i thought this would be a fun poll so i thought i'd do a brainstorming thread first. what are you mad at george lucas for THE MOST?
stuff like:
- showing boba fett's face (and him as a whiny kid)- greedo shooting first
...etc
i made it '90s onwards so none of you wiseacres can claim the OG star wars movies
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
jar jar binks of course
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
probably the biggest for me, fuckign with the original movies and then getting rid of the negatives (allegedly)
s1ocki beat me to that one
any of the "romantic" scenes in the new trilogy
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I would have nominated trying to make Brian Benben a movie star but I suppose that's small beer.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
impossible to make a coherent list of offenses
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Reducing the Clone Wars, which seemed like the coolest idea ever when they were hinted at in the original series, into a bunch of boring bullshit involving "trade federations" and such.
― gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
looking like this
http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/07/10/09_lucas_lgl.jpg
― velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
midichlorians
― goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
tehse are all good
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Greedo shooting first - it totally messes up the impression that the first time audience has about Solo. Han shoots first = sketchy character who you're not sure about for the whole movie.
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
mrs skywalker dies of heartbreak
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Indiana Jones vs. The Lame CGI & Goddam Aliens Ferfuckssake
― gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking up howard the duck (or is that pre-90s?)
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
the kid who played anakin skywalker
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Why is the thread question in plural? His biggest crime was making more movies.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
when Anakin becomes Darth Vader and then looks up at the camera in the sky and goes NOOOOOOOOOO
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:41 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yes smart guy we know but it's more fun to pick at the insane little details
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
― goole, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
if i made a thread called "the crimes of hitler" i dont think anyone would complain that it shouldnt be in plural because his crime is "the holocaust"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
not at least trying out a few alternate solutions to whatever is going on with that beard and his chin
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Please note that utility data for the entire campus is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify savings, individual building meter data will need to be obtained from the campus.
^^^this, far and away. its one thing to churn out crappy product, lots of aging directors do that (hell, young ones too!), but deliberately screwing up your past work - so that NO ONE can ever enjoy it again, that's a whole other level of unforgivable.
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
what a weird quote
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I still love the Patton Oswalt bit about how Lucas fucked up all these awesome characters by showing them as whiny kids, "you like Angelina Jolie, right? here's Jon Voight's testicle!".
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont remember anyone saying THAT xp
hahahahah oh man
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
shoudve been this: probably the biggest for me, fuckign with the original movies and then getting rid of the negatives (allegedly)
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
fart jokes in episode 1
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha that is totally the highlight of my day so far
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
is that his pitch for a campus sex comedy?
― velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
btw if anyone wants some campus utility data hit me up yo
what drove me NUTS is how he passive-aggressively included the real movie as a "special feature" on the dvd release but not the anamorphic version. SUCH a bitch move.
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i am giggling like crazy at shakey's c&p gaffe
especially, "^^^this, far and away."
I don't think we can accurately judge Lucas' output without individual building meter data!
― Mariela Ure (jeff), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the demuppetification of yoda.
― For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha the best was the 5 seconds before i realized what happened
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought it was some obscure nugget about lucasfilm's data output and how that proved the originals didn't exist any more or something
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Agreed. I was just "...wait, what?"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the china-town sounding trade federation dudes said something like that in ep 1
― goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i was like
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Co-incidentally, someone was here to read the meter this morning.
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
does anyone have a cite to the real individual building meter data from Ep. 2? is that on the DVD?
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
"Begun this data scrub has."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i am dying at my desk here
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
promising to make "small, personal" films only to immediately return to raping our childhoods with his big cgi dick
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
no matter how much i do like spielberg, i downgrade him for pulling a few of these lucas-style moves in his career, too.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
totally... ET gun/walkie thing
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
also to answer the thread question
http://www.ketzer.com/movie_props_replicas/pepsi_watto.jpg
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i've never forgiven george lucas for starting yourprops.com
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
cannot BELIEVE lucas tried to make us get individual building meter data
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i was talking about the baseball hat
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
well if the point of the thread was to start a poll over what was specifically the worst of his crimes, people might
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
The rest of us just get a yourprops.com logo placeholder.
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ this, far and away -- if you can't get individual building utility data out of the application, how are we supposed to verify savings?
oh no I mean: the prequels had maybe a bit much of sorta ethnic-typed aliens, which I think we've discussed plenty before
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watto
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
lucas and spielberg represent a lot of people in hollywood who apparently think the audience just can't handle moderately edgy shit anymore.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:54 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
let us not split hairs and have this dumb argument, everyone knows what i meant. can we just keep laughing about the meter thing
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i have GONE OFF about this before, but what really drives me nuts is that the basic scenario laid out in the prequels is really interesting! but they are still horrible. it's like someone made three really horrible movies out a great novel about a despot's rise to power. except there's no such novel. it's the weirdest thing.
xp yes wtf how can u introduce the idea of SLAVERY in the universe and then not address it ever again
― goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:55 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
and yet you see a transformer's balls in TF2 :(
not splitting hairs, slocki, the observation wasn't earnest
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
gotcha
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
balls are funny lol : D
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
nb I am usually less morally "offended" by ethnic-type aliens (though there's maybe a bit of that with Watto or JarJar) and more just aesthetically offended, like ... please actually make up a fucking alien from your head and not just animate some CGI Central Casting Stock Mildly Offense Ethnic Archetype shit
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
knowing what little i do know about producers via my limited interaction w/them, i can say that they're mostly total retards who get bored by difficult films like 'heat' and 'the departed'
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i think that's why everyone hated them nabisco
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
so a couple of giant nuts swinging to and fro onscreen would naturally be the most hilarious thing imaginable to them xp
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
adding a candy-ass scream to luke's climactic fall in Empire so that his suicidal rejection of darth becomes "OH SHIT, I SLIPPED!"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe he was just psyched to be getting away from his freak dad
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
han solo stepping on tiny jabba's tail in episode iv
^
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair, swinging close-up IMAX testicles would be marginally funny for 30 seconds or so, and will probably feature in a Baron-Cohen movie at some point
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
making people call star wars "episode IV: A New Hope"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^
that, too me is the greatest crime
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
omg totally
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
like seriously, from teh coolest movie title ever (at least when you're a kid), STAR. WARS. to... "a new hope."
or making Raiders into Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
A New Hope that Lucas will stop fucking with Star Wars
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
it sounds like some corny-ass mandy moore flick about the summer after high school
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
her name is "hope" in the film
Anakin: I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
haaaaa xp
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
this is kinda funny: http://www.starwarsuncut.com/
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
The CGI "celebration sequence across the galaxy" in Return of the Jedi, the updated version. Like the Ewok song was bad enough George.
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
"death sticks"
― Grip Tape And Some Wikked Trucks (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
can't imagine what a kid who's already seen I-III would think of "A New Hope." But then any kid that actually sat through I-III without the memory of the original trilogy is already unfathomable to me.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i mean, if you watch them "in order" does it make any kind of sense?
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's weird to think that someday (if not already) there will be folks who will naturally gravitate towards watching the six films in numerical order
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
like doesn't it completely undercut the big darth is luke's father reveal??
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I keep drilling my 8 year old son over and over again that Empireis the best, but Ep III is his favorite. "Anakin's annoying.""So what, he's cool. And I like droidekas."
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
droidekas?
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
This is probably more of a good thing than a crime, but that the key battle scene between Anakin and Obi Wan Kenobi appears to be entirely modelled on the Black Knight scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690
― Keith, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
what a disaster this will be for whatever young mutant would actually watch them all for the first time in numerical order
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
you'd like to think by halfway through Clones they'd just put on some brokencyde and play a video game
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
ya im just sayin!!
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess what really pissed me off is that when i watched the original trilogy i there were passing mentions of a young anakin/vader, i always imagined this amazing charismatic, grim, kinda sociopathic dude who would be played by some epic actor, but then they toss it to some asshole who comes off like a fratboy killer from some episode of csi: miami.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"and there"
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
that's almost too complimentary to hayden christiansen
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
what bugs me even more is that young badass obi wan turned out to be such a drip... he really should have been the han of hte series...
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i mean alec guinness was kind of weirdly imposing, right? and ewan mcgregor came off as kind of...short?
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god yeah crime no. 35235: Obi-Dan Fogelberg
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
The alterations made to the Jabba's palace scene...ughhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQzJlL1wqs
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
they always implied that obi-wan was a real loose cannon and his recklessness is sorta what "made" darth vader
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Darth Maul sure was thrilling, though, no? With his Mudvayne make up and everything?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
insertion of Hayden Christensen ghost at the end of Jedi was particularly grating and is a handy symbol for the new films poisoning the old ones.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
oh remember when obi wan and liam neeson double-teamed him? that was so cheap!! they also double-teamed count dooku, an elderly man
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
it's such a basic rule, the GOOD GUYS are supposed to be outnumbered
Its been hinted at, but it needs to be said - CGI Jabba.
Motherfucker had GRAVITAS when you just assumed that he was moved by people, based on his influence. Now, thanks to Colonel Neck Retention Chinstrap's merciless fucking about, Jabba is a slug, skirting around freighter bays on Mos Eisley.
― I got it. I'm gone. (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
half the OG characters were these free-wheeling assholes too, and everyone in the new trilogy was really inert and studied.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
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― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
god when i saw those remastered/restored star wars movies... digital jabba made me really sad xp
― ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
― I got it. I'm gone. (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:16 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
totally totally
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i gotta say i thought macgregor was a great obi wan but its not hard to look good in those movies
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously, the whole awesome thing about jabba in return of the jedi was he didn't move
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
they also double-teamed count dooku, an elderly man
Bad image. Very bad image.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought macgregor got the voice down 100% and he was ok in some ways, but his physical presence was nil imo
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
he had the voice down and he seemed game but he had nothing to do but frown and scold
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
xp haha
possibly because they made him wear a rattail
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
You want gravitas? Jimmy Smits had gravitas.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess macgregors obi-wan should have been the WORST thing in a potentially amazing star wars prequels and instead it turned out to be the best
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
The idea that nearly every jedi in the universe can be killed by a bunch of regular dudes in one fell swoop, and without each death being an incredible epic battle, drove me insane.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
you know, in theory I appreciate trying to make Anakin's move to the dark side feel like the result of a personal/emotional tragic flaw as opposed to an intellectual decision, but holy geez did they take this way too far, even despite all the crappy exposition, basically making his change into Vader feel like the result of just being a jackass teen-rebel wannabe who fell in with the wrong crowd
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
a list of what people praised from lucas '90s on is just about as embarrassing as his crimes.
YODA FIGHT WOW!!!!
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean there's the banality of evil and then there's just the banality of these movies
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair to ewan tho what would you do if you were cast as OBI WAN FUCKING KENOBI and you show up to the set the first day and find out you have to do a scene opposite the kid from jingle all the way and stepin fechit inside a blue room?
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Did you know that Anakin cannot possibly attack Obi-Wan effectively when Obi-Wan has the higher ground? The things you learn.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
the campy bad guys were the only good part of the prequels: dooku and emperor were over the top
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
big crime for me: making rational adults see the prequels multiple times until they "kinda liked it" by holding a lightsaber to their inner child's neck
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha i remember how desperate i was at that point to find ANYTHING redeeming about the movies that people would ask me how it was and i would be like, YODA FIGHTS!!! and theyd be like yeah but is it good and id say YODA FIGHTS A DUDE and theyd say youre not answering my question and then i would go cry somewhere
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
YODA FIGHTS DOOKU yeah for about 15 seconds...
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
one thing i liked about the originals was the fact that around the margins there were all of these minor roles filled by these really solid character actors that helped fill in the universe a little more without overly explaining it, whereas the new films had none of that, just the occasional smits/sam jackson/terence stamp star cameo bullshit.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
like the entirety of the empire's fleet was commanded by bbc regulars, i loved that
i mean i've been over this abt 6934873208 times with my friends but ppl can be forgiven imo for having blinders on through episode 1 and even episode 2.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG esp. when Han stepped on his tail & Jabba's comic exclamation. That really should have tipped all of us off that this man was no longer to be trusted with his own mythos.
― gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
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Read some thing on the net arguing the best order to watch them in for the first time would be I, IV, II, V, III, VI, which kind of makes sense if you think about it.
― chap, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Or that Admiral Piet was managing Slade at the same time?
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
T/S: Peter Cushing vs. fake Japanese lizard spice federation trader
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
> YODA FIGHT WOW!!!!
Seriously, that sucked bad. He should be a total effortless zen master Sam the Seed type, not a hyperactive squirell with a glowstick.
― For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Best order surely IV, V, VI, I, II, III, IV, V, VI ?
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
IV, V, VI, I, I, V, VI, II, I, II, III, II, IV, V, VI
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
So true. Every so often one of them would turn up in a series I'm watching and I'm all "Hey it's that guy!"
A favorite example -- Christopher Malcolm, Saffron's dad in Absolutely Fabulous = dude who is flying around in the snowspeeder looking for Han and Luke on Hoth. He was also the original Brad in the first London production of The Rocky Horror Show.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread's making me want to watch IV for the first time in years
i'm afraid i won't like it now though and i really want to retain my childhood 'best movie ever' memories of it
― extremely demanding on the hardware (ciderpress), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Terence Stamp should have played and evil cockney Jedi called General Zod.
― Keith, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
IIRC - wasn't the original Anakin - as in, the one revealed at the end of Jedi - British?
Like, what the fuck making him sound like a kid from the Valley?
There really are so very many things wrong with everything done in the world of Star Wars after Return of the Jedi, and all its subsequent toy releases. Because lets be honest - there were some badass toys for the first three.
And Darth Maul. Motherfucker should NOT have been killed in one movie.
― I got it. I'm gone. (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― chap, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
actually watching the prequels now in any order you put them makes no sense at all
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
motherfucker should not have been in one movie imo
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i will never get tired of complaining about these movies
maybe that was the greatest gift george lucas ever gave us :)
seriously, he's like the most reliable punching bag in cinema history
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.icanhasforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/star-wars-darth-maul.jpg
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
what's funny is i do think there is some good shit in II and III (very sporadically in II, mostly when obi-wan is off playing detective on other, weird planets), but it's all trumped by epic fuckups.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought the prequels had ruined the originals for me, but when Return Of The Jedi was on Spike I went into childhood nostalgia overdrive even as I groaned through the new CGI and admitted to my star-wars-ignorant gf that "this is really stupid."
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
the opening sequence of III is pretty great as is the big fight at the end, as long as you forget about monty python
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
did we bring up darth's NOOOOO in III yet?
ya
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.mickeyxtreme.com/images1/news%202005/22705glucasa.jpg
― velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry i mean yaaaaaaaaaaaaa xp
what 2 has going for it is that it's better than 1. could never bring myself to watch 3.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
2 is worse than 1
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
although they're both pretty bad
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgCGyzABAxM
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBsm2HiLubY
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
how lame is it that he doesn't actually kill her
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ok the thing about 1 is that in addition to being terrible it provides absolutely nothing to the story arc. i mean it could literally not exist and you could pick up just fine w/2.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
there are some neat visuals in episode ii. i like that rainy clone-maker planet and that harryhausen monster gladiator arena toward the end.
but yeah, the movies are garbage.
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread is depressing me. I've been living in an OG bubble with my precious memories and was unaware of the extent to which Lucas had totally ruined everything.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
2 has some bigger peaks than 1 imo but the valleys are abysmally deep
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
love scenes between two of the most wooden actors in cinema history in ep. II
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
yes the clone-maker planet or whatever in II, that's pretty great. everything else i guess is pretty horrible.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i like this picture, because vader is all "NOOOOO" but the emperor is all, "dude, yesssss!!!!"
http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l436/elc1247/darth_vader_nooo.jpg
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess all i am saying is that even tho the romantic scenes in 2 are some of the worst ever committed to film, they advance the overall story--more than could be said about anything that happens in 1.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i liked the wookie planet, was that 3? it has some crazy name like kashhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyykkkkkk
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
not sure if portman is less embarrassing in the star wars prequels or in garden state
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
wasn't the original Anakin - as in, the one revealed at the end of Jedi - British?
maybe being British is just indistinguishable from being half-robot and not having had sun on your skin in decades
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
that's what i call pod racing!
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Thought Hayden was pretty good in Shattered Glass, and have liked Portman in some things. I hear that Lucas didn't exactly do a lot of takes, or give notes, or etc.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't mind dude in shattered glass but he was a toolbar in Jumper and I have yet to see his Dylan
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
lucas is a closet bressonian
― velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
its a way of life
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
May the farce be with you...
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDCjIjsZp_Y
― schwantz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I mean: "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."
― Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
immortal dialogue imo
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
christensen is great in shattered glass but he's supposed to be playing unlikeable
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
whereas anakin should have SEDUCED the audience with his charms before turning bad... you really should have been onboard with him for like 2.5 of the movies
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
that would have been awesome. rip childhood :(
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
he never "turned bad," though, he just sort of had a tantrum and then eventually fell in some lava
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
um he slaughtered an entire school full of jedi
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i think another problem was starting anakin's story when he was a child, i think that all we needed to see was maybe some flashback to him being born and then flash-forward to him as a young adult, skipping all the other shit.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
he might as well have huffed off to his bedroom, slammed the door, and then come out Vader the next morning
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― Keith, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I find it hard to blame the actors in these fucking movies at all. Yeah Christensen might be a shitty actor (though I'll echo the praise for his performance in Shattered Glass) but Lucas just obviously did not give a shit about the human performances.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
This isn't nineties, but I ate this a couple of times as a kid, making faces a lot like the one below:
http://www.thestencil.com/archives/images/cthreeps%20pic.jpg
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
it was like when butters turned into professor chaos
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost - haha Que I mean despite the attempt at a drawn-out exposition filled seduction of Anakin to the dark side, he generally just seemed like he got pissy and decided to be bad, there was nothing even resembling like a tragic and conflict-filled change of character
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I find it hard to blame the actors in these fucking movies at all. Yeah Christensen might be a shitty actor (though I'll echo the praise for his performance in Shattered Glass) but Lucas just obviously did not give a shit about the human performances
^^^^ Although it does make me wonder if the rumors about the Tom Stoppard polish on Episode Three are true. What good was it if none of the actors knew how to deliver the dialogue?
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha "C-3POs -- the breakfast that's both effeminate and contains metal"
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"i'll try spinning, that's a neat trick!"
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
think another problem was starting anakin's story when he was a child, i think that all we needed to see was maybe some flashback to him being born and then flash-forward to him as a young adult, skipping all the other shit.
the prequels are a really good cautionary tale for when you're writing something, be it a novel or a movie script. if you've got some backstory that explains how characters got the way they were, either make it brief or incorporate it into the story. or drop it. don't go back into the past and show us darth vader hitting puberty.
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
btw shakey's c&p upthread had me dying
http://www.dlisted.com/files/EP2-8_22.jpg
"Please note that utility data for the entire campus is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify savings, individual building meter data will need to be obtained from the campus."
― velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i would love to see the meter data on natalie portman's individual building
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
lolll
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
lol I am the only person here who doesn't hate these movies
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
stoppard polish rumor, gimme a fuckin break
― goole, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.fvaathletics.org/mo/Media/thispartysover.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
btw can i just
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Was Anakin's little friend in Ep. 1 actually Greedo? Because if so, then that.
― Grip Tape And Some Wikked Trucks (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Nah.
hahahahha ned!
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
topnotch caption
had it with this motherfuckin utility data on this motherfuckin etc.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.portfolio.com/images/feeds/blogs/15-darth-vader-hand-large.jpg
"Join me, and together we will collect the individual building meter data!"
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
oh! every fucking jedi council in these movies was so lame! also whenever they're in the galactic senate and there are some fucking et's floating by--that sucked
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.geocities.com/ottopallone/sw/sw5.jpg
"Where is that individual building meter data?"
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
jesus christ really? it's like everything that should not have been linked up between the two series was, and everything that needed to be was not
his worst crime imo was that in a very bored moment at work i started rewriting one of the scenes from the 1st one that in half-remembered form was still bothering me. he made me do this.
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://smashcut.today.com/files/2009/04/vader_no.jpg
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
McDiarmid is pretty good but he's not an emperor, he's the chicken hawk who hits on Chris in "The Family Guy."
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/081002/empire-han-leia-goodbye_l.jpg
"I love utility data!"
"I know."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
those really are the two most boring sentences i've ever seen in the english language, it's amazing and hilarious
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images.publicradio.org/content/2007/05/25/20070525_star_wars_con74318188_18.jpg
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
lol I am the only person here in the universe who doesn't hate these movies
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://sharksandbears.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/ewok.jpg
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Dammit you just beat me to the punch latebloomer.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.edholden.com/images/starwars/emperor-luke.jpg
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
dammit latebloomer I was about to post that
also my wife likes all six of these movies more than everyone here put together
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Caption this one.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050516/050516_ianMcDiarmid_hmed_3p.hmedium.jpg
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
you guys are killin me
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I also do not hate these movies, Dan. I went to Star Wars Celebration in L.A. in 2007 and watched all six in a row for 17 hours.
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/e8/Yoda%27s_death.jpg
"There...is...an...oth...er...BUILD...ING...MET...ER."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah as far as the devil being in the details, anakin's hair is sort of a nice summation of the crimes of george lucas ('90s on).
― us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
haaaaahaha Ned people in my office are looking at me like I'm crazy now because of the wang laughing
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
It is a period of civil war.Rebel metermen, strikingfrom a hidden base, have wontheir first victory againstthe evil campus utility.During the battle, metermenspies managed to steal secretplans to the utility'sultimate weapon, the DATASTAR, an armored spacestation with enough savingsto destroy an entire endowment.Pursued by the utility'ssinister agents, PrincessLeia races home aboard herZipcar, custodian of thestolen plans that can save herpeople and restorefreedom to the sophomores....
During the battle, metermenspies managed to steal secretplans to the utility'sultimate weapon, the DATASTAR, an armored spacestation with enough savingsto destroy an entire endowment.
Pursued by the utility'ssinister agents, PrincessLeia races home aboard herZipcar, custodian of thestolen plans that can save herpeople and restorefreedom to the sophomores....
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__eDmAwVrYYg/SfO3I8LB4NI/AAAAAAAABgo/oMbQ8wTQ5Sk/s400/SWMACE.png
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
what are the best of the non-parody, non-turkish fan-edits of this series? i want to have a star wars marathon but don't want to inflict the official versions on anyone.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, forgot about this choice but of dialogue:
Anakin: Are you an angel?Queen Amidala: What?Anakin: An angel. I've heard the deep space pilots talk about them. They live on the moons of Iego, I think. They're the most beautiful creatures in the universe.
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
er, choice bit
http://laweekly.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/force_choke_2.jpg
"I find your lack of data disturbing."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe a moderator can take out Shakey's quote and replace it with something that appears to be a bit more conforming.
― http://tinyurl.com/lrhdut (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Dan I was looking for that so thank you.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.postkiwi.com/images/2005/5/Anakin-Padme.jpg
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Anakin: Are you an angel?Queen Amidala: What?Anakin: Never mind. But when I grow up I want a piece of that, okay?
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
thank god no one is sitting next to me today.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread is way more entertaining than the prequels.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://worldofliz.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/jabbaleia.jpg
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://wisportsconsin.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/spaceballs-right-now.jpg
Dark Helmet: What's the matter with this thing? What's all this churning and bubbling? You call this individual building meter data?Colonel Sandurz: No sir, we call it 'Mr. Coffee'. Care for some?Dark Helmet: [pause] Yes! I always have coffee when I watch utility data for the entire campus. You know that.Colonel Sandurz: Of course, I do.Dark Helmet: Everybody knows that!
― Mariela Ure (jeff), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Yoda: Good relations with the Wookies, I have.
ew
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
How old are Anakin and Padme when they start knocking boots?
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.dancewithshadows.com/media/images/anakin-skywalker.jpg
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/marilyn_manson-three-jpg.jpeg
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nLxjw6ZMy10/SRu9Vukq1XI/AAAAAAAABnI/_K1Fvm5DgSk/s400/HanCantina.png
"You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon? She's the ship that collected the individual building utility meter data in less than 12 parsecs."
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5557/84445610.jpg
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
bow down
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
― mark cl, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Not too much different from the actual Episode I crawl tbh
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
we have a winner
― Mariela Ure (jeff), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
classic
btw there's apparently only a 5 year gap between P & A so that's not as skeevy as I originally thought it was
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
took these at ALA this week, seems relevant:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3446/3724664350_71004731ac.jpg?v=0http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3724666102_bbee076d83.jpg?v=0http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3723858781_49e00a6222.jpg?v=0
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
They were handing out compiled individual building meter data.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
ACRL didn't have stormtroopers, what a ripoff.
― Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.r2-d2.de/Character/Bilderseiten/ep-5-%20(42).jpg"downloading ur individual building utility meter data"
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.georgettesworld.com/main/lukeobitroopers.jpg
Please note that this is not the utility data for the entire campus that you are looking for.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit s1ocki
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
http://the-trukstop.com/articles/2007/images/star_wars_wallpaper/wookiee.jpg
"Please note that utility data for the entire campus also included is. This the only data made available with the application was, and in order to savings accurately estimate and verify, individual building meter data obtained from the campus will need to be."
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
lol at snoball
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf I don't even remember yoda and the wookies
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Ok, I've tried reading about this, but I can't understand it. What does a non-anamorphic DVD release mean? Is the picture squished?
― Emmet Otter's SugBan Christmas (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
holy fuck this thread is classic
― la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
"Non-anamorphic" means the metachlorian count is unusually high for a major studio release.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
― Emmet Otter's SugBan Christmas (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it means the black bars at the top and bottom are actually part of the image itself. so if you watch it on a widescreen tv, it just floats in the middle with black bars on ALL sides.
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
IT'S SICK.
does the movie at least bounce around the screen
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://kimskorner.zed1.net/albums/Answers/jarjarbinks.jpgPlease note that utility data for der entire campus also included is. Mesasa Jar-Jar Binks! Dis der only data made available with der application was, and in order to savings accurately estimate and verify, individual buildin' mesater data obtained from der campus will need to be. Oh. Flbulbulbu.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Flbulbulbu otm
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
how long did it take to translate that into jive, joygoat?
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't the age gap was the bulk of the weirdness on this one!
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
^ "think"
There still exists on the internet a Jar Jar Binks translator: http://www.elibs.com/e/funkatize
― joygoat, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j227/bizzarofett/tarkin.jpg
"You would prefer some other utility data? Perhaps individual building meter data? Then name the system!"
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
The age gap wasn't that big, but for that age group it is still pretty bizarre for a woman to be dating someone that much younger.
― Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Baby cougar mama drama
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the Jar-Jar Binks translator may have changed my life forever
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll put it this way
5-year age gap = who cares
you're a 32-year-old woman who meets a 27-year old you used to babysit for as a kid and now he seems cute = go for it
you meet a child and are sort of around as he goes through adolescence and then as soon as he's getting grown up you get with him = did Woody Allen work on this script?
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
ha! i was wondering how long it would take for ian to get here...
And tis taken even longer for mesa to get back. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa!
Mesa was crushin' on old-school Hillary Clinton (in her Twenties) -- probably because she wesasembles mesa supremely attractive friend Erin (who, despite likin' mesa, is with someone else wight now and so she's horribly unattainable). Huh? Goodness gracious, Mesa'm an absolute sucker for blondes derse days. Way? Esqueeze mesa. But after droppin' by a bookstore yesterday where mesa long-time friend Molly (who is not a blonde, mind yousa) works -- oh goodness, she's always shtunnin' but yesterday Mesa wesaally wanted to pounce on her because she looked so exceptionally scrumptious (without even tryin'!) and was just so bubbly and charmin'. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Mesa wanted to playfully tackle her behind der counter and from derre on it would've been wonderfully inappropriate! Anyhow, she's invited mesa along to dinner and some other event with a group ta her friends on Friday -- tis not a date essentially, but at heart Mesa wouldn't mind if it twisted into one. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Ooh, Mesa just wesamembered that she complimented mesa appearance! No-one ever does that! Squee! Cuddlestein Mountain! Nuvvieworld! okeday, Mesa'm just gettin' widiculous -- Mesa'm just excited because tis a prospect to escape social poverty with a possibulhint ta womance. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Mesa'm probably bein' toosa optimistic; Mesa can't help it! Mesa've wanted somethin' to look forward to!
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:41 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Oh dear.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_976Nt4Z9vlQ/RlcT1-JE3zI/AAAAAAAAA9U/y4yQZzc0fNk/s320/star+wars+trio.jpg
"Where were you guys?"
"We ran into a meter whose utility data was the only one made available on the application."
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm seven years old than my husband, which is no big deal, unless we started dating when I was in senior in high school and he was ten. (We did not.)
xp
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
you meet a child and are sort of around as he goes through adolescence
Dude, he says at the beginning of Episode II he hasn't seen her in ten years; i.e., ages 9 through 19.
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
you meet a child and are sort of around as he goes through adolescence and then as soon as he's getting grown up you get with him =seriously though exactly how many roles has Morgan Freeman played where his character could be described as "wise" or "a seasoned veteran" or "jaded"
― velko, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anyone else feel like Padme gets YOUNGER as these movies goes on instead of older?
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Dan, I see you and raise you:
---
I had a friend who would chew up two hula-hoops and dern deposit der chewed up gloop inside der O ta a third hula-hoop. Way? Esqueeze mesa. dern she'd eat it. Oh. Flbulbulbu.
Yup, Mesa used to do dis. Oh. Flbulbulbu. Mesa'd also chew up a couple ta pringles and use der wesasultin' paste as a sandwich spread between two intact pringles. Oh, NOOOOO!
-- Markelby (boyincorduro. Way? Esqueeze mesa.), April 20th, 2005 10:57 AM
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, she acts like a seven-year-old by the time Anakin breaks her heart.
(xpost)
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
oh my god
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:45 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ best yet
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
what, I'm supposed to change my mockery based on remembering actual factual details from these films? I think not
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
but ok fine, then, I guess she can hit that
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
now say it like Yoda
hit that, she can
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, you can continue mockery based on the fact that she barely even recognizes him, while he's apparently perved on her from afar for ten years.
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
a pervert you think she is then, yes, Pancakes? mmm? mmm?
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
he's using the force like one would use x-ray glasses
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Yup. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Mesaf yousa spend long gettin' friendly before yousa brin' 'Mesa want to be on yousa' into it, dern yousa'wesa kind ta betrayin' whatever friendship yousa've established beforehand. Oh. Flbulbulbu. She's gonna think yousa wesare sweaty-palmin' it all along (which yousa wesare), and it might make things difficult for a while. Oh, NOOOOO!
And yousa know dis, that's why yousa (probably) never wesaveal der sexual tension yousa've built into yr. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! 'friendships', thus sparin' yrself der ugliness. Mesasa Jar-Jar Binks! And possibulblowjobs. Way? Esqueeze mesa.
Moral: yousa have to be creepy. Way? Esqueeze mesa. Yousa have to make yousar fuck-want clear from der beginnin', even if yousa choose to go smooth and disguise it as 'womantic interest'. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Mesa understand that der womantic interest woute is bery popular. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa!
Mesa didn't get fucked, didn't get kissed until Mesa was in mesa 20s. Huh? Drove mesa fuckin' cwazy. Way? Esqueeze mesa. Mesa obsessed about it and about mesa own sexual loserdom to der point ta incapacitatin' mesantal illness and listenin' to Swans wesacords. Way? Esqueeze mesa. Dern Mesa got drunk, hooked up with a lovely and similarly enabled girl, and . Way? Esqueeze mesa. wesall, let's discreetly draw der blinds on der indiscretions ta der past. Mesasa Jar-Jar Binks!
Disagree that gettin' laid is not a curative, though. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Tis a curative. Oh. Flbulbulbu. Mesa never worried about it after that, and never had trouble makin' mesa intentions clear to girls Mesa liked. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa!
― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:38 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I would maybe just reframe my mockery to say it seems a bit of a psychological stretch to imagine a beautiful and successful 24-year-old queen going for a petulant teenager she met once when he was 9, and moreover I think we ALL KNOW where this crappy dating decision led
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread is one of my all-time favorites. All time.
― NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
arsas far as tits go, bigger is better. Way? Esqueeze mesa. mesa gf has two wound wobust milky white 38Ds, with dark brown nipples that spread 3 in across her beautiful tit flesh. Huh? i've been with lesser woman and have not had similar pleasure, especially der ones that are all nipple. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! mesa cock toosa is a thin' to behold. Oh. Flbulbulbu. mesa gf mesaasured it at 8.5 in ta dark brown veiny mesaxican cock. Mesasa Jar-Jar Binks! uncut, ta course. Huh? it took her about 2 yrs to be able to swallow it all. Oh, NOOOOO! but she perfected der art ta deep throatin' mesa shlong. Oh, NOOOOO! i've seen other guys at der urinals and dery see mesa. Oh, NOOOOO! i'm blessed with a flaccid cock mesaasurin' almost 7 inches. Oh, NOOOOO! most guys have little peepees peekin' out ta derir flies. Huh? i have a snake. Mesasa Jar-Jar Binks! thank u bery much!
-- stephen garza, Friday, January 10, 2003 9:50 PM (5 years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I suspect Dan and I are not helping Nabisco's patient outlining of the general problem.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://smicketysmom.bravepages.com/Es%20Art/Star%20Wars/AniPadme%20Meadow2.jpg
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I wonder how the universe would have wound up if she'd been into Macgregor instead
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Suddenly, everything was dark and smelly.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
xx-post -- What the hell is that and why are you making us look at it.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
possibulblowjobs
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, yousa told mesa and that evenin' Mesa vowed never to accompany kev through customs. Mesasa Jar-Jar Binks! Dery are kiwi sized but don't appear out ta proportion next to his large cock. Oh. Flbulbulbu. Far from bein' circus-freak like, he is jaw-droppingly awesome. Oh, NOOOOO! Wha a guy. Oh, NOOOOO! Mesa can't wait to get home and climb aboard his grocery groin. Oh. Flbulbulbu.
-- Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, March 3, 2004 10:09 AM (Wednesday, March 3, 2004 10:09 AM) Bookmark Link
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
"grocery groin"? With that and the pic posted above, this thread is taking a surreal turn.
― Gark M (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
we've gone straight through some kind of custos event horizon itt
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Lucas is reading this right now; he's been googling his name all day and now has his script for next film.
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
we should be so lucky
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
lol 'grocery groin'
― mark cl, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
co-workers will soon notice
must stop reading thread
http://jarjarbinks.home.insightbb.com/Naboo/Tarpals.jpg
― pj, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, wesall, Mesa'm married to a curvy Colombian woman, so der flowers ta indie wock womanhood look decidedly dingy and drab to mesa, and always have. Oh, NOOOOO! Der indie world's concept ta sexy is bery closely wesalated to its concept ta 'wock': limp, non-threatenin', far more interested in talkin' than fuckin'. Way? Esqueeze mesa. -- unperson, Monday, January 7, 2008 7:51 PM
― well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Neddo Raggetta: "What the hutt-slime is that and why are you making us look at it."
― grocery groin (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ meant in the context of Lucas is reading this right now; he's been googling his name all day and now has his script for next film.
― grocery groin (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
okay so Mesa figured 'dis won't be bad, maybe some awkwardness and dependin' on how tis Mesa'll either keep goin' to der kitchen or wun back to mesa woom'
so ta course Mesa walk out derre and she's got her ass in der air while dis scrawny indie fop WEARING A TRUCKER HAT AND NOTHING ELSE is attemptin' to INSERT HIS COCK IN HER ASS. OH, NOOOOO!
ON MY COUCH
Mesa go out and dis sight actually caused mesa to go 'oh ugh god!' Mesa woommate tumbled out ta her awkward position onto der floor landin' on her shoulder and Trucker Hat fell to his side with a grunt. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! mesa woommate shrieked 'wha are yousa doin' home?!' and scampered into her woom, almost on all fours, past mesa. Way? Esqueeze mesa. she slammed der door behind her. Ooh! Mesacky icky goosa! Trucker Hat gathered his pants and WAN INTO THE KITCHEN
ta course i followed him and he was sputterin' 'sorry dude sorry dude' and Mesa just said 'let mesa get mesa sandwich and yousa go clean up MY couch!' he agin said 'sorry sorry sorry' and wan out ta der kitchen and to der bedroom, he pounded on der door and asked to be let in, and mesa woommate let him in.
MESASA JAR-JAR BINKS! MY LIVING WOOM SMELLS LIKE NOTHING MESA'VE SMELLED BEFORE
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, April 13, 2004 4:10 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
memory is fuzzy but was queen amygdala an elected queen with term limits? how do you go about electing royalty?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
probably in an election
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I can totally see how an elected queen works -- it's just like any other elected position except you get special clothes and better stuff for your family
― nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchyAlthough it's implied in II that everyone votes in the Naboo elections.
― grocery groin (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
You also get to boink guys you used to babysit.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
fuckin gungans, they just vote for whoever promises more welfare
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
sure it wasn't decided through collecting utility data?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
queen amygdala--sounds like the queen of STD's. What is Amygdala anyway
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
in fairness, boinking the babysitter/babysittee just a universal perk of politics
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:18 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
too true :(
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
(xxpost) Amidala - amygdala is a bit of yer brain
(xxxpost) But that would only work if they had utility data for each individual building, which they didn't because their application wouldn't allow it.
― grocery groin (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://coreygilmore.com/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg
what I do best...
― grocery groin (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
that's a 'shop
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
the crimes of Cowardly G. Soundgarden (342 new answers)
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
no I'm pretty sure it's a horse
why are the guys from Office Space beating a horse
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
because of the data thing
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Definitely a 'shop. Ron Livingston originally had a golf club in the horse-beating scene.
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
One thing that really bugs me in these movies is that they insist on putting every last line of Yoda's dialog into his screwed-up Yoda syntax. There's a scene in Attack of the Clones where Yoda is supposed to be commanding the Clone Army in the heat of battle and it's obvious that his garbled syntax makes snap decisions virtually impossible because it takes him 10 times as long as it should to give a simple order.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
When The Phantom Menace first came out, there were lots of crazy people arguing that it was a better movie than the original because it had "real" actors like Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor rather than Mark Hammil and Carrie Fisher. These people were obviously smoking crack.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i didnt even know that was from office space. still havent seen!!
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
was this literally crazy people yelling things on street corners saying this?
xpost - WHAT?!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
do you think you could find anybody (outside of skywalker ranch) these days who will go to bat for these movies, specifically to argue that they are better than the originals? do this person exist?
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/120294/better_than_the_original_trilogy_the.html
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ the article for which the word "challop" was invented
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Nowhere in the original Star Wars trilogy is there any sequence of events nearly as profound in their application to real life as the manipulation of Palpatine as he orchestrates the separatist movement "headed" by Count Dooku, which allows him to go before the senate and ask for special "emergency powers" to deal with the growing threat facing the peace of the republic. Perhaps if America had embraced the prequel in the way they did the original Star Wars trilogy they would recognize the danger when an elected member of a representative republic asks for "emergency powers" to combat a threat.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
makes you think
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Watching the Stars Wars prequel is like a lesson in civics
sounds fun
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that's not even challop-quality, too earnest
i mean
Chances are you don't even remember these words of Darth Maul: "Fear is my ally."
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
He's written a number of things.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
There is no scarier scene in the entire Star Wars canon than the one that takes place in Attack of the Clones between Anakin and Amidala when they are having a discussion about the politics of the republic, and Anakin suggests that the system is broken and needs to be replaced with something where one person in charge has the power to enforce laws he feels is for the good of the people. To which Amidala replies, rightfully, that what Anakin is talking about sounds like a dictatorship. And then these all-too-familiar words from Anakin: "Well, if it works."
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
dont you see??? the iraq war is OUR fault. for NOT LOVING THE PREQUELS.
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
The Disappearance of Sunday Best and the Relaxation of Proper Church AttireWhat is acceptable to wear to church changed quite a bit over the last quarter of the 20th century.
The Effect of Crime Scene Investigation Technology on the Private Detective ShowWhat ever happened to the traditional detective show on TV? The crime scene investigation show killed it, that's what happened to the traditional detective show on TV.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Class Warfare, Ideology, and the Ways in Which Rap and Country Music Are Identical EntitiesSome of the greatest music in pop history was forged by the rebelliousness engendered by class warfare; then there's rap and country music in which class distinction created the desire for assimilation into the capitalist ideology.
I'm not sure we have that individual data here.
― well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
There is no scarier scene in the entire American canon than the one that takes place in between McCain and Palin when they are having a discussion about the politics of the republic, and Palin suggests that the system is broken and needs to be replaced with something where one person in charge has the power to enforce laws he feels is for the good of the people. To which McCain replies, rightfully, that what Palin is talking about sounds like a dictatorship. And then these all-too-familiar words from Joe The Plumber: "Well, if it works."
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
What Do You Know About Weddings?Weddings are one of the oldest and longest-lasting rituals known to man. The joining of a man and a woman in matrimony is a rite of passage shared by civilizations across the planet.
Bio:Timothy Sexton was named AC's very first Content Producer of the Year. If you get the message on his home page here that he has published no content, understand it's a glitch: he's published 3500 pieces of content on AC alone.
Interests:Ticking off conservatives by revealing how facts disprove their ideological theories, revealing the complexities of movies that have been dismissed by clueless critics, The Simpsons, 80s alternative music
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― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Titles that I Published This Week that You Probaby Weren't Notified OfI did not receive notification of most of these articles having been published so I assume most subscribes did not. I simply want to bring attention to the fact that I was published this week. Not a lot, but here are some you may have missed.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
With the Adoption of Preventive Detention Pres. Obama Becomes the New CheneyYes we can? Oh no, you didn't! Obama's acceptance of preventive detention means suspects can be jailed without evidence based on what they might do in the future. Is Obama really just Cheney in disguise?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Is the Catholic Church an Institution Too Silly to Be Engaged in Serious Discourse?Isn't it time to relegate the Catholic Church to the same peripheral status we give to Flat-Earthers and right-wing militias and neo-Nazi skinheads.
Yes, isn't it.
How to Quit Wasting Time and Start Making the Most of Your DayA little lesson in time efficiency.
On that note.
I have distinct memories of LOTS of people around me going to bat for these when they first came out (particularly I, but also III) but 10 minutes into Phantom Menace I basically became a completely unforgiving asshole about Lucas and his general horribleness and had a lot of arguments with various apologists.
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
The Effect of <something_you_like> on <something_you_hate>.What ever happened to the traditional <something_you_like>? The <something_you_hate> killed it, that's what happened to the traditional <something_you_like>.
― grocery groin (snoball), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i think a lot of people were in denial early on, kinda like everyone i was with at this midnight screening of 'the matrix reloaded'
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i went to the matrix reloaded with like 12 of my friends and we all came out and before anyone said anyhting i was like well that was a huge piece of shit and then no one would talk to me for the rest of the night
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
theres a picture somewhere of me as a junior in high school with a bunch of other dudes outside a movie theater where theyre all giving a thumbs-up sign and im standing slight off from the group giving a thumbs-down
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
brand loyalty is a weird thing
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I STILL stand by my claim that the series went to hell with Empire Strikes Back. They'll have my Star Wars original edition DVD-R sourced from LaserDisc when they pry it from my cold dead utility data.
I wasn't really ever bothered by moving Jabba, and only moderately bothered by Greedo shooting first. What bugged me the most was all the shit added to Mos Eisley. I loved it when it felt more like an empty and evil version of Barstow.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I did kinda like the production design and architecture of II and III. It was like all the Kelly Freas and Omni magazine covers brought to life.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
that's an unusual claim... imho Empire's the best one, the only one that's really enjoyable start-to-finish.
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, I'm more bothered by all the extra shit added to THX 1138
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:52 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^this, except instead of having lots of arguments, I just quietly ended lifelong friendships and eventually moved out of the state completely.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a couple little nephews (8 and 10) who still get really upset whenever I am forced to admit how much I hate the prequels
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
That's...extreme.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
it was a pretty bad fuckin movie
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:58 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i dont know about only one but it is weird to think EMPIRE of all things is where it went wrong... it's where the series went RIGHT!
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, Elvis - any chance of hooking a brother up?
― NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's ok for a kids movie. except all that stuff about trade disputes and campus data collection.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I was exaggerating a little bit. (Although I do have two friends with whom I maintained only trivial contact after I moved out of state (for non-Star Wars related reasons) in part because their endless enthusiasm for the prequels, even after they came out and proved to be almost physically painful to endure, made me examine whether we were really all that compatible, friend-wise, or whether our friendship was mostly logistically driven.)
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't give a shit about Star Wars, but I think George Lucas made a dumb cameo on The O.C. once.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iwxrGHiS6Y
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
guys reading this in the library was a fucking trial
― bentley cadence (gbx), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, for about a year after Episode I came out I was pretty insistent that it was a good movie, I wanted so much for it to be a good movie it took a while to admit that it wasn't.
― Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
It's good that we know each other now, then.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Thing is if you read the first draft of the original star wars story it's terrible. Then he reworks it a bit and it's still terrible. Then I dunno he goes and reads The Hero with 1000 Faces or whatever and suddenly you've got this gem. And ok he sustains it for Empire but Jedi is pretty bad... so realistically what we're talking about here is not the betrayal of a lovable and long-lasting franchise, more the failure to repeat one or two flukes.
― last night i dreamt somebody shoved me (ledge), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
so realistically what we're talking about here is not the betrayal of a lovable and long-lasting franchise, more the failure to repeat one or two flukes.
very true - when you look at his overall career arc its pretty bad, there was nothing in it to suggest that these sequels were gonna be anything other than terrible. (Altho you have left out the anomaly of American Graffiti, which is pretty good.)
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link
one of my bosses lives next to George Lucas and I have to continually bite my tongue whenever he's blathering on about something "cool" he heard about/talked about with/witnessed involving George
(oddly I do not have to bite my tongue at all with my ILM-employed bandmate, who, as an employee of Lucas's, is entirely cognizant of his failings)
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Everyone has opinions exactly what is wrong with them and how they can be fixed but movie editing software is so cheap and easy to use now. I mean... have at it, guys!I await your results.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link
the editing is the least of these movies' problems
*star wipe*
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I've read off and on how enterprising nerds were able to excise Jar Jar and Jake completely and seamlessly from the series, and that sounded pretty impressive.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno if this is challops or just overfamiliarity with the cliches thanks to decades of teen comedies, but American Graffiti did pretty much nothing for me when I finally saw it a year ago.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
when you look at his overall career arc its pretty bad
As a writer-director-producer, yeah. As a film-technology guy, he's been immeasurably important, esp. in terms of sound design, sound editing and nonlinear film editing.
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Not that he invented any of that stuff himself, but he assembled the teams that made it happen.
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno...Diner makes AG look anemic.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
"film technology" guys should know better than to insist on being writer-directors.
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
(I haven't seen AG in at least 15 years, so its possible my memories of it are overly rosy)
No argument there! xp
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i loved the '97 rereleases, but i was 11 years old at the time and still impressed by, like, final fantasy cut scenes
― mods did ✈ ▌▌ (cankles), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:22 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:22 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this made me legit lol btw
― mods did ✈ ▌▌ (cankles), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
still reading the thread so maybe this has been mentioned already but one thing in episode three that drove me nuts as much as anything in the prequels - was just talking w/my dude about this the other day actually - was when they had james earl jones talk in an american accent at the end of the movie, to match up w/fukkin hayden christinstinet's voice. goddamn that was some bullsquid.
i also never really 'got' why there were so many dang racialist stereotype aliens - obviously i'm not offended by them, but it's just mystifying, it's not like there was a precedent from the earlier movies???
― mods did ✈ ▌▌ (cankles), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link
it depends on how you feels about the "jawas" (p.s. they did alderaan)
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I bought the 2006 limited time re-releases merely cuz they contained hte original theatrical cuts (albeit in very low quality laserdisc transfer, but who gives a shiz).....
then I farted in Lucas' face
― III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
one of the crazyfrustratin things about the prequels is how there's all these hints of badassery on the margins that's never delivered on - like fukkin temuera morrison as jengo fett, and the whole clone army of jake the musses, but it's never really as cool as it should be. the whole thing is just like.... unexploited opportunities. it's like if u were present at 9/11 and had ure handheld camera trained on the towers, and right before something happened (planes hitting, towers falling, people jumping) you train the camera away and zoom in on a cloud shaped like a giant pair of balls
― mods did ✈ ▌▌ (cankles), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
episode II is, i still maintain, one of the all-time great comedies though. the more 'human' lucas tries to make things - the more he tries to emulate human emotions with his cold steely robo brain - the more insane and embarassing shit gets. i saw it with a non-nerdy adult audience at a midnight showing, and as a collective experience it really drove home for me that it uh... i was just like, this HAS to be satire or something. the whole theater was losing its shit by the time we get to the shot of portman wearing a leather bustier and chilling out by a fireplace, it reminded me of vivian leigh in 'touch of evil' or something.... the whole romantic storyline, the holy-shit-are-you-shitting-me-ness of almost every scene (yoda fight), it fries my circuitry so much that i cant even articulate what im getting at so i'll just conclude by posting this:
[img]http://i25.tinypic.com/1z222dd.jpg/img]
― mods did ✈ ▌▌ (cankles), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i25.tinypic.com/1z222dd.jpg
Yes, that is exactly what I thought. Imagine if you'd been on the plane with your camera.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I remember reading something about prequels somewhere which basically summed up why they were bad with the line, "Oh, Gandalf, kiss me again."
― Great Expectorations (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i saw ep II at the mann's chinese theater in hollywood on a massive screen with a packed house that could not stop losing its shit over every serious scene.
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
When I saw ep 2 the guy next to me yelled out "HEY LOOK ITS SHREK" every time a CGI character appeared on screen.
― prosciutto-wrapped Hot Pocket (los blue jeans), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link
otm. My buddies and I treated it like Mystery Science Theater shit.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/onion_imagearticle1296.article.jpg
― http://tinyurl.com/lrhdut (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
something that hasn't been mentioned: Jar Jar Binks casting the vote that grants complete power to the Emperor.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link
It's funny to read the Jedi hate/disappointment cause I loved that movie so much when I when I was a kid. I was a month shy of my 9th birthday when it came out and I knew it was going to be coming out for ages before, back when it was going to be called Revenge of the Jedi so I was super excited and looking forward to it. I didn't even hate the Ewoks.
In retrospect yeah it's not as good as Empire but it was so mind-blowingly great when I first saw it that it's hard to dislike it too much even now.
― joygoat, Thursday, 16 July 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Jedi has lots of awesome shit in it. Great space battle stuff, the vader-luke lightsaber fight is cool. The first 30 minutes are just plain awesome with Jabba, the Rancor etc.
My main problem with the Ewoks was just the ridiculousness of them defeating the stormtroopers in hand to hand combat. The part where the ewoks and han surprise the stormtroopers on top of the building is just insane and really takes me out of the movie.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Ewoks = VC ?
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
They should have done more VC-style boobytrapping, instead of felling stormptroopers with twig-sized arrows.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yeah
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you may be the only living human being who remembers that detail
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
it was so mind-blowingly great when I first saw it that it's hard to dislike it too much even now.
see I wonder how much this effect will be in play for those who were kids when the prequels come out - or if they will, over time, grow to hate acknowledge them as crap.
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I remembered that Jar-Jar cast the vote that granted complete power to the Emperor and that's really the only reason I can stand the Jar-Jar character at all.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
are going to have a thread next week called the trial of george lucas
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
No, but I'd imagine we'd have some fun with "the execution of george lucas"
― the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
"They should have done more VC-style boobytrapping, instead of felling stormptroopers with twig-sized arrows."
If Lucas has ruined with his CG knives, why in principle can't we make it more awesome by tastefully splicing in footage from Full Metal Jacket like you suggest?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
More ewok tunnels, pitfalls with spikes, and teddy bears punching bound storm troopers in the kidneys while shouting "Didi Mao".
― http://tinyurl.com/lrhdut (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
― Mr. Que, Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:47 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that's basically the plan but i hadn't come up wiht a name yet so thank u q
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Nominating Shakey Mo as stenographer
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
basically all the imperial ground troops were felled because some muppets threw a bunch of small rocks at them
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I still think that:
- aside from Jar-Jar and Anakin, Episode I is good- aside from Hayden Christensen, Episode II is good- aside from Hayden Christensen, Episode III is good
I do recognize that a trilogy where the worst, most detestable (in execution, not plotwise) actor/character is the main focus of the story is problematic but it's also par for the course with the Star Wars movies; if anything, the problem with the prequels is that there is no comparable synergy to the Harrison Ford/Carrie Fisher sparks to get you to ignore how awful the plot and most of the acting is. Had they cast a love interest for Ewan (besides Hayden Christensen), conventional wisdom on these movies would be completely different.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
a love interest for Ewan (besides Hayden Christensen)
bahahahaha
― kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the big problem with this trilogy isn't storywise but execution-wise. there was a sort of looseness to the OG trilogy that the new ones are missing. a lot of the serious shit and the mystical bullshit was around the margins plus it had a character or two built in to call bullshit on it and to suggest that the FORCE wasn't always the answer (cf han solo showing up at the end of ep IV).
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
part of me cannot believe i actually typed that, or typed everything else i've written on this thread
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
conventional wisdom on these movies would be completely different.
Maybe so, but I definitely would still hate them.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
GIS searching for 'obi wan anakin love' leads to odd results.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
we could argue all day about what were the specific problems w/ the prequels, & ultimately i think the answer is basically just that they were shitty movies with shitty actors written and directed by a chinless goofball
that being said imo the biggest gap btw 4/5/6 and 1/2/3 is that 4/5/6 were pretty FUNNY, like basically every main good guy except luke and obi wan is comic relief and han/leia/3p0 are actually pretty hilar, and in an actual non-slapstick adult humor kind of way, where as 1/2/3's humor is derived basically from unfunny racist cgi aliens
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
occasionally a robot will fall over!
― To me real-life abortion is far better than video games with ideals. (goole), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
what a disaster for robotry
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
the problems with the prequels are all about execution--from story to script, as a director of actors, and in creating images that people might actually want to look at. max is also otm the prequels were heavily juvenilized and their tone is pretty much totally divorced from the originals.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah basically han solo taking the piss out of everything was essential to the first 3 films and tbh his character's arc was by far the most interesting, but then it dead-ended when he got frozen and apparently lost his ability to do anything other than lead midget furries around a forest
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I would like to offer my services for the upcoming trial. I am unsure as to how I can best be of service, but I have legal training.
― NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i knew the prequels were gonna be shit when the very first trailer for ep I showed a thrilling shot of boring-looking robots cresting a grassy ridge
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i knew the prequels were gonna be shit as soon as that crazy galactic senate trade shit started scrolling across the screen and then the racist cgi aliens showed up
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't mind them running with the idea that the mystical Force is always the answer in the prequels, given when they happen in the story and who the main characters are; it would have been odd to have a skeptic running up and going "oh come on, that mumbo-jumbo that btw is the main peacekeeping force of the galactic gvt and flexes its muscle regularly on dissidents is just a pile of handewavey crap" given the prevalence of the Jedi in the life of the Republic. I do kind of mind that they cast a total knob as Anakin in all three movies and then didn't minimize his dialogue or have much cooler characters do all of his heavy-lifting for him. There was a real lack of coherence in the prequel trilogy that isn't there in the originals; you have the good guys (Rebels with Han assist) and you have the bad guys (Vader and the Empire) and they are basically constant throughout all three movies; not having those distinct sides probably made the threat too diffuse (Palpatine and his one follower doesn't generate the same level of threat to the viewer and all of the Republic separatists were too disconnected and uncoordinated to come across as a credible threat).
Plus Anakin was a tool.
And yet, I still like these movies.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
"the prequels were heavily juvenilized"
Huh? But these have always been movies about lazer swords and pew pew pew!There's some argument somewhere justifying adult criticism of children's books that I used to accept but now, not so sure. Please help reaffirm my faith that old folk have any business critquing movies like SW, other than normal parental concerns like it'll rot their brains and turn them into space-republicans.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
but then it dead-ended when he got frozen and apparently lost his ability to do anything other than lead midget furries around a forest
have u ever been frozen and used as interior decoration? that's some traumatic shit.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
simply not making eps 1-3 story and characters good/interesting/fun enough
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
as max pointed out the humor in 1-3 (or at least 1 and 2 as i never saw 3) is more juvenile and slapsticky, one of the main characters in 1 is a child, another could not possibly be enjoyed by anyone who is not a child.
there is nothing about 4 and 5 that says "this is for kids" to me, laser swords incl.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
this is a real lego
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SD4eU30CWiY/SOHKah_LfMI/AAAAAAAAAxA/zb3AG210TE0/s320/Lego+Star+Wars+Mini-Figure+Han+Solo+In+Carbonite+Block.jpg
― kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I think it's funny that 4-6 have simplistic kiddie plotting with adultish performances and 1-3 have overcomplicated adult plotting with kiddie performances.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
the idea that obi-wan having a girlfriend could have saved these movies is jedi-master-level wishful thinking
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
the point being that the original 3 are just as crappy and the thing that saves them is two good actors with good chemistry doing a conflicted love story and how there's no parallel with the one good actor who gets a significant amount of screentime in the prequels
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
"the originals sucked too" argument does not fly with me.
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
if i was going to write a list of "things that saved the first three star wars movies," "han and leias romance" (which takes up like what maybe 15 minutes of screen time across the trilogy??) would be a lot lower than say "light sabers" and "golden gay robot"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
haa i was about to make this point. or, more to the point, hating the prequels has led me to basically hating the whole star wars industry complex thing outright.
― goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess you could throw "more concerted efforts to kill the annoying lead character" in there, too
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
alec guinness, worlds that seem real and lived-in rather than CGI, mysteries hinted at rather than spelled out (the point upthread about the clone wars just being hinted at and sounding all the more epic for being a tossed-off mention vs the actual depiction of the clone wars is a good one)
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
the overall tone of the two sets of movies is just totally, completely different imo.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i would say the major difference between the two sets of films is that the originals are awesome fun lighthearted but just serious enough imaginative epics that everyone loves and the new ones are boring pompous racist shitstains that every hates.
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjIM0-BoH0o
― DavidM, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
also the originals were creating a mythology and backstory out of necessity as they went while the prequels felt, for whatever reason, totally burdened by that mythology and backstory (which led to retarded shit like young anakin meeting r2d2).
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I do admit it's kind of funny how R2D2 and C-3P0 spend all of that time with Luke and never once mention that they knew his father.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
didnt threeps have his memory wiped?
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i actually thought the idea of them being continuing characters throughout the whole jammy was kind of a cool idea, like the series was ultimately about THEM... too bad that stuff sucked
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
wouldn't it be awesome to have prequel prequels, where we find out how 3PO and R2D2 met
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
it's like everything that should not have been linked up between the two series was, and everything that needed to be was not
― Kashyyyk Goood Frriieends (goole), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I just want to reiterate that I agree with almost every criticism in this thread except for the racism accusations but I still like the prequels.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
we are not going to stop until we have ilx-approved treatments for a different set of prequels aren't we
― goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe we can get dan lacey to storyboard for us
― goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I once asked something along these lines in a thread about the prequels, basically wondering how if like everyone from the original 3 was somehow passing through the new ones, not even any of the robots were like "hey, you know what's funny is, umm, so I met your dad once?" -- There was a long strand-weaving explanation about memory-wiping and coincidence that was easier to just accept than actually think about
― nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
to wikipedia!
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
However, C-3PO becomes a witness to his maker's turn to the dark side of the Force when he accompanies Padmé to Mustafar and Anakin, now the Sith Lord Darth Vader, uses the Force to choke her into unconsciousness. When Obi-Wan's duel with Vader moves to the interior of the facility on Mustafar, C-3PO and R2-D2 take it upon themselves to get the injured Senator aboard her cruiser. When Obi-Wan returns to the ship, C-3PO pilots it to the asteroid facility of Polis Massa and witnesses Padmé give birth to the Skywalker twins, Luke and Leia, and die shortly afterward. C-3PO and R2-D2 fall into the custody of Bail Organa, who orders that C-3PO's memories be wiped on the Tantive IV in order to protect the twins from Palpatine and Vader, and the Empire that has taken over the galaxy.[6]
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I've met a fair number of people who have worked with George Lucas at LucasFilm or ILM, and let's just say that they never have anything positive to say about him.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah i forgot that anakin MADE c-3p0 which is just the height of what a less cultured man than myself might call gaywaddery
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Especially if they study the kinds of shoes Lucas tends to wear.
xpost
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i would like a cut of the prequels with all the sound effects retained but pretty much all of the dialogue muted. that is the kind of technology Lucas should've concentrated on after THX (esp. as he said himself he wanted kids to understand what was going on in the films without having to rely on the dialogue, not that that explains it's general poorness).
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
(keep the music too yes)
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i would like a cut of the prequels with all the sound effects retained but pretty much all of the dialogue muted
Half the complaints about Jar Jar and other aliens in the movie would have been taken care of if they'd gone the route with Greedo, Jabba, etc. in the originals and had them speak in Ben Burtt-invented languages with appropriate subtitles, I figure.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I liked the conceit of two lowliest characters being the true heroes of the series, and I wish Lucas had made them more self-serving and avaricious like in Hidden Fortress. It would have been neat for the prequels to see them in the employ of Palpatine, then defecting to rebels after some bumbling infraction makes them fear for their lives. Along the way R2 can spot the plans for the Death Star and swipe them hoping for riches on the black market. C3P0 catches him and demands a 60/40 cut and amusing bot slapping ensues.
Hey let's play game -- 70s trilogy or 90s trilogy?
'The loudness, the smash-and-grab editing, the relentless pacing drive every idea from your head; for young audiences “Star Wars” is like getting a box of Cracker Jack which is all prizes.'
'Lucas has got the tone of bad movies down pat: you never catch the actors deliberately acting badly, they just seem to be bad actors'
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Ben Burtt invented Swahili?
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I was thinking more Huttese.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Burtt also invented Urdu.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
that is the kind of technology Lucas should've concentrated on after THX (esp. as he said himself he wanted kids to understand what was going on in the films without having to rely on the dialogue, not that that explains it's general poorness).― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:47 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:47 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
am i crazy or do i not remember lucas talking about how he wanted the prequels to effectively be silent movies, which is why the dialogue is so artless and perfunctory i guess
kael quote, so that's the original trilogy imo
― cankles, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Kael actually loved The Empire Strikes Back, disliked SW, and despised the one with the Ewoks.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I've met a fair number of people who have worked with George Lucas at LucasFilm or ILM
I think most everyone here works on ILM! Or at least contributes.
― kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xp 'loved' Empire seems like a stretch, but she rightfully pointed out that it was the most imaginative and artfully made of the movies
― cankles, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
there's no star wars poll? like which one of the three is the best? it's #2, right?
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
of course it's V
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
a Star Wars poll would just force us to do our routines one more time.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Do you know what, I say "use your HATRED Anakin" all the time. the Viceroy picked up one of those kids picture books that has 10 buttons that make noise and did a PERFECT job recreating III with it. "Use your HATRED Anakin" "I must return to Naboo" "volcano sounds" "I must return to Naboo"
― kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
and "NOOOOOO"
nah-we'd be talking about highlights rather than talking about what makes the new ones suck balls
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I wouldn't hold your breath there...
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
oh right--sorry forgot the crazy number scheme
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:49 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah none of that happens in the prequels does it?! that stuff was so cool. how does a man get so much lest trusting of his audience as he gets older...
― goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
A poll of our least favorite bit of Lucas dialogue would be sweet, though.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
there's probably more than fifty chunks of bad dialog though
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
like i'm trying to think of GOOD dialog
some of chewbacca's musings, certainly
flububu
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
The theatrical rescreening of the original trilogy was a revelation in how blatantly awful Luke was. I was rooting for him to get eaten in the ice cave.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
he's our cocky flyboy
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I liked that one song the cantina band played
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I think any "great dialog" poll is going to be all Han, Leia and Vader with a couple of Lando quotes thrown
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
laugh it up fuzzball
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh the only actor who manages to pull off his dialogue 100% convincingly throughout the entire series is alec guinness
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
which is a miracle if you actually read what he says, rather than listen to him say it
but then again guinness wasn't necessarily reliant upon having a decent director, the dude sleepwalked through that role beautifully
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
It's weird to roll one's eyes and laugh out loud at the same time.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
how does a man get so much lest trusting of his audience as he gets older...
my guess = did not originally quite conceive of his product as being "for children," was gradually convinced that it was, then later put awkward position of trying to make product that was both "for children" AND "for adult geeks"
― nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting theory but mine is that he is a sociopath
― goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I think if someone finds an animated GIF of a beardo fucking a gigantic pile of money, you will have a more accurate representation of what was going through Lucas's head
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
beardo shot first!
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I think of the difference between Star Wars and Ewoks really being the drift from "I am making a sort of B-movie sci-fi fun-action epic" to "I am also part of a newish genre of fantastical entertainment children enjoy, so something should be small and fuzzy"
― nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
animated GIF of an Ewok fucking a pile of C3PO
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
also what is the difference between these two things, really? weren't B movies like designed for kids, originally for Saturday afternoons at the Bijou?
I am making a sort of B-movie sci-fi fun-action epic" to "I am also part of a newish genre of fantastical entertainment children enjoy,
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
You know, they could have played the Ewoks exactly as they did and no one would have complained if they'd added scenes with them eating the fallen Stormtrooper clones.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man cannibal Ewoks would be golden
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think it's cannibalism if ewoks eat humans. just dinner.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I think of the difference between Star Wars and Ewoks really being the drift from "I want to impress and show up my buddies Steven and Francis" to "I rule and want to make more and more shitloads of money and who cares what anybody thinks"
― nabisco, Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://evilewoks.ytmnd.com/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5XG1nSlxuI&feature=related
now imagine them passing around fingers and munching on them in the midst of this
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
they already have the heads near the beginning of the song, just take that next step and have the human allies kind of afraid of them
http://hawtaction.com/2008/08/20/GeorgeLucas.jpg
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://blog.gamer20.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/george_lucas.jpg
La-de-da-de-dahKILL THEMLa-de-da-de-dahEAT NOWEAT THE HUMAN SCUMEAT THE HUMAN SCUMMMMMMM!
"Directed by DAVID LYNCH"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i love those fuzzy bastards
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
btw listening to this over and over will make you slightly crazy
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Episode VIIThreat of the Ewoks
It is a period of fuzzy bastards...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
It's striking how these movies have bad-ass themes like the main theme and the Imperial theme... and they also have "Yub Nub".
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
CANNIBALS
At three a.m. he can’t take it anymore.
"Jedi?" he says loudly into the darkness.
"Hnnnh...wha?" says the archaeologist next to him, jerking alert from a deep sleep.
"I can't believe Jedi was your favorite," Jack says, feeling his balled-up jacket under his cheek as he turns his head to look at Daniel.
Daniel groans and rolls over, pressing his face against Sam's shoulder and pulling his own jacket over his head. "Make him stop, Sam."
"Even Teal'c thinks it's lame," Jack says.
"Indeed," Teal'c's voice echoes from the corner of their cell, where he sits attempting kel'no'reem. "The use of a second Death Star was derivative at best, although a number of the action sequences were quite entertaining."
"Oh, come on," Sam says, sounding a little muzzy. "The Ewoks were adorable."
Daniel mumbles something Jack can't hear, between the sound-absorbing quality of Sam's shoulder and the balled-up jacket Daniel still holds over one ear. "What was that, o tasteless one?"
"The Ewoks were cannibals!" Daniel says, sitting up suddenly and throwing his jacket at Jack. "When Luke, Han, and Chewbacca are taken prisoner by the Ewoks, you can see a skinned Ewok being roasted on a spit over a fire in the background. The Ewoks are the perfect example of a race that is underestimated and assumed to be ethical merely because they're cute, when all evidence shown suggests they engage in tribal warfare and devour their enemies."
"Cannibals? Daniel, they're like little teddy bears!" Carter says, aghast.
"Daniel Jackson, I believe you may be right." Teal'c sounds surprised. "I will view that film with a new perspective."
"Yeah, if the Pygmies of Planet Propaganda ever let us out. I think Daniel was making a little reference to our situation here."
"I said there was something fishy. You thought they were cute," Daniel scowls, flopping back onto the floor.
There's a moment of silence in the cell. Just when Daniel thinks he might get some sleep, Jack says, "So, if this is Jedi, do I get to be Han?"
"I am not Princess Leia!" Sam says, seeing immediately where this is going.
"You know, Teal'c, you'd make a great Lando."
Daniel swears he can hear Teal'c's eyebrow raise. He lets out a little sob, rolls onto his side, and prays for unconsciousness.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
that's true, they're not entirely dissimilar, but I do think there are some small formal differences between making a "fun" sci-fi/action movie and a fantasy thing that's aimed at kids -- or at least at this point I think those tend to be two strains that have to be balanced out in movies that do both (like, say, Spiderman movies, or the way the Harry Potter movies have hoped to move from one toward the other) ... I guess you could also put it in terms of demographics, like whether you're skewing toward 15-year-olds or 10-year-olds, or questions like that.
certainly there was stuff at the time that was totally both (Superman movies, for instance), but part of what I mean, really, is that ... wasn't it sort of during the course of the original trilogy that the idea of "high-budget, non-animated, fantastical movie aimed at kids" kinda firmed up and became more of a thing? like kind of a boom around, say, E.T. or The Dark Crystal or whatever? which somehow accounts in my head for the tone of Return of the Jedi versus the two before it.
― nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
wasn't it sort of during the course of the original trilogy that the idea of "high-budget, non-animated, fantastical movie aimed at kids" kinda firmed up and became more of a thing? like kind of a boom around, say, E.T. or The Dark Crystal or whatever?
Definitely a demi-trend. The Neverending Story would count too.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
like even in terms of money and popularity, surely it seemed more like you could sell a shitload of Ewok merchandise in 1984 than it would have in 1977
― nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't this whole merchandising boom happen BECAUSE of the original trilogy?
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, think about how many Star Wars toys were put out there before the Ewoks even showed up.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
probably in large part, yes! but that's what I mean about the guy possibly following his own success out in that direction and being like "hell yeah, if that's working, let's put teddy bears in the last one"
(note: I like Ewoks fine, I'm just saying)
― nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i think that has to do with the ewoks being cute and cuddly and more appealing to the masses--i knew someone who claimed that the ewoks were invented just so lucas could make $$$ selling teddy bears. star wars toys were insanely popular straight out of the gate.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
What the hell:
Ewok Festival of Love is an event. Ewoks are small creatures that are native to the forest moon of Endor. The trees of the forest provide not only physical shelter to the Ewoks, but also give the tribe a sense of protection as the trees watch over them.The Ewoks live in harmony with nature and forage for food in the lush vegetation. Camby berries are given freely during the Festival of Love, celebrated once a year to honor the kinship and love between tribe members. During the festival, the Ewoks present this gift of their hard-earned food to other members of the tribe to demonstrate trust and acceptance.As the Ewoks celebrate the Festival of Love, tribe members prepare meals, dance, and sing traditional songs, such as this ancestral chant often heard drifting through the treetops of the forest moon: Dugun duca lula ludia nuna, dounga, luna nudia!
The Ewoks live in harmony with nature and forage for food in the lush vegetation. Camby berries are given freely during the Festival of Love, celebrated once a year to honor the kinship and love between tribe members. During the festival, the Ewoks present this gift of their hard-earned food to other members of the tribe to demonstrate trust and acceptance.
As the Ewoks celebrate the Festival of Love, tribe members prepare meals, dance, and sing traditional songs, such as this ancestral chant often heard drifting through the treetops of the forest moon: Dugun duca lula ludia nuna, dounga, luna nudia!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean INSANELY popular
goddamn you Ned.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.starwarstoymuseum.com/star_wars_toys.html
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
luna nudia
you have ruined my entire life
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Uh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdd0edT-BeE
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Behind the scenes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhyWRaSaPig
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
okay PHEW that was a Star Wars Galaxies thing and not a real life thing
nude Star Wars fans yub nubbing under the pale moonlight was going to give me night terrors
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
This is some sort of furry/Star Wars crossover, isn't it.
― Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
The 'guest star' in the video seems only appropriate.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
furry/sw/ilx crossover
― "he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Title: Ewok Murder Rampage: A Hero Emerges
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
you know, the Ewok thing would be better if Billy Dee did the whole thing as opposed to the a capella reject
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
http://circusfiretragedy.com/FanArt/ewok_murder_rampage.jpg
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
my new favorite band
Yes.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Cinematic glory.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
why the fuck did I read that Ewok story, there was no way it could be better than "Ewok Murder Rampage"
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
'Some warriors believe that eating a beast transfers it's soul into you. That would explain the contented joy one feels after consuming a fresh, well-barbecued Ewok'
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
1 package Boba Fett's Ass-terburner Hot Spice ™ (optional)
No.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
ARGH:
http://craziestgadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ewok-soap.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
that soap looks... used
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
that soap makes you smell like an ewok
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Flashing back a few months.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
mmmm... chocolate-y soap
― kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh good grief:
Posted by Andrew Zilch on April 30, 2009 at 7:52 pmHaving fought for the fair treatment of Ewoks with my "Ewok Gospel" video, I am deeply hurt by Mr. Colbert's recent anti-Ewok hate crime.As a result, I just posted an open letter to Mr. Colbert on my site — andrewzilch.com. Please help me bring this monster to justice.Yub-nub!!
Having fought for the fair treatment of Ewoks with my "Ewok Gospel" video, I am deeply hurt by Mr. Colbert's recent anti-Ewok hate crime.
As a result, I just posted an open letter to Mr. Colbert on my site — andrewzilch.com. Please help me bring this monster to justice.
Yub-nub!!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
mdk
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/e/e9/Dexter_Jettster_NEGTC.jpg/180px-Dexter_Jettster_NEGTC.jpg
― DavidM, Thursday, 16 July 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
not to be captain-save-a-neck, but here's a riff-in-progress on what makes 77 Star Wars so great: http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/1241
Same guy also did an excellent shot-by-shot analysis of The Shining: http://mstrmnd.com/log/802
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Good analysis, if though a bit everything-and-the-kitchen-sink. I suppose that my problem with everything after 1977 Star Wars is that Lucas saw it as a green light to load up future movies with even more half-assed remembrances of The Hero with a Thousand Faces.
I suppose it's time to link to David Brin's "Star Wars despots" article again: http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main/
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 July 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't see why we must make a case for Star Wars' greatness to consider it worth watching. It's a pretty good movie, sometimes very exciting, often much worse than that, about which it's impossible for a certain generation (mine) to remain objective.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I actually own this book, in which Brin figures heavily:
http://www.sff.net/people/John-C-Wright/cover%20Star%20wars%20on%20Trial.jpg
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 16 July 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
It didn't hold up so well the last time I saw it, but I still maintain that The Last Starfighter is better than the original Star Wars. Like Quiznos is better than Subway.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 17 July 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah--it's fun, exciting, often clever, pretty charming, has an ace villain, and I (along with millions of others) watched it at just the right age.
― Great Expectorations (James Morrison), Friday, 17 July 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.scifitv.com.au/Blog/2009/07/jake-lloyd-exclusive-ten-years-after-ep-one/
― Attack Attack! and Philosophy (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
it seems like the unrelenting awfulness of Episode I turned him into a pretty cool guy.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
haha ya!
that's kinda nice.
― katherine NAGL (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
woah he seems a bit bitter about high school and college. and the rocking back and forth is weird.
― Aqua Teen Cunga Force (blueski), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
you're reading too much into it.
― katherine NAGL (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I just saw Crystal Skull on Bluray and that shit is almost as bad as Episode I. I couldn't fucking believe it.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
you gotta watch it on regular DVD
― katherine NAGL (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
cgi gophers don't really hold up well in hd
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
it really comes into its own on telesync avi
― Aqua Teen Cunga Force (blueski), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
It actually might be better on VHS because the plasticity of the Skull wouldn't come through so much.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
remember guys, if the biggest gripes are about how unrealistic the effects look that's not actually bad going
― Aqua Teen Cunga Force (blueski), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
the effects are probably the only fun thing in the movie. My only positive memory of the movie is that the Mushroom Cloud looked cool.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
"it really comes into its own on telesync avi"You are probably joking but you are very right!
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
never did make that poll
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:45 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― max, Monday, 16 November 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link
:D
― fel (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
actual LOLs re-reading this. i still dont know why it was so funny... something about shakey's personality just made it extra-rofly
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:49 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^ best moment
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread would make my poll of best ILE threads.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't reread this right now (lol ZING) but I remember getting shushed in the library at the time
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread is amazing. Did you guys realise that he made changes to the movies *before* the 1990s?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases:
# On Hoth, right after C-3PO tells R2 to "Switch off", R2 gives out a little "blurp".# When Luke finally collapses in the snow, he lets out a grunt as he lands on his face.# Han says "until I can get the shelter up" instead of "until I can get the shelter built."# Luke says an additional "Ben... Dagobah..." just before Han says, "and I thought they smelled bad on the outside."# When C-3PO tells Luke "It's so good to see you fully functional again", Luke replies, "Thanks, 3PO.
and so on and so on and so on...
This is all for the '70mm' edition whatever the hell that is/was. So basically he'd been tinkering with them since they first came out!
― piscesx, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Wasn't 'Episode IV' only added to the opening crawl in later prints of the initial run?
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:59 (4 months ago)
i think the only really bad thing here was the monkey shell-dweller dudes.
― LaMonte, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Half the complaints about Jar Jar and other aliens in the movie would have been taken care of if they'd gone the route with Greedo, Jabba, etc. in the originals and had them speak in Ben Burtt-invented languages with appropriate subtitles, I figure.― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:49 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:49 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
OTM. I can clearly remember on opening day for Episode 1 having those two green aliens in the beginning talking to each other using silly voices instead of made up languages with subtitles and having a very bad feeling about where the rest of the film was going...
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
No-one has mentioned the part where Obi-Wan jumps on the back of a space lizard in Episode 3 and the movie fulfills its threat to become a videogame cut scene.
# Han says "until I can get the shelter up" instead of "until I can get the shelter built."
Clearly a change that needed to be made.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 08:32 (fourteen years ago) link
My "fuck they made it into a videogame" moment was in ep 2, R2 flying around the robot construction place trying to save 3PO. Or whatever, but fuck if I'm watching it again to refresh my memory.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
It is that bad. In the same scene Padme is on a conveyor belt and has to duck under a series of Thwomps, and I thought "this is Mario except everything's rusty"
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link
that being said imo the biggest gap btw 4/5/6 and 1/2/3 is that 4/5/6 were pretty FUNNY, like basically every main good guy except luke and obi wan is comic relief and han/leia/3p0 are actually pretty hilar, and in an actual non-slapstick adult humor kind of way, where as 1/2/3's humor is derived basically from unfunny racist cgi aliens― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:34 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:34 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is really, really true.
In general there's a crucial loss of instincts about what would actually be ENTERTAINING in a movie like this, which were really strong in the first three films. Setting aside Empire, which brings some (well-done) heaviness, the OG trilogy are just damn FUN, raggedy, cowboy fun, not forced amusement-park pod-racing fun.
The trilogy also screws itself by being a story about people on the top (Jedi) who very, veryyyyyyyy slowly realize there's a needlessly elaborate and dull conspiracy to unseat them. As an arc, you can look at that from a distance and see a story there, but minute by minute it doesn't really generate much tension. Whereas in the first movies, our heroes are always ON THE RUN from a threat that's way bigger than them - I mean even from that shot of Leia's ship with the GIANT FUCKING STAR DESTROYER bearing down on it - you know who to sympathize with from the get-go, and that underdog thing never really lets up. They're a scruffy, unlikely bunch of misfits going up against the whole Empire, sneaking around, wearing disguises, riding a beat-up old ship and teaming up with anybody they can find who's with them. It's just more satisfying than Jedi dithering over the necessary 2/3 vote to override a veto, or whatever.
Assuming the prequels HAD to be made, which clearly they didn't because everybody was fine without them, it seems like it would have made sense to follow the first movies' success - screw the details about how the Empire comes to exist and just tell me a fun story for chrissakes. I'm not sure what that story would be but this wasn't it. I've been plowing through Stephen King's Dark Tower series lately, and there's some interesting parallels. Overall the series is pure candy, a light romp through various genres/archetypes, a motley team up against unstoppable evil, all of that. Our heroes are led by Roland the Gunslinger, a Clint Eastwood type who is also the last of a bygone era when his kind policed and protected the world from evil, while going on a lot about a vague universal power that guides their destiny (ie, they were Jedi Knights). There was a long gap in publication after the first three, and the next to come out was basically a prequel book, with most of its page count given over to an extended flashback to those bygone days when Roland was just one of many gunslingers and the world looked to them for protection.
The difference between Dark Tower IV and "The Phantom Menace" is that Stephen King (another awkward-looking nerd who came to power in the 70s on the back of THRILL POWERED entertainment fiction) can be bothered to make the flashback story actually interesting. He doesn't try to tell us the entire saga of Roland's life, he just zooms in on a pivotal mission he went on in his youth, a mission on which everything changed, he became a man, first fell in love, etc, etc. And while we've gone back to the time when the gunslingers were generally still a force to be reckoned with, Roland in particular is still a fresh-faced youth, capable of making mistakes he doesn't make in the present.
I would bet money that George Lucas read this book somewhere in the process of generating the new films (book came out in '97) but he missed the point. We should have gotten flawed, screwup Jedi getting in over their heads, maybe gradually getting their shit together but realizing too late the evil that they've stirred up and how long the odds against them are. A lot of those elements were floating around the edges of the prequels but they were swamped by unthrilling action sequences, an uninvolving conspiracy plot, and high-school drama club acting in the central character. And what the hell was Obi-Wan's character arc?
haha, I really need to stop, this is turning into like every internet post about the prequels ever
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure what that story would be but this wasn't it.
Shoulda followed Anakin much more closely from the start, as a wild, talented kid from a bad background trying to prove his mettle in the haughty, rarefied world of the Jedi. I would've had him as a tough street kid. That would've had much more dramatic potential than some brat plucked out of nowhere because Obi Wan recognised his magic powers.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
ps if anyone finds my post horrifyingly nerdy let me remind you that many Bothans died to obtain that individual building data from the campus
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I can sorta imagine this street-tough Anakin movie - - - but given how lousy the actual Anakin turned out to be I'm hesitant. My gut says the movies should have been more about Obi-Wan, or at least really told from his perspective.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I've just been thinking about it a bit more, and actually I would've had the entire first movie being about Anarkin's efforts to become a Jedi, with no mention of the Sith or Trade Federations at all till Episode II.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
The story might have been tolerable without all the awful slapstick and tomfoolery, of which Jar Jar was the main culprit but he wasn't alone - e.g. Anakin destroying the space station by pure chance in ep 1. The originals may or may not have been kids films but either way they succeeded without any of that absolute cringeworthy nonsense. RotJ excepted.
― George Mucus (ledge), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
padme character should have been a lady jedi instead of just a blank love interest
they should have been rivals/love interests
and like i said upthread obi-wan basically should have been han solo
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Could be good actually - - or maybe Obi-Wan is a kind of promising but distractable and doubting Jedi, with a girlfriend and a "real life" that makes him doubt in the power of the Force until it's too late to save his buddy from the Dark Side, or something like that. Anyway, the doubting/cynical aspect of Han could have done some good in these movies and it would be interesting if Anakin is actually the MORE promising Jedi, not just in terms of his midichlorians and lifting-up-boxes abilities but in his actual faith in the system.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
It would've been good to have some sense that the Jedi were on the wain and maybe becoming corrupt and too powerful, rather than being the morally perfect supermen they're presented as - so that the whole Empire debacle was kind of needed as a reset button, so the Jedi could go back to their original purpose. That would make sense of the 'balance to the force' prophecy, which is never really explained.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:04 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark
^^ this fits with my sad dream of eps 1-3 as a political story about the rise of a terrible gov't. anakin as the tyro with a chip on his shoulder, equally hungry to make the old world perfect, and wipe the old world away
― goole, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
it would be interesting if Anakin is actually the MORE promising Jedi, not just in terms of his midichlorians and lifting-up-boxes abilities but in his actual faith in the system.
That would have been interesting, because in Ep.I Anakin is all "I wanna be a Jedi! Jedi's are badass!". So maybe he could have gradually found out that his dream job wasn't so great, that a lot of it was guarding diplomats and other boring tediousity. Same thing with Obi-Wan - he goes from stopping an invading army to getting sass-talked by a Jedi librarian. And in the end Palpatine's plans succeed because he's able to keep focusing on his game long after everyone else has nodded off or got bored.
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
you think lucas should have made it MORE boring??
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
That would have been like, the first half of Ep.II, then gradually winding up to Anakin's transformation into Vader over the next one and a half movies.
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
you guys are suggesting a rad 13-episode HBO miniseries not a rad 3-movie sci-fi trilogy
― max, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
most scifi epics would be better as HBO mini-series anyway
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
anything about the politics of the galactic senate i would totally watch but only if i can get really into it over the course of four months
― max, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
david simon's THE COUNCIL
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Agreed that on paper a lot of these ideas don't necessarily sound more thrilling than what we got - I think we're taking it as a given that whatever the story was, it needed to be worked out through awesome set pieces, chases, near misses, the occasional light-saber fight, betrayals, shocking revelations, and cool aliens. But the story itself needs a compelling structure, and I think these are good for that, better than what we got ("The Council doesn't trust me and my wife is having bad dreams, I guess I'll start killing children").
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
See Phantom Menace could sound compelling on paper ("A small peaceful planet is being invaded and no one knows about it! We have to get to Coruscant and warn the council before it's too late!"). But there was never any real sense of threat, and that looong Tatooine detour slowed the plot to a crawl.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
okay I think I hurt myself stifling laughter from rereading this thread
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
as a huge fan of the first 3 who never saw the new 3, can i just ask is there a clear outright winner for the title of BEST of these? is there an EMPIRE... of the 3 that even those who were anti like maybe a good chunk of?
― piscesx, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Revenge of the Sith is pretty clearly the best.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I would rep for "Attack" if it didn't have the stupid meadow scene in it, but yeah "Revenge of the Sith" is pretty unambiguously the best realized of the three.
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Seconded - "Attack" has some actually enjoyable sequences, basically everything to do with Obi-Wan, but "Revenge" comes the closest to a movie you'd want to watch again.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link
basically everything to do with Obi-Wan
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link
the first one is c-span with special effects and a quick channel change to a weird car race in saudi arabia
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link
basically i think the ultimate obi-wan story for the first three would for him to have been this reckless, wisecracking guy. probably should have been older than ewan mcgregor, imo. like s1ocki said, the han solo of the prequels. anakin should have been more similar to luke skywalker in terms of age and maybe even very basic story arc, i think. i dunno.
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link
could get behind a story arc that gave us all obi-wan for the first movie, tbh, with no anakin at all.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
In the eighties I had a subscription to Science fiction mag Orbit. They wrote a story on what might have happened before the original trilogy. Their idea was that Anakin was a promising Jedi. So promising even, that he became cocky. So cocky even, that he thought he could destroy the Emperor all by himself. The Emperor was an upcoming crime lord, slowly destroying the peace and justice in the galaxy. The Emperor of course slashed Anakin to pieces. But instead of simply killing Anakin, he let him live and forced him - Anakin, the most promising Jedi ever - to become his personal slave and servant: Darth Vader. The ultimate humiliation. Sith Lords thrive on hate and hate makes them prisoners of the dark side. Vader of course hated the Emperor, which meant he would never be able to escape him or destroy him. His hate made him the impressive, sadistic dark lord we would come to know from the original trilogy, which helped the Emperor in his takeover of the galaxy.
The motivation for this story was, that in Return of Jedi, Luke tries to work on Vader's feelings, by stating that he did not accept that Vader is his father but that he accepted that Vader was once Anakin Skywalker. Vader replies that this name no longer has any meaning for him. This implies that by now Vader has accepted his fate. This acceptance, this resignation, allowed his hate to tone down; because only caring people hate. In short, Vader had let go his feelings (as Yoda claimed every Jedi must be able to). This allowed him to get in touch again with the good side of the force, with Anakin Skywalker, which enabled him to destroy the Emperor and redeem himself.
I still like this idea.
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I forgot: the Emperor kept Vader alive through the force. So if Vader tried to kill him, he himself would die to. At the end of Return of the Jedi, he was at ease with this fact and did what he had to do, and finally could do.
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link
because only caring people hate
what a wonderful world that would be, eh? I routinely hate the fucker in the queue ahead of me, tbh
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, this is movie rhetoric. Bear with me.
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
always saw the emperor/vader dynamic in IV-VI as a direct rip of the Saruman/Wormtongue relationship at the end of LOTR
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link
disclaimer for george's lawyers- there are clearly no parallels to be drawn whatsoever from mr lucas's masterwork and tolkien's sprawling mess.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link
which, let's not forget, didn't even exist until the late 90's AFAIK
From John Hodgman's Phantom Menace:
"at this point you will want to know what is the solution to the jar jar problem. i understand. everyone hates jar jar. in fact everything in my screenplay flows from this very simple fix and that is: replace him with sebulba."
someone transcribe this!http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=963
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link
you do it
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm real glad that to this day i still have absolutely no idea what jar jar binks sounds like or what he says.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
to be honest it becomes a super bummer here:"there's a reason I would work on my screenplay while falling asleep, at night, dozing in the hospital while my mother was dying, or when i was awake in bed in october 2001 listening for planes over NYC"
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
imo he should have followed luke's arc almost exactly up to the point where he chooses bad where luke chose good
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
the greatest crime of george lucas is tricking me into writing fan fiction :(
― Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
At least you're not writing jarjar slash...
I would rep for "Attack" if it didn't have the stupid meadow scene in it
The meadow scene is funny and I enjoy it more than I do any other scene from the prequels. I think I know all of the lines from it, being so memorably bad.
― ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it gives us an insight into just how hard lucas would find it to chat to the opposite sex if he wasn't a bajillionaire.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
watching Star Wars on TV now, the 'name the system' line gave me a little lol.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
On ITV1? I stopped after there were two 5 minute breaks within the first half hour.
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah. and then the 15-minute news break. I thought there were broadcast rules that you could only have a break every 45 minutes when showing films? I guess I'd mind more if I hadn't seen it a hundred thousand times already.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I think it's probably signalled the end of my fanatical interest. It's taken a lot though: 1) on ITV1 and cut to pieces with long ad breaks, 2) stupid ITN news break, 3) Lucas's Greedo-shoots-first-Han-steps-on-Jabba's-tail-blah-di-blah cut, 4) shown after ITV1 has shown the three prequels (guess that answers a question upthread about when is some kid going to see them in I-VI order). But still I switched on the TV.
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
you know though, chopped to bits and sprinkled with Lucas's meddling it may be, but the final attack on the Death Star still rocks the fuckin' bells like nothing else in the whole series.
― Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Jedi has the best space battle. The asteroid chase in Empire is pretty fucking intense too.
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, Jedi's insane screen-filling battle is A+. Admiral Ackbar! Hoth attack in Empire also stupendous.
― Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
they changed the advert timing rules about a year ago iirc
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Empire is on next week.Rebel: "Commander, Echo Base is under attack by..." <CUT-TO-AD-BREAK> Katie Price covered in cockroaches(OK so it's not that bad, yet...)
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
totally derails the thread, but this is (a small part of) why when UK people piss and moan about the BBC licence fee I totally disagree. No adverts in films, yo.
― Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
that and the bbc is fucking awesome on so many other levels.
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
£142.50 is a bargain, even if all it meant was not being spammed every ten minutes with commercials that assume I'm a moron.
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I had some fella trying to flog me sky HD for £50 a month yesterday, which puts things in perspective I'd say. Again, it's not really a crime of George Lucas, but I *bet* he is pals with Murdoch. Or at least likes him, they certainly share a marketing ethos.
― Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-5AMapzFWg
― I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 21 November 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
there are no crimes being committed in that video, unless awesomeness is a crime
― fel (latebloomer), Saturday, 21 November 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Rebel: "Commander, Echo Base is under attack by..." <CUT-TO-AD-BREAK> Katie Price covered in cockroaches
I think if I had to come up with the one thing that most confuses me about the UK, it would be Katie Price.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 21 November 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
is THX 1138 his best movie...?
― Owa Tana Siam (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I watched it the other night for the first time in what must be 20 years and its pretty good but kinda empty. struck mainly by two things:
1) even THIS film he had to fuck with. the digitally added stuff is so jarring and glaringly out-of-place. not to mention totally unnecessary. this guy is the most insecure filmmaker of all time.2) what works about this is rather blatantly cribbed from its primary sources - We, 1984, etc. Lucas' major contribution to the genre is almost entirely in terms of design/style. The minimalism, both of the narrative and of the overall look and feel, is great. Of course by the end he doesn't know what to do and just turns it into a stupid chase scene with a completely anticlimactic ending.
― Owa Tana Siam (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Nah.... American Graffiti and Star Wars are better imho
― WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Friday, 4 December 2009 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link
It'd be kinda cool if Lucas went back and digitally added nudity to American Graffiti.
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Most active thred gets this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDB8Q15iUIE
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Rats. Wish Lynch had said yes
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link
what jabba would have done to poor leia in a lynchian ROTJ doesn't bear thinking about
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
a completely anticlimactic ending.
love the ending! final shot is superb
also wish he did not digitally fuck w/ it
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link
*shudder*
the Ewoks were the beginning of the end for moi
― lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link
he showed me many animals and thingsthen he took me for a ride in his ferrarifor a lunch
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I love how it's totally "I knew George Lewcas -- he was the man who made the star war."
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i admire george lucas very much, my lawyer tells me he does wonderful things with bears
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Ewoks included, ROTJ is still better than Dune.
― Stereo no aware (Daruton), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
total "too much time on ILX" moment here
― an terror has occurred (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
;)
― jabba hands, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
"don't you fucking wookie at me!"
― unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
ROTJ is a serious movie with humour coming naturally out of the situations, and unfortunately with the Ewok cuteness tacked on. I got the feeling that Dune is a sci-fi panto more or less deliberately played for LOLs - ie, Sting coming out of a sauna wearing a Harkonnen crest as a codpiece, BvH's death, etc..
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link
dune is a much, much prettier movie to look at tho
― krampus activities (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link
rotj is kinda fugly in some spots
important in an f/x heavy sci-fi epic ya know!
― krampus activities (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
dune is 10000 times better to watch stoned
― max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link
better soundtrack too
did people get offended by the ewoks when they were kids watching ROTJ?
― Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
no. and after watching Caravan Of Courage i immediately rewound the tape and watched again.
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I just accepted them as coming from the same universe that produced all the weird-assed creatures in the first two movies and I still do.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder what kids who first see the '97 version prefer out of Ewoks and that dreadful song they added to the Jabba's Palace scenes
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
My kid saw the '97 version first (at age 4) and for a few weeks would put ROTJ into the DVD player for the sole purpose of watching the Jabba's Palace song over and over again. I was in hell.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Like, I taught you to use the remote and this is how you repay me?
did you let them watch the prequels first?
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
The title of the song is apparently "Jedi Rocks".
xp: I tried to actively discourage Mrs. Kongvsgodzilla from buying the prequels at all, but I failed in that. His favorite Star Wars is Revenge of the Sith.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Really, all of the movies are too long and slowly paced for him to really get into yet.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link
any idea what they think the scariest scene(s) out of the 6 films are? sorry, just quite curious. i don't remember ever finding Darth Vader scary for example (much scarier when he takes his helmet off at the end of ROTJ). As I said before, I think limbless Anakin bursting into flames in ROTS would've freaked me out a LOT if i'd seen that as a child.
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
emperor is pretty scary with the flashing and the lightening and being old and all
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Palpatine was a fucking joke in ROTJ. Even as a kid I was all like, "THIS is the geezer everyone's afraid of?" Throw him down a flight of stairs.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
or just switch off his stairlift halfway down. but his magic was good.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
The bit in ROTS where he turns into Paul Daniels is pretty frightening.
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
he really looks like Gary Oldman in Dracula during the transition to Emperor. that whole stretch is preposterous but actually quite entertaining.
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.galacticbinder.com/images/DarkestMoments/anakin-palpatine-opera.jpg"You're going to like this. Not a lot, but you'll like it. Now say 'Yes Palpatine!' <throws voice> Yes Palpatine!"
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Vader takes off his mask... and it's the lovely Debbie McGee.
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
any idea what they think the scariest scene(s) out of the 6 films are?
He professes to not be scared of anything (at all, full stop). This includes Star Wars. I'll have to ask if he thinks there's anything that's scariest.
I know for a fact that he was extremely scared when Fizzgig got thrown down into that hole in Dark Crystal, though.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I, on the other hand, had to be escorted from the theater when I attended Empire Strikes Back as a child because there had been a statue of Darth Vader in the lobby.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link
As I said before, I think limbless Anakin bursting into flames in ROTS would've freaked me out a LOT if i'd seen that as a child.
OK, last week I went to that Star Wars In Concert deal. One of the selections the orchestra played was "Battle of the Heroes" from the ROTS score, and it was accompanied by video of the big Anakin/Obi-Wan lightsaber fight, lots of Vader footage from ESB and ROTJ, Anakin killing the sandpeople, etc. Plus there were live fire effects on stage. A little kid sitting behind us, about 6-7 years old, got absolutely pants-wetting terrified. He burst into sobs and was crying, "I want my mommy!" It occurred to me that it's very possible that a lot of little-little kids haven't even seen ROTS.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL - that is my kid's favorite scene from that movie! Do you think he'll turn out weird or something?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, when my Dad took me to see ROTJ, I made us leave because somebody was smoking in the theater and I was afraid it would start a fire.
I was "sensitive".
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^
The Star Wars movies I find don't hold up under such sensory-enhanced scrutiny, particularly ROTJ, which at times feels like you are watching a weird daytime TV soap opera.
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Empire is easily the best designed. I think it's a very elegant movie, visually.
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
on the money. It looks wonderful.
― Bill A, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
emperor is pretty scary in a cool sinister-but-wise way in rotj
disturbing scenes for me as a kid - lukes parents black skeleton bones on fire and jabbas palace scene was a bit ooky.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"Your overconfidence is your weakness!""Your faith in your friends is yours!"
Classic comeback, particularly with his sneering offhand delivery.
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ ha yes, a brilliant pwnage.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
"your faith in your friends is yours"
i guess turned out to be his weakness too?
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
here's an underrated howler: "Soon I'll be dead, and you with me."
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Also fond of:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGwDwx10wB4
Seriously, Palpatine rocks the house in Jedi.
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, the faux pussy voice would have enlivened several hundred lines in ROTS.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
The disgruntled expression on ol' Emp's face right after Luke's "I am a Jedi, like my father before me" speech is ace.
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
no he's fucking MIFFED.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6odktXD31s
Luke looks like Richard Chamberlain here.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
disturbing scenes for me as a kid - lukes parents black skeleton bones on fire
Even today that is jarringly graphic by the standards of the other 5 movies, as is the bloody, cut-off arm in the cantina scene.
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
This is the point in the thread where I remind everyone that nowhere in ROTJ is the word "Ewok" ever uttered, and that the only reason any of us even know what an Ewok is is that Lucasfilm's marketing is utterly insidious.
Utterly Insidious should have been the name of an evil Jedi in one of the prequels, BTW.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
It more or less was.
http://www.skywlkr.net/idc/expansions/downloads/wotc/card%20images/darth%20sidious%20e.jpg
― james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
scariest scene by far is luke's vader hallucination where he cuts off his head... so freaky
― 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOKE (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Luke's "I am a Jedi, like my father before me"
haha i love lukes little head nod, to where darth is lay in agony, when he says this
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
The heroes are pretty cruel in this movie. (Luke killing that guy's pet masterblaster; Leia choking fat muppet to death) Has it ever been established in the Star Wars canon exactly why the Empire is the bad guy beyond having a ridiculous military budget?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know the specifics, but I think killing Bothans probably comes into it somewhere.
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't they destroy an entire planet?
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Refusal to lower exorbitant Galactic Capital Gains Tax.
― uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
ALDERAAN... never forget
― donde está mia farrow, fa la la la la, la la la la (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
There's a line in the original Ep IV script about how the Empire are nationalising industry... Just like Obama wants to, look out America!
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Emporer: "Does anyone have any questions?"Moff Random: "Why does the fiscal budget have a deficit of thirty trillion Galactic credits?"<Force lightning vapourises Random>Emporer: "Does anyone have any other questions?"
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
jawas did alderaan
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
The first part of my post is actually true, by the way.
― Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
lolling
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
"Does anyone have any other questions?"
"Have you found Luke Skywalker yet? And do you have any knowledge of the location of the rebel base?"
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Hearts and minds:
http://othersideoftheplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/PBK_Stormtrooper_holding_a_baby_1.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
"Why did you promote Mr. Bronson from Grange Hill to Admiral?"
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
"ALDERAAN... never forget"
Pretty harsh, true, but what else are they gonna do with a Death Star?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Turn it into a shopping mall.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
What would people buy? They all wear the same thing.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
A do-it-yourself midi-chlorian kit.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
My sister told me it works like an insulin injection.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:50 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
very true - that's what people never understood about nazi concentration camps
― donde está mia farrow, fa la la la la, la la la la (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Death Star analog isn't concentration camps; it's Enola Gay.
Well it would have been if they'd won the war.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
― krampus activities (latebloomer), Friday, 18 December 2009 09:35 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/12/17/watch-this-70-minute-video-review-of-star-wars-the-phantom-menace/
this is way too long and kind of annoying but also kind of amazing
― akira goldsman (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 December 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I turned it off after 5 minutes - is there anything worth watching in the other 65
the main thing I took away from it was that this guy has an awesome voice and I wish I could speak like that
― 囧 (dyao), Saturday, 19 December 2009 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I just watched the whole thing, it's devastating - you should at least watch to the end of the first one before giving up. Found the guy's persona pretty annoying at first but came round to it pretty quickly.
― poster x (ledge), Saturday, 19 December 2009 10:25 (fourteen years ago) link
haha I just gave this a second chance and now that I'm getting a sense of his attitude it is getting better (also helps by keeping it on the background while I waste time on ilx)
― =皿= (dyao), Saturday, 19 December 2009 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link
lool at the basement scene
― =皿= (dyao), Saturday, 19 December 2009 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link
amazingly funny line-for-line considering how long it is
― jabba hands, Saturday, 19 December 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link
the slashfilm article treats this like found art
― abanana, Saturday, 19 December 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link
How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:22 PM Bookmark
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:22 PM Bookmark
^^ this is one of those posts where, after you've read it, you can never see the movies in the same way again. So OTM it's not funny.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 December 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
watching the long review - - similar to Angry Video Game Nerd it kinda drags when he's trying to be funny external to the movies....but when he's just going on and on dissecting in detail all the inane crap that adds up to the boring pointlessness of the movie, the LOLs kinda just rack up.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 25 December 2009 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link
The Times quoted an associate of George Lucas, saying the Star Wars director will spend $10 million to update his 1977 movie into 3-D.
“George cannot leave it alone,” said the unnamed source. “He is salivating at the opportunity to play with it again. This time the Death Star is really going to explode all over the audience and leave them gasping.”
― CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
gross
― living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
explode all over the audience and leave them gasping.
― NotEnough, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
He is salivating at the opportunity to play with it again.
Well, there you go.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://sur-net.com/www/coollinks/images/GALLAGHER.gif
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
After a few years of complying with Gallagher’s conditions, Ron began blurring the line between his act and that of his brother. He would often promote his act as “Gallagher Too,” a moniker Gallagher felt was insufficiently informative. In some instances, Ron’s act was promoted in a way that provided no clue to prospective attendees that they were seeing someone other than Gallagher himself.Gallagher initially attempted to get his brother to stop these activities by requesting that he stop using Gallagher’s well-known Sledge-O-Matic routine. These efforts proved futile, and Ron kept touring as “Gallagher Too” (often spelled "Gallagher Two") while using the Sledge-O-Matic routine his older brother had made famous. In August 2000 Gallagher sued his brother for trademark violations and false advertising. The courts ultimately sided with Leo Gallagher, and an injunction was granted prohibiting Ron from performing any act that impersonates his brother in small clubs and venues.
― Who Makes the Na'vis? (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but it's Noel who really got screwed - i mean his act is nothing without the Sledge-o-Matic.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously will someone send Lucas a neverending stream of hookers so that he will be too tired to continue ruining the original Star Wars movies
― living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
with our luck the new 3-D Star Wars will have 3-D hookers
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
this 3-d version is gonna put the "oo!" in tatooine"!
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
makes me wonder who will carry on George's legacy of endlessly remaking Star Wars after he's gone
― shake hands with Gongo? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
ihttp://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/Images/michael-bay.jpg
only 44
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
this is roxxxy, she will escort you to your seat
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/01/worlds-first-sex-robot.jpg
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Whoa -- Lucas is inserting Justice Kennedy into his new 3-D sploogefest?
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i meant 3-D jawa hookers
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
oh that's not creepy at all
if I were Karen O I would be constantly looking over my sholder for that dude
― living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
lolz Alfred you are WAY too into the supreme court
― shake hands with Gongo? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
with our luck the new 3-D Star Wars will have 3-D hookers?
http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/Star%20Wars%20Girls_-40-1.jpg
― Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
is that the droid i'm looking for or are you just happy to see me?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
still roffling at freudian PR
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
will this settle the debate once and for all of who shot first
― dyao, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
good god that sex doll looks like an old friend of mine. creepy!
― la última intimidad (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
"old friend"
― nutrition na'vi (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― la última intimidad (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
The sex doll's on the left, latebloomer.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2010/jan/28/star-wars-george-lucas-avatar
― piscesx, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't understand how the success of Avatar is a demonstration of how 1977 Star Wars can be made 3D. They had to invent new cameras and shit for Avatar; is GL planning on reshooting the entire series again or something?
If not, I'm trying to think of how you could make it all 3D. In at least the first 3 films I think you could pull of a 2.5D. Certainly the effects shots would be doable and in most shots you could simply cut out the actors and backgrounds and have them on separate planes. He could even re-create in 3D CGI all the backgrounds in the original series and place the actors over those, also ala 2.5D, but a true 3D experience derived from 2D would be impossible.
Not even with all of Lucas's money.
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
is GL planning on reshooting the entire series again or something?
don't give him any ideas
― The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
in fact, please take away all the ideas he has now and lock them in a box and then set that box on fire and throw the ashes into the ocean
There's talk of 3d Raiders and Titanic too. I don't get how it works, either. I guess you could take the 2d images and then just guess at their 3d shape? Seems like it would end up wonky.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 29 January 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
has to be said despite everything, 3-D Raiders = yum!
― piscesx, Friday, 29 January 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I would rather him gussy up his old bullshit instead of making new abominations.
― Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Friday, 29 January 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
But for chronic tinkerer Lucas, old bullshit becomes new abominations.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 January 2010 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry to be the one to break this to you, then:
http://ca.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idCATRE60R19C20100128
In short: he's making a 3D CGI musical about fairies
― Adam Bruneau, Friday, 29 January 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone see the 3D Toy Story re-releases? They're meant to look pretty good although not as good as dedicated 3D.
― Number None, Friday, 29 January 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.howtobearetronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Threepio-and-Vader.jpg
this picture makes me sad that there was never actually a direct encounter between the droids and Vader ("you seem familiar to me puny mechanoid..."). i consider this a crime on GL's part.
― mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjJ_ZN_ASPo
I found that because I got the idea today to try my hand at 3d-izing a Star Wars scene in order to get net notoriety/maybe a job and wanted to see if someone had already done so. I suppose the method was similar to this:
http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/creative-cow-magazine-nosferatu-becomes-orlok-the-vampire-in-3d
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 15 February 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
That sounds like a lot of work! Is there any way to automate it a little?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/laugh-it-up-fuzzball-lucas-plans-star-wars-comedy-series/
budddwyer.gif
― goole, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Mon-Cal stand up: "OK, so these two Niemoidians walk into a bar. The first one says to the barman..."
― Convenience Fish (snoball), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
No Bea Arthur, no credibility.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair to ewan tho what would you do if you were cast as OBI WAN FUCKING KENOBI and you show up to the set the first day and find out you have to do a scene opposite the kid from jingle all the way and stepin fechit inside a blue room?― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM Bookmark
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM Bookmark
So OTM, and so sad. Would love to see someone get at this in an interview w/ him.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Watching Ewan McGregor in The Men Who Stare at Goats is pretty good--he gets to play the whole movie not knowing what the fuck a jedi is.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link
for several years i actually haven't been sure if i'd even bothered to see the last of the prequels, until i watched one of the youtubes up there and, yes, i suppose i've seen it. that's the one that ends with the whole frankenstein's monster bit right?
you know, i haven't dwelt upon it because i don't really give a shit about star wars, but these movies are truly terrible on just about every level, aren't they? the hubris of lucas to write these things himself....
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link
actually they are terrible but not, to me anyway, even memorably terrible. i mean aside from that frankenstein's monster bit i can't recall a single thing from any of the prequels except maybe jar jar and the jew alien from the first one.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 10:40 (fourteen years ago) link
90 minute review of Episode 2 from the guy who did the 70 minute Phantom Menace review:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA
― abanana, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Clones is the only somewhat terrible one.
But then, Star Wars was never that great in the first place.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link
see, what i like about these reviews is that they point out the prequels were actually demonstrably terrible cinema - in terms of plot and story and acting - in a way that the original star wars movies, whatever you thought of them and their impact on hollywood, never were.
― "I DONT WANT HOUSE CHICKEN I WANT THIS PLACE CHICKEN!" (stevie), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Agreed, altho I was a bit disappointed with the Clones review for getting even MORE bogged down in the "look, the narrator is a creepy serial killer" gimmick.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link
absolutely - fast forwarded thru those bits. in need of a fan edit...
― p-dog, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Also how GL took the magic from the first films and tried to recreate it with all the subtly of an assembly line robot. Lousy plot and pacing aside, he manages to take everything magical about Star Wars and explain it, dumb it down, and mass-produce it until it's on the screen every 5 minutes and you no longer care. I like how the recent Clones Wars review goes into ruining light sabers in this way. Also the bit where he's comparing Yoda's Zen Master discussions of the force from "Empire" to all the Jedi basically acting like irrational Michael Bay characters in the new ones is so OTM.
All one needs to do is look at that footage of them making the prequels. Everyone looks miserable and terrified.
― Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
"Watching Ewan McGregor in The Men Who Stare at Goats is pretty good"I can't put my finger on what's wrong with this movie, because how can you go wrong with Kevin Spacey and Jeff Bridges going gonzo? But this movie is somehow just as lifeless as the prequels.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
what was wrong is they had a boring narrator who can't master an american accent tell us a goofy story involving charismatic actors rather than let us see it for ourselves. removing ewan wouldn't have necessarily made it more inspired, but it would have at least gotten closer to something worthwhile.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
part of why i haven't seen that Ghost Writer is a real "fool me once, shame on you" vibe involving movies where Ewan uncovers the secrets of more entertaining performers.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6bvuhPyq8Q&feature=player_embedded
not very remarkable...until you realize who's doing the voice over
― I have a big tv with blue ray's (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2010 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit is that harrison ford
― beyond rong goon (tremendoid), Saturday, 1 May 2010 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link
indeed it is
― I have a big tv with blue ray's (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Kind of a great trailer either way - - - just pitch it as the continuing adventures of your favorite characters. I'd have gone!
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i just love how the voiceover seems so typical until you realize it's ford and then the sneering sarcastic tone comes through
― I have a big tv with blue ray's (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
did you guys cover the Seth Green Star Wars sitcom yet?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
All in all Ford's pretty bad as a voiceover artist.
― Check this, in fact. How exciting. He literally cuts the mustard. (snoball), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
That trailer does have the cut shot of C3p0 ripping off the warning label from the door.
― WTF cat with unfitting music (kingfish), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
and I'm guessing the tone is deliberate on Harrison's part, since it's the same voice he adopts when doing the wormy fan guy during "Blade Runner"
― WTF cat with unfitting music (kingfish), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
im seeing that people vs george lucas movie next week. expecting it to basically be the film adaptation of this thread.
― nitzer Ed (s1ocki), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Love the way he says "It's an epic of romance"
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
― WTF cat with unfitting music (kingfish), Saturday, May 1, 2010 4:20 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
i know, i love it. he does the v.o. like it's so beneath him.
― I have a big tv with blue ray's (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 May 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I was trying to find the Jar-Jar Binks translator and had forgotten how ridiculous parts of this thread are.
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
jar-jar's home planet was the answer to a clue in this sunday's crossword puzzle--i was indignant that my girlfriend didn't understand why i didn't know.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 August 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
ha I am indignant that you didn't know!
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
so upset this revive didn't bring the latest iteration of those youtube prequel dismantlings
― are you some kinda rap version of marc loi (stevie), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Definitely a serious crime. Lock GL up for good. Whoever thought this was a good idea is a danger to the human race:
http://www.monzy.com/intro/jarjarpops.jpg
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
It's supposed to be children's candy.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
It looks like something from a very specialist sex shop.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
that's been mentioned multiple times; I think I still have one in its wrapper that I bought at Toys R Us in 1998 because srsly wtf
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
You should combine it with what I believe is referred to as a 'Vibr4ting J3lly T0ngue' - you'll make a fortune on e-b4y. Actually that's a great business idea, SW themed sex toys.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
THAT IS NOT A GREAT BUSINESS IDEA
PLEASE GOD LET THAT NOT BE A GREAT BUSINESS IDEA
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Abbott already foreshadowed that idea in that ILTMI thread
― dyao, Monday, 9 August 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xp You know that somewhere, someone's already doing this.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
what does it say about me that I am way cooler with the idea of man-eating Ewoks than I am a Jar-Jar Binks dildo
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
you guys are fucking gross and insane is what you are
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I cannot get the idea of a vibrating Jar-Jar jelly tongue doing serious damage to my anus as well as my brain
^^ has never put on a black condom while singing the imperial march
― dyao, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
man-eating ewoks sounds like debauched Queen record-release party legend.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Man-eating ewoks with bowls of cocaine tied to their heads.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
"man-eating Ewok" sounds like the nickname Elton John's security detail had for him.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
that's one hell of a tongue
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Use the Force, Dan.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
much respect to john williams, but queen should have scored return of the jedi instead of wasting it on highlander.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Luke's Licksaber - now in 5 different flavors!
― da croupier, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
They should have re-used the music they did for Flash Gordon."Luke... ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! And some ewok cannibals! DUN DUN DUNDUN DUN DUN"
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I can totally hear "Killer Queen" blasting as Vader marches Luke up the stairs to meet the Emperor.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1348/47d6e0ac3d0945eb8360bc070378c7f0.jpg"Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee are the champions"
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
R2 R2 D2! CLAP BOOM BOOM CLAP
― da croupier, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
buddy you're a droid make a big noise
ok now I'm just weird al, sorry
― da croupier, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/1/1c/Leia_luke_kiss.jpg/375px-Leia_luke_kiss.jpg
"It's a kind of maaagic..."
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 August 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c67NRXtaZk
― da croupier, Monday, 9 August 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
the past hours worth of posts should be c&p'ed into a new thread:
"The crimes of the crimes of george lucas ('90's on) thread"
― Mr. Que, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:44 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
finest hour
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Just seeing it again resulted in a real-life LOL.
― thanks for the feedback (supra) (Phil D.), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
far and away
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
just the 5 seconds my brain spent trying to process that the first time i read it... amazing
Remember happier times for them?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
uh... yes?
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
xp now that really is "far far away"
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Did anyone ever see that movie? Seems like a complete memory hole of a release.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i remember that happening.
but what does it have to do with GL?
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, August 9, 2010
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
oh
right
i was secretly hoping that was another "wrong thread" posting we could all laugh about
― the itsytitchyschneider (s1ocki), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
My wife saw "Far and Away" and felt like Tom and Nicole had the sexual chemistry of a gay man and a random cheerleader.
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I was just thinking about this today: I had this old coworker, in his 50s or so, and when this movie came out everyone at work was complaining about Jar-Jar. And this guy says, "I don't get why everyone has such a problem with Jar-Jar and how he talks – I happen to like Jamaican people."
― spanikopitcon (Abbott), Monday, 9 August 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
That's so clueless as to be kind of sweet.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 9 August 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
that's when I thought Tom Cruise was cute. Sigh.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
The Jar Jar Binks character will be legendary and deserves to permanently destroy the Star Wars legacy. To quote the Rifftrax guys (who really do a great job tearing TPM to shreds) It is offensive on a metaphysical level.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
just about to watch this, anyone else seen it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA&feature=related
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
It's so bizarre, it's some strange frankenstein's monster gone horribly wrong, the abject repressed nightmare inside the mind of a marketing executive who is having a bad acid trip. That something so grotesque and hideous was actually - and eagerly - created is bizarre beyond comprehension. He looks like if you bred Bug Bunny and a duckbill platypus and then had the resulting spawn skinned.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I've watched that review - there's some very sharp criticism. The persona the guy puts on can get a bit much, but worth watching.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/mg46044,1259971164,Darth-Maul.jpghttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/389264/Insane+Clown+Posse.jpg
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 August 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
fuckin Mynocks, how do they work?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
george lucas with the lid off
― blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
on part 4 of that attack of the clones review. wow.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucas's "crimes" pale before Tarantino's
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
damn that's challenging
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iSwCsgcQqEM/SfmNdHgnwZI/AAAAAAAAAEc/MqR4U6Jzh10/s320/1:32:25+this+is+how+liberty+dies+++History.png
"Lucas's crimes against liberty pale before Tarantino's"
― buzza, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
still can't believe you rep for the star wars prequels morbs... i can not even imagine what you are thinking standing up for this kiddie cartoon trash
― snooki stackhouse (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I DONT 'REP'
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
you kids with your newfangled jibber jabber.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link
he doesn't rep but he does resent!
― caek boss (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:20 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
I said, "Mom, what are you doing, you're ruining my rep"She said, "You're only sixteen, you don't have a rep yet"
― snooki stackhouse (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
very illuminating interview w/Lucas' former producer/associate Gary Kurtz:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-gary-kurtz-20100812,0,134728,full.story
― caek boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it.Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.
Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.
sigh
― grateful dad (LOLK), Thursday, 12 August 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
fwiw i love this fuzzy bastards
― caek boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
those*
haw
somebody's got a new user name
― caek boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean i still love the original yub nub ending and all but... what if?
― grateful dad (LOLK), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
it would have been cooler no doubt!
― caek boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm telling you, they could have fixed everything by having the Ewoks eat the Stormtroopers
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4
― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
THE END
― caek boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I was very distracted by the fly on dude's forehead
― How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I always kind of suspected he made up that whole "It's supposed to be 9 movies" after they realized they could make a killing on these films.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Nice read. Kurtz's ending doesn't sound GREAT to be honest - - I mean, what's the point of rescuing Han and then having him die, beyond the general idea that the rogue's arc of redemption must end in self-sacrifice? Totally agreed about the redundant Death Star though....could they just not come up with anything else?
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I always assumed that they did, since a) they were fully prepared to eat Han, Luke and Chewie, and b) those stormtrooper helmets being used as rototoms came from SOMEplace.
― a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Friday, 13 August 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe a Death Cafe or a Death Water Park
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Friday, 13 August 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
That reminded me of another Kurtz interview, post-Phantom Menace. He hasn't changed his tune.
http://www.filmthreat.com/interviews/8/
― Millsner, Friday, 13 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aoc3roT81nU
― piscesx, Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i heard George Lucas raped a koala once
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Saturday, 14 August 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
No that was an E-wok
― Evan, Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Or, whatever.
― Evan, Saturday, 14 August 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Favorite bit of the Clones review: explaining how casting Samuel L. Jackson was a 100% cynical bait-and-switch to get black people into theaters.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
What about Billy Dee Williams then?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Billy Dee Williams isn't a bait-and-switch - - - what exactly was Williams's reputation at the time that he could be cynically cashed-in upon? I get the complaint with Samuel L. Jackson, basically you're expecting this ultimate Jedi badass, with some taut, just-barely-controlled anger fueling the delivery of classic lines. Instead you get a monkish, dowdy cipher. To be fair, most of the characters are ciphers, and I'm not sure I want to start singing the praises of typecasting, but certainly when I heard Samuel L. Jackson was going to be in Star Wars, it got me excited based on things that ultimately were not there in the film.
The little promo clip dude excerpts with Jackson talking about how they're some awesome action and fighting in this movie does seem a little bit calculated, I have to say.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/REuxl.jpg
― Louis CK BK ANYBODYK (lpz), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been thinking more about these prequels, about how it was supposedly impossible to make a movie about war that didn't fetishize it?I think Lucas might have actually achieved the impossible. I can't imagine any kid watching these having any desire to participate in warfare, or at least not with any help from these movies.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Just want to add: Again, not putting the original version on the new Blu-ray. Not that I expected him to, but just another little thing that annoys me.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a huge thing that enrages me iirc
― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
u mean pre-cgi theatrical version? he'll never do that cuz hes a delusional p.o.s.
― am0n, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
he should be hanged for his crimes too imo
― am0n, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
he'll die a martyr for peace!
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Why would black people need Sam Jackson in a film that already has Jar Jar.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha he makes a joke about that in the review. Something like, "When I think of the people who would never want to see this..." (clip of Jar Jar) "...I think of black people."
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:20 AM
― am0n, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
And yeah, Billy Dee was a major character, who actually did and said things that were not completely stilted and dull.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Williams responded indifferently to the criticism of his appearances in the liquor commercials. When questioned about his appearances he was quoted as saying, "I drink, you drink. Hell, if marijuana was legal, I'd appear in a commercial for that too."
― am0n, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
well the prequels are pretty equal opportunity when it comes to stilted and dull.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Who's the real bad assssss?
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
And in terms of not being a major character. Even the major characters aren't very major.
Apart from the really weird, very sick "mass murderer" stuff thrown in there, I really do recommend this guys breakdown of the prequels. He's astute. His review of Avatar is good, too.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
He especially loves to break down the monetary calculations that go into making movies huge movies like these, and how effective and/or appalling the filmmakers are toward these ends.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the Sam Jackson part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-isAmaVbsM
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
The more I think on it, the more I'm baffled by the mass murderer thing running through all these reviews. Why would someone as smart as this go that route? I imagine a late night meeting in someone's living room.
"I want to be a character of some kind. Have a persona, not just review these movies. That way we can work some of our little side projects as videocam-owning-people into the reviews.""Well, what did you have in mind?""Hmm. How about, I torture and kill women?"
You'd think his friends would have shouted him down at this point.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
be fair, no one would have given it a fair shake if instead of a mumbling psychopath it was kevin smith doing it.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
What makes you think he has friends.
― funky house skeptic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
in all honesty i prefer this persona to the zero punctuation guy and um.. armond white i suppose.really, the only people giving opinions on youtube i could stand was that elderly couple that gave film reviews.there is no way out of the inherent narcissism of such a venture, so why not make a psycho-killer persona to deflect it?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
xp There are other people in his videos, for one thing.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ya i think it is so dumb its funny, wtv
― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's pretty squicky.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
They also act as an excuse to break every once in awhile -- they're pretty long.Also, if you've seen similarly styled videos where the dude isn't adopting a schtick, but it's just them narrating, they come off as pretty smart-alecky.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I know, but why THIS gimmick?
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
The crimes of Red Letter Media
maybe he's going for a "lucas is so manifestly terrible that even a deranged mumblecore killer can lucidly outline how" sort of thing?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I have to say, my sensibilities might be jaded from a lifetime of brutal, misanthropic and malevolent cinema, but I find the "serial killer" sections objectionable not because they're offensive but because they're boring, unfunny, and predictable. But the voice is 100% essential.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Agree about the voice.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ok it might take awhile but i'd be up for splicing the horror-comedy sketches out of one of these reviews and uploading them to youtube to see if they hold up as well without them. which one of these would you guys stand to watch again... for science?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
would watch
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
you know i can think of no cogent defense for the "serial killer" parts and yet somehow... i think they're good...?
― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean it just kind of pre-empts the any flack you might get for doing a 70-minute phantom menace review pretty neatly
― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Why not 60 minutes without rape and murder?
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
cause the rape and murder breaks up the montony, maaaan
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
A lesson Lucas could have learned, eh?
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
As Yoda would say: Circles, we go in.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
You know that episode where Picard thinks he's dead and Q offers him a chance to fix it so he doesn't pull a barfight with a 7-foot warthog in his youth? So he does it because obviously that's a stupid, regretful thing worth fixing, but it wrecks the rest of his life, and he ends up a loser ensign instead of Captain of the Enterprise?
I think that's what these horror-com sketches are to this. Let me know which of the reviews you want the sketches excised from, and we'll see if that's the case.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
You're Q! That's awesome!
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Q was an idiot.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't take me there, for real.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Everyone can be Q now with Q...uicktime
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
irl lol
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
can u edit natively in whatever codec youtubez uses or are you going to have recompress it again and make it look even worse
― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I think iMovie will edit an m4v.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
And if not, you can save "up" from Quicktime, to an unnecessary bitrate, and encode in .mov, and then edit down from there. Yeah, it'll be lossy, but less so.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP
― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
youtube apparently lets you download the original file or something close to it.
Did he do one for Indy 4? I'd be more keen to bowdlerizing one I haven't seen yet.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Ha! Exactly.
― kenan, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm amazed you guys can even sit through this much commentary about movies that are so bad. these youtubes are SO LONG
― what's up, ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
hey while you're editing it can you change it so one of those girls in the basement shoots him first, i think that would make his actions more sympathetic
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, but two things. First, he loves the original movies, and obviously movies in general, and understands their inner guts, and feels he needs to point out precisely how and why the prequels are SO bad. Because they are SO bad. Second, he's funny and entertaining. Mostly. But a woman tied up in a basement and begging for a glass of water is not very funny. Maybe I'm one of of those guys who doesn't get internet irony. Litigate against me, if you think that's necessary.
― kenan, Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
the psycho thing is there to defuse the clearly psychotic endeavor of putting up a ridiculously long critique of the star wars prequels. it's not funny (and when it goes on longer than 5 seconds it's really really bad) but it's not exactly like when russ meyer movies just suddenly go 'btw RAPE'S HILARIOUS'.
― balls, Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Where's Kate to rant about how disgusting this is? Oh, right.
― kenan, Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
That whole schtick did irritate me. IIRC in later ones those bits just go on *longer* with more and more footage of crying women in his basement. It's made less disgusting by the fact that the women are really terrible actresses & consequently there's no actual feeling of duress. Also, it just has this feeling of having to drive your younger brother & his friends around all day while they have grossout competitions to make each other laugh. It's hard to take seriously, but it's also annoying.
I wish he would have just stuck to the jokes about pizza roles, which I actually thought were funny.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean pizza rolls.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
It wasn't like *trigger alert* or anything though, it was just poorly executed joking.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 September 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, the pizza roll thing is def. better.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 September 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
And I think this is a sort of generalizable problem where the things I find entertaining in internet videos that deconstruct pop culture are actually not what the target audience leaps for. Like it's the same as how Angry Video Game Nerd is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy funnier when he's just playing the game and getting deep into the minutia of why it doesn't work and isn't fun, rather than doing toilet jokes and stringing swears together.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 23 September 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucasfilm Ltd. announced today that the live-action Star Wars Saga will be converted to 3D! There are few movies that lend themselves more perfectly to 3D; from the Death Star trench run to the Tatooine Podrace, the Star Wars Saga has always delivered an entertainment experience that is completely immersive. Presented by Twentieth Century Fox and Lucasfilm Ltd., the cutting edge conversion will take that immersion to the next thrilling level, with Industrial Light & Magic supervising the project. Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace is expected to be released theatrically in 2012. A release date has not yet been determined. "Getting good results on a stereo conversion is a matter of taking the time and getting it right," said John Knoll, Visual Effects Supervisor for Industrial Light & Magic. "It takes a critical and artistic eye along with an incredible attention to detail to be successful. It is not something that you can rush if you want to expect good results. For Star Wars we will take our time, applying everything we know both aesthetically and technically to bring audiences a fantastic new Star Wars experience."
"Getting good results on a stereo conversion is a matter of taking the time and getting it right," said John Knoll, Visual Effects Supervisor for Industrial Light & Magic. "It takes a critical and artistic eye along with an incredible attention to detail to be successful. It is not something that you can rush if you want to expect good results. For Star Wars we will take our time, applying everything we know both aesthetically and technically to bring audiences a fantastic new Star Wars experience."
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link
at this point there's really nothing that can be done to ruin star wars further than it already has been. 3-D is way less offensive than shitty tacked-on cgi. but who the fuck would wants to see the phantom menace again?
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link
or indeed at all
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i think everyone should be made to see it, just to spread the pain around
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe as well as 3D, Lucas could also revive Smell-O-Vision, so that the stench of manure could waft through the cinema.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link
literally! remember that scene where Jar Jar's steps in some shit? or when the space camel farts in his face?
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't un-remember that. the world must suffer.
Han shat first...
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link
those scenes were actually in the Phantom Menace, btw
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Jedi robes are brown for a reason. Helps hide embarrassing stains.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
special edition jokes right at the beginning of this:http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/703826
― my sex drew back into itself tight and dry (abanana), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link
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― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:23 AM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think dr morbius was actually the only human being who liked this movie
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
releasing them one by one *annualy* the press releases seem to be saying? that can't be right can it? i mean who's going to give a shit for that first 3 years?
― piscesx, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I loved Simon Pegg's tweet this morning about this:
"Watching TPM in 3D would be like the car actually crashing into your face as opposed to just unfolding before your eyes."
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link
haha
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
um... I liked it (except for Jar-Jar)
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link
morbius is your sock?
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
okay now THAT would be some shit
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
but anyway, look upthread!
lol I am the only person here who doesn't hate these movies― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:58 PM
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:58 PM
could be a forgery
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I liked it too, for the most part. (And so did Ebert!)
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
sock, sock, sock
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link
My favorite thing about Ebert's review was that he pretty much called ppl out with "lol u jaded"
If it were the first "Star Wars" movie, "The Phantom Menace" would be hailed as a visionary breakthrough. But this is the fourth movie of the famous series, and we think we know the territory; many of the early reviews have been blase, paying lip service to the visuals and wondering why the characters aren't better developed. How quickly do we grow accustomed to wonders. I am reminded of the Isaac Asimov story "Nightfall," about the planet where the stars were visible only once in a thousand years. So awesome was the sight that it drove men mad. We who can see the stars every night glance up casually at the cosmos and then quickly down again, searching for a Dairy Queen.
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19990517/REVIEWS/905170301/1023
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
man The Phantom Empire would have rocked if the Separatists had split from the Republic over ice cream.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yeesh
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
TS: technical breakthroughs vs. watchable movies.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link
And shame on Roger Ebert for lauding visuals over story and characters. He KNOWS better.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
If it were the first "Star Wars" movie, "The Phantom Menace" would be hailed as a visionary breakthrough.
what the hell does that mean? sure TPM released 20 years earlier would have BLOWN PEOPLE'S FUCKING MINDS. But by 1999 cgi-heavy sci-fi action flicks were nothing new, and in its own time and place it was clearly ponderous cruddy over-engineered under-written nonsense.
― ledge, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone calling these movies "unwatchable" hasn't seen a truly unwatchable movie, like Terminator: Salvation or The Bounty Hunter.
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
most popular unwatchable film is The Dark Knight.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh bullshit. The prequels are complete garbage.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i have seen plenty of unwatchable films in my day sir
and this film is unwatchable
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, my work here is done. (claps dust off hands, strides away whistling)
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I've seen TPM maybe 3 or 4 times now, and I still couldn't tell you the story. The trade federation stuff was all needlessly complex and bafflingly makes no sense at all. The entire plot of that movie is impenetrable. Jar-Jar aside, I hate how all the aliens speak English with silly accents instead of made up space talk w subtitles. Also hate the actor playing Anakin; he should've been cast as a guest role in a 30 min sitcom. But it's all moot because Jar-Jar pretty much voids the entire movie as soon as he enters.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, he's a sucker for that kind of thing in the sci-fi realm. He grants the same latitude to "Metropolis" and "Dark City," e.g. (The latter of which he did DVD commentary for.)
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
In fact, I'm pretty sure he named "Dark City" his favorite of 1998, and his review starts: ``Dark City'' by Alex Proyas is a great visionary achievement, a film so original and exciting, it stirred my imagination like ``Metropolis'' and ``2001: A Space Odyssey.'' If it is true, as the German director Werner Herzog believes, that we live in an age starved of new images, then ``Dark City'' is a film to nourish us. Not a story so much as an experience, it is a triumph of art direction, set design, cinematography, special effects--and imagination
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Tbh I would permaban
How the hell can you not know the story if you've seen it 4 or 5 times? It's not even remotely complicated.
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol that first bit shouldn't be there
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
No, it makes sense in context.
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Dark City, but I never understood the sloppy handjob that Ebert gave it. It's a three-star affair.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
haha freudian slip there dan
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a two-starrer at BEST.
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:08 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
no but it is so painfully boring and shitty the brain actively rejects it
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
xp I like the story. It's a little silly, but I, like Ebert, was impressed when I realized that it was not Earth at all.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace is expected to be released theatrically in 2012
hopefully this is scheduled to be released AFTER the world ends in 2012
― tUrD-yArDs - BiRd-SHiTs (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
December 25, 2012 -- Just in time for post-apocalyptic Xmas.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"I didn't care enough about the plot to pay attention to it" is a very different criticism from "The plot is so complicated and impenetrable that I can't tell you what happens"; I could understand someone saying the latter if we were talking about "Eraserhead" but this is a fucking Star Wars movie!
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
"released theatrically" - it will be accompanied by a drumroll and a loud bang of confetti
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
"Complicated and impenetrable" is different still from "Doesn't make a lick of sense."
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not that I don't understand what's SUPPOSED to be going on, it's that what's supposed to be going on is thinly motivated and often arbitrary, in service of getting to the next big set piece.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Can you relay the plot to me, with regards to the trade federation, the gungans, who is on what side, who those two alien ambassadors were at the beginning, etc. etc. without referring to wikipedia?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, i mean, sitting down and watching it, im sure it isn't that complicated, but you forget all of it the minute the movie ends because you care NOT AT ALL what happens.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Without the aid of Wikipedia:
The Trade Federation are blockading Naboo because of something. The Jedi go to sort it out. They ponce around for a bit, meet Jar Jar then leave with the princess. Their spaceship breaks down on way back and they have to stop on Tattoine to find a spare part. They meet Anakin and take him with them, and they have a fight with Darth Maul there for some reason as well. Also there is a very loud and confusing sport event. They get back to Coruscant, then turn around again and go straight back to Naboo after talking to the Jedi council about some stuff I can't remember. Jar Jar persuades his people to join the fight against the Trade Federation, and there is a big battle. Darth Maul shows up again and kills Qui-Gon, then Obi Wan kills him. Anakin blows up one of the Federation's ships by mistake, and the battle droids all stop working and the blockade is lifted. Obi Wan decides to train Anakin, despite Yoda warning him not to. The End.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
xp I think I have the basics, yeah. There's a fight going on about tariffs on intergalactic trade. The Galactic Senate has become a powerless UN-like body, once ruling the galaxy, but now totally limp. The Trade Federation, who for some reason how its own military, puts up a blockade around Naboo, preventing supplies from moving in or out, just to prove a pissy point. This is bad for Naboo. Senator Palpatine sees opportunity in this tense situation, and conspires to make the situation worse, to make the Supreme Chancellor look even more incompetent than he already is, and have himself installed in his place.
Right?
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Bravo sirs!
― Neil S, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think I could do the same for Attack of the Clones.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
my eyes glazed over even trying to read that paragraph
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
How the hell can you not know the story if you've seen it 4 or 5 times?
I apologize if this was already addressed, but why would you see this movie 4 or 5 times?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
guys, look away
― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Notice I didn;t mention the Jedis in my plot synopsis, because nothing they do seems to have any significance whatsoever. The Gungans are there apparently to be recruited as soldiers, even though the Gungan leader is adamant about how the fight won't affect them either way. Obi Wan says something about everything effecting everyone else, except that the Gungans live in the "planet core" (which I guess is made of water?) and the people on Naboo seem to have no contact with them at all, whatsoever. So the Gungans are really, really easily persuaded to fight and die against their interests, apparently.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
to clarify my question, why would you repeatedly see a movie you cared so little about the plot evaporated from your mind the second after you saw it? or was the amnesia THAT strong?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok, I've seen it twice, then watched part of The Phantom Edit, then watched the rifftrax once twice.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Same reason to watch the Zapruder film over and over. WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Something died violently, and I need to know how and why.
'Repeatedly' being in the course of 10 years.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm sure I've only sat through the whole thing once.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:22 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
slock1 OTM
― beef lamp (stevie), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
"Now it's R2-3D and 3D-PO as George Lucas green lights mega Star Wars conversion"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1316182/George-Lucas-green-lights-mega-Star-Wars-3D-conversion.html
Maybe more at home on the Mail mail thread
― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Not unless the DM claims that Jawas are illegal immigrants.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Mail mail?
Sorry, hate mail, duh!
― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Get ready for HAN TRIO and PRINCESS THREEYA as LUCAS creates NEW DIMENSION for STAR FLICKS
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Would think Attack of the Clones & Revenge of the Sith would be the easiest to do, since the sets are all CGI anyways, all they need to do is find the original files and put it 2nd camera & re-render. With improved computer technology, render times for even the most complicated scenes should be drastically shorter than originally.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Obi Wan Kenobthree
LOOK skywalker
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
― kenan, Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:56 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
He's ALWAYS done that. He gave Spawn, a movie that's arguably even worse than the Phantom Menace (and has even worse effects), three and a half stars.
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I guess he does give a multipass to all things comic-book-ish.
― kenan, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
"Use the Force 3D goggles"
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
C3-DO
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
some points in favor of dark city:kiefer is pretty good as the nerdit never inspired any fanfiction (i have this theory that fanfiction is a kind of autoimmune response by an audience spurred by intrinsic defects in the source material [this would be supported if we could count up the number of prequel fanfics vs. original trilogy])
i can't think of any in favor of spawn.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I never watched "The Cell" but I'm pretty sure it didn't deserve the four stars Ebert gave it.
― funky house skeptic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I kind of tuned out the rest of the movie, but this scene is worth 4 stars!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDGLkpSUFhM
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
The Cell reminded me of a hundred-minute version of Madonna's "Nothing Really Matters"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAVx9RKaLPU
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
that is the meanest thing I've ever seen written about The Cell
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
ha - I'm pretty sure it isn't.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
"scena del cavallo"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"but this scene is worth 4 stars!"what i meant was 'this scene is worth HORSE stars!'
i can't think of a single scene in star wars that's worth 3D-izing more than a cross-sectioned horse.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ list thread
― Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
he should make jar jar 3-d and keep everything else in 2-d
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder if this is happening because someone complained the characters in the prequels "were two-dimensional" and Lucas got confused.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
calling them two-dimensional is being generous
― pro bono toilet snaking (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:22 (1 year ago)
Well now Lucas can remake the films so that there's a million things flying around in the foreground right in front of your face.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
STAR WARS 3-D: THEY FLY @ U FACE
― a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Especially that scene with the shapeshifter assassin and Obi-Wan is hanging onto that flying droid and Anakin is chasing after them. You know that scene is just going to be five minutes of shit and wacky aliens in flying clown cars careering towards you constantly.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope we'll be able to smell Watto's burps.
― funky house skeptic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
And Jabba's farts!
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link
George Lucas does not exist - he never did. He is manage by a robo-star in manner of #2536. He will soon introduce something for you - THE CHOMPING DUCK GETS HIS FATTY OUT FOR VADAR
― Latham Green, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
can this be the thread where we just recycle complaints from red letter media? because seriously why did the shape-shifting assassin need to hide its face with a veil.
― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Thursday, 30 September 2010 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link
If the assassin was shape-shifting why didnt it just become Padame and kill itself?
― Latham Green, Thursday, 30 September 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
The senate chamber will look pretty dope, tho.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 September 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link
truu dat!
― Latham Green, Thursday, 30 September 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
This pretty much sums up the prequels:
http://i.imgur.com/95WpR.gif
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 24 October 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way, the Red Letter Media guy's Star Trek reviews are hilarious, maybe better than the SW ones (depending on whether or not you're a Trek fan)
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 24 October 2010 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucas now forced to shill for PC World, just to make a bit of money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjTBHEnj04
― like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Sunday, 24 October 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
(actually it's quite well made, and feels old school Star Wars-y. I like the scene wipes, or whatever they're called. Despite that, it still somehow leaves a bad taste)
― like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Sunday, 24 October 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
That's going to be in the 3D version of ANH. The inside of the Jawa transport is going to look like a branch of PC World.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 08:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally always wished they had made Star Wars graphic adventures back in the day. Those two based on Indiana Jones were great. The Fate Of Atlantis was 1000x better than the new movie too....
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.redlettermedia.com/sith.html
the episode 3 review is finally up... 2 hours long!
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
but it just flies by!
― we could play games, idk (ledge), Sunday, 2 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, it does. Pretty good, but not as good as the ep 2 review. Really like how he pointed out certain things that were spoiled because of the over-reliance on green screen, like Obi-Wan's non-reaction at a four-armed robot unsheathing multiple lightsabers right in front of his face. Also the bit about how unimaginatively the talking scenes were shot.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 January 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I thought that bit was pretty illuminating.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 January 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a dream last night that Peter Jackson decided to do Lucas-style re-releases of all the LOTR movies that included new footage of new characters, a corsair played by Nic Cage in an eyepatch and an evil witch played by Andie McDowell.
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 January 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
a corsair played by Nic Cage in an eyepatch
I would watch a film about this.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Monday, 3 January 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I think that Star Wars III review (review!?) is tremendous - it took me an age to watch but then really made me think. Real insight, comparative analysis and a passion for the original pictures, as well as laughs and some OTT maybe self-publicizing digressions.
― the pinefox, Monday, 3 January 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i like this series. baby han solol!
but i think the original trilogy films have a lot of shit in them too. i don't like he holds them up as great filmmaking.
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 3 January 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"evil witch played by Andie McDowell"
there's this movie with a bond girl who looks just like andie mcdowell playing some flying witch called her majesty's secret elements or something like that.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 3 January 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
is there really a baby Han Solo in the prequels? how did that work
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 January 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
its a joke in the video shakey
"even ray charles could see that coming... and he doesn't know anything about Star Wars!"
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 3 January 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
LOL @ that one!
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 January 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
love when he asks 'is it something that should've been done' about a story element and then answers with the clip of vader screaming NOOOOOO
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 3 January 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I think what's great about these is how much it digs past the superficial reasons I thought these movies sucked and really gets into the mechanics of it - - - it's like a master's course in the ways and means of dullness. The discussion of the limitations created by green screen and the incredibly lazy blocking is soooooooooooo OTM.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally agree, the amazing thing is they make you realize that the movies are even worse than you had previously thought. It illuminates The sheer totality of their crapness
― Number None, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
it isn't specifically a focal point of the video, but it reminded me of how drama-free a giant war between soulless, faceless clones and robots is. Couldn't they have made one side humans? Couldn't they have made the robots fearsome?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah really, the sheer lameness of what "the clone wars" turned out to be is a big problem, the EPIC BACKDROP for the character story is totally devoid of any interest whatsoever.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude who does RedLetterMedia really should get his own TV show. In the vein of MST3K, maybe.
― heh (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
is this one as rapey as the others? there isn't really anything for me to do at work but you know if it is p rapey i won't get away with watching it.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the key is he's not just a star wars fanboy whose childhood has been crushed by lucas's foibles - he also understands script and story, and how they work, and that lucas's skills in these areas have painfully eroded between trilogies.
― this guy ☜ (stevie), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
The funny thing is that after the first two prequels, which were total shit, the third one at the time seemed tolerable. But this epic takedown reveals just how wrong I was.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
and that lucas's skills in these areas have painfully eroded between trilogies.
Lucas' script and story skills really not so prevalent in the first trilogy, tbh
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
the first star wars tells a pretty compelling story
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah and Lucas didn't write the other two (at least, not by himself)
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
this is super interesting but i think the guy is just cacked out by now. there is only so many ways to say that lucas sucks at story telling, his cgi, fight scenes and lack of acting (not the same as bad acting), stilted dialogue, bad plot points etc.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
If you read the first Star Wars draft, it's dreadful, totally lacking in charm, structure, characters, emotion, plausibility. The second draft is not much better, or the third... and then somehow he nails it. So I don't think his skills have painfully eroded, I think he just got lucky once (and had enough momentum or enough of the rest of the story already crafted to carry the sequels).
― we could play games, idk (ledge), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
gary kurtz tends to get a lot of credit for reigning in lucas' worst impulses on the first two movies
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
if only general kurtz had as much influence on post-first two movies on lucas.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
the quotes from Lucas' drafts of the Star Wars script in Easy Riders, Raging Bulls are HILARIOUS
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Especially to Australians. "The Bogan! The Bogan!"
― we could play games, idk (ledge), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
The Obi-Wan riding the giant lizard moment is what tipped me off.
Also, I love how he builds up all this evidence that Lucas basically wrote this shit in a weekend and didn't bother to even re-watch the original trilogy. It's really so haphazard the way he tries to connect everything. Anakin needlessly going back to save that one clone to prove he's a good guy. Obi-Wan constantly referring to these other fun and exciting offscreen adventures they have together where they save each others lives. Then how they put young Anakin in at the end of ROTJ and now Luke somehow knows how Anakin looked when he was 25 rather than the man he actually saw.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
all those repeated clips of lucas at the ranch with all the sycophants clapping and smiling whenever he said anything were super creepy and really illuminating.
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, yeah, lots of sitting on couches in those prequels.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder who would win the super creepy sycophant ranch contest between george lucas and david lynch.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think lynch lives on a ranch
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
the loser would be the salad
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a compound of some type, according to the david foster wallace article. and there's livestock, too, but they are rotting on lynch's estate.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
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― goole, Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:40 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
goddammit those redletter vids just have me thinking about this bullshit all over again. fuckin lucas.
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I still think the only horrible things in the prequels are Jar-Jar in Ep 1. Anakin/Padme doe-eyes in Ep 2 and Anakin's wholly unbelievable conversion to the Dark Side in Ep 3.
Somehow, even though these are all three massively important lynchpins to the movies in question, I still enjoy all of them and will watch them if stumble across them on cable.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Wasn't there a rumor at some point that N'Sync would be in one of these movies? I think that was when my Spidey sense started tingling.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/%27N_Sync
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i admire these reviews (dumb humor notwithstanding) because i think it is really, really hard to explain why something is bad while staying within its own terms.
― ryan, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^Agreed. And I don't think he's necessarily saying the originals are great films per se, just great within their own terms, which I think they are on the whole.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah--when i finally saw THX118 a few years ago, I was amazed at how someone could have done that (it wasn't flawless, but it was really interesting and mostly ace) and the first Star Wars could have deteriorated so dramatically.
― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link
agree with all of this. the first star wars flick is a magnificent movie, one of the best and most interesting/rewarding fantasy epics ever made, but it's really damn hard to articulate exactly why it's so great, especially in relation to the radically diminished returns offered by the return of the jedi and the prequels. (i mean, i could try, but this doesn't seem the place.)
the tragedy of lucas' fall isn't how far he wound up from what initially made him great, but the fact that he didn't move at all. the differences between what initially worked and eventually didn't are so subtle as to be all but inarticulable. but unmistakable for that. as ryan says, lucas always stayed true to his own terms, to the basic logic and aesthetics of the universe he'd created. but at the same time, he betrayed them totally, betrayed them perhaps even by his fealty.
― carles marx (contenderizer), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link
the first one was made in the 70s. it feels like a 70s movie. the haircuts, the attitudes. the others weren't. QED
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, thanks for simplifying it. yes. tracer otm. luke with windblown 70s hair above the adobe ruin of his (faux) parents' dream.
― carles marx (contenderizer), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link
those Red Letter reviews are amazing. the whole walking,talking/ bad framing section in part 3 is way better at articulating what's wrong with the prequels than anything else i've ever seen or read. who is this guy? does he really speak like that?
― piscesx, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link
of course not
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link
a quick look at their website makes it seem like a group. plus if someone was to do all that themselves they would have to be fucking psychotic (not out the question obv)
― "jobs" (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Technically, the second one was made in the 70s too, its filming was finished in September 1979.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link
2nd is still pretty goddam AOK, fwiw
― carles marx (contenderizer), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
those Red Letter reviews are amazing. the whole walking,talking/ bad framing section in part 3 is way better at articulating what's wrong with the prequels than anything else i've ever seen or read.
otm. i'd love to see more long-form movie reviews like this---it's very rare in a written review to get the kind of close-reading of craft that the red letter guys got into. can't really imagine many other films that would warrant this obsessive treatment, though.
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i told a friend who wanted to learn how to write to watch it.
― "jobs" (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
The Star Trek (2009) review is really good, too, since he/they actually liked the movie. And he explicitly compares it to both OT and PT Star Wars to demonstrate what it got right that the prequels got wrong. (ALthough when it come's to the prequels, I'm pretty firmly in Dan's camp, here.)
― children with wasting diseases (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2989/screenshot20110105at121.pnghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcc3ui3iSD1qewv1lo1_500.jpg
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i must watch the Star Trek review one. Star Tek 09 is an all-time classic example of taking something old and making it better, i was freaking blown away by it. Dr Who, Star Wars, Superman Returns, that recent good BBC Sherlock thing, all the endless horror remakes etc.. all of them are bloody rubbish in comparison.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Well I wouldn't get that carried away about it, but it was a great reboot. Superman Returns wasn't much cop, so I'll give you that one.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
This Red Letter guy is brilliant, because as easy as it is to say these movies are bad, he may be the only person I've encountered to peg just why these movies suck, and not just that theysuck. And yeah, the Star Trek 09 review is pretty vital, too, because it's a movie he likes but isn't beyond dissecting as a perfectly assembled product, which again goes back to his problem with the prequels - namely that they're poorly assembled products. Star Trek turns out to be a great point of comparison (just like Citizen Kane in the Sith review, which he concedes is unfair but still smartly knows how to employ as a useful reference).
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh I really can't imagine watching these reviews based on the descriptions here
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
u should deffo skip these vids if you hate funny things
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I must admit, they do provide satisfying closure to the whole ordeal.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
they are hilarious and insightful and surprisingly dont seem too long but they are still reviews of a movie.
― "jobs" (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
how can they not seem too long when they are JUST AS LONG AS THE MOVIE BEING REVIEWED
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
because they're way more interesting than the actual movie (which is a piece of shit btw)?
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^^^^
― "jobs" (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
like dude i've seen other movies as long as ep3 that didn't seem too long because you know they were ~actually good~
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
ultimately, and keep in mind I spend large chunks of my work day posting here, I think my time is too precious to spend on multiple hours of someone dissecting movies I find enjoyable and inconsequential
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't really have that many NERDS! moments but it seems like they're all triggered by ILX these days
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
haha dude my NERDS! moments are exclusively thanks to ilx
― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i find these reviews legitimately entertaining and dont seem too long because they're smart! (minus the serial killer sub-plot...)
i think the cross-cutting between Yoda's monologue on the force and the systematic contradictions of it in the prequels is sort of a high water mark for the whole series of reviews.
― ryan, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
What makes these so great is not just that they're entertaining but that they're perceptive. You may think you know why you don't like these movies, but man, this guy offers a very educational breakdown that details stuff you may not have even noticed. Like, not mistakes or continuity issues, but good ol' film school 101 stuff that, tbh, will likely now affect not just how I watch certain films but how I critique them. Blocking, framing, writing, editing, the whole deal. And then chase it down with the Star Trek '09 review to get an idea how two very similar Hollywood productions can diverge so wildly when it comes to results.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
the reviews dpn't ever even mention utility data, it's tragic
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno -- there's another series of nerd reviews by some anonymous kid that seems about as insightful, but the fact that the kid doesn't go to the effort of peppering it with serial killer jokes is what makes it fall flat.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
also the kid sounds like the schaudenfreude kid from king of the hill + comic book guy.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the editing is the secret star of these videos. They do a good job of keeping your visual interest for TWO HOURS. Hard to do.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc the ep 1 one is broken into ten minute chunks and the first one ends with the interviews with people describing characters from the original trilogy, then the new ones. It's a great moment and probably a good place to start if you're wary of devoting precious unrecoverable hours of your life to such a seemingly pointless and nerdy enterprise.
― nanoflymo (ledge), Thursday, 6 January 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I kind of wish the guy would do this for global warming deniers, because he does way more entertaining and effective lawyering than say, al gore
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 January 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Michael Moore already does the mumbling "Then the President followed through on it... oh wait. Yeah... Nevermind" thing.
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 6 January 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
willing to bet MM movies would be improved w/ a bizarre "comedy" serial killer schtick.
― nanoflymo (ledge), Thursday, 6 January 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
well, the rabbit lady was the highlight of roger & me...
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 January 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Wednesday, January 5, 2011 4:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Gets v predictable tho, after you watch his Ep.1 review and go onwards - comparable to Family Guy, like you know the exact moment in which a joke isn't going to be made. They're sort on par as well, as far as that "I'm a fat serial killer" theme goes. All screaming is cut short, and the repetition shtick was never funny. But otherwise I love this guy to hell.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
If they had to "go there", a simple pan in the basement showing just a glimpse of his prisoner would have been more than enough.
The repeating, like trying to explain Junga Gin's bet with Watto, or even the "what's wrong with your face?!?!" killed me.
Funnier than the hustage scenes at least.
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
That's just the Ep.1 review tho, right? He does the same basement hostage thing in each and every review and it gets tired fast. But, again, this is me bitching because I am bored and in this democracy of ilxor feel the need to state an opinion. I love the guy.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link
at least in this third review, the majority of off-topic stuff happened at the end of the videos, so you could skip if you didn't care. although i like nadine and her betty-boop voice.
― there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i've threatened to make a fan-edit with the horror-comedy stuff excised before but it would feel too much like i was making greedo shoot first.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I never watched the new Star Warses because they looked shit, so sadly I don't get to enjoy the blissful closure provided by these rapey videos telling me they are shit
― Urban Coochie Collective (sic), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Not sure how to react when I hear comments like this. I myself haven't seen mega-blockbusters like Transformers 2 just out of lack of interest but Star Wars, of anything, is a cultural stape. Plus it's just like 2/24 hours of your day. It's not like you're committing to the army here.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
6 hrs iirc
also it is universally acknowledged to have turned out to be even shitter than it looked
also there are about 20 Hitchcock films and a year of Mad Men I haven't seen, would you argue that they should get in the queue behind Attack Of The Clones?
― Urban Coochie Collective (sic), Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link
There's plenty of quality stuff everywhere, I'm more saying that there are certain things in pop culture that almost bear a definition of being an obligation, no matter how bad they are. Like, as in, it's impossible to carry on conversation with most people without having seen them - and unlike flunkers of movies like Watchmen or Wolverine or whatever, the Star Wars prequels still continue to be discussed (of course, negatively) years upon years upon years upon years after they hit theaters.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I've still only seen 1.5 of the prequels (totally lost interest midway through Clones), and don't plan on ever "correcting" that.
― Simon H., Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
It's like you guys are trying to make me defend the films. Your choice on not seeing them, I don't care; but you're missing out on luls.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Like, as in, it's impossible to carry on conversation with most people without having seen them
I guess I'm lucky in not having run into most people
― Urban Coochie Collective (sic), Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
to get the luls we have to watch 6 hours of horrible shitty movies and then another 8 hours of rapey comedy reviews of the horrible shitty movies? idk mayne there's a shitload of Wodehouse I haven't re-read since I was 14 that's guaranteed to have a massively higher lol/time invested ratio
― Urban Coochie Collective (sic), Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
this has been confirmed independently by many people: watch the movies with the english off, and it magically becomes a jodorowskian masterpiece. this alchemy will make you question if you can ever competently judge a movie with subtitles ever again.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
If you had done it the right way, it would be 2 hours a year with intermissions of about 2-3 years between.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
note: the turn english off trick also works with the matrix
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know that the prequels have really entered the culture with any depth, other than memes like "NOOOOOOOO!" and "Jar-Jar sucks" and maybe just the generic "the prequels were shit." if you told people you hadn't seen the prequels they'd probably congratulate you tbh.
― there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
also liked the point the last review made, that the emperor is the most likable character in episode III because he's the only one displaying any sort of passion or drive.
― there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
the review is excellent and thankfully the least rapey of the three. but it made me hate myself because towards the end he complains about hayden christensen's spliced appearance at the end of jedi not making sense because the ghosts look "the way luke remembers them", and i could not keep myself from thinking that this is actually wrong, cuz the difference between vader and the others in that shot is that anakin "died" back when he looked like christensen, as in like spiritually man, and his entire existence as darth vader was a living death from which he has only now released himself, and so luke sees him as he was before he fell: the Platonic Anakin. (this is also why sebastian shaw isn't all gross and scarred and crusty in ghost-form in the un-fucked-with version.)
the reviews are very smart and accurate and cinema-literate without being myopically film-school, and they can be really educational, but mostly they're cathartic, for those of us who sat through the movies: i wouldn't really ask anyone who escaped to go back into that particular pulverized building.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that makes sense. but by that logic i'd rather platonic anakin appear as the annoying little boy version, since at least that was before he became a floppy-haired douche who whined all the time and killed sand children or w/e.
― there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
For those who haven't seen the sequels: wanna volunteer your reactions for watching just a 10min portion and seeing if it provokes any laffs/u get it? Please don't do this trying to prove me wrong, it's not an opinion I'll carry w/ me 2 tha grave.
― heh (kelpolaris), Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I KILLED THEM ALL
― those balls look like a butt (San Te), Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
THEY'RE LIKE AN ANIMAL
http://ragrobyn.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/animal-muppet.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
now that would have made the movie better
― those balls look like a butt (San Te), Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I watched the whole thing about TPM yesterday. I haven't seen 2 or 3, but just watched the first ten minutes of the 2 review. Even though I hadn't seen it, the examples he shows comparing it to -- what was that, the Last Starfighter or somthing? -- proves his point. Then again, I haven't seen the movies so I have to take his word for it.
Turned it off at the point where he was asking his hostage for coffee.
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 6 January 2011 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Commander Nefarious, Captain I'm-a-Bad-Guy & Admiral Bone-to-Pick
― trap goin hal jam (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 January 2011 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTI3lejhGg
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 6 January 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link
(this is also why sebastian shaw isn't all gross and scarred and crusty in ghost-form in the un-fucked-with version.)
Sebastian Shaw looks alot older than Hayden. I mean why isnt Ewan McGregor in place of Sir Alec Guiness now?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 January 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link
― trap goin hal jam (Pillbox), Wednesday, January 5, 2011 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
http://i.imgur.com/YP4yK.png
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 6 January 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link
also:
http://i.imgur.com/2PRHF.jpg
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 6 January 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Futurama did the name thing better, when the characters participated a Sithal War re-enactment. They fought against Darth Stroyer, Darth Trocious, Darth Sploder, Darth Urderer, and Darth Ithead.
http://pool.theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/3/3d/Darths.png/225px-Darths.png
― children with wasting diseases (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 January 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
btw sic dont let anyone talk you into seeing these movies, u made the right choice
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 6 January 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, and the reviews have a lot of interesting things to say about story structure etc, but there's no real point sitting through them if you haven't watched the prequels.
In a similar vein I watched about half of the Star Trek one last night, and it was good but there were too many references to old Trek stuff I know very little about for me to bother continuing.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 6 January 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link
haha thats my fav thing about the trek reviews... he really 'gets' trek! i love when he spots props reused in completely different movies
― Princess TamTam, Thursday, 6 January 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
"...it just goes to show the importance of... Hey, what's that doing there? No, really! How did that GET there?"
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 6 January 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Like I said, I never saw the movie and know nothing about the attempted assassination of Queen Amaladyada, but I was able to be entertained by his observations of the lack of logic of Obi jumping out the window, letting Boba Fett get away, the SHAPESHIFTER wearing a MASK, etc.
― http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 6 January 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
the funniest thing in the whole review is the shot of Sam L. Jackson with the tip of his lightsaber at the Emperor's throat, and we cut to ANAKIN, who is RUNNING into the room, but halfway across the screen he inexplicably slows to a very fast walk and kind of quick-waddles towards them
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
My favourite part of the Ep. 3 review is the clip of Lucas looking at photos of sets being built and saying "my god, they're building sets? I'd better start writing the script!"
― nate woolls, Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I love how he points out the limitations of the tiny green screen sets vs. a massive soundstage, that the actors basically have 25 feet or so to work with as they walk and stop and talk. Reminds me of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, where the running through the woods stuff was basically shot by reusing the same 30 feet of woods over and over again because they only had a limited amount of dolly tracks.
My fave bit in the Star Trek review is when he tracks on the map the progress of the elevators or whatever through the ship, revealing that a) the old Trek creators cared about such a nerdy detail (that is, that it takes x seconds to move from point a to point b in the ship) and that the nu Trek folks couldn't give a shit, since their movie is not about nerdy details, per se, but about supercharging everything. Also, he's very OTM when he details the re-quel's pervasive case of the Not Gays.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 January 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw a little bit of the first prequel and that's it. Watched all of the first review and some of the second, and thought they were lolsome.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 January 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
'A little bit of the first prequel' totalling about two viewings of ten minutes or so apiece, I guess I should clarify. Really couldn't bring myself to watch any more.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 January 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, he's very OTM when he details the re-quel's pervasive case of the Not Gays.
LOL, especially w/Scotty and Bones, since they don't have love interests in the movie.
― children with wasting diseases (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 January 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
cuz obi-wan remained in the light until his death and anakin strayed from it when he was younger. and yeah shaw was a lot older than christensen but back then we didn't know how old anakin was when he became vader or what he looked like or anything and a cleaned-up and smiling middle-aged guy worked fine.
like, this isn't some hugely important part of the movie and obv it is extremely dorky to argue about and it's probable george lucas has no idea what we're talking about and just shoved christensen in there in his mania to "link up" the two halves of his "vision" but this explanation makes more sense to me than "they look as luke remembers them", which if it were true would presumably require anakin to appear in a big scary suit.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
They should've done the same thing in Godfather III with Fredo, the Don and Sonny.
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― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 January 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucas shoulda done 'pocket prequels' and made em all like trailer length instead
― mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Saturday, 8 January 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.movieline.com/2011/01/george-lucas-believes-in-2012-for-real-says-concerned-citizen-seth-rogen.php
In a new Toronto Sun article, Rogen explains that a meeting with Lucas and Spielberg soured once the subject turned to Mayan calendar drama.
“George Lucas sits down and seriously proceeds to talk for around 25 minutes about how he thinks the world is gonna end in the year 2012, like, for real. He thinks it.
“He’s going on about the tectonic plates and all the time Spielberg is, like, rolling his eyes, like, ‘My nerdy friend won’t shut up, I’m sorry…’
“I first thought he (Lucas) was joking… and then I totally realized he was serious and then I started thinking, ‘If you’re George Lucas and you actually think the world is gonna end in a year, there’s no way you haven’t built a spaceship for yourself… So I asked him… ‘Can I have a seat on it?’
“He claimed he didn’t have a spaceship, but there’s no doubt there’s a Millennium Falcon in a garage somewhere with a pilot just waiting to go… It’s gonna be him and Steven Spielberg and I’ll be blown up like the rest of us.”
― Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link
So Star Wars came into being just so he could have inspired enough geeks to create spaceships so one of them could take him away somewhere? With Spielberg?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Spielberg is, like, rolling his eyes, like, ‘My nerdy friend won’t shut up, I’m sorry…’
Makes me wonder what it must be like for Spielberg to still be friends with GL, (particularly after the SW prequels). GL *must* have asked him what he thought and would he just lie? say "they're not for me"? I mean S/berg at least can still make a decent film, so to see one of his oldest and richest pals actively desecrating his own legacy in new and exciting ways every year must affect the dynamic of their friendship. Especially as this is the man whose input made sure that the last Indy film was dead in the water.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Hang on now--Spielberg is the force behind Michael Bay's Transformers shitfests, and the man responsible for foisting Shia Lebouef on the world, so don't be giving him too much credit
― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link
plus yeah, i'm just as inclined to blame spielberg as lucas for that last indy shitfest.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link
foisting Shia Lebouef on the world
balls, that shit almost cancels out AI for me...
as for Indy blame, from what I understand it was Lucas that actively vetoed Frank Darabont's script and went with his own Mayan temple fixated horseshit, and that turd remained resolutely unpolished. Guess Spielberg can be blamed for agreeing to make the fucking thing, but the underpinning garbage = all GL.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link
If it wasn't for the piles of money he sleeps on at night, I'd call Lucas a tragic figure
― Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
from what I understand it was Lucas that actively vetoed Frank Darabont's script and went with his own Mayan temple fixated horseshit, and that turd remained resolutely unpolished. Guess Spielberg can be blamed for agreeing to make the fucking thing, but the underpinning garbage = all GL.
The actual screenplay was written by the guy who wrote the screenplay for Jurassic Park and its sequel, though. And I thought the whole alien plot was right up Spielberg's alley, after all he has been directing and producing various alien movies and TV series since 1977.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Both are 100% establishment hacks now and no doubt both have complete respect for each other as such.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
spielberg doesnt seem like the kind of guy who'd be tortured over not being able to tell his friend that his movies suck - is probably just happy to nod and smile and be nice about it
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
It's like if your mate's in a band that you think are shit you just pretend that you like their band and hope they don't ask too many questions about why you like them.
― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Spielberg has produced tons of films, including Harry and the Hendersons and the live-action Flintstones and Casper movies. The movies he has directed himself - the latest IJ aside - have been pretty great.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I was surprised to see his name in the credits for True Grit.
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
GL: Say, Steve, so what did you make of The Revenge of The Sith?SS: George, I thought it was just super, rly great. Also, Admiral Bone-To-Pick, I *loved* that guy.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Spielberg's last seven films as director are pretty patchy and there's a couple of outright disasters
2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 2005 Munich 2005 War of the Worlds 2004 The Terminal 2002 Catch Me If You Can 2002 Minority Report 2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
At least four of those movies are among the best he's ever done!
BTW, Spielberg helped storyboard and pre-viz the Anakin/Obi-Wan lava fight at the end of Revenge Of The Sith, so there you go.
― you think you're cool, but you read ick (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
The Terminal and A.I. suck and I haven't seen the last Indy movie, but the other movies are fine
― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, I adored AI, really liked Munich, CMIFC and WoTW and could probably watch Minority and The Terminal again. Only real stinker there imo is poor ol' Indy.
Re Anakin/Obi-Wan fight, apart from the skipping about on the river of lava I dug that well enough. Certainly chopped up charred up Ani was more than I expected to see so vividly rendered.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Crystal Skull - Crystal Shit more likeMunich - Very goodWar of the Worlds - nice action, otherwise mehThe Terminal - Horribly misjudged IMO. Should've been a flat-out quirky comedyCatch Me if You Can - Great fun on first viewing, tiring on second. Also kind of sexist.Minority Report - Fantastic until the final actA.I. - I thought it was a mess with a few great ideas when I saw it in the cinema, maybe I should watch it again
― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
The Terminal and AI (although i know it has it's defenders) were the disasters i was referring to. Catch Me If You Can and Minority Report really don't hold up on repeat viewings. War of the Worlds pretty much sucks.
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude directed The Lost World, cannot be trusted.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a movie worth watching! though it sounds like a south park premise.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
this was a Simpsons episode, and a live Kids in the Hall bit (and Mr. Show too, iirc?)
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Spielberge is on record as saying ..Clones is his 'second favourite Star Wars film'. also he features a fair bit in the extras on the prequels dvds apparantly although i haven't seen em.
are Munich and Catch Me If You Can any good then? i thought Speilberg was a washout these days but maybe.. not?
― piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Munich is great, Catch Me If You Can is charming.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw the Robot Chicken version of Munich the other night. Yikes
― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
there's some weird backwards thing going on with spielberg where the movies are executed with more confidence the further back in time you go.i have nothing but hate for michael bay but you get the sense that the man has a clear and willful sense of exactly what kind of shit he's going to make you endure.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
2005 Munich
2005 War of the Worlds
2004 The Terminal
2002 Catch Me If You Can
2002 Minority Report
2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence
Though I haven't seen the Indy, did any other director have as good a run in the 00s?
― ryan, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
coen bros, wachowski bros, any bros I suppose.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
who were the brothers that did "from hell"?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
hughes
― Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
found munich v boring, heavy and overrated, but mostof his other 00's work was good to great imo. Indy aside obv
― Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link
s1ocki started this thread to suggest options for a poll, but did we ever do a poll thread of this?
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
all the 00's movies are kind of OK passtime, but c'mon:
1989 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 1987 Empire of the Sun 1985 The Color Purple 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 1983 Twilight Zone: The Movie (segment 2) 1982 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:38 PM Bookmark
no point, building meter data would win
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Blu Ray trailer looks good despite it combining prequel footage with the originals: http://www.starwars.com/video/view/001175.html
― piscesx, Thursday, 27 January 2011 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Love the originals, but I'm almost completely numb to these movies right now. All those shoddy VFX spliced into the originals will look even WORSE in high-def.
― Millsner, Thursday, 27 January 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucas must be the only director that would look at a frame of film with Sir Alec Guinness in it and think "You know what would make this even better? A giant dinosaur butt blocking the entire frame."
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
A long time ago in another lifetime, I was in a screening room sitting in front of the late Gene Siskel. This was after the first "special edition" came out, and around the same time a new edition of "The Godfather" was screened. Someone asked him how it was, and he said "oh, it's pretty much the same, except now in the wedding scene there's a big giant lizard in the background. And during Brando's death scene, there's a little robot walking around."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
If Lucas thinks the world will end next year, won't that (with any luck) stop him 3ding these fuckers? No point, surely, since they won't be out in time.
― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
is there any more 2012 ho-lucas-t information besides the seth rogen hearsay?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucas is waiting until he can release these in 4-D, in Smell-O-Vision.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 January 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I love the smell of bantha shit in the morning.
― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Thursday, 27 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I recently watched anamorphically re-encoded versions of the originals that came out on the 2006 DVD release and it was such a pleasure! I'd almost forgot that they could be enjoyable. They're obviously GREAT movies in their original form, but the special editions are simply unwatchable. Despite the egregious and anachronistic cgi insertions, the whole thing has been color-corrected to death.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
The only thing I truly found about the increases sfx editions was the really bizarre song break-out in Jabba's bar in the 1st or 2nd (or..3rd?) movie. And I'm not even sure if that was actually one of the deleted scenes, but it was truly fucking insane.
And I guess while I'm at it I can't seem to remember the first encounter w/ Jabba and Han Solo actually having him mobile and talking to Han on the way to the m. falcon? Was that even changed? Did it always look so awful?
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 28 January 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link
song was in the 3rd one. they shot it just for the SE.
in the 70s version han talks to jabba offscreen. theatrical SE and the current editions have very different versions of that scene, mainly because the original CG jabba looked fucking awful even by 1997 standards.
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Friday, 28 January 2011 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Xp yeah.
Han never meets him in the first film, they added the whole scene by cgi-ing Jabba over the original actor from a scene that was deleted. Et voila!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWq71Y5-B4
To confuse things further they re-CGI'd the scene a bit for the DVD in '04 to make it more realistic than the original re-releases that came out in the late 90s. http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/ec/Ataleoftwohutts.jpg
There are yet more changes planned for the new Blu Ray edition. He probably.. flies in or something.
― piscesx, Friday, 28 January 2011 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link
http://johnkennethmuir.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/duneharkonnen.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 January 2011 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow, Friday, January 28, 2011 12:52 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
Those are pretty awful DVD transfers though. I have a strong suspicion that Lucas deliberately made sure that the DVD transfers of the non-special editions were half-assed.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 28 January 2011 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh this is precisely why this is so sad - Lucas has actually ruined your memory
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link
any good write-ups on what lucas has to say about the new editions? all i've heard is that he's fairly proud of them and that his vision can finally be completed w/ the ease of sfx.
i can't deny the guy is a grade-a definition visionary (YOU try simply imagining a universe as unique and in-depth as the star wars one) but i really can't believe the guy when thinking that back in the 70's, as he was gazing at the sarlacc pit that he had thought "if only this had a beak, then it would be complete" (it's a FUCKING MOUTH IN THE GROUND. how horrifying/ novel is that already?)
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 28 January 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Did not know about the Jabba CGI re-do. Weird. Also, i totally agree with kelpolaris re: the only real big jarring problem was the singing scene in ROTJ. Sorta felt like the moment you saw that, you knew you had been sucked from the normal universe of OG Star Wars into the parallel dimension of hell that is Jar Jar Binks & Kit Fisto.
There's a great DVD bootleg someone's put together called "Deleted Magic", which is the first Star Wars with all the outtakes and unreleased footage synced up to the original Laserdisc film and shit. Absolutely jaw-dropping and a million times more enjoyable than anything past ROTJ.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 January 2011 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link
UGH I HATE THAT JABBA SCENE. like i'm a grown-up now and i don't CARE about all the rest, i don't CARE that greedo shoots first, i don't CARE about the dinosaur butts, i don't CARE that there's little bullshit animals scampering around every establishing shot farting, i don't care about any of it EXCEPT THE JABBA SCENE god i hate it so so so so so so much. so much.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 06:23 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh that first picture is really funny. looks like jabba is tripping his balls off
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 January 2011 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link
he's watching the scene on the monitor.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link
? i meant offscreen as in a scene not shown
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Friday, 28 January 2011 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link
They need to make Alec guiness step in dinosaur poop. In 3d.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 January 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Think of the possibilities.
what's infuriating about the jabba scene is that despite what george lucas says because he has some kind of seriously sick thing where every time he changes anything he has to act like that was his "original intention", like he had every second of every scene of every star wars movie all written out in his giant genius-head in 1976, that scene was shot with a human actor not so they could replace him with jabba (how would they have done this) but because that was jabba, because they didn't know what jabba looked like yet, and hadn't yet had the wonderful idea of making him into this obscene punch-cartoon parody of a swollen-to-immobility space capitalist, and thank god they cut the scene because A) it's a literally pointless scene anyway that slows the movie down for absolutely no reason and B) if they hadn't jabba would be a guy in a furry vest instead of an icon. an icon george lucas doesn't even understand the first thing about because he thinks it's acceptable to have him scooting around the set like he's in fucking Worms.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link
The transfer isn't Blu-ray, but these have at least been re-encoded by someone for widescreen tv. They are quite a bit better than the old laserdiscs which were the previously final "untouched" version. It's highly watchable and I very strongly recommend it!!!
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 28 January 2011 07:15 (thirteen years ago) link
the special editions came out when i was 11 or 12, and they were the first time i saw all of the movies. previously i'd seen at least one of the star wars, but i cant remember which one. i thought all the special content was awesome, but that was both at the age and time when CGI imagery was at its most novel to me. since the movies were still amazing, i went for years not really thinking the SEs were any kind of major transgression. i hadnt seen any of them again until this last christmas, when i was at my friend's house and he had them on in the background on his plasma. i caught the end of Star Wars and was pleased to see that it still held up really well even after the prequels, and i appreciated the practical effects in a way I couldn't before. had to skip Empire, but when we sat down for the opening of ROTJ my eyes bulged in... amazement? at the tarted up CGI musical number that'd been inserted into the jabba's palace sequence. how did i forget this? why would you replace a kickin rad rubber puppet disco song with this shit? that was the moment when i 'got' all the bitching about greedo shooting first.
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Friday, 28 January 2011 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess the maddening thing about lucas is he could so easily use his powers for good. he has the resources to give us cleaned up, gorgeous transfers of the original trilogy, where every frame isn't crowded with computer generated farting banthas. he financed the prequels himself! he had nobody to answer to! he could've made literally anything he wanted. imagine if you gave jodorowsky 400 million and told him to make ~the space opera of his dreams~. the original space battle in ROTJ is (very likely) the most complicated trad effects sequence ever shot, and you can tell lucas hates it because episode 3 is filled with the kind of long, showy takes that couldn't have been done with models. there's nothing boundary-pushing about all that processing power onscreen, and it's deflating in a way because it illustrates the limits of his ambitions - just like there's nothing to be gained from overexplaining a tantalizing backstory, the VFX of the original trilogy (and lucas' own mythologizing around the time of the SEs) makes you think 'oh, there's so much he wanted to show us but just couldn't!' - but it turned out that the original movies thrived on those limitations, and him going back and splashing white-out on everything amounts less to ~movie magic~ and more to pulling the curtain back on the wizard of oz.
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:03 (thirteen years ago) link
he financed the prequels himself! he had nobody to answer to! he could've made literally anything he wanted.
^^ this is sort of the problem, isnt it? i mean for me one of the big tragedies/disappointments was the realization that george lucas is boring, lazy and untalented
― max, Friday, 28 January 2011 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
& it makes you go back to the original trilogy wondering if youd just been fooled the whole time
― max, Friday, 28 January 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah thats what im getting at - what he wanted was boring and awful
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link
it's like poetry, it rhymes
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:13 (thirteen years ago) link
How much of Indiana Jones was him and how much was Spielberg?
― polyphonic, Friday, 28 January 2011 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link
― Lamp, Friday, 28 January 2011 08:16 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X__nksxQxys
What I want is an entire disc of Empire stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyaAJ2JMjcM
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Thing about Lucas having total control is that history has shown that the best stuff came from when he had no say at all. He was off working on Raiders when they did ESB, for example, or the bit(possibly mentioned upthread) where Harrison Ford told Mark Hamill just to say what he thought worked rather than what Lucas had typed.
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:24 (thirteen years ago) link
how did i forget this? why would you replace a kickin rad rubber puppet disco song with this shit?
^This. The replacement of the original song with that GODAWFUL CGI cartoon thing, plus the replacement of the original "Yub Nub" celebration song, were the straws that broke the camel's back for me with the special editions when they came out. Greedo shooting first, whatevs. BUT DON'T YOU MESS WITH MY BELOVED EWOKS!
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link
You know, if all Lucas had done was clean up the prints, maybe polish up some of the dodgier old effects (smoothing out matte lines, etc.) it would have been fine!
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link
In retrospect we were all pretty well warned about where Episode 1 was headed.
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago) link
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yeah, the thing about movies is that they are first & foremost collaborative. the director is obviously important but there are a million other reasons why movies turn out to be terrible or awesome. often it's the combination of people involved, not just the director's "vision".
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 08:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"i can't deny the guy is a grade-a definition visionary (YOU try simply imagining a universe as unique and in-depth as the star wars one)"
The thing is, the Star Wars "universe" isn't particularly unique or special for a space opera. Most of it is basically a hodgepodge of 30's serials, Star Trek (in the opening scene Vader even says "set phasers to stun"), Herbert's Dune, and a bunch of other shit that was around. The main way in which Star Wars broke ground was formally--the relentless, kinetic pace (can you think of any other 70's flick that moves as FAST?) the zippy editing, and of course the effects/production design.
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i remember seeing some doc from years ago where one of the production designers was explaining that the reason so much of the space gear in star wars felt real was that they had just raided normal household items - like plastic garbage can lids, or the wheel that you'd wrap a garden hose around - reconfigured them and painted them. so most of the visual stuff wasn't just "invented" ex nihilo. when it's all CGI, though, it is. you lose that serendipity, and that connection to the world of normal functional things
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 January 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, the lived-in-future thing was a big contribution to movie Sci-Fi and Ridley Scott took it even further with Alien/Blade Runner (a lot of the same people were involved IIRC)
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link
It's when Lucas has too much of a hand in the script *and* the direction that things truly go kablooey. Raiders, for example, had Philip Kaufman and Lawrence Kasdan writing, with Spielberg directing. Empire had Kasdan again and Kershner. Forget who directed Jedi, but Kasdan was involved in the writing of that, too. But really those prequels were all Lucas/Lucas joints.
(Looking at past credits, the husband/wife team of Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz seem to be early enablers. Looks like those losers more or less threw in the towel after the Howard the Duck debacle.)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 January 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Some good analysis on this thread recently, well done everyone. OTM that the production design is a big part of what makes the originals special; pretty much every costume, set and vehicle was instantly and effortlessly iconic. That married to fairly simple, solid stories easily explains the OT's massive enduring appeal.
― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 28 January 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw the late-90s re-release of Star Wars in the theater. When Jabba's eyes bulged out after Solo stepped on his tail, one guy groaned "Aw, the fuck was that?" It made my night and pretty much set my don't-give-a-shit attitude about Lucas adding more tap dance numbers and pazuzu statues or whatever.
I mean, my memory is always going to be Greedo shooting first. The only difference between what Lucas has done and Vader-playing-the-harmonica on YouTube is $400 million. I can watch the new versions without erasing in my head what I saw the first time.
Shame about the kids who haven't seen the originals, but they've got Lord of the Rings instead anyway.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 28 January 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Um
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 January 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha, I meant Solo. Dammit.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 28 January 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Planning on voting for Osama next time.
my memory is Greedo shooting first, albeit with a very faint blaster beam, and even back in '97 I was wondering why people were complaining about it. Dunno what's wrong with my head tbh.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
depending on how dorky you are, this can be a really fascinating read, especially since most of what i'd read previously about the making of all these movies, going all the way back to the first one, had basically been propaganda. george lucas is a weird, weird guy.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm repeating myself at this point (we all are) but i think for the prequels, lucas didn't or for some reason just couldn't understand the story he himself was telling.
the original trilogy of movies are mythic adventure stories. you can be kind of disconnected from real people with real concerns and still tell an exciting story in that mode (in any case, lucas was still "tethered" by other people who had some control over what happened in those productions)
the prequel trilogy is about politics and love, ie human desire on a mass and individual level. the objective of the prequels is to tell how the stark good-vs-evil conflict of the original movies is the result of an earlier world of competing desires. and it's p clear that lucas doesn't have much understanding of that kind of thing at all, least of all the desires of audiences, who he feels will be awed by frame after frame that is at once totally static and crammed to the gills with useless details.
― goole, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
It never really even occurred to me whether Greedo or Han shot first, as it was obv they were never going to kill of Han moments after introducing him. With essential characters the statistics never apply... they always get out by sheer will or magic coincidence/last moment saving, but nonetheless survive. But I guess it really is more of a triviality that nerds like to obsess over just out of nerd-joi, less than any actual theories that had greedo shot first that star wars would have been radically changed as a story.
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
What if JFK had shot first.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
xp -- i think the idea is that having greedo shoot first neuters the content of the scene--that han is a slightly dark character, a rogue, who distracts someone and then casually shoots him dead. greedo shooting makes explicit that han is acting in self-defense. it's ridiculous for two reasons: one, it undermines han's arc in the movie, which is from self-serving rogue to revolutionary soldier; two, it makes "self-defense" absurdly literal, since even in the original version greedo is clearly about to shoot han in the face and it's not like han is gunning someone down in cold blood; three, it makes absolutely no sense that a professional bounty hunter would miss a totally static target from two feet away.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
it's ridiculous for two reasons, and a special bonus reason if you act now.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
a triviality that nerds like to obsess over just out of nerd-joi, less than any actual theories that had greedo shot first that star wars would have been radically changed as a story.
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think the complaint is that in 1977 lucas was ok with the idea of one of his heroes being sort of dangerous and adult and morally questionable. but, given the chance to do it over again, he made sure there was no chance the most childish good-guy sensibility isn't threatened at all. it's about lucas withdrawal from an adult world of thinking persons.
xp :)
― goole, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
"YOU try simply imagining a universe as unique and in-depth as the star wars one"this is easy, especially given star wars' mashup origins.kurosawa movie + scifi trappings + new age mysticismso:Rashomon + robots & lasers + astrology:
Gemini Jaxon is accused in robocourt of murdering and roboraping Pisces Piscariot, and their memories have been subpoenaed for evidence,but a mysterious syzygy scrambles the data producing a multi-layered and contradictory testimony. The Libra Liberation Front disrupts the trialusing lasers, resuces Gemini Jaxon and they are off to have adventures as seven magnificent cyber samurai.
imagining is easy. selling it is hard. lucas is a good salesman. even for the prequels, I mean we all ended up watching them.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
well, Rashomon isnt exactly the Kurosawa movie that comes to mind! maybe The Hidden Fortress.
― ryan, Friday, 28 January 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
oh i see what you were doing, ha!
― ryan, Friday, 28 January 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJXU7EVXs2A
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:35 (1 hour ago)
it's not just that it horribly alters and largely ruins the Han character, it's that the scene now looks awkward as fuck. As does Han stepping over Jabba's tail and all the other bullshit that's in the "special editions."
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 28 January 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
oh myhttp://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/george-lucas-has-50-hours-of-star-wars-tv-series/217089
― piscesx, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
someone stop him - its the wookie xmas special gone mad
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
"waiting for the technology to catch up"
― piscesx, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
4-D reverse time implants.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Eco-friendly solar powered digital hi-def turd polisher
― England's banh mi army (ledge), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
"waiting for the technology to bring the world an even more annoying JAR JAR character. You're welcome world"
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if he's waiting for some kind of full actor replacement technology
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Almost -- full audience replacement technology is probably the real dream.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
waiting for the technology that will be able to create software which is able to generate a 50 hour script up to the high standards expected from star wars
shouldn't take too long
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder if he ever releases all the Star Wars pr0n he has in his vault at Gringolds
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
You know what? I finally have forgiven Lucas for Jar Jar Binks - as I sold the lego figure of him for £7. Damn, people pay a lot for Star Wars lego figures.
― such a shame (jel --), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.warpbreach.com/8/jarjarsuck.jpg
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
Plus, I do really like "Revenge of the Sith" or the "Perils of Emo" as it should be called.
Those Jar Jar things, what are they? That's the stuff of nightmares.
― such a shame (jel --), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
ugh - unpost that!
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
one thing we can all thank Lucas for is the wonderfull "Backstroke of the West"
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
That's a Jar-Jar fleshlight, isn't it
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, I just typed that
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
Meantime, io9 has things to say about this TV series story.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Those are Jar Jar Binks lollipops, aka the worst marketing idea ever conceived. It's a plastic Jar Jar head with a CANDY TONGUE.
I am not mad at the person who suggested making a candy that would have kids making out with an alien to eat it; that person is hilarious and deserves a medal. I am mad at the person who greenlighted this as a good licensing idea and even went so far as to get engineers to build an assembly line machine that could create candy Jar Jar tongues.
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
50 hours mapped out = 4 characters designed, pilot and second episode written in his head, happy ending planned
― nuclear power, jet propulsion, radar, laser beams, cordless phone (abanana), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
please do not ever use the phrase "happy ending" in conjunction with George Lucas
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
for all we know that's jar jars genital genital
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
jar jars genital genital whut whut
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
jar jar genital genital whut whut cheese cheese
― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.filmdailies.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/jarhead.jpg
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
I wish the part of jar jar had been played by Grover
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
I can't even imagine
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Lucas claimed that while TV budgets are one-tenth of those in cinema, the ability to make a credible TV show at such lower costs does not yet exist.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
george lucas knows credibility
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
as long as youcan make light sabers and blaster blasts, if you can write a good story and dialog, its a go. of course I like the terrible BBC doctor who effects too
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
if you can write a good story and dialog
ahhhh
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
there's the rub i guess
the dialog in the second prequel made me want to bash anakin with a jar jar pop
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
lucas should be tonguing one of those jar jar pops at every press conference and just wipe his hands and face off with hundred dollar bills when he's done
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that he doesn't dress like Mr. Monopoly is offensive to me
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/gallery1988sf/Olly/IMG_1338.jpg
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
my 5 year old was finally exposted to the Phantom Menace this week, he did not appear to enjoy any of it
we started watching attack of the clones and he was grossed out by the kissing. However, I thought it was pretty good, having skipped it in the theaters at the time. The scenes with the clones in little bottles was neat, anyway.
― akm, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
the prequels improve in quality as they go along IMO
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
"he killed younglings"
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe it was due to my radically decreasing enthusiasm as the series went on, but I thought phantom menace was the best (though still terrible). The "action" and "romance" in the other two was terrifyingly inept.
Oh, and Yoda leaping around and kicking ass is 1000000x more of a problem than greedo shooting first.
― ryan, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Yoda leaping around and kicking ass was great in exactly the same way that the dancing zombies in the "Thriller" video were great
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Thriller was meant to be funny, Attack of the Clones wasn't
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
the po-faced seriousness of a Yoda/Dooku lightsaber battle
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
he looked like a frog on cocaine
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
Well, yeah
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
I mean there's nothing in any of the prequels to suggest Lucas had any sense of humour about what he was doing. I refer you to the Darth Vader "NOOOOOOO" scene in the third film (which is definitely the worst, although it's a fairly pointless distinction when they're all so terrible.)
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
"DO NOT WANT!!"
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
"NOOOOO" was one of the best moments in the trilogy. At least it produces a reaction other than boredom (laughter).
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
"I've become more powerful that any Jedi!"Yeah sure Dooku, that's why you threw a bunch of shit around and then jumped in a spaceship and RAN AWAY.
― got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
I love Phantom Menace, Lucas's cheery ode to Song of the South.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
I mean there's nothing in any of the prequels to suggest Lucas had any sense of humour about what he was doing.
You think Yoda hobbling up with a crutch, slowly laying it down, brandishing a lightsaber, and then flipping around all over the place like a pachinko ball during the fight, after which he slowly bent over to retrieve his crutch and hobbled away WASN'T intentional humor????
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
I can't believe I'm still chuckling at "DO NOT WANT!!" after all these years
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
or Anakin and Obi-Wan having a mini bitch fit at each other while tied to pillars in the gladiator arena while Padme climbed on top of hers and throttled a monster with her chain was unintentionally funny?
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I really don't think you understand George Lucas DJP
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think you understand Star Wars movies!
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
like, all six of them are packed with stuff like this, aside maybe from "Revenge of the Sith"
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think I understand CGI
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I don't consider the prequels to have anything to do with the original trilogy to be honest. They're entirely different in tone and execution.
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
execution, yes; tone, not so much
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
finally watched the yoda fight on youtube (saw I & III but somehow I only caught two minutes at a friends house of a movie named "Attack Of The Clones"). Somehow forgot he'd be an animation now rather than a puppet.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
tbh these days I enjoy the Family Guy/Robot Chicken Star Wars parodies way more than I enjoy any of the Star Wars films
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
The shots of him twirling around mid-air are nice but the dialogue and footage of animated characters grimacing at floating animated objects didn't really do it for me
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
actually twirling emperor might even be funnier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRd9PGmAQUE
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
This is where i give up
― Number None, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
it's just that there is no reason for anyone operating from anything like a position of fairness to give the original trilogy a pass; those movies are very enjoyable, but they are also very, very stupid, in all of the same ways that the prequel trilogy is stupid
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think george lucas has been fair to us, why should we be fair to george lucas
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah they're all stupid, but I don't think all the qualities that make the original trilogy likable are in the latter batch
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
it is true that George gave us Jar Jar, but then Jar Jar is directly responsible for the rise of the Empire which kind of redeems the existence of the character and cements him as not merely useless, but actively dangerous/detrimental
well no, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Billy Dee Williams are not in the latter batch
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
Original trilogy is stupid in the same way that Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon is stupid. Prequel trilogy is stupid in the same way that Beverley Hills 90210/Baywatch is stupid.
― got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
george lucas won't let me buy a widescreen copy of the original movies without his goofy ass cgi additions, if he doesn't like people overrating the movies of their youth at the expense of his crappy animated hayden christiansen vehicles, he can go cry on a pile of money
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6d1dR2170o
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
6 hours of bonus features - one is an hour long still pic of Lucas you can pray to
― Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
the most hilarious thing about the CGIed originals is the confrontation in Star Wars between Han and Jabba where they had to insert a reaction shot of Han stepping on Jabba's tail because the original blocking wasn't wide enough to accommodate Jabba's character model
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
the thing i like about the plunkett reviews is that he almost totally ignores jar jar - too easy a target when there's so many deep-seated flaws to go after
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
my favorite thing from them - which i'm sure i referenced upthread - is the pussified scream one-armed Luke gives as he falls in Empire. What was a silent "fuck you, dad" fall becomes AH, I SLIPPESD!
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
haha the caption for this video says it was removed from the DVD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaXgK5HRBjk
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
all of the planetary/Death Star explosions are hilarious, too
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
man just even look at the set design in that clip...shit's epic. computers shomputers, gimme a stunt falling down a disco tunnel
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
otm!
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
a stunt guy, i mean xpost
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCg0rGfH-w
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
:54
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
"hilarious"
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
i dont even have to watch it, i remember perfectly how awkwardly han 'steps' over jabba's tail - sorta like this:
http://m.assetbar.com/uua6Ptg4Q.gif
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
and then jabba's eyes bulge comically
when george lucas dies he's going to be sent to a CGI heaven I tell you. "oh these are just as good as your real dead relatives...just as good! BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol TamTam OTM
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
this is the single worst thing in the special editions though & i will entertain no arguments otherwise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
omg I had forgotten about that
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
haha i never saw jedi redux except for 2 minutes on spike, where they'd turned the sand monster into the plant from Little Shop Of Horrors
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
TamTam otm about that abominable music
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
see I just think all of that shit is hysterical
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
hey if I could still get the original I'd love it if lucas would drop CGI remixes of all kinds of old school movies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
he could fill in all those empty landscapes in Once Upon a Time in the West with delightful scampering critters and blink-and-you'll-miss-them extras
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
i do have to admit that seeing episode 2 on opening night with a crowd of fairly clued-in adults was one of the best comedy experiences of my life - i can remember the exact moment when the audience collectively decided to accept that the movie was a comedy, and it was during the scene where padme appears by a fireplace wearing a pleather space-gown
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
I have the originals (on VHS, but still) so
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
Frank Miller's later Batman stuff (Dark Knight Strikes Back, All-Star Batman) are irreverent rebukes of previous works that I actually enjoy and admire, Lucas I laugh at more than I laugh with, and however silly his crimes against humanity are, i still would sentence him to the pinkbelly of a lifetime
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
I think all these pale before the crimes of Christopher Nolan.
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
Christopher Nolan vs Jerry Schumacher
― Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
morbz, take this troll doll and show us where nolan touched you
― da croupier, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
Inversion
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
i can remember the exact moment when the audience collectively decided to accept that the movie was a comedy, and it was during the scene where padme appears by a fireplace wearing a pleather space-gown
Same experience -- the audience did a "Mystery Science Theatre" type thing, except we saw her appearing AS a fireplace.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
lol at Ned
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rQaWa.jpg
??full picture here: http://twitpic.com/photos/shintarokago
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
dudes at this website the pirate bay they have torrents of the original trilogy in widescreen and unfucked with (rips are from the laser discs iirc). just sayin.
― Clay, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
padame has real nipples
― Latham Green, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
From the Onion AV Club review of the "American Graffiti" blu-ray out today:
Never one to leave well enough alone, Lucas did some unnecessary tinkering on the new edition, most notably by digitally enhancing the opening shot to look more like a picture postcard than a real-world ’60 diner. The Blu-ray also looks artificially crisp for a low-budget movie from 1973; it’s true that American Graffiti has never looked better, but should it look this good? Nevertheless, Lucas’ busy hands doesn’t diminish the impact of a film that’s clearly personal and heartfelt, and now represents a rare opportunity to access a director who receded as his iconic status rose.
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
Was pretty let down when I saw graffiti - it might be personal and heartfelt for lucas but its not much less sitcom than an American Pie movie. Admittedly the movie might have been more striking before wistful recollections of teen loserdom were common.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
i found graffiti to be better than i expected! it reminded me that, y'know, as easy as it is to think of Star Wars as a flash in the pan, he went 3-for-3 as a director in the 70s...
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
i still think graffiti is wonderful, not least for how well Lucas is able to evoke a certain atmosphere, be it the eerieness of their 'inspiration point' when terry the toad gets his motorcar stolen, or the weirdness of the second hand car dealership, or how subtle and melancholy the whole scene with the clearly-philandering teacher is. it's a pretty magical film, imho, and the flamingoes' 'i only have eyes for you' never sounded better.
― You made the right choice, Deanne... (stevie), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
also, that it has such a rosy nostalgic glow for a film that's looking only 11 years back... that's kind of unimaginable today.
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
The scene with Terry the Toad trying to buy liquor and finding success via a stickup man still makes me LOL. And that hairdo on Candy Clark.
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 1, 2011 2:45 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
you know, this is what sort of astonished me about it when i saw it very recently...
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
What about, like, Adventureland? Granted that the time difference is a little larger in that case, but surely there are plenty of examples of young directors making nostalgia films about their younger days?
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
a little larger? more than twice as many years difference...
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
The Wackness
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
The Wedding Singer! Haha
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
wedding singer's a good one, because 'lol80s' wasnt really a 'thing' back when they made that
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
what I meant, poly, is the social upheavals between 1962-73 are as about as extreme as you had in America for a 20th century decade. It would've seemed like a nearly unrecognizable world to teens watching it in '73.
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
You're probably right about that. I think Peter Fonda mentioned something about it in a Time Life infomercial I watched.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
― ( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
I like when Darth Vadar wipes his ass - wait. wrong thread
― Latham Green, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
so Lucas didn't add titles to the epilogue about what happened to the girls? Some things never change.
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
Diner >>>>>>> American Graffiti
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ polyphonic
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
i was dere
also i saw a re-release of AG with my dad in '78 and explained to him that driving around aimlessly on a Saturday night was something I'd read about kids in California doing.
― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― You made the right choice, Deanne... (stevie), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i totally plan to pull that bullshit on my kids about the internet
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
<3 babymorbz explaining to his dad the cultural underlyings of films they saw together
― all cats are gay (sic), Thursday, 2 June 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
Kinda wish that this were really the case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BMgegut3UM
― Millsner, Thursday, 2 June 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
American Graffiti rocks no question.
here's the 'unspecialized' original Jabba party scene:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TNRyhF8qwA
the music wasn't much better tbh!
― piscesx, Thursday, 2 June 2011 08:42 (twelve years ago) link
are you kidding, that song is great! frenetic, tight, almost no-wave. like james chance or something.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 June 2011 09:39 (twelve years ago) link
mm i like Nub Yub at the end of the 80s Jedi and was horrified by the new age waffley bollocks they replaced it with but this track never made much of an impact really.
― piscesx, Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
original jedi song is great! yub nub also rules.
― in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link
i like that the jabba party music sounds exotic; in the special editions it's this really shitty cartoon blues shit
― in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:48 (twelve years ago) link
no l'ap ti nek, no credibility
― You made the right choice, Deanne... (stevie), Thursday, 2 June 2011 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
In some special somewhere the original English language version of that track was playing before Ben Burtt did the Huttese thing to it and it's a total aerobics anthem. The chorus is literally "I'm shaping up and working out!"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2011 13:17 (twelve years ago) link
Okay so HERE'S something weird. First, a video we all know and love (perhaps):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyIaNWP0T0
So it turns out there's a slew of sources claiming Lucas directed this! A bit of further scrounging asserts that Lucasfilm Commercial Productions definitely produced it but there's a debate as to whether it was Lucas himself who did this or some dude named Steven Würnitzer. Anyone have any more info? (As da croupier said elsewhere, he always figured Fincher directed it.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
cite slew
― undeɹrated ærosm?th b∞tlegs I have pwned (sic), Saturday, 2 July 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
Guess he's definitely giving up on directing forever, because it was my understanding that he was going to direct this:
Fans have long known that the daring aerobatics of World War II were a major inspiration in the making of the space battles in the Star Wars saga. George Lucas and his production team have captured the rush of aerial dogfights aboard P-51 Mustangs while telling an inspiring story based on real events in the next major motion picture production from Lucasfilm: Red Tails.A high-flying action epic inspired by the heroic exploits of the first all African-American aerial combat unit, Red Tails will launch on January 20, 2012, released by Twentieth Century Fox. Produced by Rick McCallum and Charles Floyd Johnson, the gripping WWII action movie is directed by Anthony Hemingway ("Treme," "The Wire," "Battlestar Galactica")."I am humbled and honored to direct the story of the Tuskegee Airmen -- heroes who have paved the way so others could have the opportunity to pursue their dreams," said Hemingway. "To be selected by George Lucas and Rick to direct this film was more than my wildest dreams come true. It's been a blessing to work with them, along with the amazingly talented artists at Industrial Light & Magic. I've grown a lot on many levels from this experience. As director, I had the fortune to work with a highly skilled crew from the Czech Republic, U.K. and the U.S., along with a remarkably talented group of actors. The resonant beauty, strength and dedication of our heroes is reflected in the powerful ensemble cast."Red Tails stars Oscar® winner Cuba Gooding Jr. (Jerry Maguire), Oscar nominee Terrence Howard (Crash), Emmy® winner Bryan Cranston ("Breaking Bad"), Nate Parker (The Secret Life of Bees, The Great Debaters), David Oyelowo (The Last King of Scotland, Rise of the Planet of the Apes), Tristan Wilds ("90210"), Grammy® Award winner Cliff Smith aka Method Man ("The Wire"), Kevin Phillips (Pride), Rick Otto ("The Wire"), Lee Tergesen (Monster), Andre Royo ("Heroes"), Grammy-Award winner Ne-Yo (Stomp the Yard), Elijah Kelley (Hairspray), Marcus T. Paulk (Take the Lead), Leslie Odom Jr. ("Grey's Anatomy"), Michael B. Jordan ("Friday Night Lights," Chronicle) and Daniela Ruah ("NCIS")."I've wanted to do this film for a great many years," said George Lucas, executive producer of Red Tails. "So it is especially gratifying to see it all come together. It has been a real pleasure to work with Anthony and the extraordinary cast on a project that we all passionately believe in. The Tuskegee Airmen were such superb pilots that it was essential for us to create visual effects that would live up to their heroism and put audiences in the cockpit with them. They were only in their early 20s when they performed these amazing feats," Lucas added. "They became the best of the best--the top guns. It is an honor to bring to the screen a story inspired by their heroics."
A high-flying action epic inspired by the heroic exploits of the first all African-American aerial combat unit, Red Tails will launch on January 20, 2012, released by Twentieth Century Fox. Produced by Rick McCallum and Charles Floyd Johnson, the gripping WWII action movie is directed by Anthony Hemingway ("Treme," "The Wire," "Battlestar Galactica").
"I am humbled and honored to direct the story of the Tuskegee Airmen -- heroes who have paved the way so others could have the opportunity to pursue their dreams," said Hemingway. "To be selected by George Lucas and Rick to direct this film was more than my wildest dreams come true. It's been a blessing to work with them, along with the amazingly talented artists at Industrial Light & Magic. I've grown a lot on many levels from this experience. As director, I had the fortune to work with a highly skilled crew from the Czech Republic, U.K. and the U.S., along with a remarkably talented group of actors. The resonant beauty, strength and dedication of our heroes is reflected in the powerful ensemble cast."
Red Tails stars Oscar® winner Cuba Gooding Jr. (Jerry Maguire), Oscar nominee Terrence Howard (Crash), Emmy® winner Bryan Cranston ("Breaking Bad"), Nate Parker (The Secret Life of Bees, The Great Debaters), David Oyelowo (The Last King of Scotland, Rise of the Planet of the Apes), Tristan Wilds ("90210"), Grammy® Award winner Cliff Smith aka Method Man ("The Wire"), Kevin Phillips (Pride), Rick Otto ("The Wire"), Lee Tergesen (Monster), Andre Royo ("Heroes"), Grammy-Award winner Ne-Yo (Stomp the Yard), Elijah Kelley (Hairspray), Marcus T. Paulk (Take the Lead), Leslie Odom Jr. ("Grey's Anatomy"), Michael B. Jordan ("Friday Night Lights," Chronicle) and Daniela Ruah ("NCIS").
"I've wanted to do this film for a great many years," said George Lucas, executive producer of Red Tails. "So it is especially gratifying to see it all come together. It has been a real pleasure to work with Anthony and the extraordinary cast on a project that we all passionately believe in. The Tuskegee Airmen were such superb pilots that it was essential for us to create visual effects that would live up to their heroism and put audiences in the cockpit with them. They were only in their early 20s when they performed these amazing feats," Lucas added. "They became the best of the best--the top guns. It is an honor to bring to the screen a story inspired by their heroics."
http://starwars.com/themovies/redtails/redtails_sm.jpg
http://starwars.com/themovies/redtails/redtails2_sm.jpg
― Dave Zuul (Phil D.), Friday, 29 July 2011 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
i remember samuel jackson being attached as a director (and actor?) a few years ago so i think lucas gave up on wanting to direct a while ago. (or maybe just decided that a black person should direct it?)
― max, Friday, 29 July 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
"Hi, Rick, it's George. Do I know any black people besides Billy Dee and Sam Jackson? I don't? Can you find me some, please?"
― Dave Zuul (Phil D.), Friday, 29 July 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
+ dude who played Jar Jar
― Number None, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
Lucas may or may not be aware that a non-CGI person played Jar Jar.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ Meth being in this
unrelated:
apparently all requests for philanthropy/charity donations from ILM have to be addressed specifically to George Lucas lol. I'm sure he personally reads every single one.
― No Broehner (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
What's wrong with your FAAAAACE is giving me extreme LOLs today for some reason.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
george lucas is straight trolling now: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51019
― Clay, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
I love when this thread gets revived. "What has he done now?" i chuckle to myself
― Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway i guess George is going for a "it's like poetry, it rhymes" moment here
― Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
I like the idea of calling James Earl Jones back just to overdub a "noooo!"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
A+
― little mushroom person (abanana), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
nah when he did the one at the end of the third prequel george said 'ey james how about you do another couple dozen of those, i'll pepper them across the old films over the next thirty years.'
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
Hah omfg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaSxSuB2vY&feature=player_embedded#at=36
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
It takes a certain kind of fuck-you chutzpah to take one of the THE most hated bits of the prequels and deliberately infect the originals with it
― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
From the same source. I must have spent a full 5 minutes lol-ing at this last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0EUjobdavw
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 1 September 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, this is well past "improving my vision of the universe" and into "fuck you loyal fans" territory.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
But there seems to be a lot of chatter that those are both fake.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
Star Wars is ruined forever
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, it is, and thats not hyperbole. Its ruined because it is completely impossible to purchase the original, theatrically released versions in a watchable format.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
captain, my who-gives-a-shit readouts are through the roof!!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
So glad you've taken time to post then.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:56 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
no, it isn't. i think it's stupid, but if anything it just confirms that lucas thinks of star wars and everything in it as a big old model trainset in his basement. his to tinker with as he pleases. and just like old men and their trainsets, the more he tinkers, the more myopic he gets, and the less interesting it all is to everyone else.
to extend the old man with new toy thing a bit more: he seems giddy about the fact that it's now so EASY to reach into film and change things. when he was a student, he had to actually cut film and move it around to make edits. i think that he's still, even now, just ~blown away~ that film isn't even film anymore, and can be mutable up until (or even past) the release date. his mistake is in thinking that that is necessarily a good idea.
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
Its ruined because it is completely impossible to purchase the original, theatrically released versions in a watchable format.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, September 1, 2011 9:05 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is otm, though.
i'm secretly grateful that all these new bullshitty movies drained my enthusiasm for SW because now i can go "well it is a bit silly," but i would at least like to be able to see the actual original things that got me so pumped in the first place.
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
That clip of of the "krayt dragon call" is the funniest fucking thing I think I will see all day today
― beemer douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
Thats true, and a pretty good analogy. I just don't understand why he just can't leave the older versions available for us to purchase. Its not like it would cause him to make less money or something.
Basically, I just look at something like Ridley Scott's Blu-Ray set for Blade Runner with 5(!) different versions of the film. Its hard not to look at this as a "fuck you", when he knows what people are clamoring for but doesn't give a shit about releasing it.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure when you're 85 the original edits will be released via "Help me, Obi-Wan" hologram.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
but i would at least like to be able to see the actual original things that got me so pumped in the first place.
I mean, this is key. I'd love to show my kid the originals some day.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
LIFE SIZED SATANIC DOLL USED AS MASTURBATION TOY FOR AMERICA'S YOUTH
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
one day the unfuckedup oroginal will be released - I proimise
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
I think we still have the originals on VHS
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
omg Mark is that link for real
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
The Darth Vader "Nooooo!" thing is just so clunky and stupid and idiotic. I really don't see why he doesn't just dig out all the cut scenes from the first film and clean them up and put them back in. Stuff like Luke hanging around with his friends is actually kinda dull and detracting from the pacing of the original movies, but not nearly as distracting as some of the new stuff he's put in. Anyone want to chime in on the R2D2 rock? I haven't seen that yet, but yeah, sounds like a good way to waste millions of dollars. Putting a digital rock in somewhere.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, this is where i smell whiffs of anti-fandom w/lucas, i guess. a criterion-style remastering of the originals, in high-def, w/o whizz-bang special effects, would totally sell. so he either doesn't care about making money (i really think he doesn't at this point, why would you), doesn't want the originals to be seen anymore now that he's made changes (likely), or actively holds in contempt fans that think the originals are better ("they don't get it").
likely all three
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
well also Lucas is making the mistake of thinking people love his artistic/creative vision when what people actually loved was how he got around/adjusted to/circumvented technical limitations that got in the way of his artistic vision, something that becomes more and more apparent as he goes back to all of these movies and retinkers them into what he REALLY wanted all along
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
wait i thought you could buy the og 3 on dvd? or is that not 'a watchable format' for you nerds?
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
haha, true! xp
also, thing is, to hear my parents tell it, it wasn't the actual nuts and bolts of his creative vision that was appealing, it was that it got into a movie at all, ever.
SW was the first time joe moviegoer got a taste of competently done space opera. i mean, it's kinda like ppl (non-nerds) going nuts for the LOTR movies. like whoah i've never read the books but this shit is EPIC and COOL and its like dude this is nothing new, it just happens to be in a movie now
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
a hoy hoy - you can buy versions of the OG trilogy on DVD that have the original versions on a bonus disc, but even a 5 year-old would tell you they are unwatchable.
From an Amazon review:The picture & sound are intentionally presented in mediocre quality. These DVD's are transferred from the exact same videotape used to create the laserdisc release in 1993. That means a non-anamorphic, muddy, letterboxed picture that will have to be zoomed in to fill widescreen TVs or computer monitors. Lucasfilm refuses to fulfill the basic minimum standards of a current DVD release and make a new transfer. The quality of this DVD presentation will not live up to that of such timeless classics as Caddyshack II & Ishtar.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
We have a 52" screen at home and they took up maybe a quarter of our screen. If I zoomed in, it was blurry to the point of making me nauseous trying to watch.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
"Any child that has seen this movie is finding that their natural attraction to members of the opposite sex is being replaced with an attraction to a 7ft devil with elephant feet, a 25 inch tongue, polka dot skin, a fish snout, and two phallic eyes that jut out like hard erotic pokers. For the Love of God! If you've got this devil in your house, remove it as soon as possible! "
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
"Jillian! We have a surprise for you in upstairs in your bedroom!"
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3367427674_f7201f3864_b.jpg
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
lolling at walking in on some kid sitting on Jar Jar's face. AMERICA WAKE UP!
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
ya rly I feel like we got off track by not delving deeper into that amazing amazing page
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
im astonished that you werent clued in on landover baptist already djp. it's been around forever! it's a parody site btw
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
kil everything
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
I figured it had to be but omg if it was real the world would have seemed a brighter, more amazing place
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
Take that parody aside, I still can't believe they sold seven-foot Jar Jars to children.
Just picturing the suspense at the birthday party when they wheeled that thing in covered in wrapping paper and bows.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
Then imagining the children screaming in terror.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
It's almost as weird as this guy.
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Embarrassed-dog-yearns-for-a-PETA-rescue1.jpg
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
That poor dog!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
a bulldog in bama gear http://i.imgur.com/aKxbn.gif
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
actually idk what breed that is
Lucas: "Hey James, do you think we should add some overdubs into the climactic scene of 'Jedi'?"
JEJ: "No."
Lucas: *clicks recorder* "Hey, that's great! Print that!"
JEJ: "NOOOO"
― corey, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.sandcrawler.com/SWB/Images/StarWars/Walkers/walkers-jarjar-pair.jpg
a few years back i bought one of these^^^ from sainsburys -- the white one bcz yes i'm a racist
eventually the tongue deliquesced into small blobs of pink mucus
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
"George, patch in the one from Revenge of the Shit; I'm 80 fucking years old."
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
I once interviewed one of the Lucasfilm dudes, and you wouldn't imagine the omerta in effect. He just would not confirm or deny that the original negatives are either gone or unrepairable.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
sticky... tongue toy
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
at this point i think part of it might be that putting out the originals would feel to him like a capitulation, especially since there is literally no one on the planet who prefers any of the modified versions and nobody would ever buy any of them again except by accident.
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
The remastered Blu-Ray sticky tongue toy will be a delight.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
1. i've got a 26" screen so this sounds perfect for me
2. but frankly, if i want my kids to experience the thrill of star wars, sitting on a couch watching TV is not going to fulfill the brief
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah those versions are fine on my completely shitty tv i gave a departing housemate $20 for, but i think that's about the limit.
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
What, you going to fly them around in the actual Millenium Falcon?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
part of me is glad that i might be able to avoid the crushing disappointment ill feel when my kids dont give a shit about star wars
― max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't realize until i bought them how long it had been since i'd actually seen the real movies, though; when luke drove into mos eisley and no one stepped in poop or fell off a dinosaur i was overcome with peace.
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
These films were never that good. You were six.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
omg
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
And you were forty-eight, its okay.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
empire's neck-and-neck with khan for Best Space Movie, the others are fine.
some parts less fine than others.
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
are you speaking of negative space?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
I prefer the newly tinkered ending of ROTJ with Hayden and his long hair and awful smirk: it injects the only bit of pathos into a movie that even in 1983 looked like Lucas had been tinkering with rejected ideas for years.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Thank God I was a teenager who preferred Annie Hall
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
OTM!
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
(this is why the prequels didn't bother me, aside from Jar-Jar)
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
for christ's sake everyone knows that
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
Morbs, you sound like the guy spitting opinions on Alvy's neck.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
i preferred annie hall too; what teenager wouldn't
I mean, really – sanctimony in a Star Wars thread? gtfo
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
the thing about this argument is that all movies are shaded by the person you were when you watched them, your mood, your intelligence, etc. so being a teenager who preferred Annie Hall is not really any better than being a six-year-old (or 36-year-old) who likes star wars
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
just the attitude of "a teenager who prefers Annie Hall" is going to shade them toward preferring Annie Hall because teenagers are all about being intellectually superior
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
Easily rebuffed by the fact that the older you are, the better you are.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
"I didn't read comics; thank god I was a teenager that preferred The Magic Mountain."
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://babycostumeoutlet.info/wp-content/uploads/costume%20baby%20yoda%20halloween%20costume_2.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
look, all the add-ons and tinkerings are just.... not really that material. they are the same movies. and that original landspeeder looked like shit, even in the 70s
i've said it before, but by my lights the only real downside to the additional CGI is that CGI tech is always moving on, always improving, so 20 years from now, much of the CGI will look even lamer and faker than it does now. practical effects don't have this problem. so lucas - or his heirs, or whatever - will need to go back and keep touching that shit up ever few years to keep pace. until finally somebody just creates a really good full jabba suit in real life and rotoscopes that in over the CGI.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
the magic mountain kinda is a comic
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
yet here you are, baiting people about Star Wars.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
I was a 4-year-old who loved "Star Wars" at the drive-in btw
I am dying that AICN devoted most of that article to a wholly innocuous change to a mostly terrible (but super fun to watch) movie and threw in the blatantly ludicrous LMAO forever change at the end as an "oh btw they did this too", which had the unfortunate side effect of making the original "NO" complaint seem even more trivial
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
I hope George Luca's son continues destroying them untli one day they are like Mork from Ork
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
You are arguing with things I never said, n/a. Never change.
I liked the original trilogy, but at a cerain point it kicks in that they ain't Max Ophuls.btw best post-Jedi Star Wars moment is the bar mitzvah in Deconstructing Harry.
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
I liked the original trilogy, but at a cerain point it kicks in that they ain't Max Ophuls
You are arguing with things no one has said, Morbz. Never change.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
has anyone done a serious study of the neck issue? i saw a clip from a circa 1995 doc the other day and it was bad but nowhere near today's "south american frog inflating its neck sack" look.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
The "NOOOOO!" moment in ROTS was a pretty shark-jump moment for me, but i think in the theater by that time I was like "Okay, we're in straight-up b-movie monster territory now" and it was silly and cheesy but here's a guy in a black cape named Darth Vader so really it was cheesy all along. Christopher Lee in the mix too, here we go Hammer.
Part of me really wishes they stuck to the original Empire script depiction of Darth Vader living in an evil-looking castle, feeding gargoyles by a lava lake or something.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
even the stupids didn't squander christopher lee as unforgivably as lucas did
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
Don't forget dinosaur but CGI'd in front of Sir Alec.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
dinosaur butt
http://spectrumculture.com/assets/ewokguilty.png
^^^still unfucked with
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
here's a guy in a black cape named Darth Vader so really it was cheesy all along.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
how can the "NOOOOOOO!" be a shark-jump in a trilogy that has already given us:
Jar-Jar Binksyoung Anakin, builder of C-3P0older Anakin, wooden seducer of his former babysitterJango Fett
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
mark i keep seeing movement in that ewok pic, but i know that PNGs can't move
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, I thought the "she died because she was sad" bit was WAAAAAAAY more ludicrous than Vader's "NOOOOOOO!"
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
she was REALLY sad though
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
it was sad, she was sad
sad that her name wasn't "jango"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
Films were never that good -- would agree except for empire which still holds up (just watch the first 10 minutes to confirm)teen who prefers Annie Hall -- is right! Except for empire which has aged much better. Allen inserting McLuhan as a cameo might have been fresh at the time but now that Lucas can digitally insert Naomi Klein into Cantina scene on a whim this seems old hat. Also empire has better jokes and comedic timing.Annie hall just has ewoks
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
she withered away from melancholy
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
I like to think that she was really broken up about not getting to wear the ludicrous wigs and makeup and her secret husband turning into a child murdering dickbag was just the final straw
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
By the post-count ye shall know what is valued, Sotosyn
ATTACK OF THE CLONES vs LETTER FROM AN UNKNOWN WOMAN
(by "that good," I mean worthy of more attention than Robert Aldrich's Ulzana's Raid)
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
True, true. Yeah, but Jar-Jar, young Anakin, all that is pretty peripheral. Darth Vader is like the first iconic figure that appears in Star Wars. This isn't baby Anakin accidentally blowing up the Death Donut or a clone of Boba Fett's father, this is the actual real Darth Vader from the original film. The guy that could choke somebody to death from across the room, he was so badass. And suddenly he's basically reliving a moment from Lethal Weapon or something.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
Allen inserting McLuhan as a cameo might have been fresh at the time but now that Lucas can digitally insert Naomi Klein into Cantina scene on a whim this seems old hat.
He should digitally insert Woody Allen at the Mos Eisley bar complaining to Morbz and a pack of sad Ophuls fans.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://eightiesmovies.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/zelig.jpghttp://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/7148/232980-jar_jar_binks_large.jpeg
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
why am i beginning to think morbs has a "leia in metal bikini" costume hidden in his closet.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
If Jar-Jar and young Anakin had been peripheral to "The Phantom Menace", it would have been a wholly different, infinitely better movie!
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
xp: maybe strike out "costume"?
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
guys, let's just chill with some golden moments from the sad life of padme jango
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPXH11PRQLc
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
and sings the triumphant ewok song at the moment of climax
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
it's realy sad she was sad
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQyEs0gk8Hw
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
oh damn Tracer did that already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx1uBXa-234
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
morbs otm
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-kBE2fqZkA
This is a sad song about the life and death of Padme Amidala by the band Danny Winn and the Earthlings. All pictures used were found online through searches. Written, Produced, and recorded by Danny Winn, the song also features members of the New Mexico symphony Orchestra.
includes the lyrics "it was the saddest thing i've ever seen in my life"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
danny winn otm
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.myspace.com/dannywinnandtheearthlings
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Danny Winn and the Earthlings was an original ska band based out of Albuquerque, NM. A fixture of the local scene and an enduring crowd favorite, the band was known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks. Originally concieved as a solo creative outlet by Danny Winn, DW&E had became a unique amalgamate loaded with personality from each of the six members.Check out my new Ska video Commercial for the Louisiana Hot Sauce Contest!
Check out my new Ska video Commercial for the Louisiana Hot Sauce Contest!
hey danny winn you are history's greatest monster
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Check out my unique amalgamate of Louisiana Hot Sauce!
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mFBgVUtb-s
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
man there must be zero ass kickings & easy pussy in albuquerque
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Danny-Winn-and-the-Earthlings-Ska-Band/152791498103141?sk=info
Influences Reel Big Fish, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Goldfinger
Well, he's honest.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
there it's pronounced "puss-say," and it's a perfect amalgamate of herbs and spices!
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Skanking Sad
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
i live in a city that invented the zombie pub crawl and i can't imagine a star wars ska band getting booked outside of a family reunion in a state park
oh jesus they have a fiddle too
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Not one press interview as far as I can tell. Just videos where he shares his art.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
it's realy sad, they had a fiddle
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Ska!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONiRotcPS0E
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.contactmusic.com/videoimages/sbmg/ricky-martin-livin-la-vida-loca-version-en-espanol.jpg
she's into sci-fi moviesAT-ATTs and Jar-Jar Binks
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
i can never decide whether to admire nth-wave ska bands fot their never say die spirit or wish we still fed people to lions.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
My first video project ever, this is a never before released short documentary featuring the Ska band Danny Winn and the Earthlings. It was originally a promotional DVD that was sent to such places as The Tonight Show, The Conan O'Brien Show, Saturday Night Live, and many more to potentially further the bands progress. This video never meant to be viewd by fans or others and because it was meant to be a Promotional video for the band, it is a bit bragadocious and focuses mostly on the bands accomplishments and wide range appeal.
http://www.tributebandreviews.co.uk/28/11/2008/ska-tribute-bands-ska-wars/
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost -- he used the word 'bragadocious,' ergo lions.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
As for Mark S's terrifying link just now:
Band Members:Lead Vocals – Bobba FattTrumpet + Backing Vocals – Horn TrooperTrombone + Backing Vocals – Horn Trooper (AKA Toby 1 Skanobi)Keyboard – Ska 2 D 2Bass Guitar – Luke Ska WalkerDrums + Backing Vocals – Drum Solo (AKA Princess Leon)Guitar – Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
thanks, Ned.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
loooooool bobba fatt
every ska band needs the comedy fat guy
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
from the doc -
"we're not in this just to make music for ourselves, we're in this to please other people and to entertain"
!! no one ever says this!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
That's a quote from George Lucas.
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
Meanwhile, joy!
https://www.facebook.com/skawarsuk
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
He inserted it into the Battle of Endor.
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
now i'm just picturing morbs skanking in his princess leia costume :'(
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
I just noticed why the 'NOOOO' thing is so funny to me. It reminds me of Xavier: Renegade Angel, who often witnesses something happen and then shouts "Nooo!" while the camera zooms into his eye for a flashback. Having Darth scream this before/while picking up the Emperor, it sort feels like Lucas really wants to zoom into Vader's eye and cut to a flashback montage of a bunch of prequel scenes so that us idiot audience can further connect the dots between his troubled past and the serious deep soul-searching he is undergoing at that moment.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
SNAKE! SNAAAAAAAAAKE!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
but no one ever says that metal gear solid is bad because of that
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://walyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bizarre-star-wars-costumes-jabba-the-hut-costume-1.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
i'd never noticed (tho i haven't seen these since i was a teenager, actually) (they were aight) quite how godzilla-suitish darth vader's movements are when he's picking the emperor up. not much of a rig to move in, i guess
― thomp, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
the real crime of badger badger was the version of that where some sub-echt george lucas added penises to the badgers, swinging like windmills
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
i was kinda hoping someone would have shopped zelig into the cantina by now
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
still reeling from "Bobba Fatt" btw
also reeling from Danny Winn holy shit
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
haha also THE THING, since the tall dude in the cantina band designed it
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
someone needs to write the definitive novel of the middle-aged ska musician
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
I think the thing throwing about that Danny Winn song Tracer initially linked is that on the pre-chorus I want to start singing "Behind Blue Eyes"
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
how do we know it's not already there HMMMM?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
oh jesus they have a fiddle too― goole, Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:26 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― goole, Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:26 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
like, how do we know george lucas didn't go back and photoshop in The Thing into the cantina scene, made to look exactly like the existing footage
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
frankly i think to be on the safe side we should just assume that he did
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
suddenly I want padame to die
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
you're in luck!
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
Its always a lucky day when an alien princess dies and is reborn as a tabloid flasher
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
she did who in the what now
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:40 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:41 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
wait you realize "badger badger badger" didn't originate in that game right
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
how sad is it that i had to stare at the drummer being named Drum Solo for like 30 seconds before angrily getting it
― Beemster roquebag (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
"badger badger badger" didn't originate in that game right
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, September 1, 2011 5:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
wait badger badger is in metal gear?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/Photos/InflatedFrog.jpeg
my name is george lucas, and i approve of this derail.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah i was not aware that the badger song featured in metal gear
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
some dude i was talking about how your boss says "snaaaaake!" when you die in metal gear solid. i.e. it's super-cheesy but nobody points and is like, omg how could they ruin this intense game
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
apparently it's an easter egg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8dAo8U1-vg&feature=related
xpost oh ok
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.robotlibre.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/watsonjabba-e1293198792844.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
it's ok if cheesy screams are part of the original canonical work ("game over, man, game over!"), but retconning cheesy screams is just gauche
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Jabba the slut
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
Roffle:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/george-lucas-offers-a-compelling-argument-against,61224/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
who CGI'd a ring of flesh around his neck
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
Arby's
― beemer, I mean BIMMER douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
thats no cgi man thats real steakfat
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Ah ha I was just coming here to post this. So crazy! xp
― Ópen W. (Ówen P.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
ALMOST as good as 2006 vs 2011 Obama
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
? I am unfamiliar with this Obama
― Ópen W. (Ówen P.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
whatever obama's faults, neckfat isn't one of them!
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
whats with no CGI of Obama's grey hairs into black again
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
Revise all instances of "Yes we can" in 2008 victory speech to "Yessssssssssss"
― Ópen W. (Ówen P.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
or "maybe we can't !"
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
haha the old Lucas quotes remind me of that straight-to-DVD movie where ray liotta plays a fire marshal
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not playing devil's advocate here, but I will tip my hat to Lucas's cynical genius is this way: the neighborhood kids around here were all introduced to the "Star Wars" flicks via the (more) childish prequels, and parents generally didn't let them watch the original trilogy until they were older. At which point the damage was done, because those same neighborhood kids around here all play Anakin when they play Star Wars, or dress as Anakin for Halloween. Or Darth Not Vader or whomever. I don't think I've ever heard them utter the name "Han Solo," let alone "Luke." It's actually kind of weird, from my vantage.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
I hate those kids
― Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
anakin/vader is like the only "interesting" character lucas ever created
(obviously he isn't actually even slightly interesting, but he does actually go on a "moral journey")
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
do kids these days also play "captain kirk" by blasting beastie boys on their nokia phones?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
Han Solo is the only good thing about star wars
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
hence his name
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
― mark s, Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:04 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
UNTRUE, the ewoks blink now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRejStaN3q4
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
oh yes they do
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
they made a blink but ignored the fact that its so obvioulsy a littel person in a bear outfit
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
Perhaps we should think of other movies where a "Noooooo!" overdubbed in would make a character's following actions easier to understand.
Maybe Dave can scream "Nooooo!" through the entire dissembling-HAL9000 scene.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
Tim Allen screams NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in every episode of Home Inprovement
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
A lot of Nicolas Cage movies would be improved.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
Like World Trade Center.
In Jaws3D they should really make the shark go NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO while he crashes through the glass.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
wait, why would dave scream noooo. the anguish of voiding hal's warranty?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
the anguish of boredom
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
I think moveis in general woul dbe better if people were always screaming "flame on!!!!!!!!!"
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
I just found out about this. Fuck George Lucas. Do Not Want.
― three word displayname (snoball), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah backstroke of the west is his weirdest edit yet
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
Jaws screaming no while crashing through the glass would sound like the world's biggest burbling bong hit.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
'I think moveis in general woul dbe better if people were always screaming "flame on!!!!!!!!!"'
i caught the end of a very very strange kevin spacy movie where he has johnny storm powers, but it was kind of a blues brothers drama/comedy. I can't imagine the elevator pitch for that movie.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
was it pride and prejudice capsule hamster?
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
mouth-harp fire fairy
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
i mistake -- it wasn't kevin spacey, it was this guy:http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2004_Birth/Thumb/004BRT_Arliss_Howard_002.jpg
"Wilder Napalm is a 1993 romantic comedy film about a pair of pyrokinetic brothers and their rivalry for the same woman. The film was directed by Glenn Gordon Caron, and stars Dennis Quaid, Arliss Howard, and Debra Winger"
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
the thing that makes the darth "noooo" so crazy is that there was nothing stopping Lucas from putting it in any of the previous 50 releases of the movie. Why did he realize that was needed in 2011?
99% of the other stuff is just an old weirdo playing with new effects toys.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't there a thing about geo showing his stuff to small kids and asking for their ideas
― conrad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
The inside of Lucas's head must be so weird (not that the outside isn't weird)
― Number None, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
small kids would request actually interesting insertions, like a FIRE ENGINE and a TIGER
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
George's son sat in on the screenings of dailies for the first prequel and would make suggestions
I have this on authority from the ILM editor who was running the projection booth
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
GL's son must be like 45!
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
which figures, given this thread and the quality of the suggestions
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
he has a son Jett, born in 1993 a contraction of jango fett
― conrad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
I made up the last bit I think
― conrad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
The inside of Lucas's head must be so weird
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/253932597_a23322970f.jpg
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
right so he's like 17:
a: all his sex and rap-related suggestions were nixed b: any further suggestions he made were REALLY SULLEN AND SARCASTIC
― mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I bet that's where the nooooooo came from but he was six or less and racist for the phantom menace hence jar-jar
― conrad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVn4DCB1wQ
― little mushroom person (abanana), Friday, 2 September 2011 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
"jett" is the name of the hero in l ron hubbard's "battlefield earth" series
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 September 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
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by the way i can not OTM this enough
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 September 2011 09:01 (twelve years ago) link
underrated post
― rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Friday, 2 September 2011 11:55 (twelve years ago) link
george lucas in '88
The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created.
― diamonddave85, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
oops meant to quote this one:
People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-g3BFJWhqI&feature=related
j/k
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 September 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkPKZhXth7M
― anorange (abanana), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
2 crimes in 1 day!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/sep/15/star-wars-blu-ray-lucasfilm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/sep/15/carrie-fisher-princess-leia-lucas
― piscesx, Friday, 16 September 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39lCjSAdztE&feature=fvsr
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
So my wife surprised me and bought the Blu-Ray set for us. We ended up watching (at her request), the first four movies (in chronological order) in bits and pieces over the last four days. They look great, even if the content is still laughable in the prequels. Still, I was reminded of the sequences that I do love - the pod race in Ep 1, some of the epic space battes in 3, etc.
The deleted scenes are laughable though. Not much beyond rough storyboarding, kinda cool I guess if you are into the development of the CGI stuff, seeing very early cuts of things.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
One thing I'm still not sure about: did they really change obi-wan's "dragon call" in the tuscan raiders scene? I couldn't tell if that was legit lucas mentalism or clever internet fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL6FkzFyfeE
― rustic italian flatbread, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
No, they didn't change that. I thought that had been revealed as a hoax last week. Anyway, from what I saw of Ep 4 yesterday, they didn't change anything beyond what had already been changed with the last DVD issue.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
Watched Eps. 1 & 2 over the weekend. They do look and sound fantastic, that's for damned sure. One addition I noticed in Ep. 2: When Anakin is having his nightmare about his mother, they dubbed in some of her screams, so it looks less like he's having a wet dream.
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Monday, 19 September 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
... or is he having the world's most disturbing wet dream
― sick yr finger up his butt (DJP), Monday, 19 September 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
Don't.
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Monday, 19 September 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't notice that nightmare thing! To be fair, I should mention that I was watching all of these in about 20 minutes bursts while watching my newborn son so I should be excused if I missed some details.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
I think these work best as movies to watch while you cook dinner/do laundry/feed baby etc
― corey, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
otm, particularly if you time your distractions to conincide with all of the Naboo scenes in Ep 2
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
"You're so...
...beautiful."
― corey, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
One thing I did notice when watching Episode IV yesterday, is how stilted and awful the CGI stuff added to the Mos Eisley scene looks in comparison to the CGI stuff in the prequels. There is one shot in particular, with a very jerky and stilted Threepio, that reveals the limitations, particularly in crisp Blu-Ray on a big screen.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
I thought that had been revealed as a hoax last week
Really? So the dragon call is the original? Cos that new clip sounds like someone getting goosed and then growling into a delay pedal. But in a really crappy way.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 September 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rCEJYiaNtk
― am0n, Monday, 19 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
Watched some of the new deleted scenes on youtube today. This is the coolest thing ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPpWlTs48Bg
I'd seen a camera job of part of this but, wow, damn. I think that new shot of Darth Vader walking down a corridor is almost as cool as Luke Skywalker putting together his lightsaber and that last shot of the Millennium Falcon parked in the desert. This scene is better than 90% of the finished movie.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 September 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
Hadn't watched the original trilogy deleted scenes yet, that one alone blows away every single one for the prequels (unsurprisingly).
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
I want more Hoth footage.
― Blind Diode Jefferson (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
They should have dubbed Hayden's voice in for Vader's. That would have been awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
good deleted stuff. is there much more on the dvd box?
― piscesx, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
if anyone has the time to engage in my frivolity: what is the main menu like?
i remember being particularly agitated at my 2004 cuts for the "BRUM BRUUUUUUUUUM BRUM" that started off each and every time you put it in the disk. god dammit, save that for when it actually happens! b/c when it does, it's kinda underwhelming/annoying
it's like when dvd's first started coming out and KEY SCENES were just used as ladeedadeedadee infinite loop gif images in the background, while i'm trying to sync my remote w/ the dvd player
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
There is probably eight or nine total deleted scenes for the prequels, but they are all pretty much worthless - low quality storyboard type with basic 3D stand-in renderings for any efx, etc. And they don't add anything at all plotwise. The only even close to interesting one is the extended lightsaber battle between Darth Maul and Qui-Gon at the ship on Tatooine, but again, pretty low quality. Haven't delved into the extras on the original trilogy yet.
The DVD menus are decent, but tbh nothing special considering how well done a lot of Blu-Ray menu screens have been lately. The music isn't as jarring or whatever, good background. Functional, but not really as impressive as I'd hoped.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe any of you are actually buying this shit
― I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
mind you i don't typically ask about movie menus,
but sometimes when you're presenting a movie to your friends that you've seen before and they haven't do i suddenly become conscious of them and utterly disappointed in how tacky/boring they happen to be. as an example, i've always loved everything the criterion collection art dept. does w/ the graphic design element of their movies, but a black screen with the movie title and an elongated underline can only be seen 17 times before i start to notice
/rant
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
a boycott against george lucas is useless. i'm only making this statistic up, but i'm certain purchases made for 14yr old sons/as presents to children & filmic illiterates far outnumbers the admittedly large base of old fans whom've noticed the changes, but are buying this shit anyways b/c they love star wars that much
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
i mean there must be 890732897 petitions in existence *right now* demanding that george lucas release the originals, unedited
NOPE
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
Well, like I said, my wife surprised me with this, knowing that I loved the originals and assuming I would want them on Blu-Ray.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
Well, you did say something about a baby, so I guess you can't disappear in the night never to be seen again at this point.
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
Lol, no, and her heart was in the right place. I mean, its pointless to hold out for the originals at this point, so I'll take gorgeous looking crappy movies and re-works over nothing.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
Gotta say that seeing the remastered deleted scenes and all the behind the scenes stuff, it looks pretty tantalizing. I bought the '95 original VHS box so I passed up on the Special Edition that soon followed. The lameness of the prequels turned me off to getting the DVDs. But seeing some of the bonus footage on this set, I'm far more curious than I thought I would be.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
I now own the original trilogy on VHS, not sure the dates but I definitely got them when I was still in high school so it was pre-1994, the Special Edition VHS, the Special Edition DVDs, the prequel DVDs as they came out individually, the original trilogy 2004 DVDs, and now the Blu-Ray Complete Saga thing. I'm that guy, apparently. But, in my defense, only the Special Edition DVD set was what I paid for myself, the rest have been given as gifts.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
good god
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
GL probably could have kept making Star Wars movies or TV shows or whatever but i think his divorce was so traumatic and tied up with SW that by the end he wanted nothing to do with it for a while. Which is a shame, cos he probably could have a dozen Star Wars movies, had he also ignored tinkering with the original trilogy. The CGI work developed alongside the films, there would be no reason for Special Editions. There would just be more movies.
I kinda wish he would make more movies, tbh. The prequels were horrible films but great entertaining b-movie stuff.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
10bucks says lucas will get his own 8 1/2 come 2033, directed by martin scorses's brain-in-a-jar and it'll revolve around him being the world's most celebrated mastermind behind the biggest cultural phenomenon yet, and his struggle to cope with it in the consecutive years after. it'll be surreal-ish and involve george lucas's life being re-edited with crappy cgi, a la Run Lola Run
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
the last scene will be a portraiture of george lucas against a black background, soundtracked by trent reznor, as a mouse cursor edits out his turkey wattle
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
So you're saying the last scene will last about 35 minutes?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/mVOX6.jpg
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
yes, 35 minutes sounds about correct, but his face will continued to be edited until entire portions of his body are removed and george lucas eventually becomes the abyss, black and without feeling for about 10 minutes (which serves as allegory for time he spent editing his script)
his breathing through a oxygen mask will soundtrack the credits
i am a creative genius
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
and then the deleted scenes will consist of 66 minutes of scrapped jarjar binks skits
― Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
God, I just arrived at this thread from the wikipedia article for LingChi. xp
― smelly's wife (rustic italian flatbread), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Star Wars is the bestselling catalog Blu-ray Disc of all time, including 515,000 units sold in North America in its first week alone. This worldwide consumer spend included $38 million in North America – unprecedented for a 9-disc Blu-ray collection at a premium pricehttp://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/
http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
I watched ESB last week and it was a TREAT. Looks absolutely gorgeous. But IMO the color saturation is a bit much, and the music should be louder throughout the film. I felt like the voices and effects were too loud, and the music was just slightly underwhelming, particularly in the asteroid belt scene where the TIE fighters are getting smashed. I remember seeing the VHS as a kid and the music at that part was way more in-your-face.
I don't think I've sat through it since before the prequels, because when Darth has a chat w the new Emperor it totally caught me off guard. Instantly I thought back to the prequel trilogy. Here I don't really think the continuity works, cos the Emperor says something akin to "Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker", as if Darth Vader doesn't identify with that person. But when he was suited up at the end of Ep III, the first thing he asks is about Padme. I wish i could remember what the original Emperor speech was (with the way scarier looking OG hologram) but I think I'm going to see out the new HD Laserdisc rips of the original trilogy that are floating around...
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
I guess you could argue he doesn't say anything about Luke to the Emperor cos he's already started plotting against him.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the empire knowing the anakin connection was already established in the first movie when they bbqed owen and beru?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
They did that because they didn't/couldn't tell where the droids were! I don't think they ever established that Vader knew the specific farm where the droids were.
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
luke blows up the death star and becomes a famous rebel commander.
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
Well, in that movie the empire were after the droids. The stormtroopers specifically tracked them down after slaughtering the jawas who had sold them to uncle owen. I don't know if anyone had made a connection. I guess Vader could have sensed Luke down there from up on Leia's ship. Its not supported by the film though.
xxp
― My hetfield very root with me what can I lou? (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Friday, September 23, 2011 1:17 PM (0 seconds ago)
^^ this
Was it in ESB when the Emperor says something about "the son of skywalker" or is that purely in ROTJ?
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
he says that in the original esb, i think, even when he's played by rick baker's wife wearing monster makeup
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:30 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark
he directed the action portions of the upcoming Red Tails, apparently. though i can't even imagine why you'd come away from the prequels craving more punishment
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Darth developed Post-traumatic stress, and blanked out the knowledge of his past life...didn't resurface until Luke surfaced...that'd be my retcon.
― jel --, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
hiding a kid with his closest blood relatives is kind of a gimme to the empire, though. darth was prolly all watevs, long as i don't have to pay support until the death star thing.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Also "The Emperor has forseen this" about Darth & Luke taking him out. Vader was telling his kid the truth, presumably, cos he also tells him that he's his father, and that's the truth. Maybe Vader finds out during Ep IV and is pissed off at Obi-Wan for hiding Luke and Leia from him, so that's why he kills him.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, probably not, otherwise he wouldn't be out there trying to shoot Luke down in the Death Star trench.
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
Vader doesn't even really know about Luke until after Ep 4 happens!
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
So the death star blows up. Vader has to talk to the Emperor, says "The force was strong in the dude that blew up our Death Star, my master". Emperor is like, "Btw, dude is your kid."
I'm guessing that's where another "Nooooooooooo!" would go.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
there's a (now probably non-canon) comic where the emperor is cackling that he knows that vader is really anakin, like vader's been keeping it a secret from him, too.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
What happened to those 3-D ified Star Wars editions? Because it is very important that they come out, to save 3-D.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
3D Phantom Menace is out February 2012
― Number None, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man I can't wait to feel like I'm being violated by Jar Jar's tongue.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
there will presumably be inserted bits with lightsabers poking right out of the screen at you and that
― conrad, Friday, 23 September 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
The real question is: what were the rebels doing flying around Tatooine and how did the Empire find them there? Isn't it supposed to be way out in the middle of nowhere? Seems like a rather big coincidence.
― Moodles, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
Tatooine is supposed to be this distant, inconsequential place, well past the scope of the Republic/Empire, yet the characters end up there in nearly every film.
― Moodles, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ That. Because if you look at a map like this one, you wonder what the hell kind of route would have taken them past Tattooine en route to Alderaan.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
C'mon guys
― Number None, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
Its fun to think of this stuff, if kind of pointless. I don't see how this is any worse than those threads that spin into endless meta debate about which universes fictional characters reside in and how they cross over with real like contemporaries.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
Because if you look at a map like this one
why would i be doing a thing like that now
― ledge, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
i'm glad i don't know what you're referring to there xpost
― Number None, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
You don't have to. I was just contributing to Moodles' musings. I forgot that ILX is most definitely not the place to geek out over nerdy details.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
You better look at the map. Many Bothans died to bring you that information.
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
At the beginning of ep IV, does Darth Vader recall that he grew up on Tatooine?
― Moodles, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
omg my 10 year old self's heart exploded with joy looking at that map
― corey, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
if you look at a map like this one, you wonder what the hell kind of route would have taken them past Tattooine en route to Alderaan.
You mean like the fact they were there was a diplomatic mission for Leia to get a message to General Obi-wan?
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
The "diplomatic misson" was cover, but you are right, they weren't actually travelling to Alderaan (also part of cover story).
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
Basically it comes down to:
1. Disturbance in force tracked to young force-sensitive kid on Tatooine2. Kid revisits planet attempting to see dying/dead mother, meets stepfamily3. Jedi dumps kid with said extended family on said planet after his father self-destructs, then hides in cave there.4. In escaping the planet, jedi finds outlaw hotshot pilot/smuggler who is on the planet after working for local crime lord5. Said crime lord pays a bounty hunter to track down and capture said smuggler, causing his friends to come get him (and therefore providing jedi kid to visit his mentor's old home
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
The only really out there part is Han getting dragged back to this backwater, which was kind of odd for him to have been at to begin with
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Particularly odd since he was trying to *avoid* Jabba's bounty hunters.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, but you forgot deleted (and then readded minus the dude with a shabby Irish accent) scene where he was negotiating with Jabba in Ep 4.
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
You know, the one where he walks all the way around Jabba and Lucas thought it would be a great move to have him step on Jabba's tail when they replaced him with a computer generated version so they could reused the footage
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Friday, 23 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
(note that I was obsessed with Star Wars as a youth up through the original special editions but know virtually nothing about ep 1-3)
OMG yes, I forgot that was the context for that.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
"threads that spin into endless meta debate about which universes fictional characters reside in and how they cross over with real like contemporaries"
ET is a senator in Star Wars; when ET visits Earth, he plays with Star Wars toys. Therefore, ET proves we are in the Star Wars universe.Death Star was an inside job.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
Sound reasoning, except E.T. was clearly the senator's aide in the Galactic Senate, not the senator himself.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
I always took Princess Leia's message to Obi-wan as a desperate hail Mary attempt due to the proximity of Tatooine rather than as the original point of her mission. I thought she was trying to get the plans back to the rebel base so they could analyze and plan out their attack.
― Moodles, Friday, 23 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
Nunez, you just blew my mind.
Its fun to think of this stuff, if kind of pointless. I don't see how this is any worse than those threads that spin into endless meta debate about which universes fictional characters reside in and how they cross over with real like contemporaries. political gossip
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 September 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
so wait does the death star have a hyperdrive? it hadn't come to mind before that its passage from alderaan to yavin must have been pretty quick. except then it took forever to actually get into position to fire off a shot.
― known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Friday, 23 September 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Interstellar travel times make no sense and have no consistency at all in SW.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Whatever, I bet I can make the Kessel run in like, two or three parsecs.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 25 September 2011 04:29 (twelve years ago) link
"Using linked banks of 123 hyperdrive field generators tied into a single navigational matrix, the Death Star could travel across the Galaxy at superluminal velocities."
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 25 September 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
superliminal is a pretty great bit of nonsense
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
superluminal motion is a real concept! possibly real according to a possibly-not-to-be-recreated experiment!
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
A friend of mine bought the bluray box sets of Lord of the Rings and Star Wars Ep 4-6. They cost exactly the same amount. The Lord of the Rings box has five discs per movie, a huge book, and a nice packaging design. The Star Wars box has a standard DVD case with three discs in it, one per movie, and a single card for the cover art. That's it. The discs are gray.
― polyphonic, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
also the movies suck
― Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, September 26, 2011 5:48 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark
http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=89454&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=2983714
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
aw 77 link ruined my joke
then again you typed "superliminal" so it must be I who has missed the punchline
you can let me know when the ban for linking 77 offboard runs out :D
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Watched the blu-ray ANH last night. New Jabba sounds less like Jabba and more like one of the aliens from the prequels. He talks too fast. Also, he looks like a giant dried turd. He really looks like he needs a glass of water or something.
Obi Wan's new yell is fine. R2-D2 behind the rock, whatever, it's pretty ignorable. Everything else looked real nice. The first time you see the lightsaber it still looks like it did back in the day, with that strong flickering white light. Most of the other sabers in the film are more like the prequel versions but I'm glad that one bit stayed.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
obi-wan's yell re-edit didn't annoy me as much as it did more hardcore fans, but it just sits as yet another pedestal example of superfluous changes lucas implemented for the sake of seemingly who the fuck knows what
quite honestly the rebel yell wasn't something i'd ever have retained after 429x viewings of star wars. it's funny trying to figure out lucas's head and why he thinks these changes are necessary
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 06:38 (twelve years ago) link
"rebel yell"... erm, was listening to billy idol today. but i guess obi-wan is a rebel, as in distantly of the rebel alliance, no?
STET
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8968/041911tatooinefull600.jpg
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
Some LOLs from Mark Hamill in an AV Club interview today: http://www.avclub.com/articles/mark-hamill,62502/
Star Wars/The Empire Strikes Back/Return Of The Jedi (1977/1980/1983)—“Luke Skywalker”AVC: How has your relationship to your performance in that movie shifted over the years? MH: Well, I remember when we were like Sushi Girl. We were a little film trying to get attention, and having no idea whether people would be interested. So I was a great champion in the early days, and then it took on a life of its own. It was like being in a pop band that had a No. 1 single, and you’re just swept up in it all. And again, I thought there was a beginning, a middle, and an end. And that was fine for me, but it never really ended. Because it stayed in the culture for so long, and then [George Lucas] did the prequels, which brought it all back. At a certain point, you think you’ve reached the saturation point where you can’t really find anything new to add to the myth of it all, but it’s new generations. So in that sense, it’s hard to be cynical about something that makes people so happy. But like I say, it’s frustrating, because I’m not creatively engaged when he makes the special editions or… I guess it’s coming out in Smell-O-Vision now, where you can smell the wet Wookiee, and 3-D, and it’s a roller-coaster ride, and a breakfast cereal. It’s all these things. It’s almost like one of the original Mouseketeers being asked their opinion of Epcot Center. I mean, you’re tangentially connected to it, but not really hands-on. But it’s hard to say. I mean, I really related to George Harrison when they said, “What’s it like to be in The Beatles?” He says [imitates Harrison], “Well, what’s it like to not be in The Beatles?” ’Cause he didn’t know. He was in The Beatles, so he couldn’t imagine any other way. But like I say, I try and keep a distance, but also want to make people know. Because people will say, “I know you hate talking about Star Wars…” I say, “I don’t hate talking about Star Wars if you don’t hate talking about Star Wars.” I mean, I’m really in tune with what people want. And I’m not cynical about it at all. And people will say, “Oh, you didn’t get a very good deal.” But I didn’t get into this business for the money in any way. And I didn’t get into it to be remembered in any way. So the fact that it’s had such long-lasting resonance with new generations of audiences, it’s, to me, very special. What was it like not to be in Star Wars? I don’t know. What I like about the prequels is, they have their own identity. They’re of the CGI world in a way that we never were. We’re sort of the last vestiges of the old school of matte paintings, miniatures, and models. So this whole new world of CGI where everything was created, the buildings, the clouds and everything—it’s a different tone. They’re much more serious, and almost like religious epics, in a way. Ours were much more goofy, I think. It’s like Little Rascals in outer space, vs. The Greatest Story Ever Told.
MH: Well, I remember when we were like Sushi Girl. We were a little film trying to get attention, and having no idea whether people would be interested. So I was a great champion in the early days, and then it took on a life of its own. It was like being in a pop band that had a No. 1 single, and you’re just swept up in it all. And again, I thought there was a beginning, a middle, and an end. And that was fine for me, but it never really ended. Because it stayed in the culture for so long, and then [George Lucas] did the prequels, which brought it all back. At a certain point, you think you’ve reached the saturation point where you can’t really find anything new to add to the myth of it all, but it’s new generations. So in that sense, it’s hard to be cynical about something that makes people so happy.
But like I say, it’s frustrating, because I’m not creatively engaged when he makes the special editions or… I guess it’s coming out in Smell-O-Vision now, where you can smell the wet Wookiee, and 3-D, and it’s a roller-coaster ride, and a breakfast cereal. It’s all these things. It’s almost like one of the original Mouseketeers being asked their opinion of Epcot Center. I mean, you’re tangentially connected to it, but not really hands-on. But it’s hard to say. I mean, I really related to George Harrison when they said, “What’s it like to be in The Beatles?” He says [imitates Harrison], “Well, what’s it like to not be in The Beatles?” ’Cause he didn’t know. He was in The Beatles, so he couldn’t imagine any other way.
But like I say, I try and keep a distance, but also want to make people know. Because people will say, “I know you hate talking about Star Wars…” I say, “I don’t hate talking about Star Wars if you don’t hate talking about Star Wars.” I mean, I’m really in tune with what people want. And I’m not cynical about it at all. And people will say, “Oh, you didn’t get a very good deal.” But I didn’t get into this business for the money in any way. And I didn’t get into it to be remembered in any way. So the fact that it’s had such long-lasting resonance with new generations of audiences, it’s, to me, very special.
What was it like not to be in Star Wars? I don’t know. What I like about the prequels is, they have their own identity. They’re of the CGI world in a way that we never were. We’re sort of the last vestiges of the old school of matte paintings, miniatures, and models. So this whole new world of CGI where everything was created, the buildings, the clouds and everything—it’s a different tone. They’re much more serious, and almost like religious epics, in a way. Ours were much more goofy, I think. It’s like Little Rascals in outer space, vs. The Greatest Story Ever Told.
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
a breakfast cereal!
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/c3pOS.jpg
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
Had those! The mask was disappointing. The cereal was good.
― rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
hamill sounds surprisingly wkiw in that interview.
― thomp, Thursday, 29 September 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
I recently watched this, Star Wars Revisited, which is now basically the definitive version, imo. The picture quality and sound are superb too. Fuck the SEs.
― Beating up the Ritz (DavidM), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
So what exactly is the revisited version? It isn't really clear to me how he's deciding to make a lot of these changes. What was it like for you?
― Moodles, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I keep seeing references to new Laserdisc rips of the OT but my searches have come up empty. I think those would pretty much be the definitive versions.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
Also it is somewhat funny that there exists a whole facet of fandom intent on "recreating the original cuts" and then end up doing things like adding in new CGI Tie Fighters and putting blinking lights on Darth Vader's voice box. Isn't all that why you guys were pissed off at GL in the first place?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out about the Revisited version. It seems like less of an effort to bring back the original versions and more just this guy getting up to the same highjinx that got everyone pissed at Lucas.
― Moodles, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Is Revisited HD for New Hope done?
― polyphonic, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
I only watch the ASCII version of SW now. http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ (/hipster)
― Woolen Scjarfs (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I don't get the Revisited nerds at all. I'd be down if they were intent on recreating the theatrical cuts, but this whole "OH GOD GEORGE DON'T MESS WITH MY MOVIES AGAIN, but here, let me tell you how *I* think they should look" is nagl.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Revisited isn't about taking it back to the the original as it was in '77. It's more like Blade Runner: the Final Cut, in that it corrects multiple errors and inconsistencies, and shonky effects, jarring edits etc. As well as cutting out, cutting back, or re-doing some of the CG revisions on the SEs. It's amazing to me that ILM didn't do this, mostly basic, work themselves, but they didn't. Now it has been done. The only quibble I might have is that the Revisited guy may have overstepped his mark on the final battle over the Death Star (which looks fkn excellent now, btw). He's pretty much redone the whole thing in CG quite liked the original model work. That said, it does look better, and play better, than it has ever done. So...
Cannot wait for Empire Revisited tbh.
― Beating up the Ritz (DavidM), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
I quite like the original model work.
(Chewie now gets his medal, as well)
― Beating up the Ritz (DavidM), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
Is there an official place to download this or is it just available through various file sharing sites?
― Moodles, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
All that stuff is available thru illicit channels. A cool thing about GL is that he doesn't necessarily hunt down fan-made reinterpretations of his stuff.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
Oi, I'm really nerding out on Star Wars recently. Here's a story about a rare Technicolor print of the original. Check out the comparison between it (bottom) and the DVD (top):
http://savestarwars.com/images/goutstluke.jpghttp://savestarwars.com/images/goutstluke.jpg
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 September 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://savestarwars.com/technicoloribscreening.html
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 September 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
That link is great! Would dearly love to see the original Star Wars in the cinema again, the Technicolor print looks gorgeous.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Friday, 30 September 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
I've been on a Star Wars Ripoffs kick lately, with "Battle Beyond the Stars" and now watching "Starcrash". I'm starting to enjoy them more than the genuine article. There are lots of gratuitous special effects, silly plot points, hotter babes, and usually some gorgeous pulp-style paintings used for planets. Plus since the plots and acting are so cheesy, you can just kind of run them in the background while you're doing other things.
In "Starcrash" there is a great scene where the Emperor very smugly commands his spaceship "Computer, STOP THE FLOW OF TIME!" so they can escape a nuclear holocaust. This comes right after David Hasslehof has a light saber duel with two Harryhausen-style robots. The Luke Skywalker guy has a huge fro and rainbow-colored Force powers. The main damsel goes through the film in a space bikini and thigh high boots, and she has some awesome hot mess eyes. The main villain looks like a Liberace version of an Italian crime boss and has the greatest evil laugh ever. Some of the effects sequences resemble 60's psychedelic light shows more than anything. Lots of great, quotable batshit lines throughout.
I think the greatest gift "Star Wars" inadvertently gave was the contemporary ripoffs. Does anyone have any favorites?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
Holy crap the bad spaceship is a giant hand that turns into a fist!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
Battle Beyond the Stars is hilarious
giant boob ship!
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
In "Star Crash" they fire torpedoes that have soldiers in them! They fly in through the window and the guys pop out and star shooting. LOL
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
I love Star Crash.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
One thing I see is that lots of these films are using scenes that actually ended up in the "Star Wars" sequels, which were made after these. For instance, "Star Crash" has the ice planet (Hoth) and the girl gets kidnapped by the savages being saved by a golden god (Ewoks).
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
last night i had a dream that george lucas was shooting at me with a laser (it was some sort of new addition to one of the movies) while i yelled "OCCUPY HOTH" at him
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
where might you find Star Crash or Battle Beyond the Stars? Netflix doesn't seem to have either...
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
Amazon has 'em.
Torrents.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
another noted ripoff is Kinji Fukasaku's "Message From Space"
― steampunk magnum p.i. (los blue jeans), Thursday, 10 November 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://lotuswatcher.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/battlebeyond1.jpg
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 November 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://brianorndorf.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee7b642883301538f4d5727970b-500wi
^^^George Peppard
Message from Space looks great. Vic Morrow!
― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 November 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
Is that a ship, an alien's head, or a scrotum?
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 November 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukaEGDNeDQk
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 November 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
That is a ship, and I'm pretty sure they've come out and said they were boobs. The ship has nothing on Syb Danning tho.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iBuNz7Kv1jk/TIUubJ-kuUI/AAAAAAAAA2o/6vmCX5EtfgE/s1600/Battle+Beyond+the+Stars.jpg
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 November 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
looks more like a nutsack with ovaries
― the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 10 November 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
looks like Hammerhead!
― piscesx, Thursday, 10 November 2011 07:14 (twelve years ago) link
Here are some still from Star Crash, emphasis on the crazy lofi effects. When they go into hyperspace, it does some extremely gritty video feedback stuff that looks very chillwave.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6100/6331551111_0987588881.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6120/6331551189_b1bee7a882.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6221/6331551585_0259c24db9.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6332303534_37a471744b.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054/6332304152_67d5004933.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6101/6332304692_71fa3c6afc.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/6332304946_1f96d32f9a.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6035/6332308160_7a5f3df52a.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6093/6332308304_49cdc3595b.jpghttp://farm7.static.flickr.com/6096/6332311578_188b95052d.jpg
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
hmm that looks kind of awesome!
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Note to self: Watch Starcrash this weekend.
― i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
srs
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
David Hasselhoff is in Star Crash, fwiw
― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/ht_darth_vader_burger_nt_120106_wblog.jpg
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
jedi burger is totally scarier
― thomp, Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
giant jedi mouth w/mayo teeth & cheesy tongue
For the Jedi it is time to eat as well. Eat, eat. Hot. Good food, hm? Good, hmm?
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
Also you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as the burger is slowly digested in your stomach over a thousand years.
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
what are those chunks on the top of the jedi burger?
― Moodles, Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
Garlic or brie maybe?
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
either sounds disgusting
― Moodles, Saturday, 7 January 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Some websites claim marshmallows. I'm going to go for brie.
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, 7 January 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
Are those burgers in 3D?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, January 7, 2012 6:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Good joke, needs to be acknowledged.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 7 January 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
May the farts be with you.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, January 7, 2012 3:47 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
"No, but your face is!"
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfhtf9YYJH1qgsff2o1_500.gif
― i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Saturday, 7 January 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
No but 'Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace How To Make A Crap Film Crapper' is.
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Saturday, 7 January 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
DARK VADOR
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 January 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
how do you make a black bun like that?? what's in it?
― piscesx, Sunday, 8 January 2012 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
looks like a couple of patties, some salad and cheese
― Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
Midichlorians. Evil ones.
― the box cutter killer from the calcutta gutter (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 8 January 2012 09:49 (twelve years ago) link
Lucas actually comes across ok in this article from the BBC about his new film Red Tails... right up until the very last line.
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
Could have been worse, I was figuring it was going to say "Next up will be his Jar-Jar Binks biopic."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
In the last decade and a half, Lucas has given “Star Wars” several “final” cuts. For the 1997 special edition, he made Greedo, a green-skinned alien, fire his blaster at Han Solo because Han’s murdering Greedo in cold blood — as the 1977 version had it — struck him as a violation of his own naïve style. For the new Blu-ray version of “Return of the Jedi,” Lucas added Darth Vader shouting, “Nooo!” as he seizes the evil emperor in the movie’s climactic scene. Lucas made the Ewoks blink. And so forth.
When fanboys wailed, Lucas did not just hear the scream of young Jedis; he heard something like the voice of the studio. The dumb, uncomprehending voice in his Socratic dialogues — a voice telling him how to make a blockbuster. “On the Internet, all those same guys that are complaining I made a change are completely changing the movie,” Lucas says, referring to fans who, like the dreaded studios, have done their own forcible re-edits. “I’m saying: ‘Fine. But my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, needs to be the way I want it.’ ”
Lucas seized control of his movies from the studios only to discover that the fanboys could still give him script notes. “Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”
― max, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/george-lucas-red-tails.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
How you like that, Mr. Hitler
― job kreaytor (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
“Once this is finished, he’s done everything he’s ever wanted to do,” says Rick McCallum, who has been producing Lucas’s films for more than 20 years. “He will have completed his task as a man and a filmmaker.”
i imagine this quote slowly rising in pitch and intensity
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe then he can go back and add flying cars to American Graffiti.
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
looking forward to his personal art films tbf
― “How you like that, Mr. Hitler!” (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
hopefully all slow-mo exploding porpoises
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2305/2417520927_3644ec59cd.jpg
― omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ntDYjS0Y3w
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 07:22 (twelve years ago) link
Lucas seized control of his movies from the studios only to discover that the fanboys could still give him script notes. “Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”― max, Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:19 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― max, Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:19 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
So - basically, guys, we made a difference. All those terrible crimes did not go unpunished.
Note, though, that he hasn't defintively stated whether or not he will continue to work in the medium of building meter data.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
Then it's all been for nothing IMO.
― insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
now you can turn yr attention to the post-Jackie Brown crimes of Tarantino
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's just what we're gonna do
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
good
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.politicsdaily.com/media/2008/07/297.full.jpg
in the re-release, Nice Guy Eddie shot first
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 19 January 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
digitally subbing jar jar binks for tarantino's cameos would be great, though...
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 19 January 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
i really shouldn't make a 'meesa garage say dead gungan storage' joke, should i
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
But on the brighter side -- _Star Wars Uncut_ is finally out in a clean straight-through version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ezeYJUz-84
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”
I like how he's acting like he is taking all of his toys and going home when everyone is just happy and relieved.
― Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
"Lucas, who is 67 and still in possession of the full pompadour"
― @51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
I hope that "Uncut" inadvertently becomes the definitive version in everyone's minds, just to spite Lucas. I'm just sort of skipping through it randomly and my favorite so far is the Yellow Submarine-looking segment.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
Love that star wars uncut. Watched it all the way through yesterday. So much fun seeing the different ways people have gone about tackling their 15sec segments.
― get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Monday, 23 January 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link
I did the same. It was great! The common denominator is foil.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Mr Veg showed me some of it, it's really cool!
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
it's basically impossible to get your hands on a '77 release version of Star Wars now, right?
Watched a few minutes of Uncut -- cute, but points off for using that "Episode IV" shit in the crawl.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
well you're not going to like that they remade the extended version either
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
I probably wdn't notice, haven't watched SW since the '90s
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
On the bright side, the "Episode IV" title crap was added in 1981, and afaik that was the only change that was made until the revisionist 90s
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
interesting, i grew up seeing the 'episode iv' in the beginning and just always assumed it was in the original theatrical release
― Gukbe a lady tonight (some dude), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
GL was making Star Wars changes from day one. In 'Empire of Dreams' Mark Hamill talks about getting a call on opening day to schedule some time to re-do voice work for the mono release.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
There hadn't been a popular space opus in eons when SW came out, Hollywood mostly expected it to stiff... so probably even Lucas wasn't confident enough to think he was gonna make 5 more.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
also he invented the idea of the 'first trilogy' much later, come on now
― junior dada (thomp), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
I supposed so, but I haven't "read up"
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think Lucas was that confident in his ability to sell at all by that point. American Graffiti didn't really make up for the fact that THX 1138 was a battle where he wouldn't make cuts the studio wanted and then it bombed. The whole American Zoetrope enterprise had kind of bombed itself by the time he came around to Star Wars.
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_sequel_trilogy
Given the initial success of Star Wars, the pressure on Lucas to produce a sequel grew.[4] The extension of the initial film into a franchise, originally an homage, became a reality. Over time, conflicting reports concerning the number of sequels have been published.[4][6] In 1978, a Time magazine article reported that the newly formed Star Wars Corp. would be producing "Star Wars II, and then, count them, ten other planned sequels."[7] By the release of The Empire Strikes Back, Nicholas Wapshott was writing that "at least a further six films are planned." Wapshott noted that the stories were different from the original Hollywood serials by having individual stories despite their overall arc: "Star Wars may be the first feature film serial made up of consecutive stories."[4] In 1983 the nine-film saga was reported by a Time article[8] and The Times review of Return of the Jedi,[9] in The Washington Post[10] and the "9-film epic saga" plan continued to be repeated into the late 20th century and early 2000s.[11][12][13] The authors of the 1983 Time article briefly described the prequel trilogy, which they said would portray the "political intrigue and Machiavellian plotting that led to the downfall of the once-noble Republic." Of the sequel trilogy, they wrote, "Their main theme will be the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong. There was never any doubt in the films already made; in those the lines were sharply drawn, comic-book-style. Luke Skywalker, who will then be the age Obi-Wan Kenobi is now, some place in his 60s, will reappear, and so will his friends, assuming that the creator decides to carry the epic further."[8]
apparently as early as 1978 they were talking about a bazillion other Star Wars movies but the whole triple trilogy thing didn't get codified until 1983
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://webspace.webring.com/people/vm/mikebeidler/starwarsliteraturecompendium/blmcnty2.jpg
Can't find the first two panels, but here's the payoff
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
I think the real crime of george lucas was to not admit he has a mental defect that causes him to wake up every morning and NOT think "hey I'm kind of tired of Star Wars, how about if I give it a rest"
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Oh wait, here it is:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/vm/mikebeidler/starwarsliteraturecompendium/blmcnty1.jpg
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
i found it on vhs at goodwill a couple weeks ago for $1
― NZA, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think the originals are on blu-ray but you can still buy the DVD dual pack, I believe.
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Ah yes, the infamous DVD where they used the crappiest original transfer they could for the non-SE's.
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
And I believe also screwed up its aspect ratio
Is the preferred approach for SW fans still to download cleaned-up copies of the laserdiscs? lol
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
Yes it is and its a reason why there's such a long thread of hate devoted to George Lucas.
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
There is a "Despecialized" version from the usual channels online
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure the Holiday Special is what made it clear to him that he couldn't just pass Star Wars off to other filmmakers, which was his original plan. At first he wanted it to be like James Bond, with different people making SW movies, maybe in sequence, maybe prequels, maybe following different characters and stories, etc. The absolute disaster of the Holiday Special sort of put a nail in the coffin and solidified the 'This is my vision' aspect of the whole thing. I think that's the best explanation, really.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but Empire was largely handled by other filmmakers and screenwriters b/c he was working on Raiders of the Lost Ark on another part of the planet, and is a reason why that film is the best.
I was reading something elsewhere about how Lucas' divorce being one of the most important ones in Hollywood in the last 30 years. You had the most powerful independent(sorta) filmmaker severing connections with the one person in existence who could tell him "no." After that, he could happily wander off into any batshit unregulated direction he wanted.
Hell, Marcia Lucas saved SW, and one of the rumored reasons why Lucas kept/keeps changing & re-editing the flick is to get her name offa the credits and cut off her royalties.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
^^ this seems really likely and more so than bad critical reception, because if that was the case, he would have seriously rethought his ep2/ep3 strategies. From what I've gathered, the only people to push back successfully against his impulses have been women -- Leigh Brackett was apparently responsible for the majority of the Empire Strikes Back script with some editing/completion by Lucas and screenplay work by Kasdan.
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
Eh, most of Brackett's script didn't make it through to the shooting script. A lot of ideas were jettisoned and I don't recall much of the dialogue sticking around. You can read it here. Kasdan didn't work from her script at all on his version.
― Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
And not only that, but Kershner and the actors did a lot of revising right on the set.
― Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
I stand corrected!
― mh, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
short version of how Marcia L saved SW?
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
Star Wars was originally slated for release in Christmas 1976; however, delays pushed the film's release to summer 1977. Already anxious about meeting his deadline, Lucas was shocked when editor John Jympson's first cut of the film was a "complete disaster". According to an article in Star Wars Insider #41 by David West Reynolds, this first edit of Star Wars contained about 30-40% different footage from the final version. This included scenes that have never been seen elsewhere along with alternate takes of existing scenes. After attempting to persuade Jympson to cut the film his way, Lucas replaced him with Paul Hirsch and Richard Chew. He also allowed his then-wife Marcia Lucas to aid the editing process while she was cutting the film New York, New York with Lucas's friend Martin Scorsese.
― some dude, Monday, 23 January 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
there's a bunch of stuff about Marcia being critical to the editing process in Easy Riders, Raging Bulls iirc
― “How you like that, Mr. Hitler!” (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 January 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
"Star Wars may be the first feature film serial made up of consecutive stories."
I find this funny because I think of The Empire Strikes Back as the canonical (and first?) example of "Make one film - it does well - declare it a trilogy and end the second with TO BE CONTINUED". Not as bad as the Matrix's "Make the second film twice as long and cut it in half somewhere", but still definitely a thing.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 January 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Also I had assumed that the Part IV was initially the same sort of thing as "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away", a cheap way to give depth to the backdrop using the Magic of Words.
The Star Wars website used to have (er, ten years ago) a collection of "behind the scenes" recollections of the casts for the films - pretty much all the Empire ones are "And then Kershner thought of something or let one of the ad-libs (like "I know"!) stick and everything was better".
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 January 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
Empire is amazing and awesome, but i bet there were some moviegoers back in the day that thought "I am your father" was an irredeemably silly shark jump moment.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
literally no one thought this
― Chaka Collar, lemme rock you (DJP), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah you are probably right. But Lucas had similar fears about Yoda.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
I was interested in why Obi-Wan lied, and his weak-ass plea in Jedi ("he killed the SPIRIT of Anakin") kinda ended things for me
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
haha imagine if the prequel trilogy had actually existed
"Why did he lie to me?""Apparently he chopped yr dad's arms and logs off, then let lava wash over him""... oh"
― Chaka Collar, lemme rock you (DJP), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
Poor Ewan. They made Obi Wan as dull as dishwater in the prequels.
― Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Monday, 23 January 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
"what i told you was true... from a certain point of view" is iirc how obi wan's totally lame explanation to luke begins.
― Harvey Weewax (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
And Lucas kinda lampshades it in Revenge of the Sith:
YODA: Destroy the Sith, we must.
OBI-WAN: Send me to kill the Emperor. I will not kill Anakin.
YODA: To fight this Lord Sidious, strong enough, you are not.
OBI-WAN: He is like my brother ... I cannot do it.
YODA: Twisted by the dark side, young Skywalker has become. The boy you trained, gone he is . . . Consumed by Darth Vader.
― Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Monday, 23 January 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
HI DERE.
I may be the only person on ILX who has consistently thought that all the SW films outside of the very first non-special Star Wars were complete horseshit.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 23 January 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
they really missed a great opportunity to humanize Kenobi with his explanation of why he lied.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 23 January 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
― Gukbe a lady tonight (some dude), Monday, January 23, 2012 5:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
this completely changes my understanding of the universe
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
One of the bits that ML helped was her suggestion that George changed how he was editing it. I can't remember the line, but the difference in approach is between cutting to the action vs cutting to the dialogue. Marcia had him switch it up and the film improved by leaps and bounds.
The Red Letter Media/Plinkett vid on RotS really gets into how lazy/shitty he's gotten as a director, and how him wanting to shoot everything on green screen cramped a lot. It really is worth watching.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
Shooting everything on green screen & computer compositing is also how they made early 90s computer game cinematics. Check out Luke Skywalker in something that's basically a primordial version of the prequels style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpxItq_r7to
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
lolololol correct
i played those games growing up and was like "...................."
then i saw the prequels and was like ".................."
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
Aw, I liked WIng Commander III.
Still, games in the mid-90s were lousy with FMV crap. If you want a giggle, check out the cast for Privateer 2.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, give me the stilted cartoon opening animations of Wing Commander II any day.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
i liked wing commander 3 a lot, i have been trying to torrent it for 1+ years
just saying
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
interesting. kinda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbymgP6B324
― piscesx, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
Gog.com might have it
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 06:57 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not a huge star wars fan but there are some basic competencies of staging, shooting, editing even in that rough cut clip that seem to have almost disappeared by the time of the prequels. what the fuck happened to george lucas?
btw that recent NYT profile re. red tails made me angry b/c lucas was saying stuff like "we're going to make a big dumb naive WWII movie just like they used to." and he referred to flying leathernecks which will not perfect is by no means dumb and naive. lucas really doesn't have a very sophisticated or even accurate understanding of film history -- something i'd credit even spielberg with. lucas obviously had some kind of genius at some point but it's really obvious that for whatever reasons it's just flushed away now. i'm sure whatever 'experimental' films he plans on making now won't be any better than those godawful films coppola has been making lately.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 07:22 (twelve years ago) link
I still have WC3 on cd, I think. Came on 4 discs, and I got the bonus edition that came in a film can from some guy on rec.arts.tv.mst3k.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UBsN0.jpg
― ledge, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
a huge image for a huge crime
― ledge, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/internet-memes-disappointed-yoda.gif
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
there's another one of those Vodafone posters near my house and i swear it makes zero sense; i mean even less than that one. literally no connection whatsoever to Star Wars / Yoda at all.
― piscesx, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
That's why it's so zany! Star Wars characters being zany!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Yoda rhymes with Voda GEDDIT
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-9EYFJ4Clo
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69ftWNg97U
i've never seen so many 'dislikes' over 'likes' on a TV or film clip ever before.
From the Graun:
"LucasFilm are now promoting the rerelease with what it describes as a "kids featurette" (for which read: patronising trailer for those under the age of 10). If any sign were needed of the extent to which Lucas et al have come to resemble an eternally cash-hungry giant sarlacc in a barren desert of creativity, it is here. Hosted in the style of a McDonald's Happy Meal advert by an exuberant voiceover man who sounds like a harried parent trying to persuade a recalcitrant sprog to eat their dinner, it appears to have emanated from somewhere in the seventh layer of Hades.. "
― piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
read that as "an eternally cash-hungry giant garlic"
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
maybe that's the "art film" george lucas keeps promising to make?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
That trailer is fucking excruciating.
― nate woolls, Friday, 3 February 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
That HAS to be bad on purpose.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
from the YT comments: "George Lucas confirmed for master troll". The ongoing treatment of Star Wars IS like some kind of grand wheeze, perpetrated entirely and wilfully at the expense of anyone who liked it originally.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
Well, Star Wars basically was a giant exercise in trolling from day one. I mean "Wookies"? "Han Solo"?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, we wouldn't have any of this trouble if the long ago space pirates were all called Steve.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
Perhaps, but none of the original trilogy ever felt truly cynical and *shit* like this does, at least it doesn't to me. Yes, the names are all daft but there aren't any characters as poisonous as Binks or the trade federation bosses or Watoo. The biggest piece of "for kids" pandering was the Ewoks and even they are preferable to those army droid fucks.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
Yes but remember if Lucas had his way in the 70's C3PO would have been like a used car salesman. We were just lucky he didn't have 100% control at the time.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
The Ewoks are light years better than anything in the new trilogy.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
but Lucas has always had full control of the merchandising did he not?
― Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
I can picture an alternate world where we grew up with this cool C3PO who was like the metal version of Rudy Russo, and someone going "Ew, Lucas originally wanted him to be this poncey A/R butler type dude."
― pplains, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Irwin Kershner mentioned that they changed C3PO's style for Empire b/c they needed comic relief somewhere and he was the only option left.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
He was pretty much comic relief in Star Wars though?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Different vibe in SW. He talked his way thru situations and was a bit craftier in his few scenes
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
Yoda's pretty funny in Empire.
― piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
I like star wars better in black and white
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
Yes but remember if Lucas had his way in the 70's C3PO would have been like a used car salesman. We were just lucky he didn't have 100% control at the time.― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not so much a question of "control" but who lucas was surrounded with and how willing he was to take their advice.
i get the sense that these days he is surrounded by yes-men who question his judgement only at professional cost. that is evident even in the bonus materials on some of the star wars DVDs.
back in the '70s he wasn't "george lucas (tm)" and this had real effects both in terms of his own willingness to collaborate and other folks' willingness to question his bad ideas.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
Jedi bait:
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/6039
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
what is funny is that because I am not completely familiar with their ratings, I couldn't tell if they gave it 0/4 stars or 4/some indeterminate number because nothing was shaded
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
yeah. I believe the site was hacked during the day too, lolskywalker
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
guys lets pray that tpm3d fuckin TANKS
i mean i know it wont
but... wouldnt it be nice
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
While we are opposed to the Star Wars films and their mysticism, George Lucas's tendency towards replacement of the live-action elements in his re-releases is a step in the right direction of a new cinema. Hopefully in the next re-release he will replace all of the human actors with CGI creations.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link
not a banaka fan but loved that
― RejoicingShepherd (stevie), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
Hayden Christensen weeps (perhaps w/ gratitude)
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
I will be there this weekend, btw. I came home last night and my son gave me a very honest plea to see it.
One time I accidentally bad-mouthed Jar Jar Binks in front of him and he looked at me very confused and hurt and said "You don't like Jar Jar?"
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
Feel ashamed to say this, but I'll be taking my son to this over the weekend, and I'm the one who's excited about it.
I also saw TPM several times in the theater when it originally came out. I may have a problem....
― Moodles, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I'm there for you, Moodles. I saw it at midnight when it opened and several times after that.
(I'm white, btw)
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
I saw both TPM and AOTC twice in theaters, in an attempt to convince myself and others that each was better than they actually were.
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
ROTS I didn't see until someone uploaded it to YouTube in 10 parts, which probably wasn't the way to watch that one.
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
have you guys seen this? it's not good, but might have some extra chuckles for you.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/fanboys/4000
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
I actually saw ROTS at the charity premiere in Washington, DC, my wife having surprised me with $250 per person tickets. I sat directly in front of Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher.
xp "Not good" is very, very charitable for something that wastes the talents of everyone involved.
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
you are all the problem.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
well Fanboys did have one great Harrison Ford joke
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
Have always been disappointed that the Phantom Menace contained no actual phantoms.
― beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://screamsheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/gerard-butler.jpg
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://dawnsdvds.com/h/phan.gif
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
Looks about as good as the Phantom Menace, for what it's worth. Ben Affleck as Obi-Wan, Peter O'Toole as Qui-Gon...
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
I do love the "top-billed, not on poster, lol old people" nature of the whole thing.
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
this "thank you sir may I have another" psychology is baffling.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
― Moodles, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― beachville, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lets face it, the prequels gave all us SW nerds Stockholm syndrome
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Says the guy named after Trade Viceroy Nute Gunray. Yes I do want to kill myself for knowing that.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Now, has everybody else here all seen the RLM takes on these flicks?
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
^^ urgent & key
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
ya, that's the last time i'm going to spend towards star wars again. those are great.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
RLM?
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
rindustrial light and magic
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.freecoloring.info/img/scooby-doo-02.gif
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
These:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/
They go into what made the prequels fail as movies, versus why the originals worked. I like these a lot b/c they serve both as film class lectures, you could say, and as autopsies. Thanks to these guys, nobody ever needs to think about the prequels ever again. The flicks are dead & buried now.
The vids deconstruct the movies from a character & narrative angle, and in reviewing the 3rd one, spend an extended amount showing exactly how Lucas is a horrible director who just stopped trying decades ago.
A sample taste:
Well worth your time, as is their weekly "Half in the Bag" review series.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
They have been discussed at length in this thread.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
I know. I'm asking again b/c the folks who participate in active convos in here change over time.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit there's an indy 4 one? see you in an hour.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
he also reviews 'cop dog' - wtf that is
― strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
the cop dog review is excellent imo
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
He actually doesn't totally hate Indy 4 iirc
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
idg the appeal of those RLM things. can people not work out for themselves why these movies are awful or something
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
seems like they act more as therapy for victims of Lucas' abuse than as anything particularly insightful
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
idg why people read or experience any kind of cultural commentary, ppl cant realize all this shit on their own or something
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
They are plenty insightful. One thing that always stuck with me is when he demonstrates how people in the prequels are always walking everywhere even when shit is going down because they were all filmed in little green boxes and they didn't have the space to actually run around. Like i had always known that the over-reliance on shitty CGI was one of the main reasons the prequels suck but that was as an aspect of it i'd never thought about
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
I don't need 10-minutes of pseudo-comical commentary to grasp that the characters in Phantom Menace are non-existent/underdeveloped. sorry. it's the level of insight here that I'm getting at, not the existence of commentary itself.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
You don't need to apologize for having different needs than we do, it's cool.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
some ppl like to think about things in depth, its just like... a habit i guess
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
Shakey has never listened to a commentary track
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ 'level of insight' rhrn
― BJ O (Lamp), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
― polyphonic, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 6:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seconded, might have to watch that again sometime
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
the scene where he destroys his tv with jizz whilst watching an olson twin movie is a++++
― strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, it didn't add any insight
― polyphonic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
Cop Dog and Baby's Day Out are two vids they did just to break things up, I think, since they were in the middle of the year when all the prequels were done.
And I never really like calling them "reviews" b/c the things are far more akin to lectures or case studies; they're not just saying "these suck", they get into the minutia of why and how.
A fair amount of people complain about the voice they take("Mr Plinkett") to express their content, but I think it's like Film Crit Hulk, where you have a deliberately affected voice of a dumb person saying smart things.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 9 February 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
film crit hulk owns
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 9 February 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
What? This is not the Internet our forenerds fought for.
― trishyb, Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link
I'm actually thankful for the overbloated 3D movie ticket price because it's going to be SO much easier for me to say "$15 to see Jar Jar Binks, so effing way".
I was talking with a friend last night about these. He said he liked AOTC the best out of the prequels because of the Yoda fight, and I remembered at the time seeing the Yoda fight was the coolest thing ever. I know it "sullies the solemn nature of Yoda" or whatever and is an obvious videogame cash grab, but it was the only genuinely thrilling and surprising moment for me in the whole prequel series.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
The prequels are all terrible but I actually liked a lot of the *imagery* in Attack of the Clones. I thought the stormy water planet with the clone factory looked neat, and I liked the quasi-Harryhausen monster arena toward the end.
― adolf jingle bells (latebloomer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
And Christopher Lee is just always a badass.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry s1ocki
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed about the imagery. The best format for the prequels would've been a large, wordless coffee table book of full-page photographic illustrations.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Attack of the Clones is my favorite of the prequels. In particular, I really enjoy the sequence of battle scenes starting with the gladiator scene through to the end of the movie. Each of those sequences has some really nice visual ideas going on.
― Moodles, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060414171016/starwars/images/thumb/9/99/Queenamidalapaperdoll.jpg/250px-Queenamidalapaperdoll.jpg
― ledge, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp. I er own that btw. According to the back "Inside this book you'll find a collection of the Queen's most gorgeous gowns, each one more richly detailed than the next".
― ledge, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Did you?
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
They did not get progressively shitter iirc.
― ledge, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the Red Letter stuff is very informative in easy to understand yet cine literate terms whereas most reviews don't bother with a lot of that stuff nor have the space to go at it in such detail. the whole 'walking and talking' comparison with the first 3 movies bit is amazing. i mean sure some folk can work all that out for themselves and shiz but i still appreciated someone else taking the trouble and making it so funny.
― piscesx, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
i actually find the RLM stuff very smart and insightful. i like smart and insightful commentary on film, especially when it deals with the purely cinematic/mise-en-scene elements that RLM stuff really focuses on. the idea that people would just "figure this stuff out themselves" is ridiculous.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, February 9, 2012 4:59 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seriously. i hope nobody thinks i was trying to defend the prequels. cuz there's a *lot* of hideous, ungainly cinematography and doofy effects in these movies in addition to the scant few things i was singling out for praise.
― adolf jingle bells (latebloomer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
The waterworld stuff in AOTC I actually liked, because it was Obiwan investigating and learning things, and we were learning along with him.
Yoda fight was dumb, and deliberately went against the character into fanboy wank that never works. Film Crit Hulk wrote something about how if your approach to plotting starts with "Wouldn't it be cool if" you usually have already lost.
Also, there's something about all these guys' critiques that I find educational, making me more aware of shit than my coupla film classes built me up. It's made me more conscious and apprehensive and pretty much just disdainful of geeky friends getting hyped for upcoming geek shit regardless of any possible quality or point.
It's like, news flash, nerds won; genre consumption has gotten predictably monetized so there will always be plenty of geek/nerd shit on sale for you. There will always be plenty of superhero movies, fantasy epics, and sci-fi auctioneers for you to blow dosh on. You just don't need to breathlessly anticipate empty genre crap.
I can't remember if it was either Hammet or Chandler who ripped into how shit genre entertainment could be, and yet still get pushed out into the marketplace. He said in the '30s, about how the average mediocre novel won't necessarily get published, but that the most average mediocre detective story sure as shit will.
This is probly needs a thread all its own, but I find it heavily relevant to everything Lucas has shat out post-Radioland Murders.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
u sorta forget he/they also *looked* pretty cool back in the day. you know for film nerd types.
http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Kate-Capshaw-Steven-Spielberg-George-Lucas-and-Harrison-Ford-from-Indiana-Jones-and-the-Temple-of-Doom1.jpg
― piscesx, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
Did they?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
Spielburg's shorts not so much, but the rest totally. But Harrison Ford basically looks good in anything.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Spielberg and Lucas were NEVER cool
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
Putting Indy-era Ford in there is stacking the deck imo
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
Spielberg was the coolest director in Hollywood after Jaws. But, that awesomness capital has obviously been spent.
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
More red meat for everyone here:
THR: People can get fanatical about the movies — how does that make you feel? The puppet vs. CGI Yoda ruckus, and the who-shot-first, Han Solo or Greedo furor come to mind.Lucas: Well, it’s not a religious event. I hate to tell people that. It’s a movie, just a movie. The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.
Lucas: Well, it’s not a religious event. I hate to tell people that. It’s a movie, just a movie. The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
And, indeed:
THR: What’s the status of Indiana Jones 5? Steven Spielberg says he’s waiting to hear from you.Lucas: I know, and I’m supposed to be working on it right now, but I’m talking to you instead (Laughs).
Lucas: I know, and I’m supposed to be working on it right now, but I’m talking to you instead (Laughs).
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
so Red Tails has bombed, yes?
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
All art is technology and it improves every year
Says it all really. What a cock.
― ledge, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
xpost -- Not entirely:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=redtails.htm
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
cadence of this is very Geir-esque
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
Insisting on calling Star Wars "Episode IV" is one of the things that most annoys me about him. It's your own film. Call it by its name. The last time he was on the Daily Show I just couldn't watch it, because I couldn't watch Jonny Beefstew fawn over this wanker yet again.
― trishyb, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
Again, dude's in a place where no one can say no to him. He divorced the only person who could like 30 years ago.
Another one of the good points that Mike @ RLM made when reviewing the blu-ray changes is that there's a weird ownership thing going on where Lucas has gotten to the point where he's changing flicks that he didn't write or direct, and inserting things into them that fundamentally alter the characters for no reason. Han shooting first was just the tip, but also luke screaming when he fell(added and then removed) and the Vader "No".
We can safely wrap everything up by reminding ourselves that -> Dude things Empire is the worst of the three originals. Says it all.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
I like Sean's take here:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/george-lucas-says-han-never-shot-first-you-were-ju,69159/
As it turns out, those who saw that controversial edit as a fundamental betrayal of the character—changing Han Solo from a shrewd, streetwise bad-ass to a guy who got really lucky that Greedo is such a lousy shot; rendering his evolution from amoral antihero to full-blown hero less meaningful, etc. —well, they were just confused all along, because Lucas now says Han never shot first[...]Indeed, it was only the audience’s own bloodlust that led them astray and left them so confused for so many years—a bloodlust that festered into their ravenous need to set jaws upon George Lucas every time he tries to make his work a little more innocent and magical. Fortunately, all it took was a wider shot and a grafted-on cartoon laser beam to save future generations from wandering down that same dark path, which leads only to anger, hatred, and in forthcoming editions, a nice periwinkle garden.
[...]
Indeed, it was only the audience’s own bloodlust that led them astray and left them so confused for so many years—a bloodlust that festered into their ravenous need to set jaws upon George Lucas every time he tries to make his work a little more innocent and magical. Fortunately, all it took was a wider shot and a grafted-on cartoon laser beam to save future generations from wandering down that same dark path, which leads only to anger, hatred, and in forthcoming editions, a nice periwinkle garden.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, being cool for a 70s film director is pretty faint praise. It was nerd central.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
"Jonny Beefstew"?
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
Spielberg wasn't cool after Jaws. He was "hot"
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
It's what muppet Michael Steele used to call Jon Stewart.
― trishyb, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
we concur.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
Spielberg was cool when he directed Joan Crawford when he was 22.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
i think the prequels are sad and largely awful but i can't deny that there are some affecting sequences that i grudgingly admire. weirdly they are probably more affecting out of context since your brain hasn't been numbed and/or offended by the dreck surrounding them.
there's something similarly affecting about reading interviews w/ lucas between 1970 and 1975 or so; he's treated with respect by film comment and the like, and he muses almost modestly about wanting to make a film paying tribute to the serials he grew up watching. the interviewers often comment on his innovative use of camera technology in american graffiti and that film's innovative wall-to-wall sourced soundtrack. little did we know that the mythopoetics he was dreaming up would consume nearly his entire career and swallow his talent -- almost whole.
what do people think about american graffiti? i respect it, but i don't really enjoy it. two thoughts about that. one, i think it's hard for me to "see" clearly through all the dozens (or 100s) of films that have ripped it off to varying amounts. what read like impossibly worn clichés now obviously read differently in 1973. two, it seems a like a film that would benefit from seeing it in 35mm on a big screen. the cars and all that.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
also it's a cliché but lucas was probably always better shooting cars and technology than people, in a way. i don't mean that solely as a "he doesn't care about people" slight. there's an inventiveness to the way he shoots cars in A.G. and spaceships in S.W. that isn't matched the pedestrian ways he blocks and shoots actors. this problem obviously intensifies with the prequels, where most dialogue sequences can properly be called "inept."
as someone who teaches film it's totally unforgivable that lucas has taken the original star wars out of circulation. it's a film of enormous historical importance, not least for its special effects, and showing the 1997 or later versions in a film history class would make no sense.
it's ironic that "star wars" was one of the first features chosen for the national film registry, since lucas has ensured in years since that even if the original film negative or projection prints are sitting in archives, nobody is going to show them to the public. i'd actually like to write a nice letter explaining how keeping the original version in circulation somehow would be a service to the study of film history, but i get a feeling he wouldn't reply or possibly would shit in a box and send it to me overnight.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
^he already did that. it's called Star Wars on blu-ray.
― adolf jingle bells (latebloomer), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_100705b.htm
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i didn't really care much until i started teaching.
i've ONLY ever seen the original version. in theaters during its 82-83 revival in advance of return of the jedi, and then frequently on BETA and VHS in subsequent years. probably the last time would've been in the early '90s. i've never seen the various "revisions" and have no interest in seeing them.
so it's kind of o_O for me to read above that other folks have never seen the original and/or didn't realize the "episode iv" thing was tagged on after the fact.
kids these days IIRC.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
Lookee that, just in time:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars-the-phantom-menace-3d/
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 10 February 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
apparently the version in the registry is the 1997 or whatever "special edition." its kind of a disgrace.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 06:22 (twelve years ago) link
It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.
i cannot believe he's trying to gaslight the hundreds of millions of people who saw han shoot first.
― omar little, Friday, 10 February 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
A billion dollars will feed any particular delusion you care to nurture or randomly devolve into.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 10 February 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
I know, it's like someone needs to tap him on the shoulder and say "um, actually, these are the droids we're looking for, thanks." But, as has been pointed out above, he has maneuvered himself into a position where this will never happen.
i've never seen the various "revisions" and have no interest in seeing them.
I've watched each of the revised versions of Star Wars once, on television, because I will never give him any more of my money.
The first time I saw American Graffiti I was too young to know it was made by the Man Who Made Star Wars, and was mostly concentrating on the fact that the bloke from Close Encounters AND the bloke from Happy Days were in it (how could such a thing be?). Maybe those people helped make it better? Or maybe it was just better for the same tired reason: because there were people around him then who would curb his worst excesses and keep him focused on the thing he originally said he wanted to do.
― trishyb, Friday, 10 February 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link
A good line in Peter Bradshaw's Guardian review of the re-release:
Watched again now, Phantom Menace seems flat rather than actually objectionable: there is something almost exotic in its intricate dullness, and characters like Jar-Jar are now too boring to be offensive.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 10 February 2012 09:38 (twelve years ago) link
apparently the version in the registry is the 1997 or whatever "special edition." its kind of a disgrace.― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:22 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, February 10, 2012 12:22 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well there isn't really a "registry" that holds actual copies of films, as far as i understand. it's just a way of establishing preservation priorities and to highlight the importance of film preservation and restoration in general. and since star was "inducted" in 1989, before any of the revisions, i think we can assume it's the original version that they had in mind.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
star WARS i mean
am you should write an op-ed and subit it to the times or something
― max, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
im serious -- i never really thought about star wars' "historical importance" but i think youre totally right
Yeah you could say the historical important mostly lies in the special effects, which were hand-crafted in-house and started a number of companies that have dominated the industry for decades. And yeah it's shitty to say "ah, that was no good" and go in and replace it w computers.
The funny thing is, every time I see any of the SW there are a bunch of things that are still wrong that they could easily fix rather than doing stupid stuff like the rock in front of R2. For instance there's a bit in SW where Darth Vader is talking to one of his men and after he is done talking the actor is still gesturing. That seems like a pretty simple fix. There's plenty of little bits here and there where the voice overdub is just a little too long for the reaction shot that follows it, etc.
Looking forward to this RLM stuff.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
I recommend http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/ if you dare to take the geekiest plunge of your life. Really gets into GL's headspace.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
the saddest thing for me personally is that while i grew up with & used to love these films, i now kinda fucking hate them and everything about them.
part of that is prob the geek culture over-embracing of SW (helvetica minimalist fan posters etc), part of it is the fact that you can't even see the original films now.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
Ok that 3D review is just the old one with a fake 3D filter and a very few extra cheesy 3D bits thrown in.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
that's the joke
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
exactly! if you're teaching a history of the past several decades of american cinema and wanted to talk about special effects--or dolby sound for that matter-- well star wars is a key film, the key film in some ways. but of course you won't understand the nature of its contribution if you see the revised versions.
indeed the extent to which the effects are "flawed" or obvious is itself an important part of the history. teachers have to able to explain the processes by which they were made and how that is and isn't revealed on screen.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes i think we should have some kind of patrimony laws that allow for the preservation and availability (at least to researchers/teachers) of stuff -- a legal "right" that trumps the rights of the author. but that will never happen.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
man i wonder how much vintage 35mm prints of star wars go for these days.
most of 'em are probably pretty beat up.
stalinist lol from that interview ned linked:
If you look at Blade Runner, it’s been cut sixteen ways from Sunday and there are all kinds of different versions of it. Star Wars, there’s basically one version — it just keeps getting improved a little bit as we move forward.
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
"improved"
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
RLM has put out an actual new thing - commentary track for Episode 1. Might be worth saving for the next time I'm home for the holidays and stuck on the couch and cable is showing the marathon of all these goddamn movies.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 February 2012 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
Lucas' late 70s plans for a Bondesque franchise are actually all kinds of awesome. Can't be bothered to dig up the quote, but I would love to see the minimal dialogue droids only film he proposed.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
And you can sense his excitement in those early interviews for being the creator of a fun, quirky, unexpectedly mega-popular new thing, as opposed to the later burdened beard-faced Keeper of the New Western Myth.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2012 06:47 (twelve years ago) link
it's great that he uses the Blade Runner example. For the blu-ray release, we got 6 (I think) versions of the movie: original, director's cut, restored with new effects, workprint etc. And Scott was appreciative of how fans could have their different favorites and no one was "definitive."
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 February 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's a great counterpoint to the way lucas has handled star wars. in fact i know folks who have compared the different versions of blade runner in class -- so the fact that they are all easily available (and on blu-ray, no less) is a godsend.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think any of the versions of B.R. have new effects though? there was the original workprint, the original scott cut that went unreleased, the version released in 1982, an edit scott made for a 1990s release which is a reworking of his original cut, and finally the so-called "definitive" version that scott put together a few years back. i'm not aware that any of these have new effects work. i thought it was different edits, essentially--and a revised soundtrack.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link
the bluray has new effects, but it's very subtle. Sprucing up the lighting in the cityscapes and stuff.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 February 2012 07:58 (twelve years ago) link
there's not like, little monkey shaped aliens running around in the background or anything.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 February 2012 07:59 (twelve years ago) link
ah, i see.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 08:08 (twelve years ago) link
they didn't add a fat funny-accented replicant sidekick for comic relief?
he added in a whole new scene of Deckard wearing a negligee jerking off over a photo of his maybe-mom...changes EVERYTHING
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
that does make sense of the final scene where edward james olmos
spoiler
leaves an origami version of deckard's mom in the hallway. i always wondered what was up with that.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
'improved'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd7Wh4vrVyk
― piscesx, Saturday, 11 February 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
Yub-Yub: Gone but not forgotten.
― Millsner, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
The GF and I saw TPM in 3-D tonight, mostly because we couldn't think of anything better to do.
I really wish we'd have thought of something better to do :(
― Millsner, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
Hopefully you guys got well lit before the show.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
fucking yub nub
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
;_;
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
― Millsner, Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:41 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
spending a night on the toilet due to diarrhea is probably preferable to seeing that film again. at least you can get some reading done.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
re. those clips i don't think return of the jedi is really any better than the prequels.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
oh c'mon
― Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
like on a visual level alone...
― Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://neofilm.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/return-of-the-jedi-poster.jpg
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-phantom-menace-movie-poster-01.jpg
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
it's amazing how consistently awful the visual design of every single thing in the new trilogy is: padme's costumes, jar jar, darth maul's makeup, liam neeson's face
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://dyn3.media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/17726540.jpg.size-300_maxheight-300_square-true.jpg
http://di1-3.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/1e/d8/c7/46478690-260x260-0-0_Hasbro+Star+Wars+Episode+I+Sebulba+s+Pod+Racer+Wit.jpg
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
"we" got 6 versions of Blade Runner, eh
$ucker$
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
imagine how much better it would have been if Neeson played Qui-Gon like his character in Taken
― Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
xp i don't want my 'thing' to be to pop into fantasy threads and explain how the fictions people are talking about fail at realism, but it's interesting how there's a strong vein of form-follows-function in the originals. vs stuff like the pod racers, which come on.
even darth vader's costume (!) was a series of devolopments like: well, he needs a ventilator. and armor, also. so what if the ventilator and the armor are joined. huh that looks kind of cool. -- whereas darth maul's is just so plainly the result of straining to invent a 'cool villain look'
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
liam neeson and ewan mcgregor got so shafted when they agreed to do those movies, i think
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
like how long do you think you're attached to fuckin' star wars before you get a script
by that point how far past too late is it to call your agent and go 'hey maybe i don't want to be a jedi, you know'
and then when you've made one horrible film and you know you're stuck there for two more
― Number None, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
I still remember a reporter breaking the news to Ewan McGregor that the second film was going to be named Attack of the Clones and his subsequent shock and disbelief. I think he had no idea of what he was getting into.
― Nicole, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:05 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i paid $12.50. they overproduced that thing, and you can get copies for nothing.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They all came in the same set...?
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
Lol
to be fair to ewan tho what would you do if you were cast as OBI WAN FUCKING KENOBI and you show up to the set the first day and find out you have to do a scene opposite the kid from jingle all the way and stepin fechit inside a blue room?― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:21 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can't be quoted enough IMO. Really, really makes you feel for these guys.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
RotJ is underrated. The Jabba sequence, the epic space battle, the Emperor's camp hamminess - all top-drawer.And the Ewoks really aren't too bad, though I like them best when they're trying to cook and eat all the heroes.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
Otm
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
cosign
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but no-one thinks those movies suck because of Ewan & Liam, it's all GL's fault. Any embarrassment is drowning in their 3rd summer homes' new pools.
As for ROTJ, the new CGI scene kind of ruins it forever imo.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
Same thing with all the originals imho
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/why-star-wars-prequels-better-original-trilogy-160300514.html
haha Yahoo Contributor Network was always a horrible idea for this reason.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
had to double check that it wasn't Armond White slumming it on Yahoo but whomever it is has studied him well...
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Trolling for fun & pageviews probably.
― Nicole, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but it's not just a dinosaur butt moving in front of the frame for a split second, or a bunch of tiny whizzing robots zooming around. It's a scene where Jabba the Hutt is killing some poor slave girl and now that action is inter-cut with achingly show-offy CGI of a cartoon singing in extreme closeup. Instead of the scene being menacing, now it's menacing for 2 seconds, then silly for 2 seconds, then back and forth between the two until it just kinda ends with the death of the girl while an alien goes "Uh-oh!" like some effing Bugs Bunny cartoon.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
no i'd wager this doof actually believes it given the pretentious language and far-reaching analogies, including one involving Bush despite shooting for Phantom Menace happening well before he was elected xpost
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 11 February 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
still not as funny as that "mirroring" essay
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Why don't things ever pop out of the screen in nu 3D movies? That was kind of the only fun thing about them.
I found myself enjoying TPM more for the film itself than for any changes brought by the 3D, which was minimal at best.
― Moodles, Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, so is the TPM 3D just... the Phantom Menace, in 3D? I was sort of banking on Lucas going back and changing a bunch of shit so that people would be flying more directly at the screen and so on.
Also sort of expected him to add a bunch more Jar-Jar just to be a prick. And fulfill his long-suppressed original vision, obviously.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
I like them best when they're trying to cook and eat all the heroes.
seriously. i love those murderous pagan teddy bears.
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
Xpost
The 3D was very subtle. I didn't notice any obvious big changes.
― Moodles, Sunday, 12 February 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
Or, as my son said "I don't think the 3D glasses worked." : /
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Sunday, 12 February 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
There was never actually any 3D. You just thought it was there, but Lucas took it out to avoid confusion.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 12 February 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
that would actually be some kind of conceptual coup.
"i know you went to see 'phantom menace in 3D.' well, you saw 'phantom menace' and as for the 3D... the 3D is -- you!"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 12 February 2012 09:54 (twelve years ago) link
Well, parts of the movie were in 3D. I peeked over my glasses from time to time just to check. But it was subtle, and it would be during like, the part where the king of the Gungans makes Jar Jar Binks a general and he faints.
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
well, you saw 'phantom menace' and as for the 3D... the 3D is -- you!
Pretty sure this is the end of "The Holy Mountain."
― the box cutter killer from the calcutta gutter (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link
way way late on this but anyone who doesn't "get" the idea of the multiple cuts of Blade Runner that, through their differing nuances, tell slightly different stories and infer different possible interpretations of the story can go DIE IN A FIRE.
― #1 Inspector Spacetime Fanboy (Viceroy), Sunday, 12 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I think PKD would have loved that! Its totally in keeping with the whole point of the movie and its source material.
~suckas~
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
it's amazing how consistently awful the visual design of every single thing in the new trilogy is: padme's costumes
wth, padme's costumes are pretty dope. prob the best thing about the films tbh *clutches padme's costumes paper cut-out book to chest, flounces off in a huff*
― ledge, Sunday, 12 February 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i really like having all the versions of blade runner. six might be overkill, unless you are simply fascinated with the production process and history -- but at the least the original release version and the newest so-called "Definitive" version are extremely interesting to compare.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 13 February 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
plus, like i said, you can get 'em all for dirt cheap.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 13 February 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
ledge is right. padme looked consistently great throughout the prequels. Queen Amidala was pretty unbelievable though.
http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/01/duffy/handmaiden.jpghttp://www.beertripper.com/OffTopic/2010/off-pics/Natalie_Portman/Natalie_Portman_Padme_Amidala_Tatooine.jpghttp://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b2/Padmegreenscrshot.jpg
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:37 (twelve years ago) link
man remember when you found out that it was the double who died? what a twist!
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 13 February 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
$23,000,000 in ticket sales this weekend.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 13 February 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
jesus christ
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
it's being considered a disappointment
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
anyway it wouldnt have even made that if people like our co-ilxists upthread hadnt caved. SHAME ON YOU.
xp: that's really weird. I was in a completely packed theater for a Saturday matinee.
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Monday, 13 February 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
the audience for this is most likely young kids (and their parents) so it would make sense for a Saturday matinee to be packed, I would think
― silverfish, Monday, 13 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah okay. I could see there being some midnight showings that were total busts.
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Monday, 13 February 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
or maybe some people came to their senses
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
If you didn't have a kid, I can't comprehend why you'd go see The Phantom Menace 3D. If you have a kid, you already make a lot of choices I can't comprehend.
― da croupier, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
If George Lucas walked up to you while you watched Phantom Menace 3D alone and slapped you in the face with his dick repeatedly while shrieking "3-D IN YO FACE! NEW CGI, BITCH!" I'd have a hard time having any sympathy for you.
― da croupier, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
^^^wait isn't that basically what's happening?
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
it's him stroking his waddle while doing this that's so distressing
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
Not only have I withstood two hours of dick-slapping to the face. Not only that I've paid him $22 to do it. But I'm on my THIRD go round with this one.
It was totally worth it to take my kid to the movie. I'm sure I'll pony up for AOTC and ROTS too. But by the end of the movie I was just sort of sitting there with my head in my hands.
― The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
good thing you're going to do it again and again!
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
I think those Clone Wars cartoons got a lot of little kids interested in seeing this.
― Nicole, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
Those shows are way better than the prequels, btw
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
will never really understand masochism I guess
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
xp: yes. They are way better than the prequels, although the Truman Capote gay Hutt character is on a par with Jar Jar for me.
― things you're secretly kinda tranny about (beachville), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
The 2d animated shorts by Genndy Tartakovsky, also called Clone Wars, has more thrill power in 20 3-minute segments than George Lucas managed in all of the prequels.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
I've seen some of the Clone Wars series thanks to a friend's kid and yeah, they are really well done. Lucas NOT getting directly involved beyond the basics was probably key. I think by now there's been more hours of them all told than the original six movies.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I only watched a bit but what I saw was super-violent. totally not letting my 4 yo watch that shit
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
Genndy Tartakovsky did star wars cartoons???! omg
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah it was all this mini-episode stuff in the run up to the third movie. And as Andrew sez, it's great.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
I admit I was kind of shocked that a recent episode of Clone Wars I saw featured a squad of clones arguing over whether they should hand over a prisoner or execute him vigilante-style. Not quite what I expected from a Cartoon Network show, but entertaining to watch.
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
you mean a squad of clones WARRING
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Get your clone war on
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwabxgoSGZY
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
Love how there's no iconic, pop-culture touchstone voice for Darth Maul for them to do an impression of so they just kind of fuck around improvising for thirty seconds...more dialogue than he had in the whole film, yes?
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
great commercial
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
very humourous take on the iconic darth maul character we all love to hate
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
grrrr... he's so evil!
does make it kinda fun to see him get his, though
disappointed that Lucas is allowing these sacred totems to be exploited by opportunist companies
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
it's an insult to their native cultures
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
he cd have just made up some stupid shit
brb
Pretty sure when I saw this back in 1994 my reaction was "Whoa, a new Star W...wait, what the hell?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxafIhYFOr0
This was around the same time I think I went "Wait...did I fever-dream it or was there some holiday special nobody talks about any more?"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
"simulated demonstration"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 31 March 2012 07:48 (twelve years ago) link
http://youtu.be/4OnDizZ7UT0
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OnDizZ7UT0
another crime: not putting the classic characters in the video games since the SNES days (dancing excepted)
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
what the
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, I kind of think dancing Han Solo may be the best thing to come from the Star Wars world in a long time.
― Moodles, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
I can't even deal with that, too much lol
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Friday, 6 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
Oh wow i hadn't watched the whole thing. Lando gets his turn in the spotlight too!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
may I remind you of a little thing they call MASTERS OF TERAS KASI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTElGKKnVIY
it was sort of an ill-advised game design
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
omg i remember that game
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
The PSX readied the world for 3D character art, albeit in the most painful way possible
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 6 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
that game was p awesome stfu
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 April 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
HOAR
that is cooler than any of the prequels
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
that's a hella lame lightsaber darth has got.
― Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
LOL Masters of Teras Kasi
I think I bought that on my birthday the year it came out...I remember how huge of a letdown it was.
― Teenage Mutant Ninja Body Image (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi is a Lucasarts fighting game released in 1997 and set in the fictional universe of Star Wars. "Teräs Käsi" refers to a martial art used in the game; and, while being in grammatically incorrect form, is Finnish for "steel hand".
― Teenage Mutant Ninja Body Image (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
the crimes of tuomas ('90s on)
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Saturday, 7 April 2012 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M
― Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
It's like they felt the need to rip off Tekken even in the name...
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
Very well done! The bodies exploding as they fall into the water was Lol.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Giant squid was super well done.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, is that music at 30 secs in a dance-version of the Cannibal Holocaust theme?
― Øystein, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, this is indeed true! When Kingfish posted the Youtube link I thought it was some Finnish parody because of the name, but apparently it's the real thing!
The correct way to write "steel hand" would be "teräskäsi", btw, since it's a compound word in Finnish.
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ter%C3%A4s_K%C3%A4si
I wonder where the heck they got the idea to name it in Finnish?
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
cos it looks like something spoken by aliens
― Number None, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
IIRC, there's some old American sci-fi movie where the "alien" tongue spoken by aliens is actually Finnish! They say something like "Sibelius makes excellent music" in Finnish.
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
Tolkien's Elvish was based on Finnish too wasn't it?
― Number None, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
Partly, I think, though it doesn't have any same words or anything.
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
Finnish Him
― ledge, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
Well, Darth and Luke both have steel hands.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
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― Doctor Casino, Friday, 13 April 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
can we go back to dancing Han Solo for a second
also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRRTRGehkuM
the songs are fucking incredible, I am dying
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Please God, stop words from popping out of their crotches...Garange80 3 days ago *36 thumbs-up*
Garange80 3 days ago *36 thumbs-up*
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXp8T097vjc&feature=related
I want to buy an X-Box solely for this shit, and I think my wife would let me
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Lol. Yeah the Han Solo song got stuck in my head yesterday.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda admire George's willingness to troll his own shit.
― DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
Aw man, every time I see someone do the "Not a Scratch" it's just the funniest thing in the universe.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
is the Dagobah bump supposed to be Vader doing something nasty to Yoda? That ain't nice!
― Moodles, Friday, 13 April 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
the best part of those videos (han solo, leia) is the player cam with the doughy, awkward dancer in the upper left corner
― diamonddave85, Friday, 13 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
I love Jabba grooving in the background of Hologram Girl.
― polyphonic, Friday, 13 April 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
this is OT but there's something really great about these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM58dJ5l9B8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRnjn0wVJgk
second one especially for "Imagine how much fun your kids will have" followed by kids listlessly humming the theme music and waving the tie-in products around in slow, half-hearted arcs.
Also just kind of stunned I've never, ever heard of Burger Chef before, despite Wikipedia's claim that it was at one time the second most popular burger chain in the US.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 14 April 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
This would have been lost on me otherwise, but you are totally otm
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Saturday, 14 April 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
more likely a version of "my heart will go on". the songs are pretty similar tho'.
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
my first thought was what the hell is/was burger chef?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 14 April 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently, it was "incrediburgible!"
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 14 April 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
Also they pioneered the whole kids-meal-with-a-toy concept (with the uninspired name of "The Fun Meal"), and a "add your own toppings" bar which sounds potentially cool. It apparently doubled as a salad bar, which would put them out ahead of Wendy's in that category I think. I love the lame, old-school anonymity of their logo figure:
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1123/1201215486_16aed540fe.jpg
...although Burger Chef and Jeff had a little more going on:
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1414/1201215552_15ae185ab4.jpg
Really seems like a different age in fast food then, wish I could take a time machine back and check it out.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 14 April 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
possibly the funniest rich asshole move I've heard of in quite some time
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
that seems cool in theory but I'm sure he'll screw it up somehow
― silverfish, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
A low-income Ewok village is the only way to go.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
I will certainly be hugely disappointed if this low-income housing isn't star wars themed in one way or another
― silverfish, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
just the idea of low-income housing in Marin is pretty hilarious.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
Gungan city. Snorkels not included.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
"We don't know yet what might be able to be developed there, but the notion of being able to explore his property and see if some beautifully designed family or senior housing can be developed there is too wonderful to pass up," said Thomas Peters, president and CEO of the foundation.
^ can't help but imagine this guy as the philip seymour hoffman character in the big lebowski
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
Two words: Ewok Centipede
― 'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
It remains to be seen whether or not the future residents of this low-income housing development will be appreciative when Lucas shows up every couple of years to do extensive renovations.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
He's not actually going to build most of the structure of these houses - they'll be mostly CGI.
― banal like anal (snoball), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
As long as there will be CGI beasties tromping around and occasionally farting or taking a dump on the floor, I'm sold.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
I so wanted to find a utility data reference in that article
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
― silverfish, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:29 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
or thx 1138 themed like so
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2009/11/bulgaria.jpg
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
He'll build awesome housing and then every 3 years will remove part of it and replace it with cgi renovations to 'enhance the living experience'
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Way to Lucas my comment, there, VG.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
He'll build awesome housing and then every 3 years will remove part of it and replace it with cgi renovations to 'enhance the living experience' NOW IN 3D!!!
― banal like anal (snoball), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
And then the kitchen you've taken semi-seriously for 30 years will start dancing around like a goofball.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
no, you can't have your old driveway back. this one is better.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost lol sorry Deric, I didn't scroll up to see new comments. I just assumed that I was otm with the funniest zing ;)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
i always envisioned it vertical like this, but we didn't have the technology when we built your house
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
It's okay! My post was all analogue effects and the wrong person shooting first and all that. It needed an upgrade.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
can't wait for redlettermedia guy to tell low income folks their foundations have rotted and their attics are full of asbestos and the water heater has a leak and and and
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
Apartment IV: A New Home
― crab lifting a goat (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
;_; DERIC YOU JERK I AM NOT GEORGE LUCAS YOU TAKE THAT BACK
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
"luuucas! luuucas!" should become a playground taunt
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
it probably was a playground taunt when that corehy haim movie lucas came out?i read somewhere that the corey haim movie lucas was about george lucas but that sounds wrong?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, was the corey haim movie about a smelly child with booger mittens?
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sorry, VG, that is about the meanest insinuation ever. I take it back. You have the utmost respect for the wishes of your fans and I've seen no indication whatsoever that you have an inflatable neck sac.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
(hug) thank you thank you oh thank you
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
heeyyyy wait a minute
re: booger mittens -- well, it had corey haim in it. actually the "lucas" chant in the end was more idolatry than taunting
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://bunkstrutts.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/old-man-lucas.gif
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/721/608/72160897_640.jpg
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder if George knows his sister is an actress?
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
holy crap @ denuded lucasface
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
i have a good story about a friend-of-a-friend dating geo. lucas. should i share it?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
YES
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
Absolutely. Is your friend-of-a-friend Linda Ronstadt?
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
no. i actually don't know if i'll remember all the story. i might leave out some of the better parts.
anyway my friend has a friend (who at the time would have been in her late 40s or early 50s... probably a bit younger than lucas was at the time). somehow through some charity ball or what have you she met george lucas, who took a fancy to her. so they set up a date.
lucas has a limo sent to her house in L.A. to pick her up. the limo drives her to a private airport. she is asked to board a small plane. the plane flies (several hours i assume) to skywalker ranch. there she is let off at lucas's private tarmac, where another picks her up and drives her to the main house, where lucas stands waiting on the patio. lucas gives her a tour of the house, and then they have dinner on the patio cooked by either lucas's private chef or a chef hired for the occasion. multi-course meal. they talk some more. they say goodnight, lucas walks her back to the tarmac, plane flies her back to private airport in LA, limo drives her back home. end of story.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
i imagined the chef was guy fieri or jar jar binks or some combination.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
i left out the pod-racing part.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
i thought that said he was waiting for her standing on the piano
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 May 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
o captain my captain
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
was there any exchanging of midiclorians
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
"I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything's soft... and smooth..." (He touches her arm.)
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
Man, I should start employing biome-themed pickup lines. Thx Anakin.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
It's cold out here. Climb into my Taun Taun.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
^ of love
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
No, I meant it literally.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
"Climb into my dead alien mammal's intestines, baby."
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
Some biizarre fanfic niche could come out of this:
"Now this is pod racing!" shouted George, where by 'pods' Lucas meant his testicles.
― banal like anal (snoball), Thursday, 10 May 2012 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
would you like to see my pink lightsaber?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 10 May 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
I'll try not to shoot first.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 10 May 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link
you came in that thing etc
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Thursday, 10 May 2012 09:59 (twelve years ago) link
this little one's not worth the effort
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
princess leia
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
If Lucas actually used any of these lines, you can bet he went Han Solo later that night.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
these are the balls you're looking for
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
remember your failure at the cave
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
The force is strong with this one *points to pink lightsaber*
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
ok guys.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
but Daaaaaaaaaaaaaad
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
"Slimy? Mudhole?"
― banal like anal (snoball), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
"I thought these things smelled bad...on the outside"
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
"I am your father"
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
lucas cgi'd the sex scenes into that anecdote later
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
it's just a matter of green wall paper, really
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
"Well, I guess you don't know everything about women yet."
― banal like anal (snoball), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
If he really likes you, you're invited back for a hot dog picnic in the arboretum
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
Apartment IV: A New Home --crab lifting a goat (weatheringdaleson)
Winner
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 May 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yRNXFhboBI&
― Number None, Saturday, 25 August 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
barf
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 August 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
couldn't watch more than a minute tbh
― Number None, Saturday, 25 August 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
Jesus.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
i'm reminded of shatner on snl, his remarks about taking a fun diversion and turning it in to a colossal waste of time.
― a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Saturday, 25 August 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
i think that looks kind of fun, actually
"its a wrap" made me lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
no.
― goole, Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
This feels like right-wing comedy (i.e. something with the vague structure of a joke for people with no discernable sense of humor).
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
No offense to your LOLs, HOOS.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
I'm so tired of all these Star Wars.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
It's funny because the Emperor is an evil, serious guy in the movies but here he's talking like he's a normal person! Funny!
No, no it's not. It's just tired.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
Quite apart from the writing, i'm pretty sure that's the ugliest animation i've ever seen
― Number None, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
this is what star wars fans asked for tbh
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
like 30 years of terrible internet memes and "haha r2d2 ovenmitts!!!" and rewarding seth macfarlane and kevin smith and seth green and jon stewart and south park for "More like on the ICE PLANET HOTH" jokes and this is what you get.
i feel sorry for anyone who's mad at this and/or didn't see it coming.
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
oh noes everyones otaku
I'd kinda like to see the critical community punk Lucas by really embracing this and encouraging him to focus his energy on more comedic projects. Just to see how nightmarish it could get.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
Happened already:
http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/65/MPW-32621
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
TBF, that dead guy's weird penis is kinda funny.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
― Bizarro Morbius (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:44 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:45 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
omg this (and the consequent utility data posts) killing me all over again right now
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
thank you, internet
It it still so, so perfect. I will treasure this thread forever for that.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
like 30 years of terrible internet memes
woah hang on there were internet memes 30 years ago?
― a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
OK, so I'm actually at Star Wars Celebration, where that clip premiered, right now (although I wasn't at that panel) (also STFU Whiney). That show is basically going to be Robot Chicken except with actual long form story lines and regular animation. It's Seth Green and his whole crew doing it.
Anyway, what I was going to say is I went to a panel this morning to discuss and preview season 5 of "The Clone Wars" animated series, with Dave Filoni and Joel Aron, the supervising director and VFX supervisor. After they talked for about 45 minutes and showed a bunch of clips, completely unscheduled, George Lucas showed up, and the entire room went absolutely apeshit. Fans may grumble a lot, and obviously this is a crowd more predisposed to react positively, but you'd have thought God Himself had walked onto that stage,
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
PS little kids fucking LOVE Star Wars, if they want to make more kiddie shows for them it's no skin off my back.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Now I'm going to go watch Dennis Muren and John Knoll talk about the 3-D conversions for the movies.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
Nice one, Phil! :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
That show is basically going to be Robot Chicken except with actual long form story lines and regular animation. It's Seth Green and his whole crew doing it.
I'm trying to think of a show pitch that I could possibly have a more viscerally-negative reaction to. Maybe, like, an educational show for toddlers hosted by The Situation.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
The secret beauty of the building meter data is "what a weird quote" from s1ocki. It's such a blank, blase acceptance of this as being plausibly related to Star Wars, however odd it might seem.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 August 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
I actually liked Robot Chicken, it was good for LOLz. But yeah they've been doing that schtick for like 7 years now. Most of the impact of the 'jokes' on that show was how sort of fresh it was to see Star Wars taken out of its usual melodramatic context. Nowadays there are a zillion commercials of Yoda saying something about soft drinks and the brand of Star Wars as self-knowing parody is over-saturated.
Maybe these things are actually funny, there's no way for me to objectively tell anymore because I've experienced over 10 years of Adult Swim-style Serious Sci-Fi Character Says Something About His Laundry. It's not something you just see on late night stoner TV programming. It's ubiquitous. SW humor needs to bring something else to the table to make it stand out.
For a while it was simply that nobody had done SW humor much, so that was enough. Now, I sort of actively hate these people. They are building 'comedy' careers out of writing things that require zero wit and humor. One could write a season's worth of this show in an afternoon, not even trying. Just find an iconic moment:
1) plug in a different pop-culture reference2) have a character break his character and complain about something for a few seconds3) invoke the awkward silence
Little kids will love this stuff, and good for them, they love the prequels too. Lucas was right when he said SW is made for little kids because even if it wasn't in the 70s, it's become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is now.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
this is 85% of Adult Swim programming since Space Ghost
― jjjdoom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
Which is why it annoys me so much! Space Ghost is almost 20 years old!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
I believe you're thinking of the Strawman Network.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
star wars jokes were starting to seam really fucking haggard 20 years ago, long before robot chicken was even a gleam in seth green's eye
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
one of my unused thread ideas i've been kicking around for years and years was "people with careers in comedy that were built at least partially on star wars references/parodies"
― 7 years of pussy for prison riot (some dude), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
― jjjdoom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:17 AM (6 minutes ago)
i think that's true to some degree, but it can be done well or poorly. venture bros. at it's best made the formulaic geek-joke stuff work by writing decent characters, coming up with interesting ideas and actually being sort of funny. robot chicken is the nadir of the approach. zero attention to anything but dumb non sequiturs and gross-out gags.
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
the writers on Venture Bros have said they consciously try to use as few Star Wars references as possible, but there are still a good amount in there, amid all the other references
― 7 years of pussy for prison riot (some dude), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah i mean it can be done well. It's just, when that is the ENTIRETY of the content, then what you are viewing is pretty much hack-work.
I was about to write off Seth Green for exploiting this formula and internet nerd humor but i looked at his wikipedia entry and forgot he has a pretty extensive career. Good for him for being in the right place at the right time to capitalize on this stuff.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
The funniest SW humor is the Rifftrax for the Holiday Special.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
I think the funniest SW humor would be a documentary wherein someone goes to a convention and arrogantly recounts his favorite elements of the Star Wars universe with superfans and constantly gets little details wrong. Like calling that trash can thing R2-B2.
― Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
beedy beedy beedy
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol barf pucus
sp.
Obi-Wan: There was nothing you could have done, Luke, had you been there. You'd have been killed too, and the droids would now be in the hands of the Empire.Luke: I want to come with you to Alderaan. There's nothing for me here now. I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father. Obi-Wan: Why yes, yes......that's a great idea. Let's do that...
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Should we start a separate 'the crimes of george lucas's fans' thread?
http://io9.com/5950943/church-lawn-display-sees-luke-skywalker-accepting-jesus-rejecting-darth-vader
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
from camille paglia thread:
(she proclaims “Star Wars” creator George Lucas our greatest living artist)― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:20 PM (29 minutes ago)
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, October 11, 2012 6:20 PM (29 minutes ago)
somehow i feel this ought to count for this thread.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
No, sorry, that church display is ten times better and more realistic than anything released by Lucasfilm in the past 15 years.
― pplains, Thursday, 11 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, as much as I disagree with the sentiment, that display is pretty amazing.
― Moodles, Thursday, 11 October 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
Makes ya really start to ponder Are the people in the Star Wars movies humans?
― pplains, Thursday, 11 October 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
Disney buys Lucasfilm, says Episode 7 will arrive in 2015.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
$4B in cash & stock
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
had a genuine gut feeling of NOT AGAIN!!! just now
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
"...as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced fuck this bullshit!"
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
Press release here: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20121030006384/en/Disney-Acquire-Lucasfilm-Ltd.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
"It's now time for me to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers."
please happen
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
and he was just swearing no more SW movies, by him or anyone else, when Red Tails was released 9 friggin months ago
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
don't see how McG's Star Wars can miss really
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
They should use that press release as the opening crawl for Star Wars Episode VII: Don't Bother.
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
Hope Peter Jackson really delves into the Gungan conflict
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
maybe he can finally convince d. lynch to take a crack
― charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
NOTHING REGARDING UTILITY DATA WTF
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
Star Wars 7 shd just be 2 and a half hours of footage of costumed dorks queueing for the last shitshow
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
They should try and get Tom Six, and make Episode VII: Gungan Centipede.
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
He was probably saying that to get Disney to up their price.
― Sug ban (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:13 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this happened, it was called Fanboys
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
can't make it any worse. go for it, disney. knock yourselves out.
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
i assumed this was fake news, but, it isn't
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
I just can't even imagine for a moment what they'd pursue as storylines for Episodes 7-9. Not even the Expanded Universe stuff would be in play here, because that all includes the original cast.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
OTOH Joss Whedon is the golden boy for Disney/Marvel, maybe they'll let him play with it.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
okay, but what about the movie?
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
So now Disney owns Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm!?!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
pssh, they didn't say 7-9, they said feature films
maybe more animation at first?
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Pixar revitalized Disney
Pixar started as a Lucasfilm offshoot that was sold
Marvel published Star Wars comics in the late 70s
o_O
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Outside guess: they turn it over to the Clone Wars TV series folks to run with.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Dude it's right in the subhead: STAR WARS: EPISODE 7 feature film targeted for release in 2015.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
I will say that Clone Wars supervising producer Dave Filoni LOVES the SW universe and knows it better than pretty much anyone. Maybe he will be the guy, who knows?
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
meh
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
Thrawn Trilogy plz
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
I hope we finally get to find out what Palpatine was like when he was a little boy
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Related note -- this also means Disney gets Indiana Jones.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
I hope they bring back Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, call it Indiana Jones: Wild Ride, and just paint all the walls to be Indiana Jones scenes and make Mr. Toad's car into a mining cart
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Well there's already the Indiana Jones ride, so.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
So, what, Raggett? With thoughts like that we'll never see the return of cheap old-style rides like Mr. Toad
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha but the kids these days with their lasers and their hula hoops and
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
― how's life, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:22 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
who should get do this and who will?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
somebody good, morons
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
I nominate goole
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be Jar Jar's Magic Ride and we'll all weep.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
Jar Jar's Song of the Gungans
Mr. Watto's on shoulder
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Issa True!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
This is a good thing. #1: reduces george lucas's ability to do any more damage, #2: odds of proper DVD release of ORIGINAL THEATRICAL STAR WARS go up immensely, #3: horrible anonymous disney sequels actually DILUTE impact of the prequels, substantially eroding their seeming claim to be an integral piece of the saga...they instead get lumped together with the other postmillenial Shitty Star Warses. And maybe the design work for the new spaceships and robots and monsters won't suck so bad.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
I can't hide the fact that part of me is kind of excited about this. I could see a possible way of this possibly ending up leading to a good Star Wars movie. This part of my brain left over from when I was 12 is really not good at having rational expectations.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
If this interferes with John Carter 2 I am gonna rage
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcq5nuGrpW1qza3e8o1_500.jpg
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
they... closed Mr Toad's Wild Ride?????
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
Actually I was wondering about that, I thought it was open last time I checked!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
I was thinking they did, maybe just in Disney World? I might be wrong completely.
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
It was open at Disneyland when I went in April. It is closed at Magic Kingdom.
It's funny, I'm only realizing now that the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland really is just like Mr. Toad on insane-o steroids.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/mr-toads-wild-ride/
boom
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
on the positive side, lucas can buy some new shirts
― 炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
A friend has posited this could mean Ewoks running around the theme parks now. Perhaps if they let people kick them...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.laughingplace.com/files/ToadEvening/toadportrait.jpg http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTA0Mjc0NzExNzBeQTJeQWpwZ15BbWU3MDEzMzQ3MDI@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
my gf went to school with the kid whose dad designed jar-jar binks!
his lot was not enviable.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp to polyphonic there's no way they do the Thrawn trilogy, and have to re-cast Han, Luke and Leia.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Kind of expecting something set further forward in the future but MAYBE with Hamill and Fisher making cameos as wise old Jedi, to legitimize the handover a la Nimoy in the Star Trek reboot.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VUqq51FmwZA/T587azgoLII/AAAAAAAAGUw/YI2IBvPN6ZY/s1600/JarJarBinksTongue.jpg
NEVER FORGET
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
This is a good thing. #1: reduces george lucas's ability to do any more damage
U & K
― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
lol xp
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
It's so hard to think of a good director/writer for this.
― musicfanatic, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 08:39 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what in galloping shit is that
― 炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
Is Irvin Kershner still alive?
― musicfanatic, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
xp: it is the world's worst promotional tie-in product ever; a giant lollipop shaped like a tongue in a case shaped like Jar-Jar's head with a plunger on the back you have to push in to make it open, meaning that eating the lollipop requires french-kissing a Jar-Jar Binks toy
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
I have a still-unopened one of these buried somewhere in a pile of junk in my house, because when I saw that thing it was just too hilarious for me not to purchase it
i'd like to see Matthew Barney given a shot at the next one
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
he passed a few years back. xps
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
good luck disney
― 炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
I am still of the opinion that The Phantom Menace was worth it solely for the existence of that lollipop
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
I was already aware about that JJB tongue lolly ]thing, but until I saw that particular picture I didn't know it was so textured. Wouldn't that make it uncomfortable to eat? I mean, more uncomfortable to eat than it already is?
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:58 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yessss
― d-_-b (mh), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
Q: how many of these were bought by adults for the sole intention of sticking them in orifices other than their mouths?
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
This news is GOOD NEWS! GL should have done this after "Empire Strikes Back" imho. Bring on the Disney Star Wars.
And in the event of a nu-Jar Jar, Disney will at least have the good taste not to come up with something quite so repulsive.
Jar-Jar lollipop #1 most questionable marketing tie-in ever
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
xp: congratulations that is the worst question in the world
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
A: at least one i know of
― charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
Mr. Toad was no more when I was at D.World a month ago. But of course, "Star Tours" has been at Epcot for eons.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
worst birthday ever, btw
Maybe they will make Pirates of the Carribean 5: The Secret of Monkey Island.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
The full head rubber Batman mask sold at the time of Batman Returns might come close.
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTLX6o041Gr0EGSA3AFb9K7Rw3GXEPqP3AkxfvwTceU4S7ONVq7sA
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
NO WAY LOLOLOLOL
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
actually that was the worst birthday ever
― charlie the luna (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
Holy crap
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Wasn't there a vibrating Harry Potter broomstick?
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
Turn on your flesh heart light.
― Sug ban (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgpA5y8ytz8
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
"NO! Bad Rad Repeatin' Tarzan!"
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
I had one of those ET finger lights and my parents thought it was hilarious
― plastic tub of ac adapters (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
How, er, big was it?
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
(because it looks massive in that picture)
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
easy buddy, i don't think they're available anymore
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
>baby's arm
― this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway I think it's great that Disney owns a property featuring a lead character killing a bunch of kids and later cutting his son's arm off.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
ned, don't forget that disney owns touchstone which released all manner of violent films. they also own ABC. and marvel. so they are hardly strangers to such things.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
they also own pulp fiction and jackie brown.
Both of which regularly feature in the theme parks!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
xp Christopher Walken: "Five long years, he wore this ET Finger Light up his ass. Then when he died of dysentery, he gave me the light. I hid this uncomfortable piece of plastic up my ass for two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, I give the finger to you."
― ILX until I die (snoball), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rTakQ9mqo
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
I hope they clear house at Lucasarts and start making non-SW games again
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
Surely this clears the path for a blu-ray release of Howard the Duck?
― Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
surely we're long overdue for a howard/star wars crossover?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
howard/willow xover
― plastic tub of ac adapters (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
in old-time radio format
― plastic tub of ac adapters (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
The prequels were basically Disney movies anyway so nbd.
Maniac Mansion film now, plz.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
if only they were a 1/100th as good as disney movies
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
There already was a Maniac Mansion film, it was called "The People Under The Stairs"
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
There was already a Maniac Mansion _series_, which inexplicably starred Joe Flaherty
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
!!! Somehow I had never heard of this before. OMG. And it got to 66 episodes?!
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, I know. Note: the movie should not be an adaptation of the series.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not yet, but i'm assured that the S&M dungeon from pulp fiction will soon be turned into a ride at disney world.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 07:15 (eleven years ago) link
Surely this clears the path for a blu-ray release of Howard the Duck?― Vernon Locke, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Vernon Locke, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh man, while we're talking complete nonsense, maybe they'll put out a remastered soundtrack too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKifnayS1_I
― how's life, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link
Do not make the mistake of watching Maniac Mansion, the series
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
But Time Magazine named it one of the best shows of 1990!
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
it was actually their man of the year that year
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
It introduced the world to Kathleen Robertson, so there's that.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
lol she is the most ubiquitous anonymous actress
I see her everywhere and think "oh yeah, her" but never remember her name
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
Jane Siberry sang the theme song which hooked my teenage self but no it is not good
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/29428_10151085014246370_358478599_n.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
harf
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
so disney gets industrial light & magic then eh... that's pretty crazy... do they get skywalker ranch too?
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
Presumably. Skywalker Sound, the Presidio complex in SF itself...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
what about the scary darth vader head with luke's face inside?
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
That belongs to the nightmares of all the children of the world.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcrivuSG1a1qd39tro1_500.jpg
It's so funny to me that there are people that think this way.
― Sug ban (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
that... isn't deeply sarcastic?
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
dear god
If it's from the blog I'm thinking of, relentlessly unsarcastic.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
i thought it was sarcastic and nicole was referring to the people being made fun of in the cartoon and not the cartoon itself
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
or that the character himself was being sarcastic and nicole was referring to the people the character was making fun of
so many readings, it really is a rich text
much like Star Wars itself
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
― goole, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V7aLV5mO6ns/TPLnToEqMtI/AAAAAAAABLE/uW1gihEeytU/s400/dude.jpg
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
The strip typically makes fun of the dumb or goofy things people say in comic book stores, so yeah.
― Sug ban (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
That's the way I was taking it -- I have no doubt someone came in and said exactly that in all earnestness.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
Man oh man oh man! I just can't believe Episode 7 in 3 years!!!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not being sarcastic, i am genuinely excited.
(I am too.)
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
I could get behind something that didn't mention Anakin once.
― how's life, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe they'll adapt the "Legacy" comic, which takes place more than 100 years in the future of the SW universe, involves a descendant of Luke's who is not a Jedi, and the only OG character that appears is Luke, in the form of a ghost.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
what if it mentions Anakin 500 times
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
500 Anakins (of Summer)
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Feature-length Genndy Tartakovsky = I would go see that, yes please, now please.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
I really hope it's made by people who only have a passing familiarity with the original series.
EXT. INDIANA DUNES STATE PARK
A platoon of Darth Vaders comb the sand with metal detectors as the evil warlord C3PO wanders through their ranks, whipping them with that laser sword thing.
C3POFaster, minions! We must find the Force before Jabba The Hug arrives in the Death Star!
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
That's Spaceballs, isn't it?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
io9.com goes into overdrive
http://updates.io9.com/post/34698824522/what-we-want-from-a-new-star-wars-trilogy
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Maniac mansion was awesome -- basically sctv in sitcom format.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder how many trilogies/franchises have been made now with a guarantee of producing all three movies (or more than one or whatever), as opposed to waiting to see if the first one makes money before moving forward, besides the SW prequels, these new sequels, and LOTR/The Hobbit
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Twilight (okay, they could all have completely flopped, but so could LOTR)
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
LOL @ goole
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
if i were a devious studio head i would simply commission one looong movie (versus 3 movies) with the budget appropriately slashed, then cut it into 3 movies in the editing room.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
You mean The Hobbit gambit.
― Sug ban (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
Worst Ludlum book.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
The Bilbo Ultimatum
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
The Saruman Weekend
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
real talk guys even thinking about star wars anymore just makes me tired and a little sad
― goole, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
I watch the Clone Wars animated series religiously every week so you just shut up.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to lol at Phil but I watch Green Lantern and Young Justice so
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
For a "kid's show" Clone Wars has a super-high body count. The most recent episode, among all the war deaths, also included an unarmed person being shot point-blank in the head and the episode's hero being dropped off a cliff so we could see her dead body at the base.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
I saw an episode last season that involved a town getting razed and raped, was taken aback
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
Can't wait for that ride oh wait.
Anyway, wasting no time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbH1SEsqiE
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunately, LucasArts' classic game catalog is even more likely to be seen as a drop-in-the-bucket for a major international conglomerate like Disney than it was for a struggling independent publishing house like LucasArts. Disney will more than likely continue to sit on these properties, treating them with the same kind of benign neglect fans have been used to for decades, sometimes to the chagrin of their creators. "Dear Disney: I would like to buy the IP for a game I created called Monkey Island from you," series progenitor Ron Gilbert cheekily tweeted yesterday. "P.S. I have no money."
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/10/what-does-the-disney-buyout-mean-for-lucasarts-gaming-catalog/
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
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2nd Hunger Games and Twilight movies didn't get the green light til the first ones made big box office, but apparently production on the 2nd Potter movie began the same week the first one was out so i guess that was a done deal.
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure the harry potter IP was much more popular than those other 2 before their respective first movies
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
As noted by The AV Club in a story today, it will be exceedingly weird to think about a Star Wars feature film not preceded by the 20th Century Fox fanfare.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a little frightened about what Lucas is going to do with all that money. what project did he need to finance that he couldn't have done with his prior fortune?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/star-wars-7-8-and-9-are-most-exciting-says-george-lucas-biographer-exclusive-63006
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
For everyone expecting a release of the original and untouched trilogy anytime soon, I've been waiting for the last two seasons of The Muppet Show on DVD forrrrrr...four years now? Disney ain't in no hurry.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
misread that and had this horrible, confused vision of george lucas wreaking CGI havoc on 'the great muppet caper.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
wait I thought there was a complete set of the Muppet Show on DVD at some point
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
Dude's cool.
― 45 DOWN: "NYPD Blue" actor ____ Morales (R Baez), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
I've been waiting for the last two seasons of The Muppet Show on DVD forrrrrr...four years now? Disney ain't in no hurry.
note their active butchery of the latter Roger Langridge comics
― sug night (sic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
very happy to hear about where all that money's going, because honestly i don't give a shit what happens to anything Star Wars ever
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
it's going to jedi montessori training
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 November 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
Psyched for all the personal, low-budget, avant-garde films Lucas is gonna make now
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 November 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
THX-1136 prequel coming right up
― Moodles, Thursday, 1 November 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/500986152_5snvJ-L-2.jpg
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 1 November 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link
we learned george lucas was cool when his response to his rich neighbors' refusal to let him ruin their Tranquility by building a production studio on his land was to donate it to a nonprofit to build low-income housing on
that said i know this is naive but i read that breathlessly speculating io9 article and was genuinely taken aback that anyone, anyone, could want more goddamn motherfucking star wars movies
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 November 2012 07:14 (eleven years ago) link
It's funny to see the history of Star Wars constantly get rewritten. In the past year or so it's gone from "Darth Vader's story was the entire thing" to "Oh yeah, it was going to be 12 episodes and 7-9 is WHERE IT REALLY GETS GOOD"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
In the long run it's been the other way around - for a long time there was talk of a nine-episode trilogy of trilogies, and then around the time stuff was gearing up for Episode I it switched to "oh no just these and we're probably done".
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
yeah thats how i remember it too. and even when i was a kid the idea of a prequel trilogy bored me, i wanted to see what happened after ROTJ
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
"I've never had much personal interest in filmmaking or storytelling. My life's dream was to spend 35 years building a profitable brand to sell to the Disney Company and to donate the profits to education."
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
Mark Hamill:
“Oh my gosh, what a shock that was! I had no idea that George was going to sell to Disney until I read it online like everybody else. He did tell us last summer about wanting to go on and do [Episodes] VII, VIII, and IX, and that [newly appointed Lucasfilm president] Kathleen Kennedy would be doing them… Yeah, last August, he asked Carrie and I to have lunch with him and we did. I thought he was going to talk about either his retirement or the Star Wars TV series that I’ve heard about… So when he said, “We decided we’re going to do Episodes VII, VIII, and IX,” I was just gobsmacked. “What? Are you nuts?!” [Laughs] . . . “I can see both sides of it. Because in a way, there was a beginning, a middle, and an end and we all lived happily ever after and that’s the way it should be — and it’s great that people have fond memories, if they do have fond memories. But on the other hand, there’s this ravenous desire on the part of the true believers to have more and more and more material. It’s one of those things: people either just don’t care for it or are passionate about it. I guess that defines what cult movies are all about…”
. . . “I can see both sides of it. Because in a way, there was a beginning, a middle, and an end and we all lived happily ever after and that’s the way it should be — and it’s great that people have fond memories, if they do have fond memories. But on the other hand, there’s this ravenous desire on the part of the true believers to have more and more and more material. It’s one of those things: people either just don’t care for it or are passionate about it. I guess that defines what cult movies are all about…”
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
they should get him to play The Joker in the new movies
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
When I went to Star Wars Celebration in August and went to see Mark Hamill's talk, he did this monologue and people went nuts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld0uIhst3TA
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
And Harrison Ford as Dr. Richard Kimble xp
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Hey, it's on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YLeVe6MIQM
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/muppets_sw.jpg
― ILX until I die (snoball), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
(now that Disney own both, they can remaster all 6 existing SW films with CGI Muppets)
― ILX until I die (snoball), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
I'd watch that
― Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Sam the Eagle 4 Hayden straight swap.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
sam eagle for vader surely
― pronounced darraghmac (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ C-Beaker-0
― a worthy pioner! (weatheringdaleson), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
Andrew O'Hehir is of 2 minds
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/31/disneys_4_billion_lucas_deal_good_idea_bad_omen/
I thought I read that ILM was not in the deal?
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
no, but they threw in De Subjectivisten to make up for it
― let's keep this board about feet, please. (latebloomer), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
ILM is in the deal
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
pardon if I missed this, but is GL's participation in the next 3 films limited to story treatments?
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
i think he stated himself that they would be handed to kathleen kennedy.
― wmlynch, Friday, 2 November 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think what I read is that he's staying on as a consultant, whatever that means
― silverfish, Friday, 2 November 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
it means approx. dick most likely
― Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Friday, 2 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
people either just don’t care for it or are passionate about it. I guess that defines what cult movies are all about…”
it is truly weird to think of star wars as a cult movie. i sort of take his point, but i also feel that describing it that way sort of devalues the very notion of a cult movie.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
was it a cult movie when it came out? i can't imagine richard nixon giving a shit about it, but by reagan's term maybe it's conquered the normals?
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
i can't tell if you're serious or not, but fyi star wars was one of the most commercially successful movies ever released
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
Star Wars debuted on Wednesday, May 25, 1977, in 32 theaters, and eight more on Thursday and Friday. It immediately broke box-office records, effectively becoming one of the first blockbuster films, and Fox accelerated plans to broaden its release.[54] Lucas spent most of the day in a sound studio in Los Angeles. When he went out for lunch with his then-wife Marcia, they encountered a long queue of people along the sidewalks leading to Mann's Chinese Theatre, waiting to see Star Wars.[38] Even technical crew members, such as model makers, were asked for autographs, and cast members became instant household names.[5]Star Wars remains one of the most financially successful films of all time. The film earned $1,554,475 through its opening weekend ($5.96 million in today's terms), building up to $7 million weekends as it entered wide release ($26.8 million in today's terms).[2] It replaced Jaws as the highest-earning film in North America just six months into release,[75] eventually earning over $220 million during its initial theatrical run ($844 million in today's terms).[76] Star Wars entered international release towards the end of the year, and in 1978 added the worldwide record to its domestic one,[77] earning $410 million in total.[78] Reissues in 1978, 1979, 1981, and 1982 brought its cumulative gross in Canada and the U.S. to $323 million,[79] and extended its global earnings to $530 million.[80] The film remained the highest-grossing film of all time until E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial broke that record in 1983.[81]
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekly&id=starwars4.htm
― Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
Internet calculator tells me that, adjusted for inflation, it made 1.34 billion in today's dollars in its initial theatrical run (combined domestic & international). That's just in ticket sales. Obviously there were several more mints to be made on the merchandising.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
yah but wasn't it just 12 nerds seeing it over and over again? did normal people care about it?
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 3 November 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
the big deal about star wars was that it WASN'T just a cult thing that only nerds cared about. compare it to star trek, which had middling ratings, was cancelled after three seasons, and only got its 'comeback' after lucas suddenly made SF profitable.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
star wars is a cult movie in the same way that mormonism is a cult
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
widespread, profitable, special underwear
― Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
J.D. otm.
We live in a strange time where the definitions of what is nerdy and what is cult are changing and distorting and kind of becoming more and more meaningless. 'Nerds' are just another demographic these days, as plugged into the mainstream as anyone else. And they have no idea how good they have it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
the demographic of any 'nerdy' blockbuster movie isn't very nerdy anymore, but i wonder if that was ever the case w/ Star Wars either. don't think it's possible to make that much money w/ just nerds, no matter how many times they see it.
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
It also probably created a few million nerds, no? People who went because they heard it was hot, got into it, saw it again, saw the next few sci-fi movies that came out, suddenly realized they were going to the SF bookstore for monthly events...
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
Star Wars sounds like it was just some incredible freak accident where GL won the lottery x 1000.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
I'm just going by this 70s show but on the show eric is the only one who is seriously into star wars, and everyone else just tolerates it.there's a spongebob joke that titanic was star wars for girls, and i remember titanic similarly being adored by a core audience and merely tolerated by everyone else.
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
The question of is it cult or not has nothing to do with numbers but everything to do with the level of intense scrutiny and obsession it inspired.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
it was never the case w/ star wars and tbh i think star wars nerds in general had a pretty low profile until the 90s whereas w/ star trek they were obv high profile being the reason the damn thing was revived. curious how aware of trekkies ppl were in the 60s - would ppl have been aware of them as a thing or were they just lumped in w/ general sci-fi nerds? obv there was enough awareness of that market for something like this to exist - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/01_MFOS_cover.jpg but it seems like ppl learning klingon and whatever comes later right? like in 1967 being a star trek fan is not that different from being a lost in space fan but by 1976 it's very different? in any case i can remember in 92 the movie theater at the local university was going to show all three of them in a marathon and it was announced that the films were being taken out of circulation for some reason (tbf the prints were beat to shit) so a friend and i went and there was a guy there dressed as admiral ackbar and the reaction wasn't 'o great, a dude dressed as admiral ackbar' it was 'wow, that dude came dressed as admiral ackbar! where the fuck did he find that mask?'. obv we were aware there were ppl that were REALLY into star wars but it didn't define the experience or whatever, it's like knowing there are ppl that are REALLY into back to the future or ghostbusters or whatever. whereas by 99 when phantom menace came out it was understood that of course there were ppl dressed up as darth maul or whatever. personal perspective only but seems to be a correlation between when star wars movies became strictly a geek thing in the culture and when star wars movies became the kind of thing only star wars geeks could care about. of course it may just be passage of time - really enjoying star wars in 77 (real time reaction to four quadrant blockbuster) vs really enjoying star wars in 97 (heavy nostalgia) vs really enjoying star wars in 2012 (ok really).
― balls, Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
plus kael going gaga for star wars, star wars getting a best pic nod.
― balls, Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
I remember an episode of ALF about asparagus so I guess it was probably the most popular vegetable of the 80s basically
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 November 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
spongebob joke that titanic was star wars for girls
Which episode of spongebob?
― how's life, Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link
going to the theatrical re-releases of the o.g. trilogy in '97 were definitely my first experience waiting in line for a movie w/ people dressed up as characters
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
there's a spongebob joke that titanic was star wars for girls,
Ha, this is a nice example of the voice actor's work bleeding over into the writing. Tom Kenny wrote this bit after the movie came out; I remember him doing it on a Comedy Central special back when he still did stand-up in 1998
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Saturday, 3 November 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Also, I think a big difference between then and now is that nerd/geek culture took over pop culture in the last 10 years
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Saturday, 3 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Yes there has been a fundamental shift. The same vapid teenage bimbo or jock that would hassle someone for being into computers 20 years ago now carries one around with them everywhere they go, obsessively indulging their own interests (the social game, fantasy football, etc). Add to that unscrupulous marketing and suddenly 'nerd' more or less a catch-all for any IP from the 80's geared towards males. Since internet critics can all quote a line from Back to the Future it's a 'nerd property'. Nostalgia and pop culture referencing plus smart phones blah blah i think there is alot one could talk about the shift but yeah it more or less comes down to "2001: The Year Nerd Broke"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
sorry yes it was a tom kenny bit, not spongebob. but yeah titanic the biggest movie in the world can still be a cult movie.
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 3 November 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
are people seriously saying this is a cult film?? was there ever a bigger film on release?
― piscesx, Saturday, 3 November 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think it could be classified as "HEAVILY devoted following" without just niche/tiny appeal. Most cult movies have both; these only have the one.
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Saturday, 3 November 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
see also "Big Lebowski". Not niche, but there's a cult for it
There's a cult for everything tho, that can't make it a cult movie - you'd need other things, including the absence of an entire episode of the OG Muppet Show devoted to it, that'd help.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
'Cult' these days meaning 'hardcore built-in demographic'.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, fuck that. There was no hardcore built-in demographic for Repo Man. Or for Star Wars, for that matter.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
I have to say I'm enjoying the current cult election!
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
(That said, I could totally imagine someone describing Avatar as a cult movie in 20 years, if James Cameron dropped dead today)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
would be fun to see a 1982 theater audience for Tron vs. a 2010 theater audience for Tron: Legacy
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
What im saying is there are two definitions of 'cult' and two definitions of 'nerd', and the 2ks is when both "broke" and the meanings changed. Most of this has to do with the internet and smart phones. Cult may have once meant something like a sleeper hit but with the internet nowadays it's pretty much impossible for anything to slowly grow a dedicated fanbase like that. Repo Man is a genuinely awesome movie but maybe if it came out in the internet era we would all be so sick of Repo Man Twitter/Tumbler/FB/animated GIFs/etc. that it's status as a cult movie may be in question. It's sort of impossible to conjecture tho since Repo Man helped create the idea of a cult film.
Politics has lots of cultish aspects to it (tribalism, obsessive combing over details, etc) but I think an object of cult affection sort of has to be largely a fictional creation. Not that there isn't plenty of fiction in politics....
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Has anyone written any good articles about the death of nerd culture?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
getting flashbacks of this thread: EW 25 best cult tv shows from the past 25 years
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
adam you misspelled "dearth"
lol i didn't think that through, doesn't really work
star wars is like the most popular movie ever made
i think that takes it out of the running for 'cult.'
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
wasn't there a living colour song 'cult of popularity'?
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
...
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/1/15111/29_2008/megnafox.preview.jpg
Guess i'll read this, though I don't really like Patton Oswalt:http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/12/ff_angrynerd_geekculture/
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
That’s when we’ll reach Etewaf singularity. Pop culture will become self-aware. It will happen in the A.V. Club first
hm.
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
there's a wolf eyes interview from like a decade ago where they go, fuck these fake people who think that downloading every single punk album from 1976-1978 makes them an expert on punk, that is not how you become an expert on punk, fuck the internet
i. this is an entirely valid way of becoming an expert on punkii. only seven people in the world actually ever did this
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
there's some dum stuff in that oswalt piece but i liked this part:
When everyone has easy access to their favorite diversions and every diversion comes with a rabbit hole’s worth of extra features and deleted scenes and hidden hacks to tumble down and never emerge from, then we’re all just adding to an ever-swelling, soon-to-erupt volcano of trivia, re-contextualized and forever rebooted. We’re on the brink of Etewaf: Everything That Ever Was—Available Forever.
I know it sounds great, but there’s a danger: Everything we have today that’s cool comes from someone wanting more of something they loved in the past. Action figures, videogames, superhero movies, iPods: All are continuations of a love that wanted more. Ever see action figures from the ’70s, each with that same generic Anson Williams body and one-piece costume with the big clumsy snap on the back? Or played Atari’s Adventure, found the secret room, and thought, that’s it? Can we all admit the final battle in Superman II looks like a local commercial for a personal-injury attorney? And how many people had their cassette of the Repo Man soundtrack eaten by a Walkman?
Now, with everyone more or less otaku and everything immediately awesome (or, if not, just as immediately rebooted or recut as a hilarious YouTube or Funny or Die spoof), the old inner longing for more or better that made our present pop culture so amazing is dwindling. The Onion‘s A.V. Club—essential and transcendent in so many ways—has a weekly feature called Gateways to Geekery, in which an entire artistic subculture—say, anime, H. P. Lovecraft, or the Marx Brothers—is mapped out so you can become otaku on it but avoid its more tedious aspects.
Here’s the danger: That creates weak otakus. Etewaf doesn’t produce a new generation of artists—just an army of sated consumers. Why create anything new when there’s a mountain of freshly excavated pop culture to recut, repurpose, and manipulate on your iMovie? The Shining can be remade into a comedy trailer. Both movie versions of the Joker can be sent to battle each another. The Dude is in The Matrix.
The coming decades—the 21st-century’s ’20s, ’30s, and ’40s—have the potential to be one long, unbroken, recut spoof in which everything in Avatar farts while Keyboard Cat plays eerily in the background.
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
" -- Christopher Weingarten is the senior editor for SPIN and former drummer for Gay Dad."
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
ii. only seven people in the world actually ever did this
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:59 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark
so many people did this, man... i bet some of them post on ILM too
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah everyone does that. And being an expert on 'punk' is pretty much as meaningless a thing as being an expert on baseball stats, only with the added dimension of preening social coolness. And that dimension seems to be what the new generation is being trained to be experts at. Now you can take photos of your punk costume the minute you design one and get instant feedback from all of your friends, even the ones you secretly think are WAY cool and more punk than you.
The Oswalt thing was OK until it completely degenerated into pop culture soup. Has anyone written intelligently on the subject? There's emotional significance, social ostracism, technological superiority, etc. so many dimensions that are ignored in essays like this in favor of "I was into Star Wars before it was cool".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
I'd like to read one "Death of Nerd Culture" article that mentions there was a point in time where everyone didn't walk around with internet-connected computers all the time.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
that was kind of the point of the oswalt one?
― some dude, Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
Too many pop culture references, not enough actual original content in the article. Which is ironic cos yeah i felt like THAT was the main point.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
The Onion‘s A.V. Club—essential and transcendent in so many ways—has a weekly feature called Gateways to Geekery, in which an entire artistic subculture—say, anime, H. P. Lovecraft, or the Marx Brothers—is mapped out so you can become otaku on it but avoid its more tedious aspects.
I'm a total H.P. Lovecraft geek, and aside from the Re-Animator movies, AFAIK there are no other aspects of it that are not exceedingly tedious.
There will be no death of nerd culture... nerds are de facto culturally contrarian, so as soon as something obtains pop-culture cache they become bored by it and move on to something more obscure. Early-model electronic typewriters aren't considered cool yet, are they? I'm currently trying to break into that fandom...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
who really gives a shit if someone who isnt a REAL expert on punk thinks he's an expert on punk because argh why am i even typing this.
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 November 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link
Can't fake the punk on a nasty dunk, haven't you heard?
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Sunday, 4 November 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
ok, who are these tedious marx bros fans out there because i want to join them
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 4 November 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link
Dr. Morbius
― Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Sunday, 4 November 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
I thought we left punker-than-thou shit in the '90s
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Sunday, 4 November 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
Duck Soup clearly the best one, but the lack of a musical segment prevents it from being my absolute favorite. The "We're going to war" thing doesnt count, you gotta have Harpo playing a harp and Chico playing the piano in it SOMEWHERE dammit!
I wonder if there are "The Big Store" or "Night in Casablanca" apologists out there. I imagine a tedious Marx Bros. fan would be "it was all downhill once they started making movies!" and just focus on eyewitness reports of their stage show.
Yeah count me in too!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
big store has my favorite moment in movies
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
chico and groucho are demonstrating a camera to a female lead
"just look at me and pretend to laugh""i've been doing that for thirty years"
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
I imagine a tedious Marx Bros. fan would be "it was all downhill once they started making movies!" and just focus on eyewitness reports of their stage show.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
i have read the scripts of the lost radio show 'flywheel, shyster, and flywheel'
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
Early-model electronic typewriters aren't considered cool yet, are they? I'm currently trying to break into that fandom...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Saturday, November 3, 2012 11:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
have seen early model word processors with big signs on them saying SOLD AS DECOR in wannabe stores in london so er
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
i think the whole 'nerd culture IS the culture now' thing is misplaced or fails to articulate the actual change
like re: balls' thing upthread the difference is that now people know that there is a community of people, somewhere, with admiral ackbar masks (though this community would probably overestimate what proportion of the wider community knows about the existence of the community that owns admiral ackbar masks)
but i think the extent of the changes in consumption patterns and the cultural effect of same is regularly overstated -- of the community of people who are occasional or frequent watchers of the show 'two and a half men', the subset who are 'members of the two and a half men fandom'
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
is pretty small.
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
we prefer to be called twopointfiveans
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
big bang theory is now the most popular sitcom in america, even more than two and a half men. i don't know what that says about nerds or nerd culture though. urkel was bigger than jesus once..
― let's keep this board about feet, please. (latebloomer), Sunday, 4 November 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mQD_Wd6Ajo
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 4 November 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
Biggest annoyance for me is the tendency to rate anything marketed to male children in the 80s as nerdy. It is nostalgic or retro, it is NOT nerdy. Ninjas are not nerdy, Chuck Norris is not nerdy, Ghostubsters is not nerdy, etc. Yes people can quote "Predator" but you know, that was a film popular with both the nerd that collected Star Wars figures and the jock that beat him up. Zombies are not nerdy, b-movies and grindhouse stuff was not the sole domain of horror film fans but also an entire generation of highly sociable dudes and dudettes that took their dates to an age-appropriate makeout place.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 November 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
I think that's spot-on, the tricky thing is figuring out whether there is some blanket nerdiness associated with being in 2012 and deciding, of things to do with your present-day date/friends, to watch a zombie movie from the 80s as opposed to going out to see a movie that's currently a popular age-appropriate makeout place. IOW, is choosing retro seen as nerdy? But again this would be "nerdy" understood very differently than what it meant when we were growing up.
It seems difficult to separate out from the shift in what "hipster" means over the past, let's say 5-7 years, where it is now a fashion category, the signifiers of which are recognized by a pretty large segment of the population, but not really connected with lifestyle/music/bohemianism/starving-artist/liberal-arts/whatever. I saw a Craigslist ad the other day specifically looking for someone with "hipster style" but "not necessarily the lifestyle."
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 November 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
er and my point was, a lot of "nerd" stuff is bound up in these "hipster" things if that makes sense
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 November 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcu79w7AKY1rxufqpo1_500.jpg
to find this i had to page through fifty posts of miley cyrus guest spot .gifs, what does this say about america
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
what thread is this
― Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but who gives a shit about star wars
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
big bang theory being the most popular sitcom in america means the mainstream is aware of geek culture as some kind of Other embodied within the culture proper; it doesn't mean that geek culture is now the culture proper. but it indicates that there's a certain level of awareness of it.
there are geeks who adopt it, enjoy their portrayal. but there were probably vets who enjoyed M*A*S*H.
― set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
ninjas are nerdy
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
i probably just set myself up for a ninja assassination huh
imo geekdom is a mode of approaching the world (& more specifically cultural products). some of the objects of geek culture have become superficially integrated into mainstream culture but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the geek “attitude” or w/e has
― 1staethyr, Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quLeQ-opSiA
― let's keep this board about feet, please. (latebloomer), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah Dr Casino otm hipster and nerd sort of blending in popular culture. The terms can be applied to anything regardless of context. There is a part of me that secretly wishes dressing like a stereotypical 80s nerd would be massively trendy, but maybe we are headed in that direction already and maybe if that happened it would just be groan-inducing like most other trends.
There's some massive layer of irony in all of it that i'm having trouble articulating. Maybe it's that i feel like the flipside of the 80s socially-awkward computer-hacking nerd was the 80s socially-skillful phone-obsessed valley girl. And now everyone is living out the ultimate dreams of both of those stereotypes simultaneously.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Hardwick has mentioned that 80s nerd is pretty much just undiagnosed aspergers or somewhere on the autism spectrum, which I'd agree with and how so much of Big Bang Theory is an 80s sitcom, including its surface-level nerd characters
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Sunday, 4 November 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
think there's some strong correlation between nerd culture as mainstream and general permanent adolescence ie before only nerds would/could possibly care about star trek, superheroes, whatever as an adult, now it''s the norm. roots of this probably w/ the normalization of rock/pop fandom (cf don draper's 'when did music become so important?')(and maybe to a lesser extent the concurrent mainstreaming of sci-fi? could be wrong here), ppl increasingly still caring at 23, 33 about the same culture they cared about at 13.
― balls, Sunday, 4 November 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
haha bear w/ me but perhaps it's a similar mechanism as what happened w/ domestication of the gray wolf -> increased comfort, delayed at worst exposure to harsh reality, sudden coddling = dogs, permanently adolescent wolves. similar phenomenon in 20th century but esp post-war america w/ prosperity, dr spock, and demographic quirk that leads to american industry and media pandering = permanently adolescent men (phenomenon not as marked w/ women it seems).
― balls, Sunday, 4 November 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
ya definitely something to do with mr spock
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
i think there are definitely feminine versions of the phenomenon but eh
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i agree but nothing i can point to as easily as 'everybody being ok w/ grown men playing video games'.
― balls, Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
In terms of masculinity and the 'jocks playing video games,' rise of sports games/shooters has to be huge there, right? and the massive, massive success of the NES and following generations of hardware, meant a lot of people who were not nerds got accustomed to playing video games in a way that fit naturally alongside other mainstream pursuits.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think a big part of the technological advancements in recent decades is not just 'everyone's on the internet' but video games just became way more varied and inaccessible -- you could simulate just about any sport or hobby or style of battle etc. plus of course more people are gonna see sci-fi and superhero movies now than 40 years ago, shit looks way cool now! back when all you could really do was put a guy in a cape or an alien costume of course dialogue-driven movies about normal human beings still stood a chance of being blockbusters.
― some dude, Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
kids always played video games, atari was a mass phenom. there is an interesting divide where madden is this huge HUGE mainstream thing that gamers seem to generally ignore, maybe the only video game w/ a higher mainstream profile, and is treated as normal if still 'lol men' like fantasy football or whatever whereas non-sports gaming still has some reek of subculture, to the extent that it's been absorbed it's as a cliche of bachelorhood at best ie still not fully adult.
― balls, Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, with the atari 2600 and the NES, video games became normalized for an entire generation. Once you had madden/nhl on the genesis, you had these same kids a little older who were getting into organized sports still playing e.g. my brother and his teammates, who would have junior high sleepovers where they played season-long campaigns until dawn. In the PSX era, it kept going, to the point where my brother played Div-II college football in the late 90s and talked about at least one guy on his team who inexplicably got obsessed by FF7.
also, this is just for the west. In Japan, you have this entirely different history about this kinda stuff.
On a related note, the day job sends me everywhere, so I stop by casinos from time to time just to peek in. The popularity of certain kinds of video slots gives me the feeling that this is the socially acceptable way for older folks to get that hit that video games give. And there are _thousands_ of this slots at every casino in America, with every potential licensee than you can imagine.
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Sunday, 4 November 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
yeah er the demographics of gaming i think is sort of four fifths to be explained with 'the generations that grew up with this stuff were less likely to stop playing them'
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
i think don draper's 'when did music become so important' is a half truth at best (otoh i've never seen that episode so)
i dont know i was about to try and embark on some kind of grand overarching theory of the cultural value of the aspie rube and then i just found myself stuck thinking 'what did a 19th century nerd look like'
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
people would avoid him at parties because he'd just spend a hell of a lot of time explaining exactly how irrigation ought to be done or explaining the misattributions in Child ballads
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
like okay the habit of responding to things with nerdish intensity and devotion is an outcome of the postwar industrialisation of leisure right? & i dont know if it is just that some things are capable of becoming nerd-plausible from a background in THE MONOCULTURE (music), while others are capable of reaching THE MONOCULTURE from a nerd-plausible background (videogames) , i mean, i don't know whether this is arbitrary or whether it's necessary to come up with an overarching thesis
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
or that the overarching thesis as usually articulated ('everyone uses computers now!! and jocks play call of duty!!') totally fails to articulate what the shift actually means -- you mean that now that computers are things that are easy to use and don't require the sort of mindset that enjoys learning about the schools of d&d magic to get the hang of, the set of people that use them displays a weaker correlation with the sort of people who build miniature planes than it used to? well yes
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 4 November 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder if there are "The Big Store" or "Night in Casablanca" apologists out there.
rollerskate chase setpiece in Big Store is p lol iirc, even if it's more wuxian than Marxian
― sug night (sic), Monday, 5 November 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
(I saw it 19 years ago though so)
― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, November 4, 2012 6:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
http://i53.tinypic.com/fnxyqe.png
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 5 November 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
new life goal here
― The Most Typical and Popular Girl Rider (Crabbits), Monday, 5 November 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
Ease of use is definitely an issue. The first computers were programmed pretty much in assembly, the first PC's were all command-line DOS, then you go on to Windows, Windows 95, it gets simpler and simpler. The content and production of videogames and software likewise has followed an evolution from esoteric, experimental, and idiosyncratic programs written by one or several people to mass-marketed, focus group-tested, Hollywood-style interactive blockbusters by mega corporations. The industry has more or less sold out its capacity for uniqueness in favor of a broader audience, financial success, and cultural ubiquity.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 November 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder if on halloween roberta williams would shave off ken williams' mustache while he was asleep and glue it to her face and then wake him up and go 'booooooo, I'm yooooooo'
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 5 November 2012 07:00 (eleven years ago) link
Never. She'd have to conjure up some far more convoluted mustache transfer method; like one involving a spray bottle, a fence, scotch tape, and a cat*.
*yes I know that was Jane Jensen wot did that, but that detail ruins the joke.
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 5 November 2012 07:31 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't know there was a Jane Jensen game designer, so i thought you were talking about the singer/troma actress, and was very confused
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Monday, 5 November 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
RIP big man etc. The video posted beneath the story is worth checking out for a bit of speculation on the future of Star Wars just prior to Return of the Jedi's release.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/producer-rick-mccallum-has-quietly-retired-from-lucasfilm-20121126?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed
― DavidM, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
I can see the meeting now:
IGER: "And what did you bring to Lucasfilm again?"
McCALLUM: "I supported George in all his decisions and never questioned him."
IGER: "Oh good god."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
Rick McCallum, patriot saint of untalented, idiot yes-men everywhere.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 26 November 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
About 7,390,000 results (0.47 seconds) for rick mccallum it's so dense
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
Well, what about Revenge of the Sith? You say it's the greatest work of art, in any medium, created in the last 30 years. It’s better than... uh, Matthew Barney or Rachel Whiteread or Chris Ware or Peter Doig? Yes, the long finale of Revenge of the Sith has more inherent artistic value, emotional power, and global impact than anything by the artists you name. It's because the art world has flat-lined and become an echo chamber of received opinion and toxic over-praise. It's like the emperor's new clothes—people are too intimidated to admit what they secretly think or what they might think with their blinders off.http://www.vice.com/read/camille-paglia-believes-that-revenge-of-the-sith-is-our-generations-greatest-work-of-art
http://www.vice.com/read/camille-paglia-believes-that-revenge-of-the-sith-is-our-generations-greatest-work-of-art
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
revenge of the sith is great because i dont like the art world
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
become an echo chamber of received opinion and toxic over-praise.
dear god, what. amazing that CP still has this power to infuriate me.
― goole, Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
haha Matthew Barney
― wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Queen Challop
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
A Matthew Barney directed Revenge of the Sith would have been great.
― akm, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
Amazing thing is that "echo chamber of received opinion and toxic over-praise" describes Lucasfilm in the prequel era way better than it will ever describe "the art world."
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
at the very least we would have gotten a close up of anakin's scarred penis being removed post-lava
each of the three prequels should have been done by a different contemporary artist, it'd be like the Alien series but with somehow even more vaseline and resin.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
each of the three prequels should not have been made
― abanana, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
The next three movies should be shot-for-shot remakes of the prequels directed by and starring Tyler Perry.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
As Madea.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
As Madea Binks, Jar-Jar's grandmother.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
On a semi-related note, the new Plinkett Review is out. They take pains to show the contrast between 1997 James Cameron and 1997 George Lucas:
http://redlettermedia.com/mr-plinkett-review-titanic/
― "It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 07:24 (eleven years ago) link
Started watching that last night and realized that since I haven't seen Titanic it just didn't have the same entertainment value. Oddly this did not apply as much to Cop Dog and Baby's Day Out.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
I liked the Avatar review better, mainly cause its a shittier movie but also cause it sends-up how cynically yet brilliantly the Na'vi were designed for maximum neoteny/sexual appeal.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Oh and if you want to watch Titanic I highly recommend doing it with the Rifftrax commentary -- it's one of the best IMO, up there with the Roadhouse one.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
their Transformers is great, and the Abrams Star Trek riff is hilarious too
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
oh and of course, Twilight rifftrax is all=time
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Don't forget the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull rifftrax, it is one of my all time faves.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
omg yes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
I fell asleep trying to watch it straight, rifftrax helped immensely with that
here we go nowreally slownearly limpingcause he's old old OLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD7VWVtm97M
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
I have something like affection for this movie just because of how great the rifftrax is. I would never watch it straight, though. I think that's a good rule of thumb for any Shia Leboef movie.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
i love how much mike clearly haaaates this movie. it makes me happy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
xpost otm re shia. I had never seen Transformers and my first viewing was Rifftrax. God bless them.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Not a crime, but he's now engaged to longtime gf Mellody Hobson.
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/58946-george-lucas-star-wars-creator-engaged-to-mellody-hobson/1357250860_mellody-hobson-george-lucas-467.jpg"those are no moons..."
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
basically wtg george
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
Awesome! Maybe we are entering a post-crimes era of the GL story. Selling off Star Wars, getting married, etc. Let's see some of those abstract personal films now dood.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
maybe he could work on the twin peaks reboot
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
I misread that as 'the twin peaks robot'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
that's one of the new CGI characters
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, I think he's at that point in his career now where, like Isaac Asimov or Stephen King, he has an urge to tie together his major brands.Can hardly wait for Indiana Jones & The Laser Sabre of Myanmar!
― Øystein, Saturday, 5 January 2013 11:26 (eleven years ago) link
http://parksandresorts.wdpromedia.com/media/disneyparks/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mer301725LARGE-465x465.jpg
Here's your Disney Star Wars merch...
― DavidM, Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
There was already a fair amount of crossover merch before the sale, believe me.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I can't believe people are freaking out about this. There's been crossover merch since Star Tours started in 1987, and since Star Wars Weekends became an annual thing in 2003 it's really stepped up.
― ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
bib fortuna bearbrick is pretty next level
― Look, Brian, about the afro wig... (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
Amount of people freaking out over this vs. amount of people talking about people freaking out over this
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/gallery/star-wars-weekends-merchandise/thermal-detonator.png
This actually seems like a neat bit of kit that you could use for drinking games, etc
― Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Monday, 1 April 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the Star Wars Muppets connection has been around since the beginning
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060105145130/muppet/images/7/79/Starwars.jpg
― Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Monday, 1 April 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
just glad JJ Abrams not doing Pigs in Space feature
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
"Who's your tailor? I LOVE that outfit..."
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Monday, 1 April 2013 07:35 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BBhNkywMJY
― am0n, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
― am0n, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
did depalma really write the opening crawl. i didnt know that
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I googled that too, seems kinda crazy
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Disney promises 1 new 'Star Wars' film every summer starting in 2015
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
until the end of time
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
until they don't make moneyand then four years after that with a complete reboot
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
i am impressed that patton knows all the infinity gauntlet gems off the top of his head
he mispronounces coruscant the same way i do in my head.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
this is the nerdiest rant ive seen in a while
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
DePalma and all those guys were friends if Peter Biskind's book is anything to go off of
― Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Thursday, 18 April 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah he was the ladies' man of the bunch iirc
― mackleless (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 April 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
You can tell by the way I scroll, shortyThat I'm a ladies' man, a business man
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 April 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
still not available in my country
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
lol Harrison Ford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0vs9gYydo
― ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
and then four years after that with a complete reboot
a star wars reboot stamping on a human face forever
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.starwarsuncut.com/they just finished empire
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
"Your sad devotion to that ancient religion ..... which ruled the galaxy like 20 years ago"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
they just finished empire
woot woot
― Hockey Drunk (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://kotaku.com/how-lucasarts-fell-apart-1401731043
Kind of enlightening story about how LucasArts the game company fell apart and had multiple amazing-sounding projects fail, mainly due to GL constantly changing his mind.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 September 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Take the case of "Star Wars GTA," for example. During the early days of the 1313 project, some top staff at LucasArts wanted it to be an open-world, Grand Theft Auto-style Star Wars game set on Coruscant, according to two people familiar with that project. It was a fantasy for many on the team, and the thought is enticing—who wouldn’t want to explore and cause mayhem in a world full of seedy bounty hunters and Star Wars crime families?Looking at their contemporaries at Rockstar and Ubisoft, LucasArts staffers plotted out how many people it would take to build a game like that—hundreds—and how much money it’d cost—millions. That was too much of a risk for the executives at LucasFilm, sources say.
Looking at their contemporaries at Rockstar and Ubisoft, LucasArts staffers plotted out how many people it would take to build a game like that—hundreds—and how much money it’d cost—millions. That was too much of a risk for the executives at LucasFilm, sources say.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 September 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
a star wars vii is really being made? that's ... horrifying.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
That's more the crimes of the current owners of the George Lucas intellectual property collection.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link
Star Wars 7 shit talk
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 7 April 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link
Motormouth & Killpower),
― a pretty interesting week for the common man living in limerick village (soref), Monday, 7 April 2014 02:30 (ten years ago) link
um, didn't mean to post that, sorry
― a pretty interesting week for the common man living in limerick village (soref), Monday, 7 April 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link
but during a meeting with Star Wars creator George Lucas, he presented a new vision for the Darth Maul title. According to Game Informer, Lucas wanted a "buddy cop-like experience" with Darth Maul and Darth Talon — a Sith Lady separated by more than 170 years of Star Wars fiction from Maul — teaming up as friends.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/8/5595156/report-lucasarts-canceled-darth-maul-game-star-wars-red-fly-studio
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 April 2014 04:03 (ten years ago) link
― so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:40 PM (4 years ago)
They're showing TESB on ITV1 right now. Earlier I caught the bit where Han has just come back from his patrol. Then I watched the second half of Iron Man on Channel 4, which was also replete with commercials but not too bad. Just switched back to TESB and Luke is still taking out walkers on Hoth.
― I only listen to Vantablack Metal (snoball), Saturday, 16 August 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Rumor going around that Disney is going to release the original, unaltered, trilogy on Blu Ray.
― oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 16 August 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
that news directed me to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY
looks interesting/promising. has anybody seen these versions?
― when i die, show no pity. send my soul to juggalo city (art), Saturday, 16 August 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
I still hold GL blocked re-issuing the originals due to his ex-wife's credit on(and royalties from) them
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Sunday, 17 August 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
holy shiz that looks amazing.
― piscesx, Sunday, 17 August 2014 11:14 (nine years ago) link
That's pretty cool, but also seems a little like the cinematic equivalent of those foreskin restoration guys.
― oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 17 August 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link
despecialized versions are really great. It feels like you're watching star wars, an effect the bds cunningly avoid.
― DISMISSED AS CHANCE (NotEnough), Sunday, 17 August 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link
They're showing TESB on ITV1 right now.
We got pulled into this last night (and it was a pleasure), but some really really horribly placed breaks, more and more towards the end.
― woof, Sunday, 17 August 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
despecialized versions are what you are looking for, if you are looking for them. stuff in there a 90s kid like me only dimly remembered from extreme childhood: the puppety emperor-face in darth vader's holographic conferwnce room (it's lawrence kasdan's wife, or leigh brackett, or someone, i forget); the elusive budget wampa; jabba's throne room without that fucking fucking fucking song. download these and ignore the blu-rays; it is morally unjustifiable to pay for star wars in 2014.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 17 August 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
the orange vaseline "force field" underneath the landspeeder (obscuring the wheels)
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 17 August 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
getting rid of the weird fusion number in favour of that fucking fucking fucking song may have been the worst aesthetic misstep among lucas' million aesthetic missteps
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 August 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
sounds poll-worthy
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 17 August 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
the part where the rudimentary 90s-cgi alien vamp shoves her stalked lips in the camera lens: surprised they didn't re-release this bullshit in 3D
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 17 August 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vfxhq.com/1997/stills/sw/jedi/joh1.gif
http://www.vfxhq.com/1997/stills/sw/jedi/sy1.gif
TS
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 17 August 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
good christ i'd never seen that newer jabba song until now bc i avoided that version of the movie like the plague. wow...
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 17 August 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
so glad i never saw this on the big screen, there is no way it would have ended without thrown popcorn or worse
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 17 August 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
lol, this is news to me too; this was actually in the rereleased version?what horrors they have put upon sy snootlesfor reference for you youngshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Kj98hIb58
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
See I can dig the space clavinet and that bass synth fill at 0:38 in
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
Also, looking back, I think it's kinda neat and really weird that they made action figures for a crime boss' band:
http://theswca.com/images-toys/figuretoys/rebo-front.jpg
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
as a child, i bought that. i think my action figure collection on the star wars end was first luke, boba fett, darth vader (without his head, due to a venetian blinds cord hanging episode), these guys, greedo, squidface... and that mighta been it.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Googling around for info on the instrumentation of the original track, I found this:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Surprisingly-Strange-Story-of-Lapti-Nek/topic/14770/
Reprinting two stories from Crawdaddy about the original song, which involves a Meco remix, a dude from Toto trying to issue the single as a 12", and multiple vocal tracks recorded by both an inhouse sound engineer and also a professional musician who Lucas may or may not have been hooking up with around the time of his divorce.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
the Cantina music is obviously much better known but listening to it with fresh ears it's charmingly weird, I wonder if there was a Sun Ra fan on the team who decided that big band IN SPACE was a good idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaPf-MRKITg
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
wow at this:
One thing led to another, and Arbogast was given the chore of creating "Lapti Nek" for Sy Snootles. She made up the "Huttese" lyrics by spilling pieces of Scrabble and Perquacky on her kitchen table in East Oakland, and picking them up at random."They wanted a sound that was a cross between Captain Crunch and Olive Oyl and a parrot stuck in an elephant's trunk. I figured I could handle that," Annie told me."Now the song's very big. They made a video of it for MTV," she said. What she's earned has enabled her to buy a new Toyota.Arbogast's steam-engine singing voice is one thing. When she talks she's shy like a farm girl, blushing and self-conscious. At our meeting in a cold backroom at Berkeley Square she was wearing her rock and roll costume - a metal junkyard over a mini-dress that would raise eyebrows even in the Tenderloin."I'm not really a punker," she said, a little blush in her painted eyes. She tore the filter off a Winston and lit it like a sailor in the wind."I been with this band Smear for seven months now. I don't know what you call our music, exactly. Somebody said it was modern rock, or acid power pop. I don't really want to be a computer tech all my life. I think my future's in music.
"They wanted a sound that was a cross between Captain Crunch and Olive Oyl and a parrot stuck in an elephant's trunk. I figured I could handle that," Annie told me.
"Now the song's very big. They made a video of it for MTV," she said. What she's earned has enabled her to buy a new Toyota.
Arbogast's steam-engine singing voice is one thing. When she talks she's shy like a farm girl, blushing and self-conscious. At our meeting in a cold backroom at Berkeley Square she was wearing her rock and roll costume - a metal junkyard over a mini-dress that would raise eyebrows even in the Tenderloin.
"I'm not really a punker," she said, a little blush in her painted eyes. She tore the filter off a Winston and lit it like a sailor in the wind.
"I been with this band Smear for seven months now. I don't know what you call our music, exactly. Somebody said it was modern rock, or acid power pop. I don't really want to be a computer tech all my life. I think my future's in music.
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
The liner notes of the OT soundtrack box set go into that, about how they wanted a cosmic Benny Goodman song.
Also, found this, which had an insane amount of detail, including the original and translated lyrics:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lapti_Nek
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
http://let-the-wookie-win.com/images/20120906211506_annie%20arbogast.jpg
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
it's such a shame that Bollux didn't produce jizz
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Gender
Masculine programming[3]
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
i swear we've had this entire conversation before
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
I think I bring up Bollux every couple of months so probably yeah
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
naw, i meant the sy snootles / lapti nek / star wiki / jizz progressionthe saddest of progressions
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link
The ROTJ toy line was definitely the coolest of the original set of movie figures (not counting the Power of the Force toys). First film's were way too flimsy and cheap-feeling, which really hobbled Vader, Luke and Obi-Wan particularly. Empire had the badass Imperial Walkers but how many kids actually had those? But by Jedi the basic figures had gotten fuller and heavier, and there were all these great ones - Bib Fortuna, the Gamorrean troll guy, the Emperor and his red guard, Leia with bounty-hunter mask, so cool. Shame about all the Ewoks though.
I love how you would seriously need a whole display case just to handle all variants of Luke Skywalker: http://www.jedibusiness.com/star-wars-figures.aspx?type=name&typeName=Luke%20Skywalker
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
holy grail for nine year old me was a basement-sized super star destroyer, which tbqf i never actually saw, i just invented it in my head. i wanted it to come with a spaceship dock below it large enough to hold a star destroyer, which in itself would have a dock large enough to hold a senator's escape shuttle.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
The story goes that when the Kenner toy designers were making the prototype figures, the only visual resource they had for the character Snaggletooth was a grainy, black-and-white photograph of the character's head. With so little to go on, the Kenner employees did their best and just made up the rest, making a figure of a blue suited, average human height creature from a character that actually wore red and was about 3 feet tall. The figure was quickly scrapped and never seen again, making it possibly the rarest Star Wars action figure on the market.
http://actionfigures.about.com/od/historyofactionfigures/tp/top_5_starwars.htm
gotta love the haphazardness of that early merchandising.
― piscesx, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
from the soundtrack album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqeGtCtDVqs
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
closest cousin, the awesome GI JOE Defiant, with a space shuttle base that launches a shuttle that can fold out to become a sort of building-like playset, and which is host to...another shuttle:
http://www.planetdiecast.com/hwdphotos/originals/12130/1173/defiant.jpg
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 17 August 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
My buddy named his stoner rock band Blue Snaggletooth:
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=105410702837250
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 18 August 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link
Also, I always thought the USS Flagg was the end-all/be-all of 80s action figure toys, as that thing was like 7.5 feet long
http://www.timidfutures.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gijoe-uss-flagg-aircraft-carrier.jpg
Fun/dumb fact: the set was based on the aircraft carrier used in _The Final Countdown_
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 18 August 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link
Also, on a related note, I scored an original FX-7 in great condition for $3 from a local consignment store:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s640x640/1621788_10152257103346596_8544268108627425152_n.jpg?oh=bf1dc3da1f95d0766e90a8e228b54ac0&oe=545FE731&__gda__=1417510900_7a83575bdfaca484daa6cc30f48f2fac
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 18 August 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
They have a USS Flagg at this place near my house: http://bigfunbigfun.com/
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Monday, 18 August 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
Ha; my ex-gf strongly recommended I visit there last time I got sent to Cleveland. Didn't get the chance to make it down, tho.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 18 August 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link
I had one of the cardboard UK death stars as a kid! It was so rad - it had a tunnel you could throw your figures down, into the trash compactor...
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Monday, 18 August 2014 08:34 (nine years ago) link
Switching gears a little but, I had one of these things. Cool because it had nothing to do with the movie.
http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/5361/8439313_2.jpg?v=8CB24FA57116B70
― how's life, Monday, 18 August 2014 09:18 (nine years ago) link
little bit. Anyway, there were a few other similar one-man ships called mini-rigs.
― how's life, Monday, 18 August 2014 09:21 (nine years ago) link
should just re-name this thread "arrested development"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
Shakey turned into Dr. Morbius so gradually, we hardly even noticed.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
would he prefer it if we just sat around wishing Lucas were dead?
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
I wonder if previous generations got all "man when I was a kid I had this one stick I used to play with, it was the coolest thing" as they aged
― Οὖτις, Monday, 18 August 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
George Washington wouldn't shut up about his favorite ax from childhood
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Some people reminisced about the stick, some people prefered to walk around with the stick firmly planted up their wizened asses.
― The Ape In The Outhouse (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
oh HELLO
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=41928
― piscesx, Monday, 18 August 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
xxp yeah no baby boomers definitely were never a target market for having their own childhoods sold back to them, that is a thing that never happened.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Monday, 18 August 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
As io9.com pointed out the other day, all this talk of unaltered Original Trilogy Blu-Rays is just talk, since Fox owns the worldwide distribution rights to Star Wars in perpetuity, and to the other five movies through 2020.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Monday, 18 August 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, but as also pointed out elsewhere, Fox could stand to strike a deal that would make them bucketloads of money. I think it'll still happen sooner rather than later, there is way too much money to be made for it not to.
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
yeah with Lucas' petty ego out of the way the $$$ will win out
― Οὖτις, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
i really hope osmeone writes a good article or oral history or wahtever about g-luc's decision to sell off star wars
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
that would def be good reading, but surely it all comes down to '$$$$ + tired of being yelled at by nerds'
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
afaik he'd said that if his black WWII fighter squadron movie failed he was done w movies. (It failed).
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
TBF, he did not try to make it good, so he was clearly looking for a way out the whole time.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
yeah there could v well have been some subconscious self-sabotage there, it is kind of his overall m.o.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
such a massively insecure dude
all of his terrible ideas were just cries for help
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
darth booger or whatever from the cartoons et al
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
i wanna know the moment he went from i am the mastermind and god of this complex universe and i will be overseeing it and all its technical innovatiosn for decades to come to "ah fuck it"
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
I mean, $4 billion
― heck (silby), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
Bob Iger probably gave him a call and was like "our stock is up ever since we started this Marvel thing and we're looking for more bankable franchises, how's $4 billion for the whole kit and caboodle sound to you"
― heck (silby), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
s1ocki otm
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
i know it was a lot of money but dude was already loaded, there had to be some sort of large shift in his consciousness
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
"Those ILX guys sure are mean to me. I'm getting off this boat."
(PS frogbs is George Lucas)
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
maybe he realized this stuff was just kinda fucking stupid?
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
you guys know i wasnt specifically asking YOU for your insights on this matter
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Well Lucas should be along any minute
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
it was four billion dollars s1ocki, how can you not comprehend that
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
he really wanted that ivory backscratcher
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
maybe he was like hey kids, when i die, do you want four billion dollars or responsibility for star wars
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link
think he's gonna philanthropize so they won't get all 4 bil
― heck (silby), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
I, George Lucas, being of sound mind and body, do hereby bequeath all of my worldly belongs to the Sarlacc, where they will learn a new definition of pain as they are slowly digested over a thousand years.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
so boba fett probably died of old age, i just realized
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Not partic relevant but the talk upthread about ridiculously huge toys, do you think it wd be interesting to do a thread about that - consumer products so extremely expensive that (I assume) almost no-one ever owned them?
― cardamon, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
xp iirc from when i was 12 or so the expanded universe take is that boba fett somehow managed to crawl out
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
"this will be your last chance to own the original masterpiece"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKr5R1VNPjI
hillarious how they flogged them on video before the 97 special versions.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link
would def read this thread
― i was a downy lad, and twee (stevie), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 08:46 (nine years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:42 AM (Yesterday)
george lucas alone at 3:00 am in his vast and darkened imax chamber, peaking on 4 hits of good acid, watching attack of the clones and sobbing uncontrollably
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link
There's a pleasant 'toys your parents wouldn't buy you' thread, don't recall specificslly, but more of a list / pics thing than a look into the economics and curious product development lives of toys designed for the Gekko tots but hyped indiscriminately to all.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 10:49 (nine years ago) link
This looks pretty rad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY
― schwantz, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
http://www.whatthefett.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Dinsey_Lucas.jpg
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Saturday, 23 August 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I remember when I saw him without the beard in photos for Captain Eo and I was all 'whuh?'
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
Back when he had a neck.
― oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 23 August 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link
Galaxy far far away
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 August 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
the "from the mind of george lucas!" tag on the "strange magic" trailer is kind of the equivalent of those photos of diseased lungs they put on cartons of cigarettes in some places
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 05:11 (nine years ago) link
http://babysimpson.co.uk/info/stationary/7f09.jpg
― #Research (stevie), Friday, 23 January 2015 09:20 (nine years ago) link
he's doing a sitdown interview w/ Colbert at the Tribeca film fest
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
still really pissed about that utility data. unbelievable
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 26 March 2015 03:55 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_VZC8VE5U
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Sunday, 12 April 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
michael jackson wanted to play jar jar binks, says ahmed best
That's what George told me. Me, Natalie Portman, and George's kids—we were at Wembley arena at Michael Jackson's concert. We were taken backstage and we met Michael. There was Michael and Lisa Marie Presley. George introduced me as "Jar Jar" and I was like, That's kind of weird. Michael was like, "Oh. OK." I thought, What is going on? After Michael had driven off, we all go back up to a big afterparty. I'm having a drink with George and I said, "Why did you introduce me as Jar Jar?" He said, "Well, Michael wanted to do the part but he wanted to do it in prosthetics and makeup like 'Thriller.'" George wanted to do it in CGI. My guess is ultimately Michael Jackson would have been bigger than the movie, and I don't think he wanted that.
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 July 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MLyz7GUWgU0/hqdefault.jpg
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
Rejoice!
https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11254700_10156239974985604_6867695534067385105_n.jpg?oh=37c430aafebed5d66d9e8d7f23fa7c76&oe=56D15ABF
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 October 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link
we don't really have an 80s crimes thread but i didn't want to even further spam up the Star Wars 7 thread with this after i realized how much i'd typed up. anyway maybe relevant here as a foreshadowing of 90s/00s crimes. these are quotes from cinefex #13 (july 1983). as a preliminary let me just note that richard marquand, the director of return of the jedi is mentioned by one interviewee on the second page ("George has a lot of chips riding on this one. He's over in England now working with Richard Marquand, and will probably stay there until the picture is finished shooting") whereas "George" comes up a lot. a lot.. highlights:
Richard Edlund, 10 November 1982: A recent development is that George has decided that there are too many effects shots - which is tending to slow the picture down. So he's in the process of restructuring a few of the sequences, and there's a possibility that we're going to get a cutback in the number of shots we have to do. After all, a lot of the ILM material - especially with the spaceships - is really environmental establishment. Granted, you're seeing events take place that are necessary to the story - but a lot of them are not and, really, your attention should be focused on the actors. That's what George has in mind. I don't think he'll be cutting any sequences outright - just paring them down a bit and getting rid of some of the extraneous shots that are slowing things down. frankly, we're not unhappy to see that he's making fewer shots for us to do.
Ken Ralston, 22 November 1982: Basically what George wants is mayhem - cutting back and forth between the space battle and the ground battle and what's going on in the Deathstar. And he's building the pace throughout the whole thing by cutting from action to action. It never stops. George has just finished a major restructuring of the effects sequences - cutting some things, adding others - so we're in kind of an upheaval at the moment. He wants areal feeling of grandeur and awe, and he's trying to get a much bigger sense to the size of these things. So the complexity of the shots is far greater than anything I've ever done. (...)
In the latest purge, I had thirty-six shots cut - which sounds like a lot, but then I had some other miscellaneous space stuff added. Unfortunately, some of the shots George cut were about ninety percent completed, which hurts. He also cut some others that I was just in love with - and I'm now fighting to get a couple of them back in, just because they're really neat shots and I'd like to see them in the show. one is an A-wing being chased by a TIE-ship. (...) It's one of those shots that even when you first see it storyboarded, you know it'll probably be a real beauty. And it was coming along real nicely. As you watched it, you'd get a real feeling of upward motion. Everybody liked it. But it got tossed. So now I'm pleading with George to put it back in. Of course, George works from a different point of view. He wants to keep the story from getting so convoluted and confusing that by the end of the film you don't know what you've seen. And I have a feeling he cut that particular shot because the one right after it is of Admiral Ackbar - who's kind of a squid-head creature that Phil designed - and he said a line that was totally pointless. So George was trying to cut back and tossed them both.
Richard Edlund, 16 December 1982: The rebel attack on the Deathstar is coming along (...) The workload is enormous. (...) It turns out that all the cuts and changes George was making didn't turn out to be much of an advantage to us in terms of time. A lot of shots were cut, but about a hundred more were added, so the overall number didn't really go down. The current tally on the whole picture, I think, is more than five hundred shots. I don't know how we're goign to do it, but I'm sure we'll manage somehow.
Ken Ralston, 17 January 1983: This place is a nuthouse. It never stops. (...) We're also doing a lot of changing around on some of the shots, which is partially a result of George's recut and also of the way the whole project was approached. In the very beginning, George decided to turn Joe Johnston [yes, that Joe Johnston] and George Jenson and all the storyboard guys loose and just have them come up with all kinds of ideas. He didn't want any sequences - no specifics. He wanted big extravaganza shots and small shots. He wanted spaceships doing all kinds of things. Then he took all of this unrelated stuff and made sequences out of it, even though there was no inherent continuity and each board was different from the next. Then the storyboard artists went back to work and began refining the sequences. The problem was that we had to start working with those original storyboards, and unfortunately, there wasn't enough information then to really do the shots right - which is coming back to haunt us now.
Whent he sequences got changed around, it affected a lot of what we'd already begun shooting. A shot that was twentieth in the space battle sequence might now be in the fiftieth position, so the shot that came before it - maybe a TIE-ship flying around and blowing up - is now a cruiser with an X-wing. So George would say: "Okay, then, drop the TIE-ship elementa nd wahtever other elements don't make sense anymore, and we'll stick in these ships." So we're constantly finding ourselves going back adn replacing certain elemetns in a shot with other elements in order to maintain continuity from shot to shot. (...)
George is asking for some incredible stuff - a lot of which involves adding things to scenes that, from an effects standpoint, weren't shot right in the first place. (...) George wanted to put a chickenwalker into this one hand-held shot that was moving all around - which meant hand-drawn roto mattes and plotting the camera moves so that the background elements and foreground elements would all lock into that plate. Horrendous stuff! There'll be a bunch of stormtroopers lying dead on the ground and he'll want all but two of them painted out. Then, over on the side, we'll put in some trees to hide this prop that doesn't make sense anymore. Some bikers are sitting in the scene; but you can see the supports on their bikes, so you have to paint the supports out and maybe add some other bikers flying around. It's just unbelievable some of the things George is asking for. And what's even more unbelievable is we're doing it - at least in a lot of cases. We're trying anyway. But even George Lucas can't always have everything.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
you can exactly why lucas greeted CGI with such enthusiasm (uncritical enthuasiasm, you might say)
you also might say that lucas "fixed" this issue in the "special editions"--by including all the effects that were too time-consuming to incorporate into the original versions (and then some)
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
yeah. clearly there was some kind of productive friction between what he wanted, and what his effects team could deliver, which (as in most cinefex issues btw) ends up yielding these great sequences as the team has to figure out how the fuck to do something with the time, money, space and equipment they have. "well we could do it this way but then our hands would be tied if we later needed to..." or "with go-motion, there's always a problem getting the lighting to match" or whatever.
there are other control-freak director issues where you get that same push and pull but it sounds a little healthier. the one on the terminator is great. but the thing is that you also get the sense that lucas does understand these effects and how they're done, both from having done star wars and just from how much they relate to basic things a director has to deal with like lighting and lenses and frames per second of film and stuff. and yet he still is already trying to get these people to work like computer-editing. here's another good bit i missed:
Dennis Muren, 1 February 1983: ... Not all of it's real simple, though. We're doing some pretty complex stuff. From the tons of plate material we shot, George is picking shots and saying: "Let's stick a walker back in there." So we'll shoot the walker, and the roto department will make sort of a matte of some ferns or something in the foreground that'll cut off the walker's feet and make it as though it's back in the shot somewhere. Plus we're also putting walkers into a lot of the shots that aren't locked off. Whenever we do that, we have to plot the movement in the plate and then incorporate it into our motion control program for the puppet. We had a couple incredibly long pan shots - like 90 degrees - and we'd look at them and say: "Nobody would do a shot like that. We'd be crazy to try a shot like that." But then we'd project up the plate, plot the thing out a frame at a time through the camera, and then play it back with the motion control on our model move - and it works! That's what makes this work so exciting. (...) But then another one that George picked after that was where it's locked off and you start panning to the left. On that one, he wanted the walker coming right toward the camera - so if it's drifting at all, you'll see it. We did that once; but it still needs to be a little bit tighter, so we're going to redo it. (...) We have another horrendous shot that George insists that he wants. It's right after one of the walkers has been blown up. You see its head flying apart in a high-speed closeup, and then we cut to a shot of it standing there - with its head gone - and some ewoks in the foreground turn around and look back at it. The problem is that the only shot George could find where the ewoks stop running and turn to look back has a tilt on it. The walker's supposedly been hit and blown up, so it can't rock. It just has to stand there, smoking. So our tilt has to match exactly. We can't cover it up by having the walker moving around. We'll be starting on that one within the next couple of days."
cut forward fifteen years and it's behind-the-scenes footage of lucas in a chair, over the shoulder of two people at computers clicking their mice, sipping his starbucks cup and asking of they can make the spaceship more round, and add some things buzzing around in the background, and take out the crowd in the front but add some people walking in from stage left, etc. no problem, mr. lucas.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
We have another horrendous shot that George insists that he wants. It's right after one of the walkers has been blown up. You see its head flying apart in a high-speed closeup, and then we cut to a shot of it standing there - with its head gone - and some ewoks in the foreground turn around and look back at it. The problem is that the only shot George could find where the ewoks stop running and turn to look back has a tilt on it. The walker's supposedly been hit and blown up, so it can't rock. It just has to stand there, smoking. So our tilt has to match exactly.
unexpected happy ending: have never forgotten this shot
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
But then another one that George picked after that was where it's locked off and you start panning to the left. On that one, he wanted the walker coming right toward the camera
or this one i think!
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
would kill for a reel of whatever the fuck george cut out though. pointless commentary by ackbar, you say??
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
as opposed to all the ackbar commentary that made it in?
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
He didn't want any sequences - no specifics. He wanted big extravaganza shots and small shots. He wanted spaceships doing all kinds of things. Then he took all of this unrelated stuff and made sequences out of it, even though there was no inherent continuity and each board was different from the next. Then the storyboard artists went back to work and began refining the sequences. The problem was that we had to start working with those original storyboards, and unfortunately, there wasn't enough information then to really do the shots right
Can we change the thread title to 'the dick moves of george lucas'
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link
man there are 3,000 posts in this thread huh
― thwomp (thomp), Monday, 9 November 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
never forget darth icky
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
lucas on why he didn't return to direct the new movie:
You go to make a movie and all you do is get criticized, and people try to make decisions about what you’re going to do before you do it.Y’know, it’s not much fun, and you can’t experiment; you can’t do anything. You have to do it a certain way. I don’t like that, I never did. I started out in experimental films, and I want to go back to experimental films, but of course no one wants to see experimental films.
Y’know, it’s not much fun, and you can’t experiment; you can’t do anything. You have to do it a certain way. I don’t like that, I never did. I started out in experimental films, and I want to go back to experimental films, but of course no one wants to see experimental films.
if only this poor multibillionaire, whose star wars features were mostly-self-funded, could find a way to make the films he really wants to make :(
― the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 November 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
lol at the idea that george lucas wants to make experimental filmsbigger lol at the idea that ANY film by george lucas wouldn't draw some interest... red tails aside. marketing for that was so confused.
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
I wonder, when he says that no one wants to see experimental films, if his complaint is actually that an experimental film, even one made by George Lucas, is unlikely to be widely distributed by a major studio or gross hundreds of millions of dollars.
― Say Goodbye To That Blood (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
George Lucas and Michael Bay, just prisoners of an unjust system
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
I'm thinking he could probably put THX-1139 on YouTube, there might be a deal there.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
its almost as if the movie going public has been dumbed down from decades of Star Wars-inspired SFX crap
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
I think I posted it on another thread, but there was an interview where he made some comments about the corrupt nature of the studio system, racism in casting, and his opting out of different organizations that were fairly on-point, but then he had to keep harping on about how he was above these problems and blamed the lack of success of Red Tails on the system. He couldn't understand why a George Lucas product was not successful.
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
bigger lol at the idea that ANY film by george lucas wouldn't draw some interest...
Ahem
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Strange_Magic_poster.jpg
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah, did that happen?
― how's life, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
Easy, you deserved love.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
i honestly never heard of it!
Lucas had been working on developing the project for 15 years before production began. Touchstone Pictures released Strange Magic on January 23, 2015[4] and became a critical and commercial failure. The film's opening weekend box office debut of $5.5 million is one of the worst ever for a film opening at 3,000+ theaters.
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link
On the film's plot, director Gary Rydstrom stated, "We pitched it as a Beauty and the Beast story where the Beast doesn't change."
Shrek is a 2001 American computer-animated fantasy-comedy film produced by PDI/DreamWorks, released by DreamWorks Pictures
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
(sry for spoilers)
These little things look so apologetic:
http://socialmoms.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Disney-StrangeMagic-EditorialFeatureImage-20150430-FINAL-634x380.jpg
― how's life, Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
Strange Magic was horribly marketed, and by all accounts it was also a horrible movie. I sincerely wonder what the heck Lucas has in mind when he thinks "I've got an experimental film in me, waiting to be made."
― Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
Star Wars was pretty experimental, in the strictest sense of the word.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
"American Graffiti"s nonstop rock 'n roll soundtrack was pretty radical in '73 too
― kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
the miniature/special effects shots in Star Wars were pretty out there for the time
to the point where a ton of other films used Industrial Light and Magic for their films, including Star Trek
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
then there's the diverging branch where ILM continued into the computer animation era but also managed to spin off Pixar
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
THX, too.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
None of which of course is a reason why he should take up the reins again.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
that strange magic rabbit is creepy as fuck
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-lucas-on-why-he-is-done-directing-star-wars/
― schwantz, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link
oh, OTHER people don't get why the movies are entertaining
tbh it's pretty funny that he framed it as a drama about family problems when his editor for the films people actually liked was his ex-wife
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
Is his ex-wife, was his wife.
"When you break up with somebody, the first rule is no phone calls. The second rule, you don't go over to their house and drive by to see what they're doing," he said laughing. "The third one is you don't show up at their coffee shop and say you are going to burn it... You just say 'Nope, gone, history, I'm moving forward.'"
I feel like there's a story George wants to tell here. But like the rest of his stories, we're better off without.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
That's a meme that really needs to die. Marcia Lucas was one of three credited editors on Star Wars, and wasn't even the primary editor; Paul Hirsch was. She wasn't credited at all on Empire; Hirsch was the only credited editor. And on Jedi she was again one of three credited editors.
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
In fact Hirsch and Richard Chew edited the great majority of Star Wars, aided by an uncredited George Lucas; Marcia worked mostly on the Death Star battle which, admittedly, she turned from an incoherent mess into something great.
Nonetheless, it's another brick in a very, very stupid wall which is supposed to support the idea that Lucas had nothing to do with the success of the OT.
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
Perhaps by editor I mean to say "she told George his ideas were bad over dinner"
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
Your familiarity with the word 'credited' leads me to suspect you are familiar with its dark side 'uncredited'?
More seriously have you seen the article upthread about her contributions? It seems fairly convincing that she was working on Empire.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
Bah iPhone-caused xp
Someone who could share opinions with him versus a room full of people who can't tell him to his face that "Darth Icky" is a bad idea
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
Since I used the word "uncredited," yes, I'm fairly obviously familiar with it. Which is why I said Marcia wasn't credited on Empire, not that she didn't work on it.
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
we can be pedants, or we can meditate on the pure badness of "Darth Icky"
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that's the iPhone - Safari doesn't show you what's been posted since you started writing a response.
It's a pretty small wall though - out of a thousand people, would you reckon there'd be even one who could put together a coherent argument that George Lucas was incidental to Star Wars? I'd be surprised if you got fifty who know who Marcia Lucas is.
Maybe Michael Kaminski is largely overstating her role, and maybe the only reason for that is to diminish George's role (though I don't think the book does that). But I'm not sure that the owner of one of the largest franchises in history as the rebels and someone who's given one interview in 32 years as the Empire really works :)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
But we can all agree on Icky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBzJF_-cBA
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
http://upl.stack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ickey-shuffle-o-2.gif
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
GEORGE NOOOOO
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
I'm sure there will be nothing about family or any family-related drama in this movie. All spaceships shooting at stuff.
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
how many hours of nonstop spaceships shooting at stuff and lightsaber battles sans any backstory whatsoever would this have to be before opening night crowds walked out? Nine? Ten?
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
just saw this Phantom Menace deleted scene for the first time. i laughed.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link
so a jedi friend of theirs dies in front of them, and they spend time whimsically pondering their next action
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
FAMILY
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
I'm still wound up by the idea George Lucas thinks he has a better grasp on plotting characters with relationships and families than the people who now own Star Wars
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
George Lucas is now reminding me of the guy who graduated last year but still hangs around the high school a lot. LET IT GO, GEORGE.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link
attending a party at his ranch in a few weeks, anyone got any questions they want me to ask him
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
already got "When is the sequel to Red Tails coming out????!???" covered
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link
how about an animated reboot of howard the duck?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 November 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
ooh good idea
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
Maybe he has! He just doesn't like the bit where you show them to people.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
I'll ask to see some. Preferably in his "greatest movie theater in the world"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 November 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
ok, i like the idea that george lucas has become an inverse howard hughes, holed up in his mansion, endlessly filming movies for nobody but himself. there could be dozens of these smaller, more experimental films. hundreds, even. no guesses on the jars of urine though.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link
ask him if he ever goes back to Modesto
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:17 (eight years ago) link
can someone tell george lucas why not?!?
― the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link
Find out his thoughts on individual building meter data, duh
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link
Will there be a special edition release of the holiday special?
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link
jar jars of urine
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 05:14 (eight years ago) link
excellent Kasdan interview here
"I had just taken six months to write RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK from scratch. I handed it in, and George said, ‘do you want to write EMPIRE STRIKES BACK?’ Literally, he threw it on the desk and asked me to write EMPIRE. He said, ‘We’re in big trouble. Leigh Brackett [who wrote the first draft] has passed away. They’re building sets in England. And I don’t have a script.’ I said, ‘Maybe you ought to read RAIDERS first.’ He said, ‘I’m going to read it tonight, and if I don’t like it I’ll call you back tomorrow and take back this offer.. “George said to me, ‘Darth Vader is Luke’s father.’ And I said, ‘No shit?’ "
http://www.wired.com/2015/11/lawrence-kasdan-qa/
― piscesx, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
George once said to me, “oh, Ben is not a Jedi master.” I said, “what?” And he said, “yeah, he’s not really a master. A master is this and this.” And I said, “you’re out of your mind.”
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
the thing is it could have been a deliciously bond-esque scene, baseball signs and everything, if directed with any urgency whatsoever
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
he forgot to say "faster and more intense"
― Number None, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link
I don't think anyone necessarily said the dude was incidental to the first three, but rather that he had fairly strong collaborative feedback control system, if you will, surrounding him that was able to edit and select and shape the random neural firing out of his brain into something better.
Actors on his first film would supplement or override his direction. DePalma reportedly cut down and reshape for the opening crawl. His wife and others literally edited the stuff. Guys like Gary Kurtz were there to call him on his shit and get in fights over it if need be(and who acrimoniously quit during the pre-production of Jedi).
― Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
Ask him what exactly has stopped one of the most successful directors/producers of all-time, who basically owns his own movie studio, from making those "smaller, more experimental films" he's been yammering about for the past 30 years.― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, November 30, 2015 5:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, November 30, 2015 5:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you've heard of nathaniel dorsky, right?
have you ever seen nathaniel dorsky and george lucas in the same room?
i didn't think so....
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
"deliciously bond-esque" is not a good match for these films (or any films) though.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 08:00 (eight years ago) link
Skywalker Ranch is p odd. Japanese-style architecture, "attendants" waiting to direct you to your destination at every several hundred feet, a statue of yoda in the courtyard, tons of old original movie posters, and original Mucha of Sandra Bernhard (this was probably the thing I was most interested in). His private movie theater was showing "White Christmas", nice velvet seats.
George did not appear to hold forth on the many experimental films he has under development
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
wonder how much movie memorabilia will be relocated to that new museum complex in chicago
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
I'm sure he's got a bajillion things stashed away - we didn't see any norman rockwell stuff, for example, and I know he's got a lot of that. And there was actually very little Star Wars material. The ranch itself is used strictly for private events and is not open to the public, so I assume most of what goes on there is related to his philanthropic activities and rich people wine parties and things like that.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
a former colleague was a registrar for the Skywalker ranch/ Lucas collection- the SW archive is apparently very, very extensive.
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link
All that Jar-Jar merchandise had to go into a landfill somewhere
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
I can only imagine it's paved over somewhere in the desert, to be excavated by Jar Jar revisionists in 30 years
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link
http://yourpopfilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/jar-jar-binks-candy-tongue.jpg
― glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 06:36 (eight years ago) link
that's the most poignant candy dispenser I've ever seen
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 10:49 (eight years ago) link
Xpost The gist of the Chicago Museum iirc is not really to house movie memorabilia but his vast collection of fine art. Be shocked if it doesn't at least have a Star Wars wing. I recall when they built this nice new aquarium in Camden, New Jersey and thought it was a good idea to focus on local fish. After a year of low attendance, out came the sharks and shiny fish.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link
no idea if this has prev seen light of day
https://twitter.com/pareene/status/676539201471586307
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
goddamn it.
― how's life, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's from the Making Of book that came out in 2013
but yeah, the level of detail even then is pretty crazy
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
http://www.designboom.com/architecture/mad-architects-george-lucas-museum-of-narrative-art-approved-chicago-11-02-2015/ (from nov)
― conrad, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
ha, re that story conversation: was rereading chunks of the secret history of star wars yesterday and laughing at how frequently lucas' early conception of the emperor was described as a "nixonian bureaucrat" (not a phrase that makes a whole lot of sense but tevs)--like, i wish!
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
do you mean Emperor Cos Dashit?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link
lol yes i do
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link
I learned a new term this weekend:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founder%27s_syndrome
― Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Monday, 21 December 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link
can't argue that
you need new blood, otherwise you end up doing things the exact same way forever while the world rolls on around you
you also run the risk that the people who were so instrumental had one good idea and don't realize you can't work off that forever
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 21 December 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/ibhuE1UO6WD
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 January 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link
XD
― how's life, Saturday, 2 January 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link
Around when episode 1 came out, I saw an interview with Lucas on Canadian TV* where he said he was a monarchist. Anyone remember seeing this? I can't find it online. (*note: around 40% of Canadian TV is from the US so I don't know where it came from.)
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Sunday, 3 January 2016 02:55 (eight years ago) link
what if it was a weird canada-only interview where he misunderstood the relationship to the queen and was trying to ingratiate himself
― μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link
http://www.clickhole.com/theysaidwhat/find-out-what-george-lucas-john-cena-and-helen-mir-3755?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook
― how's life, Monday, 4 January 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link
"Mm." - George Lucas
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
?utm_campaign=default&utm_medium=ShareTools&utm_source=facebook
― glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 4 January 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link
thinking about jedis and luke: how lame is it that for the prequels, apart from all the other blandifications of the jedi (huge centralized bureaucracy rather than a bunch of independent guardians of peace and justice, etc etc), he insisted on giving them all obi-wan's desert robes from the first film, rather than luke's BADASS black outfit from ROTJ? it had always just been obvious to me: the jedi are returning, and this is what they wear. vader's look is like a corrupted jedi outfit, dark side, cool. ugggghghhhhhhhhh.
― yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link
Good point, but Yoda wore beige robes in the OT as well. It's inconsistent.
― how's life, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
As did Ghost Anakin (OG version).
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3S2auEHR4rg/hqdefault.jpg
Luke dresses differently because he is different, at least until he confronts Vader and the Emperor. The first thing we see him do in ROTJ is force-choke one of Jabba's guards, which is decidedly not a light-side thing to do.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
That black outfit made a big impact on me as a kid (also loved the Luke in black/stormtroopers in white imagery).
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
yeah okay good point with the force ghosts. but still, man, you imagine a world where the jedis are still around, fighting the CLONE WARS, and idk it always seemed more like black-outfit luke being awesome on the ROTJ poster. maybe this is just because of ROTJ's fumbling script failing to establish what luke's actual moral arc is in that film. but i lived for years with a pretty clear, kick-ass vision in my head and then it was just a bunch of sluggish people shuffling around in robes insisting that it was inappropriate for them to do anything or act on any information.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
the cloak and robes are a jedi order thing, we just don't really see jedi outside the order in any of the prequels because they're such an orthodoxy
that's why the jedi fell, all that restrictive, inflexible orthodoxy that forced them to wear bad clothes
― mh, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
We did have at least one non-robed Jedi in the prequels:
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23700000/Jedi-Master-star-wars-jedi-23758068-397-500.jpg
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
And this dude dressed more like a Tolkein LARPer
https://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/0/8572/338543-ki_adi_mundi.jpg
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
Here we have the Met Gala version of Jedi robes.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149056/4448465-barriss+offee.jpg
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
Many, many years ago, on this thread, DJP in a previous life said this:
You know, they could have played the Ewoks exactly as they did and no one would have complained if they'd added scenes with them eating the fallen Stormtrooper clones.― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:35 PM
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:35 PM
And now the dream is true, kinda.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/leia-tries-to-stop-ewoks-from-consuming-human-flesh-in-1819977244
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 October 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
This is glorious.
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 30 October 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
star wars prequels: most embarrassing and hacky attempt at fan-service and plot resolution
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
seeing this thread revive and its title provoked different thoughts than usual
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
Also: never forget how Lucas, Spielberg, and Kasdan initially conceptualized Marion Ravenwood in early brainstorming sessions for RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. pic.twitter.com/JiQUOwBrWT— Kate Hagen (@thathagengrrl) April 4, 2018
― Orwonty Nelson (latebloomer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
― alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
And her saying "i was a *child*" is still in the movie!
― piscesx, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
there was a pdf of the whole conversation doing the rounds a while back and there’s some pretty gross stuff in there iirc
― star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
Mmhm yeah, it's being taken apart on Twitter line by line as we speak
https://moedred.livejournal.com/2009/03/04/
― piscesx, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link
"it was wrong and you knew it!"
― omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
Turned out a number of friends hadn't heard about that before so I'm glad it is making the rounds again.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link
spielberg was a big fan of the racism as i recall
― adam the (abanana), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
1978 was before the '90s iirc
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/lVWMYk8.png
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
you think that's bad? this thread came into being in 2009
― alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link
"He should have a mentor in this. Somebody you never see, but he refers to from time to time, somebody you want to see. The man who taught him everything. The man who gave him whatever power he has now. Maybe some supreme archeologist who's maybe ninety years old like Max Von Sydow, and is dying now."
Maybe they're just really bad at estimating ages.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link
"when they open the Ark all the animals should come out, marching together as couples, and they move slowly through the crowd of Nazis, devouring them or masticating them or crushing them, whatever power they possess will be unleashed. Indy and Marion will be untied by a pair of raccoons, since they're good with their hands or rather paws."
― omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
The 70s was a real weird time for a lot of age-of-consent pushing, huh
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty sure this has come up on ILX before, possibly on a thread not about crimes from the '90s
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link
hey man if you want to create a “crimes of george lucas (pre 1990)” thread, have at it
― alvin noto (mh), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link
Imagine sic in a book group; someone saying 'on page 50', and he's like 'actually, if you include the publisher's imprint and title page THAT'S PAGE 54!'
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link
the naive days when we thought the worst of george’s crimes were creating prequels and re-editing decades-old films
― alvin noto (mh), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
As far as I've seen, these are the first specifics George Lucas has shared about what his vision of Episodes 7-9 would have been. This comes from @insighteditions awesome companion book to "James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction series" on AMC: pic.twitter.com/Wtlw8zlrqv— Livio Ramondelli (@LivioRamondelli) June 12, 2018
wow george, that really would have been something.
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Micronauts-1.jpg/250px-Micronauts-1.jpg
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
I think Lucas was only able to make the prequels because he didn't work consistently enough after SW for the world to realize how bad his ideas are.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link
Like I'm convinced that a Lucas who was productive through the '80s and '90s would've decisively burned up all of his capital a la Shyamalan.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
If the Force is powered by the Whills, the Sith must be powered by the Whonts.
I read that post hearing the voice from Patton Oswalt's routine about time-travelling to kill Lucas pre-prequels.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
lmao ‘this story would have been shit and everyone would have hated it but at least it would have been complete’
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
“I regret not getting to stink up that public restroom like I intended to”
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
the best creative ethos
― mh, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
http://500daysasunder.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/screen-shot-2012-10-11-at-2-05-27-pm-e1349978764535.png?w=694what you talking about, whills?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
tbf to lucas though at least he had a new idea for the series even if it was terrible - i don’t get much of a sense that disney have much interest in doing something innovative
― CARL MARKS PRINCIPAL INVESTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
gee really
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
dunno what could've given you that impression, was it the trailer for Tim Burton's live action Dumbo?
Disney stopped being concerned with innovation about 15 years ago
lol sparkle motion
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
would rather see microbe wars than Star Wars The Regurgitated Jedi
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/940/mockingspongebobbb.jpg
― Eliza D., Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
So if I'm connecting the dots correctly, Lucas's original idea for episode VII was tweaked to remove all SW references and ultimately filmed as
http://oneguyrambling.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/216033.1020.A-202x300.jpg
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link
When Is Someone Gonna Make A Sci-Fi Show Or Movie Without Any People In Them?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link
i mean the original draft for star wars was called journal of the whills or something, right? but if those microbiotic creatures are supposedly operate differently than us, what use would they have for journals?
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
they weren't microbes thenthe great thing about those embryonic SW versions is how they are really just these collections of cool evocative names and titles with the actual story and character matter unstable as fuck. i love that.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
It was triumph not journals iirc
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
It's almost, almost, as if Lucas considers storytelling to be the least important element of telling a story.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
which can be totally awesome! if only he had the boldness to make truly ornamental/ambient SF in that mode
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
I agree! I wish he could've realized his strengths and played to them more.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
just edit the prequel trilogy to just the cutscenes and i think you'd have it.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
"This is the story of Mace Windy, a revered Jedi-bendu of Ophuchi, as related to us by C.J. Thorpe, padawan learner to the famed Jedi."
Cool and evocative names, eh?
― Number None, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
"ophuchi" sounds like something you'd hear this guy blabbering
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/Cornholion_in_Holy_Cornholio.jpg/250px-Cornholion_in_Holy_Cornholio.jpg
― Eliza D., Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
I assume it's a fuckup of Ophiuchi, an actual constellation
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 15 June 2018 02:28 (five years ago) link
lol wins
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Friday, 15 June 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link
padawan learner to the famed Jedi
this is a cool turn of phrase
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 15 June 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
just found out about this:
On the set of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Lucas shared his ideas with animation director Rob Coleman, when Coleman arrived for his first day. As Chris Taylor relates in his fantastic book How Star Wars Conquered the Universe, Lucas told Coleman “his ultimate framing device.” Taylor writes:“The entire story of Star Wars is actually being recounted to the keeper of the Journal of the Whills—remember that?—a hundred years after the events of Return of the Jedi by none other than R2-D2.”
“The entire story of Star Wars is actually being recounted to the keeper of the Journal of the Whills—remember that?—a hundred years after the events of Return of the Jedi by none other than R2-D2.”
i do not remember that btw
― omar little, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
lmao
r2d2 just beepin' and bloopin' for hours at a time to some low-level functionary who needs to keep stopping him because his wrist is getting tired from writing in the journal with a space fountain pen
― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
Is r2d2 a reliable narrator? This now makes me suspicious of the endless # of scenes where r2d2 slides up and coolly saves the day while everyone else is panicking like idiots...
― One Eye Open, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
It would certainly explain the gratuitous number of hardcore droid-on-droid scenes so liberally sprinkled throughout the series.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
lol journal of the whills only mentioned in a couple of novelizations
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
Only too late does the journal keeper realize R2 was Darth Sidious all along
https://media.giphy.com/media/Z8uqXqZaNT4n6/giphy.gif
― jmm, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link
Damn it, should have double-checked that gif
― jmm, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
nah that gif seems v thread-appropriate tbh
― kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
That cup is where he keeps his whill
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link
Not directly SW related but this is the most relevant thread I can find: The redlettermedia review of the latest Marvel movie calls Brie Larson a virtue-signalling, sexist, racist bitch for saying that most movie critics are white men. The critics of the Plinkett reviews were right -- they are awful people.
― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
Not surprised.
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link
Few phrases are as inadvertently self-descriptive as 'virtue-signalling' (see also: 'social justice warrior' as a pejorative). Like when you start to casually malign aspirational behavior I think you technically qualify for villain status.
― Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
I have zero reason to watch the narrative video version of clickbait that passes for commentary on youtube
a few years ago I watched a few short clips doing that sort of thing and it was entertaining as a one-off novelty but everything's gone down the path of "this movie is a failure because it has a political agenda" or "top ten plot holes!" where a plot hole is anything that has an implied offscreen action that wasn't spoon-fed to the viewers
― mh, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
I just saw a 'May the Fourth be With You' sign in the window of a funeral directors.
― just another country (snoball), Sunday, 5 May 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:58 (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:58 (eight years ago)
^^^ you're not the only one... (NSFW obviously)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-drxdYedUU
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link