The 2006 American Midterm Election Day Thread

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2006 American Midterm Elections

The obvious theme song.

See you on the other side.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Vote Yes on Proposition Hang Saddam

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:07 (seventeen years ago) link

awww. i wanted a subtitle for this thread. "die bold with a vengence" or "and STAY OUT" or something.

Anyhoo, i finally did some phone banking tonight. Wasn't too bad, actually.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Has this been posted anywhere else yet? This is appalling!


Virginia voters receiving robo-calls from "The Elections Commission" stating that they'll be arrested if they show up to vote tomorrow.


Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Agh fucked the html a bit sorry.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

on olbermann they said those robocalls were happening all over the country.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:40 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe not that particular story, but yeah, GOP robocalls have been hitting the news a lot lately. They actually were ordered to stop in New Hampshire.

xp

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:41 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, wait, not the racist ones, the ones designed to make democrats look bad. the racist ones are even more atrocious - and the republicans whine about how much they have in common with the black community and why won't they vote for us and shit.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, so, all the bits about dodgy voting machines and stuff that makes push polling seem mild, and partisan election officials - that's all known to Teh Foreigners.

But - early votes are counted early and the breakdowns are publicised? Jesus Christ, that's grossly, grossly improper. No decent election counting system would allow that.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

grossly grossly?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

dr. grossly gross

the 48 states competition (1939) (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's 196 times worse than gross.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Bah. I mean 144.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:10 (seventeen years ago) link

So if the GOP steal a 4th election, are you guys going to complain about it or go back to naval gazing?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm going to move to bhutan

the 48 states competition (1939) (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link

just 5 short hours south of vancouver

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link

the breakdowns are publicised?

yes, in some cases, if by breakdowns you mean the party identification of voters (but not who they voted for)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:23 (seventeen years ago) link

hey guys, Broward County is usually 2-1 Dem, but 8% of the country electorate voted early by a 3-1 margin, so democracy is over

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

you should stop taking polls too

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

there's some good links up on metafilter right now, and by surfing a bit from there i found this bit about the ACLU of northern california suing GOP secretary of state bruce mcpherson regarding disenfranchisement of about 150,000 minority voters (linked to from cannonfire- overall credibility unknown, since he also has a story up about aleister crowley being GWB's potential grandfather). sorry if this was already brought up, i haven't been around much lately.

viborg (viborg), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Voted by absentee across the board DFL; will be VERY happy among other things to send Keith Ellison to Congress.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

this bloke seems interesting:

Bernie Sanders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

actually on second glance there's not much directly linked on metafilter that references the election. i guess i was just smitten with that deconstruction of the "mission accomplished" clip with the doublespeak syntax hyperlink, but didn't want to link directly to that cause its obscure. carry on.

viborg (viborg), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Around what time do you think we will know what the deal is? Is it worth staying up for or should on waking up Wednesday morning with nothing being certain?

NB: I'm six hours ahead, much like many of the brits who may or may not be paying attention. But it comes out about the same since things don't seem to be clear until like 2am EST right?

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

R4 broadcasting through the night rather than making the switcheroo to World Service as per normal; cannot remember which of the Today people is covering.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim naughite

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

bernie is a sweet dude - total folk hero in vt.

xp

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope Corker takes Tennessee at least.

And Dolph Lundgren as Himself (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

In the unlikely event any victory tonight makes me feel better than Daniel Ortega's, I will yell BINGO!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I was listening to something about Wal-Mart voters, was that this morning? It was very interesting anyway. To me, at least, as I had no idea Wal- Mart was like that.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The obvious theme song

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Cockburn:

As is the case with the American people overall, the majority of ordinary Democrats want US forces leave to quit Iraq in the immediate or relatively near future. This was not the posture of Democratic candidates approved by [Rahm] Emanuel, particularly in tight races. Most of them have talked about withdrawal as a matter of many months. The Democratic leadership would sign onto a McCain beef-up plan in minutes, flailing away at Bush for the next two years for losing the war...

Campaign 2006 has shown us clearly enough that about the outer limit of popular sanction is the ability to lodge a formal protest on Election Day. ...The fact that this protest is purely formal is attested by the adamant refusal of the Democrats to offer anything by way of a substantive alternative, beyond saying Bush is an incompetent fellow. Indeed, the substantive effect of Campaign 2006 has been to state in terms plain enough for a simpleton to understand, that resistance is futile, since both Republicans and Democrats agree that the Bill of Rights is a dead letter and that wars must go on, and jobs to disappear, despite overwhelming popular disagreement with such policies.

Pick a topic--the war, the economy, a two million-plus prison population, the environment, the condition of organized labor, the Bill of Rights--and can you recall any Democrat this fall having said anything suggesting that in the event Democrats recapture either the House or the Senate or both anything of consequence might occur?

...As things stand in organized politics today a purely formal protest is the most we can hope for, and the significance of this fall's campaign is that no one has pretended otherwise.

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11062006.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Wal-Mart voters = another way of politely saying 'poorly-educated Republicans' as with NASCAR dads.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Voting early, to set a good example!

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp11-7-06c.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

(Apparently one must vote at a fop's crotch.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is the non-Rep-non-Dem person who from the betting sites seems set to take Connecticut btw?

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Lieberman.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh. Even the atheists are praying for Ned Lamont. ESPECIALLY the atheists.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Ed: Ah, right, cheers.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

there was a big thing last time with american media types trying to divine out which segment of the population(real or invented) would tip the thing. CJR Daily had a good time pointing out the twenty or so different slices of the population that were supposed to be key. "nascar dads," "security moms," etc.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm about to take my 87-yr old mother to the polls. The (still paper—small town) ballot has gotten confusing to her, but our politics are the same (good daughter) so I squeeze into the booth with her and go "him, not him, her, not him, yes on this question, no on that one." Totally illegal, I'm sure. Fuck it.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted Finger for Congress (no, I'm not a libertarian, but given the lying corrupt Yvette Clarke this was the best Finger available):

http://www.fingerforcongress.org


for guv and Senate, voted Green (Party, not Mark).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Dr Morbius has convinced me to never vote again. Oh wait, I live in DC.

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Corker or Ford in Tennessee, doesn't matter much to me. Though I'd rather see Corker win, both are ok by me.

But I'm in New York, and I'm really rallying for John Spencer by default.

Orange was a pretty good album, after all.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

And opposing Cockburn, Gore Vidal:

This is the last chance, really, by getting some new chairpersons to head committees in the House ... to have a clean sweep, which, in normal times, if we’d ever enjoyed them, would have happened by now. Now it has got to happen, or welcome to the Third Reich.

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20061105_gore_vidal_the_most_important_election_in_my_lifetime/

(video interview in full)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

They were talking about Wal-Mart not stocking magazines with cleavage on the cover and things like that.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm picturing the late John Spencer from The West Wing. I would vote for him!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a high-tech voting machine behind Bush there

you know, I think Harold Ford just might pull this off

I think today might be the first day in history in which Bernie Sanders has been described as a "bloke." Perhaps it will not be the last.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting post at the Moderate Voice:

Some talk radio shows in San Diego are getting lots of callers from San Diego reporting major problems in voting: long lines, electronic voting machines that don't work, people leaving because they have to go to work.

Some voters have reportedly asked for paper ballots and are filling them out. A judge reportedly has said paper ballots don't have to be counted until Thursday.

Apparently the complaints are coming from voters on the right and on the left. Several callers on one station said they have voted at the same precincts for years and have never seen it so chaotic.

The question that will be debated if reports like this come from throughout the country today will be whether this is due to incompetence or political design. That'll depend on the number of reports such as this and if there is a pattern.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow Ad Nags in the NYT wins the Grand Douchebag of the Year Award. "Even if the Democarts win, they lose"

If the Democrats fail to capture the House and the Senate, it would provide a psychic boost for the White House and some political vindication for Karl Rove, the president’s chief political adviser. But given the intramural Republican squabbling of the past two years, it seems fair to say that nothing much could be expected out of Congress for the next two.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

crats, not carts, obv.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh link to odds sites pls!

here in st louis there are some reports of polls opening late, long lines, but I don't think anything's truly dire. The ballot is kind of long, I hope people don't get tired of waiting. local news said that mccaskill had to wait a half hour to vote and talent had to wait an hour--they both live in republican areas.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh link to odds sites pls!

e.g. www.intrade.com (everything quoted as percentage probabilities)

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

But but you're the one who made me aware of it! :-?

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

there are always great stories of voting in St. Louis.

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

there are always great stories of voting in St. Louis.the United States of America.

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh link to odds sites pls!

http://specials.slate.com/futures

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Ford? it's always possible. I hear Corker's part of the state is in for some very bad weather today.

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

My voting place is in a rest/nursing home, there is something really invigorating about standing in a vote line with people in their pajamas.

diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Keep reloading/scrolling down this page for more Moderate Voice reports of voting problems.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It was inevitable, but I did it this morning... no matter the outcome, I feel sooo much better now.

The shocking thing was, I went right before work, at 7:15am... just 15 minutes after polls started.

I live in a relatively quiet part of Seattle city proper. For this year's primary, I came in at 7:45am and i was the first person to appear at my stationed voting venue.

This morning? I barely got a booth! The people behind me either had to wait, or they had to set up *cardboard on the floor* to respect their privacy and had them vote on the floor! The poll workers only did this because the voter asked for this, because she had to go to work, but the voter did NOT complain!

This is 10 times more active than what I saw at the same place *later* that morning in 2004.

This may just be an isolated incident, but if I'm wrong, this at least could disprove that voter apathy has caused attrition in this country. Just maybe.

That's the only flicker of hope I'm going to offer. I'm going to just try and ignore the news the rest of the day if possible.

But please, my American friends who can vote, please do so if you haven't already.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

no matter the outcome, I feel sooo much better now.

This makes me think of how I've just been waiting for the day after voting two weeks back -- I'm all, "Gah, can it just HAPPEN, please?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll just add that my voting venue has no electronic machines per voter... there's a giant voter ballot scanning machine in the middle that you slide your ballot into afterward, though.

This morning it was broken, so they just had people slide the ballots into the manual slot, which was designed in case the machine broke down. For some reason, I feel more relieved that I inserted my ballot manually. Wonder why.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The current setup down here (I think this is statewide) is that it's an electronic voting machine, but once you finalize your vote, a paper printout scrolls up to the left of the screen showing the results there too. Which is nice.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ford? it's always possible. I hear Corker's part of the state is in for some very bad weather today.

that, and his early voting edge, and Clinton's masterful appearance last week, and two polls in the last two days showing Ford within the margin. I still think Corker's probably got it by about 4, though.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i went to my polling place @ 10:15A. wasn't expecting any problems (since it's in the home district of the U.S. senatorial candidate, bob menendez) -- there was an elderly hispanic lady ahead of me in line who was already marked off as voting absentee, but dunno what to make of that (could be confusion -- she apparently didn't speak any english -- then again, i DO live in hudson county which has a history of dirty [democratic] politics). otherwise no incidents -- there was no-one else ahead of me other than this lady and not many other voters at the polling place (most commuters vote earlier -- i.e., by 9AM -- or in the evening). as i said before, though, i wasn't expecting any incidents.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It's oh-so-comforting to hear that even on this board people are voting Republican, and barely better, Green. Thanks, I guess..;

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my coworkers votes near Foster & Sheridan in chicago and said she waited an hour in line to vote before work and had to leave and is planning on going back afterward.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm probably going to vote green for Gov in IL because our dem incumbant is a crook and he's got a lock on victory.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

why does election day have to just be one day? my county offers early voting, where you can stop in to the county courthouse any day during the week prior to election day and fill out your ballot. i voted last week and there was no wait at all.

and if they're going to insist on an election day and not an election week, why does it always have to be on a tuesday? why not a saturday when people AREN'T working?

and when are people going to start demanding Instant Runoff Voting so voters don't have to worry about sacrificing their vote for the sake of strategy?

ath (ath), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

when one of the two major parties decides it'd work to their advantage to have it - that it'd let them game the system to some extent - and gets the media to push it. and push it. and push it.

when are people going to start demanding that their votes - absentee, paper, digital, whatever - all be counted, fairly and accurately?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, or when Italy starts looking attractive as a political system we want to emulate.

By law, at least in NY, you have two hours off work to vote.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, that's great. I got to the poll at 8:30 AM and was out of there in 15 minutes, no problem -- except this new system they have where you color in a broken arrow probably takes longer than the punchcard. I mean, maybe you can just draw a horizontal line, but I took the time to fill in the whole space.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Mailed my vote in on friday, called folks last night to remind them to drop theirs off, will probably do a little tonight before heading to bar to yell at TV for 3 hours and drink beer.

Am currently printing out map & phone number of local county elections office for coworker who lost his ballot.


xp:

michigan had(has?) the broken line/optical scanner thing, which I always liked, and wondered why anybody would choose any other system.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, or when Italy starts looking attractive as a political system we want to emulate.

This is bar none the dumbest shit you've ever said, which is a bold clam, I know.

IRV makes hella more sense than bullshit party primaries, for one thing. Also, how are we not emulating Italy right now, except maybe for enforcing accountability even less? Buhh??? Duhhh??!?

I wonder how much of this record turnout consists of gen xyz'ers and such.

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

my wife is NEVER on the register to vote, for some reason. sometimes they find her name on another sheet of paper. I checked today and she wasn't on any of them. she also hasn't received a sample ballot or info guide in the mail in years, despite verifying earlier this year that she was registered; but then we checked today and she wasn't listed. it's weird. i think it might be related to her having no party affiliation (for some reason)

anyway i went and voted this morning, not that anything is really a mystery in california.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp11-7-06c.jpg

"MR. PRESIDENT, YOU JUST VOTED ON A COKE MACHINE."

Arkansas looks likely to go straight Democrat in our constitutional offices (Gov., Lt. Gov., Sec. of State, etc.) Add that to our Democrat controlled legislature, two Democrat U.S. Senators, and three out of four Democrat congressmen... and you get a state that would probably vote for Bush over Kerry again.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Gen X actually seems to be one of the most GOP-friendly demos this cycle. Gen Y is slightly more Dem-leaning.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

That is a bold claim! I prefer the relative stablity of American governments, as opposed to Italy's constant churn, but I guess having a new governing coalition every year could be fun.

And personally, knowing the political tendencies of America, I don't really want to see fringe groups getting more influence--or for the country to become even more segmented than it currently is--but you may disagree.

Anyway, god bless, but if the events of this decade hasn't spurred electoral reform, it seems like energies might better be directed elsewhere.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

The current setup down here (I think this is statewide)

It's not statewide. I used the Inkavote optical scanner system this morning (woohoo, owned by a Malaysian gambling syndicate!)

I showed up at the 7am opening and there were already a couple people in line. As I was leaving, I noticed that someone was getting a provisional ballot, but I couldn't hear well enough to suss out what the circumstances were.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It's oh-so-comforting to hear that even on this board people are voting Republican, and barely better, Green. Thanks, I guess..;

I voted Green for senator. I just can't bring myself to ever vote for Feinstein.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Voted Green in that race as well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

in case my post created any confusion, i voted straight Democratic.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

From Pat Buchanan's magazine: GOP Must Go. Immigration/amnesty is their big issue, but hey, you take what you can get.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

what's a little fascism among friends?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

we're f----d

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

what's that website for people recording their voting process?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

From Pat Buchanan's magazine: GOP Must Go. Immigration/amnesty is their big issue, but hey, you take what you can get.

sounds like any dem editorial until you get to the immigration stuff - things is getting weird.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It's oh-so-comforting to hear that even on this board people are voting Republican, and barely better, Green.

In New York, every office is almost always a Dem lock in the general election. Tho if I had to vote for Hillary to give the Dems a majority, it still wouldn't happen. And the Green Senate candidate was antiwar. And fuuuuuck the spineless Dems.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder how much of this record turnout consists of gen xyz'ers and such.

Wondering this same thing myself. All I saw were ancients, but, as I said, my voting machine was in a rest/nursing home.

I ended up voting for at least one Republican candidate in a local election precisely because she was the only candidate who ran a non-slanderous campaign. Thinking I maybe should've thought that through more, but whatev, local KY politics will never be anything short of hilarious.

diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Local politics around here are wonderfully weird. The Libertarians trash the GOP and the Democrats mostly shrug and accept not winning.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted when the polls opened this morning, and it was very quiet and sparsely attended. The only people voting were older folks, but hopefully that just means that most people opted to vote later today.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, memories

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Really long lines at my precinct in Nashville (Sevier Park), where I also cast my first vote, inauspiciouly for Dukakis. As the neighborhood is half black/half lefty white gentrifiers, and hearing that turnout is heavy in urban TN, that's good for Ford. I noticed that more than a few voters spent barely ten seconds on the eight page ballot, which is cluttered with a lot of Metro charter crap and some local, unopposed races.

Dickerson Pike (Dickerson Pike), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

oh you

ath (ath), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

interesting broder piece (w/ some slightly dubious claims including a line about welfare reform i'm sure will OUTRAGE some ilxors) about 94, if o'reilly or anyone seriously try to spin that 'low turnout' line do an a-b comparison w/ 94 turnout. thank god for early voting.

vote carcetti yall

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha. exit polls are embargoed 'til 5pm est at least!

yeah, carcetti did great things for that city, he's looking at the governor's office..

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

hand collection of voter protection link & phone numbers to report any ballot site shenanigans.

There was a report today on local radio that a coupla folks had set up a "temporary ballot drop site" with a cardboard box on the roadside somewhere in SE Portland. The host advised the caller to call the cops next.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://americablog.blogspot.com/santorumx.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ohhhh blount you dick

^@^ (map), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

(Hey, he's the one who invoked Tolkien as a reelection theme...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

We (central KY) had new voting machines, which I found odd since we have already had automated voting machines since like goddamn 96, while just a couple counties away they are still on paper ballots.

diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked that I had the old school ballots. Diebold makes me v. nervous.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

C4 news over here is running a story that Rummy is out tomorrow two people have turned down the job of replacing him and Sen. John Warner is going to replace him.

any other sources?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. No paper trail for Diebold. I filed a complaint about that during the primaries.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post -- Some crackpipe somewhere?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

just checking, it was a throwaway one liner in a long overview piece

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Off to dentist, will check back in later...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Heavy rain all day in Rep-leaning east TN, while dry in the west. Don't know if it'll affect turnout all that much, but it might slightly shorten Ford's not-so-great odds.

Dickerson Pike (Dickerson Pike), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

lolz for stupid headlines:

"Campaign Nears Climax As Polls Tighten"

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Surprise, surprise.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://webpages.charter.net/micah/vote.jpg

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Byron York, NRO whitehouse correspondent, clearly wasn't expecting to do a stand up interview on the news today. he has his brooks brothers suit, shirt and tie, and wearing jeans on his bottom half.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

and when are people going to start demanding Instant Runoff Voting so voters don't have to worry about sacrificing their vote for the sake of strategy?

already implemented in san francisco; on the ballot in oakland.

viborg (viborg), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

IRV = STV?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

no, I think that's the standard uniform of the Modern Conservative Internet Dork (xp)

I voted for what may be the last time on an old big-handle-and-toggle machine - any nyc'ers know when we go high-tech?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i am really terrified i wont be able to vote. i went this morning but there was a 2-hour wait and i had to get to work. :/ :/ :/

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got back from voting, a pleasant stroll two blocks to the poll. New Diebold machines, which prompted my wife to say loudly, "Oh, Diebold, I guess I know who's going to win here." Up jumped this guy in a suit, a Diebold rep we presume, to walk her through the process and show her all the safety features that prove no fraud, backup paper ballot, etc.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

What's with poll closing at 7pm across the US, how are people going to vote after work?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i am really terrified i wont be able to vote.

you will be. if you're in line by 8pm local time, you will be able to vote.

xp

polls are supposed to say open til 8.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

If you're there before they close up shop (7pm, I think), they have to let you vote, right?

This might be able to help:

http://www.vote411.org/

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

vote by mail is awesome.

yetimike (McGonigal), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

poll closing times vary widely by state and municipality. in NYC, polls are open 6 AM - 9 PM.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

That website will tell you when your polls close, according to state/polling place.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

vote by mail would be a great way to piss off karl rove, but i have a lot of problems with that idea

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Air America newsbreak just mentioned that there are efforts in Denver to keep the polls open two hours longer than usual.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i voted before 9 am at PS 139 in brooklyn but it was straight-up in-and-out, ten minutes tops. i did some poll-watching for the sept. primaries and it's not a hugely packed polling place to begin with (some EDs had a turnout of about fifteen people, though presumably there'll be quite a bit more this time around).

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

vote by mail would be a great way to piss off karl rove, but i have a lot of problems with that idea

??????????

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, and dig this shit:

batshit rightwing radio loony Laura Ingraham is now asking her callers to flood the Democratic Voter Protection phone lines.

Most things don't piss me off to violence; this does.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

NPR just interviewed a former-Britishes voting in his first American election who doesn't like Bush but is voting against Menendez because he's always for cleaning up government

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

kingfish gabbneb posted that story like five years ago

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

who doesn't like Bush but is voting against Menendez because he's always for cleaning up government

I'm afraid this is a prevailing sentiment. Logic is a bitch.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

boo.

xp

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

he doesn't like bush -- who's a dimwit leeching offa his daddy's name and connections -- so he's gonna vote for another dimwit leaching offa HIS daddy's name and connections?!? wtf.

xpost

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I knew how to read accents

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/9149

One story after another of voting machine problems...

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

polls to stay open 2hr45min longer in Indiana due to "machine irregularities"

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted around 8 am here in Hoboken. There wasn't much line at all, just a really slow elderly lady in a walker ahead of me. There was much more of a line in '04.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder about this whole 'fuck it, I'm not waiting anymore' demographic. What do people have to do, anyway? Can a burrito GET cold enough? C'mon, people.

Oh, and, as usual, Pat's right.

Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

who doesn't like Bush but is voting against Menendez because he's always for cleaning up government

Even if Menendez has been involved in some shady dealings (which I've never seen proof of) I figure there's no way that he'd be able to do as much damage in Washington as Kean would.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i like that malaysian gambling syndicate voting machine! i mean, i didn't use one, but if anyone is interested in security and process fairness, it's casinos!

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The county in Indiana where all the machines are going coocoo crazy is the one that Indianapolis is in, it may be worth noting. The state capitol! Good job, Indiana!

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

interesting story up on kos about GOP shenanigans in maryland.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I used a marker like the ones you use on CDs to vote today. Connect the arrows, lalalala.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris Cilizza's viewer's guide

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I've still never seen one of those voting booths with the levers and curtains.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

only thing i've ever voted on. what do they have instead of curtains in other places?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I used a marker like the ones you use on CDs to vote today.

sharpie?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

MANUFACTURED BY NUNS

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I know a labor organizer in NJ who's been doing some campaign work for Menendez, feeling entirely like an agent of scuzz.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

xp to gabbneb - hard plastic shells

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

In 2000 I got to vote on one of those connect-the-arrows machines, but they'd switched to electronics by 2004. I voted in 2002 but have largely erased it from my memory, I think maybe it was electronic then.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, mine was a thin Sharpie.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

the Sharpie - workhorse of American Democracy

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

sharpie?

handed to you by T.O. (after he pulled it outta his sock)?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

These GOP tactics should come as a surprise to no one. I can't believe anyone was naive enough to believe the Republicans would allow themselves to lose in a fairly contested election. Come on, it's a GOP majority all around. Maybe we can repeal the 22nd and keep Dubya on to 'finish the job.'

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I've still never seen one of those voting booths with the levers and curtains.

these are the best kind - you really feel like yr voting.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

the lever really makes it official

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

so

http://images.gildia.pl/_n_/film/tworcy/clint_eastwood/foto-200.jpg

well, do you?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I know a labor organizer in NJ who's been doing some campaign work for Menendez, feeling entirely like an agent of scuzz.

It doesn't help that his name sounds vaguely like a synonym for deception: mendacious Menendez.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

My fucking absentee ballot didn't come in! grrr.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Misleading flyers were handed out at several Maryland polling places by men and women recruited by the GOP governor's campaign from out-of-state homeless shelters, the Washington Post reports. The flyers, given to voters in a heavily Democratic area, showed GOP gubernatorial candidate Bob Ehrlich as a Democrat:

Erik Markle, one of the people handing out literature for Ehrlich, who is seeking reelection, and Steele, the current lieutenant governor who is campaigning to replace retiring Sen. Paul Sarbanes (D), said he was recruited at a homeless shelter in Philadelphia.
After a two-hour bus ride to Maryland, Markle said the workers were greeted early this morning by first lady Kendel Ehrlich, who thanked them as they were outfitted in T-shirts and hats with the logo for Ehrlich's reelection campaign. Nearly all of those recruited, Markle said, are poor and black. Workers traveled to Maryland in at least seven large buses.

Ehrlich's GOP ticketmate, Senate candidate Michael Steele, is also listed as a Democrat on the flyer.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001960.php

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

wowayweewah

diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

only thing i've ever voted on. what do they have instead of curtains in other places?

I take a ballot from a poll worker, walk over to a stand that resembles a podium. It has blue risers on it forming a topless box around you for privacy. Velcroed to the podium is a pen resembling a sharpie. When I'm done connecting the arrows, I personally feed it into the ballot box through a device that unfortunately looks like a paper shredder.

I'd like to try one of those booths with the curtains just so I could vote with my dick or do a line off the lever or something.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

so nothing happens until 6pm est at the earliest? where should we go for early results?

richardk (Richard K), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

A bar with happy hour running all night. You'll need it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Quell yr anxiety with the knowledge that things will get worse for the next 2 years, no matter what.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

convo with buddy in omaha:

me: does Klebb have a chance?

Sent at 1:38 PM on Tuesday

chris: dunno

me: hmm

chris: but he is not my district, i don't think

Sent at 1:45 PM on Tuesday

chris: he is district 3
i am district 2

me: ah.
ah well

chris: i have lovely lee terry
who is a total tool

me: hooray

chris: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Terry

just look at him

TOOL

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

how do i shot early election results / exit polls?

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

daily kos exit poll thread

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN says " a lot of surprises";
reasons why people voted:

corruption
terrorism
economy
Iraq - of these 57% disapprove;
"What issues determine your vote?"

62% national
33% local

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks!

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

First exit polls segment on CNN kicks off a full evening of Bill Schneider missing his mark and looking at the wrong camera, and board ops or whoever scrambling to get mic levels right.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Patience! Peruse this while you're waiting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x776#OR

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

OK tell me Karl Rove can pull 6 million evangelical voters out of his ass to make up the deficit those numbers imply.

dems takin' over.

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

No matter how bad it gets, I am looking forward to a live hour of the Daily Show / Colbert Report. Someone at work told me Dan Rather is doing some commentary? Does anyone know if this is true? I miss Dan.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

this is interesting - mostly it's right with the Dem-favoring conventional wisdom, but three races stick out like sore thumbs. one is CO-5, a very Republican district that I think might even be a typo (CO-4, not on the list, is considered closer), but might indicate that the GOP thinks Haggard is gonna have a big impact there. more importantly, the really strange ones are CA-4, a lean GOP district, and CA-50, a likely GOP one. their inclusion suggests to me that the GOP anticipates that the wave is gonna hit the news early, depressing turnout in California enough that it might flip both of those seats.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

haha nice link beth. i actually voted against a similar ballot initiative in florida because it would have made it a state constitutional amendment. don't think it's appropriate, and don't want to have to up against the constitution in court if my property ever gets ganked

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

because rest assured that florida developers will find a way to get around it

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

That just happened to be where I was on the page when I posted the link, but there's a passel of states try for 48-hr notification for parents of minors seeking abortions, also man-woman combo only allowable marriage shit.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody driving folks to the polls today?

of course, if you were, you wouldn't be around to respond, so oh well.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Alright, off I go to pull the satisfying lever (and then be without internet and cable for the rest of the night).

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Here in MA I'm looking forward to our first Dem Gov in forever.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

and then be without internet and cable for the rest of the night).

hell with that. it's bar time! after i get down calling last minute people, i'ma go drink beer and yell at the TV for 3 hours with the rest of the folks i've been volunteering with.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

No matter how bad it gets, I am looking forward to a live hour of the Daily Show / Colbert Report. Someone at work told me Dan Rather is doing some commentary? Does anyone know if this is true? I miss Dan.

I have also heard this.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought I heard Katie Couric announce it last night, in one of those bursts of enthusiasm under which a current of resentment swells and snaps.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

SENATE EXIT POLLS AS OF 5:30 EST: Democrats Leading: Virginia (52-47), Rhode Island (53-46), Pennsylvania (57-42), Ohio (57-43), New Jersey (52-45), Montana (53-46), Missouri (50-48), Maryland (53-46)…GOP Leading: Tennessee (51-48), Arizona (50-46)…“

http://www.huffingtonpost.com

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Has this been posted anywhere else yet? This is appalling!

Virginia voters receiving robo-calls from "The Elections Commission" stating that they'll be arrested if they show up to vote tomorrow.

I seriously think that they should track down the people doing this and execute them for treason.

lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

from that ny times article:

In New York, where polls suggest that Democrats are about to sweep the statewide offices, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton reported that her daughter, Chelsea, had run into trouble trying to cast her vote in Manhattan.

Greeting early morning commuters at the train station in Chappaqua, N.Y., Mrs. Clinton said that when her daughter went to a polling site at 20th Street on the West Side, workers told her that her name was not listed in a book of registered voters.

Investigation found that book containing her name had been sent to the wrong district, so she could not enter the polling booth. But election officials offered her an affidavit vote, similar to the provisional votes used in other states, according to John Ravitz, executive director of the Board of Elections.

“Her vote will count,” he said.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml?ml_collection=77243

yup, Dan Rather is listed as being on.

how much is Keith O going to broadcast tonight?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I seriously think that they should track down the people doing this and execute them for treason.

MoveOn.org is offering at $250K reward.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=75874

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

omg cnn blogger party wtflol

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

omg cnn blogger party wtflol

???

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I wanna see a Dean address to the nation tonight

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

and I don't mean Xgau, though that would be cool too

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I look forward to a cavalcade of Dan Rather southern colloquiallisms

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

HOLY FUCK:

Man sets himself on fire on Kennedy
Drivers watched as he dies near 'Flame' sculpture

November 4, 2006
BY ANNIE SWEENEY Staff Reporter
As horrified Friday-morning commuters watched, a man apparently doused himself with gasoline and lit himself on fire along the Kennedy Expy. near a 25-foot-tall Loop sculpture titled "Flame of the Millennium."
A homemade sign was found near his charred body that read, "Thou Shalt Not Kill," said State Police Lt. Lincoln Hampton. Police are reviewing a videotape that also was found near the body.

The death of the man, whose identity has not been released, was being treated as a suicide, authorities said.

Witnesses told police they saw the man ignite himself just before 7 a.m. near the southbound Kennedy's Ohio Street exit, Hampton said.

The Chicago Fire Department was called to the scene to help extinguish the fire, which was set at the base of the seven-ton sculpture along the Kennedy.

An Illinois Department of Transportation worker was among those to witness the incident, according to a preliminary report.

A can of clear liquid smelling like gasoline also was recovered, the report said.

i'm hearing it's malachi ritscher, who ran savage sound. this is really sad and fucked up.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

GOP Leading: Tennessee (51-48),

: (

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Call me, deej. ;-)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

70% turnout in virginia - holy macaca!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy shit, that is messed up (stence's c+p).

KY polls are officially closed, and I'm outta here, first to drink, then, later, to watch Apocalypse Now for the first time.

diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Voter smashes touch-screen machine in Allentown
The Morning Call

November 7, 2006, 1:19 PM CST

A man who reportedly believed Republicans were conspiring to steal today's election entered an Allentown polling site, signed in and proceeded to smash the screen of one of the electronic voting machines with a metal cat paperweight, poll volunteers said.

Michael Young, 43, of 375 Auburn St., will be charged with felony criminal mischief and tampering with voting machines, according to Ronald Manescu, chief of investigations for Allentown police.

Police gave no motive, but a source said Young, a registered Independent, believed Republicans had conspired to win the election by using electronic ballots. This is the first time electronic machines are being widely used in a Pennsylvania general election.

"He smashed it with the cat's ears," said volunteer Jim Govostis, who watched the incident unfold at Raker Center, a nursing home owned by Good Shepherd, around 12:30 p.m.

Young, who brought the paperweight with him, then sat down, hung his head and waited for police, who arrested him without incident.

"He came in here very peaceably and showed his ID," said volunteer Gladys Pezoldt, "then he got on the machine and just snapped…He was immediately remorseful. When the police came, he got up, turned around and put his hands behind his back."

Lehigh County Board of Elections Chief Clerk Stacy J. Sterner said votes recorded on the machine were saved. More than 130 people had voted at the site by the time of the incident.

"The good news is that even though the machine is broken, the votes are not lost on the memory card. They have them in custody at the voter registration office," Sterner said.

Sterner has worked in the voter registration office for 19 years. "Nothing can top this," she said.

The $5,000 machine will have to be replaced, Sterner said. It was one of two in the building.

Volunteer Shirley Rossetti said Young never spoke as he smashed the screen. "He did a job on it, didn't he?" she said. "It's frightening, because in this day and age, you just never know."

-- reporting by Daniel Patrick Sheehan and Wendy Solomon, The Morning Call

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

smash the screen of one of the electronic voting machines with a metal cat paperweight

ha i like this guy

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

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Britney Spears filed for divorced Tuesday from Kevin Federline, officials said.

The Los Angeles County Superior Court filing cites "irreconcilable differences," said court spokeswoman Kathy Roberts.

Spears, 24, married rapper Kevin Federline, 28, in 2004. They have a 1-year-old son, Sean Preston, and an infant son who was born Sept. 12. The couple have not confirmed the infant's name, which is reportedly Jayden James.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

SHOCKED DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN TURNOUT SURPRESSED BY BRITNEY NEWS ITEM; PUBLIC TOO DISTRAUGHT TO VOTE

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.teaset.com/porcelain%20cat%20teapot.jpg

xpost: allentown & environs are HARDCORE redneck, exactly the type of place where santorum would do at least OK -- so maybe he ISN'T so paranoid after all.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have cable or even an antennae for local television. is there any sort of streaming video coverage anywhere on the internet? thanks.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

GOP Leading: Tennessee (51-48),

: (

-- deej.. (clublonel...) (webmail), November 7th, 2006. (deej..)

out of all the races, if Democrats lose one, I'd most like it to be TN-Sen. face it, Ford is an asshole. he's better than Corker, that's for damn sure, but I won't be shedding any tears for his loss.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"I HEARD THAT."

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp11-7-06u.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

From Salon:

This afternoon, RNC chairman Ken Mehlman's office released a transcript of Mehlman's appearance on The Rush Limbaugh Show this morning, where he suggested that the Democrats might be stealing the election. "One thing I can tell you is this is part of the Democratic playbook," Mehlman said. "And in fact, if you look Rush, at the whole country, we're seeing more problems on behalf of Democrats than any of the alleged problems on behalf of Republicans."

This early foreshadowing underlines my most lousy thought: That in the light of a dem win, the GOp will declare the election invalid.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"One thing I can tell you is this is part of the Democratic playbook," Mehlman said.

Project much?

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted an hour ago: it took about 15 minutes, 12 of which I spent in line. No problems to report. However, when the senior poll worker gave me my permission slip she murmurred either "God bless you" or "Lord help us."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

That in the light of a dem win, the GOp will declare the election invalid.

If they're that desperate to shoot themselves in the foot...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, I just wanted to say that after the results come in, I eagerly anticipate your copy and pasting choice nuggets from the right wing crazy-o-sphere.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

In that case, it's for sure.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Allentown's in a swing district, and the county has voted narrowly for Dems at the Presidential level from Clinton on

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I eagerly anticipate your copy and pasting choice nuggets from the right wing crazy-o-sphere.

Should the GOP hold (I still don't rule it out), then I will avoid political blogs for the most part for a few days. (Did that after 2004, helped my sanity.) Should they lose, another matter entirely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

according to NRO, my own district is likely to Dem (according to "GOP insider"). take that you bitch i served last night at the restaurant who claimed to be the Republican candidate's niece and said you "had the power to convert"

like murderinging (modestmickey), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm gunna need more beer for this.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Guess what happened during these last couple of days, when the world was watching the US? Yes, the same thing that always happens as soon as there's something important in the news: israel has invaded and is withdrawing from the gaza strip again. How predictable.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

16 polling places in Cleveland to stay open till 9pm say CNN.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN east coast projections:

VA no winner can be projected

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like CSPAN has free online streaming coverage, for anybody else without a TV who wants to watch something

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have cable or even an antennae for local television. is there any sort of streaming video coverage anywhere on the internet?


not video, but some of the most informed radio converage you're likely to find- of course with some emphasis on northern california politics (links to sister stations in LA, houston, washington, new york, fresno):pacifica's KPFA radio berkeley


i was hoping alameda county would have some of the sequoia touch screen voting machines that you can supposedly hack, but instead i got a ball point pen and a piece of paper to feed to the sequioa reader.

viborg (viborg), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i tried to find c-span's coverage but gave up. i've been watching ABC News, which appears to be exclusively populated by assholes (Sam Donaldson excepted of course)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Sam Donaldson rules

LOL - CNN's banner reads "CNN projects Vermont independent Bernie Sanders -- who says he will caucus with Democrats -- will win Senate seat, and Republican Richard Lugar re-elected in Indiana." Pretty far out on that limb there!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

KY-3 -> Dem gain with 38% reporting
IN-08 -> 70% dem with 17% reporting

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Screen-smashing dude is my new hero. Will donate $$$ to his defense fund if necessary.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

actually it's "ABC Now"; its second-string anchors are pungently reminiscent of the UK's World Series commentators on Channel Five (Sam Donaldson excepted of course)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh. i wonder if Newshour is gunna have on David Brooks tonight to opine about it all.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:09 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf is happening in MT, anyone know?

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

these ABC Now yo-yos are so pitifully inconsequential they have not in the last 30 minutes even merited a chyron!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

KY-03 GOP 50-49 with 50% reporting

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

lugar is like the only republican i can stand. because of his goofy ass smile.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Sam Donaldson excepted" will be my mantra for the evening.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

also, wasn't lugar unopposed? CNN UR DUM

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

re: Montana -- It's just one poll and i have no clue what the source is, but from myDD(?):

MT: 53-46 Dem

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Lugar opposed only by a libertarian, they called that one first.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

can't remember if we've posted this yet, but FBI has opened an investigation into robocalling in Virginia

Wish there was a better name for it, tho. "wardialing"? "voicemail droids gone amuck"?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Fox News reporting massive GOP turnout in Virginia and Montana - in Virginia exceeding 2004 levels...

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"robocalling" sounds like "drunk dialing" (the two are similar, admittedly)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Fox or CNN going forward, Sky is arse and BBC doesn't start covering till 3am?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN calling Ohio governor for Strickland-Dem

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

goddammit, i hate it when they call races before the fucking polls even close.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

they are hardly mentioning polls being kept open in cleveland, fox mention it every other breath.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha, whoa, "Not a surprise, because Ohio is a cesspool this year." (CNN)

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN calls WV for Byrd (D). Just 22 more...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i need a little color-in-map like we had in '04. it's fun to keep score for yourself!

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

um CNN Pipeline wants me to pay??

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

haha yeah like NCAA basketball brackets, only legislative

xpost

diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

No freesat/freeview, hand?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

no TV, Ed

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

the internet really falls down with truly LIVE events (excluding those that follow preset patterns like sports)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck me, sky news coverage is bad:

Anchor: 'Isn't it refreshing to see an independent coming through from that two party state?'
Pundit: 'That's Connecticut and he isn't really an independent, that's joe Liberman'

Radio 4 should be providing coverage shortly and fox news is offering the chance to watch their radio coverage online.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

what do they show you, live footage of a radio?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I had no idea Robert Byrd was up for re-election. What kind of opposition could his candidacy muster?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

tracer, if you're desperate for tv, go download tvuplayer. you get abc, nbc, cbs, fox, the lot. got me through the world series.

^@^ (map), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't say I have bothered to find out. On the TV fox they have some people punditing on the whingers who complain about robo-calling and disenfranchisement and even deign to retain lawyers before any problems arise.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Tracer, NPR live coverage here starting at the top of the hour.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

3.2pt lead for Webb (D) in the CNN exit polls for VA senate (based on the gender split scores), but we all remember how those numbers failed to account for the heavily pro-GOP third sex in '04.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link

^@^, if it's still PC-only it's no go for me, too

i "hate to say it" but i think NPR would want to make me claw my eyes out even more than the ABC News D-team

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN gives Brown (D) a 16pt lead in OH, but they're not calling it yet (not surprising - it would be the first displaced incumbent).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/ , best for hand

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

starting to listen to the NPR coverage now...

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

3.2pt lead for Webb (D) in the CNN exit polls for VA senate

However, in the real numbers, Allen is 10pts ahead in the first few reporting precincts (could be very Red precincts, I dunno).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen is now behind.

Who is the skeleton in the glasses on CNN?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

That would be James Carville.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed's right - it's Webb by 356k-355k votes from 33% of precincts. I was going to stay up for the call on VA and then go to bed figuring that would probably decide the senate (or at least rule out Dem control if Allen was re-elected), but it's heading for a recount at the mo' and might be the very last significant result instead of one of the first.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

BUH-BYE, MAN-ON-DAWG!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Now Allen by 4,000 or so. I'm not going to F5 that all night...

IN-08 goes to Ellsworth by a huge margin and that's the first gain for the Dems - 14 more required for control.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen by 79 votes, 40% of precincts reporting!

Ok, I really will stop now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually felt a little uncomfortable when Begala called Rush Limbaugh a "drug addled gasbag."

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Another Rep incumbent with a 16pt deficit in a CNN exit poll - Santorum in PA. Apparently one or two networks have now stuck their necks out and called both OH and PA for the Dems.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

BBC saying CBS have called Ohio sen for sherrod brown and polls still open in Cuyahoga county.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

NJ called for Menendez

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

VA - the northern VA heavily Dem counties come in last. so it might be a while!

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN called New Jersey for Menendez over Kean. (xp)

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN calling NJ for Menendez - chalk another one off the list (in this case, the list of vulnerable Dems; Cardin had a 9-10pt lead in the MD exit poll, so that may be safe too).

xp

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

omg awesome. totally going to returns party tonight

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i think webb is going to pull through in va -- i just spent about 20 minutes looking at the county-by-county returns and lining those up with what i know about these areas from the 20-some years i lived there, and the main areas where allen will be getting his votes (western nova, the blue ridge, south and west of richmond) have much higher reporting numbers. tidewater still has a lot of votes to count, as does eastern nova and, most importantly, montgomery county (my home), which is very left-leaning and has MANY votes yet to be counted. i am feeling optimistic!

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

the northern VA heavily Dem counties come in last.

montgomery county (my home), which is very left-leaning and has MANY votes yet to be counted

That's reassuring, chaps - cos it's now Allen by 11,000 with 55% reporting.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN are being VERY cautious - only calling 64 House results whereas CBS have 180+ in (still only one gain but most Dem target haven't come in yet or are still polling).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link

things are looking good generally, but the Foley wave recession seems to have hit Florida - we may not get the 13th or the 16th

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

on the other hand, New Hampshire looks really good

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:50 (seventeen years ago) link

11/7/2006, 8:39 p.m. ET
The Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The Senate's No. 3 Republican bit the dust Tuesday. Rick Santorum, one of President Bush's most steadfast supporters, was routed by Robert Casey, the anti-abortion, anti-gun control son of a popular Pennsylvania governor.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Webb still trailing by 11,000 but only one-seventh of the Montgomery results are in, so he stands to pick up another 6-7,000 in just that county.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

newark star-ledger has predicted that menendez will win via exit polling, though kean leads in the precincts that have reported as of now.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the nets have called menendez

there is definitely an Iraq wave - we're in reach of taking NH-1 and NC-8

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Wolf Blitzer's right hand is more annoying than the Accusing Finger of Green Arrow.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad has called Virginia for the racist fratboy asscracker.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

AP calls NY for Clinton.

Allen's lead - which was 17,000 a little while ago - is down to 6,000 with 66% reporting.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"One thing I can tell you is this is part of the Democratic playbook," Mehlman said.

keep your ears and eyes open for this one - karl rove has been quietly pimping this line of horseshit at republican fundraisers. they love an opportunity to appear as victims.

xp: (weakly)...yayy...menendez. the guy who favors torture but not the iraq 'war' won. yayy...

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim naughtie is shredding the very partisan dem pundit they have on the bbc radio who seems to have come on to make a campaign ad.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

NPR is calling DeWine.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

aparently the santorum camp is already bitching that their votes weren't counted.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

AP calls Lieberman

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

haha welcome to uk politics xposts

stet (stet), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

KY-03 looks to be a dem pickup, 6,500 votes ahead with 96% reporting.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

NPR also calls Lieberman.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link

NPR is citing AP

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link

AP is citing NPR

gear (gear), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

we've got KY-3 = we've got at least ~20-seat pickup

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

they're all citing Ed, from like 2 hours ago. do keep up.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Feeling less confident about VA now - Montgomery is mostly in and Webb has barely won there (51-48). It's Allen by 5,000 with 69% in but, here we go again, the CNN exit polls have been "adjusted" so that Allen edges it by less than 1%. Same frustrations as 2004, where CNN exit polls changed as the evening went on, often swinging by more than the additional number of respondents could likely account for. (Never mind the fact I thought exit polls were supposed to be one-shot affairs).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Cooking up a spaghetti squash with pomodoro sauce from scratch is nicely filling up the time as I wait...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

ugh it's making me so nervous! but i can't turn away.

gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

uh you guys, Johnette Napolitano is now governor of Arizona

http://www.fullinbloommusic.com/images/johnettecig1.jpg

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

American election coverage is always a disappointment after seeing BBC coverage of the last UK race. Britishes do it with flair.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

the VA results aren't meaningful yet - they've only counted half of NoVA

Florida is moving back in our direction, but my Charlie Stuart sleeper pick fails to transpire.

uh you guys, Johnette Napolitano is now governor of Arizona

she's been governor of AZ for 4 years

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

No swingometer, no credibility.

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Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

gabbneb that was JANET Napolitano

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

ali g marathon on hbo for nice election break

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Reuters calls MD for Democrats. (Phew).

(VA neck-and-neck again!)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

A-A-AND IT'S THE SPITZAHHHH

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

nancy pelosi sounds like a fucking speak n spell

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I'm going to sleep now, have a good night, bring me a dem congress in the morning.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

A-A-AND IT'S THE SPITZAHHHH

Oh like THAT was a surprise! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.1115.org/archives/lieberman_cartoon.gif

Joey, baby - dont get crazy
Detours. fences... I get defensive
I know you've heard it all before -
So I dont say it anymore
I just stand by and watch you
Fight your secret war.
Although I used to wonder why -
I used to cry till I was dry.
Still sometimes I get a strange pain
Inside
Oh, joey, if youre hurting so am i.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Now here's a defeatist attitude:

Republican Ken Blackwell conceded the race for [Ohio] governor to [Dem. Ted] Strickland before a single vote was counted.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned can we not revel in wide margins? Just say it. "IT'S THE SPITZAAHHHHH"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned can we not revel in wide margins?

Oh, that's all right, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm trying not to envision hadassah lieberman with bass guitar and moll-cut

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link

MSNBC is projecting Cardin over Steele.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Whitehouse called

Northup concedes

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen now has a 23,000-vote lead with 78% reporting in VA but, scanning the breakdown, Webb has gains of around 15-17,000 coming his way from some of those northern counties. There are still more that can't be trended yet because they haven't returned a single precinct.

(I am doing this all in my head and my margin of error is fuckin' massive).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Here in Florida Negron and Mahoney are in a dead heat; Klein has a razor-thin lead over Clay Shaw.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

my district: Republican leading Dem 51-49, with about half of districts reporting. grr.

bitch i served last night who claimed to be Rep candidate's niece: this isn't over yet.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.musicaos.it/cinecaos/febbraio/jfk_04.JPG

gear (gear), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link

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gear (gear), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Klein wins. Mahoney will be down to the wire. But it looks like Jennings didn't close the deal in the 13th.

I'm feeling secure on Webb - we're still waiting on half of Arlington and Loudoun and 1/3 of Richmond city.

MD Gov called for O'Malley.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate J.C. Watts so much.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

did I misread that Foley was only 1% behind?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

gear with the JFK references, as always... :)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Foley is a 100% behind.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The teeth-gnashing begins:

Party labels aside, Chafee deserved to lose more than any other incumbent. What a lousy senator, a man who is utterly unpredictable because he has no real beliefs.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

YES Biggest Little!!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Shamansky in OH-12 at 49% with 1/3 in, but it's looking like Wulsin just wasn't a strong enough contender in the 2nd (the call I was least confident of).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

ali g marathon on hbo for nice election break

Yes. Just now:
BORAT: "If you give me this job, can I put a camera in the lady toilet?"

many xposts

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

My exit poll frustrations explained by pollster.com:

The NEP analysts are gradually replacing the exit poll talleys in each precinct with actual votes from that precinct. They are also beginning to fill out a second and larger sample of precincts from which they gather hard votes At any given time, they adjust the exit poll tabulations (displayed on CNN) to match the current estimate considred most reliable.

Then it's not a bloody exit poll is it? Serves me right for looking at them - no more tonight.

Allen up by 26,000 - I know Richmond City and Arlington aren't fully in yet, but I don't think Webb has the numbers to turn it round in the last 18% of precincts. This reminds me of looking at the Ohio figures two years ago.

I'll go as far as 95% of VA precincts reporting and then go to bed. Pleasant surprise in the morning, please.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Carcetti wins in Maryland! Hehe.

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Republican Ken Blackwell conceded the race for [Ohio] governor to [Dem. Ted] Strickland before a single vote was counted.

megaroffles

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahead of CNN etc, has it by districts. Don't know if this link has been posted already

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

It has

G F Allen Republican 956,216 49.54%
J H Webb Jr Democratic 950,981 49.26%

with most of NoVA in

vingt regards (vignt_regards), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, the gay marriage/civil unions amendment passed in Virginia, according to NPR.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit, it looks like we could take KS-2

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

omg bruno @ spring break

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, apparently Ford actually has a chance???????

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

god i hope we win VA-Sen. how awesome would it be to not lose a single senate race, other than CT (which is, come on, like a half lose)?

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, vingt-regards! The gap is down to 2,000 on that site. Damn you, Green voters!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The BBC's live news radio station, 5 Live, is actually bragging about broadcasting random moronic shite right now. I'm off to kill some peeps and hope ever'things beautiful when I wake up.

You've Had Your Chances (noodle vague), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i was gonna say, what's up with TN? and all of those NY and PA competitive seats?!?

fwiw, it looks like my parents' repug rep (mike ferguson) is going to get back in! :-(

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

There's still a slim chance in VA. Some of the cities are slow reporting and they seem to be strongly leaning Webb.

vingt regards (vignt_regards), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

say what you will about bob menendez (and his pro-torture vote), but his daughter is FIIIIIIIIIIINE:

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/POLITICS/11/07/election.main/newt1.2150.eln.ap.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

you know who's fine? the m'fin CHANNEL ONE anchorgirl

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Rick Santorum wants to thank God.

MEEEEEE TOOOOOO!

It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

santorum conceding, so sweet.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I know! I was gonna say

xpost

If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

WOULD ALLEN MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT?
TOTAL Allen Webb
Yes (35%) 95% 4%
No (57%) 18% 80%

Haha I srsly thought that said WOODY ALLEN MAKE A GOOD PRESIDENT? and actually thought "why would they ask that?"

But really folx, who are those 4% who didn't vote for the 'good president'??

richardk (Richard K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen up by 17,000, 207 precincts left. Not looking good.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You won't have Rick Santorum to kick around anymore...

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like we've got PA-4

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Santorum's kids crying. Daddy's a hate mongerer.

vingt regards (vignt_regards), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I still think he should do a buddy movie with K-Fed.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"Daddy, don't make us move back to Pennsylvania!"

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretty happy for Deval Patrick over here in Massachusetts (first African American governor in state's history)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, the PA House seats look very good - 4, 6, 7, 8, 10 & 16 could all be Dem gains.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"Daddy, don't make us have sex with our dog!"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

One Odd Thing [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Why do people keep talking about the Democrats' "regaining" or "retaking" the House? It's been 12 years, hasn't it? It's not as though it's naturally theirs.
Posted at 9:57 PM

from "The Corner" of course. ahh, bitterness. sweet, sweet schadenfreude.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link

district 3 and 11 are going to put webb over i think

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Fl-16, looks like Foley's going to be re-elected.

vingt regards (vignt_regards), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope you're right, Tracer. My (elder!) daughter was crying so I've brought her downstairs at 3:20am to cheer on the Democrats. I am a bad Dad.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Dunno about Webb doodz...can we get the Senate without?

richardk (Richard K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

No. MT and MO may go Dem but TN won't and that's all that's in play.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

How could anyone vote for macaca Allen?

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know, and can't say I've even heard of any voting shenanigans in Virginia as opposed to everywhere else. Not that that means anything...

richardk (Richard K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

93.7% reporting in VA, Allen still has that pesky 17,000-vote lead. 24,000 voted for the Green candidate.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

sigh. VA is so close. and the map isn't looking good. TN isn't either. even if we don't make majority, shit, we got damn close, and it's not like an all-or-take presidential election. we have that much more pull in the senate.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

There's an awful lot of votes from Prince William county to come in, though, if I'm reading the website right…

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like Pryce is holding on in OH-15

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Carol Shea-Porter in the lead!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

So far, my favorite post of the evening elsewhere:

Jonah [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
My heart is officially out of the predictions business.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, Prince William County is where I'm registered. Not exactly an "urban democrat" demographic, to put it lightly.

richardk (Richard K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

93.7% reporting in VA, Allen still has that pesky 17,000-vote lead. 24,000 voted for the Green candidate.

-- Michael Jones (tourajsig...) (webmail), November 8th, 2006. (MichaelJ)

someone on NPR just said that exact thing. are you on the radio?

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:38 (seventeen years ago) link

the two districts still under 80% tilt to webb but yeah i was hoping he'd crack 10,000 by now :( - looking at relative turnouts in webb-tilting vs. allen-tilting districts is really irritating

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince William looks fairly close though - 51-48. Webb may pick up another thousand or so there but it's not enough.

One more update and I'm off to bed. Ava doesn't seem like she's ready to go though.

(xp - I guess me and NPR have the same five or six websites open!)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

just got done phone banking for the last 2 hours. Am tired, but they gave me pizza & beer. am now heading to bar with friend. wheeeeee.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Down to 12,000 with 94.2% reporting. Can't we just include DC for the purposes of this election?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

still 10% of district 3 to come in, and webb is trouncing allen there by more than 2-1; you know you don't want to go, mike!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Ava is cheering Hillary on the telly and squealing in a way not appropriate for a quiet London suburb at 3:40am...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link

ALL THE STOPS

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

we might have WY-AL

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

come on district 3 you magnificent bitch

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Who knows guys.. maybe Sen Ensign (R) in Nevada will be caught shitting on the cross of Jesus in a preemptive drunk celebration on TV in the next few minutes... reversing his lead.

(ok, it's a long shot)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Somehow got Ava to bed. 8,000 gap with 95.3% precincts in. OMG!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

haha well done mike.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

c'mon, c'mon! !

gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I already opened my Cassic Lambic and am already drinking.

House is so far looking pretty solid for the Dems, and it would be a super crazy great bonus for the Dems if the Senate came along, which none of us were even expecting anyway not too long ago.

I'm not a huge fan of the Dems, but it looks like, in Andrew Sullivan's words, the "intervention" that are helping to vote in right now is likely to succeed, so at least to that, cheers.

(Prepare for some drunk posts later tonight if things get even better... )

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

NBC is calling the House for the Dems 231-204.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Harry Reid is talking down the Senate chances on Fox. Missori doesn't seem to be heading Democrat way...

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the maximum margin for an automatic recount? Allen's lead is now 13,000 but only three-fifths of a %-age point.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah, apparently the major cities in Missouri haven't reported yet, so I'm jumping the gun somewhat.

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

most of the remaining votes are from Richmond, Newport News and Norfolk, so Webb has a shot at barely making up the difference, but either way this is going to a recount

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ABC schlub just mentioned "The Contract On America" heh

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:02 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

the 48 states competition (1939) (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

12,000 to make up with 103 precincts yet to declare.

What do we know of Olympia Snowe and is there any chance she'd cross the floor?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:04 (seventeen years ago) link

so corker is teh winner in tennessee then?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

TN: Corker 52-47 Ford with 76% results in. Oh well, "we" got the House.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd say that there's a chance Snowe flips, but I doubt it. She may follow the Lieberman route of staying with her party, but seeking a larger role as a centrist/independent power broker.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

if Chris Shays wins, she's not going anywhere

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Frankly, I'm mortified, folks.

Menendez, Hevesi, Ted goddamm Kennedy. Dems are voting 'no war' and have NO PLAN WHATSOEVER after that. No one gives a shit that the people they're nominating are crooks and thieves.

I'm actually shaking with rage.

Way to go, America! Way to stick it to "Dubya!"

Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, Howard Dean was just on CNN saying that Dems are still pretty much anti-troop withdrawal, even though 50% of the public support it in some form.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN projects Dems take the House

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link

my local ABC affiliate is scheduled to be showing a program entitled "Vote 2006." actually showing: circa '92 ep of America's Funniest Home Videos

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd say the two are pretty ideologically consistent.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Any chance that there's a cache of postal or provisional votes that are not included in the VA totals?

Webb just looked like he was going to concede but just mumbled something about "hang in there". 13,000 with 83 precincts left.

Time for bed. Good night, USers.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

who replace roger with ed anger?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. Clay Shaw was defeated by 4 percentage points -- thet 25-yr vet goes down.

Tim Mahoney unseated Joe Negrone, Mark Foley's replacement.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Shea-Porter wins in NH, and Kissell creeping back up in NC

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

VA margin down to 7500

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Hall leading Kelly in NY-19

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

IA-2 is 50-50

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

VA down to 5000

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Maryland senate race still a factor? Numbers changing in Missouri.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

30,000 absentee ballots uncounted in Fairfax County? I'm having 2000 flashbacks.

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

where did you hear that?

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

um, so i guess chasing lieberman out of the party wasn't such a good idea after all (not that I like him)

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

we're still waiting on Richmond in VA. I think Webb's got it.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - on MSNBC (via the CNBC telecast).

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm Joe Lieberman and I approve of this election."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus this is close. how long will we have to wait to hear from these mid-west states? I want to know how MO will turn out before i go to sleep.

and why the hell isn't my own next congressman determined yet? come on, Kissel. come on county counters, you suck.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

"Lieberman is counted for the Democrats," sez NPR. Yeesh. Can we give Webb back?

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

VA down to 3000

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Maffei falls just short in NY-25, and WY-AL tightens to even, but Wulsin coming back in OH-2, and Cranley leading slightly in OH-1

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Where are you guys getting your numbers on VA race? MSNBC seems behind you.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want a Senate majority, which is bound to be thinnest, if those two assholes are the swing votes. Got the House though, h'mm.

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

leading in IA-2

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

VA Senate #s

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

WEBB AHEAD ON MSNBC

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

btw is anyone else asking wtf is up with the MO numbers? they're the opposite of the polls.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Richmond is still outstanding in VA. Webb is your next Senator from Virginia.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

VA-Sen is going to give me a heart attack

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

gabbneb, Fox were saying that the MO cities tend to report quite late, so that may explain the current situation there.

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait, I wasn't refreshing properly - a lot of Richmond has reported, so it's going to the wire

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Webb within 2000

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

MSNBC has him up by 2500, 99% in.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14289273/

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

is this election the quaintest in ages? i can think of few of less consequence, viz. this is more or less a continuation of Do Nothing Congress v 2.0, imho.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah richmond will only deliver about 1500 more by my estimate. arlington may still have 1000 to give.

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link

mn gov is giving me conniptions

geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

U.S. House - District 8 - 204 of 205 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
Hayes, Robin (i) GOP 59,489 50.70
Kissell, Larry Dem 57,853 49.30

from charlotte.com.

i'll have to wait a few more years for my next congressman. sigh. god damn it.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

KARL ROVE BABY. HE'Z GOTSDA MAGIC AS WE'VE SEEN WITH DA HOUSE, HOOCHA!

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"OH WE'LL JUST LOSE TWELVE SEATS BUT WE'LL STILL HAVE IT"

ROVE DA MAN NOW DOG!

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Schumer seems very confident about Missouri and Montana...

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Webb ahead on CNN.com now too

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I kinda want to see Rove doing his usual grinning and laughing thing tomorrow, just to cause everyone to flip a bit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm Joe Lieberman and I approve of this election."

I heard that while taking a dump, and I wanted to fling feces @ my TV after he said that. Go lick a pork sausage, Joe.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm totally cool with a 50/50 senate minus Senator Shitmixture and an executive that's hated to the tune of sixty-six percent. Nancy and the Zombies should provide some interesting song and dance from the cabinet - the promise of no impeachment proceedings might very well come with a long list of ancillary demands *fingers in pretzel shapes* and I imagine a lot of those R's in the upper house might actually want to keep their positions after Cheney goes down in a medley of flames and impervious circulatory plumbing.

Is it too early to say FUK U CREATIONIZTS

I think NOT

LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Sweet. At least the "official" language of Arizona is English now. [I'm re-reading Benedict Anderson's Imagined Communities right now, and this concept is more than a little surreal.]

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

George Allen ahead by 1757, according to Board Of Elections, sez NPR (and yeah correspondant guaranteeing recount, also write-in votes could tip it: Kermit The Frog cited as one potential decider)

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not easy being the decider

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

ban same-sex marriage *losing* in AZ. not that it makes a practical difference: already statutorily illegal. but how many times has a ban lost?

W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Here we go with the mandatory "victory for the American people" speeches

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus that VA thing is really some photo-finish stuff

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlotte.com

U.S. House - District 8 - 205 of 205 Precincts Reporting
Name Party Votes Pct
Hayes, Robin (i) GOP 60,500 50.19
Kissell, Larry Dem 60,032 49.81

oh, there better be a motherfucking recount. less than 500 votes off!@#@!

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I realize NC-08 isn't nearly as exciting as VA-Sen, but damn, talk about a photo finish! you should be close enough to care, Tallis.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

good news: abortion ban loses in SD.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah! A bright spot indeed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

WA-8

D-Burner: 50.2312%
R-Reichert (i): 49.7688%

That's just 200 votes. There are more people on my floor of the building I work at in Redmond than that.

I have no clue which part of the eastside has reported yet. Very interesting. A Burner win would be yet another cherry on top, etc.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Fox is giving Webb the edge in VA. Also Kristol is saying that the Republicans are fearing that the city vote in Missouri will turn that vote to McCaskell.

carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (news, bio, voting record), the Democrats' vice presidential candidate in 2000 but running as an independent after losing the Democratic primary, kept his seat from Connecticut.

heh, kind of had to read that last part a couple of times to make sure I got it right.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Boyda wins in KS-2!
Hall about to pull off NY-19!
Hafen right there with Porter in NV-3!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway -- first female Speaker of the House ever! Cool!

Jim Ryun going down makes me happy because of that hilarious story about Cheney's little pageant with him in front of true believers a few weeks ago. I hope everyone there is crying pukingly right now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

hall is the "still the one" 70s soft-rocker dude, right?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link

state politics: corrupt Democratic N.C. member of state congress, Jim Black, wins by seven points

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and we have a socialist in the Senate now too. I'm all for that!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway, while (a) i woulda liked to have seen stender beat ferguson in NJ-07 (my parents' district, and the current district of my old hometown); (b) i woulda LOVED to have seen lieberman eat shit and lose (and thereby spare everyone the grief that i believe from the bottom of my heart that he is going to unleash [though i would love to be proven wrong on this account]); and (c) i woulda LOVED to have had VA and MO definitely settled before i go to bed (as in like right now); on the whole i am rather pleased with tonight's results.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, let's get to the amusing quotes now. here's little green footballs celebrating:

The first paragraph of Reuters’ report on the win of former Nation of Islam spokesman Keith Ellison in Minnesota says it all: Minnesota sends first Muslim to Congress.

MINNEAPOLIS, Nov 7 (Reuters) - Voters elected a black Democrat as the first Muslim in Congress on Tuesday after a race in which he advocated quick U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and made little mention of his faith.

They’ll be celebrating in Gaza tomorrow.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like Schmidt hangs on in OH-2

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Kagen picks up WI-8

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, let's get to the amusing quotes now.

I already have some plans for that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

God please let Joe Courtney beat the snot (relatively speaking) out of Rob "HOMELAND SECURITY" Simmons. (According to CNN - 95% of the precincts reporting, Courtney w/ a 400 vote lead!)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

good news: abortion ban loses in SD.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Questions to Montanans re: Ned...

If Burns wins, and he gets indicted via the whole Abramoff thing, does Burns reappoint someone, or is there a special election?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Michelle Bachmann's crazy ass runs away with MN-06. Enh.

nate p. (natepatrin), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

that's still the one, Tad, and he's our 25th pickup of the night so far

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There's nothing amusing about that LGF bullshit! Oh my God, that comments section feels like reading N4tional Fr0nt propoganda.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

OH-1 falls away

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Meantime:

The Post-2006 election schadenfreude thread

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

NPR says script flipped: now it's Webb 'head (Marvel Comics reference) by 1700, 18 precincts left to report!

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa - McCaskill pulled ahead of Talent! (74% in)

CNN has Webb up by 2300.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

mn gov goddammit. i want pawlenty's political career to be ovaaaaaah

geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Pombo's losin OH YEEEAASSSS

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Grant ahead in ID-1 with 20% in

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Duckworth conceded

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuxor. I really wanted her in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

50% in for WA-8.. Burner trailing barely...

Darcy Burner/Democrat 30,148 48.7863%
Dave Reichert/Republican (i) 31,648 51.2137%

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

mn gov goddammit. i want pawlenty's political career to be ovaaaaaah
-- geoff

Also, Rep. Bachman, YOU ARE A MOUTHBREATHER.

We suck.

John Justen will insert a ship in your cat for no additional fee (johnjusten), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:00 (seventeen years ago) link

rofl from reichert's page

Congressman Reichert's office has received calls from constituents who have gotten an automated 'robo' call from American Family Voices and wish to be removed from their list. These calls did not originate from Congressman Reichert's office, nor do they have anything to do with him. If you wish to be removed, please contact American Family Voices at 202-393-4352 or afv@americanfamilyvoices.org.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

TIM! WALZ!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

good news: abortion ban loses in SD.

whoa, really? that's great, but wasn't that ban already effective as of march? was it overturned somehow?

ath (ath), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel bad for Chafee tonight. Mostly for losing, because he's a real decent guy. But also because Wolf Blitzer called him 'Lincoln Cheney' on two separate occasions.

rems (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, hoping the returns in WA-8 are coming from east to west.. the closer they get to Bellevue, Redmond, Kirkland/Juanita, the more promising for Burner.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

NM-1 is tiiiiight

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

WA-8 is mostly reporting from the Pierce county portion of #8, which is more conservative... hmmm, this one could be tight as well.

election pr0n

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link

a poll out last night showed Burner leading early voters by 8 and trailing the rest by 5, which put her in a statistical tie. i figure her voters are more motivated, and while the CW is rain favors the GOP, i think she wins in a nailbiter.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN say VA. votes to be canvassed til Nov.27, *then* (if winner still ahead by only 1%), then they have a recount. So right after that, they show Webb declaring VICTOREE, with still 1% of precincts (18 precincts )still to be counted the first time. But yes, McC.'s ahead by 1400 votes now, and still got most of St.Louis to report

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Testor leading by 53% (shouldn't they be done counting by now? Only a million people in the whole state)

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Testor's not that hot either though, libertarian at best. Huffington's complaining that Obama and others have been already cautioning voters to lower expectations (but the war's not going to be so convenient for anybody)

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like Pat Murphy pulled off PA-8 by a hair, and Loebsack may have actually deposed Jim Leach

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link

those Iowayans and their 'sacks

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama and others have been already cautioning voters to lower expectations

Rightly so!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

stem cell failed in MO :(

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

There will be a Bush press conference tomorrow at 1 pm EST. This will be amusing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Webb asserts victory

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

WA-8

King County (Eastside)
Updated: 11:57 p.m. ET
14% of precincts reporting

Burner 21,620 50%
Reichert (Incumbent) 21,421 50%

Pierce County (Eastside)
29% of precincts reporting
Updated: 1:06 a.m. ET
Reichert (Incumbent) 13,353 56%
Burner 10,449 44%


gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

And looks like Steele is conceding too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Lampson-D looking to take Delay's spot. (yeah yeah, shaprize)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Hotline lists as "Recount races": CT 02, FL 13, GA 08, IA 02, NM 01, NC 08, PA 06, PA 08, WY AL

and quotes Webb from CNN: "It's getting pretty late. I wanted to say I appreciate what Senator Allen said a few minutes ago. ... I'd also like to say the votes are in and we won"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's see, a year ago DeLay was still majority leader, Cunningham, Ney, Weldon and Foley were all in the House...satisfying, this.

Anyway, let's see what assholes and fools have now been elected among the winners. It'll be a long two years but not uninteresting ones.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

That 2433rd booth that just seems to have come in musta been hella blue!

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:47 (seventeen years ago) link

So the rumblings are growing big time that the Senate is well within Democratic grasp. Hmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Well the only uncalled races are MT, MO, and VA. All look to be going dem.

wostyntje (wostyntje), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And at that moment, Lieberman will switch parties.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Webb recounting will be fierce, but yeah, that's looking damned promising. Hmm! Roll on an even *more* interesting two years, then, if this holds.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 06:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Mccaskill declared victory

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Least depressing election since 1992!

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Hooray!

I went to the gigantic dem returns watch party on the hill. it was awesome. right before emanuel and schumer came out to speak the webb 50% / allen 49% came up on CNN and everyone went crazy. bye, sen. macaca!

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Least depressing election since 1992!

I was actually thinking that earlier tonight!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:13 (seventeen years ago) link

more from Hotline's night

Howard Dean: “Chuck Schumer and Rahm Emanuel deserve an enormous amount of credit.” He then plugged his 50-state program (CNN). More Dean: "I'm delighted because we're finally beginning to become a national party again after all these years" (CNN).

DNC chairman Howard Dean: “Today the American people sent a clear message for a new direction. Voting for hope and opportunity, they rejected the Republican culture of corruption and the politics of fear and smear. I want to congratulate all of our Democratic candidates who ran strong campaigns, worked hard, and offered the American people a clear choice and a strong vision for a new direction based on the priorities of the American people. The American voters also sent a message to Democrats that if we show up, work hard and ask for their vote, we can win in any part of the country. I also want to congratulate Representatives Emanuel and Pelosi, Senators Reid and Schumer, DGA Chair Governor Bill Richardson and DLCC Chair Joan Fitz-Gerald, Colorado State Senate President, for their hard work. Our work doesn't end tonight; it begins tomorrow as we put forward an agenda that puts the American people first. Democrats are unified and ready to change the tone of politics in Washington to get things done for the American people.”

Howard Dean will appear at the Nat’l Press Club at 10:00 am ET today.

McCain, asked when he first noticed corruption becoming a problem: "Seven or eight years ago."

ABC showed a minute of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s (D-NY) victory speech live. Clinton said: “I just think that democracy is great.”

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL), on going to IA and NH: “I would really shake up everybody if I did that” (Palm Beach Post blog).

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) on what he said to a conceding Katherine Harris (R): “I told her that I had seen her on TV today out in the rain… and that I hoped she had dried off.” (“The Buzz”).

Dick Gephardt, stating the obvious: "This is like the '94 election, but in reverse" (MSNBC).

Also: MSNBC’s Matthews noted that Gephardt has not gotten fat.

Newsweek's Fineman, on what helped Whitehouse in RI: "He was a homeboy, too" (MSNBC).

NBC's Williams, playing SEN favorites: "The Montana race has been one of my favorites" (MSNBC).

Channeling Yoda, ABC's Gibson: "Exciting it will be indeed tonight."

ABC's Gibson, on being sort of amused: "I'm sort of amused that we will have a Whitehouse in the Senate"

Comedy Central’s Dan Rather said HRC “ran away with it like a hobo with a sweet potato pie.”

More Rather, on PA 10: “If you ain’t got the yolk, you can’t emulsify the Hollandaise. … It’s simple, Jon. If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t eat your pudding.”

Rather: “I realized pretty early on that I was just a four dollar gopher in a two dollar pelt.” Stewart: “That’s an insult, right?” Rather: “Yes it is, Jon.”

CBS’s Schieffer, on flight patterns: “This airplane is landing exactly at the airport we thought it would.”

NBC's Gregory: "The president I'm told is likely to retire some time soon tonight" (MSNBC).

Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), in his acceptance speech: “Thank you, thank you, thank you! ….Thank you, Lord! (FNS). Menendez will greet diners at IHOP tomorrow (release).

Stephen Colbert has two cakes: “Congratulations Republicans,” says one. The other: “Congratulations Terrorists.”

Tonight the USA Network aired “End of Days,” starring Arnold Schwarzenegger (Political Punch). Meanwhile, EW.com has a cute article on how Britney Spears filed for divorce on a day many states vote on gay marriage.
, (Pop Watch.Ew.com)

It is reported Joe Negron (R) left his party crying after losing to Tim Mahoney (D) in FL 16 (MSNBC).

Bill Bennett on CNN: "You will see a draft movement for Rick Santorum to run for president of the United States."

Ken Mehlman, speaking in third person about the war in Iraq: "The chairman is not out there saying I understand the nuance of policy" (MSNBC).

LOVE ME CHICKEN TENDER: FNC's Baier reports, senior WH aides are saying that the mood at the WH is "generally upbeat." Also, the senior WH staff "just ordered chicken tenders," anticipating a long night (FNC)

ABC's Donvan reports that Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) has lost his voice.

RedState is calling for scrubbing of Rep. Denny Hastert (R-IL) and election of Rep. Mike Pence (R-06) as leader of the House GOP and Rep. John Shadegg (R-AZ) as Whip. "The Directors" of RedState describe the GOP as "rudderless" under the leadership of a White House governing without "conservative principles first" and call on all GOPers to "decisively reject the idea of "big government conservatism." (The Blogometer)

"MSNBC's Matthews, observing the celebratory behavior at the Dems' HQ: "Rahm Emanuel appears to be doing some kind of dance."

MO SEN: Claire McCaskill came on stage to “Respect” (MSNBC). McCaskill, addressing supporters: "This election was not about me. This election was about you" (MSNBC). Talent conceded at 2:03 am ET. Talent, addressing supporters: "All our efforts fell a little bit short this time."

MT SEN: FNC's Shepard Smith, after hearing U.S. News’ Barone's analysis of the MT race: "I'm not sure what just happened" (FNC).

I'm sort of in love with Chuck Todd by now

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Webb is up by like 12,000 now.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:18 (seventeen years ago) link

It was admittedly a longshot, but I'm still sad that Jimmy Carter's son lost in NV along with Jill Derby (her ads were fantastic!)

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:22 (seventeen years ago) link

is there still time for Repub Nevada Senator Ensign to crap on the cross of Christ?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

WOOOOOT

if you ain't got the yolk, you can't emulsify the hollandaise (fauxhemian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that would have been nice. Another time, maybe.

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) on what he said to a conceding Katherine Harris (R): “I told her that I had seen her on TV today out in the rain… and that I hoped she had dried off.” (“The Buzz”).

!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(First comment being an xpost to Elvis, though certainly, another time for Ensign to crap on the cross, please!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't exactly have high hopes for speaker pelosi, but if she plays it smart, could get some solid legislation thru. That said, will anyone mourn the end of Speaker Hastert? easily the least distinguished congressional leader in my lifetime, losers like that sure made the dems job tonight a lot easier.

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Loebsack defeats Leach!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Only 56% of the vote's been returned in Montana (pop 1,000,0000)(is this what our Roving boy was so twinkly about yeasterday)

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:26 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i'm feeling a little better now, and far better than i did 2 years ago

xpost

It’s simple, Jon. If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t eat your pudding.”

hahaha

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:26 (seventeen years ago) link

but if she plays it smart, could get some solid legislation thru

Past Bush's veto?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oregon state house is now democrat-controlled once again. The stupid TABOR and parental notification initiatives went down in flames.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Rahm Emanuel is hilarious. he just couldn't stand still up there on stage.

Schumer said McCaskill and Tester both on track to win (this was at 11:30 or so EST).

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp11-7-06ddd.jpg

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

meet your new overlords!

if I'm counting right, we've picked up 28 seats, with a solid chance to pick up another 6

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:31 (seventeen years ago) link

"Past Bush's veto?"

that's where the smarts come in - figuring out what's possible, where bush will cave, so at least something gets done before he's shown the door.

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:33 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha

from CNN.com right now, for "most watched" vids:

1. Clinton victory speech (3:29)
2. Kirstie Alley's new look (3:17)
3. Sour note at CMA awards (:40)
4. Analysis on Santorum (4:01)


God Bless American Culture

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:33 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: Analysis on Santorum vs santorum on analysis.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

you can't have analysis without ANAL

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning all, MT an VA still in play and showing up going the right way, well done america.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

shit. Tester down to only a 7K lead @ 72%. C'mon, c'mon, urban precincts!

in other news:

webb at 9500 in lead, at 99%.
-Fairfax City at 86% (webb up)
-Isle of Wight at 92% (allen up)
-Loudoun at 96% (webb up)

I'm disappointed that Jean Schmidt from Ohio was re-elected.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link

could be a recount in Schmidt-Wulsin

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Helena was a huge factor in Tester's lead, so give it up for Lewis And Clark county.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Gallatin county (which has Bozeman) and Cascade county (which has Great Falls) have barely reported yet... so these guys might make the difference.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, CNN reports Schmidt-Wulsin at 113,736 vs 111,332.

Unfortunately, John Laesch lost to Denny "No Longer Speaker of Jack Shit" Hastert by 39K, which ain't actually too bad for a newbie union carpenter in a conservative suburb.

Shimkus won, too, so maybe the damage from Foley was minimized.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:50 (seventeen years ago) link

oh Christ, i just remembered that we're gunna have to live thru another 2 months worth of dumbass pundit and MSM types trying to cobble together some half-assed narratives to explain the results

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:52 (seventeen years ago) link

and give it up for the dem House member from MI-13, who ran un-opposed: Cheeks Kilpatrick.

Really.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Tester will win.

we're taking the senate!

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

All right, need to get some sleep. See everyone in the morning.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

damn, Tony Trupiano lost his House race in suburban detroit. He gave up his radio show to run. Skinner did, too.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Shimkus won, too, so maybe the damage from Foley was minimized.

the only races it really impacted, it seems, were Foley's district and KS-2

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

No Sleep til Pombo

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I'LL KEEP U COMPANY WITH DRUNKEN TYPOES

if you ain't got the yolk, you can't emulsify the hollandaise (fauxhemian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:00 (seventeen years ago) link

We can do our own. Webb's now ahead by 11,000, which Toobin, who wrote a book about recounts, says no way will anything like that be overturnable or makeruppable, although, if lead is less than 1% of total votes reported (which is true in this case, so far), Allen can request recount. One thing may make a significant difference, theoreticaly, is provisional ballots, which will be examined tomorrow (or today, Wed, I mean). These are ballots set aside, like "Oh, you always voted here, Cousin Bob? Well, maybe you *are* 'really really registered', we'll just check that out! But now it's time for beddy-bye."

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

WA-08.. the gap is closing now between Burner and Reichert such that Eastside King County precincts are coming in with Burner at 51% there, and 56% for Reichert in Pierce.. Eastside King Co. has more folks though, and less weather problems. No clue how this will turn out.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like Sali's gonna pull through

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'know, the sky cleared up and the rain stopped this afternoon in portland. it was a beautiful evening at 4:30pm.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:09 (seventeen years ago) link

White House irked after GOP candidate snubs Bush

PENSACOLA, Florida (AP) -- The White House did not hide its irritation Monday at Florida GOP gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist for ducking President Bush at a campaign rally in the Republican-friendly Panhandle.


looks like he chose well, too. dude won by 320K.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

raw ass MT results:

Jon Tester -- Stan Jones -- Conrad Burns -- Total Votes
County Totals -- 140883 -- 6856 -- 132183 -- 279922

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link

hey waitamin, that pro-stem-cell thing passed in MO, didn't it?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it did

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

that story was from allentown, illinois you idiots

i'm enjoying the dems victory, listening to lynyrd skynyrd

enjoy this:

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/2006108rr_santorum_concedePJ_580.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be crying if they made me wear that dress on national TV.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

also:

(pop 1,000,0000)

ilx's resident libertarian shows his math knowledge!

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

that story was from allentown, illinois you idiots

what story?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm really more of a socialist, honest. A lot of those anti-gay amendments that passed, banned civil unions as well as marriage. More evidence that, if not for The Media telling it wrong about the victory in Iraq, the Roving wouldn't be experiencing technical difficulties at the moment.

don (dow), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 08:57 (seventeen years ago) link

kaus:

Obvious Big Post-Election MSM Theme #!: Why can't more Republicans be flexible like Schwarzenegger. ... [Theme #2?--ed 'The Red state/Blue state divide is over!'] 9:35 P.M.

NBC's anchors Russert, Brokaw and Williams can't be Democratic or Republican, liberal or conservative--that wouldn't do!--but they can be relentless, tedious advocates of bipartisanship and moderation. Isn't that an ideological position too? ["Bipartisanshp" is a blazing arrow pointing at ...-ed "Comprehensive" immigration reform, I know.] 8:17 P.M.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Hooray! (I've said my piece, now backing out of thread.)

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link

POMBO SENT BACK TO THE RANCH

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ben, go to sleep. you have a "real job" to quote blount.

and the story was the bash the election machine with a ceramic cat from upthread. get one jaymc spreadsheet.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:18 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf @ fursuit bumpers on msnbc

Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discovergrandcanyon.com/gallery/ralph%20sunrise.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discovergrandcanyon.com/gallery/ralph%20sunrise.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

and the story was the bash the election machine with a ceramic cat from upthread. get one jaymc spreadsheet.

it was Allentown PA

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I AM LISTENING TO MRRRRR. WILSON BY JOHN CALE AND ENJOYINGNGGGGG THE VICTORY TOOOO!!!!! THANK YOU HSTENSIL FOR CLAIRIFIYING. BTW I ADMIRE YOU V .V. MUCH. T5HAT'S ALL FOR EVERYONE

if you ain't got the yolk, you can't emulsify the hollandaise (fauxhemian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

WA-8 tightening...

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to bed here in London to avoid the whole thing sending me into sleep deprivation mania and even then they were encourgaging the Rsholes to kiss Virginia goodbye.

JUst left note on flatmate's door saying America has spoken and it said SOD OFF DUBYA.

Ah and the lovely, lovely schadenfreude of Katherine Harris losing and getting rained on. Hope this puts a lid on the bitch's ambitions.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa ... Arizona voted against banning same-sex marriages! And if all the other ballot initiatives have predictably consecrated antigay legislature, quite a few of them were way waaaaay closer calls than in '04, which nearly every state with such measures went lopsided on behalf of banning gay marriage by 3-1 margins.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, there but for the grace of God go Tennessee and S. Carolina...

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

SDak also canned the horrible abortion bill they had on the cards and was scaring the crap out of me, because those people all come to my home state and we send our doctors to SDak to the one damn place in Sioux Falls that does terminations.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Hope this puts a lid on the bitch's ambitions.

i'm sure it will for about five minutes. she'll be a lobbyist within a month, though.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Tester's lead in MT now just 2,800 with 90% reporting.

Great finish from Webb! I think he can expect to pick up the lion's share of absentee ballots that are left to count but, with 0.3% in it, I don't think Allen will concede for weeks.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The remaining MT booths don't look crash hot for Tester.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

How can that hair not win.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

ed, that ad is briliant

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

didn't the bloke do well !

Bernie Sanders now in the Senate
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/localnews/ci_4622121

BURLINGTON - Hundreds of supporters chanted "Bernie! Bernie!" at a victory party that welcomed the maverick independent congressman who calls himself a "democratic socialist" into the U.S. Senate.

"The people of Vermont have told America they are sick and tired of right wing extremism!" Sanders told the crowd, which punched red balloons into the air. "This election tonight may be the end of a campaign, but it is the beginning of a grassroots movement across America!"

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Vermont is now a Red State.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

So funny. So very, very funny:

http://www.freerepublic.com

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Though also quite scary. In Freeper world, it's un-American to criticise the President and treason to vote against his party. Unless, of course, the Prez happens to be a Democrat, in which case HE MUST BE IMPEACHED.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

xp A Girl, 4, Who Is So Sad She May Need Anti-Depressants is no laughing matter.

Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Call a lawyer

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It will be a 25 foot wave, but I'm thinking it will be a pickup along the lines of 30 seats for Dems in the House. A wave that big will probably be big enough to add enough collateral damage in the Senate, and here's what I think: Dems will win MD, MO, NJ, OH, PA, RI, and VA.

-- don weiner (dandydonweine...), November 6th, 2006.

betting balls, etc.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

you forgot MT

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/2006108rr_santorum_concedePJ_580.jpg

She is not the person in this photo I want to see crying.

Here's hoping this photo doesn't follow her throughout her life like a bad penny, and that instead she grows happy in a...I dunno...Christian lesbian electronic music collective or something. And that she always has that doll, and that doll's outfit always matches her outfit (or vice versa), that would so rock.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

(grows up happy, I mean. You know what I mean.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Affirmative action ban OK'd

Jennifer Gratz, the U-M applicant in 1995 who was wait-listed and later spurred the case heard by the Supreme Court, served as the executive director of the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative, sponsor of the proposal.

"I am excited and hopeful that Michigan will finally be a place of equal opportunity for all," Gratz said Tuesday. "The people of Michigan are the ones who have won today. They stood up to big business, big labor, to the entire establishment and said, 'We want to be treated equally.'"

Let's all sing "We Shall Overcome"

The Denny McLain (Andy_K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

does the american version of AA demonstrably lead to a disproportionate population of ethnic minority and women workers in the jobs that are AA'd (i.e. literally out of proportion to the population who apply for those jobs) or is it just bollox?

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

has MT been officially called yet gabbneb?

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

answer: no

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

it's bollox, Alang

there are criticisms of AA but that's not one (mine: that most AA programs reward the economic and cultural elite of the groups they are trying to help)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

>> but if she plays it smart, could get some solid legislation thru

> Past Bush's veto?

In that scenario, the next two years amount to a setup for 2008 - if Bush consistently vetoes every progressive piece of legislation to come down the pipeline, the Dems just get an even bigger boost than they had going into this election, with a "Do-Nothing President" to wave around. Bush isn't going to let that happen, so expect the "Uniter, not a divider" stuff to come out of mothballs for some unlikely compromise legislation. See also: 1996 welfare bill, etc.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

or bush just keeps cramming the wrinkled up dollar bill of his dumbass legislation and bad judges into the now-pepsi vending machine of democracy over and over and over... until he gets that damn drink he wants.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Montana _just_ safe enough for a recount to either be impossible or fruitless.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

What the US needs is one of those plastic guards in the pickup slot to stop Republicans from just reaching up and grabbing all the Ike and Mikes on the bottom row.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

amen brother.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Montana _just_ safe enough for a recount to either be impossible or fruitless

with a difference of 1500 votes, um, yeah dude.


don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/116/292268372_8031f05c73.jpg?v=0

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL. (by the way, that Bush vs. Coke Machine picture: don't tell me he's in Crawford AGAIN... is he ever actually doing his job anymore these days?)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

THESE days???

The answer's no.

richardk (Richard K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Meantime, in the one local race that was up for grabs around here -- namely, a public transit/highway expansion measure that required a two-thirds countywide vote in favor -- Measure M's renewal passes! Just under the wire but it made it, thank goodness -- we needed the renewal badly as the population continues to increase, and I'll take a narrow victory over none.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

But but, that picture... what's up with Santorum's daughter's fingers? And his hair! Does he have the stars of the US flag as extensions?
Mom is kinda grinning at her democrat lover in the audience, methinks.

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

and the other kids look like they've gotten into the liquor cabinet again... this picture is amazing.

poor kids.

yetimike (McGonigal), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

waitwaitwait

Bill Bennett on CNN: "You will see a draft movement for Rick Santorum to run for president of the United States."

Is this why Bill left his seat early? To start campaigning?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

whay does GOP actually mean ? Ghastly 'orrible Party

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish someone had the guts to say "Wanna bet?" to Bennett re Santorum for Prez.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

OK I'm startnig to come around on this. I've been so stunted and scarred by previous "We woooonn--oh wait, we didn't!" scenarios that I was unwilling to feel celebratory. But I gotta admit right now I'm feeling pretty good.

richardk (Richard K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted for change (yay me!), but I'm going to remain bullish. Hearing this dude spastically bloviate on the way into work this morning wasn't exactly inspiring.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Re Murtha - cue Patrick Murphy! I was subjected to a freeper style takedown after criticizing dude for having no apparent politics. As the Democratic caucus grows more and more conservative, these "victories" seem increasingly Pyrrhic.

[I want to say "We're talking about Congress" in Allen Iverson's voice.]

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

this is pretty exciting!! but, in colorado the gay marriage ban has passed AND giving domestic partnership rights to same sex couples DIDN'T pass. bah. The fact that the stem cell thing failed in MO is pretty much a bummer, too!

gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

(I mean grows up to live in...OH NEVER MIND.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

oh bill bennet looked so pitifull on cnn - dude has seen better days.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

the maverick independent congressman who calls himself a "democratic socialist" into the U.S. Senate.

Yeah, and I call myself Tsar of All the Russias...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

yr right, bernie sanders is totally a republican in disguise.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

GOP = GOpwned.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

So once again:

If Conrad Burns wins Montana, and he's indicted via Abramoff, does Burns appoint a replacement himself, or is there a special election?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

so, Burns has won my county (Gallatin) by about 182 votes, from the looks of things.

also: lol @ "urban" Montana

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, can't believe Wisconsin passed the anti-gay marriage referendum AND the death penalty one. I hate us right now.
-- Jordan, November 7th, 2006.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

donut - don't know, in other states i've heard of the governor appointing a replacement and special elections, but never the resigner choosing.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to gbx.. well, here's to the Bozeman folks who helped keep the county purple.. now it's up to Cascade county i.e. Grand Falls.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

yeah, a socialist or a stealth Repub, that's Mainstream Dem logic in action. He's a hack.

Green senate candidate in NY got 1%. Really, "antiwar" people, nice statement in a meaningless election.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm actually surprised Gallatin ended up being so tight. I'm sure Bozeman voted overwhelmingly for Tester, while all the outlying communities went for Burns.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Tester's lead has widened slightly in the last hour, in the 1700s now.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

dr. morbius are you roger adultery?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

virginia recount would not come soon

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What does anyone know about Meagher County, MT? All Montana senate results are in apart from that county, which hasn't posted any numbers at all. According to the 2000 census, there are only 1435 voters in the county, but they did vote around 3-1 in favour of Bush in '00 and '04. Could narrow the gap but not overturn Tester's lead.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

no no mandee stem cell passed here, you missed the correction! min wage increase also passed here, overwhelmingly! I was working for the dems yesterday and the higher-ups were bitching about the stem-cell campaign being poorly run.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike, Prez voting isn't quite perfect indication of how they'll vote Senate-wise. Meagher voted 55% Democratic last time - albeit for an incumbent.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Illinois Green party gubernatorial candidate Rich Whitney got 11% of the vote, qualifying the Green party for easier ballot access and participation in the primaries. So that's a pretty cool.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

That NYT article also mentions that there can't be an MT recount unless the margin is less than 0.25%, currently standing around 0.5%.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Automatic recount in MT kicks in with a 0.25% margin - Tester currently has a 0.44% advantage. In VA, it's 0.5% and Webb has the edge by 0.35%.

(xpost)

Yes, it will take weeks before we know the final composition of the Senate, but this limbo will be a little more pleasant than 2000 FL and 2004 OH, won't it?

(Good point, Edward O; I was trying to find a quick guide to the blueness of the area)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Meagher also had less than 1000 votes cast in total then.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and if you're wondering, Dems did 10% better on Senate than they did on Prez in Meagher in 2000. Here's the psephological porn you seek:

http://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/

Meagher is quite red, but on 2000 (certainly not on 2002!) figures, not quite red enough to take the margin under .25%.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I did not read any of this thread, because I was working as an Ohio Democratic poll stander for 13 hours yesterday. My quads hurt.

I was shocked to discover that most of the stuff in my area went off without a hitch. Biggest problem I had personal knowledge of: adjoining precinct was (initially) forcing folks to cast provisional ballots in situations where they should be entitled to cast normal ballots (where the voter is registered at a previous address in the same county, or has a different address than the current registration address on a driver's license). That appeared to be cleaned up by mid-day after some squawking by nonpartisan election attorneys and a robocall to all of the head poll judges from the board of elections.

I am sad because my father lost his judicial race, but we are all thrilled because of the huge Ohio Dem Sweep. Tiberi's win (and Debbie Pryce's possible win) must be bitter candy for those fuckers over at the Ohio GOP!

J (Jay), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

well done j! (sry abt yr dad)

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Jennifer Gratz, the U-M applicant in 1995 who was wait-listed and later spurred the case heard by the Supreme Court, served as the executive director of the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative, sponsor of the proposal.

I knew someone who went to high school w/her and apparently she was a major druggie HOOR. But I'm sure she thinks that had nothing to do with any good university shooting her down, it was all evil affirmative action.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

That whole story makes me sick.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I am sad because my father lost his judicial race

Whoa! (Sorry to hear it.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, U of M AA issues have been around for at least a decade. This shit was bubbling even when I was a student there.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

She's from Lincoln Park, fer cryin' out loud -- she should have counted herself lucky to have got into WCCC.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

MT reporting from WaPo

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

New York, N.Y.: Dear Mr. Sabato-do you see the possibility of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama ticket in 2008? Thanks.

Larry Sabato: It's a possibility, though right now there are hundreds of possible combinations for both parties' presidential tickets. Hillary Clinton is likely to go into the '08 race with support from roughly 40 percent of likely primary and caucus voters. A candidate can win with 40 percent in a split field, but a candidate can also lose with 40 if a single opponent arises. This will be the question for the Dems in 2008. Barack Obama is certainly a rising star in the Democratic Party, although the Democrats chose another charismatic, one-term Senator in 2004 and it didn't do a whole lot to help their outcome.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

charismatic?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Among the dead, even Kerry is charismatic in comparison.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Zombies have more moxie, though.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think they're talking about Edwards?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

They are talking about Edwards (since it's re: VP candidates).

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah - he's more cute than charismatic tho

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

hint: Kerry was not a "one-term Senator"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

(sorry for putting this on the wrong thread)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure she thinks that had nothing to do with any good university shooting her down, it was all evil affirmative action

She didn't get shot down. She got wait-listed. And everyone else on the wait list got accepted but she withdrew from the list before that happened and started this hateful campaign. I guess she didn't want to get to U of M as much as she wanted to get into right-wing politics.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Rahm Emmanuel! He reminds me of a stoner friend i had in college.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The right wing is probably the only group silly enough to employ someone that sketchy. x-post.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Illinois races were a little disappointing, sans Melissa Bean's win. The big news here was Cook County President race, where Tony Peraica led his followers through downtown from their hotel to election headquarters to protest the lag in vote counting. He had a big angry speech that was pretty amusing. I voted for Stroger although I'm really not enamored of either candidate (Peraica's daughter is cute tho)

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess you can't accuse her of not having the courage of her convictions. That she should be treated like a fucking princess by people who don't even know her.

xpost

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean state offices were good I guess, glad Alexi Giannoulias won state treasurer even if he looks like he's my age. But Duckworth, Laesch and Dan Seals all lost, I was hoping for an upset in one of those three (particularly for Duckworth.)

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

MT margin over 3000 now, anyone care to call it now?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

consider it called

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay for Democracy (but come on, there weren't any serious races in ME - Dems don't even like their Gov much)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'know, thinking about something Morbz said upthread about the next two years being worse, I can specify that: i think they'll be filled with horror, as we start to find out exactly what the fuck has been going on for the last 3-5 years.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

it is tempting (and too hopeful by half) to think of this as Bush's 1973

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, far too hopeful. It was always going to be a tragic couple of years here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2006_11_pelosischumer.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Already linked, I think, but chat with Sabato this morning -- he won the prediction award, pretty much.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

more personal satisfaction:

Nick Lampson took Tom Delay's seat in Texas, Space took Bob Ney's seat in ohio, & Tim Mahoney took Foley's seat in Florida.

Unfortunately, Bilbray hangs on to Duke Cunningham's seat in California, beating Francine Busby by 15K.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

notice who was absent from Dem fete on the hill: Howard Dean (well planned all, that wasn't the moment to give him the mic, for sure)

Tom DeLay was on MSNBC this morning trying hard to spin this one - my fave moment was when he argued that he'd been indicted under laws that weren't actually in place

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone have the info on state legislatures nationwide?

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

have virginia and montana both been called then?

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Not yet, but MT seems to be in the bag for Tester.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

have you all seen this: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54918?utm_source=onion_rss_daily

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

mt's likely over as there has to be less than a .25% spread for a recount.

in virginia the threshold is 1% sothere will probably be a recount (which could be interesting as it increases the likelihood of gop dirty tricks being uncovered).

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Biting down hard at a certain DC address. Press conference in half an hour.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Rahm:

"Tonight the news has arrived from every corner of the country - the American people have sent a resounding and unmistakeable message of change and a new direction for America!

"We accept your votes not as a victory for our party but as an opportunity for our country. All Americans have recognised that what we are doing in Iraq isn't working and we need to change course."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I can specify that: i think they'll be filled with horror, as we start to find out exactly what the fuck has been going on for the last 3-5 years.

Let the betting pool for the total number of subpoenas begin

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

this is the first time i can recall looking forward to a bush press conference.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

it is tempting (and too hopeful by half) to think of this as Bush's 1973

The diff is Bush only has a year to go to true lame duckitude, Nixon had 3-1/2 years left when the shit really hit. The conv 'wisdom' will rule out beheading W.

Also, the Dems had Bella Abzug and Shirley Chisholm then, we get Pelosi.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, FBI's already launched the investigation of the VI robo-call shenanigans, among other things

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

this is the first time i can recall looking forward to a bush press conference.

hahaha OTM

Summary of the e-voting problems - gotta skip an ad to get to it, though

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Some brilliant stratagery (applies to that Rove thread too):

There's plenty of evidence to suggest that President Bush may have been the deciding factor that killed the GOP's momentum in some key Senate races over the last week. One Republican consultant is convinced that Bush's last-minute visit to Missouri on behalf of ousted GOP Sen. Jim Talent did the incumbent in. According to the network exit polls, Democrat Claire McCaskill crushed Talent among those late-breaking voters who decided in the final three days (a full 11 percent of the electorate). Bush also made a last-minute trip to Montana, where anecdotal evidence indicates the president's rally for Republican Conrad Burns stopped the incumbent's momentum in Billings.

It's hard not to look at the White House and wonder if it was flying blind. For 18 months, there was evidence that this was going to be a tough midterm thanks to basic history (six-year itch, after all) and the war in Iraq. So why didn't Karl Rove attempt to do what he did in '02 and '04 and dictate the terms of the debate? It was clear this was going to be a national election, yet the White House stuck to its "stay the course" guns for way too long. Northeastern Republicans were desperate for Bush to pivot on Iraq and he just wouldn't do it. When he finally did, it was too late.

The political arm of the Bush White House doesn't usually miss this badly, but it appears this election was misjudged from the beginning. Maybe they believed all the "genius" books that were being written about them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Official calls for Tester coming in. All down to Virginia now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

After voting in Crawford, Texas, the president returned to Washington Tuesday afternoon.

He was joined for a dinner of crow bisque and humble pie by political strategist Karl Rove, GOP chairman Ken Mehlman, White House chief of staff Josh Bolten, counselor to the president Dan Bartlett, former Commerce Secretary Don Evans and Brad Freeman, a California venture capitalist and top Bush fundraiser.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

not related to anything on this thread, but this Onion bit is my fave in a while

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush is making an announcement in 15 Minutes - excited are we?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, bets on the table: i say that no one is quitting, he's just going to "offer his hand in friendship" or whatever and invite all Dem leaders to the WH for a nice little chat.

what say you?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumsfeld's out!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

And not in a Karl Rove way.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

RUMSFELD STEPPING DOWN

xxpost

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

If he seriously announces that, he couldn't commit political suicide with what's left of his support more effectively. Therefore, I don't believe he will and neither should you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

DUDES HOW AWESOME IS DEVAL PATRICK!?!?!@


Patrick was born on Chicago's South Side in 1956, into an African-American family living on welfare and residing in a one-bedroom apartment. His father Pat Patrick, a member of jazz musician Sun Ra's band, left his wife Emily, son Deval, and daughter Rhonda in order to play music in New York City.[1] While in middle school, one of Deval's teachers referred Deval to A Better Chance, a national non-profit organization for identifying, recruiting and developing leaders among academically gifted students of color, which enabled him to attend Milton Academy in Milton, Massachusetts.[2][3]

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, his dad abandoned his family?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, I'm waiting for The Onion's Kelly political cartoon now.

"Welcome to hell, America"

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf?! that is so awesome

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Breaking News 12:53 PM ET:
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Intends to Resign, Republican Officials Told the A.P.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

So who's gonna take Rummy's place, eh?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/.element/img/1.5/ceiling/bnb/breaking_news.gif

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down, sources tell CNN.


A HAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA FUCK YOU HOPE YOU FUCKIN GET IN A CAR ACCIDENT ON THE WAY HOME

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

And only if Bush had done this a week ago, how different last night could have been.

"Rumsfield will stay until 2008"

I can't believe it. Seriously.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh this IS rich.

I'm watching the Washington Post stream.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll only rejoice when I'm certain he won't simply be replaced by another incompetent GOP jackal.

xpost: ah, yeah. There we go.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

so is bush going to accept his resignation this time? because didn't he try to resign twice already and bush refused it?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Trying to avoid the subpeona, I see.

The milblogs will be insane.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

2 minute countdown!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucking fucking fucking idiots.

Even two DAYS ago, had the annoucement of Rumsfield stepping down came through, last night could have been different.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Daddino, that includes bastard Joementum, right?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

is this the replacement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gates

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Did he just start his press conference with 'Why all the glum faces?'

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

HAR HAR DRAPES JOKE.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Lord, this is embarassing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Back to Pa. for a moment. Note that Rick's eldest son is clearly giving America the finger as his dad admits defeat. Obviously hates freedom.

http://cache.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2006/11/santorumconcedes.jpg

And now, back to Rummy.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

republican right wing media

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned why u so fast

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

lisnin on npr... W sez "Democrat" the way Dole said "Democrat wars" in '76

HAHA, that decorating joke laid a Charles Rocket-size egg

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man, am i happy i lost this bet. i never never NEVER thought these lunkheads would have been forced from any of their positions by anyone short of DC cops dragging them out of their offices.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Energy dependence! WTF!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Lord Custos is writing his speech!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

God! This is amazing! This is just AWFUL.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost WTF OTM!!!

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

let's protect the American people--from habeas corpus

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush is speaking awfully fast, isn't he?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't hear this thanks to work restrictions, so PLZ TO SUMMARIZE THKS.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Whose is the big giant head in the background?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The Iraq Study Group is getting major play.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike -- mostly just hoarse sounding waffle. He's never sounded more like a bad Clinton imitator.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"Timing is right for new leadership at the Pentagon!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

here we go, he's gone!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is Bob Gates?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Gates confirmed

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY PREZ RUNS DoD! Maybe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush is giving it large to: US Sheriff in Charge of war on terror

Bob Gates in charge of US Defense

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Dubya currently sounding really irritated

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

MEET THE NEW SPOOK...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gates

Has to get house and senate confirmation, no? This one or the one from jan 3rd?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude is on the study group.

Too much of this is saying "We've been talking about this for WEEKS."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

He is telling Bin Laden not to smurk

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Enemies, do not be joyful we will git you.

Iraqis, we will stand with you

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

The message to 'our enemies' is a treat. THANKS FOR THE BOILERPLATE.

"DO NOT BE FEARFUL, PEOPLE OF IRAQ!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

uh, why all the long faces...


TIMING!!!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

TERRORITSTS WE STILL HATE U

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Troops we support you

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What a shitbird. NOW he talks about "changing the tone" in DC – 6 years later

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

This is such a cave-in.

QUESTION TIME.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Red & Blue to Unite in cooperation

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush NOBODY BELIEVES YOU ANY MORE

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

What's up with Bush's cadence in this speech? It's just a series of statements delivered one after another the exact same way. He sounds like a disgruntled eighth grader in speech class.

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"AMERICA WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU without coffin photos"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh what a crazy two years this will be.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

BLACK AND WHITE UNITE

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

DO NOT BE JOYFUL

stet (stet), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

He sounds so defensive! This is ace.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(Is Bush back on the wacky dust?)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

NRO barely saying anything. I suspect they're drinking hard.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

AGGIES! AGGIES IN THE PENTAGON!

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob gates brings respect and managerial experience.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

This is immensely more satisfying than a Grammy thread, if not as funny.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

This guy fuckin' snorted a line before getting in front of the podium.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

!?!?!!?!

Okay, I'm slackjawed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i fired rumsfeld cause my dad n his friends are in charge now, so can i go?

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

he sounds totally defensive, his inflection is all exasperation. He's trying to concede defeat without conceding anything (a la troop drawdowns) and can't quite figure out how to do it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

The 'staying on' response -- W. T. F.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

(Is Bush back on the wacky dust?)

No, he'd be displaying some degree of confidence then.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

did Bush just basically say "I lied about Rum because..."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush is "assessing all the time... by myself" HAHAHAHAHA

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a lot of constant assessing and assessment going on

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

wait so he just admitted to lying abt rumsfeld last week? this is not the bush i know and love.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

My God...won't someone think of The Daily Show?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"I thought we were going to do fine yesterday... shows what I know"

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"I've never met Gates. He'll make a fine DoD."


FRESH EYES!!!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

He doesn't appear to have a clue what to say. It's really embarrassing to watch.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The Daily Show is fucked. From the reports you guys are giving, how can the Daily Show top this?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Number one on YouTube in a few minutes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

this is FUNNIER than the Daily Show!!!!!!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

squirm Dubya squirm

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

OH YOUTUBE I WILL LOVE U TONIGHT

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

haha xxpost

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Jon Stewart should just run this in its full length, smirk and sign off.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

SO fucked.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Has he just admitted the Republican party lost out because they're "unethical"?

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"ARE YOU FUCKIN' LISTENING TO ME, DAVID?"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

people voted Democrat because "they wanted their congressmen to be honest and ethical" xxpost

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

both americans want a victory

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"STAY THE COURSE!" Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"My attitude was stay the course. It means do the job – er, the tactics. Er, fuck it."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

YAY, WE ARE 'STAY THE COURSE AGAIN'

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"My point is that while we are adjusting we will continue to adjust... we are constantly adjusting." (nb: I do this with my balls!)

rems (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

james baker is abt to appear and drag bush out b the ear

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Has Dubya been watching The Office ?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Stay the course" doesn't mean "stay the course" silly, listen when I talk!

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

oh Jon will just rub his nipples on camera for like 10 minutes.

Stephen will probably be hiding under his desk.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the more and more people refer to it, its looking like this Baker-Hamilton Commission thing is going to be used as cover for troop withdrawals ("declare victory and run" scenario)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"Somehow it seeped into their conscience that my attitude was 'stay the course.'"

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody watching on CBS? was there just a weird audio glich, or did somebody bleep Bush?

rems (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

He's "constantly adjusting" his ah-dee-oll-oh-gee!


Wonkette:

"I also congratulated Congresswoman Pelosi.”

He said it again! No “Speaker Pelosi” from Bush.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

new meme for the next 2 years - cutting and running is staying the course.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounded like a major cock up there haha

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, his explanation about the Rumsfeld deal is deeply...strange. He's on a tear!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah there was a weird cross-signal or something

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

oh he's going all loopy with this when did he know rummy was going timeline

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

who is the HEED?

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

this reminds me of Reagan's first press conference after Iran-Contra.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

it sounds like he's improvosing the Rummy explanation

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

no, the bleep just came over the NPR feed. He must be busting out FCC violations again.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Third "congresswoman"

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"I knew you fellas would get me to negotiate with myself."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

WHAT a line.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

oh Alfred, you have a perverse memory.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm guessing this is not the president his supporters wanted to see this morning

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"One of these three characters asked me about minimum wage."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Commenters on wonkette.com say the bleep occurred on MSNBC and NPR, too!!!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ABANDON 'PRINCIPLES' NOW, you drydrunk!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

*blink blink* Jealous?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

He actually looks kind of.... scared.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lbeh.org/moh/whitehouse/whitehouse5.jpg
the HEED

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

all the needs to happen now, is Bush to peel back his skin to unveil lizard features ala V

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

haha what a question

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

pelosi be calling u names haha

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hey Pelosi thinks you're an asshole! Your response?"

"Uh, campaigns and governing are different things..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, my country, my country. Won't someone stop this mad parade?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet he's really wishin Daddy would bail him out right about now

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"hey, didn't you hear the unfortunate shit we said about her?"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

this is a close election

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm gonna start visiting her...with the idea of comin' together. Look, this is a close election."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"It was a thumping!"

WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

his face was phenomenal! he looked like he was passing a kidney stone.

rems (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, your first RODEO?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet he's praying god will bail him out right about now.
x-posts

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush is now officially funnier than Borat.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Not his first Rodeo with Pelosi, fnarr

also CNN website has finally called MT for the flathead.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"Not my first rodeo, just my first trampling underhoof"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Did he mention a rodeo???
x-posts oh he did say that.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

?!?!?!

"Don't f*ck with me, fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeo!"

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

nyt joek haha

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, NY Times joke!

"Thumping?"
"Thumping."
"Polite way..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

That response may actually be the first time I've ever seen the likeable Bush!

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The cumulative effect is a thumping

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm still going to try to speak plainly..."

AND FAIL.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"thumpin'!"

http://www.8thstreet.com/images/Emenence_CB15.jpg

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Mmm. Um, you know I really haven't...I'm gonna keep speakin' plainly."

oh PLEASE do.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

who's the new Judiciary head? they better be doing MAJOR reconsidering to impeach. He's encouraging it.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"I should not try punDITry."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah yes, the economy. Of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

In a surprise move, Bush reminds the press that he knows what happens after blowout midterm elections.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm not one to base my principles on, ya know, short-term popularity."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"I understand people are frustrated -- I am too!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

He understands the heart of the people.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a major funny asshole to the NY Times

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ya think I'm NUTS?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

TONY SNOW HAR HARS STAGE RIGHT

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

'DO you think I'm nuts?' 'Have I lost my sensibilities..., gregory?'

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Blue-skying now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Dudes, Tony Snow let the prez snort a line. I've never heard such a splenetically delivered speech.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, where's the big hook to yank him away?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

HERE WE GO WITH THE GIVE'EM HARRY AND IKE REFS.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Wants the dems to help institutionalise the ability for prezs in future to wage wars like this!!!

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahah "punditry"

motherfucker had to shift like two gears to pronouce it

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

this one is a classic for the ages

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

So is this even worse than Nixon's resignation speech?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Has Bush always spoken this way? His cadence is a bit odd. The last word of each sentence gets heavy emphasis and then a pause. "Donald Rumsfeld has done a great JOB.... He is a true PATRIOT..."

Is that coached?

Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Did Nixon stutter like he was on speed?

"LAME DUCK!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Why does he keep grunting a la Sling Blade?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, what, the Vietnam deal?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh okay, right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish i was clearing brush

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Has Bush always spoken this way?

when he's reading, yes.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok i just missed what the Indian and Vietnam "deals" are

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit are we on VIETNAM comparisons now?!?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Nixon could at least speak in sentences.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

He's trying to rearticulate...something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Grr, I wish I could watch this at work.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

"I see differences"

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

So is this even worse than Nixon's resignation speech?

Well, he can't say "They'll never write a book about my mother" cuz they already did

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, Lopez:

I think I get what he was saying, but I wouldn't think a reporter insane for interpreting some of the president's remarks at this presser as I-sometimes-lie-to-reporters-during-campaigns.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Reading contest with Mr. Rove?

WHOAAAAA!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

C-SPAN better have this for the next 18 hours

OOOH, ROVE BLEW IT joke

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

also CNN website has finally called MT for the flathead.

(Ironically, Montana has a Flathead County, which actually was one of the counties that strongly supported Burns.)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"I was working harder on the campaign than he was."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

the reading contest - they be fucking w/him now

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Biggest laugh of the day!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

this is crazy. I almost felt bad for him at the, "do you think I'm NUTS?" moment. such an unfamiliar sensation.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

now he's doing a weird conspiratorial eyebrow thing

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

No, wait, I meant Nixon's farewell speech, not his resignation speech. Lawd, he RAMBLED.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

actually yes I do think he's nuts. certifiably bonkers, with a massive oedipal/daddy complex.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

BUSH SEZ: I AM PERFECTLY CONTENT, PERFECTLY

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Is he going all Bud Dwyer now?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

No do-overs to do.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I can't wait for the official transcript...no, wait, they'll clean that up.

"You don't get do-overs!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS ISN'T MY FIRST RODEO!

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god, he keeps saying a version of "I don't know what you're talking about with that question." he's melting down.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"No question Iraq had an impact."

NO SHIT.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/rumsfeld_elk.jpg

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Winning on a write-in?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

what IS that weird grunt/guffaw/snicker/exhaust of breath thing?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, hold on, he's BLAMING THE BALLOT RULES?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

now he's missin his buddy the Hammer

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHAHAAH

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how resentful he is of the reporters for doing their job. "I haven't analyzed this election as much as YOU GUYS HAVE!"

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The press conference better have bulletproof vests... he is sounding scary fucked.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

They lost in texas as W had to teach texans how to write.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

OK WTF WAS THAT PENCIL THING ABOUT

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"Senator Clinton ran a VERY strong race."

Well, yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"As far as do-overs...talk to THEM."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, gridlock.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

?!?!!?!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

up-dup-up-hit microphone

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe he should "play Texas secretary of state" for the next 26 months.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

That shit about Sugarland was so condescending -- that's at least the second time in the last hour that he has accused the American people (who managed to wipe the drool off their hands to vote for him) of being STUPID.

Pot. Kettle. etc.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

bl ep uh nu hold hoo...

woah!!!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I really wish I took today off work so I could watch this and dance and get drunk.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

he keeps grabbing the mic stand and causing weird noises.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"occupying the office" is what he's done, and all occupations fail (Tim Robbins, WOTW)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

FreeRepublic will be SUCH fun...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"albeit a little early in the morning...(awkward pause)...my fault, since I initiated the call."

still calling her "Congresswoman" Pelosi, it almost seemed like he struggled manfully to call her "Speaker" and couldn't quite.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"Do it! That's how you do it!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

you're not a speaker until you've picked out yr drapes

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

or sworn in...

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Kim Fowley this outrageous?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

well, she isn't even really Speaker-elect yet

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"thumpin without a g for the transcript"

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Bullock? Inside joke?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"I read those same polls..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

The importance of taxes?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush should be having some art-rock band backing him up... that's the only way this makes sense.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

that "heh heh heh" to the Inside Joke -- HE'S DOING JON STEWART

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"I thought the American people wound understand the importance of taxes"

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Kim Fowley this outrageous?

Mash-up, my friend.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"that's 'thumpin' without a 'g', right? just so we get it right in the transcripts."

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

well, she isn't even really Speaker-elect yet

fair enough, but his huge pause before he came out with "congresswoman pelosi" was weird.

I can't even look directly at the TV right now.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry to rewind here, but I could swear he just said that the Jiha... er, Democrats were "also very concerned" about security.

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm really wishin I was at home with my sampler hooked up to the TV right now.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

he has accused the American people (who managed to wipe the drool off their hands to vote for him) of being STUPID.

no, TEXANS

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"Satisfied? Happy!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah. Newsweek's on it.

hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"HAPPY, pencil boy?"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

people who arent filthy rich are for some reason totally risk adverse when it comes to social security

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite line is still: Somehow it seeped into their conscience that my attitude was 'stay the course.'

Gee, how in good fuck could they have gotten that idea?

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Mash-up, my friend.

With Sondra Prill. SONDRA PRILL.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"many Democrats liked yr immigration reform more than GOP"

"MMMMMMMM"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe Rummy could be a guestworker

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's over,

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i appreciate yr interest hahahahahahah

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

GOOD NIGHT! I'll be here all bienniallike!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

god that was awesome

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh boy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

the press: are u joeking dude we wouldnt miss this for the world

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

INDUSTRY ASTOUNDED BY YOUTUBE CLIP OF POST-ELECTION BUSH PRESS CONFERENCE #1 MOVIE THIS WEEKEND.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i like to watch the press mill around and file out on cspan

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

suprisingly they're not all giving each other lolwtf was that looks

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

You can hear crickets over at NROWorld.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually hung up on a client so i could listen to the rest of that just now.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Baker-Hamiliton Commission = Tower Commission

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I NEED TRANSCRIPT STAT.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

you just got it through the power of ilx, what we wrote was what he said, verbatim.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

the peopple wanted ethical candidates, ha.

stet (stet), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Ben Domenech, how does it feel?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

were there any black republican candidates who won? 'cuz there was at least three big ass losses

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, i didn't dream this?

a.b. (alanbanana), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

NROWorld returns to regularly scheduled programming:

Hey, despair is a sin, so stop frowning! Elections come, elections go, but (yes, this is leading up to a sales pitch) great literature endures. Get your kids some great of NR’s wonderful new books this Christmas – you can order them safely and happily at the NRO Bookstore.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

but none of those 3 were even as nutjob wacky as Alan Keyes

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

is the press conference archived anywhere yet?

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

were there any black republican candidates who won? 'cuz there was at least three big ass losses

that link was nothing short of embarassing, the epitome of self-loathing.

don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

oh cspan.com

xpost me

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

So, How Was the Bush Era for You?
I can't help but feel we just saw the end of it.
I kept waiting for Grady Little to come out and pull him away from that podium, but he never came...

hahaha ben domenech otm

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

that link was nothing short of embarassing, the epitome of self-loathing

OTM, don.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post -- And he ain't alone.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Poppy Bush is shaking his head at Babs saying "I had some doozies, but shit."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Republicans keep their balls in their spines!!!

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder how much advice Grand Moff Baker gave the prez. Firing Rumsfeld is the kind of pragmatist decision only he could recommend.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

THANK U MR BAKER I NEVER REALIZED I COULD JUT FIRE THAT DOUCHE HES ALWAYS SO MEAN TO ME IN MEETINGS

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

omg another bush press conference @ 3 with rummy and the new guy!!!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/yay.gif

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man Rummy guaranteed to bring the ROFLZ

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp11-8-06c.jpg

"Leave me alone, you guys."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

in a surprising turn of events, rumsfeld was seen openly swigging from a large silver flask while whipping golf balls at the heads of reporters he didn't like

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man Rummy guaranteed to bring the ROFLZ

haha he'll be on some well where do you draw the line between getting fired and quitting you cant see you cant prove something doesn't exist when you look at it enough its not there you just see spinning pink dots on the horizon see i just blew yr minds right there u weak us press corps i crush u...

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

omg another bush press conference @ 3 with rummy and the new guy!!!


its like christmas 6 weeks early.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ha scarborogh n friends are trying to talk abt the press conference w/o cracking up

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"well where do you draw the line between getting fired and quitting you cant see you cant prove something doesn't exist when you look at it enough its not there you just see spinning pink dots on the horizon see i just blew yr minds right there u weak us press corps i crush u..."

hahahaha stop yr killin me!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

even buchanon is getting smirky

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/11/08/world/08rums337.jpg

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Fox news is not giving up the ROFLS

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Please to photoshop one-teared bald eagle into flaggy corner.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

another bush press conference @ 3

Now see, he's pushing it. Leave em wanting more.

"Rummy, STUFF HAPPENS"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/rumsfeld_elk.jpg

I'm just gonna post this every 50 messages.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush actually did pretty well, I think. Fairly articulate, though still flailing about trying to cover his ass and spin the losses at points. He was right to smack down the reporter who asked him to explain the comments made two days ago about Rumsfeld staying on about forty-five seconds after he'd already explained himself. His justifications (hadn't met w/ people, made final decision, not wanting to announce it right before election) were valid.

He may have some surprises up his sleeve for possibly Schwarzeneggerification of last two years of his presidency, but I guess we'll see.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim, this is neither an R.E.M. nor Beatles thread.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

oh the lolz.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

He has no surprises. He has no reason for living anymore - already "showed up his daddy" (two terms, captured Saddam = I R THE BESTEST take that Daddy who never believed in me), and there's no more elections for him to win. He's lost, adrift, a rudderless boat.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

pearls of wisdom from Tucker Carlson last night

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

He has no surprises. He has no reason for living anymore - already "showed up his daddy" (two terms, captured Saddam = I R THE BESTEST take that Daddy who never believed in me), and there's no more elections for him to win. He's lost, adrift, a rudderless boat.

All that's left is for him to personaly shoot clinton in the face.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

that Tucker Carlson transcript is amazing.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

bye bye, Hastert

Rep. John Boehner (news, bio, voting record) of Ohio, currently the majority leader, is expected to run for leader, and Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record) of Indiana announced during the day he also will seek the post. Joe Barton of Texas has signaled he may join the field.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It was a riot of exampleless assertions, vague generalizations, and opinions masquerading as some kind of poor man's version of a David Brooks cultural critique.

Poor man's David Brooks??? Thats liked watering down sugarless kool aid.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

All that's left is for him to personaly shoot clinton in the face.

ew

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

that Tucker Carlson transcript is amazing.

yeah i he seems to be trying to shift himself from party hack to some sort of meta-pundit to save his career. i saw him reporting from lebanese beach a couple months ago ponderously intoning abt how things can always get worse as if the is was some sort of deep lesson he had learned from iraq that he's going to share with us now.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

John McCain Statement coming up at 3pm eastern (now)

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/vote.world.reax.ap/index.html

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously... did the Right have it this good in 1994?

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://crymoregop.ytmnd.com/

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

One Frenchman, teacher Jean-Pierre Charpemtrat, 53, said it was about time U.S. voters figured out what much of the rest of the world already knew. "Americans are realizing that you can't found the politics of a country on patriotic passion and reflexes."

wait, a FRENCH guy said that???

and what (ooo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Fave freakout quote from Atlas Shrugs

But let's not kid ourselves. The American people have been clubbed to death like baby seals by a drive by, jihad loving media and it took its toll. Years and years of lies and propaganda had its effect.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

In Sri Lanka, some said they hoped the rebuke would force Bush to abandon a unilateral approach to global issues.

yeah, it's stuff like this that trips me out; the idea that other people are watching the live CNN Intl feeds and slavering over them minute-by-minute as much as we are here. (or even moreso, in some cases)

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

McCain, praising the change in DoD calling for bipartisanship yadayada

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, a FRENCH guy said that???

I think the self-unawareness is part of the charm

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

McCain kind of waffled about Iraq's effect on the elections: first he said he had no doubt it was the major cause of lost Republican seats, but then he pointed to corruption as being a bigger cause. like there's no chance it could be both?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

it depended on the race

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Linked from the Atlas Shrugs post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1734672/posts

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

From the comments on that freeper post:

Conservatism is dead until we destroy the MSM.

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

what is the MSM?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Main Stream Media. Whee.

Press conference transcript is up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumsfeld/Bush/Gates press conference about to begin.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

And in the Oval Office at that. How very presidential.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I love all the behind the scenes stage-managing BS here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

WHERE IS VIDEO OF BUSH-BOT

PLEASE, SOMEBODY

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Bush bot live here

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

earlier press conference here but the server seems to be overloaded, hey soon that will be your problem.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i need to see this

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

lol hay guys i just woke up... so who won? someone summarize everything for me

(9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hacks replaced hacks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Ade, you're in for a treat!

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/rumsfeld_elk.jpg

Never forget.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, i am! lmao rumsfeld.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/alanapost/udid.jpg

(9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link


Earlier "assessment" laffer:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/11/20061108-2.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, this is puerile but this dKos comment totally cracked me up

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

people on tv saying bush seized the newscycle by offing rumsfeld - but like really doesn't it just emphasize how much he got his ass handed.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN has called MT for Tester.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

during the bush press conference it did.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Who can pay attention when there's a Bush press conference going on?

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a dead news cycle anyway, Dems be sleeping.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

So can we just say the Dems control the Senate now and be done with it? Does anyone expect any surprises in VA?

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

IM IN UR CONGRESS

BEATEN UR PERMNENT MAJORTY

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

ALL YOUR SENATE ARE BELONG TO US

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

so glad this guy got his ass handed to him, esp. by a renewable energy dude.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/08/MNG9LM8JDV4.DTL

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

CNN called MT for Tester a couple of hours ago -- I think Wolf just didn't want to feel left out.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"In Montana, Democrat Jon Tester, a organic grain farmer who lost three fingers in a meat grinder, prevailed in a protracted contest with three-term Sen. Conrad Burns (news, bio, voting record), who was weakened politically by his ties to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff."

I misread this as "three-arm Sen. Conrad Burns."

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Cockburn & St Clair point out that a number of Rahm's Blue Dogs went down to defeat, and that "economic populism" was the core of the Dem pickups: "If the Democrats keep on pushing the old Clinton neoliberal recipe as now purveyed by Emanuel and the others, they will not recapture the White House in 2008, or even bolster their position in the Senate."

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11082006.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

So can we just say the Dems still control the White House and be done with it? Does anyone expect any surprises in FL?

-- Edward III (ehonaue...), November 8th, 2000 3:18 PM. (edward iii) (later) (link)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

In other news Henry Kissenger not dead, or at least reanimated for the purposes of telling Fox news that Rummy and Bob have different perzonalitiez.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, says here Conrad Burns ain't gunna concede, thus denying the world another amusing speech on the level of Keyes's concession.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

he's gonna talk w/wolf blitzer in a minute too (re kissenger)

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Senator-4-Life Conrad Burns!

NPR: "Matthew Dowd, what happened to Karl Rove's math?"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Conrad in some way related to Montgomery?

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to stop watching fox.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't normally like to pimp my place of business but:

http://www.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=12888

bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.citypaper.com/sb/106997/santorum.jpg

it's the doll that puts it over the top. it's like a fucking diane arbus photo.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

that kid's totally fake crying

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i should note the second photo is maryland's new governor martin "muscles" o'malley and his wacky, wacky son

bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

The mom's pressing a hot poker into her back.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"Mommy, I'm sorry, I prayed as hard as I could!"

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://blogs.citypages.com/jwalsh/images/diane_arbus_02%5B1%5D.jpg

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

So is it true that no repub kicked out any incumbent dem?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

isn't that kid too old to be carrying a doll around anyways?

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

So is it true that no repub kicked out any incumbent dem?

Looks like, but there were some close margins.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

A certain ILXor on the night:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/althouse/292233338/

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Bah, if the image linked. More here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

kissenger is incoherent - someone put him out of his misery

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

omg its the cnn bloggler party

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

oy

ken noizewater, field researcher: capitools division (Pareene), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

So how was last night, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

SO NOT GONNA HAPPEN

and what (ooo), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

L-R

"Um"
"yeh rick. sigh"
";_; do not WANT!!"
"omg so lame"
"REDFUCKINGRUM!"

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

How appropriate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

He was kinda cute!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

He had so much going for him then, didn't he?

Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe cheney's just had a crush on him all these years.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, so that's what Lileks' desktop wallpaper looks like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Ford looks like he wants to tie a turd around Cheney's neck.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.citypaper.com/sb/106997/santorum.jpg

kid on the right: WAHT

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I just checked my email and thought the wording of this was funny:

Gov. Howard Dean How did this happen? - The Democratic Party ... This year will be remembered as another moment when Americans … 4:37 pm

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

cheney is unfuckingrecognizable in those ford pix

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.citypaper.com/sb/106997/santorum.jpg

Remarkable how noone has commented on (presumably) the daughter, to the right of mom. She's not just looking sad, but more so looking very "Why is my bastard dad such a prick?! And why was I dragged on stage to back him up?!"
Now there's an image of the impact of shocking teen realisation for ya...

Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

it was only the crooked mouth that tipped me off

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the partialy obscured son was crying nicely too

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ford.utexas.edu/avproj/A7330-22.jpg

"I don't know, Dick. I think Lynne's stuff here is a bit too steamy for my tastes."

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys oversold the speech a little bit -- he's always been a subpar public speaker, though he was more inflection-happy than usual.

The answers to the press questions, though: mortifying. It was like watching a man shrink before your eyes. Embarrassed. Irritated. Bewildered. Annoyed! (Also hoarse.)

Eddie fucking Deezen would've been more authortative.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ford.utexas.edu/avproj/A7246-14A.jpg

holy crap, its young montgomery burns

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder which one of us will turn into the evil mastermind one day.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

My money's on Esteban. He's already got a Visa.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

video of the press conference?

richardk (Richard K), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

>video of the press conference?

1,000 internets to whomever provides a youtube link.

wostyntje (wostyntje), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

that picture from the Santorum press conference is not getting old. at all.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

GOP to call for Allen concession?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I really don't ever want to look at Santorum in any context, especially Aphex Santorum.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Fitzgerald concedes to Murphy in PA-8

still outstanding...

auto-recount in CT-2
absentee ballots in OH-2
counting continues in NM-1

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

but we lost PA-6, and while recount is possible in WY-AL, it doesn't look promising

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link

webb wins VA

gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 01:50 (seventeen years ago) link

So much for "this could carry on for two months."

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 01:52 (seventeen years ago) link

webb wins VA

fucking awesome. George Allen brings out the worst in me; I kind of want to see him cry.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 9 November 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

can somebody photoshop hulk hogan in that picture too plz?

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link

That picture of Santorum and family looks like a still shot out of Arrested Development. It cracked me up.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

That Santorum shot ought to win a Pulitzer.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: santorum v.
http://www.conservativethinking.com/files/reid-schumer-durbin-thumb.jpg

lest we forget

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, infact, lets look at it again:

http://www.citypaper.com/sb/106997/santorum.jpg

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link

it should really win a pulitzer.

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/106/292729689_889e920e13_o.png

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my, this has been a fine day indeed.

internet downpause (kenan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The wife, though: look at that little Cheneyesque snarl.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i couldn't think of anything for her to say :(

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

A "GRRRRRRR" would suffice.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/gradygillan/hogan.jpg

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not seeing any Webb updates anywhere.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

He won. The AP called it 40 mins ago.

internet downpause (kenan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend's take on Santorum's daughter: "She looks like a gay just married her puppy."

internet downpause (kenan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

which daughter?

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/gradygillan/ted.jpg

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link

which daughter?

ha. Either one, I guess.

internet downpause (kenan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 9 November 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Virginia was my hometown state! WOOHOO! That Republican guy he beat had been in the state's politics for what must have been at least 15 years. My dad worked in state government and used to complain about him back when I was too young to understand a lot of things.

SONIC YOUTH "YOUTH AGAINST FASCISM":

"Yeah the president sucks/
he's a war pig fuck/
this shit is OUT OF LUCK!
It's the song I hate/It's the song I hate"

A Chocolate Ball of Sweet Confectionary Fire (Bimble...), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man, the next two months gunna be fun

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had any energy, I'd make a gif of all their chins quivering, incl. the eagle and Pastor Ted.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

u forgot Wayne otherwise A++

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome, thanks for putting Hulk Hogan up there, Grady.

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If Morbius needs a reason to cry over Ford's loss: imagine how hard they could have fucked Lieberman if he wasn't required for the majority.

That would have been the third-most enjoyable thing about this election, after Rummy and Mr. Lube & Fecal Matter.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, so i was wrong and you were right re whether lieberman would stay a dem or jump to the GOP.

(i still don't like the dude, tho').

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

there's still time for him to head EPA!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

or take over for Chertoff

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

but I think he's a legislator and not going anywhere

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

and now that most of the people who elected him were independents and republicans he's going to feel a lot more beholden to them and less so to the Dems

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:47 (seventeen years ago) link

no surprises, then?

internet downpause (kenan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

man, i wish William Atherton got more screen work

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

This shit's getting a bit long, Let's talk about your shiny new congress over here:

What's a Democratic Congress going to do?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 08:06 (seventeen years ago) link

y'know, i'd heard he was running, but i didn't know he won. John Hall won a House seat from NY.

Oh yeah, and if you didn't know, here's what got him mad enough to run:

In the final days of the 2004 presidential campaign, Hall saw a clip from a Bush rally in Columbus, Ohio, aired on Lou Dobbs' CNN show and was appalled to hear "Still the One" playing in the background at the event. His permission to use it had not been sought or given. After wide press coverage via the AP, the Bush campaign promised to cease and desist. So John Hall can make one claim most already-elected Democrats cannot: He got President Bush to back down at least once.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/rumsfeld_miss.gif

yetimike (McGonigal), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/santorum5.jpg

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i still think wayne looks like peppers

i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 9 November 2006 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarasota County Supervisor of Elections Kathy Dent said she received reports from both Jennings and Buchanan supporters that the machine did not register their vote for the 13th race.

She encouraged voters who had problems to report them to her office, but didn’t know what they would be able to do.

“After the fact, there’s not a lot we can do about it.”

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, the Bush "assessment" conference really wasn't all that funny on TV. Musta been drunk w/ schadenfreude.

I also saw Rahm Emanuel (for the first time) on C-SPAN explaining specific districts' polling/ad team strategy for about 90 seconds, and my reaction (aside from boredom) was that gabbneb must be watching and climaxing.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

'DO you think I'm nuts?' 'Have I lost my sensibilities..., gregory?'

not funny?

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I made a download out of the CSpan stream because I hate streams: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VAX23MZ0

you can play it in Real Alternative

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

so G.Allen is pondering a non-challenge so, under the cover of 'magnanimity,' he can run again at the earliest convenience with minimal soreloserness?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Six years = earliest convenience?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Does Rahm Emmnuel's coronation mean that he (and not Karl Rove) is the new Mark Hanna?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

allen is pondering a non-challenge cause he knows there's no way he's making up 7k votes.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus, people are starting to bring up Allen telling Gore to get over it in 2000.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

morbius, can you try to sound more cynical and sour about everything, please? thanks. I mean, if you hate this shit so much and nobody's any damn good.. Well, life is short, so why don't you spend your life focusing on shit that doesn't make you feel bitter, bored, and cynical?

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^ should be in the FAQ

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry to shit on your Dems Are the Greatest cake, darla. You can get mouthbreathers like Chris Matthews telling you how great our system and the people in it are all over dumbass cable.

well, when is Warner's seat open? dude could retire. But Nixon waited 8 years after '60, six after losing the guv race. True, he never said Macaca.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I like how you completely avoided her point there, that was good.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

True, he never said Macaca.

He recorded himself in the Oval Office uttering far worse racial slurs, though.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Inyo/santorum.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Morbs, it's your right to live in a black and white world where you're always right because everything sucks, but I'm just sayin', it's your attitude that makes it so.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It's that there REALLY are about 5% of the legislators on the Hill who are worth more than a warm bucket of piss that makes it so.

But Mike, we only got the full brunt of Dick's slurring long after he coptered off into Elder Statesman rehab.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

(^ unexpurgated tapes release)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Cox & Forkum's commentary:

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/06.11.07.PollFaults-X.gif

I second the nomination of zombies.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/santorum6.jpg

what else?

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

it needs an owl

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm in ur hotel, conceding ur election

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

plz post pix for addition 2 lazy thx

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Morbius, you are being ridiculous. Not only do you know very little about what you're talking about, your answer is to unilaterally declare they're nearly all worthless 'cause you don't want to do the hard work of, you know, THINKING about things and why they are the way they are.

You are just like George W Bush.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

give the soundguy up in the balcony a friend

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

it needs an owl

and evil bert

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/santorum7.jpg

more

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Devendra's gonna come calling pretty soon.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

evil bert between Mommy Santorum and second girl sad child/Hulk Hogan

Guy In Accounting Who Just E-mails Around YouTube Links (Mr.Que), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

sry too late

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/santorum8.jpg

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://kalsey.com/rant/images/berttouristguy.jpg

oops. xpost you got it. 9/11 guy or no, too much, too early too soon?

Guy In Accounting Who Just E-mails Around YouTube Links (Mr.Que), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, but there is spirit on the GOP side! There is life!

http://www.redstate.com/files/fighton.jpg

FIGHT ON!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://cleverqueen.com/pix/santorum%20family.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

oh shit

Guy In Accounting Who Just E-mails Around YouTube Links (Mr.Que), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

but what of the man on dog?

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't wanna gis for man on dog, bro.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Put Chucky's face on the doll, plz.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/santoruma.jpg

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

so fucking awesome

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok that one is actually hysterical

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

It is pretty great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm game, dar1a, help me -- why are things the way they are, and how did you figure it out?

I figured it out by seeing the political landscape I knew changed forever in November '80. And it's not coming back.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

;_;

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/santorum9.jpg

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I thank Allah every day for internets.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

what was the landscape you "knew" Morbs? certainly it couldn't have been the one in which no even moderately progressive political figure won the Presidency without a) the benefit of a national tragedy, b) a huge personality cult at least somewhat divorced from ideology, or c) warmongering, and in which no progressive control of the Congress existed without the benefits of a lingering party identification with racists, right? the landscape "changed forever" when progressives got a hell of a lot of the things they wanted.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, to heck with that being here, new thread time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Meantime.

As the canvassing continues in Virginia, Sen. George Allen, R-Virginia, is sequestered in his home, "shell shocked," and going through "a nightmare," during this period of limbo, a senior Allen staffer tells CNN.

In a conference call with his senate staff and regional representatives Wednesday afternoon, the Virginia senator "didn't concede but he was clearly not emboldened to fight this," according to the staffer, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

jhoshea, stence:

thank you. the last two and a half hours of my life were some of the worst in recent memory.

but all is well now.

thank you.

researching ur life (grady), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

yw dude - hope whatever is bothering you is replaced with warm sunshine and a cool glass of water.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen's gunna do his concession speech later this afternoon, right?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

3 pm EST

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, he's done - 3pm. I almost feel sorry for the poor guy.
his constituents did him a favor, otherwise he'd have continued to go through life thinking it was a-ok and sort of funny to be a racist thug

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost feel sorry for the poor guy.

Lord, I don't. I hope he and Santorum show up in the Senate smashed out of their minds sometime over the next couple of months.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't work up too much sympathy for racist frat boys. Buh-bye, macaca.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

macaca's lost weekend: from senate shoe-in and presidential hopeful to unemployed in a season.

yay!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

and he managed to pick up an nickname that exemplified his failure!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

But now I can't stop saying macaca, it's worrisome.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen prob about to crawl into a bottle of Jack Daniels, true.

Allen, who once famously advocated beating Democrats by "knocking their soft teeth down their whining throats,"

Oh well. Toughski shitski, macaca..

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost - Yeah, I can't stop either. that is some serious karma right there - calling some dude a racist slur and guess who gets to wear it for the rest of his life, eh?

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Artur Davis may challenge Jeff Sessions in '08

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Big D

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Mr. DLC

The landscape I "knew" was one where the Ford Administration actually increased the non-Defense budget in real dollars, the government funded the arts at more than piddling levels, Republican presidents didn't see anything wrong with taxing the richest at a mega rate, etc.

(also I have no problem w/ your A & B conditions, I'll take what I can get)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, who is watching the pelosi/Bush press conference, those boom mikes are fighting with each other. It's like a herd of muppets at the bottom of the picture.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe time for a new thread but C4 news is saying the US is going to talk directly to Syria and Iran about sorting Iraq out.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

rundown of the still uncalled house races

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Allen concession on now.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

did W reveal his Pelosi nickname?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't catch it all.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

He's playing pass the football.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

What could it be - Pellet?

(xxpost)

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

pfff

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hot Lips

Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.viralmemes.com/images/midtermposter.jpg

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Li'l Bitchy

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

finally some sweet electronic voting snafu action!

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001972.php

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

florida will always be there for us

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

from another board:

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/820/santorumph7.jpg

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

you see other boards? *sniff*

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

From now on, you're only allowed to post here with a condom over your keyboard. If we can't trust you, then, well, you forced us into this.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my word at Lord of the Rings, can't you squeeze a Bush/Gollum in there somewhere?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

other board == fark!

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 9 November 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe time for a new thread but C4 news is saying the US is going to talk directly to Syria and Iran about sorting Iraq out.

No real shocker there - feeling I'm gettting is that Bush II has been under heavy pressure from Bush I and other Republican big wigs to get with the program and a) replace Rumsfeld, and b) implement the Baker commission's recommendations, e.g. start dealing direct with Iran & Syria. They've got to arrange major changes before the Democrats force it on them.

Next thing you know, Condi will be out and Baker will be warming the assdent in her office chair.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 9 November 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

eh Condi getting pushed out seems unlikely

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 November 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, she ain't going anywhere. she's one of dubya's few support posts left

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

not 2 mention they fuckin'.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

my guess is less of the fuckin and more of the b&d

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(gotta remember to ask my Condi-bodyguardin' in-law about that)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Just finished reading that article about Florida's voting problems. I don't understand how voting machines that don't leave a paper record behind were ever allowed in the first place.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

And everytime i read about a party sending "teams of lawyers" somewhere I picture a 1920's paddy wagon weaving it's way down a dirt road at high speeds with a crew of loose-cannon lawyers hanging off the sides waving pitch forks and brief cases.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

thank God

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

also the boonies

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'know, i do feel a little better this week. After years of fearing that we were fucked forever, it seems like we have at least a small way out of it.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally saw/heard this press conference and don't really see what everyone else did beyond the sorta awkward sourness (and Rove's Mr. Death act). He actually seemed more human/in-touch than he's been in years, though clearly still very much the same poliical/ideological animal.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 November 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

He actually seemed more human/in-touch than he's been in years

Oh, on this point I'll fully agree.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 November 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want some feel-good material, check out the briefing by Dean (who makes clear upfront that he's read and internalized The Way to Win) and a DNC pollster on this page

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 November 2006 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

oh garsh, maybe Bush is just a closet moderate... he triggers hate in the world only because he hates himself. poor guy.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 10 November 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

C'mon, somebody put crying Santorum daughter with crying emo kid on chair at concert.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 November 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want to know how we won, click on the Rahm presser on that page

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 November 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

we did well this cycle in no small part because we ran some very non-'elite' candidates.

I'd ask for your definition of "elite," but who am I kidding. (The non-elites obv include the legless female Iraq vet who IS STILL PROWAR, but I guess her non-elite potential constituents found the Republican winner not quite that fucking stupid, which is plausible.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

do you know how many people in Walter Reed are STILL PROWAR, morbs? why don't you go there and tell them how stupid they are.

Tammy Duckworth is more 'elite' than 'non-elite' because she's Thai (and has an Intl Affairs masters from GW and was working toward a doctorate), but so were her intended constituents because they are Chicago suburbanites. i'm talking about many of the Dem candidates in less metropolitan areas.

great moments in journalism...

Ohio Republican Rep. Jean Schmidt, who called Democratic Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record) a coward, is ahead of her challenger by 2,862 votes. Rep. Barbara Cubin (news, bio, voting record), who threatened to slap her wheelchair-bound Libertarian opponent after a debate, is ahead by fewer than a thousand votes in her Wyoming contest.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

did robocalls flip races?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 November 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

wrapping up loose ends: harold, call me

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 12 November 2006 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want to know how we won

Aside from a disastrous war, unpopular President, populace with little confidence in the economy, boy-touching Republicans, cover-ups for boy-touching Republicans and just a few ethics scandals?

John Oliver OTM

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 12 November 2006 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Without whose help, etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 November 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

He is a perennial loser in Montana politics, a kind of Harold Stassen of the interior West, a fringe candidate who sometimes has to sue to get invited to television debates. He is also a man who accidentally turned his skin blue by drinking a homemade antibiotic laced with silver.

This was the guy that Michael Medved was railing against in his rant I linked on the schadenfreude thread. For causing that alone, Stan Jones, I salute you -- blue skin and all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Rahm porn

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

gah, registration required, can you copy paste?

Ed (dali), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

it's really long. the intro...

He was hurtling down an asphalt road in upstate New York on the 47th trip of his ferocious campaign to win back the House. A lecture, even from political consultant James Carville, was the last thing he needed.

In just 12 days, his campaign would end in a historic victory--a triumph that almost no one believed possible when he took the job nearly two years ago--or in colossal failure.

And here were Carville and pollster Stan Greenberg telling him he had to make each of his handpicked candidates shift from attack mode and strike a conciliatory note in their final campaign ads.

"James. No James, YOU LISTEN," Emanuel barked into a cell phone, about to release a string of profane invectives more intense than usual. "Can you listen for one [expletive] minute?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

You tell em for me the next time you hit Walter Reed with all the Dems who are gonna sign on to McCain's troop-level boost.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Rahm Emanuel is awesome. a friend & I ran into him (almost literally. open bar, what can you do) as the d-trip results party was clearing out and I def got the "slightly insane" vibe

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 13 November 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

that rahm article was great!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 13 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah. absurd, but great. good lord! someone at my work used to be a political fundraiser & this person is like, hyper intense, I have no idea how they do it, I'd need a ****load of drugs and I'd be able to keep up for maybe a week, tops.

"Since my kids are gone, I can say it: They can go ---- themselves!"

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

this one's for gabbneb

don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

dude, where have the santorum.jpg pictures gone?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 25 January 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link


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