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xpost - same thing.
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see post at the tippy-top o' the thread;-)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:27 (8 years ago) Permalink
I want to cry.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16328
In January we broke the news that Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios would be producing a reboot of Predator for 20th Century Fox. Our regular tipster was proven correct once again as the story was confirmed in April. Our tipster even scooped us on who would be penning the remake, now titled Predators.
So Mr. Anonymous is back again. And being that 20th Century Fox is remaking Predator, it doesn't surprise me at all that Fox is also going back to their catalog for a reboot of Ridley Scott's Alien.
What our tipster informed us is that - opposite the Predator situation - the plan is to stick with the original concept of only one alien on the ship.
Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and even Tony Scott are all on board to produce and have tapped Carl Rinsch to get beyond the camera and bring a new Ripley to the big screen.
Who is Carl Rinsch? I'm being told he's a commercial/music video director and does work for Scott Free Productions, who is also producing the remake.
In the original, the terror begins when the crew of a spaceship investigates a transmission from a desolate planet, and discovers a life form that is perfectly evolved to annihilate mankind. One by one, each crew member is slain until only Ripley is left, leading to an explosive conclusion that sets the stage for its stunning sequel, Aliens (my favorite film of all-time).
We'll keep you posted on any updates, but that's what we got for you this evening. Remember to take it as rumor until confirmed as many projects change through the course of development.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
look what you did
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
shia lebeouf will def be alien
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
I figured this would happen, being that after all the bad sequels and AVP flicks the only logical way to milk the series was to go back to square one. But it doesn't hurt any less.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
What is the purpose of this?
Predator, who cares. It was stupid to begin with and can probably only improve in Rodriguez's hands. But Alien was absolutely perfect as is. Waaaaaah!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
However, if Pat O'Brien is actually cast as the Alien this will become a must-see
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
robert rodriguez isn't 1/10th the director that mctiernan is
― blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
Alien 3D
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 17:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
Who won when Alien fought Predator?
― henry s, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
i hope this is like star trek, showing how the young version of the original alien learned how to become the alien he is today
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
also i hope it is set at alien academy
do you mean the lumen of a person's gut???
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
― s1ocki, Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
What's that company that makes knockoff movies to coincide with releases? I have this theory that the only way to stop this revival madness is to saturate the market with so many degraded versions that any public appetite for them would be obliterated. ALIEN FANFICTION TO THE RESCUE
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
x-post
It could be like a more tragic Top Gun, where a fresh young facehugger falls in love with his instructor, a human woman. She dies in an accident, but a hundred years later he meets her great-graddaughter in the events of the first Alien.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
that granddaughter? veronica cartright.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
Legally Blonde Alien, with Reese Witherspoon
When a blonde sorority queen alien is dumped by her boyfriend, she decides to follow him to his planet to get him back and, once there, learns she has more legal savvy than she ever imagined.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
Alien Brockovich, with Julia Roberts
An unemployed single alien mother becomes a legal assistant and almost single-handedly brings down a global power company accused of polluting a planet's water supply.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
Wasn't that the plot of Erin Brockovich?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's a tribute script.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
How's this for high-concept: A remake of Predator starring the Alien as Predator.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
re: alien brockovic -- I was making bad joke about Julia Roberts looking not quite human, having second mouth.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
Would pay to see Ordinary Aliens dir. by Redford.
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Chestburst On The 4th Of July
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
AVPVSW
Alien vs Predator vs Sand Worms (from Dune)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
all human roles portrayed by Tracy Morgan
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
the predalien, duh
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
i would like to see a movie about an alien-human war done in the style of the thin red line
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Why is it that every movie franchise is all about remakes and reboots these days? Doesn't anybody believe in sequels anymore? Personally, I would've wanted to know what happened after the ending of Alien 4, but apparently no one else cares.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
omg yes
that is an xpost
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
tho pop culture is so weird these days that if someone told me that terrence malick was making the next alien movie i would believe it. i don't know if anything in popcult has the power to surprise me anymore.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:48 (4 years ago) Permalink
will whoever the female lead in this remake wear as ridiculously small panties as Ripley in the remakes denouement?
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
are you asking me?
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't know anyone else on ILX we could ask!
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm asking the universe. plus slocki.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
slocki, sloggi - ok, makes sense.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
ok well... i might as well just tell you. the answer is yes!
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
terrence malick is directing the reboot of the first wives club franchise
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 28 May 2009 19:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
i believe it, thank you for telling me true new information
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
hollywood officially sucks from now on
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 28 May 2009 19:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh for fuck's sake. [Shoots self]
― James Morrison, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
im not even like a huge alien guy but this is about the most retarded shit ever.
on paper.
five years ago i'd have at least made an effort to say 'hey maybe it'll *exceed* the original'.
but it's a pretty basic story that can't be fucked with, and no-one would get sued if they made a different movie that involved an alien.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
(Not That) Alien
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
industry/business people, do you know if there's some legal reason like company's rights to the franchise expire if they don't keep churning out remakes? I remember there was some bogus fantastic 4 movie made for some weird business-related reason.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Trading Places with a Wall Street player and an Alien switching roles.
― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
Wall Street starring Alien in Gordon Gecko role (and one that pops out of Darryl Hannah at the end).
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
The fact that Rodriguez is going to remake Predator as Predators gave me major lols. A long running and rubbish joke I have with some friends is to question whether any sequel or remake will be called the name of the original film pluralised. If pluralisation doesn't work I ask if it will be the original title with "another" appended to the start and if that doesn't work I ask if it will be called the original with "again" at the end of it.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
So presumably the sequel to Predators will be Another Predators again: the virus takes Manhattan.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Home Alone where the McCauley Culkin role is actually a young alien who discovers its powers while fending off would-be robbers.
― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 29 May 2009 00:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
<3<3<3
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
my new desktop background
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:34 (Yesterday) Permalink
ha, yeah Roger Corman made that one! supposedly bootlegs of it were sold at comic conventions for years.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.teako170.com/ffmovie.html
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
That's insane. Has anyone here seen it?
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Friday, 29 May 2009 03:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
it can't be much worse than the one that actually came out
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 03:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think this is true, and comic book superheroes is a good example. The actual superhero comic books are protected by copyright laws, and at the moment it's still a couple of decades before even the oldest of them fall into public domain. (However, apparently works copyrighted in the US before 1964 had to have their copyright renewed during the 28th year of their copyright term, otherwise they fell into the public domain. This has happened with at least some comics, records, and movies.) The names of superheroes are trademarks though, and trademark law is quite different from copyright. In order for a company to have the rigth to exclusive use of a trademark, the trademark has to be in active use. If the trademark isn't in active use for a certain period of time (in the US this is 5 years), it is considered public domain, and someone else can then register it. This, I think, is the reason DC comics has continuosly kept churning out Wonder Woman comic books throughout the decades, even during times when Wonder Woman has been quite unpopular. They don't want loose the trademark "Wonder Woman", so they have to have it in active use even if it means putting out comics that don't sell much. I'm not totally sure about this, but I assume the names "Alien" and "Predator" are similarly trademarked, so the same would apply to them as to Wonder Woman. I think there's been longer than a 5 year gap between Alien and Predator movies, but the various Alien and Predator comic books, books, and toys must've kept the trademarks in active use.
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 May 2009 08:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
With 'Wonder Woman', too, I believe there was something in the creator (who was a bit of a mad genius)'s contract saying that if she didn't keep being published by DC Comics, the rights would revert to him and his family.
― James Morrison, Friday, 29 May 2009 11:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Are you sure about that? Because I can't imagine that back then, decades before the rise of creator-owned comics, any comic publisher would sign a contract like that. In those days pretty much every comic creator signed the copyright away to the company publishing the comic, which lead to cases like Siegel's and Shuster's famous 25-year legal battle to be recognized as the creators of Superman.
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 May 2009 11:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
Wonder Woman is weird, though, like it was created by someone who wrote child psychology books as their main line or something like that. I guess I could just look it up...
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 May 2009 12:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
Well, who knows about the rights, this is pretty interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 May 2009 12:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
An interesting case depicting the oddities of copyright and trademark law happened in the 1980s, when Malibu published two collections of old Mickey Mouse newspaper strips by Floyd Gottfredson. Apparently the strips themselves had fallen into public domain, probably because Disney hadn't bothered to renew their copyright in due time. However, Disney obviously still owns the trademark for Mickey Mouse, so Malibu couldn't use pictures of Mickey or even the name "Mickey Mouse" in the cover of the book. So they released those collections under the name "The Uncensored Mouse", with a totally black cover. Disney ended up suing them anyway. You can read more about the case here (scroll down a bit to get to the relevant part):
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/09/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-115/
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 May 2009 12:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.collider.com/2009/05/29/exclusive-tony-scott-confirms-carl-rinsch-is-directing-alien-and-its-a-prequel/
A few days ago, Bloody-Disgusting reported that 20th century Fox was going to remake “Alien” and director Carl Rinsch would be helming the movie. Immediately fandom exploded with venom. I think one of the main reasons is that the original is a classic, and 20th Century Fox hasn’t been making films of that caliber recently.
So at today’s junket for Tony Scott’s new film “The Taking of Pelham 123″, I went up Tony after the press conference ended to ask him what was up with the remake.
The big news is he confirmed Carl Rinsch would be directing it and that it’s a prequel to his brother Ridley’s classic!
What Tony told me is after the jump:
Collider: 20th Century Fox is talking about remaking or redoing the original Alien. What’s going on with that?
alien_xenomorph_02.jpgTony Scott: Yes, Carl Rinsch is going to do the prequel to Alien. He’s one of our directors at our company.
Collider: I’m going to be blunt about this. Fox has not been doing a great job recently with their movies. They haven’t been an artist friendly studio. Are you guys going to have some creative control and make this a kick-ass film?
Tony: Yes! But Fox is our home. They finace our production company.
Collider: And I’m very happy that you guys have the financing. But a lot of the films they’ve been doing at the studio level, they’ve been nickel and diming and not giving fandom what they want. So I guess my question for you is…are you a little nervous about reengaging the franchise or are you excited.
Tony: I’m excited cause Ridley created the original and Carl Rinsch is one of the family.
Collider: When do you envision this film getting in front of cameras?
Tony: Hopefully the end of the year.
Collider: Will it be a summer of 2011 movie?
Tony: Honestly, I don’t know.
While I wish I could give you more info, I only had moments to talk with him. Look for more “Alien” info as I get it.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Saturday, 30 May 2009 00:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
alien academy it is then
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Saturday, 30 May 2009 00:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118006722.html?categoryid=13&cs=1
'Alien' prequel takes offRidley Scott attached to return as directorBy MICHAEL FLEMING
Twentieth Century Fox is resuscitating its "Alien" franchise. The studio has hired Jon Spaihts to write a prequel that has Ridley Scott attached to return as director.
Spaihts got the job after pitching the studio and Scott Free, which will produce the film.
The film is set up to be a prequel to the groundbreaking 1979 film that Scott directed. It will precede that film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship returning to Earth is awakened and sent to respond to a distress signal from a nearby planetoid. The crew discovers too late that the signal generated by an empty ship was meant to warn them.
The deal gives Fox another chance to keep the "Alien" franchise alive. There were three sequels to Scott's original, but it is the first time the director has set his mind on directing one.
Spaihts has become a go-to-guy for space thrillers. After Keanu Reeves became attached to his Warner Bros. sci-fi script "Shadow 19," Reeves hired Spaihts to write the space journey epic "Passengers," which is berthed at Morgan Creek. That script got Spaihts the meeting with Fox and Scott Free, and he won the job with an "Alien" reboot take that the studio and Scott loved.
Fox has separately hired him to rewrite "The Darkest Hour," which Timur Bekmambetov to produce with Tom Jacobson. Spaihts is writing "Children of Mars" for Disney and Scott Rudin, and he will follow by rewriting "St. George and the Dragon" for Sony and Red Wagon.
― numxhuxks (latebloomer), Friday, 31 July 2009 06:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
What a great opportunity to show us the missing alien life stage! We've seen alien babies and adults, but now with today's CGI, we'll be able to see the Alien as a teenager!
― StanM, Friday, 31 July 2009 08:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
Is he troubled and rambunctious like a young Kirk, or troubled and intense like a young Spock?
― numxhuxks (latebloomer), Friday, 31 July 2009 08:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
"What is the purpose of this?"$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
who would play him
― dim sum dude (s1ocki), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
Andy Serkis probably
― Number None, Friday, 31 July 2009 13:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
what an opportunity for the rourkester
― unban dictionary (blueski), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
some early footage from the reamake has leaked:
― krampus activities (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
I can't watch the video at work to confirm whether that's a joke or not, but my understanding was that the latest news was that Ridley Scott was going to be directing an Alien prequel rather than producing a remake?
― Zoo Snickers (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
alien babies
― akira goldsman (s1ocki), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
<3
― krampus activities (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1637638/story.jhtml
t isn't overstating things to say that Ridley Scott is among the greatest filmmakers of all time, and "Alien" is among the greatest films of all time. So how could anyone not be eager to learn every little detail about his prequel to the 1979 classic?
On Thursday (April 22), we caught up with the "Robin Hood" director to speak with him for next week's MTV Summer Movie Preview. And when he mentioned that he was feasting his eyes upon the latest "Untitled 'Alien' Prequel" script pages, we couldn't help but ask some questions.
What followed might be the most revealing interview Sir Ridley has given thus far on the top-secret project. Read on for exclusive details concerning the prequel's plot, creature design and the woman — not named Sigourney Weaver — who will soon be kicking alien ass:
MTV: We're very excited about your return to the "Aliens" world — what's going on with it at this point?
Ridley Scott: As we speak, I've got a pile of pages next to me; it's like the fourth draft. It's a work in progress, but we're not dreaming it up anymore. We know what the story is. We're now actually trying to improve the three acts and make the characters better, build it up to something [we can shoot]. It's a work in progress, but we're actually making the film. There's no question about it, we're going to make the film.
MTV: Awesome.
Scott: Now it's a matter of, how good can I get the screenplay in the next few weeks so I can get a good ballpark figure of what it will cost. I've already got people working graphically on designs for the various requirements of the film.
MTV: Since this is a prequel, will you need to make the ships more primitive-looking than in "Alien"?
Scott: It's set in 2085, about 30 years before Sigourney [Weaver's character Ellen Ripley]. It's fundamentally about going out to find out 'Who the hell was that Space Jockey?' The guy who was sitting in the chair in the alien vehicle — there was a giant fellow sitting in a seat on what looked to be either a piece of technology or an astronomer's chair. Remember that?
MTV: Of course.
Scott: And our man [Tom Skerritt as Captain Dallas] climbs up and says "There's been an explosion in his chest from the inside out — what was that?" I'm basically explaining who that Space Jockey — we call him the Space Jockey — I'm explaining who the space jockeys were.
MTV: And is the Weyland-Yutani company in existence at this point?
Scott: It's Weyland. Weyland hasn't joined Yutani yet, so they go and see Weyland. [The film] is about the discussion of terraforming — taking planets and planetoids and balls of earth and trying to terraform, seed them with the possibilities of future life.
MTV: We know how obsessive "Alien" fans can get. Are you going to make a film that doesn't require having seen any of the other movies?
Scott: Totally. Yes. [People will still get it], because there's a lot of copying, dude.
MTV: There's a lot of copying of your movies.
Scott: There's a lot of homage. Is that the polite word? Homage? I call it something else. [Laughs.]
MTV: Will Sigourney Weaver have any participation at all?
Scott: It will be before she was born!
MTV: So not even a voice-over, explaining things? Nothing?
Scott: Well, the main character [in the prequel] will be a woman, yeah. We're thinking it could go down that route, yeah. When I started the original "Alien," Ripley wasn't a woman, it was a guy. During casting, we thought, "Why don't we make it a woman?"
MTV: So will you be creating new aliens for your prequel?
Scott: What you have to do is — were there four or five "Alien" films? I can't remember how many followed.
MTV: There were three after you, then the "Alien vs. Predator" nonsense.
Scott: Yeah, the thing about "Alien vs. Predator" is, I know it's commerce, but what a pity. I think, therefore, I have to design — or redesign — earlier versions of what these elements are that led to the thing you finally see in "Alien," which is the thing that catapults out of the egg, the face-hugger.
MTV: OK.
Scott: I don't want to repeat it. The alien in a sense, as a shape, is worn out.
MTV: Will you consult the original alien designer, H.R. Giger, on these ideas?
Scott: Yeah, he's still around. Once I get more serious and get going, and the big wheels start turning, we'll certainly talk. And maybe we'll come up with something completely different.
MTV: In your mind, when do cameras begin rolling on the film?
Scott: We're hoping to have it in theaters in late 2011, or maybe the best date in 2012.
MTV: Have you given any thought on how you'll feel when you walk on set that first time, how you'll deal with the déjà vu from 1979?
Scott: Yeah, it'll be weird, because I always said I'll never do a sequel. [Laughs.]
MTV: What made you change your mind?
Scott: Honestly? They've squeezed the franchise dry. The first one will always be the most frightening, because the beast we put together with Giger and all its parts — the face-hugger, the chest-burster, the egg — they were all totally original, and that's hard to follow. ... I've always avoided sequels, unless I felt there was something fresh.
― excitation needed (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 April 2010 08:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
It isn't overstating things to say that Ridley Scott is among the greatest filmmakers of all time
noooo, not at all
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 08:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
and yes it's gonna be 3-D:
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/ridley-scott-talks-about-the-alien-prequels-and-shooting-in-3d
― excitation needed (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 April 2010 08:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
honestly don't know what to think
― excitation needed (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 April 2010 09:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
h8 3-d
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 09:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
stoked for the disappointing retconned madness
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
pred ship pred ship pred ship
and vikings
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ridley Scott migh't ve been on the way of becoming one of the greatest filmmakers of all time 25 years ago, but the kinda blew his chances, didn't he? What was his last great movie? Thelma & Louise?
Actually, Ridley Scott was kind of a predecessor to David Fincher: a couple of good movies and an undeniable technical talent made people think they were cinematic geniuses or something, but then they went and prove everyone wrong.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
not really. i mean, the finch has only made seven films in 18 years, but the last but one was a masterpiece, his best yet. i liked "CCBB" too but i know most people don't.
scott was always more prolific, and also, while i like a lot of his films, i don't think there are many consistent themes running through his work. there definitely are in post-"seven" fincher.
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hmm, I hadn't thought about it like that. What do you think are the consistent themes in Fincher's movies, I haven't noticed.
If I were to choose betweem the two, I'd still choose Scott. Even though he's made a lot of crap compared to Fincher, no Fincher movie I've seen has been as perfect as Alien or Blade Runner. As interesting and ambitious as they are, there's always some flaw, something missing from them. I get the feeling that Fincher is technically gifted director who lives or dies by the scripts he's given - he doesn't write scripts, does he? (That's one reason why I compared him to Scott, who doesn't write his movies either.) I haven't seen Zodiac though, maybe I should watch it some day.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
What do you think are the consistent themes in Fincher's movies, I haven't noticed.
can't really get into it -- i think i have elsewhere. it's a kind of buddhist thing tho, shit to do with control and chaos. "zodiac" makes it p clear though & u really shd watch it.
fincher (like most a-list directors) oversees the writing of his scripts -- doubt he does dialogue or whatever, but no, he doesn't just do what he's given.
it will be interesting to see how that works with his next one, however, which is written by aaron sorkin so unlikely to be s.thing he'd rewrite, i'd guess.
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
I can't wait to see what shade of washed-out green Fincher films his next movie in.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
the alien-love inside me can't help but cheer that with ridley on this it will be pretty good. but on the other hand, all alien movies since 3 have been wank, so dunno what to think.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
shill needs shootin'
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 April 2010 11:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
Scott's last great movie was "Thelma and Louise"???
I need to go check a list of movies before, and movies since, but I mean......
― just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 April 2010 12:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
"Black Hawk Down" is pretty great, but yeah, had he done "Duelists" through "Blade Runner" and then retired, we wouldn't have missed much save "Thelma & Louise." I've always been impressed by Scott's prolific nature, though, esp. if you take into account his work as a producer. He and Spielberg just crank them out, though Spielberg returns to specific themes again and again whereas Ridley Scott is more scattershot. "Matchstick Men?" "A Good Year?" Hell, "American Gangster?" Not what one would consider "typical" Ridley Scott fare, though admittedly these days "typical" means guys in the woods shooting flaming arrows.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2010 12:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
lotta ppl here ride for "kingdom of heaven"
im siked for "robin hood" too
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 12:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
HANNIBAL is v.underrated imho, a great black comedy
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 April 2010 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
I forgot about Matchstick Men, that was pretty good movie. Not classic or anything (it pretty much followed the same pattern as most con man movies have done ever since House of Games, but totally enjoyable.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 April 2010 13:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
the finch has only made seven films in 18 years, but the last but one was a masterpiece, his best yet.
I have to assume that you, along with the rest of the population of Planet Earth, have chosen to forget that Benjamin Butthole ever happened.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
no, i liked it.
but zodiac was his last but one.
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
mr. haircare tell me about this benjamin butthole picture you speak of
― excitation needed (latebloomer), Friday, 30 April 2010 02:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, wtf Fincher? "Zodiac" was a masterpiece, but I couldn't make it past 30 minutes of "Button." And now you've got a Facebook movie on its way? And a remake of the overseas adaptation of "Girl with a Dragon Tattoo?" Fincher, you can do better.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 April 2010 02:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
the facebook movie is gonna own hard
you have to be "in the right place" for CCBB
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Friday, 30 April 2010 07:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
MTV: What made you change your mind?Scott: Honestly? They've squeezed the franchise dry.
Scott: Honestly? They've squeezed the franchise dry.
So what made him change his mind?
― broad layering (onimo), Friday, 30 April 2010 08:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
Alien father will be a CGI Billy Zane
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Friday, 30 April 2010 09:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think he's implying something along the lines of "if they can't do anything more interesting with this series then maybe I, as its originator, can"
― excitation needed (latebloomer), Friday, 30 April 2010 14:50 (3 years ago) Permalink
this movie is gonna be a viking
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 April 2010 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
Alien prequels, that's where I'm a Space Jocket
― mierda defensa ... no impedir ... espectador (onimo), Friday, 30 April 2010 15:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jockey
shit
― one of your top-tier posters! (history mayne), Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:16 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
i want to make a song out of this
― excitation needed (latebloomer), Friday, 30 April 2010 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.avclub.com/articles/damon-lindelof-rewriting-alien-prequel-maybe,43608/
A little bit disappointing if true as I've read the first 30 pages of John Spaihts' script and if it actually got made it would cause fanboys worldwide to spontaneously combust with rage.
― Number None, Friday, 30 July 2010 12:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hahah do tell.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 July 2010 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
Let's just say it's been nicknamed "Gaylien"
― Number None, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
*spontaneously combusts with rage*
― F-Unit (Ste), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
Roffle. That script must be filmed immediately.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's pretty easily found with a quick google search.
― Number None, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
this whole idea is confounding
― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
Having found this script -- well, that's an intercut sex/death scene to rival the start of Excalibur, I suppose.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
hoax
― David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Friday, 30 July 2010 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Has it been unequivocally debunked? I'm gonna pretend it's real anyway
― Number None, Friday, 30 July 2010 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
"hard cock" in a screenplay? Spaceship Octavia? C'mon this is good ole fashioned fanfic
― David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's a hoax. but worth reading for lols.
― 3-D MUTANT PENGUIN TITS! (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2010 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
INT. MEN'S QUARTERS - LOCKER AREA
Fins hands are tangled in Karik's hair.
KARIKGod! Damn it!
― 3-D MUTANT PENGUIN TITS! (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2010 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
Fin picks himself up.
FINChrist!
Fin grabs his spade.Karik assumes a low martial-arts stance and steps towardthe cat-alien.
The cat-alien and Karik pace around each other.
The cat-alien jabs at Karik with its sharp tail.
Karik parries the blow.
In a blur, the cat-alien jabs again.
And Karik parries.
The cat-alien makes a third jab with its tail andimmediately leaps at Karik, its jaws open.Karik blocks the tail then catches the cat-alien's oblonghead with a roundhouse kick that knocks the cat-alien backagain.
Fin stands there, awestruck by what he sees, his grip onthe spade relaxing. He snaps out of it and looks furiouslyfor the net.
The cat-alien and Karik fight, Karik using lightening-fastmartial arts to defend himself.
Fin leans his spade against the wall, picks up the net, andturns, shaking it open before him. Before he can throw it,he groans in pain and looks down.
An ant-alien is biting his calf, just above his boot. Twomore are on the toe of the boot. His other foot knocks theant-aliens off.
― 3-D MUTANT PENGUIN TITS! (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
clearly authentic
― 3-D MUTANT PENGUIN TITS! (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2010 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
low martial arts stance
― (e_3) (Edward III), Friday, 30 July 2010 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
buffalo stance more effective against cat aliens imo
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
Just leave Alien well enough alone.
― The Startrekman, Sunday, 1 August 2010 07:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
― 3-D MUTANT PENGUIN TITS! (latebloomer), Sunday, 1 August 2010 07:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
apparently the alien prequel has morphed into an original sci-fi movie directed by ridley scott
http://www.slashfilm.com/ridley-scotts-alien-prequel-longer-alien-prequel-prometheus-starring-noomi-rapace/
that's actually kinda heartening, imo.
― Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 January 2011 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
That's actually pretty great to hear.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 January 2011 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
interesting, is there anything known about this new flick?
― F-Unit (Ste), Saturday, 15 January 2011 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
WeirdOf interest, however, is that Prometheus may not be a total departure from the Alien series, as Sky Movies is reporting that the classic alien creatures actually play a major role in the film’s plot. A source close to them even went so far as to say that the film “definitely takes place in the same world as Alien.” How the two mix into each other remains to be seen.http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/01/27/michael-fassbender-lands-high-profile-role-in-prometheus-but-is-it-actually-a-new-alien-movie-afterall/
― Number None, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
eh, seems like typical rumor mill echo chamber bullshit
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
has already gone to my most anticipated movie of the next xx years (do i have low standards?)
i'm gonna guess it has to do with one alien race and the aliens from...alien... are all exiled or whatev after a big battle at the end of the movie, and their last surviving ship is the one that crashes on the planet seen in the original alien. it would be a prequel w/out not really being so - a prequel would have to retain certain characters or themes from the orig. alien series. i'll just toss out that i think ridley has the guts to craft a sci-fi that doesn't involve "man meets alien"
of course there was also rumor that the girl from the dragon tattoo series would play star role? ffs i hope they don't implement any alternate universes/time travel
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's not a rumor, she's been cast.
http://movies.sky.com/exclusive-prometheus-plot-reveal-aliens-are-in-it
It turns out that Ridley Scott's recent comments that Prometheus would be a departure from the Aliens series are somewhat misleading.
An exclusive source has told us that not only are HR Giger's classic aliens in it, but that they're integral to the plot.
Mere hours after the announcement that Michael Fassbender is locked in to play an android with rumoured links to Aliens' Bishop series, our insider sources have revealed that he's not the only one with strong links to the series' past.
Alien 27This is back too...."They’ve built the ‘space jockey’ cockpit at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien", they told us. "Despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar HR Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently."
And as for Scott's comments noting that "keen fans will recognise strands of Alien's DNA"?
It turns out there was the slightest hint of misdirection - apparently the actual DNA of the xenomorphs is integral to the plot - and will see the cast jet off to the alien homeworld itself.
"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world. I’ve also heard Morocco is being used for alien planet landscapes so I’m not sure if it’s an archaeological dig on another planet," they revealed.
It gets weirder too, with Damon Lindelof's script set to crank up the sci-fi angle to maximum effect. "The main spaceship in the film will be piloted by an enormous head which I assume will be CGI. Yep, sounds weird but I assume some of the technology will be sort of biomechanical."
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
O_o
there are so many rumors and conflicting info on this movie all over the internet right now it's kind of ridiculous
― H.R. Gigerstuf (latebloomer), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
blahhh sounds like transformers 2
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Saturday, 29 January 2011 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
anyone got any clever ideas of food/drink for an alien viewing party?
― bnw, Saturday, 29 January 2011 00:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
the invitation should be something along the lines of "gut-busting good"
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Saturday, 29 January 2011 00:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
I dunno, squid is the closest thing to a facehugger i can think of
― Number None, Saturday, 29 January 2011 00:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
facehugger looks more like a crab. there's a method - i've never done it, but witnessed - where you boil a shelled fish to such intensity that it's shell dissolves right off it. it was actually my godfather who did it, when i was a kid, and involved some restaurant equipment. but anyways: crab/lobster solely in the flesh would def look pretty cool upon a mannequin lying around.
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Saturday, 29 January 2011 01:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
with Damon Lindelof's script
I had forgotten this part and now I have no interest in the movie at all.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 January 2011 01:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah I was going to say
"Part of the film will be shot in Morocco. I’ve heard that some sort of archaeological dig where they discover alien DNA takes place there and that DNA gives them the coordinates for an alien world.
L O S T
― Slade Venom Secret Police (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 29 January 2011 10:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
please tell me the main alien is played by James Carville
― eep opp ork ah ah...and that means suck my dick (San Te), Saturday, 29 January 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
(the rumours might be rubbish but) hate the way they try to drag earth into this shit - some of the best scifi involves getting away from the assumption that the universe revolves around our poky little planet. Original story of stumbling across alien horror light years from earth was brilliant, AvP sekret antarctic alien hunting ground pyramid was grade A bullshit.
― nanoflymo (ledge), Saturday, 29 January 2011 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
yea i'm sure the Martians are ticked about the way we depict them generally
― mustache ride like the wind (San Te), Saturday, 29 January 2011 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
Prometheus plot influenced by Chariots of the Gods!
Scott acknowledged that Prometheus, while not a direct prequel to Alien, occupies the same general universe, saying the picture was inspired by a desire to explore the mystery of the "space jockey" the giant fossilized creature with the burst-open chest seen in the first Alien movie but never explained. "The (space) journey, metaphorically, is about a challenge to the gods," Scott said. But Scott's ambitions with Prometheus go far beyond simply restarting a hit franchise. The British director said the film's storyline, and script by David Lindelof, was partially inspired by the writings of legendary Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken.Van Daniken, author of 1968 bestseller Chariot of the Gods, is best known as the first proponent of the so-called ancient astronaut theory, which holds that aliens kick-started civilization on earth. "NASA and the Vatican agree that is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way," Scott said. "That's what we're looking at (in the film), at some of Eric van Daniken's ideas of how did we humans come about."The Washington Reporter.
― Keep shouting sir, we'll find you (DavidM), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
So was Alien vs Predator iirc...
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is there any sci-fi franchise involving aliens that isn't Von Daniken-influenced at this point? "Ancient astronauts" is a durable idea that's been around since Lovecraft, at the very least.
The real news with this is the confirmation that the movie takes place within the "alien" universe. When they announced the movie as "Prometheus" back in January the press release was worded to make it sound as if wasn't connected any longer to the series. But now it's apparent that it is a spinoff, if not exactly a direct prequel.
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
― nanoflymo (ledge), Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:09 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark
kinda agree w/this
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Nah, they admitted it was in the Alien universe ages ago Latebloomer
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
"saying the picture was inspired by a desire to explore the mystery of the "space jockey" the giant fossilized creature with the burst-open chest seen in the first Alien movie but never explained"
=
"we realised the space jockey was the one last thing that hadn't been raped to death by the rest of the franchise, so we thought let's grab a piece of that action"
― Ste, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Number None, Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
they didn't! i've been following this, dude.
fassbender basically confirmed it in an interview a few months ago, and there have been constant rumors but all the statements from the actual filmmakers have been pretty vague until recently.
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha otm
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah i guess i just read the Fassbender thing and assumed it was out in the open
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
The cynicism is warranted (it's Hollywood), but I do admit that I'm excited that they're taking this in a different direction, and not just doing an "Alien 5". Of course, it could easily just end up being Mission to Mars with Giger-beasts, so my optimism is cautious at best.
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
The space jockey was actually given a backstory in the original Dark Horse Aliens comic book, which was one of the first spin-offs of the movies (it was released after Aliens but before Alien 3, and thus features Hicks and the grown-up Newt as the main characters).
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
they made the space jockey look really dorky in that comic. they even gave him a cape! seriously!
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i had that comic too, always preferred the AVP story instead though (which was great)
― Ste, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
NASA and the Vatican agree
reliable
― owenf, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
embarrassingly, I'm horribly excited about all this. I know it's going to let me down so hard.
i think it's ok to be cautiously excited. it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi! but then again...it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi.
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Having just rewatched Blade Runner for the first time in a while (and this time via my new BluRay/plasma TV setup) I hear you there.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
i watched alien for the first time yesterday. i'd seen pretty much all of it, but never just sat down through it. the space jockey is probably the best part of the film, apart from ripley's tiny panties, and i really don't want its backstory to be explained :/
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
slanty knickers ftw!
― Ste, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien on blu-ray is transformed; so much more detail and colour. It might be the one blu-ray that has really wowed me. Blade Runner looks great too.
Prometheus plot spoilers, if true (and it doesn't sound that bad): http://io9.com/5816884/if-this-is-actually-the-real-plot-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus-just-shoot-us-now
― Keep shouting sir, we'll find you (DavidM), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Reminds me of how the spaceship in Danny Boyle's Sunshine was called Icarus II (cos the first Icarus had already flown too close to the sun). It's like they want these missions to fail!
― Number None, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think it's ok to be cautiously excited. it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi! but then again...it's ridley scott returning to sci-fi.― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― this guy is straight solondz (latebloomer), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
el riddo hasn't made a decent movie in about three decades iirc, but t'll be good to have the pred ships controversy nailed once and for all
― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Matchstick Men was pretty decent, IMO.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
story outline is promising, but there's no way to tell how it'll play out. have some (small) faith in ridley scott due to alien and blade runner, no matter how much he's done to tarnish that legacy since. at the very least this sounds like it will be a prestige picture with the budget to accomplish its ambitions, and for an original, galaxy-spanning sci-fi story, that's something to cheer about.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
"it'll be good to have the pred ships controversy nailed once and for all"
I would think that this is the main, perhaps the only, reason that this film is being made
― Neil Willett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
What does that sentence about pred ships mean?
― I knew that the Russian people mercilessly ograblyali ograblyay (James Morrison), Friday, 1 July 2011 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
you don't want to know, James
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 July 2011 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's even worse than sleep vikings
well at least with the pred ship there really was only 'right' answer and the people on the other side were intentionally trolling the IGN board
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 July 2011 00:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Morrison: the Most hilarious fanboy message board debate of all time
― john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 July 2011 00:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
the thin line between intentional trolling and shameless challoping
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 July 2011 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
blimey--thanks!
― I knew that the Russian people mercilessly ograblyali ograblyay (James Morrison), Friday, 1 July 2011 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
"^ For your sake and the sake of the people you are exposed to every day, I hope that post was a joke, because if it wasn't, the astonishing ignorance of that post says something really scary about you.
And if it was a joke, it wasn't funny, not even accidentally. "
― skinny arbuckle (latebloomer), Friday, 1 July 2011 03:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
leaked set photos!
― skinny arbuckle (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 July 2011 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
if you squint hard enough you can see the pred ship
― skinny arbuckle (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 July 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
man i bet they wish they hadn't torn all those sets down now
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 7 July 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wish I didn't see a Stargate in that first picture, but I kinda do
― StanM, Thursday, 7 July 2011 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
stargate & guillotine vagina combo standard
― also we’re divorced now and i hate this movie. (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
goatsegate
― Ktulu says, I've come to hate my body (wk), Thursday, 7 July 2011 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
So wait, I'm confused. Is this movie about aliens?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 July 2011 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yes - but also about Predators, Things, The Lepus, and The Hair Bear Bunch
― Neil Willett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Some stuff, still pretty vague:
“I realized that there was something in the original ‘Alien’ that no one has asked a question about,” Scott said, explaining what sparked his interest in returning to the franchise. “And I thought, well that could be the centerpiece.”But he didn’t say exactly what that question was (though he has in the past). Scott on Thursday said that “Prometheus” preserves the “original DNA” of “Alien” … “but we’ve gone in a completely different direction.” Based on a kind of sizzle reel the studio showed, “Prometheus” looks wholly of the “Alien” world, with its gooey, biomechanoid extraterrestrials, flame-thrower-wielding humans and a sinewy Rapace channeling series stalwart Sigourney Weaver.Theron shared a bit of detail about her character in the film, Meredith Vickers. “She’s a suit, essentially,” Theron said. “She’s the machine that runs the machine that takes this mission into space. At first she comes across very cold and frigid. She’s not a scientist. She’s not a believer. She runs a tight ship. But you can tell that she’s gonna be a problem.”
But he didn’t say exactly what that question was (though he has in the past). Scott on Thursday said that “Prometheus” preserves the “original DNA” of “Alien” … “but we’ve gone in a completely different direction.” Based on a kind of sizzle reel the studio showed, “Prometheus” looks wholly of the “Alien” world, with its gooey, biomechanoid extraterrestrials, flame-thrower-wielding humans and a sinewy Rapace channeling series stalwart Sigourney Weaver.
Theron shared a bit of detail about her character in the film, Meredith Vickers. “She’s a suit, essentially,” Theron said. “She’s the machine that runs the machine that takes this mission into space. At first she comes across very cold and frigid. She’s not a scientist. She’s not a believer. She runs a tight ship. But you can tell that she’s gonna be a problem.”
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Some more details:
We see Ridley on a new set, then images of a spaceship control room full of lit panels. A giant room that looks like the Giger-designed spaceship in the first ALIEN where they find the eggs, though it's filled with things that look more like Egyptian coptic jars – though they may still be eggs. It does seem like something bio-mechanical is inside.We see Michael Fassbender examining them. Green-glass sleep pods. Bubble-helmets – the aesthetic is an odd mix of the original ALIEN H. R. Giger designs and pulp comic-book Buck Rogers-type stuff. Charlize Theron is doing push-ups naked. There's a large, ringed planet.Scott is back on, says the cast of characters “find an establishment that is not what they expected it to be.” Somebody collapses, looks like internal injuries. People in space suits freak out. More of the Giant egg cargo hold. Scott says “It is all about everything...it has the DNA of the original ALIEN...what I wanna do is scare the living shit out of you.” It's being shot in digital 3-D.
We see Michael Fassbender examining them. Green-glass sleep pods. Bubble-helmets – the aesthetic is an odd mix of the original ALIEN H. R. Giger designs and pulp comic-book Buck Rogers-type stuff. Charlize Theron is doing push-ups naked. There's a large, ringed planet.
Scott is back on, says the cast of characters “find an establishment that is not what they expected it to be.” Somebody collapses, looks like internal injuries. People in space suits freak out. More of the Giant egg cargo hold. Scott says “It is all about everything...it has the DNA of the original ALIEN...what I wanna do is scare the living shit out of you.” It's being shot in digital 3-D.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Charlize Theron is doing push-ups naked
ok maybe i will watch this.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's being shot in digital 3-D.
Fuck this noise.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2011 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
scott says he's never shooting in 2d again
― ＤＥＨＵＭＡＮＩＺＥ ＹＯＵＲＳＥＬＦ ＡＮＤ ＦＡＣＥ ＴＯ ＢＬＯＯＤＳＨＥＤ (Princess TamTam), Friday, 22 July 2011 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I believe that. When are we going to start getting 3-D rom-coms from these absolutists?
I've now seen three or four films "shot in digital 3-D" in 2-D, and not once have I felt I missed anything. In fact, nor would have I ever known they were even shot in 3-D from the 2-D versions.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2011 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
digital 3-D naked charlize theron pushups
― peter in montreal, Friday, 22 July 2011 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
we didn't start the fire
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
I approve Ridley Scott trying to scare me instead of put me to sleep as he has seemed so intent on doing of late.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 22 July 2011 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Matchstick Men...in 3-D
― cave duel (latebloomer), Friday, 22 July 2011 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
hadn't this thread title been edited to point out that this is the 'Prometheus' thread earlier?
― Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 July 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
It had, but then it hiccuped or something. Let me try again.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 July 2011 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://collider.com/prometheus-interview-charlize-theron-damon-lindelof-comic-con/104250
― Once Were Moderators (DG), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Charlize, earlier you joked about doing nudity in the film.THERON: I wasn’t joking, gosh! I’m an Academy Award winner. I’m serious.LINDELOF: Why would we ever joke about something like that?
THERON: I wasn’t joking, gosh! I’m an Academy Award winner. I’m serious.
LINDELOF: Why would we ever joke about something like that?
― j., Monday, 25 July 2011 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
the comments section y'all the comments section!
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/07/21/prometheus-comiccon-alien-ridley-scot/
lol
― Foster the People? More like Fester the Poophole! (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
“We begin at the beginning,” Lindelof said during a session with reporters before the film’s big Hall H panel presentation. “Ridley has been cryptically obtuse about everything, but there are some big ideas in Prometheus. It covers a vast expanse of time, past, present, and future.”
So it's now a remake of 2001?
― Circlework de Soleil (S-), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah it's a crossover. original it was called HALiens
― Foster the People? More like Fester the Poophole! (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
seriously though it sounds like Mission to Mars with Giger monsters more than anything
― Foster the People? More like Fester the Poophole! (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i hope it's better than Hannibal.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hannibal was one of the least bad of his recent films
Still can't re-watch it due to a couple scenes making me want to vomit and have nightmares, though.
― mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Predators didnt create the aliens. The space jockey’s created the Aliens as a weapon or they were mearly collectors of them to use as a weapon. It’s conflicting in the literature. They would drop them onto a planet to wipe out indigenous life and would then come back to kill off all of the aliens using sonic weapons. That space jockey ship in Alien was one of their offensive drop ships. The Predators simply use the Aliens as a means to have something to hunt. They would drop a few eggs down, wait, then go hunt. An alien queen kill is I believe the greatest trophy in their culture.
― its realy sad, it was a R.I.P. thread (kkvgz), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOBA aka the stankdriver (Phil D.), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 01:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is that Boba Fett's ship?
― mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
looks like a fancy codpiece or a bicycle seat
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
boba fett's ship was basically a repainted streetlight
― mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://io9.com/5826616/new-prometheus-images-provide-a-terrifying-reminder-of-the-original-alien/gallery/1
― latebloomer, Monday, 1 August 2011 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
more here:
http://www.scriptflags.com/2011/08/prometheus-teaser-trailer-captured.html#more
nah, not an alien prequel in any way, no sir.
― latebloomer, Monday, 1 August 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
why do they hide these trailers when they've been shown in public? seems mad.
― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Since ilx has been down and shit, why not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_luIM6xaIck
I should know better, but this undeniably *looks* awesome, FUIUD.
― latebloomer, Friday, 13 January 2012 06:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
best viewed in HD:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/
― latebloomer, Friday, 13 January 2012 06:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Pretty sure that removing the unheimlich mystery from the space jockey and the derelict can only be a bad thing but yeah I can't help but feel a little bit stoked either.
― ledge, Friday, 13 January 2012 09:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://io9.com/5889058/ridley-scotts-amazing-prometheus-short-film-reveals-the-weyland-corps-shining-future
So excited for this.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, agreed -- I admit the trailer sold me.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meantime, bring on the viral marketing:
https://www.weylandindustries.com/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
guess AvsP isn't canon then
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
weyland-smithers corporation
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
kinda lolsy that it's pre-yutani.
lol I made the same goofy AvP canon comment to my friend
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh snap
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
"weyland-smithers corporation"
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
if you'll indulge me, i'd like to nerd out just a little bit
WY logo from the first Alien:
WY logo from the second and third Alienses:
logo from Prometheus
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
...
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 04:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe it's one of those magic eye things
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 04:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh, link's not showing up
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
but yeah there's a magic eye thing going. it's a sailboat.
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
a biomechanical nightmare sailboat with vaginapenises
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
not really feeling this fake ted talk /picky
― goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
didn't watch it tbh. Not into that kind of viral marketing stuff
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
i dunno what guy pearce is doing, ted talks don't sound like the speeches from braveheart
― goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't get the Guy Pearce thing, according to it the movie takes place in the 2020s? And we're supposed to have interstellar space travel and cyborgs by then? Is the movie set in some alternate Earth?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
gonna be a hell of a next 10 years
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is the movie set in some alternate Earth?
No, it's a future documentary like all science fiction films
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
the speed of quibbling doubles every 18 months
― goole, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Given the context of the fake page hosting it, I think the TED talk video is supposed to be around fifty years before the 'now' of Prometheus, so there you go.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
need suggestions for autoreplacing every question mark Tuomas posts.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah the TED talk is Weyland talking about THE FUTURE and in the actual film there's an android
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ah okay, so Pearce will be an android in the movie? Makes sense.
I just read the movie's synopsis on IMDb:
A team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a journey to the darkest corners of the universe.
Since the Aliens are bioweapons engineered by the Space Jockeys, the big reveal in this movie must be that humans were bioengineered by them as well, right? Hence the title "Prometheus" (and its allusion to Frankenstein and various other creating-life stories).
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah, Fassbender is the android, I think
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
ugh that would kind of suck, i always liked the idea of them just being random lifeforms we (and the space jockeys) were unlucky enough to come across
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
humanity must have been one of their failed early experiments
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
of course i'm stoked for this but i really fear it's gonna be the exact same prequel retconning i fucking hate
― goole, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:03 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah it was p lame and overdone
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
The fake TED talk makes Weyland look like a bombastic asshole. Seems about right.
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
guys what if the aliens were actually the crew of the prometheus that were mutated?!?
Everyone's an android /spoiler
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
xxxpost
WmC just replace "?" with "!!!"
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
That wouldn't reveal the origin of mankind though. Unless the aliens were sent back in time and became our ancestors.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think replacing all your question marks with exclamation points would indeed reveal the origin of mankind, though.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
we are all ~aliens~ if u think about it, from the right POV
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
"The fake TED talk makes Weyland look like a bombastic asshole."
in the trailer, on the TED screen there are livestreamed comments from the audience -- one of them is something to the effect of 'christ what an asshole'
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
from the right POV we are all backwards cowboy aliens
― (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
reverse cowgirl aliens
(sorry)
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
&
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
As long as there are aliens of some sort in this, I think we're all good.
Why do future space people name things after tragic figures? Like, why would you name a planet Pandora and expect anything good to come of it? Why would you name a ship Prometheus? That's like naming your ship Icarus, your spelunking party Orpheus, or your son Oedipus. In the future, have the endings of all these Greek myths been forgotten?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
they named the ship Icarus in Sunshine. Actually even better, it's called Icarus II cos the first one disappeared on its mission to the Sun.
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
was that the space jockey?
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
indeed it was
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
so it WASN'T a pred ship
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
space jockeys:predators::OG Klingons:forehead ridge Klingons
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I liked Icarus II better than the original.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeahhh, why kid myself, i'm gonna go see this opening day
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Number None, Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol this is all so otm
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
"i hereby unveil our advanced new interstellar ship... the Space Titanic!"
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hahaha xp
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Why do future space people name things after tragic figures? Like, why would you name a planet Pandora and expect anything good to come of it? Why would you name a ship Prometheus? That's like naming your ship Icarus, your spelunking party Orpheus, or your son Oedipus. In the future, have the endings of all these Greek myths been forgotten?― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's a tragic figure in that he meets a pretty awful end, but he's definitely a scientific hero.
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:40 (3 days ago) Permalink
yeah totally.
they have to come up with a really unique take to pull off what i think they're trying to do with this: mission to mars with monsters.
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mars Needs Monsters
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was the original title but they pulled a john carter
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
"ah fuck it, we'll make it into an Alien prequel"
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meantime a little more about Weyland Industries:
https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/timeline
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
speaking of redonkulous retcons/franchises filling in details that didn't need explicating, in Star Trek Enterprise they actually explained why the Kirk-era Klingons didn't have forehead ridges while the later ones did: A VIRUS!
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 March 2012 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
New full trailer sometime tonight and a sneak's been seen:
http://io9.com/5894182/weve-seen-the-first-full-trailer-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 March 2012 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
ridley scott, today at wondercon panel
my nips are fucking hard!xela1221 4 minutes ago 7
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
the opening of that looked just like the first Alien vs Predator movie
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
looks cool though
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Erich von Daniken has a lot to answer for
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
holy shit the sound in that trailer!
& is that benedict wong? don't let him work out the calculations for the spaceship trajectory! he'll fuck it up!
― ledge, Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
This looks good! I will regret anticipating it tho I'm almost sure
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah I loved the screaming sound towards the end.
But can we be done with the Inception-ish low-horn blasts now, christ I'm so sick of hearing that in every actiony trailer.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
i know, what is it about that sound thats really appealing here? i'm slowly getting more excited than i should about this. damn trailers.
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
whoa ^_^
― bnw, Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Okay, that was pretty damn good.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:27 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
thats the siren noise from the original Alien trailer (probably the greatest trailer ever cut)
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
feel like that trailer gave away TOO MUCH
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Stringer Bell's accent sounds a little off. Or is it just me?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost H4A: ohhh fuck you genius thank you
Whomever is making these trailers deserves an award for making trailers.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Trailys 2012
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Goddamm that og trailer is so good
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm gonna be so goddam sad when they stop using film to make movies
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Does ALIEN have the greatest cast ever?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 March 2012 02:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was thinking that exact thing watching the trailer. If it's not the greatest it's damn close.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:11 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 02:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, March 17, 2012 9:45 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 18 March 2012 02:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
has there ever been a movie that was part of a franchise where the audience didn't know for sure until actually seeing the film?
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 18 March 2012 02:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
The screaming alarm in that Prom. trailer reminds me of Clare Torry's screaming at the end of "Speak to Me", right before "Breathe" kicks in.
― epistantophus, Sunday, 18 March 2012 03:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
guys go to 2:37 in the trailer
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
1:37, sorry
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://i.imgur.com/UL3mC.jpg if you're lazy
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
While I'm still a bit meh re: 3D and wasn't planning on even checking out this silly prequel stuff (even though I've bought some kind of Alien quadrology box thig twice now, first as DVDs and later BluRay) I have to admit that trailer kinda - aw hell, yeah, I want to see it now.
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
thig->thing
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
at least the movie was shot in 3D, not post-converted, and what we've seen so far looks fantastic in 2D, so no one should complain about that aspect at least.
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
This and The Dark Knight Rises both coming out in 2012 will make the end of the world in December a little more bearable, I guess.
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 05:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
this was shot in 3d?
can i just watch it in 2d?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
Of course. Has there been a 3D release that wasn't generally available in 2D also?
― enjoy your fleetfoxesocracy sheeple (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
so tonight my friend told me that the yoga festival she's organizing starts on june 8 and i said "that's the day Prometheus comes out!!" [blank stare] "The new aliens movie!!" she laughedbut i was serious
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 08:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
i <3 u rrrobyn
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 08:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
:)
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 08:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait so this is in 3D+IMAXZ too?! whoa
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I don't know what day of the week June 8 is, but I'll be pulling a sickie if it's a weekday
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Sunday, 18 March 2012 09:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
if only there was a way we could find out...
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 09:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Re:3-D, while it's the last thing I want to see, 1) This is the first Ridley Scott joint in 3-D, and the man knows how to make a movie, 2) It's actually shot in 3-D, rather than retrofitted and 3) Scott is one of those rare directors so thrilled with the 3-D results that he's sworn (ha) never to make another 2-D movie.
Of course, the question should be, have you ever seen a 2-D version of a recent 3-D movie and wished it was in 3-D? I would answer no, and I've seen a bunch of them "flat," from Captain American and Harry Potter to recent Pixars. Not a one had me leaving the theatre wishing things were jumping at my face. A few that I saw in 3-D - Up, TS3, Hugo - might as well have been in 2-D, bar a scene or two. So who knows what Ridley has up his sleeves.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
And then there's Avatar, which I could not have at through were it not in 3-D, which is its own sort of novelty category.
Yeah wow this is badass. Amazing trailer. Had no idea Charlize Theron was in this.
3D, who cares. I've never really had an unpleasant 3D experience with RealD, the worst that happened was that bits didn't look 3D enough. Which, hey, puts you back in the same spot you were already in.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
thing is im not super convinced 'the man knows how to make a movie' anymore
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm : (
― caek, Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
fucker better not George Lucas me.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
space jockey all with a liberian accent
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
We're on an express elevator to hell...going down! Yipppieeeeee!
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
trailer's neat, space jockey starts to chest burst @ 2:11. also looks like the aliens came from humans infected with a virus, which is an interesting wrinkle if that's where they went with it.
unfortunately it seems like the grubby "used future" set design got lost somewhere, this looks like it takes place 3000 years *after* the first alien.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, midi-chlorians.It must be using them for blood.
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
thats a terrible wrinkle imho
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
c'mon man we've met the xenomorph and IT is US
MIND BLOWN
ok not really but w/e
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
so lame
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Our people are dying, Burke. We must do something to stop the Aliens!Hold on a second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'll watch anything with either John Hurt or Ian Holm to this day, and Alien had both. Kinda the opposite of my reaction to Nick Cage or Sandra Bullock in the credits (which would make Welcome to Hollywood (2000) the worst cast ever, I suppose).
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:56 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
heh this happened with the star wars prequels too
what happened was that 30 yrs passed between the first one and the prequel in real time and people invented computers :(
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
they still could have made a grubby looking movie for a lot of money with all those computahs
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's probably a fancier ship tbf
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
You know, I hadn't really considered it, but yeah, his last 20 years have been erratic as fuck. But then, half of his films in that span seemingly also star Russell Crowe (I forgot that Robin Hood movie existed!) so who knows.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe the man has just been making the wrong movies?
s1ocki hates scifi and everything good, maybe has acid 4 blood
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't think that's the Space Jockey's chest bursting either
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
feel like she's getting locked in for a space ride
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
getting out i would say
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
greatest cast ever = The Right Stuff. but Alien is close
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
sorry 2:12, def space jockey chest burst tho
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's really not
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Either fake, or an early draft: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/leaked_script.txt
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok maybe not
xp
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
this movie is really a prequel to Tootsie
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is a prequel, right? So the stuff had to be used first before it could acquire its 'used' look.
― ledge, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Plus, space work crews aren't going to need set fancy gadgets, just durable shit that works consistently! Alien still had a voice controlled computer and androids.
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, but come on - the stuff in the preview doesn't just look fresh out of the box, it looks all slick and glowy and colorful...it's not just that Alien felt used, it also felt utilitarian. Yeah, okay, they were truckers, but even the space suits in this look a lot more stylized, not to mention their...light grenade? hologram flinging? whatever? thing. I'm still stoked about it but there's a weird mismatch in the look and feel, makes it seem like more a generic 21st century sci-fi movie. Pandorum or something.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
??
i love sci-fi and i PARTICULARLY love everything good
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
the red glowy orb was ott
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Dudes who made the computer model in Cave of Forgotten Dreams are so jealous of that ott red glowy orb.
― Sufjan Grafton, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
want a red orb, tbh
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is a prequel, so clearly the fancy technology is fresh out of the box. By the time we get to "Alien," the ships and equipment are all beat up and run down and dusty and stuff. No doubt this will be explained in great detail in this movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
is thsi for sure a prequel at this poitn cuz i thought Ridley said nuh uh
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
wiki:The plot follows the crew of the spaceship Prometheus in the year 2085, as they explore an advanced alien civilization in search of the origins of humanity.
Conceived as a prequel to Scott's 1979 science fiction horror film Alien, rewrites of Spaihts' script by Lindelof developed a separate story that precedes the events of Alien, but which is not directly connected to the films in the Alien franchise. According to Scott, though the film shares "strands of Alien's DNA, so to speak", and takes place in the same universe, Prometheus will explore its own mythology and ideas. Principal photography began in March 2011, with filming taking place in England, Iceland, and Spain. Prometheus is scheduled for release between May 30 and June 8, 2012 in various territories through 20th Century Fox.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
they're just being coy
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
and 'prequel' is a tainted word at this point
"greatest cast ever = The Right Stuff. but Alien is close"
This is actually worthy of a poll, but IMO if the Right Stuff wins its just because of quantity over quality. I'd put Holm, Hurt, Stanton up with anyone in TRS.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
that would be a good poll
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
alien would win on this board
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Already got yr excuse ready. :)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
you never know. ilx is challopsy enough to say Harry Dean Stanton is overrated & Barbara Hershey is the greatest of all time or something.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Barbara Hershey is pretty great.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Except in the Black Swan.
You guys have probably already discussed this, I missed this thread for some reason, but this site is pretty cool.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Except Especially in the Black Swan.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
o this comes out on my birthday, guess i'll see it on my birthday
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Started reading that "leaked script" and spotted something like 3 typos in the first 5-6 lines, including misspellings, homonyms, and just plain using the wrong word. Obviously bullshit.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:04 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
does that site do something besides show that spinning gif?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Re: weylandcorp.com - whatever happened to the yutani bit? Or did I miss something?
(it links to a 2023 TED talk and there's a "register for more info" - those are the two parts that work on my android phone)
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't have a spinning gif, android doesn't do animated gifs (at least, it doesn't on my phone)
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meantime another trailer with a different focus...
http://io9.com/5894326/uk-prometheus-digs-deeper-into-the-films-archaeological-mission
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
When I click on it, it spins for a bit then goes to a landing page that links to the TED talk and has other features that are "coming soon". I just like the design of the site and I'm a sucker for in-depth viral stuff like this, particularly for sci-fi films.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think the spinning gif only pops up the first time you load the site, in the future it just takes you to the main screen.
well that... makes... sense....
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like that second trailer too!
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
who's that standing behind the S here? Must be pretty big, that space jockey was gigantic in Alien.
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
he's the dude that the virus infects to make into an alien
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
since all of the trailers seem to give away a lot of the plot I bet there's a big reveal that none of us are gonna be ready for
It was all a dream! The bad guys are the good guys! Aliens taste like chicken!
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
giant dude is the Space Jockey
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://i.imgur.com/euMfb.jpg
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
It isn't him unless that skeleton is a suit imo
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
it'll be a biomechanical suit or whatever
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
and the comics ain't canon
I know I just wanted everybody to see how funny the jockey looks
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, that would be way better obviously
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
omg are those 3D goggles he's holding? mind boggles @ goggles
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's a suit for sure, probably a biomechanical interface to the ship. /nerd
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
guys
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
This Peter Weyland timeline is pretty ridiculous, but explains the fake TED talk megalomania. He fixes global warming, creates terraforming, does stem cell research, and cures almost all cancers by age 25! Gets a Nobel prize at 26! Gives ridiculous TED talk and then creates super-amazing androids!
I kind of hope this is in line with the Alien films, because lol even though dude was a genius his company still merges with Yutani corp and in a few hundred years is bought by Wal-Mart.
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Can't tell what that's supposed to be? They put in a green goblin for st. patrick's day? Xpost
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's the really tall dude activating something that has a green energy ball popping up. Really quick cut toward the end of the trailer.
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, missed this on the timeline:
After years of litigation, Weyland wins the David patent lawsuit against the Japanese start-up Yutani Corporation, effectively protecting the investments of both Weyland Industries and its shareholders.
Presumably the world of Prometheus is one where scientific progress makes a leap due to a shitload of funding and effort that reality lacks. Guessing Weyland is the front-runner, with some competitors?
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't think that guy is necessarily really tall, we don't see where his feet are touching the ground or whether the floor slopes up near the walls
like his head seems to be about half the size of the space jockey's which proportionally matches this picture
― the late great, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, it's going to be a long two and a half months until this gets released. (and in about ten years I'll laugh about this post when the tread gets revived because the 4D UV-disc remaster is released)
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
i hope there will be a cloverfield-esque shitstorm of endless fake spoilers and arguments about clues in viral ads that are then completely irrelevant to the movie
― the late great, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
we can only hope
that corporate timeline mentions a weyland "memorial library" but I think it's a red herring. if peter weyland is born in 1990, he could be mid-80s by the time of the movie. crepey pale-looking dude could be peter weyland
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
or more accurately, the stuff about "looking for a practical use for stasis" makes me think that dude is gonna go into stasis to skip ahead -- you know, the old "thaw me out when we can travel to other worlds" trick
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
can't believe weyland was born in the 90s i feel old
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
What worries me more is that the world of 2085 doesn't remember what happened in the 1979 Alien movie.
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
It doesn't segue into Alien but it leaves some of its own questions unanswered, leaving open the option of a sequel: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prometheus_(film)&mobileaction=view_normal_site#Sequel
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yay. Look, go to wikipedia, it's on the Prometheus page, section called sequel.
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
"if we’re fortunate enough to do a sequel to Prometheus, it will tangentialize even further away from the original Alien."
tangetialize, yall
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mmm. In Germany, the movie will be called "Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"(that's "Dark Signs" or dark symbols)
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
What I want to know is if the space jockey ship in this is the derelict from Alien, or just another ship of the same type.
also looks like the aliens came from humans infected with a virus, which is an interesting wrinkle if that's where they went with it.
While I don't doubt there will be lots of retconned silliness in this flick, I'm pretty sure that the "aliens came from humans infected with a virus" scenario won't be part of that. For starters, this mural http://i.imgur.com/UL3mC.jpg seen at 1:37 in the trailer, pretty much makes it clear that the aliens have been around for a while before the events of the movie.
My guess is that the "space jockeys" are a race of bioengineers of some sort and the aliens are one of many bioweapons or creations of theirs (those little worm things in the trailer are probably another).
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
They made humans!!!
― mh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Or did they? Wait for Prometheus 2: The Reckoning in 2016!
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
what are we looking at in that photo latebloomer?
― the late great, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Prometheus 2: The Retconning
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
an alien, brah!
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
yuk. multiple trailers. showing way too much.
=failure
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Failien
― StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
exactly
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
that photo makes me v excited
I realllllly hope I don't regret this anticipation
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's alien hunter in a christ pose?
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
or the underside of a facehugger?
the former
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
You changed you display name for a film? Pathetic.
― StanMetheus (StanM), Monday, 19 March 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
losers
― fartmetheus (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
all your farts eat cock
― young drometheus (dayo), Monday, 19 March 2012 01:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
HEY GUYS THIS IS JI
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 01:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― StanM, Sunday, 18 March 2012 23:11 (Yesterday)
this is called the prequel paradox
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 19 March 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:50 PM (2 hours ago)
maybe that mural was a failed experiment and it took the ruthless spirit of humans for the space jockey bioengineers to finally perfect their killing machine!
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 19 March 2012 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
space jockey just makes me think abt underpants
as you were, sorry
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 02:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:35 PM (8 hours ago)
I notice you conveniently avoid any disavowal of acid blood
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 19 March 2012 02:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
every time I read the title of this movie I keep thinking of that student film Jay Sherman made on The Critic
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 19 March 2012 03:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:41 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i dont like to get into my personal life on ilx
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 03:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Space S1ocki just makes me think about underpants
He's got the acid sperm too, probably. But he doesn't wanna talk about it.
― StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 05:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X5tzVA8y7yM/T2dO0BEMi8I/AAAAAAAAALM/sdD8xof6ZVk/s1600/ilovealien.jpg
(be nice, mine)
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wish I could go to your life classes! Nice one.
― ledge, Monday, 19 March 2012 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
was that alien's host jay leno
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Next drawing shows him eating that new Doritos taco...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
i am tempted to go home and sketch some life-drawing type figures lounging on Victorian sofas with alien heads.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
noomi lookin excellent
― goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
The first viral puzzle was solved and revealed a big ass screenshot: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Prometheus-Viral-Reveals-Stunning-Image-29828.html
The second viral puzzle has revealed a login page but no password yet: http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/245409 was a signal sent in July 2003 to star Gliese 208 (one of Orion's stars - signal is expected to reach the star in 2040): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call
<3 this useless geek stuff
― StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
hate it
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
:-)
there's also this: http://www.projectprometheus.com/eridu/
(Eridu was one of the first cities in humanity's history)
― StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rightly or wrongly I'm starting to think about the film as very much its own thing -- I really don't care if it does or doesn't sync up with Alien in all details, and I actually like the idea of it being a self-sufficient variation. (Of course having said that it'll turn out that it DOES fully sync up etc. etc.)
I'd also like to think that the comment upthread about the 'real' twists not even being hinted at at all in the trailers has relevance, if only because Scott and Lindelof by now are well aware of a hyperexpectant/detail-oriented fan culture now decades established and even more precise in the frame-by-frame years.
Anyway, we'll see. And I have no problem with weird viral scheming.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'll cry a lot if it turns out to be a George Lucas thing where there is a lot of plot not hinted at in the trailer, and all of it is unwatchable boring garbage.
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
it turns out the space jockeys are interstellar tariff collectors
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fucking space economics how do they work
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
I should check but is the Walter Hill listed as a coproducer THE Walter Hill? Kinda random if so.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
speaking of continuity, ownership, all that: does anyone know what scott thinks of cameron/aliens? or any of the stuff after? i wonder. if it's even knowable. or the writers?
(checks imdb) walter hill has been behind all of them, i see. and lindelof is a "lost" guy? and the other writer has a thin resume? this stuff is interesting, idk. about as interesting as "<3 this useless geek stuff"
xp heh
― goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
sorta surprised by how much people care about this...? Ridley Scott hasn't made a decent movie in eons, the odds that milking an already bled-dry franchise even further will somehow result in a decent film are really low
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Here's Cameron
Ridley Scott is talking about doing an Alien prequelThat’s a strange move for him. I mean, Ridley and I talked over lunch maybe 10 years ago and I said, “Look, I’ll write it and produce it, you direct it, it’ll ****ing kick ass!” And he was like, “Yeah, let’s do it!” And nothing happened. And then they did Alien vs. Predator, and that kind of pissed in the soup. I think Ridley really should do science fiction. He made the two most iconic science-fiction films of the 20th century. When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her:
http://cdn.chud.com/9/99/9936eaaa_prometheus1.jpeg
― StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, all credit to Cameron, obv.
I'm probably one of the few people who liked his Robin Hood? It wasn't mind-blowing or anything, but IMO it was an interesting attempt to do a more "realistic" take on the RH mythos. Certainly better than Gladiator.
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Most anything is better than Gladiator.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
My god, these monsters are hideous when they're out of their suits: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m5f993.jpg
― StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dug Robin Hood for the same reasons, Tuomas
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I liked Russell Crowe's Irish accent
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
the battle scene on the beach was pretty cool
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Some of the preview designs look interesting, but at this point, I expect every genre film to be shit or massively disappointing, so I ain't got my hopes up.
That said, I'm trying to think of other iconic 20th C films that reach that level. 2001, maybe? Star Wars and the Matrix were both tarnished by later connected flicks.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Matrix tarnished by its makers imho
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
How so
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Star Wars wasn't?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
We should probably have a thread for the Wachowski's Cloud Atlas at some point. Gonna be hilarious
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
matrix is great. sequels are poop. wachowski's are just some people, iirc.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Come to think of it, I still have never seen Alien IV a second time. Kinda wanna watch Alien 3 to see how many UK character actors I recognize.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her
seriously look like some space cthulhus
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”
Hahah. OTM. But I saw said wine flick on a flight (rather, I noted it was playing but didn't bother actually dealing with the audio) and it certainly looked appropriately gorgeous so hey.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Marion Cotillard looked appropriately gorgeous. Dunno about the movie
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
what the fuck does charlie chaplin have to do with north face, that's the dumbest meme i've ever seen
also ridley scott has made at least a few decent movies in the last eon: black hawk down, gladiator, american gangster, body of lies
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't think any of those are epochal like alien or aliens but definitely around the sweet spot between popcorn thriller and more serious fare
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol charlie chaplin
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
cotillard? chaplin? what happened, i am confused
― goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
could def see cotillard playing paulette godard in a new biopic
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait, this is a BIOPIC?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
xenobiopic
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha willie wonka my bad
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also, Alien IV was one of those times that so crystallized the prevailing design trend at the time for me. That particular trend being "Looking like a Quake level"
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha yes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah and also, i think i said this already somewhere on this thread, but it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
and four years before quake (a year before doom, even)
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
the only good part of that movie was the chick that drowned
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"
tbh, i think the heavy presence of the gritty and industrial in the 90s pop visual imagination owes a lot to david fincher
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Most interesting thing about Alien Resurrection now is it basically being a very early version of Whedon's "Firefly," pretty much.
That and Brad Dourif getting his head eaten.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
https://www.weylandindustries.com/6EQUJ5/6EQUJ5.jpg
so psyched for prometheus: the fifth element
― dayo, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
the fountainmetheus
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien 3 was before Doom. 4 had the Jeunet crew and rusted, crusted brown metal and hit in 97, between Quake 2 & 3, I think.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah. The original Quake was 96 but it was kind of a medieval deal
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
― goole, Monday, March 19, 2012 2:07 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark
he initially didnt like aliens but i think he came around on it. ridley can be a bit of a crank. iirc that thing about where cameron talks about teaming up with him on an alien movie was sort of a thing he put out there to try and get them to not make AvP - 'hey dont do that and we'll do this for you instead' - its hilarious to imagine those two hardasses getting along on a set though. that'd be the most torrid production ever probably
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
"What's my motivation?"
"Go talk to the older aggro white bearded guy."
"Uh."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, March 19, 2012 7:16 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you do know ppl are talking about "alien resurrection" not "alien3" right
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, March 19, 2012 7:12 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^^^^^^LOL yes.
I h8 that movie so much.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Monday, March 19, 2012 6:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah he co-wrote/produced the original Alien with David Giler and Gordon Carroll. They were responsible for the android Ash, a lot of the space truckeraesthetic and some other things. They also infamously tried to lock out the original writer, Dan O'Bannon, from getting credit.
They have had producing credit on every Alien movie since, even Alien vs Predator.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
And they also came up with the "soldiers in space" scenario for Aliens and after reading Cameron's Terminator script asked him to write it.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've watched the hell out of the Alien series in the last six months after remembering I got the blu-ray set for Christmas over a year ago. I can enjoy all of them, but I'd rank Alien over Aliens any day. I'm really bad at elaborating, but I feel like Cameron definitely created some of the strongest stock characters and battles, but Alien somehow feels better as a film. It's kind of survival horror versus straight up action movie, though.
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meanwhile, Jeunet/Whedon's take was pretty much "Whedon meets French science fiction" which means it either needs to have fart jokes, take itself way too seriously, or both.
Fincher was pretty much screwed from the start
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
when did jeunet become a stand-in for all french sci-fi?
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was kind of generalizing to the few I've seen? Not necessarily just Jeunet
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:French_science_fiction_films
I've seen more than I thought! I think there are a few Quebec films in here, but French language regardless
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
― the late great, Monday, March 19, 2012 3:14 PM (1 hour ago)
whiney?
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien Resurrection is pretty funny if you imagine that the Winona android was based on Amelie
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah, i said the chick, not the drowning
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
I had a Hollywood insider friend in college, and I remember him leaking the Alien 4 script to me. I read it over, and I was like, no fucking way. Same thing happened when he showed me the script to "A Life Less Ordinary," and I thought, no one way is this the follow-up to "Trainspotting."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
ironic, because danny boyle was attached to direct Alien Resurrection at one point
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Had a shot at being better with him attached, imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, it was kinda funny seeing how he grafted on a horror subplot to Sunshine. Total "damn I should've taken Alien IV" syndrome
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
The horror plot is kind of ehhh but Sunshine was pretty awesome cast and visual-wise
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, it was a beautiful not-very-good movie.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien Resurrection can't even say that for itself. It's just ugly and stupid all the way through.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm not very trustworthy though, I watched Pandorum a couple times when it was on starz.
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've waxed about Sunshine elsewhere on ilx, but to sum up: I've made my peace with the third act and I'm glad it's the way it is.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Best parts of Alien Resurrection:
- Ripley clones, including the one who is a main character being "born" and the creepy botched ones - When Ripley seems especially non-human/cold at the beginning, bleeds acid, and Weaver has a way with motion that really projects something creepy, that she's not human - The aliens killing one of their own to unleash enough acid to escape, after they've learned about the punishment button from creepy scientist dude - Total horror of the people revived from stasis only to have the first thing they see be a facehugger
The army, Dan Hedaya, mercenary bits are all... not so hot. The "sheeee's giving birth for YOU, Ripley!" part is trying too hard for body horror and it's not quite there
um now I'm back to thinking about Prometheus
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
i love brad dourif
― goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
is alien 4 the one where they play basketball?
― dayo, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
yup
― catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
The basketball scene is... some of the best and worst elements of the movie meeting
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really hated how dumbed down the aliens were in that movie. They look like slimy velociraptors. And the movie's so brown that in some shots they look like piles of shit with teeth. There's some really ugly cinematography in that movie.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean, it's a space monster movie, this shit's important
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I caught a bit of alien 4 when it was on TV - breaks the rule of not showing the monster too much, right?
― dayo, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
They also infamously tried to lock out the original writer, Dan O'Bannon, from getting credit.
Ah, well, fuck them, then.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
The only shitty thing about the Alien series as far as I'm concerned is a coke-addled James Cameron going on a "they killed Newt / I will never forgive them" tirade. A1 is awesome, A2-4 are almost all equally watchable.
Oh, the part in A4 when the baby hybrid shows up was bad. xp
― mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
A2-4 are almost all equally watchable.
no
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Although when I saw the movie in the theatre, the projector cinched up right at the moment of the big (crap) reveal, the light burnt the film and the movie ended. We got free passes to the next showing. It was a way better ending than Jeunet's xp
― mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wm Gibson did a draft of the Alien3 screenplay, iirc
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
The aliens killing one of their own to unleash enough acid to escape, after they've learned about the punishment button from creepy scientist dude
that part is awesome
the alien baby hybrid getting killed by mama ripley was ... sad :-(
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah that's crazy. A2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A3>>>>>>>>>>>insert vastness of space where no one can you scream>>>>>>>>>>>A4
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
was there anybody NOT involved with A3 iirc
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
tila tequila
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dunno, the A2>A3>A4 thing is popular consensus but I basically feel like Jeunet>Fincher>everybody>Cameron so whatever
― mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean i've always sorta felt like 2 and 3 were just sorta "here is the Alien story, with a slightly different (action! apocalyptic!) angle on it
4 was like HI ITS THE 90S
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore
― goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
3 is awesome
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
i really gotta go watch all of them again, if i can (i've seen 1 & 2 so many times)
watched predator last night btw, à cause de l'action poll. fuck that is a terrific movie. only real flaw is that shot of the predator walking off while arnie is first caked in mud, he just looks wayyy too much like a dude skipping through the forest
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
and the pupil becomes the master
― catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
"cable staples" could be a pretty good movie thread
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
should be stratified by era imo
― catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
James Cameron going on a "they killed Newt / I will never forgive them" tirade.
you act like cameron is the only guy who thought that sucked
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, March 19, 2012 10:23 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think alien 3's actually pretty good.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is how it goes:
Alien: FantasticAliens: Sequel perfection--everything is "bigger/louder/more", but done intelligently and with beautiful design work that fits with and expands the world/universe glimpsed in the first filmAlien3: interesting ideas, hopelessly compromised production, flawed but surprisingly good film (especially the not-really-director's-cut)Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
exactly^
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
ALIEN is straight up a great (creeping terror haunted house let's take a B movie and make it A+) film. ALIENS is mostly bollocks and way too blue. Smaller/quieter/less is exactly what made ALIEN work. Shit give me just Tom Skerritt talking to Mother over all of ALIENS.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
u mad
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel like Aliens is a great film but as far as the actual premise of the aliens being this insidious thing in the shadows, thinking of nothing else:1 > 3> 2 > 4
3 screwed up by showing the alien ripping up people in the hallways too many times in the run up to the ending, but ehhh
Aliens also gave us the whole egg-laying thing!
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
think there might have been an egg in ALIEN iirc
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
There were gestating facehuggers but we didn't get the "alien craps out eggs through giant weird tube" thing
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
The egg sequence at the end was cut. Still in the Alan Dean Foster novelization I got for Christmas in '89, tho
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
obviously you spray an alien with acid and facehugger eggs fly off, just like when a mogwai gets wet
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
if you feed them after midnight they turn into a predator
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Gremlins Vs Predator
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
wonder if the franchise would have been as successful if they stuck with the original title of STAR BEAST
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like Jeunet better than Fincher or Cameron too, but you gotta admit doing an Alien movie was not really playing up to his strengths.
If you're upset about Newt being killed in A3, you should read the original black & white Dark Horse Aliens comics by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson. They were made after Aliens but before A3, so they feature the grown-up Newt as the protagonist, with a pretty good plot that touches the origins of the Space Jockey and the Aliens too.
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
STAR BEASTSSTAR BEAST³STAR BEAST: RESURRECTION
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
STAR BEAST 4: SEXY BEAST
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
boom!
― mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, the DH comics were usually better written and more inventive than the sequels to Aliens.
Kinda wish they would have made "Earth War" at some point like the third one was teased as
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Star Beast 4: Dancing With the Star Beasts
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, March 19, 2012
OTM and I find A:R much less painful if I watch it as spoof.
Need to watch A3 again, I think. iirc Charleses Dutton and Dance ruled pretty hard?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"
oh man that's a great beer
― epistantophus, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
That whiny "They're gonna get us, Man! We're gonna die, Maaaan!" guy in Aliens ruins that movie for me nowadays.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
HEY watch what you say about Bill Paxton, friend
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since
LOL ppl blaming screenwriters for what ends up on the screen. Like, Whedon is the LEAST responsible person for what happened there.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love Hudson
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
maaaaaaaaaaaaan
Whedon's fans are idiots though. I think we can all agree on that
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
wasn't resurrection based on a comic?
i am almost certain there was a comic about a dude who is studying captured aliens that also features a disabled character
worst thing about jeuneut is how he uses the same weirdo character actors over and over again
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like them in his "own" movies, but yeah, it was pretty weird seeing the clown protagonist from Delicatessen in an Alien movie.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Every director does that, you just hate Dominique Pinon
― mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
jeunet is really not that great guys
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha i've always thought this too
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
also
Alien = greenAliens = blueAlien3 = yellowAlien4 = doesn't know what it is
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
sort of a diarhhea green
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've read this defence of him often, re Alien 4, so I tracked down his original script, and pretty much everything I hated is in there already. He just didn't GET why the first films are great; all he did was write a splatter movie with a few half-arsed pretensions.
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fincher almost made one without an android, but the android appearance is so cool I'll forgive it.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
my mood after watching Alien 4 in the theatre on opening day was one of sneering disappointment that later turned to sadness. i haven't even rewatched it! yet i've learned nothing and am super excited about Prometheus.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, March 19, 2012 12:40 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
clearly not! i missed that turn in the conversation, headed off into the dark woods alone. and yeah, was trying to say that the popularity of "gritty", "industrial" film, game and video design in the 90s owes a lot to alien³. like whatever alien resurrection might owe to quake-style game design, a fair amount of that probably circles back to the franchise via fincher.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost
dunno why A:R would have anything to teach you about PROMETHEUS tbh. I am straight up 100% officially unwaveringly anticipating the hell out of this until I have any reason not to. So far so good imo.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
does this take place before or after the alien v predator films thx in advance
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
those are not actually real. newt dreamed them while dying in hypersleep.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
plus 3 and 4 while she was at it
― goole, Monday, March 19, 2012 6:25 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its not even that jeunet is terrible or its a bad movie its that he was all lol alien imna deconstruct you not realizing that it was a great franchise that people loved prob because he didnt speak english
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
hoos otm tho its so 90s like a trip hop remix of some old great blues song
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
on IMDB a bunch of staunch defenders a few years ago accused Americans of hating Alien 4 because a Frenchman made it
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
u mean alien freedom homie
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, i kind of like the wackness of alien 4. it's a cool, weird & entertainingly messed-up slice of sci-fi horror nonsense. it's only shitty if you try to take it geek-serious in a "this is some shit that really happened in the very important alien universe" sense.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
alien 3, otoh, is seriously great for a good hour or so. then it catastrophically isn't. i'm not sure which is better or worse. neither's a patch on the first two.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:52 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
im gonna level w/you guys that was an actual cool idea i had in the 90s like you know what this mississippi john hurt could use beats modernize it a lil my god
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
luckily i had no idea how to remix anything
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh trip hop...
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i liked it
and then one day i didn't
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
We've come a long long way togetherThrough the hard times and the goodI have to evacuate you, babyThrough a tiny perforation in the ship's hull
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ big beat, same dif
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think the main thing that bugged me was that Alien4 wasn't scary or gritty
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i just remember this kid sitting in a dorm room say emphatically 'no, dj spooky spin experimental trip hop' even tho i had really nothing to do w/the conversation i am deeply embarrassed to this day
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also good: the A vs P games put out by Monolith in the early 00's. Obsidian was going to do a full Aliens RPG, but Sega canceled the project.
There's a new game coming out which is back to Colonial Marines.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I haven't played a computer game more complicated than spider solitaire in 10 years, but seriously reconsidering it based on that upcoming colonial marines game--the preview stuff makes it look like a well-done way to immerse yourself in that world
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh man, don't even wait: a vs p is a fucking thrill! nothing matches creeping down a hallway as the blip on your radar gradually increases with intensity, as if some false comfort or assurance that you've got the drop on the aliens when in fact your swerving your flashlight all fucking over, desperate to find them crawling around a wall before they ultimately get you
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
it was something i only wished doom 3 had a little more of... you tended to know when enemies would drop out. the levels, the atmosphere, always just set up for it
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, March 19, 2012
just finished re-watching it this evening and this is vv OTM, despite it coming off from the jump like a very special Doctor Who directed by Terry Gilliam with the lighting guys from an Aerosmith video.
basically solid until SPOILER charles dance gets whacked END SPOILER and then immediately unbearable
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
the lighting guys from an Aerosmith video.
heh. funny you mention that.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ok, finally just watched both the American & UK trailers for this, and the fact that they ever half-assedly claimed this wasn't an Alien movie is bonkers.
I'm just hoping they don't pull some Prequels shit and feel compelled to dump visual refs from the original flicks into this one just to try to give it a bigger impact by reminding you of the movies that preceded it.
Cute that both this & the first AvP flick involve archeological clues leading the heroes to get fucked up.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also, cute that they fit a DW ref in there by naming a character "Dr. Elizabeth Shaw"
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
They're going to find a stargate, aren't they? Xpost
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Or Pazuzu
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
the fifth element is alien dna!
― the late great, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:45 (1 hour ago) Permalink
Yeah the scene in the trailer where Noomi Rapace and her colleague/bf/husband/whatever are explaining their ancient aliens schtick to the crew is very reminiscent of a similar scene in AvP
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
btw it was very hot in those suits
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
haa
― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sad to see that Alien Loves Predator is no longer a going concern. That one always provided some laughs.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I want to say, from memory, that the alternate cut of Alien3 is significantly better. But I can't recall why, exactly.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i worry this film will be infected with so many of the current bullshit aesthetic choices of big-budget movies (see: first half of the trailer) but i still want to see it bad (see: second half of the trailer).
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I hear you, man
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
expectation management: this is gonna be thrilling & scary, it'll look great, the story will be kinda hokum but nowhere near avatar levels of cheese, and the 'alien' connection will be kinda baloney but nowhere near AvP levels of stupidity.
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
it strikes me that having a bunch of spacesuit lights pointed up around your chin would be annoying
― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Who wrote this one?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Crap. Lindelof is one red flag. The other guy is ... the other.
As a screenwriter Spaihts became known in the film industry as a "go-to-guy for space thrillers"[citation needed] when his science fiction romance Passengers was included on the 2007 Black List of unproduced high-value screenplays.[2] Keanu Reeves had hired Spaihts to write the film after originally becoming attached to Spaihts' now abandoned science fiction script Shadow 19.[3] After Reeves agreed to produce and star in Passengers,[4] Spaihts was commissioned by Scott Free Productions to write the next installments in the Alien saga, two prequel films to be directed by Ridley Scott for a release in 2012.Spaihts rewrote the alien invasion thriller The Darkest Hour for New Regency Productions[5] and worked on a film version of St. George and the Dragon for Sony Pictures Entertainment. As main screenwriter Spaihts is also attached to a Disney film project called Children of Mars. He is currently engaged in a two-picture deal at Bruckheimer Films.
"go-to-guy for space thrillers"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
[citation needed]
Children of John Carter of Mars Need Moms
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Kind of hoping Ridley Scott counteracts all the Lindelof bad points. I thought he'd written more, but it looks like I was confusing some of his producer credits with writing credits. Crap.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Spaihts probably provides technobabble, Lindelof provides stoned ideas that peter out, Scott probably went "Christ you stupid fuckers" and found a way around them both.
Haha xpost with mh but yeah.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
nothing about those two guys' resumes makes me think anything one way or another. never cared about lost tho.
― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am going to enjoy this, but I am still probably going to be laughing during the running away from the rolling spaceship segment of the movie
― (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Referencing the William Gibson script for Alien 3 mentioned earlier -- the producers had him do a script thinking that he was a novel- and short story-writing science fiction guy who would give them a script with crazy ideas and they'd work with a traditional screenwriter to hammer it into a filmable script with those ideas. What he ended up delivering was a completely filmable script with no crazy ideas. Whoops.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
"This one is for your alien mother!""Run away!"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
More insight into the bizarre world of "how producers think."
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's got the better opening scene with Charles Dance finding Ripley on the beach, and it keeps the whole subplot where they actually successfully trap the alien and the crazy guy lets it out, for starters.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
well i mean the original alien scripts were a dog's dinner of cliche and producer-driven rewrites too. i've watched enough "making of alien" docs to know that if they'd filmed either the o'bannon original or any of the rewrites straight, if they hadn't drafted scott, who then brought in giger and all the rest, we'd probably (not) be talking about a movie on the level of a third-tier roger corman flick.
but you know...movies. so god knows how it's gonna turn out.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, no, it isn't. the parts that work (first 2/3) are rejiggered and expanded in a way that doesn't harm the film, but the final act is still a complete failure.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Guys - I just shudderingly thought about Contact and how Prometheus stole the fire from the ruling deity of his time and how the peeps are going on a search for the origins of humanity... This isn't going to turn into some bullshit religious crapfest, is it?
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
if it is i am going to throw a flaming trashcan through the movie screen
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seems way too fucked up for that. Then again if the message is "Yeah Jesus Christ was an alien visitor who caused human bodies to explode" I'd be impressed.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
I want to see this at the same theater as s1ocki!
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
trashcan would take up a whole seat, you'd have to buy two tickets, i dunno if it's worth it man.
― ledge, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
you bring the trashcan, i'll bring the attitude
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jesus having acid for blood throws some real wrinkles into the Eucharist. 10/10. Would watch again.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Actually I think I'll be in the right city but I'm gone before this movie comes out :(
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Cautiously optimistic about this.
Would watch even if alien JC's bleeding acid all over the joint.
― Millsner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
they already did the jesus stuff in 3 anyway.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
if you throw the trashcan please paint one side blue and the other side red so it looks ok to the 3D goggle crowd.
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
( ^ has never been to a cinema to see a 3D movie so this may be a somewhat outdated view of how 3D works, no idea)
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
no i pretty much think that is it
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
in 3d movies generally the actors on the left hand of the screen are painted blue while the ones on the right are painted red. (see avatar)
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wow, the imdb entry has far more info than I remember:
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0103644/trivia
Richard E. Grant turned down the role of Clemens. Director David Fincher offered him the role as he was a huge fan of "Withnail & I" and wanted to reunite Grant with co-stars Paul McGann and Ralph Brown.
The damages inflicted on Bishop were too severe to have Lance Henriksen work a prosthetic head while hiding under a table/chair/platform, so the filmmakers ended up having the android being played by... an android. A mechanical copy of Henriksen's likeness was used in this movie for the portrayal of the Sulaco-Bishop.
Writer/Producer David Giler has stated he regrets writing this movie, as it eroded his authority as producer. Giler only committed to writing the film upon demands from Sigourney Weaver who, after Vincent Ward's departure, would only sign on to the film if Giler and Walter Hill would pen the screenplay. Giler claims this later generated conflicts between himself, director David Fincher and Fox Studios executives, with Fox taking Fincher's side over Giler's. After one particularly heated disagreement, Giler walked off the set, leaving his duties to producer John Landau.
Lance Henriksen only agreed to reprise his role as Bishop as a personal favor to Walter Hill. To this day, Henriksen has said he dislikes the film for its nihilistic themes.
---
Also, Alex Thomson was the final DP after the original was too sick to continue. Here's his obit:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2007/jul/05/guardianobituaries.obituaries2
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lolz all around!
I need to rewatch the first two. Haven't seen them in years. Also its funny the way Doom and Quake keep being brought up cos Doom was actually supposed to be based on the first two movies until the license fell through.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Henriksen has said he dislikes the film for its nihilistic themes"
so he then went off and made Millenium?
― akm, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
...so then he disavowed his career and spent the remainder of his years playing Van Helsing-esque characters in direct to video monster movies.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
seriously, that's all he ever does now.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
and Alien vs. Predator...
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol, was gonna say
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
well huh: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2093965/
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
And Scream 3.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:30 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
As a screenwriter Spaihts became known in the film industry as a "go-to-guy for space thrillers"[citation needed] when his science fiction romance Passengers was included on the 2007 Black List of unproduced high-value screenplays.[2] Keanu Reeves had hired Spaihts to write the film after originally becoming attached to Spaihts' now abandoned science fiction script Shadow 19.[3] After Reeves agreed to produce and star in Passengers,[4] Spaihts was commissioned by Scott Free Productions to write the next installments in the Alien saga, two prequel films to be directed by Ridley Scott for a release in 2012. Spaihts rewrote the alien invasion thriller The Darkest Hour for New Regency Productions[5] and worked on a film version of St. George and the Dragon for Sony Pictures Entertainment. As main screenwriter Spaihts is also attached to a Disney film project called Children of Mars. He is currently engaged in a two-picture deal at Bruckheimer Films.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Spaights wrote a pretty good spec script a few years ago called Shadow 19. It's got some cheesy dialog in it, but also some really neat sci-fi ideas in it. It reads like how Avatar would have been written by the younger, more R-rated James Cameron.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
So maybe he was the crazy idea guy, Lindelof is the script polisher, and Ridley is there to tell Lindelof what parts need rewrites and throw shit
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
So if you call **WEYLAND on your smartphone, you get the on-hold message from Weyland Industries, along with a text that has a link to a little Weyland commercial about their new androids.
― bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Cute trick.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
what's the number for tyrell corp
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
When ESPN gives you money to talk about whatever.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
And Empire frame-by-frames the US trailer
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wheres the shot of the Derelict winding up in the same position as first encountered later in the earlier film?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I rather suspect there isn't one.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
ugh that grantland piece
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was reading that thinking "You know, any one of us could have done better..."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
we could have done 'word at a time' collectively and done better
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wait, what's a Space Jockey? Do they go over that in the films?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wait, nvmd. Memory failure.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Space Jockey AKA The Pilot AKA The Big Dental Patient
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
AKA the disguised Predator
― bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
xxpost underpants iirc
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Gunna be pissed if the SJ we know & love turns out to be a mutated michael fassbender who climbs into the seat in the last scene before a chestburster erupts
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Then again, I like stories about xenoarcheology. I still hold that StarGate was a great movie up until the point they actually went thru the stargate.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha so true
― Summer Slam! (Ste), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like stories about xenodemocracy, i still hold that the star wars prequels were great when they were focused on senate proceedings
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Coming in late, but would have gone to see a 1979 Ridley Scott version of this...
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
lolol "John Thomas"
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
― bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
lolol "John Thomas had a most unusual pet..."
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
oo er
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
i totally want that multisaurus taxi thing tho
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
More SJ action, or rather a loop of the few frames we see in the trailer:
http://i.imgur.com/7ycQu.gif
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's what I mistook for chestbursting until I noticed the shoulder harness retracting
I do what I can to feed wild speculation and spread disinformation
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Good interviews with Fassbender and Lindelof: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/03/20/wondercon-scott-lindelof-and-fassbender-discuss-prometheus/
When they were asked if that film would veer further into Alien territory or explore new ground, Lindelof replied, “If we’re fortunate enough to be able to do a sequel to Prometheus, it will actually, I think, tangentialize even further away from the original Alien.”That being said, the filmmakers demonstrated they understand what fans are clamoring to see. “When you go to the concert that is this movie, you want the Stones to play ’Satisfaction,’” Lindelof said. “So there is this sense of us [the audience] saying, ‘We want you to do something new, Ridley, but just give us a little bit of ‘Space Jockey.’ C’mon, just play it — even in the encore!’”
That being said, the filmmakers demonstrated they understand what fans are clamoring to see. “When you go to the concert that is this movie, you want the Stones to play ’Satisfaction,’” Lindelof said. “So there is this sense of us [the audience] saying, ‘We want you to do something new, Ridley, but just give us a little bit of ‘Space Jockey.’ C’mon, just play it — even in the encore!’”
― bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
You mean til i disabused you of the notion Edward ;)
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
crazy that satisfaction is gonna play over the opening titles
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
(my take-away from that)
Ridley Scott stealing ideas from John Carpenter's "Starman" smdh
― bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
number none w/ the eagle eye
xps
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Cross posting this from The Thing thread:
This is one of my main apprehensions about Prometheus: that they'll succumb to idiot studio or fanboy pressure or something and do the medichlorian thing. Where they feel the need to over explain some thing irrelevant to the actual story and in doing so fuck up and ruin some of the core mystique or vibe that helped made the franchise interesting in the first place.
They're already treading on dangerous ground by having an entire flick dealing with the Derelict and the Space Jockey, two things that still have some coolness because of the awesome design mixed with us knowing fuckall about it.
So how do you thread that needle where you show a little to scratch the itch of necessary backstory or exposition to make the flick compelling without going overboard and over-explanatory? Hell, John Carpenter couldnt do this nowadays, can Ridley Scott? Hell, can any major 21st-C American summer blockbuster do this?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
im a bit skeptical.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
you're more than likely correct. Much like The Phantom Menace, the trailers will prove to be the best thing about the movie
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Right. I'm a massive Aliens fan and I'm just to the point of having a repeated internal chanted mantra of "please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck"
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
they shoulda Christoper Nolan amirite guys
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
shoulda got
they'll succumb to idiot studio or fanboy pressure or something and do the medichlorian thing
Studio my ass, that was 100% the director
― mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I pity any of you anticipating this movie. continually amazed at the capacity for people not to learn from things like the Star Wars prequels, Aliens vs. Predator, Watchmen, the vast majority of superhero movies, etc. studios don't know how to do these things well.
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, it's not like we were lined up outside skywalker ranch chanting for midichlorians
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, but it's fun to anticipate things and then trash them when they inevitably disappoint
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
i am anticipating because the previews look cool. i'm not worried about them fucking up whatever, cuz i'll always have alien and aliens no matter what. if this is anywhere near as good as those, i'll be happy. if not, well then all you naysayers get to say "told you so".
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jesus do you ever even READ the shit you post sometimes
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
I can't remember the last time a summer sci-fi blockbuster really met expectations. Star Trek reboot was pretty okay I guess... but the landscape is pretty barren.
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha xp
― catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
i am anticipating because the previews look cool. i'm not worried about them fucking up whatever, cuz i'll always have /alien/ and /aliens/ no matter what. if this is anywhere near as good as those, i'll be happy. if not, well then all you naysayers get to say "told you so".
this p much.
― catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
star trek reboot was a lot better than 'ok'
― less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah, it's really overrated
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
ShakeyMorbs
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
by whom xp
― less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just don't get the fanboy salivation/disappointment cycle, it's so "please sir may I have another!"
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Star Trek reboot was cool
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost IT'S ALL WE HAVE, SHAKEY
life is boring xp
― less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's more fun to get excited about stuff that looks cool than to be all *eyeroll* *replays Berlin Alexanderplatz*
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I can't remember the last time a summer sci-fi blockbuster really met expectations.
avatar?
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
expectation for avatar- blue ppl, shitty plot. expectations met.
― less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've never seen Avatar. It looked terrible
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
independence day?
― the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm sort of excited about this movie, despite thinking the idea of it is stupid. It doesn't really make sense to me that the xenomorphs are part of some crazy advanced civilization, directly or indirectly. They seemed an anti-civilizing force, like a powerful animal that is looking primarily to reproduce. It would almost make more sense if this was a prequel to Predator, which at least is about a very advanced civilization from the get-go. The xenomorphs are supposed to be scary space monsters.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i always wanted to see the Predators civilisation. Dudes just working in offices and whatnot
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Dark Knight.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
controversial
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
jesus christ was avatar horrible
I think Star Trek, Cloverfield, District 9, Rise of the Planet of the Apes... were any of those summer? Probably not, the big summer sci-fi ones that are science fiction by definition are the superhero ones.
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean, the ones that met expectations were ones without a lot of existing property baggage or a lot of hype
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Back to topic: the Weyland site just sent out links:
https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/information
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
well yes, it's easier to meet expectations when the expectations are lower
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
guess i'm the only avatar fan hereabouts. no surprise...
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, what does Predator heavy industry look like? Then again, if your only experience with Victorians were running into some mustached toffs in pith helmets on safari, how can you comprehend or extrapolate, say, Manchester from that?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
contenderizer braves new lands of opinions completely opposite to my own
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
eh, i think it's an opinion completely opposite to basically everybody everywhere at this point. haven't heard a kind word said about avatar by anybody in quite a while.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I probably won't see Prometheus with my mom like I did Avatar. So uh, I guess Avatar has that cross-market appeal.
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wait, is this going to be R or PG13?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
R I would assume
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Scott says he's going to PG-13 and R cuts and submit them to the studio. Wonder which one they'll pick?
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, fuck that. All four Alien films were R, at least.
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/faq?mode=desktop
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Number None, Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:03 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol the predators we see in the movies are basically yuppies acting out the alien version of deliverance
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
still not sure how looking forward to a film in a series (maybe) somehow also means that any disappointment will somehow register emotionally. if prometheus sucks, it's not going devalue the first two alien movies (don't care about three and four). it's just gonna be another bad movie nbd
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah exactly. it can't be any worse than than aliens vs predator 2.
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
I need to rewatch that, I feel like I wasn't able to absorb the full impact of the "aliens in the maternity ward" part
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah--I liked that, despite some hints that they existed, we never saw any 'other' aliens in the Alien films, and that the space jockey could well have been first contact for all we knew
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
to be fair avp2 was better than avp1, just as dengue is better than ebola
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
The big reveal will be that the entire universe has been wiped out by capital A aliens, and that earth is the only planet that has not yet succumbed.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:50 AM Bookmark Flag Post
Well the trailers answered that, didn't they
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think we should all wear small panties on opening day in solidarity
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
you will regret that, trust me
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
So far so good
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess a key to not hating this moviegoing experience will be not knowing or caring about what a space jockey is (most ppl don't)
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
this whole thread has me convinced that alien fandom is on the same level as SW fandom circa phantom menace. 1 + 2 are good movies but i had no idea people got fanboy obsessive over them.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
heh
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is a world where people earnestly get upset about changes to the "canon" in ninja turtle movies
― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess this one will be rated lower, i mean they'll be no aliens eating face will there. maybe an occasional face hugger and a chest burster? they rate these on gore value don't they?
― PSOD (Ste), Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also f-bombs.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
And panties.
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hieroglyphic evidence on ancient earth civilizations......ah-ha! The reason they're saying this isn't an Alien Prequel is that it's a Kingdom of the Crystal Skull sequel!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Stargate iirc
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's an adaptation of the Stargate Doom levels add-on.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
You're all forgetting the OG
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's the bible of alien archaeology bro
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
i know i just forgot there was a question mark in the title
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
The DaVinci Code?
so did i, actually
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
kinda changes how you have to say it when you speak the title out loud, it's not 'chariots of the gods' it's 'CHARiots of the GODS?'
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
seems there wasn't a question mark in the original German title tho. Guess the translators got shook
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wonder if the Daniken family gets any money from the History Channel these days.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Chariots? Of the Gods? Of Mars?
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Giger's original heiroglyph, linked for lolhueg-ness:
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/20287.jpg
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
God, I've always loved that thing. Each additional step is like LOL SURPRISE!
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's the modified version to include space jockey, this is the original original:
― ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
meant to link, oops
― ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Hey Steve, lie back, put your arms on your chest and close your eyes! LOL FACE RAPE!"
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's like the Alien equivalent of drawing dicks on someone's face when they pass out.
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is a Giger creation; drawing dicks is crucial to everything
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
not uninteresting: http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2008_01_01_archive.html
― ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Scott (Alien 30th Anniversary Edition):"I always wanted to go back and make an alien five or six. er,where we find out where they came from and go there, and answer the question 'who are they?' Mars, Mars is too close,so they can't be, they can't be gods of War, but the theory was, in my head was, this was, a... an aircraft carrier, a battle wagon, of a civilisation and the eggs were a cargo which were essentially weapons, (sorry) like a large form of bacteriological stroke biomechanoid warfare."
― ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
How do the two graphics differ, aside from the nameplate? I'm on my phone, I can't load up both at once
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
the man in the third panel looks more astronaut-y in the original
― goole, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
" They put them on all deep space vessels to watch for the discovery of key products. The company has found that under certain circumstances, crews refuse to bring back key products. A key product is any substance capable of changing the course of human evolution. The Alien is a key product. The Alien utilizes other species in this reproductive cycle. In so doing, it crosses itself with the host. "
^ this is kinda dope
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, I had forgotten how the early Web had an explosion of fan sites for this, and how we can still pick over the archeological debris left over:
http://ioannis.virtualcomposer2000.com/writing/Derelict.html
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
*backs slowly away from the rabbit hole*
― ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Too late!
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
moar rabbit hole
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
*alien bursts out of rabbit hole*
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Two recently departed creators who I hope get their due when this comes out: the late Dan O'bannon and Moebius.
Moebius did the suit designs, and Dan himself suggested the Derelict should look like "a lobster", amongst many other things
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Gives new meaning to the ancient Egyptian "Opening of the Mouth" ceremony.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Between Alien and Blade Runner, Scott sure made some films that obsessios like to obsess over... I never knew there was so much to talk about w/r/t the Alien universe!
And of course they're going to fuck up what 'the derelict' is -- its only ever really been defined in one's mind and those are always the most satisfying... It seems like there was a loose agreed-upon idea of some backstory that had to get shuffled around a bit. I love when production costs and script/set changes turn things into enduring mysteries that fans can argue over -- so much more interesting to me than intentional *mysteries* placed into films (like Pulp Fiction for example).
― Smith... Frobisher Smith. (Viceroy), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm, i'm not really expecting anything from the alien mythos retconning part of this, but i'm still hoping for a decent scary & visually impressive bit of SF.
― ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
To be fair, Blade Runner was adapted from a book that was part of the author's larger themes, and Alien was followed by a film(and notable stories in other media) that expanded on the original mysteries while retaining that same level of quality, even if the form of genre mutated slightly between releases
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Slightly off topic: does anyone here listen to the Superego comedy podcast?
They have an HR Giger character that's fucking hysterical
http://soundcloud.com/gosuperego/superego-episode-3-10 Skip to 14:00 = 'HR Giger' reading Twas the Night Before Christmas
"Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the pupil chamber, not a creature was stirring, not even a xenomorph creature that has been a ribtube with biogenetic narcogasms..."
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh yeah, that's Paul F Tompkins reading that, isn't it
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
yep!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'd not seen the close-up on this scene from the trailer until just now:
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
creepy...looks like it has two tails/limbs and umbilical cord
― Large Sack (Empty) (latebloomer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
fan service for tentacle enthusiasts
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol Phil
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
i just spent 10 minutes searching this thread for that link to some super long essay on the original alien ship/space jockey. can anyone help me?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
This one?http://alienexplorations.blogspot.co.uk/2008_01_01_archive.html
― Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes that seems to be it although like... differently formatted? odd.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
like click through
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
didn't post the exact right link but it's all broken up into various categories on there i think
― Number None, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh no what's going on there?
is somebody standing outside the tube, holding a mutant squid with a steel claw, menacing the person inside the tube w/ it?
― the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
im gonna guess no?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think the claw has extracted the mutant squid from the person's abdomen.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ that's what I'm seeing, caesarian squid
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
the person is still terrifiededly squirming though, i can't imagine that'd be the case if they were sedated and/or appropriately dead
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 30 March 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
thats what i'm saying
also not seeing any exit trauma
― the late great, Friday, 30 March 2012 04:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also not seeing a head or face
― Clive Palmer? 'E barely touched 'er! (James Morrison), Friday, 30 March 2012 04:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
obviously they found something with mutagenic effects and they're trying to create noomi rapace ninja squid
― mh, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
teenage mutant ninja squid
― the late great, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
man how great would it be if this actually was a prequel to Michael Bay's Ninja Turtles
― Number None, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Teenage Mutant Noomi Turtles
― jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
can't lie, kind of turned on by noomi/squid hybrid
― mh, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Number None, Friday, March 30, 2012 9:59 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://reverseshot.com/article/great_scott
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
ore fan art posters, if that's what you're into: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/check-out-12-awesome-fan-made-prometheus-posters
― DavidM, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
M
ast one is the best one, IMHO.
― StanM, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
L
no way. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8 (iffy) and 10 are the keepers. 12 is utterly generic. the one you posted half an hour ago might be my favorite.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like 1 alot. not sold on the yellow - but still pretty good.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
that last one is A+++++++++
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Last one is most generic, others are lacking a bit in polish but that one is too literal as a summary of the trailers.
― mh, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
fan art posters are teh worst
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
ppl love them some 70s graininess huh
― goole, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's also the color cast
― dayo, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
the american people in their wisdom are likely to look at a cannily "distressed" poster and wonder why this old piece of shit is on the wall of my theater
― goole, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
so that's successful design in a way...
a weird snapshot my friend took
― lag∞n, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
it should just read "ridley scott re-redefines a genre"
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Blair Alien Project: some astronauts were sent out and this is the movie that was found on the planet they visited. xpost
― StanM, Monday, 2 April 2012 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like the way the "artfully" distressed poster that davidm posted a ways back looks both cleanly contemporary and strongly reminiscent of a pulpy 50s sci-fi book cover. only needs a phallic, fin-standing rocketship in the background to fill out the "stephen soderberg's buck rogers" vibe.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 04:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
otoh, hate the "weird snapshot" version lagoon posted.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 04:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ridley Scott at the PROMETHEUS press conference — “Doing it in 3D was no problem at all. You don’t realize it, but we actually see things in 3D all the time. We just don’t realize it. You’ve got long sight and short sight, and together those two things make up 3D.”Scott has a great eye, but what exactly is it hooked up to?
Scott has a great eye, but what exactly is it hooked up to?
from http://dcairns.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/
― seven league bootie (James Morrison), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mind blown
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
You don’t realize it, but we actually see things in 3D all the time.
holy shit, that book look like it's COMING RIGHT AT ME!!!
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
THEY FLY @ U FACE
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
ty
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 02:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
it would suck to lose an eye and have to look at the world in 2d
― the late great, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 03:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alex Jones weighs in
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
of course he does
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
"its storyline, its plot, mirrors that of ancient civilizations"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
And btw, who the hell favorites videos just to go back and watch them to "laugh" at them? Thats nonsense and a waste of time. Why dont u just move on instead of trying to piss off genuine ppl interested in genuine truth from a genuine source?
MulcheBailey in reply to shookadro (Show the comment) 9 minutes ago
This top comment is gold. Hello! Welcome to youtube!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hmm...
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/04/05/new-prometheus-app-reveals-more-images-from-sci-fi-epic/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
What does it say on their cockpit screens?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Eat At Weyland Yutani"
― Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
(Actually the one on the lower right says "impact imminent," and way off through the viewport you can see the pred ship.)
― Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 6 April 2012 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
lolz
― Darin, Friday, 6 April 2012 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
i realized today that the space jockey is probably a predator queen
― the late great, Friday, 6 April 2012 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
hahaah
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 06:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
omg that bunny. srsly hope every element of that construction is 100% choklit.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 6 April 2012 06:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
picture with one person, shown from the back, looks like everything in that room is made up of the biological pods that gooey aliens pop out of
― mh, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
the trailer (in HD at the highest setting on You Tube) is easily the best *looking* trailer i've ever seen, it's unbelievable, even on a standard PC monitor.
― piscesx, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Imagine how unimaginably incredible it would be like in something incredible like 3D!
― StanM, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
picture with one person, shown from the back, looks like everything in that room is made up of the biological pods that gooey aliens naked charlize therons doing pushups pop out of
― the late great, Friday, 6 April 2012 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
hell yes
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 April 2012 16:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://io9.com/5901740/massive-collection-of-prometheus-stills-take-you-inside-ridley-scotts-new-spaceship/gallery/1
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
saw the trailer last night and it is like the greatest trailer in the history of the world ever, probably means the movie is awful.
― keythhtyek, Monday, 16 April 2012 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost love the how much the design draws from 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 16 April 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
noticed that same inception-style "horn of doom" noise when the giant dragon thing appears at the end of the avengers trailer
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 06:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
the horn of doom is in like 80% of all action/scifi trailers now
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 16 April 2012 07:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
"The Wilhelm Horn"
― StanM, Monday, 16 April 2012 07:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
love the how much the design draws from 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
I can't remember who the guy was, but there was an actual dude who did all this kinda design work. 2001, Alien, Space:1999. They also reference his stuff in "Moon"
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 16 April 2012 08:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ron Cobb was the main (non alien) concept guy for Alien, don't think he had anything to do with 2001 though.
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Monday, 16 April 2012 08:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
douglas trumbull was the main design/effects guy on 2001, and he also has credits on things like silent running, close encounters etc. as ledge sez, it was ron cobb who did most of the spaceship etc design on alien, w/ moebius designing things like the spacesuits.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 16 April 2012 08:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://io9.com/5902627/meet-michael-fassbender-the-android-in-this-new-prometheus-short-film
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
The fingerprint's a nice touch. Very Blade Runner-snake scale.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was fantastic
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
but kind of spooky for an advertisement
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's shown exclusively on the luxury box seat feed for Super Bowl CXVI
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Actually saying "unethical" was a bit much.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
ya
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well let's assume the future was won by Randian acolytes and 'ethics' are an amusing thing people participate in reenactment societies for, like Civil War battles and the like.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
god, that's like the creepiest Apple ad ever. A+
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meanwhile there's also this now:
http://io9.com/5902758/make-michael-fassbender-your-plaything-with-these-exclusive-prometheus-android-codes
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
that has renewed my hope
― owenf, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love his 'joy' face.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Re: Fassbender plaything
Confidence and Disgust are indistinguishable.
― The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 06:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well, the look & feel of everything seems to be good, & the cast is good enough. I'm just hoping the script is good enough to warrant any fanboy hope(mine or others).
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm going to pretend it is just some sci-fi action movie and hope there aren't any noisy dudes sitting behind me snorting and stage whispering about some comic books or novelizations or whatever dot com theories around some detail in the backround in one frame of alien^3
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
kind of wish there wasn't so much advertising material and fake commercials and shit
― mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Blame Lindelof.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm enjoying the fake commercials, but mostly because thy're content-free w/r/t the movie. I have the problem that I always do with trailers in that I usually enjoy the experience more having walked in without much foreknowledge.
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
the latest david commercial is p awesome. the TED talk was a little eye-rolling but still fun as a poitless teaser.
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
― mh, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol, confidence = disgust
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
remarkable similarities, at least if you understand german.
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Holy shit, dude's facial modeling is straight out of Oblivion
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
― GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ha, you just beat me to it. New international trailer y'all ^
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel like i've seen enough at this point
― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I still wonder a bit exactly how much they ARE giving away. I have this suspicion it's far less than it seems.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I lolled at this:
"it's an invitation"
"from whom?"
FROM RIDLEY SCOTT
― StanM, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hahahah good eye!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
mp4401 19 minutes ago 48
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
an invitation from ancient aliens, eh?
― Sébastien, Sunday, 29 April 2012 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
well I have no self-control
― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
another great trailer btw, though it does spoil the mystery
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah so I can't wait for this movie. Put me in cryosleep until it opens.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not watching anymore trailers. I'm there on opening weekend.
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Guy up thread in a few yearshttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1gf1Y2E22xI/S0YyddpnSZI/AAAAAAAAABw/iV8jjPGDIkM/s400/birkin.jpg
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 30 April 2012 02:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
wow that soundtrack is intense
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
music and effects have to be loud enough to keep audience awake
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 April 2012 02:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
yah especially old folks
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was a teenager when I saw Alien and it just barely worked
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― am0n, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Apparently, somewhere in this long interview the length of the movie is revealed: 119 minutes.
(french introduction, the rest is in english, about 3 minutes in)
― StanM, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
For those inclined:
http://io9.com/5906286/shot+for+shot-break-down-of-all-the-new-alien-monsters-in-ridley-scotts-prometheus/gallery/1
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was just coming to post that.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Goddamn I love a good face melt
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
HOT HOT HOT
― the late great, Monday, 30 April 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Closed my eyes when this was on before Avengers.
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe im a particularly suspicious soul, but this level of marketing generally bespeaks a less than awes movie.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Eh
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
im perhaps being solipsistic but ive been assailed with marketing for this thing in a way that seems quite excessive, which leads me to surmise that reviews and word of mouth for this will be poor, but they've decided to throw a great amount of money at marketing in order to achieve respectable numbers regardless. this pet theory may of course be bunkum. i tend to be often wrong.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
as least they have flamethrowers
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
assailed with marketing for this thing in a way that seems quite excessive
I feel kind of the opposite of this, I've barely heard about this movie outside of this thread! Haven't been to a theater in a while, though.
― C.C. Sabbathian of the Doom York Yankees (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
The quality of the movie has nothing to do with the size of the marketing campaign. That's generally determined by the budget. The only way, I think, to determine the quality of a film solely from its marketing campaign is to look at the TV spots the week before and after it is released.
― GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, the only adverts for this I've seen are internet stuff; mainly bits popping up here or on FB or io9 or something.
Oh, and the trailer before Sherlock Holmes. That was it.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
SPOILERS OMG
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Friday, 11 May 2012 10:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
It got an R rating, good on Fox for not shooting for PG-13.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 11 May 2012 13:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Clip of landing spaceship!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b0KdRc7jBgY
Short commercial with 'in a world...' type voiceover guy but also some more gross bits!
http://io9.com/5910562/new-prometheus-tv-spot-shows-the-many-ways-this-crew-is-doomed
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think the only question left at this point for any sci fi fan who's been watching the trailers is whether the planet is lv426 or not
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Glad they're keeping it nice and yucky.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
man, i get the googlies just thinking about this shit
anyway, opening shot in that trailer looks a bit too "digital" for my tastes, esp the "prometheus" and weyland logo branding. suppose they'll refine that for release?
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah that clip's been severely edited down. The Prometheus logo's superimposed (I guess they think anybody watching the clip is too dumb to realize that the ship is called Prometehus).
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
― the late great, Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:49 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, it's hard to tell. It looks like a different planet, but the big ringed gas giant in the background of some of the shots seems to give away that it's at least in the same system. The alien spaceship crashing in the trailers is clearly of the same type as the derelict from the first movie, but whether it's the exact same one is hard to tell. I kinda hope it isn't. I'd rather this story be more self-contained.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
there's clip somewhere were ridley scott says the system is zeta (2) reticuli which is the one mentioned in alien, so...
― DG, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
i didn't realize lv426 was in zeta reticuli, that would seem to nail it down then
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
LV-223?
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
looks like it
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
starts on lv-223, ends on lv-426, with a hazily-remembered detour on lv-420 along the way
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
i must say this bald dude looks like a pretty lame substitute for an alien
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
i know. this is such an elaborate way to reboot the Kojak franchise.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
re: bald villians i feel like bane looks pretty damn lame too, can't believe they didn't go with the riddler
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe it's just zombie Picard.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
locutus of borg
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
difficult listening hour suggested "locutus of cat" as a pet name on this thread, and now i can no longer conceive of it as the name of an awful space villain. i only hear the "cute" part. locutus! i want to hug you and squeeze you and smush you little cutus face!
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
wasn't it lolcuetest?
― the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
I AM LOLCUETEST OF BORG!
got imax tickets for june 5. stoked while at the same time thinking the amazing collision of scott, o'bannon, giger, cobb, giler, hill, weaver, and the hundred other personnel and just random factors that made alien the phenomenon it is can't possibly be repeated.
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah definitely.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's like wondering if the new coppola film will be as good as the godfather. I'm psyched for this too but do ppl really think this is going to be anywhere near the same level as alien?
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
this might not be the level of alien3
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meantime, an 'origins featurette,' with Ridley talking about things etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LXHC_HOg7FA
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
amazing collision of scott, o'bannon, giger, cobb, giler, hill, weaver, and
Goldsmith!
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zwEtldZQNew
Noomi Rapace takes Weyland Corp's empathy test ("We call it Voight-Kampf for short").
Have to hand it to the Alien: Episode 1 marketing dept for their world-building advertising campaign.
― DavidM, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meantime, new interview with Ridley about things:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/17/ridley-scott-opens-up-about-prometheus-kick-ass-women-and-blade-runner-2.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
For Prometheus, I came back to a very simple question that haunted me that appears in the first Alien, and no one answered in subsequent Alien films: who was the ”Space Jockey”—the big guy in the seat? If you really go into that, it becomes the basis for a pretty interesting story. When I went to the studio, we didn’t know if it was going to be a sequel or a prequel.
this whole approach makes me think that somewhere someone feels compelled to make a film explaining the presence of the watermelon in the lab in Buckaroo Banzai
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
so stupid
i would gladly pay to see a movie about the watermelon in buckaroo banzai
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
the idea that one might want to explore the questions posed by the space jockey, the wrecked ship and its biological cargo doesn't seem at all odd to me.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Agreed w/latebloomer
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
If its a compelling story, go for it.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
btw the watermelon mystery has long been solved.
The following explanation was written by the director of the 1984 docudrama, W.D. Richter, for the April 1986 edition of the World Watch 1 Newsletter: "I can only imagine Buckaroo trying to grapple with this question. When cornered (as I feel now), he often quotes H.L. Mencken's nasty remark about how every complex question always has a simple answer...that is usually wrong. But it is high time poor New Jersey's honest inquiry be answered. Let me rephrase the question first one way, then another. "Why is a watermelon trapped between those monstrous pressure plates deep within the Institute's Critical Stress Laboratory?" Team Banzai botanical agronomists have been for years hard at work on the problem of hunger in Third World countries under constant revolutionary turmoil. A nonpolitical, humanitarian effort, their goal has been to find ways to feed starving peoples in remote areas where traditional food delivery systems prove woefully inadequate. Often, the only way to get the nourishment into the bellies of the needy is to hit and run, avoiding all petty ideological side-taking. What you see in the Critical Stress Lab is a revolutionary watermelon capable of withstanding impact pressures of 300,000 pounds per square inch! Sweet, juicy and vitamin-packed, this remarkable fruit can be dropped from the bomb bays of low-flying aircraft into the backyards of disenfranchised villagers in the remotest backwaters of this angry planet. Just another Team Banzai effort to cut through all the unnecessary crap around us and help people help themselves. Look for high-impact, low cholesterol eggs next... and sooner than you think, shatter-proof whole-wheat taco shells.
― The Painter of Blight™ (Sanpaku), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
so that's what eggs in alien were: food relief for backwater planets!
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
buckaroo banzai against the world crime league is the chinese democracy of cult sci fi
― the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
interesting questions, not answers, are what make movies like alien good. unless you mean the answer to, "will they all die,' which is, "mostly."
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, *sob*
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
interesting questions, not answers, are what make movies like alien good
^^^
this movie looks like a bunch of stupid answers
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
well sure, but in answering any one question (the typical sequel punctures the obvious "and then what happened?" question-bubble), you open a bunch of others. hopefully.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean, lord of the rings as a whole is an incredibly overelaborate answer to the questions posed by the hobbit, but that doesn't make it inferior or a story that should never have been told.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I'm desperately hoping for a compelling story that is not a fill-in-the-blanks for the fanboys deal
and I'm optimistic
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
lord of the rings as a whole is an incredibly overelaborate answer to the questions posed by the hobbit
never really thought of LOTR this way tbh. maybe Tolkien did, I dunno.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't see how it can be particularly compelling, precursor aliens who genetically engineered humans and aliens as biomechanical drones is pretty established ideas
― the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
i do kinda feel LOTR was a step backwards from the hobbit. hobbit feels like jimmy carter. LOTR feels like reagan.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
the late great OTM. if anything this just looks like a retread of Lovecraft ideas.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
is are etc
i mean established both as generic sci fi and established in terms of the alien franchise
― the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
what i'm interested in is seeing people's helmets melt onto their face and whimpering in the face merciless nonhuman killers
― the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
expect i'll get my $$$ worth
jesus shakey, be a little more negative about this why don't you?
it's not like jessica pare is in it
― goole, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
where does the silmarillion fit in
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
if anything this just looks like a retread of Lovecraft ideas.
as far as summer blockbusters go, i'll take a lovecraft retread over just about anything else
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was looking forward to this movie until the Lost thread was revived. :/
Pray we don't end up with a classical/rock fusion band.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ me too!
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think there's any Hellboy coming out this year
― mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hellboy III: The Dark Knight Rises
― StanM, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
you know, people got on me about being pessimistic about the Star Wars prequels, Watchmen, etc. too
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Avatar too
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
expecting would-be blockbusters to suck probably scores a much higher predictive accuracy ratio than expecting them to be good
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
nevertheless...
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
there is some weird abusive husband:beaten wife::Hollywood:blockbuster audience type dynamic at work that I'm always sort of mystified to witness
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
"this time it will be different! he promised! also he made a viral youtube campaign!"
he hit me and it felt like an 8 dollar bucket of buttered popcorn
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
if you hadn't been so pessimistic, those movies would have been better. they never had a chance.
thanks for ruining everything, shakey
― mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol contenderizer
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
"where does the silmarillion fit in"newt's contract with america
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
You said Newt on an Alien thread and you didn't mean the little girl! This is like kinda wow.
― StanM, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
poor noot :(
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
mostly
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
is the actress who played newt dead? these kid actors all seem to have high mortality rates.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah she just went on to be a normal person
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Aliens was her only movie!
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe i'm thinking of kid from exorcist
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
The little girl from Poltergeist was the one who died
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_(film_series)#The_Poltergeist_curse
― the late great, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5mKh5AzGhKs&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avpgalaxy.net%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D43519.0
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh that must be it! i wonder if spielberg would do a poltergeist movie about the curse like wes craven's new nightmare.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Newt became a teacher IRL!
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 18 May 2012 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 18 May 2012 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
weird ass
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey i linked to that earlier :-/
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
thirst for "First!"
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
yt links only embed when you scrape out the extra bits
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 18 May 2012 04:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
my head is burning!!! get me a coors!!!!!
― the late great, Friday, 18 May 2012 05:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
this and the coke zero/battleship commercials have got me thinking that they should bring the crass tie-in shit to the next level and make the products major elements of the movie's plot. the aliens in battleship are coming for coke zero! the secret of prometheus is coors! etc.
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Friday, 18 May 2012 05:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
like, the crew basically discovers an alien brewery
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Friday, 18 May 2012 06:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
c'mon this writes itself
its all just a board game coora got spilled on dont u see
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 May 2012 06:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
I bet a facehugger treatment does wonders for wrinkles and pores.
― StanM, Friday, 18 May 2012 08:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Hollywood Reporter interviews Scott, concept art, quotes, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also this overview of Scott's production companies contains a tidbit I'd missed:
Among upcoming projects: The Man in the High Castle, a BBC miniseries that returns Scott to sci-fi author Philip K. Dick
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love this insane detail:
Now Lindelof was ushered by the director to a building adjacent to Scott's sleek Los Angeles offices. "Ridley walked me up a stairwell, and there was a great big metallic vault door," recalls Lindelof. "It was a foot thick with some kind of locking apparatus, and he opened it carefully." Inside was a beehive of activity. "He introduced me to production designer Arthur Max and four 20-year-olds sitting at computers, designing stuff."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Arthur Max is yet another guy with a hell of a resume, it looks like.
― mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am so hyped but everything about this seems specifically, scientifically designed to let me down. PLEASE DON'T SUCK.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I should watch Body of Lies and Robin Hood as a baseline for what recent-year Ridley Scott is like. The last film of his that I saw was American Gangster, which was pretty OK.
― mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's some spoilery stuff in the interview, obv, but I suspect you've already made your decision about whether to learn more or not about the film.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Phil otm, I really don't want this to suck
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm going to be an optimist. Prometheus is going to rule! That way, if it sucks, at least I had the pleasure of anticipation. Who wants to waste one's time poo-pooing or nailbiting over some summer blockbuster that hasn't come out?
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
I remain excited but I'm trying not to read too much about it so I don't get pre-bummed out, should there be anything to get bummed out about. It's a delicate balance.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
So jealous that the UK is getting this a week early
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm gonna have to avoid the internet for a week come June 1st
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm going to be on vacation! It's like a built-in spoiler buffer.
― mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Someone re-cut a trailer from the original 'Alien' into the modern style. I love it when people do this; I like contrast trailer styles.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Sunday, 27 May 2012 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
i would pay to go see that movie
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Sunday, 27 May 2012 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 May 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
trailer for this movie is fucking insane
― flopson, Sunday, 27 May 2012 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've got tickets for the midnight showing this Thursday. Really hope it's going to be worth it.
― DavidM, Monday, 28 May 2012 04:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
if any of you are crazy for alien's production design, one of the guys who worked on it has a 5-part documentary all about the making of it, with tons of detail on costuming, sets, props, etc:
http://www.zen171398.zen.co.uk/
Alien Makers parts 1-5 are what you want
― Hungry4Ass, Monday, 28 May 2012 12:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Please stop bumping this thread so that I am not tempted to click on this thread. Thanks!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 May 2012 12:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
opening in the uk a week before the usa...
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 28 May 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok! (xpost)
― StanM, Monday, 28 May 2012 13:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
All joking earlier in the thread re: 3D aside though - is there a way I'll know beforehand if this 3D thing will work for me? Still haven't seen a 3D movie and I, well, I kinda wanna know what it's like. This looks like something I might go and see in the cinema (haven't been since the last LOTR movie, to be honest, but this and the batmang thingy may possibly get me to break my waiting-until-the-DVD/bluray-comes-out habit).
― StanM, Monday, 28 May 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
do you lack general depth perception abilities?
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 28 May 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
ouch
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 28 May 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've never heard about 3d not working for anybody. not like those fucking magic image posters...
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
My brother has bad vision in one eye and 3D doesn't work for him
― Number None, Monday, 28 May 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
astigmatism can bugger it up.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 28 May 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
No, not usually, but I know people who've had to leave because of headaches/shit just not being in focus for them etc. - I wear contacts (slight myopia) so I wondered.
― StanM, Monday, 28 May 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
(No = general depth perception problems)
I have to wear the damn things over my glasses. Not fun
― Number None, Monday, 28 May 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fwiw, this movie was at least filmed in 3-D, rather than converted after the fact, which is more than most these days and which from experience generally results in a better experience.
i've never heard about 3d not working for anybody.
There actually are some people who can't discern the effect, just like there are some people who are colorblind.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I imagine this will be a pretty good option for a first 3D viewing alright
― Number None, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.vision3d.com/whycant.html
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Until they make 3-D glasses that fit comfortably over and work well with prescription eyeglasses, I am manifestly Not Interested in 3-D. The one time I've tried it, I hated it.
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Monday, 28 May 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
It doesn't matter anyway, it's as much of a gimmick as it ever was, and the ticket sales show it. A good director and DP know how to use the size and pereived depth of the screen and their sets or locations to create what they want.
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Monday, 28 May 2012 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
3d is dumb, everyone knows
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
When I try out one of those plastic blue/red 3D glasses and I look at some of the 3D stuff online it sometimes kinda works and sometimes it just doesn't.e.g. this one works immediately: http://www.bfoto.ru/news/wp-content/uploads/IMG_3131.jpgbut this one only after focusing for a while: http://www.bfoto.ru/news/wp-content/uploads/3d_foto_anaglif_13.jpg
Meh. I'll just go and see the 2D version.
― StanM, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I agree it's dumb and it won't last, but I kinda want to see what I've been hating instinctively all this time :-/
― StanM, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have never seen a 2D version of something that I wished was in 3D when I was watching, and have never seen a 3D movie in which I thought the 3D was essential (save "Avatar," which was like a test reel for the format, and the Herzog, ironically, which needed the effect to depict the depth of the cave paintings). In fact, I actively seek out 2D screenings when possible. That said, I don't have a problem with the 3D, aside from a little extra dimness to the image.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
i have prescription glasses and never had any problems with it
that said i haven't seen anything in 3d that didn't seem like a gimmick except "avatar" which i thought was actually pretty impressive and seamless
― the late great, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://realorfake3d.com/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
nu 3D is great, love it to death, always see the 3D version if i get a chance
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
3D has fans, but it was chiefly just a gimmick by the studios to force theaters to upgrade to digital projection. Now, just about all of them have and there are fewer and fewer 3D films released every year.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm not sure it was that fiendishly conspiratorial, but yeah, that does seem to have been the effect
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's actually a genius gimmick. Digital projection means no film costs. 3D glasses means a ticket upcharge. And best of all, 3D screenings can't be videotaped and pirated (though that security has been undone by 2D screenings).
Is it just me, or did that much feared "Phantom Menace" 3D redux come and go without much fanfare?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Pretty much
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 28 May 2012 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'd like to see this in 2D but the only showing in my neighborhood are at like 12:45 in the afternoon
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 May 2012 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
showingS
the weird thing about the phantom menace 3d was the number of scenes of people standing around talking blandly about things that were rendered in eye-popping 3d vs. the number of action sequences that weren't.
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Someone re-cut a trailer from the original 'Alien' into the modern style.
I have to admit it makes Alien look even lamer than it was.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Original Alien trailer as much a masterpiece as the movie.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
love og Alien trailer, maybe my alltime favorite
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Didn't know this was going to be 3-D, ugggh. Have to find a run-down old theater that'll show it in 2-D.
― strictly shitty piano rock underground (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
boo, traitor to the future you pay to witness
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
aaaaaaand the original trailer
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
IF we're lucky, the person who typed this review for Cabin in the Woods will also cover this flick for all our edification's sake.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel like I must watch that film, then read that review, as it looks amazing.
― mh, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
there are some slowed-down HD trailers on youtube, good fun
― the late great, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
MH, you totally need to see that flick
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think it's only playing in one theater near home and may be gone by the time I return :(
― mh, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Do whatever you can to see it in a theater with people
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
breaking news: kingfish advocates kidnapping itt
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
thursday night midnight in imax 3d one mile from my house, but looks like they're not doing presale? i can't take thursday AND friday off!
― the late great, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm on call for work until next tuesday, cinema will have to wait.
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Note: I also heavily recommend seeing Cabin in the Woods
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Prometheus is out in Belgium (and France and Switzerland) today! Except, I can't go see it b/c of this work/on call thing I got.
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Today? WTF I'm buying a plane ticket.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm: prepare the beer and waffles, I am coming for u, Belgium
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
i just realized how badly I want to see this
I hope the French screenings have a dedication to Moebius at the end
― I only dream in Infrared. (kingfish), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
WTF @ Italy : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/releaseinfo
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Full dubbing, I guess.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Why even bother, the torrent sites will have a dvd quality copy available for download by the time it hits theaters there.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
but the Italian-Swiss get it a month earlier.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Прометей Bulgaria (imdb display title) (Bulgarian title) / RussiaðÒÏÍÅÔÅÊ Ukraine (imdb display title)Prometej Croatia (imdb display title)Prometejas Lithuania (imdb display title)Prometeo Mexico (imdb display title)Prometeusi Georgia (imdb display title)Prometeusz Poland (imdb display title)Prometheus Hungary (imdb display title)Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen Germany (imdb display title)Promitheas Greece (imdb display title)
― goole, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
That Ukranian should be Прометей as well, according to Google Translate
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Can we change the thead title to ðÒÏÍÅÔÅÊ please? :D
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen
^ space beer
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seeing this tomorrow. Can't wait
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
take me with u?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't care where you go
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Պրոմեթեւս ಪ್ರಾಮಿಥೀಯಸ್ પ્રોમિથિયસ பிரோமேதியஸ் ప్రోమేతియస్ (Armenian, Kannada, Gujarati, Tamil, Telugu)
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
A visual representation of what your insides look like after the aliens are done with you. < / ethnocentrism >
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
01010000011100100110111101101101011001010111010001101000011001010111010101110011
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
I demand hieroglyphs
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol Stan
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
(no idea, this is what http://www.quizland.com/hiero.mv says it is)
oh, it's all the sounds one after another, no lil dude with a torch and stuff :-(
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
so early consensus is it kinda stinks
http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-ridley-scott-and-prometheus/
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's not what I'm reading there but ok
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Everyone but Dr. Morbius will love it."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
rotten tomatoes has it at 89% positive based on 9 reviews, but some of those "positives" are pretty carefully hedgedmetacritic, otoh, has it scoring only 63 of 100 possible points based on 4 reviewsimdb hasn't opened it to user reviews
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
the B in IMDB doesn't stand for Belgium, then.
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Gah. Removing bookmark from this thread.
― the conch is a well worn copy of the AD&D Fiends Folio (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, the reviews have been pretty mixed so far. To be honest, that's probably better for schmucks like me who let themselves get overhyped. Lowered expectations can be a good thing for movies like this.
― promethethem (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Okay, Ponies is gone, what's the movie REALLY like?
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
"what may be most interesting about this particular campaign is the emphasis on reevaluating, or perhaps more to the point, demanding appreciation for Ridley Scott as an auteur—the sort of appreciation many cinephiles would be more willing to grant his brother, Tony."
what the shit, who the hell thinks this?
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tony Scott, darling of cinephiles
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tony Scott, cinema's top gun
― promethethem (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
actually many cinephiles i know do sorta think this
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
you can certainly make way more of a case for TS in the last 25 years than his brother.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Holy crap - just going through the TV channels here and Club RTL (TV station from Luxembourg) is playing Alien at the moment. Notable details: there's a "HD" logo on screen (right next to RTL's logo) but this is the most low definition version I've ever seen, forget about the DVD and BluRay remaster/reissues, this looks hardly better than VHS. Oh, and it's dubbed in French. Oh, and in French, it's "Alien - Le Huitième Passager"
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
("the eighth passenger")
? those quotes from early reviews are hardly glowing, most of them are negative
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rorschach tomatoes
― promethethem (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
True enough. Over the weekend I was home; one evening my mom noticed Kingdom of Heaven was on and watched it, first time I'd seen it myself. It's technically accomplished, very well shot, but was otherwise felt pretty flat, besides Edward Norton acting behind a mask as a leper (so, a documentary).
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
"not as imaginative as Alien" is p damning from my chair
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah my expectations for this are loooooooooow
the odds of someone coming out of a 25-year career slump to make a decent (to say nothing of great) film strictly because of the tangential relation of the material to something previously great are, um, not good.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
OTM, this sucking wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also seeing tomorrow, tho.
I mean I guess it's probably happened but I'm at a loss for precedents
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was p good 'rizer
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
had no idea R Spiralli was still alive tho
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am treating this like any other big budget serious sci-fi film i.e. I'll watch it just because but expectations are low
that said I am intrigued by this observation in the guardian review: In place of scariness there is wonderment
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
wonderment = avatar
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
in place of scariness there is avatar
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:49 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark
ironic appreciation of tony scott has definitely been on the rise in recent years (myself included), but very few people are prepared to make a serious argument for a reassessment of his work. i guess that could easily change if enough of a consensus builds up...
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Armond probably likes Tony Scott, right?
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait he probably hates Denzel though
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
never change, Armond
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
this thread is going to kill my dreams like the Community thread did, isn't it. Just tell me now, it's cool
I don't want this movie to suck ;_;
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
"unstoppable", "true romance" and "crimson tide" are all pretty well regarded, both by critics and fans. not much else of note though. he's made quite a few tough-guy action thrillers, and that kind of genre consistency appeals to "reappraising" auteurist types.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Last Boy Scout is a better brainless POS than True Romance.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
what i really want to know is what do dr morbius and shakey think about this movie
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think.... they love it
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tomorrow, Imax, South Bank, industry screening. I've never been to the Imax before; apparently I should go "as high up and as far back as possible". That sounds rude, sorry.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tony Scott is very highly regarded in mirrors/feathers/gunfire spheres
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
imax? That's like seeing it in 4D!
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
IT'S LIKE GOING TO SPACE
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I should probably get my optic nerves rewired or something - I'm not sure I have the visual bandwidth for this.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
I need to get a space helmet and breathing apparatus
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
oops not I = u need to
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:18 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is that the chair from which you think "Alien" is a boring, overrated snoozefest?
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean just let us know which side you're playing here so we know exactly how much to ignore you.
Morbius in his chair
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Part of the reason the Tony Scott movies of the 2000s are disliked by many—and intensely loved by others—is the total lack of "big" gestures in his current approach to directing. These movies consist entirely of small moments, off-the-cuff images, strung together into something massive yet lacking an "obvious" grand design. No big plans, just hidden smiles. This makes Scott a harder sell than similarly-concerned directors like Michael Mann, who anchors his intuitive moments to grand ones, or Claire Denis, who presents them as the directorial gestures that they are. The party line on Scott is that he's an "empty stylist," a man who makes "technically accomplished" and therefore insubstantial films with too much editing. On the one hand, I probably wouldn't be here defending Scott if his movies consisted of shots that ran for minutes instead of seconds; on the other hand, I wouldn't think they were worth defending if that were true.You've probably figured this one out: I don't intend to brush off Scott's style, nor am I going to defend it as candy, as sugary, calorie-free style, as "pure color" or "style-for-the-sake-of-style-get-over-it-and-have-some-fun-why-don't-you." Scott's recent films are beautiful, but beauty is not a question of surfaces (contrary to the old saying, it's "prettiness" that's merely skin-deep). I am here to defend the substance and morality of Scott's recent films, and a defense of the recent Scott is, at its core, a defense of his editing: the jitters, the saccades, the 250 BPM intercutting, crashing and burning that are integral to the hidden-in-plain-view heart of Scott.
You've probably figured this one out: I don't intend to brush off Scott's style, nor am I going to defend it as candy, as sugary, calorie-free style, as "pure color" or "style-for-the-sake-of-style-get-over-it-and-have-some-fun-why-don't-you." Scott's recent films are beautiful, but beauty is not a question of surfaces (contrary to the old saying, it's "prettiness" that's merely skin-deep). I am here to defend the substance and morality of Scott's recent films, and a defense of the recent Scott is, at its core, a defense of his editing: the jitters, the saccades, the 250 BPM intercutting, crashing and burning that are integral to the hidden-in-plain-view heart of Scott.
http://soundsimages.blogspot.com/2010/12/scotts-metaphysical-romances-pt-1.html
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
first time a Scott has been contrasted w/ C Denis?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'll be honest and say her work isn't the first that comes to mind when watching Domino.
My problem with most of Ridley's work since his career resurrection is his insistence on trying to recapture the corny glories of Gladiator. A Good Year aside - easily one of the worst movies of the last decade, despite it's train-wreck watchability - I think the bigger efforts have had good elements to them, but crowd-pleasing over-sentimentality always gets in the way. Robin Hood is awful, but mostly because of how much he gets right and then squanders it time and time again with a terrible screenplay and absolutely no understanding of how to match the visuals with the hokey, focus-grouped story. Early reviews of this are disappointing, but if you're not chock full of trepidation going into a Ridley Scott film at this point, you're probably a deranged optimist. I'm just hoping the film embraces the grimness and doesn't have a bunch of (wonderfully costumed) kids on ponies charging onto a battlefield.
I'll rep for the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven though.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Matchstick Men" an underrated Ridley detour, featuring one of the last times Nic Cage acted, along with "Lord of War."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
I always forget about that one. It was solid from what I remember.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh dear, it's kind of a shrug
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
thank you, genuine lols at this
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
and i might as well say, considering it cost 1 trillion dollars this was the most poorly planned and executed scientific mission of all time
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
damnit not only are my expectations rapidly plummeting, i'm now feeling bad about dragging along my flatmate who only saw alien a couple of months ago.
― the fey monster (ledge), Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'd recommend seeing it in 2D as well. Things get pretty murky
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
How do you think it would hold up for an 8-year-old boy?
― how's life, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's some pretty disgusting imagery. I wouldn't recommend it
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, disgusting isn't really the issue. I'm more concerned about it's ability to hold his attention. He's been sorta stoked for it following the trailer.
― how's life, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
well it's not exactly a thrill a minute. It feels a bit aimless at times actually
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hmmmm...doesn't sound promising.
― how's life, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Bah. Aliens is idle for long stretches, and that movie is awesome. We as a collective culture need to work on our attention spans, people!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
this isn't Aliens dude. Far from it
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
He liked Aliens, from what I hear (watched it with his mother - lol), but even when it's slow, it's pretty compelling.
― how's life, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://thequietus.com/articles/08946-prometheus-ridley-scott-review <- "Then there's the penis problem."
― DG, Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
"So disembodied has the fervour become from the brilliantly original, stylish and adorably camp 1979 flick that the gods themselves couldn't forge a spectacle gaudy enough deep in the womb of Mordor, or wherever it is nerds think babies come from, to meet these expectations. "
Didn't need to read past this to know this is not a writer whose opinions I am interested in hearing.
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
wtf
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
I didn't make it very far into Alien but nothing about that movie reads as "adorably camp" unless 70s hairdos send you into an uncontrollable tizzy
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
and he can git tae fuck with that Mordor taunting
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
also waiting til the last paragraph to say 'there is much to praise about the movie' and then do a big handwavy oh the cast the visuals etc
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
thing is, most of the positive reviews seem to basically be oh the cast the visuals stretched out over a number of paragraphs
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
well if this stinks then I may have to put Ridley in the same column as John Carpenter; love you to death thank you but your services are no longer required
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
taking an 8yo to this movie seems insane imho
when I saw the Avengers in the theater recently they showed the trailer for this ahead of it and it made the younger kids in front of me burst into horrified tears
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Like I said, he's seen Aliens. We've watched a few R-rated flicks together. I do a pretty good job screening out stuff I'd be uncomfortable with him seeing.
― how's life, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
But has he seen Alien?
The 2nd one I would have been much more comfortable at a younger age. Big scary screeching monsters get blown the fuck up with awesome guns.
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
In related news, Aliens: Colonial Marines got pushed back again til next February.
Apparently they're making a Wii U version, which will finally give you a reason to have that second screen, I guess.
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien was a horror film. AlienS was a boom boom action film.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Prometheus is ?
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
TBA
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was a statement, not a question
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
So disembodied has the fervour become from the brilliantly original, stylish and adorably camp 1979 flick that the gods themselves couldn't forge a spectacle gaudy enough deep in the womb of Mordor...What has always bothered me about Alien is that it started a trend in cinema that said a carefully selected crew of engineers and scientists for a highly sensitive mission could in fact be a bunch of loutish idlers.
What has always bothered me about Alien is that it started a trend in cinema that said a carefully selected crew of engineers and scientists for a highly sensitive mission could in fact be a bunch of loutish idlers.
this fuckwit has never seen alien
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, wtf?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't mind ppl giving movies bad reviews but I wish there was some kind of physical punishment for making up stupid bullshit about source material they've never seen
harrumph
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Prometheus" picks up where "Star Wars" left off, with the death of Spock and the resurrection of the Last Starfighter and the resumption of the quest for another dimension that hearkens back to the original.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
loool
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Aliens was great but it was too dinosaury for my liking
I went to the midnight screening of this. It was... interesting. The 3D is really good. And I'm no fan, I'm really not, but the 3D was really effective in this, I thought. It's a beautifully designed film; the suits, the ship, the interiors. Just great to look at. It's the kind of thing to have playing on a loop on a massive screen in your stylish apartment. The Chariots of the Gods stuff was bunk, naturally, but it somehow didn't matter too much. It didn't ruin my enjoyment, anyway. It's neither the haunted horror of Alien, or the sleek action fest of Aliens - nor whatever the other films were meant to be - it it is a decent, very flawed but wonderfully atmospheric, SF film. Tired now. Very tired.
― DavidM, Friday, 1 June 2012 02:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
That Quietus review is just awful.
Ugh.
― Millsner, Friday, 1 June 2012 03:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Didn't go in the end. Gave my ticket away and went home and watched the latter stages of Mathieu-Isner with my girls instead, all of us speaking faux-French in support of Paul-Henri.
Too much like work outside of work.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 1 June 2012 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also: ill.
i get the feeling having wiki-spoiled this for myself [via no self-control] i ought to save my hard-unearned cash, looks pretty lame
― DG, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm waiting until the porn parody is released.
― StanM, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
pornmetheus? prometheass? promelingeus? promidgeteus?
― StanM, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
pornintheass, i'm guessing
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 1 June 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
This Ain't Prometheus
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 1 June 2012 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
probemetheus
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 1 June 2012 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
you guys, really.
Prom Eat The Ass
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2012 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Where The Humans Aren't
― StanM, Friday, 1 June 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
this was incredibly disgustingly bad and stupid and awful
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
so... should we see it?
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm going in with my Tim Burton's Planet Of The Apes mindset. Just focus on the art direction. Ignore all else.
― but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
it looked very good and it was woeful
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
was the 3d ridiculously dark?
― Number None, Friday, 1 June 2012 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
blogger Jeff Wells: "impressively composed and colder than a witch's boob in Siberia"
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
stupid trailer making me excited stupid ilx stupid ridley
hmph
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lindelof seems to be taking most of the heat, which is no doubt deserved. Still, Ridley did hire him
― Number None, Friday, 1 June 2012 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
STUPID LINDELOF
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's being politely panned on bbc2 now
― DG, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fuckin Lindelof making sure the 26th ridley scott film in a row was dumb!
― but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
This was great, btw.
― DavidM, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'd genuinely like to hear from someone who loved it
― Number None, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes please god
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
friends who've seen it told me it was bollocks at best
― korea opportunities (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 June 2012 01:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
"... best" say noodles vague's friends!
― promethethem (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am straight up 100% officially unwaveringly anticipating the hell out of this until I have any reason not to.
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, March 19, 2012
welp
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
should we join hands and pray or something, I'm feeling very at-sea all of a sudden
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Have either Charlie Brooker or David Mitchell weighed in yet?
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
not making any moves till I hear from armond
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
he hates ridley scott, so i can't imagine he'll pick this one to fall in love with
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's So Armond!
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 12:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
This was... OK. Worse than cubed. Better than Resurrection. Much stupidity, which I can't really go into without spoilers. For all that Ridley Scott has been playing down the idea that this is a prequel to Alien, the film goes out of its way to set up that movie - some of which I found satisfying. But it also raises lots of questions (so I'll come back and ask them when a few more people have seen). Main gripe though is that there is too much plot; a vaguely interesting premise meets blockbuster movie requirements = aagggh no one would really do that IRL.
Fassbender is great until he too is undone by the script's stupidity. Rapace is bearable. Most everyone else is wasted. The 3D is mostly unflashy but I suspect you lose nothing by seeing it in 2D.
― Jeff W, Saturday, 2 June 2012 13:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Plot
In the distant past, the spacecraft of an advanced humanoid alien race arrives on Earth. One of the aliens consumes a dark liquid, causing its body to disintegrate and fall into a nearby waterfall—seeding Earth with the building blocks of life.
― thomp, Saturday, 2 June 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost Thank you! 1 out of 1 StanMs found the previous review helpful
― StanM, Saturday, 2 June 2012 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
all fair, jeff, tho without going into the details it's hard to see where you'd bump it up as high as 'ok'
The first maybe 40 mins are good tension/premise building, imo everything after the first expedition was incoherent hackneyed cliche- and the incoherence is by far the greater problem than the cliche.
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 June 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
just heard the end of a polite panning on radio 4
this film is beginning to sound so awful i think i'll have to see it
― DG, Saturday, 2 June 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think you may be onto something there
i have spent most of the last 24 hours talking about this movie and how dreadful it was- in a way that makes it better value than a movie i saw, liked and forgot.
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love that!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
having just watched alien i'm looking forward to seeing these space jockey guys running around, esp. as they quite clearly have no legs and are glued to the chair
― DG, Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Y'all are bringing me down.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 June 2012 01:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Worse than cubed. Better than Resurrection.
this is impossible?
― goole, Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
But... the trailers...
― StanM, Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
*hangs head*
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Having watched Alien last night I'm not sure I want to see this any more.
― I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Sunday, 3 June 2012 09:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
imo watch the trailers slowed down to 160 mins, imagine the rest. You'll remember it more fondly
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 June 2012 10:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien: it busts at your chest!
― StanM, Sunday, 3 June 2012 11:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I thought this was terrific. I'm no fanboy and went in with lower expectations after reading some of the comments and was pleasantly surprised. There's some parts of the plot which frankly need explanation or at least a re watching, which I'll pass on to avoid spoilers, but the second act on is such a blast I was happy to leave that aside.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 3 June 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
And Kate Dickie of 'Red Road as a doctor made me smile.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 3 June 2012 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
SyFy is running Aliens on the pub flatscreen here. I had forgotten that the entire Rescue Newt sequence is all orange-and-teal.com
Also, that there is _no_ music during the search part. This is back when James Cameron knew what he was doing.
― Dreaming in Infrared (kingfish), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
fwiw my sister texted me this evening, said she and her husband loved it.
― PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
this film is getting the most divided reviews i've seen for a very long time.
― piscesx, Monday, 4 June 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wish filmmakers would start releasing different versions of their films, like, versions that are different by 20% or so, and not tell anyone. Them someone would see this and tell their friend, hey, I loved the part when such and such happened, and their friend would be all, huh? And then they would say they didn't like the such and such, and the first friend would be all, what? And then they'd each have to see it again to figure out what's going on. And then they'd compare notes and be all, oohhhhh, now I get it!!!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Pulling that on a mass-scale release would be fantastic.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Monday, 4 June 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
that would've been cool a couple decades or more ago, but you know the internet would suck all the fun and excitement out of that in about a day now (xpost)
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
wld rate this abt as highly as The Thing prequel
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Would it still be bad if it were not a sequel to alien, if there was no first alien movie to compare it to?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes
― Number None, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
So, is it:
Alien > Aliens > Prometheus > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection?
or
Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Prometheus > Alien Resurrection?
or *gasp*
Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Prometheus?
― StanM, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
everything i have seen indicates it will be ridiculous
i sort of started tuning out when i saw the doughnut-shaped alien ship bearing down on noomi like a wagon wheel
― the late great, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
i am gonna set an arbitrary deadline at 50 ballots
"50 ballotz stands for 1 ballot from every state of the USA, all them ballotz would be stronger than every weapon, if they would be united - THUG LIFE"
― the late great, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
oops
― the late great, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
it works here, too
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Monday, 4 June 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I thought for sure this had opened in the US already. Hype Machine must be blown up.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien Resurrection is great, fuiud
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 4 June 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok, switch Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection around if you're that way inclined, I don't mind. :-)
― StanM, Monday, 4 June 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Now I'm curious how this movie can be so terrible. Is it Transformers terrible, or just terrible because of missed potential? Like, is it inept or just too ambitious?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
What was the deal w guy pearce's makeup in this movie
― just sayin, Monday, 4 June 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
He was cheaper than an actual old guy I suppose.
― StanM, Monday, 4 June 2012 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
resurrection was better than this, because it was just dumb and played dumb. might help answer your question too josh.
agree with number none on this- this movie doesn't work at all independently of hype or relation to any other movies, it just doesn't make any sense in and of itself
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Monday, 4 June 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Again, I'm finding myself in the same boat as I was with Dark Shadows. This isn't bad enough to earn the glory of being a great bad movie.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Monday, 4 June 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really liked this, although I've only seen Aliens (years ago and wasn't moved). There are some majorly daft rmde moments but by the end it's just rollicking great fun.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 01:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
this was ok i guess. my first 3D film!
+ one particular scene is can't-turn-away-even-though-every-instinct-is-recoiling gripping, and if i was a female it might have actually traumatised me+ one line from the captain is v amusing+ michael fassbender is amazing+ the charlize theron character is interesting+ blah blah blah impressive cgi stops you falling asleep at least though i think i don't really "get" special effects as a replacement for plot and dialogue and characterisation
- almost nothing of consequence actually happens. there are setpieces but even i, who am not that familiar w/the alien series and have not been following the prometheus hype much, was not actually surprised by a single thing about it- it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep- noomi rapace character way less interesting than charlize theron- as per every blockbuster it misses a ton of tricks that could've made it more interesting or tense in more then a basic way. the two final survivors having to talk to each other and work together, for instance- characterisation didn't go anywhere deep enough - the android is the most complex character ffs, for all that it purported to ask "why?" about everything nothing is ACTUALLY EXPLAINED EVER, half the characters' motivation may as well be completely random
just a really average film basically
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 08:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
you should see alien, the first one, it is lean and wicked
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ speaketh the gospel.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
- it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep- or all that it purported to ask "why?" about everything nothing is ACTUALLY EXPLAINED EVER, half the characters' motivation may as well be completely random
LINDELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't regret my time watching it, but it is mostly bobbins. A friend made the interesting point that a lot of the set up is very similar to Aliens vs Predators, which is odd not least because this was put on hold (while still a twinkle in HR Giger's eye) so AvP could be made.
Lex hugely OTM about nothing consequential or surprising happening. Also the dialogue went out of its way to ensure this (drinking at the space-billiard table probably the worst of this), and the last scene (might be after the credits, I don't remember) seems to have been hammered in to underline certain connections for the really dim.
But yeah - I would recommend people to go see it EG cheap at the Prince Charles in 2D.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep
tempted to put this post above my writing/drawing desk in perpetuo
― but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
worst/dumbest scene/dialogue was pearce/theron imo, but there were several contenders- preamble to scientist sexy times was especially painful
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not deep you say!?
And I know it’s horribly obnoxious to say “You need to see the movie a couple of times in order to truly appreciate it”, but I do feel like it was designed that way and there are little things that seem like a throw-away on first viewing.For example, when they do the carbon gating on the dead engineer and realise he has been dead for 2000 years then you wonder about when, 2000 years ago, the Engineers decided to wipe us out. What happened 2000 years ago? Is there any correlation with what happened on the earth 2000 years ago and this decision that was already in motion? Could a sequel start in that time period and contextualize what we did to piss these beings off?I think it’s a very interesting question to leave dangling. Is it a loose end? Yeah, probably. But it’s probably what sends you to the pub after the movie and has you arguing with your friends as to what you think it might mean.
For example, when they do the carbon gating on the dead engineer and realise he has been dead for 2000 years then you wonder about when, 2000 years ago, the Engineers decided to wipe us out. What happened 2000 years ago? Is there any correlation with what happened on the earth 2000 years ago and this decision that was already in motion? Could a sequel start in that time period and contextualize what we did to piss these beings off?
I think it’s a very interesting question to leave dangling. Is it a loose end? Yeah, probably. But it’s probably what sends you to the pub after the movie and has you arguing with your friends as to what you think it might mean.
― Number None, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
rmde
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alien 5: SPACE JESUS
questions also left open for the two sequels apparently in the pipeline
― DG, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
unless the appalling word of mouth on this scuppers those plans
― Number None, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
in the past, that has stopped nothing!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
WAS JESUS A PREDATOR
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
*mind explodes, quits job, changes user name*
― but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbh i'm resigned to this film being poo but i know i'm going to end up seeing it anyway if only to pull it to pieces
― DG, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
in Alien Russia, film pulls you to pieces!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ already a better plot than this POS
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
we should totally write the jesus-predator-alien sequel, I'm sure we can pitch a better treatment than this Lindeloff guy
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
as someone who frequently leaves cinemas seething with rage at slapdash insulting blockbuster tripe, i agree with p much everyone's criticisms but i had a decent time anyway and don't particularly regret going.
(altho saying that, this was also my first 3d screening and it felt more like a ride than anything tbh, the sensory overload made it weirdly difficult to track narrative and characterization on the fly as you usually would)
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
almost feel like they couldve just about gotten away with something if they'd had even the slightest bit of interesting dialogue with awoken titan guy at the end, but no, hulk smash, rip fassbender head off zzzz
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah rtc nailed it wide the ride analogy for 3D, seeing avatar was kind of like being on a pirates of the caribbean type ghost train
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
so the alien giant dude is like big angry frankenstein, jeez this keeps sounding worse and worse
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
walking home after v disorientating too, like here's a car coming right at me oh wait ok this will actually hit me won't it
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall),
this is bouncing around in my skull as an arnie taunt from terminator
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
man, not to be all yank-centric but could we at least go gentle on the spoilers until this thing is released in the US for like a day?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
from what i can gather there aren't any spoilers unless you've somehow avoided all the trailers and promo gubbins
― DG, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
well there was the part where the alien ship rolls down the hill like a wagon wheel and noomi runs along the top of it like as the alien is chasing her
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
p. sure that the normal line in these situations is 'avoid the movie thread once the movie's released if you don't want spoilers'
but
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
SPOILER
the android did it
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
they fly at u face
this is shit
Another question: is this pretty much bad from the get-go, or does it only dawn upon you when the credits roll how terrible it has been? Thinking of "Lost" here, which for all its ups and downs could have gone either way until the last ep, which some folks (like me) felt invalidated and retro-shittified much of what came before it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm hardly the Chief of Credibility Police w.r.t movies like this, but (REAL SPOILER ALERT if you care) those crunches Noomi has to do throughout the last quarter of the movie are kind of OTT considering her emergency C-section.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
SPOILERZ
ikr, so much mystique about Our Creators and it's just this giant monster. no ANSWERS even on the film's own terms.
also wtf @ saving Vickers and Shaw and then instead of that leading to, idk, some dialogue between two of the film's opposite poles...one of them just gets squashed.
the self-C-section scene was the most intense thing though.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
the 3D bit i appreciated most was the shirtless-right-in-the-camera scene, quite glad they didn't have a full-on 3D sex scene though
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hah, I spent the whole movie wondering if I'd seen him in any other movies and, if not, why. Back curves in 3D were v nice.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Another question: is this pretty much bad from the get-go, or does it only dawn upon you when the credits roll how terrible it has been?
first 40 mins are pretty good, deserve a better what-seemed-like-300-mins
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I would've absolutely hated it if they'd actually managed to get Into Serious Dialog with the titan. As far as it goes I thought he was perfectly reasonable - clearly none of you have ever seen me before my first coffee of the morning.
Also rmde at we have discovered that they have advanced holograms, which they seem to use mainly for exposition.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
{David is awestruck. The wind picks up. In the air the huge image of the Space Jockey is forming from the clouds. He appears to be walking from the stars. The image is ghostly at first, but steadily gains color and coherence.}
Space Jockey: Humans ...Michael Fassbender: Father?Space Jockey: Humans, you have forgotten me.Michael Fassbender: No. How could we?Space Jockey: You have forgotten who you are, and so have forgotten me. Look inside yourself, human. You are more than what you have become. You must take your place in the Circle of Life.
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
HEY ROGER MEXICO STOP READING THIS THREAD NOW, MAYBE GO WALK IN THE PARK OR SOMETHING.
But yeah to go back to my first sentence, I did really enjoy watching it while I was watching it, it was very creepy in its own way (like all of the Alien films have been) - the revived head, the eye worms, the rippling fluids, the snake, the emergency operation - I might say it was very Cronenberg if I had, er, watched more Cronenberg.
It was really well *made* in general, and then there'll be something like a zombie for no reason.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Space Jockey - Hello, Noomi.
Noomi - Who are you?
Space Jockey - I am the Space Jockey. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's odd how Ridley's career seems to reflect Lucas's - early groundbreaking success, followed by string of utter shit, eventual acceptance of franchise legacy, churns out successful yet shitty "prequels" in the interest of resolving "unanswered questions" from originals, legacy secured.
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