Huckabee to GQ: Gay Marriage Will End Civilization

He refused to back away from his "isolate the HIV+" statements. Ryan White's mother wants a piece of his ear.

He makes "power of attorney" sound so fucking hot!

there has never been a civilization that has survived

x-post -- Pounder of ass-tourney

There’s never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived.

Fixed.

There’s never been civilization

Best?

never

There’s never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived.

I'm sorry, Rev Huckabee, but can you back that up with any relevant facts whatsoever?

I hate Huckabees.

I get the sense that what he REALLY wants to say is that civilizations were destroyed BECAUSE they "changed" the definition of marriage - problem is there's no facts that back that up either.

What civilizations changed the def'n of marriage, anyways?

there are all kinds of polygamous "civilizations" that have survived to the present day, for one thing (Mormons, Islam, etc.)

These types really need to stay in church and stop running for public office. I just wrote the understatement of the year.

I thought he meant something like "Greek civ", but anyways.

So there are no Mormons and no Islam today?

What civilizations changed the def'n of marriage, anyways?

Well, pretty much ALL of them, if you count by his definition of "marriage" and all its attendent expectations.

obviously he is thinking of Sodom & Gommorrah, but even so, he's still wrong.

Greece and Rome were all about the man-boy love but legally they still hewed to pretty trad-Western monogomous marriage, afaik.

this, of course, does not help Huckabee's case at all

Greeks may have changed the def'n of love, but not marriage.

Eeeexcept for the part where you married women much your junior/inferior and then confined them to the house for years and years and took all their money and property and their fertility and decided whether the children they gave birth to should live or not. Or maybe he'd like that.

the thing is I don't think there's any civilization to-date that legally sanctioned same-sex marriage prior to the 20th century, so basically wtf is he on about

The only part that really matters to Suckabee is whether marriage means same-polarity, not whether men can have a bazillion wives they treat like shit, obv.

is this essentially "gayness will decimate the human race" ?

Suckabee lolz

cos that's my favourite "he darkly hinted" trope ever

For fuck's sake why didn't the chickenshit reporter challenge him -- cuz his editor worried about a "balanced" article?

i mean, do conservatives think all men are secretly disgusted by sexing with the ladies and are just waiting with desperation for the second it becomes universally acceptable to chat up their buddy?

...

I love that a mostly non-breeding minority of homosexuals on an increasingly over-populated planet is what will spell the end of humankind. If this is really the fruit of his capacity for reason, I don't him anywhere near the levers of power.

"I love that a mostly non-breeding minority of homosexuals on an increasingly over-populated planet is what will spell the end of humankind."

is what i'm saying. dunno if MH is saying this but, this is the line of thinking among many people, isn't it?

it spelt the end of ted haggard's career

I dunno about "many" - they may be a majority at the moment but as noted, that majority is getting old and dying.

Mike Huckabee: No Homo

wasn't the sin of Sodom "inhospitality"?

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xp
so much potential there

My problem with this line of thinking is that marriage, as yet unredefined, is finding it increasingly hard to keep population falling in developed countries already. I knew when they allowed divorce and decriminalized cohabitation we were all going to be fucked.

I don't think overpopulation is really an issue, its more one of resource organization and allocation but whatevs, that's a different thread

Because it [civil unions] really is a precursor toward marriage. Once the government says this relationship is in essence similar to or equal to a marriage—we’re not going to call it that, but that’s what it is—and you grant it the same basic rights as marriage, then you’ve effectively done it.

This is reprehensible.

gay marriage will only lead to the GAYEST KIDS EVER

As a follow-up, I also think gay people should be able to get married, but Huckabee's line of reasoning on civil unions falls somewhere between evil and just indefensible (Why is it not okay for a gay couple to have a civil union that allow one to visit their partner in a nursing home but it is okay for a gay couple to navigate around those restrictions via a power of attorney?; That's very thin reasoning if you're worried -- as Huckabee apparently is -- about protecting the "fabric of society" from homosexuals).

Because at least with power of attorney, there's a possibility of having a conservative, traditionalist (i.e. bigoted) judge overturn/overrule a nursing home visit. It gives more hope to maintaining the status quo than a law granting civil unions would; if such things are decided on a case-by-case basis in the courts, then at least some of them will swing in Huckabee's favor.

how does power of attorney work in this case, Daniel? My dad just got it to handle my grandmother's affairs, but I don't understand the intricacies.

the 'power of attorney' option can really only provide for family visitation / medical / end of life issues, but doesn't provide for the tax and other shared benefits (spousal health insurance, e.g.) that go along with marriage.

Alfred: There are many different uses for a power of attorney ("POA"). It's my understanding that they're used in this context most often when someone can't act on their own behalf; the POA transfers the right to act to someone who is in a better position to take action and make decisions (e.g., they suffer from dementia and can no longer handle their own financial affairs). But POA's aren't used as "backstage passes" in the way Huckabee implies.

To be fair, this isn't my area of the law. Someone else here may know more.

Mike Huckabee: No Homo

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:05 PM

lol

For fuck's sake why didn't the chickenshit reporter challenge him -- cuz his editor worried about a "balanced" article?

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

otm

pathetic

i hardly think GQ is a left leaning publication :/

wasn't the sin of Sodom "inhospitality"?

-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:05 PM

Yeah. As I recall the Angels showed up in Sodom and hung out at Lot's place. Everybody in Sodom was like "let us see (rape?) these angels, guy," and he said "rape my daughters instead, they're virgins!"

And then God killed everybody in Sodom except for Lot & his daughters, either because they were gay or because they wanted to "know" the angels, depending on who you ask.

Angels R HOTTTTT

how does Suckabee feel about man-on-angel sex

has there ever been a metal band called Angelrape?

(fwiw Jewish interpretations of Sodom & Gomorrah don't have this preoccupation with homosexuality - its more to do with the city generally being full of assholes)

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ew

I'd be okay with God smiting Meg Ryan.

Nic Cage too.

I Fart Fuckabees

I love people who don't know the true roots of marriage..aka, that it was oft a practice for economic purposes and not romantic purposes!

and that it didn't originate in the church, but ok he didn't say anything about that in the quote above.

flambee the fucker

I Fart Fuckabees

New campaign slogan? Alliteration rules.

Huckabee=pencil dick

lol good one

Huck sure loves his fried chicken.

So much for his health kick.

In related news, Chic-Fil-A Debuts New Homophobic Sandwich

My first and only trip to this joint last year resulted in my first bout of nausea in years. Christianism and bugger gastric juices are a volatile mix.

I love Chik Fil A and am bummed that I am going to have to stop eating there.

Yeah nice try there:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558300_509428692416526_72528055_n.jpg

Wait that's an actual outright lie, right?

Well, yes. But I'm sure they would object to anyone putting anything into something else's holes.

unsafe because they promote homosexuality

I guess the 9th Commandment is no longer operative so long as Gays Are Icky.

All of the people who are bummed about Chick-Fil-A: did they think this was a progressive organization?

This reminds me of when I sadly could no longer get the tofu sandwich at Your Black Muslim Bakery because they murdered a journalist.

also people who are bummed about chick-fil-a: it's just shitty fried chicken, you can get pretty much the same thing at mcdonald's or popeyes or kfc without directly funding a publicly homophobic company

Hooray for tribalism

i dunno n/a their (admittedly msg-laden) grilled chicken is actually quite tasty, though not _so_ tasty that i'll regret not giving them any of my money.

we had a Chik-fil-A on campus my senior year, it was kind of weird

also we used to call it "Chik-A-Fil" </bestandbrightest>

never would have thought the company that promotes itself with cows pleading for their lives in manson-like scribbles would be pushing their morality on people

but it makes sense... if they are fundies and believe in creation, they are apt to think animals share little w/ humans and were put here for our benefit/consumption.

the thing is i bet over 50% of private businesses in the bible belt contribute to all kinds of nasty shit. i guess it's good to have a high-profile business to target.

did those private businesses donate $2 million to all kinds of nasty shit in one year?

n/a, i'm not saying we shouldn't boycott chik-fil-a, i'm just saying this stuff is probably damned pervasive.

(and collectively i imagine lots of small businesses making donations probably add up to more than $2 million)

well of course it is but there's a reason why people are targeting chic-fil-a other than it being "high profile." you're right that lots of companies are doing gross stuff secretly but chic-fil-a is doing it publicly, making them the face of this type of funding, so it makes sense to target them specifically

n/a we're in complete agreement here.

also people who are bummed about chick-fil-a: it's just shitty fried chicken, you can get pretty much the same thing at mcdonald's or popeyes or kfc without directly funding a publicly homophobic company

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:34 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

disagree

I think Popeyes is better tbh

Canadian coworker weighs in (he sent this to me with no context whatsoever an hour after I shared the Huckabees/Goats picture floating around FB):

I was in Pittsburgh last week and ate at this place. Never heard of it before,but seemed interesting. Can't believe they are so homophobic and not afraid to let the world know it. Food was alright nothing special.

just momentarily back to Huckabee, this guy is the worst, the gall of calling complaints against this place 'bigotry', i just need to know what green light in the guy's mind makes driving past the obvious logical roadblock there okay

Popeye's IS better but only one in town.

sucks that there's such a paucity of fried chicken in the USA that people are forced to eat at chic-fil-a

"bigotry" is when anyone disagrees w/ you and let's you know it, that's the logic.

Bill, just about every grocery store makes its own fried chicken.

there is certainly prejudice at play in the decision to boycott an establishment whose founder openly supports discriminatory measures, but it's a form of prejudice that I am more than happy to indulge in; I think being prejudiced against people who want to keep others from having equal rights is a moral imperative

Bill, just about every grocery store makes its own fried chicken.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I said I am bummed, not suicidal. Also, last I checked Publix doesnt have a drive thru.

sucks that there's such a paucity of fried chicken in the USA that people are forced to eat at chic-fil-a

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:57 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are truly an idiot.

Sweet -- you got a Publix nearby. Their chicken rules.

Also, last I checked Publix doesnt have a drive thru.

there's on in Florida: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/woman-76-crashes-car-into-florida-market-injures-10/ (note: accompanying video is fucking terrifying)

It does, now that I would really be upset about!

xpost

also why is this news re. chik-fil-a just breaking these past few weeks? somehow i knew about their donations years ago...

I've never been to Chik-Fil-A (there weren't any where I lived when I still ate meat), so I don't know how good the food is -- but the company's overt Christianity (closed on the Sabbath!) weirded me out even before the anti-gay brouhaha.

also why is this news re. chik-fil-a just breaking these past few weeks? somehow i knew about their donations years ago...

B/c of the Muppets

amateurist people have known about the donations for years but it's in the news because of this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a-president-anti-gay_n_1680984.html

sorry for huffington post

also why is this news re. chik-fil-a just breaking these past few weeks? somehow i knew about their donations years ago...

because their CEO recently did an interview where he was all "TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE IS THE ONLY MARRIAGE, YAY" and thanks to the magic of SEO everyone with a tumblr read it

xp: or what n/a said

Not that there's a Chik-Fil-A in NYC, or maybe NYU had one in one of its cafeterias for like a second? That can't have lasted long or ended well, under the circs? But yeah, their religiousity was always gross to me.

I knew nothing about their religiosity, I was offended by their spelling

n/a, you can huff ton post any time you like.

the employees chirp "Have a blessed day!" as they hand over your waffle fries

can you punch them

not before they hand over their lemonade, the only one of their shitty products I can consume.

I don't remember them ever saying "Have a blessed day!" when they were on campus but I only went there maybe 3 times

also if they were to say that on campus, it's likely they would burst into flames

of course the guy could have said "have a messed-up day" because whenever I approach the counter I mince.

Ive never heard any of the Chik Fil A counterpeople say that at the ones around here.

the temptation to respond with "Hail Satan!" would be overwhelming and I'm almost 40

I'm not sure if comparing them to fried chicken places is valid because Chik-fil-a is almost all chicken patties/nuggets/strips. It's mostly finger food.

yeah, i've never heard that. don't blame the employees, people!

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also why is this news re. chik-fil-a just breaking these past few weeks? somehow i knew about their donations years ago...

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:13 PM

Yeah, this is kind of odd. I thought their conservative/fundie/homophobe bona fides were universally known. I've been avoiding giving them my money for at least a decade, since I heard about them donating to Eagle Forum and the AFA and such.

CEO of Popeyes has been trying to get Gaga on the phone all day.

This reminds me of when I sadly could no longer get the tofu sandwich at Your Black Muslim Bakery because they murdered a journalist.

― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's amazing

that whole story is so sad and stupid

It really was a great tofu sandwich

holy hell, I thought you guys were joking

me too!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Ybmblogo.png

It is now officially 1000x funnier than when I thought it was a joke.

also people who are bummed about chick-fil-a: it's just shitty fried chicken, you can get pretty much the same thing at mcdonald's or popeyes or kfc without directly funding a publicly homophobic company

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:34 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not defending chick-fil-a as a company but their batter's got a unique flavor compared to most of those chains.

the employees chirp "Have a blessed day!" as they hand over your waffle fries

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this has literally never happened to me at a chick-fil-a. i also worked at a chick-fil-a for a few weeks right before graduating high school. i imagine it might be different for store managers or franchise owners, but there was zero religious pressure put on me or any employees that i could see. in any case, fuck 'em.

the your black muslim bakery is less "funny" than "sordid and tragic"

this has literally never happened to me at a chick-fil-a.

I've been in only one CAF in my life so this might be the policy at the store located in the secular heart of a diseased county, i.e. a public university in Miami-Dade.

lol

http://gizmodo.com/5928926/chick+fil+a-got-caught-pretending-to-be-a-fake-teenage-girl-on-facebook

the your black muslim bakery is less "funny" than "sordid and tragic"

yeah not really seein the lolz personally

for reference

the employees chirp "Have a blessed day!" as they hand over your waffle fries

wtf seriously

I've never been in one but now I wanna go by a lemonade just to tell them hail Satan prince of all flesh

I would jump at the register bellowing THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU

Ummmm, they dont say that.

I stopped eating Popeye's because of the "Annie the Chicken Queen" commercials, and now this. I need to eat less fried food though so I guess overall it's a plus.

also the only times Chick-Fil-A employees have said stuff like "have a blessed day!" to me were in semi-rural regions where a Wendy's or Burger King employee would have said the same thing. I've never been too weirded out by the closed on Sunday thing. That's not an offensive practice imo.

i totally thought alfred was joking about 'have a blessed day'

the only chik-fil-a i've ever been to was on my old campus, where the employees were obv just stressed-out students trying to move the line along as fast as possible -- so yeah, never got to hear 'have a blessed day.'

also the only times Chick-Fil-A employees have said stuff like "have a blessed day!" to me were in semi-rural regions where a Wendy's or Burger King employee would have said the same thing.

Yeah, I can think of at least six businesses in my town where I'll hear that at checkout.

Why was Your Black Muslim bakery named that? Apologies if I'm coming off as thick. Seems a bad race PR move if you're also a hitman?

Bey named the business Your Black Muslim Bakery on the personal recommendation of his spiritual guide, Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad. In 1971, Bey moved the bakery to Oakland.[1] By 1974 it was the "largest Bay Area bakery specializing exclusively in natural food products", with over 6,000 loaves of bread and over 300 cakes per week sold at 150 stores.

Sorry, missed the wiki link. Thanks!

xp Or "Heaven-O!", which actually has a serious pressure group behind it

"serious pressure group"

Geocities lives on

come on guys let's just sit back and laugh at the bigger and bigger PR hole they are digging for themselves

'serious' and 'influential' maybe not in the hemisphere, much less same zip code with that one. xposts

bouncin around my fb feed...
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can't believe the mayor is won't allow chick fil-a in Boston JUST because he doesn't like their chicken

xp I meant that they take themselves and a ridiculous idea like that seriously.

I believe he said he personally doesn't like their company. lol @ them pretending he has any legal standing for not allowing them there.

Christians Say Chick-fil-A Under Siege By Militant Gays // FOX News

What a crazy world.

xp yeah how does that work exactly? i think he can block some public subsidies? iirc he was banging heads w/ wal-mart a while back and whatever he did there was effective. but i don't think he can just like push a button and SHUT IT DOWN

But that isn’t cutting the mustard with Menino. He said he plans to fire off a letter to the company’s Atlanta headquarters “telling them my feelings on the matter.”

“If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies,” he warned

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061147182&srvc=home&position=emailed

there are tons of licensing/zoning/permitting things city officials can do to keep franchises out

a ha

lmao at militant gays, they have taken up arms and have allied with the cows, they are here for your bibles

I gotta say that unless the restaurant is actually discriminating against GLBT folks as customers, or in hiring -- and from what I've seen there's no evidence that it is -- what these city officials are doing is kinda NAGL. Punishing a business for who/what it supports politically is treading on dangerous ground.

I agree. I still won't eat their shitty chicken sandwiches though.

can you expand a little, phil? i think that's interesting but i can't quite find a good analogue for the dangerous ground. i feel like it depends what 'punishing' means; like either action - respecting a company's right to bigotry (or whatever else), or publicly lending your voice to speak against a company - has baggage, but at least the latter has a positive effect, too.

there's something else that i can't quite put my finger on, too, about how automatically separating the opinions of a company from customers' attitudes towards that company is a sad deferral to the stature of corporations, a can't fight city hall thing allowing compartmentalisation that we would be reluctant to accept in other situations. if corporations are people, this one is an asshole, some vocal recognition of that is powerful i think?

? cities do this kind of thing all the time. if they don't like a business, they have the power to run it out of town, it isn't very complicated.

coworker of mine is a city councilmember for a bay area city and was very involved in keeping Walmart out - arguments didn't get much more complicated than their policies are shitty and they will harm local businesses (an argument you could make about any franchise, really) and then you throw up all sorts of onerous processes to make it not worth the franchise's time to try and get a permit and then they give up. until the next election cycle anyway lol.

I was gonna say, the only thing really different here is that the policy in question is so repellent that city officials are willing to pull back the curtain and reveal the wizard

In many circumstaces I've conflated support for gay marriage with not giving a damn about homosexuality. The CEO took a position on probably the socological and moral question of our time -- an abhorrent one. But I would find it more disturbing if we learned that the corporation offers no domestic partnership benefits (I haven't checked).

lol "policy" I meant "position"

if we learned that the corporation offers no domestic partnership benefits (I haven't checked).

would be surprised if company offers benefits of any kind to its wage employees.

^^^

this is a fast-food franchise people

benefits are probably a 25% discount off their shitty food

chick-fil-a actually offers kinda crazy benefits, i know many ppl who chick-fil-a paid for their college for example, fwiw they do walk the walk in terms of being fundie xian beyond hating gays, not being open on the sabbath, etc., until recently i actually used their being much better arguably more progressive employers than their competitors as my get out of jail free card for still giving them business despite the knowledge that any examination into their politics would definitely reveal some sickening shit (boycotted them during the terri schiavo endgame though). tbh i'm still not sure it's not an adequate reason - chick-fil-a's influence is certainly greater there than in whatever soon to be lost cause it throws money at. at the same time though fuck 'em and fuck mike huckabee and fuck rick santorum.

don't know what kind of presence they have in 'blue' states but they are HUEG around here and i suspect all this flap is going to do is increase their profits.

Not that my twitter/facebook feeds are representative samples, but when the gay Oreo thing was posted I noticed a lot of people making fun of people for saying they would never eat Oreos again because now Oreos are gay, but then suddenly! many of those same people will never eat Chick Fil A again.

in the short term definitely - this isn't whole foods coming out as conservative - but in the long term this hurts them, not that the cathys care at all, these fuckers live to leave money on the table for the greater glory of the lawd.

interesting old forbes article: The Cult of Chick-fil-A

Danielle Alderson, 30, a Baltimore operator, says some fellow franchisees find that Chick-fil-A butts into its workers' personal lives a bit much. She says she can't hire a good manager who, say, moonlights at a strip club because it would irk the company. "We are watched very closely by Chick-fil-A," she says. "It's very weird."

Chick-fil-A, the corporate parent, has been sued at least 12 times since 1988 on charges of employment discrimination, according to records in U.S. District Courts. Aziz Latif, a former Chick-fil-A restaurant manager in Houston, sued the company in 2002 after Latif, a Muslim, says he was fired a day after he didn't participate in a group prayer to Jesus Christ at a company training program in 2000. The suit was settled on undisclosed terms.

http://images.forbes.com/media/magazines/forbes/2007/0723/Forbes_0723_p080_f1.jpg

fuck rick santorum.

― balls, Thursday, 26 July 2012 00:49 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loved this guy rushing to his local branch as soon as he heard it was bigoted the way other people rush to the buffet when there's a meal deal

schlump, I don't know, it's kinda hard for me to articulate, but it's like . . . I'm sure the mayor of Boston could do through the membership roll of the local Christian Businessmen's Association and find 100 locally owned businesses giving money to the exact same outfits Chick-Fil-A is, is he going to have them shut down? I know, I know, slippery slope, but it just smells a bit to me. Like, all the shit you can flex your political muscle about and you're going to do it over a chicken place and its attitudes about gay marriage? I can't even really explain it.

xxp well, see,there, if there's employment discrimination going on then that's a horse of a different color. As it were.

no, thanks for that, that's what i was after. i think the principle's very true - that meaningful across-the-board improvements would trump visible grandstanding - but it's almost impossible to work out what grandstanding is going to be significant, & what quantity of it will need to happen to effect change; the chronologies of legislation and public attitudes are separate but obviously feed into one another. it's like if you looked through the history of important supreme court decisions & considered them in proportion to the actual cases they discussed, which are p often small in scale or not necessarily entirely representative of a certain issue in microcosm. seeing some picture of the muppets respectfully publicly disagreeing w/these guys, & knowing that, at some slight risk, in cost-benefit terms, of overstepping & alienating, government figures are coming out to stand up for what's right feels good to me. & maybe that's it - feels good - but it's something (& something feels like more and more the older i get?, idk). alfred otm, too, re: benefits.

i think i see more & more noble value in doomed, small-scale holdouts. like individuals boycotting places, as a moral act. what i was saying before, about how automatically separating the opinions of a company from customers' attitudes towards that company is a sad deferral to the stature of corporations is about how you're kinda fucked, now, as a consumer - i don't know that we ever were, but it doesn't feel like we are able to directly influence behaviour by granting or refusing our support - you almost might as well go to the place you hate for all the tangible effect it's going to have, your $3 unlikely to tip a balance in McDonalds staying open or WalMart kicking its employees around any less. someone saying no cheers me up, like as a necessary human outlet for disapproval in spite of its futility.

i often have students whose solutions for major world problems amount to "you should all stop shopping at walmart" and it's like, oh you beautiful well-meaning naive young man....

(they usually recommend that you shop at e.g. target instead to which it's hard to respond with a :facepalm:)

hard NOT to respond

i feel you but i think it's easy to go too far the other way. i stopped shopping at tesco, here, a while ago. i just don't go there: i go to sainsbury's: sainsbury's is probably as bad. but it isn't tesco! tesco doesn't get my money. it doesn't notice & it is doing okay without me. but it is a tax evader, & does not even iirc sell tilda thai jasmine rice, so i do without it, even if i just am out & wanna buy cashew nuts & there is nowhere else around. i am hungry out of righteous spite. as soon as you start on the road of the other place is just as bad you keep in check at least the impulse to not support somewhere. you have to pick your battles, & stores are an interesting choice because the idea of forgoing their auto-selective selling point of convenience is going to impinge on other areas of your life (drive further/more time in car/less time at home/children screaming your name/why must father drive across the border for a kitchen sponge). i guess i am reluctant, even though it is wrong, to totally discard the value of the small moral choice that people are making. even if it makes no quantifiable difference, like it's good practice. i know this is stupid, & worse that it facilitates a whole model of feeling good without doing anything, or feeling good without earning it (there are maybe a lot of contemporary models of this - supermarkets that let you 'donate' to a charity w/a token, petition-signing, who knows). but it can't quite be nothing because it's part of your attitude towards the world & it informs other decisions you make. i'm trying not to exclusively justify all these things as MORAL GRAINS OF SAND, ultimately vindicated by their accumulation. or the mayor guy's righteous stand as awesome because it strikes a blow for equality, necessarily. but that's some of it. it's trying at least. vegetarianism is funny because as soon as you get one foot in it you are at the bottom of a ladder, compromised by your leather shoes & egg-glazed bagels & a million other things. but a little something is better than nothing, & people saying fuck chick-fil-a & through a weird domino effect inflicting Time With Dad on Rick Santorum's poor not even hungry children feels worthwhile to me.

i'm not saying its not worth doing but the idea that it is a real solution is a little naive

sure

I like Target's chicken spinach sausages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2m4qDUycQ4

Rahm Emanuel seems to want to block C-f-A from expanding in Chi, Greenwald calls bullshit.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/26/rahm_emanuels_free_speech_attack/

As my Salon colleague Mary Elizabeth Williams noted when writing about the controversy in Boston: “Aside from the fact that Chick-fil-A is always closed on Sunday, there’s no evidence those beliefs have been institutionalized in any way. There’s no record of refusing service to gay patrons, or unfair hiring practices, or a hostile work environment.”

This has been my reason for staying quiet about it.

Rahm Emanuel seems to want to block C-f-A from expanding in Chi, Greenwald calls bullshit.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/26/rahm_emanuels_free_speech_attack/

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:12 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah greenwald is completely OTM as he is so often.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/07/26/589841/memo-to-the-media-and-the-ambivalent-chick-fil-a-condemns-discriminates-and-campaigns-against-lgbt-people/

that article still doesn't demonstrate any outright employment discrimination.

i mean the CEO can say he's a nazi and hates jews but unless his company is shown to be discriminatory in their policies it remains a free speech issue.

"shown to be discriminatory" = someone actually can claim to have been harmed

I agree that this whole debacle/situation has been light on actual antigay discrimination in CfA policies/treatment of gay customers, but it is worth remembering that they were just sued by a Muslim employee for religious intolerance

which is not to say "obv they hate gay ppl too and are treating them the same way", but rather to say "let's not pretend that this is a welcoming-to-all PR image being fucked up by a dumb corporate head a la Target"

I had my own personal boycott going because there aren't any more of them in my vicinity (lol) and I hate their name (double lol). I think, in academic terms, it is a terrible precedent for city officials to openly single out establishments and proclaim they are unwelcome in their cities due to the CEO's personal beliefs; I also think, in practical terms, that every single city discriminates in this manner all the time, with the discrimination couched in soft terms of "oh you missed a filing" or "oh, that process changed and now the window of opportunity is gone" and it's super fascinating to me that the social climate has swung to the point where you have elected officials openly stating "we don't want people who think like this to do business in our city".

yeah i agree.

idk i'm just cynical about this. doesn't every city contain enterprises run by some fucko? for whom the red carpet was run out? i mean, what's at stake here? really seems like some internet-democrat culture war bandwagoneering by these two big city mayors, immediately struck me as gross.

i mean, fuck chik-fil-a and all, but that's for me to say as a citizen, not for the chief administrator of a city.

djp otm

which is not to say "obv they hate gay ppl too and are treating them the same way", but rather to say "let's not pretend that this is a welcoming-to-all PR image being fucked up by a dumb corporate head a la Target"

i'm not saying that. i'm just saying that until the company is convincted of employment discrimination, rahm emanuel etc.'s attempts to "ban" them from their cities will remain largely a free speech issue. if chik-fil-a gets slammed by an employment discrimination verdict then it's a different matter, potentially.

well... http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html

Chick-fil-A, the corporate parent, has been sued at least 12 times since 1988 on charges of employment discrimination, according to records in U.S. District Courts. Aziz Latif, a former Chick-fil-A restaurant manager in Houston, sued the company in 2002 after Latif, a Muslim, says he was fired a day after he didn't participate in a group prayer to Jesus Christ at a company training program in 2000. The suit was settled on undisclosed terms.

ok. that's reason to question whether they should move into chicago. but rahm emanuel didn't explain his decision on the basis of employment discrimination, but rather on the basis of the CEO's statements about homosexuality.

I am not disagreeing with you in terms of rhetorical strategy

i imagine lots of large companies are sued for employment discrimination, tho. 12 times in 24 years doesn't seem overwhelming, particularly if there's no mention of the company's culpability.

^think so too

I never heard of this joint til the last couple years cuz, u know, New York. Certainly wouldn't eat there now. But...

doesn't every city contain enterprises run by some fucko?

How about pharmaceutical giants? Munitions makers? Telecoms that give to Romney, Focus on the Family etc? If you're going to start banning 'evil' businesses how far do you want to go?

That Forbes thing is likely damning, but if there was no verdict against them in any of those 12 cases they have a fig leaf to employ. "Never Been Convicted."

I tend to be absolutist about the First Amendment so I get instantly discomfited when a person voted into office makes statements about what is permissible speech.

i imagine lots of large companies are sued for employment discrimination, tho. 12 times in 24 years doesn't seem overwhelming, particularly if there's no mention of the company's culpability.

― mookieproof, Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, esp. for a huge chain like this. mcdonald's has probably been sued 100s of times. doesn't mean chik-fil-a doesn't discriminate, but there's not quite a smoking gun.

i mean the antipathy to this company is heartening but i wish people could get as angry at big oil.

most people in this country have more of a need for gas for their cars and plastics for their everything than they do fast food fried chicken from one specific chain

iow, oil companies are actually holding us hostage, CfA is not

most people in this country have more of a need for gas for their cars and plastics for their everything than they do fast food fried chicken from one specific chain

one exception: college students

yeah i know dan, it's just unfortunate isn't it?

it's more than unfortunate but it's also understandable

there's also a relatively simple exit plan for most ppl if they detest CfA and don't want to support them; it's not quite as easy to live in the first world without plastic

It's fantastic.

I dunno, I kinda like this!

http://gawker.com/5929341/openly-gay-internet-celebrity-antoine-dodson-upsets-fans-by-expressing-support-for-chick+fil+a

srsly cannot believe how stupid some of the comments on greenwald's twitter are. it doesn't seem like such a hard thing to get: boycotts, protests, and withdrawing advertisements are all legit and laudable ways to protest a business. using government power to BAN that business isn't legit or laudable.

I think he's getting more trolls than usual

one exception: college students

ha, this is the fucking truth. in my experience, chik-fil-a is always, always the most popular option in a campus food court where it is available.

I dunno how to post tweets but

Edwin Lee ‏@mayoredlee

Closest #ChickFilA to San Francisco is 40 miles away & I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer.

the sad thing is i haven't been to chik-fil-a since graduating and every single fucking time i've seen it mentioned in the last week i've felt the overwhelming urge to go there

you're in good company. We can join our pals at The Corner.

shakey how do you feel about chris daly

why would chik-fil-a want to serve a den of iniquity like san francisco anyhow?

sinners have money

ha, this is the fucking truth. in my experience, chik-fil-a is always, always the most popular option in a campus food court where it is available.

― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is what i like about it. it's stellar hangover food.

why would chik-fil-a want to serve a den of iniquity like san francisco anyhow?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, chik fil a is based in atlanta, which isnt exactly the capital of upstanding behavior.

Also, lots of gays here.

Mayor Menino of Boston steps down from his grandstand:

http://bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1061148712

he's basically been doing that all week; yesterday the local news was buzzing with clips of him going "I don't know that I can legally keep them out but it's my opinion they shouldn't be here. Part of my job is to give my opinion; that is why I'm mayor. If I didn't give my opinion, if I didn't say anything when people asked, 'Mayor, what do you think of this issue?' I wouldn't be doing my job."

Uh.

Seriously, UH.

http://www.ajc.com/business/chick-fil-a-public-1486023.html

omg at dude dying

surely the hand of the Lord at work lol

You just know that places like the Corner are going to run "Liberal Hate Murdered Chick-fil-A PR Man" stories.

That's cause God is a commie long-haired hippie. Um, I guess.

Maybe God is trying to tell them something

xp: damn you Ned

scrolled past ned's link in fb real fast and O_O'd when i misread the name of the dead CfA dude!

Some more on Perry, actually:

http://www.hillcrestcoc.net/perry.htm

http://www.theloveliestvillage.org/profiles/blogs/having-a-truett-cathy

Though I can't quite get over this from the second link about the company founder:

"Although Cathy has had some bad ideas, his commitment to the Lord has always kept him grounded. At the beginning of his fast-food career, he opened a second restaurant that went up in flames. He used this accident to reassess his financial status and the Lord’s plan and invent the chicken sandwich."

this dude is the Puff Daddy of fast food

Those sentences are worthy of Evelyn Waugh.

Correct on both counts.

RIP D4n P3rry :(

it's realy sad, I was a spokesman

I wonder which Perry kin is your favorite:

Don
Vic
Rick
Katy

you're forgetting the best ones!

http://halftimeadjustment.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/steve-perry-two.gif

Maybe this should be taken to a poll.

also don't forget

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7425GT9YsiM/0.jpg

i love chik-fil-a claims to have "invented the chicken sandwich" in 1972 against a wall of evidence that demonstrates that chicken sandwiches had been in existence much much much earlier than that.

i think that violates one of the commandments, but i can't be bothered to check which one.

thou shalt not chickenbrag

I know Jack Nicholson got in trouble over a chicken salad sandwich in '70

did he beat it with a golf club

Chik-fil-a has very specific ideas about what is and is not acceptable to hold between your knees.

you go girl!

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603841_10151074905623588_1501261276_n.jpg

Wonder if they split that shake?

Ugh,fuck all three people that posted this on my timeline today. Also xpost with that Facebook images thread:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/388029_253681378084721_1032374926_n.jpg

sarah palin is a horrible human being who really ought to die a horrible death in the near future. just sayin.

"mmmmmm, tastes like bigotry. thumbs up!"

There's one of those Willly Wonka meme things going around calling out OPEC for being more homophobic than C-F-A.

that photo is awesome, can't hate

Oh it's chick-fil-a.. Shit, disregard previous post... Ugh

Is Sarah Palin entering her "Bono" stage?

That's the second time this week I've seen her posing in ridiculous sunglasses in a place where she need not be wearing ridiculous sunglasses.

It's because she's super high

She'd be far more respectable if she was super high all the time

"That's the second time this week I've seen her posing in ridiculous sunglasses in a place where she need not be wearing ridiculous sunglasses."

Snip, snip, spritz, spritz.

Amazon's Bezos donates Amazon's Bezos donates $2.5M in support of same-sex marriage.5M in support of same-sex marriage

Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, and EA all have vocally supported marriage equality too but i'm not aware of them backing their words with this kind of money.

I like the taste of Chick-Fil-A's food and it's lower in fat than most fast food, and I've eaten there many times in the past despite many misgivings but they've really crossed a line this time and I can't consciously eat there anymore.

not sure what happened with that link but you get the drift

5M in support of same-sex marriage going once...

I've been reading up on Chick-Fil-A for the last half hour. I wish I could take back all the money I've ever spent eating there.

The same-sex marriage brouhaha is the tip of the iceberg. (shortly after Jim Henson pulled the Muppets toy giveaways, C-F-A announced they were no longer available due to "safety defects"). Chick-Fil-A funnels sizable amounts of cash to their own Winshape Foundation, which in turn gives about $2,000,000 yearly to the likes of Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum (anti-feminist, anti-female employment, and an anti-vaccine wacko), and the Family Research Council (anti-LBGT rights, anti-abortion, and anti-stem cell research), and perhaps the worst, James Dobson's "Focus on the Family" (pro-child abuse a.k.a. "corporal punishment", anti-gay rights, anti-abortion rights, anti-divorce, anti-pre-marital sex, promotes abstinence-only education and teaching creationism in science classes). Winshape also operates a resort which hosts 8,000 people yearly, and which prohibits gay or lesbian couples.

Keep meaning to post this video, Chow Down at Chick-Fil-A, made by one of the contestants on the latest Rupaul's Drag Race:

http://youtu.be/sO-msplukrw

That's great.

I think this explains a lot:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/07/30/stance-vs-substance-why-evangelicals-are-confused-about-the-actual-harm-chik-fil-a-is-doing-to-actual-people/

When your entire culture has loud tribal banner-waving as a key component, of firmly reaffirming publicly declared stances without any attention paid to actually acting on those stances, you get confused when people get all het up about the shit you actually do.

yup.

i've been really annoyed by this idea that OF COURSE Chick-fil-A is anti-gay "because they're Christian!" like what did you expect, liberals?! just because someone is Christian we're to automatically assume they're going to be bigoted?? one of my best friends is the pastor at a Presbyterian church not two blocks from Independence Hall. if he owned a business, it's highly unlikely he would be open on Sunday. but he also supports marriage equality (because WWJD?), and he would never give money to a hate group like the Family Research Council.

also weird is how personally these folks seem to be taking this. how dare one suggest folks shouldn't support CFA! evangelical groups boycott companies ALL THE TIME and no one says boo (Disney, JC Penney, Target, Hormel, etc etc). (tho i get that the Boston & Chicago mayors throwing in makes this a little dicier)

anyway, shouldn't they be thrilled that now they won't have to eat their crappy chicken sandwich around any of them queer fellers?

saw a guy wearing pink shorts and sockless boat shoes at the one on campus today who looked thrilled to bite into the fried meat in his hand

You can still avoid this place and loathe where the money goes and shake your head at gay libs who think "banning" CFA and having gays married and in the military will bring the US to nirvana.

saw a guy wearing pink shorts and sockless boat shoes at the one on campus today who looked thrilled to bite into the fried meat in his hand

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 30, 2012 8:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post

Lol was that me

Chick-Fil-A Weekend

You can still avoid this place and loathe where the money goes and shake your head at gay libs who think "banning" CFA and having gays married and in the military will bring the US to nirvana.

you can still create the nirvana of false dichotomies!

oh, so not getting into rhetorical cockfights.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/30/chick-fil-a-brand-approval-rating-anti-gay-controversy_n_1719359.html

timely!

http://www.theonion.com/articles/chickfila-debuts-new-homophobic-sandwich,28888/

Chick-Fil-A Debuts New Homophobic Sandwich

'Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu' Goes On Sale Wednesday

JULY 24, 2012 | ISSUE 48•30

ATLANTA—As part of its recent efforts to publicly align itself with fundamentalist Christian values, the Chick-fil-A restaurant chain announced today the debut of its new Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu sandwich that would be on sale in all of the company's 1,600 restaurants this Wednesday.

In a press conference to reporters, company representatives said the homophobic new sandwich will include the national fast food chain’s trademark fried chicken filet wrapped in a piece of specially-smoked No Homo ham that would be topped with a slice of Swiss cheese and lathered in a creamy new Thousand Island-based Fag Punching sauce.

"The Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu is our company's way of showing our firm commitment to strong, Christian family values," said Chick-fil-A spokesman Robert Gary, before adding that the vehemently anti-gay rights sandwich comes served in a combo with waffle fries and a medium soda for just $6.95. "From the very first morsel of this savory meal to the very last bite, customers can envision gays burning in hell with their sodomizing cohorts, and know that our sandwich is on their side.”

"Of course, the young ones will want to finish their meals off right with a No Fudge Packin' Soft Serve Cone," Gary added. "I can't think of a better way to follow up a sandwich this good."

While the release of the Queer-Hatin’ Cordon Bleu has led to anger from pro-gay rights groups, loyal Chick-fil-A customers claim they are happy they can finally enjoy a sandwich that takes a firm stance on the issue of homosexuality.

"Any sandwich that combines that great Chick-fil-A flavor with a hefty dose of vitriolic homophobia is definitely going to keep me coming back for more," said Atlanta customer John Oaks. “Come Wednesday, I’m going to be first in line for this thing.”

According to sources, the Queer-Hatin’ Cordon Bleu is merely the first of Chick-fil-A’s new family values menu which is set to include the AIDS Is God’s Curse chicken nugget combo and the Fags Caused 9/11 strawberry fruit smoothie.

On a related note:

Documenting the piss-taking from everybody from Conan to John Goodman

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/02/clowns-prophets-and-the-chick-fil-a-flustercluck/

And in costume:

http://m.gawker.com/5930964/john-goodman-stars-as-colonel-sanders-in-a-pro+gay-ad-for-kfc

Meanwhile, the Huckabee culture war/tribal-reinforcement day set a sales record.

Although one wonders if the long-term ramifications were worth it, with telling a bunch of people with money that they can fuck right off.

I just came here to say I love that Steve Perry gif a lot

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-250_162-10013218.html?tag=page

can't recommend this enough

‎"Chick-fil-A team member Dakota Bibbs, center, cheers as customers aid in his search for the owner of an order ready for pick-up"

"Weston Stoler explains that his panda bear hat was the closest thing he could find that looked like a cow as he waited in line for over an hour outside the Decatur, Ala., Chick-fil-A restaurant, Aug. 1, 2012."

"Antoine Dodson gives his views on Chick-fil-A outside the Whitesburg Drive location in Huntsville, Ala., Aug. 1, 2012."

this fucking country, i swear

that entire photoessay is fucking terrifying

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-250_162-10013218-36.html?tag=page

idk, Rahm Emanuel seems like a motherfucker with some dark secrets, he might eat all kinds of birds

at least Huck knows a semicolon from honey mustard

would love to hear the conversations that took place while these motherfuckers had to stand in line for ~1 hr to get a chicken sandwich. do they stick with it so that the company gets their SUPPORT? for the EXPERIENCE? to prove to someone that they're committed? so they can get the picture of themselves holding the chicken sandwich at the end?

occupy chicken sandwich

to prove to someone that they're committed?

This. Remember, this shit is tribalism. Celebration & reinforcement of the in-group, denigration of the out-group. Loudly shouting to yourself and your neighbors of your stance. Repping for your team no what heinous shit they did or how wrong they are. Being part of an exciting thing that you can join in with your friends.

i know otherwise extraordinarily nice folks who think this is a good idea and it makes my veins bulge

Same here.

Is the kiss-a-thon happening today?

http://blog.mywonderfulworld.org/2009/02/11/Little_Rock_Desegregation_1957.jpg

"hey grandad did you go to chick-fil-a on august 1, 2012?"

"ummm, well... see, i..."

What happens when progressive evangelists write about this stuff:

So please stop redefining Christianity as a superficial cultural tribe that self-identifies through its particular tastes in facial hair, “relevant” fashion, political stances, and the culture war loyalty test of the week (despite what it says in the picture your friend shared with you on facebook, you really won’t burn in hell if you don’t share it with 10 other people). Instead of all the superficial tribalism, be disciples who take a stand against your own sin. Be evangelists who are acutely attentive to navigating around other peoples’ stumbling blocks and loving them into the truth. Be witnesses of the beauty you have seen in Jesus Christ. Don’t let anyone trick you into being any less.

Problem is, plenty of folks are by nature far more into marching behind a standard, any standard carried by their authority figures their entire culture, personality, and upbringing have hardwired obedience into. Works the same with a national flag. What the standard or flag means don't mean shit, it's about marching behind it.

These dudes are "Christian" as a brand name only; theyre much more into following the State Religion of the Empire than listening to some dude who said hey we should actually care about poor people. The tenets of the religion don't mean squat, group affiliation does.

Whenever rightwing doofuses pop up to make proclamations about why they're doing what they're doing, I just replace the word "Christian" with "Ohio State," and it makes far more sense.

i know otherwise extraordinarily nice folks who think this is a good idea and it makes my veins bulge

Yeah, people are complicated and plenty of smart people believe things for decidedly non-smart reasons. I know folks who believe in new age medical bollocks and libertarianism, and it's the same reaction.

i was on a plane the other day and sat next to a 10-year-old Unaccompanied Minor girl and she was telling me about her school and was like "it's a christian school but i dunno some of the kids don't act very christian" and i was like lol welcome to earth

thumbing through your copy of Lolita

she was thumbing through her copy of emma actually

I was going to start rewriting "Don't You Want Me" around this scenario but I got to "you were thumbing through your Emma in an airplane seat" and all my BAD IDEA alarms went off

you were thumbing through your Emma in an airplane seat
when I met you
you lectured me
you preached to me
I laughed you off
my little boo

"it's a christian school but i dunno some of the kids don't act very christian"

Exactly. This. The term is a marketing/tribal/brand name you use to sell shitty pop music to rightwing authoritarian followers. It has dick-all to do with the source of the name or paying attention to the teachings of some itinerant revolutionary rabbi who had some good ideas tromping around Asia Minor during the reign of Tiberius.

It's one of the reasons I don't identify myself as "Christian", but rather as "drunken Protestant" or "loosely Presbyterian"

idk who gets to determine what "acting Christian" means, does it just mean acting like the ideals? pretty sure people confuse "you are supposed to do this" with "you will act like this at all times because you are infallible"

there's a noticeable difference between "I try to live up to these ideals but sometimes I make mistakes" and "I pay lip service to these ideals but never follow them because I am a gigantic ass"

i think she just meant people were being dicks more than they had to be

lol

Right, wot Dan said.

Posted to my facebook today re Chik-Fil-A: Hey...let's eat water intensive meat during a drought to celebrate our homophobia....

Christianity = "Boy, I sure am a sinner. I should ask every day for forgiveness."

"Christianity" = "Boy, you sure are a sinner. You should ask every day for forgiveness. I, on the other hand, have a Jesus fish on my car."

Hey...let's eat water intensive meat during a drought to celebrate our homophobia....

I think you mean "homophilia." At least that's my experience.

Homo-Fil-A

this whole thing is really reminding me of the terry shiavo thing for some reason

because it's so fucking stupid, is the reason, probably.

Yes, and it's another skirmish for people desperately wanting to prove that they're not victims of modernity by bolstering themselves and loudly chanting their tribal affinity and righteousness to drown out any possible internal doubt or anxiety.

Check the Slacktivist link I posted a coupla days ago; American conservative/Republican/evangelical culture is _all_ about declaring the correct Stances, and ostracizing those who don't reaffirm some plank as zealously as others.

Looks like from that picture gallery there is a competition about which congressman can prove they are the most "conservative" by having the most chick fil a bags on their desks.

Feel like this is the Stand with Chik-Fil-A standing in for Las Vegas.

Here, this gawker bit is good:

All Meals Are Possible Through Christ: Hate-Bingeing on the Chicken

...People gathered to celebrate the wonder-working power of redemption through Christ—which, instead of what all those pipe-organ songs seem to suggest, is cause for intense, simmering resentment.

[....]

Indeed, you could be forgiven for assuming that this was solely a protest in favor of religion, but it was as much about Free Market Jesus as it was about the original version, with the poor people and the repudiation of material things. A large motivating factor for the Chick-Fil-A celebrants was aggrieved rhetoric from the far right that portrayed gay activist groups as violating or suppressing the First Amendment in two ways. One, that citizens boycotting a business constitutes active suppression of speech, and that Obama/The Gays/The Left were "criminalizing" pro-Christian speech. Two, that the original text of the First Amendment read, "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, unless that speech or assembly affects a corporation's bottom line."

i ate at CFA on wednesday but didnt find out until afterwards that it was hate-a-homo day. it wasnt any busier than it usually is at lunchtime on a weekday. i ate there the next day too

I hope you introduced yourself.

isn't it illegal to ingest CAF products more than once a week?

Hungry4Ass&Chicken

lol

"hello my name is hungry4ass and I am hear to share chicken with you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF00qCIGe04

has this been posted yet

argh typo

wow xp

ugh

Yay tribalism

it'd be depressing if it weren't so hilarious

A lot of Eagle Scouts have been sending their medals back in protest of Boy Scout policy. I suppose I'd do this, too, but I have no idea where my Eagle Scout medal is.

I might have my Second Class badge around somewhere...

https://sites.google.com/site/chickenoffset/

Surprise!

http://chicagophoenix.com/2012/09/18/chick-fil-a-agrees-to-end-anti-gay-donations-mandates-equal-treatment-of-gays/