Jimmy Saville is still alive...

Revive!

He still is!

I always wanted to fly in a Harrier Jump Jet on Jim'll Fix It when I was a kid. Obviously classic, if only for the kid that got to sing 'If The Kids Are United' with Sham 69.

he invented DJing.

He did too. Stone cold classic.

Weirdo

Sir Jimmy mugged for his glasses

Sir Jimmy said he would give his mugger a box of chocolates
Sir Jimmy Savile has been mugged by a woman in Leeds - but described it as a "marvellous" experience.
The veteran star, aged 81, said the female thief made off with his John Lennon-style glasses as he was leaving a function at the Queens Hotel.

Sir Jimmy has reported it to police but compared his experience to when he was chased by fans in the 1960s.

"The fact I've not been mugged for over 50 years, I thought it was marvellous, it was just like old times," he said.

The former DJ and TV presenter, who lives in Roundhay, said he was walking down the hotel's corridor at about midnight on Wednesday when the woman pounced.

'Gave me a thrill'

"She was walking alongside me and the next thing she reaches up - I thought she was going to give me an embrace but she grabbed my glasses and took off down the corridor," he said.

"I thought, I've been mugged. How wonderful."

Sir Jimmy said that the unexpected theft hadn't left him unable to see as he has a spare pair of glasses.

He added: "I've told the police that if the girl turns up and I get my glasses back, I will give her a box of chocolates for giving me a 1950s thrill in 2007."

y'all missed this.

I bet he had the tracksuit on too.

RIP

"She was walking alongside me and the next thing she reaches up - I thought she was going to give me an embrace but she grabbed my glasses and took off down the corridor," he said.

"I thought, I've been mugged. How wonderful."

So did he fix it or what?

Sir Jimmy Savile has been reunited with his glasses days after they were snatched by a female prankster.
British Transport Police (BTP) have fixed it for the veteran star to get his John Lennon style spectacles back.

The glasses were snatched from Sir Jimmy's face as he left a function at the Queen's Hotel in Leeds last week.

The 81-year-old, who lives in the city's Roundhay area, compared the experience to being chased by fans in the 1960s and said it was "marvellous".

'String vests'

Sir Jimmy told the BBC that it was good old fashioned detective work that had tracked down his glasses.

He said officers had found out the woman's identity and tracked her down to a bar in Leeds over the weekend where they retrieved his glasses.

A spokeswoman for BTP said the woman had snatched his spectacles as "a bit of a prank" and that no further action would be taken against her.

Sir Jimmy said: "If this lady wants a souvenir, I do a good line in wearing string vests and if she wants to wrestle it off me then that's perfectly fine."

today seems to be the Saville day, for some reason.

Owowowowowowoo Mr Forever Guy Clif-FORD Rich-ARD going down one place at. A. Time as befitting a good re-CORD Wind Me Up Open Brackets Let Me Go Close Brackets You See Uncle Ted the one and OWN-ly Mr P J Pro Bee goodness gracious naughty Mr Sir Judge Dread sir SEE NO REA SON Dignified Don

Dognified Ding!

Over my dead body.

A girl I used to go out with was a nurse at one of the hospitals Jimbo volunteered at, she said he was creepy creepy creepy, none of the nurses ever wanted to be left alone in the same room as him

I remember a popbitch rumour about him, which my comment refers to.

Oh, yeah there's a 'thinly disguised' character in an Irvine Welsh book, etc...

THE SAVILE I KNEW WAS NO <CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT>

Yeah, but that was Peter Saville, right?

It might have been Jimmy Pursey.

I have a phone number in my phone which belonged to a friend of mine before me, which said friend claims to be the actual phone number of Jimmy Savile. It doesn't work, but my pal swears he has talked to Jimmy Savile on it in the past. There's a story of why he would at least theoretically have his phone number, but I can't remember what it is.

Is he a mortician?

haha, no.

says he's a beautician...

...not that I understand what you mean at all, oh no, hello lawyers!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/25/article-1154984-03A97ED3000005DC-871_468x614.jpg

man number four in "blur my face plz", um... grin.

Saville breaking the law I see.

He's got skates on as well

I thought Sutcliffe was Adam Buxton for a second.

That's a very strange handshake, btw.

Where is frank's thumb?

(Surely not freemasons!)

full story: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2270180.ece

I've gotta rep for the Ripper keeping his trademark hair and beard all these years, instead of shaving and getting a bit of an easier life maybe.

Posted by: Refo

Shame on you Frank, whats next..shake hands with the suicide bombers..???

I can't fathom why Jimmy Saville would want to hang around with someone famous for murdering women and carelessly dumping the bodies around Yorkshire

This photo was taken 18 years ago, he might have got rid of the beard by now. Also Saville probably not breaking the law.

Grim Gordon Brown has put his foot down and said that Sutcliffe will never be released.

Great! We can ignore all expert opinions, stop hiring doctors and professionals and allow the tabloids to dictate Government policy. The same tabloids who pay 13-year-old criminals, put them on their front pages and encourage others to do the same.

Which "13-year-old criminals"?

ALL OF THEM!!!

After chatting to Ronnie, Big Frank spotted the Yorkshire Ripper leaning back on a window ledge.

Damn, Broadmoor was one long party back in the 90s.

the romance of the prison system

the horror of realising that '18 years ago' is now 1991

Why do all the posters on The Sun HYS think that Sutcliffe has never stood trial? Very odd.

I've gotta rep for the Ripper keeping his trademark hair and beard all these years, instead of shaving and getting a bit of an easier life maybe.

Beard hides scars from when he was attacked in Parkhurst.

Great bit of publicity there for Capital Gold.

Sutcliffe is travelling through time on a magical island!

http://z.about.com/d/lost/1/0/o/Y/-/-/Daniel-Phone.jpg

While also working as a traffic warden...

apparently at first the guys followed police directions to sutcliffe and got stuck in a blind alley in wearside

Just sayin.

damn

Still so.

unbelievably...

brian poole and tremeloes, the

I'm not sure if Dignified Don is, though...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xkpT1za0ZqI/SKFeuuy7yXI/AAAAAAAAAKg/zlltalzRV88/s320/jimmy-bench2.jpg

He was on the 1976 TOTP last week introducing Eddie and the Hot Rods, insisting that they should go to number one. Bless him, for once!

Is Jimmy Hill still alive?????

That's a chin scratcher.

When Saville does go I'm sure he'll be happy where he ends up. I've heard he loves the dead.

JH xD.

well.. supposedly not now.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sir-jimmy-savile-gave-schoolgirls-cash-for-sex-3244319.html

now then now then now then

woss goin on

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/01/jimmy-savile-bbc

seems the entertainment industry was the uk's catholic church

the law says you can't defend yourself when you're dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdKr1jlDzW4

"But Gary has not sold 'em, has not tried to sell 'em, not tried to show them in public or anything like that. It were for his own gratification. "Whether it was right or wrong is, of course, it's up to him as a person. But they didn't do anything wrong but they are then demonised."
"If you said to that copper, what's Gary Glitter done wrong? Well nothing really. He's just sat at home watching dodgy films."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9578230/Jimmy-Savile-claimed-paedophile-Gary-Glitter-did-nothing-wrong.html

blood on your hands Louis Theroux

I bet whoever bought his underpants at auction is feeling a bit sick.

Ewww

On the other hand, I don't think these allegations are much of a shock to anyone are they? I mean it *is* shocking that these things are said to have happened how and where they did, but all the same, I don't think anyone would underestimate the man's creepiness.

Good piece by Suzanne Moore on the whole mess surrounding Savile and seventies guys' idea of "fun": http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/liking-young-girls-not-preference-perversion

http://timesopinion.tumblr.com/post/32804536645/jimmy-saviles-affections-laid-bare-by-jimmy-savile

Jesus Christ. No longer sure if this guy was real or if David Peace made him up.

Sorry, that's crass.

Also funny, true

The whole of seventies Britain is now beginning to look like David Peace made it up!

Sorry, that's crass.

no, that's exactly what i've been thinking too.

^ display name is very distracting

Well my phrasing was clumsy at least - he was obviously a very real and dangerous guy.

Anyhow, some of the fallout:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4569604/sir-jimmy-savile-memorial-attacked.html

http://soundcloud.com/musiclibraryfinland/savilles-travels-get-off-my

I was a bit surprised at all this because I'd heard that necrophilia rumour for so long - a bit jarring to put him into a different (& more real, hurtful) category of foulness.

I mean, how long ago was that Irvine Welsh story? 1994? 1995?

1996, fwiw

More shocked now by the jewish query than the necrophiliac one.

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i329/yorkshiresky/wasjimmy.jpg

There's also this Have I Got News For You 'outtake', which I always assumed was fake:

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/rogerb/jokes/HIGNFY.txt

would be an excellent fake if so

Private Eye is going to have an absolute fucking field day with all this by the way.

That transcript is fucking great...shame that HIGNFY is a bit wank these days.

yeah I just remembered that HIGN thing, it's from like 2001 but iirc was pretty swiftly debunked at the time

yeah pretty sure that hignfy transcript is fake

easily.

is it pedantic to wish Sun readers knew the difference between paedophiles and ephebophiles?

By their own standards, the Sun was for many years the UK's biggest publisher of paedophile porn.

Not all that funny, but you do have to admire the speed people work at these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGuSqSSmyy0

xpost true tale..

back whenever, they did a page 3 series for girls *on* their 16th birthday.

Until someone pointed out that all of their models must have done their sessions before they were 'legal' then.

They shut the series immediately.

denials from freddie starr:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/05/freddie-starr-denies-girl

also, who is crepey groper of liz kershaw?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/06/dj-liz-kershaw-routinely-groped-bbc

Janet Street-Porter has said publicly that they all knew about it in 1987 when she started at the BBC but she was too junior to do anything about it.

Krishnan Guru-Murphy has just dropped her in it by pointing out she was commissioning editor for youth programming, so not exactly junior and in fact gave him his first job at the Beeb in 1987 hosting a teenage discussion panel. The guest? Jingle Jangle Jewellery Jim himself.

beast b c

x-post.

Curious to read paedophilia described as a "pet hate".

groper of Liz? the Ha!ry C0rnf14ke?

Sandi Toksvig says that apparently her groper is now dead. Don't know about Liz Kerahsw though, unlike her stalker brother.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19887019

A girl I used to go out with was a nurse at one of the hospitals Jimbo volunteered at, she said he was creepy creepy creepy, none of the nurses ever wanted to be left alone in the same room as him

― Tom D., Thursday, 14 February 2008 13:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes, I remembered this quote when relating it to my wife a couple days ago. Forgot who said it though.

Did anyone see the story that was in 'times 'weekend? The original story had people signified by initials: JS, G and F.

JS has now been identified as JimSav, G = Gltter, F has not been named for "legal reasons"

Could that only be because F is still alive? If not.. I think I have a good idea .. and that's all I'm saying I guess...

F is freddie starr, he tried to take out an injunction, it was overturned, he's been in meltdown denying it ever since.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214785/Freddie-Starr-forced-admit-mistaken-TV-footage-unearthed-1974.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Ah, that's OK then..

can't believe you could even picture Fanny Craddock doing that tbh

Real England

His gravestone (which they are now going to remove) is something else, check out the poem on the left hand side:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02364/s_2364168b.jpg

The Jim'll Fix It and Top Of The Pops presenter was buried in a gold coffin at a 45-degree angle at the cemetery, facing the sea, at his own request.

The coffin was later encased in concrete as a "security measure" amid speculation about its contents.

good luck seeing the sea through the concrete and the security cordon there jim

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01587/jimmy-saville4_1587589a.jpg

"And I ask that you remember me
And always - with a smile"

The coffin was later encased in concrete

Like radioactive waste? How long is the half-life of a pedo?

they spelled chieftain wrong, unless they meant he was "chief tan" due to his sunbed face. or it's some localised scots spelling.

paedophilia - "it was good while it lasted"

okay got a new dn

"It was good while it lasted. Then she reached puberty."

That second picture of the headstone looks like someone flasher-mac-ing the mourners.

"the first guy who presented back in 1964, the very first totp and went on to so much more."

doesn't really scan

<3 shit death poetry and that example is almost McGonagall-esque. kudos to the Savile family and/or estate

I'm sure that if people stare at it long enough, some kind of wordsearch style hidden message will appear, like

       H.E.
W.A.S
        A.
   P.E.D.O.

"little sisters of the poor"?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/08/article-2058879-0EB7214E00000578-164_634x432.jpg

Don't want to know what's going on out of frame in that picture.

he was an ephebophile, not a paedo, not that it matters much

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-19893373

"We've taken it back to our yard in Leeds. We'll grind the inscription off and we will dispose of the memorial. It'll be broken up and just go to landfill,"

that poem is jaw dropping, decades before any of this came out the idea of the miserable old sod being a 'friend to all' was laughable. he always came across as an icy passive aggresive nutbag.

looking forward to the exhumation of the body and his head being paraded on a stick at the front of a howling mob

before we offer up the mouldy corpse as a sacrifice to appease the god of Ver Kiddies

Jim Fixed It For Me... To Be Part Of A Howling Mob

xp Given the number of cigars Saville smoked, his corpse is more like to be kippered from the inside.

he always came across as an icy passive aggresive nutbag.

^ fixed

Wish they'd show that Louis Theroux docu. again, as some sort of, errrrrr, tribute

the full thing is on youtube

It's on t0rrents. Well worth hunting down, Savile really does come across as the strangest of men.

what speculation is there over the contents?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-15717221
"People may decide there is something of value but it was a steel-casket sprayed gold and I can confirm there was nothing of any value there. He was wearing his medal that he got from the marines, his cigars and his beret."

that and his demon soul

coffin made from pieces of the true cross.

Undertakers confirmed anyone opening the coffin would be incinerated by tongues of flaming leaping from Savile's heart, which was purchased by Tesco in 2003.

never knew that, interesting.

i heard his anguished spirit still roams the North Yorkshire Moors at night looking for naughty children to molest

HE MADE YOUNG DREAMS COME TRUE

Is it true he was buried at 45 degrees so he could look up the skirts of passing schoolgirls?

he brought joy and misery wherever he went, a complicated life, from hell/heaven he was sent, rapist and philanthropist, his name was jim, this simple rhyme is simpler than him

wonder if somebody cd do a cost/benefit analysis on how many fiddled kiddies equals a dialysis machine?

the great philosophical question, would you kill a man who abused children (when he was a child) if you knew he would also open some hospitals?

some of those kiddies might've gone on to run half-marathons for charity if they'd not been traumatised by the beast tho

we'll just never know. *gazes at the inscrutable grey sky*

Here he lies, six foot under
Oblivious in his paedobunker
A golden coffin for Jim'll Fix It
Encased in concrete so no-one nicks it

^superb.

yes

hate to nitpick but the scansion could do with some work, some of the lines have almost the same number of syllables

ha, noted!

ephebobunker not got the same ring

fuck's sake nick how'd you miss all the john terry threads?

There's one L in Savile, and two in hell. Feel free to use that one, tabloids.

I just have one question.

...the hair. What, how and why?

targaryen blood.

Some people have asked the same of you, Ned. (xp)

And rightly so. But you are authorized to have me committed if I ever go around with a fucking pageboy/bangs cut like that.

That would be quite a sight to behold

My theory is that he was showing off that he never went bald.

It's impossible to imagine the blasted psychological landscape of a man who'd choose that hair to demonstrate his victory over male pattern baldness.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/227456_4046754359871_1098554817_n.jpg

blimey!

Saville there with an expression on his face like a fat man at an all-you-can-eat buffet.

holy hell.

susan boyle and beetlejuice's lovechild to the left is even scarier.

at least 50% of kids in shot looking deeply traumatised.

a handbook for child molesters

almost copy/pasted "he was an ephebophile, not a paedo, not that it matters much" as my FB status update. That would've been a classic.

Is that where the band Other Ppls Children got their name from? I mean is that a real book!?!

It is, I vaguely remember it!

He's down with OPC

he seems to have a weird green shadow behind him complete with sinister shadow testicles

wtf @ this:

A former nurse at the Leeds hospital where Savile worked as a porter, said he molested a brain-damaged hospital patient. June Thornton was recovering from an operation at Leeds General Infirmary when she says she saw Savile abuse the young girl.

"She had brain damage, and Jimmy Savile came in and kissed her," she told Sky News.

"He started kissing her neck, running his hands up and down her arms, and then started to molest her. Because I was laid flat on my back, there was nothing I could do."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/11/jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-claims

^^ suspect this is the foundation of 'rumour' i heard when i lived in leeds

Girl (?) on the slide seems to know something's not cool.

Well, either a girl, or Little Lord Fauntleroy.

LLF (thinks) : "Blond(e) hair? Stupid fringe? When I grow up am I going to look like the creepy guy behind me?"

Safe to publish this now, ..

"Honestly, there's so much happening in the news it's very hard to keep track of things. Like, there's been serious allegations in the news of child abuse in Cleveland. Serious allegations of child abuse in Cleveland. And to my mind there's only one way of finding out whether it's true or not. And that is to call in Jimmy Savile. You can't afford to f*ck about, bring in an expert. Am I right? I mean, a friend of mine reckons Jimmy Savile is a paedophile. Rubbish. He's a child bender. That's why he does all the f*cking charity work, it's to gain public sympathy for when his case comes up. Aye, I've always known that. He might've fooled you, but not f*cking me I'll tell you that. He's not fooling this big-nosed Jewish b*stard, I'll tell you that. I've always thought that if you took the action of a w*nk and turned it into a voice you'd get Jimmy Savile wouldn't you. Now then, now then... lovely, lovely... oh, now then now then, oh, lovely... lovely... ooh..."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bdr9fOVBKfQ/UGx2mlgS-pI/AAAAAAAANLQ/QHU55NaAKkU/s1600/jimmy+sadowitz.jpg

LOL Jerry OTM

The folly of these bids for his old possessions:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180953/Jimmy-Savile-Auction-One-time-Jim-fixes-charity-Saviles-personal-treasures-fetch-small-fortune.html

Silver Corniche Rolls-Royce nicknamed 'The Beast'

...

fetched more than twice its estimated value.

so an extra £70k over the odds for what amounts to a luxury crime scene

A truly unselfish individual who did such a lot during his lifetime, and now this after he has gone. He truly was an inspirational man a true legend. RIP Jimmy Saville xxxx

- Jenny McCabe , Newport,Shrops, 31/7/2012 12:46
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Oh Jenny, he certainly did a lot in his lifetime.

Who on earth is going to buy this tat?

- Excuses, excuses, 30/7/2012 13:12
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A truly unselfish individual who did so many...

a few months ago - about a week before that Mail article I think - I went to a wedding in Cornwall w/ my family and afterwards stopped off at a family friend's house who I'd not seen for probably over ten years. while we were chatting this younger crusty looking acquaintance of hers comes in and tells us about how he'd just won this bus on eBay for something like £7,000, which turned out to have previously been a mobile hospital which was part of some sort of Jimmy Savile charitable scheme. the bus had some winsome punny name which I would have noted on my phone except it had conked out looking for a signal because Cornwall abhors communication, and now I'm kicking myself bcs I can't find shit about this on google. anyway whatever happened on that bus in the past it is probably currently sitting in a back yard somewhere and smelling of weed.

something very swords-into-ploughshares about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_dZqXB-jY

the scale of complicity around this is quite staggering.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/3608684/data/jimmy-savile-data.jpg

Dear Jan Moir, have you not fucked off yet, you snivelling excuse for a human being?

P.S. it is easy to understand why those who
were molested by Savile are now coming
forward to speak out. One understands how
the domino effect of others gives courage,
how there is comfort in a crowd.
I have less sympathy with celebrities such as
Sandi Toksvig and Liz Kershaw, now loudly
claiming long-ago molestations and abuse at
the BBC. Hardly shrinking violets, they did
nothing about it at the time and still do not
name their tormentors. What’s the point?

I thought they *did* do something at the time...

It's Jan Moir - she'll have no truck with your 'facts' and 'reading comprehension' and such.

did a few stories on this and my boss had a word after one and joked about me picking the pic that made him look most like a stereotypical paedo. had to explain that every single pic of him looks like this.

Yeah when I clicked on this thread I assumed it was a comedian dressed as some sort of bizarre character but then I realized that was just the way he really looked.

who is the 4th tv star?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/276633/NEW-SAVILE-SEX-RING-STAR/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9603136/High-profile-soap-star-linked-to-sex-abuse-claims-at-BBC-as-scandal-over-Jimmy-Savile-grows.html

i wonder if it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Adamson who played Len Fairclough on coronation street? It's the right era and I don't know if there were any other UK soaps at that time.

awww i thought we had a nice bit of libel there but it turns out the cunt has carked it

do we a have a 'libel the dead' thread

i remember that court case with peter adamson.

and so do i.

I got the impression from that article it wasn't an established soap star but a tv star who appeared in one. Suggesting a short stint or perhaps even a cameo.

i can think of one huge star from the mid 70s saville/glitter who went on to appear in eastenders

singer he was

mid 70s saville/glitter *era*

we talking green cross code here?

marc bolan it is

if this spreads from the BBC to pop/rock stars of the 70s for underage sex there's gonna be noone left with a reputation.

All the soaps have had famous 70s tv stars or pop stars in them. Almost all of them will be libelled until the truth comes out.

http://www.80stees.com/images/products/X-Files_Truth_Is_Out_There_Black_T-link.jpg

we talking green cross code here?

i can't figure this one out, are you talking about the darth vader guy?

cos i must have missed his big hits in the 70s

I would say he's talking about The Man With The Glove.

and wig and a tv star wife

and not darth vader

All the soaps have had famous 70s tv stars or pop stars in them

Read that as 'soap stars have had' and was all, "Well, yes."

I would say he's talking about The Man With The Glove.

oh right! was thinking of someone else, didn't know that glove guy had been in soaps until now, eeek

I actually used to live 5 doors along in the same street as Mr Glove and his Glamorous Soap Star Wife, and I never saw any noncing going on. I did see some pretty shocking syrup action going on, mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMYK9hqG9jo

it's not Dav1d £ssEx ffs. they would not describe him as a soap star. plus it would really taint my regular listenings to "rock on", so, NO.

actually they don't describe him as a soap star so it's possible. but i hope it's not him.

you should try listening to "i'm the leader of the gang (i am)"

There's another glove, and twitter searches are a bit creepy:

***** ******** came to my kids school for the gold awards, disappointed he wasn't wearing his leather glove!

Now they're saying Jeremy Beadle may have had a small hand in it.

xp Ha! That's the glove i assumed people were talking about. Not that there have ever been rumours about him, iirc.

Mike Reid's dead, right? We can libel him if we want.

Have I Got News For You; very interesting tonight.

come on, timmy mallet, no trial needed, if savile is the entertainment paed jesus then mallet is saint peter.

was praying the other night that Noel Edmonds gets outed

Dear Jesus,

Please please please please fix it for me for Noel Edmonds to be outed as a nonce.

(ftr I think it's incredibly unlikely - out of all the DJs on that 1977 Radio Times cover, Edmonds is the least nonce-like. A huge womanising creep, yes, but not a pedo.)

i wonder if it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Adamson who played Len Fairclough on coronation street? It's the right era and I don't know if there were any other UK soaps at that time.

― jed_, Friday, October 12, 2012 9:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"LEN STOLE MY SUNSHINE" = a headline that can be used if this story gets another airing

back then there was Crossroads and Emmerdale Farm

If it was Peter Adamson they would just publish his name since he was dead

They might want more than one source for the stories, though, even with a dead star like Adamson or TV-comedian-turned-soap-actor-and-close-friend-of-Freddie-Starr Mike Read.

Reid. Not Mike Read, obviously.

More Sadowitz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ktIcElNDtM&feature=watch_response

And HIGNFY, back on form I thought last night. Needs to be like that more often.

back then there was Crossroads and
Emmerdale Farm

Doesn't need to be back anywhere, this new story isn't about Savile back then, it's about the BBC covering up for one of their stars, so unlikely to be anyone from an itv soap.

I find this guess-who's-a-nonce game a bit distasteful though.

Agreed.

Peter "Is it true if you take your finger out I'll sink" Adamson was a convicted nonce tbf

also it's fair game speculating about people as long as they're cunts anyway

He won his court case did he not?

Good friend of mine, in 2003, wrote a 4 page cartoon story for UNICEF on child abuse, for use in schools.

Guess what he called it.

ooh, never went to court apparently. forgot. didn't work much after that tbf.

The four page comic story, illustrated by John McCrea, is about sexual abuse within the family, which is still where abuse is most prevalent.

this can't be stressed enough tbh while we're all having a laugh and the press are playing "boo the pantomime villains" as per

Watched that ITV doc last night. There's a section where a local newspaper journalist goes to interview him at his home. A young girl arrives, Savile takes her into the bedroom for 10m, comes out, has a wash.

The hack says: "I left then, even though I hadn't even got a story."

Uh, I can sense the inkling of a story there, mate.

over 75,000 people have now come forward? incredible.

Savile gets the defender he deserves:
http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/12973/

I like how Spiked's layout makes it look like BO'N has changed his byline photo to one of Savile, like a forum avatar. unless that is what he's done?

we are all Jimmy Savile to an extent

my extent stops short of fondling comatose children tbf but the point stands

the guess-a-nonce thing particularly shit when it turns into the smirk-at-famous-gay-people game

yeah there's a tiny leap in a lot of wankers' brains between homo and nonce

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292862_10152100086961686_766376163_n.jpg

"fuck the Criminal Justice Act"

disgusting beast finally discredited in the eyes of a formerly adoring public and rightly taken to task for his crimes standing next to Jimmy Savile etc

DLT, to nobody's surprise:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9608676/Dave-Lee-Travis-allegedly-groped-women-in-his-BBC-studio.html

surely not the hairy cuntflake

Telegraph seems to be doing a lot of the running with these stories, they are like pigs in shit with this stuff

pace HIGNFY, reeeeeeally uncomfortable w/how this story is being used as stick with which to beat the BBC

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/19/jimmy-savile-met-criminal-investigation

Up to 200 victims, unprecedented scale, says Scotland Yard.

WHY ARE WE ONLY DOING THIS NOW HE'S DEAD?!

He got away with it his whole life.

To clarify, I'm not aainst theis investigation in any way, the victims deserve and need acknowledgement and closure and help if they want it, I just find it frustrating that he wont get punished, and seemed to live his dirty, nasty, exploitative life safe in the knowledge that he never, ever would. How did this happen?

pace HIGNFY, reeeeeeally uncomfortable w/how this story is being used as stick with which to beat the BBC

Suppose it depends on how much anyone at the BBC knew about it at the time. The Newsnight thing doesn't feel like a particularly big issue in itself. There's a lot of hearsay going around at the moment.

haven't really heard anybody blaming the BBC either other than the usual suspects

Anyone who grew up watching Benny Hill or On The Buses must be totally shocked that there was a culture of leery sexpests at the heart of entertainment industry

Does anyone know who John Simpson was referring to when stories about "Uncle Dick" were reported the other day?

The row over Jimmy Savile's four-decade career at the BBC has intensified after it emerged that the veteran journalist John Simpson claimed that top executives knew of sexual abuse by another star presenter in the 1950s and 60s.

Simpson referred to the star in his 1999 autobiography as "Uncle Dick" and said he had been a household name from the 1920s until his death in 1967. He claimed that BBC bosses up to the level of director general were aware of the allegations.

The former BBC News world affairs editor said he was told about sexual abuse by the star when he died and was asked to write an obituary.

"Week after week, children from all over the country could win competitions to visit the BBC and meet Uncle Dick," Simpson wrote in Strange Places, Questionable People.

"He would welcome them, show them around, give them lunch, then take them to the gents and interfere with them. If parents complained, the director general's office would write saying the nation wouldn't understand such an accusation against a much-loved figure."

The BBC refused to comment on the identity of the presenter.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/17/jimmy-savile-abuse-bbc?INTCMP=SRCH

Uncle Dick likely = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_McCulloch

Ah okay!

In 1939 the audience for Children's Hour reached 4 million. His sign-off line "Goodnight children, everywhere", became more poignant after the evacuation of many children from their homes at the start of the Second World War.

^ not sinister at all, in retrospect

Yeah, that was my guess too, Nick(S)

There's an interesting variant in one of his 'signoff' pieces on Jowe Head's album "Pincer Movement"

Something like "these are english songs and no-one can take them away from us" or something like it..

Where I grew up, there was a [prominent member of local community] well-known for putting moves on teenaged boys in his employ from the '60s onward. Boys who told their parents were believed, but there were no consequences for the abuser other than a few punches from dads, gossip or people using a competitor's service instead. People apparently didn't want to rip the man's wife's life apart by informing her about her husband's abuses, but she *had* to know. The neighbourhood omerta on the subject was not unusual for the Midwest in the '70s.

I can't imagine the offices of Associated Newspapers or any workplace associated with Rupert Murdoch being any better/worse an atmosphere than the BBC in the '60s/'70s - this is about a melding of extreme male privilege to a culture in thrall to celebrity. Benny Hill, indeed. The framework has only changed a little in TV Land. Law enforcement and politics are also areas historically full of 'unreconstructed' men so if you're female/feminist, you might be tempted to see all these guys yelling 'there! Look over THERE, not HERE!' about the conduct of contemporaries as some kind of distraction.

I too await the inevitable David Peace trilogy.

DLT, to nobody's surprise

.. especially if you've seen any of his appearances on TOTPs from '76 and '77, currently being rerun (now minus the Savilemonster) on BBC4

Last night's DLT was especially crepe.

Pretty much all of those DJs come across creepy these days - except for Kid Jensen

last night's totp was an argument for bbc4 cancelling the entire run.

agree with tom d, kid is the only one you can trust out of that lot.

nothing much being said abt peel at the moment which is probably just as well; after all, if he gets posthumously "exposed" that's 6Music basically finished innit?

They're not replaying Peel's links are they? 'Just' the music..

Kid was in the unique position, for a 70s BBC DJ, of only being 10 years older than his potential victims as opposed to 20 or 30.

thing about 6music is that peel is their sort of mascot; every five minutes it's peel this, peel that (plus his son is on the station) and iirc the station was created to reflect his musical ethic. take that away and i'm not sure you'd have much left there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xL0RCAFo1jQ/ReQZpEATKgI/AAAAAAAAAsU/FnEl47625es/s400/totp_25_lg.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xL0RCAFo1jQ/Rd-YCUATJHI/AAAAAAAAAbw/SG1hulo6l6w/s1600/totp_21.jpg

etc

Two of those went to number one, but not those two.

I expect the revelations will start spreading to pop stars fairly shortly, although its difficult to imagine anyone doing anything as uniquely horrible on such a massive scale as Savile.

and iirc the station was created to reflect his musical ethic

this isn't actually true, not least as the station was 'born' a few years before Peel died, when the Beeb was not so much venerating John as trying to hide him in the schedules somewhere.

Law enforcement and politics are also areas historically full of 'unreconstructed' men so if you're female/feminist, you might be tempted to see all these guys yelling 'there! Look over THERE, not HERE!' about the conduct of contemporaries as some kind of distraction.

don't you mean if you're a victim of abuse?

In the event that Peel was outed as some kind of serial nonce, 6 Music would shuffle around nervously for a bit, quietly drop any mention of him and carry on. I can't see a station falling on the sword for someone who didn't even work there.

Plus, Saville didn't have any kind of musical "ethic"

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/87004/jimmy-savile-admitted-he-was-crooked-interview-his-death

ha, crooked doesn't even begin to cover it

maybe he was just talking about a couple of bank jobs he did in the 80s though

b isn't anywhere near w on the keyboard.

hahaha!

"when I'm gone they'll say, I always thought he was a great guy, but it turned out he brutally molested hundreds of people, literally HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF KIDS." Savile said, cryptically.

It is really seeming now that there's just reams and reams of quotes from him, across years and years, where he basically says "I've managed to do absolutely anything I wanted in my life, really, absolutely anything even fucking nasty dark evil motherfucking shit and it's been brilliant and no one stopped me."

"I dare you to ask me what I did, journalist. I dare you." And no one asked.

The music industry has always been rife with the 15-year-old girlfriends and boyfriends of the Peter Pans within it. The fanzine girl dating the press officer; the GCSE students with a band, shagging older guys in bands/writers/PRs; age differences of between 10 and 15 years - I'm sure it's still going on w/just a change in players. A great many of the young women involved with older guys were really smart and precocious about their careers, but eager to swap school discos for the Heavenly Sunday Social.

Creepy all-powerful types who serve up groping and use intimidation and a place in the boys' club to make sure they never have to own up to their actions are a different order altogether - they're evil and should be held to account - but the consensual scenario above is definitely part of a sliding scale of male entitlement/females having to 'go along to get along', even if most of the young women genuinely want to be involved.

Yeah I mean as far as Peel himself goes he's in the former camp but I've not seen any suggestion he's in the latter?

I can only think that Savile in person must have been genuinely threatening in a terrifying way to have managed to keep so many victims silent on such a massive scale, even taking the "no one will believe you" stuff into account.

My impression is that Peel became happily-married family mann in a garage full of records, well away from being all-powerful.

Think it? I believe it!

There was some 'expose' in a Sunday paper decades ago, SMirror, I think. It was all about his 'gangster' days and his "I shag loads" went alongside his "I sorted out things, right?"

Basically, when he started on TOTP and Radio 1, he was already used to using 'muscle'..

There was some minor outcry at the time, but every business was "we have no plans to drop Mr Savile". and so it continued.

i don't think popular ilx meme "sense of entitlement" quite stands up to being a reason for raping people.

It's in the mix of reasons rape happens, although you're entitled to your opinion, R.

MDC: Nor have I. Would be very surprised to discover any untowardness post-1974. xp

I think what we're dealing with in Savile is a full-blown psychopath / sociopath. He's through sense of entitlement and out the other side. he doens't think he's entitled, he thinks he's immune, invulnerable, completely unbeholden to any morality.

Thought. Past tense.

the only thing that stops me asking how nobody came out about these allegations before, is that this seems to be how institutional paedophilia has played out generally. i suppose before any allegation sticks, everyone is just a disparate victim, on their own, but now that they've all emerged a large picture of a man's extensive campaign of rape and abuse emerges very clearly.

Claims in the Mail yesterday about Wilfrid Brambell:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219401/Steptoe-Sons-Wilfrid-Brambell-latest-BBC-star-accused-child-sex-abuse.html

I can only think that Savile in person must have been genuinely threatening in a terrifying way to have managed to keep so many victims silent on such a massive scale, even taking the "no one will believe you" stuff into account.

see i dunno about this, there are loads of serial paedophiles who never got caught. isn't it just as likely that it will emerge that victims did tell people and nothing was done?

I thought Brambell was common-knowledge?

maybe it is? news to me though

Brambell was arrested for cottaging but I don't think I've ever heard kids before.

People did tell contemporaneously, but nothing was done. When parents or an adult in charge learn about an incident, sometimes there's a straight, sharp denial, but in cases where the adult believes the child, the adult often doesn't wind up taking it further. Most of the time it's because the adult believes the authorities won't do anything or the abuser will dissemble or emotionally blackmail if challenged. You'd need a lot of guts to take on someone like JS, especially if he had form as a thug.

xps I hope people are decent enough to respect the feelings of his grandson Titus

And knew the prime minister, etc etc etc.

xpost

One of the lines that Savile was reported to have used on people he molested was 'I know where you live' which would absolutely terrify a child

wasn't there a ref to Saville's close relationship with Thatch on HIGNFY the other weekend?

Yeah, pretty sure there was.

He's probably sad he never got to fuck her corpse.

at least not while she was dead anyway

Yeah, Savile was a physically powerful and intimidating guy, former professional wrestler, also spoke darkly in the past about gangster-like activities in his early days of running clubs, people ending up with broken limbs etc

By the ttime they next do one of those I Love The 1970s programmes, there's going to be no fucker with any sort of reputation left intact enough to go on it. It'll just be Mike Yarwood and a packet of spicy Kung Fu snacks and even those are probably both borderline racist.

I really hope this doesn't end in a spate of those crappy BBC4 biopics of public figures from the past that no one gives a shit about except commissioning editors.

Looking for completely unrelated stuff, I came upon this page... maybe they ought to get her to change an answer here?
http://www.channel4.com/t4/georgie-okell

Channel 4 are axing T4 anyway, so it'll be down son enough.

s/son/soon/

It'll be down, son. Enough.

Did T4 get sonned by wite TV chiefs over a Hollyoaks Omnibus beef?

Gropey sexpest Adam Hart-Davis is Cameron's second cousin? How did I not know this?

Feeling bad that this fact is doing more to make me dislike him than any actual horrible* behaviour

(* alleged I s'pose - not that I can't believe it)

Fucking epic seppuku by the BBC here.

Gambuccini just used the word necrophiliac on BBC FiveLive breakfast.

In explicit reference to Savile.

You could almost literally hear Nicky Campbell shake with a mixture of excitement and panic.

I live in another country on the other side of the world, and I heard the necrophiliac rumours long ago enough that I was surprised to go "oh, as well?!" when live young girls got added to my rumour awareness looong before he died

The necrophiliac rumours predate the jailbait rumours

which speaks amazingly well to the complicit cultural suppression of the latter

mostly they were about his mum though, right?

Well, yes, but his fondness for working as a hospital porter was usually factored in

i remember hearing these rumours in the 90s when my then-gf was a med student in leeds.

The rumours have been around for ages - Irvine Welsh wrote a story about a corpse-fucking DJ and TV star called Freddy Royle in the mid-90s - but as far as I know they've never been mentioned in the media properly until now (very minor reports at end of last week, but nothign like Gamba on national radio at half past 8 in the morning).

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jimmy-savile-was-a-necrophiliac-8222948.html

"The expression I came to associate with Savile's sexual partners was either one used by production assistants or one I made up to summarise their reports ... 'under-age subnormals'.

"He targeted the institutionalised, the hospitalised - and this was known. Why did Jimmy go to hospitals? That's where the patients were."

But he said these things were taking place at a time when staff failed to get to grips with the concept of paedophilia.

"It was considered so far beyond the pale that people didn't believe it happened," he said during the 5 Live Breakfast Show.

And he said the problems with failing to call Savile to account went well beyond the BBC.

He questioned why newspapers had not acted when he said a tabloid reporter had boasted that his colleagues were aware of a story linking Savile to "necrophilia".

Campbell pointed out: "That particularly lurid accusation that you have just brought to people's attention is one that has not been in the public domain."

Gambaccini agreed and asked "why not?". And he asked: "Who vetted the knighthood? Coco the clown?"

He said the entire society was taken in by Savile - "including the Prime Minister who invited him to Chequers; including the royal family, photographed with him, he got a knighthood in this country, he got a papal knighthood.

"This is not just the BBC this is history, this is a man who conned an entire society," Gambaccini added.

... 'under-age subnormals'.

This is not necessarily true, underage yes, subnormal.. well!

Also, I get the impression PGambo overheard some reporter discussing some 'unreliable' scoop, those guys love a bit of chinese whispers pass it on, etc.

There's nothing anyone can say about Jimmy Savile that will be considered out-of-hand. As before, the only people that know the truth are his victime, and anyone in the room with 'them'...

In the age of prolific zombie entertainment, this thread title is becoming more and more sinister by the day. Has any zombie-text ever broached zombie-fucking?

one will have imagined so

"Deadgirl" did. It's really good! Savile would probably have loved it, though, which somewhat diminishes my admiration :(

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/23/199730/default/v1/daily-star-1-778x437.jpg

JK Rowling's really gone in a new direction.

love the way this has been rumoured about for years (i personally heard this back in late 80s when hanging out with student nurses in leeds), and yet, one mention on one radio show and suddenly its frontpage news.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/23/199730/default/v1/daily-star-1-778x437.jpg

Band name

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/10/23/199730/default/v1/daily-star-1-329x437.jpg

Anglo-centric fuckers.

"Over 200 corpses have come forward - via medium, spirituals and ouija boards - to claim that Savile had carnal relations with them without their consent."

has this been posted yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJJf-eEZnjM

Hello what's this all about then?

oh, it's on now.

David Icke has been calling Ted Heath a Satanist and a paedophile for years. Also claims he is a lizard, of course, so may want to take with pinch of salt.

there is a story i dimly remember from Private Eyeinvolving senior Labour ministers being found on the membership roster of specialist interest websites that were busted in the US, and this info being used to persuade the then Prime Minister that vigorous support for the second Gulf War wd be in his best interests

surely it's obvious who is meant here? or is it just me that's thinking that? i know you know who i'm thinking of.

wow, awes conspiracy theory anyway

Saville story worse than most because literally every photo of him could be captioned "Hahahaha I got away with this shit for 60 years hahahaha" - also the vague feeling that everyone who saw him on TV and didn't immediately call the police is now vaguely complicit.

the story on a blog that was going round yesterday about A Famous Old Tory has been taken down/removed.

Peter Morrison, pps to Thatcher, seems to be the name coming up a lot.

(re this Tom Watson thing)

knew it. to the lynching wagon!

Oh I was thinking of, uh, somebody else... who has a similar reputation

Labour

Finally a link between Thatcher and celebrity necropest Jimmy Savile

tell you what this guy's been pretty quiet the last 2 weeks
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/sir-jimmy-saviles-nephew-disgusted-at-allegations-that-hisuncle-sexually-abused-school-girls-8191183.html

celebrity necropest

in real office lol

necrononce

necrononcer

Good work, lads

these derogatory names should have been thought of years ago, it makes me sick.

lol

hard to believe but i still have't seen

SAVILE ROW

on any papers yet

Wiki disambiguation is on it

This article is about the street in London. For the row concerning Jimmy Savile, see Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savile_Row

lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Savile_Row&oldid=517736533

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This article is about the street in London. For the brouhaha concerning Jimmy Savile, see Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal.

Excellent use of 'brouhaha', there.

that was my doing... surprised it's even lasted 10 minutes

the Savile paedo imbroglio

considered farago and debacle

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Favonian making a valiant effort to battle the tide. But alas! It is futile.

How long would 'clusterfuck' last?

wikipedia... wikiPEDia.

just saying. maybe they should get their own house in order before censoring others.

encyclopaeds silence anti-savile edits

Dare you to go in there and use the word foofaraw.

why are there so many circus-themed words for "clusterfuck"?

Well, you know what they say about CIRCUS PEOPLE.

Watson wasn't talking about Peter Morrison...

On Sunday former Conservative minister Edwina Currie claimed that a leading Tory MP during Margaret Thatcher’s era had sex with underage boys.

She claimed in the Sunday Times that she had heard Sir Peter Morrison, Thatcher’s parliamentary private secretary and deputy chairman of the party, had sex with 16-year-old boys when the age of consent was 21.

Sir Peter died aged 51 in 1995.

Mr Watson later wrote on his blog: 'I am not naming the person for obvious reasons but for clarity it is not former MP, Peter Morrison.

'This afternoon my office has been bombarded with calls regarding Morrison, I think because he was named by Edwina Currie at the weekend as having inappropriate sexual relations with teenage boys.

'I’ll say more when I can but this may not be for some time.'

hope he's insured against accidents

I've worked out who the rumour concerns (not Ted Heath).

is it an mp/former mp?

That's what I'm seeing alluded to on [insert name of social network here].

daily mail cracking out the rape jokes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222228/Mac--The-victims-Jimmy-Savile-filing-compensation-claims-worth-millions.html

Classic example of wrong usage of there/their on one, but mostly taking to task style coments..

did barry manilow write a song about this former mp or is he in a different political party?

He's in the party of inviting Savile to Chequers.

...and I must stress that I've only seen the name come up, not the exact nature of the offence.

did it happen on boats?

a while back, my wife mentioned watching a documentary on tv that implicated British nobility in child sexual abuse cover-ups. At the time I sort of laughed her off because she has a track record with believing things from late night cable tv that I have to later debunk and we'll get in fights or whatever.

So does anyone know what this documentary or show might have been? Or have any further background on the matter? Because now that this Jimmy Saville thing's getting international press, she's been periodically glancing up at me from her tablet to say "I fucking told you."

David Icke's World of Birds

did it happen on boats?

did it happen on a boat?
did it happen with a goat?

did it happen in a tree?
did it happen, bbc?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I'll note that a shufty around D. Aaronovitch's Twitter feed/conversations today will give the curious A NAME.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20061001

Fleet Street routinely nurtures a crop of untold stories about powerful abusers who have evaded justice. One such is Peter Morrison, formerly the MP for Chester and the deputy chairman of the Conservative Party. Ten years ago, Chris House, the veteran crime reporter for the Sunday Mirror, twice received tip-offs from police officers who said that Morrison had been caught cottaging in public toilets with underaged boys and had been released with a caution. A less powerful man, the officers complained, would have been charged with gross indecency or an offence against children.

At the time, Chris House confronted Morrison, who used libel laws to block publication of the story. Now, Morrison is dead and cannot sue. Police last week confirmed that he had been picked up twice and never brought to trial. They added that there appeared to be no trace of either incident in any of the official records.

http://www.nickdavies.net/1998/04/01/the-sheer-scale-of-child-sexual-abuse-in-britain/

Accused is also a teenager, I think. One of the reasons they are not being named.xp

I know it's 15 years old but my God that Nick Davies piece is relentless.

From the Savile nephew piece:

"I just think it's very, very sad you can say these things after someone's died and the law says you can't defend yourself when you're dead."

Damn the law for forcing this silence on otherwise chatty corpses.

Accused is also a teenager, I think. One of the reasons they are not being named.xp

Name being bandied about on twitter last night, not repeating here because I'm not keen on finding out the intricacies of libel law the hard way.

He was named at the time of the original arrest in May (which is why people know the name to spread around, and why I know who it is) but most references to this have been redacted and is now deliberately NOT being named. He's 17 now, I think was 16 at the time of the alleged offences.

also it's a completely separate and unrelated case

Agreed. It wasn't me that brought it in, but I can see how with no other details someone could make a connection to 'BBC actor in sexual assault'. The politician referred to by Tom Watson (if I'm making the right connection) is also a completely separate and unrelated case.

Or rather, there has been an unrelated accusation against a senior Tory politician. Tom Watson obviously is a fan of David Icke, as he has long held this chap was at the heart of a secret Tory paedo cabal, but I'm unaware of any other rumours or suspicions.

Watson's contribution was really unhelpful. The accusations against Morrison appear to be unrelated, possibly not even criminal now, and clarifying it was someone else he was talking about just gives license for speculation. The names being linked have either been the target of completely outlandish conspiracy theories or simple homophobia for years .

Yeah, that BBC article doesn't actually mention that it's a BBC actor, so not sure why it was brought in here, but since AG seems keen on identifying people I thought I'd give him a hint. Now you mention it, I think I remember the actor in question being named about something earlier in the year.

ShariVari otm - the Morrison thing seems to be stuff that wouldn't be criminal now; alternatives offer free rein for homophobes/conspiracists to make suggestions about any ranking Tory they've thought might be gay.

Why is it that other sectional groups are always communities, but paedophiles are always "rings"? They need better PRs.

Still a page on Daily Mail website with news story about teen actor's arrest back in May.

is it the chubby one from harry potter? he always seems to be getting in trouble with you lot.

did a daily mail search re: sick's post...if it's that guy then jheeeeeze

Communities have 'leaders' and PR spokespeople.

"Rings" have no one person having a greater 'status' than any other member.

rings have leaders. ringleaders, you could call 'em

stet: worryingly au fait with paedoring hierarchies imo

does anyone ever use "ring" for anything except paedophiles?

it's like a murder of crows.

might place an ad somewhere suggesting starting a "book-reading ring"

jazzercise ring

Satanists maybe?

art thieves also prone to meeting in circles iirc

liberals

Organised crime ring, anyone?

http://www.reocities.com/cryssi18/webring3.jpg
http://www.webring.org.uk/cropcircle/title.gif

spy ring

Yeah, was gonna say "Webrings" back in the day...

ppl called 'rosie'

Organised crime ring, anyone?

nope, never heard this used. carry on, everyone.

Corpse-bothering philanthropist and Radio 1 coffin-jockey Jimmy Savile was well-known for his rings iirc

terror, car-theft, heroin, heterocyclic.

heterocyclic.

can't believe lance armstrong was a paedo.

and he murdered crows

disgusting

Lord of the Rings: the Savile Story

Coffin Rogerer: the Savile Story

ghost rider

Some people are talking about his necrophilia as being like a last nail in the coffin, and to be fair, he apparently had a few of those before he died.

xp Except that Ghost Rider doesn't hurt the innocent.

When the headstone and flowers were removed from his grave, all that was left was a hole and no bush. It's what he would have wanted.

thread delivers

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2223192/Who-gave-Jimmy-Savile-key-care-homes-hospitals.html

littlejohn... otm? shudder.

enjoyed this too:

The most chilling photo produced so far was Savile posing for pictures inside Broadmoor with the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe.
Say cheese, Jim. Big grin, Pete. Thumbs up, three sombreros.

thumbs up, three sombreros?

Of course the other guy in that famous picture is big Frank. Wonder what he makes of it all?

Not trying to suggest that he was some sort of hearse-chasing carcass-fondler btw.

L-R: Bruno, Sutcliffe, Savile:

http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/REV-3-amigos.jpg

Steve Martin is about as funny as Peter Sutcliffe these days tbh

xp hope they don't do the Three Amigos salute

too late...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq9grzSMc71r13amoo1_250.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6PYL1dCYAAQdq8.jpg:large

thank fuck the Morning Star is on the case

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-witch-hunt-is-getting-silly-1403545

“Who’s next to be the victim of a media feeding frenzy? I have the answer to that. But, like Jimmy Savile, it’s only rumours. But when these ­rumours come out... WOW!”

hmm..

Gary Glitter arrested (again)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

well that's his career over then

not sure his reputation can survive being linked to this savile guy

http://www.lrb.co.uk/2012/10/27/andrew-ohagan/light-entertainment

^^^^Everybody read this; it's amazing.

Weirdly, yesterday an older acquaintance of mine (ex-AP on Ready Steady Go) was fairly adamant that GG was to be arrested. Seems he was the programme's audience wrangler and used to hive girls off to a room...

Seems like the kind of the thing you shouldn't want to admit, that

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223965/Caught-camera-Jimmy-Savile-gropes-terrified-teenage-girl-presents-Top-Of-The-Pops.html?ICO=most_read_module

as ever, thank you daily mail for hawking prurience under the pretence of disapproval

sidebar headline: "Aren't you a bit young to wear that? Amelia Lily dons racy pair of suspender tights as she performs at festival".

Classic Mail Online behaviour - wagging the finger of righteousness with one hand and wanking over teenagers with the other.

http://panicdots.com/2012/10/bbc-radio-ulster-read-out-jimmy-savile-joke-live-on-air-by-mistake/

Except that of course Amanda Lily is 18 and legal, there is a difference.

xp

Radio Ulster you are a traet

New series of Changing Rooms gets off to a bad start.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20116281

Except that of course Amanda Lily is 18 and legal, there is a difference.

Well there's always "I wanna be just like Mommy! Cindy Crawford's model daughter Kaia copies her dressed down style in matching shorts. Who wouldn't?"

holy shit @ radio ulster!

Weirdly, yesterday an older acquaintance of mine (ex-AP on Ready Steady Go) was fairly adamant that GG was to be arrested. Seems he was the programme's audience wrangler and used to hive girls off to a room...

― (suzy), Sunday, 28 October 2012 15:06 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sounds like information the police might find useful. Don't worry - I'll take care of it.

I am pretty sure they already know.

no harm in making sure though.

Radio Ulster is my new fave radio station.

CG&T - you need to dial it down a bit, lest passers-by mistake you for a common troll.

Radio Ulster is my new fave radio station.

I wonder if they take requests? Mine would be "think about WTF you're saying when you're on live radio".

no harm in making sure though.

― Campari G&T, Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:54 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

CG&T - you need to dial it down a bit, lest passers-by mistake you for a common troll.

― suzy), Sunday, 28 October 2012 22:07 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, after the shrieking hysterical post I made above perhaps I really ought to dial things down a little. That must be it - can't think of any other reason you would call me a troll.

Suzy: Metropolitan Police have been notified of your claim, and provided with contact details, as even if not complicit himself, he seems to have potentially important light to shed on BBC culture of the time. Well done.

Isn't there a fine for wasting police time without something more reliable than "someone on a message board says..."?

no potential evidence is considered a waste of time in child protection cases

They will be calling Jerry Sadowitz in to find out just what he knew (and how)..

Isn't there a fine for wasting police time without something more reliable than "someone on a message board says..."?

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:37 (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are you implying that Suzy's name-droppings are just the whims of 'someone on a message board' who's merely pretended for the past decade to be at the centre of the pop world, but who in fact has never come into contact with key players in the industry and therefore all her pronouncements should be taken with a huge pinch of salt?

I don't exactly keep tabs on the guy but I was pretty surprised that Gary Glitter wasn't still in jail.

I am pretty sure what I heard about impending arrest 24 hours before it happened was as a result of the individual already making a contribution of information - otherwise why say anything to a mere acquaintance? - so the persistence of personal attacks on me by this suddenly interested poster for saying so is just a tad crepey. CG&T, your insults are unacceptable and I've already objected to the way you're tailgating me on this thread, so take this opportunity to pick on someone your own size.

*waggles pinky*

a) I don't believe a single word of your last post, but b) I'm happy to just let things take their natural course, and won't post any more on this thread.

Has this been mentioned yet?

http://islingtonnow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jimmysmurf1.jpg

stay classy