Boulder the "most liberal city" in Colorado?

A visiting, very lefty law professor of mine from Eugene, living in Boulder for the year, proclaimed Boulder to be a miserable fraud, mostly just a bunch of smug very rich liberals with the luxury of opinions that they can afford. I do think that the city just outsources is sprawl to Louisville and Longmont. But then, I guess people have to live somewhere, and if they packed more folks into Boulder property values might drop. Nonetheless, the traffic in town really sucks bad.

Compared to the Springs, Boulder is communist.

2 types of college students: those who are there to study, and those who are there to ski. and rock climb. and drink inordinate amounts of alcohol. mostly liberal, although i'm not sure how many of them come from places in colorado that aren't boulder or denver.

ex-hippies: lived in boulder back in the day, are either raising their kids now to be liberal, or have already done that and seen them off to college or wherever at which point they cease being ex-hippies and start simply being hippies again.

exceedingly rich people: who knows their political viewpoint.

the thing is, maybe boulderites think of their city as being really liberal because the 3 conservatives who write in to the paper every day tell us we are. but i don't think in my 15 years of living there i ever actually encountered and talked to one conservative expressing their views openly. and hey, at least it's not the Springs.

A visiting, very lefty law professor of mine from Eugene, living in Boulder for the year, proclaimed Boulder to be a miserable fraud, mostly just a bunch of smug very rich liberals with the luxury of opinions that they can afford.

liberal city FITE!!!!!!

Needless to say, being a buddhist from Boulder, i do think that there are a lot of very clear minded buddhists and Naropa students who really can't be grouped into any category. i know quite a few and would hate to see them pigeonholed because some idiots are busy Traversing the Spiritual Plane.

I keep imagining some hippie girl riding up Magnolia with a guitar on her back.

http://www.hellninjacommando.net/movie/pics/drunkenmasterii3.jpg

I didn't mean to pigeonhole anyone, I should say also I liked the atmosphere when I'd visit the campus occasionally, since it reminded me of my undergrad college, a place that also had a visible (but by no means majority) hippie-kid presence.

I think my friends were making fun of a very visible group of people who seemed to put their hippie cred above anything else they might do, and with my lack of knowledge about Naropa/Boulder I didn't know if my friends (former students) were the exception or the rule.

Which is all to reiterate that my impression above is only an impression. I used to notice a lot of prayer flags whenever I'd walk around my neighborhood in Denver, many more so than in any other US city I've ever lived in. Do you know what the buddhist pop. in Denver is?

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i'm in NYC now but go back to boulder for the summers.

...and I agree with Mandee on that one.

I loved Denver too. What a nice town.

Sgs, I kinda feel the Denver vibe, and I

Anyhow what I was saying is that I really like Denver now, and I feel like it's a pretty cool place, but when people visit I start to feel self-conscious about it, like it's not as RADICAL as I originally thought. I definitely like it here better than I did when I lived here before (February of 2003 through September 2003).

Although Lost Lake is going to be no more in 2 months time which is going to make Denver 100x lamer.

I was sad to leave, there were things about it I really loved, people and my 'hood, but the suckassness of DU and how much I hated teaching cast an unfortunate pall over my time, especially after I'd spent so much effort moving there. I still think it's a pretty cool place though, it felt like half-town, half-city sometimes, with mostly the good parts of each. As in, there are plenty of good and great things but it's as if you have to know to look for them in a way, they're not on display as much as they are in a larger city.

I'd like to visit there again. I didn't do as much as I could've there--didn't go to the art museum, or any museums really, which is nuts 'cuz I heart museums. It must've been a weird time in my life.

Have any of y'all been to that restaurant up the mountain outside Boulder? the Flagstaff Inn I guess it's called? We were on too tight a budget and too underdressed but it looked cool.

:(

Denver is probably a bit more expensive than Chicago, but not much more.

It's funny -- I've heard people say it's expensive to live there but it didn't seem too bad in general. Or are you talking rent? I meant to check out housing prices there but didn't get around to it. I didn't really get the traffic thing either ... at least, Boulder seems almost too small to really have a bad traffic problem, no? Maybe we weren't driving at peak times though. The buses seemed to come by really frequently.

Last time I was there, aside from driving through, (which was uh 1996, to visit some friends at the University) there seemed to be a disproportionate number of young "liberal" well-to-do post-hippie Phishheads in SUVs (before SUVs were SUVs, actually) that appeared to be taking narcisism to a new level. But, indeed, this is probably a stereotype.

I have a friend who lives near Boulder that I visit now and again and he lives an idyllic life up in the mountains. I'm jealous about that.

My rent is pretty damn cheap. I think it's a renter's market here. To buy a house is pretty ridiculous, but I think that's pretty much everywhere. I pay $475 all utilities included for a washington park 1-bedroom (it's tiny, though). Groceries are the only thing that seem overpriced to me.

Boulder is far more expensive compared to Denver. I think most one bedroom apartments are $700-1000 where they are probably $450-900 in Denver (depending on neighborhood and etc.)

in other news, thank fucking god Pete Coors didn't get elected to Senate, though there's a running bet going on in my family on how long it'll take Salazar to switch sides.

So, I'm going to be in Boulder for a summer internship. A friend of mine who grew up in Denver says that Boulder is sort of a hippie town. I'm prepared for that, though, I think. It's all about what kind of hippie town it is. I'm in Ithaca right now, which leans toward the burnt out hippie side. As long as Boulder isn't full of people stumbling in and out of the bong shop, staring distantly and muttering things at my shoes, it should be alright.

Every third craig's list post in the subleasing section goes out of its way to mention that they are "420 friendly".

oh, ZS do you know this girl:

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/72/81/43300184/n43300184_30531059_1299.jpg

if you wanna get high give me a call ZS

boulder is okay. i mean, it's real pretty. but there's something about it that is slightly depressing. like, all my old co-workers would go on hikes after happy hour and go running during lunch.

also that movie 'catch and release' was set in boulder and it was terrible.

Ha, I know that girl AND that guy. That's Greg, right? I see him pretty often at Korova, although he always gives me that look like "what's that dudes name? oh well.."

The girl I met a few weeks ago, I think, when some people came over to our house after the Excepter show.

Might definitely take you up on that homosexual II.

Oh wait, that's not Greg. God I'm a dufus today. But he works at No Radio, correct?

You'll be fine in Boulder. Lotsa people from Ithica there. It's hippie rep is pretty overblown these days. It's more of a rich, white liberal town now, with a healthy dollop of granola. If you're not into XTREME sports, it can be a pretty boring place. We moved to Denver.

Make sure you listen to Radio 1190!

I'm in Boulder now.

I'm in a kind of crazy living situation. I'm living with other guy, but he's best friends with all of his neighbors, and they've knocked down the fences in their backyards so it's like an open community area. I have been smoked up like fifty times since I got here yesterday, and have been offered a margarita by a stranger not once but twice.

The roommate and his friends are nice, but they probably think I'm a weirdo. I played them the Santana Shredz video, and they didn't think it was that funny. Then one of them was like "Why don't we watch a REAL Santana song?" and before I knew it we were watching Santana live at Woodstock 1969. Admittedly, that Woodstock footage was pretty cool. But the thing is, they weren't looking for woodstock footage. They were looking for ANY Santana footage. And I'm already getting really sick of listening to Sublime. They're still cool dudes though. My roommate says "Yeah, right?" anytime he agrees with someone else, which is endearing.

Anyway, Mandee (or anyone else in Boulder) send me an email if you want.

yikes, Sublime!

Emailing you ZS.

also reply to mandee wright at gmail dot com - the email address im registered under is defunct.

omg boulder is my least favorite place in the world

The Honorable Stanley Fish

the email address im registered under is defunct.

Ooooh, that makes sense. I sent you a few emails the other day, but it's better that they went to a defunct email address because they were written the night before I took the flight out here, and I was in a crazy situation where I didn't know the exact address of the place I'm subleasing at, and the subleaser was in Utah mountainbiking and couldn't be reached by telephone. So I sent you a message like "Umm...I'm really sorry, but there's maybe a 2% chance I might need a favor from you as soon as I get into Boulder".

I'm leaving for the first day at my internship now, but I'll be sure to check my email later.

Jhoshea - the key in life is to start your way at the very bottom and gradually work your way up, and that way everywhere you go seems like an improvement. This is why I was fortunate, in retrospect, to grow up in a shitty tiny town in rural Missouri. Because hey - at least Boulder has mountains and stuff.

yah i have deep and abiding love for the colorado rockies - and a number of people im quite fond of live in boulder - still it is my nemecity

uh anyway yr just there for an internship right

I can really appreciate Boulder now that I live in Denver and am only there once a week.

Denver is way better than Boulder, though!

But it takes a few years before one can see its charm.

ive only ever spent a few days in denver - i liked it tho

i think boulder would be awesome if it weren't for all the people

everyone says it was amazing in the 70s

i think a lot of colorado was amazing in the 60s-70s. e.g. Aspen, when Hunter was running for sheriff.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u33/icedcake/HunterSeason1front400x286pixcels.jpg

In response to the original thread question: I lived in Boulder for a time and yeah, like others have noted above, how liberal can a place actually be when it is largely a haven for the super-rich? Like Ann Arbor, another town in which I have lived, there is plenty of leftist hand-wringing being performed over California Sirah and expensive vegetarian cuisine, but I imagine there is also a lot of secret appreciation for capital gains tax cuts and supercheap Mexican labor. Also, at least as of the late 90's, about 70% of those same people commuted to Denver every day in gigantic SUVs. Everyone else seemed to own a Saab, for some reason.

Ann Arbor and Boulder are a far cry from the hotbeds of anti-establishment activism they were before Reaganism set in, yet both towns somehow maintain that illusion. In both cities, people are far too comfortable to be genuinely pissed off at corporate culture.

Seasonal tourists excepted, the real "most liberal city" in Colorado is probably some hippy mountain utopia like Telluride or Crested Butte.

Telluride is Aspen v.2.0 and heaving with rich folk. Crested Butte is a main drag with a pizza place that serves 40s and many dirty bros.

Durango is probably more "liberal" than either of them. But fuck it, I just want to move to Marble or Silverton.

there is plenty of leftist hand-wringing being performed over California Sirah

Syrah? Petite Sirah? neither is close to CA's most notable grape.

Durango is probably more "liberal" than either of them - Oops. I meant Durango, not Crested Butte. I've never been to Crested Butte. Regarding the Telluride/Aspen thing: that's really too bad, though not surprising at all. I haven't been there in over ten years, but at the time it was a comfortable change of pace from the increasingly upscale and homogenized environs of the Vail/Summit County towns. I suppose its co-option was inevitable. I have purposely avoided Aspen, but I'm sure it has changed drastically from the days when Hunter Thompson was elected Sheriff (or very nearly elected - I forget).

Syrah? Petite Sirah? neither is close to CA's most notable grape. - OK, youve got me. I was referring to Petite Sirah, as it is generally pretty expensive, but you are welcome to subsitute that with any California red you feel to be more appropriate.

gbx they cancelled iron horse as silverton had 12" of snow on saturday. i would like to live in durango i think.

boulder, ugh.

I've actually explored very little of CO's mountain towns - must be because I'm from the NoCo prairie. Actually I have no excuse as I've lived in CO for 28 years.

Durango's the most liberal?

i wouldnt think so.

its got a small cottage and lots of outdoor types, but its also got a lot of ranchers and regular semi rural ppl from my experiences there

"college" wtf

yeah, that's what I was thinking, though the county (of which the 'city' is 1/3, apparently) did go Kerry, barely

i forgot that.

san miguel county had the highest kerry at like 75+% as i recall, but thats because it has telluride, sawpit, and not much else. gunnison county where cb is has lots of ranchers etc.

the blue counties in 2004, in descending order of blueness:
San Miguel (Telluride)
Denver
Pitkin (Aspen)
Costilla (San Luis, tiny)
Boulder
Summit (Breckenridge)
Saguache (tiny)
Gunnison (Crested Butte)
Gilpin (Central City)
Routt (Steamboat Springs)
Clear Creek (Georgetown)
Pueblo
Eagle (Vail)
La Plata (Durango)
San Juan (Silverton)
Adams (Aurora-Commerce City)
Las Animas (Trinidad)

the great thing about 'catch and release' is it made the people of boulder seem so horrible that it surely could stop anyone from moving here if, of course, more than 8 people had seen it.

Boulder has really good beer though.

I also liked the Sundown Saloon when I lived there.

The place can get really depressing though. Everyone really is a mountain climbing gearhead with bad taste in music. Also, there is very little grasp of sarcasm in that town. Everyone is just so "sincere" about everything, unless they are some rich college kid.

I lived there in 2004-2005. My landlord, who lived next door, would routinely come by and leave pro-Kerry stuff on our front porch. You'll find that despite the illusion that Boulder is a friendly and accepting town, most of the people are quite rude. I moved there from Virginia, driving an old Jeep Cherokee. I was routinely derided for this, and generally assumed to be a republican.

Everyone really is a mountain climbing gearhead with bad taste in music. Also, there is very little grasp of sarcasm in that town. Everyone is just so "sincere" about everything, unless they are some rich college kid.

siiiiiiigh, yes. 2 more months.

Hey ZS, Albertson's (here, anyway) has a sale: buy 3 boxes of general mills cereal & get a gallon of milk free.

Oh, and it's $5 for the three boxes (plus the free milk).

Whoa, nice!

The odds of me getting there are not so good, though. Technically it's within biking distance from where I'm at, but I wouldn't be able to carry back much more than the 3 boxes of cereal and gallon of milk. Plus the guy I'm staying with appears to be emotionally attached to King Sooper's.

I caught a bunch of shit when I got here about not knowing what King Sooper's was.

I am coming to rescue you!!!

No worries, I'm doing ok for tonight (check yr email)

Although one guy did say "Dude, you can't say ...."currency" and...uh...."fecal matter" at night, those are daytime words. Normally I would understand, but..." after I said something like "but 80% of currency has fecal matter on it anyway, right?" in a conversation tangentially related to how dirty beer pong is (due to the missed throws hitting the table, floor, dirt etc).

ie, fuck you dude we're grownups.

I know no one cares, but I have to say,

There are two dudes I barely know hanging out in my weed stenched living room. They just kind of hang out here. All the time. One of them, on the left, was described to me as "just like Kramer" before I ever met him. He's like Kramer in that he always walks in uninvited and is just kind of...there...he's unlike Kramer in that he's never funny, ever. He's has also told me that he has a crush on a 16-year-old girl and the girl's mother, and that girls are best when they're "on the edge of the range" like that.

The other guy, he seemed pretty good natured the first few times I met him, but now, as he lays all over one of the couches, I realize that I'm almost certain he has had his hand down his gym shorts for like half an hour. Not really scratching or jerking it or whatever, but just down in there. Like Al Bundy but way further down. I don't know what to say anymore. What the fuck is wrong with this town?

like farther than this:

http://robotninjawhores.com/wp-content/2007/04/paris-hilton-bikini-hand.jpg

I think that's technically safe for work, but sorry.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS TOWN?

He's like Kramer in that he always walks in uninvited and is just kind of...there...he's unlike Kramer in that he's never funny, ever.

looool

is boulder just a bunch of crusty hippy "spiritual" types and college kids?

zs maybe you could seek advice from gary during next week's episode of car concerns

I don't know what the hell is going on here. I'm in Boulder, CO living with halfassed stoner (they only smoke spliffs, WTF) college kids - and somehow I'm sitting on a couch arguing with this kid that says China is 50 miles off the coast of Florida, drilling diagonally toward the U.S., drilling our oil. I understand what he's saying, it's a false rumor Cheney helped spread a few days ago, but when I explain what's actually is going on his eyes glaze toward the tv and no one responds. We're all watching some sort of extreme wrestling thing where one fighter is jabbing his elbow into the other guys temple, repeatedly, and they're both covered with blood. Nooooooo

xp Gary's all I got in this goddamned world.

whoa, wtf ZS? Your housing situation sounds fucked. Fuck those people, go take some walks somewhere beautiful; get away from those eyes glazed-over beer pong-playing dudes staring at tv with conspiracy theories dancing around in their heads

lol "just like Kramer" guy

Someone's describing Boulder, all right

That's the thing though, I spend nearly all of my free time either up in the trails in the mountains or at a coffeeshop called the Laughing Goat. But I can't spend ALL of my time away from home. I still have to come back to eat, and then hang out until I'm finally tired enough to go to bed. I can't make enemies of these fools because they're all I've got. If I get antagonistic with them I will literally have no friends. And I don't have a car, so I need someone to take me to get groceries.

Occasionally I come across someone who isn't completely braindead and I want to hold onto their leg and say "Please talk to me. Can we please drink wine and talk about something? Anything?". But I doubt that's socially acceptable.

Ah, well that's cool-- it sounds like you are making some wise use of your time! But I understand what you're saying...

I doubt that's socially acceptable

Yeah, but it's probably worth trying some variation of that! I would. Seriously.

I do hope your roomies are like, "And he didn't even want to watch wrestling, but he drunkenly animated a picture of vaginas in about 15 minutes."

So far, I've adopted the strategy of hoping that someone at the coffeeshop will notice that I am always browsing interesting and hilarious websites, and think I'm cool and talk to me. And that they wouldn't be crazy.

"New lows reached at Boulder coffeeshop - no one notices"

That's another thing. They don't think that stuff like that is funny AT ALL. wtf? My roommate couldn't even watch A.I. because it was "too weird" (and this was waaaay before it got weird at all).

But, but...Jude Law IS Lover Robot!

meet some hot chick from craigslist and spend your nights hanging out at her place

I imagine that would piss my girlfriend off quite a bit!

Everything would possibly be ok if I could just play videogames or something. But no. Playing the DS is "gay", obviously.

HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO DENVER????

i think i need to come to boulder on friday night and save you from beer pong. however, i dont drink wine. is this a problem?

I could take the bus (the BX, I think) from Boulder to Denver, no problem.

We should do that! On Friday, c'mon!

SURE
either/or!
i am going to be up at my parents house on friday afternoon (they live in Greeley) so Boulder is totally on the way back home for me if you don't feel like taking the bus.
OR, I can see how you wanna get outta that place.

i don't think i've ever posted on this board (i'm more of an ILM guy), but i live in Longmont, which is about 20 minutes east of Boulder, and I can't say enough good things about it. I lived in Boulder for close to two years before moving out here and agree with a lot of the problems mentioned on this thread. Longmont -- or at least the neighborhood I'm in -- is quite lovely. Old, affordable homes! An awesome cheese shop! Lots of cool neighbors! Fewer (or, not any) CU students! Those mountains! COME TO LONGMONT.

that said, boulder does have plenty to recommend it -- namely some very good beer.

longmont's beer is lacking for the most part.

Longmont also has that Macdonalds with the choo-choo

And the TWIN PEAKS MALL

yes, the mont is all twin peaksed out. twin peaks church! scary. longmont also has some of the best mexican food i've found in colorado.

^^ no freaking way

is a mound of guac standard taco topping in CO or is that just an Albertaco thing?
can someone briefly say why The Springs is so bad and hated? Got family there but haven't been there for 20 years other than brief pass-thrus/stopping at Garden of the Gods/horrible sushi experience.

no freaking way to the mexican food or the twin peaks church / mall?

No freaking way to the Mexican! Or, I mean ... are you just comparing to northern Colorado, or have you eaten down south and you're still going with Longmont? I have a hard time believing Mexican in Longmont has surpassed what you get down around/past Pueblo.

Colorado Springs is largely bad and hated for being intensely conservative/evangelical, and having served for a long time as a center for lots of varieties of huge right-wing religious groups who want to focus on your family. It has self-consciously whitebread ideas sometimes, possibly due to fear of Mexicans; possibly due to its geography being somewhat deformed and disconnected in ways that completely blast any notion of human beings living in a community with one another, partly due to weird land speculation that went BOOM during the 80s savings-and-loan scandal; also possibly due to the Air Force Academy and NORAD being nearby. Also lots of people are weird. Also the Mexican food is not as good as it is further south, though if you live further south the Springs is a good place to go for bigger malls, with Chick-Fil-As. In sum, Colorado Springs is weird and conservative and creates a weird liberal enclave/prison around Colorado College, but on the plus side, the stretches of I-25 leading out of it are very pretty and worth driving on.

yeah, i guess i would amend that to best mexican food on the front range (boulder, denver, ft. collins etc.). Actually have spent next to no time at all down south, though I'm planning on it this summer.

The drive to CO springs is pretty, and Manitou Springs is cool for the penny arcade thinger, but last summer my sister and I decided to drive down to CO springs to look around and go hiking and things and we decided that town is really, really hideous.

It does have a ZOO on a MOUNTAIN though which is cool.

I'm totally a northern colorado girl though.

This comes from growing up in Greeley I 'spose.

i went to a party near lefthand canyon (betw. boulder & lyons) a couple weeks back and it was a serious Boulder yuppie kind of scene. Very well-off pseud-bohemians. I won't front, though, I'd live up there in a second if I had the $$$. Outrageously gorgeous.

thanks for the springs lowdown, nabisco. it seemed like a weird place to me, but not necessarily in an unpleasant way. but like i said, have spent hardly any time there in the past 20years.
where is the good mex food south of Pueblo? Along I-25, or further west, in the mountains? I couldn't find any good food til I hit New Mexico.

Well, I grew up in Pueblo, so I'm biased toward the Mexican around there. There's not much to point to outside of that in terms of specific towns, but anytime I had decent Mexican in small towns anywhere in the area -- Canon City, La Junta, Trinidad, wherever -- it tended to be a lot better than up north. (Never mind crossing the border into New Mexican goodness.)

(Now that I think about it, I'm not actually sure I-25 passes through much of anything between Pueblo and New Mexico -- Trinidad? Walsenberg? Rye? So yeah, once you're past Pueblo, you tend to start checking the mileage for Raton and not stopping.)

yeah it's pretty much a no man's land past Pueblo on I-25, but I had fantasies of there being a Shangri La of Mexican food hidden in those mountains.
If I'm not mistaken, Longmont has a huge ConAgra processing facility (chickens, for sure, don't know what else. i used to work at their HQ in HR), and employs a good deal of Mexicans, which would explain the food oasis there.

Mandee - a ride from Boulder would be reaaaally awesome if you it's convenient for you. The only thing is that I'm going to be at work until about 5pm or so. Is that too late to swing through Boulder? If so, that's cool, I'll just take the bus to Denver, it's not a big deal.

<3 nabisco's second paragraph up there in his colorado springs post

Zach I probably won't leave Greeley until 6pm or so... so yeah, the work issue isn't a problem.

awwwwwwesome.

I'll send you an email with my address. It's not hard to get to - it's a few blocks west of Broadway, on the Hill.

hey zach, change of plans - my friend's band is playing downtown tomorrow (20th & Larimer somewhere) and then there's a party thinger afterward. wanna come down for that?

YES, that sounds great. Although, I may have to be lame and leave the party early, because I think the last bus back to boulder leaves around midnight or so (I could be hilariously wrong on that).

no, last one leaves at 2:20 am duder!!!

we could send you off at union station which is like 2 blocks from the party

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Mandalion/Picture2.jpg

whoa, gnarly!

Cool, what's the name of the bar/venue then? I can just meet you there.

i'll email you, im still gathering details

Mandee, I just got back from Denver about 20 minutes ago. What a fucking awesome weekend trip! I laughed so hard and so often over the past few days that I actually have a sore throat (best sore throat ever). We gotta do it again sometime soon.

PS Please don't tell anyone how much I cheated at air hockey oh wait what am I doing

most entertaining air hockey game ever!!

yeah man it was great to meet you and me and all my friends had a blast!!! and you are welcome to our couch in denver anytime.

Just got into an 40 minute long argument about THE ENVIRONMENT AND ENERGY where he said that I was a hypocrite because I only am a vegetarian (a decision I made on grounds of energy use) and don't go "100%".

LATE UPDATE

he walked in and totally apologized. Maybe's he's not so bad.

SRY SO DRUNK BOULDER

I have a hard time making up my mind about Boulder. When we lived there, my friends and I used to compare it to Dairy, from Stephen King's, It. You keep looking around hoping that someone else will acknowledge that there is something terribly wrong about the place, but, like you said, it's all glazed over eyes.

That being said, there were days when shit was way bad, and all I had to do was take a look at the flat irons and it would wash away.

I was planning to move to China this fall, but salary expectations and visa problems are making that less of a viable option. I think my girlfriend and I are moving to Boulder in August.

Where are you from originally, ZS?

im ogin to colorado for a month on tuesday and completely bypassing boulder HAHA FU BOULDER

what are you doing here jhoshea

Benjamin -

I'm originally from near St. Louis, Missouri. A small town called Farmington. But now I'm living in Ithaca, NY, but only until I graduate next May. Then somewhere else. I HAVE NO HOME.

Mandee

I'm coming to Denver on Thursday night/Friday/Saturday afternoon. If you would like hang 10 gimme a call!

Alright, they don't like the "1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, ELEVEN TWELVE!" song, or the animation. FUCK THIS.

Mandee - wanna see Matmos tomorrow in Boulder? Pleeeeeeeease?

i'm down for Denver drinks on July 26th

I loved Boulder when I visited. especially Boulder Brewing company

Alright, they don't like the "1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, ELEVEN TWELVE!" song, or the animation. FUCK THIS.

what the fuck are these people

Z S email me at dr dot drew dot daniel at gee mail dot com so that I can list you in Boulder brah

Drew, I just emailed you, but since it's already 6:30pm I'm assuming it's too late for guest list action. No big deal though, I'll be there either way.

WAIT IS IT TONIGHT OR WEDNESDAY ZACH!!?!?

sorry i just now saw this! AND I JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK AND I STINK!

Jordan is speechless!

mandee, did you get my ilx mail?

OH! Jordan!!! The email I am registered under is no longer valid - email me at mandee wr!ght at gmail dot com

oh cool, i re-mailed you

They're still cool dudes though. My roommate says "Yeah, right?" anytime he agrees with someone else, which is endearing.

-- Z S, Monday, May 26, 2008 4:22 PM

RONG

omg boulder is my least favorite place in the world

-- jhøshea, Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:13 AM

RITE

Anybody lived in Ouray or Silverton?

I moved back here, to Boulder. I got dragged to some awful show at the Boulder Theatre (Charlie Hunter), with a bunch of people standing around not even paying attention to the music.

This is the weird thing about the jam band scene. Most of the people I know who go to these shows walk around and socialize, meet people they saw half way across the country at some other lame show, and only intermittently notice the music.

Other than that, I am extremely happy. I've lived here before, when I could hardly bare it,but now I've got a decent job and can actually enjoy the place. Side note, this is one of the most fit conscious cities in the country, yet when I live here I pack on the pounds.

Family vacation in Steamboat Springs next week, meeting up with even more family. I've always had an irrational hatred of Colorado, so I admit I am prejudiced, but I'm also open to having my mind changed. So: what am I in for? Hippies? Bobos? Bozos? I'm sure it will be fun with fam regardless.