I couldn't find the old thread where we were talking about this, so here's a new one.
First of all Sanoodi is awesome. Much better than Google Maps Pedometer for keeping track of your runs. Here is my run from this past weekend, the longest distance I have run in my adult life. Yeah, I was going slow and basically shuffling my feet for 8 miles, but it felt great.
― Jeff, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
After years of mocking, I've suddenly got into running (mostly because I can do at 2am after work when everything else is shut). I haven't bought any fancy tech yet, because I know that way lies importing specialist kecks from Japan that reduce drag coef by 0.002 somethings, but could definitely do with some proper shoes.
― stet, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:17 (5 years ago) Permalink
I wish to talk about running.
I can run 5.5 miles now (52 min.), which is truly astounding to me b/c there was a time not too long ago when I could not run a single mile.
So - what is your time? How far? Where? Etc.
― differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
i am trying to go farther b/c i'm doing a half marathon in may but i have a weird thing where i'm afraid to go far away from my house because what if i break my ankle and have to limp 5 miles back or something? so i go in loops a lot. also i hate running when it's light out. wtf is wrong with me?
― я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've thought about running farther out than I can run back. Do you live somewhere w/ public transit? If not, I'd advise that maybe you bring cab fare or your phone so you can call a friend. I've been running on a treadmill, so this hasn't been a problem. When spring comes I'll take it outside.
I don't know about running when it's light out! What is it that bothers you about it?
― differently valid (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dunno, people looking at me and stuff. and you can see how far away stuff is so it makes it feel like more effort. running is such a mental thing, i can't even make myself do it sometimes because i'm remembering that last time was hard, even though it was also fun.
we have public transit, i could do that
― я рилли (harbl), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
Did my first run across the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday -- lots of fun. Total run was something like 3.2 miles.
― Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Started running again for the second time in my life ever. Gave it up after my first 10k, found it too boring. Gearing up for a more manageable 5k in june sometime, hoping to break 20mins.
― ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
am ratcheting up my irregular runs into regular ones - dunno how far it is but i usually run along the dalston canal from queensbridge rd to victoria park (approach rd) and back again - cracked some sort of barrier this week when i managed to do it all in one go, rather than stopping to die halfway through.
running tips would be appreciated, actually - basic stuff like pacing, breathing correctly, anything which makes it all more effective which a novice might not be aware of. i am so unbelievably shit at pacing myself.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
Am an amateur myself but "go slower" sounds like it might be good advice. When I first started I was almost sprinting, could barely do 100m let alone 10k. Then I figured out that maybe I should take it down a notch. Think jogging not running.
― ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
Some friends I run with barely go above walking pace...
― ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
Key is not stopping: I'm not sure how far you go, but better to go from 30 mins at whatever slowish pace feels comfortable, then 40, then 50 etc...Eventually speed will follow, but until you learn to breathe evenly (ie maintaining a steady pace), it's hard to relax and enjoy it.
I run every other day, normally 3 laps of Prospect Park, which takes 80-90 mins, and is about...11 miles? I used to run the Brooklyn bridge and round seaport, battery, and up the west side highway - there are some good routes around there.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
i guess it's better to run further/for a longer time and slower than to push yourself wrt speed but only manage to run for half an hour, then?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 16:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
agreed.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 17:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
stopping is ok if you plan to start up again though--if you break up an hour run into 15-20 min segments walking a couple minutes in between it can be good for your endurance
i want to start going a little faster soon, my "short" run now is 3.5-4 miles but i think i want to add a day per week of intervals or pyramids? suggestions? i run no faster on short runs than on long runs, which is wrong.
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
A couple things I find helpful when I run
1. Try to be in your head and chest instead of in your legs, if that makes sense. Like focus on your upper body moving forward and not your stride (though you should check your stride from time to time)
2. Keep your torso/shoulders somewhat moving and loose -- this might just be personal because I have a shoulder/back problem that tends to cramp up when I run
― Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
no 2 makes sense - last week it suddenly hit me that my shoulders were SO TENSE when i was running - consciously trying to relax them seemed to make everything a bit easier
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Anyone have advice for avoiding shin splints? During the winter I run on treadmills and don't have a problem. But I like to run on the street when it gets warmer, and it's not long before my shins start to hurt. Shoes are obviously the main factor. Last year I bought a new pair of shoes that weren't quite wide enough and they murdered my feet and shins. Now I have a pair that fits right, but I still find that I get some mild pain in my shins after running outside. I stretch for quite a while before I run, although I often run first thing in the morning and I feel like my whole body is a lot stiffer than it would be later in the day. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
― lou, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha, i consider half an hour to be pretty good. i usually get bored around then.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
what i post about when i post about running
Today: 5k in an exhausting 27 mins.
― ledge, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i'm starting this tomorrow, i've made a couple false starts the last few months but time to be less slothful
― velko, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hmm, the splints. I've never stretched, and never had too many problems (sometimes heels though). I also feel less limber in the morning. Main thing, I think, is shoes. It's worth paying more ($150/year for exercise is cheap!) to go to a proper place that will analyze your running style on a treadmill, make the right suggestion (ie avoid going to a shitty chain store). Also, if you're used to treadmill / soft surfaces, the road takes a little while to adjust to - your shins are working slightly differently and complaining cos they're not used to it. So make that move slowly, if possible (a park with a dirt track?). Also, when they hurt, stop. It's no good trying to run through it, which can work with other kinds of running pain.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Also, harbls right about stopping if you feel like it - between each 30 min lap of the park, I often stop for a minute or two to drink water, or tighten laces, or just calm down a bit...I meant more that it's better to maintain a steady pace than to run fast for 6 minutes then stop, winded, for a few more, then gallop off again.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
I get shin splints sometimes, but I can't really find a correlation between what I'm doing and the pain. A friend (Jeff, who started this thread) recommended that I get a gait test done at a one of these places http://www.fleetfeetsports.com/.
I've read that if your calves get overly strong compared to your shins, that your shins suffer.
W/r/t words of wisdom, I'll just tell you things I have done (I'm at around 6 miles max and usually 10 mpm). 1. Measure distance and time. Being on a treadmill really helped me with this. Or you can use http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ to measure your distance.
In any case, knowing the distance you run and the time you spent was invaluable for me b/c it helped me to quantify my accomplishments, not to cheat, and to set new goals.
2. I vary my speeds and distances. I read stuff about why doing this is good, and it seems to make sense and it feels good, so I do it. I guess you get to work on both speed and endurance this way.
3. Double espresso. Especially if I'm feeling tired or unmotivated, a shot of caffeine can turn a slogging, annoying jog into a decent run. Also at times when I've been trying to push myself to new goals, this helps. (I read this in a newspaper's health section and I also read something in a Men's Health or somewhere about how a flat Coke is perfect for when you hit a wall on a long run.)
― milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's good because it is a shot of sugar, so
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
^ yeah i've never understood this because sugary stuff when you're exercising is so gross, and causes cramps! whatever works.
anyway i've just gotten up to 6 miles (takes me an hour but oh well!) but i have trouble running during the week so i'm doing ok with long runs but not shorter, faster ones! fail.
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.doitsports.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0009w6
I read a magazine article posted in a coffee shop about how caffeine before running can be a good thing.
By the way, the reason I do double espresso instead of a coffee or soda is that it's more concentrated, not b/c I think it contains more caffeine. A minor peeve of mine is when people get all het up about espresso keeping you awake for days, etc.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's strangely ILX-ish over in that board.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
I forgot I started this thread.
Jesse, let's run today. We'll race.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
I won't run unless I can track it somehow. Currently I use the Garmin Forerunner 305, but I'm jealous of the smaller 405 these days.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Having said that, I haven't run since 1/4/09 when I ran 2 miles in 19:21. I was so dissapointed in myself I haven't done anything since then. Plus it's been too damn cold.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have only really done any serious running on the treadmill and I will not be racing you. I will run w/ you, though not today.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
OK, I ran. 2.35 miles in 22:21. It was pretty miserable. I think I need to go to an ENT before I do that again.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I want to start running. I'm afraid I'll be one of those guys that gets a heart attack immediately. Oh well. Where to start? There's a gym down the block from me that's only $5 a day. Should I be intimidated by the 'gym people?' Just bought an iPod shuffle. There are lots of nice places to run outdoors here too. Is the 'runner's high' real? Help me get started!
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think the best thing is to just make a start. and don't feel bad if you go slow! i agree with that person up there that said just keep going as far as you can, even if it's just a shuffle.
I've heard this site/program is good for starting out: http://www.c25k.com/
― behind the times (gem), Monday, 23 March 2009 12:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
No need to be intimidated by the gym people - they are just there doing their thing and you don't need to worry about being judged. If you're going to run on a treadmill (which I think is good to do sometimes to get realistic assessments of progress, as discussed above) getting an employee to show you how it works could set your mind at ease. They're pretty straightforward, but still.
Also what gem said - just do what you can to begin and if you keep it up, you will be fine. Following a program would be a great idea.
I don't know about runner's high - can anyone speak to that? I've heard that it's the rush of endorphins you get at some point during a hard run, but I don't know if I've ever experienced it.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
i did the couch to 5k--didnt get up to 5k but i was doing 2 miles in around 20-25 minutes when i stopped (which is a HUGE accomplishment for someone like me). i think its helpful for the kind of person (like me) who needs concrete goals, times, distances, etc. in order to feel and measure progress. without it i would end up spending a week just sort of running for half an hour at a time and abandoning it because there was no structure. once you complete the c25k you can just go out there and start doing 3 mile runs or whatever. i should take it up again really.
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
i haven't gotten it recently but i did sometimes get runners high when i was in better shape, like when i was 19. i think you would know if you got it though. it feels like you don't have to try and you could keep going forever, not like the struggle it normally feels like. cruisin'
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 14:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have gotten that sort of feeling. I just thought it was supposed to be some sort of euphoria. Maybe my standards for euphoria are too ambitious.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol people who tell u runners high is like ecstasy are people who have never done ecstasy--its more like "being in a good mood"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Monday, 23 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
i try to do btwn 3-5 miles every other day & basically track totals by month which helps a lot w/ the structure and measuring aspect
― johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
No runner's high for me. It is miserable every single step.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 02:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
Every winter gets me totally out of the routine and out of shape, but I'm getting started again since the time change, and since the sidewalks haven't been iced over for a couple of weeks. (I know some people get out of bed an hour earlier to go running in the cold just before sunrise, but...no, I run because I *like* it). Right now I'm only running about 3 miles a couple times a week, and I'd like to work up to more regularly running 5 miles again, hopefully approaching 10 in the summer.
I don't think I've experienced runner's high, which I've always thought is because I like to fall into a comfortable groove that I can keep up for a long time, instead of pushing myself so hard I break through some kind of crazy physical barrier...but if it's more "cruising" and less "euphoria", maybe I have!
― Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
If what I've experienced is a runner's high, and if that experience is what others consider euphoria, then I pity those people.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
I ran 2 miles today in 18 minutes, which is Very Good.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
i dunno it's kind of like you feel a switch go off, i really think you would know
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
also do you guys run in the morning? i can't do it, i always feel so stiff and tired, and if i plan to wake up earlier to run i just end up going back to bed. i'd like to do it in the morning just to get it done but i'm wimpy.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't even go back to bed, I can't get out of it in the first place. I ran in the morning when I first started, but I didn't need to be at work very early then, so it was easier.
― Maria, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 11:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
this goes for me the exact same.
i only run in the morning... by the end of the day my energy levels are good enough to cycle home, but not really high enough for a run
― behind the times (gem), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i don't mean i run and then get back into bed, i think i meant i go back to sleep and never get out of bed. i guess i'm a morning person but if i don't need to be somewhere i'm just going to sleep. i just need to do it and get used to it but it's easier said than done. thinking about summer though, if it's 95º during the day i should make myself run at 6 am when it's high 70s instead, or else i'll have to wait until it's dark out which is not always the best idea.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Jesse, when are you going to start running outside? I can't do the treadmill, I like running outside too much. I like the heat (whenever it gets here) and the lakefront views. And taking a break at the zoo.
I can't get up early to run, because I already get up at 5:30 to try and get into work by 7:00 am. To get up early would just give me so little sleep I wouldn't be able to run or work. Then I sometimes I don't leave work till 6:30 or 7:00 pm, so it's hard to get the energy to run at night either. I can't run at lunch because I don't have time and normally eat at my desk. So it's mostly weekends for me at this point. Not good for building up stamina.
I should get these today. I'm pretty excited, I'm tired of the wires of my current headphones bouncing everywhere.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 12:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm going to start when it gets a little warmer and isn't raining. This summer I plan not to wuss out and run indoors when it gets hot like I did last summer.
Those headphones seem pretty cool, but I do a lot of fiddling w/ volume, tracks, etc., so that might be limiting. Wires are the bane of my existence though.
I usually run in the evening right after work. For the past many days I have set my alarm so that I would get up and run in the morning, but I've been hitting snooze. When it gets lovely out I'm going to ride my bike to work which will be a nice change.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh, Jeff - why do you have to go to ENT? I'm assuming that means ear-nose-throat.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
I prefer to run in the evenings, after work (or after sundown on weekends). I got used to this schedule because I found that during summertime, it was simply too hot to run during the day.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, figuring out timing is tricky. During the winter, it's too cold to run until the evening, whereas during the summer, early mornings is best (this is NYC). Combined with a job...weekends are the only easy time.
On the runner's high thing: I never feel that euphoric. The two types for me are the cruising feeling when it feels like running is no effort, that you're almost floating, and could go on forever (happens maybe every 5th run?), and the sense of immense well-bring after a run that lasts an hour or two. But no, not ecstasy-like at all.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm lucky enough to work a runable distance from home, so I can do it as my commute if I want. Saves lots of time.
Easiest runners high is got from a flat run with a nice tailwind behind you, sometimes you can stop trying and just float along. Is that cheating?
― Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's a great feeling. Cheating, yeah a little. Do you shower at work?
― paulhw, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have a feeling of great well-being after running too. It turns my mental state around, which is great if I'm depressed or just blah. The hard part is starting running when I'm feeling blah.
Having a shower at work is great. I'm lucky to have a full home-style bathroom at work, which is great for biking in. But I live about 8 miles from my work, so I probably will never run it.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah ive gotten to the point where i feel like crap if i DONT run for 3 or 4 days. right, then also i totally sleep and feel better after i've run or exercised in some way. i go late afternoons/early evenings usually
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Running fixes drinking.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
The two types for me are the cruising feeling when it feels like running is no effort, that you're almost floating, and could go on forever
yeah i get this too. they seem like they last for ages, then you come out of that state and realise it only lasted for 10 mins. agree about the state of well-being post-run though - it seems obvious but my head just feels so amazingly clear after even a 25-min run. i imagine it'll get better as i start running longer, which is great motivation.
i work from home, so i run during the day when no one's around - running at the weekend and having to constantly dodge other runners, cyclists, walkers who love to gawp at struggling runners, is hellish. the ideal is to do it first thing in the morning but i have to beware the procrastination trap and getting to 1pm without doing anything cuz i'm going for a run "in a minute".
used to run with headphones but they were too much of a distraction...running without music is really good actually, you can completely clear your head.
my sinuses can be an issue esp if it's a bit cold, a snotty nose really impedes your breathing but i don't want to be stopping to blow my nose all the time.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the "floating" feeling is great, and it happens only every 4th or 5th run for me too. Another thing about the post-run "high" ... do you guys ever hit the pub after running? Not immediately afterward, of course, but after re-hydration, shower, food, etc. There's nothing like the taste of that first beer after a run. It's like the most refreshing drink ever.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
Although maybe it's not healthy to drink too soon after running? I don't do it too often though ...
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
i love beer after a run because the alcohol hits you so fast and you can feel it in your extremities all tingly. maybe just me though.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
after rehydrating and shower = don't really count this as after a run
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, it's not exactly "after the run", but it's still during the period of "immense well-being" that paulhw talked about, the one that lasts for an hour or two.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
In any case, the beer really does taste different in that situation, and that's what matters to me.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
i used to run at least a few miles every day but now that i'm playing pickup basketball just about every day that's more than taken its place.
― Leif ericsonned (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
i love the post-run beer
― meat of beef (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 16:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
Agreed. Cigarettes are great after a run, too, but I don't do that anymore.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 17:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
hey does anyone else have problems with foot pain, plantar fasciitis?
love running but goddamn this constant pain is getting annoying. : (
― Reege & Leif (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 17:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I had a lot of trouble with my feet when I started running. First thing I did was get fitted properly for running shoes. However, I would get these stabbing sharp pains on the outside of my feet after runs that would last for 2 weeks. Turns out that it was peroneal tendinitis. I went to a podiatrist and got fitted for foot orthotics. It was the best thing I've every done for my active life, I haven't gotten that pain again and I'm generally pain free while running. However I do get some hip snapping on occasion, where the iliotibial tendon passes over the outside of the hip. It doesn't hurt, but it can be alarming. I get the occasional knee pain, but nothing too major.
Immediately after running I have this ravenous craving for a burger and beer.
Jesse, sign up for the Ravenswood Run 5K.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 23:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
well, i guess i'll see how it goes.
i went to a good store, supposedly one of the "50 best running stores in america" according to some plaque they had. shoes were $112 after a big discount so they better be good.
if it keeps up i guess i will look into orthotics.
― stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 23:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
i get those pains occasionally...not every time, and not unbearable, but just pain on the inside of my left foot whenever i put weight on it for a few days after some runs. really should get fitted properly.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 23:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
been running for a while but over the last few months got really into it going like 5-6 times a week but damn my legs got super tight n painful - stretched tons switched up my routine did intervals etc but i think thats just too much running for me so i took a week off and now imna dial it back to 2-3 runs a week 2 yogas - did yoga today was v nice - run tomorrow!
also will be warm enough for basketball soon so ill work that in somehow i dunno
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 23:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've never had beer after a run. I always crave cold skim milk, sometimes right after I get back, sometimes a couple hours later. It feels so nutritious, I don't know that I could substitute beer.
My body JUST noticed that I've been running more since we switched the clocks two weeks ago (I only run outdoors)...hello soreness! Tomorrow I'll stretch and take it easy. Looking forward to feeling much stronger and going farther in another couple weeks.
― Maria, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 00:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
ive been thinking i should be stretching more. this is an off-day thing to do?
i've had some nagging knee pain beyond just your basic soreness/stiffness for a little while now. although it seemed to be worse in like october - feb and is now starting to feel a little better...do my knees have seasonal affect disorder?
think it could be some tendonitis just from describing symptoms to some friends so prob shd see a doctorb, eventually.
did 5 miles today in abt 42 mins on a treadmill + felt pretty good abt it. for me iced coffee hits the perfect spot afterwards
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 01:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
guys u know u can have yr post-run beer IN THE SHOWER
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 01:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
i had nagging knee pain and it cleared up immediately when i got new shoes but i bet you've considered that
― (lbrah) (harbl), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 01:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
yea its lasted thru my newest pair altho i wasnt fully fitted for them so perhaps should look into that
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 01:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
When I think shower-beer, I think of you, gbx! I haven't had one in a long time - probably a year. It's high time. (It never occurred to me to combine post-run beer w/ shower-beer!)
Jeff, I will do the Ravenswood 5K for sure. Are you signed up?
Also, as I asked before - why an ENT?
― milk plasma (Jesse), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 02:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yes, I signed up.
ENT for reasons too disgusting to go into on the internet.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 03:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
I ran this morning and it was terrible. 2 miles in 20-some minutes and I was stiff, achy, and sluggish. Coffee would have improved it a little.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
my feet are totally fucked up today
― stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
i should start running.
― ian, Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
Has anyone got any tips for strengthening calf muscles/ankles?
― Mr Raif, Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
go skiing
― turnover is validating, profit is salivating (ledge), Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
If you belong to a gym, you can use the seated leg press and move the weights by just flexing your ankles.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
Stand with the balls of your feet on the edge of a step with your heels hanging off and lift until it burns burns burns. I move my heels in an out to give relief to parts of my calf and work others.
Also, jumping rope.
I don't know what these do for ankles,but they work your calves like crazy.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
ran yesterday and im thinking my new yoga/running schedule will have to be reconfigured - was so sluggish - think imna go yoga/rest/yoga/rest/run/run/rest instead
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
only thing is i was planning on doing weights on the running days and two days in a row is no good - maybe i dont need too much weights if im doing yoga tho - was going to try to do yoga/run/rest/yoga/run/rest/rest - maybe once i get more used to yoga thatll maybe work out - or maybe flip flop the yoga and running - i dunno
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
whatevs not like im actually capable of keeping to a schedule anyway
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
anyway imna go to yoga today even tho this is the running thread
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
^^^ ya, this. i play tennis (s/s) and racquetball (f/w) about once a week which also tends to help with ankles
― Point being, I hate all of you. (Lamp), Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol yuppie
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
Maybe once you get used to doing yoga and running you won't need the rest days.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
you contemptibel nerd you yuppie fukkin homo
xp
― Point being, I hate all of you. (Lamp), Thursday, 26 March 2009 18:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
I ran today. Not fast, but good enough for the second time for the year. Three miles, going 8:46, 10:12 (wha happened?), and 9:55.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 March 2009 00:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
That's the time for each mile?
― milk plasma (Jesse), Friday, 27 March 2009 04:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
I did the Couch-to-5k program from December 1st to mid-February (spent November going for walks every day to get into the habit of going to the trails), then ran my first 5k at the beginning of March. Now I'm training for a 10k in October. I'm not very fast, but I have so far managed to not seriously injure myself, which I consider a real victory.
Plus my running shoes are on clearance at the Fila website for $40! 66% off! I can use the savings to buy sexy running shorts with a stripe down the side.
― f. hazel, Friday, 27 March 2009 07:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yes, time for each mile.
I wear Fila's. They were around $100. I also recommend to anyone, get new socks. These are my favorite ones right now.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 March 2009 12:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
Actually, it's these
― Jeff, Friday, 27 March 2009 12:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
i have wrightsock double layer antiblister socks. i guess they prevent blisters, i'm not really sure. i still get blood blisters on my middle toes.
― (lbrah) (harbl), Friday, 27 March 2009 12:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
the phrase 'performance socks' makes me laff
i scored some adidas microfiber socks on the cheap from marshalls that i like
― johnny crunch, Friday, 27 March 2009 13:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
In the NYT this weekhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/health/nutrition/26best.html?_r=3re caffeine as a performance booster
― milk plasma (Jesse), Friday, 27 March 2009 17:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
ha i was just gonna come in here to say, yes, it absolutely does work - drank some strong black coffee before i ran today and basically ran double the distance i normally do without stopping. amazing.
it is banned above a certain amount though i think? i remember the tennis player larisa neiland getting banned for caffeine about 10 years ago.
― lex pretend, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
i basically cant run w/o coffee - dont drink it otherwise
― ice cr?m, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ice cr?m, Friday, 27 March 2009 17:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
See, now that would just never work for me. I'm way too sensitive to coffee--it's hell on my stomach.
― lou, Friday, 27 March 2009 20:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
i was going to do a half marathon in a month but i think i'm not going to be ready :(
― (lbrah) (harbl), Friday, 27 March 2009 20:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
i mean i don't want to be a quitter but i also forgot what the point of signing up even was
That's a long run. I've always wanted to do the Solider Field 10 mile run, but I don't think I've ever been in the shape to do it.
― Jeff, Saturday, 28 March 2009 00:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
just discovered running in the cold dark streets after work at the start of this year. awesome.
started running for the first time ever a couple of years ago bc a teenager friend wanted to run a charity 5k and needed someone 18+ to do it with her, i hated the idea and did it as a favour but found out i really like it. since then i've tended to stop over summer (too hot) and winter (park closes at sundown) but i've been pleasantly surprised by the running-in-the-streets thing - i was reluctant bc don't like people looking at me at the best of times let alone when i'm red-faced and icky, but basically no one takes any notice of me, it's brilliant. i figure this is because lol self-obsessed central london (my running area is bordered by tottenham court road in the east, edgware rd in the west, oxford st in the south and euston/marylebone rd in the north). when it gets lighter i will go back to regents park though.
the most i've ever done with no stopping at all is just over 5 miles, in about 40-45 minutes at the beginning of last summer. at the moment i seem to be doing around 3 miles in 30 minutes with no stops 3 times a week, which feels slow but good. home to work is 6.5 miles and i'd love to be able to run my commute at some point - sadly there are no showers at work and i have to go out most nights, so this is unlikely... i can get away with cycling in and out because it's only half an hour and i bring clean clothes, but running gets me more thoroughly icky than riding. i guess i could join a gym but even before i think about the expense, it gives me the fear. i don't like treadmills, i don't like gym music, and i want stuff to look at. trees and buildings and stuff. not orange-faced people.
i started by doing the run three minutes-walk for a minute- run three minutes - walk a minute thing but now it seems to work better if i try not to stop at all... re the runners high euphoria thing, if it really is just that feeling like you could go for ages thing i'm kind of disappointed! bizarro definition of "euphoria"... i run without ipod or anything though and it's really good for working out some problem in my mind without forcing myself to concentrate on it, or clearing my head if it's been a full-on day at work.
running first thing in the morning does not compute. tried it, hated it.
the keeping shoulders loose thing really helps me, also keeping hands and fingers relaxed not clenched, and actively thinking about pushing my elbows backwards as well as my legs up and forward.
i would like something to track my progress, some pedometer thing. any suggestions? i will not buy nike and would like to keep the spend under £20.
re stretching and stuff, i think i am bad at this... i stretch my legs a little bit before in a really half-arsed way and a bit more after in a slightly less half-arsed way, but what should i be doing? i have had shitty ankles forever and manage to go over on both of them at least a few times a year (just through general walking around, not running).
beer immediately after running is terrific. is it a really bad thing to do? such a buzz...
― emsk, Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
I remember reading somewhere that mid afternoon is the best time to go for a run. The morning is the worst because your body hasn't woken up yet, the result is a lot of ache and pain afterwards. The only time i enjoy running in the morning is in the summer because it's still relatively cool.
― Mr Raif, Saturday, 28 March 2009 16:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
As mentioned above I really like my garmin forerunner 405. It's a little bulky, but I don't really mind. My main beef about it is that it takes several minutes to find satellites. I hate standing outside waiting for it to connect. Kills all motivation to run. I've found it's best if I just turn on and sit it by the window before I go out. Usually it's connected before I'm ready to go outside. I'm so hooked on using it, I refuse to run without tracking myself. If I run without tracking it it, it feels like it didn't even happen. I have the heart rate monitor as well, but I find it uncomfortable to wear.
― Jeff, Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
is there a drug you can take to simulate the fabled "runner's euphoria"? caffeine, maybe?
lately I've been slacking off like crazy, and in the past year I've probably averaged less than 2 days of running per week. when I was more ambitious, I ran on a treadmill at a moderate (~7 mph) pace a few nights a week, and I set aside two more nights for a high intensity interval workout. the latter went something like
warm up for 10 minutes, doing a few light intervals toward the end -> run seven or eight 30-45 second intervals at something like 10.5 mph @ an 8% incline, fast-walking for a couple minutes after each one -> cool down for 5 minutes
in theory, this type of workout pushes your body so hard that your metabolism stays at an elevated level for several hours afterward, making it a good bet for improving cardio health, building muscle, burning fat, et cetera. whereas when you run at a steady, moderate pace, your metabolism tends to return to normal soon after you're done, so in the long run you end up burning fewer calories even if you manage to burn more during the actual workout.
so it's a wonderful thing in theory, but maybe I pushed myself too hard, because sometimes during the last couple intervals I found myself huffing and puffing like crazy, getting a little lightheaded and unable to catch my breath even after a few minutes of rest. my heart seemed to be running at 1000 bpm, and once or twice I felt a touch of chest pain. plus I started to lose weight that I really can't afford to lose (lol skinny indie kid). basically I gave it up because I'm paranoid about collapsing and dying on the gym floor, and I'm also quite lazy. eh, if I'm anything like my dad, I'll develop bad hips and won't be able to run much at all by the time I'm 30, so maybe I can use premature aging as an excuse for sitting on my butt all day.
― bigstatusbrothers (unregistered), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
xpost
so this is the one you have? if the 2.11 oz figure is right, then it must be about the same weight as your average steel wristwatch. I think I could deal with that, but if I was running on a sidewalk, I'd be terrified of banging it against a fence or a tree or something. I know it costs a fortune to repair a Garmin GPS, and I'm guessing it's the same for that thing. but I'm really just hiding my jealousy. I'd love to have one of those (the closest I have is a barely functional pedometer), and I'd love to be able to keep track of my times on the computer, cuz I'm a statistics geek like that.
― bigstatusbrothers (unregistered), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
Actually, I have the bulkier 305. I covet the 405. It wirelessly syncs too, so you don't have to hook it up for it to transfer the data.
― Jeff, Sunday, 29 March 2009 16:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
I did speed/elevation intervals last night and it was grueling. Probably made worse by my sedentary, boozy weekend in which I smoked a couple cigarettes.
― milk plasma (Jesse), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 16:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
about 4.3 miles in roughly 40-45mins (walked for 5mins midway through) - longest i've ever done (usually do about 3 miles non-stop). and i think i can push myself a bit more next time - it's amazing how much of a second wind you can get. visible improvement really is the best motivation!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
i haven't started running this year yet but it's starting to warm up outside. should i kick things off with a 5k this weekend even though i haven't run in months (and haven't even used the elliptical in weeks)?
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Is this an organized 5K, or just your own thing? That seems like a lot for an initial foray.
― pullapartgirl (Jesse), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 16:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ran today for the first time in 17 days. It was pretty miserable. I hate running in this weather, I'd rather run in 95 degree heat.
Regardless, 2.89 miles. First mile at 7:56, then slowing down to 10 min because I was miserable.
― Jeff, Friday, 10 April 2009 00:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think I'm finally over the two week period of low stamina and shin splints I get when I start running more every spring! I hadn't run since Sunday due to weather and working late, but today I ran about 4 miles in 40 minutes comfortably, so that puts me back at my normal base level. Now the only thing between me and faster, longer runs is making time for them, which is always a little tricky.
Definitely should do intervals and shorter, faster runs more, they do help a lot with speed (and if it's true that they speed up your metabolism more, that'd be nice too). The problem is that I really, really hate them! It's so much more pleasant to go slowly and enjoy the scenery.
― Maria, Friday, 10 April 2009 02:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
i am just starting to commit to running several days a week seriously, but because i have never run regularly before, 2 miles in 22 minutes on a treadmill w/ 1.5 incline leaves me completely winded. some good advice tho on this thread, i hope to improve (first step: buy sneakers that hurt less, agh)
music seems as much an impediment as a motivator - if i play things with heavy beats i end up matching my running to the BPM of the music but i feel this might have some kind of deleterious effect in the long run (it def. results in my run subconsciously resulting in more of a stomp, which can't be good for my feet)
― renzo piano house (donna rouge), Friday, 10 April 2009 04:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
but at the same time i really do not want to work out to "poker face", now or ever
― renzo piano house (donna rouge), Friday, 10 April 2009 04:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
also i've always purposely avoided caffeine before a run because i assumed it would dehydrate me -> make muscles more tired. i didn't have any before i biked the bridge today and i was grunting and puffing before i'd even gotten to the bridge entrance, so i'm definitely going to try this now
― renzo piano house (donna rouge), Friday, 10 April 2009 04:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
is there a walking thread?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 10 April 2009 04:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
i was doing a good job, then stopped completely for the past 3 weeks, and now i'm doing that thing where i can't start again
― someone who is aware how stupid the net is (harbl), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
i went today, around the lake. sorta dragged ass, but i hadn't had much to eat. my roommate is training for a half-marathon and it's making me feel bad about myself
also btw caffeine isn't really ~that~ much of a diuretic
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's still too cold. I look at the 15 day forecast every morning. Watching. Hoping.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
i gave up on half-marathon. not gonna be ready. i suck :(
― someone who is aware how stupid the net is (harbl), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
what the hell dude it's in the mid-60s up here
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's just damp here, like 46º. probably tomorrow i'll be like it's too nice out i'll go tomorrow
― someone who is aware how stupid the net is (harbl), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
it was an organized thing that i didn't do. i did run a couple miles over the weekend and my legs were pretty sore on monday (did a fair amount of biking too, i guess i got a little too excited about the sun being out). looking forward to getting my summer legs in working order.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
I just ran this. I cooled down the last bit, so the run was just over 2 miles. It felt more, but at the same time it felt good and I could have gone longer. It was a lovely sunset and I saw lots of things.
I'm very happy that I did not succumb to the couch, which is happened last time and what I felt coming on this time.
― you'rine school (Jesse), Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
went out today and yesterday - only ran a couple times the ten days or so as ive been moderately to vaguely sick but my strength is returning - did a mile jog then 2 of intervals and some weights and core strengthening when i got home - next week i think ill be back on the yoga/running cycle - and u know what i think would be sweet to add once i get in a little better shape - plyometrics! why i dunno novelty
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yoga running schedule sound good, ima try tht
― the most naturally gifted poster of his generation (cozwn), Thursday, 16 April 2009 10:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
hey guys. i'm thinking about giving this a try, though aside from trailing the packing during laps in high school sports practice, i've never been much of a runner at all. i've been working on cardio -- elliptical & arctrainer machines @ the gym so i'm not hopeless. however, i now live a block away from a beautiful park about a half mile or so in circumference, and spring is upon us, and i want to get in fighting shape for lol kickball season. so.
any advice for a former chub scout whose knees are maybe not the best? or maybe encouragement, in addition to advice?
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
Go for it! Just take it a little at a time! Move into action, you'll get so much more! Go for it! Go for it!! Go for it now!!!
― turnover is validating, profit is salivating (ledge), Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, just hit the park and have fun with it. Wear decent running shoes so you don't kill your knees. It'll take a couple of runs for you to settle into your pace, run at a pace that feels comfortable for you -- pay no attention at first to the other runners in the park who may be slower/faster than you.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah just ease into it - itll be tough and somewhat horrible at first but youll get a flow in no time and start enjoying it - one thing ive always found v helpful is to complete the distance i set out to even if it means walking part of it - often ill feel totally gassed and decide to walk out the rest then once i catch my breath find that ive got more juice left and start running again
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
thanks guys! :D
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 16 April 2009 17:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
often ill feel totally gassed and decide to walk out the rest then once i catch my breath find that ive got more juice left and start running again
yeah i've found recently that i can basically double the distance i run b/c of this. also, when you find yourself really struggling, esp towards the end, set a point at which it's acceptable to stop - like, you won't feel like you gave up or anything - often the psychological relief of reaching that bridge/gate/whatever is so great that i can keep on going even further. you have to play these mind games w/yourself, i've found.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeh thats part of the reason i pretty much prefer intervals because u get to take breaks - also they are imo fyi way more invigorating than a steady running
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
2.34 miles today, averging 9:01
― Jeff, Saturday, 18 April 2009 23:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
5K27:14
Then I walked .5 and jogged another .5
All of this after eating Arby's.
― you'rine school (Jesse), Friday, 24 April 2009 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
(.5 miles, I meant)
― you'rine school (Jesse), Friday, 24 April 2009 04:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
OK, today was my practice for the 5K on Sunday. So 3.10 miles in 28:29. 1st mile = 8:35, 2nd mile = 9:29, 3rd mile = 9:43, .10 mile = 42 seconds. Despite slowing down, I felt like I was keeping more of a consistent pace, which felt good. I would be extremely happy if I can hit that time on Sunday.
― Jeff, Saturday, 25 April 2009 01:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
I decided today that I hate running and I'm never going to like it. I just like the resulting data set.
― Jeff, Sunday, 26 April 2009 22:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
Funnily enough I decided this week that I hate running and am giving it up after the 5k in July.
― Pro Creationism Soccer 2009 (ledge), Sunday, 26 April 2009 22:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
i hate it too but i quit all the time and that just makes it worse. i just do it because i have to do something. i'm not really good at "sports."
― barfy (harbl), Sunday, 26 April 2009 23:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
Actually I don't hate it. I just wish my schedule was such that I could do it more often. Then it might become tolerable.
Even though I hated every step, today's 5K was pretty good. I didn't expect to break 28 minutes, but official time was 27:45. My Garmin clocked it at 27:35. I stopped for 16 seconds at the halfway point to drink some Gatorade. Sprinted the last .3 mile.
― Jeff, Sunday, 26 April 2009 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
skipped a 5k today cuz i was too tired/hungover. one of my goals for the summer is a sub-24 minute 5k, though ive done nothing new to reach this and basically ALWAYS run 5k's in like 24:20 ~~ i guess :20 seconds isnt that tough an obtacle tho
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 26 April 2009 23:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
had a great running week last week. inauspicious start on tuesday, when i tried to run my normal distance but got awful stitches TWICE - it was unexpectedly hot and i think i failed to hydrate properly. thursday, i ran 6 miles! my furthest distance ever! and it felt GOOD all the way. so much so that i decided to run off my hangover on friday - this would've been a totally insane concept six months ago - and did pretty good.
(all in 45mins-1hr, i don't keep strict track of anything)
― lex pretend, Monday, 27 April 2009 00:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
i like running - been playing basketball mostly tho
― ice cr?m, Monday, 27 April 2009 00:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
JESSE K*** Time: 32:23 Pace: 10:26 Not fast, but better than I expected. I put myself in the 11:00/mile group b/c I was tired and I had a touch of GI distress. I ran the whole time, which is great.
― you'rine school (Jesse), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ha, I lined up with the 7 min a mile people. I did run the first mile in 7:44, but the was consistently passed the rest of the race.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 02:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
I almost didn't run today out of laziness...and then...I ran!
I've been running across Golden Gate Park and back, 3 miles + 3 miles. I started out just running one way and walking back, then worked my way up to the full 6 miles. Never been able to do these kinda distances before in my life, so I'm pretty content.
― iatee, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 03:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/news/35191-de-la-soul-prep-nike-running-mix/
― loaded forbear (gabbneb), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 13:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
started today. ran a total distance of about 1.75 mi in half- and quarter-mile intervals, mixed with about the same distance of walking. gonna take a while to get the endurance up but hey, it's a start.
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 17:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
So I've taken up running. It's only been a couple weeks. Right now is usually where I'd start to fear getting tired and slacking off on exercise, but I actually wake up early every morning excited to go out and run. In fact, I know I should take a day off and let my legs rest a little -- I also walk about four miles a day, to and from work -- but I keep putting it off, because I always want to go run.
I'm frustrated with my leg muscles, though. The first week was mostly about getting my cardiovascular system up to the challenge, just getting to the point where I could run over a mile without panting. Now my heart and lungs can keep up just fine, but by the time I start getting up toward two miles, my legs start giving out. Which is too bad, because I have to go home still feeling energetic, like I haven't really gotten a full workout. Hopefully the muscles will catch up soon.
Re: doing intervals of running and walking, it seems like this is demonstrably better for you, and more efficient in just about every way. Runner's World suggests starting out by doing 30-minute stretches -- first you alternate between 1 minute running and 1 minute walking, then gradually increase the running intervals until they're the full 30 minutes. I know I should do it this way, but a lot of the enjoyment and motivation I'm getting out of this has to do with seeing how much farther I can get each day, and I also don't trust myself not to cheat on intervals; I think I'd start doing all kinds of rationalizing and bargaining about why I can stop early or extend a walking bit.
― nabisco, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 18:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
even though i never approached it this way consciously, i think i was in the best shape was i did a lot of trail running that involved long stretches of walking. like, if it got so steep or rocky that running wasn't an option, or if i just got super tired.
you should probs take rest day, nabisco, if you're really out there seven days a week.
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 18:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm doing about 4 miles every other day, w/probably about 3 miles running and 1 mile walking. it's basically stretching, then walking, then running, then a little walking, then a lot of running, then twenty second walk, then another mile of running. works out well for me.
― gangsta hug (omar little), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
xpost - I know, I'm just bummed about having to skip a run. Maybe I just need to focus on how much better it'll be the day after a rest.
BTW, I've been reading Haruki Murakami's little running book, since I've had running on the brain anyway. Dude has run a 62-mile ultramarathon. Pretty much twelve hours of straight running.
― nabisco, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
I am also going to leave a quick list here of reasons I like exercising/running every morning, so I can be shamed/reminded months from now if I ever drop off:
- awesome feeling of accomplishment, even after a short, crappy run- higher energy level all day- slight tiredness/soreness makes it easier to sit calmly and concentrate on things like writing- mindset during running seems to help with concentration in general- experiencing real physical tiredness at bedtime, the good kind- body has better appetite, for healthier food, in healthier amounts; water intake has also shot up- markedly positive effect on digestive system even apart from changed diet- sudden ability during everyday activities to do something like sprint across an intersection without even feeling it
― nabisco, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I haven't run since that last 5K I did. I don't know what happened. Actually, I do; I had to finish up a school project and then Chicago weather became infuriating. It's June, just stay warm.
When I'm in a groove, I don't like stopping or skipping days either. Back when I would run the most, I would go 8 miles and then realize for the last half hour I couldn't feel my left foot.
― Jeff, Thursday, 11 June 2009 00:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
nabisco OTM! I went for a forty minute jog today, felt so lovely. It's a big muggy this week, though. I prefer running in our very big state park because it's fun getting lost.
― i've seen the way you've treated other fuxxors you've been with (Tape Store), Thursday, 11 June 2009 00:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
yea all those observations are so on the $. many of those i can still get by running in the late afternoon (like i feel more alert, smart, personable if i go out for drinks later) but i do wish i could make myself run in the a.m. altho 4 it to work, id have to get up at like 5
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 11 June 2009 00:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
h8 running in the morning
― THE BATHYPELAGIC ZONE (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
me too. i'm so stiff and slow in the morning.
a couple weeks ago i hit my long-term goal of being able to run 10 miles! it is exciting, i feel accomplished!
i've also been trying to run 25+ miles a week, but instead I've been doing a very unbalanced-feeling 5-5-10 or 2-3-5-10 schedule thanks to lots of travel and a little soreness keeping me from running as much as I'd like. i'm a little horrified that in july and august i'll be losing a lot of this progress because i'll be doing fieldwork and, if last summer is anything to go by, i'll quite literally not have time to fit in more than about 10 miles a week.
― Maria, Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
- slight tiredness/soreness makes it easier to sit calmly and concentrate on things like writing
^^^ very underrated side benefit from running (at any hour, not just in the morning)
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 11 June 2009 13:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
there was a thing in the nytimes abt doing that running and walking thing quite recently
― just sayin, Thursday, 11 June 2009 13:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
i hear a lot about it, and i do think it's useful to walk while running, but the plans for it are so regimented! it definitely makes sense if you can't hold yourself back from running too fast to keep up for long, but i think running slowly and walking when you think you need a break is so much less frustrating.
― Maria, Thursday, 11 June 2009 13:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
56 degrees, feels like 52, rain today.
I wish I could be like those hardcore runners that run all year.
― Jeff, Saturday, 13 June 2009 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's not even the temperature that holds me back in the winter, it's icy sidewalks and roads and darkness before and after work. i sort of wish we didn't switch clocks in the fall, it would be a little better.
― Maria, Sunday, 14 June 2009 02:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
8.5k! 45mins! i feel so so buzzed right now.
There's nothing like the taste of that first beer after a run. It's like the most refreshing drink ever.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:31 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^feeling this too
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
jeff's post remnded me that i've wound up doing my long runs in the rain for the past 2 weeks. i whine, but i might actually like it better than sun! so cool! makes me feel so alone and rebellious somehow!
― Maria, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
My only complaint with rain is that when I run without glasses, I feel like I might look up at some point and not understand how I wound up in New Jersey. (On the plus side, running in a world where you can't see too far into the distance really helps you empty your head and just focus on keeping moving.)
I think the walk/run thing is probably really helpful for beginning runners (like me) who otherwise wouldn't be able to keep up that long -- I really wish I liked it better, because it'd probably enable me to spend twice as along exercising, instead of having my legs give out early on.
― nabisco, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
My legs are still pissing me off, btw, even after a few days of rest. I walk several miles, every day, fast -- I really thought they'd be able to adjust better to running!
― nabisco, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
ugh i got stuck in a sleety downpour two days ago which really sucked. still finished tho. if its warm enough its okay and running when its overcast and ~about~ 2 rain is awesome u feel like its u against the incipient storm but the big problem is that constant rain makes it a lot easier to be like eff this and not go out
― ╠╦═╩╤╬╦╩══╦╦╬═╩╣ PIPE WORLD LVL 7 (Lamp), Friday, 19 June 2009 17:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
glasses in the rain really are a problem. not being able to see far is fine if you're on a quiet trail or road, but on a busier one it's a little scary. i have the option of wearing contacts, though, so if it seems that it might rain i wear them just in case.
― Maria, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
i run along a canal so a busy road isn't a problem - i tend to wear prescription shades when i run, whether it's sunny or cloudy, they help block stuff out - but if it's raining heavily i do worry about randomly slipping over all the time.
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
I run on a plaza by the Hudson in Manhattan -- there's a little over a mile where it doesn't approach the street or cross with the bike path, and I normally go back and forth -- so there's no scariness related to anything fast-moving ... but it does get busy and crowded some days, so I feel like I should be able to see everything, just in case.
― nabisco, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
My groin muscle is still acting up. Haven't ran in a month. Winter will probably be here in 2 weeks.
― Jeff, Friday, 19 June 2009 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
man i wish i liked running more. really struggling to "train" ie stay in basic fitness for this 5k in a month. but when a friend suggests a 5k-10k-5k run-bike-run in the autumn, i don't think "oh god no", but "mmm sounds tempting!"
― man saves ducklings from (ledge), Friday, 19 June 2009 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
that actually does sound fun! bet your legs would be jelly by the second run though.
― Maria, Friday, 19 June 2009 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
i reckon i would find it fun, it's just the training that suxxxxxxxxx.
― man saves ducklings from (ledge), Friday, 19 June 2009 18:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
OK so I've decided to start running and well . . . am excited but scared. I'm following a beginners plan and have the perfect spot to run at right along Boston Harbor. Will be checking in here now for tips etc. Eek!
― ☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
haven't run at all since i moved 5 weeks ago :(
― harbl, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Running is so easy and so accessible, and I would like to fitten up a little (esp while on break from dance classes) but my feet have been so bad that I just can't. Every time I sit on an air-conditioned subway train, my tendons have seized up by the time I get to my stop and I'm limping like a moron. I don't know how people can walk and run for fun and not be in constant pain.
I might srsly need to go to a podiatrist, it's kind of out of control to turn down invitations to hang out w friends because they're going to be walking all day and I just can't.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Also my roommate makes fun of me for avoiding walking, even tho she's way lazier than me about everything else.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
:-( GO see the Doc - that sounds horrible.
― ☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
heels? i have to wear inserts in my normal walking shoes or else they cramp up whenever i stop moving at all. there are like no shoes i can wear in the world. high arches + large, narrow feet.
― harbl, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
and any time i've ever worn heels my tendons do the seizing thing but i thought that was normal
― harbl, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't know what happened yesterday, i was doing my warm-up walk before running and i had pretty intense pain in my calf/shin, esp. the left leg. for like 15 minutes! when i started to run it went away
― velko, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Nah, I wear sensible old-lady shoes with conservative 1" heels -- almost flats but with a tiny bit of arch. And no pointy toes, either. It's not a shoe thing, except in the sense that I guess I could wear sneakers instead.
But I have two sets of insoles in my sneakers as well, and it doesn't make my bones ache any less.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
laurel, get some orthotics, asap!
xp huh
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
another 8.5k today, in heat this time. feeling v good about this at the moment.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
wooo 8.5 miles, new record.
tho - there is a worrying gap between what my lungs/heart/brain can do and what my feet/toes/legs can do. I had various leg problems in college, so I'm constantly paranoid about something bad happening on a run.
― iatee, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 23:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
I did 30 miles over 3 days (12-9-9) this Sat-Mon, and it was some of the hardest running I've done in ages. Even though NYC was rainy, it was humid and too sweaty. Still, iatee, if it helps, the more you run, the stronger you get (legs and heart/lungs). There's also nearly always a warning: if you feel a twinge (sometimes runs from your calf up to your butt), or like it hurts to walk after you've stopped, either lay off a little, or try to find dirt / grass. Makes a huge difference.
It's odd to me that people avoid running in winter and start in summer. Soooo much harder to run in July-August than December-January. Sure, leaving the house is a bitch in winter, but you're warm in 3 minutes...whereas it takes 2 hours to cool down after a run in summer.
Does anyone else need to vaseline nipples?
― paulhw, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 23:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
No, I do have to treat my thighs, however. Have you ever used Body Glide? It's fantastic.
― you'rine school (Jesse), Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.bodyglide.com/
I considered running today but it's still 91 degrees at 7:30 pm, so forget it. I need to renew my gym membership b/c it seems like in Chicago there are like only 20 days of outdoor running weather.
― you'rine school (Jesse), Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've been doing 5k every other night for awhile now, probably going to up it to about 6 before the summer is out.
― spiritual giant Cubby Culbertson (omar little), Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
i just use vaseline, need it for my thighs and upper arms on longer runs because my clothing seams tend to bug me.
i'm 9.5 miles away from my monthly mileage goal, and all of a sudden it's in the eighties and i'm traveling for three days and aaaaaah i'm afraid i won't finish. it would be rotten to miss the goal by a few miles.
― Maria, Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
I need to renew my gym membership b/c it seems like in Chicago there are like only 20 days of outdoor running weather.
because the other 345 days are too cold.
― Jeff, Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
Figured might as well ask here - anyone dedicated to running but absolutely hate it? I go because I have a couple of friends who I can run with at a local track, but man, I haven't liked it anymore over the last year I've been doing this (though I stopped for about 6 months due to the cold weather). I guess I'm doing it for health or to cure boredom, but I thought by now I would be more mentally into it. Of course that I'm completely out of shape and can barely jog a quarter of a mile straight adds to it (mostly I have to walk, admittedly), but I feel more motivated out of masochism than anything else. It just totally feels wrong.
― Nhex, Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
then stop
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
do something else
Oh I hate. Every single step. I have some delusions of getting fit though. Ain't working though.
― Jeff, Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
I used to absolutely hate it, but I wanted to lose weight and feel better and have more stamina. And then it became tolerable. But then at some point I started liking it.
I will probably be back to the second stage when I start up again.
― you'rine school (Jesse), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't exactly enjoy the actual process but i figure that if it doesn't hurt it's not having any effect - like there's no point if i don't push myself and end up gasping for air and feeling like i'm about to die. and i REALLY enjoy the clear-headed and physically strong feeling i get afterwards, both immediately and in the next few days, and i'm not going to get to that if i don't go through the pain. plus it's a really virtuous kind of pain anyway.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'd say I like it around half the time, and the other half is what I have to pay to build up the stamina that allows me to like it. But I never know how I'm going to feel about it until I'm a couple miles in. (Also, I started running to lose weight, and it didn't really work! I lost like 5 pounds 3 years ago but my metabolism has totally adjusted to it.)
― Maria, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
this thread is making me feel guilty for how ridiculously long i've been using shin splints as an excuse
― thomp, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
has anybody ever heard of/tried Chi Running
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have now done a five mile run. thank you ilx
― thomp, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's weird, but running actually seems like a middling activity in terms of weight loss -- good insofar as it's easy to get out and do, but maybe not all that big of a calorie-burner for a beginner? I dunno.
I've totally slid backward on this, which is worrying me -- even taking every third day off or so, there are mornings where I can only get a few hundred yards before my knees or ankles go wrong or wobbly and I start worrying about injuring myself. Maybe I just don't have the joints for it. It is so frustrating, though, to go out in the morning, ready to go, and have your knees cut you off before you can even break a sweat, instead of the couple miles you were hoping for.
Should I be doing leg exercises to strengthen and stretch everything in the meantime?
― nabisco, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Or get your gait looked at, at the running shoe store?
― Enemy Insects (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
You should always always stretch, always. Someone who's more of an expert can say when that shd be -- I think stretching is more beneficial in the beginning-middle of a run once there's actually blood flowing to your extremities, but only a quick stretch to get the kinks out in case your hip or knee has locked up or whatever.
Do a full-out stretch for flexibility only AFTER your workout is done; loosening up all your tendons and joints could make you MORE injury-prone if you were going to keep working hard after.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, gait analysis is on the agenda (and new shoes), though I'd be surprised if it were that far off, since up until recently I could manage a mile or two at a time -- I actually feel like I'm going through and eliminating one weak spot at a time, like first it was shins, then they strengthened up and it was thighs, then they strengthened up and it was foot pain, then that passed and now knees.
― nabisco, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
(I think I'm okay stretching-wise -- I'm just wondering if I should be doing leg lifts in my spare time or something, to strengthen up around the knees)
― nabisco, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
new shoes helped me a lot when i was having knee pain--they were just old
― harbl, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
also yes, do lunges etc. because weak quads are a source of knee pain also
― harbl, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i will pick up running again next week. i am frustrated at myself!
― harbl, Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
i really really should do gait analysis. every time i start running after eg a 2-week gap, i'm basically limping for at least a day afterwards with that stabbing pain in my right foot that i mentioned upthread - but if i run a few days later and keep it up, it just stops happening. i stretch too but probably not "properly" but nothing too terrible seems to have happened yet :/
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
q.
are all the ppl who have recurring pain problems with running in this thread all people who have taken it up in their 20s/30s?
― thomp, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
I had no pain when I was a regular runner in my early 20s, but now I can't get up and walk to the subway without having foot pain of several different types. Currently battling another recurrence of plantar fasciitis in one foot, but even when that's gone, everything else will still ache.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/health/nutrition/25best.html?ref=style
― Jeff, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
yup only took it up in my 20s. apart from that occasional stabbing pain i don't have any other serious issues though, esp not the knee ones, and i'm not even that professional or careful when i run. that said i don't run much more than 8k twice a week.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
took it up/down in my 20's, the last jag in november or so i got persistent but manageable soreness in one foot. i randomly experiment with too many different strides i think
― is juiceless??? (tremendoid), Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
I generally like the solitude of running, but recently I've been thinking about joining a running group. There are a ton of them in Chicago. I'm not interested in any social aspect, but maybe it would give me some extra motivation to run more regularly.
― Jeff, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
3.65 miles today
― Jeff, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 00:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ok, I lost my little running mind today. Got in one of those trances where I couldn't stop. I haven't looked at my gps map yet, but I'm sure I went at least 5 miles. Two things I've been doing differently recently, 1) slowing down. I've found I get more satisfication out of miles rather than pace. It just feels better when I pull up a map and see all the area I covered rather than seeing I can't get any faster than 8-9 min a mile. and 2) have no planned routes. Basically I've started running around just turning down random streets and parks. It keeps things interesting and it is nearly impossible to get lost on the north side of Chicago.
― Jeff, Thursday, 2 July 2009 23:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ended up running 6.24 miles.
― Jeff, Friday, 3 July 2009 00:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
that's awesome jeff. i love running to explore, and not worrying about pacing makes it much more fun. i'm trying to do it here in northern iceland this summer, but i am SO not used to running up and down hills and gravel, it's hard on the knees.
― Maria, Friday, 3 July 2009 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
argh my shins have started hurting when i run again since this thread was last live :(
― thomp, Friday, 3 July 2009 22:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
3.4 miles today. Felt good and I don't seem to have any nagging injuries.
― Jeff, Saturday, 4 July 2009 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
ran the last 3k today in a fucking torrential thunderstorm
on balance it was a negative experience but definitely ~bracing~~~
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
ran 4 miles the other day but hadn't run in a few weeks, so i've got a couple days of soreness before i run again. i'll hit the same route again this weekend for sure.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 17:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's kind of amazing to me how being really sore from running doesn't affect biking at all, different muscles etc.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^^yeah, that's why triathlon bikes are designed the way they are
― bentley cadence (gbx), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'll run through virtually any stiffness/kinks/tightness/exhaustion/discomfort, but if was experiencing the kind of pain that marathon dude in the Times article was feeling, I'd stop immediately and get my ass to a doctor and not fuck around trying to run nine miles gimping away.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 17:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
After my latest mileage increase, I believe I've developed a case of runner's knee. It's just one knee and I feel ok, just walking along, but as soon as I step up or down stairs, I get this searing pain just below my kneecap. I haven't tried any physical activity beyond walking since it happened. Very discouraging.
― Jeff, Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
ugh yeah running on rocks/gravel is terrible...i found a great secluded & quiet trail area along a river near me but long stretches are rocks and gravel and it destroys my feet + knees and plus u cant go at a very quick pace at all..
ran on the treadmill 2day and feel good
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i had a tiny blister for a couple of days this week that was really awkwardly placed - could barely walk - and its was annoying to have to curtail my routine esp since the weathers been so nice
― i, yobot (Lamp), Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok i started running again for the first time since moving 2 months ago. i'm trying to do it in the morning, which has always been hard for me but it's so hot and humid here it's impossible to run during the day. it's amazing how fast you can get out of shape but i keep telling myself that means you also get in shape fast. i like running.
― it works, i have done it and it is fun (harbl), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Although I haven't ran since I hurt my knee, I am now able to walk up and down stairs without pain. I've also played tennis several times without pain. I think I'm ready to jump back into it tomorrow. The problem is that I need to stop myself from running 6+ miles again, because I'll surely just re-injure myself.
― Jeff, Thursday, 16 July 2009 23:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I went to see my podiatrist today to get fitted for new custom insoles. She said I need new running shoes, since I've had my current ones over two years. Doctors orders, I must spend money.
― Jeff, Saturday, 18 July 2009 02:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
5.07 miles yesterday, with my knees killing me halfway through. They seem to be OK this morning though. We'll see how this turns out.
― Jeff, Monday, 20 July 2009 13:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I want to take up running but how do I start? I am RUBBISH at endurance sports, even breathing properly (one side of nose is fuxored which often means breathing through my mouth),... BUt I rrreally want to take up running. :-(
― Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Monday, 20 July 2009 13:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
I did my usual run (11 km or so), then didn't run for about a week, then was out of town for 2.5 weeks, ran once while I was away (but at a slower pace for a shorter distance), and now all of my nagging injuries (left hip in particular) are mysteriously gone! Hopefully I haven't summoned some bad karma by typing this, and won't fall and break my leg tomorrow. In the past, three weeks without serious running wasn't nearly enough to heal anything.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 20 July 2009 14:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Nath, it's easy, this is how I would start: decide on a route in a location you're familiar with (e.g. the 2.5 km running path in a nearby city park), get a comfortable pair of running/exercise shoes, START RUNNING, begin at a comfortable pace (don't try to be a hero), concentrate on finishing the route and do not worry at all about your speed, STRETCH, go home and drink nice tall glass of water or juice.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 20 July 2009 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
training for my first 10k!
My knee was getting pretty fucked for a while so I gave running a rest and it took ages for it to fix itself. Stupidly I started running again while it was still a little iffy trying to use this ChiRunning technique which promises injury free running and, well, it has actually speeded up my recovery I think. I've also found it really good because it gives me a proper posture to focus on when running (I've always had a deranged, loping walk that doesn't translate well into running form) and it means that when I get a little out of breath or tired on long runs I just focus on getting the posture correct instead of worrying about keeping going or focussing on the stitch/cramp/shortness of breath. I've been finding it a really good motivator for the day though, just being able to get up and get out.
Still does anyone have any good tips for improving speed over such a distance, I haven't really been pushing myself but I'm averaging 7 minute miles which would be pretty rubbish for a race, is it unreasonable to be at 6 minute miles in three weeks time. I know I should be running shorter distances than I am to get my speed up but when I'm only going on one run per day It feels like a waste to just be running 3 miles. Is two runs a day pushing it for a novice do you think?
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 14:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
I want to mention how great Ascent is for run tracking. I sync it with Ascent mobile on my iPhone as well.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 12:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
I haven't really been pushing myself but I'm averaging 7 minute miles which would be pretty rubbish for a race, is it unreasonable to be at 6 minute miles in three weeks time
That's a huge improvement to make in such a short space of time! What I would suggest is for the next two weeks, concentrate on doing one run per week where you're running at your target pace for a decent part of the run. Build in a 2 or 3 miles of hard running into your usual circuit and go at a good 7 minute pace for the rest of it. Take it steady for rest of the week, concentrate on putting your real effort into the one session of fast running so you can give it your best. Take it easy in the days leading up to the race. You'll be surprised how much just the simple fact of being in a race improves your speed too, just as long as you don't go blasting off too hard at the start.
― Joerg Hi Dere (NickB), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 13:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, that's one thing I'm worried about, getting too nervous, tearing out straight away and being out of breath by the time I reach the half-way mark. It would be horrible to be slipping back really badly towards the end.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
hav just received a foam roller via ups - so excited - will report back
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
in the "making friends with your enemy" dept, i am trying to be able to run 2 miles. today was my first day and i feel ok. i am starting with the run 2 min- walk 2 min repeat 10x formula for a week, and then increasing as i can. i am not out of shape nor am i overweight, but running has always been tough for me.
wish me luck.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
what is a "foam roller" ice cr?m?
― blobfish russian (harbl), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
I still have to wait a couple of more weeks for my new insoles to come in. Then I'm getting new shoes. And my podiatrist gave me better anti-inflammatory meds. That coupled with traveling the rest of this week, I'm just going to take time off to rest my knee. Once all of that is done though, I will run. RUN.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
And I'll probably over train and hurt myself in a whole different way.
went running this afternoon on a back road in rural uganda. the children were completely and utterly baffled. like why the fuck would you do something like that ~on purpose~
― ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Friday, 31 July 2009 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
cuz there was no treadmill available right
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 July 2009 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
Do despite not running for the last two weeks, having excruciating knee pain, and needing new shoes and orthotics, I signed up for another 5K. This one is on Thursday. I did run today, to the running store to pick up my race packet. 2.95 miles at a very leisurely pace.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 00:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Also, I'm trying Kinesio Tape on my knees. It felt good, but came off after 2 miles. I think I just didn't apply it right.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 00:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
i can run for 3 minutes without stopping or walking now. this is an achievement for me. go ahead, laugh at my milestone. i won't hear you. 5 minutes is my next milestone, then 10. after 10 i imagine it all seems like no big whoop?
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 01:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm thinking of dropping £60+ on shoes at the place with gait analysis - my dodgy knees are beginning to ruin my running, and they have developed this terrifying crrrrunch-click noise.
After three months of running I feel like I've made good progress, but I'm finding it hard to know how much pain to tolerate, when to rest, and when pushing it will actually strengthen rather than damage my legs.
― 60 watt, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 01:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
anyone recommend a place in ny to get my feet/gait fitted for the perfect running shoes
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 01:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've failed to do knee strengthening exercises every day. I dunno why I find these such bitter medicine compared to running of all things
― 60 watt, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 02:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Six minutes feeling pretty easy the first time and really hard the fourth time. Getting better, though!!
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Sunday, 16 August 2009 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
ice cream, are you in brooklyn? if so, i really recommend jack rabbit in park slope - they really know their stuff.
Did 8 miles each in Prospect Park on Sat / Sun, and felt pleased that I've adapted to the heat. As it is prepared to end... still, Fall running is the best.
― paulhw, Sunday, 16 August 2009 19:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
See:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/jackrabbit-sports-brooklyn
― paulhw, Sunday, 16 August 2009 19:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
cool man will check it out thx
― ice cr?m, Monday, 17 August 2009 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
btw had badd knee tendinitis for the last week n a half suuuuxxxxxx
icein and pill poppin like crazy
― ice cr?m, Monday, 17 August 2009 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
read about this thing ChiRunning a couple months ago in a sunday supplement, and as a way of avoiding injuries it seems pretty awesome. I've been practicing it for a couple months (it's tough to learn but it has definitely improved the distances I can run remarkably quickly) its basically a lot of stuff about improving your posture while you run, and while there's a lot of stuff at the beginning relating it to Tai Chi which you could skip if you like I suppose, I think the practical stuff about giving you directions on good posture are really good and anybody starting running it would probably be good for getting you into a good routine straight away. I especially think that because it gives you a big boost of "oh, I didn't think I'd be able to run that far" achievement at the beginning, is a good incentive to get going because it doesn't feel like you're starting at the bottom so much. I know I'm stanning for it but I'd be interested if anyone else has used it.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
link?
― ice cr?m, Monday, 17 August 2009 19:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.chirunning.com/shop/home.php
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
I just dled this pdf of the book tho http://rapidshare.com/files/132503543/chirunning.pdf
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
bought it to have afterwards
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
also the thing I read it in was Catherina McKiernan who is a fairly well known runner in Ireland talking about how she thought it was just practical good advice
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 19:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
how does one learn to run?
i started this a while ago but then i got super into my gym routine and forgot about the running.
― tehresa, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
well, 1st must learn to walk
― jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have heard this
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am really good at elliptical but i don't know how to transfer that onto the streets.
also maybe i should let fucked up toe heal first but i don't want to?
― tehresa, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
thx 4 pdf homes xp
― ice cr?m, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
basic premise is, you should lean into your run because then you just have to pick up your feet as you fall forward and you're not really using any energy at all, also, keep straight but relaxed, also, let your chi flow, man.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have been following this beginner's program: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-261--9397-0,00.htmland after three weeks, i can run for 8 min straight without stopping or walking. AGAIN i realize this is a meager accomplishment for many of you, but for me it's progress.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
no well done, kinda stalling and not been so motivated, but I got up early and ran today and I have had way more energy.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i'm impressed!when i started a while back i would make myself run 1 block, walk 1 block, repeat. but then i upped my gym stuff so on the way home i'd be a lot more tired and get distracted and feel scared and clumsy and ended up just walking home.
― tehresa, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I find increasing my speed much more difficult than length but I'm trying to incorporate bursts of sprinting into my run
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
also, have tried harrassing a number of ppl into being my running buddy, none were interested.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
today was the first day i had to run in the gym, but when i am outside i try to set a goal in the distance and then tell myself that i CANNOT STOP until that stop sign way up there. it helps that i live right by the lake and have lots of different routes if i so please. i also keep track of the minutes i have been running using my ipod and whatever song is playing.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
"also, have tried harrassing a number of ppl into being my running buddy, none were interested."
Get a dog!
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Note: don't get a pug.
my dog is so fucking lazy, I couldn't even walk her half the distance I run without having to drag her the second half.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
Get a less lazy dog!
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
my dog is going to be a great running partner as soon as i can run as long as he can. until then, i have to focus on my improvement. soon he will come along.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
I wd recommend the pdf I posted earlier La Lechera
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok i will dl and read it
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ok, since I last posted:
Ran the Elvis is Alive 5k a week and a half ago. Finished in something like 28 minutes, which wasn't bad for a few thousand people trying to run on the lake front path. I spent most of my time dodging other people. So many people dressed up as Elvis were faster than me though.
Got new custom orthotics. Just comparing them to my old ones shows how much they had broken down, I'm glad I finally got new ones. Since my insurance covers them completely, I just be getting a new pair every year.
Got new shoes tonight. I tried on six different pairs, but settled on the Adidas Adistar Ride. I liked them because there were more form fitting, but still had a lot of cushioning. I hate for my foot to move around in a shoe. And hopefully the extra cushioning will keep my knee probably away.
Regarding running form, it is something I had to work on a lot. When I first started running, my feet were hitting the ground hard. It was almost like I was stomping down the street. I have to focus striking first with the heel then rolling down to the ball of my foot. It's slower to run that way but it is easier on my feet, knees, and hips.
Since I seem to be running about the same speed all the time, I'm going to try a practice 5K, but after every mile, walk one full minute. I'm curious to see how that affects my time.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
My knee injury seems to be under control now I switched to running on the flat (doing laps around a lake). I did 10 miles (my longest ever) at a slow pace yesterday without any pain at all, and a fast 5k today. I think I will try to build up distance and pace this way before I have another go at hills. Maybe the Chi running book will inform me about form for hill-running, thanks for posting.
― 60 watt, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 01:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
and after three weeks, i can run for 8 min straight without stopping or walking. AGAIN i realize this is a meager accomplishment for many of you, but for me it's progress.
when i first started running regularly i remember being fucking thrilled at something like this - well done, keep going, it gets better &c
when i am outside i try to set a goal in the distance and then tell myself that i CANNOT STOP until that stop sign way up there
yup this was v effective for me too - once i reached the sign i always had a random burst of relaxed energy and found i could keep going for a bit more, which felt great.
just had a good run, later in the day than i'd planned so had to deal with far too many ill-mannered walkers/cyclists on the towpath. worst was a cyclist behind me on a narrow bit of the towpath - there was another runner coming towards us so i went to one side, he went to the other; instead of slowing for the two seconds it would take to pass each other, the woman on the bike barrelled STRAIGHT INTO HIM without even trying to slow down, like literally knocked him down. wanted to shout "cunt" after her but too out of breath :(
a few minutes later some dude who was just walking along started randomly running alongside me, keeping pace even when i tried to speed up to get away from him - it was so weird. told him to fuck off.
god, people.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow that sounds like a horrible run
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha in terms of actual running it was ok, kept a good pace up and did the full distance i usually do - maybe all the ill-mannered dalstonites took my mind off the effort!
honestly i just don't get why people act that way though...towpath etiquette is neither complicated nor arduous.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
Quick 2 miles today, first time in new shoes and new orthotics. 7:48 the first mile, rested for about a minute and a half, then slowed down to 8:58 the second mile. It's hotter out there than I expected.
― Jeff, Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
just started running, fed up with being pudgy and generally unwell. four miles, every other morning before work - taking an even 45 minutes right now, but it's only been a fortnight.
turns out it's quite rewarding, mentally speaking, although my body is more uh sore than lithe. your quick results, give them to me!
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Friday, 21 August 2009 15:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have to say that once you get to the point where you're not in horrific pain for a day after you go running, it does start to make you feel amazing.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 21 August 2009 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i'm looking forward to that. Fuckin' knee.
― sample rants or ?BURNS?. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 August 2009 20:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
also, highly addictive, I can't go tonight and I feel all wrong about it, can't wait to go tomorrow morning.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 21 August 2009 20:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
You're damn right about the addictiveness. Have got to the point (once again, after a long lay off) where I'm running almost every day and totally looking forward to it beforehand. Have been here before though and this is normally the stage where I overdo it and either get injured or ill, so I'm trying to go steady.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 21 August 2009 22:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, when I started this I ran every day for two weeks and my knee couldn't take it first off.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Friday, 21 August 2009 22:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran 2 miles again yesterday. And I ran it in EXACTLY the same time, 16:41. How frustrating, you think I could have pushed for at least a second improvement. We'll see what I can do today.
― Jeff, Saturday, 22 August 2009 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
It was a different route too, so it's not like I ran the same time on the same path.
2 miles yesterday and 3.8 today. That's 4 days in a row that I've ran, which is probably my best streak in quite a while. Also, I noticed that I've run more miles in 2009 than I did in 2008.
― Jeff, Sunday, 23 August 2009 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
Also, I ran my first mile in 7:27 today, which is the fastest mile I've ran since June 08.
― Jeff, Sunday, 23 August 2009 19:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
Went out for a long one today. Kept it slow, just wanted to cover some miles. I live half the way up a horrible hill, and if you want to get out into the countryside, you basically have to keep going up the hill for about a mile right at the start of your run. It's always an off-putting prospect, but it's good in a way, cos it makes you start off really conservatively. You just try and relax and pay out your energy slowly otherwise you're going to gasping for breath after just a couple of minutes. Was out for 1 hr 45 mins, brain totally tuned out, listened to a couple of albums on my iPod, no-one else around but me and the rabbits.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Sunday, 23 August 2009 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have tentatively decided to try out la lechera's week by week thing starting this monday because i think if i don't make myself stick to some sort of plan i will think about running a lot more than actually running. i need different shoes, for sure, but i can get away with the ones i have while doing the 1 min run 2 min walk thing right?
― tehresa, Sunday, 23 August 2009 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, if they're comfortable enough to walk a decent distance in, they'll probably be fine for short runs.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Sunday, 23 August 2009 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
sept 1 is doctor visit; I'm real uncomfortable about all this.
― sample rants or ?BURNS?. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2009 04:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I was planning on getting up early to run this morning, but I just couldn't move. I'll try tonight. It will be my 5th day in a row. I'm actually surprised I haven't injured myself again.
― Jeff, Monday, 24 August 2009 12:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
hey guys guess what -- today i ran for 15 min straight! i never would have thought this was possible.
tehresa -- it did get easier when i got better shoes, but the first week was fine with my old shoes. i seriously cannot believe that i actually enjoy running. as it turns out, the better i get at it, the better i like it. btw i looked at that pdf book but tl;dr unfortunately.
brain totally tuned out, listened to a couple of albums on my iPod, no-one else around but me and the rabbits.this sounds dreamy, except running for almost two hours would probably put me into the hospital.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 24 August 2009 12:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow, that's awesome! how long did you say you have been at it?
i survived the 1 min run 2 min walk x 10 (or maybe 11 bc i lost count at the end so i threw in an extra set just in case i was only at 9 instead of 10). it really wasn't that bad! we'll see if i feel the same way on wednesday, but by the end i felt like the min of running was going by quickly and the walking was taking forever. seems like this technique of not running until you are totally spent and instead stopping, regrouping, and going again is more encouraging than the former approach.
― tehresa, Monday, 24 August 2009 22:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i also just generally do a lot better with a plan/structure than trying to guess at it.
― tehresa, Monday, 24 August 2009 22:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Figgester, how far did you get in 15 min?
― Jeff, Monday, 24 August 2009 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
tehresa -- i've been at it for 4 weeks. no signs of giving up yet.
jeff -- not sure, because i'm not measuring distance, but i do know this: what used to take me 30 min has had to be expanded. i think i went from my apt to the bottom of loyola beach (pratt/sheridan) in the 15 min, maybe a couple of blocks further. i'm guessing it was about a mile? slow and steady, that's me.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah that's right, a 15 minute mile. but i ran a mile! i have never done that before in my life without walking for at least a little and/or feeling like i was gonna die. in gradeschool i was an active (even hyperactive) skinny kid, but when it came time for the mile run (presidential fitness) i always got a cramp, gave up, and walked. redeemed!
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 00:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
ha, pratt/sheridan = my home, 2000 AD
― nabisco, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 00:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
2.5 more miles today. That's 5 days in a row. Tomorrow is my day off.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 00:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Four miles today, after my day off. Not bad. I felt like I had gas in the tank when I quit too, which bodes well for running tomorrow.
― Jeff, Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
hooray i conquered day two of this thing, which was somewhat of an achievement after training session/abs/cardio earlier today (i screwed up my scheduling!). i feel good. might die tomorrow. we shall see!
― tehresa, Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm surprised how much my stamina has increased. I ran another 4 miles today in just over 35 minutes. Two weeks ago there is no way I could have done that.
― Jeff, Friday, 28 August 2009 00:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
Also surprising, my favorite song for running is Tokyo by The Books.
― Jeff, Friday, 28 August 2009 00:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Starting up again after the field season, when i seriously reduced distance for the first month and then just didn't run at all for the second...i'm nowhere NEAR where i was in June, and just moved to a new city without any routes i actually enjoy yet (it's very flat and gridded, which i hate, so i'm pessimistic). it'll get better eventually, it always does....
― Maria, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Never really listened to the Books, though things I've read have always sounded interesting. Have just recently been listening to lots of ambient stuff while running, nice to let my brain just drift off rather than be driven along on by beats. Am totally into going really slowly at the moment though, wanna keep building distance.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Friday, 28 August 2009 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Four more miles today. That seems like my distance.
― Jeff, Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
have just devloped a few new routes that incorporate about a half mile of running on railroad ties. keep it lively
― crabRCISE (gbx), Saturday, 29 August 2009 01:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
i feel like i am getting better at this. today i threw in some small hills and stairs.
and then i lolled when the last song the genius gave me was
because i took 'ankle injuries' out of the gym list since i thought it would be bad luck.
― tehresa, Saturday, 29 August 2009 03:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha! uh oh.
― Maria, Saturday, 29 August 2009 03:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
but i am going to use it as a sign to go get new shoes :)
― tehresa, Saturday, 29 August 2009 03:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
I ran 10 miles today, which is certainly the longest distance I have ever ran in my life. I really should have stopped at 8, but I was feeling good and wanted to see if I could hit 10. Just after that I slowed waaaay down:
1: 8:432: 9:383: 9:584: 9:425: 9:466: 9:537: 9:318: 9:509: 10:1210: 11:16
Basically just shuffling my feet for the last mile, my knees were starting to ache.
― Jeff, Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hey, nice work Jeff! Have a rest tomorrow eh?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
for real dude. take a break! i am basically just shuffling my feet all the time and i'm proud about it!i only ran 2x this week because i had a terrible cold and went hiking in wisconsin this weekend, which i figure is good enough for exercise.
the good news: i kind of missed running! looking forward to starting up again tomorrow. i hope i haven't lost any ground, but it's no big deal either way. the weather is lovely and perfect for outdoors exercise. (60s and sunny)
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
I am gonna get upppp. And go run. Right now.
ps wtg jeff
― iatee, Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
times piece on thin soled running shoes http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/business/30shoe.html mentions chirunning in passing
― ice cr?m, Monday, 31 August 2009 00:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thanks for the link. Have just finished reading Born To Run, which also gets mentioned in the article. Got a bit annoyed with the style it was written in, but if you just want to geek out on running, it's fine. Gets right into that whole discussion on the advantages of minimal shoes/barefoot. Made me want to try those FiveFingers things, if only to freak my wife out with.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 31 August 2009 08:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've been hearing a lot about those lately, it makes me think maybe i should switch it up for my next pair of shoes. i've been buying the same model of large, heavily cushioned shoe for at least three years, maybe something just a little more minimal would be good to try (there's a long way from where i am to fivefingers though).
a day or two one of my roommates decided we should run a half marathon this winter. i'm excited because it'll give me some motivation and companionship for running, and it's a manageable distance for me, but i'm nervous because my roommate is a former cross-country runner who's done a couple of marathons (he says he's out of shape, but i really suspect his out of shape is not the same as mine). we don't have to run the actual race together, but running together at all while training may present problems.
― Maria, Monday, 31 August 2009 15:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
sorry guys, i just can't fathom wearing those shameful toe shoes
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 31 August 2009 15:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
Did a 5K in about 20:30 yesterday.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 15:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
those shoes are weird!!
i started week 2 of that thing this morning. i'm scared of the 3 min sets on wed!
― tehresa, Monday, 31 August 2009 16:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
don't worry! you'll do it and it will feel good. seriously.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
and if it takes a couple tries, that's fine! i'm all in favor of running being fun and not too grueling.
i'm hoping to head out for a 4-5 mile run with the roommate today, if we can fit it in between running errands on campus mid-afternoon and making dinner. i should probably push for a shorter distance, actually, because i have no clue whether i can keep up with him yet.
― Maria, Monday, 31 August 2009 17:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
this morning this guy just whooshed past me and then where i turned around and came back, he kept going. later when i was still on the way back, he whooshed past me again. i felt so lame! but w/e he was tall and i am new? ehh.
― tehresa, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I wouldn't feel lame. There are always going to be people faster than you (unless you are Usain Bolt or the like.)
― Alex in SF, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
honestly. been working on knee strength, flexibility etc for about 5 months now...
i don't know if i'll ever be able to run 5K again w/o runner's knee :\
― Thought you were regal/Now who needs "Boston Legal"? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 31 August 2009 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
I like having people run past me, I use it as motivation - "that guy thinks he's better than me, eh?"
― iatee, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's just that it was the same guy twice! but also i had done a little loop while he went further and came back. but still. sigh. yeah ok motivation. but also i felt soooo slowwwww and like i was not actually running at all!
― tehresa, Monday, 31 August 2009 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
doctor tomorrow at 2pm
― write about this significant and fascinating and comlex artist (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 03:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
the "that guy thinks he's better than me, eh?" statement works esp. well for me, cause whenever I do run past someone, I think I'm better than them...and I just assume everyone operates the same
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 03:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
A lot of people pass me. Eventually I pass them back though.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 10:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
I had to cut my 4 miles down to 2 on Sunday because my knees have taken to stabbing me with PAIN at every footfall and now I can't even walk down stairs without limping.
Having gone from 0 miles a day for my entire life to 4 miles every other day immediately, for the last 3.5 weeks, I suspect I've just overdone it. I'm also probably not warming up properly, and everyone's telling me my bought-in-2005 (but barely used) trainers are almost certainly too old and won't be giving me the necessary support.
London trainer shop tips? Warm-up/warm-down tips? How-not-to-be-a-running-noob tips? Right now I feel like I'll never run again, and that's GUTTING because I've been loving it and it's doing me real good.
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
London trainer shop tips?
Where is it you live?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
Or work?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 13:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
Live West Norwood, work Paddington, can travel anywhere really. Went to http://www.runningshoeslondon.co.uk/ but it was lame.
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 15:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
charlie, are you stretching?
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hmm, can't think what's in those immediate areas but you could try Run and Become near Victoria station or one of the Runner's Needs, maybe the Holborn one?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 20:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
Whatever you do, talk to the staff and describe your problems and you should get a feel for whether they're listening or not.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
prescribed a month's anti-inflammatories, told not to do weight bearing exercise or running until i feel better and they're trying to get me to do PRP therapy?
http://www.platelettherapy.com/index.html
― write about this significant and fascinating and comlex artist (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 23:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i missed this but what originally happened to injure you?
― tehresa, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 23:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
First run after my 10 mile Sunday. Whoa was I stiff. I only went two miles, but went pretty fast (for me).
― Jeff, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 23:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
charlie, i know i am a noob, but noob-to-noob? why push so hard? real painful injuries are way worse than having people pass you/running slowly/running shorter distances. for real. also they are expensive.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 23:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
tza: just runner's knee/tendinitis. I finally got past my plantar fascitiis and lost my shit. Started running 40 mile weeks and blew out. Need rest and aleve now i guess.
― write about this significant and fascinating and comlex artist (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow, 40 mile weeks are pretty intense. the most i've ever done was 28 and it's a good thing i had nothing else going on that whole week! i hope you recover quickly.
― Maria, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 01:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
it was like two weeks, one at 35 and one at 40. I was basically doing five mile runs every morning. It felt great, I gotta say. Want to go back to that, but I'm gonna have to work my way into it.
― write about this significant and fascinating and comlex artist (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 04:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok so i sort of failed tonight but i kept going! i attempted to do the 3min sets on the way home from the gym, and ended up having my ass handed to me by the hills on sets 3 and 4 where i could only run about 1:45 or 2min and walked the rest, then walked the min of walking time. but by the time i got back on flat terrain, i was able to handle the 3min runs again and they felt ok. i think i will re-attempt this one on friday and try to master it before i move on to the 4min sets. or should i not be a pussy?
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 September 2009 03:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'd try it again before moving on, just because i'm a little ocd that way. hills are tough, too, so it's good practice running them.
― Maria, Thursday, 3 September 2009 13:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
Last two runs, 2.95 miles yesterday and 4 miles today. Feeling pretty good.
― Jeff, Saturday, 5 September 2009 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
I was thinking about doing this "Northside Colleges Historic Run" tomorrow. I'm hesitant to run in such a social way though.
― Jeff, Saturday, 5 September 2009 22:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
looks kinda fun!
― tehresa, Saturday, 5 September 2009 23:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
i mastered the 3min sets last night. i am supposed to go for 4min tonight but it is supposed to storm terribly. nervous.gif!
sigh. just biking for the next month i think.
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 6 September 2009 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Six miles today. Slow pace, but nice run.
― Jeff, Sunday, 6 September 2009 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
i did the 4 minute sets last night and felt really good, but definitely feeling some shin tenderness today. now i am paranoid. i know it's a normal noob thing but now i'm all freaked out.
― tehresa, Sunday, 6 September 2009 21:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Six more miles today, a little faster than I did yesterday.
So you know, I gps track all my runs. I walk in today, sync my run and Jenny comments that it was a "pretty" run. It was mainly along the shore and had lots of curves. See below:
I think next run I'm going to try and write my name with gps. It will take some planning but it shouldn't be too hard.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 00:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
After 12-15 years of not doing this regularly, I've now decided that I need to start running again, just to keep up with my beer intake. I should probably get new shoes.
― kingfish, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 00:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
that IS pretty! will you write your name in script or print it legibly?xpost
i am going shoe shopping on wednesday :)
― tehresa, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 01:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
Wow Jeff, I'm a bit jealous! That looks like a beautiful run along the shore and grassy areas. Have fun writing your name :)
I'm so so glad it's cooling down, my runs are suddenly a lot more pleasant! I'm going to try to work back up to 25 miles a week in the next four weeks after my midsummer month off, so far I am not having any trouble with it (although last week was only 12).
― Maria, Tuesday, 8 September 2009 01:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran an informal 5K last night just under 26 min. That's my fastest time ever, but I don't really count it because I had to pause at crosswalks. Also, that put me over 100 miles for the year. Most if that has been in August and September, but still an accomplishment.
― Jeff, Friday, 11 September 2009 12:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran a very miserable 6 miles yesterday. Which is a shame because I felt pretty good going into it. I feel like I need a goal at this point, specifically one that isn't speed or time based. I think a half marathon would be a good distance. I've already ran 10 miles casually, so I should be able to finish.
Still waiting on that runners high. I've yet to experience it. At least I've been injury free fir a couple of months now.
― Jeff, Sunday, 13 September 2009 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jeff: Nike Plus is a statwhore online game that you play by runningI'm doing 25 minutes on the stationary bike and 25 on the elliptical while I take 25 more days worth of Celebrex. Hopefully it won't be too cold to run then.In the meantime: NFL Season + TIVO = I bought a reasonably cheap stationary bike in the hopes of pedaling while watching games - http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-Active-Upright-Exercise-Bike/dp/B001AS0ZHO/ref=pe_32160_12535910_as_txt_4/yay for free shipping
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 September 2009 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
i got new shoes! the guy was super helpful. also they had me run on treadmill w/ a camera behind and then did frame by frame analysis of how my foot moved to figure out good shoe choices. wow. they even said i can come back after a few weeks if these don't work out.
i feel good running but i have not moved into the 5 min sets yet bc i'm trying to take it easy/not do too much too soon to avoid pains. so i am behind schedule. but i'd rather be behind than injured, right?
― And I find myself shouting... BHOOT!!! BHOOT!!! (tehresa), Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
definitely, getting injured sucks and is hella frustrating.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
maybe i'll do the 5 min sets but not 5 of them in a row.
― And I find myself shouting... BHOOT!!! BHOOT!!! (tehresa), Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
gonna try to start running again tomorrow, had to abort plans a couple months ago because of severe leg pain, but l.a. heatwave would've interfered anyways. now it has cooled off so i'm hoping my ancient legs are up for it.
― velko, Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
I like the idea of the Nike+ community, but I'm pretty committed to my Garmin Forerunner tracking. If there was a way to input all that information, I would totally be down.
The other running community tracking websites are really mediocre. Mapmyrun, The daily mile, garmin connect, etc all really suck.
― Jeff, Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
but i'd rather be behind than injured, right?yes! geez, yes. i've been sort of stuck at the point where i can run for 10-15min, usually about a mile, then i need to walk for like 90 seconds, but then i can do it again. what i can't do is run for 15+ minutes without walking at some point.
but that's ok. whatever. as long as i am still enjoying it, i will continue to do it. i try to end each run on a positive note.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Sunday, 13 September 2009 21:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jeff: http://www.e-runners.com/works with Garmin
― That is awful. I am sorry. Help it up. That is mean. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 14 September 2009 01:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran another practice 5K tonight in 25:21. Certainly my fastest time ever. 8:06, 8:20, 8:10 for each mile. I'm happy with the consistency. I think I can get under 25 min.
I used a new setting on my Garmin which doesn't show me the time, just a countdown of the distance and the pace. I liked it because I didn't check it as much. Now I can use this one as a baseline and then run against a little virtual Jeff. The watch will let me know how far in front of or behind I am. I like gadgets.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 01:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
is treadmill running cheating?
i had to tonight bc it was too dark out. i decided to test myself to see how long i could run and i did 8:15, then walked 4 min, then ran 10 min! i felt accomplished! somehow i feel like i wouldn't be able to do this on the street, though.
― And I find myself shouting... BHOOT!!! BHOOT!!! (tehresa), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 04:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
If you're doing a treadmill, give yourself at least a 1.5 grade to simulate real world ground.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 05:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
protip! thankig u.
― And I find myself shouting... BHOOT!!! BHOOT!!! (tehresa), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 06:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
Didn't even realise he was doing this but, wow, amazing achievement:
After 1,100 miles and 52 days, Eddie Izzard has finishing line in sight
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 10:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
dude sounds completely insane!also, minor protip: don't gorge yourself on cake and icecream when running multiple marathons, it is not a good energy replacement system.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
how is that possible!? burgers mid-marathon?! a;sldkgj. he should be dead by now, right?
― And I find myself shouting... BHOOT!!! BHOOT!!! (tehresa), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
man I've been following this thread for a while and been reluctant to chip in cos my efforts at running are always abject failures: I tried to start that interval program linked upthread about a week ago, got 5 minutes into the first run and was so dispirited I turned round and headed home... butttt I didn't know why I was so bad or why I hated it so much, cos my fitness levels (lung capacity whatever) are ok to good (I play football once a week) and I've always been an ok runner growing up and my dads always ran... today I signed up for a gym (first time ever woot) and on the treadmill ran 3miles in 20 minutes barely losing breath, I know that's hardly amazing but I was feeling pretty good afterwards considering how my road running always crashes after the first few minutes
so I guess I'm saying hi! and go me!
― cozwn, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 17:22 (2 weeks ago)
apparently not enough because, after three weeks of four miles every other day - feeling better and better, noticing my body slowly changing shape, losing chubby cheeks, gaining in stamina while noticing some clearly impact-based pain in my legs - i had to stop dead halfway through a run and hobble home, so painful were both my knees.
how tf does one stretch a knee in preparation for running?
meh.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 00:50 (1 week ago)
This is a good question. I think it's because last time I tried running regularly I was doing about 2.5 miles a time and it didn't feel like enough (ie I couldn't feel the benefit). So I used mapmyrun.com to plot a local route I liked the look of, and it came out just over 4 miles, and I tried it and made it and carried it one and then this (two weeks, no exercise).
Told my doctor what happened (I was seeing her for another reason) and she told me to stop for now, till the knee pain subsided, and try non-impact (ie swimming, which I don't love) and furthermore banned breast stroke, the only stroke I do at all well!
I definitely need new trainers, as about 17 friends have now told me.
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
Charlie, static lunges and toe touches are reasonable ways to stretch out.If you're having knee pain severe enough to stop a jog or that affects you when you're not running, see a doc asap. It can get much worse.Maybe time to hit the pool or bike for awhile.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
coz, that's impressive! i would just say be careful. but maybe i just jealous bc i couldn't do that! also, the first week of that interval program was the hardest - it seems to get easier to go longer times as you go, so don't give up! granted, i'm only 3 weeks in, but...
also i heard you should stretch post run, not before. right?
― And I find myself shouting... BHOOT!!! BHOOT!!! (tehresa), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
light stretches before; longer after... though the common wisdom on that fluctuates about once every five years.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
If you're having knee pain severe enough to stop a jog or that affects you when you're not running, see a doc asap. It can get much worse.
my knee pain has now entirely subsided but for nearly a fortnight after the event described above I hobbled everywhere and couldn't walk down stairs without holding the bannister (climbing stairs = ok though).
my doctor told me a physio was unnecessary as it's v likely to be a general unfitness-to-fitness issue rather than a specific "injury" as such. i think i understand that.
i have read in the past the results of a test that shows, it the great scheme of things, people who warm up/warm down get just as many running-based aches and pains as people who don't. of course, i can't find the thing now, for google has failed me.
― Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
man I've been following this thread for a while and been reluctant to chip in cos my efforts at running are always abject failures: I tried to start that interval program linked upthread about a week ago, got 5 minutes into the first run and was so dispirited I turned round and headed home...
This sounds similar to me when I started running again. First run was so awful I had to sit down halfway through for a smoke. I think the thing is that you can just go off way too fast, cos I just took off down the street like my arse was on fire and was totally wrecked by the time I reached the end of the road. Before you start running as an adult, you just have these memories of tearing around as an indestructible and energetic kid, and it takes a while until you can judge your pace properly. This goes for running intervals too - you still have to run hard at a sensible pace.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, the going down stairs thing is emblematic of runner's knee, basically tendinitis. rest and anti-inflammatory helps.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
so the bonus is that with my 0 incline cheating last night, i have 0 shin tenderness today.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 21:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
I had the best run ever today! It was just lovely out and I went out for about five miles (and autumn is my favourite month, when the light gets all watery) and I had some Basic Channel on my iPod and I just took it easy but I think I made really good time (amazing how just relaxing on the uphills saved me so much energy for the flats)
― plax (I know, right?), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
I am doing this organized 3.5 mile run tonight which I am kinda intimidated by. There were dudes who finished last year in like 16 minutes which is basically bonkers fast as far as I am concerned. I'll be very happy if I can do this in 24 minutes.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
24 minutes is a really good time!
― plax (I know, right?), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
I know! That's why the idea of someone doing it in 16 is so intimidating!
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
16 is nearly a four minute mile though, it's not really "jogging enthusiast" territory
― plax (I know, right?), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think you are getting to the heart of why I am finding the idea of this race intimidating. I run with my dog (who is a bit of a slow poke frankly)!
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
what site lets you log runs using google maps? sanoodi doesn't, does it?
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
has anyone used the nike sensor thing? i don't have the $$$$ for a fancy garmin deal. and probably i'm not good enough to justify that expense anyway.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i would like a gps eventually and i think it would help but for now i have to click on the map by myself. the runnersworld log is *awful*. you always have to try twice before your route saves! but i like how it keeps track of total mileage and stuff for you.
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran about 4.5 miles today! not as big of a deal as i had thought it would be. am guessing that i averaged around 10-11 min per mile? gettin' better.
this is after taking about 4 days off, btw, so i feel confident that i am actually getting stronger because this didn't feel like a huge burden, just a moderate to difficult run (for me).
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have been tracing routes on gmaps pedometer but obv you can't save that. it's fun but hard. i was looking at mapmyrun.com yesterday and it is a disastrously designed site.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
figures. :(
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
bikely.com is nice and simple
― sonderborg, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think this http://www.runningahead.com/ might do what i want
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
Wait why can't you save gmap ped routes? It appears to have a save option.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
you can save them to revisit them but you can't use it to automatically log if you do it twice or something.
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
I cannot recommend a GPS watch enough. I love love love my Garmin Forerunner 305. You can probably find one for around $150 these days. I'd go with it over the newer 405. The 305 is bulkier, but you really don't notice it after a few runs. I refuse to run without it.
After my last practice 5K, it felt like I was running a few notches below sprinting the whole way. That's good and bad. Good in that it's 3 to 4 minutes faster than I could run the same distance 2 months ago. Bad in that I can't imagine myself getting much faster.
I'm going to try and do some fartlek training to improve my speed. I need to work out the ratios I want to do and program them into my Garmin.
Someone above mention stretching. I am vehemently opposed to stretching. Refuse to do it. It's not going to prevent most running injuries, it takes too much time, and is booooooring. I'd talk myself out of running before I got done stretching. For runner's knee, I read that you need to strengthen your quadriceps. I did that for awhile with leg lifts, but found it equally as boring.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha. i always say "i'm going to stretch later" when i get back from a run but i never, ever do. i pretty much agree they won't prevent injuries but i still feel like i should just to have better posture and to feel less stiff all the time. maybe later.
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
"you can save them to revisit them but you can't use it to automatically log if you do it twice or something."
Isn't that what excel is for? ;)
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have been stretching my calves right when i get back because my front steps and slope are kind of perfect for it.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
for me, probably bc i am new, it does help with stiffness.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
yes...but i like to have it add the route and have it add to your total or weekly mileage by itself without opening another program. also portable so if i wanted to i could log into it from another computer. runningahead appears to do that. it also keeps track of shoe mileage, though i don't know how many miles are on my current shoes. xxp
― harbl, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh i should start now then since my shoes have about 6 miles on them so far!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
did another few of miles on the treadmill today and have signed up a running partner to go jogging w/. :)
― cozwn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
have signed up for runningahead; harbl do u know if it is nike+ friendly?
― cozwn, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
hmm i do not. it says you can do gps import but i don't know if nike+ makes the same type of output.
― harbl, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
i did treadmill again today bc i was already at the gym and taking it easy after over an hour of circuit training. i did 3 6min sets with 1 min walking in between and about 4 min walking after (and then the walk home up the hill). tomorrow morning i will go outside again. it's so much prettier!this page has some images that are part of my normal route :)
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
! today on my run i saw this thing http://c.imagehost.org/0378/Tower_in_Druid_Hill_Park.jpg
― harbl, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
that reminds me of peru!
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
reminds me of a rook
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's called the moorish tower. i just had to look that up because i had no idea other than "giant chess piece." also in that park: safety city.
― harbl, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
pls to devise obstacle course running route through safety city!
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 01:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ended up finishing the 3.5 miles in a little under 24 (so yay me!)
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
good job!
coz it looks like that site is only garmin friendly. do you use nike+?
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
do you need to also have nike shoe and an iPod to use nike+ i don't really understand how it works
― plax (I know, right?), Thursday, 17 September 2009 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
does it just tell you your time and mileage? if so that would be easy enough to type in, right? i just need to use the map because i can't estimate the distance myself.
― harbl, Thursday, 17 September 2009 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
one thing that's shitty about living in the countryside is that, while running is lovely, no traffic fresh air etc, it is impossible to incrementally increase your distance without having to repeat parts of your run because there are no blocks that you can just add on, merely large ring roads.
― plax (I know, right?), Thursday, 17 September 2009 15:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
you don't have to have the shoes. i think there are lots of hacks ppl have come up with to not wear nike shoes.
i think it tracks speed, distance, calories, and goals (if you set them/use a set workout) and then turns it all into pretty charts when you sync.
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
sunscreen.
the one i wore today made me feel really gross and irritated my skin (neutrogena sport, which i hadn't had issues with in activities like hiking). not wearing sunscreen is not an option for me but i am going to have to do more daytime running as it's getting darker earlier and earlier.
― tehresa, Friday, 18 September 2009 04:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
what do you use?
first outdoor run today w/my new jogging partner. 2.1 miles in 16minutes. was really feeling it 1.75 miles in, what with the hills and driving glasgow wind but didn't need to stop any. I'm happy with that for a first attempt :D
― cozwn, Saturday, 19 September 2009 10:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
That's a pretty good pace for a first run, especially on hills. Not surprised you were feeling it!
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Saturday, 19 September 2009 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
so in the uk you run in miles but do everything else in km? i'm confused.
― tehresa, Saturday, 19 September 2009 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
miles = the "english" system isn't it? i don't understand "stone" though
― harbl, Saturday, 19 September 2009 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
trying to make myself go running now. can't.
never done anything in km in my life thankyouverymuch yankee
― cozwn, Saturday, 19 September 2009 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
def didn't get out of bed this morning. hoping i can do it after work tonight. hoping i don't blame the light misty rain for not going...
― tehresa, Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
I tried some intervals yesterday. A whole new kind of suck. I was going to do 3 and 3, but I was so out of breath after the first hard run that I decided to throw in a 1 min walk. Ended up going 5.44 miles.
10 min slow jog3 min hard run1 min walk2 min jog3 min hard run1 min walk2 min jog3 min hard run1 min walk2 min jog3 min hard run1 min walk2 min jog3 min hard run1 min walk2 min jog3 min hard run1 min walk10 min slow jog
― Jeff, Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
got bad cramp w/ 5 min left. i hate that! i always cramp coming down the long hill because i don't stand up straight.
― harbl, Saturday, 19 September 2009 18:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Kinda drunk and I'm going running with my neighbour in six hours or something. It's gonna be hhoooorrribbbblllleeee. Shoot me now.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
Long, tiring 8.77 miles today. I tried something different though, I took the bus downtown and then ran to the end of Northerly Island and back.
― Jeff, Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
i miss running
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 20 September 2009 01:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
bashed my knee climbing today and now running hurts :(
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Sunday, 20 September 2009 02:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran this morning but it was kinda weird. i didn't have enough time to go as far as i wanted, and i had some shin soreness right after that was weird since i haven't had any shin soreness in at least a week. but now they feel ok and i'm wondering if it might have been some combination of wearing heels all day yesterday and running approx 30 min after getting out of bed today. anyway, i just did some gmaps pedometer and estimate i was at 6.5mph which is faster than i have been before (which is not actually fast, i know), so at least there's that. i think i might check into that nike thing though so i can get more accurate timings/distances than my guesswork.
― tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 18:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
maybe your shins were just a little tight and running losened them up.
― plax (I know, right?), Sunday, 20 September 2009 18:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
I always have knee/foot pain after wearing heels, running or no running. Betcha it's that. I also tried to run this morning but it was uuuuuuggggghhhh slow. I think I need to eat a little and drink a glass of water first or something.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Sunday, 20 September 2009 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah my best venture out last week was on my day off when i sat around, had some coffee, and woke up for 2 hours before i left the house to go run.
― tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 20:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm telling myself to get up an hour early tomorrow and run in the morning instead of tonight...that didn't work the two times i planned it last week, but it has to start soon, when we change the clocks i'm not going to be able to get home in time to run before dark! do you guys have any tips on getting yourself out of bed in the first place?
― Maria, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah that is what i am seriously struggling with. i have never been a morning person but because it was cloudy yesterday, it was too dark to go out by the time i got home at 7:30. it will only get worse soon. then i run into issues like this morning where i have to cut it short because i hit snooze for an hour instead of getting up on time.
― tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
i *am* a morning person and i can't do it either. i know it's possible because when i used to do sports i got up really early and didn't even need to eat first. but it had more to do with being made to do it than being good at waking up, so maybe run with someone else? tbh i prefer running alone though :(
― harbl, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i used to do morning swim practice but i guess it was just bc it was bc that was when practice was. i like running alone. it is good for my head. and i don't think i am good enough to run with someone else yet! must figure out some way to trick myself into getting up.
― tehresa, Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
take out the extra it was bc
it was just bc it was bc that was when practice was
^^^ lol
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
u got flow
first jog after nearly two months of knee tendonitis yesterday - did a mile real easy just to see how it felt - no particular ill effects today yay
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 13:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^ pretty much the same for me. took it easy cuz it's HOT out in la today but no trouble with my legs
― velko, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
considering how much better I feel after a run, its kindof annoying how long it takes me to convince myself 2 go on 1 u no?
― plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
this morning i felt like i did not hit my stride til the end, which sucked, bc by that point i didn't have enough time to keep going bc i had to go to work. gah. i have to get all this timing worked out.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plax (I know, right?), Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:52 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
i have this problem every day
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
also this is how I feel about swimming
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
fuck it it's gonna rain i'm going tomorrow :(
― steamed hams (harbl), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
4 runs in 3 days - one long one on Sunday, a short one yesterday, two hilly five milers today. So tempting to go and do another long one tomorrow cos my legs are starting to feel great, but really I should ease off a bit. Have entered a few races in the spring, really need to build up slowly and not go too nutty now.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Tuesday, 22 September 2009 21:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
has this ever happened to anyone: i stopped running and was walking home (about a half mile) and my ears got all clogged like i was on an airplane. i could hear myself breathing but everything else was fuzzy. maybe it wasn't related to running at all haha
― steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
So, my weight has finally come down to a threshold where I can enjoy running a couple of miles. Has anyone else read Christopher McDougall's Born to Run (on the ultramarathon running Tarahumara tribe of Mexico's Copper Canyon and the perils of athletic shoes)? The Daily Mail ran an extract in April and the story was picked up by New York Magazine, Time Magazine, and the New York Times.
I bought a pair of the Vibrams mentioned in some of the articles in July before they sold out due to the media attention, and like them a lot (though they distressed my sister to no end, she didn't want to be seen walking near me). As for running, heelless shoe do require a much different gait, but I only have sore skin on the balls of my feet (after a week), no bruises per se.
So has anyone found a good article detailing the counter argument in favor of Nike, Addidas, New Balance et al, responding to this?
― Drove away his head. (Derelict), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
nope
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
but i know at least five people that are running barefoot on a regular basis, and really enjoying it
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh weird, those shoes freak me out. esp since i was fitted for running shoes based on gait/pronation analysis and my shoes have added heel support! in fact, my right heel/achiles gets really sore if i am even just walking around wearing unsupportive shoes lately, so i'm terrified of the barefoot thing.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
would not run barefoot in baltimore
― steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Slept through my running window again this morning. Can't go in the afternoon, either, no free time before 8 or 9 PM today (yeah, I'm taking a 10 minute internet break right now, SO WHAT?) So depressing.
I think maybe the counterargument is just that regular running shoes do no, or at least very little, harm...?
― Maria, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
dont think so. i think part of the argument for running barefoot is precisely the opposite: running shoes encourage an biomechanically "improper" gait that emphasizes heel-striking as opposed to landing on the balls or in a neutral position
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
heel-striking shocks the system, so to speak, instead of taking advantage of the natural shock-absorption built into the arch and joints of yr foot
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
iirc barefoot running reduces stress on the ankles and feet but shoes can help w/stress if u r overweight or have a poor gait naturally? i read a bunch about this 3/4 years ago since in ca it seemed vaguely feasible to do this and ive always had trouble with running shoes but at the time most of the studies where cautious in declaring it better
also iirc nike has (had?) a line of running shoes meant to mimic running barefoot
― as the hart pants after the water brooks even so my blashphemous soul (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
i believe it but at the same time i'm not in a hurry to run barefoot or buy barefoot-like shoes
― steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
i believe it too but im kind of a sucker for these stupid claims tbh i think the real counterargument is the first time u step on broken glass or w/e
― as the hart pants after the water brooks even so my blashphemous soul (Lamp), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Can't you try out the style in regular shoes? If I've understood my hurried reading of some random articles, part of the change is leaning forward so that you fall onto the ball of your outstretched foot, rather than holding the body upright and back?
― that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
i made a similar new scientific discovery that high heels encourage a biomechanically improper gait but no one listened and the nyt didn't write an article about it either ˘\(o_º)/˘
― steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
Laurel: I'm just returning to casual jogging after a hiatus of a decade, but from my experience this week, the real difference is taking shorter steps, and a faster gait. At no time does the knee ever reach its full extension. Its a bit of a light footed squat, by comparison to the running I tried over a decade ago (which killed my knees).
― Drove away his head. (Derelict), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
^ this is quite a good little review of the FiveFingers thing
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I used to get this after running all the damn time! Have no idea why, but it was very annoying. Always assumed it was some sort of weird snot thing. Haven't had it for ages though thank god.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 20:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
hey derelict, i think i just realized i am taking pretty short steps, too! and i have no knee pain :)
sometimes i walk better in a heel bc i have really high arches and flats, if not supportive enough, tend to really screw up my feet.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 21:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
I will OTM that all over the place.
― that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 21:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
maybe that's why i'm scared of the barefoot stuff. modern ladies flats are usually just slabs of nothing for the sole w/ a little fabric to cover your foot and they are really not conducive to foot health imo.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
nike free are their "barefoot ones"
― bring back all banned legends (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 22:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
syringes
― cozwn, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 22:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
the barefoot gait is pretty funny
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran barefoot on treadmill so they could videotape/look at gait and it was weird.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
its not just toe striking its also ginger
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
do people ever sprint barefoot - doesnt look like itd be workable for intervals
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
stanford track team trains barefoot, so yes
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
feels faster sprinting barefoot
― cozwn, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 23:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm skeptical of the whole barefoot running trend. It goes with the idea that anything that is considered "natural" is considered right, where as the unnatural is wrong.
Naturally, feet come in all shapes and sizes. Some are conducive to running, others not some much. You have club feet, high arches, low arches, other gait issues. It's just the genetic hand you're dealt. I like wearing well cushioned running shoes and custom orthotics. It's working out great!
― Jeff, Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
given that we mostly walk around in shoes that give us biomechanically improper gaits, i just am unconvinced that running in shoes does any more harm than most of everyday life.
― Maria, Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
i know that i get monster knee pain from walking for even 15 min in thin-soled ballet flats, so i'm just going to figure that the extra cushioning of my shoes is helping.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
The forces involved are so much greater when you're running though. That's especially true if you're landing heavily, which excessively cushioned shoes do little to discourage. I think barefoot running is about running lightly and letting all that engineering in your feet act as a spring. I love the idea of barefoot and I did find the arguments in Born To Run fairly persuasive. Haven't done it though, mostly because of the obvious risk of stepping on something nasty. Also, although we might have evolved as a species to run long distances barefoot, we never had to contend with a surface as unforgiving as concrete paving slabs for mile after mile.
What I am doing to try and strike a balance is using a very neutral offroad shoe with a lower than average amount of cushioning and I'm doing 90% of my running on trails. I'm also thinking about posture as I move, running lightly, landing more towards the middle of my foot and not stomping about on my heels quite so much as I used to do. Haven't had the knee pains that I used to get and I'm definitely waking up less creakily than before, but maybe that's just me getting fitter.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Thursday, 24 September 2009 07:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
has this ever happened to anyone: i stopped running and was walking home (about a half mile) and my ears got all clogged like i was on an airplane.
I think that is related to air flow around your ears, for example, on a very windy day, the passing air can depressurize your ears (this sometimes happens to me even if I'm just walking on the street). But if you *are* running, and breathing heavily, then your jaw position and/or style of breathing can vary the air pressure (both positively and negatively) in your sinuses. It's kind of like how a scuba diver needs to "equalize" their sinuses, but while you're running you're concentrating on other things and basically forget to do this.
Anyway, it doesn't take long for your ears to "pop" back, so there's nothing to really worry about.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 24 September 2009 08:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah they were back shortly after i got home, it was just weird. i also just remembered i had covered my ears for a minute while walking home because the trail is by a train station and a freight train was braking overhead! that's probably what did it.
― steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 24 September 2009 11:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
the surfaces we run on really do make a difference. that makes me wonder if there are any trails within several miles of my current apartment...asphalt all the time is not good for you.
doubtful as i am of the benefit of barefoot running, i do wear pretty heavily cushioned massive shoes and will probably try to switch to something lighter when they wear out, just to see how things change.
― Maria, Thursday, 24 September 2009 12:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
I haven't ran any in 6 days, and really am having a hard time encouraging myself to do so. It's partially because of the weather. Summer is gone. It's going to be a miserable winter. Plus too many 10 to 12 hour workdays.
― Jeff, Thursday, 24 September 2009 22:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
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― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
on grass on grass they sprint on soft soft playing fields of grass
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 24 September 2009 23:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
The only time I ever take my socks off is when I shower. I certainly not going to go barefoot outside.
― Jeff, Thursday, 24 September 2009 23:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran today after not going for a week. I set my virtual partner for a 28 min 5k and beat him by a min and a half. Not a personal best, but it did feel good.
― Jeff, Saturday, 26 September 2009 20:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
did another run yesterday before the midday swelter came on. legs kinda sore today.
― velko, Saturday, 26 September 2009 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
6 miles today. Only 9.10 for this week, but that's ok. I just have to remember that I don't lose everything if I take a week off. In fact I'm running a little faster. I was hoping to get 75 miles in September, but it looks like I'm going to come in between 60 and 65. It will give me something to shoot for in October.
― Jeff, Sunday, 27 September 2009 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm honestly impressed by how little you do lose when you take time off - maybe speed's affected by longer breaks, but endurance is hard to lose. A couple days ago I ran 9 miles due to being locked out of my house and having nothing better to do...it was the first time I'd done more than 5 since June and surprisingly it felt absolutely fine!
I'll share your October goal - think I'm at about 50 this month but having no problems working up, so 75 is where I'd like to be.
― Maria, Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have not been able to run since thursday and i am sad and tired :(
― can i lust (tehresa), Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've picked up running in the last days of May, when on holidays in France. I've managed to do it three times a week mostly, although there have been 'episodes' of two weeks with no running altogether (due to work, or feeling meh).
When I started out, I did so a bit too enthusiastic, straining my weak right knee. That is now gone though, luckily, even though it took some time.
Right now I'm on 4 to 5 miles per 40 minutes, on average. It's not a lot, I know, but it just feels so good to do... I never could have imagined running to be such a great feeling, such a 'cleansing' experience.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
one more week on the celebrex to go. Knee feels just fine, but I haven't tested it in the slightest. Muscles in my legs are real tense though.
― three input girls just wanna have fun (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i should make a mileage goal for october so i will feel some kind of obligation. it's hard to run.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 27 September 2009 19:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
Here are my goals for October:
*Run a sub 25 minute 5K. My fastest time currently is 25:22. I should be able to do this. I'm running two officially organized 5K's in October, so it would be nice to do it in one of those, but I'm not limiting myself to official races.*Run 75 miles. 18.75 miles a week. Doable, but probably going to be unpleasant at times. I've only gone over 18.75 miles a week once. I'll just have to bust out some long runs in there. I know I'm going to have to fight the weather too.*Run 13.1 miles. 10 miles is my current longest, might as well see if I can do a half marathon. Would help a lot towards my 75 mile goal too.
― Jeff, Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm
This is a great calculator. I put in my 5K time and it gives you all sorts of times and paces.
― Jeff, Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok now i need cool weather attire advice. how do you stay warm but not overheat?
also do you guys run in light rain? i feel like if i'm going to keep this up i need to figure out tricks for running safely in a little bit of rain or i'll end up only running once a week for the next 9 months.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 00:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
due to the fucked up status of my knee ive been working the elliptical trainer - its strange - i feel i may have forfeited my right to be called a man
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 03:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
tehresa, i always underdress because i tend to get very warm running - for me, it's t-shirts and shorts until it hits maybe 40 F, and then sweatpants and a long-sleeved shirt, if it's REALLY cold i wear tights underneath and a warm vest on top. but i almost always do wear a headband in the winter, cold achy ears are the worst.
and i do run in light rain if it seems that it'll rain for a while, so i can't put off my run for a day...cell phone in a plastic baggie, avoid busy roads, and there you go. sometimes it's a drag though.
and you guys, this saturday i'm running in a race for the first time! a charity 5k like most of them are. i expect i'll be on the slow end of the pack, but it gives me an excuse to make a trip back to boston. maybe fun too!
― Maria, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
one mile jog with girl and dog was fine. heartened!
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
yay :)
i did rain run tonight but only 1 mile bc i got paranoid about slipping and came back home like a wimp but actually it was kind of neat. i don't usually feel that hot temperature-wise when i run, but i do sweat a good deal so i worry about weird clamminess or sogginess or whatever. i guess that's moot if you're running in the rain anyway. but tonight i was cold and wet and it was not pleasant.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
check out underarmor maybe?
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
running in bad weather is the best!
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 12:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yass! Love running in rain and wind!
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 12:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Don't mind the rain at all, but the wind can just go and die tbh.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 12:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm always afraid my gps/music is going to stop working in the rain.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 13:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've never had that problem (though I hardly run with music on). Hard wind can be an annoyance though when you're soaking wet, I'll give you that Nick. But hard wind when it's dry isn't a problem for me.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
i hate running in the wind too, it's a popular excuse for me. rain is ok except i don't wear contacts ever.
― steamed hams (harbl), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 13:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
ziplock bags are your friend.
― treyf shrimpz (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ziplock bags don't save your earphones. The last rainy run I did was along the seafront, with the rain really piling in sideways from the sea. My seaward ear filled up with water on the way out; turned around when I reached the end, same thing happened to the other ear with the sound getting dimmer and dimmer. Was listening to Can's Future Days, which is a pretty aquatic sounding record anyhow, but by the end of the run I was only hearing squelches and gurgles, and the occassional drowned yelp from Damo Suzuki.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ohh I must try running to Future Days soon! I am sorry it cost you your earphones, but I wish there'd be a way to experience hearing the disintegration of the record you just described!
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Best thing is that my phones worked again after they dried out.
Any UK people done any of these Parkrun things yet? Have honestly never heard of them before, dunno how they passed me by. Sound like they could be good fun (and it's free too):
http://www.parkrun.com/
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm just going to run with a plastic bag over my entire head.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
Sounds like a plan.
Does anybody actually own any underarmor? Is it worth the ridiculous price compared to, say, long underwear and a pair of sweatpants from Wal-Mart?
― Maria, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
have been failing to run lately
moving to york soon, have set myself goal of 'be able to run full circuit of city walls' by end of month. actually i just checked that and it's only 5k. i need a better target
― thomp, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
I love my Under Armor. I have some of the holy crap it's cold weather gear. I won't wear it unless it's in the low 40s. It's warm and I love the compression. It feels like I'm in Tron.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
hahaha. i have a hiking base layer - should i be looking for something similar to run in? or are they interchangeable?
― tehresa, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 16:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
i run in sweats a hat and gloves down to abt 20F and then fuck it im not going out there - dont generally run in the rain tho
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
I started out my Runtober with a 7.12 mile run. I ran home from work, in the rain. I had plastic baggies over all my electronics. I looked like an idiot. Only 68 more miles to go.
― Jeff, Friday, 2 October 2009 00:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
i got that nike+ thing about a week ago (went with the hack where you enclose the sensor in a plastic bag and then just duct taped it (actually gorilla taped it) to the tongue of my shoe with laces crossed over it - has held fine every time even if it looks a little silly). i like the tracking aspect, but it's definitely a $19 gadget and not a fancy gps. you can't really dissect your runs, which is weird because it graphs your speed for the whole run, but won't let you go into detailed analysis. obv the data is there, so why can't you access it? or maybe i just haven't figured the website out yet.
anyway, it's been kind of fun as a tracking/challenge device. yesterday i ran a mile without stopping (after 2 shorter warm ups between which i took a little walk break). today i set it for 1 mile to start out and decided to keep going once i hit that. i was going to shoot for 2 but i got to the end of the loop i was on and was v v tired so i stopped at 1.84. still, kinda happy with myself but my shins are not especially. i think tomorrow i will rest and sat i will do 7 or 8 min sets again.
― tehresa, Friday, 2 October 2009 02:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've just started running a fortnight ago, after doing NO EXERCISE WHATSOEVER for he last, I don't knoow, 10 years? I've been doing that couch-to-5k run thing, and I'm finding it about right eg. I'm broken at teh end of the run, but any less would be almost too easy. I can't say I'm enjoying it yet, but I'm hoping that once i get over the "absolutly unfit" bqarrier I'll be able to start liking it a little more.
Has anyone got any noobie tips?
― NotEnough, Friday, 2 October 2009 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm glad the pacing's working for you! I think the more you run, the greater proportion of your runs are kind of fun, as opposed to totally unpleasant, but the unpleasant ones are the price you pay for the good ones, right?
Haven't run for the past couple days because I want to be rested for my 5k tomorrow, and I'm still pretty sore from my 8 miles Wednesday. No clue why I'm so sore from that, but I'm hoping taking it easy is the solution.
― Maria, Friday, 2 October 2009 13:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
i realized this morning it's not really my shins that are sore as much as my lower calves? i need to learn anatomy better. anyway, i don't know if that's a good sign (that shins are actually ok) or if my calves should have been accustomed to this stuff by now...
― tehresa, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
that happens to me sometimes. prob because you ran continuously for a longer time than usual you got tired and started to run badly. walking in intervals is good because it gives you time to recover so during the running time you run properly.
― steamed hams (harbl), Friday, 2 October 2009 18:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
you are probably totally right on this bc i went from doing 7 or 8 min sets to 9.5 min on wed and then 17.5 min of continuous running on thurs. probably too much but it was fun!
― tehresa, Friday, 2 October 2009 18:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
9.20 miles today. Good run, I felt much better this time than the last time I ran 10 miles. Faster too. However, when I was walking home, I was freezing my ass off because I was soaked with sweet and it's 60 degrees with the wind blowing today.
― Jeff, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran in a 5k this weekend! Unfortunately, I ran most of it with a friend who's a little faster than me, and miscalculated my pace when she ran ahead at the end...had to stop at 2.9 miles, vomit, and get going again, which was pretty embarrassing and ended up giving me a slower time than if I'd just taken it a little tiny bit easier. Anyway, overall it was fun, especially it being in warm rain :)
― Maria, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
awwww. good job finishing after all that, though!!
i can't get this calf thing right... yesterday they were getting really tight, especially as soon as i stopped running and started walking. then super tight right when i got home but not so bad after 30 min or so. today they're a little sore. does this mean i need a break or that my form is horrendously bad?
― tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha how did you keep running (even if it was .2 miles) with puke in your mouth?? i ran just now and got a mouthful of gnats btw. gotta keep my mouth closed.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol ew
― tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
xpost that seems normal to me and probably will go away soon? i get tight calves if i run a few min cold and then walk, then it goes away after i'm warmed up.
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
stretch though, i should do that too
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
9.20 miles today. Good run, I felt much better this time than the last time I ran 10 miles
how often are u running 10 miles?
― лампа (Lamp), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have chronically problematic calves and shins - they act up from running basketball yoga walking or whatever - one thing i find v helpful when running is to stretch then do a slow warm up jog for like a mile then stretch again and start the serious run - in fact all the stretching and running ive done over the last couple years has really helped my shins and calves a lot - theyre in way better shape than before
bought some new running shoes today - looks like theyre made out of silver lava btw
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
pix!
thanks for the tip - i will try this.
― tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
np t - just be patient w/yr aching legs
got the nb 1224s @ century 21 for $60 - photos dont really do the tripiness of their surfaces justice
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 4 October 2009 23:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
ABZORB! ABZORB! SBS! ABZORB!
WELCOME 2 THE SHOOOOOOES OF TOMORROW!
― лампа (Lamp), Sunday, 4 October 2009 23:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have mizuno something something, they are pretty good
― steamed hams (harbl), Sunday, 4 October 2009 23:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
one day i saw this guy w/ these insane flourescent orange shoes and it was kinda distracting!!
― tehresa, Monday, 5 October 2009 00:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've only hit 10 miles once before. Since I'm trying to hit 75 miles in October, I've been trying to get as many long ones in while the weather is still passable.
― Jeff, Monday, 5 October 2009 01:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha how did you keep running (even if it was .2 miles) with puke in your mouth??
the embarrassment of doing ANYthing else would've been worse, that's how! and fortunately they were handing out water bottles at the end.
nice shiny ABZORB shoes!
― Maria, Monday, 5 October 2009 02:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Tehresa, I've had calf pains like yours in the past. gbx is probably gonna laugh his glutes off at my terrible grasp of anatomy here, but what I read about it was that the calf muscle is contained in some sort of sheath that's comparatively inelastic. As you start exercising, blood rushes into your leg muscles and they start expanding, but they're constrained by the surrounding sheath, and that's what the pain is. When you stop, the muscles relax and the pain goes.
Over time, your calves will adapt to running and the material surrounding your muscle will stretch. It takes a while though, so you really need to build up *slowly*. Stick to mostly running on the flat and avoid too much faster running. Ice packs should ease any pain if necessary. Of course you might have a totally different problem to this, but if the pain is going away quite quickly after running then you're probably not doing any major longterm damage.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 5 October 2009 08:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
There's some more detailed stuff on this thing here:
Compartment Syndrome in Depth AKA: Exertional Lower Limb Pain
As far as the discussion of surgery in the second half of that article goes, I know no-one who has ever needed that, so I think that's just the last resort for extreme cases.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 5 October 2009 08:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Gammon anyone?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 5 October 2009 08:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, October 5, 2009 3:57 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
my roommate last year had compartment syndrome (as a collegiate rower) and had surgery and both her calves AND her forearms
yow!
― butt sound insanity (gbx), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
wait tehresa do you have like *pain* or just stiffness/soreness? i have experienced the latter a million times because i get out of shape all the time (usually in the winter but other times too) and then get sore for the first couple weeks but it goes away after a day or two off. actual pain i have never had.
― steamed hams (harbl), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
my roommate last year had compartment syndrome (as a collegiate rower) and had surgery and both her calves AND her forearm
Did they do them all in one hit?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
not sure, actually! I'd guess I'd assumed they'd do it in one go, but I hadn't thought it out. They might've done a couple surgeries
― butt sound insanity (gbx), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
it feels like the muscle getting very tight/stiff, then when i stop running and walk it sometimes gets even stiffer? but then once i'm home it resolves in 30ish min or so. that happened saturday, i didn't run yesterday, and now i just have some minimal residual soreness about in the inner mid calf area. i don't want to overanalyze it too much and get all hypochondriac! and i'm not running huge long distances. i've been in pretty good shape (did not start running til after a good stint of cardio conditioning, strength training, and some weight loss) so it's not like my legs were all atrophied... and it's something that's crept up after about 6 weeks of running and wasn't there at first.
― tehresa, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
Be the best way to get back into your sport quicker, but you'd be a bit bolloxed in the interim.
x-post
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran 25 miles this weekend (3 8-9 mile runs) and felt smooth and good. This weather (in NY) is perfect - low humidity, breezes, Prospect Park emptying out.
― paulhw, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
There's also the weather factor ... my muscles stiffen up during colder months, and lingering injuries (e.g. tightness, small strains, etc.) seem to linger longer. And I'm not talking about freezing temperatures here -- I stop running outdoors if the temp falls below 5-10 deg C. I like to run when it's really hot though, for a variety of reasons.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
those are some decent miles Paul. Are you in training for something or were you just making the most of the nice weather?
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
t i didn't mean to imply you were out of shape! i just mean running is a different motion than other exercise and if you start doing more than you're used to you get sore. i'm noticing more stiffness in cooler weather too.
― steamed hams (harbl), Monday, 5 October 2009 16:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
no, it's true! it is definitely a different motion than walking/elliptical stuff i was doing before. actually the weather thing brings up a good point! i did a pretty decent distance wed but it was mid-day and in the sun, and i wasn't as sore afterwards like i was thursday when i ran in the evening and it was chillier. but i think there is probably a combo of cooler weather + maybe pushing too far too soon. gah. i am impatient/always want to do moaaar so i will have to figure out how to balance those two.
― tehresa, Monday, 5 October 2009 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
Making most of nice weather. I haven't run competitively in a few years - used to race half marathons but I used to get nervous, sick, injured cos of stress. now i just run longish runs by myself for fun. it's also about the only time i get extended music time to myself...
― paulhw, Monday, 5 October 2009 16:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
hi tza i am back to remind you to be moderate
i have been doing alright in my routine, running 4-5x a week but only in 30 min bursts. should i run for longer less frequently or just keep at it for a little while (almost) every day. i'm starting to enjoy going out in the early morning in the dark with my dog.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 5 October 2009 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
4-5/wk for 30 min seems like a good amount! but i am a newbie.thank you for the reminder :)
― tehresa, Monday, 5 October 2009 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
6 more miles tonight. That's really more than I should be run after working a 12 hour day. And it's turning cold. While it was in the 50's, it was breezy and the sun is waning quickly in the evenings.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 01:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
great running weather in la. legs still a bit creaky but best run in ages.
― velko, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
okay, i got to plan out my next three weeks to rehab.i will post a schedule here and see what y'all think. I wanna not blow out my knee again and get the last of the outdoor running in while the weather is not pure shit.
― "Keep Tweeting", Raged Roger The Kindly Hippopotamus. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh goody, "compartment syndrome". Another thing to add to add to the list of "Possible Reasons I Burst into Tears on 5th Avenue After A Parade" along with various definitions of shin splints! Suuuucky.
― that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Terrible weather for running here over the past few days, it's been bloody great! Chucking it down with rain most of the time, thick fog on the hills, the woods are all wet and smell of damp and decay, and it's dark as a pint of Guinness by 7.30. Still quite warm though. Managing to run to work and back every other day and ride my bike on the others. You feel like you've been hoiked out of a bog when you get into the office, sets you up nicely for the rest of the day I think.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've been enjoying morning running before the sun comes up. the sun is a giant red ball over the lake by the time i'm on my way home and it's totally rad.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
xp On the bright side, you don't need a shower after.
― that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh boy, I'm in that shower like gangbusters.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
you have a shower at work? i wonder what percentage of people have a shower at work. i have never even seen such a thing.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
we had a shower in the ladies' room at my old job but everyone thought it was weird and creepy and never used it
― steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
Really? I do work at a university and they're keen on getting people to bike to campus so there are showers all over the place. New clean ones with hot water and everything.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Gotta sit with a soggy towel by your desk afterwards though.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
Anyhow, nonchalant owners of curious dogs that just want to sniff your round legs when your running C/D?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
i guess the whole thought of being nude at work is really unsettling to me for some reason
dogs are c because they are cute
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's probably common at a college but this was an early 20th c. office building. it had been remodeled in the 70s or something, i think that's when the weird shower was put in. i don't think the hot water really worked in that building either.
― steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
People don't like showering outside their homes, in general I have a feeling. It IS a pretty vulnerable state, and schlocky horror movies not helping our mass consciousness about showers and/or being naked, here.
There's a shower in my dance studio, which is like having a shower IN A GYM, and no one but me uses it.
― that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
Dogs are awesome, but aiiieee, that frontal approach thing they do where they come charging straight up then just stand waggling crossways in your path. No dodging the advances a friendly spaniel.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
The work shower is better than our home one, I'm happy as bat in it.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
as a bat.
Yeah I was gonna say, showering at he gym is w/e. Have showered there nearly every day this week iirc
― butt sound insanity (gbx), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
gym showers are always great! good water pressure, temp, drain works right, etc.
― steamed hams (harbl), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
i love showering at gym bc i have to pay for water at home! also my gym showers are v v pretty.
― tehresa, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
meanwhile after a few days of quasi rest (i cheated and did a little bit of running on treadmill at gym yesterday bc i couldn't help myself) i think i have determined that it may be shin pain after all? i feel like such a hypochondriac but also i am kind of worried and frustrated bc i really just want to go runnnnnnnn outside and i can't.
― tehresa, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have a gym and showers at work. My employers want to make it comfortable for people to stay there as many hours as possible. I don't make use of any of the facilities though. I sometimes run home from work though, which requires just a quick change.
6.37 miles yesterday. Nice and cool. I felt like I could have gone several more miles. I'm at 28 for the month. Still on pace for surpassing 75.
― Jeff, Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Don't know how it compares with sites that other folks have been using, but http://www.goodrunguide.co.uk looks like an amazing site for mapping your runs and also logging them (also viewing climb profiles, keeping training schedules, checking out other peoples routes and all that stuff). Good for logging bike rides too. It's UK based - not really sure if you can join if you're abroad - but you can certainly map runs in the US and elsewhere, so might be worth playing with. You need to sign up to save routes, but you can take out a free trial membership to start with. It's definitely been designed by runners, the functionality is so good. Dunno why it's taken me so long to find really.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Saturday, 10 October 2009 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
Lots of graphing functions and stuff too, totally geeking out here.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Saturday, 10 October 2009 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
i finally had a 20 mile week! now have to work on going up from there, though - probably means running more often instead of much longer distances, though, i don't look forward to long runs like i used to thanks to living in a boring city. how i miss living near trails.
― Maria, Saturday, 10 October 2009 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
The Chicago Marathon is tomorrow. I thought I would run an (unofficial) half marathon in celebration. I'm previous long is 10 miles, I'm sure I can eek out another 3.1. We'll see.
― Jeff, Saturday, 10 October 2009 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
You should be able to do that Jeff, just start slow and take some snacks and water with you.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2009 06:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
I made it all 13.1. That's certainly not something I want to do every day. I finished in 2:04:54, which close the the time Sammy Wanjiru completed the real marathon today, 2:05:41.
― Jeff, Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
congrats!
― tehresa, Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
Good work Jeff! How are the legs now?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
Uh, they feel like they weigh about 100 pounds each. I try to stay light on my feet and not hit the ground too hard while I'm running, but for the last two miles it felt like I was stomping with each step.
Still can't imagine running a marathon though. Even though all types of runners seem to finish.
― Jeff, Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Haha, I know the dead legs feeling well! Good luck with that tomorrow...
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
BTW, if you keep progressing like you have, you would seriously be able to do that marathon next year, no sweat.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Well done Jeff! I know that feeling where all lightness and grace from your kick has disappeared into plodding. Are you aiming for a marathon as a concrete achievement? In terms of lifestyle / pain / non going mentally crazy, I prefer to run halfs for speed, cos it's a great distance, and one you can train at every day (a 45 - 90 min run is always good). The whole marathon, for me at least, I find a little straining, I get nervous, weird digestion issues, uncomfortable recovery etc. Having said that - if it's your goal, go for it! (Sorry if that looked negative - just saying that if you were happy today, the half type distance is one that gets better as you get faster, and a distance you can carry anywhere as you trian / travel etc).
― paulhw, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
I haven't decided yet if it is a goal for me. Right now I'm just focusing on increasing my monthly milage and a couple of 5k's I have coming up. And getting through the winter without lapsing into lethargy.
― Jeff, Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
Totally agree with what Paul says about halves being a better distance than marathons for all sorts of v. good reasons. But by God, I do want to run a decent marathon one day...
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Was a bit of talk on ChiRunning upthread. Not really looked into it before, but some of the videos on YouTube are quite interesting:
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
All sounds sensible enough, but has anyone come across any critiques of this method?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
what he's talking about in the first video is what happens when you run barefoot, at least according to ppl i know that run barefoot.
basically the discomfort of heel-striking makes you assume a more neutral stride, which means landing with your foot flat or slightly towards the ball. and always underneath, too
― a perfect urkel (gbx), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
Seems to be the way that the Road Runner does it too, must be something in it.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
I got passed by a guy with no legs tonight. Actually, he had a pair of those fancy bionic legs. It was impressive.
― Jeff, Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
Also, I took into account the 20 degree rule in which you should dress as if it were 20 degrees warmer outside. I had shorts and a long sleeve shirt on. What I failed to take into account is the lake front wind. It was alright after about 1.5 miles.
My calves are still sore from my 13 miles on Sunday. It may be stupid, but I want to try another 13 this upcoming Sunday.
― Jeff, Thursday, 15 October 2009 00:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Probably best to do a shorter one, just to give you a chance to recover properly, then go for it the week after. But I'm a great one for ignoring sensible advice like this.
Been trying to do some faster runs because I've got a 10k next month, first race I've done for quite a few years. Just doing it to gauge where I'm at, shouldn't really be too bothered about the time because I've been concentrating on building endurance, but I know I'm going to be a bit dissappointed if I'm all *that* many minutes outside my old pace. It's tough though, you don't realise until you start looking at your times just how much your cruising speed slows without any regular fast running. Think I'm going to have to start doing some reps once a week, really hard to force myself to do it though, so painful, so boring.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Thursday, 15 October 2009 07:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
I tend to ignore sensible advice as well. It does not help that I'm just not having too many ill effects from running. Every time I go out I want to go longer and faster.
― Jeff, Thursday, 15 October 2009 12:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
Smart run today, just a slow one along the cliffs, air was cool and still but the sun was bright. Birds were queuing up along the top waiting to launch themselves across the Channel for the winter. Listened to the 'Sky of Honey' disc of Aerial, took my time, did about 12 miles. Up again with the neighbour tomorrow, going out on the Downs, really looking forward to it. Man, I'm loving running so much at the moment.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Saturday, 17 October 2009 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran the Pumpkins in the Park 5K today. My goal was to get in under 25 minutes, but I made it in 23:48, which is a PR. I was basically cursing myself the whole time for making myself run hard. Regardless I got faster each mile, which is really quite amazing for me. Usually I'm a start fast and fade away type of guy.
― Jeff, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm really looking forward to a nice and easy longish run tomorrow.
― Jeff, Saturday, 17 October 2009 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Nice going Jeff, those short distances are really brutal. That whole feeling of wanting to puke as you cross the line... Must be doing some good, right?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 18 October 2009 08:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
Tell me about it. I lined up between the 8 and 9 minute milers. For my 5k next weekI'm just going to pace myself with the 7 minute milers to see if I can break 23 minutes.
After that I've got two 8k's. The "Turkey Trot" and the "Rudolph Ramble". Ha.
― Jeff, Sunday, 18 October 2009 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm amassing quite the collection of technical shirts by participating in all these races.
― Jeff, Sunday, 18 October 2009 15:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've got the "Mince Pie 10" coming up soon! You always get ugly and hueg cotton t-shirts after races in the UK, always go straight in the charity bag.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 18 October 2009 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran another 5K today, finished in 23:05, about 40 seconds faster than last weekend. It was cold and rainy, so not as many people at this event. I finished 25 out of 412. Surprising.
― Jeff, Saturday, 24 October 2009 21:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
This is in the fashion/fitness section, so make of it what you will
Dr. Robert M. Conenello, a sports podiatrist who tended to contestants of a multiday race in the Sahara. “A lot of them look at their toenails as useless appendages, remnants of claws from evolutionary times long ago. I’ve heard them say, ‘Toenails are dead weight.’ ”
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 26 October 2009 13:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
fully agree with this guy
“You know any sport has gone off the rails when you have to remove body parts to do it,” said Christopher McDougall, the author of a recent book about ultrarunning called “Born to Run.”
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 26 October 2009 13:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
GROSS
― harbl, Monday, 26 October 2009 13:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
dudes toenails are just dead weight no biggie
― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
do not want
― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
hating on toenails is the new hating on bacon
― Mr. Que, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
people fronting OMG LUV TOENAILS etc
― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
toenails are empty calories
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 26 October 2009 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm going to remove my toenails and replace them with sardines
― Mr. Que, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
that's a convenient way to carry foodstuffs when you're running
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 26 October 2009 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
time for a break
― Mr. Que, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've actually had part of a toenail treated so it doesn't grow because of a persistent ingrown toenail. This has not affected my ultra marathoning times.
I got to 75 miles for October yesterday, completing all three of my goals for the month. I'm not sure what I should do for the rest of the month, I'd like to run more miles next month, so I don't want to set the bar to high in a month that will have some crappy weather.
― Jeff, Monday, 26 October 2009 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
And October is over. My best running month ever. I can't wait to try and beat all my numbers in November.
Total miles: 100.01 miles
Number of runs completed: 17
Active time: 15 hours 5 minutes 12 seconds
Average pace: 9:03 per mile
Average speed: 6.25 mph
Average distance per run: 5.88 miles
Longest run: 13.1 miles
Shortest run: 2 miles
Most consecutive days ran: 5 days
Most miles in a week: 25.47 miles
― Jeff, Sunday, 1 November 2009 21:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
inspiring!
― tehresa, Sunday, 1 November 2009 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
siiiick! I'm going to start doing that w/cycling
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
ran tonight, just a quick two miles before dinner, felt good
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Nice one Jeff. 16 miler for me today in hideous weather - thick fog, rain coming down like bullets, and a furious headwind that felt like it was trying to rip the shirt from my shoulders. Last two miles were so bad, just wanted to lay down in a ditch to die. Knees are a bit shot, headphones have died of drowning again.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
I killed my Shuffle running in the rain the other night... It's the clip on version, so I had to order a refurb.
― Jeff, Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
This is me for most of October, think I'm missing the first week:
Runs Logged - 18Miles Logged - 129.9Time - 17:01:00Average Pace - 8:54Fastest Pace - 6:54Average Weight - 11st 3.6lb Average BMI - 21.4% Easy running - 68%Steady running - 20%Hard running - 12%
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
Obviously been shying away from faster runs, need to start working on that.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plaks (I know, right?), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
uh sorry
Hey, Plax is back! Hope things are going well.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
For November, I want to do more intervals and hills (well, hill. There's only one that's close to me in Chicago). Also, I think I could stand to be about 15 pounds lighter, but that ain't going to happen anytime soon.
― Jeff, Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Sure it will if you keep putting in the miles.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
tipping away! xp
― plaks (I know, right?), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have been doing intervals for the past few weeks, trying to break through a weight plateau. i realized this week, as i cut through a park, that trails are so much more comfortable than sidewalk/pavement, so i'm thinking of exploring more area parks in the next few weeks. also realized that uphills are not bothering my shins as much as downhills, so i think i will try to be less timid about them from now on.
― tehresa, Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Are your shin troubles getting any better yet?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
somewhat. i stuck to elliptical and stationary bike for like 2 weeks until i couldn't take it any more and then eased back into running. i still get some pains, but i think it is slowly getting better. stretching helps a little but it's an awkard place to try to stretch, and not pushing too hard is something i try to remember. i try to alternate days running and using the elliptical trainer, but i've started to really hate the elliptical. it's frustrating! i can't do the distances i want, and i get really antsy.
― tehresa, Sunday, 1 November 2009 23:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've really taken a step back in terms of speeds and distances in the switch to morning running, I'm much slower and stiffer and eager to get home and warm up in the morning. Also more likely to look outside, decide the weather looks grim, and go back to sleep, which is why I didn't make the 75 mile monthly goal (ended at 71). I'm sure November weather will remain a challenge but I hope the time change and lighter early mornings will help, I'd just like to really establish a 20 mile a week base next month.
― Maria, Sunday, 1 November 2009 23:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
i actually decided i don't mind the rain at all, but i get really paranoid about slipping on wet leaves or wet metal.
― tehresa, Monday, 2 November 2009 00:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't mind running in the rain late in the day but somehow i can rarely force myself to get out of bed and do it! wet leaves can be slippery, but it's going to be a real problem with ice, i think.
― Maria, Monday, 2 November 2009 00:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran for 30 mins today, second run this week. debating whether to start running again. i just... man it feels good to me for about 15 minutes out of any run, then i just barely tolerate it.
i shld stay around and get inspired
― bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 November 2009 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
what i like is that it is pretty time efficient.
back on with a mile and a half to two miles for the past three days, gonna move at this pace for the rest of the month and amp up REAL slow this time.
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 November 2009 03:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
Just bought a heart monitor so I can be a bit more scientific in my training. Gonna try and find out my max heart rate on the run home tonight, slightly concerned though that my heart will actually physically explode.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh man i've wanted one for a long time! someday.
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
getting a lot better at the looooooong hill on my route. it's good.
On long hills I just try and relax as much as possible, and just be patient.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah and loosen my legs
― plaks (I know, right?), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i just slow down.
had my first decent morning run this year (standard for "decent" being "i didn't hate it and want to die"). maybe because i'm getting used to the change, maybe because i took some ibuprofen for an unrelated problem before i left...my fingers are crossed that more and more will be like this.
― Maria, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
Shit, that didn't go too well. Was trying to find my max heart rate by the following method:
Run hard as possible for 3 minsJog for 2 minsRun hard as possible for another 3 minsYour heart rate should hit its maximum at the end of the second hard run
Wanted to give it my all, so I went totally Usain in the brane on the first 400 metres and then I just completely blew up. Terrible pace judgement, didn't realise how tired my legs were after a couple of hard weeks. Gave up on that method, and then just tried to max by putting in a hard burst whenever I felt like I wasn't going to die for the rest of the way home. Topped out at a miserable 161 bpm. If you take 220 minus your age as an approximation of your MHR, my result would give me the reading of a 59 year old. Har bloody har. Need to try again with fresh legs.
Never really thought about it before, but I always assumed that it was MHR that was a limiting factor in how hard you could go, when actually it's how hard you can go that determines the MHR you can achieve. Sort of. Isn't it? Hunter would know this stuff maybe?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
can u get a heart rate test at ur GP?
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
yr max HR is 220 minus yr age
― how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
(roughly, which is all you really need, probably)
― how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
my run was really fun today!
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
from what i remember 85% is a good place to be for training and progressing, right?
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
thereabouts: 70-85% of MHR
― how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
i was told to shoot for 85% in the first part of workout, then slowly bring it down. it's the slowly bringing it down thing that's hard for me... as soon as i stop exerting the effort to get it to 85%, it likes to drop really fast? i guess that means i should just work harder during the 'not exerting max effort' periods.
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
did more squats yesterday (3x30, and wide squats 3x20). hamstrings fkn killing me again
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
This thing I have says:
ZONE 1 TEMPERATE ZONE Easy / Recovery (60% - 70%) Weight loss (best zone for burning fat)Builds basic level of fitness for beginnersRecovery from over-trainingWarm-upsConditions body for long distancesZONE 2 AEROBIC ZONE Steady (70% - 80%) Improves aerobic fitnessDevelops healthy heartWeight managementZONE 3 ANAEROBIC THRSHOLD Tempo, Hill Sessions, Race (80% - 90%)Increases overall peformance levelZONE 4 REDLINE ZONE Intervals (bursts) (90% - 100%)Develops speed over short distancesCAUTION: Only train in this zone for a few minutes at a time.
Weight loss (best zone for burning fat)Builds basic level of fitness for beginnersRecovery from over-trainingWarm-upsConditions body for long distances
ZONE 2 AEROBIC ZONE Steady (70% - 80%)
Improves aerobic fitnessDevelops healthy heartWeight management
ZONE 3 ANAEROBIC THRSHOLD Tempo, Hill Sessions, Race (80% - 90%)
Increases overall peformance level
ZONE 4 REDLINE ZONE Intervals (bursts) (90% - 100%)
Develops speed over short distancesCAUTION: Only train in this zone for a few minutes at a time.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
How do you do yr squats Coz
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
?
yeah, 85% is pretty serious work iirc; best to dip into unles you're in competition or have put in the time to build to that level.
― I AM NOT ONE TO PURSUE GAME, MY FRIEND - NO, INDEED. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
(I do the squats minus the chair)
Ah those wide squats would definitely kill me. Should do more of this stuff, really need to get into doing some abs and back stuff most of all.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
i do squats w/ a ball between me and the wall. sometimes with a bar holding some weight (bar slides on frame, no ball).
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
I love this one, but it's a killer
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
(^^^fitness chicks, btw)
Ow my knees
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
220-age-> dont believe
― bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah what if you're 219 years old? this model is flawed.
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
I love how she's just sitting there like "this ain't no thing" then the first time I tried it I couldn't even cross my fkn leg over my glutes were so sore!!
x-posts
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol!if your knees hurt maybe focus on keeping weight more in heels and squeezing your butt on the way up?
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
hey guys go ask the FUCKING MAYO CLINIC---220 - age is just a guideline, ffs
― how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
Squeezing my butt? It already feels like I'm pooping, I think that would be a step too far.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
if you are fitter than that, you probably know it already. or go get a VO2max test or a stress test or something
― how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
it will assist you on your way up and take some pressure off knees?xpost
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
not that kind of squeeze...
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
also the only figure four i know is
― how rad bandit (gbx), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
Full-susser with full mudguards wtf
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 22:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
I actually ran with my heart rate monitor for the first time in a long time last night. I spent most of my run at 160-165. I was trying to run six miles in under 50 minutes, so I ended up sprinting at the end and hit 175. According to the FUCKING MAYO CLINIC my MHR should be 190. I guess that seems right, but it would be pretty miserable to try and reach that.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 23:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
my observed max hr during years and years of racing would be something more like 205-age, if that high.
aint tryna fuck w/ no mayos tho, they come hard
― bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 01:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
The problem with those target heart rates is it's really no fun to run at them.
― Maria, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 01:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
well, i don't htink you should be running at your mhr bc then you might fall over and die?
― ms. thighs (tehresa), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 01:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Your max heart rate does vary with what sport you're doing though, doesn't it? I think I read that observed MHR on a bike is about 10 bpm less than your running one, cos you're primarily just using your legs, and that muscle group alone can only make your heart work so hard.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 08:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
I dunno, from previous experience zones 1 & 2 are fine, and if anything, I have tended to stray above them more than I should on 'easy' runs. It's nice sometimes to be running and then look at your wirst and see that you really should be going a little slower, it gives you an excuse to relax a bit.
Have enjoyed running in zones 3 & 4 in the past too, cos there's nothing better than feeling yourself running really fast, if only for a few moments. If you can make yourself to go there, it's great, but your motivation needs to be a lot stronger than your aversion to pain. These days I really struggle with that, but I think that's more due to a greater distaste for pain than anything else.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 08:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
my understanding is yes max hr varies by activity. doc teammate said body position et al affect efficiency i think.
― bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Took yesterday off after runnng for 7 days straight. Needed it.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 14:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran my second 13.1 miler today in 1:59:10. While I did break 2 hours, I'm really disappointed I can't run that distance faster. I should at least be able to do 1:45. I start getting delirious though, at about mile 11.
― Jeff, Sunday, 8 November 2009 01:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
running makes my hips sore sometimes. but sometimes not.i've been having a lot of fun at it lately though.
― harbl, Sunday, 8 November 2009 15:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
get a foam roller maybe? everyone sez it's all abt loosening up the IT band...i have recently started and i think it helps
ran for consecutive days for the first time in a while...feelin pretty good, other than being hungover ~
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 8 November 2009 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i should get one and i should be doing lunges and abductor/adductor exercises. ugh so boring though.
― harbl, Sunday, 8 November 2009 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
like this http://vodpod.com/watch/2039866-ofit-hip-abduction-strength-exercise-with-stability-ball
― harbl, Sunday, 8 November 2009 15:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
O'Fit
― admrl, Sunday, 8 November 2009 15:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
gotta get a ball
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
btw totally digging trails and hills on trails (waht!) lately so i want to start going to the bigger parks with longer trails but it feels like such a waste of time to travel there.
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
u guys r making me feel way guilty
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's ok my distance is still really short and i suck a lot
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i haven't gone in over a week because "i felt a cold coming on" lol i am a pussy
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
There's no such thing as a bad run. Actually, I've had plenty of bad runs, but at least I almost always feel better after them.
― Jeff, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i don't run that long right now but it's still great. i just try to go 40-45 min and make at least 75% of it running, and to run up the hill. but i've also been doing about one continuous run per week and making it progressively longer. and i'm soooooo slowwwwwww
― harbl, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
yea i agree abt once i actually get goin its the right decision - i will probably go later today, although my back is kinda sore from raking leaves
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
my mother has been on a big 'i want to buy you things' kick lately for some reason so i got this:
which is awesome because the sleeves flip out into mittens and have thumb loops and also it has a hood. i've found it to be perfect in terms of providing warmth when i first start out and am freezing but also easily adjusts to regulate temp after warmed up. i'm so spoiled for a newbie. uhhh anyway, it makes me less rain phobic i guess.
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am struggling with going out to run now vs. going to get office supplies bc my desk is a disaster and i'm not being very productive :(
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow i want that! i always run in a longsleeve cotton tshirt. which is stupid.
― harbl, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
its wicking properties are kind of amazing.
i feel silly with like 'gear' bc i suck so much, but it is v v nice and i didn't pay for it so...
before i was running in the baselayer i use for hiking on cold/rainy days which was not too bad but this is better.
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
guys gear rules and cotton blows unless its the summer time
― how rad bandit (gbx), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
also trails + hills >>>>>>>>>>>> pavement, real talk 4ever
i forget who but someone i know was going on about how cotton = death a while ago and it was hilarious but also true (at least for hiking).
― tehresa, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
when I'm running I often get a pain across my abdomen - it feels like muscle strain but does running really work your core? could it be something else, like lactic acid or oxygen/stitch related?
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
I love gear.
― Jeff, Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, gear is great :)
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
is it maybe my running posture? I tend to run pretty upright
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
maybe you're running too soon after eating?
i'm gonna have to get some clothes suitable for winter running, finally admitting that the season of t-shirt & shorts is over :(
― lex pretend, Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
it does just sound like a stitch though. bastards. i get them less now i've been running regularly for over half a year but they do tend to spring w/o warning or reason sometimes
― lex pretend, Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
nah, it definitely wasn't running too soon after eating, I'm always very careful about timing meals around exercise
I tried caek's magic stitch clearing technique but it didn't do anything : /
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
googling suggests that the core is very important for running but it doesn't say if it's specifically worked by the exercise: I know w/cycling your core is again v.important but being on the bike gives you very little core work. hm
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
what is the magic stitch clearing technique!! it's not on this thread...
― lex pretend, Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
slowing down and focusing on breathing cleanly and deeply def works
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
caek says to press your middle finger and thumb together as hard as possible (on both hands) until the stitch clears, it didn't work for me but obv ymmv
― coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
focusing on breathing deeply has definitely eased stitches in the past. actually a lot of running difficulties have been solved by remembering to breathe properly
― lex pretend, Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jeff, are you taking any food and drink with you on your long run? If I was running for two hours, I would definitely have a gel or two, and that can definitely help stave off the brain fade.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
Actually, I've been getting into these things when I'm running cos they're so light and not as messy as gels:
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
One gel at about mile 7. Water throughout, although not as much as I would like since the city has shut off most of the water fountains for the winter.
― Jeff, Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
That'd be after about an hour I guess? Maybe try necking another after 90 mins. I always get some sort of scrambled head after a while too though, especially if it's windy.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
ooh that looks like a nice running shirt, t! esp. foldable sleeves. i am in the market for some v. warm tights this winter myself.
i have no solution for side stitches. i just breath deep and run through them but sometimes they nag at me for miles! if i slow down a bit they're bearable but i wish i knew how to modify my eating/drinking habits to avoid them altogether.
jeff have you tried carrying a water bottle with you on long runs? i find it way less annoying than i expected.
― Maria, Monday, 9 November 2009 00:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
I really don't like holding anything in my hands while I run. I think I'll probably pick up one of those dorky fuel belts though.
― Jeff, Monday, 9 November 2009 02:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
My dorky fuel belt is my most treasured dorky running possession :(
I have the Camelbak Stamina one, which was kind of expensive, but it's really comfortable, doesn't move around at all (when you adjust it properly) and has just enough storage space (but no more than that). The bottle is way over-engineered though.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
is it like a fanny pack?
sometimes if i want to run to the gym i just use a really crappy backpack and put it on w/ straps short enough that it doesn't bounce around too much, but obv, that would not work for a longer run.
― tehresa, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah it is. No space AT ALL for gym stuff though, just bottle, snacks, iPod, keys + ID.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've got a proper biking Camelbak backpak too though, which is pretty good for running if you pack it right and squish everything down with the bungee.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Monday, 9 November 2009 22:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, my reason for the backpack is usually to carry a jacket for the way home, which can be chilly, and bottle, wallet, keys, lock.
― tehresa, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
I wear a SPIBelt. No place for water though.
― Jeff, Monday, 9 November 2009 22:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's raining. i am trying to make myself go out and run. gahhhh lazy.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 20:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
Just do it, go ahead and enjoy splashing around. Unless it really chucking it down, you won't really even notice it that much after a couple of minutes.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
I had a cold and i didn't want to go running
but I did
feel pretty awesome btw!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
i know, i always feel better afterwards, it's just the getting out the door part.
but you are right, nick.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
Do it do it do it do it.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
do it
― coz (webinar), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 21:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
k it's true i feel better now
also a little sleepy
― tehresa, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
i went too. it was hard. i never feel like eating for hours after i run either. that's bad.
― harbl, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
mine was not too hard. i really don't notice the rain after a while, it's true. except when it picked up a little. still concerned i'm going to kill my ipod soon no matter what i do to try and protect it from moisture. maybe get a cheap shuffle that won't be as much of a loss if it goes? those are like $5 now, right?
i am usually hungry but feel more like sleeping afterwards. i think that's bc of the showering part.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
little shuffles are a good idea, also since they are flash drives, the impact barely effects them
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've yet to run this week. I think I ran too many miles last week and I've just found it hard to motivate myself to move that much. I need to get in at least 1 or 2 runs.
― Jeff, Thursday, 12 November 2009 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
I ran on Monday, then came down with the flu or something Monday night, and I've yet to get out the door to run or go to class. (I did swing by the grocery store yesterday for some cough drops and stuff but that's it.) I'd actually much RATHER be running or in class today, I'm bored out of my skull!0
― Maria, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
I had a fantastic run tonight. It was the first run I've had since the 13.1 one last Saturday. I started out and my calf and knee started hurting immediately, but within 2 miles I was just on cruise control. It was as close to a runner's high I've ever had, it almost felt effortless. I went for an hour, just over 7 miles. It's good to be back. Can't wait to get back out tomorrow.
― Jeff, Friday, 13 November 2009 04:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Jeff, Friday, March 27, 2009 7:48 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I signed up for the 2010 Solider Field 10 mile run this week! I actually think I'm in shape to do it now.
― Jeff, Friday, 13 November 2009 04:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
Soldier. That's how you spelling it. Funny, neither past Jeff or future Jeff can get that right.
― Jeff, Friday, 13 November 2009 04:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol. you spelling it!
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 04:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
i went 3.25 miles run/walk (mostly run) today but the shocker was that my speed in the running sections was quite a bit faster than it has been for the past few weeks. curious!
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 04:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
rather like sansa clip over shuffles since i dont know how ppl keep sanity w/out having some kind of screen. i think the new shuffles speak the tags-- that would make me fucking crazy.
― bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 November 2009 04:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
my legs are aching after running yesterday, not sure why
― coz (webinar), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think that's a setting you can choose but you don't have to have it?
i would probably want an ipod for the nike+ compatibility tho i guess if i got a shuffle i'd have to purchase the adapter and then i might as well just get a fancier gps thing. ugh.
i will probably do nothing and then get pissed in 2 weeks when my ipod dies from water damage lolz.
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
my legs have been aching less!i don't know why! i hope it sticks!
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
the new shuffles are cool and great for exercise butttttttt the slightest suggestion of sweat and the remote control on the earbuds starts freaking out
― coz (webinar), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
and yeah you can turn off 'voiceover' but I dunno why you'd want to, it doesn't speak the titles when the track changes only when you hold in the remote button for a sec
― coz (webinar), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh i'd use my own ear buds probably... the ipod ones are not a shape suited to my ears apparently. ow.
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
you'd lose the ability to skip tracks and select playlists then (no remote)
― coz (webinar), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
so just plan playlist before run?i had a shuffle with no remote years ago. it wasn't an issue.
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
is there no play/forward/reverse button on the actual ipod???
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Got up early to do a long run before work. Holy hell it's pissing it down out there. Dark too. Why didn't I stay in bed?
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
nope, all handled by the remote!
― coz (webinar), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
what a ripoff! fuck that i'm not buying something that can only be controled via proprietary crap earbuds.
aw nick, you are a hero. good for you!!!
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, now I think I don't wanna go and get drenched, and now I feel bad I bullied you into it the other day.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
― coz (webinar), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
just do it, nick!
to be fair, i didn't get drenched, it was a pretty reasonable rain and i was being a wimp, it just looked worse from my window than it was when i got outside.
so uh... go!!!
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
okay okay okay!
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2009 06:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
:) <3 :)
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Holy balls, thanks guys, that was totally vile. I had rain! I had hail stones! At one point I thought my contact lenses were going to get rinsed out of my eyes. 11 miles of slopping around in the mud on shit-spangled farm tracks in the early morning gloom. My backpack soaked up water like a sponge and now I have weird wet patches on my clean clothes. My disgustingly wet shorts are now flopped over the office radiator in all their self-righteous filth. Forgot to bring any lunch, boo hoo.
Heart-rate monitor was good though. It's really encouraging to be struggling up a hill feeling like a servant of Death, wondering why you're going so slowly, then looking at your watch and realising that you're actually working DAMN HARD and that you've got every right to feel like a bag of shite. You understand that all your misery is just how it should be, and somehow that absolves you of any guilt over your struggles. It's liberating! Shit, I've gotta go and find a cake.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2009 10:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
Aw now I feel bad. Awesome job! It sounds insane and invigorating and awful.
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 13:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
ha i wimped out the last couple days because of rain + wind and now i feel extra wimpy
― harbl, Friday, 13 November 2009 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think the major thing for me right now is the darkness. It is already dark when I het off work so my mind is like, ok time to relax for the night nit go running.
― Jeff, Friday, 13 November 2009 14:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
running 11 miles in the rain with a backpack in the dark in the morning before work sounds pretty mental. good job.
― bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 November 2009 14:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
i accidentally ran in the rain today - not particularly fun but weirdly it seemed to help me run faster and further w/o tiring so much
― lex pretend, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
but i swear i would have been drier had i swum along the canal rather than run it
Lots more rain to come this weekend by the looks of things, glad I've got the long run out of the way. Got a race on Sunday though! The first 10k that I've done for years. Up and down along the seafront with 30 mph winds being forecast, aiiieee. Kind of nervously excited about it, I know I'm going to be pretty slow though.
― Obscured by clowns (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2009 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
People - quick recommendations on good running/gym gear (shirts, shorts etc) would be much appreciated! Just brands/items that you like. It's mainly for indoor gym work - I have just got a trial membership at a v.posh gym and my outdoor running gear of old rugby shirt and tatty lycra shorts won't cut it. I have good running shoes, so I'm sorted there. Thanks!
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
sorry can't help - i run in tatty old stuff myself - but any old sports store should do right?
yesterday i tried running for the first time since i came down with the flu last week and had to turn back after a mile because of my hacking cough. boo! i hope i'll be able to do more in a few days.
― Maria, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
I buy whatever is going cheap from Wiggle:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/d/run/8/1/1/
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Tore my calf muscle last Wednesday. I was cold, doing some uphill, pushed too hard. Couldn't walk too well for 2 days, but now OK. Desperately want to go running! Anyone have any experience with rest time, getting back to it after a calf injury?
― paulhw, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
ouch!!!!!
― tehresa, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
dude i am not a doctor, but i can tell you that it is going to be much longer than you might think/want
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
that sounds horrible :(
but oh! good news! i swear i think my shins reached some kind of turning point last week because suddenly, they were not tender after running anymore! i don't know what happened? but i like it. now i have to make sure to not overdo it out of excitement. need more patience.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh i thought u nearly were a doctor gbx (?)
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, which means i'm not a doctor
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
and nearly = 2.5 years to MD, 6.5 years until actually, like, a REAL doctr
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
/
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
jesus just writing that out made me depressed
You are already a doctor in my <3
― tehresa, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
murmur
― I must have five minutes of iguana time (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
12.2 miles today, leisurely pace, but still pretty exhausting. Puts me at 75 for the month.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 November 2009 00:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hey, well done Jeff! Are the long ones starting to feel a bit easier now?
More ridiculous weather here, the rain wasn't so bad but the wind was a real pain in the arse, kept getting blown sideways off the trail. Managed to do 21 and a bit miles, the first couple of hours or so felt fine, but the last big hill was a major headfuck. Pretty shagged now, wondering if you can actually die of achey legs?
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Little by little they are starting to be easier. Like micro improvements each time. I ate two gels this time, which I think helped.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm finally back to it after almost 2 weeks off due to the flu! had a great 5 miles yesterday but am a little stiff today, so i think i'll just keep it at 20 miles this week and not start building distance again until december.
man, i can imagine dying of achy legs after 21 miles - are you training for a marathon or just doing it for fun, nick?
― Maria, Sunday, 22 November 2009 18:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
My longer runs always start out fun. I'm like "hey this is great! I bet I could go 20 miles today!" Then around mile 9 and 10 I'm really hating life.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yes, too true!
are you training for a marathon or just doing it for fun, nick?
It is fun! But yeah, I've got one in the spring, but I was also kind of toying with the idea of doing something a bit longer in the summer. There's a London to Brighton trail race that looks pretty amazing, still trying to get my head around running quite that far though. Good time of year to try and put some miles in anyway, keep telling myself how much easier it'll be to go further if the sun was shining.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
i did a little under 6 miles this morning - 1st time ive been running all month - standing in the shower @ home afterwords i thought i was going to melt
― Lamp, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
Maybe I should I sign up for a 50k or 50 mile race? 11 hour time limit on the 50 mile, that's only 13 minute miles. Should be a breeze, right???
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
It does sound do-able if you put it like that, doesn't it? Go slow, accept discomfort as a given, keep eating, keep drinking, try not to go mental.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
i did a 50 mile one-shot hike once, but we took waaaay longer than 11 hours. closer to 22hr, and like 20k of vertical. and rain. at one point i actually fell asleep while walking, and woke up a dozen feet off the trail
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
damn, y'all.
― tehresa, Sunday, 22 November 2009 20:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hiking that distance is pretty bold cos it must seem like it's taking forever to tick off each mile. Be an awesome thing to do with good friends though.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 20:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh it was totally great
it's a lol college thing, and people camp out along the way w/support stations, so there's coffee and soup and stuff. also they mostly just sit around and get drunk and lol at strung out hikers. then there is a big feast at the lodge where you finish
think i slept for 16 hours afterwards
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Sunday, 22 November 2009 20:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, that sounds fantastic, would definitely be up for that.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
sounds really awesome!
― tehresa, Sunday, 22 November 2009 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
the hiking sounds cool, especially if you could do it with a friend. i would have trouble thinking about 50 miles of running though, just because when i go more than about 8 miles i start getting bored and going "hmmm...this much further to go." boredom actually hits before exhaustion! how do you keep yourself interested?
Good time of year to try and put some miles in anyway, keep telling myself how much easier it'll be to go further if the sun was shining.
this is what i am telling myself now, i've always thought of winter as the time i run less due to bad weather but i'm trying to switch to thinking of it as a good time to build mileage, indoors if necessary. starting in another week or so i hope!
― Maria, Sunday, 22 November 2009 21:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hey, hope so!
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh it's going to be fantastic. I've actually been able to increase my mileage in the fall, so I'm probably going to be running like a thousand miles a month when it is actually nice outside.
― Jeff, Sunday, 22 November 2009 22:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
After around a year off all exercise due to illness I did a 5K yesterday - 27 minutes 59 secs! I am so pleased just be able to run, never mind the time. Next stop - a half marathon, I think.
― Dr.C, Monday, 23 November 2009 09:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
Congrats Dr C! What race was that then?
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Monday, 23 November 2009 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
It was in Richmond Park. I am aiming to get a couple of minutes off that time in a the next few weeks.
― Dr.C, Monday, 23 November 2009 11:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm sure you will, it's really gratifying to do a little series of races and see your times get faster and faster as your fitness comes back.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Monday, 23 November 2009 12:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'd like to do a marathon in the next year or so, but I've been saying that for the last 20 years! Other target is to get back on the rugby pitch this season, but I need to put on around half a stone and build upper body strength back to what it used to be. I'm getting there, but it's bloody hard! It's inspiring to read about some of the feats on this thread..
― Dr.C, Monday, 23 November 2009 14:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
I bet you could do one in the next year or so!
I have very little interest in marathons but I think a half might be a good distance for me, long enough to be challenging but not long enough to be dull or miserable, and I know I can work back to the distance (if not a good time) in a few weeks. So there's a goal for the spring.
― Maria, Monday, 23 November 2009 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Went out on Sunday for an extremely slow 45 minutes as a test for my healing calf. A few twinges, but felt OK. I'll try the same again in a couple of days. Hopefully aim for an hour next weekend, but keep pace and hills down...
― paulhw, Monday, 23 November 2009 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
started regular running with an eye on a half marathon in march. I am not fast.
― ogmor, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah there's one in april and i said i'd do it but today i ran 5 miles which was my first in ages and u no, it was hard sorta
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 November 2009 18:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
i was doing a really good job and then the last couple weeks i became a bad person. then on friday i got a nasty blister on my foot from respectable shoes. no running until it scabs over :(
― harbl, Monday, 23 November 2009 19:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
i stand all day at work and my ankles r sore
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 November 2009 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
I need to run today. But I'm hung over. And I ate two hot dogs for lunch.
― Jeff, Monday, 23 November 2009 21:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
Burp!
Hey Ogmor, speed doesn't matter! Hope your training goes well.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Monday, 23 November 2009 21:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've been very diligently running a little bit (around 2.5 miles maybe? i don't keep track) 4-5 days a week and i'm enjoying it. i'm not a goal-setting sort of person, so i don't care if i ever run a marathon or even a half. my only goal is not to stop. i do feel that i've come a long way from august, though!
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 23 November 2009 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i was gonna say!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 November 2009 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
I seem to have injured my knee running. Have any of you had experience with a "sports medicine" doctor?
― Buck Utah (rockapads), Monday, 23 November 2009 22:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thank you Nick, I appreciate the positivity&sweetness on this thread. I was lamenting lost speed, but I'm still enjoying it.
― ogmor, Monday, 23 November 2009 22:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
rockapads, i have not, but i'm keen to myself. i'd say go for it
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Monday, 23 November 2009 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
a girl who works with me is an out of work physiotherapist so i get advice from her when i'm feelin hypochondriacish
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 23 November 2009 22:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
i usually just lay off whatever i think is hurting me (mostly my knees) for longer than seems appropriate, and it works out. but my back is just driving me bananas, and has for long enough, that i'm beginning to suspect it's a thing
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Monday, 23 November 2009 22:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
my knee started giving me trouble about a month ago - was running downhill and when i stopped it felt like it needed to be popped. i kept running, and now it hurts to walk to a degree that i am limping slightly. :(
― Buck Utah (rockapads), Monday, 23 November 2009 22:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ugh, I ran. That has to be a PR for running while hung over for me. Six miles!!! all without puking.
― Jeff, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Back injuries are a bitch. The first time I hurt my back it took me over six months to recover. It wasn't debilitating, but goddamned annoying. Thankfully I haven't hurt it again in several years.
― Jeff, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
Took three whole days off running before today. Feels like I have a new pair of legs, all of a sudden they're so springy. Was so used to them feeling tired all the time, it's great!
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
less rain, please.
― ogmor, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
agreed. I bet the time I spent hurdling or going around puddles today added 30 seconds to my turkey trot time.
― Jeff, Thursday, 26 November 2009 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oooh, did you just did a race Jeff? How did you get on?
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 27 November 2009 13:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
8K in 41:07. I was hoping to break 40 minutes, but I started way to far back and spent the first half of the race going around people and puddles. Good enough for 810th place, out of 4965.
The winner ran finished in 24:56 :(((((( That's really moving.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 November 2009 20:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
This was actually the first 8K I've ran since March '07. I was 5 1/2 minutes slower back then, I've come a long way.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 November 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh top job, you're well up the field there. Sounds like it must have been pretty crowded from those numbers. That winning time is sick though.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Saturday, 28 November 2009 09:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, nice job, jeff! sometimes i am absolutely stunned by how fast race winners are, but your time is still pretty excellent.
― Maria, Saturday, 28 November 2009 14:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thanks!
― Jeff, Saturday, 28 November 2009 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
Four miles today to pass 100 for the month and surpass last months total as well. I'll try and do the same for December, but I'd like to set a totally outrageous goal for 2010. Something like 2000 miles.
― Jeff, Sunday, 29 November 2009 19:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Signs of improvement. I ran 100 miles in 15 runs, as opposed to 17 last month. Also overall I ran for 10 less minutes this month to reach the same distance. My overall pace dropped from 9:03 to 8:48.
― Jeff, Sunday, 29 November 2009 19:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
2,000 miles sounds like a huge number!
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
5K in 26.07!!
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 09:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
3 days into December and I've yet to run. My life is over.
― Jeff, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
dr c, congrats!
i really want to do 100 miles this month, the flu held me back in november. i'm only at 9 so far though, and i skipped this morning because of pouring rain and gusting wind. i think i'm going to be doing some pretty heavy running (for me) the week of christmas.
― Maria, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
Now I got the flu here too, so December is also a blank for me so far. Supposed to be doing a ten-mile race on Sunday, but bollocks to that.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
And yeah, Dr C: that's almost TWO MINUTES off your previous time!
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
That is fantastic.
― Jeff, Thursday, 3 December 2009 14:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thanks everyone - not bad for an old git. It actually felt pretty comfortable, and I reckon I can get another minute or more off soon. I will try a 10K when I get the chance too.
Hope everyone with flu gets better soon. Don't fret about not running for a week or so Jeff - sometimes a rest is not a bad thing.
Maria - Christmas week is a good time to run, definitely. I am hoping for a couple of LONG runs during that time, it's also a nice escape route from the inevitable family squabbles that happen (at least in my house) around the festive season :(
― Dr.C, Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i'll be traveling a bit to visit relatives and i'm already thinking, "hmm, i should check out some routes on google maps before we go"! we have the squabbles too, not to mention just the boredom of being at someone else's house and not having much to do.
hope you feel better soon, nick. recovery's more important than racing, sounds like you'll need sunday off.
― Maria, Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
Incidentally - someone said that I have a good build for a runner. I always assumed good runners were sort of slight and small-medium height, and I'm 6'4'' and about 85kg (13 stone 5/187 pounds), which isn't! What sizes/shapes are you ILX running types?
― Dr.C, Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
i haven't run in almost 2 weeks bc of flu and it makes me sad.
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 December 2009 18:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm 6', 170 pounds. Since I've started running a lot, my weight fluxuations have moved from 171-174 to 168-171. I would really like to be at 160 again (I was there a couple of years ago), I think that would really help my times.
― Jeff, Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
im heavier than jeff by a little but also 6'
― his sister was like the heat cummin off the back of an old sb (Lamp), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i'm down at around 150# these days? 5'7"
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
haven't run in 3 weeks. i think my foot is infected :(
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
i could totally beat up gbx though
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
6'0" tall, 154 pounds. My legs are in good shape, but my arms are like twigs.
Poor harbl foot!
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's just a blister and it's scabbed over but i think the location is making it heal slowly? it's on the side of my heel and every time i walk it's like this nagging soreness. running might be easier than walking though, less heel strike
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
maybe you should stop kicking gbx
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
why would i kick him when i can just sit on him
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha this thread made me weigh myself for the like the first time in forever
harbl i have found that alternating running with swimming has really helped cut down on minor injuries esp to my feet but ive turned into this big swimming proselytizer
― Lamp, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh it wasn't from running! i just had to wear normal shoes somewhere and underestimated the amt of walking i'd have to do basically. i wish i had a place to swim though.
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am 5'10" and 155 but i don't think of myself as a running type ; )
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am extremely wee compared to all of you. 5'2". maybe this is why i am so slow. (i think maria is short too, though, so there goes my theory)
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2009 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm like 5'7 and 185? But tza can rep that i am not porcine, i hope.
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am 5'7" and a fattey but uh... less of a fattey than i used to be? anyway it's a process, but i will never have a 'runner's physique' so whatever.
forks i have seen in states of normalcy and buffness but never fattness.
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
ive turned into this big swimming proselytizer
― Lamp, Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
me too!
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm kind of in softening normalcy at the moment; starting to do those mile and a half nightly jogs and 20-40 minutes on the stationary bike to get back to a point where I can get my cardio on come January.
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh another thing - all my height is in my torso so that probably also makes me a bad runner but i like it so whatever.
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
sometimes i wonder if i am a weakling. for me, running 2.5 miles 4-5x a week is totally "getting my cardio on". i've never exercised this much in my entire life. any more and i would feel like it was taking over.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
i have like the shortest torso! btw i'm very very slow
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
(note: sometimes i run for 40-45 min, which brings up my distance, but more than 45 min and WHOA TIME TO GET OUT OF HERE)
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
lechera, it's all really relative. this is less than i'd like to be doing but pretty much the max of what i feel comfortable with. There was a time when I was doing a lot more but never anywhere near some of the numbers I'm hearing on this thread. you're not a weakling, you're you and the elastic capabilities of you are really personal.
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
you're righti'm certainly not ambitious enough to try any harder than i'm trying atm
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am rly interested in ppl's heights because they always surprise me. i had imagined forks and lechera being really tall people!
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
all my height is in my torso so that probably also makes me a bad runner but i like it so whatever
lol u shld swim
― Lamp, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
i like how i abbrev'd in the first sentence but not the second wtf
― harbl, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
ha, i have been a lil' fire hydranty guy since high school and super shrimpy prior.
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
ha! really? i am (and, sadly, have always been) v short. it truly delights me to think that anyone ever thought i would be tall.
!!my sleepover camp name was shrimpy!!!
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
hah lamp i did competitive swimming from like 5-16 and then i got all music schooly.
i love swimming :) but i was never really a champion at that, either. haw.
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
wish I ws 154 lbs
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
didn't really picture u as 5'7" john
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
i wish i was 154 lbs too but i also feel like i would look weird.
― tehresa, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
only when i'm wearing my high heels, xp
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm 5'11 165lbs since it's show n tell day
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
maybe 5'10 sbeen a while since I ws measured
i'm short too - 5'1" - but i'm also really slow! i think this is mainly because i would rather run a long distance slowly than even a short distance quickly, though, so i don't really TRY to be fast. i think i'm a pretty medium build, but i don't have wiry obvious muscles so you probably wouldn't look at me and think "there's a runner!" oooh well.
― Maria, Thursday, 3 December 2009 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
wait, are tall people better runners for some reason?
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2009 02:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
wait, are tall people better runners for some reason? --Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu)
r u joking?
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Friday, 4 December 2009 02:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
what, longer legs? I understand the ergonomics of it, but i also know lots of slow tall people and lots of short speedy folks too so... no, not joking?
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2009 02:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
sorry that was rude
but yeah I think that all other things being equal a longer stride is better
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Friday, 4 December 2009 02:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
my gf's sister is a marathon runner and she's a bit taller and her husband is about my height and they keep pace with each other and when i once said something about how "taller must make it easier" they looked at me like i was nuts
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2009 03:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think it matters for sprinters!
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Friday, 4 December 2009 03:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah most of the fast people in hs i remember were pretty tiny
― harbl, Friday, 4 December 2009 03:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
tall people are heavy
well n/m I take it all back
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Friday, 4 December 2009 03:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
not disagreeing though, it has to be a combination of things! like relatively long legs for your height has to help but there is a point at which you are carrying too much i bet
― harbl, Friday, 4 December 2009 03:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
I guess that it is long legged ppl are faster not tallies
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Friday, 4 December 2009 03:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
Interesting! The same person who mentioned that I have a runners build said that I have long legs but a shortish stride (when running, not walking)and should try and increase it. Also I am trying to build up to 195lbs (my former weight) or thereabouts within 2-3 months, so it will be interesting to see what effect that has on my running.
Tehresa - I am hugely jealous of anyone who can swim WELL! I can swim for ages, but I am unbelievably slow and inefficient in the water. I really need some lessons.
― Dr.C, Friday, 4 December 2009 10:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah my gf is a great swimmer; I am woeful. if we go swimming it's basically just 1hr of me partially drowning and her lolling at me ;_;
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've heard that shorter people tend to be better runners because generally lower weight and lower center of gravity = more efficient movement, but given the trouble I sometimes have keeping up with taller people who are only walking quickly, I think stride length has to be a contributing factor to speed so height HAS to be helpful. Honestly I bet tall skinny people have it best.
― Maria, Friday, 4 December 2009 14:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
the trouble I sometimes have keeping up with taller people who are only walking quicklytell me about it! i'm a fast walker and still STILL! i have to tell people that i can't keep up with them because i'm a hobbit. it kind of irritates me actually. notice that i can't keep up and slow down so that i don't have to break into a trot in order to talk with you.
also: Honestly I bet tall skinny people have it best.don't they ALWAYS.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 4 December 2009 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha, good point.
― Maria, Friday, 4 December 2009 15:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha yeah u people are always asking me why i'm walking fast but i'm not walking fast i'm walking normal :(
― harbl, Friday, 4 December 2009 15:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
I got a hydration belt. One of the Nathan ones with 4 bottles. +2 for my running dork level.
― Jeff, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm back! 10.4 miles today. And all of the below freezing.
― Jeff, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
Well done. I did 8 today round prospect park. Cold, rainy and difficult. But my calf feels fully repaired! Jeff, do you feel like you need liquids in winter?
― paulhw, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
I feel like I need to drink liquids frequently while running. I like to sip every couple of miles. Today was the first day I ran with my belt and it was really nice. At first I was worried that it was two heavy, but I forgot I was wearing it after a couple of minutes. I still look like a dork with it on. A well hydrated dork.
― Jeff, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Great work Paul and Jeff!
I did the 5K again on Saturday - 25'58'' this time!
― Dr.C, Sunday, 6 December 2009 11:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
Forecast is calling for snow most of the week. This should be challenging.
― Jeff, Monday, 7 December 2009 14:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, yesterday was my first day running on iced-over sidewalks. definitely not my best day for speed, but hey, not dead yet!
― Maria, Monday, 7 December 2009 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
I woke up this morning and there was snow everywhere, so I went to the gym, but this is going to disappoint my dog greatly. I'm kind of afraid (ok genuinely afraid) of running on ice/snow -- is it safe? Will I have to buy expensive gear in order to make it safe? If so, I'll just change my routine and go to the gym. Unfortunately, the gym will not permit my dog to accompany me ;_;
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 7 December 2009 14:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
all dressed up, no where to go
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 7 December 2009 14:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
Running on icy pavements is horrible! That dog is fantastic though.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Monday, 7 December 2009 14:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
note: for his dignity's sake, i must add that he doesn't usually wear a scarf, nor is he the sort of dog who dresses upthis was a one-off event
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 7 December 2009 14:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's cool, he looks like a canine Keith Richards.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Monday, 7 December 2009 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
Running on snow is pretty safe, running on ice is kind of scary. I hear Yak Trax are helpful for that but I don't own them so don't know. Someone recently told me that when sidewalks are iced over and streets aren't very safe either, the roads near schools (or churches, when schools are on break) are your best bets because they're most likely to be safely plowed & shoveled, so I'll be checking that out for myself this winter.
Your dog is so cute! Best to not make him sad!
― Maria, Monday, 7 December 2009 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
tht dog is gorgeous. jealous
running on pavements carpeted in wet leaves is also horrible : /
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (webinar), Monday, 7 December 2009 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Fresh snow is fine, fun even. Iced up snow is horrible. much like ice. in most places through snow will be cleared pretty quickly?
― paulhw, Monday, 7 December 2009 21:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
Not on the sidewalks in Chicago. It's up to the property owners to do that, so it can really vary block by block. I swear some of them just spray water on the sidewalk so it just ices over.
I think I'm going to try some yaktrax. As if I don't have enough gear to worry about already.
― Jeff, Monday, 7 December 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah a lot of places seem to be like that. snow never gets shoveled (esp in neighborhoods where there is less owner-occupied housing) so it just melts a little, then freezes. might be better just to run in the street. last winter i did run on it some and it was better than i expected only because i was doing more of a slow march, which allowed me to run farther than i normally could :)
― harbl, Monday, 7 December 2009 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
just ran 5 through the falling snow along a northern vermont riverscape :))
― ice cr?m, Monday, 7 December 2009 21:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
I wonder if I can wear my tingley rubbers on my running shoes.
― Jeff, Monday, 7 December 2009 23:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
running shoes can't get pregnant iirc but i suppose enhanced pleasure is always a +
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 7 December 2009 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
guys all u need is INSOLES they are the besssssssssssssst
btw f u icey I luv VT
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Monday, 7 December 2009 23:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
are you in...THE KINGDOM?
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Monday, 7 December 2009 23:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
tingly rubbers just sounds wrong.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
btw my friend is a thin sole advocate and has those barefoot vibrams but she said the first time she ran in them she killed her shins.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
I got a cast of my feet and had custom insoles made. They're awesome.
I am not a thin sole advocate. I want my feet to be as rigid as tanks.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
3 miles tonight, half in the snow, half on a paved path. Not too bad.
you can't wear socks in those things, it just occurred to me. or maybe they have to be toe socks?
― harbl, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
jeff, if you get yaktrax please report back!
― Maria, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 03:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i finally forced myself to stop wimping out and went running again after almost 2.5 weeks off (sick for a week, then elliptical for a week) and it felt great but i went reallllly slowly and it was 30º so my nose was running the whole time lol.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^^ i need to do this. i've been benched for a while now :-/
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
Welcome back!
I was going to run in the snow tonight, but it isn't sticking yet. It's just turning into wet puddles. I hate puddles.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Monday, December 7, 2009 6:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i am ;)
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
now i wish i'd gone longer :(
― tehresa, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
probably better that i didn't tho!
envying you guys - I avoid this thread every time it's bumped due to: been off the running for years due to mysterious hard-to-diagnose yet excruciating soft tissue calf crap tbh, so i had no idea this was actually the ILX Running Jesus Christ My Calves Hurt thread ;-)
"oh just run through it"
(this was my normal MO for the first six months, with each run getting progressively shorter as serious pain came on sooner)
"oh you run on concrete you have shin splints!"
(but the pain is posterior, not anterior)
"oh you run up and down hills it may be a oh no stress fracture!"
(but the pain is in both legs equally)
"oh it's just your calves are tight"
(but my range of motion is like touch-your-shin-with-your-toes silly)
"oh you probably have 'adhesions' use this foam roller"
(OH GOD THE PAIN MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP)
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
icey: awesome!
lake willoughby rules imo
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
uh roger, see a sports med doc!
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
like it could be compartment syndrome, eg
:(
― tehresa, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 5:07 PM
have done this now, or i wouldn't have had the courage to open this thread tbh
he suspects my crazy-flat feet (though i've been running with them all my life) and sent me to a PT joint for custom orthotics (already rocking the superfeet). they actually weren't so sure and have been doing "trigger point therapy" which despite sounding like complete chiropracty to me seems to be working. at least when she works my calves over it hurts a lot less than it did a few weeks ago, and she claims she's not going any easier.
ran a test mile on a treadmill yesterday with no ill results other than it took 10 minutes because damn that mile after a couple years off is hard no matter how many fake miles you rack up on the elliptical. tomorrow: two miles on the treadmill.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
glad to hear things may be improving. good luck tomorrow!
― Maria, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol these are like my longest posts in months. didn't mean to walk in and hog the thread or derail. mostly just sort of pleasurably envious of all y'all out there running.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
xpost thank you Maria!
ps i am tallish and you are definitely faster than me ;-)
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha doubtful, i run 9-10 minute miles and that's "in shape" for me!
― Maria, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yah willoughby is ridic
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
roger i'm right there with you.i'm rocking two and a half mile jogs with the pup now nightly. so that's a good direction.
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
Great run tonight. 20 degrees, 4 with wind chill. Yaktrax worked great in about 2" to 3" of snow. The only thing that sucked was my hands. My gloves are way too thin. Need new ones before I try that again.
― Jeff, Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran slowly upon a quasi plowed road today
― Richard Snorkeling (ice cr?m), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran on a treadmill O_o
― tehresa, Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
^me too. fuk winter
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
i just skipped it today, it was freezing rain. i'll try to make up for it tomorrow.
― Maria, Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
First run this morning after 12 days of flu. Nice to be back, but coughing like an old bastard now.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2009 09:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
how are the legs though?
i am going to try a 5K in the gym at lunchtime today, and a 'real' one in the park tomorrow.
― Dr.C, Friday, 11 December 2009 10:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
Legs were fine actually, it's the lungs that weren't too happy.
How many times a week are you up to now?
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2009 10:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm doing 2 5Ks in the gym and one or 2 outdoors. I will probably extend one of the outdoor runs to around 8-10K soon. The Saturday morning 5K race might stop on days when I play rugby - first game back is pencilled in for boxing day!
― Dr.C, Friday, 11 December 2009 11:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
Upping the distance a bit should make the shorter runs a lot easier. There's a regular Saturday 5k near me too, I should get along to that every now again for a bit of faster running, cos that's what I'm really missing in my training.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2009 11:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
all the 5ks around here are sunday mornings, so i usually pick church and go on afternoon run instead. i wish there were a saturday race!
― Maria, Friday, 11 December 2009 13:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have one this Sunday, a Rudolph Ramble. I think I have to wear antlers. Then off to Palo Alto and warmer weather for a few days. I hope to get in some runs there.
― Jeff, Friday, 11 December 2009 13:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
25.33 on the treadmill at lunchtime. I am mildly disappointed, cos I did the first 2K far too fast and was just hanging on from there. The last K was agony - not even watching the yummy-mummies' fitness class as I ran could make it fun.
Antlers wouldn't have helped either.
― Dr.C, Friday, 11 December 2009 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am curious about how long it would take me to feel 'ready' to do a 5k. i generally do 3-3.5 miles when i go out but i break it up into a mix of running and walking. i worry if i ran the whole thing i would not be able to walk afterwards!
― tehresa, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
People take walking breaks in 5k's all the time. It's no problem. Just don't line up at the front.
― Jeff, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
i feel like it would be cheating?
― tehresa, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't think so.
― Maria, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
hmmmm there is a jingle bell thing sunday but i have a party sat night :(another one in a park on the 19th... maybe i'll shoot for it? i looked at some results times from their previous races and it seems like i would not stick out like a sore, slow thumb (altho the top time from their november race was 16:59 wtf! that's fast!!!).
― tehresa, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
There will always be a few freaks running scary fast times. You'll be fine in the pack if it's a decent sized event.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think it's not too huge but they start the runners, walkers, and relays, 5k and 10k, all at the same time, so it'd probably be easy to blend!
now to see if i can squeeze it all in and get home and showered before a work meeting at 1pm...
― tehresa, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
Well go fer it then! And good luck!
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok i registered! this is exciting!!! 6 months ago i would have laughed in your face if you told me i'd be doing this on a december saturday morning!
― tehresa, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
yay! have fun!
― Maria, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
:D
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Smart! I had a great run this morning too over the frosty fields to work. So still and calm, really beautiful. My breathing is a bit fucked though, cos I bust a couple of ribs at the veg patch on Saturday.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
I haven't run at all since I've been on business in Palo Alto. Working 12 hour plus days just isn't conducive to running. That's too bad because it's over 60 degrees and I wanted to run around and check out Stanford's campus.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
Next off to North Carolina to visit family for Xmas. I'm afraid if I run I'll either get hit by a car or shot by deer hunters.
hah! where in nc?i will be in sc, where they do not believe in sidewalks. my biggest fear is getting hit by a teenager driving a luxury suv.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol i miss running in palo alto because its currently snowing here now and my apt is v cold never mind outside
gl tehresa!
― ^_^ (_² ÷_X +_- (Lamp), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
― tehresa, Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:06 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
About six miles from here. Certainly no sidewalks.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
that looks kind of awesome!cross country running time?
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
I lived there for 20 years. Totally not awesome. Basically I would be running by a bunch of hog lagoons.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
O_oreminds me of my days doing youth in government when i wrote a bill about restricting pig runoff!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
I hope everyone's running goes well over the holidays. My last Saturday 5K was 25.37, but I will be missing it this week. I want to get in a 10K or two between Christmas and New Year, family stuff permitting.
Hope the ribs get better soon, Nick. I sympathise, having cracked a rib and sprung a rib cartilege a couple of years ago. It still hurts from time-to-time :(
― Dr.C, Thursday, 17 December 2009 11:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thanks. It's a weird injury, only really hurts when I'm stretching or lifting things, and it's mostly okay during running until you start breathing really deeply or coughing and then - wouch! Done it before actually - slipped on a drain cover when I was running and came down heavily on a curbstone. I hate running on slippery pavements...
Good luck with the 10k's anyway!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 17 December 2009 12:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh god dr. c you make me feel so slow!!!!!
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
my practice 5k yesterday was 33min haha but that is actually decent for me.
― tehresa, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
The time doesn't matter though - the main thing is just DOING IT. I get a bit obsessed with times, cos I'm on a bit of a mission to push it as hard as possible at the moment, but that's just me trying to prove that I can get back to fitness. I'll soon blob out on turkey and christmas pud, which will curn by enthusiasm a bit :)
― Dr.C, Friday, 18 December 2009 09:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
curn by = 'curb my' obv.
Or something.....
― Dr.C, Friday, 18 December 2009 09:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
are most ppl here solo runners?
― cozwn, Friday, 18 December 2009 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am. i actually run more when i have very little alone time because that's my excuse. (although i also run more when i have lots of it because i get bored.)
this thread made me look for races around here, but there are none coming up because it appears to be indoor track season. running indoors + fast short distances + on a team = really not my thing.
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
i enjoy a running partner - makes it all much easier i find - usually too much trouble to coordinate tho
i mean one of the things i love abt running is i can just get up and go
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 14:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
same here. i am literally too lazy to go to the gym. am considering it today because it's 14 degrees, but for the time it would take to get there and back i could run two miles!
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran 7+ in in 14 degrees just two days ago have u heard
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've only run 20 miles in December. This is killing me.
I've started using RunningAhead.com. It actually has pretty good Garmin integration. Here's my profile.
― Jeff, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
Can't do the gym, I'd rather run in single digit weather.
the gym is okay but running around outside is so nice
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i know i'm not the most hardcore one here, that's not news! i feel encouraged now though, i'm putting the run off until this afternoon when it's a few degrees warmer and then i'll see how much i feel like doing. (achy knees could be another limiting factor, they tend to bug me over 5 miles and are acting up a little lately. tips? i do deep knee bends and wall sits sometimes to help.)
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
my running fell apart since november. was just about to start up again and now i have a cold. hoping it's not strep throat. at least if i get better i can use my parents' treadmill when i go home next week.i love running outside when it's cold too. it's hard to get going but once you do it's like you make your own heater.
― harbl, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
when it gets to single digits tho im all naaah
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah. 15-20 is ok though.
― harbl, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm still getting used to it and figuring out layers all over again, it didn't get below about 35 here until this week.
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
isn't it dangerous w/ice tho? I imagine it wd be on the back-streets I usu. run
― cozwn, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
yah u got to watch for ice def
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 15:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
yak trax!
― Jeff, Friday, 18 December 2009 16:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
so far it has been warm enough when it's rained and sunny enough when it's cold that it's not iced over yet. i'm very appreciative.
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 16:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
should prob invest in some yak trax as im abt to be in vermont for three cold ass months - they work nice?
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've only used them once and they worked really well.
― Jeff, Friday, 18 December 2009 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am scared to run with other people bc they'd be like 'damn u slow!'but i did 1 min faster on 5k yesterday!now i'm concerned that tomorrow is a morning thing and i have not been sleeping well at all and i usually run in the early afternoon and morning might kill me :(
― tehresa, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
also re: solo running, i find it awesome for the head.
― tehresa, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
tehresa i also am afraid of people thinking i'm too slow! there's a running club at my school that i've never even checked out for that reason. i mean, the girl i know in it runs a 20 minute 5k, and mine's more like 30.
kinda forgot how many miles i've done this month, which is bad because i really think i'm going to hit 100 finally. i *think* i'm up to 60 so far. could even be 65 but i can't quite remember whether i ran on tuesday (i had a final paper due and frankly i don't remember much of tuesday at all).
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
i would be afraid of a club! the one i'm doing tomorrow appears to be all ages/speeds from the pictures, and they mix everyone together (5k, 10k, walkers, and relay teams) so i can just blend in and not feel so lame for being slow. heck, i am just amazed i am doing this at all! 6 months ago i would have had a laughing fit if you said i would be doing this.
― tehresa, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
Good luck tehresa, I'm sure you'll be just fine!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 18 December 2009 18:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
that sounds fun and low pressure! good luck, you will kick ass!
― Maria, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
thanks!
― tehresa, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
I wouldn't mind running with other people. Problem is that I'm not particularly social to begin with. That's why I post on ilx.
Chicago has a huge running community. I actually joined a local organization to get discounts on races. Haven't done any of the events or meetups though. Lots of serious runners. Serious runners are serious.
― Jeff, Friday, 18 December 2009 18:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
the cool thing abt running w/other people is it makes u faster / gives u more endurance
― ice cr?m, Friday, 18 December 2009 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
did my 7 miles yesterday because i felt the need to live up to you, dude, thanks!
― Maria, Saturday, 19 December 2009 15:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
i went running last night for the first time in WEEEEEEEKS
short (~3 miles), but all in the snow, around lake of the isles, at dusk, super beautiful imo
plus running in uneven snow is so much more fun/bang for your buck than grinding it out on paved trails
― being being kiss-ass fake nice (gbx), Saturday, 19 December 2009 16:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
hey guys i got not last place!uh also i am not sure if this was a "long" 5k or if my nike+ sensor is a liar because it told me i ran 5.5k instead of 5k, so maybe all my practicing was cheating. anyway, for a cold and rainy morning i was pretty happy!!
― tehresa, Saturday, 19 December 2009 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
W00T!!! Grand stuff - hope you enjoyed it.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 19 December 2009 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
i did! despite a couple really fast 10ker dudes lapping me at one point!
― tehresa, Saturday, 19 December 2009 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
just had my first experience with slush :-/can't say i loved it, but i'm glad i did itsideways snow coming off the lake needling me in the face only lasted the 5-7 minutes of lakefront i was on. good job on the racing, folks
on the upside, puddlejumping through the snow while listening to metal is pretty fun
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Saturday, 19 December 2009 20:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
Haha, awesome!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 19 December 2009 20:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
i haven't been running since last time i went was during the floods and i had to run basically underwater for parts where the roads were abt a foot under the water, was kinda cool and made me feel like i was braving some elements maybe but now i am a lazy doughball and feelin ashamed
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 20 December 2009 00:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
you guys, i ran on the treadmill for the first time since august yesterday, and i'm FASTER now! not ridiculously so, but i am doing 8:30-9:15 min miles instead of 9:30-10! next september's a long time away, but if i can keep improving until then maybe i'll be able to join the local running club next fall (they apparently do a 7-8 min pace on group runs).
― Maria, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Maria, Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:20 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
;)
did 6 yesterday - think im gonna concentrate on getting faster for a while - 9 min miles just do not cut it!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
a friend of mine who just started running in the spring is doing a marathon in a month O_O shes nuts!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
srsly at he beginning of june she was thinking abt joining a running club but was all worried she couldnt run 3 miles - she ran 20 yesterday - wtf!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
woah nice
wd love to do a marathon - going from running 3 miles to 26 seems like such a big gap to bridge tho
― thurman merman (cozwn), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
a mile every week (or two) would do it i guess! still i am impressed by that level of motivation. my improvement is sooooo slow in comparison.
― Maria, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
this girl has literally zero athletic experience - she has prob a good body for running but its not like shes one of those super tiny ladies - i just dont know man
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah it's the motivation/mental strength/commitment that's impressive and daunting
― thurman merman (cozwn), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
she got really into the social aspect has a running club and buddies etc prob helps a lot
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've been at this for 6 mo. and i'm proud of my 10 min miles :-/
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
uh also i am not sure if this was a "long" 5k or if my nike+ sensor is a liar because it told me i ran 5.5k instead of 5k,
^had a similar xperience last time i did a 5k w/ the nike+
i trust the course so think its somethin 2 do w/ stride length or...idk
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
should note shes still pretty slow but whatevs she ran 20 miles xp
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
That is very impressive.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
dude, i've been at it 4 years and have only just gotten down to 9 :P i am dead last in line for any quick improvement prizes.
― Maria, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
i used to run faster when i was in college but yeah now i'm prob around 9-10 minute. the only way to get faster is doing intervals, pretty much.
― welcome to gudbergur (harbl), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
at least in any reasonable amount of time. increasing mileage does help with speed in the long term but it isn't fast.
― Maria, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
I got an Nathan 4 pack hydration belt for Xmas. Unfortunately I already have one. Would anyone like to buy this one? Never used, size medium, $20 + shipping. http://bit.ly/8opP
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― Jeff, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 20:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
the only way she's getting hydrated is if Whiney gets at her.
― If COMETS had horoscope they would have the SUN conjunct URANUS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 20:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
That was weird. bitly punked me.
http://bit.ly/6iHrBc
― Jeff, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Busted.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 20:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
Been doing quite a lot of running in the snow. Went out on the hills on Sunday and it was absolutely beautiful, a really magical morning and so quiet too, hardly anyone around at all. Did pass a couple of other runners. Was so excited to be out there that I tried to high five the first guy. He misread my intentions and just did this very English embarrassed wave thing instead as we passed, so I totally missed his hand and ended up slapping him on the head.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
^^^lol
― deej--nuts, butthurt, and yelly (gbx), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
genuine lol*whap*
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
also i'll be honest -- they're about 12 on a normal day and 10 if i'm feeling sprightly
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran 6 miles today in the snow. 10 min/mile. It was hard, it definitely takes more exertion to run through snow than it does on pavement/gravel. First run I've had in 13 days.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
ran 5 miles in the snow today w/my dad; felt fine afterwards, few hairy moments on the ice tho
― twentysomething fuck (cozwn), Saturday, 26 December 2009 11:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
yikes be careful everyone!
a couple days ago i ran 9 miles as my last "long run" of 2009, then jan. 1 i want to do 10 miles as my first run of 2010. gimmicky? yes. but it's totally inspiring me!
― Maria, Saturday, 26 December 2009 13:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
i did a short run in the neighborhood behind my parents' because they have partial sidewalks. but in some places the sidewalk slants at like 30º angle! it was a mess.
― tehresa, Saturday, 26 December 2009 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
I thought my dad (frequent 10k and occasional marathon runner) was going to take me to the pain cave yesterday but I felt fine going at his pace for longer than I've run before (I usu. do 3 miles quickly as opposed to his 5 slowly) but I think december has killed my general fitness levels (cold/manflu for first 10, cold snap for the next 10) => fuuuuuuuck my legs are aching today
― cozwn, Sunday, 27 December 2009 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've gotten a cold now too. I'm just going to write off December and start anew in January.
― Jeff, Sunday, 27 December 2009 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think you did plenty well for the whole year so don't feel bad!
― tehresa, Sunday, 27 December 2009 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
Tehresa OTM. Get well soon Jeff!
Coz, your dad sounds just like mine. Love going running with him, good to have that time to talk.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 28 December 2009 10:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Can't believe you guys are still going out so much, I've not tried since the ice appeared. I felt bad, but your stoicism acting like it's no thing is totally alien to my lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality.
― ogmor, Monday, 28 December 2009 12:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
man, what he said times three
― lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 December 2009 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm at the gym for reals. no way in hell i'm going to run on ice/snow. my shoes would be wet within minutes. i don't mind the cold so much as the frozen water.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 28 December 2009 14:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
first run in 3 weeks (illness, then too much work, then xmas) - it was a real struggle but goddamn it felt good. a bit of trepidation as i'm pretty sure that running in these arctic temperatures is what got me ill in the first place, it had better not come back again.
― lex pretend, Monday, 28 December 2009 14:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
First run of the 10s and I took it slow w/my only aim being to stay moving and on my feet for an hour. Had a ball in the snow in the end & did way over six miles which is great for me especially post-Christmas. Rediscovered that forgettable equation: Slow = steady breathing = relaxed = daydreaming/enjoying the scenery = good times = fast. Signed up to a half marathon at the end of March, gotta get cracking.
― ogmor, Monday, 4 January 2010 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
my 1st ever 10+ mile run a couple days ago - it was pretty rad except for the huge mountain i had to run over - it was like 3+ miles of alternating v steep and somewhat steep - gwana choose a new route next time
it was all made worth it tho by the fact that when i was flagging around mile 8 i passed A MOTHERFUCKING ONE HORSE OPEN SLEIGH JUST DRIVING DOWN THE SNOWY ROAD and immediately got so happy and a new surge of energy
― ice cr?m, Monday, 4 January 2010 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
Congratulations on the 10!
I still haven't run this new year. I'm in CA for work though and it is in the 60s here!!!! Now if I can just get out of the office.
― Jeff, Monday, 4 January 2010 17:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Going for a run on black ice takes a bit of confidence, but somehow it's easier than walking on it. Cambers and corners feel dangerous though.
― Vasco da Gama, Monday, 4 January 2010 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
it always feels dangerous to me! i will be running on the treadmill for a while, until either the ice disappears or i get some yaktrax (probably next month when i have to order books for my classes online anyway)
― Maria, Monday, 4 January 2010 18:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ogmor, if you're running six miles now and it's feeling easy, then you will be absolutely fine for a half-marathon in the spring, no problem at all. Just concentrate on getting one longer, slow run in every week, and make that a priority over all your other running. Sounds like your well on your way though.
Also, I still haven't run a single step in 2010, so I'm a fine one to be dishing out advice.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 4 January 2010 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha me neither! but new year's day + a weekend = slow start to the year i guess. gonna get started today.
― Maria, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
i ran on treadmill saturday, that is all.
― tehresa, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
It is cold and I have a cold, so I'm at home working on my rest technique.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
im goin out as soon as i digest these crepes
― ice cr?m, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
one horse open sleigh is hard to beat, a suitably auspicious sighting for breaking 10 miles, congrats!
Thanks Nick, I feel pretty good right now, as long as I get out regularly I should be able to concentrate on the more noble goal of trying to beat the ppl I know and love, who are more experienced runners. If you want any pointers on rest technique, my skills are through the roof.
― ogmor, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
You and me both! There should be a rolling rolling over in bed thread.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
thx for teh congrats dudes - it weird i just clicked into this new gear where i can go so much further - id been pretty much plateaued for the last year or so then boom
― ice cr?m, Monday, 4 January 2010 19:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
So great when that happens.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
I ran today! First time in '10. Three miles, wandering aimlessly through the Stanford campus. Tomorrow I'm going to try the dish run.
Only 1997 miles till I reach my 2010 goal.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
ran two five miles (on consecutive days no less) and a four this week, felt good
― cozwn, Friday, 8 January 2010 12:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
You're kicking my arse in 2010, coz.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 8 January 2010 12:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
kinky
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 8 January 2010 12:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm only running so much cos there's no way I'm riding my bike in this weather; was going to run later too but seem to have tweaked my knee a little somehow so best to rest it I think
― cozwn, Friday, 8 January 2010 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i managed to strain my hamstring attempting to run my usual outdoor mileage on the treadmill last week and now i'm taking several days off running entirely (walking two blocks to the store hurts still). disappointing because this pretty much means january's going to be a reduced mileage month but i guess there's always february, and it'll even be light before class then!
― Maria, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
I decided to walk to work the other day (abt 4 miles) and somehow managed to hurt my back a little. How is that possible when running doesn't hurt my back at all? It was a lovely long walk though.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 8 January 2010 14:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
is it snowy where you are? maybe you slipped a little and pulled something.
― Maria, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
It wasn't snowy at the time but now we have like a foot of it.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 8 January 2010 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
Finally ran the Stanford dish this morning. Oh man, I am not used to hills. I was jogging very slowly up the first big one and I thought I was going to die by the time I got to the top. I had to stop and walk for about a minute. It ended up taking me about 38 minutes to go the 3.4 miles. Also, running downhills can be terrifying.
― Jeff, Monday, 11 January 2010 07:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i love hills. i still have never attempted the super giant hill though. running down hills is a lot rougher on my shins :(
i have been jogging at dusk and i really like it! might get a headlamp. something kind of awesome about the dark.
― tehresa, Monday, 11 January 2010 07:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
omg, haven't run or done any exercise since September. This is ridiculous and tomorrow I'm going to try & find somewhere to run... my nearest cheapo gym doesn't have treadmills; I can't afford another gym and although I have always written off outdoor running in the UK I'm going to give it a go here...
I think I may fall down dead after about 3 mins; either that or I'll get sucked into a coffee shop.
― Not the real Village People, Monday, 11 January 2010 07:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
hills are cool, i like them. don't live near any now though.
my hamstring is getting better, saturday i tried going 4 miles and had to turn back after 1.5 but yesterday it was just tight rather than painful so i'm on the mend. now i just have to tackle the getting-up-early problem, what's the likelihood i'm actually going to get out of bed at 6:30 to run instead of getting another half an hour or hour of sleep?
― Maria, Monday, 11 January 2010 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
any idea what i should do about achilles tendon pain? it feels like it's more internal and there's no sign of a blister.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 11 January 2010 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
Sign up for the 2010 Chicago Marathaon opens on 2/1. Should I sign up? I suppose the question is, do I want to run a marathon. I'm not sure, I go back and forth. I have no doubts that I could, especially with 10 months of prep time.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i have achilles tendonitis! this is my very first athletic injury. while it hurts, i am a little bit proud at the same time.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
stretch and rest!could it be shoe-related?
― tehresa, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think it's from my hiking boots that i wore on my walk to work in the snow. they rub this little area on my upper heel and i think it just got worse from there.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
sad though, because i love those boots and they're new!
while it hurts, i am a little bit proud at the same time.
Congrats on your injury! Get better soon though eh?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
BTW Jeff, I agree you'd have no problems doing a marathon.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
i thought the thaw had set in properly but i nearly killed myself slipping on the ice this morning.
― plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 14 January 2010 13:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
Still trying to get back into a rhythm with my miles. So far I've only run 19.7 miles in January. What is surprising to me is how slow I'm getting. I'm averaging 9:21 a mile, when at the end of November I was down to 8:51 overall. I could just blame the weather, but I won't.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 00:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
hey i have actually run more than jeff this month! (at a drastically slower speed)use that for motivation? bc i suck!
― actually if you want to get technical about it i am sort of down. (tehresa), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
ie, you don't wanna be like me, so move those feet, sir!
or take a break, you earned it!
As long as you're out there Jeff, don't worry too much about the times. They'll come back.
From the Dr. C camp the latest news is that I've managed to get my 5K down to 24.33, and I did 10K the other weekend in a rather sedate 54.45. I set out too slowly really. Someone told me that a good target is to run your age in minutes. (I guess that only applies over a certain age at which it's humanly possible to run it in that number of minutes.) But anyway, I'm shooting for 48 minutes, which I reckon will be VERY tough. Stamina is not a problem, but sustained speed most definitely is! But the bad news is that I twisted my ankle last wkend playing rugby and I don't think I'll be able to run for 7-10 days.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 09:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
Someone told me that a good target is to run your age in minutes.
That's quite a tough challenge IMO, but a good project for this year maybe?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 10:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jeff - it's just a case of getting back into the habit and your fitness will come straight back. Force yourself out the door for a few days and you'll be fine after that.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 10:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
I just got one of these for a late Xmas present. I will be extremely visible.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 13:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
Not if you stay at home with your feet up, tut tut.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 13:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
True, true. I'll try tonight even though it is going to be 27 degrees F and snowing.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
Okay, you might have a valid excuse there.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
looking forward to getting back in the running saddle this week...only been for ONE run this year which is hideous (first the ice making running treacherous, then a chest infection, then a press trip to montréal...genuine excuses!). could even do it TODAY but seeing that i'm still in bed i'm just not sure that's gonna happen.
finally got round to buying a winter running top though, maybe i won't catch a cold every time i run in these temperatures now.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
had gone 4 days in a row last wk, abt 5 mi each time. that is not normal for me but i was feeling strong and recovering well although after the last day i felt p. shitty & wore down. took the wkend off and now im more than ready to go later today!
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
This would give me a good chance of winning the 10k! Doubt I could even run twice my age in minutes, although that's a goal that would probably be achievable in the next year. Cool.
I'm also looking forward to getting back into regular running, although fortunately with better weather than you, Jeff! I had too much hamstring pain the first week of January and then too crazy a schedule to get in more than one or two runs a week, but now I'm more flexible and looking forward to having mileage goals again in February.
― Maria, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
World record is about 26.5 mins iirc, but if you get within ten minutes of that, you've done an amazing run.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok then, if i ran my age in minutes i would DEFINITELY win.
― Maria, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
There is no way I could run a 10K in 30 minutes. Hell, my 8K time is around 40 minutes, it would be fantastic if I could run my age in that.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Only two runners got under 30 mins in our local 10k and that was out of a field of 2,500.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
This is how it works: http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/agegradingcalculator/0,7977,s6-238-277-415-0-0-0-0,00.html
Put your times and age into the calculator and it calculates whether you're local, regional , national class etc. My 5K time is just under 60% (i.e just about local class).
If I could run 10K in 48 mins, that would be 63%. (Shit, I've got some way to go!)
Jeff your 8K time of 40 mins puts you at around 59% i.e the same level as my 5K.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 14:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
My 5K target is 22mins, which I definitely think I can do in the next couple of months. That would be around 66%.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh man, I am nowhere near even approaching "local" class, ever! I am pretty close to the age of people who compete in college athletics though.
― Maria, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Am doing a ridiculous race this weekend - Southern Counties cross-country champs as part of a team. Going to be so out of my depth. It's four laps of a 2.5 mile course, think there's every chance I'll get lapped (only once I hope, but who knows?). Have heard horror stories of people losing their shoes *forever* in the mud. Going in the tenth race of the day and it'll be pretty churned up by then so I'm expecting the worst.
I do have a cold on its way though, wouldn't it be such a shame if I had to give it a miss?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 15:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
Whoa - that sounds fun, Nick! Don't forget to report back on how it went (if you escape the mud)
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
That's a cool tool. I also like the McMillan calculator. Just put in one time for a specific distance and it will gauge what your equivalent performance will be at other distances. Lots of other good info as well.
So if my best 5K time is 22:53, then I should be able to run a marathon in 3:43:00. Assuming proper training leading up to it.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
i was running in the park last week and this girl who was apparently training for the boston marathon had her previous 2 marathon times on a shirt and they were like 3:28 and 3:30 and i was like, lady, piss off as she wooshed past me.
― actually if you want to get technical about it i am sort of down. (tehresa), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
OK, I was all set to run, but then on my walk home from the train station I decided not to. It wasn't so much the cold and the snow, but the stupid wind, which makes it feel like 4 degrees F as opposed to the 19 F it actually is. I really hate winter.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
Has anyone had knee pain then successfully got over it? What did you do?
― Vasco da Gama, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
I used to have really bad knee pains when I started, but they went when I got better (for me) shoes. Still get odd pains every now and again if I overdo it. Nothing very serious, I just take a couple of ibuprofen and rest for a couple of days.
In general I'd say get decent shoes that work for you, build up your distance slowly, and run on softer surfaces if possible.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
i never get knee pain and i'm so glad my shins have gotten mostly better. occasional tenderness but really NOTHING compared to a few months ago, and no ibuprofen needed. i have some arch pain today, which i think is a result of wearing heels for the first time in ages yesterday, but it was kind of putting a damper on my running this afternoon :(
― tehresa, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've had very little pain, knee or otherwise since I got custom insoles from my podatrist.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
i tried putting my superfeet (the pink ones) in my running shoes last week to see if i would feel like a running champ but i ended up having a terrible run with a lot of shin pain (like, back to october kind of pain, it was scary) so i just went back to the insoles that came in the shoes.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
I tried superfeet, but didn't like them. The custom ones are great, they take a cast of your foot and a couple of weeks later you have an insole that fits you foot perfectly.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
that sounds nice!the superfeet are fine for hiking, but definitely a dnw for running, i guess :(
― tehresa, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm actually running 30m+ in a week, and I'm never 'in pain' - it's just that if I run 6m+ on concurrent days I develop a slight cracking noise in my knees, and then I know I need to take time off to avoid progression to crunching noises, then proper pain. So my main problem is that this dictates my rest days, and I'm very wary of running half marathon type distances, or pushing my speed ever.
I really enjoyed the first phase of getting into running, the psychological challenge, but now the limiting factor is these tedious worries about my knees and I rarely ever get to run fast or long enough to really get tired.
Maybe I need to restrict my milage and slowly build back up.
― Vasco da Gama, Thursday, 28 January 2010 00:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
You're doing pretty well if you're running 30 mile weeks IMO! To be honest, my legs don't feel all that great when I'm doing that sort of mileage either. If endurance is your goal, you could try doing longer runs, but build more rest into your schedule to help you recover. I'd say that one ten mile run would be doing more for your basic endurance than two six mile runs, so don't worry too much about taking an extra day off.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
I haven't ran in a week. I hate running in single digit and windy weather. I can do it if it is sunny outside, but my only times I can run are when it is dark; early in the morning or after work.
I'm signing up for a rock climbing class in February, at least that will give me some sort of physical activity during the month. And work on my pitiful upper body strength.
― Jeff, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Always wanted to give climbing a go. Bet my upper body strength is worse than your's though.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've never tried it, will be my first time. Most importantly, it will be indoors and warm!
― Jeff, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
oooh where are you going? d and i have been looking for a place to do indoor rock climbing.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
Lakeview Athletic Club, right down the street from me. There was a deal on youswoop.com yesterday to get 6 hours of climbing lessons for $60. Normally $125, so I got it.
― Jeff, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
iiiiiinteresting
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
Actually, there is five left of the deal, you could go to the evanston location.
http://www.youswoop.com/deal/91
― Jeff, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
thanks! we're totally gonna do it.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
I still have my rei free pinnacle climb but I'm scared to do it bc I don't think I will live up to my 15-year old self's performance.
― tehresa, Saturday, 30 January 2010 02:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
broke off an 8 mile run today, felt good
think i was energized from housing an entire plate of nachos myself last nite
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 30 January 2010 18:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Good job johnny crunch
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 30 January 2010 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
well done!
I did 11. Way more than I should have, considering how low my mileage has been recently. Hurts just to walk around now. No regrets though. Always good to get out there, no matter what happens.
― Jeff, Saturday, 30 January 2010 19:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
Get on the ibuprofen imo. Decent distance for a slacker that is. ;)
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 30 January 2010 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
Talking of slackers, I totally skived off the race I was supposed to do this weekend. Feeling a bit iffy, so I thought that getting my arsed kicked round a cold Hampstead Heath in the mud would be a bit counter-productive fitness-wise. Went and dug my veg patch instead, not sure that counts as cross-training.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
There was a good set of pictures in the Guardian today from the Tough Guy race in the UK. NOt sure I really like the whole novelty aspect of the event, but the photos do make it look unremittingly grim...
More here.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
wow that looks like a war moviewith superman.
― tehresa, Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the whole thing is themed around famous battles. There is this one section I was reading about called the Vietcong Tunnels or something where competitors have to crawl through these long narrow tunnels, partly submerged in water and filth. There are three of them to choose from, two of which are blocked up at the far end so you have to crawl out backwards in the dark (assuming that there are no other folks right behind you blocking your way). Sounds horrific.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
haha, wonder if that's any fun. not the tunnel part, at least.
steeling myself to get back into the monthly-mileage-goal routine starting tomorrow. it's cooold though!
― Maria, Monday, 1 February 2010 00:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
I ended up with 30 miles in January. At least that is more than I had in December. I want to do 50 in February, 75 in March and hopefully be back up to 100 a month in April.
Chicago marathon registration opens today. Still on the fence about that one.
― Jeff, Monday, 1 February 2010 13:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i had around 40 in january, i was thinking i'd just jump back up to 100 in february and see how that went. but given that i managed to injure myself at the very beginning of january after a 100 mile december, and that my ipod stopped working for no reason at all yesterday that may not happen. i'm pretty bummed over the ipod, since my motivation for running is actually about 95% "opportunity to listen to use up excess energy listening to metal" and i was really looking forward to it today!
― Maria, Monday, 1 February 2010 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
Just been totting mine up as it happens:
Runs Logged 18 Miles Logged 102.8
Not great for where I should be, but I missed about 10 days with illness/lazyitis.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 1 February 2010 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
x-post RIP iPod :(
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 1 February 2010 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
lazyitis is a terrible affliction.
ipod may still be under extended warranty, if i can actually find the paperwork. otherwise, i will probably replace it with a new nano out of my new computer savings fund, which is a really bad idea financially but pretty hard to resist when you use it as much as i do.
― Maria, Monday, 1 February 2010 13:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
My headphones keep crapping out. I have these, which are fantastic. Except for the way sweat leaks into my shuffle and causes it to go haywire and stop working about 3 miles into my run. I need another option, but I hate to go back to wires.
― Jeff, Monday, 1 February 2010 14:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
my motivation for running is actually about 95% "opportunity to listen to use up excess energy listening to metal" me too! sisterz. i got a nano not too long ago and i love it for running/exercise. it's so light and i don't mind the ear buds because i can change the song/volume without looking at or fumbling with anything. worth it imo.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
wait, it's not a nano. it's a shuffle.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
I visited that Arriva site. Those are terrific for running and working out at the gym....but skiing and cycling??
― US EEL (u s steel), Monday, 1 February 2010 17:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
Got the early cushion feeling of a blister w/ minimal soreness (on my sole behind my toes), fine to walk on but felt a little funny on Sunday night. Wondering whether yr collective expertise dictates I shld just run on it or rest it for however long you think would be good?
― ogmor, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 00:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
run with diff socks?
― tehresa, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 00:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
you mean thick socks will be fine to run w/ proto blister or for 'in future'?
― ogmor, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 00:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
i dunno bc i have not gotten any blisters from running but i would guess that if you use better socks (thicker maybe? i love smartwool - you can get them at weight that does not feel like running in slippers) that you might avoid making it worse/causing the friction that has got the blister started? how do your shoes fit?
― tehresa, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 00:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh those monthly totals are making me feel soooo bad. I reckon I did 30 miles max, although I did miss a week.
Did 10K yesterday in a terrible time, but I was taking it easy to see how my ankle held up. Now I'm in India and not much chance for running apart from the gym in the hotel.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 00:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
I got this barefoot on an elliptical trainer, always been fine running. I'm hoping it'll just fade off w/ out coming to fruition, but maybe you can't dodge it once it's started. I'll probably run in thick socks tmw or Weds and see how I go.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 01:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
"If endurance is your goal, you could try doing longer runs, but build more rest into your schedule to help you recover. I'd say that one ten mile run would be doing more for your basic endurance than two six mile runs, so don't worry too much about taking an extra day off."
cheers this sounds right.
10 miles in 72 minutes tonight.
― Vasco da Gama, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 01:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
attn iPhone usin ilx runners: check out runmeter.
just now DLd and will mostly use for cycling but dang it looks dope as hell
― avatar 2: the na'vi ending story (gbx), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 01:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
10 miles in 72 minutes is moving rather quickly. I dont think i could keep that pace up for 2 miles.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 03:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ha ha, that's awesome. Nice one Vasco.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 13:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
totaled 67 mi in jan - most since ive kept track
ive managed to get a nasty blister too though -- it's on the instep of my right foot. doesnt hurt terribly and i ran 5 mi yesterday (probably making it marginally worse)..idk, i've had them before but not often. think it might be a sign to get new shoes..? mine are going on 9 months old of p. heavy use
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 15:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
Still not running very much due to weather, but I registered for the Chicago Marathon today. I'm hoping that will make me want to run during the next 9 months.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
i enjoyed running today. i think the cold works for me. it was maybe 25-28F and not windy. no rain/snow on the ground. nice. not sure how far i went but i was at it for about 45 min, which is good for me.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
23:50 for the 5K on Sunday!! That's 60.9% on the age graded time.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 09:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Just scrolled back up to see your other times and -WOW- that's an awesome improvement!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
And yay for Jeff too! Loads of time for training there, just try and get out for the odd run to keep things ticking over for now so you're ready to start running more consistently when the weather gets nice (can't wait for that).
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thanks! I am confident that I can get down to 22 mins at some point. I am also up to 88kg too - that's 15kg gain since I was ill last yr.
The 10K is not going so well though :( Still haven't cracked 54 mins.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
If you can get a regular long slow run in, then you put the endurance that builds together with your 5k speed, you will smash your PB, no worries.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yes, I can run 1-2 hours no problem, but it's just pacing it right. I find I'm setting out too slow in the 10K.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have a hard time with 8 and 10 K's. Before a race I just stand there thinking that I'm going to have to run hard for the next 40 to 50 min and it just makes me nausous. Even though I do it frequently in training.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
i can't believe how athletic you all arewell, i can believe it, but in a gazillion years i will never be that athletic. kudos.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm really not athletic at all. Just incredibly stubborn when it comes to stopping running once I start and have pretty high pain threshold. I have seen my fitness improve though, my 5K time dropped from 28 min to 23 min after just 3 months of solid running.
My weight really depressing me right now. I'm 10 pounds heavier now than I was at the beginning of December and showing no signs of losing it or even stabilizing.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
I really wouldn't worry about your weight too much if you're going into marathon training...
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've definitely seen my fitness improve just in the short <6mo that i have been at this. i ran (slowly, but steadily) for 45 min yesterday! for me that is a huge deal. i couldn't have jogged for 10 min. a year ago. i wasn't overweight, i was just a noodle.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
Solid progress that. How are the legs feeling today?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
fine! for some reason it was virtually effortless. maybe b/c i took a few days (weekend) off.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
i was sweaty, but not in pain. that's how it should be, right?
i see now that this post could be taken out of context. pardon me.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
Haha! Feels amazing running after 2 or 3 days off. Any longer and you can start feeling stale, but a couple of days of recovery is just the best. I'm trying to go out 5 or 6 days a week at the moment here though, feels like my legs are permanently aching and heavy.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
i start to feel stale if i go anymore than 1 day between runs but maybe that's because i don't go as far as the rest of you? like now i haven't run since saturday and i'm dreading how weird it's gonna feel for the first few min when i go this afternoon.
― bwoling and drifting (tehresa), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ran 4 miles last night. My motivations for running is weird. I haven't ran in a week because of weather, but then last night I decide to run in a blizzard. Does not compute.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hi running types.
I've been making a vague attempt at getting some exercise this year and I started off by getting a Wii Fit and I was doing the jogging on the spot exercise but after a few days I got really bad pains in my feet, like I'd bruised the bones, so bad I could hardly walk on my left foot for a couple of weeks.
According to this picture I fucked up the area around where the metatarsals meet the cuneiforms.
I have flat feet, could that have something to do with it? Or do I just run like a spazz? Or is it cos I haven't run for years and my bones aren't used to it or something? My feet are still a little sore now and it was 4 weeks ago now.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hay runners. There was an interesting article in Nature magazine this week w/ new findings wrt running technique and injury and stuff. Bummer you all probably can't read the whole thing but it does give ya a nice little summary. (Can't really say if it helps ya, Colonel.)
― Möbius dick (╓abies), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
Woah, that looks like an interesting piece, thanks rabes!
Col. Poo, would have thought that any sort of bruising would have gone by now, so maybe it's a ligament-y thing? Jogging on the spot is sort of an odd motion for the body to do imo, you've got to be bolt upright or you've got to lean right back or something to do it, so it's going to put lots of weird forces through strange bits of you. How long did you do it for?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
It wasn't even for that long! Started off about 5-10 mins a day for 3 or 4 days, found that quite easy, went up to 15-20 mins for 2 days and then I couldn't put weight on my left foot. My right foot had the same pain in the same place but not as severe.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Figure I may as well jump into this running thread as well.
Have just finished reading Born To Run, which also gets mentioned in the article. Got a bit annoyed with the style it was written in, but if you just want to geek out on running, it's fine. Gets right into that whole discussion on the advantages of minimal shoes/barefoot. Made me want to try those FiveFingers things, if only to freak my wife out with.
I haven't read Born to Run yet, I have it on preorder from Amazon so it will be arriving sometime mid-year in paperback (I have this thing about not paying double price for hardcover books when there's so much good stuff to read already in paperback). I'm familiar with the concepts therein, though, I imagine, as I really prefer more lightweight/minimal shoes whenever possible. Try to wear light, neutral shoes for most training, avoid the extra cushioning, support, motion control and all that nonsense. I've also been running in the FiveFingers a bit lately, picked up a pair a few months back. I use them 1x/week for speedwork, usually about 3-4 miles and I'm good. They do kill your shins/calves for a while until you get used to using them properly (i.e., adjusting your footstrike and knee bend to provide your own cushioning to your body), but I think they're really great. Have to use BodyGlide on my feet, though, to avoid blisters from a couple rubbery seams on the inside...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
Started off about 5-10 mins a day for 3 or 4 days, found that quite easy, went up to 15-20 mins for 2 days and then I couldn't put weight on my left foot.
Weird one, cos that sounds like a gradual enough progression. I still say that running on the spot is bad juju. Give your feet a chance to recover then stick some Poison Idea on yr shuffle and get your arse outside.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
Not that Poison Idea are some sort of ideal of good health btw. I just know I have 'Plastic Bomb' on standby for when I'm really flagging.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
Okay I don't know what I'm on about here either.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yes, running on the spot is not advisable in my experience. We have a wii fit thing and my achilles and calves feel tight even after a short run. I always sort of feel on tiptoes which might explain this. I can't imagine it causing top-of-the-foot injuries though, but it's possible I suppose. I have had metatarsal injuries 2 or 3 times in the past (mainly through being kicked or stood on) and they can be really, really painful, and take months to disappear completely. Hope it soon goes - Colonel Poo!
Had a nice run along the river before work this morning -only 3 miles, but it's so good to start the day with the running buzz. I'm definitely a morning runner - I always do my best times in the morning.
I definitely agree that a couple of days off to recover makes all the difference, but any more than 2 or 3 and I start to feel cranky and sluggish. It's mental as much as physical. There are certain times that I HAVE to run or I feel just *wrong*, for example Saturday mornings.
― Dr.C, Thursday, 11 February 2010 09:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm back to running 4 or 5 miles every other day now. It doesn't feel that great, but it's coming back to me. My feet are hitting the ground really hard though, I wonder if it's time for new shoes. I really want to make it through the messy winter with these though.
― Jeff, Saturday, 13 February 2010 19:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have 366 miles on my current shoes.
― Jeff, Saturday, 13 February 2010 19:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
That's not too bad. Rotate 'em onto your feet once a week, using a fresh pair on the other days, that way you save your legs running in a beat-up pair all the time but can still get some life out of 'em.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 13 February 2010 23:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Austin Marathon's tomorrow for me. My girlfriend's doing the half and she is under the weather big-time. It'll be an interesting race, for sure...
Good luck ilxor!
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Sunday, 14 February 2010 07:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
So how did it go then?
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 14:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
It was really nice, actually. My girlfriend ran about 2:30 in the half -- a bit on her slow side, but she's been under the weather a lot lately. I stayed with her for the first 11 miles, then we split and I caught up to the 5:00 marathon group around the halfway mark. Kept them in sight until around 16 miles, took a bathroom break at 16 (there was a big line so I lost the pacing group) then another bathroom break at mile 21. Stayed at 5:00 pace but the bathroom lines set me back a good bit; finished around 5:20 instead. Austin needs more than 1-2 toilets every 2 miles with 14,000 runners, really. Good race, though. Was sore Monday, feeling good Tuesday so far so I'll take a short 1-2 mile spin this afternoon and then get back into my training regimen later in the week. I already have a few races lined up for March, April, May -- a 30k trail race (18.6 miles) near the end of each month. Really excited!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Aw, well done and congrats to both of you! You're doing really well to get back into running straightaway too, I'm normally having to walk down the stairs backwards for a few days afterwards.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 16:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yep, I had to go sideways up and down until this morning. I'm all better now (or at least I feel that way outwardly)...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
awesome run, definitely back into this again now the life-threateningly slippy winter roads have thawed
― plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
i honestly like the somewhat cold weather way better than sweltering heat.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 18:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't mind the cold as much as the lack of sun. If I wake up early enough to run, it dark. If I run after work, it's already 7 pm by the time I'm home and ready to head out.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
man i LOVE running in the darkrunning in bright sun makes me feel like i'm under a spotlight
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
no daylight and non treacherous surfaces are a definite pro when it comes to running
― plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
^ OTM.
Best part is starting a run before sunrise, then watching it come up as you're finishing a couple hours out on the trail with just a headlamp and a bottle and so forth. Very invigorating (and a hell of a way to spend Saturday mornings).
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
My ideal running time would be from 10 AM to noon every day.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
6:30-?, in the shower by 8 is tops for mei am a revolting morning person
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
i can't run for 2 hours
I don't frequently, but that would be my ideal window, regardless of how long I want to run.
I'm sort of a morning person. Some days I'm in work at 6:30 am. Maybe I'd some one paid me to run, I would do it earlier.
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