Boston -- Classic or Dirty Water?

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Sure, we already had Ally's trip to Boston, but now that we have more people either from the area or admitting they relive Game 6 of '86 in their mind as a sort of self-imposed torture, let's get down to it. Brilliantly vibrant social center of New England or polluted filth-bag collection of drunks? Carl Yazstremski or Bill Buckner? Aerosmith '75 or Aerosmith now?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I say neither. My wife, however, says it's a screaming dud. I think the combination of rude behavior + cold weather - everything that makes New York cool = gigantic disappointment for Joei. In fact, she's fond of reminding me that if I would just stop finding great jobs out here, we could move somewhere nice, like Memphis.

I have nothing against Memphis, mind you (beyond a somewhat irrational feeling that moving back to the city where you grew up is tantamount to giving up), but if we're going to move to the South, I would much prefer Atlanta or the DC area. If we move at all, I'd like to go to San Francisco, DC, Chicago, Vancouver, Montreal, London, Berlin, Sydney, or Amsterdam. (If I knew Japanese, Tokyo would also be under consideration.)

Dan Perry, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Boston, ah Boston, the Hub. Well, "brilliantly vibrant social center", those are big words. Boston is a lot smaller than it thinks it is, in almost every way. Hey I love the bad attitude, I didn't have to say good morning to nobody!

Aerosmith now, please. I think the early 80's version (Steven Tyler locked away in seedy motels, emerging only to score smack) was preferable to todays incarnation. Though pissing off the crowd at the Indianapolis 500 is always admirable.

As much as I hate to admit it now, I used to be a Mets fan, and so alienated friends and family in 1986. Though on the bright side, the gambling was nice, I won countless bets and took money from friends and family alike.

Tom Porrino, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I grew up in a town in Connecticut on the Rhode Island border halfway between Boston and New York. Everytime my family went on a big city type vacation, it was *always* to Boston. I think my parents were really intimidated by New York. Consequently, I grew to hate Boston. And moved to New York as soon as I turned 18.

My parents still want me to move there. "We know you like big cities, how come you never gave Boston a try?" Because it always feels second rate to me. Sorry, Bostonians. And it just doesn't seem as gregarious a town as New York. Though it's a hell of a lot friendlier than the town I live in now, Los Angeles.

Arthur, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Boston is too expensive.

Mike Hanle y, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I don't know. Boston was fun when I was there but I'd hate to be there much longer than I was - everything closes so early! I was really amazed by that.

Ally, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

First, Ned, it's spelt Carl Yastrzemski. As great as the Rooster was he is not by any stretch better than Manny, so 70s Boston loses in left field. But: Harvard Square hadn't become utterly uninteresting yet, Aerosmith didn't take showers yet... close call. But I'd still trade it all for Manny.

Boston sucks - there's this uneasy alliance of crude arrogance and history preserved in aspic, like if everybody in Edinburgh had a Glasgow attitude. DUD. This much we know. Cambridge is even worse. Somerville, now.... Somerville is where it's at. And I'll throw in Medford too.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

When I'm at the Middle East, sweating my ass off, witnessing a great band achieve greatness (or a reasonable facsimile), Boston is classic. However, when I drive through Boston, and get miserably lost, or when I'm in Boston past 1 AM, and there's nothing to do except ... well, nothing, or when I drive back to sad little CT from Boston at 2:30 in the AM, or when I consider how much it would cost me to live there, then it's bilge pump fodder.

However, it has the big city charm (from the hours of 6 AM to 1 AM) without much of the skeevy element that causes me to despise New York when I'm not in awe of it. However, were I living on the outskirts of Boston, working in some sort of programming capacity, pulling down the mean green, I would be in such heaven. (For a little while, anyway.) That said, I should probably escape the East Coast one of these days and check out US locales not named Bump or Bend or Coos Bay.

David Raposa, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...
Can't wait to leave this lame city. A conservative, cold-hearted town filled with its own self-importance, populated by snobs, prigs, fratboys, and idiot townies with bad attitudes and even worse accents. A peevish city, reflected in everything from the the confusing streets, the hostile and suspicious nature of people who walk them (observe the dead-eyed stares that greet you when you say hello), the blighted architecture, the endless barrage of tube-light lit greasy pizza and sub joints, invariably titled "Cappy's Pizza and Subs No. 4".

The traffic. Where else do people routinely cut you off, then give YOU the finger? Where else but Boston can you find signs that say "traffic lights timed for frequent stops". Why are there so many intersections where the two streets have the same name? And is there a law against signs which name the major streets? Why is everything so backwards here?

Why, why, with so many young people, is there so little alternative culture here? Why are there so many sports bars?

Why does it cost so much? Sure, you can find similar prices in SF or NYC, but take a look at the space, quality, style and the neighborhoods in those cities. People keep going on about how close something is to "Central Square". Who cares? - So you can be near to the Maxi's 99c store, a (ubiquitous) Dunkin Donuts, the Jax liquidation outlet, Putnam's discount furniture, the list goes on. $1400 for a filthy 1br hole in some horrible vinyl-sided 70s renovation in this "highly desirable" neighborhood.

I guess this dowdy puritanical New England town is just not for me.

Jim Spalding, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

old white people working at mcdonalds=classic
most people thirty or so pounds heavier than west coast equivs=classic
chunky girls rocking hip huggers and showing off their chunky midriffs=classic
boston accents=classic
good public transport=classic
fried dough=classic
naked racism=dud
provincial small-town insular snob idiocy=dud

dj, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Barely tolerable if you are between 18 and 22, or live within a half mile of your childhood home, unbelievably uptight if you aren't. I had a job interview with some stuffy bastard who was trying to channel John Houseman despite being maybe thirty-five years old go down the toilet when he commented on the fact that I had the Herald under my arm: "You may put your Racing Form." Maybe the only place in America where a system of class and neighborhood accents not only persists, but determines your fate. Mass transit that craps out at midnight. A good chance of being in an ugly fight if you're at any bar outside your neighborhood (or outside one of the horrible student areas). Blue laws.

Benjamin, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
I have been a Boston native all my life (Boston area that is)....sorry to say that I agree with most of the negative commentaries about Boston....I personally don't exactly know why everyone who thinks Boston is great thinks it is great...we really DO NOT have a lot of cultural venues here ie live music,theater, etc. Sure the BSO is a world class symphony, but how many times am I going to listen to them...and when I want to hear some decent blues band playing somewhere, how many clubs really have that going on....THIS IS NOT Chicago!!!!.....Boston is a frumpy, dowdy city living too long on it's out dated reputation of being "the Athens of America".....yeah, right!!!...Boston DOES close down WAY too early, people are extremely unfriendly, cold and arrogant (sorry, ladies, but Boston women are probably the most anal retentive picky choosy creatures this side of the dark side of the moon...I've said enough

Philip D Harris, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

For this I gave up my incredible rent-controlled apartment in Gramercy Park? I give up. How the hell do you touch these people? I have found no way to connect with people here. And I'm an EXTROVERT! My impression is that people here have no curiosity about you unless they suspect you of doing something illegal, which they then take the opportunity to narc on you because that at least is something they know they enjoy. Are there no people who appreciate good intentions and neighborliness and courtesy? Here nothing at all is acknowledged by anyone, like there's this big secret everyone knkows but no one wnts to talk about. Talk about dysfunctional. This place puzzles the hell out of me. I've learned to keep my mouth shut and not be my normal self because people here get all freaked out if you stand out in any way. I feel like I'm in Communist China and I find it hugely frustrating to have to live in such a repressed fashion. I'm FRIENDLY! What's so wrong with that? In NY, people are thrilled if you're friendly to them; here, people act like they want you to go fuck yourself. I resent it. I've been here since Jan. 01 and I have to say, I really resent it.

Sue Shapiro, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I have several friends who currently live in Boston, or recently moved there, and they really want me to visit. Come on! Someone here must love Boston. I refuse to believe it is just that universally negative...

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

The trick to liking Boston is going when it's warm. The winters aren't even that bad here (says the Minnesota boy), yet people use them as an excuse to be utter bastards to each other.

Dan Perry, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Did you not read my semi-glowing review up there, Brian?

David Raposa, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I did. But as you said, it was semi-glowing...as opposed to, well, full on SPARKY!

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Boston is the devil's city.

Ally, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

b-but...well, Johnathan Richman wrote some good songs about Boston. That's the best I can do. And it has a cool aquarium.

turner, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

The 1 AM curfew sucks ass (though, going up there on a Saturday night, things seemed to be A OK around 2 AM - must depend on the section of town, I dunno), but there's plenty to do & see, plenty of pollution and crime to be had, and loads of overpriced joints to patronize. Just, please, for you own safety, DO NOT DRIVE IN BOSTON. There is public transportation in that city for a very good reason.

So, yeah, Bri, visit, ya fule.

David Raposa, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I think, dear Brian, you should persuade all these Bostonians to visit YOU. Then they'll move. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Boston is classic cos E.T.J.F.N. lives there.

youn, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

To think, some people laugh at me when I tell them that Philadelphia is immeasurably better than Boston. I'll point them to this thread and laugh at them. And at least the Phillies have won a World Series during my lifetime!

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Dude, getting a kick in the balls is better than Boston, of course Philly is better. I went up there to visit my sister and we could literally see where she was from all points driving but had no discernible way to GET to her because the roads just don't go anywhere but a big circle.

Ally, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
I couldn't agree more with Sue Shapiro's post. I've been here for four years now, and the first two were not bad (honeymoon period, I guess). I have never witnessed so much rude and cold behavior in any city. It's really a shame, because the area is nice, the city a manageable size and nature is close by. It's really the people that are ridiculous. I think the key is to stay friendly with people from other countries, they are much more open. If you must visit here, just be aware that this is not a friendly place. My friends in other places always warn me not to become like the typical person here.

Theresa Smith, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I am amazed by the fact that my not-so-innocent query all these months ago has turned into a venting session that makes all the complaints I've ever run into about LA seem like mere grumbles.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
Wow. You people sure do hate this town. I don't know anyone here in this room, and the only reason I ran into this page is because I was trying to find the lyrics to the song "Dirty Water", which is the title of this room. Maybe you folks are familiar with it, maybe not, but chances are you didn't know that The Standells were an LA band who wrote the song about a time their lead singer got mugged while he was in Boston. The folks at Fenway play it every time the Sox win a home game. Every time. To me, that is beautiful. The trick to Boston is you gotta have a knack for appreciating these people rather than shitting on them. Boston is not a town for soft pricks and we don't need your condescending bullshit. Just move to New York, become a Yankees fan, and live your lives in comfortable normalcy.

bj winter, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah... sue shapiro, if you're so goddamn unhappy, just MOVE... prolly people tell you to go fuck yourself because you're annoying as hell... jesus...

bj winter, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

And people wonder why I say New Yorkers are nicer than Bostonians!

Dan Perry, Friday, 1 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
I've been here since August 2000, and I'd like to tell all the Bostonians to get over yourlseves. It seems that things (clothes, food, music) get popular in Boston about five or six months after they hit NYC. After trying to find any form of culture or racial integration in this backwoods town (I refuse to call Boston a city), I've determined all Boston is is a gigantic college town, just a larger version of Hanover, NH where I went to college. And all these college students are exactly the same. Same personality, same interests, same wants. And they all listen to Jamn 94.5, which might be the absolute worst radio station ever. Same ten songs on repeat, same five artists. Even when the "turntablists" take over, it's still the same ten songs, just in a different order. What it comes down to is that there's no variety. If you want to live in a Puritanical town that closes down when NYC wakes up, has no variety at all, let alone racial integration, and is full of Abercrombie clad frat-boys and recent graduates who want to relive their frat-boy glory, come to Boston. Personally, if I didn't absolutely love my job, I would have moved back to NYC a long time ago.

T. Kayas, Saturday, 23 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I find these criticisms interesting, because so many of them are like...seeing Oxford Street and coming to the conclusion that London sucks, or going to Fifth Avenue and deciding that NYC sucks. Why bother listening to "Jamn 94.5" bullshit commercial radio when there are so many great college radio stations here? Turn that dial leftward! We've got some of the greatest college radio stations in the country--WMBR, WZBC, and WHRB, to name but a few.

First off, I've been living here going on five years now. I've never lived in "Boston" proper--I lived in Cambridge for 4 years (MIT), and now I work on documentary films for WGBH (the Boston PBS affiliate) and live in Somerville. I think in order to love/hate this place fully, you've got to experience all the parts of it.

Of course most of Boston--the rich, snotty parts, like the Back Bay--suck. Avoid them like the plague. Yes, Central Square (which is in Cambridge, not Boston) has become more gentrified..but look beyond Central; explore the outer edges..Jamaica Plain, Brighton, Allston, Somerville. South Boston. The parts of Cambridge that aren't directly on the T but still within walking distance. The parts that are less traveled.

There is beauty here; you just have to find it. And as much as I sometimes think I hate living here, I find myself getting defensive about it. Today in Central Square I ran into a group of kids from Berkeley. They were walking down Mass Ave, and one of them said "Dude, this is nothing like Telegraph." Of course it's not.. keep your alterna-hippies to yourself, I say. Sure, we don't have Amoeba Records, but we do have some fucking good record stores here! I live a stone's throw away from Other Music, Planet Records, Disc Diggers, Twisted Village, and Nuggets, to name but a few of the great independently- minded music shops around here.

So I found myself walking these Berkeley kids around Central Square, pointing at things and saying "See this bank? This used to be an anarchist bookstore. See this Gap and this Starbucks? This block used to be full of great independent coffeehouses." I felt terrible, and cheesy, a back-in-the-day geezer even though I'm in my 20s. But this small-town city is a part of me. Then I pointed them out to some interesting places that they should go. I cheer for the little independents around the city that are still thriving, and support them as much as I can. Central Square still does have things going for it. The Middle East, for one, (with many great & cheap shows this year!), Harvest, 1369 Coffeehouse, etc. I live near Davis Square now, which has got a good amount of independent coffeeshops, bookstores, and bars...good restaurants, and its own modest little art scene that isn't New York in scale but doesn't try to be. Everything here is in miniature, but there's something odd and wonderful about that sometimes.

Sometimes I feel like I'm living on a sinking ship--like this place has had it's day and now it's over. But that's like crying and saying that you'll never listen to an other band after the Pixies broke up, because they were the best band ever. (Mind you, I did this.) You've got to keep looking around for the interesting bits of life. And when I move out of here for good in August for grad school, I think I will miss it sorely, because for as many faults as Cambridge/Somerville/ Boston/etc have, they've still got a lot of good, and a lot that we take for granted.

And hey, if anyone is visiting the Boston area, send me an email and I'd be glad to show you around to all the glorious weird bits that still lie below the surface.

geeta, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Geeta, I think you've hit the exact reason why I can't stand being here. I've tried going out to the places "off the beaten path." And you're right. There is a quaint charm about a lot of these places. But you also say that it's smaller and quieter than NYC. And that's what bugs me. One of my friends who moved from Mattapan to NYC told me that NYC will spoil you silly. You can find things there that you can't find anywhere else, at whatever time in the day or night you want. The fact that I can't find a good pretzel, or a good knish, or Thai food at 4 in the morning makes me want to return. I think that if I were from anywhere else in the US I would enjoy my time in Boston. As I was born and raised in New York, my views are somewhat skewed.

T. Kayas, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Inman Square rocked when I lived there, and still rocks as of last summer's visit.

Colin Meeder, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Geeta, you make many valid points about the Boston area. One thing I find frustrating about living here is that so many of the cool things are "hidden". Inman Square does indeed rock; I lived there for two years. It's a 15-20 minute walk away from the train, though, which is going to be daunting to casual visitors or people without cars. There are many cool places in Allston and Brighton, but it takes forever to get anywhere on the B line and the C line isn't much better. Somerville has many cool spots, but the T doesn't go to many of them. There's a lot of stuff to do in the city, but it closes down a lot earlier than you would think a town full of college students should.

Really, a lot of the problems Boston has could be marked down to poor transportation infrastructure. Make it easier for people to go places and more people will consider going to them.

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

OK.. now what is this supposed time that all of Boston closes down? 'cuz, for all practical purposes, most of southern California closes down at 9pm... for the sake of comparison.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Anywhere between 1 AM and 2 AM. Orange County must be very different from LA, because the times I've spent in LA I've been able to find public venues where I could entertain myself until 4 AM.

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, OC is its own strange locale...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 TO 2AM? GASP! WHAT KIND OF BARBARIC FASCIST STATE IS THIS? :P

Hell, Seattle pretty much winds down at 2am on any given night, with the exception of a few later places... and that doesn't seem too, ur, restrictive... Or is everyone in Boston an excommunicatee from New York?

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Orange County must be very different from LA, because the times I've spent in LA I've been able to find public venues where I could entertain myself until 4 AM.

Same deal with OC.

What I define as "shutdown" time is the time where 80% of nightlife retail shuts down, therefore making barhopping, convenience store loitering, and various shopping vices difficult. The odd open late night joint or rock venue doesn't count.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but that's the thing; there's no such thing as a rock venue or club that's open after 2 AM here. NOTHING. 24 hour convenience stores aren't that hard to find and I can think of at least three restaurants/sandwich places which stay open late on weekends, but that's it. If you want to dance until dawn, you can't do it in Boston (unless you "know someone" or host it in your house, which has its own drawbacks).

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
ok, I grew up in the Boston area and I have to agree with pretty much all of what has been posted on this site. After moving to Seattle, which is abundant in both nature and friendly people- then moving back here- it is clearer to me than ever that Boston is dirty, rude and outrageously over-priced. Yea, Cambridge is cool if you can AFFORD to live there without 7 roomates (if you are a young married couple forget it!) and god forbid you have a car because you can't park it anywhere without it costing a fortune. - all this headache for what??? Its not worth it in my opinion especially when you have angry (and thats putting it lightly) people all over the place (the response from the angry Bostonian on this website is a perfect example)-they are probably pissed off because they are broke from paying too much rent, can't find a parking spot, was just given the finger by some idiot who cut them off and has no place to go because its 1:30am! Not to mention this place is so SEGREGATED!!! But I don't think that NYC is any better in the rude department- I do business mostly with New Yorkers and they seem to think there is nowhere else on this planet except New York. They are impatient, rude, not to mention stuck up as all hell. They have much better restaurants and theater though :) I vote west coast - Life is much more simple out there and people aren't so pissed off (unless you're in L.A)

melysa, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
OK. Boston is not NYC or San Francisco. The people are rude and the driving sucks. But where else would you want to live? I was recently in Charlotte, NC, which is roughly the same size as Boston, and boy did it suck! I've lived in Minneapolis, and I must say Boston is so much better! I've also lived in Chicago which definitely sucks. There's more to do after dark, but it is so sports obsessed (surprisingly more so than Boston) and it's pretty racist too. Also, it's so much uglier than Boston. I would choose to live in NYC or SF over Boston any day, but Boston could be A LOT worse.

Eliza Sherman, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

OK, now that I've spent a little time in Boston... or more specifically, Cambridge... I dug it. I don't know how long I'd last there if I lived there, granted -- but I lucked out in staying with an extremely friendly group of people, and meeting other amazing folks along the way (Dan, as one of many examples).

I did arrive there when the weather became really good, so maybe that's why everyone along the way was so friendly (I'm talking passerbys here, not just friends). And the public transportation is good...

I'm very likely coming back for Terrastock in October...

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Boston is a great city, I lived their up until August 2001. Moved out because it did get way too expensive. The cities great, the people are great, and the RED SOX are great.

Chris, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'm very likely coming back for Terrastock in October...

Woo-hoo!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to have to save up for this Terrastock. $70 is hard to come by these days.

Chris, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i take back everything i once said on this thread: visiting = classic, living here for five fucking years = dud absolute

geeta, Friday, 10 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Oh, don't say shit like that - I'm thinking of moving there in 2-20 years! Dang, yo.

Daver, Saturday, 11 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

to bj -- I've completely changed my mind about living in Boston -- it's more wonderful than I can imagine and so I'm never leaving. In fact I'll be moving right next door to you. Ta Ta!

Sue Shapiro, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
I love this city, so having read through all these emails, I have to respond. I could talk about how much I love it all day, and this email will probably take about that long to read.

Note too that I don't need to trash other cities to defend here. The great things about Boston speak for themselves. If you want to hate Boston, it's easy to do, but it's also easy to do that anywhere. I know grass-is-always-greener type of people. But if you want to love Boston, it's really easy too. It's a great walking city with a lot of fun things to do.

People talk about the lack of integration, but I don't know how many of you have walked through the South End, where you'll see people from every continent in the world and other diverse backgrounds all on the same streets. And people say hello to you when you're walking down the street there. JP is really integrated too. Or check out Cambridge or Maverick Square in East Boston. Since the 1990 census, every area that had predominantly one racial group lost people from that group and gained people from other groups. We also have the university with the most nations represented (BU) of any university in the nation.

Things close at 2 and it's definitely annoying, but you can go to the North End, Chinatown, or certain bars after and hang around for most of the night. Boston's great in the day too. You're never more than two blocks from a great park of some waterfront, and there are some of the most beautiful skyline views in the world here. Check out the view from the East Boston waterfront, or the view when you're landing at the airport or the view from the Mass Ave Bridge. Walk along the harbor walk throughout the north end and South Boston.

As to friendly people, try really smiling and saying hi to people as you walk in the morning. Sure, many will look away or not say hi. I've tried the same experiment in a bunch of cities and that's true everywhere, but some people will say hi. And people are much more likely to say hi if you're just a bit further from downtown or the touristy areas- once you get into neighborhoods.

We definitely have great culture at a manageable size. We spend the most on culture per capita of any major city in the US. Our Symphony Hall is one of the three best, acoustically, in the world. Our Museum of Fine Arts has the second largest art collection in the Western Hemisphere. Then we also have several university art museums, the Museum of Bad Art, the world's largest outdoor modern art exhibition center (in the western part of the state), and a great sculpture park in Lincoln, MA.

Our local music scene is great. Listen to 101.7, WFNX radio, or the college stations and check out the bars around Central Square.

And it's a city of today. Where else can you find two of the nations top universities (three of the top 25) within four stops on a public transportation line? Where else do you have 5 of the top 10 hospitals in the nation? The largest music store in the world? The largest university library collection (the third largest library collection in general)? The most books per square mile in the nation (Harvard Square)? People who don't need to spend an hour getting ready to leave the house every morning? The city ranked healthiest in the nation by men's health? And the most liveable by some Swiss Magazine.

Then Massachusetts is ranked the second best place in the nation to raise a child for a combination of safety, education and other reasons. This is one of the best job markets in the nation, and has the most college-educated population of any state.

Boston brought you the telephone, the Internet, anasthesia, the nation's first subway, the nation's first post office, the nation's first police department, the nation's first YMCA, the birthplace of two churches, the bulk of 19th century literature.

Then let's talk about people. Harvard educated 7 of the nation's presidents. 4 presidents called MA home. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X both called Boston home at one time or another. We were the birthplace of the abolitionist movement and a center of the women's rights movement. We are undoubtedly the nation's greatest sports town, but if you don't like sports, it's not hard to find ways to avoid them altogether.

We had the most breweries per capita in the nation at the turn of the 20th century. Today, we have much of the best beer again. Sam Adams is great and a tour of the brewery, including 4 samples of beer and a free souvenir glass is only $1.

We have two of the nation's top 10 beaches, aesthetically, within this state. 3 of the top four liberal arts colleges (including the best women's one). The best roller coaster in the world, according to Park World Magazine (at 6 flags New England). We have one of the lowest murder rates in the nation in this state, and we have been held up as a national example of crime prevention.

We've also been seen as a national example for tobacco prevention, public health, and foster care and adoption services.

This is a city filled with life and on the cusp of more great things. The completion of the Big Dig will bring beautiful parks. We're updating our waterfront, our airport, and our sports parks. There's construction all over the city. Sure the construction doesn't look that great, but it's a sign of a city that's very alive.

We have always been a leading architectural city in this nation, and our building codes work very hard to ensure we keep things to scale. That's why our tallest skyscraper is only 60 stories. We have architecture from 4 centuries here, from famous names including I.M. Pei and Le Corbusier (Harvard's campus is the only place in the nation with architecture from him). We have intricate sculptures on the storefronts in downtown crossing and the building fronts in the financial district. Our skyscrapers show a lot of variation. Trinity Church is considered one of the top 10 architectural structures in the nation.

our ice cream is great; try Herrel's in Harvard Square, especially for their frappes.

If you know where to look, we have every ethnic food imaginable. And we continue to keep the independent stores alive. Some unfortunately are being lost to chains, but we still have many. Check out places like Arlington Center and other small town centers for these. The strip mall is not as ubiquitous here as elsewhere, and we have nice town centers.

Then the history is awesome.

Also, we're actually not as expensive a place for housing as many had thought. Recent census info showed that.

So I have way too good a memory for this stuff. I love my city, and if you have a pre-determined opinion, it's easy to remember the stuff that confirms it.

I think the windy streets bring more life to the city. It's awesome that cows were urban planners, though the signs could be better.

There are plenty of nice people around here. Don't complain about their city so much, and you'll find more of them.

jp

JP, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ. All I wanted to know was where to find a white hooker.

Pissbreath, Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Le Corbusier (Harvard's campus is the only place in the nation with architecture from him)

By the way, Harvard's campus, or at least the Sert Gallery and the VES department, isn't in Bosting, asshole.

Pissbreath, Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ladies and gentlemen, the thread that keeps on shredding!

Brian MacDonald, Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

You almost had me convinced until you listed 101.7 as a positive about the city. That station has been shit for the past five years.

Dan Perry, Saturday, 29 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
BEAUTIFUL this time of year (Summer), late Spring and early Fall. SUCKS the rest of the time (i.e. most of the year)........and I was born and raised here. Now I'm just trying to convince my significant other to move back to the west coast where I lived for 4 winter-less years.

Paul, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
I came here looking for the lyrics to "dirty water" RI 0wnz

h4h4h4, Friday, 8 November 2002 01:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
All of you who claim to hate Boston or who are bashing it on here, are not true Bostonians. I, like BJ, stumbled across the page and refused to leave it until I found some normalcy, some person who was a Bostonian, not a bunch of whiners who talked smack about to me the greatest city I have ever known. He gave the noramlcy along with only a few others. While you all have this page to say this stuff on, Bostonians go on, living it up and loving every moment of it. I never hear this there, because you are the bitter minority on the topic and I was shcoked to see this page online was so full of people badmouthing Boston. I grew up just outside of Boston and have lived there my whole life. I have spent months though living in other cities all over the nation. Everyone I know from home and everyone I meet from there and especially those form other states, like Boston as much and usually more than theirs. New York has its downfalls although I love it too. I would never love it more than Boston. I recognize things about NYC that I dislike, but I still enjoy it there and would not make nasty genralizations about it, because I enjoy it so. Ironic you all say Bostonians are so rude, you outta read your own mean messages. I love Boston, and know it a lot better than many of you seem to, like JP wrote, 'it is easy to harp on a place'. But I know Boston is a place that if you really knew it, you probably wouldn't want to harp on, and yet I wonder if you people would ever take the time. Maybe you are knew to the area and feel lost. I would never, ever talk bad about it. I do not know who any of you are, but you people are uninterested in the city you live in and you miss the entire true spirit of what this historically old city is all about. It will leave you behind with an attitude like that. Bostonians generally are funny, fun-loving, true sports fan, outgoing people with sharp minds, down-to-earth attitudes, and welcoming personalities! It has some of the best schools in the nation, it has famous restraunts, it had many "firsts", it has plenty of fun things to do, it has so much to offer families, relatives can drive to each other an all live in different parts of the state, and it is not hard to do, and lastly, the people from Boston stand out....they are funny, they have accents often, they are smart, they know their history, they are culturally and racilly diverse, they are liberal, they speak their mind, and they are proud, not cocky (overall) and they should be. They should be because they are Bostonians. They would tell you about your bad attitudes in a heartbeat, and I am glad, that is the way to handle such negativity. I love it in Boston and you people 'can all move' like BJ says, if you want to trash it so hard. I read his e-mail and grinned. He said he doesn't know who any of you are, and neihter do I, but I know I am glad that people who want to talk like that about Boston are NOT REAL BOSTONIANS, AND UNLIKELY TO LIVE THERE IF THEY GET THE CHANCE TO MOVE...PLEASE DO IF YOU CAN...YOU'LL BE HAPPY ABOUT IT AND SO WILL WE. BJ said you could all just move to NY and become Yankkes fans for life....I couldn't agree more and hopefully you will, and for those who are rude in NY (not all are) you can join their ranks or be your happy selves, and then let Boston not have to hear that trash talk again or deal with your bad attitudes, why ever you claim to have them. Oh yeah and talk about snobby...again read your own messages about "how NY is the best...." and all your generalizations...it isn't really. Everywhere has its good and bad. And overall Boston has its great.

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

"real Bostonians" clearly = dud

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh and as JP wrote...we have the best medical centers in the world, leading medical research, and we are improving Boston to beeven greater, every day. I have been around the world, and nothing ever compares, to coming home to Boston. And it probably never will.

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

Matt--

What do you mean? I like CA lots, but what is 'dud' to you? Just curious, nothing more though.

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

I mean M Matos...not Matt...

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

I was kidding. I do a lot of joking about my dislike of Boston on the boards based on one weekend there (and the weekend was great but I could not see myself living there) and it was meant to be in-jokey in that manner. Hope that clears it up

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

M Matos.....

:) :) Cool...by the way...I may have mixed you up with someone and you may not livein CA. If so, my bad...Thanks and Happy Holidays. :) :)

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

nope, I live in NYC

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

I was born in Boston but spent my first four years in Lynn. Does that count? "The armpit of Massachusetts" was great to me. It's still beautiful when I go back. Give me the ocean. Give me people living on top of each other. I was in this little multi-ethnic working class neighborhood, this cul de sac where all the kids played and taught me to talk. I thought my name was Peedah until I moved to Madison, Wisconsin.

Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 24 November 2002 03:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

All of you who claim to hate Boston or who are bashing it on here, are not true Bostonians.

Dude, most of us aren't from Boston, what the hell?

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 24 November 2002 04:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

comparing Boston to NYC is grossly inapt. comparing boston to philadelphia or baltimore (to name just two) is more appropriate. and boston clearly loses to both philly and baltimore.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 24 November 2002 06:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

Um...Ally...

You may not be..but many of these other folks say they now live there...so that was to them.....get it? Not to you....and if you aren't from there you know even less about the place...yes driving can suck, but that is not a reason for me to hate a city, maybe it is for you....but read through these and many people aren't from Boston but NOW LIVE THERE...I, like BJ and others was saying they could all move back to where their from instead of being Boston residents (aka 'Bostonians') because they aren't that anyway, and hate it so much. I see you are not from there....that was not who the Bostonian thing was directed to...you live there you are considered one...excpet for them....and other than traffic why do you like Philly better? I am just curious?

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 14:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Pedah!!

Me too! Lynn...I love it!! Awesome message!

Cass, Sunday, 24 November 2002 15:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

i really, really don't like boston. on the other hand i can well imagine that it's better than loads of other US (or even worldwide) cities; i just can't imagine why people would choose to live here rather than new york or london or...

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

I, like BJ and others was saying they could all move back to where their from instead of being Boston residents

Smooches to you, too. Taking sides: "If you don't like it, go back where you came from!" vs "If you don't like it, what would you like to see different?"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

i guess probably most of my problems with boston stem from it being tiny (also the absurd 2am curfew). as i say, i'm sure it's great as small US cities go, it's just that for me small US cities = gigantic dud.

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

Why was the "Real Bostonian" spending untold hours of his Saturday night defending Boston's nightlife on ILE?

Puritan, get thee to Rhode Island!

Mat Bo (Mat Bo), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

Tim H was explaining to me not long ago that all of the buildings in the centre of Boston are made of wood. Neither of us had been there, so it may not have been the most informed and accurate discussion of the subject ever.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

I still stand by my "hey, my one weekend in Boston and Cambridge was fun" statement. I think, like most cities, if you already know really good people there, that makes a crucial difference. Good people in Boston are really good people, from my experience.. maybe because of the stretching of good character that's required to deal with the, ahem, others.. or not.

Dan, whatever happened to smug Joker fisty guy?

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

To Dan...if you want to see improvements that is different than people bashing it and acting like it is not worth their time because it sucks...and Mat Bo, I spent about 20 minutes on here the other night to defend my city that I miss so much, because I am away at school and saw this page...then I went out and had a blast, so thanks for your input...by the way, I like Rhode Island but I am not a Puritan....

Cass, Monday, 25 November 2002 03:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

other than traffic why do you like Philly better?

Less Bostonians.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 03:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

as always, Ally hit it on the head.

that, and both Philly and Baltimore have better food than Boston. and that includes better seafood. yes, Bostonians, you read that right. so much for Boston Harbor!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 25 November 2002 03:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

anyway, Boston is the ultimate "little town w/ a big town attitude." so of course Bostonians are going to get knocked about a bit when they step to people from, say, NYC or Chicago or London. anyone who thinks that Boston is in the same league as NYC, Chicago, or London is out of their minds. It's especially ludicrous because so many Bostonians (IRL, not necessarily on ILX) have the absurd notion that Boston = center of the universe. Why, because of Harvard? Boston Harbor? The Red Sox? Puleaze.

Philly also has a "little town" attitude, though Philadelphians are more justified in that it's the fifth-largest city in the country. And they aren't as full of themselves and their town as Bostonians are.

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 25 November 2002 03:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

If your reason for thinking Boston is the center of the universe is the Red Sox then I weep for you.

Tad basically explained it anyway, to take things down to the serious level for a sec, because it's so true. I think it's a freaking Massachusetts curse, thinking yourself very bloody important. This is why all the people on this thread who are not from Boston but live there and think a lot of it sucks and should be changed think it sucks and should be changed. It seems kind of telling that the majority of the people who just luuuuuuurve Boston are born there and everyone else wants to blow it up?

Whatever, the Red Sox suck ass, that's what it is.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

Great Cthulhu this thread has gone on...

Anyway, just to dog-pile on Boston some more I have to mention the word that a Maine-born friend of mine uses in reference to Bostonians:

Massholes

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

I don't think there's much of a correlation between the quality of seafood and the quality of Boston Harbor, what with that body of water being so foul and off-limits for so long. Massachusetts Bay, maybe. I was born and bred in the area and I've seen the harbor like five times. It's still mostly blocked by buildings anyway unless for god sakes you really need to see it.

The glorification of "baked scrod" has to be the biggest Boston scam ever. But really, why would Philly have such good seafood? Is it the fish? The preparation? Tad?

Cass I'm really glad you had fun even though you weren't in Boston.

Mat Bo (Mat Bo), Monday, 25 November 2002 05:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

I LOVE Boston and surrounding city area for precisely the reasons cited by Geeta in her praise post above.

I like the Bookstores records shops etc and found Boston much cheaper than NY for things when I was there next weekend. I found the people both friendlier and nicer (cab drivers and waiters). Maybe this is cause I was in Williamsburg NY the previous 2 days - and that place seems to breed horribleness.

Size? It takes only 25 min to get anywhere you need to go if you live sort of in the city. Compared to living in like Zone 2 or 3 or 4 of London for the same price? For all the time I spend commuting I don't have any time to enjoy the things London is supposed to be so great for - not to mention the fact that London does shut down at 1am as well.

Maybe when I hit my 30's I found find Boston's "young" population a bit annoying, but I certainly wanted ot move back there when I was there last weekend.

marianna, Monday, 25 November 2002 10:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

not to mention the fact that London does shut down at 1am as well.

what?? the point is that boston *completely* shuts down at 2am - whereas if i want to be out dancing in london til dawn i can do it any night of the week in any of dozens of places! and doubtless the same will be true of drinking come next summer, too.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Maybe this is cause I was in Williamsburg NY the previous 2 days - and that place seems to breed horribleness.

Well, yes, if you're going to come to NY I'd suggest most anywhere BUT WBurg, especially now a days with all the trustafarians living there.

And yes, London does stay open all night, there's absolutely no difficulty in finding a place to go if you really need to - I defy any Bostonian to tell me an after hours bar there. They've only got ONE strip club you know.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed my trip to Boston very much but I kind of fell in love a bit with NYC so that overshadowed the Boston element.

Best thing about Boston = excellent guides / hosts (thanks Marianna!), good record shops, hanging out with the Perrys.

I was pleased to find that it is not the centre of Boston which is made of wood. The brain box in which I keep my thoughts about Boston is wooden though.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

One more comment about the Red Sox........No need to bring them into this conversation. All this talk about Philly and Baltimore, christ two of the worst teams in all of baseball, and oh yeah those beloved Yankees and Mets really tore it up this year.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

Go to chinatown after hours and you can find quite a few after hours bars. From the looks of this it seems that all Bostonians are getting labeled as massholes? Im not saying that Boston is the greatest city (thats reserved for Worcester ;) but it ain't that bad.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Erg. I was referring to the lack of subway after 1 am - not to mention the pubs shutting at 11. In both cities there ARE places you can go to well past 2 am to do your dirty deeds. NY is the city that never sleeps but London and Boston and pretty much every other US city I've been to, definately nods off around 1am.

marianna, Monday, 25 November 2002 16:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dan, whatever happened to smug Joker fisty guy?

I think he opened for The Clientele! (not really, alas)

Favorite part of the Clientele show was when the lead singer said, "Please turn up the reverb on my mic, there's a real singer in the house," in reference to me (???). I immediately shouted, "MORE FALSETTO!!!" He chuckled and said, "Yes, more out-of-tune, rubbish falsetto... Where's that reverb?" He was GREBT, though.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 November 2002 16:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure the "real singer" was a reference to you Dan Perry!
Viva Mary Chung's!

marianna, Monday, 25 November 2002 16:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Not one message referencing "More Than A Feeling?"

OK, than I'll do it.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Hitch a Ride"

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

RI = much much better than Boston. Now, if only Boston commuters would stop moving to Providence..
I had never been to Boston until this year.. and.. all the historical landmarks + the Isabelle Gardner (sp?) museum = classic, but.. wow ! why does everyone look the same & are all rich & wearing ribbed turtleneck sweaters ? why can't you buy a cool pair of shoes anywhere ? why is everyone in such a bad mood !?

daria g, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

All this talk about Philly and Baltimore, christ two of the worst teams in all of baseball,

Um, the Phillies and the Orioles have won World Series in my lifetime. Which is more than can be said for the Red Sox. Another plus for the Phillies and the Orioles: when their ballparks get run-down and go to seed, they tear them down and build new ones. (same criticism goes for the Cubs, too)

and oh yeah those beloved Yankees and Mets really tore it up this year.

At least the Yankees made it to the playoffs. And I hate the Mets, so I'm probably just as happy as you are that they sucked (and will continue to suck).

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 05:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

yep, they have one champioships in our lifetimes. but i think the sox have a better chance of winning one before either of those two teams do. Granted if the Phils get Thome, then it gets interesting. But their pitching staff does nothing for me. Neither does the Red Sox staff for that matter. When John Burkett is your number 3, there is plenty reason to worry. Ugh I hate being a Boston sports fan. Although my Bruins are tearing it up this year.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 12:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

god excuse my awful engrish up there. thats "won championships"

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 13:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

this thread won't die! and the phillies got thone!

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 7 December 2002 12:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 09:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
i am so bored of boston, NYC is hipster trash these days. that is all.

kephm, Monday, 30 June 2003 17:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

i jsut found $20 outside on the sidewalk. i love boston again

kephm, Monday, 30 June 2003 19:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but you could have been living in your pad and getting your $20 worth of those few minutes of rent.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 30 June 2003 19:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

explain this "getting $20 to live in my pad for a few mintues"
paying rent doesnt bother me.

kephm, Monday, 30 June 2003 19:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, you have a local news reporter named Joe Shortsleeve. This is like having a weatherman with the given name "Storm."

I had fun, although I kept driving around in circles at the junctions of Route 1, I-95, 278(? -- the road that goes to Marblehead/Beverly) and 114 each time I tried to go from anywhere. It was the Blair Witch project of driving ("AIEEE!! We were just here!!) But now I understand why New Englanders give such strange directions: There is no such thing as a plain left turn, right turn, or a street that keeps its same name past more than a few lights. "Curl around right" is a valid and useful direction. And Dunkin' Donuts really is a very convenient landmark.

I think Mary would like Salem Willows. Skee Ball has gone up to 25 cents from a dime but it's still fun.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

salem willows is a good time ; )
chet & natalie!

kephm, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 00:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
LOSERS!!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boston sucks ass!! Taste NYC's capitalism bitches!!!

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 03:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

I KISS YOU!

(and i use my amtrak bonus points to buy tix to boston TO PISS ON FENWAY PARK BOSTON BEYOTCHS!)

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

aw boston is great! i mean, it's cursed, but it's great!!

the yankees are mean bonecrushing robots

geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Whether Boston's classic or dud, it's never hard to remember why people hate Yankees fans.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

the yankees are mean bonecrushing robots

YEA! that is the awesomest comment ever!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

We're not really disproving the "Yankees fans are all assholes" theory here, are we? Anyway, I'm gonna come vomit on Fenway!!!!!!!!!!

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 03:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

yo, this outburst would've been NOTHING compared to the outburst had it been the Phillies that kicked Sox ass. that would've been world war IV!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

yo ally i may have enough amtrak bonus miles to pay for you, tom and others TO GO TO BOSTON AND DESECRATE FENWAY PARK!!

isn't that better than a stupid lobsterita?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

And most Red Sox fans would be doing the same thing if the tables were turned; New Yorkers are just more competent at being assholes.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just don't like Boston! I'm actually a Mets fan!!! You should totally get Tom and his friends to come, they'd really like pissing on Fenway.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 03:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

i was just blasting "takeover" -- SO APPROPRIATE RIGHT NOW!! -- and i swear to god, someone else in my apartment was just blasting "the final countdown" JEL IS GOD EUROPE R GODZZZ OF VICTORY!!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

PEDRO YER SHIT IS GARBAGE!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

When the Yankees wer catching up, I was doing my Happy Wade Robson dance all around the living room. HOORAY BASEBALL WILL NOT FUCK UP MY SINGING COMMUTE FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Um, ah, um. I've got it "Wait til next year!" Yeah, thats it.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 12:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are we still on for this Boston trip or what? We should make a FAP of it.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 13:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like Fenway. Sox Suxors, but Fenway is charming

ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Now that all these weddings are over with I'm down for FAPS. Hey Dan are you doing the holiday singing thing again this year? When do tix start going on sale for that.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

the let's go to boston and piss on fenway park FAP?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

har har. sure but while your pissing watch out for the swift kick to the nuts from me. Damn yankees. ;)

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

I am doing the holiday singing thing again but because I'm crap I don't remember which dates I'm singing. Tix go on sale last week of October; I want to say the 27th but check http://www.bso.org to be sure.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

in visiting Boston, we'd have all the grace charm and respect of the Goths and the Vandals invading Rome!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

This reminds me of the "Cradle of Filth visit the Vatican" story.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dude, seriously, let's go to Boston. Mid-November?

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 15:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

This reminds me of the "Cradle of Filth visit the Vatican" story.

YES!

sure, i'm up for a boston visit. my schedule's amenable these days. i also wanna go to cambridge and piss on harvard law school!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Let's beat the shit out of some Ivy Leaguers!!!

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 15:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

actually, if this thing can wait till December ... 'cause the bills play the patriots on 12/27.

but november's cool, too!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'll probably be out of town that week!! Argh.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 16:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

mid-November is ok, then (other peoples' schedules pending of course)

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, Dan was right -- I was much more charitable in my assessment of the area when visiting in the summer. Usually I would say Boston is full of pretentious, racist assholes and Fenway is an overrated dump. But I was tooling around the North Shore at that time, not driving through downtown Boston, which is perpetually under construction and the signs say "DETOUR: bridge" when they mean "tunnel" and vice versa. David Raposa and Chris V., you know I love you guys, but in the main, Boston has the most fickle, bitter, fair-weather sports fans in America and I cannot stand them.

Anyway, the following comment of Tad's has just come to my attention:

Another plus for the Phillies and the Orioles: when their ballparks get run-down and go to seed, they tear them down and build new ones. (same criticism goes for the Cubs, too)

??????

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Even if we had won the game I guarantee we would have found something to complain about. Its our nature. THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE MISERABLE.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Felicity, I think he wants to go piss on Wrigley next, basically.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 16:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

all right, i've not been to wrigley stadium myself so maybe lumping them in with fenway was presumptuous. (the old comiskey park, on the other hand).

anyway, i've gotten wiser since i posted that comment and the Vet (dump that it is) is now slated to be torn down ... so i can see why bosox fans would be attached to Fenway.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

i will gladly pee on U. Chicago, though -- evil bastids that gave the world Milton Friedman and John Ashcroft!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

I hate Fenway. Yeah its a classic ballpark, but its a filthy uncomfortable dump.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

then my point still stands (at least wr2 fenway).

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

I still don't understand why Tad wants to tear down Wrigley Field. Oriole Park or Camden Yards or Cal Ripken Jr. Shrine or whatever it's called is modeled on Wrigley. It's the best place in the whole world!

(x-post ha ha, Tad in Momus "haven't seen it, actually" moment :) )

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, but i admit when i am wrong ... unlike mr. currie (sometimes!)

still, the orioles and the phillies got outta their respective dumps relatively quickly. what's the red sox's excuse? it isn't as if they don't have the money, you know!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

The bitter, terrible, fairweather fans like the fucking place.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tep you are not a fan, so how would you know? Anyway, there was a proposal to tear down Fenway and rebuild it exactly, complete with the wacked-out seat angles but I think that went away.

Tad, you should go to Wrigley! There are many cute things about Wrigley Field but one of them is that the scoreboards on the concourse are like old signs you would find at a Midwestern high school gym -- they just say "Cubs" and "Visitors" and have the little light bulbs in the shapes of "8"s from which you can make any number.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

felicity -- one day i'd like to see wrigley, i think! but boston's cheaper & easier to get to, via amtrak anyway.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tep, I'm really glad you have NOTHING ELSE TO DO AT ALL right now than come on every thread with a baseball discussion and piss all over people.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 17:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ally, I backed you on the payroll thing, for Pete's sake. I'm not pissing all over people. I find the "the team who lost fucking sucks, ha ha, they deserved it!" thing incredibly annoying (and the "the team who won fucking sucks, ha ha, fucking bastards!" thing is just as annoying), and the more gleeful and ridiculous it is, the more annoying it is.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

yo, i just realized something. other ILXors said that atlanta braves are assholes. WELL, GUESS WHAT CITY THE BRAVES ORIGINALLY CAME FROM?!?

i rest my case.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

ATTENTION EVERYONE: PLEASE STOP ANNOYING TEP

Thanks.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

Calling all of the Boston fans dickheads is obv. very different from this though??

(xpost: "other ILXors"=me!! I more object to Ted Turner and that damn Tomahawk chop thing than anything else though)

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 17:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

but tep, surely you understand the yankees-red sox rivalry yes? i mean, it isn't as if the yankees beat the angels (who no-one gives a shit about and there's no history b/w the yanks and the angels).

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Calling all of the Boston fans dickheads is obv. very different from this though??

It comes off pretty much the same to me -- it's all part of the silly "hate the other team" crap that comes along as baggage.

but tep, surely you understand the yankees-red sox rivalry yes?

Obviously, but what's that to do with anything? I don't hate the Yankees for winning.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think the difference is that I think this thread has come off mostly good natured and obviously not entirely serious whereas your post sounded just mean.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 17:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't seeing good-naturedness, to be honest, but which post of mine sounded mean?

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

All of them. You're like Sports Grinch McGrinch.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I am not, that's just silly.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

so does my brother, a lifelong redsox fan, who is terminally ill and prolly wont see another year, does he count as one of the big fucking loser-boston fans?
just wondering...

half jack, Friday, 17 October 2003 17:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

well, saying that i'm gonna piss on fenway park and harvard law school is kinda over-the-top and not to be taken seriously -- kinda like the Anal C**t songlist (hey, they're from the Boston metro area!), you could get offended but then the joke's on you so why bother?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tad, I don't have to be offended to find something annoying. It's not like I think you're actually going to piss on Fenway .. well, maybe more to the point, it's not like I'd be horrified if you did (you wouldn't be the first, and you wouldn't make me watch).

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

No of course not, that's not what people are saying here.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tep may I recommend you don't read sports threads if they are so annoying to you? I think you actually enjoy being annoyed, to tell the truth.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

You guys are all goofy in the head.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

yo NA yankees fans don't like the orioles, either!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also I just noticed this isn't really a sports thread.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

;-p

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

You don't know me very well, felicity.

It's not like the entirety of every sports thread annoys me, for Heaven's sake. I'm talking about one specific type of thing, which is generally a minority of posts. (At least on the baseball threads, those're usually the only ones I read.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

I know you well enough to understand from your posts that you are disgruntled by the fact that some people have been enjoying the baseball playoffs by exchanging good-natured posts and I am wondering what constructive mode of behavior modification you propose we adopt?

It is acknowledged from the MLB Playoff thread that you dislike baseball fans and that you don't care to explain why, all right! We got it the first time, no need to repeat yourself. Yes I know you a writer/artist from New Orleans with a tatoo or whatever, I've been reading these boards a while, it's not a wholesale indictment of you.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Okay, if I implied anything mean about felicity, I take it back, cause I like that quick little sum-up of me :)

Not all baseball fans -- baseball fans as a group. Like Ally said on one of the threads, that one or this one, fans tend to be dicks in specific ways. It isn't limited to Yankees fans, or Red Sox fans, or etc. And those ways are aggravating.

I haven't been seeing the good-naturedness people are now mentioning. Maybe it's there and I'm missing it. Mr Noodles or Diamond's post? If that's good-natured, I just don't speak Fan very well, then.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

ha ha Tep :)

That's okay, it's a unique culture, I think. It's just like a role the sports fan plays. "The curmudgeon" is a popular role, as is "the asshole", the "sore loser", and the "person who takes it all too seriously." It's like you can criticize your own family but no one else is allowed to.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 17:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

the problem with rooting for the redsox is boston's full of assholes
-- cinniblount (littlejohnnyjewe...), October 16th, 2003.

yeah, this is oozing with good natured feelings, sure.

half jack, Friday, 17 October 2003 18:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not reading any of the Red Sox forums etc. since the game, because the worst of what's there (from the Red Sox fans themselves, is my point) is much, much more annoying than anything I've seen on ILE. Theo Epstein should be dragged through the streets and strung up, Nomar should be eviscerated, etc., etc. My family have been Red Sox fans since before they were called the Red Sox, but maybe having a Southerner for a father contributed to my not being raised with that aspect of Fenway culture.

If it's just some culture thing I can't get, maybe it's best to leave it at that, provided no one uses it as an excuse to post "Tep is a strategically-placed doodyhead!" and then claim it's part of Tigers fandom.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 18:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Um, so Boston then.

Ned at Martin's place (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 18 October 2003 10:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

what geeta said
im done playing defense

kephm, Saturday, 18 October 2003 13:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Gotta love ILX objectivity, as long as the place ain't Boston.

Usually I would say Boston is full of pretentious, racist assholes and Fenway is an overrated dump.

So, avoid Boston unless I was wearing a Haz-mat suit. Gotcha.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Saturday, 18 October 2003 16:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

What about Boston?

adaml (adaml), Saturday, 18 October 2003 16:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

Some points:

1. The roads in Boston are put together much worse than even DC or suburban Maryland.

2. Nashville has more fun stuff to do than Boston even if you HATE country music, and better food.

3. The only thing I like about Boston, in fact, is Newbury Comics or whatever that place is, which is like a bigger, nicer Kim's.

4. Unfortunately, Kim's St. Marks is surrounded by similar shops full of cool shit whereas Newbury is more like a single shining light in the pitch blackness of bad cafés and hahvud yahd crappity crap crap.

5. Don't EVEN call that thing a subway system. Dear LORD. What is this? An IDM album cover? ARRGGGH.

6. actually, if this thing can wait till December ... 'cause the bills play the patriots on 12/27.

ahem WHO IN THE JESUSFUCKERS would want to spend even PART of their holiday season in BOSTON? Seriously though if you're that much of a Bills fan you deserve whatever you get I suppose. URGHK.

TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2003 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't EVEN call that thing a subway system. Dear LORD. What is this? An IDM album cover? ARRGGGH.

i don't wanna know what tom thinks of philly's subway system, then.

and the jets already played the patriots in NE so that trip's out.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Saturday, 18 October 2003 17:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

Admittedly by spending part of my youth in the DC area and now living here I have been a bit spoiled on the subway front.

TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2003 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

ARE WE GOING TO BOSTON OR WHAT FUCKFACES ENOUGH OF THIS FIGHTING AND GIVE ME AN ANSWER I WANT TO WASTE MY HOTEL STAYS WHILE THEY ARE STILL $70 AND I'M QUITTING TRES SOON SO SHUT UP ABOUT TEP'S BASEBALL HATE AND ANSWER ME JESUS CHRIST.

Felicity should come!!

Ally-zay, Saturday, 18 October 2003 18:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

The new ritz people,come the fuck on. DAN PERRY TO THREAD: remember the ashtrays? Holy shit. I promise I won't set anyone on fire this time.

Ally-zay, Saturday, 18 October 2003 18:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'm sure that i can do it in mid-November. if that's a good enough answer?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Saturday, 18 October 2003 18:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

Come to Boston and entertain me!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 18 October 2003 19:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

The roads in Boston are put together much worse than even DC or suburban Maryland.

I didn't think such a thing possible til I got lost driving in Boston.. in 90-degree weather.. no air conditioning.. no SIGNS for the goddamn detours and is there NO END to the big dig or what? ARGH. And I LIKE driving in DC.

Also, why does everyone in Boston wear ribbed sweaters at all times? Explain!

I guess I don't mind Red Sox fans though (especially in RI). I grew up liking the Orioles but they don't lose in an epic way, so it's less fun. Camden Yards is a nice ballpark but seems oddly yuppified for Baltimore. I kinda liked the old Memorial Stadium..

daria g (daria g), Sunday, 19 October 2003 16:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm trying to convince Wheeler to come. I'm thinking the weekend of the 15th would be best. Thoughts?

Allyzay, Monday, 20 October 2003 18:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with ribbed sweaters?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Someone just pointed out to me that semi-quitting smoking could very well result in my typing "meanly" without feeling mean, so belatedly -- sorry if anything came off that way. Haven't got any secret plans to kill anyone's pets or anything.

I just sent my mother her Christmas present early: a copy of the New York Post misprint where the Red Sox won game 7 :)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

the weekend of the 15th is fine by me. please keep me in the loop ... i will show up for this thing!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah how much does a pack of smokes cost in boston?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

For you, your life's blood spilled out on the street, I'm guessing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

well, i decided not to piss on fenway park and harvard law only because tep was so mean. now, i dunno about that!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

No no, I'm not mean, I'll even hold it for you!

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

(that's a good thing)

(no it isn't)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

I love how we're all in agreement. So it's decided: Boston sucks, and we should go there.

It does sound like a lot of fun, maybe it will work.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 01:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

No no, I'm not mean, I'll even hold it for you!

this is why i don't normally go to these things ... 'cause ILX has so many homos!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 01:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

On a Boston thread, the word you want is queeahs.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 01:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with ribbed sweaters?

I'm kinda trying to figure that out myself.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 01:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

Nothing, clearly that's mentalism. Boston could use way more ribbed sweaters and a lot less Ben Affleck.

Felicity, we are going to try to invade and force Boston to unsuck, this is why you should be in on this.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 01:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

I would like to take the Chinatown bus with Geeta.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 01:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

Mary! You will be coming too?? This will be best holiday ever.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 02:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

BOSTON U HAVE NO CHANCE

EAT DICK FAGTOGS

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 02:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

If that is not the first thing to come out of your mouth when I introduce you to Dan Perry, you are seriously not getting laid that night.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 03:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

bah the weekend of nov 15 is my birthday! nyc fap d00dz!! put off the boston mentalism for another week (dan perry u shd come to nyc the weekend of the 15th!)

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 06:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ugh, I'm not even going to chime in on this thread in regards to Boston anymore. I like it, some of you don't. Thats your opinion and I'm fine with it. Anyways, are we talking December or November?

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh and a pack of smokes costs around $5.50-$6.00 in Boston. $5 in Worcester. Which is the shithole of Massachusetts. And I'm proud to live here.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jesus, did they up the tax again? It was high when I lived there, but not that high; it had just gotten to the "at this price, I may as well just buy imports" mark of $3.75 - $4.00.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yup they upped it and they pulled a NY and stopped all smoking in bars and restaurants.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's wrong is those fitted, turtleneck sweaters usually on sale at Banana Republic or something that are super unflattering especially on guys.

example #1


uh, no.

daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

A) Ribbed turtlenecks look good on me.
B) However ribbed turtlenecks as stated above do kind of make men look like wankers.

Chris V.: November. The problem with the weekend after the 15th is doesn't that cut it close to holidays? Are people around?

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Fagtogs! I am in hysterics.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

I prefer wool turtleneck sweaters, much less titty on men. I'm around both weekends. The weekend of Thanksgiving I am not.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

OK so then it's all good. That was my big worry but now I haven't a big worry. Boston the later weekend it is. Geeta will you come to Boston with us too??? Are you serious about the no smoking, Chris?

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that happened a couple of months ago and recently extended to Cambridge. I think you can still smoke indoors in Somerville, though.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

yup. Dead serious, have to go outside now. Sucks ass. Although worcester isn't smoke free yet, but I don't think anyone wants to come here. so the weekend of the 21-22. According to the newspaper this morning, they are trying to make the whole state smoke free.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dan, any suggestions of where to go?

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

The only positive to Boston is the fact that I thought you could still smoke there! It truly IS the devil's city.

Seriously though, I'll go to Worcester just so I don't have to stand outside in late November in New England for fuck's sake. Oh well. I'll still come, I'll just complain a lot. I hope you like whining!!!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

I love whining...

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm completely out of touch with places to go because I've been really, really broke for about a year what with putting someone through grad school. One place that is usually good as far as being someplace a large number of people can comfortably invade is Flash's cocktails on Columbus St (aka the place I took Ally, Otis and the gang the last time they were in town); it's kind of small but for some reason there's usually tons of seating, plus it's close to the Ritz.

I would suggest The Pour House but it's always packed. There's also a Good Life back in the Financial District somewhere but I can never remember where it is. Oh, and there's another pub-type place that is around the corner from Jose McIntyre's (I will never ever EVER take anyone to Jose Macs so don't even ask about it) which doesn't lend itself to seating a large party but is pretty cheap from what I remember. Apparently celebrities show up at The Rack a lot, so if people want to go chuckle at Yuppie Hell I'd suggest there.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

(Haha "I have no idea of where to go, but we could try place A or place B or place C, place D sucks, maybe place E if you get desperate, etc etc etc...")

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

$5-$6? no smoking in bars?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

The good life is fun. I hate the Rack with a passion and its so expensive. I think the name of the bar across from Jose's is Coogans Bluff. Its alright, and cheap. I've gotten thrown out of there for jumping on stage and stealing the mic from a dude and demanding the audience sing "More than a Feeling".

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was at T's pub in brighton two weeks ago and there was plenty of space. Although its right next to the Paradise and sort of away from everything. Plus they had Bud Light 20 oz drafts for $2.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Haha I remember Flash's. We ended up moving shop from there though, much to our detriment/eternal gratitude when the next bar confiscated O-town's ID. "What's your zip code?" "Uh, I don't know."

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought the only reason we left was because we wanted to dance?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

No no that is EXACTLY why we left, it just turned into a total disaster which is completely amusing to me. We didn't leave because of anything Flash's did, I'm sorry if I implied that. We ended up in that big enormous place with the waitress that looked like Denise Richards, but I don't remember what that was. It was huge though!!

I think a place we might be able to dance would be good but nothing too expensive...

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

fear my moves.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jillian's! That's a great place for finding someplace to sit, plus they've got Atlas downstairs which we could conceivably go to for our dancing needs.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

There is also Bills which is next door to Jillians. And you can all piss on Fenway which is directly across the street.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Sold.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

I am so craving Durgin Park right now.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

There is a plethora of bars near Durgin Park as well. There is also Jake Ivorys next to Jillians as well, if anyone feels like being Billy Joel for the night.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'll add an extra as well, as well.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh and i am def making an appearance in NY within the next two months as a friend of mine who lives in Brooklyn is back from his year long film shoot and he has invited me to visit. Yay.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

dude, i'll totally come to boston with you guys, as long as it's not the weekend of the 15th!

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

OK it's gonna be the weekend afterwards so you are coming!! This is so exciting! Except when I get there I'll be pissed off with the whole thing. The train up there is quite expensive?

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's all about the bus!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dans right I think you can go round trip on a bus for $60.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

$128 round trip by train.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

That's not so bad.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

$40 round trip by bus with 7 day advance purchase $50 without and it takes about the same amount of time by bus than by train.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't personally mind the bus. I know of other people who have issue.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

+++++++++Some points:
1. The roads in Boston are put together much worse than even DC or suburban Maryland.
2. Nashville has more fun stuff to do than Boston even if you HATE country music, and better food.
3. The only thing I like about Boston, in fact, is Newbury Comics or whatever that place is, which is like a bigger, nicer Kim's.
4. Unfortunately, Kim's St. Marks is surrounded by similar shops full of cool shit whereas Newbury is more like a single shining light in the pitch blackness of bad cafés and hahvud yahd crappity crap crap.
5. Don't EVEN call that thing a subway system. Dear LORD. What is this? An IDM album cover? ARRGGGH.
6. actually, if this thing can wait till December ... 'cause the bills play the patriots on 12/27.
ahem WHO IN THE JESUSFUCKERS would want to spend even PART of their holiday season in BOSTON? Seriously though if you're that much of a Bills fan you deserve whatever you get I suppose. URGHK.
-- TOMBOT (arrg...), October 18th, 2003+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

yes -the roads are set up bad and the subway shuts down at 1am. Correct.
But….
THE REST OF YOUR POST READS LIKE A DUMB MOTHERFooCKER REDNECK
Newbury vs KIMS??? What?huh? - Newbury the only place to shop in boston? Um, yeah if you are a stupid a;s tourist with no clue ..oh wait…
Please.
This place is fookin indy bookstore, record store, café heaven. (nyc record shops are more picked thru than boston btw…for the most part)
Also: film archives, weekly kung fu filmings on weds night at allston….moody street in waltham has over 100 different ethnic restaurants.
Middle east nightclub drops the fffing abomb on any DC club. What do you have? The 930club or some something? Tt the bears, the attic, the paradise . and so on and so forth.
And yes, boston is no NYC. Correct. Bloody fffing brilliant. The world isnt flat either. Bears sh*t in the woods aslo.
Sorry but your post was mucho dense…

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Re: above post

Boston 0, Rest of the World 1.

allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Newbury St has the Trident Bookstore and Cafe, which depnding on your mood is either fantastic or fucking horrible.

The real golden stretch is Mass Ave in Cambridge between Central Square and Harvard Square, at least as far as used record store searching goes.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

I despise buses.

Thanks, Dan.

Also I would like to revise my prior post:

BOSNOT U HAVE NO CHANCE

EAT DICK FAGTOGS

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

Middle east nightclub drops the fffing abomb on any DC club.

Also, this isn't true. I've been to four clubs in DC and at least two of them were better than the Middle East. Of course being as we're discussing personal preferences in barhopping and shopping, IT'S ALL PRETTY GODDAMN SUBJECTIVE INNIT. The Middle East is one of the most overrated places I've ever been! Dan Perry OTM about how a lot of these things entirely depend on your mood at that exact moment; the apparent-spirograph-cobblestone-road-system in Boston tends to put me in a mood to hate every single store I've ever set foot in there, for example.

FWIW, Kim's puts me into fits as well. Tourist. Trap. For. Hipsters. But then again I hate indie record stores to begin with so your like supposed indie record store mecca isn't really a pulling point for me to decide to suddenly like Boston, kephm.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also, getting to Moody St. without a car would be an exercise in irritation.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

(I knew I had images turned off for a reason.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

++a lot of these things entirely depend on your mood at that exact moment

yeah, true that. like life itself. yes , it is confusing as hell to get around. I still get confused sometimes when in a car...
ive seen hundreds of good shows at the middle east. its sort of a dive, but some of us don't mind.

i was responding to tombot. he doesnt know what he is talking about.

goto Berks shoes in harvrd square to escape the indyfication

oonas is a good vintage(clothing) shop outside of hrvrd square...



kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's more than a feeling you have for him, Dan.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

He performed for the first time in 25 years last night.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Toscanini's in Harvard & Central Square is my personal pick of the Boston ice cream places.

Also, PHO PASTEUR! (Avoid the evil one in the Theatre District with the radically overpriced menu, though.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

I did buy a nice whore-ish halter top at the Guess? on...Arlington St? Near Arlingston St? Anyway, that was a pleasant shopping experience in Boston. The street looked like a normal street, not like something Q-Bert might try to conquer, and the store was nice and spacious and had better sales than the NYC Guess? stores.

My worst experience in Boston was trying to get to...the Sheraton? I think? My sister was staying there. We could see it but could find no conceivable way via roads, even using our Mapquest directions and a huge atlas map, to actually GET to the Sheraton. It appeared to be dead center in a labrynth. It would've been easier to get out of the car and just walk two miles or whatever to get to it. It was insane! I was certain it was a magic trick?

xpost: ts: "you don't know what you're talking about" vs "you have different expectations for a city than I do". The hysterical "stupid tourists!" approach is just kind of proving the Bostonites as bitter, chip on shoulder defensive assholes stereotype right which is unfortunate.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

cat stevens will have no bickering.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hah felicity you'd love Paris. EVERYONE acts like the waiters at Durgin Park.

You guys should go to Bartley's Burger Cottage!!!! (if it's still as awesome as I remember)

Or Harvard Donut in Central Square)?? BEST FUCKIN MUFFINS EVER

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

ive seen hundreds of good shows at the middle east. its sort of a dive, but some of us don't mind.

It's not my thing; I expected different from what I received and wasn't entirely into the crowd there. Diviness or not had nothing to do with it.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think the Guess? store is actually on Newbury near the corner of Arlington and Newbury (and around the corner from my office).

I haven't been to Bartley's in years, but DAMN their burgers rock. Also, ANNA'S TAQUERIA!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah-pho has the num num bone marrow soups! i wish the o2 bar didnt shut down across form the one in 'the garage'
& tokyo kid.anime shop~ but they may have shut down. there is another one around the corner.
million year picnic /comic shop( find any 'zine)some prefer new england comics

you peeps jsut need to follow around geeta. (from her post way upthread) she knows her stuff.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also, dim sumat ChoW Chow city is U+K.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah! Newbury and Arlington! That's by your office? Sweet! Now I can come stalk you!! Except that would involve going to Boston :( :(

So anyway when we all come to Boston you guys can all chauffer us touristas around and show us all the cool shit while I stand there disgusted by the fact that you boys's idea of "cool shit" is not "shoe store" and then we'll go to good restaurant and then we will get plastered then we will retire to my hotel room and then set fire to the curtains?

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

WOAH the formatting fairy seems to have kicked me in the nuts.

"Also, dim sum at Chow Chow city is U+K."

(Berk's in Harvard Square is an excellent shoe store, by the by.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh no!!!! I just googled Harvard Donut and it's been replaced with a YouKnowExactlyWhatI'mAboutToSay!!!!!! o no!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost: ts: "you don't know what you're talking about" vs "you have different expectations for a city than I do". The hysterical "stupid tourists!" approach is just kind of proving the Bostonites as bitter, chip on shoulder defensive assholes stereotype right which is unfortunate.

Whatever. he doesnt know what he is talking about. who am i talking to here anyways? you are taking what i was saying to him and following it up with what i said to you...

I JUST mentioned Berks two posts ago XPOST
: P


Bsoton is a small city. there is plenty to do. it is not nyc.
seems simple enough.


kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anna's rules. I miss that the most. Chicken Burrito Supreme. oh baby. I like shoes, I have 20 pair. I'm always down for shoe shopping.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dude, I know you mentioned Berk's! I was reiterating!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

kephm's sooooooo boston

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

nashville >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boston (people or city)

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 16:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

hey i was just saying there is plenty to do in boston. tombots points are way off mark. if that makes me = the sterotypical pissed off bostonian then fine.
it is one of the few things on ilx that people seem to feel ok with crapping/pissing all over.

maybe my response to tombot was what you mean by "so boston". but if you have reads any of my other posts then you might know better.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

y'know, if Boston was bigger and cooler and had a history of transcontinental migration based on empire and exploitation, it'd be London! here i've been comparing London to NYC the whole time and it felt all wrong... BOSTON is MUCH closer. the T and the Tube are like kissing cousins.

(ooh I just remembered: Changsho on Mass Ave near Porter Square. They had the coolest matchboxes ever made!!)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

cause you know.."nashville is so fucking rock n roll mang. load up the van, the road calls, boston is full of arseholes and rude fucs" blount in detached cool guy one liner shokah"

yes, there are many preppie yuppie snotty people that are prolly rude to you when you visit. & you hate them. I DO TOO. but there are plenty of artists, writers, songwriters....nice people.

i am an artist, i dont equate my ego with my city. save that for superfans maybe. boston can be mega-rude. so can nyc. any us city i would think.

dont forget , there is more to do in nyc than boston. brilliant!
go bears


kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boston sucks because you closed Harvard Donut.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

disclaimer: there is nothing wrong w/rednecks. i have spent much time out in the hills of vermont, maine, etc in my 86chevy pickup, even lived out there for a few years. i can fish, camp, start a fire, look good in flannel, etc...

xpost: yeah man` twin city donuts is still around

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Blount, don't bother, you're a dense motherfucking redneck too.

Oh xpost, kephm finally figured out just what was so goddamned offensive about his fucking tone, hurrrrrrah.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

kephm's soooooo boston

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

boston suxx btw

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

someday i hope to live in london. i need the right job first

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

load up the van mang, the road calls

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Oh I have no problem with rednecks, they are so quaint and sometimes I drive their 'pick up trucks' and put on their 'beer hats' hahaha rednecks so cute"

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Of course in Maine the rednecks are civilized, not like in that godforesaken shithole Nashville.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

++Oh xpost, kephm finally figured out just what was so goddamned offensive about his fucking tone, hurrrrrrah.

um , yeah- tombot was nothing but charm in his list of points. riiiiiiight. so if you are bostonian you cant get angry? only if you are from DC. i get it.

xpost: ally- i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

in philly, smokes are still $3-$4/pack ($2.50-$3/pack if yer willing to take a half-hour train ride to delaware). and AFAIK, you can still smoke in bars. and philly sports fans would eat boston sports fans for an appetizer -- they booed Santa, you know!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

again with the sports.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:30 (9 years ago) Permalink


whatever. i give up. really.


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I find these criticisms interesting, because so many of them are like...seeing Oxford Street and coming to the conclusion that London sucks, or going to Fifth Avenue and deciding that NYC sucks. Why bother listening to "Jamn 94.5" bullshit commercial radio when there are so many great college radio stations here? Turn that dial leftward! We've got some of the greatest college radio stations in the country--WMBR, WZBC, and WHRB, to name but a few.
First off, I've been living here going on five years now. I've never lived in "Boston" proper--I lived in Cambridge for 4 years (MIT), and now I work on documentary films for WGBH (the Boston PBS affiliate) and live in Somerville. I think in order to love/hate this place fully, you've got to experience all the parts of it.

Of course most of Boston--the rich, snotty parts, like the Back Bay--suck. Avoid them like the plague. Yes, Central Square (which is in Cambridge, not Boston) has become more gentrified..but look beyond Central; explore the outer edges..Jamaica Plain, Brighton, Allston, Somerville. South Boston. The parts of Cambridge that aren't directly on the T but still within walking distance. The parts that are less traveled.

There is beauty here; you just have to find it. And as much as I sometimes think I hate living here, I find myself getting defensive about it. Today in Central Square I ran into a group of kids from Berkeley. They were walking down Mass Ave, and one of them said "Dude, this is nothing like Telegraph." Of course it's not.. keep your alterna-hippies to yourself, I say. Sure, we don't have Amoeba Records, but we do have some fucking good record stores here! I live a stone's throw away from Other Music, Planet Records, Disc Diggers, Twisted Village, and Nuggets, to name but a few of the great independently- minded music shops around here.

So I found myself walking these Berkeley kids around Central Square, pointing at things and saying "See this bank? This used to be an anarchist bookstore. See this Gap and this Starbucks? This block used to be full of great independent coffeehouses." I felt terrible, and cheesy, a back-in-the-day geezer even though I'm in my 20s. But this small-town city is a part of me. Then I pointed them out to some interesting places that they should go. I cheer for the little independents around the city that are still thriving, and support them as much as I can. Central Square still does have things going for it. The Middle East, for one, (with many great & cheap shows this year!), Harvest, 1369 Coffeehouse, etc. I live near Davis Square now, which has got a good amount of independent coffeeshops, bookstores, and bars...good restaurants, and its own modest little art scene that isn't New York in scale but doesn't try to be. Everything here is in miniature, but there's something odd and wonderful about that sometimes.

Sometimes I feel like I'm living on a sinking ship--like this place has had it's day and now it's over. But that's like crying and saying that you'll never listen to an other band after the Pixies broke up, because they were the best band ever. (Mind you, I did this.) You've got to keep looking around for the interesting bits of life. And when I move out of here for good in August for grad school, I think I will miss it sorely, because for as many faults as Cambridge/Somerville/ Boston/etc have, they've still got a lot of good, and a lot that we take for granted.

And hey, if anyone is visiting the Boston area, send me an email and I'd be glad to show you around to all the glorious weird bits that still lie below the surface.

-- geeta (geet...), February 24th, 2002.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

Please tell me in which of his points he directly criticized the people of Boston as being something such as "stuck up New Englanders", "moronic Affleckesque fuckwads", "second-rate jackasses with a chip on their shoulders from being from a shit ass city",* etc. and I will agree with your point. Note how when Chris V. gets pissy and pro-Boston he seems to get along juuuuuuust fine by everyone else on ILX.

Asshole. Writing a nasty post about how someone else is "dense" while calling them a "motherfucking redneck" is just about the stupidest, contradictory thing I've seen anyone do in a long while round here and this place is full of overwrought jackasses (hello GANGS OF ILX) so a winner is YOU.

* lest anyone get confused, I'm not advocating this point of view.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.

he was an ass. i was an ass. the difference being, he doesnt know what he is talking about when he talks of what to do (or not to do) in boston. i might of jumped all over him, but if you read all of the posts about boston, people shit all over this place. and that sort of bums me out.
i picked out tombot cause it was the last offending post on the thread.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

people shit all over this place. and that sort of bums me out.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

shove it buckner

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

People, the Chinatown bus is like $20 or something. Come on... I want to go to the museum...

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

when you visit an outhouse, the most appropriate thing to do is take a shit.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah: tom's comparisons of boston to DC, and my comparisons of boston to philly, are totally appropriate. because even though bostonians may not like to admit it, DC and philly are the caliber of american city to which boston is most appropriately comparable -- not NYC, Chicago or LA. (you could make args. that comparisons to DC [which IS the capital and hence as a default status of being an international city] or philly [which is what, 3 times larger than boston?] are also inapt in that boston is a "big fish, small pond" kinda place. but being a big fish in a small pond makes comparisons to NYC, Chicago or LA even more ludicrous!)

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha Tad I kiss you.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

boston has no history at all. none. it just sort of appeared on the east coast back in 87

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha what the fuck is going on on this thread!?

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have no idea. boston sucks cause everyone says so.
please show them around proper cause ilx is led to think fenway/landsdowne=boston

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

whoever said that Boston doesn't have history?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

show me where someone said nyc is a small pond

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

who said that NYC was "a small pond"? this is the sentence where that came from:

but being a big fish in a small pond makes comparisons to NYC, Chicago or LA even more ludicrous!

the "small pond" therein being Boston, NOT NYC (or Chicago or LA).

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

people shit all over this place. and that sort of makes me happy.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

abort! abort!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha well, i see i was quoted above but note the date on that post -- 2002!

i live in NYC now

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

kephm you prove my point about boston every time you hit submit

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

the pond was a great small club. i dont know why boston even compares. so many qualoity bands are from philly.
boston sucks. go falcons. where is my espn?

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

blount! the man. i love you. kisses.


geezer, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

good job proving boston isn't filled with assholes. kudos on your efforts.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

if kephm's posts are indicative, there must be some real good crack on boston's streets these days.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

tad with the fratboy101 humor. go t another one.. oh wait espn updates!!! hol don

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

I am seriously losing my shit.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

this is all over a guy being offended some comic book store was recommended over another

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

i dont care about one small pond vs the other universe?
dont pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that

oh wait espn updates!!! hol don

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

this is all over a guy being offended some comic book store was recommended over another

i know what the fu....1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?


kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I feel like I'm living on a sinking ship--like this place has had it's day and now it's over. But that's like crying and saying that you'll never listen to an other band after the Pixies broke up, because they were the best band ever. (Mind you, I did this.)


kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

and what other great bands has boston given the world (besides the pixies) ... anal cunt?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

the pixies and modern lovers were great comic books blount. go read them ok

ke[hm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

it's like when the spinach got stuck inside haley joel osment

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

tad in epsn boy non music fan shokah! go lawyers!

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

just to clue you inTHE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK!! NEW EDITION

(you dont look so hott with the ladieeezzz now buubz)

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh the modern lovers were from the seventies -- why not just point to the cars, if yer going that far back?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Two plus years on and my little question that started this thread now truly pays off.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

tad you're arguing with an android

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

stick to the espn ok? thanks i love u kisses

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

an android that's an asshole (ie. an android from boston)(say hi to your bro)

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

um...mission of burma was a good boston band! uh...throwing muses? the girls?

i always thought galaxie 500 were rubbish so i'm not gonna count 'em.

haha this thread hurts my head worse than a hundred dogs (this is my new favorite expression)

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

boston had good bands. had.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

cul de sac<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< NEW KIDS

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh i forgot about mission of burma and galaxie 500 ... ok they were cool i will concede that much.

and oh yeah re seventies stuff -- the modern lovers and the cars were mighty, but gamble/huff stomps 'em brontosaurus-style.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

blount has clarified what is (or was)cool. cause you know, he knows more about the local scene than me. cause i am from philly.

xpost: tad in the struggle to get the laddieez points up on the board. get em tiger. go stripes. Rah

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

ILX and hillbilly horse!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

This thread should be the basis of the script for a "Head" sequel.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

i hope i score at the fap

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've only been here for like a month, but I think Boston's an incredibly beautiful city. I am seriously in awe of the Big Dig, and will happily tolerate any temporary traffic problems it causes. What was the last American public works project in its league? The Panama Canal? It's epochal stuff.

There are certainly some provincial parts of Boston, but they're pretty easy to avoid. There are far fewer assholes here than in San Francisco, at least.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

KRIS! Where are you?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

JP

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

Clearly I am running out of excuses for not going to JP.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

EAT DICK FAGTOGS

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

JPs great. Everything here is run by artsy mothers and right now outside my window a bunch of kids are playing stickball(!) in the street. This doesn't happen in the bay area.

I like Nashville too by the way. I'm not sure why saying a city is less interesting than Nashville would be necessarily damning. Now Cincinatti, or Colorado Springs, or San Jose, on the other hand...

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

hi Kris!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was sorta wondering when you would finally move out there, Kris. And now I know!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have no idea. boston sucks cause everyone says so.

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

My rent is $230.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have seen the light ... boston is the greatest city in the world. NYC, DC, Philly, Nashville, London, Chicago, Tokyo ain't SHIT compared to Beantown! i love the red sox -- i only wish that pedro martinez stomped on don zimmer's head instead of just pushing him down fuck the yankees! i wanna piss on yankees stadium!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

If Pedro had stomped on Don Zimmer's head, I think my reaction would have alternated between horrified laughter and horrified laughter.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, he's kind of right about the New Kids thing though, they were pretty awesome. Also: Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, who the fuck gonna argue with this?

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

dj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince beat stupid marky mark and the funky bunch any day!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

OMG kephm U STOLE MY LIFE!!!!11

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Furthermore, Will Smith completely dissed MIT in favor of his music career!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also: Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, who the fuck gonna argue with this?

Back in 1992, I was at Magic Mountain riding the little gondola tram thing to the other side of the park while below me Marky Mark and crew did various dances. I was bemused.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Were they doing the Electric Slide? PLEASE TELL ME THEY WERE DOING THE ELECTRIC SLIDE!!!!!!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have no idea. boston sucks cause everyone says so.

(why is tad copping my moves with the reverse 180 trick flip?)

xpost: ned-you are lying?

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, my AIM icon is Will Smith. I shit you all not. He's my personal hero. But I note he doesn't sing a song about how Boston is the city where the heat is on and everyone parties til the break of dawn (welcome to Boston--bienvenido a Boston). No, he doesn't. BOSTON IS WORSE THAN MIAMI.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

but marky mark didn't sing about how he thinks that he can beat mike tyson!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

ooh, yeah. Miami's fuckin' TERRIBLE.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

say that when the canes beat the vols 52-3 this year!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

actually, i think that Miami's worse than Boston ... there's one city Boston beats ... but only because of the weather.

and Houston ... Boston is better than Houston. but Houston is just a big smelly oil-dripping swamp, so what's that saying?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boston is better than Hastings, MN.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

can we have a rural hunting /fishing fap?(for real)
i am bored of cities and how big their dicks may or may not be

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boston is better than either Newark, NJ or Newark, DE. except that cigarettes in Newark, DE cost $2 less per pack than they do in Boston. and not only can you smoke in bars in Newark, NJ, they apparently don't care if you drink or smoke crack in the streets over there.

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

pabst vs private stock FITE

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Boston is better than Phoenix, I will give it that, except Phoenix does not have the Red Sox.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh and Blount stop talking in sports riddles you bitch!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

look who's talking bitch!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

Miami sucks dicks, we went down there for the Orange Bowl and got destroyed by Nebraska, that whole trip was for shit except New Year's in the hotel on the athletic department dollar. I think I am the only person who did not throw up & I drank 3 bottles of champagne by myself, good times.

One time we were leaving the hotel and there was crime scene tape all over the lobby! Fantastic! Also all the parking lots were full of dealers in low riders just sitting there.

I boycotted FedEx for a year.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

FUCK YOU BLOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell did you need FedEx for that that boycott was for shit, Tom?

Mariah Carey, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

So wait, the Hurricanes are still allowed to play in the NCAA? I thought they were a pro team now.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

the miami dick suckers!

kephm, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

xpost: ned-you are lying?

Fuck, no.

To Dan: I cannot say for sure, but it is a distinct possibility.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

so are we gonna fap or what? by the way Yarmouth, Nova Scotia is better than all your cities. Eat A Bag O Moose Dicks le fagtogs.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 10:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

sebadoh and dinosaur jr were from phillie

geezer, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

dino jr. - amherst, ma.

a list of boston bands.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oops, wrong link.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

so are we gonna fap or what?

well, I'm definitely gonna go, fwiw.

allyzay, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
You people who don't like Boston? Please,please go the hell back to wherever it is you come from,or find someplace you DO like. I'm sick of the T being crowded by all the NY BU students who complain about everything. Hello? Go to Columbia,or wherever. It's too crowded here now,so that would make everybody happier,especially me. Nobody has to stay here...why live in such misery? Those of us who belong here like it,and know the places to go. It's not for everybody,but it suits me just fine.
Peace

Siobhan O'Neill, Monday, 10 November 2003 22:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Warm, welcoming Boston residents, we love you so.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 November 2003 23:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

my two pennoth.

i've never lingered in boston for more than three days at a time, so i don't think i'm qualified to say that it's a wondrous or horrendous place. or a wax-wane twixt-tween mélange of the two.

i can say that, thus far in my lil' lilypad life, boston is the only city in which a cab driver and a waitress succeeded in making me cry.
then again, i was rather emotionally unstable at the time of my visit.
moreso than usual.

at any rate, i've no desire to return to boston.
i found it to be a doomgloomy place.

a sleepyshy speck o' sillysnow, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 00:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

So is this FAP on or what for the 21st?

Chris Hungus (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

I did go to Columbia, you fucktard! Fuck your "UMass"!!! Haha!

I think it's still on?? I have to find out some stuff first. This is probably gonna be a last minute decision :/

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 14:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

If I still have money, I will be there.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 14:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

cool. even if you don't have money dan, i'll gladly buy you a drink or two.

Chris Hungus (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 14:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

either this or geetafap ... i can't do both

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

either one, i will do my darndest to bring the patrick swayze baby!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

U Mass -- many moons ago, when i was a high-school senior, U Mass Amherst offered me a full ride scholarship and a place in their honors program had i gone. which shows what idjits they are, offering a dumb-ass like myself such a deal! (my dumb-assedness adequately demonstrated by turning down said deal to go to rutgers, who paid for nothing!)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

A DOOMGLOOMY PLACE !!!!!

kephm, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

can you feel the flange?

kephm, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

UMass Amherst is for suckas.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

i agree ... i wanted to go to Amherst College, but i was too stupid to get in!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm working at getting a reservation right now for one of the Boston hotels. I think Millar and I will be in appearance. BUT it'd have to be on the 22nd (Saturday) cos there's pretty much no way he could make it up here/I can get out of work/we can make it up there in time for a reasonable get together (considering Boston closes much earlier than NYC does and we'd have to find hotel/check in/bbq sauce/etc), unless we are being invited to an all-nite HOUSE PARTY AT DAN'S!!! So Saturday the 22nd, anyone? Cos it's like a done deal, we're in.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

RAWK.

I don't think we have any BBQ sauce, tho.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

That's what room service is for!!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is it wrong I'm sitting here laughing now?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought that "sitting around laughing for no reason" was your normal demeanor, Ned.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

yes I was hoping for the 22nd. Cuz, Im an old fart and in bed at 9pm on Fridays. Damn, I'd have a house party at my house but captain grumpy in the condo underneath me won't have "loud music cheering at all hours" anymore.

And I have some free bbq sauce i can offer you. But there is a catch...its involves peppercorns.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

The cruelest catch of all!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought that "sitting around laughing for no reason" was your normal demeanor, Ned.

This is true, actually.

The cruelest catch of all!

Just be cautious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

and Al B.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I have that problem in my apartment too, Chris. I once got accused of having an orgy when in actuality we were screaming at someone to stop eating all our pizza and doing elaborate dance routines to "Baby One More Time" :/

OK so the 22nd, now you Bostonites pick a place to go.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

well, now where are we going to have this thing? preferrably somewhere you can hear each other talk and swear.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also there should be dancing involved!!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Well me screaming at the top of my lungs "I'm Cat Stevens mother fucker" out the window at 3am doesn't help the cause.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ally, where will you be staying. I'm trying to think of places within walking...cab distance. Cuz, the T sucks.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Staying at the Ritz = Back Bay/The Alley?

Dan's shortlist:

Flash's (where we started out last time)
The Rattlesnake (aka Yuppie meat-market, but cheap beer for the neighborhood)
Club Cafe ("I WANNA TAKE TO YOU TO THE GAY BAR!" plus they have dancing)
Jillian's (where we ended up last time; not walking distance, I know)

There are also a bunch of places in the Financial District but be warned that if Jose McIntyre's comes up I may cry like a little baby.

If Cambridge is an option, there's also The Druid, The Field, Miracle of Science, The Plough and Stars, The Middle East, John Harvard's, and Phoenix Landing.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rattlesnake doesn't exist anymore...its now "George". But I think they are reopening it above George. That place across from Jose Macs is ok. I can't think of the name again. Now I need to convince my friend to come, so I have a place to pass out.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's already open, I work across the street from it!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

oops.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was just at George two weeks ago and didn't even notice.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

There are two Ritzes and also the Phillips Club. I don't know at this point which I'm staying in, the girl who does reservations is working on it to see which one has best availability (=least amount of $$$$). But they're all pretty near each other? The addresses:

3 Avery St
10 Avery St
15 Arlington St

One of those three addresses. The Avery St ones are the nicer (read: newer) ones so hopefully there!!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ain't nothin wrong with the Arlington one....cripes.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

There will be on the 23rdWell I've already stayed there but not the other two, that's all I'm sayin'.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh my god Jillians is so AWFUL I was there the other day and it was all videogames and prizes and goofy freshmen. It was like Chuck E. Cheese with overpriced beer,

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 02:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Go to Columbia,or wherever.

Great is the truth and it prevails

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 02:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

It was like Chuck E. Cheese with overpriced beer

THAT DECIDES IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

no wonder you hate on boston (jillians=boooooooring)

kephm, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

although they do have Blackjack for prizes, not money sadly. And im the muther fuckin blackjack p-i-m-p.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yes, but in comparison to actually spending time in proper Boston attractions, Jillian's is pretty fucking ace, son.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Q: What makes a bar interesting?

A: THE PEOPLE YOU GO WITH. There is nothing inherently interesting about a place that sells alcohol.

Although now I'm trying to think of karaoke places around town.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'm dying to do "Don't Fear The Reaper"

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jake Ivorys is downstairs from Jillians, if anyones down for a piano bar. um, yeah.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

Can I sit on the piano in a sparkly dress?

re: bars being boring that is soooo OTM and going to a bar for the "atmosphere" and not the people you are going with is horrifying and something that sometimes annoys me about the NYC FAP threads (but don't tell them)

Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't think thats a problem. I may do it.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

have fun people -what is a proper boston attraction anyways? burial grounds, statues?

kephm, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

old ironsides!


if boston gets a-rod I'm totally going bosox

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

i got a rod all the time.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

last i checked old ironsides didnt serve beer, but that was a long time ago

kephm, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

re: bars being boring that is soooo OTM and going to a bar for the "atmosphere" and not the people you are going with is horrifying and something that sometimes annoys me about the NYC FAP threads (but don't tell them)

When the people you are purportedly going to meet are outside smoking the whole time it helps to have a little atmosphere to distract yourself from the fact that your friends like tobacco more than they like you, but don't tell.

I really want to go to Boston. Is Felicity coming?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha that's not about you Mary!! (it's about Phil but don't tell)

You should come with. I don't know who else is going but I'm sure something can be worked out for everyone who wants to go? Didn't geeta say she wanted to come?

Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oops, than I, er, take back about what I said about you guys smoking!

Can someone come to Boston as my date, please? Carey will be playing tennis with Felicity in England.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jillian's still has some of the best bloody marys and martinis I've had. They also have bowling and DDR and lots of other dumb things to distract you while you drink and be loud. The hot wings aren't bad either.

The only problem with Jillian's is the crowd, but considering some of the places we go in NYC and the places I've been known to frequent in the DC and Baltimore area I don't think I have any serious reason to complain.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also NO KARAOKE BOO HISS

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

WAIT!!!!! I just remembered there's a karaoke spot in Kenmore (aka 7 min walk from Jillian's)! I SENSE A PLAN.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

We can just make our own damned karaoke, what's stopping us from singing like lunatics?!?!?!?!?! I will not go within 5 feet of DDR though, I'm sorry.

Mary, isn't felicity back by then though? She MUST want to come???

Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

Felicity is back NOW!!! Whether she wants to come or not, is a different story. I will begin grilling her.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Medium-well Felicity FAP

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

I fully plan on sleeping in my car.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Thursday, 13 November 2003 12:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

too bad no one is here for this weekend. you could go support my friends gf's project. Pretty cool.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Thursday, 13 November 2003 14:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

eh.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Monday, 17 November 2003 16:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
A DOOMGLOOMY PLACE !!!!!

kephm, Friday, 12 December 2003 19:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC , cause Dan Perry is the POPE

kephm, Friday, 12 December 2003 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

a singing pope

kephm, Friday, 12 December 2003 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

the nastiest patriots fan ain't shit compared to the nicest iggles fan

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 13 December 2003 00:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

and USC's problems are because PETE CARROLL (former LOSER patriots coach) is their head coach!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 13 December 2003 00:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

and this was rilly amusing ... when everyone says yer city sucks, talk about its great medical centers?

Oh and as JP wrote...we have the best medical centers in the world, leading medical research, and we are improving Boston to beeven greater, every day. I have been around the world, and nothing ever compares, to coming home to Boston. And it probably never will.
-- Cass (thecassmasst...), November 24th, 2002.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 13 December 2003 00:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

boston rules.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Saturday, 13 December 2003 00:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

WE HAVE THE DAN PERRY & HE IS A TELEVISION STAR.

BOSTON IS A DOOMGLOOMY PLACE

EISBAR, DO YOU ENJOY WEEN?

kephm, Saturday, 13 December 2003 03:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

yes. but they aren't from boston now are they?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 13 December 2003 03:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

what are you anyway, an online Roxbury Brother or something?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 13 December 2003 03:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

no way man. and i am from west of boston, last stop on the commuter rail. fancy that~suburb sh*t. of course, ive spent 1/2 my life roaming the streets of boston and my roots are there & elsewhere & im rambling and turning this into AIM and f that.


/WEENNNERZ ROCks, you seem to be a bit obsessed with slamming on the place and its prolly all in my head & i dont really care but since im on this ILX thing anyways

kephm, Saturday, 13 December 2003 03:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
REVIVE (no real reason why the fuck not?)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

polluted filth-bag collection of drunks

I sometimes think this potential choice of mine must be true, but that is a bias.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

i thought this was a thread about the band boston.

i'm sad that it's not.

they rock the universe.

the angry cowboy (dick), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

I hate Boston. I've got a sticker on my record player that says "Keep Boston Out of Providence." My friend Ren had them printed up a while back--kids from Boston who go to shows in Providence are assholes.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
Can anyone recommend some cheap, nice hotels in Boston, preferably near the Orpheum Theater and/or the Chinatown bus drop-off/Greyhound depot?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 07:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

As far as I know the entire concept of a nice cheap Boston hotel is an oxymoron. In general, if you want to go below $100 you have to stay a good 15 miles outside of the city.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

morrissey stays at the ritz

buckminster hotel is your best bet, maybe? dan is right, even the super8 in watertown is $110.

kephm, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

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kephm, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

whoops, the copy and paste was only supposed to start at 645 Beacon Street

oh yeah, that area can be a mess if the red sox are playing

kephm, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

You can search a whole bunch of the online sites if you use Sidestep (http://www.sidestep.com) but really, within the area you specified you're going to be lucky to find anything less that $170. (The Buckminster is probably your best bet but it's over in the Fenway area, which isn't really far from Beacon Hill/Chinatown/The Financial District but is far enough that walking would be a pain and a cab ride would be irritating, plus what kephm said about Red Sox fans.)

You can also try this link: http://www.accomline.com/hotels.reservations/Boston.htm

They're listing a room at the Park Plaza for $131 which is kind of unbelievable to me.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

(haha I clicked through on their Park Plaza link and it's a classic bait-and-switch; "Oh, did we say $131? We really meant $229.")

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

Thank you, Bostonians! Would staying at a freaky student club in Cambridge be weird?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

perhaps, they might drag you down to the goth club or run tests on you

kephm, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

Depends on the club, really (is it a Harvard or MIT thing, or a Boston school with some Cambridge real estate?)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

I can't check my Lonely Planet because I left it at home, but they were like some converted women's club and one other club-type thing, neither specifically Harvard/MIT related I don't think.

But, I just called Buckminster Filler and they have a room for me for $89, thankfully. What is fun to do around the BF, besides catching a cab to the Ritz?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 14:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

You are a block away from Landsdowne St, which is one of the main club areas in town and also where Fenway Park is. At the far end of Landsdowne St is a Jillian's with a surprisingly cheap bowling alley on the third floor. If you go down Landsdowne and turn right instead of left when you get to the end and follow that street as it curves around to the left, you'll end up on Boylston just outside of a gay dance club and a restaurant that does salsa dancing. If you go up Brookline Ave you'll hit the Fenway movie theatre (and its attendant mall in case you need to pick up random stuff) and a whole bunch of restaurants, including a reasonably-priced rib place called something like Southwest Coyote. There's also a beer pub at the corner of Landsdowne and Brookline that is usually MOBBED with Sox fans. If you head down Beacon you'll hit The Elephant Walk (moderately pricey French-Cambodian) and Sol Azteca (Mexican). If you go down Commonwealth away from the city you'll hit Boston University; if you go towards town you'll hit Mass Ave and be a block down from Newbury Street and the Virgin Megastore, Newbury Comics, JP Licks, and tons and tons of excellent windowshopping.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

(There are a ton of restaurants on Newbury St and on Boylston St, BTW, plus you can take the green line from Kenmore to Arlington to get to The Ritz.)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to be in Boston (well, Cambridge) for a week or so at the end of October. I'm starting to get really excited about it; having been away for two years, and just being on a flying visit, will make me see all the good things and avoid the boredom that set in when I spent three months there. I hope.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

Stay at Chateau Perry

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

walk over to mass ave and walk across the bridge to cambridge. it's a lovely stroll, esp. at night.

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kephm, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

(I would offer but I would have to check with my wife first and right now she is in full-bore stress mode over an upcoming recital and I think avoiding adding to that stress by asking if someone she doesn't know at all can stay with us at some unspecified time in the future might be the move I should be making here. Also we don't live near the area you're interested in.)

(xpost kephm OTM: the Cambridge side of the Charles has much better scenery; it's much nicer to look at the Boston skyline than it is to look at MIT.)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Thanks again, this is excellent info. The Buckminster seems like it's in a great location.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

ITs in a great location if you can stand a zillion BU students bumping into you.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

The BU/Fenway/Landsdowne convergence can tend towards the annoying but otherwise it is a good location.

Chris, what's the name of that bar we went to after Jillian's? The Cask and Flagon?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yup the Cask, thankfully the Sox aren't home this weekend so it should be a somewhat civilized place. Granted the DJ had no clue who Erik B was.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

Landsdowne St is awful. I learned to hate BU students during my year in Boston.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think mary has the smarts to stay away from landsdowne.

kephm, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't have any Boston-related smarts! My goals are to make it to the Museum of Fine Arts and the Harvard campus. What is the fanciest shmanciest department store? That is probably my best bet for a Moz sighting.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

There's a Nieman-Marcus at Copley Place and a Saks in Prudential Centre (both shopping areas are conveniently connected by a skyway).

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

well i hope you know enough to stay away from sports bars. (landsdowne street UGH)

MOFA is easy to get to. just watch it on the orange line, tough neighborhoods just one stop over. are you going to see the DECO show ?

oh and if you pull into Greyhound/trainn Depot and its dark outside , take a cab to the hotel.

xpost

Neiumun Marcus (sp) in Copley Square maybe? you like an extra 20%

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

you like an extra 20%

WTF, i can type, honest

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'll arrive at Greyhound during the day, but will leave at night, after the concert. Is it really that dangerous? I suppose I could take a cab from the Orpheum?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

If you get out of the concert before 1 AM, I'd just take the T two stops from Park Street to South Station; it will cost you $1.25 and will be better than trying to flag down a cab and then explain that you only want to drive 10 blocks.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

will she need to switch lines? park is green and s. station is red, no?

crime shot up over the summer in the chinatown area. so, if you are not looking to score drugs, and walk confidently you should be good.

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

Park is green AND red.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

we should become tour guides

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

Can I walk from the concert to the depot? Would I want to?

The Art Deco exhibit looks interesting, but is it really $21?!

How is the Peabody Museum?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

we should become tour guides

TOTALLY!

Can I walk from the concert to the depot? Would I want to?

You can. You don't want to (you will have to walk through moderately confusing streets at night in a town you are unfamiliar with, plus some of the streets you'd have to walk down could charitably be described as "sketchy").

The Art Deco exhibit looks interesting, but is it really $21?!

Probably. The MFA likes to ream people.

How is the Peabody Museum?

THE PEABODY IS GODLY. It's also sort of hidden; you have to walk through Harvard Yard towards the Science Center, then walk down Kirkland to Divinity Street and turn left down that to get to it. BUT IT'S WORTH IT.

It's also worth checking out the glass flower exhibit at the Museum of Natural History next door and taking a quick spin through Busch-Reisinger, which is on Kirkland.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

you could walk, the green line is much much easier.

$21? sheesh, i get into the museum for free.

you should check out the Isabella Stewart Museum if you get the chance

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kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

i'd offer to walk you from the show to the greyhound station but i don't know who i am going to the show with.

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

I was going to mention the Gardner but wasn't sure if you were looking for a fine arts museum.

I wish I was still ushering at The Orpheum; I'd see this show for free.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I should prob take the subway, er T, anyway, as my Ctown bus departs at 11.30. Good thing Morrissey likes to get an early night's rest. If he is feeling particularly feisty, there is also a bus at 2.

Kephm, which night are you going to and where are your seats? My seats are somewhere in the orchestra, not really close, but not really far away, either.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 22:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

you know, i am not even sure yet. a friend bought the tickets and we've been phone tagging. i will revive when i find out

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boston was cool in HIGH SCHOOL

Fuck You, Yamantaka Eye (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

so were the boredoms

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

but you were in 5th grade, so you missed out

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

you also missed Vanilla Ice, poor you

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Gardener Musuem is excellent

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yes it is very much so.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yes. Make sure you check out the big Sargent under the stairs to the left of the arboretum... El Jaleo, I think it's called. Properly it's 'magesterial' but effectively it's 'cool as shit.'

{Sand in the [vaseline} on the lens] (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Also there is an 80s/electro-funk/etc night at Great Scott's in Allston on Thursday. If you can resist the allure of going to see SUPERGRASS.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

gardener suggestion thirded (or is that fourthed?)

i worked right around the corner from there

boston is cool. i just don't like bu students, in general. i lived in an apartment building with far too many of them.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

TS: BU students vs BC students

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

i was picked up at a show by a cute BC student, so they have the edge. however i don't really know what they're like in general.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

A DOOM GLOOMY PLACE.

what i love about BC is that it has the best college radio station in the country but NONE of the students ever listen

kephm, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

the girl who picked me up was a deejay, in fact

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

no way. too cool for school.

kephm, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

BC, definately.

{Sand in the [vaseline} on the lens] (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

but MIT chix0rs are tops

{Sand in the [vaseline} on the lens] (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

"what i love about BC is that it has the best college radio station in the country but NONE of the students ever listen"

Better than Emerson radio? Admittedly I haven't heard BC radio.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

oy yeah, easily. 90.3 the Z

emersons station is good too though.

kephm, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yes. Emerson is good too

kephm, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

kephm almost OTM; I'd say Emerson and BC are equivalent but they're both WAY BETTER than any other game in town.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

i beg to differ. ive been listening to wzbc for 20 years. Emerson doesnt have nearly as much variety.

kephm, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm not talking variety, I'm talking about how much I enjoy listening to both.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

ERS has the same shows on daily (weekdays). that's a bit meh

xpost

really? you must listen to much more a cappella , bluegrass and gospel

kephm, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dan is the acapella king of ILM Boston.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boston sucks ass!! Taste NYC's capitalism bitches!!!
-- Ally-zay (sor...), October 17th, 2003.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boston needs a capitalism bitch or two to liven things up.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

moneyonthedancefloor (kephm), Thursday, 30 September 2004 12:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

I liked WZBC too, but I found frustrating how the djs would play 10 songs in a row and then forget to say what they all were in the breaks between songs. Emerson's studios are very nice on the inside - I wouldn't have minded doing shows there. (I am totally biased about boston college radio)

marianna, Thursday, 30 September 2004 12:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

Kephm, if you are in the orchestra, look out for me, and say hello. I will be the one trying to not to subtlely scam my way toward the front. Have you seen any NYC FAP pictures? Well, I don't look like that anymore. I now have a short, boy's haircut.

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 3 October 2004 21:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

BC v. BU students...BC students for playing chicken on Comm. Ave. less often, BU students for cars one will likely forever envy and never own. Ultimately a wash though (i.e. neither are big on redeeming qualities [as generalizations go, which undergrads do...?]).

ZBC v. ERS - ERS is a hair more listenable than ZBC can be at times. Although, on average, ZBC sponsors better shows.

Up Beacon Street (over the bridge on your right) from Buckminster is Audubon Circle which has great, cheap eats, the best bathrooms in Boston and decor to match.

nader (nader), Monday, 4 October 2004 00:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

somerville vs. cambridge?

Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 4 October 2004 02:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jamaica Plain vs Allston vs Mission Hill

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

how recognisable are the places where the public executions are described in A Handmaid's Tale?

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 4 October 2004 16:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boston, why do you wear baseball caps, muscle tees, and shorts to concerts?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

thats the official uniform of concertgoers in massachusetts.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

because all the clubs are near Fenway

Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

mary, i didn't make the show cause i was sick. how many smiths songs did i miss?

kephm, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

About three or four. The Boston crowd loves their Smiths songs. They went crazy for "How Soon is Now" and stared blindly for Moz-solo.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

heaven knows i'm miserable now

kephm, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

Were you there last night? I was hanging out in front of the Orpheum chatting with some castmembers as the show let out (and actually ran into people I know who went to the concert).

Did you see the "models"?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yes, I was there! I hightailed it out quick though as I had to rush to the Buckminster, pick up my bag, then rush to the C'town bus. Did you see Mozzer leave the theater? What models?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

I didn't see Moz, alas; we were down by the bagel place near the subway exit.

There were some "models" (ie, painfully thin, unattractive women, and I mean SERIOUSLY unattractive, like missing teeth and cross-eyed pony unattractive) dressed up in goofy, outlandish gear (ie, metallic fabric off-the-shoulder-in-a-Flashdance-stylee blouses with plastic miniskirts and thigh boots with their hair teased out to Connecticut) who were strutting around Boston Common near the Park Street T-station and walking up and down Winter St by the construction around the corner from the theater with a photographer in tow putting them into wildly goofy tableaus. It was very amusing.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 14:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

Too bad, I didn't see anyone like that. I did see a lot of guys in baseball caps though, like, everywhere. The Orpheum Mon night was no good--there was an empty seat in the second row, but these people wouldn't let me sit there bc "That's not your seat." Then there was an empty space right in front of the stage but the bouncer wouldn't let me stand there. So I was finally reduced to standing in the second row. Tues was a lot better--they let me sit in the second row and then let me stand right next to the stage, within easy groping distance. I really liked the Public Gardens and Boston Commons--especially with the weather so beautiful when I was there. My favorite thing about Boston? Hello Kitty World on Newbury.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

what's the name of that ephemera shop on, uh, harvard ave i guess, in allston? the one with cool stationery and metal doodads? or maybe it's closed....

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

god i've forgotten everything about boston

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I forgot about the ridiculous Sanrio store on Newbury! I've never been in there but it always makes me giggle when I see it.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

i just remember it blinding me with tweeness

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

i love that store.

kephm, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

i love all the stationery with totally garbled english phrases

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

My walkman finally died on the trip up, and I was sooooo tempted to buy the light blue Cinamaroll walkman there, but by some strange force of character, I resisted the impulse.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

"somerville v. cambridge"

No contest: Somerville.

nader (nader), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

(PS, with the noted Cambridge exceptions of the Kendall Square Cinema, Twisted Village, and Chez Henri (where my wife and I got engaged.)

nader (nader), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

Aw, that's so awesome! I keep intending to go to Chez Henri but we haven't gotten around to it yet.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

>>what's the name of that ephemera shop on, uh, harvard ave i guess, in allston?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

Cambridge exceptions

Pinocchio's

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

which side of the line is Tacos Lupita on?

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

This thread really has some amazing moments on it:

Dude, getting a kick in the balls is better than Boston, of course Philly is better. I went up there to visit my sister and we could literally see where she was from all points driving but had no discernible way to GET to her because the roads just don't go anywhere but a big circle.

-- Ally (garance8...), December 11th, 2001.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boston mentality: If you're lost, it's your fault for coming here in the first place.

PS, Don't look for street signs, that money goes to potholes.

nader (nader), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink


tacos lupita (salvadoran, mexican • somerville • ***)

13 elm st, somerville, ma, 02143

617-666-0677

(although it's awfully clost to the line, no?)

nader (nader), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

close, close to the line

nader (nader), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that would be... Davis Square, I guess? Maybe Porter?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

I went to Pinochios--these nice boys at the famous ice cream shop recommended i either go there or to some Mexican place.

Why is it never time for you to WALK across the streets in Boston? At every street I came to, traffic was whizzing by, there was never a walk sign, and I had to push the stupid button and wait forever. Then, get 1/3 of the way across the huge street, and start all over again.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

I found the areas of Boston where white people live mostly useless, but I enjoyed the Spanish (Hyde Square, Chelsea), Portuguese (East Cambridge), Chinese (Chinatown), Korean (Allston), Vietnamese (Uphams Corner), whatever pan-asian thing the the Porter Exchange is, and most of Roxbury/Dorchester well enough.

Radiowise, the only college stuff I enjoyed much were the Late Risers Club on WMBR (some of the best radio I've ever heard, actually), the goofy classic rock show that comes on after it, and the Greek(?) guy who plays 60's garage rock on WHRB. The Record Hospital was very disappointing, given all the legendary stuff I'd heard about it, but the orgies on WHRB are great. I never found anything interesting on WERS and WZBC.

Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that would be... Davis Square, I guess? Maybe Porter?

Actually, it's Wilson Square (seriously, I'm not making this up). But yeah, down the street a bit from Porter. (Or Portah, if you prefer).

nader (nader), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 23:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh, wacky Boston and its 8,000,000,000,000 squares.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

(yes I know it's really Cambridge and Somerville but humor me here)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

Sigh... I remember Davis Square... not surprising since I lived there 3 months ago.

+ Anna's Taqueria (!!!)
+ Diesel Cafe
+ That other really dirty cafe.
+ JP Licks
+ The Burren
------------------
Reasons for Somerville's continued existence.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but there are at least two other locations for Anna's.

Is the other really dirty cafe Someday?

Also, REDBONE'S.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

How could I have forgotten Redbones? And yeah, it was Someday. I used to get rooibos iced tea after work from a cute girl with a full-color Mad Max tattoo on her arm.

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

I figured there must've been a hundred barbecues in Dorchester better than Redbones, but I never managed to find any. Redbones is fun enough but the food is totally forgettable.

Who are the famous athletes from Boston? The only one I can think of is Marvin Hagler. Did Reggie Lewis grow up in Boston? I know he went to Northeastern.

Boston has the shortest, most inconspicuous MLK Blvd. I've ever seen. Why bother even having one? I also heard something about the Zakim Bridge also being called the Bunker Hill bridge because the Charlestown residents didn't want the bridge to be named for a Jew. Did I read that somewhere on this thread?

Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

oh, anna's has good rice

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
so, where should i go to watch the world series games on tv?? preferably in cambridge.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 21 October 2004 08:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

ANY WHERE.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

So I'll be near Copley Square Sunday sometime through Tuesday night. Anyone have any commentary on nearby restaurants/hotels? I probably won't have time for local stuff besides food and maybe a loop around the Public Garden, but Boston must-sees? I've been to Cambridge before.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

oh, and I'll be there again two weeks subsequent, and maybe will have actual sightseeing time then, so recommendations encouraged

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

ok, tonight I R DA LOSER. laugh in my general direction, no capitalism-tasting & all that.

above all ... ENJOY YERSELVES BOSTONIANS, YOU DESERVE IT!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 28 October 2004 03:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

i'm so glad i've been here this week.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

well, my viewing was limited - a pre-check-in trip to see a few races at Head of the Charles, and pre- and post-dinner walks around Back Bay, down to Tremont St, and up to Louisburg Sq - but I think I'm with Dan on this one - it's Neither. A real city, yes, moreso than DC. But I can see good reasons why one would want to live in DC rather than NYC, and don't see the same for Boston beyond work with a few institutions. It's nice, but it's too nice. Where's all the grit? Why does everyone look the same?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Toby, did you get caught in all last nights hoopla?

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 28 October 2004 10:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Where's all the grit?

South station?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dudley Square?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

I knew I was missing something. I've been through South Station before, but don't remember it.

Maybe it was just a reaction to the planning-gone-bad/mall-in-the-bad-sense of Back Bay (and inappropriate attribution back to the real thing in Beacon Hill, which, admittedly, I saw at night and while distracted by a phone). I did kinda like what I saw of the South End, and Trinity and other churches were interesting.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

Trinity is GORGEOUS; my wife and I sang in the choir there for 2 years.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm going there next week. So it had better be classic.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

OMG COME TO THE CONCERT AT KING'S CHAPEL SUNDAY EVENING AT 5 PM!!!!!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

is this sunday the 7th or sunday the 31st? I R not in USland on October 31st.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 14:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

by the way, what is this concert anyway?

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boo it's the 31st.

The concert is this one. My wife and I are singing in it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

ah well, I'm sure you'll do fine without me.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

What was the perfect little neighborhood I wandered into after I left the public library en route to Hyatt but accidentally landed in an ubermanicured utopian village--is that Back Bay?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Either Back Bay or The South End, depending on which direction you walked (you don't happen to remember any street names?).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

No, but then I turned in desperation to get out of the neverending suburbs (the only person around was a postman) and I ended up at Saks.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

You were in the South End. It's really gorgeous over there (and probably the area of town I'd most like to move into).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dirty yuppie. (j/k)

It was really lovely, but almost fairy-tailish. It's super expensive to live there, I presume?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

OH YES. We had friends who lived in a 600 sq ft condo that they paid $350,000 for. 600 SQUARE FEET. If you want a decent amount of living space, you are EASILY looking at $600+K.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

(Or, in rent terms, think at least $900+/person.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

$900/person is cheap!

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

Not if you're living with 3 other people.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

Now that I've attending school near it for the past three months, Downtown Crossing is my leading "grit" candidate.

nader (nader), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

Haha yeah!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think I want more, not grit, but what it produces or is a product of - dynamism. It just seems so reified. I dunno, I'm probably being too down on it. Maybe its brisk familiarity made it lonely for a single explorer, whereas humid, strange Houston was a fun adventure. Maybe it was just allergies.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, I'm probably being too down on it.

NO YOU AREN'T.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boston's a difficult city to appreciate in a few days (much less seven going on eight years).

Ultimately it's cities like Somerville and Cambridge and an area like the South End that give Boston any sort of dynamism (or character). Boston itself? Boston proper?

It's very vanilla.

Although I took a long look at the newer half of the Public Library today and I must say: that's some dope ass exterior design going on right there.

For Boston anyway...

nader (nader), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

I like how Tracer's post near the top of this thread has now fully justified itself:

First, Ned, it's spelt Carl Yastrzemski. As great as the Rooster was he is not by any stretch better than Manny, so 70s Boston loses in left field. But: Harvard Square hadn't become utterly uninteresting yet, Aerosmith didn't take showers yet... close call. But I'd still trade it all for Manny.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

hey, Ghost of Dan Perry... i) good luck with your concert ii) are you interested in getting together next week to discuss Dr Who issues?

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 31 October 2004 16:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

i) Thank you! ii) Sure! If you're interested, my wife is doing some ensemble work in a production of "Strike Up The Band" on Friday night and Sunday afternoon in Cambridge; I will be there Friday night for sure. (Saturday night we've committed to a dinner party.) Let me know how long you're in town and when you're available and we'll see what we ca work out (also where you'll be and what type of place you'd like to meet up; bar/restaurant/etc).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 31 October 2004 18:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

Where's all the grit?

roxbury dorchester mission hill jamaica plain etc and so on, son.
certainly not on the banks of the fucking charles river during the head of the charles. walk through jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville fo yo dynamism next time through

nader OTM boston itself=vanilla

south station= bums, random hookers, construction worker, creepy businesmen


kephm, Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

walk through jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville fo yo dynamism next time through

what, the suburbs? pfft

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 31 October 2004 20:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

somerville reprezentz, playa: 02143 in the hizous!

Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

what, the suburbs? pfft

jamaica plain, brighton, allston, somerville : boston :: brooklyn, the bronx, queens : nyc

nader (nader), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

South End is gorgeous. Having all of the buildings made from red bricks surely helps though. You get a lot more for your rent money if you leave Boston proper though.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Only Somerville is a seperate municipality and can really be called a suburb; Jamaica Plain, Brighton and Allston are part of the city of Boston proper.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

Well, you know what I mean Dan... ;)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I know! That was to Gabbneb, not you.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

FAP on Tuesday, Nov. 16?

youn, Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

there are way way WAY more suburbs of boston than those.

Just the immediate ones like:
Waltham, Watertown, Somerville, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Everett, Chelsea, Revere, Winthrop, Lynn, Quincy, Braintree, NEWTON, Milton, Dedham, Needham

etc. etc. etc.


what was this discussion actually about? I didn't really read.

but Boston is certainly classic.

trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

oh wait, someone was looking for grit

yeah, roxbury and all the other parts of town that border roxbury

that's quite enough grit for me

trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

First, Ned, it's spelt Carl Yastrzemski. As great as the Rooster was he is not by any stretch better than Manny, so 70s Boston loses in left field. But: Harvard Square hadn't become utterly uninteresting yet, Aerosmith didn't take showers yet... close call. But I'd still trade it all for Manny.

but the rooster wasn't carl yastrzemski and he didn't play left field. he played shortstop. so i'm a bit confused by this argument.

but in any case, '00s boston beats '70s boston at virtually every position on the baseball field, and not just because of what happened last week, but because they are in fact a better team. though i would kill to have luis tiant on the mound for boston next year.

as for aerosmith, though, anyone who would choose aerosmith now over aerosmith in '75 either needs therapy or plays for the yankees.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

I was wrong: E.T.J.F.N. lives in Cambridge.

youn, Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

so my second trip was much more likable than my first. perhaps the great weather the first day played a role. i still don't like back bay that much, and the Public Garden was nice but nothing special, but the North End - now that I like - and Waterfront Park at dusk - swoon. visited several of the civic/Freedom Trail sites, which were at least moderately interesting and some very nice-looking. Had chowder and beans at Durgin Park and a great meal at the bar of maybe the best restaurant in town, where i got to eavesdrop on great local foodie gossip among the waitstaff. i'd like to come back for the stuff I've missed.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 November 2004 04:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Uma Thurman is from Boston

TOMBOT, Friday, 12 November 2004 04:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

by way of Morningside Heights

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 12 November 2004 04:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
the nastiest patriots fan ain't shit compared to the nicest iggles fan
-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), December 13th, 2003.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hmmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
tell me of Cantabrigian hotels - the Harvard Square Hotel, the Inn at Harvard, the Kendall Hotel

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

The Harvard Square Hotel and the Inn at Harvard are on opposite ends of Harvard Square and maybe a six-minute walk apart. I would presume that the Harvard Square Hotel is less expensive solely because the last time I checked prices at the Inn it was something like $200+/night.

The Kendall Hotel is in the MIT area right near the Kendall T stop. Other than that, I know nothing about it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

the charles hotel has some great bars/restaurants in it including the regattabar for jazz, and Noir, which makes wonderful (overpriced, but wonderful) cocktails. bottled beer is $4 though, so you can drink there all night.

you're not looking for cheap are you ;)

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Haha I was gonna say!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure I understand the last bit. I'm looking for something cheap, but nice.

Harvard Square Hotel sounds ideal, really - perfect location (ok, the immediate site is a little weird) in that it's right by the river/HSq amenities/T, and really inexpensive, considering. And you don't need to stay at the Charles to eat at Rialto. The Inn at Harvard might be a little "nicer" but seems a bit unnecessarily pretentious in style. Kendall Hotel looks very cute, but I see no reason to pay more for it. I guess I just want assurance that HSH isn't a dump.

How far to Inman Square from such places?

Also, what about the Harborside Inn? That seems a good budget-conscious choice if you want to stay close to all the touristy stuff - and this is for tourist purposes - but I think Cambridge would probably be nicer.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

The Charles is exorbitantly expensive, or at least it was. Also, the last meal I ate at Rialto ended up being $50/person.

Inman Square proper is probably a 20 minute walk from Harvard Square; the 69 bus runs right through it.

I don't know anything about Harborside Inn BUT it's right next to State Street??? AWESOME DUDE.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Supposedly it can be loud at night. I'm probably just not remembering well, but I can't think of what exactly would go on there at night - are there people around?

The bus is from Harvard Square? Is Inman closer to MIT or about the same?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

Inman is closer to Harvard and Central; it would be something of a hike to get there from Kendall/MIT. The 69 picks up people right and Johnston Gate in front of Harvard and runs every 15-20 minutes.

Nighttime in that area = Quincy Market and the neighborhood of 8 million bars and restaurants right next to it. If you like going out at night, THAT is the place to stay as you can stagger home without having to reserve $25 for cabfare.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

Harborside certainly would save a T ride or two and some walking, but, while not exorbitant, it's the most expensive of these, and to the extent I was thinking of late night (as opposed to regular night) activities at all, I was thinking Inman Sq. Or is it not the place for that? I'm not much of a stagger-homer.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

just so you know, no part of cambridge is very far away from the other. the subway has 5 stops in the city, and the bus runs everywhere.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

Depends on what you're looking for in "late night". Inman has some restaurants and three bars that I've frequented (Ryles, Thirsty Scholar, and if it's reopened, The Druid) but as far as looking for someplace to hang out in the evenings you'll have more options if you stay in town or do Harvard or Central Squares in Cambridge.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...
so, any suggestions for high-end restaurants? we're looking for somewhere for a "special" dinner.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, so i guess i'll be in cambridge ma from early april - mid may, and colette will be there for some of that time. hence the questions, i've not just decided to fly to boston for a meal or anything.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

No. 9 Park is very good, but I'm not sure how 'special' (meaning?) the atmosphere is - seems a bit loud and spare (but I've only been in the front bar/cafe room)

Hamersley's is also very good, if less interesting perhaps, and the atmosphere might be more suitable

Aujourd'hui?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Damn, I was about to be all WOAH HIGH ROLLER!

What are you actually looking for in a "high-end" restaurant? Do you want to stay in Cambridge or are you willing to cross the river?

Here are some suggestions for places in Boston proper that I like (may not necessarily fit your definition of "high-end"):

Smith & Wollensky - Ginormous steaks-a-go-go (avoid if vegetarian) located by the Park Plaza hotel at the corner of Stuart and Columbus 3 blocks from the Arlington stop on the green line.

Kingfish - A Bobby Flay seafood restaurant located at the end of Quincy Market closest to the Aquarium.

L'Espalier - I have probably butchered the name and I've never eaten there but this is supposed to be crazy nice and crazy expensive. I'm pretty sure it's French. I believe it's on Newbury St but I'm not 100% sure.

The Red Fez - This place is pushing the definition of "high-end" but it's a really great Mediterranean restaurant on Washington St in the South End.

Brasserie Jo - This is a French restaurant in the Colonnade Hotel on Huntington Ave. They have awesome appetizers and awesome martinis.

Mama Maria - This is a super high-end Italian restaurant in the North End; I don't remember what street it's on but it has a coat-and-tie dress code (or at least it did back in 1994).

Actually my office in Back Bay is kind of surrounded by nice restaurants so I can take a walk around tonight and report back on all of the places I'm forgetting.

If you want to stay in Cambridge there's Rialto at the Charles Hotel in Harvard Square and Harvest off Brattle St, also in Harvard Square. Oh, and there's also The Elephant Walk (French/Cambodian) up Mass Ave past Porter Square.

(xpost: I've never eaten at No. 9 Park but I've heard it's outstanding. I've also heard that Aujourd'hui is massively overrated.)

Dan (Cooking? What's That?) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

i dont believe i've ever been to a really high end restaurant anywhere, but i've been to some pretty good ones that go in that direction.

the red house in harvard square is super super cosy (especially the small rooms w/fireplaces)

oleana is supposed to be really wonderful for a special dinner. that's in cambridge too, but closer to inman. it's mediteranean.

google both, they should pop right up.

upstairs on the square is great for that too.


haha was just going to say rialto and harvest.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh right, Upstairs On The Square! The head waiter sings with my wife and I sometimes. Awesome, awesome brunch.

Dan (NUM) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

hurray!

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

L'Espalier is crazy expensive. I had a mixed experience - part transcendent, part pedestrian. I think it might be too business-y in ambience, though.

I've also heard that Aujourd'hui is massively overrated.)

I've had that sense too. I'm relying on a semi-recent namecheck, but it's based upon an historical selection.

Upstairs on the Square might not be special enough in ambience. But the food is quite good, and it's really lovely for brunch overlooking that square (which is called what again?).

I haven't been to Oleanna, but I remember getting really excited reading the menu.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

is the Todd English place in Charlestown (is that the original Olives?) still good?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Clio gets lots of raves and would probably be appropriate if a bit trendyish. I wasn't all that impressed with its sushi bar, Uni, but I wasn't in that receptive a mood when I went there.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

ARGH where I said Bobby Flay I meant Todd English! Sorry!

I haven't been to the one in Charlestown so I can't speak to it. He's got another restaurant on the border of Back Bay and the Theatre District called Bonfire that I walk past all the time but have never eaten at. Also the Ritz Carlton has a place called Jer-Nae ("journey": yes, I know) that I've never eaten at but is great for drinks (solely because they have Absolut Peppar and hence you can get spicy vodka tonics there).

Dan (Eating Out) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

These are all good food recommendations and all to keep in mind BECAUSE -- do recall I will be there in Boston around the time Toby is there for a couple of days. FAP etc!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't trust the ratings, but here's a list of places with reviews

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

L'Espalier apparently has more rooms than the one I was in, so maybe I'm wrong on the ambience.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think I would go to L'Espalier if 'special' means you want something impressive and inventive. It's a power restaurant with pretty good taste. I'd go to Hamersley's if it means you want something comfortably satisfying and maybe somewhat romantic (though the main room is big and bright). It's the haute cuisine version of home cooking.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

what about places that are a little less "high end" (i.e. $$$$)but still cozy and romantic?

stewart downes (sdownes), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

I am very mad that Maison Robert closed because I ate the best meal of my life there. It was fucking expensive ($260 for two people) but SO WORTH IT.

(xpost: Stewart, I think you should investigate Chez Henri on Shepard St. in Cambridge. IIRC they don't cost a mint and it's a cool place.)

Dan (Mmmmmm Foie Gras) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

And I'm probably wrong about Upstairs on the Square too. You should be fine in the more formal room, or their special upstairs room, if you specify one or the other.

gab (boo - ducks are not meant to be eaten) bneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 February 2006 21:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

i second oleana. also in cambridge, harvest, kinda between brattle and mt. auburn, is awesome, and salt's, on main st. off central square, sounds great. as does rendezvous, the new place in central square, though i haven't been to the last two.

delurked, Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

what about places that are a little less "high end" (i.e. $$$$)but still cozy and romantic?

Pomodoro near Coolidge Corner, in Brookline. Our new fave.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Did they move or franchise???? They used to be on Hanover St in the North End!

Dan (Yum) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 February 2006 22:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

wow, thanks for all the suggestions - i'll have to look into them all over the weekend. having not really loved boston when i was there before i'm actually really looking forward to coming back, so it'll be interesting to see how it lives up to my weirdly rose-tinted memories.

oh, and is there any really good sushi to be had in boston?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 9 February 2006 23:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

or indeed quite good sushi, for that matter.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

ooh, i'm getting excited about all these options.

am i going to have problems finding good vegetarian food? i kind of feel spoiled because in london a lot of the 'fancy' restaurants have started adding veg menus as options, so i'm not only faced with health food places.

we'll probably do at least one nice/fancy dinner, but will probably be eating out at less expensive and less fancy places quite a bit as well. oh, and the ice cream!

xpost-- we are such dorks both posting to the same threads on our laptops

colette (a2lette), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

or indeed quite good sushi, for that matter

Uni, as I mentioned above, is probably your best bet in terms of invention. Otherwise, I don't know, but I don't think it's really a Boston strength.

as for non-fancy places, I would be sure to eat at Durgin-Park. both East Coast Grill and Jasper White's Summer Shack have fancy and non-fancy (and pricey and non-pricey, the latter especially cheap) food in non-fancy but fun settings.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 February 2006 00:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

TWIN CITY DONUTS

COFFEE AT ALGIERS

PLENTY OF VEG PLACES-TRY THE GRASSHOPPER OR BUDDHAS DELIGHT

kephm (kephm), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

every time this thread comes up it reminds me how much I love visiting Boston...and every year when I go for a ballgame I never want to leave. Is it only classic if you don't live there?

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 10 February 2006 01:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I don't think I'd want to live there, but I've come to like it as a place to visit. I think I'm going to try to make it back - and take in a game - in mid-April or early May.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

how late in the season could I ski up at Sunday River? Originally the plan was to do a Boston trip in later March and ski up there but a) I've never skied in the East (and don't really have much desire to) and b) I'm not convinced conditions would be fun. I'd rather go hike in the Presidentials anyway.

But I'll probably just end up going up there around the time you do Gabbneb, which has been an annual event for the past six years. You need to work your sources for Green Monster seats for me.

don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 10 February 2006 02:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

good luck scoring Green Monster seats.

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Friday, 10 February 2006 10:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

I used to like Jae's for sushi; I haven't been there since they moved onto Boylston St. Cafe Sushi on Mass Ave between Harvard and Central isn't particularly fancy but does good sushi, plus in town you've go Guyahama on Boylston St. and Ginza and Apollo in Chinatown.

Dan (So Hungry Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

OH and No. 9 Park is pretty damn tasty.

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Friday, 10 February 2006 13:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
HI DERE I AM IN BOSTON

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

EEK A NED

Dan (IN MY HOUSE) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yes yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

k-k-k-kow

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

OMG TRACER

Dan (You Win Everything) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

That seems accurate enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 03:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

BOSTON WHY WERE YOU MAPPED BY COW PATHS

the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Thursday, 20 April 2006 07:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

I passed this on to Dan, who laughed long and loud and clear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hi Ned! Scott & Maria and I are on Martha's Vineyard, an easy bus-and-boat connection from Boston! You and Dan and all the rest of the Boston ILXors should come down next week, after our weekend guests leave! Plenty o' room for FAP MV.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

Aw, I would love it! But alas, there is no time -- I fly back out Monday afternoon, the day after Terrastock. Another time, hopefully!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Absolutely!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
4 months pass...
TWIN CITY DONUTS

is this a boston franchise?!? 'cause i've seen them in NYC and philadelphia. and it seems like a down-market version of dunkin donuts (which i always thought was a boston franchise).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 9 September 2006 07:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
perhaps more balkanized than most, but also more civic?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

Dear Bostonians,

I will be in your area Nov. 7-10, and in Cambridge during the day on the 7th. Let's meet-up!

Sincerely,
Youn

youn (youn), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Keane is always trying to one-up us!

Some amazing Venezuelan food to be found in Boston.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

So... are there exciting festivals etc in Boston in the summer (July-September)? So far I have discovered the jazz festival in late September, and the Tanglewood classical festival which appears to be really quite far from Boston. Surely there must be some pop/rock/electronic stuff?

toby, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

you can take a bus to/from Tanglewood

http://www.bso.org/bso/mods/c_09_gen_images.jsp;jsessionid=YPTRGEWGJF42OCTFQMGCFEQ?id=30300043

gabbneb, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

But the answer's basically no, afaik. You want folk/roots music-type stuff, there's a decent amount of that nearby, but no Glasto-type events. Most of your big festivals exist in places where there are fewer big cities - everyone comes here anyway - and to the extent you find them on the East Coast, they're usually gonna be more central, i.e. between NY and DC.

gabbneb, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

if you're just looking for (semi-)outdoor concerts, and maybe this is obv, there's the Tweeter Center in Mansfield, plus the South Shore Music Circus and Cape Cod Melody Tent

gabbneb, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

There's definitely a growing electronic scene if you are into house/techno/nu-rave stuff. I think there was a small indie-pop festival last year too.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the info - I didn't expect that there would be anything much, but then I hadn't known about Pitchfork/Lollapalooza before moving to Chicago, so you never know...

Electronic - I am definitely into my mnml etc. Are there particular places/websites/whatever to find out about stuff going on?

toby, Sunday, 20 April 2008 21:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not necessarily the type of festival you're talking about, but there's the Boston Early Music Festival:

http://www.bemf.org/

There's also the Boston Folk Festival:

http://www.bostonfolkfestival.org/

HI DERE, Sunday, 20 April 2008 21:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

T - I don't know about festivals (were actually contemplating going to Chicago for Lollapalooza but then realized how $ it would be) really but there are a lot of good shows coming up. We have tickets for six shows in may already.

Unfortunately I don't think there's a single Boston gig website. I usually just check the websites of realiable venues.

www.mideastclub.com
www.thedise.com
http://www.ttthebears.com/

I also use livenation.com pretty often.

Hope that helps some.

ENBB, Sunday, 20 April 2008 22:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

electronic stuff -

http://basstown.blogspot.com/
http://www.squar3.com/
http://www.soulclap.us

should give you enough links/info to start

Michael F Gill, Monday, 21 April 2008 06:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

the little light bulbs in the shapes of "8"s from which you can make any number.

These are called 7-segment displays. Not as cool as Nixie tubes or Numitrons, but still cool.

felicity, Monday, 21 April 2008 07:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for all the links - v helpful!

toby, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 02:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

Other good resources:

WMBR concert calendar: http://wmbr.org/www/cr
Lemmingtrail events listings: http://www.lemmingtrail.com/events/

govern yourself accordingly, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 02:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

<a href-"http://www.lemmingtrail.com/events/";>Lemmingtrail events</a> needs the backslash fwiw

govern yourself accordingly, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 02:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not quite as much your parents' Newport Folk this year

gabbneb, Saturday, 26 April 2008 22:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

boston: now 40% more insufferable!

scott seward, Friday, 20 June 2008 02:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

although maybe it's just me having to listen to people who have NEVER so much as mentioned basketball in all the time i've known them act as if they have been diehard celtics fans since birth. maybe they were. but i doubt it!

living in philly for so many years, i have never lived through so much WE RULE! SIS BOOM BAH overload. obviously.

scott seward, Friday, 20 June 2008 02:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

that's the overzealous nature of boston sport fans though. wallow uncontrollably and/or boast proudly.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Under two weeks til we live in Boston! Well, Cambridge.

toby, Friday, 20 June 2008 16:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

hahaha I was going to mention this yesterday but forgot to

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

choochy the TERRORIST more like!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I know people name their pets all manner of stupid things but CHOOCHY?

still lolling at chasing a dog for SEVENTEEN HOURS

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

I KNOW that is the thing about this story that is utterly ridiculous. how does it take 17 hours to catch a dog?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

You have to remember that the Curt Schilling body shape is relatively prevalent here, only without the attendant Professional Athlete caveat.

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hey I just moved here!

Maria, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Welcome! Hope that wasn't your poodle at the airport!

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.icaboston.org/about/pressreleases/shepard-fairey/

In complement to the exhibition, Fairey will be creating public art works at sites around Boston.

very very serious (gabbneb), Saturday, 13 December 2008 11:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm really craving some Pho Pasteur right about now. I miss Cambridge :(

youcangoyourownway, Saturday, 13 December 2008 15:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Staying in Peabody this weekend - hotel rates went nuts thanks to the game, I guess. So we're spending one day in Salem, etc. and then Saturday around Boston for the game.

A former local recommended Legal Sea Foods, which appears to have a place near the hotel - is it worth going there for dinner?

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 05:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Legal is fine (been a couple times) but I'm not a seafood expert by any means.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 23:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Legal is basically "Old Reliable"; it's a chain, but it's a chain with really good food (plus every restaurant is styled differently, making it seem less chain-like).

I just discovered a pretty decent Mexican place right next to Fenway called La Verdad which has very good drinks and very good guacamole.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

La Verdad, eh? Never heard of it!!! Where by Fenway?

Milo I agree that Legal is a safe bet despite it being a chain. The one by the aquarium is particularly nice and you can go see the punk rock penguins!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

They have awesome hair and the Aquarium is one of my favorite places in Boston so I would recommend a visit.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's all the way down by the end, next to Tequila Rain. I was there Monday and they had many tasty tequila-based drinks.

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Agreed re: Legal Sea Food, its location near the Aquarium and the Aquarium itself. All worth it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

x-post Tequila Rain is on Landsdowne Right? I have been down past the HoB in a while. Going to see Pet Shop Boys there in a couple weeks maybe we'll have to have dinner at that Mexican joint first!!!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha yes on Landsdowne, somehow I managed to leave that out oops

nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

I work a few blocks from the aquarium so I can definitely vouch for that legal seafoods and the area in general. The north end is also a few blocks away too, which is pretty much like restaurant row.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 20 August 2009 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tequila Rain is a hilarious name for a restaurant imo

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

milo avoid the suburban legals imo

call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 August 2009 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

x-post Oh Tequila Rain isn't a restauarant it's acout as cheesy a dance club as they come.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 20 August 2009 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

boston FAP - let's do it up

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

wife & i just moved here and don't really know anybody

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

also doesn't have to be FAP night but if anyone's down for some texas hold-em poker i am especially interested, especially if poker players are into playing records and/or sampling beers/bourbons

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this should happen. It's about time I met some of the other fools from this city in person anyway.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

publick house!

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes! <3 PH. I'll have to take the T out there but that's ok. Since I've moved off it the B line seems like such a huge pain in the ass but it's ok, I'll make an exception for a FAP.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw the Roadhouse which is owned by the PH ppl and just a little further up on Beacon is good too and the specialty store is right next door. You get 10% off there with a receipt from either restaurant so you snobs can buy your fancy drinks on the (sorta) cheap. ;-)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

AND they have fried pickles.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

ph is on the c tho right? a little better than the b

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was totally wondering about the roadhouse

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

first time i went past it coming from my apartment i was like 'ohh shit did the publick house close down ???" b/c they look similar but yea then a block later is the PH

fried pickles are crazy, so tasty

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's on the C which is indeed better than the B but not quite as good as the D. lol. I went to roadhouse for the first time a couple months ago because the PH was closing early and it was surprisingly good. Probably not quite as good as PH but it's a little less insanely crowded and did I mention the fried pickles?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

what kind of fried pickles are they - spears, say, or the pickle chips? (prefer spears but either is pretty special)

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hmmmm. They are pickle chips. I had never had them before and was sort of o_O at the idea but my god I was wrong.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

yea fried pickles are prob one of the best things ever. best bar food at least

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wait have you been to the PH yet? If not then that's definitely where the FAP should be because it's the original and best. Also where are you guys living? I spent a lot of time living in various crappy apts in Allston/Brighton so I know the area well.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

no i haven't been to ph. want to really badly.

we live right near cleveland circle. i work at bc, in one of their libraries, so my boston experience so far has basically been limited to that area w/ few exceptions

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

hi guys!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

let's get this done.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

apartment itself is GREAT, we love it. neighborhood i have some reservations about, mostly b/c i work at BC and it basically feels like an extension of the campus. was surprised when i first got here b/c we were living in a small town (northampton MA) before but this neighborhood is somehow less diverse than the 30,000 pop. town we just moved from

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally xp!

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ahhh, ok. I used to live right by there off Comm Ave. The bars immediately around there really suck imo because they're all full of BC kids. Tasca on Comm has great tapas and Bangkok Bistro in Cleavland Circle has decent Thai. Best pizza I found around there is from Sabatinos - also on Comm. There used to be a movie theatre right in CC but I think that's closed down. ;_;

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 02:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

tasca is great

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Are you on Tasca's mailing list? If so then you will get emails from Dan the manager. He sends all kinds of really good coupons. It's worth it.

Would the 1st weekend in October work? Maybe the Saturday?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

ps - you guys better be fun.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

yea bangok bistro is good, and sadly the movie place is done. will try tasca. it's kind of nice tho living near the c & d, getting into the city is pretty easy. getting to simmons is easy too. sean u live in allston right? haven't been there much so far but some areas seem pretty cool

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol enbb i can't promise anything

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

i might be taking my mom out for her birthday on that saturday (10/3), tho that friday would totally work

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I was in Allston last night. I can't believe how much new stuff there is on Brighton Ave. So many of the stores/bars have changed!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I could probably do the Friday too.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

yup i live in allston though i guess technically close to where it becomes brighton? i self-identify as an allstonian. there's a few good things down here actually.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

yea i think that works for me xxxp

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah the turnover on brighton and harvard in the last year has been nuts

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

I used to <3 the Common Ground.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

x-post Srsy. I was driving down Brighton Ave just like . . . wtf? When all this happen. Makes me want to go back and investigate.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

also doesn't have to strictly ILX people - if you guys have cool non-ilx friends i'd like to meet them too

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

so are we saying friday 10/2? (need to block off my v. busy calendar jk)

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

as far as i know that works for me - parents-in-law might be visiting that weekend but prob not until saturday

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

sweet. should we make a new thread so boston peeps and lurkers and whoever see it? i would do that but i'm going to start sleeping instead.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah we can that tomorrow. 10/2 sounds good but we can always play it by ear too in case something comes up for someone.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

sounds good

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 03:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

I believe Brighton begins around the Washington Street T Stop on the B line, because the Whole Foods right there has its address in Brighton. I actually used to live a couple years ago on a street that bordered Brookline, Allston, and Brighton (I'm now living closer to Brigton Center.)

Mark - are you going to Simmons for GSLIS by chance?

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

i am!

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cool, I graduated from there back in '06 and my GF just started taking classes there. Maybe she knows you, ha.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

michael i go there too.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

sup?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

simmons crew here

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

of my two intro classes this semester one of them is both really easy and really interesting (the 488 tech requirement), the other is interesting but professor assigns reading overload (415 info org)

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

whoa glad 488 is interesting for you it was a snooze when i took it. who is your 415 prof?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

candy schwartz

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

good to know--415 is one of the required ones i still have to take.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

yea there's kind of a lot of work. she's really enthusiastic and makes the material pretty interesting, but it's a really big commitment. i'm sure i'll be happy that i did it but right now as my first time back in school since undergrad, i'm feeling pretty overwhelmed. one of those classes that just hangs over your head b.c there's so much shit to do for it

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

michael, you and your gf should come to the fap

mark cl, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 17:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Candy Schwartz is THE class to take if you are serious about cataloging. I think nearly everyone I know who has taken her class has said something along the lines of what Mark said above.

Are y'all doing the history double major or the archives concentration?

Back on topic: Has Espresso Royale near BU turned into a Panera? I did not hear any fanfare about that closing at all, and I've known a few people who worked there.

I also noticed the wine shop "Best Cellars" in Brookline changed their name. I'm going to miss that awful pun.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

espresso royale--not to my knowledge! that would be awful....going to have to drive by and check.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think espresso royale is still espresso royale.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Candy Schwartz is THE class to take if you are serious about cataloging. I think nearly everyone I know who has taken her class has said something along the lines of what Mark said above.

Are y'all doing the history double major or the archives concentration?

ha, i'm writing a paper for her class right now

also, neither, i'm just doing the general course of study

mark cl, Thursday, 24 September 2009 00:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

YO BOSTON-BASED PPL

as promised: HI DERE IN CONCERT

the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 14:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Shaky/out of focus YouTube clips plz.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

aw that looks fantastic.

Maria, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 21:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Joanna Newsom is playing the Sanders Theater next month! I have tickets! I am excited!

BUT: The show is on St. Patrick's Day.

Is this gonna present a problem getting in / out of the city? I SUSPECT SO.

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would expect massive droves of young drunk people clogging up the T

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

any tips? i'm really clueless getting around boston and want to have a good attack plan / exit strategy. sanders theatre is in cambridge, yes?

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's on the Harvard campus next to the Science Center; red line to Harvard and walking through the yard is the easiest way to get there once you get off of the T (if you're coming up via bus or train, you'll be coming into South Station which is already on the red line so navigating to and from Harvard Square shouldn't be an issue).

Since you won't have to switch trains, all you'll really have to contend with is crowded trains, and even then depending on when you're traveling it won't be that bad, so I wouldn't stress about it.

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah should be fine unless you have like a religious objection to drunks

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

cool venue btw; i saw leo kottke there once

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is the interior, apparently?

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~memhall/sanders.html

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

yup

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes. It's a fucking awesome place to perform.

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

I should get a ticket.

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

(the acoustics are clear enough that you aren't drowned in reverb like in an echoey cathedral and you can really HEAR what everyone around you is doing, but the sound blends very well out in the audience)

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ticket Availabilty: This event is SOLD OUT

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://ofa.fas.harvard.edu/cal/details.php?ID=40826

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Whoever goes, you'll have to let us all know how it went.

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

awesome. thanks dan!

elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn, read this thread too late.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ugh...that fuckin accent!

#

Spinspin Sugah, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 21:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Dirty Water for real. If you're in town, don't drink the tap water today:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/05/catastrophic_le.html

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 1 May 2010 22:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

big fucking sigh

DUM DUM DUM DUMMMMM! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't you wish you lived in cambridge

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 May 2010 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

really glad i live in cambridge. even more glad i'll be living in chicago in 2 months though tbh.

toby, Monday, 3 May 2010 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

As long as this thread is revived -- I'll be in Boston June 22 to 24. FAP anyone?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 14:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah!

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 May 2010 14:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh man, i will so be there

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 14:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cool deal!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 14:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Cool, I will try to come too. Ned, you must go to Weirdo Records! It makes Twisted Village feel rather boring in comparison.

Cambridge wouldn't be caught dead relying on Boston for anything, right? Although I guess if they had a problem with their water, none of the surrounding communities would care as much, and they'd basically be on their own.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 3 May 2010 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ned!! FAP in June sounds awesome. :D

I was out of town yesterday morning so able to pick up some water easily on my way back. CAD if you're having any trouble finding bottled - I was at the Star Market on Comm Ave this morning and they have tons.

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Monday, 3 May 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Rock -- let's maybe aim for Wednesday the 23rd as the actual FAP/dinner/whatever night! More closer to the time, of course!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 May 2010 19:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds good. :]

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Monday, 3 May 2010 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

woo!

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey thanks e! i had actually been livin strong and boiling everything until today when I broke down and bought a bottle to take to class

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 May 2010 21:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I wasn't boiling shit. lol lazy. They have pretty cheap gallons there so it might be worth a stop.

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Monday, 3 May 2010 21:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Revive -- so, 23rd still on for a FAP of some sort that evening?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm still in!

ksh, Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounds good to me :D Where are you staying while you're in Boston Ned?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

With friendly friends (as they say!). I'll be catching up with a lot of folks here and there!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah cool - just thinking about possible places to go unless you already have somewhere in mind?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Somewhere T-accessible, preferably. :-)

ksh, Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

What direction are you coming from? Which line?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Me? I'd be coming from the Orange Line, but I can connect to anywhere.

ksh, Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah you. OK - will think. Obv suggestions always welcome.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure I'd be Orange Line as well! As for what, I've had pretty great Spanish and Ethiopian cuisine last time I was there, be happy to try something equally good!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 June 2010 04:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

:-D

ksh, Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay so a week from tonight and ENBB is our cruise director. Time/place locked down yet or suggested or whatever?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't think we ever came up with anything, unless something was decided offboard

ksh, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nothing as yet.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I say Ned takes us all out to L'Espalier.

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Take him to the poetry slam at the Cantab

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I say Ned takes us all out to L'Espalier.

hahahaha yes!

So ned is coming from orange line and Dan and CAD are in Somerville. If ned got to Sullivan Sq. I would happily pick him up and drive somewhere in Somerville. It's your hood Dan. What's good!?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbh the best bet is Davis Square; it's easiest to get to for the folks without cars, relatively easy to park in for the folks with cars* and there are approximately a gazillion bars and restaurants of all different types

also Ned will likely be riding with me and mrs me unless he's off touristing somewhere without us, so he probably won't need a ride

In Davis, we could do:

Redbones - BBQ
Orleans - Americana/Pizza
Diva - Indian
Johnny D's - BBQ apparently? + music
Joshua Tree - American bar food
The Burren - Irish bar food
Sabur - Mediterranean
Rudy's - Mexican
Tu Y Yo - Mexican
Gargoyles - lol ripoff
Sagra - Italian

*massive caveat: parking directly in Davis can suck a lot but there are a bazillion side streets with parking; it's a question of circling/timing, plus since it's a "walkable" neighborhood ppl tend not to drive there anyway

(btw CAD where'd you move????)

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

dan i am on c0nwell st. off highland 10-12 minutes from davis walking

can i also say i ride hard for highland kitchen?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can make Davis, i'd just have to take the orange to red line

ksh, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

As the visiting SoCal person, taking me to Mexican food anywhere other than a bordering state is a recipe for potential disaster and/or endless critiques. So I vote other locations than those! Beyond that, up for anything, and while I am going to be busy during the day I should be back to get a ride with HI DERE as mentioned.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

drivers wld be welcome to one of my guest passes--u can park near my place and we can walk down to davis

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha i really love rudy's but it would make a socal person cry/ball their fists with rage tbh

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

*massive caveat: parking directly in Davis can suck a lot but there are a bazillion side streets with parking; it's a question of circling/timing, plus since it's a "walkable" neighborhood ppl tend not to drive there anyway

― Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:08 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

other massive caveat: Somerville has city-wide permit parking, meaning you need a residential permit to park on most of the streets

Bastards of Young Dro, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

area immediately around davis is well-metered yo

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah okay, I'm probably... 15-20 minutes away from you walking? on T3mple on the other side of Broadway

I have not yet eaten at Highland Kitchen but the menu looks great

hahaha i really love rudy's but it would make a socal person cry/ball their fists with rage tbh

tbh this is kind of why I want to take Ned there, also they have jalapeno margaritas

xp: ty CAD for taking words out of my mouth re: meters

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

et tu raggett?? the lakers are still busting their asses for YOU

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

true, but then you go back to massive caveat #1

Bastards of Young Dro, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbh this is kind of why I want to take Ned there, also they have jalapeno margaritas

You know, I've never actually USED the term 'smh' before...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

et tu raggett?? the lakers are still busting their asses for YOU

I'm sorry, I'm currently watching a bunch of Uruguayans party on TV.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxp oh, ok! i think i've cut through on yr street to get to 93. we could stage a fap convenient for us at, uh, olde magoun's saloon.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

my bf lives down the street from the highland kitchen and loves it but that would be a bit tough to get to for those without cars, no?

Out of the ones in Davis I've only been to Diva and Orleans but am willing to tr anywhere that's at least somewhat veggie friendly.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp that should say only us

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's a bit of a hike i would happily run shuttle from davis but we can also pick something more central.

also you raise a good point in that highland kitchen is not particularly good for veg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Though Tremendoid, assuming the Lakers win, I will proceed to trash talk the entire time I'm visiting, even though this will mean I'll be brutally killed by having a bunch of Dunkin' Donuts forced down my throat. I hope you're happy.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

another option would be East Coast Grill in Inman with their Martini From Hell (made with scotch bonnet-infused Absolut)

the last time I was there, our server wouldn't let me order it ;_; but I did get a shot of the vodka ^_^ and it was WAU HOT O_O

yes I often pick restaurants based on stupid things they do with spicy alcohol, why do you ask

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

also lolling at MagounFAP

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

am willing to tr anywhere that's at least somewhat veggie friendly.

RIP Redbones ;_;

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

as a California-gourmand for the past 2 decades, I highly recommend you take the Nedster out for any of the amazing (and cheap) seafood that Boston is known for: blue fin tuna, prawns, scallops, long-neck clams, lobster is honestly world-class...

i have a friend who runs a "gourmet cocktail" bar in that area across the river from downtown (sorry i'm horrible with boston geography), kinda pricy but they specialize in artisianal, crafted cocktails (ymmv with this lol), lmk if you're interested in it. she's rated one of the best in the biz, she tended the bar for the 2009 james beard awards for example.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

You must be talking about Drink?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yesss

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have been meaning to go to Drink for the better part of a year! A friend of mine who arranges parties for classical musicians is in love with that place.

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

also Davis Square + seafood = Out of the Blue, which I have never been to or actually ever knowingly seen

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Drink is amazing. I think that area is called Fort Charles. I am down for seafood but the only place I'm ever able to think of is Legal's which seems crappy because it's a chain even though it's actually excellent.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hope you're happy.

i dont ask for much

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like all the really good seafood places are outside of the city. Anyone have any suggestions of one closer that they've actually tried?

Steve Shasta making things complicated. ;p That's cool that your friend owns Drink. It's a pretty neat concept. Isn't there a sister place in NY or something?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've been to drink a few times now--it's rad

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean i would be happy to fap there, on a wednesday, with you guys

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

a point the boston globe's restaurant critic made recently--most of our restaurants have good seafood dishes, but we are mad short on excellent, actual seafood restaurants

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

This place treated me well but may be on the higher end pricewise? http://www.neptuneoyster.com/

On the cheaper end, we hit a place in chinatown for seafood dimsum and it was insanely great and very affordable.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i meant to go to neptune all last summer and never did ;_;

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

But they don't do food - what food places are in that area? is it near the barking crab? That's seafood and kind of fun! Maybe you guys don't like seafood anyway.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

a point the boston globe's restaurant critic made recently--most of our restaurants have good seafood dishes, but we are mad short on excellent, actual seafood restaurants

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

OTM

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you remember what the Dim Sum place was called? That could be fun! Also, I wouldn't have to drive.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I was about to suggest Barking Crab

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's pretty near the barking crab which is overpriced but fun and kind of cool for being a lobster shack in the middle of the city

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't been there in YEARS

huh seems the prices have bumped up a little, probably now that they have to wash their food in non-harbor water things cost more

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Honestly, I'd go in and go for the lol hueg seafood platter to share and then go to town on that mofo, stick to raw bar daily specials board and apps and avoid the entrees.

dim sum place was Chau Chow City, 83 Essex in C-Town.

Drink friend looks not unlike Elijah Wood in LOTR and is shares the same name as Joan Chen's character in Twin Peaks (i'm being totally serious, is2g).

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh Chau Chow City is THE BOMB

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

love love LOVE that place so much

Damn these skinny jeans' pockets. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

guys I just realized I will be working in an office extremely close to this area on the day in question

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never been to Chau Chow City!

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can we get a headcount/venue for this? I'd like to make a reservation if it's still possible.

Also does anyone care if dinner is slightly on the later side? Turns out my wife is going to be at a board meeting (ooh fancy) that starts at 6 that night, so I'd like to make an 8/8:30 reservation so she can join (and so we can get really wrecked at Drink beforehand)

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll be there! couldn't care less where we go, tbh, I would just ask that, if possible, y'all pick a place that is super T accessible as I'll be taking the orange line and then whatever connecting lines I need to take, but after I get off at whatever stop I'll have to get off at I'll be on foot

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last go-round of suggestions centered around South Station (Drink, then Barking Crab/Chow Chau City). I think this is a marvelous idea, if only because I want to go to Drink.

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, South Station is super close! dope

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey--late dinner is fine by me. my gf may join so for reservation purposes i will confirm that today. i will be working in the building next to south station and will be around for meeting/drinking after 5 or so. drink also has tasty bar snacks btw so any hunger should be easily spelled.

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dan went you a msg on FB.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking of FB, if we're not friends yet y'all should add me! i am the dude w/ the top post on the ILM wall [the one about Wilco]: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2200160366

i'll put a real picture of myself up later today so y'all will at least know what i look like beforehand, although it'll be me w/o glasses and i will be w/ glasses on Wednesday for sure -- mainly so I arrive intact

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post - CAD I'll meet you after work. Just sent Dan a msg on FB about this but I was thinking and Drink is pretty expensive. IIRC it's about 13-15 a drink. If we go there and then to either BC or CCC this could end up being a pretty expensive night. Seeing as I'm unemployed right now that might not be ideal for me or others. I'll still be there regardless but wanted to see what others thought about that. Am also fine with late res and with either BC or CCC.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

got it and replied

xp: wau slow

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey--yeah i am definitely sympathetic to that! ime, drink runs about 7-12 depending on the complexity of what you're getting. obv is tricky because they don't price up front. they also have beer and wine that is a bit more reasonable. i would also be up for just staying there for 1 or 2 and then going someplace a bit more reasonable.

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow i love saying a bit more reasonable

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think we should do 1 drink at Drink just for the "experience" (we are showing off for Ned, after all), then trek over to The Good Life. Maybe hit Drink at like 5:45, Good Life at 6:15, Chau Chow at 8?

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

That sounds perfect to me. :)

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

sounds perfect

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

get your wacky alcohol requests ready for drink!

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait - just to make sure - this is Wednesday, right? It be very typical of me to get the day wrong and show up tomorrow or something.

Also Sean and KSH - want to meet at South Station and walk over to Drink together?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

AFAIK it's Wednesday.

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

sure! ksh, when can you be at ss? i'll probably be done w/work right around 5 (or i can just tell ppl i need to leave at 5).

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay this all sounds...amusing.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

ned get out of here we are working on our plans to impress you!

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can be at South Station whenever! Not sure I've ever been to that station, though, so just let me know what time and where in the station you want to meet and I'll be there!

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok so when you get off the red line follow the signs for the commuter trains and buses till you come to the main part of the station. i will try to sit near the au bon pain and will be dressed business casual and probably looking at iphone or blackberry.

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

ooooh look at you with your business cas and TWO fancy phone ;p

I'll be there at 5 (which more likely means a little after 5 tbh knowing me) and you both know what I look like so yeah, see you then! Sean I will text you in the unlikely event that I'll be there any later than 5:15.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

errr phones

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

technically I leave the office at 5:30 but it's likely I can sneak out earlier; unless other arrangements are made I likely will have a NED in tow

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

so you're going to meet us at drink or should we hang at SS until you guys get there?

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

we'll meet you at Drink

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

sounds good!

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

So how many is that, potentially? 8? (ksh, E&R, CAD&lady, HD&wife, NED)

HI DERE, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

One more and we're set to be the Fellowship or the Nazgul, depending.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

We might actually have that one more, depending -- am checking with some folks in the area who might join in! Will try for an exact headcount soon.

Anyway, on the train now...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

one thing to note about CCC: dimsum is a mid-morning to mid-afternoon snack, probably will not be available in the evening and if it is, IME the freshness/quality will probably = ymmv.

HOWEVER, there is one dish i ordered off the dinner menu which was pork spare ribs. i think it's "pai kwat" (?).

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

ooh, i was close:

Cantonese: paai4 gwat1; literally "row of bones"

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

that reminds me, dan, if you were going to try to make a res, my gf will be coming for dinner (prob meeting us earlier than that but i figure you don't need a res at, like, good life)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've got a reservation for 8 in already; if necessary, I can change it.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok so when you get off the red line follow the signs for the commuter trains and buses till you come to the main part of the station. i will try to sit near the au bon pain and will be dressed business casual and probably looking at iphone or blackberry.

― call all destroyer, Monday, June 21, 2010 3:08 PM (Yesterday)

OK, thanks dude. I'll definitely be at the Au Bon Pain for 5 PM tomorrow. I'll be the tall dude with Chuck Taylors and a beard. If you don't mind, could either you or ENBB FB message me your cell number in case there's an unforeseen problem with getting there on time or meeting up or whatever? I'll give you mine too. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, that's totally cool.

in any case, I'm looking forward to meeting all of you tomorrow!

ksh, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll be the tall dude with Chuck Taylors and a beard

Huh.

jaymc, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

they're meeting in South Station, not Brooklyn

"holiday season u shrimps!" (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Had he said I'll be the clean shaven dude in a chambray button down and khakis we might be in for some confusion.

KSH will message u my cell. You never put a real pic up!

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

he did for like a day iirc

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean, WE'LL SEE TOMORROW

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

looking forward to drinks with Ned, ENBB, CAD and the Cloverfield monster

"holiday season u shrimps!" (HI DERE), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He had a link to some guy but I just went back and checked and said guy does not have beard and is probably someone famous I am just unaware of. VERY MYSTERIOUS.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol dan

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

KSH will message u my cell. You never put a real pic up!

― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:34 PM (4 hours ago)

will do so now!

looking forward to drinks with Ned, ENBB, CAD and the Cloverfield monster

― "holiday season u shrimps!" (HI DERE), Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:36 PM (4 hours ago)

looooooool!

ksh, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

the picture I had up before and will put up again after is just the lead singer of Interpol. I haven't regularly had a picture of myself as my profile picture for years \(O_O)/

ksh, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw I didn't mean to bully you into it or anything! Know who to look out for now so you can put Paul B. back up if you want.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't feel bullied into it at all! :-) kinda makes sense that ppl might want to know what I look like before we meet. anyway, I'll change it back sometime tomorrow or whatever. no biggie. looking forward to meeting you all!

ksh, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

god, what a belligerent ass i was on this thread all those years ago!

When we was in the shower, your buttcheeks was warm (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 02:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's all good, Eisbaer. Now post on my NYC FAP thread or something!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shasta - just wanted to let you know that Drink and CCC were both awesome. Thank you for the recs. Everyone seemed to enjoy both a lot!

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 24 June 2010 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

but but but not as much as the company. nice to meet you all (and see ned and dan again)

ampersand (remy bean), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Indeed! Great times had. Thanks again all, and thanks to Steve S for those recommendations.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was absolutely fantastic to meet everyone! you guys are great

ksh, Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

yall were ok

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 June 2010 22:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

(j/k, everyone old and new was awesome!)

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

you guys

this was fun

let us do it again

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok, what did you guys order at Drink and at CCC?

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

So at Drink we each had two. I asked for something refreshing, citrusy and floral. The first was a Bees Knees (gin, lemon juice, honey and lavender). It was incredible. The second, while good, was not as amazing but was also a citrus flavored gin drink. I don't remember the specifics. I'll let the others tell you what they had but I will say that CAD's second drink was probably the best cocktail I've ever tasted and I really hope he remembers what was in it.

At CCC we ordered a bunch of appetizer combo things and main dishes to share. I only remember the veggie fried rice and eggplant and garlic because I don't eat meat but they can fill you in on the rest. It was actually the best Chinese food I have ever had tbh. Most standard chinese places suck imo and this was a v pleasant surprise.

x-post - It was fun and we should def do it again and sooner rather than later. :D

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh and I don't think your friend was working. There was one woman tending bar but she def didn't look like Elijah Wood in LoTR.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

you guys

this was fun

let us do it again

― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:12 PM (Yesterday)

^ seconding this

ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 04:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

At Drink I asked for something light and lemony and I got the best Tom Collins I ever had.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 June 2010 05:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

my first cocktail at drink was a tequila/mezcal old fashioned with agave nectar, angostura aromatic and orange bitters, and a grapefruit twist. second drunk was good enough for me to ask how to make it:

1.25 oz. dark rum (old monk)
.75 oz. lime juice
.5 oz. sloe gin
.5 oz. apricot liqueur
.25 oz. cinnamon syrup

my gf's second drink was awesome too: tequila, lime, strawberry puree, black pepper

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2010 11:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have a brain like a sieve and I didn't actually eat lunch on Wednesday (!) so I don't remember what drinks I got aside from them both having gin in them. They were fucking tasty.

Then we went to The Good Life and I drank Sam Adams Summer Brew, ha. I was going to continue boozing at CCC but a) no one else was; b) it was Wednesday; c) the tiny part of my brain that wasn't leaping over the freefall precipice of "wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee drinking!" was the part that contains all of my sense and doesn't like looking like an alcoholic.

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

loooooool

ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 13:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

The water I had was pretty dope iirc — to "make" it, all you need to do is turn on the sink, and preferably refrigerate it for a bit if you want it cold. Also, the leftover (white and vegetarian fried) rice -- thanks for the leftovers, btw, all -- made a nice lunch yesterday.

ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

dan's first drink was a pegu club, don't know about his second

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2010 13:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

we all psyched each other out at ccc--i would have continued drinking if one other person did

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2010 13:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahahaha me too! You were all being so good that I was like well OK I'm not going to be the only one to look like a total lush right now. ha. Too funny.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

NOW WE KNOW

Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

next time we get together, i solemnly promise to Get Loaded

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

and I solemnly promise to drink an obscene amount of water while enthusiastically encouraging everyone else to Get As Loaded As You Want

ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I, the undersigned, do solemnly promise to quell my ulcerative pangs with extra strong intoxicants.

ampersand (remy bean), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

You damn drunks.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

just posting to fix the bookmark

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2010 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

glad we're all on the same page here ha

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

attn CAD

we gotta do Magoun's sometime

MOATY I'M HERE (HI DERE), Monday, 12 July 2010 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

YES! when's good for you? this week might already be booked but i imagine next week sometime would work.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 July 2010 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty much any night that isn't Tuesday or Thursday is good for me, generally speaking

MOATY I'M HERE (HI DERE), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool--i will get back at you but i think like next wednesday would be good.

call all destroyer, Monday, 12 July 2010 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is a bummer.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn, kinda saw this coming--last couple times i was in there the amount of new stock was shrinking big time.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

What a fine city:

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 July 2010 19:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 July 2010 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hate to say it but Weirdo Records has totally made Twisted Village irrelevant for me lately. Much better stock and selection, plus Angela who runs the place is awesome and has got one of the widest wells of outsider music knowledge you could ever hope for.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not that it was a competition, since Angela used to work at TV, but you'd figure with two experimental music stores in one metro area, only one was going to survive.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 16 July 2010 01:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah weirdo is impressive but i never see stuff i actually want there.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 July 2010 04:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

ayo CAD

is Wednesday still good for you? if so LET'S DO THIS

btw this is like an open invitation to anyone who can get to Magoun Square to come a-drinkin', otherwise it would have been done via email

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 01:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

gah, can i postpone a week? found out yesterday there's going to be a post-work reception thing i need to go to--i know it's wednesday but not sure when/where/how long yet.

next mon or wed should both be good, so whatever's better for you. sorry!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 11:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

no problem, either should be good afaik

HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can do next week, either M or W

ampersand (remy bean), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Me too!

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

so W looks it's the day; I just had a work thing pop up for M

he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Thursday, 22 July 2010 13:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

W it is!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 July 2010 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'll get my spats out of the mothballs

ampersand (remy bean), Thursday, 22 July 2010 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

tonight! what time are folks thinking about getting there?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 13:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't get home until 6/6:30, so probably around 7...?

measuring of the waist (HI DERE), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 13:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok i will be shooting for the 7-7:30 range

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 13:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I'm heading up to Boston on Monday for a work conference that's on Tuesday and Wednesday all day and Thursday morning and then I head home. May have to schmooz with work people in the evening though I'd rather see Iggy Pop at HOB on Tuesday night (probably sold out) or go to Chow Chau City or other restaurant places you folks have mentioned.

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 August 2010 02:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw man, I'm likely to be stuck in a swamp of post-vacation work this week. Boo!

Def can't do Iggy but mmmmaybe dinner on Wed?

Trouble-Making Foods (HI DERE), Monday, 30 August 2010 12:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe, would like to meet you folks but I might be obligated to hang with work folks. Will let you know, thanks.

Any North End Italian recommendations?

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 August 2010 12:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyone ever go to those Monday night Beat Research dj nights (in Cambridge somewhere I think? Wayne Marshall of wayneadwax.com is sometimes involved)...It's Global beat stuff.

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 August 2010 12:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

never been to that but it appears to be at the enormous room which is a fun bar

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 August 2010 13:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah, yr here today? welcome, curmudgeon!

markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

No i-phone or blackberry or such, and intermittent internet access, but I'm here along with other fellow govt. workers at the Boston Park Plaza on Arlington, near the commons.

curmudgeon, Monday, 30 August 2010 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh damn that's where I work, I could have actually met up with you

oops

Squirrel! (HI DERE), Monday, 30 August 2010 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey all, imma move into a new place in watertown on tuesday –– kickass dining room, sunroom, backyard, and study. should we do a house-warming some weekend soon? who'd be down?

SYNTAX ERROR (remy bean), Monday, 30 August 2010 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post

It's looking like I'm gonna have to just be with work people

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 11:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

well i hope they're tolerable :)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 11:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

beat research is a'ight. i was a regular when i lived in boston.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't make it. Ate in the North End Monday, and just stayed near the hotel tonight, wandering around with my tolerable work colleagues!

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 00:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

guys--been thinking we need to get the band back together, so to speak.

anyone want to get together soon?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

me and E were talking about how we should go back to tavern at the end of the world. she will hate me for suggesting this prob but we could maybe do a sunday football fap?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost to cad

I've been thinking of suggesting the same thing

markers, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

wish i could make a fap, impossible with a two yr old and a wife who travels for business all the fucking time....

chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw dude, we will make fingerbang jokes in your honor

I'd be totally down for football FAP as long as it isn't Oct 10 or Oct 17, since I have music commitments those days.

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

well i could do this sunday

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

this sunday no good for us sadly

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Later October?

markers, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

later october then!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

you should actually fingerbang someone instead.

chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

done and done

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, oct 24 would be fine for us i think. pats vs san diego is the 4pm game. i know dan would be excited to watch the pats with us.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

vikings are the sunday night game on the 24th!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i might be down for meeting some ilx folks

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, you should come!

markers, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

THATS WHAT SHE SAID!

chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

holy shit this came around fast. are people still interested in this for sunday?

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I need to double-check that I'm free but my gut reaction is YES

MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm still down

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think that is good enough for a quorum. any objections/alternatives to tavern at the end of the world?

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm up for something early-ish... anybody else coming from watertown area?

i', Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think tavern would be fun. pats game is at 4 iirc.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait, who is "i'"?

master of retardment (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

We are all i

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

in diminishing order of recognizability

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's like, fucking hobo-man parked in corner drinking kryptonite listerine for a "superdrunk" good time.

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

My guess was Remy! Now I'm really stumped.

master of retardment (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i is me. i don't know how i posted like that

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

o i was posting from inside the admin doohickey by aksidinct

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha ok. I was all confused.

master of retardment (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

final roll call? i am thinking we will get there about 3.30ish tomorrow and bag a table. we may have a bonus ilxor with us.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

c u there

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'll be there, i think. is there parking?

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah plenty

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, if there's parking I'll be there -- Google Maps says it's only a 20 minute drive for me, which is nothing

markers, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

markers you're going to the show tonight right? keep a lookout for me!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes! I will be there. I will look for you

markers, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

We will be there, woot

O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

my ms. might join us after work, too

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can I attend in spirit? If not with spirits.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

awwwww of course!

master of retardment (ENBB), Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Remy there is on street parking but the bar has an actual parking lot behind it too!

master of retardment (ENBB), Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's good news -- if I don't show up it's not because I didn't want to, it's because I couldn't find parking

markers, Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think i'll be a little early – anybody else make 2:30-3:00?

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Sunday, 24 October 2010 12:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

All I know is that Mass. drivers turn Maine roads terrible when they come up for vacations here. Suddenly drivers become more aggressive and ride on your bumper, STOP THAT!

Just breaking it in, feels comfy (MintIce), Sunday, 24 October 2010 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok bostonians def dont watch this shit, warning u

ice cr?m, Sunday, 24 October 2010 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

cmon who hasn't gotten chased out of a bar by fsu dudes

call all destroyer, Sunday, 24 October 2010 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lots of talk today about Billy Ruane's passing -- anyone here ever encounter him?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have never before heard of this guy. Then again, the concerts I am usually at are choral concerts so why would I have?

The majestic sounds of Skin Up (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was about to say, little hard to imagine him doing all those antics for Tanglewood...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

ive heard of him, never really checked out anything.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

This blog post from G. Cosloy of Matador (with Steve Albini comment) gives a good summary:

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/remembering-the-human-tornado-that-was-billy-ruane

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

i realized i have met him once or twice at the middle east years ago. he was a maniac and bought me a budweiser over a conversation about Mark Sandman.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Just wanted to say, in case anyone I haven't thought of to email is interested, that we're getting together tomorrow night (Sat the 4th) somewhere in Central Square, Cambridge still TBD. Will post the details later today once we've figured out where.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

What's the name of the fake Irish bar attached to Hotel @ MIT? If Miracle of Science it too crowded we could likely guarantee ourselves a table there.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmmmmmm - The Asgard?

I think that's a great idea. Should we try to meet at Miracle of Science though?

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

works for me

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

asgard is huge and will definitely accommodate us--my word of warning is that there is a really annoying cover band that plays there starting between 9 and 10 on saturdays.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

so yeah, let's try miracle of science first

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

what's up with THE ENORMOUS ROOM

is it, like, enormous

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think so. I think it's sorta like a club? I have no idea but I think it's actually tiny and the name is a hilarious joke.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's a pretty average sized room actually. music is really loud so it's hard to talk. a pretty good dance party usually starts after midnight. hard to get into.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like the miracle of science/asgard plan and we can deal with the cover band if need be. If it's anything like the one I heard a couple weeks ago while waiting in Fanueil Hall - we'll get lucky and they'll cover both lil' john and lady gaga and it will be awesome.

So Miracle of Science - what time?

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

whenever works for yall

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would 8:30 - 9 work?

My number is 867.5309 if you need to get in touch for any reason that night.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

uhhhhh should I not have posted my number? *think first, post 2nd* dammit

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

J & I have to sing Sunday so we likely will not be out super super late (or at least if she is there she will act as our collective conscience and keep me from going "hey, let's check All Asia to see if they're doing a dance party!")

I know the original proposed meet-up time was around 9, but we'll have more luck grabbing a table at Miracle if someone is there early. Maybe we'll try to swing by between 8/8:30 to stake out territory...?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

8:00 ish is totally fine. Will get there around then too.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, you guys always have to sing. :(

;p

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's a bummer for partying, but otoh $$

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

singing for money! who woulda thought.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

very true although until just now I thought it was something you did just for the hell of it

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm your private singer
A singer for money

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

(tbf, up until 2004 it WAS mostly a hobby/volunteer thing)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Must be pretty sweet to get paid for something you love

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, yes it is

The main reason I haven't tried to make it a main vocation (besides of course it being WAY WAY WAY WAY easier to make money in software) is because I'm afraid putting myself on the entire audition grind would kill my love of it. Although I do need to pick the voice lessons back up.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I get that. I used to play the violin quite well and I stopped all together years ago because I practiced so much that I started to get burnt out and began to hate it.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw dude! You should start again IMO why because that is awesome

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

also then you could play the violin part in one of the soprano/baritone duets in Bach's cantata 140, which J and I sing

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

had a sweet little gig doin sinatra type covers in a club once, til that fucker buble 'happened'. Glabalisation sux

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

ilx band ftw imo

Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

ilx chamber music ensemble

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL! I really should though. My Dad actually recently had my violin, which had been busted for a looong time, repaired and revamped so it's now in working order. Maybe I'll pick it up when I'm down for Christmas.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

(lol @ forks edit of my #)

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

would like to meet ya'll but i'm sick w/ a cold right now. if it goes away by tomorrow i'll try to stop by!

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

would love to come, but can't. maybe next time. i've met Dan before but not the rest of you.

I've got a bush like a 50 year old Serbian (chrisv2010), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aww too bad but like you said, maybe next time. Are you in Worcester? Why do I think that? IF so we should have a road trip FAP and go to Ralph's Diner. CP - hopefully we'll see you if you feel better.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am outside of Worcester. road trip fap my choice would be...http://armsbyabbey.com/

I've got a bush like a 50 year old Serbian (chrisv2010), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh that place looks nice. I only know Ralph's because a friend works there. Anyway, hope you can make it another time.

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't been to Ralphs in years.

I've got a bush like a 50 year old Serbian (chrisv2010), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

google maps says that miracle of science is a six minute walk from the central square stop. does that sound about right?

markers, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, basically you will come out near the corner of Mass Ave and Prospect; walk down Mass Ave towards Boston (if you are on Mass Ave facing the Starbucks, turn to your right) and it will be about 5-6 blocks down on your left

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's really close. I only picked places that were in walking distance from a T stop because I knew you were coming in on the train. =)

ENBB, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks so much guys <3

markers, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

markers, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://gawker.com/5736031/cat-summoned-for-jury-duty

markers, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently also happened in boston in 1985: http://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/01/us/boston-excuses-a-cat-from-sitting-on-jury.html

markers, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 00:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

when are people going to come to worcester for a travel fap.

Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

When we're not expecting upwards of 6-10 inches of snow?! ;p

Do you ever come down here? Feel like maybe we have more going out options than Worcester?

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

i could be persuaded to come to Boston...Worcester has a fantastic new scene....

yeah just what we need is more fucking snow.

Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

not shoveling tomorrow

markers, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

me neither, already called my plow guy. markers when i come to a fap we can discuss tapes n tapes....hahaha.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

<3

markers, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

tapes n tapes are here next week iirc

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I better have a snow day at work tomorrow or at least a delayed opening. I'm sick and can't stay home so that would work out v v nicely tbh.

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost oh man, you're not kidding

markers, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i have a big day of Call of Duty planned tomorrow...i feel like I am twelve.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

24 years later if it snows i'll be in my pj's, by the fire, playing video games...just like then

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha - awesome

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

they have 1 hr 15 mins to cancel my class tonight

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

i may even take a few minutes to crank one off too, just like then

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn i have an interview tomorrow morning way out in the burbs

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol sean I have my dingers crossed for you

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

DINGERS!

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

ew

oops

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!

‎\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, yes, and your sick and all. free pass.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i'm not gonna follow up on "dingers" i am just going to thank u for good vibes

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yesterday i was twelve. YAY.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

happy birthday!

markers, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha..i got a new tapes n tapes cd for my birthday.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

ENBB, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm stuck inside :(

markers, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is starting to remind me of that one year when i was a kid and we had so many snow days that we ended up having school into july from all the make-up days

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Let's do this.

March? How about a Saturday - 5th, 12th, 19th? Could do a Friday too if that works better for ppl but I am old and tire easily so prefer Sat.

HEY DAN P - when are you NOT singing? I want to try to find a night when you can come and not have to leave early! :)

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I could probably do the 5th or 12th...i'd prefer a somewhat earlier time since i have a bit of a drive...possibly like a mid-afternoon special.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

and that way i could take the T in and not have to drive!

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

GOOD PLAN

Oh wait - I just realized that I can't do the 5th because I am going to be in Worcester.

12th???

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

what are you doing in worcester on the 5th!

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Getting a new tattoo. I'm going with a friend who goes to a certain guy there who she really likes.

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha. who? thats my hometown...in case you forgot.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

I sing in a church choir, so really the answer to "when are you NOT singing on the following Sunday" is, like... mid-May?

that said, a mid-afternoon special could work very very well on the 12th

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

travel fap on the 5th after e gets inked.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post His name is lol Morg@n Freem@n at 0ut of the D@rk W0rld Tattoos?

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post Nice try! you know you want to come to Boston.

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, that place....sorry. not a fan. good luck ;)

totally want to come out to boston, i miss it there.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

everybody has their "guy"...to each his own.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh no, really?? :( webmail me with why you don't like it. She has like 9 things done by him which are all really good but now I'm worried. That said what I'm getting is really simple and tiny and would be pretty hard to fuck up. I think.

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

ANYWAY

Afternoon of March 12th!!!!

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

email sent.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, the 12th. let me clear my calendar.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i bet my wife bitches.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I should double-check my singing schedule; I know I've got a concert coming up that month but I don't know when it is

DJP, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

LET'S DO THIS

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

said on every cop show ever.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol worcester

am0n, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK I am so not getting anything done there anymore. Not because of that video - haven't watched it yet - but because M0rg@n Freem@n a lot better at acting than tattooing. I will accompany friend but will stick to the guy i know.

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

holy crap that video! :/

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i had the volume turned down on it, this was on the news a few nights ago. What did the kid do? Worcester is filled with meat heads and wanna be jersey shore types.

Good idea.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aside from Ralph's the only bar I've ever been at in Worcester was a gay club so I'm pretty sure the clientele wasn't v representative of Worcester ppl on the whole.

ENBB, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

nope not at all. its like boston's new jersey out here. granted i am not in worcester, but right outside of it...but i've dealt with worcester shitheads my entire life. thats why i don't go out anymore and if i do its to three places.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

id like to make it up to one of these from ct and can maybe do the 12th; early-ish would be cool so i can cut myself off at some pt & get outta town

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yay! Def try to come if you can. It would be great to meet you. :)

Oh Markers is in too.

ENBB, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah dude come on up!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok! we'll see, would be good 2 meet yall

johnny crunch, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

well my wife didn't bitch...im in.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

:)

Dan pls to update us regarding your availability at your earliest convenience.

Also - REMY!!!

ENBB, Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha ok so here is the deal:

I am free on the 12th, BUT I have a long day of singing the next day, so I kind of can't go hard like I want to

goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

:)

Next time though we're planning it so that you don't have to worry about next day commitments, deal?

OK so roll call?

I'm mainly wondering about the out of town ppl because if you all are still planning on coming it'll make sense for us to meet somewhere nearest the train station. Or are you driving?

Anyway, who's in?

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 13:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

HOLLA

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

im out unfortunately. Fucking in-laws coming.

Hey Erica, how was the trip to Worcester.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

awwwww

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw, that sucks. next time!

Worcester was good! We had lunch at a Thai place in White City. Sorta took a gamble and did end up getting the tattoo done because I really wanted it and it was such a simple thing I figured it would be hard to fuck up. Thankfully it turned out really well. :)

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can still come!
yea driving so obv wont drink that much. maybe somewhere where parking isnt too killer

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

:D

Parking. OK we will take that into consideration. Markers will prob drive too.

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah you guys seem to do this on a semi-regular basis anyways...plus if the next time is in the spring than we can drink outside! my favorite.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

very true - it's p much the best

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey i just realized this will be the second time that CAD, JC and I will be in the same room only this time we'll know it!

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe we can book japandroids for the day

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

w love to kiw them tbh - so cute!

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah they seem like bros

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

tell me some good outdoor drinking places in boston, since there were zero when i lived there.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmmmm

tbh there aren't that many! First that comes to mind is Charlies Kitchen in Harvard Square which put in a huge beer garden a couple years ago. I haven't actually been there tho because I used to work there and it sort of weirds me out now. Hmmmm where else?

ENBB, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

most places with outdoor seating make you eat food due to stupid zoning laws, so I don't think anyplace in the municipality of Boston has this unless it's like in a fully-enclosed area away from the street

goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah see out here we have a few beer gardens. the dive comes to mind as one of the best.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

and also my back yard...which a few years ago a buddy and I made a corner of my yard into a beer garden complete with lights. last year I added some polk audio outdoor speakers...its about as close to heaven as i can get. all i need now is a recliner.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK so what time were you all thinking?

Also, what about Tavern at the End of the World? The place we went to watch the game that time? It's cute and has its own parking lot and should be easy for everyone to get to provided there aren't any parades in Somerville that day.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

that would work for me. someone could even pick markers up in sullivan square if he wanted to t it. he is still coming right?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yep, think so. He is "taking a break from ILX" so asked me to msg him on FB. I'll do that once we agree on a place. I have to pass Sullivan Square on the way there so am more than happy to pick him up. He might drive tho - he did last time.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes, i wish my inlaws would stay home.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

give me a time, I will drop by

goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

guys i hate boston

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

i know somerville decently, or at least did ~5 yrs ago, so im cool w/ that

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

guys i hate boston

lol you've read my previous posts on this thread, right

goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

When I first moved here I hated Boston too but that has changed.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Johnny C: http://tavernattheendoftheworld.com/?page_id=2

It's technically in Charlestown but really close to Somerville. Should be pretty easy to get to. Address on the website.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

What time works for you guys? I can do whenever.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love boston and loved it even more when I spent 7 years there. Miss it. Well mainly I miss being able to walk out my front door into a bar.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, I just read through some of the first part of this thread. People really hate Boston! I got all defensive and was going to post a big thing about why I don't hate it anymore and why a lot of the stuff said here is wrong but I don't have the energy. It's OK Boston, I still love you.

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

so many butthurt ppl up there

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i know

ENBB, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

well i'll be in town april 23rd for the mogwai show at paradise if anyone wants to meet up before hand.

The Scenario (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Foreplay / Long Time" is Classic.

pearsonic, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 22:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Right so what time?

JC and DP you're the ones coming from far away/w commitments the following day - would 4pm be OK?

ENBB, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

fine with me

I just realized I will likely have to pace/lightweight it because I'm not just singing, I'm singing in a solo quartet (oops) so maybe you all have been saved from Jaegerbombs

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool by me. whatever time yall decide ill prob get there a lil later tho it all depends what time i leave ct

johnny crunch, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah 4 is good

call all destroyer, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol dan that's a relief tbh

ENBB, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am pleased to be able to confirm my participation in said event at said hour on said day at said location.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have fun fuckos!

The Scenario (chrisv2010), Friday, 11 March 2011 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey - Johnny C - just sent you webmail w/ my phone # in case you need it and a question! :)

ENBB, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

wrote u back ;)

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't get it :(

ENBB, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was afraid of that, will attempt again~

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

got some brutal captchas, think it went now

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I did too. I had to try like three times. Got it this time. See you tomorrow!

Markers def in btw.

Excited! :)

ENBB, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i will stop by this! assuming i do not get too EXTREME at the extreme beer fest beforehand

Lt. Van Ice Cage (govern yourself accordingly), Saturday, 12 March 2011 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool :)

ENBB, Saturday, 12 March 2011 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guys this was fun. Also, v cool to meet JC and GYA.

ENBB, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^ yes

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Monday, 14 March 2011 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes! couple of v. nice dudes!

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

no jaeger shots.....this time!

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

when everyone was introducing themselves, and then giving their board display name, I kept having flashbacks to that SNL key party skit

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Monday, 14 March 2011 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg that was great

so awkward and uncomfortable but, I mean, unless we resort to name tags it was p necessary

ENBB, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ key party

i had fun too, good times

johnny crunch, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

this was really fun! somehow i had never been to that bar ever, despite having worked like three blocks away at one point

Suicide Demo for Kemba Walker (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 14 March 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

hey yall - im going to the toro y moi show tomorrow night, any of you guys free & want to grab a drink before? maybe around 9. i completely understand tho if spending part of your sat nite in allston/brighton does not sound entirely appealing

johnny crunch, Friday, 8 April 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey - aw, man I have plans tomorrow night in Sommerville but would otherwise. Hope the show and your night are good tho!

ENBB, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'll be in boston tonite tbrr

markers, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

what are u doing?

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

(and btw jc, i have a bday dinner in the south end tomorrow night so i won't be able to make it--but enjoy the show!)

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

at least to start, meeting at diesel cafe and talking about a book

markers, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw, I want to go but I am so wiped out from this work week that I suspect I'm going to be passed out asleep all weekend

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

are you still working ridic hours?

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah pretty much

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I might hit 70 hours this week?

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

:(

ENBB, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

jeeeez

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

we should get together soon tho

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, agreed

ENBB, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

jc, where are you thinking of going pre-show? If I'm not asleep I'll swing by (also are you solo?)

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

hah yo dont sweat it, ill just get there a little later and just see the show. just thought id throw it out there. yah im ridin solo

johnny crunch, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

we should get together soon tho

― call all destroyer, Friday, April 8, 2011 2:39 PM

totally. and i'll even try not to get in the wrong lane when i'm five minutes away from the destination and end up on a street i don't know and somehow end up minutes away from my grandmother's house

markers, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was genuinely worried about you! I kept being like, should I call him? oh I don't have his number. I hope he's OK! etc.

ENBB, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

eeek. sorry. i do have your number and should probably get sms so i can more easily let people know i'm heading into the heart of a city i don't know how to navigate through. at some point i just look at signs and start following them if they make sense and if i'm confused i just start taking random turns. i should probably get an iphone

once i was coming home from someone's house at like 1:30 am (this would've been going 93 N) and at some point they were all, you need to get off the highway now, and they redirected traffic into the city and that was pretty fun

markers, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh look tall buildings, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

markers, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wd go out soon – but i need a week or so warning to prepare

they call him (remy bean), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah me too. now that the weather is getting nicer, outside drinking.

Zero pumps, massive boner (thebingo), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

BEER GARDEN AT CHARLIE'S KITCHEN IN HARVARD SQUARE

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg yesssss

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay lol, I have been reminded by my wife who is in another state that I have dinner plans tonight

I think maybe I should start writing things in my calendar

fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Saturday, 9 April 2011 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

so are you ready for TORNADOS?

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah no shet - in Maine too!

Latham Green, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

it looks apocalyptically green outside

remy bean, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

glad it's cooler out tbrr

markers, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

It looks evil outside right now.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

dang homies

tacoby bellsbury (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

really weird drive home--lightning strikes extremely visible from westboro to newton, but it never really rained hard.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

waiting for some more of this to pass . . . then slurpee time . . .

markers, Thursday, 2 June 2011 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just came back from swim practice: the water in the pool shook at one of the booms of thunder

remy bean, Thursday, 2 June 2011 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

springfield got fucked up

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 June 2011 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i was in enfield ct this afternoon and the sky was some straight up ghostbusters shit

unique housing opportunity (swanbed.gif) (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 2 June 2011 01:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

got my slurpee -- basically wasn't raining out anymore. things have definitely calmed down over here

markers, Thursday, 2 June 2011 02:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh man, people died? that's nuts. springfield did really get fucked up. damn.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 2 June 2011 02:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Brimfield and Monson apparently got the worst of it

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 June 2011 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ugh

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

atornadu in mass?? why!

Latham Green, Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

anybody up for socializing next week/weekend? i'm on vacation and bored.

remy bean, Sunday, 12 June 2011 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

i would be down 4 boston fap tbh -- the last one i didn't get lost going to was in january

markers, Sunday, 12 June 2011 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i'm around!

call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 June 2011 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I will be smoking meat. No pun intended

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Sunday, 12 June 2011 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

~bump~

markers, Monday, 13 June 2011 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sounds good!

Remy (and others) would Friday or Sat nights work and if so, which would be better?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

as long as it's not next saturday i'm good

markers, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought he meant like this upcoming weekend so I was talking about the 17th/18th?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

17th/18th would be good for me afaik

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh wait, 18th is bad

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

CANCEL EVERYTHING

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

rip

markers, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

friday is bad for me tbh

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm okay with anything, really, but it's gotta be earlyish – i turn into a pumpkin at 10:30ish. can we do something cambridge-ish? I'm in Watertown, and anything further makes me grouchy. 17th in the after-work hours?

remy bean, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

why did i suffix -ish to three separate words in the post above? what's my ish?

remy bean, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

We totally suck at this. Tomorrow still fine but it sounds like it might not be for many others?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 11:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

wd next week work better? i cd do that too.

remy bean, Thursday, 16 June 2011 11:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

bruins riots?

am0n, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bruins riots in Vancouver!

anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

yo bruins parade saturday...BROOOOOOOOONS FAP.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

so.... are we doing tomorrow or not? If yes, I recommend CHARLEY'S KITCHEN specifically the beer garden

I need to know so I can run out and pick up some MiO packets

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait are you putting mio...in beer

lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Weisse

how we roll *gang sign, pose*

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

dan you don't think the beer garden will be ridiculously packed on a friday evening?

what's the weather supposed to be like?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

showers

:(

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

wish i could come.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

well when can you?!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

aw

I'm sure it would be packed, but my logic was that J could get there early since she's adjacent to the Square and stake out territory for us

if it's gonna rain, fuck it

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

altho maybe we can inspire the bartender at Russell House by MiOing up their craft brews

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

OK I say we either do it tomorrow night or like next Tuesday which is supposed to be nice out and a mid-week after work thing could be fun. Also then maybe CAD could come? D

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Stop having fun without me over there I sez. (Was it only a year ago we were all meeting up for drinks and good Chinese food...)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah! God it was hot as balls out that night.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

That must have been almost exactly a year ago because iirc it was during the World Cup which should have been like end of June.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

i could come next tues but pls don't wait just on my account!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

its pretty tough for me, typically saturday afternoons are best for me.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah! God it was hot as balls out that night.

Made the drinks even better. A couple of days later I was heading back to NYC on the train and we got stopped somewhere in Connecticut thanks to a minitornado...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guys we could even go buck wild and meet up tomorrow evening and again one night next week. I realize this is completely insane but take a couple deep breathes and marinate on the possibility.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

DARING

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guys we could even go buck wild and meet up tomorrow evening and again one night next week. I realize this is completely insane but take a couple deep breathes and marinate on the possibility.

― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:02 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

was going to say but i didn't want to rock the boat

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

let's do that. tomorrow early evening it is, at charley's kitchen

remy bean, Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i will be in town on saturday though.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

NOW HE TELLS US

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah Charley's tomorrow. Should be there by 6 the latest but will text Dan if any transport probs happen.

:)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

yay

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

well i had to wait until the bruins won.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was there last week & i think i can figure out how to get there again!

so tomorrow, 6 PM?

(love y'all for picking harvard square btw)

markers, Thursday, 16 June 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yep :)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

beer garden looking grim ;_;

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah - I was thinking that myself

so this means two things

1) Are we still gonna meet if the weather is awful?

2) Do we want to pick somewhere else or just do Charley's but inside?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I say stay at Charley's, IMO; maybe we'll get lucky and it will clear up

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sounds good to me. :)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guys. I've been sick for the past couple days and thought I was getting better but I've started feeling really really crappy the last couple hours and I think I'd be kidding myself if I think I'm going to be up for anything other than napping come 5:00 pm so I think we're out for tonight. Please don't be mad at me. I was really looking forward to it but I've started to really go downhill the last couple hours. :( I really want to hang out soon though so hopefully we can, in fact, do something again next week? Maybe?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 17 June 2011 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

hope you feel better, E :)

maybe next week, y'all!

markers, Friday, 17 June 2011 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks. I'm really sorry. I'm just fading quickly and the couch is looking more and more appealing by the minute.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 17 June 2011 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wait - M, the rest of you should still do it tonight if you want! I don't want it to seem like i meant it's off just because I'm out or whatever.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 17 June 2011 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

is this happening or no? I need to flag down my lovely wife if not

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

my mom was going to drive me to the station, and i told her she didn't have to now a while ago, etc., etc. -- i'm just going to wait until next week's meetup

markers, Friday, 17 June 2011 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay

we will regroup next week

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Friday, 17 June 2011 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think that will be perfect

markers, Friday, 17 June 2011 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Could be in next week if it's saturday

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Friday, 17 June 2011 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

saturday's the day i can't do tbh ;_;

markers, Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

ayo y'all -- tomorrow nite?

markers, Monday, 20 June 2011 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't do tuesday, friday, saturday or sunday –– school starts up again, and i've got weekend classes.

remy bean, Monday, 20 June 2011 12:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man I've been sick as a dog all weekend and still feel like crap so tomorrow being out is probably for the best.

How about this Thursday same time, same place? I should be better by then and promise not to cancel. :)

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Monday, 20 June 2011 13:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm always up for thursday drinkin'

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2011 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

cant do thursday. one of these days

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Monday, 20 June 2011 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey homies i'm in for thursday

markers, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

So we found Whitey Bulger out here. You guys want him back?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 June 2011 04:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha okay I'm going to have to post this bit from Wikipedia before it goes away:

Capture

On June 22 2011 they caught the mother-fucker. FUCK YEAH!!!!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 June 2011 05:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

we meeting up later today y'all?

markers, Thursday, 23 June 2011 07:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

whitey bulger, eat shit!

remy bean, Thursday, 23 June 2011 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't meet up, sadly.

BO (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

grrr stupid intersting 77 thread messing me up

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I assumed it was a no go since nobody responded. We suck at this!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

o i was kind of assuming we were doing it

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

hah, ok well another time then.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

What the

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Eh, it's Fall River, they have dead bodies all over the place

DJP, Thursday, 30 June 2011 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Might explain why the kid wasn't bothered.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

fall river could be a rad place but it's just not

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 June 2011 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

my town atm

ⓢⓤⓟⓘⓕⓨⓞⓤ©ⓐⓝⓡⓔⓐⓓⓣⓗⓘⓢ (markers), Monday, 4 July 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's the third iirc

ⓢⓤⓟⓘⓕⓨⓞⓤ©ⓐⓝⓡⓔⓐⓓⓣⓗⓘⓢ (markers), Monday, 4 July 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

anyone thinking about going to the Walt Mink show at TT the Bear's tomorrow

right now I am about 90% sure I'm going, assuming there are still tickets (lol "Walt Mink SOLD OUT!!!!!")

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Walt mink is still around ? Holy shit

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a reunion tour, I don't know if it's the original lineup or the lead singer w/ new ppl

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Blast from my past. Wow. Gonna have to look for bareback ride on spotify

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I already looked; they have Colossus...

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Think I still have the cd. It's one of the ones I take over and over again to Newbury comics to sell and it always ends up in my return to me pile

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

YO COME TO TT'S

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

last time i was there was in 2007 4 marine stern iirc

http://bit.ly/n1ntjo (markers), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm sorry I missed this thread! I flew to Boston for that show! Partly because I've never been to Boston and a friend has been inviting me to visit for years, and partly because I couldn't pass up the chance to see them one more time. They did two shows in Minneapolis in 2005, which Chris Butler filmed for a documentary (still working on it). I thought that would be my last chance to hear them, but bassist Candice, who got her Ph.D. in public health at Harvard and is a professor at Boston U, just wanted to rock. So John came from L.A., they got together with their third and last drummer Zach, had two long rehearsals, and freakin' blew the roof off T.T. the Bears. Great to hear some old favorites that brought me back to the basement shows they played when we were at Macalester. I was tempted to go to Brooklyn for their second show, but wanted to catch up with friends and explore Boston (loved it). So just two shows for fun, but they had a blast and maybe they'll do it again and not wait six years before next time.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

x-post

Last time I was there was probably 2007 too - for the Thermals, I think. I like TTs a lot though. They have a dance thing on Friday night (maybe Sat idk) that I want to check out but I'm pretty sure everyone there will be like 12 and annoying so I haven't yet.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I enjoyed the eats too. Middle East before the TT show, Island Hopper (Malaysian), Redbone's (BBQ), a lobster roll at James Hook, and Legal Seafood.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 1 August 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I ate at the mid east recently and it was surprisingly good!

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

aw dude, wish I'd known you were there, I would have said hi (I was the black guy) (lol)

I got to talk to all three of them and was totally effusive and gushy. They are better musicians than half the pro classical ppl I know.

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:46 (1 year ago)