― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
mr teeny: "that's when you know you're old."me: "when you see someone younger than you wearing something you wore in junior high?"mr teeny: "Yeah."
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― nathalie in a bar under the sea (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
For the record, my collar flippery happened well before DMB was teh shit. It, however, did coincide w/ my attempt to grow a mullet and rock the paisley button-down shirt. I still don't know how I survived high school.
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
P!O!P!
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.esprit-online-shop.com/Shop/PicDestStyleOver_List_Cross/F44P70_401.jpg
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― chav menko, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I knew it! Flipping the collar up seemed sort of Spencer Chow.
I'm with Julia -- I don't encounter anyone wearing polo shirts, let alone with the collar flipped up. So I don't really have an opinion on it, I haven't seen enough it to care about it.
― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― ath (ath), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of I'M FIFTY! (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't usually flip!
However, I can't really wear a t-shirt by itself, it feels strange to me to be collar-less.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Flip Flip, MOTHERFUCKER (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
...has been the most compelling case made by any member of the anti-flipsquad brigade so far.
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link
http://goodgrief.typepad.com/goodgrief/images/man_in_pink_shirt_flipped_collar_cropped.jpg
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
holy shit, me too!
also, pink rules.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link
But you DO use the word "nor" correctly! STONE HIM!
― The Ghost of Haha Sigh (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of I Can't Answer That (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link
bros-post
― jones (actual), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link
OTM
― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― ralph lifschsitz, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Big Pulsating Ego (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Ermine-lined cocksocks.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Warm AND Luxurious! (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkgntn, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vichitravirya XI (steph jam), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
ive started wearing polo shirts becasue for some reason i decidd that round necks of t shirts look a bit weird, but i will never puit the collar up
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
It's not exactly back to the days of poodle skirts, penny loafers and varsity jackets. Rather, the retro look is freshened with a touch of hip-hop.
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― jones (actual), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
But yeah, back to the current totalitarian surplus: as a gay man with a genetic affinity for pink, I have issues with macho guys sporting this look. The problem with metrosexualism is not its widespread dominance but its widespread superficial dominance which does little to change the underlying behaviour and attitudes of most of those over whom it holds sway. (for Melbourne readers, I always think of these guys as metaphorically standing on the corner of Chapel St and Commercial Rd)
The really galling thing is that there is now an assumption that, even if you're gay, wearing pink or flipping up the collar is a prima facie metrosexual manoeuvre.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I always loathed polo shirts on anyone no matter how they're worn - they screech I AM THE SNOBBY RICH PRICK FROM A JOHN HUGHES FILM really loud.
Esp with the whole white slacks and/or jumper casually tossed over the shoulders and sleeves tied in a knot at the front look. Blech.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Geeta confirmed for me that my taste in men was hopelessly preppy.
"Esp with the whole white slacks and/or jumper casually tossed over the shoulders and sleeves tied in a knot at the front look. Blech."
Oh but this is a slightly different look Trayce - I'm guessing yr thinking the ralph lauren polo shirts and boat shoes "private school kids at barbecues on Sorrento beach" look.
The current pink polo shirt with collar turned up look is more of a preppy/urban/eurotrash 3-way, and is directly connected to the distressed jeans phenomenon. It's about a wholehearted commitment to following the dictates in fashion trends to the point of counter-intuitiveness (the point of this specific look for example may just be that from an outside perspective it sends all sorts of mixed messages). Whereas the Sorrento Beach look strikes me as being about wealth and refinement transcending fashion - it's an appeal to the timelessness of good, respectable labels and styles etc.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Dare I suggest these are the same guys on Commercial rd who would have been sporting the Beckham fauxhawk 18 months ago? =)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Do, Ned! We shall honour the fire and push them all into the Yarra.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link
TOWELLING CUFFS OMG I need one.
― in my heart of hearts I am a preppy boy (cis), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link
No they never actually stray onto Commercial Rd unless maybe going to Commercial Lounge. It's all about the corner.
By fauxhawk do you mean the mull-hawk? (though I prefer "moulet" with an accent over the e). They're still sporting those I think, although strictly speaking the pink polo shirt look is for those who don't quite have the courage to mess up their hair. The fauxhawk/moulet crowd tend to wear one-off boutique designer t-shirts (looking like a Munch knock-off maybe) with pin-striped blazers sporting some strange imprinted illustration on one side like an insignia.
x-post Seth is an indie boy / metrosexual cross (fashion equivalent of a schnoodle maybe) I think. I love him either because of it or inspite of it, I'm not sure which. Ryan bravely rejects the entire metrosexual crusade.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Okay.
I just walked home from the Egyptian Theatre.
Out of all the dashing young men there, who was the most prominent, the one most explicitly displaying an aura of nonchalant pulchritude?
ARE YOU GUESSING THE ONE WITH THE PINK POLO SHIRT WITH THE COLLAR UPTURNED? If so, you win.
You guys think I'm joking or being facetious with my venting, don't you? See....even my _pink_ point has been proven true as expressed on the spencer-chowite/ how do non-drinkers get laid thread. He was with a beautiful female, whose fag-hag status is unknown. Aside from what Tim states about it, can I just emphasize here that no one knows anything in these damned days of metrosexuality...AND IT'S FUCKING FRUSTRATING WHEN QUEERS CAN'T IDENTIFY THEIR OWN ANYMORE...
How are we supposed to flirt with you when you're intoxicated and make subtle innuendo jokes if we aren't even sure you're straight, Oh Men of Avowed Heterosexuality?! Stop it, hipsters!
― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link
And yes...I miss the ha thrilling days of being able to dress identifiably gay and being excited when going to a non-gay designated area / straight setting, and having your heart beat faster / getting all excited when some non-identiifiably gay man started giving you subtle hints and signals like oh say...KISSING YOUR HAND and such. A certain Ilxor would know what I mean here...
...even though ahem - I- personally never lived such thrilling days as I never had gay-identified clothing and have only experienced this vicariously - except for those twice or thrice thrilling times - thru soft-core "erotic stories" ETC
― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm going out again, and will count up the number of upturned collars I see and report back here. Also pink shirts, and any cominations. I will also likely run into Spencer Chow, so we have a good chance of me at least finding something.
― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:55 (eighteen years ago) link
this was an English public school trend about six years ago anyway surely? I don't think anyone's stopped. Its attractiveness is dependent on what kind of t-shirt it is and what you look like.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:17 (eighteen years ago) link
(i have just noticed that one of my poshboy mates is has his collar up AS WE SPEAK. well, type.)
― spontine (cis), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:33 (eighteen years ago) link
I am wearing a Lacoste knit shirt, and it's got yellow and orange stripes and, I think, looks good. But I cannot pull off flipping the collar. It just doesn't work on me. It makes me feel like I'm trying to get into a bar with a fake ID or something. I guess I lack a certain unselfconscious rakish devil-may-care laddish attitude.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Ha Ha OTM. Cute guys look even cuter when they make fashion moves that only they can get away with.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/rondell_cuff.jpg
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link
uniqlo (except that front page makes it look awful!)
and inevitably, hennes and mauritz
as for the preppy look, well, i have been trying to buy cotton v neck jumpers for about 8 years now and am relieved that they are now around in numbers, i just wish i could have bought them when i was at school. there was no mention of them being "preppy" in the uk (maybe there isnt now), they were apparently just deeply unfashionable. but i loe them! i think this preppy look is pretty cool. it seems that peoples ire is mainly directed towards (if this isnt too unkind) YOUNG (RICH?) CONFIDENT people looking GOOD in clothes, rather than the trend itself.
― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I just bought it cuz it was le tigre.
How about the red OP one with the swath of white/black/green/orange/yellow across the top? Is that ok?
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― willdabeast, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
HAHA AMERICAN APPAREL DISCUSSION...NOT TO THREAD
― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link
But I can get away with this 'cos I'm British, gorgeous and superfly.
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Yay! I wanna see the Yarra Valley and all that so bad. What a wunnerful city. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
uniqlo also had some a while back but werent very fine. check h&m i think. they might have ditched them for summer, idiots :(
― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― stelfox, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
so you actually bent down and grabbed his foot? sounds quite impressive.
― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― diedre mousedropping and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
cor, what if the guy had fallen backwards causing everyone else behind him on the escalator to fall backwards...
― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr3w Dan1el (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm sayin' bro!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 May 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 12 May 2005 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link