Colbert and the WH Correspondents Dinner

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ohmigod what were they thinking. its like he's taking a tommygun to the room

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

is anybody else watching this???

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Dubyas tlooks like he wants to take a nailgun to him

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:53 (twenty years ago)

his lips are pursed very tightly.

oh! there was a chuckle.

right now they've split the screen between Dubya and Colbert's "audition videotape" for the WH Press Sec. job

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:55 (twenty years ago)

video starred Helen Thomas!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)

that was the funniest 30 minutes of a guy bombing I've seen in awhile.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:00 (twenty years ago)

wait so did he kill
or did he bomb? me confused
(and did not see it)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Hooray for the rebroadcast!

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

Well, I fuckin' loved it!

Mama Roux (Mama Roux), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:19 (twenty years ago)

That was one tough crowd.

And the W impersonator was one of the creepier humans I've seen in awhile.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:41 (twenty years ago)

he killed AND bombed - I mean, his routine was awesome and hilarious, but it was clearly too much for the audience.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)

how can i see this? what time zone are you guys in? is it on cable or something?

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

On CSPAN right now, for those of us on the west coast.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:04 (twenty years ago)

Someone get this up on YouTube, please!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:10 (twenty years ago)

East coasters - Colbert is being introduced on CSPAN right now.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:23 (twenty years ago)

streamling live at http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

hopefully available tomorroww on the site, also

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:36 (twenty years ago)

the audience response is so awkward!

flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:40 (twenty years ago)

that clip wasn't very funny

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Colbert didn't seem to go down too well. They looked so bored. I thought it was pretty funny but hardly

My girlfriend's roommate was trying to sneak in to this with her bloke but i'm not sure it would have been worth the effort.

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Stephen Colbert must carry his balls in a backpack.

Someone who's familiar w/ the institutional history of the event, has anyone been that consistently derisive to a President 10 feet away before? I don't mean, "heh heh little chuckle at your expense."

"Deckchairs on the Hindenberg" alone was worth staying up for.

Or, along the lines of "don't worry, sir, the metaphorical glass of your support is still 1/3 full. I wouldn't drink though, it's usually backwash."

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:05 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe he said all that, standing like six feet away from Bush. My entire family watched this and howled with laughter. There were a few dud jokes, and the clip was overlong, but the majority of it was terrific. The audience couldn't have been more dead, though. It was like a repeat of Jon Stewart at the Oscars - mostly funny material, but an audience that's totally not ready to laugh at its own flaws laid bare.

reddening (reddening), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:22 (twenty years ago)

that was fucking awesome

i don't think the audience was dead, or un-amused, just silently thinking 'holy shit'.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:28 (twenty years ago)

the ending was just so horribly ironic, though - Bush seemed to genuinely congratulate him, as if to say, you just did pretty well at what i've been working on my whole life

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if bush has any idea that colbert is satire.

flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Bill Kristol might not have had enough time to dig it, but I'm pretty sure after a solid half hour of nut twisting, W knew it was satire--and more.

I don't think "JUS' FUNNIN'!" would patch things up.

Scalia was in good humor.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:42 (twenty years ago)

That was fast.

As Colbert walked from the podium, when it was over, the president and First Lady gave him quick nods, unsmiling, and left immediately.

Asked by E&P after it was over if he thought he'd been too harsh, Colbert said, "Not at all." Was he trying to make a point politically or just get laughs? "Just for laughs," he said.

Among attendees at the black tie event: Morgan Fairchild, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, Justice Antonin Scalia, George Clooney, and Jeff "Skunk" Baxter of the Doobie Brothers--in a kilt.

Which Doobie you be?

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 30 April 2006 04:52 (twenty years ago)

Someone who's familiar w/ the institutional history of the event, has anyone been that consistently derisive to a President 10 feet away before? I don't mean, "heh heh little chuckle at your expense."

Flashback to 1996 and Don Imus.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:22 (twenty years ago)

"What are you [reporters] thinking, reporting on things like NSA wiretaps and secret prisons in eastern Europe? Those things are secret for a very important reason -- they're super-depressing!"

Even MENTIONING secret CIA prisons in that situation: wow.

xero (xero), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:30 (twenty years ago)

you can download it from www.crooksandliars.com

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:30 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe they laughed more at Bush than at Colbert. No wonder the press is in the state it's in.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 30 April 2006 09:01 (twenty years ago)

I turned it on last night just as it was finishing, but a V.O. said they'd be rerunning it today. I missed the exact time, but somewhere around noon eastern.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 April 2006 12:23 (twenty years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_g8vCqvIuec

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8FBDPCyiFqY

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 30 April 2006 12:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that was that bad at all. There were pauses, but it's a public speech, not a teleprompter monologue. Public speaking has pauses, from my experience.

Anway, thank goodness for the court jesters.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 30 April 2006 13:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mininova.org/tor/296239

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 April 2006 13:11 (twenty years ago)

steven colbert is a goddamn genius. worst audience ever.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

WOW! this guy is a hero...

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:59 (twenty years ago)

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060430/capt.dchg11204300355.bush_correspondents_dchg112.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:20 (twenty years ago)

They're into it for the first eight minutes and then just stop laughing when he gets to the photo-op line. Love the reactions from Bush.

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Erm but are standing ovations the done thing at this dinner?

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)

best: the McCain line (that was cold)

worst: the Helen Thomas/Press Sec. audition (which was closest in feel to his actual show, which isn't all that funny)

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

worst: the Helen Thomas/Press Sec. audition (which was closest in feel to his actual show, which isn't all that funny)

Usually repititve jokes that go on and on bore me to tears, but the bit with Colbert's car-keys had me cracking up the entire time.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:21 (twenty years ago)

The rerun is on now, just got to Bush and his double.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

maybe he's ill-served by sitting in a chair most of the time? the guy's a great physical comedian. i lol'd at the car keys, but the single best moment was "Joe Wilson is here... and his wife, Valerie Plame, *beat*, *what-have-I-done-hand-over-mouth*"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

just watched it on CSPAN Weekend.
Mostly boring. I don't see what the big deal is. I can understand sorta why the dude I met last night @ the Big Hunt still in his tuxedo said it seemed to run long.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I much prefer the show. He's a lot funnier when he doesn't have to try & aim at mostly humorless imps who all dwell inside an airtight dome. Funniest part of the routine was describing Washington DC as a Mallomar, and that still wasn't lolsworthy. Audition videotape left me cold.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

the mccain thing was pretty sweet. he sold the line well.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Colbert flipping off Scalia on live tv = fairly funny.
Colbert trying to keep composure after flipping off a Supreme Court justice on live tv = very funny.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I was pretty impressed. Whether it was just for laughs or not, he more or less told the whole room to fuck off (and literally, in the case of Scalia). And to call the president's 32% supporters "backwash" to his face? Ballsy. This had the look of dead-serious satire to me, rather than comedy.

not sure about pickles (Jacqui Pickles), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

good material, good delivery, bad audience. the vid ran way too long. the material would've gone over way better had it been delivered by a washington type rather than a new york comedian. harder to maintain the "all in good fun we'll be playing golf next week" tone which is necessary in these dinner things when you're an outsider.

keep in mind also that these people think andy borowitz is the height of comedy.

T0m Lehr3r (Pareene), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

He's funniest in short bursts - the character just isn't that funny for 30 minutes (night after night, it's like, yeah we get the point, Bill O'Reilly truthiness haha go away now), but was deadly for about nine here.

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Laurence Fishburne looked like he was enjoying himself.

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 30 April 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

it's a different kind of funny than we normally see from him. his show is so rigidly timed and edited, and speech humor tends to have a different, more laconic pace. He was really able to use his body language here (rather than squeezing himself into those tight colbert report medium shots), which you can see from those still photos.

flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Full Transcript - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=2819

Full Video (DivX / 640x480 / 26:35 / 200mb) - http://www.etherkillers.com/files/colbert.speech.wh.correspondents.dinner.avi

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)

You muricans refuse to take control of your country,
but at least you got some good comedy fodder!

peepee (peepee), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I was pretty impressed. Whether it was just for laughs or not, he more or less told the whole room to fuck off (and literally, in the case of Scalia). And to call the president's 32% supporters "backwash" to his face? Ballsy. This had the look of dead-serious satire to me, rather than comedy.

exactly. being funny wasn't the point.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

this was gangsta

-+++-++-, Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

A Colbert fan says the routine was not brave, nor dangerous, but more like the usual exploitative career turn.

"In the comments, one will find praise for Colbert for speaking truth to power, or whatever cliche one wished to use. However, Colbert (who I find very, very funny) said a few funny things, but seems to have forgotten that it's a failing prospect to attempt to direct satire at those who are beyond it."

Similarly, it has become tiresome to hear talk of courage in this case, as if Colbert is in some fear for his life, but chose to stand against the fascist state and mock the president and media. Rubbish. The easiest place in the world to be snarky is Washington D.C. The Capitol virtually runs on snark. I pointed out that courage would be exemplified by an Iraqi mocking Saddam (when still in office) where speaking against the government carried very real danger.

You mean like having your wife's career ended?

The other point that begs to be made is that the shrieking about police states, etc. demonstrates just how humorless much of Colbert's audience is.

Because a person is only brave when he may be killed or tortured for what he does.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 30 April 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)

i believe its yogurt, but i refuse to believe its not butter

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 30 April 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Eh, if he had been any less nasty he would have been skewered for pulling his punches.

JW (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)

It's a good sign this country's headed for the fucking shitbucket that we now have to rely on critiquing the quality of our political reporter's annual pay-to-play dinner theater because critiquing the actual journalists themselves, much less the subject of their reports, has become so obviously a total waste of time for all but the most marginal headcases of the voting populace.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

eh, who has time to read?

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

besides, that's what blogs are for.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

I mean here is a man whose business is comedy and satire, and he's been asked to perform something amusing for the attendees at a fancy-dress dinner party for mostly power-queer suckups, and on the one hand you have the disenfranchised progressive/oppositional voters who are like YOU GO COMEDIAN MAN!!! YOU TELL THOSE JOKES!!! and on the other hand you have the people who control the government complaining because of all things, the guy would dare to make fun of a president whose administration is under investigation for war crimes and treason and whose remaining supporters number LESS THAN ONE THIRD OF THE COUNTRY, as if he was supposed to come down there and pick on Katrina victims or something.

It's fucking pathetic and depressing to me, sorry.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't think it's necessary to see this as some radical stand against the oncoming forces of tyranny to find half of it humorous.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 1 May 2006 00:56 (twenty years ago)

if they wanted someone non-threatening it's their mistake for inviting colbert, seeing how pwning the bush administration is what he does for a living.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:02 (twenty years ago)

Others on the guest list included rapper-actor Ludacris; James Denton, the hunky plumber on ABC's "Desperate Housewives"; "Dancing With the Stars" winner Drew Lachey; New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin; tennis player Anna Kournikova; and Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

how come nobody's mentioned the hunky plumber yet?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:05 (twenty years ago)

ts: "hunky plumber" vs "funky drummer"

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:09 (twenty years ago)

1989
A NUMBER
ANOTHER SUMMER
GET DOWN TO THE SOUND OF THE HUNKY PLUMBER

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:21 (twenty years ago)

SC was on 60 Minutes tonight

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 1 May 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

I appreciate that most people on this thread may be just trying to discuss the quality of the comedy on offer, but it seems a little difficult to differentiate between "nice roffles there steve" vs. "wow did he totally just zing the fuck out of those motherfucking oil jesus corruptionistas or what"

It's good to know the only remaining mouthpieces the entire left side of america knows how to get behind are a pair of comedians who do talk shows on cable. That's all I'm saying.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Also you gotta love how the rest of the MSM keep calling DS + CR "fake news" like they're The Onion of television or something. They just tell better jokes than Keith Olbermann does, or am I missing something?

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 03:12 (twenty years ago)

http://thankyoustephencolbert.org/

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 1 May 2006 03:37 (twenty years ago)

i get what you're saying tom, but i'm not sure anyone's making the claims you're disputing. is anyone really saying this is going to save america or anything? it mostly seems like a lot of people happy to have someone do a little venting-by-proxy for them. which is fine, isn't it? if you're going to vent by proxy, colbert's a pretty good proxy.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 May 2006 03:40 (twenty years ago)

"It's like boxing a glacier. Enjoy that metaphor, by the way, because your grandchildren will have no idea what a glacier is."

ROFL

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 1 May 2006 04:27 (twenty years ago)

venting is pretty much all we've got anymore.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 1 May 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

"It's good to know the only remaining mouthpieces the entire left side of america knows how to get behind are a pair of comedians who do talk shows on cable. That's all I'm saying."

I wish there were better opposition to the gop AND the dems. hopefully, the continued toothlessness of the dems will lead to some sort of alternative for people. and hopefully, it will be one that doesn't involve more paramilitary militias. but speaking of paramilitary militias, do you ever read the nation? colbert is john friggin' brown compared to that crowd. he has the better forum though and he makes the most of it. a t.v. show will always trump a shitty looking zine. lou dobbs has probably done more damage to bush (and his poll ratings) than any democratic senator. so, on the one hand, don't underestimate the popular power of a comedian (or anyone) on t.v. and on the other hand, yeah, this country is in sad shape.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 1 May 2006 11:17 (twenty years ago)

After working the morning news, my hunch is that Bush & Co. knew exactly what sort of routine Colbert would give, and were OK with him giving it, secure in the knowledge that it probably wouldn't be seen much outside of the internet and that the general media would studiously ignore Colbert's excoriation in favor of hee-hawing over the president's "good sense of humor" in sharing stage time with that living, Rich Little-esque waxwork. Between that and the clips of the New Orleans jazz festival showcasing, um, Bruce Springsteen, I was having a real Seymour-in-Ghost World morning.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 1 May 2006 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Was it live on C-SPAN? I tried to catch it and missed. (and I can't see no streamin)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:33 (twenty years ago)

it was live

sunny successor (katharine), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Jonah Goldberg, on NR's The Corner:

For the record, I am a huge fan of the Colbert Report. I thought it got off to a shaky start, but it has since hit its stride. And I think Colbert is brilliant.

I also think he stunk up the place last night. Save for a few riffs, he was just off. And he certainly came in a distant second to Bush's act. The idea that lefty bloggers are raving about Colbert's performance says far more about how politics have poisoned their taste, I think. After all, does anyone really believe that the press corps in attendance is ill-disposed to Bush-bashing humor? Seriously?

The audience didn't laugh — as anyone could tell from watching C-SPAN —because Colbert clunked. Period.

Moreover, it is enduringly fascinating how deeply invested many liberals are in comedians (and to a lesser extent, movie stars). There's of course Al Franken and Jeneane Garofalo (a recovering somewhat funny person), but even Jon Stewart is increasingly becoming a Big Thinker according to some liberals (at least from conversations I've had with them and bits and pieces on the web). I'm a big fan of Stewart's, too — even though I think he's become a bit too partisan of late. But, it would be interesting to hear a serious liberal explore the reason for why this is so. I think it's an interesting phenomena. What does it say about the "real" spokespeople of the left — journalists, politicians, activists et al. — that the most appealing figures are ones who get to hide behind clown make-up whenever the kitchen gets too hot? I have my own theories, but an explanation from the left would be more interesting.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Great, I'm turning into Jonah Goldberg and I'm not even 30 yet.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:41 (twenty years ago)

How about bcz Dem leaders are more interested in not offending any but the most rabid GOP acolytes so they can remain "broad-based" in their appeal. That leaves jesters (and Sharpton) to speak plainly.

Lenny Bruce woulda left in cuffs.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I need to watch it again, but I remember a decent amount of laughter. Little audible laughter /= bad performance.

jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:46 (twenty years ago)

I'd feel bad if I thought Stephen Colbert should be president, but I'm not apologetic for finding him to be a funny guy, and getting some joy out of watching Bush sit through his shit.

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Granted, Lenny Bruce would've read from the 9-11 Commission Report. While smoking.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:47 (twenty years ago)

clips of the New Orleans jazz festival showcasing, um, Bruce Springsteen

so you're really familiar with jazzfest then

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, what was wrong with the media back in Lenny Bruce's day? and Richard Pryor's?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Reading reams would be Late Lenny. Prime Lenny would've done a half-hour each on Laura's prescriptions and who Cheney should go hunting with next.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)

i admit to a sudden thought that this is not so different to 400 years ago, when the king's court tolerated the often ruthless barbs of a professional "fool." but what elevated colbert's performance to great art, and deserving of comparison with the very best fools' performances in history, is that he left the throne alone, more or less, and instead went after the court scribes - something goldberg appears to have totally missed - which has lots of interesting effects, the most interesting to me being that it kind of undercuts bush and in fact all politicians by suggesting the press is the institution with the real power - what its bosses and minions attack, support or go after will shape public opinion; presidents can be assumed to simply behave as venally as the press will allow

xpost is colbert even a standup comedian?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:58 (twenty years ago)

After all, does anyone really believe that the press corps in attendance is ill-disposed to Bush-bashing humor? Seriously?

This is the part that perplexed me about the early stage of this thread, where a couple ppl are like, "Oh just like at the Oscars where they refused to laugh at themselves, they are against this humor" etc--he didn't really seem to be cracking jokes about the press ppl. He was railing on the president! That should've been funny enough to those in attendance. Maybe they're all in cahoots with Anderson Cooper and his anti-Colbert campaign?

I'm just mainly frustrated I saw absolutely zero shots of Ben Roethlisberger during broadcast. ZERO. Deliver, next time, C-SPAN, for once in your life.

Some of what Colbert said was funny, some of it wasn't, kind of "eh" tho I appreciate the absurdist humor of having a man stand next to the president and basically point at him and yell "ASS" over and over, figuritively.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

but the whole point was Colbert wasn't a fool. he wasn't all that funny, and he didn't amuse. he basically stood up and spent half an hour saying "fuck you" to the leader of the free world. yes, he suggested that the press was not exercising his power, but it was really a symbolic exercise of power on behalf of the millions of Americans who will never get into a stage-managed White House event.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:02 (twenty years ago)

The concept of a WH correspondents dinner is disgusting anyway. Who needs to be reminded of the collusion of power and press?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

haha ally see i don't think he really went after bush much - i mean he did, but it was like "well of COURSE bush and his people are going to do this totally dubious shit", it didn't even seem like he was terribly angry about it. it's funny, though, that we saw this from such different angles.

xpost: didn't amuse who? i thought it was (aside from the video) very top shelf stuff

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

the audience

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm referring to the nationally broadcast event that hundreds of thousands of people have now seen, not anna kournikova and her date dude

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:09 (twenty years ago)

When has the WH correspondents dinner ever done anything OTHER than sat stone faced for the comedy talent! To do anything else would be "undignified"

Bnad (Bnad), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

surely as a politics junkie, gabbneb, you have watched those night-time speeches from the congressional floor on C-SPAN? no one's in the chamber, but that's not the point

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Does Stephen Colbert ever appear to be angry, Tracer? (which is why Shakey/Gabbneb's "It's all about how he stood up and totally sonned the president in a comedy beef" stance is ludicrious as well, not to mention a spurious thing to hang on a comedian, hang on til the end of this post for more) I think you have him confused with Lewis Black, maybe, because he was very much in his "schtick," it's just that I assumed most ppl (WHY I'm not really sure) assumed he was going to tone it down, not blatantly pick at scabs the President refuses to admit even exist, so it's "shocking" or something. Someone doing the thing they do every night as their job = SHOCKING.

Unfortunately, I just didn't think it was that consistently funny (neither did a lot of ppl judging by this thread and the internets in general, so the faux naive "Unfunny to who?" seems silly!!). If he got up there and sang the Charlene song and ranted about bears for a half hour I would've peed my pants, though.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

so you're really familiar with jazzfest then

I'm familiar with jazz.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:14 (twenty years ago)

yes, i take your point (but the point isn't necessarily to say hi to the folks in KS - there are procedural reasons to give those speeches, debates occur, you're getting yourself in the Congressional Record, etc.), but C-Span is a drop in the bucket, tv-audience-wise, and anyway, I'm making an analogy here. no C-Span for court jesters. i'm sure lots of people at home found it funny - i did too, at times. but i don't think being funny was the point. people were more amused by the situation/setup than the 'jokes'.

xpost: I've never actually watched his show, so I can't really speak to his 'shtick'

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:17 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i don't know, i was practically crying at how funny it was but i didn't see the whole thing.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:18 (twenty years ago)

So maybe I'm just easliy amused but I watched it with other ILXors and I thought we were going to knock something over, we were laughing so hard.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

people were more amused by the situation/setup than the 'jokes'

maybe this was true for me too, i can't say

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

I think that's a big part of it, part of what I thought was funny was more about the ludicrious situation than the actual jokes, which would kind of be run of the mill on his program. I was disappointed because his show is funnier than what he did.

Gabbneb if you have never seen The Colbert Report then you are utterly unqualified to discuss whether or not this was him giving some kind of "fuck you" to the world, don't you think? He does these jokes every single night of his life, it would've been expected that he'd do similar at the correspondent's dinner by anyone but the stupidest of event planners.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Funny, ballsy, or not, I think the big thing that Colbert demonstrated is that the President of the United States deserves to be mocked to his face on tv. He certainly didn't say anything controversial. It's just that all that stuff isn't ever said in Bush's presence - like in a press conference - where he doesn't have the luxury of brushing it aside with a few non sequitirs and moving on.

xp. I don't think it's a given that the WH people who booked him should have expected Colbert to be as vicious as he was.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

.. or maybe they should have expected, but that at the very Bush himself was obviously not prepared for it.
Remember a year or two ago, they were the ones doing the pre-taped "Nope, no WMD's here" funnyfunnies.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it the media folk, rather than the WH, who do the booking?

Lewis Black on how he toned it down at last year's dinner (so the size of Colbert's balls could've been expected to shrink similarly):


A third of my act at this point is about performing there. It was horrible. As an audience, we’re talking congressmen, lawyers, judges, lobbyists, congressional correspondents. It’s the most uptight audience on the planet Earth. The only thing that might be worse in terms of being a tough crowd would be for me to play a Baptist convention. That won’t be happening.

...What I did was, I took my act and turned it into a highly refined series of knock-knock jokes.

What do you think that says?

It says I’m a whore.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

it was really a symbolic exercise of power on behalf of the millions of Americans who will never get into a stage-managed White House event.

I think that's the explanation for why lots of people on the left are all excited abt this (if the blogs are any indication). it wouldn't have been such a big deal if the guy hadn't been allowed (including by the press corps) to live in a bubble with blinders on and entirely shielded from direct criticism for nearly his entire presidency (exception: the debates)

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060430/cm_huffpost/020092

Huffington Post sez the media ignored it!

JW (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Colbert gave George Bush
an opportunity to
laugh along with him,

but Bush cannot face
any criticism (and
neither can his wife).

All he had to do
was go "Zing, you got me dude",
then it's all a joke --

Because he didn't,
it looked like a bloodbath, and
that's what he deserves.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

don't ever lump me in with Gabbneb Ally. All I did was start the thread and say that I thought the routine was funny.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I am almost 100% positive that the WH technically has nothing to do with the bookings of the entertainment at the correspondent's dinner but it's not knowledge I have first-hand. Whether or not BUSH was even aware Stephen Colbert existed doesn't mean the organizers knew full well what Colbert's schtick was and couldn't have expected anything much milder than what they got--so yeah, maybe the organizers wanted to watch Bush make his angry little girl who didn't get a pony for Xmas face for a half hour?

xpost I think gabbneb probably was equally offended at being lumped in with you Mr. Holy Shit I Can't Beeeeelieeeeeeeve What Colbert Is Doing.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

look, I agree with you that he was just doing his normal routine (which was not in and of itself surprising).

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I watched this with Laurel and Jon, and we were completely dying. When I watched it alone later and noticed the lack of laughter from the crowd, that made me laugh slightly less. The reactions of those around you can add or detract from how funny you find something--in my situation adding to it, and for those actually attending the dinner, no doubt detracting.

Even watching the video, I occasionally wanted to cover my eyes in the face of of Colbert's (laudable) shamelessness. And honestly, if I'd been in attendance, I think the enormous size of Colbert's balls would have made me uncomfortable. I think the people in the room couldn't help but be affected by Bush's proximity... I think it would have seemed almost too much and too far for the whole room to totally break up over Colbert's scathing routine right in Bush's face (even though I think most of them would have tended towards that reaction in a more neutral environment).

Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

People tone down their acts in these circumstances ALL THE TIME. As Dana Carvey happily recounts the praise he once got from Bush Senior (at the same event?), "You didn't cross the line, and I appreciate it."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:01 (twenty years ago)

being afraid of
an angry potentate is
kind of old-fashioned

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Even watching the video, I occasionally wanted to cover my eyes in the face of of Colbert's (laudable) shamelessness.

Ha, I didn't have this reaction, but I imagine I would have if I was in person... We have those conversations about being painfully uncomfortable when protagonists in movies are....

JW (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)


being humiliated?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:07 (twenty years ago)

That's funny, in an office conversation I just just compared it to my inability to watch "Bringing Up Baby" for same reason.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

1. he didn't tone down his act, hence the thread, the blogging, etc.
2. the fact that speaking bluntly about what a shit government we have makes people uncomfortable is the biggest and most depressing factor in all of this.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

even though he wasn't speaking bluntly, he was being really really nastily sarcastic, which to me personally is just the same I guess

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:12 (twenty years ago)

http://bioguide.congress.gov/bioguide/photo/D/D000345.jpg

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:13 (twenty years ago)

TOMBOT otm

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

OH FOR THE WIT AND WISDOM OF RON REAGAN

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

my impression of the audience reaction was that they laughed moderately at the first part of the act, which was mostly aimed at g.w., then got close to stone silent during the middle part, which was mostly aimed at the media. and then toward the end, when he did a bunch of one-liners about people in the audience, there was much louder laughter than before -- kind of like they'd been holding it in during the media riffs, because either it made them uncomfortable or they were afraid of laughing and offending somebody important at the table. on the funny scale, i think it wasn't lol riotous, but there were some hella good lines. one thing i noticed from reading transcripts before watching the clips is that some of the lines are funnier to read than to watch, in some cases because he botched the delivery.

anyway, the dearth of media coverage is pretty interesting, but i have a feeling that will change in the next day or two. and the initial lack of coverage will become part of the story, too. but that's just a guess, maybe it'll just die away.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.senorcafe.com/archives/RWR.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

i think my favorite part was where he told all the white house correspondents to take some time off from all their hard work, hit the links, spend some time with the family, write that novel they've been knocking around, the one about the courageous washington reporter who stood up to the administration... you know, fiction.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041018/ReaganBlue.small.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

pretty good piece at salon.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:24 (twenty years ago)

aw, I thought his delivery was pretty fantastic. he got the pause before the "enjoy that metaphor, because your grandchildren will have no idea what a glacier is" line down perfectly: I think that line got such a big laugh in part because of its timing.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Interesting bit of trivia derived from the salon article: the dinner was held at the same hotel as the Reagan assassination attempt.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I passed that hotel entrance at my last visit and shook my head over JH's lousy fucking aim.

Uh yeah, it's that he apparently DIDN'T tone down that made the occasion unique.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

i liked the part about generals ordering soldiers into battle from behind big computers.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I figure the audience repsonse this way (and the same goes for the jokes at the Oscars aimed at hollywood freaks on the hollywood scene):

1. The people attending the dinner who were/are self-aware and prepared to laugh at themselves have already thought of most of those jokes and didn't find them all that hilarious - they would probably be more amused by bears + Charlene etc. and obv my household agrees

2. The rest of the crowd didn't get it or yeah, were made uncomfortable and not in the "chuckling uncomfortably" kind of way.

Since Morbius reposted Black's sentiments I wonder (or assume, rather) that that had some influence on why Colbert didn't show any interest in softening it up for the occasion. In hindsight it seems like the Kristol interview was just warm-up stretches.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)


or they are just people who find Mark Russell and the Capitol Steps their kind of Outrageous!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:52 (twenty years ago)

so yeah, maybe the organizers wanted to watch Bush make his angry little girl who didn't get a pony for Xmas face for a half hour?

Dan (Okay Now I Have To See This) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

looks like scalia enjoyed it.

i am guessing that the lack of audience response to the audition tape is due to it being a direct feed into c-span.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

This commentary is OTM...

Apparently, the President was not amused. As noted --

As he walked from the podium the president and First Lady gave Colbert quick nods, unsmiling, and left. E&P's Joe Strupp, in the crowd, observed that quite a few felt the material was, perhaps, uncomfortably biting.

Wasn't it last year at the White House Correspondent's dinner where the President did a HI-LARIOUS bit with some fake home movies showing him looking for those darned elusive WMD's? And they weren't there! It was a laff riot! I was laughing all the way to the 2300 odd military funerals!! Giggling as I donted money to help pay for over 10,000 wounded Americans!! Stop me before I piss myself with glee. But Colbert's bit, that was OUT OF LINE, mister!!

"Uncomfortably biting"? Awwww. Awwwwwwwwwwwww. That's supposed to be YOUR job, "real journalists", making the government -- any government, Republican or Democrat -- feel uncomfortable. Afflict the comfotable and comfort the afflicted. But no, God help a fake journalist actually use satire to point out a bunch of inconvenient truths you don't bother with because either you're too afraid of losing your invites to little prawn&wine parties with the swells, or it might just be too much real work, or, well ... pick your excuse for a non-functioning cowardly domestic media.

Enjoy the stay at Gitmo, Stephen. I'll raise money for your legal defense fund. Assuming they even let you have a trial. Which, although I joke, is entirely legal under the current rules of this Administration.

The President was upset? Good. I hope the President was sleepless with rage. At least then he'd know how most of us have been spending every night for the last three years.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)

only the last 3 years?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually flummoxed at
a) the fact people have so little respect for the power of satire, especially satire injected directly to the wiggling vein of satiree. I mean, how cool is that?
b) the liberal(or non-conservative, if you like) tendency to pooh pooh their own victories, or even identifying their own victories as victories. Proper perspective...sure, but I'm tired of this weak ass sour dour shit.

aside from my contention that the thing was mostly funny, which is subjective. I wish he had had time to memorize it better, delivery was so-so. It is sad that preaching to the unconverted(or people who get paid to pretend they're the unconverted) is such an anathema to the political culture these days but hey, um, it just happened! good thing! dare to be a winner!

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I think this was great
but it was not "victory
for the liberals"

it was colbert's win,
well, his and his writing staff's
(helen thomas too)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

good enough

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I liked this bit from an earlier discussion on KFMonkey(linked to above):

Government that fucked up Katrina isn't going to suddenly pull its pants up and get hypercompetent when Boston gets nuked, or gas goes to $8 a gallon and those white suburbs start collapsing.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Interesting bit of trivia derived from the salon article: the dinner was held at the same hotel as the Reagan assassination attempt.

it's maybe the biggest event hotel in DC, i.e. all of these kinds of things happen there (tho i think there's also stuff at the Mayflower and maybe one or two others)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Haikunym OTM re: victory for Colbert, not liberals.

Dan (That's Where The Perspective Should Kick In) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

btw this is an interesting read:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/04/30/america/web.0430bush.php

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I need to watch it again, but I remember a decent amount of laughter. Little audible laughter /= bad performance.

-- jonviachicago (jon83...), May 1st, 2006.

if i can just pipe in for a sec, coming from a TV production perspective. when people watch stand-up comedy shows on TV, EVERYTHING is laugh-tracked--or at the very least, the audience is mic'd for maximum laugh effect--and that naturally trains viewers to think that if they're not hearing crazy laughter at a comedy routine, that in fact no one's laughing. totally not the case. in the instance of the WH dinner, the audience would not have been mic'd, so you'd have to have a lot of fucking laughter for it to even be audible (like during the glacier joke... an easy one for EVERYONE to laugh at--loudly). juding by the set-up of these types of events, especially when they're broadcast for c-span and not comedy central, i'd estimate that there was quite a bit of laughter actually. and even having said that, i feel like ppl in attendance were probably too much in a state of "holy shit" to actually let it all out.

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:14 (twenty years ago)

That's a good point. C-Span's audio feed may have underemphasized the amount of laughter that was actually going on. On the other hand, the eyewitness descriptions seem to agree that Colbert mostly bombed. I think that people generally didn't laugh because Colbert didn't play by the accepted rules for this sort of a gig. You are allowed to throw a few elbows, but you're not supposed to draw blood. Colbert was merciless. If anything, this may be indicative of the way that cable doesn't play by the old network rules. The national media is no longer the clubby world it once was. Cable news (and I'm lumping in things like Fox News and even stuff like Jon Stewart here) is transgressing the old protocol of evenhandedness and gentlemanly debate. Comedians whose normal act is edgy are supposed to be cowed by the pomp and circumstance of the presidential aura and to tone things down a bit.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I think what was missing from Colbert's speech, and what the other correspondents in the audience were expecting, was that subtext of "We may disagree about lots of things, but underneath it all, we can still laugh and share a beer together" - there was an unmistakable streak of bitterness that came through from Colbert. Like in that joke about Rocky, "The point is the heart warming story of a man who was repeatedly punched in the face." In this speech, it's Colbert who's doing the punching, and he makes no effort to conceal the blows.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)

The right wing reaction has been predictible:
Colbert = not funny (but Laura last year, Imus in '96, and ESPECIALLY Bush & the lookalike = megaroffles)! Especially pathetic for bombing in front of a house packed to bursting with radical anti-American Bush-haters. And the president proves once again he's a grade-A class act for politely sitting through such a wretchedly boring routine.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

well THAT was funny

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

but go back to being a radical anti-American Bush supporter

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

the right wing is mostly backwash.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I think you misunderstood that post, Gabbneb - he was giving the right-wing pundit spin, not necessarily agreeing with it.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, it did seem improbable

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I was regurgitating the right wing pov and trying to adopt their lingo. Like Colbert does, see.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

actually, never mind what i said up there about not hearing the laughing because of technical staging. here's the lame-ass act that happened right before colbert, and you can hear it pretty loud and clear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHJuSbuTlo&search=bush%20impersonator

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

I think what was missing from Colbert's speech, and what the other correspondents in the audience were expecting, was that subtext of "We may disagree about lots of things, but underneath it all, we can still laugh and share a beer together" - there was an unmistakable streak of bitterness that came through from Colbert.

it's really his schtick laid bare though; Colbert is no doubt deft enough to realize jocularity is the order of the day and correct for it but to pull his punches in the president's face would be a betrayal to the character. There's not as much palpable viciousness in the character on television because it's unnecessary and wasteful on television, but it's definitely underneath everything he does. The dinner involved him serving up the essence of the character to the only person in the world it needs to be impressed upon.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

FWIW blah blah blah

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Who is to say that CSPAN didn't change the audio mix for Colbert?

JW (BLACK CHOPPAS) (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

BRIAN LAMB CONSPIRACY

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

silence of teh lamb

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Things like that backwash line are much funnier in transcription. While watching it live, and seeing how Colbert had to back all the way up and take another running start at it after flubbing it, I wasn't really laughing out loud.

Material: funny. Delivery: could've used work.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen the vid yet, but I finally read the transcription. There are plenty of killer lines in this thing, but I do think the biggest thing about all this is, as noted above, the fact that he said all this in person to that particular (captive) audience.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)

http://ee.eng.usf.edu/snider/light/artist/Rockwell/fspeech.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

i saw a few minutes of "imus in the morning" earlier and he and his yes-men thought colbert stunk. but i take the opinion from where it comes -- imus doesn't like this n00b stealing his thunder and probably feels a little threatened, like he wants his OUTLAW crown all to himself.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

jody have you been
taken captive by henchmen
who hate your damn guts?

that is the only
reason I can think of for
watching teh imus

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

ts: "watching" vs. channel surfing

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

oh, and the audition tape really was great.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)

imus though, yeccch. "i'm such a bad-ass i'm not gonna take my cowboy hat off indoors! here, listen to this bad-ass skynyrd song while we transition into a diaper commercial! you're watching MSNBC!"

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

My mom used to watch Imus and wait for bits of skin to fall off his face, as with leprosy.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I think that isn't his real skin, it's like this plastic-bag type material that replaced the lizard skin he shed long ago.

The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Can't it be both, like in "V"?

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

he's become one of the pod people.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Gg_scene.jpg

"Now I love the baby Jesus just like no one else, but Tim Russert needs to drop a few pounds and stop kissing his own ass."

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:41 (twenty years ago)

omg

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Jonah Goldberg again, who does seem To Get It:

But some folks complained that I wasn't hard enough on Stewart. While I do think he's gotten a bit too partisan, I think some people fail to appreciate the demands of his job. He's supposed to make fun of the news. Well, the simple fact is that the Republicans dominate the news. They run the government when the government has a lot on its plate. The irony is that those who argue Stewart should give equal time are imposing a "journalistic" standard on a comedy show while at the same time they complain that it's just a comedy show. The challenge for Stewart is to seem "fair" — so that he doesn't turn off a huge number of viewers who are to his right — but there's no reason to expect him to be "balanced." He should find the humor wherever the humor is. I predict that if the Dems take over the governent, a lot of lefty bloggers will feel betrayed when he turns more of his guns on Dems in power.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

yeah but is anything the dems are doing really worthy of the same vitriol stewart/colbert give to the right? while it's crucial to note that the dems are weak-willed and unorganized, how much comedy can you squeeze out of that? evil is funnier.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

besides, the rest of the media is doing a fine job beating up on hippies and socialists.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Goldberg's problem is that he talks as if lefty bloggers don't already have their guns trained on Dems in power. He probably hasn't realized yet that while "right" and "Republican" are practically synonymous in punditry, the other side doesn't have quite the same "yay our team" allegiance.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was going to point this out in my initial post. His last sentence is a sop to the conservative bloggers to whom he's addressing this post.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Jonah Goldberg isn't very bright, is he.

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Re: the volume of laughter for Colbert's performance, I noticed more than a couple audience members covering their mouths. I think many roffles were suppressed. How freely would you laugh if laughing might be dangerous for your career?

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if colbert will accuse the liberal media of not covering his tribute to the president.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

i hope colbert doesn't get too self-referential about his speech. it would be classy if he just continued on without any mention of it.

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

That isn't "in character."

JW (ex machina), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)

xpost on the one hand you're right, on the other hand he met fucking pappa bear of all pappa bears, if he doesn't mention this he takes himself way too seriously.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it seems more like he'll crow about it for a week, how he got to address the president which just proves how important he is, etc

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

how come he lovingly calls o'reilly "papa bear" if he HATES BEARS? is there something we're supposed to infer here?

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:49 (twenty years ago)

"i wonder if colbert will accuse the liberal media of not covering his tribute to the president"

I will be really surprised if he DOESN'T do this tonight.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

Re: the volume of laughter for Colbert's performance, I noticed more than a couple audience members covering their mouths. I think many roffles were suppressed. How freely would you laugh if laughing might be dangerous for your career?

OTM--fear (i.e. ruining one's career) is an incredible laughter suppressant. I'm sure a good number of those people would have been busting a gut at Colbert's remarks outside of such a very awkward situation. It's easier to find humor objectively than subjectively.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

no one's career was in danger, fer chrissakes. washington journos, politicos, and flacks in preferring obvious gags to irony shocker!

p@reene (Pareene), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

"those clowns in congress did it again. what a bunch of clowns."

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:06 (twenty years ago)

if he'd stuck to "dick cheney shot a guy in the face" jokes he woulda slayed

p@reene (Pareene), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Maybe their careers weren't in danger, that's probably true, but I'm sure they didn't want to walk into any awkward situations Monday morning: "Laugh it up, asshole." etc.

I imagine it's not unlike listening to a really dirty joke with your mom is sitting next to you. No matter how funny it is, you're gonna keep a straight face.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I talked to two comedians tonight about this and they called it "bombing on principle"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 03:31 (twenty years ago)

"those clowns in congress did it again. what a bunch of clowns."

how does it keep up with the news like that?

ath (ath), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)

"bombing on principle"

is that where you get 72 virgins?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 03:51 (twenty years ago)

it's crucial to note that the dems are weak-willed and unorganized, how much comedy can you squeeze out of that?

Stewart did pretty well with Kerry during the campaign, responding to clips from the trail ... rolling his eyes in boredom, or declaring "You're TRYING to lose!"

Bush-is-a-syntactically-challenged-dummy is easier, no doubt -- that's why it was the vein the Man Himself chose to mine at showing what a goshdarn Good Sport he is on Saturday.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

fox & friends weigh in - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KwP6XMxHro

-+-+-+++--, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I thought he was really funny and I'm quite sure he knew what kind of response he was going to get. His real audience wasn't actually the audience.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Jon's reaction

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

He also described the annual dinner as "where the President and the press corps consummate their loveless marriage."

A funny line, but the modern WH media is more like Nora Helmer pre-doorslam. Love or its lack isn't the point, just the withholding or gifting of cash or orgasms.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

TUESDAY'S LETTERS: Colbert Offensive, Colbert Mediocre, Colbert a Hero, Colbert Viscious, Colbert Brave

Way to proofread, E&P!

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Colbert's reaction on his own show was pretty funny

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

colbert viscous

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:29 (twenty years ago)

from today's new york times:


By JACQUES STEINBERG
Published: May 3, 2006

Mark Smith, a reporter for The Associated Press who is president of the White House Correspondents' Association, acknowledges that he had not seen much of Stephen Colbert on Comedy Central before he booked him as the main entertainment for the association's annual black-tie dinner on Saturday night. But he says he knew enough about Mr. Colbert — "He not only skewers politicians, he skewers those of us in the media" — to expect that he would cause some good-natured discomfort among the 2,600 guests, many of them politicians and reporters.

What Mr. Smith did not anticipate, he said, was that Mr. Colbert's nearly 20-minute address would become one of the most hotly debated topics in the politically charged blogosphere. Mr. Colbert delivered his remarks in character as the Bill O'Reillyesque commentator he plays on "The Colbert Report," although this time his principal foil, President Bush, was just a few feet away.

"There was nothing he said where I would have leapt up to say, 'Stop,' " said Mr. Smith, who introduced Mr. Colbert and sat near him on the dais. "I thought he was very funny," Mr. Smith added, though there was hardly consensus on that point yesterday.

At issue was a heavily nuanced, often ironic performance by Mr. Colbert, who got in many licks at the president — on the invasion of Iraq, on the administration's penchant for secrecy, on domestic eavesdropping — with lines that sounded supportive of Mr. Bush but were quickly revealed to be anything but. And all this after Mr. Colbert tried, at the outset, to soften up the president by mocking his intelligence, saying that he and Mr. Bush were "not so different," by which he meant, he explained, "we're not brainiacs on the nerd patrol."

"Now I know there's some polls out there saying this man has a 32-percent approval rating," Mr. Colbert said a few moments later. "But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking 'in reality.' And reality has a well-known liberal bias."

That line got a relatively warm laugh, but many others were met with near silence. In one such instance, he criticized reporters for likening Mr. Bush's recent staff changes to "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic." "This administration is not sinking," Mr. Colbert said; "this administration is soaring. If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg."

In an online survey begun yesterday, the snarky Web site Gawker sought to boil down the matter to its essence by asking readers to vote on whether they thought Mr. Colbert's performance, broadcast live on C-Span and since then widely available on the Internet, was "one of the most patriotic acts I've witnessed of any individual" or "not really that funny."

Meanwhile, on its Web site, the trade journal Editor & Publisher posted more than a dozen letters from readers under a headline that reflected the broad range of electronic opinion: "Colbert Offensive, Colbert Mediocre, Colbert a Hero, Colbert Vicious, Colbert Brave." Mr. Colbert's employer, Comedy Central, said it had received nearly 2,000 e-mail messages by Monday morning — a response, it said, rivaled only by the contentious appearance nearly two years ago of Jon Stewart, Mr. Colbert's comedy patron, on the now-defunct CNN shout-fest "Crossfire."

Others chided the so-called mainstream media, including The New York Times, which ignored Mr. Colbert's remarks while writing about the opening act, a self-deprecating bit Mr. Bush did with a Bush impersonator.

Some, though, saw nothing more sinister in the silence of news organizations than a decision to ignore a routine that, to them, just was not funny.

"I'm a big Stephen Colbert fan, a huge Bush detractor, and I think the White House press corps has been out to lunch for much of the last five years," Noam Scheiber wrote by way of introduction on the New Republic's Web site. But a few lines later he said: "I laughed out loud maybe twice during Colbert's entire 20-odd minute routine. Colbert's problem, blogosphere conspiracy theories notwithstanding, is that he just wasn't very entertaining."

In addition to the challenge of coming after the president and his doppelgänger, Mr. Colbert struggled to find common comedic ground in a room that included politicians across the ideological spectrum, as well as reporters and Hollywood stars. In that sense, he was in good company: many of his recent predecessors — who have included Cedric the Entertainer, Jay Leno, Mr. Stewart, Ray Romano and Al Franken — were knocked, at least in some quarters, for falling flat.

"It's very, very tricky," Mr. Franken, a Democrat who played the dinner twice during the Clinton years but was not there on Saturday, said in an interview. "I thought that what Stephen did was very admirable."

Mary Matalin, a Republican who has served the Bush White House as assistant to the president and counselor to the vice president, had a different take.

"This was predictable, Bush-bashing kind of humor," Ms. Matalin, who was there, said in an interview. Of Mr. Colbert, she said, "Because he is who he is, and everyone likes him, I think this room thought he was going to be more sophisticated and creative."

Mr. Colbert declined through a "Colbert Report" spokeswoman to comment yesterday. Similarly, another Colbert target, Mr. Bush's spokesman, Scott McClellan, said he had no comment, including on reports that Mr. Bush had appeared irritated by the end of Mr. Colbert's speech.

"We'll let others be the entertainment critics," Mr. McClellan said by phone from the White House. "I know better than to insert myself into that one."


scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:59 (twenty years ago)

the headline was about the blogosphere being abuzz. kind of a nothing article really.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Mary Matalin is so scary now.

The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Today's NY Times "analysis" of the immigration protests is like an Onion version of high-handed condescension, it's incredible.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:08 (twenty years ago)

A pertinent question:

http://redstateson.blogspot.com/2006/05/colbertd.html


Colbert really brought it Saturday night. And if his performance won him countless new fans and viewers, it also may have marked his character's prime. Once you humiliate and shame your targets to their faces, the President of the United States included, your job is pretty much done. All subsequent performances are for those who are in on and share the joke -- a reinforcement of their political prejudice. Colbert seems on the verge of mass acceptance; and when "60 Minutes" gives you the soft profile treatment, what's the point of your satire?


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Yes that's true, he's done;
Bush resigned, the war's over,
economy's fine,

everything's great,
no need for satire, hooray!
GLAD THAT'S ALL CLEARED UP

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

poewnj

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

yes, when yr 'satire' is nothin but preaching to the converted (or getting whoops from college kids who honestly don't get it)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:42 (twenty years ago)

ok gramps

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

consarn it, my corns

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Shouldn't you be airing this in the BLOGOSPHERE?

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Colbert was funny, but more importantly he delivered some pretty sharp, aggressive satire. He played to the back of the room. In this case, the back of the room is outside the beltway. Have you seen what these people think is funny? This event is a suckfest. Always has been.

I don't understand why some people feign surprise that this has generated a lot of internet chatter. Everything generates commentary these days, and here we have a satirist delivering his material to a room full of his targets, many of whom may be counted amongst the most powerful people in the world, including the President of the USA.

I mean, I think that's interesting.

Anybody can be crass or nasty (i.e. Imus), but Colbert cut cleanly and efficiently. I think he had some pretty serious material that was of a different charecter than what you normally see at these events. Imus, on the other hand, didn't actually pack his material with a lot of substance, he was mostly just being a dick, a dick that delivered a few yuks--a yuk dick.

And what's Goldberg going on about, with comedians and actors being liberal's political heroes? I just don't see anybody going on about how Shawn Penn is going to save us from ourselves. It's silly. Goldberg knows it's silly too, and so ought that tool who keeps posting Jonah's vapid commentary on this thread.

Also, I pretty much agree with tremendoid. I mean, it was pretty cool, wasn't it?

Also, M. Matalin is a mendacious snake, and whoever said "Goldberg...does seem To Get It" (capitalization not mine) is an ass.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Going on a Bit (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

In fact, anyone who uses any permeatation of the phrase "...gets it" is an ass.

Fluffy Bear Gets It (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:08 (twenty years ago)

N-n-n-n----Fluffy Bear otm!

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:12 (twenty years ago)

a) the fact people have so little respect for the power of satire, especially satire injected directly to the wiggling vein of satiree.

This is funnier than Colbert's entire routine.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I am so so disturbed by the mental image the phrase "yuk dick" gave me that I can't even deal.

Dan (EW!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:19 (twenty years ago)

from Manhattan:

Isaac: “Has anybody read that Nazis are going to march in New Jersey? I read this in the newspaper, we should go down there, get some guys together, you know, get some bricks and baseball bats and really explain things to them.”

[Man]: “There was this devastating satirical piece on that on the op-ed page of the Times. It is devastating.”

Isaac: “Well, well, a satirical piece in the Times is one thing, but bricks and baseball bats really gets right to the point.”

[Woman]: “Oh, but really biting satire is always better than physical force.”

Isaac: “No, physical force is always better with Nazis. Cos it’s hard to satirize a guy with shiny boots.”

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cs.hartford.edu/~gray/pic/imus.jpg

"You like to watch, don't you, Dan?"

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

AAAAAGHHHH! The skin, it falls off his face in great flecks onto the Bud Light logo they've co-opted for his name.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wwmj-fm.com/imus.gif

"I,uh, like to think of myself as an erotic superstar."

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Also, you really don't encounter that many syndicated radio hosts who don spurs for their web promo shot.

Que lastima.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

^^^^Actually I think I've just identified the whole entire BudLight demographic in a nutshell^^^

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry if this has been posted - I didn't see it anywhere?:
From US News

"Skewering comedy skit angers Bush and aides
By Paul Bedard

Posted 5/1/06

Comedy Central star Stephen Colbert's biting routine at the White House Correspondents Association dinner won a rare silent protest from Bush aides and supporters Saturday when several independently left before he finished.

"Colbert crossed the line," said one top Bush aide, who rushed out of the hotel as soon as Colbert finished. Another said that the president was visibly angered by the sharp lines that kept coming.

"I've been there before, and I can see that he is [angry]," said a former top aide. "He's got that look that he's ready to blow."

Colbert's routine was similar to what he does on his show, the Colbert Report, but much longer on the topic of Bush, suggesting that the president is out of touch with reality. Aides and reporters, however, said that it did not overshadow Bush's own funny routine, which featured an impersonator who told the audience what Bush was thinking when he spoke dull speech lines.

In fact, some aides crowed over reports that the president easily bested Colbert in the reviews of both comedy acts.
"


http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060501/1whwatch.htm

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:34 (twenty years ago)

BUSH IS A PUSSY

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 4 May 2006 03:13 (twenty years ago)

In fact, some aides crowed over reports that the president easily bested Colbert in the reviews of both comedy acts.

yes who would have expected that the washington press corps would find the president MUCH funnier than some smartass from new york? or that they would universally assure the president of such in one article and column after another, like tony snow's grading their papers?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 4 May 2006 03:37 (twenty years ago)

although even by courtier standards, this is pretty remarkable.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 4 May 2006 05:54 (twenty years ago)

I am not a member of the White House Correspondents' Association, and I have not attended its dinner in years

aw, jealous much?

jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 4 May 2006 06:12 (twenty years ago)

All I know is that the more guys like that who line up to say THAT'S NOT FUNNY, the more I'm laughing. Also the implication that poor wee George got his ickle feelings hurt by the big bad comedy bully - loving that too. Here's some Spanish GWB might understand: POBRECITO.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

He referred to the recent staff changes at the White House, chiding the media for supposedly repeating the cliche "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" when he would have put it differently: "This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring. If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg." A mixed metaphor, and lame as can be.

but that was one of the funniest lines. this man does not love funny.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I think Cohen's column is very much in line with his usual steez.
His take doesn't make much sense to me, that the president is somehow not in the rape zone because he is a guest at the dinner, but it's interesting that he thinks that way. He's going to get mailbombed for it, anyway.

point being that acting "with us or against us" re: subjective level of enjoyability of Colbert's performance is just a little, uh, fucking lame and short-sighted.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:56 (twenty years ago)

I think this is as Nature and the Colbert intend, Tom.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I think this is relevant:
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/03/26/PH2005032604396.gif

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:00 (twenty years ago)

He had a chance to tell the president and much of important (and self-important) Washington things it would have been good for them to hear. But he was, like much of the blogosphere itself, telling like-minded people what they already know and alienating all the others. In this sense, he was a man for our times.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

This is a tired phrase, as we all know, but when it was fresh and meaningful it suggested repercussions, consequences -- maybe even death in some countries. When you spoke truth to power you took the distinct chance that power would smite you, toss you into a dungeon or -- if you're at work -- take away your office.

WAHT

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Lead graf:

First, let me state my credentials: I am a funny guy. This is well known in certain circles, which is why, even back in elementary school, I was sometimes asked by the teacher to "say something funny" -- as if the deed could be done on demand. This, anyway, is my standing for stating that Stephen Colbert was not funny at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner.

Ok this is some kind of McSweeney's redirect hack, right?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

"b-b-b-but the Hindenburg didn't even HAVE decks! you call that a joke??"

Renard (Renard), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

are we to believe this is some sort of magic hindenberg??!!

-+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

I love how ppl like to announce themselves as being funny dudes, or good dancers, or stuff like that. Cos the ppl who are the most vocal about being super funny or super great at X are usually totally awful, it's like as soon as someone says something like that apropos of nothing to start off some monologue, I know to switch off.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

I think what threw people so much was that Colbert was acting instead of doing standup. When you're doing standup you can wink to the crowd and establish a knowingness or whatever but Colbert is an actor and he decided to do it straight, which when you're reading lines like that is the ONLY was to do it - any actor will tell you the funniest lines have to be done the straightest, with high stakes and passion, that's exactly what Colbert did, anybody who tells you he was "off" or whatever is either full of shit, has no sense of humor or is a right-wing bastord, so it's a handy barometer, it's just too bad only like 30 people ever saw this

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)

it's like as soon as someone says something like that apropos of nothing to start off some monologue, I know to switch off.

Yup, exactly. It's like a Fred Willard character; the best way to assert your humorless is to explicitly state that you're a pretty funny guy, and like a good joke as much as everybody else, etc

Also, apparently in the ABC News video of the speech, the audience laughter is far more audible.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

A mixed metaphor, and lame as can be.

cuz you know, TV pundits don't mix metaphors.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:39 (twenty years ago)

anybody who tells you he was "off" or whatever is either full of shit, has no sense of humor or is a right-wing bastord

oh right so me thinking his delivery was really stilted and took a huge amount of the punch from his gags makes me an asshole. thanks. this was exactly my fucking point, above. I guess I'll just go vote republican from now on 'cause god forbid I disagree with the hivemind occasionally. Free Mumia?

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:41 (twenty years ago)

as Pleasant Plains pointed out way above, the whole bit is a lot tighter and funnier when read as transcript than it was on TV.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Tracer the whole last bit between "did" and "it's" makes you look like an enormous jerk.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

LISTEN YOU EITHER LOL'D AT COLBERT ON CSPAN AND THANKED HIM ON THE BLOG OR YOU CAN JUST GO DRIVE YOUR HUMMER TO SOCCER PRACTICE. IF YOU DIDN'T HATE BUSH IN 1999 THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS HATING HIM NOW. THERE'S NO ROOM FOR SECOND THOUGHTS OR COMPROMISE ON THE LEFT WING. THAT'S HOW WE WIN.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

it's just too bad only like 30 people ever saw this

a friend of mine in PERU e-mailed the clip out to her whole address book. it was a drag that all the day-after coverage was about how Dubya had such a good sense of humor with his doppleganger, but i think the word got out nevertheless.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I've only read the transcript and not watched the video of the White House thing, but on Colbert Report he stumbles and fucks up the jokes pretty often IMO. it's kinda frustrating.

Renard (Renard), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:47 (twenty years ago)

He totally had funny lines they just didn't seem very funny consistently while he was delivering them because he was maybe nervous or something go figure live performance might mean a bit stilted and flubby from guy who's been doin something else for a while now than live improv let's go over this ad nauseum.

Whatever, the funniest thing is the response this is getting, instapundit clones all insisting one after another NOT FUNNY while repeating his lines over and over again, pointing out how they're NOT FUNNY AND NO ONE CARES OR EVEN KNOWS ABOUT HIS PERFORMANCE, way to go with not giving the routine publicity dudes.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:50 (twenty years ago)

kingfish's repost of americablog's repost of the drudge report's completely mistargeted bitch about the ratings diff between an 11:30pm talkshow and a 2-hour primetime shit spiel aimed at morans is a really, really great sum-up of that.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

it's just too bad only like 30 people ever saw this

LOLOLOLOLOL

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

HEY LISTEN CONSERVATIVE BLOGTARDS, THIS SHOW, THE COLBERT REPORT? NOBODY WATCHES IT!!! NOBODY!!! NOBODY EVER EVER WATCHES IT!!!

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm going through my bandwidth incredibly fast.

THOSE THIRTY DUDES SURE DO SUCK UP SOME BANDWIDTH

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

i like my reposts, consarnit.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:17 (twenty years ago)

The wit and wisdom of an aggrieved Richard Cohen:

[Stephen Colbert] is representative of what too often passes for political courage, not to mention wit, in this country. His defenders — and they are all over the blogosphere — will tell you he spoke truth to power. This is a tired phrase, as we all know, but when it was fresh and meaningful it suggested repercussions, consequences — maybe even death in some countries. When you spoke truth to power you took the distinct chance that power would smite you, toss you into a dungeon or — if you're at work — take away your office.

But in this country, anyone can insult the president of the United States. Colbert just did it, and he will not suffer any consequence at all. He knew that going in. He also knew that Bush would have to sit there and pretend to laugh at Colbert's lame and insulting jokes. Bush himself plays off his reputation as a dunce and his penchant for mangling English. Self-mockery can be funny. Mockery that is insulting is not. The sort of stuff that would get you punched in a bar can be said on a dais with impunity. This is why Colbert was more than rude. He was a bully.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Haha Ally I am an enormous jerk whenever I talk about acting.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Richard Cohen is the A Nairn of roffles commentary

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

oh noes teh prasidetn has been bullied !!!!!!!!111

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

also hahas but the problem I'm saying I had was that his acting was terrible!!! You low-standards cad! I say to you good day.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

So did anyone here find that doppelganger thing to be entertaining? I watched a few minutes, but thankfully it was on the computer, so I could enjoy the luxury of skipping the hell past it.

Øystein (Øystein), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I love how Tombot makes this all about "WELL ****I**** DIDN'T THINK HE WAS FUNNY EITHER"

JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

The doppleganger thing scared the hell out of me.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

My favorite part of that wound-licking Cohen piece was this:

[... H]e failed dismally in the funny person's most solemn obligation: to use absurdity or contrast or hyperbole to elucidate -- to make people see things a little bit differently.

Colbert was was not only playing sharp satire to a tough crowd -- he failed in his duty as a funny person! i.e. HE IS NOT FIT TO WEAR THAT UNIFORM.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Also, to say that comedy entails any obligation is the ripest bullshit evar.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

It's true he would've been more of a hero if W had taken a swing at him, which is why "Laura, killer driver" material shoulda made the cut.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

he should have just carried a barrel of wet shit up there and flung it at people.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

the secret service never would have allowed a barrel in there.

several boxes of Poppycock or possibly ever Screaming Yellow Zonkers could have made the cut, tho.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Morbius, soooo otm

JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

TOM WANTS EVERYONE TO PLAY NICE so let's have a fucking tea party and be droll.

Colbert flinging shit at the magnates of gov't and press WOULD have been funny; I am chuckling just thinking of it.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

the funny person's most solemn obligation

http://www.junebughunter.net/images/beavis.jpg

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:24 (twenty years ago)

also, he DID make people see things a little bit differently -- "gee, some people actually won't turn off their righteous disgust at historically criminal gangsters, even in the name of presumed (but likely fictional) careerist advantage."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

oh no elmo I'm not interested in playing nice.
but you're kind of like a trife-in-training what with the incessant self-congratulatory attacks on easy targets for lazy thinkers, except where mr padgetz will occasionally produce a thread or post of great merit, all i ever see from you is tiresome venom and the occasional complete misunderstanding of any point that somebody else is trying to make which isn't noize frat lockstep.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

so fuck off, dickwipe.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

You're going on my "Ignore" list too once Andrew invents it.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

And you are so not invited to my pool party.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

wait, you have a pool?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

If Andy Griffith from A Face in the Crowd was here, he'd suddenly declare THIS IS MAH HONEYMOON THREAD! YOU AHH ALLLL IGNORRRRED!!!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Do you actually think people find you funny?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm genuinely curious. I mean, well sonned, etc, just like yesterday pointing out that in 2004, prior to a pathologically unfunny, bitter old gynophobe showing up on ILX, I couldn't think of a single person--not Calum, not Becky Lucas, not even oops--that I'd use an ignore on, you sure are showing me, but I am actually genuinely curious what you get out of this besides alleviating your lonely boredom?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Tom, the weary, condescending insight you've cultivated so well makes you a pretty easy target. In the past two days you've positioned yourself against those ganging up on (in my opinion, rather despicable) targets, not because they deserve respect, but because the gang-up just isn't funny to you. You seem pretty settled in your opinions (and politically, I feel we have at least similar views), but I don't feel I have the luxury (nor the patience, nor inclination) to suffer such hateful, ignorant fools as gladly as you do.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

one day you too will be almost thirty, and spend more time being angry at people who remind you of yourself, instead of getting pissed off at all the other ones you can easily figure out

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

bitter old gynophobe

I love Greek food!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

TOMBOT, I don't mind that you think Colbert gave a weak performance. I agree, too, that comedy is subjective, and that it is ridiculous to claim that one's critical response to his performance is necessarily indicitive of one's political leanings.

But I'm new to this community, so could you please tell me, for future reference, DO YOU ALWAYS USE CAPS AND HYPERBOLE AND RIGHTEOUS ANGER EVERY TIME YOU IDENTIFY A TRANSGRESSION, ESPECIALLY ONE AGAINST A RIGHT-LEANING TARGET THAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE JUST ATTACKED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Just wondering. (I'm teasing, so please don't call me a boring wimp. I may implode.) [winky-smiley emoticon]

Fluffy Bear Startin' Some Unnecesary Shit (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

yeah most of the time, this whole bitching at other posters for wasting time dogpiling right-leaning dweebs is a pretty recent development though

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I admire the difficulty he has using Macs!

-- JW (jo...) (webmail), May 2nd, 2006 4:24 PM. (ex machina) (later) (link) (admin) (userip)

He doesn't have difficulty using Macs, he makes it all up because he convinced me to buy a computer that turned out to be basically a known lemon and therefore looked BAD to a GURL about COMPUTER STUFFS and this compounded with the amount of times he's personally damaged my/his technological equipment because he had a DRINKING "HOBBY" PLUS INABILITY TO READ DIRECTIONS means he has to BE V ANGRY TO SAVE FACE IN FRONT OF GURLS. ie the "not my fault, gov'nor" excuse

Truth is out there!

-- Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyza...) (webmail), May 2nd, 2006 4:27 PM. (allyzay) (later) (link) (admin) (userip)

JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't care for the "Colbert is a hero" reaction, either. I think he is a great satirist, though. I think that what he did was hard to do, even if the whole "truth to power" thing has become cliche, especially WRT entertainers.

And WRT the slow-moving target thing: Listen, I know of a lot of smart people who don't seem to be aware of how ridiculous our government and our popular civic discourse has become. Maybe a little satire could redirect a few thoughts. Just sayin'.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

I think my big issue is that I'm really losing my patience for posts that follow this format:

right leaning article repost. right leaning article repost, right leaning, right leaning, article repost. right leaning article repost right leaning article repost, right leaning article repost. right leaning article repost. right leaning article repost repost, right leaning article repost.

right leaning article repost.

What an obvious example of a douchebag

-- Polonius Feeb, February 31st, 2006.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

i don't remember that part of Hamlet but it sounds better thhan any of the Polonius lines that i do

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I guess I am wasting time. Deliberately. At work. :/

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I am better than Shakespeare in a lot of ways

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Basically, Tom & Ally =

"A carton of hate and a wedge of spite," inseparable, dangerous, don't turn your back on 'em, but somehow lovable and popular because of it.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Hahahah, beautiful. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

and, by the way, Cohen is a liberal

(mega xxxpost)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

claudius: "my words fly up, my thoughts remain below / words without thoughts never to heaven go"

polonius: "what an obvious example of a douchebag"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Cohen is a Liberal.

Which is why I am no longer a liberal.

I am a tigger.

"For of all the things which he had said Tiggers could do, the only one he felt really certain about suddenly was climbing trees."

Call it the Fourth Way.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

and, by the way, Cohen is a liberal

"liberal"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

exactly

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)

"Avoiding self-hatred is what tiggers do best!"

Fluffy Bear, (T) Minnesota (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Christ Almighty Fuck,
is this thread still going on?
What The Holy HELL

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I'll defend Joe Klein, but not that dude

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

"For of all the things which he had said Tiggers could do, the only one he felt really certain about suddenly was calling Joe Kline an indefensible suckwad."

Fluffy Bear, (T) Minnesota (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:28 (twenty years ago)

I'll concede that it is pretty sad that Colbert is being hailed as a great truth-telling patriot -- though I do admire what he did -- if only because in a room full of White House journalists, he, a comedian, was the only one with the balls (and perhaps, one could argue, the privilege) to call out the fraud and corruption of this administration. Colbert's speech was caustic, but I think the press corp deserved the rough handling for their complicity.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Tiggers can do all sorts of things, but they can't spell Joe Klines
's name properly. It's against their nature.

Fluffy Bear, (T) Minnesota (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

have we talked about Joe Klein's politics-as-rockism book yet?

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Joe Klein is a hipster.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

polonius: "and oh yes, hamlet?"

hamlet: "what"

polonius: "don't take any wooden nickels and, you know, er, to thine own self be true"

hamlet: "what an obvious example of a douchebag"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

elmo's right. One could go on and on about how obvious Colbert's material was, but it is unusual for this president to be confronted openly and publicly.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Joe Klein doesn't get it.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

"it" being "jailbait hummers"?

Dan (Curious) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

thefluffybearmystery

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Being silly is what Tigger do best. Tiggers don't have to make sense, for fuck's sake; they're Tiggers.

Getting jailbait hummers is what Tiggers who know better are best to avoid.

Fluffy Bear, (T) Minnesota, Heart's Self Referential Self Deprication. (Self Re, Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes Tiggers aren't witty or sensible, even. Sometimes Tiggers are just drunk at work and the fluffybearmystery becomes a fluffybear...

what the hell is wrong with me?

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Permutation doesn't get it is what hipsters do best.

Somebody Cut Fluffy Bear's Breaks (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Permutation Brakes.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:15 (twenty years ago)

This is the most amusing cry for help I've ever read.

Dan (Tell Us More) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, I've been trying to stop. Sometimes Tiggers just try to stop typing. Stopping typing is harder than bouncing.

Fluffy Bear Has Gone Somewhere Very Dark and Mysterious (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Um.

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

so what do y'all think about ray mcgovern?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Those who said Colbert's speech reads funnier than he delivered it are OTM. I personally don't mind that he came off more mean than funny, but this whole bruhaha is ridiculous. Why do so many people care so much about the reaction/lack thereof to this? I'm as much of a Bush-hater and MSM-hater as the next guy, but this whole thing is just boring.

J (Jay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

I agree. I read the transcript is funnier than performance.

BTW, poster # 300+ wants to put in his 2 cents because THIS IS SO BORING WHY DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN CARE STOP BORRING ME.

Fluffy Bear IS SO BOOOOOOOOORED (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha dude we couldn't tell or anything!

Dan (Go Home Already!) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, are you familiar with the term "yiff"?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

what about "care bear felching"?

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Here is what amazed me about the whole thing. My super-conservative Christian nutjob friend (former roommate of my husband) hadn't heard about this yet on Monday morning and when I mentioned it to him via email, he couldn't wait to see it/read the transcript because... (wait for it)... he loves Colbert and thinks he is a great conservative counterpoint to Jon Stewart's show. It was all I could do to not write back, "you have a college degree and you majored in political science... how can you NOT understand satire?!"

I want to know how to become a Tigger now.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

HA! Actually I'm quite busy, and we can now add irresponsible to the list right after unbalanced, tiresome, and needs a nap.

I had to look up "yiff". Are you saying that you find me yiffable, or are you saying that I am yiffing my self off here like some sort uf fluffy narcissist?

Why are people still posting on this thread? You are so BORING. Why do you even CARE? God, caring is so BORING.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Sara, you have got to be kidding me. I believe you, but I am still incredulous. I can only maintain these opposing forces for so long before I implode. You're not making this up are you?

Tiggers like to bounce. This is well established. Tiggers also like to understand that contemporary political discourse in the USA is a big stinking pile of nonsense. Tiggers quite often, but not necessarily, like to agree with me.

Tiggers like amuse themselves to no end. This is easy for a Tigger to do.

Fluffy Bear Yiffing Off. Good Night and Good Luck. Anybody who posts after thi, Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.felidae.org/PROJECTS/Tiger_in_Cambodia/pp%20post%208-8.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Fluffy, eat it. I wasn't talking about this thread, I was talking about the debate in general.

J (Jay), Thursday, 4 May 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

http://www.airynothing.com/photos/Felicia/Felicia-Thumbnails/24.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.airynothing.com/photos/Felicia/Felicia-Thumbnails/16.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.airynothing.com/photos/Felicia/Felicia-Thumbnails/26.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Nope, not kidding. (I only wish I was!) I had to pick my jaw up off the floor and really think before I wrote back to him.

And now I'm guilty of being BORING! This is shocking, shocking!

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Thursday, 4 May 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

he loves Colbert and thinks he is a great conservative counterpoint to Jon Stewart's show.

Thanks for the first-hand evidence of what I suspected. Not that diff from ppl who thought Springsteen was a Reaganite in '84 -- once you account for the steepening cultural brain erosion since.

Tiggers are so September 10th.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)

One of ABC's cameras stayed on Bush for the full 7 minutes of Colbert's audition tape. This is pretty hard to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVnw_tqZ_Hg

Matt LC (flightsatdusk), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:27 (twenty years ago)

I thought his squirming was very enjoyable to watch.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the first-hand evidence of what I suspected.

Ummmm... you're welcome?

I don't know, it kind of freaks me out. Two reasons: First, I am related to quite a few people with a similar mindset - they seem like they exist entirely in their own reality. Could I become that untethered? Second, it seems like the people in charge of the USA also have this mindset. That just flat-out frightens me. Having kids makes it worse.

RE: Tiggers and not caring, my problem is that I do care about all this crap (boring or not) but that doesn't seem to help much. I don't know that Colbert's comments amount to much in the sense that anything will change, but it was pleasant to see someone sticking it to the President right in his face.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Can someone tell me about Fluffy Bear and Sara Robinson-Coolidge and their relation to Minnesota?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Someone's nefarious files are OUT-OF-DATE!

(They went to high school with me and John J.)

Dan (Heh) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Okay, that's what I thought!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

(And gbx.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

(gbx didn't go to high school with us; we're all senior citizens compared to him)

Dan (Speak Up, Sonny) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Seven minutes of the president squirming

To go along with the classroom footage?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:52 (twenty years ago)

Compared to the rest of you young'uns, I am a senior citizen. And that includes you, Mr. Perry. (I'd offer to have a gray-hair contest, but every time my sister sees one on my head, she pulls it out. Maybe that's okay for the time being, but I foresee a difficult future for my hairstyle).

Dan sums up our relation to Minnesota well. I notice he is the only one of us to leave (and then to not move back).

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

RE: Tiggers and not caring

I am not in the least bit surprised to discover that my comments upthread were, um, a little opaque.

I did, however, manage to antagonize J.

Tggers are never bored.

Fluffy Bear, (T) Minnesota (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Sen. Bear (T-MN)

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm easily antagonized on ILX. Ask anybody!

J (Jay), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

Compared to the rest of you young'uns, I am a senior citizen.

You're one year older than John, El Jeffe (Hopa!) and me! Although that means you're going to be 35 first, so yeah you're old.

(xpost: Hahaha J!)

Dan (Ancient Even) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I am old only in spirit and body.

Why am I still at work?

Fluffy Bear Hearts Friends, Old and New (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Because visiting hours at the humane society don't start until 7:30?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Because the drinking binge doesn't start until 8:00?

Dan (Shot In The Dark) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha. Hello, Jeff.

So should I get mine own bizarro high school friends to post here?

suzy (suzy), Friday, 5 May 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)

NO. PLEASE TO NOT DIMINISH OUR NUTJOB PREFECTION. HLO SUZY.

So this is where you fuckers all hang out. Perhaps this can be the HSTNGS equivalent of "Chicago, TITTWIS UK WATERCOOLER circlejerkgangbang."

Of course, you are all invited, my internet friends. Come on in, the waters fine!

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:39 (twenty years ago)

come on in the grammars fine ok whatever.

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:40 (twenty years ago)

You're one year older than John, El Jeffe (Hopa!) and me! Although that means you're going to be 35 first, so yeah you're old.

Didn't anyone tell you that kids give you an extra decade of seniority?

gbx, I meant to ask you your age (young man - or woman?). This only occurred to me when in the middle of a totally old person type dinner (wine bar, fancy dinner, rare night with a babysitter - but look I'm already home and it's only 9:30. And my grammar is much better than John's, so you know I'm sober.)

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Saturday, 6 May 2006 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, gbx, what I meant to ask was what year you graduated.

(Note to self: you're maybe not as sober as your think you are after visit to wine bar. Duh.)

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Sunday, 7 May 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I think next year Arthur Magazine should host the dinner.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

http://members.aol.com/hhamp5246/BearSex.gif

Fluffy Bear Hearts Pleasant Plains (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Not helping your case any.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

You were just traumatized as a child.

http://www.carobinson.com/games/EMT%20-%20BEAR%201990.jpg

Fluffy Bear Hearts Pleasant Plains (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Ten Bucks says the dude who designed this won't be moving to Taylor's Falls any time soon.

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone have any links to Jon or Colbert's reactions the next day on their respective shows? I was out that night and missed them.

Laurah (laurah), Monday, 8 May 2006 17:15 (twenty years ago)

"Ballsalicious"

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I AM GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES FOR WEEKS NOW

Dan (Gah) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Put a quarter in me. Mwrrrrrr mmwrrrrrr mwrrrrrr mwrrrrrr...

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

http://www.kiddieridesusa.com/data/userImages/Car%20-%20Mr.%20Potato%20Head.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

MONTHS EVEN

Dan (My Eyes) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Another kiddie ride designer banned from Taylor's Falls:

ihttp://www.evilwhiteguy.com/blog/images/dduck.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Dan, meet me at the asylum, third padded white cell from the left. (Jeff - your name is all over my future Klonopin addiction).

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)

...

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bmigaming.com/Images/falgas-comictraininteractive-23263.jpg

http://creature-corner.com/nextraimages/hannibalmaskpic.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)

http://indra.webvis.net/image/DSC00342.JPG

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.selectamuse.co.uk/MImage/Mr_Blobby_Boat.jpg

Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

COlbert rises to the top on google video

http://video.google.com/videoranking


Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:48 (twenty years ago)

I finally saw the whole thing there last weekend. Gotta say it's amazing his timing was only as off as it was given the Power Frost being directed at him from the dais and audience, especially when you're accustomed to collegians who will howl at your setup lines.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/24/delay-colbert/

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

nothing surprises me anymore

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Are the commenters there really stupid/blind enough to not realize that Republicans have a sense of humor too?

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

they may have a sense of humor, but come on, that does seem a little weird - relying on a parodist of the right to validate the right's talking points...? I mean, what?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

I don't think it's weird at all - by adopting Colbert and pushing his persona (sans context), they get to be in on the joke too.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

I think Delay may actually not be aware - after all Michael Moore send campaign contributions taht were accepted by candidates for things like "Satanists of America"

Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Thursday, 25 May 2006 04:10 (twenty years ago)

There's a big difference in some anonymous drone cashing a check and a fundraising promo that had to be approved by numerous people.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 25 May 2006 11:14 (twenty years ago)

And of course this happens at the start of Colbert's 2-week vacation.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/66721.htm

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:55 (twenty years ago)

ugh

and what (ooo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

ugh aussi, but CONTEXT? It sounds like one of his funnies but he DID go to Hampden-Sydney.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Colbert's commencement address at Knox College.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
So, how do they follow this up?

With Rich Little, of course! (more from the CC blog)

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Little tears a strip out of 'em!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I hope he does his whole speech as Bob Hope.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

plenty of golf jokes! ahoi, polloi!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

"We don't need to have a blogfest and a partisan slugfest after the dinner. We don't need that."

Yea, nothing that will make the journalistic mainstream look out of touch

roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Quite frankly having a slugfest after any sort of dinner sounds great to me.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Don't overeat during dinner, you want to save room for the slugfest.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sequart.com/members/graphics/18/L&R12_cover.jpg

Mmmm!

Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

A friend of my once shamefully admitted that he had an erotic dream starring Joyce DeWitt, aka Janet from Three's Company. This was long after the show was off the air.

joygoat (joygoat), Friday, 19 January 2007 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

That was totally and completely in the wrong thread, by the way.

joygoat (joygoat), Friday, 19 January 2007 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/wanda-sykes-takes-presidents-critics-white

pen(istentiary) (stevie), Sunday, 10 May 2009 11:25 (seventeen years ago)

obama killed at this. wanda sykes was ehh ok.

gabbneb being gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 May 2009 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

Ok, so who are his writers?

my features are so intense (kenan), Sunday, 10 May 2009 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

Jonah Goldberg was Not Amused.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 May 2009 16:30 (seventeen years ago)

frank rich's column today:

IF you wanted to pick the moment when the American news business went on suicide watch, it was almost exactly three years ago. That’s when Stephen Colbert, appearing at the annual White House Correspondents’ Association dinner, delivered a monologue accusing his hosts of being stenographers who had, in essence, let the Bush White House get away with murder (or at least the war in Iraq). To prove the point, the partying journalists in the Washington Hilton ballroom could be seen (courtesy of C-Span) fawning over government potentates — in some cases the very “sources” who had fed all those fictional sightings of Saddam Hussein’s W.M.D.

Colbert’s routine did not kill. The Washington Post reported that it “fell flat.” The Times initially did not even mention it. But to the Beltway’s bafflement, Colbert’s riff went viral overnight, ultimately to have a marathon run as the most popular video on iTunes. The cultural disconnect between the journalism establishment and the public it aspires to serve could not have been more vividly dramatized.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 May 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Hodgeman was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW7OPByRGDY

all art is propaganda (kenan), Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:19 (seventeen years ago)

haha Dune

kingfish, Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:55 (seventeen years ago)

Liked the inhaler gag, too.

I would have missed the Conan the Barbarian question (and aced the rest), but I think Conan was a jock, anyway.

all art is propaganda (kenan), Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:57 (seventeen years ago)

gah, what a punchable face that guy has

more tang than an astronaut (bug), Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:59 (seventeen years ago)

(Currently downloading a deluxe edition of Wrath of Khan. His speech truly did inspire me.)

all art is propaganda (kenan), Sunday, 21 June 2009 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Damned if I'm gonna watch the monologue to know, but I've read that one of Jimmy Kimmel's jokes was roughly "Obama wanted the dinner to happen at the Kennedy Center but the Republicans wanted the Hilton, so they negotiated and came up with a compromise and here we are at the Hilton."

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

Obama: “What is the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull? A pitbull is delicious.”

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)


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