people who wear the collars of their polo shirts flipped up

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DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

REVENGE OF I LOVE THE 80s

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't worry, they're punishing themselves by slightly reducing their own wind resistance. Let's see who gets to the soda fountain for that refill first, SUCKA!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

everyone who's bought a dave matthews cd today has sported this look

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha strongo you fuck.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

straight sociological reportage dude

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

All spotty, proto-fratguy dudes who went to high school in the upper-middle class area of RIchmond where my office was and ate at the pizza place I liked sported this look.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

especially pink polo shirts. fratty fratty fratty

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Hence my "soda fountain" comment, I guess.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw one last night! It was an electric melon sort of colored shirt.

mr teeny: "that's when you know you're old."
me: "when you see someone younger than you wearing something you wore in junior high?"
mr teeny: "Yeah."

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

cam'ron, so much to answer for

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm trying to picture this, but failing. maybe my brain doesn't let me. i haven't ever seen this here.

― nathalie in a bar under the sea (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard someone tell a story of a bouncer keeping a guy out of a bar for wearing his collar flipped up. Dude flipped it down, got in, flipped it back up, and then got loads of shit from said bouncer. And then, once the collar guy decided to leave, POPPED his collar in the bouncer's face. INSULT MASTER.

For the record, my collar flippery happened well before DMB was teh shit. It, however, did coincide w/ my attempt to grow a mullet and rock the paisley button-down shirt. I still don't know how I survived high school.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

BLAME ONE KANYE

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

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P!O!P!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

There are popped collar and anti-popped collar clubs here on campus. Students have too much time on their hands. As I type this at work...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure it must help one with lacrosse training

― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

DOWN WITH UP!

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― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Hangonwait THAT's what pop your collar means??

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

goes wiv the townies in my ends innit... wiv yer trousers tucked in yer socks like

― chav menko, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, so maybe I'm not sure if "pop" and "flip" are one & the same. I apologize for that. I'm going to leave now.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I've done this when I've been at the beach too long and I don't want any more sun, so I put the shirt back on (I don't usually wear collarless shirts) and have turned the collar up to avoid getting a red neck.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember when people used to wear a polo with a long sleeved dress shirt over it? And a jeans jacket ... Three fucking collars.

― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i had to check to see what year this thread was from. i guess i manage to stay away from a lot of polo-shirted people somehow. or ignore them.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew it! Flipping the collar up seemed sort of Spencer Chow.

I'm with Julia -- I don't encounter anyone wearing polo shirts, let alone with the collar flipped up. So I don't really have an opinion on it, I haven't seen enough it to care about it.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, hello the frat rapist MGD-guzzling tennis club Maxim-reading young republicans of San Diego State University.

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

My dad does this. I am now mad at all of you.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, I'm over it now.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

old people don't count when it comes to fashion. i can't wait to be old.

― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't flip (generally) but i do wear polo shirts!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm going to wear a polo shirt tomorrow and flip up the collar in defiance of this thread.

― The Ghost of I'M FIFTY! (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

You should rape a frat and guzzle a tennis club too.

― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew it! Flipping the collar up seemed sort of Spencer Chow.

I'm with Julia -- I don't encounter anyone wearing polo shirts, let alone with the collar flipped up. So I don't really have an opinion on it, I haven't seen enough it to care about it.

I don't usually flip!

However, I can't really wear a t-shirt by itself, it feels strange to me to be collar-less.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't flip either, but some of my friends do and it works for them, not in the fratboy/sorority girl way either! also, pink is a good color, cam'ron should be commended for that.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Are we talking about, like, the WHOLE collar flipped up? Pics pls.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, wait, that's not true, i have flipped! guys, i'm a flipper. a blue lacoste with a PINK tee underneath, i totally flipped that. i haven't flipped since though, i can tell you that much.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Euro dudes do this all the time- over there it doesn't signify in the way it does in the US- here it means you are either hella gay or hella preppy/fratty in an unreconstructed scary ass fashion.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Or it signifies your ironic engagement with said stereotypes.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"Hi! I am ironically gay!"

― The Ghost of Flip Flip, MOTHERFUCKER (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Drew, the collar is always already flipped.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

What if it's worn with a white belt?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Ironic engagements should be cut short before they lead to marriage.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I wear it with a bandolier.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i like to cross things up by flipping and then adding a bolo. that really fucks with people, they're always like "wait, is that guy a fratboy rapist or an oil baron -- which is it?!" and that's my cue to make fun of erasure while i shoot at the ground.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

that is quite an image

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm seeing this all the time now, and it fills me with huge contempt (more so than usual, that is). Simply put, if you do this -- YOU, SIR, ARE A FLAGRANT JACKASS!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

thank god alex is here to save us from making flagrant character judgements based on miniscule fashion details!

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

At your service.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

the devil's in the details

― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

But the demons are BEHIND THE UPTURNED COLLAR!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

everyone who's bought a dave matthews cd today has sported this look

...has been the most compelling case made by any member of the anti-flipsquad brigade so far.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Fucking hell Under the Table... is HOTTT!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

TAKE THESE CHANCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

http://goodgrief.typepad.com/goodgrief/images/man_in_pink_shirt_flipped_collar_cropped.jpg

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

However, I can't really wear a t-shirt by itself, it feels strange to me to be collar-less.

holy shit, me too!

also, pink rules.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

It takes real panache to pull off the big-red-circle-with-a-slash-through-it look.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

hey i do this and im not gay nor in a frat.

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

British fashion is backwards though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

E.g., dudes wear skirts, young people wear sock-garters, etc.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

hey i do this and im not gay nor in a frat.

But you DO use the word "nor" correctly! STONE HIM!

― The Ghost of Haha Sigh (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

my least favorite fashion look is the ugly, long-sleeved patterned shirt w/faded jeans look. usually worn by beefy bros who are out nightclubbing in hollywood

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://feelgroovy.idv8.com/goodies/fgwall-bros.jpg

― The Ghost of I Can't Answer That (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

tough to pull this off with real polo/lacoste shirts cuz the collars are floppy and don't stay up, i can respect that

bros-post

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

this has nothing to do with old men and gay guys. i love old men and gay guys.

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

SITCOM

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like polo shirts, they are kinda high school.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

tough to pull this off with real polo/lacoste shirts cuz the collars are floppy and don't stay up, i can respect that

OTM

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

in britain this means two things to me: "chavs" ie kids hanging out with trackie bottoms and ellesse polos, or coversely, upper midle class hooray kids who go sailing etc. and play rugby. leeds uni is stuffed full of them. (and they all say "uni" ulp)

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Tough to pull this off with real Lacoste shirts because they inexplicably cost $80.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

there was a guy charging $100 cdn for them at the big street sale here last summer, and he only had two on display – if you wanted a different size or colour he had a runner who would go and fetch them from an undisclosed location. sketchy!! and they were selling like hotcakes anyway.

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Lacoste of living.

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

real lacostes are $90 apiece in canada. i don't think i've even seen a more bootlegged brand of clothing.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Flipping the collar up just seems strange. (I wear shirts with collars about, oh, ten times a year maybe.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i almost bought lacoste shoes the other day.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

im surprised it's taken ilx this long to complain about this. it's been annoying me for at least a year now.

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

penguin shirts = teh best

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i want some lecoq shoes so bad

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a Penguin shirt that Sarah got me a year or so ago for my birthday or something, and I wore to see my friends' band the other night, and I was talking to her and her coworker, and I was saying that I wouldn't normally buy a Penguin shirt for myself because I have trouble spending money on clothes and the coworker blurts out "...AND BECAUSE THEY COST $70!" I was like "I don't think it cost $70" but he said "THEY COST $70." Penguin shirts don't cost $70, do they? It's just like a short-sleeved polo shirt. What an ass.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

eyes on the cost

― ralph lifschsitz, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

ditto on the penguin shirts, i have way too many.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't even know this place anymore

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

hahahaha old navy.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

some of us do not attempt to dress beyond our station

― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

In order to dress beyond my station, I'd have to wear ermine-lined cloaks and carry around a royal sceptre (and I do not mean my cock for a change).

― The Ghost of Big Pulsating Ego (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

my dad has penguin shirts, so no way do they cost 70

― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

In order to dress beyond my station, I'd have to wear ermine-lined cloaks and carry around a royal sceptre (and I do not mean my cock for a change).

Ermine-lined cocksocks.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

i wear shirts from the thrift store. old navy's too pricey for my blood.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

(Actually an ermine-lined cocksock sounds nice.)

― The Ghost of Warm AND Luxurious! (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

no thriftstore has capri pants of this quality

― strng hlkgntn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i think this can look pretty good.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, thrift stores are great places to find Izod shirts. Those things don't wear out.

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

this is like an epidemic around my neighborhood, I'm seeing it everywhere. and not just w/ preppies, but lame-o-indies too...all sorts of uncouth hipsters. it's terrible.

― Vichitravirya XI (steph jam), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd love to see the pro-flip "appropriating the working class" arguments now.

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

the best is seeing the underside of the collar have a deep clean color and the rest of the shirt is all faded. way to paw thru the racks, dude.

― g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway, i might turn up the collar on my jean jacket, but never a shirt. i mean, jesus.

― g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

VIC
GET
OUT
L.A. IS KURTZED

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

according to this frickin idiot this sort of trendy hip hop clothjing and urban wear costs 49$

ive started wearing polo shirts becasue for some reason i decidd that round necks of t shirts look a bit weird, but i will never puit the collar up

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Stephen J. Cannell to thread.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Flip that collar up: Prepsters rule at school!!!!!!

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA!

It's not exactly back to the days of poodle skirts, penny loafers and varsity jackets. Rather, the retro look is freshened with a touch of hip-hop.

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still holding out for the Benetton rugby shirt revival.

― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish rugby shirts were a better shape

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

are there any companies that make decent-looking clothes without stupid little logos on them? please?

― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

The pink polo shirt flipped up is incredibly overbearing in Melbourne at the moment. Not annoying in itself, but definitely in its preponderance. I remember seeing a guy at a dance party about 4 years ago sporting a flipped-up black polo shirt and I fell in love with him immediately, not sure why, it seemed debonair though. The Best Looking & Dressed Guy In The World (wot I saw at Le Pulp in Paris) also sported this look, plus a lovely faded teal v-neck jumper and a red canvas belt. See also Jake Gylenhaal on the cover of Vanity Fair - avant-preppie or something (okay not really avant just preppie)

But yeah, back to the current totalitarian surplus: as a gay man with a genetic affinity for pink, I have issues with macho guys sporting this look. The problem with metrosexualism is not its widespread dominance but its widespread superficial dominance which does little to change the underlying behaviour and attitudes of most of those over whom it holds sway. (for Melbourne readers, I always think of these guys as metaphorically standing on the corner of Chapel St and Commercial Rd)

The really galling thing is that there is now an assumption that, even if you're gay, wearing pink or flipping up the collar is a prima facie metrosexual manoeuvre.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha my god, Tim, I was about to wonder aloud if this fad had missed Melbourne, cos I can't even visualise it! Polo shirts yeah sure but this turned up collar biz sounds menko.

I always loathed polo shirts on anyone no matter how they're worn - they screech I AM THE SNOBBY RICH PRICK FROM A JOHN HUGHES FILM really loud.

Esp with the whole white slacks and/or jumper casually tossed over the shoulders and sleeves tied in a knot at the front look. Blech.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps I still entertain fantasies of being chosen by the snobby rich prick.

Geeta confirmed for me that my taste in men was hopelessly preppy.

"Esp with the whole white slacks and/or jumper casually tossed over the shoulders and sleeves tied in a knot at the front look. Blech."

Oh but this is a slightly different look Trayce - I'm guessing yr thinking the ralph lauren polo shirts and boat shoes "private school kids at barbecues on Sorrento beach" look.

The current pink polo shirt with collar turned up look is more of a preppy/urban/eurotrash 3-way, and is directly connected to the distressed jeans phenomenon. It's about a wholehearted commitment to following the dictates in fashion trends to the point of counter-intuitiveness (the point of this specific look for example may just be that from an outside perspective it sends all sorts of mixed messages). Whereas the Sorrento Beach look strikes me as being about wealth and refinement transcending fashion - it's an appeal to the timelessness of good, respectable labels and styles etc.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah all the cool kids at my law school are wearing this look, i hate it. polo shirts in pastel colours (dominated by but not limited to salmon) with the collar turned up, distressed jeans, haviana thongs and a towelling cuff halfway up their arm. and a fauxhawk. blech. it's most unattractive.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Ohh ok, I see, now I can sort of picture the thing.

Dare I suggest these are the same guys on Commercial rd who would have been sporting the Beckham fauxhawk 18 months ago? =)

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha I didnt even read gems' post before I wrote that argh.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't get the point of the towelling cuff thingy. i know most fashion fads are a tad pointless, but that one seems particularly so.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I have two of these shirts that were given to me, but COLLAR STAYS DOWN when I wear them.

― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link

'that were given to me'

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I should come back to Melbourne to insult these horrid people.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

but they WERE!

― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

sure sure

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

given to him by the sales assistant, after he 'gave' them money

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw a towelling cuff WATCH in a clothes store in SOuthgate y'day. I was sore afraid.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I should come back to Melbourne to insult these horrid people.

Do, Ned! We shall honour the fire and push them all into the Yarra.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

towelling cuff? fauxhawk?
fucks sake, what next, parachute pleats?

― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

was there parachute pleats on last week's OC episode? if so then yes

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

What is this polo shirt hate? They're fantastic; I was so happy to find out they'd come back into fashion (along with army print/combats, unless this is a japan-only thing?). Am even wearing one today! I will turn up my collar to spite you all, bitcheczzzz.

TOWELLING CUFFS OMG I need one.

― in my heart of hearts I am a preppy boy (cis), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"Dare I suggest these are the same guys on Commercial rd who would have been sporting the Beckham fauxhawk 18 months ago? =)"

No they never actually stray onto Commercial Rd unless maybe going to Commercial Lounge. It's all about the corner.

By fauxhawk do you mean the mull-hawk? (though I prefer "moulet" with an accent over the e). They're still sporting those I think, although strictly speaking the pink polo shirt look is for those who don't quite have the courage to mess up their hair. The fauxhawk/moulet crowd tend to wear one-off boutique designer t-shirts (looking like a Munch knock-off maybe) with pin-striped blazers sporting some strange imprinted illustration on one side like an insignia.

x-post Seth is an indie boy / metrosexual cross (fashion equivalent of a schnoodle maybe) I think. I love him either because of it or inspite of it, I'm not sure which. Ryan bravely rejects the entire metrosexual crusade.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay.
I just walked home from the Egyptian Theatre.
Out of all the dashing young men there, who was the most prominent, the one most explicitly displaying an aura of nonchalant pulchritude?
ARE YOU GUESSING THE ONE WITH THE PINK POLO SHIRT WITH THE COLLAR UPTURNED? If so, you win.

You guys think I'm joking or being facetious with my venting, don't you? See....even my _pink_ point has been proven true as expressed on the spencer-chowite/ how do non-drinkers get laid thread. He was with a beautiful female, whose fag-hag status is unknown. Aside from what Tim states about it, can I just emphasize here that no one knows anything in these damned days of metrosexuality...AND IT'S FUCKING FRUSTRATING WHEN QUEERS CAN'T IDENTIFY THEIR OWN ANYMORE...

How are we supposed to flirt with you when you're intoxicated and make subtle innuendo jokes if we aren't even sure you're straight, Oh Men of Avowed Heterosexuality?! Stop it, hipsters!

― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link

More concerningly, "light metrosexualism" has penetrated the community so pervasively that you can get guys with pretty homophobic attitudes appearing quite gay-leaning - which makes flirting all the more fraught...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link

fag-hag and/pr "date" status, I mean. Naturally.

And yes...I miss the ha thrilling days of being able to dress identifiably gay and being excited when going to a non-gay designated area / straight setting, and having your heart beat faster / getting all excited when some non-identiifiably gay man started giving you subtle hints and signals like oh say...KISSING YOUR HAND and such. A certain Ilxor would know what I mean here...

...even though ahem - I- personally never lived such thrilling days as I never had gay-identified clothing and have only experienced this vicariously - except for those twice or thrice thrilling times - thru soft-core "erotic stories" ETC

― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe now we're really talking about gay guys fetishing straight guys and their dorky fashions.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't let me change the topic, as "fetishing straight guys" is a good one that totally deserves its own thread...but I'd feel weird starting it, as it seems it should only exist in some Queer Alternative-ILX that straight people primarily lurk at and post little to, or something. Not here!!

I'm going out again, and will count up the number of upturned collars I see and report back here. Also pink shirts, and any cominations. I will also likely run into Spencer Chow, so we have a good chance of me at least finding something.

― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link

don't forget to keep an eye out for those towelling cuffs as well

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:55 (eighteen years ago) link

otm with the Lacoste comment upthread, the only polo shirts I own these days are Lacoste and collar popping is impossible with both.

this was an English public school trend about six years ago anyway surely? I don't think anyone's stopped. Its attractiveness is dependent on what kind of t-shirt it is and what you look like.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:17 (eighteen years ago) link

it still is an english public school trend!

(i have just noticed that one of my poshboy mates is has his collar up AS WE SPEAK. well, type.)

― spontine (cis), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess this is one of those things where, if you're already incredibly cute, you can get away with doing this, and if you're not, you can't. Life is unfair.

I am wearing a Lacoste knit shirt, and it's got yellow and orange stripes and, I think, looks good. But I cannot pull off flipping the collar. It just doesn't work on me. It makes me feel like I'm trying to get into a bar with a fake ID or something. I guess I lack a certain unselfconscious rakish devil-may-care laddish attitude.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link

"I guess this is one of those things where, if you're already incredibly cute, you can get away with doing this, and if you're not, you can't. Life is unfair."

Ha Ha OTM. Cute guys look even cuter when they make fashion moves that only they can get away with.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Rondell White knows where it's at: (check the arm)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/rondell_cuff.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link

That was actually something about half the major-leaguers rocked on May 8, for breast-cancer awareness. I didn't know what was going on at first, though. I thought that a pink wrist-band craze had just spontaneously swept baseball.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link

ok so at least those cuffs had a purpose. what about everyone else that sports one though? why why why?

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Baseball players are not the only ones who sweat.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link

dude no one breaks into a sweat in the law library. maybe on their brow when someone accidentally knocks their laptop cord out of the powerpoint. but the towelling cuff wouldn't help that.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link

are there any companies that make decent-looking clothes without stupid little logos on them? please?

uniqlo (except that front page makes it look awful!)

and inevitably, hennes and mauritz

as for the preppy look, well, i have been trying to buy cotton v neck jumpers for about 8 years now and am relieved that they are now around in numbers, i just wish i could have bought them when i was at school. there was no mention of them being "preppy" in the uk (maybe there isnt now), they were apparently just deeply unfashionable. but i loe them! i think this preppy look is pretty cool. it seems that peoples ire is mainly directed towards (if this isnt too unkind) YOUNG (RICH?) CONFIDENT people looking GOOD in clothes, rather than the trend itself.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link

ok i think maybe im just projecting my own resentment onto the rest of ILX. i sort of feel scorn for carefully made up looking kids with all this preppy attire, but i think im more jealous of them than actually thinking their clothes are stupid. although i dont really think the popped collar thing is cool at all. which is the whole point of this thread so, duh.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

so wait, that pink polo i picked up at the thrift store like 4 yrs ago is now back in fashion? Can I casually wear it to the movies or only in more fashionable locales? I am fashion disabled and my wife's advice is untrustworthy because she likes to giggle at me in public.

I just bought it cuz it was le tigre.

How about the red OP one with the swath of white/black/green/orange/yellow across the top? Is that ok?

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Ive got sh1t loads of polos, but my favourite ones are the navy and white ones from tescos which i think cost £3-4.
The cotton is soft and they come through the wash still lookin gr8.
I often wear them to work.
btw search the penguin lamsbwool vnecks.
Will

― willdabeast, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

ambrose - thanks, i may look into that h&m thing as there is one nearby. there's also supposed to be one of these opening in my area soon

― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I read that too fast and thought it said "there's also supposed to be one of these opening in my arse soon."

― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

ambrose, where are you buying your cotton v. neck jumpers?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

are there any companies that make decent-looking clothes without stupid little logos on them? please?

HAHA AMERICAN APPAREL DISCUSSION...NOT TO THREAD

― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a whole bunch of polo shirts (including a couple of Lacostes) and I put the collar up on all of them.

But I can get away with this 'cos I'm British, gorgeous and superfly.

― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Do, Ned! We shall honour the fire and push them all into the Yarra.

Yay! I wanna see the Yarra Valley and all that so bad. What a wunnerful city. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you get bonus points & more lovin' if you rock the upturned collar w/ your dad's Members Only jacket?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

cozen: h & m got a decent lot in different colours a few months ago, at least. might have been in the winter seasons stuff. he trick is to pick up lots when they appear (i bought 6 in a relatively short period of time), before they change the bloody styles and forget them. v neck cotton jumpers should be a basic item, clothes shop people!

uniqlo also had some a while back but werent very fine. check h&m i think. they might have ditched them for summer, idiots :(

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

funny, i nearly did a thread on this the other day. i almost got in a fight with a real arrogant public-school, city-working arsehole the other day. he shoved past me on a tube station escalator and nearly sent me flying, so i grabbed hold of his foot and tripped him up. he was wearing a pink ralph lauren rugby sweater with the collar flipped.
it's very much the preserve of privately educated young achievers, often with floppy hair, here and i hate it too.

― stelfox, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

You can see me every week hanging out with a different girl sitting next to me cause I'm not about to settle down right now I gotta be free some of y'all fellas might be jealous but y'all know that don't faze me I just pop my collar tip my hat and turn my backs on the ones who hated me.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll get on h&m, ta ambrose.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

also, tip: united colors of benetton normally do a good range in cotton v. neck jumpers as standard. tho warning they do shrink quite a lot on first wash so probably buy a size above.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

so i grabbed hold of his foot and tripped him up. he was wearing a pink ralph lauren rugby sweater with the collar flipped.

so you actually bent down and grabbed his foot? sounds quite impressive.

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

he said escalator, ruth.

― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ive just decided that my personal people-who-wear-the-collars-of-their-polo-shirts-flipped-up equivalent are people-who-use-the-word-'diaspora'-in-everyday-conversation

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

he said escalator, ruth.

cor, what if the guy had fallen backwards causing everyone else behind him on the escalator to fall backwards...

― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

PREPPIE DOMINOES

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Popped-collar-stalker note: I just got back from the San Francisco Art Institute where an awfully handsome young (18) man sauntered into Pete's Café with, yep, collar turned up. Cute as a button, rockin' the collar.

― Dr3w Dan1el (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

http://69.44.62.237/~jay/rps/18.jpg

I'm sayin' bro!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 May 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

can a woman be a DANDY?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 May 2005 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

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