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I want to move there. There must be loads of people from London who post here. What are the pros and cons of the city, and does it rain like everyday?

What are the top universities if you're into the humanities and social science?

Any help is appreciated.

Boxcar (Crapstone), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Where are you moving FROM?

adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sweden

Boxcar (Crapstone), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's foggy guv, but the streets are paved with gold.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

no it doesn't rain that often, compared to countless other places

pros
natural epicentre of cultures
tons of great venues, galleries, museums, bars, clubs, shops, restaurants, landmarks and naturally beautiful areas
exciting place to be because of the variety of people and things happening
easy to meet people

cons
expensive living, with many things over-priced
pollution
temperamental and knackered public transport (the DLR is a modern marvel tho)
traffic
density of population can be so annoying at times
easy to feel alienated and detached from people

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

pros:
* It's easy to get out of for day trips to other places, if that's your thing

jel -- (jel), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

The 'top' universities are probably UCL and LSE (for social sciences), but someone who's actually been to them might dispute that. I went for an interview at UCL and really liked it, but decided I couldn't afford to live in London as a student.

Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

pros - Hamleys :-)

I heart London - actually on my first visit a few years ago I think I seen pelicans in a public park. I may be tripping, I could have dreamt it, but I'm so sure...

And it wasn't the zoo. Can anyone put me right?

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

You were probably in St James's Park, which I walk round every day and yes, there are pelicans. They freak me out a bit though, especially when they stand in the middle of the path just staring at you.

Except the one time when I bought people there to see the pelicans and suddenly, there were no pelicans.

It doesn't rain every day, and there are at least 40 of us posting here if meeting up and sitting in pubs is your kind of thing. Steve generally OTM.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

Is it true that all the pubs have to close at 11pm?! How long can the clubs be open?

Boxcar (Crapstone), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

Most pubs close at 11. It's because of the First World War, and it's really fucking annoying. An increasing ammount of pubs in central London are getting late licenses to stay open till 1 at the weekend, and the Government promises to change the laws soon, but if you trust a word that comes out of Blair's mouth you're a fool. Most clubs stay open till two or three, some longer.

Anyway, you should move to London. It's nice.

Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm more of a club person than pub person so that's okay. But I'm not against the idea of becoming a pub person after moving to London.

I'm most likely moving to London. I'm currently looking at universities.

Boxcar (Crapstone), Monday, 15 November 2004 18:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm moving there in Jan. and am already psychologically preparing myself for the sad fact that I will not be able to find tix for Gang of Four 1/28 Shepherd's Bush Empire.

Wondering whether living around King's Cross is a good idea (I've lived in Koreatown and Echo Park in LA before it became completely safe and family-ish so I'm notnecessarily panicky about relatively dodgy neighborhoods). I think I like east...I stayed in a flat in Columbia Road before but might need something more central.

Thea (Thea), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

King's Cross is perfectly safe - you have to be a bit careful, but that's true of pretty much any inner city area in the world. It is, however, a bit depressing. Not much green around.

I don't know East London very well. If you're willing to go South, the Brixton/Stockwell/Herne Hill area's lots of fun, and seems to be where loads of first-time Londoners move to.

Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

I love London, and I think the public transport is very good, compared to the other cities I've lived in (Bristol and Leicester). Top uni: definitely UCL, and the fact that I work there is not the sole reason for this view. (So does Starry, across the road from me, and Julio is just finishing his doctorate here, if you've hung around here long enough to recognise either of those names.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

columbia road is very central. about 15 minutes walk from the city.

............., Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

For arts and humanities look to Goldsmith's, UCL, Kings etc. Specifically for Arts the London Institute colleges are good and the RCA for post-grad.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

Univeristy College and Kings College seems ace but how hard is it to get accepted? Anyone know?

Boxcar (Crapstone), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

UCL has pretty high standards - average A Level points score is something like 22 or 23, but obviously it varies according to subject - humanities lower than medicine, say. Not sure about King's, but I would guess just a little lower. I don't know if you are someone who has just finished their A Levels.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

London is great but I've lived here most of my life so I'm used to it. Stevem otm about the pros and cons but the public transport isn't a total nightmare every day, just a bit of a pain sometimes. I do know people who have moved here from small towns and found it a bit intimidating but I think the key is to see London as a lot of villages all close together.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm not British so I dont do A-levels. I'm from Sweden and I'm 21(so I'm a mature student). When it comes to subjects(from high school) that are important to the courses I'm interested in I have the highest grade in, like like history, civics, geography.

Boxcar (Crapstone), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well that should work - they are used to dealing with foreign qualifications (I work in the kind of internal software house at UCL, even sometimes on the admissions system - but that doesn't mean I can help!).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 22:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Quuen Mary & Westfield is great for English

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 23:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

I hear Queen Mary is supposed to be exellent for politcal science too(which I'm interested in).

Boxcar (Crapstone), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 23:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

pros: lively capitol of America's most liberal state
cons: many whingey limeys

bum_clit, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 00:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

pros: no you

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

A definite pro, which I really miss now that I'm not living there, is the variety and frequency of cheap flights to all over Europe.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

Pro - London "pay premium" in many jobs.

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

...but balanced out by some of the steepest housing costs in the world.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

Not really - a lot of places (Edinburgh being a close one to my knowledge) isn't far off on housing costs, but with a significantly lower salary due to *quality of life* weighting.

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

The average house price in Edinburgh is £162,446 and in Greater London it's £287,342.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

It may seem as if house prices are expensive in Edinburgh, but relative to the proximity to the centre of town, it's nowhere near. My friend sold her 2 bed flat in Stockbridge for £260,000, but in London, a flat that nice, in such a nice area so close to town, would have been much more expensive than that. Given how long it takes me to get into work, the equivalent in edinburgh would be falkirk!

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

Average salary, Edinburgh vs London, Madchen? (I would look, but am having a crisis at work at present)

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

Not necessarily indicative, but average salary of academic staff at UCL: £31.4k, at Edinburgh Uni: £32.0k.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

That's pretty much what you'd expect, though, given that Edinburgh and UCL are on roughly the same level prestige-wise.

My friend sold her 2 bed flat in Stockbridge for £260,000

How long ago? I'd think something like that could well go for double that now.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yes, Caitlin, which is why it might be a good place to find the semi-mythical London weighting kicking in; similar institutions but apparently paying around the same despite the costlier environment of London.

(And London weighting, when it is available, is a piffling amount of money compared to housing costs; it hardly approaches the 77% gap in house prices highlighted by Madchen).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

Average salary in Edinburgh is £19,038 and in London it's £25,124 (from National Statistics Online).

So

Average house price in London is 1.77 x that in Edinburgh
Average salary in London is 1.32 x that in Edinburgh

But I'm rubbish with statistics so somebody else can manipulate the figures to demonstrate what they think about them.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

When I moved to Glasgow in February 2002 I reckoned that my salary was about a third less, but my rent was about halved.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

I was surprised when i looked in an estate agent's window in Bloomsbury at how reasonable the prices for studio flats in that area were, maybe that's cos the Edinburgh prices are getting so ridiculous and i'm using them as my benchmark. I'm glad i bought when i did, wouldn't be able to afford it now.

leigh (leigh), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

My position is quite weird - by moving to London I would be in a much better position to buy a property than I am in Edinburgh - maybe that is because I am actually moving to the market, rather than being in a single-employer job for the city I live in.

3underscore (___), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think the key is to see London as a lot of villages all close together.

This is the thing I really love about London.

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

Londoners...how does one report a black cab for refusing a fare? I've been googling but can't find a way to report it. Also he was driving while eating a kebab.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 4 October 2010 11:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

thanks guys...i've reported him. let the powers of official justice deal with him!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 4 October 2010 11:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Thursday, 23 December 2010 02:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

i am going to london in late april to visit some friends and 'hang'

anything i should be doin' there? fun things cool things?

day trips?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

You should be planning a FAP

And possibly seeing Lauryn Hill in concert

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wonder if lauryn would 'fancy a pint'

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly tho i have never met any london ilxors i dont think

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am going to be lookin' around for funnish stuff to do during the days while my friends are at work. should i take day trips anywhere?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

definitely do a beer with some of us. what sort of day trips do you have in mind?

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

im not sure haha! i just thought maybe like... day trips would be cool? ihavent seen any of england outside of london.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

except in movies.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oxford and Cambridge are easy day trips on the train. Worth seeing one or the other.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was thinking bout that ya!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 05:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just be aware that a round trip train ticket to Brighton costs approximately 1 million pounds

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, even in the off-season? (is april the off-season?)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lunchtime is about as off-season as it gets these days.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Coach is reasonably quick to oxford (90 mins) and about half the price of the train.

thread summary:
q) what should i do in london?
a) get the hell out!

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahah noooooo

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

train tickets are a lot more affordable when bought in advance, but then you're supposed to travel only on that specific train.

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Parks is a good idea, for things to do in london in actual london. Through Regent's Park and up Primrose Hill is a decent stroll ending with a good view over the city.

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am very into taking 'walks' (free, fun, photos)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

walking along the riverside, from e.g. battersea bridge to tower bridge, is kind of a must

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i will do that!!

excited to see what's playing at BFI! seeing l'atalante the last time i was in london, some years ago, was a highlight of my cinemagoing life

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

tmi probably but the river walk from battersea to vauxhall is a bit of a pain in the ass imo, lots of the riverfront is inaccessible and you can wind up getting lost in a maze of old industria and new sterile housing. but, it can be an adventure.

ledge, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah trains to brighton are not ridic expensive if booked well in advance. def worth popping down if the weather's nice. parks-wise i'd say hampstead heath is a must if you have a) good weather and b) some ppl to explore it with

jabba hands, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

the walk from finsbury park up to alexandra palace is great

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

without knowing what specifically is on where i'd recommend the south bank as a good place for visitors to hang. if the weather's nice it can be pretty chilled, there's usually a good exhibition or two around there as well as various interesting concerts etc in the evening.

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

more good walking to be had along the regents canal, pretty much any stretch between limehouse and little venice has got interesting things to look at and goes past lots of nice parks, pubs, etc.

jabba hands, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome! thanks for all this guys.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah trains to brighton are not ridic expensive if booked well in advance. def worth popping down if the weather's nice. parks-wise i'd say hampstead heath is a must if you have a) good weather and b) some ppl to explore it with

― jabba hands, Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:27 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is there a way of knowing in advance what the weather is going to be like?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.positiveweathersolutions.co.uk

Stevie T, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

s1ocki that question is at this very moment producing smirks all around the britILX

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

(haha i know i was joking)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i may try to see some theatre while i'm there too? has anyone seen anything good lately? do people still do that?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

the walk from finsbury park up to alexandra palace is great

Absolutely. Ally Pally to Hampstead Heath via Highgate Wood is excellent as well.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

more good walking to be had along the regents canal, pretty much any stretch between limehouse and little venice has got interesting things to look at and goes past lots of nice parks, pubs, etc.

i always feel weird walking along this stretch cuz it used to be my run. when i walk along it i'm like, why is it taking so long to get from one place to another? why am i going so slowly?

i may try to see some theatre while i'm there too? has anyone seen anything good lately? do people still do that?

yup there's always something good on! would recommend the fringe listings as well as the main west end ones. too many good theatres to list.

gah that reminds me, i am meant to be organising a theatre trip, i said i'd email people, um, 2 weeks ago

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

s1ocki the current issue of Time Out is all about how great London theatre is at the moment

i'd check out what's on at the Donmar Warehouse, Young Vic, Arcola, the National Theatre, etc etc

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome!!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to this in anticipaysh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is gonna sound weird but do time out london actually post their articles to their site? http://www.timeout.com/london/ seems to be just listings?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

ledge is wise upthread, don't bother with the battersea -> vauxhall bit

if you find yourself around buckingham palace, head over towards big ben, cross the river, then walk east along the river making your way towards tower bridge. you'll pass loads of galleries, museums and the areas around waterloo / london bridge stations are really good for finding good food, places like borough market, lower marsh.

go to richmond park, it's v posh & pretty. if you're here on the 2nd, go to 'boat-ting' and hang out with improv legends on a boat. on the 3rd it's 'first thursdays' where the galleries open late in east london. walking the canals around east london isn't particularly nice but i really enjoy it for it's griminess. we once started in old street at the 'wenlock arms' which has good ale selection then walked along the canal passing through hoxton, shoreditch, dalston, london fields and then ended up at the nice bit around victoria park. if you're feeling really brave and fancy it you can carry on to the olympic park, passing through all the hackney wick warehouse area, which is also horrible, but i like all that stuff

okay i'm going to stop now because it's just depressing that i don't have the time/money to do these things myself!!

pagan diskow (Crackle Box), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

i will be there through may 4th so looks like i could do those things on the 2nd and 3rd, though i am not QUITE sure what "hang out with improv legends on a boat" means?? comedy improv? or musical improv?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.boat-ting.co.uk/

always good :)

pagan diskow (Crackle Box), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cor, Veryan Weston! Don't think I've ever seen him play and I shd see some improv this year. Might need to go.

Also Cafe Oto is gd for music, as w/Boat-ting depends on your taste:

http://www.cafeoto.co.uk/programme.shtm

For more evening thingies: tricycle and riverside are always good for a mix of theatre/cinema/dance. Told v nice things re: rich mix. Check their programme and there might be something you'd want to go along to.

Late Apr at the BFI looks gd: David Holzman's Diary is a pick, but there's some good things in their 'studio' room that opened about 2-3 years ago I think (L'Atalante ws screened there in a shiny new print but I missed it)

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oops you said May 4th so scrap the BFI pick. Always click on their site on the 1st day of the month to check.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i looked at some BFI offerings while i'm there (after an amazing experiencing watching l'atalante there, did i mention that in this thread?) and there's some interesting stuff incl THIEF OF BAGHDAD

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes you did, hence why I mentioned the new print.

Thief of Baghdad = also good.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

that would be a fun one to see on the big screen!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Other daytrip possibilities I would recommend: Whitstable (fishing town with lovely old buildings, pebble beach), Rye (similar but set on a hill above a salt marsh which gives it a very isolated atmosphere, with Camber Sands and Dungeness nearby- Dungeness is a weird headland with a nuclear power plant and lots of beach shacks dotted around a pebble beach which is a bit like a moonscape); Lewes (near Brighton, great big castle, a large tourable brewery, interesting shops, good pubs & restaurants); Warwick Castle (another huge castle). Oxford & Cambridge also recommended.

You could also go to another big city for a daytrip- Bristol, Birmingham, Manchester, Nottingham, Liverpool and Sheffield are all just about doable (each c. 2hrs on the train), but if you do that definitely book in advance.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

all of those sound like great places to take pictures and stare into the distance and think about wg sebald and scribble stuff in my notebook i wont be able to make out later.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

is there any great travel book re: london or any of these day trips any of yall know about?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Derek Jarman had a cottage in Dungeness, innit?

Kent is really good for a day trip in spring/summer (of course its utterly depressing at most other times). xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Dungeness was Jarman territory.

Whitstable & Rye definitely Sebald-esque, but you could go to the Suffolk coast for the real thing- Rings of Saturn is set round there IIRC, but I don't know that part of the world at all. Dunwich, the town now under the sea, was on that part of the coast.

Re. guides: Time Out London city guide is good. I have one called "London by Pub", which is basically a load of pub crawls plus some incidental stuff about architecture.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

This obviously is no use for travel plans, but 20 degrees!

Virtual Bart (EDB), Friday, 23 March 2012 10:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

ooh here's another daytrip suggestion: Blenheim Palace in Woodstock, nr. Oxford. Gigantic Vanbrugh country house, with Capability Brown grounds. Proper Hanoverian Ascendancy architecture-as-power stuff.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 23 March 2012 10:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

unlucky s1ocki, we're having summer in march this year

jabba hands, Friday, 23 March 2012 10:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, you can get to the middle of Paris in like 2 hours.

Virtual Bart (EDB), Friday, 23 March 2012 11:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would love to visit paris again (lived there for a little bit), is the train affordable at all?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

we're kind of having summer in march over here too, it's a bit weird!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

again booking in advance is advisable- if you do so you could get tix for £90 return. On the day would be £200+.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

cheapest return from london is £69 iirc

just sayin, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's not terrible.

what are your thoughts on mega-cheap airlines?

do those still exist?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost and s1ocki if you make it out to whitstable you should eat something here imo. it is fucking great

just sayin, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

ooh lala!!!

any and all food suggestions are welcome to, i am a food writer and i love to eat so 'foodie' stuff is definitely on my agenda

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

the cheap airlines still exist! i think the thing is just that the train is so much easier, you go from the centre of london to the centre of paris.

just sayin, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

right, the cheap airlines don't let you bring bags and you're not allowed to pee and you have to bring food for the cabin crew right?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp and so much nicer, you sit on a train

ledge, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

any and all food suggestions are welcome to, i am a food writer and i love to eat so 'foodie' stuff is definitely on my agenda

oooohh london restaurants are some of my favourite things. you want to know more about high end stuff or cheap local ethnic food (which is often just as good)?

there's a london restaurants thread which should be a good starting point if you can bear the occasional smug tone, also of late it's just devolved into burger talk because there's an inexplicable and apparently unending burger obsession going on right now. ignore all that.

lex pretend, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol but also otm

just sayin, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha lex, i want to hear about both and i would be happy to grab a bite with you if you have free time!

i might even pitch an article about 'em in which case we may eat on whatever publication i can coerce into publishing me's dime!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

burgers in london, i can probably do without.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would be happy to eat with you too, that would be awesome! god i don't even know where to START recommending though, i have all my local and regular favourites but i still feel like i've barely scratched the surface, and my favourite thing is checking out places i haven't been.

a while ago some friends of mine were gonna do a project which involved eating out in london to represent every country in the world. it never got finished cuz the girl organising it got deported (to canada, lol) but i still kind of want to steal her idea and finish it sometime.

lex pretend, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe i can show you how to cook (JOKES)

but yeah, think on it, i would love to hear any and all suggestions.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is gonna sound weird but do time out london actually post their articles to their site? http://www.timeout.com/london/ seems to be just listings?

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does anyone know about this? would love to read that london theater scene article tracer mentioned

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know, their website is super confusing.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think if you go to the 'theatre' page there's something called 'theatre features' that might contain the article Tracer mentioned but as i haven't read the article tracer mentioned i can't really confirm.

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

thank u good idea.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Xxpost

Let's start 202 meals again, sure M&A won't mind if it means someone else is doing the organising.

Moon Fuxx (Jill), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

A friend and I have been doing the all-nations food thing too, though because neither of us actually live in London it's going quite slowly. Last month we ticked off "Cockney".

James Bond Jor (seandalai), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

u bought some crisps?

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pie/mash/eel bonanza

James Bond Jor (seandalai), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

o eely

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

id forgot abt eelpienmash

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

First off we went to Manze's which was fun (provided you like jellied eel), then later on we tried F. Cooke's in Shoreditch, which was empty, cold and a bit grim overall.

James Bond Jor (seandalai), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't been yet but I've heard good things..

mmmm, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's a fair drive from London though.

mmmm, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

me & my buddy were thinking of renting a car and makin' a day of it.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I went to Manze's once with an American visitor but they'd run out of eels! We had pie & mash which tbh was digusting, so I've not been tempted to go back in search of eels since.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, where do I find really nice eyeglass frames?

EDB, Monday, 26 March 2012 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was here on Sunday; http://www.cutlerandgross.com/ Nice selection.

mmmm, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 08:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was there on Sunday too!

Seems like that's the best (only good) place I've been able to find. Since my misplaced glasses aren't turning up I will likely return soon.

EDB, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are some others, this place had a good selection last time I was there; http://www.mallonandtaub.com/

mmmm, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey guys i have a question!!!

i am thinking of unlocking my iphone and getting a uk sim card while i'm there. are there any particularly decent pay-as-you-go things i could jump on for some voice/text/data so i don't get totally reamed by my canadian carrier if i use my phone? (their overseas plans are ridic.)

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Xpost: Thanks, I had planned to go there today but completely forgot what it was called. Fortuitous timing!

I currently have a pay-as-you-go as you go phone, for which I pay 5 pounds a month for data (with free incoming calls); for 15 you can get voice and text and unlimited data which you're likely to not use up. Mind you I use an Android phone, so I have no idea how this applies; this is also with 3, who have irritated me enough with little things to not want to recommend them.

I'm curious about unlocking also, since my phone is made only to be used with 3, but I'd like to keep it when I move back to Canada in September.

EDB, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

15 pounds sounds pretty reasonable for like 2 weeks of 'full phone' use while i'm there

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

yo EDB i have repped for this place in camden market before, but the guy who runs this place is wonderful. all his frames are vintage, and most are cheaper than new. no proper web site at the moment but just go! you will be delighted and amazed.

http://www.arckiv.net/

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

slocki, I have a spare and activated giffgaff sim card I could send you. £10 gets you 250 min + unlimited texts and internet for a month.

salsa shark, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

(are all eyewear web sites so shockingly poor? those first two had flash splashscreens. the last one appears to just be an image containing nothing but text.)

koogs, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

freals?? that would be rad! how do i like... charge it up or whatevs?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmm well I probably should've researched that earlier, because I had thought it might be possible to just top-up with the £10 package online before arriving so it would all be ready when you landed. Now that I'm reading about it, apparently with giffgaff you can't use non-uk credit/debit cards to top up online. So, once in London you'd have to get a credit voucher (loads of places sell them) and use the voucher to top up online. it's all still doable, just a bit less convenient.

salsa shark, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

koogs i actually offered to help that guy build a web site he could sell frames online with, and he was initially enthuasiastic but eventually just sort of dropped away

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think people who get into stuff like seeking out vintage eyeglasses in dusty italian warehouses probably don't have a lot of overlap with people who get into making nice web sites

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm surprised that a thread just called "london" has so few posts.

my suggestions for a london day out


10:00 wake up
10:25 grab a mcD sausage and egg muffin to line stomach
11:00 get 6 cans of lagers for £5* from an offie
11:30 go to south bank and drink cans of lager
15:00 get lunch - meat liquor maybe while there's no queue. burgers are overhyped but it's nice and get the house grog to supplement the lagers
17:00 go to a sam smiths and drink the cheap alpine lagers (you'll be pissed enough to stomach those by now)
21:30 go to rowan's in finsbury park to go bowling for a couple of hours
23:00 get a KFC on your way home
23:15 eat the KFC
23:30 order a curry
00:00 go down in the tube station at midnight

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ if i can plan my death, this will be the way it happens.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

+ maybe a couple of games of DDR around 14:00 at namco station first.
+ maybe four season to eat roast duck instead of meat liquor. or dinner before rowan's but without foregoing the KFC

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

second all of this advices but prob would split the s bank drinking with one of london's royal parks (st james') for a bit of variation.

you also missed out boris biking which is required booze transportation.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

truth bomb re: boris biking. only thing i missed about not living in central anymore.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, obv mcD brekkie and KFC are not uniquely london experiences - however neither is waking up, but one still needs to sleep and eat KFC.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am still upset that McDonald's in the UK got rid of the plain old 'sausage mcmuffin' (the one without the egg).

Asking for 'sausage and egg mcmuffin but without the egg' always makes me feel like a jackass.

salsa shark, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Might seem an obvious question but I've tried hard on this. Where in London can I get decent second hand furniture, or I guess new furniture that isn't horrible. I really want a wooden fairly simple table/desk for my room, and some other stuff possibly. Have tried Gumtree and endless Googling, and Brick Lane etc.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

yr local freecycle?

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

there used to be these ace warehouses somewhere out along the north circular where you could buy second-hand furniture and furnishings from london hotels, stuff that had been sold off whenever rooms got redesigned. dunno if they're still there, though.

uh oh i'm having an emotion (c sharp major), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

My first stop for these things is the five-floor secondhand furniture place in Crystal Palace (http://crystalpalaceantiques.com/index.html - it's a good mix of cheap and cheerful and fancy vintage, according to taste) but I recognise that that's a tricky, or at least lengthy, journey for you LG.

Tim, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 08:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

The answer I have found is Brighton.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

2nd hand furniture in London reminds me of Butler's Furniture in Shadwell. Classic place. http://spitalfieldslife.com/2009/11/06/butlers-furniture/

mmmm, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's a good place underneath the railway arches next to London Fields rail station where the guy can be haggled with (a bit)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

you could try some auction rooms. criterion on essex road do weekly sales on a monday afternoon, you can view all the lots from thursday the week before. lots of tat but some ridiculous bargains too - we got a very nice, huge sofa in perfect condition for £60. plus it's fun sticking your hand up and bidding for things.

jabba hands, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

sign up to islington east freecycle there's always stuff going all the time

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are probably other freecycles that are the same

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

camden south has nothing though, unless you like filing cabinets

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

get 6 cans of lagers for £5* from an offie

I've been away for a year, I get back and it seems to have gone up to £5.50. Bleak times.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure it's Cameron's fault.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's still possible! You just have to be prepared to buy something fairly grotty from somewhere fairly grotty.

I need a driving instructor. Is anyone able to recommend me one?

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

17:00 go to a sam smiths and drink the cheap alpine lagers (you'll be pissed enough to stomach those by now)

warning – you'll have to drink a lot of it – abv cut to 2.8% last autumn.

woof, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

WHAT? Country's gone to the bleedin dogs mate.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had four driving lessons as a refresher last year. 10 years no driving left me rusty. I went with Mutual (E London). Didn't really get on with the first guy, he told me I was rubbish and grabbed the wheel off me at one point. For the second and subsequent lessons I had a big scottish guy, into football, who was great. Laid back and helpful. I can't remember his name now though. Finding a decent driving instructor is tough.

mmmm, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sam Smiths pubs are now close to full price. Therefore, no point ever going to one again.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I still think some of them have their charms, I'm a big fan of the Cittie of York and old faithful Glasshouse Stores, even if I haven't been in the latter in ages.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's been mad beer inflation in London of late though (blame craft beer, the_recession, whatever) - SS beer is probably as far behind the top end as its ever been.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't mind the cock tavern off regent street tbh but I've definitely reduced my visits. Their stout isn't a bad alternative to guinness imo - not similar, obv, just not horrible.

Otoh although I've been a student again for nearly eighteen months now it was only two weeks ago that I went to the University of London Union bar for the first time. Five pints for £7.50 is just ridiculous.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Price aside, SS pubs still tend to have a better atmosphere than the vast majority of West End boozers.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

get 6 cans of lagers for £5* from an offie
I've been away for a year, I get back and it seems to have gone up to £5.50. Bleak times.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:52 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm sure it's Cameron's fault.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha! the * after £5 was actually going to be the footnote saying exactly that!! something like (* more likely to be £5.50 - bloody Tories innit)

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bring Back Brown's Broken Britain

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's true about Sam Smiths - dearer than ever before, but then so is everything else
the lager is good and distinctive
so are the specials like cherry beer
and yes, they do have a different atmosphere which I still tend to like.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the beer really now 2.8%??

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

swap sam smiths with a wetherspoons, then

Rosie 47 (ken c), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp

yeah - pointed out to me just before leaving the bricklayers a few weeks ago, feeling surprisingly sober.

These people seem to be up on it all

woof, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

It was about 2.20 in Sam pubs pre-Christmas, it's now at least 3 quid, at least for a lager. For me that jump means I'd rather go somewhere with decent food, better beer, and nicer atmos. They're not bad pubs but at 3 quid I reckon it's about 80p or so cheaper than a pint of something decent; in somewhere that's definitely nicer.

Mind you the one I frequented most was The Rising Sun near Barbican, plenty of nice alternatives around there.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Drinking round the Barbican and not going to the Old Red Cow is straight-up wasteful IMO.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

always too busy imo. it is small.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

or just bring a six pack into the barbican?

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

a six pack of toilet duck

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

when it's payday

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

la dee da

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

time was you would joke about drinking a six pack of toilet duck in the street

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

really cleaned up the street

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is this the London thread?

Did you see this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/magazine/china-mieville-london.html?emc=eta1

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

/\/\/\

Say something about it

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i read that and wasnt sure what to think

what should i think

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 04:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

should i cancel my trip

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 04:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Definitely, you don't want to hang out with racists and alcoholics.

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 04:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

"eyes roll with the duh".

Fizzles, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Say something about it

it's not interesting enough to, really. mostly it reminded me that i don't get along with miéville's prose at all.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 07:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fluff piece that ran alongside it (what are the LDN equivs of these NYC things iirc) was actually more interesting

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 07:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The mayor is a ninja of bumptiousness"

koogs, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 08:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lex otm, esp re: the fluff. Such an effort to read and although I recall vaguely agreeing with him I can't remember a single specific thing that he says.

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

read the first page and had no idea what thesis he was attempting to expound, beyond a few 'pensions! strikes! olympics!' handwaving signifiers.

God arrives for the apocalypse, having been traveling at the speed of (ledge), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not written for Londoners really though is it? I mean most of us will be familiar with most of the arguments and issues in it.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

/Say something about it/

it's not interesting enough to, really. mostly it reminded me that i don't get along with miéville's prose at all.

this x 1000. absolutely convinced he dictates his novels, and what interested me about the article most was how its prose hobbles along.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 09:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Are you all posting from the banlieues of London? Is there anything I can do to help?

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

suggest banlieu

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha very good

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

ty

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

banlieuy jagger

Rosie 47 (ken c), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah thats great

judith, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink


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