe, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

Before that, Come Dine With Me is what we were mainly watching. Endless, endless episodes of Come Dine With Me.

don't remember that bit in Bronson

Once Were Moderators (DG), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Your real name is Jonathan May-Bowles. Are you secretly posh?

Cutting edge stuff this

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

RIP print journalism

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

Multiple xp's:

Interesting that Robert Peston broke this story. A deliberate attempt to break away from the "Chipping Norton set", perhaps?

Could be, but I guess the counterargument to that might be that they knew it was going to come out eventually, so they might as well put it out in a controlled-ish way, at the most politically expedient time (i.e. when, as Tom D says upthread, everyone's too busy with riots + libya, and perhaps also a bit of hackgate-fatigue has set in).

sktsh, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

former colleague of stuart kuttner, NOTW managing editor, dishes the dirt:

A greasy yob who wore handmade Lobb shoes, Kuttner’s main aim in life was to expose MPs in their liaisons with rent boys and call girls.

His Pandora’s box of bugging devices was legendary. As was his habit of parading in drag as a prostitute on the streets of Mayfair’s Shepherd Market, supposedly on undercover missions to spot unwary pillars of society at play. A staff photographer covering a story about prostitution thought he’d found a beauty lurking in a doorway and snapped off a few frames. “It’s me you fool!” hissed an enraged Kuttner.

the whole thing is worth a read:

http://www.noseweek.co.za/article/2580/Out-on-a-limb

joe, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

There's a new mea culpa culture at the Financial Times. Weeks after the newspaper printed the word "Murdock" on a front-page sub headline about the News Corp boss's appearance at the media select committee, the repercussions at the pink'un go on. Martin Dickson, the deputy editor, who was in charge on the fateful night, summoned the page one editor into his office and gave him a first official warning for not spotting the typo that appeared in the first edition. When the production editor heard about the bollocking, he told Dickson that he was also to blame – so he got a written warning too. News then reached the hapless sub editor who actually wrote the word, so he went to see Dickson – and got an official warning as well. If the guy who sells the first editions outside Waterloo station wants to pop into the FT offices … you can probably guess the rest.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2011/aug/30/mea-culpa-culture-at-ft

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

Removed: Financial Times article

guardian.co.uk, Thursday 1 September 2011 12.37 BST
Article history

This article was taken down on 1 September 2011 pending investigation.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

waht

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link

Not entirely sure why, though.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

idgi, isn't "murdock" a headline pun?

caek, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

My first thoughts.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

lol the guardian

caek, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

nah, the guardian is wrong, the headline typo didn't appear on the day of the select committee so the "dock" pun doesn't work. also, it's the FT.

http://twicsy.com/i/p9tZJ

joe, Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

But the important aspect of the story is not that another person’s phone was hacked, but that the “News of the World” were able to obtain the mobile telephone number of an individual who had been given a “secret identity” – known only to a very small number of people – to protect him.

In 2001 the High Court had granted a wide ranging injunction to prevent the identification of the two individual who had been convicted of the murder of James Bulger ([2001] EWHC 32 (QB)). This was granted because of the “clear and credible” risk to their lives from mob vengeance or revenge attacks. It was accepted that if Robert Thompson’s identity had become public knowledge, the exposure could potentially have put his life at risk. We have previously posted the terms of this injunction. It appears that anyone seeking to obtain Robert Thompson’s mobile number would have been in breach of it.

The question is: how did the “News of the World” obtain the mobile telephone number of an individual who had been given a “secret identity”? One obvious possible source is the police. Serious questions have already been raised about the leaking of information by corrupt police officers to the “News of the World”. Scotland Yard’s “Operation Elveden” is now investigating allegations of corrupt payments to police officers. It seems likely that this investigation will now be considering how the “News of the World” was able to find Robert Thompson’s number and then hack his telephone in order to run stories which, potentially, put him in danger.

http://inforrm.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/news-phone-hacking-of-bulger-killer-raises-further-questions-about-the-police-and-the-news-of-the-world/

James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

Rupert Murdoch's daughter needs all the spiritual guidance she can get!

Mark G, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

Every time I think I've got a handle on the different parts cynicism to pure self-delusion in Tony Blair something like this comes out.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

NI is flogging the wapping site

Once Were Moderators (DG), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

hope it's in public

Frogbs (Pray Like Aretha Franklin (in Whiteface)) (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

The old offices, not the new ones.

James Mitchell, Monday, 5 September 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3315998.htm

THREAD DELIVERS.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 10:30 (twelve years ago) link

NATALIE ROWE: I mean it's been said in the newspapers that he was at university. He wasn't. At the time he was working for William Hague. I remember that vividly because he called William Hague insipid and I didn't know what the word meant. I do now.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

ahahahaha

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

we all do now

and my soul said you can't go there (schlump), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

it's kind of impressive, how little people care about sleaze any more. is there anything that could actually threaten that little shit's job security?

civilisation and its discotheques (c sharp major), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

lol at Guido framing the story in exactly the same way as the NotW did originally - http://order-order.com/2011/09/12/50318/

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 September 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that is tremendous.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

The nut:

"But if you look at it because there was a nice gloss put on the story and an editorial that effectively gave George Osborne the benefit of the doubt then you could say well, George Osborne was almost indebted to Andy Coulson.

"Andy Coulson had done George Osborne a favour and perhaps it was time for George Osborne to reciprocate and do a favour back."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

This story doesn't need 'phone hacking' as an element:

1) Girl tells/sells story to DMirror.
2) Said paper contacts Tory offices regarding story, to make sure it's not totally libellous.
3) GOsb 'confesses' situation to the 'powers-that-be'
4) Powers-that-be say "Don't worry about it, we're on the case"
5) They contact NOTW to draft a safety curtain with as much detail to spike the original slant, and enough editorialising to totally discredit the story's original source.

Same old.

Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

is she saying s.thing new and potentially actionable* that has scared off the uk papers or?

*as they say though, he's never sued anyone over her claims before

xpost

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

2-5 is total speculation, right?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/images/373908.jpg
Think there should be a "Photoshop this image of George Osborne onto other pictures" thread.

Stevie T, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

need higher res

conrad, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

Or get Private Eye to run it on their letters page every week.

Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

2-5 is total speculation, right?

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:04 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yes, officer. Mods, please add "allegedly" to every line.

Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

I have a friend who knows the ppl of posh world. Years ago she passed along a story abt how the Cam/Osb crowd were friends with a dominatrix. A detail I haven't seen brought up elsewhere is that her pals would occasionally pop in and shit on the chest of clients who liked that sort of thing.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

Think there should be a "Photoshop this image of George Osborne onto other pictures" thread.

Think Moira Stuart was wise to obscure her features behind those flowers though. Allegedly.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

See, when Barack Obama found himself at a stag do in Wokingham, he was savvy enough to leave before the strippergram arrived.

Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

Sad thing about this is that it shows the awful little sneeze expulsion isn't a racist on top of everything else.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think this is really a gauge of that at all; which isn't to say that he is or isn't, just that whether he is should probably be judged on something less convoluted than 'why some of my preferred dominatrixes are black!'

and my soul said you can't go there (schlump), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

enh who knows

i do think he should answer the question why he was hot to hire coulson

he'll never say 'bc he did me a solid', but what will he say?

xp

haha yeah

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah despite her dominatrixing, the power relationship here runs along pretty traditional contours

xpost

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

'bc he did me a solid'

I hope this is not a reference to some of the services offered by Ms. Rowe's colleagues, as mentioned upthread.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

Better that than "he did me a sloppy".

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

There isn't actually anything much here at all except the lols and the direct connection between the prostitute photo and Coulson. We knew about George, cocaine and prostitutes, we knew that Newscorp and Coulson were positively spinning things to suit the Tories, we knew that Cameron wouldn't have hired him if he hadn't.

I assume this is one of those things that gets roundly ignored by the mainstream media who are terrified of the lawsuits until such time as it's all over the internet and they can do so with impunity.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

There isn't actually anything much here at all except the lols and the direct connection between the prostitute photo and Coulson.

it's a Good Story though, a good theory: why did osborne back the toxic coulson? one might ask. this is a plausible reason.

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp

oh - 'her pals' in my previous post was not meant to imply fellow sex workers; I meant the tories she knew.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

Oh It's An Amazing Story.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

... but I'm assuming they were, uh, delivering the solids services to said Tories? Scatological rumours never go out of fashion it seems.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

shit happens.

Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

What's in that aerosol in the photo? Seems like a strange item to be sitting on the table.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:04 (twelve years ago) link

Imagine these, uh, encounters get a bit smelly

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link

https://images.jmcatalog.com/prdimgs/Mes3et674/MESS/MESS3.JPG

conrad, Monday, 12 September 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link

wait so she'd bring in tories she knew to shit on other clients? metaphorical fetishes, i like it.

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

to clarify, as I understand it: the tories would be hanging out at their dominatrix friend's place. A client would come to see her, & presumably be taken to a private room. The client likes being pooed upon. At some point, someone – presumably not the client (one imagines him masked) – decides it would be a laugh for one of the young tories to do the chest-pooing instead of the dominatrix. Then, as Mark says, shit happens.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

yes, i mean i don't know if the details really hang together but I have had faith in the story ever since I heard it.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

Has it been confirmed anywhere yet that Paul McBride is defending Coulson? Only seen it as a rumour.

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure I read it in a news report last week sometime, can't remember where.

the art of posting sideways (onimo), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

Damian McBride would have been funnier

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

grauniad has reported the story

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

if only

conrad, Monday, 12 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

News International chairman James Murdoch will be recalled to give evidence on phone hacking to the culture committee, its chairman John Whittingdale has said.

The decision comes after MPs heard conflicting evidence over how much Mr Murdoch knew about the practice at one of News International's papers.

Separately, it has emerged the mother of a 7/7 bombing victim is to pursue a civil case against News International over alleged phone hacking.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

a quantum of pwnage

all the small zings (history mayne), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

odds he might be a bit busy this time round?

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

Renault has u-turned on its decision to boycott advertising in all News International titles following the phone hacking scandal at the News of the World that led to the paper’s closure.

The car marque, which became the only advertiser to boycott a News International title beyond the News of the World in July as a result of the “seriousness” of the phone hacking allegations, says it has now reviewed its advertising plans following a series of discussions with the publisher.

A Renault spokesman says: “News International has apologised for the wrongdoing committed. We have sought and received reassurances that they are fully and actively co-operating with the Metropolitan Police enquiry, that they welcome a broad inquiry into press and police standards and that they are reviewing their internal procedures and practices to prevent such serious problems arising again.”

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

va va cunts

conrad, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

whoa http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order

caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

An obscure clause – section 5 – of the 1989 Official Secrets Act, highly controversial at the time of its passing, allows individuals to be prosecuted for passing on "damaging" information leaked to them by government officials in breach of section 4 of the same act. This includes police information "likely to impede … the prosecution of suspected offenders".

The clause is aimed at those who deliberately derail investigations by, for example, tipping off a suspect about an impending police raid. But it is being used in this case in an unprecedented way, against individual journalists for publishing a news article. The Guardian's reporters did not pay any police officers.

yeesh

caek, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

brazen.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 16 September 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

should have tried the "you should tell us who your source is so we can disappear them give them a medal!" tactic instead imo

civilisation and its discotheques (c sharp major), Friday, 16 September 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

it worked so well in infernal affairs after all.

civilisation and its discotheques (c sharp major), Friday, 16 September 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Milly Dowler's family offered a £2m settlement: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14975549

StanM, Monday, 19 September 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

i hope they don't take it.

assume makes an ass out of u and me (but mainly u) (stevie), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z0-m31oh2w

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

How long can they continue settling out of court for? Given the scale of the phone-hacking this is going to put a serious dent in their finances at some point if it hasn't already.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link

two million is nothing to them, I refer you to Noodle's tube

robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link

Noodle's tube [citation needed]

347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

not only is it a piddling amount of money to NewsCorpse but the settlements will be made on a "how good is the publicity?" basis. on those grounds the Dowlers are probably higher profile than any other victim - nobody really cares if celebs get hacked, and if the evidence of hacking the phones of dead soldiers' families is there, the individuals are made less visible by their numbers and lack of a story.

people - maybe understandably - want exciting triumph of the little guy movie developments but it's not much gonna happen that way. this isn't done tho - NewsCorpse has undoubtedly suffered serious strategic blows, and investigations and eventual trials are certainly ongoing. sorry it won't be the revolution or anything but this whole affair is still a loss for the forces of unmitigated evil, whether we get to see a happy ending or not

Louis Jaha (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

Does anyone know what happened to the big cache of Sun emails that anonymous were supposed to be releasing?

AJD, Thursday, 22 September 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

coulson is suing news int'l?

conrad, Friday, 23 September 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

because they're no longer paying for his lawyers

Ward Fowler, Friday, 23 September 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

think clive goodman is also suing over this

Ward Fowler, Friday, 23 September 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

weird

conrad, Friday, 23 September 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Do you really think that hacking only happened on the News of the World?" he said. "Ask Dominic Mohan, the current editor of the Sun. He used to joke about lax security at Vodafone when he attended celebrity parties. Ask the editor of the Sun if he thinks Rupert Murdoch's contagion has spread to other newspapers. If he gives you an honest answer, he'll tell you it's only a matter of time before we find the Sun in the evidence file of the convicted private investigator that hacked Milly Dowler's phone.

"This month we learn that journalists at the Times are affected by this scandal. The paper is shutting down its BlackBerry phone network – I hope they aren't deleting the records."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/27/sun-phone-hacking-tom-watson

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

boss-eyed no mark Mohan is for it IMO

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

The Sun getting dragged into all this properly would make me so so happy.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

Hacking Claim Against People Paper

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

"He wrote in a witness statement leaked to Sky News"

Yrah, funny that.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

*Yeah*

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

WHY OH WHY HAS NO ONE clicked on to the fact that the problem is also with the MOBILE POHONE COMPANIES

Mark G, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

"ET, pohone home!"

Mark G, Thursday, 6 October 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Secret mobile pohone found

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-met-finds-secret-phone-at-centre-of-ni-hacking-2375996.html

StanM, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

sun hack jamie pyatt (best known for the story about prince harry in nazi fancy dress) is apparently the latest to be arrested over illegal payments to police. guess murdoch will just have to shut the sun as well.

joe, Friday, 4 November 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

In a 2001 Vanity Fair story about Liz [Murdoch] and [husband Matthew] Freud’s courtship, Freud was quoted openly mocking Rupert. The article infuriated Rupert. A story later circulated through Freud’s London office that one night, Freud got home and couldn’t get a signal on his TV. When he called the BSkyB customer-service line to ask about the problem, the representative responded coldly, “We’ve been instructed not to turn on this account.”

max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

via http://nymag.com/print/?/news/media/elisabeth-murdoch-2011-11/

max, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Ngl, if I had evil Murdoch-like powers I would do this to anyone I disliked.

bouquet beatdown (Nicole), Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

The News of the World hired a specialist private investigator to run covert surveillance on two of the lawyers representing phone-hacking victims as part of an operation to put pressure on them to stop their work.

The investigator secretly videoed Mark Lewis and Charlotte Harris as well as family members and associates. Evidence suggests this was part of an attempt to gather evidence for false smears about their private lives.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/07/news-world-investigator-spy-lawyers

James Mitchell, Monday, 7 November 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

is it me or shd the senior execs at News International be in jail?

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/07/phone-hacking-oasis-manager-alan-mcgee

^ and now they've hacked mcgee's calls to wee boaby g

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

The whole idea seems to have been to catch one of the lawyers having a affair.
"Yes, m'lud, we did hack into a dead teenagers phone but one of their lawyers a bit of slapper so...you know, better just let us off..."

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, how did they think this was going to play out in their favour?

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 7 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

The investigator secretly videoed Mark Lewis and Charlotte Harris as well as family members and associates

This is the Leggy Blonde? No, not Mark Lewis. I saw her the other week, she's a tiny little thing.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

... saw her in the street that is, in case anyone from NI is monitoring this... and not actually in the street, not lying down drunk or anything, just to clear that up

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

... but they've probably got it all on film anyway

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 7 November 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

"It turns out that my name has popped up in the News of the World phone-hacking case and they are investigating as I type."

He added: "Joking aside, if the police confirm that I have indeed been hacked, and even though this will have been years ago, I will still sue

it's the way he tells them

a guy called Gerard (onimo), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/unrest-at-wapping-spreads-to-the-sun-after-arrest-6259192.html

Tom Mockridge, the chief executive of News International ... addressed The Sun's journalists to explain why News International was supplying the Metropolitan Police with information about the activities of staff. He warned them that without the company's co-operation – and that of its staff – police officers would be entering the newsroom with search warrants.

...

At the end of the address, Mr Mohan and Mr Mockridge asked for questions. There were none and staff walked away in silence. "People felt like they were watching the end of The Sun," said one.

joe, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://onegayatatime.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/cautious_optimist.jpg

(although obviously feel for the cleaners, etc. if they're made redundant)

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

"People felt like they were watching the end of The Sun," said one.

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Why-Laughter-is-Contagious-2.jpg

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

J. Murdoch appearing before the culture select committee right now, bravely blaming his subordinates for the mess

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

Mafia boss! What a finishing move.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

Watson then asks him about 'omerta'. Murdoch replies he is not an *afficianado. He adds that he finds the line of questioning offensive.

Awwwww, diddums

(*LOL Grauniad)

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

tom_watson
I've got a massive day tomorrow. Should be preparing questions but can't break away from Portal 2 on the xbox.
16 hours ago

joe, Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkTw7J-hGmg

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

There is no cake.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 10 November 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

Watson appears to have a lot more information than Murdoch.

He asks Murdoch has he ever heard of Operation Millipede?

Murdoch says no.

Watson now asks him about Operation Tuleta - Murdoch cannot help him here or either.

Getting weird now.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

This is amazing, Murdoch is getting completely roasted question wise and tirelessly repeating the same argument without looking particularly flustered. It's like arguing with Geir.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

My favourite bit was when he got asked whether not asking glaringly obvious questions made him look competent or incompetent.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

Mensch had a busy night, what with fending off Limmy.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

Nicked from cookdandbombd

Would Prince William write to FIFA on behalf of the Scotland team wearing poppies? No. Cos he thinks ENGLAND won the war.

I'd love to slide a samurai sword up Prince William's arse to the hilt, then yank it towards me like a door that won't fucking open.

I don't gie a fuck if Prince William's the president of the English football whatever it is, we're talkin poppies here.

Absolutely fuck England and its royal wee family living it up while pensioners freeze to death.

England voted in the Tories KNOWING what would happen, just like Germany voted in the Nazis KNOWING what would happen. SAME PEOPLE.

To my mind, there is no difference between what's going on in England right now and Nazi Germany.

When England voted Tory they voted to plunge all people of Scotland, including the English here, into darkness, squalor and the common cold.

This is fucking excellent, I've got a shower of Tory cunts coming after me, retweeting everything.

This is the best night of my life so far.

Tim Montgomerie, Editor of @ConHome, founded Conservative Christian Fellowship @TimMontgomerie HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

COME INTAE ME, TORY SCUM, COME INTAE ME!!!!

I'm going to change my avatar to Stalin while I've got their attention, send them over the edge.

Buy my DVD in time for Christmas: http://tinyurl.com/limmydvd

If you want to gain 100 followers in an hour, like me, put "BBC" in your bio and wind up the Tories.

Netted a 17k+ follower Tory SHARK. It was THIS big. Night night.

Tory troller, Tory catcher, Tory eater.

Dear offended Tories, you stole our milk and next you plan to steal our sunrise. Fuck ye.

If I was to find out right now that Thatcher had died, I don't think my heart could take it. Jackpot.

How removed from reality must you be to not see Thatcher's death as a celebration?

My Die Now Thatcher avatar reminds me of the "DIE MORTAL" Jet Set Willy face.

That Tory has 17,191 followers. I had 16,550, but now have 16,937 thanks to him. And tomorrow I will overtake. HAHA. LOSER.

LouiseMensch Louise Mensch
“@DaftLimmy: If I was to find out right now that Thatcher had died, I don't think my heart could take it. Jackpot.” is that his avatar, BBC?

Bingo.

Big time.

Just caught myself a blue whale.

This is big time, Lachance.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

Limmy tweeted an apology, stating: “I have deleted my tweets, and I'd like to apologise for any offence caused. It is never my intention to offend. Please RT.”

Fuck sake, Limmy, you wee shitebag. You've let Scotland down, you've yourself down and, most importantly, you've let me down

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

SR: If it's revealed that the Sun does appear in the Mulcaire file, will you close the paper like you did the News of the World

JM: I think it's important not to prejudge the outcome of any of the investigations

JM: I don't think we can rule out any corporate reaction to behaviour or wrongdoing.

http://www.epicpeople.co.nz/store/images/Group_punching_air.jpg

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

Louise Mensch apologises that she has to leave immediately after her questions to collect her children which she says are the same ages as Murdoch's.
Fucking hell.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

12.54pm, that was.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

which Murdoch's?

Bond 23: Skyrim (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 November 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Jack Irvine, former editor of the Scottish Sun and managing director of News International in Scotland said "there seems to be a witch hunt at the Sun run by a former Daily Telegraph executive" who didn't know how tabloids operated.

*moan moan whinge whinge*

"The Sun boys are feeling very threatened and demoralised by all of this," Irvine told Sky News.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/SjqFOyfjyktkxzgq73EkIxDco1_400.jpg

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

are there no women who work at the sun?

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Well, they did, but they fired her.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

column on p3 iirc

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

“I am aware of the case of surveiling Mr Watson and again, under the circumstances I apologize unreservedly...It is not something I would condone, it is not something I had knowledge of. It’s important to say that certain surveillance of prominent figures is acceptable in investigative journalism, but in this case it is absolutely unacceptable.”

Found nothing then?

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

they caught him pwning n00bs on xbox

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

"we followed him into a room where he disappeared into a hole in the wall and somehow appeared behind us, carrying a box"

grandpa aaron knows how to live (onimo), Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

james murdoch arrested!

https://twitter.com/#!/SkyNewsBiz/statuses/135489287373336576

max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

huh, weird, they deleted the tweet

max, Saturday, 12 November 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Rebekah Brooks' PA arrested. Could be interesting.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 12:09 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3HM0BUz3WA

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

Awww man why did no one tell me Ian Hislop was giving evidence to the Leveson Enquiry today?

michaeljacksonpopcorn.gif

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:10 (twelve years ago) link

Asked if he has evidence for this, Hislop says: "Oooh."

MPx4A, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:02 (twelve years ago) link

is it wrong to be bummed at celebs willing to settle? i want these fuckers to go to trial. or am i massively misunderstanding what's going on?

Harvey Weewax (stevie), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

Hard to imagine Prescott settling up + shutting up

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

... well, shutting up, tbh

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

Although the lawyers' statement does not name names, it specifically accuses directors of News Group Newspapers Ltd, the Murdoch subsidiary which controlled the News of the World, of seeking to conceal the wrongdoing by "deliberately deceiving investigators and destroying evidence".

Harvey Weewax (stevie), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

What in blue blazes has Bob Crow got on his head:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58091000/jpg/_58091688_013811667-1.jpg

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

Ha! Two Great Beasts!

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

4 The Sun writers and a copper arrested: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16771809

StanM, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

News Corporation said it would continue to pursue "legitimate journalism".
News Corporation said it would continue to pursue "legitimate journalism".
News Corporation said it would continue to pursue "legitimate journalism".
News Corporation said it would continue to pursue "legitimate journalism".
News Corporation said it would continue to pursue "legitimate journalism".
News Corporation said it would continue to pursue "legitimate journalism".

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/8/8e/Legitimate_businessman

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

A slow but sure unwinding.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Police probe hacking at The Times

boom

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I think we're past the end of season finale and onto the extras disk no-one gets around to watching at this point.

The Preferenceville Horror (onimo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Starting to kick into high:

The Sun has been plunged into crisis following the arrest of five of its most senior journalists, including the deputy editor, over allegations of inappropriate payments to police and public officials.

The five Sun journalists are understood to be: deputy editor Geoff Webster, picture editor John Edwards, chief reporter John Kay, chief foreign correspondent Nick Parker and reporter John Sturgis.

The Sun's editor, Dominic Mohan, said: "I'm as shocked as anyone by today's arrests but am determined to lead the Sun through these difficult times. I have a brilliant staff and we have a duty to serve our readers and will continue to do that. Our focus is on putting out Monday's newspaper."

A News International source said Mohan was "not resigning" but added that it was "obviously a dramatic day for him".

Sky News reported that Rupert Murdoch is flying into the UK to reassure Sun staff that he will not close the paper in the wake of the latest arrests.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Sky News reported that Rupert Murdoch is flying into the UK to reassure Sun staff that he will not close the paper in the wake of the latest arrests.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

Very, very difficult to imagine he'd close The Sun. Think the NotW closure was primarily based on the Millie Dowler evidence.

Fizzles, Sunday, 12 February 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link

There's a suggestion that this could be much more serious for News International than the Dowler phone hacking because of US statutes preventing the payment of bribes to foreign officials, but i'm not sure how much weight that has.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

"Witch-hunt has put us behind ex-Soviet states on Press freedom - The Sun’s Trevor Kavanagh on the biggest police operation in British criminal history."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4124870/The-Suns-Trevor-Kavanagh-Witch-hunt-puts-us-behind-ex-Soviet-states-on-Press-freedom.html

mike t-diva, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

What a shame for the highly-paid amoral lawbreakers at The Sun that the higher-ups are dobbing them in to the law.

James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

We will build on the Sun's proud heritage by launching the Sun on Sunday very soon.
The new newspaper that doesn't publish the private voicemails of murdered teenage schoolgirls, brought to you by the journalists who listened to the private voicemails of murdered teenage schoolgirls.

James Mitchell, Friday, 17 February 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

wonder if this story will be covered in depth in the debut issue of the sun on sunday?

face depalma (stevie), Friday, 24 February 2012 07:50 (twelve years ago) link

Will Charlotte Church settling mean that we don't get to hear the real dirt (on New Int, not on Church) or will it all come out in the inquiry anyway?

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Friday, 24 February 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

Getting weirder

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link

She only adopted the animal so it would have a stable home.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

If she was sensible she would have worn one of these, while out riding her police horse:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DHcE_DhQ6oQ/TnN7XUiyGYI/AAAAAAAACyY/-ABXKFXGiQo/s640/IMG1061.jpg

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

"A horse, a horse, favourable coverage in the United Kingdom's best selling tabloid for a horse"

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

I can see that as tomorrows Sun frontpage.

um, unless..

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch quits News International

Mayan Calendar Deren (doo dah), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

James Murdoch has stepped down as executive chairman of News International [...] Mr Murdoch will remain as deputy chief operating officer of parent group News Corporation.

corporate boardroom musical chairs is all greek to me.

ledge, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

another innocent bites the dust

FPocalypto! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

from Rawkus to this, quite a tumble

face depalma (stevie), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

police announced in last few minutes further arrests for phone hacking

i guess none of this will really stick until prosecutions begin? this thing seems so big now - news int, police, politicians - i wonder if its not gonna blow over because people would rather corruption than cleaning house

yeah, i know, 'people'

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:02 (twelve years ago) link

Arrests incl 43yo woman in Oxfordshire. Who do we think that is?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:54 (twelve years ago) link

samantha cameron too young unfortunately

caek, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

sky has said it's rebekah brooks. conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

joe, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

samantha cameron too young unfortunately

― caek, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 09:58 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OH BOY THAT WOULD BE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

Misread twitter and genuinely thought that Charlie Brooker had been arrested - my heart gave a little leap of mean joy until I realised I was mistaken.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

conspiracy to be really smug on television

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

Conspiracy to destroy humour forever.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

This could be huge if it turns out to be true:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/26/news-corp-ondigital-paytv-panorama

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

almost identical allegations emerge in australia. four year investigation and 14,000 emails to back it up sounds promising. also:

The issue is particularly sensitive because Operational Security, which is headed by Reuven Hasak, a former deputy director of the Israeli domestic secret service, Shin Bet, operates in an area which historically has had close supervision by the Office of the Chairman, Rupert Murdoch.

and:

The actions are documented in an archive of 14,400 emails held by former Metropolitan Police commander Ray Adams who was European chief for Operational Security between 1996 and 2002.

a met police commander overseeing a criminal conspiracy on behalf of rupert murdoch? i'm astonished!

joe, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

i've just been through the whole story. they're clear in saying that the piracy and hacking wasn't illegal in australia then - although it's also clear they were hacking and pirating cards in other countries where piracy was illegal. (they even had the chutzpah to get one of their own hackers thrown in jail in thailand - via hacking his email!)

by the time you get to the end, they're charging other pay TV companies for "security", against the hacking that they'd sponsored. nice pay TV company you've got here, would be a shame for anything to happen to it, eh?

joe, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

what especially sucks about that is that foxtel (only 25% owned by news corp btw) is essentially running a pay tv monopoly here, having either defeated in the market or attempted to acquire its opposition (in a country where murdoch already has far too much influence)

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

FREE MARKET BLARGH BLARGH BLARGH

Nascar Pony (stevie), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

Frontline all about this tonight for US Fans of Murdoch-Bashing.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

I am another crazy

TURPS-DEFCON1.jpg (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

LOL BSkyB

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i think this is the right time to revisit this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS5mVoqJpUk

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

POOR JAMES

I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

Naughtie obv, murdoch can go boil

I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

JM has got a really annoying voice. I can't work out whether he's irritated he's at the inquiry or just a bit thick.

mmmm, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

shoulda stuck to the record industry imho

I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Rupert Murdoch ‏ @rupertmurdoch

Now we on cusp of new wave of tech transformations to beat last century growth. Big data,smart manufacturing and wireless. Exciting !

sthing abt his cadence, nonsequiturs and partially demented rambling reminds me of lee perry

he is a great tweeter

caek, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

he is a terrible human being

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

JM has got a really annoying voice. I can't work out whether he's irritated he's at the inquiry or just a bit thick.

non-stop corporate bollock speak does that - impossible to emote when talking that shyte.

i would love for some to drop him a tab, see him loosen up and see what happens then.

i reckon he is holding some serious secrets for future power games.

mark e, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

I reckon he is a bit thick

o s– man (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

oh my

caek, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

Entertaining stuff, this report.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

(from the guardian):

‎"Philip Davies says it is not only way over the top, but completely ludicrous, to say that Rupert Murdoch is not fit to run a major international company.

"We all make mistakes, we all wish we'd done things differently," he says."

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

That's him admitting he shouldn't've been a Tory, then?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

i would love for some to drop him a tab, see him loosen up and see what happens then.

it wasn't a tab, but he wasn't as wild and crazy as you'd think, and this was back when he was 21-22

although I guess now with all the money sitting around him he could really afford to be wild and crazy

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

:D burrrrrrrn

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

On her relationship with News Corporation executive chairman Rupert Murdoch, she said "in the main, on the big issues we had similar views" but they disagreed over issues including the environment, immigration and font size.

Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

"anti-Sky bid alliance"

It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Friday, 11 May 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/15/rebekah-brooks-charged-perverting-course-justice?CMP=twt_gu

Rebekah Brooks, the former chief executive of News International, is to be charged with perverting the course of justice, the Crown Prosecution Service said on Tuesday.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:05 (eleven years ago) link

oh that's too bad

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link

Still, Chin up and lol, etc.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

In a statement, they accused the CPS of "posturing" and said: "We deplore this weak and unjust decision."

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:09 (eleven years ago) link

looking important to this important and high-profile news story gracing the cover of tomorrow's telegraph

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:14 (eleven years ago) link

I blame the Anti-Sky Bid Alliance

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link

lol this thread started 5 days after she allegedly did 9/11/the offence

caek, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

wait no, there are ~3 charges, she was allegedly conspiring all through july afaict

caek, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

is this about when her husband dumped a laptop in a dustbin that time?

It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link

Perverting the course of justice is a serious crime. It has to be tried in the Crown Court before a jury and can, in theory, lead to a life sentence.

If can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

... LOL, DC

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

I know Cory Doctorow can be irritating, but this is a good review of Dial M for Murdoch:
http://boingboing.net/2012/05/15/dial-m-for-murdoch-e.html

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

Holy shit. Yeah wondering if some of the charges are linked to this mysterious laptops-in-bins thing, which was never really followed up.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

lots of love

caek, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

Shocking apologism from ITN at the moment - "it's not murder, it's not rape -it's sometimes difficult to believe that all this is about accessing voice messages", "if they're cleared, there will be a reckoning"....

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like brooks was perfectly happy to participate as long as everything went her way

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

hardcore fucking sook

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

she's so got a dossier .. that statement = "dont fuck with me, or your wife will find out"

mark e, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Brian Limond ‏ @DaftLimmy

Imagine finding Rebekah Brooks dead in her cell. The trauma! Why, I would wish to compensate the officer £10,000. I repeat, £10,000.

navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

nagl

raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

nagl pt 2: http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/05/jeremy-hunt-fred-michel-texts/

stet, Friday, 25 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

!

Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

protester but no pie

blair's a poised, smarmy bastard isn't he

all his vocal tics drive me mad

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 28 May 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

Bar-L beckons

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

andy cLOLson

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

david cameROFLon morelike

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

"Jeremy Hunt says he thought about his own position but 'had conducted the bid scrupulously fairly through every stage'"

DG, Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

Seem to have gone from having a Prime Minister who would spend days and sleepless nights agonising over whether he prefers Bourbons to Jammy Dodgers to one who doesn't seem to have a thought in his head and a care in the world

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 1 June 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

So all I saw of Cameroon was him answering every qu that he couldn't remember anything, anytime, anywhere or know about any subject.

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

wouldn't pass his CSE that way

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Early tweets say Rupert Murdoch's just resigned as director of NewsInt and The Times!

higgs' besom (suzy), Saturday, 21 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

O_O

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Saturday, 21 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

this was implicit in the announcement of int/corp split up a couple of weeks ago i guess?

caek, Saturday, 21 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

but lol

caek, Saturday, 21 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

A total of eight out of the 13 people arrested on suspicion of phone hacking will face charges.

A further three people on police bail over hacking allegations have not been charged. The decision relating to two others has been deferred, the CPS has said.

The eight individuals to face charges are: Rebekah Brooks, Andy Coulson, Stuart Kuttner, Glenn Mulcaire, Greg Miskew, Ian Edmondson, Neville Thurlbeck and James Weatherup.

caek, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 10:28 (eleven years ago) link

hope that delia smith exclusive in 2005 was worth going to prison for, whatever the fuck it was.

joe, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link

full charge sheet here

joe, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

hope that delia smith exclusive in 2005 was worth going to prison for, whatever the fuck it was.

Maybe it was a recipe for baking a cake with a hacksaw hidden in it

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

so for wade this is in addition to perverting the course of justice, but no news yet about a decision on possible corruption charges (i.e. police bribery), right?

caek, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link

Is that a separate investigation? I think they have three on the go at the moment.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

I expect Cameron, Blair and Brown have been texting her to send their commiserations... uhhhhhhhhhhh

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think it must be. not keeping up with leveson, so i'm missing a lot of the actual news here.

caek, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i think these are from operation weeting (phone hacking); the bribery one is operation elveden and there's also operation tuleta (computer hacking), neither of which the CPS have made a decision on yet.

joe, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

coulson looks a bit like dom.

caek, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

not too be super cynical but i'd like some more info about how her thing is run, & what she'd actually propose NI do - it's obviously a really nice contrast from just hearing james murdoch at all but it's a very sensible move to distance herself from their gross & toxic overly corporate rhetoric. but yeah hearing someone defend the license fee is neat &c.

very sexual album (schlump), Saturday, 25 August 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

have we really not updated this in six months??

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/08/police-officer-prison-officer-the-sun

The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

remember this guy? pretty sure he's a motherfucker with dark secrets... http://www.kentonline.co.uk/east_kent_mercury/news/2013/march/14/former_tabloid_journalist.aspx#.UU2XKCVFvlg.twitter

The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Saturday, 23 March 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

His masochistic glee in receiving kicking after kicking while defending the press in every TV studio in the land suggested he had, uh, issues

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 March 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

the picture in the piece looks like it was taken the morning after he received a drunken kicking in a gutter somewhere. he reeks of 'wrong-un' to an almost comedic degree.

still, i bet that piers hernu looks at mcmullan and wistfully thinks, that could have been me.

The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Saturday, 23 March 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

What a nugget, it took me 20 seconds to find that jam jar story debunked on google http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/ec-labels-ban-on-re-using-jam-jars.html

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 23 March 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Mr McMullan, who is 45, says he was inspired to put himself forward as a UKIP candidate by two events.

The first was the fact that three months ago his 80-year-old mother, who likes making jam, was among those affected by the new law from Europe saying she could not re-use jam jars.

“There has to come a time when enough is enough,” said Mr McMullan, who runs the Castle Inn and backpackers hostel in Russell Street, Dover.

my clearest memory of this guy is when steve coogan destroyed him on newsnight, and yet here he's basically just alan partridge

Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 23 March 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

I was just thinking about this thread this morning. Some great posting up there.

the profane theology of (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 09:34 (ten years ago) link

Looks like a second season's been commissioned . . .

Random .mdb Memories (NotEnough), Monday, 3 June 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link

What's your favourite post from this thread? Let's take a trip down memory lane.

the profane theology of (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 10:06 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

I can't even

my eventual wife (stevie), Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:34 (ten years ago) link

heartbreaking stories from these poor journalists whose families have suffered at the hands of an uncaring police force. i wonder if any of them suffered the same agonies on behalf of the people they've smeared and libelled thru their gutter comic over the years?

begging for a 'downfall' parody video, isn't it?

my eventual wife (stevie), Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:53 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Error 451 freedom of speech not found

freedom of speech not found

Guru Meditation:

XID: 1949454984

Varnish cache server

aldi young dudes (suzy), Sunday, 28 July 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link

freedom of speech not found

Good

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 July 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link

i read that story last night. i find it quite hard to believe tbh.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Sunday, 28 July 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...
three months pass...

I know this isn't directly phone-hacking/newscorp related, but

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/2014/03/wendi-deng-note-tony-blair

sktsh, Thursday, 20 February 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link

I know it couldn't happen to a nicer bloke but vanity fair really is just gutter journalism with a coat of gold paint

badg, Thursday, 20 February 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

News breaking that Coulson has been found guilty of hacking (but perhaps not other charges), Brooks not guilty.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:04 (nine years ago) link

I will never forget the giddy euphoria of June 2011.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:05 (nine years ago) link

If I had to pick one to go down it would be Coulson, so fair enough

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:18 (nine years ago) link

Fuck with the Royals, down you go. Fuck with anyone else, retain the firm of the PM's brother for your defense, and off you get.

leave the web alone boys (suzy), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:20 (nine years ago) link

^

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 11:26 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

new season starting a bit slowly but paedophile political conspiracies definitely a promising plotline.

woof, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link

Putting the Great back into Brittan.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:31 (nine years ago) link

this thread reminds me i need to buy private eye this week

You are the worst breed of fong (stevie), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:38 (nine years ago) link

Geoffrey Dickens as I shall always remember him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29HX0I46sQ

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link


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