First squad to be announced at 1530 today, old and busted David Beckham out, the New Galactico Dave Kitson in, apparently.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm torn here. I think sentimentally he should let Becks have his 100, but the message needs to go out that superstars can't pick themselves via the press anymore.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
FOREIGNER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE BECKS "PASSION" - SACK HIM
― King Boy Pato, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
ENGLAND EX-BECKS
― Ronan, Thursday, 31 January 2008 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Becks can bloody wait. it's only the bleedin' Swiss.
― blueski, Thursday, 31 January 2008 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link
defoe out leona lewis in
it'd be interesting to see which keeper he goes for. Green, James, Carson and Hart all in contention. Possibly even Kirkland.
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 31 January 2008 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link
CURTIS DAVIES
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link
James Carson Kirkland
Bridge A. Cole Davies Ferdinand Johnson Richards Lescott Upson Woodgate Shorey King Brown
Carrick Barry Hargreaves Gerrard Jenas Downing J. Cole SWP Bentley
Heskey Agbonglahor Owen Rooney Crouch
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Owen
wait what
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, really struggling for forwards there
― Tom D., Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Young's in too, no? Rob Green must be wondering who he's gotta sleep with.
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
So he's picked every English player in the Premiership except Robinson and Green then?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
and Dave "Dave" Kitson
― onimo, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Capello out.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP big man, heaven needed a dude who loved General Franco more than Dave Kitson
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
If I was Harry Redknapp or Martin O'Neill I would be straight on the phone to Jermain Defoe's agent like right now.
Actually I might kill myself first, then get on the phone.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
BBC's saying Portsmouth have agreed a Defoe fee.
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Does this mean Harry Redknapp is dead as well?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link
looks like he's angling for a 5-3-2 with that squad. normal back 4 with an extra man behind the 'keeper, just in case.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
ZEE 10 POINT ACTION PLAN FOR ENGLAND
1. sack Steve McClown
2. Get rid of Barwick, replace with David Boyle
3. Bring David James back for stability ...If David James woz in goal tonight he would have known about Kranjcar
4. Bring in Matty Taylor instead of Scummer bridge
5. Bring in Glen Jonno Johnson at right back, he would have been up against Kranjcar tonite
6. Switch Micah Richards to Centre Back
7. Instal Harry Redknapp as part time manager with Jamie Redknapp as assistant and Louise as half time totty cheerleader
8. go web2.0 with rateyourenglandplayers.com - Social media and user generated content is the future
9. instal systems thinking courses, there is more than 4-4-2 or 4-5-1
10. copy Arsene Wenger's Arsenal Blueprint of quick passing football
DISCUSS !
-- djmartian, Wednesday, 4 May 2007 22:44 Link
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
And with these two already done, we're nearly 1/3 of the way to DJ Martianisation.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
#6 looks a way off when you look at the squad but you never know.
Here's hoping MATTY TAYLOR impresses at wherever the fuck oh who cares where he is now.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
To be revised.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
d'oh
My favourite thing about that post is how #10 is actually quite sensible after the steady crescendo of mentalism beforehand.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Louise as half time totty cheerleader
RIP djcalum
― DJ Mencap, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
BBC transfer wire is, as usual, the most important source for hard deadline day facts:
1616: "Javier Saviola spotted at Fratton Park, by my mate... could be a wind-up." bowkers123 on 606
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I approve of the "fuck a bulldog spirit" message Capello's squad selection displays here.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
1642: "Gareth Barry has just been seen with his agent going in to Goodison Park, along with Theo Walcott." jongre123 on 606
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i have no idea why i'm posting those to this thread.
harsh to have owen in ahead of defoe, tbh.
nice to see lennon dropped to the kids, he's needed a kick up the ar$e. feel sorry for dawson, but he's been poor lately so them's the breaks.
― darraghmac, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
1653: "Malcolm Macdonald spotted undergoing physical at St. James' Park" mackem08 on 606
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually I might kill myself first, then get on the phone
You might want to take a look at Redknapp's house first before you kill yourself, at least think about it over the summer...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/462583624_06bd1dbe0d_m.jpg
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link
He'll remember that fondly in jail.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link
He was actually there sunbathing. Caused much amusement on the boat.
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 31 January 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Brave new dawn, guys.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
GEEKS
― ken c, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
i missed Jenas goal but the Swiss equaliser was great. Rooney and Gerrard did well to set up the winner.
― blueski, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link
WTF was Jenas doing on the pitch at the start? I know he's improved a lot lately but blimey. I didn't watch the game so this was all related to me via text which made it even weirder.
Portentious omen - this is Capello's precursor to also trying to fudge the Gerrard/Lampard problem.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
wright-phillips out
― ken c, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Italy thrashed Portugal 3-1.
Just saying, like.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link
and Wales won 3-0
Wha?
― Mark G, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Let's all point and laugh at the Norwegians.
― King Boy Pato, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I did watch the Socceroos beat Qatar 3-0 and I'm not sure why.
― King Boy Pato, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't watch much football but does Rooney always hogg the ball that much normally ?
― Ste, Thursday, 7 February 2008 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Only when he doesn't have C Ronaldo to carry him.
― onimo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link
so was that 4-5-1 last night?
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I had a wry chuckle when I realised it was as well. Although in fairness to Fab it did turn into 4-1-2-2-1 at points.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link
OK, 4-5-1 now rejigged to mean "OTM, but with workmanlike tedium"
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link
"3-5-2" and "Jagger Dynamic Pentangle" remains synonyms for "you are fucking insane", questions?
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link
-- That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:42 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Or "Nabisco", as it's usually known.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
GEEKS!
― ken c, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link
His 'geeks' thing was funny but Lawro should've quite co-commentating after the Croatia match. He never sounds like he's enjoying it.
Then again can you imagine someone as sarcastic as him on ITV? maybe it's good.
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link
and he's still far less annoying than Mark Bright
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know why they have Lawro on England games, he obviously doesn't care whether they win or lose
― Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link
And he's a franchise-apologist cunt.
― Mark C, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Impartial commentary eh, who'd want that?
― onimo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Obv. you want it, but you hardly expect it, do you?
― Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Obv. it's good, when you've got England supporters like Alan Hansen in the studio, to have a bit of balance
― Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I liked Lineker's wee dig about WrightWrightWrighty's England goals total at the end.
Gary Lineker's middle name is Winston.
― onimo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Hansen's position is a bit of a pickle tho. When he eventually is no longer a pundit, which Scotsman will take his place?
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Terry Butcher :-)
― ailsa, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
too ugly
― blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
When he eventually is no longer a pundit
eh? what's to stop him continuing his punditry 'til he pops his clogs?
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
So Rio now has the most misshapen lips of any England captain ever, right?
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I love how everyone's pretending this is a big deal when we already knew full well Capello was planning on rotating the captaincy over the next few months?
Still, if it annoys John Terry it's good with me.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38542000/jpg/_38542365_milligan238.jpg http://footyfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/england-coach-fabio-capello.jpg
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
[7. Instal Harry Redknapp as part time manager with Jamie Redknapp as assistant and Louise as half time totty cheerleader
9. instal systems thinking courses, there is more than 4-4-2 or 4-5-1]
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link
"The Moore in question is, of course, the late Robert, captain of England, winner of 108 caps, the World Cup, and the respect of every opponent down from the uniquely competitive Pele, who, after their soaring duel in Guadalajara in 1970, tore off his shirt and entered an embrace known only to the bravest and the best of warriors.
Also in the firing line, of course, is another Robert, Sir Bobby Charlton, who scored more goals than any other Englishman in international football, won the World Cup and was told that his 106th cap would be his last immediately after he had guided England into a winning position against West Germany in the 1970 World Cup quarter-final, only to be pulled off because, in the one great aberration of his brilliant career, Sir Alf Ramsey wanted to keep him fresh for the semi-final against Italy.
The trouble with Beckham's self-promotion and the sentimentality which has swept him to tonight's milestone here is that it appears to owe no debt to the reality of football history, the smidgeon of it his career represents and the mountainous scale of those of men like Moore and Charlton."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-a-mickey-mouse-milestone-to-cap-beckham-fantasia-800477.html
wow: I turned on R5 and I think Platini was talking about respect for referees. and now - David Ginola, radio pundit!
kick-off at 8:00.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Ginola as pundit
will Alan Green show his notorious LFC sympathies?
I hope France score a few goals. But maybe 1-1 or so is more likely.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
GOAL for france
in case anyones interested
― Ste, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I am. It is nice to hear of James giving away a penalty, then watching it go past him.
Subs: Terry, Gerrard, J Cole, Rooney all off!
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
poor Austria went 3-0 up against Holland but are now 4-3 down
plus, Russia whipped in Bucharest! Greece win in Portugal!
― blueski, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
must be really annoying for Portugal even if it is only a friendly - still no revenge for two defeats four years ago
I'm annoyed too, to hear that.
But not at England's result. Allez les bleus! Ginola was assez bon aussi.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
how can you prefer france to win over england? i say this as a man who bet on france to win 1-0 to soften the blow
― blueski, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Spain deservedly beat Italy, game played out like a League Two relegation six-pointer where someone's gone into the Football Manager data editor and raised all the player's attributes by 50. Except Iaquinta, who on tonight's performance would probably be a great fit for Bury's sub's bench.
High points of the match numbered two: the Spaniards quite clearly having a sweepstake who could antagonise Camoranesi to the point of him getting sent off, and Grosso executing a perfect sweep kick on Alonso, suggesting that after his football career ends he could get down with some UFC.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Je les aime
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1206550186/img/1.jpg
― Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 27 March 2008 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmmm, poor game last night. I hadn't seen England play in a while, now I understand why you guys didn't make it to the Euro. England players seemed to play for the first time together.
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 March 2008 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link
... while France played at being Italy
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 March 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link
England in not-worth-watching friendly shockah.
Attendance: 78,500. Do people never learn?
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Where's this from, BNP News? England are in trouble, cannae even beat France.
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Would BNP News be happy to hymn the greatness of Pele?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link
The "unique competitiveness" of Pele you mean... what unique competitiveness?
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Pretty sure it's an impotence gag.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Question: Why does the English team underperform so much? Its not like you guys are lacking for talent so what's up?
― youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link
They're lacking in talent
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
the season's too long and there are too many competitions. Scrap the League Cup, reduce the size of the Premiership to 16 teams. Let the resultant time be taken up by the national team training together, esp in things we're weak at (eg penalty shoot outs). Job done.
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Plus they're lacking in talent.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha this is mental.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Clubs also bigger and more important than the national side - tho I suppose that's probably true in many other countries
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link
all this soul-searching after a 1-0 friendly defeat?
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes, but losing to France, embarrassing or what?
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
the season's too long and there are too many competitions
Doesn't seem to bother all the very good players of other nationalities who play in England.
Scrap the League Cup
Hack the season apart just because the FA and the Premiership can't get their mutual act together and sort out proper coaching of, y'know, basic technique, with English players?
reduce the size of the Premiership to 16 teams
Even smaller pool of talent to choose from.
Job done.
Erm, no.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Why embarrassing? They've got a better record than England's.
― Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
(Hint, it's a Scot talking...)
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link
thought it was stupid how Lineker was saying it's going to be MORE boring under Capello (compared to previous two managers). not possible.
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Why doesn't Egnland have an equivalent to Clairefontaine?
― Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Who is Clairfontaine?
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Or what, or whatever
they decided to spend all the money on new Wembley, i think, but it is supposed to be happening.
the other argument is that not enough English players develop as players abroad - but this didn't affect Italy or Germany much in the past.
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
French Youth Academy = better known as Arsenal FC
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
There are few things more satisfying than watching this self-important, humorless English side go down.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a tough call but i do prefer watching a team i want to win
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:15 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Although I agree, the problem is that Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, and all your other "favourites" aren't actually affected on any level by England being shit.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link
any *personal level
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
i couldn't watch a game just on the basis that i wanted one of the teams to lose. i mean, what if they won? that would be awful!
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
England teams needs a tragic-comic, alcoholic manchild like Gazza to bring the lulz.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
-- blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
It's like wrestling, you don't mind watching the evil Commie win a few matches, as long as he gets his comeuppance in the end.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
or electing Boris so that we can watch him crash and burn a bendy bus
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i couldn't watch a game just on the basis that i wanted one of the teams to lose
Are you sure you're actually a football fan?
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
^this
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Newcastle had a good win against Fulham last week and I reckon that most neutrals would want the Magpies to retain their Premier League status.
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
The rather wonderful verb gufare means to support against, to wish bad luck upon. It comes from the noun gufo, meaning owl, since the owl in Italy (and Spain) is a symbol of bad luck. So football fans “owl” for another team.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
In the metric system, a microgram is 1/1,000,000 of a gram (1 × 10-6), or 1/1000 of a milligram, is one of the smallest units of weight/mass commonly used. The abbreviation μg is often used in scientific literature, but JCAHO recommends that hospitals do not use this abbreviation in handwritten orders due to the risk that the greek letter μ could be mistaken for an m, resulting in a thousandfold overdose. The abbreviation mcg is recommended instead.[1]
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
shit sorry
― That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
"Crank That (Soulja Boy)" is the hit debut single by rapper Soulja Boy from his debut album Souljaboytellem.com. It spent seven weeks at number one on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 in 2007. The song is easily recognized with its steel pan melody. Soulja Boy performed the song on TRL and 106 & Park on August 27, 2007. He also performed it on the 2007 MTV Video Music Awards at Kanye West's Good Life Party.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
hey why else would i support England?
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I can think of several teams I gufo.
― Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
guffaw
― t**t, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
How does England feel about the upcoming USA friendly? Let me guess: dismissive.
― dan m, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Dismissive of the Enlgand team? Yes.
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Considering how shit the US have been of late, they shouldn't.
― Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Jozy Altidore isn't, y'know, awful.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
tbh you can have Giuseppe Rossi back as well, we really don't need him in the Italian national team.
So what was England up to again while the US was beating a Euro qualifying team away by 3 goals again? Oh that's right, not qualifying, or winning, or even challenging the French goal. Keep playing like it's 1960 gentlemen. I hear the long ball is massively effective.
We would love to have Rossi -- except he seems to be drowning in denial.
― mattttt, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
when was the last time the US qualified for the Euros? exactly
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Hi, mattttt!
― Laurel, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I hear the long ball is massively effective
Scientific study proves that this is indeed the case
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
the long ball
we've started talking abt rugby now?
― Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Chicks+dig+the+long+ball
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
-- dan m, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:10 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
there is a friendly against the USA? I don't think most people know when there is a friendly against brazil coming up until a couple of weeks before, never mind against a team whose own country has little interest in it. so there is zero interest in the outcome of the game per se here, except where it provides opportunities to dislike frank lampard.
― caek, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
C'mon, you can dislike Lampard ANY day.
― Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i forget why people do
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
he fat
― caek, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
cos he so fat....... something about yo momma
x-post
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
fat footballers are to be cherished
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
but not fat rich bastard ones
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
they're all rich
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
neville southall isn't
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
and david hillier is a fireman in bristol
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
So Andy Reid's one of the Top 10 most higly paid footballers in the world as well?
― Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
he is considerably rich than yow
― blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7372163.stm
Quality zinging from Lippi here, based around the central thesis that Robert Acquafresca is better than any English footballer currently playing.
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Someone please suggest England's current best eleven. Otherwise I'm going to use this thread to lol at Trap's belief that "Robbie Keane can be an Irish Totti"
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 May 2008 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the sound of that
― the pinefox, Thursday, 29 May 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Beckham back as Captain, lol.
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Or maybe Captain Lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7429342.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Capello could just suck off Jack Warner and save having to do this.
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7567928.stm
Biggest disappointment of the season so far.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link
meh. more disappointing is the england strikers selection.
― blueski, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Was a bit of a stretch to ask an northern Italian to pick the black guy over the white one, admittedly.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link
It's less that I particularly wanted any of the others to be captain and more that I take pleasure in things that annoy John Terry.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Theo Walcott will never have another game like this again.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Cocking hell. 3-0.
― DavidM, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sure the tabloids will assess this match in a measured, thoughtful way tomorrow.
― Vagina McKee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
IT'S CAPELLO'S NIGHT IN MUNICH.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Meanwhile Bosnia are beating Estonia 7-0. Lol.
i for one am enjoying plucky underdogs England taking globe-straddling Croatia to task, in their own back yard no less.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Over/under on "Absolutely Fabio" headlines tomorrow?
― The moment Carrie made cupcakes cool (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
notice: apparently there is a free highlights package on a setanta channel at 10.45 - including the england game
― djmartian, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I am not going to accept this is that good until Heskey starts doing the goal putt celebration.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Also fuck dodgy internet streams for choosing tonight to fuck up all at once.
I shudder at the thought of how vulgar the gutter press will be in reporting this tomorrow.
― DavidM, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Franjo Tuđman , Paul Salopek, Janko Bobetko, Mate Boban, Ante Starčević, Željko Mavrović, Marija Petkovićve...Ivo Sanader, can you hear me? Your boys took a hell of a beating! Your boys took a hell of a beating!
― Vagina McKee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Lol Lampard.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
― DavidM, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 21:29 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
"this" "tomorrow"
― The moment Carrie made cupcakes cool (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
not even Luxembourg monumentous victory in Switzerland can overshadow this
― blueski, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
IT'S COMING HOMEIT'S COMING HOME
looking forward to the 0-0 draw against Kazakhstan in October.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
re headlines i'm plumping for FAB FOUR
― blueski, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Man what with this and the British donk beating the American donk I might just die of excitement.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm voting THEO PA-THREE-TIS
― Vagina McKee (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
More happier about British donk winning than this shower, tbh.
an england performance to rank alongside:
Holland 1 England 4 - euro 1996
germany 1 england 5 - september 2001http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/1515667.stm
― djmartian, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
ENGLAND ARE GONNA WIN THE WORLD CUP! AND THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE! AND THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE! AND WILL SUCCESSFULLY OPERATE THE HADRON MACHINE!
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Sun rolling with TRIO WALCOTT
― blueski, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Setanta appear to be not showing the England highlights after all.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I just watched them on Setanta Ireland. THEO LOLCOTT!
Steven McManus is a tit, Gary Caldwell is a god, James McFadden is a shite penalty taker and, er, Kirk Broadfoot is an international footballer. It's good to be back.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Caldwell was impressive tonight.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
hey this isn't the Burley thread (joeks)
― blueski, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Now, come on, I did mention England!
also, I read that as (jocks)
― ailsa, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
tartan army had a huge banner for http://www.noteamgb.com/
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I has revived the Scottish football thread. Carry on, England.
Is it wrong that I laughed at Joe Cole and his bleedy head falling over? Then rewound it and laughed some more?
― ailsa, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Youse were pish first half against Andorra, btw.
Yeah, we know
― blueski, Wednesday, 10 September 2008 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm actually really happy England won. Some of the utter shite coming from Bilic this week was sickening, especially for a guy who had a crap major tournament, "England are the same but we are better and better, we have the best players possible in every position". He teed up an English trouncing more than anyone. Bet he wishes the West Ham job was on the table now.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
have to settle for newcastle, won't he?
― darraghmac, Thursday, 11 September 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
So yeah England bought the ref right?
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link
England played really well for one competitive game under Steve McClaren as well. Let's not get carried away.
(It may well be proveable that England play better with Heskey upfront, though)
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Glans Christian Andersen
10/10 username, would roffle again.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, I don't know about that. Then there's Bosnia-Herzegovina's 7-0 walloping of Estonia.
― Tom D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link
France beat Serbia, last night.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link
It's a minefield in the Balkans right now.
― NAZI MODS FUCK OFF (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Shame (xp)
― Tom D., Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link
DOMENECH DIAMOND: Plucky French hold off Serbian menace
― The moment Carrie made cupcakes cool, Thursday, 11 September 2008 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Email I sent yesterday lunchtime:
I reckon we've got three points in the bag for tonight. Croatia have got Eduardo and Krancjar injured, Luka Modric has been awful for Tottenham so far this season, and Niko Kovac is 37 - which is REALLY old (apologies, Marcus) - and tried to retire after the Euros. In the two games we lost, we had no Ashley Cole, and in one of them, no Wayne Bridge either. We had no Rooney in the home game and played Crouch as a lone striker.We played Scott Parker and Carrick in midfield in the away game, with Gary Neville as an attacking wing-back.Just looking at the teams, it's no wonder we lost. We'll see who plays tonight, but it'll be much more balanced. The only big player missing is Gerrard, and since we don't seem to have an effective way to play him, maybe that's no loss. Hope he plays Johnson instead of Wes Brown at RB, and that he plays Walcott and Joe Cole behind (and wide of) Rooney as a front three. Lets get at them!
Just wanted to crow, although I was wrong about the formation. I just can't bring myself to think that playing Heskey is a good idea.
Anyway, I thought it was pretty obvious we were going to win, and it's typical media reaction to say "no-one saw that coming" when they've been completely ignoring the bleeding obvious for ages, because it didn't fit the "narrative". We were alright against Andorra, and Croatia are clearly nowhere near the fifth best team in the world and have been wildly overachieving.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah nobody looks good against someone like Andorra anyway.
I hate the glut of "Joe Cole must start" articles in the last week too, I mean most people I know and anyone who watches England has been saying that for ages. He's clearly one of those players who just performs and scores at international level, like Scholes used to.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Paul Scholes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Cole
I haven't enough >'s
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Cole looks International class cos he's got the diving and rolling around on the floor in imaginary agony down.
― The Real Slim Whitman (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Scholes is definitely better, but Cole is v good for England, he has always been good for them.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Saturday, 06 September 2008FIFA World Cup European Qualifying
Liechtenstein 0-6 GermanyMalta 0-4 Portugal
― JohnneyB God Little (The Wayward Johnny B), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Azerbaijan 0 Liechtenstein 0
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Portugal 2 Denmark 3
England played really well for one competitive game under Steve McClaren as well.
not away from home against the top seed tho
Then there's Bosnia-Herzegovina's 7-0 walloping of Estonia
not a big surprise at all
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost
I don't know, but I doubt whether those teams would play QUITE as negatively as Andorra, who had no desire to even attempt to score a lucky goal on the break or from a set piece. I've never seen anything like it. And they were then proud of their performance? They should be thrown out of football. It was despicable.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link
jesus...andorra are worse than either of those too and in any case, a win is a win against a team that sets out for a 0-0.
if you really want to believe England are shit, even after last night's performance, then go ahead! I'm not even English, you'd swear half of you look forward to the post-knockout anti-prem rants...
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Croatia did score 13 goals in 2 games against Andorra in the last campaign so no excuse for England really - but will be interesting to see if they can do the same this time (probably)
Garda is correct re Cole
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know, but I doubt whether those teams would play QUITE as negatively as Andorra, who had no desire to even attempt to score a lucky goal on the break or from a set piece. I've never seen anything like it.
You've never seen anything like it? Are you serious? All of those teams play the same.
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Not even leaving one man up? playing with five in the six-yard box and the other five in the penalty area?
It took pointless, hopeless negativity to new levels.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link
They didn't set out for a 0-0, they set out to minimise how many they lost by. BAN ANDORRA.
Well they only lost 2-0, so it wasn't pointless or hopeless. San Marino losing 13-0 to Germany, that's hopeless!
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Poland only 2-0 in San Marino. Romania only 1-0 vs Faroe Islands. someone else will go to these places and score 7 or 8 tho. there's still easy games, just not as much of the time.
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1420000/images/_1424849_green_300.jpg
THEY SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF FOOTBALL. IT'S DESPICABLE.
― ^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, fair enough, but it offends my notions of sportsmanship (and now I sound like Louis).
Did anyone else actually watch the game?
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I watched it, I didn't find Andorra that objectionable, I've seen worse
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link
i think the result of the night has to be plucky team of defensive thugs andorra actually scoring a goal. just think of the joy on his face!
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Rangers v Fiorentina. UEFA Cup semi-final. April 24th, 2008.
... I did something I've never ever done before while watching a football game, I fell asleep
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
how convenient
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean obviously yay luxembourg woo walcott coo er jermaine jenas and all that but mario pujol will probably, and deservedly, be given a Pyrenee now
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Was it a penalty?
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Google tells me that of course it was!
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link
People need to stop hating on anti-football. Catenaccio is a lot more interesting than 99.999% of other football styles. The football historian and critic Gianni Brera said the perfect game of football would end 0-0.
― If you really need a 00's album I'd say go for 'in rainbows'., Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Tom - But Rangers at least had a vague plan to take it to penalties.
Anyway, I'm not sure about Joe Cole - he was pretty ineffectual last night before going off. I think we might end up with Walcott on the left and Gerrard on the right if everyone's fit. (Walcott is genuinely two-footed and played on the left wing for our youth team.)
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Fabio Capello's faith in Theo Walcott transformed England's weather-beaten canvas into a lustrous work of art
English footballer was a low rent porno until Capello wiped the encrusted jizz from its plastic box and projected it across the London skyline in a daring Hirst like coup de grace.
seriously fucking ban richard williams
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Being boring because you're too shite to do anything else is less bad than..... oh hold on, that covers Rangers too
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
English football was a two bit trance tune fronted by a robotic hollow diva, until Capello's picked up the Walcott trumpet and blasted colourful Charlie Parker style tones through the grey corporate world of football. BEPOP BEEDDADADADDA SKIBABABABABABABABABA
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
3 points for a win. 1 for a draw. 1 for scoring, even if you lose. That would sort it out - maybe.
(So a win = 4 points, a score draw = 2 points, a scoring loss = 1 point, a 0-0 draw = 1 point, and a loss without scoring = 0 points)
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
joe cole >>>> gerrard as far as england is concerned, he plays well and contributes regular goalscoring
and yeah if richard williams wrote that he's even more of a self-absorbed prick than i suspected
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
if in doot, cheetyerwee oot
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Joe Cole was ineffectual partly because they had apparently been instructed to put it out wide right to Walcott at every opportunity.
FiveLive was speculating that could have been the last ever Beckham cap last night, for old time's sake.
― ^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Charlie Parker on trumpet?!?!??!
^ an ILM pedant writes
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Typical England, always playing jazz musicians out of position.
― ^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
English football was a "visuals artist" in a Shoreditch bedsit, back from a three day binge at a rave where he looped 1950s footage of old people, until Capello cut off the ear that is Michael Carrick and daubed magnificent sunflowers across Slaven Bilic's vulgar earringed face...
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
lol matt (and ronan)
jamie, bring that about and ppl wd settle for scoring draws if it was 1-1 or whatever
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link
my favourite antifootball moment of the year was when Greece passed the ball between their back four against Sweden for about five minutes, and Jim Beglin's heart nearly exploded at the affront to the Way The Game Should Be Played, despite his initial attempts to adopt a faux-gracious "you have to give them credit, it works" stance
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link
English football is now a "supergroup" featuring Billy Corgan, John Lennon, Miles Davis, and Liam Gallagher on one fingered piano.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link
actually wait, no, because 4 points for a win
look it just sounds stupid THE CLOSED-MINDED TABLOID PUBLIC WILL NEVER KOW-TOW TO YOUR SCHEMES
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Also if a team only needed a point to win the leg they'd throw 11 men forward in the first 10 minutes until they got a goal then fuck off doing the victory lap for the rest of the game, paying no heed to their now irrelvant goal difference being annihilated
that'd be fucking amazing though
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i like Bilic even more now that he's been punched by morris dancers and had a fry-up dropped down his beige trousers.
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link
quick somebody make a joke about winning the leg
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link
And still Bobby "Boaby" Gillespie awaits George Burley's phone call
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link
ps antifootball is now an ILX meme, to be used upon killjoys and point-missers alike
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
England's football victory transformed Richard Williams weather beaten canvas into a Laura Barton work of art.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
England's football victory transformed Richard Williams weather beaten face into a Joey Barton work of art.
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link
ps antifootball is now an ILX meme, to be used upon killjoys and point-missers alike YEE-HAWS
fickshed
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Antifootball is a failed meme in the making if ever I saw one.
― ^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
What about "failed meme" as a meme?
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Jimbo just wanted to be the Peter Gabriel of Toryglen up till then
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
antifootball from ilx's own andorran defender xxpost
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
How did that happen? (xp)
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think that Richard Williams is a bad writer. The other day I reread his review of Dylan's OH MERCY LP from 1989 and it was as insightful and well-turned as the other 200 times I have read it.
It is strange how people want to pick out and pick on certain figures like him. Or perhaps it is not strange, given the people. I don't agree with all or half of what he says about football, but it does not make sense to me to be so vehement against this decent, eloquent fellow in a media world so full of utter scumbags.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I heard he writes all his articles from his cellar dungeon, dictating them to his young typist Maddie.
― ^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
it's more the crass inference that the inclusion of theo walcott was the spur for an artistic reinvention of team england. he took his goals very well, but the good performance was aided by a) a subdued croatia side, b) some luck, c) and yes c) a slightly more patient, slow-build (continental) approach to football in all areas of the field. a very good performance, yes, but not a magic transformation.
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Come anticipate England's turgid 0-0 draw in Kazakhstan with me!
― ^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link
well I know Pinefox dislikes Laura Barton.....I dislike Williams for similar reasons.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I have not read RW's latest article. If anyone believes in a magic transformation of this team then I think they are mistaken.
My problem with Barton I suppose is her strained 6th-form pretentiousness. I don't really think Williams has that, though it's true that he is unusually an 'aesthete' type for a sportswriter (and he's not only a sportswriter).
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link
unusually? so you haven't heard of barnes, winter, lawton (the other 3 broadsheets' equivalents)
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I hate broadsheet football writing
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Lawton is comparable, perhaps more a moralist than an aesthete? (They go together, perhaps, here.) Barnes I do not read. Winter I would not trust - I assume he is a right-wing hack and I don't think he is any kind of idealist, far from it.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't mind him being an "aesthete" except that to me it's so pompous, plus in sport a team wins a game, and history records that, in art nobody wins. Plus that metaphor above about the well worn canvas is just really bad, dull writing to me.
My problem with both of them is that they play on this idea that referencing "great works" somehow enhances their prose by default, but neither ever do it in a way that makes me think or pick particularly thought provoking parts of a "great work" to quote/use.
EG Barton quoting Proust a few weeks back and just picking some ultra simple line to back up a glowing indie review...I mean if you're going to quote those people I'm not sure just a line works anyway. The parts of Musil or Flaubert or whoever I'd want to quote are 3/4 pages long.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:15 (fifteen years ago) link
If you're going to write about football it helps if you know a bit about football first, then you can do all the fanndydangle I'm-a-proper-writer stuff afterwards, these guys usu. do it the other way round
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link
ronan completely otm, nothing to add
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link
David Lacey was even worse. Whole articles of clever clever word play saying NOTHING. Plus when he did say something he was always wrong.
I know what you mean, but I don't mind the rest of the Guardian's lot. Paul Doyle is always good, but he's usually only online.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link
The fact that they were ALWAYS WRONG, is what stopped me reading the Guardian's football apges
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't mind Kevin McCarra.
Martin Kelner is good tho he writes more about TV coverage etc.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link
That was around the time that Arsenal were playing the best football that ever been played in the history of the universe ever ever ever - whenever that last happened, as it does periodically (xp)
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Henry Winter was the most unashamed Gooner poet IIRC.
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I've always wondered why there are no Arsenal fans on ILX
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
all living in their hampstead mansions counting their millions amirite
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link
That's the players
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link
all living in their hampstead terraced apartments counting their signed henry shirts
― J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link
in art nobody wins
sorry but this made me laugh, maybe even out loud!
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link
why?
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link
just in that "they used to say i'd never make it as a stand-up but NOW who's laughing?" kinda sense.
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Hi there! I forgot to mention because every football thread turns in to a Spurs discussion, so I ran away and hid.
― Suedey 2, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Not wishing to intrude on private grief etc etc etc
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha ha ha
you people are fucking MENTAL!
Big slagging off not just of Barton (OK) and Williams (I don't really agree but this is predictable) but also David Lacey (who knows more about football than most of us will ever know about anything), while praising www hack Paul Doyle and, and, and ...
wait for it
OK, deep breath
...
MARTIN KELNER!!!
I rest my (pillow) case.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Incidentally, I would like to reassure ILX's small contingent of Spurs fans that I will be bringing my nine game strong Aston Villa Away Jinx to White Hart Lane this Monday. Previous beneficiaries of my morale-sapping presence have included Marlon Harewood (16 goals a season West Ham vintage), Nicklas Bendtner and, perhaps most shockingly, Charlton Athletic FC.
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
haha....gimme Kelner over Williams any day.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
well, once a week
Sorry pinefox, but David Lacey? You could not be more wrong.
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Unless you were David Lacey yourself
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
To be honest if I was given a load of unbylined football comment articles I'd find it pretty difficult to put a name to any of them apart from maybe Martin Samuel or Adrian Chiles doing his 'remember the day West Brom stayed up' thing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I do quite like the Fiver-style "all football is shit" tongue in cheek liveblogged coverage in the Graun tbh, it beats fucking Fletch and Cheesey and the gang
Martin Samuel is amazingly obese
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah but there's that French football pundit who is basically their Samuel but another 10 stone heavier
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link
http://ilovebubbadogs.com/bubbapress/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/andre.jpg
this guy, yeah?
― Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Aston Villa could very well win at WHL on Monday.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
In fact that is so obvious it was not worth stating.
Why is Harry Pearson a great football writer for When Saturday Comes and an absolutely dreadful one for The Guardian? Sub-editing?
― If you really need a 00's album I'd say go for 'in rainbows'., Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Writing for your audience
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
The reason I picked out Paul Doyle is that he is the opposite of Lacey/Williams in that he isn't even trying to be a "great writer", but knows ABSOLUTELY LOADS about African and French football and seems to have boundless enthusiasm for it, which he communicates. Same goes for their Eastern European football guy, whose name temporarily escapes me. Not that good a writer, but he knows his stuff really well, and he loves it, and that comes across.
David Lacey communicated enthusiasm for nothing but his own tired, pretentious, vacuous writing.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't want to read 'good' football writing, I want to read clear, authoritative and enthusiastic football writing.
TBH I've come to the same conclusion about music writing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link
OTM
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link
OI GEEZER YEAH OTM KEEP IT CLEAR AN ENFUSIATIC ALRIGHT TMFD
I want to read good writing, about anything. I wish Stevie T were here to be amused or dismayed with.
I don't think Harry Pearson is dreadful for the Guardian. Next to Martin Kelner he reads like Walter Benjamin.
If you say Doyle knows a lot about those nations' football, good. The East European one you have in mind may be Jonathan Wilson, who has written a book and is a pretty decent writer.
But your comments on Lacey make it difficult for me to take seriously anything else you say. How old are you? Lacey started writing in about 1966, I think. I read him from about 1986 onwards. He can be faulted on knowing too much, in a way - compulsively dropping in facts from very very ancient history. And I have sometimes found him actually TOO factual; and also not ENOUGH of an aesthete - he's actually a bit of blokeish pragmatist, in his football views. But to call him 'pretentious' ... suggests that you don't know what the word means, or you are actually thinking of some other writer.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
If he knows so much, how come he gets so much wrong? That's what I object to.
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah what is this, ARTS journalism?
― blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I accept that he might once have been good and have fallen off. I'm actually quite old, but didn't start reading the football in the Guardian till a few years ago, maybe the last few before he retired
I think pretentious is the right word, as he would dress bland statements of the obvious in pretty similes and horrible word play. It seemed more about the words he was using than what he was saying. That isn't good writing. It's someone aiming at "good writing" and failing.
I don't think it's geezerish to want clarity and enthusiasm in your writing. (Was George Orwell a geezer?) I'm very ungeezerish myself in real life, by the way.
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The other thing about David Lacey is that he retired from football writing with all sort of fanfares and encomia and then umpteen years later HE WAS STILL THERE
― Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
This has turned into another Guardian-bashing thread, hasn't it? How did that happen?
― Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I have sometimes found him actually TOO factual; and also not ENOUGH of an aesthete
Antijournalism! Send him to Andorra.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah but what about the new Thierry Henry, eh? I mean Theo Walcott, of course, surely to lead England and Arsenal to glory for years and years to come.
Also has anyone mentioned the absurd and scary Setanta three lions intro that goes on forever and ever and the terrible guy who thesped about going in to battle before they'd deem it worthy to show the highlights of the England game? It made me want to not watch football anymore.
I only started reading football journalism kinda recently, and what struck me - as I read Martin Samuel belittling people and not actually reading any of the words they wrote - was that it was all pretty awful.
― Suedey 2, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
ILX Gooners = me, Julio
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Nick Uptoeleven as well.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Richard Williams is a blokey aesthete. an old blokey aesthete.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
David Lacey did not retire from football writing with all sorts of fanfares and encomia. I can tell you exactly how I found out how he was retiring. I was in a pub in Sandycove, Fitzgerald's I think it's called, on perhaps 17 June 2002, with a pint of Guinness, Belgium - Brazil on TV and the day's Guardian in front of me. A small note in a corner said something like 'David Lacey will retire as the Guardian's football correspondent at the end of the World Cup'. That was it, that was the announcement. At tournament's end they ran a page or so of his old works - not classics, on the whole - in celebration. That was that. McCarra, I suppose, was then hired, and I think he was done a pretty superb job, and is a fine writer in his own right. I would probably rather read McCarra than Lacey NOW, at least.
It's true of course that Lacey stayed on to write a weekly column and generally one match report a week. This does muddy the water of what 'retirement' means. Nancy Banks-Smith (whom I don't particularly like at all) DID announce her own retirement and was greeted by a shoal of protest, and is still writing for the Guardian to this day I believe.
The geezer debate has a long history which can perhaps be found elsewhere on ilx. I am not especially convinced that Enthusiasm is a good quality in a writer. There are all kinds of subjects about which one might not, or should not, feel at all enthusiastic.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
it's not as cut and dried as geezer vs aesthete, this is silly.
Williams may not be a geezer but that doesn't mean his prose should be let off the hook. Just because he tries to bring in themes that you might not normally read in football does not exonerate a crap metaphor like the above painting one, in any case the idea of people vaguely musing about art in football writing is pretty hackneyed.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought clumsily shoehorning art metaphors into football discourse was pretty much stock in trade for a certain segment of the media? See also the BBC coverage of every international tournament since 1990 or thereabouts.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 September 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
the future of England...
under 21 draw, winners of these ties join hosts Sweden in euro under 21 tournament next june
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/under21/news/kind=1/newsid=748709.html
Germany v France Denmark v Serbia Turkey v Belarus Austria v Finland Wales v England Italy v Israel Switzerland v Spain
― djmartian, Friday, 12 September 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link
When I finally read that Richard Williams article, I thought the art aspect was pretty good. It showed a knowledge of an actual Italian art movement, not just generalized BS about sport as art, and the whole thing partly revolved around a joke about the England team being like a Dadaist urinal. The painting phrase quoted upthread was, I think, a subheading bit added by a copyeditor or whatever.
DC says the BBC have 'clumsily shoehorned' art into football discourse. (When did anyone who uses this kind of talk, certainly including me, last use a shoehorn, clumsily or otherwise?) It's true that there is some kind of marginal slo-mo aestheticism around the edges of tournament coverage - and I am happy with that. But the central reality, as we must all surely remember, is Adrian Chiles asking Lee Dixon about how full-backs mark, Alan Hansen declaring the first half of a game the worst he's ever seen, Shearer saying 'I've been impressed with them, I really have' and Lawro saying 'exciting game -- NOT'. Not really a lot of art around.
― the pinefox, Friday, 12 September 2008 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I used a shoehorn about six weeks ago actually, while trying on a pair of shoes in a shop. It's not an action that's easy to perform with a huge amount of grace.
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 September 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway Walcott's performance is as good an excuse as any for me to start banging on about the need to promote Ashley Young and Gaby Agbonlahor to the senior squad sooner rather than later. Can't remember the last time there was an England team with much in the way of pace.
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 September 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I have never used a shoehorn.
― Aare-Reuss Böögg (blueski), Friday, 12 September 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I have never attempted to squeeze a quart into a pint pot.
― Hilarious Scrip Kiddie (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 September 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link
England will play friendly internationals against Slovakia and Slovenia at Wembley in 2009, the Football Association has announced.Fabio Capello's side will face Slovakia on 28 March, three days before the home World Cup qualifier against Ukraine.Slovenia will be England's opponents on 5 September ahead of the Group six match against Croatia on 9 September."It's very important to play similar style opposition as practice for the competitive matches," Capello said.
reminiscent of what Sven said re playing Jamaica to prepare for playing Trinidad & Tobago
mid-ranking countries England haven't played this decade:
Norway (last met in '95)Ireland (last met in '95)Bulgaria (last met in '99)Belgium (last met in '99)Scotland (last met in '99)
― Aare-Reuss Böögg (blueski), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Fifa has fined the Croatian Football Federation £15,000 for racist behaviour by their fans during the World Cup qualifier with England on 10 September.
YEAH, THAT'LL LEARN 'EM
― They're a '90s odd couple. And an odds-on choice for laughs. (blueski), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
15k is Bilic's wage for three years though.
― Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link
He tops that up with income from his band.
― aye it's me (onimo), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
He's in Skrewdriver?
― Tom D Gives You the Big Reassure (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
RAWBAU
― aye it's me (onimo), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
So, about that dawning of an exciting new era, eh lads?
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/TEE_RIPJ/BOJS002~Women-s-Borat-I-Heart-Kazakhstan-Posters.jpg
(to be revised at fulltime, no doubt)
― ailsa, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Also they've kidnapped Rooney and replaced him with a bricklayer.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
need 4-3-2-1 with Owen up front
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
The Wembley pitch is still as big and slow as its always been.
― Mr Raif, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Kazakhstan should be 1-0 up.
― Neil S, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
The Wembley pitch England team is still as big and slow as its always been.
http://seoulcurry.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/bob-the-builder.jpg
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
that's more like it!
― Neil S, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL@KAZAKHSTAN
I really think England can go on and win now, if they put 10 men behind the ball.
WHO THE FUCK IS BORAT????
― Local Garda, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
all v reminiscent of Albania game 7 years ago
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
England "putting Kazakhstan in their place" there, ITV cheerfully inform us
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Even compared to the BBC commentators Tyldesly and Pleat are full of jingoistic crap.
― Neil S, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
you'd think they were Englishmen!
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I know it's a vain hope, but a little bit of objectivity is not too much to ask for, surely.
― Neil S, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
why, do we get objectivity with the cricket?
i wonder how few places below England a country could be in the rankings before 'putting X in their place' wouldn't come up (it comes in the context of goal-less first half tho)
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Game's not on Scottish TV, btw, so jingoism not as annoying as it is on the BBC (am watching via the magicks of Sky)
― ailsa, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post Relative to football, cricket is objective, although that's still not saying much.
― Neil S, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Jingoism is fair enough I reckon, it's just that Pleat is a complete fucking arsehole whatever he says.
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
BBC is always less jingoistic than ITV! Tho Motty most at fault for jingoism at the Beeb.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Flukey second goal!
― Neil S, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Motty most at fault for jingoism at the Beeb
Only cos Barry "Look at that disgusting cheating foreigner, they don't like it up 'em the fuzzy wuzzies you know" Davies has been retired.
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
What a load of complete horseshit.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
What, Barry Davies or England?
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
steady on pinefox, they may yet scramble a third xp bah
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Everybody knows you can't just sit deep and hang on against quality opposition like Kazakhstan.
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i've just accepted England will always struggle and perform poorly against the lower-ranked teams
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
four words too many there.
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
England fans may be wishing Capello had fallen through a TRAPP door.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
BORE-AT
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
ROO ARE YA
― Local Garda, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
a goal using feet...just imagine it!
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice to see Rooney representing for male pattern baldness sufferers.
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
and ferrety beard wearers
― Local Garda, Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link
he's gonna look like john mccririck in 20 years
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I see Wales are sticking it to the Liechtensteiners.
― Poll Wall (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
FOUR-AT
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I DON'T RECALL THIS GAME IN MUNICH YOU MENTION CLIVE....I DON'T RECALL IT.
― Local Garda, Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
same scoreline and everything!
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean sure it was 0-0 in Munich until the last minute but still
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
hope it stays 0-0 in Kiev
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
a game you may just remember ... seven years ago ... two years after that magical night in Barcelona ... and four years before that amazing night of drama in Istanbul
― the pinefox, Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
That was the worst 5-1 victory I have ever seen. Stevie Me is a serial international bottler and should never play in an England shirt ever again.
However, Shaun Wright-Phillips shoulder-barging a Kazakhstan player off the ball = classic to the power of 100.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
not sure how much of that was to do with SWP tho
if it had been 1 or 2-0 at half-time maybe it probably wouldn't be seen as a bad performance. i'd take a showing like that in Belarus if it meant a win by just one goal (as long as i can just watch the highlights).
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
It's good the national team can still lift us at this time of international turmoil. Although it may be moot if we get thrown out of the competition due to military action in Iceland.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not like you're us, and IN THE SAME GROUP AS THEM.
― aldo, Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Shame this isn't an actual league, "you're going down with your bankers" has a nice ring to it.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 October 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
fucking steven gerrard lost the ball attempting a stupid hollywood pass i don't know how many times, he is a waste of fucking space
― 100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Sunday, 12 October 2008 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Wayne Rooney is now almost as good as he was in 2004.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
steven gerrard no longer a waste of space altho LOL haha
― 100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Before anyone jumps on me with a 'yeah its only Belarus' I'm counting recent Man United performances as well. Lets just ride the good times until that inevitable New Year career-ruining injury by Some Loser From Stoke.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
SPOT THE DIFFERENCE:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45112000/jpg/_45112489_rooney466_282pa.jpg
http://ns25552.ovh.net/~nofatcli/daddy/cometodaddy.jpg
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
He was a bit thinner when he was chatting up the old grannies eh?
― Cool Hand Tiller (onimo), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://ronanfitzgerald.net/random%20stuff/COMETOROON.jpg
― Local Garda, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Stevie G - my tasty hero again
― the pinefox, Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i think a decent keeper would have saved steven gerrard's shot fairly comfortably
― 100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link
and probably wouldn't get rounded like 3 times
― ILX Systern (ken c), Thursday, 16 October 2008 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7729516.stm
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 15 November 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Mancienne's a class act, pleased for him.
― Oreo SB'd Wagon (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 November 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope for your sake he's better than that other numptie you gave our country.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 15 November 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Glad to see you're not holding onto a grudge there big guy.
(About that other thing we discussed a few weeks back - sorry to be so tardy, we went on holiday for a week and I've been a bit in La La Land since then. Will contact you with firm proposal this week, promise.)
― Oreo SB'd Wagon (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 November 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Why on earth am I watching this? The only thing that interests me is the performance of Michael Carrick.
― Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
the war + nazis mentioned 19:51
― Shacknasty (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
1966 mentioned less than 1 min later
Where can I get a coat like Joachim Low's?
― Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
loal!
― Shacknasty (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't realise Gomes was playing for Germany.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh and Jim, I will forgive the big fella when he scores a winner in a qualifying game, but til then that miss will forever remain in my memory.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Now, come on, Kenny Miller's scored a few important goals for us...
― ailsa, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Carson to Spurs
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
THIS FUCKING BETTER BE PART OF SOME STUART PEARCE REDEMPTION NARRATIVE THING WHERE 37 YEAR OLD SCOTT WORK EXPERIENCE CARSON SAVES A PENALTY IN THE FUCKING WORLD CUP FINAL
AT LEAST BARRY CARRICK IS THE MOST OBNOXIOUSLY COMPOSED CENTRAL MIDFIELD PAIRING IMAGINABLE AY
― reggaeton shark (salsa shark), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Log out of your girlfriend's email account before posting, son.
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOOT HI IM CANADIAN EH
― reggaeton shark (salsa shark), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
scottkeith.jpg
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Were Capello and Pearce arm in arm there?
― William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link
"far more penetrative up front"
― Fat Penne (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, Downing and Wright-Phillips have both had really good games. I don't think I'd ever realised just how physically strong SWP is, he's been riding challenges and keeping control of the ball really well all night.
― William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
[Lisa tears off a strip of wallpaper]Marge: Lisa, what are you doing? Lisa: Just trying to fill the void of random, meaningless destruction Bart's absence has left in our hearts. [Homer walks in; Lisa trips him]Marge: Oh, that's sweet, honey.
― The tit man from the hilarious 'Loudon Wainwright III' song (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
England were... worthy winners, weren't they?
― The tit man from the hilarious 'Loudon Wainwright III' song (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Finally realised who Capello looks like too: Sully out of Sesame Street. Apologise if this has already been pointed out.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/thumb/3/3c/Sully.jpg/300px-Sully.jpg
― William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha great spot
― Cool Hand Tiller (onimo), Thursday, 20 November 2008 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
England squad:Goalkeepers: Robert Green (West Ham), Joe Hart (Man City), David James (Portsmouth).Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Man City), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Portsmouth), John Terry (Chelsea), Matthew Upson (West Ham), Luke Young (Villa).Midfielders: David Beckham (LA Galaxy), Gareth Barry (Villa), Michael Carrick (Man Utd), Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Villa), Shaun Wright-Phillips (Man City), Ashley Young (Villa).Forwards: Gabriel Agbonlahor (Villa), Carlton Cole (West Ham), Peter Crouch (Portsmouth), Emile Heskey (Villa).
― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i40.tinypic.com/2m6r9z5.jpg
it's...as if they knew
― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link
― reggaeton shark (salsa shark), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:27 (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^this guy should post to more football threads imo
― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link
lol a few tap-ins later and Carlton Cole goes from reviled journeyman to England elite
― Robin van Injury (country matters), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link
IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU
no harsh feelings of course, CC ;-)
I dunno whether it's possible to be a "stan" of an ILX poster, but yeah.
― Robin van Injury (country matters), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link
where's rooney
― GTT (jergins), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link
He is injured, unfortunately. For quite a while.
― Robin van Injury (country matters), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Spanish Radio Nacional currently reporting that England fans have been THROWING ORANGES AND OTHER FRUIT around. Then in same breath the presenter adds that the English media haven't been going heavy on any racism-in-Spain stories in the run-up. Just as well, since England is hardly on the moral high ground now its fans are throwing perfectly edible citrus products around, eh?
― Zoe Espera, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
ITV's bigging up of their FA Cup coverage isn't fooling anyone, you know. Why am I thinking about watching this? Just because it's not Minder-starring-Shane-Richie?
― ailsa, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
487 people at the Wales game. Good reaction to Toshack's new contract eh?
― ducking kiosk monkey (onimo), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
to be fair, it was a friendly. In Portugal. And, er, it's Wales :-)
― ailsa, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
shit, thanks for reminding me this was on
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
i finally just realized why i haven't learned anything about football since being in the UK and it's because i've been listening to the television commentators instead of 5live
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
The only thing you'll learn off Alan Green is just how badly you want to punch Alan Green in the mouth.
― Otto von Biz Markie (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
The Spanish fans booed the English national anthem.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
The Spanish players came out late.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
David Pleat said 'clever, technical players'.
hey Robbie Keane has scored twice, in Ireland!
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
nice camera work itv.
'mexican wave'?? isn't it just 'the wave'?
― a q khan *released* (jergins), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Jaaames
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
"A Villa-dominated England team are behind to a player called Villa".
Yes, well done.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sort of hoping that this England team will get beaten 4-0 or so. I'm not sure why. I guess I've often felt that way. OK that ain't gonna happen, but they could always do with being taught a lesson.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
A LESSON IN A FOOTBALLING SENSE
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
is it because you hate the villa?
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
For some reason I think that if we lose 4-0 it would just be "oh, its just a friendly, with no rooney/gerrard/walcott/lampard etc. against the world champions" and treated as a non story. For once papers can misguidedly grab onto the silly notion of England having a chance when it comes to the world cup, whereas under McLaren it would have been FOR SHAAAME.
― cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
haha sheringham repeating the pinefox
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
no, I don't. I've never liked them, but I like Martin O'Neill a lot so that has changed my feelings I think. Probably like a lot of other people.
Terry Sherrinan is talkinn on TV
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
oh did Sherrinan say a lesson in a footballing sense ??
nah, he just said "we've been taught a footballing lesson"
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Andy Townsend seems to think maybe that Heskey isn't that talented !!!
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone got a working stream of this?
― caek, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.justin.tv/dragonblades5 is working for me
― a q khan *released* (jergins), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
enjoying pleat tonight as he backs himself down various verbal cul-de-sacs.
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
the music is making pleat speak faster
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
you can watch it on itv.com legally btw.
― cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Pleat needs taking out to the paddock to be shot.
Andres Iniesta however, needs to get his arse into gear and get on a plane to sign for Liverpool, he's fantastic. The pass he produced on 41 minutes was art.
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
while he's at it, he can bring Xavi and Sergio Ramos.
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i think itv.com is windows-only
― caek, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
pleat and motson together would be fun
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
how easy has it been for spain to work out england's threat in the first 10 minutes and then just sit on it very efficiently...
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
and itv's online component is uk-only i think (i can't get it to work)
― a q khan *released* (jergins), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
there';s only ten minutes left but try here: http://www.channelsurfing.net/
― problem chimp (Porkpie), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
fearless and forceful, eh
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link
another player with an asset, a good asset, good in the air
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link
boring game, more even than was being made out, although Spain were slightly on top
ITV need to die
― Robin van Injury (country matters), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
beckham toking before the game?
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
that was a logistical beatdown
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Slightly? They slightly had the ball for about about 80 minutes.xxp
― ducking kiosk monkey (onimo), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
England actually had more chances, somehow
― Robin van Injury (country matters), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Big Sam: 'we'll never be as good as them'
this fellow was interviewed for England manager's job
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Sheringham is surprisingly incisive, maybe - I didn't expect it
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
England's players are more affected by the recession than their Iberian counterparts.
― whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Big Sam: the baby's head talks!
did any of you see the Ireland game? gotta be honest and say that was about the worst refereeing decision I've ever seen that got us the first goal. that said people say trappatoni is a lucky manager after every single game. he must be offering us something.
mcgeady had far and away his best ever game for Ireland tonight and keith andrews looks great too, doesn't make errors at least. glenn whelan v poor imo, gives the ball away non stop. keane got the goals but kevin doyle is a real Irish player, brilliant workrate.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i would have preferred that one Ro but my TV didn't pick it up. the england game was truly horrendous, like watching a heavyweight boxer toy with a punching bag.
not sure how this is measured but however it is measured it is clearly useless as far as establishing a metric for "did this team have a chance in hell".
the commentary kept speaking of "positive" moves by england, which as far as i could see meant various attempts to make solo runs against three defenders and then losing the ball or falling down. or lofting long passes up to the big man which were intercepted. if that's "positive" then you can keep it.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sort of hoping that this England team will get beaten 4-0 or so
It's funny, but England teams never get beat 4-0 or whatever, no matter how terrible they are. I wonder if England teams don't treated with too much respect.
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Ronan/PF/Anyone that's seen the Ireland game on TV-
what was the penalty given for? or was it as unclear to TV viewers?
― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 February 2009 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
England did lose 4-1 to Denmark...but hey it was only a friendly...
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link
When was that?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
August 2005
heaviest defeat since Wales in 1980!
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw the words 'Carlton Cole' and didn't bother watching. Sounds like I didn't miss a great deal.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Carlton Cole is unfairly saddled with the same name as Carlton Palmer.
― Alba, Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link
and they both have a cousin Will
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Too many Coles in general
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
c. cole completely whiffed england's most open shot on goal all night (on a pass from beckham, obv)
i didn't see the stats on possession.. it really felt like 90%-10% for the majority of the game.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
He didn't really "whiff" it, Reina saved it.
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, SWP working hard to join the All-England Divers All-Star Team, but some way to go before he can compete with Owen, Gerrard, J. Cole
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link
he's not a diver he really can't help falling over so much
― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Interesting that, these days, England dive more than Spain
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:23 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, arguable, but not much in it
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Tom i of course meant "whiff" in the metaphorical sense here, but i can see how in this context it would be misleading.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I was trying to watch on a particularly jerky stream. It made for terrible watching, but it was quite interesting to see the patterns of possession without being distracted by effort and fancy tricks and that. My viewing went something like this:
frame 1 - Spain comfortably in possession on the halfway lineframe 2 - Xavi gets the ball midway inside the England halfframes 3 to 7 - sideways passes as the white shirts are pulled about in pursuit of the ball, red shirts interchanging at willframe 8 - red shirt turning on the edge of the boxframe 9 - forward breaking past last man(unseen - last-ditch tackle)frame 10 - white shirt on the ball, looking for optionsframe 11 - as frame 1
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link
uncanny!
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 February 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Darragh the penalty was given for a handball apparently. It was outrageous, the ball skimmed the top of one of the defenders shoulders on its way to Keane in an offside position. The linesman flagged, presumably for the offside, but the ref gave a penalty. It's unclear if the ref responded to the linesman or not but they had a bit of a chat with the ref seemingly standing firm.
V v strange.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link
it looked exactly like that level of a fuckup from the stands, but without the benefit of replays it left us clueless.
v v welcome tho.
― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link
didn't marchena block it? I thought Carlton Cole did v well with that chance.
x-post yeah it was utterly insane, like people say worst decision they've ever seen all the time but that really was. some of the papers today say Keane scored the second with the same part of his shoulder. is it true there were about 20,000 empty seats? Irish sports teams are really stepping up to the recession plate.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
which as far as i could see meant various attempts to make solo runs against three defenders and then losing the ball or falling down.
I noticed this too, very annoying
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 12 February 2009 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
short of hill 16 being empty (i assumed this was for regulation reasons about terraces myself) there didn't seem to be too many. plenty of tickets bought on the door at knockdown prices i'd say.
― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link
starting to really fancy us for second place. i was working through the game, so could only dip in and out of the action. everyone seemed to agree mcgeady did very well, which i find hard to believe but will grudgingly accept. never rated him before.
from the bits i did see, doyle looked to be playing well and robbie keane looked to be doing very little. these may have been unrepresentative passages of play tho, and credit to robbie for getting the 2 goals. andrews is a welcome addition i think, given that trap would play gibson and whelan otherwise - not a huge fan of whelan and *certainly* not a fan of gibson. we could still really do with trap getting over his dislike of andy reid, stephen reid getting over his injuries, or daddy dick getting over his, eh, issues.
― Weasel Diesel, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
robbie had a bad game. was more noticeable for his incessant harrassment of the ref while the ball bounced a yard in fornt of him than anything else. but that seemed to work, and doyle didn't look like getting two goals for all his work rate.
mcgeady was pretty good all night, apart from a 15 minute period in the second half when he was brilliant.
centre mid was poor both off and on the ball all night. for all that both lads are temporary stopgaps, italy could inflict huge damage on confidence against a pairing like gibson and andrews/whelan.
― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I see McGeady play every week and he's easily the most talented/skilful player in Scotland and possibly the most infuriating at the same time. It's good that he can transfer that to the international arena :)
― ducking kiosk monkey (onimo), Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link
last night was impressive all round, but yeah he's had his off nights for the boys in green alright.
stephen hunt must feel hard done by, but can't see where he fits in with duff, keane, doyle, and mcgeady all fit. trap isn't going to introduce an in-the-hole-paul-scholes-goals-against-the-poles position just for him.
― Redknapp out (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
hunt's always best off the bench for us anyway. he can still play a big part, but not in the starting xi. damien duff is well past his best, but he does seem to take almost all of the creative responsibility (tho maybe mcgeady is now ready to share this burden). a contrast with robbie keane, who is usually hiding when the going gets tough.
― Weasel Diesel, Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Heskey!
Amazing piece of skill by Gerrard to set that one up.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL the duality of Heskey
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
also that was a *fabulous* goal
if it wasn't an og
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Green's ire at the new strip and delayed KO actually entertaining in a way.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Speaking of Green, why does he keep dropping the word "quote" into the middle of sentences?
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
he does?
Just now: poor corner from new sub Beckham.
Lawro: "Get 'im off ... he's never been a crosser".
― the pinefox, Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
In the Northern Ireland game NI have just scored after Boruc took a fresh air swipe after a backpass. He's been making howlers all game after costing the 1st goal.
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
xp yeah I think it's and indicator he's dropping some challops. And I think Lawro was attempting irony there.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
"substitutes are a big part of the game these days!"
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
partnering rooney has been a poisoned chalice today
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
So is Rooney the only fit English striker left in the country?
― Matt DC, Saturday, 28 March 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been calling for lampard-rooney partnership for ages
meanwhile, UFO spotted in Belfast:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45612000/gif/_45612138_atrouble.gif
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Surely just play Rooney as Gerrard's Torres w/ Lamps and Barry behind (and Young/Joe Clole on the left and whoever's playing best out of Lennon/Theo/SWP/Beckham) and you'd finally have everyone playing where they play best together? There is no striker in the country bar Rooney who is actually of an international grade, although if Ablongahor/Defoe have good seasons next year they can be back-up to him.
― there's a big metaphor going on in which pussy is medicine (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 March 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Rooney isn't very good as a lone striker though. You never see him play that role for Man United and he's never done it very well for England. Not that we'll have any choice against Ukraine barring a recovery from one of the others.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 28 March 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe Owen will get a call up
― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 28 March 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
True but I think with a very attacking, fast midfield behind him that's encouraged to go join him and be part of the action, Rooney could be a very good lone striker. The only times I ever really seen him in the role it was McLaren's insipid side with Lampard and Gerrard getting confused who should go forward with neither actually doing so + no real help from the wings, or a United side that's kind of slow (Scholes, Giggs), likes to sit back and do the playmaker thing (Anderson, Carrick) or just isn't focused in the art of attacking because he's busy doing the other stuff (Fletcher, Park) and Ronaldo having a free role.
A fast, attacking minded midfield - hell even Barry is a box to box guy trying to get in on the action when he plays at his best - would be a lot different.
― there's a big metaphor going on in which pussy is medicine (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 28 March 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
This is going to be a bit embarassing, isn't it?
― Matt DC, Saturday, 6 June 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link
stream i'm on is totally fuxored since the goal
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Saturday, 6 June 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
another boring goal hurrah!
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Saturday, 6 June 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
God, this is the shittest rout ever.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 6 June 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
totally ok with not watching or listening to this
― the England guy that throws the balls (country matters), Saturday, 6 June 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
this is a blow-by-blow description of the champions league final as well
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 6 June 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
if Croatia v Ukraine stays a draw looks like England could qualify by beating Croatia in September with two games remaining but i'm sure it won't be as easy as that
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Saturday, 6 June 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
IRIOT!
― Alba, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
RIO! RIIIIO!
One of the best center backs in the world.
― Suedey 2, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Rob Green, you got merked.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
lol twice
― Suedey 2, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe they just dont like Rob Green
― Suedey 2, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
WILL'EM DEFOE
― unban dictionary (blueski), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
The idea of Carlton Cole and James Milner looking totally comfortable on the international stage would have been hilarious three years ago. Carlton Cole is a thing. Carlton Cole is better at Didier Drogba than Didier Drogba.
― Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
It may have been hilarious one year ago to be fair. It also might just have been a friendly to be fair.
I was wondering what wing demon the fuck that was laying on Defoe's 2nd (a friend and I watched most of the 2nd half in a pub after a cricket match). Then, the glimpse of an impossibly jutted chin, set-back eyes, expression of grim determination...it could only be he
lololol "Carlton Cole is a thing"...to use Pro Evo parlance, he did Post Player better than almost anyone else I've seen today
― cockles (country matters), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
It's just a friendly. Luckily for both Carlton Cole and James Milner both are in a position with half-decent clubs where there'll be able to play pretty much every game this season, fitness permitting. Be interesting to see how they turn out, Cole especially.
Overjoyed at Defoe goals obviously, good to be going into the season with an in-form striker for once.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
His first goal had such a ridiculously small margin of error, but it was just three touches and in.
― Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Cole's miss was my favorite thing in the game.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
What's a post player?
Defoe's first was classy.
― fruity gonzalo (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
very dissapointing performance from our boys. ;) Englad actually seemed a much better team. this cannot be true. (seemed to me Capello played with a lot better players in 2nd half, he should stick with those)
― Ludo, Thursday, 13 August 2009 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Post Player in Pro Evo is a skill some strikers have; generally big target men who knock it down or hold it up for little quick dudes to run onto and score.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 13 August 2009 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I was actually really impressed with Cole's first touch and control, there was one shot he made with just a couple of swift touches that was great. I'd kind of assumed he was a bit of a joke before but hey you never know...
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 August 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah Matt, that's the miss I'm talking about.
"Post player" a basketball term, too. I wonder if Pro Evo borrowed it from that? There are a lot of basketball roles that also exist in soccer IMO.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 August 2009 09:13 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 August 2009 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link
johnson was fucking things up literally from the first touch
Pretty much all of the established big players looked like they were playing at walking pace and making wilfully bad passes in protest at having to play.
― Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Thursday, 13 August 2009 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Rooney and SWP more in their traditional no I'm the best player let me do it I can skin all of them me modes.
― Susan Tully Blanchard (MPx4A), Thursday, 13 August 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Wayne Bridge has pulled out of the squad - his position is "untenable and potentially divisive" apparently.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Says who? He himself, or Capello? It would be quite funny if it was JT mouthing off.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:10 (fourteen years ago) link
wow.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link
England's defence at the World Cup is going to be embarassing if things continue this way. A seemingly-permanently-injured Ferdinand, an off-form Terry, a shit Glen Johnson and a just-back-from-injury Ashley Cole/some other loser. Oh also lol English goalkeeping.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link
hibbert, dawson, johnson, baines
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Terry must now carry with him the additional burden of knowing his own actions have resulted in someone he used to class as a close friend missing the biggest tournament any professional can be involved in.
yes this is bound to weigh heavily on the famously introspective and considerate john terry.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Calling Ryan Shawcross (xp)
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh i'd love to see a capello led defence of hart; hibbert, dann, johnson, baines/warnock - not exactly milan 91 but for 10 games or whatever? it could be great. or yeah, shawcross xpost
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link
warnock is easily england class.
dawson is a liability, though. would fuck you at first opportunity under a high pressure situation.
most of the players here could easily perform defensive duties as a unit for capello, as long as the press/pundits didn't start to get on his back about the (secondary) consideration of their 'footballing' abilities.
lol spurs, basically
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
any chance of lol woodgate being not-dead?
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
never a chance of him being back match fit- sorry england, because he is class.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Phil Jagielka plays tonight, btw- is he any better than Dawson as a player that people see every now and again and think 'he's not as bad as I thought'
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Whither LOLean Lescott?
― Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
let's just get psycho back out there as left back.
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Lescott was an obvious choice this time last year, but tbh I'd take king ahead of him at this stage
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Chelsea v Man City is gonna be fun this weekend, isn't it?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
terry to 'do' bridge rather than the more just reverse imo
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Never even occurred to me - I was thinking out of this weekend's four games that that was the one I could safely miss.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Jagielka was the shit, I just forgot he is still breathing.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
So yeah, thinking about the way England have been set up under Capello, and the possibility of going to the World Cup with Leighton Baines and Steven Warnock, neither of whom are the sort to bomb forward at every opportunity.
Surely the rationale of playing Gerrard on the left was it kept him out of Lampard's way and Ashley Cole attacking down the left flank allowed him to drift further infield/maraud forward etc. That's got to be under threat with a more defensive left-back... good for James Milner or Joe Cole I'd say.
Then again the way things are going this may just entail switching Gerrard to the right.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link
or just not play him? he's not at his best form or late non?
I for one am incredibly glad we won't have two attacking minded full backs considering the state of lol glen johnson. In fact I wouldn't be averse to picking Brown, especially if we were to come up against a Di Maria or Ribery or Ronaldinho...
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I had forgotten all about Ribery 'til I inadvertently flicked on espn at my parents' at the weekend, just as he was running straight at some terrified defenders like he was in that pink panther advert. Love him all over again now.
Much as I hate Ashley, he's far too good for England to easily get by without him this summer.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Its fine, every world cup there is a 'oh noes will player x make it back in time? oh well he'll only miss the first match' bit going on
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
good luck usa
― caek, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link
And then they come back and play like shit until we go out.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but this time it'll be an adulterers fault we go out...
oh wait...
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link
petty thug replaces philanderer as skippa
― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/ts_magazine_big_picture/england_future.jpg
― mizzell, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
The future of England has lots of people looking at angles.
― Inspector Anthony Slade, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
a remarkable amount of odd eyebrow-action on the go there.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Wayne Rooney is larfing.
At You!
― Mark G, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Rooney's all "I've been shit for six years now, but still I'm here!"
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The future of England is a bit shonky at the back.
― Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Phil Jones was robbed. And maybe Smalling I guess.
Also weh to Sturridge and Delfounso?
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Think Welbeck is starting to look p deserving of a place, at least on the bench too. and Cattermole for the 'i'm mark van bommel and i will kill your whole family' role every modern side needs.
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
muamba should be ahead of rodwell, right?
― mizzell, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Dunno, haven't watched much Bolton this season. I guess their league position suggests that yes, maybe he should be.
― sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope the option will be for Wilshere to stay in front of the back four, like a centre-backFabio Capello
Fabio Capello
guys does capello not know what a centre back is?
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 8 February 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Steve McClaren is available btw
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Why has EBJT not pulled out of the squad? Does he need the appearance fee?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 February 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Maybe he means an old skool centre back like in 2-3-5 days, but with 4 at the back :/
― AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
This might be a radical interpretation but I think he means he's supposed to defend rather than go forward.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone else on side of the mighty Ickle Feo / Darren Bent dream team?
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
blind feo: like regular feo but can put a decent cross in
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Can pass the ball but still can't pass other players.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
has wilshere saved the empire yet?
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Was hardly given the ball due to being a filthy cheating foreigner etc.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I hope Dong Energy are proud to be associated with Bent and Young.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Liverpool apparently have a new player, some fella called Daniel Arger, well according to Fat Sam anyway.
― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
No one knows a good deal about him.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Southgate to Allardyce: "the great thing was that we didn't see a single long ball all night, Sam"
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw less than 5 minutes of the game and during that period I saw whoever was England right back hoof it half the length of the pitch.
― Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
In the last half-hourDenmark 1-2 England RTE 21:23Young Seals Win For Lively England Sporting Life 21:19Young upstages Wilshere as England beat Denmark ESPN.co.uk 21:15
In the last hourSomething Arsenal fans didn't think they see this season? AshburtonGrove.co.uk (Weblog) 20:47Jack Wilshere: Destined For Failure Bleacher Report 20:43
4 articles to have turned up so far, 2 of which diss a guy who i thought was decent. Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with the press? Destined for failure from his first start?
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Wilshere was fine/good. England looked a bit ropey defensively first half, but then again that was against Denmark's First Team. Basically the England subs were of the same quality as English starting eleven whereas Denmark's subs were poorer than their starting eleven, hence England looked better second half. An over simplification probably, but roughly how I saw it. That destined for failure piece must be a joke right?
― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
That was p much England's first team though? I mean I know Wilshere is new and Dawson was there and there is no absolute replacement for Heskey but the rest is the locked XI.
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Also dunno, refused to click it.
― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a piece lamenting the Wilshere hype just now because he's inevitably going to be knocked down when the media get bored of him. I might try and write a 'he's shit' one myself now.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I meant that I don't think there is that much of a drop off between certain England first teamers and their back ups. At least not as big a drop off as there is for Denmark. So England's first team is slightly better then Denmark's, but England's squad as a whole is a lot better than Denmark's. At least on the basis of this one game.
But yeah Wilshere is almost certainly the real deal and fools be trippin'.
― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
In other International news Gourcuff looked good tonight from the 50 or so mins I saw tonight. One exquisite through ball to Benzema (which he pulled wide). Brazil dude sent off for a De Jong on Alonso-esque high kick on aforementioned Benzema, so I couldn't be bothered to watch the rest of the game.
― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno, just looked like the usual england cowardly messiah complex again. against france they stick andy carroll up by himself and expect... uhhh... something... but never support him in numbers. against denmark the defenders pass it to wilshere, who looks up and sees everyone standing around miles away like pillocks as the nation waits with baited breath. he has little option but to pass to a fullback, who if they're called glen johnson falls over and loses it. wash, rinse, repeat.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey Glen Johnson had an assist.......along with squandering possession a couple of dozen times admittedly, but look an assist!
― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
The "destined for failure" report is actually a comment on how the media hype surrounding his first cap will have scribes sharpening their pens for him should he fail to become the Best Thing Ever at some unspecified point.
― AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Young Seals Win For Lively England Sporting Life 21:19
http://www.romesnowboards.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/baby.seal-708316.jpg
― Tom D (Lenin's his feir and Liebknecht's his mate) (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 February 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I actually thought the 1st half was pretty good.
― The referee was perfect (Chris), Thursday, 10 February 2011 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
this captaincy thing....like is capello on the sauce or something? what kind of moron causes such a shitstorm and man manages the whole thing so badly?
― Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Friday, 25 March 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
I think at this point he's just trolling.
― you can be happy also (onimo), Friday, 25 March 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
total non-story mountain out of molehill as usual imo
― no geirs with attitude (blueski), Friday, 25 March 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9107386@N06/5563512899/
- There WAS a rogue one in there
Capello reacts
― the pinefox, Sunday, 27 March 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
honestly yesterday this was a dece EPL team beating a dece Championship team right? don't really get these "second coming" vibes
― a SB-in' artist that been in the game for a minute (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 March 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
This match is great, feels like the World Cup
I think Leighton Baines should probably have just got a straight red?
― MPx4A, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
except for England like having some shots on target and possession and stuff
― MPx4A, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
Cap out?
https://twitter.com/#!/search/capello
― the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
Looks like a baseless load of old internet shite. As you were.
― the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://i55.tinypic.com/24gn78j.jpg
― the goon is in the gutter (onimo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
love Super Roberto
― Deeez Nuuults (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link
gone
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
Breaking on SSN that he's just quit...
xpost as deems can search faster than me
― ailsa, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
bye bye
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
ffs
― mizzell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
on the fa site: http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/080212.aspx
― wmlynch, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
tbf ailsa i'm on the phone :)
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
Me too :)
Arry in then?
― ailsa, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
stuart pearce!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Ciao, Fabio!
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
arry part-time or straight swap
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
im sure most english people would prefer 'arry than capello in charge at the euros.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
barry fry, ladies and gentlemen
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
haw dogfucker redknapp has all the luck
he'll take them over for the summer pretending his arm has been twisted or patriotic duty etc etc
then if hes not a total failure he gets a huge contract for the world cup else he just goes back to tottenham and it gets seen as a temporary episode a la ferguson in 86
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
john terry saves england by getting 'arry in as manager
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
can't see England or Spurs being too pleased with him playing two roles for the next three months tho
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
he will take over as soon as season has ended like nakh says
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
Get Terry in as player-manager
― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
I'm amazed.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
International manager is a part time job tbh and Arry has shown over the past few weeks he can do the Spurs job part time too.
― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
Wouldn't surprise me if most english fans will be happier having an english manager at the euros.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
England doesn't actually need doing, most of the time. 'Arry in, for a bit, in May is the right call.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
get Walter Winterbottom back in iyam
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
Pardew for England
― eating a sausage as I type this (admrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
terry causes spurs to be overhauled by chelsea in league due to 'arry getting england job
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:46 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
daresay this hypothesis will be proved right both in tabloid phone polls and on-the-spot Sky Sports interviews with the public
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
john terry must really have it in for darraghmac
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
anyway yeah if this led to a tacit admission that the England boss doesn't actually need to go to games every Saturday I would be OK with that but ppl be crabby
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
darraghmac is not white??
― eating a sausage as I type this (admrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
nope
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
the irish are the blind of the british isles
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
loooool
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
I guess the Redknapp jury will have their own corporate box at the FA Cup final.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
bitter gooners, this season has been a landmark and no mistake
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
"Yeah, we went out in the groups but I only had the players for three weeks, it's a miracle we got that goal. We had not scored in a major competition for two years when I got the job, you have to remember that," said Sir 'arry Redknapp on his triumphant return to Heathrow.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
loooooooooool if he quit over terry and terry is declared guilty, capello is gonna look like a total prick
my bet is stuart pearce will take over for the summer and then jose will take the job when he leaves madrid
didn't hiddick manage russia during his spell at chelsea? and he did pretty well - harry could easily do something similar if asked, especially considering he already works in the country and sees more english football upfront every week/has members of the squad already at training and so on. would totally piss off his own english players if he doesnt choose them though, and the rest of the country if he does but not on merit.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Can we get a "RIP Big Man" or some other Passantinoism up in this area over the death of this Anglo-Italian partnership?
― Cold Chisel dude Cold Chisel (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
nah but seriously: lol england
if he quit over terry and terry is declared guilty, capello is gonna look like a total prick
ehh not really, in that event I imagine he'd fall back on the *principle*
if it was a case of him chucking away a golden chance for one real bit of glory in his career then fair enough but...
― Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
Most depressing thing I've learned is that Rooney's still favourite to be England's leading scorer
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
deems who do you want to replace 'arry? Jol? Mourinho? Benitez? O'Neill? Pardew?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
FakeCosmos Fake CosmosWelcome Fabio Capello, @TheNYCosmos' 40th Director of Soccer!
― long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
Rogers would be a good shout imo. Or Pozzo at Udinese, as he is doing exactly the same as 'Arry atm with a lot less means (terrific talent scout, knows how to work w/ homegrown, gets the best out of youngsters; making Udinese look like a top 4 team each year. Looking like a top 4 team this year is especially looking special considering Udi had to sell their best two players.)
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
Shearer could do it. In England's hour of need. One big, happy tent. I can't believe this wasn't the first thing I thought.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
the whole episode is so stupid and p hilair given that the identity of the captain is p arbitrary and unimportant in proper fitba teams
capellos stance at least upholds the presumption of innocence, removing the captaincy is the sort of craven pussyfooting the fa specialize in, shd either be a suspension pending investigation or treated as he had been hitherto
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
the fa wd rather let the remedial and now resentful cunt foment divisions in the squad a la holland 1996 than take the fury of the volkist press by suspending him
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
there's no way Terry wont make the squad is there?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
He's not going to pull out especially with the court case afterwards and he'd fear those actions would be like an admission of guilt. Even though everythings allover youtube anyway..
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
they cld lean on the next manager to drop him
his form isnt great so it can be dressed up as a footballistic decision
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Guus Hiddink is trending topic w/r/t this
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
FakeBobBradley Coach AladdinYes, it is true folks. I've already been offered the England job. I've turned it down. This one seems easier.
― long duk dan (dan m), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
oxymoron alert. gazza wants "an English manager, someone who knows what they're doing."
like the FA, run by English men, people who know what they're doing.
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
gazza is just a moron alert
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
we want team spirit, none of this bickering
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
there's no way it wont be redknapp. Though id assume pearce to end of season as interim manager and 'arry taking over at end of season.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
Has the FA suspended a player from the England squad before? Is it something they can do?
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
so how does this go at the FA? "ok we've had a cerebral tactician as manager and seen him off, let's ditch tactics and get some gung ho team spirit back in the dressing room"
or something more or less ludicrous.
capello's acted marginally boneheadedly before tonight but the best result was the FA being called out. it looks as though they are trying to outdo the RFU for sheer dunderheaded twattishness.
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
The FA, though - is there a single example of them being competent?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
In 2002 Terry was involved in an incident at a West London nightclub with Chelsea team mate Jody Morris and Wimbledon's Des Byrne. He was charged with assault and affray, but later cleared.[18] During the affair, he was given a temporary ban from the England national side by the FA.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
beautiful
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
can't recall if they have. but this is john terry. some people make some decisions much easier.
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
― Cold Chisel dude Cold Chisel (King Boy Pato), woensdag 8 februari 2012 21:34 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^ this x 1000.
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
yah same as with bowyer woodgate and same as it would be now for kids or fringe players
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
btw Does this mean the FA is apologetic of racism and feels the strong need to back up people that are cunts? There's be dancing of all English cunts in the streets tonight, surely.
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
There'll
https://yfrog.com/Himg576/scaled.php?tn=0&server=576&filename=76kuh.jpg&xsize=480&ysize=480
― john terje (cozen), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
Hmm, maybe he was banned from the U21s at the time of the nightclub incident because he didn't get his first cap until 2003.
(I was moved to look that up because I was mildly nauseated at the idea of a whole decade slipping by, JT an England international for all of it).
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/2/8/1328731790886/England-Training--Press-C-017.jpg
― eating a sausage as I type this (admrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
The FA were right to strip Terry of the captaincy. Capello had been desperate to get out for ages, we all know he doesn't care about the captaincy that much.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
they suggested this on Monday's Guardian Football Weekly podcast
― eating a sausage as I type this (admrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
p sure this was an actual resignation fwiw
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
Entertaining subplot - the FA will now have to negotiate with Levy, who is probably wetting himself with excitement at another opportunity to play hardman.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
srsly levy has bought a silk glove and a jar of vaseline and is sitting naked in a dark room beside a gold phone
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
All true. Well done the FA for handing him the opportunity.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
that was gonna happen this summer anyway
why anyone would want the england job i have no idea. at least at madrid it is crazy landscape + an awesome set of players you can change if you want. at england it is just crazy.
still think my suggestion of rafa is otm in that he is the funniest troll of the english press, unemployed and knows his way around cup competitions.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
Was an xp about Capello, not that lovely image.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
Rafa wouldn't be a bad choice. He also wouldn't give a toss about the vilification.
But I've a sneaking suspicion we might get Hodgson For England after all.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
proper candidates:
Redknapp- but they're gonna hate it, and levy will force them to give us wembley or s/t
Pardew- nah
Pearce- nah
Mourinho- too soon for int'l management imo
Hiddink- too foreign
?
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
hodgson! One for the lfc cru.
Allardyce?
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Hodgson for England would be Hodgson at Liverpool all over again. If he weren't likeable, it'd be compulsive viewing.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
Hodgson and England deserve each other, this is true.
Although iirc Hodgson said from now on he would only take a job where the majority of fan opinion was favourable towards him at the start which considering the whole Arry for England thing seems unlikely.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
i doubt that england fans would hate him just because capello left, tbh
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
you turned traitor you cunt?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
Aw yeah, you've got to love this ain'tcha?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
You cunt.
:)
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
just checking you hadn't gone gorman on us..
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
lol u guys
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
gone german on us?
― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
rooney tweets redknapp
D bent presumably not
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
going german is fine, english on the other hand...
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Rafa is amazing at knockout football, he'd probably win England the Euros.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
The players taking sides already? This gets better and better.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
and no deems i dont mean like Éamon de Valera in ww2 ;)
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
pick that out
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
^ knows his stuff
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
Marcelino for England?
― eating a sausage as I type this (admrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
daniel levy has been spotted wearing a daniel levy mask
cunts are outside his house now
owen 'never felt right' with a foreigner in charge shut your maw you little fuckless prick
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
trap in
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
rooney obviously concerned about tottenham's title challenge.shook.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
owen has still got an important goal in him iirc. The Euro's beckons.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
i thought owen had retired.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
The Europa League beckons, maybe.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
all the habeens who had been frozen out under capello will now be tweeting they wany 'arry in hope he picks them. Wonder what Lampard will be thinking.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
*hasbeens
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
lampard will be thinking 'my uncle'
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
lampard for captain then
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
The BBC website's been offering me Sheff Wed v Blackpool live all evening (and still is). The whole country's gone to pieces.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
jamie as coach
has the boro game got to penalties yet?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
Hahaha, this has been a beautiful evening.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
gareth southgate has invaded roy keane's personal space one time too many in the ITV studio and has lost an arm, amazing stuff here brian
Keane reckons rooney should have shut up, kept his head down, maybe if he'd worked harder and behaved better he'd have helped his manager a bit more at the end of the day- all spat through clenched teeth as southgate scrambles around looking for ice and suturing facilities
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt DC, woensdag 8 februari 2012 22:38 (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM, but still disappointing because it could've been played in a way more LOL-sy way tbh
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
have we had any update on the whereabouts of phil brown?
― john terje (cozen), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
during the boro/sunderland match, they had a breaking twitter update from rooney. lolitv.
― kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
Michael Owen - "Don't know if was just me but it never felt right in the first place knowing the England manager was heading off after the Euros regardless."
This sounds like it's less about where Fabio's from than where England go after the competition.
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
ha
serves me right for reading the quotes as they flashed on sky sports news
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/lampardEPA_450x349.jpg
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
otm!
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
deems' post on Southgate vs Keane is a joy.
― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
that's just how it went down tbh
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
Busy preventing suicides
― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:08 (twelve years ago) link
they shd give Pearce the job full time and take the English manager shit to its logical conclusion. Pearce shd be forced to do the job dressed up like that nonce in the Union Jack suit that used to turn up at Cup finals to touch up kids.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:13 (twelve years ago) link
i say "forced" but i assume he's got his own suit.
alternatively, Pearce shd only be seen in Union Jack shorts and a Maiden t-shirt, and he shd administer a loyalty oath to all capped players.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:14 (twelve years ago) link
pb the truth busy preventing suicides is still sort of true, odd http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17012012/63/brown-wants-help-windass.html
― who can judge namitha (toandos), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:17 (twelve years ago) link
Brown told BBC Radio Humberside: "Communication lines must be kept open with regards to himself and his former colleagues. There should be liaison officers at football clubs that speak to past and present players."
this from the cunt that wdn't give Deano a game in the Premier League
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:19 (twelve years ago) link
Pearce shd be forced to do the job dressed up like that nonce in the Union Jack suit that used to turn up at Cup finals to touch up kids.
One of the most beautiful sentences ever in the English language
― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link
Google says he was found not guilty. I'd apologise but he's dead.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
Cannot believe a Wayne Rooney tweet about 'arry is the lead story on the BBC News site.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
you can't?
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:27 (twelve years ago) link
I suppose he's right, it's got to be English to replace him. Rooney's played under some shit Scottish managers, after all.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
also tbf the last team the national team had an English manager it was a success. Better than this crap we had to put up with under Capello. None of the abject humiliation at a Finals like South Africa 2010.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWptErAWrmQ
english for the dutch sounding jobs
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
Wonder if 'arry will turn down the opportunity to take on two highly-paid jobs at once?
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
wonder if the FA will pay him through monaco
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link
"The FA has appointed Rosie Redknapp, aged 4, as the new Engerland manager."
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
LATEST:PM says he is sorry to see Fabio Capello go but believes he was wrong about the John Terry's captaincy
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:27 (twelve years ago) link
okay, it was fun last night but this has gone on long enough
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
I mean I actually think Redknapp is the best person available to deal with England's main problem, which is the combination of disinterest, disgust and crippling stage fright that affects most of the players past a certain level of experience. But the jingoistic nonsense is making me wish he wasn't. Plus, it will make Ian Wright happy and anything that makes Ian Wright happy should be resisted with maximum force.
Probably a good day to be a Spurs player on the fringes of the squad though - Lennon, Walker, Dawson must be pretty happy this morning.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
king
Thudd less so.
Who the fuck is richard williams and why is his puke festering on the pages of my national newspaper
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link
yes
has lennon been in any recent squads? (for england i mean) I don't rate him tbh but then again...walcott.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
Most successful English manager of his generation, innee? Beat Cardiff in an FA Cup final, that's quite an achievement.
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:03 (twelve years ago) link
dawson was the best player on the pitch at anfield monday night imo
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:03 (twelve years ago) link
lennon has been in and out with injuries but is streets ahead of where he was before redknapp came. He's been excellent this season when fit.
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
and yeah, dawson shouldn't be considered fringe, dawson is prob as close to the player terry is claimed as ye've got
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
if not harry then i hope the fa is aware of a certain young tyro who is running away with ILF's fantasy football this season, inexperienced - yes, and not english, but 'best man for the job' etc
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
you really wanna see danny rose in an england shirt huh....
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:09 (twelve years ago) link
Reckon Jones and Smalling were ahead of Dawson in the pecking order because they can play right across the back four if need be.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:10 (twelve years ago) link
Smalling doesn't impress me at all at right back but
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I mean you've got Richards, Walker and Johnson as it is so it shouldn't even be necessary but in the event of a crisis...
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:12 (twelve years ago) link
bentley's already been capped iirc rose can't be any worse
good chance to get rid of ferdinand AND terry tbh. Both not good enough anymore.xxp
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:12 (twelve years ago) link
i am more intrigued than anything by Arry's stance toward the busted flush that is almost every England international with 40+ caps - will he drop them all, keep a couple of faces around, play the same wankers that have failed the last 3 or 4 times?
if Pearce gets a caretaker job i'm pretty sure i know how that'll go
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
i think ferdinand/terry want putting out to pasture/down respectively, alright.
I'd say walker is less likely to have a claim at rb vs dawson at cb, smalling and jones are both vg prospects and better than dawson was at that age, but he's gotten over his error-prone days and i don't know the two lads have just yet.
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
xp He'll honour old Pat Lampard by making her little boy Frank the captain, natch.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
can't see harry dropping lampard/gerrard/terry/rio tbhin fact think capello's squad = harry's squad with at most 2 exceptions maybe.defoe for bent maybe.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
guys
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
gnev for england?
YES!
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
But all seriousness being a pundit for sky is a more important job
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
as far as it pertains to my enjoyment of football anyway
i can see arry changing the centre back pairing, but if he keeps gerrard/lampard/rooney it'll be because they'll play to a good level for him.
He's not been shy dropping players for us, tbf
Parker in and captain for sure tho, and king on the plane. Already a huge improvement on capello's wc squad
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:21 (twelve years ago) link
LOL @ talk of 'Arry "wanting to show loyalty to Spurs", aye right. Once a Gooner, eh?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
this was sort of my thinking, if he can get gerrard or lampard to perform to their ability for England then good luck to him, but jokes about his nephew aside he doesn't seem to me a guy who'll play players purely on reputation
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
he doesn't seem to me a guy who'll play players purely on reputation
there is a hell of a difference between people half-paying attention to your spurs team playing third on motd and dropping stevie me
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
(specifically dropping him from the england squad, sorry.)
in all seriousness, taking away the wheeler dealer temptation will only improve him
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
The Nult has spoken
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
King on the plane is just asking for trouble I think, he can't play enough in a major tournament to make it worth the place. Much as I love him, it failed at the last World Cup.
I'm not sure Redknapp will want to walk away while Spurs are (at least theoretically) still in the title race. I don't think they'll win but I don't see him wanting to walk away from the possibility, especially if United or City trip over themselves at some point.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link
The FA may be able to muddle through the friendly against the Netherlands at Wembley later this month, but the clock will then start ticking towards that showpiece and the business of putting England in shape to make an impact.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link
Had to read that twice
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:30 (twelve years ago) link
King has played a lot more regularly this season than last, right? Personally I think he is ~a rare good dressing room influence~ and good enough that if he only plays half the games, it'll be worth it. More worthwhile than taking rooney for him not to play in the group stages anyway
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link
why not just let the "senior players" manage the team, they all fucking try to do that anyway
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link
You want a settled back pairing though, not one you have to keep changing because King can't play more than one game a week.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
tabloids to appoint 1 player as manager based on phone-in vote from EDL supporters
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
Terry + Rio duumvirate
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
sam otm
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago) link
working for spurs, matt
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:35 (twelve years ago) link
btw did anybody else wonder whether the FA's handling of l'affaire Terry was a calculated insult to Capello? timing of yesterday's events was...odd
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:36 (twelve years ago) link
nah
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link
Sky to commission production company responsible for "Who Do You Think You Are" to make series investigating backgrounds of prospective England managers, those whose English ancestry can be traced furthest back to go head-to-head in phone-in vote from EDL supporters
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link
imo you have king + dawson as yr first choices, as they already know each other so well and then dawson + yr second choice on the training ground while king spends that time in the massuese room, so dawson+secondy have at least had time together.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link
i wondered about it NV but then maybe went a bit far as to thinking if it's plausible that 2 players and a manager have been paid to act out a racist row and resignation to get another managerial candidate out of legal trouble so can take over a job. good plot i say.
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link
not a full-on conspiracy - but i'm not sure that Capello was pissed that Terry was removed so much as pissed about being cut out of the process. it seems to have been handled pretty clumsily lol surprise
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
I note that younger players were pretty solid in expressing their disappointment in Capello's departure, older players generally keeping shtum.
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
But I suppose the young 'uns likely to be tweeting more, pesky kids
Rooney said he was gutted just before he demanded an English be placed into the wicker man
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
england should play dawson + king in defense, parker DM, defoe and crouch up front, and lennon too.
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
i forgot thudd!!!
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
what a team
The FA can't do anything without fucking up, ever. The idea of them subtly manipulating Capello out the door is preposterous.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link
fabio we've had a meeting, john terry's not the captain anymore. okay mate.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link
Dunno, this guy Bernstein seems a cut above? (xp)
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
if you don't think players good enough for epl top three are good enough for england i dunno
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
^ no misspelling there btw (xp)
thudd lennon parker and y'know whoever ye want on left
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
marcotti's translation of capello's tv interview is that capello was asked about the fa's decision and if he agreed with it. capello said that he wouldn't have made the same decision because he believes in innocent until proven guilty but that the decision wasn't his to make because the fa deals with matters with regard to player conduct.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
Apart from anything else, if the verdict had gone the other way yesterday, the FA would've brought about a situation where Stuart Pearce is the outstanding candidate for the job.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of spurs players are good enough for england because england don't have many good players and whatever manager they choose that will be the case. I don't think gerrard/lampard get consistently picked merely on reputation but because they really are the best of a bad lot, or at least have been over the past decade.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:56 (twelve years ago) link
Carrick and Scholes midfield for the Euros then?
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
robinsonwalker dawson king rooney parkerlennon thudd Jenas crouch defoe
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:59 (twelve years ago) link
No place for Konchesky then?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:00 (twelve years ago) link
find me a utd fan thinks carrick and scholes are good enough
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
gerrard and lampard got picked because of their club form, neither of them has performed at international level and there comes a point where you might as well let some other poor schlub have a chance. individual ability not being the only mark of a class player, maybe pick blokes who can follow instructions and play for their team?
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
Lampard's been better for England than Gerrard?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago) link
both pish
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
i think they've both proven that at club level also.
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
xxxp to nv
still think becks should come back as captain
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:15 (twelve years ago) link
Don't watch England intently enough to notice how Lampard performs tbh, Gerrard is more blatantly shite
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:15 (twelve years ago) link
Sharpe Carrick Scholes Beckham
imo
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
parker gerrard lampardlennon young rooney
Or whoever instead of young
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
obv tho, i'd have thudd in there instead of lampard once he's back fit
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:21 (twelve years ago) link
Play them both just for the obesity lols.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:24 (twelve years ago) link
Plus Nicky Barmby and I'm sure we can convince Andy Reid he has an English grandmother somewhere.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:25 (twelve years ago) link
Harry Redknapp has declared that his focus is Tottenham Hotspur - despite being heavily linked with the England manager's job. Redknapp told the BBC News Channel that it would not be right to think about the England job. "I've never thought about it (the England job). They (the FA) will make whatever decision they want to make and hopefully be right for the country."
Redknapp told the BBC News Channel that it would not be right to think about the England job.
"I've never thought about it (the England job). They (the FA) will make whatever decision they want to make and hopefully be right for the country."
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
parker wilshere and thudd is actually my eng central mid, fwiw, and if i could think of a passer as good as thudd i'd happily swap tbh
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
scholes it is then
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
First England manager job should be convincing McClean he isn't Irish if Trapp doesn't want him.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:36 (twelve years ago) link
Norn Iron surely? Oh hold on, he's from Derry
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
Capped for NI at U21 level
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:38 (twelve years ago) link
Redknapp told the BBC News Channel that it would not be right to think about the England job. "I've never thought about it (the England job). They (the FA) will make whatever decision they want to make and hopefully be right for the country."
= "YES PLZ!!!"
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
AKA the ROI reserves
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:47 (twelve years ago) link
FA should nab Hughton now before he signs for Ireland in the post Trapp era and wins them the 2018 world cup.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
jol assistant manager
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
di canio wld hit the lol and edl quota, right?
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
Redknapp told the BBC News Channel that it would not be right to think about the England job."I've never thought about it (the England job). They (the FA) will make whatever decision they want to make and hopefully be right for the country."
= "how about i keep my tottenham job, refuse the england job but will often be found being a guest at england's training sessions and have a seat during the england games, unpaid, of course, btw I love my cat to bits"
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://jobs.brandrepublic.com/job/465007/england-football-manager-london-wembley-travel-required-/
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:15 (twelve years ago) link
Probably waiting for the FA to stick some readies in his dog's bank account, knowhorramean?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
Please note: We are particularly interested in hearing from English Club Managers with exemplary tax histories currently occupying a top 3 Premier League position. Previous applicants need not apply. Get in touch...
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
Psycho's in charge
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
(Gawd's sake, that new BBC football site is an eyesore)
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
<i>http://jobs.brandrepublic.com/job/465007/england-football-manager-london-wembley-travel-required-/</i>
'ow will 'arry 'apply if 'e don't use computers 'or 'email 'or phones 'or car windows?
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
'oops.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link
pearce/gnev/southgate under arry's part-time directorship with becks media rep and terry community liaision
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
"They need to do what Spain have done"
http://www.stressaffect.com/images/laughter-10.jpg
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
barry fry, btw, one more time- a thrice-repugant fourth-generation orrible cunt
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
Eurgh. Sorry but what-the-Germans-have-done or gtfo. Spain have had 1 ridiculously good youth acadamy and 3 or 4 p good ones and is loaded w/ debt so it might just be a one off generation thing and anyone looking at that thinking it is a good idea needs a slap.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
we will continue to do what the English have done i.e. fuck all
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:40 (twelve years ago) link
Well yes. Still don't understand why a team like Wolves aren't looking at Dortmund or Gladbach and seeing a no-brainer freebie of an idea tho.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
Capello's reaction after reading Phil McNulty's latest blog entry.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58395000/jpg/_58395692_58395691.jpg
― kid steel (cajunsunday), Thursday, 9 February 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
xp
we had another thread pondering the grim inertia of english football but my head hurts too much to think about why any more. greed + xenophobia + innate conservatism + the remnants of the class system + football "culture" plus god knows what else
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
Having the "best league in the world"?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
If it ain't broke etc!
symptom more than cause imo but
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
this is like when the Roman Empire had the best arenas in the world and then suddenly their army was shit
Winning the World Cup with Alan Ball, Nobby Stiles + Jack Charlton in the same side didn't help
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
'suddenly'
don't really care about international success all that muchactually rather like things the way they are
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
When I heard this my first reaction was to recall that slogan from the Czechs as the tanks marched into Prague: 'Wake up Lenin they've all gone mad'. Associaton/memory blah.
Hilarious if arry was convincted, but actually that trial shd help, imagine the mud that would've been slung at him as the Euros approached. He effectively passed his interview during the trial.
Rafa is a better choice.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
for what?
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
We know how this ends anyway: Redknapp leads England to semi-final defeat to German on penalties -> WC qualifying starts well -> Mail on Sunday expose on massive raft of previously unknown Redknapp bungs -> Redknapp sacked -> England fail to qualify for 2014 World Cup under new manager Roy Hodgson after conceding a heartbreaking late equaliser against Greece.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
... scored by Georgios Samaras
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
don't really care about international success all that much
i cd care less really and yet
there's something so maddening about the endless misadministration and underachieving celebs and baying jingoism that part of me wd just like to see people of good will create a national football ethos to be proud of, just once.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't we had 10 years of 'why the shit don't we just let Trevor Brooking have free reign? we keep thinking everything he says sounds sensible and achievable and always do the complete fucking opposite in an incompetent manner.'
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
eh, must be the money
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
is there money in being incompetent fools? i bet england shirt sales have drooped like crazy post-sven, for example.
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
England Memorabilia is so over:
1) The £1 shops are full of 2010 World Cup souvenir flags, t-shirts, etc
2) Who would buy a full-price 2014 world cup one, when they have seen all that?
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
surely it is pardew's time? is he can do okay at newcastlol then pretty sure england can absolutely rake everybody under him
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
I think we can all agree that Pardew would be a huge fucking disaster, right?
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
Why don't they get Ricky Tomlinson? At least we'd all 'ave a laff'...
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Havin' laffs was actually forwarded by Neil Warnock as a priamry reason for the FA to give the job to Redknapp - that and his ability to speak, if not quite write, English
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Alan Pardew is the new Steve Bruce, he's a limited manager benefiting from an excellent talent scout.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
hey guys pardew was joeks it's almost friday!
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
Chu for England
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost Good Friday
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
Never mind the new Steve Bruce, England need the old Steve Bruce.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
In 1988?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
there's something so maddening about the endless misadministration and underachieving celebs and baying jingoism that part of me wd just like to see people of good will create a national football ethos to be proud of, just once. i do, i really do.
Fixed.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
not really, i wasn't talking about success there and i guess my chagrin is more related to that feeling you get when you've got a knotted string and you feel compelled to untie it - abstract mental tidiness of some sort.
on a strictly pleasurable level the hapless travails of the national side wd take a lot of beating.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
or perhaps i'm thinking that a national side i'd want to support wd have to change in many ways, and "success" is the least of those ways
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously I used to hate England - but as things are, for a sheer entertainment roller-coaster ride they cannot be beaten. Well maybe by France, there's a national side with everything. Argentina too, that's your triumvirate.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously I used to hate England - but as things are, for a sheer entertainment roller-coaster ride they cannot be beaten
can i get this on a tshirt pls
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
* off-pitch only
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Actually, even that's unfair - up there among last night's oh so many lols was Rob Green's howler on a loop on the BBC rolling news.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
love watching England
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes gruelling
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
motherfucker is that a famine reference
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
hear that NN he made a famine reference this is incredible
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
chips on your shoulder?
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
goddamit and the mods all busy too
love watching english people who love football convince themselves they don't care about england or hate england, when i have the sinking suspicion their eyes would well with big, st george cross shaped tears if arry won the world cup.
― mizzell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
They are one of the most boring teams, football wise, in world football
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
ah yeah
i mean, i sometimes read the real-time updates from the thread during the germany game in the WC
suuuure you guys don't care
suuuuure
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Hardly ever play any football worth watching. They're like a good version of Norway.
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
love watching english people who love football convince themselves they don't care about england or hate england
if you say so
but seriously, i love football more than is healthy and my relationship with the england team is only ever gonna be as complicated as my relationship to the english nation. well, maybe fractionally less complicated.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
the english football team changes personnel every 4-7 years tbf
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
i mean clearly i spend time thinking about "the england football team" but i'm pretty fucking certain i'm not just hanging on for an excuse to paint a red cross on my face and punch the nearest german
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
and, once again, i love my club...the national team is this weird tragi-comic distraction mainly worshiped by southerners afaict
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol at NV in role of prime apologist
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but they don't change much
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
when, if ever, did you stop caring about the English football team?
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
I've never stopped caring, I love watching them lose tbh
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
:D
i think about this shit quite a lot when tournaments roll round - in some sense, from childhood, england is "my" team, but def not my team in the way Wolves is. and the social history and politics of England is fascinating i think. but i am certain there isn't some diehard nationalist lurking away in the middle of me underneath onion-skins of liberal guilt or whatever
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
England are fun, apart from to watch obv, and I almost always enjoy their exit from a tournament. Although against that I loved loved loved the last Euros and coincidentally England weren't even there. The only enjoyable aspect of England one day winning the World Cup would purely to be to see what the country would be like the next day after everyone (well the 35% of people who vaguely give a shit about football) loses their collective minds.
― pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
Bit like me and the Scotland rugby team, fuck 'em for the most part (unless they're playing England) (xp)
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
can't wait til Ireland meet England in the Euros. Then we'll see the true face of ILF
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
posts, flags
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
France 2-1 England, June 13, 2004
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
harsh, england were p good that match
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i was feeling the fear that day
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
England - Ireland is always a footballing treat tbf
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
why can't i find a pic of that little fecker crying at the Landsdowne game?
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
They spent a good deal of that game defending their lead, unsuccessfully as it turned out. I watched it w/an Irish friend (who was a good deal more pro-England than I was, oddly) and I told him I didn't mind who won, but by the end I was laughing at Englandd and happy for France.
Take no offence Angliski, I laughed at France when Senegal beat them in 2002.
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
Who the fuck is richard williams and why is his puke festering on the pages of my national newspaper― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:57 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:57 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
glad someone else noticed. i did read it right didn't i?
'if foreign manager had learned more of our language and customs this wouldn't have happened (and england would be a better football team)'
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
it was a disgusting and stupid piece, as concentrated in its idiocy as anything i've seen/read outside of fry and warnock on SSN
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHt1-GKwxYY
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
Even by the bonkers standards of NMA TV that was quite something.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
Terry Venables for England!! Come on give El Tel th job!
― jel --, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Or maybe Waddle and Hoddle.
― jel --, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
The NMA John Terry is perfect:
http://i.imgur.com/WqoVY.png
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
Chuffing marvellous
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
john terry visits the US Marineshttp://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58417000/jpg/_58417129_58417007.jpg
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
Because, apparently, the English are incapable of being smart enough to understand tactics and need to play under Hal V, w/his leadership skills. Apparently you are now a colony of the kind of Disney ethos that America adores, only at least, we do it way better than you.
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
Fabio Capello should have been removed as England manager following the 2010 World Cup, according to Football Association councillor Peter Coates.Capello, whose side were defeated in the second round in South Africa, resigned on Wednesday.Coates told BBC Sport: "We had a terrible World Cup, he was responsible for that and he should have gone then."The Stoke City chairman also criticised Capello for "never having bothered" to fully learn English.Use accessible player and disable flyout menusFormer Real Madrid and AC Milan manager Capello took charge of England in 2008, but after a successful World Cup qualifying campaign, his side were beaten 4-1 by Germany in the last 16 of the tournament.The Italian also led England to qualification for the European Championship in Poland and Ukraine before resigning, but Coates feels that Capello's tenure was a failure."I don't see what we've gained under his term as manager," said Coates, who also sits on the FA's international committee."When they talk about qualifying for these competitions, I just can't go along with that. If we can't qualify for major tournaments, we are failing abysmally because we're seeded to get through. It should be a matter of course."I wouldn't give any manager great praise for achieving something that should be routine."You have to get into the last four [of major tournaments], if you've done that, you've done a good job."Capello's resignation followed the FA's decision to strip John Terry of the England captaincy after he was charged with racially abusing Anton Ferdinand, claims the Chelsea defender denies. Coates agreed with the FA's actions and feels Capello could have used the situation to engineer his exit."It was very difficult decision for the FA, and I think they got it right," he said."They should have had Capello as part of the discussion, that's what would normally happen at a football club."But the cynic in me says he might have manipulated this. He might have decided that was his opportunity to get out and he's taken it."England Under-21s manager Stuart Pearce will take charge of the senior side for the friendly against the Netherlands, with the FA now beginning the search for Capello's permanent successor.Coates says the FA needs to have learnt from Capello's reign, and joins the list of those calling for Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp to be appointed England manager."I hope lessons have been learnt because I would never have a manager who couldn't speak English. Capello never bothered to get himself proficient in the language, even though he said he would."I would never have a manager who had not had exposure to the English game. It has been proved that it doesn't work."I think the stand-out candidate is Harry Redknapp, every man and his dog knows that. He would be a good choice in my view and if a deal can be done I'm sure he'll get the job."Obviously it's complicated because he's got a big job at Spurs, but I'm sure he'd want the England job and it would be perfect for him."They sometimes ask you what you [the international commitee] think, but they know my views. It's their decision, and I hope they get it right."
Capello, whose side were defeated in the second round in South Africa, resigned on Wednesday.
Coates told BBC Sport: "We had a terrible World Cup, he was responsible for that and he should have gone then."
The Stoke City chairman also criticised Capello for "never having bothered" to fully learn English.Use accessible player and disable flyout menus
Former Real Madrid and AC Milan manager Capello took charge of England in 2008, but after a successful World Cup qualifying campaign, his side were beaten 4-1 by Germany in the last 16 of the tournament.
The Italian also led England to qualification for the European Championship in Poland and Ukraine before resigning, but Coates feels that Capello's tenure was a failure.
"I don't see what we've gained under his term as manager," said Coates, who also sits on the FA's international committee.
"When they talk about qualifying for these competitions, I just can't go along with that. If we can't qualify for major tournaments, we are failing abysmally because we're seeded to get through. It should be a matter of course.
"I wouldn't give any manager great praise for achieving something that should be routine.
"You have to get into the last four [of major tournaments], if you've done that, you've done a good job."
Capello's resignation followed the FA's decision to strip John Terry of the England captaincy after he was charged with racially abusing Anton Ferdinand, claims the Chelsea defender denies.
Coates agreed with the FA's actions and feels Capello could have used the situation to engineer his exit.
"It was very difficult decision for the FA, and I think they got it right," he said.
"They should have had Capello as part of the discussion, that's what would normally happen at a football club.
"But the cynic in me says he might have manipulated this. He might have decided that was his opportunity to get out and he's taken it."
England Under-21s manager Stuart Pearce will take charge of the senior side for the friendly against the Netherlands, with the FA now beginning the search for Capello's permanent successor.
Coates says the FA needs to have learnt from Capello's reign, and joins the list of those calling for Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp to be appointed England manager.
"I hope lessons have been learnt because I would never have a manager who couldn't speak English. Capello never bothered to get himself proficient in the language, even though he said he would.
"I would never have a manager who had not had exposure to the English game. It has been proved that it doesn't work.
"I think the stand-out candidate is Harry Redknapp, every man and his dog knows that. He would be a good choice in my view and if a deal can be done I'm sure he'll get the job.
"Obviously it's complicated because he's got a big job at Spurs, but I'm sure he'd want the England job and it would be perfect for him.
"They sometimes ask you what you [the international commitee] think, but they know my views. It's their decision, and I hope they get it right."
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Harry Redknapp, every man and his dog
― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
his incredibly rich dog
― pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
why doesn't it surprise me that someone from Stoke would say "I hope lessons have been learnt because I would never have a manager who couldn't speak English. Capello never bothered to get himself proficient in the language, even though he said he would.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of agree that a manager should be able to communication with his players.
― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
Although "I will kill you Theo" seems fairly fluent to me.
to string these 3 thoughts together diplays an idiocy that far outshines not being able to spell
― mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
the fa got it rightactually they messed it upi still think that foreign chap is sneaky and unworthy
― mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think those sentences contradict each other.1 = I think they made the right decision2 = but they way they went about making the decision wasn't ideal and offended the manager3 = but then he might just have been looking for the chance to take offence so he could get out
― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
uh ohhttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/10/article-0-11ABCA8D000005DC-707_468x365.jpg
― mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
wut
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
This threw me for a second
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
same as
if capello's english was as poor as is being suggested, then that's a valid criticism imo.
i just doubt it
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
btwhttp://www.whoateallthepies.tv/chelsea/109807/former-chelsea-youth-players-candid-account-reveals-another-less-gimpish-side-to-john-terry.html
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
btw
With reference to this mornings mails from Martin's email this morning about John Terry actually being a nice guy, I would like to draw everybodys attention to a incident that occured when I was 13 or 14. I played to a relatively decent standard back then and played for my district side against teams all over the South-East. One of our biggest rivals was Barking & Dagenham who sported among others, Bobby Zamora, Paul Konchesky and the mighty JT (in a CM role) back then. One of my teammates was good mates with Terry and they played for the same sunday league side as well
I remember one summers day my mate bringing JT up to the local tennis club where I was also a member. Bear in mind that at this stage he was a nobody.I think he was on the books of Chelsea but then so were a number of other guys I knew
So there we are, all having a few sets of tennis when JT decides to take his t-shirt off. Being a private members tennis club, some of the old boys watching went mad and proceeded to ask / tell him that we didn't do that here, and that there were standards that had to be adhered to
JT, being such a nice guy even then, turned round, looked the guys up and down and told them "to F**k off and die". He then picked up the nearest tennis ball and smashed it as hard as he could. Luckily he was rubbish at tennis so he missed by a mile but even as we walked off the court he was swearing at them and saying he'd be back to "sort them out."Paul Higgins, Guernsey
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
superb
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
he's a complicated man
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
the inner life of john terry
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
It's probably a bit like John Malkovich's
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
directed by shane meadows
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
haha did not know this about hiddinkIn February 2007 Hiddink was given a six-month suspended jail sentence and fined €45,000 after being found guilty of tax fraud by a Dutch court. Prosecutors had demanded a ten-month prison sentence for Hiddink, who was accused of evading €1.4 million in Dutch taxes by claiming to be a resident of Belgium from 2002 to 2003. The Dutch Tax Intelligence and Detection Service claimed that he hadn't spent enough nights at his Belgian house which he had stated was his primary address. Hiddink denied this accusation.
― mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Yup. Ever since he vowed to never pay Dutch taxes again and stay away (or at least live abroad enough nights). It was a bit petty though, prosecution made a whole slew of errors.
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
o yeah, that staying away part sounds familiar.
― mizzell, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
...Hiddink, who was accused of evading €1.4 million in Dutch taxes by claiming to be a resident of Belgium from 2002 to 2003.
I somehow misread this as "by claiming to be President of Belgium"
― Monkee Trial (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
West Bromwich Albion have given the FA leave to speak to Roy Hodgson about the vacant England manager job, the FA says
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
where are the drudge sirens?
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Matt DC should edit them in
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
good appointment, statesmanlike imo.
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
I think Roy deserves his own disastrous two years thread. Fab's old news.
― we are not bemused (onimo), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link
i'll get that
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:25 (eleven years ago) link
i went to this thread an hour ago to post 'lol' and before i hit submit i thought 'what am i doin this for' and i didn't post and i just read he's now manager of russia.
Weird.
― starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link
probably because u were dimly and unconsciously aware of the capello to russia chatter which has been around for weeks
― nakhchivan, Monday, 16 July 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah arsh confirmed it a couple days ago
― Yeah and I ~obstruction~ you/ya fucking blind cunt (pause) fucking k (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link