― whatever (nordicskilla), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't listen to the crazy man, Alex--keep enjoying your liquid gold. IT TASTES LIKE ANGELS.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― bro dudely (deangulberry), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Jocelyn, you are my new girlfriend now.
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Pint glass + ice + scotch = :)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
offputting. scotch rules in my house. even cheap scotch. bring on the highland mist. bring it on, clan mcgregor. bring me the j.r. dial's.
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
offputting.scotch rules in my house. even cheap scotch. bring on the highland mist. bring it on, clan mcgregor. bring me the j.r. dial's. a couple of fingers over roxx.
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― ()ops (()()ps), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Austin S (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Austin Swinburn (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link
whisk(e)y+water+twist of lemon = best iced tea ever i really want to try this right now at 9 in the morning.
― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bad Day At Dadrock (Dada), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link
And you should! I follow my grandpa's rule: bourbon and steak require no adornment (save ice or salt/pepper). I'd guess that the smokey flavor of scotch doesn't mix well with anything. Rum & ginger ale, however, is a different story.
maker's mark, my favorite, spells it whisky.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Whiskey = everything else
― Bad Day At Dadrock (Dada), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I was seconded to Seagrams and worked at the strathisla distillery for a while, it was fun, and got me into whisky. I couldn't stand the stuff before, but one friday going back to Glasgow on the train, a train in front had hit a cow, so we were stuck and the drinks trolley was out of free drinks by the time it reached us. So my friend got out the minatures she'd brought back for her family, and we had ourselves a wee tasting session to while away the time.
I love whisky macs, but would never use anything other than a blend, and I wouldn't touch blended for any other purpose.
I once spent £37 on a bottle - cask strength from Cambletown. Still got some, it's amazing. Tastes of the sea and smoke.
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link
i agree 100%.
drinking hot Scotch in the winter = awesome. this is really tasty and gets into your sinuses.
i guess there's a folk/traditional remedy for colds of mixing scotch with hot water and honey. i tried it on a sore throat and it worked wonders. just the whiskey is good, but the honey gives it a little extra.
― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bad Day At Dadrock (Dada), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
J4ck D4niels, however, have me on their marketing mailing list. I have JD mousemat that I use at home, and as of this weekend I have a tiny but weighty metal replica bottle keyring.
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post whiskey is the spelling for irish and american and whatever else, but scotch should never be spelt that way. In fact, I think legally no-one else but the Scots can label it whisky. i seem to remember some furore over the Japanese claiming to sell 'whisky'
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bad Day At Dadrock (Dada), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― nickalicious is from Kentucky, where the horses run fast and the bourbon is yumm, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rotgutt (Rotgutt), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Penis, NV (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― youn, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Ewwww. I'm having some Talisker with a few drops of Drambuie on it tonight, as dinner. heh. I've had a cold for a few days, and this will hopefully knock some of it out of me.
― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Trying to be vodka, yes indeed.
― Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link
clearly intended not to compete w/flavor of soda/mixers?
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link
There was an article in Saturday's Wall Street Journal about "controversial" new products being introduced by Scotch distilleries, but they didn't even mention this abomination. The most controversial was Bruichladdich introducing a blend of three vintages in one bottle.
From your reports I guess the UK launch this past summer did not make a huge splash.
― Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
what up what up what uuuuuuuup
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmm
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
probably too hot to even consider this, but rocks approach might
maybe
might have gin in the freezer
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
rox would be good
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i know for a fact that i have gin and vodka in the freezer!
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
omg i don't know that for a fact and it's making me upset
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
as a medical doctor, it seems that you endorse the cooling factors of freezered gin. good man! xpost
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
guys the answer is yes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
also have terrifying premade margaritas in the fridge, BUT IN THE CASE OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY
this is going to be a good thread, i can feel it
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Having a flask bottle in the hip pocket feels suspiciously like I imagine a shoulder holster feels.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Also makes me imagine tats of Jack Daniels under the heart lol
once i took a pink alligator flask to a bar, and the guy checked my bag. and he was like, you have to leave this outside
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Also--yall: all yall:: it is too hot for whiskey and that is why I am going to sit on my porch and sip whiskey and sweat in the humid ass texas night. Because tonight is that night.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
The night to do just that
i have to finish this beer, but afterwards i will rejoin you all with some sort of cold hard liquor beverage
xpost hmmm i am considering your argument and finding it fairly compelling (with state replacement of course)
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't have any whiskey. and it is 1 hour and 43 too late to buy any.
But i do have gin and I've been having 2 about to be 3 martinis.
― james k polk, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i guess we shouldn't be complaining, it's not like we live in TEJAS
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link
And this part of Texas had its first pleasant afternoon rain shower of the month a few hours ago. All is well.
― james k polk, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm GOING TO THE KITCHEN NOW
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i do not have whiskey per se but i do have scotch
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
BULLEIT
― peace (jergins), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I ENVY U SIR
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I
ENVY
U
the jameson flask was $9.60 but i only had $8.53
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link
oh bulleit most iconic bottle i love u
― peace (jergins), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link
this ice pack has melted
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link
time for a beer and then bedtimes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:48 AM (2 minutes ago
^^^ country song waiting to be written tbh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
ok so choose for me ILX between Oban and "The Antiquary" scotch options
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
THE LATTER
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link
WITH A MONOCLE
also in play - Black Label (beer), gin and tonics (although specify Hendricks or Gordons) and El Jimador tequila.
xpost haaaa
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i have no monocle
also in the awesome state of my liquor cabinet, it appears that i have a bottle of makers mark shoved behind all the other stuff, so my shameful whiskeylessness has been greatly exaggerated
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
dude you have like, everything
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
VITUAL TOUR OF MY SOON TO BE CONSUMED PRETEND MONOCLE DRANK
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link
dude, G&T
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:58 (fourteen years ago) link
no g&t. ur better than thatha xpost
― peace (jergins), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link
guys i'm peacin
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link
WHISKEY
YEAH
,3
ICE PACK
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ON MY HEAD
what's wrong???
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
it is a billion degrees
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
ohhh :/
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
ok went with power cooling beer drink, but going to follow it with SCAAAAAAATTTCH with like shitloads of rocks
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
SHITLOADS
all of them
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link
all of the rocks, that you have
oh god poor henry, he must be dying
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
my hound is lying on the kitchen floor giving me the baleful "why dude why?" look about this heat problem.
hahaha xpost
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
he should really take up a powerful drinking habit
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i can't even imagine the injustice of hanging around being a happy puppy and then someone flips the summer switch and its like sorry bro you have the worst design in the world for being comfortable right now
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i think that the henry and i might spend tomorrow hanging out in the basement listening to rekkerds
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
that is a good idea
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
very good!
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Guys, I have a problem: the liquor store near my house had a less than stellar bourbon selection and I ended up with elijah craig :(
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i would go for this idea right now but henry is still in that early puppy stage where new and exciting = lose control of bodily functions xpost
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
hey is it a billion degrees in seattle right now no i didn't think so stfu
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"omg rock and roll ~~shits on the floor~~"
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link
elijah craig, i don't even know what that is!!
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey you were not mean to jergins with his fancyman whiskey :(Xpost
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i just poured a drop of glen moray
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Did I tell you guys baout the time I ordered some stagg and the bartender AND the guy next to me be like dammmmmnnnnn! I loled.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link
oh hey i have the scotch on the rocks now
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Cheers to you, friend.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link
OH AND CHEERS TO YOU!
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i just spent about 15 minutes trying to get a picture of henry + me + scotch where it didnt look like i was abusing the dog by feeding him scotch, but lil dude is kind of fixated on the sound of clinking ice, so i failed
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link
he did not, however, succeed in any scotch interaction other than the point where he head butted me and i spilled scotch on his back (and wiped it off like a good dog owner. btw)
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2436/3653209844_64066b8218_o.jpg
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link
best i got
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link
SHUTUP that's too good
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link
he is a happy fellow
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
he so handsome!
― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
he is the best puppy ever
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Aw, he has your eyes.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link
he has a thread full of glamour shots right here, if you haven't seen it: THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE THREAD WHERE I INTRODUCE YOU ALL TO MY EXCELLENT NEW PUPPY HENRY xpost
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:50 (fourteen years ago) link
ok but enough about awesome puppy (who i have been calling "chubbles" for about a week despite the whole "MAKE THEN KNWO THERE NAME" thing)
this scotch is kind of great
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link
scotch on rocks = the fancy man cooldown
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:52 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha also tbf those caps lock spelling errors two posts up = 1/2 fast typing excitement and 1/2 scotch
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Having a meet with elijah but I just don't know
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
he has a nice biblical name give him a chance
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Reminds me of a poor man's woodford, which is also not a favorite.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link
ooof
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i still hold up the lighter flame for jim beam when it comes to utility whiskey. its pretty good!
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
elijah craig ain't so bad.
― ian, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah no I think beam is a better value for what it is etc
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man it is so hot here that my rocks just became branch water in the course of one drink ;_;
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link
just means you're drinking too slow.
― ian, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
fair
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Ian knows what's up. <3 u, boo.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
when i wanna get good and fucked, it's johnny walker blackif it's not serious, jack and coke.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man years of doing sound in shitty bars have made me hate jack and cokes, rum and cokes, and jag shots more than anything in the world
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
~~~barf~~~
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i do not blame Jack Daniels, Captain Fred Morgan, or Mr. Franz Jaegermeister for this on a personal level. xpost
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link
if you want to be fucked with a hangover int he morning then by all means drink your sugar drinks w/booze
but margaritas tho
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah but
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
every asiann person i've known that loves johnny walker, i love him/her
― peace (jergins), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I have adapted to drinking margaritas without sugar
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
At home at least. Tequila and a good lime is really all you need.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
which to defeat my own statement should not be "sugary" per se so never mind MILLION XPOSTS
still i assume that in even good sour laden margaritas there must be a pile of sugar in there.
xpost the dude i know that is liquor distribution rep gave me a bottle of johnnie walker black last year when i went into a shop where he was working to buy booze for my birthday.
he is perhaps (due to this) the greatest dude ever.
not asian.
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
so since this is basically the non-specific booze drinking thread at this point - as a long standing fan of sauza tres generaciones tequila (prob like a billion spelling errors there), i have to admit that i got a bottle of herradura respado and it was AWESOME
― BLEAT THE MEATLES. PARADE. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link
My bff from high school's dad owns a liquor store (this happened after we graduated sadly) and all I got was a giant bottle of Bailey's :(
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't mind asking for a glass of water with every drink and i don't care if anyone thinks i'm a lightweight; long as I keep the ratio right, I stay upright.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link
dude glass of water per drink is the pro way AFAIK. also, the occasional cup of coffee = total pro tip.
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:38 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah nothing lightweight about that at all
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
been drinking this over the past week. really good stuff.
http://www.freewebs.com/macleod-eh/redbreast3_gr.jpg
xp and water back is fine and i've never gotten a weird look for ordering it.
― mr. me too (rockapads), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link
lightweight = "I CAN DRINK YOU ALL WATER DRINKING LADY MEN UNDER THE oh no i feel like i might be BLAAAARRRRGGHHH" in my experience
xpost ok that looks interesting
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link
the coffee thing is bullshit, it always makes me think of that scene in stagecoach "BLACKER, STRONGER!"
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link
there's no "cancelling out" or anything going on there, folks
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
A water back is the way to go. A beer back is only going to make you pee extra -- a water back is pure stuff that you're going to be lacking soon. Plus it doesn't mix flavors in your mouth. I'd say that ordering a water back means you're serious about what you're drinking.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
coffee = more awake
whiskey = more drunk
this seems like a simple equation for happiness AFAIK xpost
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Or at least serious about drinking a whole lot of it.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link
never been clear on the "Drink you under the table" he-man threat; is it meant to say "I can take more poison in my body than you can, due to my vast and worldly experience"? A randy acnescarred teenager can drink me under the table if I haven't eaten in the past twenty hours and I'm sufficiently absent-minded, but I suppose I've done more idiotic power drinking than Pizzaface Strawman.Besides, guys falling out is NOT fun when you're out drinking; it tends to be more of a "say, I'm still doing this. what a goose am i" heads up. I like to drink with people who get stodgier, funnier and less confrontational not vice versa.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
oh and to fill out the lineup
water = more not dead by dehydration
which is pretty much always cool
um xposts
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Less confrontational is too much to hope for
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i will say that the major "o no i got old" sign I'm seeing when I drink these days is not a headache, but serious sore throats. Apparently, I'm drying out my sinuses with this hyar rotgut?
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Zzzzzz
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link
If you're dehydrated, you're drying out every goddamn thing.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link
s'pose so.
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link
this weird scotch i found at the local hole in the wall liquor barn - PRETTY AWESOME
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link
my "find the dustiest bottle of liquor because they probably have never repriced it" local market strategy is working.
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link
sounds awesome
i really like the idea of pint of beer + shot of whiskey but haven't really found a good combo yet
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
water is always good for all consumption activities
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link
a wise man once told me that any time someone offers you water, you should take it
― meh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I like that. If someone is offering water, specifically water, either a) they are out of other beverages, in which case it would be rude not to take the only thing they've got, or b) you look like a person who needs a glass of water. And if you look like that, you probably do.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link
finished the bottle
yelled along with tunes in the car
listening to super dramatic post rock now
lolololol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 10:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Here, have some water.
And also this Ramones CD.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ty
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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i have learned mylesson
never the gsybe during the sex
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh
Yeah, no good to listen to something with big slow builds and then big crashes and crescendos. It's too much pressure! Keeping time isn't important. Good music for sex: the hum of the refrigerator, traffic noise through an open window, the neighbors having sex.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Ok strike the last one, that's just amusing anytime.
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 06:06 (4 hours ago)
I used to do this quite a lot - a decent bitter, not too light, and malt scotch whisky - a large measure rather than a shot. Perfect combination and over time gets you delightfully drunk in a very profound way. Great for daytime drinking.
Can't really do it any more - whisky plays havoc with my mood. Have seen thriving old men doing it as well though, so it can't be all bad.
― GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I tell you -- they skip the beer. Whiskey will let you get old, but you have to learn its strange ways.
― Hot Heineken (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link
It's true - the mysteries of whiskey are very deep indeed.
― GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link
The age-old rule, passed down from father to son, is "Don't drink too much of this deadly shit." But it's written in such sloppy handwriting that few can read it. Also it seems to have been pissed on a bit.
― CD spinnin', AC hummin', feelin' pretty (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link
There was a point, not a very good point in all probability, where I was drinking half a bottle of Macallan's a day on top of beer etc. God alone knows how I was affording it, not eating very much I suspect, and still functioning fine. Then about a year later of more or less heavy drinking I had a 12hr or so blackout, stopped drinking completely for a couple of months and have never been able to drink to the same levels again. (Surely a good thing, although it's hard not to feel a certain fondness for the days of booze and roses).
Nowadays drinking whisky, although pleasurable at the time, the next day envelopes me in such heavy gloom and sadness that I rarely do it, or if I do, have no more than a glass.
― GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Your story makes me glad that I am able to miss it. I love whiskey. I have drank far too much of it at times myself -- FAR too much. I vaguely remember weeping, lying on the floor in a hallway, covered in Ethiopian takeout. But just vaguely. Others close to me could probably tell you things I don't remember at all. They're welcome to tell you as long as they don't tell me. I don't want to know, I really don't.
― CD spinnin', AC hummin', feelin' pretty (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't want to know.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I wish I had some whiskey right now.
Yes, I'm at work. So?
― For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
the older I get the more I appreciate keeping a pleasant low-level buzz going over a few hours before bed. this is why I now spend money on good tasting liquor. I generally drop a single ice cube in a nice heavy glass and sip on it for a good while.
― mr. me too (rockapads), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
oh shit I need whiskey
it is so goddamned hot here
― clotpoll, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
oh that was actually the last 100 posts sorry for being redundant
Whiskey and I...we're like a previously married couple who used to fight/fuck/fight/fuck/fight/fuck and then just decided it was too exhausting for us to continue.
We still get together for the occasional low-level petting, which rarely leads to getting it done. We are pretty much fond, but distant, acquaintances.
It makes me sad that I can't handle it any more, but the truth is I can't, and whiskey is more than willing to remind me of that any time I need that type of reminder.
Also - to clarify: whiskey (or whisky, if you prefer) is an alcoholic beverage distilled from grain mash. Scotch, bourbon, Tennessee, Canadian...all are whiskys/ies. The differentiation between some as and some as not whiskey/y is an irksome, and completely incorrect.
― Two Will Get You Three (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
is an irksome habit
― Two Will Get You Three (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
― For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:16 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Jamón Balearico (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
ditto
― probably gets busy with larper chicks or somefin' (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
rip van winkle family reserve rye is where it's at when whisk(e)y has an 'e' in it.― Ed (dali), Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:13 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^four year old post totally on the money
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Be even better when it's 12 years old. Or 16! Might cost a lot more by then, though.
― CD spinnin', AC hummin', feelin' pretty (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahah. it costs plenty now as it is!
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Both points had me firmly nodding at the screen like a simpleton responding to a question. The spelling differentiation between single malt whisky and whiskey needs to go as well. Some form of needless snobbery is at work here, although I can't quite work out the mechanics of it.
― GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
rip van winkle family reserve rye is where it's at when whisk(e)y has an 'e' in it.― Ed (dali), Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:13 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink^four year old post totally on the money
^one of the many things you can't get in Pennsylvania.
I really want to try this:
http://www.anchorbrewing.com/images/old_potrero_19th_bottle.jpgAlso not available in PA.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
TBH, their whole line up looks awesome:
http://www.anchorbrewing.com/about_us/anchordistilling.htm
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
the A1 top rule for not getting stupid drunk isn't drinking water all night (that'll help the hangover), it's eating a lot of food before drinking. it doesn't "soak up" the alcohol, but having food in your stomach modulates how long things (including alcohol) stay sequestered there. that is, your intestines can only absorb so much at a time, so
empty stomach: alcohol gets dumped by the stomach immediately, and is taken up by the intestine and you get housedfull stomach: alcohol has to hang out while the stomach metes out small portions of food into the intestine, like an on-ramp at rush hour
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Preach it.
― CD spinnin', AC hummin', feelin' pretty (kenan), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Thankin u, alcohol dehydrogenases! I learnt that from a surgical technologist I went on a date with once. He never called me back, but I remembered the science lecture portion of the evening.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
it also means that loading up on food after you're drunk won't sober you up, like, at all
xp yeah, and "asian blush" if anyone's interested, has to be with a deficiency in aldehyde dehydrogenase, leading to a build up of acetaldehyde, which is what causes the blushing and nausea. this is just speculation, but: getting really trashed also probably saturates your ADH activity, and there's a backlog of acetaldehyde, which leads to some of the symptoms of being super wasted
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
oops "has to be" = "has to do"
― i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
most expensive whiskey I ever had was this: http://www.whisky.fr/medias/images/produits/675x900/m355.jpg
it goes for up to $5500 fyi
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i have a bottle of reg. midleton sitting at home, waiting for the right occasion....
― unlucky son (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
btw the western gold bourbon in Lidl is really really nice.
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
also cheap
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
The spelling differentiation between single malt whisky and whiskey needs to go as well.
I'm on the fence with this one - part of me likes the different spelling as representative of the different traditions that go into the whole whiskey thing, and the other part just wishes we could drop all the naming conventions and get good and stinking with each other.
Man, I got a thirst after reading this thread. Luckily, it will be 6 hours at least before I can even acquire booze, so hopefully it will have abated by then.
― Two Will Get You Three (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Ed, Old Portrero is really good, it's very unique. It's not like bourbon or scotch at all, hard to describe. its definitely worth finding.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I am off to SF next month, I shall make a beeline for the distillery.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Enjoy. If you ever find yourself up in Massachusetts, that is where i have had the best luck in finding Pappy Van Winkle. Their website also has a state by state list of their retailers:
http://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/newbs/vw/website3.nsf/wProducts?readform&t=Products
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
bought a bottle of george dickel last night, was very pleased. sipped it neat
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Only had a pull or two of the dickel and I liked.
― ╓abies, Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
(ilx quoted out of context)
at $18, dickel used to be a go-to of mine, felt like a steal. now it's like $24. still tasty tho.
― W i l l, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
found it for $20 in western MA
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
at a place that sells maker's mark for $24
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
ye olde Chicopee Chiseller
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Dickel is pretty decent, I think I paid $18 in DC.
i used some to make a sazerac last night (OK not orthdox and I had no peychaud and had to do a twist of lime), but I have a bottle of HB pastis and it had to be done.
http://themoment.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/tales-of-a-cocktail-sampling-sazeracs-in-new-orleans/
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
ok if you paid $18 in dc (where i live) and tracer is calling marker's for $24 chiseling, i really need to stop going to the neighborhood corner liquor store.
― W i l l, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
PA state liquor (not known for its cheapness) lists it for $19.99.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
there's a real nice liquor store less than a minute from my place but everything costs a fortune there. i think a bottle of laphroaig was like 60 bucks, i got one for 40 in new hampshire two weeks ago.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
$24 for maker's is chiseling? wow i thought i was getting a deal.
yea i feel like it's hard tho to find out if you're getting ripped off - most of the liquor stores around here sell stuff for similar prices. guess u find out by traveling a bit. i didn't buy any liquor really until i moved to western MA so i'm not sure what stuff would cost in, say, cleveland, where i grew up
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
i think tho that my liquor store is moderately priced then - they had laphroaig for like $48
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
damnit what was the single malt i had the other night that had a lovely treacley finish?
― ledge, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Beer seems really expensive here which is a bummer, I' just drink wine these days.
― ╓abies, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah twas Isle of Jura it was. xp.
― ledge, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Ed do you recall where you bought dickel for $18 in dc
― W i l l, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
laphroaig under 50 in mass is generally indicative of good prices imo. 24 for maker's seems like a deal tho i don't really like maker's at all.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i've never even heard of dickel--are ppl recommending it?
Somewhere around 16th and P/Q, bought whilst walking from Dupont circle to the Doubletree.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i like it! xp
think it's a really good value too
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
also here's what merle haggard has to say about dickel:
"I think George Dickel is absolutely the best Tennessee mash whiskey. It's my understanding that Jack Daniel's was an attempt to try to take the recipe of George Dickel to a commercial state of reproducing it. Whereas they couldn't do that with George Dickel, because in order to make it the way they make it, they would have had to repeat too many different formulas. It would have been impossible. They did certain things at certain temperatures in a certain kind of water. So I went down there and looked at their distilleries and saw what they were doing, saw the difference between that and Jack Daniel's, and I couldn't believe it. You take George Dickel and you pour it over ice and hold it up to the light, and it won't separate. But if you take Jack Daniel's and do that, hold it up to the light, you'll notice that the corn oil starts separating from the whiskey, because it hasn't been married at the correct temperature. When you go down and have this education thrown upon you, and then you drink it—everybody got drunk when we was taking pictures. It was about 20 girls and about 20 guys, and we're all down in this creek drunk with two fists of George Dickel apiece, and we all stayed over and had breakfast together, and not a one of us had a hangover."
I would recommend dickel, decent cheapish whiskey, quite light compared to Makers, Woodford and the like. It mixes nicely, makes a great old fashioned.
― Mornington Crescent (Ed), Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
merle haggard reccomends ithttp://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/gridw/grid_dickel.jpgxxp
― mizzell, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, I juuust opened this thread to bring up that Merle Haggard endorsement.
― ╓abies, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
cool, i will check that out--i want to trade an amount of my beer drinking for whiskey sipping so something tasty and cheap will help that process.
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahah awesome ad!
that is pretty much why i bought dickel xp
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
was probably Cairo at 17th & Corcoran - good little shop, especially great beer selection.
― dramatic, positive, whatever but in an ironic way (I DIED), Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
mark i will confess that it's been a while since i've bought a fifth of bourbon but i always thought of maker's as really not much better than jim beam if at all
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link
and i prefer evan williams to either, which is (i believe) cheaper
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
they def aren't cheap and they may seem trendy but these hudson river valley whiskies are really really goodhttp://tuthilltown.com/QUALITY/gif/ryetrans.gif http://tuthilltown.com/QUALITY/gif/babytrans.gif
― mizzell, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
nice-looking bottles
― north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
yea def
― mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
can anyone recommend a good, affordable sipping rye? is old overholt any good? jim beam rye? looking for something in the $15-$30 range that won't give me a hangover. will likely be sipping it neat
― mark cl, Friday, 17 July 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link
will def not be mixing
― mark cl, Friday, 17 July 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
sazerac is good - not sure how much that is in the US but i would have thought it would be in that price range.rittenhouse is also good but prob not for just sipping
― just sayin, Friday, 17 July 2009 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
funny, i didn't even know sazerac is a co., thought it was a cocktail until i just went to their website
― mark cl, Friday, 17 July 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Beam Rye is actually pretty tasty. I would recommend it neat or on the rocks.
― NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
how does it compare to old overholt? (which i've never tried, but i'm just really loving its bottle:)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/RyeWhiskey.jpg/200px-RyeWhiskey.jpg
― mark cl, Friday, 17 July 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
rittenhouse 100 proof is good in that price range, old overhold & beam rye are both excellent for the money (should be $12-15/bottle)
― dramatic, positive, whatever but in an ironic way (I DIED), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I have never had overholt, actually.
But I would take I DIED's advice on matters of alcohol and cocktails.
― NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 17 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
this is inspiring me to hunt down some dickel. i've had it before but didn't pay much attention.
tonight i am drinking fighting cock, which i bought because it was like $18.95 and the name is funny. it's not bad. 103 proof though woah.
i always wanted to try those hudson whiskeys, but i never felt flush enough to spring for them.
have you guys had black maple hill?
― tehresa, Sunday, 19 July 2009 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link
so the overholt, didn't work out so well as a sippin' drink. i think i just need to get used to the rye, though, it seems a bit harsher than bourbon. will definitely give it another chance.
this weekend i visited some friends in NY, one of whom gets all kinds of complimentary spirits through his job. got to business around 1pm on saturday, mostly mid-range stuff with a few 'entry-level' whiskies like jameson
(should mention that i'm a whiskey n00b so 80% of these were my first tastes, the rest probably just 2nd or 3rd)
1pm - highland park 12 (friend has these awesome riedel single malt glasses that he also got through his job, suited this perfectly) this was awesome2pm - jameson original - liked it a lot. was obviously a step down from the highland park but i think this could work well as a kind of standard 'house whiskey' to have around the apartment3 pm - johnnie walker black, also sipped a little bit of the red since i've never had it
took break for falafel, walk around neighborhood, checked out whiskey selections in local liquor stores
5pm - crown royal, not too much of a fan. too sweet? tasted kind of syrupy. will probably not bother with this again, tho i guess it could be worth a second chance. also, kind of laughed at the fancy bottle/purple pouch thing matched up with a plastic cap. you'd think they'd throw a nicer cap on it6pm - sampled some rums that he also got for free. can't totally remember them, abuelo something?
took break for dinner, drank some wine
8pm - woodford reserve, favorite of the day for sure, followed closely by the highland park. gave myself a big pour9:30pm - highland park in the fancy single malt glasses again, finish like we started
― mark cl, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
highland park was my first favorite whisky
it has the added bonus of making a very good gravity bong if you remove the bottom of the bottle
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
for that real smoky flavor
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
― mark cl, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
that's adding some class
'i huff my gravity bong w/ highland park 12 bottles, nothing but the best'
― mark cl, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
do you really not get a hangover with good whiskey?
― Daniel Baboon (brownie), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
can't say for sure. i didn't feel great on sunday but i wasn't exclusively drinking good whiskey. was mixing w/ wine & rum & cheaper whiskies too
― mark cl, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
don't think i've ever gotten drunk solely off good whiskey to the point that i'd otherwise get a hangover tbh
I have gotten HAMMERED off really expensive whiskey, and yes.
You get hungover as fuck off good whiskey.
― NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Żubrówka is the only liquor that has ever had that magical effect, and i was in my early 20s, so..
Springbank makes some unbelievably good whisky as well
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Just as I suspected. xpost
http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Jobs_and_People/Spies_and_Investigators/Investigator_writes.gif
― Daniel Baboon (brownie), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i am endorsing old overholt as of now tbh
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link
nice!
― mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
yea i've come around to it now. i went back a few nights in a row and enjoyed it a lot
going back to george dickel as i type
― mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
also found knob creek sold at around the corner for $29. picked it up, seemed like a good deal and was the last bottle they had. most other places around here are selling it for $38-$40
― mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i've had old overholt out at bars a few times, but never seen it in a store. the only thing i can find regularly is the beam rye, which is very easy to drink.
― ian, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i was at a nice cocktails place on thurs and they were doing overholt with a couple other elements to make a nice sweetened version. sold me on picking it up for 13 bucks--that was the price at the really expensive liquor store!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
woah that is expensive for knob! i'm used to it being in the 32-35 range?
tracer, zubrowka, <3!
i just made bulleit + soda. nice revive timing.
― tehresa, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Enjoying Wild Turkey right now but don't know if I could stand it without rocks.
― the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 July 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't get a hangover from good whiskey but maybe i'm special
― avuenjo, Monday, 27 July 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link
that's because you're on drugs
― velko, Monday, 27 July 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd118/embarchie/5ow2di.jpg
― avuenjo, Monday, 27 July 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
100% sold on the g. dickel btw
― mark cl, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
what do people think of bulleit bourbon?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/NEW_BULIT_750ML_lo_res.jpg
bought some the other day and tried it last night. thought it was really good. definitely didn't strike me as a soft bourbon, it was even a little harsh. lots of cedar imo. really good and fairly complex.
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link
meant that to be an image, not italics
w/ some friends last night we did a blind tasting of the 4 whiskeys i have: knob creek, bulleit, g. dickel, and old overholt. it was pretty fun! old overholt was pretty clearly the least complex, knob the most. knob won out over the bulleit for the ~$30 range.
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
big fan of bulleit, when i first found it (living in tucson at the time) it was cheap too
― W i l l, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i need to do a blind tasting one of these days.
― W i l l, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
http://graphic-design.tjs-labs.com/pictures/booze-time-05-05-1958-998.jpg
― m coleman, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
wooooof old grand-dad was the first whiskey i've ever tried, snuck it from my parents' liquor cabinet when i was 15. shit was gross imo but it has been 11 years since i've tried it
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
that shit was responsible for me & lots of friends throwing up, many times
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
give it another try! O G-D was my grandfather's favorite (he lived in kentucky) not as heavy/complex as knob creek et al but v. v. drinkable on the rocks
― m coleman, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
ok i will
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link
regarding that kind of price range/shelf level i have a friend who swears by old crow. bottle looks like a wild turkey knock-off but i haven't tried it
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Old Crow is pretty godawful, if memory serves correctly, but my friend and I only really tried it a long time ago.
― mh, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yea it looks terrible
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
old crow is fine liberally mixed with something else.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
god i wish bulleit was broadly available in england
― thomp, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
mix with lemonade if you want to feel like a middling poet whose second marriage is failing in the early 1960s.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
also i wish i could afford to buy this on the regular
http://www.whiskybook.net/images_whisky/Laphroaig_10_Year_Old_Cask_Strength.jpg
― thomp, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
^^
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i just need to suck it up and buy a bottle
― thomp, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:36 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
it is! thresher's/wine rack stock it.
― joe, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
xp tho i'm waiting for the weather to cool down a bit. sippin bourbon is fine during the summer but for a real peaty scotch i think i want it to be a little colder outside
― mark cl, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
oh fuck guys i came here to post one thing but i gotta say--just buy laphroaig it is the best thing ever.
i was planning on posting that i was at a place on friday and got some old overholt old fashioneds--i watched their technique and tonight am ripping it off to quite good effect.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 24 August 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Nice. Woodford on the rocks for me, with a little....Pasadena local-grown.
Set up the office much better, so I can work more from home and less from the office. Gonna be a good thing.
BTW - I've known this for over a decade, but whiskey is wonderful. I really need to keep the good run of times with whiskey I've had lately. Gotta respeckt this stuff. Got some punch. 1-2 drinks each, tops. Any more, and the next day is just painful.
― Adventures of Dog Boy and Frank Sobotka (B.L.A.M.), Monday, 24 August 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
ack draank a bottle of johnnie walker red over the weekend :(
― wilter, Monday, 24 August 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link
only have a teeny bit of my talisker 18 yr left too :(
― wilter, Monday, 24 August 2009 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Can I informally poll you distilled people?
Is there as much a divide, as I see, between Scotch and bourbon drinkers? I mean, I'm never gonna turn down a glass someone offers me, but I GREATLY prefer bourbon to Scotch. I don't even keep Scotch in the house, despite my acknowledgement of it being a great liquor of the world.
Thoughts?
― Adventures of Dog Boy and Frank Sobotka (B.L.A.M.), Monday, 24 August 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I hav <3 4 both
― wilter, Monday, 24 August 2009 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
but def prefer a good scotchie
― wilter, Monday, 24 August 2009 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I used to prefer scotch, now prefer bourbon.
― Britain's Favourite Carp (I DIED), Monday, 24 August 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link
scotch has never really done anything for me, even laphroaisdgkj
bourbon til i die(prematurely of cirrhosis)
― tehresa, Monday, 24 August 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not big on bourbon, would chose scotch over it just about always (but i don't like laphroaig)
― velko, Monday, 24 August 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Virginia Lightning is awesome stuff.
― Reatards Unite, Monday, 24 August 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Legal moonshine, actually.
― Reatards Unite, Monday, 24 August 2009 06:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Laphroaig is way too peaty for me, but I'm not really a fan of the Islay scotches.
― mh, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it's all a mood thing--i always have a bottle of each in the home bar at all times. bourbon is much better if yr out with friends (though dewar's and ginger is a good go to mixed drink at bars), and lately i've been wrapping up nicer dinners with some scotch since i have no use for coffee at that time of day. i expect as someone was alluding to upthread i'll go w/more scotch as it gets cooler out.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm a week late but bulleit is fucking awesome.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
came into whiskey intrigued by both. gradually i've realized that i definitely prefer bourbon. tennessee whiskey too. can't nail it down exactly but i've tried some scotches that do nothing for me, but in just about every bourbon i've tried i've found something i liked (tho tbh i haven't tried the low low end shelf bourbons). i'll prob regret saying this once 'my palette is more refined' but i'll defintely take an average-to-modestly-good bourbon or tennesee - your g. dickel or maker's - to, say, a glenlivet or something like that
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link
tho i guess glenlivet is pretty middle of the road wrt moderately priced scotches? i don't know.
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link
also anyone try michter's whiskeys? they've got a rye whiskey, a bourbon, and an unblended american whiskey. want to buy b/c they look good and aren't horribly expensive (mid-$30s)
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
From what I remember about michter's it's a bit brighter than a maker's or something, but I could be totally wrong cause I haven't had it in 2 or so years.
I am on my way to buy whiskey right now, actually... What will I get?
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:11 (fourteen years ago) link
get g. dickel if you're looking for something not too expensive. i will rep for this whiskey non-stop
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
glenlivet is on the low end of single malts, price-wisenot a great scotch, but serviceable
― velko, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
a friend recently traded a piece of his art to his liquor store distributor boss for a $750 bottle of Ardbeg that was as old as me. i'm 36. my friend shared and it was a landmark experience for me for real. that stuff got me high. oh man. imagine laphroaig but more deep than bright and complex beyond, well, what i'd imagined it could be at least. very round and simple finish though and left the tongue numb. oh man i want some more. sigh. mh, you wouldn't like this one though. if Laph is too peaty-islay, this one would turn you off.
oh, and this friend did have a bottle of the regular 10 or 12-yr ardbeg and it was good. but more $$ than laphroiag, the quality of which makes it kind of a bargain in comparison
― andrew m., Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― mark cl, Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― cutty probably already everyone (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't even imagine what that tastes like xp
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i got bulleit. and some sazerac rye. and regular and orange bitters.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i love scotch and whiskey with equal ventricles of my <3
― A DOG, A BARREL... RIDICULOUS! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link
john, that is fucking poetic.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i enjoy sazerac.
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link
sazerac is one of my favs, just wish it was cheaper over her in the uk
― just sayin, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i've yet to see sazerac in shops
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link
blanchard's in allston!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
on the question you raise:
the only really nice scotch i've spent enough time with to really say anything about is laphroaig, which i love for v. specific reasons and want to drink once every couple months. i have had some of the more common single malts and they're nothing special. i do like dewar's and stuff as a cheapish sipping drink or highball drink--it's pretty smooth and tasty.
i do agree that bourbon/tennessee is prob a bit more agreeable to my palette overall. but i've also been enjoying canadian club recently so maybe i don't know what i'm talking about.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
― joe, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:40 (1 month ago) Bookmark
My local Threshers closed down yesterday and I went in and bought a bottle of bulleit for 20% off. And then, as I was talking to the woman she was all "ah, fuck this company" and threw in another bottle for free!
May have been a shitty week but sometimes I love life.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
bulleit is really good imo
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link
lots of cedar
there are few things better than free alcohol.
last night i finished off my Macallan 10yr (fine oak), which i've enjoyed very much. now looking for something similar, sweet not peaty, not really wanting to pay more than 35-40€. any tips?
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm trying to figure out my next bourbon purchase, suggestions?
prob don't want to spend more than $40, would maybe go up to like $45. want it to be really interesting - i have a really close friend/whiskey buddy who's been going through some rough financial times who's visiting in a few weeks and i want to have something really good on hand for him to try. dude needs some cheering up. what do you say?
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't really know single-malts all that well but do you like highland park? is that comparable at all to macallan 10
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
have never tried highland park. i think it might be a bit more on the heavier, smokier side than what i'm looking for? seem to have some good stuff in my price range tho
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd just like to take a short moment to genuflect upon the wizened grimace of Old man Overholt. Mixes a finer Manhattan than any bourbon.
― Drove away his head. (Derelict), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
he makes a damn fine old-fashioned too
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
single malt classification:http://www.whiskyclassified.com/classification.html
― this must be what FAIL is really like (ledge), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Has anyone tried the Suntory/Yamazaki whiskies? I am curious but I don't know if that's just because lol japanese scotch
I thought I just posted this but it seems to have vanished. er
― thomp, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i have always wanted to but they're a bitch to find
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i know one bar that has one of them but it's the kind of place where i would feel like a dork ordering that
Anyone ever had Blanton's? Best bourbon I've ever tasted, hands down.
― dan m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
the japanese whiskies are real good apparently but yea i never see them either
― just sayin, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
xp blanton's, no i haven't... ok yea i've seen it tho, cool bottle
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.winespecialist.com/ecart/img/productImages/blantons.JPG
how much does it run for?
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link
McClelland's bottles a nice peaty, islay single malt that's pretty worthy for someone who wants Laphroiag-like flavor but doesn't want to pay for it all the time. It's available around here for under $25! it's the least expensive islay scotch i've seen available. recommended.
Of the other McClelland's single malts, I've had the highland variety, but you could go even cheaper and do better I think.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 23 September 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
One of the Yamazakis has started showing up in Tesco. And there's a whisky shop here that stocks like four different variations.
Ha, according to that link McClelland is a subsidiary of a subsidiary of Suntory.
― thomp, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp I've only seen Blanton's at one store around my house, and it was $54. $9 a glass at the bar. If I had a job it might almost be worth it.
― dan m, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm thinking i might go w/ the michter's i saw in the shop the other day
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I did a favor for a friend and his parents, who dont drink anymore, gave me a gallon bottle of Chivas that they have had lying around for 40 years. It says 12 years old on the label, so its 52 years old. It's so goddamn smooth its dangerous.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting, bill. that actually brings up a n00b question i was wondering about tho - does aging matter once the whiskey (or wine or whatever) is bottled? or is it only the barrel/cask aging that matters?
i.e. i know that the wood in the barrels are responsible for so much of the flavor and color, so once it leaves the barrel and is bottled, is still "aging" ("aging" as opposed to just, um, getting older)
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
okay yea i'm a dumbass - i just thought about wine cellars and all that so yea if it's stored properly it definitely continues to age
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I am not sure either. This is the first really old whiskey I've had. It's really smooth, there is almost an apple-like aftertaste to it. There is no bite at all.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006020304959
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/61059
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
"authoritative"
fwiw last night i continued to drink the bottle of Jefferson's that DMR gave me. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2088/2320605840_56e2b78f18.jpg
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I had a Suntory once at Angel's Share in New York and liked it ok but I'm not really a Scotch guy, when I ordered it I thought it was bourbon. oops!
also anyone try michter's whiskeys? they've got a rye whiskey, a bourbon, and an unblended american whiskey.
michter's rye is good imo. drier and lacks that spiciness that Sazerac has (to me that's a good thing, altho I like sazerac too. your mileage may vary)
xpost - lol good timing
― dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
so apparently the bottle-aging does nothing for spirits, only the cask aging does. what about a bottle of wine in a cellar? on beer i've read some basic things like this http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/store so i guess it varies between spirits/wine/beer?
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
wine is different, yes
generally I think if the wine bottle is corked properly then red wine will age and get better over time. if air gets in it will eventually turn to vinegar. I should leave this to someone who knows but I'm pretty sure that's the deal. white wine usually doesn't benefit from aging iirc
― dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i might go buy some liquor right now!
― cutty probably already everyone (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
wine and beer def both age, i mean i don't really know what the fuck i'm talking about but i always just figured distilled spirits are kind of stable by the time they're bottled.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
right
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
this bourbon is so freakin good
http://www.whisky-pages.com/images/stagg-big.jpg
I think I even like it better than Booker's. super high proof but smooth.
― dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, ive been proven wrong about my 50 year old chivas. Still tastes goddamn good though!!
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
this is a very, very good whiskey bar in downtown l.a.
http://www.sevengrand.la/
kind of a douchey scene, though.
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
there is some charlatanism going on in some of the whiskey-centric bars in New York, glass of Stagg at Char No. 4 (fancy place with 100s of bourbons in Brooklyn) is $26 and at Whiskey Ward (dive in Manhattan with a small but good list) it's $12
― dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Buffalo Trace Experimental Zinfandel Barrel
wow what in the fuck is this. Char No. 4 has this for $60 a glass. sounds terrible! but Buffalo Trace made Stagg so who knows
― dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
glass of Stagg at Char No. 4 (fancy place with 100s of bourbons in Brooklyn) is $26
haha wowwwwwwwww
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i will probably never in my life ever feel like i could drop $26 on one drink
except when i'm 60 and $26 pints are the standard
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I miss the days of hanging out at the whiskey ward.
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
sevengrand is really great when not crowded. Which is hardly EVER. Otherwise, roll deep and take over a booth. The whiskey selection is unmatched in the greater LA area as far as I can tell.
― Adventures of Dog Boy and Frank Sobotka (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Char No. 4 was OK but I wasn't thrilled with their selection for a bourbon place.
― Britain's Favourite Carp (I DIED), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
is there a whiskey equivalent for beermenus.com? not that i do much high-end bourbon drinking (especially not at a bar) but it would be neat to have as a reference.
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ian/dmr, fette sau has stagg for $16 i think? not sure what age it is.
i can't find it in stores here.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
sixteen is too much for a glass of whiskey imo. though i do love fette sau.
you can buy most liquor online tza.
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i know. i gotta get on that.
i had it there to celebrate my last day of work in may, and i had 1. i wouldn't normally drink that extravagantly!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
but in some cases, better to spend $16 on a kickass whiskey than get 2 glasses of a poorer one.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
what about sixteen shots of something dreadful
― thomp, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
yea what are some good online liquor stores
― mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
not sure what age it is.
I'm pretty sure there's only one age of it cause after I saw how much cheaper the Stagg was at Whiskey Ward I tried to check to see if CN4 had had some super-premium Stagg 30 Year or something. but no, they just have really high-ass prices. I liked the food though, the house-made sausages were v good ... as a bar it's kinda bullshit.
― dmr, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
imo use google shopping for price comparisons
― ian, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
buffalo trace
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 1 October 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
good?
― mark cl, Thursday, 1 October 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i have not developed an advanced bourbon palate but i think it's awesome. it smells incredible.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 1 October 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone had wasmund's single malt (or anything else) from copper fox distillery?
― W i l l, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
drinking knob creek at the moment.however, the last two nights i've been drinking the special at a bar in the neighborhood--shot of evan williams & can of black label for $4. pretty good deal imo.
― ian, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
(xpost) They're getting better with each release, but they still don't stand up to a more traditionally made product. Good effort, and I understand why they did the wood chip quick aging the way they did (hard to be a start up distillery and wait years for your first income), but so far all the ones I've had just seem like part of an interesting learning process. Might be serious in a couple more years, though.
― Britain's Favourite Carp (I DIED), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmm, thanks for the tip.
― W i l l, Thursday, 1 October 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
enjoying some fine jack daniels right about now
― hyperstudio (skeletor), Thursday, 1 October 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
drinking knob creek at the moment.
same here
― dmr, Thursday, 1 October 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Rittenhouse 100 with ginger ale.
― svend, Thursday, 1 October 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
youre right, buffalo trace does not taste bad by any stretch but it smells absolutely amazing. at (now sadly defunct) marty's liquors down the street from me, there used to be this weird old guy who didn't actually work there but liked to pretend he did. if you went down one of the liquor aisles he would ask you what you were looking for, and he was pretty hard to get rid of. he turned me on to buffalo trace. i think he was actually pretty knowledgeable of their stock!
― yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Thursday, 1 October 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I DIED, I sent you a webmail.
― W i l l, Friday, 2 October 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
basil hayden's - pretty good imo. almost fruity on the nose, maybe a little cinnamon? apparently is made w/ twice as much rye as some of the other small batches from beam - you can definitely taste it. there's like this slightly minty flavor there, w/ a little spice. definitely lighter than a most of the bourbons i've tried
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the thing i noticed about it was how it disappeared off yr palate as soon as you swallowed. i was kind of put off at first but then i decided it was cool.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yea right? it totally does that!!
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's the damnedest thing. definitely works better neat or with one ice cube as opposed to some bourbons where i want them to mellow out over the course of a glass. it's already totally mellow to begin with.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i bought some bulleit today btw--may have a glass in a bit.
yea it's really really mellow
out of the whiskeys i have (which isn't many) - knob, bulleit, dickel, overholt - it's the overholt that it reminds the most of. must be the rye? that could be way off and i'll probably change that the more i drink BH or do a side-by-side tasting but it kind of tastes like a much brighter, more flowery/fruitier overholt. there is this base flavoring the two of them have that seems similar
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i like bulleit a lot
there's this big cedar flavor that bulleit has that i like a lot
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah!
bh, i never thought of it as particularly light! hmm.
― tehresa, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you pronounce bulleit?
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
everywhere i've heard it's just "bullet"
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
a whiskey dork and close friend who works in the spirits industry also clarified for me that it's "bullet"
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
ok that's what i thought!
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't wanna walk into a store and be like do you guys have boo-lightmaybe i will get some. i am more interested in liquor than i used to be (mostly a beer person).
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
ppl should have whiskey on hand imo
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
the world of whiskey welcomes u, harbl ; )
― velko, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
what a douche jay blanchard was drinking scotch out of a pint glass with ice = GTFO
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, carry on thread.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
finishing my bottle of knob tonight. prob gonna get a bottle of buffalo trace next? never had it, heard good things.
― ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
hahah xxp
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
buffalo trace is enjoyable imo
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i've heard great things about buffalo trace, especially blanton's which is from the BT distillery
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i don't have proper whiskey glass sizes at all. drinking glasses - 2 left, i broke 1, 32 oz mason jars, coffee mugs (drinking wine out of a handmade one that says "good luck you'll need it" rn). i hope that's ok with y'all.
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
peeps love their bourbon, we need some scotch/irish drinkers itt imo
― velko, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link
britishers are asleep right now. just wait.
― ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i have laphroaig on hand; also i stan dewars on a regular basis
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
btw CAD i went to blanchard's the other night. that place is awesome - tons of beer in the cooler, even more on the shelves. whiskey selection was much better than most places i've been so far in boston. staff were super helpful - i think like three different people asked if i need help, and the guy i talked to about bourbon chatted w/ me for a while
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
not crazy abt irish most of the time tho i do have an untouched bottle of midleton i'm saving for the right moment
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
oh rad mark! bought bulleit and wine there tonight--it's a good store.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link
currently drinking: The Macallan Select Oak – "Testament to The Macallan’s knowledge and mastery of wood, Select Oak uses 3 cask types – American Oak seasoned with either sherry or bourbon and first-fill European oak casks seasoned with sherry. Investing more per cask than any other Single Malt, each Macallan cask has been handcrafted and selected under the supervision of The Macallan’s Master of Wood, George Espie. This very special whisky has a high proportion of first fill Sherry Oak casks."
It's awesome.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
harbl go to a thrift store, you'll prob find something great and for cheap. went to a salvation army specifically for sipping glasses and found a set of 4 perfect glasses for like $2
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
haha thrift store is where i got my formerly 3 drinking glasses, so of course that'd be the first place i'd look
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
yes thrift stores are great for little sets of tumblers
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
hahah jim that sounds great, how much is it per bottle? xxp
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i have these weird little blue glasses i got in a thrift store that i never really use, but they are cool
i've been drinking my bourbon lately out of a teacup :\
― ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
seconding laphroaig; also, scapa.
― ljubljana, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i don't even care about having different-sized glasses. i like this set of coffee mugs i got from college pottery sale. i could drink whiskey out of them.
― Peepoop Patel (harbl), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link
yea all it needs to be is relatively small. before i got the ones i have, i used these tiny ceramic mugs that my sister made, they were pretty great
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
― mark cl
on the site i c&p'd that info from it says $53, can't remember what it cost me when i got it at the duty free at an airport in Spain, just remember i decided to buy myself a bottle of whiskey that cost almost as much as the bottle of perfume i was buying for my girl.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
$53 doesn't sound that bad for what you described imo
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, this bulleit. sweet and smooth--really really tasty.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
yea it's nice and really good for the price imo - usually around $30/bottle
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I always thought it was pronounced bull-LEET but I don't think I've ever said it out loud. glad this thread set me straight
― dmr, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link
buffalo trace is pretty good, ian
I may need to get a bottle of something for my friend's Breeders' Cup get-together next weekend
― dmr, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i've always heard bullet like what you put in a gun
― tehresa, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm sure that's right. I was only pronouncing it to myself in my head :)
― dmr, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
in my head before i heard anyone say it i thought bull-light bc that's how it'd be pronounced in german.
― tehresa, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
whiskey doesn't really go well with chapped lips :\ stinnnnng
― ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
x-post
I figured it was bull-eet, too. And it's $20 at Trader Joe's in So Cal. I'm having the last of my bottle now, thanks to this thread.
― nickn, Friday, 30 October 2009 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link
in BC, Canada, I can get Buffalo Trace, Makers, Knob Creek, and Woodford Reserve, as far as high end goes. Jim Beam and Jack Daniels are here too of course. Bulleit appeared this summer and i was so excited but i did not like it - tasted too light, too sweet, too rye.
The one that I like for $30 here is Rebel Yell, which I can only get in Surrey. Woodford Reserve is my favourite in the $40-$50 range, which is where everything else(Makers, Knob Creek, Buffalo) is.
Everytime I come back from the States I pick up something different on the way home - Elmer T Lee was my favorite from the summer.
― derrrick, Friday, 30 October 2009 08:38 (fourteen years ago) link
think I'm finally going to pick up a bottle of whisk(e)y or bourbon after a couple years of not having any. looking for a good sipping kind to have on the rocks. any recs or should I just try and see which one of the recommended ones (bulleit, george dickel, overholt, etc) here I can find in HK?
also this post is inscrutable!
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― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 30 October 2009 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link
also been entertaining the idea of getting a bottle of rye so I can pretend Im a 1930s detective
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 30 October 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think i've ever had rye. Have never enjoyed any bourbon I've tried and Jack Daniels is imo disgusting.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 30 October 2009 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link
this wouldnt be too bad imo - http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/environment/090909/shackletons-whisky?page=0,0
― just sayin, Friday, 30 October 2009 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link
bulleit love.
― lxy, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
superenvious of californians being able to buy for 20 at trader joe's.
― lxy, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah what the hell i'm gonna stock up or something when i go down next year!
― tehresa, Friday, 30 October 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i loooove rye.
― ian, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
rye is fucking great
― just sayin, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
yea seriously a good price here in MA is like $30
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm going home to cleveland in a few weeks, i'm curious to see how prices will compare out there. i might be stocking up on a lot. will definitely at least bring back some beer
― mark cl, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Bulleit appeared this summer and i was so excited but i did not like it - tasted too light, too sweet, too rye.
I love rye but I agree with this, Bulleit is a little light for me
yeesh that is way too much for Makers imo. I drink Makers a fair amount cause a lot of bars that's the best they have but I don't really get bottles of it anymore. too sweet.
my taste runs toward dry though, I like this kind called Corner Creek as a cheap bottle for home (about $22 in New York) but I was looking at reviews on bourbon sites and most of the comments were "hate it, way too dry."
― dmr, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
oh I guess that's canadian dollars. still pretty high though
― dmr, Friday, 30 October 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah in CDN. It is high - Woodford, Buffalo Trace, and Makers are all $48. and to be honest I find Makers too thin, almost sharp. Bulleit is only $33, which is why I wish I enjoyed it more!
― derrrick, Saturday, 31 October 2009 01:56 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit i tried baker's tonight at a bar - i haven't tried too many whiskeys but i might say that this is the best bourbon i've ever had
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
oooh maybe i will try!
i am so bad at drinking now :(
― tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
but also :)
― tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
they had bakers at the bbq joint where i enjoyed my supper this evening. but i was drinking beer & cider tonight, not bourbon. they have a bonded whiskey bottled in 1933 that i would love to try if it didn't cost $72/glass.
― ian, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
It is high - Woodford, Buffalo Trace, and Makers are all $48.
makers def. my least favorite of those three. although tbh it was sort of the first bourbon that got me into bourbon, back in the day. I like it in Manhattans
― dmr, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
really into rye manhattans now
― tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
when I was in Savannah GA over the summer we had this funny bartender who had a geographical theory of the Manhattan and claimed if I told him what region of the country I was from he could tell me which liquor I wanted in my Manhattan. but then I said "New York City" and he guessed "Canadian whiskey" (?) so it sorta threw his expertise into question (I wanted rye). has anyone ever had a Manhattan with Canadian whiskey?
xpost - aw yeah
― dmr, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf
― tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link
he wrote it down on a napkin all secret-like and then had a reveal. I'm sure I was o_0
― dmr, Saturday, 31 October 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I've been gravitating more and more to Four Roses when I'm on a bourbon kick - I usually drink rye so I'm looking to balance it with something on the smooth side when I switch to bourbon. The Four Roses 2008 Mariage is especially amazing.
― I DIED, Saturday, 31 October 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Considering switching from Eagle Rare 10yr to Bulleit for cocktails at home, it mixes very well.
― I DIED, Saturday, 31 October 2009 05:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Canadian Whiskey is usually shorthand for Rye though, no? Canadian Club, Alberta Premium, Crown Royal - Lighter, more Rye. never drink it myself!
― derrrick, Saturday, 31 October 2009 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I liked Four Roses, felt I was being gypped paying £23 for a bottle though. Might get a bottle of Woodford today, tempted to go for something with a less stupid bottle though
― thomp, Saturday, 31 October 2009 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link
what?! the woodford bottle is awesome!
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/images/products/2350.jpg
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
egh sorry i can't seem to post reasonably-sized images anymore
but anyways yea the baker's was unreal. really really intense, burned like crazy (in a good way) and almost left this numbness feeling on my lips. the bar was pretty expensive (it was $9/glass, tho i guess that's not too rare) but i pretty much didn't care after the first few sips. will definitely buy a bottle of this soon
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
despite the burn & the numbness tho it was strangely smooth & rich, LOTS vanilla. felt like there were big nutmeg & cinnamon notes on the nose. it was delicious
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
baker's is great, i like it with a few drops of water
had michter's for the first time a couple nights ago. didn't make too much of an impression.
― W i l l, Saturday, 31 October 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
do you remember which kind of michter's it was?
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
have been curious about it for a while
while most review aren't critical a lot of them seem lukewarm. the bottle/label design is pretty awesome tho:
http://www.klwines.com/images/skus/1015028x.jpg
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the Michter's rye better than the bourbon
― dmr, Saturday, 31 October 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
it was the small batch
― W i l l, Saturday, 31 October 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
as far as i know no one says 'canadian whiskey' here (in canadia, quebec and otherwise), but we do call booze like canadian club 'rye' yeahxposts
i had buffalo trace for the first time a couple of months ago when friend brought it back from usa, and damn, lovvve it. can't find it on the shelves here :/
― paragon of incalescence (rrrobyn), Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
my only experience with canadian club was being really confuse when i was like 14 and my aunt ordered a 'cc and ginger' at dinner. but they live in buffalo, which is close to canada.
― tehresa, Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
my good friend has a big bottle of canadian club on hand as a pretty affordable 'house whiskey' but tbh i'm not that crazy about it. i'd rather just have a cheaper bourbon.
tho apparently a lot of the canadian blended stuff is recommended for mixing rather than sipping
― mark cl, Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
we do call booze like canadian club 'rye' yeah
huh! did not know that
― dmr, Sunday, 1 November 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
the woodford bottle is a little bit too faux-classy for me maybe, i don't know. i still bought it. i was also really tempted to get a bottle of 'jefferson's' and considering what that looks like i guess i can't really talk
― thomp, Sunday, 1 November 2009 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link
bulleit bottle is tip top
― lxy, Sunday, 1 November 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
the jeffersons bottle has that cool etching of him on it tbf
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 1 November 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
guys do I go for highland park 12 year or suntory Yamazaki 12 year single malt
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 6 November 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link
have never had the yamazaki (or any japanese whisky) but the highland park is pretty outstanding
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
good price too for a solid single malt
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, just about every thursday i find myself up late sipping on whiskey and finishing my homework due at 8am friday morning
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm leaning towards the suntory cause it's something I probably won't be able to find back in the states
wish I could taste them first :^(
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 6 November 2009 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
while every reviewer is different and it's no guarantee you'll really like or dislike something, i tend to trust the reviews at whiskymag.com (the famous beer/spirits writer michael jackson has a ton of reviews there)
looking them up, the yamazaki got pretty good to good reviews, the highland park outstanding reviews (is "whiskymag recommended")
but yea you can find highland park basically anywhere. i've never seen the yamazaki in shops before (granted i'm limited to MA shops)
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
plus it's got a dope bottle:
http://www.antennamag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/yamazaki12y_exp.jpg
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
pick up the yamazaki and then a highland park a few months down the road
btw i think i'm gonna buy a bottle of baker's tomorrow
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
yea the answer clearly is buy both :o)
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 6 November 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link
free jameson promotion at the bar tonight. nice treat after my burger/beer.
― ian, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i want to branch out a little - if i pick up the baker's then 4 out of the 6 whiskeys that i currently own will be beam brand. tho i don't really care that much, the baker's was soo good.
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link
motivation for stocking up is that my good friend who is the main person responsible for turning me onto whiskey is visiting next weekend. last time i visited him he laid out this spread of like 12 different whiskeys to chose from, i prob sampled maybe 4 or 5 of them. i kinda want to have some nice things for him to chose from when he visits
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
jamey's is a good whiskey imo! xxp
― mark cl, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
<3 yamazaki bottle
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the box looks cool too! I'll get some cash and pick it up today or tomorrow
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 6 November 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link
just picked up a bottle of talisker 10 year :)
― just sayin, Friday, 6 November 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Maker's Mark = good generic wheater, lacking in complexity, but convenient in its ubiquity. BKnob Creek = slightly better than Maker's. B+Woodford Reserve = Somewhat inconsistent from bottle to bottle. Nice subtle Rye notes. A-Bulleit = Big unsubtle spicy flavor. Too heavy on the rye. Not enough heat on the finish. D-W.L. Weller Special Reserve = Nice Caramel sweetness upfront, mellows into a strong finish with a nice kick. AOld Weller Antique 107 = A little more complex in the body than the Weller Special Reserve, imo, but not as big up front. Nice bite on the finish, but not overwhelming considering the proof. ABuffalo Trace = Too thin. So mellow as to be bland. CRidgemont Reserve 1792 = Similar to Buffalo Trace but worse. D-Baker's = Absolute best Beam has to offer. This and the Weller's are basically uncriticizable. ABooker's = Very good. Smooth with nice heat. B+Basil Hayden's = Swill. D-Jefferson's = Nice. Not very complex journey from caramel to a modest bite. B+Sam Houston = Slightly better (more going on) than the Jefferson's. A-George Dickel = I like it, but I hardly ever mess with it b/c I psychologically associate it with those nights when you get a little to drunk, fight with the gf, and regret everything later. B+ probably.Jim Beam White label = tastes like rubbing alcohol. F
Still need to try 4 Roses and the Evan Williams single barrel, both of which I've heard good things about.
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I have to politely disagree with your assessments of Basil Haydens and Jim Beam White Label.
Although, your tasting of both Bulleit and Buffalo Trace are spot on.
I recommend getting some of the Van Winkle line. Tops.
Also - Booker's is the finest out there, and therefore the best that the Beam brand has to offer.
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
And I've always found Knob Creek to be thinner than Maker's. Perhaps I will give it another go around. It is getting to be whiskey weather.
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah Van Winkle, that's another I need to try.
You could persuade me that Maker's is better than Knob Creek, actually. It's just that in a given week I generally drink at least one bottle of Maker's such that Knob Creek feels like a nice change of pace sometimes. But I don't care that much about either one really.
Basil Hayden's is something I had one overpriced shot of at a bar one time and never looked back. Still won't, but maybe it's better than I give it credit for. Jim Beam white on the other hand...
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link
George Dickel = I like it, but I hardly ever mess with it b/c I psychologically associate it with those nights when you get a little to drunk, fight with the gf, and regret everything later. B+ probably.
looooooool
― mark cl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link
but yea baker's is exquisite
― mark cl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ok i am trying bakers next time i go to a bar that has it.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link
which will probably be sometime in 2012...
Guy who owns one of the liquor stores I frequent keeps trying to push Hancock Reserve on me, but am reluctant to try it because his selling points are that (1) he doesn't like whiskey and (2) it's really smooth. And at $55 a bottle, it sounds like too much to pay for something that's probably going to be too thin for me to enjoy.
― Mister Jim, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link
picked up the Yamazaki 12 year over the weekend and am enjoying it. am not a rater of whisky so I don't know how it compares but I've been having it with some ice and it's been very good.
― 囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
(1) he doesn't like whiskey and (2) it's really smooth.
yea "smooth" can be misleading. sometimes i want my whiskey to have a bite to it, sometimes i like the burn. obv i don't want it to taste like rubbing alcohol but some heat on it isn't a bad thing
― mark cl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
also re: the weller's - that's pretty affordable right? i recall seeing it recently
― mark cl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes 'smooth' = sweet, too. ew.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
go to sleep, they talkin 'bout whiskey.get up in the morn, they talkin 'bout whiskey.
― ian, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"I recommend getting some of the Van Winkle line. Tops."
Holy shit, yes.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i like dickel but B+ for it vs. D- for bulleit doesn't compute
― W i l l, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Pappy Van Winkle is my all-time #1. Expensive though. After that George T. Stagg and Booker's. Generally I like high-proof stuff that can hold up to one or two rocks.
― dmr, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.ellenjaye.com/maj_pikesville.jpg
― luol deng (am0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Beam White Label is the threshold to good bourbons. Everything less - Kentucky Gentleman, Virginia Gentleman, Early Times, etc. - they all suck much ass.
But Beam White is, relatively speaking, a perfectly fine bourbon.
How does everyone feel about Beam Black?
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow. So . . . nobody likes Beam Black Label?
How about. . . Wild Turkey?
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
...
― mark cl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
lol j/k
― mark cl, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
i've never had beam black actually. wild turkey maybe once or twice, but it was so long ago and was before i knew i even liked whiskey
beam white, however, i do agree w/ mister jim in that it's pretty harsh stuff but at the same time i agree w/ u BLAM, in that i don't think it's a bad whiskey. i'd prob choose it over jack daniel's (tho dickel over both of those any day)
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
really hate jack, beam is good tho. thinking about picking up a bottle of beam black
― 囧 (dyao), Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
mark lead for u--federal wine and spirits on state st. in downtown purports to have an excellent whiskey guy who gets a lot of interesting stuff both from scotland and the states. i might check it out on saturday.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
jack is the worst imo. beam white is fine for what it is (cheap whiskey you drink with your friends when yer 16.) never tried beam black. beam's rye is "decent" and cheap.
― ian, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
beam neat is very drinkable and has stood me in good stead
― 囧 (dyao), Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Beam rye is really one of the best spirits you can get for under $15/bottle, total steal
― I DIED, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
had beam rye once and thought it was horrible.
― tehresa, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
plus i think sazerac is like $18?
overholt?
― tehresa, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
overholt is like 13 bucks for a 1 liter
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i like overholt but don't see it around much--sazerac is good as well but i see that even less frequently.
― ian, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
CAD thanks for the tip - i'll definitely check it out soon
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i always see overholt at the store here... i just didn't know if it was good or not bc it seemed cheaper.
― tehresa, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's good for old-fashioneds and occasional sipping
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link
it's nothing special but it's a good price for a type of whiskey that isn't all that common. if you want to get a sense of what a rye tastes like and how it's different from bourbon overholt is a pretty good place to start
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link
bourbon, overholt
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link
should use commas more
nah use em less imo
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Beam Black is a smokier, smoother version of Beam White. Still got more fire than Jack.
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
wild turkey's fine if you're having a beer + a shot. I don't think I'd sip on it though.
― dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
never had any of these beams. just regular jim beam. oh maybe had gentleman jack once or twice. don't really remember it.
― dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
should try some of the Wellers
― dmr, Thursday, 12 November 2009 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
To a Scotch drinker, Maker's tastes like ice cream.
― ljubljana, Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:31 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^this.
And to a bourbon drinker, a good Islay tastes like really, really good topsoil. I mean that in a GOOD way, as the son of a gardener.
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't had scotch in a while now
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
labor day weekend
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
almost bought some yamazaki yesterday but trying not to blow through my entire paycheck in 2.5 weeks the month
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
*this month
yea, right? i keep telling myself "no more whiskey buys til christmas"
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't even keep it around the house anymore. I regard this as a sad state of affairs.
I may change this tonight.
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
and i always just put off the really pricey stuff, like "no way am i gonna spend $60 on whiskey"
but then i spend like $80 on two different bottles
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
just need to suck it up and buy a bottle of laphroaig already. CAD u saying that found it for $40 in NH has prevented me from buying it for anything over $50. hard to find it for less than $55 in boston
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I picked up a bottle of Wellers Special Reserve yesterday, and had a couple of pours over ice and found it a bit underwhelming. I figured it might be a change in my palette or it might be product drift. I tried to do some research to see if anyone else noticed anything or had an explanation. Didn't find anything directly on topic, but I did stumble on this discussion of Old Weller Antique 107, which is really interesting.
― Mister Jim, Thursday, 12 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry. Here's the fixed link.
― Mister Jim, Thursday, 12 November 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know why it's not working. Here's the address:
http://www.bourbonreviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6456&sid=f19fd0cc51bf59ff6ecbbaee80f3f3a5
― Mister Jim, Thursday, 12 November 2009 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah mark i always check laphroaig prices and $55 is abt the best you're gonna do.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 November 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link
oh my god do they talk in code on that bourbon board
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
cad how much is the yamazaki around your place?
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i wanna say it was $48.99?
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
oh okay that's cheaper than here. I think it's pretty good but dunno if it's worth the price
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i will fully admit i'm a sucker both for rad bottles and unusual/novel products
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.drinkupny.com/Black_Maple_Hill_Bourbon_p/s0471.htm
GUYS HAVE YOU HAD THIS?
― Meatcat (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
NO IS IT GOOD
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
YES IT IS SWEET. V V CARAMEL-Y
― Meatcat (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link
TELL ME MORE MY INTEREST HAS BEEN AROUSED
― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I GET IT @ SMITH & VINE IN BROOKLYN. THEY SAY THEY CAN'T ALWAYS GET IT. IT IS A REASONABLY PRICED UNIQUE BOURBON.
― Meatcat (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 13 November 2009 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link
IT PLAYS WELL OVER ICE. IT'S A V V GOOD NIGHTCAP WHISKEY BCUZ IT IS SO SWEET
I had Black Maple Hill at Tza's place when she lived in wburg before she abandoned us for the west coast. it was good but I had it on New Years Eve too late in the evening to have a real opinion
― dmr, Friday, 13 November 2009 04:33 (fourteen years ago) link
swear to god that shit is rufied.
srsly EVERY time i drank from that bottle i got wasted or felt woozy.
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:34 (fourteen years ago) link
at first i thought it was really crazy bc of the nye thing...
but upon subsequent drinkings i felt totally knackered after like 2 sips. i see it in the stores here sometimes but i don't think i could bring myself to get it.
― tehresa, Friday, 13 November 2009 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I bought a cheap scotch because i had been drinking bourbon all year and felt obligated to make a change. But there was a valid reason for only drinking bourbon all year: I really really like bourbon. I'll go get some tomorrow.
― derrrick, Friday, 13 November 2009 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link
ha i'm the other way round, usually drink scotch then decided i wanted bourbon for a change but over here in the uk they're abt the same price. so it's like - i could get maker's mark or some single malt... i got the single malt.
― just sayin, Friday, 13 November 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Fuck. three Makers Olde Fashioneds. Gonna be a long Friday.
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 13 November 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I brought back a bottle of the Black Maple Hill from my NYC trip in the summer and really don't think it's anything special. Sorry, lolbrits etc.
― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Friday, 13 November 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Been working on a bottle of Old Rip Van Winkle, aged 10 years, 90 proof. A generous pour with one ice cube is perfect. Caramel, cherry vanilla, a hint of smoke and then a nice slow burning tingle on the end. This is a very good wheater, but lately I've been more in the mood for the intensity that only 107 proofers can offer.
Black Maple Hill has just started popping up on my radar in the last couple of weeks. Something about the packaging made me reluctant to try it though. But it is reasonably priced, so maybe I'll give it a shot next time.
― Mister Jim, Saturday, 14 November 2009 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Picked up some Ardbeg in Edinburgh last week. Holy shit my new favorite scotch in that price range.
― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Saturday, 14 November 2009 09:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i am now the owner of a bottle of michter's bourbon, and it's really, really nice
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Sunday, 15 November 2009 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
So I went for Bulleit and I am so happy about it. A beautiful bottle too.
― derrrick, Sunday, 15 November 2009 10:16 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man guys i'm in deep. i now own this:
and this:
http://s2.thisnext.com/media/230x230/Tuthilltown-Spirits-Hudson_489A208D.jpg
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link
have just ummm inherited about 10 bottles of whisky. will upload a picture of them in the morning. and that was just what i could carry, there are like 40 mo' bottles of booze for me to go through. 2010 gonna be looking up.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought alcohol was a downer?
― tehresa, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link
ohh those hudson whiskey bottles are the coolest
― mark cl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
cad where did you make your purchases?
― mark cl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
whisky doing a good job of keeping me warm right now
― 囧 (dyao), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
the michter's came from downtown liquors in somerville. the hudson came from julio's liquors in westborough which stocks just about every whiskey i could think of--lots of four roses (which people apparently like a lot), lots of van winkle, even the old portero and rogue stuff from the west coast. they had laphroaig for $52! massive store and pretty close to my office.
so i know i've been psyched about everything itt recently but the hudson rye is like really, really good. sweet and spicy, lots of complexity, great aroma. i just sipped it neat last night (after almost killing myself trying to get the wax seal off) but want to try making manhattans with it soon. must be used judiciously though--tiny bottle and v. expensive.
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
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― Cleveland Spider Cupid Childs (los blue jeans), Sunday, 22 November 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
<3
― tehresa, Sunday, 22 November 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link
had some eagle rare last night, good stuff
I like the Hudson Baby. a lot of my friends hate all of em though. the Hudson Four Grain is kinda weird, I don't think I'd ever buy a bottle (someone gave it to me). haven't tried the Rye.
― dmr, Monday, 23 November 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Damn. Bought Bulleit but agree with Mister Jim. Will have to be a mixer.
― ljubljana, Saturday, 28 November 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
drinking knob creek @ mom's house right now.
― ian, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link
(xpost) Bulleit makes a great mixer! Been leaning toward the Old Weller 107 for that recently, though, damn hard to beat for $20/bottle.
ljubljana, have you been to Bourbon yet? Local bar w/ a great selection including some really unusual bottles, and the higher proof stuff may be more palatable to a scotch drinker. The owner there has me stuck on uncut & unfiltered bourbons & ryes, which run 130-140 proof. You can always add water to a bourbon, but once it's cut you can't take it out.
― I DIED, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i want to go to there.
― tehresa, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, been to Bourbon many times, it's a co-worker hangout, but only for beers. Now it's fall, more off the beers and more onto actual bourbon, so time to go back and try the serious stuff. Thanks for the tip (duh, should have considered the name, maybe)
― ljubljana, Saturday, 28 November 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Damn. Bought Bulleit but agree with Mister Jim. Will have to be a mixer.― ljubljana, Friday, November 27, 2009 6:47 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
― ljubljana, Friday, November 27, 2009 6:47 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
(xpost) Bulleit makes a great mixer! Been leaning toward the Old Weller 107 for that recently, though, damn hard to beat for $20/bottle.― I DIED, Friday, November 27, 2009 7:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Yeah, kind of agree with this, but it's the best thing I'd use as a mixer, and I'd order it alone in a bar in a heartbeat. I didn't think it was GREAT on my first try after finishing off bottles of strong-ass Booker's, or Baker's, which is pretty sweet but definitely good, so it kind of bored me. After a few more rounds of it, though, it's an excellent value bourbon.
I have yet to try any of the Old Wellers, though. I better make a trip soon and try and cop some.
― throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Saturday, 28 November 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Drank a whole bottle of 4 roses during thanksgiving dinner. Delightfully smooth and mellow. Maybe the best 80 proof bourbon on the market.
Went with the four roses single barrel last night. Definitely had more of a charred oak flavor than it's cheaper brethren, but also hotter and stronger, while still smooth. Nice, but not worth the price really, compared to OWA 107 or Bakers or Van Winkle Lot B.
― Mister Jim, Saturday, 5 December 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link
who's celebrating repeal day tomorrow? i'm probably not, but i wish you well.
― werner herzog eats a cookie (get bent), Saturday, 5 December 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
whoa mister jim how did you feel the day after thanksgiving
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 December 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link
This was the over the course of 11 hours, and the trick is to drink plenty of water as well. And while I'd say I was somewhat lethargic the next day, it wasn't that bad. I've been more hungover after drinking much less.
― Mister Jim, Saturday, 5 December 2009 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
what is repeal day? does that mean tax free?
― tehresa, Saturday, 5 December 2009 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link
repeal day was when prohibition was repealed -- dec. 5, 1933.
― werner herzog eats a cookie (get bent), Saturday, 5 December 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link
picked up highland park just now, haven't tried. noticed that one of the few bourbons my place had was four roses! and for less than half the price of the highland park! gonna go back soon, I guess.
― 囧 (dyao), Sunday, 6 December 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
highland park is my default single malt here in glasgow - its generally available, tastes real good and is not much more expensive than say a bottle of JD
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link
my uncle has a theory that highland park is a bargain in the US because it sounds like the name of a housing project, rather than some mystical loch.
― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Sunday, 6 December 2009 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I must test your uncle's theory.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 6 December 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Highland Park is a lower middle class, largely Hispanic neighborhood in LA. I don't think the distillery is there.
― Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 6 December 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Same for Pittsburgh, although without the hispanic.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 6 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i used to live by highland park in Rochester and it was beautiful!
― tehresa, Sunday, 6 December 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I went to a big repeal day party here in DC - pretty much all the best bartenders in the area, plus Dale DeGroff & Jeffrey Morgenthaler. It was great.
― I DIED, Sunday, 6 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
wow highland park is great - very drinkable neat, I don't think I'm gonna have this on ice at all
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, 7 December 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Van Winkle 12 y.o.
Oh my goodness, it is wonderful.
― Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
holding a bourbon tasting tonight w/friends iirc. van winkle 12 is one of the ones i'm strongly considering bringing to it.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I am a big fan of Van Winkle
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Its solidly my favorite, in a really, really competitive division of booze.
― Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i have still never had it!
― tehresa, Saturday, 12 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
This Weller Special Reserve is astoundingly good for the price! going to try to use it to convert a bunch of Maker's Mark loving heathens into people that pay appropriate $$ for alcohol this evening.
― just pretend i am my dog and you will agree with me more (jjjusten), Saturday, 12 December 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread makes me sad because almost none of these fine beverages is available in Pennsylvania, and when stuff does turn up it is scandalously expensive. Liquor store had Sazerac which is acceptable but not great for close on 60 bucks.
need to bribe someone to make a run down to west virginia
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 12 December 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Liquor store had Sazerac which is acceptable but not great for close on 60 bucks.
wow really? It's much cheaper in NYC (not too often I get to say that!) .... actually that $60 price seems completely wrong, was it maybe the Sazerac 18 year?
has anyone had Ezra Brooks (or "Ezra B." as it says on the bottle)? looked interesting but I wanted something a little less expensive. ended up getting Elijah Craig 12 year which I'm liking, seems pretty good for the price.
Van Winkle is also my all time fave although George T. Stagg and Bookers are not far behind.
― dmr, Saturday, 12 December 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah or was it a really giant bottle? that seems insane for sazerac!
― tehresa, Sunday, 13 December 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link
is van winkle similar in taste/finish to stagg? bc if so must try asap.
PA state liquor is nuts, they had regular sazerac and some kind of fancy sazerac next to each other on the shelf and priced the same.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 13 December 2009 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
The Van Winkle 12 we're talking about is "lot b" right? That stuff is delicious. Anyone ever try the super aged (20 or 23 year) Pappy Van Winkle? I'm really curious about it, but it's super pricey and I heard that aging bourbon that long doesn't necessarily do it any favors. Heard it begins to take on a strong char or oak taste rather than a traditional bourbon flavor.
Also would love to try the George T. Stagg, but that's running like $100 a bottle at the only liquor store I've seen it.
Also Weller's Special Reserve is indeed a great thing to introduce to a Maker's Mark fan, as it is my understanding that Makers is kind of a cheap substitute for Wellers in the same way Jack Daniels is a cheap substitute for Dickel. Cheap, of course, doesn't refer to the price but to how it's made. Though some say Van Winkle gave Makers the original Weller recipe, which they allegedly follow. http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2009/10/more-makers-anyone.html
― Mister Jim, Sunday, 13 December 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
finished 1/2 a bottle of Rebel Yell last night at a friend's birthday party.
― derrrick, Sunday, 13 December 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The older Pappy Van Winkles are good! Suggest trying it at a bar before springing for a bottle, though. Really a bummer that they're not bottle at cask strength, or at least as a higher proof. At that age range I'm a huge fan of the Willett bourbons and ryes, esp. the 16-year malt bomb bottled last year.
― I DIED, Sunday, 13 December 2009 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
For Christmas, my girlfriend got me a bottle of William LaRue Weller, barrel proof at 125.3, part of the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection. I finally got around to opening it the other day and this shit is really really great. Lots of heat, yet smooth, sweet and a bit woody. Trying to make it last a while by doing no more than 1 pour of it in any given session.
Otherwise I've been on a bit of a rye kick lately, going with Wild Turkey Rye and Rittenhouse, which are both good values. In terms of Bourbon, turns out the Old Grand Dad BIB is a really good value rye bourbon. Also recently tried some Eagle Rare single barrel, 10 year 90 proof which I wasn't blown away by, but will definitely need to taste again.
― Mister Jim, Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link
evan williams is kind of an amazing deal!bulleit is up to 29.95 for 750ml here. :(
― tehresa, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
my friend went to Japan over christmas and brought me back a small bottle of 10 year single malt - nikko I think it's called? haven't tried it because, as usual, it is wrapped in exquisite japanese packaging and I don't want to ruin it
― Player is killed, but they are resurrected, and the 45 Revolver glow gold (dyao), Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I picked up some Four Roses and it's pretty good. very...smokey? doesn't go well with ice but very good neat
― Player is killed, but they are resurrected, and the 45 Revolver glow gold (dyao), Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
so when was the last time you had a dickel in your mouth?
― tehresa, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
The '99 Evan Williams Single Barrel is a fav for sure and good value at about $30. And the regular stuff is pretty good too and at half the price of Beam white label, so yeah... amazing deal there.
Didn't detect smoke on the 4 roses I had, maybe some char on the single barrel, but I haven't tried all of their expressions. Anyway, yeah, you want their 80 proof version neat for sure. Most whiskies at that proof won't stand up to ice cubes.
Old Rip Van Winkle 10/90 is like my favorite pour right now.
― Mister Jim, Saturday, 9 January 2010 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link
oy vey, tza. i think it's 19.99 down here at tj's. my father-in-law was digging it when he stayed here for xmas
― velko, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god maybe i should move again.
― tehresa, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link
my sc friend's dad owns a liquor store and she sold me some at cost which ended up being like 21.95 but there was really no good way to try to stock up and bring it back w/ me.
― tehresa, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:03 (fourteen years ago) link
had Rittenhouse last night at the bbq joint. Great value for sure. I think the next bottle I buy will be Booker's, unless something else at the shop jumps out at me.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
All the friggin Irish coffee I had after midnight last night was probably a bad idea.
― mh, Sunday, 10 January 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i cannot find rittenhouse around here for the life of me; it's annoying
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 January 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
you know what, after perusing their online catalog, i think i'm gonna take a long-ish walk this afternoon to try a new liquor store as apparently i can get both rittenhouse & weller 12 yr there for under $20 apiece.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
ended up getting the weller Antique cuz it was just two dollars more than the 12 year. and the rittenhouse, which was $15. amazing deal.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
wow what store?liquor here is $$$$ but i guess that's good cause it makes me drink less.
― tehresa, Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
BQE Wine & Liquors on Meeker & Humboldt!
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
is it too early to start drinking y/n
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
y imo
― tehresa, Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
oh that place was great! so cheap!xpost
it's almost 4pm here!!!!
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
and i have two brand new bottles of whiskey!!
wait til 5
FINE.
it's five o'clock somewhere.
― Mister Jim, Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
It's a little before 3:00 here, I can start drinking rum so you don't look so bad.
― Miss Bannister (╓abies), Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
if i had a plate of eggs in front of me, it would be perfectly acceptable to drink a bloody mary or some bullshit so why can't i just start sippin whiskey. i just wanna taste the weller tbh, and hope i like it.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
initial impressions of the old weller antique 107 are mixed and not entirely favorable. extremely sweet up front with a vague medicinal taste to the otherwise nice & slow finish. maybe it'll grow on me.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
also you can really smell the booze in this thing.
i had the weller 90 recently and was def not crazy about it
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
received a bottle of http://www.sixthseal.com/archive/November2005/shine_on_georgia_moon_corn_whiskey.jpg for Christmas.
will not be drinking
― smashing aspirant (milo z), Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i see that in the store and it scares me
― tehresa, Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
old weller antique fares a bit better over ice, but basically tastes like a thicker & maybe even sweeter makers to me.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
ew
― tehresa, Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah. oh well. at least i got that bottle of rittenhouse <3 my roommates can have at the weller tbh.
― Joint Custody (ian), Sunday, 10 January 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i bet this would be good with ginger ale tho.
That corn whiskey should have a whole mess of cherries sunk in it. And then left in the sun for a few months. Foreals. Amazing.
I got a bottle of Jameson 12 y.o. last night. Fuck, that is some deadly smooth shit. My buddy and I killed half a bottle without even blinking.
― Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Got the Weller's special reserve. Like it, but it feels suuuuuper-sweet - maybe just because the last bourbon I had was the Bulleit?
― ljubljana, Friday, 12 March 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Suntory Yamazaki 12 yr is nummers
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 12 March 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link
whiskey has new answers
Whiskey always has new answers...
― nickn, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
maker's mark is crap isn't it
― am0n, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
yes
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link
if you need a wheated bourbon buy weller's and save yrself like 15 bucks
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't had any Weller in ages at this point, but it's definitely on the sweet end of the bourbon spectrum. That's generally the way with wheated bourbons. What I like about the Special Reserve compared to Makers Mark is that the Wellers tastes like a complete bourbon to me, ie it actually has a finish, unlike Makers Mark. And I do like Makers well enough. It's a perfectly fine bourbon to sip neat, but I think its strength, in terms of mass appeal, is that its flavor is pretty subdued. I prefer a bolder bourbon, whether that's sweeter, hotter, or spicier. But its by no means a bad bourbon, imo.
Recently resampled Bulleit, and didn't think it was as bad as I used to, now think its perfectly adequate, but that's still not a very interesting drink either, imo.
Also I'm pretty disappointed in Rittenhouse Rye. Tastes more like a rye bourbon to me than a rye whisky. I don't know. I feel like I've tasted bourbons with stronger rye flavor than that. I mean if I'm drinking rye, I really want that spicy rye flavor to be pretty strong, and in the Rittenhouse it just doesn't seem to be. I guess if I think of it as a bourbon though, it's pretty good. But again if I'm drinking rye, I don't want to drink something that doesn't, in my opinion, taste like rye.
― Mister Jim, Friday, 12 March 2010 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting--rittenhouse is like my white whale at this point (nb i mostly want it for cocktails, some of which would really benefot from a 100 proof rye). i talked to the owner of a pretty big liquor store with a great whiskey selection about it--apparently in the last bottling a grand total of two cases were allotted to my state. i guess i need to travel....somewhere.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
makers is a fine dtd whiskey but there's really no point in spending 35-45$ for a bottle of makers over any boutique label
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 12 March 2010 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
The rittenhouse I had is at 80 proof. A litle research tells me they have a bottled in bond version at 100 proof, so maybe that's the one everyone likes so much.
― Mister Jim, Friday, 12 March 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
ahhh yes i'm looking for the bottled in bond
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I've been looking for that locally forever. Going to have to break down and order online, I guess.
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Friday, 12 March 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
BOTTLED IN BOND IS THE BEST THING FOR ME TO HAVE LEARNED TODAY AND IT IS ONLY 12:04 AM!
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 12 March 2010 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link
SERIOUSLY TELL ME MORE AND GIVE ME A LIST TO BUY!
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 12 March 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Lol. Speaking of bottled in bond, Old Grandad BIB is probably one of my top 5 whiskies right now. Kinda Peppery with an amazing candy apple body. And at about $20 a bottle is a pretty amazing deal. Don't be put off by the garish orange label.
― Mister Jim, Friday, 12 March 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Though honestly I don't think many distilleries use the bib designation too often anymore.
― Mister Jim, Friday, 12 March 2010 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a bottle (half bottle lol) of noah's mill! I'm drinking it now! It's 114.proof but I don't know if it has the DISTINCION *hic*
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 12 March 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
100 proof rittenhouse is definitely the one that everyone likes
― just sayin, Friday, 12 March 2010 08:44 (fourteen years ago) link
In the last few weeks I've tried and very much liked Caol Ila, Highland Park (very smoky), Jura (10 year - very smooth) & a Bowmore (a real strong mixture of flavours that I couldn't necessarily articulate yet).
Trying to get through my cheap bottle of Famous Grouse that I bought at New Years so that I can actually replace it with something decent.
― krakow, Friday, 12 March 2010 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link
bowmore is great. i also need to get a new malt soon. got some anCnoc left, which i'm really enjoying, and a laphroaig 10 that i'm having a hard time getting through tbh, kinda worn out on that one at the moment
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 12 March 2010 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Recommend Scapa. I think it's the most delicate single malt I've had.
― ljubljana, Friday, 12 March 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
caol ila is amazing. got a bottle of the 12yr for xmas. super smokey, but super smooth.
friend had a scotch tasting party at his office. everyone was supposed to bring a bottle that was >$30. we tried to get at least one from each area (lowland, speyside, highland, campbeltown, and islay). in the end we all graded them out of 5. here's the breakdown:
Caol Ila 4.56Glen Scotia 4.42Glen Keith 4.37Aberlour 4.13Glenfiddich 4Ardmore 3.97Singleton 3.96Macallan 3.93Glen Moray 3.5
i had been searching for the ardmore traditional cask because of an article i'd read on it, but when i finally was able to taste it, i didn't like it. i brought the singleton.
i also really LOVED the glen keith
― jaxon, Friday, 12 March 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link
recently picked up Basil Hayden bourbon. i think it's ok. i think i wanted something a lil sweeter.
and the wife got a bottle of Hibiki japanese whiskey. pretty good.
― jaxon, Friday, 12 March 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
― am0n, Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
Really? I love the stuff. I love Bulleit too.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 12 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
basil hayden is nice enough but super-mild imo. not sure if it's worth it for the price. bulleit i thought was pretty good.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I only know three of those. I love malts so I'll definitely check out the top 3. Got a slew of whisky at my PhD party so I'm still good though :)Personal favourites are Old Puteney, Dalwhinnie, Lagavullin (depending on mood/occasion). For hardcore peat-lovers I recommend trying some Ardberg. A real WTF when you first taste it but persistence pays off imo.All the american suggestions on this thread make me want to check out some bourbons - any of you guys got a tip for a peaty whisky lover?
― willem, Friday, 12 March 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Have enjoyed a few Booker's Manhattans this week. The higher proof bourbon makes all the difference in the world. If a bar doesn't have the 125 - 133 proof Booker's (bottled straight from the barrel, so it varies in proof), Turkey will do the trick at a mere 101 proof.
I had a feeling this thread would rear its caramel colored, barrel aged head this afternoon.
― Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 12 March 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
A friend brought me some Longmorn as a housewarming present. I rate it very drinkable.
― mh, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
that grading upthread is also sorta off because not everyone tried every type
― jaxon, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Sunday night was a wee try of Laphroaig. I can't really articulate what it tasted like, very complex and potent; I liked it very much though.
― krakow, Monday, 15 March 2010 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I wondered if that might be a resin-y taste?
― krakow, Monday, 15 March 2010 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link
peaty
― mh, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I can definitely taste the differences in flavours, but don't know which terms best apply all the time.
― krakow, Monday, 15 March 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh my God I am in love with Laphroaig 10! Just picked up a bottle of that plus Pappy Van Winkle 15 plus a bottle of Old Grand Dad BIB, and I am so happy right now. I'm going to have to start exploring the world of single malts. But don't know where to begin. Need to check out Lagavulin, I guess. Laphroaig has sold me on the Islays.
Also tried Rittenhouse Rye BIB since the last thread revive, and it is definitely better than the RR 80 proof. Definitely a pretty good whiskey, but I'm not sure it outclasses the wild turkey rye for me, when I'm in the mood for a rye whiskey. And for that matter, I think the Old Grand Dad BIB, like Bulleit, tastes like a smoother more delicious Wild Turkey Rye.
Top 5 favorite whiskies at the moment:
1) Old Rip Van Winkle 10/902) Pappy Van Winkle 153) Laphroiag 104) Bakers5) Old Grand Dad BIB
― Mister Jim, Thursday, 22 April 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
drank a glass of ardbeg 1977 last night with a cuban cigar. a+++ would do this again.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 April 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
cigar soaked in whisky sounds quite gross tbh.
― dyªº (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
accompanied by
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link
:)
noticed the other day that laphroiag 25 is £140 a bottle
I wish
― cozen, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link
;o)
― dyªº (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Would buying your own bottle & letting it just sit there for 15 years have the same effect?
― Walter Melon (Abbott), Monday, 26 April 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
nope--no aging once it's in the bottle
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I have been wondering that for years. Thank you for your answer.
― Walter Melon (Abbott), Monday, 26 April 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it's the prolonged contact with the wood barrel that induces the changes in the whiskey.
finally found a pub that sells Four Roses (small batch and single barrel), but it's two hours away. On the plus side, they have hotel rooms available so we can book one, drink, go upstairs, and fall asleep.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Monday, 26 April 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Have bought some single cask unfiltered stuff in chicago. Half way down a bottle of Aberfeldt, which is surprisingly light and sweet. I have a caol ila 17 year old which I am really looking forward to. Binny's on Chicago av is a treasure trove, especially when compared to the pisspoor PA state liquor selection.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 26 April 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link
It's amazing how much the state laws make a difference in the US in terms of what is available.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Monday, 26 April 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link
elijah craig 1.75L $32 => virginia's good for something
― W i l l, Friday, 30 April 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Maker's 46 is good, but probably not enough bang for the buck.
― mh, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
havilg just looked @ what that is, itseems kinda pointless tbh?
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
going on a little vaca this weekend, anyone have a thought for a good not-too-expensive whiskey to take along?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
buffalo, maybe.
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not pointless in theory, in that it's a variation on a known whiskey -- hell, half the mid/top whiskey shelves in supermarkets are just Evan Williams Single Barrel and Gentleman Jack and other variations on the regular products that are just given special treatment.
But yeah, it's somehow smoother at 94 proof than the regular stuff, which didn't have too much of a harshness to begin with.
― mh, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
so i picked up a bottle of four roses single barrel that was apparently selected specifically for the whiskey club at this big liquor store near my work. excited!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link
My mum is heading to Florida next week and I asked her to see if she can pick up some Bourbon, Rye or other US Whiskey for me that I can't find over here in the UK.
What would be some good, but easy to find, varieties that I could let her know to keep an eye out for? She's not a whiskey drinker herself so will only put minimal effort into this endeavour, so easy to find is important.
In the UK I can already get Maker's Mark, Buffalo Trace & Jim Beam without hassle (all of which I enjoy btw).
If I could get a Rye Whiskey that would be especially great, as I can't find that in the UK at all easily. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
― krakow, Saturday, 7 August 2010 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link
A little google research leads me to Total Wine & More having plenty of branches in the Florida area. Looks like if I can get her to visit one of those briefly then job's a good un!?
I could theoretically get Woodford Reserve or Bulleit Bourbon here in the UK, which I've been wanting to try, but looking at the US prices they could be a good (and I presume easy to find) idea if there's nothing more adventurous to hand...
― krakow, Saturday, 7 August 2010 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link
man, i am down to the last glass or so of a bottle caol ila 12 and the remains of a bottle of jameson i was gifted. sad times.
― thomp, Saturday, 7 August 2010 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link
krakow--the rittenhouse bottled in bond rye is what you want. it's super cheap although i'm not seeing it in that total wine and more inventory. from that store, have you ever had booker's? or be adventurous and get some high-proof old grand dad or something.
but if yr mom is going to be near a large-ish city she can probably find someplace with a better selection. is she staying in a hotel or anything where she'd be able to ask someone?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 August 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks very much call all!
I've never tried Booker's, nor Old Grand Dad. I'll take a wee peek at those and the Rittenhouse Rye. Cheap is definitely a good thing too as she'll baulk at anything expensive, even if I promise to pass her the money later.
She'll be in a hotel somewhere in the vicinity of Walt Disney World, I believe, but is heading to stay with friends elsewhere as well for a day or two, not sure on the specifics.
― krakow, Saturday, 7 August 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
one more thought for you--the new maker's mark 46 is not available outside the states yet afaik, but should be easy for her to find.
i actually JUST found a bottle of old grand dad 100 proof today--i'll crack it open later and update.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 August 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
old grand dad bonded update: this stuff is brutal. in a good way. if you want to know what bourbon was like before it got fancy, before small batch, before pretty bottles, this will tell you. would need to be cut before i could sip it, but my mint julep is killa.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 8 August 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I filled a txt with suggestions of names to keep an eye out for, so we'll have to see how maw gets along in a week.
― krakow, Sunday, 8 August 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i've just started getting into rye. second rittenhouse. old overholt from jim beam is also common and cheap, and a good starting point for getting a taste of a rye and making cocktails. also had nice sips from high west and templeton, but they're pricier.
― my objective was to get the ham (another al3x), Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anyone had russell or jefferson? There are a million bourbons I've never heard of at my local abc store but I'm scared to invest in 750 ml bottles I don't know.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i have had a glass of jefferson that someone else owned--it was good
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link
(oh that looks weird, i just mean i have not owned a bottle myself)
I got what you meant :) how would you describe it?
― tehresa, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
anybody know anything about hudson reserve?
― dyao, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
uh, not hudson reserve. hudson manhattan. or something.
I'm in the same boat as krakow - 'bout to leave the country soon and want to take a bottle back. the local liquor shop underwent a total makeover, seem like every 2 cent liquor shop is carrying boutique liquors nowadays.
― dyao, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I've heard good things about the hudsons but I have never had them.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i had a bottle of the hudson manhattan rye. it's really interesting stuff and i found it better as a sipper than for manhattans (which is its ostensible purpose). too much going on to be a really good mixing liquor. but nice on its own. my caveat is that it's as expensive as a lot of 750 ml bottles but you're getting half as much. if you wanted a really nice rye i'd track down the sazerac 18-yo first.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
re jefferson: to the best of my recollection it was smooth and refined with no overly outre flavors--nice for sipping definitely.
hi come drink pikesville SUPREME straight rye whiskey with me
― a man without his raincoat (another al3x), Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
ok
― the girl with the butt tattoo (harbl), Thursday, 12 August 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link
so cad what kind of rye would be 'representative' of rye whiskey in general?
― dyao, Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
imo rittenhouse 100 proof is what you want. the 6 year old sazerac is also v. well regarded though i've never tried it and haven't seen it in stores up here for months.
if you can't find either of those, there's nothing wrong with old overholt (it just comes in a little weaker @ 80 proof). by all accounts you want to avoid jim beam rye, and wild turkey rye didn't do it for me.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i've had the 6 yr sazerac, it's really nice, a lot smoother than the rittenhouse (iirc) so it kinda depends what yr into
― just sayin, Thursday, 12 August 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
bought a bottle of 100 proof rittenhouse today. only $20. thanks cad!
― dyao, Saturday, 14 August 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I found a nice (new to me) shop in town that has a few more American whiskeys beyond the usual supermarket fodder (basically Jim Beam & Jack Daniels here in the UK). The prices though... ouch.
They actually have a bottle of Sazerac 18 Year Old (Fall 2009). I'd love to try that, but it's £100. George T Stagg for £115 as well. Dreams...
― krakow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 07:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anyone tried either of those, the Sazerac 18 Year Old or George T Stagg? I'm a fan of Jim Murray and his whisky bible and he raves about previous year's incarnations of both.
― krakow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 08:00 (thirteen years ago) link
just double checked--my sazerac 18 is the fall '09 bottling. it's fantastic. but i paid £45 for it according to the currency converter.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
(the equiv of, i should say)
Jealous face.
― krakow, Saturday, 14 August 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yo cad, this rittenhouse is nice. do you take it with water? any good simple cocktails made with rye (besides manhattans)?
― dyao, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
my fave whiskey based cocktail is a 'double'. you get a good whiskey, (tho it can be made with a bad whiskey, at a pinch) and you add one part whiskey to one part whiskey et voila.
― k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
if I meet you dmac I'll stand you a double of macallan 12 year and seagram, but you gotta mix them
― dyao, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
a sazerac is a classic rye cocktail (that is awesome) but you'll need a specific type of bitters, and also some absinthe...
you could make an old fashioned?
― just sayin, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was gonna say i don't usually drink rye straight (and i don't usually mix bourbon). but if i did, i would def add a splash of water to the rittenhouse since it's 100 proof.
my preference is a simple rye old fashioned--sugar in whatever form you like, about 4 dashes of bitters, a couple ice cubes, and a lemon twist.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
glad you like it btw dyao!
bribery will get you everywhere tbh
― k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
hah I'm doing an informal a/bing of rittenhouse and four roses bourbon and it's quite interesting. also need to open this bottle of 'yoichi' single malt by nikka whiskey that my friend got for me in japan. i love whiskey whiskey whisky whisky whiskey whiskey would skey
― dyao, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
wrong thread i know but i just got a bottle of glenfarclas 105 (which i tried at the whisky fringe last weekend, i don't remember much of it but it had "OMG KEN BUY ME! BUY ME! DO IT" in the notes! so it must have been very good??? i was too trashed 'sampling' the aberfeldy 21 and port ellen 1979 that i can never afford).
look forward to drinking it!
― HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i fucking love four roses small batch and single barrel
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
you guys hear the dude on the Today programme this morning, who says he's invented a fuel made from whiskey distillation byproducts - that can go directly into your unmodified gas tank??
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
it may be these guys - http://www.heliusenergy.com/
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
if it means more whiskey then i support it!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
"we have to keep churning out delicious whiskey or else!!!"
i'm doing my bit for the planet hic
― k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
rye is also good with ginger beer
― a man without his raincoat (another al3x), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes! I feel guilty doing that with expensive rye, but w/beam or whatever it is awesome
― turtles all the way down (mh), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
alternating between sips of rittenhouse and four roses. both are good. very good. yeah.
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel that after a certain price point you really can't move up anymore in whiskies. you just move laterally. they are all good. they all deserve love. whiskey and whisky should be loved by all.
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
if there's anyone on here who doesn't like whisk(e)y, please let yourselves be known. then escort yourselves out. get out. out.
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i forgot jsut how much I genuinely like whiskey!― whatever (nordicskilla), Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:28 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark
nordicskilla otm. me too. I forgot. until now.
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
got a bottle of laphroaig last week
sort of neglected it before as an 'obvious' choice that i'd get round to eventually
didn't expect it to be quite ~that~ full-flavoured, it's as if they got a cubic mile of hebridean air/sea/soil and compressed it into 75cl
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe I will pick some up, that laphraig. there's a surprisingly good liquor shop near my flat, surprisingly good for HK at least. they have a good selection. 3 different kinds of highland park, 3 different vintages of nikka japanese whiskey. maybe they have laphroaig. I will check. it has a good selection for HK, which is pretty much a dry city. almost all of the people here only drink cheap beer. really cheap.
― shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd like to get more american whiskies but the prices are usually stupid here
searching for cheapest four roses (-tax) = £19, in america £11
rittehouse 23 yr = £185, £95 in US
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Bruichladdich is my favorite.
http://www.laddieshop.com/acatalog/shop.html
― Jarlrmai, Saturday, 4 September 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
my man.
flask of rittenhouse for the wedding i attended yesterday. ordering ginger ales from the cash bar.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 September 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
how does Laphroaig compare with Glenfiddich, anyone?
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
favourably
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
will drink
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
a lot of briny, peaty flavours. i kinda wanted to try it after a bottle of connemara whiskey which is ireland's only peated single malt or something (double distilled iirc so more like a scotch iirc). laphroaig is more intense and probably not something you'd drink too often without getting sick of it.
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but is it good with coke?
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i prefer the glenny
― i am legernd (history mayne), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link
laphroaig and a few lines would be standard issue shithead junior analyst at deustche bank boring sunday night stuff. coca cola on the other hand mixes nicely with islay malts and is sure to impress in any company.
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Laphroaig, like other southern Islay malts (Lagavulin, Ardbeg), isn't for mixing. Its tar, smoke, iodine, a medicine cabinet in a bottle. Bracing. Glenfiddich is "accessible", and hence accounts for 35% of single-malt export sales.
I've never thought of mixing a single-malt. That's what Famous Grouse is for.
― your message can reach dozens (Sanpaku), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like the 'froig is kinda parodically earthy
― i am legernd (history mayne), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
(was kidding about the mixing)
will be trying laphroaig anyway, but i'd be lying if i didn't say the 'accessibility' was a large part of why i enjoyed glenfiddich so much.
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
idk if it's about the taste or the company's sales strategy
― i am legernd (history mayne), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I mixed rittenhouse earlier tonight 1:2 with water and it was a treat
― grandma: smells and textures :: 180 (dayo), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
finished the four roses, wondering what to replace it with. think I prefer bourbon/rye to scotch these days. but laphraig sounds exactly what I want. no more tame single malt scotches.
Laphroaig is like drinking seawater. kind of fun.
Glenfiddich has a smoother taste. depends what you like really.
― HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
laphroaig is definitely the opposite of tame
― just sayin, Monday, 6 September 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i was thinking it tasted more like dirt than seawater
― just sayin, Monday, 6 September 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
(in a good way)
"boss? got sales on line 1. they want a word about the new guy"
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
laphroaig smells like bandaids to me
i like it
― pun gent (another al3x), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Lagavulin goes nicely with Irn-Bru, a delicate carbonated beverage popular in Western Scotland. The lichen and tarwater overtones of the whisky are gently accentuated by its citric/ferric charms.
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
irn bru is aged in rusted barrels at the back of a family run industrial estate, giving it a delightful finishing kick .
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Rusted by skilled artisans for many generations, learnt father to son.
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Laphroaig is just too muddy for my tastes. I don't mind slightly peaty whiskys like Talisker, but that's where I draw the line I think.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
it has a good selection for HK, which is pretty much a dry city. almost all of the people here only drink cheap beer. really cheap.
hey dyao I'm likely to visit HK again in spring let me know if you want me to bring a bottle of something back. royal mile whisky shop is down the road so should be able to pick up most scotch
― HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
has anyone gone in on this white dog shit? i'm sure this has been discussed
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
irn bru is aged in rusted barrels at the back of a family run industrial estate, giving it a delightful finishing kick .― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:46 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the water that runs along the glasgow SPT river also helps with the flavour
― HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Irn-Bru is famous for its bright orange colour. As of 1999 it contained 0.002% of ammonium ferric citrate, sugar, 32 flavouring agents (including caffeine—though caffeine is not listed as an ingredient on the Australian labelling—and quinine) and two controversial colourings (E110, E124). On 27 January 2010, AG Barr agreed to a Food Standards Agency voluntary ban on these two colourants, though have not set a date for when they will be replaced.[1] The beverage is advertised as having a slight citrus flavour, but many have differing opinions of the exact taste of Irn-Bru.
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
It is also the third best selling soft drink in the UK, after Coca-Cola and Pepsi, outselling high-profile brands such as Fanta, Dr Pepper, Sprite and 7-Up.
gonna stop derailing this vital thread, but O_o
― k¸ (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Monday, September 6, 2010 10:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
sweet! remind me again/I will facebook you when/if your fb status indicates your impending arrival
― grandma: smells and textures :: 180 (dayo), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
the one time I had IRN BRU I thought it was pretty boss. would drink again.
today i got a bottle of glenlivet 12yr in tesco, not hugely impressed as yet tho
reduced to £20, laphroaig 10yr is £23
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i would drink laphroaig over livet any day
― pun gent (another al3x), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
hmm must get up to the north again soon to stock up tbh
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Not much of a whisk(e)y drinker but I had a Balvenie not long ago that was memorable.
― Un peu d'Eire, ça fait toujours Dublin (Michael White), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i am literally drinking balvenie right now. very good it is too.
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
glenlivet just seems too generic right now
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
first world problems
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
the first with the thirst
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
oh god, this insanely expensive tasty alcohol is appreciated by just too many similarly rich europeans :(
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
t's ubiquitous, you literally can not go ANYWHERE without drinkig this whiskey
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah xacly xp
ilx needed some more bourgie anhedonia
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
^ can see why lj is fascinated tbf
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
he is easily fascinated
jura was another rly nice whisky btw
but srsly, i'm not sure glenlivet is any better than say jamesons frinstance
i'll admit i've only lately started paying more attention to whisky so i might look upon this post in a year's time as lj must on some his more jejune posts
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
jameson's is a fuckin good whiskey for a supermarket standard issue tbh
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
first use of 'jejune' on ilx is a searing tracer hand zing on darraghmac. dude goes through moments of real distaste for me
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
well, my first hearing ofit on ilx (or anywhere, prob)
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it is, but it's more expensive than most of them xxp
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
some day i will taste midleton, tho tbh i tried one of JJ& sons other special bottles lately (about a tenner more, aged 12 year or something) and didn't notice any difference.
jack daniels single barrel, though- totally different drink
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
unopened bottle of midleton sits on my shelf, where it's sat for three years.
waiting for the special-ist occasion
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
damn right
though it will have to be pretty special if you're saving an entire bottle tbh
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i'd never have the patience to leave liquor unopened that long, even wine which would benefit from it
first world pathology, u could give it to a zambian and they'd cherish it til their dotage
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
This differing opinion of what a true whiskey consisted of culminated in a legal enquiry in 1908. It was a huge turning point in the history of whiskey. The Scottish blenders won the case and the blend became recognised in law as being whiskey. The Irish in general and Jameson in particular stubbornly continued with the traditional Pure Pot Still production process for many years and, to this day, a large proportion of Jameson is still composed of Pure Pot Still component. Jameson also produces a special limited edition Pure Pot Still Whiskey, Redbreast to celebrate the ancient Irish whiskey making craft.
would drink
Interestingly, the bar that sells the most Jameson whiskey annually is located in Minneapolis, Minnesota (USA): in 2008, the Local Irish Pub in Minneapolis sold 671 cases of Jameson, 22 bottles a day
would drink there
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Only 50 casks are released each year, it is therefore both expensive and collectible. The whiskeys used in the blend are handpicked by the Master blender, all are triple distilled and have aged between 12 and 25 years in individually selected Bourbon or Sherry casks. As a new vintage is created each year, each differs slightly and has its own character.
yes, i want to try midleton
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah once it's open i'll go through it at a normal rate, but it's like, when do i open you???
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
as if firstorn children hadn't enough pressure on them
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
hahah
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
imagine having that thrown in your face after crashing yr dad's oldsmobile or w/e
― k¸ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
idgi
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link
literally a bottle of expensive whiskey thrown in yr face, like
― k¸ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
― k¸ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:41 (33 minutes ago)
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i think what he meant was 'imagine if CAD waited for the birth of a firstborn to open this monumental bottle of whiskey, what untold damage could the extra investment in the father/son relationship do to the delicate bond?'
― k¸ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
that was my reading anyway. boy it's no fun doing that
i c, duh
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
on the rocks indeed
― k¸ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
thinking about picking up a bottle of jim beam black as a cheap, all-rounder bourbon - thoughts? (my options are v. v. limited)
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry i know what i like but other than that clueless. someone'll be along in a mo
― k¸ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i like jim beam
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ehhhh what are yr other options
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
four roses again? hmm I dunno, I'll have to do some legwork
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean let's be real; it's quite difficult to make something that meets the u.s. classification of "bourbon" and sucks. but i am not crazy about the beams.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, I could always drop some cash on laphroaig. but I just want something I can kick back with when I come home from work and not worry that all my money is going down my gullet.
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
how much would it cost in an average store in america? cuz it's about £18? for the black label in my local off license iirc but suspect it's cheaper there
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i've never had the four roses 80 proof but i love some of their other expressions. and iirc their 80 is regarded as the best 80 around these days.
guess I just want something full bodied and spicy
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
full-bodied = you need to be drinking a 90 or 100 proof with an ice cube or a splash of water.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 September 2010 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link
if options are limited maybe u still have access to wild turkey?
― pun gent (another al3x), Friday, 10 September 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
hm, I probably could get wild turkey. I'll keep an eye out for it
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link
do they have rye in HK? maybe that would do the job? i know what you mean about kicking back with a nice drink after work but not spending too too much. bulleit is good for that here but i don't know if it's over there.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
haha yeah I have one bottle of rittenhouse, but it's the one I brought over, and once it's gone it's gone.
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link
cozen, taking into account the UK-availability & pricing issues, I'd say that either the Jim Beam Black (and £18 is a very good price for that here IMO) or possibly Buffalo Trace, which big Asda's stock, and was at £19 when I last bought, would be your best bet for a 'everyday'/'don't worry about actually drinking it' bourbon round these parts. Anything else is going to a significant step up the £££'s ladder.
I personally don't like Four Roses.
If you can find more interesting items than these (in real life, as opposed to online, I mean) for good prices then please let me know where...
― krakow, Friday, 10 September 2010 07:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's why i was wondering how much they cost in america, cuz although jb is nice it's in the same price range as discounted single malts
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:05 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this is p much the problem w/ drinking bourbon in the uk (rye's even more expensive)
― just sayin, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link
can you get woodford reserve dayo? it's pretty reasonable and prefer it to beam.
― HOOS' THE BOSS (ken c), Friday, 10 September 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
nicer bottle for a start
there are american online stores selling it at £10.50/$16 tho i dunnno how much it wd be in irl stores w/ sales tax
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link
(jb black label)
I think I will hit up some stores this weekend in search of good/cheap bourbon/rye
― always be cozen (dayo), Friday, 10 September 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i am literally drinking balvenie right now. very good it is too.― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
manageable hangover
could do with some now. difficult morning.
such a nice bottle, apart from everything else
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Friday, 10 September 2010 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Where are you thinking to try cozen?
Please let me know where and how you get on...
― krakow, Friday, 10 September 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
So, I tried to like scotch. I've had anything you can get in a bottle over in the States, and a lot which are shipped straight from the distillery to my local liquor playground.
Its just not doing it.
I feel like this makes me somewhat less of a drinker, qualitatively. Any opinions?
BTW - for cheaper bourbons, Beam Black is a total win. Smoother and smokier than Beam white label, and not expensive at all, as bourbons go. Woodford and I need to have a conversation or two.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 10 September 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I took a good couple swigs from my bottle of Knob Creek last night in an attempt to make myself feel terrible & of course it failed.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Saturday, 11 September 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
u are american; drink bourbon. no shame; scotch is kinda weird to me too
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 11 September 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
In my opinion, bourbon, or at least good bourbon, tastes like the more sophisticated drink. It simply tastes like sophistication to me, whereas scotch, and it's more earthy taste, seems guttural. It's weird to me that their reputations are almost the opposite. The one thing I respect the Scotch over Bourbon for is that there aren't any scotch whiskys distilled solely to be used in mixed drinks, at least none that I'm aware of. Scotch is not meant to be mixed with sugary sodas in red plastic cups. Whereas there are plenty of bottom shelf, aged 18 months, bourbons on the market that no one would dream of doing anything with except mixing with coca cola and feeding to this year's class of pledges.
I too am a big fan of Beam black for cheap bourbon. Very good stuff.
― Two Red Ducks, Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
IDK the bottle of Duggan's Dew I had once really made me think there is such a thing as a bad Scotch.
― Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
well i mean nothing is distilled "solely" to do any one thing but anything produced in the u.s. and labeled "straight bourbon" is drinkable on its own.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
iirc something aged only 18 mos. can't be designated bourbon anyway?
blended scotches are ok for mixing?
― just sayin, Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yes please
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a friend who used to mix Glenlivet with Squirt and drink it out of red plastic cups. true story.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Pointing out an 11 year old article on Islay single malts Scotch from The Alantic Monthly:
Smoky Scotch, pt 1Smoky Scotch, pt 2
Its an education, and the adjectives keep rolling...
― your message can reach dozens (Sanpaku), Sunday, 12 September 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
haven't had enough good bourbon to challenge TRD above, except on 'guttural', really, and i guess everyone's got their own opinions on what works.
will share with thread that as far as Irish is to be distinguished from Scotch, bushmill's black is very much worth a try. neither earthy nor peaty. very smooth and sweet.
― k¸ (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 September 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
― Ultraviolet Thunder (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:47 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark
is early times really that bad? the store that used to stock beam black has stopped doing so. considering early times or beam white.
― subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link
― your message can reach dozens (Sanpaku), Sunday, 12 September 2010 03:58 (2 days ago)
yeah it's a good article, <3 islay malts
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
the article has convinced me to portion part of my next paycheck for a bottle of laphroaig
― subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link
glenfiddich more accessible to start just sayin
― k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
eh, I've had single malts before - glenmorangie, highland park iirc
― subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link
think imma try talisker next if i get a good price
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
ive got some laguvulin at the moment + i would def recommend
― just sayin, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link
think imma try talisker next if i get a good price― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
do it
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link
£25 in sainsburys iirc
― Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a happy day when you see a legit single-malt for less
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Current favourite: Tobermory Old Malt Cash 14 y.o. So salty.
― calumerio, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Knobb Creek!
Gorgeous.
― krakow, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Too many b's in my excitement. But, yes, this tastes great.
Gentleman Jack is on offer at Asda for ~£23, compared to the usual £30+ here - worth a punt?
― krakow, Monday, 27 September 2010 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i had three tall glasses of canadian club & soda tonight -- i usually keep the cc around for manhattans, but wanted something simpler tonight. sobering up now.
― 808s and Hatebeak (get bent), Monday, 27 September 2010 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm having those silly thoughts of buying a bottle of Sazerac 18 year old or George T Stagg again.
The thoughts are only silly because they're £100 each here. The desire keeps plaguing me though.
― krakow, Sunday, 10 October 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 stagg
did you get the gentleman's jack? i've heard it's nice but i've never tried it.
― tehresa, Sunday, 10 October 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I did, but I haven't cracked it yet as I'm still totally in love with my Knob Creek, which I think is utterly wonderful.
― krakow, Sunday, 10 October 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link
sainsburys have 20% of a lot of spirits inc lagavulin, talisker, laphroaig, balvenie, glenlivet, balvenie :D
― journey to the end of nyt (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
last one was sposed to be dalwhinnie
― journey to the end of nyt (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
eagle rare treating me well atm.
also got to try the new maker's 46. i liked it a lot more than standard MM, which i'm not a big fan of. smoother but with much more of a finish, and more cinnamon than vanilla. worth a sip
― another al3x, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
aberlour 10 year. not super into anything peaty but it's got a bit of a sherry whiff to the nose and a sweetness to it.
― C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
On the fucking money.
This is how I've proceeded in educating myself re Malt whisky. From memory, I have tried Bowmore 10yo, Laphroaig 10yo, Glenfiddich 12yo, Macallan 10yo, Bruichladdich (10yo?), Bladnoch (18yo?), AnCnoc, Jura (awful, don't buy it), Bunnahabhain, Glenmorangie and Talisker.
In terms of alcoholic drinks generally, I'm happy to drink almost anything - and appreciate it!
All the malt whiskys I've tried, I've enjoyed (oops - Jura the exception, bit bland) - all different.
I should say that the 2nd bottle of whisky I ever bought (the second whisky I ever tried!) was Laphroaig. Took me some time, but I LOVE it now.
― argosgold (AndyTheScot), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I tried Highland Park a while ago, it was good.
― mh, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
xp wish i had tried that many scotches!
back on the bourbon front, i have a new bottling of four roses single barrel. it's intensely dry and spicy--a tough drink but i can appreciate its qualities.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
the bottle of jura i had a while back was bottled mid 90s iirc and was nice
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Jura & always keep a bottle of the 10yo on the go. Don't anyone write it off necessarily.
― krakow, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
talisker is nice, its usp is sposed to be its ~peppery~ aftertaste, which is completely accurate
got a bottle of lagavulin too, neither of which i've had before afaik
with these distinctive single malts i find the first time i try them i only taste the eccentric elements, then the next time it actually seems like....whisky
sainsburys do an 8yr irish single malt which is sposed to rly good and excellent value but they were out of stock
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
whiskey shopping tonight! i will report.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
do any of yall buy whiskies at cask strength? caol ila works out cheaper at abv buying ~£40 cask strength vs ~£30 12yr
you can dilute it too, obv
― Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
haha whiskey.xls
― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i had a rye from NY a couple weeks ago that was kind of like drinking bread. can't remember the name
― another al3x, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
do any of yall buy whiskies at cask strength?
I always buy uncut/unfiltered if it's an option, as a local bar owner told me, "you can always add water, but you can't take it away."
All the most extraordinary bourbons and ryes I've tasted have been in the range of 120-140 proof.
― I DIED, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link
what do we think of Pritchard's bourbon?
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
coz i feel like ive been cheated
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
quick investigation indicates that prichard's is one of those outfits that buys bourbon from one of the kentucky distillers and relabels and bottles it. i guess they're putting it back in barrels for a bit too? not really worth wasting your time with from the sounds of it.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I picked up some beam black and it is very good
― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I just finished my bottle of that Beam Black 8yo, which is proof positive that I enjoyed it.
Woodford Reserve is finally on offer at Tesco (my waiting was well judged), so I bought a bottle and I'm really quite unsure. It has a great nose, but there's something about the taste that I'm not convinced on. I've only had a couple of glasses and do have a cold at the moment, so I'll reserve (boom boom!) judgement properly for now, hoping that I'll get to grips with it gradually... Anyone else had this?
― krakow, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link
beam black is what the original ILX bourbon bobbing was done with (diluted a bit)
i know a lot of people love woodford but i've never been a huge fan either, for the price. evan williams and early times are still my faves
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a bit early here now, but tonight I'll compare it to my Knob Creek to make sure that it isn't just malfunctioning tastebuds on my part due to the cold - I'm not getting what any of the tasting notes online say of it, so this may well be the case. I know I <3 Knob Creek, so if that doesn't taste right then that will explain it.
― krakow, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link
early times is good? it's half the price of beam black here so maybe I'll pick up a bottle
― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link
the early times that they export is a real bourbon and is quite possibly decent. u.s. early times is not quite a straight bourbon and would be low on my list of things to try.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, if you've got the money i've got the time
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Anybody ever try Hirsch's? It's really good.
― Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
re: pritchard's
I have an iphone. I should probably use it for research when making purchases...
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't want to hate that much because their rums are apparently well-regarded and they actually distill those themselves.
the whiskey sold by one of those re-bottlers could well be good or excellent stuff depending on what they bought and from who. or it could be mass-produced average stuff. in any event, part of what you're paying for is a name and a marketing story. as i said, prichard's is putting in a little more work by re-barreling, but i'm pretty unclear on what this actually accomplishes.
here's a couple of posts from a guy who knows what he's talking about on this subject:
http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2010/02/potemkin-craft-distilleries.html
http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2010/10/wh-harrison-indiana-bourbon-honors-war.html
in conclusion, if the bottle is not from kentucky, have yr guard up.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I tried Old Overholt finally. Approved!
― mh, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
The thing about Hirsch is that if you bring it up among whiskey afficionados, they'll probably assume you're talking about either the 16 year old or the 20 year old expressions that came from the now defunct Michter's distillery and that runs about $300 - $400 a bottle these days. But in the last couple of years, I believe someone bought the brand and is putting something out under the Hirsch name at a more reasonable $35 - $40 a bottle. I've sampled the cheaper one and did think it was quite good at that price. Never had the original now-scarce one.
― Two Red Ducks, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I havent had the 16 or the 20, just the regular Hirsch they sell at my local Bottle King. It's 25 bucks a bottle. I really recommend it.
― Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
liking a bottle of michter's rye right now. i remember the bourbon being on the sweet side, but this has a nice balance that comes out over the course of a sip. think they were both "us-1" labels.
― another al3x, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a bartender giving me half-shots of whiskey and making me guess what they were last weekend. Had a scotch that comes in a sort of barrel-lookin' bottle, can't remember the name of it. Also some Evan Williams Single Barrel, which was surprisingly good and evidently quite cheap in the store, worth investigating.
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
yes! evan williams single barrel is in my store for just over 30 and i really want to try it. i think i've heard it described as being whatever the distillery thinks is its best stuff at the time, bottled up and shipped out.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Yup, EW Single Barrel is done by the year, and it's supposedly somewhat different every time. I guess people hoard bottles from good years.
― mh, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
two countries separated by a common beverage
― Adrian Roosevelt "Adie" Mike (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
here's the NY rye i had: http://www.drinkspirits.com/whiskey/mckenzie-rye-whiskey-review/
had it again tonight and the rye bread taste didn't hit me quite like i remembered, but still def more prominent than any in any other whiskey i've had. really unique if you ever get a chance to try it
― another al3x, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
that sounds excellent
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
auchentoshan, anyone?
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
mostly been drinking Elijah Craig lately
― dmr, Friday, 12 November 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
bourbon tasting blowout at my house last night:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5171732265_783b97abfe.jpg
l-r four roses single barrel; knob creek single barrel; evan williams black label; elmer t. lee single barrel; old grand dad bottled in bond; maker's 46; bulleit; some johnnie walker black that someone snuck in; and this year's comedy bottle, canadian kappy's royal.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
some brief tasting notes 4 u:
evan williams black: plain, functional. would not drink straight but a fine mixer/budget bottle.old grand dad bib: bready. lots of alcohol. great mixer.evan williams single barrel (not pictured): retains some of the lightness of the e.w. black with a much more developed flavor. nice.knob creek single barrel: the richest of all of these, huge rounded flavor with sweetness and depth.bulleit: start of the sip is weird and boxy--i'm not a fan. the finish is better. too rough.elmer t. lee sb: whoa, major sweetness to be had here. no idea if a like it or not. made me crave some vanilla ice cream. need to taste again in isolation.four roses sb: muted sweetness with a huge, spicy finish. nuanced. a winner.maker's 46: was dying with curiosity about this one. big upfront flavor with wood and vanilla and the typical maker's clean finish. i like it. need to a/b with some regular maker's because i've never been a fan, but if this is maker's plus (which is kind of how it's being positioned), sign me up.
bonus round:johnnie walker black: had never actually tried this! it walks the other blended scotches i've had with a logical balance of smoke and malt. pleasant.candian kappy's royal: (nb kappy's is a local liquor chain so this is a store brand. 12 bucks/liter and it's overpriced). smells like a magic marker. tastes like a lemon candy dipped in formaldehyde. avoid at all costs.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
nice! i still haven't had four roses. had similar impression of maker's 46, though i remember it having more lingering finish than orig maker's. definitely worth drinking straight.
thinkin about picking up something relatively cheap for manhattans soon...
― another al3x, Saturday, 13 November 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
walker black is nice and does in a pinch but has a weird aftertaste
― dayo, Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link
got a 100% rye... catoctin creek. as rye-y as the NY one i linked upthread. nose is like some kinda old candy, i dunno yet
― another al3x, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
glenmorangie, glenlivet and laphroaig sittin on my sideboard, will be first time tryin ach iirc. love trips to the north.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
nice
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
enjoying lagavulin a lot right now
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i was looking for that specifically but ended up mentally sbanning asda in enniskillen for not carrying any
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
after disparaging it a bit upthread, i did grow a lot of fonder of glenlivet before i got through that bottle
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i think speyside and islay malts have to be judged a lil differently
morangie so far, enjoying the sweetness.
xp out of my depth now, but i like whiskey and drink it w/out mixer and everything
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
islays like laphroaig/lagavulin just have such a different flavour profile, is all
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Monday, 22 November 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
wont know til near xmas tbph, it's a present for a bro.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link
talisker only £21 at asda apparently
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Monday, 22 November 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
no sign of it, had this thread in mind alright when browsing. disgustin southern tadhg savages had place long cleared out of crisps, toilet roll and many alcoholic options by 5pm sunday
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
glenmorangie is one of the best whiskeys i've tasted
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 22 November 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone had edradour?
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Monday, 22 November 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
islay is its own thing for me. lagavulin is probably my favorite whiskey. caol ila also great, and bruichladdich maybe has the most exagerrated islay flavor iirc.
agree glenglenmorangie is v good and has one of the best names too!
― straight old fashioned, virgin (another al3x), Monday, 22 November 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link
first thoughts on glenmorangie = vv good, but kneejerk prefer glenfiddich. lot of whiskey out there yet tho
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I am not really a hard liquor guy at all, but I just bought a bottle of this, which is really nice:
http://americancraftspirits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/darkryepic.jpg
― Domingo Halliburton (jaymc), Monday, 22 November 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
all this talk makes me want to change the thread title to whisky
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Finally tried some Rye whiskey this weekend. Not much different from regular it seemed, a little bit of a different taste and aftertaste. I had hyped it up in my mind as something totally awesome, but it pretty much just tastes like normal bourbon with very slight differences.
Of course I didn't have an especially good rye. Mid-shelf stuff, mind you.
― Nature points out the folly of man (Viceroy), Monday, 22 November 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
agnostic abt caol ila
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 November 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link
a little bit of a different taste and aftertaste
but uh that's kind of the whole thing isn't it?
usually drier than bourbon, less sweet
― dmr, Sunday, 28 November 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link
bought a bottle of Eagle Rare bourbon tonight, fairly low proof but has that rye spiciness
I usually lean toward higher proof and put like one ice cube in but this is good neat
― dmr, Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i am NOT loving the maker's 46. it tastes like alcohol. i am not really getting any sense of sophistication from this whiskey. u_u.
― tehresa, Sunday, 28 November 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
glenmorangie really good. eyeing the glenlivet atm tho.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
whoah Penderyn single malt
we have a new whiskey bar in town and a friend of mine got that, it almost tasted like a super good tequila! I had Four Roses single barrel.
― sleeve, Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
kicking my ass this morning
― The Reverend, Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
wild turkey 101
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Thursday, 2 December 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I have a new found love for Johnnie W. Black - one ice cube (small). Love the strange smoky tastes.
― A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 2 December 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
beam tonight, jameson earlier in the week. gonna hike over to the liquor store and get a bottle or two soon though, before the cold really sets it.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, 2 December 2010 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link
rittenhouse & a wild card...
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, 2 December 2010 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Brought home a couple of bottles of Suntory Yamazaki from japan. Opened the 12 y/o last night - delicious. Better than the glenfiddich I'm used to
― sonderborg, Thursday, 2 December 2010 07:50 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP51NnoVErA
― jeevves, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link
sacrilege or not, made a world class hot toddy with glenlivet last night.
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Just a reminder y'all: Drink Whiskey Day is December 5.
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
holy shit, yes
― Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Thursday, 2 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
There's whiskey in the jar-o iirc
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 2 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i tasted the small batch buffalo trace zinfindel stuff and it's a noble failure.
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
more info: first taste was bourbony w/ a little extra sweetness on the end which was v v nice and kinda interesting but then it opened up and it became grape juice w/ rubbing alcohol in it and was v v gross.
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
oh what it was aged in zinfindel barrels?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
ewww
― tehresa, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link
So, a friend got me a bottle of Knob Creek over the Thanksgiving holiday, and I had a glass last night in my typical bourbon fashion - one big ice cube in the glass.
I will be trying it neat tonight. Shit was SMOOOTHER than I remembered. Dayum.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link
eagle rare neat is treating me right
did not mean to be almost halfway thru the bottle but ohhhhh well
and now with drink whiskey day coming up and all ...
― dmr, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
oooooh i am looking forward to drink whiskey day
― tehresa, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:27 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah not worth it unless someone offers it to you/is paying
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
what is drink whisky day
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link
every day is drink whisky day
― .\ /. (dayo), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
craving whiskey. I will buy whiskey.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
problem. solution.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i like abelour scotch, but why i couldn't really tell you, i don't know much about scotch. and i have to say the reason i posted the hitchens video is that i think johnnie walker black is really good.
― jeevves, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Hitchens is notorious for regifting really nice bottles of scotch to his friends & neighbors. Many people know what he's fond of scotch and get him very expensive bottles as presents but he ONLY drinks Johnnie Walker Black and gives away everything else.
― I DIED, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
that's awesome. i've told this story before, but he's replied to two of my fan emails before within a few hours with a very polite, informative response each time... he is a true gentleman
― jeevves, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I got bottle of Compass Box Flaming Heart 10-Year Anniversary as a present for a friend today at my favorite local liquor store. Really gorgeous label:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2z9a79l.jpg
Also, bless that store for carrying 14 kinds of rye.
― I DIED, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
you are a good friend!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
haha I don't think I'd have gotten it for him if I wasn't sure that I'd be able to share some.
― I DIED, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
X-posts/re: hitchens
Except that, even allowing that its a really good one like Johnny Walker Black, repping that hard for a blended whisky, to the exclusion of all other whiskeys is so weird to me. I look down on it, as surely as I look down on someone who only drank canadian whiskey.
I mean if you don't drink single malts or quality bourbons, you just aren't in the fraternity of whiskey snobs/afficionados, and are hence to be ignored on the subject.
― Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm shocked, just shocked that hitch would be stubborn and intractable about something!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
a very special day that coincides with the repeal of Prohibition in the USA
(note: if the actual date falls on a week day then the holiday is moved to the nearest following Friday, creating Drink Whiskey Day (observed))
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Friday, 3 December 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
wasn't the idea though that something like johnnie walker black would have the same consistency year in year out, rather than as a result of the particular year as in a single-malt? maybe that's what he likes about it, i don't know.
― jeevves, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
dude what is that store? i want to go to there!xposts
― tehresa, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
so maybe i should make it tomorrow because the 5th is a sunday (aka school night)
― tehresa, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yes i also want to know about this store so i can make a pilgrimage someday
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
also, re: hitchens, i've heard the same thing about him drinking wine. i read this account of a dinner someone was at with (seriously) richard dawkins, and they were drinking clos du bois, like $12 bottles of wine. i've also seen pictures of hitchens waiting for the bus in washington d.c.awesome, awesome person
― jeevves, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
drink whiskey day i mean. xpostwell i guess next fri is the nearest following friday. i give up. bad at posting tonight!
― tehresa, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
(xposts) it's Ace Beverage on New Mexico Ave (DC). Inconvenient location, only open until 5pm, but goddamn is it a great store.
― I DIED, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
By all means celebrate Drink Whiskey Day on a day that works best for you, but this year it does conveniently fall on a weekend.
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Friday, 3 December 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Hitchens used to be maybe the closest thing I had to a sort of hero, but then there was that Iraq War boosterism and I stopped paying attention to him. But you bring up the wine and taking the bus and Johnnie Walker Black fits in in sort of an admirable way. I was interpreting it another way.
― Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a bit off-topic but yep, the iraq stuff, i don't know. i don't really understand how he got to that point.
but johnnie walker black i have to say was really, really good. i haven't had any in a while but i was struck by how good it was.
― jeevves, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
No it is good. I won't deny that.
― Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
it's great stuff for sure
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
again sorry to be off topic here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/collina/4343030446/
― jeevves, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link
lol. I used to ride the 42 b/w mount pleasant and dupont circle all the time.
― Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
On Thursdays I get all frosty on Jim Beam Rye and ginger beer and watch television.
― mh, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
you know, a google search for "drink whiskey day" yields 14 results, one of them a chicago ilx thread. lol.
― tehresa, Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
more commonly called Repeal Day iirc
http://www.repealday.org/
― dmr, Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I stumbled into a DC Whiskey Week tasting be coincidence at Bourbon last night, free tastings of:
Smooth Ambler White Whiskey (West Virginia, 100 proof) - a pretty delicious moonshine. Lots of corn on the nose but a really bright taste, almost like a pisco. Great for cocktails. They also make a really unusual gin.
Redemption Rye (Kentucky, 92 proof) - 95% rye, super spicy of course. Not too nuanced but it was only a 2-year old bottling and retails around $26, so what can you expect. This was one of my favorites of the night just because the rye content made it so unique.
Redemption Bourbon (Kentucky, 92 proof) - eh, nothing special.
High West Rendezvous Rye (Utah, 92 proof) - blend of a 16-year old rye and a 6-year old rye, both with very high rye contents. Great stuff, very long finish. Not filtered, but still cut. Wish it had been bottled at a higher proof. There were a couple older High West ryes, too, but I think bottling a 16 or 21 year old rye at 92 proof is a crime.
Willett 8-year "Coco Loco" Bourbon (Kentucky, 123 proof) - as usual, the Willett bottlings are really special. The Coco Loco was worth seeking out but the real star was the...
Willett 8-year "Suspension Bridge" Bourbon (Kentucky, 128 proof) - holy shit, probably my favorite Willett expression since the 16-year Malt Bomb. Huge flavor with a good burn but also a nice balance and strong finish. Less sweet than the Coco Loco. All the Willett bottlings (except for the Pot Still) get selected by individual barrel, so there are less than 200 bottles of each. I'm going to grab a bottle of the Suspension Bridge quick.
I feel very lucky to have a bar as good as Bourbon in DC. Also grateful for DC's relatively open liquor import and distribution regulations, that kind of stuff isn't visible but it makes an enormous difference to consumers.
― I DIED, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
good stuff!
the mini quality rye drought we were having up here seems to be over big time; seen both rittenhouse and sazerac in multiple stores recently. i guess i can stop hoarding?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
whiskey week! dang. how do i never know about these things until after hte fact!?
― tehresa, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i have hardly had any whisky this week
― nakhchivan, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
every week is whiskey week
― the nagl is the nagl (dayo), Friday, 10 December 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
xp was about to say me neither, then i realized i hade some monday and tuesday
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
glenfarclas anybody? got a bottle of the 12-year on a fabulous discount on new years eve.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 3 January 2011 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link
got some redemption rye after a sampling a few weeks ago - made an awesome dry manhanttan with it. really young and lively.
― tehresa, Monday, 3 January 2011 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i need to check that rye out soon
― call all destroyer, Monday, 3 January 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
young and lively, like a frolicsome Sri Lankan lad...
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 3 January 2011 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link
mom gave (actually re-gifted) me a bottle of bushmills for my birthday, so I've been drinking that.
will be getting a dude a bottle of midleton very rare for his upcoming birthday, will report back
― all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 January 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 January 2011 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah well i expect reciprocation in kind in a few months, and it's a good enough excuse that gf/fiancee on either side can't protest oermuch
― all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 January 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link
will not be drinking it like this
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/818963/pint.jpg
― all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
willett 'suspension bridge' tonight - really nice. a little harsh on the finish but awesome vanilla notes without being too sweet.
― tehresa, Monday, 17 January 2011 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link
grandma came this weekend so we have dewars
thanks grandma
― maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:51 (thirteen years ago) link
based on what I read in this thread, I decided to try some rye whiskey. I like drinking whiskey neat or with one ice cube, depending on the weather, so I asked the lady at the whiskey store for a good sipping rye. For my price range, she recommended Michter's single barrel. I liked it quite a bit, and am looking forward to my next bottle of rye. Has anyone had High West or Copper Fox?
― rockapads, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
not tried either--pls post thoughts if you pick 'em up
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
High West is supposed to be good, but I can't ever remember trying it. Copper Fox is a young and extremely harsh whiskey that I would recommend avoiding.
― Two Red Ducks, Thursday, 3 February 2011 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link
10 yr jura your thoughts pls
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
looks like bulleit has a rye out now!
― tehresa, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
James Yorkston's touring diaries made me think I need to explore whiskey more thoroughly.
― djh, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
― tehresa, Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:00 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
there is a god
― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
i want to have that
― rockapads, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
I have been sharing links and previews of Bulleit Rye with friends for months! It is not yet available here, which sucks. It's distilled by LDI, who were the source of (local favorite) Templeton Rye's original batch.
― sarcasdick (mh), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), den 27 mars 2011 20:01 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haven't tried the 10 year old, but the jura i've tasted (superstition iirc) was nothing special
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
i picked up a 10 or 12 yr for a friend's birthday (didn't get the midleton as i promised upthread) and it's really great.
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
10 Year Old Jura's drinkable but nothing special. Not a lot of character.
― Ha ha ha ha. Jack my swag. (ShariVari), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
the yamazaki is a 10 yr fwiw
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
cool
most of the uk supermarkets sell that so i'll buy one whenever it's next on special offer
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
in the few months i was buying single malts most of the main ones were on offer somewhere
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Hudson Manhattan Rye is the most amazing shit (as it should be for $42/375)
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
my friend living in NYC is moving back in two weeks and will no longer be able to bring me bottles when she visits. I don't know how to make a single-tear emoticon but imagine one here.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
btw i concur on the jura- fine, easy drank, but a special-offer only purchase
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
all whisky that can bought widely is special offer only imo
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
imr
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
http://i56.tinypic.com/2yl2tyc.jpg
came across an open tasting bottle of the Bulleit Rye at a friend's bar tonight! 90 proof, 95% rye mash, but not so spicy as the similarly rye-heavy Redemption Rye. Really round flavors upfront with a sugar sweetness (though not nearly so much as a bourbon) quickly leaving a cinnamon finish. Drinks well alone, will mix well too and it'll be hard to beat in the price range.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
i really like redemption rye, but it IS quite lively. really wanna try this now!!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
really should taste before i say anything but i am extremely skeptical of these bottles coming out with a 90+ percent rye mashbill
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
Can anyone help me find a whiskey that I had once? It was a really expensive whiskey, the guy who owned the bar was an old friend of my parents. I think it's called wedgewood, maybe wildwood? I've never really cared for whiskey but that was about the smoothest liquor I've ever tasted.
― Iris, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
was it some kind of Woodford Reserve maybe? Just going by the name.
― rockapads, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
That could be it. I seem to remember it being a Canadian whiskey but I really have no idea. Woodford Reserve seems to be the one of the few that starts with a W
― Iris, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
attn: dyao.. going to hong kong end of april - can bring whisky delivery if so desired!
― Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.houseoflochar.com/books/images/whisky2.jpg
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
so i discovered a distillery about an hour from here that has 'bottling days' where you can participate in bottling! this weekend's full and i'm out of town for the next one, but i'm totally psyched at the idea that i could learn how to bottle whiskey!
also, my abc dude said that maybe they will get bulleit at the next 'sales quarter' which begins may 1. apparently they can only add new items when a new quarter starts.
― coming from me, who has written many bestsellers (tehresa), Monday, 11 April 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
I thought they add things monthly here, but maybe it's by quarters as well? That'd make sense.
IIRC everything has to be ordered/purchased through the state in Iowa.
On an odd note, Costco has Bulleit Bourbon for $20/750ml here, which is almost $10 cheaper than most grocery stores!
― mh, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
oh i meant the bulleit rye... the new one. i forgot to say that (they do already carry reg bulleit).
― coming from me, who has written many bestsellers (tehresa), Monday, 11 April 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I caught what you meant, we don't have the rye yet here, either.
― mh, Monday, 11 April 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
got a free bottle of Bulleit Rye from the distributor - yay to the perks of the bar industry!
― I DIED, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
stoked right now on Baker's Bourbon
― jaxon, Monday, 11 April 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
I want yr life, I DIED.
― coming from me, who has written many bestsellers (tehresa), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
ok i am going to a bottling workshop a week from saturday! psyched!!!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
that's awesome! hope u can recap it here.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
aw groan
― socks & pwns may break my bwns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
finally bought a bottle of that Bulleit Rye. tastes pretty nice, but it's kind of harsh. Good for the price.
― rockapads, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was pretty smooth for a rye! Has an interesting mint finish.
Did I previously mention I got a bottle of Baker's for my birthday? I did, and it's great with a splash of water, and it has a weird cherry finish.
― mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
ooh i still need to try this.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
on a visit to the parental home for my mother's birthday she had the good sense to bring out a postprandial bottle of 1993 Scapa (2006 bottling); delicious and still seemingly very affordable (about £45 or so).
― Bill A, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
Bulleit Rye is a lot more harsh than the Tuthilltown Hudson Manhattan Rye, but at a quarter of the price I'll gladly drink it with water.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
maybe this manhattan rye I have not had is just wussy
― mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
i also picked up a bottle of bulleit rye this weekend. it's fine, but at twice the cost of overholt and approx $10 more than rittenhouse, it's not gonna become my standard. nice flavor i suppose but maybe a bit weak?
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
it's at one store in my area and they've marked it up north of 40 bucks. so yeah not trying soon unless maybe i spot it at a bar.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
40 bucks? wtf, I think it's $28 here. Like I said, hoping it's at Costco for $20!
― mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
i am going to have to stop by the store downstairs on my way home to see if they're carrying it because this curiosity is killing me.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
bulleit bourbon's pretty rye-y anyway
― just sayin, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
very true
― mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
My new drink is Green Chartreuse, Manhattan Rye Whiskey, Sweet Vermouth, and Simple Syrup with a orange peel. Not sure what to call it, but it taste like heaven. Any other ideas for rye cocktails?
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
Sounds a lot like a sazerac
― mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
sazerac doesn't have the vermouth, right? i can not make myself like things w/ simple syrup lately :(
― tehresa, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
i think 'a lot' is a bit of a stretch xp
― just sayin, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
It's similar to the sazerac which I have never heard of. I should invest in a bottle of Peychaud's Bitters.
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
people sub chartreuse in for absinthe in a sazerac, so minus the vermouth...
― mh, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah you're right i guess it all depends on the proportions, it could be v similar
― just sayin, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
it sounds like a bijou which is gin/green chartreuse/sweet vermouth
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
Tempted to get a bottle of Balcones Baby Blue this weekend - first product out from a distillery in Waco.http://www.balconesdistilling.com/babyblue
But it's sort of expensive ($35/750, I think) and 'baby blue' corn whiskey screams harsh to me.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
do you know how long they're aging it for?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
4 months, IIRC
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
yikes!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
i'm sure it will be interesting but only you know whether you can spend 35 bucks on interesting
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I'm just bullshitting, I've heard manhattan rye is good
― mh, Thursday, 5 May 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
kentucky derby, bitches
― dmr, Thursday, 5 May 2011 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
http://vintagebooze.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Eagle-Rare-1981.jpg
― dmr, Thursday, 5 May 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
I made some mint simple syrup for ready-made juleps a year or two back
got way wasted by the time my friends left, then a second wave of friends showed up. good times.
― mh, Thursday, 5 May 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
guy downstairs said he forgot to order it but would have it on tuesday...
eagle rare on sale at my neighborhood abc.
good week for whiskey? i'm celebrating derby tonight w/ the eagle rare since i have to work tomorrow night.
― tehresa, Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
shit, i had a bunch of leftover mint a while back and forgot to make a syrup, then i went out of town and came back to yuck :(
hahah i celebrated the end of the work week (and nice enough weather to sit on the back porch) earlier today with an eagle rare julep.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
― tehresa, Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
eagle rare buddies <3
― dmr, Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
bah, i should have bought a bottle of whiskey today. through the bulleit already..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 7 May 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
haven't had it in ages! it's so smooth!
i wouldn't mind a *little* more depth to it, though.
xpost
― tehresa, Saturday, 7 May 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
Eagle Rare 10-year isn't my favorite bourbon but I love it dearly
― I DIED, Saturday, 7 May 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
it's a v. good mixing bourbon and a decent sipper imo.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 May 2011 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
I picked up a bottle of the Rogue Dead Guy whiskey tonight. Haven't cracked it open yet, though. Anyone had it?
― Frightening, but full of facts that are difficult to argue with. (dan m), Saturday, 7 May 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.1-877-spirits.com/store/images/large/Wild-Turkey-Rare-Breed-lg.jpgp
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 May 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
i mean:
http://mattsbar.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/wild_turkey_rare_breed_bourbon.jpg?w=263&h=576
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 May 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
Drinking this tonight, very smooth on ice. http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/ProductImage.aspx%3Fpc%3DBRBON/JEF4%26w%3D270
― JacobSanders, Friday, 13 May 2011 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
liquor store closest to my house that usually only stocks old overholt and beam as far as rye just got in some new stuff -- redemption rye and bulleit rye. bought the redemption. trying it out .... now. *sips*
― dmr, Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
I have recently been drinking bourbon and soda. Nice warm-weather drink.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
a shot of maker's mark in a pint glass filled with ice and then topped up with soda water is delicious on a hot afternoon.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
make it two shots and i'm in.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
hah or one in a tumbler?
― tehresa, Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
TWO SHOTS.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 14 May 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
Two shots makes it too much like a whiskey and soda. It's a drinkable summer beverage, and it's important to get a wonderful golden color that deepens towards the bottom of the pint glass. Don't worry... the sun doesn't set until 9:30pm, so you have plenty of time to get smashed.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
ok, ok.xpost
i have to miss bottling workshop tomorrow because of being sick :(bf suggests bourbon will help! hah. i don't think it will, but i really appreciate the thought!
― tehresa, Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but things that taste diluted are not fun for me
Also, here in Austin we call it a "Gay Perry."
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
xp hot toddy for you!!!
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
After sunset, you can switch to a double, neat.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
re: my new bottle of rare breed, which i am just loving, i gotta lift this quote from the bourbon forum i've been reading. it's in relation to the fact that all of wild turkey's best bottlings are 101-proof or higher:
"if i'm drinking with the turkey, i expect to be pecked."
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
There goes the rest of my Glenfiddich.
Apparently it's only for amateurs anyway.
But now I'm on Asda Value French Brandy.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 14 May 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
I got half a bottle of Macallan & a quarter bottle of Talisker for free via Twitter yesterday - hurrah!
― just call me brian (krakow), Saturday, 14 May 2011 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
how so?
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Saturday, 14 May 2011 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
debating whether to bring the standard stuff or something a bit nicer on this camping excursion. 'a bit nicer' is only the jura tbh
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
Jura? Hmm. I'm not a fan of the Jura stuff. Bit bland for me.
I've been on Bruich Laddich Rocks (unpeated Islay malt) and Caol Ila (peated Islay malt) recently. Love them both.
― argosgold (AndyTheScot), Saturday, 14 May 2011 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm thinking the jura is a nice compromise btwn bringing a decent drink for the lads and wasting something i'm actually fond of.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
after about 5/6ths of a bottle of deliberation, i've decided i dislike caol ila
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Saturday, 14 May 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
you may tweet me the last 1/6th
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 14 May 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
been enjoying rye lately. started w/ a bottle of Michter's. it's fantastic but almost $50. so got a bottle of bulleit rye to try. half the price but i'm only liking it about half as much. Michter's goes down like buttah
― Marquis de Sade (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 14 May 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
Last weekend, I went to a new cocktail-centric bar in my town, and had, among other things, a serving of the Pappy Van Winkle 20 year old. OH MY BOURBONOUS GOD! So amazing.
So much so, that when I went back there on Thursday, the bartender remembered and asked "How'd you like that PVW 20 year old?"
I love good bourbon.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 14 May 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
I got a bottle of that for a going-away present once. So great. Also probably my favorite liquor label. I've probably posted it in the thread before.
http://www.sexcigarsbooze.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/e20yr904_pl-286x300.jpg
― dmr, Sunday, 15 May 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
that stuff rolls around on your tongue like oil.
― dmr, Sunday, 15 May 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
That is ironic. I tried posting about the Pappy but kept getting an error. Anyway, the 15-year Pappy is so well-regarded there's practically a local run on it, especially factoring in rumors that this may be the last of the original run.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 May 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
left the jura at home, someone brought glenfiddich 12, 15 &18 yr for sampling.
12 the best imo
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
awww dmr you lucky fucker. my local store actually did a lottery for the right to buy their spring allocation of pappy. funds prevented me from going in for more than one bottle of the 12, and i found out on friday that i won it.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
should have tried to buy 15 instead and am having regrets tbh.
http://www.whisky-drinker.com/pages/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/redbreast.jpg
Lovin' this stuff lately.
― thirdalternative, Sunday, 15 May 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
oops
that stuff is pretty much my favorite whiskey. I had some 15-year at a bar a few months ago, and it was probably the most enjoyable glass of whiskey I have had. which is good, because iirc they charged me $12 for it.
― rockapads, Sunday, 15 May 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
redbreast is really good, yeah
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 May 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
The free whisky came from an acquaintance who is moving abroad & has been giving away unwanted items via twitter.
I got an excellent bottle of BenRiach Curiositas 10 Year Old Peated for my birthday the other week - it is really something!
― just call me brian (krakow), Thursday, 26 May 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
yay i am going to bottling day next weekend (to make up for being sick last time). i will force myself to be unsick and report back on the awesome.
― tehresa, Friday, 27 May 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
hooray! whiskey bottling was fun!
the distillery is very small. they're certified organic and kosher, locally owned, and they basically do it all themselves (a former computer scientist who got tired of the grind and his chemical engineer wife). they're great people. they gave us an overview of how they make the whiskey, and we got to go into the fermentation tent and see batches bubbling away.
they waste nothing - the heads of each batch are reused as cleaning solution, the tails are steeped with a 'tea bag' and redistilled to become gin, and they give the unused mash (basically all the grain, etc.) to a local cow farmer.
to bottle: whiskey is pumped through the whiskey cow 4 bottles at a time, then corked, sealed, labeled, packed. my job was putting the seals on over the tops (you know that shrink wrapped plastic part?). it was a lot of fun and we did 65 cases in about an hour!
yay!http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/248495_10150209692789076_98590104075_6886555_7189632_n.jpg
― tehresa, Sunday, 5 June 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
in other news, my abc now has bulleit rye! i tried some last night but i think my throat is still a bit raw/off from being sick so i don't know if i was really appreciating it :(
― tehresa, Sunday, 5 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I'm really not enjoying my bottle of Bulleit rye tbh. Has a great taste, but it burns like cheap whiskey. Would absolutely fuck up a 12 or 16 year version.
― rockapads, Monday, 6 June 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
i grew to quite like the bulleit, but i can no longer afford it
― mookieproof, Monday, 6 June 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link
A new whisky-centric spirits shop has opened in town, with a very nice selection. I'm particularly interested in their American whiskeys right now...
Old Fitzgerald 12 y/oElijah Craig 12 y/o & 18 y/oBernheim OriginalHeaven HillJ W Dant Special ReserveJohnny Drum Green LabelEvan Williams Single Barrel 2000Old Rip Van Winkle 10 y/o
Pikesville Supreme RyeVan Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 y/o
Any thoughts from those?
― just call me brian (krakow), Sunday, 19 June 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
grab that van winkle rye if you can swing it--it's a v. scarce whiskey.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
I picked up some of that new Jim Beam Devil's Cut stuff. Pretty decent! It's a lot sweeter than I expected.
― mh, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
everything on that list other than the van winkles and johnny drum (which might well be heaven hill stock) is from the heaven hill distillery, which has a multitude of brands and agings. evan williams sb is always worth a look, and i'd be real interested to try the fitzgerald too.
xp i just saw devil's cut in a store for the first time--definitely planning to check it out.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks!
The Van Winkle Rye is most likely out of my price range at £67! I do see a lot of very good things being said about it though.
There are a few that are more within my price bracket and it would be good to try something totally new to me. Thus far I have tried & liked Knob Creek, Buffalo Trace, Jim Beam Black & Woodford Reserve on the American front. I'd really like to try a rye whiskey, so may give the Pikesville a punt, while lusting after the Van Winkle. Anyone got opinions on Pikesville rye?
― just call me brian (krakow), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
haven't had it, but i think i can say i am not a fan of the bulleit rye. i've tried it plain and mixed in bevs. it was ok in a manhattan, but i like redemption a lot more.
― tehresa, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
I wish that transatlantic posting of booze were more doable - I'd love to do whisky/whiskey swappage with U.S. folks.
― just call me brian (krakow), Monday, 20 June 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
i'd def check the pikesville--same maker and mashbill as my beloved rittenhouse. i'm pretty sure i've had it in bars once or twice but it's not generally available in retail around here.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
I like the Devil's Cut and it seems like a good summer whiskey - I infused half the bottle with tea - but I'm not sure I can see spending that much on a Beam-branded product again. At my liquor store, it's priced about the same as Maker's Mark, Bulleit, etc., which is just nuts.
Still have not tried the Bulleit Rye, even though it's carried here and I love both Bulleit and rye. Stubbornly resisting. Will probably give in sometime this summer.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
i think i saw it at about 28 bucks? but that was the expensive store.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
It's a few bucks less than that here - probably about $24, cause I got that, Aperol, and Q Tonic at the same time and it came to 50-something. So that's the same price as the Bulleit rye or Eagle Rare, a couple bucks more than Maker's Mark, a couple bucks less than Knob Creek. It's not as bad as the ridiculously high price point of ri(1), but it seems off.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
Of course, part of me wants to travel the country buying up cases of it, just to encourage them to continue in this direction instead of cranking out more Black Cherry Flavored Red Stag.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
ri(1) is so ridiculously-priced!
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
ri(1) just makes me angry. A GOOD rye wouldn't sell that high at that age - the only thing comparable is microdistillery rye, and nothing inflating the price there is applicable to a Beam product - but adding insult to wallet injury is that it isn't even as good as Old Overholt. It seems like a completely tone-deaf entry, a whiskey marketed with the awareness of the new popularity of rye but with an eye on the quadruple-distilled vodka drinkers, the same way Red Stag is whiskey's Parrot Bay.
Whiskey can be a lot of goddamn things, but it should never be bland.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
Quick: aberlour 10 year or glengoyne 10 year?
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
xp i think basil hayden drives me crazier--do a nice 8-year aging, then water it down to 80 proof, stick it in a bottle with a weird label, and charge a premium price.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp Both good, Aberlour 10 a personal preference.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Monday, 20 June 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
And what else sets Basil Hayden apart? It's Beam's high-rye bourbon! See, as soon as rye gets involved they just fuck everything up.
But you're right, the price on that one is way out of proportion, given that the same company offers the cheaper Knob Creek and the better/higher-proof Booker's. It's one thing when a company's products are all overpriced, but Beam has such weird inconsistency in relative prices.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
Booker's is definitely my favorite offering of those.
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
I want to try Old Potrero, but the one store that carries it around here keeps selling the couple bottles they get in stock before I get there.
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
yes! i knew there was something else that bothered me--hayden is actually extra-aged old grand-dad--how good would that be at 100 proof?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Probably a lot better!
They have a little booklet attached to Knob Creek/Basil Hayden's/Booker's bottles that have serving ideas. I think they recommend soda water for BH's and a splash of water for Booker's?
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i like basil hayden but i have never understood the pricing!!
― tehresa, Monday, 20 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it seems like bh has a following as a soda/ginger mixer and as a hot-weather bourbon. i would be 100% down w/this if it was 10-15 bucks cheaper.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
I want some Booker's right now, after having mentioned it again!
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
The worst is when you see Basil Hayden on a whiskey list somewhere where you'll be paying $10 for a shot of it. It's just not that kind of whiskey.
I mean, even ri(1) might be reasonable as a mixer - if it had a less ridiculous name and came at $18 a bottle, I might have a totally different opinion of it! But there are expectations that come with Criterion Collection prices.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes i see it at the same price or $1 more than makers, knob, etc. and that's what gets me - why is a bottle so much more expensive than a bottle of makers?
― tehresa, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
makers is pretty much the gold standard for what whiskey snobs think is boring and overpriced, but is consistent in quality and gives you enough neutral bourbon flavor that isn't bland that it sells like hotcakes
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think anyone's dissing makers. i think we're confused about bh.
― tehresa, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
I'm somewhat dissing makers!
bh is indeed confusing
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
lol i thought you were defending it
― tehresa, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
No I like it quite a bit but I feel it's more of a commodity than a hot commodity, if you get my drift
― mh, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
definitely a safe bet, makers
― dan m, Monday, 20 June 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
One of the great things about Makers is that it's a good baseline bourbon - it's going to work in any cocktail recipe you find, whether you dredged it up from the Savoy or made a special trip to buy kalamansi and rau ram for a recipe from Rogue/Beta. If it doesn't work with Makers, the cocktail's no good.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
absolutely, makers is very utilitarian.
― tehresa, Monday, 20 June 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
i find the same for bulleit. (not the rye)
I love Bulleit in anything, but I've never been sure how objective I am about its versatility - probably one of my five favorite spirits. Well. Five favorite I can afford. The Charbay hopped whiskeys are mindblowing and I would drink them every day, but I'm never going to be able to afford to replace my review samples.
― Bill, Monday, 20 June 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
the sainsburys irish single malt is srsly good for £15
― nakhchivan, Monday, 20 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Yep, it's excellent. One of the best things Cooley is making at the moment.
There's been a great sale on there recently - a third off a lot of malts (Cardhu, Dalwhinnie, etc).
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
Very impressed with the Macallan Fine Oak 10 y/o that I just finished off.
― just call me brian (krakow), Monday, 20 June 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
I like to keep my old bottles after I finish the whisk(e)y, for display & memory purposes, but should I definitely be washing the bottles out or can I leave them?
I've been washing them thus far, but was wondering if I could leave them in order to maintain the slight smell of the whisk(e)y... Would this be a bad idea?
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
Won't hurt to leave them unwashed.
― nickn, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
went to the store today, one bottle on the shelf, i thought all this stuff had been distributed:
http://www.astorwines.com/images/itemimages/hr/24889_hr.jpg
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
My mum is heading to Chicago & Vancouver & environs in a few weeks & I am going to push her to try and pick me up some american whiskey once again...
I'd love George T Stagg or something relatively high-end in the bourbon or rye department that's a hell of a lot cheaper in the states if possible (from my understanding such things are roughly half the UK price if you can find them). I will have to get the low-down on her itinerary...
Aiding & abetting in this endeavour welcome!
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link
I'm used to spending £20-£30 for my single malts & ALL american whiskey is £20+ here, so I'd be willing to spend up to $60 or so (and possibly more for something worth it), to give you a price ballpark for ideas. Thanks!
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
Have you tried any of the higher-end Buffalo Trace bourbons? From my limited experience, they're superb. I don't think they're all that expensive either.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
she'll be in chicago? that means she'll be near binny's. here's their spirits search page:
http://www.binnys.com/spirits/search
that e.h. taylor i just posted about is 75--it's a one of a kind bottling from an experimental batch they did. they also have the jefferson's 17/18 year which are 80 and one of your last chances to get some stitzel-weller bourbon.
for rye they have rendezvous for 55 and it's a good one.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
binny's is otm
― dan m, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link
If their downtown Chicago stores are good then that could be fantastic, thank you! I think I might be able to persuade her to give up a couple of hours to visit a specific shop within the city centre in Chicago if I gave directions, instructions on what to look or ask for & some money beforehand...
Exciting!
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
ShariVari, I've only tried the standard Buffalo Trace, which I very much enjoy, so would certainly be interested in looking at their higher-end offerings.
My particular favourite Bourbon thus far is Knob Creek, so I've been wondering about their new Single Barrel version...
Thanks for the suggestions call all destroyer - the Binny's listings have me very excited; I will keep browsing...
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
i tried some of the knob single barrel - it was great.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
i picked up a bottle that is stashed for 4th of july weekend
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
This comparison of the usual Knob Creek and the new single barrel really makes keen to try it... http://sourmashmanifesto.com/category/reviewsratings/knob-creek-reviewsratings/
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
*makes me keen
Seconding the support for the Knob Creek single barrel - concentrated but so-subtle sweetness with a hell of a kick behind it.
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
macallan otm krakow
Am stuck tryin to finish a bottle of jura atm, not great but not gonna splash out again until it's done
― Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
Knob Creek is great also often on sale at TJs
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
ugh every time someone reminds me that cali tjs sell spirits i get so sad.
yeah the single barrell is WARM in your mouth but it doesn't burn. very clever.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
alcohol is a grocery!
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
at Trader Joe's in California you can buy a bottle of Laphroaig (the 10-year) for $28. Incredible. Here on the East Coast it's like $60. If I lived there I'd drink Laphroaig all the time
― geeta, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
We have hard liquor in all kinds of stores here but TJ doesn't sell it! I would assume their distribution chain does go this far.
― mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
*does = doesn't
ok wtf -- it's super expensive in Chicago too! $28 is truly incredible!! so jealous.
― Fa la la (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
that's a fair bit cheaper than laphroaig is here
even on discount it's usually above £20
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah--the weird thing is, single malt scotch is cheaper in California than it is in Scotland, where it's made
i know it's heavily taxed in Scotland, but the economics of scotch don't make any sense to me
― geeta, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
how cheaply can you get lagavulin
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
Lagavulin here on the East Coast is about $80 a bottle, last I checked.
not sure about California, but I'd wager it's around $60 there
i love the stuff--I have a bottle here on my shelf--but it's one of those things I ask people to buy me on my birthday. I don't get to drink it often enough
― geeta, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
The great thing about having a steady cash flow is that you can afford vices like that, if you pick and choose a few. The problem is that you have to pick them wisely, or you end up lusting after even more expensive scotch.
― mh, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
i got a few bottles of lagavulin for £30 a while ago
$60 is £40ish iirc which is a more usual price
it's a great whisky but not something you'd want to drink too often, i thought the same about laphroaig but i think lagavulin's iodiney/medicinal taste is yet more so
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
spent last night sampling maker's mark, knob creek,?woodford? reserve and jack daniels single barrel at a kinda posh bar
I think they were all v. nice, can't remember tbh.
― who shivs a git (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 July 2011 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
I've ordered a bottle of Knob Creek Single Barrel from Binny's, which my very kind mother will pick up next week and bring back to the UK for me in a few weeks.
Binny's were very helpful indeed via email.
Now the long anticipation...
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
awesome dude!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
got a bottle of laphroaig quarter cask, haven't tried it yet. it's pretty strong at 48% so i'm thinking maybe i should water it a bit?
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
was pretty all right without fwiw :):)
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, March 28, 2005 3:59 PM (6 years ago)
― am0n, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks cad, I'm really looking forward to it immensely!
I initially ordered one of the Binny's own KC Single Barrels, but they're all sold out. I decided to go with the KC as I know I already love the standard Small Batch version, so, what with the positive word on it so far, I'm certain I'm going to love the Single Barrel, especially with its extra 120 proof kick! Very cheap as well for a UK-er.
― just call me brian (krakow), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
anyone ever try the low budget single malts at trader joe's? (i guess this is a cali thing only?)
the speyburn "bradan orach" is pretty good at $14.99(!). light and smooth, B+
the lismore single malt is OK, some dispute if this is even a real single malt. it's a little harsh and metallic, not as good of a deal either at $16.99 B-
finlaggan is truly wretched, i mean i'm not really into islay but this tastes like lavoris. can't remember the price, probably $16.99 D- (good for pranking your guests i suppose)
― buzza, Thursday, 21 July 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
was super regular on the Lagavalin for a long time & it got to be regular which was weird. Enjoying it again after some time away.
for those in N Bklyn, pro-tip pricewise: BQE Liqu0rs.
― Snop Snitchin, Thursday, 21 July 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
oh i miss that store so much!
― tehresa, Thursday, 21 July 2011 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
My Knob Creek Single Barrel is safely in hand apparently! My maw is threatening to drink it though...
― just call me brian (krakow), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.forpeatsake.com/Images/Bottles/Johnnie_Walker/Johnnie_Walker_Johnnie_Walker_Black_Label_12_Years_Old_12_.jpg
― am0n, Sunday, 24 July 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
I see your Black Label and raise you...
http://www.thepurveyor.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/300x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/4/2/4226.jpg
Bought at 20% off because of a damaged box!
― just call me brian (krakow), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
xposted from the chicago thread
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282193_595836124505_203404218_31915724_5922809_n.jpg
― keillor can folk anything. and he will, and has. (dan m), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
What's the story there?
― just call me brian (krakow), Monday, 25 July 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
jokes, malort is awful stuff
― keillor can folk anything. and he will, and has. (dan m), Monday, 25 July 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Aha. I thought either a joke or some horribly unfortunate mix-up - you'd be a bit upset to get home and discover that after shelling out...
― just call me brian (krakow), Monday, 25 July 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
it's terrible. my dad is a malört obsessive but i decided this year to stop trying.
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
"Most first-time drinkers of Jeppson Malort reject our liquor. Its strong, sharp taste is not for everyone. Our liquor is rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) to the palate. During almost 60 years of American distribution, we found only 1 out of 49 men will drink Jeppson Malort. During the lifetime of our founder, Carl Jeppson was apt to say, 'My Malort is produced for that unique group of drinkers who disdain light flavor or neutral spirits.'
It is not possible to forget our two-fisted liquor. The taste just lingers and lasts - seemingly forever. The first shot is hard to swallow! PERSERVERE [sic]. Make it past two 'shock-glasses' and with the third you could be ours...forever"[1]
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
never had the stuff but that is lol
― original bgm, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
(even brutal)
bottom-shelf producers could learn something from this marketing
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
OTM, most people I know who swear by the stuff are into it for the total lowbrow awfulness.
― keillor can folk anything. and he will, and has. (dan m), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Banker's Club whiskey is the goregrind, the torture porn, the ball peen to the nuts of alcohol. Do you dare?
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
Picked up Russell's Reserve 6 yr rye. Pretty good! Smooth for a rye, at 90 proof
― mh, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
guys can't front for a basic-bottle goodness i think i'm a bushmills man
― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
― The sulky expression from the hilarious "Aubrey Plaza" persona (history mayne), Thursday, September 9, 2010 11:49 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark
clink. this is why i don't have a fancy phone.
― full on... mask hysteria (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2008/07/29/WireMain.jpg
"bushmills? we're very disappointed in you, darraghmac."
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
can't front
― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
i think i overdosed on glenfiddich 12 yr last weekend tbh
what's j&b like? i was watching a bunch of john carpenter films recently and that seemed to be the drink of choice. or maybe it was just kurt russell in 'the thing'
― ☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ja51IYJlbws/S8XqkOPaWZI/AAAAAAAAGGg/pet82X0iQkc/s400/screenshot5475.jpg
― ☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
It's ok. Not super sophisticated but has a lot of flavour. Going through a bottle of it at the moment when i'm not in the mood for a malt.
― Slice Me Nice (ShariVari), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
Patrick Bateman's drink of choice as well.
― just call me brian (krakow), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
Famous drinkers
It is Patrick Bateman's favourite drink in American Psycho in both the film and the novel.[1] It was Truman Capote's favourite drink: his particular eccentricity was to use its full name of "Justerini & Brooks" when requesting it at a store. If the clerk did not know what he meant he would take his business elsewhere. J&B is also notable as being Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy's favorite drink which he drank in prison in order to complete a test in which investigators were going to determine if an intoxicated Gacy was the reasoning for his murders.
― ☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
his particular eccentricity was to use its full name of "Justerini & Brooks" when requesting it at a store. If the clerk did not know what he meant he would take his business elsewhere.
a Yelper before his time
― I DIED, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
I like Jameson but my friend from Boston chastises me for "drinking Catholic"
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
jameson is also pretty good tbh, no shame in it.
so decidedly not a catholic drink rly
― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.jeffreymorgenthaler.com/2010/ask-your-bartender-protestant-vs-catholic-whiskey/
― I DIED, Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
also in kate hopkins' 99 drams of whiskey she tours bushmills and they're using their bottling line to bottle jameson's per some outsourcing arrangement
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
I actually get annoyed at people saying the "protestant whiskey" thing now. Well done, you've watched The Wire.
― Number None, Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
lol is it a thing in the wire? i agree it's irritating bullshit.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
drink powers or gtfo
― buzza, Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
'tches
― ☝ (am0n), Thursday, 11 August 2011 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
I've said it many times on this thread, but Redbreast is nectar of the gods.
― rockapads, Thursday, 11 August 2011 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
Bateman probably picked it up from Gacy in that case.
― just call me brian (krakow), Thursday, 11 August 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link
I've got my Knob Creek Single Barrel! I can't wait to try it this evening...
― just call me brian (krakow), Saturday, 13 August 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
report?
plain ol' Beam for me atm
― keillor can folk anything. and he will, and has. (dan m), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
I found the alcohol kick (it is 60% abv, 120 proof) quite hard to get past on my first try, as that extra strength is something I'm not used to. I've been feeling too tired recently to really try it properly yet, but will report back when I do so...
― just call me brian (krakow), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:32 (twelve years ago) link
i'm most of the way through my bottle. i've been mixing it in a 3:1 ratio with good spring water (that gets it down to 90 proof) and it's still kind of a fatiguing whiskey even tho i like it.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
hey guys,
Check this and click on "(more)" and check out the last paragraph!http://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/category.asp?cat_id=HELPSPIR11&lkid=184
― Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
haa <3
what are you going to buy?
― nakhchivan, Monday, 22 August 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
redbreast is the good stuff, yes
Dunno if i'm getting soft in my old age but i took some laphroaig last night and it tasted like peaty footcheese
― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure yet - need to check my notes! - wish I'd spend more time actually trying stuff below £100 now at the tasting (I was too busy imbibing the mega expensive stuff I could never afford).
This might be good thoughhttp://www.royalmilewhiskies.com/product.asp?pf_id=0010000027549
― Gary Numan, or Gary Fletcher (ken c), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
anyone else tried Feckin Irish Whiskey? I bought it because of lol name/ inside joke gift for my lady/ $1 cheaper than Jameson but it's pretty damn good. On the sweeter and heavier side.
― I have a room, you have a room, and the alligator has a roo (Whitey on the Moon), Monday, 5 September 2011 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
My friend who now lives in the US in Salem, Virginia is popping back to Glasgow next week and is happy to bring a bottle of something back with her! I think I'd like to get a Rye Whiskey this time if possible. Happy to spend up to $50 or so. She sent this photo of her local liquor store...
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l261/krakow81/327598_10150369232767165_586432164_10434807_1117373291_o.jpg
Any suggestions?
― just call me brian (krakow), Friday, 9 September 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
i have an affinity for the gentleman jack top right of that photo.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 9 September 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
good friend!
i have no idea in re: availability of this bottle, but since it's va, they might have the bowman virginia rye. a bottle of it shattered in my suitcase last week so i haven't tried it but i've heard good things. barring that, rendezvous rye is right in yr price range and i am a definite convert to that stuff.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 9 September 2011 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
so desperately want to be a whiskey guy. I've tried lots of really really good whiskey (old, rare etc) due to family being buffs but most of the time I'm nodding and agreeing. Do I need to be in a certain frame of mind?
― owenf, Friday, 9 September 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
I have a bottle of the Gentleman Jack awaiting opening, from when it was cheap in Asda briefly.
Thanks as always call all destroyer. I was thinking of asking if the High West Rendezvous were available, as I've seen lots of mentions of that, but it would be best to have some more certain choices as back up.
Rittenhouse 100 Bottled In Bond seems to get solid reviews too and would certainly be cheap by UK standards.
― just call me brian (krakow), Friday, 9 September 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, rittenhouse is a+ and is imo the archetype of classic rye.
one thing to consider is how you drink your whiskey. i tend to mostly mix with rye. rendezvous is a more satusfying sipper tho.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 9 September 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
I don't mix, definitely a straight sipper.
― just call me brian (krakow), Friday, 9 September 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
owenf, my honest advice is to buy something solidly midshelf (i don't know if you're interested in bourbon or scotch or irish) and drink it a glass or two at a time in a quiet place by yourself. whiskey is v. contemplative and you'll need to get away from big price tags and vocal family members so that you can decide what you think of it.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 9 September 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
that sounds like great advice. Form my own opinion. I have a good whiskey anecdote. My little sister had just turned 18 and got into partying/drinking which was a big change from the mild mannered girl she used to be. My parents, who she lived with at the time headed off on some cross US roadtrip or whatever for a few months and left her in charge of the house. My stepdad, being a farmer, had a huge store of ancient and expensive scotch in his cellar (farmers give gifts of good scotch to each other for christmas/birthdays/unpaid debts). Many parties ensued over this summer of freedom from the oppresive glare of authority and each time the supermarket booze ran out she'd run down into the cellar and grab a bottle of one of the many whiskeys adorning the walls which my gracious stepfather would accept but never drink (not a whiskey guy). Suffice to say some 20 bottles got mixed with cheap 'cola' and returned with the merest of remnants left in until some scottish dude came over about 5 years later and asked for a scotch.
― owenf, Friday, 9 September 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp, Rittenhouse is very good. Sazerac might be worth a look too, if they have it. Sazerac / Buffalo Trace is one of the most reliable vfm US distilleries.
― A little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility (ShariVari), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
george dickel on the middle shelf in that pic is a thread favorite iirc
― dan m, Saturday, 10 September 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
I just got a bottle of Bulleit, liking it a lot on first try.
― boxall, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
drinking dickel since hurricane irene when i went to get a bottle of rittenhouse and they were sold otu.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
how is it?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
good! it's much better than jack, as far as TN whiskies, but i'm not an expert in that arena. i mostly drink rye cuz bourbon is too sweet for me to sip all night.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 10 September 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
dickel is great! i wish diageo would actually bother to market it because it could convert some jack drinkers for sure.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
btw i like the idea of everyone stocking up on rittenhouse before the hurricane
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol me too, it made me smile; did not take it too bad.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
they were also out of bulleit, tbh
drinking Bulleit rye right now. i haven't had it in a while, since i posted about it earlier on this thread. it's hitting me nicely right now. a couple of ice cubes make the difference.
― rockapads, Saturday, 10 September 2011 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
We stocked up on Rittenhouse 100 a few years ago when the stocks were running low and the prices were heading up; I think we paid $13/bottle at the time, and it seems to be more like $20 now. Still have 15 bottles left. Definitely a good investment.
― toby, Saturday, 10 September 2011 06:54 (twelve years ago) link
I found this website.. http://www.abc.state.va.us/Pricelist/STRAIGHT_RYE_WHISKEY.html
― just call me brian (krakow), Saturday, 10 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
I've suggested/asked for one of...
- Rittenhouse 100 Proof Bottled In Bond Rye Whiskey- Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve Rye Aged 6 Years- Sazerac Rye 6 Years Old
Based on likely ease of availability, price and decent reviews.
― just call me brian (krakow), Saturday, 10 September 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
You're gonna love the Rittenhouse and Sazerac on their own, use the Wild Turkey Reserve for cocktails
― fear itself (Ówen P.), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Catoctin creek is awesome bc I have bottled it and the couple who makes it are a+ awesome! But it doesn't taste like most ryes at all - it's very round. I hate using words like that bc it's so douchey but I can't think of anything else!
I like redemption rye, but it's not on the list :(
― tehresa, Saturday, 10 September 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I don't want to put my friend to too much trouble by asking for non-big names that she'd feel obliged to hunt for... All of this stuff is exotic to me in Glasgow, so it's grand whatever!
― just call me brian (krakow), Sunday, 11 September 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
Hey Krakow, I am in Glasgow most new years and live in DC. Expect to be back there this year and live near a good bottle shop so plan ahead!
― ljubljana, Sunday, 11 September 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
Oooh! Thank you ljubljana, totally going to take you up on that implicit very kind offer!
― just call me brian (krakow), Sunday, 11 September 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
Also, my friend bought the Russell's Reserve Rye for me. She'll be here next week... Going to be my first ever rye whiskey!
― just call me brian (krakow), Sunday, 11 September 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not really sure I can tell a difference between all of these ryes. I guess I need to educate my taste buds more or something. I've tried the Sazerac, Rittenhouse, Overholt and Bulleit, and they all seem pretty comparable to me, except that the Overholt is something like $18 and the rest are all around $24.
― the wheelie king (wk), Sunday, 11 September 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
any difference between dickel and dickel sour mash? one had the label like in the pic above, other one had a green-ish label?
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Monday, 19 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't talked about weller 12 year enough in here.
best sub-$40 bourbon currently made.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah weller is really decent for how cheap it is!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
i'm a big fan of Connemara, which is what I'm currently drinking--a peated single malt from the west coast of Ireland. smoky and briny like 10-year Laphroaig but a bit lighter and smoother. I picked it up when I was in Ireland a few months ago. i haven't seen it for sale around the East Coast much but i believe you can get it in California
― geeta, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
This is awesome and very affordable. Makes a fantastic sour.
http://sjoerd972.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/willet-rye.jpg?w=225&h=663
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
given its provenance i had every reason to be suspicious of that bottling but i'm with you, it's very good.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
none of the va stores have willet, have to go into dc to find it.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
willett and weller, gonna keep an eye out
― dayo, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
bought booker's for a small get-together last night. mmm.
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
Willett pot still is unimpressive but all the limited bottlings are pretty amazing. Note the high proof!
― I DIED, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
Can't wait for payday so I can go buy a fancy bottle of single malt.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
dang george dickel is nice
― dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
maybe I shouldn't open new bottles at 1 in the afternoon
― dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
damn dude it is early!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
haha I am just eager to have a taste. like it better than bulleit.
btw saw weller too but it was like 'antique' or something - not the 12 yr yer talking about right
― dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, there are three wellers in those short fat bottles
weller antique - 107 proof, no age
weller special reserve - 90 proof, 7 years i think?
weller 12 year - 90 proof, 12 years
the other two are good budget bourbons but it's the 12 that is special
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
*mentally catalogues*
― dayo, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
Laphroaig on sale for $37! Auspicious start to the weekend.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 1 October 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
my parents are visiting this weekend, I bought a bottle of Dickel 12 for my old man and got him drunk <3
― dan m, Saturday, 1 October 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
i have never used anything except cocacola as chaser for whiskey, and i'm not entirely sure what else there is
― kelpolaris, Saturday, 1 October 2011 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
More whiskey.
― just call me brian (krakow), Saturday, 1 October 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, fuck a chaser imo, get a nice bottle and sip neat or on one rock.
― tehresa, Saturday, 1 October 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
one rock
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
one rock, two wisks
― dayo, Saturday, 1 October 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
enbb has no rocks in her house, and it makes me v sad
.
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 October 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
neat imo
― dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
i just don't enjoy a room temperature drink no matter what it is tbh
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 October 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
like i "get it" why one drihkns it neat i just don't dig it
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 October 2011 05:56 (twelve years ago) link
^^^texan
― tehresa, Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
room temperature is higher and dustier in texas iirc
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
true
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 October 2011 12:41 (twelve years ago) link
big ass whiskey sampling over here tonite
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
Bought some Macallan fine oak 10 yr yesterday. Delicious as always.
― ( ) (mh), Friday, 7 October 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
ancient ancient ageweller 12elijah craig 18very special old fitzgerald old bardstown 101turkey 101four roses sbwilliam larue weller
rendzvous ryewillet rye
plus whatever ppl bring
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
I wish I were your friend cad!
I bought Macallan Fine Oak 10 a couple of weeks ago too mh.
― gay for gordon-levitt (krakow), Saturday, 8 October 2011 07:39 (twelve years ago) link
My local spirits shop has a small Bourbon tasting today, which I will be going to on my lunch break to sample...
Evan Williams Black LabelElijah Craig 12yoNoah's Mill
― gay for gordon-levitt (krakow), Saturday, 8 October 2011 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
Got a new job a few weeks ago, and got a bottle of Blanton's from a friend in congratulations. So so so so good. Mmmmmmm!!!!
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 8 October 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
some quick notes:
ancient ancient age - sweet, good rye character. abrupt finish. can't complain - 17 bucks for 10 y.o. whiskey!michter's bourbon (someone brought this) - wtf is it? not kentucky or straight according to the label. thin body. harsh finish. kinda shitty.weller 12 - deep, rolling waves of caramel and vanilla. smooth. fireplace bourbon as someone said.old bardstown 101 - rye spice, grassy or plantlike quality. quick finish. good no-bullshit sipping.turkey 101 - the turkey flavor profile is so easy to understand. heat, spice, a bit sweet in the finish. not very refined but that's its main good quality.elijah craig 18 - bizarre nose. muted flavor--a little boring? need to try again. still haven't found a heaven hill product that speaks to me.4 roses sb (oesq recipe) - go to the 4 roses website sometime--when you get in the big splash word is "MELLOW" which i have to lol at because 4 roses bourbons are almost cerebral--tons of flavors and overtones, many of which are not obvious. this one is medium body, medium sweetness with these odd banana-bubblegum flavors going on. really brings the complexity and totally delicious.william larue weller - sweetness bomb! 120-something proof, it's basically like drinking both the creme brulee and the blowtorch. big, big flavors.
i need to re-taste the ryes because whatever was left of my pallet got absolutely wrecked by the weller.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
120-something proof, it's basically like drinking both the creme brulee and the blowtorch
recommendation imo
― at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
tonight sipping gelnfiddich 12 yo from a flask, doens't seem right but it's what's for dinner
― at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
have you tried mixing two parts everclear to one part baileys xp?
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 8 October 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
if you tell me what everclear is i'll figure out my local equivalent and let you know
had poitin last month btw. imma try to get a bottle, apparently i'd have to go 'down home' and ask the milkman, he'll drop it in with the semi-skinned one of the days.
― at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
haw
i remember my uncle had brought some illicit poitin over back in the day
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 8 October 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
The quality of poitín was highly variable, depending on the skill of the distiller and the quality of his equipment. If poorly produced it can contain dangerous amounts of methanol and can blind or kill.
real talk
― at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
but twasn't bad, the stuff i had, tbh.
― at-zing-two-boards (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
caramel flavor on george dickel 12 yr is just outrageous
― 2001: a based godyssey (dayo), Sunday, 9 October 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
ok i gotta try this
― tehresa, Sunday, 9 October 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
ladies and gents, I have long (mis)regarded Johnnie Walker as a go-to drink for people who prize labels and such over a quality drink, but I feel I've been mistaken. Anyone have any recommendations for which to buy and for what purpose? I've had some mixed/on-ice drinks w/red label, not sure where the quality line is when it comes to "just sip this neat", etc.
when it comes down to it, I can pour nearly any whiskey in a glass and start chugging but serving ideas and opinions are appreciated
― ( ) (mh), Sunday, 9 October 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
JW black is pretty good, rather mellow and smooth and therefore a little bit boring. but a decent choice. I'd take it over jack daniels but not before jim beam.
― 2001: a based godyssey (dayo), Sunday, 9 October 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Just got given a bottle of Highland Park as a gift. The tasting is about to commence.
― owenf, Sunday, 9 October 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Oh man, I love Highland Park!
― ( ) (mh), Sunday, 9 October 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
va abc had the knob creek single barrel $3 off so i got some. had a bit last night. much less in your face than i remember from the first time i had it.
― tehresa, Sunday, 9 October 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
xxxxp, JW Black is one of my favourite widely-available blended whiskies. It has a briney, smoky quality that i think comes, in part, from Talisker and Caol Ila. Green and Gold are fruitier. All three are very good.
Haven't tried Blue yet (may do so tomorrow). Red is nothing special but decent enough.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 9 October 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
never tried it. Excited.
― owenf, Sunday, 9 October 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
drinking Highland Park was a protip from musician J4mes L3yland K1rby when I talked to him for about a minute about whiskey
― ( ) (mh), Sunday, 9 October 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
how old is your highland park? the 18 might be my annual bonus self-gift this year.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
I know I've sampled the 18. but I've only bought the younger varieties, I believe.
― ( ) (mh), Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
johnnie walker black is great for all sorts of stuff imo. i forget where i read it but i read something to the effect of anyone who drinks scotch will happily drink johnnie walker black. it makes a good rusty nail too.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
a 200 or 375 ml of jwb is ideal if youre going to a party with an unclear booze situation
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
it's a 12 year.
― owenf, Sunday, 9 October 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
and delicious
― owenf, Sunday, 9 October 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
better and better as it goes on. I could get into this whiskey business.
― owenf, Sunday, 9 October 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
getting tanked on anCnoc tonight
though i'm also chewing gum
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 November 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
Going to drink a nice glass or two of Templeton Rye tonight. Stoked.
― rockapads, Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
oh man I missed all those CAD recommendations upthread, gotta try the Weller 12.
― sleeve, Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
just opened another bottle of laphroaig
i think i am a bit bored by laphroaig and its ridiculous briny peatiness
#1stwp
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
laphroaig is a bit much tbph
tried an 8 yr (?) wild turkey the last night and did not enjoy, maybe i need to get a bottle of rye and just work through it
― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
i know what you mean but i haven't had a proper islay whisky in months and find myself sort of craving it at times. it comes and goes i guess.
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
as another US poster told you on the Premier League thread, Wild Turkey is not so great. (xp)
― boxall, Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
finally finished the workmanlike jura last week, shelf atm reads p boring- paddy (purely for toddies), jack (purely for coke), bushmills and jameson so i've got an excuse to go hunting soon
xp yeah boxall but i think a few repped for the more agéd bottles itt and i couldn't really make out the lettering on the other bottles at the time tbph
― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:20 (6 minutes ago)
totally
sometimes i just notice the phenols/brine and it's a bit much
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
deems u should try the sainsburys irish single malt if u are going over the border, cheaper and better than jameson's imo
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, it's pretty much the same as Tyrconnell.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
yes i think that's a goer
― ₪_₪ (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
do you think whiskies oxidize in the bottle? the george dickel I opened a month ago isn't tasting so great now.
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
It's trying to tell you something.
― boxall, Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
Got sold on a bruichladdich 12 and I don't know how I feel about it. Ledaig 10 is p delish though I am really just getting into scotch. I know I like the skunkier stuff tho it makes yr piss smell the next day
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:02 (1 minute ago)
not a lot, and not in that timespan
the disaffection is probably more subjective, you ought to ask yourself 'what did this whisky mean to me, and have things changed between us?'
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
things have become more bitter in my life, it's true
my other theory - drinking directly from the bottle, my spittle has transmogrified the whiskey
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
ha i was going to update this thread wrt whisky the other day
drinking wine straight out of the bottle
― The Green Path of Hope is formed (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
I just had another swig and the flavor which I liked returned
guess I must be feeling good today
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
boxall you do not just hate in wild turkey and get away with it.
i feel increasingly like a lone voice in the wilderness but turkey 101 is really, really good!
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 November 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
Hey Krakow, thoughts on your order? Still planning to be round your way at new year. My local booze place is 2 mins away so easy to check what they have.
― ljubljana, Saturday, 12 November 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
You are so not alone. Having a Turkey 101 Manhattan right NOW.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 12 November 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 November 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
I had a little extra money this week and I bought some 101. It makes the best old fashioneds I've ever made. *hic*
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 12 November 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
Might make myself one after I finish with this 4Loko. *falls to the floor*
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 12 November 2011 04:29 (twelve years ago) link
Cold weather is here, so I bought a bottle of Michael's Celtic Irish Cream. I didn't have any ice cubes made yet, so I am starting with some Dalwhinnie. When the ice is ready, I am taking a bath.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 12 November 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
Hey ljubljana, that would be really fantastic and very kind of you! Thank you so much!
I would need some inspiration... Maybe another rye, or a high/medium-end bourbon that is not available here in the UK? I'm still in the same kind of <£50~$80 world. Suggestions welcome as always.
I will send you a message just now...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Sunday, 13 November 2011 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
Got it, about to reply. I have not really kept up with this thread, so others should feel free to chip in and offer Krakow inspiration according to his rough criteria above...
― ljubljana, Sunday, 13 November 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
i had to go through the thread to see what your most recent acquisition was, krakow. what did you think of the russell's reserve rye?
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 November 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
I've enjoyed it so far. I've found it to be subtler than the bourbons I know - a different kind of sweetness. It's been a while since I last tried it though, so I will do so again this week...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Sunday, 13 November 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
interesting - i always think that ryes are a lot livelier than bourbons.
― tehresa, Sunday, 13 November 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
so my kitchen has been under renovation for a week now--no counters, no sink, had to move my entire bar to the living room floor. only thing to do is drink cheap-ish whiskey out of the same glass every night. it's been a great time to revisit dickel #12 which is still so great, so unknown, so underappreciated.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
Just picked up bottles of Willett 18-year "No Chemists Allowed", Ardbeg Uigeadail, Old Pulteney 17, and replenished my stores of Eagle Rare 10, Rittenhouse 100 proof, and Jameson. Oh lovely whiskey day!
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
In typical Willett uncut/unfiltered bottling fashion where they get stronger as they age and bottle them that way, the Willett 18 is 142.4 proof. Crazy. Always easier to add water than to take it away though.
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
let me know how that willett is! i just heard about the bottling and am pretty interested.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
hmmmm further research indicates that it may be a DC-specific bottling?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah there's a distributor here that buys casks and does each as a bottling, so they only yield 100-150 bottles of each series. Mostly they go to bars in the area but a few go retail.
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
that's fantastic--really wish someone around here would select some willett/kbd barrels like that.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
my dad bought us a big jug of Bulleit bourbon over the holidays. Definitely more spicy than the Buffalo Trace I had been enjoying, but still good.
― Moodles, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
lately drinking rowan's creek and old overholt. when i can't find rittenhouse around for cheap, overholt is my next go-go whiskey for everyday drinking. also got a bottle of elmer t. lee for my birthday from co-workers but that did not last long.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 6 January 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
The fact that Old Overholt is generally available for $11-13 a bottle (around here at least) is a godsend that means people have no excuse not to drink well.
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Saturday, 7 January 2012 08:03 (twelve years ago) link
there was a (previously opened) bottle of old overholt from 1935 at my grandfather's house. we all sampled it. held up pretty well!
― tehresa, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
I rarely make mixed drinks at home, but last night I enjoyed a rye + grapefruit soda.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
I went to a wheat whiskey tasting flight during the sandbox and actually took notes cuz of this thread, but all I remember now is that Spokane's Dry Fly Wheat was surprisingly delicious, light and a bit sweet.
― sleeve, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
I can just imagine all my Kentucky friends wrinkling their noses and saying "that ain't whiskey"
― sleeve, Monday, 9 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
they only had weller 7 year and weller 'antique reserve' at the place I went to, so I got the natique reserve
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
also panicked when I thought i couldn't locate george dickel on the shelf, spotted it just as I walked out *phew*
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
i think the antique is also 7 yrs fwiw
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but it's antique
j/k I didn't recognize anything else, it was between that and the four roses (which I've had before).
is sazerac any good?
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
both of those wellers are great! only diff between the two for now is the proof i think.
sazerac is.....not my favorite but lots of people like it and it's certainly worth trying.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
Picked up a bottle of Buffalo Trace for when I run out of Knob Creek and/or the Old Weller 107 I have lined up. But frankly I'm confused these days by how many of these whiskeys come from the same place. Like, Buffalo Trace alone produces some 15 or so, from Sazerac to WL Weller.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
went to the liquor store nearest my house yesterday and their whiskey section was ridiculous, but not in a good way!
they had:Evan WilliamsOld WilliamsburgRedemption Rye (this is what I got)and some low, low level scotch called SOMEthing like "Scottish Warrior" or "Highland Rebel" or something. i think it was $11/750ml..
AND THAT'S IT.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
josh raises an important point, and i encourage you all to scope this post:
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=259267&postcount=73
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
The fact that Old Overholt is generally available for $11-13 a bottle (around here at least) is a godsend that means people have no excuse not to drink well.― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Saturday, January 7, 2012 3:03 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Saturday, January 7, 2012 3:03 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
$9.15 at Montgomery County liquor stores. Which ALMOST reconciles me to MoCo's and Maryland's liquor distribution laws.
($8.65 for Pikesville Supreme, $20 for Bulleit Rye, $16 for Rittenhouse BiB...if it hasn't all sold out.)
― stop me before i eat again (j.lu), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
ian, let us know how you like the redemption! i am very fond of it.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
I like Redemption too. I'll take Overholt over Pikesville any day. Last weekend I had Hudson Rye which maybe has been my favorite, next to Hirsch.
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
But I can't bring myself to pay $50 for this small bottlehttp://tuthilltown.com/wp-content/products/man-rye-whsk-300x300.jpg
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's a decent young rye but the price is stupid
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
Even at the bar it was $18 dollars for a shot and a half with one big cube of ice.
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
i've always wanted to try it but also can't bear paying for it.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
they need to do the 375ml bottles because at $100 for a 750 people would realize they can get much better ryes at the same or lower price.
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
You're paying for the bottle shape w/ those. I don't think any of them are that hot.
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
^^ this is super interesting, and makes it v frustrating when you read about e.g templeton and they lump it in with microdistillers
― just sayin, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah there's a depressing amount of misinformation out there; templeton is one of the worst offenders
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
Kelly gets a couple of bottles of Manhattan Rye every time she goes back to NY. I like it a lot, it's much smoother than any of the ryes I can find down here, but 4x the cost of Bulleit rye is crazy.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Another quirky thing about the distilleries is that in some cases a distillery or brand goes out of business but there's a ton of bourbon still aging that later gets bought and bottled. To make things really confusing, by this time the brand name may also have been sold and resurrected so that the older bottles that are newly available may not be coming from the same place as the new production.
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
Templeton is pretty hilariously vague and I don't think they spread misinformation per se, they just talk a lot about what they actually do in their "factory" in flowery terms and talk about their recipe and bottling while conveniently leaving out the distilling and aging bits.
I read a pretty great interview with the Van Winkle who's currently running that brand in Lucky Peach magazine. I guess their selection process has always been to have the current scion of the family walk through a warehouse tasking from different barrels and then selecting the ones to be blended and sold as Pappy Van Winkle. Used to be the Stitzel-Weller warehouse, but since they've been bought it's a different location.
― mh, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i read that too, even got me to buy a bottle
― just sayin, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'll have to check that--both julian and preston seem like cool dudes
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
I was cracking up because in the interview he cracked some political remark that made him sound very much like he's from bourbon country (or county, even) but he pulled up in a Van Winkle-branded Smart car!
― mh, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
hahahah
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
lest we get too cheerful here's a dire prediction about the state of older bourbon from one retailer:
"If you thought we were finally coming out of the great American whiskey shortage, I’m sorry to inform you otherwise. We’ve only reached the tip of the iceberg from what I can see. Black Maple Hill 16 is now gone forever from what I can tell. We won’t be seeing that one again. Even the Black Maple Hill Small Batch is in jeopardy, it seems. I’ve been hearing that Elijah Craig 18 is running on thin ice as well. Vintage 17 doesn’t appear to be coming back and we’ve already seen how difficult getting aged expressions from Buffalo Trace has become. I have a feeling that 2012 is only going to get worse for older Bourbon and rye expressions. Both Elmer T Lee and Eagle Rare are currently out of stock, and we’ve heard rumors that Eagle Rare may not be coming back this year. If you’re a fan of older Bourbon, now might be the time to start hoarding. It’s only a matter of time before they all start hurting."
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Hirsch rules.
My brother, who lives in Iowa, sent me a bottle of Templeton Rye. Havent tried it yet, but Im looking forward to it. Any good?
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Redemption is fine. It's a bit harsher than Overholt, which is what i've been drinking since it's become more difficult to find Rittenhouse, but if how quickly i've been drkinking it is any indication then i seem to like it quite a lot.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
also don't want to pay $$ for a small bottle of hudson whiskey, or a shot of it, to the point where i am kind of like "fuck those guys."
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
they are, uh, not real popular with either bourbon drinkers or other small distillers from what i've seen.
you can make a pretty good manhattan with the rye though.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
guys, i am fully signing off on jim beam devil's cut, it is a wonderful product imo
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 January 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
Really? i gotta try that. ive been tempted.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 January 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
It's really not that hard to find Rittenhouse, is it? It was for a few weeks, I guess. I read that rye is I guess a particularly ... sticky spirit to make, which is why so few make it and why it's sometimes hard to find.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
i heard it would be back in new england two months ago and it still isn't. luckily i have a stash of about 2.5 bottles.
i don't think the supply issues have as much to do with actual mashing/distilling challenges (though yes rye is a bit more annoying) than sales and demand. despite the cocktail revival and whatnot, rye sales numbers remain miniscule when compared to bourbon, so they used to only spend like four days a year distilling rye for rittenhouse. they're distilling more than that now, but what they were doing 4 years ago can't match the modest increase in demand that's been happening.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
I just moved to Atlanta, and there is a liquor store called Total Wine that is better than anything in NJ (where i lived for 15 years). Im going to use this thread as a checklist for everytime i go in there.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 January 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
They have about 4 different grades of George Dickel, going up to 16 (i believe), relatively ceheap too.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 January 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, January 13, 2012 9:12 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
btw on this, yeah. it's a fun, characterful bourbon with good spice and woodiness and it's just a little rough around the edges. not "smooth" but not firewater at all. way more interesting than either beam regular or beam black.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 January 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks,i'll try it. And I misspoke above, it's Dickel 12
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 January 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
Bought my first bottle of Prichard's Rye and it's not bad, not bad at all. On my second old fashion now.
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 07:11 (twelve years ago) link
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, January 13, 2012 12:07 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
p sure this is a nat'l chain (there's at least one in NJ iirc and a few in CA). been wanting to try it but the nearest one to me is deep in the valley.
― Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:10 (twelve years ago) link
hey guys got any suggestions as to what may be a good bottle of single malt for around £100?
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
i just found £100 in my offshore account so thought I'd blow it on a bottle of single malt
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
sure this is a nat'l chain (there's at least one in NJ iirc and a few in CA). been wanting to try it but the nearest one to me is deep in the valley.
^it is. ive been to the one in West Orange, NJ, and it's nowhere near as good as the one down here. it's like being a kid in a candy store for me.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
Id still love to find a bottle of Old Portero somewhere.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
i just found £100 in my offshore account so thought I'd blow it on a bottle of single malt― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:16 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:16 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And there I was, pondering what to treat myself to after getting my DC tax refund. I will neither spend it on a single-malt whisky nor spend it all on an artisanal rye, but thanks for the inspiration!
― Seraphim? I don't even know him! (j.lu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/magazine/drinking-ernest-shackletons-whisky.html
I'm just sort of in awe of all this, Shackleton is p fascinating to me as it stood already.
― long duk dan (dan m), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:15 AM
http://whiskeysecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Laphroaig-whisky.jpg
― am0n, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
the 18 yr rather
― am0n, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
i'm skipping over thousands of posts straight to the end, but, have you guys had the bulleit rye? it is nice. i am on a rye kick.
― more like slayla (NZA), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
not yet. closest i've come is one of the willett cask strength ryes.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
btw if for any reason an ilxor just happened to be in the central kentucky area i would be more than willing to take them to tour one or more of the many distilleries in the area (off the top of my head buffalo trace, four roses, makers mark, woodford reserve, wild turkey all within 30 minutes of here)
― more like slayla (NZA), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
awww man every year i say i'm going to do the bourbon trail and every year something comes up. but we should kick it if i ever get my act together.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
insider tip on bourbon trail: you have to start EARLY, all distillery tours shut down at 3pm.
― more like slayla (NZA), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
one of our future vacations is going to be a bourbon trail/horses thing. who knows when. but some day.
i love bulleit, but i'm not a fan of their rye ;(
― tehresa, Friday, 10 February 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
Rittenhouse 100 FTW.
― Seraphim? I don't even know him! (j.lu), Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
I got a bottle of Jefferson Presidential Select for my birthday. Never heard of it but can't wait to try!
― Wild Flag Post (dan m), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
nice gift! 17 or 18 years old?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
18
― Wild Flag Post (dan m), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
You know what sucks? Cutty Stark. Boo.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
Just got a bottle of the small batch Black Maple Hill last night. I really like it. A lot.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
Cutty Shark goes down rough even cut with water. Almost finished my bottle of Russell's Reserve Rye, it's not bad.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Good call somewhere up there about the Jim Beam Devil's Cut. Not generally a Beam fan, but this is good stuff.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
it was "call all destroyer"s recommendation. a good one
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
glad u liked, bill.
speaking of russell's reserve rye, i dont know if anyone here is a fan of regular wild turkey 101 proof rye, but if you are you may want to grab the next couple bottles you see. there's an 81 proof wt rye expression coming out soon, and while the 101 isn't going away completely, it's going to get a lot tougher to find.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
How does the Wild Turkey Rye compare to Russell's Reserve or Jim Beam ? Is it as sweet? I've never been a fan of WIld Turkey.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
i've never had the russell's reserve rye so can't make that comparison but wt rye is for sure better than any of the current beam ryes and imo not as good as rittenhouse. it's too hot for me but some people swear by it.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone tried Angel's Envy bourbon? Heard nothing but good things.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
at home lately been drinking rittenhouse (available again in local spots! hurray!) and a bottle of rebel reserve i bought on a whm; it's not bad.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 2 March 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
hah when rittenhouse came back to mass last month i went a little nuts; now have 5 unopened bottles to get me through the lean times.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 2 March 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
I think Ritterhouse is one of the only Ryes I haven't tried. Maybe it's not stocked in the south.
― JacobSanders, Friday, 2 March 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
where are you, jacob? rittenhouse availability varies wildly from state to state but most places get a little bit i think.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 2 March 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
Texas
― JacobSanders, Friday, 2 March 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
After a small birthday taste with my dad that wasn't really enough to judge by, I had a glass last night. Outside of high-end scotch this is the most complex drink I've ever had. Amazingly smooth and it seems to activate all the different taste areas of my tongue. So good I almost feel bad about consuming it.
― Wild Flag Post (dan m), Friday, 2 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
wow, that's quite a recommendation!
― tehresa, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Rittenhouse abounds here. Surprise twist: Old Overholt makes a better Old Fashioned!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
xp i'd agree, i love my jeffersons 18!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
Went to a tasting last night, got to try some rare/expensive stuff, some faves were:
Strathisla 40Talisker 30Laphroaig 25
The Laphroaig in particular was a revelation because I don't like the standard one at all. Much smoother and the peat wasn't obnoxious anymore. Lovely aftertaste. Could never afford a bottle though!
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'm quite tempted to join one of the Master of Malts tasting clubs, or at least get some of their sample sets.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
Just read a book by some woman food blogger who goes to Europe to learn about whiskey (it ends with what I felt was a cursory take on bourbon). Anyway, I was surprised to learn that the Scotch and Irish whiskey was just as corporate and incestuous as the American whiskey industry, owned by the usual multi-nationals and rarely owned by a company of the same nationality (ie French company owning Irish whisky company, etc.). As always, there are exceptions. But still, for example, Laphroaig was for a long time owned by Pernod Ricard. Now it's owned by Beam, Inc.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah pernod ricard still owns a couple of brands i think?
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.pernod-ricard.com/en/pages/282/pernod/Brands/Whiskies.html
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 8:12 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
99 drams of whiskey, right? i read this, it was ok. she def did not do justice to bourbon. but she also got most of her facts right which is hard to do in this industry.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, that book. Was OK. Better is "And a Bottle of Rum," which I'm reading now. Very informative and entertaining.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
To access the Brands section of Pernod Ricard website, you must be over the legal drinking age and legally permitted to view these pages in the country that you are in.
― ledge, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
bump for cad, he seems grumpy tonight
I am digging this weller 107, it feels like I need to cut it w/ water but I am always too lazy to so maybe I am missing out on some flavor
― flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
thx buddy :)
i have an unopened barrel selection weller 107 that i'm v. excited about! i will probably end up cutting it a tiny bit but nbd.
i've been wanting to try some of the common, yet random, midshelf bourbons so i bought some 1792 ridgemont. it's pretty good! kind of a crowd pleaser in re: its sweetness level but i get a lot of grain character from it, in a good way.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
ha. i'm always tempted by low-end whiskeys i've never tried before. that's how i ended up with this bottle of rebel reserve. it's not a bad bottle, i guess, but i'm not connoisseur. i always thought i didn't like wheated bourbons much, but this is alright.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
I always appreciate when ILX tells me "whiskey has new answers", because yes it does.
― I DIED, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone tried fighting cock bourbon? the name puts me off (animal fighting is wrong.) but it's aged 6 yrs and 103 proof and pretty cheap.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
minor googling suggests that fighting cock has a high rye content & good reviews = i will try this.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
try it! i had a glass in a bar once and thought it was pretty good.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
i think at the proof + age + price it's a total winner.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
i've had fighting cock! not bad for price.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
ok, i'm legit curious here, hopefully i won't get zinged into oblivion... why american whiskey over scotch? i love me some scotch but don't have much experience with quality bourbon or rye. is it a taste thing, or are there cultural aspects as well? or is this literally the whiskEy thread, as opposed to whisky? /noob
― how did we get here how? (ytth), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
ok, in anticipation of March 17, any recommendations on "high-end" and/or noteworthy irish whiskies beyond the usual suspects. i see that my local trader joe's recently started selling a house brand single malt irish but i am skeptical
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
xp I just don't dig on the peatyness of scotch as much as I do on the charcoalness of bourbon, I think
― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link
and I always thought the spelling of the thread was coincidence as much as anything, have seen plenty of ppl discuss scotch here
― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
there's much more to scotch than peatyness, i find bourbon more one-dimensional (ie too sweet)
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:10 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda hate scotch, sorry, but i like bourbon
― kim tim jim investor (harbl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
what harbl said. Most scotch tastes like plastic to me.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
Don't know where you all are from, but in general American spirit tastes tend toward the sweet. Hence our national distrust of bitters, which abound in Europe (there's a good chapter on this in Jason Wilson's "Boozehound"). Not that scotch is bitter, but our tastebuds I think gravitate toward the caramel sweetness of bourbon. Also, made in America, USA USA USA!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe I've been drinking the wrong bourbons but I always get sour, not sweet. Scotch 4 life.
― ledge, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
Sour? Really?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
xps,
It doesn't necessarily pay to be sceptical of house-brand Irish whiskeys. There are only three working distilleries in the country, as far as i recall, so the cheap stuff is going to be made by the same people who do the higher end bottling. The Sainsbury's supermarket own-brand Irish malt in the UK is made by Cooley and is pretty great. It's probably just one of their regular lines (most likely Tyrconnell) with a different label.
More generally, Redbreast 12 y.o is good, iirc.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2348846991_ba64ef1aab.jpg
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:15 (twelve years ago) link
scotch is good tbh. so is bourbon. and irish too! getting drunk is amazing!!
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh my god xp
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
well it's prob more complex that 'sour' but definitely something far away from sweet that doesn't sit well with me.
― ledge, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
xxp, There has to be about £7 of tax on a 700ml bottle of 40% whisky, doesn't there? Might draw a line at Tesco own-brand scotch.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:54 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the big thing of the moment in irish whiskey is redbreast cask strength
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
― how did we get here how? (ytth), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:46 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is tricky because i don't *dislike* scotch but in general it's been harder for me to find scotches i really like than bourbons. peaty/smokey scotches are a very, very occasional pour for me, i have no idea how ppl drink those every day. the other issues i have with scotch are the sweet/honeyed thing you get from bottlings that have spent time in sherry casks (which gets really fatiguing imo), and the fact that so little scotch is bottled at cask strength, or even at 90-100 proof.
when ppl say they find bourbon as a category "too sweet" i really want to know what they've been drinking because while that is a pitfall i don't think it's that hard to avoid.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
oh also duh the price point of bourbon vs. scotch in usa is a huge thing
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:45 (twelve years ago) link
That's for sure. Also, bourbon is marketed a lot better over here; there's a class component at play.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
For me bourbon doesn't have as much complexity, and isn't quite as "dry" as scotch, both of which might be functions of the same underlying thing, I dunno
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link
i find myself really drawn to peaty scotches I think in part bc I love bourbon so much -- I see a bottle of brown stuff and my brane expects a certain flavor profile and the mellower scotches just seem like 'bourbon gone bad,' for lack of a better term. I want the difference between the two to be distinct.
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link
xpost We've already re-established that you left the country. You've turned your back on bourbon!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
I've become a posh-o, just ask Lamp
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
I love the hell out of scotch
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno if it's any indication but i wouldn't think twice before dumping some bourbon into a coke but i wouldn't ever put a nice single malt with a mixer (except a dash of water)
maybe it's an indication that i haven't bought any expensive bourbon
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
Mixing anything with coke - some might say mixing any spirit, period - has its historic roots in making otherwise horrible swill palatable. Though frankly, while I have no problem mixing bourbon, there really aren't that many great bourbon cocktails. And there are even far, far fewer scotch cocktails. I think it has less to do with its quality than it does its taste.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
and that's why god gave us rye
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
I had a couple Wild Turkey + ginger beer drinks last night
I am a horrible savage for mixing
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
no way! that sounds delicious.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
It is my guilty vice, the whiskey + ginger beer combo. Ginger beer is pretty much the most sugary thing ever and so, so gingery
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
jameson mixes well if you want to go that route. highballs are fun!
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
a local bar/pizza place has a cocktail that involves jameson, ginger, cherry, and maybe pineapple?
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
went to one of those free jameson film nights they do around here, the cocktails they gave us were pretty disgusting (but free!! so who cares)
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
quite like an old fashioned though
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
(not with jameson, obvs)
― mh, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
I love anything that tastes super earthy -- coffee, scotch, beets.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
In fact, a little of each every day isn't such a terrible idea.
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
new cocktail?
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
man you can dump Beam into Coke all night, but there are plenty of bourbons where doing so would be sooooo problematic imo
― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
the bourbons/tennessee whiskeys that are good in coke are really not that awesome on their own, imo
dickel is ok, jack daniels is way too sweet, I just am not that into Beam's low-end offering
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
when ppl say they find bourbon as a category "too sweet" i really want to know what they've been drinking
i've tried lots of bourbons in the last few years, and there is definitely a range (i guess i like the "dry" end) but there is a base sweetness to all bourbon that doesn't appeal that much to my tastebuds.
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
American whiskey is now sold in more than 100 countries. The leading markets are the United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, Australia, and Japan. Key emerging markets for American whiskey are China, Vietnam, Brazil, Chile, Romania, and Bulgaria
bourbon finally finding a home in the balkans
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
i would strongly recommend wild turkey 101 for bourbon and coke...marginally more expensive but it has the proof and character to elevate that drink a bit.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
wild turkey is a good buy
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
― utopian dipshit (buzza), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:54 AM
http://www.passportwineandspirits.com/images/wky7.jpg
trader joes has a single malt scotch too, not sure i'd go there
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
lol i wonder what the age is on the tj's scotch?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
10 years
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
wow! i thought it might be a mcclelland's-like 3-5 year old.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
i think they might have more than one. costco has them too, like re-branded macallan and bowmore
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i've heard of the costco ones. wish tj's around here could say liquor because i'd like to try this.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
*sell liquor
My understanding is that the TJs liquor (sold only in CA, I believe) is name-brand but labeled for TJs. For example, Trader Joe's vodka is Belevedere, I was told. Dunno who makes their tequila or scotch, but I hear it's not bad. I think they also sell some name brand scotch, too. (Our local TJs sells sake, sherry and vermouth, but mostly sticks that that fortified wine territory).
My favorite scotch cocktail is the Penicillin. Blended scotch, lemon juice, ginger honey syrup, float of something peaty like the Laphroaig 10 on top.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's a good cocktail
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
BTW, a TJ's now carries the Bulleit rye as well as the bourbon, at the same price ($20). I have a bottle that I haven't opened yet.
― nickn, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
guh
Costco has the bourbon here at that price, but not the rye as of the last time I checked.
I finally decided displaying my collection of empty bulleit bottles on the kitchen shelf was really low class but I haven't had the heart to recycle them yet. Anyone have any ideas about what I could do with about 25 of them?
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
Use them to make infusions! Vinegar, vodka, oil, whatever!
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
(wash first though)
ever have interest in making infusions or liqueurs or something? take the labels off and they would be good for storing those.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp great minds etc etc
mother's day presents?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
infusions a good idea!
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
four thieves vinegar is perfect for spring
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
also warding off witches/plague
http://nourishedkitchen.com/four-thieves-vinegar-recipe/
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
<i>Don't know where you all are from, but in general American spirit tastes tend toward the sweet. Hence our national distrust of bitters, which abound in Europe (there's a good chapter on this in Jason Wilson's "Boozehound"). Not that scotch is bitter, but our tastebuds I think gravitate toward the caramel sweetness of bourbon. Also, made in America, USA USA USA!</i>
uhhh i am not familiar with this bitters hate. and i don't like overly sweet bourbons! i just like bourbon better. and rye. rye is my answer to wanting something a bit dryer.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
some day i will learn bbcode and not rely on remembering to "convert simple html to bbcode"
scotch tastes kind of 'thin' compared to bourbon, for me at least
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
nikka from the barrel is sick (as is ardbeg 10)
― byan wein (cozen), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
Yep. My favourite blend and my favourite malt.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
tried the nikka yoichi tonight, it was really nice. yamazaki is another great japanese whisky obviously but whatever you do, never drink 10 year old isawa single malt. literally tastes like an old bike shop.
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
Fighting Cock 1st impressions: this is good, not as complex as I was perhaps hoping for, but not thin like a lot of what i consider 'bland' bourbons. Would buy again, and at $22/liter it's affordable.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
also re: bourbon sweetness. i think it is the sweetness in some bourbons that put me more into the rye train tbh--i find things like makers, beam, turkey, even knob creek, can become a bit cloying after a few drinks.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
i find knob especially to be pretty sweet
― tehresa, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
yamazaki is another great japanese whisky obviously
obv
― truth fromgbs (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
Buffalo Trace is the best default bargain whiskey, methinks. A bit of space, nice and flavorful.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
Posts taken out of context...
― nickn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
heh
― deconstructive witticism (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
Buffalo Trace OTM, big fan
the last 24hrs worth of posts make me wish I could share this wonderful birthday bourbon I got, the stuff is srsly sublime
― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
i think people misinterpreted my "sweet" description of bourboni am only talking about tastebuds and physical reactions to certain tastes (taste being a neutral/scientific word here)how one reacts to a certain taste sensation is to a certain extent up to genetics(although cultural influences cannot be dismissed i guess)
i certainly don't think people who like bourbon are into sickly sweet stuff, rather their tastebuds respond to a different end of the taste(bud) spectrum. and yes, single malt scotches are well beyond my income comfort-zone for the most part which is why i like irish whiskies as they seem to hit a nice "sweet spot" between bourbon and scotch and are affordable.
― buzza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 08:32 (twelve years ago) link
also i am in no way averse to sweet-tasting alcoholic drinks but i prefer to control the ingredients that go into the drink as opposed to starting out with a base-level sweetness with the main ingredient.
― buzza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the bottling proof of most scotch is one thing that is to blame here
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
Scotch is best neat or with only a tiny splash of water in most cases, though. If I'm going to drink bourbon straight, I usually throw an ice cube in.
― mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i never put ice in bourbon pretty much (unless it's an old fashioned obv) so i get used to the higher abv
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
i like both scotch and bourbon but prefer bourbon. And i dont think it has to do with any relative sweetness, because i dont have a sweet tooth at all.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
or doesn't have any teeth at all...
― Mark G, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
Operative word being "relative" sweetness. With bourbon you get hints of caramel. WIth scotch you get hints of, dunno, dirt, I guess. More vegetal vs. spice.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
i mean this all comes down to personal palates but i've had sherried scotches (balvenie doublewood, glenfarclas 12) that seem so sweet to me!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
I have a bottle of rum barrel-aged scotch stashed at a friend's place that is pretty good but not all that sweet, comparatively
― mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
buzza otm, thats why i don't really enjoy drinking something like makers mark str8 up, its got that cloying aftertaste
― am0n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
makers is kind of...not great though
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
makers is the attempted platonic ideal of "bourbon." no one is going to say it's the best, no one will say it's the worst, no real complaints from serving it, and it meets all definitions of a reasonable product
― mh, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
also available most places and not embarrassing to shout for across a noisy bar
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
it's also in the $ sweet spot, too. it's not swilly, but it's not something you're gonna get docked for financially. kind of the '90s RHCPs of bar drinks
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
bottled by anthony kiedis
― am0n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
sealed with a waxy flea kiss
― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
served in a sock.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Triple sock filtered.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
tried the bulleit rye 95 - pretty sweet tbh
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
sweet sweet?
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
sweet sweet
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i often find cognacs a bit sweet
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
scotch prices in america are alas far more reasonable than those of fancy non-EU liquors here, else i would try more
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone else been following the ongoing Buffalo Trace insanity, not just the Van Winkle stuff but the so-called "Antique Collection" as well? Prices have gone utterly bonkers.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I think it'll sort itself out in the same way Lagavulin did - it gets talked up in a lot of circles, novices seek it out as collection worthy or a name thing, price makes the former core audience move to other comparable products, prices level back out.
Unfortunate that a product with a 4 to 23 year production cycle is so fundamentally ill equipped to ride out supply/demand cycles.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
to be fair to them, whiskey production has ramped up in the last few years since the trend was anticipated, but demand for bourbon in 2012 is still outstripping the supply
― mh, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
I hear that Knob Creek are launching a rye. Has anyone encountered it yet?
― brain (krakow), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:38 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh definitely. spring van winkle allocation was pretty rough, i think at least one store owner straight up lied to me about their allocation. btac thankfully is nowhere near as bad, and the only van winkle worth coveting at this point is the 20 year and the rye.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
I want to say it was less than a year ago that I was still able to find the 15 for $50. Now it goes for, what, $200+ dollars?
Do any of you have any good recommendation for any of the single barrel small batch whiskeys being churned out, like the Knob Creek single barrel? Has anyone tried the Woodford Reserve Double Oak?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah idk last time i saw van winkle sitting on the shelves around here was winter 2009. it's been a dogfight since then.
knob creek sb is cool if you like knob creek....at 120 proof i thought it was kind of a fatiguing whiskey. i don't like the creek that much.
not tried the woodford yet. at this point i'm skeptical. best sb's imo are still coming from four roses--i haven't checked recently but am guessing binny's carries all the recipes.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
I find all the various Four Roses combos kind of exhausting. Too expensive to experiment. I guess the generic sb is around $40, and the small batch $30. But everything else tops $50.
Had Angel's Envy?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
4 letters for you: OESQ
no angel's envy that i've seen in these parts, unfortunately.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
I cant find Van Winkle anywhere. Havent had it in years.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
I can only find Winkle 23, which is priced on a good day what the other bottles go on the secondary market.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
i picked up a bottle of bruichladdich 10-year and glenmorangie artein yesterday... the artein (a blend of 15 & 21 year finished in wine casks) is really good, and way richer-tasting than the original. not sure about the bruichladdich - may need to try it with water. every review i read RAVES about it, but it tasted kind of waxy and flat to me. it's not bad at all, just not that exciting.
― how did we get here how? (ytth), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
I remembered that there was a shortage of rittenhouse 100 so when I saw a bottle today I grabbed it
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
Just opened a bottle of Ardbeg 10, hoping that it will considerably improve my quality of life.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
well, has it?
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'll tell you in the morning...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Rittenhouse abounds here. Amazing how much distro differs from place to place.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
ardbeg 10 is a beast
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ardbeg is my favorite scotch. All the bottlings are great but the Uigeadail's my current preference.
― I DIED, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I've been wanting to pick up the Uigeadail for a long time, but I've held off until I fly and can get it relatively reasonably at the excellent whisky shop in Glasgow airport; sadly, lack of holidays for several years has made it quite some wait already...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's helping. At the very least I'm not wanting to go to bed and instead am wishing the night were longer, to give more time for enjoying such fine whisky! Maybe that's not a good thing though.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
i have no whisky tonight and i would suggest your quality of life is better than mine upon discovering that even the shitawful supermarket brandy is all gone too
― navihchkan (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
next whisky im gonna get is cask strength tho, probably an islay
got a bottle of some family produced stuff from a castle in clare, its good, v irish but soft with it.
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
buffalo trace is a fantastic bargain for the money imo
― Steve Youngblood (dan m), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
finished off my ardbeg airigh nam beist two nights ago. it was cool but i only felt like drinking it once every six months.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
keep wanting to buy another bottle of Bakers
― mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
i'm having jameson with my müsli, it's not bad
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
Warning! Warning! Rye shortage is imminent!
They're predicting a two year (relative) drought, followed by a market flood, so stock up now.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
source?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
I thought we were already in a (relative) drought?
*calculates the likely cost of a case of Rittenhouse 100, based on last price seen*
― i like slash and i vote (j.lu), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
rye popularity was somewhat anticipated but I think demand's outstripping supply. they have to spot possible trends so many years out, when it comes to aging liquors...
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
i just wrote some stuff about whisky wanna read it
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://sanfrancisco.grubstreet.com/2010/11/nations_bartenders_battle_for.html
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Also, rye (the grain) is apparently selling at an all-time high, around 50% higher than last year and about 125% higher than 5 years ago. And I've noticed the price of Rittenhouse creeping up.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
yes, slocki, I do
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://ca.askmen.com/fine_living/wine_dine_archive/whisky.htmlhttp://ca.askmen.com/fine_living/wine_dine_archive/whisky-part-2.html
i shot the video too (but didnt edit it or add the music)
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I can't get to said site from work. Is askmen.com a "men's blog?"
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
ehhh apologies to a couple bartenders in san francisco but that article is not actually based in fact at all;
- it's well known that michter's 10-year rye was a limited supply of mysterious aged stock that was unlikely to be replaced (and was a lot older than 10 years).
- no one has been able to get van winkle rye for like 5 years, the allocations are miniscule
- wild turkey 101 is basically going away but they're releasing an 81 proof rye that is getting a big marketing push
- rittenhouse still drops about twice a year and heaven hill has been increasing rittenhouse production steadily for a while now
- willet has released a ton of 3-5 year rye to the market in the last year and it's great for mixing
- jim beam has been rolling out knob creek rye for a couple months now, which is a 100-proof rye that is going to have pretty stable stocks because that's what beam does
- no mention at all of sazerac which fluctuates in availability but isn't actually going anywhere
around here at least, unless youre a huge fan of wild turkey 101 rye, things are considerably better than they were 2 years ago.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
bulleit rye, although I have no strong opinions about it, is a newer product and seems to be available most of the time, too
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
yup. i mean a lot of people will be in trouble if the ldi/indiana rye dries up (bulleit, willet, redemption, high west, 4 or 5 other weirdo brands) but i haven't seen any indication of that happening.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
?? really? thats weird they had some at my liquor store in london
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
my understanding is that there's a ton of van winkle all over europe (relatively speaking). but in the usa there has been a runaway freight train of van winkle hype and it disappears as soon as it's dropped.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that must be it. theyve even had it behind the bar at a few pubs ive been to recently
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
I can't remember if it applies to all Van Winkle products, but I read that the current family member basically walks around the distillery sampling barrels and picks select ones to blend to make their product. Used to be Stitzel-Weller, now it's Buffalo Trace.
― mh, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah booze blogger i read was in glasgow recently drinking big pours of pappy 20 for like 8 pounds which is completely ludicrous to any american who pays attention to this stuff
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
mh there is debate about the extent to which the van winkles are actually involved in blending but otherwise yup that's correct for the bourbon.
the rye is a mingling of two aged stocks from distilleries that no longer exist. it's been sitting in a steel tank for like 10 years. supposedly they're going to start topping that tank up with buffalo trace rye over the next couple years.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Bars have no real prob getting Pappy.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
well bars stand a lot better chance of getting it than consumers, that's true
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
ca.askmen
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f0oA56OE5Po/T4IQBRFowpI/AAAAAAAABD8/hxsZVuyENXs/s640/Amathus3.jpg
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
― am0n, Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a living
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
xp and ever it shall be unless britishers discover a taste for bourbon en masse
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:07 PM
: ) cask, man
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
need to try that 2:1 ratio pro-tip, i've only done the few drops of water
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
cask rules everything around me
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i don't usually do the full 2:1 but i have been adding more than i used to and its good
makes sense tastewise, also makes the bottle last that much longer. win/win
― am0n, Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Cripes, is that a fresh shelf shot from the UK of all the Van Winkles? What are the prices?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
- wild turkey 101 is basically going away
WHAT
― Grimy Little Pimp (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
well....if you see it grab it. no more is shipping in 2012. depending on where you live it may come back in future years but my sense is that they're going to push the 81 and focus on keeping the supply of 81 up.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Also going away: Elijah Craig 18, to be permanently replaced by Elijah Craig 20, which costs three times as much.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
yup
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
ec18 was underpriced for years, i wasn't a fan but the glory days are over for people who liked drinking tree bark
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:13 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i got that pic from this blog - http://bkarmstrong.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/amathus-drinks-in-soho-london.html
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard tell of a lot of variation from bottle to bottle. Besides, Scotch fans are guilty of tasting for worse than tree bark!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
xpost And yet, if you go to the Amathus site, they only show three variants of Van Winkle, and one is out of stock. The 23 is 275 GBP!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah josh i've heard that too re: variation
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
ive only had the Van Winkle with the guy lighting up the cigar on it. Worth the hype
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
15, 20, or 23? they all have the guy.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
I've only had the 15. A friend got a Van Winkle flight at a restaurant (where someone else was footing the bill).
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
Woodford Reserve Rye Twin Pack: 2 bottles (375ml.) of Woodford Reserve Rye, one from New Cask, one from Aged Cask packaged in a beautiful wood box. CCL received only eight of these sets and we have them while they last for $69.49 per box. Treat your favorite Rye lover right and pick them up one now.
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
that is sitting in my cabinet. heard nice things about the new cask.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
Tempted to go over there right now and buy it. They had other awesome deals too...
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
Is the Knob Creek rye out yet?
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
out in some states, not all.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, Woodford Rye Master Distiller Twin Pack is $100 here.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
My friend is going to Virginia next week - any tips for what he might look for there?
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.abc.virginia.gov/Pricelist/STRAIGHT_BOURBON_WHISKEY.html
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.abc.virginia.gov/Pricelist/STRAIGHT_RYE_WHISKEY.html
Knob Creek Rye is on there.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
i want a litre of ancient ancient age.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if i could get aaa around here i would buy it all the time
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 June 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Sooo, I got that twin pack for 17% off of $70
― mh, Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
Almost picket up some AAA today.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
drinking Bulleit Rye w/an ice cube right now
thanx for droppin all the consumer knowledge here, this thread is like some kinda industry secret.
― sleeve, Saturday, 23 June 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
― mh, Friday, June 22, 2012 9:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nice! i think that's about what i paid.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
it's the end of a long-ass week so i'm doing something i don't do often and enjoying a pour of george t. stagg
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
Friend came over and we did an impromptu tasting of each of the woodford bottles. We approve, but the aged one needs a sliver of ice/splash of water to open it up
― mh, Saturday, 23 June 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
The picture up thread is an accurate reflection of Amthus's current in-stock range of Van WinklesIn their Soho (London) shop (I popped in today because i was in the area).
The nice lady in there said that she seems to sell a lot of the stuff to very pleased American tourists. Prices start at £48 for the weaker 10-year.
― Tim, Saturday, 23 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
$50 was what the 15-year was going for less than a year ago. Back when you could still sometimes find it. So £48 for the 10 ... wow, from an exchange rate perspective. Tim, how much the 15?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't make a note, I'm afraid - I think it was something like £75 but don't hold me to that.
I won't be in Chicago for a few months but I'm a fairly regular visitor there, fwiw...
― Tim, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, you got my wheels spinning! But even £48 is a lot for a bottle of bourbon, given we live in a golden age when, I dunno, bargains like Old Weller, Elijah Craig and Ancient Ancient Age abound.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
UK prices for US-whisky are always high, except for supermarket stuff like JD.
It seems roughly that $x in the USA becomes £x here, at best!
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Here is Amathus's online stock of Winkles...
http://www.amathusdrinks.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=winkle
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
so $101 for the rye; really not that much worse than it is here and with the added bonus of just sitting on the shelf
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
My excellent local drinks shop sometimes has Winkle Rye, for around £68.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
This is more indicative of the price differential...
Woodford Reserve Master Collection / New & Aged Cask Rye for £100: http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-16867.aspx
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
and I paid probably about $60 post-tax so.... yeah, wee bit of price inflation there
― mh, Saturday, 23 June 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
Explains (along with availability) my eternally looking for US whisky mules!
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
when the woodford rye 2-pack came out here it was actually around 100 before i started to see it closer to 70 so the price of that thing has kind of been all over the place
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 June 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway, I'm drinking a little closer to home tonight, with some Ardbeg 10.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 23 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Krakow, how was the High West?
― ljubljana, Saturday, 23 June 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
Xxxpost Simgle malt prices US vs UK would also be similar right?
― just sayin, Saturday, 23 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
that site above has laphroaig for £30 which would be $47. laphroaig here is generally $50 - (more commonly) $60.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
not impressed by EC12 (bought at good spirit co) (who stock three van winkles iirc)
― reflexing cozen stail (cozen), Saturday, 23 June 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
That £30 ( as with all quoted uk prices) includes tax. Which your US figures might too, but I can never tell.
― Tim, Saturday, 23 June 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, ours are usually pretax
― mh, Saturday, 23 June 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:54 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Whichever one is in the picture above. Ive had that one.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 25 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
I like EC12. It doesn't have a lot of character, but like Woodford it's pretty smooth and mixes well. Also, it's got a cool giant cork.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/389315_10150953506668718_1024306758_n.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Fudge. That didn't work.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/389315_10150953506668718_1024306758_n.jpg
almond floor cleaner for a chaser, huh?
― mh, Monday, 25 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
It's a vital component of a cocktail I like the call the Gut Cleaner. Needless to say, after the Gut Cleaner, you'll need the Squirt and Mop for the floor. It's all quite symbiotic.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
just picked up my ardbeg galileo - in two minds about opening it, since it's already running about £100 on ebay
― skrill xx (cozen), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
Per CAD's recommendation, I picked up a bottle of Four Roses OESQ a few months back. I thought it was a little too hot for my tastes, and didn't really like the flowery flavor undertones. But I'm going to bust it out again when the cold months come and try it again.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
curious how the galileo is, if you decide to drink it. i passed on a bottle when they were available here.
― how did we get here how? (ytth), Thursday, 6 September 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
still swithering on the galileo
anyone tried jack daniel's tennessee honey?
― skrill xx (cozen), Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
just drink it imo (the ardberg that is)
― ask morbs if he is better off than he was 4 days ago (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 9 September 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
nikka all malt, it's alright this
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
Nikka From The Barrel is very good. Think it is quite a cheap brand in Japan but the quality is great.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 19 October 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
i always get into whisky again this time of year, long evenings, mist, leaves everywhere, bonfires etc
got a bottle of royal lochnagar 12 the other day which is.....good, smooth, slightly honeyed
was going to get ardbeg but idk it looks expensive for a 10 yr and i dont rly feel like islay atm
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.esquire.com/features/drinking/scotch-pronunciation-guide-5836909
― these wilburys taste like wilburys (donna rouge), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
Jim Beam Black s my new go-to
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
I got a bottle of Powers irish whiskey a week ago and have been undermining my health with it all week. Nearly finished now. Sneezing too much and tired, but generally pleased with life.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
How much/often do you have to drink to undermine health? I accidentally took down a bottle of wild turkey over four days, and that included a Saturday where I went out and had drinks elsewhere
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
well a bottle of liquor is 12 or so 2 oz. pours so threeish drinks a night i.e.you're drinking less than me
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:08 (eleven years ago) link
ftr i am a picture of health
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
I'm older than the hills, or at least nearing 60, so my constitution isn't as resilient as all you spring chickens. btw, the first third of the bottle disappeared on the first night. i slowed down after that.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
it was turkey 101?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
mh the serious answer is that four nights of heavier-than-average drinking aren't going to put a dent in you; if you feel like shit that's your message to not do that again.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link
it fucking better have been 101 or you have no business on this thread
(jk)
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
nah it felt fine, I guess the question is whether those four days are four of every week!
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
i mean it's not *great* for you long term but my attitude is if you can wake up not hungover, enjoy your day, and get some exercise you're probably doing alright.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
old overholt my old friend...!
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
i want to talk about canadian whiskey
picked up a bottle of alberta premium dark horse, competing crown royal black? prem market entry from provincial institution/100% rye crew at ab premium. bottled at 45% with a boost from corn whiskey + sherry. herbal, rubbery, a twang like diet coke from a can, rye spice-sour. i've been trying to get my hands on a bottle of ab premium 30 yr and i think it might be impossible.
century reserve 21 year, another provincial institution, highwood from high river alberta, from their inherited stash of corn liquor i guess. this is i believe 100% corn and it's woody as fuck, tree bark and match heads and vanilla. also been drinking their white owl spiced which is kind of novelty, aged 10 year rye whiskey + filtered to remove all colour + over ice smells like butterscotch ripple and tastes like cinnamon hearts and brown bread.
also daily black velvet from plastic and crown limited edition.
― dylannn, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link
i had my eye on a bottle of this tonight just because look at it
http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/black-arts-2-scotch-bottle.jpg
― dylannn, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link
Oooh, I've always wondered about those whiskeys. I like AB Premium a lot but typically I stick with CC 20 yr.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone had that Redbreast 12 cask strength? I'm curious.
How much/often do you have to drink to undermine health?
Per health, you should worry less about your liver (at first) and more about the calories. A shot of whiskey can be about 100 calories, I think, so a bottle of Wild Turkey would run about ... 1700 calories? Which is 2 and a half Big Macs? So obviously not healthy to make a habit of it, so to speak.
A lot of cocktails hit around 250-500 calories per drink, easily.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
the answer is to pound that bottle of wild turkey while scarfing down on two and a half big macs
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
balances everything out iirc
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
Question: my dad told me that he stopped drinking Manhattans when they "started to go down too easy." I've always liked that way of explaining it, but I didn't know if it had an origin?
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
foreign soccer players iirc
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
aimless- power's is a good example of what i'd consider a pure 'irish' whiskey in terms of taste. Test is simple, make a hot whiskey and if the aftertaste doesn't clash with clove, sugar or lemon you're close imo.
Powers/paddy's will always be the basic standard here btw, though you can get alternatives if you want to spend more.
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
as I said to a coworker who said he switched to whiskey for the winter instead of beer since he was less active:"nonsense, a pint of whiskey surely has more calories than a pint of beer!"
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4292
124 calories in 1.5 ounces
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
that's 100 proof - 97 caloriers for 80 proof http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4106
whiskey for dinner, it is!
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
so a fifth is like 25 ounces - 2500 calories!
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
ya but you'd burn a lot of it off running from the cops ime
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
I would still drink whiskey over beer though since no carbs in whiskey.
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
what do you think the sugars in whiskey are?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
I stand corrected, the usda does not think so
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
BAM
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
There's a reason they call rocket fuel. Because it's basically, you know, rocket fuel.
True story: a lot of American whiskey distilleries shut down for a time during WWII and actually did shift to producing jet fuel. That's one reason Scotch caught on in America, because all the servicemen were coming home with the only whiskey they could find.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Only a couple steps between the ethanol blend in my car and the ethanol blend in my whiskey
― d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
Was seeking easy sipping Canadian whiskey; was recommended Collingwood by LCBO guy; cool girl swept past, picked up a bottle and said 'he's right! it's delicious, and from my hometown'. Bought it. A bit disappointed. Not complex enough, I guess, and too maple-ey.
― ljubljana, Friday, 26 October 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
i think you've been the victim of an extremely cost-ineffective marketing ploy
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Friday, 26 October 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
lol, yeah
― ljubljana, Friday, 26 October 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
lots of canadian whiskey easy to sip + not too expensive. currently drinking canadian club 100 proof.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/wine/beppi-crosariol/canadian-whisky-our-home-and-native-hooch/article2426507/
― dylannn, Friday, 26 October 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
Dickel Rye coming out soon!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2012/10/25/a-brand-new-rye-whiskey-that-will-turn-heads/
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Friday, 26 October 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
I got a bottle of the Canadian Club 12 Year as a gift and was initially skeptical because to me Canadian whiskey is Crown Royal, which is what teen metalheads vomit up in your sister's car, but wow it was tasty and didn't last long.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Friday, October 26, 2012 7:39 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the indiana rye strikes again. but i'm still excited for this.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
ban canadian whiskey
― Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
why?
― dylannn, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
canadian whiskey is just too sweet and character-deprived to merit the proud name of whiskey. it's all top and no bottom.
― Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
that's a good description of the Collingwood, but since I've just seen Argo I'm feeling extremely pro-Canadian and will make it my mission to find Canadian whiskeys with bottom.
― ljubljana, Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
but i think bourbon tastes super sweet and lacking compared to the ryes i like! for complex and not very sweet, alberta premium 25 year is what i'd pour you. 100% rye grain. complex. farm yards and sawdust, burnt sugar, wintergreen copenhagen, unripe kiwi, spicy as fuck. a perfect mix of wood/water/grain. or wiser's 18 year, which is amazing and full of character and has a subtle, pleasant sweetness balanced by peppery rye spice and a deep, mean pungent bottom end.
― dylannn, Saturday, 27 October 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
*takes notes*
― ljubljana, Saturday, 27 October 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
A good rye whiskey made in canada is ok by me. It's the stuff that gets labeled as "canadian whiskey" I was downward thumbing.
― Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
black velvet still one of the top-selling liquors in the state
― d-_-b (mh), Saturday, 27 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
ban black velvet
― Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Suggestions of good shops in San Francisco (or maybe San Jose)?
I will be without a car and rather short on time though, so easy access suggestions may have to trump all else. I'd like to pick up a bottle of something...
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link
there's a K&L in sf, i'd check that out
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks, that looks good.
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:13 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Good point. In my Irish family, whiskey is a household necessity, like gauze pads and sewing thread - even though I don't like it much on a regular basis. It's for occasions like when your grandmother has cancer and stuff.
It beats the shit out of Bailey's though...I love it when I go to my non-Irish side of the family and they offer a Bailey's like it means anything.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Magical Imaginative Ingenius Wonder Wo (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link
I just bought a bottle of Redbreast 12, which is a pretty easy, flavorful sip. But I only bought it because I couldn't find the cask strength at the time, and when I did come across one I didn't want to buy it and have another bottle of Irish whiskey (which I don't have a lot of use for right now).
Recommend this as a Bailey's alternative:
http://xn--3ga.buffalotrace.com/sites/default/files/BourbonCream_0.png
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
Like drinking melted ice cream.
hey! some people love to drink melted ice cream (but not me)
― Aimless, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
OMG it seems like a pretty bad thing that the most exciting thing happening in my life is that Dickel Rye is coming soon...
Had an impromptu taste test between Old Grandad and Old Overholt last week at a party. Overholt wins IMO.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
overholt was my hurricane drink when the beer ran out no hangover!
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
krakow - the whisky shop on sutter at stockton is practically a whisky museum. cask on market and 3rd is good too - more bourbon (whisky shop is almost all scotch).
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks! Leaving early in the morning. Excited!
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
helped my friend get a bottle of george dickel, think we paid too much though. o well! it was the only store in the area that had it (wburg)
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
how much?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
been repping hard for jim beam black lately
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
$33 for a liter : ( xp
― 乒乓, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
I'm all about the Wild Turkey 101 for casual drinking these days (nights). Bargain considering the quality.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
the new dickel rye, or their classic tennessee whiskey?
turkey 101 is classic
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
#12
― 乒乓, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
that's way overpriced, man :(
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
all american whisky seems to be stupidly overpriced here
i think even a lot of supermarkets sell jack daniels 70cl for over £20/$35ish
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
and Jack is terrible! I can't imagine what they are gouging you for something like Maker's Mark.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
lmao it's £24 in sainsburys, you can often find laphroaig for less than that
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
jd that is
makers mark is about £26ish?
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
Dickel is the better Tennessee whiskey, partially due to the fact they haven't progressively watered it down like JD has been
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
XP one more pound for one more ton of quality, IMO.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
er, two rather. It's early hear, the counting part of my brain hasn't kicked in... I need some whiskey...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
lol nor has the homophone distinguishing part. *here
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, November 1, 2012 11:14 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
whatever I had some sweet dickel in my mouth last night
― 乒乓, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
hehehe. It saddened me when they changed the shape of the bottle.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
I hear you. I was way guilty of drinking at hotel bars due to laziness during travel in the past year and spending way too much on whiskey
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Last night on the phone, my dad cautioned against "getting Dickeled" when drinking the 12 year.
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 2 November 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Canadian Club Sherry Cask, good stuff. Sort of my way of not spending the extra 30 odd on sherry cask Scotch.
― Josiah Alan, Sunday, 4 November 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Rye + sherry flavoring makes for an interesting mix, sort of smokey sweet. Slightly metallic but still enjoyable.
― Josiah Alan, Sunday, 4 November 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
tangle ridge is the most over the top rye + sherry mix. i swear it has to be 10% sherry.
i'm trying the limited edit gibson's grey cup edition that has the slight slight slightest hint of maple syrup/maple sugar in it. super wooddy finish is where the maple makes an appearance.. (tastefully done "flavored" whiskey blend compared to ... also picked upa bottle of wiser's vanilla and it's liek wiser's with vanilla sunlight dish detergent absolute shite.).
― dylannn, Sunday, 4 November 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
jim beam black seems to be p popular among hipster atm
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
the last time i poured pappy 20 was when the patriots lost the super bowl
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
Really nice whiskey. Being Scottish this is one hellova find! Now one of my favourites. My wife bought this for me on a trip to Dublin - all because I like breasts and the colour red! Little did she know she found an Irish gem of a whiskey!!!
- Neil, 29th April
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
乒乓, really? I'm the only person I know who's been saying much about it locally, and mostly tried it because it was on sale.
I guess I am independently emulating the hipster lifestyle
― d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this feels v. sensible to me--somewhat forgotten and fairly priced. it's decent stuff for sure.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
still so sad I didn't buy them all when it was on sale for $16
― d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
Is there any bourbon at that $25 or so price point that is not decent? Seems like, in the midst of this golden age, that you have to go really cheap to go really wrong.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think there's a product from one of the big kentucky distilleries that's bad at that price point, no.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
What's Devil's Cut at, still closer to $30? I like that, but some have mixed opinions
― d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
not sure if it's quite that much around here. that's prob too much for it but i do like it.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
hey CAD, did you know that Koreana in Cambridge sells ENORMOUS pours of Gentleman Jack for $8?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
(I just discovered this on Friday)
i did not know that! driven past koreana a million times--is the food good?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
The food is VERY good! They do full-on Korean BBQ there and have a menu where they will grill all kinds of awesome foods at your table. We were all over the beef and pork bulgogi, plus a surprisingly good tofu dish.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
that sounds really good.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
be prepared to wait if you don't have a reservation tho; we waited 45 min for a table for 4 (tho fortunately J and I got their early and got us on the list) and their bar is tiny
still, $8 Gentleman Jack!
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
Did you know that Gentleman Jack was allegedly originally designed for women?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
Makers Mark had some sort of thing five or six years ago where you could sign up for their promo stuff and they'd put your name on a barrel of whiskey and let you know how it progressed.
I got a poster in the mail this week with a date range stamped on it, next year, of when I can come buy the whiskey
― d-_-b (mh), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
these guys really play the long game with marketing
seem to be a lot of discount whisky offers around at the moment, asda were selling lagavulin for £28 but seems that's over, they're still selling aberlour for £18 which must be some sort of record for a 10yr single malt these days
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 8 November 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
Glenmorangie 10 yr old is £20 in Sainsburys. Coming up to Christmas you get lots of ridic bargains.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Thursday, 8 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
idk if these are 'bargains' in the strictest sense given how inflated whisky prices have become lately, though i think the lagavulin qualifies
got a bottle of laphroaig quarter cask, which is very much like the 10 yr? idk i suspect if you compare them directly the difference is more than just the abv but from memory, there's not a huge difference
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 8 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
must make a shoppin trip to the north soon actually
paid €9 for a pour of glenfiddich 12 last friday night, mannn fuck dublin
― threat of the author (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
pouring one out for u rite now ;_;
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
is there two tears there? cos that's more than i got in that glass
― threat of the author (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
big wide bastard glass too, not even all the surface got wet iirc
that is a good thing cuz otherwise the viscosity would mean it would cling in an unpourable patina around the entire surface area and u would get nary a crying eagle's worth
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
wait wait wait i know this one, it was miss kelly in 1993 and the term was.... meniscus or some shit
― threat of the author (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
i got a bottle of knob creek's 100 proof rye earlier today. lacking in depth but has the barnfloor + spice + dusty yeasty sweetness, the reason i drink rye. i've never tried an american rye that i loved. is it the fact that they're usually bottled before a long time in barrel? and how does this compare to the dickel?
― dylannn, Friday, 9 November 2012 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
had wild turkey rye at a bar last night - maybe it was cause I was drinking rittenhouse before i went out (and the wild turkey is a lower proof?) but the wild turkey tasted kinda thin in comparison
― 乒乓, Friday, 9 November 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i have not heard good stuff about the 81 proof rye
― call all destroyer, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it was just kinda simple and one dimensional
― 乒乓, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
it is kind of thin, also seemed to somehow have a mint-tasting finish? I thought it was ok, but 81 proof so ehhhh
― d-_-b (mh), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
went to two more stores yesterday I have determined that the price of dickel is swollen all over NYC; good luck getting it under $25 for a fifth
otoh I got a liter of old overholt for $18 wth
― 乒乓, Saturday, 10 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Swollen dickel?
― d-_-b (mh), Saturday, 10 November 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
the price of dickel is def p engorged here
― 乒乓, Sunday, 11 November 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
I'm back in Idaho and it has state liquor stores. Dickel is a good price... but they only have one variety (can't remember what one). The shitty selection is going to lead me to ordering liquor online...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
my favorite place to browse online (and then go purchase boozes 'cause they're all over Chicago) is http://www.binnys.com/
― dansplaining (dan m), Sunday, 11 November 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
had a pour of the Colonel E.H. Taylor single barrel bourbon tonight and really enjoyed it - 100 proof, opens up w/ a little water, spicy kick in the middle with a sweet butter finish
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Sunday, 11 November 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
picked up a bottle of no-name 18-year speyside single malt from trader joe's for $25.99. i was a little unsure about it, but that's a great price for 18-year scotch, and i was curious. the verdict... not bad, and as good as any other scotch you'd get in that price range. pretty simple, easy drinking and smooth, though not much of a finish. thinking of other bottles in this range (macallan 10, glenfiddich 12, jw black), this is definitely better, although it's a miss if you like more full-bodied or smoky stuff.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Monday, 12 November 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
TJ Scotch (man, I wish our TJ sold spirits) is bottled by Alexander Murray, fwiw: http://alexandermurray.com/. Same people handle Kirkland brand for Costco. I do know their no-brand liquor has a god reputation across the board. Tequila, vodka ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 November 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
correction: bulleit bourbon nearly$25 at Costco now
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, 12 November 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdfz64dPd41qz6f9yo1_1280.gif
yeah yeah yeah yeah
― 乒乓, Sunday, 18 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
the online service of waitrose have discounted a lot of whisky so if you use their first-time signup offer of £20 off £100 you can get like four bottles of laphroaig 1/4 cask delivered for fractionally over £20 each
http://www.waitrose.com/content/waitrose/en/home/groceries/offer_aff.html
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 19 November 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
bulleit bourbon went up to $20.99 at Trader Joe's
― a series of top-selling Maryanne Amacher BluRays (sarahell), Monday, 19 November 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
awesome insight from toothpaste for dinner.com
― buzza, Monday, 19 November 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
no one who is truly into booze should front on the martini, its true
― call all destroyer, Monday, 19 November 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
sarahell otm about price change, but it's like $24 here now (maybe I already posted that?)
― under minnesota shakedown (mh), Monday, 19 November 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
oh sorry, I meant at costco, here. no TJ liquor section locally
― under minnesota shakedown (mh), Monday, 19 November 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
so i got a bottle of buffalo trace discounted, it's now bottled at 40% abv here and some people seem to be unhappy about this (also 700ml as standard rather than 750ml in america i'd imagine?)
could benefit from the extra alcohol but it's very nice and makes a change from laphy taphy
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, 40% is pretty low.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
40% abv and 700ml? they are disrespecting your country and your personal integrity
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah reducing spirits to the legal minimum is pretty common, although most of the better single malt scotches seem to be bottled at 43-46% which is alright but even at 40% scotch doesn't lose as much as bourbon
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
I just picked up a bottle of BT the other day, now I'm paranoid that it is lower % than previously.
― dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
nah i'm pretty sure this is a specific to the uk and the shitty market for imported liquors that ensures i only ever buy them at unusual discounts
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
the price of yamizaki seems to have skyrocketed too cuz i was going to get a bottle but it's into ardbeg territory now
― Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
only offender of perpetual proof-lowering in the US is JD, I think
those fuckers
― mh, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
me mum surprise me with a bottle of jefferson's rye last night.yum!
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
ooh lagavulin 16 on deal at waitrose, finally time to try it
― whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Thursday, 22 November 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
it was pretty outrageously expensive for what it was, but i just enjoyed a mini bottle of highland park 30 this week. it's a shame more distillers don't do mini bottles of their more expensive versions, since buying a full bottle would just be impractical, though it's fun to see what you'd be paying for.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Thursday, 22 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Thanksgiving dinner with the whole family is great but when my aunt unexpectedly produced a bottle of 1792 Ridgemont Reserve, it got even better.
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 23 November 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
cool aunt imo
― call all destroyer, Friday, 23 November 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
Not mini-bottles, as such, but Masters of Malt sells whiskey by the 30cl measure which makes sampling rare / old stuff much more affordable.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 23 November 2012 08:11 (eleven years ago) link
3cl, rather, 30ml.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 23 November 2012 08:12 (eleven years ago) link
wow, do they ever.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 23 November 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
STRANDED ... NO WHISKEY ... DESPERATE ...
― 乒乓, Friday, 23 November 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
Snagged a bottle of Pappy 15 today. Mission accomplished.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
well done
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 November 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
On Thanksgiving morning Dad produced a bottle of Knappogue Castle, which is an excellent breakfast single malt from Ireland.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 24 November 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
Picked up the Lagavullin 16 yr old in Waitrose today. So tempted to get a couple of other bottles while there. The Lagavullin is excellent.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 November 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Recommend me an Islay scotch to get for a good friend (and ex)'s 50th birthday? I know he likes Laphroaig. I'd like to get him something that he'd be unlikely to buy for himself. $100 is my limit.
― ljubljana, Sunday, 25 November 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
The Lagavulin just mentioned may fit the bill?
― mh, Sunday, 25 November 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
Was not paying attention! Good candidate.
― ljubljana, Sunday, 25 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
lagavulin distiller's edition or ardbeg corryvreckan maybe
but the entry level (16 yr and 10 yr old respectively) versions of those are both excellent and i would always get two of them rather than a single premium whisky
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 25 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like this recently acquired bottle of rittenhouse has a mustier, more vegetal taste than i am used to.is this a recent trend among current batches? was my palate misleading me? i'm not complaining, i like it, but it doesn't taste quite like i'm used to.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 26 November 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link
ian, can you check the back of the label where it says "distilled by kentucky d.s.p." and then there will be a number--let me know what that number is.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
backstory: there was a change in where rittenhouse was distilled and i'm curious if you got one of the new bottles.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 November 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
ardbeg uigeadail is amazing too, my favourite ardbeg I've tried
― whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Monday, 26 November 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
mine is 354 - is that a good #
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
354 is the old stuff...i believe the new stuff will be d.s.p. 1
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 November 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
I will never drink from this bottle again
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
to be clear i don't know if there are d.s.p. 1 bottle out there *or* if they taste different, but it would be mighty interesting if they did.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Q: If Dickel 12 is called a sipping bourbon how come I want to gulp it?
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
I've never had Dickel before, so I bought a bottle of 12 today. Not bad at all! Not a huge fan of Tennessee whiskey, and I do taste a hint of the charcoal, but for the price this might be one of the better bargains short of Wild Turkey 101.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
I need a good bourbon or rye in the UK to make WHISKY SOURS. Any suggestions that aren't (a) majorly expensive or (b) Jack Daniels?
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
Dickel Sour Mash makes a tasty Whiskey Sour, not as deep as the 12 and it sits nicely with all the other elements.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
Its $20 a bottle round here, don't know how much of a mark up you'd be paying in the UK.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
it's hard to say w/out knowing much about what you can get in the uk. buffalo trace is available just about everywhere and is good. or pretty much any rye you can get your hands on since rye would be my preference for whiskey sours.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
You'll be very lucky to get a bottle of Dickle for under £30 in the UK. Yes, that's $45, chums! This may give you a clue why I think the Van Winkle starting at £60ish over here is interesting. And why I nearly fall over when I go and look at liquor when I'm in the USA.
Difford's Guide uses Maker's Mark in its whiskey sours. I take no position on this (I don't drink sours much) aside from saying he's usually pretty reliable.
― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
knappogue otm
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
woodford reserve? can you get that?
― dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
but i googled and found people talking about wild turkey 101 for £19.99 at waitrose, whatever that means
― dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
it's a bottle of 354, c.a.d. sorry that took so long to get back to you. i just fished it outta the recycling.it did not taste bad just diff to what i wld characterize as the usual rittenhoues taste. a definite musty basement vibe which i don't recall being present in previous bottles.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
Ooh, Wild Turkey for £20 should do the trick. Woodford is nice but a bit too smooth -- I prefer 'em a bit more trashy and semi-poisonous.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
I find the concept of paying roughly $30 for a bottle of Wild Turkey slightly incomprehensible, that's the whiskey my friends drank when they were 17-19. That and rotgut vodka and gin.
Its the Fleischmanns of whiskey, (please don't tell me they make whiskey).
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gLJopL2jr3A/TJRRb0AdO6I/AAAAAAAAAMA/7uifTrIVyqI/s1600/Fleischmann's+Rye.jpg
Just looking at that makes my head ache.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
I think you're thinking of Old Crow or Black Velvet or some other bottom-shelf whiskey
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
WT 101 is pretty good.
Tangentially related, I went to my local uber-whiskey (and food) joint, Longman & Eagle last weekend, and they did have Ancient Age, but not Ancient x2 Age. I got hopeful at first but was slightly dismayed when I realized it was just the standard stuff. I had a killer Old Fashioned instead.
― dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
X-post Nah it was Wild Turkey, drank in great quantities, often mixed with Faygo. And it was much cheaper then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Turkey_(bourbon)
See the section under "In Popular Culture", maybe it was just the reputation it had in my neck of the Midwest.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
it has that baggage here, too! it's actually a good product, people are just dumb and didn't know shit about whiskey. maybe it's changed a lot, but I don't think it has.
seriously though, based on marketing, black velvet at like $10/750ml sells like crazy
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
Wild Turkey 101 is the real deal, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
thanks for checking! no obvious explanation then, but trust your taste imo.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
sorry man, I drank your whiskey and replaced it with basement water :(
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I really hope I get to Longman and Eagle when I'm in Chicago next month, I love it there and I've never had the opportunity to have a go at their whiskey selection.
― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
wow, there is some stuff there i would love to try
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
I like the place, been to eat there a few times. Glad I don't live on that block any more though, the parking/tourist/yuppie situation would drive me insane. Their sidewalk seating is bad enough...
― dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Has anyone ever had this?
http://www.whisky-drinker.com/pages/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Tamdhu-no-agesm.jpg
― calstars, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Top secret L&E tip, go there for lunch, when the lines are not mad and the bartenders can be talked into giving tastes. Granted, not the best time to start on whiskey, but you take the good with the bad.
Big Star in Chicago is another fun whiskey stop.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the gf and I went with my parents like half an hour before dinner service started to get a little drink on ahead of time and ensure we got a decent table. It worked out well.
― dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
(that's pretty much the only way I can envision getting in there w/o hassle on a saturday)
Yeah Big Star is awesome also, though I often find myself looking longingly across the road to the Violet Hour. I understand that marks me out as a ponce, but whatevs, I'm English so everyone thinks that about me anyway.
The joy of being on vacation when we're in Chicago is we can plan our day to get to L&E before the madness kicks in too severely. Or just go eat at Lula over the road which is one of my lovely wife's favourite restaurants in the world.
― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
Violet Hour is great, but not the casual commitment Big Star or L&E are.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
just bought some sazerac, stoked
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone know an online whiskey store in the US with reasonable prices on single malts?
― ljubljana, Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure how reasonable they are but there's always http://www.binnys.com/
― dansplaining (dan m), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks - they look ok so going with them (still got gaps in my US online retail knowledge)
― ljubljana, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
Today's payday and I'm fresh out of "nice-ish sippin' whiskey that I keep around to drink occasionally & expand my palate" so I went and bought a bottle of Jefferson's standard offering on my lunch break. Now it's just sitting on my desk, staring back at me. Teasing me, almost. Only 4 more hours...
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/533943_10101194472688960_1835927744_n.jpg
braggin
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
this is the amount i have now. it's enough for me but i am thinking maybe i should get some more for friends and stuff. cost is holding me back too.
Ha, you could have sold that PVW rye for enough to buy probably 10 4-packs of BCS.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
but then i wouldn't have it!
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm fully aware of my own circular logic behind buying bottles of stuff due to their massively inflated price on the secondary market, knowing full well I would never sell on the secondary market.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
if it was stuff i didn't like that would be one thing
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, CAD, I used to have the whole whiskey world at my fingertips, but now I live back in Idaho, where liquor is controlled by the state and they only sell the most popular brands -- "popular" in Idaho of course no where near equaling "best"...
Oh well. I've gone through nearly a 5th of Dickel 12. I swear every drop of it was sipped, no gulping!
Drunk. Next time I'm gonna order fancy stuff online, but the boys down in Tennessee haven't let me down yet. They can go ahead and let their whiskey sleep for 20 years down in Kentucky, doesn't mean its better!
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 3 December 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
This Jefferson's is too... thin and sweet for my tastes.
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 7 December 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
http://sourmashmanifesto.com/
good blog I came across while researching different whiskies
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 7 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
chuck cowdery's blog is still awesome
― mh, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah that guy is good, cowdery is obv amazing.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
it's not whisky, but tonight i got to enjoy some 36 year old rum from francis ford coppola's private reserve. he bought two barrels when it was 24 years old and transferred it to white wine barrels from his vineyard for 12 more years, bottled it, and kept the bottles for himself to give as gifts. i had never had rum outside of mixed drinks or awful shots, so this was quite a treat.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Saturday, 8 December 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
wow, that sounds kinda incredible. how was it?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 December 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised there's no massive clamor for certain rums the way there is for whiskey, though maybe there is! But rum has been made for a lot longer (than bourbon, at least), in more places, with fewer rules, and ages well (like whiskey), so there must be some really awesome pirate stuff floating around out there.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Bought this from the distillery in Oban, it was a little too easy to drink. Probably the nicest Whisky i've had to date.http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YbzoZuWX2tE/TTnh2pUNeRI/AAAAAAAABlk/zGGAiAj2Qt4/s1600/oban-single-malt-14-front-highres.jpg
― not_goodwin, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Xpost rum is continually super underrrated imo
― just sayin, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
the FFC rum was really good, although i'm not a rum connoisseur, so i'm not really sure how it would compare to other boutique rums. you could definitely taste the oak like you would with a very old whisky, but the spirit itself is much thinner tasting. it was neat to try, and it might be super rare, but i'd take a bottle of talisker over it just in terms of taste. plus, (no brag) part of the allure of the rum is that i was drinking it WITH francis ford coppola, so that definitely added to the whole "unique experience" thing.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah that's pretty rad.
i've never heard of rum aged in white wine barrels! super curious about what they added.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
I want a rum aged in FFC's beard.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Guys I'm only one glass in but I think Old Grand Dad might be the new Dickel for me.
― dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
which expression are u drinking
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
100 proof bonded
― dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
that's my fav
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
I could only manage the one glass because it was getting a little late and I'd already had two glasses of wine (plus lol 100 proof), but damn, for $20 and change out the door that stuff's flaovr easily outpaces the $30+ Jefferson's I bought a few weeks back.
― dansplaining (dan m), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/RENFm.jpg
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
For sure, Old Gran Dad 100 proof, like Wild Turkey 101, is a great deal. I have a bottle of Old Fitz 100 I've been meaning to open, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
roommate got a bottle of clontarf as a secret santa gift and wow is it not good
― curly moe shempsen (donna rouge), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
Snagged a bottle of 2001 Evan Williams single barrel on sale for $19 at a small town liquor store in MN today, feel kind of irrationally needy and happy about this. Couldn't convince myself to buy the other 3 bottles left on the shelf.
― dansplaining (dan m), Saturday, 22 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
Needy = nerdy
― dansplaining (dan m), Saturday, 22 December 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
google autocomplete for 'clontarf whis' is 'clontarf whiskey aldi', this is a protip imo
― banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 December 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone tried cask strength Laphroiag? Hooboy.
― Josiah Alan, Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
mmmm no but would try! i had to unbookmark this thread for a while because it was making me want to drink whiskey at inappropriate times of the day.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
there are no inappropriate times, just inopportune times
― mh, Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
3:15 PM in the Midwest? Sure let's test out this bottle that I got while grocery shopping.
And oh my, it's quite a bit stronger than anticipated. Glad I just tasted it.
― Josiah Alan, Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
I was at a whisky tasting a few months ago and got to try a 30 year old laphroiag, it was delicious and I don't even like regular laphroiag much. The harsh peat taste was totally smoothed off. Some might not like that I guess since that's kinda what laphroiag's all about, but for me it was great. But then it bloody well ought to be at £250 a bottle.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 29 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
Got to sample all the single malts my Dad got for Christmas... Bunnahabhain = delicious.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
i have a bottle of bruichladdich 22yr and highland park 30yr on the way from the UK... hoping they don't get stopped in customs.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Sunday, 30 December 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone tried any of the sainsburys own brand 12 yr single malts (speyside, highland, islay)
kind of tempted to try them at £18
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
I bought a bottle of the EH Taylor Barrel Proof Uncut & Unfiltered because I'd heard good things. Haven't opened it yet, though. 135 proof!!!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
let me know what you think, i'm steering clear of that bottle for now but could be convinced otherwise
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
Just got a bottle of the EH Taylor Rye! It's a gift for someone though and I don't know if it's going to make it the next two weeks in my apartment.
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
i have the connemara mentioned above, v laphroaig, ie too peaty, smoky for me, tbrr it tastes like hospital imo.
Bought single barrel jack daniels for a friend who's getting into whiskey, much more my line.
― lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 09:17 (eleven years ago) link
supermarket delivery with coupon discounts seems like the cheapest way to get nice whiskies in the uk
theres a voucher for ocado on ~hotukdeals~ for £20 discount so im going to order a couple fancy bottles of whisky for £60ish
also a tesco £12 off £60 -- couple bottles of cragganmore 12yr and a cheap bottle of wine for £51 delivered might be worth a go
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago) link
bought grand-dad 114; is there any guide to cutting it w/ water ratios or is it do what u feel
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
*tastes* I'll be drinking this straight
I would say 1 and 1/4 splashes water
― mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
converted a friend to the 'dad last weekend, was pretty proud of myself
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I bought it on the strength of the 100, also bad santa
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
im drinking ardbeg right now
― moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
ive decided i like ardbeg 10yr quite a lot
got a bottle of tyrconnell too
― moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
It's something of a myth that high-proof whiskeys need to be cut. After all, if you're going to do that, then just buy a lower proof whiskey. One recommendation I've heard, though, is just to let it sit for a couple of minutes first. Also, higher-proof stuff is great for mixing.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
re: adding water--do what u feel, and it's great if you can experiment over the course of a couple nights. sometimes i go totally unscientific (the capful is v. common here) and sometimes i try to be a little more precise (mostly with, like, barrel-proof things).
if you do want to bring in some science use the lil calculator here: http://straightbourbon.com/index.php/faq
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
cool I'll look into tha- *falls over and vomits on myself*
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
just bought some six year russell's reserve rye
― mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
File under non-story clearly written to get free Pappy: http://ideas.time.com/2013/01/25/is-the-bourbon-boom-for-real/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
what does ilx thing of tyrconnell anyway
― Why they hide the bodice under décolletage? (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
xp for christs sakes basically all american whiskey is sour mash. that drives me nuts (re the first graph).
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ozersky, author of The Hamburger: A History, is a James Beard Award–winning food writer. His most recent book, Colonel Sanders and the American Dream, was published in May 2012. The views expressed are solely his own.
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
omg so many lies in that article
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
dammit the connemara startin to grow on me
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
I was drinking tallishker.
― Say Bo to a (Fizzles), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
After a few weeks off the sauce I picked up a bottle of standard-issue Four Roses today, looking forward to tasting something new (to me).
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Thursday, 7 February 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
Standard issue Four Roses is one of those nice mid-priced go-tos of which there seem to be (thankfully) so many these days.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 February 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
marker's mark is going to be going down from 45% abv to 42% abv for anyone who cares about that kinda stuff
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
haha i also misspell it now, same as 'chris markers'
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
oh lol
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://qz.com/52478/makers-mark-waters-down-its-bourbon-to-meet-rising-demand/
lmao
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that does not pass the smell test. Methinks it a) saves them a bunch of money and b) allows them to redirect those with a slightly more cash to spend to the "46" bottling, which is still going to be 47% ABV.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Markers, me too.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
After a night of hitting the Chris Marker bourbon too hard:http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZ9hMZdiOEKpEcsrtUN2nmXkSYKRUmoq0p0yvSSpGg5wqrlbQ9
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/94/238172642_bf5cbcd696_z.jpg?zz=1
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
Real whiskey. Real cats.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
sakebottleswhiskey bottles signed by francis ford coppola, zhang yimou, wim wenders, jim jarmusch, vittorio storaro.others in the bar included chris marker, and one time godard collaborator jean-pierre gorin.
whiskey bottles signed by francis ford coppola, zhang yimou, wim wenders, jim jarmusch, vittorio storaro.
others in the bar included chris marker, and one time godard collaborator jean-pierre gorin.
so is this purported whiskey shortage for real or what
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 February 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
I drank it all
― mh, Friday, 15 February 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
you monster
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
depends on what you mean by shortage. but yeah, in general there aren't enough barrels at certain ages to support demand.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 February 2013 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
we're probably going to get flooded in a couple years
― mh, Saturday, 16 February 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
http://qz.com/54762/makers-mark-learns-a-painful-social-media-lesson-wont-dilute-its-bourbon/
― just sayin, Monday, 18 February 2013 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
some weird german dude insisted on buying me a neat knappogue irish whiskey - really nice & smooth
― buzza, Monday, 18 February 2013 07:24 (eleven years ago) link
And how was the whiskey?
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Monday, 18 February 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
good for maker's; it was a dumb idea all around
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 February 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
"new coke" move, imo
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Monday, 18 February 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, a lot of people have joked that Maker's gets to introduce its Coke Classic without ever having produced its New Coke, but New Maker's Mark definitely made it to stores. I saw it with my own eyes last week. What a boneheaded folly and PR fuck up all around though. If there's high demand and low supply, then you don't lower the quality. Simple economics dictates that you raise the price. If anything, the outcry was fans and detractors calling the company on its BS buff. Maker's has since, post compromise, promised the occasional shortage in the future - you know, to keep quality so high - but even those threats are hard to buy when they sell Maker's Mark at Costco in 1.75 liter jugs.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Simple economics dictates that Jack Daniels sells a metric fuckton and they've lowered their alcohol content twice
Kind of think that someone sold the MM owners on the idea that they could have a premium brand (46) and expand their following by having the original product be even more widespread. Not really the vision they're aligned with, imo.
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 18 February 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
Well, yeah. But JD never claimed a global whiskey shortage was forcing them to weaken the product to meet demand.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
their claim was that "marketing had found that customers preferred a lower proof whiskey"
which is kind of worse, imo
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 18 February 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
But JD isn't even proper bourbon. It's been compromised since birth. Maker's Mark, otoh, was the epitome of disingenuous, especially for a company the coasts on "tradition."
http://spiritsjournal.klwines.com/storage/mmark%20257.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1360955255028
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'd agree with the latter but not with the former. Tennessee Whiskey is nearly functionally identical to bourbon, although the last step does give it a different flavor. Dickel for life, fuck the haters.
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 18 February 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
jack daniels could legally call itself a bourbon iirc
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 February 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
Charcoal filter, no? Doesn't that mess it up?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
"Charcoal Filtering" and Charcoal Mellowing are TOTALLY differnt processes. To begin with, "charcoal filtering" is only called that because it takes the "charcoal" out of ready to bottle Bourbon that has been aged in the required new charred oak barrels--it is not passed through charcoal. The entire process happens in minutes and is simply so you don't have black floaty bits of charred tree in your Manhattan. The Lincoln County Process, Charcoal Mellowing, happens before the whiskey touches a barrell and if you ever go to Lynchburg, the folks at Jack Daniel's will proudly explain how it takes hours and hours for their whiskey to leach through the the ten plus feet of maple charcoal they use for the mellowing process. It is exactly the fact that this happens prior to aging and clearly effects the flavor (as noted above, Bourbon law allows no additives, even if that additive might be darn near the same thing you get from a new charred oak barrel) that disqualifies JD from ever being able to be called Bourbon.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
From straightbourbon.com"
Is Jack Daniel's a bourbon?Jack Daniel's is not considered a bourbon because it is charcoal-mellowed -- slowly, drop by drop, filtered through sugar-maple charcoal -- prior to aging, which many experts say gives it a different character. The process, called the Lincoln County Process, infuses a sweet and sooty character into the distillate as it removes impurities. But up to and after the charcoal filtering, the Jack Daniel's production is much the same as any other Bourbon. Jack Daniel's and George Dickel are two fine Tennessee Whiskeys though neither can be called bourbon.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
knappogue still otm
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
oh my b xpost
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
Via Binny's:
Makers Missed the Mark.Don't miss your chance to grab this COLLECTABLE BOTTLE.If you missed this story, here's what happened. Maker's Mark announced that they would lower the alcohol of their beloved bourbon from 90 to 84 proof. It took less than a week for public outrage to reach such a fervor that they doubled back on their decision, promising to stick with the original recipe. We don't mean to wax poetic, but this may be one of the biggest beverage missteps since New Coke. One that will leave its mark on the industry for generations.That makes the low proof Maker's Mark an instant collector's item for whiskey enthusiasts.The distillery is busy reclaiming cases from wholesalers, but we're holding our allocation for you. We want to offer you the chance to buy this bottle of history. Remember, it's a limited product, production had a life measured in hours instead of days or weeks. Once it's gone, it's gone for good.
If you missed this story, here's what happened. Maker's Mark announced that they would lower the alcohol of their beloved bourbon from 90 to 84 proof. It took less than a week for public outrage to reach such a fervor that they doubled back on their decision, promising to stick with the original recipe. We don't mean to wax poetic, but this may be one of the biggest beverage missteps since New Coke. One that will leave its mark on the industry for generations.
That makes the low proof Maker's Mark an instant collector's item for whiskey enthusiasts.
The distillery is busy reclaiming cases from wholesalers, but we're holding our allocation for you. We want to offer you the chance to buy this bottle of history. Remember, it's a limited product, production had a life measured in hours instead of days or weeks. Once it's gone, it's gone for good.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
I was at a Binny's earlier today and thought about it. Then I bought a bottle of Eagle Rare instead.
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
got a third party bottling of highland park 21 yr, pretty nice, fairly smooth as u would expect but with a taliskerish heft and piquancy
― Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
I enjoyed reading this:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/02/11/130211fa_fact_sanneh?currentPage=all
I got my old man a wee pack of different Bruichladdich expressions (a ten, a fifteen and an eighteen I think?) for his birthday one year but he never did get to drink them. Now they're sitting in my kitchen cupboard, waiting for the right time. Think maybe I'll open one!
― sktsh, Thursday, 21 February 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
just drank a .375ml of jameson, this stuff goes down pretty smooth. i'm a little concerned i'm not drunk off it, honestly
― Spectrum, Saturday, 23 February 2013 06:44 (eleven years ago) link
that's only ten shots tbf
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
Bottle of green spot to report on, gimme a half hour
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
I'd be a little concerned if 375ml/ten shots of whiskey did not make me drunk. Do you weight 350 pounds?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Dont lets get personal
the green spot is really fuckin good
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, no offense intended! I'm just such a lightweight in every sense that I can't conceive of making it that deep into a bottle.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
over a long evening it seems completely possible
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
If my evening started on Monday and ended on Friday, maybe...
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
xp i'm average build. it kicked in at the end, i'm just amazed i even finished the thing. maybe it's a sign to take it easy for a while.
― Spectrum, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
deems im glad you like it
i was going to buy a bottle of that but i got tyrconell for something like £21 and thought it was scarcely much better than jamesons or the irish single malt sainsburys sell for £15, ie smooth and perfectly drinkable but compared to the scotches one could buy for the usual price it was rather lacking
redbreast is supposed to be excellent (although it's a bit more expensive) but for the time being i shan't be buying any premium irish whiskies, despite ethnic susceptibility
― Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Redbreast is great, none of the jameson premiums have let me down tbh
if i ever get near a sainsburys i'll look that up, you always mention it
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
it's a cooley thing iirc, probably the best/only good thing at that price in the uk (given that 70cl/40% abv equates to over £7 in duty, you can see why)
― Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 23 February 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't tried any of the premium jamesons, the normal one is fine although that seems to have inched up to around £20 rrp which is pushing it
― Like Poto I don't Cabengo (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 23 February 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Bourbon is by some decrees and history tied to being made in central Kentucky kind of like Champaign is really only made in that particular region of France. It's in a big time boom right now here and there was some stuff in the news stating that there was now more barrels of bourbon aging than people in Kentucky.
Old guy that runs my local liquor store (and bought I guess a ton of 90 proof just in case) said Maker's Mark totally screwed it up in that they should have just did what some other spirit makers have done and just sold the 86 proof overseas, where they wouldn't have gotten any flack or probably blow back like they did.
When it comes to bourbon/Tennessee Whiskey, I think the good stuff is obviously great, but really even many of the cheaper lines are pretty good. At least by my math a 1.75 Evan Williams +3-5 bucks > .75 of Makers Mark. I depends on how much drinking you want to do and are you going to mix it. I generally got a bottle of Makers Mark and even a couple bottles of Woodford Reserve around. I think to split the difference, I really like the George Dickel No. 8.
I'd rather have the Dickel or Evan Williams than Jack or Jim Beam.
I know bupkus about scotch, but eventually I will get around to trying some one day.
― earlnash, Sunday, 24 February 2013 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
Tonight above mentioned green spot the some connemara then some standard jameson and jack daniels and more of the first two at home yet to finish
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 February 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
^^ research
― Aimless, Sunday, 24 February 2013 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
Research du temps perdu ce matin selon moi
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 February 2013 11:29 (eleven years ago) link
I started yesterday with one bottle of bourbon in the house. I now have four bottles of bourbon in the house.
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Sunday, 24 February 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
yesterday i was hanging out with a guy who grabbed a bunch of old bourbon on ebay in the early 2000s. drank some c. 1957 old forester, some late 80s old grand-dad, and some mid-90s old fitzgerald (aka the whiskey now in pappy 15 when it was about 6 years old).
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 24 February 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
Cool!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 February 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
it was! the ogd was ridiculously smooth and pleasant. the forester was pretty spicy and aggressive, though it tasted a little musty
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 24 February 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
new yorker article linked a few posts back is indeed v entertaining. read it a few evenings back with a few fingers of laphroaig, wishing i had some of the bruichladdichs on my cart.
― andrew m., Monday, 25 February 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
cold snap has brought on two large paddy's in hot whiskey form
http://www.paddy.ie/images/nfbottle3.jpg
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
I started yesterday with one bottle of bourbon in the house. I now have four bottles of bourbon in the house.― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:15 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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OK now that my hangover has completely gone away, I have:
WL Weller Special ReserveOld Grand-Dad BondedEagle Rare Single BarrelFour Roses Single Barrel Cask Strength OBSK
I know what to do with the first 3, i.e. drink them at a comfortable pace, but I'm conflicted about the Four Roses. Is that worth hanging on to?
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
what do you mean by "hanging on to?"
4R cask strength single barrels aren't terribly hard to come by, at least they weren't 2-3 years ago.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
I guess just like save for special occasions or whatever, I have no real idea how hard that stuff is to get.
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
i'd say it's a moderately special bottle because of price and w/e but not something you need to be super careful with because it should be replaceable.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
Not hard to get, really. Prince is the biggest distinguishing factor. Eagle Rare is pretty easy to drink, if you want to keep that with the 4 Roses for, what, guests? Wellers are all good, too, esp. for the price. Invest in a 12-year, or 107 ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
favorite typo of the day
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
4 Roses single barrel is easy to find ( I just finished a bottle last week, drank it neat w/a rock), but I haven't ever seen cask strength. However, I live in a state with terrible liquor distro.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, Prince whiskey. The bottle can be half-sized and purple.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
since u been gone I can drink whatever I waaaant
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
OK the 4 Roses seemed p special because it is one of 10 recipes (http://fourrosesbourbon.com/ten-unique-bourbon-recipes/) but upon a little more research & answers here I feel a little better about not saving it away for all times.
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
It's the occasion that makes it special. Bourbon just makes special occasions more special!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
what's fun is drinking that bottle and then getting a different recipe and trying that
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
the four roses single barrel, barrel strength, 2012 limited edition (yes all that is on the bottle) is maybe the best bourbon i've ever had.
― ryan, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
I have had to actively remind myself that I do not need to sip on a little Blue Label whenever I get home from work after seeing how much of it I had consumed over the course of 6 weeks
otoh it was one of the best birthday presents ever
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
― ryan, Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:43 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it's worth noting that the annual limited editions are more rare/special than the recipe-specific single barrels
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
If I have a bottle of whiskey of ANY type that lasts six weeks I will have turned into a different man
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
another article on the Maker's fiasco:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/makers-mark-debacle-the-proof-is-in-the-overreaction/2013/02/25/0aba8564-7c32-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story_1.html
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
So basically they want it both ways: to be everywhere, which means less to go around, which makes it harder to be everywhere. Thems the breaks.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
xp the guy who wrote that really comes across like a smug prick
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 February 2013 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
this is pretty interesting imo http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-is-makers-mark-watering-its-whiskey.html
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 February 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
mmm I'm drinking some Chivas Regal right now. I really like it.
― Vote in BOTH ILM 70s polls please! (Viceroy), Sunday, 3 March 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
It's dickel time. Cheers everybody
― brimstead, Sunday, 3 March 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
Cheers!!!
― Vote in BOTH ILM 70s polls please! (Viceroy), Sunday, 3 March 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
I had oat whiskey tonight.
― every hippie that goes home bloody feels like a martyr back in the city (dan m), Sunday, 3 March 2013 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
Tonight it's Fighting Cock, 103 proof, maybe it will do the trick.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
fighting cock leaves me with a monstrous hangover -- good luck.
rittenhouse at the moment tbh
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
i really wanted to like the kickin' chicken, but....
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
It goes down well with a little vermouth and bitters, but it leaves an odd taste in your mouth.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't hate the taste -- a little rough around the edges -- i just hate what i did to my head the next morning.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
Nothing a good day of manual labor won't cure!
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
TURKEY
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
I keep looking for a bottle of george dickel rye but I never see it. Has it not be released yet?
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
Never mind guess it's just not sold in Oklahoma.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
happy st patrick's day! killed a bottle of this with help from 3 friends
http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/wild-geese-irish-soldiers-and-heroes-whiskey-Limited-Edition.jpg
― everything you like is white (buzza), Monday, 18 March 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
Via some twists and turns, I'm lucking into a bottle of this special Longman & Eagle bottling of Willett:
About six months ago, we were approached by the folks from the Willett Distillery, who were in possession of a very curious find – six twenty-one year old (!) ‘mystery’ barrels of bourbon.After some research, it’s thought that these are old Heaven Hill stock, presumably from a lower floor in a rickhouse that burned down in 1996. These single-barrel, barrel-proof bourbons are among the finest we’ve (ever) tasted, so we of course bought two of the six barrels for ourselves. A precious, rare find indeed…After a month or so of quietly enjoying these two bottlings ourselves, it’s time to share this bounty with the larger public. Barrel one, ‘Longman’, is 109 proof and is limited to 106 bottles; barrel two, ‘Eagle’, came in at 100.5 proof and is even more limited at 62 bottles total – both fairly low for barrel-proof whiskey and both absolutely, totally delicious.
After some research, it’s thought that these are old Heaven Hill stock, presumably from a lower floor in a rickhouse that burned down in 1996. These single-barrel, barrel-proof bourbons are among the finest we’ve (ever) tasted, so we of course bought two of the six barrels for ourselves. A precious, rare find indeed…
After a month or so of quietly enjoying these two bottlings ourselves, it’s time to share this bounty with the larger public. Barrel one, ‘Longman’, is 109 proof and is limited to 106 bottles; barrel two, ‘Eagle’, came in at 100.5 proof and is even more limited at 62 bottles total – both fairly low for barrel-proof whiskey and both absolutely, totally delicious.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
wow nice!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
are those anchor distillery whiskies fairly available in san francisco? worth checking out?
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
so i know the square root of fuck all about whiskey but i nearly picked up a bottle of ardberg 10 in saino's tonight before chickening out and getting reliable old glenmorangie og
now no complaints obv but still i'm wondering. basically i'm terrified of ending up with another laphroaig cos that shit was horrible (fernet branca is my one and only official mouthwash partner)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
find a bar that has it by the glass and try it first! ardbeg is even more peaty than laphroaig, so if you don't like the latter... definitely try it first.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
see this is the thing with the tasting verbiage semantics game imo, peaty suggests an deep earthyness to me not just medicinal
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
i mean it's a fun game don't get me wrong
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
hold on let me mail u some ardberg real quick
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
calling it ardberg and not ardbeg is probably some real n00b shibboleth for a start huh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
for starters u should be posting in the 'whisky' thread not the 'whiskey' thread
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
peaty means high peat content, not smells like peat moss
I would just recommend avoiding Islay scotches if you dislike Laphroaig.
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link
yup, there are tons of whiskies out there to choose from that don't have that flavor profile so get one of those.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
Ardbeg is the best. Doesn't have the medicinal flavour / smell of Laphroaig at all. Really deep, savoury smoke instead.
― Des Fusils Pour Banter (ShariVari), Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
well now that i'd be all up for
obv f.hazel's advice is entirely sane but the lack of consensus is intriguing me
― r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
i mean i do think ardbeg and laphroaig have some fairly different qualities but if by your own admission you know fuck all about whiskey it's the kind of thing that's better to back into after enjoying a few bottles of, like, glenmorangie or something.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
Wish I had some of both to compare right now, and some Lagavulin for good measure.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 March 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link
Glenmorangie is one of the sweet candies of the scotch world
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 21 March 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link
Regarding peat:
http://www.whiskyforeveryone.com/whisky_basics/influence_of_peat.html
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 March 2013 02:18 (ten years ago) link
peat and repeat got in a boat. peat fell out.
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 21 March 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
i don't like laphroaig, and i do like ardbeg. personally, if i'm drinking peaty scotch, i prefer something more like talisker or highland park, which aren't as heavily peated as the big boys (laphroaig, lagavulin, ardbeg). ardbeg is fun, though - at first you'll be overwhelmed by the smoke, but there's a lot more going on underneath all that. with laphroaig, it's smoke and iodine and that's it.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Thursday, 21 March 2013 06:56 (ten years ago) link
Man charged with drinking http://www.wtae.com/news/local/westmoreland/Man-charged-with-drinking-102-000-worth-of-pre-Prohibition-whiskey/-/10932546/19430164/-/e51nr7z/-/index.html02,000 worth of pre-Prohibition whiskey
― Let's talk more my bunny! (doo dah), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
oh nuts. sorry.
gonna drink about 102000 worth of jack daniels over the weekend tbph. thread needs to allow for economic realities every now and again
rtc, how are you fixed for glenfiddich? one of my faves, and well situated between clean/sweet and smoky/footcheese
― mister borges (darraghmac), Friday, 29 March 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link
Local store had a Knob Creek / Knob Creek Rye sale. I picked up a case (6 bottles) of the rye at a decent discount and will be splitting it with a friend.
― I, rrational (mh), Friday, 12 April 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
just finished 21 yr old mystery islay and looking at this cheap 8yr blended scotch from tesco, reliably described on their site as both vegetarian friendly and also
Allergy Information
Free From: MustardInstructions
Standard Frozen Guidelines
No
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
bought some presents for family for my upcoming wedding including Bruichladdich The Laddie 16 and Dickel Barrel Select, totally going to hound ppl about opening them up and giving us a taste
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
you buy them presents?
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
I thought the same thing at first
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
The timing of this event is not at all doable for me, and the price is slightly steep, but it's still interesting: http://americanwhiskeyfest.eventbrite.com/#
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Thursday, 18 April 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
Got a bottle of this as a gift, waiting for a special occasion to try it but by all accounts it's good stuff.
http://www.leopoldbros.com/American_Small_Batch_Whiskey.html
Also tried a glass of Penderyn Madeira Single Malt a few days ago, fantastic flavor for something I didn't expect to like much. Sweetish like a bourbon, no peat. (I realize this will be a turn off for some/most itt.)
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
The attempt to water down Maker's Mark in February did more than garner headlines. It resulted in a 44 percent comparable sales increase for the bourbon in the first three months of the year.Although Maker's parent Deerfield-based Beam Inc. rapidly reversed its decision, it didn't stop Maker's fans from stocking up."This episode reinforces that Maker's is a rare brand that can inspire this rare consumer passion," Beam CEO Matt Shattock said in a call with investors Thursday. "Given the ongoing supply constraint of Maker's, we'll manage growth going forward and we anticipate being able to sustain the healthy sales growth rate for the brand result."
Although Maker's parent Deerfield-based Beam Inc. rapidly reversed its decision, it didn't stop Maker's fans from stocking up.
"This episode reinforces that Maker's is a rare brand that can inspire this rare consumer passion," Beam CEO Matt Shattock said in a call with investors Thursday. "Given the ongoing supply constraint of Maker's, we'll manage growth going forward and we anticipate being able to sustain the healthy sales growth rate for the brand result."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
Forgot about the Maker's Mark controversy, I got a bottle in duty free coming back from the US last month. Think it's 45% which is the regular strength isn't it?
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
For some reason I forgot/didn't realize Maker's Mark is also owned by Beam. Hrrm.
― mh, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
xp yes it is
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I just think it's a bit rich for them to cite the bump in sales as a ratification of its "rare brand" rep. They just brilliantly/boneheadedly bullshitted everyone into thinking they would make it more rare, then immediately backed down. But anything sold by the jug in Costco is not "rare," lol.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
xpost Fittingly, my friend considers Maker's an "airport" brand. That is, if you're stuck in the airport, and you need a sip of bourbon, you know there's at least Maker's. But neither he nor I have ever spent money on a bottle of the stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
yeah makers is usually the one ok bourbon at shitty bars and rock clubs
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
btw my supply of knob creek rye is soooo gone. three bottles lasted fewer than three weeks :/
― mh, Thursday, 9 May 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
I usually get Wild Turkey 101 at the duty free but they had some honey version instead this time.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Wild Turkey 101 is awesome. Honey version likely not awesome, unless you are a 12-year old girl.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure the honey version is for SHOOOOTS
― mh, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
Found a quiet city centre bar selling powers 12 for <€5 per shot, quite the result imo
― posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Friday, 14 June 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
I was pretty impressed by the wonderfully redundantly named Russell's Reserve Small Batch Single Barrel bourbon. 55% ABV, but not too hot, very flavorful, enhanced by a dash of water. WT101 is such a good deal it's hard to shell out for a fancy bottle with no age statement (rumored to be 7 or 8), but I liked it a lot better than, say, Rare Breed.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
completed a longstanding bourbon goal in chicago this week by scoring a bottle of very old barton. 100 proof, 6 years old, 14 bucks for a 750 ml.
it's big, dry, and minty. very in your face, but well made. crazy value for the money.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
Love VOB. So many readily available bargains like that.
Just opened a bottle of Elmer T. Lee. Pretty good!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
i was very, very into the last bottle of elmer i had.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/07/16/2716601/bourbon-industry-patriarch-elmer.html
RIP Elmer :(
― Just Elevate... And Decide In The Air -- Above the Rim (dan m), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
aw :/
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
Shit. Hope I didn't have anything to do with that!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
he made a great whiskey
― marcos, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
Herself arrived back from london with a litre of abelour 12, very much to my taste, peppery and clear, the opposite of peat
― Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
^^ good choice. I got a bottle of that last year - definitely my kind of whisky.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 12 August 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
yeah she accosted some fella looked like a whiskey drinker and badgered him into the least peaty decent bottle of scotch they had- she won't abide the likes of laphroaig in the house.
― darraghmac, Monday, 12 August 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
I just had some awesome 21-year Willett from a bottle signed by the Norwegian (married into the family) dude who runs the company. He had reason to be proud of this barrel. I had reason to be happy I was not the one who paid for the bottle, because man ....
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
by even or drew k.?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link
Even.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link
nice. hope he's around to enjoy the results of their in-house distillation
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
I got to keep the bottle. Thinking of making it into a flower vase.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
Anyone with their ear to the ground have an inkling as to this year's BTAC release? It's usually early fall, isn't it?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 September 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link
i think i've heard october so maybe a bit earlier than usual.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 September 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
Picked up a bottle of Stagg Jr. BT is saying they'll be making it available throughout the year, but in limited amounts, whatever that means. If it's anything like what happened with the squat-bottled Old Rip, its association with some of the more coveted of bourbons will ensure it's off the shelves before most people even know it's there.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link
'Tis the season for BTAC and PVW. In the case of the latter, with no more spring allocations, it should be "easier" to find, mitigated by the demand, of course. Fingers crossed!
In the meantime, I got a bottle of the Old Forester 2013 Birthday Bourbon and count me among its fans.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 October 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
i saw Stagg Jr. today and may have overreacted and bought two bottles of it.
― ryan, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
i cracked my bottle last night. need some more time with it but initial impressions are positive.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, the Stagg Jr.is seeing the same effect that sparked a run on Old Rip, which you also can no longer find on shelves.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Hah, as I posted three weeks ago!
Was anyone able to get a bottle of Elijah Craig barrel proof? The new 21 is too rich for me at $150, considering the 18 went for $50 til they killed the product.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.awardrobeofwhisky.com/bottle/the-glenlivet-master-distillers-reserve-1l-main_image.jpg
one shot of this cost me more than i'd care to admit over the weekend, it was good but not great imo
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
i can't figure out where to get PVW from
― Mordy , Monday, 7 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
do yourself a favor and don't try
― call all destroyer, Monday, 7 October 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
PVW is basically a unicorn for me.
― ryan, Monday, 7 October 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
This article suggests W.L. Weller if you can't get PVW:
http://www.foodandwine.com/blogs/2013/10/2/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-bourbon
― righteousmaelstrom, Monday, 7 October 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
The most helpful Pappy hunt piece is this one:
http://thebourbontruth.tumblr.com/post/56759493121/hunting-the-elusive-pappy-van-winkle-bigfoot-of
Basically, if you put in the effort akin to a full-time job, with lots of driving and flexibility, you can get a bottle. I've managed to get a bottle each of the last two years, running the gauntlet of waitlists, networking and stalking the shops. This year should be even tougher, though, since PVW is not announcing when shipments have gone out to each state, which puts the power in the hands of the stores, who can announce - or horde, or sell off - their allotments as they see fit. And I certainly don't trust the stores, given the way they pump up prices.
It's really quite amazing, given that just two years ago and certainly three you could find the occasional bottle or two of Pappy or BTAC or other special bottlings. I really think the secondary market has messed this all up.
FWIW, the 23 year I believe is the only bottling that still features 100& Stitzel Weller juice, which at least can account if still not justify the hundreds of dollars. Scarce is scarce. The younger bottlings, however, are all Buffalo Trace, and limited primarily by design rather than scarcity.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link
lol "close cousin" - van winkle 10, 12, and prob 15 expressions are now 100% the same distillate as weller.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link
this is the last year of 100% stitzel-weller in pappy 23 if you want to drive yourself completely crazy
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link
For fun, the nerds at the Straight Bourbon forum swear by their namesake 50/50 blend of Old Weller Antique and Weller 12. Haven't tried it yet myself.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link
xp Regardless, Van Winkle has never been a distillery. and has never been about single barrels. It's always been about the family's knack for picking great blends, regardless of source, so whether SW or Buffalo Trace, the tastebuds in charge remain the same.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
that's not true. julian van winkle sr. owned s-w.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
im an dilettante at best with this stuff but the 18yr old Jefferson's seemed comparable to PVW to me, and you can pretty much always find that.
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
the early run of jefferson's 18 was stitzel-weller, and it was pretty damn good. i think the general consensus is the current stuff must be from somewhere else. i have newer bottles that aren't bad but prob not worth the money.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
ah i havent had it in a while--that's too bad to hear.
― ryan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
oops let me correct myself--my bottles from up through last year still have "aged in stitzel weller barrels" on the sticket.
the debate may have been more around the quality of some of the s-w barrels jefferson's was using.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
and the 21 y.o. jefferson's label does not mention anything about its origin.
related, this bourbon truth blogger is really mad about some stuff!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
But the PVW has never been single barrel stuff, right? Always a blend?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
no its never been "single barrel" but until recent years when they started filling in with bernheim and buffalo trace whiskey it was all stitzel-weller distillate.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link
Gotcha.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
Any of you ever had Smooth Ambler 14 Year Old Very Old Scout Bourbon? It's LDI sourced, apparently actually a mix of 14-, 15-, 17- and 19- years. I bought a bottle last year, I want to say, but haven't opened it yet. It's another one that earned a lot of positive comparisons with PVW.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
No, not tried. Do you remember what you paid?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I paid ... $60? $65? Something like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
pretty damn impressed with Stagg Jr. It's definitely reminiscent of the regular Stagg, but my old bottle is long gone so i can't compare.
― ryan, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
"reminiscent" is definitely the right word--you can really feel that ~5 or so years of age missing from stagg jr.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
I'm going to be in Louisville for a weekend of eating and drinking (and a private tour of Willett). Can any of you think of any bottles or brands that I can only get in Kentucky? The downside of being so (relatively) close in a city with great distribution is that a lot of "exclusive" brands make their way up here pretty easily, so I don't want to waste my dollars or trunk space on stuff I can get at home. I may try to get another bottle of Ancient Ancient Age, since you can't see to find that in Chicago anymore.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link
AAA would be my first choice. Hell, I'd like a bottle of that myself just to try it!
― dan m, Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
i don't know of much that is kentucky-only. agree if you find some aaa 10 year you should scoop it up. i don't know exactly what's going on with that brand but wouldn't assume it'll be coming back your way.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it's weird. I have a bottle left, but I think it's a brand, or sub-brand, that's just no longer making it out of Kentucky.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
well i think there's a question of whether the 10-year version is going to continue to exist in general
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
Yeah. This world is so slippery it's impossible to get a straight answer on anything. Age statements, sourcing, distribution, allocation ... it's all a close to the vest mystery.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
Got a tasty bottle of single barrel Willett 8 down there, a bottle of the AAA 10 (which I think is discontinued?) and best of all, a couple of bottles of Elijah Craig 12 barrel proof, which you can't find around here, and which they had a couple of lingering bottles of at the Heaven Hill distillery at a slightly higher proof than got distributed. Excited!
Happened to be down there during the PVW/BTAC release, too, and needless to say, it sounded insane. People lining up at 4am, waiting in long lines for a shot at a handful of bottles. Nuts. Stopped into the Bardstown staple Toddy's and the folks behind the counter were gleefully bitching about the Van Winkle stuff, since every other call at the store was some dude looking for a bottle. They said they got two bottles of each, and they were gone instantly.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
nice haul
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 October 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
Putting my tin hat on for a second, is there anything in place to stop shop employees from setting aside what little stock they get of Van Winkle and BTAC? I was in a store today, and the guy behind the counter was talking to his coworker about seeing PVK in a bar going for $90 a shot. Is there any chance in hell, that should should the shop get even a bottle of anything, that it would make it anywhere remotely to a shelf, let alone some customer on a waiting list, when the guy behind the counter can conspire to sell it for multiples above MSRP and pocket whatever he wants?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
not unless you're in a control state. i've seen some pretty insane van winkle markups around here.
i think the best you can do is let the van winkles know if you are aware of bottles marked at way above retail. they have asked for that kind of info before, though i'm not really sure what they do with it.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
The Van Winkles don't care. Or at least, they may care, but they say they can't do anything about it.
My point is less the markup and more that these bottles, at least in a major market like this one, are now pretty much impossible to get unless you know someone on the receiving end of an allocation who can grab a bottle for you, never mind what they are asking or you are willing to pay. There's simply no way to get it on the primary market, and that trend is trickling down to other bourbons as well.
I've noted before that this has only accelerated to a ridiculous degree. Two years ago I got a bottle of PVW15 for $50 with minimal effort. Last year took a bit more legwork but I got a bottle, once again at the store, for $80. This year things have become so obscured and behind the scenes that short full-time effort and a ton of luck, never mind money, there seems to be absolutely no way. That's kind of lame, because the implication is that almost every single bottle is earmarked or otherwise claimed before the allocations even go out.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
who gives a shit, drink some other bourbon imo
― dan m, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
"single barrel" is such a weird elitist thing
I say this as someone who watched this middle-aged couple browsing the whiskey at Costco, and they surely had no idea what was good or bad. They were looking for "single malt" and couldn't figure out the scotches, then were seeing the phrase "single barrel" and then muttering "oh, but this is bourbon..." and wandering back and forth.
imo single malt scotches are fine, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with blends
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
What's elitist about single barrel bourbons?
xpost There's plenty of other bourbons to drink, obviously. Like I said, though, it just sets a bad precedent, since it helps drive all prices up, and makes even less rare bottlings sometimes hard (or harder) to find. Unless all bourbon is the same to you, in which case, absolutely, get the cheapest you can find.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
Doesn't "single barrel" inherently imply a whiskey that is individualistic?
And I didn't exactly post anything like "buy cheap bourbon instead because they're all the same to me", don't know how you teased that meaning out exactly. If finding the stuff is too hard it isn't like there aren't a lot of other varieties waiting to be consumed. Unless you're buying not to consume but to collect, in which case have at it. I can only afford to drink the bourbon I buy.
― dan m, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
having a collection of whiskey that no one could drink sounds like torture
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
Who said I wouldn't drink it or even that i was actively seeking it? The pvk hoopla is helping to drive up all prices, not to mention making it difficult to find many bottles aged over 12 years. I'm thankful for the glut of good whiskey.But my wallet is less thankful for the way things are trending.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
Single barrel just means from the same barrel rather than a blend, no?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
pvw has almost nothing to do with the lack of aged stock--that has to do with industry sales projections from the 90s.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
it's the overall resurgence in bourbon as a category since the mid 2000s
Yup, but if you know nothing about whiskey and are just wandering back and forth in Costco mumbling about "single <something>" I am going to sigh
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
Pvk has nothing to do with lack of aged stock, but it is the symbolic flagship of the bourbon boom. And by fostering the boom, it has helped play a role in the pricing of what aged stock is available, imo. Elijah Craig 18 was priced around $50, then they discontinued it. Ej 21 is going for nearly three times that.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
BTW, to show you how nuts this has really gotten, my friend Jay went to pick up up his daughter at daycare the afternoon before we all left for Kentucky, and on the way out one of the day care providers asked him if he was going to pick up a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle when he was down there! That's just bonkers that the likely only household name bourbons are the usual ubiquitous lower end stuff and, oh yeah, also the most elusive, expensive bourbon in the nation. Another example, observed above: as of just a couple of years ago, you could easily find Old Rip 10 (which is nothing special) on shelves. Last year the store limited my purchase to one bottle. Now it's an allocated bourbon considered part of the Van Winkle family, as if someone would waste their wait-in-line quota on the 10-year.
So no, PVK is hardly the end-all, but its prominence , combined with a general dearth of older aged stuff, is certainly encouraging prices to go up and limiting the availability of other bottlings. At Heaven Hill last weekend they showed how they were expanding at a massive rate, and Heaven Hill is already a pretty massive operation. But you can bet they're going to sit on more of their barrels longer, given the price they can get for the older ages.
BTW, anyone else read about this so-called Unity Bourbon?
http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2013/09/master-distillers-unity-bourbon-to.html
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
can't believe some person who works in daycare would know the name of a high-end liquor!
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
I get what you're saying. But you know what? I sure wouldn't expect some 20-something working day care to know the name of this particular high-end liquor. I mean, why would I? But the fact that she did underscores my point that this particular high-end liquor is disproportionately well-known considering its scarcity.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
There have been articles about that very point
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
Exactly! But reading about it in some Wall Street Journal trend piece and encountering it in everyday life are very different things.
I mean, make up your mind, whiskey thread. A few posts above a couple was mocked for ignorantly searching the aisle at Costco for single-something bourbon. And then I get mocked for failing to realize, well, duh, every single person knows about this bourbon, especially some kid working at the daycare center.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
who gives a shit, drink some other bourbon imo― dan m, Tuesday, October 15, 2013 5:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dan m, Tuesday, October 15, 2013 5:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
honestly i feel the same way. there are so many other good bourbons (at good prices) that i don't need to waste any time/energy worrying about getting a bottle of PVW. it's getting to be similar in the beer world, people lining up around the block to get some limited edition barrel-aged imperial bullshit. it's no slight against the beer or the bourbon -- i've never had it but i'm sure PVW is amazing -- but unless you're a collector as dan m mentioned and you really just need to have it the same way joe bussard needs a some particular gospel 78, just get something else!
― marcos, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
this is just what happens when your beloved boutique product category becomes not just a veblen good but a veblen good with a primary market based on connections and proximity to resellers as well as willingness to pay stupid money
the prices of entry level 10/12 yr single malt scotches has been increasing well above inflation too
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
a couple years ago i got a bottle of black maple hill at astor wine & spirits in nycthey've never had it whenever i go backand in another store i went to last time i was in nyc the clerk told me it was now as hard to get as PVW?anyone ever see this biz?
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
i've seen black maple hill at places around boston
― marcos, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
now that i have a good friend who lives just across the border in VT and can bring me stuff i order to his house, anyone recommend a good booze e-tailer?
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
PVW is pretty easy to get here at my local shop. expensive though, priced roughly 1$:1£
― cozen, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
i think that's true about the 16 yr old black maple hill. haven't seen it around in forever and last time i did it was 160 dollars.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
my brother in law gave me a bottle of 20 yr old A.H. Hirsch last christmas, which i dont know much about other than it's a legendary and no longer produced bourbon. still haven't opened it!
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
I had the 10, was alright I guess. not all that
might pick up one of the 12s/15s if I can get over the price
― cozen, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
recently went through a bottle of lagavulin 16 distiller's edn like it was water. so good
ardbeg uigeadail, lagav, & caol ila are my current faves
― cozen, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
today im drinking this
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/417230/Lidl-is-tops-for-Bourbon-lovers
which is surprisingly good for under £15 ie most of that goes in tax
the wine society are selling a 25yr old islay at £33 which i will probably order too, they used to sell a 21 yr old highland park secondary bottling for about £28 which wiped the floor with anything else at that level
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:14 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
age-stated bmh is long gone, sadly. i have about a third of a bottle of 16-yo left, it's nice stuff.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
i remember towards the tail end of its availability here the price at every store went up about 40-50 bucks from what i paid, that was cool
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
― ryan, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:19 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wow nice bro in law!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
he also got a 23 year old pappy at the same liquor store in a posh part of Austin.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
Josh, I wasn't mocking anyone, just shaking my head at the fact that people are approaching whiskey -- which is good! -- after reading articles that are specious or emphasize certain brands or phrases. It's whiskey, it's all good, and if you don't know anything about it and don't know the difference between scotch and bourbon or know what the difference between single barrel and single malt are, then you're likely not going to be spending your money very well.
That's what I was kind of depressed by, people who have likely read a Wall Street Journal trend piece, or more likely an article in their local paper that was inspired by that trend piece, and decide they're going to go search out this delicacy. Not every single person is going to know about Pappy Van Winkle or whatever other rarely-found whiskey is, but it's likely that a number of people who do know don't have knowledge much deeper than those trend pieces.
In other words, there's a reasonable chance that the person who knows of PVW is the same person who has no idea what the difference between whiskies is. And that kind of sucks.
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
in sum, pr campaign: successfuli have managed to never hear of that rare drink before today, but i bet ppl who read magazines have seen the trend piece!
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
btw I bought a bottle of single barrel bourbon last night, eagle rare, $26, glug glug glug
― dan m, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
Now here's another side of it. I was in a store today with ample Stagg Jr., so I mentioned my surprise, seeing as it was flying off the shelves elsewhere. And the guy noted that the trend with that one reversed after so many people descended on it and, go figure, didn't like it that much!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if my liking it so much is due to the very cheap bottle i just finished before buying it, so it seems great by comparison, or if my palate isn't that sophisticated. i love the original Stagg but it certainly isn't subtle to my tongue, and i figure a younger version would have much the same virtues.
― ryan, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
the ppl who didn't like it probably weren't used to barrel-proof whiskey or didn't cut it or something dumb.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
It is, as they say, a big whiskey.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
http://www.state-journal.com/local%20news/2013/10/16/more-than-26k-in-rare-bourbon-stolen-from-buffalo-trace-distillery
― 乒乓, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye is aged for 13 years and is worth about $25 a bottle.
???
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link
Josh in Chicago taking matters into his own hands, I see!
― dan m, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
how much does reserve rye retail for?
― 乒乓, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:14 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
astor never seems to have good stuff anymore
Ha, I saw that Pappy theft story a couple of days ago, but I didn't see confirmation. That's like stealing bearer bonds, which leads me to only one suspect.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120506183328/diehard/images/1/13/Hans_Gruber.png
― 乒乓, Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:22 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
$80-90
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Supposedly/ironically the hardest to find of the PVW line, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-milk-honey-distillery
― Mordy , Monday, 21 October 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
You can expect an Israeli four year old to be more like a Scottish ten year old.
hmmm ok guys
― call all destroyer, Monday, 21 October 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
i was in tennessee this weekend and got to drink a glass of hirsch 25-year old rye. this is supposedly the same as (one of) the ryes that makes up van winkle rye but aged a bit longer.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 21 October 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
Got a George T. Stagg today and a Thomas Hardy rye! Feel very lucky.
Also, hearing more murmurs of a major Buffalo Trace shortage imminent. The distillery itself first warned about this back in May, but apparently some stores have recently been notified of anticipated shortages of Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace, Blantons, Elmer T Lee, and (obv.) Van Winkle specifically, for supposedly up to 3 years. This is based on BTs 2009 projections and, as per our discussion(s) above, how quickly demand has outpaced supply. It seems fishy that so much of this stuff would become scarce, but between the death of Elmer T Lee and the stories I hear of Weller 12 being hard to find in some states, who knows? If enough of these rumors spread, there could at the least be a perceived shortage, as people stock the bunker.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 October 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
there's been rumors abt etl and eagle rare for years. if it happens it happens, i guess.
nice job getting some btac. i think i missed the new hampshire state system drop by a couple days but i have a guy up there trying to order me a saz 18.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 October 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
The silver lining of being out of work: Drinking whiskey (Old Granddad, 100 proof) without having to think about reporting to work tomorrow. Should I try the 114 proof expression next?
― Word Salad Username (j.lu), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link
sure! the 100 is my fav tho.
i had given up hope but there is a bottle of saz 18 waiting for me today!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
jealous of the BTAC acquisitions. i'd be more excited to find that somewhere than PVW.
― ryan, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
It didn't seem that hard, tbh, with a little bit of legwork. It depends on what state you're in, though, and where you are in that state, and how attentive you are to when stock comes in (ie give your fave store a call now and then). I've managed by now to get two Stagg and one of the rest of them, though I know I could have gotten more; I was on a Binny's waiting list, and was surprised to get a call the other day, but I told them to let someone else have a shot (so to speak). Some places still have it online, but only for in-state pickup. A big help was getting in early on the PA state-store sale. My folks are still out there, and since I'm visiting in December, I had a couple of bottles shipped there for me to pack up and take home. Hopefully my Pappy luck holds up, though prices are getting too high for me to make a habit of this. The nice thing about the PA sale was that the bottles were up for MSRP. Binny's mark-up was a relatively modest $10, I want to say.
Me? I'm looking for a bottle of Four Roses 2013 Limited Small Batch. Any leads? :)
Some trivia: apparently this year's Eagle Rare 17 is actually 19!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
oh man the 2012 Four Roses Limited Small Batch is one of my favorite bourbons ever. i didnt know it was out for this year already. another one to look for!
― ryan, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Man, this year's came and went like lightning, afaict.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
oh man the 2012 Four Roses Limited Small Batch is one of my favorite bourbons ever.
― ryan, Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:58 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is like my most anticipated unopened bottle.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
That bottle of Stagg I bought was a good idea
― mh, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
That bottle of Beam Devil's Cut I drank half of in one evening, less so.
so is Four Roses Limited Small Batch different than the normal Single Barrel and the regular Small Batch? cause I can get those...
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
yes, it is different
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
I've never had a Four Roses special bottling that I didn't love, especially the single barrel uncut (comes in around 123 proof)
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Friday, 1 November 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
just reserved a midleton very rare 2013 for collection on saturday
― midwife christless (darraghmac), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
I'm hardly a grabby-grabby greedy type guy, but through a bit of diligence and patience I've managed a bottle of each of the BTAC and (unrelated) a Nexus 5 (I've needed a new phone for six months). So I'm feeling lucky on the Pappy front. I'm gunning for a 20-year, but part of me wants to try for the 23, too, not just to finish my "collection" but mostly so that some other asshole doesn't get it just to flip it for 10x.
http://www.2020wines.com/pappy-van-winkles-family-reserve-bourbon-23-years-old-750.html
We're in the weeks before a move, so all my bottles have been going into storage anyway, but once we settle there's going to be one hell of a housewarming, an ounce at a time. Damned if I'll be the dick who doesn't share the wealth with my friends.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
I've managed a bottle of each of the BTAC
wow, it is like a life goal of mine to do that one year.
― ryan, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
i keep hoping the bourbon "fad" will fade and people will move on to something else, but that's perhaps wishful thinking.
― ryan, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
please tell me you are moving to philadelphia xxp
― Mordy , Friday, 1 November 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
It's got a few years left in it at least. I think the catch is it just takes time for these bottles to age, but since these distilleries have to keep moving product, they have by design fewer old barrels sitting around while the rest gets bottled into younger expressions. So the question is whether any of these limited bottles (only 7000 cases of Pappy, which is, what, 84,000 bottles?) will ever be less limited, and I guess that depends on whether the distilleries are housing more barrels specifically to answer demand. I'm not sure, though. Certainly Holy Grail bottles have been so hyped and so revered that I'm not sure what will ever knock them off their hard to reach perch.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
Oh snap:
http://www.thespiritsbusiness.com/2013/10/buffalo-trace-is-about-100000-barrels-short-of-where-it-needs-to-be/
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Ok, anecdotal data points are all adding up. I think the Buffalo Trace apocalypse is real. A friend who owns a high end whiskey bar was just told by a bt rep to essentially buy whatever he can from the extended Weller family.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 November 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
last night's poker game turned into a bring-yr-own tasting
midleton 2013connemara 12 glenmorangie 10green spotaberlour 12jack daniels single barrel
happy days
― midwife christless (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
I was pretty sure I would snag a bottle of Pappy or two via the PA online sale, but I was wrong. I knew it would go live at 10am, was on there in a flash at the right time, got a couple of bottles in my cart within seconds, then made it to the last of the five checkout steps before it essentially buckled under the weight of all the people hammering the site and timed me out, empty handed. So really I should have been successful, but no, fate intervened. Probably ultimately for the better, since this bottle chasing stuff is madness. I settled for going to the store for a bottle of Four Roses Small Batch and Elmer T. Lee, two awesome everyday bourbons at a fraction of the price that won't freeze me into bunkering the bottle forever for fear of never getting a replacement, which may be the fate of my Pappy 15 from last year.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
I just had a buffalo trace old-fashioned the other night and was thinking "Man, I need to buy myself a bottle of this." Damnit. It's not surprising though, because the name comes up over and over again as a best value whiskey, and I guess word travels.
― i wish i had a skateboard i could skate away on (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
hurting, lotsa buffalo trace at astor wines and liquors. I was just standing in there and checking in on this thread.
― chinavision!, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
Buffalo Trace is ample and abundant. Though maybe that is a bourbon that's all over the place here but harder to come by elsewhere? Can't believe it, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY-vrklCYAAan2O.jpg
― dan m, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
Ugh that sucks, looked better previously.
https://twitter.com/4RosesBourbon/status/400732055165599744
― dan m, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
I was in the right place at the right time and was essentially offered a bottle each of the entire Van Winkle line (minus the elusive rye). Counted my money, processed my wife's reaction, and flashed back to "Ghostbusters:"
"When somebody asks you if you are a god, you say YES."
So I feel very lucky this year. I found a couple of extra bottles of 12, even, that I'm selling to friends, though there was a bit of a "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" thing going on, in that I absolutely wanted to make sure they went to folks I knew would drink and/or share, and not some jackasses flipping it in the secondary market. Because goddam, this is what it looks like literally the next day:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/search/sss/chc?query=pappy+van+winkle&zoomToPosting=&minAsk=&maxAsk=
People who do this are like the assholes who buy up all the hot kids toys each season to sell to the highest bidder.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 November 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link
josh - do you have exceptionally strong relationships with local shops? i'm curious, because on the west coast, your only option for a bottle of pappy et al is to get in a raffle, and most stores only have a couple bottles to raffle off to 5,000 entrants. the idea of being able to buy one outright or to have the whole set offered to you at MSRP is unheard of.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 15 November 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link
Different shops handle things differently. Some do lottos, some jack the price up, some have long waiting lists. The lamest bundle bottles of Pappy with other purchases. Like, if you bought two other bottles of Buffalo Trace product, you get to buy a bottle of 10 year. Three bottles gets you a chance to buy a bottle of 12, etc. There was some sorta local place that has such a long waiting list they're thinking of adding another hurdle, making customers buy into a whiskey tasting night to get a shot at a single bottle.
If you called the big Binny's here, they would put you on a giant waiting list with hundreds, and who knows if there was any tomfoolery beyond that. But leave the city and none of the Binny's I spoke to said they were running a waiting list at all, that it was strictly first come, first served. Probably because it's a huge operation, mark-ups were negligible, like maybe $10 on top of MSRP. After that, keep an eye on twitter or message boards. The person I know most in the loop, professionally, texted me a heads up only after I was already out the door, so few people really know the exact date and time in advance.
The way I put it to someone else recently was the better your relationship with the shop - special orders, relatively consistent face time - the more transparent the process gets, so that even though it remains first come, first served, and no holds, it does get a tiny bit easier. They see you making an effort without making an ass out of yourself, so they're perhaps more likely to help with your quest. Which, honestly, usually means just being, well, honest. They might give you a heads up that shipments are coming soon rather than, say, lie outright that the shipment of three bottles came and went weeks ago, to throw you off the trail (which happened to me somewhere!) Etc.. One reason I'm a known quantity at my local place, I think, is that just two years ago I owned literally not a single bottle of liquor, but I took a cocktail course and since then have been steadily building my (home) bar, one conspicuous bottle at a time, plus regular restocks of things we go through a lot, like whiskey and gin.
Which is a long way of saying that if you know the name of the manager, and they know your name, you're probably better off than most. But it's still a bit of a mystery to me: If the manager got a sense I was going to flip them would he have sold them to me? If the manager did not know me, would he have sold me what he sold me even had I been there when I was, right after they were delivered? Would he have happily sold them to someone else had they got there before me? I dunno.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 November 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
wow. that's an interesting market snapshot. it's partic amazing because honestly, what i do when i want a bottle of whiskey is i go to binny's, look for something on sale that i remember the name of, maybe if i see that they are all > $30 i wuss out and just get some old overholt and call it a day. this wrangling is completely unfamiliar! and complicated! so interesting that there are so many eager customers that they have to keep adding hurdles.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
And yet, here is a telling anecdote, so fresh the paint is still wet. We have friends coming over for dinner tonight, and I get a text asking what they can bring. They he adds that this morning he stopped into the Binny's right by his wife's work downtown and picked up a bottle of Old Rip 10 year and the Van Winkle rye. The latter in particular caught my attention, since it is among the most elusive of the entire Van Winkle line and this was, after all, the day after every bottle of everything was supposedly grabbed and gone in a blink. So I call said Binny's and ask:
Me: Do you have any more of the Van Winkle ryes? (assume I was really polite here, because I was)Him: No, everything came and went yesterday. Not a bottle left.Me: Really? Because I have a friend who bought a bottle of the 10 year and a bottle of the rye there an hour ago.Him: Huh. Well, we sometimes set aside bottles for some of our more regular customers.Me: That's strange, because my friend almost never shops at that store, so he's in no way a regular customer.Him: Talk to our whiskey guy.
A few second go by
Whiskey guy: Whiskey guy here.Me: Hi. I was wondering if you have any bottles of the Van Winkle rye left?Whiskey guy: Sure do.Me: Do you think if I popped in in 30 minutes I could buy it?Whiskey guy: Absolutely. Just ask for me.
And now I have it.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
So what's going on there? People have to be willing to make it through two people if they want to buy the stuff? What's the point in being so intimidating? Can you imagine people doing that with, I dunno, records?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
It's not intimidating, it's just adding one extra step so that some chump looking to flip gives up easier, I think. The I-wear-sunglasses-inside douchebag in fitted name-brand leisurewear ahead of me was talking to the whiskey guy about Scotch. He admitted he knew absolutely nothing about, but that didn't stop him from buying a $300 bottle. Those are the people getting weeded out, the people buying it just to buy it.
Hipster record clerks are so much more intimidating. They're judging you. The guys working at a place like Binny's are just guys. The people who claim not to know anything generally really don't know anything, because they're not told, partly I imagine to cut down on shady stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
Stuff along these lines definitely happens with records too.
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Friday, 15 November 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't I complaining about the "buy it just to buy it" crowd up thread?
― mh, Friday, 15 November 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
And that's where the madness comes from: when the "buy it just to buy it" crowd collides with the "can't have it" demand. You wouldn't believe (or maybe you would) the number of top-ticket concerts I've been to where the guys whose casual after work wear is nicer than what I ever wear sitting in front of me spend most of their time talking and waiting in line for beer. Fans always get a reasonable shot at Springsteen, or the Stones, or Pearl Jam or whatever tickets, but the good seats? You've got to know someone or have deep pockets or both. Same with sporting events. Unlike whiskey, however, there's 15,000 shots to get a ticket per show or game. Stuff like the top tier Van Winkle line, we're talking maybe 25,000 bottles, total, globally, or something silly like that, and 80% go to bars and restaurants. In this case, it's the dudes with deep pockets who get hosed on the secondary market, because if one puts in the time to get a bottle at a normal price, you, too, can have some success. It just takes a bit of planning. (And god knows, I'm likely not planning to do it again next year.)
I may have mentioned it upthread, but that's why I think the Pappy thing is so crazy: it's counter intuitive, but it's a pretty accessible product, actually. The top price you'll pay is $250 for the 23, the 10 is less than $50. Compare that to a comparably elite scotch or cognac, some of which run well into the hundreds and definitely into the thousands at the high end. You can find them but you can't afford them. Pappy is hard to find, but it ultimately won't put you back that much in the end.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
talisker 10yr must be the best of the entrylev single malts from diageo et al that you can get on regular discounts, smoky but not islay and most importantly bottled at 46 rather than 40 abv
― just got dope thai food (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
im going to buy a few more bottles for the winter
local grocery has Jim Beam Black at $17/bottle right now, possibly going to stock up
― mh, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
A friend of mine tends bar at a place where Jim Beam and Jim Beam Black are magically the same price. It's not bad stuff.
― dan m, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
jb black is alright
does $17 include sales tax
― soft snow dogsblood and grain alcohol (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
nah, but it's 6%
― mh, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
binny's has knob creek on sale for $24 please and thank you
― dan m, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
I bought some the other week after this discussion about crazy hard-to-get bourbon! I saw it and was like yup.
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
I just learned that Blanton's sells a Europe and Japan-only barrel proof:
https://www.blantonsbourbon.com/straight_from_the_barrel
Who knew? Maybe I'll get my sister to grab me one when she visits.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that'll be the equivalent of $100 or thereabouts. Which isn't *so* bad when you consider the general price of bourbon over here. Available from the places where you can find the Van Winkles, as usual (though some are starting to hide the latter because they keep getting cleared out by American tourists, apparently) .
― Tim, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
smoky but not islay tell me more, cos smoky i could try but if it's got the chemical burn the laphroaig has then im out
― mind totally brown (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
By the way, speaking of Europe and bourbon, Jim Murray just through his weight behind bourbon over scotch, which is pretty remarkable:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/10502676/Scotch-malt-is-no-match-for-American-whiskey.html
For once, it's the American product that comes out ahead due to stricter standards and more careful craft!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
I'm going to be driving through Kentucky at the end of the month and I'm considering making some time to visit the Buffalo Trace distillery.
― Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
I recommend Heaven Hill or maybe Four Roses, but particularly the former, for the good stuff you can get at the gift shop. Heaven Hill in particular is a great tour. If you do go Buffalo Trace (which has no product for sale, iirc), do the hardhat tour.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
Excellent, thanks!
― Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
To put it into perspective, in terms of peating levels among Scotch whisky distilleries, the list looks something like this, with Ardbeg at the top of the pile:-Longrow (55ppm)-Ardbeg (55ppm)-Laphroaig (40–43ppm)-Lagavulin (35–40ppm)-Ledaig (35ppm)-Caol Ila (30–35ppm)-Talisker (25–30ppm)-Bowmore (20–25ppm)-Highland Park (20ppm)
-Longrow (55ppm)-Ardbeg (55ppm)-Laphroaig (40–43ppm)-Lagavulin (35–40ppm)-Ledaig (35ppm)-Caol Ila (30–35ppm)-Talisker (25–30ppm)-Bowmore (20–25ppm)-Highland Park (20ppm)
― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
(phenol levels)
drinkin taketsuru pure malt
it's good I think
― i am curious #yolo (wins), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
Oof xp
― #YOLOTMB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
Lagavulin is a pretty peaty beverage. Good stuff Havent had the ones above it.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 12 December 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
i just got this as a gift, pretty psyched 2 try
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5500/tpbc2s65/products/1431/images/1464/glenrothesselectreserve__57639__83898.1358534237.1280.1280.jpg
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 12 December 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
it's not just about peat as much as it's the flavor of the peat. i'm not a fan of laphroaig or kilchoman, but i like bowmore and ardbeg a lot. lagavulin too.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 13 December 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link
Tonight I saw a few Rye whiskeys I've never seen before, one called Lock Stock & Barrel, aged 13 Yrs at $149!!! Has anyone tried this? And they had Hochstadter's Rock and Rye, is this something you drink straight or is it a mixer, it's sweetened, right?
― JacobSanders, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
i have not tried it--if you're interested i believe whistlepig is basically the same stuff and it's considerably cheaper (tho not actually "cheap")
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll pick up a bottle of whistlepig for Christmas Eve.
― JacobSanders, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
drank some lagavulin last night. it was like a marsh in a tumbler. excellent stuff
― veneer timber (imago), Friday, 13 December 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
I prefer the saltier islays - lagav, ardbeg uigeadail, caol ila - to the medicinals
― =(3 Ɛ)= (cozen), Friday, 13 December 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
ya that purity chat's all very interesting, jim, but scotch tastes better so
― =(3 Ɛ)= (cozen), Friday, 13 December 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
also had some japanese whisky and it was like bad medicine ffs. bear in mind these were baby steps. never gonna drink beer again though
― veneer timber (imago), Friday, 13 December 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Whistlepig, iirc, is one of the few imprints that says straight-up where its juice comes from (that Canadian distillery, right?). That puts them at odds with this endless wave of whiskey with neither an age statement nor sourcing information. Like, that stupid new $4000 Michter's bourbon? Who in the world would pay that much for something without knowing exactly how old it is or where it comes from? Except for, you know, someone who knows absolutely nothing about whiskey and wants to continue the streak of ignorance? Michter's is either being coy (at best) or dishonest when it even hints that the stuff came from Stizel-Weller. Even Jefferson played games with its 17/18 year, which put the S-W name on the bottles while still playing a little fast and loose. "Aged in Stitzel-Weller barrels." Does that mean it was aged *at* S-W, or just in barrels that came from S-W? Who knows? It's telling that Jefferson is staying mum on all its subsequent old released, the 21 year, the 26 year, the 30 ... no one knows where they came from or what they are doing. Just like stonehenge.
Anyway ... people love the Whistlepig Boss Hog Rye.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
i know we've talked about this before but based on having read everything i possibly could about it i'm 90-95% sure the jefferson's 17/18 was stitzel weller all the way. i agree the way they are leveraging that fact for the older bottlings is a little shady.
whistlepig and lock/stock/barrel are both from alberta distillers ltd. lock, stock might have gotten the absolute best barrels of that stuff for all i know and it wouldn't be worth $130. regular whistlepig is nice enough but i just don't think 100% rye is a distillate that does anything for me.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
As distillers wait for more stuff to mature to meet demand, this barrel-scraping (literally) trend will only continue. The old found-'em-in-a-warehouse- somewhere barrels, there's often a reason the distiller is willing to let them go to other bottlers. How good can the Jefferson 30 year possibly be? A lot of distillers put the bourbon sweet spot at 8-10 years, with 12 being the top for rye based stuff (right?). The Weller wheat recipe is what allows Van Winkle to do so well over the years, but just any ol random bourbon? Not worth the gamble. That Diageo Orphan Barrel Lost and Found collection is dubious to the max.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
idk, george t. stagg is usually 17 years old or so and it tastes p. good to me.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
Isn't Stagg really low in rye? That may help. But I don't really know. Obviously, taste buds don't lie!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
stagg is the standard buffalo trace recipe which is not high in rye tho the % of rye in most bourbon mashbills stays in a pretty narrow range.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Maybe that's part of the appeal of Stagg and some of the other antiques: that the recipe does pretty well in the barrel. Eagle Rare uses the same recipe, right? This year's Eagle Rare 17 was actually 19 years, iirc. But it's hard to find many bourbons, period, over the age of 12, or at least labeled as such. The Four Roses that everyone went bonkers for this year (and I was unable to even come close to getting) was mostly 13 years, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
yes, eagle rare is the same.
it didn't used to be hard. elijah craig 18 was ubiquitous and cheap, the vintage 17 wheat bourbon was everywhere and fairly priced, there was old bmh. all of these things were niche products to an extent, but the main thing that changed was that everyone bought them and there was nothing in the pipeline to replace.
i guess my larger point is it's very hard to say anything conclusive about bourbon as a category. imo it is poorly understood at best. i don't think we really know much of anything about how bourbon ages out, for a variety of reasons. maybe jim beam ages beautifully past 12 years--we've never gotten a chance to know because they can sell all the jim beam in the world at 4 years.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, good point. I assume somewhere out there are warehouses of experiments just waiting out the decades, though who knows how much. Certainly Buffalo Trace has been working on its Warehouse X or whatever project.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i haven't really been keeping up on the bt experimental but hopefully they're doing something with the results to eventually make them public.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
I'm never going to randomly find a bottle of george t. stagg again, am I?
― mh, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
i randomly saw a bottle of 2011 stagg a couple weeks ago
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I drank half the bottle before I really realized what I had
― mh, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
It happens now and then, though not too often will you randomly find it anywhere near MSRP. I'll say again, at least in Chicago the absolutely hardest bottle to come by was the Four Roses 125th Anniversary. And that's without the mad scramble of the BTAC or PVW hunt. I was bummed not to get a bottle.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
I think I paid MSRP ($70?)
― mh, Friday, 13 December 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, sounds right. People were not marking up the Four Roses like they do BTAC et al. If you found it at all, you likely found it at around that price. But to just randomly come across BTAC or Pappy at MSRP is a very rare thing.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
local shop apparently bought a full barrel of Blanton's so they had a special
― mh, Saturday, 14 December 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
Just watched a guy buy $1500 worth of Pappy, various ages.
― dan m, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
ew/lol
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link
This store isn't one I'd figure to stock it but they had a lot. Still some 10 year and 23 year left, $90 and $300-something respectively. I thought about grabbing a 10 (never had it before) but I haven't finished my gift shopping yet and it just seems excessive.
JiC this is Kimbark liquors on 53rd if you're interested.
― dan m, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
Done hunting for the season, when suddenly I get an email this morning that the Pennsylvania online store is belatedly selling their allotment of Pappy 15. Signed on and ... snagged a MSRP bottle for my friend with no hassle (beyond having to bring it back here after visiting my folks in PA). Later today, get a text from a friend that the local totally average liquor store had a few bottles of Old Rip 10, which is a solid but not really worth hunting for bourbon nonetheless swept up in the Pappy craze. I went over there and got a (barely marked up) bottle for me and another for a friend, $50 a bottle. That's twice today where stuff in the Van Winkle line more or less fell in my lap. Even my wife thought it was weird, and she's tired of hearing about this stuff.
Wait, did you really say "some" 23 left?! That stuff goes fast, and while I have the only bottle of it I will likely ever buy, $300 is only a bit above MSRP. Considering it's going for $1000 a bottle online, that's not terrible (relatively speaking).
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
Black bag right? They had at least two on the shelf behind the counter. The dude who spent a grand and a half bought like 3 bottles of the red bag stuff, all they had, plus some others.
― dan m, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
Red bag is 20 year. Wow, though, that's pretty low for the 23 (again, relatively speaking), given the gouging out there and on Craigslist. Especially if they were asking $90 for the 10 year.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
Done hunting for the season, when suddenly I get an email this morning that the Pennsylvania online store is belatedly selling their allotment of Pappy 15.
already gone?
― Mordy , Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
Man, it was gone in literally five minutes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
I'm going to line up a taste-off between Bulleit Rye, Dickel Rye, and Templeton Rye sometime. Can't wait to realize they're all close to interchangeable.
― mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link
Finally had a taste of Ancient Ancient Age last night, it was different than I expected but still very good. The bartender seemed astonished I asked for it specifically but shit, apparently they don't even make it any more? (Or at least have changed the name, I guess?)
― dan m, Friday, 20 December 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
Boss gave me a bottle of Bookers. 126 proof? jesus
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 20 December 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
there's a "what the whiskey you receive indicates about what people think of you" fluffpiece in there
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
I got this stuff as an office gift fwiw:
http://www.thirstysouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/DSC_0069.jpg
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
you guys are lucky! no one is giving me whiskey :/
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 December 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah, sadly my work is pretty restrictive about alcohol in general, but I suspect my boss would love it if he could contribute to us boozing it up more.
― Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
Booker's is one of my favorites
― mh, Friday, 20 December 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
the liquor store guys were having a lively debate about booker's when i went in last night - one guy loves it, other guy thinks it's awful.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 December 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
i got a bottle of bookers from my boss and the maker's mark 46 from someone who works for me. i'll be enjoying my xmas vacation.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 20 December 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
nakh
Connemara Turf Mór Heavily Peated Single Malt
The eagerly waited new peated single malt from Cooley Distillery. Limited in number to around 20,000 bottles.
Heavily peated at around 58 ppm on the phenolic scale. This makes Turf Mór about as peated as Ardbeg and even more smoky than Laphroaig and Lagavulin. Curiously the high level of initial malt peating doesn't always withstand the assault of brewing and distilling, so whilst this is a big smoky monster it still has a certain delicate and fruity character.
Tasting Note:
Wonderfully smoky on the nose. Reminiscent of wet bonfires, lapsang souchon tea, pears and almonds. The palate is light and delicate with fierce smoke and alcohol both launching a two pronged attack on the taste buds. Once the alcohol subsides a clean fresh and fruity character emerges which gradually gives way to lingering dry smokiness. A real joy on the finish, this whiskey seems to go on forever.
― lorde othering (darraghmac), Monday, 23 December 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
£70? i'd rather buy a couple of bottles of ardbeg
― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 December 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Not a fan of Larceny. Or at least I wasn't the one time I was served it.
Got a call on Saturday in the middle of moving, from Binny's.
"Hi, your name was on the Pappy Van Winkle waiting list. Are you still interested?"
"Sure. What do you have left?"
"We have the 10, the 12 and the 15."
"Could I get the 15?"
"Sure, it's yours."
"Wait, didn't you say all those weeks ago that the waiting list was miles long, and that there was really no point?"
"Well, the list was miles long, but we've been steadily going down the list, one bottle per customer at a time."
"Awesome! Thanks."
So you never know.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 December 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
I'm not a big scotch fan but I had a glass of Laddie 16 last night and that was quite nice.
― dan m, Monday, 23 December 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
Looks like Heathrow only stocks cask strength Ardbeg at the moment. Have most of a bottle of the standard Connemara to finish over Christmas which should be fine.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Monday, 23 December 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
xp i've tried laddie 10 and laddie 22, but not the 16. i'm excited for the stuff they distilled after the distillery reopened to mature - the 10 is fantastic, but i didnt think the 22 was worth the money. not bad, but i was imagining the 10 with 12 more years in the cask, and it ain't that.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 03:59 (ten years ago) link
my holiday present to myself this year was a bottle of 30 year old talisker. this stuff... dang.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 25 December 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
don't mind me i have my revel stoke in a bag over here
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 25 December 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
my buddy gave me this for xmas/bday, gonna dip into it shortly
http://www.apetogentleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/640bottle-image-+-glass.png
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 25 December 2013 05:20 (ten years ago) link
trying to figure out if that bottle is on some unintentional ed hardy ish
― mh, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Just when I thought it'd be a whiskeyless Christmas I get a bottle of Four Roses yellow label in my stocking.
― dan m, Wednesday, 25 December 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
my parents friends got me a bottle of old overholt. i think their daughter who is sort of a wealthy manhattanite type just discovered a whiskey i was into five years ago, but i'm not gonna complain.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 December 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
Great rye bargain, that. Harsh straight, I think, but good in an Old Fashioned.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 December 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link
the john e. fitzgerald larceny is alright but probably not something I'd seek out. Decent for the price range.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 December 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link
It's possible the long-predicted bourbon apocalypse is upon us, however subtly. Or maybe just Sazerac. For the first time, all Weller bourbons are MIA here: no Antique107, no 12 year. Binny's says they're expecting them to return in January, but you never know. Plus there are murmurings that the 12 may either go up in price or even lose its age statement, just like what happened to the Antique a few years back, with Buffalo Trace/Sazerac allocating its older juice to its more valuable lines. Who knows. What did happen, and I'd call this pretty sneaky, is that Very Old Barton BIB 100 did quietly lose its age statement, in a really shady way, too. It used to say "Aged 6 Years" around its white collar. It kept the white collar and kept the 6, but lost the "Aged" and "Years." So now it just has a big "6" on it where it used to be, but the 6 means nothing on its own.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 December 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
distributor's out of Weller Antique 107 in the DC area too based on a trip to the liquor store last weekend
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it's on. Weller 12 and Antique have been AWOL for a while, Elmer T. Lee getting hard to find, and I've heard that Eagle Rare 10 and plain Buffalo Trace are getting harder to find, too. Can't say they didn't warn us, but I'll still be pretty miffed if this stuff returns at inflated prices, if they return at all. BT has been pretty on-message about keeping Elmer T. Lee around, but I have my doubts. There's a new variant of ETL on its way, and I've heard rumor that Elmer T. Lee could be reduced to an annual release. I hope not.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 January 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
so *now* there seems to be no buffalo trace around. I've been trying to pick up a replacement bottle for a few weeks and every place I've visited has been out, and the guy at the store I was at this evening said he can't currently get any in stock.
― chinavision!, Monday, 10 February 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link
he did get some eagle rare though, so I picked up that instead
― chinavision!, Monday, 10 February 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
had this on Saturday and it was pretty extraordinary, tasted alongside the Yamazaki 18 and Nikka 21 and it was head and shoulders above (but insanely expensive and impossible to find)http://oi60.tinypic.com/2u5s7kk.jpg
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Monday, 10 February 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
green spot is now the go-to
― selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link
green spot is my fav irish by a mile, that stuff is just pure pleasure
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link
xpost Told you re: Buffalo Trace! Anyway, BT, Eagle Rare and a few other things have made their way back to shelves locally. I'm hearing any time for Weller 12 and OWA, with supposedly no price hike. Hearing a bit later for Elmer T. Lee. Though on all these fronts, no one knows until they actually show.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link
See, now things are just getting cynical. The last Parker's Heritage bottle was an overpriced $80 or $90 for a 10-year old, modest-proofed bourbon, but $20 of that price went straight to ALS research. But now comes the real march of stupidly overpriced limited edition bourbon. There's Diageo's fake dusties brands ("Old Blowhard," et al) of old mystery juice, likely salvaged from the old Bernheim distillery. There's the upcoming hyper-premium re-release of the entire PHC set. There was of course that absolutely ridiculous $3000+ bottle of bourbon with neither an age statement nor distillery info. And now comes the Booker's 25th anniversary bottle, which contains, illogically, 10-year old whiskey and will sell for, what, $100? Something like that? Just getting silly. I concede it was annoying that Heaven Hill discontinued its 18-year old Elijah Craig, which sold for $50, and replaced it with a series of 20-year+ bottles that sell for literally three times as much, but at least you know exactly how old it is and where it came from. These premium non-disclosed bourbons like Jeffersons, or premium younger bourbons like the Bookers ... I say bleh to that.
This is why Pappy, if you can get it, is still something of a bargain. Pappy 15 I've bought for $50-$80 a bottle the past three years. Each year has been more money than the last, but it's a known-quantity good thing. 15-years old, higher proof, consistently high standard. But this other shit going for twice as much for half as much, with next to nothing known about what's inside? Shameful.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
how's Stagg Jr? local store emailed that they got some.
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Over-priced, kind of harsh, cynically named, not worth any sort of hype or excitement.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link
;_;
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link
i don't really agree with josh's assessment. if you are in the market for barrel proof bourbon you only have so many options. it's comparably priced to things like booker's (which is a little cheaper, a lot younger, prob not as good on the balance) and four roses sb barrel strength (better but good luck finding it on the reg).
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
my opinion prob not worth much but it's pretty good--experiment with adding different amounts of water and you'll find the sweet spot.
― ryan, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link
Sure, almost any whiskey can be made better/different with ice or water.
xpost I dunno about where you are, but pretty much all 8 (right?) of the Four Roses barrel strength blends are available here year 'round for about $55. And they're all better/more interesting than Stagg Jr.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link
i thought it was good (caveat being there's very little "bad" bourbon coming from the big 7 (wild turkey is on probation)). sometimes you just need that barrel-proof kick and don't want to deplete your stagg/wlw stash.
xp yeah i don't seem them regularly in mass. these days, certainly not all 8, some places will get one at a time.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:21 (ten years ago) link
booker's is one of my faves
― have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link
Elijah Craig BP is something special, especially for the price, but it disappears pretty quickly. In fact, not sure I've ever seen it in the wild! I got my bottles at Heaven Hill a while back.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
a couple very knowledgeable friends got a taster of Old Blowhard, were pretty cynical going in but can't stop raving about it.
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:39 (ten years ago) link
http://www.masterofmalt.com/blog/Images/Irish_Whiskey/George-Roe.jpg
― pariah newsletter (seandalai), Thursday, 13 February 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
It's getting harder and harder to find rare stuff lingering on the shelf, but I came across a bottle of Angel's Envy Cask Strength today. The same store had a couple of bottles of the Booker's 25th Anniversary, but as much hype as that's been getting I haven't come across any actual reviews, and it mostly seems a matter of marketing. Any of you heard anything? Any reason to grab this, beyond scarcity?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
it's 3-5 years older than regular booker's?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
That's the only dif, right? That and being priced twice as much as regular Booker's.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
it would appear to be the only difference
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 February 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link
the barrels are the last ones chosen by the actual Booker
not sure how nostalgia tastes
― have a nice blood (mh), Friday, 21 February 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
Allegedly. They say they *could* be among the last barrels he chose. Very cagey for the people in charge.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
honestly who even cares
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 February 2014 23:52 (ten years ago) link
Good point! I should take it to the "whiskey" thread.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:11 (ten years ago) link
you should take it to the thread devoted to parsing beam inc.'s marketing materials
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 22 February 2014 03:30 (ten years ago) link
Ha, the funniest thing I read about the bottle is someone suggesting you just buy a regular bottle of Booker's then drink it while watching the ridiculous youtube EPK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qvQnoNRPCA
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 February 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link
Years ago, my wife, for work, had to go to an event down at the Noe family estate. I could have sworn she told me Booker Noe had a walking stick made out of an elephant penis.
Just about every detail of that story has blurred to the point where anything beyond "wife" might be wrong, but I'd prefer to think it's all true.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 February 2014 13:12 (ten years ago) link
hah i totally believe that
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 22 February 2014 13:35 (ten years ago) link
Amazingly I was pretty correct: it was Booker Noe, it was the year 2000, and he did walk around with a cane. Whether it was a cane made from an elephant penis, or that he just owned a cane made from an elephant penis, I'd like to think that if anyone owned or used a cane made from an elephant penis, it was the patriarch master distiller of Jim Beam.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 February 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link
BTW, speaking of marketing, the disaster in the making that is Miller Fortune is pretty fascinating. Pretty much every piece written about its introduction basically rewrote the press release, which circulated all the bullshit: it tastes like bourbon, it's a really high ABV, it's meant to be had in a rocks glass, etc. Not one mentioned the actually taste, because not one actually tasted it, but of course, Miller did nothing to dispel the rumors/derail the hype train. And now it has arrived, and people say it tastes like any other shitty golden lager malt liquor, go figure.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 February 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link
idk who greenlighted miller fortune but my god they should never be let near the industry again
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
Bottle of Dickel 14 for my birthday, didn't even know they made one that old.
― dan m, Sunday, 23 February 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link
Bought some Suntory kakubin today
http://i.imgur.com/Ok1X7BD.jpg
Surprisingly good and not too mild/clean like the Yamazaki and Nikka single malts I've had in the past
― 龜, Sunday, 23 February 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link
Anybody try that Old Blowhard or Barter house? I've seen it around, but I lack of the gumption to pull the trigger.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 March 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
OK, following up on my own post, I must admit I've been heartened by the skeptical response. Bottles of the aforementioned were released in Chicago or the area weeks ago, and they seem to be hanging around. Meanwhile, news is coming out that the so-called "limited" run of Barterhouse and Old Blowhard is somewhere around a mere (hah) 39,000 bottles or so of each, which just adds to the layers of bullshit. The middle part of this Whiskycast episode interviews a Diageo guy and repeatedly and politely calls him out on the company's dishonesty, not least the repeated claim that this is somehow SW bourbon and not Bernheim, which it is:
http://whiskycast.com/episode-466-february-15-2014/
Worth a listen.
Also in calling out in bullshit land is this post on Michter's, which goes on waaaaay too long but at least further illustrates the degree of shadiness at work in this business:
http://thebourbontruth.tumblr.com/post/79568476215/deceit-vs-deception-the-heroes-and-hobos-of-whiskey
The level of scorched earth pulling back of the curtain is high enough that the other blogger he calls out in the rant updated his original post to basically give this guy an OTM. The stuff about Michter's shoddy photoshopping skills alone I think is hilarious.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link
I’m not the first person to bring the Michter’s/Chatham thing to light – Straight Bourbon, Bourbon Enthusiast, Sku’s Recent Eats, Whisky Advocate (or the prior identity in blog form), Chuck Cowdery and lots of others have done so. Much of what I know I got from them and my own research. I’m just the flavor of the month in a long line of Michter’s debunkers.
lmao no fuckin' shit, the dude on straightbourbon who is into original michter's has been on this literally since time began.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 17 March 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
Eh I appreciate the effort all the same. The more this stuff gets out there, the more often, the better for everyone interested in staying informed.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 March 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link
I love love love Rittenhouse BIB rye whiskey. Given that I'm so happy with it, and can get it readily for a fair price, is trying other, pricier brands of rye worth it? Name names if you want to recommend any.
― #TweetFromAnUnknownWoman (j.lu), Monday, 31 March 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Well, there are fewer ryes than there are bourbons, so that makes things a little easier. You talking drinking it straight?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 March 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
I normally drink it on the rocks or in an Old Fashioned.
― #TweetFromAnUnknownWoman (j.lu), Monday, 31 March 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
If you're mixing it for a cocktail, maybe go for Old Overholt or Sazerac. Fancier ryes, a lot of people like Whistle Pig's Boss Hog, or the older Sazerac, if you can find it, or Handy, if you can find it. Rittenhouse makes a super fancy 23-year, but that's $$$. Willett has some good rye. That might be a good mid-high point rye.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 March 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
i love the angel's envy rye
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 31 March 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
― #TweetFromAnUnknownWoman (j.lu), Monday, March 31, 2014 1:54 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i would definitely recommend trying sazerac which is probably the other great mid-shelf rye left in existence. i prefer rittenhouse but there's a great contrast between the two. sazerac 18, if you can track it down, is absolutely worth the investment.
if you're just staring at the shelf of ryes keep in mind that bulleit, dickel, templeton, redemption, and a couple others i'm forgetting have a common source and use a substantially different mashbill from rittenhouse/sazerac (and from american rye whiskey as it's historically understood). you can certainly give one of these a shot, but just be aware of what you're getting.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 31 March 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
just bought a dozen bottles of talisker 10yr for abt £21 each, reasonably safe to assume im not going to get bored of it
― a respected member of the hip-hop criticism community (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
still taking the occasional swig outta that glendronach. it's lasting far longer than it should. ur bliss sounds tastier
― halber mensch halber keks (imago), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
theres hardly any actively crap single malt whisky, theres underwhelming and theres all sorts of limited release shit which clearly isnt remotely worth its retail price but its all drinkable
just over twenty is fine for a good entry level single malt, mostly they are around thirty quid now (~£20 net) which seems excessive and is inflated significantly from the mid 2000s
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
ah i can't rly complain, it's not too bad & it was a gift
my best friend received this from his mother's newish husband a few years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penderyn_(whisky) and it was incredibly atrocious. just pure shit. ffs wales
― halber mensch halber keks (imago), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
yeah never tried it but it's just whatever shit they can sell with no age statement, probably half of it to sentimental welsh people
they might make something better given time and if they do they can thank the people who bought their shit early releases (very difficult to found a distillery precisely because absent some futures scheme there is no revenue for years)
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link
like this is almost certainly a prime example of speculative veblen collector dogshit
http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-13405.aspx
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
i love when cask strength whiskies both "benefit from the higher bottling strength" and "take water well."
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 4 April 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
i have a bottle of rittenhouse, should i use it for fancy cocktails or just savour it straight or on the rocks (or with water, which is how i drink my scotch)
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 April 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
you should make at least a couple manhattans with it but it's fantastic with water too
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 April 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link
I picked up a bottle of the Knob Creek 9 y.o. 120 proof. It is VERY good, and only ~$45. Highly recommended.
Kind of spoils more subtle bourbons like Blanton's if you have them the same night. Gotta trend up in proof, I guess.
― Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
It's counter intuitive, but higher proof bourbons can be surprisingly easy to drink.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
My great-grandma drank scotch for pretty much her entire life, and lived to be 101. So yeah it's in my blood.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
hold on to it s1ocki, I'm coming over with some mixology
― a strange man (mh), Friday, 11 April 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link
Bushmills, bushmills black, bushmills 12 yr pot- blackJameson, green spot, redbreast 12- green spotTeeling, teeling small batch, teeling poitin- batch
Overall green spot ahead of redbreast
Poitin was appalling
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Friday, 16 May 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link
Been sipping Heaven Hill this week. I FEEL AMAZING
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 May 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
You would if you have been sipping it all week. I would take a break and have some water.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Well im sipping on Perrier right now.
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 May 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
I had bought a bottle of Booker's for myself as a b-day present that I finally cracked
― a strange man (mh), Friday, 16 May 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
I got a bottle of Knob Creek standard the other day, and damn if'n it ain't superb. Much better than I had remembered.
― Survivalist Compound Row (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 18 May 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2014/09/24/templeton-rye-lawsuit-iowa-recipe-consumer-fraud/16165957/
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
awesome! delighted someone is finally doing this.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
Check out this comment from 2008 on Chuck Cowdery's blog. If it's really from Scott Bush, it's amazing lawsuit evidence:http://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-is-this-stuff-really.html?showComment=1201740780000#c5125144523431029136
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
Also check out the linked recent article at the end of the comments there.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/28/your-craft-whiskey-is-probably-from-a-factory-distillery-in-indiana.html
― nickn, Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
yeah, that was the big media "omg we're blowing the lid off this" article, finally mainstreaming something that's been written about everywhere for years
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
cowdery must be the happiest guy alive today, years of trolling templeton and the others have finally paid off.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
it'd be nice if he got credited more, but hey
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
So, knowing that, what's the best whisky to ask for at the bar? Do I need fancy terms or can I just say "Bourbon on the rocks, please"?
― ∞, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
("Just throw a couple in their, yeah?")
― ∞, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
there*
All I seem to drink anymore is Four Roses, but I did have a taste of Dickel white whiskey a week or two ago because it was on special and I couldn't resist. It smelled deadly but was actually quite smooth.
This rye story is pretty lol -- does it apply to Dickel rye too?
― dan m, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
x-pI always ask for Knotter Bourbon.
― nickn, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
cad I would love to see a list of your top five/ten "affordable range" whiskeys, I need a new bottle of bourbon anyway and am getting kinda tired of Four Roses
lol xp
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
x-pFrom the article I linked:
Some of those bottling and branding MGP whiskey make an effort to give the juice some sort of finishing touch to make their product distinctive. George Dickel Rye starts with MGP whiskey but charcoal-filters it before bottling. Angel’s Envy buys Indiana rye, puts it in old rum casks to soak up a little sweetness, and then charges a hefty markup. Others, such as Redemption Rye, present their MGP whiskey as-is.The prize for the most upfront bottler has to go to Blaum Bros. of Galena, Illinois, which market Knotter—read “not our”—Bourbon with the transparent admission “We didn’t distill this bourbon. Nope, not a drop.”
The prize for the most upfront bottler has to go to Blaum Bros. of Galena, Illinois, which market Knotter—read “not our”—Bourbon with the transparent admission “We didn’t distill this bourbon. Nope, not a drop.”
― nickn, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
― sleeve, Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's getting tougher and tougher to find dece affordable stuff, but here are some things (with the caveat that i neither have the money nor the inclination to try anything that's "craft distilled" or has an unclear origin, not that any of that stuff is affordable most of the time)
very old barton bib (if you can get it in your area, nb i haven't had it since they dropped the age statement, but man this stuff was good)weller 107 proofjim beam blackdickel no. 12 (still sort of affordable i think)old grand dad bib (not really a sipper but the best mixing bourbon in the world imo)
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
x-pI always ask for Knotter Bourbon.― nickn, Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:31 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― nickn, Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:31 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Knotter Bourbon. neat. Thanks"
I'll tell you all about it
― ∞, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
thanks cad!
old grand dad bib
is this the 100 proof bonded stuff or something else? I was using the bonded for a while on yr recommendation
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's the bonded
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
the 114 is kind of overkill imo
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/11/04/business/japanese-whisky-yamazaki-named-worlds-finest-dram#.VFlY1zQgtN4
perfect timing. i'll try to score a cheap bottle while in japan later this year.
has anyone tried it?
― ∞, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
So I scored a bottle of Pappy 12 tonight, I suppose I should feel good? Lucky?
― dan m, Thursday, 20 November 2014 02:38 (nine years ago) link
nice work! if you didnt pay over retail it's a very nice and fairly priced bourbon.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 November 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link
I paid $20 over, I guess? Not too worried about it, I haven't been buying bourbon much at all this year.
― dan m, Thursday, 20 November 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
hi dan, what are you doing the next couple weekends? :D
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Thursday, 20 November 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link
Looking at this bottle, petting it occasionally, waiting for 12/5 to crack it open.
― dan m, Thursday, 20 November 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link
Had a Yamazaki the other night after winning a football match 8-0. It was most fitting. Very peaty and flavoursome, without any sort of sweetened chemical flavour. Delicious.
― imago, Thursday, 20 November 2014 08:24 (nine years ago) link
speaking of pappy 12, anyone ever see weller 12 year? it's very very similar if not indistinguishable. used to be my jam til it disappeared. elijah craig 12 year is my affordable go-to these days, but tonight i'm sipping four roses single barrel which is delightful.
― Captain Maximus, Friday, 21 November 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
haven't seen weller 12 in a few months now unfortunately
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 November 2014 03:48 (nine years ago) link
Van winkle 12 year/lot b is I believe just single barrel Weller 12. Technically not Pappy though. Weller 12 not gone, but all the "it's as good as Pappy" talk means it didn't linger when it shows up. That said, I haven't seen it for about a year, not long after someone tipped me it was going AWOL and I didn't believe him.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 November 2014 04:55 (nine years ago) link
i don't even think lot b is single barrel, i think it's just the best barrels of 12 year old weller blended and bottled. the general shortage of older weller and the fact that they can divert the existing supply to the more desirable van winkle label means weller 12 is going to be an endangered species for quite a long time.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 November 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link
picked up a bottle of four roses limited edition single barrel 2014--pretty excited since the 2012 edition was possibly my favorite bourbon ever. the price has certainly gone up.
― ryan, Monday, 8 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
I've had an easier time getting Pappy than any of the 4R limited editions.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
I couldn't believe what I was seeing for a few seconds!
― ryan, Monday, 8 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
I drank a whole bottle of this year's Booker's
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 8 December 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
http://www.wsj.com/articles/fear-of-a-bourbon-shortage-puts-enthusiasts-over-a-barrel-1418004595
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
I also picked up Hillrock's solera aged bourbon. it's quite interesting. a bit rough around the edges but I quite like it. excited to see what they'll be doing in 6 years or so.
― ryan, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link
xp This article sponsored by the Kentucky/Indiana bourbon manufacturers agency
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 03:28 (nine years ago) link
have we already talked white whiskey itt
i like that kings county white whiskey i must say
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 25 December 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link
Fuck a white whiskey.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 December 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link
^^^
Drinking some scrounged Highland Park right now, it's not bad at all.
― ticket to rmde (seandalai), Thursday, 25 December 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
isn't every bottom-shelf "whiskey" that was "aged" for 24 hours post-fermentation and then had caramel coloring added really a white whiskey
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 25 December 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link
"moonshine" aka cheap swill rushed to market as something else to avoid the aging process and start raking in dough with minimal effort.
Had some Booker's 25 last night, which was good enough that I wish I bought a bottle when I could.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 December 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
I tried the Dickel white whiskey in a bar because I was curious. It was alright but I don't think I'd buy it again.
― dan m, Thursday, 25 December 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
glenmorangie 1l and crested ten 70cl says its a good Xmas so far
― local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 26 December 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
benromach spreyside, kris krings
― warm winds and clear skies, Friday, 26 December 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link
I just bought a bottle of Bulliet 10 Year. Not bad at all, but disappointing.
Ah well. I'll certainly drink it.
― Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
currently sipping a 12 yr bushmills distillery reserve you have to drive up to the gates of the warehouse to get. very good, peppery.
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 April 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
bought a bottle of springbank 15 year today. really like it a lot so far.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Sunday, 5 April 2015 07:40 (eight years ago) link
???http://www.wired.com/2015/04/lost-spirits/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
I think I prefer last year's Bookers to this year's
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link
http://www.themanbookerprize.com/sites/default/files/images/books/132.Richard%20Flanagan-The%20Narrow%20Road%20To%20The%20Deep%20North%20cover.jpg
― Killarney Hilton (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
xxp OK, that Wired link is fascinating
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
(the link is not descriptive, it describes a new technology for reproducing the aging process of "brown spirits" in a much shorter timespan
20 years in 6 days
― sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
http://bostonapothecary.com/investigating-lost-spirits-investigations-part-i/
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Thursday, 11 June 2015 09:08 (eight years ago) link
Bulleit 10 Year is... not all that impressive
However, buying it on clearance at Target for about fifty cents less than normal Bulleit is good!
― Upright Mammal (mh), Monday, 15 June 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link
xp thanks for that link seandalai, also fascinating
― sleeve, Monday, 15 June 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link
just gifted a bottle of 18 yr old glendronach. excellent.
― irl lol (darraghmac), Friday, 10 July 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
attn chicagoans
https://twitter.com/KimbarkBev/status/667028638676574212
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Ha, that's one way to do it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
I made it down there in time last year, not lookin' likely this year
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
I could do it, in theory, but that tweet is already 2 hours old, isn't it?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
yeah, but they don't start until 6 and there's only one favorite so far
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link
iirc last year I saw the tweet while I was in class, ended up making it down there about an hour later and they still had a couple bottles
they jack the prices up though
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
love this stuff
― starkiller based god (Treeship), Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link
its good
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link
my favorite kind is bourbon but rn i am drinking scotch
― starkiller based god (Treeship), Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:39 (eight years ago) link
i'm trying to turn myself into a scotch person, there's so much more scotch to try and the bourbon scene is full of basic bottles and ripoffs these days
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:42 (eight years ago) link
imo the problem with scotch in north america (or bourbon abroad) is the import/scarcity price difference
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link
i don't think i'll ever prefer scotch tbh, but it's good to mix it up.
this shit is my jam always and forever. i like how it is in a genie bottle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willett_Pot_Still_Reserve
― starkiller based god (Treeship), Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link
the bourbon scene is full of basic bottles and ripoffs these days
otm it is a huge problem
I do love good bourbon though
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link
My wife bought a pint of OGD BIB 100 with the intent of making hot toddies and the didn't drink it... It's been a while but it's still really good.
― pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 4 February 2016 02:48 (eight years ago) link
that's a great mixing bourbon, i don't use anything else for juleps
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 03:04 (eight years ago) link
a lot of people i knowfor mixing use old crow
― starkiller based god (Treeship), Thursday, 4 February 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link
Have you tried the Willett 2-years coming out of their new distillery? Shockingly good for a whiskey that young.
― controversial but fabulous (I DIED), Thursday, 4 February 2016 05:18 (eight years ago) link
Said it before on the bourbon thread, but Evan Williams Black is a good cheaper substitute for Jack Daniels if you are going to mix it with coke. I always got a couple bottles of Evan Williams bourbon around either the black, white (which is Bottled in Bond) or the 1783 which is my current favorite.
I know Churchill Downs switched to using Old Forester from Early Times for the Juleps at the track.
Drank a bit of Very Old Barton for the first time last weekend at band practice. It's pretty mellow tasting stuff. Not bad.
I'll need to look up that Willett. It's mind boggling how many different labels are out there.
― earlnash, Thursday, 4 February 2016 05:32 (eight years ago) link
Old Crow?!? Blecch
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 4 February 2016 06:39 (eight years ago) link
Old Crow is, probably literally, Jim Beam they wasn't aging right so they pulled the barrels early
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link
I have the good fortune of having several good to great liquor stores in my immediate area. But yeah, the generally available stuff is pretty consistently average.
That being said, I have a lot of love for the Beam high proof bottles - Bookers and Bakers. I can always find them, even if I don't want to spend the $55 - $65 to buy them. I have also really come to appreciate Bulleit 10 yr. It really opens up, and has some really great spice. They have it at Trader Joe's all the time.
― Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 4 February 2016 14:30 (eight years ago) link
Really? I've had Bulleit 10 year and kind of found it overpriced and not really remarkable. I bought it at Target when it went on clearance for some reason for $28. It was a good deal at that price.
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link
I got a bottle of Belle Meade Sherry Cask finished bourbon over the weekend and it is absolutely delicious. I really like sherry-finished whiskeys! Although I guess I've only tried two of them, this and Glenmorangie Lasanta. Still. Yum.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link
In other news, a week or two ago Elijah Craig 12 finally dropped the age statement. RIP, EJ12.
Best cheap whiskey is no-doubt Evan Williams BIB (white label). Bulleit, it's cheap, alright, but part of the sketchy rip-off problem, often courtesy Diageo, which has been pushing fake fancy juice on unsuspecting consumers for years now.
Still say Four Roses almost across the board produces the best, most consistent everyday product.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link
xpost Angel's Envy is port finished, isn't it? Same sort of idea.
fwiw Bulleit Rye, Dickel Rye, Templeton Rye, and possibly a few others are pretty much the same whiskey processed differently. there's a difference in taste profile but you can swap them for each other pretty easily.
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link
Yeah the port-finished ones are also good! although I've only had the Glenmorangie one.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 February 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link
Need a scotch thread
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link
whiskey thread! My go-to is Bulleit, formerly Makers Mark. When I'm feeling fancy, I'll splurge for Knob Creek. When regular Bulleit isn't avail, I'll go for Buffalo Trace, which is surprisingly similar. Maybe it's another for the list upright mammal?
― Dominique, Thursday, 4 February 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link
Bulliet 10 yr is decent but yeah overpriced. It's a lot like the four roses single barrel (which is also easy to find), if you're into that type of bourbon.
― ryan, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
Cask strength Maker's Mark is a pretty good bourbon.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
Anyone try the jefferson's "ocean aged" bourbon? I have a bottle that I've been planning to give away but if it's really good maybe I should keep it.
― ryan, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
Speaking of Jefferson's, if you ever see the "presidential select" you should grab it. Truly outstanding.
― ryan, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Jefferson's is another one guilty of some truly inspired levels of bullshit.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
I bought knob creek smoked maple variation recently.It's kind of gross and I'm not really sure why I did that.
What are people's go-to affordable whiskeys? I usually get Buffalo Trace ($35 here) but feel kind of in a rut.
― chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link
$35 and under is what I think of as affordable.
― chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
imo there are a handful of duds between $20 and $35 but the vast majority is drinkable
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
Jim Beam Black, when on sale, is worth picking up imo
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link
yeah that one, the OGD BIB100 as noted, and Four Roses are my go-to bottles
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
good choices
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
Weller also falls in that range and I've enjoyed it
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
I have had both the At Sea and Presidential Select versions of Jefferson's, thankfully they were gifts bc I don't think I could ever muster the will to pay $$$ for something like that. They were good, for sure! I think I posted about each of them way back itt.
― pratt truss it (dan m), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, February 4, 2016 1:49 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
definitely, its higher up in the price ranges that you can get burned ime. bourbon obviously an easy target for new wave "artisanal craft" bullshit w/ cool labels and bottles filled with garbage warehouse whiskey
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
good affordable (less than $40) bourbons imo:
woodford reserve, perhaps the best affordable bourbonknobelmer t lee (is this still around? i seem to recall they are not)makersdickel
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
bakers and bookers are also both good over $40 bourbons (both beam brand iirc)
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link
this is useful to me. in the past I've done knob creek, dickel (#8 and #12... which are good but can be a bit much eventually?), evan williams single barrel, and some others. I usually have a bottle or two of old granddad or heaven hill or some other mixing bourbon.
maybe I haven't hit many of the unrecognizable duds because I tend to cap spending at $40
― chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
I've also enjoyed eagle rare but can't remember how much it costs.
― chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
yeah I like that as well
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
$30 or so iirc
Eagle Rare is what I get – $22 or so iircxp
― if thou gaz long into the coombs, the coombs will also gaz into thee (WilliamC), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
makers is good but kind of expensive? it's the go to "i would like a good bourbon" but it doesn't really have anything distinctive. it also doesn't have any negatives! just smooth, drinkable, not too weak or burning
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
ETL shows up very occasionally, maybe like once a year
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
ah ok
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
yikes I think eagle rare is more like $40 here? dickel is also generally at least $35 and I feel like I see people talking about it being cheaper than that a lot.
― chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link
yea there is a pretty wide variance in pricing i've noticed, even within the same town. i usually see dickel (#12 i think is the one i know) for $19-$21. knob for ~$30 or so, woodford for ~$30, been a while since i've bought whiskey though, i received bourbons as gifts for a number of years and now have maybe 12 bottles or so in my cabinet that are all around 1/3 or 1/2 full
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
iirc dickel is supposed to be in the low end of the $25 range, it used to be kind of the non-jack daniel's tennessee whiskey and was priced around the same or lower, but I think it's now seen as a better (and less watered down) product
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
whiskey party at marcos's house!
yeah ok, so these are just new york prices I'm experiencing then. never seen any variety of dickel for less than $35. knob creek $35-40. buffalo trace consistently $35.
― chinavision!, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link
haha xp
― marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link
i also think maybe dickel has gotten more expensive over the years? when i first started drinking bourbon it was definitely on the cheaper end
it has!
the nice part about living in iowa is the state liquor distribution system publishes the wholesale prices of everything they distribute, so you can get an idea of what the markup is
Dickel No. 12 wholesales for $20.25http://iowaabd.com/alcohol/products/pricing
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
Benchmark is basically Buffalo Trace that didn't make the cut from what I understand.
Dickel and Beam have both gone up about $5-6 a bottle in the past few years.
― earlnash, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
almost everything has!
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
been mostly drinking Green Spot lately, that is some insanely great shit.
got a bottle of Angel's Envy Rye Whiskey, which is aged in the rum casks.
you guys familiar with this one and if so, y/n?
https://media2.caskers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/1000x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/i/nikka-coffey-grain-whisky-1.jpg
― nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link
Green spot otm
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link
i went to a divey class old bar in downtown L.A. with my dad and he wanted a tullamore dew, which they didn't have, and the server said "let me give you a taste of this other irish whiskey we have, you may like it." and it's become the family go-to whiskey ever since.
― nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link
I don't think we have green spot here? I'll be on the lookout for it
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
where you at? it's recently become more widely available.
― nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
I stand corrected, it's on that price list I linked upthread, so it's somewhere
looks like it's more expensive so I'll have to go to the nicer store
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Its v much in the lineage of the other notable Jamesons, rly. Just very very good and not bad value compared to a redbreast or obv midleton
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link
irish whiskey very drinkable, fun to drink imo
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link
As a country we would certainly seem to agree
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link
I note that green spot now seems to be the same price of redbreast locally....is there a big difference btwn them over there? Might plump for latter all things being equal.
― broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link
green spot is really wonderful stuff
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link
I usually drink the normal Jim Beam when mixing with ginger ale (because there's no point in getting a good/expensive booze when it will be masked by mixer). Maker's for a step up from Beam when not mixing, Woodford Reserve for two steps up. I don't think I've had a bourbon fancier then Knob Creek or Bulleit - and for those, I think the fanciness is lost on my palate, so it's a matter of diminishing returns to spend more than $30ish. It's all pee and lost memories in a day or so anyway.
That said, I am so glad there are people out there taking it seriously and cultivating a connoisseurship of fine distinctions. Truly, rock on, whiskeyheads.
― please won't you be my enabler (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link
i like the Nikka Grain i think it might be a little overpriced tho
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link
I got a 500ml bottle of Nikka Coffey Grain 12-year (normal is a blend w/ no age statement) at Nikka's Yoichi distillery last year and it's lovely.
I also heard a bartender in LA say the Coffey Grain was "made with coffee" and almost broke my glass.
― controversial but fabulous (I DIED), Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link
I think the fanciness is lost on my palate
I think if you go BIB or barrel proof you usually do OK. The former (albeit a shrinking category) is full of bargains, and while the latter stuff can be hard on the palate - nuance tends to go out the window after your first sip of something high-proof - it promises at least a certain degree of value/quality. Though imo the magic proof is somewhere between 95 and 105. These 135 or whatever proof monsters like Stagg Jr. just kill my tongue, as much as I enjoy sipping them.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link
splash of water
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link
the thing about high-proof stuff that can't be replicated is the super-viscous mouthfeel. sometimes i really crave that.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 5 February 2016 01:58 (eight years ago) link
pop it in the freezer for a while, has that effect. makes it taste terrible though... better to use aquavit.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:54 (eight years ago) link
just got a bottle of Port Charlotte Islay Barley, very excited to try it out this evening
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 15 February 2016 02:39 (eight years ago) link
Wow. I'm not super knowledgeable about Scotch, but this is unlike anything I've ever had, truly a transformational experience. Like drinking an ultra smooth bonfire, absolutely remarkable. I think I've found a new favorite.
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Monday, 15 February 2016 05:00 (eight years ago) link
Stagg Jr.
(thumbs up)
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link
Staff Jr varies from batch to batch, but the last couple have been pretty strong (in every sense).
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link
Stagg, duh.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
My wife got me a bottle of Bib & Tucker bourbon, my yearly $$$ bottle for my birthday. It's... different. Not bad, but not much like any other bourbon I've had recently. A more earthy flavor, almost reminiscent of Dickel?
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link
http://fb.onlykosherwine.com/Image.asp?src=05164.jpg&altSrc=ImageNotAvailable.gif&folder=CDV&imgPath=%2FImageLibrary&width=276&height=300
this stuff is baaaaad
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link
do they sell this outside of williamsburg? apparently it's distilled in minnesota. my suspicion is that in different cities it's sold under different brands?
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 05:05 (seven years ago) link
Old Silverlake, Old Deep Ellum, Old Wicker Park, Old Capitol Hill...
― nickn, Friday, 8 April 2016 05:31 (seven years ago) link
yep yep
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link
old fishtown
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 05:41 (seven years ago) link
the worst part about this whiskey -- besides the whiskey itself -- is that the label shows the brooklyn bridge rather than the williamsburg bridge.
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 05:46 (seven years ago) link
are you sure that's not a bottle of motor oil?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
reminds me of the dude at a bar trying to tell the bartender that Old Crow has a noble lineage
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 8 April 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link
i only spent $9 for it. i think i'll mix it with coke or something in the future, idk. it's a truly bad whiskey. worse than old crow. worse than old granddad. not as bad as that fireball cinammon whiskey people get sometimes.
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
old granddad is decent!
i probably posted this about six times, but old crow is, as far as expert whiskey writers have determined, just jim beam that wasn't aging right that they pulled and bottled early
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 8 April 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link
i won't sit by and listen to this slander about old granddad, treesh
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 8 April 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT OLD GRANDAD
― pratt truss it (dan m), Friday, 8 April 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link
old granddad was the whiskey my parents kept (but never drank) in our liquor cabinet growing up and i have very specific memories of doing shots and shots and shots of old granddad as a teenager and getting really sick, just drinking way too much, having friends of mine come over and seeing them get sick too. we obv didn't know how to drink then, we were like 14-15, but because of those experiences i cannot really see that orange bottle without getting a little bit nauseous. tbh i think the very same bottle is still in my parents' liquor cabinet almost 20 years later
― marcos, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link
My family are all scotch drinkers for some reason
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link
inexplicably we had a bottle of black velvet
bluuuurgh
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link
We usually had sambuca for some unholy reason. Evil stuff, sambuca
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
would love to be in a house that just had a bottle of ouzo
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link
oh i love sambuca & ouzo
― marcos, Friday, 8 April 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link
noooooooo
― Treeship, Friday, 8 April 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
that stuff is very bad
i live within walking distance of the local greek orthodox church that has a greek food fair every year. they have shots of ouzo! no whiskey, though.
― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 8 April 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
too lazy and don't trust google but how long does whisky last?
it's taking me forever to finish this yamazaki single malt
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 8 April 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
Doesn't go bad. Likewise, doesn't age.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 April 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link
so my don draper routine was without purpose afterall
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 8 April 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
Thinking about cracking this open for some post-Finals/pre-work R'n'Rhttps://dl.dropbox.com/s/64q5safnspp2fmf/20160619_225943-1.jpg?dl=0
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 20 June 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link
who should say no to such a winsome thought?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 20 June 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link
apparently not me, good stuff!
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 20 June 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link
The Uigeadail was running low, so I picked up a bottle of Laphroaig 10 year today. It's much lighter and smoother than I expected after the intensity of the Ardbeg. A glass of scotch and Moodymann on the stereo are just the right combo at the moment.
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 5 February 2017 07:48 (seven years ago) link
this years writers tears (no age statement but very decent cheap pot still) is the irishman.
― Mother Teresa May I (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 February 2017 10:02 (seven years ago) link
How do you mean darraghmac? The same company make The Irishman and Writers Tears brands, don't they? I've never tried any of The Irishman line, is it good as well?
I had Writers Tears a year or two ago and really liked it. I keep meaning to pick it up again. I see there's a variant called Writers Tears Red Head which is matured in Oloroso sherry butts, which sounds very intriguing indeed. Marks & Spencer used to stock the standard version here.
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Sunday, 5 February 2017 13:23 (seven years ago) link
what do people think of the app distiller?
beer has been taking up most of my time when drinking but these last two weeks i've switched to whisky and was curious to check some of the distilleries on an untappd-like app
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
XP sorry Krakow missed that til now
Seems that every year now there's a good no-age statement whiskey launched to get a brand off the ground, presumably worldwide demand is the driver.
I'd been of the habit of avoiding anything that looked gimmicky along these lines until my local whiskey shop - which btw is the best shop of any type anywhere in the world imo- recommended the writers tears as a very worthy cut-price green spot alternative and yep pleasant surprise.
Course, a year later and it's seventy quid a bottle.
This year, so, get on Irishman. Founders reserve is setting me back thirty odd euro and it's worth twice that in the current market.
― virginity simple (darraghmac), Friday, 21 April 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
there's some cheaper "irish whiskey" brand called "2 gingers" that is palatable I've bought on sale. local store must have bought it as an incentive or has leftover stock from the holiday. not bad at $16/bottle
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Saturday, 22 April 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/dining/jack-daniels-whiskey-slave-nearest-green.html
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
Just tried glenfiddichs india pale ale single malt scotchAnyone have opinions on this?
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link
my opinion is that you ought to share it.
(waggles empty glass)
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:27 (six years ago) link
Cheers aimless 🥃
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
I’m game for experiments, kind of pricey forays usually
― mh, Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
I’m about to finish my yamazaki 18 yr old single malt so this glenfiddich bottle was just something to hold me up while i decide on a better buyWas feeling adventurousRecs are appreciated good sirs
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
(raises glass to ∞)
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 November 2017 02:58 (six years ago) link
Elijah Craig
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 23 November 2017 05:01 (six years ago) link
Would've tended to avoid those no-age new-age chancer blends but as things get tighter it's inevitable I spose
I have tried the three jameson masters series (Cooper's croze etc) and was pleasantly surprised (my pref is for the distillers safe which might be both high and sweet for American tastes)
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2017 08:08 (six years ago) link
If have really enjoyed the Nikka Coffey Grain and Coffey Malt, whiskeys, both very well rounded. I’m going to visit one of the the Nikka distilleries in January which I’m pretty excited about.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 23 November 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link
I was at a nikka tasting last Christmas and some of it was pretty tough for me to take but when they get that caramel feel right then I'm in and I'm in deep
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link
There’s a bottle of the Coffey grain calling to me across the room, but it’s a birthday present for someone who bought me a very nice bottle of Suntory Hakushu for mine so I can touch it.
The hakushu was pretty nice, mildly peaty.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 23 November 2017 08:43 (six years ago) link
I had a bottle of the Glenfiddich IPA experimental series and really enjoyed it myself, though general reports are somewhat "meh" I believe. I found it a good one for summer - quite light and fresh. I wouldn't go so far as to buy a second bottle, but I am glad I had one.
― brain (krakow), Thursday, 23 November 2017 09:12 (six years ago) link
ie thursdays
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link
My glennie ipa cost me $70 usd on sale so I thought it was a decent price?Wanted to buy hibiki but also wanted to try something newDo you guys make cocktails w cheap stuff or go for the 12yr+ bottles or whatAlso it’s about 30 something degrees centigrades in los angeles right now so it’s p much summer
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link
Depends on context and cocktail but tbh I'd focus more on the fit than the price if mixing.
making an Irish coffee or hot toddy, for instance, a peaty or a rye or bourbon is not going to work and you can spend thousands for all I care. Maybe within a clean pot still there's grades of difference between throwing a Midleton Vs a twenty quid Paddy's into the mix but I'd be dubious
An old fashioned otoh put something good into it
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:38 (six years ago) link
i've never had a japanese whiskey! what should i start with?
yesterday i bought a standard 10-y-o laphroaig opened it up and was like "ahhhh my old friend"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link
Nikka from the barrel was a good intro iirc. Like, an intro typical enough of the style imo?
Suntory 18 year yamazaki is great
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2017 10:51 (six years ago) link
There are so few bourbons with age statements left on the shelf, let alone with 12 years on them, that mixing with those bourbons would be insane. Weller 12 ... allocated. Elijah Craig 12 ... gone. Even Knob Creek dropped the age statement. I guess there's McKenna 10 still hanging around? Anyway, for mixing choose something cheaper but high proof, like Wild Turkey 101 or Old Grand Dad 114. The alcohol helps the flavor cut through the other ingredients. But even something simple like an Old Fashioned, I wouldn't go beyond a commonly acquired rye, like Rittenhouse. Save the good stuff to sip neat. And honestly there aren't that many cocktails that call for bourbon or rye to begin with, even fewer that call for scotch. (Though tis the season for the Penicillin, one of my fave cocktails, that calls for blended scotch, a float of peaty scotch, and honey-ginger syrup.)
The other day I lucked into a bottle of Four Roses' Limited Edition Small Batch. I love Four Roses in pretty much all its iterations.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
I brought a bottle of Henry McKenna (the cheap blended not the bottled in bond) to a whisky weekend at a cabin with some guys where everyone brought a bottle then we did a NCAA style tournament of blind tasting matchups.my $11 bottle emerged as champion, sending several fancy pants $50-$70 bottles packing
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
the artisanal experimental cocktails at fancy bars that use expensive whiskey feel acceptable but I feel guilty using something that cost over $35 per bottle (adjust for your local currency and regional inflation) with anything more than a splash of water or a single ice cube at home
― mh, Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
Agreed, at home my cocktail whiskey standbys are Rittenhouse rye, which is unfortunately expensive in oz, Suntory Kakubin, which is cheap and cheerful, Wild turkey and whatever is on special at the Greek supermarket across the way.
I’m sure there’s a name for a Manhattan made with Scotch and Johnny walker makes a good base for it. It’s alll about the vermouth anyway.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
scotch manhattan is called a rob roy
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
Rittenhouse expensive? How much we talking?I make my old fashioneds with that and it’s about 20 something usd here
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
Im playing bartender tonight and thinking what to do w this glenfiddich bottleThey recommend running a twist of blood orange to the rim then adding it into the glass but i cldnt find bloody blood oranges
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
there are....lots of cocktails that use a rye base.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
$75 Australian, it used to be $100 so it’s improved a bit. I feel like I wasn’t paying more than $35 in the PLCB store in Pittsburgh.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
XpMentioned this upthread but it’s the glenfiddich ipa — their experimental series one?Tastes different than a regular scotch tho surprisingly not hoppy at allP smooth tho
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
Ed that is very expensive I feel for you
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
Pricing is weird, I can by a bottle of Talisker for less.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 23 November 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
CAD, rye cocktails are far less common than gin, rum, etc.Rittenhouse here is less than $30, though price has been going up.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 November 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
Hmm, thinking about it: Old Fashioned, Manhattan, Vieux Carre, Sazerac, boulevardier ... what common rye cocktails am I missing?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 November 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
Friend gave me a bottle of Laphroaig Triple Wood - had a couple of drinks and when I burped the next day it was still peaty
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 23 November 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
because of current trends I see a lot more whiskey cocktails on restaurant menus than gin ones!
― mh, Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
ah missed the restriction to rye... if you open it up to bourbon cocktails where rye is fine, you end up with a lot
― mh, Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
I'm thinking of traditional/classic drinks. Buy if you're talking about contemporary concoctions, the permutations are endless.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link
Laphroaig Triple Wood is what I currently have at home. I don't hate it, but it suffers a bit from an identity crisis, the different flavors don't seem to know how to exist with each other, with the sweet sherry overtones butting heads with the smokey base. I miss the light medicinal tang of the 10 year.
― Moodles, Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
i've never had a japanese whiskey! what should i start with?yesterday i bought a standard 10-y-o laphroaig opened it up and was like "ahhhh my old friend"― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:45 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:45 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Japanese All whiskey is going through a boom right now. Not sure where you are now but there must be a bar you could go and try a few. It seems to be becoming very common in Melbourne at least.
I can heartily recommend the Akashi White Oak as a good starting point, the tikka from the barrel mentioned above is good too.
One of our local bottle shops does 250ml splits from fancy bottles of whiskeys from around the world which is both delicious and dangerous.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
My Sydneysider brother in law is constantly gifted Scotch, but bourbon seems to be gradually catching on.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
Re jp whiskiesHad a few really good whiskies when in japan but hibiki is probably the second most sought after (17yr maybe first?) after yamazakiAnything 12+, if you can actually manage to get a hold of oneOnly thing is prices in the west are super inflated
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 23 November 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
Suntory Yamazaki is good but it’s climbed from the low 30s to mid 50s.
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 23 November 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link
rising
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
Top tip is to go to the liquor store in Tokyo station where you can taste nips of all kinds of rare stuff for 50-150yen a go.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 24 November 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
Monkey Shoulder has been a hit every time I bring a bottle somewhere. Fairly cheap Scotch blend, not challenging but not super sweet or anything.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 24 November 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
CAD, rye cocktails are far less common than gin, rum, etc.
Rittenhouse here is less than $30, though price has been going up.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, November 23, 2017 3:11 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm sorry, you can count "traditional/classic" cocktails in any number of ways but i just don't really agree with this! rye (and bourbon), applejack, cognac, holland gin, and jamaican rum were basically on equal footing in the formative years of the cocktail.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 November 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
I'm not arguing that. Just want you to name names!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 November 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link
Revisiting the laphroiag 10Smokier than I remember it but i just opened the bottle so it’ll probably mellow outAlmost has a bacon note to it but i guess that’s the seaweed
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 7 October 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link
Also what is going on with laphroiag giving “1 sq ft” of their island for freeI don’t like it enough to get my own plot but it sounds gimmicky
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 7 October 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link
…the coffee of whiskeys?
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 8 October 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
I have not been drinking scotch every night of this werk
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 12 October 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link
Week
Drinking scotch every night is fine. Just make sure to brush your teeth after. I used to buy scotch for people as holiday gifts, but then the next year would find the unopened bottle still there and I would then drink it all. It was like regifting to myself. Self regifting?
― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link
Yeah i agreeThe laphroiag 10 especially — very unique
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 12 October 2018 02:07 (five years ago) link
It's smokey yet light, very drinkable with a medicinal edge.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 12 October 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link
the last bottles of scotch I drank by myself were Oban 14 yr and Springbank (whatever the most common is).
― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link
Tried the Laphroaig Brodir (48%) last week. Completely agree with the description that it’s a reverse Laphroaig, sweetness first followed by a build of intense smokiness. Not sure I’d buy a bottle but pretty great for a nip.
― You (bleeping) need me. You can't Finn without me (fionnland), Friday, 12 October 2018 07:02 (five years ago) link
Springbank is fucking amazing
Oban too
Highland Park has usually been my go-to but I can also get with Bunnahabin or however you spell it and Lagavulin
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 October 2018 08:13 (five years ago) link
Also what is going on with laphroiag giving “1 sq ft” of their island for free
I don’t like it enough to get my own plot but it sounds gimmicky
I got my plot! Yes, it's basically gimmick but quite a nice one. If you go they used to lend you a pair of wellies so you could go and look at the peat bogs. I don't know if they still do.
― Ned Trifle X, Friday, 12 October 2018 08:24 (five years ago) link
I'll have to dig out the certificate. It was a while ago.
Ha damn broGood to kno
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 12 October 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
I really should get some whiskey to take back with me. I think at home I now only have Jameson and a bottle of mesquite smoked arizona bourbon that someone gave me.
― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
When I got married my officemate gave me a bottle of Yamazaki as my present, I was like "you know me so well."
― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
I treasured my yamazaki 18 for maybe 5 years before I decided it was time to finish itHaven’t had j whiskies in a while
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 12 October 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link
just opened a glenlivet founders reserve and it smells as christmassy as anything ive ever had but the taste is much thinner, smoother and higher than expected
very good tho
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 16 August 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link
The Onion's video "Jim Beam Releases New Whiskey Specially Made For Knife, Gun Wounds" is still one of my favorite things ever and I think about it a lot more than I probably should.
― Yerac, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
irish version would be for toothache
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 16 August 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
bottle of redbreast 12 made its way back onto my shelf for first time in years lately and its better than i gave it credit for, a richer and sweeter green spot would be a fair guideline
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
treated myself to a bottle of yellow spot right before xmas but haven’t dug into it yet.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 January 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
ive always found it skippable tbh
for the money, green spot (i recall you are well acquainted with btw) is better, in particular the leo bartonville version is a nice twist
otoh, i treated meself to a bottle of red spot this winter just to see whether that would also disappoint, and imo its right up there with midleton, so....no knowing til you try
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 January 2020 00:11 (four years ago) link
Plenty of offers all year so the shelf is in good shape. Polished off my midleton last night which hit me as a little higher and lighter than id remembered
Redbreast 15 is sweet, rich and a match for midleton in type and quality, its priced between that and green spot and is worth the extra on the latter
Glenmorangie quinta ruban is disappointing, fair bang of the oak barrels still in it which id describe as roughly blended rather than having character
Currach single malt is aged in seaweed casks and is very curious indeed. Would be rough enough without that but the salt comes in at the end and really makes it interesting. Im drinking it with ice to soften it which id never usually do but it works
Highland park valknut which is a pretty close runner to glenfiddich 12, maybe a richer, sweeter finish
Green spot, perennial good house whiskey
Jameson, xmas donation from in laws, perennial ok house whiskey (tho black bush preferred for that purpose)
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 05:20 (three years ago) link
i swear highland park used to be peatierused to have a better bottle, too
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 January 2021 10:33 (three years ago) link
Lol i was reading through the thread last night and every six months or so you pop in to type Highland Park
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 12:02 (three years ago) link
Very very very curious about the currach reading that writeup
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, 1 January 2021 12:37 (three years ago) link
That is intriguing indeed
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 1 January 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link
Intrigue/curiosity would be about right i think, because i could easily see where someone wouldnt like it at all
If you saw it where you could get a shot without committing id think that the best approach
Goes really well with good chocolate, if that lessens anybody's risk factor
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link
(This reminds me, I sent the aul fella a box of chocolates from the place you got yours at Easter and he was so happy, was like “where did you hear of this crowd”)
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, 1 January 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link
Does the Currach also have strong peat flavor? I could see seaweed/salt playing well with peat.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 1 January 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
Was that skelligs or somewhere else, gyac- been a good year for ordering chocs tbh
xp nope not at all, the harshness is more of what id associate with american oak rather than anything smokey
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link
Wilde irish, i remember now.
Just1ne discovery, that
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link
Yep that’s the fellas! I think they deliver here but I’ll save that for a later point in the year when we’re on lockdown ten and in the pits of despair
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, 1 January 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link
once upon a time the customs and duty imposed on our expats was more figurative alas now youll be paying a nice packet on trve ngael chocs
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
As far as I can tell, Currach is not available in the US, so won't be testing it out too soon.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 1 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
xp you forget of course I can get them delivered to the parents and collect them when I’m next over
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, 1 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
Pick moodles up a bottle so willya
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
Solid plan
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 1 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
lol deems has my numberam currently drinking what i can only describe as “hipster whiskey”, some supposedly mysterious 10 year single malt from islay called “Seaweed&Aeons&Digging&Fire” and you know, it’s pretty goodnext to it is an unopened bottle of what i’m tempted to call “tory whiskey” - a 12 year talisker
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
The three whiskey men in my circle have or will all miss their 40ths because of covid and the plan is to do some cycling/ferrying through the island distilleries once this is all over to make it up to ourselves
Im not mad on peaty tbh but can get into it with a bit of practice so for the group etc....
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 1 January 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
i love the stanklagavulin or springbank probably my favourites
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link
Love the peat, my go to for intense flavor is Port Charlotte. Laphroaig for something a bit lighter.
Working through a bottle of Ardbeg 10 yr right now, which is surprisingly mild.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 1 January 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
laphroaig so good
fuck me, just looked at what springbank costs. i swear they used to have normal-ish bottles for sale!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 January 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link
I got a bottle of craft-distilled rye as a gift. I'm a bourbon drinker typically, and I take it meat. Do ppl drink rye neat? I always thought it was more popular in cocktails.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 2 January 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
🥩
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 2 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link
it's worth a shot! there's a pretty broad range of ryes these days taking all the craft stuff into account.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 2 January 2021 00:12 (three years ago) link
I got a Writers Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey for xmas, not sure if it gets more hipster than that, but it's good. Rather mellow with a slight honey tone. Sweeter and 'warmer' than I usually enjoy, but it's a good one.
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link
Its excellent
One of those that emerge every year or so to muscle in, and like the irishman has been very good at making the most of the cheaper end of the market (tho writers tears have quickly ascended, deservedly so imo)
Very representative of what id consider irish vs scotch too- clear, sweet, warm, spiced, hits quite high quite early, no peat
Someone picked well for you!
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link
Ashamed, upon reading the thread back, to admit that ive been enjoying sipping neat makers mark this winter.....
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:34 (three years ago) link
Was on islay in the autumn of 2019 and really enjoyed it. I think there's 8 distilleries there (or possibly 9) and with the isle of jura and it's distillery just across the way would be cracking for a whiskey tour.
I think there's a couple non-peaty whiskies on the island, bruichladdich definitely.
Did the ardbeg tour - not out of a preference, the laphroaig tours were full for the day iirc - and it was decent, the grub in their cafe was not bad too.
Weather was atrocious the 3 nights we were there but it's a lovely wee spot
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:34 (three years ago) link
Nice, that sounds the ticket
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link
It was the missus, Deems! Admittedly, it was the hipster component that made her (not a connaisseur by any means) pick it, it came in a Ulysses-inspired festive packaging. I'm really pleased w/ it though, it's very warm and spiced indeed.
I'm def gonna get the Currach. Trying more/different whiskey is a good new years resolution imo.
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link
As someone from the bog, admit to being slightly upset that peat is Scotland’s flavour, not ours.
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link
That cannot stand. And I say this as someone from a bog myself.
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 2 January 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link
I think I'm right in saying a large proportion of the island of Great Britain is peat bog.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link
Blanket bog mainly rather than raised bog iirc?
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 2 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link
We *can* do it (Connemara a fine example) but whether through history or tradition its never really been a characteristic of what we produce (possibly because production of the initial spirit was geared for blending as a major feature of our production process back at the peak of the industry, not sure tbh)
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
I poured a little rye, neat. It's pretty good! It's from 11 Wells, part of the Minnesota rye trend, I guess? https://www.growlermag.com/a-pocket-full-of-rye-how-a-lowly-northern-grain-is-mounting-a-comeback-through-whiskey/
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 3 January 2021 05:53 (three years ago) link
I have had Roknar once before, I realized after reading that article. It was $50+ at the store though.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 3 January 2021 05:56 (three years ago) link
the classic laddie thenight. an islay but not one of the better ones
― ||||||||, Sunday, 3 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link
I've been curious about that because I like Port Charlotte. Not too great?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 3 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
... only for an islay. when your peers are ardbeg, lagavulin, caol ila, laphroaig etc, it's a tough gig
― ||||||||, Sunday, 3 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link
Finished a Glenlivet founder's reserve (which i don't think I'd mentioned above) and the gap annoyed me so I took a chance on Teelings small batch trusting that the rotgut theyd sold me when they first started out would have improved with time, experience and the few awards id seen them garner
Very typical irish pot still to start, maybe not as gentle as the others, but where its quite notable is that it doesnt come sweet at all despite a long enough finish. Cant see it becoming a favourite because i like em sweet, but certainly in no way a bad effort in the thirtyish quid bracket
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
Couple of sips later and i take it back about the sweetness, tho not as deep or rich as youd be used to
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
what the
https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/baudoinia-the-fungus-that-stopped-jack-daniels/
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:02 (eleven months ago) link