The Lysergic Acid Diethylamidiotic Joe Biden & Sarah Palin VP Presidential Debate thread in the 2 zero zero 8 (2008 party over oops)

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No rebuttals? lol

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 18:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Needs shorter thread title.

Aimless, Monday, 29 September 2008 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol fdr went on tv during the great depression lol

eman, Monday, 29 September 2008 18:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

suggestions for drinking game words plz

wassila
putin
FDR

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 29 September 2008 19:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

no drinking. that's in "take a tab" for every...

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

"literally"

jaymc, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Because I want all of you to be brain damaged for life after this debate because due to the nature of the debate, that's inevitable anyway

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Symmetry required...

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Where is Z S?

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Great, now this'll be 600 posts before the debate even happens.

Important Tactic: DON'T Let Bartlett Be Bartlett. Nobody will be watching Biden unless he says something idiotic, and Palin can beat herself; he just needs to show up and say words no one will remember.

nabisco, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

I will be doing a series of ritual spirit-dances to keep Biden from saying anything dumb, and I hope you will all join me.

nabisco, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

dude's gonna gaffe big time, i can feel it

eman, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha, like it isn't already 1000+ before the debate on another thread

nabisco, learn us the ritual dance

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

re Vogue cover: Palin looks like Tina Fey imitating Kate Bush.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

You kinda shuffle around like a Welsh miner, then mime washing your face and mouth area to make yourself clean and articulate, and then you do sort of a Rooseveltian wheelchair motion

nabisco, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080924200720AADwLMH

eman, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

"john stuart"

dell, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

i can't wait for sarah palin to coherently explain the official republican position on the bailout plan.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's a Journey: Escape - The Video Game quality to the dancing Putin.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have class on thursday night ;_________;

Mr. Que, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

wassila
putin
FDR

Don't forget "mavericks" -- because although it seems that Palin knows nothing of McCain's legislative record or his views on any given subject, she does know that he's a maverick.

Nicole, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha, I'll be at the second MBV show in L.A. Thursday night.

I think Ned said on another thread that the debate should be the visual backdrop for the You Made Me Realise bridge.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

GUYS IS THIS GOING TO PRE-EMPT THE OFFICE Y/N?!?!?

metametadata (n/a), Monday, 29 September 2008 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

x-post -- It'll be at the same level of coherency.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Y :(

Jordan, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

just pretend it's the office

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gm 2 LAD @ CHC Thu Oct. 2 - 9:30 PM - TBS

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha, I'll be at the second MBV show in L.A. Thursday night.

I think Ned said on another thread that the debate should be the visual backdrop for the You Made Me Realise bridge.

so it's up to an ocd cross between "the dude" in the big lebowski and brian wilson to save the world? hey, i guess difficult times call for extreme measures...

dell, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have an anatomy test the next morning >:(

the valves of houston (gbx), Monday, 29 September 2008 19:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

She does have a Betty Rubble vibe.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/09/bedrock.php

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

I forget who said it and what thread but the "how can someone be so feverish for drilling for fossil fuels not believe in fossils?" line was ace.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost

yeah, but she somehow manages to combine the obnoxiousness and ethics of barney rubble mated with mr. slate.

it's like a fruity pebbles commercial bursting over into "real life" in a particularly sinister fashion

dell, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin talks cheesesteak, Pakistan

From CNN.com

...with a T-shirt logo next to it.

heavens ;-)

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 29 September 2008 19:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/30/mccain-palin-the-next-clinton-or-reagan/

OK, article whatever. It's all about the picture of Palin, as Liquid Metal Android.

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

and what, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

am0n, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol rumor

1. Biden savages Sarah in Thurs night's reality show
2. takes heat for being mean
3. steps aside for HillRod

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha wau, that would be mind-melting

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

countdown to the "PALIN COMPARISON TO BIDEN" punster headlines

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 20:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

eat a sugar cookie every time Palin thanks Gwen Ifill for asking a question, like:

"i'm so glad you asked that, gwen, because it's a very important question"
"you know, that's a very difficult issue that a lot of voters are concerned about so thanks for bringing that up"
"gwen! good question! yeah... it's a good one."

etc etc

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gwen Ifill is this one's moderator? Please tell me Ray Suarez is doing Bam McC #2 so all of America can snore as one.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

What, you're not calling him Ray Sueno?

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Brokaw's doing #2.

jaymc, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

snoring plan works just as well, then

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

"lol rumor

1. Biden savages Sarah in Thurs night's reality show
2. takes heat for being mean
3. steps aside for HillRod"

Haha I thought Bill Safire retired.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

The other rumour involves Biden out due to health problems; obv pure prjection.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 21:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Then there's this -- but this would be next week, more's the pity:

http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/30/troopergate-witness-flips-like-a-pancake/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gwen Ifill Breaks Ankle, But Still Plans To Meet 'Em In St. Louis

G Ifill.jpg First On TVNewser: PBS' Gwen Ifill has broken her ankle after tripping and falling down stairs at her home last night, a NewsHour insider tells TVNewser. We're told Ifill had been walking up a staircase, carrying research related to her moderating duties at Thursday's Vice Presidential debate in St. Louis, when she took a wrong step.

We are also told the show will go on: Ifill is planning to travel to Missouri for the big event.

and what, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

never forget 10/10

alas ka

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

eat a sugar cookie every time Palin thanks Gwen Ifill for asking a question

i am going to put on at least five pounds

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 23:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

anybody know where i can buy some moose paté?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 23:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1001/p09s01-coop.html

polyphonic, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 23:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

If she pulls out the maverick line I'd like to see Biden be like "And I'm... the ice man" and snap his big dentures shut threateningly like Val Kilmer does in that locker room scene.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 23:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 23:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg i found it --- at 1:45 in:

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

that is the most amazing video i've seen in awhile.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this — to stay informed and to understand the world?

PALIN: I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media —

COURIC: But what ones specifically? I’m curious.

PALIN: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.

COURIC: Can you name any of them?

PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news.

goole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 00:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Goddammit, I have to be in my first class of the term that night. I was so looking forward to yelling at the screen with a full theater of drunks.

I may have to skip out.

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 01:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I know this is mostly reverse psychology, but I'm guessing Palin's not going to be nearly as trainwrecky as before for the debate. I expect her to be more with it, disappointing many and making all the Dems worry again -- even though it will be yet another temporary bounce.

because remember

10/10

Never forget.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 03:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

making all the Dems worry again

I wouldn't go that far.

ian, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 03:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh soooo many Dems are going to worry if Palin isn't a disaster after the debate. come on.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 03:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean, the worries will go away once October gets into gear, but there's likely gonna be worryin' if Palin doesn't melt down.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 03:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

(oops sorry for the kinda double post)

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 03:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

remember when everyone was worried abt the McCain bump right after the RNC & Palin's nomination? lol

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 04:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

"music video by chakilmame"

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 04:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/29/conservatives.palin/index.html

The adviser said preparing her for the debate was "really hard" because the Alaska governor was learning about issues she had never dealt with before -- including those regarding North Korea and other hot spots around the globe.

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 06:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh yeah and

In defense, Republicans say the complaints are coming from "intellectual" conservatives -- not Main Street Republicans, who they insist love the "hockey mom," from Alaska, as Palin describes herself.

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 06:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

"McCain picked Sarah Palin in part because she's a talented politician and communicator. He needs to free her to use her political talents and to communicate in her own voice," Kristol wrote.""

Guess it's time for the Times' weekly Kristol fact correction.

i, grey, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 07:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

hopefully dogers v. cubs is done before this starts!!!

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 08:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Then there's this -- but this would be next week, more's the pity:

http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/30/troopergate-witness-flips-like-a-pancake/

Why is there no Dan Lacey - Palin with Pancake picture in the comments to that yet?

Christopher Blix Hammer (Ed), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 08:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Main Street, featuring McCain's long-lost 8th house, or "castle" as it is sometimes known.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 11:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

You folks are really underestimating Joe's ability to come off like an asshole.

The ballgame is at 9:30 ET, gr80.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 13:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh soooo many Dems are going to worry if Palin isn't a disaster after the debate. come on.

Aside from breaking into glossolalia or audibly farting on stage, what on earth could she possibly do for our cowardly media to do anything other than say she "exceeded expectations" after the debate?

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 13:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh noes VP debate moderator is biased:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76645

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 13:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't think the issue is exceeding expectations anymore.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 13:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I have an ominous feeling that the left blogosphere and skeptical mainstream media have already been high-fiving each other about how awful she's going to be without considering that precisely what they hate about her is what those who like her find charming- everyone's hastily assuming that if she's an idiot this can only help the Dem side. But if Biden is belligerent and Palin never cracks her "everymom" mask, it could solidify the undecideds against the Dem ticket. Dems have a history of seeming "smug" and losing people even as they "win" debates, and this one is awfully easy to win in the wrong way.

Drew Daniel, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Most of the newspapers have lead with warnings already, so I think the Dems got the message.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was about to say, it's not that there's no talk about it!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Apparently she was in 23 debates in the Alaskan election and went on to win so she can't be that bad at it. If she makes no major gaffes there will be "Palin Does Surprisingly Well" headlines next day and it will be a "win" for her. But in the end it won't make any difference since VP debates don't really matter. The most famous quip from a VP debate is the "You're no Jack Kennedy" one, and yet Bush/Quayle went on to win.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Apparently she was in 23 debates in the Alaskan election and went on to win so she can't be that bad at it.

Mmmm, there's an awful lot of assumptions to unpack there.

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, all I'm suggesting is that she's used to the format and did well enough in it not to ruin her chances of winning a state election. At this point, she only has to be OK for it to be a "win".

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

A good read is here:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palindebate1-2008oct01,0,113995.story

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

god what a jerk:

Palin saved her most devastating riposte for the final question of the debate, when Persily asked the three candidates whether they would hire their opponents for a state job.

Knowles and Halcro offered halting jokes. But when it was Palin's turn, she pounced.

Smiling at Halcro, who recited reams of statistics by rote, Palin observed that the businessman "would make the most awesome statistician the state could ever look for."

As the debate audience laughed, Palin pivoted to Knowles, who had owned an Anchorage restaurant. "Do they need a chef down in Juneau?" Palin asked, smiling as she twisted the verbal knife. "I know Mr. Knowles is really good at that."

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

What that tells me is that if she tried that approach against Biden -- and there's no reason why not, really -- then it's open season in return. Which could have the effect of it being a draw.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

totally get where you're coming from, dr drew, but speaking for myself, while i expect biden to win handily, i'm really just looking forward to the debate for pure entertainment value (secretly expecting the holy spirit to descend upon sarah palin to give her the gift of tongues). It's a long debate and there's plenty of time for both biden and palin to say some really dumb shit, fucking blabbermouths they both are -- and I think that while Biden will be able to point out palin's gaffes, Palin simply won't be able to do the same in return.

And while yes, palin's had some debate experience, she's never debated in front of a national audience -- and the momentary reaction to the debate doesn't matter quite as much as the days following, the aftermath during which everything she said will be parsed and researched and her worst moments will be replayed ad nauseam

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

it will be interesting to compare palin's debate performance with those couric interviews. everything i've read suggests that "palin is not as bad as you think she is" at debating and don't underestimate her, etc. etc. But i don't have to tell y'all that goddamn she looks like a deer in headlights in those Couric interviews. so what's the variable between a debate and an interview?

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd like to see Joe Biden on TV!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Should we place odds on her making some "LOL old/senator when i was in 2nd grade" joeks?

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

this Jay Nordliger douche is making The Corner fantastic reading lately:

Years ago, some Bolshi Democrat — I think it was Ron Dellums — was rising to some important committee position. And Henry Hyde was asked, by some righty (no doubt), “Don’t you think he’s a security risk?” And Hyde answered blithely, “No more than any other Democrat.” (I am paraphrasing — but am very close.)

McCarthyite? Funny? Resigned?

Anyway . . . I’ve thought of Hyde’s remark this morning. People say, “Well, isn’t Gwen Ifill pro-Obama?” And the answer is: “If she is, is she more so than any other suitable MSM big?”

At any rate — no pouting or fretting. Play on

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Exceeding expectations won't be good enough for the liberal media elite when expectations are this low. She's running for de facto president, not chair of the PTA.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

the tricky thing with Palin is that she is simultaneously intentionally avoiding answering questions with any specifics to avoid making mistakes (or letting on what a fundie nutjob she is/leaving the widest possible room for fundie nutjobs to be sure she's one of them) and helplessly not getting the substance of issues she knows or cares nothing about, and at the margin it's a little tough to figure out which is which

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

But i don't have to tell y'all that goddamn she looks like a deer in headlights in those Couric interviews.

She does, but check out the Alaska debates on YouTube. She doesn't seem nearly as bad. I doubt if the Couric interview is a good measure of her debating abilities.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

the best-case scenario in my mind is biden restraining himself, answering questions genially and calmly, and letting palin zing away without having anything substantive to say

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

She does, but check out the Alaska debates on YouTube. She doesn't seem nearly as bad

the issues, personalities and audience in Alaska present a far lower bar

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

the best-case scenario in my mind is biden restraining himself, answering questions genially and calmly, and letting palin zing away without having anything substantive to say

You realize that this scenario is actually a win for Palin, right?

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think the theory there, Dan, is that Palin won't be able to answer basic questions and will hang herself.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

But the practice is that the more you allow her to not actually answer questions, the better she comes across.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think Biden needs to 1) avoid any obvious gaffes and 2) avoid coming off overly aggressive/dismissive of Palin. If he does those two things he can't lose and at this point that's all they need.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

I kind of want Biden to keep being super Biden-y, gaffes and all; I don't think Palin is used to dealing with people anywhere near as comfortable in that zone of affable approachable batshittery as she is and the reaction to someone encroaching on what should be her turf has great potential to throw her off her game (IMO).

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

If nothing else, a more entertaining debate than Bush/Ferraro 1984, I'm sure.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mainly just think he needs to not get overly combative with Palin. Palin will set her own traps and step in them. Biden just needs to look competent.

Everything is Highlighted (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

did anyone catch 41 and Gerry Ferraro on "The Today Show" this morning?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

I actually think it will be fairly dull, because they are both going to try to play it safe and Palin's responses should be scripted enough to avoid the kind of nonsense she spewed during the Couric/Gibson interviews. If there are any questions she doesn't have a script for though, it could get mighty entertaining, but that'll only be for a second or two before she pulls the question back around to something she can talk to.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

That said I'm still going to watch just on the off chance of hilarity.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

did anyone catch 41 and Gerry Ferraro on "The Today Show" this morning?

I saw parts of it; I was running late for work. Gerry is still kind of mad about Hillary.

Joe Kennedy, OTOH, remains kind of awesome in a crazy drunk uncle way.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Another piece from Halcro:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1001/p09s01-coop.html

Dude's been busy. Rightfully so, though.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden needs to look Vice-Presidential, with a good dose of geniality and some memorable righteous anger about the economy thrown in

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

so basically doing nabisco's biden-no-gaffes raindance - pretending to be Jamie Noble

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Debate preview:

Palin: [generic non-answer]
Biden: Was I the only one listening? I thought it reeked!
Palin: No, I believe that's your old man smell lol!!!!!!!!alaska

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw I expect Palin to "win"

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

u guys pailin is totally gonna make some awesome blunders - GET PSYCHED!

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

"what do you talk about when you have nothing to say?" = a good line

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

battle of blunderdome

eman, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 15:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

you guys i'm sooooo worried that the dems are gonna go at this with total hubris (which is sooo them in this election!) and not pay any attention to the judgment of informed people, while palin will impress people by gaining steam over an hour even though she can't seem to say three words without scaring away independent voters. Based on the last month, I have SO MUCH MORE FAITH in the McCain/Palin campaign playing this smartly than the dems.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

I get the fear/pessimism, but "based on the last month"?

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is gonna be fucking painful viewing. i'm really torn on whether to watch it with a crowd or just stay home with the volume really low.

in any case, biden i think needs to come off like a knowledgable and patient adult, basically treat it like a conversation with gwen ifill, and some other nitwit showed up and decided to say something.

any word on the physical layout? are they going to be sitting next to each other across a desk from ifill?

goole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I get the fear/pessimism, but "based on the last month"?

Think it through, caek.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

head hurts.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh yes.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

v. good.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

If Palin turns out to be a Flowers For Algernon type, this would be the best result of them all, just for the general wtf

xp croup - see we can lol now because a lot of Dems WILL worry anyway, even though whatever possible zings and poll bumps Palin/McCain (come on, that's really the ticket, right?) gain, they will decay pretty quickly even well before all those Alaskan death trials to come on Oct 10th.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

alternately, I hope Palin totally goes lil Jon.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

and U+K lil Jon Palin photoshop kthxby

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

any word on the physical layout? are they going to be sitting next to each other across a desk from ifill?

Lecterns this time.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think Palin will do the zingers but she may become emboldened and go just that little bit to far. I think she has more hubris than all the other candidates put together.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

(xpost) I think Palin has a win by default, frankly, because she's already more about personality and symbolism than qualifications to people who like her, and people who don't have such abysmal expectations that she can't do much damage. Damage control is the key here.

in any case, biden i think needs to come off like a knowledgable and patient adult, basically treat it like a conversation with gwen ifill, and some other nitwit showed up and decided to say something.

This is pretty OTM. And I think it has to be watched in drinking game mode or it will be too painful.

Maria, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

I usually find Rich Lowry the least repulsive of all the Corner folks, but WTF

Of course, Palin has a lot to bone up on, and there will probably be, even in the best of circumstances, a few things she doesn't know. That's why she needs a straight-forward and/or self-deprecating way to occasionally say, "I don't know." People will be much more forgiving of that than round-about and very transparent attempts to try to talk her way through it, which are much more discrediting. Her potential ace-in-the-hole, of course, is Joe Biden. He'll very likely find a way to be an ass, whether he's confronting her or deferring to her.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's okay to call the Democratic VP nominee an ass now, guys, FYI

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's only a win for the repubs if they can actually get a bounce, and right now Palin is the least popular of any pres/vp candidate. LEAST. Why do people keep pushing how popular she is? She has a loud fanbase but it's not getting bigger. There is NO REASON to believe more exposure to her will change this. A lack of faith in Biden rocking shit is one thing, but this faith in the repubs to change the game after all that's happened is something can't begin to fathom.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

you all are giving the exceeding expectations factor waaay to much credence here. every time palin has opened her mouth shes told a really obvious lie and/or said something undeniably retarded. theres no reason to believe shell be anything other than awful in this debate.

i mean john mccain already "suspended his campaign" just trying to avoid this shit.

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

"She needs to admit her ignorance!"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Based on all the ph3ar, it seems Biden is going to lose no matter what he does just because he's older and wittier.

I mean what the fuck is wrong with the US? (I know right?)

Also, even when she waffles, Palin has proven to be a very good and subtle liar. This works for Palin on TV, so this is where Biden's performance really matters re: how he will find a way to call her out on her lies. This debate, whether fair or not, is for Biden to lose.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok what sort of crazy parallel dimension did u just arrive from

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

She has NOT been a good and subtle liar. Even if you didn't know she was lying when interviewed by Couric, she was shifty, her grammar awful. She sounded like someone caught.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

based on how her favorability rating has plummeted from like +30 to -10 since her nomination its likely that she hasnt been doing anything well

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think she has, at base, the non-oily appeal and generator of warm feelings that Mitt Romney has.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Granholm is Palin's stand-in in the debate prep -- and although Granholm is a fairly incompetent governor, I wonder if they will really be able to simulate Palin's dunderheadedness adequately enough to truly prepare Biden.

Nicole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

She's pretty base.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

If Granholm just waves the red flag any time he gets near a phrase like "little lady," he'll be fine.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok what sort of crazy parallel dimension did u just arrive from

There are too many crazy parallel dimensions across the country in this election.

I mean how many "I think McCain's ok, but i REALLY LIKE PALIN OMG!" bursts on TV does it take to get that across? Granted, I don't make it clear which parallel universe POV I speak from disingenuously.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think you'd feel better if you were paying more attention.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Man, shoulda just gotten Tina Fey to be the stand-in, go for broke.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin = Boris Johnson?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty confident the Dems have this election, so I'm not all Scanners about this, but don't say I'm not paying attention. There are plenty of people who can outvote me in numbers who are *not* paying attention who are SMITTEN with Palin. This election will likely not be a stampede, even if all polls indicate so.

I'm kinda ignoring polls right now, because polls are less and less accurate as the years go by since they still used the land-line standard.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

maybe you should take massive drops in Palin's popularity in polls with a grain of salt rather than ignoring them and freaking out every time you see a fundie wacko yell.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

She has a loud fanbase but it's not getting bigger. There is NO REASON to believe more exposure to her will change this.

The concern is not that people will like her more, it's that they will like Biden and hence the Democrats less.

mitya, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

hahaha ned yes

Maria, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin. Which is what it would take for America to like him less than Palin after she's spoken for an hour.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think we're in an xp helix here, but again, I'm speaking in context of the debate.

I don't think the VP debate will be nearly as exciting or damaging to Palin as most people think. That's all I'm saying. Maybe Palin will melt down. Entirely possible. It's entirely possible Biden will be a total asshole and Palin will shine too.

Who the fuck cares in the end anyway. There isn't much precedent for VP debates changing things.

Palin's popularity is just likely to inch up again, after which a lot of democrats most of which are NOT ON ILX will freak out, that's all I'm claiming.

But that will again be temporary once October gets into gear, when half of the Alaska GOP is thinking about life in a cold dark cell then.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Shit, Granholm, why didn't you tell him it was bad idea to yell 'LOOK AT DEM PUPPIES!' at her?"

"I thought it was a good tactic. D'oh, we done bad!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

because polls are less and less accurate as the years go by since they still used the land-line standard.

Many but not all:

Riverdale Park, Md.: Which pollsters are being the most creative at tackling the problem of the under-35s being "cell-phone only," and thus hard to reach?

Charles Franklin: A number of pollsters have been including cell only folks for most of the year. Gallup, Pew, CBS/NYT, NBC/WSJ and I think Time. Field in California does as well. It is going to be increasingly common.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Charles Franklin is with Pollster.com.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think election polls will be twittered before they get to the cell-phone stage, frankly.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

("just got asked about election. I said I think the erection is alright, lol." - oct 29, 2012)

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 16:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like how everyone who is shouting "pay attention!" is conveniently ignoring that Palin did pretty much exactly the same thing in the Alaskan gubernatorial race as she's doing here and that she won that race.

I don't expect her to be particularly impressive or convincing to ME but I've already decided who I'm voting for. Clearly there is still a non-negligible segment of people who aren't convinced by Obama and I don't want a fluffy performance from Palin in the debate to make people feel better about deciding to vote for the crazy old white man.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

speaking of crazy old white men

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

haw

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

if this debate follows the open-ended format of the presidential debate i think palin's going to get away with murder - it's hard to imagine ifill doing couric-style followup questions

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

and without those followup questions it's not as easy to see clearly the extent to which she avoids the subject

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

guys Palin is completely incompetent all this hand-wringing is silly

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

who would you rather have a beer with? i think biden would be a hoot

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

guys Palin is completely incompetent all this hand-wringing is silly

Yeah because completely incompetent people never get jobs that they can't do. oh WAIT...

Characterizing speculation about what strategy would be most effective against Palin as "hand-wringing" is even sillier, IMO.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden would be name-dropping second-tier middle eastern arms dealers while getting up out of his big easy chair for another one, fart, and not even laugh about it because he had just worked around to his main point

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought it had already been pretty well-established what the best strategy for Biden is: remain calm, don't pounce on any of Palin's gaffes, target McCain

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think palin's going to get away with murder

^^^handwringing

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think "don't pounce on any of Palin's gaffes" is a huge huge huge mistake.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden doesn't need to, it will just make him look aggressive. The press will do his work for him.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

and also yeah this is just a sideshow - no matter what happens it isn't gonna move polls/votes very far either way

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

if the debate turns out like couric interview itll hurt mccain

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden doesn't need to, it will just make him look aggressive. The press will do his work for him.

I'm leaning towards this opinion. The press is running hard with the "you've got to be fucking KIDDING me" narrative re: Palin. I think Biden should debate McCain in absentia rather than engage much with her.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

without those followup questions it's not as easy to see clearly the extent to which she avoids the subject

I dunno about this, actually: one of the secret treats of Palin is that even people who know nothing about the issues -- and have no framework for judging whether she's right or wrong or batshit crazy about something -- nevertheless know perfectly well the tone and mannerisms of someone who has no idea what she's doing; everyone's used the metaphor of a middle-schooler doing a book report but he hasn't read the freaking book, and it's true, there are times when you can just hear this in Palin's voice and see it in her eyes, and nobody likes that. So sure, if she's prepped well enough to sound convinced and authoritative about anything she says, maybe she'll be fine -- but if she starts bluffing again, it seems like people can tell that whether or not they're even evaluating the content of what she's saying.

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also yes, this is a total Palin-evaluating show, Biden just needs to sit back politely and say "this is our stance on this issue" and "I'm very glad for the opportunity to talk with Governor Palin" and not attempt any extemporaneous zingers WHATSOEVER. Just stand there and look competent and state the obvious.

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol why don't Democrats like to take people out?

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden should zing away because i love zings and he is one of our preeminent political practitioners of the art

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

from a strategic standpoint he should pick his zing spots so as not seem like a total jerk but not totally abandon zings as a palin flub followed by a sweet biden zing would play well on the tv indeed

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Final votes:

Biden should zing 12
Biden should ignore Palin 11
Biden should lick his paws 9

Lock thread, plz

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

ew, ban 9 ppl

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think re: the zings he should be a total gent and let her zing first...and then be all 'here's one I made earlier...when you were in eigth grade.', emphasising that age and experience is a-okay when not accompanied by anger management issue plus nostalgia for both a lost war and a reflexive, hankering prestalgia for all Viagra-substitute violence to come.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Argh, typos...internet connection teeteringly precarious...

jane hussein lane (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm leaning towards this opinion. The press is running hard with the "you've got to be fucking KIDDING me" narrative re: Palin. I think Biden should debate McCain in absentia rather than engage much with her.

^^ i'm inclined to agree with this but still a little concerned that the debate format is going to allow her to ramble nonsensically but oh so neighborly and directly to her base, without Couric there to cattle prod her back to the question at hand.

of course, if you are someone who's ok with this woman being the next-in-line leader of the free world, i suppose there's not much she could do to shake that kind of misplaced confidence

flyover statesman (will), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe six pack (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

and then be all 'here's one I made earlier...when you were in eigth grade.'

Yeah no. Biden coming off like a petty McCain-esque crank isn't going to cut the mustard -- hell, McCain managed to play the "lol old I mean experienced" card w/ more elan than that in the first debate (when he wasn't whining about Obama's supposed ignorance and inexperience).

David R., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

wtf "without Katie Couric to prod her" like Gwen Ifill is some slouch who doesn't know how to moderate, she moderates discussions every fucking day doesn't she?? i know Palin makes Couric look like Murrow but come on, there is a reason we have a moderator

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

if he totally ignores her, he'll look condescending and rude, though.

Maria, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg just like mean old mr. mccain was to obama

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's a difference between moderating a debate and conducting an interview. Gwen is under no obligation to point out fallacies, lies or inconsistencies in Palin's statements; that's Biden's job.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden's already said he won't patronize Palin like 'John did to Barack'. His timbre of voice doesn't lend itself to pettiness, so I think Dave's overreacting to that bit whilst overlooking the rest of the post because whatever else, Biden hasn't got any sense of entitlement and tends to come off as self-deprecating in his humour.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

absolutely -- but ifill's well within her role to reiterate the question if it isn't answered (the way Lehrer did, but hopefully being less of an asshole about it)

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

wtf "without Katie Couric to prod her" like Gwen Ifill is some slouch who doesn't know how to moderate, she moderates discussions every fucking day doesn't she??

wasn't meant to dis Gwen (or celebrate Couric's interrogative prowess), rather that Palin could feasibly "get away" with more with open-ended answers as opposed to point blank questions that often require yes or no answers.

flyover statesman (will), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait Lehrer was an asshole?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

i really hope they "free palin" for this debate and she comes out all sassy sarcastic mom, dodging questions and fumbling policy questions but coming back with a zinger, then all the big-haired ladies in churchland will cluck and titter and wish that sarah palin could be their pal so they could all go to chili's for cadillac margaritas together, she's a firecracker that one, yup yup

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lehrer did just fine. You just need a stooge to ask questions, keep the contestants from rambling, and avoid Charlie Gibsonisms.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

lehrer came across as a bit exasperated / nonplussed when neither offered a precise answer to what the bailout would cause them to cut from their spending plans

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

My saying "Biden shouldn't attempt extemporaneous zings" was not based on tactics, it was based on the notion that the only way Biden is going to fail here is if he says something extremely stupid that everyone spends all week analyzing, which is kinda his wont, therefore perhaps he should avoid flying off into any of the areas where he has the potential to say such things, of which "extemp zinging" is a significant territory

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost - yeah, Elmo, his reaction seemed incredibly odd to me: did he really think there was ANY way he was going to get a candidate to sell out a policy proposal in a national debate? "Remember that thing where I said we needed to invest in our children's education? We could lose that one, my heart wasn't really in it."

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

nabisco -- i understand the concern about having biden shoot his mouth off, but i think it's pretty certain that more attention will be paid to palin in the debate spin aftermath. like it or not, this is kinda her show as she is still a (relatively) unknown quantity, so everyone's going to be watching for how she does, whereas biden already has a long reputation for saying dumb things -- it's totally expected of him, and often just passed over

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

McCain/Palin can lose the election on Thursday, but they can't win it.

caek, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

the best-case scenario in my mind is biden restraining himself, answering questions genially and calmly, and letting palin zing away without having anything substantive to say

You realize that this scenario is actually a win for Palin, right?

― i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 1, 2008 10:49 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i want this to happen cause i think it feeds two stories that are advantageous to the obama campaign--1) the mccain campaign is rude, impetuous and totally lacking substance and 2) biden is a valuable steady-hand asset to the obama campaign, which is the opposite of the hasty and impulsive mccain campaign...

so far in this election ive seen little to no indication that voters are, post-convention, responding to palin's ignorance or the campaigns general attack direction the way they did with bush (whether thats because shes even dumber than he was, or because the "national mood" is no longer in favor of the uninformed, or because shes a woman, is a issue for another thread). stoic, calm steadiness has been working very well for obama's campaign so far, and the mccain campaign cant figure out what it is or what its doing except that it hates obama (and apparently the truth)

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden is a valuable steady-hand asset to the obama campaign, which is the opposite of the hasty and impulsive mccain campaign...

Um, Obama is the valuable steady-hand asset to the Obama campaign. Biden is the loose cannon!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

im not saying that as a statement of fact, im saying its an advantageous story for the media to seize on

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

have you heard Biden's gaffes in the last couple of weeks? As nabisco said, it's expected of Biden.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

i want the next days headlines to be "biden shows why he is an asset to the campagin" and "palin fast with zings but wheres the substance" instead of "biden and palin zing each other all over the place" which even if palin "loses" comes off like a draw

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

That would be a very odd story for the media to seize on considering to date it's been "lol Biden is crazy but ain't got NUTHIN' on Palin, wau"

xp, ha

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

take out "steady-hand" then its not really important to my point

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden's in a shitty position -- if he confronts her, they will try to spin him as being rude, condescending, etc. if he doesn't engage her at all, then the spin will be that this tough-talking powerhouse of a dem was rendered toothless by lil ol' sarah, everywoman

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

I hadn't heard about the Couric interview until after the Pres debate. I was watching CNN and the aftershow kept going on and on about how bad it was, how it was a disaster, etc. You would have thought she fell out of her chair or started screaming or something. And then I looked it up and yes, it was shitty, but I don't think nearly as bad as the media made it out to be. I still think she's out of her league but I don't think she's a walking timebomb, and that midwestern accent is charming and that is all most Americans are going to take away from any interview with her. She's going to have to mess up much more severely to do any damage.

Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

and no, there will be no "draw," way to hedge your bets you guys

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

You don't think it's that bad? I think it's horrifying. (xpost)

Maria, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

its weird to me that you guys are so eager to see biden unleashed when the obama debate strategy of being calm and collected paid off well in the first debate... why is this one so different?

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

palin will either 'win' (regardless of substance) for exceeding expectations or she will choke on her own twisted tongue and that will be that

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

because biden is not obama and palin is not mccain, max

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

and i don't necessarily want to see BIDEN UNLEASHED but he has to be himself to some extent, otherwise he's on the defensive and just reacting to palin, letting her dictate the tone and direction of the discussion

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

besides, joe biden speaking in public without throwing in a few clever digs at his opponent is like a day without sunshine, it's how he play

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden already has a long reputation for saying dumb things

I think this reputation is limited to the media and folks who pay attention to people like Joe Biden, not undecided voters, who may well recognize Biden's name but not know his foot-in-mouth habits well enough to find them funny or charming. It is a totally different thing is he says something problematic during a VP debate and has chatter about his gaffe overwhelm chatter about how Palin does not entirely know what she's doing/saying. So yeah, I think Biden should worry less about "beating" her and more about prodding her to beat herself (sorry, these terms sound suddenly inappropriate) -- i.e., questioning her, engaging her, making her think on her feet and fall on her own.

Re: the Couric thing, I have anecdotal evidence of multiple people who were EXCITED about Palin and, despite not having major issues-based disagreement with anything she said in that interview, came away thinking "hold on, she just says random words while she's trying to think up an answer!" -- when this sense is palpable, it's palpable to everyone regardless of politics

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

no dude, gwen ifill is dictating the tone and direction of the discussion, and biden just has to come across as smart and engaging and substantive

i get that we all want to be entertained, but for serious, chilligotthis.jpg

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

well, that's assuming that ifill even moderates the debate

It's not that the right's critique isn't utterly transparent, but media backlash was one of the principal dynamics in motivating the Palin bounce in the first place.

But there's another factor here too. In preparing for a debate, you are often preparing nearly as much for the "judge" or moderator as for the opponent. Both campaigns probably have a pretty good idea of what types of questions she is likely to ask, how he is likely to ask them. Palin and Biden have undoubtedly watched videotapes of Ifill moderating the 2004 debate between John Edwards and Dick Cheney.

By changing the moderator, you're throwing everyone a curveball, and catering to the candidate who is better able to adapt on the fly. Which, most likely, is not going to be Sarah Palin.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

via http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

i dunno max, you seem pretty invested in the idea that biden has to wear kid gloves for this

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

all respect to 538, but preparing for a specific moderator seems like a dumb idea to begin with.

All for Palin to lose, either way

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

or at least preparing for a moderator being the main focus, that is

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

doh i just posted about this in the other election thrad

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm sure they prepare for every eventuality, including the variable of 'the moderator' -- you think the campaigns leave this up to chance?

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

You alluded to the same thing above, Elmo! I mean, the entire appeal of Palin rests in her being relatable to many folks, and when people see someone they relate to being jumped on by a career politician, whose side do you think they gravitate to? (Hence, like I said, Biden's job is to assist Palin in failing, not to jump out and MAKE her fail.)

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

someone photoshop "I'll there with you" Jesus over Sarah Palin.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't mean biden has to come at her swinging -- he can afford to pull his punches, only a little bit -- but if he is seen as not engaging her at all, i think it presents a worse outcome for him

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 18:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin's "I think I was in second grade when we heard Biden say that" comment wasn't really a smart thing to say on her behalf, to put it mildly. If any memorably punch lands on Palin, this comment by her will likely be the catalyst.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think Pailn will come out OKish, but given many peoples low expectations it will be a seen as a victory.

A debate is different from an interview, she's good at debates. She doesn't debate on issues but on crowd pleasing homilies. She, like Regan, isn't a facts and stats politician.

see: http://www.alternet.org/election08/101011/i%27ve_debated_sarah_palin_more_than_20_times_--_here%27s_what_it%27s_like/

Palins announcements only really get turned into a damaging 'you tube moment' jumble when under pressure, for instance the Couric newspaper questions had to get asked three times. Go back to the other flubs and you'll see it when the question has to be repeated because she gave a non-answer.

However, in a debate you can't press like that, and it looks like Biden has been especially warned not to press.

She wont mess up if not pressed.She may give bland non answers but she wont do the really damaging stuff. Unless Biden takes the risk of looking like a bully and presses hard. He needs to especially do this if Palin goes negative like her communnity organiser comments, he absolutely needs to call her out for that, no matter how she says it with a cutesy smile and a mannered 'you know'.

One difference in the debate winning tactics is that, unlike the Alaska ones mentioned in the article linked to above, these will be replayed and re-examined. This is the first You Tube election, if she flubs in a way that wouldn't have mattered much in previous years, it will be all over the net and it will be the clip of that flub we'll all be watching over and over.

Sandy Blair, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

"all respect to 538, but preparing for a specific moderator seems like a dumb idea to begin with."

Uh no, it's a very smart idea.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

"She wont mess up if not pressed."

uh what?

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't mean biden has to come at her swinging -- he can afford to pull his punches, only a little bit -- but if he is seen as not engaging her at all, i think it presents a worse outcome for him

otm otm otm

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

He shouldn't ignore her, jeez no one is saying that.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't think Palin will let him (or anybody really) ignore her.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kathleen Parker gets letters

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I will not be . . . ignored . . ."

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I do like this part:

"Let Sarah be Sarah" has become the latest rallying cry among my colleagues on the right. She'll be fine if we just leave her alone, they say. Between prayers, I might add.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Schadenfreude:

Readers have every right to reject my opinion. But when we decide that a person is a traitor and should die for having an opinion different from one's own, we cross into territory that puts all freedoms at risk. (I hear you, Dixie Chicks.)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

He shouldn't ignore her, jeez no one is saying that.

max, Shakey and Rock Hardy all said it on this thread.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Everyone should step away from this thread, get good and hammered tomorrow night, and return.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

hello i have been sent the best gif ever

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sigh, okay no one who actually has the slightest say in how Biden might behave (or the faintest idea about how debate dynamics work) is saying that.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

JW that gif is highly offensive and is embarrassing to all americans of either party and also to me personally embarrassing due to copious and also high-volume roffles attracting unwanted coworker attention.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

"best" = dumb, irritating, deeply unfunny?

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

rollseyes.jpg i didnt say he should ignore her, but if its important for me to be wrong, wv, rollseyes.jpg

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

max, Shakey and Rock Hardy all said it on this thread.

I believe I have been "misinterpretated"

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

guys this is a dumb argument. lol palin.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden should wear this shirt to the debate

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

this gif is basically "lol stereotypes" right

○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Basically.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think Biden should debate McCain in absentia rather than engage much with her.

This is not QUITE saying he should ignore her. I think Biden should debate McCain, his record and policies (via Mac's onstage proxy, Palin), not engage with Palin directly on what she knows or doesn't know, what she reads or doesn't read.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok deej that is the best shirt ever

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I should have blamed Alfred for the "ignore her" argument.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.
i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.
i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.
i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.
i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.
i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.
i have faith in biden not flicking his tongue between his fingers at Palin.

goole, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's the dog that makes the shirt.

David R., Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

"best" = dumb, irritating, deeply unfunny?

you didn't know jw finds racism funny?

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

you wear a Phish hat

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

less Phish more Big Dogs

holy fuck that shirt is cracking me up

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

if Biden wore that tomorrow night, I'd marry him

Peter Cetera (Euler), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden just has to come across as smart and engaging and substantive

.333 ain't bad.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't be sad.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

you wear a Phish hat

no i wear a fish hat

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 20:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

THIS ONE TIME, AT DEBATE CAMP

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

i've been in that dude's house

gabbneb, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Only anti-semitism

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hope springs eternal:

Rich (Lowry):

I'm listening to Sarah Palin on Hannity right now and I've never heard her sound more sure and in command. Tomorrow just might turn out to me a nice surprise...

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 21:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does it sound anything like this?

http://www.palinparrot.com/?question=Are+you+crazy%3F

DIY Palin Interview Generator

jane hussein lane (suzy), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 22:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think Gov. Palin is an amazing women. I am so over hearing about how scared she is during interviews and how little she knows about certain issues. I think most people would be a little nervous if Katie Couric was asking the same questions over and over. I also would like to say, cover someone''s eyes and ask them what shirt they have on. Chances are, they will stumble and have a hard time remembering. So what if she did''t NAME a specific news source. Sarah Palin BELIEVES what she believes. She KNOWS what she knows. She may not know EVERYTHING but I think she''s intelligent enough to catch up pretty quick. She is non-judgemental. It''s obvious. She''s real. Thats more than I can say for most people, people NOT trying to get your vote. Give her a break.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pew/20081002/ts_pew/37readyondayone

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

At what time is this thing on tonight? And does anybody know an interweb stream of it or similar? Am seriously considering staying or getting up to watch it...

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

i believe it's 2am london time

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

T, I'm not sure whether DPM should take the form of bullshit BINGO or the standard key phrases chugger special.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think BOTH! somehow. email me your contendahs

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 October 2008 13:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.hollywood-newsroom.com/news/entertainment-value-huge-for-sarah-palin-joe-biden-debate/

“A lot of people are anticipating this to be almost a ‘Saturday Night Live’ live,” said Tammy Vigil, an assistant professor of communications at Boston University and a co-author of the upcoming book, “The Third Agenda in U.S. Presidential Debates.” “The entertainment value on this debate is going to be huge.”

djmartian, Thursday, 2 October 2008 14:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Heavy on the sarcasm but even so:

Fresh evidence tonight that the brilliant McCain campaign strategy to lock away the political effervescence of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to stoke overconfidence among the nation's Democrats and set the stage for yet another improbable Arizona comeback is working exactly as planned.

And oh, the comments.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm already getting nervous, guys!!

goole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't be.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

cover someone''s eyes and ask them what shirt they have on. Chances are, they will stumble and have a hard time remembering.

wow the average American must be even stupider than I thought

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Trust me, goole -- it's not GREAT satire but read through the whole thing, then read the comments.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay these people are actually dumber than the folks making Youtube comments.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dan I., Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Andrew Malcolm's immigrant parents repeatedly stressed the importance of active participation in a democracy. Early lessons included learning the alphabetical list of states by watching televised roll calls of national political conventions. That childhood exposure led to a lifelong fascination with politics, including 40-plus years of covering them and a brief stint practicing them as press secretary to Laura Bush in 1999-2000.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 15:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay these people are actually dumber than the folks making Youtube comments.

Is that even possible?

Nicole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Beneath every cellar is a potential for further development.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 16:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

LA local news was doing their spot on the debate, but then...

"in more breaking news at this hour, there are reports of a puppy on the loose on the 5"

traffic > election, LOL

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

sorry
Traffic > debate, though this could throw the final KO to the election

Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

JOE BIDEN WILL SAVE THAT PUPPY

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

HE WILL DO IT WITH HIS BARE HANDS, NOT SHOOT IT WITH A TRANQ GUN FROM A HELICOPTER LIKE SOME GOVERNORS WHO SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Obama phones in about puppy, McCain rushes to the 5

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

WHEN HE IS DONE SAVING THE PUPPY HE WILL TAKE THE TRAIN BACK TO DELAWARE TO SEE HIS FAMILY AND, IF THE PUPPY IS UNCLAIMED, HE WILL LET HIS GRANDCHILDREN PLAY WITH THE PUPPY, GENTLY

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

why are you yelling?

da croupier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

a puppy loose in the presidential race

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

are there any bars in nyc that are going to be playing this tonight

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (max), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

No, none.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

nabisco + puppy humor is one of the things i'll most remember about 08

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

how feverishly is palin praying with thomas muthy right now?

The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

hai guyz how do i get to huntington beach
i wunt to go hunting

a puppy, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

LORD MAKE AH WAY, LORD MAKE AH WAY

circa1916, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really hope Palin brings the lolz tonight, this is my evening's entertainment.

circa1916, Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

obama's dad is a wizard, pass it on

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow, crybaby stage already.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

[url=http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_pulling_out_of_Michigan.html?showall]MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN MCCAIN CONCEDING MICHIGAN

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Posted already.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh i forgot what thread i was in

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

DON'T PANIC:

re: Free Palin [Mark R. Levin]

I would LOVE to question Katie Couric about her knowledge of the Constitution, let alone Supreme Court decisions.

and

So, I guess, this is all an around and about way of saying that I'm in the Free Sarah Palin camp. I don't mean throw her out there and hope she swims. She needs to be prepared on the substance. But she also needs to be taught techniques to relax, feel calm and grounded, find her center, listen strategically, and take control. Deep breathing exercises, physical and vocal warm ups, can help. Finding that one person in the audience to connect to, or forgetting the audience altogether and having an intimate chat. She needs to find whatever works. And every bit of coaching she gets should be directed toward helping her exude the charm, charisma, and confidence that has gotten her this far.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Somehow Mark Levin as yoga teacher is not filling me with a sense of calm.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Find your flow, yes...now blame the Democrats for not letting you find it earlier..."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

palin should smoke a fatty with K-Lo, that will help her relax

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sarah and Kathryn Go to Applebee's

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

sarah palin's funny sober just think how funny she would be when she's baked

Mr. Que, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ross Douthat has the best analysis I've read in days:

For those conservatives who claim to see no problems with Palin's performance, of course, this is precisely what's so outrageous about the anti-Palin backlash: She's being judged, they complain, less on her record and her positions than on her ability to BS her way through "gotcha" questions from hostile interviewers, and she's being found wanting because she isn't as practiced in the art of the on-air dodge as more experienced politicians. (Thus Joe Carter's pro-Palin complaint, for instance, that he "cannot make the leap in logic required to believe that proficiency on television is evidence of capable leadership.")

I think this view is wrong for several reasons: Because Palin's relatively limited record in politics magnifies the importance of her public comments for anyone who's trying to get a handle on who this woman is and whether she's ready for high office; because her performance has been so comprehensively lousy that it has to reflect, to some degree, on her knowledge base and her understanding of policy as well as on her TV chops; and because like it or not, "proficiency on television" is simply a prerequisite for capable leadership in a mass democracy. But there's a sense in which the apologists for her performance are getting something right: In the process of performing very, very badly on national television, Palin is holding up a mirror to the rest of the political world, and revealing how the mix of talking points, bluster, obfuscation and BS that nearly all national politicians traffic in as a matter of course sounds when it's filtered through someone who isn't practiced in it, and isn't ready for the spotlight. Her performances reflect badly on her readiness for the vice presidency, no question - but they reflect badly on our whole compromised, spin-happy political class as well.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, whoop-de-fuck. Sarah Palin as window on our fucked up political process.

Any analysis that makes more out of her than a fish out of water is stretching it.

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

LIFE ISNT FAIIIIIRR

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

uh

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

sounds like a GREAT PLAN!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Another example noted by the campaign was voting for defense cuts during the Reagan administration, and voting against the first Gulf war in 1991. (PolitiFact.com points out that he voted with the majority of Senate Democrats on the resolution.)

lolz - I mean the first Gulf War was fucking stupid and voting against it is totally defensible but way to screw up your facts ahead of time guys

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's not a bad plan for her, honestly: if her main liability is looking a bit confused and underinformed when pressed on issues, it make sense to take the attack-dog position, because you can't look confused or underinformed when you're lunging at someone. (Also she's allowed to lunge at Biden in ways he's not allowed to lunge at her, so why not.)

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

woohoo

is this on at 2am uk time again? I have a 6 pack of tiger and 10 lights, and I'm settling in for the fireworks

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm gonna stay up (somehow). I think it's gonna be on BBC news24?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

if biden isn't solid this could be pretty anti-climactic. if he doesn't veer off course to school her or attack her, but just trusts that the disparity between them will be so apparent that no one will be able to apologize for palin tomorrow, or likewise attack biden for anything, that would be ideal.

rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

if biden isnt solid it will probably still be entertaining and climactic imo

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well hey ain't that a shocker that the McCain campaign asked that the post-answer give-and-take "talk to him / her" portion of the debate Q&A be reduced from five minutes to two.

I'm kinda hoping she tries to bring cue cards to to podium.

David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes "to to" that is correct

David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm just afraid that this will be anti-climactic, really. i was so pumped for obama/mccain and that was pretty devoid of entertainment (which is what the debates are for, really). and now i'm getting excited to see a historic roasting and if it turns into a back-and-forth that isn't OBVIOUSLY lopsided, i will be disappointed. i would like biden to bring the zing, but if he gets goofy, and palin is palin, then the vp debate will seem like it should be soundtracked with benny hill, and they might as well just start running around shooting toy guns at each other.

rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

i guess that sounds pretty good too now that i consider it

rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, Gwen Ifill sure is excited:

jaymc, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Plouffe protests

David Plouffe spoke to reporters just now, my colleague Victoria McGrane reports, previewing the debate.

After repeatedly calling Palin first “an extremely good debater,” then a “great” one, at the end he ramped it up to “Gov. Palin is one of the best debaters in American politics,” at which point the press gaggle interrupted him with its laughter. “No, she is! Her 2006 debate, she knew where she wanted to take every question, and so I think she’ll be relentlessly on message tonight and again I’m sure she’ll have any number of biting and witty one-liners but our focus is on the person sitting at home in Canton, Ohio, tonight, Akron, Ohio tonight, struggling economically. Who is delivering a message about an agenda that is going to most positively impact their lives,” he said.

He also criticized McCain’s comments this morning about Gwen Ifill’s Obama book as “another in a long line of manufactured controversy.”

“They are a campaign that’s filled with distractions, and trying to manufacture news to try to quote-unquote ‘make news cycles.’ We’re very consistent; we’re trying to drive a message, articulate where Barack Obama and Joe Biden would take the country. We think that at the end of the day we’ll be rewarded for that consistency,” he said.

“We think that consistency matters in politics and I think there’s been an erraticness in the McCain campaign over the last 10 days that I think has puzzled voters. So we’ll see what Gov. Palin does tonight," he said.

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Plouffe is awesome

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

idle speculation: is it possible that Palin's injury - apparently she hurt her hand at McCain's ranch and will be bandaged - is to neutralize criticism of her if she goes after wheelchair-bound Ifill?

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

ask Obama and his sergeant's bracelet.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

she knew where she wanted to take every question

^^ this is a great use of the English language

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

the ascii porn of this exists somewhere i'm sure of it

BIG HAT like hoos (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.palinbingo.com/

omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"No, she is!"

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

the palin flute footage was killing me last night on the news. from now on if an election thread starts stressing you out, just take a flute break.

scott seward, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg that is... omg

She should have done a duet with trumpet Star Wars girl.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haha, that very joke was made on Idolator, Dan...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

ROCK N ROLL!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I just drove by Wash u. There were people protesting in polar bear costumes O_O

I wonder if either candidate will go after the locals by calling it Warsh U.

bnw, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

re: jitters [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

An e-mail: " I'm easing the jitters by playing a little game: Trying to think up the questions Gwen Ifill is likely to ask tonight. First one on my list is: Senator Biden, Ms. Palin, how would you assess the historical significance of America's first African American candidate for president?"

10/02 06:28 PM

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

lolz KJL trying really hard to "think like a black lady" there or what?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

aww she has a little game

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

these guys are retarded

Ifill and Republican Wimps [Peter Kirsanow]

As I noted below, whether Ifill betrays a bias in favor of Obama/Biden tonight is somewhat beside the point. I'll bet that it will be hard to detect any bias in the questions she asks or the manner in which she asks them. And that's precisely why her evident conflict of interest is so insidious. It's more often the questions that aren't asked that betray bias and unfairness.

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

first she counts the number of times she can bounce the ball in an hour, and then she tries to beat that number

x-posts

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

her evident conflict of interest is so insidious.

her evident conflict of interest is so insidious.

her evident conflict of interest is so insidious.

her evident conflict of interest is so insidious.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

"lolz KJL trying really hard to "think like a black lady" there or what?"

Hey that was an email from a reader not KJL (she just reposted it!)

Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's a reference to her book, Shakey

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Or at least the kind benefit-of-the-doubt way of reading it is that it's a joke about the book

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's more often the questions that aren't asked that betray bias and unfairness.

Governor Palin, please share with us, in what ways do you believe that pageants build character?

rogermexico., Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/ny-etrick1002,0,5492521.story

after the win he can bow out knowing the internet is in capable, milflifluous hands

hoops (tremendoid), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

"lulzy"

rong thread no?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

i meant to post this

hoops (tremendoid), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

nu-code is killing flute rolling

hoops (tremendoid), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

flute roffling?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

that flute footage made me actually cry with joy.

estela, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

New ILX buzzwords: "flute roffle."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

does palinbingo work for anyone else? not me.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean, does the page load?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

im still waiting on some good drinking game rules that don't involve palin naming all of her kids or talking about putin again. i wanna get drunk tonight guys and i don't want it all to be from biden's scranton and amtrak references.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

take a drink every time you are not currently drinking

works for me

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

She could name Supreme Court cases from the Charles Evan Hughes era.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

The flute footage seemed like an outtake from Carrie, I kept waiting for the bucket of blood to fall on her head.

Nicole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Her favourite artist...James Galway.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey so has this been posted? because it definitely needs to be.

flyover statesman (will), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

shd automatically disqualify anyone from national office, xp

gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

This Thursday! A debate for the ages! Two contestants, one vice presidency! Who will earn the honor of succeeding Dick Cheney?

In the blue corner Joe “I take the train home” Biden. In the red corner Sarah “I can see Russia from my house” Palin.

Blue Team Rules

* For every mention of Scranton, Pennsylvania: Take a sip.
* When Biden begins the “I take the train home everyday story” being drinking. Don’t stop ‘till he finishes.
* When Biden questions Palin’s inexperience: Drink something you’ve never had before
* When Biden makes an obvious gaffe: Spill your neighbor’s drink
* When Biden uses X words when Y will do: Drink X-Y seconds
* When Biden patronizes or self identifies with the working class: Down some brew (Bonus points if you use Miller Highlife)
* When Biden lambastes Washington Insiders: Make a toast to his 35 years of experience in the United States Senate

The Joe Biden checklist. If he mentions all of the following, finish your drinks: Blue Collar, Golden Parachute, Little Guy, Washington Insider, Working Class, Clean

Red Team Rules

* Every time Palin cites Alaska’s proximity to Russia as “foreign policy experience”: Take a shot of vodka
* When Palin claims she said “Thanks but no thanks” to the Bridge to Nowhere: Demand a new drink from your hosts, say “thanks but no thanks,” and then when no one’s looking, take it anyway, then claim you never wanted it.
* When Palin recounts putting the governor’s jet on eBay: Auction off a beer to your friends
* When Palin insists that governing a small town in Alaska is in fact experience: Give your friend a shot glass of beer when he/she asks for a pint and insist it’s the same thing.
* When Palin points out that Biden thought Obama was too inexperienced for the job: Finish your drink and say, “Oh Snap!” If you’re a democrat, follow this by crying.
* When Palin claims that Washington’s problems can be solved by small town know how and common sense: Drink a Labatt Blue as you read up on how to become a Canadian citizen.
* When Palin talks about being the most popular governor in the country: Go to a room by yourself, realize you’re the most popular person in the room, then finish your drink.

The Sarah Palin checklist. If she mentions all of the following, finish your drinks: Bush Doctrine, Snow Machine, Moose, Lipstick, Hockey Mom, Family Values

via http://www.lifelovepursuit.com/post/52761499/tonights-vp-drinking-game

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

alternative drinking game rules (think this might already be posted)

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

take a drink every time you are not currently drinking

works for me

^^^^ jeff otm; this isn't rocket science, people! [/ally]

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

see, i dont see the red team drinking very much in that scenario xxxp

Fetchboy, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

where is joe biden bingo

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ha, I like "remembers talking point in mid-sentence" -- doing this for Palin would get you messed up for sure.

nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

e.g., her bailout answer, which with light-bulb noises kinda goes:

But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping BING oh, it's got to be all about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and BING reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and BING trade -- we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today. We've, we’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation.

nabisco, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh and MOOSE, those are a big problem facing a lot of the Americans I talk to, and, you know, SNOW-MACHINES, we have to ask ourselves are our snowmachines affordable

nabisco, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

has the person who wrote that drinking game actually had fun drinking, ever? complicated rules don't work. stupid shit that can't actually be done, or that would get you slapped doesn't work. the only thing that works is drinking. focus people

Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

"folks" - drink
"ahmadinejad" - drink
"surge" - drink
"700" - drink
"aisle" - drink
anecdote about regular person met on campaign trail - three drinks

Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

"trickle" - drink
palin thanks ifill for asking the question (thanks elmo!) - drink
palin uses lack of "another 9/11" as evidence that republicans have been good for national security - drink
biden praises mccain's military service - three drinks

Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

maybe this is getting too complicated - scratch above and replace with

"trickle" - drink
"another 9/11" - drink
"served" - drink

Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

"the" - drink

Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyone know who the two dopes were on Lou Dobbs' show claiming Palin will win (or SHOCK FOLKS with her performance at) the debate?

David R., Friday, 3 October 2008 00:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think im gonna stick with:
palin thanks ifill for asking the question (thanks elmo!) - drink
palin remembers talking point in mid-sentence - drink
biden audibly laughs at palin - drink
scranton - drink (this one really just to make sure i dont come out of the debate sober)

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think The Best Political Team On TV And Hey Don't Forget Assholes already started playing the drinking game!

David R., Friday, 3 October 2008 00:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

ooh, i also like
every time Palin starts a sentence with "Ya know"

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Will Palin bring her guitar?

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 00:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haley Barbour pre-debate chat with KCouric: "Obama is clearly articulate and well-spoken..." no less than 4 times. Dear lord.

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Well, I have my Blue Peters pre-rolled, bringing new meaning to fired up and ready to go...

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 3 October 2008 00:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

In 1982, Barbour was the Republican candidate for United States Senate but lost to incumbent Democrat John C. Stennis.[4]

During this failed bid for Senator a controversy arose at a campaigning stump. According to The New York Times, in the presence of the press an aide was complaining to Barbour that "coons" were going to be at a campaign stop at the state fair. Barbour warned the aide, in front of reporters, that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be "reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks."[5]

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let's do this

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Brokaw notes Palin's "puckish sense of humor."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"can I call you Joe?"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

"can I call you joe?" drink!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

very thankful

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Can I call you Joe?"

!!!!!!!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, biden gets in the first thank you

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is all very chummy so far

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden didn't insist on "Mr. Biden"

+1

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

all she has to do is get out a complete sentence here to exceed expectations, right?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

No, call me Herr Oberkommander Biden

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

nice solid, steady answer from joe here

actually... stringing sentences together

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

"privilege"

dook dook dook

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

SOCCER.

DRINK.

BETCHA.

DRINK.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

is thu economy a smiley face or a frowny face?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I'll BETcha"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

SOCCER GAME

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

That voice! Cheese-grater on expanded polystyrene!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's doing the obama thing of looking at the camera!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

welcome to hell! :-D

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

deer headlights

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol she's staring straight ahead making sure she remembers every word

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

do we have to drink everytime she mentions sports?

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

even suspending his campaign!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

CNN's EKG tonight is BATTLE OF THE SEXES.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

RESOUNDING BAROMETER

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

WINK!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

goddamn those American workers rock, don't they?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

she winked!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

DON'T SAY NO SHIT ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN AND THE FUNDAMENTALS. SARAH GONNA GET YOU.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

O NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

"out of touch" is a lolold zinger

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh my god she winked

TEAM OF MAVERICKS

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

TEAM OF MAVERIX

The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Stet, you betcha!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

MAVERICKS ... but working together in a TEAM.

getting the job done.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

MAVERIQUE!!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

LOL NEITHER OF YOU ANSWERED

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol Stakhanovite values

no "politics as usual", but HARD WORK and uh reform

woo

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG THE WINK!

Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

refresh buttons everywhere tonite : so gonna happen

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

ON NOTICE!!!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

is this being moderated by the chick from where on earth is carmen sandiego

cankles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

my office right now:

THERES ONLY ONE OCTOBER

DARN RIGHT!!!!
XP

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

darn right!

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

YOU'RE DARN TOOTIN'!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

SIX PACK

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Team of mavericks: i'm imagining john mccain starring in 'Multiplicity'

The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Never again? WTF.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

HOCKEY MOMS

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

holy fucking shit

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

holy shit, I'm drunk on this palin answer alone!!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

JOE SIXPACK
NEVER AGAIN

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is yawnsville.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gotta gotta gotta gotta gotta get DOWN wit' gettin' bidness done!

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

JOE SIX-PACK/HOCKEY MOM BIFECTA DRINX

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's not totally incoherent so far

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

she needs to
s l o w d o w n

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

watch her eyes. her blink rate goes through the roof when she's reciting from coaching. With the big words.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Darn right!!

You're all too fast for me!!

Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, she better start rambling nonsense or this will be boooooooooooooring

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

HECK OF A LOT

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

hurtin', heck of a lot

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg she's so folksy i want to die

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh joe sixpack! oh hockey moms! never again! never again will we let the terrorists...errr, what was I saying?

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think David Plouffe gave Biden a tranquilizer before the debate.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

a good man

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Wall Street can self-regulate...itself."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Joey Dank

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

HEY JOEY

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe biden sleepy.

I thought he said Joey Diaper

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Joey Dank, stop driving a tank! bad mileage, bro!

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

DARN RIGHT

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

"a good man" is this debate's "john is right"

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Smile, Joe, Smile!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

what tax increases r u responding to???

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

DARN RIGHT

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

SENATOR BIDEN, SARAH? I thought y'all were on a first-name basis!

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

this mofo fakied couric something bad!!!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

I would totally hit it though.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

HEAT IT UP

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

MSNBC with the hott splitscreen action

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

"BARACK"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

ZING

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

TACKIS

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

BOGUS STANDARD BOO-YA

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

ah, accusations of falsehood. KEEP EM COMING

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Go Biden

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

here comes killer biden

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh snap

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

tachis taxis txs taxes

the governor did not answer the question

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

OOOOOH

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haha

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I may not answer the questions!!!!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

"What I say may no logical sense, but I'm sure darn gonna say it"

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I reduced taxes...BY MAKING RAPE VICTIMS PAY FOR THEIR RAPE KITS

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'M GONNA TALK STRAIGHT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE = I don't have to care about you or the moderator

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

oooh ifill clamps down palin

snap

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I may not stop when the moderator says to stop but I will talk to the americandasl;kfjasdfpwerer

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

moderator disagrees xp

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

darnit, she's just gonna answer how she wants! ooooh, that moderator can just go....fly a kite!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden needs to stop the smiling
its condescending

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

"where I come from" = drink

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh that redistribution of wealth principal

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

That sounded like her first improvised aside about "redistribution of wealth"

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden needs to go wolverine on this bitch

cankles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Corner won't load for me. I think they crashed. :(

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

That 'small-businesses will fit into that bracket' is a point McCain didn't make. I think she might be doing better than he did so far.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok that made no sense

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Joe is awesome at smiling at her while she talks shit

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden needs to stop speaking.
it's condescending

The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

OH REAGAN SNAP

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

is she right about the small-business income tax thing?

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

<3 cankles

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

blink blink blink blink

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

"GOVERNMENT, YOU BETTER STEP OFF, GOVERNMENT."

yeah I have to admit the small business thing was actually kind of a smart move in terms of sounding good (not sure if true)

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

so bush government shit at running things, Palin?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait...what....changing tax rates is not budget neutral

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

who cares gbx?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

SCRANTON, DRINK

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha scranton

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxxpost yeah srsly

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

"where I come from" ugh

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

ugh the way she rolled her eyes while she said the word "government"

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

and correspondingly moved her shoulders too!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

i aint using teh radio, Mr candidate

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg biden's dripping disgust when he said "website" lololol

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe comes across much more as if he knows this stuff, as opposed to palin who comes across as if she's been taught it

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was told there would be no math

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh snap

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

BIDEN WINS

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

COLD

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

ULTIMATE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

OOOOH WE'RE ON THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

TURN THAT BRIDGE TO NOWHERE AROUND!!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

damn gwen is about done with this shit

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

he saved a potentially long-winded answer

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

SNAAAAP

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

So is she taking notes, reading notes, or doing the Jumble?

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

That was a hell of a job to boil down that McCain insurance crap in 90 seconds!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

But what he was saying before was too verbose. That zinger needed to go at the end of a pithier point.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

LOL GWEN LAY IT DOWN

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's doing better than I expected so far, gotta say

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

exxon zing

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden talking too long

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

THE LIGHT IS BLINKING

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, she's doing ok

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

characterizezzzeze

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

talk talk talk talk talk talk

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

THAT'S WHAT AH'M TALKIN' ABOUT

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

unpatriotic that's whut I'm talkin' about

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

charactererererisms

YA YH YAHYAH YAH

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

What the fuck?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

plz stop smiling, Biden

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Smilin' Biden

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?
how can she believe in fossil fuels if she doesn't believe in fossils?

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

"NO, NOT HERE, SIR"

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

So far Biden killing her on Mediacurves/CNN apparently.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

any of the greed there that has been kinda instrumental in their mode of operation wouldn't be up there

uh

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bless their hearts

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

BLESS THEIR HEARTS = drink xbillions

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

has she actually pronounced a 'g' at the end of a verb yet? Is she going to just devolve into a full-on Alaskan-flavored cockney within the next 60 mins?

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

"in this case, in a country"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden should zing with the polar bears

Gukbe, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

they told him to smile because otherwise everyone would think he was being mean to the little lady

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

come on he paid good money for them teeth he may as well show 'em off.

homosexual II, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

loooooool how long have i been at this? 5 weeks???

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

more winking

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

much more satisfying = this is actually a fair fight and biden will still school her

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

srsly she is doing terribly

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

FUCK THE CORNER IS DOWN

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

i promise u nothing!!!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

cozen otm

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's p charismatic imo - maybe i'm being unconsciously influenced by my desire to ejaculate in her hair, but i dont think i even understood how charismatic she was until now

cankles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

yay let's get on the environmental rollercoaster

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

that windfall profits tax bit is good

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

TS: How Long Have I Been At This vs. Ready On Day One

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's doing OK.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden is coming off as very disciplined, and maybe a little bit in a pharmaceutical fog.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

how do you stop the greed and corruption on wall street? Why, deregulation of course!

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

"maybe i'm being unconsciously influenced by my desire to ejaculate in her hair"

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

graceful floating windfall zing

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Revelation!

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

REVELATION MADE AWARE

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

"revelation" dog whistle!

Dan I., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

He so didn't need to praise this. What she did, by her own standards, was Democratic principles at their scariest!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

"more revelation made aware now to Americans"

gahhhh I'm not drunk enough

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rear that head of abuse!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

rear the head . . . of abuse?

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

more and more revelation made aware to americans.

man she out-bushes Bush

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's a main streeter. she'd feel the effects of the credit markets seizing up.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

A TOXIC MESS ON MAIN STREET THAT'S HURTING WALL STREET

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey y'all, it's just lettin' sarah be sarah

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Eh. It's a draw so far.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

A Hot Toxic Tranny Mess!

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Total draw.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

this principal-adjustment thing is bad news

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

your ticket's energy ticket also

Dan I., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden is killing with Independents on Mediacurves.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

oooh she just learned NONSENSICAL

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

the rings around his eyes look terrible

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is it a coincidence that my acid reflux is getting really bad while listening to Palin blather? I need to get some more tums. I may have to turn this off.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

tap-in-to-em

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey where's tombot?

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

whoah what what what energy what what? this great land what what change the subject

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

absolute refusal to stay on Ifill's questions...that can't play well

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

she sounds like Tracy Flick.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

"i wanna talk about... the things that gott writted on my cue cards"

ShNick (Upt0eleven), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

ta tap inta 'em

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

EAST COAST POLITICIANS

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here come the polar bears!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

RED MEAT RED MEAT

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

The East coast is the new elite. Clearly, she has never been to Delaware.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

East Coast Politicians

DRINK

Gukbe, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden needs to stop nodding, if anything

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

OK this should be fun.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

tracy flick otm!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's been practicing hard, you gotta give her that

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

ya uptoeleven otm

oh HERE WE GO

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

GRAMMAR POLICE, ARREST THIS GIRL

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Huh?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

either my CNN live feed has a slight delay, or you people are the fastest typists I've encountered.

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

i give her handlers an A-

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

There is something to be said for Man's activities

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

cyclical temperature changes

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

this bar is way too quiet

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes, climate change does cause some of man's actions

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't wanna do this

I don't wanna talk about that

I wanna talk about

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

this environment answer is insane!!!!

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

hehehe this is terrible from palin

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

she did that in the couric interview too: attributed the activities of man to climate change

learn causation, missus

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

is she making this up?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

tap tap tap

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

i HATE that energy independence shit. it's just so nakedly a sop for AK.

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Other countries don't care as much about the environment as the US?!

Stevie T, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

preserve our hydrocarbons

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

east coast = code for the coastal Northeast.

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is global warming answer is hurting me. I'm going to have to stab myself in the leg to make the pain go away.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't think her last answer was English. I didn't understand it.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

GLOVES CUMMIN OFF

cankles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

other countries don't care about environment like the us

sonderangerbot, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey where's tombot?

― Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Thursday, October 2, 2008 3:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

*makes drinky-drinky motion with hand*

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

is this still a draw?

Gukbe, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is just a constant stream of

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

just moved biden's way

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden you missed a perfect polar bear zing!

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd like to preserve HER hydrocarbons amirite?

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Every answer Biden gives he makes no sense for the first 30 seconds. He needs to shooting some of these open goals.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

everything she says is so... grrr. Why Am I doing this to myself?

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm still trying to parse her energy answer.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

FISTBANG

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

not sure about clean coal, other than it means COAL COUNTRY VOTES

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

DRILL BABY DRILL *SMIRK*

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

JEEZE JOE, WAY TO SCREW UP "DRILL, BABY, DRILL"

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

that's the only time she'll ever be able to correct him

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

HUNGRY MARKETS

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha senator o'biden

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

billions of barrels aint that much

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'd tap that

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

RAPING RAPING RAPING

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

OK, let's talk about rape.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg why won't someone just scream "WHAT IS THE USE OF EXPLOITING THINGS THAT ARE NONRENEWABLE"

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

did she just call him O'biden

cankles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden's talking like he's been drugged

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

is this going to be better when im stoned?

homosexual II, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

"CLEAN COAL? I SUPPORT THAT TOO!'

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tiny footprints

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

tiny footprints on land

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I LUV GAY PEOPLE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think David Plouffe gave Biden a tranquilizer before the debate.

― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, October 3, 2008 1:11 AM (24 minutes ago)

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

HEREEEEEE WE GOOOOOO

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

28 cubic kilometers of oil, yo

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

will she address same-sex issues, or will she go back to talking about something no one's brought up yet? SO SUSPENSEFUL

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Uh oh spaghetti-oh.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

burn that dirty coal

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

need more 2 questions in a row to Palin, she can't access her programming fast enough to answer

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

IT'S CREEPING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO MARRIAGE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

bingo

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg palin on same-sex marriage......CAN'T WAIT

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

CLARIFY CLARIFY CLARIFY

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

TOLERANT

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

god, she won't even say "gay" aloud

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

her family are gay!!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I

HAVE

GAY

FRIENDS

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sarah is "tolerant." What a fucktard.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

IN THAT TOLERANCE ALSO

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

that was a reluctant "tolerant"

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think David Plouffe gave Biden a tranquilizer before the debate.

― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, October 3, 2008 1:11 AM (24 minutes ago)

Everyone takes lots of drugs before a big speech - even just lots of beta blockers.

dowd, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

i am so tolerant i allow my friends to disagree wit me

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is a surprisingly defensive answer.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh, they can make visits in a hospital!!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

aw, she's not a homophobe, except about the marriage thing

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

UGH

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

In that tolerance also....

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

FUCK SHE'S SO HEINOUS

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

You guys aren't even tolerant of deeznuts... :(

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

OH JUDO THROW

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Uh?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

"let's try to avoid nuance, senator"

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

hot potato with that gay marriage thing.

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

OAOAHAHAHA WAH!

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

WONDERFUL, YOU AGREE

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

foreign policy the lols

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

she is so excited to talk about Iraq

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

a real American hero, General Petraeus is there . . . GI JOE

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jesus GREAT AMERICAN and AMERICAN HERO and A MAVERICK!

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wonderful, we all agree, the gays can unionize.

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I want rape kits

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

subtle "called him out" zing!

Gukbe, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mediacurves is now down.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

NO EARLY WITHDRAWAL

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink



caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

did she get a bracelet?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

everytime she says "withdrawl" do you think bristol and levi flinch?

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

I smell a fact-based smackdown a-brewin' on the troop funding criticism

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

god bless her, she's giving it the ol five college try

i'm a shop btw (jeff), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

if you went back to pre-surge numbers, it didn't work, fuckwit

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden on point with a plan

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

NO EARLY WITHDRAWAL

― Alex in SF, Friday, October 3, 2008 1:40 AM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^what her daughter said amirite

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

ehhh shes doing well enough for right wingers to pretend she won

so far

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

The idea that a draw (which exceeds expectations for Palin) is anywhere near good enough is nonsense.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

I want rape kits

― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:40 PM Bookmark

Well you better be ready to shell out.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

bracelet is from the "injury" she sustained this afternoon while jogging

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Attack dog can use the "100 years line". Come on Joe!

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

joes eyes look weird

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

true caek--it's still a vp debate (i.e., usually doesn't matter much)

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

NO END IN SIGHT TO THE END

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Eeek!

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sully:

9.33 pm. Her climate change answer was bewildering. But that seems to me to be her strategy: just channel a barrage of rhetoric and bar any real follow-up. Ifill seems unable, perhaps because of the rules, to challenge her in any serious way. Biden is stylistically awful and substantively dull. Palin has very little substance but is killing him stylistically. And Biden sounds very liberal. He's throwing this debate away so far

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

ehhh shes doing well enough for right wingers to pretend she won

so far

― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:41 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Can they get into more of that shit? Seriously - rape kits, dinosaurs, the OMG stuff!

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

white flag of surrender!!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does Joe keep saying Barack's name when he means McCain?

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

OH BUT SHE'S FUCKING UP NOW

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

um um eh um

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is she already off script on Iraq?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seriously incoherent answer. . .

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's gonna cry

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

hang on the victory's in sight now

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

victory is within sight, everybody

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

First "you guys" in a prez debate

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not ready!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

has she taken a breath yet?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

"another story"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

what the FUCK is she saying?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

THAT IS ANOTHER STORY.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

My god Sarah Palin can't talk thoroughly about any one thing and ends up incoherently jumping from one naive, cue carded statement to the next.

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden is a bad-ass.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

She's getting personal.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

i dont mean good enough to turn around a 7 pt poll deficit, caek

true caek--it's still a vp debate (i.e., usually doesn't matter much)

― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:42 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark

this isnt exactly a typical election dude

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

first invocation of the almighty!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

THATS ANOTHER STORY

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh lady you done pissed the man off now

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

DEAD WRONG

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

deej, sorry, I wasn't responding to you. Thread moving too fast.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

second invocation of the almighty!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because uh some uh people out there in our nation don’t *have* maps and uh I believe that our ed- education like such as in South Africa and uh the- the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should uh our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or- or- should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think sullivan is right, biden's longwinded

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i mean, more so than usual

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

did George H.W. Bush ever call Reagan "Ron" aloud?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden's whole demeanor here says "Holy shit I can't believe I'm debating this crazy bitch"

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

this first name bullshit irritates me

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden's finding his feet now

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

shit. Work in 4 hours. But cannot tear self away.

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

longwinded is fine.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin is doing disturbingly well with the magical colored lines on CNN, but Biden is doing amazingly well on foreign policy.

Telephone thing, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

needs to drop the OBL

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

bringing the details

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

OOOOO HE SAID "MADRASSA" :[

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

ding^

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

that was a goood answer

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

blue detail on lecterns = subtle dem bias

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is where I get all Morbs on the who's-got-a-bigger-dick re foreign policy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh god I can't wait to see this.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

"that leader of Al Qaeda"

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

nukular

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

u say longwinded, i say thorough and comprehensible.

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Israel is in jeopardy, OF COURSE...."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

STINKING CORPSE

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

NUKE YA LURRR

everybody drink!

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

THE CASTRO BROTHERS

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

*I* can pronounce Ahmedinejad! YAY!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

the castro brothers are dangerous dictators?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

putting ball on tee

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

They had a hit single in the 70s, right?

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

my bottle's empty

NEED BA-BA

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

he would TALK to them? TALK? when we have weapons? Is he mad?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

the castro brothers.

what caek said.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

STINKING CORPSE!!

that's me!!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

nucular's gotta be on purpose

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kissinger, Schultz, Powell -- WHAT A DREADFUL LAW FIRM

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kissinger's "passion for diplomacy"? LOL

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

did she just learn how to pronounce "naïveté"

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dying at "Castro Brothers"

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

kissinger ha!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

WHO HAY TAMERICA!!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg gwen is being rendered speechless.

sarah palin you did not have a conversation with kissinger.

omg he shared his passion for diplomacy omg omg omg omg lolololol

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden is going to have a good response to this

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

they hate us with OUR FREEDUMBS

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

"hard work by serious people"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

If he's so dangerous maybe you shouldn't call him crazy on tv huh?

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

HAHA so basically I disagree with them, but I don't agree with myself.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

paaashun

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

JON MCAAIN GIVE U HARRUMPH DIPLOMACY PER MY PASSION-SHARING FRIEND

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

(I am behind because I had to pause the DVR)

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG BIDEN I <3 YOU THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING POWER STRUCTURE OF IRAN

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

RESPECT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS??!?!

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

TALK. TALK. TALK.

all you do is TALK TALK

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

(also delayed on BBC)

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

where are u guys watching with ifill reaction shots?

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ifill's eating a ham sandwich.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

cup of tea cup of tea cup of tea

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

McCain Hates Spain > 100 Years in Iraq

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

SPAIN-uh

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

the spain zinger haha

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Holy shit. Biden's response is destroying her. The gloves are off. He's pissed. This is the scrapper I was hoping to see.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

ssssPPPPPPAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNN-NUH

cankles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol spain, i don't think there's much mileage in that slip

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

you gotta forge that peace

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

one side or the other there also

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

TOP OF AN AGENDA ITEM

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

FORTY. MILLION. DAGGERS.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

RESPECT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS??!?!

― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:50 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^

I know.

Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

He's obviously owning this. Right? Right? (increasing desperation)

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

embassy building?

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

she makes NO SENSE. NONE.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

McCain Hates Spain > 100 Years in Iraq

otm, I don't know why the Dems aren't hammering that as evidence of, i dunno, senility

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

don't worry, jews, there won't be a second holocaust.

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's been well coached, she's so much better than I expected

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

third person!

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

THIRD PERSON UGH

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

barack obama shares my passion, fanfic at 11:00

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is a straight draw

oh well; no matter

obama still wins by miles

wd've been nice to see her faceplant

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

TALK. TALK. TALK.

mine's definitely delayed: Saw this before Biden said it. O maybe some of you are eerily prophetic?

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Drew OTM

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

embassy building = completely innocuous but details is the motive for mentioning that

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

she doesn't need to make sense; only sound like she makes sense

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

that's the pisser

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Draw = u crzy.

dowd, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

iran is closer to obama

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's been well coached, she's so much better than I expected

I am sad to be vindicated about this.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG WHAT DID SHE JUST SAY

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

we love jews!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

boy does she like jews

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

aw lets all <3 israel

hahah I heard him breathing in big at that

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't believe anyone will call this a draw.

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm encouraged by our love of Israel.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

If the narrative she was _coached_ amazingly well then that is almost as good. The corollary is that she doesn't have any in-depth knowledge.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

"as there are with every administration"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

RESPECT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS??!?!

― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:50 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^

I know.

― Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:52 PM (1 minute ago)

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

so glad we both love israel llols

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden's hissing intake of breath when Palin complimented him on love of Israel = this debate's "Gore sighs"

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

caek otm

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

HE HAS BEEN THE MAVERICK--DRINK!!

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

what is she answering

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

We'll learn from the past mistakes of this administration and uh other administration.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Off foreign policy?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

huge blenders!

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

and could you, uh, name some of those mistakes you'd learn from?

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

you little back-looking rascals!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

SHAKESPEARE, GWEN, SHAKESPEARE

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

he quoting tycho songs now

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

he totally Gandolfini breathed at Israel

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haha

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good job linking back to Bush, Biden!!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

fucking MAVERICKS everybody drink

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is good shit

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

bushes

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

he totally Gandolfini breathed at Israel

OTM

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION MARK E SMITH IS MY COPILOT REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION REPETITION

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden has Nicholson eyebows

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Eeek

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden looks pissed!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

eyebRows

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

She hadn't been coached for this

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

oooooh, nukes

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

wtf?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

nukular

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

nucular weaponry would just be the be-all/end-all of too many people wau

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

not answering the question

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

She's forgotten the question

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

her facial expressions are so goddamned phony! People buy this shit?!?!

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

nuclear weapons would be the be all and end all of so many pts of our planet

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Draw my fucking ass, he's gotten into tons of policy specifics and with the possible exception of energy, she's done nothing but babble in generalities.

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

she stuck the ahmadinejad!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't let them PROLIFERATE

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

god gwen why did you give her an excuse to say nuclear some more

oh the economic sanctions

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

end all be all of...too many people and...too many parts of the planet

Gukbe, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Let me make sure I can remember what I rehearsed."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Perhaps

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

back to afghanistan!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

bushiz! bushiz! bushiz!

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

if I drink everytime she says NUKE u LURR I'm not going to be able to type

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Draw my fucking ass, he's gotten into tons of policy specifics and with the possible exception of energy, she's done nothing but babble in generalities.

aka she is killing him

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

BARAKO BAMA

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

the bush policy would be the same as Mccains. She really doesn't get causation.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

what was the question again?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

how is "more troops" not a "surge"?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

draw? he's slaughtering her.

fritz, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

ah who cares, let's open up the floor

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

what's this "joe biden" business. that is vile.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

well if the EKG means anything she ain't doing so hot.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

has anyone checked her for an earpiece?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 01:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't see that EKG. is it medium or bad?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

So... who you nukin???

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe "real" biden

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

big ol' sigh

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

the sighs are killing me, lolololol

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Was "[that's] number one. Number two!:" on the drinking sheets?

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

hahahah the huffing and puffing from biden while she rambles

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

CLEARING HOLDING REBUILDING POKING WITHDRAWING STICKING FINGERING

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's getting cross, but has nothing to draw on. Apart from the geography being different.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

with the possible exception of energy, she's done nothing but babble in generalities

and on the subject of energy, she babbled things that are just wrong. That was the WORST of her schpiels so far.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

OK THEY WANT MORE TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN MOVE ON

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

regulate your breathing, Joe

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

EKG: it goes into the positive when biden talks and neutral when she talks. except when they cut to her, then the men's line spikes and the women's line drops.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Damn, Biden totally laughed at her just there.

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

damn joe is ready for this shit to end.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

ffs men xp

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

HAHA -- "I admit, I was the first to recommend it."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think joe is cute

Bright Future (sunny successor), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

i pay much less attention to her, despite wanting to ejaculate in her hair, on account of her being an impenetrably shallow speaker. so many xposts

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

BOSNIACS
awesome!!!

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha bosniaks!!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

ooooh, darfur question

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

so you think she's hot when she's chirpily incoherent, ian?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosniacs!

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosniaks is actually correct!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whatever their performance vis a vis each other, he's kicked McCain's sorry ass for sure.

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

STOMACH FOR GENOCIDE
my new grindcore band

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

eek

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosniaks is actually correct!

wtf you talking about, willis

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Why bosniacs funny? xpost g00b yeah exactly!

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

CRAVING THAT STRAIGHT TALK!

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

i will play bass in stomach for genocide.

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg omg omg it's so obvious that i'm a washington outsider

FUCK YOU

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's how everyone in former Yugoslavia, when they speak in English, call people from Bosnia.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

what is she saying?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's not Bosnians?

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

yall change your mind about things in Washington. here on main street, we never change our minds.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

dar-for

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosniaks

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe do not let that flip-flopping slide without a bridge to nowhere jab

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

BRIDGE TO NOWHERE
Bring it!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

o my god her smug, shit-eating smirk.

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

that was a good minute or so from palin

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosnian = referring to something characteristic of Bosnia?

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Washington outsider CHUG

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I watched those debates....3 days ago.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosnians is the more popular english termt tho, no?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnians

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I divested, er, tried to divest from Sudan

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosniaks == Bosnian Muslims

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

bosniaks are a (muslim) subset of bosnians

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bosnians may be the more popular term... in Washington!

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

stop saying JOHN MCCAIN

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I beg to disagree with you there"

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I gonna tell you what you did

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden wins

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Has she attacked Obama once?

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

HE KNOWS WHAT EVIL IS

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

JOHN MCCAIN KNOWS HOW TO WIN A WAR! HE WON VIETNAM!

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

He was in Vietnam, right? She knows that war was lost

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

"HE KNOWS WHAT EVIL IS"

haha xpost

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

John McCain KNOWS HOW TO WIN A WAR

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh wait that was John Rambo.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

no, mordy, just fellated mccain.

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

whoah it's weird to hear her switch to the talking points....it's so....obvious

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

taking the politics out of these war issues

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol JOHN MCCAIN WHO KNOWS HOW TO WIN A WAR like in the 'nam amirite?

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

YO mention dick cheney more! Keep hitting on that!

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

She's attacked Biden. But since people only vote for the top of the ticket... she's basically wasted this debate.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

fumbles then slips straight into rehearsed stuff

Gukbe, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

C'mon. Everbody knows John Rambo won the Vietnam war.

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

and blinks

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

MCCAIN/PALIN 1 NAM 0

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Apart from the sighing he has pretty much ignored the fact that she is on the ticket.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden is a good dude!!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

I wanna know what evil is . . . I want you to shooooooow me . . .

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for this to end and watch Joe Biden storm off stage.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

it was his job to ignore her!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

ifill is terrible, she needs to have people answer her questions

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

1932?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

BBC pundit: "Great riff from Biden on McCain being like Bush in various areas of foreign policy. She has no answer. Literally."

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

"what do ya expect--a team of mavericks!"

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

TEAM OF MAVERICKS -- DRINK!!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

gbx, yah, I agree with is strategically. was making the observation.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

he wants a what debate?

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Joe is actually impressing me by how much he knows his shit. Dude has Jon Pertwee eyebags for sure, but still

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

a wink!!
*SWOON*

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

a TEAM of MAVERICKS

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Main St Glug!

Kerm, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

WASILLA MAIN STREET = REALITY TIP

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for this to end and watch Joe Biden storm off stage. punch her in her smug face

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think people are going to realize they've heard these jokes before

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

the CNN line goes down with men when she winks

MEN HATE AGGRESSIVE WOMEN

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, kingfish otm

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

man, if only washington was more like wasilla.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

are "middle class" and "working class" the same thing in the U.S.?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

stop mandatin' shit on me

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

LOOK:

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

HOME DEPOT

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe biden spends a lot of time in home depot

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

good to know

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

he spends a lot of time in home depot!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Are you better off?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

will Biden mention torture?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

america is totally different to my country

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

OUTTA MY WAY GOVERNMENT!!

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden in home depot is most photoshoppable

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

are "middle class" and "working class" the same thing in the U.S.?

classless society yo

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

come with me to......SCRANTON!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

DOGGONE IT??

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

DOGGONE IT THERE YA GO AGAIN

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

reality from wasilla main street

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

DOGGONE IT????

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

DOGGONE IT

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

There you go again!

Stevie T, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

DOGGONE IT

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

holy fuck she's two mins away from gun fingers and pwew pwew pwew pwew

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

I HATE THIS BITCH AND HER HORRIBLE VOICE AND ASS FACE. Ugh.

DOGGONE IT!

Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah working class people would be starting billion dollar corporations every day if not for the nasty GOVERNMENT

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

waaaaaaaaaht wife crack???

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

WINK

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Her reward is in Heaven, right?"

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

her reward is in heaven

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

did she just award extra credit?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

deliberative

danbunny, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

WOW

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yo! 2nd scranton ref!

Fuck you stop quoting Reagan and saying 'shout out'

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

is that in the vp portfolio?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

no cozen in america everyone thinks they are in the middle class so that's what politicians say so people will think "oh yeah he means me!"

lil yawne (harbl), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

SHOUT OUT

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait, was this the question?!

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

were the crowd laughing _at_ her folksy stuff there?

did she just mention his dead wife?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

THAT WAS THE FOLKSIEST I HAVE EVER HEARD A HUMAN BEING COMMUNICATE

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

she is the EDUCATION VP and will INCREASE STANDARDS OMGWTFBBQ!!11111!1one!1

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

gross

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

what's the EKG reading on the third graders line?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

is it me or is she occasionally winking to punctuate her comments

Milton Parker, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

her reward is in heaven

I think that's a good line really. Her reward is in heaven, because teachers don't get shit here on earth.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

caek yes she did

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

LAME

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

we all got extra credit, please submit to university of your choice.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's winking at ME, dude

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

WHAT AUTHORITY DOES THE CONSTITUTION GIVE TEH VEEP?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I literally cannot wait for Tina Fey this weekend

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

that is some gentle comedy

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

special neeeeeeeeeeeds

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

John McCain has already tapped me lol

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

did anybody think to mention to her that it's a bad idea to shake your head "no" when you're lying?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

i am the MORE AUTHORITY veep WHOA

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

VP OF SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN!?!?!?

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

JMC has already tapped me!!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

jaymc?

bnw, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Economist liveblog: 9:48: Oh, the Castro Brothers. I think I heard them at the Black Cat last Thursday night.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

JAMC?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

god, she reminds me of idiocracy... a shout-out in a debate? come on. when is she gonna tell us when levi's album drops?

fritz, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

You guys sure you're not getting group-thinky? I haven't been checking this page for most of the debate, but my brother and I were pretty convinced that she's winning this thing (or Biden's losing it). It's just that this two-minutes vs. two-minutes format is apparently a huge weakness for him.

Dan I., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

FINALLY -- A GOOD IFFILL QUESTION

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

9:35: Joe Biden just criticised the "Drill, drill, drill," chant and Sarah Palin starts her answer with an idiotic correction: "The chant is drill, baby, drill." I'm not surprised that the women's tracking line dipped on that one.

9:35: Sarah “drill baby drill” Palin coaches Joe Biden on how to speak idiot.

9:33: "Drill, baby, drill...and by the time I'm president we may actually find some oil."

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dan, independents have been breaking huge in polls for Biden throughout. So I think we're on base with mass sentiment.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

go biden on cheney go biden go!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think she's coming off terribly. I don't know what the "man on the street" is going to think.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought she charmed with education. everything else has rung very very false, or have been poorly delivered

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

WORD.

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

She is winning; Biden's sleepwalking through the thing. Of course it's impossible to believe anything Palin's saying since you know, she's on the Republican ticket and GW Bush basically said all the same bullshit when he ran (maverick, different from other Republicans, etc. etc. etc.). Of course if it worked that time, it probably will again.

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

charmed? she barely stopped short of YEE-HAW

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

she has nice calves

danbunny, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha, well if burt stanton's the only one that agrees with me, then I'm happy to be wrong.

Dan I., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Damn.. Cheney = owned.

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't school her on civics, Joe. No mileage in that.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought she charmed with education

She has been to more colleges than any other candidate.

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

damn ladiez love Joey B.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

A HUGE HUGE HUGE STATE

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

she didn't understand the question at all, did she?

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

being a MOM

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin's completely missed the point of this question.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

not understanding the question is one of the most important debate skills

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

When is abortion coming?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

she doesn't know what an achilles heel is

fritz, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

I am the voice of reason

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

winked again!

Milton Parker, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

exceptionalism

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

exceptionalism is a scare word for me

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

city on a hill!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

and thus has answered it. "my real weakness will be that i can't think all joined up first of all and also" xp to rock

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin's completely missed the point of this question.

= winning

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

she doesn't know what an achilles heel is

a town south of Wasilla?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

SPECIAL NEEDS.

DRINK.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh exceptionalism.

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

idyll?

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

city on a hill! I AM A BIG FAN OF RONALD WINTHROP

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I think my achilles heel is my inability to answer a fucking question"

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol at ignoring her totally

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

SON IN IRAQ
DRINK

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol my wife just said Palin has cankles

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

DEAD KIDS
DRINK

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is going to be spun as her victory - merely because she hasn't messed up yet

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

wtf channel are you people watching that has full-body shots of palin?

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

CHOKING UP!?!?!?!?!?!

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

WHOA

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

BRING ON THE WATERWORKS JOE

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whoa

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

SINGLE PARENT IS BIDEN'S "I HAVE A BRACELET TOO" MOMENT

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

WOAH THE MOMENT

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

WHAAAA

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

tears FTW!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

woah, he almost bawled

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

if talking complete gibberish doesn't count as messing up xp

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

"If you ain't got no money, honey..."

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe b is awesome; I love him

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

She should stop grinning when big Joe is blubbing

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

i want to slam my head into this desk

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

i am only listening to this....did he just CRY?

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

SHE'S RUNNING ON FUMES

Milton Parker, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm takin' shots left and right!

sensual harrassment (naus), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

and the maverick stump speech

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's missed the note totally now

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

AAAHHHHHH

the sir weeze, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whoever had maverick on their drinking game is fucked up right now.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

she looks thrown now

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG JOE BIDEN JUST OUT-WOMMANED HER

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

man her super scripted answer following THAT just looks so fucking awful

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

okay re: help vs. more of the same BEST MOMENT OF DEBATE

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

TEARS!?!?

Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

If we're gonna call McCain "Maverick", can Obama be Iceman?

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

That was brilliant

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

YGS otm

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

let's hope this isn't seen as Biden's Muskie Moment.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

not got to allow
not got to allow
not ....got....to...allow

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

blubbing becomes the story, no one will remember the rest of the debate. Dems win.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG JOE BIDEN JUST OUT-WOMMANED HER

Judo throw #45768

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

so glad i decided not to do the drinking game

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANS AMERICANS ROMNEY LIEBERMAN SANTA BUSH MCCAIN ALASKA WARS ECONOMY WALL STREET NOT GOT TO ALLOW PARTISANSHIP REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS OTHER

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

"My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"

lol "220, 221, whatever it takes"

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe biden bodyslamming maverick

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes, let's talk about the maverick!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

holy shit, Joe's picking up steam!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

we've got along with lots of democrats, like joe lieberman!

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden: deflation of the maverick

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

I JUST CRIED, FUCK YOU AND YOUR SCRIPT.
--Joe B

i've got a bracelet too (jessie monster), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

holy shit Biden is trying to give you all alcohol poisoning with the mavericks dropped left and right

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

joe going for the big finish!! love it

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good turnaround on the Maverick meme

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANS AMERICANS ROMNEY LIEBERMAN SANTA BUSH MCCAIN ALASKA WARS ECONOMY WALL STREET NOT GOT TO ALLOW PARTISANSHIP REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS OTHER

lol

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

If we're gonna call McCain "Maverick", can Obama be Iceman?

― kate78, Friday, October 3, 2008 2:22 AM (13 seconds ago)

^^^^^^

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

sux that question went to JB first

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

What did the CNN lines thing of the blubbing, etc?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

is anyone viewing this on radio? does palin come across... better that way?

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Are we watching the same debate? when did he cry!?

Dan I., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sully:

10.18 pm. Biden's response on Cheney and the constitution was devastating. His authority against her chatter really told. And that is what is slowly happening in this debate. She started by dazzling people with sheer velocity and energy and gimmicks. But as the debate goes on, her cutesy soundbites actually begin to unnerve. And his authority comes through. This is now a tie, as Biden is gaining fast in the closing stretch. Classic tortoise and hare.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whoever had maverick on their drinking game is fucked up right now.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

they have now passed out in a puddle of their own sick.

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

He choked up talking about his sons.

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol "viewing this on radio" i am drunk xpost

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

he's baiting her into some batshit fundie shit

YESSSSSS

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

DAMN mcCAIN NOT A MAVERICK pwned lol

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

ian we are streaming radio and she does come across better

xp

sleeve, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

If we're gonna call McCain "Maverick", can Obama be Iceman?

― kate78, Thursday, October 2, 2008 7:22 PM (2 minutes ago)

THIS MUST HAPPEN

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

More Economist: 10:12: Well now she's just babbling. “Oh say it ain’t so Joe, there you go again!...doggone it! God bless her. Her reward is in heaven, isn’t it?!” I know this is a sensitive subject, but she sounds like Porky Pig when he pops his head out at the end of a Looney Tunes episode.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

awww, i want HER to talk about the judiciary

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin is definitely coming across better on radio, which is how I'm doing it.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

better than TV I mean, not better than Biden

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

find a way to work together = compromise you idiot

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

"As Governer, there have been times we have passed budgets I haven't vetoed."

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

she's very stagey, and visibly rehearsed and non-emotive on tv

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did Ifill just say "Biopartisanship"?

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

the TV visuals are terrible. She's frozen from the shoulders down, clearly reciting, blinking like a mofo and also hateful

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

UP THERE UP THERE UP THERE UP THERE

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

"As Governer, there have been times we have passed budgets I haven't vetoed." = "My weakness is that sometimes I am a perfectionist" in job interviews

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol stet

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

careful mentioning appointments, sarah!

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

"folks"

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

that biden answer was all over the place

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

a very diverse family omgwtflol

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes lol stet

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I've never questioned their judgment" -- um, is that a good thing?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dude was that a baby voice with the "It's gunna be ok"?!

Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

i lawst ma graspa anglash since watchen this dogawn dabate

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

MAINSTREAM MEDIA

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

nah, he said he's never questioned their MOTIVES

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

MSM MSM MSM

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

mainstream media

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm in big school now! YAY!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

DID SHE JUST HIT ON HIM?

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha she's been to america

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Middle class family like mine (but not John's)

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

SO BLESSED!

kate78, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Oh...right, we have to fight for our freedoms."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

REAGAN GAWD

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good grief

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

BUT SHE'S LOOKING BACKWARDS

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol blame Couric for your unrehearsed ignorance

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

BACK IN TEH DAY!!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

SUNSET YEARS

BACK IN THE DAY

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

what is this bullshit storybook ending

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

damn that Reagan quote is the only joined up talking she's managed in an hour and a half

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

SHE IS MAKING ME FEEL PHYSICAL PAIN

sleeve, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

EVER. FOUGHT. FOR YOU.

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

god that was like a "left behind" book

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

dark days a comin

omar little, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

How is CNN going?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

FUN-damental

sensual harrassment (naus), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

exxon zing II!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden's boring, but in a good safe-pair-of-hands way like the captain of a plane.

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

GREW UP IN

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

apparently all of CNN's uncommitted women in the focus group want to bone Biden

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

biden's boring, but in a good safe-pair-of-hands way like the captain of a plane.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

That was a good ending

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

McCain and Obama debate Tom Brokaw!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Another do-nothing debate for McCain/Palin.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought his closing was very good.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

SELFISHLY????

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

corny yet effective

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

set and SPIKE god protect our troops thank you and good night!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

third and fourth invocations of the almighty

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol at squeaky palin thank you so much!

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ramesh Ponnuru on Palin
Posted by: Feddie
Thursday, October 2, 2008 at 09:21PM
0 Comments
As many of y'all know, National Review Online is down right now. Well, my good friend Ramesh Ponnuru and I have been emailing one another throughout the debate, and I asked him if I could post his thoughts on Governor Palin's performance during the vice-presidential debate tonight. He graciously agreed, so here they are:

Any conservative who was white-knuckled going into this is relaxing by now. There were some points where she was a bit more platitudinous than one would ideally want, but overall--she's cleaning up. Biden is sighing more as the night goes on, and I can see why.
I could not agree more. Well done, Governor Palin! You did us proud.

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

god it's an orgy up there

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

"thank you for that!"

i think she was shitting bricks the whole time

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ugh. All commentators feign neutrality immediately afterwards.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden's talking her ear off!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

chuck todd trashing biden

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

she didn't have a clue up there imo and i think biden did well but i don't think it will make a lick of difference

omar little, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

The "we need to embiggen my role" thing should get some play tomorrow

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

ooh... CNN online video is covering the milling about the stage.

And after the show there's the after party/ And after the party there's the hotel lobby.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's the baby! LIFT SIMBA ALOFT!

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

ugh, i just blew an hour of study time for this

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Charlie Gibson: "I dont' think you can come away from this without respecting both these candidates."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sully:

10.30 pm. Biden's sobriety and authority and call for fundamental change is both reasonable and solid. It will resonate, I think. As you can read, I began this debate feeling that she was steam-rolling him. She was. But it was a steam-roller coming at you on fumes, not real fuel. She doesn't have it. Maybe one day she might. But not now. Biden's peroration was very, very strong. There is no contest here. There was only one loser: Gewn Ifill. She was intimidated, peripheral, neutered. The rules didn't help. But Ifill put in a dreadful performance.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin's had a big day, I think she deserves ice cream.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ugh. All commentators feign neutrality immediately afterwards.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, October 2, 2008 4:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol switch to MSNBC

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

quick question: palin quotes "city on a hill" as reagan--is this who the line is commonly associated with? i mean, duz it automatically mean 'reagan' and not 'puritans'? (John Winthrop?)

thomp, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol the Palin's left early/ Biden's still kicking it

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah it's reagan now xpost

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

ifill was atrocious

stet, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palins/Bidens

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Iffil didnt give a fuck

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

339am going to bed

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ifill got out of the way, like the government oughta.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gerry Ferraro's on NBC proving while she was the dullest veep candidate ever.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg MSNBC <3 <3 <3 Rachael Maddow <3 <3 <3 "palin was borderline CARTOON-EY with her gimmicky folksiness" ... "like she was portraying a character instead of being herself"

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Begala's point is good, that Palin's job tonight was to rehabilitate Sarah Palin, and she did okay.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pat Buchanan: "of the four debaters we've seen, she was the most engaging and attractive we've seen" loooool

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

hang on who pays pat buchanan mind

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rachel Maddow: "next person who winks at me, I don't know if I can take it" LOL

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

McLaughlin and his group

burt_stanton, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ooo. SNL Live Election Updates every Thursday. Exciting!

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pat Buchanan: "of the four debaters we've seen, she was the most engaging and attractive we've seen"

no homo

I think this debate will not change the minds of anyone who has already decided. They both did what they set out to do.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

CBS and NBC have both said the Iraq questions generated the most interest.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought palin did well on this. didnt seem nervous or unprepared to me, and now I'm wondering if talking to a big group, several feet away from the nearest other person is more her style than one-on-one interviews. also, my gut feeling is she helped her ticket more than Biden helped his -- not that Biden hurt his ticket, but he did seem more like a "democratic politician" where palin seemed like a "passionate conservative". small difference, but one that imo gave her a slight edge tonight overall.

and before I am skewed and/or shunned, I will note I thought close to the opposite about the obama/mccain debate!

Dominique, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

she delivered the whole fucking thing like a goddamn sportscenter anchor

al gore rhythm nation (m bison), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

palin seemed HELL OF nervous

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Matthew Dowd: Joe Biden won this debate.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://mediacurves.com/

sensual harrassment (naus), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

cnn voter panel overwhelmingly say biden won

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I cannot endure another 4 years of a regime that cannot properly pronounce "NUCLEAR". ARRRGGGGGHHHHHhhhh!

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Link, YGS?

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

"palin was borderline CARTOON-EY with her gimmicky folksiness" ... "like she was portraying a character instead of being herself"

^^^ a meme that will have traction. Seen it elsewhere too.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

ana marie cox the maria d of cnn

danbunny, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost to gr80, did pick up on the voice trembling, which would have been humanizing if she was in a public speech class.

al gore rhythm nation (m bison), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG there's a weird cross-eyed hipster republican in the cnn panel!!!!

this is on tv mordy

WHO THINKS OBAMA WILL WIN THE ELECTION: almost everyone raises their hand

YGS, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

any pundits talking about the biden choking up?

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

that nuclear answer was crrrrazy

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

in addition to her voice trembling she was TALKING SO FAST

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

she was all set to go to weather or sports

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

hipster republican

this is not physically possible.

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

so many posters passed out

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

caek: "palin was borderline CARTOON-EY with her gimmicky folksiness" ... "like she was portraying a character instead of being herself"

^^^ a meme that will have traction. Seen it elsewhere too.

caek: OTM. Seemed too Andy Griffith folksy to be legit.

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is not physically possible.

YGS, you're talking about the girl in green on the left in the front row, right? Dunno if she was "hipster," but she was fish-out-of-watery.

David R., Friday, 3 October 2008 02:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hewitt is tickled:

After the wave of assaults on her , Sarah Palin shows the nation why John McCain picked her and why the center-right loves her. She has a great night. Joe Biden does well too, but this was all about Sarah Palin, and she delivered a strong, strong message of energy and change.

The one great line of the debate: "It is so obvious that I am a Washington outsider," Palin says, "soemone just not used to the way you guys operate" as she points out Joe Biden's attempt to doubletalk his way to Obama's position.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

mccaskill on msnbc: confused about palin wanting to "increase vp's powers via constitution"

hm

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

9:37 CDT: [Nate] I think this one is likely to go to Biden in the post-debate polling, and perhaps by a fair margin. The expectations game is much more important for the media than for the public, and for a lot of people, she's going to come across as too scripted, come across way too close to the SNL caricature.

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

in the sense that they were being measured against expectation, Palin at least halfway overperformed, mostly on style (camera-focus and energy level positives; looking like a deer in headlights, speaking gibberish and explicitly running away from questions), and Biden at least slightly underperformed (in not being Vice Presidential or tough or sunny - in the early rounds - enough). and especially in the sense that this was all about Palin, she may therefore have won.

however, on a level playing field, we saw one relaxed, if slightly tired-looking, candidate who clearly knew what he was talking about and is ready to do the job, and one candidate whose nerves showed through moments of confidence and clearly knew little about the issues or the job to anyone able to discern such things.

so on style/expectations, Palin may have pulled a minor win and might help McCain a tiny bit before the next debate. but I don't think people gave her much of a handicap, and I don't think she convinced many people she's much prepared for the job. so while it wasn't the epic fail we all hoped for, Sarah Palin still = Fail.

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

caek!!! You noted Biden choking up too! I thought it might just be me mishearing his comment!!! I will be interested in hearing if anyone DOES comment upon it.

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

looking like a deer in headlights, speaking gibberish and explicitly running away from questions

negatives, of course

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

also, to the extent that this was all about Palin, it's even less important that Biden turned in an A- rather than an A

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

NBC: Despite the fact that Palin got the surge numbers wrong and referred to the commanding general in Afghanistan as the civil war general "McClellan" did good!

brownie, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

nate silver otm i think, ive been wondering how far they can take this folksy republican past the line of self-parody. shes on another level from bush in the cowboy hat

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 02:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

gabbneb - that was my 1st thought when I saw her up there "deer in the headlights"

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 02:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

when she said twice she'd seen his debates from earlier in the campaign, i so so so wanted him to say "i'm sure you've been watching a lot of debates the last few days, Sarah." don't care who wouldn't like it.

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

OH my god, I actually drank with every reference to Scranton, "Nuke-ya-lurr", AND Maverick- so drunk now. One Konig Ludwig, one entire bottle of Unibrouwe Terrible, AND a full bottle of Fantome . .. can barely walk . . . sentences unclear

Drew Daniel, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Heheh...did you folks hear Biden say "Drill, Drill, Drill"? I thought of you all (or at least those of you who know Wire).

The More You Live The Faster You Will Die (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

countdown opening was lol

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol someone in the background of the shot on msnbc w/ a "TINA FEY 08" sign

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

i also hope a lot of people watched the post-debate body language with biden the warm, assured father type showing concern for the evidently nervous-if-not-freaking-out-on-the-inside palin

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

countdown opening was lol

― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, October 2, 2008 5:01 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is he really calling this a KO in favor of biden???? loool

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

ugh my democrat mom thought "she looked beautiful and spoke good"

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

heh heh heh - The drill drill dril; comment even had Palin smirking!

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't think i'm really equipped to say how the ridiculous pholksy phrases will play where it counts, but i kinda suspect that people know a gimmick when they see one, especially after recent events with john mccain

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

is he really calling this a KO in favor of biden???? loool

not really

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Vic, is there a way to explain to your Mom that most of what she said was incoherent babble? that she doesn't know what "attributed to" means, for instance?

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

one entire bottle of Unibrouwe Terrible

?!?

never seen this one -- is it as tasty (and as strong) as Trois Pistoles or Fin Du Monde?

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

"i don't think i'm really equipped to say how the ridiculous pholksy phrases will play where it counts, but i kinda suspect that people know a gimmick when they see one, especially after recent events with john mccain"

OMG gabbbeb, I so hope people see thru it for what it was - playing the the middle state audience!

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

watching sarah palin was the closest i've come to seeing someone vomit in public.

ian, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

gabbneb can you not pick fights with people's mothers, who don't even post here

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I will be interested in hearing if anyone DOES comment upon it.

they mentioned it on PBS. Honestly though it was no Muskie moment.

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think they're gonna put petraeus on the $20 bill

a passion for posting (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

ugh my democrat mom thought "she looked beautiful and spoke good"

― Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:03 (7 minutes ago) Permalink

terrible

Surmounter, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

If Palin Becomes Veep [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Joe Six-Pack would have won. It will be the Joe Six-Pack election.

10/02 09:14 PM

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah my democrat mom thought she did well too, although it seems that for most people as long as palin didn't go full retard they would call the debate for her.

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

what was that "shout out to the third graders" bullshit

Maverick (Mr. Que), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

her exact peers?

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

"she won by not losing"

i'm just surprised the analysts aren't focusing more on the actual debate. just on who spoke like what.

Surmounter, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought she did ok when she was off script, in the segment on foreign policy, when she attacked Biden on his disagreements with Obama on Iraq. o/w she was non-responsive to questions. Biden seemed fine, killed it a couple of times, hung in there the rest of the time.

It was mostly about McCain: that was Biden's goal, and he stuck to it; and Palin seemed to have the same goal. Obama came up a lot at first, less so as the debate wen ton. Biden seemed to make a point of not responding to Palin's views, but to McCain's views, making sure the focus stayed on McCain rather than Palin.

Peter Cetera (Euler), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden getting choked up vid is available here: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/vpdebate.videos/index.html

It got to me, at least.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

me too :(

Surmounter, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

palin did well, but only in not blanking out/no embarrassing silences, etc. it was impressive enough that she was at that level of coherence, but it precluded any actual attacks; it's like last week, when obama attacked mccain and mccain attacked bush - it was only biden that got to really lay into them on the basis of records. i think the dems probably won the news cycle thing; biden looked shifty throughout, but when he'd go for the camera he was bold, spoke with gravitas, etc.

i still can't believe that she raised the 'you're pointing at the past' thing twice without getting pulled up on it/allowing venerable biden to dispatch lofty condemned-to-repeat-itself cliches. biden WIN for courting undecideds with his fluency, palin SECOND PLACE PRIZE for doing her base proud.

no women's rights questions though, despite roe/wade and biden mentioning introducing the act he wrote: disappointing.

schlump, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden killed in all categories on MediaCurves.com

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

It may already have been discussed, but since I seem to be the infrequent and absentee ILXor, I pose a question to all here: I reside in CA. Even in this left leaning state I hear people that I know to be left leaning saying the following things:
1) Obama should have taken Hil as the Veep. It would have helped him to win
2) (This one irks and scares me)No matter what he says and stands for, Obama will never win this election b/c of the many votes held by the middle states; be they democ or repub they simply won't elect a black man as pres of the US b/c they're still to old skool bigots. Comments?

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol klo posted this:

FOX NEWS
Has their text message poll in Blue for Biden and Pink for Palen. For real.

1) Obama should have taken Hil as the Veep. It would have helped him to win

lol of course u say that, but if that had happened he wouldnt have picked sarah palin

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

true indeed. Two women on the ticket would equal a big nothing

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

klo:

PALIN’S PROBLEM
Is she doesn’t have thorough substantive comebacks. I don’t think it will matter to people. It will matter to MSNBC. They’re not people. They’re left-wingbots

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mom: 'Admit it, you were impressed. I bet she was faking all those dumb answers to Katie Couric to soften people up for that.'

S: 'I already knew she could debate using five sets of GOPAC taking points, but if she's into wasting the time of journalists and by extension the voters in this very important election, that shows plus de ego and minus de common sense.'

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

THE MOST DISTURBING PART OF THAT DEBATE
May have been Biden’s veep answer. Someone get that man a pocket Constitution. The Heritage Foundation should do a drop tomorrow.

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

RESPECT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS??!?!

― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:50 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^

I know.

― Fr. Jemima Racktouey (ENBB), Thursday, October 2, 2008 6:52 PM (1 minute ago)

― kate78, Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

also, it was very satisfying to hear Biden talk about Cheny's unconstitutional expansion of the vice-presidency in exactly the tone merited, i.e. alarm. wtf @ Sarah Palin endorsing Cheney's power hunger?

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

can I just say that there is no letter K in Ahmenidijad? Both of them kept pronouncing it Akmedinijad. Not that anyone cares, especially since Palin kept trotting out nukular and all.

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

her suit and shoes were beautiful.

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism i don't think it reads as wrong to anyone in the west.

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

black guy + woman ticket would have been countered by reliable, avuncular, sparring back-to-back photo-op white-guy duo, who would've romped home.

xp affirmative to women's rights. that should have been a question, it involves the two of them in such diametrically opposed ways.

schlump, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

not as big a deal as the fact that she never made any fucking sense or completed any of her sentences.

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

i meant her mispronunciation isn't as big a deal, not her utter, disgusting hypocrisy about women's rights.

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

hear hear and right on horseshoe! and she didn't once answer coherently (again).

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin Tonight [Mark R. Levin]

I have been involved in and observed politics for a long time. Governor Palin is a truly unique national figure. She is down to earth, personable, and smart as hell. That's right. She has been on the national scene for a little over a month, she has been campaigning everywhere, she has had to bone up on all kinds of national issues, and she has shown class throughout. Too often too many are persuaded by the mainstream media's opinion and react to that. This should be another lesson in that regard. As for some of her populist views, she cannot openly campaign against the positions of her presidential running mate. She is the bright light in this campaign from my perspective.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't remember the particular question but the most egregious case of not answering the question had to be where the question was about bankrupcy reform and she said "my answer is no" and then starting talking about oil? wtf?

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah but she actually said "and since that was such a short answer, let me adress energy..."

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd love to be able to get away with that during an exam.

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I don't know anything about the life of Peter, but let me tell you about the life of Jesus..."

Mordy, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol:

K-Lo

An e-mail: "She failed to answer many of the questions. If a man gave this performance he would have been cruicified."

I think any curve grade — and I don't really think you had to grade on a curve to say she won — is granted because she is new to this, not because she's a chick.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

MSM BIAS

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

stop lying about my record, Mr. Que

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't know if anybody already mentioned this in the thread, but did she really equate Iran, North Korea and CUBA?

forksclovetofu, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well she equatored Akman, Kim Jong and the Castro Brothers, yes.

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism

Pardon, the proper term is "Asian."

Leee, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

canonical orientalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Doesn't arbitrarily picking out Cuba to play pinch hitter in a manufactured axis of evil smack of Bush-style desperation and ill-considered inflammatory? It kinda stopped me dead in my tracks.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah that was pretty whaaaaaaaat

TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

― TOMBOT, Friday, October 3, 2008 3:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


yo this book is good shit

it be me, me, me and timothy (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

especially since the question was about pakistan, right? she mentioned basically every country ever except pakistan in the "answer."

TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

WE WILL NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH THE CASTRO BROTHERS!

Alex in SF, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

the Castro Brothers is def the best takeaway from this

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey there you are
where you go

Office Cat is Eating the Monitor Again (kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

pronouncing Ahmed "Ackmed" is such a canonical orientalism i don't think it reads as wrong to anyone in the west.

― horseshoe, Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:29 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

People always used to pronounce the name of former NBA player Mahmoud Abdul Rauf with that "k" sound, too.

jaymc, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Halperin gives them both a B, with Palin graded on more of a curve, says it changes no fundamentals

gabbneb, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Worst Hypothetical Rapper Names

john mccain's illegitimate black child (musically), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

> Vic, is there a way to explain to your Mom that most of what she said was incoherent babble? that she doesn't know what "attributed to" means, for instance?

Oh, my mom still assured me that "we're (dad + her) voting Democrats, i don't like what she says," but that "she looked good and spoke well." The superficial "looking good" thing kind of registers w/ her, unfortunately - though I tried to tell her how Palin was looking gross w/ all the over-winking. As my parents are Pennsylvanians I'm v concerned abt whatever they're thinking

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 03:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok now there's a guy behind chris matthews with a "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION DESERVED AN AWARD" sign.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sarah Palin: Clean and articulate!

rogermexico., Friday, 3 October 2008 04:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok now there's a guy behind chris matthews with a "SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION DESERVED AN AWARD" sign.

a guy rules and is otm

TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Race, Status Quo Ante; For Palin, Late Night Jokes Could Cease

^^^ummm ... no @ halperin

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

blubbing becomes the story, no one will remember the rest of the debate. Dems win.

― caek, Friday, October 3, 2008 3:23 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

This is wrong, by the way.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's not as if she answered any of the questions in any depth; she seemed primarily to give a one sentence answer and then launch into the pre-programmed response she's been prepping for the past two weeks.

This was most ugly and glaring when she was asked if lack of experience isn't her biggest failing, what her true Achilles heel was and she responded to the question by talking about how her Experience Matters. To be fair she produced a good strong speech there, really well written and delivered, but it didn't even come close to addressing the question! She heard "not experienced" and clicked play on the tape with a big ol' smile that read "ah, I know this one!" As an ex-theater major (god help me), that's the exact type of satisfaction I used to see on the faces of freshmen with a dash of talent who would just beam with the enjoyment of knowing all the words. Biden, on the other hand, heard the question and was really nimble about turning a positive to a negative in an eloquent turn of a phrase about how he had to learn not to accept Supreme Court Justices based solely on their competence.

The bar was so low that she cleared it easily; heaven save us from low expectations.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

another dude with one that says:

"HEY PALIN:
I,L,TC TOO"

????????????

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I love tooting coke"

forksclovetofu, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

^new board suggestion

forksclovetofu, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

i heart MSNBC, god

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

THIS DEBATE WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT SO BORING FU

joe six pak (ice crӕm), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

another dude with one that says "NIXON'S HEAD FOR PRESIDENT"

and this--->

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

"MY CHAIR IS STILL BROKEN"

is that an office space joke?

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

"TIRE SWINGS ARE NOT TOYS"

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Results 1 - 10 of about 38 for "palin comparison to joe biden". (0.30 seconds)

Pillbox, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

my fav thing about the debate was when Joe Biden said "Bush"

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

You mean the repetition of "the same as Bush's"? It had a nice cadence.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

ONE PRO-LIFE ACTIVIST SAYS
I’m back where I was a month ago. I wasn’t where Kathleen parker was but I was starting to waiver. My daughter made a “Sarah Rocks” sign that we have on the back of our minivan. I was starting to not feel so good about it. I’m back where I was a month ago. Sarah does, in fact, rocks.

rocks

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

your official media reaction: "Gov. Sarah Palin made it through the vice-presidential debate on Thursday without doing any obvious damage to the Republican presidential ticket. "

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

AOL polling:

Who won the debate?
Sarah Palin 47%
Joe Biden 46%
It was a draw 7%
Total Votes: 153,879

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

HAY GUYS DID JOE BIDEN BRING TIGHT GAME OR WUuuuutt

goole, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah he was awesome

horseshoe, Friday, 3 October 2008 04:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

sens. barack obama and joe biden make for a pretty formidable presidential ticket it's true

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

ban laol polls

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

i vote in lots of aol polls if that gives you any indication (netscape will rise again!)

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol chris matthews trying to find ONE mccain supporter outside in the crowd at 12am

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Friday, 3 October 2008 04:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

this debate turned into a non-event thanks in great part to ifill, who let the participants (and particularly palin) get away with basically whatever they felt like getting away with. palin announced at the outset that she wasn't going to answer the questions, and ifill utterly capitulated. i'm just fucking aghast at the fact that this is possible. i know politicians will seek to avoid answering questions if it suits them, but for fuck's sake, i thought one of the minimal duties of a moderator is to at least put up some challenge, on behalf of the electorate, who after all, is supposed to become more informed via these debates. FFS at least have the decency to pretend like you will try to enforce the basic rules of the contest.

i'm sure it'll be mentioned that ifill was overcompensating for the "Age of Obama"-related conflict of interest charge, but sorry, that's not enough for me.

Biden was great tonight, btw.

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 3 October 2008 05:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

wow, when it became clear that my drinking game rules weren't gonna fuck me up fast enough me and my buddy added "deregulation" "nukular" and "maverick" to the list of drink words. at the end there when palin and biden were both spouting off "maverick" every other sentence i was pounding away my beer so fast that i was just chugging straight foam, which of course resulted in the projectile vomiting of said foam (luckily i was quick enough to make it to the toilet).

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 October 2008 05:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm glad we have at least one person who can admit this debate gave them emesis

TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2008 06:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

one of the strongest of Biden's lines which he treated like a throwaway is that mccain's position is behind the curve given recent bush-maliki talks (whether that's true or not it would stick if they say it, like, again.)
MCCAIN WANTS EVEN MORE WAR THAN BUSH hello

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 06:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw aol polls being that close just go to show that obama is gonna win big imo. this was probably mentioned upthread but cnn: 51% biden, 36% palin, the rest called it a draw. cbs: 46% biden, 21% palin, the rest called it a draw.

omar little, Friday, 3 October 2008 06:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

i haven't read this thread, i just saw sigur ros and came back to find out the cubs suck more than i thought so i'm gonna play catch up on the drinking game now.

omar little, Friday, 3 October 2008 06:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Why are the CNN clips out of order? Makes it looks like Palin got a nifty zing in, when actually Biden had disproved her statement twice, once forcefully, but she kept hammering at the point like... a hammer. A bag of hammers, I guess.

I'm glad we have at least one person who can admit this debate gave them emesis

Not me, but there was a good bit of foaming.

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 06:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

also, never add "bipartisan" to a political debate drinking game.

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 October 2008 06:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

love when she just copies biden's darfur 'no fly zone' proposal. she's a scrapper i'll give her that.

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 06:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

ifill, who let the participants (and particularly palin) get away with basically whatever they felt like getting away with

Seems like Biden joined in the off-topic party when realized that was apparently what the rules were going to be. I don't blame him at all. When in Bizarro World...

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 06:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Doesn't arbitrarily picking out Cuba to play pinch hitter in a manufactured axis of evil smack of Bush-style desperation and ill-considered inflammatory?

Put his tight little butt in the honcho chair for a good while, didn't it?

Herb Hitts, Bad Vibe magazine (kenan), Friday, 3 October 2008 06:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Someone please tell me. Is this Sarah Palin or someone else?

I saw this right after she was announced but it doesn't look like the lady that is running these days. Is it a really old photo or someone totally different?

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 3 October 2008 07:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

what the hell
that's someone else

jeepski (jergins), Friday, 3 October 2008 07:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2008 07:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

heheh yeah. thats gotta be like a pornstar. or some anonymous chair model for an office catalog

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 3 October 2008 07:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Paul is Dead?

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 3 October 2008 07:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

david brooks calls it a draw everybody

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 08:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

"her mistake with katie couric was to try to be a wonk."

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 08:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

wonks be reading periodicals

hoops (tremendoid), Friday, 3 October 2008 08:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

updated AOHell poll - yeahh!

Who won the debate?
Joe Biden 47%
Sarah Palin 45%
It was a draw 8%
Total Votes: 223,997
Note on Poll Results

Who would make a better vice president?
Joe Biden 51%
Sarah Palin 46%
I'm not sure 3%
Total Votes: 217,224

Vichitravirya_XI, Friday, 3 October 2008 10:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

every time palin has opened her mouth shes told a really obvious lie and/or said something undeniably retarded

I'm pretty confident the Dems have this election, so I'm not all Scanners about this

from the outside, this is pretty much kerry/bush all over again.

darraghmac, Friday, 3 October 2008 11:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

IFILL: Would you like to have an opportunity to answer that before we move on?

PALIN: I’m still on the tax thing because I want to correct you on that again. And I want to let you know what I did as a mayor and as a governor. And I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I’m going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also.

gnnnnghhh

lex pretend, Friday, 3 October 2008 11:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I haven't read any of the commentary yet, but it strikes me now that her "I don't have to answer questions from the moderator, or answer questions from you [Biden], I only have a responsibility to talk to the American people [*wink*]" thing was her (pre-scripted) attempt at Ferraro's "don't condescend to me, Bush" moment.

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Friday, 3 October 2008 11:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Palin did herself some good, Biden did himself some good, nothing changes therefore a win for Obama/Biden.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 3 October 2008 11:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Looooooooooooooooool at TV commentators falling all over themselves to congratulate Palin for holding her own last night. Bullshit - these sissies just don't wanna be accused of sexism ala Hillary.

Biden was ON-POINT. His closing statement bodyslammed Palin's by laying things out clear and being non-partisan. I need a transcript of that.

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 3 October 2008 12:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've never seen any of these two talk before. Biden really impressed me. Palin also made a big impression, nails-on-chalkboard style.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 October 2008 12:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

I haven't seen anybody else comment on Palin accidentally giving her closing statement in answer to the last question, and then when actual closing statement time came going uhhhhhh and thx again joe & gwen & i <3 u scott & big up wasilla crew

me & drinking crew lol'd

BIG HAT like hoos (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 3 October 2008 12:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

also @ first instance of nukuler i heard myself scream OH GOD I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER

BIG HAT like hoos (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 3 October 2008 12:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Reading the transcript this morning, I tried to figure out what provoked Biden's Cry Moment. Palin didn't attack him or imply that he was less of a parent for being a single dad.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 3 October 2008 12:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

It was thinking of his lost kid + concern for the safety of his son I thought?

BIG HAT like hoos (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 3 October 2008 12:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

lolz

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/words-matter-an.html

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 3 October 2008 12:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh god CNN "She clearly was the folksy winner of tonight"

BIG HAT like hoos (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 3 October 2008 12:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Palin also made a big impression, nails-on-chalkboard style."

no shit. no-one else seems to note that her voice has an extremeley grating nervous waver to it that gets especially noticable when she's asked a challenging question, she sounds like she's on the verge of panic.

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

also, her constant claims that she is middle class.... i wish Biden had called her on that. At least he admitted he was much better off now than he ever was before he was a senator. She's worth over a million dollars. I know rich people don't like to think they're rich but she is, by any measure I use.

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

where is the transcript quote of her folksy run rejoinder, "say it ain't so joe good golly gosh and darn?"

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

folksy run-on rejoinder that is

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

IFILL: Governor?

PALIN: Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education and I’m glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?

lex pretend, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

and I think the bigger point about Biden's choking up moment was how awkward it was to go back to Palin afterward who didn't acknowledge it. she was clearly tasked with being "friendly" to contrast with how McCain was perceived in the first debate (asking at the beginning if she could call him Joe, running over to shake his hand, etc) but in the heat of the moment when it called for some kind of acknowledgement she went right on in automaton mode and talked about I don't know what. It was like she wasn't even listening

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

also @ first instance of nukuler i heard myself scream OH GOD I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER

^^ oh man this.

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Incredible that bit where she claimed a desire for MORE power than Cheney.

Birth of a twittering monster.

i, grey, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

PALIN: Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again.

biden not calling her on this is the biggest failure of the night, i think. it so succinctly summarises the republican attempt to ignore their recent record in favour of bland promises of reform and change.

her gall in being the one saying the following was really ridiculous too:

We’re tired of the old politics as usual. And that’s why, with all due respect, I do respect your years in the U.S. Senate, but I think Americans are craving something new and different and that new energy and that new commitment that’s going to come with reform.

I think that’s why we need to send the maverick from the Senate and put him in the White House.

schlump, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seriously I was kinda surprised he called her on the wonk stuff ("well that was a procedural vote") and not on the narrative stuff.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Disappointed I guess is the word. No big quotables from either one (how I pine for the days of "wanna buy some wood?")

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

her cynical smirk every time biden talked was infuriating, i was trying not to look at her awful smug face.

estela, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

"ALIN: Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again.

biden not calling her on this is the biggest failure of the night, i think."

well he simply said "Past is prologue, right?" which succinctly deflated her entire pointless rant.

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i can't even remember what that "wanna buy some wood" line was about!

akm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought both of them played it v defensively/safely, as if they were concentrating more on not screwing up than on attacking, so for palin this meant ignoring the questions to trot out her scripts, and amping up the ridiculous folksiness, while biden seemed to be very numbers and statistics focused. so it meant it was neither game-changing nor particularly entertaining. apart from the "bridge to nowhere" zing!

lex pretend, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Biden's heartfelt choke-up was also nicely timed to distract from him/us thinking "oh crap, did he really say 'just because I'm a man?'"

nabisco, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Economist had "past is prologue" as the line of the night, although I don't think he delivered it prominently enough.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

no idea but i remember losing my shit at the time xxxp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lex how in the world can you characterize Palin's position as "defensive?" The main non-platitudinous substance of the "scripts" he had involved challenges on Obama/Biden senate votes, which Biden was left responding to (defense) through about a third of the debate.

nabisco, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

P.S. guys it was "I own a timber company? That's news to me. [ten minute pause during which Bush minces around like Bill Cosby thinking up a kicker] Need some wood?"

nabisco, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, she wasn't on the defensive at all. That would have required improvisation, thinking on her feet and an in-depth knowledge of the issues, none of which she has. Biden got in a lot of free hits as a result.

caek, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

fave part - joe kinda snapping after hearing "maverick" for 372nd time of the night and pretty much calling bullshit. loved it!!!

flyover statesman (will), Friday, 3 October 2008 13:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

"safe" rather than defensive then

lex pretend, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "safe" is better -- per caek and per earlier predictions, Palin on a scripted attack completely neutralizes her great flaw (apparent inability to discuss knowledgeably in real time). The few times Biden's responses got handed back to her for extra time, she didn't have much beyond repeating the original charge, like "yeah, well, whatever, but that's not how you voted."

nabisco, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

ie defensive strategy though not defensive tactics, I'd say.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was hoping all night that Joe would say something like "Taking on your own party is only admirable if you're on the right side of the issue, and where John has done so he has been wrong."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Maverick he is not" was a nice zing in that regard, but I wanted not just "he is Bush 2, no maverick" but "he's wrong!"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Look, let's talk about the maverick John McCain is. And again I love him, he's been a maverick on some issues but he's been no maverick on things that a matter people's lives. He voted four out of five times for George Bush's budget which put us half a trillion in debt this year and over three trillion in debt since he got there. He has not been a maverick in providing health care for people. He voted against including another 3.6 million children in coverage of an existing health care plan in the United States Senate. He's not been a maverick when it comes to education. He has not supported tax cuts and significant changes for people being able to send their kids to college, he's not been a maverick on the war, not been a maverick on virtually anything that generally affects the things people really talk about around the kitchen table. Can we get mom's MRI? Can we send Mary back to school next semester? We can't make it. How will we heat the house this winter? He even voted against what they call LIHEAP, for assistance for people with oil prices going through the roof in the winter. So a maverick he is not, on the important critical issues that affect people at the kitchen table.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

he's been no maverick on things that a matter people's lives

it's-a me, biden!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

P.S. guys it was "I own a timber company? That's news to me. [ten minute pause during which Bush minces around like Bill Cosby thinking up a kicker] Need some wood?"

Swear to gawd, that and the 2000 "howzit goin', can I help you?" look he gave Gore as Gore tried to be alpha male endeared me to Shrubya for almost one second.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 3 October 2008 14:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol juan cole

Not only did she ignore most of Gwen Ifill's questions,she paid no attention to what Joe Biden said. When he choked up over the loss of his family, she did not have the decency to express any kind of condolences. It is almost as though she is autistic and unable to connect with human beings.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:07 (eight years ago) Permalink