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1. if you mention your plans for after the war = you won't make it to last reel.

2. http://z.about.com/d/usmilitary/1/0/G/c/bb17.jpg

Dale Dye in some minor speaking role, usually as a commissioned officer.

3. stern shouty drill sergeant(pre-R. Lee Ermey) (even in a Woody Allen movie)
3a. stern shouty drill sergeant wanting to be R. Lee Ermey (post-R. Lee Ermey)

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

4. Well-meaning, but slow guy from the midwest who stumbles his way through basic training, can't really maintain gun, etc. who performs some insanely heroic (but fatal) act in the climatic battle.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

5. Adversaries who see each other across the battlefield/through cockpit window, salute each other, and then fight to the death.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

6. A battleship gets sunk

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

7. population variations demonstrated by hilariously over-emphasizing/stereotyping regional accent/lifestyle (e.g. rural hayseed is REALLY rural, NYC italian guys really italian, etc)

8. (not-so)surprising absense of non-white people

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Guest cameo appearance by old, overpaid and pompous British actor as WINSTON CHURCHILL!!!! (Makeup jobs of varying quality.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

10. Conflict between national ideology and the grunts was personified by the one guy that no one likes. (e.g. the Nazi propaganda officer in Das Boot, the Soviet ideology guy in Hunt For Red October)

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

11. noble german officers offsetting the evil nazis (NAGAE: not all germans are evil)

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

12. uber violent battle scene with jittery camera. a supporting character gets thrown about in an explosion and as the smoke clears, sees that his own leg/arm has been blown off. but he's surprisingly calm about it and just asks for a smoke.

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

13. "It's not so bad, kid, you'll be alright" said by grizzled sergeant to obviously fatally wounded youngster

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

14. one evil or incompetent commanding officer, one decent and skilled commanding officer

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

15. Someone nicknamed "Brooklyn."

― shookout (shookout), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

15. guy with compelling nickname takes off head-first into suicide mission, all his buddies yelling "NOOOO!" in slow-mo

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

17. It's really about saving the guy next to you.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

18. a macho soldier who's been jonesing for action finally kills someone in battle and breaks down because he can't handle it

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

19. Each regiment has a fat guy.

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

19. our protagonists take some R&R, hilarity involving prostitutes and fist-pumping late 60s rock anthem ensues

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

20. Liberal/Intellectual soldier tries desperately to hold on to ideals, fails to stop massive gang rape.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

21. Soldier in #20 wears glasses.

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

23. one soldier is a writer and his scribblings provide the voiceover

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

24. world war ii or vietnam

― a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

25. "Mail Call!"

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

25. poignant recollection of girl back home

26. sexy but no-nonsense nurse

― Mark Co (Markco), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

27. Ego-enabled upper-class soldier with blueblood background who wants to win medals.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

29. the first one to die is a minor character who had one line previous to his demise

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

30. Attractive partisan/resistance woman who conceals time bomb/sabotage device in the basket of her bicycle.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

31. Soldier finds out that hometown sweetheart has dumped him for some asshole who got out of the war by claiming he had a sore elbow or something.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

32. slo mo shot of someone falling to there knees and going "Noooooo!!!"

― Mark Co (Markco), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

32. young but cynical wisecracking medic/radio operator/rear gunner

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

33. That one guy who's deliberately trying to get a discharge

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

for #21, plz see THE BEAST

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

34. Submarine dives below advertised crush depth to avoid depth charges. Crew exchange nervous glances as sub makes creaking noises.

35. Crew of escaping submarine remains successfully quiet until someone drops a wrench/fork/whathaveyou.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

36. grunt passes out wounded thinking he's done for, wakes up in rescue chopper/hospital

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

37. tentative alliance between protagonist and enemy soldier attempting to brave the elements

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

37b. neither knows the other's language, so they communicate mostly in gestures

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

both ww2

37. air-fight movies: repeated shots of the three remaining ww2 aircraft available -- but flipped over to fool you

38. ground-fight movies: ahistoric use of cold-war era tanks

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

39a. Thoughtful commanding officer who ponders silently just before making speech prior to invasion/impending battle.

39b. Blood-and-guts commanding officer who if he isn't Patton, talks just like him.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

37c. bonding over music/food

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

37d. or alcohol

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

37e. or cigarettes

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

40. If there are scenes set in a war room where model representations of platoons/carrier groups/flight squadrons are being pushed around on top of a map, after the battle is over the commanding officer will pick up the last remaining model of the defeated enemy, glance at it thoughtfully, and then put it in his pocket.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

41. Big Maps of Enemy Territory!

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

42 moment when soldiers realise that enemy = snivelling young boys like them

43 comedy hijinks re VD education/inspection

― Mark Co (Markco), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

43b. DELOUSING!

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

44. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory: On the relaxed trip home after successfully carrying out their mission, our heroes discover that a stray gunshot perforated their fuel tank/radio antenna/tank track/etc.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

37c. bonding over music/food
-- roc u like a § (jo...), October 20th, 2006. (later)
37d. or alcohol
-- Orgy of Pragmatism (deanmartinlive...), October 20th, 2006. (later)
37e. or cigarettes
-- Orgy of Pragmatism (deanmartinlive...), October 20th, 2006. (later)

NoizeWar.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

45. The flag survives...even though half the platoon didn't.

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

40-something: (expansion of #11) nobility of certain enemy officers lamenting "this stupid/pointless war," usually has them doing the right thing and disobeying orders for a second/pretending not to see hurt heroes, etc. See Ron O'neal(R.I.P.) in Red Dawn.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

46. Creepy military intelligence/spy guy that no one likes who needs to be smuggled into/out of enemy territory. Grunts question worth of mission, which inevitably results in "this information could win the war for us" line.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

47. Eating rations out of a can; complaining.

48. Platoon sitting in a truck/boat/helicopter heading into battle. Everyone is silent.

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

48. Poignantly peaceful observation of holiday by both sides

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

51. (corollary to #46) intelligence guys always portrayed as sneaky, underhanded, rat-like, dishonorable types, as if fighting enemy in any way but more overt & macho is unmanly and invalid.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

49. Rogueish older soldier snatches photo out of babyfaced newcomer's hands - "Is that your sweetheart? Wow, what a looker - get a load of this, boys"

― vingt regards (vignt_regards), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Young gung-ho GI just out of basic training and wants to kill someone. Disapproving older GI who has seen a lot of death.

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

50. (my own xpost)

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

52. no mention ever of resistance forces on eastern front. Partisians can only be french/dutch.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

53. A gun jamming at an inopportune time.

― Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

54. (If Soviet-era film) "The glorious revolutionary forces will defeat the fascist pigs before Mother Russia is defeated! Come with me, comrades!" *entire Nazi army destroyed*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

55. Death-defying journalist gradually wins troops' grudging respect.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

48a. at night, the americans hear from across a snowy field "Weihnachten ist eine Zeit peace/It's der wirklich kalten Außenseite!" or something, and one of them asks, "what's that?" a grizzled sergeant says, "they're singing. it's christmas eve."

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

56. Kommissars never shown shooting any Red Army members trying to retreat.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

no mention ever of resistance forces on eastern front. Partisians can only be french/dutch.

Some exceptions to that... Cross Of Iron, Enemy At The Gates, Force 10 From Navarone, Where Eagles Dare

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

57. Surreal set piece possibly having to do with battleground's colonial past

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

58. Wounded soldier first wants to know if his junk is intact.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, that's true, but i still hold that the Eastern Front never gets anything approaching its due in western pop culture(incl. games)

but this is def. changing.

xpost

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

59. (If French) Saucy, earthy Parisian guzzles wine and talks about sex incessantly, to the despair of his aristocratic commander.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

60. (If British) Entire UK army divided between toffs who attended Eton and "cheer up it may never happen!" Cockneys. Occasional Scot given a speaking role for 'color.'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

61. hero at beginning of film always clear-eyed, fresh-faced. May have lied about age to enlist.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

62. basic training sequence/montage

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

61. Offbeat Scandinavian/Polish/Australian guy that no one takes seriously who turns out to be 100x as combat effective as the US/UK guys. Superior ability attributed to hunting bear in Siberian winter, chasing kangaroos in outback, etc.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

63. That one guy who it seems to everyone can't be killed.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

65. Fresh-faced privates depart for war just as grizzled, hollow-eyed veterans return. Each side looks into the eyes of the other.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

64. Soldier in 20/21 is Jewish, particularly in WWII western-front film

65. Earnest, sensitive soldier gets letter from girl back home, fun-loving nearby soldier buddies whoop it up / snatch pictures away / make jokes (even in future, per Verhoeven)

66. Obstacle course with prominent rope net

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

67. (Submarine specific) As duration of mission/deployment lengthens, the crew grow beards and stop wearing complete uniforms (with the exception of fastidious ideologue guy from #10 above)

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

67. Member of troop plays instrument (harmonica, space-violin if Verhoeven, etc.) to entertain/annoy/console others

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

69. (Further submarine specific) Commander insists "Take her down!" even though he is wounded and stranded on the outside of the boat, and thus meets his fate. Ronald Reagan then says something vaguely profound two minutes later.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

70. Bitter recognition that no one back home will ever understand what it was like.

71. USO show dissolves into rowdy chaos upon arrival of busty pin-up girl, who is soon escorted to safety.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

72. (WW2 specific) Post-combat soldiers take it easy, whoop it up and relax until they encounter evidence of atrocity: concentration camps, civilian massacre, pit full of bodies.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

73. in german pov films, all the german soldiers die (subtext: for the sins of the nazis)

― gear (gear), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

74. Drill seargent makes everyone due 900 push-ups in the pouring rain because one guy didn't make his bed properly.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

75. Intelligence agent/escaped POW speaks enemy language fluently but is caught when someone speaks to him in English and he replies in English.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

76. Vets meet years later wearing bad 70's fashions, regardless of decade.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

77. german officer always of regal, aristocratic background(even if evil)

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

(yikes, #74 - "due" should be "do," obv.

― Chris L (Chris L), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

78. (WWI era) Someone states that disease/trench conditions will kill them off faster than the enemy will.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 20 October 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

79. morphine

― jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 21 October 2006 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm disappointed that this thread isn't as funny as the cop show one.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 21 October 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

War is hell

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 21 October 2006 07:39 (seventeen years ago) link

80. Cock bitten off by female prisoner of war.

― James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Saturday, 21 October 2006 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link

81. Really shitty weather

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Saturday, 21 October 2006 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

82. "YOURE NOT DYING I WILL NOT LET YOU DIE!!!"
"let em go sam"
blood all coughing out of mouth

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 21 October 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

83. fiesty resistance fighter chick, feigns initial disinterest in leading man, but beneath that frosty exterior beats the heart of a woman.

in final battle, dies in his arms in extended croak scene.

― beeble (beeble), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

84. chick must die with eyes open, trickle of blood from mouth to denote death. hero gently closes her eyes, relunctantly lets lifeless body go. eyes narrow, 'damn this beastly war', picks up sten gun, resolved stiffened to defeat The Hun.

― beeble (beeble), Saturday, 21 October 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

85. Wounded soldier taken down by friendly fire --- usually by best friend -- to prevent him from falling into enemy hands.

"No telling what they would have done..."

― If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 21 October 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

86. At least one guy is reunited with his girl at the end, so they can get married.

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Saturday, 21 October 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

87. Another guy will fall in love with a native and marry her or at least get engaged.

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Saturday, 21 October 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

88. At some point, you will have to get rid of a grenade that's missing its pin.

― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Saturday, 21 October 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

89. guys mentally rehearse love letters to their wives while getting blowjobs from USO hookers

― martha gives letterman the 'lick' (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 21 October 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

[Submarine Specific] Part of sub is compromised and is taking on water; decision must be made to close the hatch, trapping several buddies inside and ensuring their deaths; someone yelling "CLOSE IT OR WE'RE DEAD TOO!"; music swells profoundly as we see the water rising against the window.

― franny (frannyglass), Saturday, 21 October 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

91. A dressdown that begins with "Now see here mister..."

― jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 22 October 2006 04:04 (seventeen years ago) link

92. Scene of long-haired dudes driving around in Mustang listening to "Low Rider."

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 22 October 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

93. Despite being otherwise shitty and muddy, every soldier has perfect white teeth, even if the movie takes place years before proper dental care became common, and the soldiers probably haven't seen a toothbrush for two years (see Private Ryan, for example).

94. [Especially in WWII films:] No gay relationships at all, even though in real life they were common as hell.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 22 October 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

95. (North Africa/Arabia/desert) Patrol squad encounters sand blown wreckage of tank/truck/jeep with dead soldiers scattered about. Vultures feed on bodies. If the bodies are friendlies one of the squad will shoot a gun in the air, holler, and shoo the vultures away.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

96. guys take an oddly timed break in action to expound upon either:

1) virtures of buying war bonds* where you work or bank
2) how much/why they love their particular cigarette brand so

(*originally typed "war bongs")

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 23 October 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

An NRO poll on best war film ever. Nothing non-English, 13,000+ votes cast:

1. Patton -- 28%
2. Saving Private Ryan -- 20%
3. Bridge on the River Kwai -- 11%
4. Gettysburg -- 6%
5. The Great Escape -- 5%
5. All Quiet on the Western Front -- 5%
7. Apocalypse Now -- 4%
8. The Dirty Dozen -- 3%
9. Paths of Glory -- 2%
10. Hurt Locker 1%

(Other -- 17%)

I voted Paths of Glory, would have gone with Casualties of War if it'd been there.

― clemenza, Saturday, 12 November 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

No Come and See, no credibility.

― der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

If it's a sargeant talking to his squad, then it's "smoke 'em, if you got 'em". If it's a lieutnant speaking, then it's the more genteel, "gentlemen, the smoking lamp is lit".

― Aimless, Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

I assume the 5% voting for a pacifist work like Erich Maria Remarque's (via Lewis Milestone) are lib lurkers on the NatReviewOnline.

(or we can just accept Anthony Swofford's diagnosis that there is no such thing as an antiwar film)

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

I was trying to identify a pro-war/anti-war split--pretty stark at #1 and #9/10--but found it somewhat muddled between.

― clemenza, Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

I also suspect Nixon is casting votes from beyond the grave.

― clemenza, Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070219184803/wikiality/images/c/c3/Futurama-203-nixon.jpg

― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Not familiar with the Swofford analysis, but I think you'd have a hard time interpreting Paths of Glory as anything but unequivocally anti-war. I'm sure there are others (Coming Home?), and when you open it up to documentaries, there are lots. Probably most American anti-war films deal with Vietnam, though, which blurs the line--were they anti-war, or just anti-that-war?

― clemenza, Saturday, 12 November 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Gettysburg?

― encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 November 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

basically Swofford's argument is that any film showing battle gives young men a hard-on for combat

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 November 2011 07:41 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

97. Variant of #13: Seasoned vet has fatal injury. Other seasoned vet doesn't bullshit him: they share a smoke and doomed man offers dispassionate commentary, maybe even a grim (but not maudlin) joke.

97a. Or: Second season vet makes half-hearted attempt to cushion the blow. Doomed man waves it off, knowing better.

98. Living man places lit cigarette in mouth of dying man; he gets one really satisfying puff, but is dead before he can finish the whole thing.

― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:04 (seven years ago) link

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