this thread is about THE WACKNESS

About 15 seconds into this we've seen about 40807945293457 suggestions that THE YEAR IS 1994. Then they keep coming. They got really grating, but that aside, this is an entertaining if overlong bildungsroman. Nothing special, but watching a kid who loves hip-hop (white btw) try to make the transition into young adulthood had some resonance for me. Can't imagine it'd do much if that's not your demo though.

Ben Kingsley is clearly channeling Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting as the insecure therapist having trouble keeping it together (at points he even adopts a similar voice!), but he's fun to watch and it's a weird kind of o_O schadenfreude seeing him hook up with an Olsen twin.

Famke Jannsen puts no effort into this.

There's a great moment where Luke is picking up more weed from his supplier (Method Man actually pretty convincing as a rastafarian) and dude is playing "The What" from Ready to Die (on which Method Man raps) really loud.

"Who is this?"
"It's that neeeeeeew shit. He Biggie!"
"It's dope!"

Meth talking over his own lines got a :D from me.

There were also a few smh/snoop.gif clunker lines that were like THIS IS INTENDED TO BE THE LINE YOU PUT ON YOUR FACEBOOK PROFILE.

"I only look at the dopeness in things...you only look at the wackness."

so are you trying to tell us this BIG HOOS THE MOVIE or what

loll

vahid otm

lol I like how this thread is pretty much all HOOS. Good thread :D

haha
i liked this movie. its very 'sweet'. but its kinda underwhelming
the 90s shit didnt bother me at all tho. and a fly girls dancing to nas number is A+

reading a lot of the reviews of this movie involve more wincing than any of the times he says things like "i got mad love for you shorty"

this was surprisingly good

just out of curiosity...

Results 1 - 10 of about 830 for "the wackness" wigger. (0.22 seconds)

fuck that

Contrary to the Katherine Heigl-type neurotic, beautiful, and responsible female lead, Thirby plays the indie-standard ideal female, what I like to call the "Quirky Aggressive". She's pretty without makeup, wears Converse, and says quirky and aggressive things.

SIGNS YOU ARE A QUIRKY AGGRESSIVE FEMALE:

#1.) You do drugs or you like talking about how you do drugs.

#2.) You use unique, half-witty, half-annoying sayings like "Dudesies!", "For YAYs" and make jokes about "Rim Jobs" because you are so cool with your sexuality.

#3.) On dates, rather than awkwardness, you manifest your wants/needs/insecurities through aggressive lines like "So when are you going to kiss/fuck/lick my C???"

(Advice: Quirky Aggressives are only beloved in indie films. Please do not try to be one in real life. Do not make rim job and poop jokes on dates. For the first few months your dude will be all like, "OMG, you're so cool and funny! You're not like other girls!" because you said something about giving "Nietzche a BlowJ" or some Quirky Aggressive-esque bullshit, but then after about six months the charm wears off and you find yourself being hushed in public places or cringed at just for telling your old, beloved rim job joke! You are being silenced, Quirky Aggressive. But Quirky Aggressives won't be silenced so they keep going, because, like, they're quirky and aggressive, and shutting up for a dude is so antithetical to their personality.

^^^lolz

i'm sure this movie is fine but i really don't understand anyone paying actual money to see it in a movie theater

people pay to see much worse

i can get in free which is the only reason i'd go, i think

that 'quirky aggressive' thing doesnt really seem to describe her in this movie?? shes not particularly quirky anyway

At first glance, it doesn't look like it's going to be much fun being around Luke Shapiro, who's graduating high school in 1994 NYC. He flaunts that era's annoying "wigger" speech--"I'm mad depressed, yo," he tells his shrink.

w2g variety
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=review&id=2471&reviewid=VE1117935832

Thirby's character is more like ... aggressive hedonist. shes not playing juno or some shit

I think this would have been my favorite shit if I had seen it when I had just gotten out of high school.

is the girl in this one of those wish-fulfillment movie girls who are all take-charge sexually and who go after the passive loser dude because he's the protagonist?

like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYe04K667Dg

is he meant to be like tele in "kids" or something?

is the girl in this one of those wish-fulfillment movie girls who are all take-charge sexually and who go after the passive loser dude because he's the protagonist?

-- Jordan, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

no, shes just an experienced chick who likes to sleep around and breaks dude's heart

she snorts ritalin but for some reason that didnt strike me as a 'quirk,' just, like, a thing dumb kids trynna get fucked up are gonna do

why do potheads think their youth is so innaresting?

especially if it was in 1994

old curmudgeon in bitter about long-past youth non-shocka.

if only it was in the roaring 20s during the youth of dr morbius

ah yes the 1820s were a heady time

It was 1924.
The girls were flappers. The music was hot.
And Morbs just wanted some tea.

tsk tsk. why do you think they call it dope?

she snorts ritalin but for some reason that didnt strike me as a 'quirk,' just, like, a thing dumb kids trynna get fucked up are gonna do

-- deej, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:01 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah i knew plenty of kids in hs that did this

guys, you could not pay me to see this movie, but the lol-ratio on this thread has been truly impressive. thank you all.

i kind of agree with dr. morbius here, shocker

fuck all movies about teenagers

but theyre so SPECIAL

they have things to tell us about LIFE and BONGS

i dont see what his being a stoner has to do with anything

its a pretty standard by-numbers coming-of-age losing-virginity story set in a specific setting w/ some nice moments and an earnest style + some pretty good performances. not a great movie but really had nothing to do w/ stoners thinking their lives are oh so interesting

i did really like the fire island scene and thought that was beautifully shot

this sounds fucking awful btw

if anything, the weed has so little to do w/ the movie that its almost a drawback - its just like window dressing / set piece instead of giving some legit insight about the character

this sounds fucking awful btw

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:48 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

from the dude who's spent hours today hating on ac/dc

this is Shakey Mo's stopped clock-twice a day moment, then

what sounds so awful about it?

if someone who has actually seen it wants to weigh in that would be cool too

like the protagonist i also graduated from high school in manhattan in 1994 so i mainly saw it because of that. the "trustafarian kids w/ giuliani paranoia" aspect was pretty dead on. MKO's character reminded me of the deadheads i knew in school ('94 was still a year before jerry died); she also reminded me of rayanne from my so-called life.

tsk tsk. why do you think they call it dope?

Because it's dope.

its this year's "coming-of-age in NY" story only this time with wigger slang - but I'm just judging by the commercials. and the fact that the title is cringeworthy

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omg kid from Drake & Josh looking good!

xpost holy shit you really just used the word "wigger" for serious!??

jesus shakey

tsk tsk. why do you think they call it dope?

read one luc sante

yah who knew a timeless theme would continue to provide inspiration to filmmakers

I thought it was interesting that all the BIG MOVING SPEECH lines were immediately deflated by some other character's cynicism.

wtf dude its called THE WACKNESS its not like I'm making shit up here

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i thought they called heroin dope, not dope

dopest dope I ever smoked

yah title is hokey and when its spoken in the film its pretty wince-y but like i said its a mostly sweet movie and the slang isn't played for lulz and most of the time - mainly cuz of the good performance by the lead - it doesnt come across as gimmicky or cringeworthy

i'll weigh in and say i've been wanting to see it, deej

stories about youth aren't always so bad. i mean, just cuz you're young doesn't make you stupid. sure it does a lot of the time but not always.

i like the title and i assume it's supposed to sound kind of silly

the slang isn't played for lulz

This was key for me: the protag legitimately connects to the music and culture, and he's taken seriously instead of mocked.

I pretty much always want to see movies about teenagers, out of some combination of nostalgia for my own youth, envy of others' youth, and general curiosity. Plus, movies about teenagers are sort of inherently dramatic, because of all that adolescent tumult.

ya

what about gandhi

But Gandhi was still a rebellious teenager, and once, when he needed money, stole a bit of gold from his brother's jewelry. The crime haunted him so that he finally confessed to his father, expecting him to be angry and violent. Instead the old man wept.

"Those pearl drops of love cleansed my heart," Gandhi later wrote, "and washed my sin away." It was his first insight into the impressive psychological power of ahimsa, or nonviolence.

i keep hearing the title spoken in bruce mccullough's voice from this sketch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1si6M-vDEzI

I'd definitely watch a film about Gandhi coming of age with weed and rap music.

he should have been cast as the more experienced love interest

w Bruce McCullough as Gandhi

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He is, isn't he?

http://www.celebuzz.com/kingsley-olsens-may-december-nightmare-s25351/photos-31428461/

xxp

And here's the sequel for that flick.

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"No more Mr. Passive Resistance!" is one of my favourite movie lines ever.

all you heard was gandhi don't hurt me no more

/custos

i loved this retarded movie

also 78 posts and no one mentions this movie has a BEN KINGSLEY AND MARY KATE OLSEN MAKEOUT SCENE

wtf is wrong with you guys

POST # 2!!!

Ben Kingsley is clearly channeling Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting as the insecure therapist having trouble keeping it together (at points he even adopts a similar voice!), but he's fun to watch and it's a weird kind of o_O schadenfreude seeing him hook up with an Olsen twin.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:12 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Link

my bad, dawg

no worries :D

summer summer summertime

seeing this movie tonight made me really happy!

is the girl in this one of those wish-fulfillment movie girls who are all take-charge sexually and who go after the passive loser dude because he's the protagonist?

-- Jordan, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:55 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

passive loser dude 4 life

yes she kind of is but she's fine

676

dr. morbius otm fuiud

Contrary to the Katherine Heigl-type neurotic, beautiful, and responsible female lead, Thirby plays the indie-standard ideal female, what I like to call the "Quirky Aggressive". She's pretty without makeup, wears Converse, and says quirky and aggressive things.

SIGNS YOU ARE A QUIRKY AGGRESSIVE FEMALE:

#1.) You do drugs or you like talking about how you do drugs.

#2.) You use unique, half-witty, half-annoying sayings like "Dudesies!", "For YAYs" and make jokes about "Rim Jobs" because you are so cool with your sexuality.

#3.) On dates, rather than awkwardness, you manifest your wants/needs/insecurities through aggressive lines like "So when are you going to kiss/fuck/lick my C???"

(Advice: Quirky Aggressives are only beloved in indie films. Please do not try to be one in real life. Do not make rim job and poop jokes on dates. For the first few months your dude will be all like, "OMG, you're so cool and funny! You're not like other girls!" because you said something about giving "Nietzche a BlowJ" or some Quirky Aggressive-esque bullshit, but then after about six months the charm wears off and you find yourself being hushed in public places or cringed at just for telling your old, beloved rim job joke! You are being silenced, Quirky Aggressive. But Quirky Aggressives won't be silenced so they keep going, because, like, they're quirky and aggressive, and shutting up for a dude is so antithetical to their personality.

is sarah silverman a quirky aggressive or does she just play one on tv? (also: the infantilism of her character on her show is just weird... if i met someone like that IRL i would think they were a child molester.)

this is what you get ladies! you want an equal playing field, you're going to have to deal with being sorted into 1500 different little ridiculous college stereotypes just like us dudes!!

the etiology of sarah silverman's comedy persona seems kinda complicated. infantilism is definitely part of it, and part of that whole quirky-aggressive shtick. but being a comedy persona it's necessarily more self-aware and, you know, meta than the kind of quirky-aggressive you get in indie flick chicks. the person (or persona) she reminds me most of is pee-wee herman.

from my real-life experience with the quirky-aggressive genus, they make good drinking buddies -- they like to shoot pool, they have good weed, or at least they have weed -- but unpromising relationship material.

the person (or persona) she reminds me most of is pee-wee herman.

i can see that. but pee-wee's playhouse had MUCH better guests than sarah's show.

(but hey, was that fred armisen as one of the fake bin ladens?)

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/the_wackness_vs_kids_which_is.html

I wanna watch this again and see if I like it more.

this moment in time was summed up well in the 1996 nymag article 'prep school gangsters.'

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By similak22 on 07/15/2008 at 11:41am

OMG. I remember reading that very article on the john at my parents' house in DC (yes, they still subscribed to NYMag after living in DC for 15+ years) and thinking to myself, "Ok, I know I'm only a junior in high school and I live a couple hundred miles away, but this story is obviously some massively blown-out-of-proportion tabloid-style BULLshit."

i haven't finished watching this, but kingsley's accent is all over the place, right?

definitely

There's a great moment where Luke is picking up more weed from his supplier (Method Man actually pretty convincing as a rastafarian) and dude is playing "The What" from Ready to Die (on which Method Man raps) really loud.

I've read about this a bunch of times, but no one ever mentions one of the very first scenes in the movie is soundtracked to Nas's "The World Is Yours," which contains the line "I sip the Dom P, watchin' Gandhi til I'm charged."

touche!

"I only look at the dopeness in things...you only look at the wackness."

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:26 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark

this line explains my breakup imo

totally noticed that when i watched it (the gandhi thing)

i really liked it. nothing amazing of course, but it's a nice example of the genre. i thought the teenage leads were nicely understated.

method man's rasta accent is a beautiful and hilarious thing

yeah i have very fond memories of this movie. very well acted.

These are all kids I went to school with. Well, at least the two leads. 1994. Rutgers. Holla.

UH OH THIS IS ON INSTANT QUEUE

Just watched this, found it very sweet.

And I am now listening to Ready to Die in bed.

watching this on iplayer right now

Contrary to the Katherine Heigl-type neurotic, beautiful, and responsible female lead, Thirby plays the indie-standard ideal female, what I like to call the "Quirky Aggressive". She's pretty without makeup, wears Converse, and says quirky and aggressive things.
SIGNS YOU ARE A QUIRKY AGGRESSIVE FEMALE:

#1.) You do drugs or you like talking about how you do drugs.

#2.) You use unique, half-witty, half-annoying sayings like "Dudesies!", "For YAYs" and make jokes about "Rim Jobs" because you are so cool with your sexuality.

#3.) On dates, rather than awkwardness, you manifest your wants/needs/insecurities through aggressive lines like "So when are you going to kiss/fuck/lick my C???"

(Advice: Quirky Aggressives are only beloved in indie films. Please do not try to be one in real life. Do not make rim job and poop jokes on dates. For the first few months your dude will be all like, "OMG, you're so cool and funny! You're not like other girls!" because you said something about giving "Nietzche a BlowJ" or some Quirky Aggressive-esque bullshit, but then after about six months the charm wears off and you find yourself being hushed in public places or cringed at just for telling your old, beloved rim job joke! You are being silenced, Quirky Aggressive. But Quirky Aggressives won't be silenced so they keep going, because, like, they're quirky and aggressive, and shutting up for a dude is so antithetical to their personality.

is sarah silverman a quirky aggressive or does she just play one on tv? (also: the infantilism of her character on her show is just weird... if i met someone like that IRL i would think they were a child molester.)

― thandie newman (get bent), Friday, October 24, 2008 1:41 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this description keeps coming back to me. dont understand why this isnt as big as the MPDG

"quirky aggressive" probably subsumed under "bitchy", which silverman got pretty typecast doing, too.

Is quirky aggressive differentiated from quirky passive and quirky neutral?

girls imo

lawful quirky
quirky evil

ha i love that hoos started this thread.

olivia thirlby is so pretty.

good movie. made me download biggie's ready to die iirc.