DAVID SEDARIS = genius

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I mean, I've just re-read all of his books, and I don't see how anyone can not like him. I'm interested in hearing from folks who know his work yet don't enjoy it / him. Are there any?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

oh, there are. plenty. me, I like him fine, but there's something so intrinsically mild about him it makes me more suspicious than maybe I should be.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

My favorite was when he did the Paris thing on This American Life.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

I remember reading "Me Talk Pretty One Day" between planes in an airport once, and practically weeping I was laughing so hard. Granted, i was exhausted, but still. He bumped Mark Leyner out from my list of favorite humorous writers (though Leyner's stuff is still damn funny, if a bit more surreal).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:55 (twenty years ago) link

he's pretty funny, but I found reading "me talk pretty" all the way through was a mistake. it got kind of numbing by the end, though I guess this is a problem with most humour books. don't read 'em through in one sitting!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

nahhh...i've re-read all four of his books. They just get better, all the way through. s1ocki, try Naked!

Alex, who is this Mark Leyner?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

he's 'meh' to me. can be entertaining, less annoying than sarah vowell (sp?)

Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

Mark Leyner is a writer. His books include....

"I Smell Esther Williams" (despite the great title, not his finest hour).

"Et Tu, Babe?" (his "breakout" work).

"Tooth Imprints on a Corn Dog" (my favorite)

"The Teatherballs of Bougainville"

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

alex - i just bought et tu babe online for a buck - thanks for the tip. i'll be sure to check out Tooth Imprints...next if I dig him. Always looking for stuff to read.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:51 (twenty years ago) link

Definetly let me know what you think, Roger. I've been trying to spread the Leyner word for ages. I promise you you'll enjoy it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes he's a bit of a pussy and like Matos said a touch mild, but when he works for me it's very genuine, like your grandmother breaking her usual routine to say something chillingly observant on ass-to-mouth or something.

Le Coq (DarrenK), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

Darren your brane is a cesspool.

Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

your grandmother breaking her usual routine to say something chillingly observant on ass-to-mouth

Does this happen often? Is your grandmother Robyn Byrd or something?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:04 (twenty years ago) link

hahaha!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

I read a couple Leyner books ages and ages ago, and they did really crack me up.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:13 (twenty years ago) link

I remember reading _Et Tu, Babe_ when it came out and liking it a lot. But then not hearing about Leyner ever again. It seemed like his whole super-over-the-top trick was co-opted and devalued during the mid-late 90s. I'm trying to think of good examples to back that up. I'll check _Tooth Imprints..._ if I can find it cheap-

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

For what it's worth, I laughed much harder reading "Tooth Imprints..." than "Et Tu..". "The Teatherballs of Bougainville" was a departure for nowhere, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link

George Saunders said in an nterview that Mark Leyner was one of his favourite writers.

R bunged V (Jake Proudlock), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

_My Cousin, My Gastroenterologist_!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

That's the one I was forgetting! Thanks, Dan.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

That's the only one I've read and I LURVE it! A friend has been bugging me to get _Et Tu, Babe_ for years but I just haven't gotten around to it yet (TOO MUCH PULP FANTASY).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

I don't find Sedaris as side-achingly hilarious as most people do. But I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

Mark Leyner is even more funny read out loud. That guy utilizes some of the oddest words in the English language.

He used to do a semi-regular column for Esquire during the mid/late 90s and a few were quite funny.

"In the kingdom of boredom, I wear the royal sweatpants."

earlnash, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

Hahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, that sounds more like Dave Barry to me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.virtualbookcase.com/covers/cover-45000346.jpg

Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

Oh well, it was a picture of Dave Barry on a toilet, saying "Dave Barry is not Taking this Sitting Down."

Nemo (JND), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:10 (twenty years ago) link

Sedaris does a scary impression of Billie Holiday. Ergo, Classic.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

If he ever sings "My Man" I would die.

dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

Mark Leyner is absolutely NOTHING like Dave Barry.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

I believe you! But that QUOTE sure is. I half expect a general ramble about Florida weather and wacky neighbors now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

Classic for the Santa stories, but he's funnier in person than on the page. He signed a book for me a few years back, sat chatting to everyone in the queue for ages, dispensing advice and insults. I think he told me, stop living with your parents and get a life.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

That's awesome (and good advice) - I'd love to meet him, especially after hearing the concert at Carnegie Hall. I think he's one of the funniest poeple alive.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

My copy of "Naked" is signed "For Chris Piuma, on the ocassion of his 37th birthday."

I am neither 37 nor is that how "occasion" is spelt.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 22:34 (twenty years ago) link

Sedaris a genius? At best he's just, like, funny-ish, in that pretty plumb-average essay-as-standup kind of way. Not to mention which I've grown completely unable to stand the whole "I am so gay" schtick he used to flog so hard. "Boy was I one gay kid! I had a lisp and everything! Isn't that so funny? In kintergarten we would all dress up as what we wanted to be when we grew up and all the other kids would dress up as astronauts and firemen but I dressed up as Liza Minelli! Because isn't that so funny, I was Gay-Stereotype Child!" Don't get me wrong, he's really funny, I'm not even going to try and pretend that his stuff's not as normal satisfying-funny as yr average Stand-Up Essay but a genius? NPR personal-essay humor is so not genius.

nabiscothingy, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
He just did a lecture at the Tennessee Theatre and it had me roffling in my crappy seat in spite of myself. He read a story he had written about him and Amy looking through a bestiality magazine which culminated in the top five reasons NOT to blow a horse in your bedroom (number three was the possibility your parents might drop by.) He did a nice question and answer session after his readings, and he was quite the witty one off the cuff, as well.

Lots of older, upper class grandfatherly types and young college indies at the lecture, and both groups laughed heartily, together.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd never read him 'til now but am currently about half way through "Me talk Pretty..." and am not finding him anywhere near as funny as everyone told me he was. I think i luaghed a couple of times at the opening story and found the one about the family pets quite sweet but it seems to me no more edgy than something like Garrison Keiler, uh.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

funny = edgy?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

the rooster yall - http://www.sedarishardwoodfloors.com/

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Neither edgy nor particularly funny but that's what people told me. I really don't see how anyone could think he was genius even if they did like him.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

not being able to understand others is an admirable trait to congrat yourself over! i salute you!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i read "me talk pretty one day" and "naked".. those books made me really like him, and want to hug him. the anecdotes made me smile. but the reviews on the back with references to side-splitting laughter and stuff did have be perplexed - they just didn't seem like that kind of book! i am impressed with his perception to unusual details in life though.

but he does seem like the kind of guys who'd be really funny talking to you in real life.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the story he told on one of his last appearances on Fresh Air was killer, about how he got kicked out of the house by his dad for being gay(he thought it was cuz he was a pot-head). just the way he deadpanned about wondering what the passing cars thought of his mum crying. "Just another upset mom driving along, with her stoned, gay son."

kingfish, Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I got coffee w. David & Hugh a few years ago in SF ('99?). This was before the big Sedaris-appreciation-explosion. They were both really charming, and kind. David Rakoff was with them, and he was depressing, but the most hilarious of all of them.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot the good part of the story: Dave wrote 'Jeremy: I no longer "get" erections' on a napkin, folded it up, and gave it to me. I have no idea what the hell he was talking about, but I still have the napkin.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Naked is much much better than his other books. Both funnier and more satisfying. I am currently rereading it, and I lost my shit over his decription of his and his sibling's attempts to impress his grandma's insane roomamate at the old folks' home:

We organized a variety show tailored to Mrs. Denardo's exotic tastes and practiced for weeks, moving from the song "Getting to Know You" to a dramatic re-enactment of the St. Valentine's Day massacre.

"Your show was a piece of stinking shit," she yelled, surrounded by ana audience of beaming senior citizens. "You don't know fuck about shit, niggers."

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 14 April 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

not being able to understand others is an admirable trait to congrat yourself over! i salute you!

who me? i'm not congratulating myself, what are you getting at?

jed_ (jed), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

wow, lots more love than i would have imagined. he's so horrible and schticky.

gershy, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:02 (sixteen years ago) link

two things in one!

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link

schtickible

gershy, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:12 (sixteen years ago) link

hicky

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:12 (sixteen years ago) link

big racist fanbase, no?

omar little, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link

kaneclap crit

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i've never found him funny or gotten the appeal at ALL.

Stevie D, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link

he's kinda quaint and readable i guess but i really don't get how people can laugh OUT LOUD at his stuff

J.D., Wednesday, 23 January 2008 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

He has his moments. The story about him teaching the creative writing class has some very good bits in it.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost, yeah, he's a smiley aw bless but not really LOL.

ken c, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i like it though.

and i guess if he told me those stories in real life like in a pub or something i probably will LOL just to be polite.

ken c, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

he and the Coen brothers should collaborate on something, they could call it "The World is a Terrarium, I Look Upon On It and Am Amused"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

he's ok in really small doses but good god does he get tiresome after about 30 seconds

s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Andy Sedaris > David Sedaris

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I sometimes read his stuff in The New Yorker. I usually find it mildly amusing but ultimately lacking in energy.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I definitely lol'd at the Rooster bits.

will, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

the stories of his i've liked the most are the ones involving his sister

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

derek sedaris > charlie sedaris > pearl sedaris

s1ocki, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I really hate comedy about being hypersensitive to minor annoyances. See also Seinfeld.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I LLOL (LiterallyLOL) at some point during exposure to anything David Sedaris. Genius.

Jesse, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I laugh everytime he uses the words "piping hot".

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i've only heard one of his 'this american life' pieces (which was actually something he did live) and read a couple of his NYer articles but i totally do not get this guy

n/a, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

the live thing was pretty unbearable because it was about "ugly americans" in paris with the audience chuckling smugly once in a while ... basically just an inversion of "you might be a redneck if..." and not really any funnier or more intelligent

n/a, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Sedaris by Kevin Kopelson.


"If I were to read a book on David Sedaris it might be this one." —Paul Reubens

Jesse, Saturday, 26 January 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Great blurb.

Aimless, Saturday, 26 January 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i kinda understand all the talk about him being mild, but he was pretty brutal in the Barrel Fever days. Stuff like his classic christmas letter short, with the vietnamese daughter and the crack baby in the dryer...hardly "mild" stuff.

Leyner on the other hand, I read My Cousin, Et tu and Corndogs and it's Et Tu, Babe that I always go back to, especially the amazing first couple of pages which it seems I've read over and over again. But I agree that it got played out...I went to a reading with my girlfriend and some guy read a short that was way wacky and crazy and impossible and fantstically and everybody cracked up and all I could think was, he sounds like Mark Leyner.

dan selzer, Saturday, 26 January 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

He has a new book due this year I think. Sedaris , that is

PS xpost he's a racist????

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 26 January 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeh, I was wondering about that too. A couple of his stories quote other people using the word "nigger" but does that make his fan base racist?

Jesse, Saturday, 26 January 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

There was the story about his accompanying his brother to buy weed. One of the rednecks he was buying from asked David to pass him the "nigger," which he was supposed to understand meant the TV remote control.

Jesse, Saturday, 26 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I still fail to see how this makes him - or his 'fan base,' which, it seems to me, is largely comprised of socially liberal NPR types - racist

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 26 January 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

There was the story about his accompanying his brother to buy weed. One of the rednecks he was buying from asked David to pass him the "nigger," which he was supposed to understand meant the TV remote control.

I read that story. That doesn't make him a racist. If anything, his point of bringing it up was to expose the brand of idiot he was dealing with.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 26 January 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

-- roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:06 (4 years ago) Link

The racist bit was about this guy.

s. morris, Saturday, 26 January 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Amy Sedaris>>>>>David Sedaris

leavethecapital, Saturday, 26 January 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay there was that one where he's working as a paint stripper with this black guy who has completely fucking different personalities around everyone. He's a total over-the-top Stepin Fetchitt around his boss but around David he's all like, "You ever fucked a jewess with a cane?" And quoting that one out of any context would sure as fuck make you sound racist.

But in another he was all making fun of his fourth grade teacher for talking about how a black girl wanted to touch her blonde hair. "That's what they want," she said, "To be like us." As an intro into how he got treated for obviously being little Liberace junior (as he makes it out).

My favorite stuff of his is where he talks about his shit jobs, bcz boy can I fucking relate, and his shit that is just straight-up fucking cruel. His recent stuff has gotten more boring because he has ran out of stories about the cruel & unusual in his past.

Abbott, Saturday, 26 January 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I really hate comedy about being hypersensitive to minor annoyances. See also Seinfeld.

HURTING: "People who laugh at David Sedaris - what's THAT about?"

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 January 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I read some Leyrner (sp?) earlier and it reminded me of Barrel Fever fiction which is my least favorite David Sedaris. Both are sort of entertaining but the incessant wackiness of both gets tiresome. It reminds me of stuff I used to think/write when I smoked a lot of pot (which was probably what Sedaris was doing while writing Barrel Fever).

Jesse, Sunday, 27 January 2008 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"You ever fucked a jewess with a cane?"

"You ever pour motor oil all over a college girl's titties?" : D

My friends and I had a Sedaris book that we used to read out loud to each other when we were stoned. Then, when I moved across the country, my sister and I picked up a book-on-tape version to listen to while driving. David Sedaris does not have a good voice to listen to on road trips.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 27 January 2008 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

As far as Leyner goes, I'm a Tetherballs of Bougainville fan all the way: "Spit the sun into the sky/I'm so hard I think I'll die!"

I'm kinda glad that he hasn't put out anything in a decade or so though - he went out on top.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 27 January 2008 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

What happened to him, anyone? He just seemed to stop writing, period.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 27 January 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I could make something up about his present life, which is what I generally do in these situations. However, I am feeling unusually truthful this morning, so: I don't know.

Aimless, Sunday, 27 January 2008 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

(re: yesterday's conversation -- I remembered reading this 10 years ago.)

http://www.slate.com/id/3695/entry/24547/

I went early this afternoon to the NPR studio and recorded a Thanksgiving story for Morning Edition. It's always interesting to discover what can and cannot be said on the radio. A few years ago I spent time in Raleigh, N.C., where, on two separate occasions, I heard people say, "This show's boring. Hand me the nigger." The nigger is what they call the remote control, "because it's black and it does the work for you." I find this to be a curious bit of cultural information, but, no matter how hard I try, they won't put it on the radio. Next month I'm supposed to begin a series of recordings for the BBC. Whenever they call, I pick up the phone to hear an urgent voice whispering, "London calling, please hold the line." The producer uses words such as "Jolly" and "Cheerio!" and explains that I'll have to rework a few of the stories to fit what he calls "the British sensibility." I'm hoping that maybe they'll take all the stories I can't get on NPR. Maybe the English will listen, thinking, "Well that's America for you."

Eazy, Sunday, 27 January 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i liked the thing in the recent new yorker a lot

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

genius is overselling it but this guy makes tears roll down my face with laughter.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...

Can't find any release date for C.O.G. in Canada.

ljubljana, Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link


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