They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

xpost - same thing.

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see post at the tippy-top o' the thread;-)

I want to cry.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16328

In January we broke the news that Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios would be producing a reboot of Predator for 20th Century Fox. Our regular tipster was proven correct once again as the story was confirmed in April. Our tipster even scooped us on who would be penning the remake, now titled Predators.

So Mr. Anonymous is back again. And being that 20th Century Fox is remaking Predator, it doesn't surprise me at all that Fox is also going back to their catalog for a reboot of Ridley Scott's Alien.

What our tipster informed us is that - opposite the Predator situation - the plan is to stick with the original concept of only one alien on the ship.

Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and even Tony Scott are all on board to produce and have tapped Carl Rinsch to get beyond the camera and bring a new Ripley to the big screen.

Who is Carl Rinsch? I'm being told he's a commercial/music video director and does work for Scott Free Productions, who is also producing the remake.

In the original, the terror begins when the crew of a spaceship investigates a transmission from a desolate planet, and discovers a life form that is perfectly evolved to annihilate mankind. One by one, each crew member is slain until only Ripley is left, leading to an explosive conclusion that sets the stage for its stunning sequel, Aliens (my favorite film of all-time).

We'll keep you posted on any updates, but that's what we got for you this evening. Remember to take it as rumor until confirmed as many projects change through the course of development.

look what you did

shia lebeouf will def be alien

I figured this would happen, being that after all the bad sequels and AVP flicks the only logical way to milk the series was to go back to square one. But it doesn't hurt any less.

What is the purpose of this?

Predator, who cares. It was stupid to begin with and can probably only improve in Rodriguez's hands. But Alien was absolutely perfect as is. Waaaaaah!

However, if Pat O'Brien is actually cast as the Alien this will become a must-see

robert rodriguez isn't 1/10th the director that mctiernan is

Alien 3D

http://i39.tinypic.com/e80gld.jpg

Who won when Alien fought Predator?

i hope this is like star trek, showing how the young version of the original alien learned how to become the alien he is today

also i hope it is set at alien academy

do you mean the lumen of a person's gut???

also i hope it is set at alien academy

― s1ocki, Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What's that company that makes knockoff movies to coincide with releases? I have this theory that the only way to stop this revival madness is to saturate the market with so many degraded versions that any public appetite for them would be obliterated. ALIEN FANFICTION TO THE RESCUE

x-post

It could be like a more tragic Top Gun, where a fresh young facehugger falls in love with his instructor, a human woman. She dies in an accident, but a hundred years later he meets her great-graddaughter in the events of the first Alien.

that granddaughter? veronica cartright.

Legally Blonde Alien, with Reese Witherspoon

When a blonde sorority queen alien is dumped by her boyfriend, she decides to follow him to his planet to get him back and, once there, learns she has more legal savvy than she ever imagined.

Alien Brockovich, with Julia Roberts

An unemployed single alien mother becomes a legal assistant and almost single-handedly brings down a global power company accused of polluting a planet's water supply.

Wasn't that the plot of Erin Brockovich?

It's a tribute script.

How's this for high-concept: A remake of Predator starring the Alien as Predator.

re: alien brockovic -- I was making bad joke about Julia Roberts looking not quite human, having second mouth.

Would pay to see Ordinary Aliens dir. by Redford.

Chestburst On The 4th Of July

AVPVSW

Alien vs Predator vs Sand Worms (from Dune)

all human roles portrayed by Tracy Morgan

Who won when Alien fought Predator?

the predalien, duh

i would like to see a movie about an alien-human war done in the style of the thin red line

Why is it that every movie franchise is all about remakes and reboots these days? Doesn't anybody believe in sequels anymore? Personally, I would've wanted to know what happened after the ending of Alien 4, but apparently no one else cares.

omg yes

that is an xpost

tho pop culture is so weird these days that if someone told me that terrence malick was making the next alien movie i would believe it. i don't know if anything in popcult has the power to surprise me anymore.

will whoever the female lead in this remake wear as ridiculously small panties as Ripley in the remakes denouement?

are you asking me?

I don't know anyone else on ILX we could ask!

i'm asking the universe. plus slocki.

slocki, sloggi - ok, makes sense.

ok well... i might as well just tell you. the answer is yes!

terrence malick is directing the reboot of the first wives club franchise

i believe it, thank you for telling me true new information

hollywood officially sucks from now on

Oh for fuck's sake. [Shoots self]

im not even like a huge alien guy but this is about the most retarded shit ever.

on paper.

five years ago i'd have at least made an effort to say 'hey maybe it'll *exceed* the original'.

but it's a pretty basic story that can't be fucked with, and no-one would get sued if they made a different movie that involved an alien.

(Not That) Alien

industry/business people, do you know if there's some legal reason like company's rights to the franchise expire if they don't keep churning out remakes? I remember there was some bogus fantastic 4 movie made for some weird business-related reason.

Trading Places with a Wall Street player and an Alien switching roles.

Wall Street starring Alien in Gordon Gecko role (and one that pops out of Darryl Hannah at the end).

The fact that Rodriguez is going to remake Predator as Predators gave me major lols. A long running and rubbish joke I have with some friends is to question whether any sequel or remake will be called the name of the original film pluralised. If pluralisation doesn't work I ask if it will be the original title with "another" appended to the start and if that doesn't work I ask if it will be called the original with "again" at the end of it.

So presumably the sequel to Predators will be Another Predators again: the virus takes Manhattan.

Home Alone where the McCauley Culkin role is actually a young alien who discovers its powers while fending off would-be robbers.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2189/youvegotmail.jpg

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my new desktop background

industry/business people, do you know if there's some legal reason like company's rights to the franchise expire if they don't keep churning out remakes? I remember there was some bogus fantastic 4 movie made for some weird business-related reason.

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

ha, yeah Roger Corman made that one! supposedly bootlegs of it were sold at comic conventions for years.

http://www.teako170.com/ffmovie.html

That's insane. Has anyone here seen it?

it can't be much worse than the one that actually came out

industry/business people, do you know if there's some legal reason like company's rights to the franchise expire if they don't keep churning out remakes? I remember there was some bogus fantastic 4 movie made for some weird business-related reason.

I think this is true, and comic book superheroes is a good example. The actual superhero comic books are protected by copyright laws, and at the moment it's still a couple of decades before even the oldest of them fall into public domain. (However, apparently works copyrighted in the US before 1964 had to have their copyright renewed during the 28th year of their copyright term, otherwise they fell into the public domain. This has happened with at least some comics, records, and movies.) The names of superheroes are trademarks though, and trademark law is quite different from copyright. In order for a company to have the rigth to exclusive use of a trademark, the trademark has to be in active use. If the trademark isn't in active use for a certain period of time (in the US this is 5 years), it is considered public domain, and someone else can then register it. This, I think, is the reason DC comics has continuosly kept churning out Wonder Woman comic books throughout the decades, even during times when Wonder Woman has been quite unpopular. They don't want loose the trademark "Wonder Woman", so they have to have it in active use even if it means putting out comics that don't sell much. I'm not totally sure about this, but I assume the names "Alien" and "Predator" are similarly trademarked, so the same would apply to them as to Wonder Woman. I think there's been longer than a 5 year gap between Alien and Predator movies, but the various Alien and Predator comic books, books, and toys must've kept the trademarks in active use.

With 'Wonder Woman', too, I believe there was something in the creator (who was a bit of a mad genius)'s contract saying that if she didn't keep being published by DC Comics, the rights would revert to him and his family.

Are you sure about that? Because I can't imagine that back then, decades before the rise of creator-owned comics, any comic publisher would sign a contract like that. In those days pretty much every comic creator signed the copyright away to the company publishing the comic, which lead to cases like Siegel's and Shuster's famous 25-year legal battle to be recognized as the creators of Superman.

Wonder Woman is weird, though, like it was created by someone who wrote child psychology books as their main line or something like that. I guess I could just look it up...

Well, who knows about the rights, this is pretty interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston

An interesting case depicting the oddities of copyright and trademark law happened in the 1980s, when Malibu published two collections of old Mickey Mouse newspaper strips by Floyd Gottfredson. Apparently the strips themselves had fallen into public domain, probably because Disney hadn't bothered to renew their copyright in due time. However, Disney obviously still owns the trademark for Mickey Mouse, so Malibu couldn't use pictures of Mickey or even the name "Mickey Mouse" in the cover of the book. So they released those collections under the name "The Uncensored Mouse", with a totally black cover. Disney ended up suing them anyway. You can read more about the case here (scroll down a bit to get to the relevant part):

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/09/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-115/

http://www.collider.com/2009/05/29/exclusive-tony-scott-confirms-carl-rinsch-is-directing-alien-and-its-a-prequel/

A few days ago, Bloody-Disgusting reported that 20th century Fox was going to remake “Alien” and director Carl Rinsch would be helming the movie. Immediately fandom exploded with venom. I think one of the main reasons is that the original is a classic, and 20th Century Fox hasn’t been making films of that caliber recently.

So at today’s junket for Tony Scott’s new film “The Taking of Pelham 123″, I went up Tony after the press conference ended to ask him what was up with the remake.

The big news is he confirmed Carl Rinsch would be directing it and that it’s a prequel to his brother Ridley’s classic!

What Tony told me is after the jump:

Collider: 20th Century Fox is talking about remaking or redoing the original Alien. What’s going on with that?

alien_xenomorph_02.jpgTony Scott: Yes, Carl Rinsch is going to do the prequel to Alien. He’s one of our directors at our company.

Collider: I’m going to be blunt about this. Fox has not been doing a great job recently with their movies. They haven’t been an artist friendly studio. Are you guys going to have some creative control and make this a kick-ass film?

Tony: Yes! But Fox is our home. They finace our production company.

Collider: And I’m very happy that you guys have the financing. But a lot of the films they’ve been doing at the studio level, they’ve been nickel and diming and not giving fandom what they want. So I guess my question for you is…are you a little nervous about reengaging the franchise or are you excited.

Tony: I’m excited cause Ridley created the original and Carl Rinsch is one of the family.

Collider: When do you envision this film getting in front of cameras?

Tony: Hopefully the end of the year.

Collider: Will it be a summer of 2011 movie?

Tony: Honestly, I don’t know.

While I wish I could give you more info, I only had moments to talk with him. Look for more “Alien” info as I get it.

alien academy it is then

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118006722.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

'Alien' prequel takes off
Ridley Scott attached to return as director
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Twentieth Century Fox is resuscitating its "Alien" franchise. The studio has hired Jon Spaihts to write a prequel that has Ridley Scott attached to return as director.

Spaihts got the job after pitching the studio and Scott Free, which will produce the film.

The film is set up to be a prequel to the groundbreaking 1979 film that Scott directed. It will precede that film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship returning to Earth is awakened and sent to respond to a distress signal from a nearby planetoid. The crew discovers too late that the signal generated by an empty ship was meant to warn them.

The deal gives Fox another chance to keep the "Alien" franchise alive. There were three sequels to Scott's original, but it is the first time the director has set his mind on directing one.

Spaihts has become a go-to-guy for space thrillers. After Keanu Reeves became attached to his Warner Bros. sci-fi script "Shadow 19," Reeves hired Spaihts to write the space journey epic "Passengers," which is berthed at Morgan Creek. That script got Spaihts the meeting with Fox and Scott Free, and he won the job with an "Alien" reboot take that the studio and Scott loved.

Fox has separately hired him to rewrite "The Darkest Hour," which Timur Bekmambetov to produce with Tom Jacobson. Spaihts is writing "Children of Mars" for Disney and Scott Rudin, and he will follow by rewriting "St. George and the Dragon" for Sony and Red Wagon.

What a great opportunity to show us the missing alien life stage! We've seen alien babies and adults, but now with today's CGI, we'll be able to see the Alien as a teenager!

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Is he troubled and rambunctious like a young Kirk, or troubled and intense like a young Spock?

"What is the purpose of this?"
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who would play him

Andy Serkis probably

what an opportunity for the rourkester

some early footage from the reamake has leaked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkSLCqGsiw&feature=player_embedded

I can't watch the video at work to confirm whether that's a joke or not, but my understanding was that the latest news was that Ridley Scott was going to be directing an Alien prequel rather than producing a remake?

alien babies

http://images.elfwood.com/fanq/a/l/alainag3/alienbaaaaby.jpg

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http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1637638/story.jhtml

t isn't overstating things to say that Ridley Scott is among the greatest filmmakers of all time, and "Alien" is among the greatest films of all time. So how could anyone not be eager to learn every little detail about his prequel to the 1979 classic?

On Thursday (April 22), we caught up with the "Robin Hood" director to speak with him for next week's MTV Summer Movie Preview. And when he mentioned that he was feasting his eyes upon the latest "Untitled 'Alien' Prequel" script pages, we couldn't help but ask some questions.

What followed might be the most revealing interview Sir Ridley has given thus far on the top-secret project. Read on for exclusive details concerning the prequel's plot, creature design and the woman — not named Sigourney Weaver — who will soon be kicking alien ass:

MTV: We're very excited about your return to the "Aliens" world — what's going on with it at this point?

Ridley Scott: As we speak, I've got a pile of pages next to me; it's like the fourth draft. It's a work in progress, but we're not dreaming it up anymore. We know what the story is. We're now actually trying to improve the three acts and make the characters better, build it up to something [we can shoot]. It's a work in progress, but we're actually making the film. There's no question about it, we're going to make the film.

MTV: Awesome.

Scott: Now it's a matter of, how good can I get the screenplay in the next few weeks so I can get a good ballpark figure of what it will cost. I've already got people working graphically on designs for the various requirements of the film.

MTV: Since this is a prequel, will you need to make the ships more primitive-looking than in "Alien"?

Scott: It's set in 2085, about 30 years before Sigourney [Weaver's character Ellen Ripley]. It's fundamentally about going out to find out 'Who the hell was that Space Jockey?' The guy who was sitting in the chair in the alien vehicle — there was a giant fellow sitting in a seat on what looked to be either a piece of technology or an astronomer's chair. Remember that?

MTV: Of course.

Scott: And our man [Tom Skerritt as Captain Dallas] climbs up and says "There's been an explosion in his chest from the inside out — what was that?" I'm basically explaining who that Space Jockey — we call him the Space Jockey — I'm explaining who the space jockeys were.

MTV: And is the Weyland-Yutani company in existence at this point?

Scott: It's Weyland. Weyland hasn't joined Yutani yet, so they go and see Weyland. [The film] is about the discussion of terraforming — taking planets and planetoids and balls of earth and trying to terraform, seed them with the possibilities of future life.

MTV: We know how obsessive "Alien" fans can get. Are you going to make a film that doesn't require having seen any of the other movies?

Scott: Totally. Yes. [People will still get it], because there's a lot of copying, dude.

MTV: There's a lot of copying of your movies.

Scott: There's a lot of homage. Is that the polite word? Homage? I call it something else. [Laughs.]

MTV: Will Sigourney Weaver have any participation at all?

Scott: It will be before she was born!

MTV: So not even a voice-over, explaining things? Nothing?

Scott: Well, the main character [in the prequel] will be a woman, yeah. We're thinking it could go down that route, yeah. When I started the original "Alien," Ripley wasn't a woman, it was a guy. During casting, we thought, "Why don't we make it a woman?"

MTV: So will you be creating new aliens for your prequel?

Scott: What you have to do is — were there four or five "Alien" films? I can't remember how many followed.

MTV: There were three after you, then the "Alien vs. Predator" nonsense.

Scott: Yeah, the thing about "Alien vs. Predator" is, I know it's commerce, but what a pity. I think, therefore, I have to design — or redesign — earlier versions of what these elements are that led to the thing you finally see in "Alien," which is the thing that catapults out of the egg, the face-hugger.

MTV: OK.

Scott: I don't want to repeat it. The alien in a sense, as a shape, is worn out.

MTV: Will you consult the original alien designer, H.R. Giger, on these ideas?

Scott: Yeah, he's still around. Once I get more serious and get going, and the big wheels start turning, we'll certainly talk. And maybe we'll come up with something completely different.

MTV: In your mind, when do cameras begin rolling on the film?

Scott: We're hoping to have it in theaters in late 2011, or maybe the best date in 2012.

MTV: Have you given any thought on how you'll feel when you walk on set that first time, how you'll deal with the déjà vu from 1979?

Scott: Yeah, it'll be weird, because I always said I'll never do a sequel. [Laughs.]

MTV: What made you change your mind?

Scott: Honestly? They've squeezed the franchise dry. The first one will always be the most frightening, because the beast we put together with Giger and all its parts — the face-hugger, the chest-burster, the egg — they were all totally original, and that's hard to follow. ... I've always avoided sequels, unless I felt there was something fresh.

It isn't overstating things to say that Ridley Scott is among the greatest filmmakers of all time

noooo, not at all

and yes it's gonna be 3-D:

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/ridley-scott-talks-about-the-alien-prequels-and-shooting-in-3d

honestly don't know what to think

h8 3-d

stoked for the disappointing retconned madness

pred ship pred ship pred ship

and vikings

Ridley Scott migh't ve been on the way of becoming one of the greatest filmmakers of all time 25 years ago, but the kinda blew his chances, didn't he? What was his last great movie? Thelma & Louise?

Actually, Ridley Scott was kind of a predecessor to David Fincher: a couple of good movies and an undeniable technical talent made people think they were cinematic geniuses or something, but then they went and prove everyone wrong.

not really. i mean, the finch has only made seven films in 18 years, but the last but one was a masterpiece, his best yet. i liked "CCBB" too but i know most people don't.

scott was always more prolific, and also, while i like a lot of his films, i don't think there are many consistent themes running through his work. there definitely are in post-"seven" fincher.

Hmm, I hadn't thought about it like that. What do you think are the consistent themes in Fincher's movies, I haven't noticed.

If I were to choose betweem the two, I'd still choose Scott. Even though he's made a lot of crap compared to Fincher, no Fincher movie I've seen has been as perfect as Alien or Blade Runner. As interesting and ambitious as they are, there's always some flaw, something missing from them. I get the feeling that Fincher is technically gifted director who lives or dies by the scripts he's given - he doesn't write scripts, does he? (That's one reason why I compared him to Scott, who doesn't write his movies either.) I haven't seen Zodiac though, maybe I should watch it some day.

What do you think are the consistent themes in Fincher's movies, I haven't noticed.

can't really get into it -- i think i have elsewhere. it's a kind of buddhist thing tho, shit to do with control and chaos. "zodiac" makes it p clear though & u really shd watch it.

fincher (like most a-list directors) oversees the writing of his scripts -- doubt he does dialogue or whatever, but no, he doesn't just do what he's given.

it will be interesting to see how that works with his next one, however, which is written by aaron sorkin so unlikely to be s.thing he'd rewrite, i'd guess.

I can't wait to see what shade of washed-out green Fincher films his next movie in.

the alien-love inside me can't help but cheer that with ridley on this it will be pretty good. but on the other hand, all alien movies since 3 have been wank, so dunno what to think.

It isn't overstating things to say that Ridley Scott is among the greatest filmmakers of all time

shill needs shootin'

Scott's last great movie was "Thelma and Louise"???

I need to go check a list of movies before, and movies since, but I mean......

"Black Hawk Down" is pretty great, but yeah, had he done "Duelists" through "Blade Runner" and then retired, we wouldn't have missed much save "Thelma & Louise." I've always been impressed by Scott's prolific nature, though, esp. if you take into account his work as a producer. He and Spielberg just crank them out, though Spielberg returns to specific themes again and again whereas Ridley Scott is more scattershot. "Matchstick Men?" "A Good Year?" Hell, "American Gangster?" Not what one would consider "typical" Ridley Scott fare, though admittedly these days "typical" means guys in the woods shooting flaming arrows.

lotta ppl here ride for "kingdom of heaven"

im siked for "robin hood" too

HANNIBAL is v.underrated imho, a great black comedy

I forgot about Matchstick Men, that was pretty good movie. Not classic or anything (it pretty much followed the same pattern as most con man movies have done ever since House of Games, but totally enjoyable.

the finch has only made seven films in 18 years, but the last but one was a masterpiece, his best yet.

I have to assume that you, along with the rest of the population of Planet Earth, have chosen to forget that Benjamin Butthole ever happened.

no, i liked it.

but zodiac was his last but one.

mr. haircare tell me about this benjamin butthole picture you speak of

Yeah, wtf Fincher? "Zodiac" was a masterpiece, but I couldn't make it past 30 minutes of "Button." And now you've got a Facebook movie on its way? And a remake of the overseas adaptation of "Girl with a Dragon Tattoo?" Fincher, you can do better.

the facebook movie is gonna own hard

you have to be "in the right place" for CCBB

MTV: What made you change your mind?

Scott: Honestly? They've squeezed the franchise dry.

So what made him change his mind?

Alien father will be a CGI Billy Zane

So what made him change his mind?

I think he's implying something along the lines of "if they can't do anything more interesting with this series then maybe I, as its originator, can"

this movie is gonna be a viking

Alien prequels, that's where I'm a Space Jocket

Jockey

shit

pred ship pred ship pred ship

and vikings

― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:16 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i want to make a song out of this

http://www.avclub.com/articles/damon-lindelof-rewriting-alien-prequel-maybe,43608/

A little bit disappointing if true as I've read the first 30 pages of John Spaihts' script and if it actually got made it would cause fanboys worldwide to spontaneously combust with rage.

Hahah do tell.

Let's just say it's been nicknamed "Gaylien"

*spontaneously combusts with rage*

Roffle. That script must be filmed immediately.

It's pretty easily found with a quick google search.

this whole idea is confounding

Having found this script -- well, that's an intercut sex/death scene to rival the start of Excalibur, I suppose.

hoax

Has it been unequivocally debunked? I'm gonna pretend it's real anyway

"hard cock" in a screenplay? Spaceship Octavia? C'mon this is good ole fashioned fanfic

it's a hoax. but worth reading for lols.

INT. MEN'S QUARTERS - LOCKER AREA

Fins hands are tangled in Karik's hair.

KARIK
God! Damn it!

Fin picks himself up.

FIN
Christ!

Fin grabs his spade.
Karik assumes a low martial-arts stance and steps toward
the cat-alien.

The cat-alien and Karik pace around each other.

The cat-alien jabs at Karik with its sharp tail.

Karik parries the blow.

In a blur, the cat-alien jabs again.

And Karik parries.

The cat-alien makes a third jab with its tail and
immediately leaps at Karik, its jaws open.
Karik blocks the tail then catches the cat-alien's oblong
head with a roundhouse kick that knocks the cat-alien back
again.

Fin stands there, awestruck by what he sees, his grip on
the spade relaxing. He snaps out of it and looks furiously
for the net.

The cat-alien and Karik fight, Karik using lightening-fast
martial arts to defend himself.

Fin leans his spade against the wall, picks up the net, and
turns, shaking it open before him. Before he can throw it,
he groans in pain and looks down.

An ant-alien is biting his calf, just above his boot. Two
more are on the toe of the boot. His other foot knocks the
ant-aliens off.

clearly authentic

low martial arts stance

buffalo stance more effective against cat aliens imo

Just leave Alien well enough alone.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/chris-crocker-cries.jpg

apparently the alien prequel has morphed into an original sci-fi movie directed by ridley scott

http://www.slashfilm.com/ridley-scotts-alien-prequel-longer-alien-prequel-prometheus-starring-noomi-rapace/

that's actually kinda heartening, imo.

That's actually pretty great to hear.

interesting, is there anything known about this new flick?

Weird
Of interest, however, is that Prometheus may not be a total departure from the Alien series, as Sky Movies is reporting that the classic alien creatures actually play a major role in the film’s plot. A source close to them even went so far as to say that the film “definitely takes place in the same world as Alien.” How the two mix into each other remains to be seen.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/01/27/michael-fassbender-lands-high-profile-role-in-prometheus-but-is-it-actually-a-new-alien-movie-afterall/

eh, seems like typical rumor mill echo chamber bullshit

has already gone to my most anticipated movie of the next xx years (do i have low standards?)

i'm gonna guess it has to do with one alien race and the aliens from...alien... are all exiled or whatev after a big battle at the end of the movie, and their last surviving ship is the one that crashes on the planet seen in the original alien. it would be a prequel w/out not really being so - a prequel would have to retain certain characters or themes from the orig. alien series. i'll just toss out that i think ridley has the guts to craft a sci-fi that doesn't involve "man meets alien"

of course there was also rumor that the girl from the dragon tattoo series would play star role? ffs i hope they don't implement any alternate universes/time travel

It's not a rumor, she's been cast.

http://movies.sky.com/exclusive-prometheus-plot-reveal-aliens-are-in-it

It turns out that Ridley Scott's recent comments that Prometheus would be a departure from the Aliens series are somewhat misleading.

An exclusive source has told us that not only are HR Giger's classic aliens in it, but that they're integral to the plot.

Mere hours after the announcement that Michael Fassbender is locked in to play an android with rumoured links to Aliens' Bishop series, our insider sources have revealed that he's not the only one with strong links to the series' past.

Alien 27This is back too...."They’ve built the ‘space jockey’ cockpit at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien", they told us.

"Despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar HR Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently."

And as for Scott's comments noting that "keen fans will recognise strands of Alien's DNA"?

It turns out there was the slightest hint of misdirection - apparently the actual DNA of the xenomorphs is integral to the plot - and will see the cast jet off to the alien homeworld itself.

"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world. I’ve also heard Morocco is being used for alien planet landscapes so I’m not sure if it’s an archaeological dig on another planet," they revealed.

It gets weirder too, with Damon Lindelof's script set to crank up the sci-fi angle to maximum effect.

"The main spaceship in the film will be piloted by an enormous head which I assume will be CGI. Yep, sounds weird but I assume some of the technology will be sort of biomechanical."

O_o

there are so many rumors and conflicting info on this movie all over the internet right now it's kind of ridiculous

blahhh sounds like transformers 2

anyone got any clever ideas of food/drink for an alien viewing party?

the invitation should be something along the lines of "gut-busting good"

I dunno, squid is the closest thing to a facehugger i can think of

facehugger looks more like a crab. there's a method - i've never done it, but witnessed - where you boil a shelled fish to such intensity that it's shell dissolves right off it. it was actually my godfather who did it, when i was a kid, and involved some restaurant equipment. but anyways: crab/lobster solely in the flesh would def look pretty cool upon a mannequin lying around.

with Damon Lindelof's script

I had forgotten this part and now I have no interest in the movie at all.

Yeah I was going to say

"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world.

L O S T

please tell me the main alien is played by James Carville

(the rumours might be rubbish but) hate the way they try to drag earth into this shit - some of the best scifi involves getting away from the assumption that the universe revolves around our poky little planet. Original story of stumbling across alien horror light years from earth was brilliant, AvP sekret antarctic alien hunting ground pyramid was grade A bullshit.

yea i'm sure the Martians are ticked about the way we depict them generally

Prometheus plot influenced by Chariots of the Gods!

Scott acknowledged that Prometheus, while not a direct prequel to Alien, occupies the same general universe, saying the picture was inspired by a desire to explore the mystery of the "space jockey" the giant fossilized creature with the burst-open chest seen in the first Alien movie but never explained. "The (space) journey, metaphorically, is about a challenge to the gods," Scott said. But Scott's ambitions with Prometheus go far beyond simply restarting a hit franchise. The British director said the film's storyline, and script by David Lindelof, was partially inspired by the writings of legendary Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken.
Van Daniken, author of 1968 bestseller Chariot of the Gods, is best known as the first proponent of the so-called ancient astronaut theory, which holds that aliens kick-started civilization on earth. "NASA and the Vatican agree that is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way," Scott said. "That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric van Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about."
The Washington Reporter.

So was Alien vs Predator iirc...

Is there any sci-fi franchise involving aliens that isn't Von Daniken-influenced at this point? "Ancient astronauts" is a durable idea that's been around since Lovecraft, at the very least.

The real news with this is the confirmation that the movie takes place within the "alien" universe. When they announced the movie as "Prometheus" back in January the press release was worded to make it sound as if wasn't connected any longer to the series. But now it's apparent that it is a spinoff, if not exactly a direct prequel.

(the rumours might be rubbish but) hate the way they try to drag earth into this shit - some of the best scifi involves getting away from the assumption that the universe revolves around our poky little planet. Original story of stumbling across alien horror light years from earth was brilliant, AvP sekret antarctic alien hunting ground pyramid was grade A bullshit.

― nanoflymo (ledge), Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:09 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark

kinda agree w/this

Nah, they admitted it was in the Alien universe ages ago Latebloomer

"saying the picture was inspired by a desire to explore the mystery of the "space jockey" the giant fossilized creature with the burst-open chest seen in the first Alien movie but never explained"

=

"we realised the space jockey was the one last thing that hadn't been raped to death by the rest of the franchise, so we thought let's grab a piece of that action"

Nah, they admitted it was in the Alien universe ages ago Latebloomer

― Number None, Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

they didn't! i've been following this, dude.

fassbender basically confirmed it in an interview a few months ago, and there have been constant rumors but all the statements from the actual filmmakers have been pretty vague until recently.

"we realised the space jockey was the one last thing that hadn't been raped to death by the rest of the franchise, so we thought let's grab a piece of that action"

haha otm

Yeah i guess i just read the Fassbender thing and assumed it was out in the open

x-post

The cynicism is warranted (it's Hollywood), but I do admit that I'm excited that they're taking this in a different direction, and not just doing an "Alien 5". Of course, it could easily just end up being Mission to Mars with Giger-beasts, so my optimism is cautious at best.

"we realised the space jockey was the one last thing that hadn't been raped to death by the rest of the franchise, so we thought let's grab a piece of that action"

The space jockey was actually given a backstory in the original Dark Horse Aliens comic book, which was one of the first spin-offs of the movies (it was released after Aliens but before Alien 3, and thus features Hicks and the grown-up Newt as the main characters).

they made the space jockey look really dorky in that comic. they even gave him a cape! seriously!

yeah i had that comic too, always preferred the AVP story instead though (which was great)

NASA and the Vatican agree

reliable

embarrassingly, I'm horribly excited about all this. I know it's going to let me down so hard.

i think it's ok to be cautiously excited. it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi! but then again...it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi.

Having just rewatched Blade Runner for the first time in a while (and this time via my new BluRay/plasma TV setup) I hear you there.

i watched alien for the first time yesterday. i'd seen pretty much all of it, but never just sat down through it. the space jockey is probably the best part of the film, apart from ripley's tiny panties, and i really don't want its backstory to be explained :/

slanty knickers ftw!

Alien on blu-ray is transformed; so much more detail and colour. It might be the one blu-ray that has really wowed me. Blade Runner looks great too.

Prometheus plot spoilers, if true (and it doesn't sound that bad):
http://io9.com/5816884/if-this-is-actually-the-real-plot-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus-just-shoot-us-now

Reminds me of how the spaceship in Danny Boyle's Sunshine was called Icarus II (cos the first Icarus had already flown too close to the sun). It's like they want these missions to fail!

i think it's ok to be cautiously excited. it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi! but then again...it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi.

― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

el riddo hasn't made a decent movie in about three decades iirc, but t'll be good to have the pred ships controversy nailed once and for all

Matchstick Men was pretty decent, IMO.

story outline is promising, but there's no way to tell how it'll play out. have some (small) faith in ridley scott due to alien and blade runner, no matter how much he's done to tarnish that legacy since. at the very least this sounds like it will be a prestige picture with the budget to accomplish its ambitions, and for an original, galaxy-spanning sci-fi story, that's something to cheer about.

"it'll be good to have the pred ships controversy nailed once and for all"

I would think that this is the main, perhaps the only, reason that this film is being made

What does that sentence about pred ships mean?

you don't want to know, James

it's even worse than sleep vikings

well at least with the pred ship there really was only 'right' answer and the people on the other side were intentionally trolling the IGN board

Morrison: the Most hilarious fanboy message board debate of all time

the thin line between intentional trolling and shameless challoping

blimey--thanks!

"^ For your sake and the sake of the people you are exposed to every day, I hope that post was a joke, because if it wasn't, the astonishing ignorance of that post says something really scary about you.

And if it was a joke, it wasn't funny, not even accidentally. "

leaked set photos!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KqwUzzwhewE/ThNBGjt4g2I/AAAAAAAACD0/ImoLI-Lda6c/s1600/prometheus_set_1.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Bd3Ji_VSfE/ThNBFycNzJI/AAAAAAAACDw/jBCtDZeXzAM/s1600/prometheus_set_2.jpg

if you squint hard enough you can see the pred ship

man i bet they wish they hadn't torn all those sets down now

I wish I didn't see a Stargate in that first picture, but I kinda do

stargate & guillotine vagina combo standard

goatsegate

So wait, I'm confused. Is this movie about aliens?

Yes - but also about Predators, Things, The Lepus, and The Hair Bear Bunch

Some stuff, still pretty vague:

“I realized that there was something in the original ‘Alien’ that no one has asked a question about,” Scott said, explaining what sparked his interest in returning to the franchise. “And I thought, well that could be the centerpiece.”

But he didn’t say exactly what that question was (though he has in the past). Scott on Thursday said that “Prometheus” preserves the “original DNA” of “Alien” … “but we’ve gone in a completely different direction.” Based on a kind of sizzle reel the studio showed, “Prometheus” looks wholly of the “Alien” world, with its gooey, biomechanoid extraterrestrials, flame-thrower-wielding humans and a sinewy Rapace channeling series stalwart Sigourney Weaver.

Theron shared a bit of detail about her character in the film, Meredith Vickers. “She’s a suit, essentially,” Theron said. “She’s the machine that runs the machine that takes this mission into space. At first she comes across very cold and frigid. She’s not a scientist. She’s not a believer. She runs a tight ship. But you can tell that she’s gonna be a problem.”

Some more details:

We see Ridley on a new set, then images of a spaceship control room full of lit panels. A giant room that looks like the Giger-designed spaceship in the first ALIEN where they find the eggs, though it's filled with things that look more like Egyptian coptic jars – though they may still be eggs. It does seem like something bio-mechanical is inside.

We see Michael Fassbender examining them. Green-glass sleep pods. Bubble-helmets – the aesthetic is an odd mix of the original ALIEN H. R. Giger designs and pulp comic-book Buck Rogers-type stuff. Charlize Theron is doing push-ups naked. There's a large, ringed planet.

Scott is back on, says the cast of characters “find an establishment that is not what they expected it to be.” Somebody collapses, looks like internal injuries. People in space suits freak out. More of the Giant egg cargo hold. Scott says “It is all about everything...it has the DNA of the original ALIEN...what I wanna do is scare the living shit out of you.” It's being shot in digital 3-D.

Charlize Theron is doing push-ups naked

ok maybe i will watch this.

It's being shot in digital 3-D.

Fuck this noise.

scott says he's never shooting in 2d again

Yeah, I believe that. When are we going to start getting 3-D rom-coms from these absolutists?

I've now seen three or four films "shot in digital 3-D" in 2-D, and not once have I felt I missed anything. In fact, nor would have I ever known they were even shot in 3-D from the 2-D versions.

digital 3-D naked charlize theron pushups

we didn't start the fire

I approve Ridley Scott trying to scare me instead of put me to sleep as he has seemed so intent on doing of late.

Matchstick Men...in 3-D

hadn't this thread title been edited to point out that this is the 'Prometheus' thread earlier?

It had, but then it hiccuped or something. Let me try again.

http://collider.com/prometheus-interview-charlize-theron-damon-lindelof-comic-con/104250

Charlize, earlier you joked about doing nudity in the film.

THERON: I wasn’t joking, gosh! I’m an Academy Award winner. I’m serious.

LINDELOF: Why would we ever joke about something like that?

the comments section y'all the comments section!

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/07/21/prometheus-comiccon-alien-ridley-scot/

lol

“We begin at the beginning,” Lindelof said during a session with reporters before the film’s big Hall H panel presentation. “Ridley has been cryptically obtuse about everything, but there are some big ideas in Prometheus. It covers a vast expanse of time, past, present, and future.”

So it's now a remake of 2001?

yeah it's a crossover. original it was called HALiens

seriously though it sounds like Mission to Mars with Giger monsters more than anything

i hope it's better than Hannibal.

Hannibal was one of the least bad of his recent films

Still can't re-watch it due to a couple scenes making me want to vomit and have nightmares, though.

The Predators didnt create the aliens. The space jockey’s created the Aliens as a weapon or they were mearly collectors of them to use as a weapon. It’s conflicting in the literature. They would drop them onto a planet to wipe out indigenous life and would then come back to kill off all of the aliens using sonic weapons. That space jockey ship in Alien was one of their offensive drop ships. The Predators simply use the Aliens as a means to have something to hunt. They would drop a few eggs down, wait, then go hunt. An alien queen kill is I believe the greatest trophy in their culture.

http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale/NEW2001+/Predator/MMPredatorShipMISB1a.jpg

lol

Is that Boba Fett's ship?

looks like a fancy codpiece or a bicycle seat

boba fett's ship was basically a repainted streetlight
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/3082036822_d3f2d05222.jpg

http://io9.com/5826616/new-prometheus-images-provide-a-terrifying-reminder-of-the-original-alien/gallery/1

more here:

http://www.scriptflags.com/2011/08/prometheus-teaser-trailer-captured.html#more

nah, not an alien prequel in any way, no sir.

why do they hide these trailers when they've been shown in public? seems mad.

Since ilx has been down and shit, why not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_luIM6xaIck

I should know better, but this undeniably *looks* awesome, FUIUD.

best viewed in HD:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/

Pretty sure that removing the unheimlich mystery from the space jockey and the derelict can only be a bad thing but yeah I can't help but feel a little bit stoked either.

http://io9.com/5889058/ridley-scotts-amazing-prometheus-short-film-reveals-the-weyland-corps-shining-future

So excited for this.

Yeah, agreed -- I admit the trailer sold me.

Meantime, bring on the viral marketing:

https://www.weylandindustries.com/

guess AvsP isn't canon then

weyland-smithers corporation

kinda lolsy that it's pre-yutani.

lol I made the same goofy AvP canon comment to my friend

oh snap

"weyland-smithers corporation"

lol

if you'll indulge me, i'd like to nerd out just a little bit

WY logo from the first Alien:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BIazSOYb8mc/TloruFryDZI/AAAAAAAACKA/f4hLpTUvlPg/s1600/0008WeylandYutaniDecalsforALIENFX19.jpg

WY logo from the second and third Alienses:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/a/af/Weyland-yutani.JPG

logo from Prometheus

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/weylogofinal.jpg

...

maybe it's one of those magic eye things

oh, link's not showing up

http://gamingshogun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/weyland-industries-700x359.png

but yeah there's a magic eye thing going. it's a sailboat.

a biomechanical nightmare sailboat with vaginapenises

not really feeling this fake ted talk /picky

didn't watch it tbh. Not into that kind of viral marketing stuff

i dunno what guy pearce is doing, ted talks don't sound like the speeches from braveheart

I don't get the Guy Pearce thing, according to it the movie takes place in the 2020s? And we're supposed to have interstellar space travel and cyborgs by then? Is the movie set in some alternate Earth?

gonna be a hell of a next 10 years

Is the movie set in some alternate Earth?

No, it's a future documentary like all science fiction films

the speed of quibbling doubles every 18 months

http://usuarios.multimania.es/pendorio/Covers/Various%20Artists%20-%20Los%20Angeles,%20November%202019%20(2010%20Reissue)_Folder.jpg

Given the context of the fake page hosting it, I think the TED talk video is supposed to be around fifty years before the 'now' of Prometheus, so there you go.

need suggestions for autoreplacing every question mark Tuomas posts.

Yeah the TED talk is Weyland talking about THE FUTURE and in the actual film there's an android

Ah okay, so Pearce will be an android in the movie? Makes sense.

I just read the movie's synopsis on IMDb:

A team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a journey to the darkest corners of the universe.

Since the Aliens are bioweapons engineered by the Space Jockeys, the big reveal in this movie must be that humans were bioengineered by them as well, right? Hence the title "Prometheus" (and its allusion to Frankenstein and various other creating-life stories).

nah, Fassbender is the android, I think

ugh that would kind of suck, i always liked the idea of them just being random lifeforms we (and the space jockeys) were unlucky enough to come across

humanity must have been one of their failed early experiments

of course i'm stoked for this but i really fear it's gonna be the exact same prequel retconning i fucking hate

not really feeling this fake ted talk /picky

― goole, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:03 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah it was p lame and overdone

The fake TED talk makes Weyland look like a bombastic asshole. Seems about right.

guys what if the aliens were actually the crew of the prometheus that were mutated?!?

Everyone's an android /spoiler

xxxpost

WmC just replace "?" with "!!!"

That wouldn't reveal the origin of mankind though. Unless the aliens were sent back in time and became our ancestors.

I think replacing all your question marks with exclamation points would indeed reveal the origin of mankind, though.

we are all ~aliens~ if u think about it, from the right POV

"The fake TED talk makes Weyland look like a bombastic asshole."

in the trailer, on the TED screen there are livestreamed comments from the audience -- one of them is something to the effect of 'christ what an asshole'

from the right POV we are all backwards cowboy aliens

reverse cowgirl aliens

(sorry)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXLzJhZa8PY&

As long as there are aliens of some sort in this, I think we're all good.

Why do future space people name things after tragic figures? Like, why would you name a planet Pandora and expect anything good to come of it? Why would you name a ship Prometheus? That's like naming your ship Icarus, your spelunking party Orpheus, or your son Oedipus. In the future, have the endings of all these Greek myths been forgotten?

they named the ship Icarus in Sunshine. Actually even better, it's called Icarus II cos the first one disappeared on its mission to the Sun.

was that the space jockey?

indeed it was

so it WASN'T a pred ship

space jockeys:predators::OG Klingons:forehead ridge Klingons

I liked Icarus II better than the original.

yeahhh, why kid myself, i'm gonna go see this opening day

Why do future space people name things after tragic figures? Like, why would you name a planet Pandora and expect anything good to come of it? Why would you name a ship Prometheus? That's like naming your ship Icarus, your spelunking party Orpheus, or your son Oedipus. In the future, have the endings of all these Greek myths been forgotten?

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they named the ship Icarus in Sunshine. Actually even better, it's called Icarus II cos the first one disappeared on its mission to the Sun.

― Number None, Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this is all so otm

"i hereby unveil our advanced new interstellar ship... the Space Titanic!"

http://www.starshiptitanic.com/splash.jpg

http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/0/06/A_Flight_to_Remember.jpg/225px-A_Flight_to_Remember.jpg

Hahaha xp

Why do future space people name things after tragic figures? Like, why would you name a planet Pandora and expect anything good to come of it? Why would you name a ship Prometheus? That's like naming your ship Icarus, your spelunking party Orpheus, or your son Oedipus. In the future, have the endings of all these Greek myths been forgotten?

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's a tragic figure in that he meets a pretty awful end, but he's definitely a scientific hero.

of course i'm stoked for this but i really fear it's gonna be the exact same prequel retconning i fucking hate

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:40 (3 days ago) Permalink

yeah totally.

they have to come up with a really unique take to pull off what i think they're trying to do with this: mission to mars with monsters.

Mars Needs Monsters

that was the original title but they pulled a john carter

"ah fuck it, we'll make it into an Alien prequel"

Meantime a little more about Weyland Industries:

https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/timeline

space jockeys:predators::OG Klingons:forehead ridge Klingons

― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

speaking of redonkulous retcons/franchises filling in details that didn't need explicating, in Star Trek Enterprise they actually explained why the Kirk-era Klingons didn't have forehead ridges while the later ones did: A VIRUS!

New full trailer sometime tonight and a sneak's been seen:

http://io9.com/5894182/weve-seen-the-first-full-trailer-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU&feature=player_embedded

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ASt3JT_ppos/Tz7axtB4eEI/AAAAAAAAD6g/vyOpZBJFupk/s1600/1313834741941.png

ridley scott, today at wondercon panel

my nips are fucking hard!
xela1221 4 minutes ago 7

the opening of that looked just like the first Alien vs Predator movie

looks cool though

Erich von Daniken has a lot to answer for

holy shit the sound in that trailer!

& is that benedict wong? don't let him work out the calculations for the spaceship trajectory! he'll fuck it up!

This looks good! I will regret anticipating it tho I'm almost sure

Yeah I loved the screaming sound towards the end.

But can we be done with the Inception-ish low-horn blasts now, christ I'm so sick of hearing that in every actiony trailer.

Yeah I loved the screaming sound towards the end.

i know, what is it about that sound thats really appealing here? i'm slowly getting more excited than i should about this. damn trailers.

whoa ^_^

Okay, that was pretty damn good.

Yeah I loved the screaming sound towards the end.

i know, what is it about that sound thats really appealing here? i'm slowly getting more excited than i should about this. damn trailers.

― Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:27 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

thats the siren noise from the original Alien trailer (probably the greatest trailer ever cut)

feel like that trailer gave away TOO MUCH

Stringer Bell's accent sounds a little off. Or is it just me?

xpost H4A: ohhh fuck you genius thank you

Whomever is making these trailers deserves an award for making trailers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjLamj-b0I8

Trailys 2012

Goddamm that og trailer is so good

I'm gonna be so goddam sad when they stop using film to make movies

Does ALIEN have the greatest cast ever?

I was thinking that exact thing watching the trailer. If it's not the greatest it's damn close.

Does ALIEN have the greatest cast ever?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:11 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

feel like that trailer gave away TOO MUCH

― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:45 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

has there ever been a movie that was part of a franchise where the audience didn't know for sure until actually seeing the film?

The screaming alarm in that Prom. trailer reminds me of Clare Torry's screaming at the end of "Speak to Me", right before "Breathe" kicks in.

guys go to 2:37 in the trailer

1:37, sorry

http://i.imgur.com/UL3mC.jpg if you're lazy

While I'm still a bit meh re: 3D and wasn't planning on even checking out this silly prequel stuff (even though I've bought some kind of Alien quadrology box thig twice now, first as DVDs and later BluRay) I have to admit that trailer kinda - aw hell, yeah, I want to see it now.

thig->thing

at least the movie was shot in 3D, not post-converted, and what we've seen so far looks fantastic in 2D, so no one should complain about that aspect at least.

This and The Dark Knight Rises both coming out in 2012 will make the end of the world in December a little more bearable, I guess.

this was shot in 3d?

can i just watch it in 2d?

Of course. Has there been a 3D release that wasn't generally available in 2D also?

http://www.hd-3dmovie.com/images/imax-deep-sea-3d-movie.jpg

so tonight my friend told me that the yoga festival she's organizing starts on june 8 and i said "that's the day Prometheus comes out!!" [blank stare] "The new aliens movie!!"
she laughed
but i was serious

i <3 u rrrobyn

:)

wait so this is in 3D+IMAXZ too?! whoa

Yeah, I don't know what day of the week June 8 is, but I'll be pulling a sickie if it's a weekday

if only there was a way we could find out...

Re:3-D, while it's the last thing I want to see, 1) This is the first Ridley Scott joint in 3-D, and the man knows how to make a movie, 2) It's actually shot in 3-D, rather than retrofitted and 3) Scott is one of those rare directors so thrilled with the 3-D results that he's sworn (ha) never to make another 2-D movie.

Of course, the question should be, have you ever seen a 2-D version of a recent 3-D movie and wished it was in 3-D? I would answer no, and I've seen a bunch of them "flat," from Captain American and Harry Potter to recent Pixars. Not a one had me leaving the theatre wishing things were jumping at my face. A few that I saw in 3-D - Up, TS3, Hugo - might as well have been in 2-D, bar a scene or two. So who knows what Ridley has up his sleeves.

And then there's Avatar, which I could not have at through were it not in 3-D, which is its own sort of novelty category.

Yeah wow this is badass. Amazing trailer. Had no idea Charlize Theron was in this.

3D, who cares. I've never really had an unpleasant 3D experience with RealD, the worst that happened was that bits didn't look 3D enough. Which, hey, puts you back in the same spot you were already in.

thing is im not super convinced 'the man knows how to make a movie' anymore

otm : (

fucker better not George Lucas me.

space jockey all with a liberian accent

We're on an express elevator to hell...going down!
Yipppieeeeee!

trailer's neat, space jockey starts to chest burst @ 2:11. also looks like the aliens came from humans infected with a virus, which is an interesting wrinkle if that's where they went with it.

unfortunately it seems like the grubby "used future" set design got lost somewhere, this looks like it takes place 3000 years *after* the first alien.

I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, midi-chlorians.
It must be using them for blood.

thats a terrible wrinkle imho

c'mon man we've met the xenomorph and IT is US

MIND BLOWN

ok not really but w/e

so lame

Our people are dying, Burke. We must do something to stop the Aliens!
Hold on a second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.

Does ALIEN have the greatest cast ever?

I'll watch anything with either John Hurt or Ian Holm to this day, and Alien had both. Kinda the opposite of my reaction to Nick Cage or Sandra Bullock in the credits (which would make Welcome to Hollywood (2000) the worst cast ever, I suppose).

unfortunately it seems like the grubby "used future" set design got lost somewhere, this looks like it takes place 3000 years *after* the first alien.

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:56 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

heh this happened with the star wars prequels too

what happened was that 30 yrs passed between the first one and the prequel in real time and people invented computers :(

they still could have made a grubby looking movie for a lot of money with all those computahs

It's probably a fancier ship tbf

thing is im not super convinced 'the man knows how to make a movie' anymore

You know, I hadn't really considered it, but yeah, his last 20 years have been erratic as fuck. But then, half of his films in that span seemingly also star Russell Crowe (I forgot that Robin Hood movie existed!) so who knows.

Maybe the man has just been making the wrong movies?

s1ocki hates scifi and everything good, maybe has acid 4 blood

i don't think that's the Space Jockey's chest bursting either

feel like she's getting locked in for a space ride

getting out i would say

greatest cast ever = The Right Stuff. but Alien is close

sorry 2:12, def space jockey chest burst tho

it's really not

Either fake, or an early draft: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/leaked_script.txt

ok maybe not

xp

this movie is really a prequel to Tootsie

unfortunately it seems like the grubby "used future" set design got lost somewhere, this looks like it takes place 3000 years *after* the first alien.

This is a prequel, right? So the stuff had to be used first before it could acquire its 'used' look.

Plus, space work crews aren't going to need set fancy gadgets, just durable shit that works consistently! Alien still had a voice controlled computer and androids.

Yeah, but come on - the stuff in the preview doesn't just look fresh out of the box, it looks all slick and glowy and colorful...it's not just that Alien felt used, it also felt utilitarian. Yeah, okay, they were truckers, but even the space suits in this look a lot more stylized, not to mention their...light grenade? hologram flinging? whatever? thing. I'm still stoked about it but there's a weird mismatch in the look and feel, makes it seem like more a generic 21st century sci-fi movie. Pandorum or something.

s1ocki hates scifi and everything good, maybe has acid 4 blood

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

??

i love sci-fi and i PARTICULARLY love everything good

the red glowy orb was ott

Dudes who made the computer model in Cave of Forgotten Dreams are so jealous of that ott red glowy orb.

want a red orb, tbh

This is a prequel, so clearly the fancy technology is fresh out of the box. By the time we get to "Alien," the ships and equipment are all beat up and run down and dusty and stuff. No doubt this will be explained in great detail in this movie.

is thsi for sure a prequel at this poitn cuz i thought Ridley said nuh uh

wiki:
The plot follows the crew of the spaceship Prometheus in the year 2085, as they explore an advanced alien civilization in search of the origins of humanity.

Conceived as a prequel to Scott's 1979 science fiction horror film Alien, rewrites of Spaihts' script by Lindelof developed a separate story that precedes the events of Alien, but which is not directly connected to the films in the Alien franchise. According to Scott, though the film shares "strands of Alien's DNA, so to speak", and takes place in the same universe, Prometheus will explore its own mythology and ideas. Principal photography began in March 2011, with filming taking place in England, Iceland, and Spain. Prometheus is scheduled for release between May 30 and June 8, 2012 in various territories through 20th Century Fox.

they're just being coy

and 'prequel' is a tainted word at this point

"greatest cast ever = The Right Stuff. but Alien is close"

This is actually worthy of a poll, but IMO if the Right Stuff wins its just because of quantity over quality. I'd put Holm, Hurt, Stanton up with anyone in TRS.

that would be a good poll

alien would win on this board

Already got yr excuse ready. :)

you never know. ilx is challopsy enough to say Harry Dean Stanton is overrated & Barbara Hershey is the greatest of all time or something.

Barbara Hershey is pretty great.

Except in the Black Swan.

You guys have probably already discussed this, I missed this thread for some reason, but this site is pretty cool.

Except Especially in the Black Swan.

o this comes out on my birthday, guess i'll see it on my birthday

Started reading that "leaked script" and spotted something like 3 typos in the first 5-6 lines, including misspellings, homonyms, and just plain using the wrong word. Obviously bullshit.

You guys have probably already discussed this, I missed this thread for some reason, but this site is pretty cool.

― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:04 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does that site do something besides show that spinning gif?

Re: weylandcorp.com - whatever happened to the yutani bit? Or did I miss something?

(it links to a 2023 TED talk and there's a "register for more info" - those are the two parts that work on my android phone)

I don't have a spinning gif, android doesn't do animated gifs (at least, it doesn't on my phone)

Meantime another trailer with a different focus...

http://io9.com/5894326/uk-prometheus-digs-deeper-into-the-films-archaeological-mission

does that site do something besides show that spinning gif?

When I click on it, it spins for a bit then goes to a landing page that links to the TED talk and has other features that are "coming soon". I just like the design of the site and I'm a sucker for in-depth viral stuff like this, particularly for sci-fi films.

I think the spinning gif only pops up the first time you load the site, in the future it just takes you to the main screen.

well that... makes... sense....

I like that second trailer too!

who's that standing behind the S here? Must be pretty big, that space jockey was gigantic in Alien.

http://i.imgur.com/vXeOy.jpg

he's the dude that the virus infects to make into an alien

since all of the trailers seem to give away a lot of the plot I bet there's a big reveal that none of us are gonna be ready for

It was all a dream! The bad guys are the good guys! Aliens taste like chicken!

giant dude is the Space Jockey

http://i.imgur.com/euMfb.jpg

It isn't him unless that skeleton is a suit imo

http://i.imgur.com/WF14b.jpg

it'll be a biomechanical suit or whatever

and the comics ain't canon

I know I just wanted everybody to see how funny the jockey looks

yeah, that would be way better obviously

omg are those 3D goggles he's holding? mind boggles @ goggles

It's a suit for sure, probably a biomechanical interface to the ship. /nerd

guys

http://f.cl.ly/items/2w2q0f2r1q2s3K0a0e1n/prometheus_glowy_dude.jpg

This Peter Weyland timeline is pretty ridiculous, but explains the fake TED talk megalomania. He fixes global warming, creates terraforming, does stem cell research, and cures almost all cancers by age 25! Gets a Nobel prize at 26! Gives ridiculous TED talk and then creates super-amazing androids!

I kind of hope this is in line with the Alien films, because lol even though dude was a genius his company still merges with Yutani corp and in a few hundred years is bought by Wal-Mart.

Can't tell what that's supposed to be? They put in a green goblin for st. patrick's day? Xpost

It's the really tall dude activating something that has a green energy ball popping up. Really quick cut toward the end of the trailer.

Oh, missed this on the timeline:

After years of litigation, Weyland wins the David patent lawsuit against the Japanese start-up Yutani Corporation, effectively protecting the investments of both Weyland Industries and its shareholders.

Presumably the world of Prometheus is one where scientific progress makes a leap due to a shitload of funding and effort that reality lacks. Guessing Weyland is the front-runner, with some competitors?

i don't think that guy is necessarily really tall, we don't see where his feet are touching the ground or whether the floor slopes up near the walls

like his head seems to be about half the size of the space jockey's which proportionally matches this picture

Man, it's going to be a long two and a half months until this gets released. (and in about ten years I'll laugh about this post when the tread gets revived because the 4D UV-disc remaster is released)

i hope there will be a cloverfield-esque shitstorm of endless fake spoilers and arguments about clues in viral ads that are then completely irrelevant to the movie

we can only hope

that corporate timeline mentions a weyland "memorial library" but I think it's a red herring. if peter weyland is born in 1990, he could be mid-80s by the time of the movie. crepey pale-looking dude could be peter weyland

or more accurately, the stuff about "looking for a practical use for stasis" makes me think that dude is gonna go into stasis to skip ahead -- you know, the old "thaw me out when we can travel to other worlds" trick

can't believe weyland was born in the 90s i feel old

What worries me more is that the world of 2085 doesn't remember what happened in the 1979 Alien movie.

It doesn't segue into Alien but it leaves some of its own questions unanswered, leaving open the option of a sequel: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prometheus_(film)&mobileaction=view_normal_site#Sequel

Yay. Look, go to wikipedia, it's on the Prometheus page, section called sequel.

"if we’re fortunate enough to do a sequel to Prometheus, it will tangentialize even further away from the original Alien."

tangetialize, yall

Mmm. In Germany, the movie will be called "Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"
(that's "Dark Signs" or dark symbols)

What I want to know is if the space jockey ship in this is the derelict from Alien, or just another ship of the same type.

also looks like the aliens came from humans infected with a virus, which is an interesting wrinkle if that's where they went with it.

While I don't doubt there will be lots of retconned silliness in this flick, I'm pretty sure that the "aliens came from humans infected with a virus" scenario won't be part of that. For starters, this mural http://i.imgur.com/UL3mC.jpg seen at 1:37 in the trailer, pretty much makes it clear that the aliens have been around for a while before the events of the movie.

My guess is that the "space jockeys" are a race of bioengineers of some sort and the aliens are one of many bioweapons or creations of theirs (those little worm things in the trailer are probably another).

They made humans!!!

Or did they? Wait for Prometheus 2: The Reckoning in 2016!

what are we looking at in that photo latebloomer?

Prometheus 2: The Retconning

an alien, brah!

http://i.imgur.com/UL3mC.jpg

yuk. multiple trailers. showing way too much.

=failure

Failien

exactly

that photo makes me v excited

I realllllly hope I don't regret this anticipation

it's alien hunter in a christ pose?

or the underside of a facehugger?

the former

You changed you display name for a film? Pathetic.

losers

all your farts eat cock

HEY GUYS THIS IS JI

What worries me more is that the world of 2085 doesn't remember what happened in the 1979 Alien movie.

― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:11 (Yesterday)

this is called the prequel paradox

While I don't doubt there will be lots of retconned silliness in this flick, I'm pretty sure that the "aliens came from humans infected with a virus" scenario won't be part of that. For starters, this mural http://i.imgur.com/UL3mC.jpg seen at 1:37 in the trailer, pretty much makes it clear that the aliens have been around for a while before the events of the movie.

My guess is that the "space jockeys" are a race of bioengineers of some sort and the aliens are one of many bioweapons or creations of theirs (those little worm things in the trailer are probably another).

― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:50 PM (2 hours ago)

maybe that mural was a failed experiment and it took the ruthless spirit of humans for the space jockey bioengineers to finally perfect their killing machine!

space jockey just makes me think abt underpants

as you were, sorry

s1ocki hates scifi and everything good, maybe has acid 4 blood

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

??

i love sci-fi and i PARTICULARLY love everything good

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:35 PM (8 hours ago)

I notice you conveniently avoid any disavowal of acid blood

every time I read the title of this movie I keep thinking of that student film Jay Sherman made on The Critic

I notice you conveniently avoid any disavowal of acid blood

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:41 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont like to get into my personal life on ilx

Space S1ocki just makes me think about underpants

He's got the acid sperm too, probably. But he doesn't wanna talk about it.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X5tzVA8y7yM/T2dO0BEMi8I/AAAAAAAAALM/sdD8xof6ZVk/s1600/ilovealien.jpg

(be nice, mine)

Wish I could go to your life classes! Nice one.

was that alien's host jay leno

Next drawing shows him eating that new Doritos taco...

i am tempted to go home and sketch some life-drawing type figures lounging on Victorian sofas with alien heads.

noomi lookin excellent

The first viral puzzle was solved and revealed a big ass screenshot: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Viral-Reveals-Stunning-Image-29828.html

The second viral puzzle has revealed a login page but no password yet: http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/
245409 was a signal sent in July 2003 to star Gliese 208 (one of Orion's stars - signal is expected to reach the star in 2040): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call

<3 this useless geek stuff

hate it

:-)

there's also this: http://www.projectprometheus.com/eridu/

(Eridu was one of the first cities in humanity's history)

Rightly or wrongly I'm starting to think about the film as very much its own thing -- I really don't care if it does or doesn't sync up with Alien in all details, and I actually like the idea of it being a self-sufficient variation. (Of course having said that it'll turn out that it DOES fully sync up etc. etc.)

I'd also like to think that the comment upthread about the 'real' twists not even being hinted at at all in the trailers has relevance, if only because Scott and Lindelof by now are well aware of a hyperexpectant/detail-oriented fan culture now decades established and even more precise in the frame-by-frame years.

Anyway, we'll see. And I have no problem with weird viral scheming.

I'll cry a lot if it turns out to be a George Lucas thing where there is a lot of plot not hinted at in the trailer, and all of it is unwatchable boring garbage.

it turns out the space jockeys are interstellar tariff collectors

Fucking space economics how do they work

I should check but is the Walter Hill listed as a coproducer THE Walter Hill? Kinda random if so.

speaking of continuity, ownership, all that: does anyone know what scott thinks of cameron/aliens? or any of the stuff after? i wonder. if it's even knowable. or the writers?

(checks imdb) walter hill has been behind all of them, i see. and lindelof is a "lost" guy? and the other writer has a thin resume? this stuff is interesting, idk. about as interesting as "<3 this useless geek stuff"

xp heh

sorta surprised by how much people care about this...? Ridley Scott hasn't made a decent movie in eons, the odds that milking an already bled-dry franchise even further will somehow result in a decent film are really low

Here's Cameron

Ridley Scott is talking about doing an Alien prequel
That’s a strange move for him. I mean, Ridley and I talked over lunch maybe 10 years ago and I said, “Look, I’ll write it and produce it, you direct it, it’ll ****ing kick ass!” And he was like, “Yeah, let’s do it!” And nothing happened. And then they did Alien vs. Predator, and that kind of pissed in the soup. I think Ridley really should do science fiction. He made the two most iconic science-fiction films of the 20th century. When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”

lol

Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her:

http://cdn.chud.com/9/99/9936eaaa_prometheus1.jpeg

Yeah, all credit to Cameron, obv.

I'm probably one of the few people who liked his Robin Hood? It wasn't mind-blowing or anything, but IMO it was an interesting attempt to do a more "realistic" take on the RH mythos. Certainly better than Gladiator.

Most anything is better than Gladiator.

My god, these monsters are hideous when they're out of their suits: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m5f993.jpg

I dug Robin Hood for the same reasons, Tuomas

I liked Russell Crowe's Irish accent

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I0FEMKrTFjs/Tzu_dbTQocI/AAAAAAAARIY/Oo9EqKqnJxM/s1600/NorthFaceWillyWonka.jpg

the battle scene on the beach was pretty cool

Some of the preview designs look interesting, but at this point, I expect every genre film to be shit or massively disappointing, so I ain't got my hopes up.

That said, I'm trying to think of other iconic 20th C films that reach that level. 2001, maybe? Star Wars and the Matrix were both tarnished by later connected flicks.

Matrix tarnished by its makers imho

How so

Star Wars wasn't?

We should probably have a thread for the Wachowski's Cloud Atlas at some point. Gonna be hilarious

matrix is great. sequels are poop. wachowski's are just some people, iirc.

Come to think of it, I still have never seen Alien IV a second time. Kinda wanna watch Alien 3 to see how many UK character actors I recognize.

Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her

seriously look like some space cthulhus

When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”

Hahah. OTM. But I saw said wine flick on a flight (rather, I noted it was playing but didn't bother actually dealing with the audio) and it certainly looked appropriately gorgeous so hey.

Marion Cotillard looked appropriately gorgeous. Dunno about the movie

what the fuck does charlie chaplin have to do with north face, that's the dumbest meme i've ever seen

also ridley scott has made at least a few decent movies in the last eon: black hawk down, gladiator, american gangster, body of lies