The extraordinary art of Vsevolod Borisovich Ivanov

http://slavs.org.ua/vsevolod-ivanov

http://englishrussia.com/2007/10/29/northern-dreams/

I'm having D&D supplement flashbacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kgx2b1sIRs

Thomas Kinkade for the St0rmfr0nt crowd? or am I being cynical here?

that's what i thought, but i'm almost always cynical

Those are ludicrous (though perversely interesting) and play so strongly on absurdly nationalistic ideas of Russo-Slavic volk mythology that I half expected to see at least one or two of them depicting giant Russian warriors kicking the shit out of Jews. I'm grateful that none of them do, but who knows what's not being shown? Similar art (though with more of a "Balkan" slant) was widely influential on Serbian criminals like Karadzic, Milosevic and Mladic, and are still used as cover art on various books and musical releases of a genocidal / nationalist bent, not only in Serbia, but throughout much of Orthodox Slav world (not so much in non-Slavic but Orthodox cultures like Romania and Greece), and increasingly even in largely Catholic Slavic areas like Poland and western Ukraine. Substitute some of the pagan imagery for more demonstrable Christian imagery and swap a few symbolic images for ones with local relevance and voilà. Sad.

Similar art (though with more of a "Balkan" slant) was widely influential on Serbian criminals like Karadzic, Milosevic and Mladic

lol sure

Thomas Kinkade for the St0rmfr0nt crowd? or am I being cynical here?

― gtforia estfufan (unregistered), Thursday, 2 June 2011 05:43 (6 hours ago)

tautology surely?

http://slavs.org.ua/img/paintings/ivanov/07.jpg

these are the funniest cuz of the mammoths

http://slavs.org.ua/img/paintings/ivanov/24.jpg

They remind me of the kind of picture-book illustrative stuff that I used to lose myself in as a kid - spending ages reading a book over and over, pretending I was in the story, copying the pictures and adding my own figures. Voted for "Wizards on Bridge", although I like them all.

Some of these have the look and feel of lost album covers for Asia.

that last one, that huge boat made of loam and trees, fills me with wordless wonder.

Some of these have the look and feel of lost album covers for Asia.

Asia, Blood in Our Wells

swap a few symbolic images for ones with local relevance and voilà

the fortress tower in the foreground of the last-posted painting appears to be emblazoned with a decorative swastika, or some variation thereof? wonder if this counts as both.

Slavic kitsch

that last one, that huge boat made of loam and trees, fills me with wordless wonder.

― d(▽＿▽)b (c sharp major), Thursday, June 2, 2011 6:16 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

OTM! wish i'd voted for that one, but got overexcited halfway through and voted instead for the ice mammoths. love these, btw. totally get the creepy nationalist/volk/SF vibe, but am still taken by the whacked-out kitsch grandeur of the vision. reminds me of the stuff that blew my mind as a kid: tripped-out roger dean dream landscapes (and yeah, their descendents in asia album covers and such), super detailed fantasy & sci-fi art, and the d'aulaires' books on greek and norse gods.

Similar art (though with more of a "Balkan" slant) was widely influential on Serbian criminals like Karadzic, Milosevic and Mladic

lol sure

Laugh all you want, but nationalist art was a big subject among those three. Milosevic created a grants council for artists who worked at "preserving and furthering the historic culture of the Serbian people," and much of what was produced was crap exactly like this. When some of Karadzic's "poetry" was anthologized and printed in book form, the covers of at least two of his books were reproductions of color paintings with overt nationalistic imagery that looked exactly like this (well, a little less "artificial" looking, but strikingly similar otherwise.) All three of them, in public speech, made use of imagery and (so-called) folk-legend that mirror these images ("Serbians were eating with golden spoons in castles when Germans and English were still living in sod shacks, scrapping food into their mouths with dirty hands from wooden bowls.") You may be able to make an argument discounting a lot of Milosevic's and Karadzic's uplifting of this stuff as the result of cheap political utility, but Mladic (at least) was a true believer. In any case, your "lol" seems pretty ignorant.

u sound like an earnest feeb

think u got to assume jugoslav ethnic cleansers would have got round to killing ppl even without the stirring kinkadian poetics of these amazing paintings

A number of swastikas--see the chest of the big floating dude 2 pics up--thouigh they are the left-facing "eastern" version rather than the right-facing "Nazi" version, for what that's worth

Ivanov, Vsevolod B. born on August 14, 1950 in Belomorsk. 1978 - graduated from art school in Tver specialty graphic designer.

Until 1974, he participated in the city, regional and single-Union exhibitions of amateur artists. After 1978 was exposed through the Union of Russian Artists.

"From a young age I knew that the Russian people mercilessly ograblyali ograblyayut and economically. But no less terrifying robbery - a perversion of the history of Russian family. Stolen from an ancient period of historical development of our Russian ancestors. Distorted the history of medieval Russia.

Faked recent history. However, over the past decade, it became possible to publish literature about the true ancient and the ancient annals of the Russian people. And I'm the man who knocked fifty years, had, as a student, to master this magnificence. Cycle "Vedic Rus" will continue until the end of the allotted period of life. My Creativity - the bridge on a sunny and beautiful world of our Russian past. They do, I'll dip into the world of our solar Russian past. Yes, and contemplation of paintings by artists such as V. Korolkov and B. Olshansky - a great joy. You realize the power of the brush, despite the development of photo, film and animation vsetaki as strong as 200 years ago. The art of Russian painter must carry and educational functions. Need to actively oppose the "globalization" of art! "

lol vedic rus

i.e., nationalist kook

Thanks for the new display name

Oh man I bet he's down with the new chronology with all that "stolen history" talk.

ograblyali, ograblyayut, life goes on, da

time was, russians and mammoths lived together in the tundra in vedic harmony

then the mammoths betrayed the russians to the khazars

oh man this thread is such a treat. so many glorious details. i still have so much to learn about the history of medieval russia -

http://slavs.org.ua/img/paintings/ivanov/25.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/N4m0s.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7JpKS.jpg

love the boredom of the sleigh gang here

http://slavs.org.ua/img/paintings/ivanov/04.jpg

i am also a big fan of birdhead boat dock, wolf attack, plant boats. some of these have an almost mesoamerican tinge. gotta vote for this wonderful building tho -

http://slavs.org.ua/img/paintings/ivanov/15.jpg

such a splendid eurasian structure, adorned w/ ornamental mushrooms & a wacky swastika. the inexplicable owl man is just the icing

http://i.imgur.com/fS9o8.jpg

this thread is a gift

http://i.imgur.com/4qYXR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cWTZV.jpg

i am v curious about any other romantic nationalist art portraying reimagined ethnically pure histories, pref w/ flying vehicles

ya i think russia lends itself to this sort of multiform ethnogenetic kitsch, since it can draw on slavic, nordic, fennougric, turanian, generically 'asiatic' tropes, i suppose at a certain remove who's to say that the mayans aren't descended from some intrepid novogordians who set off across the floes on their trusty mammoths?

novgorodians even

I'm so sorry. I just have to bust in here and say that I totally misread 'mayans' as 'nyans' and thought you were bringing the cat into this discussion.

yeah, i was hoping there'd be some bharatiya janata party endorsed artwork as they were v proud of finding the birthplace of lord ram and changing revising the history textbooks, but i am turning up nothing

http://i.imgur.com/trJul.jpg

lol

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the wooly mammoths will be delighted

sad face of a building

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Die_drei_Bogatyr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eqLQDZA.jpg

Are some of these meant to be aztecs too?