who is the most curmudgeonly man on ILX?

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RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

who is the most curmudgeonly man on ILX?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

who is the most curmudgeonly man on ILX?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

not me.

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

x-post.

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

That dumb guy I hate

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

Me I mean

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link

The first one who jumped into my mind is unlikely to be a contender right at the moment, what with being on his honeymoon just now.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link

There was a Nirvana song called Curmudgeon, I always misread it as Cumagedon.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

Eisbär

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

nah, not Eisbär

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago) link

I'm a bit curmudgeonly. But I'm not a man.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

what are the necessary qualities for curmudgeonliness?

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

RJG has moments of curmudgeonry.

Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

That was a real nomination, I just wanted to say 'curmudgeonry'.

Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

sadly he doesn't meet the manliness quota!

(xpost)

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

curmudgeon - bad tempered, stubborn kinda like Victor Meldrew.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

"An ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions" or "a crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas" according to dictionary.com

x-post

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

wow. worse than I thought.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

maybe we should come back to this question in 30, 40 or 50 years from now, and see who is the most bad tampered and stubborn out of all of us.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

amateur!st

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

(wasN'T a real nomination, I meant)

Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

bad tempered, stubborn kinda like Victor Meldrew.

why not "like Van Morrison"?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

haha I would have said amateur¡st but I didn't want him to take it as an insult, which it is, because I like him.

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

strongo thinks it's him, but it's really me

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

no it's not!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't actually realise about the bad-tempered-ness of it before (i have been accused of being curmudgeonly by several people, and tend to not take it as an insult) - I kind of think of curmudgeons as being amusingly grumpy folks rather than crotchety old bastards. Which is why I'm not going to nominate Mr Lasagne anymore.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago) link

certainly not Alex in new york

Aaron A., Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

fatherhood has made him soft.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

My idea of a curmudgeon isn't as nasty as dictionary.com's. I think of it as more harmless grinch than mean-spirited bigot. Like when my dad tuts at the television, mutters something grumpily and trudges upstairs at half past ten.

Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

women can't be curmudgeons? < /curmudgeon>

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

I think women do surly better rather than curmudgeonly.

Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

Women can be curmudgeons. It's just that the thread asked who was the most curmudgeonly man on ILX?

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

nice grumpy old men = cuddlyudgeons

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 25 April 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

me right now.

pete s, Sunday, 25 April 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

amateur!st

-- Eisbär (llamasfu...) (webmail), April 25th, 2004 9:23 AM. (llamasfur) (later) (link)


why???

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

curmudgeon only - the good natured need not apply

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

come on people. obviously the resident curmudgeon is Chris Barrus. Hello!!!!

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

Would you people keep it quiet in there! Young people these days!

Michael White (Hereward), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link

Not M*m_s then?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

not a bit of it! he's more like the enigmatic garden gnome.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

With a tangy smile indicating he's being severely rogered just out of your veiw.

omg, Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

My idea of 'curmudgeonly' is pretty much the same as dictionary.com's, though the 'old' bit seems a bit ageist and unnecessary. It's one of those words that people seem to have odd ideas about. I forget what Nickie thought it meant but it was something quite odd. I think she was confused by Lee & Herring.

Basically, it = hating fun.

I thought strongo was the curmudgeon-in-chief of ILX.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

Webster's Unabridged Dictionary defines curmudgeon as 'a bad-tempered, difficult, cantankerous person' -- so even though the term is usually applied to old men doesn't mean it has to be.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

that definition also doesn't fit amateurist at all

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

dave q then?

oops (Oops), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

its an unattractive trait. sometimes it can be amusing and distracting for a short period, but then it become cliche. avoid

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

marc*llo.

mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

finally!

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

i would nominate myself, but i dont post enough, and i am much worse in person to strangers in real life.

todd swiss (eliti), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

and i am a redundant motherfucker too

todd swiss (eliti), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

Marcello is a wally, not a curmudgeon.

Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

[points to self]

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

Ooh - is 'wally' back?

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/imgdata/4577020823.jpg

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

i always think of curmudgeon as being 'bad-tempered, difficult, cantankerous etc', but in a cuddly sort of way. when i hear 'curmudgeon' i sort of think it implies a fondness for the grump in question. as for the question, uh, there have been some good suggestions above.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

I vote for Aja.

andrew 'dean!' clay (deangulberry), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

I think that's just cause we find it hard to take curmudgeons seriously.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

That was in reply to Kilian, sorry.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

dean, are you suggesting that aja isnt really a 13 year old girl? insanity!

todd swiss (eliti), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

That's three people now who haven't agreed with the dictionary definition of "curmudgeon". Is it the fault of sitcom scriptwriters? I think of Richard Briers in Ever Decreasing Circles, Victor Meldrew, Alf Garnett, Steptoe etc whenever I hear the word "curmudgeon" and the humour seems to go hand in hand with the grumpiness.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

oochy wally.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

i was only joking when i said "amateurist," btw. (i did it mostly b/c he had posted immediately before i had.)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 25 April 2004 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

It is an unfortunate coincidence that curmudgeon rhymes with gudgeon, leading the naive to associate 'a species of small fish' and its inherent harmlessness, with 'a misanthrope instructed by long experience' -- and don't even ask me about the misconstructions that attend the word 'sourpuss'. They are many and egregious.

Your true curmudgeon has quaffed deeply from the bitter springs of life and has adapted himself accordingly, unlike all you callow, shallow, doe-eyed naifs who think it will only get better if you try harder, or some such milk-fed, weak-kneed Sunday-schoolism. Fie on you!

The most curmudgeonly man on ILX is a namby-pamby goody two-shoes compared to the correct yardstick. Why, you wet-behind-the-ears greensick fools couldn't put together a complete curmudgeon, even if you pooled parts into a composite and then lied on its resume.

Harrumph!

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 26 April 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

Curmudgeon also rhymes with Gus Dudgeon.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 26 April 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link

Mark C is a total curmudgeon. So negative.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 26 April 2004 08:21 (twenty years ago) link

He's a complex man - in theory he's in favour of fun.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 08:22 (twenty years ago) link

It's this conflict which makes him so compelling to viewers.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 26 April 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago) link

Mark C veers between the extremes of curmudgeonry and extreme excitement and overenthusiasm. Chris revels in his curmudgeonry.

Anyway, I nominate Nicole as most curmudgeonly person on ILE.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 April 2004 08:28 (twenty years ago) link

I was going to say Nicole, but I thought she wasn't a man. I'm so naive.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago) link

don't try it, Dicky.

Wally Klemmer, Monday, 26 April 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

"An ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions" or "a crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas" according to dictionary.com

I vote for me

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

I think more people think you're a wanker.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:06 (twenty years ago) link

trife

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't everyone a wanker?

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 26 April 2004 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

monks

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:43 (twenty years ago) link

Eunuchs.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:44 (twenty years ago) link

the paraplegic

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha, Ronan, can always rely on you to take a mature approach to things

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

haha!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 26 April 2004 09:47 (twenty years ago) link

don't qualify it.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 26 April 2004 09:52 (twenty years ago) link

Not M*m_s then?

If I seem to contradict and put contrary views, it is with the smiling patience of a man who knows that the ultimate triumph of international socialism is a scientific inevitability (and who is also being severely rogered just out of of view).

I second Darn-to-hell.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 26 April 2004 10:37 (twenty years ago) link

Curmudgeonliness suggests mild bad-temper arising from misanthropy, cynicism and world-weariness. Rather than extreme bad temper arising from envy, narcissism, neurosis and "ressentiment". Not Marcello, therefore.

Petridish, Monday, 26 April 2004 10:56 (twenty years ago) link

hulkington, fux0rs

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

He's a complex man - in theory he's in favour of fun.

Magnificent.

the blissfox, Monday, 26 April 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

But Momus you will as a man of science and truth you will recognize that there is much objective truth that simply doesn't break down into simple rational principles accessible to limited human logic. With time you will become aware of greater realities, and the access to them faith provides. Yes you will look for authority to guide you back to a moral life- God.

But I digress, Ive gotta be in the running surely? The smiley will seal it.

Peace ;)

kiwi, Monday, 26 April 2004 11:31 (twenty years ago) link

We atheists prefer to solve our own problems ourselves because THERE IS NO HIGHER POWER. God is instead seen as a massive cop-out and form of prole control.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago) link

them pies is flyin

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

A starlit or a moonlit dome disdains
All that man is,
All mere complexities,
The fury and the mire of human veins.


xpost

Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:38 (twenty years ago) link

As a man of science I can tell you that a curmudgeon is a cross between a cormorant and a pigeon. That much is certain.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

an alternative definition of cormorant is "A greedy, rapacious person" and an alternative definition of pigeon is "One who is easily swindled; a dupe."

hmm....

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

not a winning combination

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

perhaps this combination can best be described as Bilkonic.

Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

"dupacious"

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 April 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

I second Darn-to-hell.

Just to be a curmudgeon about it, that'd be a mispronunciation - my last name rhymes with "Tarheel" if you scanned it as an iamb instead of a trochee.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 26 April 2004 12:20 (twenty years ago) link

http://home.iprimus.com.au/spud1/Tumbler_Koros.JPG

This much I know to be true.

Kiwi, Monday, 26 April 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

I KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW this MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link

I nominate the anti-Ned.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, I'll vote for that. Um, who is this person?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

He is the little man behind the scenes. He is the mover and the shaker.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

it's me. i just don't show it.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

He knows your deepest, darkest secrets.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

pah. back to lurking. grumble grumble, mutter mutter.

see?
told you so, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

VengaDan, that sounds like the protagonist from every Siouxsie and the Banshees song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

"Please......no.........not the anti-Ned!!!"

"I'm afraid so"

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

you know on irc, the /ignore setting? do you get that on here, too?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

He will menace you with his horrifying baby-arm.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

It's all so clear now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

His hump has crushed nations; the drool on his chain inspires terror in one hundred languages.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

I read this as "he humps nations"
time for coffee.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

It is said he makes his enemies walk only through riddle, having removed their legs.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

He once killed a man just to watch him vainly attempt to stuff his intestines back into the gaping hole in his midriff.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Groo the Wanderer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link

the anti-ned is bald with sideburns.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

is he Scott Ian from Anthrax, then?

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

that'd be cool, Anthrax rule!

jel -- (jel), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I was about to say! I like him! And he lives nearby anyway, over in HB.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago) link

Does Scott Ian have a baby arm?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

We could graft one onto him.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

good times

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

Leave your baby arms behind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

twelve years pass...

A series of polls broken down by continent (had considered by major theme but overlap and difficulties with classifications) leading to (let's face it) us politics curmudgeon #1 the beloved morbs with warts and all realness and several hundred years of excellent movie recs and the eventual uk politics contender who is to be determined but is more likely than not indiscernible as an entity aside from being a pissy no-content collection of bad university activist cliches and shrivelling oncoming high level misanthropy.

Prob requires a bonus royal rumble surprise entry of banned/departed noteworthies that could be submitted undr random headings deemed noteworthy enough by the committee

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link

But rly i spose im asking

Did we ever get this sorted

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link

no honorable mentions for the most curmudgeonly woman on ilx, eh? an oversight, no doubt.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 26 June 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link

i've called for ilx going full meta for a while - countless polls about which poster is the most or least this or that

Treeship, Sunday, 26 June 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Youre showing yr youth

Aimless- i took it for granted that women were included and certainly we'd have some in the bonus category (indeed theres scope there for a few multiple award winners) but not imo in the running for the main event though imo if the lamented estela had ever chosen to go full 'mudge we would live yet under the thrall of a great dark queen but for good or ill she passed on the power of that ring when tested and we do not speak of her now except in wearied sighs

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 08:14 (seven years ago) link

aye. estela restrained the full force of her curmudgeonly talents for the good of humankind, which conclusively proves the milk of kindness ran abundantly in her.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 26 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

I prefer to think she was under a court order from before

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

everyone here is a fucking curmudgeon, handing out medals for it is a dimwit project, and fp for citing a quality poster so soon after a literally worthless one

oh, amazonaws (wins), Sunday, 26 June 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

I mentioned an unspecified contending group u curmudgeon

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

"ppl who aren't the worst ever"

oh, amazonaws (wins), Sunday, 26 June 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

;-)

oh, amazonaws (wins), Sunday, 26 June 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link

i do not have high level misanthropy dammit

Inglan is a Bitch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

Oncoming man u in denial

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link

this country is probably utterly fucked and will never get better in my lifetime because that's how enough fuckers like it and this referendum is only a tiny bit of that

― Inglan is a Bitch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL NV. A shade curmudgeonly perhaps?

They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 June 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

mere real talk your honour

Inglan is a Bitch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 June 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

Tudge of 'mudge, judge

EU don't negotiate with errorists (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 June 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

bit of mudge about the place again, mudge to kill rising

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 January 2017 23:43 (seven years ago) link

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mudge

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 12 January 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link

Your true curmudgeon has quaffed deeply from the bitter springs of life and has adapted himself accordingly, unlike all you callow, shallow, doe-eyed naifs who think it will only get better if you try harder, or some such milk-fed, weak-kneed Sunday-schoolism. Fie on you!

The most curmudgeonly man on ILX is a namby-pamby goody two-shoes compared to the correct yardstick. Why, you wet-behind-the-ears greensick fools couldn't put together a complete curmudgeon, even if you pooled parts into a composite and then lied on its resume.

Harrumph!

― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, April 25, 2004

I see it was on a Sunday in springtime, the only pretty ring time. Meanwhile, Morbs has been slaying all competition for months now.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 13 January 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link

how could it be anyone but our beloved morbius?

marcos, Friday, 13 January 2017 02:17 (seven years ago) link

in fairness ive him listed as the champ against whom all contenders must be tested

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Friday, 13 January 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link


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